| 00:00.03 | jnwhiteh | I know that |
| 00:00.06 | jnwhiteh | and thats why I hate it |
| 00:00.24 | Shadowed | jnwhiteh: If you let Clique set different profiles to certain frames you probably would kill most of the reason people use it :p |
| 00:00.40 | jnwhiteh | clique2 supports/will support that |
| 00:00.43 | jnwhiteh | but i dont believe that |
| 00:00.46 | jnwhiteh | "its more configuration" |
| 00:00.55 | jnwhiteh | my response to that is typically 'lick my balls' |
| 00:00.57 | jnwhiteh | but I'm working on it =) |
| 00:01.08 | Shadowed | What, it's more configuration to use Grid? |
| 00:01.11 | arkanes | sure |
| 00:01.14 | Shadowed | No offense to pasta, but it is :p |
| 00:01.17 | Shadowed | and Grid configuration is terrible |
| 00:01.20 | Ingela | WORD |
| 00:01.23 | Ingela | grid config is sooo bad |
| 00:01.30 | jnwhiteh | well I'm not talking about Grid =) |
| 00:01.34 | jnwhiteh | but yes, it is a pain |
| 00:01.52 | Shadowed | Granted I haven't used HealBot, but from what I've seen it does have a bunch of presets which people like |
| 00:01.55 | Shadowed | same with Vuhdo |
| 00:02.03 | jnwhiteh | Yep |
| 00:02.04 | arkanes | is vuhdo a port of healbot? |
| 00:02.09 | NivFreak | lol |
| 00:02.09 | Shadowed | no it's different |
| 00:02.10 | Ingela | lol Shadowed are you a noob or what i bet you use SUF |
| 00:02.11 | arkanes | because i tried that too and it had a lot of the same bugs |
| 00:02.29 | NivFreak | I like grid, but it's config is/was pretty bad. I've been using it long enough that I don't really notice anymore |
| 00:02.30 | jnwhiteh | well as far as I know, Clique2 will be able to do everything they can do, and more |
| 00:02.34 | jnwhiteh | on any unit frames you want |
| 00:02.36 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 00:02.37 | Shadowed | probably more |
| 00:02.41 | Shadowed | code faster! |
| 00:02.42 | arkanes | in particular, buff icons/highlights would stay on after the buff was removed, and failing to update health bars when party members swapped gear |
| 00:02.43 | jnwhiteh | I could market clique more |
| 00:02.43 | Shadowed | cracks whip |
| 00:02.46 | jnwhiteh | but I really don't care. |
| 00:02.53 | steev | doot doot |
| 00:02.53 | jnwhiteh | unit frames should not be click-casting |
| 00:02.56 | jnwhiteh | and vice versa |
| 00:02.56 | Ingela | oh jnwhiteh you made clique? |
| 00:02.59 | jnwhiteh | they're separate addons |
| 00:03.01 | jnwhiteh | Ingela: ofc |
| 00:03.04 | Ingela | n1 |
| 00:03.06 | jnwhiteh | that's WHY Clique started in the first palce |
| 00:03.13 | jnwhiteh | I split Watchdog into Clique and Watchdoguf |
| 00:03.15 | jnwhiteh | which i killed eventuallyu |
| 00:03.24 | jnwhiteh | because other people had made more resilient unit frames |
| 00:03.25 | Ingela | murder |
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| 00:03.25 | Ingela | =( |
| 00:03.32 | jnwhiteh | and _thats_ why I dislike vuhdo and healbot |
| 00:03.37 | arkanes | I use clique to set up click casting on my regular unit frames |
| 00:03.37 | jnwhiteh | those authors don't understand unit frames |
| 00:03.45 | jnwhiteh | arkanes: shoot me an email |
| 00:03.47 | Shadowed | jnwhiteh: Have you looked at the code of HealBot? :p |
| 00:03.59 | NivFreak | has anyone? |
| 00:03.59 | jnwhiteh | i'll need some ideas from you about how you'd be interested in configuring different "sets" in clique. |
| 00:03.59 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 00:04.02 | steev | NivFreak: i love grid too, and been using it a long long time, but, ii still can't set it up past making the uf's bigger or smaller, anything else and i end up breaking it so i leave most parts at default |
| 00:04.02 | arkanes | however, I also like having a specific "for healing" set of unit frames, because I use unmodified left/right clicks for that |
| 00:04.03 | Shadowed | yes unfortunately |
| 00:04.03 | Ingela | i use clique for one single reason to be able to right click on my srf frames to cast pw:s :D |
| 00:04.12 | jnwhiteh | arkanes: clique2 will support that |
| 00:04.13 | NivFreak | steev: that's sad :) |
| 00:04.18 | steev | jnwhiteh: elemental/resto as a shaman |
| 00:04.20 | arkanes | jnwhiteh: that is good news! |
| 00:04.22 | NivFreak | I remember it took me like 3 hours to get grid configured the first time |
| 00:04.33 | NivFreak | btw, wtf happened that grid reset my fonts and a bunch of other shit last week |
| 00:04.36 | jnwhiteh | ouf_freebgrid |
| 00:04.37 | jnwhiteh | is amazing |
| 00:04.38 | jnwhiteh | for a healer |
| 00:04.39 | jnwhiteh | seriously |
| 00:04.41 | Arrowmaster | its always the absolute worst programmers that make the most popular addons, mostly because they are fucking tools and implement every damn feature request they get asap in the most fucking horrible manner possible |
| 00:04.41 | jnwhiteh | just download it |
| 00:04.41 | arkanes | for obvious reasons I don't want clique to be overriding bare left/rightclick on every unit frame |
| 00:04.50 | jnwhiteh | arkanes: ofc |
| 00:04.58 | jnwhiteh | arkanes: i just need to figure out how to let you _configure_ that =) |
| 00:05.03 | arkanes | I'll check that out |
| 00:05.04 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster pretty much |
| 00:05.13 | jnwhiteh | what i'm thinking currently |
| 00:05.20 | jnwhiteh | is you can toss a set of frames into a set |
| 00:05.27 | steev | jnwhiteh: e.g. i *could* set up clique to be shift+lc for just lhw, but when i'm resto, i prefer it to be riptide - of course then when im elemental, when i try to cast lhw by shift+lc, it fails cuz it wants to cast a non-existant spell |
| 00:05.28 | jnwhiteh | and there's no 'default'/'heal'/'harm' in that set |
| 00:05.30 | jnwhiteh | just bindings |
| 00:05.36 | jnwhiteh | and there's no inheritance from that set |
| 00:05.47 | jnwhiteh | steev: clique1 can already do that |
| 00:05.49 | jnwhiteh | it swaps on spec change.. |
| 00:05.59 | jnwhiteh | so I'm not sure i understand |
| 00:06.06 | steev | weird, guess i need to re-set it up when i switch to ele |
| 00:06.15 | jnwhiteh | just click "options" |
| 00:06.16 | steev | seems like it inherited it from resto |
| 00:06.20 | jnwhiteh | create a new profile |
| 00:06.23 | jnwhiteh | and enable profile swapping |
| 00:06.30 | jnwhiteh | and you'll have two distinct profiles for each spec |
| 00:06.35 | jnwhiteh | you don't have to fuck with it after that |
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| 00:06.36 | Ingela | Arrowmaster, reminds me a bit of a discussion i had some weeks ago, my friend said that xperl was the best unit frame addon because it was most popular :D |
| 00:06.42 | NivFreak | jnwhiteh: why is this more compelling that grid? |
| 00:06.46 | arkanes | I use xperl too :( |
| 00:06.48 | jnwhiteh | NivFreak: freebgdrid? |
| 00:06.50 | jnwhiteh | because it works out of hte box |
| 00:06.53 | steev | cool, will have to try that whenever i get to get on the shaman again |
| 00:07.00 | arkanes | "works out of box" is a very useful feature |
| 00:07.06 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 00:07.06 | jnwhiteh | its grid |
| 00:07.07 | Ingela | nothing wrong with x-perl, but i don't think it's best because it's most popluar =D |
| 00:07.07 | jnwhiteh | already set up |
| 00:07.09 | jnwhiteh | for a healer |
| 00:07.10 | NivFreak | grid works out of the box |
| 00:07.14 | jnwhiteh | NivFreak: not quite |
| 00:07.16 | Shadowed | what |
| 00:07.17 | jnwhiteh | not for a serious healer |
| 00:07.18 | arkanes | except buggy and slow |
| 00:07.18 | Shadowed | No it doesn't :p |
| 00:07.42 | arkanes | and the buggy has almost overtaken my desire for works out of box :P |
| 00:07.44 | Ingela | freebgrid looks like shit |
| 00:07.45 | NivFreak | the only reason you say it doesn't, is because the default set of indicators are unclear |
| 00:07.54 | steev | time to go prep for the raid |
| 00:08.01 | jnwhiteh | Ingela: i disagree, wholeheartedly. |
| 00:08.03 | Shadowed | NivFreak: Sorry, but default Grid is not usable out of the box and the configuration is a mess to work with |
| 00:08.22 | Shadowed | and if your defaults are unclear, it's not ready out of the box :p |
| 00:08.25 | arkanes | NivFreak: if you install healbot, and you do nothing else, you get a raid frame thats set up with heal comms, visual heal, cleansable debuff highlighting, click casting for your spells all set up |
| 00:08.28 | NivFreak | Shadowed: so you're a vudhu fan then? |
| 00:08.38 | arkanes | NivFreak: thats certainly not something you get for the same amount of work out of grid |
| 00:08.50 | Ingela | jnwhiteh, i think grid also looks like shit :) |
| 00:08.51 | jnwhiteh | goes to sleep |
| 00:08.55 | jnwhiteh | Ingela: ah, well then |
| 00:08.58 | jnwhiteh | its > grid |
| 00:08.59 | NivFreak | arkanes: sometimes you have to put a little work in to get a quality tool |
| 00:08.59 | Shadowed | night clad |
| 00:09.02 | Shadowed | No I'm a SUF fan :p |
| 00:09.05 | Shadowed | no you don't |
| 00:09.05 | jnwhiteh | because it works well for any healing class |
| 00:09.07 | NivFreak | Shadowed: of course ;P |
| 00:09.09 | jnwhiteh | if you want grid unit frames |
| 00:09.15 | jnwhiteh | PM me requests and shit |
| 00:09.18 | jnwhiteh | i'll miss them in this channel. |
| 00:09.32 | NivFreak | I hear grid2 will bring world peace |
| 00:09.33 | Shadowed | It's realy not that hard to have something that works out of the box |
| 00:09.43 | KriLL3 | is grid even necessary for non healers? |
| 00:09.47 | KriLL3 | or leaders |
| 00:09.49 | fewyn | i like to have grid |
| 00:09.51 | NivFreak | KriLL3: I love it on all my toons |
| 00:09.52 | arkanes | lots of people use grid as generic raid frames |
| 00:09.53 | fewyn | and i'm a dpser |
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| 00:10.03 | fewyn | it's just so nice and compact |
| 00:10.09 | fewyn | (I'm also an officer) |
| 00:10.12 | NivFreak | density of information is important, and I think there's value in a standard as well |
| 00:10.14 | KriLL3 | but does the condition of the rest of the raid really matter for a dps/tank? |
| 00:10.23 | fewyn | i'm a druid |
| 00:10.24 | NivFreak | KriLL3: yes |
| 00:10.28 | KriLL3 | NivFreak: why? |
| 00:10.34 | Shadowed | But generally the important part is having a good configuration, cause no matter how good it is out of the box... if people have to spend 2 hours figuring out how to tweak that one thing? It's useless |
| 00:10.43 | NivFreak | knowing when you're wiping, when to push, so your RL doesn't have to spoon feed your role |
| 00:11.00 | Shadowed | Grid is overkill for people who want to know what is going on with the raid |
| 00:11.03 | NivFreak | Shadowed: most addons are pretty terrible about config, SUF isn't bad, I set it up a couple weeks ago, nice job |
| 00:11.07 | Shadowed | All you really need are basic raid frames |
| 00:11.09 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 00:11.11 | KriLL3 | I know when we wipe, it's when I'm dead, and I'm a tank, I don't push |
| 00:11.13 | Ingela | suf is fucking awesome in config |
| 00:11.21 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * v6.3.3e-beta-1-g5986cc1 SickOfClickingDailies_AltTracking/core.lua: [+1 commit] adjust ldb again |
| 00:11.28 | NivFreak | Shadowed: you've replaced ckknight's PoS in my UI, and show up if I have a pet or focus frame ;) |
| 00:11.33 | NivFreak | ducks |
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| 00:11.41 | KriLL3 | I only need to know my own HP, and use my "I don't want to die" abilities when it gets low and stays low, etc |
| 00:11.44 | Shadowed | But that's mostly what I mean, while Grid could be used out of the box, it doesn't really count when you have to then sort through for 2 hours figuring out what to tweak :p |
| 00:11.45 | NivFreak | to be fair, pb4 was better about config |
| 00:11.48 | ckknight | NivFreak: be nice |
| 00:11.52 | NivFreak | ckknight: <3 |
| 00:12.29 | NivFreak | Shadowed: the only thing that was non-obvious was cast bars, but I found it in a couple mins |
| 00:12.40 | Shadowed | Non-obvious because you have to scroll down to find them? |
| 00:12.41 | NivFreak | and you actually do the right thing with cast bars, so it was worth it |
| 00:12.48 | NivFreak | Shadowed: sadly I think that was it ;P |
| 00:13.03 | Shadowed | I'm kind of tempted to put an OSX Finder type of search into it |
| 00:13.06 | Shadowed | and I might do that still |
| 00:13.18 | NivFreak | well, I still doubt the green user could figure out how to configure SUF |
| 00:13.28 | NivFreak | but they'll be running xperl first I'd imagine anyway |
| 00:13.35 | Ingela | Shadowed, i'd still really would like to see individual frame border insets |
| 00:13.42 | Ingela | you know the top/bot/left/right |
| 00:14.09 | NivFreak | I just wish that IceHUD would improve, I'm using it in place of my main frames now days |
| 00:14.13 | NivFreak | but it's cast bars suck ass |
| 00:14.17 | Ingela | me too |
| 00:14.23 | Shadowed | Green users don't immediately go to unit frames unless they have a friend or someone telling them to, in which case they probably have help |
| 00:14.26 | KriLL3 | use the cast bar from another addon? |
| 00:14.27 | Ingela | don't have self, have icehud! |
| 00:14.29 | KriLL3 | like quartz |
| 00:14.31 | NivFreak | KriLL3: I do |
| 00:14.31 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: is sUF_Grid (or whatever it's called now) less cpu intensive than Grid is? :\ |
| 00:14.42 | NivFreak | KriLL3: I use quartz in fact ;P |
| 00:14.48 | NivFreak | but more shit |
| 00:14.51 | Shadowed | Probably? Dunno |
| 00:15.07 | Shadowed | I haven't really compared them both, but I would assume it is since it's built just to do aura indicators not aggro/etc |
| 00:15.20 | Gnarfoz | for some reason, Grid tops my charts, and my FPS in 25man raids are absurdly low ;X |
| 00:15.25 | NivFreak | my only real complaints with grid are, logging in during combat (which I think got better recently), and the lack of multiple debuff display |
| 00:15.41 | NivFreak | config is odd, but I'm used to it |
| 00:15.54 | Ingela | a good addon cpu finder? |
| 00:15.58 | Gnarfoz | lack of multiple debuff display what? and logging in during combat works fine, it's plugins that keep breaking it |
| 00:15.59 | NivFreak | well I guess a better custom layout editor would be nice too ;) |
| 00:16.26 | Shadowed | @project addon-profiler |
| 00:16.27 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: so that if you have 2 raid debuffs, I can see both of them |
| 00:16.27 | Repo | Shadowed: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/addon-profiler/. Addon Profiler. Game: WoW. Shadowed (Manager/Author). Updated: 94 days ago |
| 00:16.28 | Gnarfoz | let me guess... icon of the debuff = indicator is what you meant? |
| 00:16.42 | NivFreak | icon, corner, whatever |
| 00:16.44 | Ingela | thanks Shadowed |
| 00:17.07 | NivFreak | a place that grid is rough on, is on anub if someone picks up a mandble debuff from the adds in p2, then gets PC |
| 00:17.08 | Gnarfoz | because you can more than easily show multiple debuffs... Grid's indicator system kind of lends itself to that |
| 00:17.10 | NivFreak | you only see the PC |
| 00:17.23 | NivFreak | so I can add a specific indicator for the mandble so I know |
| 00:17.29 | Shadowed | That's mostly the nature of indicators thought |
| 00:17.39 | arkanes | does SuF work on the PTR? |
| 00:17.40 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: you're talking about GSRD, really, not Grid |
| 00:17.50 | arkanes | I like to expiriment there instead of messing with settings on my live characters |
| 00:17.51 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: true, but it's the tool I have ;) |
| 00:17.55 | Gnarfoz | it's not Grid's fault you're using one indicator for it all |
| 00:18.01 | Ingela | arkanes, just save WTF map |
| 00:18.22 | arkanes | Ingela: it's the saved vars too and keeping track of what i want to save is more work than i'm into |
| 00:18.27 | NivFreak | I usually just add a second indicator for the debuff that might overlap and I care about |
| 00:18.29 | Gnarfoz | if GSRD was split up into, say, primary and secondary priority raid debuffs, well... meh |
| 00:18.35 | arkanes | have I succesfully made a theme about how lazy I am yet ? :P |
| 00:18.46 | Ingela | yes arkanes, lazy asshole! |
| 00:18.50 | arkanes | I'm happy with "cleanse if this guy is blue" |
| 00:18.57 | arkanes | thats enough indicator for me |
| 00:19.01 | Gnarfoz | arkanes: heh |
| 00:19.13 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: I guess it's really that I want to have center icons support more than 1 icon |
| 00:19.13 | Gnarfoz | guess what? I heard it's sleep tiems now. |
| 00:19.15 | KriLL3 | what if it's something that backfires if you remove it? |
| 00:19.16 | NivFreak | but that's not quite right |
| 00:19.34 | arkanes | KriLL3: it's true that I spent a lot of time cleansing our arcane mages in 3.1 |
| 00:19.36 | Gnarfoz | well... "center icon" doesn't lend itself to "2 things in 1 place", really :D |
| 00:19.52 | NivFreak | that's sort of my point ;) |
| 00:20.33 | Adremma | Mm... I could see hacking in a second icon status for people with additional icon-based indicators to use it with |
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| 00:21.05 | NivFreak | It might work to have it show the X highest priority debuffs |
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| 00:21.33 | NivFreak | and let people adjust frame width/height to accomidate multiple icons |
| 00:21.47 | Adremma | GSRD already has separate priorities for icon vs. color for its existing status, and the defaults already make use of that |
| 00:23.09 | Shadowed | multiple icons would be interesting |
| 00:23.17 | Shadowed | But it wouldn';t exactly work that well unless you had a large indicator |
| 00:23.44 | NivFreak | I could deal with half sized icons for most fight |
| 00:23.44 | NivFreak | s |
| 00:23.56 | NivFreak | faction champs might be the only one that would be funky w/ UA |
| 00:24.01 | Adremma | For instance, on Lord Jaraxxus, the default icon priority for Incinerate Flesh is 8, but the default color priority is 10--if you have it hooked to both center icon and a corner indicator, it should always give you your red square when appropriate |
| 00:24.35 | NivFreak | I never use red, that's aggro! :) |
| 00:24.50 | Adremma | well, then set it to something else, I'm just talking defaults |
| 00:25.05 | NivFreak | whoever added frost patch to GSRD really confused me for a minute, I was wondering why we had a bunch of people MS'd on anub |
| 00:25.18 | NivFreak | since it's my MS indicator ;) |
| 00:25.49 | Adremma | I wasn't aware it attempted to detect frost patch |
| 00:26.03 | NivFreak | I assume it's GSRD, I certainly didn't do it by hand |
| 00:26.26 | Adremma | are you, by any chance, using the debuff detector? |
| 00:26.40 | NivFreak | uh, I'm not even sure what that is |
| 00:26.42 | Adremma | option is "Detect new debuff" |
| 00:26.50 | NivFreak | is it on by default? |
| 00:26.55 | Adremma | no |
| 00:26.59 | NivFreak | then probably not :P |
| 00:27.04 | NivFreak | I'd have to check at home to be sure |
| 00:27.30 | NivFreak | but I wasn't the only one that had it happen, and it seems strange for it to end up in a corner indicator automatically |
| 00:27.33 | Adremma | basically, for those times when whoever has been slacking in updating GSRD, you can turn it on and it'll automatically add all debuffs it detects cast by non-raid members on raid members |
| 00:27.48 | NivFreak | ah, nice, I usally just add them manually |
| 00:28.21 | Adremma | that said, there's an alpha up for the Lower Spire bosses in ICC, so hopefully it won't be needed for a bit <_< |
| 00:29.17 | NivFreak | hah |
| 00:29.21 | NivFreak | does it store them by spellid or name? |
| 00:29.31 | Adremma | stored by spellid but detected by name |
| 00:29.37 | NivFreak | for 10n/10h/25n/25h cross coverage |
| 00:29.57 | Adremma | for that, and so no translation work needs to be done on the names |
| 00:30.26 | NivFreak | I'll have to try it out tomorrow assuming bibi isn't a big fat liar |
| 00:30.32 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 00:31.04 | NivFreak | we generally just build a debuff list on our forums and have people enter them manually when we get new content |
| 00:31.10 | NivFreak | but that sounds a lot better |
| 00:32.03 | Adremma | well, I don't guarantee it'll be kept up in advance for later bosses in ICC |
| 00:32.28 | Adremma | especially in the case of Arthas, obviously, but in general as well |
| 00:33.12 | Adremma | so I still recommend the use of the detector as appropriate |
| 00:34.13 | Adremma | I should clean up the menu a bit, too, so options like that are a little more visible |
| 00:35.07 | Primer | Is there an event when an addon unloads or exit game is called? |
| 00:35.24 | arkanes | Shadowed: where's the option to change the font? |
| 00:35.36 | Arrowmaster | addons dont unload, but there is a PLAYER_LOGOUT event |
| 00:36.05 | Primer | I just want to catch the event before SavedVariables is written |
| 00:37.54 | Shadowed | It's the option labeled "Font" on the first page :P |
| 00:38.18 | arkanes | oh, I didn't scroll down far enough |
| 00:38.26 | arkanes | sorry |
| 00:38.42 | Shadowed | Scroll bar is my nemesis in SUF |
| 00:38.52 | Shadowed | and I can't make the height more really |
| 00:39.26 | arkanes | its all good |
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| 00:49.43 | Hjalte | Are they removing the drakes from Ulduar achievements in 3.3? |
| 00:50.40 | arkanes | they've said there will be warning at least 1 month in advance before they remove them |
| 00:50.49 | arkanes | so signs point to no |
| 00:51.05 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 00:53.23 | orionshock | eh, we can still init our AceDB3 in the OnInit function right?? |
| 00:55.48 | Shadowed | ... yes |
| 00:59.52 | orionshock | well just validated it, not any more. |
| 01:00.12 | orionshock | VARIABLES_LOADED can fire at any point in time while ADDON_LOADED is going |
| 01:01.15 | orionshock | where it used to fire before any Addon_Loaded |
| 01:01.16 | Yssaril | i thought VL always fired after the initial AL run |
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| 01:03.29 | Yssaril | though i wait till Player Login to do my inits and have no idea when Ace does its |
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| 01:03.33 | orionshock | not sure. I added a testing frame in to print() when VL happened and put in a print() for when my addon's OnInit happened. the OnInit fired then VL did... |
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| 01:19.32 | Arrowmaster | orionshock: no VL fired after ADDON_LOADED |
| 01:20.26 | Arrowmaster | and OnInit is ADDON_LOADED, OnEnable is PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 01:23.49 | Ingela | quick question: to hide what's in a "input" option, what do i do.. make a button and then db.thing = nil or what |
| 01:33.45 | orionshock | Ingela: ? |
| 01:34.07 | Ingela | nvm orionshock |
| 01:34.14 | Ingela | solved it in another way lol |
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| 02:06.28 | Ingela | Greetings! |
| 02:06.28 | Ingela | We are performing our weekly scheduled maintenance this morning, beginning at 1:00 AM PST on 12/08/2009. No realms will be available for play approximately between the hours of 1:00 AM and 11:00 AM PST. |
| 02:06.28 | Ingela | Thank you for your patience. |
| 02:06.30 | Ingela | hmmmmmm |
| 02:07.07 | KriLL3 | nothing about a patch? though a downtime that long kinda hints at it |
| 02:07.22 | ajmitch | they never announce a patch |
| 02:07.27 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 02:07.32 | Ingela | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21626384170&sid=1 |
| 02:07.44 | ajmitch | s/never/very rarely/ |
| 02:08.15 | ajmitch | I think one of the recent patches had a semi-announcement in the EU launcher alert |
| 02:08.27 | KriLL3 | ajmitch: it's all smoke and mirrors? is it patch day or isn't it? no body knows, perhaps they throw a d20 in the conference hall to decide |
| 02:08.28 | Ingela | but that has patch time for it doesn't it |
| 02:08.51 | ajmitch | KriLL3: more along the lines of whether they have to roll back on the day |
| 02:09.16 | haste | steev: What version of oUF? What is the error? |
| 02:09.25 | Yssaril | Ingela: they can say anything for done time when they patch it usually takes longer anyways no matter what they say |
| 02:09.32 | haste | steev: I _don't_ have a DK, so the rune stuff is pretty much untested |
| 02:09.48 | arkanes | PTRs are (still) up |
| 02:09.51 | KriLL3 | haste: you don't have a character over level 55? |
| 02:10.02 | Ingela | yeah yeah Yssaril but it's not like they went "ok 1hour we're checking everything is ok maintencene" |
| 02:10.06 | ajmitch | doesn't care much either day |
| 02:10.34 | arkanes | it's not unheard of for them to start to deploy the patch, run into trouble, and then roll it back too |
| 02:10.47 | arkanes | so they never say in advance |
| 02:10.53 | Yssaril | Ingela: could also be hey lets get check everything this week to make sure nothing happens next week |
| 02:11.01 | Ingela | yeap i guess |
| 02:11.01 | Ingela | :D |
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| 02:11.14 | haste | KriLL3: I don't have a DK with death runes, which requires more than L55 alone |
| 02:11.25 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 02:11.49 | KriLL3 | arkanes: silence hits at a hidden wisdom, retractions show failure |
| 02:14.00 | Belazor | Are we quoting Konfucious now? |
| 02:14.39 | KriLL3 | paraphrasing at best |
| 02:19.13 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v2-34-g228b9e5 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] TOC Bump 30300 |
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| 02:48.16 | Antiarc | NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED |
| 02:48.17 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/rW6m8.jpg |
| 02:49.47 | Stanzilla | lol wtf |
| 02:50.25 | arkanes | needs more bloom |
| 02:51.08 | Shadowed | Antiarc is this your attempt to add lense flare in-game |
| 02:51.11 | Shadowed | or did your graphics card die |
| 02:51.21 | Antiarc | Shadowed: 3rd party DX9 driver |
| 02:51.25 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 02:51.27 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/wOTdo.jpg |
| 02:51.35 | Antiarc | That's with an edge detect shader :V |
| 02:51.44 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkeC9WVVsQ4 |
| 02:51.45 | Antiarc | Err |
| 02:51.51 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/cUUhW.jpg |
| 02:51.55 | arkanes | thats pretty slick |
| 02:52.01 | Antiarc | JAcked up contrast in low-light areas |
| 02:52.06 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/SyuxY.jpg |
| 02:52.13 | Antiarc | And side-by-side, with the driver on the left |
| 02:52.16 | ajmitch | tried that driver before but couldn't get wow to start with it |
| 02:53.10 | Antiarc | I think it depends on your video card |
| 02:53.17 | Antiarc | I'm running a Radeon 4970 |
| 02:53.38 | ajmitch | mine's not too different |
| 02:53.45 | ajmitch | radeon HD 4850 iirc |
| 02:53.51 | ajmitch | the laptop one |
| 02:53.57 | arkanes | that makes me wonder if I could use some of the GL debugging tools in OS X to poke at similar stuff |
| 02:54.11 | ajmitch | hasn't upgraded drivers since buying the laptop anyway |
| 02:54.40 | arkanes | raiding with that edge detect shader could be pretty slick |
| 02:55.03 | ajmitch | raiding with something that highlights the fire for people would help |
| 02:55.07 | Antiarc | I dug out my HLSL shader book |
| 02:55.24 | Antiarc | Because I want to see if I can write night-vision or heatmap shaders |
| 02:57.58 | Megalon | yea nightvision |
| 02:58.09 | Megalon | stalking nightelfs |
| 02:59.43 | Megalon | on that bombshell i'll say: cya! |
| 03:08.54 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/fjUJU.jpg |
| 03:08.56 | Antiarc | yesssssssss |
| 03:22.35 | Repo | 10misspelled: 03nrpieper * r46 / (2 files in 1 directory): TOC bump for patch 3.3 |
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| 03:39.10 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: are you going to be the cause of yet another wow change? |
| 03:39.27 | Antiarc | Heh, I doubt it, this is a third party DX9 driver :P |
| 03:39.35 | Antiarc | Unless they decide to make WoW prettier |
| 03:39.38 | Antiarc | Which would be awesome |
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| 03:40.03 | quiescens | in all probability changes like that can probably be declared to be a violation of some existing clause of the tos anyway |
| 03:40.34 | Arrowmaster | well thats exactly how original fps wallhacks were created |
| 03:43.53 | Cairenn | Reminder guys - if your mods are 3.3 compliant, please mark 'em as such on the different sites, so I can make sure the survival guide is accurate :) |
| 03:47.46 | Fisker | all my mods are 3.3 compliant |
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| 04:07.55 | arkanes | hmm bartender needs patches for 3.3 |
| 04:09.29 | Fisker | nooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 04:20.14 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 04v3 * 741b6f3 /: [new tag] Tagging as v3, god speed. |
| 04:22.58 | Repo | 10speedyactions: 03Shadowed 07master * 1.6-release-3-g275c638 SpeedyActions.toc: [+1 commit] TOC bump |
| 04:23.10 | Repo | 10speedyactions: 03Shadowed 041.7-release * 1017b9b /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.7 release |
| 04:31.31 | Shadowed | Now starts the best time of 3.3 |
| 04:31.34 | Shadowed | prayer |
| 04:31.43 | Shadowed | followed by frantic bug fixes |
| 04:34.43 | Fisker | slaps Shadowed around a bit with a large trout |
| 04:34.44 | Fisker | or slaps |
| 04:34.45 | Fisker | bam! |
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| 04:43.57 | KriLL3 | has 3.3 been officially officialated? or is it just unofficially official? |
| 04:46.39 | Fisker | 11 hours maintanence!1 |
| 04:47.12 | Fisker | aww |
| 04:47.17 | Fisker | why do mobs die in 2 hits? :( |
| 04:47.17 | KriLL3 | well if it all goes to hell in a handbasket they'll pretend they were doing something other than force feeding their servers 3.3 while doing voodoo rights to make it work |
| 04:47.40 | Repo | 10pyritestacks: 03electronicpunk * r10 PyriteStacks.toc: TOC Updated |
| 04:47.52 | KriLL3 | Fisker: stop hitting critters |
| 04:48.22 | KriLL3 | they're decoration, not target practice |
| 04:49.31 | Fisker | imma crittin' cult of the damned npcs |
| 04:49.49 | arkanes | critter kills is the only statistic that matters |
| 04:51.08 | arkanes | Creatures killed: 161466 |
| 04:51.32 | arkanes | oops, wrong one :( |
| 04:51.34 | KriLL3 | Fisker: they got like 10k hp |
| 04:51.44 | arkanes | Critters killed: 7380 |
| 04:57.35 | steev | haste: actually, im not sure its oUF that is at fault - i noticed the error message actually says oUF_Runebar |
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| 05:00.14 | steev | haste: http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/runeerror.jpg |
| 05:01.23 | steev | 3 hours on Freya+3, and the closest we got was almost getting past the 6th wave |
| 05:01.56 | arkanes | freyas rough |
| 05:02.05 | arkanes | I've done +3 twice and I'm never going to do it again |
| 05:02.25 | WobWork | hm |
| 05:02.30 | WobWork | do your critter kills increase |
| 05:02.36 | WobWork | if one of your minipets kill one? |
| 05:02.42 | arkanes | no idea |
| 05:02.45 | arkanes | probably not |
| 05:03.01 | WobWork | fail =( |
| 05:06.42 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/companionwheel/. Companion Wheel. Multiplyx (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
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| 05:07.48 | Ingela | wow Antiarc that really looks awesome |
| 05:07.53 | Ingela | i was like wtf is that wow on the first pic |
| 05:08.28 | arkanes | steev: looking at the code of oUF_RuneBar, it should work |
| 05:08.30 | WobWork | "- Is a feature-rich wheel menu, as seen in other applications." |
| 05:08.32 | Fisker | what does Ingela ? |
| 05:08.36 | WobWork | "Â Â - This addon is still in the brainstorm phase, and the actual library for the wheel is still in development." |
| 05:08.46 | Ingela | <Antiarc> NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED |
| 05:08.46 | Ingela | <Antiarc> http://i.imgur.com/rW6m8.jpg |
| 05:08.46 | arkanes | steev: did you change the color settings for the runes? |
| 05:08.50 | Ingela | there Fisker |
| 05:08.52 | WobWork | this wheel menu is from an undeveloped library seen in other addons? |
| 05:09.11 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1159 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Fixed error in Aura.lua on live |
| 05:09.15 | arkanes | note that it says "applications" |
| 05:09.41 | arkanes | I'm guessing it's a radial menu? |
| 05:09.48 | WobWork | like Opie? |
| 05:11.15 | Fisker | MRPLOW OMG |
| 05:11.23 | Antiarc | Ingela: :) |
| 05:11.45 | Fisker | the speed at which mrplow is repeatedly sorting cloth items makes it sound like farting |
| 05:11.45 | Fisker | :o |
| 05:14.31 | Ingela | Antiarc, what was it that did it did you say? |
| 05:14.42 | Ingela | and also, how much does it stress your graphic card |
| 05:15.13 | Antiarc | It's a third-party DX9 driver that adds an HLSL post-processing shader |
| 05:15.18 | Antiarc | No performance hit |
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| 05:17.28 | KriLL3 | who do blood elf males cry like 14 year old girls? and dress + do their hair like one? |
| 05:17.44 | Ingela | Antiarc, do you have any link or so? a name maybe? i'd like to try it out =) |
| 05:18.28 | steev | arkanes: no, no changing of the colors - it just happens when i have a death rune and i hearth/enter an instance (any kind of loading screen) |
| 05:19.11 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/driver.zip |
| 05:19.14 | Antiarc | Unzip into your wow dir |
| 05:19.59 | Ingela | thanks man =) |
| 05:26.39 | Ingela | wow Antiarc very very nice |
| 05:26.48 | Ingela | can i change the settings in any way |
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| 05:27.01 | Antiarc | Edit the ini file |
| 05:27.05 | Antiarc | Then /console gxrestart |
| 05:27.38 | Antiarc | http://enbseries.gtamaps.net/doc_en.htm |
| 05:28.22 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r696 / (10 files in 10 directories): TOC Bump to 3.3 |
| 05:29.06 | arkanes | steev: well the error is because it's trying to look up the color of the death run, and it's not being found |
| 05:29.27 | arkanes | steev: hmm possibly at the time it's doing the check, the GetRuneType is returning nil |
| 05:31.46 | steev | arkanes: i read something about oUF handles the runes now instead of oUF_Runebar |
| 05:33.01 | arkanes | steev: well the error you're getting is certainly from oUF_Runebar |
| 05:33.30 | steev | arkanes: right - what i mean is - is it a drop out replacement (just remove the check for oUF_Runebar being loaded) - do you know? |
| 05:33.55 | arkanes | if you want to see about oufs built in support, just disable the oaf_runbar addon |
| 05:34.33 | steev | arkanes: well, im trying to figure out where that happens |
| 05:34.51 | arkanes | steev: at the login screen, click addons and then uncheck oaf_runebar |
| 05:35.05 | steev | no - i meant, in ouf.lua - i don't see anything about runes |
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| 05:35.50 | arkanes | well maybe its not there :p |
| 05:36.33 | steev | wish meh luck |
| 05:38.00 | steev | hm, wtf was this guy smoking |
| 05:38.52 | Groktar | polar air mass steev |
| 05:39.09 | steev | definitely something |
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| 05:45.29 | steev | arkanes: actually you know what - it looks like this interface does change them |
| 05:45.44 | Torhal | WobWork: Shit like that is why I love the Experimental tag. |
| 05:46.27 | WobWork | Torhal: in what way? |
| 05:46.30 | steev | arkanes: should i just take that out? (i should have realized it) - the interface i'm using does white for death runes instead of purple |
| 05:48.18 | Torhal | WobWork: It doesn't propogate until it's taken out of experimental. At that point I can ask for a better description, or if it doesn't reach that point no harm is done. |
| 05:49.49 | arkanes | steev: just disabling ouf_runebar sounds like a perfectly good idea then |
| 05:49.53 | arkanes | or even deleting it |
| 05:50.00 | steev | arkanes: why? |
| 05:50.06 | steev | ouf doesn't (seem) to do runes |
| 05:50.36 | arkanes | steev: well you've got something that does? |
| 05:50.48 | steev | ... ouf_runebar :) |
| 05:50.58 | arkanes | but thats broken |
| 05:51.02 | arkanes | do you know lua at all? |
| 05:51.19 | steev | very little |
| 05:51.56 | steev | i bet if i got rid of the custom colors it would be fine |
| 05:51.59 | arkanes | the way to fix it will be to turn that line 47 into 2 lines, and check that the return of self.colors[GetRuneType(index)] is not nil before unpacking |
| 05:52.35 | Repo | 10goblinvendorfilter: 03yssaril 07master * 0.2.0b-1-g03134d6 / (8 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] bunch of changes |
| 05:55.16 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6833 Citadel/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
| 05:58.36 | Yssaril | Torhal: have you tried the latest versions of GoblinVendorFilter? |
| 05:59.03 | Yssaril | beta version |
| 06:02.10 | Torhal | Yssaril: Just did. It's coming along...found a bug though - you can scroll down WAY past what's available, and it gives an error about the merchant index |
| 06:02.37 | Torhal | I would have grabbed/ticketed it but I only woke up long enough to eat...going to pass out again |
| 06:02.43 | Yssaril | Torhal: you mean using Gnomish vendor shrinker? |
| 06:02.51 | Torhal | Yssaril: Yah |
| 06:03.26 | Torhal | Ok, back to sleep for me. |
| 06:03.32 | Yssaril | tekkub: doesnt update the scrollbar/range on merchant_update already put in a ticket for it |
| 06:03.51 | Torhal | Ah, ok. Weird that I just found it. |
| 06:05.04 | Yssaril | about the index error that shouldnt happen if it does again send me a stacktrace :) |
| 06:12.16 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Looks like you're wrong :) |
| 06:12.44 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Confirmations going up that 3.3 is today/tomorrow. |
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| 06:15.43 | haste | steev: yes, yuo arn't using the internal runebar in ouf |
| 06:16.11 | Yssaril | asmodai: where is this confirmation? |
| 06:16.29 | asmodai | Yssaril: wow.com |
| 06:16.44 | asmodai | plus, US maintenance lasts 10-11 hours |
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| 06:18.39 | asmodai | If I have an issue with the bank frame after installing Combuctor, it's probably Bagnon that causes that and not Combuctor, right? |
| 06:18.48 | Yssaril | asmodai: still nothing official so assuming they are patching somthing could go wrong and delayed till next week |
| 06:19.10 | asmodai | Probably. |
| 06:19.33 | asmodai | then again |
| 06:19.38 | asmodai | looking at mmo-champ |
| 06:19.52 | asmodai | Bibi's not usually wrong :D |
| 06:19.54 | Shadowed | MMOC, WoW, WoWI |
| 06:19.58 | Shadowed | all seem to imply it's tonight |
| 06:20.03 | Yssaril | still extended maintenance and no (no patch tommorow blue post) points towards patchday |
| 06:20.16 | Bibi | MMOC was first. |
| 06:20.17 | Bibi | :( |
| 06:20.24 | Bibi | then everybody's source confirmed. |
| 06:20.25 | asmodai | ~bibi++ |
| 06:20.28 | Bibi | :( |
| 06:20.57 | Fisker | yeah Bibi |
| 06:20.59 | Fisker | i like how that works |
| 06:20.59 | Yssaril | everyonce source is MMOC and they are taking a wild guess? |
| 06:20.59 | asmodai | wtf Haris Pilton now sells a new 24-slot bag! She has stubbornly decided to remain in Shattrath City, so those interested should seek her out there. |
| 06:21.19 | Yssaril | asmodai: yep she sells a black hole i belive |
| 06:21.20 | asmodai | mmoc is Bibi :D |
| 06:21.29 | Fisker | "We've gotten confirmation from our sources that patch 3.3 is set to go live tomorrow. We should be seeing the downloader get the rest of the files after the downtime begins (which hasn't been announced yet). There are no new patch notes just yet, however those should be coming shortly." |
| 06:21.30 | Fisker | lolol |
| 06:21.49 | asmodai | lols at Fisker |
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| 06:22.17 | Yssaril | slaps Fisker with a large trout. |
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| 06:23.10 | asmodai | calls PETA, again |
| 06:23.45 | KriLL3 | PETA doesn't care about fish, they're vegetarians... =P |
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| 06:24.00 | asmodai | I still find that so stupid of vegetarians btw |
| 06:24.05 | asmodai | As if fish can't feel. |
| 06:24.10 | Yssaril | Private Equestrian Termination Association? |
| 06:24.13 | KriLL3 | love that, "I'm a vegetarian, I don't eat meat" *gobbles down some sushi* |
| 06:24.35 | asmodai | So hypocritical. |
| 06:24.36 | KriLL3 | asmodai: well they're not cute and fluffy |
| 06:24.47 | asmodai | KriLL3: Hahaha, reminds me of Denis Leary's sketch. |
| 06:24.47 | KriLL3 | they're cold, and have lifeless eyes |
| 06:25.24 | asmodai | And I know what it's about. "I don't want to eat the meat because I love the animals. I love the animals." Hey, I love the animals too. I love my doggy. He's so cute. My fluffy little dog.. He's so cute- There's the problem. |
| 06:25.33 | asmodai | We only want to save the cute animals, don't we? Yeah. Why don't we just have animal auditions. Line 'em up one by one and interview them individually. "What are you?" "I'm an otter." "And what do you do?" "I swim around on my back and do cute little human things with my hands." "You're free to go." |
| 06:25.49 | asmodai | "And what are you?" "I'm a cow." "Get in the fucking truck, ok pal!" "But I'm an animal." "You're a baseball glove! Get on that truck!" "I'm an animal, I have rights!" "Yeah, here's yer fucking cousin, get on the fucking truck, pal!" |
| 06:25.54 | Fisker | anyways Bibi anything definite yet? |
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| 06:27.41 | quiescens | there's a 10 hour maintenance window scheduled for what its worth |
| 06:29.18 | KriLL3 | but as said, if the patch fights too much during installation they'll have to cancel |
| 06:29.38 | KriLL3 | roll back to the older version and postpone it |
| 06:30.52 | Bibi | it never happened |
| 06:30.56 | Bibi | and I doubt it could happen to be honest |
| 06:31.21 | Bibi | I don't think you can just do a rollback on all the WoW servers |
| 06:31.26 | arkanes | its happened before |
| 06:31.46 | Bibi | when? |
| 06:32.07 | arkanes | I'm trying to remember which patch :\ |
| 06:32.17 | arkanes | had like 20 hours of downtime as they rolled it back |
| 06:32.28 | asmodai | Shadowed: wow, nice, v3 already :) |
| 06:33.31 | arkanes | they made the call before they put the downloader up, of course |
| 06:33.41 | arkanes | I imagine that once they've got the downloader running there's no turning back |
| 06:35.46 | asmodai | SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0-90216:157: First argument of handler() must be a string, was a nil |
| 06:35.49 | asmodai | SpecialEvents-Loot-1.0-90216:210: in main chunk |
| 06:36.05 | asmodai | Wonder where that's from |
| 06:36.36 | asmodai | Ah, lib of XLoot |
| 06:42.58 | arkanes | Bibi: one of your ads is misplaced :( |
| 06:43.43 | Bibi | arkanes : using Firefox ? |
| 06:43.45 | WobWork | They can probably roll back server patches |
| 06:43.50 | arkanes | Bibi: Safari |
| 06:43.51 | WobWork | just not ones that involve client patching |
| 06:43.53 | Bibi | fuck you. |
| 06:43.56 | arkanes | :( |
| 06:43.58 | Bibi | oh well just screenshot then |
| 06:44.40 | Killmore | Bibi: samething with Chrome :( |
| 06:45.03 | arkanes | I don't see the same ad under firefox so I dont know if its an issue there |
| 06:45.07 | Bibi | if nobody screenshots, or better gives me the URL of the ad (and I mean the url of the .swf file) |
| 06:45.10 | Bibi | it will never be fixed |
| 06:45.11 | asmodai | misplaced? |
| 06:45.12 | arkanes | its the Bing one under the MLG voice one |
| 06:45.21 | arkanes | screenshotting now |
| 06:45.22 | KriLL3 | heh some addons in the client have 3.3 TOC:ed versions out |
| 06:45.26 | WobWork | goddamn bing |
| 06:45.33 | asmodai | KriLL3: yeah, saw that |
| 06:45.35 | Shadowed | I am lazy |
| 06:45.41 | Shadowed | and might as well toc them now |
| 06:45.41 | WobWork | I mean, does anyone actually use Bing to google anything? =P |
| 06:45.51 | KriLL3 | WobWork: lol |
| 06:45.52 | Bibi | I hope not |
| 06:45.59 | Bibi | if people started using Bing, they'd stop paying for ads. |
| 06:46.03 | KriLL3 | I tried it, gave me really odd results on obvious stuff |
| 06:47.57 | arkanes | Bibi: http://imgur.com/J4UjX.png |
| 06:48.53 | asmodai | I love people leaving debugging code in their addon |
| 06:49.44 | WobWork | asmodai: I do it all the time |
| 06:50.05 | asmodai | WobWork: and leave it printing by default? :) |
| 06:50.23 | WobWork | absolutely! |
| 06:50.27 | KriLL3 | arkanes: weird, I don't see an ad there, oh wait |
| 06:50.40 | WobWork | in fact, I have debugging code in mrplow right as we speak =P |
| 06:50.47 | asmodai | WobWork: weirdo |
| 06:50.48 | asmodai | :P |
| 06:50.48 | KriLL3 | he does |
| 06:50.56 | KriLL3 | I can attest to that |
| 06:50.58 | WobWork | I just give people a table full of itemids to insert into the file |
| 06:51.11 | WobWork | and it'll start printing out comparisons =P |
| 06:51.19 | WobWork | it helps when trying to debug sorting loops |
| 06:51.23 | arkanes | I try to turn off all my debug printing before I release something |
| 06:51.26 | WobWork | as I don't have every single item in the game to test with |
| 06:51.26 | arkanes | occasionaly I miss one |
| 06:51.40 | KriLL3 | WobWork: ask blizz for one of every item |
| 06:51.46 | arkanes | not that I've actually released anything in ages anyway :P |
| 06:51.50 | WobWork | KriLL3: that'd be awesome |
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| 06:52.08 | arkanes | I feel like I should be kind of offended that Bing thinks I want to look at singers falling off stages |
| 06:52.11 | WobWork | "Someone said their Martin Fury doesn't sort properly... can I have one to test with?" |
| 06:52.19 | arkanes | they don't have anything better to show off their search engine with? |
| 06:54.08 | asmodai | arkanes: 'parently not |
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| 06:55.45 | arkanes | holy crap, clicking on it loads a page with 20 video clips on it, all of which start playing at the same time |
| 06:56.00 | WobWork | YOU ASKED FOR VIDEOS, HERE ARE VIDEOS |
| 06:57.40 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r157 / (2 files in 1 directory): Bump TOC version for Patch 3.3. |
| 06:57.42 | Repo | Bump AL version to 1.5.2. |
| 06:58.41 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg 04v1.5.2 * r158 : Tagging as v1.5.2 |
| 06:58.43 | Repo | Changes: |
| 06:58.44 | Repo | - Bumped TOC version number for Patch 3.3 |
| 07:00.14 | KriLL3 | if I update an addon to the 3.3 toc version one does it still work with 3.2? or does wow think there is time travel involved, and since your safety isn't guaranteed when it comes to time travel does it freak out? |
| 07:00.55 | Yssaril | i think it treats it as a "Outdated" addon since the toc doesnt match |
| 07:01.15 | arkanes | no, it'll load a futured toc normally |
| 07:01.36 | KriLL3 | arkanes: why doesn't people set the TOC to something silly high to never need update it again? |
| 07:01.46 | arkanes | KriLL3: because they don't hate their users |
| 07:01.53 | KriLL3 | or does that cause mullets? |
| 07:02.03 | arkanes | versioning is for a reason |
| 07:02.05 | KriLL3 | arkanes: you sure? I think some add |
| 07:02.06 | Yssaril | KriLL3: cause that defeats the purpose of the toc version |
| 07:02.24 | arkanes | some people probably do hate their users, but happily they don't seem to have thought of doing that |
| 07:02.28 | Yssaril | your toc should only be as high as it works with the game |
| 07:02.30 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 07:02.30 | arkanes | I've done it with stuff I was developing locally |
| 07:02.57 | arkanes | I suppose I shouldn't sound so certian though, because the last time I actually did it was during the TBC beta |
| 07:03.01 | KriLL3 | I've seen addons that quite literally break in a pile on the middle of your screen and just sit there going "well YOU installed me!" |
| 07:03.02 | asmodai | Imagine is Fisker wrote addons |
| 07:03.06 | asmodai | s/is/if/ |
| 07:03.51 | KriLL3 | for the people that didn't get the safety and mullet reference: http://timetraveler.ytmnd.com/ |
| 07:04.04 | Yssaril | lol all of the suddon trade would be filled with trout slapping spam |
| 07:05.39 | asmodai | Combuctor's InventoryData.lua: |
| 07:05.47 | asmodai | function InvData:UpdateBank(event) |
| 07:05.47 | asmodai | print('update at bank', (event == 'BANKFRAME_OPENED')) |
| 07:05.47 | asmodai | self.atBank = (event == 'BANKFRAME_OPENED') |
| 07:05.48 | asmodai | end |
| 07:05.50 | asmodai | >_< |
| 07:06.34 | KriLL3 | I got a combuctor error as of late, can't interact with the content of the bank without first switching tab (all, tradegoods etc) |
| 07:06.43 | asmodai | KriLL3: ticket 3 |
| 07:06.51 | asmodai | KriLL3: just created it 30 minutes ago |
| 07:07.12 | KriLL3 | I've had it for a couple of weeks now |
| 07:07.19 | asmodai | Same here |
| 07:07.26 | asmodai | Never annoyed me too much, but no more! |
| 07:07.51 | KriLL3 | btw you can't click items in the bank to get em into your bags either |
| 07:08.02 | asmodai | Yeah, need a focus switch first |
| 07:09.40 | asmodai | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/combuctor/tickets/ |
| 07:09.58 | asmodai | KriLL3: feel free to upvote or whatever is possible. :) |
| 07:11.55 | KriLL3 | done |
| 07:12.08 | KriLL3 | man that site mangles my avatar |
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| 07:57.14 | orionshock | was there a friendly script to automatically pull localisations from the .lua files? |
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| 08:08.39 | Shadowed | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2643/4168803412_62d85d1f83_o.png figuring out how to auto detect UI and where to land is fun :< |
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| 08:19.04 | Grum | Shadowed: hook CreateFrame? :p |
| 08:19.13 | Shadowed | Yea I'll get right on that :P |
| 08:19.27 | Grum | that should be mad btw eheheh |
| 08:19.55 | Grum | hooking createframe, then monitor visibility |
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| 08:54.39 | orionshock | was there a friendly script to automatically pull localisations from the .lua files? |
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| 08:55.07 | asmodai | mmm |
| 08:56.09 | asmodai | armory was pretty amazing, logged out last night on one toon, fired up this armory app on the Android mobile and reloaded the profile and it was already synched |
| 08:56.20 | asmodai | level, gear, the works |
| 08:56.36 | asmodai | So either Blizzard has been making the armory sync rate faster or I got incredibly lucky |
| 09:01.15 | Bribri | in my experience armory has updated on logout for a long time |
| 09:01.27 | Bribri | relatively quickly |
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| 09:08.02 | Repo | 10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3-1-gf8f35ce modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fixed frames jumping when dragging if UI Scale is disabled |
| 09:08.48 | theoddone33 | I added up all our attempts |
| 09:08.59 | theoddone33 | we finally killed 25h anub one our 245th attempt |
| 09:09.00 | quiescens | grats |
| 09:09.18 | theoddone33 | they put vent info in the video |
| 09:09.26 | quiescens | good work |
| 09:09.32 | theoddone33 | when he's at 1% and the whole raid is alive you hear a bunch of people go "thank god" |
| 09:09.39 | theoddone33 | because we've spent so long on it |
| 09:09.55 | theoddone33 | er vent recording |
| 09:10.18 | orionshock | nmd, found something that works. grep -P "(L\[\".+\"\])" ./*.lua >> locale1.txt |
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| 09:12.50 | jnwhiteh | orionshock: TomTom and Bartender (used to) have a script |
| 09:13.18 | orionshock | :) |
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| 09:16.15 | orionshock | jnwhiteh: do u still have it? or is it still there? |
| 09:16.55 | jnwhiteh | orionshock: yes, its Babelfish.lua |
| 09:16.56 | jnwhiteh | in TomTOm |
| 09:17.08 | jnwhiteh | stupid, simple, does the same as your grep |
| 09:17.09 | jnwhiteh | plus a bit. |
| 09:17.25 | orionshock | thanks, i'm gonna start using it now.. |
| 09:17.28 | jnwhiteh | http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=TomTom&path=/trunk/Babelfish.lua |
| 09:17.32 | jnwhiteh | the Bartender3 version was better |
| 09:17.38 | orionshock | after 2hrs of trying to figure that grep command out.. |
| 09:17.41 | jnwhiteh | and wowace/curseforge localization is (i think) better |
| 09:17.59 | jnwhiteh | the BT version is much better if you can find it. |
| 09:18.02 | jnwhiteh | based on the same thing |
| 09:18.07 | jnwhiteh | heads into the office |
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| 09:19.38 | Killmore | We are beginning the patch process now. ;) |
| 09:20.18 | Killmore | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21627634661&pageNo=1&sid=1#5 |
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| 09:21.23 | theoddone33 | as terrible as this last round of content was I'm sad to see it go |
| 09:21.52 | stolenlegacy | theoddone33: you mean totc? |
| 09:22.01 | theoddone33 | right |
| 09:22.14 | theoddone33 | short and repetitive, 4 times a week |
| 09:22.26 | theoddone33 | but switching tiers is always such a pain |
| 09:26.52 | theoddone33 | wow I'm really angry that the badge trinket is dying curse 2.0 |
| 09:26.59 | theoddone33 | for frost emblems |
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| 09:39.34 | Grum | theoddone33: be happy for it? most tier items lack +hit :) |
| 09:39.49 | theoddone33 | yeah I've had hit problems most of this tier |
| 09:40.28 | theoddone33 | but aside frm the 120 hit that trinket is extremely weak |
| 09:40.38 | theoddone33 | there will be much better stuff in that slot |
| 09:40.48 | theoddone33 | and I need like 220 to cap as arcane w/ shadow priest |
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| 10:21.41 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03mysticalos * r170 LibFail-1.0.toc: Bump toc to 30300 |
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| 10:30.05 | Repo | 10viewporter: 03sztanpet 04v1.4 * 128b45d /: [new tag, +1 commits] Bumping TOC, nothing changed |
| 10:30.40 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03mysticalos * r189 EnsidiaFails.toc: Latest libfail changes & bump toc to 30300. |
| 10:31.22 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6834 / (2 files in 2 directories): koKR Update |
| 10:33.24 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2443 / (10 files in 9 directories): v5.09.00 for Patch 3.3 |
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| 10:42.20 | asmodai | hahaha, love all the TOC bumps |
| 10:43.05 | eidolarr | better than not having them i guess! |
| 10:44.00 | asmodai | May people who post for first post/first page die |
| 10:44.23 | MysticalOS | i wonder how long until curse traffic gets slammed and overloaded |
| 10:45.06 | eidolarr | I never got an answer before, for the new addon name / table feature with the '...' operator, why didn't they just use function calls? |
| 10:45.23 | vhaarr | why would they? |
| 10:45.44 | eidolarr | it doesn't seem like an intuitive use of the operator at all |
| 10:45.47 | MysticalOS | hmm, packager down again? |
| 10:45.53 | vhaarr | it is very intuitive |
| 10:46.15 | eidolarr | in what other context does '...' mean anything like that? |
| 10:46.18 | pompy | MysticalOS: running but erroring >< .. http://www.wowace.com/packager/ |
| 10:46.46 | vhaarr | ... is a tuple of the arguments passed to a function |
| 10:47.31 | vhaarr | so you can have |local f(...) for i=1,select("#",...) do print((select(i,...))) end end; f(1,2,3,4,5,6)|, for example |
| 10:47.40 | asmodai | hands out cookies |
| 10:48.01 | eidolarr | yeah, i just don't see how that extends to the change |
| 10:48.07 | eidolarr | to be clear i'm asking about this: |
| 10:48.10 | eidolarr | When a .lua file is loaded you can now access the name of the AddOn containing it, and an AddOn specific table (essentially an AddOn variable scope) by assigning them from ...: |
| 10:48.13 | eidolarr | local addonName, addonTable = ...; |
| 10:48.16 | eidolarr | The same table is sent to every file in a particular AddOn (each AddOn gets its own table). |
| 10:49.13 | vhaarr | note that you can also do things like |if true then return end| at the top of a lua file to prevent execution of it |
| 10:49.44 | vhaarr | each file is executed as a function, previously they didn't pass any arguments to it, but now they do |
| 10:50.20 | MysticalOS | grr, blizz needs to post patch so i can download it before mad rush. |
| 10:51.15 | eidolarr | but if it was a function call, you could make nested calls in functions taking anonymous arguments, and i've never heard of that use of ... in Lua |
| 10:52.08 | eidolarr | it's a minor thing, it just seems like a bizarre way of doing it |
| 10:52.50 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r62 Bison.toc: created toc |
| 10:52.58 | Repo | 10libsnowflake-2-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r34 Snowflake-2.0.toc: created toc |
| 10:53.08 | Repo | 10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r98 Splitter.toc: created toc |
| 10:54.13 | Torhal | asmodai: Denis Leary |
| 10:54.24 | vhaarr | I don't see any problems with doing nested calls with anonymous arguments |
| 10:55.14 | asmodai | Torhal: What about him? |
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| 10:56.38 | eidolarr | say you had like, function AddonPrintf(s, ...) print(("%s: " .. (s:format(...))):format(GetAddonName())) end |
| 10:56.41 | Grum | function myprint (...) print( "OHAIMYPRINT", ... ) end |
| 10:57.07 | eidolarr | to do like, "QuestHelper: printing stuff!!" |
| 10:57.32 | Torhal | asmodai: Your cow quote earlier. |
| 10:58.06 | vhaarr | what cow quote, "carve off what I want and ride the rest on"? |
| 10:58.21 | eidolarr | you couldn't reproduce that behavior with the current structure, or maybe even more cavalier things like calling another addon's functions |
| 10:58.28 | Torhal | "Get on the fucking truck, pal!" |
| 10:58.28 | vhaarr | hehe |
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| 10:59.13 | vhaarr | perhaps it's too early in the morning but I don't understand the problem, eidolarr |
| 10:59.35 | eidolarr | like, say I want a function in a library to print out the calling addon's name |
| 11:00.07 | eidolarr | in order to do that I need access to the global ..., which means I can't use variable arguments in the function's prototype |
| 11:00.30 | vhaarr | "global ..."? |
| 11:00.31 | sztanpet | wtf |
| 11:00.54 | vhaarr | there's no global ... |
| 11:01.03 | eidolarr | right now the way to get addon name would be |addonName = ...| at the file scope |
| 11:01.10 | sztanpet | you meaning to use ... as an upvalue? |
| 11:01.13 | eidolarr | yeah |
| 11:01.26 | sztanpet | ah, you dont |
| 11:01.41 | eidolarr | you can't in a function? |
| 11:01.43 | vhaarr | |local x = {...}| will upvalue it |
| 11:01.55 | eidolarr | err I'm sorry |
| 11:01.59 | vhaarr | then you can pass it on like function(unpack(x)) |
| 11:02.03 | eidolarr | I just meant extracting the addon name |
| 11:02.07 | vhaarr | from what? |
| 11:02.11 | vhaarr | there's no global tuple |
| 11:02.11 | eidolarr | here's a more basic question |
| 11:02.29 | eidolarr | I thought that, as of 3.3, you can say |addonName, addonScope = ...| |
| 11:02.39 | vhaarr | yes in the file scope |
| 11:02.48 | eidolarr | oh |
| 11:02.58 | vhaarr | you can obviously put those variables in the global scope if you want |
| 11:03.11 | vhaarr | |_G.addonName = ...| at the top |
| 11:03.27 | vhaarr | but I dunno why you would do that |
| 11:03.30 | eidolarr | so if I say |function printname () local addonName = ...; print(addonName); end| |
| 11:03.33 | eidolarr | does that not work? |
| 11:03.37 | vhaarr | it does not |
| 11:03.43 | eidolarr | ahh |
| 11:04.13 | eidolarr | rats |
| 11:04.33 | eidolarr | that's weird, I will have to play with it |
| 11:04.37 | eidolarr | thanks for the help |
| 11:04.41 | vhaarr | you can imagine that every file is wrapped in this: |local function execute(addonName, addonTable) fileContents end| |
| 11:04.59 | vhaarr | or, "execute(...)", really |
| 11:05.20 | vhaarr | ... doesn't work unless it's declared |
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| 11:06.35 | eidolarr | so one more time, this doesn't work? |
| 11:06.42 | eidolarr | local function execute(...) |
| 11:06.42 | eidolarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.42 | eidolarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.42 | eidolarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.42 | eidolarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.44 | eidolarr | end |
| 11:06.54 | vhaarr | it does not |
| 11:07.36 | sztanpet | you cannot upvalue ..., you can pass ... to a table and upvalue that |
| 11:07.37 | vhaarr | unless you happen to always pass in the addon name as the first argument to execute(...), I'm not sure about the scope of ... in anonymous functions like that |
| 11:07.46 | vhaarr | but it's pretty irrelevant, because it's a bad coding practice anyway |
| 11:08.18 | sztanpet | there is a deprecated "args" variable that can be upvalued and it contains what you want |
| 11:08.31 | eidolarr | I see |
| 11:08.32 | vhaarr | that's just for blizzard API, though |
| 11:08.39 | eidolarr | yeah I just tried, indeed there's an error in using ... like that |
| 11:08.42 | sztanpet | yea, dont use that |
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| 11:09.34 | vhaarr | basically ... is just a shortcut for |function execute(a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t)| |
| 11:09.37 | vhaarr | only it goes infinite |
| 11:10.15 | eidolarr | see that's what I thought, but I don't see why a nested function saying |var = a,b,c,d,<etc>| would be invalid |
| 11:10.35 | vhaarr | it won't be |
| 11:10.40 | sztanpet | because ... is special |
| 11:10.42 | eidolarr | but it is for ... |
| 11:10.50 | eidolarr | yeah so i see |
| 11:10.55 | vhaarr | you can pass ... on just like anything else |
| 11:12.12 | eidolarr | is 7 lines too many to paste? |
| 11:12.14 | asmodai | Torhal: yes it is/was :) |
| 11:12.22 | vhaarr | eidolarr: paste.wowace.com |
| 11:13.49 | eidolarr | http://paste.wowace.com/1500/ |
| 11:14.10 | vhaarr | x will just get the first value in the tuple |
| 11:14.27 | eidolarr | yeah, the point of interest is that ... generates an error while abcdefg doesnt |
| 11:14.29 | vhaarr | you need to do local x = {...} |
| 11:14.42 | vhaarr | right, well that was expected anyway |
| 11:15.27 | eidolarr | because you cannot upvalue ... ? |
| 11:16.06 | asmodai | http://wave.google.com/maintenance/index.html |
| 11:16.07 | asmodai | heh |
| 11:16.22 | vhaarr | yes you can, in a table |
| 11:17.27 | eidolarr | ok, it seems i need to spend some quality time with the manual, my understanding of the term 'upvalue' seems to be incomplete |
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| 11:20.33 | asmodai | For those after the split: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/07/adrianne-curry-i-love-to_n_383501.html |
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| 11:33.58 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 11:34.25 | evl | Anyone know if UnitAura with a filter of HELPFUL|PLAYER will work if i'm in a vehicle? |
| 11:34.43 | haste | most likely |
| 11:34.49 | haste | the vehicle is just a pet |
| 11:34.58 | haste | your still _the_ player |
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| 11:37.01 | evl | and a small lua questions, given two for loops, how do I controls which one I break out of, does break always exit the closest loop? |
| 11:37.18 | eidolarr | closest |
| 11:37.19 | jnwhiteh | evl: break always breaks out of the outermost loop, i.e. all the way out. |
| 11:37.30 | evl | 3... 2.. 1... FIGHT! |
| 11:38.01 | eidolarr | top level |
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| 11:38.25 | jnwhiteh | oh, i'm mistaken |
| 11:38.32 | jnwhiteh | apparently |
| 11:38.38 | jnwhiteh | lua> for i = 1, 4 do for j = 1, 4 do print(i,j) if j == 2 then break end end end |
| 11:38.38 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 3, 1, 3, 2, 4, 1, 4, 2 |
| 11:38.41 | eidolarr | yeah innermost |
| 11:38.52 | jnwhiteh | I just assumed with all the bitching people always do about how 'useless' it is and how much they need continue |
| 11:38.55 | jnwhiteh | that it was the other way =) |
| 11:39.02 | eidolarr | wait top level is outermost, dammit |
| 11:39.20 | eidolarr | well two nested for loops is an awkward way to implement continue |
| 11:39.28 | jnwhiteh | truth |
| 11:39.42 | jnwhiteh | !api break |
| 11:39.42 | lua_bot | debugbreak: This is a Blizzard internal function (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/debugbreak) |
| 11:39.46 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
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| 11:40.14 | jnwhiteh | !api 2.4.4 |
| 11:40.14 | lua_bot | Lua Reference Manual: 'Control Structures' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.4.4 |
| 11:40.42 | vhaarr | it's a keyword, not a function |
| 11:40.54 | jnwhiteh | I know that, but the refman search I have should have brought it up |
| 11:41.00 | jnwhiteh | that's all part of !api |
| 11:41.11 | vhaarr | *mr obvious goes to work* |
| 11:41.15 | evl | haste: what about a vehicle buff cast by player such as the shield you get when jousting |
| 11:41.15 | jnwhiteh | lol =) |
| 11:41.16 | stolenlegacy | lua> for i = 1, 4 do for j = 1, 4 do print(i,j) if j == 2 then break 2 end end end |
| 11:41.16 | lua_bot | stolenlegacy: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '2' |
| 11:41.16 | jnwhiteh | <3 vhaarr |
| 11:41.35 | stolenlegacy | lua> for i = 1, 4 do for j = 1, 4 do print(i,j) if j == 2 then break 2; end end end |
| 11:41.36 | lua_bot | stolenlegacy: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '2' |
| 11:41.40 | haste | evl: the shield buff is on the player unit afaik |
| 11:41.46 | stolenlegacy | is luabot sleeping? |
| 11:41.52 | eidolarr | you have a 2 just chillin there |
| 11:41.58 | eidolarr | before the semicolon |
| 11:42.03 | jnwhiteh | no, she's right there, you're just wrong =) |
| 11:42.20 | Kalroth | break 2 could be legal lua syntax! |
| 11:42.32 | Kalroth | like 2 fast 2 furious |
| 11:43.20 | jnwhiteh | A rock version of 'Baby Got Back' just came up on my last.fm station.. what the fuck. |
| 11:43.56 | vhaarr | :p |
| 11:44.00 | stolenlegacy | lua_bot: nice delay |
| 11:44.00 | lua_bot | stolenlegacy: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'delay' |
| 11:45.03 | jnwhiteh | there has been no delay |
| 11:45.08 | jnwhiteh | get a real network connection |
| 11:45.12 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 11:45.43 | steino | or some eyes |
| 11:45.46 | steino | that helps |
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| 12:04.05 | lua_bot | UnitAura: Returns information about buffs/debuffs on a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAura) |
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| 12:22.07 | Caleb|L | ~toc |
| 12:22.08 | purl | The current WoW Interface Number is: 30200 |
| 12:22.19 | Caleb|L | boo |
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| 12:25.22 | jnwhiteh | purl, no toc is The current WoW Interface Number is: 30300 |
| 12:25.23 | purl | okay, jnwhiteh |
| 12:25.43 | jnwhiteh | i'm leaving this netsplit hell for lunch =) |
| 12:26.39 | Kalroth | awww |
| 12:26.44 | Kalroth | bye jn! |
| 12:27.29 | Kalroth | ~toc |
| 12:27.30 | purl | it has been said that toc is The current WoW Interface Number is: 30300 |
| 12:27.36 | Kalroth | hooray |
| 12:27.59 | krka | it's patch day? |
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| 12:28.12 | asmodai | Yes |
| 12:28.27 | Wobin | O.O |
| 12:28.35 | Wobin | "Failed to apply patch. Please try again later" |
| 12:28.42 | Groktar | dude |
| 12:28.44 | Groktar | when i walked out to my car to go to work today |
| 12:28.47 | Groktar | there was ICE on |
| 12:28.50 | Groktar | there was ICE on it |
| 12:28.51 | Groktar | wtf |
| 12:29.01 | Wobin | Groktar, that'll teach you to live in the northern hemisphere |
| 12:29.16 | Groktar | but like |
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| 12:29.40 | Groktar | it's only 36 degrees |
| 12:29.40 | Groktar | :( |
| 12:29.56 | Wobin | It was 36 degrees here today |
| 12:30.00 | Groktar | heh |
| 12:30.06 | Groktar | i of latitude |
| 12:30.10 | Groktar | *i meant |
| 12:30.19 | Groktar | i'm just forgetting entire words here :/ |
| 12:30.31 | Wobin | eh, * covers it all, anyway |
| 12:30.56 | Groktar | good lord, i can't spell "i'm" either |
| 12:31.18 | Wobin | No ice here, though |
| 12:31.20 | Groktar | i was shocked to discover an ice chipper in my glove compartment |
| 12:31.20 | Wobin | no siree |
| 12:31.25 | Wobin | except in my smoothie |
| 12:31.29 | Groktar | i don't remember ever using/buying it |
| 12:31.57 | Wobin | IT'S A TRAP! |
| 12:32.11 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r190 EnsidiaFails.lua: get ready for 3.3 release |
| 12:32.11 | Groktar | ya |
| 12:33.10 | Groktar | ya, part of an evil plot to let me see where i'm going |
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| 12:33.15 | Groktar | patches wildly |
| 12:33.33 | sb|work | meh.. amazon is evil! |
| 12:33.41 | sb|work | they should offer (me) stuff that i can't buy (because my gf would kill me) |
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| 12:36.15 | Groktar | The update was successful |
| 12:36.17 | Groktar | wat up |
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| 12:38.04 | sb|work | http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B002G1Y8RM/ <-- *sigh* :) |
| 12:39.16 | Groktar | oh hey |
| 12:39.20 | Groktar | i didn't see this patch note |
| 12:39.26 | Groktar | no max level on summoning stones |
| 12:39.47 | Groktar | hmm |
| 12:40.14 | eidolarr | I wonder why they bother with a minimum level, then |
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| 12:44.16 | Groktar | idk |
| 12:45.20 | sb|work | idkfa? |
| 12:45.20 | pompy | Wobin: patch applied successfully :) |
| 12:45.27 | Groktar | opens cc |
| 12:45.39 | Groktar | WHAT |
| 12:45.40 | eidolarr | idspispopd |
| 12:45.57 | Groktar | an unknown error has occurred while processing your login request? |
| 12:46.07 | Groktar | threatens curse client with convergefu |
| 12:46.54 | Wobin | pompy, =( |
| 12:47.00 | Groktar | there it goes |
| 12:47.07 | Wobin | I'm manually downloading the background preload now |
| 12:47.10 | pompy | 70% of it was predlded |
| 12:47.19 | pompy | so jus 30% today |
| 12:47.26 | Groktar | hrm |
| 12:47.30 | pompy | took 12 mins |
| 12:47.38 | Groktar | i only had like 12 megs to dl |
| 12:48.17 | Wobin | I didn't have the background download |
| 12:48.17 | pompy | yeah 656 mb was predlded and it was 680 mb total |
| 12:49.36 | pompy | you think the uiscale is gonna be reset? |
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| 13:07.31 | Groktar | pounce |
| 13:09.46 | asmodai | And pounce? |
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| 13:15.36 | mitch0 | patch day today? |
| 13:15.48 | Wobin | tis |
| 13:19.08 | Grum | also tomorrow! |
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| 13:23.25 | Fisker | Wobinman |
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| 13:34.18 | nevcairiel | is google down? i cant reach it, wtf |
| 13:34.50 | Thaoky | works fine for me |
| 13:36.27 | mitch0 | google is never down, silly |
| 13:37.20 | nevcairiel | but everything else works |
| 13:38.47 | nevcairiel | now its back |
| 13:38.48 | nevcairiel | weird :P |
| 13:38.52 | mitch0 | well, I get redirected to the local google server (which sucks, and it didn't happen before) |
| 13:42.21 | pompy | www.blackle.com |
| 13:42.57 | Fisker | your provider is highjacking google nevcairiel |
| 13:44.06 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r898 changelog.txt: Update changelog.txt |
| 13:44.25 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r899 Ace3.toc: Update .toc for 3.3 |
| 13:46.05 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel 04Release-r900 * r900 : Tag as Release-r900 |
| 13:46.44 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 13:50.14 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
| 13:50.15 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 13:50.17 | nevcairiel | that tool |
| 13:51.12 | Elkano | I'll so hate the next few days... will have to fix my stuff for 3.3 but have exams right ahead... :/ |
| 13:51.32 | mitch0 | yay, they did the right thing with the group disenchant thing |
| 13:52.04 | Fisker | what is the right thing? |
| 13:52.37 | mitch0 | do I understand it right that if some select greed, some select DE, only one greed roll is made, and if the winner was DE gets mats, if greed gets the item? |
| 13:53.04 | mitch0 | fisker: like only allowing the option if there is a suitable enchanter in group |
| 13:55.21 | Fisker | duh? |
| 13:55.36 | Fisker | oh man they did the right thing with raids |
| 13:55.46 | Fisker | For example only level 80 characters can join level 80 raid instances |
| 13:55.48 | Fisker | it's a miracle |
| 13:55.59 | mitch0 | fisker: go milk some cows |
| 13:56.00 | mitch0 | :P |
| 13:56.07 | pentium166 | 3.3: not one, but two short-ass raids |
| 13:56.17 | pentium166 | at least in 3.2 you still had ulduar to clear |
| 13:56.40 | Fisker | i would if you ordered a thousand liters of milk |
| 13:57.22 | mitch0 | short question: if I want to expose my addon as a global (for whatever reason), then I shouldn't be conserned much about the new params while loading lua files, right? |
| 13:58.10 | nevcairiel | asmodai: your futile attempts at stopping my tag have failed |
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| 14:05.16 | Repo | 10simple-self-rebuff: 03Stanzilla 04v2.0.4-beta-5 * r214 : Tagging as v2.0.4-beta-5 |
| 14:07.47 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r629 / (15 files in 6 directories): Patch 3.3 compatibility and enhancements |
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| 14:09.19 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Noooooooooooes! |
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| 14:12.40 | koaschten | wow it's silent here. all patching madly? |
| 14:12.56 | asmodai | koaschten: You just joined >_< |
| 14:13.06 | asmodai | backs out nevcairiel's commit |
| 14:13.41 | Veight` | koaschten: No matter how hard you try. Servers still gonna be down another 6 hours. :( |
| 14:13.45 | mitch0 | so, is it about time to start using tagged version of Ace3? :) |
| 14:13.51 | asmodai | mitch0: yes, |
| 14:14.06 | asmodai | T mitch0 B FIXINK YUR ADDONS K THX BYE |
| 14:14.13 | koaschten | hmpf this irc app is annoying |
| 14:14.22 | Veight` | what're you using? |
| 14:14.51 | mitch0 | asmodai: EPARSE |
| 14:15.05 | koaschten | irchon for iPhone |
| 14:15.08 | asmodai | mitch0: Wouldn't that be ENOPARSE to be consistent? |
| 14:15.34 | mitch0 | w/e |
| 14:15.45 | koaschten | i cant Even part channels without deleting the Server |
| 14:16.57 | mitch0 | hohum. I should create a sed script to apdate all Ace3 refs to the "expanded" format |
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| 14:17.27 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 073.3 * /: [deleted] |
| 14:17.38 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.2.3-25-g8981e47 / (10 files in 1 directory): [+23 commits] (19 truncated) |
| 14:17.40 | Repo | 8981e47: Remember the minimized state of the map between sessions. |
| 14:17.41 | Kalroth | noo, not the mapster |
| 14:17.42 | Repo | 4b2ae43: :Raise the InterfaceOptionsFrame instead of messing with the strata. |
| 14:17.43 | Repo | 6533ab8: Hide the Maps control elements (Close Button, Size Button, etc) in "Hide Border" mode unless the mouse is over the frame. |
| 14:17.45 | Repo | c4c1cab: Adjust anchoring and size of the minimized map to be in sync with the blizzard version of it. |
| 14:18.50 | nevcairiel | @describe dimmed-actions |
| 14:18.52 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dimmed-actions/. Dimmed Actions. Dims action buttons of unuseable actions. |
| 14:19.14 | nevcairiel | somehow that guy manages to break the packager |
| 14:20.36 | Repo | 10dimmed-actions: 03Nevcairiel * r6 ChangeLog.txt: |
| 14:20.38 | Repo | Don't have a empty changelog file for manual-changelog, it apparently kills the packager. |
| 14:21.11 | asmodai | Heh |
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| 14:21.32 | asmodai | more work for Kaelten |
| 14:23.26 | nevcairiel | too bad i cant download the 3.3 patch until my new hardware gets here |
| 14:23.36 | nevcairiel | torrents kill my wonky connection completly |
| 14:23.44 | yoshimo | there are webmirrors? |
| 14:23.49 | Wobin | nevcairiel, download http then =) |
| 14:24.28 | mitch0 | @describe libsharedmedia-3-0 |
| 14:24.29 | Repo | mitch0: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsharedmedia-3-0/. LibSharedMedia-3.0. Shared handling of media data (fonts, sounds, textures, ...) between addons. API Documentation |
| 14:24.40 | mitch0 | @project libsharedmedia-3-0 |
| 14:24.45 | Repo | mitch0: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsharedmedia-3-0/. LibSharedMedia-3.0. Game: WoW. Elkano (Manager/Author). Updated: 277 days ago. Tickets: 1/2 |
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| 14:26.32 | nevcairiel | so soem new screenshots of new mapster and uploading to ui pages |
| 14:26.33 | nevcairiel | gets busy |
| 14:28.48 | Elkano | mitch0 :? |
| 14:30.40 | sb|work | nevcairiel: yes, giev :) |
| 14:32.25 | Kalroth | did you get a hot chick to present the new mapster? |
| 14:32.41 | nevcairiel | just Fisker |
| 14:32.50 | mitch0 | elkano: just wondering if LSM gets tagged regularly or not |
| 14:33.00 | Kalroth | :( |
| 14:33.13 | mitch0 | elkano: seems the latest tag is not the latest trunk |
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| 14:34.35 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 041.3.0 * 408db95 /: [new tag] Tag as 1.3.0 |
| 14:34.49 | mitch0 | elkano: just trying to decide if I should use tagged version or trunk. advice? |
| 14:35.37 | Elkano | hmm... would have to diff myself... normaly I do tag I think |
| 14:36.01 | mitch0 | minor changes. LoD in toc, and one additional border |
| 14:36.23 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1160 / (6 files in 2 directories): |
| 14:36.25 | Repo | - Added all remaining unadded buff/debuff icons. Buff options screen is now shiny. |
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| 14:37.57 | Repo | 10range-display: 03mitch0 * r293 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 14:38.00 | Repo | use tagged version of libs, minor version bump, toc bump for 3.3 |
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| 14:42.12 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1161 Data (2 files in 1 directory): - Fixed Dazed to use proper icon in warrior module |
| 14:42.43 | Elkano | if 3.3 brings new usefull textures, I think I'll have to tag again, anyways ;) |
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| 14:43.27 | Grum | i refuse to tocbump .. so lame ;( |
| 14:43.32 | ckknight | how's everyone holding up? |
| 14:43.53 | Grum | no complaints sofar here |
| 14:43.57 | Grum | how much traffic is curse pulling? :D |
| 14:44.03 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.7.2_release * r1162 : Tagging as 1.7.2_release |
| 14:44.13 | ckknight | Grum: not at the office yet |
| 14:44.19 | ckknight | I'll have numbers once I get there |
| 14:45.31 | Grum | how long for the servers are up? my head is too tired to do the translation of EU->US hours ;D |
| 14:45.52 | ckknight | when are they supposed to come up? |
| 14:45.53 | nevcairiel | 5 hours or so |
| 14:45.53 | ckknight | :P |
| 14:45.57 | ckknight | ah, okay |
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| 14:46.23 | nevcairiel | wee mapster done |
| 14:46.25 | nevcairiel | now on to the next |
| 14:46.36 | yoshimo | more important, when will they get stable ? ;) |
| 14:47.23 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 073.3 * /: [deleted] |
| 14:47.35 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.4.1-6-gfb3b048 / (7 files in 2 directories): [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
| 14:47.37 | Repo | fb3b048: Adjust size and alignment of the drag-overlay for the Totem Bar. |
| 14:47.38 | Repo | b5750b2: Updated Blizzard Vehicle UI for 3.3 |
| 14:47.39 | Repo | 811a949: Added a new Vehicle UI visibility condition. |
| 14:47.40 | Repo | aa975e5: Added the new LFD Button to the MicroMenu |
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| 14:49.52 | Repo | 10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 * r100 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 14:49.54 | Repo | pull in LibStub via .pkgmeta, minor version bump, toc bump for 3.3 |
| 14:50.13 | Killmore | Grum: 4h:10m |
| 14:50.24 | nevcairiel | libs that pull in LibStub via .pkgmeta are fail, btw :P |
| 14:50.39 | sb|work | nevcairiel: what did you do with the new map data? (quest info etc.) |
| 14:50.51 | nevcairiel | look at the screenshots |
| 14:50.56 | Fisker | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:51.03 | sb|work | ah, they are already on wowace? okay |
| 14:51.07 | ckknight | hey Fisker |
| 14:51.48 | mitch0 | nev: enable-nolib-creation: false |
| 14:53.47 | p3lim | "Unit frames added for special encounters." whats this? |
| 14:54.02 | Stanzilla | unit frames for special encounters |
| 14:54.18 | p3lim | like boss fights with multiple bosses? |
| 14:54.20 | mitch0 | boss1 boss2 |
| 14:54.21 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 14:54.22 | Repo | 10cooldown-to-go: 03mitch0 * r132 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 14:54.23 | Repo | use tagged version of libs, minor version bump, toc bump for 3.3 |
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| 14:54.24 | p3lim | oh |
| 14:54.26 | Stanzilla | they look like the arena frames |
| 14:54.32 | p3lim | thats neat |
| 14:54.34 | p3lim | own unitID? |
| 14:54.42 | Stanzilla | 15:54:25 · mitch0: boss1 boss2 <- |
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| 14:55.44 | genetik- | are the frames targetable? |
| 14:55.51 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: is 1.3.0 safe on 3.2? |
| 14:55.56 | p3lim | yeah genetik- |
| 14:55.57 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:56.08 | genetik- | that's pretty cool |
| 14:56.14 | nevcairiel | if anyone on 3.2 updates anything today, its their own damn fault imho :P |
| 14:56.18 | KriLL3 | hmm guess I shouldn't update anything until downtime |
| 14:56.34 | p3lim | PTR still up? |
| 14:56.39 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: well I'm one of those "Europeans" you might have heard about |
| 14:56.46 | KriLL3 | patch day is tomorrow |
| 14:57.00 | Stanzilla | p3lim: yes |
| 14:57.08 | KriLL3 | nice of the US to test the patches for us |
| 14:57.12 | p3lim | Yeah I know but I'm EU and my mailbox is filling up with spam about updates |
| 14:58.06 | KriLL3 | are the US realms up yet? |
| 14:58.09 | Starinnia | damn lazy Americans... |
| 14:58.11 | Starinnia | no |
| 14:58.13 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: so am i, but i learned to not update today |
| 14:58.17 | Starinnia | down for another 4 hours or so |
| 14:58.23 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 14:58.44 | Starinnia | plus it has to be extended twice |
| 14:58.50 | KriLL3 | wondering if there will be a proper quest hub at icecrown citadel, on PTR there were just nameless guards |
| 14:58.50 | yoshimo | it will take about one week until every important addon has been updated |
| 14:59.10 | Repo | 10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 * r54 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 14:59.12 | Repo | use tagged version of libs, minor version bump, toc bump for 3.3 |
| 14:59.16 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: won't the majority work just fine though? |
| 14:59.26 | Starinnia | most will be fine |
| 14:59.52 | Starinnia | but people think patches break everything |
| 15:00.18 | KriLL3 | well it does force you to click the "load outdated addons" button |
| 15:00.27 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 044.4.2 * d979086 /: [new tag] Tagging as 4.4.2 |
| 15:00.33 | Starinnia | I think only half of WoW players know about that button |
| 15:00.40 | Starinnia | based on tickets I've gotten in the past |
| 15:00.41 | KriLL3 | less than half |
| 15:01.08 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r87 ComboPointsRedux.toc: -toc update |
| 15:01.51 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r89 / (2 files in 2 directories): -toc update |
| 15:02.28 | yoshimo | KriLL3, most of the time yes load outdated addons works fine |
| 15:03.12 | Starinnia | I hate Blackboard... why do all online school things fail... |
| 15:03.29 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r109 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 15:03.31 | Repo | use tagged version of libs, minor version bump, toc bump for 3.3 |
| 15:05.29 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Funny how some sites say Fermi will be 30 million transistors whereas it's 3000 million |
| 15:06.32 | yoshimo | tranlation problems with mi´llion and billion? |
| 15:06.35 | nevcairiel | 30 million would be really a "few" for a GPU |
| 15:07.13 | nevcairiel | as in, not much :P |
| 15:07.30 | KriLL3 | Fermi will be scary fast, double precision and ECC |
| 15:07.55 | nevcairiel | both are not really helpful for gfx rendering, though |
| 15:08.05 | KriLL3 | well it's good for CUDA etc |
| 15:08.10 | *** join/#wowace Ingela (n=Ingela@90-230-173-174-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 15:08.51 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.5.1-2-gc30a6f7 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 15:08.53 | Repo | c30a6f7: Update .toc for 3.3 |
| 15:08.54 | Repo | 6c96816: Rejuvenation is now 15s on all levels. |
| 15:09.05 | KriLL3 | but yeah, most of their marketing seems aimed at GPU computing more than gaming |
| 15:09.15 | Groktar | i finally saw the hangover |
| 15:09.16 | Groktar | just now |
| 15:09.18 | yoshimo | does this "use your gpu power" work for ati cards as well as nvidia? |
| 15:09.33 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: well with OpenCL etc |
| 15:09.48 | KriLL3 | but Nvidia are far ahead on that front |
| 15:09.59 | KriLL3 | ATi doesn't have anything to rival CUDA currently |
| 15:11.13 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia * r131 / (2 files in 1 directory): -toc update |
| 15:11.20 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 041.5.2 * 863caed /: [new tag] Tag as 1.5.2 |
| 15:11.27 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r138 SimpleMD.toc: -toc update |
| 15:13.15 | asmodai | KriLL3: Some people would say to use DirectCompute |
| 15:13.31 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia 041.2.3 * r90 : Tagging as release 1.2.3 |
| 15:14.23 | nevcairiel | thats like DirectX vs OpenGL all over again |
| 15:14.48 | asmodai | Aye. |
| 15:15.25 | nevcairiel | there done with all my addons |
| 15:15.36 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia 041.0.13 * r88 : Tag as release 1.0.13 |
| 15:16.39 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia 042.1.4 * r132 : Tag as release 2.1.4 |
| 15:18.08 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia 043.1.0 * r139 : Tag as release 3.1.0 |
| 15:20.05 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: the packager broke? |
| 15:20.21 | steev | Bibi is the man, he totally called the patch today |
| 15:20.26 | asmodai | Kaelten: that's what he said, according to an empty changelog |
| 15:20.40 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: it kept choking on this one addon, but didnt fail |
| 15:20.50 | Kaelten | weird... |
| 15:20.58 | nevcairiel | http://paste.wowace.com/1501/ |
| 15:21.00 | nevcairiel | thats the error |
| 15:21.09 | nevcairiel | had a manual-changelog specified with an empty file |
| 15:21.15 | nevcairiel | apparently it didnt like that |
| 15:21.30 | Kaelten | cute |
| 15:21.38 | nevcairiel | i added some stuff in the empty file and it felt better |
| 15:21.43 | Kaelten | thanks man |
| 15:21.45 | Repo | 10sifter: 03Starinnia * r17 / (2 files in 1 directory): -toc update |
| 15:22.11 | Repo | 10killguildgreet: 03Starinnia * r13 KillGuildGreet.toc: -toc update |
| 15:22.39 | Kaelten | man the files are coming in today |
| 15:22.50 | Kaelten | had 55 files when I checked the queue this morning |
| 15:23.39 | Grum | files? what kind of files? :D |
| 15:24.22 | Kaelten | zips |
| 15:24.26 | Kaelten | uploaded to curseforge |
| 15:24.42 | Kaelten | anyone know of a virus scanning website that has an api |
| 15:24.47 | yoshimo | how is curse keeping up with the bandwith this patchday? |
| 15:25.49 | Kaelten | we have 6 gige links total I think |
| 15:26.00 | Repo | 10killguildgreet: 03Starinnia 041.0.1 * r14 : Tag as release 1.0.1 |
| 15:26.17 | asmodai | Kaelten: mmm, not an API but http://virusscan.jotti.org/ allows checking against a bunch of scanners |
| 15:26.24 | Repo | 10sifter: 03Starinnia 041.1.2 * r18 : Tag as release 1.1.2 |
| 15:26.34 | Kaelten | asmodai: ya several of those sites. |
| 15:26.35 | yoshimo | virustotal also looks similar |
| 15:26.48 | Kaelten | If I could find one that'd just let me give it a link to a file to scan |
| 15:26.48 | *** join/#wowace Baraius (n=bhuddles@150.105.84.5) |
| 15:26.50 | Kaelten | that'd be good enough |
| 15:27.19 | asmodai | Kaelten: Can't you use clamav for initial scans? |
| 15:27.24 | Kaelten | we do |
| 15:27.28 | asmodai | k |
| 15:27.37 | Kaelten | but for exes we like to do a second round of scanning |
| 15:27.44 | asmodai | Understandable. |
| 15:27.50 | Kaelten | and those 'scan against 50 engines' make good checks |
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| 15:28.53 | asmodai | Could always scrape the results ;) |
| 15:29.13 | asmodai | ah |
| 15:29.15 | asmodai | Kaelten: http://scanthis.net/read/api |
| 15:29.30 | asmodai | oh feck |
| 15:29.34 | asmodai | they use ClamAV >_< |
| 15:29.41 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2733 AckisRecipeList.toc: ToC Bump... 3.3 yay? |
| 15:30.00 | Kaelten | lol |
| 15:30.02 | Kaelten | damn them! |
| 15:30.03 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: so tell the mods to do it themselv against virustotal or so :D |
| 15:30.15 | Kaelten | ya and they do |
| 15:30.16 | nevcairiel | can't be *that* many exe files |
| 15:30.23 | Kaelten | but only have 2 or 3 active mods :P |
| 15:31.19 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Beta3-6-g15afae5 Collectinator.toc: [+1 commit] Another ToC Bump... yay? |
| 15:32.01 | Caleb| | ~alert |
| 15:32.02 | purl | I'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons... |
| 15:32.17 | Caleb| | ~wowalert |
| 15:32.18 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 15:32.23 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r697 / (16 files in 10 directories): Clean up TOCs and prepare for 3.3 tag |
| 15:33.07 | nevcairiel | man i seriously get a ticket 10 minutes after release that its broken on 3.2 |
| 15:33.10 | nevcairiel | damn users |
| 15:33.24 | Daemona | haha |
| 15:33.37 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: lol |
| 15:33.38 | Daemona | damn euros updating addons un tuesdays |
| 15:34.00 | nevcairiel | its all curse clients fault for making ticket submission so easy |
| 15:34.06 | Daemona | ... you should just disabled updating in CC on patchday tuesdays for clients that don run wow.us |
| 15:34.07 | nevcairiel | they never come back for feedback because they dont even know how |
| 15:34.26 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: iirc it links them to the ticket page |
| 15:34.37 | Kaelten | after they submit |
| 15:34.40 | Daemona | sure it does Kaelten but how many click yes |
| 15:34.45 | Daemona | and how many come back to those? |
| 15:34.58 | Kaelten | Daemona: heh |
| 15:35.00 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 15:35.02 | Daemona | all they know is: need account for addon updates, addon does error, report it |
| 15:35.06 | nevcairiel | did anyone try cartographer? |
| 15:35.10 | nevcairiel | did it finally break again? |
| 15:35.11 | Daemona | mapster ! |
| 15:35.29 | nevcairiel | just wondering if it broke badly |
| 15:35.33 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic 04v3.3 * r698 : Tagging as v3.3 |
| 15:35.35 | Repo | - Modules for new Frozen Halls encounters |
| 15:35.36 | Repo | - Several small bug fixes |
| 15:37.29 | asmodai | mmm, Seagate launched their SSDs |
| 15:37.39 | Gnarfoz | probably as shitty as their HDDs |
| 15:37.44 | asmodai | Apparently using Samsung chips and 16 channels (which is 6 more than Intel) |
| 15:37.51 | asmodai | 5 year warrantee |
| 15:38.06 | nevcairiel | seagate hdds are rather nice tbh, just one series was flawed |
| 15:38.13 | Repo | 10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r91 / (3 files in 1 directory): - toc for 3.3 |
| 15:38.15 | Repo | - added Boots of the Bay |
| 15:38.15 | asmodai | http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/12/8/seagate-launches-its-first-ssd-meet-pulsar.aspx |
| 15:38.37 | Gnarfoz | hitachi HDDs are nice, too, DTLA stigma is still there, tho |
| 15:39.10 | Gnarfoz | some moron is buying *all* my glyphs |
| 15:39.12 | Gnarfoz | what gives |
| 15:39.25 | nevcairiel | someone trying to take over the glyph market? |
| 15:39.40 | Gnarfoz | how would that accomplish that? :\ |
| 15:39.48 | nevcairiel | buy yours, resell for higher |
| 15:40.05 | Gnarfoz | well, people aren't gonna buy his, because I'll just undercut him again ;o |
| 15:40.11 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:40.34 | nevcairiel | MAN |
| 15:40.36 | nevcairiel | a second ticket |
| 15:40.37 | Gnarfoz | (I'm selling 3 of all currently avaiable glyphs at any given time) |
| 15:40.41 | asmodai | Kaelten: can you use http://www.kaspersky.com/scanforvirus ? |
| 15:40.42 | kadrahil | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:40.46 | asmodai | Kaelten: and scrape the resulting page? |
| 15:41.06 | asmodai | Kaelten: they don't use any annoying AJAX or stuff for waiting pages |
| 15:41.46 | nevcairiel | asmodai: "Enterprise class performance" sounds expensive, though =( |
| 15:42.05 | kadrahil | starship enterprise |
| 15:42.15 | kadrahil | :D |
| 15:42.28 | kadrahil | blinks |
| 15:42.36 | kadrahil | calls for backup |
| 15:42.39 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that should be "Galaxy class" imho |
| 15:42.49 | kadrahil | sigh |
| 15:42.57 | nevcairiel | the sovereign class was alot more fun tbh |
| 15:43.05 | Gnarfoz | true |
| 15:43.25 | kadrahil | someone made coffee this morning before i got here |
| 15:43.28 | kadrahil | i went and looked at it |
| 15:43.31 | kadrahil | thick as sludge |
| 15:43.44 | asmodai | "yummmmmmmmmmmmmm" |
| 15:43.56 | kadrahil | there wasn't much left so i dumped it out and made more |
| 15:44.10 | kadrahil | :D |
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| 15:44.34 | asmodai | more sludge? |
| 15:44.42 | kadrahil | no |
| 15:44.45 | kadrahil | i make GOOD coffee |
| 15:45.09 | Kaelten | asmodai: ya, I could do the same with a lot of sites |
| 15:45.20 | Kaelten | asmodai: just wish there was a good one that wasn't painful |
| 15:45.54 | asmodai | Kaelten: I'm still looking, but seems none offering an API. |
| 15:46.01 | asmodai | Kaelten: And they sometimes have stupid file size limits. |
| 15:46.06 | asmodai | Seriously, 512 kb? |
| 15:46.12 | Kaelten | lol |
| 15:46.27 | kadrahil | why did i read kb and think killing blows? |
| 15:46.32 | kadrahil | :( |
| 15:46.37 | nevcairiel | because you're a crazy pvp monkey? |
| 15:46.52 | kadrahil | i'm actually not though :/ |
| 15:46.52 | durcyn | kilobits, you say |
| 15:47.04 | kadrahil | i have less than 5k hk's on my DK |
| 15:47.08 | kadrahil | (lol) |
| 15:47.18 | nevcairiel | I probably have like 10 |
| 15:47.34 | kadrahil | my hunter didn't even break 20k after 2 years of TBC |
| 15:47.42 | nevcairiel | about 40k on my druid, but thats mostly from those 8+ hour alteracs back in vanilla |
| 15:47.49 | kadrahil | haha |
| 15:48.00 | nevcairiel | man those were fun |
| 15:48.05 | kadrahil | i missed out |
| 15:48.12 | kadrahil | account created december 11th 2006 :( |
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| 15:48.37 | durcyn | long alteracs were great rep grinds |
| 15:48.39 | durcyn | i miss that |
| 15:48.48 | nevcairiel | if it was really extreme, you could go to sleep and when you wake up could join the *same* alterac :P |
| 15:49.03 | arkanes | first AV on our server lasted 3 days |
| 15:49.04 | Kaelten | I assume the toc # this patch is 30300? |
| 15:49.08 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 15:49.16 | KriLL3 | I've had weekend long AV games also |
| 15:49.23 | KriLL3 | though I didn't sit through it all... |
| 15:49.28 | KriLL3 | since I'm mortal |
| 15:49.33 | nevcairiel | well usually during nights the horde got weak because they had less players |
| 15:49.43 | nevcairiel | so at some point around 3am alliance would usually win due to mass of players |
| 15:49.51 | asmodai | Kaelten: http://www.filterbit.com/ is ok too, but why the AJAXy stuff? :S |
| 15:50.05 | asmodai | Kaelten: and that at least has a max of 20 MiB upload |
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| 15:51.30 | Repo | 10onecore: 03Kaelten * r44 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag v1.3.3-beta for changeset 38d3ea6f4ebe |
| 15:51.34 | Repo | toc # update |
| 15:51.41 | Kaelten | to torture poeple asmodai |
| 15:51.57 | arkanes | man whats up with bind |
| 15:52.11 | arkanes | I've had like 4 security patches for it in the last 3 weeks, I thought we were over this kind of thing |
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| 15:52.49 | Repo | 10onebag3: 03Kaelten * r127 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag v3.3.11-beta for changeset cfb3c7d70f63 |
| 15:52.51 | Repo | toc update |
| 15:53.56 | Repo | 10onebank3: 03Kaelten * r51 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag v3.3.7-beta for changeset 346962d43328 |
| 15:54.00 | Repo | toc update |
| 15:54.40 | Repo | 10onering3: 03Kaelten * r26 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag v3.2.6-beta for changeset 8bb28b09ab1c |
| 15:54.42 | Repo | toc update |
| 15:56.48 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r2734 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:56.50 | Repo | - Added a decimal place to the progress bar % value |
| 15:56.57 | nevcairiel | seriously, can i disable ticket submission through CC4 somehow? |
| 15:57.03 | nevcairiel | its the third ticket :P |
| 15:57.10 | Kaelten | no currently, it's not an option |
| 15:58.04 | *** join/#wowace Ghli_ (n=Ghli_@32.153.226.237) |
| 15:58.09 | nevcairiel | Or set CC to not update to addons too new for yoru WoW |
| 15:58.36 | *** join/#wowace rmk` (n=user@delusion.fourty.net) |
| 15:59.39 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 15:59.41 | nevcairiel | another ticket |
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| 16:00.14 | durcyn | this is why i have tickets disabled for all of my projects |
| 16:00.19 | durcyn | forward thinking, you see |
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| 16:04.31 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: ya there is some very cool stuff that we could do with client version recognition |
| 16:04.58 | nevcairiel | i disabled the ticket tracker until tomorrow now |
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| 16:05.39 | steev | -- ãããå
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| 16:05.48 | asmodai | Heh |
| 16:05.51 | steev | well, at least the code is commented? |
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| 16:06.18 | Repo | 10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia * r113 / (3 files in 2 directories): -toc update |
| 16:06.19 | Repo | -add code to allow the padding options to function |
| 16:06.20 | Repo | -remove the disable flag from the 2 padding options |
| 16:07.23 | Repo | 10bottle-cap: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v3.1.1-2-g41e8061 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Bump for WoW 3.3.0. |
| 16:07.25 | Repo | 10bottle-cap: 03ethancentaurai 04v3.1.2 * baaa4f4 /: [new tag] Tagging as v3.1.2. |
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| 16:12.24 | Repo | 10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia 042.0.0 beta2 * r114 : Tag as 2.0.0 beta2 |
| 16:15.56 | arkanes | bzr /lastlog SharedMedia |
| 16:16.01 | arkanes | whoops :( |
| 16:17.43 | steev | bzr has no option /lastlog |
| 16:18.01 | Repo | 10portalfu: 03CrazyBenny * r62 / (2 files in 1 directory): toc for 3.3 |
| 16:18.06 | arkanes | yes I know :P |
| 16:18.44 | nevcairiel | "Twitter is over capacity." |
| 16:18.49 | nevcairiel | now twitter can be down, too? |
| 16:19.01 | CrazyBenny_ | happenning quite often lately |
| 16:19.15 | arkanes | twitters always been flaky |
| 16:19.45 | nevcairiel | I just use it for some "official" accounts from companys or so that post small status updates there |
| 16:19.52 | nevcairiel | so i can wait until its back, i guess =P |
| 16:20.37 | steev | not like you have a choice... |
| 16:22.26 | Repo | 10grid-auto-frame-size: 03CrazyBenny * r80 / (3 files in 1 directory): - toc for 3.3 |
| 16:22.28 | Repo | - added Icecrown Citadel |
| 16:23.39 | kadrahil | icecream citadel |
| 16:23.41 | kadrahil | imo |
| 16:23.46 | steev | truth |
| 16:23.59 | steev | i wonder if i got picked for our ulduar meta run this week |
| 16:24.00 | Repo | 10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r98 / (2 files in 1 directory): updated for 3.3 |
| 16:24.17 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r106 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Update for 3.3 Client |
| 16:24.30 | steev | unfortunately invites went out in the in-game calendar (god i hate when people use that) |
| 16:24.43 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 07WoW3.3Branch * r107 : - Removing 3.3 branch. |
| 16:24.51 | AckisWork | wow sucks |
| 16:24.53 | AckisWork | hah! |
| 16:24.58 | kadrahil | ulduar is old |
| 16:25.00 | kadrahil | why bother |
| 16:25.00 | steev | i wish there was a way to see the in-game calendar... uh, from outside it |
| 16:25.05 | Stanzilla | Ackis sucks! |
| 16:25.07 | kadrahil | there is |
| 16:25.09 | kadrahil | from armory |
| 16:25.11 | AckisWork | steev: i thoguht there was? |
| 16:25.12 | steev | kadrahil: proto-drake mount |
| 16:25.13 | AckisWork | Stanzilla: no u |
| 16:25.14 | CrazyBenny_ | isnt it on armory? |
| 16:25.37 | kadrahil | yes |
| 16:25.48 | kadrahil | stabs Fisker |
| 16:25.48 | steev | *sigh* |
| 16:25.50 | steev | maybe |
| 16:25.56 | steev | You have encountered an error. |
| 16:25.58 | kadrahil | no, it IS on armory, not maybe |
| 16:26.00 | steev | no armory for me |
| 16:26.05 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r108 Changelog.txt: - Update for 3.3 Client |
| 16:26.28 | kadrahil | or the entire world |
| 16:26.44 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.5.10 * r109 : - Publishing v0.5.10 for the 3.3 patch. |
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| 16:36.52 | Funkeh` | im going to assume patch is this week |
| 16:37.01 | Funkeh` | like, for definate |
| 16:37.10 | Stanzilla | good morning Funkeh` |
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| 16:37.29 | Funkeh` | good morning? just back from 7 hours uni |
| 16:37.35 | Funkeh` | what have you done today? ;p |
| 16:37.48 | Stanzilla | ask your mum :) |
| 16:38.47 | Mikk | grins |
| 16:40.23 | Funkeh` | sorry back |
| 16:40.26 | Funkeh` | was facepalming irl |
| 16:40.34 | Funkeh` | like, against the desk |
| 16:40.40 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 16:40.50 | durcyn | wouldn't be a facepalm then, more of a headdesk, don't you think |
| 16:40.55 | Mikk | idd |
| 16:41.18 | Mikk | could be a combined facepalm+headdesk though |
| 16:41.32 | durcyn | point. |
| 16:41.34 | Mikk | though that could hurt your fingers and that would be bad |
| 16:42.02 | steev | so, The Ashen Verdict |
| 16:42.07 | steev | how long does it take to hit friendly? |
| 16:42.18 | ckknight | so who all is excited for 3.3? |
| 16:42.26 | steev | <-- |
| 16:42.38 | steev | finally no more shitty naxx/uld/toc |
| 16:43.01 | Mikk | no, you get shitty icc instead |
| 16:43.13 | steev | thats fine |
| 16:43.35 | steev | i just need to find a decent pug for 10 man since I don't think ill be going to the 10 from our guild |
| 16:43.50 | Mikk | ups |
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| 16:45.34 | nevcairiel | seriously, raiding has been getting dumber every patch |
| 16:45.51 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta5-26-g6af3d78 / (42 files in 39 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 16:45.53 | Repo | 6af3d78: Bump TOC for 3.3.0 |
| 16:45.54 | Repo | 0c91060: Workaround for the You are not in a party stuff. |
| 16:45.55 | Repo | 4a829da: Oops called the wrong update function which broke the ability to disable |
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| 16:47.51 | sylvanaar | âTwo of the most famous products of Berkeley are LSD and Unix. |
| 16:47.51 | sylvanaar | I donât think that is a coincidence.â |
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| 16:49.37 | kadrahil | hence the naming of BSD! |
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| 16:51.10 | durcyn | quoting /usr/share/fortunes/computers:4300 again, i see. |
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| 16:54.41 | Repo | 10pitbull4_anubarak: 03Shefki 07master * f962d02 PitBull4_Anubarak.toc: [+1 commit] Bump TOC for 3.3.0 |
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| 16:54.54 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 16:55.07 | Caleb| | @describe pitbull4_anubarak |
| 16:55.08 | Repo | Caleb|: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_anubarak/. PitBull4_Anubarak. Display an indicator to show your Penetrating Cold target(s). |
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| 16:56.04 | sylvanaar | âYaccâ was what I felt like doing after I learned how to use yacc(1). |
| 16:56.04 | sylvanaar | i forgot all about this boog |
| 16:56.04 | sylvanaar | book |
| 16:56.04 | sylvanaar | its so funny |
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| 16:57.24 | sylvanaar | Q. Where did the names âCâ and âC++â come from? |
| 16:57.36 | sylvanaar | A. They were grades. |
| 16:58.01 | sylvanaar | "Syntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colon." |
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| 16:58.15 | Ingela | great nevcairiel you broke my 3,2 bartender! |
| 16:58.32 | nevcairiel | of course i did |
| 16:58.41 | nevcairiel | and you're a moron if you update today! |
| 16:58.44 | Mikk | upgrading addons the day before patch = doh |
| 16:58.59 | Ingela | auto update + alpha is not the win sometimes :D |
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| 16:59.13 | nevcairiel | even a release setting wouldnt have saved you today :P |
| 16:59.23 | Ingela | :D |
| 16:59.24 | ckknight | down with Europeans! |
| 16:59.31 | Ingela | :( |
| 16:59.34 | nevcairiel | down with stupid europeans |
| 16:59.38 | nevcairiel | so more room for me |
| 16:59.40 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:59.41 | Xtek | Or all. |
| 16:59.46 | ckknight | yes, all. |
| 16:59.49 | Ingela | you guys just hate me because i'm from eu |
| 16:59.56 | Xtek | Yes. |
| 16:59.57 | ckknight | yes, that's exactly why. |
| 17:00.02 | Ingela | hey |
| 17:00.04 | Ingela | that's not how it goes |
| 17:00.50 | ckknight | clearly you just don't love America enough. |
| 17:00.50 | Ingela | you should say "no we like you!" |
| 17:00.50 | Xtek | Well, when the EU gets paid mostly by US companies what do you expect? |
| 17:00.50 | ckknight | time for a little reeducation |
| 17:00.50 | Xtek | It's like dipping into a bum's change cup. |
| 17:01.35 | nevcairiel | .. right Xtek, thats why the USD is so weak now, yes? :P |
| 17:01.35 | Ingela | so did any of you try ICC yet |
| 17:01.35 | Xtek | nevcairiel: Exaclty. |
| 17:01.36 | nevcairiel | your economy died, not ours! |
| 17:01.36 | nevcairiel | well not yet anyway |
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| 17:01.53 | nevcairiel | waits for 2010 |
| 17:01.53 | yoshimo | ingela, i doubt it, its not really raidtime in us yet |
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| 17:01.53 | nevcairiel | us is still down |
| 17:02.25 | Ingela | yoshimo, prove your hardcoreness! |
| 17:02.25 | ckknight | US is slowly recovering |
| 17:02.26 | ckknight | things'll be alright |
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| 17:07.39 | ckknight | btw, Ingela, lulz |
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| 17:07.44 | Ingela | what ckknight? probebly missed something because of the random quits or what ever that just happened |
| 17:07.45 | nevcairiel | I seriously had to disable the ticket tracker for BT4 because i was getting like 1 ticket every 5 minutes about it beign broken in 3.2 now, silly people should pay more attention |
| 17:07.45 | ckknight | I said lulz |
| 17:07.45 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 17:07.45 | Ingela | hey are you calling me silly nevcairiel?! |
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| 17:07.45 | nevcairiel | i can call you worse, if you want |
| 17:07.45 | Ingela | nooes :'( |
| 17:07.45 | Shadowed | nevcairiel: At least this patch should be somewhat tame |
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| 17:08.05 | nevcairiel | whats with the join noice today |
| 17:08.05 | nevcairiel | slaps freenode |
| 17:08.05 | Sentri | netsplit awesomeness |
| 17:08.05 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: I hear bt4 is broke on a 2.3 based private server. |
| 17:08.23 | nevcairiel | 2.3, most certainly |
| 17:08.23 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:08.23 | Shadowed | they are on 2.4 |
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| 17:08.54 | Shadowed | well they were at least when I was getting 50 people asking for Afflicted on 2.4 |
| 17:09.01 | Stanzilla | 2.4.3 |
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| 17:10.34 | Repo | 10motdstripper: 03Contiki * r15 motdstripper.toc: Changed TOC number to 30300 for patch 3.3 |
| 17:10.44 | nevcairiel | people have asked me the same for bartender |
| 17:11.36 | nevcairiel | but even if i wanted to, its not possible, its completly based around the 3.0 things |
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| 17:12.27 | Shadowed | You just are letting the man keep the people down |
| 17:12.32 | Kaelten | isn't china still pre 3? |
| 17:12.52 | nevcairiel | i thought they got 3.0 just not wotlk |
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| 17:12.52 | Shadowed | I thought it was on WoTLK but it's still on 3.0 |
| 17:12.54 | Kaelten | not certain |
| 17:13.23 | Shadowed | Or at least, they are on a version before 3.2 |
| 17:13.28 | MysticalOS | there, logged into a diff freenode mirror, latency gone for the moment. must be patch day at freenode too |
| 17:15.18 | robo\afk | cartwheels |
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| 17:16.06 | Sentri | there was a global notice earlier |
| 17:16.06 | MysticalOS | yeah i saw it |
| 17:16.19 | MysticalOS | xchat has all the freenode mirrors built in , if any of them are acting up it'll auto choose one that's not behaving like that. usually i just relaunch and let it choose one working and i'm good to go :) |
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| 17:17.30 | arkanes | how is anyone even using it with 3.2 if the servers are down :( |
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| 17:18.22 | MysticalOS | private maybe. if servers are back up before 10pm server i'll be shocked |
| 17:18.35 | nevcairiel | EU servers are still up and running on 3.2 |
| 17:18.39 | nevcairiel | so are Asians |
| 17:18.46 | nevcairiel | i believe they patch on thursday |
| 17:18.55 | Shadowed | Wednesday is my understanding |
| 17:19.06 | Shadowed | for EU at least |
| 17:19.08 | MysticalOS | ah right, wed eu and thur asia right? |
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| 17:19.10 | nevcairiel | for EU, i believe korea and taiwan is thursday |
| 17:19.31 | Ingela | eu is wednesdays |
| 17:20.10 | Repo | 10motdstripper: 03Contiki 04beta-r15 * r16 : made a copy |
| 17:20.35 | MysticalOS | that's alrighnt, te game will be unplayable til like friday for everyone anyways :) |
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| 17:22.31 | Repo | 10motdstripper: 03Contiki 04beta-r17 * r17 : Tagged as beta-r17 |
| 17:23.19 | KriLL3 | errm, isn't the US supposed to have been patched by now? |
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| 17:24.16 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: still down, i suppose |
| 17:24.23 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 17:24.29 | sztanpet | img getting this error more then 20 times a second |
| 17:24.30 | sztanpet | 24x AceConfigDialog-3.0-41:1669: attempt to call method 'GetUserDataTable' (a nil value) |
| 17:24.39 | sztanpet | with absolutely zero information on who called it |
| 17:24.41 | arkanes | just checked, they're still done |
| 17:24.49 | KriLL3 | btw, idea for the client: don't let people update to versions meat for another version than you got installed |
| 17:24.52 | arkanes | *down |
| 17:24.55 | MysticalOS | us is patched, my client is already 3.3 but realms are still down for another hour or two minimum, but more liley 6-7 hours more |
| 17:25.41 | nevcairiel | sztanpet: someone used a really broken widget |
| 17:25.44 | nevcairiel | or custom frame |
| 17:26.28 | nevcairiel | sadly its running in a OnUpdate to refresh windows, so you wont see a backtrace |
| 17:26.32 | sztanpet | dang, any idea on how to find who to blame |
| 17:26.42 | sztanpet | bah |
| 17:27.33 | nevcairiel | dump LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0").OpenFrames and see whats in there |
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| 17:28.14 | sztanpet | a single empty table |
| 17:28.23 | sztanpet | thats all thats in it |
| 17:28.23 | nevcairiel | with what name? |
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| 17:28.39 | sztanpet | [1] = {} |
| 17:28.43 | sztanpet | thats all i see |
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| 17:28.44 | nevcairiel | while the error was happening? |
| 17:28.57 | sztanpet | yea, its still happening |
| 17:29.07 | nevcairiel | try LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0").BlizOptions |
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| 17:30.17 | nevcairiel | I bet some addon tried to manually change it |
| 17:30.21 | sztanpet | thats one big table |
| 17:30.25 | nevcairiel | and i changed its layout |
| 17:30.30 | Shadowed | Wasn't me! |
| 17:31.01 | nevcairiel | lets see |
| 17:31.38 | nevcairiel | dump LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0").frame.apps |
| 17:31.54 | sztanpet | chocolatebar = true |
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| 17:31.55 | nevcairiel | that should contain only strings that are currently active |
| 17:31.59 | nevcairiel | aha |
| 17:32.07 | nevcairiel | looks at chocolatebars code |
| 17:32.08 | sztanpet | lets see what happens |
| 17:32.35 | Mikk | gotta love it when people think it's a good idea to fiddle with library-internal code |
| 17:33.17 | sztanpet | sure enough, no errors |
| 17:33.43 | Axodious | hey Shadowed you around? |
| 17:34.29 | steev | so, do shards drop for shadowmourne in 10 man, or is it a strictly 25 man item |
| 17:34.32 | KriLL3 | Mikk: isn't it a brilliant idea to fiddle with the foundations of a building to fix the tilt of your leaning construction above? =P |
| 17:34.43 | Mikk | it is! |
| 17:34.44 | Shadowed | Axodious? |
| 17:34.54 | nevcairiel | funny though, i don't see anything wrong in the code |
| 17:35.21 | Axodious | friend wants to know if it'sp ossible to set your speedy actions addon to only work on certain buttons/abilities |
| 17:35.40 | Shadowed | No, but he can set it to ignore certain key bindings |
| 17:35.49 | KriLL3 | who still clicks spells? |
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| 17:36.22 | Shadowed | As far as Blizzard is concerned, you are clicking buttons when you use a key binding |
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| 17:36.37 | yoshimo | KriLL3 , whats wrong with that? |
| 17:36.39 | Axodious | "tell him i said thank you" |
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| 17:36.42 | KriLL3 | well the keybinds work on press |
| 17:36.43 | Axodious | ;p |
| 17:37.02 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: a lot slower (IMHO) to press bars than press keys |
| 17:37.23 | nevcairiel | lets see if i can reproduce that error |
| 17:37.25 | Funkeh` | i assume it's 30300 |
| 17:37.43 | Stanzilla | good morning Funkeh` |
| 17:37.59 | Funkeh` | looks for the kick in the nuts button |
| 17:38.30 | KriLL3 | also you can't look around, target etc with the mouse occupied on the bars |
| 17:39.11 | KriLL3 | guess it's not much of a difference for a caster, but it is for melee |
| 17:39.12 | Shadowed | No they don't :p |
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| 17:39.31 | Shadowed | The key bindings click the button, the button decides how the keybind works |
| 17:39.53 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: wha? |
| 17:39.53 | yoshimo | as you might have guessed KriLL3, im caster ;) |
| 17:40.03 | KriLL3 | if I press the keybind I have for an ability it's triggered when I push they key, not when I release it |
| 17:40.08 | Shadowed | Key bindings click a button, the button itself decides if it works on press or on release |
| 17:40.57 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: does it matter? I assume pushing a keybind causes press & release near instantly |
| 17:41.12 | Shadowed | Not really, but I am bored and semantics are fun |
| 17:42.22 | MysticalOS | i think it helps some as an arcane mage wi th 800+ haste, need those spells moving quick :D |
| 17:42.26 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: try rolling a rogue and click the bars ;) |
| 17:42.35 | arkanes | you actually can bind a key directly to a spell |
| 17:42.44 | KriLL3 | arkanes: how? |
| 17:42.49 | arkanes | there's an API call for it |
| 17:42.51 | KriLL3 | I got hidden bars for that |
| 17:42.55 | arkanes | couple addons expose it |
| 17:43.05 | KriLL3 | autobar got some of that |
| 17:43.09 | arkanes | if you really want more keybinds than you have buttons for some reason it's viable |
| 17:43.14 | KriLL3 | weird that there isn't some addon dedicated to it |
| 17:43.22 | arkanes | it's not very generally usefu |
| 17:43.35 | KriLL3 | well I want keybinds on stuff that I don't need bars for |
| 17:43.39 | arkanes | when it was first implemented there was an addon written to expose it, but I forget what it was called and I don't use it anymore |
| 17:43.53 | KriLL3 | don't need bars for my druid forms for example |
| 17:44.00 | KriLL3 | got those bound to mouse buttons |
| 17:44.11 | KriLL3 | so I'm using a hidden bar |
| 17:44.14 | yoshimo | KriLL3, when i play retribution instead of holy, i use keys as well , i could do the rotation at 2am and drunk ;) |
| 17:44.26 | MysticalOS | rotation? |
| 17:44.31 | KriLL3 | spell rotation |
| 17:44.35 | MysticalOS | when i play my paladin i just slide finger from 1-9 |
| 17:44.36 | KriLL3 | attacks you do in order |
| 17:44.53 | arkanes | Killmore: well, if you want to free up some bars the API call uyou want is SetBindingSpell |
| 17:44.54 | KriLL3 | I thought all retris played by smashing their faces against the keyboard |
| 17:45.03 | arkanes | or SetBindingClick, for mouse buttons |
| 17:45.11 | KriLL3 | arkanes: can you do it with macros? |
| 17:45.15 | MysticalOS | lol my question was not waht rotation meant, but rathor what rotation does a ret paladin have, you press stuff when it lights up. wack a mole :) |
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| 17:45.30 | KriLL3 | no idea, don't have one |
| 17:45.34 | arkanes | sorry, SetBindingClick is a different thing |
| 17:45.45 | arkanes | SetBindingSpell/SetBindingMacro/SetBindingItem |
| 17:46.03 | KriLL3 | arkanes: could you provide an example? not sure about the syntax |
| 17:46.23 | arkanes | Killmore: SetBindingKey("F1", "Cat Form") |
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| 17:46.37 | arkanes | er, SetBindingSpell |
| 17:46.39 | KriLL3 | with a / in front? |
| 17:46.52 | arkanes | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.38 | arkanes | here, use this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6385-BindPad-GUItosetkeybindingsforspellitemmacro.html |
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| 17:48.21 | arkanes | oh, SpellBinder is the one I used to use |
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| 17:51.13 | yoshimo | KriLL3, did you notice the vendors in front of trial of the crusader? faceroll and easymode? ;) |
| 17:51.24 | asmodai | nevcairiel: bt4 is ok to update even still on 3.2? |
| 17:51.30 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:51.34 | asmodai | mapster? |
| 17:52.09 | asmodai | is getting not |
| 17:52.12 | asmodai | guessing |
| 17:52.12 | Repo | 10project-14588: 03INSOMNIAX * r45 RepTracker.toc: RepTracker: |
| 17:52.13 | Repo | - Update .TOC for 3.3 |
| 17:52.36 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel enrage in 10 |
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| 17:56.43 | asmodai | Teh Xinhuan |
| 17:56.51 | nevcairiel | sad, i had to push a fix to Ace3 already :P |
| 17:57.05 | asmodai | muahaha |
| 17:57.42 | Shadowed | terrible programmer! |
| 17:58.00 | miica | Linus is best! |
| 17:58.03 | KriLL3 | why did you release Ace3 with bugs in it? |
| 17:58.14 | KriLL3 | seems like a bad idea |
| 17:58.15 | Shadowed | why do you hate us so nevcairiel |
| 17:58.15 | Shadowed | why |
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| 17:58.25 | asmodai | miica: Linus is far from the best programmer. >_< |
| 17:58.25 | nevcairiel | bugs are nutritious |
| 17:58.34 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: mostly protein! |
| 17:58.37 | nevcairiel | nomnom! |
| 17:58.38 | miica | asmodai: fuck you |
| 17:58.42 | Xtek | they have lots of protein |
| 17:58.47 | Pneumatus | it's not like anyone uses latest tag on ace3 anyway :> |
| 17:58.48 | KriLL3 | though it's cannibalism if it's a mosquito that's bitten someone else |
| 17:58.50 | miica | asmodai: linus is so <3<3 |
| 17:59.01 | asmodai | God, another fanboy. |
| 17:59.08 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: i'll just wait if something else comes up and tag it on the weekend or so |
| 17:59.11 | miica | asmodai: haha :D |
| 17:59.23 | miica | asmodai: ok stallman > linus |
| 17:59.26 | miica | and ofc my mom <3 |
| 17:59.28 | miica | but |
| 17:59.29 | asmodai | stallman's even worse. |
| 17:59.35 | miica | >:/ |
| 17:59.38 | KriLL3 | miica: stallman's neckbeard is fail |
| 17:59.40 | ckknight | oh god, Stallman's horrible |
| 17:59.46 | miica | oh my god |
| 17:59.48 | asmodai | At least you would get some credits if you said Eric S. Raymond. |
| 17:59.56 | Pneumatus | i can't decide, should i commit an alpha fixed for 3.3 version of my addon, or wait till tomorrow night when i can actually test it on live |
| 18:00.07 | miica | you are so doomed |
| 18:00.18 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: did you test it on PTR? |
| 18:00.21 | asmodai | Any mention of D.J. Bernstein will get you ridiculed. |
| 18:00.35 | MysticalOS | commit it with a readme no one reads, so people on 3.2 can start opening tickets and bugging you that it doesn't work |
| 18:00.42 | Pneumatus | KriLL3: only early PTRs, and I can't be sure they didn't change related shit between when i tested and now |
| 18:00.59 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: i can test on ptr if you want :P |
| 18:01.04 | KriLL3 | pfft, go for it, what's the worst thing that can happen? |
| 18:01.07 | Pneumatus | are EU ptrs still up? |
| 18:01.08 | ckknight | miica: who are you to doom one such as myself? |
| 18:01.11 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 18:01.15 | Pneumatus | oh, ill go test myself them |
| 18:01.18 | Pneumatus | *then |
| 18:01.28 | ckknight | I lord over thee with furious vengeance. |
| 18:01.30 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: why? can't really change anything in the patch at this point from feedback |
| 18:01.32 | miica | ckknight: i sended my evil worses MUHAHA :) |
| 18:01.41 | sztanpet | notice the troll |
| 18:01.51 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: so? they just keep them up, sometimes even after the patch went live |
| 18:01.54 | nevcairiel | doesnt hurt anything |
| 18:02.01 | MysticalOS | only thing i ever rememmber really changing on ptr was when they disabled the quest objective/map features fora few builds, then re-enabled it again later. |
| 18:02.05 | KriLL3 | well sure, but it seems somewhat... pointless |
| 18:02.10 | MysticalOS | otherwise if it worked early ptr it probably still works |
| 18:02.11 | miica | but why dont you like linus or stallman :( |
| 18:02.12 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: what about the planet? |
| 18:02.19 | arkanes | there's been a lot of PTR changes |
| 18:02.20 | KriLL3 | servers require power |
| 18:02.24 | Pneumatus | well, one of my addons never breaks, one just gets a new emblem added every patch and the other one is prone to breaking horribly at blizzard's will |
| 18:02.24 | nevcairiel | like they would shut down the hardware server |
| 18:02.42 | asmodai | Stallman writes just plain shitty code. |
| 18:02.50 | KriLL3 | asmodai: he's a drycoder |
| 18:03.00 | asmodai | KriLL3: Heh, I wouldn't be surprised. |
| 18:03.02 | KriLL3 | he has to be, with that neckbeard, would get all soggy otherwise |
| 18:03.16 | KriLL3 | and then he'd look even more like a hobo |
| 18:03.31 | asmodai | And Linus is able, but his style is far from best/ideal. Although he does have the arrogant programmer's attitude to make up for it. |
| 18:03.59 | miica | hmm.. |
| 18:04.04 | sztanpet | god guys, dont feed the troll |
| 18:04.06 | miica | well i diditn think that stallman is best program |
| 18:04.16 | miica | but hes idealogy is best so far :) |
| 18:04.26 | asmodai | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.30 | asmodai | goes to make dinner |
| 18:04.39 | miica | and i am from Finland and Linus is from Finland :3 |
| 18:04.52 | miica | and all what i have heard he is kinda natzi also.. |
| 18:05.00 | Repo | 10passloot_atlasloot: 03Odlaw * r4 PassLoot_AtlasLoot.toc: toc update |
| 18:05.27 | miica | so he is kinda our local hero |
| 18:05.27 | Repo | 10motdstripper: 03Contiki * r18 meta (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 18:05.29 | Repo | Created another promotional image, showing the before and after states on one image rather than two separate ones. |
| 18:06.10 | asmodai | Any comment I make about that will involve Godwin's Law. |
| 18:07.06 | KriLL3 | "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" |
| 18:07.32 | miica | lol :D |
| 18:07.38 | miica | sry.. |
| 18:07.49 | miica | well here natzi dont mean natzi like bad way |
| 18:07.52 | miica | it is like |
| 18:08.07 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 18:08.12 | miica | when somebody is natzi he is does hes job well |
| 18:08.35 | KriLL3 | fins *shakes head* |
| 18:09.04 | miica | well w8 sec i try to look right word |
| 18:09.28 | miica | strict, exact? |
| 18:10.06 | miica | they had realy hard discipline or something :) |
| 18:10.18 | nevcairiel | "nazi - A very strict, mean, rude, evil person." |
| 18:10.26 | nevcairiel | us people seem to use that, too |
| 18:10.28 | nevcairiel | at elast in slang |
| 18:10.38 | miica | yeah! |
| 18:10.48 | arkanes | omg omg omg |
| 18:10.53 | MysticalOS | sounds like my raid leader |
| 18:10.54 | arkanes | they have mst3k on hulu now! |
| 18:11.11 | miica | and i like that way :) |
| 18:11.18 | miica | i am also kinda nazi raid leader myself |
| 18:11.35 | miica | i dont like if somebody comes late |
| 18:11.51 | miica | he dont respect others |
| 18:12.06 | miica | and ofc he dont respect my time |
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| 18:12.28 | MysticalOS | i don't mind it, except he tends to be clueless too. like yelling at the dps for having such low dps cause tank forgot rightous fury. :o only so much aoe you can do on borrowers when tank is terrible. heh |
| 18:12.33 | KriLL3 | amazing, guy in another chan is convinced cartographer is still being maintained, and he's using wowmatrix to update it regularly he claims |
| 18:12.44 | Pneumatus | anyone with an EU PTR account, ideally with a char with a pet on Brill? |
| 18:12.47 | arkanes | odd |
| 18:13.08 | nevcairiel | i might have a char on brill, but no pets |
| 18:13.09 | MysticalOS | well, cartographer is still being patched from time to time on wowace, but most certainly not on wowmatrix |
| 18:13.14 | nevcairiel | although i'm not sure about brill |
| 18:13.22 | asmodai | Pneumatus: mmm, I think I'm on brill, and if so, I have pets |
| 18:13.23 | Pneumatus | time to go dalaran hunting then |
| 18:13.40 | asmodai | oh wait, hunter pets or normal pets? |
| 18:13.41 | arkanes | last wowace update was some months ago |
| 18:13.48 | Pneumatus | hunter/lock pet |
| 18:13.54 | Pneumatus | need to check partypet overlays |
| 18:14.00 | asmodai | Mmm, no, sorry |
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| 18:14.04 | arkanes | you can get warlock imp at level.. 2? now |
| 18:14.10 | miica | MysticalOS: i yell also if somebody makes low dps ofc i look hes class, spec, items, buffs and what kinda boss we got |
| 18:14.13 | nevcairiel | i can create a lvl 1 warlock and play for 5 minutes :P |
| 18:14.46 | MysticalOS | ark someone updated it 3 days ago heh. although 3.3 is gonna break it again, but someone is always kicking the dead horse |
| 18:14.58 | Pneumatus | dw, im sure i'll find a hunter or a lock somewhere round here... |
| 18:15.07 | Repo | 10pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r85 / (13 files in 2 directories): - toc update |
| 18:15.08 | Repo | - Adjust the UI a little (make name font smaller to fit better and other small changes) |
| 18:15.09 | Repo | - Added the Confirm BoP module. (We can trade items so I don't see the need for this to be separate addon anymore) |
| 18:15.10 | Repo | - Add DE options for each rule. Rules with DE marked will try to roll for disenchant first, greed/need/pass second. |
| 18:15.26 | asmodai | kill it already |
| 18:15.29 | asmodai | bury that horse |
| 18:15.56 | KriLL3 | MysticalOS: I thought cart wasn't maintained anymore? or is it just libs etc being updated? |
| 18:15.58 | Repo | 10macro-bank: 03Odlaw * r45 / (2 files in 1 directory): - toc update |
| 18:16.00 | Repo | - Add multiple categories to be loaded on talent switch. |
| 18:16.14 | nevcairiel | I should really test cartographer to see *how bad* its broken |
| 18:16.25 | nevcairiel | to evaluate the changes of that guy maintaining it manage to fix it :P |
| 18:16.26 | genetik- | make sure to get it from wowmatrix |
| 18:16.27 | miica | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yom8nNqmxvQ Fin xmas songs \m/ |
| 18:16.29 | MysticalOS | i think it has an open repo so people go in there form time to time and randomly fix lua errors but don't do any kind of real fixes |
| 18:16.29 | nevcairiel | *chances |
| 18:16.31 | genetik- | heh |
| 18:16.43 | KriLL3 | MysticalOS: ah |
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| 18:16.49 | KriLL3 | well I'm happily using mapster etc |
| 18:17.06 | nevcairiel | Mapster is awesome, anyway! |
| 18:17.15 | arkanes | mapsters working on 3.3, right? |
| 18:17.18 | genetik- | i'm not sure i'll be using mapster anymore even.. with the default one being able to not be full screen |
| 18:17.21 | KriLL3 | arkanes: yes |
| 18:17.38 | KriLL3 | genetik-: well the small mode is very limited |
| 18:17.40 | arkanes | I've been getting sick of cart so this would be a good time to give mapster a try |
| 18:17.42 | genetik- | KriLL3: how so? |
| 18:17.48 | genetik- | (i didn't test it on ptr) |
| 18:18.05 | MysticalOS | the features blizz added to questlog/map are nice, but what an awful UI they gave it |
| 18:18.07 | Pneumatus | i'll still be using mapster as you can't move/resize the default UI one properly |
| 18:18.08 | KriLL3 | I don't think it works with waypoints, handynotes, etc, it's more like bg map from what I saw |
| 18:18.28 | KriLL3 | it's not a scaled down map, it's just a small map |
| 18:18.35 | KriLL3 | and it's way too small for me |
| 18:18.39 | genetik- | oh, that's dumb then |
| 18:18.42 | genetik- | mapster stays |
| 18:18.43 | genetik- | heh |
| 18:19.06 | Pneumatus | the small map doesn't have dropdowns etc, and isn't movable |
| 18:19.11 | genetik- | silly me thought they'd actually do something right |
| 18:19.27 | arkanes | you can move the small map |
| 18:19.33 | nevcairiel | yeah they added movement |
| 18:19.37 | arkanes | you have to toggle it on in the settings, though |
| 18:20.32 | Pneumatus | oh, so you can |
| 18:20.34 | Pneumatus | hmm |
| 18:20.49 | nevcairiel | they even added alpha |
| 18:20.58 | nevcairiel | but its still fail |
| 18:21.24 | KriLL3 | better than nothing I guess |
| 18:21.27 | genetik- | that's unfortunate |
| 18:23.48 | yoshimo | they should increase the resolution of the minimaptiles to make atlas more beautiful |
| 18:24.43 | jnwhiteh | 3.2.2 Live -> 3.3.0 API diff: http://apidiff.pastey.net/129958 |
| 18:25.06 | nevcairiel | I prefer the artwork maps anyway, they look more like a map then the minimap things |
| 18:25.31 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.13-9-g3c6b34a Fortress.toc: [+1 commit] - always load LibStub and CBH, they're needed |
| 18:25.54 | yoshimo | nev, then at least they should create some maps for non wotlk instances |
| 18:26.02 | nevcairiel | cataclysm ;) |
| 18:26.13 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: funny really, the maps in mapster of instances look awesome, but atlas still uses the cruddy minimap ones, though they're more detailed |
| 18:26.28 | nevcairiel | mapster just uses the instance maps provided by the game |
| 18:26.40 | KriLL3 | I know |
| 18:26.58 | KriLL3 | but can you access em outside of instances without mapster? forgot if that drop down is default or not |
| 18:27.02 | yoshimo | cataclysm wont affect outland, will it? |
| 18:27.04 | nevcairiel | SetMapByID = awesome |
| 18:27.07 | KriLL3 | been using cart/mapster since vanilla |
| 18:27.14 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: most likely no |
| 18:27.26 | KriLL3 | perhaps some npc somewhere for some chain |
| 18:27.27 | nevcairiel | maybe they'll do maps anyway while they are at it |
| 18:27.30 | MysticalOS | not unless they do something with sarg storyline |
| 18:27.34 | Shadowed | yay multitouch support in 3.3 |
| 18:27.34 | MysticalOS | then you never know |
| 18:27.43 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: eh? |
| 18:27.48 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: WoW on touch screens now? :P |
| 18:27.56 | Shadowed | Dunno just look at clads diff |
| 18:27.59 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 041.13.1 * 03e8e3d /: [new tag] Release for WoW Patch 3.3 |
| 18:28.04 | Shadowed | few multitouch cvars |
| 18:28.04 | KriLL3 | how would you even apply multi touch to wow? |
| 18:28.09 | yoshimo | is that some weird new inputdevice? |
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| 18:28.25 | Fisker | btw does CC take into context that it's only patchday for the US? |
| 18:28.31 | nevcairiel | no Fisker |
| 18:28.33 | sztanpet | nevcairiel thanks for the chocolatebar fix <3 |
| 18:28.38 | MysticalOS | possibly supporting multitouch mouse actions on trackpads, such as zoom and such? |
| 18:28.58 | nevcairiel | sztanpet: i also fixed the cause in Ace3, so i hope it doesnt happen to many other people from now on |
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| 18:30.17 | nevcairiel | was a race condition, really. Upgrade lib just between setting the OnUpdate and its first run |
| 18:30.20 | Repo | 10simple-minimap: 03lenvik * r160 / (3 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 18:30.22 | Repo | simpleMinimap: |
| 18:30.23 | Repo | - Updated for compatability with patch 3.3. |
| 18:30.24 | Repo | - Bumped TOC to 30300. |
| 18:30.25 | Repo | - Removed AchievementWatchFrame and QuestWatchFrame as they no longer exist. |
| 18:32.16 | Repo | 10badboy_levels: 03funkydude 04v2.1.5 * r60 : Tagging as v2.1.5 |
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| 18:32.44 | Kivnel | well there goes my first SVN commit ever :P |
| 18:32.50 | KriLL3 | said guy that said cart > mapster is now claiming I gave him a trojan by linking to mapster on curse.com |
| 18:32.50 | Repo | 10badboy_ccleaner: 03funkydude 04v2.2.1 * r17 : Tagging as v2.2.1 |
| 18:32.57 | KriLL3 | I'm not sure if he's retarded or a troll |
| 18:33.04 | arkanes | trolling probably |
| 18:33.10 | nevcairiel | both, probably |
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| 18:33.26 | Repo | 10fubar_gearrating: 03arathon2 * r37 FuBar_GearRating.toc: FuBar_GearRating: |
| 18:33.26 | KriLL3 | lol |
| 18:33.27 | Repo | - Updated TOC to 30300 |
| 18:33.35 | Fisker | that made nevcairiel angry :( |
| 18:33.55 | KriLL3 | is 3.3.0 30300? wouldn't that be 33000? |
| 18:33.56 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v4.0.1.6 * r415 : Tagging as v4.0.1.6 |
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| 18:34.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+o nevcairiel] by ChanServ |
| 18:34.19 | Fisker | ragequit nevcairiel |
| 18:36.54 | asmodai | KriLL3: But is that a trolling retard or a retarded troll? |
| 18:37.28 | KriLL3 | asmodai: that is the question |
| 18:38.43 | nevcairiel | I hate when i get a tracking number for my shipments and they don't work <.< |
| 18:39.00 | fewyn | that usually means the shipping courier hasn't gotten it yet |
| 18:39.05 | fewyn | i know i get that a lot with ups |
| 18:39.06 | nevcairiel | people need to ship with UPS more, i can even get sms notifications on their shipment status |
| 18:39.21 | ulic | KriLL3: it's 30300, they decided to start zero padding the .# so they could get into double digits if needed. |
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| 18:39.34 | ulic | so 3.11 would be 31100 |
| 18:39.39 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 18:40.03 | nevcairiel | fewyn: actually with UPS it shows up immediately, they must be using some sort of mobile appliance for tracking things |
| 18:40.08 | ulic | which seems odd since they haven't gotten that high in a long while :) |
| 18:40.14 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I get that with the good old post office |
| 18:40.16 | fewyn | ah that would explain it nevcairiel |
| 18:40.43 | nevcairiel | this was DHL, they usually fail at status updates |
| 18:40.49 | fewyn | yea dhl does fail |
| 18:40.52 | nevcairiel | but i'm so impatient, i need to check once an our |
| 18:40.55 | fewyn | i don't use them for anything anymore |
| 18:40.56 | Repo | 10whispercolor: 03Borlox 07master * 1.1-2-g0055669 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 18:40.58 | Repo | 0055669: - toc update, compatible with patch 3.3 |
| 18:40.59 | Repo | 7db5942: - small height fix |
| 18:41.09 | nevcairiel | didn't have much of a choice this time |
| 18:41.27 | Repo | 10whispercolor: 03Borlox 041.1.1 * 2db47c7 /: [new tag] Release for WoW Patch 3.3 |
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| 18:43.29 | Repo | 10ccopy: 03Borlox 07master * 1.2-beta1-2-gff1bd69 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 18:43.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 18:43.31 | Repo | ff1bd69: - toc update, compatible with patch 3.3 |
| 18:43.32 | Repo | 63fffd1: - added option to include the marker in the quoted text |
| 18:43.33 | Repo | a6eaa1d: - raid icons are now replaced by there {rt*} text bit |
| 18:43.43 | onaforeignshore | whomever updated Ace3 45 minutes ago, broke AceComm :p |
| 18:43.52 | asmodai | sighs |
| 18:43.58 | Fisker | kisses |
| 18:44.03 | asmodai | GCC: cc: Internal error: Segmentation fault: 11 (program ld) |
| 18:44.04 | nevcairiel | nothing changed in AceComm for a long while, tbh :P |
| 18:44.08 | asmodai | Please submit a full bug report. |
| 18:44.26 | nevcairiel | ld segfaults, eh? |
| 18:44.29 | nevcairiel | thats never a good sign |
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| 18:45.10 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Probably some minor buglet somewhere in either GCC or some other thing. |
| 18:45.13 | arkanes | give gold a shot instead |
| 18:45.14 | Repo | 10ccopy: 03Borlox 041.2 * 29ad551 /: [new tag] CCopy Version 1.2 |
| 18:45.16 | Gunrun | Anyone happen to use xperl who has a realm up running 3.3? I was wondering if xperl works if I disable disabling out of date addons? |
| 18:45.24 | arkanes | I've had a lot of people swear by it |
| 18:45.31 | Gunrun | I'm in europe so we're still on 3.2 |
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| 18:45.43 | arkanes | Gunrun: I was using xperl on on the PTR without any major problems |
| 18:46.11 | Gunrun | that's good, bartender was updated today as well so everything should be fine I guess |
| 18:46.59 | onaforeignshore | nevcairiel: Usage: _RegisterComm(eventname, method[, arg]): 'eventname' - string expected. |
| 18:47.10 | nevcairiel | so, pass in a string? |
| 18:47.11 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 18:47.28 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser updated |
| 18:47.49 | Shadowed | maybe it's reverse psychology nevcairiel, maybe it really wants an integer |
| 18:47.57 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 18:48.07 | nevcairiel | thats CallbackHandler causing the error, its not insane like that |
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| 18:48.53 | onaforeignshore | nevcairiel: /facepalm - found the error - was totally my fault - changed the name of a local and didn't change it in the RegisterComm call - feel like a n00b now |
| 18:49.07 | nevcairiel | good |
| 18:49.16 | onaforeignshore | gee, thanks :p |
| 18:49.36 | KriLL3 | same guy is now saying he knows he got a trojan from installing mapster since the login says something about "battle.nat" |
| 18:49.47 | KriLL3 | facedesks |
| 18:49.50 | nevcairiel | did he not login the last month? |
| 18:50.00 | Belazor | DEY BE TUKKEN MA DETAILZ |
| 18:50.09 | KriLL3 | I doubt he knows how to spell his login |
| 18:50.28 | Belazor | I always knew mapster was an evil little mod, the author is probably an asshole too! XD |
| 18:50.30 | Repo | 10project-13698: 03Borlox 07master * 1.1a-3-gd630863 CombatDnd.toc: [+1 commit] - toc update, compatible with patch 3.3 |
| 18:50.35 | arkanes | maybe he's got that disorder where you don't experience subjective time |
| 18:50.49 | KriLL3 | Belazor: yes, I'm sure mapster contains a ton of executable trojans, that get... executed... somehow... |
| 18:50.49 | arkanes | and to him, last year was only yesterday |
| 18:50.59 | nevcairiel | flexes his kicking finger |
| 18:51.06 | Belazor | KriLL3: BUT PHP HAS EVAL() AND THIS MUST MEAN LUA HAS IT TO!!!! |
| 18:51.11 | Repo | 10project-13698: 03Borlox 041.1.1 * d1061e7 /: [new tag] Release for WoW Patch 3.3 |
| 18:51.58 | KriLL3 | hows the US servers btw? up yet? |
| 18:52.19 | onaforeignshore | when's EU going to 3.3? |
| 18:52.24 | KriLL3 | Schrodinger's servers? both online and offline at the same time? |
| 18:52.24 | nevcairiel | tomorrow |
| 18:52.25 | Belazor | next year |
| 18:52.37 | KriLL3 | onaforeignshore: on patch day, which is Wednesday |
| 18:52.47 | onaforeignshore | so all the addons are gonna be broken again :p |
| 18:52.52 | KriLL3 | or did you think they changed what they've been doing from the start now? |
| 18:53.00 | KriLL3 | no, you just need to enable em |
| 18:53.02 | Belazor | nah addons will mostly be fine |
| 18:53.19 | Belazor | questguru is gonna be a lot better at least XD |
| 18:53.21 | onaforeignshore | {skull} still valid, or are all now {rt*} ? |
| 18:53.26 | MysticalOS | not all, when i did ptr testing most of my addnos worked fine, just anything that deals with questlog or maps will be broken, or anything that still calls frametype instead of objecttype |
| 18:54.00 | Belazor | questguru is working (I think, still on 3.2 here :p) and it uses the new history thingy |
| 18:54.13 | MysticalOS | yeah, in fact he just upped beta 2 |
| 18:54.22 | Belazor | it rly does all I need; checkboxes to track quests, announces completion |
| 18:54.26 | Belazor | aye |
| 18:54.32 | Fisker | flexes his prostate finger |
| 18:54.39 | Pneumatus | onaforeignshore: {skull} works on PTR still |
| 18:54.40 | onaforeignshore | well, *most* of my addons are now Ace3, but there are a few Ace2 ones left with now Ace3 counterparts - I even replaced FuBar, but still need FuBar2Broker for a few ones that don't have Broker counterparts |
| 18:54.58 | Belazor | same |
| 18:55.05 | MysticalOS | yeah, fubar friends and guild are still best plugins |
| 18:55.13 | MysticalOS | fubar2broker ftw |
| 18:55.17 | Belazor | pallypower is ace2 still =( |
| 18:55.25 | onaforeignshore | so rewrite it :p |
| 18:55.35 | Belazor | fuck that XD |
| 18:55.37 | Kazie | Is clearfont still up to date or have some other addon taken it's place? |
| 18:55.39 | onaforeignshore | call it PowerPally :p |
| 18:55.46 | Belazor | I might rewrite honorfuplus at some point, but meh |
| 18:56.04 | onaforeignshore | Kazie: I use tekticles and just change the font to what I want |
| 18:56.13 | onaforeignshore | not as bloated as ClearFont |
| 18:56.31 | MysticalOS | shadowed should fix up his pally addon |
| 18:56.40 | Kazie | tekticles? well i'd just like an addon that could increase the font size in general :P |
| 18:56.40 | Daemona | Belazor i'd think zomgBuffs is an acceptable alternative to pallypower |
| 18:56.43 | Shadowed | I don't really play paladins anymore |
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| 18:56.53 | MysticalOS | PP still crahses my client i du nno why |
| 18:57.15 | KriLL3 | said guy found a "w0w.exe" in system 32 and is asking if he should delete system 32 |
| 18:57.18 | Shadowed | I could move it to wowace if someone wanted to tweak it thought |
| 18:57.18 | KriLL3 | I feel like saying yes |
| 18:57.22 | Shadowed | it does work, it's just not maintained |
| 18:57.27 | Belazor | Daemona: but can it communicate with other PP users? Not that I raid anymore, but everybody doing heroics are paladins these days :p |
| 18:57.29 | nevcairiel | lol KriLL3 |
| 18:57.33 | Belazor | Shadowed: what paladin addon? |
| 18:57.37 | Daemona | Belazor yes it can |
| 18:57.42 | Kazie | onaforeignshore: Is it possible to change the font-size with tekticles? |
| 18:57.48 | Belazor | alright, Ill check it out then, thanks :) |
| 18:57.50 | Daemona | and it can even auto-assign blessings according to spec |
| 18:57.53 | Shadowed | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12734-PaladinBuffer.html |
| 18:57.56 | MysticalOS | shadowed could it sync up with PP? thing that's big thing |
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| 18:57.59 | Shadowed | yes |
| 18:58.04 | Daemona | including exceptions and auras |
| 18:58.08 | KriLL3 | Daemona: eh? how does it know if a feral is dps or tank? |
| 18:58.11 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 18:58.12 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 18:58.12 | Primer | Has anything substantial changed? |
| 18:58.12 | quiescens | they should change blessing of sanctuary so that it just modifies that paladin's blessing of kings to give the additional effect |
| 18:58.16 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 18:58.30 | Shadowed | It works fine, it's just not maintained because I don't play a Paladin |
| 18:58.36 | Daemona | KriLL3 because as feral tank you specc different than feral dps? if not you fail at min/maxing |
| 18:58.36 | Belazor | KriLL3: Kings is a safe bet, some rogues want kings and some want might |
| 18:58.39 | Shadowed | but it does all the comm between PB and PP users just fine |
| 18:58.50 | onaforeignshore | Kazie; yes, if you do it in the code though |
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| 18:58.59 | KriLL3 | Daemona: well there aren't that many distinct dps & tanking talents |
| 18:59.11 | Belazor | Shadowed: Isn't this UI kinda the same as pallypower |
| 18:59.12 | Belazor | XD |
| 18:59.14 | Kazie | onaforeignshore: oh.. is that complicated? :P |
| 18:59.15 | Daemona | enough to min/max and use 2 specs |
| 18:59.21 | Shadowed | Unfortunately it's the best UI |
| 18:59.22 | kromar | hey how can i revert a update done with the ace updater? |
| 18:59.38 | KriLL3 | kromar: delete the addon, download an older version |
| 18:59.38 | kromar | ähh curse updater |
| 18:59.41 | quiescens | protector of the pack and thick hide are pretty easy? |
| 18:59.46 | Daemona | kromar manually download an older version via http://wow.curse.com |
| 18:59.48 | KriLL3 | quiescens: true |
| 18:59.49 | Shadowed | I'm not really a fan of that layout, but it's the most functional and easy to use |
| 18:59.59 | arkanes | I prefer zomgbuffs |
| 19:00.13 | Shadowed | But yes, the main difference is it's meant to be very simple and not do 500 things like zomgbuffs or pp |
| 19:00.15 | kromar | KriLL3: well i cant find any older versions... |
| 19:00.36 | Repo | 10magic-marker: 03dhedbor * r155 / (2 files in 1 directory): [*]Fixed GUID to UID parsing for 3.3. |
| 19:00.37 | Grum | ckknight: how much traffic is curse pulling? :D |
| 19:00.47 | Belazor | Shadowed: I play a Paladin, but meh you use git :p |
| 19:00.47 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r210 / (2 files in 1 directory): [*]Core: Fixed GUID to UID parsing for 3.3. |
| 19:00.51 | KriLL3 | kromar: curse got a list of older versions |
| 19:00.57 | ulic | do any unit frame addons have the new "role" icons yet? I tried poking around the PTR to see how to add them, but I didn't try very hard. |
| 19:00.58 | Shadowed | Git isn't partically hard to use |
| 19:01.02 | Daemona | Grum if they already maxed out the 6 gige they were talking about earlier we probably would know by now ;) |
| 19:01.05 | Shadowed | SUF does ulic |
| 19:01.12 | Shadowed | see the modules/indicators.lua file |
| 19:01.16 | Belazor | I don't give a shite, I don't want 2 version control clients on my comp :p |
| 19:01.27 | Belazor | 6 gig? |
| 19:01.31 | Belazor | isnt that a bit tiny |
| 19:01.40 | kromar | KriLL3: ah i normally updated this addon from wowinterface and there is no old version o_O |
| 19:01.49 | ulic | Shadowed: would you be offended if I borrowed some of your code to try and impliment them in PB4? |
| 19:01.56 | Shadowed | not really |
| 19:01.59 | Shadowed | it's like 5 lines |
| 19:02.00 | Daemona | Belazor naah, afaik CC throttles clients that don't have a subscription |
| 19:02.17 | Shadowed | But there's no real good image for the indicators, unless you want to use Blizzards (which is what I did) |
| 19:02.26 | KriLL3 | ulic: you should get some neck brace thingy to combat people with piano wire |
| 19:02.31 | Belazor | Daemona: fair enough but my dead forum rakes 17gb a month, this site would easily rake that in 5 seocnds XD |
| 19:02.51 | arkanes | I believe he was talking about a 6 gig/sec pipe, not a 6 gig bandwidth cap |
| 19:03.05 | Belazor | oh |
| 19:03.13 | Belazor | that makes more sense |
| 19:03.18 | Daemona | 6x 1 GigE aka 1000mbit ;) |
| 19:03.27 | Belazor | I havent read the post he was referring to XD |
| 19:03.39 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 19:04.06 | Daemona | 16:25
@Kaelten: we have 6 gige links total I think (3.5h ago) |
| 19:04.18 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * v2.1.5 Mounted.toc: [+1 commit] update toc to 30300 |
| 19:04.24 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 04v2.1.5 * cdc28c4 /: [new tag] Tagging as v2.1.5 |
| 19:04.31 | Repo | 10basic-minimap: 03funkydude * r89 / (2 files in 1 directory): locale+toc update |
| 19:05.19 | Belazor | oic |
| 19:05.49 | Belazor | well installed zomgbuffs and SBF to replace EBB, now all I need is to wait for tomorrow to test it |
| 19:06.18 | quiescens | delete them all~ |
| 19:06.20 | KriLL3 | Belazor: why 2 addons? |
| 19:06.22 | arkanes | I'm very fond of zomgbuffs |
| 19:06.29 | Repo | 10yssdrop: 03yssaril 07master * v1.8.6 YssDrop.toc: [+1 commit] update TOC to 30300 |
| 19:06.36 | Repo | 10yssdrop: 03yssaril 04v1.8.6 * 4eee5a1 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.8.6 |
| 19:06.37 | Belazor | KriLL3: they both do different things |
| 19:06.49 | KriLL3 | I like EBB but it's glitchy in places, and I'd prefer if the non duration buffs were just a row of icons instead of having bars |
| 19:07.12 | Belazor | you noticed that some debuffs dont show, randomly? |
| 19:07.33 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 19:07.45 | KriLL3 | I guess EBB wasn't updated since they were added |
| 19:07.46 | arkanes | I;ve never had that problem |
| 19:08.02 | KriLL3 | also it doesn't work well with the defend buff in mounted combat |
| 19:08.13 | Repo | 10ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets: 03yssaril * r20 AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets.toc: update TOC to 30300 |
| 19:08.14 | arkanes | bah I forgot that I had patched sexymap and wiped out my patches :( |
| 19:08.29 | Belazor | lawl |
| 19:08.42 | Kaelten | how goes guys? |
| 19:08.55 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: do tell about current pipe usage |
| 19:09.14 | Repo | 10ace-gui-3-0-shared-media-widgets: 03yssaril 043.3.1 * r21 : Tagging as 3.3.1 |
| 19:09.26 | KriLL3 | curse.com is getting a bit slow... WE NEED MORE POWER SCOTTY! |
| 19:09.39 | Daemona | we need some nice load gfx for the interfaces ! |
| 19:09.48 | Daemona | where is m MRTG gfx? ;) |
| 19:10.00 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:10.02 | quiescens | moo |
| 19:10.12 | Repo | 10amc: 03S1nless * r55 / (14 files in 3 directories): Updatet for 3.3 (toc update) |
| 19:10.46 | Belazor | KriLL3: I cannae do i' cap'n! I'm pushing her for all she's got! |
| 19:10.53 | KriLL3 | why is curse.com still the default site and not some life raft "zomg we're getting DDoS:ed" minimalistic site? |
| 19:11.13 | arkanes | because they have MASSIVE HUGE PIPES |
| 19:11.19 | KriLL3 | arkanes: ah |
| 19:11.20 | Belazor | Tubes. |
| 19:11.22 | KriLL3 | well it's a bit slow here |
| 19:11.23 | Belazor | Not pipes. |
| 19:11.25 | Belazor | Tubes. |
| 19:11.46 | Belazor | does the pvp frame show arena points by default yet? |
| 19:11.48 | KriLL3 | Belazor: the internet is basically built the same way one would make a potato gun |
| 19:12.02 | KriLL3 | PVC tubes with PVC cement |
| 19:12.16 | Belazor | only its TCP tubes with TCP cement |
| 19:12.30 | KriLL3 | Belazor: you mean how many arena points you'll get? |
| 19:12.30 | quiescens | a log with a hole carved out of it? |
| 19:12.54 | ckknight | KriLL3: Curse is holding up pretty well. 450 pages/sec going through. |
| 19:12.59 | Belazor | yeah, estimated points by rating |
| 19:13.14 | Repo | 10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 07master * v1.2.5 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] update TOC to 30300 and also bummped the WoW rev number |
| 19:13.21 | Repo | 10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 04v1.2.5 * cdfe4c1 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.2.5 |
| 19:13.28 | Repo | 10basic-minimap: 03funkydude 04v1.65 * r90 : Tagging as v1.65 |
| 19:13.29 | Gaz2 | i like to think its a series of hamster tubes. cuter packets. |
| 19:13.29 | Shadowed | 3.3 should be relatively tame regardless |
| 19:13.32 | Shadowed | since not a ton of stuff has broken |
| 19:13.34 | KriLL3 | ckknight: I does the ads give enough revenue to pay for that kind of bandwidth? |
| 19:13.36 | Xtek | KriLL3: We can do 3k reqs/sec with no issues. |
| 19:13.48 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: patches still get people to finally update |
| 19:13.52 | Shadowed | yea |
| 19:13.58 | Shadowed | But patches that break everything do more! |
| 19:14.02 | KriLL3 | I guess the updater tool also helps, less redundant pageviews etc |
| 19:14.10 | arkanes | why the heck am I getting a QUEST_COMPLETE event at login |
| 19:14.11 | Shadowed | stupid updater tools :< |
| 19:14.52 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r111 Modules/SkillWindow/MRTQueueWindow.lua: - Some basic changes to support queues in a later version. |
| 19:15.07 | Daemona | i guess the worst offender are people like me who just have to see if any of their 234597245 addons where updated and then update them on a daily base ;) |
| 19:15.11 | Belazor | arkanes: check to see if that also fires when you Hearthstone. If so, that would explain why Objective Announcer was spamming quest complete. If you find the cause, do tell XD |
| 19:15.16 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r112 / (7 files in 2 directories): - Some basic changes to support queues in a later version. |
| 19:15.20 | ckknight | KriLL3: I think the ads can support the bandwidth costs pretty easily, but not wages and such. |
| 19:15.34 | arkanes | Belazor: I misread the stack trace, it wasn't |
| 19:15.37 | MysticalOS | haha, "We are performing extended maintenance while we resolve some additional issues." |
| 19:15.38 | Belazor | o |
| 19:15.40 | chiper | hrm, what's the command for the current maintenance message? ~wowalert? |
| 19:15.43 | MysticalOS | who woulda guessed |
| 19:15.47 | KriLL3 | ckknight: well I meant more like 1:1 bandwidth and profit from ads, so it scales with traffic |
| 19:15.51 | Daemona | ~alert |
| 19:15.51 | purl | I'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons... |
| 19:15.52 | Shadowed | although |
| 19:16.02 | Shadowed | It doesn't usually help that a lot of people like to bump tocs and tag 3.3 versions |
| 19:16.08 | Shadowed | with no change beyond a toc bump :> |
| 19:16.14 | Daemona | hmm should be ~wowalert though |
| 19:16.17 | Daemona | ~wowalert |
| 19:16.18 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 19:16.21 | Daemona | there we go |
| 19:16.22 | MysticalOS | clicking "load out of date addons" is hard |
| 19:16.24 | Belazor | ckknight: I thought Curse staff were paid in souls of gnomes in anguish. |
| 19:16.30 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 07v0.6dev * r113 / (7 files in 2 directories): - Integrate from trunk into v0.6dev |
| 19:16.32 | ckknight | KriLL3: I believe so, yes. |
| 19:16.49 | Xtek | Belazor: Indeed. I had to pay my rent with dead gnome bodies this month. :( |
| 19:17.02 | KriLL3 | Xtek: your landlord is a troll? |
| 19:17.05 | Belazor | As long as they are good for something |
| 19:17.09 | Xtek | Sometimes. |
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| 19:17.21 | Daemona | so you are the one to bug if we want some MRTG gfx of bandwidth usage for addon downloads Xtek ? ;) |
| 19:17.47 | Belazor | theres 2 reasons why I would want to FC to Horde: 1. Kill gnomes. and 2. Win BGs. |
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| 19:18.15 | KriLL3 | Belazor: well BG wins are about 50/50, though it ofc doesn't feel like that |
| 19:18.21 | KriLL3 | wins aren't very memorable |
| 19:18.26 | Xtek | Daemona: For I am just a lonely Orc at the office. |
| 19:18.29 | Belazor | they are if it's AB |
| 19:18.48 | Xtek | Patch days always make the office more lively-like. |
| 19:18.51 | Belazor | I think I have won 10 ABs out of like 100+ across all my chars |
| 19:19.11 | Daemona | haha twitter to the rescue |
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| 19:19.25 | genetik- | Belazor: random shit players are random |
| 19:19.34 | KriLL3 | Belazor: I win about 50% in AB |
| 19:19.39 | Daemona | #WoW Extended maintenance to resolve some issues. No estimate on realm availability, but will provide an update in approx 1 hour. Thank you. |
| 19:19.39 | KriLL3 | genetik-: yeah |
| 19:19.44 | Repo | 10yssequipmentbroker: 03yssaril 07master * v1.2.4 YssEquipmentBroker.toc: [+1 commit] works in 3.3 |
| 19:19.45 | genetik- | no strategical advantage for either faction, really |
| 19:19.50 | Repo | 10yssequipmentbroker: 03yssaril 04v1.2.4 * b2bca98 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.2.4 |
| 19:20.05 | KriLL3 | it's RNG, you might end up with a premade that's missing a guy all in best pvp gear, or you can end up with people in leveling blues and general retardedness |
| 19:20.13 | genetik- | also bots nowadays |
| 19:20.15 | Belazor | KriLL3: Not anymore |
| 19:20.16 | Repo | 10broker_uberinventory: 03S1nless * r30 ExaileBroker.toc: 3.3 update (toc) |
| 19:20.18 | KriLL3 | always been bots |
| 19:20.20 | KriLL3 | Belazor: ? |
| 19:20.29 | Belazor | premades only face other premades |
| 19:20.35 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 19:20.40 | genetik- | seems like more bots in non-40mans anymore |
| 19:20.51 | Belazor | I havent seen bots for ages tbh |
| 19:20.54 | KriLL3 | well still, you can end up with a bunch of people in really nice pvp gear and a brain in their skulls that works |
| 19:20.58 | KriLL3 | I have |
| 19:21.06 | Belazor | this is true |
| 19:21.12 | Belazor | but thats more luck than I got |
| 19:21.13 | Belazor | XD |
| 19:21.15 | KriLL3 | they tend to run around on their mount in a set path, or just stand in a corner somewhere |
| 19:21.20 | genetik- | i usually see one kind of bot that keeps getting stuck at blacksmith in AB |
| 19:21.28 | genetik- | running into a wall stuck behind a fence |
| 19:21.31 | genetik- | kind of funny |
| 19:21.36 | Belazor | Im in Reckoning BG on EU side, and Horde seems to own every BG except AV, and EotS |
| 19:21.39 | KriLL3 | they're most common in AV |
| 19:22.03 | KriLL3 | I'm feral, so humanoid tracking in catform, I can spot em easily on the minimap, and go and kill em |
| 19:22.21 | KriLL3 | they tend to stand on top of remote high hills, or inside the dwarf houses near stone hearth |
| 19:22.27 | KriLL3 | etc |
| 19:22.59 | Belazor | only reaosn why Id want to "bot" is cause my holy gear is shit, and I want epix |
| 19:23.22 | Belazor | but as I found out when I went into a bg in my 13k unbuffed health, horde do like to go for healer first :( |
| 19:23.32 | genetik- | guard blacksmith and farm HK |
| 19:23.42 | Belazor | or stables |
| 19:23.43 | Belazor | :p |
| 19:23.57 | genetik- | can get HK from other bases from blacksmith |
| 19:24.09 | Primer | I get my kid to to my bgs for me :) |
| 19:24.10 | Belazor | ye but bs is often either horde controlled or contested |
| 19:24.14 | Belazor | rofl |
| 19:24.24 | Belazor | I normally guard either stables or the small river north of stables, most of the time Im left alone |
| 19:24.32 | Belazor | but I mainly just do WG for its easy 20k honor |
| 19:24.59 | Belazor | and then try to do whatever is the daily BG |
| 19:25.07 | Primer | what do people use honor for nowadays other than buying epic gems? |
| 19:25.12 | Belazor | gear |
| 19:25.17 | Primer | seriously |
| 19:25.20 | arkanes | is AceTab deprecated? |
| 19:25.24 | Repo | 10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r147 / (3 files in 1 directory): FuBar_ConvergeFu: |
| 19:25.26 | Belazor | fuck arenas |
| 19:25.26 | Repo | + Changed: Updated Toc file for the release of patch 3.3. |
| 19:25.53 | Belazor | when rated BGs happens, youll see nobody gives a shit about the "e-sport" anymore |
| 19:25.59 | Repo | 10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant 04v3.60-release * r148 : FuBar_ConvergeFu: Tagging this as a proper release. |
| 19:26.04 | Arrowmaster | arkanes: yes |
| 19:26.07 | genetik- | i've been doing AB strictly for the reputation lately |
| 19:26.16 | arkanes | that explains why it seems to be busted |
| 19:26.23 | arkanes | Arrowmaster: whats the correct replacement? |
| 19:26.28 | Daemona | Primer if you are you better did for the last weeks, have to redo like every slot from agi/arp to ap/haste ;) |
| 19:26.31 | Arrowmaster | nothing |
| 19:26.34 | arkanes | hmm |
| 19:26.47 | Yssaril | lol ptr is still up if anyone needs to do last minute testing |
| 19:26.51 | KriLL3 | Belazor: ot |
| 19:26.56 | Primer | Daemona: I've been doing it ever chance I get, on 3 80s |
| 19:27.19 | Primer | Daemona: my JC dude is sitting 90 epic gems, 22 which are rubies |
| 19:27.23 | rhadamanthys | is there anyone that could help me a sec with a hit capping question for my addon? |
| 19:27.28 | Xtek | The system is down! |
| 19:27.30 | KriLL3 | it's nothing personal, but when I almost kill a really annoying guy and he gets healed just as I press the button for the killing blow, I see red and kill that healer rest of the game |
| 19:27.30 | Belazor | KriLL3: ? |
| 19:27.37 | genetik- | Primer: why sit on so many? |
| 19:27.38 | Belazor | rofl |
| 19:27.39 | KriLL3 | Belazor: ' and <enter> are too close |
| 19:27.46 | Primer | genetik-: meh, I'm rich |
| 19:28.03 | Primer | ICC just means the price will go back up again soon |
| 19:28.10 | Belazor | I just want a healing set so that I too can be unkillable in BGs |
| 19:28.10 | genetik- | true |
| 19:28.11 | Repo | 10fu-bar_recount-fu: 03Broliant * r81 / (2 files in 1 directory): FuBar_RecountFu: |
| 19:28.12 | Daemona | you are not funny Xtek ;) |
| 19:28.13 | Repo | - Updated TOC file "Interface" value to 30300 for the release of the 3.1 client patch. |
| 19:28.18 | quiescens | how dare they heal your targets |
| 19:28.23 | nevcairiel | 30300 for 3.1, eh? |
| 19:28.25 | genetik- | i've been trying to change my packrat ways lately |
| 19:28.30 | sylvanaar | brilliant |
| 19:28.37 | Fisker | ckknight |
| 19:28.40 | Fisker | my name is boxee |
| 19:28.44 | *** join/#wowace Mikk (n=Mikk@78-73-111-137-no162.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 19:28.44 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Mikk] by ChanServ |
| 19:28.47 | Belazor | 3.3 is 40000 didnt u gaiz gno |
| 19:29.07 | ckknight | Fisker: <3 boxxy |
| 19:29.09 | arkanes | well it looks like just removing all the references to AceTab works |
| 19:29.12 | Primer | Are there any changes that are substantial enough to warrant some sort of review before just blindly bumping the TOC version? |
| 19:29.16 | arkanes | I don't think I used the feature anyway |
| 19:29.17 | Repo | 10fu-bar_recount-fu: 03Broliant 04v3.11-release * r82 : FuBar_RecountFu: Tagging this as a proper release. |
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| 19:29.32 | arkanes | Primer: depends on what the addon does |
| 19:29.56 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: some random guy told said troll/idiot that he should delete system 32, so he did |
| 19:29.57 | p3lim | Any of you know where EyeTemplate is defined? |
| 19:29.57 | arkanes | PTRs are still up, no reason not to give it at least a cursory check |
| 19:30.00 | Primer | arkanes: well, from what I've been reading, mine doesn't touch anything new |
| 19:30.08 | arkanes | Primer: whats your addon? |
| 19:30.22 | Primer | arkanes: http://www.wowace.com/addons/flight-hud/ |
| 19:30.34 | arkanes | oh I'm sure thats fine |
| 19:30.43 | KriLL3 | weird addon |
| 19:31.04 | arkanes | but I'll test it anyway |
| 19:31.04 | Yssaril | Primer: ptr is still up go and test it :P |
| 19:31.04 | KriLL3 | what is it good for? |
| 19:31.04 | Primer | Yssaril: bah, then I'd have to copy my toon over |
| 19:31.05 | sylvanaar | i havent been able to install the ptr for a while |
| 19:31.45 | Fisker | Yssaril |
| 19:31.49 | Fisker | you wouldn't bring a Fisker down |
| 19:31.54 | rhadamanthys | is there anyone that could help me a sec with a hit capping question for my addon, rhadatip? |
| 19:32.11 | Primer | rhadamanthys: hey, rhadamanthys, it's me, Barfolomeu |
| 19:32.17 | rhadamanthys | woot! |
| 19:32.28 | sylvanaar | This code will give you access to the God of War III E3 demo. |
| 19:32.34 | quiescens | fight, fight |
| 19:32.34 | Primer | rhadamanthys: Not sure I can be of much help, but I did offer |
| 19:32.36 | Daemona | whats the issue, it's not like hitcaps have been known since they changed the caster hit cap |
| 19:32.36 | rhadamanthys | i actually mostly came to thanks you and vhaarr |
| 19:32.54 | Primer | rhadamanthys: well, I feel bad about calling your code "horrible" |
| 19:32.58 | Primer | I shouldn't have used that word |
| 19:33.00 | sylvanaar | have you guys played the GoW3 demo? |
| 19:33.13 | Primer | rhadamanthys: how has it been coming along? |
| 19:33.19 | arkanes | Primer: works fine |
| 19:33.45 | rhadamanthys | no worries, i always apreciate constructive criticism. actually, have you peeked at the current code? |
| 19:33.55 | Primer | arkanes: yeah, I expected that it'd be fine. Just never know...I've had to redo it a few times in the past when patches came around |
| 19:34.23 | Primer | rhadamanthys: I have not. I had kept an eye on the comment thread on the addon page, but it stopped |
| 19:34.24 | p3lim | Any of you in what file EyeTemplate is defined? |
| 19:35.19 | rhadamanthys | the current version has all your suggestions, item caching, all local functions and replaced the calls to the most heavy api with ligher ones, using getitemstats etc |
| 19:35.58 | Primer | ahh yes, GetItemStats() was the one I figured would have taken you the longest time to implement |
| 19:36.01 | Primer | that's good |
| 19:36.23 | rhadamanthys | what i found strange about it is that it doesnt include enchants and gems |
| 19:36.41 | rhadamanthys | which ironically was better for me if anything |
| 19:37.22 | Primer | I've never used it, so I didn't know that either |
| 19:37.36 | Primer | but it makes sense |
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| 19:39.22 | Primer | So what kind of help do you need regarding hit? |
| 19:39.32 | rhadamanthys | if you want to take a peek at the new one, maybe i can improve it even more. but yes, back on topic |
| 19:39.48 | genetik- | p3lim: looks like FrameXML/Minimap.xml |
| 19:39.49 | rhadamanthys | i wanted to change the way it works. atm its an hard cap |
| 19:40.19 | Primer | so you want to vary it by class? |
| 19:40.25 | Primer | and talents, etc? |
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| 19:41.00 | rhadamanthys | so so, say that at the moment it is: TotalGearDps = TotalGearDps+tierBonusesDps+(excessHit*(HIT_SCALE or 0))+(excessExpertise*(EXPERTISE_SCALE or 0)) |
| 19:41.40 | rhadamanthys | it is evaluating each item considering the full hit contribution, but when computing the sum of the whole gear, it removes the excess hit times the hit scale |
| 19:41.49 | rhadamanthys | thus making every point of hit past the cap worth 0 |
| 19:42.16 | Daemona | perhaps you could just inverse the estimation |
| 19:42.24 | Daemona | how much dps would you loose if you didn't have that hit |
| 19:42.34 | Fisker | slaps Daemona around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:42.36 | Fisker | you. |
| 19:42.42 | arkanes | you probably want to calculate an individual items contribution by calculating total DPS with and without that item and taking the difference |
| 19:43.13 | arkanes | that's still not going to be fully indicative of hit caps but it's closer than not |
| 19:43.20 | Daemona | Fisker me? |
| 19:43.23 | Daemona | errr hands off |
| 19:43.38 | rhadamanthys | the way it is now works just fine for soft caps...but i wanted to change it to support soft caps |
| 19:43.42 | arkanes | bear in mind that for many classes there are multiple caps |
| 19:43.51 | rhadamanthys | this is what i had in mind: (excessHit * ( (HIT_SCALE or 0)-(HIT_SCALE_POST_CAP or 0) ) ) |
| 19:43.53 | Fisker | yes you Daemona |
| 19:44.28 | Daemona | Fisker what me? |
| 19:44.35 | rhadamanthys | so, say that pre soft cap hit scale is 4, and post is worth 1. every item value is evaluated using 4. then, say that the excess hit is 8 hit rating over the soft cap |
| 19:45.50 | rhadamanthys | what it would do is, instead of 8*4 (the current hard cap way), it would do 8*(4-1), thus making every point of hit past the cap worth 1 |
| 19:47.05 | KriLL3 | mmo-champ is feeling the DDoS atm =P |
| 19:47.13 | KriLL3 | getting slower |
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| 19:48.24 | genetik- | rss ftw |
| 19:49.06 | Shefki | You know I'd like to see a patch day actually go according to plan and be up on time just once. |
| 19:49.18 | Mikk | It happens all the time in EU! |
| 19:49.30 | Shefki | In the US. |
| 19:49.42 | rhadamanthys | the only issue with it is that all of the excessHit will be weighted with the post softcap scale. but is there any class that has a hit soft cap and a hit hard cap so close that with 1 item it can go from below the soft one to above the hard one? |
| 19:50.10 | arkanes | unlikely |
| 19:50.19 | Mikk | maybe enh shamans with an excessively huge +hit item.. like the 245 trinket |
| 19:50.22 | arkanes | (but theres more than 1 soft cap) |
| 19:50.25 | KriLL3 | Mikk: it's because the US tests the deployment for us, so it's smoother in the EU |
| 19:50.33 | asmodai | everytime I see rhadamanthys I get flashbacks to Saint Seiya |
| 19:50.37 | Mikk | KriLL3: i know, and i'm not complaining =) |
| 19:50.49 | KriLL3 | I approve |
| 19:50.49 | arkanes | are there classes that have talents or debuffs that give spell hit but not melee ht? |
| 19:51.04 | Shefki | Frankly I think they should deploy for everyone on the same day, though it's probably not very realisitc. |
| 19:51.08 | Mikk | boomkin/sp +3% spellhit debuff on target |
| 19:51.11 | rhadamanthys | it is taken from saints! yes there are more softcaps, but the important thing is that a user can never get from below it to above the next |
| 19:51.22 | asmodai | rhadamanthys: Oh seriously? Hahaha, cool. |
| 19:51.23 | arkanes | so you'd need 3% hit on a single item |
| 19:51.34 | Mikk | the 245 trinket is more than that |
| 19:51.39 | arkanes | to take you from the yellow cap to over the spell hit cap |
| 19:51.39 | Mikk | but that's about the only one i can think of |
| 19:51.47 | Fisker | they wouldn't nerf a trinket |
| 19:51.48 | Fisker | :( |
| 19:51.55 | asmodai | They would. |
| 19:51.58 | KriLL3 | pfft |
| 19:52.03 | Fisker | i don't see why they don't do the same to dual-blade butcher |
| 19:52.05 | rhadamanthys | from below the yellow to above the hit? |
| 19:52.10 | asmodai | I emailed them and they said: "Fisker? Oh, he's getting nerfed." |
| 19:52.18 | hypetech | rhada: with my mage I can swap my belt and wand to go almost perfectly +3% hit |
| 19:52.29 | arkanes | more than 3%, really |
| 19:52.40 | KriLL3 | did you see what they did to druid's flying idol? |
| 19:52.42 | Fisker | i survived Nexus'd asmodai |
| 19:52.43 | Mikk | alliance has to deal with draenei auras too |
| 19:52.44 | Mikk | meh |
| 19:52.53 | Fisker | so i'm also surviving chillmaw'd i guess |
| 19:52.59 | KriLL3 | went from crop equivalent to dropping mana cost of flightform, slightly |
| 19:53.02 | arkanes | draeni auras affect both now, don't they? |
| 19:53.14 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:53.14 | rhadamanthys | yellow is like 8% and spell is 17% right? so dont you need an item with 9% hit to go from below yellow to past spell? |
| 19:53.16 | kadrahil | slaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:53.18 | Mikk | they do |
| 19:53.20 | Mikk | melee and spell |
| 19:53.33 | KriLL3 | Fisker: you don't know if you can solo chillmaw? or what? |
| 19:53.35 | arkanes | right, so that doesn't matter for this purpose |
| 19:53.36 | Mikk | just complaining that ideally you need kit for +1% hit +3% hit and +4% hit :P |
| 19:53.58 | Mikk | as a caster |
| 19:54.00 | arkanes | and right, i failed at math |
| 19:54.16 | arkanes | yellow cap is 9, I think |
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| 19:54.21 | Mikk | 8 |
| 19:54.28 | arkanes | hmm |
| 19:54.28 | Mikk | used to be 9 |
| 19:54.35 | Mikk | got changed to 8 with 3.0 |
| 19:54.43 | Mikk | though some say 8.2% |
| 19:54.48 | arkanes | so 9% hit, 3% for boomer becomes 6% |
| 19:54.54 | Mikk | errrr |
| 19:54.56 | Mikk | what |
| 19:54.57 | arkanes | on a single item |
| 19:55.09 | Mikk | boomkin debuff is spell only |
| 19:55.11 | Mikk | (& sp) |
| 19:55.12 | arkanes | you'd need a single item with 6% hit for it to take you from below the yellow cap to over the spell cap |
| 19:55.13 | rhadamanthys | is dark command/taunt a yellow attack? my dk with 9% hit misses sometimes |
| 19:55.16 | Mikk | you want the caster hit 17% |
| 19:55.31 | Mikk | rhadamanthys: more a question of is it physical or a spell |
| 19:55.34 | arkanes | rhadamanthys: taunts use spell hit |
| 19:55.41 | arkanes | which is irritating |
| 19:55.46 | rhadamanthys | yea |
| 19:55.57 | Mikk | yellow vs white is only relevant if you're dual wielding |
| 19:56.02 | KriLL3 | what is "yellow" in this context? |
| 19:56.08 | Mikk | idd they have the concepts confused |
| 19:56.16 | arkanes | no, you're the confused one :P |
| 19:56.18 | Mikk | no |
| 19:56.23 | arkanes | yes |
| 19:56.38 | Mikk | taunts are "yellow" |
| 19:56.40 | arkanes | no |
| 19:56.43 | Mikk | but they need 17% spellhit |
| 19:56.44 | arkanes | they use the spell hit table |
| 19:56.46 | Mikk | because it's a spell |
| 19:56.54 | KriLL3 | Mikk: which is stupid imo |
| 19:56.54 | Mikk | so therefore the word "yellow" is completely misused :P |
| 19:57.00 | arkanes | it's historical |
| 19:57.02 | arkanes | so deal with it |
| 19:57.07 | Fisker | no KriLL3 |
| 19:57.12 | Mikk | Fisker: please Fisker arkanes |
| 19:57.18 | Fisker | Chillmaw'd = killing alliance doing Chillmaw |
| 19:57.21 | KriLL3 | how many tanks get spell hit gear? |
| 19:57.30 | nevcairiel | there is only one hit |
| 19:57.32 | arkanes | theres no spell hit gear anymore |
| 19:57.37 | arkanes | some tanks glyph taunt |
| 19:57.38 | Mikk | yeah, paladins have the +hit on taunt glyph |
| 19:57.39 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 19:57.44 | KriLL3 | ferals also |
| 19:57.46 | rhadamanthys | also, expertise soft caps are just for tanks right? |
| 19:57.51 | arkanes | there's one for every tank |
| 19:57.52 | KriLL3 | don't know how much that is though |
| 19:57.52 | Primer | no |
| 19:58.00 | Mikk | expertise soft caps are only for melee attacking from behind |
| 19:58.04 | arkanes | rhadamanthys: there's a dodge cap, which is well known, and a parry cap which is less known |
| 19:58.15 | arkanes | normally, melee only care about the soft cap because they attack from behind |
| 19:58.22 | KriLL3 | arkanes: what is the dodge cap? |
| 19:58.27 | Mikk | 6.5% vs a +3 |
| 19:58.28 | arkanes | 6.5 |
| 19:58.28 | genetik- | 6.5% |
| 19:58.35 | steev_ | awesome |
| 19:58.36 | KriLL3 | eh? |
| 19:58.43 | steev_ | wine is now throwing an error when i try to log in |
| 19:58.44 | KriLL3 | I got almost 40% dodge |
| 19:58.52 | arkanes | this would be for PVE of course |
| 19:59.00 | Mikk | this is against a +3 pve mob |
| 19:59.04 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 19:59.07 | genetik- | oh, i thought you meant outgoing dodge |
| 19:59.10 | Mikk | obviously you would need a whole assload of expertise to hit YOU |
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| 19:59.16 | KriLL3 | what is 40% vs 80 against a 83? |
| 19:59.16 | steev_ | tanks need > 6.5% expertise, something more like 9% |
| 19:59.19 | rhadamanthys | wait. expertise negating dodge should be an hard cap for melee dps, since the bosses can only parry frontally |
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| 19:59.35 | Mikk | rhadamanthys: basically yeah |
| 19:59.38 | arkanes | the amount of parry bosses have varies and has never really been nailed down |
| 19:59.41 | steev_ | rhadamanthys: there's still 1% |
| 19:59.45 | Primer | heh, my DK tank is lacking in expertise and hit |
| 19:59.56 | Primer | which sucks for when Dark Command misses |
| 19:59.59 | steev_ | there is always a 1% chance of getting dodged, parried/blocked |
| 20:00.00 | arkanes | I've seen people stack up to 12-15% neglect |
| 20:00.05 | arkanes | steev_: no |
| 20:00.09 | steev_ | neglect? |
| 20:00.22 | arkanes | steev_: the thing that expertise provides is dodge/parry neglect |
| 20:00.36 | steev_ | arkanes: then explain how i'm getting dodged when i'm over hit and expertise cap? |
| 20:00.45 | arkanes | steev_: obviously you are not over the caps |
| 20:00.56 | Primer | I did finally get my last pieces from ToC 25 normal (since my DK is my alt and I ran my own pug) |
| 20:01.06 | steev_ | arkanes: 8.13% hit (with a draenei in the group) - and 37 expertise |
| 20:01.08 | arkanes | there's a few mobs that have exceptional abilities, too, but bosses don't |
| 20:01.09 | Primer | and I don't even get to enjoy it now that ICC is out...sigh... |
| 20:01.15 | genetik- | steev_: any fight in particular? |
| 20:01.16 | steev_ | 8.13%+draenei |
| 20:01.29 | steev_ | genetik-: always random, but they do occur - not often |
| 20:01.30 | arkanes | steev_: the draenei aura has a less than infinite range |
| 20:01.43 | steev_ | arkanes: he's standing ~2 feet from me |
| 20:01.45 | Mikk | lack of draenei aura woudlnt cause a dodge though |
| 20:01.48 | Mikk | it'd cause a miss |
| 20:01.49 | arkanes | also there's a few mechanics that show up as miss even when they don't |
| 20:01.56 | Primer | plus you still need to be in the same group, right? |
| 20:01.56 | steev_ | i'm a human dk, he's a draenei dk |
| 20:01.57 | arkanes | er, arent |
| 20:02.06 | Primer | it's not raid-wide |
| 20:02.09 | Mikk | yeah need same group |
| 20:02.10 | Mikk | but still |
| 20:02.12 | Mikk | wouldnt cause dodge |
| 20:02.16 | arkanes | sure |
| 20:02.17 | steev_ | we are melee (group 2) |
| 20:02.40 | steev_ | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sen%27jin&cn=Steev&gn=Cult+of+the+Dead+Cow |
| 20:02.40 | arkanes | then you either didn't see a dodge, or circumstances where not what you thought, or you're fighting a mob with unusual levels of defense |
| 20:02.43 | Mikk | and yeah 37 expertise should make +3 mobs unable to dodge you so eh wtf |
| 20:02.50 | Mikk | what arkanes said |
| 20:02.56 | steev_ | sorry - 8.17% |
| 20:03.10 | arkanes | I've done *millions* of hitcapped swings and never missed one |
| 20:03.52 | Mikk | steev_: possibly a mainhand vs offhand issue if one is boosted with a racial? |
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| 20:04.02 | Mikk | so like maybe it was your offhand white swing that got dodged? |
| 20:04.14 | steev_ | Mikk: possibly, if i was using 1h, but i'm using Justicebringer :) |
| 20:04.52 | arkanes | poor armory is glitching out |
| 20:04.58 | Primer | steev_: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Kaká |
| 20:05.07 | Primer | all 245, except for 1 trinket |
| 20:05.13 | steev_ | Primer: grats brah |
| 20:05.17 | Primer | too bad there's really no other good trinket |
| 20:05.36 | steev_ | actually, i think my tanking set is better than my dps set too |
| 20:05.39 | Primer | it's funny, I'm the second best geared toon in my guild, and that's my alt :) |
| 20:05.46 | steev_ | i think i have like a 200 trinket as well |
| 20:06.09 | steev_ | for tanking i mean |
| 20:06.11 | KriLL3 | who ever though it was a good idea to allow any char in a character name should have their real name '^´`:ified |
| 20:06.11 | Mikk | i would suggest that perhaps you should look for a guild that suits you better :P |
| 20:06.17 | Primer | 60% avoidance according to the tankspot macro |
| 20:06.32 | Primer | 41.5k HP unbuffed |
| 20:06.34 | Primer | /flex |
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| 20:06.40 | KriLL3 | same as me |
| 20:06.44 | Mikk | or maybe you're just really short on tanks ^^ |
| 20:06.55 | steev_ | yeah, im only at like 32k hp unbuffed - i need to drop skinning and take up jewelcrafting i think |
| 20:07.02 | Mikk | (my alt tank is pretty damn geared too tbh) |
| 20:07.07 | arkanes | heh I have more than you! |
| 20:07.09 | arkanes | (flex) |
| 20:07.50 | Primer | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Barfolomeu <-- my main. 3 pieces of 232 :( |
| 20:07.58 | arkanes | logged out in my heroic gear though so I can't show off |
| 20:08.06 | Shadowed | ~wowalert |
| 20:08.07 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 20:08.14 | KriLL3 | I wish the armory let you show your armor sets |
| 20:08.25 | Primer | yeah, that'd be nice |
| 20:08.30 | KriLL3 | so you don't need to log out to show another set of gear |
| 20:08.50 | Primer | check out my hit |
| 20:08.54 | arkanes | I'm going do drop a stam trinket for avoidance, though |
| 20:09.02 | Primer | 500! (19.06%) |
| 20:09.11 | Primer | arkanes: warrior? |
| 20:09.11 | arkanes | heh I barely have 2 :P |
| 20:09.15 | arkanes | paladin |
| 20:09.29 | arkanes | well, I'll see what ICC bosses to do me |
| 20:09.39 | Primer | arkanes: I understand that only warriors really benefit from avoidance, and that all other tanks need to stack stam still |
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| 20:09.45 | arkanes | we're a 10 man guild and I don't feel like I need 52k buffed health anymore |
| 20:09.51 | Primer | arkanes: but it seems that's changing in ICC |
| 20:10.01 | arkanes | Primer: all bosses benefit equally from stamina and avoidance |
| 20:10.04 | arkanes | er, tanks |
| 20:10.07 | KriLL3 | didn't blizz say that they want more hp and less avoidance in 3.3? |
| 20:10.13 | arkanes | warriors aren't special in that regard |
| 20:10.18 | KriLL3 | to make it smoother |
| 20:10.21 | arkanes | well, they're cutting avoidance by 20% |
| 20:10.22 | Primer | arkanes: see, I got called a noob for actually matching gem colors, and adding avoidance |
| 20:10.26 | arkanes | looks like stam is still scaling the same |
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| 20:10.47 | arkanes | Primer: depends on what content you're doing, but EH (mostly in the form of stam) is the most reliable way of staying alive |
| 20:10.55 | Primer | before I regemmed I had a good 2-3% more avoidance, but I'm a DK |
| 20:11.26 | Primer | holy shit, curse is showing a ton of addons to update |
| 20:11.26 | arkanes | consider that the 2 bosses who do really big melee damage in TOGC are gormok and anub, and you can't avoid either of their bursts |
| 20:11.51 | Mikk | blizzard can't get their wants straight |
| 20:12.01 | arkanes | avoidance is good on, say, twins, where it smooths out your damage intake and gives your healers a lot of leeway, which they'll need for healing the raid |
| 20:12.01 | Mikk | they're "unhappy about how everyone just goes for stam" |
| 20:12.11 | Primer | well, I was able to avoid Gormok's normal melee, which is where the stacking debuf comes from...right? |
| 20:12.12 | Mikk | so what do they do? -20% avoidance on everyone! |
| 20:12.20 | Mikk | making avoidance an even shitter relative stat |
| 20:12.30 | steev_ | Primer: no |
| 20:12.44 | arkanes | Mikk: it doesn't really |
| 20:12.51 | steev_ | i thought the debuff was unavoidable |
| 20:13.01 | Primer | I'd usually pop my Heart of Iron at the start of the fight, as I'd pick up first, and I noticed that it'd take me longer to get 2 stacks than other tanks |
| 20:13.03 | arkanes | impale is unavoidavle |
| 20:13.06 | genetik- | Mikk: not really.. it just lets them keep adding avoidance onto gear without getting everyone complete avoidance |
| 20:13.15 | Primer | perhaps I am mistaken :) |
| 20:13.16 | arkanes | Primer: it's every 10 seconds, like clock work |
| 20:13.33 | arkanes | Primer: if you're doing non-heroic mode he can be disarmed, and that will save an application |
| 20:13.34 | Mikk | it's "avoidable" in normal mode with disarm |
| 20:13.44 | Mikk | but no you can't dodge/parry/block it |
| 20:13.57 | arkanes | with enough rogues/warriors you can single tank it :) |
| 20:14.19 | Mikk | or tossing a hand of protection on the tank and instacancelling it |
| 20:14.38 | arkanes | thats risky though |
| 20:14.43 | MysticalOS | yeah you can cancel impale out with rogues and warriors rotating disarm, but heroic involes actual timing, as well as cooldowns for rising anger >=3 |
| 20:14.43 | Mikk | not really in normal ;) |
| 20:14.54 | Primer | speaking of that, I really need a macro to remove HoP |
| 20:14.56 | arkanes | well, depends on whether or not normal mode is progression for you |
| 20:15.00 | MysticalOS | fortunately rising anger is predictable, every 20.5 seconds a snobold spawns and casts it |
| 20:15.14 | Primer | as to this day I still don't know what the buff looks like in the myriad of buffs to click it |
| 20:15.15 | arkanes | I mean, I single tank him without any special tricks because we've got the DPS to drop him in 4 stacks anyway |
| 20:15.23 | Mikk | Primer: yes, you need a macro for it :P |
| 20:15.30 | arkanes | Primer: /cancelaura Hand of Protection |
| 20:15.36 | Primer | Mikk: happen to have it handy...I LOVE YOU |
| 20:15.42 | Primer | :) |
| 20:15.56 | MysticalOS | don't use an addon for auto cancel HoP, you'll regret it on anub |
| 20:16.00 | arkanes | add it to your heroic strike macro |
| 20:16.11 | Primer | good idea |
| 20:16.17 | Mikk | oooooooh |
| 20:16.26 | Mikk | nah then i'd just get confused on the pallydork |
| 20:16.37 | Mikk | yes i have too many tanks |
| 20:16.49 | Mikk | druid+paladin+warrior |
| 20:16.52 | Mikk | i refuse to roll a DK |
| 20:17.03 | Mikk | some other fucker can roll an alt tank :P |
| 20:17.11 | Repo | 10tributeloot: 03Euthy * r58 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update TOC for version 3.3.0 |
| 20:17.13 | Repo | Update version number to 1.1.3 |
| 20:17.14 | Repo | Ignore Emblem of Frost |
| 20:17.17 | MysticalOS | there are enough dks anyways |
| 20:17.22 | Mikk | also true |
| 20:17.22 | VonhintenHOME` | wait, you can disarm gormok to prevent his tank debuffs? |
| 20:17.28 | arkanes | VonhintenHOME`: on normal yeah |
| 20:17.29 | Mikk | VonhintenHOME`: on normal yes |
| 20:17.31 | MysticalOS | on normal yes |
| 20:17.34 | VonhintenHOME` | in in 25? |
| 20:17.37 | Mikk | yes |
| 20:17.37 | arkanes | yes |
| 20:17.47 | nevcairiel | just not in hard |
| 20:17.49 | VonhintenHOME` | wow, didn't know that |
| 20:17.50 | MysticalOS | disarm him right when timer is at like 1-2sec to maximize it |
| 20:18.04 | Repo | 10tributeloot: 03Euthy 04v1.1.13 * r59 : Tagging as v1.1.13 |
| 20:18.06 | VonhintenHOME` | cool, not that it's really needed, but W/E |
| 20:18.15 | MysticalOS | you can also cast levitate on ranged to make them immune to fire bombs, stand at MAX range of icehowls hit box to avoid knockback |
| 20:18.18 | MysticalOS | there are many tricks |
| 20:18.21 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, I knew that one |
| 20:18.31 | arkanes | I can't believe they never hotfixed that |
| 20:18.41 | MysticalOS | i'm surprised as well honestly |
| 20:18.44 | nevcairiel | levitate is considered an exploit right now, afaik |
| 20:18.44 | Primer | I think it adds a nice dynamic to the fight |
| 20:18.47 | MysticalOS | or hotfixed the twins interupt exploit |
| 20:18.48 | Primer | levitate, that is |
| 20:18.53 | VonhintenHOME` | I like the warlock hellfire with light aura on Valkyr's... |
| 20:18.56 | VonhintenHOME` | that's such crap |
| 20:19.05 | arkanes | which interrupt exploit is that? |
| 20:19.09 | VonhintenHOME` | and the DK unholy disease spread with crits on the PVP encounter |
| 20:19.14 | MysticalOS | the actual heal is cast .2 seconds before the shield |
| 20:19.15 | Mikk | huh hellfire? |
| 20:19.22 | MysticalOS | anyone with a boss mod and quick finger can interupt it |
| 20:19.23 | MysticalOS | through the shield |
| 20:19.23 | arkanes | MysticalOS: oh yeah I noticed that last run |
| 20:19.33 | VonhintenHOME` | Mikk, with light aura on, warlocks can artificially increase their buff count with hellfire |
| 20:19.39 | MysticalOS | our rogue hits it every time |
| 20:19.41 | Mikk | doh |
| 20:19.44 | MysticalOS | we don't even dps the shield, just dps the other one |
| 20:19.57 | arkanes | MysticalOS: I was in a pug and we didn't have the DPS for the shield, but the shield dropped a split second before the heal went off and we got the interrupt anyway |
| 20:20.19 | MysticalOS | try hitting interupt before the shield goes up, you have like .2 seconds to d it |
| 20:20.27 | arkanes | yeah i'll have someone try it |
| 20:20.46 | arkanes | honestly for guild runs the heals not anything that gives us problems anyway |
| 20:20.48 | VonhintenHOME` | or DK does 16k+ DPS on faction champs too, because of that ridiculous pestilence critting |
| 20:21.02 | arkanes | yeah they want to fix the DK disese thing, but they don't have tech for it |
| 20:21.16 | MysticalOS | our dks blow up dps on heroic anub |
| 20:21.20 | MysticalOS | FFB mages come in second |
| 20:21.41 | arkanes | I'm not sure how they'd fix it really |
| 20:21.51 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm usually #1 on dps on anub, on my rogue |
| 20:21.58 | VonhintenHOME` | but, I have FoK glyph |
| 20:21.59 | MysticalOS | lol when we did many whelps on ony |
| 20:22.02 | arkanes | maybe just get rid of pestilence spreading entirely |
| 20:22.05 | MysticalOS | our dks hit 179,000 dps |
| 20:22.21 | arkanes | buff blood boil up to a real standalone AOE |
| 20:22.37 | MysticalOS | but man both dks fell over |
| 20:22.41 | arkanes | heh |
| 20:22.43 | MysticalOS | then half the raid DCed |
| 20:22.50 | Belazor | arkanes: just what we need, more homogenisation of classes :p |
| 20:23.07 | MysticalOS | we pulled too many, apparently pulling 154 whelps is not good for lag |
| 20:23.15 | arkanes | meh pest is not really all that exciting |
| 20:24.04 | arkanes | did they fix DnD not counting as an AOE? |
| 20:24.23 | MysticalOS | lol "3:10 p.m. EST: Realms are still down, and the official WoW forums appear to be down as well. Expect some more downtime." |
| 20:24.31 | Killmore | We are in the final stages of resolving the issues. We will provide another update in about 1 hour. Thank you for your patience. |
| 20:24.31 | Killmore | less than a minute ago from CoTweet |
| 20:24.36 | MysticalOS | what's a patch day without the forums going down |
| 20:24.48 | steev_ | Primer: MysticalOS hah |
| 20:24.57 | steev_ | er |
| 20:24.58 | arkanes | def need a target cap on pestilence, if nothing else |
| 20:24.58 | steev_ | wtf |
| 20:25.04 | arkanes | surprised that didn't go in with 3.3 |
| 20:25.10 | steev_ | arkanes: meh |
| 20:25.18 | steev_ | if they are in range they get hit |
| 20:25.33 | arkanes | there's a reason for the AOE damage cap |
| 20:25.36 | steev_ | just like any other aoe |
| 20:25.47 | arkanes | perhaps you are not aware of the AOE damage cap then? :P |
| 20:26.21 | Hjalte | Can we be having issues with DR on adds on Anub-25 heroic? Sometimes the paladin stuns don't work. |
| 20:26.30 | arkanes | Hjalte: it's possible |
| 20:26.42 | arkanes | I don't think holy wrath can miss normally, I've certainly never seen it happen |
| 20:26.59 | steev_ | at least you guys get there |
| 20:27.06 | steev_ | we can't f'n get past FC |
| 20:27.12 | arkanes | unless someone is sticking it their rotation I dont know why it'd be a problem though |
| 20:27.16 | steev_ | we're lucky if we get 1 add down |
| 20:27.39 | arkanes | maybe one of them is just out of range of it? |
| 20:27.42 | Groktar | by "add down," do you mean you only interrupt one add? |
| 20:27.55 | arkanes | FC is a bitch and I hate it |
| 20:27.57 | steev_ | Groktar: no - i mean one of the 8 mobs dies, total |
| 20:28.07 | Groktar | boggle |
| 20:28.19 | arkanes | steev_: heroic or regular? |
| 20:28.19 | steev_ | i get extremely frustrated |
| 20:28.23 | steev_ | arkanes: heroic |
| 20:28.26 | steev_ | heroic 25 |
| 20:28.33 | arkanes | steev_: biggest thing is that everyone must move, all the time |
| 20:28.43 | steev_ | and then there's the bitching about it being a pvp fight and blah blah blah |
| 20:28.44 | arkanes | steev_: they hit way, way too hard for anyone to take more than a couple hits |
| 20:28.59 | steev_ | arkanes: its more than that with us though |
| 20:29.05 | arkanes | so you have to keep traps/totems down and always keep moving, even at the expense of interrupts and DSP |
| 20:29.30 | steev_ | feels like people don't try |
| 20:29.35 | arkanes | although that damn mage will still screw people up with just nothing |
| 20:29.58 | arkanes | 20k in a global from him, then he counters the incoming heal and finishes you off |
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| 20:30.13 | steev_ | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/8pcdd4l1tq0uncpq/dashboard/?enc=bosses&boss=34441 |
| 20:30.45 | arkanes | you can get RNG screwed really easily on that fight |
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| 20:30.54 | arkanes | we've got from 15 wipes on it to one shotting it week to week |
| 20:31.13 | KriLL3 | arkanes: make sure to equip your anti negative RNG items |
| 20:31.17 | arkanes | no kidding :( |
| 20:31.52 | arkanes | man you guys roll with a lot of pallies |
| 20:32.04 | steev_ | arkanes: i wish i knew what to do, i throw out suggestions (a lot from you guys in here that have done it) and they just get ignored |
| 20:32.16 | steev_ | eh, thats a light week |
| 20:32.21 | steev_ | we normally have 2 more |
| 20:32.24 | arkanes | steev_: it's a raid killer, I'm not gonna lie |
| 20:32.43 | arkanes | because people hate it so much, and its so demoralizing, and you can just get screwed so bad |
| 20:32.58 | arkanes | we nearly lost our MT over it :P |
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| 20:33.03 | steev_ | i don't hate it - i hate that people can't follow instructions :) |
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| 20:33.20 | Pneumatus | ... i can't believe people have problems with faction champs :o |
| 20:33.21 | Hjalte | Our warrior avoidance tank is dieing on Anub-25 heroic. It does seem to be when he is moving back with the adds. Any tips? |
| 20:33.29 | arkanes | people have to maintain awareness and always keep moving |
| 20:33.34 | Pneumatus | Hjalte: he shouldn't be moving |
| 20:33.36 | VonhintenHOME` | It's a good exercise to have everyone just spread out and try to survive in faction champs.. you'd be surprised how long the fight lasts when people stop clumping up and just avoid the damage |
| 20:33.38 | steev_ | i kept calling for indifferent to deathgrip the healer we were tryin to kill to get them away from the mobs cuz mine was on cooldown, and 0 responses |
| 20:33.46 | arkanes | Hjalte: if you move onto an ice patch, they'll get behind you and fuck yuou up |
| 20:33.54 | arkanes | Hjalte: get a slow or a stun on them, then move |
| 20:34.03 | Pneumatus | Hjalte: not any significant amount anyway, your rogues/hunters should be misdirect/ToT and your tank should be stood in place |
| 20:34.25 | Hjalte | Yeah, rogue and hunter are MD'ing, but we only have 2 hunters and 1 rogue. |
| 20:34.33 | steev_ | i tend to dg them and have the tank taunt off me once it gets there |
| 20:34.43 | Pneumatus | it's also important that you don't drop too many ice spheres, if adds get slowed on the way to the tank you get screwed over |
| 20:34.44 | arkanes | Hjalte: who do you have doing the interrupt? |
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| 20:34.57 | Hjalte | arkanes: Paladins doing Holy Wrath |
| 20:35.07 | Pneumatus | s/too many/any/ |
| 20:35.11 | Hjalte | We only have 1 ice sphere in P1 |
| 20:35.12 | arkanes | Hjalte: have the tank stand just outside the ice, shockwave them, then move onto the ice |
| 20:35.28 | arkanes | Hjalte: HoF him so he can position easily |
| 20:35.32 | chiper | some realms are online now |
| 20:36.15 | arkanes | tank them outside the ice until they start to burrow, so they don't burrow coming out of the stun |
| 20:36.19 | Pneumatus | our add tank took 290k damage total on sunday from burrowers |
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| 20:36.32 | arkanes | block is stupid on tem |
| 20:36.41 | steev_ | woo |
| 20:36.45 | Pneumatus | with 91.7% avoidance by the looks of it |
| 20:36.51 | arkanes | the difference between an unhittable warrior and anything else on 25 is just ridiculous |
| 20:36.54 | steev_ | bah, mal'ganis is up |
| 20:36.58 | Shadowed | Interface\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua:365: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'cursorOffset' (a nil value) |
| 20:36.59 | Shadowed | Time: 12/08/09 12:36:25 |
| 20:37.01 | Shadowed | thats what I liek to see on login |
| 20:37.03 | Pneumatus | he would have been capped, but that was probably a side/back hit or two |
| 20:37.09 | arkanes | and the difference between a paladin or said warrior on 10 is equally ludicrous |
| 20:37.27 | VonhintenHOME` | we're very specific on positioning.. we do it so the adds are just on the left side of the ice, so melee can hit everything, including anub, without touching ice |
| 20:37.29 | steev_ | wth? |
| 20:37.35 | steev_ | i just logged in and got a core hound pup |
| 20:37.37 | steev_ | pet |
| 20:37.52 | arkanes | 1 or even 2% belokw cap isn't going to mean you insta-die the way letting one get behind you will |
| 20:38.00 | Pneumatus | VonhintenHOME`: ditto, we have an ice gripped down right in the middle of the room on the edge of the circle on the floor, adds go towards the left side, anub on the right for cleave |
| 20:38.21 | Pneumatus | which means all the adds arrive at the same time |
| 20:38.24 | arkanes | in my experience the dangerous thing is if you're holding them and you try to back onto an ice patch |
| 20:38.40 | arkanes | because it'll slow you before it slows them, and they'll run right behind you |
| 20:38.45 | steev_ | wtf? |
| 20:38.51 | steev_ | Ignis is now a h daily? |
| 20:39.00 | arkanes | steev_: l2patchnotes! |
| 20:39.02 | nevcairiel | the dailys varies |
| 20:39.04 | Adremma | the dungeon dailies were replaced with raid weeklys |
| 20:39.08 | arkanes | heroic daily is gone, it's replaced with a raid weekly |
| 20:39.10 | VonhintenHOME` | our biggest problem is having a druid tank on Anub, his Maul 2nd hit can often pull an add off the add tank |
| 20:39.12 | Repo | 10handy-notes_vendors: 03zarevak 04v1.2.1 Release * r67 : Tagging as v1.2.1 Release |
| 20:39.13 | chiper | steev: read your patch notes foo |
| 20:39.16 | steev_ | arkanes: im on linux, i get 0 patchnotes because "javascript needs to be enabled" |
| 20:39.28 | nevcairiel | so read them on $page |
| 20:39.32 | VonhintenHOME` | Those mauls and beserked mangles can be ridiculously high threat, at the wrong time |
| 20:39.38 | steev_ | $page thats been down? |
| 20:39.40 | Repo | 10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak 04v1.1.13 Release * r53 : Tagging as v1.1.13 Release |
| 20:39.43 | steev_ | yeah, ill get right on that |
| 20:39.52 | arkanes | mmo-champ has been up this whole time |
| 20:39.55 | chiper | both mmo-champion and wow.com have the notes up |
| 20:40.05 | Repo | 10handy-notes_city-guide: 03zarevak 04v1.0.6 Release * r19 : Tagging as v1.0.6 Release |
| 20:40.10 | arkanes | besides, the raid weekly thing has been in the PTR notes for a month at least |
| 20:40.16 | Gnarfoz | <Shadowed> thats what I liek to see on login <-- you broek it? |
| 20:40.26 | arkanes | my server is down so I'm gonna log onto someone elses and contribute to their lag problem |
| 20:40.51 | MysticalOS | we yeled at our druid to remove his maul glyph |
| 20:41.10 | steev_ | Level 1 characters no longer start with food or water in their inventory. <-- BULLSHIT |
| 20:41.17 | steev_ | I WANT MY FOOD AND WATER BACK FUCKERS |
| 20:41.28 | genetik- | steev_: time to cancel your account over this injustice |
| 20:41.29 | arkanes | steev_: its okay, they buffed low level regen by like 5x |
| 20:41.34 | nevcairiel | the regenerate insanely fast, though |
| 20:41.38 | steev_ | Fisker: this is all your fault |
| 20:41.39 | nicoli_s | hey, not giving our food and water to new characters is gonna save blizz millions |
| 20:41.41 | chiper | I'm much more pissed that level 1 characters cant join raids |
| 20:41.51 | nicoli_s | out* |
| 20:41.53 | KriLL3 | for hogger? |
| 20:41.54 | nevcairiel | what do you want in raids? |
| 20:41.59 | genetik- | hogger raids |
| 20:42.00 | chiper | for any events |
| 20:42.06 | genetik- | gnome/tauren races |
| 20:42.10 | chiper | we occasionally do guild races |
| 20:42.17 | Killmore | some friend logged with the core hound pet in the mail |
| 20:42.27 | MysticalOS | level 15s and up can use ANY summoning stone. Only 15 months late on this feature |
| 20:43.08 | steev_ | booo |
| 20:43.26 | Killmore | got a core hound in my mail box and some of my friend no, dont understand why |
| 20:43.29 | VonhintenHOME` | garona's up |
| 20:43.35 | *** join/#wowace Larry (n=chatzill@c-71-192-250-227.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 20:43.54 | Whitetooth | Ner'zhul up! |
| 20:44.02 | arkanes | I want a core hound pet :( |
| 20:44.17 | MysticalOS | ah so is whisperwind |
| 20:44.28 | MysticalOS | now to see my lua errors at login |
| 20:45.02 | arkanes | Turalyons up |
| 20:45.12 | MysticalOS | still loading |
| 20:45.31 | arkanes | lag in level 1 zone was fine, lets see how dal is on patch day :( |
| 20:45.32 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r93 LibStatLogic-1.1.toc: - toc 30300 |
| 20:45.38 | MysticalOS | stuck at loading :( |
| 20:45.46 | Repo | 10libtiphooker-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r12 LibTipHooker-1.1.toc: - toc 30300 |
| 20:45.46 | steev_ | Killmore: same, i got one, but not on all my toons |
| 20:45.47 | Whitetooth | same :( |
| 20:46.01 | Xtek | Quickly, let's announce every server as they come up! |
| 20:46.10 | arkanes | Whitetooth: are you still maintaining ratingbuster? |
| 20:46.10 | KriLL3 | is core hound pet from some achievement? |
| 20:46.22 | Whitetooth | yeah it works just need a toc update |
| 20:46.22 | steev_ | KriLL3: i got mine on a level 71 paladin, i don't think so |
| 20:46.28 | arkanes | base stats changed |
| 20:46.32 | KriLL3 | steev_: eh? random? |
| 20:46.32 | ajmitch | writes something to screen-scrape the realm status page & spam it to irc |
| 20:46.34 | Killmore | steev_: got the pet on a brand new lvl1, hope I will get it on my main |
| 20:46.37 | MysticalOS | exalted with hydraxian? |
| 20:46.42 | MysticalOS | oh nevermind |
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| 20:46.51 | arkanes | is it a boa pet maybe? |
| 20:46.54 | steev_ | not sure, maybe its the 3.3 patch gift |
| 20:46.57 | arkanes | (crosses fingers) |
| 20:47.07 | KriLL3 | steev_: "sorry it took ages, here is a pet!" |
| 20:47.23 | steev_ | KriLL3: exactly! |
| 20:47.35 | KriLL3 | what if it doesn't take as long for the EU? no pet? :( |
| 20:47.35 | Killmore | no its a not a boa pet, one time use bop :( |
| 20:47.54 | arkanes | lets see how many of our guildies who stopped showing up for raids are on tonight expecting an ICC slot |
| 20:48.03 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 20:48.29 | ajmitch | checks our signup page, 27 so far |
| 20:48.47 | Whitetooth | I didn't get the pet :( |
| 20:49.04 | KriLL3 | Whitetooth: you know why? |
| 20:49.13 | Whitetooth | no idea |
| 20:49.17 | KriLL3 | blizzard hates you, deal with it |
| 20:49.23 | Whitetooth | qq |
| 20:49.30 | KriLL3 | well they hate me more |
| 20:49.43 | KriLL3 | had to do 43 ToC HC runs to get marrowstrike |
| 20:49.55 | Whitetooth | at least I got [It's Over Nine Thousand!] :D |
| 20:49.56 | chiper | I'm hearing from elsewhere that the core hound is going to people with authenticators |
| 20:49.58 | chiper | confirm? |
| 20:50.11 | nevcairiel | heh nice |
| 20:50.12 | KriLL3 | forty-third time lucky |
| 20:50.26 | ajmitch | what a nasty way to encourage people to get authenticators :) |
| 20:50.42 | chiper | anybody get one who doesn't have an authenticator? |
| 20:50.54 | chiper | (if this is true, i should have a pup waiting for me when i get home) |
| 20:51.22 | KriLL3 | can you even get an authenticator outside the US? |
| 20:51.28 | genetik- | yes |
| 20:51.31 | *** join/#wowace Schnaks (n=Schnaks@p5486ACC5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:51.32 | asmodai | has an authenticator |
| 20:51.34 | KriLL3 | not seen one |
| 20:51.38 | *** join/#wowace Ghli_ (n=Ghli_@32.155.82.34) |
| 20:51.44 | asmodai | was sent from Blizz, DE |
| 20:51.59 | genetik- | KriLL3: http://eu.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=221003132 |
| 20:52.03 | chiper | got mine at 2008 blizzcon |
| 20:52.05 | KriLL3 | <3 armory, "You have encountered an error." ohrly? |
| 20:52.20 | asmodai | KriLL3: Polite way of saying "I failed you!" |
| 20:52.44 | KriLL3 | asmodai: no the polite way would be committing sepukku and not staining your floor in doing so |
| 20:53.27 | asmodai | omg, someone using seppuku and not harakiri. There's hope for the world after all |
| 20:54.23 | Arrowmaster | i used to have a sepukku macro on my warlock |
| 20:54.48 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r253 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:54.50 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 20:54.55 | nevcairiel | spam ^ |
| 20:54.58 | Repo | 10libbabble-creaturetype-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r70 LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0.toc: |
| 20:55.03 | KriLL3 | did you equip a sword and then kill yourself? |
| 20:55.03 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 20:55.12 | Repo | 10libbabble-inventory-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r99 LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.toc: |
| 20:55.14 | Arrowmaster | no lifetap and hellfire |
| 20:55.18 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 20:55.24 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 20:55.27 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r104 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.toc: |
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| 20:55.36 | KriLL3 | "I'm taking you motherfudgers with me!" |
| 20:55.39 | Repo | 10libbabble-race-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r20 LibBabble-Race-3.0.toc: |
| 20:55.41 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 20:55.48 | Repo | 10libbabble-talenttree-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r28 LibBabble-TalentTree-3.0.toc: |
| 20:55.49 | asmodai | nevcairiel: <3 |
| 20:55.52 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 20:55.57 | nevcairiel | wait, there is more! |
| 20:55.59 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r246 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:56.01 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 20:56.04 | Arrowmaster | ive killed myself so many different ways on my warlock |
| 20:56.08 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.3-release1 * r254 : Weekly Tag - Week 1 |
| 20:56.14 | Arrowmaster | did you know you used to be able to kill yourself with health funnel |
| 20:56.14 | Repo | 10libbabble-race-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.3-release1 * r21 : Weekly Tag - Week 1 |
| 20:56.19 | Repo | 10libbabble-creaturetype-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.3-release1 * r71 : Weekly Tag - Week 1 |
| 20:56.22 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.3-release1 * r105 : Weekly Tag - Week 1 |
| 20:56.25 | nevcairiel | i decided to change the tag name now to include the client version :P |
| 20:56.26 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: yes :( |
| 20:56.28 | Repo | 10libbabble-inventory-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.3-release1 * r100 : Weekly Tag - Week 1 |
| 20:56.30 | Repo | 10libbabble-talenttree-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.3-release1 * r29 : Weekly Tag - Week 1 |
| 20:56.31 | MysticalOS | :o |
| 20:56.33 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.3-release1 * r247 : Weekly Tag - Week 1 |
| 20:56.36 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r271 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Update toc to 30300 |
| 20:56.37 | Repo | - Prepare for 1.4.8 release |
| 20:56.46 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: That was "funny". |
| 20:56.53 | MysticalOS | nev spam attack |
| 20:56.57 | asmodai | My life for Ner'zhul! |
| 20:57.02 | KriLL3 | I like using barkskin + survival instincts + frenzied regeneration + enrage + berserk, and spamming the mangle & maul buttons (3 targets, 2 targets) |
| 20:57.14 | KriLL3 | sure might not kill em, but they'll be hurtin' |
| 20:57.50 | KriLL3 | I killed 2 rogues + a warrior with that stack of buffs |
| 20:58.05 | KriLL3 | (admittedly not the best geared player in the world, but still) |
| 20:58.13 | KriLL3 | *players |
| 20:58.37 | asmodai | WTB decent guild |
| 20:59.50 | asmodai | If a guild has a retarded name, it's fair to assume the people in it are probably not up to snuff either, right? |
| 20:59.58 | nevcairiel | want my hardware to arrive tomorrow already! |
| 21:00.03 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Well you cannot have it. |
| 21:00.06 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: want my hardware paid for! |
| 21:00.13 | nevcairiel | but its already in shipping |
| 21:00.16 | nevcairiel | there is a chance |
| 21:00.56 | nevcairiel | asmodai: yeah guilds or even people with retarded names usually are the same |
| 21:01.53 | Adys | ~winterbells |
| 21:01.54 | purl | it has been said that winterbells is at http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/g3/bells.htm |
| 21:01.54 | asmodai | ok, so how can you determine a bit if a guild's at least decent? my last few picks really landed me in some so-so guilds |
| 21:01.58 | Adys | runs off with a cackle |
| 21:02.23 | nevcairiel | asmodai: i wish i knew, all the time i actively played i was in *one* guild which i was a founding member of |
| 21:02.33 | *** join/#wowace chiper_ (n=chiper@wsip-70-183-99-102.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 21:02.42 | VonhintenHOME` | hey nev, there any issues you're aware of with BT4? Having issues with my bars not showing up (out of date addons loaded) |
| 21:02.53 | nevcairiel | VonhintenHOME`: still on 3.2? :P |
| 21:02.55 | asmodai | guess the guild on the other server spoilt me |
| 21:03.21 | nevcairiel | my guild was more like a family, all was friendly, yet we were decent raiders |
| 21:03.24 | VonhintenHOME` | Oh, not been updated for 3.3 yet? |
| 21:03.33 | KriLL3 | ... |
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| 21:03.42 | nevcairiel | during classic #1, in tbc fighting for #1, but mostly #2 in the end |
| 21:03.43 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Yeah, like the one I had on Thunderhorn. |
| 21:03.47 | nevcairiel | in wotlk it went all down hill |
| 21:03.48 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: he's on comcast, he's in the US |
| 21:04.02 | KriLL3 | he's in florida |
| 21:04.10 | nevcairiel | VonhintenHOME`: it has, did you update? :D |
| 21:04.21 | Groktar | cc gave it to me >.> |
| 21:04.23 | KriLL3 | VonhintenHOME`: you really should hide your IP |
| 21:04.24 | VonhintenHOME` | I did, will check if there's more recent |
| 21:04.30 | VonhintenHOME` | why? |
| 21:04.31 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: i don't randomly whois people just to see where they are =P |
| 21:04.49 | KriLL3 | VonhintenHOME`: well we can haxx j00, and you know, you'll die from your CPU exploding |
| 21:05.02 | VonhintenHOME` | you'll have to get past my hardware firewall first :) |
| 21:05.17 | Hjalte | When using a warrior avoidance tank on Anub25 heroic, will he sometimes just die? We're still having problems with him just dieing in less than one second. |
| 21:05.29 | Groktar | usually means an add got behind him |
| 21:05.32 | nevcairiel | Anyway, if bars don't show up, you'll have some sort of error showing somewhere. |
| 21:05.34 | Groktar | or he's not capped |
| 21:05.46 | Arrowmaster | ive been in i guess 3 guilds, the one that i got invited to right after i hit 60 and accepted because they said they were doing ZG, and one of the guilds in the MC alliance that guild was in, although the 2nd guild reformed and merged and reformed a number of times but when it finally died in 2.4.3 i was still playing with some of the same people that were in my very first MC raid, then there was the sun |
| 21:05.52 | Arrowmaster | well guild some of the people joined that i joined but they kicked me out in january when i stopped showing up to naxx raids because they wouldnt invite me |
| 21:06.09 | VonhintenHOME` | nev, yeah, quite a few errors, haven't looked through yet to see if any are BT.. could be something else borking it all up too |
| 21:06.37 | Groktar | i'd guess something else |
| 21:06.56 | Groktar | since the 3.2 bt wasn't throwing me errors on ptr |
| 21:06.59 | chiper_ | any alchemists online that can check if transmute titanium is missing from their crafting window? |
| 21:07.13 | nevcairiel | the 3.2 bt will only error if you use the micromenu |
| 21:07.22 | steev_ | hrm |
| 21:07.22 | Gnarfoz | Adys: I hate you |
| 21:07.28 | nevcairiel | the 3.3 bt will error on 3.2 no matter what .P |
| 21:07.29 | steev_ | so im still stuck at the load screen |
| 21:07.44 | *** join/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@188-23-222-242.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 21:07.48 | steev_ | have been for the past 15 minutes |
| 21:07.56 | VonhintenHOME` | hmm, button facade maybe.. I'm running external libs atm |
| 21:08.05 | nevcairiel | hm bf is broken? |
| 21:08.06 | Groktar | same here steev |
| 21:08.09 | nevcairiel | worked fine on PTR |
| 21:08.12 | Groktar | really? |
| 21:08.16 | Groktar | bf raped me on the ptr |
| 21:08.34 | Groktar | i remember my ui was fubar with it, but not precisely how |
| 21:08.44 | nevcairiel | I just symlinked my live addon folder over |
| 21:08.49 | nevcairiel | it has BF and it worked |
| 21:09.03 | Groktar | could it be a problem with specific bf themes? |
| 21:09.11 | nevcairiel | maybe, but kidna unlikely |
| 21:09.15 | nevcairiel | unless they use something weird |
| 21:09.22 | asmodai | ye gods, wat een lag fest |
| 21:09.30 | Groktar | lags asmodai wildly |
| 21:09.36 | Groktar | take THAT |
| 21:09.37 | VonhintenHOME` | ...ade\Libs\LibButtonFacade-1.0\LibButtonFacade-1.0.lua line 630: |
| 21:09.37 | VonhintenHOME` | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.48 | nevcairiel | i see |
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| 21:10.23 | *** join/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 21:10.23 | nevcairiel | it was fixed, get the alpha |
| 21:10.27 | nevcairiel | i'll see about a tag |
| 21:10.30 | VonhintenHOME` | oh |
| 21:10.33 | VonhintenHOME` | will do |
| 21:11.00 | nevcairiel | oh wait it doesnt have alphas |
| 21:11.01 | nevcairiel | doh |
| 21:11.19 | nevcairiel | ah but he tagged it |
| 21:11.25 | nevcairiel | the 3.3.300 beta should work |
| 21:12.15 | nevcairiel | thats why i didnt have issues, i svn update :P |
| 21:12.53 | genetik- | weird.. AQ gates are closed on my server, but can't do anything with the gong |
| 21:12.53 | steev_ | damn it, no Uld 10 for me this weekend |
| 21:12.55 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: did you just change something to the layout of the page? my skin seems to have a glitch now |
| 21:13.51 | MysticalOS | voh just open file and change "GetFrameType" to "GetObjecType" |
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| 21:14.09 | nevcairiel | It was changed, just need to get the beta |
| 21:14.10 | MysticalOS | ick typo |
| 21:14.17 | MysticalOS | GetObjectType |
| 21:14.18 | MysticalOS | heh |
| 21:15.39 | VonhintenHOME` | fyi ...erface\AddOns\Ace2\AceConsole-2.0\AceConsole-2.0.lua line 2582: |
| 21:15.39 | VonhintenHOME` | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.04 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r267 / (8 files in 2 directories): 3.3 compatibility release |
| 21:16.42 | nevcairiel | same error, update too |
| 21:16.59 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou 043.3 r1 * r268 : tag as 3.3 release 1 |
| 21:18.05 | nevcairiel | i bumped the latest ace2 to release so people get it, too |
| 21:18.10 | nevcairiel | but not .toc bumping it :P |
| 21:18.31 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: nope |
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| 21:19.04 | nevcairiel | hm weird then |
| 21:20.13 | Trela | YAR! |
| 21:21.08 | KriLL3 | blizz really should add mounts to the dressing room, use the model shown in the companions UI |
| 21:21.29 | KriLL3 | you on it would be optional, yes if it isn't hard |
| 21:23.43 | Antiarc | Man, todayi s gonna suck |
| 21:23.50 | Antiarc | I have to fix all the mods I own |
| 21:23.51 | asmodai | Antiarc: Why? :D |
| 21:23.53 | steev_ | god i want to stab my boss sometimes |
| 21:23.55 | Antiarc | Because I was too busy to do that on the PTR |
| 21:23.57 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 21:24.03 | Repo | 10libalts-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r21 LibAlts-1.0.toc: TOC 30300 |
| 21:24.06 | Antiarc | WHY SEXYMAP NO WORKZ :( |
| 21:24.07 | Shadowed | Antiarc you don't have to |
| 21:24.13 | Shadowed | just leave them broken and let someone else fix them |
| 21:24.21 | hypetech | My sexymap works fine |
| 21:24.22 | asmodai | files tickets |
| 21:24.23 | asmodai | :P |
| 21:24.23 | nevcairiel | Its always funny how people say that |
| 21:24.24 | Antiarc | But then people bitch at me and don't submit patches |
| 21:24.32 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
| 21:24.36 | Shadowed | I was going to bitch at you but I'm lazy |
| 21:24.36 | nevcairiel | You're busy the last month, but today of all days you have the time? :P |
| 21:24.36 | Fisker | Sexymap doesn't work |
| 21:24.36 | Antiarc | Hey Fisker |
| 21:24.42 | VonhintenHOME` | ..\AddOns\SexyMap\General.lua line 284: |
| 21:24.42 | VonhintenHOME` | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.51 | VonhintenHOME` | clearly the watch frame! |
| 21:24.52 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: Actually, yes. I worked 110 hours last week finishing a dev cycle. |
| 21:24.56 | Antiarc | HOLY SHIT |
| 21:25.01 | Antiarc | BLUE BAR BOSS DEFEATED |
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| 21:25.03 | hypetech | What about it is broken? I was just in game and my sexymap didn't seem broken :( |
| 21:25.07 | Groktar | questions Antiarc's sanity |
| 21:25.19 | Antiarc | I dunno |
| 21:25.22 | Antiarc | People just yell at me |
| 21:25.24 | KriLL3 | Groktar: there is none there to answer. |
| 21:25.30 | Antiarc | I say "yeah yeah yeah, I'll fix it" |
| 21:25.38 | Antiarc | AUGH |
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| 21:25.42 | Antiarc | Why am I being spammed with tips? |
| 21:25.47 | Antiarc | There's no option to turn them off |
| 21:25.53 | VonhintenHOME` | Well, they did do a lot of work on the quest tracking frame, and that was linked to the minimap frame |
| 21:25.55 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 21:25.58 | nevcairiel | yeah those can be annoying |
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| 21:26.03 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: you seem to have obtained a mount, do you want to know how to use it? |
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| 21:26.15 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: Bartender isn't showing up for me |
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| 21:26.33 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: your blatant insanity drove it away |
| 21:26.37 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: yeah yeah yeah, I'll fix it |
| 21:26.38 | Antiarc | Ah, it may be button facade |
| 21:26.38 | nevcairiel | hides |
| 21:26.43 | Antiarc | *Stab* |
| 21:26.51 | Repo | 10wholib: 03sylvanaar * r108 LibWho-2.0.toc: TOC 30300 |
| 21:26.53 | nevcairiel | but yeah, update button facade to the beta |
| 21:27.08 | KriLL3 | another bonus of patching a day after the US, more addons are fixed when we get the patch :D |
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| 21:27.11 | nevcairiel | if it still doesnt work then, i'll fix it tomorrow when i get the final patch |
| 21:27.14 | nevcairiel | worked fine on ptr :( |
| 21:27.27 | Shadowed | I will reiterate what I said a few days ago |
| 21:27.31 | Shadowed | Button Facade is evil |
| 21:27.36 | KriLL3 | clearly |
| 21:27.44 | nevcairiel | its alot better then cyCircled |
| 21:27.47 | nevcairiel | and people want button art |
| 21:27.55 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, it was button facade doing it |
| 21:27.58 | VonhintenHOME` | bars are back |
| 21:28.43 | asmodai | Shadowed: Why's? :D |
| 21:28.49 | VonhintenHOME` | whoa... DC'd from server |
| 21:29.02 | Groktard | yay! |
| 21:29.11 | Groktard | if i can't have wow, then i don't want you to have wow, either |
| 21:29.15 | Antiarc | LibButtonFacade-1.0-?:630: attempt to call method 'GetFrameType' (a nil value) |
| 21:29.15 | Antiarc | LibButtonFacade-1.0-?:692: in function `AddButton' |
| 21:29.16 | KriLL3 | VonhintenHOME`: welcome to patch day |
| 21:29.24 | asmodai | Jesus, why the hell is this EU server so slow |
| 21:29.44 | Shadowed | Because last I looked, it's setup for actual buttons |
| 21:29.50 | Shadowed | but pretty much everyone uses it to skin everything with a border |
| 21:29.53 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: yeah update to the 3.3.300-Beta of BF |
| 21:30.16 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: i just use it for buttons :( |
| 21:30.28 | KriLL3 | Shadowed: yeah it should have borders etc |
| 21:30.30 | Shadowed | Yea but it's used in things like aura borders |
| 21:30.35 | Shadowed | and people always request it |
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| 21:30.56 | nevcairiel | just because people ask about silly stuff doesnt make the product silly |
| 21:31.01 | asmodai | Antiarc: But we love you because you are such a responsible addon author |
| 21:31.06 | Antiarc | Hrm |
| 21:31.09 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 21:31.11 | Antiarc | I don't have a copy of the addon kit on this machin |
| 21:31.13 | Shadowed | nevcairiel authors implement it too :p |
| 21:31.15 | Antiarc | And the WoW site is down |
| 21:31.18 | Shadowed | STUF has buttonfacade support for example |
| 21:31.28 | Shadowed | Antiarc http://www.github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source |
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| 21:31.36 | Antiarc | Thanks |
| 21:31.37 | nevcairiel | wtf is STUF? |
| 21:31.38 | Antiarc | Perfect |
| 21:31.49 | Shadowed | Stellar Unit Frames |
| 21:31.54 | nevcairiel | never heard :P |
| 21:31.55 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: STFU with a typo |
| 21:32.04 | VonhintenHOME` | it's stellar... dude |
| 21:32.14 | nevcairiel | But some authors seem to live to just implement *every* feature request they see |
| 21:32.23 | steev_ | wow |
| 21:32.26 | steev_ | im liking the new map |
| 21:32.31 | steev_ | with the built in questhelper |
| 21:32.34 | Shadowed | true |
| 21:32.48 | Shadowed | but most of what I've seen is it's something that is used poorly |
| 21:32.50 | steev_ | disliking pminimap being broken |
| 21:32.59 | Shadowed | I still need to find out what the new quest data is missing so I can replace QH |
| 21:33.02 | nevcairiel | I want to rewrite some parts of Bartender, but i really shouldnt, should rather use the time for my thesis :( |
| 21:33.09 | VonhintenHOME` | I didn't see the new map interface, possible that Mapster is busted? |
| 21:33.09 | Belazor | can i has a patch for EU nao? |
| 21:33.13 | hypetech | thesis shemsis |
| 21:33.15 | MysticalOS | random dungeons through new LFG give explorers league rep huh? |
| 21:33.16 | hypetech | shmesis* |
| 21:33.18 | nevcairiel | VonhintenHOME`: mapster was updated |
| 21:33.26 | hypetech | mysticalos: it was giving me sunreavers |
| 21:33.30 | Belazor | nevcairiel: you can always retake the course later, theres people who depend on BT4! |
| 21:33.38 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r269 .pkgmeta: |
| 21:33.39 | Repo | update pkgmeta to revert AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets to SVN repository |
| 21:33.43 | sylvanaar | if you rewrite it will it do anything new? |
| 21:33.54 | nevcairiel | course? its my freaking bachelor thesis :P |
| 21:34.01 | Belazor | year then |
| 21:34.12 | Belazor | also what the fuck kinda bachelor requires a thesis |
| 21:34.23 | sylvanaar | german one |
| 21:34.33 | nevcairiel | obviously! |
| 21:34.40 | Belazor | I so want to add in a joke about a certain book, but I shouldn't :p |
| 21:34.40 | Thaoky | what are you studying nev ? :) |
| 21:35.00 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Did you change LibWho to take into account cross-server party members? |
| 21:35.01 | nevcairiel | comp-sci/Software Dev |
| 21:35.05 | sylvanaar | no |
| 21:35.11 | sylvanaar | i changed the toc lol |
| 21:35.16 | Torhal | Heh |
| 21:35.18 | nevcairiel | but yeah, the rewrite is supposed to do some new stuff |
| 21:35.32 | nevcairiel | i want to finally tackle non-action-based bars |
| 21:35.42 | nevcairiel | locally saved bars for people that need 1000 buttons |
| 21:35.42 | Belazor | bwahah I didn't have to write a thesis, I just did a project for a company (that ended up hiring me temporarily to complete said project) ;D |
| 21:35.51 | VonhintenHOME` | sylvanaar, /fail |
| 21:35.52 | asmodai | nevcairiel: NL too |
| 21:35.56 | genetik- | nevcairiel: i need at least 9001 buttons |
| 21:35.57 | Belazor | I need 9001 buttons |
| 21:36.00 | asmodai | nevcairiel: anyway, thesis > * |
| 21:36.02 | Torhal | github is funny: Hardcore Archiving Action |
| 21:36.03 | Belazor | ROFL |
| 21:36.06 | genetik- | hah |
| 21:36.18 | Belazor | timing win |
| 21:36.30 | VonhintenHOME` | is that even possible? |
| 21:36.45 | VonhintenHOME` | non-action-based bars that is |
| 21:36.47 | Antiarc | I love when you fork a repo |
| 21:36.50 | Antiarc | "Hardcore forking action" |
| 21:36.50 | nevcairiel | Belazor: i'm doing a project for a company as well, but it still requires some written thesis about said project |
| 21:36.57 | Antiarc | AUGH |
| 21:37.02 | Antiarc | GO AWAY TIPS |
| 21:37.05 | Antiarc | YES I TARGETED SOMEONE |
| 21:37.09 | Antiarc | I DO NOT NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT |
| 21:37.09 | nevcairiel | VonhintenHOME`: sure, it just means that the contents of those bars are not saved on the server |
| 21:37.12 | sylvanaar | i have yet to be able to log into anything |
| 21:37.31 | Shefki | Antiarc: Interace, Help, turn off Tutorials |
| 21:37.32 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou 043.3 r2 * r270 : tag as 3.3 release 2 |
| 21:37.33 | VonhintenHOME` | ah, figured you only had 10 bars of actual usuable action bars |
| 21:37.34 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: iirc you can disable them in the interface options |
| 21:37.42 | Belazor | nevcairiel, well ye my project required a report too, but I worked together with 2 other dudes. 1 of them is an ace at writing reports, the other handled the Flash course we had, and I programmed ma shit |
| 21:37.47 | Antiarc | AceConsole-2.0-91094 (Ace2):2582: AceTab-2.0: Cannot register frame "ChatFrameEditBox"; it does not exist |
| 21:37.50 | Antiarc | That's an odd error |
| 21:37.53 | Antiarc | The frame still exists. |
| 21:38.03 | Shadowed | kill it |
| 21:38.04 | sylvanaar | thats been since ptr |
| 21:38.05 | Shadowed | killl it |
| 21:38.06 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: it uses GetFrameType to check if its a valid frame |
| 21:38.10 | nevcairiel | Update! |
| 21:38.12 | sylvanaar | its not there at first |
| 21:38.40 | Antiarc | I just did update :( |
| 21:38.51 | nevcairiel | so update to alpha |
| 21:38.58 | nevcairiel | or wait until the CC notices that i bumped it to release |
| 21:39.23 | sylvanaar | what did they replace getframetype with |
| 21:39.29 | nevcairiel | GetObjectType |
| 21:39.31 | Groktard | evil loading bar taunting me :( |
| 21:39.33 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 21:39.51 | Repo | 10poisonswapper: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.4.8 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Make PoisonSwapper commit seppuku when a 3.3 client is detected |
| 21:39.58 | Repo | 10poisonswapper: 03Antiarc 04v0.4.8 * 9312057 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.4.8 |
| 21:40.01 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 21:40.16 | Shadowed | ah damn |
| 21:40.19 | Shadowed | I use GetObjectType |
| 21:40.37 | nevcairiel | seppuku? is that eskimo speak for suicide or so? :P |
| 21:40.52 | Aeyan | Japanese, but yep. |
| 21:40.53 | Antiarc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku |
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| 21:44.08 | Fisker | why even update it Antiarc? |
| 21:44.14 | Belazor | this is why one does not mention seppuku =( |
| 21:44.15 | Fisker | Explain yourself and so forth |
| 21:45.06 | Torhal | Fisker: For great justice. |
| 21:45.31 | NivFreak | some kill a boss in IC while I'm at work and tell me how many EoF they drop |
| 21:45.36 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: why not just make it show a red text over the entire screen in bold saying "Doesn't work anymore, stop using it!" ? |
| 21:45.42 | Antiarc | Fisker: All it does now is print a message and disable itself. |
| 21:46.40 | Fisker | lol |
| 21:46.48 | Fisker | "Last one to post lag gets 5000g" |
| 21:46.52 | Fisker | *wow crashes* |
| 21:47.03 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 21:47.04 | Fisker | proactive stance against spammers :( |
| 21:47.26 | sylvanaar | =( |
| 21:47.39 | NivFreak | people like that should get 2 week bans imo |
| 21:47.55 | NivFreak | baudspam is nice for dealing with it though |
| 21:48.02 | Fisker | servers are already lagging on EU :( |
| 21:48.09 | Fisker | can't login again because of it |
| 21:48.13 | NivFreak | same in the US |
| 21:48.18 | NivFreak | started last night |
| 21:48.23 | Fisker | weird |
| 21:48.32 | sylvanaar | has been disconnected from the server |
| 21:48.33 | Fisker | I think they're starting the 3.3 patching process already then |
| 21:48.38 | Fisker | can't be a coincidence |
| 21:48.46 | NivFreak | maybe DB upgrades |
| 21:48.48 | NivFreak | or something |
| 21:49.05 | Shefki | It's SkyNet, it's coming alive in Blizzard authentication servers. |
| 21:49.21 | Torhal | Shefki: I thought you were incorporating it into PB4 |
| 21:49.25 | Shefki | In a few hours civilization will end and it'll be all Blizzard's fault. |
| 21:49.33 | Shefki | Torhal: lol no |
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| 21:52.39 | MysticalOS | the core hound is a reward for authenicator apparently |
| 21:52.49 | nevcairiel | so we've heard |
| 21:52.52 | nevcairiel | wonder if i get one tomorrow |
| 21:53.14 | MysticalOS | wonder if i'll get one cause i used to use an authenicator |
| 21:53.21 | NivFreak | core hound? |
| 21:53.28 | NivFreak | should I put my authenticator back on? =x |
| 21:54.07 | Primer | connecting...success!...You have been disconnected |
| 21:54.47 | Larry | lol |
| 21:54.48 | Larry | ik |
| 21:56.32 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r110 Bazooka.lua: fix area setting from the configuration menu |
| 21:56.51 | MysticalOS | yes |
| 21:57.02 | MysticalOS | i'ma nnoyed cause a guildy has been running heroics for last hour |
| 21:57.15 | MysticalOS | he logged in on first try and got in before the auhtication shit |
| 21:57.26 | Shefki | I was on and got disconnected. |
| 21:57.31 | MysticalOS | all of the realms are actually up and working fine, it's the login database that's screwed up |
| 21:57.56 | Shefki | Actually I think it's the system that hands users off to different servers within their system. |
| 21:58.05 | Shefki | I can log in. I just can't get to the character list. |
| 21:58.22 | nevcairiel | thats always the bottle neck |
| 21:58.27 | nevcairiel | you get past auth but not on your realm |
| 21:58.31 | Shefki | Authentication is slow, but that's to be expected with everyone spamming it right now. |
| 21:58.57 | NivFreak | I have some people in my guild already pugging heroics, and some that say they can't even get logged in |
| 21:59.16 | Shefki | My GF sitting right next to me is on. |
| 21:59.18 | Shefki | I can't get in. |
| 21:59.31 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 21:59.47 | KriLL3 | could be interpreted more than one way |
| 21:59.53 | nevcairiel | hehe |
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| 21:59.56 | Shefki | Go away. |
| 22:01.16 | Primer | goes back to reading patch notes |
| 22:02.07 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 22:02.15 | Groktard | at least it's doing something different now |
| 22:02.27 | Groktard | instead of getting disconnected before character screen i'm getting no realms |
| 22:02.40 | sylvanaar | im still getting disco'ed |
| 22:02.52 | MysticalOS | i actually got into my server finaly but it's stuck at retrieving char |
| 22:03.07 | KriLL3 | hmm, have the achievements for heroic and non heroic daily dungeons been removed in 3.3? |
| 22:03.16 | MysticalOS | yes |
| 22:03.27 | MysticalOS | proof of demise is a feat of strength if you completed it |
| 22:03.33 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 22:03.42 | KriLL3 | I'm missing some :\ |
| 22:03.48 | KriLL3 | I'll never be able to complete it |
| 22:04.01 | Daemona | what the flying fuck !? http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/vL7n0An6opI/Microsoft-To-Get-Malware-Bailout-In-Germany |
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| 22:04.39 | KriLL3 | germans |
| 22:05.28 | KriLL3 | well it can't be a joke, they don't have a sense of humor |
| 22:05.51 | Primer | it seems Blizz has simply implemented QuestHelper |
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| 22:07.16 | KriLL3 | naw |
| 22:07.34 | KriLL3 | they have their own information on that stuff, they didn't need to datamine it |
| 22:07.48 | KriLL3 | and it doesn't have routes to do it quickly, or an arrow to point the way etc |
| 22:07.56 | Mikk | s/implemented Questhelper/copied Warhammer/ |
| 22:08.09 | KriLL3 | an Aion |
| 22:08.35 | p3lim | git keeps fucking me over |
| 22:08.50 | p3lim | refusing unannoted tag refs/tags/<tagname> |
| 22:09.09 | Mikk | oh you can actually connect? i can't even do that |
| 22:09.16 | Mikk | reinstalled umpteen times trying different methods |
| 22:09.22 | Mikk | curse servers dont want to talk to me |
| 22:09.35 | p3lim | oh? |
| 22:10.07 | Repo | 10stat-block-core: 03funkydude * r31 StatBlockCore.toc: locale+toc update |
| 22:10.24 | Mikk | yeah it's the ssh tunnel bit fucking me over |
| 22:10.42 | Primer | Non spell-based tracking now persists through logout. <-- wtf does that mean? |
| 22:10.42 | Mikk | just refuses regardless of using builtin ssh, putty, whatever |
| 22:11.10 | Mikk | Primer: Merchants/flightpaths/blah i assume |
| 22:11.32 | p3lim | got it, had to tag with -a |
| 22:11.39 | Primer | I don't recall them ever NOT doing that |
| 22:11.46 | Primer | only arena seemed to reset that |
| 22:11.54 | Xtek | Mikk: Which ones? |
| 22:12.10 | Arrowmaster | p3lim: unannoted tags are specifically rejected by curse servers so stop trying to send them |
| 22:14.01 | p3lim | Arrowmaster: just found out |
| 22:14.12 | ckknight | Mikk: ssh -vvv |
| 22:14.53 | Mikk | ckknight: connects just fine when i do it manually. |
| 22:15.02 | Arrowmaster | -v (verbose) -vv (very verbose) -vvv (very very verbose) |
| 22:15.03 | Mikk | just git that shits all over me |
| 22:15.05 | Mikk | so i shit all over git |
| 22:15.20 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 22:15.47 | Arrowmaster | Mikk: you are using msysgit right? |
| 22:15.51 | Mikk | yep |
| 22:16.00 | Arrowmaster | the msysgit openssh or putty? |
| 22:16.06 | Mikk | tried both |
| 22:17.28 | Repo | 10stat-block-core: 03funkydude 04v2.65 * r32 : Tagging as v2.65 |
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| 22:19.00 | asmodai | away Zzz Zzz |
| 22:19.10 | asmodai | adds a / |
| 22:19.17 | pentium166 | anyone know where the patch files are stored on winows 7? i reinstalled between preloading and now, so the downloader wants to start over |
| 22:19.42 | Stanzilla | C:\Users\Public\Documents\Blizzard Entertainment\World of Warcraft |
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| 22:21.42 | pentium166 | hmm, not seeing anything relating to 3.3 except for ptr stuff |
| 22:22.05 | Pneumatus | pentium166: could be straight in your wow folder |
| 22:22.07 | asmodai | mine just kept it in the WoW/Updates folder |
| 22:22.15 | Pneumatus | bg downloader has been downloading to wow/updates |
| 22:22.40 | Pneumatus | if you get a patch from in-game it goes into public/docs, but if the launcher downloads it it goes into wow/ |
| 22:22.52 | pentium166 | nice. |
| 22:22.56 | Pneumatus | quite |
| 22:23.01 | sylvanaar | öÅH |
| 22:23.08 | sylvanaar | i have that folder in my wow directory |
| 22:23.15 | Pneumatus | sounds pro |
| 22:23.30 | Primer | either it's folder or directory, never both |
| 22:23.51 | p3lim | SaveEquipmentSet got changed in 3.3? |
| 22:23.59 | Primer | never says "folder" unless it's to denote that he doesn't say "folder" |
| 22:24.04 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r111 Bazooka.lua: |
| 22:24.06 | Repo | better default position for 3rd bar, keep second bar's bottom attach setting if we remove it |
| 22:24.17 | pentium166 | Cool, ran the launcher and it found the old files, thanks |
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| 22:30.09 | Primer | mmmm muffins |
| 22:30.16 | VonhintenHOME` | christ, what's the blizzard word for "test deploy" |
| 22:30.33 | VonhintenHOME` | it shouldn't take until 5:30pm to get a patch up and running |
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| 22:31.17 | Gnarfoz | says you who has no clue whatsoever about it |
| 22:31.45 | Gnarfoz | better play some |
| 22:31.47 | Gnarfoz | ~winterbells |
| 22:31.48 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, winterbells is at http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/g3/bells.htm |
| 22:32.01 | Groktard | ~kill Gnarfoz |
| 22:32.02 | purl | ACTION shoots a charged neutron gun at Gnarfoz |
| 22:32.10 | Groktard | dances on Gnarfoz's charred corpse |
| 22:32.18 | Gnarfoz | neutrons don't burn me :< |
| 22:32.19 | VonhintenHOME` | I know it shouldn't take 5 years to clean up software deployment |
| 22:32.25 | pentium166 | the just fry your brain? |
| 22:32.27 | pentium166 | they* |
| 22:32.41 | Gnarfoz | brain tastes fine fried, so... win/win |
| 22:33.19 | VonhintenHOME` | And besides, it's all about the Bloons: http://www.ninjakiwi.com/Games/Tower-Defense/Play/Bloons-Tower-Defense-4.html |
| 22:34.04 | mitchnull | nev: what is the "official" way of resetting a subtable in acedb to defaults? |
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| 22:36.16 | Rawrkitty | would blizzard ever ban solely off of third party evidence/reports and/or accept third party reports? |
| 22:36.44 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:37.51 | Stanzilla | 3.3 trailer is out btw |
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| 22:38.52 | MysticalOS | is the website even working though? |
| 22:38.54 | chiper_ | link? |
| 22:38.55 | Sidhao | pulls out his whip, cracks it! |
| 22:39.00 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r225 Proculas.toc: Update TOC for 3.3 |
| 22:39.08 | Stanzilla | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/implemented/3p3.xml |
| 22:39.14 | Stanzilla | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/files/pc/WoW_FotLK_ESRB_EN_XVID_F-avi-downloader.exe |
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| 22:40.17 | chiper_ | did anybody else read that title logo as "Fail of the lich king"? |
| 22:40.26 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 22:40.29 | Shefki | I've never understood why their websites die on patch day... Making websites that function should be a fairly well understood problem. |
| 22:40.48 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: wow-eu for example has Website maintenance coinciding with the normal maintenance |
| 22:40.50 | Shirik | Is it worth solving though? |
| 22:40.58 | Gnarfoz | so they don't die, they just took em offline |
| 22:41.08 | Shirik | On patch day, they get 11m people at once |
| 22:41.11 | Shefki | Why would you do website maintenance with game maintenance. |
| 22:41.14 | Shefki | It makes no sense at all. |
| 22:41.15 | Thaoky | Shefki: most likely because upgrading the infrastructure just for the patch rush is not cost effective |
| 22:41.16 | Gnarfoz | because you can |
| 22:41.18 | Shirik | on non patch day, they probably get about 250k maybe |
| 22:41.29 | Shefki | I don't believe it's an infrastructure issue at all. |
| 22:41.30 | Shirik | There's no sense trying to make it work for those 11m people |
| 22:41.32 | sylvanaar | lrn2cloud |
| 22:41.37 | Gnarfoz | (reading ~wowalert is edumacational!) |
| 22:41.40 | Shefki | And the whole 11m people thing is nonsense. |
| 22:41.43 | Shirik | especially when it's just going to be "OMG WHY IT nOT IS UP YET U IS SUX" |
| 22:41.43 | Shefki | Most of those people are in China. |
| 22:41.46 | Shirik | sylvanaar: WHY |
| 22:41.52 | Shefki | And they sure as heck aren't hitting the US pages right now. |
| 22:41.53 | Shirik | Everyone know how to, but why |
| 22:42.42 | Shefki | Shirik: When their own people are pointing people to look at pages that are down. Yes I'd say it's worth it. |
| 22:43.06 | Shirik | it comes down to a business decision |
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| 22:43.16 | Shirik | how many people are going to cancel their accounts because they couldn't get to the site on patch day? |
| 22:43.21 | Shirik | Probably less revenue than it would cost them to fix it |
| 22:43.23 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: its very simple, their websites are written in java |
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| 22:43.27 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 22:43.32 | Shefki | Why does that matter? |
| 22:43.37 | Shirik | that at me? |
| 22:43.37 | Arrowmaster | because its java |
| 22:43.43 | Arrowmaster | and im seriously not fucking joking |
| 22:43.44 | Shefki | That was to Arrow. |
| 22:43.53 | Primer | bunch of servers just went offline |
| 22:43.58 | sylvanaar | good |
| 22:44.08 | chiper_ | I have to agree with arrow here, jsp has never been known for its speed |
| 22:44.15 | Shirik | My servers take up about 3GB of memory |
| 22:44.22 | Shirik | and they have very few users |
| 22:44.27 | Shirik | it's just because of Java |
| 22:44.28 | Sidhao | Netsplits ;''; |
| 22:44.48 | Shirik | The software could easily be served in something like PHP with much less resources used |
| 22:45.02 | Shirik | I really don't understand the logic behind using JSP |
| 22:45.07 | pentium166 | PHP isn't enterprisey enough! |
| 22:45.15 | Primer | I don't understand how people can get sold into buying shit that just doesn't work |
| 22:45.22 | Primer | i.e. java, microsoft products |
| 22:45.22 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: you using 32bit or 64bit? |
| 22:45.39 | Shirik | both. The 3GB is split across 2 servers because my servers DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MEMORY |
| 22:45.41 | Shirik | that's how sad iti s |
| 22:45.52 | Shirik | I had to restructure the load because it was too demanding for such a simple app |
| 22:46.07 | sylvanaar | java is x-platform tho - thats super important |
| 22:46.10 | Shefki | Shirik: I'd be a whole lot more understanding if the sites were just slow. But if I'm getting a maintenance page. They're fucking with them. The sites aren't just being overwhelmed by traffic. |
| 22:46.22 | Shirik | sylvanaar: Because we change server OSes every day |
| 22:46.35 | sylvanaar | im being sarcastic - i hate java |
| 22:46.37 | Arrowmaster | i know some people run 32bit instead of 64bit when using stuff like ruby and python because it reduces memory usage |
| 22:46.38 | Shirik | I know :) |
| 22:46.39 | chiper_ | Shirik: so is PHP |
| 22:46.47 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:46.50 | chiper_ | erm, sylvanaar |
| 22:46.52 | chiper_ | mistab |
| 22:47.24 | Shirik | that's pretty sad Arrowmaster |
| 22:47.36 | Primer | except that with 64 bit you're not constrained to 4g processes? |
| 22:47.37 | sylvanaar | even .NET is x-platform |
| 22:47.41 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r328 / (4 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus: |
| 22:47.41 | p3lim | SaveEquipmentSet got changed in 3.3? |
| 22:47.43 | Repo | - Fixed weapon buff checking which has been broken since 3.323. |
| 22:47.43 | Repo | - Fixed some errors when joining a raid when in combat. |
| 22:47.45 | Repo | - Updated toc for 3.3. I don't see any changes which would need any change to RBS in the patch notes so fingers crossed... |
| 22:47.55 | steev_ | sylvanaar: for certain definitions of x-platform |
| 22:47.58 | Primer | and you don't have to hack memory management to get more than 4g total |
| 22:48.00 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: im talking about VPS stuff though were your alotted memory is fairly low anyway |
| 22:48.23 | chiper_ | doesn't .net only run under IIS? |
| 22:48.38 | Primer | chiper_: never heard of mod_mono? |
| 22:48.43 | Arrowmaster | Primer: the 4gb limit only applies to windows |
| 22:48.46 | chiper_ | primer: ah, no I hadnt |
| 22:48.49 | Primer | Arrowmaster: negative |
| 22:48.53 | mitch0 | arrow: wrong |
| 22:48.56 | sylvanaar | mono has come a long way |
| 22:49.18 | steev_ | Primer: mod_mono sure, as long as the .net app actually... you know, works with it... i.e. not using windows specific shit |
| 22:49.23 | sylvanaar | i can write iphone apps in mono |
| 22:49.32 | Primer | Arrowmaster: a 32 bit system can only have a process of 4g in size, no more, regardless of platform |
| 22:49.38 | Sidhao | Hrm, any idea which mod causes me to be unable to use my keybord or click on the screen? |
| 22:49.40 | steev_ | more programmers focus on functional than portability |
| 22:49.45 | Arrowmaster | oh process |
| 22:49.48 | Primer | steev_: heh, I wasn't advocating its use :) |
| 22:50.09 | Arrowmaster | 32bit windows cant even handle more than 2gb per process |
| 22:50.10 | steev_ | Primer: i know - im just sayin - just because something is available, doesn't mean the language is truely x-platform |
| 22:50.20 | Primer | steev_: indeed |
| 22:50.23 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: That's the problem with loosely typed languages. They generally use fairly large types when you may have no need for them. |
| 22:50.30 | Primer | steev_: like...java! |
| 22:50.34 | pentium166 | i think you can get 3gb with a startup switch in 32-bit windows |
| 22:50.41 | steev_ | Arrowmaster: correct, and WoW is a 32 bit program (which is why i laugh at people that insist on getting a machine with 8+g ram |
| 22:50.44 | Primer | "oh wait, you're using JNI to link to a windows dll? yeah..." |
| 22:50.59 | Shefki | steev_: Umm 64-bit app for me here. |
| 22:51.18 | steev_ | Shefki: no it isn't |
| 22:51.26 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: actually i ran into issues messing with ruby, its floats arent doubles so you run into the 0.1 problem a lot, you have to use BigNum to get doubles |
| 22:51.37 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r451 modules/TargetCC.lua: |
| 22:51.39 | Repo | - added Entangling Roots and Intimidating Shout to the CC list |
| 22:51.46 | Arrowmaster | am i spoiled for liking how lua uses doubles |
| 22:52.18 | Primer | file World\ of\ Warcraft/Wow.exe |
| 22:52.19 | Primer | World of Warcraft/Wow.exe: MS-DOS executable PE for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit |
| 22:52.56 | Arrowmaster | steev_: 32bit programs can be compiled with the ability to use more than 2gb on 64bit os |
| 22:53.10 | pentium166 | wow is not one of them |
| 22:53.17 | Arrowmaster | crysis is i think because all their dev stuff is 64bit |
| 22:53.21 | pentium166 | it will crash if you turn the settings up and it loads too much stuff |
| 22:53.31 | steev_ | there is a blue post somewhere that states specifically that wow cannot (and will not) use more than 2g of ram |
| 22:53.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah probably |
| 22:53.51 | *** part/#wowace Thaoky (i=Thaoky@91.181.160.80) |
| 22:54.00 | steev_ | i came across it when looking at haste's addon that had a forum link to processorAffinity stuff |
| 22:54.18 | Shefki | The processorAffinity stuff doesn't work right anyway. |
| 22:54.22 | sylvanaar | it doesnt |
| 22:54.30 | Arrowmaster | thats because it doesnt work how you think it works |
| 22:54.31 | steev_ | Shefki: thus me reading the link..... |
| 22:54.41 | Arrowmaster | tell it it you have 4 cores doesnt mean it will use 4 cores |
| 22:54.48 | Fisker | I don't know how it works |
| 22:54.48 | steev_ | because i wanted to be sure - and it works for me because i onlt have dual core, so 3 |
| 22:54.50 | Fisker | but it does work |
| 22:54.54 | Shefki | Actually I don't think it works at on the Mac. |
| 22:54.59 | Shefki | at all* |
| 22:55.04 | Repo | 10crafts: 03pb_ee1 * r50 Favorites.lua: Adding a few alchemy favorites |
| 22:55.07 | steev_ | who cares about the mac |
| 22:55.14 | Shefki | People that use Macs. |
| 22:55.21 | steev_ | shouldn't you be designing some graphics in photoshop |
| 22:55.26 | Torhal | ... |
| 22:55.41 | Shefki | Shouldn't you be shoving a Microsoft dildo up your butt? Seriously, WTF is that supposed to mean? |
| 22:55.51 | steev_ | microsoft dildo eh? |
| 22:55.51 | Primer | hehe |
| 22:55.52 | Stanzilla | haha :D |
| 22:55.54 | Fisker | wtf is that supposed to mean? |
| 22:56.03 | steev_ | Linux freestyler 2.6.31-16-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 3 22:07:16 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:56.07 | steev_ | no. |
| 22:56.12 | Arrowmaster | ewww |
| 22:56.15 | Arrowmaster | ubuntu |
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| 22:56.32 | steev_ | Arrowmaster: what, i'm on my work machine, we've standardized on Ubuntu |
| 22:56.34 | Primer | steev_: what happened to gentoo?!?! |
| 22:56.40 | Primer | I thought you were a gentoo developer... |
| 22:56.46 | Shefki | Ok fine, shove a penguin shapped dildo up your butt with a wine glass following it. |
| 22:56.53 | Arrowmaster | Linux tohsaka 2.6.30-2-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Sep 25 22:16:56 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:57.02 | Arrowmaster | hmmm uname doesnt show my distro |
| 22:57.03 | Primer | Linux daniel.3d-l.com 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Nov 4 00:02:04 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:57.11 | steev_ | apparently someone is super touchy about being a macfag |
| 22:57.12 | sylvanaar | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_UNIX-HATERS_Handbook |
| 22:57.18 | Fisker | Shove a mac designed pistol down your throat Shefki |
| 22:57.42 | sylvanaar | "Unix. The World's First Computer Virus" |
| 22:57.43 | Shefki | I'm not a Mac fag. All I said was processorAfinity doesn't work on Maacs. |
| 22:57.47 | Shefki | I didn't tell you to use a Mac. |
| 22:57.50 | Arrowmaster | Primer: got enough x86_64? |
| 22:57.51 | Fisker | MÃ¥cs ftw |
| 22:57.57 | Primer | Arrowmaster: apparently not |
| 22:58.17 | Primer | Macs are unix, after all |
| 22:58.20 | Fisker | x86_64 is a smiley |
| 22:58.24 | Primer | wrapped a pretty and shit |
| 22:58.27 | Primer | all, even |
| 22:58.40 | steev_ | thats a fedora core for you |
| 22:58.41 | Stanzilla | is it super cool OS fight again? |
| 22:58.50 | steev_ | it is! |
| 22:58.54 | Skellum | Hrm, any idea which mod causes me to be unable to use my keybord or click on the screen? |
| 22:59.04 | Gaz2 | Skellum: yes i do! |
| 22:59.09 | Skellum | Do I blame CKknight? |
| 22:59.09 | steev_ | Skellum: try disabling all, and enabling one by one |
| 22:59.13 | Gaz2 | re-check your "use character specific keybindings" box |
| 22:59.19 | Gaz2 | took me forever to figure out :S |
| 22:59.20 | Skellum | Mmmhmm.... |
| 22:59.21 | Kaelten | Skellum: generally a safe bet |
| 22:59.26 | Skellum | I'll do that right as soon as I can log in :D |
| 22:59.39 | Gaz2 | it unbound EVERYHING. camera move, esc-menu |
| 22:59.46 | Gaz2 | re-checked that and they all came back |
| 22:59.46 | steev_ | Gaz2: ouch |
| 23:00.04 | steev_ | ooh, 17:00 |
| 23:00.19 | Skellum | Btw |
| 23:00.23 | Skellum | Where is the box Gaz2? |
| 23:00.25 | steev_ | time to "leave" work |
| 23:00.30 | sylvanaar | OMG LOGGED IN |
| 23:00.46 | Shefki | You must be on one of the 10 realms that are still up. |
| 23:00.47 | Gaz2 | normally its esc menu->keybindings. top of the menu |
| 23:00.50 | Skellum | Heheh |
| 23:00.51 | Skellum | Gaz |
| 23:00.53 | NeoTron | omg at work |
| 23:00.54 | Skellum | Where is that box? |
| 23:00.56 | Gaz2 | but you have to manually click on the computer icon ;) |
| 23:01.00 | Gaz2 | to get to the esc menu |
| 23:01.03 | Skellum | Yes |
| 23:01.18 | Primer | bwahahaha realm list went all-red |
| 23:01.20 | Skellum | becomes a clicker |
| 23:01.24 | Gaz2 | if you dont have that visible on your UI, good luck :) |
| 23:01.37 | Skellum | Meh I know where it is, all my stuff like that is fade out |
| 23:01.46 | Skellum | So its in the Interface menu? |
| 23:01.58 | Skellum | Or the KB one? |
| 23:02.06 | chiper_ | KB |
| 23:02.22 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.5.1 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - TOC to 30300 for WoW 3.3 patch release. |
| 23:02.28 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 042.4.5.1 * 7da45cb /: [new tag] Tagging as 2.4.5.1 |
| 23:02.29 | Gaz2 | keybindings |
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| 23:04.06 | Repo | 10acp: 03sylvanaar * r26 ACP.toc: TOC 30300 |
| 23:04.12 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r393 / (7 files in 7 directories): TOC 30300 |
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| 23:19.47 | robotusch | ~wowalert |
| 23:19.48 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 23:24.23 | Shadowed | huh interesting |
| 23:24.29 | Shadowed | I think Blizzard might have protected CancelAuction with 3.3 |
| 23:24.50 | Nechckn | Shadowed There was some buzz about that possibility |
| 23:25.08 | Nechckn | Are you in/able to check it? |
| 23:25.09 | Shadowed | Given that people are reporting that cancelling in QA was broken and are getting interface action failed messages |
| 23:25.10 | Shadowed | that sounds like |
| 23:25.15 | Shadowed | s/like/likely/ |
| 23:25.19 | Primer | I still want GetPlayerAltitude() and GetPlayerElevation() |
| 23:25.19 | Shadowed | But no, I'm not in so I can't verify it |
| 23:25.34 | Nechckn | kk... just checking. Appreciate the heads up! |
| 23:25.34 | Shadowed | I would like a pony, and that's more likely Primer :P |
| 23:25.51 | Primer | gets Shadowed a pony |
| 23:26.33 | Shadowed | Which is sad |
| 23:26.39 | Shadowed | That they broke auto canceling but not auto posting |
| 23:26.57 | yoshimo | why should they break the ah like this? |
| 23:27.24 | Shadowed | Because they don't want automated auction mods |
| 23:27.29 | Nechckn | Well... it keeps mass undercut wars from happening |
| 23:27.36 | Shadowed | No it doesn't |
| 23:28.01 | Shadowed | The automated posting at lowest still works, just not cancelling |
| 23:28.07 | Nechckn | THat way, you can undercut the competition once, as you post, but it makes across the board cancelling broken. |
| 23:28.12 | Nechckn | right |
| 23:28.27 | Shadowed | And if they made it require a key press, it just means you get an automated button you mass 500 times |
| 23:28.29 | Nechckn | It's better to break that than the posting, if it is |
| 23:30.37 | Nechckn | but- button mashing is still more inconvenient than having an AddOn do it all for you |
| 23:31.37 | Repo | 10goblinvendorfilter: 03yssaril 07master * 0.3.0b / (6 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] all filters now have a config where you can enable filters by default |
| 23:31.44 | Repo | 10goblinvendorfilter: 03yssaril 040.3.0b * 13d2658 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.3.0b |
| 23:32.03 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r394 / (2 files in 2 directories): tentative support for PARTY_LEADER |
| 23:32.12 | Yssaril | Fisker: enjoy your config for GVF |
| 23:33.14 | Torhal | Yssaril: Ack! |
| 23:33.17 | Torhal | git pull fails! |
| 23:33.29 | Yssaril | why would it fail? |
| 23:33.32 | Torhal | error: Entry 'AlreadyKnownFilter.lua' not uptodate. Cannot merge. |
| 23:33.44 | Torhal | I didn't change anything on my end. Oddness. |
| 23:33.48 | Yssaril | lol |
| 23:34.09 | Yssaril | you probably did and forgot to push |
| 23:34.10 | Torhal | Oh. I did a chmod |
| 23:34.19 | Torhal | The launcher fucked up my permissions again |
| 23:34.32 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 23:35.29 | Yssaril | tekkub: http://github.com/tekkub/GnomishVendorShrinker/issues#issue/15 |
| 23:36.01 | Torhal | Ok, pulled fine after another chmod |
| 23:38.09 | ulic | Torhal: I had the problem on the ptr builds, I haven't patched yet, if you figure out a solution you should post it someplace. |
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| 23:40.02 | Repo | 10acp: 03sylvanaar 043.3.0 * r27 : Tagging as 3.3.0 |
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| 23:41.56 | Torhal | ulic: I just chmod -R 775 |
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| 23:43.28 | Repo | 10tank-points: 03Whitetooth * r119 / (3 files in 1 directory): - toc 30300 |
| 23:45.42 | ulic | Torhal: yea, that's what I do, but then when I ran the launcher again, it kills the permissions again |
| 23:45.56 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6835 / (10 files in 10 directories): toc bumps |
| 23:46.26 | Torhal | ulic: Yup. Had to do that the last two patches. |
| 23:46.48 | Primer | Refusing change of type 'U ' to tags/v0.8.13/Changelog.txt |
| 23:46.48 | Primer | Tags cannot be changed. Please re-tag under a new name. |
| 23:46.50 | Primer | WTF? |
| 23:47.05 | Primer | I'm just doing svn copy . URL_OF_NEW_TAG |
| 23:48.00 | Pneumatus | trying to copy to a tag that already exists, im guessing |
| 23:48.40 | Primer | well, I just checked out my last tag, edited the toc and Changelog.txt, then svn cp . URL, where . is the working copy of the tag, yes |
| 23:48.47 | Primer | that seems perfectly valid to me |
| 23:49.01 | Primer | guessing the pre-commit hook is a bit overzealous? |
| 23:49.28 | Primer | as my trunk has a ton of changes I'm not ready to tag yet |
| 23:49.43 | Repo | 10basic-combo-points: 03funkydude * r61 BasicComboPoints.toc: toc update |
| 23:50.02 | Arrowmaster | Primer: i think thats because of how svn works |
| 23:50.10 | Pneumatus | you need to commit before you copy |
| 23:50.16 | Pneumatus | and you're working copy is dirty |
| 23:50.22 | Primer | I suppose I could look at the revision history and find when I tagged and check that out...but that's effectively the same thing as checking out the tag |
| 23:50.27 | Pneumatus | and you can't commit to an existing tag |
| 23:50.41 | Primer | I'm a working copy?!?! HOW DARE YOU INSULT ME! |
| 23:51.15 | Primer | that's bullshit, I've never had to commit before branching a working copy before |
| 23:51.15 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar * r164 / (6 files in 6 directories): FBagOfHolding: |
| 23:51.17 | Repo | - Updated ToC files after testing with WoW 3.3. |
| 23:51.17 | Groktard | at least i'm back to the realm selection screen |
| 23:51.24 | Pneumatus | copy is just a remote copy, any changes you make locally to the tag would need committing, which you can't do |
| 23:51.29 | Arrowmaster | i think svn is sending a copy and an update for the file in the same commit, and the precommit hook is probably just checking for updates and blocking them |
| 23:51.58 | Repo | 10basic-combo-points: 03funkydude 04v3.25 * r62 : Tagging as v3.25 |
| 23:52.00 | Pneumatus | you'd need to branch the revision the tag was made from, edit the branch then tag... or something along them lines |
| 23:52.23 | Primer | no, you can check out a tag, change it, then copy the working copy as a new branch/tag without affecting what you checked out |
| 23:52.34 | Primer | I've done that plenty of times at work |
| 23:52.59 | Primer | when I've changed too much and didn't want to push that back to trunk |
| 23:53.08 | Pneumatus | it's still 2 distinct operations, one commit against the tag then a copy of the new revision |
| 23:53.14 | Primer | no |
| 23:53.17 | Primer | it's not |
| 23:53.18 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 23:53.22 | Primer | there is no commit to the tag |
| 23:53.23 | Arrowmaster | but that does destroy history |
| 23:53.29 | Groktard | realms happydance |
| 23:54.11 | Primer | how does it destroy history? It's still a copy operation |
| 23:54.49 | Primer | I think that pre-commit hook needs to be fixed |
| 23:55.06 | Arrowmaster | its not a copy |
| 23:55.12 | Arrowmaster | its basically just a commit |
| 23:55.18 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt say where it came from |
| 23:55.19 | Pneumatus | a copy is a copy of a specific path+revision, if you're dirtying the revision it's not a copy at all |
| 23:55.28 | Arrowmaster | trust me svn is fucking horrible about keeping history |
| 23:55.31 | Kazie | FontString:SetFont("Fonts\\FRIZQT__.TTF", 11, "OUTLINE, MONOCHROME") <-- can this be used to only alter the size? |
| 23:55.52 | Primer | or I could just checkout my trunk at the rev where I branched, change, and tag that...sigh...guess that's what I'll do |
| 23:56.05 | Primer | I shouldn't have to do this |
| 23:56.11 | Arrowmaster | that wont work either i bet |
| 23:56.15 | Gunrun | servers are going up hurrah |
| 23:56.17 | Yssaril | Kazie: you will still have to feed it all the other parts but yea you cna change size with that |
| 23:56.20 | chiper_ | are addons allowed to cancel the current cast on an event? like, say, cancel the current cast when I get an FoF or Frostbite proc? |
| 23:56.29 | Primer | Arrowmaster: why not? |
| 23:56.47 | Arrowmaster | because i dont think you understand what the hook is looking for |
| 23:56.53 | Kazie | Yssaril: Is there something i can write at font to just use the same font or something? |
| 23:56.54 | Repo | 10tank-points: 03Whitetooth 042.8.6 * r120 : 2.8.6 |
| 23:56.55 | Repo | - toc update for 3.3.0 |
| 23:57.09 | Primer | the tag is effectively a revision of trunk |
| 23:57.38 | Primer | I gather that the hook is trying to make sure you don't update tags |
| 23:57.39 | Yssaril | Kazie: not to my knowledge i think you would have to get the font info and then reset it and modify the part you want to change |
| 23:57.59 | Pneumatus | the hook stops you committing into tags, you can only copy afaik |
| 23:58.01 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar 041.0.164 * r165 : Tagging as 1.0.164 |
| 23:58.19 | Arrowmaster | http://hg.curseforge.net/www/curseforge-repo-hooks/mainline/file/de954374653b/svn-hooks/pre-commit.d/refuse-tag-update.py |
| 23:58.33 | Arrowmaster | you can not do anything that shows up as a change |
| 23:59.05 | Arrowmaster | doing a working copy to url copy operation shows up as a copy and a change at the same time i think |
| 23:59.13 | Arrowmaster | for the files that have been changed |
| 23:59.18 | Primer | Anyhow, I just checked a branch in my code where I did exactly that: svn copy dirty_working_copy URL/branches/new and the entire svn history is there |
