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00:11.23Repo10gridstatusrole: 03Sayclub * r11 GridStatusRoleLocale-koKR.lua: koKR update
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00:16.36sylvanaarsztanpet sure
00:27.55sylvanaari just got a steam account today - im going to be poor soon
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01:17.59kenlyricsylvanaar: /comfort
01:18.12Groktarhuggles kenlyric
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01:18.24kenlyricthe last 10 games I've bought I haven't played even 50% of each game
01:18.31kenlyricit's just... there's a SALE
01:18.35Groktarlol
01:18.38Groktari only play wow
01:18.54Groktardon't see how anyone can play wow and still have time for another came + a life
01:19.06kenlyricmostly the problem is lately every game I've bought has had sneaksneaksneak as the main gameplay device
01:19.09kenlyricwhich makes it suck balls
01:19.26Groktarhehe
01:19.35Groktari like killing massive swarms of monsters
01:19.37Groktardiablo ii style
01:19.44kenlyricit's quite easy if you don't play wow that many hours
01:19.56Groktarwhen i played red alert, i would make custom maps with tons of resources
01:20.22Groktarso the ai and i could build swarms of units
01:20.24Groktar:p
01:20.34kenlyricbut, MMOs certainly do account for the lack of playing/finishing other games
01:21.19kenlyricI am still unsure about gta4. I was really unhappy about the amount of stealth play that requires
01:21.44kenlyricI just want to shoot shit, not jump from cover to cover
01:21.57kenlyricin hindsight even at $5 assassin's creed was a bad idea.
01:22.18Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6663 Options/Options.lua:
01:22.20RepoEnclose this sucker (the Configure window contents) in a scroll frame.
01:25.52Torhalnevcairiel: Ackis asked me to ask you to tag LibBabble-Faction
01:26.19pompyTorhal: no
01:26.29pompynev commited after his commit
01:26.48Groktarreverts nevcairiel's commits
01:26.53pompyackis is prolly doing something wrong on his end.. cuz its fine on mine
01:27.22Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r42 Ailo.lua:
01:27.24RepoEven better way of saving raids, makes the strings used in the tooltip customizable
01:29.41Repo10ailo: 03Starfox 041.0.10 * r43 : Tagging as 1.0.10
01:33.58Torhalpompy: Nooblet.
01:36.49pompy~lart Torhal
01:36.49purlgives Torhal a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades"
01:38.55Groktar~rlart
01:38.56purlaccelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets ansik feel it
01:39.08Groktar~botsnack
01:39.08purl:), Groktar
01:41.27Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6664 Plugins (2 files in 2 directories): * Remove all the option descriptions for the colors.
01:41.29Repo* Remove the Core and Bosskill colors.
01:41.30Repo* Change the descriptions for the reset buttons.
01:43.18Ingelaomg only hours until dexteeeeeer
01:44.17Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6665 Plugins (3 files in 1 directory): Remove the description from the Customize ... tab tooltips.
01:44.36Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6666 Core/Core.lua: Remove the Bosskill and Core colors from :Test.
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01:47.10Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6667 Plugins/Locales/enUS.lua: Remove unused locale entries.
01:53.11Mecwhats the event that we should use to save variables?
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01:57.52Gnarfoz!api PLAYER_LOGOUT
01:57.52lua_botPLAYER_LOGOUT: Fires immediately before the player is logged out of the game (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/PLAYER_LOGOUT)
01:59.35Mecthanks
02:06.21Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r195 / (5 files in 4 directories):
02:06.23RepoAdded a spacing option to custom config to insert space breaks.
02:06.24RepoFixed Sunder Armor Spell ID.
02:08.23Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6668 / (2 files in 2 directories):
02:08.25Repo* Anub'arak: Remove the sound for the Cold debuff, add sound for Pursue and P3.
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02:24.36Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2596 ARLFrame.lua: Added "The Ashen Verdict" to the filter GUI.
02:29.05Fisker~kiss Fisker
02:29.06purlACTION forces Fisker to give kd3 a big kiss on the hand
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03:03.01harlwhy do i have achievements for the alliance's side in my achievements windows, although i'm playing horde?
03:03.16harllooks like some kind of a bug
03:03.19Repo10train-conductor: 03casualcorps 04v0.7 * 346a38f /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.7 release for toc 30200
03:03.45Repo10taunt_tattle: 03casualcorps 04v0.7 * 42afd49 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.7 release for toc 30200
03:06.41LienneDid you compare achievements with an alliance player at some point?
03:06.48LienneThat might do it until you relog
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03:08.22harlno, i never inspected achievements of any alliance player afaik
03:10.18Repo10taunt_tattle: 03casualcorps 07master * v0.8 Taunt_Tattle.toc: [+1 commit] TOC 30200 update
03:10.25Repo10taunt_tattle: 03casualcorps 04v0.8 * 0f4b2f4 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.8 release with new toc.. but really the new toc this time
03:10.44Repo10train-conductor: 03casualcorps 07master * v0.8 TrainConductor.toc: [+1 commit] updated TOC
03:10.51Repo10train-conductor: 03casualcorps 04v0.8 * 26a09a9 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.8 release with new toc.. but really the new toc this time
03:11.28Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm 04v4.16 * r147 : Tagging as v4.16
03:11.43Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm 04v4.2 * r79 : Tagging as v4.2
03:11.58Repo10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm 04v2.0 * r34 : Tagging as v2.0
03:14.16harla relog did remove those extra achievements again though.
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03:43.25Groktarwell, further compressing them
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03:52.15ckknightmah hamster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cun04bQ19I
03:54.00Groktarnibbles on it
03:54.30Groktaris cute hampster
03:54.33Groktarom nomnom
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05:01.57Repo10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta10-3-g04ebc57 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
05:01.59Repo04ebc57: In GearGauge:Scan(): Fix return values.
05:02.00Repo85dc815: In ScanMembers(): Move call to GearGauge:Scan() so it will pick up new entries.
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05:07.49Shadowed@project geargauge
05:07.51RepoShadowed: http://www.wowace.com/addons/geargauge/. GearGauge. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 44 days ago. Tickets: 2/4
05:08.58Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * 1.5.2-release-1-g6bb5768 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed Focused Will modifier calculation, supposed to be 0.02 + rank / 100 not 0.02 + rank
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05:59.11Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2598 AckisRecipeList.lua:
05:59.14RepoChanged the recipe tooltip's default anchor to be the right side of the list panel instead of the mouse cursor.
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06:25.34Repo10grid: 03Phanx * r1221 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Alphabetical order please
06:25.36Repo- Unnecessary empty directory is unnecessary
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07:31.26Repo10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r106 / (4 files in 1 directory):
07:31.28RepoFixed slash commands.  Some bug with LDBIcon prevents it from hiding an icon during add on loading, will fix later.
07:32.26Repo10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana 042.0.11 * r107 : Tagging as 2.0.11
07:33.02Repo10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana 042.0.11 Release * r108 : Tagging as 2.0.11 Release
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07:42.56Repo10grid: 03Greltok * r1222 GridFrame.lua:
07:42.57RepoTicket 182 - fixed issue with range filter on buffs/debuffs.
07:47.36Repo10visualheal: 03xbeeps 0410.2 * r51 : Tagging as 10.2
07:47.38RepoPull in LibHealComm-4.0 with fix to Focused Will
07:50.44Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6670 Options/Options.lua: fix the configure frame to render correctly every time
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08:03.20sylvanaargood morning
08:03.44MysticalOSalmost goodnight for me :)
08:03.48sylvanaari can't tell if i am coming or going
08:04.01sylvanaarMysticalOS i added you to LF by the way
08:04.06MysticalOSi see that, thanks
08:05.08sylvanaaranyone have a guess as to when 3.3 will be out?
08:05.25sztanpetmonths, blizzard said
08:05.26MysticalOSdec my guess
08:05.34sylvanaaroh good
08:05.39sztanpetim even guessing it wont come out before christmas
08:05.47sztanpeti might be wrong of course
08:05.49sylvanaareven better!
08:05.49yoshimoenought time to get the tribut run done
08:06.15MysticalOSi doubt my realm will get tribute before 3.3
08:06.15sylvanaarnext year would be nice
08:06.25MysticalOSit's a slow realm on progression
08:06.27sylvanaarwe almost had it 10 man
08:06.35sylvanaarwe still havent downed anub 25
08:06.36sztanpetus too
08:06.40MysticalOSoh on 10 man our group is working on dedicated insanity
08:06.45sylvanaar25hm
08:06.52MysticalOSbut 25 progression si bad on my server
08:06.57MysticalOSserver first algalon was last week
08:07.01MysticalOSif that is any hint
08:07.03yoshimoour server has seen the algalon 25 serverfirst 1month ago
08:07.29yoshimoslow as well
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08:08.13MysticalOSit's a high pop server, way way too many guilds, many skilled players, but hard to get in same place. very high turnovers, people get unhappy, jump to different ship cause there are too many :\
08:08.20sylvanaaryeah
08:08.22MysticalOSbut comprimises synergy of raiding
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08:18.20Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r336 / (3 files in 1 directory):
08:18.22Repoaccumulitive update for RRQ LDB and Scanner. Adjust RRQ to not show again when disabled. Moved some methods around in LDB. Updated name scanner to progressivly scan tooltips (enable debug to watch it)
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08:21.13mitch0hm. is there an MBA traning for wow, too?
08:23.42asmodaiMuhahaha
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08:32.05asmodaiARGH
08:32.09asmodaixkcd ... painful ...
08:33.20[Ammo]nono, awesome
08:37.16Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r178 EnsidiaFails.lua: fix !wipe
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08:46.09Repo10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Alpha4-21-gea03d6b / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
08:46.10Repoea03d6b: Added "The Ashen Verdict" to the reputation filters.
08:46.11Repof0947de: Updated the coordinates for Raider Bork - he moved in 3.2.2
08:46.13Repo91a99de: Added TitleDB and preliminary addon:AddTitle().
08:54.40Wobinasmodai, that happens to a friend of mine
08:54.50Wobinhe'd get disconnected at around 6:15 each evening
08:55.00Wobinwhen the rest of the apartment block started cooking =P
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09:05.06sylvanaarwobin was that you who was talking about tropico 3
09:06.43sylvanaari suppose i could search my irc logs
09:08.07sylvanaarit was Codayus_ actually
09:08.35sylvanaarCodayus_ how is tropico 3?
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09:17.01asmodaiWobin: Oh man, that sucks
09:18.11asmodaiWobin: Not sure what scares me more though
09:18.21asmodaiWobin: Him losing the connection or the whole block using a micro wave
09:19.27Wobinasmodai, it only took one =)
09:21.17Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sztanpet * r128 LibFail-1.0.lua: fix ticket 17 and 18, thanks for the reports Arzach
09:26.43sb|workmorning
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10:20.53syerenAny developers of Grid or LibHealComm 4.0 here?
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10:22.39vhaarry
10:22.59syerenI don't know which addon is at fault :<
10:23.09syeren[2009/10/26 10:18:26-2870-x1]: LibHealComm-4.0-? (LibHealComm-4.0):1495: unexpected symbol near 'end'
10:23.09syerenLocals:
10:23.09syeren---
10:23.37syeren[2009/10/26 10:18:26-2870-x1]: LibHealComm-4.0-? (Grid):1495: unexpected symbol near 'end'
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10:24.07vhaarrsimply a syntax error in LHC, anyone here can fix it
10:24.29vhaarrbut I don't have it checked out, so I'll let some other person do it
10:24.59asmodaiEverytime I see LHC I think Large Hadron Collider >_<
10:25.30Stanzillaeverytime I see "Hadron" i  read "Hardon"
10:25.46krkaYour mom has a large hardon collider
10:25.47syerenIt's causing a lot of errors, and I'm not sure how to fix it vharr :p
10:25.51syerenSo I can't offer to do it!
10:26.01asmodaiStanzilla: XD
10:26.07asmodaisacrifices krka to Fisker
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10:30.28mitch0how did it get past the luac -p in the first place
10:30.29mitch0?
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10:31.37Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6671 / (2 files in 2 directories):
10:31.39Repoonly show color options for those options that are actually available in the toggleoption. Yeah options for options!
10:32.10mitch0ah, maybe luac -p is run before the @do-not-package@ and other funky stuff gets parsed?
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10:33.50yoshimothe lhc4-repository is private so  its impossible to fix it
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10:34.27Torhalkicks Shadowed in the shins.
10:34.33Torhalwhistles innocently.
10:35.23Kalrothaww
10:35.39[Ammo]should have went for the privates
10:36.04KalrothNo, shins is correct, Shadowed doesn't have any privates
10:36.56KalrothBut he's probably sleeping anyways
10:39.03mitch0what's the longest cooldown in wow (for spells/items)? 1 hour?
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10:44.20phybermitch0: 2 days on Mr. Pinchy
10:44.30mitch0eh
10:44.32phybernot sure if it's the longest, but it's quite long.
10:45.27phyber7 days on Certificate of Ownership
10:45.45mitch0wtf is that? :)
10:45.46Kalrothcloth crafting is 3 days and 30 hours
10:45.53phyberlets hunters rename their pets.
10:46.02mitch0ah
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10:56.24Repo10ace3: 03Ammo * r872 AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua:
10:56.26Repomake SimpleGroup behave like an InlineGroup since it's used for option.inline with an empty name
10:57.58Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6672 Options/Options.lua:
10:58.00Repouse a simplegroup to feed the special color options to, this prevents the extra border.
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11:02.30Repo10big-wigs_common-auras: 037destiny * r156 CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: koKR Update
11:04.06Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r129 LibFail-1.0.toc:
11:04.08Repoupdated the Author field, and added @project-revision@ as the minor version in the version field
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12:34.36Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sztanpet * r131 LibFail-1.0.lua: add the AnyFail event, to register for all fails
12:45.01Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6674 / (2 files in 2 directories):
12:45.03Repoget rid of string concat, easier to get to color settings for a module + key
12:45.04Reporename GetColorOptions to SetColorOptions for clarity
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12:57.14mitch0hehe, that's nice :)
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13:11.00sylvanaaranyone have an example of luadoc which includes the CBH methods?
13:11.43sylvanaarsince those arent in teh source
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13:12.31mitch0"see CBH for details" <- :)
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13:18.36sylvanaar=/
13:21.23steevmorning sirs
13:29.13sylvanaarhrm, no .pkgmeta thats wierd
13:29.24orionshockfor cbh?
13:29.50sylvanaarno for libfail, maybe thats why the .docmeta stopped working
13:30.40Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r132 .pkgmeta: add .pkgmeta
13:30.46sylvanaarlets see
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13:31.32orionshocktbh, sylvanaar for CBH in docs, you really shouldn't auto gen anything. using cbh means call backs & the doc's should indicate what variables it passes to that call back. kinda annoying when those arn't stated somewhere
13:31.49Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r133 .pkgmeta: oops lol
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13:32.47Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6675 / (4 files in 2 directories):
13:32.49Repomake custom colors work for everything that uses the bossPrototype API
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13:34.06mitch0did I mention that CBH's use of "self" is like confusing?
13:34.21orionshocknot really
13:35.36mitch0well, it uses "self" for every "first argument", even when that doesn't make much sense. just my opinion though, but it gave me a headache last time I wanted to wrap my head around it...
13:35.53[Ammo]learn to code
13:36.20mitch0ammo: you mean like calling a setter GetSomething? :P
13:36.30orionshockyour reading "self is the first arg" into it, when that's what you've been doing all along with ace2 methods
13:36.33[Ammo]it's a getter :p
13:36.42sztanpethttp://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-userlevel/2009/10/24/msg002827.html
13:36.45[Ammo]but it's also a setter
13:36.47sztanpetooh, funky
13:37.49mitch0hey sztanpet, did you catch my request like 2 days ago about Bazooka and the missing feeds?
13:37.52orionshockreally all CBH did was expose the  [[ self.function(self, ...) ]] syntax vs the [[ self:function(...) ]]  that everyone's used too
13:37.56sztanpetnop
13:38.36[Ammo]and because cbh doesn't allow itself as the first param you have to pass in your own 'self' :)
13:38.44mitch0ok, so if you have some time, please give Bazooka another go and open a ticket or something listing the feeds you have that don't show up in it. thanks
13:38.57Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r134 / (3 files in 3 directories): update .pkgmeta with library embeds in the proper place
13:38.59Repo***
13:39.00Repofix slashes
13:40.40Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar 041.0.135 * r135 : Tagging as 1.0.135 to update associations
13:41.19mitch0orion, ammo: my problem with CBH and self is that it would make the code a lot more readable to use "handler" or somesuch for that param (even though it _is_ the first param)
13:41.48mitch0like, lib.RegisterCallback(hanlder, func, params)
13:41.50sylvanaari just want some default documentation
13:41.53sylvanaar!!
13:42.08mitch0s/typo//
13:43.18sylvanaar!!
13:45.30[Ammo]sylvanaar: stop being lazy
13:46.05sylvanaar[Ammo] =(
13:46.21sylvanaari am being lazy, its tre
13:46.30sylvanaars/tre/true/
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13:48.02sylvanaari think the documenter is stuck
13:49.31orionshockok, 3c here about CC4 and Tickets... this is bad without require email subscriptions to that ticket being updated. This whole "fire and forget ticket from CC4" is going to get really irritating with people that don't know how to write tickets or follow up
13:49.58sylvanaarwork in progress
13:50.30sylvanaarthe tickets need 2 things, auto-expiry, and emails to the submitter
13:51.00sylvanaarie, the submitter gets notified when his/her ticket expires
13:51.19sylvanaarplus all the other stuff, like comments etc
13:53.42sylvanaaror
13:54.07sylvanaarthe option to not allow reports from cc maybe idk
13:54.14Repo10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r6676 / (7 files in 3 directories): BigWigs:
13:54.16Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
13:54.17Repo- cheanup.
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13:55.15orionshockmaybe it's just me, but translators commiting directly to a project as big as bigwigs just looks wrong...
13:55.52sylvanaarhe's cheaning up
13:55.54[Ammo]naah
13:55.55mitch0sztanpet: nice flamewar resulted on that netbsd+lua thing :)
13:56.01[Ammo]if they touch anything but the locale files
13:56.10[Ammo]I will get him raped by a rabid pack of gay gorillas
13:56.11profalbertwell, in bigwigs some functionality depends on correct transations, I guess
13:56.25[Ammo]and the translation system is a pile of POO
13:56.40sylvanaarwell, it needs some way to trigger rebuild of the zip
13:56.51sylvanaarbut
13:57.20[Ammo]with this new bigwigs at least the foreignese have their own little corners to play in
13:57.22orionshockwell big wigs dosn't use the usually seen format for translations so the localization app would mess things up more than help
13:57.34sylvanaarok
13:57.55[Ammo]orionshock: indeed it doesn't
13:58.04[Ammo]but that's not the reason I'll never use the translation app
13:58.52orionshock?  is it the thing about SVN checkouts being broken?
13:59.05sylvanaarthats easy enough to work around
13:59.35[Ammo]svn checkouts being broken, no automatic repackage trigger
13:59.48[Ammo]and being a fucked up webapp
13:59.57[Ammo]I like my source to be my source
14:00.07mitch0and no history/rollback
14:00.20[Ammo]besides bigwigs has a pretty decent group of translators nowadays
14:00.54orionshockmeh, i like it tbh. for my dailies addon the web app is kind of a god-send. it made translating the addon 10x easier
14:03.19[Ammo]to each their own
14:03.34orionshock^^
14:03.45[Ammo]but at least this gets bigwigs translations to the masses quicker :p
14:03.59Repo10big-wigs_common-auras: 03ananhaid * r157 CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras:
14:04.01Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
14:04.05sylvanaaron the alphas
14:04.09[Ammo]yup
14:04.13[Ammo]which a lot of people run
14:04.14sylvanaaryep
14:04.36Repo10ailo: 03Starfox 041.0.11 * r44 : Tagging as 1.0.11, now with all da localization strings
14:05.18[Ammo]time to ponder on how to fix the Super Emhasize option
14:05.31sylvanaarSuper-Glue
14:06.17sylvanaarthought it was funny
14:07.47sylvanaarthe localization app is good - because it gets around xlators having to use 3 different vcs systems
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14:08.53orionshockor remembering to close the line properly. with the " and , at the end
14:08.58sylvanaarthat too
14:09.28sylvanaarthough the syntax check catches alot of that
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14:34.35Repo657142b: Some of the argent tourney mounts aren't reputation, just require you to be a champion.
14:34.36Repo91f921d: ToC -> 30300
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14:49.28Pneumatusyou lose, Ackis
14:53.54Shadowedmmm
14:53.56Shadowednot supposed to be private
14:54.01Shadowedoops
14:55.13Shadowedmmm must not have hit save when I commited again
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14:59.39Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-28-g1966654 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
14:59.41Repo1966654: Add bloodsail, winterspring to rep GUI, mark all the other original reps as disabled since there are no pets/etc for them.
14:59.42Repo5f42775: Add the new rep coming out to the SV's, Torhal I think you missed that part.
14:59.44Repo80c7ba1: Localize the db load error message.
14:59.45Repo2586c69: Convert some more items to using the flag constants.
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15:10.29Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r672 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Fix Ticket 22
15:10.31Repo- Correct typo for svn localizations
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15:32.04mitch0shadowed: yo. is SUF much better than agUF? :P
15:32.11Shadowedone is maintained
15:32.13Shadowedthe other isn't
15:32.33mitch0PB4 is also maintained. that alone wouldn't make me switch  :)
15:33.24ShadowedI can't answer a question that is opinion based
15:33.24mitch0yeah, was just kidding really
15:33.26Shadowedthe only reason agUF still runs is basically nevcairiel does patches, using agUF in general isn't generally a good plan if you want something reliable :p
15:33.36asmodaiHahaha, managed to get my colleagues excited for Core Wars
15:33.45mitch0it only errors if I join a party mid-fight :P
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15:34.21mitch0shadowed: just one quick question: is it possible to use traditional 2d portraits?
15:34.25Shadowedyes
15:41.46Groktarturns off portraits
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15:51.32mitch0I keep them for target and focus to see if they're happily mowing grass or not
16:09.10Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-33-g0b311bd Frame.lua: [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
16:09.12Repo0b311bd: Fix a typo.
16:09.13Repo2bc7773: Add the city/pvp factions to the gui.
16:09.14Repo66c6905: Forgot part of the auto-check/uncheck stuff for the wrath common factions.
16:09.15Repoda3d204: Disable some of theBC reps.  Make some of the wrath reps auto-check/uncheck.
16:15.30Shadowedbah
16:15.38ShadowedGrid pulls latest repo version of LHC4
16:15.40Shadowednot tag :|
16:18.36Fiskerslaps Shadowed around a bit with a large trout
16:18.55ShadowedNot my fault they pull alpha versions
16:20.24Pneumatusgrid grid, or grid2?
16:20.31Shadowedgrid
16:20.34Shadowedgrid
16:21.35Pneumatuslooks like some random guy has started patching it...
16:28.40Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-38-g5c0a2c2 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
16:28.42Repo5c0a2c2: Actually print out the warcraft pets string.
16:28.43Repo7f4d6d0: Only check the appropiate number of flags for the text dump, don't go into all the things.
16:28.44Repoe04fce7: Add functionality for slash commands, you can now do /collectinator scan to scan your stuffz.
16:28.46Repobf4b05a: Add functionality for the text dump and for warcraftpets dump in.  Shift-click for warcraft pets, alt-shift click for text dump.
16:30.00Ackisthinks collectinator is now broke, how long til Torhal fixes what I've dry-coded?
16:30.33ckknightwaves at the nice people
16:30.37Shadoweddepends
16:30.38ckknightbeware of swine flu!
16:30.39Shadowed~soon Torhal
16:30.42Shadowedbah
16:30.44Shadowed~seen Torhal
16:30.45purltorhal is currently on #wowprogramming (1d 3h 1m 27s) #wowuidev (1d 3h 1m 27s) #arl (1d 3h 1m 27s) #wowace (1d 3h 1m 27s) #curseforge (1d 3h 1m 27s). Has said a total of 31 messages. Is idling for 5h 47m 9s, last said: 'Yes, I went there.'.
16:30.56Shadowed6 hours, give or take
16:31.35Groktarcorgraths ckknight
16:31.43Ackislol Shadowed
16:31.58ckknightno, Groktar
16:32.00ckknightno.
16:32.34Groktar:(
16:32.40Groktarbut that guy was brilliant
16:32.55Funkeh`is there some magic sauce to getting vista to update to the latest windows update agent
16:33.00Funkeh`checking for updates just says none
16:33.11Groktarwat
16:33.23StanzillaFunkeh`: manually isntall it
16:33.53Funkeh`Stanzilla, gah
16:34.07Funkeh`I have to manually install for some new pretty icons
16:34.08Funkeh`fail
16:34.47Stanzillaits not only pretty new icons :p
16:35.29Groktarhmm
16:35.35Groktari was about to try parrot
16:35.43Groktarbut in the description it claims to eat my crackers
16:35.54Groktarnot sure i'm comfortable with that
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16:38.50StanzillaFunkeh`: you can install the platform update and directx11, too :D
16:43.34GroktarACK
16:43.58Stanzillaor just use win7!
16:44.11Groktarprat editbox just scared me
16:44.30Funkeh`I have win7
16:44.36Funkeh`wont be installing it for a few weeks
16:45.10Stanzillawhy?
16:45.22Groktarit was on the bottom and a spooky color
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16:55.42fewynhttp://news.slashdot.org/story/09/10/26/1359223/Geocities-Shutting-Down-Today
16:57.02Pneumatusabout damn time
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17:19.11Funkeh`Stanzilla, manually updated it, but I dont see it listing DX11 now
17:20.17steevwhich pvp cloak do i get as a dk, the one with hit or the one with crit
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17:21.06Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6677 Options/Options.lua: wipe them slaves asses when they're not there
17:21.46steevdo what
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17:24.54[Ammo]steev: prevent an error on  line 510 because I'm trying to access released slaves
17:24.59[Ammo]:p;
17:25.52steevi figured you liked to wipe others' asses :-P
17:26.25[Ammo]wipe(slaves) is the diff :p
17:26.28[Ammo]so yeah
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17:32.03StanzillaFunkeh`: DirectX 11 for Vista SP2 will be released on Tuesday, October 27, 2009
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17:47.34NeoTronis planning to upgrade his lock's shoulders with triumph badge gear. go go ilevel 164 => 245
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17:47.55nevcairiel164? whats that? early level green/blue?
17:48.21nevcairielits too high for BC raid gear, unless i forgot that level range
17:49.06yoshimosunwell is 164
17:49.19nevcairielwasnt that 158?
17:49.32ThaokyLK quests, blue reward in grizzly hills more or less
17:49.36yoshimo159 but thoridal and other loot of kj is 164
17:50.15nevcairielbut kj doesnt drop shoulders
17:50.20nevcairielonly helmets
17:50.27nevcairieland some hands
17:51.18nevcairielin fact, there isnta  single shoulder item at 164
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17:51.22nevcairielNeoTron must be nuts :P
17:59.59Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6678 / (2 files in 2 directories): deDE update
18:00.44Repo10big-wigs_common-auras: 03mojosdojo * r158 CommonAuras.lua: deDE updates
18:02.11NivFreaksunwell shoulders
18:02.15NivFreakscrolls down
18:03.06FiskerZeksie
18:03.19CrazyBennywhat would be good replacement for Cowtip?
18:04.04NivFreakand you're right, his shoulders are ilvl 159 ;)
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18:08.14harlis there a way to flag the wowace svn archiver to keep older file copies in an archive?
18:08.29nevcairielit keeps every file
18:11.13harlin the actual archive? shouldn't it just collect file entries and then create a new archive from the uncompressed files?
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18:11.55nevcairieli probably don't get what you mean :P
18:12.12harlhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=9584#comments
18:12.15harllast 3 posts
18:12.23harllast=latest
18:12.45Ackisnevcairiel: did you see Torhal's comment last night about the babble faction tag?
18:12.59nevcairieli sleep during nights
18:13.01nevcairielusually
18:13.19Ackisjust wanted to know if you read the scroll back :P
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18:13.31Ackisanyways, the script didn't tag a new release, not sure if you intended that or not
18:14.12nevcairielit only tags releases when i run a second script
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18:14.43nevcairielharl: i know why, he f'cked up his packaging settings
18:14.46harlAlexia wrote that his/her archive was coming from the wowace svn, but there are duplicate files in that current version of flagRSP2, so either Alexia or the automatic archiver's done something wrong.
18:14.51Ackisok I wasn't sure how it worked, wanted to point it out in case something broke
18:14.59harlok, nevcairiel.
18:31.32Repo10big-wigs_common-auras: 03Pettigrow * r159 / (2 files in 1 directory): frFR Update
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18:34.32Repo- Minor change, can't remember what it was.
18:35.03sztanpetdazgreat
18:35.27Repo10jebus-mail: 03jebus905 04v3.20a * r55 : JebusMail:
18:35.29Repo- Minor change, can't remember what I did, it was a while ago
18:35.47kadrahilslaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout
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19:18.53Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r196 Utopia.lua:
19:18.55RepoShould no longer mess up after Right Clicking LDB icon finding Utopia in the addons list when there are fewer addons than display lines.
19:19.27Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.1-4-g0c4e68a / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
19:19.29Repo0c4e68a: add "Soul Shard" support to Loot-module
19:19.30Repo86dc22a: remove closure when no check-function is present
19:20.20yoshimoevents depend on the servertime, dont they?
19:28.32NeoTronnevcairiel: 164 = SWP shoulders
19:28.41nevcairielwowhead disagrees
19:28.52NeoTronsorry it's 159
19:28.53nevcairielonly 164 items are KJ drops
19:28.56NeoTronhttp://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=34210
19:30.33Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r197 Utopia.lua: And make that same thing work better the 2nd time around..
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19:45.13steevwoot!
19:45.15steevFor the Horde!
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19:48.14steevblack warbear goodness + stable keeper
19:48.33NeoTronugly bear
19:48.38NeoTronsure isn't a ZA bear
19:48.43NeoTronWotLK has no cool ground mounts
19:48.45NeoTronat all
19:48.49nevcairielthe ZA bear is best
19:48.57nevcairieli'm glad i got it
19:48.58NeoTronmammoth was cool until you realized it's simply too big
19:49.14nevcairieleveryone and their mother runs around on some kind of mammoth
19:49.18nevcairielthey are so annyoing
19:49.27NeoTronI need to figure out a way to get 9 other peoeple to help me (and themselves) get the ulduar 10 drake on my warlock though
19:49.42NeoTronI have the green proto on her, but no 310 mount
19:49.52pentium166everyone sitting around the collosseum on their dragons is really annoying
19:50.05Groktarcorgraths nevcairiel
19:50.14CrazyBennymeh, proto drakes are ugly
19:50.18NeoTronI was hoping for a new troll raid + troll mount
19:50.26NeoTronCrazyBenny: they are, by far, my favorite flying mount
19:50.35NeoTronmy DK has 4 of them
19:50.41CrazyBennyI'm more of a gryphon person :P
19:50.46NeoTrongreen, red, bronzed and plagued
19:51.05CrazyBennyand plagues being the worst:S
19:51.13nevcairielthe plagued is ugly
19:51.19NeoTronI love the plagued
19:51.24Groktarputs corgrath in charge of curse
19:51.24NeoTronbut I like the bronzed one better
19:51.28nevcairielbronze proto drake? where is that from again?
19:51.32NeoTronulduar 10
19:51.35nevcairielah
19:51.45nevcairieli only have the black, but i love it
19:51.46stolenlegacytime-lost is a drop from a rarespawn
19:51.52stolenlegacythat one's bronze aswell
19:51.57NeoTronyeah. unfortunately slow
19:52.01nevcairieli'm like 2 achievements short of red, but was too lazy
19:52.05NeoTronbut the ulduar 10 one has glyphs on it.. for some reason
19:52.16NeoTronserver first red proto
19:52.24NeoTronprobably one of the biggest highlights of wotlk
19:52.33nevcairieli liked doing the achievements
19:52.42NeoTronwe were just a 10 man raiding guild then too, so no 25-man gear. 2 minute anub kill was challenging
19:52.42nevcairielbut i'm lacking some silly ones i just have to do
19:52.58yoshimostorm peaks is full of people which are waiting 24/7 for the timelost drake, no way to get it ;)
19:53.00Groktarthinks runes fit for an ulduar mount
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19:53.11NeoTronyoshimo: the name I find is very suitable and clearly intended
19:53.16NeoTrontime lost [waiting for spawn]
19:53.28NeoTronGroktar: it fits. just wondering why they are there :P
19:53.44yoshimoi know, but during my weekly herbfarmingsessions i killed vyragosa 4times ;)
19:54.32MysticalOSi've seen vyragosa 4 times and the dirkee twice. time lost once
19:54.59MysticalOSthe one time i saw time lost my lazy ass took the griffen to ulduar instead of flying there, i flew right over him and started yelling at keyboard
19:55.14MysticalOSby time i turned around he was dead of course
19:55.18Groktarbecause it's made of iron
19:55.21Groktarnot flesh
19:55.23Groktar>.>
19:55.40CrazyBennyMysticalOS: yeah, happened to me aswell....sad moment :P
19:55.41NeoTronhehe
19:55.49Groktar(and ironbound poops on rusted)
19:55.50NeoTronI killed the blue dragon.. in beta
19:56.00NeoTronI like both of them
19:56.14Groktarrusted isn't especially distinctive
19:56.15NeoTronI wish I had a black one and I think the lack of one is a large part of my then-guild slowly dying
19:56.22NeoTronit's awesome
19:56.26MysticalOSshit on my server everyone and their alt has rusted
19:56.29NeoTroniron bound is just another black one :P
19:56.30Groktar^
19:56.35MysticalOSi have 2 of them working on a third, some people in my guild already have 3
19:56.35Groktarer
19:56.41Groktari was agreeing with MysticalOS
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19:56.53NeoTronI don't really care if it's "common". I just like how it looks
19:56.56NeoTronsame as the ZA bear
19:56.59NeoTronnot like that's rare
19:57.00MysticalOSbut ironbound 25 have on my server, that's it, cause whisperwind is terrible for 25 man progression :)
19:57.38Groktari never got the proto drakes from t8 raids
19:57.40MysticalOSrusted looks good, not like the retarded purple drake I refuse to use
19:57.45Groktarbecause all the retarded achievements made me rage
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20:00.06steevwow
20:00.09steevonly 1hk in exodar
20:01.07kenlyricall these people crying about lack of dedicated servers
20:01.18kenlyricin my day you put servers on your 486 and liked it
20:01.38Repo10bunch-of-bars: 03Mininova * r108 / (5 files in 2 directories): BunchOfBars:
20:01.40Repo- Added ReadyCheck module
20:08.08asmodaiDedicated servers? We used IPX dammit!
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20:08.51hadgehello
20:09.28hadgehello anyone here
20:09.51hadgehelo
20:09.52steevsometimes
20:09.52hadgehello
20:09.59hadgeSorry for spam
20:10.00hadgewas testing
20:10.00steevjust ask your question
20:10.08hadgeAnyone arena here
20:10.31steevi have, but not in a while
20:10.35hadgeI connected via irssi, and wasnt sure if it was working
20:10.41*** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net)
20:10.49hadgeWhat did you run
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20:11.44hadgeMalorne anyone?
20:11.51steevrogue/druid, shaman/warlock/priest
20:11.59hadgewhat season
20:12.00steevdk/druid
20:12.03hadgeeww
20:12.09hadgedk's runined arena
20:12.14steevyour mom ruined arena
20:12.21hadgestill pwn them with SL SL/drood tho
20:12.32hadgefeel free to armory my 3k druid br0
20:12.38hadgeelitekilla
20:12.49steevdon't care brah
20:12.53hadgeDk druid lawl
20:12.55hadgeCHAINS OF ICE
20:12.59hadgeIM GOOD NOW
20:13.13hadgelemme guess u sucked in BC, and rolled a DK cuz its eazy mode and ui want to win
20:13.19hadgel2p bro
20:13.39steevno, i rolled a dk cuz northrend was laggy as fuck at launch
20:13.40hadgenon of yall got shit on my skills
20:13.47hadgelol bro
20:13.49asmodaimust've entered troll land
20:13.49steevnewsflash though
20:14.01steevthis is a channel more towards development of addons brah
20:14.04hadgeNewsflash bro: you suck unstall pl0x
20:14.16hadgean addon for me owning u still?
20:14.25steevmoving on
20:14.26hadgeI have it its called uninstall all gmas scrub
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20:14.40hadgethree words
20:14.42hadgeGET
20:14.44hadgeREAL
20:15.08steevasmodai: nerd rage is awesome
20:15.19hadgeno u
20:15.22hadger not awesome
20:15.27hadgebut seriously a dk
20:15.30hadgeget some skill kid
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20:15.42steevyou are missing the third word still
20:15.54hadgeNo
20:15.57hadgeL2 count
20:16.09steev15:14 < hadge> three words
20:16.09steev15:14 < hadge> GET
20:16.09steev15:14 < hadge> REAL
20:16.09steev15:15 < steev> asmodai: nerd rage is awesome
20:16.09steev15:15 < hadge> no u
20:16.22hadgeno u
20:16.25hadgeno u
20:16.27hadgeno u
20:16.30hadgeno u
20:16.32hadgeno u
20:16.34asmodainevcairiel: ping
20:16.35hadgeno u
20:16.37hadgeno u
20:16.40hadgeno u
20:16.42hadgeno u
20:16.45hadgeno u
20:16.47hadgeno u
20:16.50hadgeno u
20:16.51*** mode/#wowace [+b *!n=hadge@74.63.196.*] by nevcairiel
20:16.55asmodaiDanke.
20:17.06steevouch
20:17.23nevcairielwtf did you do to him? :P
20:17.37steevi told him i played a dk/druid 2 seasons ago
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20:18.22Thaokylesson of the day: never tell a 13-yo kid you played dk/druid :p
20:18.28kadrahilmore like
20:18.38asmodailoves knowing nevcairiel responds to pings
20:18.40kadrahillesson of the day: don't respond to anyone that claims they play on bad servers
20:18.44nevcairielI played druid/lock in season 1 in BC, now that was awesome
20:18.45kadrahil16:11 <hadge> Malorne anyone?
20:19.19asmodaiok, no offense, but why does it always feel US WoW is more filled with retards than EU?
20:19.46sztanpeti cant see the difference
20:19.47Stanzillabecause US people are 90% retards irl
20:19.49Stanzilla:(
20:20.01kadrahil...
20:20.05sztanpetoh, we are at the same level too here
20:20.25sztanpetat least the religicity is muc much lower
20:20.45steevi'm 100% retard
20:20.53asmodaiSeriously? I still find EU a bit refreshing
20:20.57asmodaipats steev
20:21.19steevlove seeing nerd rage though
20:21.22steevit makes me giggle
20:22.06Thaokyanyone gonna try torchlight tomorrow ?
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20:27.36asmodaiTorchlight, remind me what it was?
20:27.44NeoTronif you think WoW is filled with retards, you didn't play Aion :P
20:28.38Thaokyfrom Runic Games, the guys who started Flagship (Mythos).. ex-blizzard guys (Schaeffer brothers & Bill Roper back then), or more simply, a cool hack'n slash until D3 is released :)
20:30.05Shirikyou know nevcairiel
20:30.24ShirikShiibot would totally destroy you in ban speed :P
20:30.27asmodaiNeoTron: I am playing that at the moment.
20:30.38asmodaiThaoky: Ahhh right
20:31.57Axodiousproviding i dont have to work (again) i should have transcripts for the next few days of ptr testing
20:32.03Axodiousfor those interetsed
20:33.25Shiriksteev: How dare you play a dk/druid
20:33.25Shirikwtf
20:34.46steevi know right?
20:35.06steevi didn't bother pointing out the obvious with him playing a druid...
20:35.23NeoTronsteev: no u
20:35.36NeoTronseriously what goes through the mind of someone like that hadge dude
20:36.52steevno idea
20:37.18steevi think it was the your mom joke that pissed him off though - and it was kinda mean, i mean he does stay at her house free of charge, doing his laundry and cooking for him
20:37.26steevshes a nice lady
20:38.28Shirik...
20:39.43NeoTronseemed like playing a DK was the trigger
20:40.13NeoTronbecause playing one obviously meant you sucked in pvp and has no right to pvp among the leetness of elitekilla
20:40.25NeoTronthe name elitekilla alone says everything I need to know about that douchebag though
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21:12.20Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r373 / (2 files in 1 directory): add back alpha spam
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21:16.56SchnittlauchHello
21:19.08Stanzillanom nom Schnittlauch
21:19.36Schnittlauchu know what Schnittlauch is? :o
21:19.49Grumits not SchittLaunch at least!
21:20.03Stanzillayes I do
21:20.12Schnittlauchcool :P
21:20.27GrumSchnittlauch ist eine ausdauernde krautige Pflanze !
21:21.24Schnittlauchcool, hier ist deutsch sprechen erlaubt? ^^
21:21.28sb|workno
21:21.35Schnittlauchdamn
21:21.42Stanzilla=D
21:22.22Grumno
21:22.26Grumi just copied it from wikipedia
21:22.33Grumand i looked really smart .. and german .. BLEHHH
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21:23.44yoshimonetherlands isnt that far away
21:24.29Grumi know
21:24.38Grumhence the /hate!
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21:39.17Groktarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do6pmYfNco0
21:43.42asmodaiGroktar can't tank!
21:43.43asmodairuns
21:43.49Groktar^
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21:46.40asmodaiwow
21:46.45asmodaiAnd just drives off like that
21:47.07asmodaiThat white car got its nose banged up pretty bad
21:47.46asmodaiNot that the other one will be much better.
21:48.00asmodaiLooks like that driver hit gas instead of either break or shift
21:48.50Groktarpeople like that are allowed to reproduce :(
21:50.01NeoTronGroktar: so I find it pretty amazing that the car managed to drive up on the other cars like that
21:50.12NeoTronand that's such a typical "hit gas instead of brake" fails
21:50.16ckknightnew developer jobs: http://www.wowace.com/jobs/
21:50.41SchnittlauchNo results found.
21:50.45NeoTronindeed
21:50.54ckknightgoddammit
21:51.13HjalteI see two jobs
21:51.17Groktari can has job?
21:51.18RepoKnowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/jobs/net-web-developer/ by Adamar
21:51.26RepoKnowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/jobs/php-web-developer/ by Adamar
21:51.29ckknightfixed
21:51.35ckknightwth, I updated that
21:51.38Brybryif you can afford a BMW why would you make your accident a crime by driving off...
21:51.38ckknightshakes fist at Repo
21:51.51Groktarhay, i have no asp.net experience
21:51.55Groktarcan i has job anyway?
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21:52.08ckknightGroktar: do you know PHP?
21:52.11ckknightwe have one of those jobs
21:52.17Groktarya
21:52.27ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/jobs/php-web-developer/
21:52.39Groktari finally got my lazy ass to look at asp.net
21:52.48Groktarand it took me about 5 seconds to see why you hate php
21:53.00Groktarseparating logic and presentation is so natural
21:53.36ckknightGroktar: well, we've been using ASP.NET MVC
21:53.41ckknightwhich is a good bit better than normal ASP.NET
21:54.01ckknightalso, the framework I've helped design alleviates a huge number of issues.
21:54.07Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r45 Ailo.lua: Config; Add button to wipe the db
21:54.09Groktaroh?
21:54.36ckknightyea, it autogenerates models from the DB, with a whole bunch of niceties, it provides a very nice caching framework
21:54.42ckknighta forms library
21:54.57ckknightwe were able to serve 12k pages/sec on our prototype
21:55.24NeoTronBrybry: you can imagine the driver sitting in the car trying to decide what to do
21:55.31Megalonckknight: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ailo/repositories/mainline/packager/#w-packager-start-2009-10-26t14-04-33-652860
21:55.45Megalonany clue why the packager thinks that the repo has locks on it?
21:55.59Megalonor why it doesn't make zips from normal revision anymore :S
21:56.06ckknighturg
21:56.12ckknightcan't mess with it now, in Windows
21:56.14ckknightis Kaelten alive?
21:56.22Kaeltenhrm?
21:56.26ulicI hope so :)
21:56.29Megalonk, just wanted to point at it
21:56.36NeoTronsure as hell hope so. I'm not prepared for a zombie apocalypse just yet
21:56.37ckknightKaelten: see the dilly-o with http://www.wowace.com/addons/ailo/repositories/mainline/packager/#w-packager-start-2009-10-26t14-04-33-652860
21:56.38Megalonbecause the packager did it until r11.zip
21:56.40KaeltenI'm flu ridden not the black death
21:57.07ckknightKaelten: hey, it's your fault for making out with pigs
21:57.08Groktarjust curious, how did you end up with some in php and some in asp.net?
21:57.22Kaeltenugh
21:57.28Kaeltenfucking locked repos
21:58.24ckknightGroktar: we acquire a lot of PHP sites, yet Curse.com , WowDB.com, CCv4 and plenty others were written in .NET
21:58.53Kaeltenfixed
21:59.05KaeltenGroktar: and curseforge's code is in python
21:59.25Megalonok, thanks, did it involve something I did? or just a random wowace hickup :O
21:59.33ckknightit's always your fault, Megalon
21:59.44Megalonnaw, it's always Fisker's fault
21:59.48Groktarah
21:59.51Kaeltenmegalon: not sure, let me know if it happens again
21:59.55Groktarjust how big is curse?
22:00.13KaeltenGroktar: small
22:00.13Groktari only knew about wowace and curse/curseforge
22:00.13Megaloni'll do
22:00.13Hjalte<-------------->
22:00.26ckknightGroktar: big how?
22:00.26Kaeltenwell small as far as business size goes
22:00.26ckknightGroktar: employee-wise, line count-wise?
22:00.33Groktarmm, number of sites
22:00.46Kaelten20-30, but that's a guess
22:00.47ckknightoh, we got a whole bunch now
22:00.53ckknightyea, 20-30 sounds about right
22:00.57Groktarjust wondering what you meant by "we acquire a lot of PHP sites"
22:01.09ckknightAionsource.com
22:01.10ckknightfor instance
22:01.21Kaeltenwell not all are aquisitions
22:01.24Kaeltenbut many are
22:01.37ckknightdo we have any PHP sites that aren't acquisions?
22:01.42Kaeltenoh ya
22:01.48Kaeltenbunches of small fansites
22:02.00ckknightah
22:02.00ckknightyea, the wiki sites
22:02.12ckknightand other fansites
22:02.12Kaeltenthose, and some forum based ones too
22:02.12ckknightyea
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22:02.50Kaeltenhttp://www.quantcast.com/p-d2K9aGgyU-tIA#subdomain is a partial list
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22:04.04IngelaUS Servers * Monday, October 26 at 7PM EDT / 4PM PDT – Festergut
22:04.15Ingelahow long time left until that US folks?
22:04.27ckknightan hour
22:04.30fewynone hour
22:04.34Ingelanice!
22:05.25ckknightKaelten: looks like we don't have nearly enough traffic going to sc2mapster :P
22:05.26yoshimomaybe i understand the strategy this time
22:05.31Kaeltenlol
22:05.42Kaeltenya, we just need to randomly redirect people there so they can see the cool skin
22:05.58ckknightlol
22:06.00Groktarpoor sc2mapster :(
22:06.10ckknightI want SC2 nao!
22:06.14ckknightgimmeh, Groktar
22:06.15Kaeltendon't we all?
22:06.21Trela...OMG Pledgie works.  :O
22:06.25ckknightGroktar has the hookup
22:06.28ckknight...I can sense it
22:06.50Stanzillaanyone here got the torrent file for the 1,6gb enGB ptr patch? the wirebrain one is down :(
22:06.57Groktarhey, i had good luck with tbc and wotlk beta invites
22:07.06Groktargot them in the first couple rounds
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22:07.22TrelaPHP Web Developer opening?  ...This could be my lucky day.
22:07.51Groktarnooo! stay away from it
22:08.20TrelaHuntsville, AL... Sort of want.
22:08.49KaeltenTrela: ya we have one, you get bonus points for.net or python experiance
22:09.08KaeltenTrela: huntsville is a cool place
22:09.15Kaeltenbeen here a year and a half so far
22:09.22Kaeltenit's a cheap place to live too
22:09.25Groktarcan't be worse than fresno :p
22:09.32TrelaKaelten: I am currently in the process of developing an entire web site based on Python/dJango.  :P
22:09.49Kaeltendjango? my sympathies
22:10.00TrelaI actually like it.
22:10.01Kaeltenbut then again I haven't used it since pre 1.0 so hopefully it's improved
22:10.35KaeltenI liked it too, but it was only a matter of time before we started running into it's limitations
22:10.55TrelaIt takes a bit of a mental wrap to get out of normal web coding habits into 'dJango' habits.
22:11.21Kaeltencurseforge is based on similar practices, but better frameworks.
22:11.35Kaeltenof course that's subjective and all
22:11.53Kaeltensqlalchemy, werkzeug, jinja2, wtforms, and gypsy
22:12.19Kaeltendb, wsgi, templates, forms, and application layer respectively
22:12.49TrelaEh, it sounds tempting to apply since my future is unknown at my current place.  However, I love snow(Pennsylvania) and heavy southern accents bother the crap out of me.  They just do, can not explain it.
22:13.23Kaeltenmost people in huntsville aren't from huntsville
22:13.23ajmitchis a little too far away from huntsville to apply
22:13.23Kaeltenso not many accents
22:13.29Kaeltenand we had snow flurries last winter
22:13.35Kaeltenso.... kinda snow
22:13.49TrelaI like my six feet of snow.  :3
22:14.01Groktarheh, never snows here
22:14.08Kaeltenya, that'd be a world ending snow here.
22:14.11Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r46 Ailo.lua:
22:14.12Groktarso as a child the first couple times there was hail
22:14.12RepoGet rid of old raidID's when we met the timestamp of the earliest reset.
22:14.14RepoGet the new timestamp after those raidID's were removed
22:14.26Groktari wanted to outside and play in the "snow"
22:14.29Kaeltenlol
22:14.45Kaeltengot hit in the head a few times Groktar?
22:14.59Groktarhaha, my parents didn't like that idea much
22:15.05Kaeltenlol
22:15.56TrelaHopefully people there do not freak out and go 10MPH when it threatens to snow.(Like Virginia)
22:16.04Groktaroh my
22:16.19NivFreaksteev: I assume you saw through that obvious troll? :P
22:16.31Groktarthey probably slow down to 10-15mph
22:16.37Groktarlike a bunch of old ladies
22:16.45KaeltenTrela: na not that bad, but if there was 5 inches on the ground I'd be scared of what they'd do
22:16.48Kaeltenhell even 1 inch
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22:17.53TrelaMost of the people in Virginia are there because of the government from other places.  I was there for three months and saw more vehicles spun out on the side of the road than I ever did in eighteen years of Pennsylvania.
22:18.21Kaeltenlol
22:18.31Kaeltenwe have nasa and a military base
22:18.42Kaeltenso a lot of transplants here too
22:18.46TrelaI can not blame them for not knowing how to drive there, but after three months they should figure it out.  :P
22:19.03TrelaCurious, what is the cost to rent a place there?
22:19.09Kaeltenwhat size?
22:19.35ckknightnic's is $667 for 2 bdr with water and power
22:19.43Groktarholy crap
22:20.00ckknightmine is $789 1 bdr, but it's a bit nicer
22:20.02TrelaDuplex/half a house which includes basement, first floor(living room/kitchen), and the second floor with three bedrooms?
22:20.16Kaeltenmines 1k but it's a 3bd 2bath 1.4k sqft in a brand new gated community  (apartment)
22:20.32Groktarthat's pretty nice
22:20.36Groktarreally nice, actually
22:20.45Kaeltenya they pick up my trash at my door
22:20.49MegalonHey, so I got this pattern which I use to abbreviate things, should take the first char of every word in the string etc
22:20.51ckknightHuntsville has the highest salary to cost-of-living ratio in the US
22:20.51TrelaOur rent is $725 here for what I just described.  >.>;
22:21.01MegalonIt works fine as long as you don't encounter somthing like
22:21.03Megalonlua> string.gsub("Prüfung des Kreuzfahrers", "(%a)[%l%p]*[%s%-]*", "%1")
22:21.03lua_botMegalon: PüfdK, 4
22:21.09Kaeltentrela: for something like that I'd figure 800-1k but not sure.
22:21.13Megalongerman umlauts :C
22:21.14ckknightMegalon: utf-8 ftw?
22:21.24Megalonhow do I make that utf-8 save? :x
22:21.42ckknightMegalon: convert all characters > 127 to ""
22:21.42ckknight:P
22:21.46ckknightthen run your thing.
22:21.53Megalonah, ok :>
22:22.00ckknightwon't work if something starts with a funky char
22:22.07ckknightor if it's like, chinese
22:22.12KaeltenTrela: I know you could buy a 2 story 3 bedroom house around 3k sqft brand new for < 200k through one builder here
22:22.13ArrowmasterTrela: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=77
22:22.42Groktar3k sq ft? those are some giant bedrooms
22:22.43Megalonah, perhaps I should just make an option so people cann make a table of their on substitutions on instance names
22:22.53Groktarunless they're including a basement or something?
22:23.01NivFreak~seen pastamancer
22:23.03purlpastamancer is currently on #curseforge (20d 2h 25m 24s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 4d 3h 19m 59s, last said: 'particularly 'how do I get the packager to make a release or beta' and 'how does the packager know whether a tag is a release or a beta?''.
22:23.06KaeltenGroktar: no basement, but it has a loft/second living room
22:23.37Kaeltenactually I think the 3k sqft one was around 160k, and the 3.8k sqft one was around 190k
22:24.33TrelaLots of money.  o.o
22:24.52ckknightnot really.
22:24.57Kaeltennot really.  I paid 2.5k rent in san francisco
22:25.10TrelaI used to the super cheap living here.
22:25.17Groktarbefore the housing market went to crap a 1900sq ft house was up to 330k here
22:25.32Groktarsame house that was 150k 6 years earlier
22:25.44KaeltenGroktar: ya, the housing values didn't fall here more than a few k
22:27.21Repo10broker-calendar: 03CrazyBenny * r17 calendar.lua: - sometimes, it didnt find any events
22:27.22Groktari'm basically just out of school
22:27.23Repo- now refreshes, when new event appears in Calendar
22:27.48Groktarreally tough trying to find anything right now
22:27.53TrelaNo way I could afford any thing any of you described on what I get paid here.
22:28.07KaeltenTrela: ugh that sucks mate
22:28.30Kaeltenhuntsvile is odd in that salaries for carrer positions are decent, but cost of living is cheap
22:28.37TrelaGranted, I get paid little compared to my skill set since I was hired on as a support role... Then moved into programming.  Blah.
22:28.45KaeltenTrela: ouch
22:29.01Groktarwell Trela, it's so bad here i've been working seasonally at the irs
22:29.09Groktarand unfortunately it's not tax season
22:29.11Groktar:/
22:29.14Trelao.o;;
22:29.53ckknightwell, if you were to get a job with us, the prices listed would be within your range
22:30.25Groktarcurse would be about the coolest job ever
22:30.34TrelaGames + Coding.
22:30.36Groktarshort of working for blizzard
22:30.37Groktaryeah
22:30.42Groktarpretty much Trela
22:30.52Kaeltenok I need to go pick up my kid
22:30.54Kaeltenbbiab
22:30.58ckknightbeta keys for games no one cares about for everyone!
22:31.03Groktarhaha ckknight
22:31.10TrelaI actually applied to Blizzard.  I never heard any thing back.  XD  Unfortunate part about their process that basically says, "Not in California?  GTFO."
22:31.36Groktarjust curious, when you first got out of school, where did you look?
22:31.39Kaeltenheh, plus the 1.5k + rent for a one bedroom in irvine
22:31.56ckknightCurse has historically paid for moving costs, btw
22:31.57TrelaEvery where!  I ended doing DSL phone support for two years.  *Stabs self.*
22:32.03Trela...Oh really?
22:32.07ckknightyes
22:32.49GroktarTrela, you're a better man than me
22:33.01TrelaNot sure how I made it past one year.
22:33.11Groktar7 months of pc phone support
22:33.14Groktarand i about went insane
22:33.33Arrowmasterim still unemployed and living with my parents
22:34.13Arrowmasterbut im about to finish up my associate degree
22:34.44NeoTrontoo bad curse is all about php and .net :P
22:34.56Groktarphp isn't at all hard to learn >.>
22:35.42Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r47 Ailo.lua: Change pattern used to abbreviate instancenames.
22:36.12NeoTronoh I know it "ok" (from hacking eqdkp and the ctrt importer crap and other stuff). I just find it about as enjoable as stabbing myself in the hand with a knife repeatedly while someone is pouring salt in the wounds
22:36.21NeoTronit's a horrid piece of excuse for a "programming language"
22:36.38ckknightNeoTron: what's your language of choice?
22:37.04TrelaI like PHP.  I wrote an entire web site in a day when the parent site said, "We're shutting down today.  You have today to make a replacement.  GO."
22:37.29NeoTronI mostly do Java nowadays, C++ previously
22:38.02ckknightNeoTron: Java's pretty close to C#, you know :P
22:38.19ckknightit's like C#'s older brother, bruised by the years and has a skin condition
22:38.21Groktaryeah, c++ was what i did in school
22:38.35Groktaractually, we mostly did C
22:39.04Groktari remember when i found out that there was more to programming than figuring out 1000 different weird things to do with pointers
22:40.01NeoTroni am aware
22:40.57NeoTronI like groovy too but haven't "worked" in it per se
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22:42.17NeoTronI played around with groovy/grails for fun making this: http://addons.robit.info/
22:42.23NeoTronjust as a little test project.
22:42.28ckknightcool
22:42.53CrazyBennyGrails is quite fun to work with
22:43.21Groktarjust need rounded corners and you'll be ready for web 2.0
22:43.25NeoTronhehe
22:43.48NeoTronI'm am most definitely NOT a web _designer_
22:43.50NeoTronat all
22:43.53TrelaI used PHP to make this one day project: http://kigup.tigerworks.org/  I did refine the code afterwards though.  Pulls RSS/Atom feeds, parses out multimedia, stores to a database, and then displays the page.  Disclaimer: Page content is a bit weird if you have never seen it before.
22:44.19NeoTronthe site is entirely database driven though, with a "cms" tool built in
22:44.37Groktarsorry, i was trying to be funny, didn't mean anything bad by it
22:45.02NeoTronno offense taken
22:45.17NeoTronI just use some yahoo toolkit thing that was "built in" with an addon to grails
22:45.22Trela...I totally did rounded corners on another design I did.  So offended now.  :P
22:45.38NeoTronit's highly generic although it can be customized with css.. but I don't do css :P
22:45.52Groktarhow do you not do css?
22:46.02NeoTronI code. I don't design websites
22:46.59ckknightNeoTron { display: none }
22:47.00ckknightmwahaha
22:47.10Groktaryarly
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22:47.36TrelaXD
22:47.59Repo10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Alpha4-39-g0d0a6d1 Collectinator.lua: [+1 commit] Removed second entry for "ashenverdict" from the saved variables. No, Ackis, I didn't miss it the first time. :P
22:48.04NeoTronI mean I know some css and all but I have no sense of how to make things look good, made even worse by me being very color blind
22:48.32Groktari thought it looked nice
22:48.43CrazyBennywho needs css anyway, when you have table layouts :P
22:48.51Groktarmy guild's website looks like an abortion
22:49.01durcynit has dead babies on it?
22:49.08Groktarhrm
22:49.19Groktarthat would be an improvement
22:49.35CrazyBennyscreenie with dead gnomes from bosskills would do
22:50.04Groktarit even includes a giant flash banner that makes cpu go up to 10%
22:50.49NeoTronGroktar: it's the default thing. :P
22:51.01Groktaronly thing i really like about it are the little guild recruitment buttons which i stole from someone else's guild site
22:51.08NeoTronGroktar: as in, I didn't change it to look any different
22:51.10MegalonGroktar: flash and only 10% cpu, that's pretty ressourceful for flash
22:51.30Groktarwell, it is a q9600, and it is just snow
22:51.34Groktarhttp://www.guild-impulse.net/index.php
22:52.22Groktarlittle buttons change when a mod/admin clicks on them
22:52.39Groktarand they get an editbox when they click on the little messsage
22:52.53Groktarwas a fun excuse to play with ajax
22:54.11Groktaralso another fun experience with things hating multibyte characters
22:54.15CrazyBennyit's not that bad, just add rounded corners and facebook links and its web 2.0 ;)
22:54.26Groktardon't forget to google ads
22:54.37Groktarhttp://www.web20generator.com
22:55.07ckknightI totally used that website to make the new wowace
22:56.04asmodaiWe figured as much.
22:58.50Groktarwowace doesn't have the dropdown menus
22:58.58Groktarso it's not true web 2.0
22:59.49yoshimoraid should start soon in the united states, shouldnt it?
23:00.36ckknightGroktar: I hate those things
23:00.40Groktar:p
23:02.12yoshimocan anyone tell me what addon this guy is editing if its a public one? http://www.ustream.tv/channel/mchomut
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23:05.04sztanpetseems like a bossmod
23:05.26sztanpetdxe or whats its called, if i can make out the letters properly
23:06.42Primeroh, with new flash it can lose focus and not go back to normal mode from full screen in Linux
23:06.49Primerflash video, that is
23:06.58sztanpetawesome
23:07.17PrimerAnd I'm using the 64 bit one too
23:08.10Primeroh look, someone has a Phoenix
23:08.40Primergvim for windows?
23:09.09Groktaroh my god Primer
23:09.12Groktargive now
23:09.19Primerwhat?
23:09.27Primerthat dude in the video...he's obviously in windows
23:09.35Primerand it looks like he's editing using gvim
23:09.59Primerlook, there's the Phoenix again
23:10.15sztanpetindeed my guess was correct
23:10.16sztanpet:D
23:10.30Primerdxe?
23:10.43Primernever heard of it...
23:10.48yoshimophoenix and mimirons head ;)
23:10.52sztanpetawesomely costumizable bossmod, overly costmuziable imo
23:11.06Odlawhrm.. gonna check it out
23:11.10Primeroh wow, I didn't realize that was mimiron's head
23:11.28PrimerI wonder if all those people are there just to help him code his mod
23:11.51PrimerI have one hell of a time getting people to help me with mine
23:12.02Primerluckily, I know a druid without swift flight form! :)
23:12.03sztanpetnaw
23:12.39PrimerSo wtf are they doing there? Waiting for a test period?
23:12.46sztanpetyes
23:13.11yoshimomight be waiting for a few people
23:13.14sztanpetyoshimo bug him to test the festergut fails! :D
23:13.23sztanpetim off to sleep damn
23:13.28PrimerHow many 80s you think it'd take to do A'lar?
23:13.57Primerfewest possible, to maximize mount chance
23:13.57NeoTronlast I went there at 80 we accidently pulled alar doing trash
23:14.42yoshimoprimer, you know that the phoenixmount is dropped by kaelthas, dont you?
23:14.51Groktaromg i'm on the youtube stream
23:15.06Primeryoshimo: err, I thought it was Alar
23:15.21Groktarer, the ustream stream
23:15.37yoshimoprimer, its called alars ashes but drops at kaelthas
23:16.01Primerright
23:16.02Primersoooo
23:16.09yoshimoid say 10people should be able to do it, maybe less. but we want to test that  soon
23:16.27Primerthat mount is so sexy, plus it's 310
23:16.51Primeroooo they're zoning in
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23:17.50Groktarwant me to fraps the lolboss for you?
23:18.11sztanpetjust giev combatlogs
23:18.34Groktarok
23:18.36yoshimoi think there will be enough videos tomorrow, cl is better, transcriptorlogs even more ;)
23:18.38Groktarlogging the 10 man for you
23:19.08Primerdamn, they wiped already?
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23:19.52yoshimotrash was harder than exspected i think
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23:20.55Groktarwtf
23:20.59Groktarlike 10000 spawning mobs
23:24.00Groktari hate whoever made this trash
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23:24.46PrimerWhat addon does that "NAME OF SPELL is ready now"
23:24.56NivFreakMSBTR
23:24.56NivFreaker
23:24.58NivFreakMSBT
23:26.34yoshimoparrot can do it to
23:26.54Primerhaha they got pwned
23:31.04MysticalOSi couldn't get ANY guild interest from my guild to do it.
23:31.23NeoTronconsidering how easy content is I think I'd also prefer not to do it on the ptr
23:32.10MysticalOSwell i think there was even a blue post that aside from having higher gear req the content is still gonna be easy. I just hope they well design the heroic versions.
23:42.08Primerso they're 19 manning this?
23:42.56Primeroh, now they're summoning more people
23:43.07PrimerFestergut
23:43.34Kalrothwell you could 19 man some of toc25 from day one, so :p
23:44.48Primerthis guys really doesn't like clutter on his screen
23:44.52Primerno bars
23:45.08Primernot that I ever really use bars for combat
23:46.03yoshimoprimer i think they are doing the trash until more people come home from school&work
23:46.11Primerthey're at the boss
23:46.16Primer23 people now
23:46.38Primerhe just flasked
23:46.49Primerhrmm, lock with a felguard
23:46.53Primerwonder if that's viable now
23:47.05PrimerI really really really liked raiding with the felguard
23:48.59Primerthey're pulling
23:49.29Primerbwahaha he died immediately
23:49.35Primeroh, no
23:49.42Primerit's part of his addon I guess
23:50.27Primerseveral dead
23:50.59Axodiousfestergut is uhh
23:51.00Axodiousinteresting
23:51.06SkellumAff is highest atm
23:51.10SkellumAccordin to simcraft
23:51.19Axodiousaff with fel pup, no dg
23:51.23Primerin PTR?
23:51.25SkellumI was really looking forward to Demo
23:51.26Axodiousyea
23:51.29SkellumYea, weird isnt it axo
23:51.34Axodiousim still playing demo
23:51.35Axodiousfor dp
23:51.41Axodiousreally like the deci change
23:51.44Primeryeah, I really like demon
23:51.54SkellumAll the lock specs really need a buff though
23:52.04NeoTronPrimer: not uncommon to have one FG lock
23:52.15NeoTronPrimer: the scorch bitch and stuff
23:52.27NeoTronSkellum: aff is the lowest in 3.2.2. In 3.3 aff is top
23:52.28PrimerI used to like affliction a lot. Did 10-70 as affliction, even raided as such. Sure, didn't top the meters on boss fights, but it was fun
23:52.41NeoTrondestro > demo > aff
23:52.44SkellumWhich is where the discussion was Neotron
23:52.50PrimerNeoTron: scorch bitch?
23:52.56NeoTronPrimer: crit debuff
23:53.03NeoTronmages aren't fire atm so they don't put it up
23:53.11NeoTroncheaper (dps-loss wise) to use a fg lock
23:53.23SkellumSo long as you dont have a nele shaman.
23:53.24NeoTronalso the fg lock can provide the spell damage buff (best one with good gear) to the raid
23:53.24SkellumElse it is.
23:53.37SkellumAnd with more mages, the Scorch req makes the DPS loss for them miniscule
23:53.41NeoTrononly frost/fire mage and shadow bolt locks can provide it
23:54.04Primernow that's a cast I haven't used in a long time
23:54.06Primershadow bolt
23:54.06NeoTronele shaman has a crit BUFF, I'm talking about crit debuff
23:54.29SkellumYou're not paying attention
23:54.41SkellumThe FG benifits require you to not have the +dmg buff, and the +crit buff
23:54.54SkellumFor it to become less of a DPS loss to have the warlock.
23:55.05SkellumWith an ele shaman it pushes the burden back on to the light blue scum, mages.
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23:57.20PrimerI should do some warlock theorycrafting...I know I keep saying this, but it bugs me that I have 3077 spell self-buffed (fel armor) and I some times get beat...mostly on fights where lots of movement is required
23:57.33SkellumYou're going to get owned in ToC.
23:57.43SkellumIts the lack of a CD, short fights and no execute.
23:57.52SkellumYou will do well, possibly top on NRB
23:57.59PrimerI win on beasts and faction champs...that's about it
23:58.03SkellumYou wont do well on Jaraxus due to the spell steal/target swaps.
23:58.08Axodiouspretty tight berserk on fester
23:58.15SkellumYou wont do well on Factions if the DKs Pestilence
23:58.19Axodious2 full cycleso n the aoe it seems
23:58.26Primerwe still CC though
23:58.32Primerso no AOE
23:58.42SkellumYou wont do well on Twins due to the Arcane CDs, and you definintly wont do well on Anub HM
23:58.52Primerhahaha was that a mispull?!? :)
23:59.01Groktarok, who wants 10 man festergut combatlog?
23:59.24FtH|Daemonatry asking in #bigwigs ? ;)
23:59.32Primerhehe lock went demon form

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