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| 00:02.23 | Repo | 10broker_lfd: 03ulic * r19 Broker_LFD.lua: |
| 00:02.25 | Repo | When not in a queue, left-click opens LFD, right-click opens LFR |
| 00:03.19 | Lyntz | #Ensidia |
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| 00:05.57 | Silowyi | Hey Shadowed, I restarted my computer and reloaded wow and now all my unit frames have moved down a few inches, and the player unit frame moved about an inch to the right, any ideas? |
| 00:06.07 | Silowyi | I should say relogged in, not reloaded |
| 00:11.43 | Gnarfoz | did you restart wow? did you update SUF in the meantime? |
| 00:11.53 | Gnarfoz | some time recently, there was a change that changed the positioning |
| 00:12.18 | Silowyi | well the odd thing is it shows up correctly if I "unlock" |
| 00:12.27 | Silowyi | I just moved everything back and it seemed to stick |
| 00:12.56 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6882 Citadel/Deathwhisper.lua: Citadel/Deathwhisper: Added some extra Death n Decay Id's |
| 00:15.04 | Silowyi | curse client might have grabbed an update while I restarted |
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| 00:15.47 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.6-7-g86557d4 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 00:15.50 | Repo | 86557d4: update changelog |
| 00:15.51 | Repo | 46b768b: reorder options in throttle-config |
| 00:15.52 | Repo | febd9e0: add throttle for Reputation gains |
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| 00:20.31 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.0.3-18-gf6ef63f modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 00:20.32 | Repo | f6ef63f: Changed movers to calculate using uiScale CVar rather than effective scale |
| 00:20.34 | Repo | 05113ef: Switched to checking GetCVar("uiScale") to calculate effective scaling due to changes in when frames load |
| 00:21.42 | Gnarfoz | augh uiscale time |
| 00:21.54 | Gnarfoz | that change will rip apart any existing layout, won't it? :\ |
| 00:21.59 | Shadowed | no it won't |
| 00:22.06 | Shadowed | There's no actual change |
| 00:22.28 | Antiarc | Shadowed: UIParent:GetScale() doesn't work during startup? |
| 00:22.33 | Shadowed | nope |
| 00:22.39 | Antiarc | Huh. Also good to know. |
| 00:23.12 | Shadowed | Effective scale information isn't available until PEW if I remember right |
| 00:23.23 | Daemona | hmm does the dungeon finder play a sound when you are prompted to join a LFG group? |
| 00:23.28 | Shadowed | so you have to use frame:GetScale() * GetCVar("uiScale") |
| 00:23.30 | Antiarc | yes |
| 00:23.33 | Daemona | i guess i deactivated just one thing too much |
| 00:23.34 | Antiarc | It plays the ready check sound |
| 00:24.03 | Daemona | hmmhmm |
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| 00:24.26 | Primer | Amazing to see some addons with tens of thousands of downloads since the patch...then mine with...about 100 :) |
| 00:24.32 | Gnarfoz | and the readycheck sound changed |
| 00:24.43 | Gnarfoz | to an annoyingly unnoticable chime |
| 00:24.46 | Primer | Gnarfoz: yeah, I'd love to revert that |
| 00:24.50 | Shadowed | oh yea Antiarc, the users.lua has a table setup for storing data from scans |
| 00:24.56 | Shadowed | if you didn't see it |
| 00:24.58 | Primer | yeah, I've missed so many readychecks it's not even funny |
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| 00:26.23 | Xtek | Heyo. |
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| 00:26.54 | Antiarc | Shadowed: thanks. Sorry, been busy with paying work today. |
| 00:26.58 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.0.3-19-gedd62ce modules/runes.lua: [+1 commit] Added fallback in case the rune type is not returned for coloring |
| 00:27.12 | Shadowed | Yea no rush, I've been doing misc mods anyway |
| 00:27.24 | Shadowed | just remembered I never mentioned the test stuff to you |
| 00:30.47 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.0.3-20-ge268923 modules/runes.lua: [+1 commit] Always fun when a bug pops up accidentally after you thought you fixed it, moved rune coloring to PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD to fix issues where rune type would randomly not be returned |
| 00:31.44 | Shadowed | And now to wait, as 20 more things break due to load order changes |
| 00:33.15 | Hirsute | mental note: don't update to an alpha release of SUF just now |
| 00:33.24 | Shadowed | I wouldn't usually update to alpha versions |
| 00:33.32 | Shadowed | unless you actually wanted to get bugs fixed before release |
| 00:34.50 | Shadowed | Generally I rewrite lots of things between SUF versions |
| 00:36.49 | Hirsute | *nod* I'm pretty sure I'm just running the release versions of SUF. |
| 00:37.51 | Hirsute | Was having weird issues with it the other day, where the Main Tank target frames weren't clearing when they changed targets, so it ended up looking pretty jumbled, but I haven't had a chance to raid again since to play with it. |
| 00:39.52 | Shadowed | Yea if you have two MTs, A and B, B targets someone and you remove the MT assignment on A the frames get jumbled |
| 00:40.00 | Shadowed | that was fixed today |
| 00:40.10 | Shadowed | But till I have more testing on everything I can't release it :p |
| 00:40.54 | Primer | Gnarfoz: wouldn't reverting the readycheck sound be as simple as placing the old sound into a file and dropping it in Data/something? |
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| 00:41.57 | Primer | pretty sure I did that with train sounds |
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| 00:53.08 | Myrroddin | greetings people |
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| 01:13.45 | Primer | Anyone aware of a MSBT config issue? As in, I can't configure it, as nothing is clickable, and many elements are just text, and not input fields or drop downs? |
| 01:14.03 | Belazor | Primer: same |
| 01:14.20 | Primer | Belazor: no lua errors either |
| 01:14.26 | Belazor | nope |
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| 01:20.19 | Primer | looks like I'm stealing some more TomTom code for my addon |
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| 01:36.39 | Primer | Watching my kid play over vnc again...he's aggroing guards in Thrallmar at 62... |
| 01:36.42 | Primer | wtf |
| 01:36.56 | Primer | I guess he feels a bit over confident |
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| 01:37.31 | Belazor | beat him! you dont want n00bs in your family! xP |
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| 01:37.39 | Primer | I see...he's trying to gank someone |
| 01:37.47 | Primer | little punk |
| 01:39.41 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r264 FlightHUD.lua: Initial support for POI integration. |
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| 01:41.21 | Primer | Belazor: he's been helping level this druid. Feral DPS spec and gear, but we tank random instances as it takes no-time to get into a group as a tank. He groups his fingers together and hits keys 2-5 at the same time |
| 01:42.02 | Primer | it's so funny to watch, as he does a fairly good job |
| 01:42.05 | Belazor | lmao nice |
| 01:42.26 | Primer | he's 11 |
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| 01:43.59 | Belazor | Oh so you are breakin the law by letting him play :O |
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| 01:49.14 | Primer | How so? |
| 01:49.30 | Belazor | says 12+ on the box :p |
| 01:49.55 | Primer | that's just a recommendation, but I'm sure you know this and are attempting to troll me, badly |
| 01:50.03 | Primer | hehe |
| 01:50.03 | Primer | Soooo |
| 01:50.13 | Primer | I know I've asked this before, but for the life of me I can't remember |
| 01:50.16 | Belazor | XD yeah I am |
| 01:50.32 | quiescens | ratings tend to be for "without parental consent" anyway |
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| 01:50.55 | Primer | I need to figure out how to get the spellIDs of auras so I can add them to a list of auras I look for which are know to be specific mounts |
| 01:51.11 | Belazor | 'sides, Im sure the kid of a gamer like Primer is going to be touch enough to see orcs getting killed with fire :p |
| 01:51.20 | Primer | basically I'm doing this: |
| 01:51.23 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.23 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.40 | Primer | and I have such things as: |
| 01:51.51 | Primer | local nonCompanionFlyingMounts = { |
| 01:51.52 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.27 | Primer | So I've been told that my addon doesn't display the HUD when using the Dragonmaw Illusion, the Reindeer from the Ogrila daily, etc |
| 01:53.18 | Primer | Is there any way to get these numbers from the game while I have the aura? |
| 01:53.28 | quiescens | probably |
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| 01:57.21 | Balreign | Primer, you could just check if you have this aura and then try an if IsFlying() then i |
| 01:57.27 | Balreign | I guess* |
| 01:57.44 | Primer | except IsFlying() only triggers if you're actually flying |
| 01:57.57 | Primer | being on a flying mount on the ground ~= IsFlying() |
| 01:58.09 | Primer | and that's undesirable to me |
| 01:58.09 | Balreign | yep |
| 01:58.40 | quiescens | run through their buffs using UnitBuff until you find the one you're looking for and look at the last returned value to get the spellid |
| 01:58.46 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r18 / (4 files in 2 directories): more copy/paste errors |
| 01:59.48 | Primer | quiescens: hrmm, is this new in 3.3? |
| 01:59.48 | Primer | I don't recall there being a spellid returned |
| 02:00.54 | Primer | now to head to SMV to test... |
| 02:03.48 | arkanes_ | !api Quest |
| 02:03.48 | lua_bot | Found 155 possible matches for 'Quest'. Please be more specific |
| 02:03.53 | arkanes_ | !api QuestReward |
| 02:03.53 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'QuestReward': GetQuestReward, GameTooltip:SetQuestRewardSpell, GetNumQuestRewards |
| 02:08.02 | Primer | ohh nice |
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| 02:12.58 | Primer | hrmm, I wonder if these poiButton lua errors are coming from TomTom |
| 02:20.56 | arkanes_ | Primer: you should be able to look the spell id up on wowhead |
| 02:22.05 | arkanes_ | dragonmaw illusion appears to be one or more of 40214, 40215, 40216 |
| 02:22.24 | Primer | yeah, I was able to just use UnitBuff |
| 02:22.29 | Primer | I wrote a little macro |
| 02:22.34 | Repo | 10broker_lfd: 03ulic * r20 Broker_LFD.lua: Make the Right-Click for LFR work |
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| 02:24.22 | Primer | the actual drake is 40212 |
| 02:24.42 | Primer | and considering you have to have epic flying to even get the chain, I'm guessing that's the only one |
| 02:28.46 | Primer | hrmm, never checked to see if GetSpellInfo in this returned nil: if (UnitBuff ("player", GetSpellInfo(nonCompanionGroundMounts[i]))) then |
| 02:29.02 | Primer | Seems I now need to get the spellid for the Ogrila reindeer |
| 02:29.11 | Primer | not sure how far I got into doing those dailies |
| 02:29.17 | arkanes_ | it's not a special reindeer |
| 02:29.18 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r709 Icecrown/Grand_Champions.lua: Trial not Trail of the Champion |
| 02:29.28 | arkanes_ | it's just the one from the holly buff |
| 02:29.31 | Primer | Got it working for the dragonmaw nether drake though |
| 02:29.41 | Primer | hrmm, I don't have any of that one me |
| 02:29.46 | Primer | ahh but my priest does |
| 02:30.22 | Primer | had that crap since last Winter Veil |
| 02:30.30 | Primer | hate seasonal stuff |
| 02:30.53 | quiescens | if you hated it you would just throw it out o.o |
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| 02:37.51 | Primer | well, I'm also a packrat :) |
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| 02:42.26 | synthetic | hey everyone |
| 02:42.35 | synthetic | im in the process of cleaning up my UI |
| 02:42.51 | synthetic | and I noticed pitbull 4 does not have any strata options |
| 02:43.26 | quiescens | gasp |
| 02:43.40 | synthetic | this is problematic because i like using the default combat text and sometimes (a heal crit ect) just tip over into my pitbull frame |
| 02:43.53 | synthetic | is there anyway i can increase the strata of the default combat text? |
| 02:44.23 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r265 / (3 files in 1 directory): Updated deDE locale. |
| 02:44.25 | Repo | Added Dragonmaw Nether Drake, Reindeer, and Flying Reindeer. |
| 02:45.40 | synthetic | ill show a screenshot so you can see my problem |
| 02:45.46 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r266 scrape.pl: Fix ID of Headless Horseman's Mount. |
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| 02:48.02 | synthetic | http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/622/51801666.jpg |
| 02:48.55 | synthetic | the combat text setting is on arc |
| 02:49.10 | synthetic | so does anyone know how to increase its strata? or decrease pitbull 4's strata? |
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| 02:53.46 | Repo | 10broker_lfd: 03ulic * r21 Broker_LFD.lua: Fix DropDownMenu so that it stays on the screen |
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| 03:49.40 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/shadoweduf-trinkets/. ShadowedUF Trinkets. Shadowed (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 03:49.54 | Shadowed | Torhal does curse have any mods besides you |
| 03:50.02 | Shadowed | it seems like you basically do 99% of the approvals |
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| 03:53.08 | Torhal | As far as active ones, only Ackis. He's been ill lately, though. |
| 03:53.44 | Shadowed | time to get more mods it sounds like! |
| 03:54.22 | Torhal | I'll let kaelten know that you volunteered. |
| 03:54.24 | Torhal | LD |
| 03:54.26 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:54.57 | Torhal | Gah. Still half asleep. Went to be three hours ago, and my GF has absolutely no concept of a "talking on the phone in the same room as a sleeping person" voice. |
| 03:55.03 | Torhal | bed* |
| 03:55.09 | Shadowed | that's fine |
| 03:55.13 | Shadowed | I'll setup a script to auto approve everything |
| 03:55.25 | Torhal | I rescind that statement, then. |
| 03:56.02 | Shadowed | Wise decision |
| 04:01.32 | Primer | Anyone know the directory path to the readycheck sound? |
| 04:01.48 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r19 / (5 files in 2 directories): added profile commands, a bit more localization |
| 04:03.22 | Myrroddin | active moderators on curse? i'm one |
| 04:03.46 | Torhal | Myrroddin: File moderators for WoWAce/CurseForge |
| 04:04.15 | Myrroddin | oh, nvm then. i thought you were asking about curse.com |
| 04:07.34 | Myrroddin | can anyone suggest an addon that uses profile callbacks, that would be an easy guide to read how to handle them? i've been going thru my mods, and yeesh. maybe just because i use big complicated addons... |
| 04:08.28 | WobWork | Torhal: Just yell in her other ear "INSIDE VOICE PLEASE!" |
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| 04:14.17 | Primer | ugh, how the hell does one find the path to a sound file? |
| 04:14.56 | Primer | I just want to restore the old readycheck sound |
| 04:15.32 | Primer | by placing the proper sound file in Data/Sounds/Whatever/readycheck.wav |
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| 04:20.26 | Torhal | WobWork: Oh, it was an inside voice. It wasn't, however, a voice you use when trying to not wake someone up. |
| 04:24.28 | Repo | 10head-count: 03JerryBlade * r105 locale (4 files in 1 directory): HeadCount: |
| 04:24.30 | Repo | - Updated Lady Deathwhisper trigger text |
| 04:25.06 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1106 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 04:25.08 | Repo | - Second pass on cross-realm pet handling. Worked when tested and should no longer have pathological fail cases. Cross-realm pets will now show as PetName <OwnerName-OwnerRealm>. |
| 04:25.20 | Groktar | sets fire to renchap |
| 04:27.45 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia 04v3.3d release * r1107 : Tagging as v3.3d release |
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| 04:59.19 | onaforeignshore | anyone here have access to the repository to do me a huge favour? |
| 05:03.29 | Yssaril | onaforeignshore: what do you mean THE repository? each project has its own |
| 05:04.09 | synthetic | is it possible to change the strata of the default comabt text? |
| 05:05.12 | onaforeignshore | my project has multiple heads because I was still learning and I need a way to get rid of them |
| 05:08.10 | Yssaril | onaforeignshore: no idea what type of repo? |
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| 05:10.45 | onaforeignshore | mercurial |
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| 05:15.25 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r47 / (109 files in 28 directories): Merge |
| 05:15.26 | Repo | few error fixes and some code streamlining |
| 05:19.17 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r48 /: Merge |
| 05:24.13 | Repo | 10loremstr (experimental): 03Scisto * r36 Config.lua: Configuration file |
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| 05:31.37 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * d4a4ce4 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] there are now several options for the 2D skulls selectable in the config |
| 05:31.55 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r51 / (4 files in 2 directories): Merge |
| 05:31.57 | Repo | Merge |
| 05:31.58 | Primer | In Ulduar, in order to bypass FL hardmode, all one needs to do is talk to Bran, right? And once you talk to him, you can just do a bee-line to FL, pull, and you don't get any towers, right? |
| 05:31.59 | Repo | Merge |
| 05:34.50 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 8cc6b99 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] some localization for the 2D skulls would be nice :P |
| 05:40.42 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r53 / (95 files in 20 directories): merge complete |
| 05:40.43 | Repo | Merging multiple heads |
| 05:41.14 | onaforeignshore | hope that fixed it now |
| 05:45.47 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r54 .hgtags: Added tag 2.0.6 for changeset 30fd73cf4954 |
| 05:52.04 | Yssaril | onaforeignshore: btw why did you toss your addonpics on tinypic and not uploaded them directly to your project? |
| 05:52.26 | synthetic | please tell me theres a way to increase the dafult combat text strata =.= |
| 05:52.54 | Yssaril | synthetic: find its parent frame and increase it? |
| 05:53.21 | synthetic | how can i do that? |
| 05:53.53 | synthetic | pitbull 4 doesnt have strata options and my combat text is underneat it >< |
| 05:54.08 | Torhal | What combat text> |
| 05:54.09 | Torhal | ? |
| 05:54.18 | Torhal | I thought you were referring to the stuff in the 3D world at first |
| 05:54.19 | synthetic | default combat text |
| 05:54.32 | synthetic | oh sorry to derail :S |
| 05:55.07 | synthetic | http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/622/51801666.jpg |
| 05:55.11 | synthetic | thats my problem |
| 05:58.11 | Yssaril | synthetic: have you tried using MSBT instead? |
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| 05:59.05 | synthetic | i like the default combat text |
| 06:00.10 | Yssaril | synthetic: kk i would toss a post the wowace or wowinterface forums asking for help more people tend to read it there :) |
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| 06:03.37 | synthetic | thanks ill get on it |
| 06:06.29 | asmodai | oh wow |
| 06:06.41 | asmodai | it has snowed :| |
| 06:08.21 | Fisker | Yssaril you still suck |
| 06:17.12 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6883 Citadel (7 files in 2 directories): |
| 06:17.13 | Repo | Marrowgar: DelayedMessage for Bonestorm, cancel Impale while whirlwinding, tweak timers |
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| 06:30.19 | Shadowed | well damn |
| 06:30.35 | Shadowed | I think Blizzard actually broke Xinhuan's hack to make dropdowns focus work again in like 3.2 |
| 06:33.42 | asmodai | Eh? |
| 06:33.52 | asmodai | broke via that patch or? |
| 06:35.56 | Shadowed | as in Blizzard broke it |
| 06:36.02 | Shadowed | between 3.2 and 3.3 |
| 06:36.35 | asmodai | mmm |
| 06:36.42 | onaforeignshore | Yssaril: how do you upload them directly to your project? |
| 06:36.54 | asmodai | funny, just logged in and saw this popup "submitting non-personal system information" or something like it. |
| 06:37.00 | asmodai | hardware inventory? |
| 06:38.46 | onaforeignshore | Yssaril: never mind |
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| 06:43.35 | Torhal | Shadowed: They did - I spoke with Beladona about it a few days before 3.3 hit live. |
| 06:43.58 | Shadowed | Yea I assume you guys didn't come to any ways around it? |
| 06:44.03 | Shadowed | I can't think of any |
| 06:44.24 | Torhal | Nope. So he did what Shefki or ckknight did and simply removed it from the menu. |
| 06:44.35 | Shadowed | Yea that's what I'm doing |
| 06:45.19 | Shadowed | I think the only way it could work, would be to take the original frame and reuse it |
| 06:45.41 | Shadowed | And even that would be iffy |
| 06:46.54 | Silowyi | grrr |
| 06:46.56 | Silowyi | it did it again! |
| 06:47.04 | Torhal | oops? |
| 06:47.20 | Silowyi | Shadowed: so far every time I shut down WoW and start it up again all my unit frames end up moved down and to the right |
| 06:47.49 | Silowyi | any ideas? |
| 06:47.57 | Shadowed | nope |
| 06:48.10 | Silowyi | hmmm |
| 06:48.19 | Silowyi | ok I take that back |
| 06:48.25 | Silowyi | the target frame got all jacked up |
| 06:48.32 | Silowyi | but every other frame moved down and to the right |
| 06:48.53 | Silowyi | however if I unlok frames they seem to be in the right place |
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| 06:51.27 | onaforeignshore | @project guilder |
| 06:51.28 | Repo | onaforeignshore: http://www.wowace.com/addons/guilder/. Guilder. Game: WoW. onaforeignshore (Manager/Author). Updated: 64 minutes ago |
| 06:51.49 | onaforeignshore | had a comment that it is more a raid addon than a guild addon - can I have comments on that pls? |
| 06:53.00 | onaforeignshore | should I reclassify it? |
| 06:54.17 | Silowyi | it looks like a bit of both... but it seems more focused around managing guild raids/events than just generic guild stuff. |
| 06:55.44 | Fisker | btw Antiarc and/or Shadowed |
| 06:55.51 | onaforeignshore | I will be working on guild management modules too, just wanted to get the basics done, and the raid management sections were what my guild wanted working first |
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| 06:56.06 | onaforeignshore | but I'll reclassify for now :) |
| 06:57.15 | onaforeignshore | have to put it under Miscellaneous, since there is no category for raids |
| 06:58.06 | Silowyi | Primordial Saronite needs to hurry up and drop below 2k so I can buy the rest for Shadowmourne :P |
| 06:58.45 | Silowyi | on my server it's hovering right at around 2300g right now... I figure in another week it will go down below 2k |
| 06:59.25 | Fisker | aww :( |
| 06:59.30 | Fisker | you made me sad Shadowed |
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| 07:01.51 | Fisker | baw nevcairiel |
| 07:02.00 | Fisker | did you kill mapster? |
| 07:02.23 | quiescens | in the living room with the mantlepiece? |
| 07:04.42 | quiescens | I don't understand why people can't list themselves for a raid and queue for a dungeon thingy at the same time |
| 07:05.02 | quiescens | wouldn't it make more sense to allow them to be in both, but remove them from the other once they accept an invite |
| 07:11.07 | Kuosi | if they used the same tool then maybe |
| 07:15.22 | Fisker | wtf |
| 07:15.30 | Fisker | you can do daily random dungeon on a level 69 |
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| 07:17.17 | onaforeignshore | it's off to work I go - see you all later |
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| 07:25.37 | nevcairiel | Fisker: i added the anti-fisker-module |
| 07:26.34 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r81 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added debug code using tekDebug. |
| 07:27.19 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r82 Localization.lua: |
| 07:27.21 | Repo | Pass localization table through addon private table instead of globals. |
| 07:28.09 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r83 Prototypes.lua: Added Debug method to module prototype. |
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| 07:37.49 | Fisker | well nevcairiel for some reason after having used it once it pops up the objectives panel and gives me a blank map |
| 07:37.56 | Fisker | and that doesn't go away until reload |
| 07:38.19 | nevcairiel | which version? |
| 07:39.22 | Fisker | 1.3.2-5-g2f04981 |
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| 07:42.32 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 07:43.01 | Fisker | weird |
| 07:43.19 | Fisker | checked a second time? |
| 07:43.30 | Fisker | works fine the first time but disappears afterwards for me |
| 07:44.05 | Fisker | ah |
| 07:44.07 | Fisker | it's Yssaril |
| 07:45.08 | Fisker | slaps Yssaril around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:51.42 | Fisker | come here Yssaril |
| 07:51.45 | Fisker | Face your punishment |
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| 08:05.01 | Gnarfoz | I'll punish your face, Fisker |
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| 08:09.59 | Fisker | Great |
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| 08:14.52 | Repo | 10travelagent: 03Torhal 07master * beta2 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+13 commits] (9 truncated) |
| 08:14.54 | Repo | 13dc416: Removed references to un-used libraries. |
| 08:14.59 | Repo | 20c9dee: Fixed DataObj icon switching - damn Blizzard's knack for inconsistent naming. |
| 08:15.01 | Repo | 7e60a65: Added support for LibDBIcon-1.0 |
| 08:15.02 | Repo | 8a207f8: Added new localization strings. |
| 08:15.10 | Repo | 10travelagent: 03Torhal 04beta2 * 7d6e050 /: [new tag] Tagging as beta2 |
| 08:18.02 | Repo | 10travelagent: 03Torhal 07master * beta2a Locale/devel-enUS.lua: [+1 commit] Added localization for the minimap icon. |
| 08:18.09 | Repo | 10travelagent: 03Torhal 04beta2a * b91e7f0 /: [new tag] Tagging as beta2a |
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| 08:23.27 | Repo | 545eaf0: Properly refresh the quest blobs when leaving combat. |
| 08:23.28 | Repo | 778d519: Prevent an Action Blocked message when minimizing the map in combat. |
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| 08:53.45 | Repo | 10fu-bar_addon-spam-fu: 03yoshimo * r102 AddonSpamFu.lua: Added TourGuide |
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| 09:02.48 | Shadowed | .... |
| 09:02.58 | Shadowed | why is Auctionator randomly sending version requests to poeple using who data |
| 09:03.09 | Shadowed | s/poeple/people/ |
| 09:04.13 | yoshimo | Shadowed, i read that only very very old versions of auctionator do that to ask wether there is an updated version available |
| 09:04.34 | orionshock | http://browsersize.googlelabs.com/ |
| 09:04.36 | orionshock | interesting |
| 09:04.40 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: any idea why QA would be undercutting myself? |
| 09:05.26 | Shadowed | It's not undercutting yourself, no it's not a bug, no I'm not going to fix what it says |
| 09:05.32 | Shadowed | yoshimo it's doing it still as far as I can tell |
| 09:06.56 | Shadowed | In fact, as far as I can tell it's not even using the /who data, it's just randomly asking if people are using ATR |
| 09:07.56 | Fisker | Shadowed ! |
| 09:08.27 | yoshimo | people are really lazy regarding addonupdates.. |
| 09:08.49 | Shadowed | That's not really an excuse for sending who data just to check versions |
| 09:09.09 | Fisker | You should have rating for people leaving the group Shadowed |
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| 09:12.40 | yoshimo | no its not an excuse, but they might be running an old version where this issue hasnt been fixed yet |
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| 09:14.09 | synthetic | hey again |
| 09:14.20 | synthetic | someone on wowace was nice enough to help me out on my problem |
| 09:14.24 | Shadowed | This is in the version I downloaded an hour ago yoshimo :P |
| 09:14.27 | synthetic | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=17536 |
| 09:14.45 | synthetic | im wondering do i make that code into an addon? |
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| 09:15.37 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: if you're not going to change it, and it's not a bug and not what it appears to be... can you (or did you already, if so, point me to it please? ;-)) explain what's happening? |
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| 09:22.16 | Fisker | why must that shit be so ugly orionshock ? |
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| 09:23.28 | orionshock | eh? it's a design tool |
| 09:25.02 | synthetic | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=17536 < can anyone help me with this code ;s |
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| 09:27.28 | Fisker | but are monitors made that uneven? |
| 09:28.34 | orionshock | average Fisker |
| 09:28.52 | orionshock | also mouse tracking |
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| 09:32.54 | SunTsu | synthetic: If you don't want to learn how to make an addon (there are tutorials on wowwiki and wowace) you could always use omnibook to run it on startup |
| 09:34.14 | SunTsu | synthetic: or you could put it into a macro using /script |
| 09:34.31 | synthetic | i did make it into an addon |
| 09:34.45 | synthetic | it shows in the addon list |
| 09:34.54 | synthetic | but im not sure the script is working |
| 09:35.10 | synthetic | ill try running it in a macro and get back to you |
| 09:35.19 | SunTsu | synthetic: then have it print something |
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| 09:36.33 | synthetic | print something? |
| 09:37.09 | SunTsu | synthetic: yeah, put a print inside the loop and see whether it prints something, so you can be sure that it runs and can count how often |
| 09:37.32 | SunTsu | print aka poor man's debugger |
| 09:37.57 | synthetic | aaaaaaaaaaah what is this lingo you speak of *_* |
| 09:39.47 | synthetic | sorry for making this so difficult to explain :'( |
| 09:40.54 | SunTsu | synthetic: print? just generate output, so you can see whether your addon gets run, whether your loop is cycled, if so, how often, etc. |
| 09:41.33 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.0.3-21-g624a3e3 modules/runes.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed rune bar coloring not being set on login |
| 09:41.52 | synthetic | i have no idea how to do that |
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| 09:42.52 | Fisker | llol wtf |
| 09:43.05 | SunTsu | call _print_? |
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| 09:43.40 | SunTsu | print("Hello, this is your addon started, whooohooo"); |
| 09:43.58 | synthetic | ok now where getting something |
| 09:44.04 | synthetic | im doing this in the .lua file |
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| 09:45.21 | Fisker | if you disenchant something and it's not awarded to you, you can loot the disenchanted results on the corpse :P |
| 09:45.26 | SunTsu | synthetic: good start, writing it onto post-its and sticking it to your monitor wouldn't helo ;) |
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| 09:45.55 | synthetic | WHERES THE PRINT BUTTON DAMNIT |
| 09:45.56 | SunTsu | Fisker: yeah, had that happen when my bags were full - like they are most of the time |
| 09:45.58 | synthetic | jokes* |
| 09:46.24 | synthetic | wow i did |
| 09:46.27 | synthetic | i got the message |
| 09:46.28 | synthetic | print("Hello, this is your addon started, whooohooo"); |
| 09:46.31 | synthetic | when i logged on |
| 09:46.45 | synthetic | well just Hello, this is your addon started, whooohooo" |
| 09:46.57 | synthetic | so it must be something wrong with the code? |
| 09:47.32 | SunTsu | synthetic: so you know that your addon is running. Now put something along the line into the for loop, so you know whether it really runs |
| 09:48.05 | SunTsu | print("This is the for loop running, iteration " .. i"); or something like that |
| 09:48.30 | SunTsu | synthetic: a good idea might be to install bugsack/buggrabber and see if there are errors |
| 09:48.30 | synthetic | on the same line as: _G["CombatText" .. i]:SetFrameStrata("TOOLTIP") -- put the combat text on top of everything. |
| 09:48.40 | synthetic | have error monster |
| 09:49.05 | SunTsu | synthetic: or above or below, as long as it is in between for and end ;) |
| 09:49.21 | synthetic | :P right |
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| 09:50.45 | SunTsu | synthetic: you could put one above and one below, with altered text, if you suspect that line to bail out |
| 09:51.24 | synthetic | yep already changed the text |
| 09:53.20 | synthetic | okay i got bugsack and im seeing quite a few bugs |
| 09:53.32 | synthetic | also i did not see my altered line anywhere in my chat |
| 09:53.45 | synthetic | 1x strata\strata.lua:3: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 09:55.30 | SunTsu | on which iteration? |
| 09:55.53 | synthetic | Locals: |
| 09:55.54 | synthetic | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:55.55 | synthetic | ah? |
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| 09:58.09 | synthetic | not understanding |
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| 10:00.12 | SunTsu | synthetic: you don't see your diagnosis output? Where did you put that print? |
| 10:00.56 | synthetic | print("Hello, this is sfsafas started, whooohooo"); |
| 10:01.02 | synthetic | was put just before the end |
| 10:01.06 | synthetic | the line before end* |
| 10:01.19 | synthetic | in order of line: |
| 10:01.24 | synthetic | print("Hello, this is your addon started, whooohooo"); |
| 10:01.28 | synthetic | for i = 1, 20 do |
| 10:01.33 | synthetic | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.38 | synthetic | print("Hello, this is sfsafas started, whooohooo"); |
| 10:01.39 | synthetic | end |
| 10:02.23 | SunTsu | synthetic: that isn't printed because the line befor errors |
| 10:02.46 | SunTsu | before even |
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| 10:03.28 | SunTsu | synthetic: Looks like _G["CombatText1"] does not exist |
| 10:04.00 | synthetic | this code was given to me by someone nice on the wowace forum |
| 10:04.16 | synthetic | so dont assume i know whats going on XD |
| 10:04.55 | SunTsu | synthetic: believe me, I don't assume that in any way - but to be honest, I don't know anything about CombatText |
| 10:05.57 | synthetic | no problems thanks for all your help though |
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| 10:07.34 | SunTsu | synthetic: maybe your problem is due to the hint that Blizzard_CombatText is load on demand and might not be loaded at the time your addon is |
| 10:08.20 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.2-8-g53e1bb2 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added an option to scale the POI Icons on the map. |
| 10:08.59 | synthetic | so i should try the same thing in a macro? |
| 10:10.27 | SunTsu | synthetic: or depend on Blizzard_CombatText. But try using it in a macro AFTER engaging a fight would show you if it is a problem with the code or with the load time |
| 10:10.35 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 041.3.3 * 23117c5 /: [new tag] Tag as 1.3.3 |
| 10:10.52 | KriLL3 | I'm having a weird mapster issue, in some zones the border around the map is missing, so I get a black background where there isn't a map and the sidebar and bottom book are visible though I got show objectives turned off, and in battlegrounds I get no map at all, just the icons |
| 10:12.10 | synthetic | are you using skinner? |
| 10:12.15 | KriLL3 | no |
| 10:14.00 | SunTsu | synthetic: maybe you want to try putting "## Dependencies: Blizzard_CombatText" into your .toc, that could resolve your problems |
| 10:14.01 | Fisker | brrr |
| 10:14.24 | Fisker | it's still slacking you won't give us an objectives map without the panel nevcairiel :( |
| 10:14.29 | SunTsu | Fisker: talked to yourself and now you are giving yourself the creeps? ;) |
| 10:15.12 | Fisker | ? |
| 10:16.08 | rbarreiros | got a couple of google wave invitations left anyone interested ? |
| 10:16.24 | synthetic | sure thing |
| 10:16.30 | rbarreiros | msg me u're email |
| 10:16.36 | synthetic | --/script for i = 1, 20 do _G["CombatText" .. i]:SetFrameStrata("TOOLTIP"); end |
| 10:16.40 | synthetic | did not work |
| 10:16.41 | orionshock | google wave is interesting.. |
| 10:16.58 | Gnarfoz | just slightly |
| 10:17.14 | orionshock | SetFrameStrata is the wrong call |
| 10:17.20 | rbarreiros | just /msg me your email if u want it |
| 10:17.27 | orionshock | synthetic: are you reading the error that pops up? |
| 10:17.35 | synthetic | its a pretty big one |
| 10:17.47 | krka | that's what she said |
| 10:17.48 | orionshock | 1x <string>:"for i = 1, 20 do _G["CombatText" .. i]:SetF...":1: attempt to call method 'SetFrameStrata' (a nil value) |
| 10:18.01 | orionshock | 9/10 the important part of the error message is that first line |
| 10:18.09 | synthetic | ill remember that |
| 10:18.25 | synthetic | either way i still have no idea what it means |
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| 10:19.23 | asmodai | Some method was called from the addon, SetFrameStrata(), and apparently it gets passed a nil value or something else is nil. |
| 10:19.30 | synthetic | thanks for telling me to get bugsack, i thought i already had an addon to handle my errors |
| 10:20.06 | synthetic | ## Interface: 30300 |
| 10:20.12 | synthetic | ## Dependencies: Blizzard_CombatText |
| 10:20.17 | orionshock | stop |
| 10:20.21 | synthetic | adding the dependencies did not work |
| 10:20.23 | orionshock | use paste.wowace.com |
| 10:20.49 | synthetic | bookmarked |
| 10:21.54 | orionshock | also, [CombatText"..i] is a font string that dosn't have a frame strata or level. it's drawn on top of a frame. |
| 10:22.03 | SunTsu | synthetic: Could you try being more specific than "did not work"? |
| 10:22.20 | synthetic | 1x strata\strata.lua:3: attempt to call method 'SetFrameStrata' (a nil value) |
| 10:22.22 | synthetic | again |
| 10:22.38 | orionshock | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#FontString |
| 10:22.59 | synthetic | the problem is pitbull4 doesnt have strata options so the combat text sometimes sits behind it |
| 10:23.02 | orionshock | so you want to act on the parent frame of the combat text font strings |
| 10:23.06 | synthetic | same with dominos action bars |
| 10:23.08 | SunTsu | synthetic: as orionshock wrote, it's not a Frame, so you can't use "SetFrameStrata" on it |
| 10:23.21 | orionshock | synthetic: /run CombatText:SetFrameStrata("TOOLTIP") |
| 10:23.50 | synthetic | excellent |
| 10:23.59 | synthetic | <3 thank-you very much |
| 10:24.46 | synthetic | thanks everyone for being so helpful |
| 10:27.15 | synthetic | http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/622/51801666.jpg |
| 10:27.19 | synthetic | what do you think of it :P |
| 10:27.38 | orionshock | ... no |
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| 10:28.28 | SunTsu | .o0( Must ... resist ... urge ... of ... clicking ) |
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| 10:30.46 | KriLL3 | hmm the mapster issue only appears when you open the map, if you swap which map it shows the issue disappears, even if you go back to the map you started on |
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| 10:34.08 | synthetic | http://paste.wowace.com/1558/ |
| 10:34.16 | synthetic | trying to run the /run into an addon |
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| 10:36.08 | orionshock | synthetic: no end at the end |
| 10:37.41 | synthetic | like a charm.. |
| 10:37.54 | synthetic | http://www.alienwarearena.com/event/hon-beta-giveaway/ |
| 10:38.01 | synthetic | free HoN keys if anyone is interested |
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| 10:40.18 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: am I the only one with this issue? |
| 10:40.24 | nevcairiel | apparently |
| 10:40.32 | KriLL3 | weird |
| 10:40.35 | nevcairiel | do you use any other map related addons? |
| 10:40.43 | KriLL3 | nope, well handynotes etc |
| 10:42.52 | KriLL3 | does yssbossloot qualify? |
| 10:43.15 | nevcairiel | Fisker claimed it broke his map |
| 10:45.30 | KriLL3 | yeah turning off yssbossloot fixes it, turning it back on again breaks it |
| 10:45.36 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel, you should have a talk with Yssaril |
| 10:45.44 | nevcairiel | its not my addon breaking the map :P |
| 10:45.55 | KriLL3 | bring a baseball bat, and a broken beer bottle |
| 10:46.14 | nevcairiel | i'll brign a full beer bottle, that way i can drink it, and then smash it with the bat |
| 10:46.23 | KriLL3 | good plan |
| 10:59.10 | orionshock | ~seen lilsparky |
| 10:59.12 | purl | orionshock: i haven't seen 'lilsparky' |
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| 11:02.49 | synthetic | it it possible to lower the ambience (guns ect in combat) without lowering the sound of boss emotes? |
| 11:03.11 | Fisker | you wouldn't KriLL3 my KriLL3 |
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| 11:40.20 | Repo | 10repgain2: 03texke * r63 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added Parser support. |
| 11:44.35 | synthetic | gnite everyone |
| 11:44.47 | KriLL3 | synthetic: good morning |
| 11:45.03 | synthetic | D: not yet in australia |
| 11:45.14 | nevcairiel | its lunch time |
| 11:45.37 | KriLL3 | man, why do people in good gear have little to no grasp of basics anymore? because they need it less? |
| 11:45.57 | KriLL3 | doesn't matter if I mark or not, which target they hit seems completely random |
| 11:46.09 | KriLL3 | sure I can keep up mostly, but it's a pain |
| 11:46.29 | nevcairiel | thats always been like that =P |
| 11:46.34 | nevcairiel | i just stopped marking |
| 11:46.39 | KriLL3 | yeah me2 |
| 11:46.43 | Bribri | maybe they disagree with your kill order |
| 11:46.57 | KriLL3 | but they should be able to see where I am, which mob I'm pointed towards etc |
| 11:47.10 | KriLL3 | Bribri: if they do they're idiots, I always go for the healers etc first |
| 11:47.27 | KriLL3 | and they're not consistent |
| 11:47.40 | KriLL3 | if I mark the one they went for next time as kill they pick another |
| 11:47.49 | nevcairiel | if there is some silly caster in the mob group i'm usually just ignoring it and letting the dps tank kill it :p |
| 11:47.53 | KriLL3 | and ofc the dps picks on mob each, not the one I'm on |
| 11:48.19 | KriLL3 | always fun to have your skull marked healer go down last |
| 11:48.45 | KriLL3 | and this run our healer pala realized he was healer just before first boss |
| 11:49.01 | KriLL3 | he was retri and swinging up until that point |
| 11:49.17 | nevcairiel | thats why i added those LFD icons on my unit frame |
| 11:49.35 | nevcairiel | since i sign up as tank/heal combo, i never know what i get :D |
| 11:52.26 | SunTsu | KriLL3: I sometimes stop healing dps that gets aggro |
| 11:52.32 | KriLL3 | I signed up as tank/dps, but I never ever was DPS, so now I just sign up as tank, and btw your role appears in big bold font when you get to join =P |
| 11:52.48 | nevcairiel | yeah but i forgot until the loading screen is over |
| 11:52.58 | nevcairiel | or rather, i dont pay attention much |
| 11:53.16 | nevcairiel | although i'm playing with my DK now who is only tank |
| 11:53.19 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: I don't bother taunting at times, thinking that some dmg on em will do em good, doesn't seem to sink in |
| 11:53.29 | SunTsu | KriLL3: most of the time you don't even need a healer anymore, only at some bosses it's nice to have one.. |
| 11:53.36 | KriLL3 | true |
| 11:53.48 | KriLL3 | imp lotp heals more than the mobs hit usually |
| 11:53.54 | KriLL3 | except magical dmg ofc |
| 11:54.06 | KriLL3 | all my armor etc is useless vs spells |
| 11:54.31 | KriLL3 | annoying, I'm 42k hp unbuffed and I can still almost die in heroics if I got a couple of spellcasters on me |
| 11:54.48 | KriLL3 | need to pull cooldowned survival abilities |
| 11:55.22 | KriLL3 | funny really, most bosses are silly easy that some I could solo, most I wouldn't need a healer on, but ohnoes, magic casting mobs |
| 11:55.40 | KriLL3 | mobs harder than bosses |
| 11:55.57 | Repo | 10repgain2: 03texke * r64 RepGain2.lua: Fixed my options mistake. |
| 11:57.15 | SunTsu | My only wish is to get a group heal as paladin, it's sad having nearly 2.4k spelldamage but having guys die because of aoe damage and you can't do anything about it. |
| 11:58.06 | SunTsu | All the group getting damage and you really have fun ;) |
| 11:58.09 | Fisker | OIAMPFIJAMKS9 |
| 11:58.09 | Fisker | "#ÅOKT%Q |
| 11:58.21 | Fisker | I'm gonna kill all nexus watchers |
| 11:58.23 | Fisker | TO HELL |
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| 11:58.44 | SunTsu | Let me guess, this is your hate face? |
| 11:59.05 | Repo | 10repgain2: 03texke 040.1 * r65 : Tagging as 0.1 |
| 11:59.17 | Fisker | yes SunTsu |
| 12:00.06 | SunTsu | how unexpected |
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| 12:07.41 | Fisker | NEXUS WATCHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR |
| 12:09.51 | Kalroth | you wouldn't capsulate the name of an npc |
| 12:11.06 | Fisker | i would if i could |
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| 12:26.38 | Repo | 10repgain2: 03texke * r66 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 12:26.40 | Repo | Change of plans, no parser. Too much stuff working against me. |
| 12:29.14 | Repo | 10rcw: 03Silmano 04r05 * 5bc2d76 /: [new tag, +1 commits] |
| 12:29.17 | Repo | - Updated TOC |
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| 12:31.30 | Repo | Spellcast announces: hopefully fixed spammy "not ready" failures. |
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| 12:32.24 | Repo | 10magic-marker: 03Flyhard * r158 Config.lua: Fixed Raidicon posting for mulit-language |
| 12:36.23 | Repo | 10magic-marker: 03Flyhard * r159 Config.lua: Added Icecrown Citadel |
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| 12:49.32 | yoshimo | if i have 10 crystal life in a special herbs bag on my bank and 9 aeon life and do "mrplow bank theworks", shouldnt that be stacked together to 10 aeon life? |
| 12:49.50 | Repo | 10repgain2: 03texke * r67 Factions (2 files in 1 directory): Removed Daily quest stuff |
| 12:49.52 | Repo | Added The Lost Supplies |
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| 12:52.21 | yoshimo | aeon= eternal, stupid english im sorry |
| 12:55.16 | asmodai | http://www.wowbash.com//image-10905.html |
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| 13:01.41 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 13:01.43 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (20h 40m 15s) #wowace (20h 40m 15s) #curseforge (20h 40m 15s). Has said a total of 42 messages. Is idling for 12h 22m 19s, last said: 'In this PUG run so far I've caught 9 misranked spells'. |
| 13:04.33 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2469 / (2 files in 2 directories): - added ICC support for Atlas member update |
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| 13:06.04 | asmodai | misranked? As in people not using their ultimate rank? |
| 13:07.20 | orionshock | Antiarc: Shadowed : SexyGroup/data.lua:146 & 147 --- should read [[ tooltip["TextLeft"..i] = tooltip:CreateFontString(); tooltip["TextRight"..i] = tooltip:CreateFontString(); ]] otherwise, ln157 won't resolve properly |
| 13:09.33 | Fisker | why won't yssbossloot just die? |
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| 13:14.26 | Bribri | just to spite you |
| 13:15.38 | yoshimo | ~seen Wobin |
| 13:15.40 | purl | wobin is currently on #wowuidev (2h 56m 37s) #wowace (2h 56m 37s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 2h 50m 51s, last said: 'do you find yourself struggling for threat?'. |
| 13:16.05 | Wobin | ? |
| 13:16.24 | Wobin | no it doesn't |
| 13:16.32 | Wobin | cause that requires a combination |
| 13:16.40 | Wobin | oh wait what? |
| 13:16.54 | Wobin | I haven't got any cross inventory->bank sorting yet |
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| 13:26.24 | yoshimo | its within the bank wobin, i have a few stacks of crystal life and an stack of eternal life that isnt full yet, i think /mp bank theworks should convert the crystal life to eternals and compress it to full stacks of eternal life, but it leaves the crystals untouched |
| 13:29.33 | Daemona | awesome day is awesome (looking out of my window NOW) http://i47.tinypic.com/357hird.jpg |
| 13:30.13 | orionshock | snow... |
| 13:31.01 | Daemona | i havent seen that much snow in 10 years (beside when traveling 800+ km for skiing) |
| 13:31.38 | Fisker | you get free fu Daemona |
| 13:31.53 | Daemona | hands Fisker cookies AND milk. |
| 13:31.57 | pentium166 | mmm, snow |
| 13:31.59 | Daemona | wassup fiskerdin |
| 13:33.00 | Wobin | yoshimo, nope |
| 13:33.04 | Wobin | it'll never do that |
| 13:33.10 | Wobin | I'd have auctioneers up in arms =P |
| 13:33.36 | Fisker | how did you find out Daemona? :( |
| 13:34.35 | Fisker | lame |
| 13:34.40 | Fisker | i'm doing damn quests |
| 13:34.50 | Fisker | what makes you think i want to do a dungeon halfway completed? |
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| 13:40.20 | SunTsu | Daemona: it started to snow here yesterday in the evening, and I was driving for an hour through snow. That was awesome. |
| 13:42.51 | yoshimo | wobin, it would save me some bankspace ;) |
| 13:43.18 | Wobin | it's not that hard to click them when they're stacked =P |
| 13:43.33 | Wobin | Sorry. no. It'll never do that |
| 13:44.03 | Daemona | did i mention snow is awesome if you get it only every 5-10 years that traffic will yam? :D |
| 13:44.43 | SunTsu | traffic jams everyday around here, regardless of snow.. ;) |
| 13:44.52 | asmodai | oh noes Daemona lost FtH |
| 13:45.21 | nevcairiel | wait wait Daemona, didnt you live somewhere in the north too? or am i remembering things wrong? |
| 13:45.37 | Daemona | flensburg |
| 13:45.43 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 13:45.48 | nevcairiel | send soem snow in my direction then |
| 13:45.50 | Daemona | we got the full load of snow that passed just north of hamburg |
| 13:46.04 | nevcairiel | didnt touch my end of hamburg |
| 13:46.21 | Daemona | yeah i checked at wetteronline and it barely touched northern hamburg |
| 13:46.23 | SunTsu | Daemona: Flensburg? Would you mind doing something for me? ;) |
| 13:46.34 | Daemona | SunTsu depends on how naughty it is ;) |
| 13:46.42 | Daemona | asmodai thats already a week ago |
| 13:46.51 | SunTsu | Daemona: VERY, it's about some points.. ;) |
| 13:46.57 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:47.05 | asmodai | Daemona: Why? |
| 13:47.06 | Daemona | i rage quit when i was told i got sat in ICC even with 2 raids filled up with twinks |
| 13:47.12 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Got your board? |
| 13:47.12 | Daemona | gonna fix my midterms though i guess |
| 13:47.45 | nevcairiel | asmodai: not yet, but mail isnt through for today |
| 13:47.48 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 13:47.53 | Fisker | pressing the clique button does nothing! |
| 13:47.57 | Daemona | i was sat mostly during TOC either, so it just had to happen sometime |
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| 13:48.13 | Daemona | fun fact.. for the horde went through 6 rogue trials in the last half year and only 1 stayed |
| 13:48.15 | Daemona | :D |
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| 13:48.29 | Daemona | so obviously its a problem with my person and not skill :/ |
| 13:48.47 | Daemona | so anyone german/english guild looking for a rogue, preferably world top25 euro ;) |
| 13:49.36 | SunTsu | My guild is nearly dead, even if it was, I don't think it would like to mix up with Horde ;) |
| 13:49.40 | Daemona | i need to take out Abyss Crystals below 100g from my snatch list -.- |
| 13:49.59 | Daemona | LFG put them in a spiral down |
| 13:50.13 | Daemona | Abyss for 30g anyone? (it's taking dust down with it) |
| 13:50.14 | nevcairiel | they are like 50 on my realm |
| 13:50.44 | Daemona | artic furs, 25g |
| 13:50.46 | Daemona | ouch |
| 13:51.15 | nevcairiel | i just spend like 6k on some crafted gear for my DK .. stupid shit is still too expensive :D |
| 13:51.16 | SunTsu | Daemona: I'd take some arctic fur, yeah ;) |
| 13:51.18 | Wobin | well artic fur became a simply farmable commodity |
| 13:51.29 | Wobin | just grind out lots of leather =P |
| 13:52.16 | Daemona | i can afk that with my affliction lock twink :X |
| 13:52.36 | Daemona | tab, dot dot dot, tab dot dot dot...... skin every 5 minutes |
| 13:52.37 | Daemona | a pity a pet on aggressive without me doing damage qualifies me for looting ^^ |
| 13:52.37 | Fisker | gg |
| 13:52.39 | Fisker | almost kicked for skills |
| 13:53.15 | Daemona | i am impressed that you even know how to spell skill Fisker ;) |
| 13:53.17 | Kalroth | I'm pretty sure you'd be kicked for being Fisker, Fisker. |
| 13:53.26 | SunTsu | Who needs a reason to kick Fisker? |
| 13:53.31 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 13:53.31 | Kalroth | kick the baby! |
| 13:53.57 | Fisker | doing nexus |
| 13:53.59 | Daemona | cut yourself :D |
| 13:54.00 | Fisker | And twice someone pulls another trash pack |
| 13:54.08 | Fisker | And i misdirect them to the tank |
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| 13:54.10 | Fisker | On the second occasion we die and i get accused of ninja pulling |
| 13:54.16 | SunTsu | Fisker: So you are incredibly skilled, so that you are in Nexus for hours? |
| 13:54.29 | nevcairiel | I let two dps die yesterday because they accidentally pulled |
| 13:54.38 | nevcairiel | i usually dont do that, but they were really idiots |
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| 13:55.07 | Stanzilla | Daemona: wtb rogue :p |
| 13:55.26 | Fisker | just think i'll stay in the back fd'ed |
| 13:55.31 | Fisker | then they can't say it's me atleast |
| 13:55.47 | Daemona | Stanzilla post gearscore errrhm wowprogress link to guild *cough* |
| 13:56.16 | SunTsu | Speaking of idiots, in a pug AK yesterday a tank jumped in the middle of a group, pulled 4 outher groups, and quit group after the wipe stating "you all are suckers" |
| 13:56.26 | SunTsu | s/outher/other/ |
| 13:56.35 | Stanzilla | Daemona: world 262, still want that link? :P |
| 13:56.50 | Daemona | do i get a bench for my own? |
| 13:56.59 | Stanzilla | we have..1 rogue |
| 13:57.00 | Stanzilla | so yes |
| 13:59.24 | SunTsu | Daemona: which realm are you on? |
| 13:59.32 | Daemona | currently? |
| 13:59.39 | Daemona | eu-nazjatar |
| 13:59.54 | Daemona | but you won't find my char, cause i renamed to dont get hit by whispers ^^ |
| 14:00.33 | Daemona | impressing fact. obviously noone willed to annoy me figured out my new nick would be in the guild activity log, but then again, not many know about it |
| 14:02.48 | Gnarfoz | the what log? :p |
| 14:03.04 | Gnarfoz | you mean people from your (ex-)own guild? |
| 14:03.32 | Daemona | 90% pants-on-head-retarded |
| 14:03.34 | Daemona | ;) |
| 14:04.10 | Gnarfoz | you're aware that that log is only visible to officers and up? |
| 14:04.35 | Gnarfoz | or you're talking about someone else and I fall into the "not many know about it" category |
| 14:04.40 | Gnarfoz | *something |
| 14:07.01 | Gnarfoz | (actually, having you on friends list would be enough for whoever to track you) |
| 14:07.20 | nevcairiel | they wouldnt know that its you |
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| 14:07.38 | nevcairiel | unless they notice your old nick is missing and only that one is new |
| 14:09.17 | Gnarfoz | of course, but it's kind of obvious *someone* changed their name when you suddenly notice someone on your friends list (who's online) and you don't know how it is |
| 14:10.29 | Gnarfoz | again though, whcich guild activity log was he talking about if not the built-in "guild log" (of which I'm not sure that it shows renames as renames instead of simply replacing all instances of the old name with the new one) |
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| 14:10.49 | nevcairiel | yeah they would see that you left the guild under your new name |
| 14:11.19 | SunTsu | Gnarfoz: That happens to me more often than you would think. I sometimes put people on friendlist and quip playing that toon for months, and after loggin in on it I hardly recognize anybody on the fl |
| 14:14.26 | Fisker | yay |
| 14:14.29 | Fisker | i got through it |
| 14:14.41 | Daemona | the guild log can be viewed by anyone unless our stupid gm played to much with the access rules |
| 14:14.53 | Daemona | i dont even think you can deny access to the log |
| 14:14.54 | Fisker | Shaman burned bloodlust on the second last boss at 20%(lol?), did 200 DPS because his gear was red and ninjaed a spell power ring |
| 14:14.58 | Fisker | yipee |
| 14:14.59 | Daemona | talking about guild information -> guild log |
| 14:16.21 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: awsum |
| 14:17.53 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: ah, slow day today (for my brain :P), I know that log of course, but I only now figured out how it could give you away, heh |
| 14:18.17 | Daemona | tsk, too much snow? brain freeze? |
| 14:18.30 | Gnarfoz | (funnily enough, that log shows "Unknown" for half of the entries in there for us, most of the time) |
| 14:18.42 | Daemona | sidenote: free shipping on authenticators ! |
| 14:18.43 | yoshimo | how many frostemblems drop in icc25 per boss? |
| 14:18.50 | Gnarfoz | I'd like some snow, please share some? it's just cold. |
| 14:18.54 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: 2 |
| 14:18.56 | Daemona | Gnarfoz thats because they transfered off or changed faction |
| 14:19.02 | Gnarfoz | no they didn't |
| 14:19.04 | Daemona | http://i47.tinypic.com/357hird.jpg snow for Gnarfoz |
| 14:19.10 | Gnarfoz | I know, I saw the pic |
| 14:19.14 | Daemona | :D |
| 14:19.20 | SunTsu | if blizzard only would ship authenticators without owning a credit card |
| 14:19.41 | Gnarfoz | it shows unknown for people still in the guild, even people who are only right now... who got promoted/demoted yesterday |
| 14:20.21 | Gnarfoz | really bad implementation I guess ^^ |
| 14:20.47 | Gnarfoz | perhaps it'll work better when they expose that (and other) information to the Armory, come january |
| 14:21.54 | yoshimo | it would be nice if the message "char doesnt exist anymore and was removed from FL" would at least tell , who was removed |
| 14:23.15 | Trela | LONG DRIVE IS LOOOOOOOOONG! |
| 14:23.28 | Gnarfoz | yep, that's annoying, yoshimo |
| 14:24.05 | yoshimo | is there an addon that saves fl and does a comparison? |
| 14:24.23 | nevcairiel | i use friendswithbenefits, i believe it also told me when someone vanished |
| 14:25.20 | Gnarfoz | I only replaced ALS with FWB last week, I'd be pleasantly surprised if I see that feature in action |
| 14:26.03 | Gnarfoz | (had to comment out the redundant adding of alts to my friend list, though, the blizz autocomplete includes them on it's own, doesn't it?) |
| 14:26.11 | yoshimo | ALS? |
| 14:26.24 | Gnarfoz | @project auld-lang-syne |
| 14:26.26 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/auldlangsyne/. AuldLangSyne. Game: WoW. Kemayo (Manager/Author), Shefki (Maintainer). Updated: 133 days ago. Tickets: 8/11 |
| 14:26.36 | Daemona | what was the addon again that was able to mark adds with a specific item by name and mouse-overing? |
| 14:26.39 | Gnarfoz | (if it doesn't, well, then Postal is doing it) |
| 14:26.44 | Daemona | augh RP addon :D |
| 14:26.48 | asmodai | Daemona: magicmarker? |
| 14:26.51 | Gnarfoz | not an RP addon |
| 14:27.01 | Daemona | ;) |
| 14:27.19 | Gnarfoz | and you want MagicMarker, indee |
| 14:27.20 | Gnarfoz | d |
| 14:27.38 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9POCgSRVvf0 |
| 14:27.42 | winkiller | specific item? |
| 14:27.46 | Gnarfoz | (Full House? Boned?) |
| 14:27.46 | Wobin | that looks like it's going to be pretty awesome |
| 14:27.57 | Gnarfoz | he meant 'raid target icon', I guess |
| 14:28.15 | winkiller | k :) |
| 14:28.34 | winkiller | uses shift/ctrl/alt + v for skull,cross,square marks and ignores the rest |
| 14:28.40 | Gnarfoz | whee, Feierabend! |
| 14:28.44 | winkiller | awsum! |
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| 14:28.46 | Daemona | yes indeed |
| 14:28.47 | winkiller | 40min here |
| 14:28.56 | Daemona | it stopped snowing :( |
| 14:28.56 | Gnarfoz | too bad I don't have a job |
| 14:29.02 | nevcairiel | I'm doing home office today \o/ |
| 14:29.04 | SunTsu | I never got the kack of magic marker |
| 14:29.25 | Gnarfoz | (doing http://www.damago.de/seminare/sgb3/hannover_2009_sept_oracle_ocp_mcitp_sql.php currently) |
| 14:29.30 | SunTsu | I still have to hang around for 3 hours.. |
| 14:29.50 | SunTsu | s/kack/knack/ - oviously |
| 14:29.56 | winkiller | :) |
| 14:30.07 | winkiller | What the heck/hell/schnitzel/kack! |
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| 14:30.19 | winkiller | eeeew Oracle |
| 14:30.29 | winkiller | you might add MySQL, Gnarfoz :P |
| 14:30.36 | Daemona | SunTsu kack nap? ;) |
| 14:30.50 | winkiller | hugs his enGB-server |
| 14:31.10 | Kalroth | hugs his KGB-server |
| 14:31.16 | nevcairiel | man wtf is with the mail today, still not here |
| 14:31.30 | winkiller | but I've learnt something in random heroics |
| 14:31.31 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: snoooowwwww |
| 14:31.34 | nevcairiel | its not snowing here |
| 14:31.40 | winkiller | Al'Akir people always came across as elitist bastards in BGs |
| 14:31.53 | winkiller | now in heroics, they really know how to play |
| 14:31.55 | Kalroth | winkiller: maybe it's you thats a poor player! |
| 14:32.21 | winkiller | seems at least in some cases I'll agree with them being elitist bastards now :) |
| 14:32.30 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: it snows somewhere though |
| 14:32.36 | winkiller | maybe it's just because I had 2 ace tanks yesterday |
| 14:32.58 | Kalroth | most tanks are good players, most healers are decent players, most dps are dumb! |
| 14:32.59 | Daemona | Tank 10sec, Heal 1.1min, DPS 11min |
| 14:33.00 | orionshock | hey look at that in ~30mins i made myself a button to randomly switch titles :) |
| 14:33.01 | Daemona | :( |
| 14:33.19 | nevcairiel | that took you 30 mins? |
| 14:33.34 | Daemona | Kalroth i can testify to that |
| 14:33.50 | winkiller | Daemona: I group with a dps as healer -> 5min |
| 14:33.50 | orionshock | http://paste.wowace.com/1559/ |
| 14:33.50 | nevcairiel | thats why i only play tank and heal! |
| 14:33.50 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:33.53 | Kalroth | Daemona: it's true because there are so few healers and even less tanks |
| 14:34.00 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: no rules without exceptions! |
| 14:34.07 | winkiller | Kalroth: then you need to refefine tank. not everyone with def gear is a "tanK" :) |
| 14:34.17 | winkiller | as I've come to see |
| 14:34.27 | winkiller | one died faster on Paletress than I did |
| 14:34.28 | Wobin | who else stacks def? |
| 14:34.30 | Kalroth | no, I define a tank as someone that is able to tank |
| 14:34.53 | Wobin | the best tanks are those who have healer alts |
| 14:34.55 | Wobin | and vice versa |
| 14:34.59 | Kalroth | there are certainly dumb tanks out there, but their main is probably a DPS |
| 14:35.01 | winkiller | so if you're able to tank you're a good player ;) |
| 14:35.15 | winkiller | I can not sign this |
| 14:35.18 | winkiller | because I am dps |
| 14:35.19 | winkiller | :P |
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| 14:35.54 | winkiller | but it does help to see different perspectives indeed |
| 14:35.56 | Kalroth | winkiller: case in point! |
| 14:36.14 | winkiller | then again I can't see why healers say it's so stressful |
| 14:36.22 | winkiller | I find dps more stressful than healing in heroics |
| 14:36.26 | Kalroth | it isn't |
| 14:36.30 | Wobin | well... |
| 14:36.31 | Kalroth | haha, what |
| 14:36.32 | Wobin | maybe now =P |
| 14:36.37 | Wobin | cause you gotta concentrate =P |
| 14:36.38 | Kalroth | DPS is by far the easiest role |
| 14:36.43 | winkiller | "you're out of range" |
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| 14:36.45 | winkiller | "you're out of range" |
| 14:36.52 | Wobin | I doze a lot healing most heroics now =P |
| 14:36.52 | Daemona | enrages. |
| 14:36.52 | Kalroth | ... |
| 14:37.06 | winkiller | maybe it's shammy healing, but I've loved it from the first day |
| 14:37.11 | Daemona | "Someone has declinded the dungeon invite. You have been returned to the front of the dungeon queue." |
| 14:37.14 | miica | winkiller: lol naab move closer |
| 14:37.15 | winkiller | ES, sometimes Riptide, a few LHW |
| 14:37.20 | olafski | so um.. if I register my addon as "AV" and then in a method called AV:OnEnable() I register my events, should they not be unregistered automatically when I type /ace disable autovendor? |
| 14:37.22 | Wobin | I only start paying attention if too much damage is being laid out |
| 14:37.27 | Daemona | waits another 10 minutes. |
| 14:37.33 | winkiller | group with a tank ;) |
| 14:37.46 | Wobin | hm, it should queue the remaining party as one |
| 14:37.55 | Wobin | (or at least that's how I think it should go...) |
| 14:38.05 | olafski | I think it does go like that |
| 14:38.17 | Wobin | that way you're just waiting for one more dps |
| 14:38.22 | Wobin | (or whatever declined) |
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| 14:38.46 | Daemona | Wobin the one declined faster than i could hit accept... |
| 14:38.53 | steev | bleh, wow froze |
| 14:39.03 | steev | i was tracking proof of demise |
| 14:39.19 | steev | told it to open the achievement |
| 14:39.25 | winkiller | needs to write auto-decline addon to annoy people |
| 14:39.43 | winkiller | lol |
| 14:41.01 | steev | i loaded into a dungeon the other day with the tank dc'd |
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| 14:41.26 | Daemona | something is wrong with the dungeon finder, i hit accept and got removed for not accepting?! |
| 14:41.34 | steev | so i switched to my tank spec, and gear (41k hp unbuffed) - said lets start clearing til they come back |
| 14:41.48 | steev | the others in the group were afraid to |
| 14:42.10 | steev | then the healer left |
| 14:42.11 | Wobin | ... |
| 14:42.21 | Wobin | steev, as what class? |
| 14:42.26 | steev | Wobin: death knight |
| 14:42.28 | winkiller | I've seen people shout "failtank" to 30k hp tanks |
| 14:42.29 | winkiller | >< |
| 14:42.31 | Wobin | cause if you say "warlock" I'll hit you =P |
| 14:42.38 | asmodai | Jesus H C. My national railroad company decided that due to the jackshit amount of snow that has fallen there will be *less* trains during the evening commute. :S |
| 14:42.50 | steev | Wobin: no, i actually have a tank set and gear, i tank 10 mans on our off nights |
| 14:42.51 | winkiller | asmodai: sue them! |
| 14:43.01 | Wobin | asmodai, it's a sign to say "Don't go to work" |
| 14:43.03 | steev | almost all of it is 245 stuff from toc25 |
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| 14:44.42 | yoshimo | are the librams they introduced with the new patch better than the old ones? |
| 14:47.25 | arkanes | marginally |
| 14:47.33 | arkanes | except for the holy one, of course |
| 14:47.42 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2768 Frame.lua: The esES translations have been copied over to esMX |
| 14:48.32 | asmodai | Wobin: good thing I don't need the train, but some of my colleagues do. |
| 14:48.47 | asmodai | Wobin: But seriously, it's nothing compared to what we used to have here. |
| 14:50.31 | Daemona | god f**king damn whats up with /lfd putting me always into ahn kahet? |
| 14:51.27 | SunTsu | Daemona: I end up there most of the time, too. Or AN. And I really don't like either of them |
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| 14:55.36 | Wobin | I don't mind AN |
| 14:55.37 | Wobin | it's fast |
| 14:55.44 | Wobin | Old Kingdom is a bastard though |
| 14:56.04 | pentium166 | not really, if you skip the two optional bosses |
| 14:56.42 | pentium166 | i mean it's less badges but it seemed like the people when i went just wanted to get out of there |
| 14:57.08 | Daemona | doing with a dk tank with 28k hp doesnt make it easier |
| 14:57.17 | SunTsu | pentium166: I hate it when part of the group skips and the other part does not want to |
| 14:57.21 | Daemona | especially if he lets mobs hit him from behind |
| 14:57.39 | nevcairiel | besides the 3.3 HCs there isnt a instance i would be worried about a 28k hp tank |
| 14:58.26 | pentium166 | i want to take a guild group and do a dungeon without a proper tank sometime |
| 14:58.35 | Daemona | no what i am worried about is the healer doing more dps than the tank |
| 14:58.36 | SunTsu | as I said earlier, I had a tank jump from the stairways into a group, pull 4 additional groups, and quit after the wipe, telling us that we absolutely sucked |
| 14:58.46 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:58.53 | Wobin | meh |
| 14:58.59 | Wobin | I want to do dungeons for the badges |
| 14:59.08 | Wobin | so skipping bosses is stupid |
| 14:59.10 | nevcairiel | same |
| 14:59.12 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: ToC isn't fun with 28k either |
| 14:59.20 | pentium166 | we had two pulls where he DK's ghoul pulled additional groups doing that |
| 14:59.23 | Fisker | @project sexygroup |
| 14:59.24 | Repo | Fisker: "http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexygroup/. SexyGroup. Game: WoW. Status: Experimental. Pre-mature approval. Apparently it isn't ready for prime-time.\r . Shadowed (Manager/Author), Antiarc (Author). Updated: 29 hours ago" |
| 14:59.25 | Wobin | If I was -really- sick of the instance, I'd just drop group |
| 14:59.25 | nevcairiel | SunTsu: done it without problems really |
| 14:59.44 | nevcairiel | Wobin: i drop group in occulus usually .. i've been there so often already the last week |
| 14:59.54 | pentium166 | first one i was like "where is all this damage coming from!" but i saw it coming the second time |
| 15:00.03 | steev | which bosses have red winter hats and which have green? |
| 15:00.14 | nevcairiel | that bitch in nexus has red |
| 15:00.15 | steev | does the last boss in Scholo have a red hat? |
| 15:00.23 | steev | doesn't* |
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| 15:02.15 | olafski | suntsu: I did ToC with 27k without any issues yesterday |
| 15:02.28 | winkiller | toc depends on so many factors |
| 15:02.42 | winkiller | I totally failed with a perfectly fine tank yesterday afternoon |
| 15:02.55 | winkiller | and with a worse tank aced it 2 weeks before |
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| 15:03.41 | pentium166 | i want to do dungeons on my feral but he has like 23k unbuffed hp in tank gear :( |
| 15:03.58 | pentium166 | rocking the season 4 pants |
| 15:03.59 | winkiller | ez. go dps :P |
| 15:04.03 | SunTsu | olafski: I didn't say it was impossible, but with the first three bosses and the black knight there are many ways it can go wrong and more health can compensate a little bit |
| 15:04.47 | pentium166 | i do, winkiller, but queues tank longer and i don't mind tanking |
| 15:04.57 | Wobin | there's a lot of range in ToC for being such a small instance |
| 15:05.05 | Xtek | .Mornin' |
| 15:05.06 | pentium166 | i just haven't done much of it since wotlk hit |
| 15:07.20 | olafski | so um.. to say something slightly on topic, |
| 15:07.23 | olafski | if I register my addon as "AV" and then in a method called AV:OnEnable() I register my events, should they not be unregistered automatically when I type /ace disable autovendor? |
| 15:07.47 | SunTsu | I think I will revive my DK as tank on the weekend and start gearing him up again ta |
| 15:24.02 | Gnarfoz | < winkiller> you might add MySQL, Gnarfoz :P <-- why would I, I'm trying to improve my chances of getting a job, so I'll stick with the certs for the fastest and the most widely used DBMS if I can get them for free :O |
| 15:24.32 | Gnarfoz | (also, there's nobody out there who's doing mysql certs in cooperation with our lovely Arbeitsagentur ;)) |
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| 15:30.31 | asmodai | Friends don't let friends use MySQL |
| 15:36.08 | Fisker | http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16891/1/ |
| 15:36.18 | Fisker | "PhotoDNA is being incorporated into Microsoft's Bing search engine" |
| 15:36.24 | Fisker | Neat i can find child porn on bing?! |
| 15:36.25 | Fisker | :D |
| 15:38.24 | Megalon | just move to germany |
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| 15:38.33 | Megalon | their internet is just clustered with childporn |
| 15:39.34 | airtonix | asmodai, rationale ? |
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| 15:45.04 | Gnarfoz | @project mapster |
| 15:45.05 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mapster/. Mapster. Game: WoW. Nevcairiel (Manager/Author). Updated: 5 hours ago. Tickets: 1/27 |
| 15:45.14 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: wheee mapster errors :O |
| 15:45.20 | nevcairiel | you broke it! |
| 15:45.43 | Gnarfoz | actually, I only updated it :( |
| 15:46.19 | nevcairiel | I'll trade you a fix for a Quel'Delar token, deal? |
| 15:46.56 | Gnarfoz | how about this: I spam tickets with error reports instead? ;D |
| 15:47.06 | nevcairiel | but i need a new weapon :( |
| 15:47.36 | olafski | meh too ;< |
| 15:47.41 | Gnarfoz | me three |
| 15:48.15 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: http://paste.wowace.com/1560/ |
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| 15:52.57 | Fisker | can't you raid nevcairiel ? |
| 15:53.06 | nevcairiel | not with my DK alt =P |
| 15:53.22 | nevcairiel | its still in mostly ilvl 200 gear |
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| 15:54.53 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: you still need that saronite from icc or am I mistaken? |
| 15:55.07 | nevcairiel | for QD? nah |
| 15:55.38 | SunTsu | ah, then I mixed up something |
| 15:56.05 | Gnarfoz | that's Shadowmourne ;) |
| 15:57.08 | SunTsu | well, with my drop luck I won't have either ;) |
| 15:57.45 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.3-1-g8926670 Mapster.lua: [+1 commit] Add a check if coordinates are valid before trying to convert them. |
| 15:57.52 | nevcairiel | Shadowmourne also requires some legendary token drops again |
| 15:58.00 | nevcairiel | with the saronite you just build some epic weapon |
| 15:58.00 | Fisker | which sucks |
| 15:58.06 | nevcairiel | which you then can transform into shadowmourne |
| 15:58.08 | Fisker | i want it this expansion :( |
| 15:58.11 | nevcairiel | if you have those legendary things |
| 15:58.51 | Gnarfoz | everyone knows ;o |
| 15:59.24 | Gnarfoz | Sklavenunterkümpfte! |
| 15:59.30 | Gnarfoz | seriously =( |
| 16:00.14 | steev | SunTsu: we had our first piece of saronite drop in ICC 25 |
| 16:00.34 | steev | the other 2h dk in our guild gets shadowmourne |
| 16:00.59 | steev | but i'm still collecting mats and whatnot |
| 16:01.02 | nevcairiel | anyway, gotta buy soem food, bbl |
| 16:01.07 | Stanzilla | one dk on my server already has 10 saronite -.- |
| 16:01.20 | SunTsu | I don't think I will ever be in ICC, just like I haven't been to TotC |
| 16:01.22 | steev | Stanzilla: not that hard - its actually fairly inexpensive on our server |
| 16:01.31 | steev | 3500 per saronite |
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| 16:02.31 | quiescens | run awai |
| 16:02.34 | steev | its what, 3 frost emblems per boss (so, 24 if you do both 10 and 25), 5 per weekly raid, 14 for doing a random every day |
| 16:02.47 | steev | and they only cost 23 |
| 16:04.19 | Gnarfoz | 2 per boss |
| 16:04.28 | steev | so 16 |
| 16:05.07 | steev | enough to buy 2 per week |
| 16:05.19 | Stanzilla | I have 66 emblems of frost |
| 16:05.20 | Stanzilla | I think |
| 16:07.35 | nevcairiel | and you can even collect on other chars as well |
| 16:07.42 | steev | yep |
| 16:07.55 | steev | i'd be plenty happy with just getting Shadow's Edge |
| 16:07.59 | Kaelten | Torhal_: we have a volunteer? |
| 16:08.10 | steev | i'm collecting the emblems on 3 characters |
| 16:08.16 | quiescens | grats |
| 16:09.36 | steev | albiet, slowly since I'm not going into ICC with 2 of them |
| 16:09.44 | steev | and slower still because i bought the sigil |
| 16:09.54 | quiescens | sounds like excuses to me |
| 16:10.12 | steev | still not sure if its worth it really, only seems around 200 dps more than previous sigil |
| 16:10.30 | nevcairiel | 200 dps is 200 dps |
| 16:10.35 | olafski | yeah, for free :P |
| 16:10.44 | quiescens | 200 dps gain is a lot for one slot |
| 16:10.47 | steev | 25 emblems of frost is hardly "free" |
| 16:10.55 | nevcairiel | in two month it will be |
| 16:11.02 | steev | well yeah, in 2 months |
| 16:11.52 | steev | but in 3 is the expansion :-P |
| 16:12.08 | nevcairiel | already? and i'm not prepared |
| 16:12.23 | steev | damn it |
| 16:12.28 | steev | stop f'n giving me mistletoe |
| 16:12.59 | Gnarfoz | haha cataclysm in 3 months |
| 16:13.01 | olafski | haha |
| 16:13.07 | olafski | I had the opposite steev :( |
| 16:13.09 | Gnarfoz | 3*3 months, perhaps |
| 16:13.12 | olafski | kept getting anything but mistletoe |
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| 16:28.00 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6884 Citadel (2 files in 1 directory): Citadel/DW_Trash: Remove a useless extra function. |
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| 16:43.15 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v4.0.2.5 * r427 : Tagging as v4.0.2.5 |
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| 16:46.03 | nicoli_s | i seriously doubt cataclysm is in 3 months |
| 16:46.12 | nicoli_s | itll be like 2+ months till people get to the lich king |
| 16:46.19 | nicoli_s | and then theres another patch with a raid boss |
| 16:48.05 | Gnarfoz | LK will be reachable 1st week of February *shrug* |
| 16:48.16 | Gnarfoz | and there's no other patch with a raidboss planned |
| 16:48.36 | Gnarfoz | unless you're talking about Toravon/Season 8, which is just another faceroll-and-loot boss in VoA |
| 16:48.47 | genetik- | i thought chilton said they might put in a short raid boss before cataclysm |
| 16:50.36 | durcyn | chilton needs to be launched into the sun |
| 16:51.37 | genetik- | heh |
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| 16:52.48 | KriLL3 | people still want you to link achi for VoA |
| 16:53.29 | genetik- | so dumb |
| 16:58.24 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6885 Plugins/Broadcast.lua: |
| 16:58.26 | Repo | always broadcast to party in party, since raidwarning nolonger works |
| 16:59.37 | genetik- | i don't like that they removed raid warnings from non-raids without making a party warning or something |
| 16:59.52 | [Ammo] | yeah it sucks |
| 17:00.04 | durcyn | the problem was, anyone in a party could spam raidwarning, so instead of fixing it for only leader or something, they just clobbered it |
| 17:00.10 | [Ammo] | but BW will now just push it to party if you're broadcasting |
| 17:00.23 | genetik- | durcyn: i don't see that as an issue |
| 17:00.42 | genetik- | if they're that interested in spamming something, they could just as easily spam party chat |
| 17:01.24 | genetik- | either way, if it wasn't a friend, they'd probably find themselves out of the party and onto my ignore list |
| 17:01.41 | olafski | it's annoying that we can't do that anymore for sure |
| 17:01.52 | olafski | if I want to have people's attention during a fight, party chat doesn't really work well |
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| 17:01.57 | genetik- | right |
| 17:02.00 | olafski | /p STOP DPS!!!!! |
| 17:02.03 | olafski | nobody stops.. :) |
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| 17:02.19 | genetik- | /rw adds |
| 17:02.22 | genetik- | stuff like that |
| 17:02.34 | olafski | yer |
| 17:02.53 | quiescens | if someone really wants to disrupt a group |
| 17:03.25 | quiescens | there are more serious concerns to worry about than being worried they'll spam /rw |
| 17:04.19 | genetik- | exactly |
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| 17:05.53 | dstufft | wait |
| 17:05.57 | dstufft | they removed /rw from partys? |
| 17:06.22 | genetik- | yes |
| 17:08.21 | olafski | when requesting a new username, must I enter 2 and 3? if my #1 isn't available I'd like to keep my current name ;) |
| 17:08.45 | dstufft | wow thats lame /rw was really useful |
| 17:09.10 | genetik- | well, technically i don't think it should have ever been enabled in parties |
| 17:09.18 | genetik- | _but_, they should have had a /pw |
| 17:09.19 | Repo | 10head-count: 03JerryBlade * r106 / (5 files in 2 directories): HeadCount: |
| 17:09.21 | Repo | - Added Placeholder for Gunship Horde and Gunship Alliance Trigger Text (I still need to actual text if anyone has it) |
| 17:09.45 | dstufft | semantics really /pw woulda been exactly the same as /rw with a different alias |
| 17:09.59 | genetik- | <3 semantics |
| 17:09.59 | olafski | well, perhaps you could use /pw in raids too, to warn only your party |
| 17:10.09 | dstufft | hm |
| 17:10.10 | dstufft | TRUE |
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| 17:26.35 | Repo | 10head-count: 03JerryBlade * r107 / (5 files in 2 directories): HeadCount: |
| 17:26.36 | Repo | - Added the Gunship Battle Trigger Texts for both Alliance and Horde (untested) |
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| 17:40.30 | yoshimo | does mobspells work correctly for lady deathwhisper ? i see a lot of spells on her list... |
| 17:42.21 | genetik- | she does a lot of things |
| 17:44.44 | asmodai | cooking too? |
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| 17:45.04 | nevcairiel | in her time off, possibly |
| 17:45.20 | nevcairiel | although female lichs are weird |
| 17:45.42 | winkiller | anyone noticed any change with clique and 3.3 |
| 17:45.54 | winkiller | can't find the option to make it work on Blizz Raidframes |
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| 17:50.11 | ulic | Clad sais it was added, "add click casting for focus-target and boss frames" |
| 17:50.43 | winkiller | well no, talking about your raidmembers |
| 17:50.47 | winkiller | it used to work in 3.2 |
| 17:54.16 | winkiller | ok, wildly clicking through configs, selecting frames that aren't raidframes and re-binding Cleanse helped it seems |
| 17:54.21 | winkiller | filing it under weird |
| 17:59.26 | Fisker | seriously |
| 17:59.26 | Fisker | wtf |
| 18:00.01 | Fisker | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/21726119617-ashen-verdicit-rep.html <-gotta be kidding me |
| 18:01.48 | genetik- | hah |
| 18:02.09 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 18:02.17 | nevcairiel | not more then 4 rewards from a quest, eh |
| 18:02.57 | KriLL3 | why the flying excrement on a twig isn't there a quest to turn in one of the rings for a strength one in that case? |
| 18:03.16 | yoshimo | technical issues? LOL |
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| 18:03.32 | arkanes_ | probably because, unlike the player base, Blizzard HQ did not erupt in cries of "THATS NOT FAIR" when they made the quest |
| 18:04.05 | KriLL3 | guess none of them play a class that needs str, weird, since I thought half of them were retri paladins |
| 18:04.11 | arkanes_ | ah yes |
| 18:04.24 | nevcairiel | they wouldnt use such an ugly work around |
| 18:04.30 | arkanes_ | obviously thats what happened |
| 18:04.30 | nevcairiel | they would rather skip one ring |
| 18:04.49 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: well ugly workaround is better than none imo |
| 18:05.01 | arkanes_ | KriLL3: sure, because you're butthurt about not having a ring |
| 18:05.13 | arkanes_ | but they don't have the emotional investment in you getting a ring that you do |
| 18:05.21 | KriLL3 | doubt i'll ever get any rep with that faction, since I don't raid |
| 18:05.51 | arkanes_ | people have been complaining about itemizations for as long as theres been wow |
| 18:05.52 | arkanes_ | longer! |
| 18:05.54 | pentium166 | clearly putting it on a vendor and letting hybrids have different types of rings is overpowered |
| 18:05.58 | Repo | 10broker_playtimer: 03mscottforbes * r12 / (6 files in 2 directories): * Code cleanup -- now with comments! |
| 18:06.00 | Repo | * Many global functions and variables converted to locals instead. |
| 18:06.01 | Repo | * Fixed a bug where PlayTimer was causing the output of the "/played" command to display in the chat window on startup. |
| 18:06.03 | Repo | * Added enUS and enGB localizations, for all you "colour" fans. |
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| 18:06.10 | arkanes_ | pentium166: maybe they just don't care that much |
| 18:06.34 | pentium166 | then again all the crafted/vendor mail from icecrown has arpen on it except one item |
| 18:06.37 | pentium166 | yay shamans! |
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| 18:12.17 | steev | wtf |
| 18:12.45 | steev | http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/gadget.png http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/gadgetwhat.png |
| 18:13.26 | steev | my map of gadget is *way* off |
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| 18:25.24 | Repo | 10broker_lfd: 03ulic 04v1.1 * r22 : Tagging as v1.1 |
| 18:25.26 | Repo | - When not queued Left-Click opens LFD and Right-Click opens LFR |
| 18:25.27 | Repo | - Fixed the DropDownMenu so that it stays on the screen no matter where you place the Broker module. |
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| 18:39.34 | steev | only seem to have issues in kalimdor though |
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| 18:42.35 | Fisker | to be fair KriLL3 |
| 18:42.46 | KriLL3 | I'm never fair |
| 18:42.55 | Fisker | an agi ring is the best for both |
| 18:43.31 | Daemona | anyone know an addon to track who you pugged a raid with? |
| 18:43.56 | Daemona | i kinda lost track of who i was pugging with in my twinks and spamming IDs in LFG is not really helpful :D |
| 18:44.12 | Daemona | perferably not a full blown up raid tracker :X |
| 18:47.08 | airtonix | Daemona, addon : doIknowyou |
| 18:47.48 | Daemona | just to make sure "do i know you" right? |
| 18:48.22 | airtonix | Daemona, that is the simple one (not exact spelling) but there is also another full fledged one |
| 18:49.15 | Daemona | woah is that still in a working state? google links me over to wowace.com with a timestamp from last year sometime ^^ |
| 18:49.27 | airtonix | i don't see why it wouldn't |
| 18:49.47 | airtonix | you'd need to test ('obviously you would tick load out of date addons' ) |
| 18:50.23 | Daemona | looked at it, i am more looking for something automatically tracking who were grouped with me when the "saved to instance" happens |
| 18:50.34 | Daemona | and not manual set player notes :X |
| 18:51.01 | KriLL3 | Daemona: hire a gnome to take notes |
| 18:51.10 | airtonix | Daemona, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8712-KarmaplayertrackingLFGtool.html |
| 18:51.12 | Daemona | i gonna eat said gnome |
| 18:51.32 | airtonix | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8821-DoIKnowYou.html |
| 18:51.50 | Primer | Anyone know the path to the current readycheck sound? |
| 18:52.09 | Daemona | aah awesome :) |
| 18:55.00 | ulic | ReadyCheck.xml says <OnShow>PlaySound("LFG_DungeonReady")</OnShow> |
| 18:55.41 | ulic | yea I realize that is not the path |
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| 19:04.50 | Primer | ulic: you talking about that readycheck addon? |
| 19:05.42 | Primer | I found this text file with all the sounds in the game |
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| 19:08.02 | Primer | you'd thing that ReadyCheck.wav would be the sound...but it's not |
| 19:08.23 | Primer | can't find the file now...it had the full path, which I think was Sounds/Interface/ReadyCheck.wav |
| 19:09.00 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r91 / (2 files in 1 directory): TOC bump for 3.3.0 |
| 19:09.02 | Repo | Added "Trash"-boss for ICC. |
| 19:09.03 | Repo | Renamed "The Deathbringer" to "Deathbringer Saurfang" for ICC. |
| 19:11.23 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone 041.9.0 * r92 : Tagging as 1.9.0 |
| 19:11.25 | Repo | Release for Icecrown Citadel. |
| 19:13.17 | VonhintenHOME` | You know, the changes to rogue philosophy, speccing into heavy poisons and using instant instead of wound... I don't think I like that |
| 19:13.42 | VonhintenHOME` | I might have to find a nearly as high DPS spec that let's me keep using wound |
| 19:18.09 | Daemona | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/21726119617-ashen-verdicit-rep.html |
| 19:18.12 | Daemona | haha |
| 19:18.51 | VonhintenHOME` | wow, that's fail |
| 19:19.06 | VonhintenHOME` | I swear I've seen 6 different quest options |
| 19:19.28 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?quests&filter=cr=23;crs=1;crv=4 |
| 19:19.30 | Megalon | 175 quests |
| 19:19.36 | Megalon | where you can choose between > 4 rewards |
| 19:19.56 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, looks like 6 is the max |
| 19:21.18 | Fisker | I doubt that's all there's to it Megalon |
| 19:21.23 | ckknight | waves at the nice people |
| 19:21.33 | Megalon | kills the rest |
| 19:21.38 | Fisker | probably have something to do with the ring change quest |
| 19:22.05 | Megalon | then make it a vendor |
| 19:22.08 | Megalon | and only quests |
| 19:22.15 | Megalon | to exchange a ring back to a token |
| 19:23.30 | Fisker | Well hopefully tommorrow someone will reiterate what is wrong :P |
| 19:23.33 | KriLL3 | Megalon: way too sensible |
| 19:23.52 | VonhintenHOME` | It's a pretty ridiculous arguement, they could just make a second quest with 4 other options |
| 19:24.48 | Shadowed | VonhintenHOME` they have quests with more than 4 options regardless |
| 19:24.53 | ckknight | what's the best race for an alliance pally? |
| 19:24.57 | VonhintenHOME` | I know |
| 19:25.00 | Fisker | then you could probably do both VonhintenHOME` |
| 19:25.04 | Fisker | btw |
| 19:25.04 | Shadowed | melee, dps or tank ckknight |
| 19:25.08 | Shadowed | er |
| 19:25.10 | Shadowed | dps, healer, tank |
| 19:25.11 | Fisker | what's up with no dual-spec quests? :( |
| 19:25.14 | Fisker | i want a tank and dps ring |
| 19:25.15 | Fisker | NOW |
| 19:25.20 | ckknight | Shadowed: tank, off-spec healer |
| 19:25.24 | VonhintenHOME` | They do a lot of things intentionally to manipulate the game... like not putting in a tanking dalaran ring... |
| 19:25.48 | KriLL3 | VonhintenHOME`: what is the reason for that? |
| 19:25.52 | Shadowed | VonhintenHOME` they can only add 23.4 items to a vendor |
| 19:25.58 | ckknight | Shadowed: also if it's different from healer, off-spec tank, I'd like to know |
| 19:26.06 | VonhintenHOME` | lol shadowed |
| 19:26.30 | VonhintenHOME` | KriLL3, I can only guess, but they have said they won't be doing it |
| 19:26.36 | Shadowed | I would think Draenei or Human are best |
| 19:26.38 | Stanzilla | ckknight: draenei for the +1% hit |
| 19:26.49 | VonhintenHOME` | If I had to guess, it's because they want tanks to stay interested in acquiring those pieces |
| 19:26.51 | ckknight | hmm |
| 19:26.54 | Shadowed | Night Elfs are best tank racial overall if i recall |
| 19:26.55 | Stanzilla | human for better looks and reputation bonus +2 exp on swords |
| 19:26.57 | VonhintenHOME` | They have to manage tank shortages |
| 19:26.57 | Shadowed | but, you can't be a Paladin so |
| 19:27.30 | ckknight | hmm |
| 19:27.44 | ckknight | Stanzilla: imo, Draenei look better than Human |
| 19:27.45 | ckknight | :P |
| 19:27.50 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 19:27.52 | Shadowed | that too |
| 19:27.52 | ckknight | so do dwarves just suck, then? |
| 19:27.55 | KriLL3 | they're big, blue and have tails |
| 19:28.00 | ckknight | KriLL3: rawr |
| 19:28.12 | VonhintenHOME` | no, dwarves can remove bleed effects, has been useful in the past |
| 19:28.50 | Shadowed | but you have to be a dwarve |
| 19:28.54 | VonhintenHOME` | But, imo, human or none. 10% rep > * |
| 19:28.57 | Shadowed | s/dwarve/dwarf/ |
| 19:29.26 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: :P |
| 19:29.42 | Stanzilla | dwarves are ewww |
| 19:30.37 | KriLL3 | dwarves are nice if you have a crappy guild tabard that you're forced to wear |
| 19:30.47 | KriLL3 | their beards hides all of it |
| 19:31.50 | Shadowed | Reputation bonus is nice, but if you aren't really that hardcore of a player it doesn't exactly matter |
| 19:32.08 | ckknight | <-- not hardcore |
| 19:32.18 | VonhintenHOME` | well, you also get every man for themself |
| 19:32.24 | Shadowed | true |
| 19:32.28 | Fisker | one thing that's pretty awesome is the 125 rep you get for making shadowmourne |
| 19:32.30 | Shadowed | Do you PVP ckk? |
| 19:32.31 | Fisker | that'll come in handy |
| 19:32.35 | nicoli_s | ckknight lies, we all know you have dozens of level 100 characters |
| 19:32.57 | ckknight | Shadowed: I enjoy it, but I'm not huge on it |
| 19:33.12 | ckknight | but I definitely do enjoy battlegrounds and such |
| 19:34.12 | Shadowed | Draenei have good tank racials and the HoT is decent although not game changing last I looked and the aura is a boost to your group |
| 19:34.28 | Shadowed | Humans have decent tank racials, but they are weapon dependant |
| 19:34.40 | Shadowed | they also get a PVP trinket as a racial basically, and a reputation boost |
| 19:34.43 | KriLL3 | I enjoy standing on the frozen lake in AV stealthed, and waiting for some coward rogue cheap shotting a guy in blues, and pouncing on em |
| 19:35.05 | Shadowed | Draenei's your best bet for having the best tank racial I'd say |
| 19:35.15 | Primer | jnwhiteh: btw, I found a typo in TomTom |
| 19:35.24 | Primer | ./TomTom_Config.lua:desc = L["This option will not remove any waypoints that are currently set to persist, but only effects new waypoints that get set"], |
| 19:35.30 | Shadowed | Personally I would tell you it doesn't matter since you aren't hardcore, you don't exactly get screwed no matter which you choose |
| 19:35.30 | Primer | should be affects |
| 19:35.34 | Shadowed | choose the one you won't hate looking at :P |
| 19:35.57 | ckknight | Draenei it is |
| 19:36.00 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: like trolls? lawl. |
| 19:36.11 | Shadowed | pretty much |
| 19:37.20 | Pneumatus | nelfs have the best tank racial rly |
| 19:37.52 | Pneumatus | wisp spirt :) |
| 19:37.58 | Primer | bwahaha |
| 19:38.00 | pentium166 | shadowmeld onto dps you don't like? |
| 19:38.24 | Pneumatus | the dodge racial realistically, but the other two are far funnier as tank racials :) |
| 19:39.16 | KriLL3 | you can still kill dps without shadowmeld, but yeah it would be useful |
| 19:39.42 | KriLL3 | I especially like letting the warrior that charges the pack I just fearie fired and does bladestorm instantly |
| 19:39.47 | genetik- | i couldn't imagine not having escape artist as a tank |
| 19:40.09 | KriLL3 | genetik-: ferals can shift, though admittedly we'd need to be quick |
| 19:40.20 | genetik- | true |
| 19:40.46 | Pneumatus | humans can trinket |
| 19:41.16 | Pneumatus | warriors can warbringer charge |
| 19:41.29 | genetik- | of course |
| 19:44.46 | mitchnull | hey, someone fixed acetab? |
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| 19:45.52 | mitchnull | ah, no |
| 19:51.05 | Torhal_ | Kaelten: No, no volunteer. |
| 19:51.20 | Kaelten | awe |
| 19:51.45 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic 04v3.3.1 * r710 : (Message trimmed by 5 lines) |
| 19:51.47 | Repo | Tagging as v3.3.1 |
| 19:51.48 | Repo | - Fix Mirrored Soul Message (Devourer) |
| 19:51.49 | Repo | - Reduced message for Corrupted Flesh (Marwyn) |
| 19:51.50 | Repo | - Added Wailing Soul warning (Devourer) |
| 19:54.10 | olafski | (sorry for the crosspost:) |
| 19:54.11 | olafski | I'm having a little trouble figuring out how to add my "profiles" options as a sub-category to the options instead of inside the rest of my options.. could anyone point me to how to do that? |
| 19:55.55 | mitchnull | olfaski: I'm sure you can find other examples as well |
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| 19:56.19 | olafski | yeah a bunch of my addons have it |
| 19:56.23 | olafski | but I couldn't figure out how they did it :< |
| 19:57.48 | Repo | 10loremstr (experimental): 03Scisto * r37 / (2 files in 1 directory): Leaving work commit |
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| 19:59.41 | olafski | mitchnull: not to complain but all that fiddling with functions etc, is that really necessary? can't I just put it in my OnInitialize() and be done with it? |
| 20:01.11 | mitchnull | olafski: well, PTTL has LoD options, doesn't it? (don't remember :) |
| 20:01.19 | olafski | yeah it does seem to have that |
| 20:01.25 | mitchnull | yeah, well. |
| 20:01.29 | mitchnull | that's why the fiddling |
| 20:01.33 | olafski | hm |
| 20:01.39 | olafski | looks a bit complicated for me :$ |
| 20:01.47 | mitchnull | yeah, forget that part |
| 20:02.23 | Torhal_ | Kaelten: I thought Shadowed had volunteered, but then after I told him I'd inform you, he said he'd write a script to automatically approve everything. |
| 20:02.26 | mitchnull | all you need is the stuff that happens in registerSubOptions() |
| 20:02.49 | Torhal | At that point, I knew I'd been had. |
| 20:02.53 | Torhal | hangs his head. |
| 20:02.53 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:05.10 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lib-stonegui/. Stone GUI Library. zys924 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 20:05.15 | Torhal | I'm very dubious about that one... |
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| 20:05.57 | ckknight | Torhal: that's why we have experimental :) |
| 20:06.21 | Torhal | Exactly |
| 20:06.54 | Shadowed | Kaelten the script will give you less backtalk than Torhal does |
| 20:07.01 | Mikk | stone. rock. stone. rock... is zys924 ckk's nom de plume? =) |
| 20:07.10 | Torhal | Less backtalk, more lawsuits! |
| 20:07.17 | Shadowed | wow |
| 20:07.26 | Shadowed | this Stone GUI Library sounds terrible |
| 20:07.39 | Shadowed | It basically sounds like a copy of AceGUI |
| 20:07.45 | Shadowed | but by some guy I've never heard of |
| 20:07.59 | Mikk | No, it's not that either |
| 20:08.03 | Mikk | AceGUI APIs exist for a reason |
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| 20:08.13 | Mikk | So that "any kind of object" can be moved and sized |
| 20:08.21 | Mikk | This is just needless wrapping because he happens to like OO |
| 20:08.23 | Shadowed | It sounds like a bad copy of AceGUI |
| 20:08.30 | Torhal | Like I said - dubious. |
| 20:08.50 | Torhal | And he has no files, which makes delving in impossible, |
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| 20:10.52 | ckknight | let him do what he wants |
| 20:11.00 | ckknight | just don't approve it properly on wowace |
| 20:11.01 | ckknight | :P |
| 20:11.17 | Torhal | Move and approve! |
| 20:11.21 | ckknight | unless: he comes on IRC, documents everything, and shows that it has a point |
| 20:11.25 | Torhal | Yah |
| 20:11.44 | Torhal | I'm seeing quite a few lately that aren't even on the forums, much less IRC. |
| 20:12.04 | ckknight | then they probably don't belong on wowace. |
| 20:12.08 | ckknight | especially libraries |
| 20:12.11 | ckknight | for libraries, take the hard line |
| 20:12.52 | Shadowed | does that mean you can delete LibForalwahtever |
| 20:13.07 | nevcairiel | we had quite soem drama about library aprovals on the forums already =p |
| 20:13.11 | Torhal | I've been hearing that someone was moving it to CF before I was even a mod. |
| 20:13.31 | Torhal | LibLordFarlander |
| 20:13.53 | olafski | I stared at it forever and figured it out mitchnull, thanks! :) |
| 20:13.57 | Kaelten | I hate migraines |
| 20:14.08 | Shadowed | Isn't that implied |
| 20:14.12 | Shadowed | I don't think anyone likes migraines |
| 20:14.25 | durcyn | i don't mind them when other people have them |
| 20:14.26 | Kaelten | well it could be a fucked up fetish |
| 20:14.30 | Shadowed | true |
| 20:14.35 | Shadowed | I am glad we know you are normal now Kaelten |
| 20:14.36 | durcyn | schadenfreude, etc |
| 20:15.07 | Kaelten | Shadowed: not sure I'd go that far, but ya, not that far gone |
| 20:15.14 | Shadowed | normal-ish |
| 20:15.16 | Torhal | Shadowed: Some of my favorite LordFarlander stuff, though, is "BattlegroundFu for Broker" and "GarbageFu for Broker". |
| 20:15.19 | Kaelten | quasi normal |
| 20:15.24 | mitchnull | olafski: :) |
| 20:15.25 | Shadowed | Torhal hahah |
| 20:15.48 | mitchnull | do not delete LibLordFarlander please |
| 20:16.02 | Shadowed | Good point, move it to a wall of shame |
| 20:16.05 | mitchnull | I always chuckle a bit when repo mentions it :) |
| 20:16.17 | Shadowed | "If you do this, we will run you out of town" |
| 20:16.49 | Torhal | Repo needs hooks, so it can /facepalm and whatnot. |
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| 20:16.55 | mitchnull | hehe |
| 20:17.49 | Shadowed | awesome is realizing that the reasno this match isn't working is I spelled the variable wrong |
| 20:18.26 | Kaelten | Shadowed: ya an active scanning static analyizer to catch stuff like that would be awesome |
| 20:19.02 | Shadowed | yea |
| 20:19.14 | Torhal | luac -l|grep GLOBAL|less |
| 20:19.21 | Shadowed | this was in wowlua :p |
| 20:19.28 | Torhal | Bah |
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| 20:33.30 | ckknight | what's the best addon for selling grays? |
| 20:35.06 | Pneumatus | i still use automaton |
| 20:35.34 | Pneumatus | does a bunch of other things than just selling greys though |
| 20:35.46 | Megalon | ckknight: http://paste.wowace.com/1563/ |
| 20:36.00 | Nechckn | automagic is included with the Auctioneer Suite and can do that, too. ;-) |
| 20:36.13 | ckknight | hehe, Megalon |
| 20:36.28 | ckknight | Pneumatus: hmm, I thought that stopped working, I could be wrong |
| 20:36.34 | Megalon | that's somewhere in my myrandomthings addon ;x |
| 20:36.53 | ckknight | Megalon: what else you got in there? |
| 20:36.54 | Pneumatus | it was erroring for a while ages ago, but weab fixed it up i think |
| 20:38.29 | Hjalte | ckknight: tekJunkSeller |
| 20:38.56 | ckknight | I downloaded SellJunk |
| 20:38.59 | ckknight | seems to do what I want |
| 20:39.02 | Pneumatus | http://paste.wowace.com/1564/ is my most favorite snipit of code in my randomstuff addon :) |
| 20:39.17 | sb|work | [Ammo]: oRA3-291\modules\Cooldowns.lua:550: attempt to index local 'c' (a nil value) |
| 20:40.26 | Megalon | ckknight: it's just random, simplechatmods stripped down the things I don't need, and I started Ailo there |
| 20:40.34 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:40.39 | Megalon | which was just a little db of which chars were saved where |
| 20:40.46 | Megalon | and a function to echo to a chatframe |
| 20:41.00 | Megalon | until a few friends said, oh cool, giev plx |
| 20:50.13 | Fisker | we were on a boat |
| 20:52.41 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2470 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: - small bugfix |
| 20:52.43 | Repo | - small loot update |
| 20:55.12 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * ce5d227 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] use some secure hooks instead of rawhooks in the MapSupport to stop tainting and screwing with the map someone else please verify that this works for them too |
| 20:56.02 | Yssaril | Fisker: try that |
| 20:56.09 | asmodai | Yssaril: Is it on CC yet? :) |
| 20:56.48 | Fisker | you lost my trust Yssaril :( |
| 20:56.53 | Fisker | @project yssbossloot |
| 20:56.56 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/yssbossloot/. YssBossLoot. Game: WoW. yssaril (Manager/Author). Updated: 15 hours ago. Tickets: 3/13 |
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| 20:57.27 | Yssaril | asmodai: no idea never tried to download it via the CC :P |
| 20:57.37 | Fisker | btw |
| 20:57.44 | Fisker | locations are wrong in Utgarde Keep as well |
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| 20:57.52 | Yssaril | Fisker: you shouldn't trust people that you don't know :P |
| 20:58.38 | Silowyi | so my server naming scheme is "dragons from dragonlance" |
| 20:59.05 | Silowyi | our cluster is named Tahkisis, after the 5-headed goddess dragon of evil (known as Tiamat in other D&D worlds) |
| 20:59.17 | Silowyi | but I'm having trouble deciding what to name the virtual machines that run on Takhisis |
| 20:59.32 | Silowyi | red, white, blue... just doesn't sound right :P |
| 20:59.55 | Silowyi | any ideas? |
| 21:01.07 | olafski | < ckknight> what's the best addon for selling grays? <-- AutoVendor *runs* |
| 21:03.34 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r20 / (3 files in 2 directories): updated frFR, handled callbacks (I hope) |
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| 21:04.13 | Myrroddin | hello hello |
| 21:05.49 | ckknight | hello! |
| 21:07.22 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * bf9774f WorldMapSupport.lua: [+1 commit] should probably change bosses on dungeon level change :P (Thanks Fisker) |
| 21:07.22 | asmodai | hmm, buddies of mine just put their teaser trailer online: |
| 21:07.25 | asmodai | http://www.nucleardawnthegame.com/ |
| 21:07.40 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6886 Citadel (4 files in 2 directories): Citadel/Marrowgar: add engage trigger |
| 21:09.38 | olafski | reminds me of that other game that tried fps and rts ;) |
| 21:10.26 | olafski | forgot the name though :< |
| 21:10.39 | Silowyi | Natural Selection? the HL mod |
| 21:10.56 | olafski | Savage (and Savage 2) |
| 21:11.24 | olafski | was quite fun for a while |
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| 21:15.06 | ckknight | Savage had a linux client |
| 21:15.08 | ckknight | :P |
| 21:15.22 | olafski | I'll bet |
| 21:15.37 | olafski | 8.7/10 from ign, not bad :) |
| 21:15.58 | asmodai | Not sure I know Savage |
| 21:16.20 | asmodai | Yssaril: Why are all your other addons on CC and not this boss thinghy? :P |
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| 21:17.35 | Silowyi | so, no server naming suggestions? |
| 21:19.17 | olafski | append 'ski' to whatever you were going to call them and you're golden ;) |
| 21:20.16 | ramoz | Homerski! |
| 21:22.11 | Torhal | Skiski? |
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| 21:22.44 | olafski | I name my pcs after transformers |
| 21:23.22 | mitchnull | I name them after stars |
| 21:23.36 | mitchnull | as in astronomy, not tv stuff |
| 21:23.41 | olafski | +) |
| 21:24.00 | Hjalte | If anyone is interested in using or helping develop new features for a locally hosted dkp system other than eqdkp, I've been helping out with WebDKP recently: http://code.google.com/p/webdkp/ |
| 21:24.56 | Hjalte | Example: http://www.hjalte.com/webdkp/Dkp |
| 21:24.59 | Yssaril | asmodai: cause it isnt ready for beta :P |
| 21:25.14 | Yssaril | almost there though at this point |
| 21:27.59 | Myrroddin | may i ask a bugfix / lib not loading error? |
| 21:28.10 | Myrroddin | sorry, ask about... |
| 21:28.32 | Myrroddin | at the top of my code, i have two lines: local SmartRes2 = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("SmartRes2", "AceConsole-3.0", "AceEvent-3.0", "LibBars-1.0") |
| 21:28.43 | ckknight | Hjalte: is that purely web-based, no addon component? |
| 21:28.49 | Myrroddin | and local Bars = LibStub("LibBars-1.0") |
| 21:29.06 | Myrroddin | but bugsack is telling me that libbars is not loaded |
| 21:29.08 | Hjalte | ckknight: There is an addon component and a .exe sync tool. |
| 21:29.17 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:29.31 | ckknight | also, what's more profitable/fun: herbalism or mining? (skinning will be my other) |
| 21:29.52 | Hjalte | ckknight: Depends on your class. If you're a druid for example, you will want herbalism. |
| 21:29.59 | ckknight | pally |
| 21:29.59 | Myrroddin | probably mining, since you get gems as well as ore |
| 21:32.29 | Fisker | you know whats nice? |
| 21:32.39 | Fisker | A mistimed divine storm and i aggro a blood beast |
| 21:32.44 | asmodai | Yssaril: but but but, you can use CC for alpha too :P |
| 21:32.48 | Fisker | A warrior aggros a blood beast 3 times |
| 21:32.58 | Fisker | after the battle i'm told to stop using consecration |
| 21:33.01 | Fisker | i.e. i lol'd |
| 21:33.14 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r91 MillHelp.toc: -tweak name field in toc to match the glyph module format |
| 21:33.16 | Yssaril | asmodai: only if there is at least one beta version i think |
| 21:34.25 | Torhal | you wouldn't write an AddOn that Fisker would use |
| 21:34.29 | asmodai | Hmm |
| 21:35.02 | Yssaril | Torhal: to late .sigh |
| 21:35.46 | Torhal | Damn it, man! |
| 21:36.40 | Yssaril | Fisker: whats your pallys name? |
| 21:37.54 | olafski | Fiskerdin |
| 21:39.14 | Yssaril | hehe ingame troutslaps here we come |
| 21:40.37 | steev | Fisker: you shoulda used hammer of justice or whatever the stun is on the blood beast, not like getting one close to melee is bad, just kill it while its stunned |
| 21:40.53 | steev | they go down quicker than my mom on a saturday night |
| 21:44.05 | Fisker | stun is a bad idea steev |
| 21:44.14 | Fisker | anyways it's just about not divine storming when they spawn |
| 21:44.26 | Fisker | but i lagged a bit compared to the timer |
| 21:45.13 | Fisker | just thought it was funny that the warrior who failed 3 times didn't even get mentioned :P |
| 21:45.43 | steev | why is stunning them bad? |
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| 21:50.04 | Fisker | more chance that melee will actually aggro them |
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| 21:51.00 | steev | Fisker: i'm talking the one that you already aggro'd |
| 21:54.36 | Fisker | ah yeah of course |
| 21:54.55 | Fisker | But it should happen to begin with i was just fail |
| 21:54.59 | Fisker | but not as fail as the warrior :P |
| 21:57.01 | asmodai | You wouldn't stun a blood beast... |
| 21:57.45 | NeoTron | stunning them is awesome sauce |
| 22:01.46 | asmodai | Just for Fisker : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkMWdI2IKiw |
| 22:06.11 | Fisker | sweeeeeeet |
| 22:08.25 | Daemona | this is a bad joke no? 4th time ahn kahet today |
| 22:08.33 | Yssaril | lol |
| 22:09.21 | asmodai | Things that make you go mmmm: A single sperm has 37.5MB of DNA information in it. That means that a normal ejaculation represents a data transfer of 1,587.5TB |
| 22:10.42 | VonhintenHOME` | not if you zip it up |
| 22:10.42 | VonhintenHOME` | >< |
| 22:10.45 | steev | asmodai: i wouldn't say "mmmm" |
| 22:11.42 | Fisker | try 3 oculus' on a day Daemona |
| 22:11.53 | asmodai | VonhintenHOME`: lol |
| 22:12.04 | asmodai | steev: well, not mmm as in tasty, but mmm as in thoughtful :P |
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| 22:13.19 | steev | when i have to think, i normally go hmm, not mmm |
| 22:15.01 | ckknight | yea, hmm, not mmm |
| 22:15.25 | asmodai | cultural bias I guess |
| 22:15.53 | ckknight | where you live? |
| 22:16.00 | Gagorian | Well actually, if we assume the average sperm count is 100M per ml, and the average male ejaculation to be around 3 ml (2-5 ml). It's more |
| 22:16.14 | asmodai | ckknight: NL |
| 22:16.57 | ckknight | asmodai: well, I don't trust the Dutch. |
| 22:17.13 | SunTsu | ckknight: who on earth does? ;) |
| 22:17.17 | asmodai | Good, good. *steals ckknight's wallet in the mean time* |
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| 22:17.55 | Gagorian | It's closer to 11250 TB |
| 22:18.08 | Gagorian | Although most of the information is just duplicate |
| 22:18.29 | Fisker | i have the worlds fastest internet connection |
| 22:18.30 | Fisker | wee |
| 22:18.35 | Fisker | 11250 TB/s |
| 22:18.36 | Fisker | :D |
| 22:18.43 | Fisker | (Burst only) |
| 22:18.46 | VonhintenHOME` | for 3 seconds |
| 22:18.46 | asmodai | I thought you were impotent. |
| 22:18.50 | Kalroth | haha |
| 22:18.51 | Gagorian | well it's less since that's the product of the entire ejaculation |
| 22:19.04 | Gagorian | so if we say it lasts 10 seconds, you get 1125 TB/s |
| 22:19.07 | Gagorian | still pretty fast |
| 22:19.28 | VonhintenHOME` | But, if you can transfer the sum of all knowledge in 3 seconds... you win anyway |
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| 22:21.22 | Gagorian | It has a pretty massive packet loss if you try to get someone pregnant |
| 22:21.31 | Gagorian | So I'd say it's the worlds shittiest internet connection |
| 22:21.49 | VonhintenHOME` | It's a matter of brute forcing the encryption... |
| 22:22.16 | Torhal | ... |
| 22:22.18 | Gagorian | True... |
| 22:22.20 | Torhal | I actually just read that... |
| 22:22.22 | Torhal | ... |
| 22:22.45 | VonhintenHOME` | more of a peer to peer network than an internet connection anyway |
| 22:23.16 | Gagorian | Unless it's a prostitue |
| 22:23.22 | Gagorian | That could be called a "router" |
| 22:23.30 | Gagorian | *prostitute |
| 22:23.51 | Gagorian | Maybe it's time to stop |
| 22:23.51 | VonhintenHOME` | caching proxy? |
| 22:24.04 | VonhintenHOME` | lawl |
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| 22:32.56 | Fisker | you wouldn't kill a FtH|Daemona |
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| 22:37.12 | Repo | 10handy-notes_vendors: 03zarevak * r70 / (5 files in 2 directories): Let's try WowAce automatic translations ;-) |
| 22:40.21 | Repo | 10handy-notes_vendors: 03zarevak * r71 HandyNotes_Vendors.toc: |
| 22:40.23 | Repo | credited all the translators! thank you all for your help ;-) |
| 22:42.01 | Repo | 10handy-notes_vendors: 03zarevak 04v1.2.3 Release * r72 : |
| 22:42.03 | Repo | Tagging as v1.2.3 Release. New esES localization by yllelder |
| 22:42.04 | Repo | - Credited all translators in TOC |
| 22:42.06 | Repo | - Changed to use WowAce automatic translation system |
| 22:50.33 | Repo | 10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak * r63 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 22:50.34 | Repo | - Credited all the translators! thank you all for your help ;-) |
| 22:50.36 | Repo | - WowAce automatic translations |
| 22:54.53 | Repo | 10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak * r64 Locales (4 files in 1 directory): added notification about WowAce Localization tool... |
| 22:56.10 | Repo | 10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak 04v1.2.3 Release * r65 : Tagging as v1.2.3 Release. |
| 22:56.12 | Repo | - New esES localization by yllelder! |
| 22:56.13 | Repo | - Credited all translators in TOC |
| 22:56.14 | Repo | - Changed to use WowAce automatic translation system |
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| 22:58.01 | Repo | 10handy-notes_vendors: 03zarevak * r73 Locales (4 files in 1 directory): added notice about the WowAce Localization Tool |
| 22:58.43 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r6887 Citadel/Locales/frFR.lua: frFR Update |
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| 23:10.53 | Primer | local foo = Addon.SomeProperty <-- does foo become a reference? I know I should know this, but with so many languages, it's hard to keep track |
| 23:12.46 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6888 Citadel/Saurfang.lua: |
| 23:12.48 | Repo | Citadel/Saurfang: Add an engage warmup bar for Saurfang, also show the proximity meter during this time for raid composition, need horde very first yell and horde npc id's. |
| 23:13.36 | Shadowed | yes Primer |
| 23:13.45 | Shadowed | er wait |
| 23:13.54 | Shadowed | By SomeProperty you mean, any sort of object or say a table? |
| 23:13.58 | Primer | yes |
| 23:14.02 | Primer | specifically a table |
| 23:14.05 | Shadowed | You can't say yes when ther-- |
| 23:14.08 | Shadowed | Yes |
| 23:14.12 | Primer | thanks |
| 23:18.46 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.10.7 * d362a7f /: [new tag] tag as v1.10.7 |
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| 23:20.25 | Primer | So I disabled the Nagle Algorithm on my Vista-running laptop. I was skeptical, but...it really seems to have made a world of difference |
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| 23:21.04 | Primer | I'm seeing substantially lower latency, and the "lag" indicator in quartz is barely visible, especially when playing from work where we share a T1 |
| 23:21.17 | Primer | whereas before it was markedly visible |
| 23:22.08 | SunTsu | Primer: Nagle is of course more laggy |
| 23:22.30 | Primer | ok, there's that poiButton bug again |
| 23:22.34 | SunTsu | it was designed to optimize throughput, not latency |
| 23:22.43 | Primer | mouse over a poi in the map, bam |
| 23:22.56 | arkanes | Primer: latency as measured by the ingame measurement isn't neccesarily what you're experiencing in gameplay |
| 23:23.01 | arkanes | but sure, nagle can reduce that |
| 23:23.03 | arkanes | increase? |
| 23:23.04 | Primer | oh wow, CurseProfiler? |
| 23:23.11 | arkanes | def increase |
| 23:23.22 | Primer | arkanes: yes, I know this, which is why I was skeptical |
| 23:23.38 | Primer | I didn't think it'd make a bit of difference |
| 23:23.54 | arkanes | it doesn't usually |
| 23:24.03 | arkanes | but on the right kind of network it sometimes can |
| 23:24.06 | Primer | but I've noticed that responses to casting has been noticeably improved |
| 23:24.13 | arkanes | if it's helping you, you're paying for it in throughput though |
| 23:24.46 | arkanes | doubt that maters except maybe for zoning into dalaran though |
| 23:25.02 | SunTsu | arkanes: yeah, but playing WoW doesn't need much throughput, so when this is the main concern... |
| 23:25.11 | arkanes | and of course you're contributing to everyone elses congestion problems :P |
| 23:25.12 | Primer | indeed |
| 23:25.29 | Primer | and any substantial througput will go through another bottleneck, my upstream |
| 23:26.17 | Gnarfoz | Primer: wow has TCP_NODELAY set anyway these days. you mean you changed TcpAckFrequency from 2 to 1? |
| 23:26.27 | Primer | yes |
| 23:26.41 | Primer | I read that TCP_NODELAY was removed |
| 23:26.44 | Gnarfoz | regardless, the results speak for themselves, usually =) |
| 23:27.00 | Gnarfoz | not using TCP_NODELAY = Nagle algorithm on |
| 23:27.04 | Gnarfoz | it's the same thing |
| 23:27.25 | Primer | I understand the concepts |
| 23:27.34 | Primer | <-- knows TCP/IP |
| 23:28.09 | Primer | there's still a lua error with poiButton, and only traces through blizzard code |
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| 23:28.51 | Lyntz | Hi! Is here anyone who knows a little bit about "InternalCooldowns" and how to add new Trinkets? |
| 23:29.11 | arkanes | TcpAckFrequency isn't nagle, is it? |
| 23:29.21 | Gnarfoz | arkanes: indeed, it's not |
| 23:29.47 | Gnarfoz | Lyntz: you'd want to modify Data.lua, which is part of LibInternalCooldowns-1.0 |
| 23:30.05 | Primer | it's TomTom |
| 23:30.12 | Primer | disabled TomTom, the error goes away |
| 23:30.32 | arkanes | interesting |
| 23:30.44 | arkanes | because changing that from 2 to 1 *increases* the number of packets you send |
| 23:30.58 | Primer | yes, but they're no longer delayed |
| 23:31.17 | arkanes | it means an ack is sent for every packet |
| 23:31.23 | Primer | correct |
| 23:31.27 | arkanes | that impllies that wow sends packets at intervals of more than 200ms |
| 23:31.32 | arkanes | seems odd |
| 23:31.35 | Primer | instead of delaying 200ms (the default) |
| 23:31.37 | Gnarfoz | whereas with '2', up to 200ms delay is added |
| 23:31.45 | Lyntz | Yes |
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| 23:32.03 | Primer | ok, maybe it's not TomTom |
| 23:32.07 | Primer | as the error just came back |
| 23:32.08 | Gnarfoz | worse: having Nagle's algorithm on top of that adds up to a delay of up to 400ms |
| 23:32.25 | Primer | it's so random...it happens when I click on a poi, then other times when I simply open the map |
| 23:32.41 | Gnarfoz | which is why changing both was so damn effective back then before Blizz made WoW use TCP_NODELAY themselves |
| 23:33.48 | Primer | very odd, ACP isn't showing my addon |
| 23:33.54 | arkanes | I find it odd that blizzard would be sending that few packets spread that far apart |
| 23:34.08 | Primer | I find it odd that blizz uses TCP |
| 23:34.11 | Primer | and not UDP |
| 23:34.13 | arkanes | nah |
| 23:34.21 | arkanes | there's lots of good reasons to do that |
| 23:34.26 | Primer | such as...? |
| 23:34.37 | arkanes | well, you need reliably delivery for some stuff |
| 23:34.48 | Yssaril | UDP doesnt care if packates arive TCP does |
| 23:34.51 | arkanes | so that means, at a minimum, you have to dual channel it, which greatly complicates your netcode |
| 23:34.53 | Lyntz | Anyone around who knows a little bit about InternalCooldowns and could tell me where's the mistake here --> [71519] = {71485, 71491, 71486}, Deathbringer's Will, |
| 23:34.58 | Primer | yes...again, I know this |
| 23:35.10 | Primer | so their programmers are lazy |
| 23:35.16 | arkanes | implementing reliable delivery on top of UDP is silly, and UDP isn't well treated by lots of networks |
| 23:35.20 | arkanes | it's not a matter of laziness |
| 23:35.23 | WobWork | Lyntz: maybe put the name in quotes? |
| 23:35.41 | Primer | other games seem to work just fine |
| 23:35.44 | arkanes | complicated stuff doesn't work as well |
| 23:35.52 | arkanes | hardly anything uses UDP anymore |
| 23:36.23 | arkanes | even FPSes, which are substantially more latency sensitive than wow, usually use TCP |
| 23:36.26 | arkanes | sometimes with a sidechannel |
| 23:37.01 | Primer | name one |
| 23:37.47 | arkanes | halo, modern warfare 1, heck even tribes back in the day |
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| 23:38.16 | arkanes | some people do of course do silly thigns |
| 23:38.23 | Mikk | TCP with delay off |
| 23:38.24 | Mikk | tadaa |
| 23:38.28 | arkanes | I've seen people implement all of TCPs semantics tunneled over UDP |
| 23:38.30 | Mikk | works well until you get packet loss |
| 23:38.42 | Mikk | and packet loss hurts no matter how you look at it |
| 23:38.59 | arkanes | right, UDPs unreliably delivery looks really attractive for stuff like movement updates |
| 23:39.21 | arkanes | until you lose 80 datagrams in a row and then your servers out of sync |
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| 23:39.56 | arkanes | Primer: as an example of why TCP is good, the fact that your latency is mostly regular and can be compensated for by things like quartz is due largely to TCP |
| 23:39.57 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: actually, there shouldn't be a name there at all |
| 23:40.23 | arkanes | if, say, spell casts were sent over UDP you'd have wierd unexplainable lost spells, missing casts, all kinds of stuff |
| 23:40.26 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: other lines in that file look like this: [67708] = {47303, 47115}, -- Death's Choice, Death's Verdict (STR) |
| 23:40.53 | Mikk | the only fuckup from blizzard's side is refusing to disable TCP_DELAY on their socket |
| 23:41.02 | Gnarfoz | is=was |
| 23:41.06 | Mikk | orly |
| 23:41.09 | Mikk | when did that get changed |
| 23:41.09 | arkanes | even nagle is fine in probably 90% of cases |
| 23:41.11 | Primer | no, they reverted this at some point |
| 23:41.15 | Gnarfoz | 2.3? 2.4? |
| 23:41.20 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 23:41.21 | Mikk | it was still on in 3.2 |
| 23:41.22 | Primer | the registry key is not present |
| 23:41.26 | Repo | 10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r144 config.lua: Apparently it's BlizOptions.BankStack.BankStack now. Crazy. |
| 23:41.31 | arkanes | Primer: it's not a registry key |
| 23:41.31 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 23:41.32 | Primer | unless they did it via the api |
| 23:41.33 | Gnarfoz | that's per socket. |
| 23:41.39 | Gnarfoz | they did |
| 23:41.40 | Primer | socket api, that is |
| 23:41.47 | Mikk | i disabled my reg hack in 3.2 and back up to 200ms |
| 23:41.48 | arkanes | I mean, you can force one, but thats not how wow would be setting it |
| 23:41.49 | Mikk | turn it on again |
| 23:41.51 | Mikk | 50ms |
| 23:41.56 | Mikk | eh yes |
| 23:42.00 | Primer | well, I've seen where TCP_NODELAY can be set via the registry |
| 23:42.07 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: TcpAckFrequency? |
| 23:42.09 | arkanes | Primer: right, thats a system setting |
| 23:42.15 | Primer | having programmed sockets in *nix, I know it's a TCP flag |
| 23:42.15 | Gnarfoz | you can do it globally, or per socket |
| 23:42.17 | Mikk | wow should absolutely not be disabling nagle system wide |
| 23:42.19 | arkanes | Primer: if wow was, or was not, setting it, they would be doing it with socket flags |
| 23:42.20 | Mikk | it should set it on the socket |
| 23:42.20 | Primer | arkanes: wrong |
| 23:42.26 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: it does, damnit |
| 23:42.26 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:42.31 | arkanes | Primer: no |
| 23:42.31 | Primer | it's a socket flag |
| 23:42.43 | arkanes | Primer: registry flags aren't socket flags |
| 23:42.51 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: eh so why does the reg hack bump my roundtrips by 150ms? |
| 23:43.02 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: TcpAckFrequency? |
| 23:43.12 | Gnarfoz | because that's something different than Nagle ;) |
| 23:43.21 | Mikk | this is not acks. this is sending data. |
| 23:43.37 | Gnarfoz | disabling/enabling TCP_NODELAY (==Nagle) system-wide has no effect whatsoever on my WoW latency |
| 23:43.47 | Gnarfoz | because WoW's sockets already are set to that |
| 23:43.54 | arkanes | Gnarfoz: that doesn't neccesarily mean that they're setting it |
| 23:44.05 | arkanes | why are you all trying guess if its on from secondary effects instead of just looking :P |
| 23:44.17 | Gnarfoz | tell me how, and I'll look ;) |
| 23:44.25 | Gnarfoz | not sure how to do that on Windows |
| 23:44.29 | yoshimo | registry settings reduced it from 190 to 60-80 here, it still seems to work on windows |
| 23:44.33 | Gnarfoz | also, I'll go dig up the blue post |
| 23:44.37 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: dude |
| 23:44.58 | Mikk | having said that |
| 23:45.12 | Mikk | there's also the effect of serverside socket settings to consider |
| 23:45.12 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: don't butt in with that kind of seriously imprecise statement at a point where it's all "which of the two does the magic" :P |
| 23:45.23 | arkanes | well, I don't know how to check in windows either really |
| 23:45.29 | Mikk | so the client sending out acks earlier |
| 23:45.38 | Mikk | could prod the server into sending out smaller segments |
| 23:45.42 | Mikk | gets gray hairs |
| 23:45.54 | Primer | ughttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/search.html?characterId=120643906462&sid=1 <-- questpoi that I'm getting |
| 23:45.57 | Repo | 10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 04v2.3.3 * b956499 /: [new tag] Tag as v2.3.3 |
| 23:45.58 | Primer | asdasd |
| 23:46.02 | Primer | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/search.html?characterId=120643906462&sid=1 <-- questpoi that I'm getting |
| 23:46.32 | Mikk | damnit i had the side effects of Nagle + delayed acks down |
| 23:46.35 | Mikk | years ago |
| 23:46.36 | Mikk | forgets |
| 23:46.49 | Primer | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=11824415807&sid=1 <-- another post |
| 23:46.51 | Mikk | basically the two interact badly |
| 23:46.54 | Primer | Anyone know anything about this? |
| 23:47.29 | Primer | Try Running Repair.exe found in your World of Warcraft folder....Thanks, that seems to have resolved it. <-- WTF? that MUST be a troll! |
| 23:47.47 | arkanes | Primer: it's a generic first-step answer, along the lines of "reboot your computer" |
| 23:47.55 | Primer | exactly |
| 23:48.01 | Primer | which is why I don't buy that this fixed it |
| 23:48.10 | Lyntz | Anyone around here that could help me in adding a Trinket in the .lua from "InternalCooldowns" ? |
| 23:48.28 | yoshimo | you forgot " delete wtf and /interface folder " ;) |
| 23:48.33 | arkanes | Primer: well, maybe the problem was caused by file corruption in some of the blizz lua files |
| 23:48.42 | arkanes | Primer: repair.exe would fix that |
| 23:48.47 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: they both wait for "is there anything else coming I can bunch up?" and both wait for up to 200ms, adding up to 400ms total possible delay |
| 23:49.30 | Primer | this one post alludes to it being a bug specific to the IceCrown zone, which just happens to be my favorite testing zone |
| 23:50.04 | Gnarfoz | yay, patch notes 2.3.2: # Reduced network latency by disabling the Nagle algorithm. |
| 23:50.30 | Primer | people are reporting that this bug happens with no addons enabled |
| 23:50.41 | Primer | sigh, I really don't want to run repair.exe |
| 23:50.52 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: so er assuming that this is still live, the problem would be that their servers still run with nagle on |
| 23:51.02 | Mikk | otherwise changing delayed acks would have no effect |
| 23:51.35 | Repo | 10bank-stack: 03Kemayo 04v15 * r145 : Tagging as v15 |
| 23:51.49 | Mikk | because i don't really like having them both disabled |
| 23:51.53 | Mikk | it can lead to Silly Window Syndrome |
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| 23:53.11 | Gnarfoz | uhmmm |
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| 23:53.26 | Gnarfoz | the hour's too late for me to get into this topic again :D |
| 23:53.40 | Mikk | same |
| 23:53.43 | Gnarfoz | I just set TcpAckFrequency to 1 and enjoy my 15-20ms latency :) |
| 23:53.47 | Mikk | ya |
| 23:54.43 | Primer | I'll state this again: I was skeptical, yet, when I tried it, it made a measurable difference (in-game latency indicator shaved a good 100-150ms off, and my quartz lag indicator has been much smaller on every cast) |
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| 23:57.33 | Primer | Will repair.exe report if it actually found something and fixed it or does it just go "done"? |
| 23:58.25 | Yssaril | Primer: in my experiance it will say what its doing atm (so it will say which file it is repairing or redownloading) |
| 23:58.40 | Yssaril | could have changed though has been a while since i last used it |
| 23:58.58 | Primer | I'm at a loss for this lua error |
| 23:59.10 | Primer | and others have experienced the exact same error with all addons disabled |
| 23:59.17 | Primer | and one post claims repair.exe will fix it |
| 23:59.31 | Yssaril | pastey the error? |
