| 00:06.33 | CobraA1 | Maybe I should just register for the forums. |
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| 00:06.52 | vhaarr | jeez |
| 00:07.03 | vhaarr | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ |
| 00:07.46 | vhaarr | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-gui-3-0-widgets/#w-interactive-label |
| 00:07.56 | vhaarr | SetImage(image, ...) - Set the image to be shown. Additionally to the path, any extra arguments will be directly forwarded to :SetTexCoord. |
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| 00:17.21 | CobraA1 | Seems like a bit of a kluge, but I guess it'll work. Already had some previous code for a reskinned button that used OnReceiveDrag, but I gues I can repurpose an existing control. |
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| 00:30.47 | mTx | hi, i've got a small issue.... i've done some changes to my addon and commited it via tortoise svn without any problem.. lil bit later i did a beta release via svn too, every version ist on curseforge, but there is no possibility to download the beta or alpha on curse.com |
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| 00:31.36 | mTx | PS: i can download the versions (alpha, beta) on curseforge. |
| 00:36.56 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r103 locales/enUS.lua: turn off enUS locale debug mode for source checkouts |
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| 00:37.33 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz 04r104-release * r104 : |
| 00:37.37 | Repo | Waited a few days, didn't get any more bug reports. Releasing |
| 00:38.24 | Archarodim | mTx: it can take some time to appear on Curse.com |
| 00:39.02 | mTx | i'm wating now 3hours ^^ |
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| 00:41.39 | vhaarr | mTx: are curseforge projects set to push alpha and beta releases automatically? |
| 00:44.28 | mTx | vhaarr: i don't know if that is the case. i thought that projects push their releases automatically if the devlopment stage is set to 'alpha', 'beta' or 'release' |
| 00:45.22 | vhaarr | probably |
| 00:46.05 | mTx | i did the first release yesterday and it was on curse.com after 1-2minutes |
| 00:49.13 | Funkeh` | curse.com propagation is currently down |
| 00:49.20 | Funkeh` | it's not your problem |
| 00:49.35 | mTx | alright, ty :> |
| 00:50.08 | mTx | next time i will ask earlier before killing myself for more than 3 hours :D |
| 00:51.46 | steev | tiem to lol as i attempt to play my girlfriend's enh shaman |
| 00:54.47 | Zeksie | Anyone able to fix my wowace.com account? Just needs a flag changing that got changed a while back, and got changed back again last night for whatever reason whether intentionally or otherwise :) |
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| 01:03.43 | Wobin | argh |
| 01:03.53 | Wobin | why do the stylesheets on Curse always break for me? |
| 01:03.57 | Wobin | and only on firefox |
| 01:07.23 | steev | cuz firefox sucks |
| 01:08.49 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:08.58 | Wobin | the packager isn't packing my .pkgmeta files |
| 01:10.01 | mTx | firefox is still better than IE :P |
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| 01:14.13 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 01:25.35 | Torhal | Wobin: What project? |
| 01:25.52 | Wobin | MrPlow |
| 01:26.01 | Wobin | I found a tab in the pkgmeta file |
| 01:26.07 | Repo | 10mr-plow: 03wobin * r118 .pkgmeta: MrPlow - Goddamn tabs in pkgmeta |
| 01:26.14 | Torhal | That'll do it |
| 01:26.15 | Wobin | which could be the cause |
| 01:26.58 | Repo | 10mr-plow: 03wobin * r119 .hgtags: Repackager |
| 01:27.41 | Wobin | awesome |
| 01:27.55 | Wobin | now why does Curse screw up in Firefox? =) |
| 01:28.35 | Gaz | tried disabling all your (firefox) addons? |
| 01:28.40 | Gaz | or resetting your profile? |
| 01:29.03 | Wobin | that's a very Blizzard response =P |
| 01:30.06 | Wobin | the real question is really "Why haven't you got firebug installed?" |
| 01:34.24 | Repo | 10mr-plow: 03wobin * r121 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed embeds.xml |
| 01:34.26 | Repo | MrPlow - er added to the embeds.xml |
| 01:37.33 | Wobin | it appears I'm not downloading the jquery |
| 01:37.40 | Wobin | or CurseUtils |
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| 01:47.00 | Antiarc | I wrote a useless twitter app \o/ |
| 01:47.00 | Antiarc | http://secret2everyone.com/ |
| 01:48.07 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2702 ARLFrame.lua: The General and Obtain filter panels are now dual-column. |
| 01:48.09 | Repo | Ripped code out of CreateFilterMenuButton() to make CreateExpansionButton() |
| 02:06.10 | Wobin | Antiarc, that's pretty useless =P |
| 02:08.26 | Shefki | WTF "I think blood elves are sexy." |
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| 02:30.29 | steev | Shefki: at least it wasn't tauren? |
| 02:43.19 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 037destiny * r692 Icecrown (2 files in 1 directory): Fix issue local |
| 02:43.26 | Repo | 10handy-notes_charon: 03zarevak * r17 / (2 files in 1 directory): preparing for first public beta ;-) |
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| 02:49.22 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 037destiny * r693 Dalaran/Cyanigosa.lua: Fix toggle Options for Blizzard |
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| 03:14.20 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r694 Icecrown/Grand_Champions.lua: Don't even need the LW Common anymore |
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| 04:16.35 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2703 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 04:16.37 | Repo | Re-anchored ARL_ExpGeneralOptCB to MainPanel.filter_reset, from MainPanel.filter_toggle, to match its physical location. |
| 04:16.38 | Repo | Moved creation of the filter toggle buttons from addon:InitializeFrame() to the main file body. |
| 04:16.40 | Repo | Moved CreateFilterMenuButton() to just before it's needed. |
| 04:16.41 | Repo | Moved CreateExpansionButton() to just after the creation of MainPanel.filter_menu, where it will be needed after further changes. |
| 04:23.53 | Repo | 10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak * r49 / (2 files in 2 directories): first part of frFR translation by "ckeurk" |
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| 04:25.37 | Repo | 10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak 04v1.1.12 Release * r51 : Tagging as v1.1.12 Release |
| 04:25.39 | Repo | frFR translation part 1 |
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| 04:30.26 | Repo | 10handy-notes_city-guide: 03zarevak * r16 / (2 files in 2 directories): frFR translation by "ckeurk" |
| 04:30.59 | Repo | 10handy-notes_city-guide: 03zarevak 04v1.0.5 Release * r17 : Tagging as v1.0.5 Release |
| 04:31.01 | Repo | + frFR translation by "ckeurk" |
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| 04:42.04 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.5_beta_2-8-gd9484bd / (5 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 04:42.06 | Repo | d9484bd: - Options management enhancements (correct behavior of the option panel when Decursive is disabled by command line) |
| 04:42.07 | Repo | 206a398: - fix a Lua error if Decursive gets enabled after being manually disabled by command line. |
| 04:42.09 | Repo | 3e12f07: - Fix for bug reported in ticket #34 |
| 04:42.10 | Repo | fc812d3: - Re-added /dcr disable and /dcr enable commands |
| 04:56.20 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r223 modules (5 files in 1 directory): Added and fixed some procs. |
| 04:58.34 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide 041.6.8 * r224 : Tagging as 1.6.8 |
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| 06:13.03 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r105 events.lua: localize some variables |
| 06:13.23 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz 04r106-release * r106 : |
| 06:13.25 | Repo | Waited a few days, didn't get any more bug reports. Releasing |
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| 06:33.56 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 07:42.17 | sztanpet | packager broke? |
| 07:54.17 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz 04r106-release * r107 : didn't propagate |
| 07:54.34 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz 04r106-release * r108 : |
| 07:54.36 | Repo | Waited a few days, didn't get any more bug reports. Releasing |
| 07:56.54 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz 04r109-release * r109 : |
| 07:56.56 | Repo | Waited a few days, didn't get any more bug reports. Releasing |
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| 08:11.47 | asmodai | om nom nom |
| 08:11.59 | asmodai | pompy: you were looking for me the other day? |
| 08:13.47 | Torhal | asmodai: You have a knack for talking to him after he's gone to bed :) |
| 08:13.57 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 08:14.31 | Torhal | NEIN! |
| 08:14.34 | Torhal | NIET! |
| 08:15.42 | asmodai | Torhal: he has a knack for talking to me when I am asleep :D |
| 08:15.49 | asmodai | NJET! |
| 08:15.53 | asmodai | kekko desu! |
| 08:15.56 | asmodai | etc |
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| 08:18.40 | Torhal | asmodai: Ah. Then, I blame pompy. |
| 08:18.48 | asmodai | Always blame pompy |
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| 08:22.39 | Znuff | Hi there. |
| 08:22.53 | asmodai | Where? |
| 08:23.15 | nevcairiel | There! /me points |
| 08:23.22 | quiescens | o.o |
| 08:23.25 | Znuff | There! Where you sit on! |
| 08:23.37 | asmodai | Aha! |
| 08:24.10 | Znuff | So, I'm playing around with ShadowUnitFrames |
| 08:24.23 | Znuff | and there's a tag called "creature" that has this function: function(unit, unitOwner) return UnitCreatureFamily(unit) or UnitCreatureType(unit) end |
| 08:24.47 | Znuff | how can I make it so it doesn't return anything if the selected unit is a player and not a npc? |
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| 08:26.17 | Znuff | by comparision, this returns the race if a player is selected, or creature type if a npc is selected: function(unit, unitOwner) |
| 08:26.17 | Znuff | return UnitIsPlayer(unit) and ShadowUF.tagFunc.race(unit) or ShadowUF.tagFunc.creature(unit) |
| 08:26.17 | Znuff | end |
| 08:26.20 | Znuff | ow |
| 08:28.57 | Znuff | http://pastebin.com/m2489fb5 <--- easier to read |
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| 08:32.25 | Shadowed_ | wheee internet randomly dying |
| 08:32.27 | Shadowed_ | Znuff: What about SUf tags? |
| 08:32.41 | Shadowed_ | All I saw was by comparison |
| 08:32.54 | Znuff | oh |
| 08:33.26 | Znuff | Shadowed, trying to create a new tag that returns the creature type only if the selected unit is not a player |
| 08:33.55 | Shadowed | function(unit, unitOwner) return not UnitIsPlayer(unit) and ShadowUf.tagFunc.creature(unit, unitOwner) end |
| 08:34.02 | Znuff | I'm not really happy with "Humanoid Undead" :P |
| 08:34.09 | Shadowed | haha |
| 08:34.25 | Znuff | also, any ideas why I can't edit in the edit box in /suf |
| 08:34.26 | Znuff | ? |
| 08:34.34 | Shadowed | What do you mean in the edit box in /suf |
| 08:34.38 | Shadowed | you mean for editing a macro? |
| 08:34.41 | Shadowed | errr, editing a tag |
| 08:34.45 | Znuff | yeah |
| 08:34.52 | Znuff | I can create the tag, but I can't type in the code |
| 08:34.55 | Shadowed | Increase the window size, it's an AceGUI -3.0 bug |
| 08:34.59 | Znuff | oh |
| 08:35.04 | Shadowed | blames nevcairiel |
| 08:35.26 | quiescens | sounds good |
| 08:35.30 | quiescens | blames nevcairiel |
| 08:35.46 | Znuff | same bug makes the scrollbar jump up and you click on something? |
| 08:35.49 | Shadowed | yea |
| 08:35.58 | Znuff | annoying |
| 08:36.00 | Shadowed | Basically anything visually is an AceGUI-3.0 bug :> |
| 08:36.09 | Shadowed | I get it too, so I'm going to try and fix it some point nthis week |
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| 08:40.37 | Znuff | Shadowed, what do I enter in the event field? |
| 08:40.45 | Torhal | OMFG |
| 08:40.48 | Shadowed | Just set it to auto detect |
| 08:40.56 | Torhal | I thought this was fixed: No space left on device: Can't close file '/repos/svn/wow/arl/mainline/db/transactions/2703-1.txn/node.0.0': No space left on device at /usr/lib/git-core/git-svn line 508 |
| 08:41.14 | Torhal | Hmm |
| 08:41.32 | Torhal | That actually looks like it's on my end, but none of my drives are anywhere near full |
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| 08:42.20 | Znuff | Shadowed, ..\AddOns\ShadowedUnitFrames\modules\tags.lua line 102: |
| 08:42.21 | Znuff | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.38 | Shadowed | Oops typo, it should be ShadowUF not ShadowUf |
| 08:43.36 | Znuff | right, let's see now |
| 08:44.34 | Znuff | bah, I need to relog? |
| 08:44.42 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.46 | Znuff | that didn't work |
| 08:44.58 | vhaarr | then you did something wrong |
| 08:45.00 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 08:45.02 | Znuff | spit out the same error after /rl |
| 08:45.25 | Znuff | -_- |
| 08:45.28 | Znuff | kicks wow.exe |
| 08:45.58 | Shadowed | You didn't change the macro then :p |
| 08:46.04 | Znuff | so, I'm 101% positive that that's "ShadowUF" there in the edit box |
| 08:46.15 | Shadowed | If you are still getting an error about ShadowUf, then no! |
| 08:47.18 | Znuff | http://i49.tinypic.com/34rhpv8.jpg |
| 08:47.21 | Znuff | tell me that's not a capital F |
| 08:47.59 | Fisker | bah |
| 08:48.05 | Fisker | me and the kraken are two north poles |
| 08:48.08 | Shadowed | You still getting the ShadowUf error then, or something else? |
| 08:48.08 | Fisker | rages |
| 08:48.13 | Znuff | same error |
| 08:48.23 | Shadowed | ... I have no idea |
| 08:48.25 | Shadowed | You hit accept? |
| 08:48.35 | Fisker | is it better than pb4? |
| 08:48.54 | Shadowed | Try /script print(ShadowUF.db.profile.tags.createnpc.func) |
| 08:48.57 | Shadowed | sorry try |
| 08:49.04 | Shadowed | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.05 | Shadowed | @#$)!(@#4 |
| 08:49.13 | Shadowed | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.18 | Znuff | [string "print(/spew ShadowUF.db.profile.tags.creaturenpc.func)"] line 1: |
| 08:49.18 | Znuff | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.24 | Znuff | oh |
| 08:50.05 | Torhal | Yah, it's WoWAce. |
| 08:50.08 | Torhal | Why the fuck does it always break on weekends? |
| 08:50.10 | Torhal | Bleargh. |
| 08:50.20 | Shadowed | It depends entirely on how you setup your unit frames Fisker |
| 08:50.23 | Shadowed | and your computer |
| 08:50.36 | Fisker | rages again |
| 08:51.33 | Znuff | Shadowed, it returns it corectly with a capital F |
| 08:51.58 | Shadowed | I have no idea honestly |
| 08:52.01 | Znuff | [10:51:44] function(unit, unitOwner) return not UnitIsPlayer(unit) and ShadowUF.tagFunc.creature(unit, unitOwner) end |
| 08:52.08 | Znuff | mkay |
| 08:52.11 | Znuff | let's delete the tag |
| 08:52.17 | Znuff | and create it with another name |
| 08:53.22 | Znuff | !@#$ |
| 08:53.48 | Znuff | I don't get it |
| 08:54.10 | Shadowed | I'm honestly not sure, but girlfriend + 1 AM = sleep, if you want to post on wowace or wowi or whatever I can look at it more in the morning |
| 08:54.56 | Znuff | I'm not pissed off that it doesn't work, I'm pissed off because it's reporting a small "f" |
| 08:54.57 | Znuff | -_- |
| 08:55.07 | Fisker | if it's better than pb4 i'll give you a cake Shadowed |
| 08:55.12 | Fisker | (but i already ated it) |
| 08:55.15 | Shadowed | do you even play |
| 08:55.33 | Shadowed | I thought you were like the scapegoat of the dev channels |
| 08:55.48 | Megalon | he plays with himself |
| 08:55.49 | Megalon | sometimes |
| 08:55.52 | Megalon | if that counts |
| 08:56.23 | Torhal | Shadowed: He plays when not raging. |
| 08:56.59 | Shadowed | so never? |
| 08:57.22 | Fisker | i rageplay |
| 08:58.59 | Znuff | frequencyCache[tag] = tagKey and (self.defaultFrequents[tagKey] or ShadowUF.db.profile.tags[tagKey] and ShadowUf.db.profile.tags[tagKey].frequency) |
| 08:59.04 | Znuff | line 102 of tags.lua |
| 08:59.25 | Znuff | pokes Shadowed |
| 08:59.26 | Shadowed | OH |
| 08:59.27 | Shadowed | how the hell |
| 08:59.42 | Shadowed | Sorry it's fixed next push |
| 09:00.06 | Znuff | better now ^^ |
| 09:00.15 | Shadowed | Sorry was checking through like 10 things before sleep, it's fixed and thanks |
| 09:00.29 | Fisker | cool guys don't sleep |
| 09:00.42 | Shadowed | girlfriends demand |
| 09:00.43 | Znuff | cool guys just go with the polyphasic sleep |
| 09:00.43 | Shadowed | y |
| 09:00.44 | Znuff | :P |
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| 09:04.06 | Fisker | man people are so ungrateful sometimes |
| 09:04.17 | Fisker | you help him kill 2 questmobs and then he tries to kill you |
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| 09:05.36 | Znuff | Hmmm |
| 09:05.54 | Znuff | I noticed that X-Perl adds a class icon even to NPCs |
| 09:06.13 | Znuff | but any function in ShadowUF doesn't report any class for any NPCs |
| 09:06.55 | Shefki | Class stuff on NPCs sucks ass. |
| 09:06.57 | Shefki | It's useless. |
| 09:07.12 | Shefki | Game always returns warrior, paladin or mage. |
| 09:07.15 | Fisker | and again |
| 09:07.25 | Znuff | rogue! returns rogue too! |
| 09:07.25 | Fisker | i help some alliance with chillmaw and they go berserk |
| 09:07.46 | Znuff | is it returned by UnitClassBase() ? |
| 09:07.52 | Shefki | No |
| 09:07.57 | Znuff | or just UnitClass() ? |
| 09:08.08 | Shefki | It's always one of those 3 doesn't matter what you do. |
| 09:08.31 | Znuff | I'm pretty sure I've seen Rogue on some NPC |
| 09:08.59 | Shefki | I'd challenge you to find me one. |
| 09:09.41 | Znuff | I'd love to take that |
| 09:09.48 | Znuff | but I can't figure out wich function returns that :P |
| 09:10.06 | Shefki | 2nd return of UnitClass or both returns of UnitClassBase |
| 09:12.20 | Torhal | Fisker: I challenge you to a game of Horseshoes! |
| 09:12.29 | Znuff | so with a selected npc, if I do /script print(UnitClass) I should get the value? |
| 09:13.41 | Shefki | How about: /dump UnitClass("target") |
| 09:14.24 | Fisker | NO Torhal |
| 09:14.25 | Fisker | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 09:14.40 | Megalon | wins |
| 09:14.55 | Trela | I have seen the game return paladin for rogue NPCs before. :P "ROGUE IN PLATE?!" |
| 09:15.11 | KriLL3 | seems to return paladin for anything with mana |
| 09:15.20 | Shefki | It's because all NPCs are built on one of three architypes. |
| 09:16.45 | KriLL3 | fighter aka warrior caster aka mage and what? rogue? |
| 09:16.56 | Shefki | Paladin aka healer. |
| 09:18.01 | quiescens | its warrior mage and paladin isn't it |
| 09:18.15 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 09:18.27 | KriLL3 | hmm, how do stealthing NPCs work then? |
| 09:18.34 | quiescens | its pretty much warrior = melee you, paladin = melee with spells, mage = stays at ranged and moves out of range if the target gets snared/stunned |
| 09:18.38 | Shefki | They can give them any ability they want. |
| 09:18.47 | Shefki | They just have 3 starting templates. |
| 09:18.55 | Shefki | That have roughy AIs for them to start with. |
| 09:18.58 | Shefki | rough* |
| 09:19.13 | Shefki | Warriors are going to be basically melee mobs. |
| 09:19.18 | Shefki | Mages will be caster dps. |
| 09:19.30 | Shefki | And Paladins are generally mobs that have healing abilities. |
| 09:19.42 | quiescens | nah |
| 09:19.54 | quiescens | more often it'll just be something that melees you but has instant cast spells |
| 09:20.16 | Shefki | Though Paladins get used for what quiescens just said too. |
| 09:20.22 | quiescens | not very many healing capable npcs to get a um |
| 09:20.27 | quiescens | fair representation though |
| 09:20.49 | Shefki | Paladin is the odd one that's pretty hard to explain, but every healing NPC is a Paladin that I've ever seen. |
| 09:21.14 | Shefki | At least if they actually cast a heal on themselves as opposed to having some oddball drain type debuff or what not. |
| 09:21.22 | quiescens | I think its more that it doesn't matter what spells the npc has |
| 09:21.30 | Shefki | Right it really doesn't. |
| 09:21.56 | quiescens | its pretty much just, if it says mage, it tends to try to stay out of range and if its paladin it is willing to go into melee |
| 09:22.32 | quiescens | presumably the vast majority of npc mobs use one of those scripts without any modifications |
| 09:23.04 | Torhal | I remember before 3.0 that all mobs that returned "Undead" for a race were immune to fear. |
| 09:23.15 | quiescens | they still are |
| 09:23.25 | Torhal | I've been fearing Undead in Northrend. |
| 09:24.00 | quiescens | mm |
| 09:24.14 | quiescens | well I don't know, but they weren't immune to fear effects |
| 09:24.41 | quiescens | they were immune to things like warlock fear only because warlock fear used to explicitly say it wouldn't affect undead or something |
| 09:24.43 | KriLL3 | technically speaking undead should be immune to fear, since they have nothing to fear, but that's problematic for a gameplay standpoint, since some classes rely on fear |
| 09:26.29 | KriLL3 | a lot of things in wow bend the lore backwards to make the gameplay work |
| 09:27.49 | Znuff | yay! I'm getting better at this |
| 09:27.50 | Znuff | function(unit, unitOwner) local class = select(2, UnitClass(unit)) return class and ShadowUF:Hex(ShadowUF.db.profile.classColors[class]) end |
| 09:29.21 | Torhal | Blort. Sleeptime. |
| 09:38.24 | Fisker | farts on Torhal|Sleep while he's sleeping |
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| 09:38.50 | Fisker | and it's those nasty ones too! |
| 09:42.48 | asmodai | Fisker: Installed 7 yet? |
| 09:46.05 | Znuff | 7 kicks ass |
| 09:46.42 | Znuff | hmmm, now I see |
| 09:47.06 | Znuff | in order to have GarbageFu show the price of grey items, you need to have Stubby enabled as an addon :-? |
| 09:52.28 | Fisker | LOL asmodai |
| 09:52.29 | Fisker | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 09:52.38 | Fisker | i've had it installed for a year or so |
| 09:52.51 | Fisker | you funny! |
| 09:54.51 | sb|work | then giev new SGU already! |
| 09:55.11 | Fisker | next week sb|work |
| 09:55.13 | Znuff | https://www.myalganon.com/img/purchase/alganon-ui.jpg |
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| 09:55.16 | sb|work | i know Fisker :/ |
| 09:55.23 | Znuff | Could this game be any more similar to WoW? |
| 09:55.27 | Fisker | then you also know the horrible fate after that? |
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| 09:55.45 | Fisker | lol |
| 09:56.15 | sb|work | you mean like no new eposides for 1/2 year? :/ |
| 09:56.18 | Fisker | yeah if they make those frames look anymore like wow i'd smell lawsuit |
| 09:56.29 | Fisker | something like th at |
| 09:56.42 | Znuff | can they make it more? :P |
| 09:56.42 | sb|work | but mh... should be 1 more episode this year |
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| 09:56.54 | Znuff | there is one more on 4th december |
| 09:56.58 | sb|work | because next week is "Justice" |
| 09:57.11 | sb|work | but 1x11 is Space (1) <-- 1 / 2, so has to be a break after that :p |
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| 09:57.54 | sb|work | there are no no-cliffhanger breaks in stargate* |
| 09:58.19 | Fisker | Justice will be the last aired episode as far as i can see |
| 09:58.20 | sb|work | or its some 3 part episode... |
| 09:58.34 | Znuff | that'd be shitty |
| 09:58.35 | Znuff | but, anyway |
| 09:58.40 | Znuff | what's with the long hiatus? |
| 09:58.54 | sb|work | http://epguides.com/StargateUniverse/ - mhhh |
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| 10:03.01 | Fisker | wtf |
| 10:03.05 | Fisker | exorcism can proc vindication |
| 10:03.19 | Znuff | V is another neat series |
| 10:03.22 | Znuff | looks promising |
| 10:03.57 | Znuff | but... ffs, march for a new episod? |
| 10:04.00 | Znuff | episode* |
| 10:05.18 | Megalon | unpossible Fisker |
| 10:05.31 | Fisker | naaaaaaaw |
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| 10:08.00 | Megalon | anyone around who knows all about dancing rune weapon |
| 10:08.08 | Megalon | like, what talents affect its strikes |
| 10:12.37 | sb|work | Znuff: mh - whats V? |
| 10:12.38 | nevcairiel | seriously, how did the server end up with a full harddrive *again*? |
| 10:12.41 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: fix it! |
| 10:13.00 | sb|work | Znuff: http://epguides.com/V_2009/ !? |
| 10:13.02 | Znuff | http://www.tvrage.com/shows/id-22814 |
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| 10:13.04 | Znuff | yeah |
| 10:13.05 | Znuff | that one |
| 10:13.15 | nevcairiel | V is kinda cool |
| 10:13.26 | Znuff | but seriously... march? |
| 10:13.38 | nevcairiel | wait, 4 eps and then 4 month break already? |
| 10:13.49 | Znuff | yeah |
| 10:13.59 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:14.08 | sb|work | uhm... "giev" :p |
| 10:14.21 | nevcairiel | i suppose the last ep had enough suspense to warrant a break |
| 10:14.22 | nevcairiel | but meh :P |
| 10:14.40 | nevcairiel | that tvrage page is funny |
| 10:14.48 | nevcairiel | "last episode: 1x04" next episode "1x06" |
| 10:14.51 | nevcairiel | wtf is with 5? |
| 10:16.42 | nevcairiel | btw did i mention that i hate US holidays? |
| 10:16.49 | nevcairiel | they screw with my tv experience |
| 10:16.49 | Znuff | me too |
| 10:16.52 | Znuff | god damn americans |
| 10:17.02 | nevcairiel | only monk to watch today |
| 10:17.30 | Znuff | I saved up on episodes of SGU and Criminal Minds |
| 10:17.58 | KriLL3 | I'm doing the same with heroes, for some reason I can't stand watching heroes one ep at a time, only works for me back to back |
| 10:18.03 | nevcairiel | mm i need a bigger harddrive soon, my tv drive is nearly full |
| 10:18.13 | sb|work | yup nevcairiel, saturday was like getting up, then watching SGU... :p |
| 10:18.20 | sb|work | "tv driver"? :o |
| 10:18.22 | Znuff | thank god I've got a 1TB hdd for tv series :P |
| 10:18.23 | sb|work | drive... |
| 10:18.32 | nevcairiel | Znuff: so do i, 860gb used :P |
| 10:18.48 | sb|work | i need a nice standalone player for that stuff :( |
| 10:18.49 | Znuff | well, also got some movies and games, but that's a small % :P |
| 10:18.52 | nevcairiel | but meh, the movie drive is nearly full as well |
| 10:18.59 | KriLL3 | I got a NAS running unraid, stuffed it full of all random drives I got + several new 1TB & 1.5TB drives, total of 5.3TB, about 80% full =P |
| 10:19.01 | Znuff | also I've got flexget set up to automatically download all shows ^^ |
| 10:19.03 | sb|work | dont want to run PC + VLC on satellite-receiver every time |
| 10:19.08 | nevcairiel | i should clean out, or build myself a NAS |
| 10:19.08 | sb|work | some recommendations? :P |
| 10:19.21 | KriLL3 | nice thing about my NAS is that it auto downloads from feeds etc |
| 10:19.28 | KriLL3 | I don't need to do anything |
| 10:19.32 | Znuff | same ^^ |
| 10:19.39 | KriLL3 | and I can shut down my power hog of a machine at night |
| 10:19.42 | Znuff | sb|work, popcorn hour, or buy a nVidia ION board |
| 10:19.44 | sb|work | standalone HD capable player (h246, +divx and stuff), low power consumption, silent (!) |
| 10:20.03 | nevcairiel | build yourself a passively cooled ION machine |
| 10:20.05 | Znuff | personally I'd go with a nvidia ion + xbmc under linux |
| 10:20.10 | sb|work | 264 even :/ |
| 10:20.14 | Znuff | xbmc kicks ass |
| 10:20.26 | sb|work | IR controlled? |
| 10:20.38 | Znuff | you can do that, too |
| 10:20.49 | KriLL3 | xbmc is ok, but I don't like that it's so weird in places, overly complicated and doesn't have native remote control support |
| 10:21.00 | Znuff | KriLL3, it does now |
| 10:21.10 | Znuff | also, you could try Boxee |
| 10:21.12 | Znuff | based on xbmc |
| 10:21.18 | Znuff | http://www.boxee.tv/homepage/ |
| 10:21.21 | KriLL3 | yeah I know, but it's even odder |
| 10:21.29 | KriLL3 | merges movies and TV into one category etc |
| 10:21.38 | Znuff | boxee? |
| 10:21.38 | KriLL3 | "Videos" |
| 10:21.40 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 10:21.44 | Znuff | (haven't tried it myself) |
| 10:21.54 | Znuff | just running XBMC on an old XboX :) |
| 10:22.07 | nevcairiel | mm 4 1.5tb drives, some mobo and cpu .. i still have an old PSU and case .. wonder how much i have to pay for a simple home-brew NAS :P |
| 10:22.13 | KriLL3 | Znuff: does xbmc work out of the box with a Media center remote? |
| 10:22.22 | Fisker | get a drobo nevcairiel |
| 10:22.24 | Znuff | KriLL3, don't own one :-( |
| 10:22.30 | KriLL3 | Fisker: drobos aren't fast enough sadly |
| 10:22.34 | Znuff | and I'm too lazy to check their forum |
| 10:22.54 | Fisker | drobo KriLL3 |
| 10:22.57 | Fisker | drobo drobo drobo |
| 10:22.58 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I built my NAS from old spare parts and some new big drives, so nothing as long as you don't count the storage into the equation |
| 10:23.01 | nevcairiel | Fisker: sure, because i'm made of money |
| 10:23.05 | Znuff | doesn't know what a drobo is |
| 10:23.16 | KriLL3 | Znuff: USB attached 4 drive cage |
| 10:23.21 | Znuff | oh |
| 10:23.31 | KriLL3 | USB being the flaw |
| 10:23.33 | KriLL3 | and the price |
| 10:23.36 | nevcairiel | droboelite is iSCSI |
| 10:23.37 | sb|work | http://www.drobo.com/ <-- |
| 10:23.41 | Znuff | I figured as much |
| 10:23.43 | nevcairiel | but seriously expensive |
| 10:23.44 | Fisker | get a drobo elite KriLL3 |
| 10:23.44 | Fisker | :D |
| 10:23.55 | KriLL3 | Fisker: why? I got a much better NAS already |
| 10:23.56 | Znuff | wait, wut? |
| 10:24.00 | Znuff | $4300 |
| 10:24.01 | nevcairiel | 8TB (4x2tb) are "only" 4k USD |
| 10:24.02 | Znuff | fuck that shit |
| 10:24.04 | Znuff | for 8tb |
| 10:24.24 | Znuff | I'd rather pin my drive in nails on a wall |
| 10:24.25 | sb|work | but look at it, its cute!! :p |
| 10:24.25 | Fisker | that's what she said |
| 10:24.30 | Znuff | and draw cables around the house |
| 10:25.05 | KriLL3 | old ATX case with an old P4 inside, 5 drive railed cage inside and I managed to stuff a 4 drive HDD cage into where optical drives go, secured it with zipties |
| 10:25.19 | KriLL3 | frankenPC at it's best |
| 10:25.38 | Znuff | http://xbmc.org/team-xbmc/2009/11/22/xbmc-9-11-beta1-introducing-confluence/ |
| 10:25.38 | Znuff | cool |
| 10:25.39 | sb|work | Znuff: so ion+xbmc can handle 720p + got hdmi connectors? |
| 10:25.41 | nevcairiel | i still have an old big tower with loads of hdd space |
| 10:25.49 | Znuff | sb|work, can handle 1080p |
| 10:26.03 | Znuff | and ion boards have hdmi connectors, yes |
| 10:26.09 | nevcairiel | sb|work: ion was designed for home-media boxes |
| 10:26.14 | sb|work | i see |
| 10:26.25 | KriLL3 | my ATX can hold 9 comfortably, 2 more in the "internal" 3.5'' slots (not ideal for cooling, but still) and I could fit more drives to the bottom/side etc if I needed to |
| 10:26.29 | sb|work | nevcairiel: my gf would kill me for that (having old computer stuff around here - especially big towers :p) |
| 10:26.39 | Fisker | you wouldn't touch my weiner |
| 10:26.46 | nevcairiel | sb|work: its somewhere in the attic :d |
| 10:27.15 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: could route cable there =P |
| 10:27.15 | KriLL3 | NAS:es don't need to be accessible physically really |
| 10:27.24 | Znuff | sb|work, but I'm not sure that it can do HD hardware acceleration under windows |
| 10:27.37 | Znuff | I know it works perfectly under ubuntu |
| 10:27.52 | Znuff | might want to look into that, sometime |
| 10:27.53 | KriLL3 | yeah xbmc can do 1080p on ion under linux |
| 10:28.07 | Fisker | wmp does hardware acceleration |
| 10:28.07 | nevcairiel | accelerated video playback has worked on windows before linux knew about it, tbh :P |
| 10:28.09 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 10:28.10 | KriLL3 | but sadly has no GPU acceleration of any kind on windows as of yet |
| 10:28.23 | Fisker | they should l2p KriLL3 |
| 10:28.31 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: that's xbmc's fault really |
| 10:28.46 | sb|work | no problem, i dont care which os it will use - i just want a nice frontend (IR remote controlled with logitech harmoy one) etc. :p |
| 10:28.50 | Znuff | nevcairiel, yeah, but we're talking about opensource stuff |
| 10:28.50 | KriLL3 | Fisker: well most people running something like xbmc wouldn't do it under windows I think |
| 10:28.50 | profalbert | does wowmatrix still work? |
| 10:29.10 | nevcairiel | especially if you have win7 on it, it natively comes with an acceleration API |
| 10:29.41 | sb|work | so its WMC vs. XBMC and i have to figure out whats better here ;) |
| 10:30.20 | Znuff | well, can WMC do mkv? |
| 10:30.22 | KriLL3 | WMC is very restricted but it works, XBMC is the opposite, it's very open but it's also not terribly reliable |
| 10:30.31 | KriLL3 | Znuff: with the right codec pack yes |
| 10:30.42 | Znuff | I tought it didn't like codecs |
| 10:30.52 | Fisker | you don't need codec packs for windows 7 |
| 10:30.56 | KriLL3 | you do |
| 10:31.04 | Znuff | win7 doesn't "do" mkvs |
| 10:31.10 | KriLL3 | can't play .mkv etc natively |
| 10:31.18 | KriLL3 | http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html <-- the pack I use |
| 10:31.19 | Znuff | you don't need a codec for h264 decoding |
| 10:31.26 | Znuff | but you need a splitter for .mkv container |
| 10:31.28 | Znuff | s |
| 10:31.38 | KriLL3 | tailor made for windows 7 that pack |
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| 10:31.47 | KriLL3 | if you install it you could play anything in WMP/WMC |
| 10:31.49 | nevcairiel | packs are overrated |
| 10:31.57 | Znuff | You could just install Haali media splitter |
| 10:31.59 | Znuff | and that's about it |
| 10:32.03 | KriLL3 | it's included in that pack |
| 10:32.16 | Fisker | i just install divx's mkv shit |
| 10:32.18 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: generally speaking I'd agree with that, but that pack I like |
| 10:32.26 | Znuff | but meh, WMC is not an option for me |
| 10:32.27 | nevcairiel | i install haali, ffdshow, and coreavc .. thats all =p |
| 10:32.33 | Znuff | no subtitle support, if I remember corectly |
| 10:32.38 | KriLL3 | all in that pack, and pre-configured |
| 10:32.50 | nevcairiel | i doubt coreavc is in that pack, as its not a free codec =) |
| 10:33.17 | KriLL3 | hmm, think I saw it mentioned, might just have been a setting to use it though |
| 10:33.21 | KriLL3 | if it's payware |
| 10:33.25 | Znuff | CoreAVC is useful just for hardware acceleration with an nVidia card :P |
| 10:33.57 | KriLL3 | I dunno if I'm doing hardware acceleration, but I can play 1080p just fine so I don't really care |
| 10:34.04 | KriLL3 | though it might be my Q6600 that's doing that |
| 10:34.30 | Fisker | highend computers can easily do 1080p |
| 10:34.31 | Znuff | if you're not using CoreAVC and you have an nVidia card... then no, you're not doing DXVA |
| 10:34.32 | nevcairiel | coreavc also has a nice decoding quality, back when it first came around, it was better then the other codecs i tried, not sure how it is now, been a while |
| 10:34.43 | Fisker | it's easy to see though |
| 10:34.44 | KriLL3 | I play the vast majority of my media in GOM though, it has integrated codecs |
| 10:34.44 | nevcairiel | CoreAVC doesnt use DXVA |
| 10:34.47 | nevcairiel | its using CUDA |
| 10:34.49 | Znuff | CoreAVC is not really known for quality |
| 10:34.57 | Znuff | nevcairiel, yeah, my bad |
| 10:34.58 | Fisker | your cpu level should increase if you're watching 1080p |
| 10:35.10 | Znuff | but CoreAVC is damn fast compared to, let's say, ffdshow |
| 10:35.15 | nevcairiel | the MPC-HC internal codec can use DXVA for h264 decoding |
| 10:35.22 | KriLL3 | only thing GOM doesn't do well are those complicated subtitles with 2 independent lines at once etc, use MPC/VLC for those |
| 10:35.32 | nevcairiel | but DXVA isnt that amazing, compared to full CUDA |
| 10:35.54 | Znuff | wish all players would do DXVA or CUDA |
| 10:35.59 | Znuff | also, I kind of hate CUDA :( |
| 10:36.09 | KriLL3 | I like it, nice for softth |
| 10:36.24 | Znuff | apparently you need 256mbit of ram for h264 playback |
| 10:36.28 | Znuff | mbyte, I mean |
| 10:36.33 | KriLL3 | so? |
| 10:36.34 | Znuff | guess who has only 128? -_- |
| 10:36.42 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 10:36.52 | Znuff | got one of those damn TurboCache cards |
| 10:36.56 | Znuff | that "burrows" memory from the system |
| 10:37.04 | Znuff | but CUDA doesn't like that, so it gives me the middle finger |
| 10:37.05 | KriLL3 | well a 8400/8500 card has 256MB and costs next to noting |
| 10:37.18 | KriLL3 | Znuff: no one likes that |
| 10:37.18 | Znuff | laptop |
| 10:37.20 | nevcairiel | yeah it requires to cache a certain number of frames in memory |
| 10:37.44 | Znuff | a bloody laptop... |
| 10:37.52 | KriLL3 | kill it, kill it with FIRE |
| 10:38.07 | Znuff | I've set my eyes on a ASUS UV80t |
| 10:38.27 | Znuff | erm |
| 10:38.35 | Znuff | UL80Vt |
| 10:38.56 | Znuff | just waiting to see it on the amazon uk store |
| 10:39.13 | Znuff | at a fairly decent price, I hope |
| 10:39.35 | Znuff | Amazon.com has it for $823 |
| 10:39.41 | Znuff | local stores have it for $1505 |
| 10:40.47 | KriLL3 | it's funny really, my parents sit every day at the TV complaining about the crappy stuff on, and when I mention I got a couple hundred movies and TV show episodes on the NAS they light up, but when I explain that you need some box bellow the TV to access it they all of a sudden seem uninterested again |
| 10:41.19 | Znuff | I don't even watch TV |
| 10:41.24 | Znuff | I use my LCD TV as a monitor mostly |
| 10:41.42 | Znuff | maybe once a week I push the TV button to watch the news :P |
| 10:42.01 | KriLL3 | even demoed 1080p video using Iron Man for them on our bigass HD tv that has no HD content on it currently, they were really impressed, but still didn't get why I wanted to put a set top box there |
| 10:42.30 | Znuff | it just means more remotes for them :) |
| 10:43.02 | sb|work | get a logitech harmony then :p |
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| 10:43.47 | Znuff | sb|work, too many buttons? :) |
| 10:44.06 | Znuff | for old folks, 1 remote - 1 device is prefered, I noticed |
| 10:44.13 | sb|work | meh :) |
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| 10:47.40 | Fisker | that sounds illegal KriLL3 |
| 10:47.40 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 10:49.00 | KriLL3 | I also think they don't understand the concept of getting what you want when you want it, they just sit and get what ever is shoved into their faces |
| 10:49.23 | Fisker | weird though |
| 10:49.28 | Fisker | just tried windows media center |
| 10:49.33 | Fisker | doesn't play audio |
| 10:49.53 | Fisker | Guess ffdshow and it doesn't go well together |
| 10:50.16 | Znuff | KriLL3, that's old people for you |
| 10:50.27 | Znuff | they're used to that :) |
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| 11:30.08 | KriLL3 | 36:th ToC HC run and still no marrowstrike... |
| 11:30.12 | KriLL3 | blizz, you suck |
| 11:30.24 | KriLL3 | 37:th time lucky?... |
| 11:32.45 | Fisker | awww |
| 11:32.54 | Fisker | my panda sleepdragsitselfacrossvastdistances |
| 11:39.42 | Wobin | is there a ldb to fubar addon? |
| 11:40.01 | Fisker | broker2fubar hoho |
| 11:40.59 | Wobin | crazy |
| 11:41.03 | Wobin | thank you Mr Fisker |
| 11:43.14 | Fisker | this little gnome warlock turned into dust |
| 11:44.28 | KriLL3 | I don't understand why some addons still insist on using fubar |
| 11:45.30 | KriLL3 | though it's a bit ironic that I use titanbar for LDB... titanbar which was replaced by fubar years ago |
| 11:45.34 | KriLL3 | guess it's full circle |
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| 11:47.04 | Fisker | heh yeah |
| 11:48.24 | KriLL3 | anyone seen a LDB/titan plugin that's similar to FuBar_Money? in that is shows all alts on the same faction + realm and shows how much you earned and spent today & this session? titan one just shows this session and your total +/-, doesn't show what you earned and spent |
| 11:48.54 | KriLL3 | so if you earned 1k and spent 1k titan says you earned 0 |
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| 11:49.06 | Fisker | dunno |
| 11:49.07 | Fisker | try auditor |
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| 11:51.21 | orionshock | KriLL3: broker_currency |
| 11:52.30 | KriLL3 | ty |
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| 12:01.42 | orionshock | anyone here tried the new google wave? |
| 12:02.04 | Jygga | nods |
| 12:02.29 | orionshock | Jygga: u use it much? |
| 12:02.49 | Jygga | nah |
| 12:03.09 | Jygga | its great for brainstorming sessions |
| 12:03.18 | Jygga | we used etherpad for that before |
| 12:03.27 | orionshock | same impression. |
| 12:03.30 | Jygga | but otherwise its just too betaish |
| 12:04.00 | orionshock | after watching the intro stuff it screamed "i am a bizness app. normal people wont' use me" |
| 12:05.16 | KriLL3 | wave can talk? :o |
| 12:05.48 | orionshock | no but it can see you :) it has a "video conference" extention too it |
| 12:06.11 | KriLL3 | btw checked out icecrown citadel in PTR, I'm guessing the outside is far from finished? no real NPCs, flightpath etc just a hole in a wall, corridor and a room with 3 dungeon entrances |
| 12:07.01 | KriLL3 | and the quest to get there is just offhandedly given to you by an NPC outside the dalaran bank, hope there is an epic chain before heading to the instances |
| 12:07.52 | Jygga | actually i did a presentation on google wave as an exercise (random topic class) and the conclusion was that the audience didnt quite get why they should use it having to learn a new paradigm (document equals conversation) while recognizing it as a "nice thingy" |
| 12:08.03 | KriLL3 | also a bit odd that sylvannas says "I bet you're good enough to make it through on your own" I'm not sure if you're supposed to solo the first instance, though I guess not since the mobs are 80 elite... |
| 12:08.41 | kandarz | fyi: project syndication to Curse.com is broken. At least the last few days (http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2012-syndication-to-curse-com-broken/) |
| 12:09.35 | Jygga | i tried shedding some light on the possibilities we get with the protocol but that was too complex for most of the biology/business people |
| 12:10.26 | KriLL3 | everyone knows that people only go to business school to impress their parents and to wear suits all day |
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| 12:16.17 | orionshock | KriLL3: people go to biz school to learn how to effectively shove their heads into the ground |
| 12:16.19 | orionshock | :) |
| 12:16.34 | KriLL3 | brb, crazy lag |
| 12:18.19 | KriLL3 | hmm router reboot seems to have done it |
| 12:18.28 | KriLL3 | weird I wasn't thrown of IRC |
| 12:20.19 | orionshock | irc has high tolerance for latancy sometimes |
| 12:20.55 | KriLL3 | well sure, but rebooting a router? |
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| 12:23.38 | orionshock | meh |
| 12:26.15 | Fisker | *sigh* |
| 12:26.33 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Harpos <- Whispers me and asks if i can give him some tips on his gear |
| 12:26.36 | Fisker | i :('d |
| 12:26.53 | sb|work | wtf is that |
| 12:27.27 | sb|work | def + sp + str + agi + sta |
| 12:27.27 | sb|work | WTF? |
| 12:27.58 | KriLL3 | he's clearly tank healer and dps |
| 12:28.00 | KriLL3 | duh |
| 12:28.03 | KriLL3 | ;) |
| 12:28.30 | KriLL3 | Fisker: my first tip would be to split the gear into 3 or more sets, instead of mixing it all into a pile |
| 12:28.52 | sb|work | get a 3rd glyph! |
| 12:30.47 | Fisker | hehe KriLL3 |
| 12:33.32 | Fisker | i think blizzard hates me btw |
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| 12:33.35 | Fisker | done 10 dire maul runs |
| 12:33.38 | Fisker | no shackle key yet |
| 12:33.54 | KriLL3 | pfft, 36 ToC HC runs |
| 12:34.03 | KriLL3 | they hate me a lot more |
| 12:49.55 | Megalon | Fisker just gets what he deserves from blizzard |
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| 13:12.38 | miica_ | when wow xmax events starts? |
| 13:15.32 | Wobin | miica, probably around xmas |
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| 13:16.40 | KriLL3 | 15:th dec |
| 13:16.45 | KriLL3 | says the calendar |
| 13:17.21 | miica | nice |
| 13:17.24 | vhaarr | there's some holiday thingy right now, what is it called again |
| 13:17.30 | miica | i know when i ca pay 1month :P |
| 13:17.31 | vhaarr | thanksgiving, isn't it |
| 13:17.38 | vhaarr | does it end tomorrow ingame? |
| 13:17.46 | miica | my own xmas gift for myself wow gametime 1month :D |
| 13:18.04 | KriLL3 | thanksgiving ends today it says |
| 13:18.10 | vhaarr | aha, so midnight |
| 13:18.11 | vhaarr | crap |
| 13:18.15 | vhaarr | I still need a dwarven rogue :P |
| 13:23.41 | Wobin | vhaarr, what server? |
| 13:23.56 | Wobin | I can come make one for you =P |
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| 13:24.19 | Wobin | unless you're a shoddy european =) |
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| 13:24.41 | vhaarr | I am :P |
| 13:24.44 | vhaarr | but thank you |
| 13:25.00 | Wobin | Torhal'll do it! |
| 13:25.00 | Celess | is the svn repo out of space? |
| 13:26.16 | vhaarr | some guildmate had a rogue already so it's solved now, thanks :) |
| 13:26.25 | vhaarr | thing is I just wanted to know if I had to log in today |
| 13:26.30 | vhaarr | or if it could wait until tomorrow |
| 13:26.35 | vhaarr | but the deed is done now |
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| 13:27.02 | vhaarr | Celess: you'll get an error message from svn then, are you? |
| 13:27.40 | KriLL3 | I had my brother roll a gnome and dwarf while I ran to Dun Morgoth |
| 13:27.48 | Celess | yes im geting one from tortoise |
| 13:28.00 | KriLL3 | he threw knives at me... and lvl 65 guards attacked me |
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| 13:28.25 | KriLL3 | didn't know that happened, when was that added? |
| 13:28.25 | vhaarr | haha |
| 13:28.31 | vhaarr | long time ago |
| 13:28.34 | vhaarr | in vanilla |
| 13:28.45 | vhaarr | obviously the guards had a few levelups since then |
| 13:28.50 | KriLL3 | remember seeing level 1-5 players attacking top level players in starting areas, getting flagged for pvp and getting raped |
| 13:29.07 | KriLL3 | well 65 isn't a match for an 80, just didn't know that happened |
| 13:29.23 | KriLL3 | do lowbies still get pvp flagged if they attack players in the starting area? |
| 13:30.05 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: http://wow.gamona.de/2009/11/28/wowmatrix-und-curse-client-trojanerverseucht/ /facepalm |
| 13:31.20 | Fisker | translate |
| 13:31.33 | Celess | '/repos/svn/wow/libkarma/mainline/db/transactions/43-1.txn/node.0.0': No space |
| 13:31.41 | Stanzilla | idiot says curse client and wowmatrix are infected with trojans |
| 13:31.54 | Fisker | xD |
| 13:31.59 | Fisker | well it's possible |
| 13:32.08 | Stanzilla | and that's like one of the biggest german wow news sites :/ |
| 13:32.10 | KriLL3 | yeah especially since it uses IE to render doubleclick.net ads |
| 13:32.36 | Celess | ala: cant close file, no space left on device |
| 13:32.44 | Fisker | doesn't matter unless you suck KriLL3 |
| 13:32.49 | Stanzilla | well I heard that EJ got infected with stuff yesterday |
| 13:32.59 | Stanzilla | through ads |
| 13:33.00 | Stanzilla | so maybe.. |
| 13:33.07 | KriLL3 | Fisker: I got a hardware firewall etc, so I'm not afraid, still a bad idea though |
| 13:33.42 | KriLL3 | Stanzilla: always a worry if you implement code from someone else, if that someone gets hacked or just gets a malicious ad you're compromised |
| 13:34.07 | KriLL3 | best solution is to use your own code and just use their images/text etc |
| 13:35.22 | KriLL3 | one of the reasons why I run adblock |
| 13:35.31 | Fisker | Well either you then use something to display the image which can be compromised |
| 13:35.39 | Fisker | or you use your own code, which can also be compromised |
| 13:35.56 | Fisker | and probably will be as those who developed the library probably spent a lot more time securing it than you did |
| 13:35.56 | Megalon | compromieses Fisker's code |
| 13:36.07 | Fisker | what's a compromiese? |
| 13:36.09 | KriLL3 | well sure, but it's far harder for them to get into your stuff than just piggybacking on a third party thing |
| 13:36.23 | Megalon | way mor viscious then compromising |
| 13:36.26 | Megalon | more |
| 13:36.27 | Megalon | :< |
| 13:36.33 | Megalon | someone is hacking my internetz |
| 13:36.34 | Megalon | halp |
| 13:36.52 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 13:37.14 | Fisker | also basically more of an issue with windows failxp |
| 13:37.15 | Megalon | your disagreement is a common accepted sign of approval |
| 13:37.17 | KriLL3 | I don't care, it's known fact that cross site scripting is a major issue, and ads are a large part of that |
| 13:37.29 | Fisker | Vista and 7 is pretty rigid against it |
| 13:38.13 | KriLL3 | kinda obvious really if you pull code from a third party and insert it into your own site |
| 13:41.42 | Celess | i made a ticket for the repo issue |
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| 13:46.14 | KriLL3 | in 3.3 addons can check what quests you've completed correct? |
| 13:46.19 | Trela | Yes. |
| 13:46.41 | KriLL3 | is someone working on an addon that helps you complete loremaster? |
| 13:46.50 | Trela | This is why I use AdBlock. I know web sites complain they lose revenue, but they advertisements carry bad shits! |
| 13:46.55 | KriLL3 | checks what quests you got left and points you to them |
| 13:46.59 | Trela | No idea. |
| 13:47.11 | KriLL3 | technically possible right? |
| 13:47.46 | Trela | I would assume so. It would take some logic coding for helping point the right direction of where to start. |
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| 13:47.57 | Trela | Unless it was just a list of, "Here, things to do in this zone." |
| 13:48.30 | KriLL3 | well that's enough really, just check those quests on wowhead/wowwiki from there |
| 13:48.44 | KriLL3 | though a more questhelper:esc polish wouldn't go amiss |
| 13:50.06 | Trela | You do know about the QuestHelper like interface Blizzard is building in, correct? |
| 13:52.00 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 13:52.21 | KriLL3 | but that doesn't seem to list quests available, just the ones you have |
| 13:54.13 | KriLL3 | guess they added it because it's included in Aion |
| 13:54.27 | KriLL3 | and a lot of people for some odd reason don't use any addons at all in wow |
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| 13:54.50 | KriLL3 | I still think the default unitframes are hideous in wow |
| 13:55.14 | Yasuo | hi! im looking for an addon wich shows me wich classes of players are around me |
| 13:55.15 | KriLL3 | wow is a lot sexier with some addons |
| 13:55.33 | KriLL3 | hmm can you class color the warning window in vanaskos? |
| 13:56.09 | KriLL3 | ah it has class icons |
| 13:56.27 | Wobin | holy crap |
| 13:56.40 | Wobin | MrPlow guildbank sorting >< |
| 13:56.46 | Wobin | guild banks take so long to update |
| 13:56.49 | KriLL3 | did he add that now? |
| 13:56.52 | Wobin | that MrPlow just hammers the change |
| 13:56.55 | Wobin | til it goes through |
| 13:57.04 | KriLL3 | Wobin: is that good or bad? |
| 13:57.04 | Wobin | KriLL3, I -am- MrPlow =P |
| 13:57.07 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 13:57.19 | KriLL3 | just saw the new version, nice, though you killed reverse and the minimap button =P |
| 13:57.28 | Wobin | it's bad, cause I have no way to throttle the input |
| 13:57.36 | Wobin | the 'new' version does, 10.0.3 |
| 13:57.43 | KriLL3 | and the LDB/titan button doesn't work with shift/etc to do the bank instead of bags |
| 13:57.43 | Wobin | but it's not propagated to Curse |
| 13:57.51 | Wobin | you can get it from wowace.com |
| 13:57.52 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 13:58.05 | Wobin | left for bags, right for bank |
| 13:58.26 | KriLL3 | is it LDB or titan btw? |
| 13:58.36 | Wobin | ldb |
| 13:58.43 | Wobin | titan is ldb now |
| 13:58.47 | Wobin | (I think) |
| 13:58.53 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 13:59.02 | KriLL3 | but it doesn't distinguish between native and LDB |
| 13:59.10 | KriLL3 | which is a bit confusing |
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| 14:01.00 | KriLL3 | hmm, questhelper has a button in the menu "incomplete quests" clicking it gives the message: "this feature isn't available until the wow 3.3 patch. Sorry" might that be my answer to my earlier question? |
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| 14:07.13 | Trela | Probably, Krill. :P |
| 14:07.23 | Fisker | what was your earlier question KriLL3 ? |
| 14:08.25 | KriLL3 | "in 3.3 addons can check what quests you've completed correct?" "is someone working on an addon that helps you complete loremaster?" |
| 14:08.45 | nevcairiel | there are loads of addons that want to support that |
| 14:08.55 | nevcairiel | LightHeaded will have features like that, somehow |
| 14:09.01 | nevcairiel | EveryQuest probably |
| 14:09.25 | Fisker | everyquest works with 3.2 |
| 14:09.26 | nevcairiel | Anyway, part of the loremaster fun was searching and finding quests, wouldnt be much fun just going by a list |
| 14:09.30 | Fisker | as long as you have the data from 3.3 |
| 14:10.11 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: well some of them are annoying |
| 14:10.18 | KriLL3 | like random drops that start a long chain etc |
| 14:11.19 | KriLL3 | questing addons meant for powerleveling etc would want to use it as well |
| 14:12.17 | KriLL3 | is there a similar function for not completed quests? |
| 14:12.29 | KriLL3 | or a full list of quests it can compare the completed ones against |
| 14:12.40 | KriLL3 | or do the addons need some kind of database? |
| 14:12.42 | nevcairiel | wowhead :P |
| 14:12.56 | nevcairiel | they need a database |
| 14:15.16 | KriLL3 | how complete is the quest guide in 3.3? the only quest I saw it mention was the "get to sylvannas inside icecrown citadel" one |
| 14:15.25 | KriLL3 | and that's a new quest, are old quests missing? |
| 14:17.22 | nevcairiel | its supposed to have all quests in the game |
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| 14:18.48 | KriLL3 | hmm did they datamine wowhead? =P |
| 14:19.12 | nevcairiel | the game already knows, they dont have to read some silly database :p |
| 14:19.12 | KriLL3 | then again with the right method they could most likely extract it all from their own code |
| 14:19.18 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 14:19.43 | KriLL3 | though the guide is a bit vague isn't it? and you can't use tomtom/similar to point your way can you? |
| 14:19.56 | nevcairiel | sure you can, if TomTom supports it |
| 14:20.17 | nevcairiel | you have big blobs on the map, can easily enough just click on them and get tomtom to route you there |
| 14:20.53 | KriLL3 | well you think the map thing has actual coordinates etc? to me it just looked like an image |
| 14:21.06 | nevcairiel | think? i know :) |
| 14:21.10 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 14:21.17 | KriLL3 | it displays the map of the zone and puts a blob on it? |
| 14:21.37 | KriLL3 | ah yes otherwise they would need an image per quest objective |
| 14:21.46 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6d5fe38cc71f7a0e1e100908f16828a9.jpg |
| 14:21.52 | nevcairiel | see the blue shape |
| 14:21.56 | nevcairiel | thats the area you do the quest in |
| 14:22.04 | KriLL3 | hmm I never got it to look like that |
| 14:22.28 | KriLL3 | I just clicked the quest in the log and got a map with a blob |
| 14:22.37 | KriLL3 | is there an option somewhere to make the map look like that? |
| 14:22.54 | nevcairiel | thats the default map |
| 14:23.07 | nevcairiel | but its been changed alot on the PTR; maybe you tested just an early version |
| 14:23.08 | KriLL3 | I still don't understand why the map is fullscreen though, and doesn't expand on widescreen monitors |
| 14:23.18 | KriLL3 | I was on the PTR yesterday |
| 14:23.22 | KriLL3 | map looked like it always has |
| 14:23.42 | nevcairiel | it can't really extend, the map is square |
| 14:23.42 | nevcairiel | cant just stretch it |
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| 14:24.07 | KriLL3 | well it could expand one of the panes perhaps |
| 14:24.11 | KriLL3 | or arrange em differenly |
| 14:24.12 | nevcairiel | for the full screen, well, thats what we have Mapster for =P |
| 14:24.12 | Trela | Why they use the FULLSCREEN frame strata? No idea. |
| 14:24.19 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: yeah I use mapster |
| 14:24.20 | Trela | loves Mapster. |
| 14:24.39 | KriLL3 | don't see why anyone would want to go totally blind to use the map though |
| 14:24.43 | Fisker | i'm fucking furious that they removed it from the small map |
| 14:24.55 | nevcairiel | removed what? |
| 14:24.56 | KriLL3 | a bit like unfolding an atlas in front of your face while driving |
| 14:24.58 | Trela | I suppose the fullscreen strata is just to prevent accidental frame screw ups. |
| 14:24.58 | Fisker | the quest stuff |
| 14:25.03 | nevcairiel | its not removed |
| 14:25.08 | nevcairiel | just the silly panel |
| 14:25.31 | KriLL3 | I saw the small map, was a bit too small and couldn't move it from the top left though |
| 14:25.32 | Trela | Krill, would you keep walking/driving if you put a map in front of your face? :P |
| 14:25.53 | KriLL3 | Trela: well if it's a small GPS screen etc sure |
| 14:26.10 | Fisker | i liked the panel nevcairiel |
| 14:26.10 | Trela | No GPS in WoW, technically. |
| 14:26.18 | Fisker | oh well it'll probably be in mapster anyways |
| 14:26.29 | nevcairiel | no panels on minimized map =P |
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| 14:26.41 | nevcairiel | but you can use the maximized and make it smaller 0P |
| 14:26.54 | Fisker | i want both |
| 14:27.51 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: mapster doesn't seem to agree with the new map |
| 14:28.12 | KriLL3 | hopefully fixed before 3.3 is released |
| 14:28.15 | KriLL3 | or shortly after |
| 14:29.10 | KriLL3 | though I guess the panel thing spells the end for lightheaded |
| 14:29.14 | nevcairiel | its already fixed |
| 14:29.17 | KriLL3 | ah nice |
| 14:29.21 | KriLL3 | guess I'm using the wrong version |
| 14:29.25 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 14:29.46 | KriLL3 | and questhelper will largely be obsolete |
| 14:29.58 | KriLL3 | except perhaps it's route feature |
| 14:30.07 | nevcairiel | the comments in lightheaded are still useful |
| 14:30.18 | nevcairiel | not always does a map blob help you |
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| 14:30.20 | KriLL3 | I never found those comments very useful |
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| 14:30.37 | Daemona | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=166834 |
| 14:30.39 | KriLL3 | they're sorted weirdly, get mostly useless comments on top, need to scroll a fair bit to get useful ones |
| 14:30.44 | Daemona | just wow |
| 14:30.52 | yoshimo | i still douubt that questhelper and carbonite will loose many users with 3.3 |
| 14:31.12 | nevcairiel | they have the same order as the voting order on wowhead |
| 14:31.17 | KriLL3 | and since I got more than one monitor it's not hard for me to have a browser with wowhead.com on it and check the comments that way, the good ones are easier to find on the site |
| 14:31.18 | nevcairiel | if you want it to be better, vote them :D |
| 14:31.42 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: hmm might be that the good comments aren't in green or something |
| 14:31.48 | Fisker | With 3.3 i'd really just like a map of questgivers and routing |
| 14:31.52 | KriLL3 | or that the window is small compared to a browser |
| 14:32.09 | Fisker | So i hope that addons like questhelper dump the hueg database and rely on WoW |
| 14:32.31 | Daemona | nevcairiel what where vote? hu? |
| 14:32.38 | KriLL3 | questhelper feels a bit monolithic and slow |
| 14:32.46 | KriLL3 | it's a bit like cosmos =P |
| 14:33.27 | KriLL3 | I think a new addon that just ties into the default quest stuff and does speedy routes would be a better approach |
| 14:33.50 | Daemona | i already pinged the routes author ;) |
| 14:33.51 | KriLL3 | the author of QH might be reluctant to remove 90% of his code |
| 14:33.55 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 14:34.00 | Daemona | but i haven't seen him for weeks |
| 14:34.05 | *** join/#wowace Schnaks (n=Schnaks@p5486ACD1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:34.59 | nevcairiel | he doesnt come t o IRC much anymore |
| 14:35.23 | nevcairiel | i took two screenshots of mapster and the quest things in 3.3, if anyone cares |
| 14:35.25 | nevcairiel | full: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/25182b3061dcd2d635f848e5f86210dd.jpg |
| 14:35.44 | nevcairiel | mini: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/09a9346bd760e1572716bf12a2bf37ef.jpg |
| 14:36.20 | KriLL3 | is the border supposed to be missing? |
| 14:36.27 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 14:36.38 | nevcairiel | you can turn that off and get a border, though |
| 14:36.44 | KriLL3 | is it mapster that does that? |
| 14:36.49 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 14:36.57 | Daemona | augh, diablo hp baubles ;) |
| 14:37.09 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: where? can't find that setting |
| 14:37.20 | Daemona | is it at least animated nevcairiel? ;) |
| 14:37.52 | Daemona | i like the mapster mini style btw :) |
| 14:37.52 | nevcairiel | no, the animation drove me nuts |
| 14:37.58 | KriLL3 | cool UI but the bars are a bit small, and too spaced out buttons |
| 14:38.28 | nevcairiel | spaced out? |
| 14:38.49 | nevcairiel | the micromenu usually isnt there, i hide it, but someone reported bugs so i had to show it and test it :P |
| 14:38.50 | KriLL3 | too much margin/padding on the buttons |
| 14:38.59 | nevcairiel | otherwise they wont fit onto the gfx, doh! |
| 14:39.07 | nevcairiel | and like i click them |
| 14:39.07 | Daemona | i wonder if that would drive me nuts on my rogue with the right one jumping between 30 and 80% all the time ;) |
| 14:39.25 | KriLL3 | well they'd fit if if they were larger and had less padding equal to the increase in size |
| 14:39.43 | nevcairiel | this way i can still see parts of the gfx |
| 14:39.48 | nevcairiel | i dont click them, and i think it looks good |
| 14:40.08 | KriLL3 | is it buttonfacade you use to theme bartender4 with? |
| 14:40.24 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 14:40.41 | KriLL3 | kk, thought something was off, I'm using the default and I prefer the "zoomed" one |
| 14:40.44 | nevcairiel | hm something is wrong with my keybindings on the PTR |
| 14:40.48 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 14:40.55 | nevcairiel | the default buttons have dreamlayout |
| 14:41.03 | nevcairiel | and the circled ones are .. |
| 14:41.05 | nevcairiel | checks |
| 14:41.14 | nevcairiel | serenity |
| 14:41.25 | KriLL3 | I |
| 14:41.28 | KriLL3 | 've always used zoomed |
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| 14:41.36 | KriLL3 | forgot to install buttonfacade this time though |
| 14:41.46 | nevcairiel | zoomed is the only style you can do without BF |
| 14:42.03 | KriLL3 | hmm my bartender4 buttons have rounded borders and are spaced a bit |
| 14:42.11 | KriLL3 | and I can't find any settings to change that |
| 14:42.26 | KriLL3 | zoomed are square |
| 14:43.10 | KriLL3 | yeah BF's default "blizzard" looked the same as what I had sans BF |
| 14:43.22 | nevcairiel | thats the point |
| 14:44.41 | KriLL3 | bah, why isn't there some way to set padding etc in BT4 globally? :( |
| 14:46.30 | nevcairiel | because global settings are silly |
| 14:47.10 | KriLL3 | well if you want to style all your bars the same it's easier to use one slider than 1-5 |
| 14:47.37 | Fisker | BAWWWWWWW |
| 14:47.37 | Fisker | i tried to kill a horde |
| 14:47.41 | Fisker | and now the guy is corpsecamping me ;_; |
| 14:47.47 | nevcairiel | arent you a horde? |
| 14:47.47 | Fisker | i should probably call for help |
| 14:47.49 | wink | Failadin :P |
| 14:47.51 | Fisker | exactly nevcairiel |
| 14:47.52 | KriLL3 | hmm, seems there is no way using bt4+bf to get 2px padding on your buttons with a background/border for the buttons |
| 14:48.08 | Fisker | some idiot alliance tries to gank me |
| 14:48.14 | Fisker | so i killed him a few times out of spite |
| 14:48.21 | Fisker | then he gets a few guildies to help him :( |
| 14:48.22 | Fisker | poor him |
| 14:48.43 | KriLL3 | while I was leveling in felwood I killed 3 guys in the same guild that were 1-3 levels over me |
| 14:48.53 | nevcairiel | they mustve sucked |
| 14:48.56 | Fisker | ;o |
| 14:48.57 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 14:49.01 | Fisker | or he was a death knight |
| 14:49.12 | krka | sucked, or not very interested in pvp? |
| 14:49.19 | KriLL3 | they did gank me while I was killing an elite though, so I though payback was appropriate |
| 14:49.26 | nevcairiel | even if you're not, a 3:1 you should win |
| 14:49.31 | KriLL3 | killed em over and over, they didn't even res at the same time |
| 14:49.39 | Fisker | lol |
| 14:49.55 | KriLL3 | then 3 level 80:ies appeared after they stopped ressing for a while... |
| 14:50.04 | nevcairiel | their mains, eh |
| 14:50.08 | KriLL3 | yeah |
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| 14:50.47 | KriLL3 | nice isn't it? couldn't beat me 3 on 1 so they beat me 3x 80 vs 1x 50~ |
| 14:50.59 | KriLL3 | Fisker: I'm feral btw |
| 14:51.15 | KriLL3 | not sore losers at all |
| 14:52.01 | Fisker | i hate those too |
| 14:52.01 | Fisker | :3 |
| 14:52.08 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: does mapster does the transparent border thing when you use a small map? can't find a setting in 3.2 for that border |
| 14:52.19 | KriLL3 | Fisker: what do you play? |
| 14:52.20 | nevcairiel | its not in the 3.2 version |
| 14:52.22 | Fisker | damn |
| 14:52.23 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 14:52.26 | Fisker | paladin |
| 14:52.30 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 14:52.37 | Fisker | i forgot to join wg because of all that |
| 14:53.08 | KriLL3 | I'm in complete pvp gear + furious gloves, I've steamrolled quite a few paladins recently |
| 14:53.20 | KriLL3 | thought about making a ticket, but that would just get me nerfed |
| 14:53.48 | KriLL3 | btw I was fishing in hillsbard foothills in that gear and a 48 paladin attacked me |
| 14:53.55 | KriLL3 | still kept going after I /shoo |
| 14:54.17 | nevcairiel | low levels with no grasp for reality are fun |
| 14:54.24 | nevcairiel | too bad they interrupt the fishing process |
| 14:54.30 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 14:54.52 | nevcairiel | level 48 .. you can one shot that :P |
| 14:54.52 | KriLL3 | he ressed a while later behind a hill, had a nice view of him as he bubble+hs:ed |
| 14:55.11 | KriLL3 | I wasn't even paying attention to him, but he clearly thought he managed to sneak away |
| 14:56.47 | KriLL3 | I personally think I look kinda scary, big ass tauren in a matching set of pvp gear (except gloves, they're colored slightly differently) but evidently retardins are overly optimistic =P |
| 14:57.14 | KriLL3 | 25k hp and 917 resiliance |
| 14:57.17 | Stanzilla | Fisker looks scary irl |
| 14:57.28 | KriLL3 | Stanzilla: a bit like gollum huh? |
| 14:57.33 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 14:57.40 | Stanzilla | a bit more pink |
| 14:57.48 | KriLL3 | does he eat sushi? |
| 14:58.00 | Stanzilla | no, whole cows |
| 14:58.40 | wink | in nori, with rice? |
| 14:58.47 | wink | that's gonna cost a bit |
| 15:00.00 | Archarodim | Is there a issue with the sync between wowace and curse.com? I tagged a beta 10 hours ago and it doesn't appear on curse.com :( |
| 15:00.25 | Wobin | yes |
| 15:01.41 | Fisker | damn |
| 15:01.49 | Fisker | wg still lags |
| 15:02.29 | KriLL3 | Wobin/Archarodim is that common? or temporary? |
| 15:03.03 | Wobin | hopefully temporary |
| 15:04.59 | asmodai | fiske: so is it 32 bit on win7 or 64 like some claimed? |
| 15:05.14 | Wobin | 64bit wow? |
| 15:05.16 | Wobin | that'd be awesome |
| 15:05.50 | KriLL3 | I just wish they did something about their abysmal engine |
| 15:06.09 | Funkeh` | proper multi core support would be nice |
| 15:06.13 | Funkeh` | over 64 bit |
| 15:06.18 | KriLL3 | with all settings at max the game doesn't look better than say crysis, but it sure runs slow |
| 15:06.27 | asmodai | heh, some people claimed that they saw wow without wow32 on taskmgr |
| 15:06.29 | KriLL3 | and I'm on a GTX260 |
| 15:06.47 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 15:06.51 | Funkeh` | but enable admin |
| 15:06.56 | Funkeh` | and you will se it's 32bit |
| 15:07.00 | quiescens | how does it run slow? |
| 15:07.05 | KriLL3 | quiescens: low FPS |
| 15:07.05 | krka | 15:55:50 <KriLL3> I personally think I look kinda scary, big ass tauren in a matching set of pvp gear (except gloves, they're colored slightly differently) but evidently retardins are overly optimistic =P |
| 15:07.10 | quiescens | what like, less than the 200fps you were expecting? |
| 15:07.12 | krka | http://xkcd.com/37/ |
| 15:07.25 | KriLL3 | quiescens: well I'd like 20 fps |
| 15:07.27 | KriLL3 | *60 |
| 15:07.29 | KriLL3 | I have 20 |
| 15:07.38 | quiescens | then something is wrong |
| 15:07.49 | KriLL3 | Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz + GTX260 |
| 15:08.00 | KriLL3 | turning of AA doesn't help |
| 15:08.00 | asmodai | yeah their engine has problems for sure |
| 15:08.22 | KriLL3 | well it's old |
| 15:08.26 | nevcairiel | try some other drivers |
| 15:08.34 | KriLL3 | isn't it still mostly the guts of the WC3 engine? |
| 15:08.35 | nevcairiel | nvidia usually messes up game support in some drivers |
| 15:08.36 | asmodai | and that for such simple graphics, textures and the likes |
| 15:08.54 | KriLL3 | I've tried a bunch of drivers, everything from really old to the cutting edge betas |
| 15:08.56 | krka | wow engine is based on war3 engine, but by now i doubt they have much in common anymore |
| 15:08.58 | KriLL3 | all give the same result |
| 15:09.15 | nevcairiel | maybe your system is just broken |
| 15:09.17 | nevcairiel | i have fine fps |
| 15:09.17 | KriLL3 | 30~ FPS displaying anything but a wall |
| 15:09.27 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I get fine FPS in modern games like MW2 etc |
| 15:09.40 | Daemona | it's been proven again and again before, wow is not gpu limited ;) |
| 15:09.48 | Daemona | and it doesn't multithread well |
| 15:09.50 | asmodai | krill: please be joking about it being wc3's. |
| 15:09.55 | nevcairiel | tbh i run vsync, but short of big aoe in raids, i rarely see anything other then the 60fps |
| 15:10.00 | KriLL3 | asmodai: I'm not |
| 15:10.01 | Daemona | especially with some higher amount of addons |
| 15:10.06 | quiescens | do you get the same without addons? |
| 15:10.09 | asmodai | *cry* |
| 15:10.13 | KriLL3 | quiescens: yes |
| 15:10.18 | quiescens | shrug |
| 15:10.22 | quiescens | something is wrong then |
| 15:10.35 | quiescens | people with worse hardware get higher performance |
| 15:11.04 | Daemona | quiescens i think the same all the time ;) running a q9550, 8gb ram and a gtx260 i rarely see more than 50fps in a raid |
| 15:11.10 | KriLL3 | might it be that I have the game running windowed fullscreen? |
| 15:11.18 | asmodai | nah |
| 15:11.18 | Fisker | slaps asmodai around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:11.20 | KriLL3 | since I got more than one monitor |
| 15:11.21 | nevcairiel | try non-window then :P |
| 15:11.34 | Daemona | windowed full screen definitly costs performance with aero enabled ;) |
| 15:11.45 | wink | nevcairiel: non-window was always worse thn windowed for me |
| 15:11.51 | Funkeh` | "definately" |
| 15:11.54 | asmodai | but seriously not that mucj |
| 15:11.58 | nevcairiel | i never saw much of a difference |
| 15:11.59 | KriLL3 | no different |
| 15:12.00 | Funkeh` | i've noticed near no performance loss at all |
| 15:12.09 | wink | only E6850 here though |
| 15:12.18 | Funkeh` | and im on a laptop |
| 15:12.19 | wink | with a 8800 GTS |
| 15:12.22 | Funkeh` | whats your point |
| 15:12.26 | Daemona | i can instantly prove that with a screenshot on my winxp 1.73ghz laptop Funkeh` ;) |
| 15:12.30 | nevcairiel | I'm on a e6750 and a 8800 gts, and all is running fine in wow land |
| 15:12.34 | asmodai | definitely, if we are looking at spelling |
| 15:12.40 | Funkeh` | Daemona, since when does XP have aero |
| 15:12.46 | wink | not "fine". Dalaran +25man = suck |
| 15:12.50 | wink | all else is really fine |
| 15:12.52 | KriLL3 | hmm without vsync and reduce input lag I get 70 fps |
| 15:13.04 | KriLL3 | but that's looking at a pool in orgrimmar |
| 15:13.05 | nevcairiel | oh yeah reduce input lag eats fps like candy |
| 15:13.10 | Daemona | i just added that as it is additional trouble and you gain performance in fs win mode when disabling aero |
| 15:13.36 | asmodai | wink: raids with shinies makes most systems cry |
| 15:13.39 | Funkeh` | I have aero on in win7 and 0 change between windowed and max |
| 15:13.44 | Funkeh` | on a 1.9 laptop |
| 15:13.59 | asmodai | and their shaders ain't *that* impressive |
| 15:14.06 | wink | KriLL3: try it. sometimes I've seen it improve |
| 15:14.07 | Daemona | if you don't mind i'd like to see theamount of addons you run ;) |
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| 15:14.21 | KriLL3 | wink: try what? |
| 15:14.27 | wink | only 1 screen |
| 15:14.30 | Funkeh` | addons ddont care if you're in windowed or not |
| 15:14.35 | KriLL3 | wink: pfft, not an option really |
| 15:14.49 | wink | I said try, not switch :) |
| 15:15.07 | KriLL3 | perhaps later, it breaks a lot to turn off the other screens |
| 15:15.07 | Daemona | and here we are back at the point "wow doesn't multithread well" and "wow will just become a low fps game if you run over a certain amount of addons hooking into the same stuff" |
| 15:15.22 | Funkeh` | it doesn't multithread well |
| 15:15.24 | KriLL3 | and it doesn't really use your GPU |
| 15:15.27 | Funkeh` | someone said it does? |
| 15:15.31 | Mikk | itym "wow doesn't multithread. period.". hth, hand. |
| 15:15.42 | nevcairiel | when wow was designed, people just didnt have multi-cores |
| 15:15.50 | wink | could you expand those acronyms, Mikk? :P |
| 15:15.51 | nevcairiel | you cant expect a 6 year old game to keep up |
| 15:15.52 | Funkeh` | iirc the only thing it multithreaded was the sound system of off the graphical system..? |
| 15:15.59 | KriLL3 | or stream processors |
| 15:16.04 | Daemona | which was like 2 major releases ago nevcairiel and more than enough time to add that |
| 15:16.04 | Mikk | "i think you mean", "hope this helps", "have a nice day" |
| 15:16.11 | Daemona | (instead of ingame voice chat e.g.) |
| 15:16.11 | wink | ah ty |
| 15:16.14 | nevcairiel | you can't just *add* that |
| 15:16.17 | nevcairiel | like a new module =p |
| 15:16.23 | KriLL3 | yeah it would need major work on the engine |
| 15:16.25 | Daemona | i know *fg* |
| 15:16.30 | asmodai | jeez, even valve is adding multicore support ;) |
| 15:16.31 | Funkeh` | no but they have a chance to do in with cataclysm |
| 15:16.35 | Funkeh` | and i havent heard anything about it |
| 15:16.52 | Daemona | they had the same chance with tbc and wotlk Funkeh` and they didn't ;) |
| 15:17.00 | Funkeh` | no they did not due to the amount of content |
| 15:17.03 | KriLL3 | well they tinkered with it some |
| 15:17.14 | Daemona | oh yeah, processaffinitymask... my ass |
| 15:17.18 | nevcairiel | like content devs and engine devs are the same people |
| 15:17.28 | Funkeh` | you can only fit so much into 2 years.... |
| 15:17.32 | asmodai | typically not |
| 15:17.33 | wink | imo wow chokes on slow HDDs much more than on slow cpus |
| 15:17.34 | KriLL3 | Daemona: not what I meant, each expansion got some added bells and whistles |
| 15:17.50 | KriLL3 | I got a very quick HDD |
| 15:17.57 | asmodai | quite different disciplines |
| 15:17.57 | Funkeh` | and you somewhat need your content devs to wait for the new engine to be done |
| 15:17.58 | KriLL3 | rates 6.2 |
| 15:17.58 | Daemona | yeah bells and whistles != core engine improvement |
| 15:18.02 | nevcairiel | Upper management won't give them much time to re-code the engine without a visible effect |
| 15:18.11 | Mikk | certainly not for the benefit of addons |
| 15:18.16 | Mikk | it runs just fine without them after all |
| 15:18.20 | nevcairiel | and better performance isnt much you can show off easily |
| 15:18.33 | asmodai | like non repeating textures and real water? ;) |
| 15:18.36 | Funkeh` | I don't think we want multi threaded support for addons Mikk :p |
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| 15:18.52 | Daemona | honestly, if they could gain 25% performance on a dual or quadcore over the current version ... |
| 15:18.56 | Mikk | i wouldn't mind if the Lua engine ran in a different thread from the gameport renderer |
| 15:19.08 | Mikk | which should be doable without ripping everything into pieces |
| 15:19.08 | Daemona | agrees with Mikk. |
| 15:19.17 | Mikk | still quite a bit of work but.. yeah |
| 15:19.17 | nevcairiel | they would internally need locking then, i bet |
| 15:19.27 | wink | quad core = 1 cpu for recount, one for pitbull, one for teamspeak, one for wow \o/ |
| 15:19.27 | Mikk | yes |
| 15:19.34 | nevcairiel | which could still cause addons to slow everything down |
| 15:19.50 | Mikk | well... hrm |
| 15:19.53 | Daemona | armchairs. |
| 15:19.55 | quiescens | well the game logic etc would still have to run in the same line as all the addon stuff |
| 15:19.56 | Daemona | 2 buckets |
| 15:20.02 | Daemona | wow dumps info for addons |
| 15:20.07 | Daemona | addons dump info for renderer |
| 15:20.09 | wink | WEREZ MAH BUKKIT? |
| 15:20.13 | Daemona | check buckets every X |
| 15:20.16 | Daemona | ,) |
| 15:20.24 | KriLL3 | move every bucket for great justice! |
| 15:20.34 | Mikk | Daemona that's very different from directly calling functions |
| 15:20.56 | wink | you forgot the BucketFactory as well |
| 15:20.59 | asmodai | and this is stuff o would want a panel on at blizzcon |
| 15:21.03 | Daemona | yeah but it would be a great performance gain over how wow is currently slowed down by addons + lua stuff |
| 15:21.23 | Daemona | i cry everytime i see my fps drop below 30 and my quadcore is below 50% load :( |
| 15:21.34 | wink | snatches his Tanenbaum and looks for buckets |
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| 15:21.42 | Mikk | turn all forms of SCT off & win |
| 15:21.55 | Mikk | been meaning to make an addon that fiddles with that runtime actually |
| 15:22.00 | Daemona | says mikk ... oh wrong Mik ;) |
| 15:22.02 | Mikk | i want all the bells and whistles on normally |
| 15:22.18 | Mikk | but on e.g. valkyries.... arff.. where'd my fps go |
| 15:22.20 | asmodai | guess all engine programmers are working on project whats its name |
| 15:22.22 | Mikk | turn shizzle off please |
| 15:22.49 | Funkeh` | project turn shizzle off please? |
| 15:22.56 | Daemona | my problem with that is, i need some visual check to see if i am autoattacking the target... sct is perfect for that |
| 15:23.01 | asmodai | har |
| 15:23.34 | wink | zoom in more :) |
| 15:23.35 | Mikk | Mmm i'm pretty sure there's addons that check that for you |
| 15:23.37 | asmodai | but then you miss the purdies |
| 15:23.40 | Mikk | Like... do we have autoattack on? |
| 15:23.41 | KriLL3 | Wobin: is reverse back in mrplow yet btw? |
| 15:23.54 | Mikk | Are we NOT getting "too far away" / "facing the wrong direction" messages? |
| 15:23.56 | Daemona | mikk which doesn't do have a range check ;) |
| 15:23.56 | wink | silly Blizzard for that Turkey Gun achievement, I've been told I should be available in Dalaran on realm forums already :P |
| 15:23.58 | Wobin | KriLL3, not yet |
| 15:24.06 | KriLL3 | I prefer reverse because then the stuff you always want with you is on the bottom, and anything you pick up is at the top, thus seperated |
| 15:24.12 | Wobin | oh bugger, |
| 15:24.13 | Daemona | no we arent Mikk we are rogues, we are running spammonster |
| 15:24.15 | Wobin | I can't commit |
| 15:24.18 | Wobin | =( |
| 15:24.27 | Wobin | wtb more drive space for the repos |
| 15:24.29 | Mikk | Daemona don't spammonster those then :P |
| 15:24.31 | wink | ^ just what Iw anted to say |
| 15:24.37 | Wobin | I wanted to add in gbank functionality |
| 15:24.44 | wink | Mikk, ever played a rogue? :P |
| 15:24.48 | Mikk | yes |
| 15:24.56 | wink | in raids? |
| 15:25.00 | Mikk | i started out by facerolling SS |
| 15:25.06 | wink | then this suggestion can't be serious :P |
| 15:25.23 | Mikk | until I realized i can clean my bellybutton out for 5 seconds and let energy build up |
| 15:25.26 | Mikk | before i really really have to SS again |
| 15:25.28 | wink | saving my warnings and printing them would amount to war and peace U think |
| 15:25.35 | wink | s/U/I/ |
| 15:25.47 | Mikk | ANYWAY |
| 15:25.54 | Mikk | my point was that it could be prettily addon-ified |
| 15:26.08 | Mikk | like.. if the addon sees a "too far away" error it pops up an icon on-screen |
| 15:26.17 | Mikk | if it sees you meleeing something again, it removes icon |
| 15:26.18 | Mikk | tadaa |
| 15:26.24 | Mikk | same for wrong facing |
| 15:26.32 | Daemona | write it, i buyit |
| 15:26.36 | nevcairiel | mikk draw some icons! :) |
| 15:26.46 | KriLL3 | is there a way to point an arrow towards your target? |
| 15:26.55 | Daemona | easy, make a sword with a strike-out sign over it ;) |
| 15:27.07 | Mikk | that'll be the "autoattack not enabled" one ;) |
| 15:27.09 | Wobin | KriLL3, We can't really find the coordinates of your target, so no |
| 15:27.18 | Torhal | KriLL3: Broker_Currency |
| 15:27.22 | Mikk | if your target is FRIENDLY, we can |
| 15:27.32 | Wobin | well... sure |
| 15:27.35 | Wobin | if they're in your party =P |
| 15:27.37 | Mikk | enemies - no |
| 15:27.42 | KriLL3 | I'd need it mostly to find NPCs I'm spam targetting, so yes friendly |
| 15:27.42 | Mikk | ah, yes, in party/raid also |
| 15:27.47 | KriLL3 | hmm |
| 15:27.50 | Mikk | no not that |
| 15:27.57 | Wobin | they're not friendly =( |
| 15:28.00 | Mikk | but there's a better fix for that |
| 15:28.10 | Mikk | get a shadow jade crystal |
| 15:28.12 | Mikk | click it |
| 15:28.15 | Mikk | BEEAMMMZZZ |
| 15:28.20 | Mikk | you automatically get turned in the right direction |
| 15:28.32 | Wobin | truedat |
| 15:28.32 | KriLL3 | always fun to fly/walk around and spam target, and when you finally get a target you don't know where they are =P |
| 15:28.32 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 15:28.35 | Mikk | i use it all the time |
| 15:28.52 | wink | lol nice idea |
| 15:28.55 | wink | never thought of that |
| 15:28.57 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.15 | wink | you could even use /use [itemname] with a [target=exists] |
| 15:29.20 | wink | one click! |
| 15:29.43 | KriLL3 | it's not JC only is it? |
| 15:29.43 | Mikk | yeah except i alt+uparrow spam for the /target |
| 15:29.46 | Mikk | no everyone can use |
| 15:29.48 | wink | no |
| 15:29.50 | Mikk | 50 charges per crystal |
| 15:29.53 | Torhal | I just use Drain Life. |
| 15:29.57 | Torhal | :D |
| 15:30.06 | Mikk | except that doesnt work on friendlies, and MUCH shorter range :P |
| 15:30.12 | Wobin | Torhal, friendly? =P |
| 15:30.15 | Mikk | + crystals work through walls |
| 15:30.16 | wink | and breaks CC |
| 15:30.17 | Mikk | and floors |
| 15:30.19 | Mikk | and ceilings |
| 15:30.24 | Mikk | LoS does not exist |
| 15:30.42 | KriLL3 | a bit like hunters? |
| 15:30.46 | Wobin | Mikk, hm, _NPC should incorporate that in |
| 15:31.18 | KriLL3 | a hunter's arrow/slug mocks your concepts of matter |
| 15:31.38 | Mikk | i have on idea what a _NPC is |
| 15:31.42 | Mikk | no too |
| 15:31.54 | KriLL3 | an ghosted NPC |
| 15:32.02 | Wobin | _NPCScan |
| 15:32.14 | Wobin | it targets and alerts on the rare mobs |
| 15:32.19 | Wobin | for the achievements |
| 15:32.24 | Wobin | (and hunters) |
| 15:32.35 | Wobin | The only problem with that |
| 15:32.37 | Stanzilla | <3 SilverDragon |
| 15:32.45 | Wobin | is that it'd also alert everyone else to the location of the target |
| 15:33.49 | KriLL3 | Stanzilla: does SD help with the exploration rare quests? |
| 15:33.59 | KriLL3 | *achievements |
| 15:34.17 | Wobin | Stanzilla, what's the difference between SD and _NPCScan? |
| 15:34.19 | wink | mhm, if the WoW client went open source, would there be community patches for stuff like proper multicore support? :) |
| 15:34.27 | Wobin | ahahaha |
| 15:34.30 | nevcairiel | doubtful |
| 15:34.34 | nevcairiel | its way too complex of a change |
| 15:34.41 | Wobin | s'if Blizzard would release this cashcow to the wild =P |
| 15:34.42 | KriLL3 | wink: oh yay bots galore |
| 15:35.00 | wink | KriLL3: reverse engineering the protocol is not the hard part |
| 15:35.04 | wink | avoiding detection is |
| 15:36.09 | KriLL3 | well imo it shouldn't be hard to notice that a lowbie is running around a high level zone much too quickly for even a mount |
| 15:36.22 | KriLL3 | should be some automated way to detect that |
| 15:36.34 | Stanzilla | Wobin: I don't really know. KriLL3: only rare mob alert |
| 15:36.51 | KriLL3 | saw a lowbie port around winterspring herbing |
| 15:36.52 | wink | think that's just too much hassle to sift through the logs, KriLL3 |
| 15:37.03 | wink | compare this abnormal behaviour to normal movement |
| 15:37.07 | KriLL3 | wink: well as said there should be some automated way |
| 15:37.09 | wink | like 0.04% |
| 15:37.21 | wink | it still needs cpu cycles to detect it |
| 15:37.29 | wink | on every movement of every char |
| 15:37.55 | KriLL3 | naw that's an inefficient way to do it |
| 15:38.09 | KriLL3 | the client could most likely do it anyway |
| 15:38.22 | asmodai | KriLL3: port? as in teleport bug using? |
| 15:38.25 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 15:39.08 | KriLL3 | appearing in different places very quickly repeatedly and never saying anywhere for more than a split second if there wasn't a herb there |
| 15:39.18 | KriLL3 | reported him to a GM and the GM banned him |
| 15:39.27 | KriLL3 | *staying |
| 15:39.30 | quiescens | too much effort reporting people |
| 15:39.54 | KriLL3 | quiescens: you're my hero |
| 15:40.45 | KriLL3 | typing a couple of lines of text while autorunning in a straight line is too much work? =P |
| 15:40.47 | quiescens | I don't like having to deal with um |
| 15:40.49 | wink | I actually didn't report anyone for 1-2 years |
| 15:40.55 | quiescens | thingy |
| 15:40.57 | wink | because I saw none |
| 15:41.12 | KriLL3 | I've seen plenty |
| 15:41.16 | quiescens | admin type people |
| 15:41.19 | wink | wrong server then :) |
| 15:41.26 | Fisker | you wouldn't kill a man |
| 15:41.29 | KriLL3 | mostly hunters killing mobs in the same spot day after day |
| 15:41.45 | KriLL3 | and clearly being automated |
| 15:42.04 | KriLL3 | liked messing with enemy ones, killing their pet, standing near enough to make em go back into crowds of mobs and die etc |
| 15:42.11 | KriLL3 | since being killed by mobs ruined their gear |
| 15:42.32 | quiescens | surely a sufficiently advanced bot is indistinguishable from an appropriately stupid player |
| 15:43.17 | asmodai | not by much |
| 15:44.32 | KriLL3 | quiescens: even the best bot moves/behaves weirdly |
| 15:44.57 | KriLL3 | hallmarks being jerky turning on the spot to scan the surroundings, and moving in a pattern |
| 15:45.11 | quiescens | clearly you are underestimating stupidity |
| 15:45.34 | Wobin | ~seen xinhuin |
| 15:45.36 | purl | Wobin: i haven't seen 'xinhuin' |
| 15:45.41 | Wobin | ~seen xinhuan |
| 15:45.42 | purl | xinhuan <n=xinhuan@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/xinhuan> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 47d 15h 16m 23s ago, saying: 'all i can think of is that your git isn't sending your private key properly'. |
| 15:45.50 | Wobin | =( |
| 15:45.53 | Wobin | log in more Xin =( |
| 15:45.57 | quiescens | ): |
| 15:45.57 | Torhal | Wobin: Postal? |
| 15:46.03 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:46.11 | Wobin | I'm wondering why it's calling MrPlow =P |
| 15:46.21 | Torhal | Dunno. Heh |
| 15:46.38 | Torhal | Fisker: Stop filling the hard drive with troll porn. |
| 15:46.46 | Fisker | i would if i could |
| 15:46.47 | KriLL3 | doesn't it use mrplow to merge stacks of material you retrieve from the mailbox? |
| 15:47.02 | Megalon | Torhal: you only need one trollporn |
| 15:47.12 | Megalon | it will then autoregenerate until the drive is full |
| 15:47.26 | Wobin | Megalon, unless you purge it with fire |
| 15:47.29 | Torhal | Megalon: You're right! |
| 15:47.31 | Megalon | you have to throw it into fire |
| 15:47.35 | asmodai | trollporn = photo of a naked Fisker ? |
| 15:47.44 | Megalon | i wouldn't call that porn |
| 15:47.56 | Megalon | more a natural disaster |
| 15:48.01 | Daemona | @ wobin i guess he is just busy -> http://www.wowace.com/addons/routes/tickets/14-adapting-routes-for-the-3-3-quest-tracking-feature/ |
| 15:48.05 | KriLL3 | I think putting a bukkit of thermite over your HDD and lighting it works |
| 15:48.21 | asmodai | KriLL3: Why not vegemite? |
| 15:48.29 | wink | marmite? |
| 15:48.30 | Fisker | naw KriLL3 |
| 15:48.32 | KriLL3 | don't know what that is |
| 15:48.39 | Fisker | it'll transfer to the internet before it fails |
| 15:48.40 | asmodai | KriLL3: Keep it that way. |
| 15:48.46 | Wobin | Daemona, yeah, that'd put a crimp into anyone's social calendar =) |
| 15:48.51 | KriLL3 | Fisker: disconnect it first ofc |
| 15:48.58 | sb|work | Wobin: uhm - new mrplow speed improvements (move multiple items / tick) are great - thanks :o |
| 15:49.07 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 15:49.14 | Wobin | Pity it can't be applied so easily to guildbanks =( |
| 15:49.23 | Fisker | it's troll porn KriLL3 |
| 15:49.24 | Wobin | I had to install a throttle |
| 15:49.25 | wink | anyone noticed duplicated seasonal events achievements like I just did? |
| 15:49.34 | Torhal | Wobin: Xinhuan said "Did MrPlow addon get updated recently? The error indicates that you have MrPlow installed and the function MrPlow:ParseInventory() no longer exists." |
| 15:49.35 | Daemona | @project mrplow |
| 15:49.37 | Repo | Daemona: No project found that matches 'mrplow' |
| 15:49.37 | wink | I have one completed noblegarden and one uncompleted |
| 15:49.42 | wink | - |
| 15:49.43 | Daemona | @addon mrplow |
| 15:49.50 | Daemona | i always fail at asking repo :/ |
| 15:49.50 | wink | @project mr-plow |
| 15:49.51 | nevcairiel | @project mr-plow |
| 15:49.51 | Fisker | @project mr-plow |
| 15:49.54 | Repo | wink: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mr-plow/. MrPlow. Game: WoW. wobin (Manager/Author), elephant911 (Maintainer). Updated: 14 hours ago. Tickets: 1/4 |
| 15:49.56 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mr-plow/. MrPlow. Game: WoW. wobin (Manager/Author), elephant911 (Maintainer). Updated: 14 hours ago. Tickets: 1/4 |
| 15:49.59 | Fisker | fu nevcairiel |
| 15:49.59 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mr-plow/. MrPlow. Game: WoW. wobin (Manager/Author), elephant911 (Maintainer). Updated: 14 hours ago. Tickets: 1/4 |
| 15:50.01 | Fisker | and Windaria |
| 15:50.01 | wink | spammy |
| 15:50.02 | Fisker | wink |
| 15:50.03 | Wobin | hehe |
| 15:50.05 | Fisker | hivemind :P |
| 15:50.08 | Daemona | got owned :/ |
| 15:50.12 | quiescens | o.o |
| 15:50.13 | Wobin | Torhal, Just checking what to replace that function with =) |
| 15:50.13 | wink | very |
| 15:50.26 | Torhal | Wobin: Ah |
| 15:51.51 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that shows the source of gear? |
| 15:51.57 | wink | many |
| 15:52.04 | yoshimo | inspectequip for example |
| 15:52.08 | KriLL3 | in the tooltip |
| 15:52.44 | wink | atlasloot I think |
| 15:52.49 | yoshimo | "InspectEquip also adds detailed item source information (including boss names, item prices for Emblem rewards etc) to all item tooltips." |
| 15:53.02 | KriLL3 | nice |
| 15:53.10 | wink | probably armory as well |
| 15:53.21 | Torhal | Wobin: Seriously? DoStuff() |
| 15:53.24 | Torhal | ... |
| 15:53.25 | wink | lol |
| 15:53.27 | Torhal | cackles. |
| 15:53.40 | Wobin | Well.. it's descriptive! =) |
| 15:53.49 | Torhal | ...in a vague manner... |
| 15:53.58 | Megalon | DoEvenMoreStuff() |
| 15:54.01 | Wobin | Otherwise it'd be "ProcessInput" |
| 15:54.02 | Megalon | that one fits more lines |
| 15:54.04 | Wobin | and that's just boring |
| 15:54.27 | quiescens | Moo() |
| 15:54.28 | Daemona | reminds me of my algorithms prof at the uni ... all his functions are named "machWatt()" (for the germans) |
| 15:54.32 | Torhal | local thingy, something = DoStuff() -- This is where it happens. |
| 15:54.49 | Megalon | one machwatt |
| 15:54.54 | Megalon | what's that in iso units |
| 15:55.08 | wink | when I implemented a sorting algorithm for uni they did not approve iof recursive functions humpty() and dumpty() :( |
| 15:55.14 | Daemona | no idea, but it translates 1:1 to doStuff() ;) |
| 15:55.26 | Wobin | I recall on DW MUD, we were encouraged to use variable names like "cabbage, womble, frog, etc" |
| 15:55.39 | Torhal | Wobin: WOw |
| 15:55.42 | wink | they also did not approve of doing javadoc with ascii art |
| 15:55.47 | Wobin | Pinkfish even put a poem about roses in some comments |
| 15:55.51 | wink | quite humorless folk there, actually |
| 15:56.29 | Daemona | pfff there are 10 types of people in the world... |
| 15:56.37 | Daemona | those that understand binary and those who don't... |
| 15:56.40 | Megalon | and everyone counts on base 10 |
| 15:57.20 | wink | curse has a fail |
| 15:57.28 | wink | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/inspect-equip/download/362331.aspx |
| 15:57.32 | wink | it's a download page |
| 15:57.40 | quiescens | start counting in base 9 just for the sake of it |
| 15:57.41 | wink | with no link back to the addo page |
| 15:58.03 | Megalon | quiescens: everyone counts in base10 |
| 15:58.04 | Wobin | Torhal, aha, strawberries! http://discworld.atuin.net/external/autodoc/std.room.basic_room.c.shtml#query_direc |
| 15:58.12 | Megalon | ;( |
| 15:59.00 | wink | dw mud? |
| 15:59.04 | wink | why do I only learn of that now? |
| 15:59.12 | wink | surely it's been around for a while |
| 15:59.16 | Torhal | wink: Because you're very young? |
| 15:59.27 | wink | Torhal: how young is very young? :) |
| 15:59.34 | wink | I started pen&paper rpg in 1995 |
| 15:59.45 | Torhal | wink: Let's see...I believe I remember DiscWorld MUD from when I was 15, and I'm 34 now., |
| 15:59.58 | Daemona | oh my ... make me forget my MUD time please... i spent like 400 days played over 3 years in a MUD... |
| 16:00.03 | wink | must've missed it then :) |
| 16:00.15 | Wobin | It's been around since... 1994? |
| 16:00.22 | Daemona | though stuff like zMUD made it awefully easy to automate shit *cough* |
| 16:00.27 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deDuJ0fnkZQ&fmt=18 |
| 16:00.30 | Wobin | or maybe 86 |
| 16:00.31 | wink | I only went online in '98 |
| 16:00.36 | asmodai | 3 years old, drum company gave him a contract :| |
| 16:00.39 | Torhal | '89, here |
| 16:00.44 | Wobin | geez |
| 16:00.55 | Wobin | I spent about 5-8 years on it as a creator =P |
| 16:01.18 | Torhal | I are intertubez Dinosaur. Rawr. |
| 16:01.40 | Daemona | Wobin can count baud wise when listening on a cat5 cable. |
| 16:01.55 | Wobin | pft, we whistled down the phoneline |
| 16:01.59 | wink | asmodai: all children make that much noise, you just need to focus them ;) |
| 16:02.05 | Daemona | to get free phone calls? ;) |
| 16:02.08 | asmodai | Internet? Pshaw, we used Fidonet point addresses! |
| 16:02.09 | asmodai | wink: :D |
| 16:02.16 | Daemona | reminds me of that awefully bad movie "the core" |
| 16:02.26 | *** join/#wowace Zeksie (n=zeksie@cpc1-nott9-0-0-cust765.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 16:02.28 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zMhSjDqvRs&fmt=18 \o/ |
| 16:02.28 | wink | never heard of that |
| 16:02.29 | Daemona | where they get that hacker to "control the media and internet" ;) |
| 16:02.52 | wink | but to my defense I can say I knew about the internet from about 1995. my parent just didn't cough a modem before '99 :P |
| 16:02.56 | wink | *98 ffs |
| 16:03.00 | Daemona | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0298814/ |
| 16:04.01 | wink | young bowie is creepy |
| 16:04.34 | asmodai | Getting email with Blue Wave or QWK over dial up to a BBS. |
| 16:04.36 | asmodai | wink: hehehe |
| 16:05.02 | Torhal | I actually remember thinking "Fuck. Now complete morons will be on the Internet". This was after a commercial for the remake of "The Island of Dr. Moreau", where they slapped a URL on the screen. Circa 1994. |
| 16:05.06 | Wobin | wink, only "young"? |
| 16:05.22 | wink | what I really find so weird is that I got net access in '98 and immediately started with HTML |
| 16:05.28 | Torhal | And guess what - idiots abound! But teh tubez are more resourceful... |
| 16:05.28 | wink | Wobin: 26, yea :) |
| 16:05.38 | Wobin | nah, I meant the bowie comment =) |
| 16:05.57 | wink | Wobin: nah, maybe it's just the artifacts :P |
| 16:06.19 | wink | [16:59:02] (+Torhal) wink: Because you're very young? |
| 16:06.24 | wink | it did fit, though :P |
| 16:06.39 | asmodai | wink: this then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViftZTfRSt8&fmt=18 |
| 16:07.26 | wink | nah, not my type of music |
| 16:08.23 | asmodai | Labyrinth++ |
| 16:08.26 | wink | NE druid named Severussnape |
| 16:08.31 | wink | WTB RP realm >< |
| 16:09.05 | wink | Mcroguewig, Iwannabetree |
| 16:09.07 | wink | holy shit |
| 16:09.49 | asmodai | >_< |
| 16:11.18 | Fisker | i'm outrageous |
| 16:12.46 | Wobin | wink RP realm nets you 234872 NE Hunters named some variation of Le[g*]ola[s*] |
| 16:13.03 | wink | wait... I need to paste something |
| 16:13.50 | sb|work | Leggolass? |
| 16:14.16 | Megalon | Leola? |
| 16:14.29 | wink | [Legalase]: LF COOKER TO DO [Recipe: Slow-Roasted Turkey] |
| 16:14.29 | wink | [Legalase]: IV GOT THE RECIPE FOR U |
| 16:14.29 | wink | [Legalase]: Level 80 Blood Elf Hunter |
| 16:14.32 | Wobin | sb|work, I've seen it before! |
| 16:14.44 | wink | Legalese? :P |
| 16:15.08 | Megalon | yep, when all utf8 chars are taken |
| 16:15.20 | Megalon | that replace eao with same-looking chars |
| 16:15.40 | Megalon | they just replace them with random eoa-chars |
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| 16:19.38 | asmodai | groans |
| 16:19.48 | asmodai | Not having imagination is a terrible sin. |
| 16:22.06 | sb|work | so watch pr0n then!? |
| 16:22.30 | wink | I love the Rogue name Elviscerate though |
| 16:25.09 | asmodai | I wonder how many rogues took a cosmetics brand name as their name in lieu of making fun of 'rouge'. |
| 16:25.49 | wink | haven't seen many actually |
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| 16:28.36 | KriLL3 | anyone seen a titan/ldb plugin that replaces the menu? seen one but it puts it in a dropdown, I want icons |
| 16:29.19 | KriLL3 | and I mean the micro menu, not the esc one |
| 16:30.47 | wink | what? |
| 16:30.52 | wink | what menu? |
| 16:31.03 | wink | make rocket go now? |
| 16:33.37 | KriLL3 | character pane, spellbook, talents pane etc |
| 16:34.07 | wink | ah that one |
| 16:34.10 | wink | mhm |
| 16:34.20 | wink | I thought I've seen something like that |
| 16:34.23 | wink | but I don't remember the name |
| 16:34.38 | KriLL3 | I had one like that in my fubar days |
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| 16:41.59 | sb|work | Znuff, KriLL3: i think i will get "SST-ML02B-MXR" case for my HTPC (well.. maybe my xmas present to me :p) looks great |
| 16:42.15 | Znuff | wut? |
| 16:42.18 | Znuff | wait, I just woke up |
| 16:42.45 | nevcairiel | imho thats pretty expensive just for a case |
| 16:42.49 | sb|work | i know :( |
| 16:42.54 | *** join/#wowace Bibi- (n=Bibi@AVelizy-151-1-54-93.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:42.58 | Znuff | ITX cases are freakin' expensive |
| 16:43.06 | Znuff | uh, comes with a remote |
| 16:43.10 | sb|work | yea + LCD |
| 16:43.25 | nevcairiel | it does look nice, though |
| 16:43.27 | sb|work | yup :( |
| 16:43.34 | sb|work | and thats the only way my gf will accept it :p |
| 16:44.31 | Fisker | are you discussing penises? |
| 16:44.41 | Znuff | e ones |
| 16:44.42 | sb|work | yes Fisker |
| 16:44.52 | KriLL3 | does it have high SAF? |
| 16:44.57 | nevcairiel | 52-in-1 Cardreader ... many formats supported, eh |
| 16:45.07 | sb|work | KriLL3: SAF? |
| 16:45.16 | KriLL3 | spousal acceptance factor |
| 16:45.20 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:45.24 | Znuff | apparently it does |
| 16:45.26 | Znuff | ^^ |
| 16:46.22 | nevcairiel | but a nice slim blu-ray drive in there, a good ion board, and that thing could work well |
| 16:47.03 | sb|work | nevcairiel: yup |
| 16:47.14 | sb|work | well i dont need blue ray there |
| 16:47.22 | nevcairiel | although i'm unsure how well bluray playback in XBMC works |
| 16:47.24 | sb|work | already got a standalone player |
| 16:47.38 | nevcairiel | could combine it into one device :) |
| 16:47.42 | Znuff | think in xbmc it doesn't :P |
| 16:47.47 | Torhal_ | KriLL3: picoButtons |
| 16:47.57 | Znuff | but honestly, who needs/wants bluray when you got the intrawebz? ^^ |
| 16:47.57 | sb|work | nevcairiel: nah.... no need ;) |
| 16:48.04 | sb|work | Znuff: i do |
| 16:48.24 | Znuff | I'd rather download 20gb :D |
| 16:48.25 | nevcairiel | You should compare a real bluray to a ripped bluray on a really big screen, you will still see the difference :d |
| 16:48.31 | nevcairiel | also, TruHD sound ftw |
| 16:48.39 | KriLL3 | Torhal: thx, weird didn't get that from searching for "LDB micro menu" etc on google & curse |
| 16:48.45 | nevcairiel | +e |
| 16:49.11 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: depends on who ripped it |
| 16:49.32 | nevcairiel | unless you download the full bluray "rip" without re-encode, there is a diff |
| 16:49.34 | Torhal_ | BTW: Kaelten has fixed the hard drive full issue - however, the packager is not yet online. |
| 16:50.20 | Znuff | ESiR does exceptional BluRay rips |
| 16:50.21 | nevcairiel | Also, personally, it just feels better to watch a movie i just got on bluray, then to watch i movie i just downloaded somewhere =P |
| 16:50.34 | sb|work | nevcairiel: +1-2TB hdd |
| 16:50.38 | sb|work | nevcairiel: for that thingie ;) |
| 16:50.51 | Znuff | personally I have a thing against buying crappy hollywood movies that I will watch only once |
| 16:50.54 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: bet it feels better for the fatcats in suits also ;) |
| 16:50.56 | sb|work | but is its going to be 600+ EUR then :/ |
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| 16:51.16 | nevcairiel | I don't download movies i hate either =P |
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| 16:52.03 | Znuff | in the last 3 years I'm not sure I've seen 10 movies that I really enjoyed |
| 16:52.13 | wink | +1 |
| 16:52.17 | sb|work | you should go to the cinema then :p |
| 16:52.25 | wink | we got a local fantasy film festival |
| 16:52.35 | wink | that breaks my 10/3 year statistic though |
| 16:52.47 | Znuff | the closest cinema we've got around here is at 40kms |
| 16:52.54 | wink | then again good luck getting those on DVD |
| 16:53.09 | sb|work | Znuff: WTF? :P |
| 16:53.12 | Znuff | yeah |
| 16:53.17 | Znuff | I live in a seaside resort |
| 16:53.46 | nevcairiel | I have a cinema pretty close, but its crap, i would rather go about ~50km for a big multiplex cinema :) |
| 16:53.54 | sb|work | yup, same here |
| 16:54.04 | sb|work | well its 20km for a big cinema (+mcdonalds!) ;) |
| 16:54.23 | Znuff | also |
| 16:54.34 | Znuff | I went on wednesday to watch 2012 |
| 16:54.42 | Znuff | and I swore I will NEVER EVER go there again |
| 16:54.42 | wink | mhm, 8km here. in the city :P |
| 16:54.43 | sb|work | see, thats 1/10 on your list :p |
| 16:54.45 | sb|work | oh? |
| 16:54.48 | sb|work | i liked that one |
| 16:54.54 | nevcairiel | I was wondering if the movie was worth going to the cinema |
| 16:55.03 | sb|work | imo it is |
| 16:55.28 | Znuff | apparently it is |
| 16:55.29 | Znuff | BUT |
| 16:55.37 | Znuff | When you can actually MAKE reservation to the stupid movie |
| 16:56.03 | Znuff | and don't end up having to watch another movie just because they sold out on the movie you wanted |
| 16:56.10 | sb|work | lol... :/ |
| 16:56.13 | Znuff | yeah |
| 16:56.34 | Znuff | and I was like: "hey, let's go there 2 hours ahead so we can get good seats if they don't make reservations over the phone/online" |
| 16:56.40 | Znuff | so, instead, I watched Whiteout |
| 16:56.43 | Znuff | piece of crap, not worth it |
| 16:57.00 | sb|work | i buy my tickets online and just have to enter some PIN at the cinema to get them "printed" |
| 16:57.15 | nevcairiel | yeah, they have stations for that already |
| 16:57.19 | nevcairiel | dont even have to talk to someone |
| 16:57.21 | sb|work | well - could be worse, could be new moon :p |
| 16:57.33 | Znuff | they didn't even show up new moon |
| 16:57.44 | Znuff | they have only 4 rooms |
| 16:57.48 | Znuff | how do you call them? :P |
| 16:57.52 | Znuff | "rooms" |
| 16:57.58 | Znuff | multiplex with 4... erm |
| 16:58.12 | Znuff | word escapes me, english not my mother language :) |
| 16:58.14 | wink | plex? :) |
| 16:59.16 | Znuff | yeah, well, you get it :P |
| 16:59.27 | Znuff | they're stupid online reservation system has been down for more than 6 months already |
| 16:59.31 | Znuff | their* |
| 17:00.09 | Znuff | also, picture quality = crap, sound quality = even crappier |
| 17:00.13 | sb|work | hm - where are you from? (so i wont ever go there.. :p) |
| 17:00.17 | Znuff | Romania :P |
| 17:00.56 | Znuff | Except for our capital city, everywhere else in the country the cinemas are crap |
| 17:01.03 | nevcairiel | they probably showed a TS rip from the internetz :D |
| 17:01.10 | Znuff | but hey, at least we've got 5 multiplexes and one IMAX there... |
| 17:01.22 | sb|work | i still want to try that new 4K 3D stuff |
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| 17:01.32 | Znuff | nevcairiel, honestly? It was more like a badly ripped CAM, not even TS sound :-/ |
| 17:01.34 | nevcairiel | gotta have a 3D movie first |
| 17:03.04 | Znuff | so, I swore to myself that I'll pirate the shit out of that stupid movie -_- |
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| 17:06.49 | nevcairiel | hm drive to the shop to buy food or just order some take out |
| 17:06.52 | nevcairiel | ponders |
| 17:07.44 | sb|work | KriLL3: but err - the SAF depends on the stupid things i've bought recently... :p and thats almost zero - so it doesnt look that bad ;) |
| 17:07.54 | sb|work | nevcairiel: pizza.de! |
| 17:08.26 | nevcairiel | hm nah, not pizza |
| 17:08.43 | KriLL3 | sb|work: heh, that's one way, present a less attractive alternative first, makes the second seem even better |
| 17:08.44 | sb|work | its just a portal for your local food delivery services |
| 17:08.53 | sb|work | its not restricted to pizza |
| 17:08.57 | nevcairiel | well i know the local services =p |
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| 17:10.33 | sb|work | KriLL3: that wont work - "why do we need that? we can already watch movies with the VLC client + computer running vlc - no need to spend money" |
| 17:10.54 | KriLL3 | ah, that's an unusually sophisticated spouse |
| 17:12.58 | Fisker | slaps sb|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:13.14 | sb|work | WHAT? |
| 17:13.38 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 073.3 * 1.2.3-18-ge490337 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 17:13.40 | Repo | e490337: Added an option to disable mouse interactivity for the map. Default enabled on the minimized map. |
| 17:13.41 | Repo | 37c4b37: In minimized hide-border mode, move the Show Quest Objectives checkbox to the top of the map. |
| 17:13.44 | nevcairiel | oh hai Repo works again |
| 17:19.30 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2704 ARLFrame.lua: (Message trimmed by 4 lines) |
| 17:19.32 | Repo | Set MainPanel to be clamped to the screen. |
| 17:19.33 | Repo | Lowercased all of the MainPanel.filter_menu members (general, obtain, etc) |
| 17:19.41 | Repo | Moved Generic_MakeCheckButton() to just after the creation of MainPanel.filter_menu |
| 17:19.44 | Repo | Moved creation of MainPanel.filter_menu.general and its check-buttons to the main file body from addon:InitializeFrame() |
| 17:20.06 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2705 ARLFrame.lua: (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 17:20.07 | Repo | Renamed Generic_MakeCheckButton() to InitializeCheckButton() |
| 17:20.09 | Repo | Moved creation of MainPanel.filter_menu.obtain and its CheckBoxes from addon:InitializeFrame() to the main file body. |
| 17:20.10 | Repo | Moved creation of MainPanel.filter_menu.binding and its CheckBoxes from addon:InitializeFrame() to the main file body. |
| 17:20.12 | Repo | Made the CheckBoxes for these two filter_menu sections members of the menu frame and removed them from the global namespace. |
| 17:20.24 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2706 ARLFrame.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 17:20.26 | Repo | In GenerateTooltipContent(): Added local reference to addon.Frame as MainPanel. |
| 17:20.28 | Repo | Further refined the OnClick script for the class_toggle. |
| 17:20.30 | Repo | Moved creation of all the filter_menu.item stuff into the main file body. Changed the checkboxes to not be global. |
| 17:20.33 | Repo | Re-wrote the armor_toggle OnClick for clarity/efficiency. |
| 17:20.39 | nevcairiel | I wonder if torhal has a local git overlay =P |
| 17:20.45 | Torhal | :D |
| 17:20.46 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2707 ARLFrame.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 17:20.48 | Repo | Re-wrote the OnClick script for MainPanel.filter_menu.item.weapon_toggle for clarity/efficiency. |
| 17:20.50 | Repo | Converted all of the weapon CheckButtons to the new format. |
| 17:20.52 | Repo | Moved creation of MainPanel.filter_menu.player and its CheckButtons to the main file body, and converted them to the new format - deleting a few extra SetText() calls along the way. |
| 17:20.55 | Repo | Moved creation of MainPanel.filter_menu.rep to the main file body. |
| 17:21.24 | Shadowed | Did Curse die or something? |
| 17:21.30 | Torhal | Shadowed: Drive full. |
| 17:21.33 | Torhal | Fixed now. |
| 17:21.35 | Torhal | Oh |
| 17:21.36 | Torhal | Curse |
| 17:21.38 | Torhal | Maybe |
| 17:21.39 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.105-beta * r316 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:21.40 | Repo | - |
| 17:22.03 | Shadowed | Given that two versions that I uploaded have been approved and are showing up on curseforge but not curse, I would assume so :p |
| 17:22.26 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.108-beta * r317 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:22.28 | Repo | - |
| 17:22.37 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.112-beta * r318 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:22.39 | Repo | - |
| 17:22.42 | Torhal | Shadowed: Yah - syndication has been broken for a couple of days |
| 17:22.43 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.113 * r319 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:22.44 | Repo | - |
| 17:22.46 | Shadowed | ah :< |
| 17:22.49 | Torhal | No chance getting that fixed until Monday. |
| 17:22.54 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.203 * r320 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:22.56 | Repo | - |
| 17:23.00 | Shadowed | oh well |
| 17:23.04 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.210 * r321 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:23.07 | Repo | - |
| 17:23.07 | Torhal | Which, in my opinion, is utter FAIL. |
| 17:23.10 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.227 * r322 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:23.12 | Repo | - |
| 17:23.16 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.99 * r323 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:23.18 | Repo | - |
| 17:23.22 | yoshimo | what is danielbarron doing? |
| 17:23.24 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.234 * r324 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:23.26 | Repo | - |
| 17:23.30 | Torhal | yoshimo: Failing to use version control. |
| 17:23.41 | Shadowed | really badly |
| 17:23.54 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.235 * r325 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:23.56 | Repo | - |
| 17:23.58 | Shadowed | .... |
| 17:24.02 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r326 tags/ (20 files in 20 directories): RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:24.04 | Repo | - |
| 17:24.10 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.243 * r327 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 17:24.12 | Repo | - Tagged as stable. |
| 17:24.21 | Shadowed | Took him! |
| 17:24.24 | sb|work | wtf? |
| 17:24.33 | Kalroth | kinky |
| 17:24.50 | Torhal | And he stops, just as I was about to disable his IRC reporting. |
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| 17:28.23 | Fisker | hey Shadowed |
| 17:28.26 | Fisker | your addon kinda sucks :( |
| 17:28.34 | Shadowed | Fisker: anything you say is invalid so that's fine |
| 17:29.54 | Repo | 10fu-bar_addon-spam-fu: 03yoshimo * r97 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added more prefixes for DataStore &Altoholic |
| 17:29.56 | Repo | Updated TOC |
| 17:30.53 | Torhal | yoshimo: Why not Broker? :) |
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| 17:31.55 | Fisker | i'm going to disagree there Shadowed |
| 17:33.00 | yoshimo | torhal, already planned ;) |
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| 17:33.33 | Torhal | yoshimo: Good deal. |
| 17:34.02 | yoshimo | time to say goodbye to acedb-2.0 and aceOO-2.0 |
| 17:34.13 | Torhal | And FuBarPlugin |
| 17:34.16 | Torhal | And DewDrop |
| 17:34.18 | Torhal | And... |
| 17:34.21 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 17:35.22 | yoshimo | 11 embedded ace2 libs |
| 17:35.45 | Aeyan | I really, really wish I could. My OCD starts to flare everytime I look at the /libs in Grid. |
| 17:36.16 | Aeyan | I've gotten far too set in my ways, I guess |
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| 17:43.26 | wink | agrees with Shadowed |
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| 17:46.50 | stolenlegacy | Belazor: working on a profbars fix now |
| 17:47.08 | Belazor | about fucking time XD |
| 17:47.13 | stolenlegacy | yeah, yeah |
| 17:47.16 | stolenlegacy | was busy with srf and btt |
| 17:47.45 | Belazor | I left my care in my other pants D: |
| 17:47.48 | Belazor | xP |
| 17:48.17 | Belazor | My mage is 76. SEVENTY SIX. SIX FUCKING LEVELS IVE HAD TO MANUALLY DISENCHANT SHIT. IM GONNA SUE YOU FOR ALL THE TIME I WASTED, YOU HEAR!? |
| 17:48.48 | stolenlegacy | 0/10 |
| 17:49.03 | stolenlegacy | but you tried |
| 17:49.18 | Belazor | -.- |
| 17:49.47 | stolenlegacy | lua> print(loadstring("print (true)")) |
| 17:49.47 | lua_bot | stolenlegacy: function: 0x9e57b28 |
| 17:49.50 | stolenlegacy | lua> print(loadstring("print (true)")()) |
| 17:49.50 | lua_bot | stolenlegacy: true |
| 17:51.16 | Torhal | Belazor: l2Panda |
| 17:51.18 | Torhal | :D |
| 17:53.13 | stolenlegacy | does anyone know if SetPoint is intelligent enough to un-pack the contents of a table if said table is passed instead of the usual args? |
| 17:53.24 | nevcairiel | of course not |
| 17:53.28 | stolenlegacy | :( |
| 17:54.00 | Fisker | manually disenchant what? |
| 17:54.19 | stolenlegacy | then how do i pass the contents of a table as seperate arguments to a function without knowing how many entries the table has? |
| 17:54.33 | nevcairiel | you unpack the table |
| 17:54.34 | stolenlegacy | like, i pass my function "SetPoint" and {"BOTTOMLEFT", UIParent, db.offsets.jc.x, db.offsets.jc.y} |
| 17:54.51 | Torhal | stolenlegacy SetPoint(unpack(table)) |
| 17:54.58 | stolenlegacy | Torhal: many thanks |
| 17:55.07 | Torhal | actually, nevcairiel answered first :) |
| 17:55.14 | nevcairiel | also passing around dynamic tables is nearly always a wrong approach :D |
| 17:55.22 | Torhal | Aye |
| 17:55.46 | stolenlegacy | nevcairiel: yeah, but writing a new delay function for each single action i do with my frames isn't either |
| 17:56.01 | stolenlegacy | since blizz doesn't like moving protected spellcast templates in-combat, it seems |
| 17:56.03 | nevcairiel | maybe the whole design is flawed |
| 17:56.06 | stolenlegacy | maybe |
| 17:57.06 | stolenlegacy | ah, yeah - if i call frame["Show"] instead of frame:Show() i need to do frame["Show"](frame), right? |
| 17:58.02 | Torhal | If that's a function-in-table, yes |
| 17:58.09 | stolenlegacy | i assume it is |
| 17:58.17 | stolenlegacy | since a frame is a kind of table |
| 17:58.56 | stolenlegacy | and instead of frame:SetPoint(arg1, arg2, arg3) i do frame["SetPoint"](frame, arg1, arg2, arg3) the same way? (just want to be sure) |
| 17:59.05 | Torhal | Yes |
| 17:59.09 | stolenlegacy | good, thanks |
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| 18:28.08 | Fisker | but Shadowed |
| 18:28.13 | Fisker | i want timers on all buffs :( |
| 18:28.13 | Shadowed | no buts |
| 18:28.18 | Shadowed | huh? |
| 18:28.40 | Fisker | yeah you heard me |
| 18:29.35 | Shadowed | OmniCC already shows timers on all buffs |
| 18:29.47 | Fisker | wut? |
| 18:30.02 | Shadowed | You don't have OmniCC do you? |
| 18:30.17 | Fisker | i do |
| 18:30.25 | Fisker | here's a hint |
| 18:30.26 | Fisker | COOLDOWN |
| 18:30.27 | Fisker | COUNT |
| 18:30.31 | Fisker | not BUFF COUNT |
| 18:30.38 | Fisker | and no it doesn't work buffs :o |
| 18:30.57 | Fisker | rages |
| 18:31.08 | nevcairiel | OmniCC works with everything that has a cooldown model |
| 18:31.23 | Znuff | you want what? |
| 18:31.47 | yoshimo | can i change the blizzard buff display to have more rows with less buffs per row? |
| 18:32.04 | Shadowed | OmniCC works on buffs, because I use OmniCC and it works on buffs :p |
| 18:32.13 | Shadowed | If OmniCC doesn't show up, you made the text too big for the buff |
| 18:33.46 | Znuff | sim waut a sec |
| 18:33.49 | Znuff | erm |
| 18:33.55 | Znuff | shifted a row to the left |
| 18:34.02 | Znuff | so, wait a sec |
| 18:34.10 | Znuff | OmniCC shows the timers left on the icon buffs? |
| 18:34.11 | Znuff | or? |
| 18:34.21 | Znuff | (I haven't used it ever) |
| 18:35.57 | Shadowed | Yes it does |
| 18:36.13 | Znuff | cool |
| 18:36.15 | Znuff | gotta try that |
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| 18:36.33 | Shadowed | I need to just build a FAQ into this |
| 18:37.06 | Znuff | You need to document bugs :D |
| 18:37.20 | Znuff | "Yes, clicking on something makes the scrollbar jump up" |
| 18:37.36 | Znuff | "You have to resize the window to be able to edit tags" |
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| 18:39.34 | Fisker | doesn't work regardless of what fontsize i give it |
| 18:40.16 | Fisker | only on my own flask does it show |
| 18:40.33 | Fisker | and no timers for self auras only isn't ticked |
| 18:40.45 | Gaz | tried EBB? |
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| 18:45.12 | Shadowed | !@#$12390481 |
| 18:45.14 | Shadowed | I swear to god |
| 18:45.23 | Shadowed | I am going to find a newspaper and slap the author of HealBot like a bad puppy |
| 18:45.30 | Shadowed | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.54 | Znuff | yeah, I'm gonna find that ShadowedUF author and slap him silly with his typos, too |
| 18:47.58 | Znuff | :-" |
| 18:48.09 | Shadowed | A typo is better than modifying a library directly :p |
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| 18:52.06 | Fisker | am still mad with Shadowed |
| 18:52.14 | Shadowed | Go be bad at HealBot author for being stupid |
| 18:52.18 | Shadowed | mad even |
| 18:52.27 | asmodai | pffft |
| 18:52.29 | Fisker | i wouldn't use healbot |
| 18:52.30 | asmodai | Fisker and mad |
| 18:52.38 | asmodai | That's like a perpetual state of mind. |
| 18:53.09 | Znuff | can't get used to SUF's raid frames :-? |
| 18:53.30 | Fisker | who would use suf raid frames? |
| 18:54.08 | Znuff | *shrug* |
| 18:54.32 | Amadeo | any kind of autobar type addons still exist? |
| 18:54.43 | Znuff | autobar? |
| 18:54.49 | Amadeo | wasn't that the name? I forget now |
| 18:55.01 | Amadeo | the one that puts highest potions up on the bar automatically and stuff |
| 18:55.06 | Amadeo | bandages, etc |
| 18:55.23 | wink | Shadowed: does that mean disabled healcomm in healbot? |
| 18:55.47 | asmodai | Jesus |
| 18:55.55 | asmodai | did you see that achievement post on mmo-champion? |
| 18:56.17 | Shadowed | wink: As in, he is completely disabling his instance of LibHealComm-4.0 if the user sets that they don't want HealComm to be used in HealBot |
| 18:57.23 | Shadowed | but if SUF or PB are also running with HealBot and their versions aren't loaded, LHC is broken in them too |
| 18:57.40 | Torhal | Amadeo: I believe you already said the name of the AddOn,. |
| 18:57.45 | asmodai | Aww no, not the LHC broken again. They only just did the test again. |
| 18:57.51 | winkiller | I see |
| 18:58.03 | winkiller | LibHealComm? :D |
| 18:58.12 | Torhal | large Hadron Collider. |
| 18:58.23 | asmodai | pats Torhal |
| 18:58.31 | Torhal | drools. |
| 18:58.36 | asmodai | Someone who understands my jokes! |
| 18:58.49 | Shadowed | Joking when I'm running out the door fails! |
| 18:58.51 | Shadowed | anyway poof |
| 18:58.59 | asmodai | Shadowed: So, *cough*, a loaded question perhaps, why should I take SUF over Pitbull? |
| 18:59.02 | asmodai | No! |
| 18:59.03 | asmodai | Crap. |
| 18:59.17 | Shadowed | If you want something simpler to configure, go use SUF otherwise go use Pitbull :p |
| 18:59.23 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 18:59.30 | asmodai | That might be quite the reason! |
| 18:59.38 | Shadowed | I don't really care what people use! |
| 19:00.03 | asmodai | Understandable, just wondering what it might benefit me. :) |
| 19:02.54 | Torhal | asmodai: SUF couldn't possibly have rabies, for example. |
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| 19:03.18 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 19:03.24 | asmodai | Fair point! |
| 19:03.41 | asmodai | I love PB's look 'n feel, but the configuration causes me to despair. |
| 19:03.45 | Adremma | Amadeo: for just HP and MP stuff, Buffet (http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/buffet.aspx) works very nicely, IMO; as I recall, Autobar did more than that, but that was the part I cared about |
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| 19:09.31 | Znuff | actually I find SUF pretty complicated to configure for my liking :P |
| 19:09.41 | Znuff | but I like it |
| 19:20.02 | yoshimo | dito |
| 19:22.11 | Repo | 10professionbars: 03stolenlegacy * r35 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:22.13 | Repo | Fixing a shitload of bugs with Showing/Hiding in combat and one with moving enchanting bars. |
| 19:23.36 | asmodai | I'll give it a whirl. |
| 19:24.13 | yoshimo | hbGUID. is that another prefix for healbot again? |
| 19:24.25 | stolenlegacy | Belazor: *fanfare* |
| 19:24.37 | stolenlegacy | ima done! |
| 19:27.40 | asmodai | stolenlegacy: You are never done |
| 19:29.21 | yoshimo | Shadowed , did you look at the textures for the players role from the ptr yet? |
| 19:30.27 | stolenlegacy | asmodai: :(( |
| 19:32.01 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r404 / (3 files in 1 directory): phishing update |
| 19:36.33 | Fisker | why must the items i need on my main drop on the runs my alt does |
| 19:36.39 | Fisker | and items i need on my alt drop on the runs my main does? |
| 19:36.42 | Fisker | ffffffffffuuuuuuuuu- |
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| 19:38.11 | Torhal | Fisker: You've been flagged, is why. |
| 19:38.12 | yoshimo | healbot still has LibQuickHealth-2.0 in its optdeps |
| 19:38.20 | Torhal | yoshimo: HealBot is fail. |
| 19:38.36 | Torhal | Once downranking was nerfed it should have ceased to exist |
| 19:40.06 | nevcairiel | its just another raid frame now |
| 19:40.54 | Fisker | grid ftw |
| 19:40.56 | Fisker | healbot = die |
| 19:41.44 | yoshimo | i still hope grid2 will replace grid soon |
| 19:41.48 | Shadowed | no haven't had time yoshimo |
| 19:42.05 | Fisker | grid2 sucks |
| 19:42.25 | Shadowed | HealBot is terrible and it makes me sad that it's so popular for being such an evil piece of code |
| 19:42.30 | yoshimo | why? i didnt try it yet fisker |
| 19:42.52 | yoshimo | same goes for dbm shadowed ;) |
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| 19:43.02 | Shadowed | That too |
| 19:43.30 | stolenlegacy | Fisker: srf(_a) ftw |
| 19:43.34 | stolenlegacy | Fisker: grid = die |
| 19:43.42 | stolenlegacy | Fisker: healbot = die |
| 19:43.49 | Repo | 10fu-bar_addon-spam-fu: 03yoshimo * r98 AddonSpamFu.lua: and another HealBot-prefix *sigh* |
| 19:44.33 | yoshimo | stolenlegacy , how about suf:grid? |
| 19:44.39 | stolenlegacy | yoshimo: ? |
| 19:45.46 | yoshimo | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw28620.png for shadowed unitframes, does that need to die as well? |
| 19:46.02 | Shadowed | the grid module is terrible |
| 19:46.04 | Shadowed | redoing it |
| 19:46.11 | stolenlegacy | yoshimo: in that case, i guess it should |
| 19:46.19 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1248 Grid.toc: Update toc for another release. |
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| 19:53.23 | yoshimo | pastamancer , sometimes my grid shows wrong colors , in this example the mage has a pink background as if he was a paladin http://img3.abload.de/img/wowscrnshot_112709_222edka.jpg |
| 19:53.55 | yoshimo | also der fontcolor is wrong for the druid on the upper right |
| 19:53.55 | pastamancer | yoshimo: samira? |
| 19:54.23 | yoshimo | sry, what do you want? |
| 19:54.23 | pastamancer | yoshimo: that is odd |
| 19:54.37 | pastamancer | yoshimo: so zsor is the mage, and grub is the druid? |
| 19:54.52 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v4.0.0.9 * r405 : Tagging as v4.0.0.9 |
| 19:54.58 | yoshimo | samira= paladin, zsorran= mage, gruebi is a druid, saracene is paladin as well |
| 19:55.04 | yoshimo | we did totc5 |
| 19:55.24 | Fisker | btw pastamancer |
| 19:55.44 | Fisker | you have any idea why the center icon no longer shows a timer for raid debuffs? |
| 19:56.07 | pastamancer | nope, it should... if you're using the built-in auras module |
| 19:56.38 | Fisker | dunno about that |
| 19:56.40 | Repo | 10speedyactions: 03Shadowed 07master * 1.0-release-1-g42e467d SpeedyActions.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed manually clicking the recall and multi-cast group summon buttons not being sped |
| 19:56.41 | pastamancer | yoshimo: I'd have to see your settings... if you switch to a new profile, are the colors still wrong? |
| 19:57.06 | Fisker | but i've been using the addon gridraidstatusdebuffs or whatever it's called |
| 19:57.12 | Fisker | it automatically maintains debuffs |
| 19:57.12 | pastamancer | oh, it might not be providing the duration |
| 19:57.15 | pastamancer | they should steal the debuff parsing code from the auras module |
| 19:57.18 | Fisker | it's worked since about 2 weeks ago |
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| 19:59.47 | pastamancer | and other auras show the timer? and we're talking about the spinny timer and not a text timer, right? |
| 19:59.56 | Fisker | text timer |
| 20:00.02 | pastamancer | hm |
| 20:00.07 | Repo | 10speedyactions: 03Shadowed 041.1-release * 446c7d2 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.1 release |
| 20:00.20 | pastamancer | I don't even remember if a text timer is part of grid or not |
| 20:00.27 | Fisker | :P |
| 20:00.31 | Fisker | was kinda my idea |
| 20:00.38 | Fisker | thinking i had some addon that did it |
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| 20:01.00 | pastamancer | it's been a long time since I've played |
| 20:01.17 | Fisker | ah |
| 20:01.28 | Fisker | de/buffs have a "show duration option" |
| 20:02.05 | pastamancer | oh right... I see that now... it uses the stack text |
| 20:02.53 | Fisker | There's also a similar option in the raid debuffs addon but for whatever reason it must not be working |
| 20:03.31 | pastamancer | hmm, stack size overwrites duration |
| 20:03.44 | Fisker | actually show duration doesn't show text anyways |
| 20:03.58 | pastamancer | that code could be cleaned up |
| 20:03.59 | Fisker | only the cooldown wheel or whatever you call it |
| 20:04.25 | pastamancer | show duration should show text duration if stack size is 1 |
| 20:05.03 | Fisker | well the buff i'm testing has no stack |
| 20:05.31 | pastamancer | maybe someone fucked up the code... |
| 20:05.38 | pastamancer | lemme dig through the history |
| 20:06.03 | Fisker | a couple of weeks may not do justice |
| 20:06.05 | Dhraga | I know that this is the wrong area for this but is there anyone that could answer a sql code question ? |
| 20:06.23 | pastamancer | depends on the flavor |
| 20:06.51 | Fisker | it's sometime in september according to my shots |
| 20:07.15 | Fisker | 2nd September it has text, 24th september it doesn't |
| 20:07.32 | pastamancer | Fisker: maybe 2009-08-31? |
| 20:07.44 | Fisker | could be |
| 20:08.06 | pastamancer | that's the last commit to touch that section |
| 20:08.58 | pastamancer | can you test if I try to fix it? |
| 20:09.01 | pastamancer | Dhraga: ask |
| 20:09.10 | Fisker | sure |
| 20:09.24 | Dhraga | Let me pasty it, one sec |
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| 20:13.13 | pastamancer | oh wait |
| 20:13.18 | Dhraga | pastamancer, I have 2 join lines and both works separately are there anyway to merge the both join lines into one line ? http://www.pastey.net/129540 |
| 20:14.06 | pastamancer | Fisker: I misread the code... duration doesn't get printed as text in grid, that code just re-parented the stack text |
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| 20:16.16 | pastamancer | Dhraga: that looks like it should work, whatever code is turning that into a sql statement needs to support multiple joins |
| 20:16.59 | Fisker | ;o? |
| 20:17.09 | Dhraga | pastamancer, thanks |
| 20:18.03 | pastamancer | Dhraga: maybe $sql['JOIN'] = array(array(join1), array(join2)) |
| 20:19.30 | Dhraga | pastamancer, I'll try it directly |
| 20:20.13 | pastamancer | Fisker: I'm remembering now... I didn't want to have to have running timers to update text (like the GridStatusHots does) so I just used the cooldown timer which takes care of all that in C |
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| 20:22.00 | DWSR | Shefki: ping |
| 20:22.33 | DWSR | ~seen ckknight |
| 20:22.34 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 5h 4m 39s ago, saying: 'I'll clone it'. |
| 20:24.11 | Fisker | So meaning it's not a bug it's a feature or that i can get text back? :P |
| 20:25.15 | pastamancer | meaning that it's some other addon supplying the text |
| 20:25.53 | Fisker | oh |
| 20:26.12 | Fisker | must've been omnicc then |
| 20:26.29 | Fisker | Because i don't see timers on buffs in suf either |
| 20:26.35 | Fisker | but Shadowed claims omnicc does it |
| 20:26.42 | pastamancer | that would make sense |
| 20:27.00 | pastamancer | kinda neat that omnicc just works automatically with grid |
| 20:27.38 | Fisker | ah lulz |
| 20:27.41 | Fisker | found it |
| 20:27.48 | Fisker | hahaha |
| 20:27.58 | pastamancer | was it omnicc? |
| 20:28.00 | Fisker | learn2writedescriptions :( |
| 20:28.01 | Fisker | yeah |
| 20:28.11 | pastamancer | ok, later |
| 20:28.20 | Fisker | it has a feature called "Size Threshold" |
| 20:28.28 | Fisker | which i don't know what is |
| 20:28.31 | Fisker | but adjusting it fixed it |
| 20:29.11 | Fisker | slaps Shadowed around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:30.05 | Fisker | i also demand omnicc renamed omnic! |
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| 20:30.41 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2708 ARLFrame.lua: |
| 20:30.44 | Repo | Renamed HideARL_ExpOptCB() to ShowFilterMenu(), and removed unnecessary calls to SetText(). |
| 20:30.46 | Repo | Cleaned up FilterValueMap a bit. |
| 20:30.47 | Repo | Moved creation of the expansion buttons to the main file body, and move CreateExpansionButton() into the same do block. |
| 20:36.15 | yoshimo | the problem is pasta , i cant reproduce it 100%, sometimes it happens in a group and sometimes it doesnt, so i dont know if a new profile would help |
| 20:48.47 | orionshock | i've prolly asked this before, but is there a good gui for git on linux? |
| 20:49.05 | orionshock | i know there is prolly many, but any of them good? (note: im switching from svn to git) |
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| 21:03.51 | asmodai | Age test |
| 21:03.52 | asmodai | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niJdEaIfPP4 |
| 21:04.45 | StijnH | Hi. Was wondering if anyone knows the reason for Cartographer's weird way of storing coordinates (which makes it a nightmare to add a batch of coords straight in the Lua file)? What I've found is, it stores it like this: y*100 & (x*100 + y*100)-10000 |
| 21:05.22 | StijnH | that -10000 is only if the sum is larger than that |
| 21:05.39 | StijnH | at least that's what I could make from analyzing the Lua savedvars |
| 21:05.41 | nevcairiel | well it mostly does that so it can store them as one number, and doesnt need two fields, but your formula seems rather weird |
| 21:06.12 | StijnH | I tried a few coordinates and that seems to be the formula |
| 21:06.45 | nevcairiel | you should look through the cartographer code for the original formula |
| 21:06.52 | orionshock | StijnH: do you mean v = y*100 + (x*100 + y*100) -1000 ? |
| 21:06.57 | StijnH | I tried, but the file is huge :p |
| 21:07.08 | StijnH | I mean -10000 |
| 21:07.26 | StijnH | For example: 10, 12 is stored as 12002200 |
| 21:08.24 | StijnH | 49.38, 56.81 is stored as (with some rounding it seems) 56810620. If you do '4938+5681-10000' you get 620 (almost) |
| 21:09.06 | nevcairiel | StijnH: http://paste.wowace.com/1463/ |
| 21:09.10 | nevcairiel | thats the real formula |
| 21:09.22 | nevcairiel | well the two functions for converting in both directions, anyway |
| 21:11.29 | StijnH | 10,12 is saved as 120022000 then, looks like the last 0 is dropped for some reason |
| 21:12.05 | yoshimo | which talenttree do hunters use for pvp nowadays? |
| 21:12.35 | StijnH | Ok well thank you for the formula. Just don't really understand why it can't be saved as 'x*100 & y*100' |
| 21:13.06 | nevcairiel | dunny why there is a 10001 in there |
| 21:13.13 | nevcairiel | instead of just plain 10000 |
| 21:13.36 | orionshock | StijnH: saving x/y separately uses 2 variables, the way most addons use that method in cartograher and only have to save 1 variable. cuts down on table use. |
| 21:14.54 | StijnH | With the & sign I mean, just put them together. For example if you have the coords 31.56, 48.19 save them as 31564819 instead of using that weird looking formula |
| 21:15.00 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.17 | nevcairiel | they use * 10000 to allow for more accuracy |
| 21:15.29 | orionshock | math functions are cheeper than string functions |
| 21:15.37 | nevcairiel | instead of * 100 |
| 21:15.42 | nevcairiel | otherwise its the same |
| 21:15.50 | nevcairiel | except that there is that weird * 10001 in there =p |
| 21:16.08 | StijnH | that would explain it then, orion. thanks :) |
| 21:16.57 | StijnH | and yes, *10000 would make more sense than *10001 |
| 21:17.27 | StijnH | *1000 even, since that last 0 is dropped anyway. but i guess that has a reason too |
| 21:18.59 | orionshock | gg why is gear score so epic fail? |
| 21:19.28 | yoshimo | because people cant use it ? |
| 21:21.12 | Fisker | i can use it |
| 21:21.36 | Fisker | if my gear score < other peoples gear score but > standard gearscore then i can use them for my raid |
| 21:24.35 | asmodai | heuh |
| 21:24.36 | asmodai | this is odd |
| 21:25.01 | asmodai | my curse client is set to not install libs separately, yet when I installed SUF it installed Ace and Libhealcom separately? |
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| 21:35.17 | DWSR | asmodai: LibHealComm |
| 21:35.56 | asmodai | Yeah ok, forgot the additional m. |
| 21:37.19 | asmodai | I wonder if it is the curse client causing this or SUF forcing this in some way. |
| 21:38.23 | DWSR | asmodai: You using v3 or v4? |
| 21:38.28 | asmodai | 4 |
| 21:39.11 | DWSR | no idea then. |
| 21:40.54 | DWSR | Yeah, is's CC causing that. |
| 21:41.03 | DWSR | LibHealComm got downloaded seperately when I tried installing SUF. |
| 21:41.08 | asmodai | Crap, must be a recent bug then. |
| 21:41.14 | asmodai | I even explicitly went to options |
| 21:41.18 | DWSR | yeah, I did as well. |
| 21:41.27 | asmodai | to reset all the install separately |
| 21:41.29 | DWSR | tbh, doesn't botherme. |
| 21:42.24 | DWSR | Having to relog for addons is really fucking painful with an authenticator. |
| 21:42.33 | asmodai | Heh |
| 21:44.48 | chiper | tekkub: ping |
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| 21:48.58 | nevcairiel | asmodai: thats not CCs fault |
| 21:49.05 | nevcairiel | blame Shadowed, he set it up to work like that |
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| 21:51.26 | Fisker | blame Shadowed indeed |
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| 21:53.16 | asmodai | nevcairiel: ok cool, figured as much since I tried another addon with deps, which didn't act like that |
| 21:54.58 | DWSR | WTB the dev team for Eclipse a drink. |
| 21:55.22 | DWSR | Eclipse with Mylyn is fucking sexual. |
| 21:56.33 | asmodai | Sure is. |
| 21:56.41 | asmodai | recently documented how to get it working with Trac. |
| 21:57.05 | Fisker | aww |
| 21:57.21 | Fisker | i made some alliance veeeeeeeeery disappointed |
| 21:57.50 | Fisker | was killing 5-6 alliance spread over river's heart in sholazaar |
| 21:58.05 | Fisker | Then they decided i was a jerk and they grouped up to kill me :( |
| 21:58.32 | asmodai | And rightfully so. |
| 21:58.47 | Fisker | naw |
| 21:58.49 | Fisker | naaaaaaaaaaw |
| 21:58.51 | Fisker | they're alliance |
| 21:59.07 | Znuff | they're up to version 3.2, 3.3 soon and you STILL have to re-log for addons |
| 21:59.41 | Fisker | duh |
| 21:59.55 | Fisker | that's a design decision |
| 22:00.06 | Znuff | ? |
| 22:01.14 | Fisker | they pretty much sandbox the game on startup i believe |
| 22:01.27 | Znuff | meh :-/ |
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| 22:09.08 | Fisker | YOU HAVE MY AXE |
| 22:10.50 | asmodai | And my porn collection! |
| 22:10.51 | Fisker | so did this alliance shaman as he was trying to solo chillmaw |
| 22:11.36 | Fisker | ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu- |
| 22:11.48 | Fisker | i hate elemental shamans that get a jump |
| 22:11.51 | Fisker | you're fucking dead ;( |
| 22:17.42 | Fisker | Shadowed |
| 22:20.12 | Fisker | looks like the soloing chillmaw players didn't want my axe afterall |
| 22:20.27 | Fisker | so now they're 2 dk's 1 druid, 1 shaman and 1 hunter |
| 22:20.28 | Fisker | :( |
| 22:41.25 | asmodai | http://www.wowbash.com/image-5032.html |
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| 23:03.54 | asmodai | Anyone else see launcher keep saying new patch data is available, despite having the full file already? |
| 23:04.10 | asmodai | Wonder if it might be some permission thinghy on a directory or so in Win7. |
| 23:08.05 | Fisker | 3 alliance sofar on this chillmaw |
| 23:08.32 | Fisker | aww |
| 23:08.35 | Fisker | one left :( |
| 23:09.56 | nevcairiel | i always solod him |
| 23:10.07 | nevcairiel | way easier then waiting on some morons :P |
| 23:12.39 | Fisker | true |
| 23:12.53 | Fisker | but Chillmaw + Horde Paladin isn't easily soloable |
| 23:13.23 | Fisker | but they came with reinforcements |
| 23:13.34 | Fisker | tank dk, tank druid, tank pala, warlock and mage |
| 23:14.02 | Fisker | couldn't even get the mage before i was being chain stunned,slowed and gribbed by the 3 tanks :( |
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| 23:37.12 | theoddone33 | anyone know of a mod that lets you adjust what you're tracking independent of the minimap button? |
| 23:38.18 | profalbert | theoddone33: maybe http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_tracking/ |
| 23:38.31 | Yssaril | bah was just gonna link that |
| 23:38.36 | theoddone33 | thanks |
| 23:38.41 | theoddone33 | tht's kind of exactly what I wanted |
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| 23:49.48 | theoddone33 | that's a good mod, but I bet it doesn't scan for tracker snacks in your invnetory and use them :) |
| 23:50.00 | theoddone33 | if it did I'd be amazed |
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