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| 00:10.28 | Belazor | Sucks when addon authors only upload to WoWI, Minion is so vastly inferior to CC v4 :( |
| 00:10.34 | Repo | 10healers-have-to-die: 03Archarodim 07master * 1.0.2 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 00:10.35 | Repo | 282993b: - Toc to 30300 |
| 00:10.36 | Repo | 109e28b: - Internal cleanup (:retab, typos, etc...) |
| 00:10.45 | Repo | 10healers-have-to-die: 03Archarodim 041.0.2 * adf131f /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.0.2 |
| 00:10.47 | Belazor | @describe healers-have-to-die |
| 00:10.48 | Repo | Belazor: http://www.wowace.com/addons/healers-have-to-die/. Healers have to die. A simple Add-on that rings when you hover or target an enemy healer. |
| 00:11.09 | Belazor | this should be mandatory in BGs :p |
| 00:11.26 | Archarodim | it's quite useful indeed :) |
| 00:14.20 | Belazor | I tried going into a BG with my blue/green Holy set, 13k hp unbuffed. Lets just say I didn't last long :( |
| 00:15.05 | Gagorian | Can I modify that addon to Belazor has to die? |
| 00:15.11 | Gagorian | Rings always when you hover him |
| 00:15.19 | Belazor | Gtfo :( |
| 00:15.33 | Belazor | Mean Gaggy :( |
| 00:15.49 | Gagorian | pats Belazor |
| 00:15.55 | Belazor | sobs |
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| 00:16.12 | Belazor | If I pretend to be a girl, do I gets money to make me feel better? |
| 00:16.17 | Amadeo | Amazing minimap addon? |
| 00:16.21 | Belazor | ^_~ |
| 00:16.21 | WobWork | only if you're a whore |
| 00:16.22 | Mikk | ASL? |
| 00:16.26 | Belazor | xD |
| 00:16.38 | Gagorian | Belazor: How much is it an hour then? |
| 00:16.53 | Belazor | 18/f/<insert somewhere far enough away so that I have an excuse not to meet you> |
| 00:16.55 | Belazor | ;D |
| 00:17.54 | Belazor | Amadeo: MiniMapster or SexyMap (I think the latter is a minimap addon :p) |
| 00:19.13 | Belazor | I have a theory as to why Blizz give away epics for free (cause tbh, the cross-realm dungeons + triumph badges is as free as it gets): Achievements. You know how you need 6k DPS and ToGC 25 cleared to join a VoA pug these days? Well giving people free t9 is a way of letting people meet those requirements. |
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| 00:21.41 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2754 ARL.lua: In addon:OnEnable(): Register for TRADE_SKILL_UPDATE |
| 00:21.43 | Repo | Added addon:TRADE_SKILL_UPDATE() which re-scans (on a throttle so the client doesn't lock up) the recipes so the list automatically updates when you learn a new recipe. Only works if the tradeskill frame is open. |
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| 00:32.13 | Primer | dammit, another report of the same error, and the only conclusion I can draw is that initializing the profile database does NOT create the newly added properties |
| 00:33.03 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: what did you add to libtourist? |
| 00:33.15 | Primer | where a user had saved variables beforehand, and initializing these didn't add the difference between that and the default config values |
| 00:33.16 | Archarodim | Primer: oh sorry I forgot to check for open ticket before submitting |
| 00:34.38 | Primer | Archarodim: np |
| 00:35.49 | Torhal | Primer: SexyMap does that. If I try to copy another toon's profile, it just defaults everything. |
| 00:35.52 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Ages ago I fixed Ony's lair to be level 80 |
| 00:36.27 | Primer | I think I just need to setup a test case to confirm what I believe to be happening, namely, that calling this: |
| 00:36.31 | Primer | self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("FlightHUDDB", FlightHUDDefaultConfigDB, "Default") |
| 00:36.47 | Arrowmaster | then no, everybody that has added new zones has failed to put any path info in it seems |
| 00:36.57 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that shows the actual name of enchants next to what they do? |
| 00:37.10 | Primer | Doesn't pull FlightHUDDefaultConfigDB.theNewThing if you already have an existing saved variables for the addon |
| 00:37.21 | KriLL3 | for instance, my helm has an enchant on it, item tooltop just says what it gives me, not what it's called |
| 00:38.56 | KriLL3 | and I guess extending this logic the name of gems would also be nice |
| 00:39.08 | KriLL3 | though you can right shift click and see it that way, on your own at least |
| 00:40.08 | Mikk | soooo anyone else getting hard wow freezes? :S |
| 00:40.13 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 00:40.14 | Mikk | as of 3.3 |
| 00:40.23 | Primer | I've been getting seg faults |
| 00:40.27 | KriLL3 | me and fisk got same thing |
| 00:40.35 | KriLL3 | game stops at random, and then crashes without and error |
| 00:40.40 | KriLL3 | *an |
| 00:40.49 | Mikk | mine just freezes up and needs a kill |
| 00:40.51 | Torhal | Mikk: 3.3 is buggy. Tabbing out no longer runs frame:OnUpdate(), some people have experienced "Unable to verify client version", etc |
| 00:41.06 | Mikk | yeah i get unable to verify when i dc and reconnect |
| 00:41.07 | KriLL3 | Torhal: I get that on first login attempt, every time |
| 00:41.12 | Mikk | try again and it works |
| 00:41.13 | KriLL3 | works second time though |
| 00:41.34 | KriLL3 | sadly this issue hasn't been confirmed by blizz yet it seems |
| 00:41.46 | Mikk | well mine KINDA seems addon related tbh |
| 00:41.56 | Mikk | i've been running an alt without addons and it stopped crashing it seems |
| 00:42.06 | Mikk | (but since it happens every N hours ..eh yeah not proven yet) |
| 00:42.21 | KriLL3 | I'm not sure, I've killed all mine 50/50 so I didn't have any one running both times, still crashed |
| 00:42.26 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2455 Locales/LibBabble.lua: Added default tables for remaining non-english languages |
| 00:42.35 | KriLL3 | Mikk: did you do complex stuff on that alt? |
| 00:42.40 | KriLL3 | or just sit around? |
| 00:42.54 | KriLL3 | seems to happen when there is a lot of action, for lack of a better word |
| 00:43.11 | KriLL3 | boss fights in particular, which is annoying |
| 00:45.12 | Mikk | well it was crashing on the alt too |
| 00:45.15 | Mikk | until i disabled all |
| 00:45.17 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r80 modules/Source_Spellcasts.lua: |
| 00:45.19 | Repo | Spellcasts: do not announce "not ready" failures at beginning of cooldown (drycoded). |
| 00:45.19 | Mikk | but yeah lots of action seems to irritate it |
| 00:45.30 | Mikk | (the alt = new level 1) |
| 00:45.34 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 00:48.23 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r289 modules/ReadyCheck.lua: Prevent the ready check messages spamming chat. |
| 00:48.39 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2456 / (2 files in 2 directories): v5.09.01, Patch 3.3 bugfix release |
| 00:48.47 | vhaarr | someone needs to test the ready checks extensively now |
| 00:48.47 | Repo | 10ora2: 03Rabbit * r670 Leader/Ready.lua: Prevent the ready check messages spamming chat. |
| 00:49.21 | Mikk | hokay... no addons, all libs enabled |
| 00:49.22 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: any plans on adding the "role icons" the default UI has in parties from dungeon finder? |
| 00:49.25 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh 04v5.09.01 * r2457 : Tagging as v5.09.01 |
| 00:49.32 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: for pitbull that is |
| 00:50.08 | Shadowed | Pretty sure nevcairiel doesn't do anything with PB? |
| 00:50.14 | Mikk | ^ |
| 00:50.17 | KriLL3 | hmm |
| 00:50.20 | KriLL3 | ah sorry |
| 00:50.23 | KriLL3 | ckknight =P |
| 00:50.25 | Shadowed | you mean Shefki |
| 00:50.31 | Shadowed | ckknight just leeches points! |
| 00:50.32 | KriLL3 | of that |
| 00:50.35 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 00:50.36 | KriLL3 | =P |
| 00:51.14 | KriLL3 | Shefki / ckknight : any plans on adding the "role icons" the default UI has in parties from dungeon finder to pitbull? |
| 00:51.40 | ckknight | Shadowed: I leeched your mom's points. |
| 00:52.02 | Shadowed | Make sure to ration those, she doesn't have much left |
| 00:52.10 | Stanzilla | KriLL3: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/640-show-a-players-role-on-its-unitframe/ there |
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| 00:53.11 | KriLL3 | Stanzilla: errm, there is some code there, but how would I make use of it? |
| 00:53.19 | Mikk | KriLL3: what OS btw? |
| 00:53.19 | KriLL3 | oh nvm |
| 00:53.25 | WobWork | awesome |
| 00:53.26 | KriLL3 | saw the .zip |
| 00:53.27 | Stanzilla | there is a zip |
| 00:53.32 | KriLL3 | Win7 x64 Ultimate |
| 00:53.33 | WobWork | Non-Billable: 31.50 hrs |
| 00:53.40 | WobWork | Billable: 1.5 hrs |
| 00:53.40 | KriLL3 | we've all got Win7 x64 with this issue sofar |
| 00:54.23 | WobWork | KriLL3: I've got that, but haven't had any crashes |
| 00:54.32 | Mikk | yeah well i'm using XP |
| 00:54.43 | KriLL3 | hmm saw an XP user also |
| 00:54.55 | KriLL3 | Nvidia GPU? 195.63 drivers? |
| 00:55.08 | WobWork | not sure how recent my nvidia drivers are |
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| 00:55.31 | Mikk | Nvidia definitely, unsure drivers. recent. |
| 00:55.45 | Mikk | my 2nd wow is churning along just fine though with my toon sitting in the bank |
| 00:55.46 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 00:55.47 | Mikk | er AH |
| 00:56.06 | WobWork | recent enough since W7x64 came out =) |
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| 00:58.55 | KriLL3 | Mikk: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=11824374336&postId=118231609064&sid=1#7 thread about it, fisker started it |
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| 01:01.56 | Mikk | ho yeah i had vsync off in the crashing one from my testing the other day |
| 01:02.03 | Repo | 10simple-chat-mods: 03Rabbit * r116 / (2 files in 1 directory): Add abbrevation for the party leader channel. |
| 01:02.04 | Mikk | tries turning it on just for kixx |
| 01:02.22 | WobWork | hm |
| 01:02.25 | WobWork | maybe I shouldn't upgrade my drivers |
| 01:04.00 | Mikk | 195.62 here |
| 01:04.56 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r175 / (2 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 01:04.58 | Repo | - Database update |
| 01:05.20 | KriLL3 | just happened again, was shooting protodrakes in that ebon blade daily |
| 01:08.38 | marshen | it happened to my whole raid in anub 25 hc -.- |
| 01:08.57 | KriLL3 | client crash? |
| 01:09.06 | marshen | freeze |
| 01:09.29 | marshen | and after clicking it quit without any message^^ |
| 01:09.48 | KriLL3 | same here |
| 01:09.55 | KriLL3 | just vanishes |
| 01:10.02 | KriLL3 | quick to get back in though |
| 01:10.29 | KriLL3 | any addons your guild requires? |
| 01:10.35 | marshen | no |
| 01:10.52 | marshen | dbm or bigwigs or deux vox... but dont know if anyone uses blizzard bossmod |
| 01:11.32 | Mikk | blizzard... bossmod... ? |
| 01:12.27 | marshen | Mikk the messages generated by blizzard |
| 01:12.46 | KriLL3 | btw is there a way to only show the threat bar in pitbull when I'm in a party? or in an instance etc? |
| 01:13.06 | KriLL3 | somewhat redundant when solo |
| 01:14.01 | haste | I do |
| 01:14.16 | haste | I havne't raided with any boss mod since TBC (where I barely raided) |
| 01:14.26 | haste | the blizzard messages are more than enough |
| 01:14.46 | WobWork | not for Devourer of Souls =( |
| 01:15.09 | haste | durr? |
| 01:15.14 | KriLL3 | first time I described that encounter to my party they went "O_o" |
| 01:15.27 | KriLL3 | we made it, though mostly from luck |
| 01:15.35 | WobWork | it's nice to be able to see "<X> has mirror" |
| 01:15.38 | haste | move from stuff on the ground, don't dps while mirrored -- done :p ? |
| 01:15.38 | KriLL3 | and me combat ressing the healer while tanking |
| 01:15.38 | WobWork | or whatever |
| 01:15.46 | haste | you do see that |
| 01:15.49 | KriLL3 | haste: and the breath cone thing |
| 01:15.53 | marshen | WobWork get skilled dds ^^ |
| 01:16.02 | haste | huge message and beam towards a playre |
| 01:16.09 | WobWork | dance dance... superrevolution? |
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| 01:16.20 | ckknight | Revolution to the max! |
| 01:16.41 | KriLL3 | ckknight: is there a way to only show the threat bar in pitbull when I'm in a party? or in an instance etc? |
| 01:16.52 | WobWork | KriLL3: that breath cone thing killed me a few times =( |
| 01:17.03 | KriLL3 | WobWork: didn't kill me, killed out healer though |
| 01:17.10 | KriLL3 | so I had to res him |
| 01:17.11 | WobWork | til I managed to remember to stay behind it, at all times |
| 01:17.16 | KriLL3 | tank ressing healer... |
| 01:17.18 | ckknight | KriLL3: hmm, not sure. |
| 01:17.23 | WobWork | as a healer, I got ganked by the mirror =( |
| 01:17.34 | WobWork | and possibly the scream |
| 01:17.39 | WobWork | it got a bit frantic there |
| 01:17.50 | WobWork | cause none of us knew wtf was going on =P |
| 01:17.59 | KriLL3 | yeah it was very "omg omg what's happening!?" |
| 01:18.01 | WobWork | ended up the hunter killing him =P |
| 01:18.12 | WobWork | it's such a long corpserun |
| 01:18.18 | WobWork | TOC has spoilt me |
| 01:18.27 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2755 / (2 files in 1 directory): Change some function calls. |
| 01:18.40 | KriLL3 | WobWork: best part is that a lot people don't know where the enterance even is |
| 01:18.54 | WobWork | I know! |
| 01:18.56 | KriLL3 | I had to guide a guy from another server that didn't have coords how to get there |
| 01:19.01 | WobWork | "No... over HERE" |
| 01:19.06 | KriLL3 | a bit like guiding a blind man in a maze |
| 01:19.07 | WobWork | "up two floors!" |
| 01:19.13 | WobWork | "No OVER HEEEEREE!!!" |
| 01:19.22 | WobWork | "For Gods sake man, why are you flying west?!!?" |
| 01:19.39 | WobWork | KriLL3: best to say "Under the first C in Icecrown Citadel" |
| 01:19.48 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 01:20.10 | Repo | 10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * v1.2.1 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fix button capturing/dragging. Works with the LFG icon now, among others. Added Shamanism preset by Jaygoody. |
| 01:20.18 | Repo | 10sexymap: 03Antiarc 04v1.2.1 * ad3d79b /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.2.1 |
| 01:20.19 | marshen | you do wipe after wiping in the instance? i wipe after forming a grp of 5 and queing up... "enter instance" button is too hard to press ;) |
| 01:20.27 | WobWork | Antiarc: shamanism? |
| 01:20.36 | KriLL3 | is there a way to save your interface/addon settings except logging out and in again? |
| 01:20.44 | marshen | /RL |
| 01:20.45 | KriLL3 | this crashing is annoying, resets all changes |
| 01:21.01 | Antiarc | WobWork: It's a preset |
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| 01:21.11 | WobWork | oh a texture/ |
| 01:21.13 | WobWork | ? |
| 01:21.16 | Antiarc | http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1907/wowscrnshot121009001526.jpg |
| 01:21.29 | Antiarc | Series of settings for SexyMap, built off of the default WoW textures |
| 01:21.38 | WobWork | oo |
| 01:21.50 | WobWork | they should totally lose colour as the totems time out |
| 01:21.57 | WobWork | from top down |
| 01:22.37 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: is there a square sexymap that looks sexxeh? |
| 01:23.35 | KriLL3 | I'm using blue rune circles, looks awesome, but it doesn't fit my UI very well, used to have a square minimap with rounded bottom left corner using chincilla |
| 01:23.38 | NivFreak | ckknight: btw, we all had to disable cowtip last night because it was doing something that was pausing framerate every 2 seconds or so in 25man IC |
| 01:23.54 | Stanzilla | cowtip is broken since sunwell |
| 01:24.12 | NivFreak | it's always one of the worst CPU abusers in my UI |
| 01:24.13 | NivFreak | but this was extreme |
| 01:24.20 | Stanzilla | yes, broken. :p |
| 01:24.22 | Arrowmaster | its been broken long before that |
| 01:24.39 | KriLL3 | I use TinyTip if you need a replacement |
| 01:24.45 | NivFreak | I don't like tinytip |
| 01:24.48 | NivFreak | going to try tiptac |
| 01:24.49 | Stanzilla | ckknight has a ace3 port ready that's just missing the texts module *hint* |
| 01:26.08 | Primer | I looked in SavedVariables/FlightHUD.lua, and found that I have no waypoints defined, yet, in-game I see that FlightHUD.db.profile.waypoints is an empty table (it dumps to [1] = {}), yet, I'm still seeing this error in my PLAYER_LOGOUT event handler which reports the FlightHUD.db.profile.waypoints is nil. Is it that FlightHUD.db.profile has been wiped before then? |
| 01:26.20 | Primer | argh. bugsack's being a bitch...I can't delete old bugs |
| 01:27.09 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2756 ARL.lua: more stupid changes. |
| 01:27.25 | Primer | the only way I've even become aware of this bug is via bugsack's session feature |
| 01:27.36 | Primer | which I didn't even know existed before...unless this is new? |
| 01:27.52 | Arrowmaster | Primer: AceDB-3.0 does stuff on PLAYER_LOGOUT |
| 01:27.53 | MysticalOS | :o arrowmaster fubar ressurection? |
| 01:27.59 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:28.25 | MysticalOS | sends paypal to ck |
| 01:28.47 | Primer | Arrowmaster: yeah, I was told it did, and it seems it's doing it before mine runs |
| 01:28.52 | Antiarc | KriLL3: Sure, there ar elots |
| 01:28.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah go ahead and pay him for not doing anything in years |
| 01:29.01 | Antiarc | KriLL3: You can make Sexymap look literally ike anything you want |
| 01:29.44 | Arrowmaster | Primer: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-db-3-0-tutorial/#w-callbacks |
| 01:29.56 | Arrowmaster | very last one |
| 01:30.43 | Primer | Arrowmaster: excellent, thanks :) |
| 01:30.53 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: is there a way to stop if fading the minimap buttons while moving them? |
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| 01:32.07 | Antiarc | KriLL3: I try to, but it's flaky |
| 01:32.54 | Funkeh` | sigh |
| 01:33.04 | Funkeh` | wasn't there a slash command to do a full recursive dump fo a frame |
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| 01:33.33 | Antiarc | KriLL3: http://imgur.com/DLFXi.jpg |
| 01:33.38 | Antiarc | My sexymap is in the bottom right |
| 01:33.46 | Antiarc | It is very simple, yet functional! |
| 01:33.56 | KriLL3 | yeah nice |
| 01:34.01 | Nechckn | Has anyone seen anything talking about why AddOns, apparently those that use OnUpdate, no longer work when WoW is minimized? |
| 01:34.15 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r257 / (4 files in 1 directory): Fix logout bug. |
| 01:35.12 | Primer | it's not updating? |
| 01:35.16 | Primer | wild guess... |
| 01:35.22 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: is that look part of some preset? |
| 01:35.34 | Nechckn | More to know if it is intended or something else, Primer |
| 01:35.38 | KriLL3 | the border is what I'm interested in |
| 01:36.12 | Primer | It seems that Bugsack's "Wipe saved bugs"...doesn't |
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| 01:40.24 | Antiarc | KriLL3: The border is a custom one I use |
| 01:40.32 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 01:40.49 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/SimpleSquare2.blp |
| 01:40.54 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu 04v0.9.3-beta * r258 : Tagging as v0.9.3-beta |
| 01:40.57 | Antiarc | Rolled it myself. You'll have to add it to sharedmedia |
| 01:41.07 | Primer | Archarodim: care to test that for me? :) |
| 01:41.24 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: thanks |
| 01:41.50 | Primer | Archarodim: I'm pretty happy about how the new waypoint stuff turned out. I just need to add better waypoint management (drag to move, edit title and description) |
| 01:43.13 | Groktar | "lfm naxx, must have 5700+ gear score" |
| 01:43.20 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 01:43.49 | Mikk | Nechckn: yeah apparently wow doesnt fire onupdates when minimized anymore |
| 01:43.55 | Groktar | i put on some random gear and managed to get up to 5701 |
| 01:44.41 | Primer | damn |
| 01:44.54 | Primer | best I can do is about 5400 |
| 01:45.06 | KriLL3 | yeah GS is silly, it doesn't take the actual item's worth for your role, into account, not to mention skill or sanity, but that's harder to measure |
| 01:45.09 | Primer | and that's with a useless item I picked up for that specific purpose :) |
| 01:45.29 | KriLL3 | what I saw the other day in general: "LFM TFA link achi" |
| 01:45.40 | KriLL3 | (threat from above) |
| 01:45.48 | KriLL3 | what achi would that be? crusader? |
| 01:46.42 | steev | kadrahil: so do the things for shadowmourne only come from 25? |
| 01:46.46 | KriLL3 | I can solo chillmaw and his friends np, but that guy insisted on a full party... |
| 01:47.05 | Nechckn | Mikk Any thought as to if that is intentional? |
| 01:47.07 | Shadowed | Mikk: Only if you are in windowed mode |
| 01:47.17 | Archarodim | Primer: The bug at logout appears to be fixed. |
| 01:47.20 | Arrowmaster | i find that funny since when i did play a little right after 3.1 when i was messing with an addon idea, i 2maned that quest with a warrior (he was from the top guild on the server though, but i had shit 10man naxx/heroic gear mostly) and we laughed at how easy we steamrolled it |
| 01:47.24 | Shadowed | Nechckn: Given events still fire when alt tabbed out, not likely |
| 01:47.55 | Primer | Archarodim: excellent. I'm curious, do you plan on using the waypoint features, and if so, would you let me know what you think? |
| 01:48.05 | Nechckn | But fullscreen minimized will work, you are saying, right, Shadowed |
| 01:48.10 | Shadowed | yes |
| 01:48.14 | Nechckn | gotcha |
| 01:48.24 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: I can solo TFA |
| 01:48.25 | WobWork | as a DK |
| 01:48.26 | Nechckn | well, that will do for those with the issue, for now, then |
| 01:48.29 | KriLL3 | makes total sense, no wait, the other word, what is it? wtf! |
| 01:48.31 | WobWork | but then again DKs were OP |
| 01:48.34 | Nechckn | Appreciate it! |
| 01:48.41 | KriLL3 | WobWork: same, feral |
| 01:48.50 | Arrowmaster | WobWork: i could almost solo it as a warlock in my 10man naxx/heroic gear |
| 01:49.01 | NivFreak | I can solo TFA as prot (either warrior or paladin) |
| 01:49.16 | NivFreak | I think even as fury/ret |
| 01:49.17 | Arrowmaster | this was back in 3.1 |
| 01:49.28 | Archarodim | Primer: sure, but I didn't have time for WoW lately (didn't played since 2 weeks), I'll try this weekend I think |
| 01:49.50 | Primer | Archarodim: ok, thanks |
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| 01:51.45 | Repo | 10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * v1.2.2 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Make the instance difficulty banner movable/hidable |
| 01:51.52 | Repo | 10sexymap: 03Antiarc 04v1.2.2 * d0bf708 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.2.2 |
| 01:54.59 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r81 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone: |
| 01:55.01 | Repo | - Fix ticket 20 |
| 01:55.43 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander 043.0.82 * r82 : Tagging as 3.0.82 |
| 01:57.57 | Belazor | Antiarc: how much raep is SexyMap on resources? Convince me to switch from MiniMapster in 3...2...1...go! |
| 02:00.24 | Antiarc | It's very light. With the exception of its mask textures, it uses entirely Blizzard resources. It's written to be performant, but is also very friendly. |
| 02:00.56 | Antiarc | The killer feature, for me, is the ability for it to capture buttons attached to the minimap, let you drag them around any shape map, and have them disappear when you mouse out of the map (if you want) |
| 02:01.20 | Antiarc | It has a full multi-texture layering and animation system, so you can make very flashy maps, or you can make simple maps if you want |
| 02:01.26 | Antiarc | It supports more map shapes than any other map addon, too |
| 02:01.45 | Belazor | 10/10 for effort xD |
| 02:02.13 | Antiarc | I'm adding rectangle masks as we speak. |
| 02:02.57 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: what about rounded corners? |
| 02:03.06 | Antiarc | It has rounded corner masks, yes |
| 02:03.23 | Belazor | is it possible to get minimaps to stack on eachother? Atm I use a button grabber (not that I have more than 2-3 buttons at any given time - heavy LDB (ab)user :p) to get the buttons off my map, since my UI really only allows buttons on the top |
| 02:03.27 | Belazor | err |
| 02:03.29 | Belazor | minimap buttons* |
| 02:03.40 | Antiarc | Sure |
| 02:03.42 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/mnaLX.jpg |
| 02:03.47 | Antiarc | There's a full list of the supported shapes, KriLL3 |
| 02:03.59 | AcTiVaTe | MBB ftw for loads of minimap buttons |
| 02:04.08 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: found it, now how do I get a tooltip like edge that follows that shape? |
| 02:04.22 | Belazor | AcTiVaTe: I'm usingthat atm, but if I can get rid of another addon then I'm all for that ;p |
| 02:04.29 | Antiarc | KriLL3: Unfortunately, you have to roll a custom texture for that |
| 02:04.38 | KriLL3 | :\ |
| 02:04.38 | Antiarc | That's not something Sexymap can automate |
| 02:05.03 | KriLL3 | guess chincilla had a custom tooltip border texture with one corner rounded |
| 02:05.18 | Antiarc | Minimap shapes are defined by masks - basically, just textures where "white" is "show the minimap", and transparent/black is "make this part transparent" |
| 02:05.18 | Antiarc | Right. |
| 02:07.19 | Belazor | It makes objective frame movable? |
| 02:07.38 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 02:07.45 | Antiarc | It does, yes |
| 02:07.53 | Belazor | then I can disable questguru tracker, its causing problems with overachiever :p |
| 02:07.59 | AcTiVaTe | still uses simpleMiniMap that also does that :P |
| 02:09.11 | Antiarc | Oh, also, SexyMap comes with HUDMap |
| 02:09.18 | Antiarc | Which is totally unique and amazingly awesome :P |
| 02:09.51 | NeoTron | Antiarc: so out of curiosity have you noticed that the dungeon tool icon on the minimap is not movable in SexyMap? |
| 02:09.51 | AcTiVaTe | Okies, that's enough marketing for me to give it a shot ;) |
| 02:10.01 | Antiarc | NeoTron: It is now. |
| 02:10.09 | NeoTron | ok cool |
| 02:10.09 | Antiarc | I just committed a button module overhaul today |
| 02:10.23 | Antiarc | Blizzard added a new layer - "MinimapBackdrop" and is anchoring all kinds of stuff to tht |
| 02:10.29 | Antiarc | SexyMap hijacks it all now, of course :D |
| 02:10.32 | KriLL3 | for some reason blizz changed all "LFG" stuff into the new name dungeon finder |
| 02:11.02 | NeoTron | it was detrimental before since my map is at th ebottom. couldn't see the status window :P |
| 02:11.07 | KriLL3 | thus all stuff that manipulated the minimap icon of replicated the menu button etc need updating |
| 02:11.17 | Belazor | is there some secret to dragging? tried most combos and I cant get dragging to work :( |
| 02:11.31 | Antiarc | Belazor: Dragging what? |
| 02:11.36 | Belazor | minimap buttons |
| 02:11.54 | KriLL3 | is it enabled in the options and it's not locked? |
| 02:11.57 | Antiarc | With Sexymap? It should Just Work if "Allow Sexymap to handle button placement" is on under the Buttons module |
| 02:12.05 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/6rpd8.jpg is HUDMap |
| 02:12.12 | Belazor | well it works not for me =( |
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| 02:12.20 | Antiarc | It's an alternate minimap display that shows things like tracking blips on an overlay |
| 02:13.36 | Antiarc | Sexymap -> buttons, uncheck "Lock Button Dragging", check "Let SexyMap handle button dragging" |
| 02:13.37 | KriLL3 | just got my [Mask of Lethal Intent] 75 triumph sure didn't take long to get |
| 02:13.44 | Antiarc | Then you should be able to just drag the button and it'll follow the map shape |
| 02:13.52 | kadrahil | steev: yes |
| 02:14.08 | Belazor | but it doesn't :p buttons are quite fixed |
| 02:14.11 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: fishing buddy's minimap button doesn't seem to remember it's position, and it ignores the shape |
| 02:14.17 | Belazor | I guess I have to try without any other addon |
| 02:14.34 | KriLL3 | makes a round circuit |
| 02:14.40 | Antiarc | KriLL3: That may be Fishing Buddy being too zealous about positioning itself, or it might not be anchored to something that SexyMap doesn't iterate |
| 02:15.04 | KriLL3 | or FB is a buggy pile of *** atm |
| 02:15.11 | Antiarc | Right, that's what I mean :P |
| 02:15.12 | Primer | heh, I setup svn::web on my own web server, and am checking my wowace repo with it |
| 02:15.23 | Belazor | yeah without any other addon, it works just fine |
| 02:15.27 | Antiarc | If it's continually re-positioning itself, it'll override Sexymap's hooks |
| 02:15.27 | Belazor | el sigh |
| 02:15.32 | KriLL3 | Belazor: do you have other minimap addons? |
| 02:15.39 | Antiarc | Belazor: Sounds like you have some other addon interfering, unfortunately! |
| 02:15.42 | Belazor | no I disabled minimapster |
| 02:16.05 | Belazor | time to randomly guess |
| 02:16.12 | KriLL3 | try enabling half |
| 02:16.25 | KriLL3 | then half of that, etc |
| 02:16.40 | Belazor | found it, it was floatingframes |
| 02:17.03 | Antiarc | Ah, yeah, that's probably hijacking Sexymap's positioning handlers. |
| 02:17.12 | Antiarc | It's a giant game of keep-away :P |
| 02:17.16 | Belazor | XD |
| 02:17.19 | Antiarc | MY ONDRAGSTART HANDLER! |
| 02:17.23 | Antiarc | NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT, GIMME |
| 02:17.25 | Antiarc | *TUG* |
| 02:17.28 | Antiarc | *TUG BACK* |
| 02:17.45 | Belazor | rofl |
| 02:17.54 | Antiarc | The wife calls me to dinner |
| 02:17.55 | Antiarc | Back in a bit |
| 02:18.01 | Belazor | om nom nom nom |
| 02:18.02 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: I did something similar to that once, but it was a blanket, and my sister was holding on to it with her teeth |
| 02:18.07 | KriLL3 | suffice to say, she lost one of them |
| 02:18.15 | KriLL3 | which means I won |
| 02:18.20 | Belazor | lmao you mean bastard |
| 02:18.23 | Belazor | is she hot |
| 02:18.34 | KriLL3 | she's married |
| 02:18.44 | Belazor | damn |
| 02:19.41 | Belazor | Im assuming this blanket pulling story didn't happen last thursday then, unless you live in some creepy religious cult |
| 02:19.55 | KriLL3 | nope, I think we were about 6 |
| 02:20.11 | Belazor | explains it xP |
| 02:20.25 | Repo | 10basic-minimap: 03funkydude * r93 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 02:20.27 | Repo | v1.70: Add support for the extra buttons on the wow mouse for toggling, fix the dungeon status indicator. |
| 02:22.12 | Repo | 10basic-minimap: 03funkydude 04v1.70 * r94 : Tagging as v1.70 |
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| 02:35.35 | Belazor | Antiarc: comment out line 851 of Borders.lua plz :p - print("Found preset:", k) - it's kinda spammy on load |
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| 02:40.24 | Amadeo | ok so, I was afk a while after I asked...anyone use a cool minimap addon? |
| 02:40.37 | Amadeo | square, anything else? I don't know what's out there |
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| 02:41.30 | KriLL3 | envisions Antiarc springing out like Stan from Monkey Island to deliver "The Pitch" |
| 02:42.05 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r418 / (2 files in 1 directory): blacklist update |
| 02:44.31 | Belazor | Amadeo: just switched to SexyMap, it's highly configurable |
| 02:46.42 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v4.0.2.0 * r419 : Tagging as v4.0.2.0 |
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| 02:51.59 | steev | kadrahil: damn, okay - not that it matters, i can't get into our 10s |
| 02:54.49 | steev | our first attempt at marrowgar (25) - 44% |
| 02:55.02 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r259 / (3 files in 1 directory): Update flying mounts database. |
| 02:55.31 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu 04v0.9.4-beta * r260 : Tagging as v0.9.4-beta |
| 02:56.46 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/epgp-attendance/. EPGPAttendance. Corg (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 02:58.27 | KriLL3 | WobWork: is there a way to turn off the mrplow minimap icon? |
| 02:59.38 | pentium166 | I just had one of those wow freezes+disappearing windows :( |
| 02:59.55 | KriLL3 | I get one every 30 mins or so |
| 02:59.57 | Stanzilla | happens all the time |
| 03:00.09 | KriLL3 | usually in the middle of boss fights... |
| 03:00.13 | KriLL3 | and I'm the tank |
| 03:00.13 | Amadeo | Which Data Broker display does everyone use? |
| 03:00.22 | KriLL3 | Amadeo: I use titanpanel |
| 03:00.42 | KriLL3 | like it since it's a lot like fubar, a bar |
| 03:00.51 | Torhal | Amadeo: Bazooka |
| 03:00.55 | KriLL3 | most LDB display addons don't make a bar, or it's crude |
| 03:00.58 | Torhal | Closest to FuBar |
| 03:01.06 | Torhal | Titan has no center panel |
| 03:01.10 | Amadeo | Data Broker is new to me, is it lighter weight? |
| 03:01.22 | Amadeo | I mean, the whole package rather than FuBar? |
| 03:01.45 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 03:02.36 | Amadeo | nice |
| 03:02.56 | Amadeo | NinjaPanel looks super light |
| 03:02.56 | pentium166 | I did Icecrown yesterday with no crashes :\ |
| 03:04.35 | steev | aand got him down |
| 03:04.52 | WobWork | KriLL3: kinda but not yet |
| 03:05.04 | KriLL3 | ah, setting but no UI to set it, gotcha |
| 03:07.18 | WobWork | KriLL3: yeah, if you kill the line 95 in MrPlow.lua (the icon:Register) it'll remove it |
| 03:14.54 | Repo | 10libdbicon-1-0: 03Rabbit * r12 LibDBIcon-1.0/LibDBIcon-1.0.lua: |
| 03:14.56 | Repo | Add :EnableLibrary and :DisableLibrary, both untested and drycoded. |
| 03:14.56 | vhaarr | mitch0: ^ |
| 03:15.04 | vhaarr | you test |
| 03:15.05 | vhaarr | :p |
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| 03:22.00 | Funkeh` | falls in love with spotify |
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| 03:30.38 | steev | every time... lady deathwhisper says something, dbm blows up |
| 03:33.17 | steev | kadrahil: so 1 night of 25 will get you to friendly? |
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| 03:34.03 | quiescens | kaboom? |
| 03:36.27 | steev | mmm - yeah - when someone dies and she brags - it throws a lua error |
| 03:37.13 | quiescens | stop letting people die |
| 03:38.50 | rmk` | what's the status of Quartz? |
| 03:39.26 | steev | quiescens: im a death knight, i don't care if someone else is retarded and stand in death and decay |
| 03:39.58 | quiescens | but it would stop your errors |
| 03:39.59 | quiescens | ! |
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| 03:52.06 | kadrahil | steev: not quite |
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| 03:52.09 | kadrahil | steev: 25+10 |
| 03:53.41 | steev | ahh okay |
| 04:00.59 | steev | maybe because im human its better |
| 04:01.07 | rmk` | Anyone else being disconnected right after logging in? |
| 04:01.19 | steev | im just over half way and we're only at lady deathwhisper |
| 04:04.39 | Dessa | rmk`: yes, and the second login works most of the time |
| 04:05.03 | arkanes | steev: wiped a lot on the trash I bet :P |
| 04:15.15 | steev | woohoo |
| 04:15.20 | steev | eh? no |
| 04:15.41 | steev | human gets like 10% bonus to rep |
| 04:15.52 | steev | got deathwhisper to p2 |
| 04:17.08 | Repo | 10epgp-attendance (experimental): 03Corg * r4 EPGPAttendance.lua: EPGPAttendance |
| 04:17.10 | Repo | - Batch up invalidates on a 1 second delay so we can... |
| 04:17.11 | Repo | - Invalidate whenever a guild note changes |
| 04:17.13 | Repo | - On the main page, show all guildmates with an EPGP guild note, even if they don't have attendance history. |
| 04:17.43 | steev | and then we hit her enrage timer heh |
| 04:28.29 | Repo | 10onecore: 03Kaelten * r47 OneCore-1.0 (2 files in 1 directory): adding support functions for enforcing active plugin limits |
| 04:37.05 | Repo | 10epgp-attendance (experimental): 03Corg * r5 EPGPAttendance.lua: EPGPAttendance |
| 04:37.07 | Repo | - Fixed a lua error for a specific edge case in the character page |
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| 04:51.39 | steev | woo! |
| 04:51.40 | steev | got her |
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| 04:59.12 | steev | FUCK YES |
| 04:59.27 | steev | Blood-Soaked Saronite Stompers |
| 04:59.34 | steev | and i rolled a 100 |
| 04:59.54 | steev | i went from greaves of iron intensity (219) to them (264) |
| 05:04.07 | WobWork | steev: if there ever was a time you'd want to roll 100.... =) |
| 05:04.43 | steev | oh believe me |
| 05:05.07 | steev | i'd been asking around since i've never been in on the anub kills when he's dropped the boots |
| 05:07.36 | Repo | 10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r175 AllPlayed.lua: AllPlayed: |
| 05:07.38 | Repo | - Possible fix for minimap button no longer working when pressed (ticket #3) |
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| 05:18.37 | Shefki | Hunter wearing a dodge trinket says: |
| 05:18.39 | Shefki | [21:12:16] [S] [80:Heartles-Hydraxis]: no itson ther i dogd realy ggood wen i get atked part of being a hunter is not geting hit |
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| 05:19.43 | Torhal | Shefki: part of being illiterate is not spelling. |
| 05:19.45 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:20.20 | Shefki | I told him he made the most ridiculous statement I'd seen from a PUG since 3.3 launched. |
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| 05:27.24 | Stanzilla | licks Funkeh` |
| 05:41.35 | WobWork | Shefki: that's really not that much time =P |
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| 06:10.27 | asmodai | Shefki: just since 3.3? |
| 06:10.36 | Repo | 10onecore: 03Kaelten * r48 OneCore-1.0/OnePlugin-1.0.lua: enforces limit checks when attempting to enable disable plugins. Refactored an embedded storage variable, but it should be taken care of in the upgrade statement. |
| 06:10.42 | kandarz | wobin: ping |
| 06:10.57 | asmodai | owww Kaelten's busy ;) |
| 06:11.21 | Torhal | asmodai: Because I'm waving the gun around. |
| 06:12.28 | asmodai | backs away from Torhal |
| 06:12.47 | Repo | 10goblinvendorfilter: 03yssaril 07master * 0.4.0b / (6 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] add isRelevant API filters need to return true to this to be added to the dropdown filter should be irrelevent if they filter out all or nothing. |
| 06:12.54 | Repo | 10goblinvendorfilter: 03yssaril 040.4.0b * f66db97 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.4.0b |
| 06:13.19 | Repo | 10broker_lfd: 03ulic * r7 Broker_LFD.lua: |
| 06:13.21 | Repo | Mostly working now, ready for a beta, still a few tooltip issues |
| 06:13.41 | Yssaril | ulic: hurray |
| 06:13.56 | Repo | 10broker_lfd: 03ulic 04v1.0-beta1 * r8 : Tagging as v1.0-beta1 |
| 06:14.09 | ulic | the tooltips are a bit screwy when you're in a group, but the main stuff all works. |
| 06:14.10 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/epgp-attendance/. EPGPAttendance. Corg (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 06:14.22 | Yssaril | ulic: define screwy? |
| 06:14.56 | ulic | when you are in a group and you mouse over instead of saying "You're in a group", it's just empty, but the click stuff works, like to port and what not. |
| 06:15.12 | ulic | and teh status of course |
| 06:15.21 | Kaelten | ~lart asmodai |
| 06:15.21 | purl | resizes asmodai's terminal to 40x24 |
| 06:15.23 | Kaelten | ~lart Torhal |
| 06:15.23 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up Torhal |
| 06:15.30 | Yssaril | hmm why not simply reanchor blizzards tooltip? |
| 06:15.31 | asmodai | Kaelten: whut?! |
| 06:15.50 | asmodai | wasn't complaining :( |
| 06:15.52 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:15.56 | ulic | Yssaril: for the most part that's what I'm doing. |
| 06:15.57 | Kaelten | ~comfort asmodai |
| 06:15.59 | purl | There, there, asmodai. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 06:16.10 | asmodai | backs away from purl |
| 06:16.25 | ulic | Yssaril: but I can only test it in a group, and they usually want to actually do the instance, so not more time for tweaks and reloads. |
| 06:16.36 | Yssaril | lol |
| 06:16.46 | ulic | *much |
| 06:17.30 | ulic | for me it works well enough to say bu-bye minimap icon, and I'll get the pretty stuff later. |
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| 06:17.38 | Yssaril | mind if i look through it tomorrow (have some down time while my car is getting fixed) |
| 06:18.21 | ulic | not at all, knock yourself out, if you recall, I'm a self-proclaimed hack of programmer :) |
| 06:18.31 | Yssaril | ditto :P |
| 06:18.53 | ulic | so are 2 hacks > 1? :) |
| 06:19.00 | Yssaril | always |
| 06:19.10 | ulic | off to bed, good night |
| 06:19.13 | Yssaril | night |
| 06:19.32 | asmodai | No rest for the wicked! |
| 06:20.32 | asmodai | You guys also get this 'unable to verify game version' the first time you log in? |
| 06:21.00 | Yssaril | nope |
| 06:22.03 | Torhal | asmodai: Known issue. It "fixes" itself second time through |
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| 19:13.13 | nevcairiel | did the forums just die? |
| 19:13.24 | nevcairiel | hm now its back |
| 19:13.26 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 19:21.24 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r147 / (3 files in 1 directory): -fix the color setting after the 4 second transfer |
| 19:21.26 | Repo | -remove debug prints |
| 19:21.27 | Repo | -adjust AddonLoader loading |
| 19:21.28 | Repo | -fix YNIAP spam |
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| 19:26.30 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2758 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 19:26.31 | Repo | Added, Larana Drome <Inscription Supplies>, to the vendor database. |
| 19:26.32 | Repo | Added the acquire data to the 3 new glyphs added in 3.3. |
| 19:28.02 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r148 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:28.04 | Repo | -order options for the cooldown bars so colors aren't scattered everywhere |
| 19:28.05 | Repo | -remove printing to the UIErrorFrame, the option seemed to confuse some users and was not used often |
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| 19:37.35 | Primer | Does anyone know of an svn web proxy to wowace? |
| 19:37.57 | Primer | Because if no such thing exists, I just made one |
| 19:38.04 | durcyn | what, a repo browser? |
| 19:38.08 | Primer | yeah |
| 19:38.17 | arkanes | I've been looking for one myself |
| 19:38.20 | Primer | http://ceregatti.org/svnweb/index.cgi/your-mod-here |
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| 19:39.41 | arkanes | "Item is not readable: at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/SVN/Web/action.pm line 245" |
| 19:39.56 | Grum | how can you move the achievement-tracking frame? |
| 19:40.17 | arkanes | oh, but thats for bartender which only has a git repo, my bad |
| 19:40.21 | Gaz2 | thats excellent! |
| 19:41.19 | Primer | well, I wanted this just for myself, and was easy enough to just put the URL of my repo in the SVN::Web config file, but then I thought "Hrmm, I should just be able to hack this to make it serve up any wowace SVN repo" |
| 19:41.21 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2759 Docs/Documentation.txt: Clean up the Documentation.txt doc a bit. |
| 19:41.23 | Primer | took like 10 minutes :) |
| 19:41.45 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r149 / (2 files in 2 directories): -clean up enUS locale file |
| 19:42.00 | Repo | -fix test function to work with the new bars |
| 19:43.01 | Primer | I suppose I could go for the gusto and include an index page with all the svn repos in wowace, but I think I'll leave this as it is |
| 19:43.07 | arkanes | Grum: hmm it looks like they removed the option that used to let you do it |
| 19:43.18 | Grum | aye thought so |
| 19:43.18 | arkanes | Grum: you'll probably need to use an addon like MoveAnything |
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| 19:45.47 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 6218742 / (6 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 19:45.50 | Repo | 6218742: /slash command and LDB launcher open config now |
| 19:45.51 | Repo | e291137: made filters modular like i did with GoblinVendorFilter to make it easy to add more filters if necessary also added options for our filters :) |
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| 19:47.24 | Repo | -put group and instance limits back on the combatlog handler |
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| 19:52.27 | asmodai | Man, if you haven't played an intense FPS like team fortress 2 for a few months you really need to adjust to the speed :| |
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| 19:52.28 | asmodai | I now understand why some people get motion sick |
| 19:52.28 | Grum | gah! WatchFrame:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT",UIParent,"TOPRIGHT",-160,-10) |
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| 19:55.46 | Fisker | you here Antiarc ? |
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| 20:03.06 | asmodai | Antiarc: Is sexymap supposed to print the presets it finds on startup (I am guessing every time)? |
| 20:03.26 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia 043.1.1 beta1 * r151 : Tag as 3.1.1 beta1 |
| 20:03.54 | asmodai | Feels like a stray debugging print. |
| 20:17.28 | Hjalte | Any t9 resto druids around? I am usually moonkin/bear, but I might change one to resto. Is the t9 4-set resto bonus worth it? |
| 20:17.37 | asmodai | Fisker: Fixed your crashes yet? |
| 20:18.52 | Shefki | Hjalte: It's an ok bonus, however now that you need so much haste to get to a 1 second GCD I've dropped the 4 piece. |
| 20:18.59 | CrazyBenny_ | I believe it's problem on wow's side, so cant really do anythign to fix it |
| 20:20.09 | asmodai | Mmm , that sucks |
| 20:20.36 | Hjalte | Shefki: Oh, so I might actually want to use some of my tri-stat damage gear? |
| 20:21.46 | Shefki | Hjalte: Well if you spec into Celestial Focus you need 735 haste to get to the 1 second GCD. |
| 20:22.18 | Shefki | I tend to think having the low GCD so you can have more hots running is better than a crit bonus that's mostly just overheal anyway. |
| 20:22.45 | Hjalte | I see your point. Is there an amount of spirit I should aim for to not go oom too fast? |
| 20:23.42 | Shefki | Hmm. Hard for me to say. I've got 1100 unbuffed and don't really have mana issues. But I've also running both of the Solace trinkets. |
| 20:24.24 | Shefki | How much regen you need really tends to be a personal thing. Some people build around using their own innervate. |
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| 20:24.29 | Shefki | Others build around giving it to other people. |
| 20:24.47 | harl | i wish Mapster had this cute and extremely handy lock/unlock-by-a-modifier feature the older branch of Cartographer had. *peering at nevcairiel* |
| 20:25.34 | Shefki | I wish the new minimize thing worked right all the time. :( |
| 20:26.08 | asmodai | harl: what did it do? |
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| 20:28.03 | harl | asmodai: it enabled me do permanently "lock" the map, so that all my mouseclicks would go through the map (as well as mousing over any stuff "behind" the map frame). then, when pressing a modifier key, it would temporarly allow mouse clicks to the map until the modifier was released. |
| 20:28.27 | asmodai | ah |
| 20:28.38 | Shefki | I'm not sure that's even possible now that they've secured the map frame. |
| 20:28.42 | asmodai | I couldn't play like that, but I can see how that is useful. |
| 20:28.53 | nevcairiel | Shefki: i worked aroudn the secure shit now |
| 20:28.59 | nevcairiel | should be better in new versions |
| 20:29.16 | nevcairiel | you just dont see the blue blobs in combat anymore |
| 20:29.19 | harl | it'd basically be a modifier-based switch for the lock/unlock feature the map already has (which is interchangable with having Mapster loaded) |
| 20:29.28 | Shefki | blue blobs? |
| 20:29.37 | nevcairiel | the quest-area-blobs |
| 20:29.46 | harl | if bliz secured that, they totally failed. |
| 20:29.51 | Shefki | Bahh I turned that crap off. |
| 20:29.53 | Shadowed | nevcairiel: That's an interesting work around :p |
| 20:30.08 | nevcairiel | its the only reason the frame is secure |
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| 20:30.22 | nevcairiel | so if i remove that frame from the worldmap |
| 20:30.25 | nevcairiel | its no longer secure |
| 20:30.26 | nevcairiel | yay :P |
| 20:31.08 | asmodai | Why would they secure that? |
| 20:31.29 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 20:31.42 | Shadowed | Yea I honestly can't think of a valid reason to secure it |
| 20:32.12 | yoshimo | healbots ultralowcomm, doesnt support druid hots i guess? |
| 20:32.22 | Shadowed | nope |
| 20:32.28 | Shadowed | last I looked at least |
| 20:32.42 | yoshimo | 2 hb messages from the druid and 200 lhc4 ;) |
| 20:32.57 | Shadowed | Yea that's probably a good indicator |
| 20:33.13 | harl | at least i'd say that this modifier feature was one of Cartographer's main advantages for me, although being just a tiny fraction of the whole thing. |
| 20:33.31 | nevcairiel | except that mapster cant be locked right now :D |
| 20:34.25 | asmodai | boo ;) |
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| 20:36.05 | harl | well, it has a "Disable Mouse" feature though |
| 20:37.39 | harl | and even something about "enablemouse-on-alt" in the code |
| 20:38.11 | harl | oh, that's in LibWindow |
| 20:38.24 | Xuerian | <3 mapster. |
| 20:42.38 | asmodai | Jesus, people asking 25k gold for Battered Hilt |
| 20:43.14 | CrazyBenny_ | hehe, it's goin for 17k here and people are still buying it |
| 20:43.22 | harl | oO |
| 20:43.46 | CrazyBenny_ | rewards some hot weapons tho |
| 20:44.36 | Groktar | boggle |
| 20:44.46 | Groktar | they're only 251 |
| 20:44.55 | Groktar | same as normal icc 10 |
| 20:46.25 | steev_ | still better than totc(25) |
| 20:46.33 | genetik- | yeah, but they require zero effort |
| 20:46.38 | genetik- | and scrubs love that |
| 20:46.45 | CrazyBenny_ | ^ |
| 20:47.09 | steev_ | genetik-: eh? |
| 20:47.20 | Fisker | slaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:47.26 | steev_ | effort to get an item doesn't make it better |
| 20:47.30 | steev_ | stats make an item better |
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| 20:48.52 | genetik- | i didn't say that |
| 20:49.32 | genetik- | 10man raids require more effort than 5man dungeons |
| 20:49.43 | CrazyBenny_ | or gathering 15k |
| 20:49.58 | genetik- | so if a scrub can get an item out of a 5man dungeon without setting foot inside a raid, they'll do that |
| 20:50.25 | Belazor | asmodai: its only ever been 20k here, its down to an incredible bargain of 15k now |
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| 20:55.53 | NeoTron | a guildy sold his for 6.5k or so |
| 20:55.54 | NeoTron | seems your server(s) are a bit more insane :P |
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| 20:58.16 | NeoTron | the nerf or the change? :P |
| 20:58.35 | CrazyBenny_ | is it just me, that cant see any bars in bigwigs on marrowgar? |
| 20:58.35 | steev_ | the change |
| 20:58.36 | steev_ | i can't get a good reading in recount |
| 21:02.09 | CrazyBenny_ | the game freezes arent funny anymore..always happens at pull:( |
| 21:06.37 | yoshimo | CrazyBenny_ , which bigwigs version are you using? |
| 21:06.51 | CrazyBenny_ | latest alpha |
| 21:07.20 | yoshimo | define latest , i might have messed it up with the "fix" i committed eaerlier |
| 21:07.40 | yoshimo | i guess i did ;) |
| 21:07.41 | CrazyBenny_ | 6845 |
| 21:08.01 | CrazyBenny_ | I've seen oen bar but without description :S |
| 21:08.04 | CrazyBenny_ | one* |
| 21:08.28 | yoshimo | i found it... |
| 21:11.26 | Primer | Anyone know if any old head enchants became BoA too, like BC rep ones? |
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| 21:11.47 | Primer | Sim |
| 21:11.55 | Taladris | They still show BoP |
| 21:12.04 | Primer | in atlas, yes |
| 21:12.12 | Taladris | then again, so do the current ones |
| 21:12.12 | asmodai | Does > after a conversion in a format() serve any specific purpose? Haven't been able to find any docs on it so far. |
| 21:12.13 | Taladris | hrm |
| 21:12.14 | Primer | I'm wondering if it just hasn't been updated |
| 21:13.05 | Primer | I suppose I could just travel to outland and find ouit |
| 21:13.07 | Primer | out |
| 21:13.52 | Taladris | Yeah, I would, but I'm leveling an alt right now in Tundra |
| 21:14.07 | Primer | heh, all my alts are low level, but my kid has a 62 lock |
| 21:14.10 | Taladris | \o/ for friends coming online to save me from my bordom. |
| 21:14.20 | Primer | and was wondering if I could help him out...he already has 700sp |
| 21:16.15 | asmodai | nevcairiel: What would %s> amount to in format()? String expansion and ? |
| 21:16.34 | Primer | a ">" following it |
| 21:16.42 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 21:16.54 | nevcairiel | > is nothing special |
| 21:16.55 | asmodai | Then I am correlating the wrong piece of code with some output *sigh* |
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| 21:29.38 | asmodai | Trade chat anal jokes again |
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| 21:42.43 | Nechckn | What is the issue, then? |
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| 21:43.07 | sztanphet | damn client |
| 21:43.32 | Shadowed | kicks Repo |
| 21:43.43 | asmodai | Mmm, I can remember a time when you could watch the ticket wait status change while you waited. |
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| 21:45.20 | Repo | 10craftdb: 03Trellmor * r16 CraftDB.toc: Fixed: Interface bump to 3.3 |
| 21:47.10 | Repo | 10craftdb: 03Trellmor 040.1.5 * r17 : Tagging release 0.1.5 |
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| 21:57.25 | Repo | 10perfectscreenshot: 03Trellmor * r15 PerfectScreenshot.toc: *cought* |
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| 22:02.30 | Antiarc | Shadowed: How do I get a unit's LFD role? |
| 22:02.37 | Shadowed | unno |
| 22:02.45 | Shadowed | second |
| 22:02.49 | Shadowed | local isTank, isHealer, isDamage = UnitGroupRolesAssigned(frame.unitOwner) |
| 22:02.58 | Antiarc | great |
| 22:03.11 | Shadowed | PLAYER_ROLES_ASSIGNED and PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED are the events you want Antiarc |
| 22:03.42 | Antiarc | I'm going to write a little addon that logs party members and their roles when you complete a dungeon |
| 22:03.55 | Antiarc | And lets you basically say "yay good" or "boo bad" |
| 22:04.00 | Fisker | Antiarc :( |
| 22:04.04 | Antiarc | And keep history and then query guild when you join a party |
| 22:04.10 | Fisker | I LOVE YOU |
| 22:04.12 | Antiarc | So if someone else has run with those people you have some info on them |
| 22:04.18 | Shadowed | interesting |
| 22:04.27 | Shadowed | I was thinking of writing some sort of more complex version of GS |
| 22:04.34 | Antiarc | We could roll it into this |
| 22:04.42 | Shadowed | We need a name! |
| 22:04.43 | rmk | Anyone know if there are plans to update Pitbull3? |
| 22:04.45 | Antiarc | The failing of my kind of addon is lack of social uptake |
| 22:04.56 | Shadowed | I was thinking something like this: |
| 22:04.56 | Antiarc | If we roll together gearscore + achivements + group history, it could be kickass |
| 22:05.03 | Shadowed | yea that's basically what I was thinking |
| 22:05.04 | Stanzilla | rmk: use 4 :p |
| 22:05.14 | Antiarc | k, let's do this and make awesome phat curse points from it |
| 22:05.18 | Shadowed | whoo! |
| 22:05.22 | Shadowed | Probably something like |
| 22:05.27 | Fisker | Anyway you could make it so broker_lfd doesn't show that big huge box every time i mouse over the broker display? |
| 22:05.31 | Balreign | Antiarc, you left two print in SexyMap v 1.2.2 (one in Borders.lua line 851, and one in General.lua line 290) |
| 22:05.37 | Antiarc | Balreign: I'll fix them, thanks |
| 22:05.44 | Balreign | np |
| 22:05.52 | Shadowed | actually I'll just pasty this |
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| 22:07.59 | Repo | 10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * v1.2.2b / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Remove debugging statements |
| 22:08.06 | Repo | 10sexymap: 03Antiarc 04v1.2.2b * 7c1ecfe /: [new tag] Tag for packager |
| 22:08.51 | Shadowed | Gear aspect that would show the item, the item level and the item type, the item type being detected from the stats. Defense makes it a tank item, SP makes it a caster item, Hit makes it a DPS item etc, this would also apply to the items gems. Average ilvl would be shown of all their gear, as well as the ilvl of items that drop from dungeons, so Naxxramas 10 man would be 200 - 213, 25 would be 213 - 226 and so on. Some sort of basic |
| 22:08.57 | Shadowed | Achievements + Kill stats, for example it would automatically figure out if they've done a dungeon before and how much they've done, have they done hard modes etc, essentially like Experience but a little more combined. |
| 22:09.00 | Shadowed | Antiarc ^ was what I had been thinking |
| 22:09.14 | Antiarc | Nice. |
| 22:09.34 | Shadowed | Some sort of basic syncing too, but it would probably be opt in or something like "X is requesting your data on Y person, would you like to send your info" |
| 22:09.35 | Antiarc | We can hijack Experience and use code from that, I'll write the party logger/survey bit, if you want to work on gear analysis. |
| 22:09.41 | Shadowed | that works |
| 22:09.50 | Antiarc | This is going to be awesome. |
| 22:09.54 | Shadowed | Will have to do a custom UI so I'll think up something for that |
| 22:09.56 | Shadowed | we also need a name :p |
| 22:10.03 | Shadowed | I suggest Awesome Standard Score so we get ASS for an abbreviation |
| 22:10.07 | Balreign | couldn't you just look into achievments? |
| 22:10.14 | Antiarc | SexyGroup? :V |
| 22:10.21 | Antiarc | Balreign: That's what Experience does |
| 22:10.24 | Shadowed | that works |
| 22:10.31 | Balreign | oh |
| 22:10.48 | Antiarc | Shadowed: TestYourMight |
| 22:10.58 | Antiarc | MORRRRRRTAAAAAAAAL KOMBAAAAAAAAATTTTT |
| 22:11.09 | Shadowed | SexyGroup is better :p |
| 22:11.20 | Antiarc | I'm fine using it if you want, but it's not really a flashy UI mod thing :P |
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| 22:11.25 | Antiarc | But if you like it I'm okay with it! |
| 22:11.27 | weab | isn't it bad enough that we already have gearscore |
| 22:11.32 | weab | why must you add to the gayness |
| 22:11.34 | Antiarc | Yes, that's why we're going to fix it |
| 22:11.37 | ulic | Antiarc: thanks for the tweaks/adds to LFD, can't wait to get home and check them out. |
| 22:11.38 | Shadowed | This is going to be a bit better |
| 22:11.48 | Shadowed | This will probably end up being a flash UI mod thing |
| 22:11.55 | Antiarc | ulic: Sure, I was gonna ask permission to commit first, but the project said "hack away" :) |
| 22:12.00 | Shadowed | We can pull in let it snow and make it rain down badges on a succesful group! |
| 22:12.05 | Antiarc | Excellent! |
| 22:12.21 | Antiarc | We could ALSO have it have the ability to transmit your alts' scores, with a "hey, this is untrusted" flag. |
| 22:12.23 | ulic | Antiarc: yep, for just that reason, rather have a quality project, than one that takes me to long to finish :) |
| 22:12.41 | Antiarc | So when I'm on my failwarrior the mod could say "you know, his rogue's awesome, he's not a terrible player" |
| 22:12.46 | Shadowed | haha |
| 22:12.49 | Antiarc | I dunno if that's overthinking it though |
| 22:12.50 | Shadowed | But we have no way of verifying it? |
| 22:12.53 | Antiarc | Right |
| 22:12.58 | Antiarc | So you'd flag that data as untrusted. |
| 22:13.02 | Fisker | you h8 me Antiarc ;( |
| 22:13.04 | Antiarc | I dunno if that's a can of worms we want though |
| 22:13.05 | Shadowed | I like that, but let's get the basic version first |
| 22:13.08 | Antiarc | Fisker: With a passion |
| 22:13.17 | Shadowed | I'd probably just flag anything that's not coming from the player themselves on themselves as untrusted |
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| 22:15.19 | weab | i don't see the point of broadcasting that someone's main has good gear |
| 22:15.19 | Fisker | well it's alright Antiarc |
| 22:15.23 | weab | doesn't mean they play worth a shit |
| 22:15.27 | weab | who cares |
| 22:15.30 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexygroup/repositories/mainline/ |
| 22:15.41 | Shadowed | bastard beat me to it |
| 22:15.47 | Shadowed | gimmie permission so I can edit stuff |
| 22:16.09 | Antiarc | in the process |
| 22:16.13 | Shadowed | FASTER SLAVE |
| 22:16.14 | Shadowed | FASTER |
| 22:16.16 | Fisker | why is everything you make sexy Antiarc ? |
| 22:16.22 | Shadowed | Because he's sexy of course |
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| 22:16.32 | Antiarc | Okay, there you go |
| 22:16.32 | Balreign | true |
| 22:16.45 | Antiarc | It's a "brand name" |
| 22:17.15 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03mysticalos * r173 LibFail-1.0.lua: |
| 22:17.17 | Repo | Fix one bad spellid for heroic explosion, should now be correct 2 knockback ids. Also added 2 non heroic explosion IDs as optional fail for taking needless damage. |
| 22:17.25 | Stanzilla | only failed at chatter :P |
| 22:17.49 | ulic | mv chatter sexychat |
| 22:18.08 | Stanzilla | it was chatterbox before |
| 22:18.31 | Antiarc | It was chatterbox, but someone made a claim on the na,e |
| 22:19.36 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03mysticalos * r196 EnsidiaFails.lua: |
| 22:19.38 | Repo | incorporate gunship explosion changes. non heroic Ids off by default |
| 22:21.27 | Repo | 10sexygroup: 03Antiarc 07master * 9f59efb / (3 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Add TOC, core, group history module skeleton |
| 22:22.04 | yoshimo | is it possible that the bars for bigwigs remain there until i release my ghost? |
| 22:22.26 | asmodai | Antiarc: sexygroup? |
| 22:22.35 | yoshimo | the jormungar timers were gone somehow |
| 22:22.54 | Antiarc | sexygroup is going to be a gearscore super mega awesome platinum dragon edition that shadowed and I are working on |
| 22:23.02 | asmodai | Antiarc: Should I become interested? :) |
| 22:23.06 | Antiarc | Yes, of course |
| 22:23.15 | Shadowed | It'll have some more info on it soon |
| 22:23.17 | Fisker | fix broker_lfd first |
| 22:23.22 | Antiarc | worksforme |
| 22:23.26 | Fisker | btw how will you track people? |
| 22:23.29 | Fisker | guids? |
| 22:23.48 | asmodai | Antiarc: is it a gearscore replacement or more than that? |
| 22:23.55 | Antiarc | Fisker: Yeah |
| 22:23.57 | Fisker | Antiarc it keeps popping up with that frame with the queue status every time i mouse over it |
| 22:24.00 | Antiarc | asmodai: More than that |
| 22:24.07 | Antiarc | Fisker: Even when not queued? |
| 22:24.11 | asmodai | Antiarc: social stuff? chatter stuff? |
| 22:24.16 | nevcairiel | why do you even write shit like gearscore or similar? |
| 22:24.21 | nevcairiel | gear doesnt score people |
| 22:24.25 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: Because We Can! (TM) |
| 22:24.26 | asmodai | Antiarc: I have a few addons I would *love* to replace |
| 22:24.37 | weab | that's a bad reason. |
| 22:24.46 | Shadowed | because we can |
| 22:24.47 | Antiarc | asmodai: gear score with intelligence, not just ilevel, grouping history with role/rating on how well they did, achievement comparison, etc |
| 22:24.51 | Shadowed | and that's why we aren't going primarily by gear |
| 22:24.53 | MysticalOS | nev, try doing heroic PoS with a tank that has 25kHP buffed, and watch him get one shot every time tyrannus does forceful smash (50k before mitigation attack) |
| 22:24.56 | asmodai | Antiarc: mmm, interesting |
| 22:25.07 | Antiarc | I wanted to write an addon to log your group history, and let you rate each person at the end of a run |
| 22:25.10 | eidolarr_ | in the past addons with social evaluation components have failed |
| 22:25.13 | nevcairiel | MysticalOS: i don't need gear score to know when a tank fails |
| 22:25.13 | Gagorian | Antiarc: If you're interested I've been thinking about setting up spell rotations in DrDamage for some time now. If you feed the delta values into a table, it'd be possible to get the actual rotation DPS differences |
| 22:25.17 | Antiarc | And shadowed wanted to write an intelligent gear checker |
| 22:25.35 | Shadowed | Not sure, probably going to keep it relatively simple |
| 22:25.45 | Shadowed | It'll mostly be things like, that tank is using INT |
| 22:25.51 | Antiarc | eidolarr_: I know, but gearscore works because it doesn't require a social component, so if you merge the two... |
| 22:25.58 | Antiarc | Get personal use out of the addon without any social component, but tack on social value-add |
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| 22:26.21 | MysticalOS | we have an arms warrior that has a douch spirit set to mess with people, he hasa heroic justiebringer enchanted for spirit. makes people cry |
| 22:26.23 | eidolarr_ | but if you merge the two the social component the objections become more persuasive |
| 22:26.49 | eidolarr_ | it may be better off as like, two distinct addons that can plug in? |
| 22:26.59 | MysticalOS | wow osmoene broke chinchilla :o |
| 22:27.22 | MysticalOS | 11 lua erorrs on login |
| 22:27.33 | Shadowed | http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexygroup/ |
| 22:27.35 | Shadowed | there we go |
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| 22:28.13 | Shadowed | Will have to figure out how we want the achievement/stats stuff to work Antiarc |
| 22:28.23 | Shadowed | can't purely use the kill data since that doesn't tell you heroic vs non heroic |
| 22:29.04 | Stanzilla | you guys sould do sexyauras first :p |
| 22:29.07 | Stanzilla | *h |
| 22:29.11 | Shadowed | we could |
| 22:29.12 | Shadowed | but this is more fun |
| 22:29.21 | Shadowed | And GearScore is a bigger travisty against coding than power auras |
| 22:29.36 | Aeyan | Not sure it'd be too far inaccurate even if you did use the kill data |
| 22:29.44 | Aeyan | It's rare people just farm the hell out of a normal |
| 22:29.44 | asmodai | Antiarc / Shadowed : How do you anticipate dealing with fucknuts who rate always high or low. |
| 22:29.54 | Shadowed | That's why it'll tell you where data comes from |
| 22:29.56 | Aeyan | and if they did, it was probably with intelligent reason |
| 22:30.24 | Aeyan | Guess that doesn't work for raid 10/25 though |
| 22:30.34 | Aeyan | Was just thinking of 5-mans |
| 22:30.49 | Shadowed | Antiarc what are you going to use AceHook-3.0 and console for |
| 22:31.19 | asmodai | Antiarc / Shadowed: Actually, I might even be able to help there. Part of my work deals with that kind of stuff. |
| 22:31.27 | Shadowed | oh? |
| 22:32.22 | asmodai | Shadowed: My work is related to AI and intelligent agents, this includes collective intelligence. |
| 22:32.41 | Antiarc | Shadowed: I dunno, I copied Chatter's TOC and will carve out pieces if they are unneeded |
| 22:32.46 | Shadowed | That's what I figured |
| 22:32.49 | Shadowed | don't worry got it |
| 22:32.51 | Antiarc | asmodai: That'd be interesting! |
| 22:32.52 | Shadowed | setting up the pkgmeta |
| 22:33.16 | Antiarc | Shadowed: I'm thinking for gear, we have a pass/no pass (tank wearing spell pen how can this be), and a "tier level" (heroics, naxx, ulduar, ToC, ICC) |
| 22:33.26 | Antiarc | Rather than some arbitrary score |
| 22:33.27 | asmodai | Antiarc: I should have relevant stuff in my box here to deal with people trying to skew the system |
| 22:33.35 | Antiarc | We could also have a perclass/spec talent check |
| 22:33.49 | weab | oh god |
| 22:33.52 | weab | please just stop |
| 22:33.54 | Antiarc | Make sure a deep assassination rogue is using daggers, that fury warriors have mortal strike, etc |
| 22:34.02 | Shadowed | The main problem with talent checking is it becomes a bitch to maintain |
| 22:34.04 | Antiarc | weab: Why? :P |
| 22:34.10 | Antiarc | yeah, I know |
| 22:34.12 | weab | because it's retarded |
| 22:34.25 | Antiarc | Nah, it's nice to be able to break down a group at a glance |
| 22:34.39 | Shadowed | Tier level is basically the average ilvl the persons wearing/the ilvl of the dungeon thought |
| 22:34.40 | Antiarc | I pug a lot and end up inspecting the tank and/or healer in everyone |
| 22:34.40 | weab | by some arbitrary bullshit that means next to nothing |
| 22:34.44 | Shadowed | Actually |
| 22:34.47 | Shadowed | this isn't going to be arbitrary |
| 22:34.50 | Antiarc | The point is to make it mean something. |
| 22:34.51 | eidolarr_ | why include a rating at all? why not just statistics like avg tank deaths, avg run duration, etc |
| 22:34.54 | Antiarc | Less arbitrary |
| 22:35.01 | weab | it won't |
| 22:35.04 | weab | you're wasting your time |
| 22:35.07 | Antiarc | eidolarr_: ToC is short, Utgarde Pinnacle is long, etc. |
| 22:35.12 | Antiarc | weab: Okay! |
| 22:35.22 | Antiarc | We still enjoy doing this stuff :) |
| 22:35.24 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 22:35.25 | eidolarr_ | average time per |
| 22:35.33 | weab | yeah but if you release it idiots might actually use it |
| 22:35.39 | weab | that's the problem with gearscore. |
| 22:35.42 | Shadowed | That's morewhat the group history stuff should be fine |
| 22:35.46 | Antiarc | If we can make it more useful than Gearscore, mission accomplished |
| 22:35.53 | Shadowed | No the problem with GearScore is that it's broken down directly into "You need X score for Y dungeon" |
| 22:36.00 | Shadowed | and the score is 100% voodoo math |
| 22:36.14 | Antiarc | 95% of my LFD pugs have been fine |
| 22:36.15 | Shadowed | There's no fancy modifiers applied to get a score, it's the average ilvl and average ilvl a dungeon drops |
| 22:36.21 | Antiarc | But I've had a few with some abysmal players |
| 22:36.33 | Antiarc | And the point of the mod should be to identify the abysmal before you have to wipe because of it :P |
| 22:36.43 | Shadowed | Tank deaths and such are probably not worthwhile thought |
| 22:36.48 | Shadowed | Notes info is more useful |
| 22:36.56 | eidolarr_ | I've yet to have a group that failed to complete the dungeon or had to kick anyone, and I have the 50 plaeyr achievement |
| 22:37.12 | eidolarr_ | how do you plan to counteract abuse? say a whole guild decides to give someone a bad name? |
| 22:37.14 | weab | me too |
| 22:37.23 | Shadowed | You accept data |
| 22:37.35 | Shadowed | It's not going to be automatic it'll be something like, "X, Y, Z said this about a person" |
| 22:37.52 | eidolarr_ | so presumably you only take it from your close friends? |
| 22:37.55 | Shadowed | right |
| 22:38.12 | Antiarc | I've got the 50 player achievement and I've had a couple of failed PoS/HoF runs, and one kick. |
| 22:38.14 | Shadowed | Things like syncing of gear information will be opt-out and you will know exactly who is sending data |
| 22:38.28 | Shadowed | but it's not going to be like GearScore where people can send their entire database |
| 22:38.35 | eidolarr_ | that sounds reasonable, I just question whether it is actually more useful than word of mouth |
| 22:38.46 | Shadowed | Word of mouth is harder with cross server stuff |
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| 22:38.50 | Antiarc | The problem is that the pool is too large for decent word of mouth now |
| 22:38.55 | Antiarc | It works fine for server-limited grouping |
| 22:39.07 | eidolarr_ | so say I have a bad experience with someone cross server |
| 22:39.14 | Antiarc | But I've become very aware that I'd like to have some kind of context for my groups with the battlegroup-wide grouping |
| 22:39.18 | eidolarr_ | and I give them bad marks and share it with my friend |
| 22:39.33 | eidolarr_ | my friend, against all odds, ends up in a group with that same person |
| 22:39.43 | eidolarr_ | what is he gonna do? try to convince everyone else to kick them? |
| 22:39.53 | Antiarc | He knows they're bad and can adjust accordingly if needed. |
| 22:40.00 | Antiarc | If it's a weak healer, pull more defensively, etc |
| 22:40.21 | Repo | 10sexygroup: 03Shadowed 07master * 79d903f / (4 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 22:40.23 | Repo | 79d903f: Added AceComm-3.0 too as will need that |
| 22:40.24 | Repo | fc79d18: Added .pkgmeta, Libs/ structure and the TOC setup |
| 22:40.28 | Antiarc | It'd also be interesting to see if you've grouped with people before, since chances aren't great that you'll remember all the people you group with |
| 22:40.52 | eidolarr_ | it seems like a big hammer for a tiny nail |
| 22:40.55 | Shadowed | Oh did you not flag SexyGroup as experimental |
| 22:40.55 | Antiarc | anyhow, if it doesn't take off, we wasted an afternoon and had fun. If it does, maybe we can unseat Gearscore with something more useful |
| 22:41.00 | Antiarc | I guess not, I'll fix it |
| 22:41.34 | eidolarr_ | that's why I think that a tinier, more reasonable gearscore as a standalone addon would be more useful, then add in the other stuff |
| 22:41.47 | eidolarr_ | I just don't want to see it fail to unseat Gearscore because of an additional component that people find distasteful or useless |
| 22:41.57 | Shadowed | Well, GearScore already does a lot of this |
| 22:42.03 | Shadowed | the only part it doesn't do right now is the group history |
| 22:42.14 | Antiarc | People that use gearscore are happy with it |
| 22:42.21 | Antiarc | You have to have a value-add to convince people to switch |
| 22:42.31 | Antiarc | For Omen, the value-add was multi-target metering. Omen won. :P |
| 22:42.32 | eidolarr_ | my problem with gearscore is that people use it as much more accurate a metric than it actually is |
| 22:42.36 | Antiarc | Right. |
| 22:42.38 | Shadowed | right |
| 22:42.40 | Antiarc | We're going to "fuzz" it up a bit |
| 22:42.41 | Shadowed | Which is why we aren't doing scores |
| 22:43.04 | weab | people like scores |
| 22:43.06 | Antiarc | Make it less about voodoo math and more about "this person is mega-overgeared for this" or "how the god did this person get past the blizzard gear filter" |
| 22:43.07 | Shadowed | Somebody who is trying to do a dungeon that drops ilvl 226 gear and is wearing ilvl 180 gear is probably someone you should look at closer |
| 22:43.12 | weab | you won't unseat gearscore without one |
| 22:43.16 | weab | not a chance |
| 22:43.18 | Antiarc | We'll see! |
| 22:43.18 | eidolarr_ | yeah people like a bottom number cutoff to easily check and fill their raid |
| 22:43.18 | Shadowed | Right, which is why we will use item levels |
| 22:43.53 | Shadowed | We could technically fuzz the numbers a bit, so instead of showing item levels show a score for each dungeons, then add maybe 10% onto the players average ilvl |
| 22:43.54 | eidolarr_ | most importantly what spawned this sexy addon brigade |
| 22:44.09 | Antiarc | I've written two Sexy* addons and it's kind of a brand name thing! |
| 22:44.11 | Shadowed | So someone who is wearing 200 ilvl gear and is trying to do naxx 25 will show up as having ilvl 220 |
| 22:44.20 | eidolarr_ | what's the second one? |
| 22:44.23 | eidolarr_ | other than sexymap |
| 22:44.24 | Antiarc | SexyCooldown |
| 22:44.35 | Antiarc | It's a Forte Xorcist replacement with moar awesome |
| 22:44.44 | Antiarc | Multiple bars, modules for tracking any kind of timer you want, etc |
| 22:44.58 | eidolarr_ | hmmm |
| 22:44.59 | Fisker | btw Antiarc |
| 22:45.05 | Shadowed | II need to run, but I'll be back in a few hours and I'll start to work on the UI standpoint |
| 22:45.05 | Fisker | when do you make "SexyReputation"? |
| 22:45.08 | eidolarr_ | is there a GCD module of any sort |
| 22:45.12 | Fisker | So that my rep frame isn't that ugly? |
| 22:45.18 | steev_ | bleh, still no hilt |
| 22:45.19 | Shadowed | Will need a clean way of pulling all of the info into one easy to use panel |
| 22:45.22 | Shadowed | poofs |
| 22:45.46 | Antiarc | eidolarr_: GCD module doesn't really make sense for that kind of display, IMO |
| 22:46.13 | eidolarr_ | yeah but I've yet to find a standalone gcd addon |
| 22:46.37 | eidolarr_ | except cursorcooldown which is a bit bold |
| 22:47.31 | eidolarr_ | i guess i could just mash my buttons harder |
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| 22:53.48 | eidolarr_ | does anyone else run with WINE? if so any stability issues since patch? |
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| 23:02.08 | asmodai | Tuller: So far so good |
| 23:02.28 | Tuller | hurray |
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| 23:05.03 | asmodai | "The magazine should be coming hot off the presses around the end of this holiday season," |
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| 23:12.17 | asmodai | Oh but Antiarc? |
| 23:12.38 | Antiarc | yesh? |
| 23:12.45 | asmodai | Antiarc: Is that 'Found preset' output of SexyMap debug info or normal? |
| 23:12.57 | Antiarc | debug, I've fixed it. |
| 23:13.10 | asmodai | ah cool |
| 23:13.12 | asmodai | thanks ^^ |
| 23:14.55 | koaschten | Hmm i guess its Nerd alert time... sitting on the couch at my parents and joining irc from a handheld |
| 23:16.54 | koaschten | so anyone managed to tickle some numbers out of ckk about how much traffic the patchday generated? |
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| 23:29.26 | Wobin | hm |
| 23:29.51 | Wobin | The report a bug option in CC4 doesn't use the templates assigned by the project =( |
| 23:32.26 | weab | clearly someone doesn't want to look at bugs |
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| 23:38.47 | ckknight | hey all, how's life? |
| 23:38.49 | ckknight | I just sprayed myself in the eye with alcohol |
| 23:38.51 | ckknight | painful, but oh so delicious |
| 23:38.54 | weab | good times. |
| 23:38.55 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: it also submits them all as 'patch' from what ive seen of this weeks cartographer2 tickets |
| 23:39.03 | Fisker | btw Yssaril_ |
| 23:39.05 | Fisker | why break stuff? |
| 23:43.02 | yoshimo | the only addons i use for composing pugs are inspectequip and jeweltips, i see at once where the items come from and if they are enchanted &gemmed |
| 23:43.14 | yoshimo | no gearscore needed |
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| 23:45.39 | Mikk | i quiz people on tactics myself :P |
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| 23:46.04 | yoshimo | thats even better ;) |
| 23:46.47 | CrazyBenny_ | nothing better than common sense :P if you're on the server for a logn time you know loads of good people, they know good people and boom, group/raid is full of decent folks ;) |
| 23:47.12 | Wobin | ckknight, one of the guys at the work christmas party got a "Alcohol Shot Gun" for Kris Kringle |
| 23:47.22 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2462 Core/Filter.lua: - Add a new Filter category for 2 Hand weapons |
| 23:47.30 | yoshimo | mikk, i think a few guildmates will fail at that quizz already, because they only know the parts of the tactic they need to know ;) |
| 23:48.34 | NeoTron | yoshimo: those sound interesting |
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| 23:49.17 | ckknight | Wobin: awesome |
| 23:49.23 | ckknight | Wobin: yea, our Christmas party is tonight |
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| 23:49.36 | ckknight | I'm making Glögg |
| 23:49.38 | ckknight | it's delicious |
| 23:49.41 | ckknight | tastes like Christmas |
| 23:49.54 | NeoTron | why / how did that come about? |
| 23:49.57 | NeoTron | Not a very typical American creation |
| 23:50.06 | NeoTron | and yes, I'm making glögg every christmas too |
| 23:50.10 | ckknight | I'm a naturalized American |
| 23:50.13 | ckknight | not a native-born |
| 23:50.17 | Wobin | Glögg sounds deliciously forn and alcoholic |
| 23:50.26 | ckknight | it is truly awesome. |
| 23:50.30 | NeoTron | Wobin: it can or can not be alcoholic |
| 23:50.44 | ckknight | NeoTron: you think you could give me a recipe on a non-alcoholic version? |
| 23:50.47 | Wobin | what is it? |
| 23:50.50 | ckknight | I need it for this Christmas |
| 23:50.56 | NeoTron | especially spiced (sweatened) wine served warm |
| 23:51.04 | ckknight | Wobin: it's the Scandinavian version of a Long Island Ice Tea :P |
| 23:51.09 | Wobin | ah, like mulled wine? |
| 23:51.14 | ckknight | yea, it's a mulled wine |
| 23:51.19 | ckknight | mine is wine and brandy |
| 23:51.26 | ckknight | and lots of spices |
| 23:51.31 | ckknight | and a pound of brown sugar |
| 23:51.32 | Wobin | I suppose for the non alcoholic version, you just heat it til the alcohol boils out =) |
| 23:51.34 | NeoTron | hmm. I honestly don't know how I'd go about making it in the US. In sweden you'd just use "saft" (juice but not quite) instead of wine |
| 23:51.41 | NeoTron | here we just buy it at IKEA |
| 23:51.49 | ckknight | NeoTron: probably cider? |
| 23:52.06 | ckknight | Wobin: that would be one way. |
| 23:52.10 | NeoTron | Cider might work but it's different. Saft is made from berries |
| 23:52.13 | ckknight | hmm |
| 23:52.17 | ckknight | I don't have a thermometer |
| 23:52.26 | ckknight | so I've just been trying to keep it under 170 deg by guessing |
| 23:52.36 | ckknight | I think I got it down, though |
| 23:52.43 | ckknight | it's on a low heat on the stove right now |
| 23:52.50 | ckknight | and the party is in over an hour |
| 23:52.55 | ckknight | how much spice is too much, NeoTron? |
| 23:52.55 | Wobin | try to light the fumes |
| 23:52.59 | Wobin | if you can, it's too hot =) |
| 23:53.03 | ckknight | hehe |
| 23:53.13 | NeoTron | Sweden typically would use apple juice and black currant juice |
| 23:53.14 | ckknight | Wobin: I'm pretty sure I got it around 140-150 |
| 23:53.22 | ckknight | NeoTron: hmm, I can get currant juice. |
| 23:53.54 | ckknight | NeoTron: There's some norweigan blood on my mom's side. That's where the tradition comes from, afaik. |
| 23:54.06 | Wobin | recalls making mulled wine |
| 23:54.07 | Repo | 10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r93 / (2 files in 1 directory): - added new Kirin Tor rings |
| 23:54.15 | Wobin | it was a wonderously staining experience =P |
| 23:54.45 | Repo | 10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny 041.8.4 * r94 : Tagging as 1.8.4 |
| 23:54.53 | NeoTron | http://tinyurl.com/ybatltt |
| 23:55.01 | NeoTron | svartvinbärs = black currant |
| 23:56.03 | ckknight | Wobin: how so? it's been pretty easy for me thus far. |
| 23:56.13 | ckknight | note: this is the first year I've made it on my own |
| 23:56.23 | Wobin | oh, it could have been the blood orange we added |
| 23:56.37 | NeoTron | I have yet to master making glögg in general... I only tried agian a few years ago and had never made it before than (it's a "dad" thing ;-) |
| 23:56.57 | ckknight | Wobin: too much? |
| 23:57.05 | Wobin | NeoTron, Clearly it's the step where you secretly add two thirds of brandy to the mix =) |
| 23:57.08 | NeoTron | year before last was great, last year however was ... ok but not great |
| 23:57.11 | Wobin | (of a bottle) |
| 23:57.19 | ckknight | Wobin: yea, I've done 3/4 already |
| 23:57.26 | ckknight | gonna put the rest in once I take it off the stove |
| 23:57.33 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03yoshimo * r6846 Citadel/Marrowgar.lua: SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS,might be better |
| 23:57.53 | NeoTron | the amoutn of alcohol can vary between none and .. a lot :) |
| 23:57.55 | Wobin | ckknight, not too much, it was just -everything- was red =) |
| 23:58.19 | ckknight | ah. |
