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| 00:10.01 | Belazor | Ok which one of you bastids crashed the EU login server? |
| 00:10.16 | Belazor | I GOT A CAN OF ASSWHOOPIN IMMA ABOUT TO OPEN ON Y'ALL |
| 00:13.47 | Groktar | notes that the us login server is working correctly |
| 00:14.01 | Belazor | 16/11 Login unavailable |
| 00:14.01 | Belazor | Due to technical issues the login servers are currently offline. The issues are being addressed and will be resolved as soon as possible.As soon as we have an estimate for when the login servers will be fully operational again we will update you. Last updated at 01:00CET.We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. |
| 00:14.07 | Belazor | rage =( |
| 00:16.59 | Codayus_ | Why even bother to say "technical issues"? |
| 00:17.09 | Codayus_ | What problem might there possibly be that isn't technical? |
| 00:17.17 | Belazor | spiritual |
| 00:17.18 | Belazor | XD |
| 00:17.55 | Codayus_ | "We took them down because we hate users." "Due to political instability in France..." "A demon invasion has temporarily..." ...hm, actually demons would probably be a technical issue too. |
| 00:18.15 | Codayus_ | Since they'd mainly impact login servers via power outages and so forth, I'd think. |
| 00:18.31 | Belazor | Or incineration. |
| 00:18.39 | Belazor | I hear demons are big into things being on fire. |
| 00:18.45 | Codayus_ | Lawsuits is probably the most plausible non-technical issue. |
| 00:19.08 | Codayus_ | Well |
| 00:19.18 | Codayus_ | If the server is on fire, I'd call it a technical issue. :) |
| 00:20.44 | Belazor | True enough, I wasn't saying it wasn't |
| 00:20.53 | Codayus_ | While we're on the subject... "We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause." |
| 00:21.14 | Codayus_ | Why not say "we apologise for the inconvenience this will cause."? It's not like there's any question. |
| 00:21.33 | Belazor | or just, the inconvenience |
| 00:21.54 | Codayus_ | Even better. |
| 00:22.18 | Belazor | Cause if you're reading the notice (which they'll take down once it's resolved, surely) then you have been looking for it because you've been inconvenienced |
| 00:22.19 | Belazor | XD |
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| 04:55.44 | harl | lol.. how die the bat get in my room oO |
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| 05:04.36 | harl | *did |
| 05:06.05 | Groktar | curls up in harl's lap and dies |
| 05:06.34 | harl | x( |
| 05:06.59 | harl | resurrects Groktar |
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| 05:23.13 | Repo | 10shunkit: 03LaoTseu * r23 ShuckIt.lua: Still attempting to get rid of the taint issue with clams. |
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| 06:13.20 | FtH|Daemona | hmm anyone able to help me wrap my mind around this error? http://ace.pastey.net/128792 (probably having multiple versions of embedded ace?) |
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| 06:15.39 | Torhal | FtH|Daemona: That means a table index which you're trying to access is nil |
| 06:15.56 | Torhal | It also means you need to get the hell off of FuBar, since it's officially dead. |
| 06:16.47 | FtH|Daemona | giev 100% equivalent to moneyfu day / week / char breakdown :( |
| 06:17.05 | Torhal | FtH|Daemona: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/broker-currency.aspx |
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| 06:18.04 | FtH|Daemona | ok, how could that have slipped past me for 3 month? |
| 06:18.26 | Torhal | Been around longer than 3 months :) |
| 06:19.32 | FtH|Daemona | if you have an alternative for addonspamfu and instanceinfofu fubar is dead for me too ;) |
| 06:19.59 | FtH|Daemona | ok, found broker_instanceinfo ^^ |
| 06:20.25 | Torhal | Just run FuBar2Broker for SpamFu, since nobody has written a decent LDB evrsion |
| 06:20.35 | Torhal | s/evrsion/version/ |
| 06:20.55 | FtH|Daemona | i am running fubar2broker for those 3 addons ;) |
| 06:21.00 | Torhal | Aah |
| 06:21.13 | Torhal | I thought you were running FuBar still |
| 06:21.15 | Torhal | Heh |
| 06:22.17 | FtH|Daemona | at least that will fix the nil issue then ;) |
| 06:22.42 | FtH|Daemona | it's driving me mildly crazy as its basically the only lua error i am getting for month now on every login |
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| 06:28.14 | FtH|Daemona | haha Torhal -> http://ace.pastey.net/128796 |
| 06:30.17 | Torhal | I don't run that AddOn, and am not inclined to download it :) |
| 06:32.08 | Torhal | Same author... |
| 06:32.39 | Zhinjio | hey Torhal |
| 06:35.38 | FtH|Daemona | yeah the problem at hand i bet is, normal + heroic raid id's |
| 06:39.23 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yola |
| 06:39.38 | Torhal | FtH|Daemona: Yah, it hasn't been updated since June |
| 06:39.39 | Zhinjio | Torhal: what's new and exciting? |
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| 06:40.05 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Unknown. Still half-asleep from a 21-hour sleep binge |
| 06:40.11 | FtH|Daemona | ppl ranting about outdated modes with no obvious replacements |
| 06:40.20 | Zhinjio | nice. good when you can get it |
| 06:40.43 | FtH|Daemona | so any suggestions on alternatives to instanceinfofu or brokerinstanceinfo? |
| 06:40.46 | Torhal | I called in to work at 10am, went immediately back to bed, and woke up at 12:30am |
| 06:41.47 | Torhal | FtH|Daemona: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/fu-bar_raid-save-fu.aspx |
| 06:42.00 | Torhal | I have no idea why it still has that slug |
| 06:42.04 | Torhal | changes it. |
| 06:42.07 | FtH|Daemona | here we are with fubar again Torhal ;) |
| 06:42.12 | Torhal | It isn't |
| 06:42.17 | Torhal | It's SavedInstances |
| 06:42.26 | Torhal | Like I said, no idea why it still has that slug |
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| 06:44.41 | Torhal | FtH|Daemona: There we go, all fixed: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/saved_instances.aspx |
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| 06:45.47 | FtH|Daemona | we'll see ;) |
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| 06:50.35 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Have you even been playing WoW? |
| 06:50.44 | Zhinjio | not much. some. |
| 06:50.50 | Torhal | :( |
| 06:50.56 | Zhinjio | I try to run the jousting dailies once a day to get the pets |
| 06:51.02 | Zhinjio | on one of my toons |
| 06:51.08 | Zhinjio | been working pretty hard on gamepants |
| 06:51.12 | Torhal | I haven't been able to bring myself to do those yet |
| 06:51.19 | Torhal | OH? |
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| 06:51.21 | Zhinjio | yeah, I just started them about 2 weeks ago |
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| 07:10.00 | Adirelle1 | does anyone know a place listing a consolidated u&i changelog ? |
| 07:10.22 | Adirelle1 | I'm looking for the globals/this/event/argX deprecation changes |
| 07:14.18 | NivFreak | sigh |
| 07:14.38 | NivFreak | is there a boss mod with a rock solid shadow strike timer? |
| 07:14.41 | NivFreak | DXE is drifting |
| 07:14.54 | Torhal | !apidiff |
| 07:15.02 | Torhal | ~apidiff |
| 07:15.06 | Torhal | Bah |
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| 07:16.27 | Adirelle1 | Torhal: good try ^^ |
| 07:16.54 | Adirelle1 | I'm not even sure the event global is initialized anymore by the Blizzard code |
| 07:17.00 | Torhal | Adirelle1: I know jnwhiteh has a diff on wowprogramming somewhere |
| 07:18.00 | Adirelle1 | Torhal: ok, should I add "comprehensive" ? "does anyone know a place listing a comprehensive consolidated u&i changelog ?" |
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| 07:18.10 | Torhal | lol |
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| 07:18.47 | Trela_ | I forgot my MOUSE! |
| 07:18.48 | Adirelle1 | er... that's a "false friend" word, I meant human-readable :o |
| 07:18.56 | Torhal | Adirelle1: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/diff/FrameXML/INSERT_FILENAME_HERE |
| 07:19.19 | Torhal | Not too helpful, but better than othing |
| 07:19.23 | Adirelle1 | anyway, this only compares current PTR/current live or current live/previous live |
| 07:19.24 | Torhal | nothing* |
| 07:19.30 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 07:19.32 | Torhal | No clue |
| 07:19.43 | Adirelle1 | I think the this/event changes have been made some patches ago |
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| 07:21.30 | Adirelle1 | erm, even the ui¯o forum does not go past 3.1 changes |
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| 07:27.21 | mitch0 | why do you care anyway? just stop using those globals...? |
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| 07:28.46 | Adirelle1 | mitch0: I don't use them, I was just wondering is they are still working |
| 07:28.50 | Torhal | mitch0: It's for a noob addon coder who seems to not like following directions |
| 07:29.23 | Adirelle1 | BTW, I'm wondering if the default Blizzard tutorials have been updated with regard to these changes |
| 07:29.43 | mitch0 | someone should make an addon to taint those globals :P (if they still work by some chance) |
| 07:29.44 | Adirelle1 | I suspect they haven't |
| 07:29.58 | Torhal | If anything, they probably use more XML than before. Heh. |
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| 09:52.00 | asmodai | Mmm, that quest tracker of Blizzard's looks quite decent so far. |
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| 10:02.20 | Megalon | http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=runningittwicex6ls.jpg |
| 10:02.22 | Megalon | pwnd |
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| 10:13.41 | jnwhiteh | Does anyone know how I can figure out what commit removed a given file in a git repo? |
| 10:15.12 | krka | git log combined with grep? |
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| 10:16.48 | jnwhiteh | krka: that assumes the person mentioned it in the commit log |
| 10:17.07 | krka | hm, doesn't the log list files involved? |
| 10:17.14 | jnwhiteh | nope, but whatchanged does =) |
| 10:17.15 | jnwhiteh | thanks. |
| 10:18.01 | jnwhiteh | hrm, it wasn't removed.. the branches are just out of sync >< |
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| 10:27.57 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2659 AckisRecipeList.lua: (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 10:27.59 | Repo | Re-wrote addon:ToggleExcludeRecipe(). |
| 10:28.00 | Repo | Moved all of the "this API provided for external AddOns" functions to the end of the file. |
| 10:28.02 | Repo | Removed GetIDFromLink() - its code is used directly in the only place it was ever called. |
| 10:28.03 | Repo | Added NUM_FLAGS constant, and put it to use in the functions which were using a hard-coded number. |
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| 10:32.07 | Repo | 10bottle-cap: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v3.1-3-gb391b60 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 10:32.09 | Repo | b391b60: Bump Interface to 30200. |
| 10:32.10 | Repo | 81add2a: Add AddonLoader support. |
| 10:32.11 | Repo | fa3a519: Removed BOM. |
| 10:32.21 | Repo | 10bottle-cap: 03ethancentaurai 04v3.1.1 * 09d884e /: [new tag] Tagging as v3.1.1 |
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| 10:59.50 | Torhal | @describe bottle-cap |
| 10:59.52 | Repo | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bottle-cap/. BottleCap: an AntiCAPS addon. Converts ALL CAPS CHAT into lowercase chat. |
| 10:59.58 | Torhal | BWAHAHAHA |
| 11:00.02 | Torhal | EthanCentaurai: :D |
| 11:00.39 | EthanCentaurai | yes? :D |
| 11:00.56 | Torhal | Hehe, nothing. Just messing with ya |
| 11:02.06 | EthanCentaurai | :P |
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| 12:26.05 | asmodai | basks in the quiet times of the channel |
| 12:28.33 | Kalroth | asmodai: lalala |
| 12:28.56 | Kalroth | good thing nev isn't around, then he can't mute me |
| 12:38.38 | asmodai | Hahaha |
| 12:38.48 | asmodai | nevcairiel comes when you summon him |
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| 13:11.22 | sb|work | @describe bottleÂ-cap |
| 13:11.23 | Repo | sb|work: No project found that matches 'bottleÃ-cap' |
| 13:11.25 | sb|work | @describe bottle-cap |
| 13:11.26 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bottle-cap/. BottleCap: an AntiCAPS addon. Converts ALL CAPS CHAT into lowercase chat. |
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| 13:21.45 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy * r691 sRaidFramesLayout.lua: - Corner indicator scale is now modifyable |
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| 13:35.11 | sb|work | stolenlegacy: corner icons coming next_? :p |
| 13:35.32 | stolenlegacy | sb|work: i'll let this revision sit for a week first |
| 13:35.46 | stolenlegacy | didn't release any release revision for about a month now |
| 13:35.52 | sb|work | oh |
| 13:35.54 | stolenlegacy | need to make sure it is bug-free and then i'll push it |
| 13:36.08 | stolenlegacy | more updates afterwards |
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| 13:38.48 | sb|work | is it intended to have those corner indicators "behind" the frame? (set background to nonÃ-transparent) black) |
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| 13:41.26 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy * r692 sRaidFrames.toc: |
| 13:41.29 | Repo | Is it only me or doesn't the localization app immedeately recognize new strings? oO |
| 13:42.03 | stolenlegacy | sb|work: I think it isn't really set |
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| 13:48.10 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy * r693 sRaidFrames.lua: Indicators are now above the frame in rendering |
| 13:48.15 | stolenlegacy | sb|work: there you go |
| 13:48.27 | stolenlegacy | simply didn't notice before |
| 13:48.35 | Ingela | sb|work stolenlegacy just sucks |
| 13:48.42 | stolenlegacy | Ingela: ^^ |
| 13:48.54 | stolenlegacy | both of you found out at the same time :) |
| 13:50.07 | Ingela | sb|work i suggest you set alpha/beta for your curse client for srf.. that's where all my whine updates comes :D |
| 13:50.30 | stolenlegacy | Ingela: i assume he has, since he's got indicators |
| 13:50.47 | stolenlegacy | hrm, r693 is the last revision, r672 is the latest release |
| 13:50.54 | Ingela | stolenlegacy: corner icons coming next_? :p |
| 13:51.00 | Ingela | he said that before |
| 13:51.11 | Ingela | means he don't have them? :O |
| 13:51.17 | stolenlegacy | icons |
| 13:51.19 | stolenlegacy | not indicators |
| 13:51.20 | stolenlegacy | i assume |
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| 13:52.01 | Ingela | oh |
| 13:52.01 | Ingela | hmm |
| 13:52.03 | Ingela | yeah maybe |
| 13:52.34 | stolenlegacy | as for those, i'll just make user input spellname using SpellEditBox, then use GetSpellInfo to extract icon, and then use that one as background for the indicator |
| 13:52.54 | Ingela | =) |
| 13:52.59 | stolenlegacy | same with items |
| 13:53.32 | Ingela | yeah now they are working |
| 13:53.35 | Ingela | they are above :) |
| 13:54.25 | stolenlegacy | ofc they are |
| 13:54.32 | stolenlegacy | did i ever not fix something you whined about? |
| 13:54.52 | sb|work | yup, talking about icons, not indicators :p |
| 13:55.09 | stolenlegacy | sb|work: see above - but only after i got this revision released |
| 13:55.14 | sb|work | yup |
| 13:55.17 | sb|work | no problem :p |
| 13:55.25 | stolenlegacy | which i'll do if there are no errors until next wednesday |
| 13:55.30 | stolenlegacy | e.g. in 2 days |
| 13:55.41 | Ingela | yeah my fault, was just reading icons as indicators |
| 13:55.45 | Ingela | sorrrrrrrrrrrryyyyy |
| 13:55.47 | sb|work | Ingela: stop reporting errors for 2 days please |
| 13:55.51 | sb|work | then we will have icons :p |
| 13:55.53 | stolenlegacy | sb|work: nah |
| 13:55.56 | Ingela | :D |
| 13:56.05 | stolenlegacy | otherwise nev will be angry |
| 13:56.12 | stolenlegacy | if i release buggy stuffs |
| 13:56.15 | sb|work | what? there are other people reporting errors? :p |
| 13:56.35 | sb|work | nevcairiel isn't here! |
| 13:56.50 | stolenlegacy | remember when i just had gotten author access and was just release-ing everything? |
| 13:56.57 | sb|work | yes :p |
| 13:57.04 | stolenlegacy | we still got 15 comments or something from back then :/ |
| 13:57.22 | sb|work | you should do it like ackis then! |
| 13:57.28 | stolenlegacy | which is how? |
| 13:57.42 | Ingela | sb|work i'm not reporting errors, i'm saying, "fix this biatch" and he says "no" then i say "ok i give you a gem" or "this is an easy one plz update it" |
| 13:57.45 | sb|work | buggy releases, buggy betas, buggy everything |
| 13:57.52 | sb|work | so people stop complaining after a while... :p |
| 13:58.06 | stolenlegacy | which would lead to my author access being reverted |
| 13:58.10 | stolenlegacy | so, no |
| 13:58.34 | stolenlegacy | Ingela: mostly the way with the gem |
| 13:58.35 | stolenlegacy | :D |
| 13:58.43 | Ingela | yeap |
| 13:58.43 | Ingela | :) |
| 13:59.00 | stolenlegacy | your fault for recruiting me into your guild - i wouldn't have said that if I had stayed on azshara |
| 13:59.08 | stolenlegacy | (ohnoez now i'm surely gonna fail my trial) |
| 13:59.13 | Ingela | :D:D |
| 13:59.28 | sb|work | hm.. need DKs, wanna join my guild? :p |
| 13:59.57 | stolenlegacy | my main's resto dr00d |
| 14:00.21 | sb|work | oh no problem, thats also fine :p |
| 14:00.37 | stolenlegacy | ^.^ |
| 14:02.56 | Belazor | stolenlegacy: less QQ more fixing profbars |
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| 14:07.18 | stolenlegacy | Belazor: i'll get to it |
| 14:07.25 | Belazor | NAO |
| 14:07.38 | stolenlegacy | right now i'm doing daily hc |
| 14:09.46 | Belazor | Do I need to start making degrading comments about your mother and her sexual prowess? OR ARE YOU GONNA DO AS TOLD |
| 14:09.46 | Belazor | XD |
| 14:09.55 | stolenlegacy | neither |
| 14:09.59 | Belazor | =( |
| 14:12.33 | mitch0 | belazor: did you try the left/right margin stuff? |
| 14:13.12 | Belazor | Well... um... I... here's the thing, see... iKindaWentBackToDockingstation *hides* |
| 14:13.23 | mitch0 | meh :P |
| 14:13.27 | Belazor | XD |
| 14:13.42 | mitch0 | what does it do better? |
| 14:13.50 | Belazor | Bar backgrounds |
| 14:13.54 | Belazor | it has more choices |
| 14:14.24 | Belazor | I can screenshit if it helps |
| 14:14.35 | mitch0 | hm. probably it uses StatusBar stuff instead of Background stuff |
| 14:15.04 | Belazor | 2 SS' coming up |
| 14:17.42 | Belazor | Textures: http://img214.yfrog.com/img214/3635/wowscrnshot111609151435.jpg - Effects: http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4672/wowscrnshot111609151651.jpg |
| 14:17.54 | Belazor | ignore the fucked UI, it was a customisation I made of my proper one for a friend using a lower resolution :p |
| 14:19.53 | mitch0 | uhhum |
| 14:20.12 | mitch0 | it's using status bar textures instead of background textures. I got that request once |
| 14:20.22 | mitch0 | dunno about the effects though |
| 14:20.50 | Belazor | I have no idea what it means, I just know that I didnt have enough reason to try to force myself to get used to something else when what I had worked fine |
| 14:20.51 | Belazor | XD |
| 14:21.14 | mitch0 | ok, no hard feelings |
| 14:21.19 | mitch0 | pingfloods belazor |
| 14:21.25 | Belazor | ;_; |
| 14:22.10 | Belazor | but yea I would suggest you look at every bit of customisation that DS does, and then offer the same xD |
| 14:22.45 | Belazor | basically, if you can make it possible to have 2 identical bars, one powered by Baz and one by DS, then Ill switch |
| 14:22.46 | Belazor | XD |
| 14:23.46 | mitch0 | I could probably do that, but you're not worthy of it :P |
| 14:25.02 | Belazor | your mom :( |
| 14:25.06 | mitch0 | although I'll consider using the status bar textures instead of the normal ones |
| 14:25.30 | Belazor | moar customisation is never bad |
| 14:25.41 | mitch0 | best would be if I could tell SharedMedia to merge the two |
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| 14:56.11 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2401 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix the Illidari council issues |
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| 15:08.56 | Ackis | ping nevcairiel |
| 15:09.35 | Ackis | you removed Illidari Council as a duplicate however I can't find the duplicate entry? |
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| 15:31.05 | kadrahil | Ackis: because it's not there anymore, DUH |
| 15:31.29 | Ackis | that wasn't my question |
| 15:31.35 | Ackis | he deleted it stating duplicate entry |
| 15:31.38 | kadrahil | i know it was just a fail troll :( |
| 15:31.47 | Ackis | :P |
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| 15:39.20 | stolenlegacy | Ackis: he's following your principle |
| 15:39.39 | stolenlegacy | <sb|work> buggy releases, buggy betas, buggy everything |
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| 15:40.20 | Ackis | my releases aren't buggy |
| 15:40.39 | pentium166 | working as intended! |
| 15:41.52 | Stanzilla | Ackis: you mean torhal's releases? :P |
| 15:42.15 | Ackis | he doesn't tag :P |
| 15:43.50 | Ackis | https://www.ohloh.net/p/ackisrecipelist/contributors and https://www.ohloh.net/p/collectinator/contributors oh snap! |
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| 15:45.48 | Ackis | Torhal: I downloaded about 10 gigs of torrents that one night |
| 15:45.56 | Stanzilla | Ackis: are you pissed again because I said that? :P |
| 15:46.04 | Ackis | apparently I can stream them from my computer to my xbox |
| 15:46.23 | kadrahil | streams Fisker to /dev/null |
| 15:46.34 | Ackis | Stanzilla: nah I know that Torhal has been doing a lot of work along with pompy |
| 15:47.26 | Torhal | Ackis: Niiice |
| 15:47.33 | Torhal | Ackis: RSS working well for you? |
| 15:47.42 | Ackis | haven't set up the RSS yet |
| 15:47.45 | Torhal | Ah |
| 15:47.50 | Ackis | I have to figure out a decent throttle for seeding however |
| 15:48.13 | Torhal | Use the speed guide. It's usually pretty accurate |
| 15:48.52 | Ackis | speed guide? |
| 15:49.22 | Torhal | It's in one of the menus in uTorrent. I haven't used Windows in a long-ass time so I can't actually tell you where it is. |
| 15:49.58 | Torhal | But based on your up/down speeds it suggests connection counts, seed counts, and maximum up/down speeds |
| 15:50.17 | Ackis | ah |
| 15:50.25 | Ackis | yah I used that and it said I can support 800 connections |
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| 15:54.28 | Torhal | Ackis: Can I slap you now? Number of commits is as awesome a metric as lines of code :P |
| 15:55.35 | Ackis | :P |
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| 16:00.38 | dylandog | hi :) |
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| 16:01.40 | dylandog | is there a way i can render the 3D pet like into the pet frame? |
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| 16:03.13 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r248 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
| 16:03.15 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
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| 16:10.31 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-113-gdc5c4b7 Collectinator.toc: [+1 commit] Version to Beta 1 |
| 16:11.07 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 04Beta1 * 976be3d /: [new tag] Tagging as Beta 1 |
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| 16:20.29 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Beta1-1-g390f9ef Docs/Main.txt: [+1 commit] Update main page. |
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| 16:43.55 | Belazor | seems nevcairiel broke babble-boss, Illidari Council is not found now |
| 16:44.14 | nevcairiel | the name is "The Illidari Council" :P |
| 16:44.21 | Belazor | orly |
| 16:44.28 | nevcairiel | but it should still be there |
| 16:44.31 | nevcairiel | just update again |
| 16:44.34 | Belazor | LibBabble-3.0-2:51: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: Translation "Illidari Council" not found. |
| 16:44.42 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:44.58 | Belazor | its daviesh not pushing an atlasloot update Im guessing |
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| 16:45.12 | Belazor | not that it matters as I dont actually need to look at BT loot at this point :p |
| 16:45.26 | Ackis | Belazor: he updated it earlier today |
| 16:45.39 | Belazor | ye but didnt tag it |
| 16:45.41 | Ackis | nevcairiel: was wondering what the duplicate was |
| 16:45.45 | Belazor | and it doesnt package on alpha |
| 17:00.19 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Beta1-3-gf27828a / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 17:00.20 | Repo | f27828a: Clean up some comments. |
| 17:00.21 | Repo | 43661a9: Add a crafted flag to the sea turtle, this will let you actually have it show up in the listing. |
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| 17:04.12 | Balreign | hi all |
| 17:04.48 | Balreign | is there an addon that do not use dewdrop but has a dropdown menu working with LibDataBroker ? |
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| 17:42.34 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx * r1236 / (26 files in 4 directories): |
| 17:42.36 | Repo | - Removed FuBarPlugin support (LibDataBroker support coming in next commit) |
| 17:42.37 | Repo | - Moved localizations into their own folder |
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| 17:47.55 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx * r1237 GridLDB.lua: - Added LibDataBroker support |
| 17:55.50 | Gnarfoz | boo @ phans |
| 17:55.51 | Gnarfoz | boo @ phanx |
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| 18:01.26 | CrazyBenny_ | Balreign: check blizzards EasyMenu, if you dont need anything advanced |
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| 18:03.11 | Balreign | Thanks CrazyBenny_ I'll have a look |
| 18:03.56 | Torhal | Balreign: EasyMenu is evil. Use this guide, instead: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15763 |
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| 18:08.01 | krampe | hi |
| 18:08.16 | krampe | is there still that wowaceupdater program out there? |
| 18:08.29 | krampe | cant find it on wowace.com |
| 18:08.36 | CrazyBenny_ | krampe: yep, it's called curse client |
| 18:09.13 | krampe | oh ok thanks |
| 18:09.25 | NeoTron | Torhal: EasyMeny, EvilMenu - what's the difference? |
| 18:09.39 | Groktar | i hate web forms that automatically move to the next field when entering phone numbers and such |
| 18:09.54 | Groktar | and then spaz when you try to shift+tab back |
| 18:10.06 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: why boo :P |
| 18:10.38 | Groktar | blames Stanzilla |
| 18:10.46 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: because! (also, I guess I should try mitch0's display, bazooka?) |
| 18:11.04 | Stanzilla | yes you should |
| 18:11.24 | Groktar | and i wish the tab name complete in mirc would prioritize the most recently active names |
| 18:11.34 | Torhal | NeoTron: Depends on your intentions. :D |
| 18:11.49 | Groktar | i hit s and then tab |
| 18:11.52 | Groktar | ended up tabbing forever |
| 18:12.05 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: because so far, I concurred with his observation that no display could really replicate fubar ;> |
| 18:14.51 | Torhal | It's impossible because LDB plugins themselves have right-click operations. |
| 18:19.53 | Balreign | thanks Torhal |
| 18:20.44 | Torhal | Balreign: np |
| 18:21.31 | Shadowed | Why would you want to replicate FuBar |
| 18:23.51 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: bazooka does a good job |
| 18:25.22 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: guess why it had the userbase it had. |
| 18:25.30 | Shadowed | Do you really want me to answer that |
| 18:25.45 | Gnarfoz | actually, has would probably be the better term since LDB is just this dream of some idealists that'll never really catch on :P |
| 18:26.30 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Put the crack pipe down. |
| 18:26.41 | Gnarfoz | you first :> |
| 18:27.43 | Gnarfoz | keeps amazing me how authors can blind themselves that much about the fact that users simply don't care about "but this is the *better* solution" when the popular solution works and doesn't have drawbacks they understand |
| 18:28.04 | Shadowed | Not really blind |
| 18:28.19 | Shadowed | Listening to users blindly generally works out poorly |
| 18:29.01 | Torhal | Shadowed: Hey, SUF doesn't support right-click Focus target. plz gief fix nao. |
| 18:29.05 | Torhal | Shadowed: You mean like that? :) |
| 18:29.09 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: to be fair, fubar had the userbase it had because there was nothing else :P |
| 18:29.13 | Shadowed | No I meant when it comes to feature requests :p |
| 18:29.19 | Shadowed | NeoTron: There was, it was just god awful |
| 18:29.25 | Torhal | Shadowed: Which are generally of that qualitry. |
| 18:29.29 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: and it still has it for the same reason :> |
| 18:29.29 | Shadowed | pretty much |
| 18:29.30 | Torhal | s/ry/y/ |
| 18:29.46 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: also, it had it because of "OMG it's ACE'd!" vs. TitanPanel |
| 18:29.47 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 18:29.58 | Shadowed | yea |
| 18:30.08 | Shadowed | I wouldn't really say FuBar was popular because it was an amazing thing |
| 18:30.12 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: FuBar also didn't have a massive memory leak :P |
| 18:30.17 | NeoTron | Shadowed: I don't count titan panel as an alternative becaus when most people changed to fubar, titan either didn't work (major wow upgrade) or performed horribly |
| 18:30.25 | NeoTron | I know it's better now but it was complete crap |
| 18:30.29 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: I'm perfectly aware |
| 18:30.49 | Shadowed | FuBar was popular cause it could do everything, and it was better (in comparison) to Titan Panel |
| 18:30.53 | Shadowed | was/is |
| 18:31.16 | Gnarfoz | +wide availability of plugins, of course |
| 18:31.31 | Shadowed | Right, and it was popular for people to do plugins cause it could do everything |
| 18:32.26 | NeoTron | it was popular for plugins because it was widely in use |
| 18:33.10 | Shadowed | But off topic anyway, users are really not that picky when it comes to addons, they'll pretty much use whatever suits there needs. It's just the addons that tend to let them do everything suits there needs until a better designed one that does it simpler comes along |
| 18:33.33 | Shadowed | and then you get to wait a year or two while people start to adapt and suggest it instead of the old ones |
| 18:33.41 | NeoTron | and I know for example ButtonBin doesn't "clone" fubar but you know what? I wrote it for me and it works for me so I'm good |
| 18:33.51 | Gnarfoz | of course, NeoTron |
| 18:33.53 | Torhal | Then there is the trend of "OMG MOAR FLUFF NOM NOM!" |
| 18:34.21 | Shadowed | You mean the, I'll add every feature to make every user happy tend Torhal? :p |
| 18:34.29 | Torhal | Aye |
| 18:34.34 | NeoTron | I think for the most part you can replicate fuba with button bin and the default is pretty close. Although it's of course different ant potentially harder to set up |
| 18:34.42 | Gnarfoz | all I'm saying is: the (rather small) technical and philosophical advantage that LDB has over LFBP is nothing like the advantage FuBar had over TP back in the day, also, both kinds of advantage really don't mean much to users, so they'll probably stick to what they know |
| 18:35.10 | NeoTron | LDB is primarily an advantage to the developers |
| 18:35.17 | Torhal | I had a guy on #wowuidev basically WTF me for suggesting Mapster/HandyNotes/Cromulent over Cartographer because it's three AddOns replacing one. |
| 18:35.18 | Gnarfoz | I'm aware |
| 18:35.27 | Gnarfoz | (wtf is Cromulent?) |
| 18:35.36 | NeoTron | ~describe cromulent |
| 18:35.38 | Shadowed | LDB will never become popular if the attitude is "FuBar already does it, why bother" |
| 18:35.49 | NeoTron | @describe cromulent |
| 18:35.49 | Torhal | It's the Cartographer map info overlay (fishing levels, etc) |
| 18:35.49 | Repo | NeoTron: http://www.wowace.com/addons/cromulent/. Cromulent. Shows ZoneInfo on the World Map in a perfectly cromulent fashion. |
| 18:35.51 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: quite to the point, yes |
| 18:35.51 | NeoTron | wrong bot |
| 18:36.03 | Shadowed | From what I've seen, LDB does probably 95% of what FuBar does |
| 18:36.11 | NeoTron | has anyone tried to make fubar handle, natively, LDB? |
| 18:36.12 | Shadowed | and the other 5% is generally obscure stupid stuff that very few people care about |
| 18:36.30 | NeoTron | or is there no point? i can see it being not doable perfectly too due to the whole menu issue |
| 18:36.34 | Torhal | NeoTron: There isn't a point - FuBar is still using Rock |
| 18:36.43 | NeoTron | Torhal: but people still use fubar no? |
| 18:36.50 | Gnarfoz | of what LFBP does, maybe, it's the displays that really don't come close... well, bazooka explicitly has the goal of replicating Fubar as close as possible |
| 18:36.56 | Torhal | Only because it keeps getting band-aided. |
| 18:37.02 | NeoTron | the point would be to display LDB blocks in fubar without an extra addon :P |
| 18:37.16 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: no, because it still does what it does best, AND it's getting band-aided :P |
| 18:37.16 | Shadowed | Oh and FuBar uses Rock too |
| 18:37.23 | kenlyric | pretty sure there was an ldb display designed specifically to look just like fubar |
| 18:37.24 | Shadowed | which in itself is a good reason not to use FuBar |
| 18:37.32 | Gnarfoz | kenlyric: indeed, I even named it just now ;) |
| 18:37.35 | Shadowed | s/good/amazingly great/ |
| 18:37.39 | kenlyric | well I'll be |
| 18:37.52 | NeoTron | in fact rock was the reason I moved to making my own ldb display to repalce fubar |
| 18:38.06 | NeoTron | I didn't like the "block" displayers since they were a pain to configure |
| 18:38.13 | Gnarfoz | haters gotta hate, as they say <3 |
| 18:38.19 | NeoTron | and fubar was my only rock addon and I didn't want that overhead just for fubar |
| 18:38.37 | Shadowed | There are only two real Rock addons in circulation last I looked? |
| 18:38.37 | Shadowed | Cart and FuBar |
| 18:38.38 | Gnarfoz | anyway, someone gutting Rock out of Fubar and making it a native LDB display is probably happen at about the time wow 6.0 comes out |
| 18:38.46 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: pb3 |
| 18:38.53 | Shadowed | ah right and PB3 |
| 18:38.54 | Gnarfoz | *cough* |
| 18:38.58 | kenlyric | nobody uses that |
| 18:39.03 | Thaoky | talking about Cart, is there a decent alternative out there ? |
| 18:39.03 | Shadowed | quite a lot of people still use PB3 |
| 18:39.05 | NeoTron | basically though, there is unlikely to be a LDB display as popular as fubar was |
| 18:39.20 | NeoTron | mainly because everyone doesn' want or need the same thing and there are many options for pople to use |
| 18:39.25 | NeoTron | which isn't a bad thing either |
| 18:39.25 | kenlyric | good job shadowed, torpedo my SUF sales attempt |
| 18:39.43 | Shadowed | Advertising SUF doesn't do much :p |
| 18:40.23 | kenlyric | even if I switch to an ldb display I still need fubar2ldb |
| 18:40.25 | Stanzilla | Thaoky: mapster? |
| 18:40.33 | kenlyric | unless someone made a trainerfu replacement that works in the past 3 months |
| 18:40.43 | Shadowed | FuBar is evil and should die |
| 18:40.49 | Shadowed | is the moral of the story |
| 18:40.56 | Thaoky | Stanzilla: thanks, I'll give it a try |
| 18:41.00 | Torhal | Thaoky: Mapster/HandyNotes/Cromulent <-- combo which replaces Cart2 |
| 18:41.12 | Thaoky | ty |
| 18:41.25 | Torhal | Thaoky: What happened to using SVN for Altoholic, BTW? |
| 18:41.39 | CrazyBenny_ | there are still fubar addons that dotn have better or equal alternative as ldb, so yeah...:P |
| 18:41.47 | Torhal | CrazyBenny_: Which? |
| 18:41.52 | Thaoky | Torhal: what do you mean ? |
| 18:42.17 | NeoTron | I need to make an LDB display for Magic Marker one of these days |
| 18:42.18 | CrazyBenny_ | Torhal: WhisperFu, dont liek any of the alternatives to GuildFu/FriendsFu/QuestFu either |
| 18:42.22 | Torhal | Thaoky: I approved the latest file update on CurseForge, which means you're uploading a zip instead of using the packager |
| 18:42.49 | Torhal | CrazyBenny_: Eh, that's why Fubar2Broker exists. |
| 18:43.11 | Thaoky | Torhal: I use SVN for interim releases, but due to DataStore, I make the public beta/release packages manually |
| 18:43.36 | Torhal | Aah |
| 18:43.50 | Shadowed | @project DataStore |
| 18:43.51 | Repo | Shadowed: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/datastore/. DataStore. Game: WoW. Thaoky (Manager/Author). Updated: 10 hours ago. Tickets: 2/2 |
| 18:44.11 | SunTsu | @describe DataStore |
| 18:44.12 | Repo | SunTsu: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/datastore/. DataStore. Main DataStore Module |
| 18:44.28 | Thaoky | that should change in the future, Mikk suggested me a good way to turn DataStore into pure libs, that could be embedded rather than the current way I package things |
| 18:44.31 | CrazyBenny_ | Torhal: oh well, I dont mind using both fubar and ldb display, but yeha, just wanted to say a reason why you still have to count the fubar...and some people will use it just for sake of it, until there is no way to fix it |
| 18:44.38 | Shadowed | er |
| 18:46.27 | Mikk | Maybe FuBar should have an accident in 3.3 |
| 18:46.39 | nevcairiel | meh, lets just do it for 4.0 |
| 18:46.49 | nevcairiel | people expect more accidents there |
| 18:47.04 | Mikk | true enough |
| 18:47.33 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:47.37 | Mikk | Like.. accidentally having the FuBar2Broker sources copied into it |
| 18:47.42 | Mikk | Or so |
| 18:47.44 | Fisker | i make accidents happen |
| 18:47.44 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 18:48.17 | Thaoky | do you think users will be the "omg we have no backup :O" official statement ? :) |
| 18:48.24 | Thaoky | *will buy |
| 18:48.29 | nevcairiel | it happend before |
| 18:48.36 | nevcairiel | *someone* managed to delete the wiki |
| 18:48.45 | nevcairiel | looks around |
| 18:49.55 | Shadowed | Too bad 3.3 didn't have any real major API changes |
| 18:50.01 | Shadowed | could accidentally break it then easily |
| 18:52.06 | Torhal | I suggested locking the repo so there would be no band-aids. |
| 18:52.09 | Torhal | shrugs. |
| 18:52.12 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy * r694 / (3 files in 1 directory): Removing advanced features |
| 18:52.15 | Repo | Download sRaidFrames_Advanced if you want those |
| 18:52.15 | nevcairiel | didnt we even do that? |
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| 18:52.53 | Torhal | No. Cartographer2 is locked |
| 18:52.54 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sraidframes-advanced/. sRaidFrames Advanced. stolenlegacy (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 18:52.55 | Torhal | FuBar is open |
| 18:53.48 | Pneumatus | band aids are ok as long as they aren't written by a complete spaz |
| 18:54.22 | pentium166 | one day discord unit frames will work again!! |
| 18:54.33 | nevcairiel | if some patch completly breaks it (which i doubt), we'll keep it broken unless ck wants to fix it himself :P |
| 18:54.57 | nevcairiel | sadly it didnt really require much maintenance |
| 18:55.17 | Pneumatus | jostle got broken in 3.0 but that was about it, iirc |
| 18:55.23 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy * r695 textures/indicator.tga: Got rid of a leftover file |
| 18:55.28 | Pneumatus | due to the vehicle animation dickery |
| 18:57.12 | Torhal | And then Shefki fixed it and band-aided FuBar again, then tagged a new release. |
| 18:57.15 | Torhal | cries. |
| 18:59.11 | Ackis | feeds off of Torhal's tears. |
| 18:59.21 | pompy | ~lart Ackis |
| 18:59.21 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides Ackis with the sea of tranquility |
| 18:59.25 | robotusch | You evil you D: |
| 18:59.38 | Pneumatus | Ackis feeds off of keys that he logs! |
| 18:59.59 | Ackis | no QH is teh key logger! |
| 19:00.03 | Ackis | same with carboncrap |
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| 19:01.07 | Pneumatus | only because you inject the keyloggers for your own devices! |
| 19:01.30 | Ackis | i'll inject something into you if you keep it up! hah |
| 19:02.22 | Pneumatus | (a key logger, i bet) |
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| 19:03.38 | Repo | 10sraidframes-advanced: 03stolenlegacy * r2 / (16 files in 2 directories): Initial commit |
| 19:03.43 | Repo | - Custom layouts |
| 19:03.45 | Repo | - Buff filtering combat/no combat |
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| 19:12.56 | Aeyan | CrazyBenny_: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11205-Ara_Broker_Guild_Friends.html |
| 19:12.58 | Aeyan | Tried that? |
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| 19:24.28 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy * r696 sRaidFrames.lua: Fixed the obligatory typo that slipped through |
| 19:24.44 | pschriner | I'm still using auldLangSyneFu ... working like a charm |
| 19:25.14 | Repo | 10sraidframes-advanced: 03stolenlegacy * r3 sRaidFrames_Advanced.lua: |
| 19:25.16 | Repo | PredictedHealth is now also part of sRaidFrames_Advanced and no longer mainline |
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| 19:32.28 | CrazyBenny_ | Aeyan: Thanks, looks very promising |
| 19:34.34 | NeoTron | Ackis: oce 3.3 comes out the in-game quest tracking will be the new key logger |
| 19:34.46 | NeoTron | no longer do you need to download and install it, it's built in! |
| 19:35.01 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:35.12 | nevcairiel | I wonder how many users QH will lose from that |
| 19:35.31 | NeoTron | depends |
| 19:35.45 | NeoTron | I suspect QH could do what it does without having to have all the data and manual updates |
| 19:35.54 | NeoTron | i.e routing the "shortest route" between available quests |
| 19:36.08 | NeoTron | it still adds value and should be easier to maintain and much less resource hungry |
| 19:36.12 | NeoTron | in theory |
| 19:36.13 | nevcairiel | thats not much of an big addon anymore then |
| 19:36.39 | NeoTron | for sure |
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| 19:37.04 | NeoTron | and someone could much more easily design a routing addon based on the Blizzard data |
| 19:38.51 | Ackis | it's like routes for quests then |
| 19:41.43 | NeoTron | right |
| 19:45.04 | nevcairiel | Ackis: you're so mean in tickets =( |
| 19:45.17 | Ackis | I was grumpy this morning |
| 19:45.28 | Ackis | and I had just dealt with 12 bazillion QH tickets on CF |
| 19:45.50 | nevcairiel | and you didnt even select the duplicate option :P |
| 19:46.05 | Ackis | i was Fisker raging! |
| 19:52.20 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:52.23 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 19:52.28 | Fisker | Console slut |
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| 19:53.14 | Ackis | mw2 boy |
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| 20:07.34 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
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| 20:10.22 | Fisker | destroys Ackis |
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| 20:12.28 | Ackis | laughs at fisker as he plays MW2 |
| 20:13.22 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:13.39 | Ackis | so Fisker enjoying the dedicated servers and 16 v 16 MP? |
| 20:13.42 | Ackis | oh... wait |
| 20:13.43 | Ackis | hahahah |
| 20:14.27 | nicoli_d | i need to buy a new xbox so i can try out the cod mp |
| 20:15.32 | Ackis | they just banned a bazillion xboxs apparently |
| 20:16.37 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:16.57 | kadrahil | make this database import go faster please |
| 20:17.20 | Fisker | slaps kadrahil around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:17.22 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:18.28 | pentium166 | Ackis: you are a bad person |
| 20:18.44 | Ackis | me? |
| 20:18.48 | pentium166 | you |
| 20:18.51 | Ackis | :( |
| 20:22.11 | Gnarfoz | ahaha |
| 20:22.23 | Gnarfoz | updated *one* addon, Grid |
| 20:22.26 | Gnarfoz | guess what broke? |
| 20:22.28 | Gnarfoz | everything! :D |
| 20:22.32 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:22.36 | kadrahil | :D |
| 20:22.37 | Gnarfoz | thanks Phanx for migrating to LDB! ^^ |
| 20:22.51 | kadrahil | thanks Phanx |
| 20:23.40 | Stanzilla | that's what you get for not restarting your client :o |
| 20:24.02 | Gnarfoz | uhm Stanzilla |
| 20:24.10 | Gnarfoz | I updated while wow was closed. |
| 20:24.14 | Gnarfoz | who the hell updates with their client running |
| 20:24.19 | Gnarfoz | >_< |
| 20:24.32 | Gnarfoz | (also: does curse client even allow that) |
| 20:24.32 | Stanzilla | <- |
| 20:24.42 | Shadowed | You mean |
| 20:24.46 | Shadowed | you updated to an alpha version |
| 20:24.49 | Shadowed | and it wasn't 100% working? :p |
| 20:24.59 | Gnarfoz | of course I did, and I reacted in the usual fashion :p |
| 20:25.16 | Stanzilla | what's broken? |
| 20:25.23 | Gnarfoz | probably forgot to include something, not sure |
| 20:25.54 | Gnarfoz | http://paste.wowace.com/1425/ < that's just one of 24 errors :D |
| 20:26.57 | Stanzilla | works for me :( |
| 20:27.24 | Gnarfoz | well :< |
| 20:27.46 | Shadowed | huh |
| 20:27.58 | Shadowed | That's an awesome error |
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| 20:29.01 | Gnarfoz | my guess: |
| 20:29.07 | Gnarfoz | GridStatusRaidDebuffs. |
| 20:30.08 | Gnarfoz | that has had broken option tables for a long time, preventing opening the fubar-plugin's context menu :P |
| 20:30.32 | Adremma | There's a fix in a clone I'm trying to get people to test |
| 20:30.42 | Adremma | http://www.wowace.com/addons/grid-status-raid-debuff/repositories/menufix/files/2-r245/ |
| 20:31.01 | Gnarfoz | http://paste.wowace.com/1426/ :O full crapola |
| 20:31.04 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:31.18 | Gnarfoz | well Adremma wtf! this needs to be in mainline asap if it works :P |
| 20:31.45 | Adremma | I really don't want to take over the project, it sounds like a lot of work especially with 3.3 coming out :p |
| 20:32.09 | Adremma | will if I have to, I guess |
| 20:32.28 | Gnarfoz | well, no, too bad, disabling GSRD didn't change it |
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| 20:34.03 | Gnarfoz | well, disabling Grid at least fixed it :P |
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| 20:41.13 | Gnarfoz | ...she changed libs to Libs |
| 20:41.24 | Gnarfoz | which breaks my svn client o_O |
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| 20:41.29 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 20:41.43 | Gnarfoz | an unversioned directory of the same name already exists |
| 20:42.07 | Gnarfoz | wonder if maybe the packager... :p |
| 20:42.32 | Gnarfoz | actually, the zip looks fine ;\ |
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| 20:43.58 | Stanzilla | fail |
| 20:44.15 | nevcairiel | teh packager is on linux, it correctly supports case sensitive dirs |
| 20:44.36 | nevcairiel | it just starts crying when you have a libs and a Libs dir in the same zip |
| 20:44.45 | nevcairiel | well, windows starts crying on unpack, then |
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| 20:46.33 | Gnarfoz | ntfs supports case sensitive, too, if you want it to :\ |
| 20:46.48 | Gnarfoz | however, since the packager is on linux, the zip should only contain one dir |
| 20:47.10 | nevcairiel | if you mis libs and Libs in .pkgmeta it will break it .D |
| 20:47.16 | nevcairiel | s/mis/mix/ |
| 20:52.34 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r312 / (4 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus: |
| 20:52.36 | Repo | - Updated to use LOCALIZED_CLASS_NAMES_MALE instead of custom translations. |
| 20:53.54 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: sounds awesomely craptastic |
| 20:54.56 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03sztanpet * r160 LibFail-1.0.lua: |
| 20:54.58 | Repo | tweak fel_inferno the same way we tweaked hellfire, lets see if it makes a difference or not |
| 20:56.51 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 20:56.55 | Gnarfoz | what is with wowace.com |
| 20:56.59 | MysticalOS | yoshimo, the last algalon pull change worked :) |
| 20:57.15 | Gnarfoz | it shows "Development URL svn://adremma@svn.wowace.com/wow/grid/mainline/trunk" |
| 20:57.22 | Gnarfoz | how can that be right? |
| 20:57.32 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: If you want to commit. |
| 20:57.41 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: huh? |
| 20:57.44 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03sztanpet * r161 LibFail-1.0.lua: |
| 20:57.45 | Adremma | But it probably shouldn't be adremma@ |
| 20:57.45 | Repo | fail instantly on death for hellfire and fellinferno, and tweak the time it takes to fail for hellfire, lets see if its too much or not |
| 20:57.50 | Adremma | 'cause, uh, that's me, not him |
| 20:57.54 | Torhal | Oh |
| 20:58.01 | Torhal | Then, that's a WTF, certainly. |
| 20:58.52 | nevcairiel | its a caching issue |
| 20:58.57 | nevcairiel | i told ckk about that already |
| 20:59.02 | nevcairiel | apparently it wasnt fixed |
| 20:59.16 | Torhal | nevcairiel: ckk doesn't work on the web page anymore |
| 20:59.26 | nevcairiel | i know, but when i told him he still did :P |
| 20:59.31 | Torhal | Heh |
| 20:59.50 | Gnarfoz | heheh |
| 21:00.54 | Adremma | Of course, the real answer is to use the svn+ssh url instead ;) |
| 21:01.21 | Gnarfoz | obvious, I was just confused when I saw your username there |
| 21:01.36 | nevcairiel | svn+ssh is just slow |
| 21:01.43 | nevcairiel | wtb https webdav access |
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| 21:02.15 | Adremma | I prefer to think of it as "sanity break time" |
| 21:02.26 | Gnarfoz | not slower than just ssh for me :\ |
| 21:02.44 | nevcairiel | good that i mostly dont use svn anymore |
| 21:03.18 | Gnarfoz | tell me again |
| 21:03.33 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: try fetching the log of a repo with svn+ssh and just plain svn .. its so much slower |
| 21:03.37 | Gnarfoz | what happens when you <Include> a .lua file in an (embeds).xml file? |
| 21:03.47 | Gnarfoz | pain? :> |
| 21:03.48 | nevcairiel | you get a syntax error |
| 21:04.02 | nevcairiel | or maybe not |
| 21:04.06 | Gnarfoz | well, apparently not |
| 21:04.10 | nevcairiel | probably just an error in FrameXML.log |
| 21:04.21 | nevcairiel | if you <script> for a xml file, you get a script error |
| 21:04.30 | Primer | Does Pitbull not have the ability to sort by main tank role? |
| 21:04.34 | Gnarfoz | hey, I reduced the number of errors on load by 2! |
| 21:04.37 | Gnarfoz | still 20 errors :X |
| 21:04.47 | Primer | Make those first, then sort by some other criterion? |
| 21:05.09 | Gnarfoz | [2009/11/16 22:04:16-8242-x1]: XLoot-0.9\XLoot.lua:4: AceAddon-2.0: AceOO-2.0: Classes can only inherit from one or zero classes and any number of mixins or interfaces |
| 21:05.16 | Gnarfoz | arrrgh why is this breaking Ace2 :P |
| 21:05.18 | nevcairiel | how did you break Ace2? :P |
| 21:05.24 | Gnarfoz | I didn't, Phanx did! |
| 21:07.11 | Stanzilla | use PhatLoots instead |
| 21:07.13 | Stanzilla | fixed! |
| 21:07.37 | Gnarfoz | hum? |
| 21:07.43 | Gnarfoz | no time for trolling, stan |
| 21:07.48 | Gnarfoz | this is not about xloot :P |
| 21:07.49 | Stanzilla | that ace3 xloot thing ag did |
| 21:08.04 | Gnarfoz | and no, I'm not gonna use ag's rip of tekkub's loot thingy |
| 21:08.16 | Gnarfoz | both of which are half-done and unsupported :P |
| 21:08.37 | Gnarfoz | I'd sooner use MagicLooter because I run MagicDKP anyway :\ |
| 21:08.40 | Stanzilla | it works fine :( |
| 21:08.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah and does 1/8 of what XLoot did :X |
| 21:09.12 | Gnarfoz | anyway, grab a magnifying glass and help me find the needle in this haystack |
| 21:10.34 | tekkub | teksloot is complete and always has been :P |
| 21:10.45 | Gnarfoz | of course it is |
| 21:10.56 | Gnarfoz | that's kind of my point, it's just an XLootGroup replacement :P |
| 21:12.57 | Gnarfoz | fun |
| 21:12.57 | Gnarfoz | [2009/11/16 22:11:31-8243-x1]: <table: 11DB8C68 instance>: AceConsole: args.donate: "OpenDonationFrame" is not a proper function: |
| 21:13.01 | Gnarfoz | <in C code>: ? |
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| 21:17.45 | Gnarfoz | did the upgrade path break at any point after the curse-ace merger? |
| 21:19.44 | Pneumatus | that got stripped out with the ui policy changes iirc |
| 21:19.59 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 21:20.07 | Pneumatus | the DonationFrame stuff |
| 21:20.09 | Gnarfoz | oh, the DonationFrame thing, yes, |
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| 21:20.26 | Gnarfoz | and no it should be an empty function because removing it broke stuff |
| 21:20.34 | Gnarfoz | or whatever, anyway, that's not the point |
| 21:20.43 | Pneumatus | tekkub, i guess teksloot will be updated for the DE option for 3.3? |
| 21:20.56 | tekkub | yea I just need to poke at it |
| 21:23.20 | Gnarfoz | so, my trusty debug char "Testgnom" says: it's probably AnchorsAway at fault, whyever the hell that only came to light with the latest Grid commit, I don't know |
| 21:23.39 | Gnarfoz | http://paste.wowace.com/1427/ |
| 21:23.51 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03sztanpet * r162 LibFail-1.0.lua: |
| 21:23.52 | Repo | fuck the valkyr orbs, fuck you guys too who need the verbosity |
| 21:24.11 | Gnarfoz | ahaha from FrameXML.log |
| 21:24.12 | Gnarfoz | 11/16 22:22:15.625 error in error handling |
| 21:24.21 | Gnarfoz | awesome |
| 21:26.11 | Torhal | sztanpet: That was totally an Ackis commit. |
| 21:26.34 | sztanpet | heheh |
| 21:26.47 | yoshimo | you forgot "120% drycoded" |
| 21:27.06 | sztanpet | a hope i cant fuck up an overkill > 0 check :D |
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| 21:34.52 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:38.34 | MysticalOS | you really saw a lot of spam? when my guild does twins on heroic you might maybe see a healer accidentally grab wrong color from time to time but otherwise the soakers do their job |
| 21:38.36 | MysticalOS | :\ |
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| 21:39.12 | sztanpet | thats enough spam right there |
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| 21:39.47 | MysticalOS | we just use 4 soakers in pvp/stam gear each taking a quadrant and eating wrong color orbs and letting rest go to raid, we all stay same color the whole fight, even for both shields, just hero the oposing color |
| 21:39.50 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: If you find out what caused that could you please let me know? |
| 21:39.55 | sztanpet | we use 3 |
| 21:40.05 | Shirik | I would be interested in poking it further |
| 21:40.07 | sztanpet | but the same |
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| 21:40.13 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: I have no clue, and I'm totally not qualified to find out, really ^^ |
| 21:40.17 | Shirik | ha |
| 21:40.22 | Shirik | well how are you getting it? |
| 21:40.29 | MysticalOS | we also bubble sac through vortex so I usually turn that fial off, now that is sp am |
| 21:40.30 | Gnarfoz | latest grid + xloot |
| 21:40.31 | MysticalOS | heh |
| 21:40.32 | Shirik | it's just there caused by some mess of addons you have? |
| 21:40.35 | MysticalOS | fail* |
| 21:40.35 | Shirik | ok I'll take a look ty |
| 21:40.46 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6806 Coliseum/ValkyrTwins.lua: Fix berserk timer and shield remaining message. |
| 21:41.00 | Gnarfoz | I reduced the mess to 2 addons to check it out further |
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| 21:49.07 | winkiller | lol |
| 21:49.08 | winkiller | http://www.mrgl-mrgl.com/ |
| 21:49.13 | winkiller | ddos by wow.com :P |
| 21:56.07 | Gnarfoz | wtf is that, winkiller |
| 21:56.22 | winkiller | a "wow search engine" |
| 21:56.42 | yoshimo | beta though, and already /.ed ;) |
| 21:58.03 | Ackis | Torhal: what was my commit? |
| 21:59.06 | nicoli_s | what does a wow search engine do? just search other sites' search forms? |
| 22:00.05 | kadrahil | it's just another way to google |
| 22:00.08 | kadrahil | like bing |
| 22:00.15 | kadrahil | :D |
| 22:01.13 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: any idea? :D |
| 22:01.25 | Shirik | haven't had a chance to look at it |
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| 22:09.56 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1117 DrDamage.lua: - Fix for Gift of the Naaru coefficient? |
| 22:14.27 | Shirik | I like the ? at the end |
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| 22:18.28 | Pneumatus | thats the best part |
| 22:18.57 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1118 Data/Hunter.lua: - Volley AP coefficient fix? |
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| 22:22.56 | Repo | 10lootbidadmin (experimental): 03Saliik * r8 LootBidAdmin.lua: WORK: |
| 22:22.58 | Repo | Store join/leave time when members join the raid. Will be used for exporting. |
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| 22:41.26 | Gagorian | Shirik Pneumatus: Well not having an account causes certain problems :D |
| 22:45.08 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03yoshimo * r6807 Ulduar/Algalon.lua: Fix timers on first pull |
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| 23:06.06 | Repo | 10grid: 03Sayclub * r1238 Locales/GridLocale-koKR.lua: koKR update |
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| 23:12.19 | Amadeo | what are people using for damage meters these days? |
| 23:13.05 | profalbert | skada |
| 23:13.19 | profalbert | but most people seem to use recount |
| 23:13.21 | SunTsu | Amadeo: recount or skada |
| 23:13.27 | Amadeo | Skada sounds new |
| 23:13.29 | Amadeo | never heard of it |
| 23:13.39 | SunTsu | Amadeo: I like it |
| 23:13.41 | Amadeo | any pros/cons of them? |
| 23:14.11 | profalbert | does recount still require shitloads of memory after hours of raiding? |
| 23:14.52 | SunTsu | Don't know, not raiding for half a year or so |
| 23:15.34 | yoshimo | profalbert , you can reduce it , if you set it to only keep bossegments |
| 23:15.35 | SunTsu | Amadeo: Just try it, you could install both and decide which one you like the most |
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| 23:15.56 | profalbert | yoshimo: yeah, skada can do that too ;) |
| 23:15.58 | Amadeo | well, Skada advertises as being efficient |
| 23:16.01 | Amadeo | so I'm doing that one :P |
| 23:16.53 | yoshimo | well i have worldoflogs, which is even more efficient during raids , but that might not be the right solution for you |
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| 23:21.29 | NivFreak | I fall back to WoL pretty heavily now days |
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| 23:29.39 | Belazor | profalbert: it required about 4mb when idle and not collecting |
| 23:29.44 | Belazor | requires* |
| 23:30.00 | Belazor | recount, that is |
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| 23:56.45 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r389 / (6 files in 2 directories): alpha v4 commit |
| 23:56.46 | Repo | +LoadOnDemand GUI with /badboy (My first GUI without using ace /cheer, yeah it's actually only 1kb but not everyone wants the feature so it's a separate addon) |
| 23:56.47 | Repo | +Anti macro feature, multiple-to-single repeated line consolidation |
