IRC log for #wowace on 20091030

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00:00.48sztanpetyea, dont create variables in there
00:02.15sztanpetalso im nil-ing my onupdate handler out when i have nothing to do, and adding it only on-demand
00:03.08jnwhitehsztanpet: why not just :Show() and :Hide()
00:03.12jnwhitehmuch cleaner
00:03.56sztanpetor you could do that too, indeed
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00:07.21PrimerSo don't create any variables in your onUpdate, eh
00:07.25PrimerI didn't know that
00:07.51sztanpetsomething about GC pressure
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00:08.47Primerseems I create a bunch of variables in my onUpdate
00:09.21sztanpetgo for upvalues
00:09.33PrimerI don't know what that is
00:10.00sztanpetthe variables that are still in scope but you did not declare them
00:10.42jnwhitehdeclaring new variables in an onupdate isn't a problem
00:10.50jnwhitehGC doesn't happen on "variables"
00:10.53jnwhitehit happesn on values
00:11.02jnwhitehso yes, don't create tons of new tables, or coroutines, or functions
00:11.05MysticalOSsztanpet, coudn't resist the sindragosa streams?
00:11.22MysticalOSshe's raping face, i love it :)
00:11.28sztanpetMysticalOS nah, damn still watching Castle s1e7
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00:13.31Primerso local variables are ok?
00:13.36Primerlocal foo = 1
00:13.37Primer?
00:14.18jnwhitehof course
00:14.27jnwhitehlua> local s = os.clock() for i = 1, 1e6 do local x = 4 end; print(os.clock() - s)
00:14.28lua_botjnwhiteh: 0.02
00:14.35jnwhitehlua> local s = os.clock(); local x; for i = 1, 1e7 do x = 4 end; print(os.clock() - s)
00:14.36lua_botjnwhiteh: 0.13
00:14.44jnwhitehorder of magnitude, lol
00:14.47jnwhitehlua> local s = os.clock() for i = 1, 1e7 do local x = 4 end; print(os.clock() - s)
00:14.48lua_botjnwhiteh: 0.13
00:14.49jnwhitehthere we go
00:15.00jnwhitehvariables are just in registers
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00:16.29jnwhitehas a matter of fact
00:16.40jnwhitehthe bytecode is _identical_ for the two different versions above.
00:17.01jnwhitehwith the exception of a LOADNIL for the local declaration before the loop.
00:17.46jnwhitehsleeps
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00:41.18NeoTron"Causes those who attack Sindragosa with physical attacks to be chilled to the bone, reducing their movement speed by 1000% per application, for 8 sec seconds. "
00:41.22NeoTronheh
00:41.22NeoTronpercentage fails
00:42.43NeoTronheh she has an AoE death grip which I presume is followed by the 35k aoe
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00:55.05Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6726 Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: Bugfix delayed MC message.
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01:10.27Groktarsheeps renchap
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01:15.38Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6727 Core/BossPrototype.lua:
01:15.40RepoFoolproof against future errors like the Kel'thuzad one, and remove some unused code from the prototype.
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01:50.54sylvanaar^^ that sounds like something I would have to revert 2 months later
01:57.18Repo10chocolatebar: 03yess * r82 / (2 files in 1 directory): hide libqtip and tablet-2.0 tooltips on drag & drop
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02:15.14Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r67 Ailo.lua: A table should be a table, not nil :C
02:15.40Repo10ailo: 03Starfox 041.0.17 * r68 : Tagging as 1.0.17
02:16.41Archarodimanyone knows what's this about: Ace2-r1098\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:218: cannot change a protected metatable? http://www.wowace.com/addons/decursive/tickets/28-2-4-3-2-4-gadf076b-breaks-wow/
02:19.30Torhal_Archarodim: No idea, but Ace2 and Ace3 in one project confuses me.
02:19.57Archarodimit's temporary of course
02:20.17Archarodimthis happens since I use LibOOP...
02:20.19TorhalAh, you're in transition.
02:20.25TorhalOh?
02:20.58ArcharodimI cannot reproduce this issue myself though but several people have this problem
02:21.11TorhalWell, to be honest, that ticket should be flagged invalid since it isn't a full stack trace
02:21.24TorhalIf it were, you'd probably know what it was.
02:22.16vhaarrit's an old issue caused by some people doing bad things
02:22.18vhaarrspecifically
02:22.20vhaarrI don't remember
02:22.21vhaarr:P
02:22.45vhaarrbut it has surfaced a few times since late TBC and start of wotlk
02:23.00TorhalArcharodim: BTW: That partial stack trace shows AnchorsAway at the end. No mention of Decursive
02:23.54Archarodimyep but if they use a version of Decursive without LibOOP, the latest beta, they don't have the issue
02:23.56TorhalOr I just fail at reading past whitespace
02:24.29TorhalLibOOP uses metatables heavily from what I remember of the forum thread.
02:24.56ArcharodimI'm installing AnchorsAway to see if I can trigger it
02:25.26vhaarrwhat the fuck is this
02:25.32vhaarrlocal MAJOR = "LibOOP-1.0"
02:25.32vhaarr--@alpha@
02:25.32vhaarrMAJOR = MAJOR.."-alpha"
02:25.32vhaarr--@end-alpha@
02:25.41Torhalvhaarr: That, sir, is fail.
02:25.45vhaarrindeed
02:26.16sylvanaar月亮
02:26.28Torhalsylvanaar: Seriously?
02:26.33Archarodimyep this caused me trouble the first time I tried the lib...
02:26.47vhaarrwhy do you need this library anyway
02:26.49vhaarrit's just sugar
02:27.04TorhalNot only that, but the only other project to use it belongs to its author.
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02:27.19Archarodimwell I thought it could be useful in the futur
02:27.23vhaarryou're wrong
02:27.54vhaarranyway converting from ace2 to ace3 takes what, 30 minutes
02:28.16vhaarrremove the lib, close the bug, convert your addon, drink beer
02:28.29sylvanaarTorhal yes, didn't you know
02:28.50Torhalsylvanaar: I still don't.
02:29.22sylvanaar现在您知道
02:29.29sylvanaar^^
02:29.40TorhalInconceivable.
02:29.53Archarodimnot for me I'm afraid, I'm doing complex things with the options table and I know it will cause me some headache
02:30.10Torhaldownloads.
02:30.33vhaarrI doubt it's that bad, the option tables are somewhat compatible
02:30.37ArcharodimI cannot read what you're writing sylvanaar is this normal?
02:30.50Gagorian-DrDamage has tons of optiontables and it took like 20 minutes to convert
02:30.50TorhalArcharodim: He;s speaking in tongues.
02:30.55sylvanaarArcharodim yes
02:31.01sylvanaaryou need utf8
02:31.16Torhalsylvanaar: TO see kanji?
02:31.24Torhals/TO/To/
02:31.30Archarodimah ok my irc client is quite old
02:31.32HirsuteSylvanar: I have utf-8, and I still can't read it.
02:31.37Hirsute:p
02:31.48sylvanaarwhat irc client
02:31.51TorhalI can see that it's Japanese, certainly. But _read_ it? Nein.
02:31.58ArcharodimHydraIRC
02:32.04sylvanaarbabels like a fish
02:32.28sylvanaar~x cn en 现在您知道
02:32.32Hirsutesylvanaar: ChatZilla, and I'm in the same boat as Torhal.  I can see the characters, I just have no ability to read whatever language it is.
02:32.50TorhalArcharodim: Just out of curiosity - why GPLv3? WoWMatrix is having a field day!
02:33.08HirsuteARR ftw
02:33.17HirsuteWoWMatrix can eat me.
02:33.23sylvanaar~x zh en 现在您知道
02:33.23WobWorkthis ^
02:33.34HirsuteOf course, my addon has had a total of... maybe 100 downloads in a year.
02:33.35Torhalpurl fails at UTF8
02:33.36sylvanaaroh she'd retarded
02:33.37WobWorkpurl, you're awesome
02:33.38purlACTION blushes
02:33.58ArcharodimI know but it was already GPL before WoWmatrix so I left it that way
02:33.59sylvanaar~x en zh Now you know
02:34.16HirsuteHow interesting.
02:34.16TorhalAh, and you're not the original Author so you can't change it.
02:34.20TorhalBlargh
02:34.22HirsuteIt can go one way, and not the other.
02:34.33sylvanaaryeah, you see why
02:34.44ArcharodimWell I am, all the code is from me
02:34.54Archarodimthe only thing that isn't is the name
02:35.19Archarodimand the former Decursive is in public domain
02:35.33vhaarryou can change the license now, but not retroactively
02:35.35TorhalOh! Then you can change to All Rights Reserved so WoWMatrix doesn't rape you
02:35.54WobWorkThey'll be able to take the previous versions, just not any past the licence change
02:35.58TorhalAye
02:36.17ArcharodimI'll think I do it once my transition to Ace3 is over
02:36.18sylvanaari have recently started using PD for everything
02:36.22WobWorkIt'll be status quo once more, with WM distributing old versions
02:36.41WobWorkand WM strikes once more for the advancement of the FSF
02:37.08ArcharodimI could make versions expire after a certain time, like I'm doing for non-Release versions
02:37.17sylvanaaryeah, right - i need multiple pages in a liscense to tell me that I have no rights
02:37.22sylvanaarPD
02:37.42TorhalArcharodim: Won't work - WoWMatrix is notorious for editing AddOns. They'll just remove your expiration code.
02:37.51sylvanaarwow really?
02:37.56TorhalYah.
02:37.59Archarodimreally? I didn't know that
02:38.00sylvanaarhow tacky
02:38.19TorhalThey liked to "fix" AddOns by upping ToC numbers, changing the ToC to remove donation information, etc
02:39.20TorhalIn a few cases they actually changed code to make it "work", which caused other problems.
02:39.27Archarodimok I think I'm going to change to All Right Reserved soon
02:39.35WobWorkand naturally the bug reports returned to the author
02:39.39WobWorkwho went "wtf?"
02:39.40TorhalExactly
02:40.12Archarodimthey also distribute beta versions of addons
02:40.23TorhalAlpha
02:40.32Torhal...when they were able to scrape WoWAce
02:41.48Archarodimis all right reserved possible if I use libraries in GPL?
02:41.55WobWorkyes
02:42.09WobWorkThe libraries remain GPL
02:42.18WobWorkbut your addon is still ARR
02:43.02Archarodimah ok, it's only if I take code directly from those libraries that my addon need to be GPL too then?
02:43.37sylvanaarthere should just be a "shields up" button in the project interface that switches all your projects to ARR
02:44.08sylvanaaroh, btw
02:45.01sylvanaarwhat is wrong with this suggestion: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1889-substitution-token-for-toc-interface-version/
02:45.43sylvanaari got the reply that Ackis left, and a "i dont like it"
02:46.58WobWorkI think Ackis' note covers it, no?
02:47.06sylvanaarperhaps, instead i could suggest leaving the toc interface string out of the id hash
02:47.18Torhalsylvanaar: Probably the same thing that's wrong with: local MINOR = @project-revision@
02:47.39sylvanaarim still not sure what that is
02:48.09Torhal@project-revision@ Turns into the highest revision of the entire project in integer form. e.g. 1234
02:49.13TorhalBasically, with a ToC number, if your project isn't ready for the current build then people should have to turn on out-of-date addons to make it load.
02:49.34sylvanaarok - the suggestion was about addons which are ready
02:49.40TorhalMost people won't do that. Those that do eitehr know what they're doing or are grasping at straws
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02:49.52TorhalYou mean tagged?
02:50.15TorhalBecause I don't know how the packager would be able to auto-insert a value for an alpha
02:50.20sylvanaari mean, just be able to mark an addon as ready for TOC XXXXX
02:50.29sylvanaarand not have to change the source
02:50.42Archarodimthe curse client would have to do it
02:50.45sylvanaarTorhal it wouldnt - right
02:50.49sylvanaarthe client would
02:51.07Torhalsylvanaar: Not everyone uses the client, though...so those folks would have an AddOn that wouldn't load.
02:51.24sylvanaarfair poitn
02:51.26sylvanaarpoint
02:53.26sylvanaarthough an alternative would be to have the packagrer generate zips with each toc revision, idk - i thought it was a reasonable suggestion
02:53.49harlmy enchanting's ruining me.
02:54.09sylvanaarit was really that id like to be able to bump my toc revision up in advance of patch day
02:54.24sylvanaaronce i have validated my addon on the ptr
02:54.58Torhalsylvanaar: You'd still have to tag release to make the packager generate a new zip, so changing the ToC number is just another small step.
02:55.26Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r69 Ailo.lua:
02:55.28RepoThe tooltip should display the abbreviated instancenames ( if the current profiles lacks them, go with the '1.char-of-words'-type)
02:58.10sylvanaarTorhal i wasnt sure about that part i guess. there are ways around that - its really not a big issue - i just didnt think it was such a terrible idea
02:58.57sylvanaaritd be nice if you could say Interface: <= 20300
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03:12.59Groktarcurls up in sylvanaar's lap and dies
03:13.45sylvanaarrests his bowl of ice-cream on Groktar
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03:38.56kadrahilhmm
03:39.09kadrahilthe shadow strike timer doesn't turn off when you get out of combat on anub heroic sometimes
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03:48.53Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r70 / (2 files in 1 directory):
03:48.55RepoIf !ClassColors is found show an option to use those classcolors instead
03:50.32Repo10ailo: 03Starfox 041.0.18 * r71 : Tagging as 1.0.18
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04:02.26PrimerI watched a video where a priest was using msbt, but also had heals done on others show up above the player that was getting healed
04:02.36PrimerI can't figure out how to do that. Anyone know how?
04:04.26Groktarjust don't turn off heals over other players
04:04.29Groktar:D
04:04.40Groktarit's in the blizzard combat text
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04:08.34Primerahh yes
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04:13.47Repo10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.3.2-7-g9b5fbca / (6 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - Removed LibOOP since it's causing compatibility issues and also because we don't really need it (Decursive only uses basic inheritance at this point...).
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04:57.28Repo10libfail-1-0: 03mysticalos * r141 LibFail-1.0.lua:
04:57.30RepoAdded fails Fail_Sindragosa_TailSmash, Fail_Sindragosa_FrostBreath, and Fail_Sindragosa_BlisteringCold
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05:21.07FiskerZek
05:24.54Torhal-Fisker: Is that some heavily-accented "kek"?
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05:32.28Fiskerl2read Torhal-
05:33.39Shirikl2Fisker- Fisker
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05:40.39Fiskeri fart your face Shirik
05:40.49Torhal-That sounds painful.
05:41.07Shiriknow go away or I shall taunt you a second time
05:46.21robotuschl2fisk fisker
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06:16.04doobiuswhats the highest speed anyones seen an external hard drive transfer data?
06:16.08doobiuson usb 2
06:23.37Silowyithose two lines don't go together
06:24.17SilowyiThe fastest I've ever seen is copying 150 MB of files in 2 hours, so roughly, what, 12.5 MB/sec?
06:24.29Silowyierr
06:24.29Repo10libfail-1-0: 03mysticalos * r142 LibFail-1.0.lua:
06:24.31RepoIn light of watching Alpha of Greymanes (US) strategy for Sindragosa encounter, made tanks an exception to Fail_Sindragosa_BlisteringCold.
06:24.36Silowyi150 GB of files in 2 hours rather
06:24.52Silowyidoes some maths...
06:25.16Silowyi150000/(2*60*60)
06:25.33Silowyiabout 21 MB/sec
06:26.42Silowyithat's actually pretty good, it's almost twice as fast as my Windows Vista machine reads from a network file server two feet away :P
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06:31.56Groktarmails Silowyi to Fisker
06:33.50WobWorkI read that as "Groktar mails slowly to Fisker"
06:34.22Groktar:p
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07:47.26Repo10grid: 03Greltok * r1224 GridFrame.lua: We now update frame units when a unit button is shown.
07:47.28RepoTicket 185.
07:47.29RepoUnder some conditions, the roster may be updated before the unit button is shown, so the unit button will not be set up.
07:47.30RepoThis (along with r1222) may also fix issues with black unit frames.
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08:35.13Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6728 Core/BossPrototype.lua: bugfix targetmessage, added missing self, key
08:37.45Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6729 Core/BossPrototype.lua:
08:37.47Repoclarify delaymessage error so it's easier to find if it occurs
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09:06.58Repo10big-wigs: 03yoshimo * r6731 Citadel (2 files in 1 directory): basic Sindragosa-Module
09:07.24orionshockquestion, how much of a GUID can you trim off to get a number unique to being compared agenst only players?
09:07.36orionshockfrom reading the wiki seems like only the last 6 are needed
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10:11.05Tamarothhmm, if i inherit some button in my xml file, will it inherit it's actions as well?
10:11.11Tamarothlike <OnLoad> etc?
10:13.50Repo10libdblayers-1-0 (experimental): 03Azethoth * r3 LibDBLayers-1.0 (2 files in 1 directory): -- Some actual code
10:13.52Repo-- Still incomplete, and just a taste of where this is headed.
10:15.27yoshimo@describe libdblayers-1-0
10:15.29Repoyoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdblayers-1-0/. LibDBLayers-1.0. Manages the SavedVariables of your addon with a layered hierarchy of settings.
10:19.54Stanzillawtf :o
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10:23.06profalbertwould be great for http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/207-parent-layouts/ i guess
10:23.46jnwhitehTamaroth: yes, so long as you don't set a new OnLoad script,yes.
10:23.54jnwhitehbut it has to be a template,. not a button.
10:24.39Tamarothwhat's the difference?
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10:24.48Tamaroth(sorry for noob questions too)
10:25.18jnwhitehwell a button is just a normal frame
10:25.31jnwhiteha template can only be defined in XML, and has virtual="true" in the definition
10:25.33orionshockTamaroth: templates have no game intractable object, buttons do.
10:25.42jnwhitehthis tells WoW not to make one, but to allow other buttons to inherit from it.
10:26.03Tamarothjnwhiteh: thanks
10:26.07Tamarothorionshock: thanks
10:26.16Tamaroththis virtual="true" helped :)
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10:51.21Repo10scorchio2: 03ennuilg * r57 / (3 files in 2 directories): 30/19/09 1.1.16
10:51.23Repo- Updated zhCN localisation. (Thanks to Chris Fox.)
10:51.24Repo- Corrected znCN typo in .toc. (ditto)
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11:29.40KriLL3anyone knows how to get a space (" ") between the timestamps and the next element in chatter? driving me nuts
11:30.03KriLL3and for some odd reason system messages like afk etc do have a space, but say, general etc don't
11:31.07StanzillaKriLL3: use a custom timestamp format
11:31.16KriLL3I don't know how to use that
11:31.28Stanzilla%H:%M:%S ·
11:31.31Stanzillais what I use
11:31.40Stanzillaif you just want a space, remove the dot there
11:31.51Stanzilla"%H:%M:%S "
11:31.57Balreignor add &nbsp;
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11:33.02Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r6732 Citadel/Sindragosa.lua: Sindragosa: PTR only
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11:43.16Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6733 Citadel/Sindragosa.lua: prevent some erroring
12:00.22Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6734 Citadel (7 files in 1 directory): Clean stuff up.
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13:49.50RepoAlpha commit for Group-Based growth settings (Request by Ingela)
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14:51.13ckknighthey, who wants to go in on the 4-pack of Borderlands? we just need 1 more person
14:52.09Tamarothi would like to join, but i'm going out for a beer
14:52.16Tamaroth1st playthrough btw?
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14:53.16ckknightI more mean, you send me $37.50, I'll send you the code that would normally cost $49.99
14:53.47Tamarothoh
14:53.58Tamarothsorry then, misunderstood you there
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14:58.33RepoFixed an error with Growth setting tables not being generated
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15:30.08Repofour new Sindragosa fails, the Ice Tomb fail is totally guesswork as i dont have a combatlog where they took him down below 25%, so its "experimental"
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15:36.22ulicIn the Marrowgar modules for example, wouldn't you want to wipe(impale) everytime impaleWarn is called, not just when it's called and warned is true?
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16:12.15Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
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17:24.38ulicquiet day
17:26.18Groktarbeen quiet for a few days now
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17:32.18purlACTION slaps orionshock, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
17:32.26Gnarfozorionshock: fix your connection
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17:49.30NeoTronmust say Sindragosa looks like a cool fight
17:49.51NeoTronand a massive pug fail factory unless it's nerfed so it's trivial (like getting hit by the aoe doesn't hurt)
17:51.31steev<3 pug fails
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17:59.27kadrahilslaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout
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18:02.58yoshimosteev i dont, but only if im in the pug ;)
18:03.26steevi miss the days of wow not being carebear fights
18:04.12yoshimosteev, could you explain this sort of fight to me?
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18:06.30yoshimobtw, did i miss the announcement for tonight raidtesting in europe? everyone is looking for raids, and i thought the last boss this week was rotface yesterday
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18:08.42steevyoshimo: i mean fights getting constantly nerfed because they are "too hard" - raids (should) require 10, 25, or 40 people working in unison, not 5-6, 11-12, 25-30, people working together and the others standing around going lolimagetloot
18:11.03Repo10yssinstancemaps: 03yssaril 07master * 34b7eee Data.lua: [+1 commit] added in bosslocations some i think are spot on some are just guesses based on map name and location please contact me via a ticket if any are worng
18:11.05yoshimoah ok, now i understand that
18:12.08steevi liken it to those people standing in the cave in AV - sure they are there, but they aren't really helping
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18:13.34steevnow if only we could get us some death's verdict
18:14.33steevwe just constantly get the caster trinket
18:16.49Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.239p-beta * r310 : RaidBuffStatus:
18:16.51Repo- Priest deaths might be fixed now.
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18:21.43Torhalorionshock: Your leave/join messages made me twitchy. :D
18:23.51nevcairielhe is at that again?
18:24.05Pneumatusbeen at it all day :<
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18:24.54Groktarhe needs a new connection :(
18:25.57yoshimoi fixxed it by hiding name changes
18:28.02NeoTronyeah I have no idea what you're talking about
18:29.05Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r676 / (20 files in 3 directories): Merge Frozen Halls branch for some wider testing perhaps.
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18:41.03evlAnyone know if it's possible to make OmniCC only show a countdown for the say last 10 seconds of a cooldown on an ability?
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18:51.00kadrahilKaeltennnnnnnnnn
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19:00.03Groktarcasts kadrahil into the river of fire
19:00.41Ackiswhat do you need him for?
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19:08.40Groktarentertainment!
19:08.47Groktarwatching him BURN
19:10.27Groktargives a paper bag full of wood spiders to Shirik
19:10.32Shirik? :(
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19:20.20Repo10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r59 / (4 files in 1 directory): JebusMail:
19:20.22Repo- Added a close button to the drop-down menu (translation needed for RU)
19:20.23Repo- Added some background communication.  If someone sends you an item and is also running JebusMail, then your mail log will be updated with the arrival time.
19:21.09Repo10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 * r60 JebusMail.toc: JebusMail:
19:21.11Repo- updated version
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19:21.49Repo10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 04v3.20c * r61 : JebusMail:
19:21.51Repo- Added a close button to the drop-down menu (translation needed for RU)
19:21.52Repo- Added some background communication.  If someone sends you an item and is also running JebusMail, then your mail log will be updated with the arrival time.
19:24.28steevjebus mail eh?
19:24.35pentium166yeah, eh
19:28.34durcynsounds awful.
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19:30.58steevno way, jebus would never lead us astray
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19:50.38Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-63-g83ad214 Frame.lua: [+2 commits]
19:50.54Repo83ad214: Add a work around for how we deal with achievement text for pets/mounts which actually aren't achievements.  This should appease Torhal since I'm doing coding, and Elkano since I'm fixing a bug.
19:50.56Repoffcddf9: Add debug messages for the progress bar issue.
19:51.18Ackis90% of this channel today has been people joining/leaving/rejoining/etc
19:51.56Groktardon't forget the netsplits
19:52.06GroktarOH
19:52.10Groktarso that's how it works
19:52.25Groktarslaps himself around a bit with Ackis
19:52.32Ackiswhat?
19:52.34Ackiswhat works?
19:53.07Groktari'm having fun with vs2008
19:53.28Groktari couldn't figure out the purpose of adding data connections in server explorer, because i couldn't drag them onto my code
19:53.40Groktarbut you don't drag them onto code
19:53.48Groktaronto the webforms
19:53.53Groktarand i just found the connection string
19:54.50Repo10calendarextras: 03wT- * r29 / (2 files in 1 directory):
19:54.52PneumatusAckis: not people, orionshock :)
19:54.52RepoFix online/offline updates, marking people offline wasn't working
19:55.28Repo10calendarextras: 03wT- 04v1.3.2 * r30 : Tagging 1.3.2
19:56.08yoshimoPneumatus , Axodious is having problems as well
19:56.39Ackissomeone test out collectinator and see if I broke anything :D
19:56.54Ackisit'll spam you a bit when you do a scan for debug purposes though
19:56.57NeoTronweird
19:57.26NeoTronthis version of xterm has issues with _ for some reason. Using nicely anti-aliased fonts
19:57.42NeoTronthen seem to like to hang around at the botton of the xterm
19:58.11NeoTronoh heh. they don't scroll correctly. guess they are outside the range of the characters making xterm confuscated
20:01.32Ingelahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFM140rju4k
20:01.33Ingelathis is so epic
20:03.02Megalongooble, gobble, gooble, gobble
20:03.17Ingelawe came we saw we kicked its ASS!!!!
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20:11.15Repo10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy * r675 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added oRA3 maintank list importing for groups
20:11.54Groktarcreeps up behind Repo while brandishing a large Fisker
20:14.28steevlol
20:14.59steevhttp://ubersekret.com/screenshots/lolwsg.png
20:15.14Groktarswings wildly, missing Fisker and hitting steev in the groin
20:15.16Groktaromg sorry
20:15.26Ingelayou didn't win killing blows
20:15.27Ingelaboo
20:15.36steev*shrug*
20:15.51steevi held the horde flag for 12 minutes of that battle
20:16.12steevthen i gave it to the other dk
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20:16.41steevand went and got our flag back
20:18.53steevwas annoying cuz it was a prot pally holding, witha  holy pally protecting, along with a spriest, warlock and that hunter with him
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20:19.11steevthat, and the fact that 1/2 the alliance team was trying to camp the horde gy, for some reason
20:21.21Groktari love charging up the cliff to their gy
20:21.30Groktareven though i always explode shortly thereafter
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20:31.47Repo10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy * r676 sRaidFrames.lua: Removed a leftover debug message
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20:32.32doobiuswhat can i use to mount a monitor on a concrete wall
20:32.51durcynconcrete bolts
20:32.57Groktarya
20:33.02doobiuswhat if i cant use those
20:33.12durcynyou drill a hole with a rotary hammer, wedge in the bolts and tighten them down
20:33.13durcynum
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20:33.18Groktarwell, if you can't drill holes, i imagine you're screwed
20:33.21Pneumatusthere must be some kind of concrete glue
20:33.22durcynthen don't mount it on a concrete wall
20:33.22GroktarOMG I MADE A PUN
20:33.35Groktari wouldn't feel safe using glue
20:33.37doobiuscan i use some super strong adhesive
20:33.59durcynyou could, but only if you like picking up your tv with a broom and dustpan
20:34.10doobiusbleh k
20:34.17durcynthe kind of glue you'd need for that would do more damage than holes anyway, for fuck sake
20:34.29Groktarcan you attach something to the ceiling instead?
20:34.53doobiusnope
20:35.22Groktarya, you're screwed
20:35.33doobiusmaybe i could get one of those mechanical arms and attach it onto the side of my desk
20:35.38doobiusbut its probably super expensive
20:35.52durcynvesa mounts aren't that spendy
20:36.02durcynnot for single monitors under 50 pounds
20:37.47NeoTronhttp://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/mikec-rubberfrogs.jpg?w=500&h=400  heh
20:44.54Groktarhttp://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/mikeg-longtermfix.jpg?w=500&h=375
20:59.16Groktarhttp://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/dave-immaboat.jpg?w=500&h=375
20:59.18GroktarOH MY GOD
20:59.20Groktarthat is awesome
21:00.46ulicGroktar: another funny is that the "boat" appears to be being towed by a fan of the exact same color and model :)
21:01.00ulicwhich might lead one to believe it's photoshopped
21:02.17Groktartail lights are different
21:02.34Groktarone has silver trim around them and the other doesn't
21:03.23Fisker~seen Zeksie
21:03.24purlzeksie is currently on #wowuidev (6h 40m 15s) #wowace (6h 40m 15s) #curseforge (6h 40m 15s), last said: 'yeh, downloaded it and tried the packaged one. should be ok'.
21:03.31Fiskeryou
21:03.58Repo10jebus-mail: 03StingerSoft * r62 localization.lua: JebusMail:
21:04.01Repo- ruRU update
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21:28.52Ackissylvanaar: were you just talking about your ticket or was that last night? my scroll back log on the znc is whacked for some reason
21:41.45Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-64-ga5099d7 Collectinator.lua: [+1 commit] Fix typo stuff.
21:42.35steevAckis: sylvanaar hasn't been active since 2214 CST 29 Oct
21:42.54Ackisyah this shit is whacked then
21:42.59Ackisit's not supposed to save the log :(
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21:54.04Funkeh`documentation is seriously slacking these days
21:54.14Funkeh`both wowpogramming and wowwiki have nothing for GetRaidDifficulty()
21:55.07Stanzilla!api GetRaidDifficulty
21:55.08lua_botGetRaidDifficulty: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetRaidDifficulty)
21:55.15Stanzillayeah nice
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21:56.26Groktar|laptopcasts you into the river of fire
21:57.38ulicisn't GetInstanceDifficulty() used now, or did that split that one into two, I can't remember.
21:57.52Belazor"cannot change a protected metatable" O.o
21:58.20TrelaWARGLE.
21:58.28Trelarandomly stabs Titan Panel.
21:58.29Belazorabout 75% of my addons died cause acelibrary says this
21:58.59yoshimoulic, the functions should be documented nevertheless
21:59.16Funkeh`no it's GetDungeon and GetRaid
21:59.18ArrowmasterBelazor: got a debugstack of when that error happens?
21:59.34Belazorsec Ill give you it when I log back in, if updating doesnt fix it
22:01.43BelazorArrowmaster: nevermind, everything is fine. probably a bad commit got included in an addon somehow
22:05.12NeoTronhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/6466917/Pictures-of-the-day-30-October-2009.html
22:10.43StanzillaAdirelle: you don't care about SSR anymore, right?
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22:29.39Repo10big-wigs: 03yoshimo * r6736 Citadel/Sindragosa.lua:  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
22:29.41Repoadded Code for:
22:29.42Repo-Frost Beacon
22:29.44Repo-Frost Bomb
22:29.45Repo-Blistering Cold
22:37.19sylvanaarhehe
22:37.55Groktar|laptopgazes into sylvanaar's eyes
22:38.25sylvanaarsees groktar is running the fiskerbot
22:39.01Groktar|laptopfisker would never gaze into someone's eyes
22:41.54sylvanaar@describe libdblayers-1-0
22:41.57Reposylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdblayers-1-0/. LibDBLayers-1.0. Manages the SavedVariables of your addon with a layered hierarchy of settings.
22:49.41Repo10visualheal: 03xbeeps 0410.4 * r53 : Tagging as 10.4
22:49.43RepoPull in latest LibHealComm-4.0 with fix to upgrade issue.
23:01.50Groktar|laptopwhere is the part/join spam?
23:01.55Groktar|laptopsummons a netsplit
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23:05.59Repo10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Alpha4-66-g73c98f2 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
23:06.01Repo73c98f2: In GenerateTooltipContent(): Removed the line with the word "Custom" from the Achievement block, since it isn't present in the Custom block and is also not really necessary.
23:06.01Repoab8b68b: Added NEUTRAL, ALLIANCE, and HORDE in Quest.lua to replace 0, 1, and 2 in the AddQuest() calls.
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23:21.40Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6737 Coliseum (3 files in 1 directory):
23:21.42RepoColiseum/Anubarak.lua: Don't strike in 10man more than once before the first burrow.
23:21.43RepoColiseum: Check difficulty again OnEngage for certain mixed raiding situations.
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23:40.24Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r81 / (7 files in 7 directories):
23:40.25RepoLocale update, nil bug on 1236 fix (Black Knight daily), data update
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