IRC log for #wowace on 20091219

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00:12.52Hati-EKHi, is it possible to do an "infinite" pattern for spellnames ?
00:13.03Hati-EKwith spaces ofcourse :/
00:13.41Primeryou mean a matching pattern/wildcard?
00:13.43Hati-EK%w+%s*%w* < repeat %s*%w* some times fwork
00:14.07Hati-EKbut it has to be repeative as long as the word can be :/ which would require a static pattern
00:14.27Hati-EKas long as the longest spell in the game (update maybe required after a patch)
00:14.34Primerperhaps if you told us what you were trying to do, we could tell you how to do it correctly
00:15.01Primerinstead of what you're trying to do now, which seems very odd
00:15.05Primeror just not well-explained
00:15.28Hati-EKiam trying to catch the spellname the user wrote in a multiline input field in the config
00:16.18Hati-EKbut for spaces it breaks after %w+ - so a %s* would match a space or none - and so on ... so that i would get the full name without reconstruction after the gsub has finished
00:16.48Hati-EKwon't
00:16.50Hati-EKnot would :x
00:18.24Hati-EKexample: spell(Rune de la gargouille peau de pierre, 0, stance) would require (to match the name) %w+%s*%w*%s*%w*%s*%w*%s*%w*%s*%w*%s*%w*
00:19.04Hati-EKand spell(Tricks of the Trade) would also be matched by %w+%s*%w*%s*%w*%s*%w*%s*%w*%s*%w*%s*%w* - but it is necessary to make such a long pattern ?
00:20.50olafski%w+(%s*%w*)*  doesn't work?
00:20.59olafskijust guessing :<
00:21.14Hati-EKhmm didn't tried
00:21.15Hati-EKnice idea
00:21.31Hati-EKbut i think ( ) will get you an extra output :x
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00:21.56olafskiit will, yes
00:22.02Hati-EKnot working
00:22.04Hati-EK:x
00:22.16olafskidunno how lua regexes work but generally there's a modifier you can use to have a () not give any output
00:22.50olafskianyway gl, I'm off to bed :)
00:22.58Hati-EKty
00:24.30Hati-EK[%s*%w*]*
00:24.31Hati-EK:>
00:24.33Hati-EK^_
00:24.34Hati-EK^
00:25.06Arrowmasterlua does not have regex
00:25.25Hati-EKbut [%s*%w*]* works :>
00:25.41Arrowmaster[%s%w]*
00:25.50Arrowmasterputting * inside the [] is useless
00:25.53Hati-EKkk
00:26.47Hati-EKk works now
00:26.50Hati-EKthanks )
00:26.51Hati-EK:)*
00:28.18Arrowmasterso somebody types "spell(Rune de la gargouille peau de pierre, 0, stance)" into your config and you are trying to match the spell name in that?
00:29.03Hati-EKyup
00:29.15Hati-EKget spellname, number & stance
00:29.17Hati-EKworks fine now
00:29.23Arrowmasterare you matching for the 'spell(' part already?
00:29.27Hati-EK(%w+)%((%w+[%s%w%p]*)%,*(%s*%w*)%,*(%s*%w*)%)*
00:29.29Hati-EKyes
00:29.34Hati-EK4 args returned :)
00:29.58Hati-EKis there a way to exclude a character?
00:30.01Hati-EKlike )
00:30.16Hati-EKit's under %p , but many names have ' which is this too :x
00:31.32Schnaksjust add ' itself to the set instead of %p
00:32.13Arrowmaster(%w+)%(([^,%)]+)([^,%)]*)([^,%)]*)%)+
00:32.23ArrowmasterSchnaks: bad idea
00:33.10Arrowmaster(%w+)%(([^,%)]+),?([^,%)]*),?([^,%)]*)%)+
00:33.16Hati-EKa %(+ would also be possible to check correctness or?
00:33.25Hati-EKso  (%w+)%(+([^,%)]+),?([^,%)]*),?([^,%)]*)%)+
00:33.44Arrowmasterthat would allow multiple ('s
00:33.52Hati-EKi mean ?
00:33.56Hati-EKinstead of + ^^
00:33.59Hati-EKt
00:34.21Arrowmaster* is zero or more
00:34.24Arrowmaster+ is one or more
00:34.33Hati-EKya read on wowwiki
00:34.38Hati-EK? = 0 or 1
00:34.43Arrowmasteryeah
00:34.53Hati-EKnone = definitly 1 right?
00:35.02Arrowmasteryeah
00:35.05Hati-EKk
00:35.35Arrowmasterthat pattern i just gave you would probably require you to run the args through string.trim() before you use them though
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00:42.24Hati-EKhmm
00:43.55Hati-EKah ok
00:44.50Hati-EKhmm i think ppl are clever enough to find failures in misspelled names like Rune       de ...
00:44.57Hati-EK(to much spaces)
00:47.19Primerhrmm, never knew pierre meant stone
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01:08.43leech_Is libsin2.0 still functional? It doesn't seem to have been updated in awhile.
01:08.55leech_^LibSink-2.0
01:16.45orionshockshould still work
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01:31.32Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2472 Core/AtlasLoot.lua: - fix bug with search and droprate
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01:39.10FtH|Daemonaok, either i am a total SFX geek or avatar in 3d was the best movie i saw in cinema since star wars
01:42.01Wobinthat seems to be the prevailing opinion
01:46.39Arrowmasterjust wait until tron next year, 3d and imax
01:47.50GnarfozFtH|Daemona: that awesome? nice.
01:48.12GnarfozFtH|Daemona: what kind of glasses did you get? polarizer filters?
01:48.17FtH|Daemonayup
01:48.22FtH|Daemonapolarized glasses
01:48.50FtH|Daemonawas funny to listen to that girl saying to her boyfriend, lets take the glasses home and watch film xyz on the tv tomorrow in 3d
01:49.01FtH|Daemonai was tempted to tell them that it wont work, but i shut up
01:49.09FtH|Daemonadidnt want to come over as too geeky
01:53.17GnarfozFtH|Daemona: haha, what's your guess... dumb or drunk? ;p
01:53.25FtH|Daemonadumb
01:53.31FtH|Daemonagirl looked cute and sober ;)
01:54.00FtH|Daemonaprobably doesnt know the difference between polarized and red/blue
01:54.35Gnarfozor her left and her right shoe ;p
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02:01.32Primerdammit, still struggling with this POI crap
02:01.47Primerif I right click on a map POI, the icon just vanishes
02:01.51Primerno lua error
02:02.28Hati-EKsetfenv(func, smallenv);
02:02.32Hati-EKops ...
02:03.34Primerugh, same for left click
02:04.45Primerseems something is stepping on it, just don't know what
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02:29.59chiperalright, I need some hardware advice.  figured you guys would be a good source
02:30.18chiperpricing out a new computer that will by and large be used mostely to play WoW
02:30.42chiperbest ram config: 2x4GB, or 4x2GB?
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02:32.02FtH|Daemonago by money / gb
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02:32.11FtH|Daemona4gb modules are way overprized at least here in germany
02:32.26FtH|Daemonaand ask yourself, do you really need 8gb
02:32.29FtH|Daemonaand for what
02:32.47FtH|Daemonai got 8 gb and i yet have to go past 4gb
02:33.09chiperwell this machine will need to last her another two years, so I figured why not
02:33.14NivFreakI did 3x2G
02:33.30NivFreakbecause you need 3 dimms for memory performance w/ i7 iirc
02:33.31FtH|Daemonawell, thats common for i7 NivFreak ;)
02:33.59NivFreakyes
02:34.00NivFreak:P
02:34.06chiperI'm thinking I'm gonna stick with P55 for this build, the X58 boards cost twice as much
02:34.08FtH|Daemonahonestly, buy 2x2gb
02:34.13FtH|Daemonaand if you really need more
02:34.17FtH|Daemonaprices only can go down
02:34.20chiperok, good call
02:36.47FtH|Daemonaover here price per gb for 4gb modules is 38euro, price per gb for 2gb modules is half ;)
02:37.46FtH|Daemonai could get 8g (4x2gb) for ~130, 2x4gb starts at 300
02:45.52RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/visualevent/. VisualEvent. xmE (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
02:54.40Primeralso depends on what OS you're using
02:54.57Primer32 bit windows won't use your 4g of ram
02:55.11Primer> 4g, that is
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02:57.17chiperprimer: I'll be loading win7 64bit on this
02:57.37Primerthen go for the gusto!
02:57.51Primergranted, wow won't use more than 2g for its process
02:57.59Primerbut at least you should get some good fs cache
03:01.05Gnarfozwindows won't use the ram for that, really ;)
03:01.18Primermake a ram drive
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03:01.57Gnarfozor just save yourself some money and stick to 4gb ;p
03:02.15Daemonawin7 64 will definitly prefetch into the spare ram
03:02.19Daemonabut as i said before
03:02.28Daemonai yet have to see use anything more than 4gb ever
03:02.58Gnarfozhm, any way where I could actually see that? i.e. visually?
03:03.07Daemonawhat, visually?
03:03.11Daemonaopen the task manager ;)
03:03.24Gnarfozwhere does that show what it has prefetched?
03:04.07Daemonauuh "Leistung" -> "Im Cache" during boot up I can nicely see in the "resourcenmonitor" how it fills it from the wow mpqs
03:04.15Gnarfozurgh german
03:04.15Gnarfoz:(
03:04.20Daemonayeah sorry -.-
03:04.26GnarfozI'll have a look around
03:04.35Daemonatask manager -> the tab with the cpu load
03:04.36Gnarfoz(ja, ich hab mir 'n englisches win7 gekauft ;P)
03:04.44Daemonalower left physical memory"
03:04.55Gnarfozwell, it says 'cached' there
03:05.07Gnarfozbut in the Resource Monitor, the description for that is "currently unused data or code"
03:05.33Daemonayeah but you can see during bootup how the pre-fetcher fills the ram with stuff and see cached rise and free drop
03:05.35GnarfozI'd have thought it's more like Linux does it: only clear up the RAM if you actually need it, and let whatever was there before rot
03:05.45Gnarfozok, I'll watch for that next time >:)
03:05.48Gnarfozsounds nice
03:06.17Daemonabut nonetheless
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03:06.30Daemonaany 32bit ap is limited to 2gb ram in windows anyway
03:06.44Daemonaso unless you run wow more than twice you dont need more than 4gb ;)
03:07.22GnarfozI'm aware
03:07.29Daemonaas my wow rarely runs over 1gb and i have a 3 years big auctioneer db that if loaded on my auctionhouse alt will create like 200mb addon memory used ;)
03:07.38Gnarfoz(even though it's within Blizzard's capacity to change that)
03:07.52DaemonaGnarfoz same with real multi-threading
03:07.59Daemonaand i doubt it will happen for WoW
03:07.59Gnarfozwell
03:08.02Gnarfozthat's a totally different beast
03:08.15Gnarfozallowing wow to allocate more than 2gb is just a compiler flag
03:08.29Gnarfozmultithreading, phew. ;\
03:08.41Daemonawe had this discussion before
03:08.43Gnarfozanyway, throw more cpu power at it
03:08.43Gnarfoz:D
03:08.58Gnarfozgreat, they're finally clearing our street
03:09.02Gnarfozat 4am
03:09.03Gnarfozwtf
03:09.04Daemonaeven splitting the lua interpreter from wow into a seperate thread probably would boost performance
03:09.15Daemonaproblem is the syncing
03:09.24Daemonaand i guess thats why they didnt do it *armchair*
03:09.28Gnarfozwell, it certainly would, but I have *no* idea whatsoever how tightly it's integrated
03:10.26Daemonaback to the cached stuff.... just reboot, open task manager -> resourcemonitor and go to the tab that shows hdd access, sort by read and you will see the pre-fetcher in action ;)
03:11.51Daemonabut well, 4 am... gn8 everyone
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03:27.50Amadeowhat's that addon that compiles item stats into the inspect window so you can see what people have?
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03:31.33Amadeoor maybe an inspection addon?
03:32.35Repo10chocolatebar: 03yess * r94 / (2 files in 1 directory): fixed the 1 pixel gap at the top.
03:32.37Repodisabled the offset x/y options for now.
03:33.14Megalonwowequip?
03:35.31pompyAmadeo: examiner ?
03:35.45Repo10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r269 / (3 files in 1 directory): Progress on Blizzard quest helper integration.
03:38.45Amadeomaybe it was Examiner
03:48.55Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r170 / (2 files in 1 directory):
03:48.57Repo-implement a lookup table of caster->cooldown bar, save on looping inside the combat log handler
03:56.28Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r171 SMD_Timers.lua:
03:56.30Repo-tweak OnUpdate a little for smoother animation on redirect bar
04:03.44Repo10nanotalk: 03Torhal * r28 / (3 files in 1 directory):
04:03.46RepoCode cleanup and ToC bump for 3.3 since apparently people still use this...
04:07.29Repo10nanotalk: 03Torhal 043.3.0-1.6.1 * r29 : Tagging as 3.3.0-1.6.1
04:07.56Venara@describe nanotalk
04:07.58RepoVenara: http://www.wowace.com/addons/nanotalk/. nanoTalk. nanoTalk tracks people who send you messages and optionally informs them when you are in a conversation. Features Two configu...
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04:20.20Ingelai made a dk and are level 73 now.. i'm liek tanking n shit, any addon i need?
04:20.34Ingelalike "omfg, you just lost aggro on "MobName1", get him asap!" or something?
04:21.43TrelaIngela: I use this addon called the eyes in my head.  Also, the aggro warning option in X-Perl.  Red "AGGRO WARNING" means they are attacking me.  Green fading out warning means they have changed targets.
04:22.09Ingelawhere can i download "the eyes in my head"?
04:22.14Ingelaalso you got osme bot or so that plays for me? :)
04:22.29TrelaFrom your mother.  :P
04:22.33Ingela:D
04:22.45Ingelawas just looking for if there was some addon that helped you tank or so
04:22.47Ingelasince i suck
04:23.13TorhalI can write one for you. It will consist of chat spam along the lines of "L2TANK!"
04:23.19TrelaDeath Knight tanking is simple to keep threat on.  Just make sure to put Death and Decay down initially and assuming the rest of the group are not idiots, the monsters will stay on you.
04:23.33Ingelarofl Torhal
04:24.11Ingelayeah i've read some, i'm frost and got HB glyph, so DnD, HB, then spam BB/Obli and you win :D
04:35.58TrelaMy death knight tank: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Moon Guard&n=Kíssy
04:39.07Ingelalet me guess your favorite mark is moon?
04:39.47Ingelaoh no wait that's the realm
04:39.51Ingelagah stupid US realms!
04:40.14Ingelaphat gear Trela
04:40.17kandarzIngela: use name plates and look for the red outline
04:40.37Ingelaoh is that what the red thing means
04:40.41Ingelaagro
04:40.42kandarzyou have agro
04:40.50Ingela:D
04:40.55TrelaThat is just Trial of Champions gear.
04:41.10Ingelahttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Twilight%27s+Hammer&n=Ingela
04:41.11Ingelamy main
04:41.42kandarzhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/knameplates/ my custom name plate addon changes the agro highlight colors, personally I don't like red on red when I'm tanking
04:41.49TrelaI have too many character.
04:42.38Ingeladefinetly gonna use that one kandarz, thanks
04:42.49Repo10lib-stonegui (experimental): 03zys924 * r2 / (13 files in 1 directory): first try
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05:36.46YssarilTorhal: thanks
05:37.34Yssaril@describe lib-stonegui
05:37.35RepoYssaril: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lib-stonegui/. Stone GUI Library. A Library for creating C#&VB-like GUI for WoW Addons
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06:04.34Yssariltekkub: not sure if you saw it yet http://github.com/tekkub/GnomishVendorShrinker/issues#issue/15
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06:15.07Myrroddinwho antiarc
06:15.15Myrroddinhmmm that didn't work
06:17.42Wobintry /whois
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07:21.13KriLL3blizz, plx for the love of <deity(s)> make the story part of Strat optional, I'm bored out of my mind sitting here listening to emoboy whine about his friends not liking him anymore for the 8~th time since 3.3
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07:29.31steevdon't piss off your tanks people
07:32.48KriLL3nods at steev
07:34.25steevso i'm chain pulling in pit of saron - granted, its tougher than most, but i'm blood so i can heal myself til the healer can catch up
07:34.44steevi step out of one of the room and the healer says "mana" so i stop
07:35.07steevi'm just standing there, and the other dk - who has insisted on every pull to attack a mob that i am not attacking
07:35.20steevstarts ripping into me about how i'm a stupid tank
07:35.45steev"healz are important stupid" "stupid tank" "healerz can heal with no mana"
07:35.56steevamongst his brighter statements
07:36.23KriLL3DKs aren't that bad for me as feral, they almost never pull aggro from me
07:36.25steevso, i... started the next pull and left the party
07:36.43KriLL3the worst are warriors, charge -> bladestorm on group I just fearie fired to pull em back
07:36.45steevKriLL3: oh i could have kept aggro easily
07:37.31KriLL3warrior out there alone on group near other groups and I'm quite some distance away contemplating if I should just /sit or help the stupid warrior about to get feared into 2 more groups
07:37.35steevwhen i've taken the time to mark them though, i'm not about to go pulling off a dps who is acting retarde
07:37.47steevd*
07:37.50KriLL3I mark sometimes, but people just ignore it
07:37.51steevgod i hate this keyboard
07:38.05steevi was marking specifically because of that guy
07:38.33KriLL3those kinds of people don't check marks
07:39.29steevthis is true
07:39.31KriLL3steev: why do warriors feel the need to charge groups I'm clearly pulling?
07:39.42steevKriLL3: so they can try to top the meters
07:39.48KriLL3I got charge myself, if I wanted to fight em where they are I could charge also
07:39.56steevso ask
07:40.13steevthe group previous to that i had a ret pally who insisted on dpsing while standing right next to me
07:40.23KriLL3I have, didn't get anything comprehensible back
07:40.47steevheh
07:41.02KriLL3steev: well it's not as big of an issue with platers in nice gear
07:41.07KriLL3as say a clother
07:41.18steevi asked the guy to dps from the back, he asked why should he dps from the back
07:41.20KriLL3and yes some on of those stand in melee
07:41.25KriLL3heh
07:41.31KriLL3no parry for one
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07:41.40KriLL3and it's easier to see which way the mobs are facing
07:41.44KriLL3and thus who got aggro
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07:44.08KriLL3my personal fav are hunters that pull aggro by shooting what clearly isn't my target, and then expecting me to taunt, since walking backwards and shooting keeps up their DPS while feigning doesn't
07:44.21KriLL3and then expect me to taunt a second time
07:44.26KriLL3before it's cooldown is done
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07:52.06Repo10pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r90 / (21 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
07:52.09Repo- Added ability for filters to become exceptions to a rule.  Not all filters can become an exception.
07:52.09Repo- Fix edit boxes in the DropDown menu boxes of some filters to hide properly.
07:52.11Repo- LearnedItem filter: Scan more lines for the 'Already known' text.
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08:15.54Repo10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r28 / (4 files in 2 directories):
08:15.56Repomany whelps, handled! typo fixed, updated enUS, ticket #6 still eluding me. will work on it later
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08:28.08kandarzhow do I add a frame to be closed by the escape key when the frame doesn't have a name? ie a container from AceGUI
08:30.12Yssarilkandarz: it doesnt need to be named but it needs to have a global reference and that reference needs to be added to that special table
08:30.43KriLL3is there a tool of some sort that lets you figure out which addon causes momentary slowdowns on a semi regular basis?
08:31.01KriLL3other than doing the old en/disable em in groups thiing
08:31.27Yssarilkandarz: _G['YssDropFrame'] = frame; tinsert(UISpecialFrames,"YssDropFrame") is esentially what i use in YssDrop
08:32.18YssarilKriLL3: you could get a CPU profiling addon like http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7324-OptionHouse.html
08:33.05Yssariljust FYI when you turn on CPU profiling your CPU usage goes WAY up all around but you can see what uses the most and what spikes etc
08:33.15KriLL3kk
08:33.29Yssarilmake sure you turn cpu profiling off afterwards :P
08:33.34KriLL3I'll enable it, and let it sit there until an addon makes a bo-bo
08:34.21KriLL3funny really, wow uses very little CPU for me, on my 3.2Ghz C2Q but I still get performance drops
08:35.21kandarzYssaril: I'll see if it works
08:35.43Yssarilkandarz: it does (for me at least)
08:36.12kandarzworks like a charm, thanks
08:36.17Yssarilkandarz: just make sure you never release the AceGUI container back into AceGUI just keep reusing it
08:36.46kandarzyeah, the window is never released, tab containers are but the main window is never released
08:38.40Yssarilyou should be fine then :) (though there are ways to do that and being able to relase it basically whenever you release you change the reference to your globalreference to a dummy frame and than abck to the AceGUI frame when you get a new one)
08:39.00kandarzsounds like too much work
08:39.36Yssarilagreed but might come in handy some day :)
08:42.36Myrrodding'night folks
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09:40.52orionshockmorning all
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09:44.56yoshimowhich files contain the width&height of a zone in wow?
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10:01.30kandarzyou mean like Astrolabe?
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10:02.10kandarzyoshimo: you mean like Astrolabe?
10:02.53kandarzHow can I loop through ... to concatenate it into a single string?
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10:21.59Repo10tier-tooltip: 03ThiefMaster * r37 / (2 files in 1 directory): * Add T10 sets
10:22.01Repo* Use more common T9 names (9, 9.25, 9.5 instead of 9, 9.5, 9.75)
10:22.22yoshimokandarz, astrolabe needs to get its data from somewhere, and the game client also needs to know , so some files in the mpqs contain the seize as well
10:22.57Repo10tier-tooltip: 03ThiefMaster 04v1.4 * r38 : Tagging as v1.4
10:23.40kandarzI understand, I just don't know that specific of an answer.
10:25.01yoshimoalso im not sure if astrolabe has data for instances
10:28.22kandarzWell the distances are (as far as I know) calculated on X,Y from the World map, and all instances < Wrath don't have maps, so no way to get distance
10:29.33yoshimothat doesnt matter
10:31.17TrelaYou have to extra the MPQ files and then read the map files.  WoW Map Viewer probably has it documented in the source some where.
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10:33.25KriLL3what does "CPU" mean in Option House compared to CPU/Sec?
10:33.53[Ammo]total used
10:35.10yoshimotrela,  which filetype do i need? thats the "real " question?  i can extract mpqs
10:35.18KriLL3"ace3" uses a boatload
10:35.25TrelaDo you have Mac OS X?
10:35.31TrelaWait.
10:35.44Trelabrain desks.
10:36.11KriLL3weird, POWA uses a lot also, even though it's not displaying anything atm
10:36.25[Ammo]KriLL3: that's because Ace3 gets blamed for all the usage of event timer etc
10:36.42[Ammo]simply because the addons using ace3 well, they use ace3 :p
10:36.47KriLL3ah
10:37.03KriLL3tomtom also uses a boatload of CPU and it's not even in use
10:37.51Trelayoshimo: This will take a bit for my to extract the MPQ to get the exact file.
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10:44.28KriLL3why does tomtom use a boatload of CPU when it isn't even in use?
10:44.41KriLL3no waypoint, no arrow, no nothing atm, uses 20% CPU
10:45.25Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2473 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update
10:48.39Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2474 Menus/RepMenus.lua: Ashen Verdict use BabbleFaction
10:50.18Trelayoshimo: Having a brain fart.  I know the files are in here.
10:53.11KriLL3jnwhiteh: why is tomtom reported as using 20% CPU even if it's idle with no waypoint/arrow shown?
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11:07.14quiescenso.o
11:07.22quiescensa wizard did it
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11:28.20[SW]Dodgesomeone knows if there is something like http://php.net/simplexml_load_string for lua?
11:29.06sb|workShadowed: sexygroup should remember people who vote-kicked you out :o
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11:42.55yoshimosb|work , there is probably a good reason to kick someone ;)
11:46.12sb|workwell
11:47.17KriLL3and doesn't everyone but you have to agree on the kick?
11:48.31sb|worki think so
11:48.39sb|workthey kicked me anyways... :o
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11:48.52KriLL3what role?
11:48.53sb|workankahet
11:48.54sb|worktank
11:49.18sb|workbecause i wanted to skip unnecessary bosses
11:50.14miicais there somekind kick option nowdays?
11:50.52sb|workyup
11:51.08miicacool
11:51.44miicaneed to get +3 wow account and i can make grps in xmas time and kick peoples and they feel sad when they think they were naabs :D
11:51.51miicaeven it was one single person who kicked :3
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11:53.58orionshocksb|work: will of the people... tsol ?
11:56.19sb|workorionshock: tsol? :o
11:56.25orionshock~tsol
11:56.30miicaorionshock <3
11:56.42orionshockeh.. usually purl tells you what that means.
11:56.52orionshockpurl, tsol is Tough shit out of luck
11:56.53purlorionshock: please, watch your language.
11:57.05orionshockwell i guess that's why it's not in there.
11:57.50sb|workhum :o
12:06.35Mikkpurl, tsol is Tough Sh*t Outta Luck
12:06.36purlokay, Mikk
12:07.24Mikkhahahahahaha kicking the tank
12:07.29Mikktank gets new group in <5 seconds
12:07.32Mikkthey wait for another half hour
12:07.44Mikkhmmm I WONDER WHICH ONE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THEM MORE BADGES PER HOUR
12:07.54orionshockreally the only person that can argue with a tank is the healer...
12:08.03Mikknot really
12:08.10Mikkhealers wait for groups too - at least in my battlegroup
12:08.16Mikktank is queue -> click enter
12:08.22SunTsuHm, Mikk yeah, they do
12:08.36orionshocktrue, but healers have more rank than a dps
12:09.29KriLL3orionshock: is that why some of them prefer to heal me with a big long cast when I got 5k~ left of my 52k~ ?
12:09.29Groktarwtb 20 expertise gem
12:09.31Groktar:(
12:09.38sztanpetthere is a 15min random group finder penalty that doesnt disappear when kicked afaik
12:10.14KriLL3well you can't be kicked right at the start
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12:10.44KriLL3so you can't kick that one idiot that doesn't join
12:10.56Groktarwell, it times out after a minute or so
12:11.19Groktari think it's hilarious when i get occulus
12:11.25KriLL3is water walking unreliable for anyone else? using the pots from fishing and I randomly fall through the water
12:11.29Groktarand people start leaving
12:11.50Groktar"oh hell no" "terribad has left the group" "mouthbreather has left the group"
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12:12.18Groktarone time two people left, and then of the new two people that came in another one left
12:12.47KriLL3it's actually fast now
12:12.59Groktaryeah, the worst part about it before was flying out there
12:13.03Groktarnow it's just kinda lame
12:13.19KriLL3it's a bit broken in places
12:13.41KriLL3like second boss' pet dragon staying around to kill you after the boss is dead
12:14.05Groktarhmm
12:14.23KriLL3and last boss feels very random
12:14.44Groktarnot random at all
12:14.52Groktarjust get someone on a green dargon that's not a moron
12:15.00KriLL3well I'm always ruby, and I can't quite figure out the evasion thing
12:15.12KriLL3seems to have a very short duration or something
12:15.37KriLL3and the whelps are a bit confusing
12:17.14Groktarreally doesn't matter that much
12:17.25Groktarjust get someone on a green one that's not dumb
12:17.35Groktarand don't get hit by pink balls
12:17.37Groktarprofit
12:18.34KriLL3yeah I don't get hit by those, though I tend to have to fly a while after to get back to boss
12:19.53Groktaryou can kinda fly in circles
12:19.58Groktardon't need to fly directly away
12:20.17KriLL3circle strafe =P
12:20.21Groktarye
12:20.32Groktarlike, you can't dps when the balls are out
12:20.35Groktarso it's not a huge deal
12:20.43Groktarbut there's no reason to end up 200 yards away
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12:28.51Mikkskip green drake
12:28.53Mikkput healer on the ground
12:28.54Mikkwin
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12:38.09Groktartrying to sell ginvites for gold
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12:38.11Groktarnot working
12:38.12Groktar:(
12:38.46Funkeh`morning
12:39.47GroktarFunkeh`
12:39.50Groktargold for ops?
12:40.07Groktari want to lord it over KriLL3
12:40.10Groktar^_^
12:40.51*** mode/#wowace [+v Groktar] by Funkeh`
12:41.08Groktarmm thanks
12:41.16*** mode/#wowace [-v Groktar] by Funkeh`
12:41.25Groktar:(
12:41.32Groktaroffers ten golds
12:44.24Groktarthis guy in my guild has waaay too much free time
12:44.25Groktarhttp://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8089/wowscrnshot121809182527.jpg
12:51.39orionshockGroktar: wtf are they?
12:55.03Yivryfish I think
12:55.14Yivryno arrows :P
12:56.02miicafish?
12:56.08miicalol icon
12:56.16KriLL3it's sword fish you use as arrows silly
12:56.27miicaoh :D
12:56.30miicacan you eat them?
12:56.45KriLL3only if you want to die horribly
12:56.56miicait lest you kill yourself? :O
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12:58.29airtonixsee the chat log in that screenshot
12:58.43airtonixsterling confidence
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13:44.46Funkeh`[Ammo], someone was moaning that druid res is 20min in ora where as it's 10min now were they just out of date?
13:48.18yoshimoi think the cooldowns have been fixed in both ora2&3
13:49.29Funkeh`prob not released then i guess
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14:04.58yoshimorev 286 in ora3 and 671+ in ora2, no release can be found since then
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14:28.01Repoteleportation items cooldowns visible in tooltip now, can be turned off tho!
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15:58.09KnaledgeHey Kael/anyone for Mac dev (CC)
15:58.17KnaledgeIs there any way to enable alpha revision ?
15:58.37KnaledgeOn Windows you can designate the client to pull down alpha commits but on Mac v4, you cannot.
15:59.21Ingelagrulic, wtb "you have waited 1min and 30sec" or something :)
15:59.38Groktardeclares himself supreme ruler of the universe
15:59.45Ingelagrgz!
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16:03.28KnaledgeANyone use Adium for IRC?
16:05.03yoshimoGroktar, how are you related to Algalon then? ;)
16:05.36Stanzillalicks Funkeh`
16:05.50Funkeh`yeah?
16:06.53Stanzillayeah!
16:08.03Funkeh`don't ping me unless you're telling me something -.-
16:08.51Stanzillayou don't want my love? ok :(
16:09.44Repo10basic-chat-mods: 03funkydude * r162 BasicChatMods.toc: bump toc
16:10.15Funkeh`Stanzilla, i want your love, but not your diseases
16:12.25Stanzilla:{
16:25.21Repo10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r97 portals.lua: introduced a bug in last commit :(
16:31.39Repo10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r98 portals.lua: better looking tooltip
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16:49.25KriLL3how do DKs heal themselves back from near dead to full hp multiple times a fight?
16:49.39KriLL3and they got some green bubble that makes em immune to physical harm or something
16:49.47Lysitheadeath strike, sacrifice their ghoul
16:49.54Lysitheagreen bubble is magic immunity
16:50.03KriLL3well I hit and it says "immune"
16:50.09Lysitheawhich part
16:50.11KriLL3is that infected wounds?
16:50.16Lysitheaprobably yes
16:50.27Lysitheasince it's magic disease
16:50.38KriLL3had a really weird DK encounter, he healed for more than I could hurt him
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16:51.06KriLL3white helmet with a blue skull, no idea which gear that is
16:57.00KriLL3errm, how can warriors shield slam for 7k dmg?
16:59.58Repo10broker_lfd: 03ulic * r23 Broker_LFD.lua: Added 2 more events to help ensure the minimap icon hides
17:02.05quiescens7k non crit>
17:02.06quiescens?
17:05.16KriLL3think so, says nothing about crit
17:05.53ShadowedTuller: You messed up Let It Snow's link in your poll :p
17:05.57Shadowed"http://www.wowinterface.com/download...LetItSnow.html"
17:07.12Tulleryou know, I cannot edit the poll, either :P
17:07.18KriLL3only way to get sha la la orgila which is part of merrymaker is to do that quest that requires 5 people to stand in a circle to summon a guy right?
17:07.40Shadowedhmm
17:07.45ShadowedWait to fail then!
17:07.57Shadoweds/Wait/Way/
17:08.01KriLL3grim(oir)re business or something like that
17:08.15ShadowedWonder if a mod can
17:09.12Shadowedprods Torhal
17:09.23StanzillaTuller: http://pastey.net/130389 :)
17:10.40Tullerfixed, in theory
17:10.49Tulleryou have attack on your bar? :P
17:11.39Stanzillasomewhere maybe
17:11.42Stanzillahidden or so :D
17:12.07Tullerthat's also the part i'm not sure if it works yet or not
17:12.43Tullerbasically I killed off any actionbutton:OnUpdates and replaced with a global handler
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17:27.50CrazyBenny_KriLL3: correct, you have to get attuned to the Ogrila dailys
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17:34.34Mikkit's a 5-10 quest chain
17:34.42Mikkstarting from the ogre in lower city
17:34.51Mikkmight not be available until 70 but unsure
17:36.29Adremmathe one that used to require 5 (or fewer, if you glitched it) people to stand in circles doesn't anymore anyway, standing in 1 circle summons him now
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17:42.28Repo10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak * r68 HandyNotes_Trainers.toc: repackage with zhTW update by andy52005. Thank you!
17:42.31RepoThis will allow HandyNotes_Trainers to detect class trainers in zhTW client ;-)
17:44.14Repo10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak 04v1.2.5 Release * r69 :
17:44.16RepoTagging as v1.2.5 Release. Repackage with zhTW update by andy52005. Thank you!
17:44.23RepoThis will allow HandyNotes_Trainers to detect class trainers in zhTW client ;-)
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17:47.09jnwhitehKriLL3: I dont' now, and don't much care atm
17:47.35jnwhiteh=)
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17:48.18jnwhitehbut I'll try to take a look at it
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17:51.10KriLL3jnwhiteh: kk, also a suggestion: scale the tomtom waypoints on the worldmap relatively larger when the quest objectives are shown (thus shrinking the map & the waypoints) should be some % where the waypoints are the same subjective scale in both modes
17:51.26jnwhitehI won't have much chance to mess with shit like that for a bit
17:51.28jnwhitehgoing on holiday
17:51.33KriLL3ofc
17:51.48KriLL3not suggesting you'd spend your holiday satisfying my whims ;)
17:53.48KriLL3I'll make that suggestion a ticket
17:56.32jnwhiteh=)
17:56.39jnwhitehi need to rework my priorities come Jan
17:56.57jnwhitehbut having a bizarre disease and havign to undergo treatment may not bode well for my addon dev time
17:56.57jnwhitehhe
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17:59.09KriLL3jnwhiteh: what do you got?
17:59.47jnwhitehA benign tumor on my pituitary gland
18:00.49jnwhitehbut it's fucking with my system quite a bit =)
18:00.51Tullerwasn't that on house?
18:00.58jnwhitehprobably
18:02.28KriLL3jnwhiteh: ouch, my best wishes
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18:03.34jnwhitehthank you sir, I'm in one of the best places in the world for it =)
18:17.23KnaledgeFor the Mac Curse Client (v4) - is there any way to tell it to pull down alpha commits?
18:17.32Knaledgeyou can on Windows but cannot on Mac it seems
18:18.57KriLL3is there a way to kill the quest objective sidebar and bottom in mapster yet?
18:23.24Repo10prefix-hunter (experimental): 03yoshimo * r4 Prefix-Hunter.lua: added MessageBoard to the list of known prefixes
18:25.38SilowyiShadowed, if you're here
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18:25.59Silowyiis there an easy way to increase the size of the health bars in your unit frames relative to the mana bars
18:26.15SilowyiI'd prefer the health bars slightly larger
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19:24.57ckknightwhat's the best addon for figuring out DPS and such in a raid? Recount?
19:26.19FiskerSkada!
19:26.41Fiskerin b4 gkick btw
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19:38.55Repo10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak * r70 / (3 files in 2 directories): added translations for all Professions...
19:38.57Repothis will help update the icons more easily on non-en_US locales
19:38.58Repoit is also required for the upcoming Filtering feature ;-)
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19:41.53Repo10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak 04v1.2.9 Beta * r71 :
19:41.56RepoTagging as v1.2.9 Beta. Added localization support for professions.
19:41.56RepoLOOKING FOR TRANSLATORS:
19:41.57RepoPlease translate the profession names using WowAce Localization tool ( http://www.wowace.com/addons/handy-notes_trainers/localization/ ) - doing so will enable you to see the proper icons for each trainer ;-)
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20:01.49yoshimorecount, skada, do we have something else?
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20:03.14Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r172 SMD_Timers.lua: -hopefully fix the nil index error on Readiness
20:04.43mitchnullyoshimo: violation? dunno if that still works or not
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20:18.38CrazyBenny_it still works
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20:59.09Repo10magealert: 03trent2 * r50 magealert.lua: 3.3 compatibility
20:59.51Repo10magealert: 03trent2 * r51 magealert.toc: 3.3 compatibility
21:00.07Repo10magealert: 03trent2 * r52 magealert.xml: 3.3 compatibility
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21:08.34asmodaiJesus, Resident Evil as a movie is quite bad if you don't know the games at all.
21:08.56asmodaickknight: Yeah, recount is the #1 for that nowadays
21:09.35yoshimowasnt skada programmed to be fast memory efficient and better than recount?
21:10.17ShadowedYes because memory efficient is a metric of performance
21:10.49Fiskerslaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout
21:11.14asmodaifast, memory efficient and better, pick 2
21:11.41Fiskerherro asmodai
21:11.43Fiskeri farted
21:11.48asmodaiDid you inhale?
21:12.11ShadowedCPU, Memory, Well Written
21:12.15Shadowed:>
21:13.04asmodai*grin*
21:13.51ShadowedActually let me correct that
21:13.58ShadowedCPU, Memory, Modular, Well Written
21:14.02ShadowedGuess which two people pick the most
21:14.24Fiskerall of it asmodai
21:14.30asmodaimodular and, mmm, cpu?
21:14.49Shadowedmemory and modular!
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21:33.41SilowyiWhat I care about is CPU and well-written
21:34.01ShadowedEh they are all interlinked
21:34.11ShadowedGenerally you use more CPU to use less memory, you use more memory to use less CPU
21:34.17Shadowedbetter written code uses more of both
21:34.39SilowyiI think OmniCC is killing me in ICC
21:34.40Shadowedand modularity adds cpu and memory
21:34.52Shadowedor if it's badly done modularity, it rapes CPU and memory
21:35.02SilowyiI use a lot of mods, and I've been trying to track down which one it is that causes me to lag to hell every time a shaman drops a totem in 25 man raids
21:36.08Silowyiis there a way to see everything that's registering for a specific event?
21:36.34ckknightI need a better way to set raid target icons
21:36.40ckknightany addons that help with that?
21:37.15Silowyievery time someone buffs the whole raid (fort,shadow,etc...) or shaman totems :P
21:37.27SilowyiI get a half second lag pulse
21:40.15Tullerdun dun dun
21:40.26Silowyinope, not omnicc
21:40.39Tulleram I that intimidating? :P
21:43.26Silowyiare you the author of omnicc?
21:43.30Silowyiwell
21:43.44asmodaickknight: magicmarker?
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21:45.10ckknighthow is LuckyCharms?
21:46.00Tulleryep
21:47.01nevcairiel*yawn*
21:47.57ShadowedI doubt it would be OmniCC anyway
21:48.43Tullerwell, omnicc always appears to use a lot of CPU, and I've gotten two posts complaining about FPS issues before
21:48.53Shadowedwell you suck stop making bad mods
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21:51.06FiskerYou wouldn't implement a feature nevcairiel
21:51.29nevcairieli wasnt even here for two days!
21:55.08nevcairielbut i finally assembled my new system after i got back, all is well now =)
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22:06.18Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.1.2b-1-gc502cec Data/LootData.lua: [+1 commit] reran miner we now have drop percentages for Falric, Bronjahm, Devourer of Souls, Krick and Ick, Scourgelord Tyrannus, Gunship Battle, Lady Deathwisper, Lord Marrowgar (Saurfangs loot is AWOL though) (accuracy will vary though due to small sample size)
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22:15.08AntiarcTorchlight is :tenbux: this weekend on Steam
22:15.09AntiarcJust FYI
22:15.20Fisker:tenbux: :3
22:16.21AntiarcAlso, I get my megahax trinket today, yay
22:20.48Silowyihow good is torchlight?
22:20.53Yssarili liked it
22:21.33Tullerits worth the $10 price on steam
22:21.44Yssarilyep
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22:31.16nevcairielmmmm fps at vsync in dalaran, new cpu is nice :d
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22:33.08yoshimoif i remember correctly youre in germany as well, and i doubt that 23:31 on a saturday night, is a good test for hardware ;)
22:33.20nevcairieldalaran is always full of people
22:33.42nevcairieleven on saturdays
22:34.05yoshimoyes but i think there could be more people at a different time
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22:34.40Repo10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r58 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag 2.0.8 for changeset c138807bdb9a
22:34.42Repoadded preliminary support for storing Boss Mod versions by listening in on their addon channel chatter...
22:34.43Repofixed ADDON_LOADED being called numerous times during startup...
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22:42.43Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r237 / (7 files in 2 directories):
22:42.45Repo- adding Korean (koKR) and Traditional Chinese (zhTW) localizations :)
22:42.46Repo- added Icecrown gunship battle
22:42.59Repo10passloot_atlasloot: 03Odlaw * r5 / (3 files in 1 directory):
22:43.02RepoUpdated for new functions in AtlasLoot.  You can now select which WishLists to match.  This requires version 5.09.02 of AtlasLoot
22:43.39Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.55 * r238 : Tagging as 2.2.55
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22:55.12onaforeignshoreI am getting: 1x guilder-2.0.8\Guilder.lua:833: cannot use '...' outside a vararg function near '...' --- and the line is: local msg = self:Serialize(mod, ...)
22:55.17onaforeignshoreanyone have any idea why?
22:55.43onaforeignshorefunction is declared as: function Guilder:SendComm(mod, distribution, target, ...)
22:56.38Yssarilonaforeignshore: pastey your code and link to that
22:56.41onaforeignshorenever mind - think I found the problem
22:56.55onaforeignshore<PROTECTED>
22:59.33Repo10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r60 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag 2.0.9 for changeset 4bc26622791f
22:59.35Repofixed --@end-debug in stead of --@end-debug@
23:02.41Mikkmmmmmno pretty sure you need both
23:04.10Repo10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu 0430300-1-Release * r178 : Tagging as 30300-1-Release
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23:07.29Repolocale problems
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