IRC log for #wowace on 20091220

00:11.15Repo10broker_repa: 03ansiik * r27 Broker_Repa.lua: several fixes
00:15.39Repo10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r64 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added tag 2.0.11 for changeset a8914ccaa8e5
00:15.42Repo-- fixed problem with library dependency
00:29.16Repo10bazooka: 03mitch0 07bar-to-bar-attach * r118 / (2 files in 2 directories):
00:29.18Repodrycode implementation of proper multi-top/bottom bar setups
00:30.48SilowyiI need a very light weight unit frame, not raid frames, I've switched to using grid
00:31.08Silowyipref just player/target/focus/pet (and target of each)
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00:40.02Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r127 Core.lua: Fix adding Unknowns with no UID
00:44.34Repo10fu-bar_quests-fu: 03Kemayo * r422 Blizz/Blizz.lua: QuestInfoObjectivesText again.
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00:49.09nudelkuchenhi
00:49.14nudelkuchencan somebody help me?
00:49.39nudelkuchenwith my first smal addon
00:49.49nudelkucheni dont know why it doesnt work
00:51.55Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2772 Docs/CHANGES.txt: Updated the changelog
00:55.57nudelkuchenplease
00:58.58haste~asktoask
00:59.02purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
01:00.23nudelkuchenok
01:00.24Repo10handy-notes_charon: 03zarevak * r25 / (3 files in 2 directories): fix for context menu
01:00.26Repoproper Localization support
01:00.38nudelkuchenMyAddon = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("MyAddon", "AceEvent-3.0")
01:00.38nudelkuchenMyAddon:RegisterEvent("ZONE_CHANGED")
01:00.38nudelkuchenfunction MyAddon:ZONE_CHANGED()
01:00.38nudelkuchen<PROTECTED>
01:00.39nudelkuchenend
01:00.44nudelkuchenisnt working and i dont know why
01:01.00nudelkuchenthe other files are fine.
01:01.20nudelkuchenthe addon is also shown in the addons list
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01:09.08Wobinnudelkuchen, add in a print("Shutupwomanandgetonmyhorse") to your ZONE_CHANGED function
01:10.15yoshimoamazing
01:12.06Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2773 / (2 files in 2 directories): Updated the localization doc page.
01:13.04BalreignMyAddon:OnEnable()
01:13.20Balreign<PROTECTED>
01:15.00nudelkuchentesting it
01:15.50Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r82 MorgBid2.lua: MorgBid2
01:15.52Repo-changed autoclose to close on loot message
01:15.53Repo-tweaked TakeBid updating methods to show BID once a bid placed
01:17.24nudelkuchenisnt working :(
01:17.44Wobinthen your event isn't being triggered
01:18.03Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r154 / (3 files in 2 directories): MorgDKP2
01:18.05Repo-added horde gunship battle yell
01:18.06Repo-fix disenchant button not updating lootframe
01:18.08Repo-slight change to comms for morgbid2 changes
01:18.10nudelkuchenMyAddon = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("MyAddon", "AceEvent-3.0")
01:18.11nudelkuchenMyAddon:OnEnable()
01:18.11nudelkuchenself:RegisterEvent("ZONE_CHANGED")
01:18.11nudelkuchenfunction MyAddon:ZONE_CHANGED()
01:18.11nudelkuchen<PROTECTED>
01:18.11nudelkuchenend
01:18.13nudelkuchenlike this or?
01:18.31Wobinnudelkuchen, please use pastebin or pastey or the like to post code
01:18.37nudelkuchenok
01:18.48Balreignnudelkuchen, by the way this event is only triggered if ZONE_CHANGED_INDOORS or ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA does not fire.
01:19.39nudelkuchenhm then i will choose a different event
01:19.43Repo10handy-notes_charon: 03zarevak * r26 addon.lua: cleanup of all Debug left overs in last commit
01:20.47silentium~seen zeksie
01:20.59purlzeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust23.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 4d 1h 52m 32s ago, saying: '(enjoy)'.
01:22.06nudelkucheni use CHAT_MSG_WHISPER and whisper myself to test
01:22.15silentium~ugt
01:22.16purlwell, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
01:22.38silentiumthanks, purl
01:23.08nudelkuchenisnt working :(
01:23.11nudelkuchenarr
01:24.39Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2477 / (5 files in 3 directories): - finish menu code transfer (Sets.lua -> PvPMenus.lua)
01:24.41Repo- remove Sets.lua
01:24.41nudelkuchencan somebody have a look at this -> http://pastebin.com/m56d6756f
01:25.34Balreignerrr
01:27.35nudelkucheni just need one example ~.~
01:29.21Balreignhttp://pastebin.com/dee03b7e
01:29.57Balreignsorry an error
01:29.59Balreignhttp://pastebin.com/d4ad2b6aa
01:30.07Balreignsecond one should work
01:32.09nudelkuchentesting
01:33.21nudelkuchenit is working
01:33.23nudelkuchenthank you :)
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02:04.54Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2774 RecipeDB/Cooking.lua:
02:04.56RepoAdded a missing F_VENDOR flag to the 3 Winter Veil cooking recipes.
02:06.04Repo10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r66 / (7 files in 3 directories): Added tag 2.0.12 for changeset 442a21f30314
02:06.06Repolocalisation fixes
02:06.07Repofixed libs.xml
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02:25.59onaforeignshoreok, I put *** @localization(locale="enUS", format="lua_additive_table", same-key-is-true=true)@ *** in my enUS.lua file, and it's doing *** L["Some Key"] = "" *** for all the values? what am I doing wrong?
02:27.57Wobinwhy ***?
02:28.23onaforeignshorethe *** are just to seperate my code from my chat on here... no *** in the file
02:28.47Wobinonaforeignshore, well... have you got any translations on the site?
02:30.09onaforeignshoreWobin: shouldn't matter for same-key-is-true, but yes, they are automatically added to the site afaik (and I can see them in my project page)
02:31.04onaforeignshoreI see the problem - when it imported, it didn't import the english phrase :(
02:31.27onaforeignshorewhich means I have to "translate" (actually input) everything again
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02:32.29Wobinhm
02:32.35Wobin@project guilder
02:32.50RepoWobin: http://www.wowace.com/addons/guilder/. Guilder. Game: WoW. onaforeignshore (Manager/Author). Updated: 21 minutes ago. Tickets: 1/2
02:34.34Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.0.3-28-g335116f / (5 files in 3 directories): [+4 commits]
02:34.36Repo335116f: Fixed indicators not reloading properly when enabled/disabled
02:34.36Repo5d6038e: Fixed casing, "Dungeon Role" should be "Dungeon role"
02:34.38Repo04daa01: Enabled dungeon role indicators for focus and target, off by default
02:34.39Repo132a508: Temporary enchants are enabled for Shaman's or Rogue's by default
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02:40.03Repo10wishlist: 03XIU * r55 / (4 files in 2 directories): Wishlist:
02:40.05Repo- Automatically get requirements from Vendor if open
02:40.41Wobinonaforeignshore, http://wowi.pastey.net/130422
02:40.48Wobinyou'll have to hand do the multiline ones
02:41.17Repo10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r69 / (7 files in 2 directories): Added tag 2.0.13 for changeset b8f9dbefadf6
02:41.34Repofixed Guilder.toc
02:41.35Reporemoved LibQTip-1.0
02:45.34onaforeignshoreWobin: realised that, so I removed the multiline ones from the addon. Thanks for the help!
02:51.12onaforeignshoreIt's still not importing my luadoc API though... curses :P
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03:09.08onaforeignshoreok, localization is working :D next problem
03:09.27onaforeignshoreit's not doing the move-folders: specified in .pkgmeta
03:12.04Wobinis it tossing errors?
03:12.10Wobinand have you got tabs in the file? =P
03:13.24Wobinyay for hg projects
03:13.27Wobinthat can be browsed online
03:18.02onaforeignshoreno tabs, no errors, just no moved folders lol
03:21.03onaforeignshorehttp://wowi.pastey.net/130425
03:22.18onaforeignshorethough I did notice that even though the local folder is "Guilder" and I have "package as: Guilder", it puts it in "guilder" - are the move folders case sensitive?
03:26.00onaforeignshorefound why it's guilder, not Guilder - on the website, even though it says "Note: For World of Warcraft this should match your TOC file's name. You can specify package-as in .pkgmeta, which will override this value." the website overrides the .pkgmeta (it's the reverse)
03:39.59Repo10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r71 / (7 files in 7 directories): Added tag 2.0.14 for changeset 9606b5f5fc2f
03:40.01Repoupdated modules to be LoD
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03:54.27Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2775 .pkgmeta: turn it off
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04:10.06Arrowmasteronaforeignshore: .pkgmeta overrides the website unless theres some special hg only bug
04:10.24Arrowmasterand yes move folders are case sensitive
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04:17.18Repo10ihatetabards: 03yess * r15 TabardChampion.toc: toc update
04:17.42Silowyianyone know off hand of a program that can combine 5 1-page pdf files into 1 5-page pdf file?
04:17.46onaforeignshoreArrowmaster: seems to be a hg bug then, cause it was "guilder" on the site, and "Guilder" in my .pkgmeta, and it didn't work until I changed the website to "Guilder"
04:18.00Repo10ihatetabards: 03yess 04v1.2 * r16 : Tagging as v1.2
04:18.14Arrowmastertell Kaelten/Ckknight
04:20.05SilowyiI wonder if Kaelten is a millionaire
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04:20.29SilowyiI wonder if speculation on the income of curse.com/wowace.com owners is grounds for a tempban from the channel >.>
04:20.31Silowyishuts up!
04:20.54quiescensof course not
04:21.20quiescensthat just gets some nice people in black suits to pay you a visit
04:21.37Silowyihehe
04:22.03Silowyi3*** Silowyi has left the channel (Kickban: We know where you live)
04:22.09Silowyi>.>
04:22.10Silowyi<.<
04:24.02Silowyinow what I need is some 40 weight cardstock
04:26.21SilowyiSo I think it was a mistake seeing Avatar 3D IMAX
04:26.42Axodiouswhy is that
04:27.04SilowyiCause ever since yesterday when I saw it I've just been sitting around listlessly going through the motions of existance thinking "Damn, life will never be that cool" :P
04:27.17quiescensgo to sleep
04:27.28SilowyiI did!
04:27.55Silowyithink I'll go play more Dragon Age
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04:51.51Repo10handy-notes_charon: 03zarevak * r27 Locales/enUS.lua: added some phrases for future use
04:55.31Repo10grid: 03Phanx * r1261 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): - Reverted Guiaswow's changes to range check pattern
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05:26.28Repo10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r73 / (8 files in 7 directories): Added tag 2.0.15 for changeset 033c6d8667fe
05:26.31Repoadded license disclaimer
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05:57.36Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r240 version: GatherMate_Data: Weekly update
05:57.43Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.78 * r241 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update
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06:40.03Repo10autodungeonretry: 03Starinnia * r11 Core.lua:
06:40.05Repo-if the addon gets disabled while a retry is pending cancel the retry timer
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07:09.50Repo10libfail-1-0: 03mysticalos * r179 LibFail-1.0.lua:
07:09.52Reposaurfang fail seems to work pretty well after testing so cleaning up comments
07:16.47Wobinwhere does the "Summary" get pulled from if you use a repository?
07:17.01Wobinie "A one-line summary that will show in the Curse Client and in other one-line contexts. Can be up to 128 characters. If you use the repository system, this will be populated automatically and it is recommended that you leave it blank."
07:45.36Arrowmasterthe note or description toc field whatever it is
07:46.05Arrowmasterits the same one line summary you get with the ingame addon menu
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08:17.29neonmanWoho, think I'm done with my little project, finally ^^
08:18.11neonmanWith very limited experience with lua, I set out to write an addon that adds support for LibQuickHealth in ShadowedUF ^^
08:18.47Repo10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r29 / (5 files in 2 directories):
08:18.49Repoadded deDE, updated enUS and frFR. Fixed tickets 6, 7, (and hopefully) 8. still throwing a db error, probably because profiles are coded wrong
08:19.10neonmanAnd it's working now, woho
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09:00.10airtonixffs mistell
09:07.27neonmanIf anyone (that's experienced with ShadowedUF) would like to take a look at the code and check so I didn't break something and/or made a change that will have unintentional sideeffects I would appreciate it. :)
09:07.32neonmanhttp://pastebin.ca/1721150
09:08.07neonmanIf you take the time to check it out, as a bonus you get to laugh a bit at me and my complete lack of experience with lua :P
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09:16.29Polarinaneonman: Remove line 8 so you don't annoy people.
09:16.52neonmanAll those prints are just for me while I was working on it
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09:17.43PolarinaLooks fine.
09:18.42neonmanNot really planning on "releasing" it (well, unless someone wants it, I guess). Just wrote it for myself
09:18.49neonmanCheers
09:19.23Polarina:)
09:23.47Gnarfozhmm
09:24.01Gnarfozdoesn't SUF already have QuickHealth built in?
09:24.06Gnarfozor was that just for power updates
09:25.03neonmanSUF only has frequentUpdates
09:25.12neonmanWhich is a bit faster, but still not as fast as QuickHealth
09:25.24neonmanHere you got a demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP5vx9rLLhE
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09:28.36jnwhitehneonman: nice video
09:30.35Wobinneonman, are you drowning there? =P
09:31.09Gnarfozlooks like Brunnhildar village in Storm Peaks, actually
09:31.12Wobinah, just targetting someone fighting
09:31.35Wobinneonman, you should keep the annotations up
09:31.43neonmanNot me who made the video, just linked to to show the difference
09:31.57Gnarfozsidenote: the incoming heals thingy seems to not be aware of the actual health value
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09:32.05neonmanAltho my addon can reproduce what is shown in that video, ofc
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09:37.41Repo10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.3-2-g5c5c9ba Mapster.lua: [+1 commit] Apply all frame settings during load already.
09:38.48KriLL3nevcairiel: mapster and tomtom isn't playing nice over quest pins again :\ get an error or it's offset depending on how much I've scaled down mapster from the default size
09:39.11nevcairielits not my fault
09:39.26nevcairielblame tomtom then
09:39.40nevcairielalthough i thought we fixed that
09:41.07Polarinablames Blizzard that we cannot just feed the world of warcraft client a document describing what we want and it makes it happen.
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09:45.27KriLL3nevcairiel: yeah thought that also
09:48.21onaforeignshoreThere seems to be a hg bug, because I put was "guilder" on the site, and "Guilder" in my .pkgmeta, and the move-folder: directive didn't work until I changed the website to "Guilder" (even though the website says that .pkgmeta will override the website name)
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09:59.50WobinSo can anyone approve a addon on wowace?
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10:02.59digmouseis there an action bar mod that can:
10:03.01digmousefade out a button when it's out of range
10:03.02digmousefade out a button when it's on cooldown
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10:11.37Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2478 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update
10:16.07Gnarfoz~seen shadowed
10:16.30purlshadowed is currently on #wowuidev (3d 17h 55m 33s) #wowace (3d 17h 55m 33s). Has said a total of 222 messages. Is idling for 12h 25m 56s, last said: 'it's evil'.
10:17.15Gnarfozhmmm
10:17.54Gnarfoza-ha.
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10:22.03Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2479 Modules/Crafting/crafting.lua: Added Glyph of Quick Decay
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10:45.36RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/afterdark/. AfterDark. wobin (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Nevcairiel.
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10:46.01Wobinta nev
10:46.10nevcairiela wow screensaver, wtf :P
10:46.16asmodaiheh
10:46.21asmodaistrange people is strange
10:46.33WobinI've always wanted to do it =P
10:46.44asmodaiearnt his household jobs daily
10:46.46Wobinthe 3.1 animation changes made it possible
10:46.53asmodaiDeclog the bathroom sink >_<
10:47.00WobinNow if only I can push these changes...
10:48.01asmodainevcairiel: Worse, it's the bloody toasters :(
10:48.15asmodaiOf all the cool shit he could've done.
10:48.26WobinAre you dissing the flying toasters?
10:48.32Wobinmy boy, go back to school!
10:49.03asmodaiYes!
10:49.07WobinThose flying toasters are cooler than you could ever hope to achieve
10:49.08asmodaiSod the toasters.
10:49.08nevcairielKriLL3: update tomtom, got it fixed
10:49.24WobinWould you have preferred Entertaining Windows Starscape
10:49.27Repo10afterdark (experimental): 03wobin * r2 / (16 files in 3 directories): Added tag v1.0-Release for changeset f601b8507480
10:49.28RepoAfterDark - Initial Import
10:49.32asmodaiOh btw, wowhead emailed me saying they're on the case of that buglet I had. So I guess that means it's Wowhead.
10:49.46nevcairielwhat bug?
10:49.47asmodaiWobin: I rather just turn my monitor off. Much more environmental friendly.
10:49.50WobinThere are very very few 'cool' screensavers
10:49.58asmodainevcairiel: class skill/trade skill refresh issue
10:50.06nevcairielnever heard of it
10:50.06Wobinasmodai, well yes. the whole point isn't to actually save your screen while playing
10:50.12asmodainevcairiel: Was a match between wowhead and questhelper to see which one caused it
10:50.19Wobinif you really think that's the point of the addon, you're completely missing it =P
10:50.27asmodaiWell, he mentions burn in
10:50.37WobinYeeees
10:50.39WobinI do.
10:50.44WobinIt's called... Sarcasm
10:50.44asmodaiOh noes
10:50.48asmodaiYou wrote it!
10:50.55Wobinyeeeessss I did! =P
10:50.58asmodaitakes Wobin down one peg on the coolness ladder
10:51.06WobinI'm sorry asmodai
10:51.10asmodaiYou disappoint me.
10:51.12asmodaiI mean
10:51.16WobinBy your lack of Internet Sarcasm detection
10:51.17asmodaiI know the US people are weird.
10:51.23WobinI'm going to have to remove your privliges
10:51.31WobinYou'll have to go back to telnet
10:51.34asmodaiBut I never thought my OZ pals would leave me in a lurch like that. :(
10:51.37asmodaiCan I also use gopher?
10:51.40Wobinpats asmodai
10:51.41WobinNo.
10:51.45asmodai(which people are trying to resurrect apparently)
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10:51.57asmodaiOh hey, btw, any of you pay Torchlight?
10:52.12WobinIf you honestly thought that was a serious addon, you really need to get yourself checked out =P
10:52.29asmodaiWobin: for a moment I thought so yes, although the karaoke part made me wonder
10:52.32KriLL3nevcairiel: can't see any update to tomtom on curse.com or the client
10:52.40Wobinasmodai, the original had a karoeke mode =P
10:53.05KriLL3ah newer version on wowi
10:54.11winkillerasmodai: not so much, actively, but why?
10:54.19winkillerthink my Vanq is just below 20
10:54.59asmodaiwinkiller: Is it me or did they add a lot of extra tilesets recently? I cannot remember after beating Brink that I got these subterranean dungeons. I was only going around in tunnels and tunnels.
10:55.29asmodaiwould think that their idea of a MMO might very well work. The Torchlight world seems interesting enough.
10:56.18winkilleroh, I didn't play since patch :(
10:56.35winkillerwhich is.. like a month?
10:56.37asmodaiThey recently (Dec 18) pushed out a major update
10:56.47winkilleryeah I heard
10:56.48asmodaiRunic's critically-acclaimed action RPG, Torchlight, has received a major update to add support for Steam Cloud functionality and Steam Achievements. With Steam Cloud support, Torchlight saved games and characters now follow you to any PC. In addition to adding Cloud support, Torchlight players may now slash their way to over 60 Steam achievements.
10:57.09winkillertorchlight.exe - created 30.10.
10:57.13winkillerthat's when I bought it
10:57.16asmodaiheh
10:57.19winkillerand played in november
10:57.22asmodaiBetter update then :)
10:57.31winkillerno time, no time
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10:59.41Repo10afterdark (experimental): 03wobin * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag v1.0-Release for changeset e52cea93e1c6
10:59.43RepoRemoved tag v1.0-Release
10:59.44RepoAfterDark - Adding AceGUI library
11:00.14nevcairielew the wob uses hg
11:00.31asmodaihg++
11:00.43Wobingit is too hardcore for my needs
11:00.43sb|work@describe afterdark
11:00.44Reposb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/afterdark/. AfterDark. Artwork by Tomoya Ikeda & Igor Gasowski Original concept by Jack Eastman - Thank you for the memories...
11:00.47asmodaiWobin: lol
11:00.57WobinI'm a single developer =P
11:01.03nevcairielone reason not to use hg is that the hg backend on wowace is the least tested and developed
11:01.05WobinI don't need git's shiny multi everything
11:01.08sb|workWTF
11:01.23nevcairielWobin: you realize that hg and git essentially do the same, yes? :D
11:01.31Wobinnevcairiel, yes
11:01.38Wobinbut tortoisehg is easier to use
11:01.47nevcairielslave to GUI
11:01.48nevcairiel:)
11:01.50Wobintruedat
11:01.53asmodainevcairiel: You do realize not everyone is on the git bandwagon, yes? :)
11:02.04Wobinis there a git http browser on wowace?
11:02.13WobinI assume so
11:02.26nevcairielI was just confused by the statement you don't need the features git offers, but if you ask a hg fanboi, it would have even more features then git, obviously!
11:02.34asmodaiHahaha
11:02.45Wobinhehe, I fanboi nothing =P
11:02.55Wobinexcept evangalise for people not to use SVN =)
11:03.16asmodaiIt's funny though, because if you look around you generally see the git users being the most vocal. Almost as if they need to reassure themselves about it.
11:03.22WobinFriends don't let friends use Subversion =(
11:03.29asmodaiuses svn
11:03.30nevcairielaround here? we just dont have many hg users
11:03.41Wobinpats asmodai, you poor bugger
11:03.41asmodainevcairiel: I come from the Python world, guess it comes naturally ;)
11:03.55asmodaiWobin: Not really. Carefully considered use cases. :)
11:04.02asmodaiuses the right tools for the jobs.
11:04.07nevcairielpython people have a big bandwagen for hg as well
11:04.16asmodaiFuck being gungho for one solution.
11:04.20nevcairielbecause its written in python, of course!
11:04.41asmodainevcairiel: Not that I have seen to be honest. Maybe I've not visited the right blogs.
11:04.50asmodaishrugs
11:04.56asmodaiOh well, fuck it all anyway.
11:05.02Repo10afterdark (experimental): 03wobin * r6 .hgtags: Added tag v0.1-Beta for changeset fe8a1ba781bd
11:05.03asmodaiUse what works for you.
11:05.12asmodaiI still find my zsh superior to bash anyway :P
11:05.23nevcairielzsh is superior to bash.
11:05.40Wobingah
11:05.54Wobinwhy isn't it reading it as an non-alpha release?
11:05.57Wobinstupid packager
11:07.01asmodainevcairiel: Try to explain that to people XD
11:07.12asmodainevcairiel: I love my command argument completion :)
11:07.27nevcairielpeople are just confused by zsh because it needs some initial configuration to work properly
11:07.46nevcairielargument completion and the tab completion are so much win
11:07.58nevcairielbash' tab completion is really fail in comparison
11:08.01Repo10afterdark (experimental): 03wobin * r7 .hgtags: Added tag v0.1Beta for changeset cb11af5abf66
11:08.13asmodaiI love this from bash' manual page:
11:08.18asmodaiBUGS
11:08.18asmodai<PROTECTED>
11:08.22nevcairiellol
11:08.42Wobinrrrr
11:08.44asmodaiI just get cranky when people write scripts for /bin/bash
11:09.01nevcairieluse bin/sh ffs :d
11:09.05asmodaiaye
11:09.21asmodaiI always rewrite.
11:09.22nevcairielWobin: blame kaelten!
11:09.31asmodaiSpent last week rewriting (t)csh stuff to sh
11:09.43Wobinnevcairiel, I totally am, in the back of my mind
11:09.50Wobinrails against the inanity
11:10.13nevcairielor just enable alpha packaging :D
11:10.21nevcairieli blame the hg backend
11:10.22WobinI set it to beta/release
11:10.24Repo10afterdark (experimental): 03wobin * r8 .hgtags: Added tag v0.1Release for changeset e67bf045155a
11:10.26Wobinbut it doesn't respond
11:10.35Wobinor the packager doesn't believe it =(
11:10.44nevcairielthe packager says it has a new alpha build
11:10.46nevcairielfor some reason
11:10.57WobinI'm assuming it's the tag name
11:11.19nevcairieltags have to be very special to be alpha
11:11.25nevcairielby default they are beta
11:11.26Wobinwait... now it builds both?
11:11.28Wobin><
11:11.42asmodaiWait, the packager is still running?
11:11.47asmodaiBut it's the weekend!
11:11.49nevcairielwell
11:11.52nevcairielsomewhat running
11:12.03nevcairielit doesnt like Wobin today
11:12.24WobinI called its mother nasty things
11:13.32asmodaitime to make croissants
11:21.09Repo10afterdark (experimental): 03wobin * r10 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added tag v0.2Beta for changeset 793cab303c84
11:21.25RepoAfterDark - More .pkg updates
11:22.08Gnarfoz@describe afterdark
11:22.09RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/afterdark/. AfterDark. Artwork by Tomoya Ikeda & Igor Gasowski Original concept by Jack Eastman - Thank you for the memories...
11:22.15Gnarfozuhmmm
11:22.52Gnarfozmonitor burn ins... right
11:23.02Gnarfozwowace needs a "rofl" category, like WoWI has :P
11:23.37WobinI agree =P
11:23.48Repo10repgain2: 03texke * r68 RepGain2.toc:
11:23.50RepoMore .toc hashing. Order of Libs loading prevented some parts of the addon not working when using without any others with the same Libs...
11:23.51WobinIt's hard to use sarcasm on the internet, some people just don't get it =P
11:26.46Repo10afterdark (experimental): 03wobin * r12 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added tag v0.3Beta for changeset d77a9b743029
11:26.48RepoAfterDark - And AceEvent as well...
11:29.37Repo10afterdark (experimental): 03wobin * r13 .hgtags: Added tag v1.0Release for changeset 2761550de087
11:36.13Wobinnevcairiel, can you push it out of experimental?
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11:44.59asmodaiman, it's really winter wonderland here
11:45.05asmodaibeen snowing for the past 3-4 hours at least
11:48.30GnarfozXinhuan: how to disable a Postal module externally? I can't seem to figure it out :\
11:48.44Xinhuandelete the module file
11:48.47Gnarfozno
11:48.51Gnarfozfrom another addon, at runtime
11:48.51Gnarfoz:p
11:49.09Xinhuancan't u just use the menu
11:49.12Gnarfozno?
11:49.14Xinhuanto do it
11:49.27Xinhuanthere's a dropdown menu button next to the X button of the mailbox in the corner
11:49.32GnarfozI obviously can, but that's not what I'm asking :[
11:49.44Xinhuani mean why would u want to do it programatically
11:50.05Xinhuanyou either want it on all the time, or off all the time
11:50.18Xinhuannot toggle on/off, yes?
11:50.19Gnarfozbecause another addon also provides an OpenAll button (which works better, too), but it bails out by checking for IsAddonLoaded("Postal")
11:50.52Xinhuanhow would disabling a module in postal help then
11:50.54Gnarfozso I want to make the other addon disable Postal's button
11:50.58XinhuanPostal would still be loaded
11:51.05Xinhuaneven if the module is not
11:51.07Gnarfozso?
11:51.21XinhuanIsAddonLoaded("Postal") would still return true and it would still bail
11:51.23Gnarfozonly the OpenAll module is redundant
11:51.46Gnarfozyes, it would, and if I could change the other addon to instead disable Postal's OpenAll module...
11:52.15Xinhuani could tellyou how, but i want to know why first
11:52.30Gnarfozuhm... :\
11:52.32Xinhuanand your why reason isn't convincing me
11:52.38Gnarfozwhat is unclear?
11:52.58Xinhuani'm unclear why you want to make the 2nd addon disable OpenAll, when u can disable it directly in Postal
11:53.05GnarfozQuickAuctions has its own OpenAll button now, and Shadowed added a needlessly simple IsAddonLoaded check to see if Postal is present
11:53.24Gnarfozbecause QA is not loaded all the time or on all characters
11:53.46asmodaixinhuan!
11:53.58Xinhuani see, so what you want then is a Postal:GetModule("OpenAll"):IsEnabled()
11:54.11Xinhuanand also Postal:GetModule("OpenAll"):Enable()
11:54.13Xinhuanand also Postal:GetModule("OpenAll"):Disable()
11:54.30Xinhuanan addon's module works exactly like a standalone ace3 addon
11:54.47Xinhuanwhen all the associated AceAddon-3.0 commands
11:54.58Gnarfozthanks, I'll try to see what I can do with that :) I guess I was trying to do it to directly (i.e. through tables I shouldn't access directly)
11:55.02Xinhuanthat is, modules also have their own OnInitialize(), OnEnable() etc
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11:55.45Xinhuanthey are simple an ace3 addon in their own right, but guaranteed to load only after the main addon that parents them has loaded
11:56.57Xinhuanwhats teh difference between QA's openall and postal's?
11:58.10GnarfozXinhuan: QA's automatically re-opens the mailbox after 60 seconds (i.e. when new mail gets available), and it also keeps retrying even if the inventory is full, because there could be mail in there that has attachments that fit onto an incomplete stack present in your inventory
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11:58.38Xinhuanwhat does QA do
11:58.46Gnarfozi.e. I can go away while it tries to fill my 144 inventory slots :)
11:59.09Gnarfozautomated auction posting, undercutting, cancelling of undercut auctions, etc
11:59.29Xinhuanbut i suppose you actually have to move to the mailbox/AH yourself, ya?
11:59.39Gnarfozhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12196-QuickAuctions2.html (that OpenAll thingy is not in that version yet, I'm using a git working copy)
11:59.53GnarfozXinhuan: hehe, yes, that part you still have to do manually :0
12:00.33Gnarfozand Blizzard protected CancelAuction() in 3.3, so you have to press a key to cancel now ^^
12:01.21Xinhuanso how does QA work in that regard?
12:01.55Gnarfozwell, either Blizzard fucked up or they weren't totally hard-line about it: one keypress allows an abritrary amount of CancelAuction() calls
12:02.30Xinhuanbtw, i didn't add the 60 sec auto-refresh of mailbox to Postal because of Select module
12:02.40Xinhuanand filtering of openall
12:02.46Xinhuanit screws it up
12:03.04Xinhuanevery mail, as you know, has an index number of 1-50
12:03.23Wobinwhat are "Requests to Review" on Curse?
12:04.03Xinhuanif say you are opening mail 28 and you refresh the mailbox, mails after 28 needs to be rechecked
12:04.14Xinhuanits very tricky also
12:04.47Xinhuanbecause Postal has a "keep X bag slots free" option, that is tricky to maintain to contonue trying to open attachments that might fit onto a partial stack in your bag
12:04.52RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/afterdark/. AfterDark. wobin (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
12:05.01Xinhuandunno, its pretty annoying to implement right
12:05.01RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/marketender/. Marketender. ahedfour (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Nevcairiel.
12:05.04Wobinta nev
12:06.26GnarfozXinhuan: yeah I can see how Postal's many more features could make it quite a bit harder... QA's OpenAll has way less stuff to worry about
12:06.48XinhuanOpenALl, if it really just open's everything, doesn't have to check lots of stuff
12:07.05GnarfozXinhuan: I guess the filtering options are also why Postal doesn't use AutoLootMailItem(), right?
12:07.12Xinhuanya
12:07.34Xinhuanmainly i can't tell when a mail has been completely looted
12:07.41Xinhuanto go on to the next mail with that one
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12:11.44Gnarfozso, without knowing QA's OpenAll code, do you think it would be a bad idea to do it that way? (disable Postal's OpenAll) Or would that entrail problems with Postal's other modules...
12:12.16Xinhuannot sure
12:12.21yoshimois there an addon that calculates the total rep i can get with all zg bijous and coins and stuff?
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12:12.32Gnarfozyoshimo: google docs? :>
12:12.49Xinhuanwhat i can tell you is that the 60 sec refresh, atm, will cause Postal to stop opening mails if it was in the middle of opening any
12:14.38Xinhuanthere's another issue
12:14.50Xinhuanblizzard's templates changed slightly for menus and dropdowns
12:15.00Xinhuanand they may end up below frames making them unclicable
12:15.06Xinhuanits retarded
12:15.25Xinhuanthey added a <OnLoad> script to set the buttons to FrameLevel = 2
12:15.35Xinhuanwithout considering that their parent may have a higher frame level
12:18.35KriLL3Xinhuan: I got a suggestion for handynotes, add an option to increase the markers a certain % when the map is showing quest objectives, the map and all in it get scales down when you do, would be nice if handynotes scaled it's icons back up to the same size they were before showing the objectives
12:19.23KriLL3I like having fairly small icons, and when I press show quest objectives on the map the already fairly small icons become tiny
12:21.45Xinhuani haven't touched that addon for nearly a year lol
12:21.51Xinhuansurprised it still works
12:22.31yoshimoXinhuan , the only thing that doesnt work is hrothgars landing, because astrolabe is a bit old ;)
12:22.42Xinhuanhmm i don't have errors
12:22.54Xinhuanoh
12:22.59Xinhuani guess its because i have tomtom installed
12:23.05Xinhuanwhich keeps that lib updated
12:24.08nevcairielyeah just place a new copy in it
12:26.49Xinhuansomeone shuld help me deal with the 20 tickets on handynotes
12:26.51Xinhuan;p
12:27.09Wobinhits *denied* 20 times
12:28.48kandarznevcairiel: approve one more addon? http://www.wowace.com/addons/loot-council/
12:29.19Gnarfoz!api GetAddOnInfo
12:29.19lua_botGetAddOnInfo: Returns information about an addon (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetAddOnInfo)
12:30.16Gnarfozwhy... would you check for the presence of an addon this way? if( select(6, GetAddOnInfo("Postal")) == nil ) then
12:30.25Gnarfoz!api IsAdd
12:30.26lua_botFound 2 possible results for 'IsAdd': IsAddOnLoadOnDemand, IsAddOnLoaded
12:30.40Gnarfozwouldn't IsAddOnLoaded be better suited for that?
12:31.09Torhalnevcairiel: See what you started?
12:31.20RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/loot-council/. Loot Council. kandarz (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
12:31.45kandarz<3 Torhal
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12:34.11GnarfozI love how changing one little line in an addon manages to kill off all Ace3 based addons -.-
12:34.25TorhalGnarfoz: ?
12:34.43Gnarfozdon't ask me :o
12:34.52yoshimoGnarfoz , better break ace2 ;)
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12:47.18Repo10drawing-board: 03vaeyl 040.65 * r29 : Tagging as 0.65
12:47.46Repo10transcriptor: 03funkydude * r123 Transcriptor.lua: Log the event name for events without registered functions.
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12:59.30KriLL3why is the realm time offset about 2min from real time?
12:59.49KriLL3old hamsters in the clocks?
13:00.04PolarinaKriLL3: Bug a game-master.
13:00.23KriLL3kk, i'll tell him you sent me
13:00.32nevcairielPolarina: people like you is why game masters are too busy for real problems, go diaf :P
13:00.44Polarina:P
13:00.55PolarinaKriLL3: Please do.
13:01.43Fiskeri disagree nevcairiel :P
13:01.50Fisker(please don't ban me)
13:01.55nevcairielalso people like Fisker
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13:10.28RepoCitadel: Add a Deathbound Ward (Marrowgar trash) module to warn for disrupting shout.
13:13.36Fiskerterribads!
13:13.41robotusch^^
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13:29.35yoshimonice one funky, i was thinking about coding the same thing
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13:30.10Gnarfozhuh, wasn't that module already there some time ago?
13:39.35FtH|Daemonaanyone tried tidy plates as replacement for aloft?
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14:48.19ThoraineHiya I was hoping someone could help me out. I was trying to figure out how to check if a fire totem is down or not. I know ShockAndAwe has that functionality but I'm not sure where and what to look. Could anyone help me?
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15:50.02KriLL3does addon settings get saved on /rl ?
15:50.38nevcairielyes
15:51.05KriLL3good, hate sitting for a long while configuring an addon, and then having a crash ruin all of it
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16:18.46winkiller/console reloadui :P
16:19.07winkillerlacks reading comprehension
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16:30.19nevcairiel!api zonename
16:30.19lua_botCould not find a match for 'zonename'.
16:30.35nevcairiel!api zone
16:30.35lua_botFound 14 possible matches for 'zone'.  Please be more specific
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16:55.38ShadowedGnarfoz: No, Postal uses AddonLoader as does QA so checking IsAddOnLoaded would be inaccurate if QA loaded before Postal
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16:56.17GnarfozShadowed: right, I noticed that
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16:58.20GnarfozShadowed: and I couldn't get it to check for Postal's OpenAll module, even though there's methods available for that
17:00.16GnarfozShadowed: do you think just calling Postal:GetModule("OpenAll"):Disable() instead would be a solution? bailing out entirely seems a bit broad
17:00.32ShadowedNo, I'm not going to add something to specifically disable another mod
17:00.53Gnarfozyou already have something to specifically disable stuff in your own mod when a specific other mod is present ;-)
17:01.11ShadowedWhich isn't the same as disabling another mod
17:02.31Gnarfozwell, hm
17:02.43Gnarfozdue to LoD, Postal:GetModule("OpenAll"):IsEnabled() is not worth much, either
17:03.21nevcairielcheck if its loaded, if not, register for addon_loaded?
17:03.24nevcairielthen disable
17:03.50ShadowedI am going to go with, it's easier to flat out check for Postal, and I still don't want to disable another addon even selectively
17:04.10KriLL3is there a way to use different tidy plate themes depending on party etc?
17:04.23KriLL3want tanking ones in an instance, want something else in pvp
17:04.31Gnarfozwell, IsEnabled() is not disabling another mod =(
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17:23.21Fiskeryour mother is enabled Gnarfoz
17:24.38Megalonthat's the one things she has not in common with your brain Fisker
17:25.05winkillerthat's pretty insulting still
17:25.16winkilleras it implies having many things in common with Fisker
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17:38.53stavmarI am getting an error for 'testcharlie', is this in Ace framework somewhere?
17:40.38FtH|Daemonayou could give a little more detail, like posting the error from bugsack at http://ace.pastey.net
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18:10.28ThoraineHi guys I asked this earlier and want to put it out there again. Is there a way to check if a fire totem is down or not?
18:11.37ThoraineLike how ShockAndAwe does it. But I don't understand enough LUA to know which part is running the check for the fire totem
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18:17.41AdremmaI would guess SAA watches SPELL_SUMMON and UNIT_DIED events, and keeps track itself when the totem's duration simply expires, instead
18:20.33winkilleror there's a function to check if a fire totem is active
18:20.38ThoraineThere's a line that says local _, totemname, start, duration = GetTotemInfo(1)
18:20.45Thorainein the priorities.lua
18:20.47winkillerlike.. you can't cast fire nova thingy
18:20.53Thorainebut i don't have enough knowledge to make sense of it
18:21.42winkillerhttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetTotemInfo
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18:22.14winkillerthe _ should be a variable you need
18:22.16Thorainecool thank you
18:22.19winkiller# haveTotem - True if a totem of the given type is active (boolean)
18:23.01ThoraineNot sure I understand the next line
18:23.01winkillerthat is sick
18:23.02Thoraineif not totemname or totemname == "" then -- no fire totem deployed so recommend it be dropped
18:23.02winkiller. Totem functions are also used for ghouls summoned by a Death Knight's Raise Dead ability
18:23.29winkillerThoraine: I would have written it like this:
18:23.40winkillerlocal foo, totemname, start, duration = GetTotemInfo(1)
18:23.50winkillerif not foo then -- no fire ...
18:24.04winkillerbut basically it's jsut a check if there's a fire totem up
18:24.57ThoraineI see
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18:27.47Thoraineso basically haveTotem store the value in foo, name in totemname and so on?
18:28.15ShadowedNo, haveTotem just tells you that they actually have the totem and can cast it
18:28.19ThoraineJust starting so not too sure how it all works
18:28.50Shadowedif you want to see if a totem is active, check start > 0
18:29.05ThoraineI know but I'm not too sure what the few words infront are for. Are they for the returns that GetTotemInfo generates?
18:29.25Shadowed~pil
18:29.26purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
18:29.33ShadowedYou should probably read that first :p
18:29.53ThoraineOkay. Thanks.
18:30.34winkillerheh
18:30.58winkillerShadowed: then the api description is 100% wrong though
18:31.18winkillerbecause I can't think of any meaning of "True if a totem of the given type is active " other than I said
18:31.45ShadowedI might be thinking of a different API, but I doubt it
18:31.51ShadowedI don't have a Shaman with which to test again
18:33.13AdremmaBlizz's TotemFrame.lua is treating it as the api describes it, for what that's worth
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18:51.33krkaThoraine: you shouldn't capitalize Lua like that :-)
18:56.42ThoraineNot sure I get you.
19:01.12ThoraineOh. Lua instead of Lua.
19:01.13Thorainei mean
19:01.14ThoraineLUA.
19:01.19Thoraineokay.
19:01.39KriLL3errm isn't it Lua/lua? don't think it's an acronym
19:01.53yoshimoits another word for moon
19:02.03KriLL3no that's luna
19:02.12Xinhuani find it amusing everyone falls for krka's botted response to "Lua"
19:02.23Xinhuanhe has about 20 different botted responses
19:02.49KriLL3Xinhuan: you sure? it's not right after
19:02.51yoshimoKriLL3 ""Lua" (pronounced LOO-ah) means "Moon" in Portuguese. "
19:02.53FiskerLUA
19:02.57Xinhuanit is
19:03.01Xinhuanit has a timer
19:03.05Xinhuannot to respond right away
19:03.09KriLL3ah
19:03.14KriLL3to be less obviously bot
19:04.05weabwhat a stupid thing to make a bot do
19:04.14weabalthough, by and large people only use bots for stupid things so whatever
19:04.14KriLL3naw
19:04.35krkaXinhuan: you think that was scripted?
19:04.44Xinhuanyes ;p
19:04.50krkahow long was that delay?
19:04.51Xinhuanyou used to respond within 1 sec
19:05.00Xinhuanmaybe that one wasn't
19:05.03krkaand how many times have you seen me comment that in the last few months?
19:05.11Xinhuannot sure heh
19:05.14Xinhuandid u disable it?
19:05.33KriLL3weab: well some are handy, like the bot that auto bans people saying something to the effect of "5on5 got server!" in #CSS
19:05.37Xinhuanit WAS scripted right? lol
19:05.51KriLL3Xinhuan: is OCD classified as a script?
19:05.58Xinhuanslaps KriLL3 away with a large trout
19:06.00weabi don't disagree they can be used properly
19:06.04weabjust that they rarely are
19:10.36KriLL3anyone else having the same bug as me? some death animations are repeated
19:10.57KriLL3mob falls dead, then a split second later it's standing again and falls dead a second time
19:11.07KriLL3happens 1/3 of mobs I kill
19:18.33Gnarfozit's a common 3.3 bug
19:18.58Adirellebtw, anyone having autoshot issues with hunters ?
19:19.25KriLL3Adirelle: yes, hunters using autoshot are annoying ;)
19:19.49weabwhat kind of issues?
19:19.55Adirelleno, I mean I sometimes have my toon holding its crossbow to shot even if I have no target
19:20.13Adirelleit can last forever
19:20.19weabhaven't had that happen on my hunter yet
19:20.24Adirelleif I ever select a target in that state, it automatically shots
19:21.04Adirelleit happens even if I get out of combat, use my mount, then dismount
19:21.23Adirelleif I select anything in range at that point, it's a pull...
19:22.56Adirellethe autoshot skills look disabled and I have enabled all interface options to stop autoshot whenever possible
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19:24.39Adirellehrm, interesting, it seems it involves moving, switching target and steady shot...
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19:27.15Fiskerslaps KriLL3 around a bit with a large trout
19:27.18Fiskerit is cold
19:27.23KriLL3indeed
19:27.50KriLL3though I prefer cold over heat, can add more clothing to combat cold, at a certain point you can't undress more to fight heat...
19:28.08marshenhow do i /run print() a text in red?
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19:30.15KriLL3bah, this time of year all TV stops to make room for old and boring holiday stuff you've already seen a million times
19:30.37weabhow's that different from the rest of tv
19:31.19KriLL3not a lot, though it stops the few shows that I actually enjoy, and aren't re-runs
19:37.21krkaXinhuan: yes it used to be a script, but people seemed to be annoyed by it
19:37.54KriLL3krka: so now you just do it manually instead?
19:42.01yoshimoretribution paladin, does anyone know the amount of expertiserating needed to be capped?
19:42.32Gnarfoz26 expertise
19:42.39Gnarfoz(like every other melee class, wtf)
19:42.58Groktarand 214 rating -> 26 expertise
19:43.09yoshimomy pally has always been holy before , im sorry
19:43.10weab26 is soft cap. more won't hurt
19:43.13weabjust won't help as much
19:43.15Gnarfozuhm
19:43.17Gnarfozmore is a total waste.
19:43.26Groktarunless you're bad and dps from the front
19:43.28Gnarfozdo you plan on standing before the boss?
19:43.34Gnarfoz:P
19:43.49KriLL3what is a "soft" cap btw?
19:43.56Groktarpoints to the video where he tries to dps saurfang from the front while wearing tank gear
19:43.59weabas a tank yeah. and sometimes as dps it can't be helped
19:44.07Gnarfozit can always be helped
19:44.13Gnarfozdon't gear for sub-optimal situations
19:44.17Groktarand he specifically said ret paladin
19:44.40GnarfozKriLL3: depends on the cap, really
19:44.51KriLL3?...
19:44.54GnarfozKriLL3: 26 expertise is how much you need to eliminate dodge from the table
19:45.08KriLL3how is "soft" different from "hard"
19:45.15Gnarfozhowever, up to 54 expertise (or some other astronomical number) is needed to eliminate parry from the table
19:45.19Groktarbecause it doesn't eliminate parry
19:45.41Gnarfozso after 54 expertise (or whatever the actual number is), expertise just doesn't do *anything* for you
19:45.44Gnarfozi.e. hard cap
19:46.03Gnarfozafter 26 you (as a DPS class) get less of a return
19:46.07Gnarfozi.e. soft cap :)
19:46.16weabjust saying, past 26 it's still technically doing something
19:46.20Gnarfoz(because from 26 to 54, it only reduces parry, because dodge is already gone)
19:46.37weaband that's worth noting imo
19:46.46KriLL3well as a tank it is
19:46.48KriLL3I'm in front
19:46.54weabwhether or not he should care is another story
19:46.57KriLL3or in pvp, can't always be behind
19:46.57Gnarfozwell, the guy asking was DPS.
19:47.11weabi know
19:47.16weaband even dps should know that
19:47.17weabi think
19:47.41ThoraineNo expertise on shaman t10
19:47.42Thoraine=(
19:48.22KriLL3I don't understand why expertise and hit are both missing from most feral gear
19:48.38KriLL3annoying to have to gem that instead of agi
19:49.08nevcairielbecause most feral gear also runs for tanks
19:49.17nevcairielwhile they need some expertise and hit
19:49.18KriLL3and tanks need hit / expertise also
19:49.20nevcairielnot as much
19:49.28nevcairielwell expertise maybe even more
19:49.34nevcairielbut hit they usually dont even stack that high
19:49.49KriLL3I want some hit, otherwise you miss way too much
19:50.00KriLL3especially on taunts etc
19:50.04Gnarfozferals are 1-handers, right?
19:50.08nevcairielyes
19:50.18Gnarfozheh, so you get off really easy
19:50.18nevcairielKriLL3: some yes, but most tanks are not hit capped
19:50.22nevcairielwhile dps do that
19:50.22KriLL3yes despite having 2 paws
19:50.25Gnarfozalso, taunts are spells.
19:50.37KriLL3Gnarfoz: and hit affects spells to my knowledge
19:50.39Gnarfozso you'd have to spell hit cap that shit
19:50.46Gnarfozthere is only "hit", KriLL3
19:50.51Gnarfozbut the caps are different.
19:51.05KriLL3yes, but some hit is advisable
19:51.09KriLL3instead of 0
19:51.12GnarfozI didn't say otherwise.
19:51.27Gnarfozjust saying that for hit-capping taunts, you'll need quite a bit more hit than you need for melee.
19:51.33Gnarfozbut hey, that's what the taunt glyphs are for.
19:52.04Gnarfozmeh
19:52.04Gnarfozhttp://www.steorn.com/
19:52.07KriLL3a bit weird that all classes with taunt got that glyph, make it baseline
19:52.21Gnarfozwhy should they? it's not necessary
19:52.26Gnarfozif you want it, glyph or gear for it
19:52.28KriLL3nothing is
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20:09.42Groktarit's supposed to be a choice KriLL3
20:09.54KriLL3right, do you want reliable taunt or not
20:09.59KriLL3not really a choice
20:10.06Groktarya it is
20:10.19Groktarthere are plenty of fights where it doesn't really matter
20:10.21KriLL3Groktar: would you like a milkshake with or without ground glass?
20:10.34GroktarKriLL3, you are awful
20:10.38Groktaryou will always be awful
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20:10.54KriLL3I disagree
20:10.57Gnarfozthere is like a handful of fights where it matters
20:11.15Groktarthat proves my second point KriLL3
20:11.16weabi find taunt glyph nearly worthless
20:11.33Groktaryou will always be awful because you fail to recognize your awfulness
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20:11.49KriLL3Groktar: that's not a word
20:11.58Groktarthe *only* fight i find taunt glyph mandatory for is anub'arak
20:12.10Groktarand that's because i'm responsible for the front right add
20:12.26Groktarevery other fight i couldn't care less
20:13.11Groktaroh, i put it in for ic hard
20:13.21Groktarso up to two fights
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20:41.10Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * v1.2.3 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add mover for boss target frames (Gunship, etc)
20:41.17Repo10sexymap: 03Antiarc 04v1.2.3 * b23773f /: [new tag] tagging as 1.2.3
20:42.56Gnarfoz!api enable
20:42.56lua_botFound 34 possible matches for 'enable'.  Please be more specific
20:42.58Gnarfoz!api addon
20:42.59lua_botFound 21 possible matches for 'addon'.  Please be more specific
20:43.02Gnarfoz!api EnableAddOn
20:43.03lua_botEnableAddOn: Marks an addon as enabled (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/EnableAddOn)
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20:44.59Gnarfozthat takes the directory name/.toc filename as an argument, right?
20:45.02Gnarfoznot the Title
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20:54.51sztanpetAntiarc after moving the boss target frame with the new version, the frame doesnt hide itself
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21:01.40Repo10epgploot2: 03felsir * r56 / (3 files in 1 directory): fixed Free Roll bug
21:02.12Repo10epgploot2: 03felsir 04v2.3.4release * r57 : Bugfix in Free Roll
21:04.44GnarfozShadowed: using /qa cancelall just disconnected me (7 auctions cancelled at that point, so, right after executing the command) and left my character in a "A character with that name already exists" state for a while... after being able to log in again, all auctions were cancelled... o_O Blizzard's ways are mysterious
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21:23.59Fiskercan you join alliance instances via LFD? :o
21:25.38yoshimoyou mean deadmines and the stormwind dungeons? ;)
21:31.06WobinFisker, yes
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21:34.03CrazyBenny_can you join low level instances on lvl80? or atleast the TBC ones?
21:34.21ShefkiYes.
21:34.56ShefkiOk I take that back.
21:34.59ShefkiYou can join the old raids.
21:35.05*** part/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@91-113-5-187.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
21:35.05ShefkiBut not the old 5 mans.
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21:35.29CrazyBenny_bah, was hoping to easily gather folks for MGT for the pet:S
21:36.20ShefkiYou can 2 man MGT
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21:37.18Axodiousthere anyone around that's familiar with javascript?
21:37.25Axodiousthat wouldn't mind me taking a few minutes of their time
21:37.37CrazyBenny_Axodious: sure
21:37.44Axodiousmind if i pm you?
21:37.54CrazyBenny_sure
21:39.05zoktarehm i had an addon a while back that worked like, OptionHouse, but u could save a list of addons u wanted to have loaded, serveral infact, anyone know wich one that was ? =)
21:42.10zoktarfound it
21:42.14zoktartoomanyaddons
21:43.09Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.7-1-g0d08ae1 Data/Auras.lua: [+1 commit] fix possible memory leak in the UNIT_AURA-hack
21:43.24zoktarbleh not updated
21:46.17zoktaraddon control panel did it :)
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21:49.58PrimerIs it possible to make Quartz NOT display a target bar if I'm channeling a spell against it, since it's already showing the channeled spell in the player bar?
21:50.30PrimerI can find no such option
21:50.51sztanpetyea, dont target yourself
21:51.00Primereh?
21:51.26PrimerI use quartz as a dot timer
21:51.41sztanpetwow
21:51.42Primersay I dot up the target (on my warlock), then drain soul
21:52.08PrimerI get a bar for drain soul as well as my cast bar
21:52.14Primerit's just redundant
21:56.43Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r128 Core.lua: Remove old option
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22:04.20Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-4-g5a648e4 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Make the Aggro module function when run in an unpackaged format.
22:09.04Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.2.0b / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] added option to have the loot window open to the current instance and/or group difficulty disabled by default
22:09.25Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 040.2.0b * f47860d /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.2.0b
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22:15.41Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.8 CHANGELOG.txt: [+1 commit] update changelog
22:15.42Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.10.8 * 084fbeb /: [new tag] tag as v1.10.8
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22:29.37HidAnyone got some information on how I should go about hooking into the default blizz unitframes to add support for LibQuickHealth? Very inexperienced with LUA, and got 0 experience with blizz default addon code ^^
22:29.55HidWould appreciate a nudge in the right direction (a link to something, maby? =)
22:30.03yoshimoisnt lqh deprecated ? ;)
22:30.28HidStill works just fine (added support for it to SUF yesterday! :P)
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22:30.52HidGot an arena partner begging me to add support for it to the default blizz frames aswell :P
22:31.12yoshimoas far as i know, suf has quickpolling included so you dont need lqh  hid
22:31.20HidIt isn't the same
22:31.27Hidlqh is still faster
22:31.39Hid(about 200-300 ms from my tests)
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22:32.09Hidwhile unitframes without frequentUpdates is like lagged by 600-1000ms
22:32.31Hidyoshimo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP5vx9rLLhE
22:32.39SunTsuHid: as a side note, it's lua, and it means "moon", it's not an acronyme, and therefore no need to caps it
22:33.06HidSunTsu, Haha, good to know ;)
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22:34.03HidMy main language is perl, so it's not too hard to follow the lua syntax, luckily :)
22:34.30yoshimohid, wasnt there already an addon that included lqh for blizzards unitframes?
22:35.13Hidyoshimo, yes, but I can't for the life of me find it
22:35.22Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.8-1-gd0646e7 Data/Auras.lua: [+1 commit] when gaining a stackable aura, both Trigger-conditions "Aura gain" and "Aura stack gain" are fired (in the aura-hack)
22:35.33HidAnd I assume since it's really REALLY old, it probably won't work anymore
22:35.43HidAltho it would help a lot if I could check that code out of :P
22:35.45Hidofc*
22:36.35HidJust need to know the names of the functions in the blizz code that uses UnitHealth
22:37.03HidIs there anywhere you can check the blizz lua code?
22:38.12yoshimohttp://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/commits/  maybe?
22:38.51HidFound it: http://wowcompares.com/33010958/FrameXML/UnitFrame.lua
22:38.52Hid:)
22:40.38yoshimohid, google cache found http://www.wowace.com/addons/project-13557/
22:40.54yoshimopatch 2-4-3...
22:40.55Hid"Makes pitbull QuickHealth aware"
22:41.05yoshimoBlizz_QuickHealth-r79558.1
22:41.31HidI actually found that one myself, but dismissed it because it said it was for pitbull
22:41.38HidI'll take another look at the code tho, thanks
22:42.08yoshimoi guess he used copy&paste for the several _quickhealth addons ;)
22:42.22HidHoly shit, it actually is for the blizz frames, not pitbull
22:42.36HidSweet. Time to check how much of the code still works ^^
22:44.02yoshimowe had several major patches since then, we had the nasty naxx-release bug with 0hp instead of full, i doubt it works ;)
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22:45.51HidHehe ye, altho it does give me an idea of how to go about hooking into blizz code :)
22:46.02HidA night of trial and error incoming! :P
22:46.10WobWork\o/
22:46.14yoshimoif you have a chance to test it hid, id like to know if the healthupdate still is broken when you die in naxxramas and release your ghost
22:46.34WobWorkBonus points if you commit suicide by Mr Bigglesworth
22:46.35HidThat was fixed in a recent (unofficial) version of LibQuickHealth
22:46.49Hidhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/project-14303/files/18-r21/
22:47.20Hid(by "unofficial" I assume it's a release by someone other than the origial author?)
22:47.41Hidoriginal*
22:48.52yoshimo"recent" *cough*
22:49.04HidWell, 2009-06-12 :D
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22:51.15yoshimohttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=13612&page=9 , also claims that blizzards fastupdate isnt as fast as lqh if i read that correctly
22:51.35HidYeah
22:51.50HidDid you check out the youtube link I gave you?
22:52.08yoshimonot yet, im messing with the ah at the moment
22:52.11HidThere you can see the differences between no fastupdates, fastupdates, and lqh
22:54.04Hidyoshimo, Here's the code I wrote to add support for lqh to shadowed, http://pastebin.ca/1721793
22:54.10Hidyoshimo, If you care to look ^^
22:54.41HidProbably overcojmplicated some things, or just did it "the wrong way", but it seems to work just fine so :)
22:54.52Hids/overcojmplicated/overcomplicated/
22:55.16HidCute.
22:57.23yoshimolibquickhealth-wotlk-edition maybe? ;)
22:57.37Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r222 Rules/Engine.lua: Documentation
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23:09.09HidShadowed, If you got a few minutes spare time, care to take a quick look(like 60 lines of code) and check if I did something really wrong? (SUF_QuickHealth.lua) http://pastebin.ca/1721793
23:13.59Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r223 PersonalNotes/PersonalNotes.lua:
23:14.01RepoFIX: Adding a titled note when no default note is set makes the default note permanently inaccessible.
23:16.07Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r224 HISTORY.txt:
23:16.09RepoFIX: Adding a titled note when no default note is set makes the default note permanently inaccessible.
23:22.55Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r225 .docmeta: Adding .docmeta for LibSchema-1.0
23:28.59Repo10autoroller: 03Mecdemort * r40 / (2 files in 1 directory): Add disenchant support
23:29.50Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6898 Citadel/MG_Trash.lua: Fix bitflag and add flash 'n shake.
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23:33.14GagorianAnyone here been to an IMAX theater? How much more enjoyable are the visuals?
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23:52.46Repo10autoroller: 03Mecdemort * r41 AutoRoller.lua: Add tag 'value' which is the vendor value of an item.
23:52.48RepoCheck to make sure need and greed aren't disabled when trying to roll that on an item.
23:54.57GazsvyazGagorian: its like your normal movie theater is playing youtube videos
23:57.07Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r226 Rules/Rules.lua: Added rule broadcasting logic

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