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00:13.55vhaarrIngela: the API is very simple, so there are no docs
00:14.01vhaarrIngela: so just ask me directly
00:14.21Ingelaaight ok
00:16.14ansikhmm. why i have curse-premium, while i don't buy it?
00:16.50ansikwhat is "_complimentary_ subscription to Curse Premium!"?
00:19.09vhaarryou get it for free because you're an addon author
00:20.04Repo10little-wigs: 03Rabbit * r679 Dragonblight/Elder_Nadox.lua: Fix guardian spawn message.
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00:21.59Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6751 Core/Core.lua:
00:22.00RepoDon't need to reset the icons any more, the plugin takes care of it.
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00:40.09vhaarrIngela: I updated http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsink-2-0/ with a bit of info
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00:45.23Ingelavhaarr thanks <3
00:47.41Brunerscooking hat equip addon, what was the name
00:50.33Gnarfozhmhmm
00:50.43GnarfozAmazon.de Gift Cards are out of stock :(
00:51.03Gnarfozany Curse people online?
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00:52.25winkillerBruners: anything with chef maybe?
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00:55.58Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2610 RecipeDB/ARL-Engineer.lua: more of-Ticket 807, refining the engineering database.
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01:04.13Brunerswinkiller: found it, iron chef
01:04.49sylvanaarGnarfoz great, do you notice missing addons, or addons that dont get grouped (using group by name)
01:05.04Gnarfozhmm, I don't use group by name, I think
01:05.12Gnarfozand I'm too drunk to check if there are any addons missing
01:05.13Gnarfoz:D
01:07.04sylvanaarGnarfoz, group by name is the best
01:07.40sylvanaarits what's in the screenshots
01:07.59Brunerssylvanaar: testing it now btw, seems to be working
01:09.57sylvanaarBruners awesome, i fixed a number of things that had been broken for a while, and !! Auctioneed finally groups into 1 addon
01:10.07sylvanaarauctioneer
01:10.20Brunerssylvanaar: its the 3.2.0.25 im supposed to test right?
01:10.27Brunersr25
01:10.30sylvanaaryes
01:10.47Brunersstill cant star the first addon in a group
01:11.03sylvanaaryeah - that will never work
01:11.15Brunersit kinda does with dominos now :P
01:11.35sylvanaaryou can star it, but not in the group by name sorting
01:11.58Brunershttp://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/WoWScrnShot_110109_021125.jpg
01:12.07Brunersstar+group thingie at the same time
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01:13.33sylvanaarthat looks broken to me
01:13.36sylvanaarlol
01:13.53sylvanaarlet me look again
01:13.53Brunersthe recursive.. what does it do
01:14.04Brunersnever understood it
01:14.25Brunersnever bothered trying to understand it :P
01:14.53sylvanaarBruners it enables dependancies needed to load an addon
01:15.32sylvanaarBruners the star breaks the group-by-name sort so one of the groups doesnt have a collapse button
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01:16.32Brunerssylvanaar: what do you look for to group something ?
01:17.11sylvanaarBruners it uses Master_Clild names, but i have added a way to handle addons that dont use that naming also
01:18.34sylvanaar2 examples are DBM and Auctioneer
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01:20.04sylvanaarthey have special cases, one uses X-Part-Of TOC entry, and the other I just modify the name internally
01:21.42Brunerssylvanaar: i cant star the last addon in the list in Titles view
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01:21.58sylvanaarwhat is it
01:22.06Brunershttp://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/WoWScrnShot_110109_022146.jpg
01:22.50sylvanaardoes its tooltip match the addon name
01:23.01Brunersyes
01:23.15sylvanaarok, sounds like a bug
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01:26.58sylvanaarbtw visualslickedit has a really nice lua support - i was checking it out yesterday too bad its $300
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01:44.24sylvanaarwow thats new
01:44.48sylvanaar*** Taintforced *** has been blocked ...
01:44.53sylvanaarwhat is that
01:45.46TorhalI'd almost say that's an AddOn written specifically to force taint. Heh
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01:49.26Shiriksetmetatable(_G, {__index = function(t,k) return t[k] end})
01:49.29Shirikepic taint
01:49.35Shirikeh
01:49.40Shirikthat should be return rawset(t,k)
01:49.47Shirikrawget*
01:49.49Shirikdamn it
01:50.34sylvanaarit is
01:51.01sylvanaarits the restricted environment stuff
01:52.52sylvanaarwhy does that stuff always have to break
01:53.43sylvanaarUnitDropDownMenu
01:53.52Gnarfozcan I combine multiple Amazon gift cards to pay for one order?
01:53.58Gnarfozanyone know that?
01:54.56FtH|Daemonawtf http://www.receiverwelt.de/uploads/pics/28282_pic1.jpg
01:55.19sylvanaarGnarfoz yes
01:55.42sylvanaarGnarfoz you can also add them to orders you have already placed but have not yet shipped
01:56.04Gnarfozsylvanaar: I see, thanks. Wowace is out of 50€ gift cards
01:56.39GnarfozFtH|Daemona: wtf, wo haste das gefunden
01:57.21FtH|DaemonaGnarfoz i was looking for a addon card to get more than 1 additional usb header, running short of them because of "interesting addons" for my machine ;)
01:57.55sylvanaarok, i need an example of how to add to unitdropdownmenu, anyone have one
01:58.01FtH|Daemonaand before i start soldering usb-a plug (standard usb plug) to 5 wire header adapters i rather buy an pci addon card
01:58.15GnarfozFtH|Daemona: I see
01:58.50sylvanaarFtH|Daemona that fails - its not powered
01:59.05sylvanaarsay goodbye to whatever you plug it into
01:59.32Torhalsylvanaar: UnitDropDownMenu? You mean UIDropDownMenu?
01:59.39FtH|Daemonaall components are powered. they just need usb data connections
01:59.40sylvanaarUnit
01:59.47sylvanaarthe one with all the fail
02:00.28TorhalIt's a UIDropDownMenu. only places in default UI I see it is in WorldMapFrame.lua
02:00.35TorhalWhich is odd
02:00.47sylvanaarjust a sec
02:00.55sylvanaaryeah
02:01.02TorhalBut I'm guessing it has nothing to do with the unit frame dropdown
02:01.25sylvanaarwell, it is
02:01.31sylvanaarbecause I am tainting it i guess
02:02.07sylvanaarand its the unitframe dropdown menu - crap
02:02.12sylvanaarnow im confused
02:02.18TorhalEverything that touches UIDropDownMenu taints it. It's not a problem, though, unless you're trying to do a protected action in combat
02:02.21TorhalLike, setting focus
02:03.25sylvanaarunitpopup is a special case use of UIDropdownMenu
02:03.42sylvanaarand setting focus is the problem
02:04.00sylvanaaryou dont have to be in combat either
02:04.06TorhalHell, that's broken with teh default UI.
02:04.09TorhalTrue
02:04.13sylvanaaroh
02:04.24sylvanaarblames Iriel
02:04.29TorhalHehe
02:04.51sylvanaarit looks like there should be a way to add to it without tainting it
02:05.24TorhalI think Xinhuan found a way, but it couldn't be used in every case or something
02:05.25FtH|Daemonaeven standard blizzard frames taint if you try to set focus via target unitdropdown
02:06.19sylvanaarits wierd people say it sometimes work for them
02:07.12Torhalsylvanaar: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=16821
02:07.51TorhalXinhuan made a hack, not sure how well it works: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=16669
02:08.40sylvanaari dont think its a hack
02:08.47TorhalHe says it is :)
02:08.56sylvanaari think thats how its designe to be used
02:09.02sylvanaarblames iriel
02:10.35Groktar~kill iriel
02:10.35purlACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudoproton gun at iriel
02:10.52Torhalsylvanaar: Hop in #wowuidev if you wanna berate him :)
02:11.10sylvanaarwas already there
02:11.18TorhalAh
02:12.24RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/justin-bg-stats/. Justin's BG Stats. jtervay83235 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
02:54.34Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2611 RecipeDB/ARL-Engineer.lua:
02:54.36Repomuch, much more of-Ticket 807, refining the engineering database.
03:09.13Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2612 RecipeDB (4 files in 1 directory): Removed some version checks.
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04:11.42Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2613 / (2 files in 2 directories): Removed some unused local variables.
04:11.44RepoChangelog update.
04:12.52Repo10grid: 03Greltok * r1226 GridStatusAuras.lua:
04:12.54RepoTicket 160 - Fixed issues that prevented "Filter Abolished units" from working.
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04:59.01Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r224 version: GatherMate_Data: Weekly update
04:59.08Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.70 * r225 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update
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05:51.31sylvanaarMikk did you ever implement the alt/main rule in guild notes thing?
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05:53.44sylvanaari'm dreading upgrading my pc'
05:54.04sylvanaarto win7, so much work to install everything all over again
05:54.26stolenlegacysylvanaar: if you've got vista, I think it should keep most information if you update instead of reinstall
05:55.06Fiskerwho runs vista anyways?
05:55.07stolenlegacyin exchange, upgrading takes far longer than reinstalling
05:55.08sylvanaaryeah, i know - i dont want that though - it will run like crap
05:55.16stolenlegacyFisker: *raises hand*
05:55.27stolenlegacymy PC was shipped with vista and I cba to reinstall
05:55.27Fiskern00b
05:55.31sylvanaari have vista at work and on my 2nd pc
05:55.37Fiskern00b
05:55.39stolenlegacyall my other machines run ubuntu
05:55.46Fiskerbut in-place upgrade then
05:56.49sylvanaari upgraded my laptop from xp, that went really well surprisingly
05:57.48Fiskerit's cold
05:58.17sylvanaari guess i can delay until they re-release the firmware update for my SSD
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06:09.31Groktarmails Fisker to sylvanaar
06:10.20sylvanaarfilters Fisker out
06:23.29Repo10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r86 Broker_Currency.lua: --Remove debug prints
06:26.13Repo10broker-currency: 03Azethoth 0486 release * r87 : Tagging as 86 release
06:30.46Shiriksylvanaar :(
06:30.52ShirikYou consider Fisker junk?
06:38.03Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2614 ARLDatamine.lua:
06:38.05RepoIn addon:ScanToolTip(): If the left-side text is "Projectile", flag as "Ammo".
06:59.47Groktari'd reinstall on a new pc anyway
07:00.12steev3 hours ago my password was requested to be reset
07:00.50steevhrm, maybe it wasn't
07:01.18steevBe aware your password will be reset in an effort to secure your account and prevent any unauthorized access.
07:02.21Groktarhehe
07:02.22steevbe nice if they did that when they noticed the issue
07:02.29steevinstead of banning the account
07:02.56Groktarwhen i got hacked my account was locked for 5 days, then unlocked w/o any items
07:03.12Groktarand then another day after that i got the password reset
07:03.16steevthe banned part really doesn't bother me that much since it was canceled about 4 days ago
07:03.33Groktarand then two days later i got my stuff back
07:03.52steevalthough in my ticket/mail to them i explicitly stated that i'd already reset the password and login info
07:04.16steevyeah, it would be nice to get my stuff back before tuesday
07:04.21steevbut i highly doubt it
07:04.35steevand knowing my luck, death's verdict will finally drop
07:08.20Groktarmeh, make your guild bring you anyway
07:08.27Groktarat least for normal
07:08.59Groktari made mine bring in for ignis for the tank trinket when my stuff was gone
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07:38.08steevheh
07:38.35steevmaybe
07:38.40steevwe will see
07:38.55steevi was considering just sayin f it
07:40.39steevthe issue is there are so many characters with gear gone
07:43.21steevalthough i'd be okay if my pvp toon didn't have... you know, his weapons gone
07:43.33steevsince there are no pvp weapons available if you don't arena
07:49.41steevwell... at least i kept my 4 piece bonus :-P
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08:11.18Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2615 / (2 files in 2 directories): Really fix the "Off Hand" special case check
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08:16.13orionshockmorning all
08:16.58stolenlegacymorning orion
08:17.21orionshockanyone here french?
08:17.23orionshockor speak it/
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08:55.48SubdinoHi. I'm doing a cleanup round of missing "local"s in my code, and that makes me wonder about 2 things: Does it have a cost to declare a local inside a loop ? (like, would "local" keyword be evaluated at each loop ? would that local be freed between loops ?) Also, what is usualy considered better in declaring locals: C-ish, everything at scope top, or upon first variable use (except for cases falling in the first question) ?
08:56.56SubdinoAh, and a bonus question: "local a, b" or "local a; local b" ?
08:57.28orionshockSubdino: bonus: it's stylistic preference
08:57.46orionshocktho the former is easier to read
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09:09.41Subdinommh, defining a local inside a loop indeed creates a new scope... neat
09:09.42[SW]Dodgeis there still an arena rating calc bot? need to know rating needed for 350point :D
09:17.32Groktarhttp://www.wowarmory.com/arena-calculator.xml
09:17.39Groktargently pats [SW]Dodge
09:18.13[SW]Dodgeah tahanks Groktar, but found http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=249 :D
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09:25.24Repo10syncfriends (experimental): 03Subdino * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory): Global variable cleanup:
09:25.25Repo- declare local some vars which were accidentaly made globals
09:25.26Repo- move local declaration out of loops when possible
09:25.28Repo- remove all *_ACTION_NAME since they are used in only one place
09:27.08Subdinojust learned that his addon is redundant in purpose with one of tekkub
09:27.54SubdinoI guess I only risk learning things by looking at his code
09:29.55Groktarforces Subdino to look at corgrath's code
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09:31.48yoshimowhy do i have the feeling groktars tip will make the code even worse?
09:31.58yoshimo*advice
09:32.24Subdinommh... even worse ?
09:32.58yoshimoi have the feeling that corgraths code isnt beautiful at all
09:33.27Subdinome too, I hesitated asking for url :)
09:33.30Groktarbut... but... TORRENT BASED ADDON DISTRIBUTION!
09:34.07Subdinoaah, I remember
09:34.14Subdinohe has written code ?!
09:34.16Subdinothat's a news
09:34.30yoshimoim rather openminded and test new things, but its his behaviour which frightens me a bit ;)
09:34.30Groktari honestly don't know
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09:35.17Wobincorgrath's back?
09:35.39Subdinosomeone willing to push smtp servers on every user machine can't code right
09:35.45yoshimono not here, but we are talking about him behind his back wobin ;)
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09:36.05Groktaroohh
09:36.13Groktari forgot about the smtp server part
09:36.20yoshimodoes wows lua engine mind if my file has an utf8 bitordermark or not?
09:36.21Groktarwhat was the point of that again?
09:36.41Subdinoiirc it was so everyone could get addon update notices
09:36.58Subdinogranted, I don't know why an smtp *server* would allow that
09:37.29yoshimoshut up, all of you ;) dont want to read about that any longer :)
09:38.02Groktarlet's c&p the chatlog to yoshimo in pms
09:39.47yoshimoi guess it will be forwarded to /dev/null
09:40.04Subdinoeven /dev/null might reject it
09:43.07Subdinojust discovered the "set friend note" button in the regular interface
09:43.32steevwouldn't it make more sense to use something like xmpp for that?
09:43.42steev(notifications)
09:43.49steevor pubsubhubub
09:43.55steevor whatever they are calling it these days
09:47.33Groktarvotes himself king of america
09:50.34Subdinommh... is WoW multithreaded ?
09:50.43stolenlegacySubdino: don't think so
09:51.01yoshimoat least there is a line in the config.wtf which says "cores detected:4"
09:51.15stolenlegacyon vista, it only uses one core for me
09:51.24stolenlegacybut i've heard rumors it uses all of them on seven
09:51.33SubdinoI'm reading tekkub FriendsWithBenefits addon and he outputs warning message telling the user not to modify his friend list
09:51.46Subdinothis happens when runing the sync code
09:51.53Groktari heard it uses multiple cores, but badly
09:51.58Groktarso almost everything is on one core
09:52.15Subdinomaybe it uses them for things which aren't "central" functionality
09:52.44SubdinoI think I've been told that addons don't have to care about paralel execution, so I was surprised reading that
09:53.53Groktarwell, if wow has a thread dedicated exclusively to addons
09:54.04Groktarand all the addons are on it together
09:54.11Groktarthey wouldn't have to worry about it, would they?
09:54.13yoshimoi think, the wow engine might run faster, if they used my hardware in a better way
09:54.23Groktarjust a tiny bit yoshimo
09:54.46Groktarwhat do you expect from a 2003/2004 engine tho?
09:55.41SubdinoGroktar: true, but as this require more work on WoW side (sync mechanisms with addons, like message queuing) I tend to doubt
09:55.42yoshimothey can add shadows and fancy directx stuff for 3.3. They tend to make their stuff running on slow machines , so they should care
09:56.12Subdinonot that I have any reason to think they don't do what must be done, but because I have no reason to be certain of the contrary
09:56.48Subdinoyoshimo: +1
09:57.08Groktaradding shadows is probably a lot less work than multithreading
09:57.24Subdinoindeed
09:57.40yoshimoyes, but shadows only make things worse at primetime in dalaran while my cores "idle" at 15%
09:58.42stolenlegacyyoshimo: then disable them?
09:59.39yoshimowell my computer can run ultrasettings in stormpeaks and still works well in dalaran, but i still think it could be better than it is
10:00.00Groktarlotsa more stuff to draw in dalaran
10:01.02yoshimoyoure right Groktar, but you have to agree, that blizzard could improve their engine , havent you?
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10:01.24Subdinoyoshimo: +1
10:02.17Groktaryeah, they probably could
10:02.23Groktarbut i want icecrown to come sooner
10:02.36Groktarremember when they tried to redo the sound engine in 2.3?
10:02.38Groktarshudderse
10:02.43Groktaror was it 2.2?
10:02.44Groktarhrm
10:02.44yoshimoit will come sooner than a revised engine groktar ;)
10:02.52[SW]Dodgeis it possible in recount to "remove" some pages ? like if i use the < and > buttons i dont want to se for example Friendly fire or other 'useless' pages :D
10:02.59Subdinoafter wotlk I was so frustrated with framerate drops that I bought a gtx280... gained 5fps over a sli of 9600, and a bonus of many dBs (9600s were fanless, the gtx is definitely not)
10:03.40Subdinos/9600/7600/g
10:03.46Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r236 / (2 files in 2 directories): Day of the Dead!
10:03.53yoshimodidnt elsia say that you can delete modules you dont need ?
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10:20.23evlAnyone know what sibling function CooldownFrame_SetTimer is doing the actual updates?
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10:32.58TorhalSubdino: You should really use ARR instead of GPL. If you don't know anything about WoWMatrix, read up.
10:33.44Subdinoas long as they comply to copyright law and (hence) licencing terms, I really don't care
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10:34.13Subdinoand if they don't, then maybe one could ask the fsf to do something
10:34.33sb|workER WTC
10:34.33sb|workWTF
10:34.42sb|work3.3 allows quest query from the server?
10:35.09sb|work*head -> desk*
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10:41.38yoshimoit allows you to request a list of questids the toon has handed in /completed so far
10:42.26sb|workyea i just got that...
10:42.42yoshimoso whats this head desk thingy about?
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10:46.09Groktarsets fire to yoshimo and blames it on Fisker
10:46.30Repo10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Alpha4-73-g4342903 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+6 commits] (2 truncated)
10:46.32Repo4342903: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/collectinator/mainline
10:46.33Repoc166f76: In addon:MarkExclusions(): Un-commented and fixed some code so this function will actually return values.
10:46.34Repo0d99fd3: In addon:Scan(): Changed how exclusions are defined in the playerData table
10:46.35Repo9904f0b: Changed declaration style of progress_bar:Update() and the method of access for the exclusions.
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10:48.47Subdinoyoshimo: ah, that's good news !
10:49.02Repo10zzhuntar: 03Turaka * r26 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+] Added support for AddonLoader
10:49.18Fiskerslaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout
10:49.20yoshimoalways good to have someone to blame, isnt it groktar ?
10:49.26FiskerI DIDN'T KILL MY WIFE
10:49.29Subdinohas just 2 quests missing in zul'drak and can't find them
10:49.37Torhal|SleepFisker: You just sold some ice cold milk.
10:49.51SubdinoFisker: reiser, leave this body !
10:50.29Torhal|SleepNow that I've pushed those commits...Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
10:51.04yoshimoi tested the function with everyquest on the ptr, and got a lot of hidden quests i never seen before ;) and as they are changing the startareas a bit, id imagine there will be a few quests that get new ids as well
10:51.12Repo10zzhuntar: 03Turaka 04v2.5.3 * r27 : Tagging as v2.5.3
10:52.24yoshimoevery "loremaster"addon will need to filter out quests that you cant complete, like the welcome quest from the collectors edition or similar quests
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10:53.29Pneumatus+ all the quests that don't actually count
10:53.34Pneumatusclass quests, etc etc
10:54.28yoshimoi even completed "<UNUSED>"  have several "FLAG:"  and so on
10:54.40yoshimobuts intresting
10:54.57Pneumatusyeh, UNUSED is a lie
10:55.29Subdinoit's a cake ?
10:55.45yoshimoif it was a cake, it wouldnt be a lie ;)
10:56.12Pneumatusthe cake IS a lie though
10:56.17Subdinoindeed
10:57.06Subdinowould be fun to have an easter quest where you have to carry a [Weighted comanion cube] all around azeroth with the end pnj singing "This was a triumph...3
10:58.09Subdinothat, and bringing a [Garden dwarf] to area 52's rocket
10:58.14yoshimothey should mark repeatable quests in the old world with blue questicons,  the area around the bc-portal has a lot of them
10:59.53yoshimomaybe even hide the reputation turn ins, if im already exalted . or is it possible to loose rep with  og as horde?
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11:02.40Subdinosings "we're singing while there is science to do..."
11:13.34Repo10syncfriends (experimental): 03Subdino * r44 SyncFriends.lua: Separate titlecased property name from property access.
11:13.36RepoSeparate overridableOptionGroupArgs arguments from addGetSet ones.
11:14.53Repo10syncfriends (experimental): 03Subdino * r45 SyncFriends.lua:
11:14.53RepoCheck if accessors already exist before creating and binding them on class.
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11:45.46Fiskeri am having lulz
11:48.56stolenl|awayyoshimo: not currently, no
11:49.19yoshimostolenl|away, what do you refer to?
11:49.46stolenl|awayyoshimo:  or is it possible to loose rep with  og as horde?
11:50.10yoshimoah ok
11:51.03yoshimoso the quest to turnin cloth in og should be hidden ;)
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12:00.41Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2386 / (5 files in 5 directories): - Added Day of the Dead
12:09.44stolenl|awayis there a way to make aceconfig hide an entire group?
12:10.09robotuschFisker, still selling ice cold milk at serious overprize? :D
12:10.40stolenl|awayrobotusch: I do that aswell
12:10.59robotuschFusker sold some on AH for 9g99s BO >_>
12:11.31yoshimoif you have frostresistance of 260, and the paladin  shields you for 30% (dont know the spell offhand right now)  how do you calculate the total amount of absorbed/prevented dmg? which dmgreduction comes first?
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12:11.58robotuschHand of Salvation?
12:12.21yoshimoi though he was talking about groups not single players but i might be wrong here
12:12.40stolenlegacyyoshimo: I assume resistance comes first, then the unresisted damage is reduced
12:13.11robotuschoh, Divine Sacrifice?
12:15.03yoshimomost likely yes
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12:25.12Fiskeryarr robotusch
12:25.19Fiskersold another as well ;3
12:25.26Fiskerunfortunately Bibi is screwing me over
12:25.29Fiskerdamn Bibi and his news
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12:27.55yoshimowhich news?
12:29.57Fisker"Buy the Simple Flour from any cooking supplies NPC (just take the one next to the trainer if you don't know where they are) and Ice Cold Milk from most Innkeeper and Food/Drink vendors."
12:29.58Fisker:(
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13:02.45Fisker~seen zeksie
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13:25.29RepoMost newly added options from the last few revisions moved to "Advanced". Restored old buff blacklist to "Default".
13:43.09KriLL3could someone tell me wtf is going on here: http://albums.kimag.es/albums/krill3/96500859.jpg ? what addon/lib is broken and how do I fix it?
13:43.57CrazyBennygot the error aswell, but dont seem to miss any functionality
13:44.04ZhinjioKriLL3: you might want to address that question to #norganna
13:44.10ZhinjioKriLL3: BUT....
13:44.52ZhinjioKriLL3: What CrazyBenny said... I get the same error. There is a setting, I think I might be ableto find that will make the error go away. Something about pre-fetching scan data or something.
13:44.56Zhinjiobut I don't remember what it is.
13:45.14Zhinjioit has somethign to do with load order. I reported the error a long while back, but it was never fixed.
13:45.29Zhinjio(assuming its the same problem)
13:46.24yoshimothe "retrieve all data at once" button?
13:47.05KriLL3Zhinjio: errm well, what addon/lib is doing it to begin with?
13:47.13KriLL3can't make heads or tails of that thing
13:47.17Zhinjioauctioneer has a library called ntiphelper
13:47.25Zhinjiothats the offending article.
13:47.34[Ammo]I just read that as nipplehelper
13:47.35Zhinjioyoshimo: no... but if you give me a few minutes, I'll jump in game and find it.
13:47.35KriLL3what does it do? can I turn it off?
13:47.36[Ammo]urgh
13:47.43ZhinjioKriLL3: no
13:48.25KriLL3hmm, something is horribly broken with itemrack, get 65 errors and it blocks party joins and autobar
13:49.46Subdinoabout errors, I can't read the first entry in bliz' lua error log, going up the list (of length n) goes: 4, 3, 2, 2, n, n-1, ...
13:52.34yoshimoi always used swatter to collect lua errors
13:53.17Zhinjiook, testing the setting now... one moment.
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13:54.42Zhinjioyup, I was right.
13:54.55Zhinjioon the settings for auctioneer, check "Force Load of Scan Data" in the general setting
13:54.59Zhinjioand reload
13:55.00Zhinjioerror should go away
13:55.19Zhinjiovoila.
13:56.35Zhinjioyoshimo: catch that? ^^
13:56.42ZhinjioKriLL3: ^^
13:57.09KriLL3how do I get to the settings?
13:57.27yoshimoi did read that, yes
13:57.42Zhinjioeasiest way is the "Configure" button at the top of the auction panel
13:57.45KriLL3<PROTECTED>
13:58.03KriLL3in dalaran, hs on cooldown
13:58.18Zhinjioif you're running the slidebar part of auctioneer (the little yellow handle on the side of the screen), then hover that, and it'll be the coins icon
13:58.38KriLL3I've killed that thing, never ever use it and it tends to show randomly
13:59.02Zhinjiothen the aforementioned Configure button is the way
13:59.08KriLL3ah, /auc config
13:59.10ZhinjioI don't know the /-cmds well enough to say
13:59.12Zhinjiook
13:59.13Zhinjiogood
13:59.21KriLL3<PROTECTED>
13:59.35yoshimoi use auctioneer , but mostly for the batchposting and the marketprices , but there is a lot more, which could make me a lot of money, if i knew how to use it ;)
13:59.56yoshimoi need a "using auctioneer  for dummys"
14:00.02Zhinjiohe
14:00.03Zhinjioheh
14:00.06Zhinjioand I agree with you, btw.
14:00.17KriLL3yeah, and it has other stuff like enchanting spamming etc, wish there was a lighter version that just improves that AH, don't need the rest
14:00.21ZhinjioI've been giving auctionator a try, but it currently lacks batch posting
14:01.04KriLL3error still there :\
14:01.13Zhinjioweird.
14:01.16Zhinjioit went away on mine.
14:01.18Zhinjioyou did a reload?
14:01.25KriLL3I relogged
14:01.33Zhinjiowell, I don't know then. sorry
14:01.39Zhinjioask in #norganna-dev
14:01.41KriLL3np, doesn't seem to do anything
14:01.42Zhinjiothey might be able to help
14:01.45yoshimoask the guys that created it  ;)
14:02.39KriLL3is there an addon that shows other items for that slot when hovering an item in your character pane? that's the reason I kept itemrack, but now it's horribly broken
14:02.58stolenlegacyKriLL3: a) it's not broken for me b) that's already in the default UI
14:03.06stolenlegacyjust enable the blizzard equipment manager
14:03.10KriLL3I have
14:03.11yoshimowasnt it the alt-key?
14:03.15KriLL3and no that's not part of it
14:03.18stolenlegacyyoshimo: yeah, exactly
14:03.22stolenlegacypress alt while hovering
14:03.26KriLL3ah
14:03.30KriLL3thanks
14:03.47KriLL3is that documented somewhere?
14:03.59yoshimokeybindings maybe
14:04.09KriLL3goes to look in his vanilla manual =P
14:04.49Zhinjioyoshimo: did you try that setting? did the error go away for you?
14:06.21KriLL3is there a way to show helm/cloak on different sets etc? if there isn't it would be nice if there was some addon out there that was similar to itemrack but uses the stock API but just enhances it, instead of replacing it
14:06.30PneumatusBibi fails :<
14:06.58ZhinjioKriLL3: try outfitter?
14:07.10Zhinjiooutfitter does all of that as well
14:07.21KriLL3but does it replace the stock gear API?
14:07.34KriLL3I've used wardrobe in the past, and it's similar also
14:07.35ZhinjioI'm not sure what that means, exactly
14:07.46Pneumatusit can save its sets serverside, if thats what you mean
14:07.54Pneumatussurely it doesnt matter how it achieves something, as long as it does it
14:08.09yoshimoZhinjio, 1) i never had the error you had with auctioneer 2) im not able to login right now
14:08.18KriLL3Pneumatus: well just feels better to improve on something blizz has in the game, instead of replacing it
14:08.26Zhinjioyoshimo: oh, I thought you said you had it.
14:08.33Pneumatusunless what blizz has is completely substandard for what you want
14:08.41Pneumatuswhich is largely the case
14:08.52ZhinjioKriLL3: blizzard sets the API, bthey can't change it. if you're asking can you still drag and drop onto your character panel, you can.
14:09.17yoshimobut it might be better to use some small addons to enhance the blizzequipmentmanager instead of using outfitter or similiar things
14:09.27Zhinjionods.
14:09.34KriLL3yoshimo: that's the gist of that I tried to say
14:09.54Zhinjiothats possible. I use many/most of outfitter's features, so its a good fit for me.
14:11.43Pneumatusfunny how no one says the same about blizzards combat text :)
14:12.03yoshimoyou mean blizzard sct vs, parrot/msbt?
14:12.42KriLL3I used "scrolling combat text" until blizz added their own
14:12.47KriLL3which I guess is based on that
14:12.51Pneumatusi mean why bother with some addon that hacks blizz's terribad combat text to add features when it's better to replace it with parrot/mbst/sct
14:12.56ansikwhy i have reward-points only for one addon?
14:13.44yoshimois it true, that the builtin sct is a complete mess?
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14:14.13KriLL3works for me, guess people that want stuff it doesn't show or other stuff hate it though
14:14.17Pneumatusin short yes, in long yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
14:15.13KriLL3Pneumatus: you mean code/technically wise rather than features/use?
14:15.27Pneumatuseverything, it's terrible period
14:15.48yoshimodoes the builtin sct show abilitiecooldowns and trinketprocs?
14:15.57KriLL3fine for me, but I used SCT before, and they seem more or less identical
14:16.29yoshimothe blizz sct does show the dmg/heal right above the targets which we cant, doesnt it? ;)
14:18.44yoshimowhy hate? just turn it off and use a replacement ;)
14:19.47Pneumatushmm, are the tales of monkey island chapters stupidly expensive in all contries on steam, or just in the UK
14:20.03KriLL3you can buy em all for a slightly cheaper price
14:20.17Pneumatuseach chapter is £24.99 which i guess is probably about 40USD
14:20.33Pneumatusowait
14:20.34KriLL3takes about 20min to get through each
14:20.46Pneumatusso you buy one chapter and it gives you them all
14:21.01Pneumatusi guess that makes more sense
14:21.02KriLL3eh?
14:21.19Pneumatuscan't buy them individually here by the looks of it
14:21.21KriLL3the deal I mentioned was some special to buy em all, which cost a lot more, but less total
14:21.25KriLL3ah
14:21.44KriLL3there are 4 out, is that all of them?
14:21.58KriLL3guess if they're all out there is no real reason to sell em one by one anymore
14:21.58yoshimodo we know enough about the rewarpointalgorithm to tell which conditions need to be met to earn 7.5 points a day?
14:22.12Pneumatusthe package on steam that i see has 5 chapters, one not released till this month
14:22.18KriLL3ah
14:22.44Pneumatusyoshimo: afaik its basically related to CC install base
14:23.08Pneumatusaka the popularity figure
14:23.47yoshimoso people which download it directly on the site dont count?
14:23.50Pneumatushttp://store.steampowered.com/sub/1837/ in the UK has no individual prices, just £24.99 for the pack
14:24.00KriLL3I'm allergic to steam, so I don't know current deals
14:24.21KriLL3is there a non steam version to get it online?
14:24.42Pneumatusyoshimo: obviously only a few people know the actual answer but i seem to recall them saying they couldn't accurately attribute downloads to a viable rating
14:24.47Pneumatusto stop people gaming the system
14:25.00PneumatusKriLL3: think it's only been released through steam
14:25.10KriLL3damn
14:26.40yoshimowhy the hell, does the curse client want to start dxdiag?
14:27.00Pneumatusyoshimo: something to do with the hardware graphics rendering mode probably
14:27.42KriLL3I turned off the hardware acceleration, don't see why it would need it
14:27.54KriLL3is it the flashy start thing that uses it?
14:29.46Pneumatusanyone got any experience with win7 on a netbook?
14:30.13KriLL3heard it runs well, but no personally I don't
14:31.07Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r249 core.lua: fix bug in core.lua when removing a quest from the questlog
14:31.12Pneumatuswell, they are shipping netbooks with win7 starter but everyone is doing stock clearances on their old XP netbooks.. can't buy win7 starter so it would have to have home premium
14:32.31WobinPneumatus, Apparently it works great
14:32.35KriLL3borrow/pirate a disc, you can run it 30 days *3 for free if you need to test it before buying
14:32.41WobinI'm going to load a copy onto mine
14:32.47KriLL3then just put in your bought key and it works
14:33.07KriLL3just make sure to install the version you'll buy
14:33.33Zhinjiowill be getting a netbook for his mom in a week or so, and will be putting XP on it, personally.
14:33.54KriLL3cheapest way to get it currently are the OEM versions, they don't include support (who calls MS anyway?) and they're supposedly meant for system builders, but no one including MS cares
14:34.06KriLL3Zhinjio: why? :(
14:34.10Pneumatuswell, OEM copies are locked to hardware once they are activated too
14:34.15Zhinjiomemory
14:34.21KriLL3yeah, but you can unlock it
14:34.21sylvanaari got the family pack
14:34.27KriLL3Zhinjio: that doesn't make sense
14:34.49Pneumatusi can't decide if i should buy a netbook or spend a little more and get a 10/11" laptop with a proper processor though
14:34.50ZhinjioI'm sorry you feel that way.
14:35.06KriLL37 runs fine on 1GB of ram, and works on 512 though I wouldn't recommend it
14:35.10KriLL3same as XP
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14:35.36sylvanaari put 7 on my old laptop i bought in 2003
14:35.41sylvanaarit runs faster
14:36.05KriLL3people are putting it on old rust buckets and it runs fine
14:36.22sylvanaarcourse, it might be because its a fresh install of the os - but - thats really beside the point
14:36.39KriLL3no real reason to stick with XP anymore imo, well unless you use some really weird ancient software, in which point you really should stop using that
14:37.05KriLL3knows a couple of companies that use IE6 only ActiveX "intranets"
14:37.07KriLL3vomits
14:37.13Zhinjiounrelated, I did read some lengthy diatribe about 7 not supporting desktop spanning yet
14:37.21Zhinjionot that I use it, but that might be one reason
14:37.23KriLL3desktop spanning?
14:37.37KriLL3you man putting one wallpaper across 2 screens?
14:37.40Pneumatusgot my eyes on an acer 11.6" laptop w/ SU4100, 3gb ram and win7, but can't decide if i want that or a netbook
14:37.57Zhinjiowell, thats one side effect of spanning, yes
14:38.10KriLL3I don't get it
14:38.30KriLL3you can expand the desktop to more than one monitor, if that's what you're asking, or do you mean treat it all as a single monitor?
14:38.37Zhinjioyou basically make it think at a hardware interface layer that you have one 2880x1200 monitor instead of two
14:38.41Zhinjiothe latter
14:38.48KriLL3XP can't do that can it?
14:38.51Zhinjioyes, it can
14:39.03sylvanaarso can vista and 7
14:39.28Wobinlemme try
14:39.29Zhinjiosylvanaar: not yet. it looks like it won't be present until wddm 2.0, if at all
14:39.39ZhinjioI can point you to articles, if you'd like.
14:39.59sylvanaarplease do
14:40.00KriLL3don't see what you'd use that for though, makes it impossible to use one app per monitor which is what I prefer to do
14:40.20ZhinjioKriLL3: I have friends who want to have wow natively across more than one screen, for example.
14:40.28Fiskeri'd want desktop spanning
14:40.33KriLL3that can be done using software though
14:40.48FiskerAs long as some apps can stay on one monitor
14:41.03FiskerJust want the taskbar and certain applications behave like that
14:41.09KriLL3that's not possible
14:41.14WobinIf the bezel wasn't in the way, I'd like that... kinda
14:41.23KriLL3there are however solutions for making games span more than one monitor
14:41.44KriLL3SoftTH is what I use
14:41.44WobinYou can stretch the window across monitors
14:41.47Wobinif you really wanted to
14:41.51KriLL3that's not what I mean
14:42.05KriLL3there is specialized software meant to make games run on more than one monitor
14:42.05Wobinyeah, just offering possible solutions =)
14:42.18Wobinor alternatives
14:42.27KriLL3SoftTH is great, use it to play just about any DX9/10 game across 3 screens
14:42.44KriLL3burnout paradise is especially nice ultra wide
14:43.06yoshimomhmm my gtx275  wont have enought power to run more than one screen
14:43.17KriLL3errm, it can run 2
14:43.30KriLL3my GTX260 runs 3 fine
14:44.53KriLL3I run 2 graphics cards, GTX260 + 8500gt, the 8500 is just there to power 2 screens, but it doesn't render while gaming, it just displays what the 260 renders
14:45.39KriLL3the 260 is enough to get smooth FPS in almost all games at 5040x1050 (1680x1050*3)
14:46.09KriLL3anything short of crysis is smooth
14:46.40ZhinjioI'm not finding any official sources at the moment, but from what I see spread across 2 dozen different beta forums, they made architectural changes that prevent spanning at the wddm layer. they are trying to push the graphics driver companies to implement the changes at their side, but they are either delaying, having trouble, or unable to do so.
14:46.49Zhinjiospanning is not currently supported on windows 7 or vista.
14:47.01Zhinjiogoogle it, you'll see the discussions yourself.
14:47.12KriLL3well that's not nice, but I don't personally need it
14:47.16Zhinjioright
14:47.21ZhinjioI don't use it either, but I know people that do
14:47.22KriLL3SoftTH does it for me for gaming
14:47.39KriLL3and Ultramon can expand windows to the complete screen space
14:47.40WobinI don't quite get how you can play with a bezel down the middle of your view =)
14:47.55KriLL3Wobin: I game on 3 horizontal screens
14:47.59KriLL3no bezel in the middle
14:48.02WobinOh.
14:48.06WobinI don't have the deskspace for that
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14:48.12FiskerI just sold a liter of ice cold milk
14:48.19KriLL3get arms, hang em off the side ;)
14:48.21Wobinor the mouse freedom to span
14:48.31WobinFisker, Just 999 more litres!
14:48.48KriLL3Fisker: wait, wouldn't it be warm?
14:49.01WobinFisker takes his dairy refridgeration seriously
14:49.13KriLL3Fisker stands in a fridge?
14:49.31Wobinwell it'd have to be a big walk in dealie
14:49.37Wobinsince he's dealing with a thousand litres
14:50.42KriLL3bah, worgen won't need a knife to skin, why doesn't my feral forms have the same thing? :(
14:51.00Fiskerwell it's 30g on ice cold milk today
14:51.11KriLL3why?
14:51.29Fiskerbecause people are too stupid to realize there's an ice cold milk vendor next to the auction house?
14:51.33KriLL3I know it's needed for that bread of the dead, but you can buy it from any vendor
14:51.36KriLL3ah
14:51.42KriLL3hurrah for stupid people
14:53.56KriLL3same as small eggs during xmas for eggnogg
14:57.41Fiskeri find that somewhat acceptable :P
14:57.50Fiskeratleast you have to go to like thunderbluff and farm rocs
14:57.51Fisker;(
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15:03.56KriLL3well sure, but 50g per stack etc? naw...
15:05.06KriLL3damnit, been pvping for hours on end and this temp chair I use is way too high, got my elbow at an odd angle, hurts like **** now
15:05.29Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou 043.2 beta 26 * r250 : tag as 3.2 beta 26
15:05.38Fiskeroh
15:05.42Fiskernever been that expensive here :P
15:05.50Fiskerusually been like 5-10g to do the quest
15:05.54KriLL3seen it at a lot more than that
15:06.00KriLL3seen stacks for 100g
15:06.10KriLL3like 5 stacks what's needed for the quest
15:07.36sylvanaarok, i get it, Full-Screen mode spanning doesnt work
15:08.13Fiskeroh my god
15:08.17FiskerBattle.net has been hacked
15:08.30Pneumatusscreenshots or it didnt happen
15:08.35Zhinjiosylvanaar: yes. Sorry if I didn't describe it well enough.
15:08.40FiskerBecause according to this user Battle.net must've been hacked because only his battle.net account was compromised not his other WoW accounts
15:08.53FiskerI think that Blizzard has definitely be hacked
15:08.56sylvanaarbut desktop spanning does
15:09.12Zhinjio"extending the desktop" works.
15:09.13KriLL3Fisker: one user?
15:09.19Fiskerand the hackers stole unusable hashes (which can't translate into a password) and skipped over all the personal information!
15:09.31FiskerAnd then they hacked said hashes in a few days
15:09.35sylvanaarwhat about windowed maximized on an extended desktop
15:09.40FiskerI think this variant is more likely than bad account security
15:09.45Fisker/trollface
15:10.06Zhinjiosylvanaar: i've tried that in wow on xp, doesn't work for me.
15:10.17Zhinjiodon't know if that has changed in 7
15:10.28SubdinoFisker: source ?
15:11.08Fiskerno rly?
15:11.22Fiskerhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=11155933681&sid=1
15:13.23Subdinommh
15:13.41Subdino"correlation is not causation"
15:14.55Subdinothough, by having authentication mechanisms in 2 places (wow auth and bnet auth) they are multiplying the chances of a problem, to return an argument an official used in that thread against account sharing
15:16.06Fiskerhow's that? :o
15:17.24Subdinoit's exactly the same: more machines to administrate, more services to administrate, more vulnerabilities
15:18.04FiskerThat's only from a blizzard standpoint though
15:18.09FiskerFrom a user standpoint it's the same
15:18.40Subdinonot sure
15:18.55SubdinoI believe that my (migrated) account auth info remains on wow auth servers
15:19.13Subdinoie, the old auth info
15:20.48Fiskeri don't see the issue
15:21.28Stanzillahttp://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=6034 /facepalm
15:21.31Fiskerand i also doubt that's how it works
15:22.47Subdinothe username change makes me belive so
15:23.09FiskerStanzilla
15:23.16FiskerPro: Windows 7 is Awesome
15:23.23FiskerCon: Ubuntu is not
15:24.32yoshimoi like ubuntu
15:24.55FiskerFUK YOO YOSHIMO
15:25.13stolenlegacyrunning seven on my gaming pc and ubuntu on my work box
15:27.07Subdinoit's quite funny that physical resource (cd) is considered easier to find than a freely-downloadable iso... also, I do believe that "burning an iso" is something one learns at 14~16
15:28.45Pneumatusi dunno, when i was 14~16 you had to pay for cd burning software
15:29.15Subdinodidn't they come on burned disks aswel ? :p
15:29.49StanzillaFisker: it's like the shittiest test ever
15:29.54Stanzillait's not even a test
15:29.57Stanzillaits just bullshit
15:30.57Pneumatusmy first cd writer cost a fortune :<
15:31.56FiskerSubdino and you can probably do the USB-boot thingy as well
15:32.03Fiskerwhich beats burning an iso
15:32.12Subdinoright
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15:32.54SubdinoI believe hardware which don't boot on usb can't run win7 either, to stay in article spirit
15:36.48stolenlegacyI installed win7 from usb
15:36.50stolenlegacywas far faster
15:36.54stolenlegacythan installing from disk
15:46.33yoshimohow much space das win 7 require on the usb stick?
15:46.39yoshimo*does
15:47.07stolenlegacydunno, it fit easily on my 16gig
15:47.31stolenlegacysimply format as fat32 with one partition, set that one as primary, unpack iso, doen
15:47.32nevcairielthe image is about 3gb
15:47.34stolenlegacydone*
15:47.48stolenlegacyI think it doesn't work if formatted as ntfs
15:47.52nevcairielyou could also just use the tool by MS to create a bootable usb stick
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16:25.01ansikwhich access to project have role "Translator"?
16:25.04ArcharodimDoes anyone already reported to Blizzard that their new Lua error handler is completely broken and useless?
16:27.05nevcairielcant be more useless then the message() box before .P
16:27.22Archarodimno it's worse actually
16:27.39Archarodimyou don't even have the message now
16:28.04Archarodimit just freeze wow because there are errors in their error handling code...
16:28.15Archarodimso you have an infinite loop...
16:28.43stolenlegacy<PROTECTED>
16:28.43stolenlegacy...ns\Blizzard_AchievementUI\Blizzard_AchievementUI.lua:566: in function `AchievementFrameComparison_UpdateStatusBars':
16:28.43stolenlegacy...ns\Blizzard_AchievementUI\Blizzard_AchievementUI.lua:2374: in function <...ns\Blizzard_AchievementUI\Blizzard_AchievementUI.lua:2371>:
16:28.43stolenlegacy<PROTECTED>
16:28.47stolenlegacyanyone else getting this one?
16:29.45Archarodimto be more precise, their new error handler crashes when the errors happen at loading time
16:29.56Archarodimor just don't report them at all...
16:29.58Subdinostolenlegacy: at least, as I said a bit earlier, in some cases I can't see the first error
16:30.20Subdinoah, then that's probably what I encounter
16:32.18ansikcan anybody translate to esMX?
16:32.28ansikand esES
16:32.42ansikhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/fubar_repafu/localization/
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16:43.31Repo10broker-calendar: 03CrazyBenny * r20 / (2 files in 1 directory): last bugfixes (hopefully)
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16:50.44ansikcan somebody approve project and fix svn-repo?
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16:55.14Fisker6 and counting
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17:15.15Mikkansik: ummm FuBar?
17:15.27ansikMikk: yes
17:15.29Mikkwhy?
17:15.42ansikwhat why? -)
17:16.03Mikkit's not as if FuBar is maintained
17:16.11Mikksince "everything" switched to LDB feeds
17:16.28ansiki don't use LDB, i use FuBar :-)
17:17.07Repo10syncfriends (experimental): 03Subdino * r48 SyncFriends.lua: Add initial note synchronisation support.
17:17.12fewynwell get used to using ldb =p
17:17.24fewyni switched to chocolate bar as my display
17:17.51fewynand everything pretty much that you had for fubar has a broker alternative
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17:19.40mitchnullansik: take a look at Bazooka :)
17:21.08mitchnull@describe Bazooka
17:21.10Repomitchnull: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bazooka/. Bazooka. Data Broker Display similar to FuBar
17:22.21Fiskerldb ftw
17:23.07sztanpetyea its great, you can configure your feeds in two places!
17:24.40FiskerWhat's so great about that?
17:25.16sztanpetno idea, thats what ldb plugins do
17:25.42Fiskerno it's not
17:25.53sztanpethow come
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17:26.26Fiskerldb enables you to have different and several outputs
17:27.35sztanpetand you can configure them 1) in your ldb display plugin to configure where to show it, show the text/icon or not, and other things 2) in the addon itself configuring other things
17:28.37FiskerAnd your wording of it = the only thing they do
17:33.02nevcairielMikk: we should really not approve fubar stuff anymore :P
17:34.27Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r378 / (2 files in 1 directory): blacklist update
17:38.15Gnarfoznevcairiel: right... :P
17:38.58Fiskerslaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout
17:38.58ansikbroker addons not work with fubar :-)
17:39.18Gnarfozobviously.
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17:39.34Fiskerldb*
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17:41.20ansikwhat do, if addon-name exist. but addon don't work perfect and don't updates? :-)
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17:43.10Gnarfozfind another name
17:43.23Gnarfozor: try taking the project over, if you can reach the author
17:43.33Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v3.6.0.3 * r379 : Tagging as v3.6.0.3
17:45.40yoshimoamsol. do you know broker2fubar and fubar2broker?
17:45.43yoshimoansik
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17:56.29Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r380 / (2 files in 1 directory): blacklist update
17:57.25Gnarfozyoshimo: irrelevant, really, both are crutches. :P
17:58.41Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v3.6.0.4 * r381 : Tagging as v3.6.0.4
17:58.42yoshimoyeah i know
18:01.13Torhalansik: http://wiki.github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/addons-using-ldb
18:01.14TorhalThere.
18:01.28TorhalPlus, there's search on WoWI and Curse under the Databroker category
18:01.35TorhalFuBar == Dead.
18:01.48nevcairielSadly people won't let it just die
18:01.54nevcairielif it breaks someone will commit a fix <.<
18:02.02TorhalLock the damn repo, IMHO.
18:02.44nevcairielwe should clean out some of the old techs with 4.0
18:02.45MysticalOSi sitll use fubar cause there aren't any good guild/friend broker plugins yet
18:02.52nevcairieli hope they do something big to the UI again
18:03.01MysticalOSguildfu and friendsfu have far more intuitive UIs still than anything i've seen on titan or anything else
18:03.51mitchnullmeh, the recent changes to AceConfigDialog and friends broke my nice config layout :(
18:04.04Torhalmitchnull: Reset-to-top?
18:04.38mitchnullnot that one (at least didn't check that
18:04.50mitchnullyeah, that too :(
18:05.11mitchnullbut also there's less space inside a group, so now 2 sliders don't fit in one row :(
18:05.22mitchnullbet it was ammo breaking the thing :)
18:06.10Torhalmitchnull: BTW: Using SetPoint() with the bars only works for the session - the layout info isn't saved.
18:06.47mitchnulltorhal: you mean manually/externally calling SetPoint() on the bar's frame?
18:06.53Torhalmitchnull: Yup.
18:07.05mitchnullif so, then it's OK. you shouldn't be doing that :)
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18:07.27Torhalmitchnull: I want them to line up perfectly :P
18:07.36TorhalI have three bars at the bottom of my screen
18:07.46mitchnulllemme see if you can call something to store the pos
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18:07.57TorhalOnDragStop is what does it
18:08.24TorhalSo I anchored with SetPoint then was VERY careful dragging side-to-side :)
18:08.42mitchnullbtw, the bottom bars should be set up using "tweak bottom position"
18:08.54mitchnullwhy do you need setopinting them?
18:09.12mitchnullanchor to bottom, set tweaks to line up correctly
18:10.41Torhalmitchnull: I didn't see "tweak". The very bottom bar anchored to the bottom of the screen perfectly and I just anchored the second to it and the first to it
18:10.52TorhalI'll look when I'm in WoW again
18:12.44mitchnulltorhal: at the bottom of the bar options, "tweak anchor points : left / right / top / bottom, set bottom to the width of Bar1 (assuming Bar1 should be the bottom one, and you're setting up Bar2)
18:13.25mitchnullalso, do attach to bottom (not "none") as 1) tweaks only work for attached bars, and 2) the jostle stuff also works only for attached bars
18:15.13mitchnullalso, you might have to enter negative values, I'm not sure about the orientation of the coordinate system
18:15.29Repo10fubar_epgp: 03ansiik * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): init new
18:15.32Ingelaorionshock thanks for cooldown cursor thing, fucking imba shit <3
18:17.38Repo10fubar_epgp: 03ansiik * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): init new
18:18.36Repo10fubar_epgp: 03ansiik * r4 Libs/: init new
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18:23.33mitchnullso, what is the latest working version of AceConfig* ?
18:23.56nevcairielHEAD is always working
18:24.08mitchnullwell, it's not
18:24.16nevcairielsure it is
18:24.26mitchnullscrollview or whatnot is completely broken on HEAD
18:24.35nevcairielits not
18:24.50mitchnullok, how do I stop it from jumping to top then?
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18:25.01nevcairieldisable whatever broken addon you have
18:25.04nevcairielits working perfectly for me
18:25.14nevcairieland for others
18:25.37mitchnullwell, it doesn't work in my addon...
18:25.53mitchnullI could be doing something wrong of course, but it did work before I updated
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18:29.34mitchnullwell, just checked, doesn't work in any addon that has Blizz-options integrated options with a scrollbar
18:30.00mitchnull(tomtom, castbars, all of my addons)
18:30.12mitchnullso either "everyone else but nev" is stupid, or the other way around :)
18:30.33mitchnullor you just don't tell others how to do stuff to not mess up the scrolling thing
18:30.51Pneumatusyou mean open to category?
18:31.02Pneumatuscausing it not to open to your addon category?
18:31.16Pneumatusor something else?
18:31.20mitchnullsomething else
18:31.46mitchnullwhenever you set an uption that's inside a scrolling view (in the options panel), the view gets reset to top position
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18:32.49mitchnullnev: it doesn't work in BT4 either, just fyi...
18:33.42mitchnullBars -> Bar1 -> Visibility -> scroll to bottom, click that thing
18:33.56mitchnull(use custom condition toggle)
18:34.12Pneumatusheh, just did an acedb profile delete which was at the bottom of a scrollframe and it scrolled to the top
18:34.15Pneumatusis that what you mean?
18:34.50mitchnullyes
18:36.17Repo10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r873 AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-ScrollFrame.lua:
18:36.19RepoAceGUI-3.0: ScrollFrame: Change call order in the release function to make sure the scrollvalue in the status table is not touched after releasing the widget
18:36.21nevcairieltry that, maybe it helps :P
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18:38.59nevcairielit can't be happening to many people, since i never saw a ticket about it
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18:39.56Pneumatusmost people probably have LBBO which makes the frame stupidly huge anyway, or dont notice it, or don't care, or assume that's desired behaviour
18:39.57Pneumatusidk
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18:43.55nevcairieli dont think that many people have LBBO
18:44.33nevcairielits a failed design anyway, you can fit pretty complex options in there if you just try hard enough
18:44.39nevcairielwithout resizing
18:45.26Gnarfozanyone know where the auto-AFK mechanism is implemented? is that C-side?
18:45.38nevcairielit is
18:45.43yoshimoyes it is
18:45.49Gnarfozbut it uses DEFAULT_AFK_MESSAGE, right?
18:45.58Gnarfozor is that just for /afk without parameters
18:46.09nevcairielwho knows
18:46.09Gnarfoz(yes I could wait 5 minutes and find out)
18:46.13nevcairielnever tried changing it
18:46.29yoshimowhats the timer for logout?
18:46.34Gnarfoz25 minutes, afaik
18:46.39mitchnullnev: fixed it
18:46.40Gnarfoz5 to go afk, 20min after that
18:46.40nevcairiel30 or so
18:47.05nevcairieli've always rememberd it as being half an hour, could be 25 at that :P
18:47.14mitchnullnev: also, there's a thread about it on wowace forums
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18:47.28nevcairieli don't usually read random threads
18:47.32Gnarfozthinking of at least putting a line in my CustomStuff addon for the default afk message, if I'm not un-lazy enough to make it an actual addon
18:48.19nevcairielOr if i do, i forget about them until someone tickets them
18:48.31Pneumatusheh, customstuff addon
18:48.36Pneumatusive got one of those too :<
18:48.45nevcairielNevMod ftw
18:48.49nevcairielmine even contains my own chat mod
18:49.14Pneumatusmine only does 2 things, more fonts into LSM and better buff timers
18:49.53nevcairieli have a RepairAndSell logic in it, auto-repair and grey-selling
18:50.04nevcairieland moving the buffs
18:50.10Pneumatusi still use automaton for that
18:50.13nevcairieland the chat stuff
18:50.49nevcairieli ripped out buff timers some day
18:52.07Pneumatusi just wrote my own SecondsToTimeAbbrev
18:52.17Pneumatusidk if theres a 'proper' way of doing it
18:52.57nevcairielthats what i used to do, maybe it tainted too much back then
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18:53.10Pneumatusyeh i think they fixed the taint
18:53.23Pneumatuswell, they did
18:53.30Pneumatusas my replacement doesnt taint :)
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18:56.41MikkEh, "Changes Required" refuses to happen
18:57.07MikkIn admin approval queue
18:57.08TorhalMikk: Refuses to happen?
18:57.21nevcairielMikk: did you write a text? :P
18:57.25MikkYes I did
18:57.36TorhalPaste it here, I'll do it. It's been working for me.
18:57.47Mikkswitches browsers
18:58.06nevcairielI've had some weird performance issues with some of the editboxes on wowace lately
18:58.12nevcairielJS is going nuts on there
18:58.30TorhalI've had to reload the page several times on occasion to get the "Admin Actions" text to appear.
18:58.46nevcairielstupid web 2.0 shit, who invented that :P
18:58.54MikkOh wait I probably didn't checkmark the addon
18:59.10TorhalMikk: PEBKAC happens.
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19:00.21MikkBah, stupid UI. Shouldn't allow me to click "Moderate" when it does nothing :P
19:02.07nevcairieli should write myself a new UI using the apikey to push commands out :P
19:02.23MikkHaha
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19:02.49nevcairielI wonder if i can use the apikey on the default website to get around login
19:03.17nevcairielmy works proxy blocks curse.com, but not wowace.com .. but since the stupid auth server is a curse.com domain, i can't login <.<
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19:05.11mitchnullnev: is there any way to make stuff take less space in AceConfigDialog? (either the tabbed groups or the "normal width" elements like sliders, dropdowns)
19:05.31nevcairieluse width=half? :P
19:05.35mitchnullnev: the recent changes made the groups take more space or something 'cos now I can't put two sliders side-by-side
19:05.52nevcairielother options manage to have two controls next to each other
19:06.08mitchnullyeah, if they're not inside a group (like tab)
19:06.20nevcairieleven in groups
19:06.29mitchnull(again, sepaking about the Blizz options panel, with default size)
19:06.51Mikknevcairiel: i have a feeling there might be a rounding problem
19:07.07Mikki've seen it before
19:07.28Mikkonce in a blue moon, half width things refuse to go 2 on a line
19:07.45Mikktwitch the UI scale a notch and they pop back again
19:08.06Mikkor hm i dunno about the UI scae
19:08.06mitchnullnev: also, scrollbar there (in the group)
19:08.21Mikkbut nudging the window size (if not fixed) does it
19:08.44Torhalhereby declares today to be "Drive Nevcariel Mad Day".
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19:09.10nevcairielhm thats [Ammo]'s fault then, for increasing the margins, so that it just looks like blizzard :P
19:09.24Mikknah, it's been around for ages
19:09.44nevcairielwell he did steal about 12px from every frame
19:09.58nevcairieler, from the blizzgroup frames, i mean
19:10.03mitchnullgive my pixels back! :)
19:10.15Mikkhumhum
19:10.28nevcairielwonder if those make the difference
19:10.28Mikkoh yeah they're fixed size by default
19:10.29nevcairieltests
19:10.32Mikkaren't they
19:10.39Mikk170 pixels or summat
19:11.02nevcairieli've been thinking it would be kinda cool to have a smarter layout, like a html table
19:11.05nevcairieldefine rows and cols
19:11.26nevcairielwith dynamicly resizing widgets
19:11.31nevcairielbut thats too much for ACD tables i guess
19:11.38Mikkya
19:11.57Mikktoo OCD for ACD even ;)
19:12.17nevcairielit would be relatively easy on the implementation side of things in AceGUI
19:14.29mitchnullwell,at least it could realize that it'd look nicer to shrink 2 widgets a bit instead of using only one for the row and leave a huge empty space after that :(
19:15.09Mikkthat'd be because of ammo/vhaar ocd
19:15.16MikkOMG NOT PIXELPERFECT MUST TINKER
19:15.43Mikkshit, did i out-troll fisker?
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19:17.25nevcairielI just reverted the commit
19:17.42Repo10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r874 AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-BlizOptionsGroup.lua:
19:17.44RepoAceGUI-3.0: Revert r871, since it introduced a regression that would not allow 2 widgets on the same row anymore when within a container with a scroll bar.
19:18.00mitchnullhey, thanks!
19:18.09mitchnulltests, too
19:18.35mitchnullnot that it'll last long...
19:19.01Repo10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r875 AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-BlizOptionsGroup.lua:
19:19.03RepoWhen reverting, we should not revert the widget version, in fact, we should increase it!
19:19.19mitchnullhappy happy joy joy
19:19.25mitchnull(till it lasts...)
19:19.31nevcairielwhy do those things occur to me only after i commited
19:20.23nevcairielMaybe i should whoop up some test-addon to test AceGUI and AceConfigDialog layout things like that
19:22.49nevcairielbut then, i'm lazy
19:28.01mitchnullbtw, thanks for listing Bazooka on the LDB displays page to whoever did it :)
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19:37.27Belazorhm
19:37.29BelazorAceModuleCore-2.0-91091:196: AceOO-2.0: Classes can only inherit from one or zero classes and any number of mixins or interfaces
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19:40.03Torhalmitchnull: I did last week :)
19:41.10ArrowmasterBelazor: stop using Ace2
19:41.17Belazorits not my fault XD
19:41.38Belazorseems like the latest alpha of decursive2 is the culprit, from my testing
19:42.01Belazorwhat I need to do is stop updating it to alphas
19:42.51TorhalYah, apparently Decursive is in transition from Ace2 to Ace3.
19:42.59Belazoroic
19:43.05TorhalThe scary thing is that it's using both at the moment...
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19:54.29mitchnullmass-kill issue, eh :)
19:56.26Belazorlets see if the old bg weekend calculation formula works for all 6 bgs...
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20:00.13Repo10fubar_epgp: 03ansiik * r7 EPGP.lua: some changes
20:00.47Belazorno it does in fact not
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20:03.28Belazorleast I dont think it does, coulda sworn there was IoC today
20:05.03MegalonOh, global notice
20:05.09Megalonthey killed fisker too?
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20:05.12Megalonnice2read
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20:07.06BelazorDoes anybody know of an addon with up to date battleground holiday detection?
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20:07.30nevcairielBelazor: i know one, its called the blizzard calendar!
20:07.37Belazorhardy har har
20:07.45Pneumatuslordfaillander made a fail update of glory i think
20:07.49nevcairielthe information is in there
20:07.53nevcairielwhat more do you want
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20:08.07BelazorPneumatus: Someone must have taken that out then, because the latest Glory doesn't have it
20:08.11BelazorAnd that's what Im trying to add
20:08.23Pneumatusits in liblordfaillander
20:08.28Belazoroh
20:08.29Pneumatusiirc
20:08.31Belazorgoes to check
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20:09.17Belazorhe called it libglory-3.0 lols
20:09.39Belazornar BG weekends aren't updated
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20:11.26Belazornevcairiel: What I want is to try to fix the battleground holiday "prediction" in GloryLib, but the formula being used relies on the old "4 bgs / 4 weeks" stuff, but now there's 6 BGs :p
20:11.45BelazorI guess I could try scanning the calendar O.o
20:12.07nevcairielthere must be some logic behind the current thing too
20:12.15nevcairiel6 bgs, 6 weeks?
20:12.15nevcairiel:D
20:12.41BelazorXD
20:12.46Belazorits using a set order of rotation
20:12.48Belazorthis is true
20:13.00Belazorbut when I dont have a starting point, Im SOL aren't I
20:13.00Belazor:P
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20:15.52stolenlegacycan I make /dump dump the result of a function?
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20:17.14Pneumatuser, /dump foo()
20:18.12stolenlegacyoh
20:18.24stolenlegacylast time I checked, it dumped the function "table"
20:18.39Pneumatusno /dump foo would do that
20:18.53stolenlegacyhaha, kay
20:19.16Pneumatus/dump UnitName, UnitName("player")
20:20.54AntiarcUhhhh
20:20.57AntiarcIs Freenode going crazy
20:26.12Belazoryes, yes it is
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20:40.17Pneumatusheh, ensidia got horseys then :<
20:43.02Repo10fubar_repafu: 03ansiik * r49 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fubar2Broker compatible
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20:47.39Repo10fubar_repafu: 03ansiik * r50 FuBar_RepaFu.toc: Fubar2Broker compatible
20:49.05Repo10fubar_repafu: 03ansiik 04v3.2-r50 * r51 : v3.2-r50
20:49.13yoshimoantiarc didnt you get the global message from freenode?
20:53.36stolenlegacysummary of that link: they fail at coding
20:53.38ansikhow to del unapprowed project?
20:53.45stolenlegacyansik: ask a mod
20:54.20ansik!ping moders :-)
20:55.30Arrowmastertheres nothing unapproved
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20:57.29harlthe oculus' ruby dragon's "martyr" ability still seems to be bugged, in other words in doesn't work at all and Blizzard seems too lazy to correct that.
20:58.52yoshimowhat was that supposed to do? i did the achievement ages ago
20:58.53harlyou can basically use martyr and get no damage at all, so wtf
20:59.14harlmartyr is supposed to redirect all damage at the ruby dragon
21:01.23ansikArrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/fubar_epgp/ :-)
21:01.52Arrowmasterright its not in the approval queue
21:01.59yoshimothey "fixed " our strategy with 5 dragons of the same type though
21:03.01Arrowmasteransik: edit project, very last dropdown
21:03.33Pneumatusyoshimo: 5 reds?
21:03.49yoshimoi think it was green
21:03.56Pneumatuswe've done 5 green and 5 amber
21:03.57Arrowmasterkite the boss around?
21:04.02Pneumatus5 green is kitefest
21:04.07Pneumatus5 amber is BOOM HEADSHOT
21:04.11ansikArrowmaster: what edit fubar_epgp, if fubar don't allowed? :-). remove it :-\
21:04.29yoshimothe adds started to behave differently, so it didnt work any more as we exspected it to do
21:04.33Arrowmasterno clue what you are saying
21:04.42Pneumatuswe did 5 greens recently and were able to kite still
21:05.03yoshimomaybe its just a bit more difficult than it has been
21:05.22Pneumatus5 amber is the most fun you can have, if you can manage to coordinate it
21:05.26yoshimofubar is allowed, but people said they like to kill it arrow
21:05.59harl?
21:06.16yoshimowell broker/ldb is the one to use, isnt it? ;)
21:07.02Repo10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy * r680 sRaidFramesLayout.lua:
21:07.04Repo- Streamlining of Custom layouts into functions to make further changes easier (and reduce filesize)
21:07.05Repo- HP/MP bar width is no longer linked with the title bar's
21:07.07Repo- HP/MP bar offsets are now changeable
21:07.09Repo- Border is now selectable per-layout
21:07.53harli've got no clue what ansik said either.
21:09.26yoshimothere should be one langugage everybody can speak &understand fluently *curses*
21:09.41Arrowmasterwe shale call it english
21:09.53harldeal.
21:09.53yoshimoi added "fluently" on purpose
21:10.43stolenlegacyyoshimo: you can't propose that
21:10.53stolenlegacythey ARE trying to teach every kid english
21:11.01stolenlegacybut it simply doesn't work because the kids don't want to
21:11.03harlnot everywhere
21:12.08yoshimostolenlegacy, the problem is that if you have to analyse every single word of any book you read in class or text you find in your book, you loose intrest.
21:12.22stolenlegacyyoshimo: yeah, that's a problem
21:12.46yoshimoand talking about politiks and ancient books, doesnt help in dayli life. i had 3 years of italian, went on a student exchange and was lost
21:12.57stolenlegacyi'm a native german speaker, and I often find myself even thinking in english because it has far more specific technical terms
21:13.30yoshimoplaying mmorpgs like wow wont work without technical wow-terms anyway.
21:13.44yoshimosometimes it works well if you use german, french, russian or whatever
21:13.53yoshimobut try to translate "tank" ;)
21:14.06stolenlegacyyoshimo: you don't want to play on a locale client
21:14.09Ingelale tanke
21:14.13Ingelafrench!
21:14.13stolenlegacyblizzard's translations suck
21:14.19Ingeladie tankisch - german
21:14.26stolenlegacyIngela: you french translate EVERYTHING because you're so proud of your language
21:14.31stolenlegacyand die tankisch is definitely wrong :P
21:14.33ArrowmasterТанк
21:14.35yoshimoPanzer in this case, which nobody would understand
21:14.39stolenlegacyyoshimo: yup
21:14.40Ingelai'm from sweden :D
21:14.42harlSchutz definitely doesn't work well, but what else would be better eh?
21:14.50stolenlegacyWächter?
21:14.53harlno
21:14.56stolenlegacydunno
21:15.05stolenlegacywe always use "Tank", even on german servers
21:15.16stolenlegacysince most serious raiders play using enGB anyway
21:15.24yoshimowächter would describe the job well, but tank is the term
21:15.38harltank means panzer and people have basically come to use the word tank in english because the one being a "tank" resembles the same purpose.
21:16.11Ingelasometimes i have definetly problems coming up with what i wanna say in swedish but i have good words for it in english
21:16.12harlso there isn't really a good translation for tank.
21:16.28Ingelalike the sentence "it doesn't make sense" can't be translated <.<
21:16.43Ingelaenglish > swedish!
21:16.44yoshimoalthough i have to admit that people sometimes get crazy, they use malformed mixtures of english, with german grammar, instead of their own german words, which exist, sound betterm and mean the same
21:16.53stolenlegacyhttp://paste.wowace.com/1371/
21:16.56stolenlegacywrong window
21:17.22yoshimo- LBC-4.0 , do you mean libhealcomm,?
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21:17.31stolenlegacyyoshimo: ask ingela
21:17.35stolenlegacyit's his wishlist
21:18.00Ingelayes ofc lhc
21:18.03Ingelanot lbc :P
21:18.15yoshimoi wondered, what that might be ;)
21:18.21stolenlegacyyoshimo: me too
21:18.31Ingeladunno why i wrote lbc
21:18.37yoshimofat fingers?
21:18.41Ingelaprolly!
21:18.43stolenlegacysimple typo?
21:18.50stolenlegacyb is just below h
21:18.56Ingelanah i'm probebly just stupid!
21:19.08stolenlegacyI could empathize on that one
21:19.26Repo10bazooka: 03mitch0 07bulk-config * r87 / (2 files in 2 directories): some concepts in place, still a lot to go
21:19.39Ingelaoh yeah what i mean with the icons is that i want the icon to be there, the star, the diamond and so on, not the text "star"
21:19.41Ingelaif you know what i mean
21:20.06stolenlegacyoh, you mean raid icons
21:20.11stolenlegacykay, I'll look into it
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21:20.57stolenlegacyyou hurried me back then to do it, so I cba to look it up
21:21.17stolenlegacyoh yeah, "It doesn't make sense" is translatable to german
21:21.23stolenlegacy"Es ist unlogisch" would fit pretty well
21:22.03Belazoryou CAN do "while(true) then" in lua right?
21:22.14stolenlegacyBelazor: without the ()
21:22.22stolenlegacylua> while true do print(lol) end
21:22.28lua_botstolenlegacy: nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, ... (result truncated)
21:22.28ansikMods, reapprove plz http://www.wowace.com/addons/fubar_epgp/ and rename it :-)
21:22.33Belazoroh
21:22.34Belazorcheers
21:22.44stolenlegacyand i forgot to put it in ""
21:22.45stolenlegacyhaha
21:23.13yoshimoansik, did you convert it to broker or why do you want a namechange?
21:23.42ansikyoshimo: for broker
21:23.55ansikyoshimo: but not epgp, repa :-)
21:25.49stolenlegacyIngela: for example, try to translate "http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/world-first-tribute-to-immortality-by-ensidia/ <-- back at #1!
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21:26.11stolenlegacyugh, still had my half-typed message
21:26.13stolenlegacyforget the first part :P
21:26.36Ingelahaha
21:27.05yoshimoso whats wrong with stars? ;)
21:29.26harlwhat's a star anyway
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21:35.43yoshimowhats the exact difference between the svn address, and the developer svn adress, except that the second has my username in it?
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21:36.33Arrowmasteryou cant write to the public one
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21:38.01yoshimosvn seems to take care if i feed it with name and password, never had problems (if i set the encoding right)
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21:41.53Repo10syncfriends (experimental): 03Subdino * r49 SyncFriends.lua:
21:41.55RepoNo need to output a "replacing note" message when there is no note set yet.
21:43.38ansik@describe syncfriends
21:43.41Repoansik: http://www.wowace.com/addons/syncfriends/. SyncFriends. Synchronise friends among your characters
21:43.57Pneumatus49 commits on an experimental project :o
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22:04.24Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r251 tomQuest2_Config/config.lua: fix a few things in config
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23:12.12Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r85 Core.lua:
23:12.14RepoWow I'm bad, "[1]" caused GetQuestData to fail expanded search.
23:12.53Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz 042.3.5 * r86 :
23:12.55RepoWow I'm bad, "[1]" caused GetQuestData to fail expanded search.
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23:17.19ansik@describe everyquest
23:17.20Repoansik: http://www.wowace.com/addons/everyquest/. EveryQuest. Quest History tracker and shows lists of quests in each category
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23:23.01ansiklua>for i=0,10000 do end print("delay")
23:23.01lua_botansik: delay
23:23.05ansiklua>for i=0,100000 do end print("delay")
23:23.06lua_botansik: delay
23:23.14ansiklua>for i=0,1000000 do end print("delay")
23:23.14lua_botansik: delay
23:24.11vhaarrlua>for i = 0, 2 do print("delay") end
23:24.11lua_botvhaarr: delay, delay, delay
23:24.17vhaarrl2p
23:24.55vhaarroh what the, you want to use a for loop to create an artificial execution delay?
23:25.18vhaarrI'll just say "don't", and leave it there
23:25.23ShirikI've told people to do that before
23:25.32Shirikall those people that want castsequence to work just once
23:25.38Shirikit's more fun to let them learn their lesson the hard way
23:46.09ShefkiWonder if lua is smart enough to optomize out a loop with nothing to execute in the block.
23:46.54quiescensI don't think it does many optimizations
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