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00:11.14Ingelahey can anyone please help me with outlines? Like normal, thin, thick? it's for texts
00:11.49Ingelalike, where can i find the code and exmaples maybe
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00:18.33Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r163 / (2 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0:
00:18.34Repo- Data update
00:21.10Repo10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander 045.0.189-beta * r191 : Tagging as 5.0.189-beta
00:21.14Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 043.0.181-beta * r182 : Tagging as 3.0.181-beta
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00:29.11BelazorIngela: XPBarNone has outline I think
00:29.26IngelaBelazor thanks i'll look into that one
00:29.31Belazor^^
00:29.43mitch0chuckles
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00:53.55Repo10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r197 / (8 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
00:53.57Repo*3.02.26 (04-NOV-2009)*
00:53.58Repo* fixed - border style issue due to renamed textures
00:54.00Repo* fixed - tooltips are now scaled back to normal (100%) when you disable tooltip scaling
00:54.01Repo* changed - settings config option changed to tab style to make the choices more obvious
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01:02.56Repo*3.02.26 (04-NOV-2009)*
01:02.57Repo* fixed - border style issue due to renamed textures
01:02.58Repo* fixed - tooltips are now scaled back to normal (100%) when you disable tooltip scaling
01:02.59Repo* changed - settings config option changed to tab style to make the choices more obvious
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01:09.40Repo10bazooka: 03mitch0 07bulk-config * r94 / (2 files in 2 directories):
01:09.42Repoenable unknown-type plugins by default, change title a bit. bulk setting mostly works, except for plugin enable and placement setting
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01:39.47Repo10recountguessedabsorbs: 03Elsia * r20 GuessedAbsorbs_Mode.lua: - Added Twin Val'kyr's Shield of Darness/Lights spellIDs.
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01:45.01ckknightI am the Lord of Lambdas. None shall deny my throne.
01:49.32WobWorkvar unckknights = db.Subjects.Where( s => s.Master != "CKKnight")
01:49.33WobWorkforeach(var subject in unckknights) subject.Revolt();
01:49.49ckknightnoes!
01:50.10ckknightI'm working on solving the SELECT N + 1 problem
01:50.22ckknighttake this example:
01:51.07ckknightI have C comments, which can have any number of attachments on them, instead of iterating over all C comments and running one query per, I'm taking one query for all of it
01:51.52WobWorkdoes the sql generated return into a terrible terrible mess?
01:51.59ckknightoh no, it's quite beautiful
01:52.05ckknightgiven the API I have, I make expressions on-the-fly
01:52.33ckknightthis.GetRelatedEntityIDs("AttachmentIDs", Attachment.Query, a => a.CommentID)
01:52.33WobWorkmakes an hourglass gesture with both hands questioningly
01:52.54ckknighta => a.CommentID is the differentiator
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01:53.25Megalonlambdas ckknight's throne and takes off
01:53.43ckknightso it looks at all Comments in the given request, and basically runs Attachment.Query.Where(a => commentIDs.Contains(a.CommentID)).Select(new { ID = a.CommentID, RelatedID = a.ID })
01:53.56ckknightthe contains expression and the select expression are generated on-the-fly
01:55.46ckknight*thumbs up*
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01:55.55ckknighteh, it just took me a while to figure out
01:56.03ckknightbut the API that exists now is quite nice and quite clean
01:56.20ckknightif only I could open source it...
01:56.22ckknight<.<
01:56.22ckknight>.>
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02:00.33ckknightI really need to keep a blog.
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02:03.06WobWorkgo make one then =)
02:03.20WobWorkYou could call it "Knight Writer"
02:04.18ckknightlol
02:04.26ckknightnah
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02:06.13ckknightI have ckknight.com
02:06.19ckknightI should really do something with it
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02:07.18WobWorkco.ckknight.com?
02:07.30ckknightWobWork: lulz
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02:07.44WobWorkThere are so many subdomains you could use =)
02:16.04Repo10yssinstancemaps: 03yssaril 07master * fb38a95 / (18 files in 4 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
02:16.06Repofb38a95: lets keep using the blizzard provided frame instead of reusing the old one
02:16.06Repo9d079f0: add the locale table to our data_access lua file
02:16.09Repo2bcc019: oops never noticed that the loot widgets didn't release properly
02:16.09Repo4cc27bf: integrate the GetBossLoot function with the GetLoot function
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02:25.58IngelaAntiarc there?
02:26.00Antiarcyeh
02:26.19Ingela.. but not anymore? :P
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02:27.36Ingelarequesting option to be able to center timings...
02:27.40Ingelaso i can have them like this http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw29876.jpg
02:27.48Ingelaon sexycooldown
02:28.02AntiarcOh, you should be able to do that already
02:28.06AntiarcIt's...where is that.
02:28.18Ingela:O i couldn't find it
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02:28.29AntiarcL["Time corner"]
02:28.32AntiarcL["Select the corner to anchor the time text to."]
02:28.35AntiarcYou can select center
02:28.52AntiarcUnless I misunderstand
02:29.23Ingelawhere is that option?! O.O
02:29.25Ingelai can't find it
02:29.28Ingelalooked through all settings
02:30.41Ingelaoh yeah found it now, i played around with that
02:30.45Ingelabut nothing changes when i change that
02:31.03AntiarcDescribe what you want a bit more
02:31.29Ingelayou see the 0, 1, 10, 30, 60 markings
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02:31.38AntiarcOh, right.
02:31.40Ingelai wantethem placed like that
02:31.45AntiarcAs opposed to what?
02:31.50AntiarcThey should be vertically centered already
02:32.08Ingelahmm, maybe i have a faulty SV then or something
02:35.23Ingelahttp://pici.se/pictures/bxYIOcRyi.jpg look at this one Antiarc
02:35.37Ingelathis is how i have it now... the 3m is further to the rigt then the 1 one is
02:35.42Ingelaand also 1m and 2m has a bigger gap
02:35.52AntiarcYeah, because it's logarithmic :P
02:36.08AntiarcSo what you really want is things equally spaced
02:36.14AntiarcTry playing with the Time Compression slider on the bar
02:36.15Ingelayeah, exactly!
02:36.44Ingelasry for being unclear what i wanted
02:36.45AntiarcWell, you want a linear cooldown bar with arbitrary intervals, it seems, which I don't think quite works :P
02:37.10Ingela=(
02:37.19AntiarcEach timing is centered on the part of the bar that corresponds to that much time left
02:37.47Ingelaoh ok
02:38.02AntiarcThe position on the bar is determined by math.pow(value, const) / math.pow(max, const) * bar width
02:38.11AntiarcIf you graph that, you'll get a feel for what the curve feels like
02:38.43Ingelabut can't you just like.. uhm.. make a linear graph?
02:38.54AntiarcSure, set the time compression to 1
02:38.59Antiarc(since x^1 = 1)
02:39.15Ingelaoh the gap is even bigger now
02:39.57AntiarcRight, because the difference between 30 and 1m is 30, and the difference between 1m and 2m is 60.
02:40.16AntiarcIf you want them perfectly evenly spaced with linear movement, the interval between each timing needs to be the same.
02:40.32Ingelaoh why didn't you say that right away
02:41.00AntiarcIf you want a timing where (60^x - 30^x) = (120^x - 60^x), then you'll have to compute that value, then plug that into the time compression value
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02:42.22AntiarcThough graphing it, they never intersect, except at 0
02:42.51AntiarcOh, wait, they do
02:42.54Ingelahow about splitting the bar into 2 pieces, wouldn't that be possible
02:43.17Ingelaso first bar goes from 1-30 for example, and second goes from 30-3min
02:43.34Ingelaand you could still have them centered because both have equal settings on both bars but not just together
02:43.58Ingelalike bar 1 goes with 5 and bar 2 goes with 30 or something
02:44.09AntiarcYou'll get inconsistent movement speed that way
02:44.21AntiarcIt'll "jump" at the transition
02:44.28Ingelale fu-
02:45.03Ingelaso you're basicly saying "stfu and stop asking for the impossible?" :D
02:45.13AntiarcAt least the way sexycooldown is set up, yeah
02:45.19AntiarcYou can specify custom timings with the latest, though
02:45.23AntiarcSo you can pick timing that line up right
02:45.41Ingelayeah i'll try to see if i can come up with something there
02:45.45Ingelathanks for the info though
02:46.54Ingelaoh, but this you could probebly fix, make "max time" the last number you entered in custom timings maybe :)
02:47.10Ingelai really had to get the last word here :D
02:47.22AntiarcI left that flexible intentionally, but yeah, I considered it
02:47.34Ingelamaybe an toggle option
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02:49.15Ingelaoh! one last thing, make "100" not just say "1m" :D
02:49.34AntiarcYou mean 60?
02:49.37AntiarcOh.
02:49.44AntiarcHm. Wonder how to handle that.
02:49.56Antiarc1.6m?
02:49.57Ingelalooks kinda weird now, 20, 40, 1m, 1m, 2m :D
02:50.16Antiarc1:40 could work I guess. Just so much bigger.
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02:50.26Ingelaor simply just 100?
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02:50.51AntiarcThat's less friendly, IMO, but I guess it could work
02:50.57AntiarcI'll add an option to select display style, I guess
02:51.03Ingelayeah i would appreciate it
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03:21.23harlseems like grapes are best when they just start withering.
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03:29.09Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.6.10 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add custom timing display format option
03:29.16AntiarcIngela: ^
03:29.16Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 04v0.6.10 * b2bfb94 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.6.10
03:29.24IngelaAntiarc: pong
03:29.31Ingelanice!
03:29.46Ingelai shall be updating as soon as i can!
03:29.48Ingelathanks :)
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03:31.42Repo10handy-notes_charon: 03zarevak * r2 / (6 files in 2 directories): initial import
03:31.44RepoWork in progress!!
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03:32.46IngelaAntiarc awesome
03:42.09AntiarcThat'll do what you want?
03:42.20AntiarcYou can extend it, too, just look at the display options table in options.lua
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04:02.50harlma server's gone offline :(
04:03.49harlno more me lying around in some hollow ashenvale's tree
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07:02.15PrimerShefki: How does one delete a group in PB4?
07:03.36Primernm
07:03.38Primerfound it
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07:16.41Repo10libfail-1-0: 03mysticalos * r146 LibFail-1.0.lua:
07:16.43RepoHellfire, fel Inferno seem way to sensetive, don't know if what it is but it doesn't feel like 3 seconds, might have something to do with spells being channeled so initial damage being nearly 1-2 seconds in but they aren't allowing people enough time to move, changed to 4 to see how that works.
07:16.44RepoChanged choking cloud to only be a fail if it causes death, it barely does damage so someone has to be completely numpty retarded to die to it. Should only be a fail from death, was creating a LOT of spam in it's current state.
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08:50.24Repo- Tweaks to the tooltip to make them more visible when scanning a list by hovering.
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09:55.18jnwhitehhttp://apidiff.pastey.net/127558
09:56.38ShefkiMultiTouch O.O
09:56.48jnwhitehsrsly
09:57.40ShefkiWish my MacBook was new enough to support that to play around with that.
09:57.55jnwhitehhehe
09:57.56jnwhitehoh
09:58.02jnwhitehi need someone wiht one of the new 18-million button mice
09:58.06jnwhitehto test the beta of clique on wowi
09:58.08jnwhitehand tell me if it works
09:58.09jnwhitehin any way
09:58.22ShefkiI have a Lachesis but not a Naga.
09:58.26jnwhitehemail mei fyou do =)
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09:58.54ShefkiBut I can probably test whatever you need with the Lachesis.
09:59.14ShefkiSince the Naga is really just like all the other Razer mice just with more buttons.
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10:42.35Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sztanpet * r147 LibFail-1.0.lua:
10:42.37RepoToC - Hellfire was not firing at all, modify it, the reason:
10:42.39Repothe method we use to throttle fails fails, as we update the timestamp used on every damage tick, so it never goes beyond the threshold or causes a fail right after the second casting of the damaging spell
10:42.42Repofix up hellfire to be correct, need to sort out the others (where it matters)
10:43.47Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sztanpet * r148 LibFail-1.0.lua: and now make hellfire not spam if someone fails repeatedly
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11:06.28stolen|schoolthat's a ton of netsplits oO
11:11.10mitch0sztanpet: I think I know why your plugins didn't show up in Bazooka
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11:15.02sztanpetnice
11:17.04mitch0it's pretty obvious. I disable dataobjects by default if their type is unknown (neither "launcher" nor "data source")
11:17.13mitch0so your missing plugins fuck that up
11:17.59mitch0I'll change this setting so that everything gets enabled by default, in fact it's already like that in the bulk-config branch
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11:48.39mitch0disco?
11:48.41mitch0no
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13:08.36yoshimoroll tracker lite uses "if GetLocale() == 'deDE' then RANDOM_ROLL_RESULT = "(.+) w\195\188rfelt. Ergebnis: %d (%d-%d)" end"  to get the result of the roll, but on my german client the result it gets is a very very high number, far above 1-100
13:09.05yoshimothe char is called samirâ, could this be a reason?
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13:14.28Elkanoshouldn't since it uses (.+) for the char name
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13:15.46vhaarryes but that will capture the name and then the range, not the rolled value
13:16.18vhaarr".+ w\195\188rfelt. Ergebnis: (%d) \(%d-%d\)" is what you want, I guess
13:16.32vhaarr%d+ in all fields
13:16.39vhaarrgoes to work
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13:26.25yoshimomhmm, still doesnt work right, ..\AddOns\RollTracker\RollTracker.lua line 129:
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13:48.41Funkeh`anyone know?
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14:54.15mitch0nobody cares
14:55.30ansikwhy 3 days don't increase Reward points? :-)
14:55.43mitch0yeah, they're robbing us
14:55.55mitch0all thouse points are redirected to Arrowmaster. he needs a new bike
14:55.56nevcairielits a new month
14:56.23Fiskermy parents need a new car mitch0 :/
14:56.25Fiskerthis is an outrage
14:56.48mitch0fisker: you get reward points, too?
14:56.48ansikwho can read policy of increasing reward points?
14:57.07Fiskernaw mitch0
14:57.09Fiskeri wish i did
14:57.16Fiskerso i could buy my parents a new car
14:57.16Fisker:(
14:58.04mitch0bazooka generates something like 0.1 points per day. I can give 10% of that to you :)
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14:59.19Fiskeratleast i'm in the RUSE beta
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15:02.28Wobinhm, I could get 2 100 dollar gift cards...
15:02.47Wobinpity the majority of that would be spent on postage
15:03.45Ackisor you could give them to me
15:03.51Ackis(no idea what you're talking about)
15:03.57FiskerAckis
15:03.59Fiskeri got pearls
15:04.12Fiskerhttp://i33.tinypic.com/182f4l.jpg
15:05.07Ackisthat's a pearl?
15:05.16Ackismight be why I never got one, I kept vendoring them :P
15:05.48Fiskeryeah failure color
15:05.55Fiskerbut they're sorted after rarity
15:06.00Fiskerso only if the white is on top is it a pearl
15:06.10Ackisah ok
15:06.16Ackisyou knew there's two oranges right?
15:06.21Fisker3 actually
15:06.31Fiskerwell the other is more yellow than orange
15:07.44Fiskeri also have a corrossive artifact i can't use :(
15:08.06AckisI never got how artifacts work
15:08.16Ackisapparently you can have 1 of each type in your gun
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15:08.42Fiskerwut?
15:09.00Ackisyou have 4 artifact slots
15:10.43AckisThey are equiped to your classes special attack abilty. for me (roland) i place a corrosion AF in the Turret, it adds corrosion dam and effects. If you look on your skills page, up the top left is a box that you can click on and switch between the different AF's you have collected.
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15:11.49Fiskeryes
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15:12.02Fiskerbut not all classes have a fucking gun as their special attack ability n00b
15:12.17HjalteMy guild. might be looking for a new way of managing dkp soon. Currently using eqdkp on let server. Any other good tools around?
15:12.52Fiskeranyways i just killed myself tonight Ackis
15:13.01Fiskernope Hjalte
15:13.24Ackisyou killed yourself?
15:13.42Fiskeryep
15:13.44KalrothAckis: not yet, tonight
15:13.51FiskerSiren has an ability called "Phoenix"
15:13.57FiskerWhen you kill someone you emit fire
15:14.00AckisFisker: I know
15:14.03AckisI've beat the game
15:14.04FiskerI killed someone and ran past 2 barrels
15:14.07AckisI have 1000/1000 on it
15:14.07Fiskerfffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-
15:14.15AckisI'm level 50
15:14.30FiskerAnd yet you were stupid enough to consider all special abillities "a gun"
15:14.35Fiskerso i really do doubt you knew
15:14.55AckisI used an example dumbass
15:15.21FiskerYeah and gun in anyones world would've meant the items i.e. GUNS you carry
15:15.27Fiskernot the "gun" i.e. TURRET you throw
15:15.50Ackisno artifacts add elemental damage to your special abilities :P
15:15.59AckisI didn't like the berserkers special ability
15:16.04Ackisthe sirens was interesting
15:16.12Megalontries to add elemental damage to Fisker's special ability, but he has none
15:16.14Fiskeryeah and i have an artifact i can't use
15:16.21Fiskerso when you use the term "ZOMG YOU CAN USE THEM IN A GUN"
15:16.26FiskerThen i am INTERESTED
15:16.39FiskerMegalon lies
15:16.52Fiskeri went to special school, special classes and all the teachers told me i were special
15:17.01Fiskeri must have like tons of special abilities
15:17.28Ackisanyways borderlands is so last week
15:17.38Ackishell it's 2 weeks ago
15:17.42Ackislast week was forza
15:17.47Ackisthis week is dragonage
15:17.51Ackisl2keep up with games
15:18.03pompy1~lart Ackis
15:18.03purltakes out Ackis with the trash
15:18.33FiskerForza is shit Ackis
15:19.14Ackiss/is/is the/
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15:24.40ThiefMasterhi, in which events should i register/unregister hooks which hook a function of another addon?
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15:27.54ansiksomebody can help with localization? http://www.wowace.com/addons/fubar_repafu/localization/
15:34.30Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r684 Storm_Peaks/Tribunal_of_Ages.lua: Use displayName
15:37.05mitch0ansik: I don't think spamming that a few times every day will get you anywhere
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16:43.32sb|workDaemona: yep
16:44.12sb|workDaemona: images are fine here
16:45.04Daemonausing firefox and its just timing out trying to fetch stuff from www.techpowerup.com when expanding a topic
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17:31.13Pneu^wow, they are finally removing the upper level cap on meeting stones
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17:36.15ckknightPneu^: woo!
17:36.18ckknightPneu^: link?
17:36.32Pneu^in the blue posts on mmochamp
17:36.37Pneu^first/second article
17:37.18Pneu^haha i just spotify rickrolled someone
17:37.21Pneu^best thing ever
17:37.28yoshimotook them long enough
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17:56.59Fiskerckknight
17:57.06ckknighthey Fisker
17:57.07ckknighthow's life?
17:57.10Fiskerdid you get an e-mail about being invited to the SC2 beta?
17:57.17ckknightno
17:57.27Fiskerdid i?
17:57.34ckknightthat's something only you would know
17:58.19Pneu^did i?
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18:07.05Fiskeranyone using grid?
18:08.47Fisker~seen myrrodin
18:08.49purlFisker: i haven't seen 'myrrodin'
18:08.56Fisker~seen myrroddin
18:08.57purlmyrroddin <n=chatzill@S0106000ea68d54b5.ed.shawcable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 43d 16h 16m 13s ago, saying: 'thanks!'.
18:09.01Fiskerdamn you
18:09.47Megalonthanks
18:12.27Fisker~seen tuller
18:12.28purltuller <n=muffins@pool-72-84-246-12.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 17h 2m 4s ago, saying: 'hard'.
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18:48.35AckisFisker: what's wrong? why are you after him?
18:52.15Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2626 RecipeDB/ARL-Engineer.lua:
18:52.17RepoAdded missing acquire data for some engineering recipes from Timofey Oshenko, Ticket 575
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18:56.58Subdinohi
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18:57.26Subdinois there any online repository broswer ?
18:57.39Pneu^only for hg repos
18:57.39Subdino...on wowace, of course
18:57.42Subdinook
18:57.49ThiefMasteris there a way to send whispers from an addon without them being shown as being sent?
18:58.03Pneu^ThiefMaster: youd have to make a chatmsg filter
18:58.12Pneu^check how bigwigs does it for example
18:58.28Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-75-g3c3eb79 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
18:58.30Repo3c3eb79: Fix up some comments, and change the debug print out for determing the number of filters we have.  Code is the same as ARL, yet doesn't work so I'm thinking this is an issue with the funky way we're handling the counts for different types of collectibles.
18:58.30Repoa13ec8d: Modify the function which determines if we're displaying something on the mini-map or not.  It should now show reputation and mob drops.
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18:59.02ThiefMasterty
18:59.10ThiefMasterin which event should i set the filter? oninit or onenable?
18:59.38Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2627 ARLDatamine.lua:
18:59.40RepoChanged check from "mana every 5 seconds" to "mana per 5 sec."
18:59.43Ackisanyone here using collectinator right now? trying to debug something (just need you to update, do a pet scan and a mount scan and then paste met hte text output)
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19:00.16Ackissince pompy1 won't help me! ;)
19:00.22pompy1nope ;p
19:03.09yoshimoi had a lot of debug messages in my chat earlier
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19:04.55Ackisyoshimo: should be a listing of known/unkown, filtereed etc with numbers right?
19:05.17MysticalOSsent
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19:06.57yoshimohttp://paste.wowace.com/1375/ ackis
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19:07.09Ackisty to both of you
19:09.30yoshimoim trying to get my hands on all things you can collect, pets, mounts, t-x-items , recipes... , you help a lot ;)
19:10.00Ackisnot familiar with t-x-items?
19:11.46yoshimox  is a number between 0 and 11
19:12.44Ackisahh
19:12.44yoshimothe raiditemssets i mean
19:12.47Ackistier pieces
19:17.55Repo10auracle: 03taleden * r83 / (2 files in 1 directory):
19:17.57Repo- removed SpellID 51880 from Stun preset (Fire Nova Totem replaced by spell in WoW 3.3, talent no longer stuns)
19:19.47Ackiswhat makes more sense: your known count never decreasing when you change filters, or your known count decreasing with how many of them you've filtered out?
19:21.05taledenis there any way to have beta packages built for testers to grab from the wowace files tab, but only sync release packages to curse?
19:21.23Ackisno
19:21.26Ackisbeta/release will sync
19:21.28taledenboo.
19:21.34Ackisrelease is default download for curse client however
19:22.04taledenyeah, but the curse project page still shows "latest version" even if it's a beta after a previous release
19:22.08Pneu^except when it isnt
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19:29.47taledenwhat happens if an addon's TOC is higher than the client instead of lower?  does it still trigger the "out of date addon" checkbox?
19:30.15MysticalOSAckis, i like your Collectinator screenshot. real demonstration of feature set ;)
19:30.15Pneu^yes
19:30.27Pneu^if it doesnt equal the current build number it's considered out of date
19:31.43AckisMysticalOS: heh it's an icon for use within the addon, wowace just assumed it should be shown there
19:31.46chiperis there a way to go back to using Dogtag in pitbull 4?
19:32.11chiperit looks like it should be possible, but the format type menu only offered Lua as an option
19:32.32Repo10auracle: 03taleden * r84 Auracle.toc: - 1.1.2-beta-1
19:33.48Repo10auracle: 03taleden 041.1.2-beta-1 * r85 : Tagging as 1.1.2-beta-1
19:34.37Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-77-gdffb5fa Frame.lua: [+2 commits]
19:34.39Repodffb5fa: Add super secret progress code for use with characters named Ackis only.
19:34.40Repodcfd209: Move the debug text to a special Ackis only if loop, doing some testingtickles.
19:34.54Ackis"TheCollector makes me wet right tnow... when collectinator is near finished, ill use that" <-- thanks pompy
19:35.13chipertosses a ping at ckknight
19:35.23ckknighthey all, back from lunch
19:35.26ckknightwhat's up, chiper?
19:35.44chiperis it possible to use dogtag in PB4?
19:35.48ckknightyes
19:35.52ckknightenable the module
19:35.57chiperohhh
19:36.01Groktarwhy dogtag vs luatext
19:36.05Groktarjust curious
19:36.53chiperI thought I had all the modules enabled, that would explain it
19:36.54chiperGroktar: because I already have all my dogtags done :P
19:36.54pentium166because you can't be arsed to recreate your dogtag in luatext
19:36.54Groktarlol
19:36.58chiperckknight: ty
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19:38.15chiperhad one other thing I was curious about.  I noticed that if I assign two notifications or text to the same location the stack horizontally.  is there a way to make them stack vertically?
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19:38.52ckknightchiper: not to my knowledge. You'd have to place them in different locations.
19:39.01chiperk, that's what I figured
19:42.44mitchnullFCC/DOT Want High-tech Cure For Distracted Driving
19:42.57chipero.O
19:42.59mitchnullwho's the one with the distracted driving poll?
19:43.03mitchnullarrowmaster?
19:44.55mitchnullarrowmaster: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/11/04/1813239 (in case you care)
19:45.04pompyIn what way is this piece of gear associated with leather!? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47640
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19:54.16Arrowmasterwhat?
19:58.12Fiskeranyone know why GridStatusRaidDebuffs doesn't show a timer on debuffs anymore?
20:07.30mitchnullarrowmaster: weren't you the one with the distracted drivers poll on wowi?
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20:12.12Fisker~seen Zeksie
20:12.15purlzeksie <n=zeksie@cpc1-nott9-0-0-cust756.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9d 23h 25m 36s ago, saying: 'yeh, downloaded it and tried the packaged one. should be ok'.
20:12.24Fisker~seen Zek
20:12.25purlzek <n=zeksie@cpc1-nott9-0-0-cust756.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 3h 42m 21s ago, saying: 'moo'.
20:20.55Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2628 / (4 files in 2 directories): Added 'scan_data.tank = true' to the 'expertise' check
20:20.57RepoTicket 825, refining the enchanting database.
20:20.58RepoTicket 826, refining the blacksmithing database.
20:21.00RepoTicket 846, refining the jewelcrafting database.
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20:38.42Arrowmastermitch0: yeah but the poll is closed now
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20:39.44sb|workWTF $$ for pets?
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20:47.27Megalonsb|work: the achievementwhores will pay anything :P
20:48.24MysticalOSsaw that too
20:48.32MysticalOSguess we know where lil KT and panda come from now
20:49.24Ackisdoes anyone have the lik KT item that you learn the pet from? aka item id for it?
20:49.43sb|workMegalon: i will also pay, thats the problem :(
20:49.55Ackissb|work: I already paid :(
20:50.29sb|workwell its us battle.net only at the moment
20:50.35sb|work(it is, right? :p)
20:51.17sb|workhm okay, its not
20:51.33sb|workso its 2 pets * 2 accounts (me & gf) - this sucks, 40 eur :o
20:52.28robotuschAckis I ahve it
20:52.48robotuschPandaren monk is 69541, Lil' KT is 69677
20:56.05MysticalOS10 dollars is too much for a pet, i mighta done it for a dollar, but not 10
20:57.40Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-79-g1468696 / (6 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits]
20:57.42Repo1468696: Add perky pug placeholder.
20:57.44Repo15cd566: Add new store purchased acquire flag, and add the two new money gouging blizzard pets.
20:57.49Ackisrobotusch: those are the spell ID's, not the items that you got though?
20:58.41robotuschblargh
20:58.51robotuschhaven't got an addon for that bit
21:00.34Ackisrobotusch: /script local _, itemId = strsplit(":", "Pet Link Here");print(itemId)
21:01.41robotuschLil' Phylactery = 49693
21:01.51Ackistyvm
21:02.05robotuschPandaren Monk = 49665
21:02.14robotuschrunning with brutal lag atm >_>
21:02.22Pneu^more like /script local foo, bar = "Ackis", "keylogger"; print(("%s is a %s"):format(foo, bar))
21:02.26Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-80-g13d27e7 DB/PetDatabase.lua: [+1 commit] add ky jelly's item ID.
21:02.53robotuschhttp://sarth3d.dk/WoWScrnShot_110409_215429.jpg :3
21:03.10Pneu^orange jewels :o
21:03.26robotuschalso, that's after throwing him a biscuit
21:03.36robotuschlol
21:03.40AckisI can't redeem my codes, said my account wasn't active
21:03.44robotuschthe Pandaren just went berzerk :D
21:05.18sb|workmeh :(
21:05.20Ackisnow it's saying too many attempts go fuck yourself
21:05.32sb|worki dont want to do that! :p
21:05.44pompyit doesnt want u to use them ackis
21:05.56Ackishey pompy, are you still wet? :P
21:06.01sb|workand its far too long till xmas, my gf will find out about the pets until then
21:06.04sb|work*sigh* :)
21:06.06AckisCollectinator is the first pet collecting mod to have KT and pandaran :P
21:06.24pompydoes it have mr chilly?
21:06.33Ackisyes ma'am
21:06.34pompylol The Collector doesnt have it still.
21:06.35Pneu^any idea if they are on EU store?
21:06.55sb|workAckis: yea in like 2 days, after you fixed all drycoding stuff :p
21:06.57sb|workthey are Pneu^
21:07.02Pneu^sexleg
21:07.03sb|workPneu^: http://eu.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=221003558
21:07.20Pneu^fuck me expensive
21:07.23Pneu^vs USD prices
21:07.32sb|workyea :(
21:07.42Ackissb|work: :O
21:07.51Ackishttp://www.wowace.com/addons/collectinator/localization/ <-- I NEEDZ FOREGINERS
21:08.14robotuschNi hao?
21:08.21pompybandeho!
21:08.28sb|workyo wont get those german translations! :p
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21:08.37Ackissb|work: NEIN
21:09.10robotuschach du lieber, das ist nich so gut
21:09.38yoshimoackis i thought the number would decrease even more with the use of questids...
21:09.46Ackisscrew you! I'm twittering it!
21:09.55Ackisyoshimo: there were only 30-40 quests
21:09.57Pneu^just bought the panda
21:09.59Pneu^ftw
21:10.08Ackishttp://twitter.com/jpasula <-- TWITTERED
21:10.10sb|workPneu^: i hate you! :p
21:10.14AckisYeah! I did it!
21:10.18pompy~lart Ackis
21:10.18purlteaches Ackis that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right.
21:10.21Pneu^only because half is going ot make a wish
21:10.33Ackis~rlart
21:10.33purlblasts Bribri with a huge firehose then strangles Bribri with it
21:10.37pompylol
21:11.20RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/handy-notes_charon/. HandyNotes_Charon. zarevak (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
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21:12.59Ackiseek I"m seen
21:13.43Daemonaat least i don't get tempted to buy a pandaren... i dont own a creditcard and therefor cant finish the checkout \o/
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21:21.21sb|workDaemona: lucky you... :p
21:21.38Pneu^i wouldnt have bothered if they werent giving half to make a wish though
21:22.33kadrahilslaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout
21:22.44kadrahilslaps ckknight around a bit with a large Fisker
21:23.00ckknighto noes
21:23.29kadrahilyou've been slapped by a fish smelling fisker
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21:24.15AckisFisker is a smelly fish
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21:29.23BWMerlinodd my curse premium subscription isnt working
21:29.40XtekBWMerlin: Where at?
21:29.58BWMerlinin the curse client v4
21:30.15XtekHmm, did you recently purchase it?
21:30.26BWMerlinnope Ackis gave it to me
21:33.22Ackis@project arl
21:33.24RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), pompachomp (Author), Torhal (Author), Zhinjio (Former author). Updated: 68 minutes ago. Tickets: 23/856
21:33.34yoshimoackis, are you sure that you got that string right ? "L["Store"] = "Blizzard Store"" on the collectionator translation page
21:33.49Ackisyoshimo: for now yah it's good
21:34.15yoshimothe L[] irritates me
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21:35.33Ackishas to be done since they're all in a translation table
21:36.10yoshimothe only entry i saw with an L[] is the blizzard store, so i asked
21:36.24Ackislet me check
21:37.49Ackisfixed, sorry brain fart I think
21:38.01ShirikAckis had a bug? o.o
21:38.11Shirikinc commit message: fixed brain fart
21:38.32Ackis...
21:38.42MysticalOSthat doesn't beat "fix bug breakin shit"
21:39.01MysticalOSbest commit message ever
21:39.15Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-81-g4a0df18 Collectinator.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed brain fart.
21:39.20Shiriklol
21:39.24Ackis:P
21:39.49winksAckis: you should really employ some babelfish
21:40.01Shirikor translation party
21:40.02winksI demand "Schneesturm Ladengeschäft" in the German version
21:40.22Shirikoh, you mean the addon
21:40.34AckisI do use libbabble
21:40.34ShirikAnd this is why it's illegal to reuse names like that
21:40.45winksBlizzard-Speicher
21:40.48winksalso not bad
21:40.55winks(actual altavista)
21:41.20yoshimothey translate even citynames, so i think i should translate it to eissturm as well ;)
21:41.24winksouch. google gail
21:41.27winks*FAIL
21:41.36winksBlizzard Store -> Blizzard Shop
21:41.44winkslast I checked that's not a word here o_O
21:41.59ShirikMaybe you need to stay in school :)
21:42.10yoshimoshop & store are both english, so thats no translation ;)
21:42.20AckisI'm so confused
21:42.23AckisI think I'm being mocked
21:42.25Ackisand I don't realize it
21:42.27Ackis:(
21:42.30Shirikno is both english and spanish
21:42.37Shirikthat doesn't mean it's not a translation
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21:44.26Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r382 / (2 files in 1 directory): blacklist update
21:45.25Shirik~x de en Shop
21:45.35Shirik~x en de Store
21:45.42nevcairiellol
21:45.53Shirik~x en de Shop
21:46.07nevcairielYou could just ask
21:46.14Shirikhi nevcairiel
21:46.17Shirikis it a Speicher?
21:46.32ShirikOr a Geschafunnydotsthingyft?
21:46.37Shirikhey that looks almost german
21:46.41Shirikit's not quite long enough as a word though
21:46.50nevcairielspeicher is like .. storing stuff, you "speicher" a file on your harddrive :P
21:47.00Shirikoh lol
21:47.02nevcairielthe other one is fine
21:47.12Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v3.6.0.7 * r383 : Tagging as v3.6.0.7
21:47.46nevcairielif you don't have the ä, you can replace it with ae and everyone will know what you mean :p
21:47.59Shirikit's more fun to say afunnydotsthingy
21:48.07ShirikBecause it makes the word long enough to be german
21:48.29Shirik~x en de funny dotted thing
21:48.35Shirikgrr
21:48.39Shirikhow can I make a really long word?
21:48.42winksspeicher is actually memory ;)
21:48.46winksor in dialect, attic
21:48.56StanzillaDonaudampferfahrerkapitän
21:49.00nevcairielits also a verb
21:49.01Shirikisn't like adjective gets added t owords?
21:49.02winksShirik: use many nouns and join them
21:49.03Shirikor something?
21:49.05nevcairielto store = speichern
21:49.12Shirikwhy do the words become so long
21:49.12winksit's hard with other stuff
21:49.12Shirikthere's a reason
21:49.17winksUSE MOAR NOUNS
21:49.22Shirikwhy?
21:49.25winkslonger words
21:49.28Shirik...
21:49.40Shirikso I just say random nouns and they become a single word
21:49.44Shirikthat's not a reason
21:49.50winksyou have a good chance
21:49.57Shirikyou still are failing at giving me a reason
21:50.04nevcairielWell we don't like hyphenating words
21:50.07winks[22:48:34] (+Shirik) how can I make a really long word?
21:50.13Shirik(16:49:06) (+Shirik) why do the words become so long
21:50.24Shirikthe answer is not "because we wanted to put a bunch of nouns together"
21:50.36winksit seems like it though
21:50.44Shirikwhat it seems like is irrelevant
21:50.47winkswell, I predict..
21:50.50winksin 50 years it's gone
21:50.52Shirikyou are answering what you want to answer, and not what I am asking
21:50.56Shirikwhich is entirely worthless to me
21:51.00winksalready now people (wrongly) write many words
21:51.03winkswhen it owuld be one word
21:51.34nevcairielDonaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaft .. perfectly valid word :P
21:51.46Shirik~x de en Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaft
21:51.55winksrofl
21:52.07winksDanube steamboat company actually
21:52.10AckisBless you nevcairiel
21:52.34Shirikok so any set of nouns that are a single entity
21:52.51winksshopkeeper is irregular
21:52.54nevcairielyou could hyphenate the word as well, but people don't do that
21:52.58winksbut we contract all of that
21:53.55winksthere's one page devoted to wrong spellings
21:53.56winkshttp://www.deppenleerzeichen.de/
21:54.11winksbecause in German if you do NOT contract the nouns, it may have another sense
21:54.19winkslike here it's about the Porsche 911
21:54.33winksit says "the new 911 models"
21:54.58winkswhich in German can ONLY say "911 different models" and not " all the 2-3  models of the Porsche 911"
21:55.17winkswhereas in English you have to guess anyway
21:55.26Shirikuh
21:55.29Shirikhow do you figure?
21:55.45winkswat
21:55.47ShirikSay something that is ambiguous
21:56.01winks"[pic] the new 911 models"
21:56.13ShirikSo that would mean the Porsche 911
21:56.14winksok, it would be "the 911 new models"
21:56.15winksmy bad
21:56.22Shirikright
21:56.26Shirikneither of those are ambiguous
21:56.30winksso strike my last sentence
21:56.33SunTsuwinks: well, you _could_ say "Die neuen 911er Modelle"
21:56.41winksbut in German a single "-" makes the difference
21:56.46winksSunTsu: that's not the point :)
21:56.51ShirikYou haven't convinced me
21:56.55Shirikthere is no ambiguity
21:57.02winksas I said, I was wrong
21:57.06Shirikthe very fact that you recognized the difference in placement of 911 is important
21:57.09winksbut... why should I convice you?
21:57.09Pneu^anyone happen to have one of these: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/webcam_communications/internet_headsets_phones/devices/4226&cl=gb,en
21:57.18winksthere is nothing to be convinced
21:57.27Shirik(16:55:13) (winks) whereas in English you have to guess anyway
21:57.33ShirikI would appreciate it if people didn't lie about my language
21:57.35Daemonaok, new try, for americans 911 is bombing a skyscraper, for germans its a car?
21:57.37ShirikI hate English as much as anyone else
21:57.41winksstrike it! I said
21:57.43Daemonahides behind nevcairiel.
21:57.46winksif anything, I'd like to convince you to never leantr German
21:57.49winksit's not worth it :P
21:57.52nevcairiellol Daemona
21:57.56winkss/leantr/learn/
21:58.00Shirikyeah
21:58.04Shirikthat's another point
21:58.05Repo10project-14588: 03INSOMNIAX * r41 / (3 files in 1 directory): RepTracker:
21:58.06Repo- Updated after a long hiatus.
21:58.07Shirik911 is emergency number to me
21:58.08Repo- Updated for 3.2
21:58.10winkshaha
21:58.11ShirikI never heard of a car 911
21:58.28winks"hello operator? gimme the number for nine one one"
21:58.31SunTsuwinks: if I had the choice I wouldn't have learnt german either
21:58.42SunTsuShirik: Porsche model
21:58.50winksSunTsu: It's a foreign language to me as well, I'm from Munich :)
21:58.51nevcairielseriously? you don't know the porsche 911? get out moar
21:58.54SunTsuShirik: basically _the_ porsche model
21:58.59Daemonahttp://static.pagenstecher.de/uploads/3/36/364/3647/porsche-911-gt3-rsr1.jpg
21:59.00Daemona...
21:59.10winks[ ] cool car
21:59.32Daemonawinks if you are from munich you arn't german, you are bavarian :X
21:59.44winksnever said I was, just that I spoke it
21:59.46SunTsuDaemona: I was about to write that ;)
22:00.09nevcairielIf you are from munich, chances are that you don't really speak german :P
22:00.30winksI can make myself clear :)
22:00.37winksthen again, munich isn't so bad
22:00.43winkscompared to the countryside
22:00.54nevcairieli suppose in the city its acceptable
22:00.54winksthose say we don't even speak bavarian
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22:01.45winkshaha this is brilliant: http://www.deppenleerzeichen.de/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/deutschlandachter.gif
22:02.26winksthey meant: "Germany eight" (rowing) and they wrote "Germany (scored) eigth"
22:02.42winks+h
22:02.53winkshurr my spelling is abysmal today
22:03.04SunTsuwinks: the first time I was in munich and visited a shop I prepared myself to hear something incomprehensible from the cashier - and I did, because she spoke SAXONIAN!
22:03.12nevcairiellol
22:03.15winkshehe
22:03.48winksthe bakery girl in Dortmund just looked at me weird when I first asked for Brezn and then Semmeln (half asleep)
22:04.35winksI really wonder how bad it is for people in the US from east to west or north to south
22:05.22Daemonaat least you dont ask for a "pancake" when you want a "berliner"
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22:06.01winkskrapfen :)
22:06.19winksoh the joy
22:06.26Megalonyea, krapfen time
22:06.36Daemonai raise your krapfen and add a fleischpflanzerl
22:06.40Daemona(ohmy)
22:06.44Megalona what
22:06.47winksthere's no wonder I always start laughing manically when someone in SciFi mentions Terra/Terrans and a "Common Language"
22:06.51SunTsu.o0( Reminds my of the bakery girl in Bonn who told me that what I wanted wasn't a "Berliner" but a "Bonner" )
22:07.06Daemonabasically a burger patty, just fatter
22:07.10winksWe call them Wiener Würstchen but the Austrian call em Frankfurter :)
22:07.17Daemonanormal germans refer to it as "frikadelle" ;)
22:07.31winksFaschierte Laiberl
22:07.41DaemonaWHAT? o.O
22:07.56Megalonlabalan
22:08.03Megalonyea, not fleischpflanzerl, wtf
22:08.04Megalon:x
22:08.25winksMegalon: nooo, written, niot spoken :)
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22:21.18Repo10project-14588: 03INSOMNIAX * r42 / (3 files in 1 directory): RepTracker:
22:21.19Repo- Updated Externals to Ace3.
22:22.28Repo10project-14588: 03INSOMNIAX * r43 ziplist.wau: RepTracker:
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22:24.43Ackiswhy am I getting: "The selected World of Warcraft license is not available to play." when I have an active account and I'm trying to redeem an in-game pet token?
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22:27.14Ackiswow
22:27.23Ackisyou can't redeem them if your account is "cancelled" lol
22:27.45Arrowmastercanceled but still active?
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22:27.57Ackisyes
22:28.06Fiskerslaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout
22:28.13Fiskeri redeemed them and got nothing!
22:28.13Arrowmasterdoes that mean people that use game cards cant redeem them?
22:28.15Ackisplay time was good til nov 26, had to renew for a fake month to get the pets
22:28.35Fiskersounds bugged
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22:29.03Ackisprolly
22:30.03Fiskeri demand justice Ackis
22:30.07Fiskergive me my damn pet
22:30.23Ackis:P
22:32.07ZynFisker, delete your game
22:32.35kadrahilso
22:32.43kadrahilwhen do we get cataclysm beta invites :D
22:33.02Pneu^it has to go through alpha first...
22:33.13kadrahili want an alpha invite!
22:34.17Pneu^only invites to alphas are F&F i think
22:34.27Pneu^so make friends with a GM :)
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22:35.33kadrahili don't know any GM's :(
22:35.37kadrahilunfortunately
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22:36.48winkswhy would you play an alpha?
22:36.50AckisI'm a GM!
22:36.52winksespecially wow
22:36.52Ackisahaha
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22:46.22Ackis?
22:51.46Fiskeryay Ackis
22:51.48Repo10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * Alpha4-82-g9332ace .docmeta: [+1 commit] Change the markup type for "Database Documentation" page to creole.
22:51.49Fiskeri got my pet :(
22:51.51Fiskeror :)?
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