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01:37.46Repo10kraidlogger (experimental): 03kandarz * r2 / (20 files in 4 directories): First commit: Player tracking done
01:49.00Repo10kraidlogger (experimental): 03kandarz * r3 kRaidLogger.lua: Fix loot tracking
01:49.09TorhalMOAR HEALBOT!
01:49.13Torhalcackles.
01:49.19WobWorkzwhut?
01:49.26WobWorkhealboat?
01:49.54TorhalThe HealBot author is hard-disabling LHC4 with an option.
01:50.15TorhalSo if other AddOns are using it, it's shut off for them as well.
01:50.50Yssarilany reason for it?
01:51.05WobWorkspite =)
01:52.25TorhalYssaril: http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=293162&postcount=294
01:54.11Yssarili saw that earlier still doesn't explain the reason for the HB author doing that
01:55.17TorhalApparently, he said to Shadowed:  "I disagree. It is the gamer who pays for their game and if they want to disable an embedded library then so be it, I am simply giving them the option."
01:55.59Yssarilbah if you don;t want it then delete it imo :)
01:56.58TorhalIt would still fire messages though, if another AddOn was running that had it embedded.
01:57.29TorhalHe could have asked for an API to be added to disable comms, or could have required a reload after "disabling"
02:00.53Shadowedback
02:01.39Shadowedhttp://shadowed.pastey.net/129597 that's the entire PM
02:01.50ShadowedYssaril ^
02:02.32ShadowedBasically I told him if he wants a way of disabling it, post requesting it don't hard disable it without telling me anything. I already yelled at him a month or two ago for using a private API for his hack solution to support incoming heal addons
02:02.47Shadowedrequesting it.*
02:07.39Yssarilic idiotic reason from him /sigh
02:08.00Gnarfozreasoning: bad, reason: good
02:08.07ShadowedWhat Gnarfoz said
02:08.33ShadowedIt's completely fair to not have the library sending data if the user doesn't want it to. Just not how he reasoned it or how he's doing it
02:08.46Gnarfozalthough LHC4 is not one of the worse offenders, afaik ^^
02:09.02Yssarilstandalone addon imo
02:10.07Gnarfozanyway, http://☃.net/
02:11.19ShadowedAlthough the hard part is breaking his hack without breaking the upgrade path
02:12.53Yssarilrename the function?
02:13.08ShadowedRenaming it just means he has to update to disable it
02:14.02Gazprint a warning if the other addon is detected with his email address in it? ;)
02:14.10ShadowedThat would be petty :p
02:16.10Yssarilimo provied a better solution and then ask him to fix it
02:18.42TorhalShadowed: I think you should just buy him one of these: https://www.snuggiefordogs.com/flare/next
02:19.05ShadowedAnd I would get one myself, this sounds like a good idea
02:19.38Torhalhaha
02:22.59orionshockok.. making my trial into git, how do i set my uid/email to something sane and not the computer's uid & junk email?
02:27.20Yssarilleave the email blank?
02:29.19orionshockno it was grabbing the uid@computername.(none) for the email
02:29.37orionshocki found it - `git config --global user.name `
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02:48.25Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * 2e1842f / (26 files in 4 directories): [new, +301 commits] (297 truncated)
02:48.26Repo2e1842f: yet another test commit
02:48.27Repof4cbf0e: bump to test git stuff
02:48.29Repod64b968: fix LoD'ness
02:48.30Repof4c6df9: fix localization files for alt tracking module
02:48.38orionshockhehe..
02:48.40orionshockit's working
02:49.32Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * 20657f2 SickOfClickingDailies_AltTracking/SickOfClickingDailies_AltTracking.toc: [+1 commit] enable alt tracking module
02:53.07orionshockTorhal: how do u get your change log to look all trimmed up like it is?
02:54.21Torhalorionshock: Do you mean for ARL?
02:54.35orionshockarl or your collect one
02:54.42orionshock*Collectinator
02:55.37TorhalARL is still SVN, and for Collectinator, if by "trimmed up" you mean truncated, it automatically does that when you tag
02:55.47orionshockah
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03:17.29Repo10broker_altguild: 03yess 04v1.3 * r10 : Tagging as v1.3
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03:21.44Repo-sort the options a bit more (ocd in me)
03:23.40orionshockok i think i got the hang of git
03:44.33Repo10broker_altguild: 03yess * r11 Broker_AltGuild.lua: fixed showing wrong guild members
03:44.59WobWorkorionshock: lies =P
03:45.15WobWorkOne never gets a hang of git, one only realises they understand yet one more command
03:46.50orionshockWobWork: true. Tho after reading a tutorial i understand tekkub's comment about git branches & their usefulness and why he uses them more than svn branches
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05:50.20Znuffhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGmLtrvQfOY&feature=player_embedded
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06:05.47hasteShadowed: this is what happens when you use ACEFORGE!
06:17.59asmodaiShadowed: ckk is definitely one I think. kaelten also seems to futz around with things. Wouldn't know beyond those two.
06:28.39ZnuffSVN comments are funny
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06:33.03asmodaiAhh, nothing like the sound of pile driving in the early morning.
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07:02.52ArrowmasterShadowed: im completely willing to delete any healbot files you want me to from curse for intentionally breaking your library
07:03.19Arrowmasteror kicking the entire project to 'approval required'
07:03.33Arrowmastermaking it get temporarly removed from curse
07:04.13asmodaiWait, what?
07:04.15ShadowedIs that even allowed Archarodim
07:04.17Shadoweder Arrowmaster
07:04.20asmodaiintentionally breaking his library?
07:04.40ShadowedHe's not intentionally breaking, but he has an option that hard disables it
07:04.44Arrowmasterim a moderator on wowace and curseforge, i can remove anything i want if i have a good reason
07:04.53ShadowedWell, yes he is intentionally disabling, but not breaking
07:05.22asmodaiWhy would someone add such a thing?
07:05.24ShadowedArrowmaster: Removing/approval required is a bit extreme, even if it is his idiocy. I'll just stop his hack and if he continues yell at him more
07:05.38Arrowmasteri hate asshats that intentionally fuck with other peoples stuff, so say the word and it will be done
07:05.41ShadowedBecause he's a terrible programmer
07:05.49ShadowedIf he keeps trying to get around it I'll bug you Arrowmaster
07:07.23Arrowmasterill just use the 'not a benifit to the community' excuse i used when i banned bangerz for his pvp addon that had the hidden feature of PMing him anytime somebody on his server and faction targeted him
07:07.45Arrowmasterbut ofcourse not go that far with the punishment
07:07.54ShadowedPretty sure Bangerz still hates me for posting a script that was a "keygen"
07:08.39Arrowmasteri banned multiple accounts using email addresses from his site and ip
07:10.43profalbertomg, healbot "hardpacks" Sharedmedia? what happens if one wants to install both "SharedMedia" and "Healbot" with CC?
07:11.00Arrowmasterit does?
07:11.20Arrowmasterdont make me download it to check
07:11.25profalbertyep
07:11.27profalbert3.0.1-177
07:11.33Shadowedah so it does
07:11.43Arrowmasteri happen to be listed as an author of SharedMedia
07:11.45ShadowedFuBar_HBskinFu, HealBot, SharedMedia, SharedMediaAdditionalFonts, TitanHealBot
07:16.01Arrowmastershould i send a simple "You do not have permission to include SharedMedia or SharedMediaAdditionalFonts in Healbot. Remove them."
07:16.13Arrowmasteror should i say 'remove them or i remove healbot'
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07:16.43kandarzThat's just bad form to hardpack a separate addon
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13:01.48pb_ee1Hey. Is someone using Guild Craft?
13:04.03orionshockpb_ee1: yo, author :)
13:04.24orionshocks/author/author here
13:04.35pb_ee1you forgot the last "/" ^^
13:04.39orionshockfigured
13:04.51pb_ee1Had a few questions on the updates between clients, how does it work?
13:05.17pb_ee1I mean, if I install the addon and a guild mate does as well, what am I going to see in my list if, say, I open my tradeskill windows?
13:05.30orionshockin a lazy way. one of the drawbacks is that if you have the browser open and recieve and update, you practically have to reload the UI to get anything new
13:05.31pb_ee1And him as well
13:05.54orionshockoh, just install & login
13:06.06orionshockwait for it ~ 20 -30 sec then /gcb
13:06.12pb_ee1Ow.
13:06.15orionshockor click the ldb launcher
13:06.39pb_ee1And what about crafts known by offline players? Let me describe a little use case:
13:06.45orionshock& that 20-30 sec is a wide berth, really it's ready with in the first 10 sec or so
13:06.57pb_ee1Hehe oki ;-)
13:07.04pb_ee11) Roger installs the addon. He logs in.
13:07.18pb_ee12) Raoul logs in, and both play a few hours.
13:07.24pb_ee13) Roger logs off.
13:07.28pb_ee14) I log in. What happens?
13:07.36pb_ee1Do I see Roger's crafts?
13:07.38orionshockyou get raoul's data
13:07.55pb_ee1Yeah, that for sure ;-)
13:07.57orionshockyou can specifically pull roger's stuff from raoul but you have to ask for it
13:08.15pb_ee1Ho I've seen that on the addon's main page
13:08.23orionshock"3rd party pull"
13:08.29pb_ee1That's it
13:09.05pb_ee1I am simply trying to get the differences between Guild Craft and Crafts
13:09.13orionshockjust remember, it's for professional crafters, not people leveling. Also not a replacement for wowhead adv search
13:09.26pb_ee1Yeah no worries hehe :p
13:09.43orionshockpb_ee1: hehe... i wondered that myself... & come to find out that Crafts is about 3 ideas behind me in how it works.
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13:10.00pb_ee1How that?
13:10.26orionshockcrafts only works by you having to manually open the link, 2 scans the list manually & saves each item by id & has no addon lvl communication
13:11.41orionshockwith GuildCraft the only time you have to open a link is when the person your getting the link from dosn't have the addon. & GC decodes tradeskill links instead of saving a huge ugly table of id's
13:12.16pb_ee1Actually Crafts shouldn't support links; but that's a bug it seems ;
13:12.17pb_ee1;p
13:12.41pb_ee1Well, you're talking about which addon exactly?
13:12.45pb_ee1Just to be sure, if you have a link
13:13.30orionshockhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/craftdb/
13:13.38pb_ee1Ho wokay!
13:13.49orionshockhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/craft/  this addon and GuildCraft have no relation
13:13.52pb_ee1I was talking about http://www.wowace.com/addons/crafts/
13:14.19orionshockwell in that case pb_ee1 ya, no relation.
13:14.49pb_ee1I'm not asking you these questions to know which one is the best; I'm trying to figure out the differencies so people can make the better choice based on what they are looking for
13:16.07orionshockwell guild craft - as the description says, shows you who can make what & what the mats are. nothing really more or less
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13:17.57pb_ee1Yes. Really awesome & handy addon.
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13:19.56orionshock<PROTECTED>
13:21.12pb_ee1hum... AmarokK?
13:21.20pb_ee1http://amarok.kde.org/
13:21.28pb_ee1-k, thus
13:21.30orionshocktried, blows & hangs sadly
13:21.35pb_ee1:'(
13:21.40pb_ee1iTunes? :D
13:22.01pb_ee1The one I use for tagging my mp3's is MusicBrainz
13:22.02orionshockiirc didn't have a linux client... tho i might be able to get it to work with crossover
13:22.03pb_ee1http://musicbrainz.org/
13:22.22pb_ee1it's not able to play music though: just tagging and reorganizing music
13:22.32pb_ee1able to find the name of music such as "unknown_03.mp3"
13:22.38pb_ee1musics *
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13:23.46orionshockpb_ee1: so if you have a folder with 100+ assorted files of random music, it'll re folder them by artist/album/track.mp3 ?
13:24.00airtonixorionshock, you can do this with a bash script
13:24.17orionshockairtonix: not that smart :(
13:24.17pb_ee1It'll try to, but you'll be able to choose exactly what you want to do with your files
13:24.35pb_ee1The music database is very good. Not AMG, but very, very good.
13:24.57winkillerwhen I drink this chocolate milk through the small hole on top of the can I sound like a Murloc
13:24.59pb_ee1Ho and it saves the covers of the album in the mp3 if you wish too (plugin needed however, Python)
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13:25.48pb_ee1I find it very handy, i renamed more than 8GB of music with that program. Speedy, not destroying your files either
13:28.07orionshocktrying
13:28.17airtonixorionshock, which distro are you using ?
13:28.41orionshockubuntu 9.10
13:28.52airtonixsudo apt-get install easytag-aac
13:29.05airtonixhttp://easytag.sourceforge.net/
13:29.18airtonixexactly what you want
13:29.42airtonixyou need your multiverse repo enabled
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13:30.08orionshockgot easy tag :) and it's nice. But that just metadata, i've got ~30g mixed and disorganised music files
13:30.41airtonixno it moves files too
13:30.41winkillermp3tag is nice as well (windows)
13:34.18orionshockairtonix: it does?
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13:35.00orionshocksob, "Rename Files & _Directory_"
13:35.04orionshock>.>
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14:15.52Funkeh`Torhal, ARLFrame.lua:777: attempt to index global 'vendor' (a nil value)
14:18.44pb_ee1orionshock, found what you were looking for?
14:20.48orionshockvaguely
14:22.42orionshocki've got a system i think, pull the files to stage. use find utility to grab non-mp3 files - drag drop to converter, rename & tag with easytag, dump to 1 directory then use easy tag to move chit around..
14:22.44orionshock>.>
14:30.15pb_ee1did you try MusicBrainz? I'm not telling you to USE it, but at least to test it ;p
14:34.24orionshockpb_ee1: after maybe for missing things, but it didn't seem to understand (or i) what i (or it) wanted to do.
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14:41.26pb_ee1woki hehe
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15:09.52asmodaipb_ee1: Musicbrainz Picard++
15:12.06orionshockok, it worked, one hell of a hack job. Using EasyTag, i filled in the tags and renamed everything like i want it. Then dumping EVERYTHING into one folder & using EasyTag again i was able to have it move the files around by artist and album...
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15:14.32asmodaihttp://yepyep.gibbs12.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/twilight_moms_by_inlovewitedwardc.jpg
15:15.06orionshockasmodai: that is sooo true
15:15.19asmodai:D
15:16.16pb_ee1asmodai: \o/
15:23.41Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r695 Coldarra/Ormorok_the_Tree-Shaper.lua: Use displayName
15:26.51Repo10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r145 / (4 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 15 lines)
15:26.53RepoFuBar_ConvergeFu:
15:26.54Repo+ Added: Guild Status Check: MainOfficerNoteCheck. (Checks that main characters do not retain trial-rank date information.)
15:26.56Repo+ Added: Buff Monitor: New 'Check My Buffs' option added to the Reports options. Saves waiting for someone to perform a ready check!
15:26.57Repo+ Added: Buff Monitor: Issue Tracking. Personal buff-checks can now indicate whether or not issues were found and therefore whether or not a player is 'ready'.
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15:27.41sb|work@describe FuBar_ConvergeFu
15:27.43Reposb|work: No project found that matches 'fubar_convergefu'
15:27.53sb|work@describe fu-bar_converge-fu
15:27.54sb|workmeh
15:27.54Reposb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/fu-bar_converge-fu/. FuBar_ConvergeFu. A FuBar plugin for Converge Guild Officers.
15:28.10sb|workwhy fubar... :/
15:28.19Repo10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant 04v3.59-release * r146 : FuBar_ConvergeFu: Tagging this as a proper release.
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15:34.20Celesssvn is asking for a password on the client side, my pub and priv keys havnt changed.  still same on curse web too
15:34.59Celessand yes pageant is loaded and with the corret priv key
15:35.14orionshockCeless: then your doing it wrong. if svn is asking for a pw then your using the std url to commit to instead of the svn one :)
15:35.21orionshock3rd address on the repo page
15:35.43orionshock<PROTECTED>
15:37.06orionshockie use the one that starts with  svn+ssh://svn@svn.wowace.com/
15:37.28AckisCeless: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2015-repo-out-of-space-on-device-repo-dead/ <-- that fixed I'm assuming?
15:38.07orionshockackis - request - delete repo: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/guildcraft/repositories/wotlk-branch/  it's a dead end that someone created
15:38.31orionshock<PROTECTED>
15:38.50Ackisit's deleted
15:39.00orionshockthank you :)
15:39.07Ackisyw
15:39.07Repo10buffthetree: 03stolenlegacy * r11 BuffTheTree.lua:  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
15:39.08RepoAdded features:
15:39.09Repo- Set font
15:39.11Repo- Set font outline
15:39.13Repo- Set font size
15:42.22winkillerhttp://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r18/mbporche/catapult.gif
15:45.22Axodiousone does not simply catapult  into mordor
15:45.24stolenlegacypackager dead again? :/
15:45.50Ackisyup
15:45.52CelessYR
15:45.56stolenlegacysigh
15:46.42Celesscan make one of your own taking an existing package and replacing what changed, upload and ask for it to be aproved
15:47.26Ackisyou can or just have a bit of patience, I just found out the packager isn't working :P
15:47.50Ackisjust need to poke the right person at Curse to get it up and running agin
15:47.52Ackis*again
15:47.58Celessyes or that
15:48.08winkillerone does not simply package releases into curse
15:48.40Axodiouslol
15:48.54winkiller.oO( Fellowship of the SCRUM )
15:48.56Ackisit seems every long weekend something blows up
15:49.37Celesswhich is why th upload thing is nice if yu have a major bug
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15:50.35stolenlegacyhttp://geekality.com/gallery2/d/416-1/professor+oak.jpg
15:50.43Axodiousit's ckk's fault!
15:50.46stolenlegacydid i already post that one?
15:50.46Axodiousj/k lol
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15:51.24stolenlegacyckk, get your packager a kick in the butt from me, pls
15:51.59KashinCould someone help me with understanding the slash commands
15:52.06stolenlegacyKashin: sure
15:52.06KashinCan't seem to make em work
15:52.30KashinJust started @ addons so no fancy ;D
15:52.41stolenlegacytwo steps
15:53.08stolenlegacya) you add an entry to the SlashCmdList table
15:53.18stolenlegacySLASH_CMD_LIST["KASHINADDON"] = func_ref
15:53.27stolenlegacythis points to the function that will be called
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15:54.00Kashinfunction Frame1:Initialise()
15:54.00Kashin<PROTECTED>
15:54.00KashinSlashCmdList["TEST"] = function() Frame1:Show() end
15:54.06KashinThis is what i have atm.
15:54.11stolenlegacyno
15:54.39stolenlegacyfunction Frame1:Initialise()
15:54.40stolenlegacySlashCmdList["TEST"] = function() Frame1:Show() end
15:54.49stolenlegacySLASH_TEST1 = '/text'
15:54.50stolenlegacyend
15:56.05Kashinhmm
15:56.41KashinStill ain't working
15:56.56KashinWe agree that ["TEST"] is the addon name yes?
15:57.04stolenlegacyTEST can be anything
15:57.12ShadowedIt generally is the addon name, but it can be whatever
15:57.13stolenlegacyit's the slash cmd's identifier
15:57.20stolenlegacyTEST is a very bad one
15:58.07Kalrothdo you mean test or text?
15:59.13KashinWell i'm assuming that my functions is wrong then, since it won't show the frame
15:59.25winkilleryou've been framed
15:59.43Kalrothmake your function output a debug message as well as the frame
15:59.47stolenlegacyi just did /run SlashCmdList["QWERTZ"] = function() print("lol") end SLASH_QWERTZ1 = "/qwertz";
15:59.54stolenlegacythen entered /qwertz
15:59.58stolenlegacyand it printed lol
16:00.12Kalrothstolenlegacy it did lol
16:00.17stolenlegacyKalroth: :D
16:00.22Fiskeryou wouldn't bring a fisker down Shadowed
16:00.58KalrothFisker: I got an awesome tip for you btw
16:01.37winkillerI alos just have
16:01.39winkillerSLASH_gng1 = "/gng";
16:01.39winkillerSlashCmdList["gng"] = Main;
16:01.52winkillerand one function Main(param1)
16:02.03stolenlegacywinkiller: yeah, also possible
16:02.14stolenlegacyno difference, both pass a func ref
16:02.15winkillerthat beast is weird
16:02.22winkilleryeah, just sayin :)
16:02.27winkillerwhen I needed this
16:02.32winkillerI had to dissect 10 addons
16:02.37winkillerbefore I found a SIMPLE example
16:02.43stolenlegacyyou can also just use aceconsole
16:02.48KashinAnyone mind telling me how im supposed to add a debug message to: SlashCmdList["LAGKAGE"] = function() Frame1:Show()
16:03.11winkillerI have 230 LOC
16:03.11stolenlegacySlashCmdList["LAGKAGE"] = function() print("debug") Frame1:Show() end
16:03.16winkillerI surely won't use any Ace stugg
16:04.42Kashinstolenlegacy nothing happens =)
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16:05.15stolenlegacyare you even calling that Frame1:Initialise() function?
16:05.46KashinProperly not, only been into addons for 30 mins -.-
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16:07.23KashinSo how am i supposed to call it then?
16:09.23Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r225 / (2 files in 2 directories): - code cleanup
16:09.47stolenlegacy^^
16:09.53stolenlegacyjust remove the function()
16:09.55Repo10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.49 * r226 : Tagging as 2.2.49
16:10.00stolenlegacyjust leave it in the file
16:10.05stolenlegacyso it gets called on execution
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16:11.00stolenlegacySLASH_LAGKAGE1 = "/lk"; SlashCmdList["LAGKAGE"] = function() Frame1:Show() print("debug") end
16:12.10KashinNot working :P
16:12.15Kashinfor me atleast
16:13.02winkillerlackage? lagkage?
16:13.16winkillercan we please stick to foo and bar?
16:13.34KashinWhen i type in '/lk' i just get the help message from WoW
16:13.38winkillerholy shit, a wave with 30 people is more mess than a facebook discussiomn
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16:15.40Ackisfyi, if you eat beats, and your poop is redish/bloodish colour, that does not mean you're bleeding.
16:18.56fewynmy shit turns greenish purple after drinking grape soda!
16:19.03winkillerTMI
16:19.54ckknighthey beautiful people
16:19.59ckknighthow you all doing?
16:20.04TrelaHello CK.
16:20.11quiescensrun
16:20.12stolenlegacyckknight: packager is down
16:20.16ckknightdarn
16:20.18quiescensrun for it!
16:20.25Trelastolenlegacy: Nice way to say hello.  :P
16:20.40winkillerckknight:  I don't want you and I don't need you
16:20.40nevcairielthe packager seems to be fine from the status page
16:20.54stolenlegacyTrela: it's important
16:20.55ckknightI'll restart it anyway
16:20.57winkillerIt's not your fault that you're always wrong
16:21.04winkillerthis is fun :P
16:21.17nevcairielits processing repos as we speak tbh
16:21.21ckknightyea
16:21.21ckknightit's going
16:21.24ckknightlooking at the live feed
16:21.40[Ammo]nomnomnom live feed nomnomno,m
16:21.57ckknightquite, [Ammo]
16:22.04[Ammo]how many tits per second are you getting on it?
16:22.12nevcairielheh
16:22.58ZnuffieI saw tits here.
16:24.54steevwhere?
16:25.03Znuffie<[Ammo]> how many tits per second are you getting on it?
16:25.03Znuffiethere
16:25.06steevFisker doesn't count
16:25.15ZnuffieI have a highlight on tits
16:27.14fewynwooo new tweetdeck is out
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16:31.12FtH|Daemonaanyone know if there is an addon that does ability prediction on twin valkyrs?
16:31.29stolenlegacyFtH|Daemona: you can't predict them, afaik
16:31.34FtH|Daemonaor something like a monitor that will alpha apps on cooldown?
16:31.47FtH|Daemonastolenlegacy they always rotate through their 4 abilities and then start again
16:31.51stolenlegacyah, you mean that one
16:32.02stolenlegacyi think someone in our guild uses that one that announces on the 4th one
16:32.03stolenlegacysec
16:32.04Fiskerbrain?
16:32.11FtH|Daemonatits?
16:32.18Fiskeri mean it's totally hard to keep track of 4 abilities
16:32.22Ackisfewyn: OMG NEW TWEET DECK
16:32.32Fiskeranyways as far as i knew it was fully random after the first 4
16:32.34FtH|Daemonagrabs iPhone to check
16:32.37Ackishttp://twitter.com/MMOUI/wow-ui-devs
16:32.59Fisker/shoo Ackis
16:33.03Fiskernoone wants cancer here :(
16:33.29airtonixinsert comment about not using iphones
16:33.32fewynit has zee geotagging Ackis
16:33.46AckisFisker: :P that's an important list
16:34.28AckisFisker: if you got cancer, I'd be sad.
16:34.41stolenlegacyAckis, i heard lying is bad
16:35.20Znuffiewhat? MMOUI is cancer? :-S
16:35.24AckisI didn't lie
16:35.26AckisI said the truth.
16:35.37AckisZnuffie: twitter is
16:35.41Znuffieoh.
16:35.45Znuffieright
16:35.58Axodioustwitter IS cancer
16:36.08steevwtf?
16:36.16steevwhat the hell is bleeters
16:36.35airtonixsheep bleet
16:36.40steevand what the fuck does this even mean "NBN Tas gets Telstra staffer as GM Considering Telstra run current basket case of wires here"
16:37.00steevsounds more like a markovian chain
16:37.08quiescenso.o
16:37.25steevthat is what i want for an addon
16:37.33Znuffieoh yeah
16:37.36Znuffiemarkov chains++
16:37.52FtH|Daemonahttp://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/IRzCPX7cIT8/Online-Guilds-Mirror-Real-Life-Gangs
16:38.15Znuffieguilds don't rape people
16:39.03airtonixa group of people making descisions ? no way
16:39.51steevZnuffie: have you see some of the pvp guilds?
16:40.00steevI BEG TO DIFFER SIR
16:40.30steevp.s. lol to "pvp guilds" on pve servers
16:43.44Repo10speedyactions: 03Shadowed 07master * 1.1-release-1-g4c1f56e SpeedyActions.lua: [+1 commit] - Fixed error around line 62 due to bindings being set on a function rather than a button
16:47.03KashinPlease. I'm dying to know why this ain't working: :P
16:47.05Kashinfunction Frame1:Initialise()
16:47.05KashinSLASH_LAGKAGE1 = "/lk";
16:47.05KashinSlashCmdList["LAGKAGE"] = function() print("debug") end
16:47.05Kashinend
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17:16.23Kaelteng'morning
17:19.46asmodaiKaelten!
17:20.06Kaeltenasmodai!
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17:20.20asmodaiKaelten: Sup mate?
17:20.24Kaelteneggs
17:20.32asmodaiHow?
17:21.19RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/store/international/ by Kaelten
17:21.20Kaeltendunno
17:21.29asmodaiScrambled?
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17:22.28Kaeltenthat's good, plus you can mix in cheese
17:22.36Kaeltensmall cast iron skillets are great for that
17:22.41asmodaiAh, but French or English style?
17:22.52KashinCould someone please tell my why this doesn't work. =) :
17:22.53Kashinfunction Frame1:Initialise()
17:22.53KashinSLASH_LAGKAGE1 = "/lk";
17:22.53KashinSlashCmdList["LAGKAGE"] = function() print("debug") end
17:22.53Kashinend
17:23.07Kaeltendunno, could try both and judge after the fact
17:24.42asmodaihttp://www.hardocp.com/images/news/1259591994JzS6kiUvRE_1_1_l.jpg
17:27.24KaeltenI've discovered a neat application for hamachi
17:27.33asmodaiKaelten: Oh?
17:28.07asmodaiPray tell. :)
17:29.04KaeltenI have it running on my home and work pcs
17:29.12Kaeltenitunes with me 3k songs at home
17:29.17asmodaihahahaha
17:29.23Kaeltenand here I can use the home lan networking stuff to play them
17:29.54Kaeltenso ya itunes lan sharing to over hamachi to stream my music
17:30.23asmodaiThought there were already such apps for that.
17:31.37asmodaiAny of you seen Windows 7 just go autistic and dropped all its network traffic? Only recourse is disabling/enabling the network interface to get it working again
17:32.59Axodiousnope
17:33.02Axodiouswhat nic card
17:33.15asmodainforce
17:33.31Axodiousi'm using realtek, haven't had any issues
17:33.50Axodiousbad cable perhaps?
17:33.59asmodaiFirst I thought: oh, bleeding hell, the TCP half-open thinghy
17:34.02asmodaiBut they removed that.
17:35.15Gazcan try forcing it to 10/100 half/full duplex instead of autodetect too
17:35.56asmodaiOhh
17:36.01asmodaiThat might be a good one
17:36.15Axodioushavent had that issue since gigabit first came out lol
17:36.20asmodaiThen I know it's not autodetection or autosensing screwing up.
17:36.21Axodiousthen again
17:36.25Axodioushavent used an nforce board since then
17:36.34Axodious;x
17:37.59Axodiousspeaking of network traffic, it only took like 10 registery edits but i finally got my network actually utilizing a full gigabit connection
17:38.23Axodiouswas only getting ~ half the speed before ~_~
17:39.08pentium166if only there was a registry edit that made my wireless network actually utilize speeds greater than what my nintendo ds is limited to
17:39.20Axodiouslol wireless
17:39.42Axodiousafk
17:39.50pentium166i have cat5 running across the floor now because the wireless sucks so bad
17:40.32Gazyeah gigabit is more sensitive to crappy cables/hubs. i had major autodetect issues when 100mb first came out, and when gb first did
17:40.58Kaeltenasmodai: maybe it is, but this was easy to set up since I already had hamachi done
17:41.27Kaeltenasmodai: I've seens similar behavior on a server it turned out to be a driver conflict
17:41.48Kaelteniirc with the video driver (cries that windows servers have video cards)
17:43.03KriLL3don't have to
17:43.07KriLL3works fine without
17:43.26KriLL3though stuff like VNC is useless if you do
17:43.56KriLL3but the admin panel remote desktop thing in WHS works fine sans graphics card
17:44.18winkillerit better does
17:48.45asmodaiKaelten: mmm
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18:21.50asmodaigrrr
18:21.53asmodaihappened again
18:22.13asmodaiSwitched it to 100 Mbps/fd now and also saw flow control was not enabled.
18:22.20asmodaiNow lets see what happens.
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18:26.57asmodaiEveryone gang up on Shadowed
18:27.01Shadowedmmm?
18:27.25asmodaiWe blame you, pikachu!
18:27.46Fiskermultiplies into hundred and jump on Shadowed
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18:28.21Fiskerhundreds*
18:28.45Megalonmodulos Fisker with 1
18:31.31asmodaiGrrr
18:31.44asmodaiThere it went again.
18:32.06kadrahilslaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout
18:32.47asmodaiIt has got to be some sort of starvation or too many connections or something.
18:33.20kadrahilyou should've fed it :(
18:33.39asmodaiHeh, I'm feeding it loads of data
18:34.10Ackisgangs up on Shadowed
18:34.14AckisLHC! CHARGE
18:34.51asmodaiWhat has CERN got to do with this
18:35.05Ackislarge hardon collider
18:35.13asmodaihardon? rofl
18:35.21asmodaiFreudian slip?
18:38.10Megalonhttp://www.focus.de/wissen/wissenschaft/bilder-der-woche/large-hardon-collider-angst-vor-dem-ende-der-welt_did_20458.html
18:38.18Megalonze germans also call it hardon collider!
18:38.23asmodaiHahaha
18:38.51asmodaiMmm, I wonder if somehow Win7 is being a bitch and putting it into power saving mode
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18:41.17Fiskerwhy so fail asmodai ?
18:42.10asmodaiDunno man, wonder if it's Windows 7 or the NVidia drivers.
18:42.29asmodaiI'm not alone though
18:42.30asmodaihttp://windows7forums.com/windows-7-networking/6884-network-adapter-repeatedly-disconnecting.html
18:48.50Primerasmodai: I had that
18:48.55Primerhad to revert to the MS driver
18:49.43Primeronce I did that, it never happened again
18:52.25Belazorasmodai: I have that too, but if I revert to the windows 7 drivers, instead of DC it freezes the comp dead in its tracks
18:53.27BelazorI ordered an INTEL EXPI9301CTBLK PRO 1000 CT DESKTOP ADAPTER PCI EXPRESS cause unlike Atheros, Intel isn't too lazy to make Win7 drivers
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18:57.53asmodaicries
18:58.00asmodaiBelazor / Primer : you guys are making me cry :(
18:58.12Belazorwhats your NICs manufacturer?
18:58.51Primerasmodai: why?
18:58.54asmodaiNVIDIA in this case
18:59.01PrimerI found the same topics when I ran into this issue
18:59.03asmodaiPrimer: meaning Win7 has issues :(
18:59.10Primerno, it's nvidia
18:59.14Primertheir driver is fucked
18:59.21Primerthe MS driver works fine
18:59.43RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/store/tax-information/ by Kaelten
18:59.47asmodaiOh
18:59.53asmodaiMmm, I could try backing out the driver.
19:00.00asmodaiBut is that safe mode trick really necessary?
19:00.04Fiskerhey Kaelten
19:00.08Primerno
19:00.09Fiskertax evasion
19:00.10Fiskerdo it
19:00.14AntiarcHeh, Kaelten, did I cause that? :P
19:00.19Primeryou just pull up device mangler and "revert"
19:00.20BelazorAll drivers for the P5K mobo series NICs are fucked
19:00.23Primerdon't even have to reboot
19:00.24RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/store/tax-information/ by Kaelten
19:00.26Belazordevice mangler
19:00.26KaeltenAntiarc: hrm?
19:00.27Belazorrofl
19:00.42AntiarcThe tax info publishing. I had to dig for a long while to find it before :P
19:00.43BelazorHAI IMA KITTY DURID AN I MANGUL UR DEVICES
19:00.48KaeltenFisker: :P
19:00.48Primer<-- windows hater
19:01.09KaeltenAntiarc: oh, didn't hear about that, it occured to me that nothing was posted anywhere really accessible when I went in to update it for the new international rules
19:01.12nevcairielAntiarc: they just realized us foreigners need to submit a form too, and in the process wrote the other page :D
19:01.17AntiarcAha. :P
19:01.19PrimerI just keep win 7 around for WoW, since I get artifacts in wine
19:01.58Kaeltennevcairiel: no info really existed until now actually
19:02.02Fiskerthat's pretty expensive to buy windows 7 just for WoW
19:02.07Belazor<-- Linux hater, I just keep it on my VPN since I get file locking in Windows Server
19:02.08Belazor:p
19:02.13AntiarcI nuked my laptop and put Ubuntu on it last night. I'm fairly impressed with how polished it is.
19:02.16Kaeltenit was in small gray legalese print at the bottom of the store pages and you'd get an error message when chcking out from the store.
19:02.25nevcairielKaelten: sub text on the shop page :D
19:02.31PrimerAntiarc: you'll learn to hate it soon enough
19:02.32Kaeltenya
19:02.33nevcairielbarely readable
19:02.41PrimerBelazor: blaspheme!
19:02.43Kaeltenthat'd be the 'small gray legalese print'
19:02.45AntiarcPrimer: Eh, I've been working with Linux for ~10 years now.
19:02.49AntiarcI'm pretty comfy with it. :P
19:02.54PrimerAntiarc: ubuntu, specifically
19:02.57BelazorPrimer: I see your troll comment and raise you a NO U
19:02.58BelazorXD
19:03.16Primer<-- debian (and its derivatives) hater
19:03.27AntiarcPrimer: Any particular reason? I come from the Redhat line, and Ubuntu is my first foray into Debianland.
19:03.31Belazormy vpn runs centos5
19:03.41RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/store/international-taxes/ by Kaelten
19:03.43AntiarcI use Centos 5 on my servers, Fedora on my dev machines.
19:03.45nevcairielI never really liked redhat
19:03.51PrimerAntiarc: for one, their abhorrence of anything closed source
19:04.11PrimerAntiarc: they have a special way of handling kernel modules that aren't GPL
19:04.18AntiarcHeh, fun
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19:04.34Fiskerso Antiarc
19:04.38Primeronly for the sake of the license. There's nothing functionally different about them
19:04.40asmodainevcairiel: I have to use RHEL at work :'''(
19:04.46Fiskerare you going to sue blizzard for lost revenues when they nerf your addons?
19:04.56Primerso they add a layer of complexity that has caused many people grief in the past
19:05.02Primerowns #nvidia here on freeload
19:05.06AntiarcFisker: Nah, it's actually a monetary gain for me because I can spend less time working on them and more time on real work! \o/
19:05.20BelazorThis discussion proves my hate for Linux, people cant even agree on a fucking distro. The entire Linux scene is like a mountain range of anthills; people swarming to their anthill of choice and not working together.
19:05.38PrimerBelazor: I will concede that point
19:05.44AntiarcBelazor: Err, okay? People always have their opinions in anything, not just Linux
19:05.52Primerbut Linux itself is a different story
19:05.52AntiarcI use Pidgin on Windows, Joe uses Trillian, Barry uses mIRC
19:06.00FiskerLinux is like piracy
19:06.04AntiarcDoesn't mean that the IRC client scene is a horrid mess collapsing in on itself
19:06.08KaeltenAntiarc: all of our server's are ubuntu
19:06.26StanzillaKaelten: your servers fail all the time!
19:06.28Stanzilla*hides*
19:06.31nevcairielAntiarc: sometimes his point is true though
19:06.43nevcairielnot as extreme as people make it out to be
19:06.44nevcairielbut still
19:06.50PrimerI have never experienced any sort of issue I couldn't fix by myself on Linux
19:06.51KaeltenStanzilla: na we've got some with pretty impressive uptimes
19:06.51AntiarcSure, but a light convo about distro preferences is hardly a board-up-the-children-and-get-the-guns argument
19:06.59PrimerYou simply cannot say the same for windows
19:07.05PrimerWindows is a HUGE clusterfuck
19:07.17BelazorAntiarc: IRC clients aren't something people formats their computers to install :p That's my point, Linux will never achieve mainstream desktop penetration as long as people can google <error> + linux and find 20 different answers for 20 different distros :p
19:07.29Fiskerit's piracy
19:07.46PrimerI recently availed myself of Microsoft's free support for windows update problems
19:08.01AntiarcBelazor: Eh, I rarely have issues solving an error message. I mean, heck, there are differences in solutions for the same error between Win 98 and Vista, or whatnot
19:08.07Primerspent a WEEK with them trying to figure out why my laptop wouldn't update (I needed IE 8 for work)
19:08.19AntiarcSure, there's fragmentation but that isn't what's keeping Linux from becoming mainstream
19:08.26BelazorAntiarc: And you are Joe Average when it comes to OSes and Linux in particular, amirite
19:08.26Belazor:p
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19:08.48Primerin the end, they had to mail me a DVD so I could perform an "in-place upgrade", just to fix the problem, which then allowed me to fully update
19:08.52NivFreakshitty sound/video and desktop experience are probably the major barriers to linux being pleasant on the dekstop
19:08.53AntiarcBelazor: Joe Average can't figure out how to fix a "keyboard not plugged in" error before he ever gets to the OS. :P
19:08.55NivFreakdesktop*
19:08.57Primerand even that didn't go smoothly
19:09.13BelazorHurrhurr
19:09.19BelazorYou get my point anywya
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19:10.30KaeltenAntiarc: I'm impressed by the paper cuts project that ubuntu started
19:10.31PrimerHonestly, I don't even think it's the distro vs. distro that's keeping Linux from becoming a mainstream desktop as much as the KDE vs. Gnome thing
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19:10.39BelazorIm not inherently opposed to there being different distros, I just think the kernel and core functionality of Linux should be locked down so that all problems that aren't caused by a specific piece of software can be found on google without having to include your major, minor and build version of your potentially obscure distro
19:10.39AntiarcI see what you're saying, but I don't think it's quite as bad as you're making it out to be
19:10.48AntiarcAnd yeah, KDE vs Gnome isn't very beneficial
19:10.49Kaeltenidealistically I think it'll fix some of the problems with adoption
19:11.16AntiarcUbuntu is doing an awful lot to improve usability.
19:11.29PrimerLinux on servers is mostly standard
19:11.31AntiarcI mean, KDE/Gnome and their various applications in the past have been "nerdware".
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19:11.45AntiarcUbuntu is really making strides towards polishing out the rough edges for the common user.
19:11.49BelazorUbuntu needs to stop using a retarded version number scheme
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19:11.53taledenubuntu is a necessary step but they've made some blunders too
19:11.57taledenlike pulseaudio in their LTS
19:11.58AntiarcBelazor: Like Windows, rite?
19:12.16AntiarcWindows 7 (I mean 6.1) is pretty nice! :V
19:12.18Fiskerit's piracy
19:12.18KaeltenPrimer: from what I can tell windows is making a lot of headway into the server market
19:12.32PrimerAntiarc: and Gnome with their registry-like thing
19:12.39AntiarcWindows XP, which was also Windows 2000 v2, internally v5.1? Totally clear. :P
19:12.52PrimerKaelten: not in my market they're not
19:13.07Fiskerpolitics Antiarc
19:13.13KaeltenPrimer: I've seen a growing number of sites usings ASP.net and windows servers
19:13.20Kaeltennot saying it's a majority but it's growing
19:13.25BelazorAntiarc: Yeah they should be more like Windows, I agree. Make the version number play second flute to a recognisable name (no, poor wordplay doesn't count) but with a clear and incrementing behind-the-scenes version number.
19:13.30Primerwell, MS does have marketing
19:13.38Kaeltenwhat market where you refering to?
19:13.41PrimerLinux only has word-of-mouth
19:13.50FtH|Daemonadont you like your gutsy gibbon?
19:13.54Fiskernaw Primer
19:13.56NivFreakPrimer: that's not really true
19:14.01asmodaiKarmic Koala
19:14.04AntiarcNobody was promoting Karmic Koala launch parties with horrible youtube videos! :P
19:14.24BelazorBecause nobody gives a shit thats why
19:14.24BelazorXD
19:14.28Belazor<PROTECTED>
19:14.39AntiarcUbuntu's naming scheme really kind of mirrors OS X's
19:14.48PrimerKaelten: the Linux-only server admin market :)
19:14.48AntiarcI mean, it's not a carbon copy, but same kind of direction
19:14.59BelazorI actually think OS X is worse than ubuntu in naming
19:15.02Antiarcbrb, upgrading pidgeon
19:15.11kadrahiladium >
19:15.15asmodaiIt's been a trend with GTk for a long time now
19:15.20asmodaiSilly De Icaza
19:15.38FtH|Daemonadamn, my inner clock is totally messed up :( it's 8pm and i could instantly fall asleep, wake up at 2 am and then have to figure out how to be not like dead at 7 am :(
19:15.44KaeltenPrimer: lol, all that means is that as a linux only server admin you're not using windows
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19:15.59Kaeltenthat's like saying gay men don't use diaphragms for birth control
19:16.09AntiarcWow, I missed something in the 3 seconds I was gone
19:16.11Belazorat least ubuntu try to be funny. they're not, but they try. OS X is just some dude opening a national geographic book of cat family animals and throwing a dart. Oh, and when they charge for their service packs they just choose a subcategory of the animal of their .0 OS
19:16.14BelazorXD
19:16.24asmodaiis a happy BSD user.
19:16.28PrimerI wouldn't have picked that analogy
19:16.31asmodaiTake your Linux and shove it XD
19:16.54Kaeltennot meaning it derogatorily mind you, so I apologize if it was taken as such
19:17.12kadrahilthe shadowmourne video on mmo champion
19:17.22AntiarcASP.net is very much the domain of the "SUPAR ENTERPRISE CLASS" type of house
19:17.30Antiarcaka, the sort of place where middle management is making all the decisions
19:17.37AntiarcIf it's not enterprise, it's not good enough!
19:17.53AntiarcIt's solid tech, but it's got a stupid amount of operating overhead
19:18.08KaeltenAntiarc: heh, or the places where the guys making the choices are MS's fans
19:18.14PrimerI'm just saying that I couldn't easily migrate what I have to windows
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19:18.32asmodaibbiab, kicking ass with my colleague in Fat Princess XD
19:18.45Primerwe have a lot of dependence on open source libraries and programs that could not be easily ported
19:18.51AntiarcRolling out servers on Windows makes no sense to me, if for nothing else than the monetary factor
19:18.53KaeltenPrimer: absolutely not, porting a linux site to windows with few exceptions would be hard and tedious, and pretty costly
19:19.07AntiarcNew VM? Sure, that'll be $200 for a server license please.
19:19.13KaeltenAntiarc: well bizspark fixes most of that, at least for the startups
19:20.12KaeltenPrimer: getting curseforge to run on windows would be a nightmare
19:20.18BelazorBelazor: Inciting chaos in #wowace since 1986. 30th November 1986, in fact :p
19:20.20Kaeltenso I fully agree
19:21.04AntiarcI just love the fluid nature of Linux-based servers. Rollout, easy. Service management, easy. Package management and dependencies, easy.
19:21.12Primersame
19:21.26AntiarcI mean, I've been running Linux servers for 10 years, and a Windows desktop for maybe 15 years.
19:21.28PrimerLike I said before, there has never been an issue on a Linux machine that I couldn't fix for myself
19:21.40asmodaipackage management easy?
19:21.45Antiarcyum install foobar
19:21.46Antiarcyay done!
19:21.47Kaeltenasmodai: depends on your distro
19:21.53asmodaiIf I get my hands on the fucker who thought -dev packages were useful I'll keeeel him
19:21.53PrimerI've been using a Linux desktop for over 13 years now
19:22.10KaeltenPrimer: lack of games made that switch undoable for me
19:22.11PrimerI have screen shots dating back to 1996 :)
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19:22.23PrimerKaelten: meh, I also have windows
19:22.25Kaelteneven now I have an imac at home and next to it is my gaming rig
19:22.29Primerbut at one time I was a zealot
19:22.38taledenasmodai: I just had to install a -dev package this morning
19:22.43Primerand had nothing but Linux, and tried to get every game to work in Linux
19:22.45taledenrare, but happens
19:22.47AntiarcI stick with windows for desktop stuff, just because it really does have far better desktop app support than linux right now.
19:23.08AntiarcGetting Steam running under Linux is possible, but a massive pain in the ass
19:23.11Kaeltenbtw, I'm the linux SA here at Curse, so I'm not trying to come off as antagonistic
19:23.13Antiarc(For example!)
19:23.17PrimerI've not used a windows desktop for work since...1997
19:23.19BelazorYou fuckers, I just said it was my bday and you just keep carrying on with your discussion D: You are all degenerates and I hate you. I'm gonna viciously molest you all alphabetically, and in all orifices proceeding clockwise from your right ear canal.
19:23.21KaeltenAntiarc: crossover makes it pretty easy
19:23.51PrimerBelazor: happy fucking birthday you windows-lover!
19:23.56BelazorXD
19:24.09taledenwhether steam or any other 3d game works in linux seems to depend more on having an nvidia card with their binary drivers than anything else
19:24.12FtH|Daemonawelcome to the internet, Belazor, where noone cares since ...i have no idea when darpa started calling it internet;)
19:24.15taledenplus the occasional wine registry tweak
19:24.17KaeltenBelazor: Antiarc is a 7 foot tall giant, it'd be funny to see him try, if he didn't kill you his 5' wife would.  happy bday btw.
19:24.23AntiarcHahah
19:24.24krkawow, 23 years old and still crying about lack of attention like a 4 year old
19:24.27krkathat's impressive in a way
19:24.29AntiarcAnd yes, she is more viscious than me!
19:24.49krkaviscous?
19:24.58winkilleranyone did scroll of resurrection lately?
19:25.07BelazorPrimer: /me uses his win7-loaded memory stick in questionable ways
19:25.08winkillerI can't use it on 2nd account
19:25.17BelazorFtH|Daemona: gtfo D:
19:25.27KaeltenAntiarc is one of the few people I have to honestly look up to, ol
19:25.41BelazorKaelten: Storm Giant? :p
19:25.57Belazorkrka: Your mother -.-
19:26.23krkanorwegian... that explains it
19:26.39Primerwant to see a blast from the past? http://ceregatti.org/download/desktop/desktop2.gif
19:26.45BelazorYou do realise swedes are the butt of every joke over here, right?
19:26.56Primernote that date in the calendar applet at the top left. That's 1996
19:27.51krkanice Primer
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19:28.24krkathat was back when linux was a pain to setup :/ i especially hated PPP stuff
19:28.36Primerhttp://ceregatti.org/download/desktop/desktop4.gif  <-- word 6.0 in wine...in 1997
19:28.41winkillerPrimer: only got 10/00 here :P http://munich.art-core.org/images/desktop/home/20001008.jpg
19:30.40winkillerI see an IE4 icon., and a Netscape icon
19:32.11FtH|Daemonapffff
19:32.16FtH|Daemonacheck that: http://www.koaschten.de/web_backup/t-online/aqua-computer/untitled.jpg
19:32.25FtH|DaemonaDauer == Uptime
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19:33.01Primer40...minutes?
19:33.13Primerhehe
19:33.20FtH|Daemonano
19:33.21FtH|Daemonathats 40days
19:33.26Primerimpressive
19:33.32krkagroan.... uptime wankers
19:34.02FtH|Daemonaand i dared calling that win98 machine with ICS a router :D
19:34.30RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/store/tax-information/ by Ackis
19:34.55PrimerI feel like buying myself something...like, a wide screen LCD
19:36.10FtH|DaemonaDell UltraSharp 3008WFP ;)
19:36.15FtH|DaemonagoforitPrimer
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19:49.24RepoNew announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/rewards-program-terms-change/
19:57.46Primerlooks that up
19:58.44Primerholy shit, > $1k
19:58.45Primerfuck that
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20:24.46stolenlegacyis it possible to tell arkinventory to display the contents of bag 4 in a certain bar?
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20:38.24KashinGetRaidRosterInfo(raidIndex); -  How do i use a parametre link rank here?
20:38.30KashinLike*
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20:53.50Megalonwell, you could go to http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetRaidRosterInfo for example and ready :p
20:54.11Megalon2 = rl, 1 = promoted, 0 = not 1 or 2
20:54.12Megalon;O
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21:04.26HjalteI need help. I am experiencing packet loss it seems. Wow is unplayable. I am talking to another person who is living in the same apartment block as I am, and is using the same internet. How can I have her test if she is also experiencing packet losses?
21:04.36HjalteShe is, as far as I know, not great with computers.
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21:07.14HjalteOw, I feel alone. She's not answering and you're not answering.
21:07.55Megalonfinds a lost packet
21:08.48Ackisgo over to her apt, bang her, and forget about lost packets :P
21:10.16HjalteAckis: Interesting concept.
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21:18.34ckknightHjalte: gonna have to side with Ackis on this one.
21:18.49ckknightAlso, after the banging, go on her computer and do stuff yourself
21:21.37ckknightHjalte: really, it's a good excuse to go to her apartment anyway
21:21.40ckknightget to know her, etc.
21:22.07krkabang her? i 'ardly know 'er!
21:22.24asmodaiAnd why would one care?
21:22.24ckknightyou play WoW? I play WoW. We have so much in common. Oh wow, your bed's soft. Ooh, your breasts are soft, too.
21:22.26ckknightand so forth.
21:22.35asmodaiOne does not exclude the other.
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21:59.09IngelaShadowed, is it possible to get some options for speedy actions? like if i press the spell with my mouse, i dont' want it to be speedy gonzales? just normal so i can swap them around as usual but when i click 1 on my keyboard it's speedy?
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22:20.33TullerSo, I want to give away a good portion of my cursepoints in a way that is either entertaining to me, or productive in some fashion.
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22:21.43Stanzillabuy dvds :)
22:23.11Tulleri'm kindof thinking in some contesty way
22:23.25FiskerTuller
22:23.26Fiskeri hate you
22:23.43Tullertoo many waffles and not enough cheese?
22:23.48Fiskerno
22:23.55FiskerToo many changes no descriptions :(
22:24.01Tulleroh :P
22:24.23FiskerI figured that omnicc did COOLDOWNS as the name implies and not every damn fucking timer-related thing on anything ui ever.
22:24.43FiskerAnd Size Threshold prevented it from being shown on several addons so i were like "Screw you Shadowed"
22:24.49Fiskerand then he was like "Screw you Fisker"
22:25.17Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * v6.3.3a-beta-2-g0c25d1f SickOfClickingDailies_AltTracking/core.lua: [+2 commits]
22:25.19Repo0c25d1f: remove  first line debug in alt track & provide description
22:25.20Fiskerin conclusion
22:25.20Repof57abd8: reenable proper debug in AltTracking
22:25.20FiskerQQ
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22:27.19Tulleromni == all :P
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22:27.35Tullerthat's why the addon description is "cooldown count for _everything_"
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22:29.23Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 04v6.3.3b-beta * 1d5185c /: [new tag] Tagging as v6.3.3b-beta
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22:39.03ArrowmasterTuller: give them to me
22:39.20Arrowmasterthats both entertaining and productive
22:40.07Tullerresults may be surprising
22:40.46FiskerTuller a timer isn't a cooldown
22:40.55Fiskeralso size threshold is not even explained!
22:41.04Tullerbut it is a cooldown model :P
22:41.29TullerFisker: http://code.google.com/p/tullamods/wiki/OmniCC#OmniCC_is_displaying_text_on_Addon_and_I_don't_want_it_to.
22:41.30FiskerRenamed it to OmniC
22:41.37Fiskerrename*
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22:59.51tlundorionshock: lastest SocD is now load on demand, but it does not depend on an addonloader.. took me a whiles to figure out why it wasnt loading :)
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23:05.48orionshocktlund: ? it proper loads with addon loader iirc
23:06.04tlundorionshock: yeah, but i dont have an addon loader :)
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23:06.08ShadowedTuller: you quitting or something?
23:06.15Tullerno
23:06.42ShadowedIngela:  just disable Clique support
23:06.48ShadowedWhy throw away money? :p
23:07.20Tullerwaffles :P
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23:07.37IngelaShadowed, nono i don't mean like mouse button 4 or so, i mean when i press left click on a button on my actionbar
23:07.38Ingelato move it
23:08.07Shadowed? It already includes that
23:08.16Shadowedgo to /speedyactions
23:08.32Ingelai must have a old version then
23:11.48Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * v6.3.3b-beta-2-g47336bf / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
23:11.50Repo47336bf: also shouldn't be lod outside of AL
23:11.51Repod180755: shouldn't be LoD outside of AddonLoader.
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23:18.16IngelaShadowed ah i think i didn't explain myself correctly... basicly i want Clicking with left click on action bar = no speedy action, Clicking with keyboard button 1, 2, Q, 3, or what ever, = Speedy actions
23:19.13ShadowedAh no, that's not going to happen
23:19.34ShadowedIt would require creating a new button for every single key binding that would be sped up, and kills the pushed effect you get on buttons
23:20.19Ingelaaight, just checking if it was possible to do
23:23.37tlundorionshock: thanks :)
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23:35.19profalbertseruv
23:35.30profalbertah, damn it
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