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00:07.40pakozanyone know of an addon to monitor wintergrasp quest reset times?
00:11.15FtH|Daemonahttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/20566388670-developer-chat-on-twitter-102209.html
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00:14.35Repo10failboat: 03sylvanaar * r68 FailBoat.lua:
00:14.37Repoget the funky click expansion of fail counts on the tooltip working with filtered/incomplete fail lists
00:16.14Repo10libgrouptalents-1-0: 03Zeksie 043.2.2 Release 4 * r40 : Tagging as 3.2.2 Release 4
00:18.49NeoTronman using twitter for chats is weird
00:18.52NeoTrontwitter is weird
00:20.28fewyntwitter is awesome
00:20.30fewyndon't lie
00:23.18vhaarrasshats
00:23.23vhaarrwhy don't they just use IRC
00:23.34fewynbecause they would cripple any server they tried it on
00:23.35fewynprobably
00:23.36NeoTronirc isn't web 2.09
00:23.45vhaarrnah fewyn, it's what NeoTron said
00:23.49fewynor that
00:23.59fewyni think both are factors
00:24.05vhaarryou are mistaken
00:24.37fewynok let's bring 1 million morons into this irc channel and see what happens?
00:24.40vhaarrit might cripple some irc clients, however, that's another story
00:25.12NeoTronthat said
00:25.19NeoTronI think dev chats are useless anyway
00:25.34fewynmostly
00:25.35NeoTronit's like a q and a with posted messages but painfully slow
00:28.27sylvanaaruse some kind of twitter to irc gateway
00:28.28sylvanaari hate twitter
00:31.42fewynI have a bot that does just that on another server =p
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00:34.13Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r131 ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua:
00:34.15RepoSees if you enchant a weapon manually, and cancels the loaded weapon enchant. (ok, I just wanted a reason to push the new LGT).
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01:14.55Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * 1.3-release-8-g3915ed8 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] - PALADIN: Coefficient changed to Holy Light: 2.5 / 3.5 * 1.25 and Flash of Light: 1.5 / 3.5 * 1.25, changed Divinity and Healing Light to be multiplicative (Thanks cremor, reapplying this for now, might revert it later)
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01:20.21sylvanaarsztanpet hm anub 25 impale is working
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02:15.08Repo10failboat: 03sylvanaar * r70 FailBoat.lua:
02:15.23Repowhen showing unlocalized fail messages, show as <name>, <event_name> (<count>)
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02:19.51KriLL3anyone knows of a chatter alternative? giving me errors and I can't wisper
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02:30.43sylvanaarim thinking that its another addon causing it
02:47.00KriLL3found an interim solution: turn off the player names module, btw can't open the "stand alone" options either
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03:05.21ripdogso, doesanyone know of/have any plans to develop a sexy addon using QueryQuestsCompleted() for 3.3?
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03:09.21Arrowmasterripdog: tourguide already uses it
03:10.13ripdogoh, tekkub you sexy beast
03:10.16ripdogthanks arrowmaster
03:13.41Shadowedwho wants to rename a slugurl for me!
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03:21.33TorhalShadowed: Tell me how to get an NPC id from a unit and I will do it (I'll actually do it anyway...)
03:21.49quiescenslies
03:21.58Torhal*ZOT!*
03:22.10Shadowedhttp://github.com/Shadowed/QuestDataRecorder/blob/master/QuestDataRecorder.lua see GetMobID
03:22.19Shadowedhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/stupidauras/ to sexyauras
03:24.16TorhalShadowed: Done. And thankye...I was actually thinking from the GUID, but I'd never used GUIDs before and WoWShitti gave me the impression that the id within the hex changed each spawn.
03:24.44ShadowedThere is an ID that is incremented based on each spawn, but you don't extract it
03:25.05Shadowedand thanks
03:25.07TorhalThat wasn't mentioned. Then again, I should have looked further (wowprogramming)
03:25.09Torhalnp
03:25.33Shadowedwowprogramming mentions it as an example, which is where I stole mine from
03:25.40TorhalAha!
03:25.54ShadowedOr maybe not
03:25.58TorhalHeh
03:25.59ShadowedI thought it had one, but I guess not
03:27.32TorhalNow I can get rid of my five-minute hack that maps names to idnums, since there are occurrences of mobs in more than one place (Kael'thalas, for example) which have different drop tables
03:28.08quiescenso.o
03:33.24RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexyauras/. SexyAuras. Shadowed (Manager/Author), Antiarc (Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
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03:34.21TorhalShadowed: Also - yay! After I got Collectinator in a decent state I was thinking of writing something like that, since looking at the code for PowerAuras made my head asplode.
03:34.32Fiskerslaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout
03:34.46ShadowedStill playing around with a design thats not horribly inefficient
03:34.49Groktaraccidently kills Fisker
03:36.56TorhalF.I.S.K.E.R. - Fucking Irritating Shifty Killer Entertainment Robot
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03:37.58TorhalFisker: I figured you out.
03:40.12Fisker:3+
03:40.14Fisker?
03:41.11TorhalFisker: Scroll up
03:41.13TorhalBWAH!
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03:41.39Fiskeri can't borderlands Torhal
03:43.53TorhalYou can't SC2.
03:45.22Fiskeri won't SC2
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04:51.08Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.1 / (5 files in 2 directories): [new, +2 commits]
04:51.16Repoeb1d358: Fix a couple of visibility problems, add LDB entry
04:51.17Repoefb7028: Initial commit
04:51.23Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 04v0.1 * f5209d3 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.1
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05:09.18Torhal@describe experience
05:09.18RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/experience/. Experience. Experience is an addon that helps you evaluate another player's dungeon experience.
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05:10.39ripdoghmm, looks interesting
05:11.10ripdogAntiarc: how does experience know how many times someone has completed an instance?
05:11.18AntiarcVia your statistics
05:11.38ripdogslaps myself
05:12.04ripdogyeah, obviously, thanks :P
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05:41.19Wizsta7hey there,
05:41.20Wizsta7I just recieved the v3m phone from verizon. They have disabled a bunch of stuff, so you have to buy thier service for basically anything you want.
05:41.22Wizsta7Can not connect to bluetooth other than handsfree devices. They have physically removed this feature, not simply disabled it.
05:41.24Wizsta7you can't send ringtones (or any media infact) via MPT (Motorola Phone Tools) to the phone using the USB cable.
05:41.25Wizsta7Verizon is basically choking you to buy thier stuff. I am patiently waiting for someone to find a relatively easy way to do the stuff I bought the damn phone for in the first place.
05:41.27Wizsta7here is another good site for materials on the V3m - V3c - and other moto phones.
05:42.02Brybrydiaf
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05:44.32Wizsta7Pleme Isusa Hrista, sina Davida Avramova sina.
05:44.33Wizsta72. Avram rodi Isaka. A Isak rodi Jakova. A Jakov rodi Judu i braću njegovu.
05:44.35Wizsta73. A Juda rodi Farmsa i Zaru s Tamarom. A Farms rodi Esroma. A Esrom rodi Arama.
05:44.36Wizsta74. A Aram rodi Aminadava. A Aminadav rodi Naasona. A Naason rodi Salmona.
05:44.38Wizsta75. A Salmon rodi Vooza s Rahavom. A Vooz rodi Ovida s Rutom. A Ovid rodi Jeseja.
05:44.40Wizsta76. A Jesej rodi Davida cara. A David car rodi Solomuna s Urijnicom.
05:44.41Wizsta77. A Solomun rodi Rovoama. A Rovoam rodi Aviju. A Avija rodi Asu.
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05:48.18TorhalWizsta7: ...
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05:58.06psinoanyone know if its possible to download/stream videos from past mlg events?
05:59.35stolen|schoolpsino: yes
06:00.56psinofrom mlgpro.com or?
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06:03.15Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.1.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Change DB store, change to one decimal precision
06:03.22Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 04v0.1.1 * a09c35b /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.1.1
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06:11.11Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.1.2 Experience.lua: [+1 commit] Clean up debug code and leaked globals
06:11.18Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 04v0.1.2 * f75f32c /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.1.2
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06:25.40Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.2 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add options menu, allows for editable kill threshold and exclusion of certain categories from consideration in score computation
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06:25.47Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 04v0.2 * 82b051e /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.2
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06:45.26Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.6.8-1-g0097e2a Modules/Auras.lua: [+1 commit] Register PLAYER_FOCUS_CHANGED to Refresh. Thanks Nite_Moogle
06:49.37Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.2.1 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add the ability to show or hide dungeons with 0% score
06:49.44Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 04v0.2.1 * 0dcf1a6 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.2.1
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07:02.59Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.3 Experience.lua: [+1 commit] Fix erroneous Naxx stat IDs
07:03.05Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 04v0.3 * deace53 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.3
07:08.56Repo10experience: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.3-1-g819b673 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Oops, left in debug info. Added toggle for detail.
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07:22.01Adirelle@describe experience
07:22.03RepoAdirelle: http://www.wowace.com/addons/experience/. Experience. Experience is an addon that helps you evaluate another player's dungeon experience.
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07:30.10evlCan I safely hack away at UIPARENT_MANAGED_FRAME_POSITIONS without  getting into trouble? I'm trying to compact the default bars so they stack on top of eachother
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07:46.54sztanpetsylvanaar nothing else tho? :D
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07:58.56Repo10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Alpha3-128-g2f86cf5 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+10 commits] (6 truncated)
07:58.58Repo2f86cf5: Removed MOB_ID_MAP - we're grabbing the mob's IDnum from its GUID now. This approach not only negates the need to keep a separate table for mapping names, but is more accurate in the case of multiple mobs sharing names but not drops.
07:58.59Repo06ba599: Added Felsteed with the same acquire information as the Dreadsteed, as I am unable to find anything on WoWHead confirming or denying this.
07:59.01Repo378b5ca: Added the Epic Wolf mounts.
07:59.02Repofddc090: Added the Epic Raptors and Kodos.
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08:11.14Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r156 EnsidiaFails.lua: fix: molten spew, acidic spew
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08:23.46Repo10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Alpha3-129-gf49dcd8 Collectinator.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed logic for the faction flags.
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08:36.00Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sztanpet 06ensidiaflavoured 07master * 1e9c80e LibFail-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] fixing molten/acidic spew as per ensidiafails
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08:47.17Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sztanpet 06ensidiaflavoured 07master * c56045d LibFail-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] small fixes and renamings to make things a bit more consistent
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08:50.17Tuskis there a way in pitbull4 to copy a layout from another one?
08:50.46Repo10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Alpha3-131-g7e1d547 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
08:50.48Repo7e1d547: In GenerateTooltipContent(): Anchor the tooltip to the button that's generating it instead of to the main panel frame.
08:50.49Repo33b9090: Fixed the Unpainted Mechanostrider - for some reason it was marked as removed and was using a custom string rather than being linked to a vendor.
08:52.17Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sztanpet 06ensidiaflavoured 07master * f536747 LibFail-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] look what `luac -l -p LibFail-1.0.lua | grep GLOBAL` dragged out
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09:09.23Repo10libfail-1-0: 03sztanpet 06ensidiaflavoured 07master * e735586 LibFail-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] change playerevent to is_playerevent for more consistency
09:14.01Repo10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Alpha3-134-g1abbf0f / (2 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
09:14.03Repo1abbf0f: Fixed the rarity on about 20 pets.
09:14.04Repo1d73a06: In GenerateTooltipContent(): Anchored the item tooltip to the obtain tooltip instead of the panel frame, and fixed the link reference.
09:14.06Repof6aee87: In SetSpellTooltip(): Fix the itemlink so it will actually work.
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09:33.24Zarnivoopis there an addon that will enforce kill orders by say, spamming the next target in /rw when a raid target dies?
09:35.06Zarnivoopif not I'll go make one
09:46.15Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 04v6.3.1 Beta * r333 :
09:46.32RepoTagging as v6.3.1 Beta. Remove Dependency on npcID's. Normalise DB usage for modules. Locale Updates. Partial Addition for Hallow's End
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09:54.58WobinZarnivoop, pft, nothing will ever -enforce- kill order except effective players =P
09:55.21Wobinthe good players will get irritated by the spam
09:55.26Wobinthe stupid players will ignore it
09:56.29KalrothIt's called a MT window. Kill whatever is being targetted in it. Find smartest DPS and let him be the assist train leader. :)
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09:59.19Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6614 / (2 files in 2 directories): koKR Update
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10:23.40Repo10timetodie: 03Mecdemort * r85 / (5 files in 2 directories): Remove Unnecessary translations
10:23.41RepoSimplify options
10:25.40Repo10timetodie: 03Mecdemort * r86 / (2 files in 1 directory):
10:25.42RepoAdd regression formulas for safe keeping, but ignore in .pkgmeta
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11:02.02asmodairofl
11:02.11asmodai"Organized crime uses Blackberry"
11:02.20asmodaiWell, duh, if they didn't it wouldn't be organized eh?
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11:08.57Kalrothhaha
11:09.10Repo10pokedex: 03stencil * r38 / (3 files in 1 directory):
11:09.12RepoRelease v3.2.02 - Improvement to Wintergrasp behavior. Should do the right thing now in giving you a ground mount if wintergrasp is being contested and a flying mount otherwise.
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11:28.40Tuskdo you know an addon like chocolate bar but that you can set width bar?
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11:31.57SunTsuTusk: Just look onto tekkub's ldb list
11:32.54SunTsuhttp://wiki.github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/addons-using-ldb
11:35.45TuskSunTsu: yeah but would have been nice to have advice from ppl who actually knows before trying all bar addons :D
11:36.19SunTsuTusk: it's a whopping number of four, of which you already know one
11:36.50SunTsuAFAIK DockingStation supports width, titanpanel should, too
11:38.59StanzillaBazooka is missing on that list
11:40.29SunTsuThen go ahead and tell Tekkub about it
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11:52.15TorhalOr just add it yourself. It _is_ a wiki
11:55.39TuskSunTsu: yeah i was lazy ^^
11:55.57Wobinfail
11:56.21winkillerdockingstation rocks
11:56.43Groktartypefrag vents dead for anyone else?
11:57.33Tuskwinkiller: i agree but it doesn't display my repair_brocker addon O_o
11:57.55winkillerat some point I just got an autorepair addon:P
11:58.38Tuskyeah not a bad idea i think
11:58.50Tuskbecause the autorepair is the only wou use in the end
11:58.51Tusk:D
11:59.25winkillerthere was a time where I went to an exalted guy
11:59.37winkillerbut at some point I stopped bothering
12:05.24SunTsuI never botheres when I was wearing leather with my druid, while earing plate with my DK I really bother
12:05.41SunTsuor while "wearing", maybe both
12:06.31Groktarcurls up in SunTsu's lap and dies
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12:28.46Aens|SuperiorityWhat is a good mod to alert me of procs firing.  Blood Surge/Sudden Death and the like.
12:30.18Aens|SuperiorityI currently have mik's to play a sound but I can't hear it in a raid situation.  Forte doesn't track it either in the main bar.
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12:32.42FiskerR
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12:32.51Fiskerthat just cost me a thousand liters of milk to write
12:33.33SunTsuAens|Superiority: maybe the first of all questions: How would you want to be made aware? What _would_ you notice in a raid situation?
12:33.56Fiskerthat just cost me a trillion liters of milk SunTsu ;(
12:33.58Groktarhooks up with SunTsu
12:34.38SunTsuFisker: I really like how much effort you put into helping milk farmers
12:35.23Fiskeri'm on my mobile
12:35.31Aens|SuperioritySunTsu: probably a mod that will flash the skill icon on my screen and play a sound.  Some level of transparancy control would be needed.
12:35.34Fiskerlooks like my isp's dns is down and i can get an ip :E
12:35.38Fiskerdhcp*
12:36.03yoshimowon't parrot print a message for procs in its sct as well?
12:36.04Fiskernot even my mobile but through my mobile etc.
12:36.09SunTsuAens|Superiority: mik can do that
12:36.34Aens|SuperioritySunTsu: really?  I have it set to the notification pane but that is just too spammy
12:37.13SunTsuAens|Superiority: Just reposition the message and maybe the notifocation areas, use icons and pump up the font
12:37.27SunTsuor the notification area ;)
12:37.45Aens|SuperiorityI remeber from back during vanilla wow, there was a mod that flashed the skill icon dead center of the screen that faded away in 2-3 seconds.
12:37.54Aens|Superiorityand it was some mage pvp video.
12:38.24SunTsuyou might want to look at procodile or proculas for that
12:38.35Aens|Superiorityok, thanks
12:39.10SunTsuI think CooldownTimer does it for cool downs, but that doesn't really help ypu ;)
12:39.27Aens|Superiorityi'll give it a try, thanks
12:40.17SunTsuAens|Superiority: Nah, it makes end of cooldowns visible like that, but that's not what you asked for
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12:52.36WobinAens|Superiority, Power Auras
12:54.57Groktarperforms a series of lewd acts on Wobin's mom and sends the video to Fisker
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12:55.25WobinShe's dead, dude! =(
12:55.48Groktar|NecrophiPOO
12:55.53Wobin(It's a total lie, but it had to be said. Also actually Fisker might like that)
12:56.46TentacledAnyone of you have experience with running a multilingual WoW that's gotten out of sync patch-wise..?
12:58.56Groktargives Tentacled a confused look
12:59.42TentacleddeDE and enGB installed. At one patch it failed to patch deDE, so I renamed that locale and from now on my WoW was purely enGB. Now I'd like to patch deDE up to the current level somehow ;P
12:59.59Groktarhrm
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13:00.24Groktarhttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/faq/elp.html?rhtml=y
13:00.50Tentacledone possible solution would be to copy all of WoW to a seemingly "pure deDE" scenario, and Repair it...
13:01.17TentacledHmm. Interesting.
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13:01.56TentacledAlzheimer's kicking in; I obviously used this before...
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13:10.17miicagot addon idea
13:10.19mitch0didum
13:10.24miicalanguage community D:
13:10.31miicawells stupid name but
13:10.40miicayou can select your motherlanguage
13:10.52miicaand then you see peeps who got same language in list etc
13:10.57miicayou have onw "guild" chat
13:11.12miicait is like second guild but it is peeps who speak same language
13:12.17Groktarpolitely kills miica
13:13.46miica:<
13:14.12Groktarfeasts upon miica's flesh
13:15.50miicayou are probably british ;D
13:15.59GroktaroO
13:16.27Groktaris so not british
13:16.33WobinThe british are known for feasting on the flesh of their victims?
13:16.44WobinI thought they just stuck a flag into them and called it a day
13:17.31Wobinoh, maybe it was the polite way you did it.
13:17.31WobinAlthough, imo, that'd more likely make him a Canadian zombie
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13:18.27sztanpetmiica its known as chat channels
13:18.36Fiskeri want the whole internet on a disk
13:18.59sztanpetour nationality has its own channel, and most of them know to join it if they want something
13:19.12Groktaris Super Awesome
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13:23.01mitch0on our server 95% just speaks hungarian on all friggin channels :)
13:23.19miicalol
13:23.32Groktarlol
13:23.39Groktari used to chat on synirc
13:23.47miicaStanzilla: yeah but it is still kinda stupid :)
13:23.50Groktarall my favorite channels were constantly invaded by turks
13:23.56miicaStanzilla: you cant example see any smart list
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13:57.42Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r133 / (55 files in 7 directories): Fix localization blunder.
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14:12.01Wobincareful Odlaw. He's going to claim you for England
14:12.10Groktaromg
14:12.13Groktari'm not english :(
14:12.18Groktarhears Wobin is welsh
14:12.30WobinNah, then my nick would be Wyrnbn
14:12.34Wobinnnn
14:12.40Groktarwhat's that?
14:12.48Groktari can't understand you
14:12.54Odlaweh?
14:13.03WobinOdlaw's clearly Canadian
14:13.10Odlawneg
14:13.10Groktarpoor Odlaw
14:13.12Groktari'm sorry for you
14:13.13Groktar:(
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14:14.40Wobin"British travellers could be driving the spread of sexually transmitted infections in Australia, study finds. "
14:14.45Wobin=(
14:16.10Groktarhrm
14:16.25Groktardoes daylight savings end this weekend?
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14:28.10Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r19 Ailo.toc: LDBIcon has to go after LDB in the loading order.
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14:55.41Repo10flame-turn: 03Trellmor * r12 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed: Chat spamming when opening a NPC dialog with quests
14:55.42RepoUpdated version to 1.1.1
14:55.53Repo10flame-turn: 03Trellmor 041.1.1 * r13 : Tagging 1.1.1
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15:13.26Ingelastolenlegacy, did you check srf tickets? :D
15:16.48stolenlegacyIngela: yah :D
15:17.03Fiskermakes stolenlegacy sigh
15:20.08steev><
15:20.22steevi want to post on the f'n forums but i can't cuz the damn b.net login servers are down apparently
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15:24.24Fiskersteev
15:24.51steevyes ma'am?
15:29.17Fiskeri want to post on the f'n forums but i can
15:29.31Fiskerfuck yeah
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15:35.16AckisI want to fuck Fisker but I can't because battle.net is down!
15:35.37Megalonjust argue with common sense
15:35.42Megalonthat fucks with him pretty badly
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15:36.26Fiskernot really Megalon
15:52.57Kaelten@ping
15:52.57Repopong
15:53.03Kaeltenwtf, irc, and ims all work
15:53.09Kaeltenbut my http traffic is dead
15:53.43nevcairielsounds like new connections are being dropped
15:53.56Kaeltenthis is weird
15:54.46Kaeltenand now it starts working again
15:54.48KaeltenI hate knology
15:54.50Kaeltenand att
15:54.57Kaeltendamn you lack of good internet
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16:09.39Repo10flame-turn: 03Trellmor 041.1.1 * r14 : Trying to fix packager error
16:10.00Repo10flame-turn: 03Trellmor 041.1.1 * r15 : Tagging as 1.1.1
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16:15.31RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/experience/. Experience. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
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16:17.27ArrowmasterClassKaelten: fix the packager
16:17.42Kaeltenhave to make sure ackis's files don't break it anymore
16:17.52ArrowmasterClassk, and where did my unpause button go
16:19.24nevcairielyou should just get rid of ackis, its easier in the long run :P
16:19.58Ackisif you got rid of me, who would you hate then? :P
16:20.41ArrowmasterClassFisker
16:20.51Ackisyou can't hate fisker
16:21.43ArrowmasterClassKaelten: make ckknight add the javascript magic to the packager page so i dont have to convert UTC to local time
16:21.54Kaeltenheh
16:22.00Kaeltenthere's a lot i'd like to do to that page
16:22.48Fiskerwhy do you hate me Arrowmaster ?
16:22.48stolenlegacyAckis: believe me, you can
16:22.59stolenlegacyArrowmasterClass: like "created: 1 minute from now"?
16:23.02stolenlegacygotta love that bug
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16:23.12Kaeltenstolenlegacy: ya a bullshit one too
16:23.22nevcairieli think its caused by your local time just being broken
16:23.24ArrowmasterClassstolenlegacy: not a bug, fix your clock
16:25.43stolenlegacynevcairiel: why can't they just calc the difference in server time?
16:26.04ArrowmasterClassbecause that requires server side processing
16:26.04nevcairielbecause that sucks
16:26.09nevcairielnoone would ever do that
16:29.13Kaeltenhrm, goign to try restarting it
16:29.31Kaeltenstolenlegacy: the real fix is a slight tweak in the javaqscript so dates in the near future say less than one min ago
16:30.20Kaeltenbecause there are some points wher saying how far in the future soemthing will happen is useful
16:30.45Groktarpassionately embraces Kaelten
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16:31.25Ackisto demonstrate this, we can state that Fisker will get laid for the first time 33 years in the future
16:31.26Kaeltensame assertion error but it finished successfully
16:31.44FiskerSo we're 40 years in the past?
16:31.47Fiskershit
16:31.48stolenlegacyAckis: you just divided by zero
16:32.42KaeltenAckis: on a guess it's related to the @file-date-iso@ flag you're using
16:33.29AckisKaelten: that was my first guess however I have that in all my files on all my projects
16:33.53Kaeltenhrm and that actually did replace correctly looking at it
16:34.10KaeltenAckis: I'd go through the files in collectinator and see which preprocessor symbol failed to replace
16:34.26Ackishttp://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/
16:34.35Ackisyah I'll go through and take a looksee later on
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16:35.46ArrowmasterClassKaelten: theres a comment on the KB saying @file-timestamp@ and @project-timestamp@ arent working for git
16:35.52ArrowmasterClassprobably related
16:36.11KaeltenArrowmasterClass: on a guess it probably is
16:36.30KaeltenAckis: do you use those?
16:36.39Ackisnein
16:36.56Ackis(that's no btw)
16:36.56Kaeltenare you sure?
16:36.56ArrowmasterClasshe was using @file-date-iso@ which is almost the same as @file-timestamp@
16:37.27Kaeltenya I'm not sure enough about git to know if this line is even remotely valid
16:37.27Kaelten<PROTECTED>
16:37.28Kaelten<PROTECTED>
16:37.33ArrowmasterClassyou should be getting the date the same way for both and just converting it
16:37.49Kaelten<PROTECTED>
16:37.50Kaelten<PROTECTED>
16:37.58Kaeltenas you can see they're almost identical
16:38.57ArrowmasterClassso you guys are still using a local checkout for git?
16:39.12KaeltenArrowmasterClass: the weird thing to me though is how it worked
16:39.22Kaeltenhis @file-date-iso@ got replaced
16:39.27Kaelteneven after asserting
16:39.36KaeltenArrowmasterClass: ya it looks like it
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16:41.27ArrowmasterClassdo you have a dev box to make changes to the packager on and test?
16:41.30Kaeltenmmm heating pad
16:41.44Kaeltennope
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16:42.49ArrowmasterClassKaelten: i think it might be the string_to_date failing?
16:43.02Kaeltenyup it would be
16:43.17Kaeltenthats where the assert gets raised
16:43.55ArrowmasterClassgrr this is pissing me off
16:43.59ArrowmasterClassdns keeps failing
16:44.03ArrowmasterClassfucking school network
16:44.16cleverdo you have to restart wow to apply changes to an addon script?
16:44.43sylvanaarsztanpet thats all we did last night
16:44.43stolenlegacyclever: /reload
16:44.43mitchnullclever: depends
16:44.48sztanpetah okay :D
16:44.54stolenlegacyonly changes to the .toc require wow restarts
16:45.01sylvanaarsztanpet wipe on anub
16:45.16cleverstolenlegacy: ah, that should speed up any dev work i may do
16:45.23mitchnullclever: if you didn't add new files, a /reload is enough
16:46.00clevermitchnull: sounds good
16:46.05sylvanaarKaelten did you see my message yesterday about the 500 adding a kb article?
16:46.14stolenlegacyclever: you're welcome
16:46.14cleverand i'm guessing i can stick /reload in a macro and add it to an action bar
16:46.20Kaeltensylvanaar: ya, it was a sql issue, is it still occuring?
16:46.30stolenlegacyclever: ofc
16:46.42stolenlegacyReloadUI() would be the API call for it, in case you require it
16:46.46cleverwhat about having an addon interface with something via tcp or running a local program?
16:46.51cleveris either of those posible?
16:46.58mitchnullno
16:47.01stolenlegacyno
16:47.01ArrowmasterClassKaelten: i dont know enough about that string_to_date function but maybe changing %ai to %at would work, it would supply a POSIX epoch to the function instead of an ISO 8601 date
16:47.11stolenlegacyaddons are limited to the wow client
16:47.16sylvanaarKaelten well - no, but the reason it was happening was that the url that was generated for the page was the same as another page's url - you got that part right
16:47.26ArrowmasterClassor maybe %aD, that would give RFC2822
16:47.34cleverstolenlegacy: so 100% of the data it uses must be contained within the addon, and no external db/helper?
16:47.49stolenlegacyclever: yes
16:47.51sylvanaarKaelten i renamed my pages so i'd have to rename them back to see
16:47.52cleverahh
16:48.01cleverthat makes it easyer to enforce the rules
16:48.05stolenlegacyexactly
16:48.06mitchnullkaelten: btw, if there were a dev box to work on the packager (like arrow asked) I'd also hack on a ticket regarding tagged builds :)
16:48.22ArrowmasterClassKaelten: oh wait nvm that string_to_date is custom
16:48.40Kaeltensylvanaar: hrm
16:48.47cleveralso means i cant run 'svn update' on the addon and then /reload, from a single macro:(
16:48.56sylvanaar"Using TortoiseHg-Mercurial with a remote svn repository" "Using TortoiseHg-Mercurial with a remote git repository"
16:49.00Kaeltenmitchnull: I'd love it if it was there too
16:49.03Fiskerslaps ArrowmasterClass around a bit with a large trout
16:49.06stolenlegacyclever: if you need to send data to other users of the addon, use SendAddOnMessage() in conjunction with CHAT_MSG_ADDON
16:49.08sylvanaarthey both get turned into the same url
16:49.12stolenlegacy!api SendAddOnMessage
16:49.12lua_botSendAddonMessage: Sends a chat-like message receivable by other addons (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendAddonMessage)
16:49.14stolenlegacy!api CHAT_MSG_ADDON
16:49.14lua_botCHAT_MSG_ADDON: Fires when an addon communication message is received (see [[docs/api/SendAddonMessage|`SendAddonMessage()`]]) (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/CHAT_MSG_ADDON)
16:49.22mitchnullclever: just place the working copy in the addon folder
16:49.39stolenlegacymitchnull: he wanted to do it from in game
16:49.45stolenlegacylike, press a macro, svn update and reloadui
16:49.45ArrowmasterClassKaelten: is that hg_string_to_date using POSIX epoch timestamp as input? if so rename it and use it for both git and hg
16:49.46clevermitchnull: yeah i can do that outside of wow, was just thinking of a way to trigger the replace from inside the client
16:49.47Kaeltensylvanaar: hrm so it's trying to create a new page and can't due to unique constraints
16:49.50cleverso i dont have to alt+tab
16:50.09stolenlegacyclever: well, but why would you ever svn update while coding?
16:50.13mitchnullclever: erm. I don't get it
16:50.28stolenlegacymitchnull: he wants to trigger the bash command "svn update" from inside the game
16:50.30sylvanaarKaelten yep
16:50.33stolenlegacywhich is, per se, not possible
16:50.40mitchnullstolen: yeah, but why?
16:50.42Kaeltensylvanaar: hrm
16:50.50stolenlegacymitchnull: what I asked him
16:50.54KaeltenArrowmasterClass: no it'd be something like 2009.10.4.blah
16:50.55sztanpetsylvanaar any idea how we could refactor libfail to not be a ~1000 line if-else chain? i was thinking of a kind of double lookuptable thing with spell events and spell id-s
16:51.12sztanpetbut im not even sure its worth it
16:51.20cleverstolenlegacy: write the code on 1 pc (laptop), and then push a single macro to load the updates and test them, without leaving the ui at all
16:51.31sylvanaarsztanpet yes - look at castyeller2, i like that design
16:51.41mitchnullclever: nfs/cifs mount?
16:51.50stolenlegacyclever: why don't you just write the code on the laptop while running wow?
16:51.52clevermitchnull: that could work
16:52.13KaeltenArrowmasterClass: actually it'd be like {timestamp}.otherstuff
16:52.16cleverstolenlegacy: wow mutes the audio output when i alt+tab away, so i have no way to tell if i'm being attacked or msg'd ingame
16:52.35mitchnullclever: that's why I spent the last month as a ghost :)
16:52.37stolenlegacyesc->sound+voice->Sound in Background
16:52.44stolenlegacylrn2wow, guys
16:52.47cleverso i may return to a corpse after editing a few lines
16:52.56Fiskerman
16:52.57cleverwas also going to ask if that could be turned off:P
16:52.59stolenlegacy:D
16:53.08Fiskerwould almost have had the mask for all occasions achievement if blizzard didn't take it away
16:53.11sylvanaarsztanpet but yeah - im not sure of the value of changing something that works
16:53.47cleverstolenlegacy: and the SendAddOnMessage seems like it should work for addon->addon messages, while letting blizard spy on it and block it at a later time
16:53.59stolenlegacyclever: there is no better way .P
16:54.31clevercan it target the guild/party/global/pm channels?
16:54.33sylvanaarsztanpet your idea is good, also doing something like what bliz does with combat log filters
16:54.41stolenlegacyand with the amount of clutter addons produce nowadays, there is no way they could check all of it
16:54.42cleverah, i see that section now
16:54.43stolenlegacyclever: yes
16:54.50stolenlegacyit only can't target chat channels
16:55.04stolenlegacyother than that, it can target everything
16:55.09cleverah
16:56.12cleverwas thinking of a way to broadcast it to every user on the realm (with the correct addon)
16:56.53stolenlegacycreate a custom chat channel
16:57.04stolenlegacyand chatfilter everything in it from being viewed by the user
16:57.36sylvanaaryou can just hide the channel
16:57.45stolenlegacysylvanaar: what i meant
16:58.14cleverahh
16:58.38cleverand it can probly perform the auto-join for each user:)
16:58.44stolenlegacyofc
16:59.51cleverand are things like /cast (when used on a non-instant spell) blocking functions, or does it just queue?
17:00.24sylvanaarworks via the spell queuing system
17:00.30stolenlegacyif not GetChannelName("mychannel") then JoinChannelByName("mychannel") end RemoveChatWindowChannel(1, "mychannel");
17:00.41cleverah, so id need a timer to tell somebody that the spell is done casting
17:00.41stolenlegacyclever: functions and casts don't interfere at all
17:00.51stolenlegacy!api SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS
17:00.52lua_botCould not find a match for 'SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS'.
17:00.54ArrowmasterClassKaelten: copy the hg_string_to_date to a new git_string_to_date and change the s.split('.')[0] to just s then change the %ai to %at everywhere in that file and ofcourse use the new git_string_to_date everywhere you change the %ai
17:01.06cleverahh, or an event returned frm the api
17:01.16stolenlegacyexactly
17:01.19sylvanaaryou may have to join the channel, then wait for the join message
17:01.32KaeltenArrowmaster: I can try it, worst that happens is it breaks and I revert
17:01.41ArrowmasterClassKaelten: its really silly to be trying to parse an ISO 8601 output when you could just use a timestamp
17:01.49stolenlegacy!api UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED
17:01.50lua_botUNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED: Fires when a unit's spell cast succeeds (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED)
17:01.55stolenlegacyclever: there you are
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17:02.54stolenlegacyyou can also reference to http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_(API) or just http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_(Full_List) for events
17:03.09ArrowmasterClasswouldnt suggest wowwiki
17:04.05stolenlegacyArrowmasterClass: I usually use it
17:04.13cleverlooks like /run in the macro system will pass the commands over to the lua system
17:04.23cleverso i could test bits of lua code without editing an addon
17:04.27stolenlegacyclever: /run or /script simply run a luascript from ingame
17:04.28stolenlegacyexactly
17:04.33stolenlegacylike, events
17:04.38cleverusefull to know:)
17:04.54sylvanaarif it has output you can use /dump or /print
17:04.56stolenlegacy/run f=CreateFrame("Frame",nil,UIParent);f:RegisterEvent("something");f:SetScript("OnEvent",print);
17:05.09stolenlegacysylvanaar: print()
17:05.59ArrowmasterClassKaelten: although it does seem kinda odd to be using %at instead of %ct since if you cherrypick an older commit from another branch it could give a date thats in the past compared to the previous package
17:06.24KaeltenArrowmaster: hrm, I'm not sure
17:06.30sylvanaarwell i have /print i think ace3, ace2, etc all provide it
17:06.45nevcairielWoW provides /print now, doesnt it
17:06.57sylvanaari thought so - but i was playing it safe
17:07.08nevcairielit certinaly provides /dump
17:07.14sylvanaaryeah
17:07.16nevcairielnot 100% on print
17:07.32cleverhttp://www.wowwiki.com/MACRO_dump
17:07.34stolenlegacynevcairiel: wow certainly does provide print()
17:07.34KaeltenAckis: give a commit to collectinator please
17:07.37clevercant find print in that list
17:07.45stolenlegacyclever: just use /run print(var)
17:07.49sylvanaari replace both anyways with the one from ace2
17:07.58Kaeltenoh damn he's afk
17:07.59cleverstolenlegacy: yeah, id have to call it as lua code, not macro code
17:08.04Kaeltenguess I'll commit it
17:08.51stolenlegacyclever: well, you'll get so used to it that you can type /run print() in less than one second
17:08.55stolenlegacyi actually timed that one ;)
17:09.01cleverlol
17:09.15cleverive done lots of javascript and c++ programing, i can type fairly fast
17:10.16ArrowmasterClassKaelten: maybe bring it up with ckk since he knows git better than you but imho the %at should be %ct but leave the %an alone
17:10.30Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie 043.2.2 Release 6 * r134 : Tagging as 3.2.2 Release 6
17:10.40Repo10collectinator: 03Kaelten 07master * Alpha3-135-g96ff9ae local.xml: [+1 commit] Testing the filestamp handling for git
17:11.31KaeltenArrowmasterClass: I guess I just don't understand the usecase, I've not bothered learning git very much
17:13.25cleversounds like it would be simple to make something like a 'currupted blood' addon to simulate the same effects
17:13.37cleverjust keep a 2nd health bar that the addon manages
17:14.45KaeltenArrowmasterClass: looks like there may be a messup with the other thing
17:14.50ArrowmasterClassKaelten: it errored, i guess i dont know python well enough
17:15.00ArrowmasterClasshint, i dont know it at all
17:15.31KaeltenArrowmasterClass: well my guess is that get_git_log doesn't return properly
17:15.45Kaeltenin both cases it looks like it returned an empty string instead of a valid response
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17:16.21ArrowmasterClassim not exactly in a situation to be testing any of this
17:16.29Kaelten'log', '-1', '--pretty=format:%s' % (format,), '--', path, cwd=repo_path)
17:16.30Kaeltenhrm
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17:17.43ArrowmasterClassKaelten: whats that % in there for?
17:17.51Kaeltenthat's a string format
17:17.59sylvanaarthe other one
17:18.08stolenlegacyclever: like, everyone getting near you takes damage
17:18.09ArrowmasterClassthe one before (format)
17:18.16nevcairielthats just formating syntax
17:18.24ArrowmasterClasstheres a space there and it looks like its outside of the string
17:18.25nevcairiel"%s" % (string)
17:18.28cleverstolenlegacy: but it would be damage to a 2nd health bar, that cant actualy kill you
17:18.32stolenlegacyor rather like - everyone that gets near one with that virtual debuff gets that debuff
17:18.46stolenlegacydunno how well positioning checking works, actually
17:18.47cleverstolenlegacy: once the 2nd health bar hits 0, you cant be infected and cant carry it
17:18.50nevcairielArrowmasterClass: l2python :P
17:19.03ArrowmasterClassi dont know python
17:19.04stolenlegacyyou would have to get who is near you, some way
17:19.04cleverstolenlegacy: could just use something like /say, and let the server limit the range of transmision
17:19.10sylvanaarpython syntax is like an icepick in my ear
17:19.11stolenlegacythat's the problem
17:19.21stolenlegacysay+yell aren't supported by SendChatMessage
17:19.28stolenlegacys/Chat/AddoN/
17:19.33stolenlegacys/AddoN/Addon/
17:19.37cleveror just infect anybody you wave the mouse over
17:19.46stolenlegacythat one would be possible
17:19.48Kaeltengit('log', '-1', '--pretty=format:%s' % (format,), '--', path, cwd=repo_path)
17:19.52Kaeltenis the whole line
17:19.53stolenlegacyregister for target updates, and send an addon pm
17:19.54cleverthen youll 'randomly' addon msg people as you do normal tasks
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17:20.15stolenlegacyshould be possible rather easily
17:20.17Kaeltenthat does git log -1 --pretty=format:%at --<path>
17:20.26cleverkeep some internal list of who is infected and not, to avoid spamming them
17:20.49cleverthe only problem i can see at the end, is exporting the stats to something outside wow
17:21.08stolenlegacyclever: not a problem
17:21.13stolenlegacyfirst, use a local table
17:21.13cleverid need one copy of the addon to log the special channel to variables, which i then extract manualy later
17:21.32stolenlegacylocal infected = {};
17:21.36Kaeltenunless the path is invalid seems like it should be working
17:21.47cleverthe only addon i use seems to log npc data to a variable, which they request i upload back to them
17:21.49stolenlegacythen for every player you infect, you do infected[GetUnitName("mouseover")] = true;
17:22.07Kaeltenmy guess is it's doing something like git log -1 --pretty=format:%at -- Collectinator/Collectinator.toc
17:22.17Kaeltenwhich returns a blank line
17:22.18stolenlegacythen read the whole thing do for i, k in pairs(infected) do if k then dosomething(i) end
17:22.39cleverstolenlegacy: but what about detecting when GetUnitName("mouseover") changes?
17:22.45cleveror do i just scan it every frame?
17:22.59stolenlegacy!api UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT
17:22.59lua_botUPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT: Fires when the mouse cursor moves over a visible unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT)
17:23.08cleverah, more events!
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17:24.20Repo10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r88 portals.lua: dont show spells on cooldown in the list (ticket #6)
17:25.06cleverso that only leaves exporting the data to an external program at the end of everything
17:25.18stolenlegacysavedvariables are your friend
17:25.27stolenlegacy##SavedVariables: infected_people
17:25.29stolenlegacyin your toc
17:25.41cleveryep, i just need to learn what the format is on disk
17:25.46cleverso i can read them without wow
17:26.23stolenlegacysavedvariables are in <wowpath>/WTF/Account/ACCNAME_IN_CAPS/SavedVariables/addonname.lua
17:26.40cleveryeah i saw the path when reading the questhelper pages
17:26.48cleverjust dont know how the file itself stores the data
17:26.52cleverwas about to open one in notepad
17:27.03stolenlegacythen go ahead
17:27.04stolenlegacy:)
17:27.20cleverah, plain text!
17:27.26stolenlegacyofc
17:27.31stolenlegacythey're .lua files after all
17:27.37Repo10collectinator: 03Kaelten 07master * Alpha3-136-g628baa9 local.xml: [+1 commit] again with the test for timestamps
17:27.44cleverreminds me of firefox's prefs.js
17:27.52cleverits just a javascript file with 200 function calls
17:28.25cleveraslong as something malicious doesnt slip actual lua code into there, its a good safe system
17:29.01stolenlegacyoh, I don't think they are really executed
17:29.08stolenlegacyeven though I'm not sure
17:29.21ArrowmasterClassKaelten: what version of git are you using on the server?
17:29.35ArrowmasterClassim not getting it to work with -1 on my server
17:29.45cleverstolenlegacy: yeah, the client can also parse them for just x=y lines, and not run the rest
17:29.51Kaelten1.6.0
17:30.04Kaeltenhrm and I have 1.6.4 on my local
17:30.04cleverand the entire lua system is sand-boxed, so it cant do very much harm
17:30.30ArrowmasterClassive got 1.6.5
17:30.52stolenlegacyclever: exactly
17:31.08cleverthe worst it could do is maybe cast lifetap over and over until you die
17:31.39Kaelten1.6.4 worked with it
17:31.56pentium166life tap fizzles at low health
17:31.59cleveri expect things like trade and auction to be protected from addons, so you cant be tricked into doing bad stuff
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17:32.13cleverpentium166: ahh, ive always been smart and never cast it at low levels
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17:32.40Gnarfozcast life tap until low hp, hellfire
17:32.49pentium166oh, that does work
17:32.52Gnarfozhowever, addons can't cast spells by themselves, so you're safe anyway
17:33.10Repo10collectinator: 03Kaelten 07master * Alpha3-137-ga7010cc local.xml: [+1 commit] another test for timestamp
17:33.12cleverGnarfoz: no way for the lua system to call macro's?
17:33.29pentium166it could rebind wasd to lifetap/hellfire though!
17:33.30Gnarfozof course, but not without user interaction
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17:33.53Gnarfozpentium166: out of combat, probably, yes, but even then that kind of stuff is kind of obvious :D
17:34.12cleveryou should notice it right away, and stop hitting the keys before you die
17:35.06KaeltenArrowmasterClass: Path passed into get_git_log: repos/packaging/git-local-checkout/wow/collectinator/mainline/Collectinator.toc for format: %at
17:35.13Kaeltenthat looks to be the bad call
17:35.19Kaeltenalso kinda explains why it works anyway though
17:35.26Kaeltensince that's not the first time that files been checked
17:35.50stolenlegacyclever: yup, CastSpellByName's a protected func
17:35.58stolenlegacyby the way, auction house functions aren't
17:36.10KaeltenArrowmasterClass: what's git describe?
17:36.20cleverstolenlegacy: what protections does CastSpellByName have?
17:36.21ArrowmasterClassKaelten: its not working for me locally though with realative path or even just no path
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17:36.31stolenlegacyclever: it can't be called by an addon
17:36.35cleverah
17:36.37stolenlegacyexcept for "casting"; e.g. opening, tradeskills
17:36.49stolenlegacyif you want your addon to cast a spell, you need to inherit a blizzard button template
17:36.49KaeltenArrowmasterClass: result, returncode = git('describe', cwd=repo_path) that looks to be the issue
17:36.54Kaeltenreturncode there is != 0
17:36.56ArrowmasterClassKaelten: it give the pretty name with the most recent tag and the number of commits since then and the hash of teh commit
17:37.19stolenlegacy!api SecureActionButtonTemplate
17:37.20lua_botCould not find a match for 'SecureActionButtonTemplate'.
17:37.28cleverstolenlegacy: what about custom action bars and/or triggering whatever is in a slot on the action bar?
17:37.28stolenlegacyoh, luabot doesn't know frame templates
17:37.34stolenlegacyclever: see above
17:37.36Fiskeryou got pills to pay Kaelten
17:37.44stolenlegacythey all inherit SecureActionButtonTemplate
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17:37.55cleveri'll google it
17:38.14stolenlegacyand then use that button's SetAttribute method together with the PreClick script handler
17:38.16cleverhttp://www.wowwiki.com/SecureActionButtonTemplate
17:38.19stolenlegacyexactly
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17:38.40stolenlegacyyou then can set stuffs using SetAttribute calls
17:39.13stolenlegacynote, however, that you can't SetAttribute an SecureActionButton in combat
17:39.16stolenlegacyto prevent botting
17:39.21cleverwhat about draging a spell and droping it into a 'slot' like the normal action bars?
17:39.39cleverso the addon can trigger whatever spell/action/macro i drop there
17:39.52stolenlegacyiirc, that's not possible in combat
17:40.03cleveryeah, but once out of combat, can i remap the slot?
17:40.10stolenlegacyof course
17:40.16stolenlegacythat's how, for example, PallyPower works
17:40.37clevernever made a paladin
17:40.44stolenlegacyrefer to http://www.wowwiki.com/API#Action_Functions
17:40.51stolenlegacypallypower creates a button
17:40.56stolenlegacyyou mash that button all the time
17:40.59stolenlegacyand it buffs the entire raid one by one
17:41.03stolenlegacyby remapping the button
17:41.17cleverah, so it basicaly cycles thru each raid member, and recasts the spell
17:41.24stolenlegacyexactly
17:41.35cleverthen i can change the spell in the slot, and repeat on the next buff
17:41.43stolenlegacyyup
17:41.47stolenlegacyPreClick is your/their friend
17:41.55stolenlegacyframe:SetScript("PreClick", yourscript)
17:42.00stolenlegacyDON'T use OnClick here
17:42.07stolenlegacythat overwrites the OnClick of the template
17:42.17cleverand then breaks the button itself
17:42.22stolenlegacyexactly
17:42.25cleverlike setting .onclick in javascript
17:42.29cleveronly one handler per event
17:42.38stolenlegacytheir prescript checks every raid member whether they have the buff you're assigned to buff them
17:42.39cleverwhich is why everything is converting to .addEventListener
17:42.44cleverwhich doesnt colide, and can share a event
17:42.53stolenlegacyif they don't break; SetAttribute("target", "raidx"); end
17:43.03stolenlegacythen the OnClick executes, and casts the buff
17:43.27Repo10collectinator: 03Kaelten 07master * Alpha3-138-g08f1efe local.xml: [+1 commit] another test commit for timestamps :/
17:46.11cleveralso, when playing on 2 computers at once, can they be on the same account?
17:46.28stolenlegacynope
17:46.41cleverso id have to pay for 2 accounts?
17:46.42stolenlegacyonly one login per account
17:46.46stolenlegacyyup
17:46.54stolenlegacywhat you're thinking about is called "Multiboxing"
17:47.00stolenlegacyplaying multiple characters at once
17:47.04cleveryeah
17:47.20cleverive seen some posts about people '2boxing' so they can have there own private healer
17:47.29stolenlegacyyou can recruit-a-friend your new, secondary, account
17:47.46stolenlegacyand the free month of play you get when the new accounts gets a wow cd key added makes up for the cost of the key
17:47.50cleveri think each recruit lasts 10 days, and i get 5 a month
17:48.03winkillerpro tip: multiboxing 2 melee is not fun
17:48.11stolenlegacywinkiller: yup
17:48.17stolenlegacyI use multiboxing to just level chars to 60 quickly
17:48.28Groktarnibbles on stolenlegacy's soul
17:48.32cleverjust looking for a free way to get the 2nd pc to help
17:48.38stolenlegacy2 chars with recruit a friend + 80 to boost through instances
17:48.38stolenlegacyforces Groktar to skit it out.
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17:48.47stolenlegacyclever: /follow and /assist /cast spell
17:48.59stolenlegacyor /cast [target=yourchar]Heal
17:49.11cleveryeah, using macro's with those would help alot
17:49.21cleverid just need a way to re-activate the 2nd acct
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17:49.40stolenlegacypurchase a cd key
17:49.50stolenlegacythat's 40 days of play for practically no price
17:50.00stolenlegacysince the free month you get as a referral bonus makes up for the price of the cd key
17:51.07cleverand about the 'scroll of resurection', can my 1st acct resurect the 2nd, then i pay the 2nd
17:51.14cleverand get a free month on the 1st?
17:51.37stolenlegacydunno
17:51.51stolenlegacynever used SoR
17:52.21Daemonadamn, what a lucky bastard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO2rW1alVv8
17:53.55stolenlegacyDaemona: is that link sfw?
17:54.01cleverstolenlegacy: looks to be
17:54.04asmodaifucking A
17:54.05Daemonayes it is
17:54.07cleverjust a traffic cam video
17:54.08asmodaiDaemona: That's nuts :|
17:54.10sb|workis that you Daemona???
17:54.40Daemonain the bus or the car? because i am definitly not running like a gay ;)
17:54.43stolenlegacyDaemona: rofl
17:54.55stolenlegacywell, you definitely weren't in the car
17:56.55cleverummmm, where did baelgun go?
17:57.43Repo10collectinator: 03Kaelten 07master * Alpha3-139-g6b517fd local.xml: [+1 commit] another timestamp test
17:58.00cleveri cant find my characters.....
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18:00.37cleverthere back
18:00.51asmodaiSod that, if I noticed a car and bus almost on my ass, I'd run in any form I could manage, damned if it looked gay :P
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18:04.07cleverstolenlegacy: so from what ive seen so far, the only form of 'database'(shared to all users) i can manage with an addon is if the read/write requests go to a channel, and each client stores a portion of the db
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18:04.26stolenlegacyclever: yup
18:05.12cleverso id have to implement some DHT features to speed things up and everything
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18:05.43cleverdht can handle who stores what and how to quickly find them
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18:07.43cleverthe server seems to be lagging behind in alot of things
18:08.02cleverthe minimap is missing images when i cross the border and alot of npc's loaded in groups
18:08.32clevergives an insight into how things work internaly, the molten metal in iron forge appears to be more of a npc then then enviroment around it
18:12.46stolenlegacyhmm
18:13.00stolenlegacyjust got asked to install Windoof vista sp2
18:13.42cleverwould an addon be able to watch the auction interface and read the letters i get back?
18:13.49stolenlegacysure
18:13.51cleverso it could track the cost per unit of junk i sell?
18:14.03Repo10collectinator: 03Kaelten 07master * Alpha3-140-gd1bc215 local.xml: [+1 commit] testing timestamp code
18:14.08cleverthe letters dont remind me how many i sold in the stack
18:14.09stolenlegacyyup
18:14.18stolenlegacyget Auctioneer
18:14.18cleverso the addon would need to watch my auctions going out
18:14.24cleveralready made? :P
18:14.45stolenlegacyAuctioneer is the end-all-be-all auction house solution
18:14.50cleverah
18:14.55stolenlegacyif you are on a bank alt, get QuickAuctions2 aswell
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18:20.32cleverseems the addon interface can disable addons on a per character basis now
18:21.37stolenlegacyit always could
18:21.42stolenlegacyoh yeah, you can do that from ingame aswell
18:21.44clevernever noticed the button before
18:21.47stolenlegacy!api DisableAddOn
18:21.47lua_botDisableAddOn: Marks an addon as disabled (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/DisableAddOn)
18:21.49stolenlegacy!api EnableAddOn
18:21.50lua_botEnableAddOn: Marks an addon as enabled (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/EnableAddOn)
18:21.59cleverwhen selecting characters
18:22.00stolenlegacyboth require reloading the interface to take effect
18:24.17Repo10collectinator: 03Kaelten 07master * Alpha3-141-gae50dee local.xml: [+1 commit] lost timestamp check, I hope
18:25.56stolenlegacyi'm gonna install windows service pack 2 just now, see you when it's done
18:29.58Repo10death_tracker: 03ansiik * r51 Death_Tracker.lua: update ui
18:31.46Stanzillahate hate hate
18:31.46Stanzillaanub heroic 0.7% wipe :(
18:33.49Repo10death_tracker: 03ansiik * r52 Death_Tracker.lua: update clear
18:35.05IngelaStanzilla, aawwwhh =(=(
18:37.43CyberKiLLanyone have a solution on why gatherer HUD will not show (i know how to use this addon) it really will not show up
18:37.50CyberKiLLeven after reinstall
18:38.13clevergetting some off stuff on my warlock, ocasionaly i cant loot junk my pet killed
18:38.21cleverdo i have to do a certain ammount of damage before its mine?
18:38.39IngelaCyberKiLL, did you try deleting the savedvariables too?
18:39.03CyberKiLLno i havent
18:39.11CyberKiLLwill that effect any other addon that i use?
18:39.15Ingelatry back it up and then delete it
18:39.22Ingelasee if that makes a difference
18:39.42Ingelanono just delete Gathererhud.lua in your savedvariable map
18:39.59CyberKiLLwhats path to that?
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18:46.33CyberKiLLok one other confirms his gatherer HUD and minimap overlay is not working
18:46.47CyberKiLLgonna see if theres more
18:47.05cleverwould help to compare the saved variables from 2 broken systems
18:47.19cleverthe 'hidden' option may be on:P
18:50.57Repo10death_tracker: 03ansiik * r53 Death_Tracker.lua: fix clear
18:51.38CyberKiLLok backed up and removed the lua, disabled all other addons and still no HUD
18:51.48CyberKiLLfriend did also
18:51.50CyberKiLLsame results
18:58.41cleverone other thing i forgot to ask, how do i get the x/y cords of my current location?
19:04.49IngelaCyberKiLL, something is obviously wrong with the addon then :)
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19:09.57NeoTronfinally decided to try to build firefox 3.5 on this ancient rhel3 dist
19:10.18NeoTronholy hell. Worst requirement so far is that, it appears, gcc 3.2 (which I built for ff2 I'm sure) isn't new enough to build pango..
19:11.33stolenlegacyclever: back, if you need anything more
19:11.42cleverstolenlegacy: figured out what i asked last
19:14.22cleverstolenlegacy: can you predict how often things like herbs and minerals respawn?
19:14.38stolenlegacyclever: nope
19:14.48cleverso just check them often?
19:14.51stolenlegacyyou could maybe create a timer from the last time the user herbed them
19:14.59Ingelai believe it's random
19:15.04Ingelaso even if you have a timer it's no use
19:15.13cleverso id have to just make a list and check every spawn point
19:15.30stolenlegacyif you have an exact respawn timer, that is
19:15.41stolenlegacycheck out Routes/Gatherer/GatherMate
19:15.55cleverwanted to make it myself for practice:P
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19:16.07stolenlegacyhehe
19:16.32clevercan an addon detect the minerals/herbs on the minimap?
19:16.35stolenlegacynope
19:16.37stolenlegacythat's c code
19:17.28cleverah, so id need to see them myself the first time i scout the area
19:18.24cleveri expect theres an event related to gathering the items
19:18.27cleverthen i can just log the location into a variable and check it later
19:18.34stolenlegacyyup
19:18.47stolenlegacyprobably one of the CHAT_MSG events
19:18.56stolenlegacyor maybe just SPELL_ something
19:19.01clevercan i put an icon on the minimap, under the herb location icon?
19:19.29cleverto show where it should be, without covering it up
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19:20.08stolenlegacyprobably
19:20.23cleverthe quest helper is often covering up the ?'s i need to turn quests in
19:20.36cleverits only a non-problem because i have an arrow pointing me towards it
19:20.52cleverbut to scan the area for herbs, id want the icon
19:20.57stolenlegacysimply hide the minimap icon once you get in tracking range :)
19:21.18Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r157 / (2 files in 1 directory): "lets become a good local lua citizen!"
19:21.23cleveryeah, i could hide the nearby ones so once i get close it shows the real one
19:22.31stolenlegacybut don't ask me on specifics of placing icons on the minimap
19:22.36stolenlegacynever worked with anything like that
19:22.45cleveri can always dysect questhelper
19:23.26Ackisdamn questhelper! it logged my keys!
19:23.41cleverare tables the only way to store a list of items?, no arrays?
19:23.49Superfly_<PROTECTED>
19:24.02cleverAckis: which keys?
19:24.35sztanpettables are arrays
19:25.04cleversome programing languages keep them seperate
19:25.19cleverlike QHash in c++ is a list of items with no defined order
19:25.21sztanpetuntil you brake the array with inserting non-sequential things or string keys
19:25.34cleverand QList is an ordered one, that maintains whatever order i put items in
19:25.53cleverand with javascript, you cant use string keys on an array
19:26.07cleverthey become attributes, which are wholy seperate, but act the same way
19:26.24sztanpethow is this relevant?
19:26.54cleverjust mentioning some of the oddities with arrays in other languages
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19:29.28Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r247 core.lua: do not update macro when item is no more in bag
19:33.11cleverstolenlegacy: what about drawing on the terrain?
19:33.31clevercan an addon draw a path on the ground?
19:33.45sztanpetno
19:33.57sztanpetan addon has no knowledge about terrain
19:34.12cleveror npc's in the env?
19:34.17cleveruntil i open a chat window with one?
19:34.33cleveror get attacked by one
19:36.31cleveris there a list of what it can and cant do generaly?
19:37.06sztanpetlook at the event list, you can basically react to events
19:37.32cleverbut i cant blindly draw on the ground?
19:37.56sztanpetit has no concept of ground, you can draw things onto the screen tho
19:37.59cleverto, for example, doodle on the roads and paint em pink?
19:38.04asmodaiNope.
19:38.17asmodaiYou are not manipulating the rendering engine.
19:38.29asmodaiYou are responding to events the world around you throws in your face.
19:38.31cleverjust laying things ontop of the pre-rendered image
19:38.55cleverand it has no info on what direction i'm facing?
19:38.57stolenlegacyexactly
19:39.05sztanpetnone at all
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19:39.27stolenlegacyI think you CAN get the direction you're facing, actually
19:39.35stolenlegacy!api GetUnitOrientation
19:39.36lua_botCould not find a match for 'GetUnitOrientation'.
19:39.36sztanpetat a time it did, there was an addon that automatically walked you off of zepelins because the loading times were so horrible
19:39.41cleverwhat about the up/down angel?
19:39.46sztanpetbut they fixed that
19:40.08cleverso i have no chance of calcing the xyz->xy myself, and placing objects on the screen to match up with enviroment objects?
19:41.02cleverive made my own 3d rendering engine from scratch before, and if i knew the correct x/y/z cords and where the camera was facing, could make a 2nd engine for overlays
19:41.28stolenlegacyyou do know the player's current coordinates
19:41.30Repo10death_tracker: 03ansiik * r54 Death_Tracker.lua: fix clear
19:41.45cleverand where the avarar itself is facing
19:41.50cleverbut not the camera, i dont think
19:42.04cleverand left click drag lets the camera&avatar desync
19:42.16stolenlegacy!api GetPlayerMapPosition
19:42.17lua_botGetPlayerMapPosition: Returns the position of the player's corpse on the world map (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetPlayerMapPosition)
19:42.29stolenlegacyhuh?
19:42.35cleverhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Map_coordinates
19:42.40stolenlegacythat's a mistake, that one shouldn't display the location of the corpse
19:42.53stolenlegacy!api GetCorpseMapPositio
19:42.54lua_botGetCorpseMapPosition: Returns the position of the player's corpse on the world map (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCorpseMapPosition)
19:42.58stolenlegacythis one does that
19:43.27cleverif i knew the exact direction the camera was facing, and my player location
19:43.40cleveri could calculate where an xyz cord from the env would show up on the screen
19:43.45cleverand then display something there
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19:44.22sztanpetyes, you said that before
19:44.30asmodaichuckles
19:44.49cleverbut so far, i cant see any way to get the actual camera data, so it wouldnt be very acurate
19:45.10asmodaiBecause you ain't mucking around with the camera.
19:45.43asmodaiLike I said, you're not dealing with the rendering engine.
19:46.09cleveryeah
19:46.20cleveri'm not even able to queue some of the rendering inputs
19:46.39cleverand without those key inputs, i cant make my own rendering engine to predict the other invisible output
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20:07.09CyberKiLLim lost without gatherer
20:07.22cleverCyberKiLL: what all does it do?
20:08.58AeyanMarks gathering nodes on your map and minimap
20:09.17cleverany kind of marking them as gathered?
20:09.54AeyanIf there isn't a mark in the spot you just gathered from, yes
20:09.59AeyanWell, actually, it comes with no marks by itself
20:10.18AeyanScratch that, I'm thinking about GatherMate
20:10.22AeyanI think Gatherer does
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20:10.43AeyanGatherMate doesn't unless you use it's companion addon, GatherMate_Data
20:12.13Repo10death_tracker: 03ansiik * r55 Death_Tracker.lua: adding channels in menu
20:15.49NeoTronholy hell pango/cairo/gtk has some nasty circular dependencies
20:15.54NeoTronwho the heck thought that out
20:16.24cleversome of them are optional i think
20:16.38Repo10death_tracker: 03ansiik * r56 Death_Tracker.lua: adding channels in menu
20:16.42cleveri think ive compiled stuff without pango before
20:17.31AeyanMy guess would be Behdad Esfahbod =P
20:18.04steevlulz, dw titanguard
20:18.04steevright Fisker?
20:19.49stolenlegacysteev: ofc!
20:20.32Repo10death_tracker: 03ansiik * r57 Death_Tracker.lua: color fix
20:20.35steevhttp://ubersekret.com/screenshots/titanguard.png
20:20.39kadrahilslaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout
20:20.49steevactually tanking while using them, that is a different story
20:22.27Repo10death_tracker: 03ansiik 04v3.2-r57 * r58 : v3.2-r57
20:23.23Aeyansteev: Nice.
20:23.54AeyanNever really liked the dual wield tanking concept, but more power to you =P
20:23.59steevAeyan: heh, i'm just messing around
20:24.02steevi'm a dw dpser
20:24.09AeyanHehe
20:24.20steevi DO tank occasionally, but i normally use abbadon when i do
20:24.24AeyanI could be, but meh
20:24.40steevi'm thinking of going back to 2h
20:24.45steevspecially with the legendary coming
20:25.18cleverwhats the different between all the damage types?, shadow, nature, and so on?
20:25.24AeyanWell, another reason for me to not play around with unholy DW
20:25.37AeyanIt won't be very shiny come next patch, as it stands
20:26.12Aeyanclever: Different resists, different talents/effects/immunities that affect a type and that's about it
20:26.14AeyanExcept for holy
20:26.15Stanzillawohooooooo
20:26.17Stanzillaanub down :>>
20:26.21AeyanCongrats
20:26.25Stanzillathx!
20:26.27stolenlegacyStanzilla: 25 hc?
20:26.40Stanzillayess :)
20:26.44stolenlegacycongrats
20:26.45stolenlegacytries left?
20:26.49steevAeyan: how so?
20:26.51cleverAeyan: ah, so it all depends on what the target monster is resistant to
20:26.53Stanzillalast try lol
20:27.14steevclever: yes
20:27.24steevclever: try using frost spells against water elementals
20:27.38cleversounds like it might have a bigger effect
20:27.48steevpaladins are about the only "casters" who never have to worry about spell types
20:27.54stolenlegacyStanzilla: what you call "close call"
20:28.00cleversteev: why?
20:28.02stolenlegacydid you at least manage to kill 90% of your raid before he died?
20:28.20steevclever: their "spell damage" is holy, and nothing seems to ever be immune to holy damage
20:28.28cleversteev: ah
20:28.55steevfrost dw dk, its a pain to fight water elementals - not impossible, but 3 of my 5 attacks, they are immune to
20:29.10steever 6
20:29.39Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r158 EnsidiaFails.lua: oops shouldn't have reverted molten spew and acidic spew
20:29.45steevplague strike, blood strike and oblit all hit them, frost strike, howling blast and icy touch they are immune to (as well as frost fever)
20:30.13cleverlol
20:30.17cleveri get /t spam from some dude
20:30.19steevjust like it is a pita for a shaman to attack an air elemental
20:30.26cleverand he has a addon to block my reply, incase it was spam:P
20:30.30Aeyansteev: Well, I might have spoke too soon. Seems reaping might not be making a glorious comeback after all
20:30.46Stanzillastolenlegacy: yes indeed :D
20:30.52steevAeyan: what did you mean though - I haven't gotten to spend much time on the ptr
20:30.53Stanzillaand no
20:30.55Stanzilla2 people dead
20:30.55steevor read up
20:31.06AeyanOh, they're changing scourge strike again
20:31.11steevoh yeah
20:31.20stolenlegacyStanzilla: too bad :(
20:31.20steevthe 1/2 physical 1/2 shadow
20:31.23steevor some such
20:31.24Aeyanand nerfing the IT glyph and UB
20:31.29AeyanYeah
20:31.38steevyeah, cuz UB is soooooo op currently ;)
20:31.42AeyanHehe
20:31.56AeyanIt's a few more % for 1 point, so I guess I can't complain too much
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20:32.00AeyanBut I really miss the old UB
20:32.03AeyanSo fun
20:32.11steevi do too
20:33.01steevi guess i should stop passing on justicebringer
20:33.25steevthe first time it dropped i gave it to our newest ret pally member
20:33.53steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/u7huF0ptQeEqgfz8/details/22/ look at those hawt ub ticks
20:33.53AeyanNice gift
20:34.07Stanzillastolenlegacy: I lied. no death :)
20:34.18Stanzillaoh wait, WoL is just slow
20:34.28Stanzilla3
20:34.39AeyanStill, 2.5% for 1 talent point =P
20:34.42steevanyone here ever "jumped the GCD" ?
20:34.48AeyanGotta keep it in perspective, I guess
20:34.55cleverdang, i just bearly caught the ship out
20:35.02cleveri'm literaly hanging onto the side of the thing
20:35.17stolenlegacyclever: huh?
20:35.41cleverstolenlegacy: i walked into the side of the ship as it was leaving port
20:35.57cleverand wound up on some invisible ground, cliped into the side of the shi
20:35.58cleverp
20:36.23cleverand then after the loading screen, it glichted and threw me in the water at dark shore
20:37.26cleveri'll screenshot it next time if i get a chance
20:40.13stolenlegacyclever: known bug
20:40.29stolenlegacyanyone else listening to robbie williams in concert right now?
20:40.49cleverstolenlegacy: ive gotten similar cliping bugs with the doors in undercity
20:41.09stolenlegacyclever: warsong hold elevator
20:41.15stolenlegacytry running into the wall
20:41.25stolenlegacythe elevator will overtake you and you'll fall - to your death
20:41.30cleveri can stand in the doorway, and the door close ontop of me
20:41.53cleverthen i can walk into the (not bottom-less) elevator shaft, and not get crushed as it comes back down
20:42.13stolenlegacyyeah
20:42.16stolenlegacyI know
20:42.56stolenlegacythat's because WoW doesn't have any collision at all between game objects
20:42.58stolenlegacyand/or players
20:43.12cleverthe door does cause colisions, when closed
20:43.16stolenlegacyyup
20:43.22cleveri cant walk thru the door until its fully open
20:43.28cleverbut it can close thru me
20:43.29stolenlegacyin wow, gos have two states - open and closed
20:43.39stolenlegacyand they have animations for closed, closing, open, opening
20:43.52stolenlegacyyou can run 'through' a door that's just started opening
20:44.00stolenlegacybecause the server instantly 'open's it
20:45.08cleveryeah
20:45.19stolenlegacybut GOs can't move players
20:45.19cleverand the server doesnt do the clipping when closing doors
20:45.25cleverthey go directly thru you
20:45.32stolenlegacythe elevator can't push the player 'into' the floor
20:45.39stolenlegacythe door can't pushthe player out of the door shaft
20:46.16stolenlegacys/door/lift/
20:46.58cleverthat bot must get anoying:P
20:47.05stolenlegacywhy?
20:47.26cleveri know regex, i dont need it performing regex and repeating half of what gets said
20:47.40stolenlegacyhaha
20:47.53asmodai~cookie
20:48.01stolenlegacy~42
20:48.02purl42 is probably the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything
20:48.06asmodaipats purl
20:48.13stolenlegacypats purl
20:48.24asmodaiSweet lil' bawt.
20:50.11stolenlegacygot a bit "42" as my new desktop wallpaper now
20:50.12stolenlegacy:D
20:50.50asmodais/bit/big/ ?
20:50.57stolenlegacyyes :D
20:51.02asmodaiheheh, naise
20:51.38stolenlegacyclever: as for getting stuck in ships - that's probably because the ship is a low-polygon model from classic days
20:51.53stolenlegacyjust take a look at druids' ToL model - and that one was created during BC dev
20:52.08cleverToL?
20:52.21clevermost of the time, there are 2 polygon models that ive seen
20:52.31cleverthe graphic one, and the clipping/collsion one
20:52.49stolenlegacytree of life
20:52.52cleverthe clipping one is generaly just a giant 'bounding box' for characters
20:52.56stolenlegacylooks fugly :/
20:53.07cleverah, the main tree in the startup village for druids?
20:53.19stolenlegacyno u!
20:53.32stolenlegacyhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=33891
20:53.35cleverthat came out of nowhere:P
20:53.39stolenlegacyyou never saw a druid yet? :/
20:53.44cleverive played 2 druids
20:53.57stolenlegacythe 41-point restoration talent
20:53.58stolenlegacy:/
20:54.06cleverahh, but never gotten that tol spelll
20:54.34stolenlegacylow-polygon model
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20:54.45cleverahhh, level 50!!
20:54.59stolenlegacywhen comparing with all my shiny gear, I'd love to get some competetive ht-spamming balance/resto hybrid spec without ToL
20:55.03stolenlegacyso I could show off my gear all day
20:55.04stolenlegacy:D
20:55.39clevercan addons block incoming wispers?
20:55.48stolenlegacyyup
20:55.53cleverthought so
20:55.54stolenlegacy!api ChatFrame_AddFilter
20:55.55lua_botCould not find a match for 'ChatFrame_AddFilter'.
20:56.02stolenlegacy!api ChatFrame_Add
20:56.02lua_botChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter: Adds a function to filter or alter messages to the chat display system (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter)
20:56.03cleversome random dude send me a /t about joining his guild
20:56.06stolenlegacythere you are
20:56.20cleverand i cant message him back because my level is too low and i dont know jack sh*t about northrend :P
20:56.43cleveri dont think i can even go there until i buy an addon package
21:04.02Repo10castbars: 03xbeeps * r70 Castbars.lua:
21:04.04RepoDrastically improved performance of global cooldown spark without sacrificing animation smoothness. Only the spark is moved every OnUpdate (based on current time), most of the rest is handled in ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_COOLDOWN event handler, and coefficients are precalculated once before showing based on the return value of GetSpellCooldown. Furthermore, the background opacity is only set every 0.1s instead of every OnUpdate. This avoids expensive calls to G
21:04.46sztanpetthat gcd spark is so not usefull
21:05.07Repo10castbars: 03xbeeps 042.25 * r71 : Tagging as 2.25
21:09.10miicatell me goodway to "crypt" messages :P
21:10.04Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta5-23-ge4c6b5b Options/Units.lua: [+1 commit] Ticket 606: Groups that were enabled and then redisabled during a single
21:11.22cleveris there a way to get the cords of your pet?
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21:17.11Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2584 RecipeDB (2 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
21:17.28RepoAdded missing acquire flags for some factions.
21:17.30RepoAdded a bunch of missing jewelcrafting acquire data to a bunch of recipes from these vendors:
21:17.31RepoIndormi <Keeper of Ancient Gem Lore>
21:17.32RepoOntuvo <Jewelcrafting Supplies>
21:17.58miicai wanna make system which allows me to see everybody else messages :3
21:18.17miicaso i can select guy from list and follow hes raid / party or whispers :3
21:21.27clevermiica: the guy you want to spy on would need to have your addon
21:21.38cleverand i dont think he would agree to it:P
21:21.46miicaclever: well
21:21.52miicaclever: you can add it to some other addon
21:21.58miicaclever: so they dont figure it out
21:22.08cleverand thats why addons are plain text
21:22.13cleverso you can review them for virii
21:22.25miicayeah but 90% peeps dont look them
21:22.36miicaand probably 90% peeps dont understand them
21:22.59cleverbut the managers of things like curse.com probly do the ocasional spot check on the junk they supply
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21:23.20miicayeah but i got few addon that my guild example use
21:23.33miicaand i am doing new "Multitool"
21:23.40miicaprobably gonna add it in it :3
21:23.54cleverand thats why you dont trust addons from untrusted people:P
21:23.57miicabut i need to somebody which helps me do it
21:24.09miicaor test it
21:24.19miicathat "client" side works :P
21:24.33miicaclever: i am trusted guy :<
21:24.37miicaclever: i am officer
21:24.55cleverisnt that what the catholic priest said? :P
21:25.04miica:D
21:25.27cleverdont trust guys just because of the position they hold
21:25.31cleveror claim to hold:P
21:25.43miicai am officer because peoples trust me :)
21:26.38miicaand one thing is coz i dont think anybody is special
21:26.55miicai treat them all sameway :)
21:27.08miicasame rules goes with everybody!
21:27.33miicabut now i am dictator
21:27.53miicai wanna oversee everything
21:28.49Arrowmastermiica: if you put something like that in your own addon and try to host it on curse youll find yourself banned from the site
21:29.15cleverArrowmaster: i was expecting them to do just such a thing!
21:29.37Arrowmasternot 'them', me
21:29.42cleverlol
21:29.46cleveryour a curse admin?
21:29.49TorhalI would as well.
21:29.55miica:D
21:30.39XtekAs would I.
21:31.00miicagonna make somekinda website
21:31.00Arrowmasterive banned for less
21:31.11miicawhere you can also look whispers and raid etc
21:31.24Belazortest if Im dcing
21:31.32steevyou are dcing
21:31.36Belazorno Im not
21:31.36BelazorXD
21:31.42steevyou are!
21:31.49steevyou and i are dc'd together!
21:31.51BelazorOH GOD STOP PING DEATH
21:32.02clevermiica: from what i know, your wow client cant interact with any websites
21:32.03miicaneed to do somekind lua i can add in any addon fast
21:32.05Belazoris that some form of homoerotic reference
21:32.05BelazorXD
21:32.08miicaif somebody ask some addon
21:32.15miicai just add that spy thing in it and share that
21:32.24steevmiica: i'd highly suggest you not do that
21:32.30miicaclever: yeah but i can get data out easily
21:32.45cleverwhich brings me to a new question
21:32.51cleverhow often are the savedata files updated?
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21:33.18miicaalways when i logout?
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21:33.19TorhalUnpon logout/reload
21:33.19miicawell ofc it isnt instant
21:33.19cleverwhen wow shuts down, or every now and then
21:33.20Torhals/Unpon/Upon/
21:33.39cleverTorhal: ah, so i cant monitor the file and gather data as i play
21:33.42miicaor you can have second account which reload example every 5min
21:33.46cleverenless i hammer /reload alot
21:33.46Torhalmiica: And seriously, why would you want to be a scumbag?
21:34.01steevi'm still trying to figure out the need to spy as well
21:34.18miicaTorhal: ofc not
21:34.23miicai just wanna tryt that :D
21:34.41steevmiica: get a second account
21:34.45miicaand that is kinda easy to do..
21:35.11miicajust make them join channel and when they get msg event add message to channel :O
21:35.57Arrowmasteryoull never get anybody to install it
21:36.11miicait is easy ass hell
21:36.17Arrowmasterno its not
21:36.40cleverdangit, i'm dead
21:36.41miicawell i just upgrade one of my addon and add it in it :3
21:36.58Arrowmasterand where would people get that addon from?
21:37.05miicaforums :P
21:37.25miicarealm forums :)
21:37.37miicait is kinda good addon btw
21:37.41clevergood luck getting banned there aswell:P
21:37.44miicahelps lot guild officers ;P
21:38.02miicai made it help myself
21:38.11miicathen others saw it and they wanted it aswell
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21:38.30miicait telss peoples PR (epgp) number / class / rank when they say bid in raid chat
21:38.35miicamakes easy to give loots
21:39.12TorhalAnd the whole spying thing makes people uninstall it.
21:39.13miicai need to also add somekinda functionality which allows me to whisper peoples in their names
21:39.24ShefkiSpying?
21:39.24miicaTorhal: well they dont see it
21:39.37miicai know few peeps who share accounts
21:39.38TorhalShefki: He wants to make his addon spy on people's whispers and such
21:39.45ShefkiWTF
21:39.47miicaand i can example ask password
21:39.53TorhalShefki:  Exactly
21:39.56clevermiica: ive done that with irc scripts, it gets alot of hate towards your name which doesnt fade very fast
21:40.24Shefkimiica: Seriously, it's dishonest and we really don't need people giving the addon community a bad name.
21:40.28miicathats why i need to add it to some other addon and now my own
21:40.35Torhal???
21:40.46Arrowmasteryou cant do that
21:40.49clevermiica: thats what i did, they will still find out eventualy
21:40.59miicahmm..
21:41.05TorhalSo now you're wanting to not only be a scumbag, but a super scumbag for doing bad shit under someone else's name?
21:41.07TorhalDude.
21:41.09TorhalWTF?
21:41.36AntiarcHow hard is it to draw a line at an arbitrary rotation on the worldmap?
21:41.41NeoTronsweet. I can now run firefox 3 binary builds on my rhel3. so much hackery
21:41.44miicayeah need to figure some smart way to filter all text
21:41.54NeoTronpango-cairo-gtk has a special place in my heart for cyclical dependencies
21:42.13cleverNeoTron: you could get a pre-built binary with all the required lib's staticly linked:P
21:42.15cleverwould be extra fat, but also extra portable
21:42.29miicaif i got like one channel where 20 guys spam all their whispers it is kinda fast flood..
21:42.35cleveri think skype does it
21:42.52NeoTronclever: afaik there is no such thing
21:42.58cleverNeoTron: build your own:P
21:43.07cleverhack up the make files to staticly link
21:43.07NeoTronyeah see that requires the same libs
21:43.09Shefkimiica: Here I'm gonna give you a hint.  GTFO before someone bans you.
21:43.20cleverNeoTron: but once done, it will work in any linux system
21:43.21NeoTronmozilla is such a simple small project
21:43.25NeoTronbesides it probably wouldn't work
21:43.38cleverive linked the qt libs staticly to a .dll before
21:43.53cleverthats similar to linking gtk into a program
21:43.53miicaShefki: :<
21:44.01cleverstaticlt
21:44.05cleverstaticly
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21:44.53TorhalAntiarc: Look at Routes.
21:45.43cleverdead again
21:46.14AntiarcI want to write an addon sort of like Tomtom, but not really
21:46.20AntiarcBasically, it'll just project a line on your current heading
21:46.24AntiarcSo you can tell where you'll end up
21:46.35jnwhitehshouldn't be hard at all
21:46.35AntiarcToday's example: Flying to Utgarde Keep from Dalaran
21:46.45jnwhitehmuch much easier than Cart/TomTom
21:46.45TorhalLook at how Routes handles the line-drawing.
21:46.50AntiarcI figured it probably would't be too difficult
21:47.10NeoTronmain issue I seem to have is that font rendering is craptastic
21:47.19NeoTronI managed to get some of it anti-aliased but a lot of it is not
21:48.29AntiarcIf I can figure out how to draw the line, I'll just need a little basic trig and it should be easily done
21:48.43*** kick/#wowace [miica!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (keep talking about illegal activities and it'll be a ban instead of just a kick)
21:49.03cleverCairenn: i wouldnt call that exactly illegal, just against the rules
21:49.32ShefkiIt probably crosses into anti-malware laws in some juridictions.
21:49.58cleveryeah, depends on the region
21:50.03Ackisit crosses the moran law
21:50.19Cairenneither way, we don't want it discussed in here
21:50.19ShefkiAckis: That's for sure.
21:50.49Arrowmasterlook up the definition of illegal
21:50.57ShefkiIt's bad enough some people think we're greedy bastards, don't need people thinking we're nossy too.
21:51.02Ackisi'm just a bastard
21:51.19cleverArrowmaster: i consider illegal tasks as stuff the cops will arrest you for
21:51.27cleverArrowmaster: the cops wont arrest you for breaking rules in a game
21:52.00cleverenless your in a casino, breaking the rules of a game wont get you arrested
21:52.07ShefkiAckis: BTW Ackis, the patterns that Kael'thas drops are also world drops.
21:52.26ShefkiAckis: And to be clear I mean Kael'thas in Magisters' Terrace.
21:52.30Arrowmasterdifferent patterns actually
21:52.34Ackisare you sure?
21:52.39Ackisiirc they removed the world drop
21:52.41ShefkiYes each one has two patterns.
21:52.43ShefkiOne that is BOE.
21:52.44Ackiswhen they added it to him
21:52.50ShefkiAnd one that is BOP that he drops.
21:53.07ShefkiThe BOE ones still drop they're just rare.
21:53.32CrazyBenny_yeah, got the BOE one last week in outlands
21:54.07Ackisok
21:54.21Ackispompy:
21:54.24Ackis^
21:54.26Ackis:D
21:54.40ShefkiWTF is up with www.msnbc.msn.com
21:54.46ShefkiHalf the time the domain doesn't resolve for me.
21:55.24clevercan an addon measure my mana?
21:55.34ShefkiSure
21:55.36cleveraddon or macro
21:55.38ShefkiUnitPower()
21:55.55cleverwas thinking of making a macro to lifetap automaticaly
21:56.00Arrowmasterno
21:56.08ShefkiYou can look at the mana, but you can't do that.
21:56.14cleverwhen i press a button
21:56.23cleverinstead of casting the spell it normaly does, cast life tap
21:56.34ShefkiCasting spells has to be done from secure code.
21:56.35jnwhitehnot possible
21:56.49cleverit cant change which spell the secure button does?
21:56.57ShefkiNot in combat.
21:57.01cleverahhh
21:57.06cleverand thats the only time id need it
21:57.41ShefkiAddons can display information, they can't generally make decisions for you.
21:57.42TorhalAckis: You're not a bastard. You're a silly bastard.
21:58.10cleverShefki: then it COULD show a giant flashing warning to tell me mana is low, life tap:P
21:58.29ShefkiAbsolutely, but you have to press the button
21:58.34cleveryeah
21:58.44cleverit still needs me to see that and make an active choice
21:59.11AckisTorhal: fix what Shefki was talking about
21:59.47ShefkiThere are a few things that you can do in combat that I think push the line, but I'm not going to get into that.
21:59.52TorhalAckis: That's too much research. I'm still having issues with waking up.
22:00.48Ackisexcuses
22:00.52Ackislook at the commit notes for collectinator today
22:00.55TorhalI did
22:01.01ShefkiHmm so I suck, the VisualHeal4 module doesn't respond to disabling itself for a layout.
22:01.12Torhalkaelten fooled me into thinking you were making huge strides.
22:01.28Kaeltenhrm?
22:01.41Ackiswhat a bastard eh?
22:01.48Ackishe's been at home all day w/o pants on
22:01.55TorhalKaelten: Collectinator's files page...for a minute there I thought Ackis might have burned his Xbox and started coding again.
22:02.04Kaeltenlol
22:02.11Kaeltensorry tracked down a bug in the packager though
22:02.19AckisTorhal: nope, in fact we bought 3 new games for it today :P haha
22:02.24TorhalYah, I saw it was choked on the timestamp uissue
22:02.35ShefkiI gotta admit I've been replaying the Metroid games on the Wii lately.
22:02.38TorhalAckis: Evil, evil man.
22:02.39ShefkiWoW is boring lately.
22:02.47AckisShefki: xbox360 > wii
22:02.53KaeltenI'm playing the compilation and debug game
22:03.05ulicI'm stuck on one of the GBA Metroids, Zero I think.
22:03.14ShefkiAckis: I'm not a big fan of the types of games that end up on the 360.  But I have 2 of them in the house anyway.
22:03.27TorhalKaelten: Ooh, that one's always fun. Hit enter, switch Screen over to another window...check back later...
22:03.35Kaeltenkinda
22:03.47KaeltenI spend more time testing thanc oding for sure though
22:03.48Kaeltenlol
22:03.54AckisShefki: I'm enjoying the console immensely if it wasn't for addons I'd be done wow for sure
22:03.55Tullerswordfighting on chairs
22:04.52Ingelawhy is there no proper blogg or anything like that for addons?
22:04.56Kaeltenaha, ok there is a single game in leatherworking but its alpha
22:04.58Kaeltenthat explains that one
22:05.19ShefkiThere's a UI Blog.
22:05.31IngelaShefki, where?!
22:06.38Shefkiwww.nostockui.com
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22:32.10Torhalstabs Fisker with a tuna salad sandwich.
22:45.45Daemonawow, that reads like the disclaimer on a box of smokes... Players who buy gold are supporting spamming, botting, and keylogging -- activities that diminish the playing experience for everyone else.
22:46.03Daemonaalso: Buying gold makes baby murlocs cry. -- Eyonix
23:07.44sylvanaarsztanpet tested a little in onyxia 10, tailsweep and deep breath are good. flamebreath - maybe that should just be fail on death - or should it be a fail at other times
23:08.10Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r305 / (5 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
23:08.25RepoRaidBuffStatus:
23:08.26Repo- Fixed some errors when joining a battleground.
23:08.28Repo- Fixed some "You are not in a party." messages when in a battleground.
23:08.30Repo- Fixed Priests with Spirit of Redemption so they only get announced once when they die.  It is announced when they turn in to the spirit so it give you a little bit of notice.
23:09.33sylvanaarthe big wings are pretty noticable
23:11.38fewynjust a little you'd think
23:12.42sylvanaarwings of fail
23:13.41sylvanaari wish you could brez someone out of them
23:24.59Daemonasylvanaar eating cleave should be a fail too, and most times a death
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23:47.32Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6615 Coliseum/ValkyrTwins.lua: * Experimental shield helper messages. Untested.
23:47.33Repo* Prints a message when the shield is on 50% - combine this with the cast bar and you have a good indication of how whether you'll make it or not.
23:47.35Repo* If the shield was not successfully removed, when the twin heals a message is printed saying how many % of the shield you missed.
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23:50.12NivFreakhrmm
23:50.19NivFreakhow do you get that info?
23:51.26Primerindeed
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23:53.27NeoTronmaths?
23:53.46NeoTronshield amount = X, shield left = X - <damage absorbed by shield>
23:54.10NeoTronso I'd say, from the combat log
23:58.54NivFreakthat was my guess, but ewww

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