IRC log for #wowace on 20091009

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00:01.04IngelaAdamar-Curse, i'd like a notifier like "Addon Questhelper just updated" or something for automated updates
00:01.12Repo10internal-cooldowns: 03Antiarc 07master * 32d1beb / (7 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fix a typo in the sink module
00:01.18Repo10libinternalcooldowns-1-0: 03Antiarc * r14 LibInternalCooldowns-1.0/Data.lua: Fix Rapture.
00:01.34AntiarcIngela: Verified that Rapture works now :)
00:01.40IngelaAntiarc, imba
00:01.44Ingelai'll try it out
00:03.04Ingelathe x and y omg that's soooo good
00:03.10Ingelacan place it exactly where i want it now
00:04.20Antiarchttp://i34.tinypic.com/25kmtjk.jpg
00:05.51Ingelataps his foot as you wait for libinternalcooldowns-1-0 to be updated on my curse client.
00:05.58Ingelaas "yoU" wait
00:05.59Ingelaggggggggg
00:05.59AntiarcIt'd still be alpha
00:06.04AntiarcSet the install type to alpha
00:06.07Ingelayeh i ahve
00:06.10Antiarckk
00:06.12Ingelait just takes some time
00:06.25Ingelanow!
00:06.25Ingela:D
00:06.48Ingelawhat was the problem anyways?
00:06.49AntiarcWrong spell ID. :P
00:06.57Ingela:)
00:07.08AntiarcJust pulled the right one out of last night's log
00:09.54Ingelaoh yeh btw, why does my ui like give up after i reloaded ui 20 times or something... eavesdrop doesn't log anything, sct not working, recount not getting any data
00:09.59Ingelahave to restart the game =(
00:10.57RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_rangefader2/. PitBull4_RangeFader2. mitch0 (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
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00:15.09NeoTronwhich means for some reason your combat log events stopped working
00:15.33Ingelayeap
00:16.28NeoTronsucks to be you
00:17.03GnarfozNeoTron: you're back? awsum. there's hope for MagicDKP, yet! ^^
00:17.38NeoTronI am
00:17.42NeoTronI fail at quitting
00:18.04NeoTronbut... I don't plan to manage DKP any time soon so not sure how much motivation I have to work on MagicDKP :P
00:18.22NeoTronany specific issue(s) you have?
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00:27.17Repo10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 1.0.0-3-gf806eb1 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Only use epic gems in slots when they score better than blue gems.
00:27.27YewbaccaI have an idea, it's pretty wild though... Imagine a window with two boxes, you put a piece of armor in each box. It scans their current gems, and auto-fills anything that it found. It then lets you use dropdown lists to swap gems for each socket (ordered by your own stat-weights). Every time you change a gem slot in the dropdown, the itemLink is rewritten to reflect this new gem
00:27.39Yewbaccaso that you can hover over the item icon and watch the changes. But more importantly:
00:27.54YewbaccaIt would also print all "stat differences" between both items, with Gems and enchants applied.
00:28.03YewbaccaIt's very doable with all the APIs currently in the game.
00:29.00YewbaccaWhat this lets you do is compare your armor with anything else in the game, filled with the gems and enchants you want, and see "Stamina +50, Strength -10" etc, a summary.
00:30.21YewbaccaThe real enabling factor was the new 3.2 command that receives an itemLink (even ones you generate yourself as a string with gems etc filled in), and returns an array with all the stats for that item.
00:32.00YewbaccaAnd to provide really meaningful information about differences (stuff like defense rating -> dodge/parry conversion) I'll use the excellent LibStatLogic by the RatingBuster author... hmm..
00:32.02NeoTronget going!
00:32.23YewbaccaYeah I'm currently planning :D
00:32.55MegalonAntiarc: sexycooldowns, if you play around with "max duration"
00:33.09Megalonit adds cooldowns if the new value is > this cooldown
00:33.17YewbaccaWhitetooth
00:33.26Megalonbut it does not remove cooldowns running from the bar is cooldown > new value
00:33.40Megalons/ is/ if/
00:34.14AntiarcAh, hm
00:34.39Repo10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 1.0.0-4-gd5d6fbc Considerater.toc: [+1 commit] Bump Version to 1.1.0
00:34.45YewbaccaWhitetooth, I think this would be something that should be integrated with RatingBuster, like a /rb planner command to open the window. Why do I think that? Well, because RatingBuster already has a perfect setup for each class to decide what stats they want to see compared in REGULAR tooltips. If I start to code this, are you interested in merging it as a feature?
00:35.14NeoTronRatingBuster_Planner - go
00:35.21NeoTronor something
00:35.22YewbaccaYeah exactly
00:35.32NeoTronbut it doesn't really need to integrate with RB does it?
00:35.45NeoTronand I'm sure I saw something like this, just without the gem thing
00:36.10Repo10considerater: 03catamorfizm 041.1.0 * b587269 /: [new tag] tagging 1.1.0
00:36.18YewbaccaIt could be standalone but then users would need to do a lot of work setting up both addons. RatingBuster has an amazing interface for each class to decide what stats they wanna compare, and all those settings are available in its database for its users.
00:36.32YewbaccaAnd most people that want such a planner would be interested in comparison tooltips as a 1st step before even opening a planner
00:36.34YewbaccaSo it's logical
00:37.14YewbaccaWhat I'm gonna do is run a bunch of tests to see how doable this is.
00:37.20Ingelawhile you're at it add a whislist too :)
00:37.25NeoTronI assume you can still rely on RB :P
00:37.45YewbaccaIngela: Download AtlasLoot, it's got just about all loot in the game and it has a wishlist (altclick an item in it and off you go :D)
00:37.46Megalonso you basically want wowequip
00:37.54Megalonwhich just one items instead of the whole equipment
00:37.57YewbaccaI've never seen wowequip
00:38.05Ingela:O
00:38.10Ingeladidn't know atlasloot had that
00:38.19YewbaccaIt does now, very recently :)
00:38.29YewbaccaYou have to press Options and create at least 1 wishlist first
00:38.37YewbaccaThen you just alt click i tems and select what wishlist to send it to
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00:38.47YewbaccaI use it extensively :D
00:39.05NeoTronhttp://media.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/14902/15013/WoWEquipBeta.png
00:39.40YewbaccaHmm
00:39.47YewbaccaHmmmmm
00:40.25YewbaccaInteresting that there was something like this, except it's insanely useless since you need to make a set and compare against your current set :D
00:40.46YewbaccaI've never thought "hey I wonder what my stats would be if I had full t9.5"
00:40.59YewbaccaBut I have wondered "I wonder what a fully gemmed and enchanted t9.5 head would do for me"
00:43.05YewbaccaHmm, ok I've been thinking about it and I don't think WoWEquip is coded in such a way that a 1on1 item comparison is doable, and it's easy enough that I don't need to look at any code (generate itemLink as string, with gems in it, then use the 3.2 tooltip scanner api to get its info).
00:43.50YewbaccaI'm gonna go ahead and test the idea and see what happens.
00:44.52YewbaccaPre-3.2 it'd be hard, you'd have to manually have a list of each gem's stat and sum them together with itemstats retrieved with the ugly old tooltip line scanning, which is why I never dared try it before now.
00:45.02YewbaccaSo off to try
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00:52.20NeoTronok so Death knight is hard to spell. This dude spells is, consistently, as Deaf knight
00:53.04GnarfozNeoTron: specifically? hm. some of what is documented in open tickets, plus, some members of my guild say the Client addon has trouble saving its settings (like Autopass on unusable etc)
00:53.52Repo10transcriptor: 03Rabbit * r115 Transcriptor.lua: Fix error after clearing all logs.
00:54.00GnarfozYewbacca: what you described sounds a lot like Xinhuan's WowEquip addon. ;)
00:54.17Gnarfozmeh, scrollback
00:54.28YewbaccaHehe yeah you noticed :D
00:54.42YewbaccaI commented on that addon above, while it seems very well coded I don't see the point.
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00:55.51NeoTronthey should add the spider things from Ulduar as an engineer and/or gnome mount
00:55.52Gnarfozsince you can use a copy of your current gear as a template, what you want to do is very much doable
00:56.10Gnarfozyou would copy your gear and then just change the one item you want to change
00:56.11NeoTronGnarfoz: if it doesn't save settings. likely their savings don't save
00:56.13Gnarfozand see what it does for you
00:56.27NeoTronGnarfoz: I seriously doubt that's my fault unless thye have errors during the loading
00:56.28GnarfozNeoTron: wut? yeah, something about the SV mechanism would be broken, I guess?
00:56.36YewbaccaGnarfoz: Oh, that's more like it. I thought you'd have to constantly setup your current gear and change 1 piece
00:56.52Gnarfozwell, the one guy who is knowledgeable enough about it said he just hardcoded the stuff that didn't stick for him to 'false' in the lua
00:56.52YewbaccaDoes it support enchants too?
00:56.54NeoTronI've had cases where saves didn't happen ebcause the save file wasn't writable
00:56.59GnarfozYewbacca: yeah
00:57.03GnarfozYewbacca: and gems, too
00:57.10Gnarfoznot sure if it needs any updating for 3.x though
00:57.12NeoTronpeople claim Magic Runes doesn't load save variables and I don't see it
00:57.24GnarfozNeoTron: huh? hm, not I'm pretty certain that's not the problem
00:57.26YewbaccaAlright, hm
00:57.40YewbaccaOne thing's for sure, it's doing it the way I dreaded
00:57.42YewbaccaPre-3.2
00:57.47NeoTronbut see it this way. if it works for some, how can it not work for others?
00:57.52GnarfozI've not experienced any problems myself though, so there's a limit to what I can attest to
00:58.02NeoTronoh wait
00:58.03Gnarfozone difference is that it's a deDE client
00:58.10YewbaccaHaving to scan tooltip lines, and have knowledge of each gem's effect, and all enchants, and sum it yourself.
00:58.10NeoTronah that
00:58.13NeoTronyes it fails
00:58.14Gnarfoznot sure that should factor into anything, though
00:58.17NeoTronI believe I asked for format strings
00:58.31GnarfozYewbacca: LibStatLogic or something, or LibItemBonus? ask Xinhuan
00:58.38YewbaccaYeah but did you see 3.2 changes?
00:58.49Gnarfozwhy would it need format strings for its own settings like 'use autopass yes/no'? ;o
00:58.49NeoTronand at the time of quitting, no one provided them to me
00:59.02NeoTronbecause parse the format strings
00:59.03YewbaccaThere's a new API to take an itemLink and spit out all the stats of all gems, enchants, everything. FINALLY, THANKS BLIZZARD>
00:59.07NeoTronand it breaks loading then the parsing fails
00:59.27Gnarfozdo tell what you need when you have time, they should be easy to obtain, right?
00:59.31NeoTronbesides if auto-pass is on, it can't auto pass without properly formatted strings to scan the item
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00:59.39NeoTronyep
01:00.26NeoTronalthough
01:00.38NeoTronYewbacca's mention of some way to parse item links might rmeove the need to scan
01:00.46YewbaccaGetItemStats()
01:00.50YewbaccaNew command I think 3.2
01:00.58NeoTronif I can directly get stuff like amount of int, strength, spell damage etc I don't need any stinking item links
01:01.04NeoTrons/item links/gmatch/
01:01.16YewbaccaDo this: /dump GetItemStats('item:etcetcetc:gem:etc:enchant')
01:01.17AntiarcI either very much misunderstand the Scale animations
01:01.21YewbaccaI just LOVE blizzard for having made this
01:01.26AntiarcOr Blizzard's system is brokenish
01:01.32YewbaccaI'm about to test now to see if it can get stats for fake items
01:02.24NeoTronGnarfoz: ok so I'll fix magicdkp_client to rely on GetItemStats and probably remove the need to localize
01:03.06GnarfozNeoTron: that's even more awesome. ;)
01:03.52NeoTronyeah all I use that stuff for is stats
01:04.46AntiarcYeah, this is messed up
01:05.00AntiarcBasically, using a scale animation seems to scale the region by <scalar> every <period>
01:05.25NeoTronhttp://paste.wowace.com/1277/ as you can see, it's trivial if you can get the stats immediately
01:05.35AntiarcSo for example
01:05.41AntiarcIf you scale by 1.01 for 3 seconds
01:05.46AntiarcYou end up with almost a 300% scalar
01:05.52AntiarcI think it's scaling by X per frame
01:05.56AntiarcWhich is messed up.
01:06.10NeoTronsounds like it
01:07.03AntiarcUggghhh this sucks
01:07.30NeoTronso it it also dependant on your framerate?
01:07.36AntiarcI'm not sure yet.
01:08.18NeoTronso is there a SCT that uses the animation system yet? :P
01:08.35Antiarcnot as far as I know
01:09.45NeoTronseems like the number one obvious thing where it might be useful
01:10.05NeoTronexcept I don't know how easy it is to do more complex movements like circular ones, or "fountain" type modes
01:10.24AntiarcI don't know how to do non-linear transformation yet
01:11.48NeoTronhere's an addon idea. An addon that keeps track of your minimum/maximum stats while in combat and shows a meter of your current value relative to max
01:12.08NeoTronbasically a way to visually represent various procs to see when to pop your gargoyle or something
01:12.20NeoTronnot sure if it'd be useful :p
01:12.37AntiarcThat's basically what the test addon for libbars was :P
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01:14.07Antiarchttp://www.wegame.com/watch/Scaling_bug/
01:14.16AntiarcThat behavior is from http://pastey.net/126254
01:15.26NeoTroncute
01:15.44YewbaccaOk this is quite disappointing, Blizzard didn't think enough to sum the gems and enchant effects from items when they designed GetItemStats(), which should at the very least have been (itemLink,boolIncGems,boolIncEnchants) to toggle that we want the gem and enchant parts of the itemLink to be calculated.
01:15.59YewbaccaSo for instance: /script local _, itemLink = GetItemInfo("{drop an item here from inv}"); local info = GetItemStats(itemLink); for k,v in pairs(info) do print(k..' = '..v) end << only shows base info.
01:16.19YewbaccaYou'll still have to do GetItemGem() for gems
01:16.27NeoTronbut
01:16.28YewbaccaAnd then have a table of each gem effect and add it to the item stats table :/
01:16.36NeoTronyou can do tha and then use it with getitemstats?
01:16.42NeoTronor not?
01:16.47YewbaccaI just had the same idea
01:16.54YewbaccaGetItemGem() then getitemstats on the gem link
01:17.01YewbaccaLet's see
01:17.14NeoTronyep should do the trick
01:17.24NeoTronnot as eas as you expected, but trivial relative to manual parsing
01:17.34YewbaccaYeah and the new GetItemStats() is superb
01:17.44YewbaccaNo more locale problems or anything
01:18.16AntiarcYou know
01:18.32AntiarcI suspect that this is a bug, and nobody has found it yet because nobody has used the animation system :V
01:18.51NeoTronyep
01:19.04NeoTronAntiarc: not unlikely. or more likely, no one has tried to use scaling
01:19.12NeoTronanyhow home time
01:19.41Ingelaif i want an option for sharedmedia statusbars for example, i do
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01:19.50AntiarcWhoa, what the hell
01:19.54AntiarcThe second time I scale something
01:19.57AntiarcIt works as advertised
01:19.58YewbaccaGetItemStats() did not work on gem links.
01:20.09Ingelabut yeh, how do i read the information the statusbar set?
01:20.13YewbaccaTypical blizzard, incomplete APIs
01:20.34Ingela<PROTECTED>
01:22.08YewbaccaThis is not just typical blizzard, it's TYPICAL blizzard (meaning fucked up). If you give GetItemStats() an itemlink full of gems etc, it ACTUALLY gives you fields like: EMPTY_YELLOW_SLOTS=1, etc, even though they're filled. It'd make a *little?* more sense if it at least looked at the link.
01:22.57YewbaccaSo what has to be done is, well, annoying: GetItemStats() to get the base stats, then keep track of socket count, then GetItemGem() each, then use the Gem IDs to look in a LOCAL handmade database of what each gem adds, then sum that, and then do the same for enchants.
01:23.01YewbaccaNo no no no, screw that.
01:23.40YewbaccaIt's not even that hard, I know, but if anyone wants to do it, feel free. I'm not interested in maintaining databases of all gems and enchants and update as soon as they change. :P
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01:24.35YewbaccaEspecially not when A) the game client knows perfectly well what the item stats are based on the item link full of gems, and B) the GetItemStats() was designed by monkeys :P
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01:28.54YewbaccaIf you wanna see the nice new functions that they screwed up, see http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemStats and http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemStatDelta
01:29.13YewbaccaI bet RatingBuster still does oldschool tooltip scanning just because of this, since it sums gems and enchants and anything else.
01:30.48YewbaccaThere isn't even an API to get the enchant of an item, that HAS to be done via tooltip scanning (just checked)
01:30.52YewbaccaF U blizz, once again :D
01:37.04GagorianYewbacca: Umm, as far as I know you can get the enchant from the itemlink?
01:38.15YewbaccaYeah good point, as an itemlink. That goes for gems too though. None of this makes any sense, blizzard KNOWS we scan tooltips to get stats of an item, we usually do not want the *BASE* stats without gems and enchants, and yet they didn't even provide switches to sum in other parts of the itemLink. They took the easy way out, inexcusable.
01:38.16GagorianAt least the enchant id
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01:39.29YewbaccaSo despite the new command we're back at two ways to go: Either build your own database of each enchant and gem and what it does, and sum it together with what GetItemStats() and manual itemLink parsing will give you. OR do tooltip scanning and get the proper stats right away, and tooltip scan libraries are mature enough now.
01:40.36YewbaccaWoWEquip was updated in 3.1, guess what that means? Yes, no epic gems. That's just one example of why I'm calling this off, I don't wanna have to maintain databases of items because blizzard were too stupid to think of *why* we want a tooltip scanner in the first place.
01:41.25YewbaccaThere's one way that might work: Generate a fake itemlink with the gem and enchant IDs you want, then set it as the itemRef of a tooltip and use one of the tooltip scanning libraries.
01:41.50Gnarfozulic: also: http://paste.wowace.com/1278/
01:43.33YewbaccaThat method would be the closest to something maintainable.
01:51.36Stanzillaman that twin valkyr door tactic is sooo lame
01:51.44YewbaccaAs I thought, RatingBuster still uses tooltip scanning. That's how useful the new crippled command is...
01:52.02YewbaccaAnd how many lines of code is the library for scanning that of every language? Why yes, it's 14000 lines of code :D
01:52.19YewbaccaWe shouldn't have to keep doing this the manual way.
02:04.09IngelaStanzilla, what door tactic?
02:05.23StanzillaIngela: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-3zshJ0YOA
02:05.40Ingela:O
02:06.08Stanzillathe video is the shittiest i've ever seen
02:06.20Stanzillabest part is where the dk fails to repair his red shoulders mid fight
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02:12.27Ingelaquestion, i just tried my addon when i had no addons on, no sharedmedia then... uhm... it's giving me an error as soon as i open the options window because i don't have sharedmedia
02:12.30Ingelaso it can't find the custom widget
02:12.38Ingelafor changing texture
02:12.51Ingelaso my question is, should i make sharedmedia an needed addon for it to run?
02:12.56Ingelaor how to fixx
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02:16.45rubikStanzilla: my head hurts from the music in that youtube video
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02:33.20AntiarcYour addon needs to embed AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets
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02:39.04IngelaAntiarc, yes i just figured that out, i fucked up bigtime with the libs hehe
02:39.18Ingeladidn't care about the libs i had everything when i'm on my main ^
02:39.25Ingelaso now i added them and it works fine
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02:41.05Ingelahmm... now how do i add libbetterblizzoptions
02:49.29Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2368 / (2 files in 2 directories): Atlas 1.15.0 now the supported version, 1.15.1 the beta
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02:51.20RepoAdded:
02:51.23Repo-SharedMedia textures
02:51.26Repo-Custom Width And Height
02:51.26quiescenscarefully
02:51.29Repo-Added RGB and Alpha settings
02:52.59Ingelahmm, how do i delete a folder
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02:54.34Repo35ad906: properly fix the model scalling issues without it impacting the hover animation
02:54.37Repo5724079: fix some instance data
02:54.40Repoda12730: run miner
02:54.43Repoe88265b: update miner to be able to fix wowhead missspellings /sigh
02:55.28Repo10ingelasrapture (experimental): 03ingela * r7 / (28 files in 9 directories):
02:55.32RepoApparantly not everything got uploaded. I'm a noob. Trying again! :)
02:56.06Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3-1-g04d4140 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add movable splash anchor. Damn this abominable piece of code and the hacks required to work around it to hell.
03:00.26IngelaAntiarc, :D
03:05.09Repo10ingelasrapture (experimental): 03ingela * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated so it actually works. Whee!
03:06.18Ingelaso i heard it's good having a working addon
03:06.39quiescensa common misconception
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03:12.25YssarilIngela: bah didn't see you online so i left a comment on your addon (short version: do not hard embedd libs)
03:13.01Ingelayes Yssaril i heard so too
03:13.18Ingelajust haven't got to the point where i was going to fix that
03:13.18Ingela=()
03:13.33Yssariltrust me its easier to fix now than later :P
03:13.55Ingelathen i will do it now then
03:14.04Ingelathanks for telling me btw :)
03:15.25Yssarilnp ask here if you need help with it can be alot to handle the first time through
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03:18.33Ingelayes ok, Yssaril, help me
03:18.57Ingelafor first included lib, AceAddon-3.0
03:19.00Ingelahow do i inlcude that
03:19.21Ingela<PROTECTED>
03:19.23Ingelais that good enough?
03:19.52Ingelaand also, should i delete all the libs
03:20.36YssarilIngela: yea you should not have a libs folder when you are done the packager creates it and fills it for you
03:20.45Ingelaaight
03:20.56Yssarilcheck out http://paste.wowace.com/1279/ its the pkgmeta file for my current project
03:21.05Ingelathanks alot
03:21.37Ingelaoh yeh Yssaril, this is my first addon as you noticed, sorry for my noobisness ^_^
03:21.43Yssarilnp :)
03:21.48Yssarilfigured as much
03:22.20Yssarilfirst line is usually unecessary it tells the packager exactly what folder name you addon should be
03:22.40Ingelapackage-as: ingelasrapture
03:22.40Ingela!!
03:22.45Ingelaone step ahead of you!
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03:23.21Yssarilyep :)
03:23.50Yssarilafter that we have our externals list (an external is any file/files that you are pulling from another project repository)
03:24.15Yssarilthere are 2 formats on how to write the list i prefer the compact one
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03:25.27Yssarilbasicaly goes like this <folder where you want your lib to be>: <repo of the lib>
03:25.45Ingelayeah, i found so much
03:25.45Ingela=)
03:26.35Yssarilat the bottom of my sample i have a file that is needed if you want to work on the project (a wowhead miner) but you dont need if you are a user as such i put it as ignored and it won't get packaged
03:26.48Yssarilbut people can still get it if they pull it from the repo
03:27.01Ingelaah, that's smart
03:27.16Ingelaso, ok, i think i added all the ace3 addons now
03:27.20Ingelaor libs
03:27.24Ingelanow onto the other ones
03:28.08IngelaAceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets hm.. wonder what kind of person that did this lib
03:28.12Yssarilalso watchout for some libs are found directly under trunk some are in a subfolder see the difference between the ace libs and the babble libs in my sample
03:30.17Ingelaoh yeh, that was a joke btw ;)
03:30.38Yssarilidk some idot with too much time on his hands i think
03:30.44Ingelahaha
03:30.45Ingela:D
03:32.07Yssarilfunny thing is i created them for a project that i never wrote (as such i have never used them in an addon myself) exept for the test addon i have :)
03:33.48Ingelaand now i use em :D thanks!
03:35.08Repo10ingelasrapture (experimental): 03ingela * r9 / (2 files in 2 directories):
03:35.11RepoDeleted hard embedded libs. Hopefully edited .pkgmeta file correctly. Thanks Yssaril for the help!
03:36.46Ingelaoh yeh now you can download -nolib version
03:36.48Ingelacool
03:39.50Yssarilyep :) also if you read throught he pkgmeta kb page you can turn off the nolib version :)
03:41.37Ingelathink i got all libs too, eveyrthing seems to be working fine =)
03:41.43Ingelathanks a lot again Yssaril
03:41.59Yssarilalso if you stick the libs in an xml file the file is usually named embeds.xml though you can just reference them via the toc file just fine
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03:42.52Yssarilyou can even let the packager comment out the lib references in the toc file for nolib version (highly recomended since it helps with start times)
03:43.31Ingelai think i'll just disable the nolib
03:43.42Ingelabecause the addon deosn't even work 10% without the libs
03:44.27YssarilIngela: reason for the nolib version is so that people can download them sepearatly and thus dont have to load 20-30 copies of the same lib
03:44.54Ingelayeh, but i will create 2 files eveyrtime i update the addon, and that's taking space isn't it?
03:44.55Yssarilthe curse client can automatically download all libs needed for an addon if you download the nolib versions
03:45.16YssarilIngela: space is cheap bandwidth is expensive :)
03:45.24Ingelaok :D
03:45.30Ingelai just keep the nolib version there then =)
03:46.25Yssarilone last thing for nolib version to work correctly you also need to reference the libs as optionaldependancies so that they get loaded before your addon
03:46.41Ingelamaybe it's time for me to get it past experimental stage now
03:46.42Yssarilhttp://paste.wowace.com/1280/ <-- sample toc of my latest addon :)
03:47.49Ingelaah! just seems to be alot of problem with the nolib verison!
03:50.30Yssarilhehe has its ups and downs
03:57.25Yssarili like to run with only nolib versions makes finding errors alot easier especcialy if they happen in a lib
03:57.26Ingelai'll just add no nolib versions right now and see if i can dig into it some other day, time is 05.52 here :)
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03:57.26Yssarilhehe also best time to debug an addon is during instance runs and raids :)
03:57.27Repo10ingelasrapture (experimental): 03ingela * r10 .pkgmeta: Added: enable-nolib-creation: no
03:57.27IngelaYssaril =)
03:57.27Yssarilbtw i wansn't joking :P i have done plenty of coding/debugging during raids
03:57.27Ingelai did too, until we wiped becuase i did /rl in a heroic lol
03:57.27Yssarilhehe helps being a dps class
03:57.28IngelaYssaril, do you think it's ready for reapproval?
03:57.56Yssarili would say so as long as it works
03:58.36Yssarilthey are generally fairly forgiving with the actual addon (as long as it dosn't hard embed libs :P)
03:59.07Ingela:D
03:59.32Yssarilif you ever make a lib i would toss the idea around on the forums first though :)
03:59.57Arrowmasterpff i spent most of a hyjal raid after 2.4 debugging threat-2.0
04:00.23Arrowmasteri think some healers might have done more damage than me
04:00.47YssarilArrowmaster: did your raidleader know what you where doing though?
04:00.53Ingelahaha
04:01.10Arrowmastersorta but not really
04:01.22Yssarilhehe
04:03.20Arrowmasterthey knew i worked on addons a lot of them used but it became apparent later that week i think exactly which i was working on mostly when i yelled at people to update omen because they still had bugs "I already fixed a day ago"
04:03.42Yssarillol
04:04.45Yssarilloves the fact that we now have actual threat numbers and don't have to guess anymore
04:04.54Ingelahaha yes
04:05.00Ingelai remember in vanilla when you had to guess aggro
04:05.00Ingela:D
04:05.07Arrowmasterthat was debug hell week
04:05.19Yssarileven BC you had to guess
04:05.39Arrowmasterit was an addon guessing but they were guesses
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04:05.56Ingelaoh yeah i mean before omen, like when you had to guess depending on like crits
04:05.57Yssarilgot easier due to the new combat log but still a pain in the ass
04:06.32Arrowmastermore accurate, not necessarily easier
04:07.49Yssarilmeant easier as in no longer needing to extract dmg from strings
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04:09.09Ingelaomg i'm tired, been coding for like 3-4 hours now or something and clock is 6.10
04:09.22Ingelalife sucks if you're a noob <.<
04:10.00Yssarilgets easier (till you start working on something harder) :P
04:10.42Ingela:D
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04:12.28NeoTronepic. 10 man beasts. we had 3 or 4 people dead already.. and I am tanking as the only tank alive.. and I get DI'd
04:12.34NeoTronwhen we realize it's me and a priest left
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04:50.43pompy1anyone on the Burning Legion-EU server?
04:50.58RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tidy-plates-clean-plates/. Tidy Plates: Clean Plates. suicidalkatt (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
04:51.03RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ingelasrapture/. Ingela's Rapture. ingela (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
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05:09.13asmodaiyawns
05:11.22asmodaiAntiarc: I'll make sure to track alpha for now wrt sexycooldown
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05:56.50digmouseanyone's Equipment Manager working on PTR?
05:58.23asmodaidigmouse: It should show a button on the character frame, right? Because I didn't see that yesterday.
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05:59.25Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r107 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed Violet Proto Drake speed (ticket #33).
06:00.02digmouseasmodai: it wont save any set
06:00.05Repo10squire: 03Adirelle 04v1.7-beta * r108 : Tagging as v1.7-beta
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06:52.15orionshockAntiarc: also, disabling tooltips or locking the bar prevents the "right click to blacklist"
06:54.24Antiarcorionshock: Hrm. I'll have to think about how best to solve that.
06:55.04orionshockAntiarc: also, unequiped trinkets shouldn't be on the bar :)
06:55.13Antiarcare they?
06:55.27orionshockyes
06:55.28AntiarcYou may have an old copy of LibInternalCooldowns if they're trinkets with internal cooldowns.
06:55.49orionshockno internal CD, known CD from Bag_update
06:56.08AntiarcOh, hrm, shared cooldown item?
06:56.17orionshocki've got 3 AP/SP trinkets, when i use one the ~12sec CD from the one in the bag shows up
06:56.38orionshocki expect the CD from the 2 im wearing to show up always, but ... the one in the bag?
07:06.24Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3-3-g9a58102 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add profile support.
07:15.56digmousecrap.. addons messed on PTR
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07:22.21orionshockok, so how do you kill a shammy?
07:22.31orionshockone that 3 shots you?
07:23.31fewyncry on the forums until they get nerfed and then kill them?
07:25.38orionshocki should...
07:25.44orionshockwhere is the skill?
07:28.16quiescens->
07:31.08asmodai<-- shammy
07:32.07asmodaiAlthough I seriously prefer shaman.
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07:37.45orionshockasmodai: you guys suck (shammy) btw
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07:38.58kromarhi, anyone knows if wowui.incgamers.com has a irc channel?
07:39.14asmodaiprofalbert: We aim to displease.
07:39.23asmodai#wowuidev or something IIRC
07:39.33profalbertasmodai: hm?
07:45.47asmodaierrr
07:45.50asmodaimistype
07:45.52asmodaimeant orionshock
07:45.53Elkanoiirc incgames used to run their own ircd
07:45.59Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3-4-g9cd7753 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add alternate bar orientations
07:46.08Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6544 Ulduar/Thorim.lua:
07:46.11Reporevert cleanups, it's actually a fuckup waiting to happen. This fixes the issue with half the Impale's throwing errors.
07:47.10[Ammo]ruining my morning coffee grrrrr
07:48.38quiescenso.o
07:50.19Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3-5-ga3e06c0 prototype.lua: [+1 commit] Restore a piece of code that was causing lockups; fixed now.
07:51.52asmodaiswitches [Ammo]'s coffee with tea
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08:02.49asmodaiWhat a bullshit
08:03.07asmodaiWhen Dragon Age gets released it will already have 3 downloads available, which you have to buy
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08:09.46Elkanohmm?
08:10.29quiescenshmm
08:11.28Elkanoasmodai, have any link on that?
08:13.41asmodaiElkano: Let me find an english one
08:13.46asmodaiElkano: unless you can read Dutch? :)
08:13.59Elkanonot that well ^^
08:14.00asmodaiah wait, english
08:14.08asmodaihttp://www.gamespot.com/news/6232117.html
08:14.24Elkanoeven had a hard time understanding Rudi Carell ;)
08:14.35asmodaiHahahah
08:14.39asmodaiDer Rudi!
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08:16.59Elkanoso it's not a 'must buy'
08:17.06asmodaiwth, AMD is working on a 128 bits CPU and Microsoft wants a 128 bit kernel in Windows 8 or 9.
08:17.20asmodaiElkano: I meant have to buy that the DLC ain't free
08:17.38stolen|schoolthey're going to keep that very intelligent naming scheme?
08:17.52asmodaiapparently
08:18.14asmodaiApparently Windows 8 will be named chidori
08:18.15SunTsuElkano: Who would ever even want to understand Rudi Carell?
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08:18.23asmodaiAs if someone has been watching Naruto
08:18.57quiescensis that in case someone wants to put in 316 octillion gb of ram?
08:19.53asmodaihttp://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/4/15/amds-next-gen-bulldozer-is-a-128-bit-crunching-monster.aspx
08:19.59Elkanowell, iirc a 128 bit architecture would allow for 4 parallel 32bit operations like ADD
08:21.13asmodaihttp://developer.amd.com/CPU/SSE5/Pages/default.aspx
08:21.52Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6545 Core/BossPrototype.lua: prevent big bad error, just throw a friendly one
08:22.57quiescensyay
08:23.00quiescensfriendly error
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08:26.13Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r275 / (3 files in 3 directories): Add options for the new heals-incoming status.
08:29.21Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6546 Options/Options.lua:
08:29.25Reposet scroll to 0 when swithcing screens. this fixes the issue where you switch from a scrolled down pane to a smaller pane that caused half of the options to be scrolled offscreen
08:29.52asmodaihttp://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/sillies.php?d=20090914
08:30.47asmodaior http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/sillies.php?d=20090919 XD
08:34.44digmouseany buff mod working on PTR?
08:34.52digmouseSatrina Buff Frames broke
08:49.47Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6547 Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: bugfix KT enabling
08:52.25Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r320 / (3 files in 1 directory): core: change quest rewards to where -1 is none.
08:52.28RepoBC/Wrath: accomidate chnage, add Sons of hodir to non-heroic daily rewards list
08:52.31Repoldb: change method names for wg reset timmer, we're going to have more strange resets later.
08:52.40Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r321 core.lua: core: change quest rewards to where -1 is none.
08:59.05Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r322 wotlk.lua: bugfix
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09:30.46asmodaiSo, on the EU servers we now have 100 Holycow toons.
09:30.58asmodaiLets see how Cataclysm will change that when Taurens get paladins.
09:31.40PneumatusAlliance will get 100 Worgenfreeman's
09:32.39asmodaihahaha
09:33.07asmodaidoes that fit ?
09:33.12Pneumatusdunno
09:33.14asmodaiIn the name input field?
09:33.18Pneumatuswe have a Benafflock though
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09:34.21asmodaiThere's one arena team called WorgenFreeman
09:35.54Wobin^^
09:35.58PneumatusCome Honor Chest is the best arena team name
09:37.16asmodaiPneumatus: I still don't get that joke
09:37.34asmodaiOh wait
09:37.43asmodaicome on her chest?
09:38.07Pneumatusyz
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09:46.30Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2369 Documentation/Release_Notes.txt: - updated patch notes
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10:10.25XinhuanTorhal ping!
10:10.28Xinhuantime to disturb him :)
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10:18.24Xinhuanthere should be a ticket status that closes it as "completed"
10:18.52Xinhuanthe only options now are "fixed" or "verified"
10:19.05Xinhuanor invalid, duplicate, declined
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10:29.31TNSeor "speeding"
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10:57.17orionshockXinhuan:  fixed would technically be the same
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11:00.20digmousewhere can I get scopes on PTR?
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11:08.55asmodaiXinhuan: Heh, light a fire under Torhal's feet ;)
11:10.07Xinhuanlights a fire under Torhal's feet
11:12.15asmodairofl
11:27.51asmodai[Ammo]: Ever ate a 'kapsalon'? :)
11:28.49[Ammo]no don't think so
11:29.07[Ammo]sounds hairy though
11:29.20Repo10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r237 branches (4 files in 3 directories): added preview mode :)
11:29.33asmodai[Ammo]: patat + shaorma + sla + kaas + knoflooksaus :D
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11:30.22Pneumatuslooks like some kind of salad
11:31.05SunTsuSounds like smth. you eat to have lots of space in a crowd
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11:32.06Pneumatuskebab meat, cheese, mayonnaise and salad if im understanding the wikipedia article right
11:32.32asmodaiNot as we serve it here in Rotterdam (where it comes from)
11:32.36asmodaiAll I encountered are:
11:32.52asmodaifries + shoarma meat/kebab + cheese + lettuce + garlic saucce
11:32.54asmodaisauce
11:33.13Pneumatusclose enough
11:33.59PneumatusOok bestaat er een shoarmaschotel 'kapsalon', bestaande uit patat bedekt met shoarma, Goudse kaas, knoflooksaus en salade.
11:33.59[SW]Dodgethere is no option to "destroy" a frame?
11:34.04Pneumatusaccording to wikipeado
11:34.08[SW]Dodges/option/function/
11:34.17Pneumatus[SW]Dodge: nop
11:34.19[SW]Dodgeok
11:34.20Pneumatusreuse them
11:34.21[SW]Dodge:)
11:34.31[SW]Dodgehm
11:34.40asmodaiPneumatus: That's the one
11:35.11Pneumatusknoflooksaus is garlic mayo or something?
11:35.41Pneumatusinfact wikipedia translates it to aioli
11:35.47Pneumatuswhich isn't really mayonnaise-like at all
11:36.17asmodaiknoflook = garlic, saus = sauce
11:36.35Pneumatusfair enough :)
11:36.47SunTsuPneumatus: AFAIK it's more fluid than mayonaise
11:37.02asmodaiknoflook = knoblauch \o/
11:37.08asmodairemembers some stray German
11:37.11PneumatusSunTsu: yeh, it's more oil-based and doesn't have to be made with egg
11:37.39asmodaiI find aoili quite different from garlic sauce though
11:39.21SunTsuasmodai: Don't ever tell smb. from the netherlands that *g*
11:40.09asmodaiSunTsu: Why? :)
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11:41.50SunTsuasmodai: last time I checked german language was noth netherland's favorite ;)
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11:42.28asmodaiSunTsu: Some of my countryfolk are stupid in that regard.
11:42.58asmodaiAs a Dutchie I had a lot of good memories of Germany with holidays, people, food, etc
11:43.04asmodaiThe Shatterspear tribe, and their village, will become accesible in World of Warcraft: Cataclysm. A screenshot of the village released via press kit shows an Ancient nearby.
11:43.22[Ammo]I live next to the german border and handle german support calls for the company
11:43.31[Ammo]so I guess I have to at least understand it and speak it somewhat
11:43.42Stanzillaammo riecht gut
11:43.45Stanzilla:>
11:43.46SunTsuasmodai: I had some real good time in the netherlands too, even during soccer games oranje vs. germany *g*
11:44.25asmodaiStanzilla: hahaha
11:45.01asmodaiSunTsu: Yeah, but some people, even still from my generation, bring up war references at every moment they can. Without any sensible link to base that on. *sigh*
11:45.51SunTsuasmodai: yeah, I know, that's what I was hinting at. but it was merely fun
11:47.02[SW]Dodgecant i use select('#', table) for a table with frames? :( it always returns 1
11:47.11asmodaiSunTsu: Heh, wrong Dutchie to approach for that then I guess, haha. I've been annoyed for many years with the shortsightedness of some of my countrymen
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11:49.06SunTsuasmodai: I most of the time am kidding around with relation to netherlands. I most of the time say that I like the netherlands very much, if only there wasn't the dutch..:>
11:49.41sb|workmorning
11:50.07StanzillaI like that they mark everyone that failed the driving test with those cool orange license plates
11:50.26sb|work:p
11:50.39asmodaiSunTsu: Hahaha
11:50.50asmodaiSunTsu: I'm sure we say the same thing about Germany
11:50.54asmodaiOh no, wait, that was France.
11:51.00asmodai(Sorry Bibi!)
11:51.36SunTsuasmodai: I say that about france, too. And about bavaria :>
11:52.08SunTsu.o0( frankly, the world is a wonderful place - if it wasn't for mankind :> )
11:52.21Stanzillabavaria is awesome
11:52.46asmodaiBavaria, isn't that the weisswurst republic?
11:52.55SunTsu"I am no racist, I hate everybody equally" ;)
11:53.22SunTsuasmodai: yeah, that's the one
11:54.15asmodaiFor some reason I now crave Kaiserschmarren
11:54.39Stanzillathats austrian
11:54.44asmodaiI know.
11:54.48asmodaiWhich is even weirder.
11:54.50Stanzillabut awesome :D
11:54.57SunTsuit is, yeah
11:55.31asmodaiStill love it a lot with jam
11:56.12SunTsuBut I have to visit Venlo again, I'd like to have a kaasoufle
11:56.48asmodaiKaassoufles, omg :)
11:57.31asmodaihahah:
11:57.32asmodaiI wish Blizzard would do like SoE did in SWG.
11:57.36asmodaiTake all the high level creatures, in this case horde and alliance leaders, throw them in an arena and make them aggro eachother, they could do 2 fights, 1 where it's all vs all, and one fight with faction vs faction, then we could get all theese "vs" threads over with.
12:01.00Megalonasmodai: not with jam, with zwetschkenroester!
12:01.06asmodaiMegalon: Whazzat?
12:01.38Megalonthat's what kaiserschmarrn is normally served with ;)
12:01.50asmodaiBut what iiiiiiiiiiiiis it? :)
12:02.02asmodaiLooks jam-like
12:02.12Megalonplum jam
12:02.16Kalrothstrawberry jam
12:06.52asmodaiAha
12:07.53asmodaiStrange, so calculated from the base stats, a DK always has +88 str, +53 agi, +79 sta, +9 int, +22 spi, except for Gnomes (+10 int) and Humans (+26 spi)
12:08.58Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6548 Plugins/Broadcast.lua: bugfix broadcast
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12:17.00MegalonAntiarc: sexycooldowns, it seems like every cd hugs the center of the bar, time marks are not spread out accross it
12:17.24Megalonand the time compression option changes nothing
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12:28.57Repo10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r238 branches (3 files in 2 directories):
12:29.01Repomade option to change button count working without ui reload (after removing buttons you still should reload ui!)
12:34.41asmodaiomg
12:34.52asmodaiSo at work we have this external company do code for us on some project
12:35.26asmodaiThey use a repository system (in which they apparently create some 4 trunks :| )
12:35.42asmodaibut they also don't cut releases or use version information in any way
12:36.30asmodaiI've never seen a less reliable party for code.
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12:38.59SunTsuasmodai: Ever read daily WTF?
12:40.54asmodaiAye
12:41.04asmodaiThis would qualify.
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13:03.08bluspacecow!seen mybutt
13:03.20bluspacecowok
13:03.35bluspacecow!seen Zeksie
13:03.55bluspacecowoh
13:03.59bluspacecow:)
13:04.03bluspacecowhe's out
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13:14.49Funkeh`bluspacecow, licking your butt again?
13:14.57bluspacecowyep
13:15.12Funkeh`How many times must we tell you!
13:16.32Wobin"Don't talk with your mouth full"?
13:19.45bluspacecowinvite you around before doing so ?
13:19.48bluspacecowbring KY jelly ?
13:20.15Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6549 Ulduar/Thorim.lua:
13:20.19RepoUlduar/Thorim: Revert the revert and really fix the issue with impale errors. There's more weirdness going on with both versions of this module I need to figure out.
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13:28.35orionshockanyone remember the name of the quest chain in nagrand for horde that brings thrall in?
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13:34.50Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r135 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix version sync spam
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13:36.47asmodaiorionshock: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10175  ?
13:38.49asmodaionly Thrall NPC for Nagrand I can find is http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19556
13:39.31WobinYou talk to whineyface
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13:39.54WobinAnd I suspect it starts with the orc chain in HFP
13:39.59WobinI've never done it though
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13:46.29Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6550 OnyxiasLair/Onyxia.lua: Weird breath IDs, added them all!
13:48.55Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r276 / (2 files in 2 directories): Merge the two defaultDB in heals-incoming status.
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13:59.25ripdogAntiarc: I just tried SexyCooldown. I love you.
13:59.43steevhow often does Acidmaw sweep?
14:00.01steevevery 30s?
14:00.41Wobinjust whenever it gets dusty
14:01.18asmodairofl
14:01.31asmodaiWobin: Got a few roos loose in yer top paddock mate ;)
14:01.34ripdogAntiarc: But I have a little issue with SexyMap. I have it set to a square border, and initially, the gathermate nodes and blizzard arrows reflected this. However, since a while ago, they act as though in a circle minimap - is there any way to fix this?
14:02.10steevWobin: the knockback he does :-P
14:02.12asmodairipdog: Oh, I wonder if that explains why my routes line just ended quite a bit at the top of the map
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14:03.19ripdogasmodal: Possibly, if it happens in a circle pattern around the whole thing
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14:07.45asmodaiguild names I just spotted: <Get Geared or Wipe Tryin> <IKEA For Your Epics>
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14:15.29steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/LzGKgAvcs5kdXAIQ/details/11/?s=7862&e=8061 our first attempt at heroic beasts 25
14:15.41steevi got my 4th piece of t9 right before we started
14:17.30quiescensgrats
14:20.31Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6551 Ulduar/Thorim.lua:
14:20.34RepoFunkeh, this is NOT how you use the damn bitflags. revert stupid cleanups that are not cleanups
14:20.50Funkeh`oh fuck off
14:21.14[Ammo]you shall not use database keys from a variable
14:21.20quiescenso.o
14:21.43quiescensseething with rage~
14:21.48Funkeh`yeah make the module look like shit
14:21.50Funkeh`thats a better idea
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14:23.37asmodaiseeks a safe corner
14:24.02[Ammo]it is actually a better idea. The idea is that the DB key is persistent and not dependant on the spellIds passed from the event handler
14:24.29Funkeh`It will always be persistant because only 1 spellId is ever being passed to those arguments
14:24.32Funkeh`reuse, recycle
14:25.09Funkeh`s/arguments/functions
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14:26.08steevf'n
14:26.14steevgod i had the test dummies
14:26.24asmodaiCrash Test Dummies? :D
14:26.33quiescensyou had them?
14:26.33steevyes!
14:26.37steevhate even
14:26.39SunTsuMmmmh mmmmh mmmmh mmmmh!
14:26.44asmodaiNice song ^^
14:26.53[Ammo]assumptions. next patch blizzard will add another spell ID to an ability for normal or heroic etc, and someone adds it to the self:Log call -> poof no worky worky. The keys are supposed to be constant.
14:27.03SunTsuhums agreement
14:27.44steevim trying to test out unholy dps on the target dummies and i stopped, so i'm waiting for the diseases to tick off...
14:27.46Funkeh`[Ammo], that's an assumption too, for all you know, next patch they might simply change the spellId, and keep it at 1, poof, no worky and you need to change it several times ion the module, not consitant at all
14:28.27steevi go out of combat, then back in cuz unholy blight ticks... and recount resets and shows me doing a whopping 1 point of damage
14:28.52asmodaisteev: har har
14:28.52quiescenstechnically you aren't getting particularly helpful results because its ticking for 1 anyway
14:29.21Bribriyou're better off simulating unholy dps =[
14:29.32[Ammo]Funkeh`: constant also means easily matched to the bitflag -> less prone for errors. Anyway, I wrote it to be constant, so it'll be used as constant.
14:30.11[Ammo]mess it up in whatever modules you want, in bigwigs core modules it remains a constant
14:30.55Funkeh`"mees it up" funny, i still don't see a valid argument from you
14:30.57WobinSunTsu, Afternoons and Coffeespoons
14:31.25Funkeh`in real world coding situations we use upvalues for frequent references, so we only need to change it once
14:31.30Funkeh`this is the same situation
14:31.55[Ammo]not quite
14:32.03[Ammo]a variable passed to the function is not a defined upvalue
14:32.07[Ammo]it's a variable
14:32.34[Ammo]if you did local mySpell = 1234  and then did self:Message(mySpell, ....) then I'd agree with the upvalue statement
14:32.43Funkeh`[Ammo], you're definiting the variable once when you register the event
14:33.00Funkeh`so that you don't need to repeat it over and over agian int he function, it's passed on
14:33.07Funkeh`for use in bars, etc, you know this
14:33.46[Ammo]no it's not, the actuall spellId caught is passed, not the spellId associated with the bitflag
14:34.30Funkeh`That's not quite the point I was making, I know this
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14:39.31Repo10big-wigs_common-auras: 03mojosdojo * r147 CommonAuras.lua: Add deDE stuff.
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14:45.43steevis there a way to tell recount to not reset
14:45.52steevthis shit is getting really old
14:46.05ripdogclick the no button? afaik it only resets when told to
14:46.21steevits resetting on me on the target dummy in acherus
14:46.32steevunholy blight continues to tick after you get out of combat
14:46.50ripdogcheck your scope settings - the small document icon
14:46.59steevso recount either resets completely, or it resets me to doing 1 damage
14:47.00ripdogmake sure it's set to Overall
14:47.41SunTsusteev: You are prolly looking at "last fight"
14:48.34SunTsusteev: and you really are making only a single point of damage, thet's why those test dummies suck fpr %%or unholy
14:48.40SunTsus/fpr/for/
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14:54.07Ingelamorning
14:55.54steevSunTsu: i realize that
14:56.06steevthe test dummies sucking
14:56.18steevbut not much i can do about that til bliz releases something better
14:57.02quiescensit wouldn't be too hard either
14:57.25steevhttp://ubersekret.com/screenshots/unholy-4p.png
14:57.26quiescensjust give them a million hp and a million hp/s
14:57.44kadrahilrawr
14:57.47quiescensrather than 1 hp but unkillable
14:57.58steevlet em be killed, imo
14:57.59kadrahilwe got 25m heroic anub to like 21% last night a few times >:(
14:58.09kadrahilsooooo much damage
14:58.16steevwe got to the worms like 2 or 3 times...
14:58.19steev*whistles*
14:58.32steevsomeone is slacking but it ain't me
14:58.41kadrahilD:
14:58.49steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/LzGKgAvcs5kdXAIQ/sum/damageDone/?s=7862&e=8061
15:00.03steevthat was also our first attempt ever at heroic 25
15:00.05IngelaHmmm, why does it say that my addon doesn't have any files when it has? http://www.wowace.com/addons/ingelasrapture/
15:00.34steevhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/ingelasrapture/files/
15:00.37steevshowing some to me
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15:00.50Ingelayeh i have 10 releases there
15:01.07IngelaThis project has no files!
15:01.07IngelaPlease check out our Getting started guide for more information on project management.
15:01.17Ingeladoes it say though :S:S:S:S
15:03.10steevi don't see that at all
15:03.16steevtry hitting ctrl+f5
15:03.22Ingelanono it's only when i'm logged in
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15:05.05quiescenshaving files is overrated
15:05.21steevfor reals
15:05.28steevIngela: ah, well, im not logged in cuz im lazy
15:05.33kadrahilhaving releases is overrated
15:05.43steevhaving addons is overrated
15:05.45quiescenspeope will just start complaining about x and y not working the way they expect it to
15:05.49kadrahilthis is true!
15:05.54quiescenss/peope/people/
15:06.02kadrahildefault UI ftw \o/
15:06.08kadrahilexcept bigwigs is cool.
15:06.11steevno
15:06.15steevbigwigs sucks too
15:06.22kadrahil.
15:06.40kadrahilslaps Elmoe_ around a bit with a large trout
15:06.50steevi really hate the alliance t9 helm
15:07.00quiescensin my day we called out people's health on vent and clicked the actual player's character to cast heals on them
15:07.01steevi bet blizz is gonna f up the t10 as well
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15:07.20kadrahili turned helm showing off after naxx
15:07.43steevi turned it off after swapping out one that wasn't the starter hood
15:07.56steevimo, if they are gonna redraw/reuse - use the starter gear
15:08.02steevthe green ones
15:08.06steevthat stuff looked badass
15:08.34IngelaAntiarc, woaah something happened
15:08.38steevor, give us the option of buying the stats - but keeping the gear
15:09.32quiescensyou will look like every other member of your class and you will like it!
15:09.44steevquiescens: no!
15:10.08steevi look like an f'n paladin, with a damn lightbulb on my helm
15:10.51IngelaAntiarc: Icons doesn't move at all, i have number 10 in the middle, no number elsewhere. If i increase max time it's going to max 130 and then nothing else
15:11.49steevso, what is so special about the armored blue wind rider, that it costs 1900g
15:11.55quiescensits blue
15:12.02quiescensand has armor
15:12.36steevi have a blue one without armor and it cost me 25g ;-P
15:13.02quiescensarmor is expensive these days
15:13.15steevtrue that
15:13.37steevsome gauntlets on the ah on nesingwary, they want 7k g for them
15:13.39steevi'm like f that
15:13.52steevhmm
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15:14.24Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r277 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix Ticket-40
15:14.37steevthink ill just save up for the dk mount
15:14.48steevi've been slow flying this long, i can continue to wait a bit more
15:15.16SunTsuHow can anym%body stand slow flight?
15:15.52quiescenshow did you put m% in there
15:15.53quiescenslol
15:16.10steevhe's been doing that for a bit
15:16.17steevsomething tells me his console settings are messed up
15:16.37steev09:48 < SunTsu> steev: and you really are making only a single point of damage,  thet's why those test dummies suck fpr %%or unholy
15:17.15quiescenso.O
15:17.19SunTsuis fat fingering...
15:17.40SunTsuI need new fingers, the old ones don't always hit what I want
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15:18.45steevhow do you fat finger the % sign
15:19.15quiescensvery carefully
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15:19.39steevheh
15:19.57SunTsusteev: I don't know where that came from. I didn't see it here
15:20.20quiescenshence the implication that something else is wrong
15:20.29kadrahilno u
15:20.34quiescens):
15:23.03SunTsuquiescens: Yeah, something is wrong here, that's right. My local X.org only refreshes when I move the mouse :>
15:23.23quiescensfun
15:23.24steever
15:23.46quiescensI'm trying to work out why resume/thaw intermittently freezes
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15:40.36steevis there a site with pictures of the different mounts?
15:41.04ripdogwowhead? i guess wowwiki would too
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15:57.31Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * 1.3-release-1-g933a537 /: [forced -1 +1] PALADIN: Coefficient changed to Holy Light: 2.5 / 3.5 * 1.25 and Flash of Light: 1.5 / 3.5 * 1.25, changed Divinity and Healing Light to be multiplicative (Thanks cremor)
16:00.34steevripdog: was more thinking like, warcraftmounts.com or something (dunno if that exists) - where it just pictures rather than having to look up each one individually and hope someone has uploaded a screenshot
16:01.08ripdogsteev: ah, i'm afraid I can't help, then
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16:21.25Repo10ingelasrapture: 03ingela * r11 core.lua:
16:21.28RepoAdded SharedMedia fonts and font scale. Now possible to change background color as well.
16:25.39MegalonIngela
16:25.46Ingelayes?
16:25.48Megalonfound out what it is with sexycooldown
16:25.54Megalonyou have to set the bar orientation
16:26.07Megalonbecause it is not set as default
16:26.11Ingelaah!
16:26.32Ingelabut now eveyrthing is clamped to the right
16:26.33Ingelahmm
16:32.42winkillerdo you have to set the bar orientation to "straight" in sexycooldown? :P
16:33.22MecHow would you get a player's threat on a mob if they're not in your group?
16:45.34steevyou wouldn't
16:45.42sb|workAntiarc: your cooldowns is broken! :p
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17:14.59Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3-6-g4fe10ea / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fix the default orientation\
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17:18.35Repo10automagical-changeonator: 03Antiarc 07master * v1.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Equipment manager compat. Thanks ergh99
17:18.41Repo10automagical-changeonator: 03Antiarc 04v1.1 * f9d2034 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.1
17:20.05NeoTronAntiarc always has such nice names
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17:25.05KriLL3"Interface action failed because of an AddOn" not very useful message, what failed, and what addon caused it?
17:25.20rubikyou ask too much of blizzard
17:25.24AntiarcYou need to turn on taintlogging to find out
17:25.37KriLL3Antiarc: kk, rubik: heh
17:26.08KriLL3a bit like MS, "can't connect to ****, contact your network administrator." THAT'S ME YOU FUSCKERS!!!
17:26.25AntiarcYou're obviously not qualified then. :crossarms:
17:28.52KriLL3just find it funny that they assume the user is a peon, even if they're the administrator in one of their server versions
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17:52.40Repo10ace3: 03mikk * r860 AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-EditBox.lua: Ticket 21: Ability to accept links for EditBox Widget
17:52.43RepoImplemented the given patch pretty much as-is, except made it upgradeable.
17:53.29nevcairielas is without AceHook i hope :P
17:54.08nevcairielMikk: go do it for multi-line editbox too :P
17:54.43nevcairielmmm i still need soem visual diff viewer for svn
17:55.28nevcairielKaelten: wtb online repo viewing!
17:56.15BrunersKaelten: wtb online repo viewing!
17:57.19nevcairielIt doesn't even have to integrate into the website for all i care
17:57.28nevcairieljust gitweb and whatever is popular for svn
17:57.35BelazorWTB online porn viewing
17:57.47nevcairielBelazor: wts youporn
17:57.51BelazorXD
17:57.54Belazoror tube8
17:57.57Belazorredtube
17:58.00Belazoretc
17:58.01BelazorXD
17:59.54Ingelado i smell someone drunk and horny
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18:00.08Belazordrunk no
18:00.09BelazorXD
18:00.31Xtek<3
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18:02.14XtekFail.
18:02.48asmodaiHehehe
18:02.52asmodaihands Belazor pornhub.com
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18:04.39Fiskerwas funny btw
18:04.41Funkeh`wtf channel did i join
18:04.49Fiskersaw someone paste in a redtube link in trade yesterday
18:04.54Fiskerhe's gonna be so banned
18:05.09Xtek</3?
18:05.25NeoTronall these sites are SFW right?
18:05.36NeoTronheh
18:06.03XtekSFW?
18:06.14Xtek.0oh
18:06.20Xteknono
18:06.20ckknightXtek's a noob
18:06.27XtekYou don't know me!
18:06.28nevcairielNeoTron: if you don't have flash installed, probably =P
18:13.39NeoTronsomehow I expect there to be additional non-flash elements too
18:13.45NeoTronhttp://www.cracked.com/blog/using-windows-7-may-lead-to-murder/ is however sfw
18:14.23BrunersFisker: i didnt know WoW could open links
18:15.07nevcairielhaha NeoTron
18:16.55Fiskeri didn't say it could Bruners
18:19.51BrunersFisker: then how did he paste a redtube link in trade chat?
18:20.21NeoTronman addons parses links in chat, such as chatter
18:20.25NeoTronand stuff
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18:20.42I440rdoes anyone here have an account on hydraxis?
18:20.45BrunersNeoTron: omg, im trolling Fisker here
18:22.14NeoTronfailtroll
18:22.30NeoTronbut i c wut u did thar
18:23.58I440ri need someone on hydraxis to pass a message for me to my guild. my account is currently suspended because i cant afford to keep it active but my guild just put a password on their vent server so i cant even get in there and listen to them stealing all my loots!
18:24.50NeoTronok...
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18:26.43nevcairieldon't you guys have forums or something?
18:27.23I440rnope
18:27.24I440r:/
18:27.30I440rno web site for the guild yet lol
18:27.37I440rim co-gm too :/
18:27.43asmodaiThe blizzard realm forum perhaps?
18:27.49nevcairielcreate a trial account :p
18:27.58nevcairielcan you still whisper people as trial?
18:28.10Xtekckknight: is a serious scrub, don't use any of his addons.
18:28.10asmodaiNot sure.
18:28.10I440rnobody in the guild would SEE my postings lol
18:28.16asmodaiBut you can still use the forum even if your account is suspended.
18:28.22nevcairielwho reads realm forums =P
18:28.55Shefkiasmodai: Not anymore.  Hell it locks me out of the forums whenever it processes the payment.
18:28.56I440rnobody here on hydraxis? doh!
18:29.03ShefkiEven though I can still get on the game.
18:29.06XtekShattered Hand... anyone?
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18:32.58I440rso could anyone create a temp toon to pass the msg for me? :)
18:32.59rubikis there some temporary buff or something weird on Auriaya that would cause my brother (holy pally) to have 72.93% crit rate on his Holy Light?
18:33.17I440rto either smooches (gm) or disscord (co-gm in my absense)
18:33.45stolenlegacyeu or us?
18:33.50I440rus hydraxis
18:33.58stolenlegacysorry, my accounts are all eu
18:34.01nevcairielweee, dr. beckett in supernatural .. i like seeing known faces :p
18:34.03I440rmy toon is magicster and i need them to clear the pass on vent so i can get in
18:34.34Fiskernaw nevcairiel
18:34.41Fiskerit's funny actually
18:34.46Fiskerhe was in sg-1 before atlantis
18:34.47Fisker:o
18:34.53nevcairielbriefly
18:34.56Fiskeryeah
18:35.05Fiskerwas rewatching all 10 seasons and saw him in season 1
18:35.24nevcairielyeah i recently rewatched it too .. well, last year or so
18:39.09Ingela^where is adamar!?!?!?
18:39.13Ingela^i need to complain!
18:39.55Antiarcrubik: Did he cast like 6 of them and get lucky?
18:39.59Antiarc(no, no temp buff)
18:40.37rubiki'm sure he was spamming holy light, yeah
18:40.46rubiki'll try to look at the log
18:42.41FiskerAntiarc's Antiarc in his Antiarc
18:43.24MecIs there an aceoption type that is like a text field but with a dropdown for possible presets?
18:46.16nevcairiela combobox? no, thats not supported
18:46.21AntiarcMec: "select"
18:46.35nevcairielI was assuming he wanted to allow free-form as well as the pre-defined
18:46.40Mecyes
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19:09.47asmodaiAntiarc: btw, can you fix sexymap's load profile? :P
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19:11.30asmodaiYou'd think someone would get the hint after declining two duel invites.
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19:22.34sb|workCaleb|: ping
19:24.17Caleb|pont?
19:24.19Caleb|g
19:24.31NeoTronpong fail
19:24.37Caleb|:S
19:25.24sb|workare you going to implement some shield switch fail to EF (twins)?
19:25.40Fiskerslaps sb|work around a bit with a large trout
19:25.41Fiskerslaps Caleb| around a bit with a large trout
19:25.42Fiskerslaps NeoTron around a bit with a large trout
19:25.42sb|workaka show people who didnt dps the shield
19:26.07AntiarcAnyone else having problems pushing via git?
19:26.12AntiarcI'm trying to push and it's just hanging
19:26.17Pneumatushow would you work out who's supposed to have swiched, and how much damage they should be doing?
19:26.22Fiskergreat
19:26.27Fiskeryou convinced it to commit suicide Antiarc
19:26.33Pneumatusseeing as everyone uses different tactics, etc
19:26.40AntiarcJust check raid targets every X seconds while the shield is casting
19:27.20Caleb|probably not sb|work
19:27.29AntiarcAnyone on a hostile target for >X% that isn't the one casting gets a fail, maybe code in an exception for tanks
19:27.42Pneumatusand for people that cleave?
19:27.51Pneumatuslike rogues and warriors that can full cleave
19:28.17Caleb|you do shit damage if you dps wrong one
19:28.22AntiarcNobody can full cleave
19:28.29Pneumatusblade flurry is full cleave
19:28.31AntiarcRogue poisons don't blade flurry, for example
19:28.35Fiskernaw Caleb|
19:28.39AntiarcAnd poisons are ~20% of your damage
19:28.45AntiarcAs combat
19:28.54Pneumatusit depends on your tactics, anyway
19:28.57sb|workCaleb|: right, but i need to see which dumbasses dont switch to shield target (if we fail to destroy shield)
19:28.58Pneumatusif you switch essence to dps, etc etc
19:29.10AntiarcYou don't switch essence to DPS shields
19:29.13sb|worki know
19:29.15Pneumatuswe do.
19:29.18AntiarcWhy?
19:29.24Pneumatusbecause it's more effective
19:29.27AntiarcIt doesn't affect the damage taken by the shield
19:29.29sb|workAntiarc: but you have to switch targets :/
19:29.32sb|workand some people fail there
19:29.42AntiarcShields don't take modified damage based on your essence
19:30.15Pneumatusthey take modified damage once the shield drops off though
19:30.24Fiskerlol
19:30.48AntiarcSo you waste time while the shield is casting to switch essence so that you don't have to switch back after the shield drops?
19:30.56AntiarcThat seems a little backwards, since the shield is the DPS race
19:31.06Fiskeryou still have to switch back
19:31.14Pneumatuswe tank them on the white portal
19:31.19Pneumatuswith the raid black
19:31.21Pneumatusso
19:31.38Pneumatusour last valks kill was 5:04 or something
19:31.43AntiarcIf you're tanking both of them in one spot, it should be a complete non-issue o.0
19:31.56Antiarc10, 25, 25 heroic?
19:32.00Pneumatus25 heroic
19:32.09sb|workAntiarc: are you sure about that shield thingie? (no modified damage)
19:32.22sb|worki think damage with wrong essence is totally fucked
19:32.23Antiarcsb|work: Pretty sure, EJ folks checked it out pretty thoroughly
19:32.42AntiarcPneumatus: Heh, guess it works for you then. Seems suboptimal, though
19:32.45Pneumatusand i'm pretty sure we tried not switching essence and couldnt break the shields
19:32.55AntiarcThough if your DPS is good enough to make the shields even with the extra lag in switching essence, guess that works
19:33.09asmodaiGAH
19:33.19Pneumatusthe fight generally isn't a dps race at all
19:33.23Pneumatusits only the shield burns that are
19:33.24AntiarcJust the shields
19:33.31Pneumatusif you break the shields you win
19:33.39AntiarcIf your soakers don't fail. :V
19:33.53Pneumatusseconds kill this week and we oneshot it
19:33.59asmodaitroll rogue challenges to a duel, fine. So duel, I self-heal (being shaman), and in the end win. Then he moans and bitches about "lamo self heals". I mean, it's part of the class, I don't complain about stealth or what not. *sigh*
19:34.05Fiskerso Antiarc
19:34.11Fiskeryou cool enough for google wave?
19:34.16AntiarcFisker: I am not, apparently
19:34.20Fisker:/
19:34.26Antiarcargh
19:34.31AntiarcNot being able to push to git is really annoying me
19:34.40AntiarcKaelten: ping
19:35.12Pneumatuswe did lose a few people near the end, but top 10 people were over 9k dps, top two were about 10.5k
19:35.54asmodaiGoogle Wave is a bit too hyped. It's nice, but not the end all solution they make it appear.
19:36.23pompyAntiarc: for svn too... "Status         Can't connect to service, please try again later."
19:36.30Pneumatusand rogue poisons made like 15% total damage for combat rogues
19:36.35Fiskerwww.playboy.com/girls/celebrities/features/marge-simpson/marge-simpson.html <-this is fucked up
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19:37.17nevcairielAntiarc: if not being able to push is annoying you, you're doing it wrong =p
19:37.23Fiskernevcairielmen
19:37.32Antiarcnevcairiel: Heh, why's that?
19:37.35asmodaiPneumatus: But what I don't get is, why duel if, obviously, you cannot stand losing.
19:37.40Fiskeri
19:37.41Fiskerwant
19:37.42FiskerMOAR DISK
19:37.48asmodaiWe want less Fisker.
19:37.49asmodai:P
19:37.57nevcairielAntiarc: the whole point of a dvcs is that you can continue working without a central tracking repository =p
19:37.57Fiskerno
19:38.03Fiskermoo: hdd: C:\ 23.4GB/74.53GB D:\ 1.36TB/1.82TB E:\ 1.41TB/1.82TB
19:38.09Fiskeri must construct additional HDD
19:38.12Antiarcnevcairiel: I can keep working, sure, but I want to push a tag for people.
19:38.19steevmoooooooo
19:38.25AntiarcPneumatus:  Poisons are consistently about 20% of my damage, and I'm an ArP soft-capped combat rogue
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19:38.33AntiarcAt least according to the last couple of parses
19:38.36nevcairielckknight: fix teh repos
19:38.51Fiskerfix moar disk
19:43.27Antiarcckknight: wtb git not being dead
19:43.41yoshimoi think svn is down also
19:43.45pompyhttp://www.wowace.com/packager/
19:44.01pompytakes a year to load
19:45.29ckknight@ping
19:48.44Fiskeri'm here ckknight
19:49.31asmodaipackets Fisker
19:49.51pompyFisker: noone cares
19:50.54Fiskeryou do pompy
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19:53.29sb|workAntiarc: hmm
19:53.34sb|worki think your theory is partly true
19:53.43sb|worktrue for melee, not true for casters
19:54.05sb|workmage 23k arcane blast on shield... thats no normal damage (without empowered)
19:55.06AntiarcAnd he didn't have empowered?
19:55.43AntiarcIt should be easy enough to parse out of a log, really
19:56.54sb|workhm yea
19:58.20AntiarcHeck, I'll bet I can pull it out of a WoL parse
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20:15.40yoshimoalo0exdefend spams in the comments on curse
20:15.52Ingela^Fisker, where are you from
20:16.14Xtekyoshimo: hook me up with al ink so I can ban them
20:16.14Xtek, please
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20:16.28yoshimohttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/nvgearscore.aspx
20:16.54yoshimothere should be a report.button
20:17.16Xtek0IP banned.
20:17.19XtekIP*
20:17.35XtekComment should be gone now.
20:18.22XtekUhh, or cache invalidation can fail... that too.
20:19.14XtekThere, gone. :)
20:19.54yoshimowhat is this strange website? phishing?
20:20.36Ingela^no it's a mining addon
20:20.39Ingela^hheheehehehehehe
20:20.57pompyyeah so far they have a mining and fishing addon
20:21.11XtekIt's been happening for a while now.  I'm not a dev on Curse.com just other shit... wish I could fix it.
20:21.18XtekSorry :(
20:21.27AntiarcWTB repo being fixed :(
20:21.59yoshimoso is it a paid gathermate or a bot, or wtf do they want to give you. im not sure if i understand them
20:22.16XtekAntiarc: I ran out of food to feed it, sorry.
20:22.55Ingela^that's mean
20:24.23yoshimoxtek, so it would help to file a ticket to get a reportspamhere-button?
20:24.52XtekThis is how it works.
20:25.13yoshimowhich project?
20:25.14XtekIf you report someone it makes a thread in a forum only Mods/Oranges can see, if we ban them if removes (hides) all posts/comments by that person.
20:25.36XtekSo only 1 report is needed.
20:28.59Bribriwhat if the spammers spam the report button to flood the restricted forum?
20:29.42Xtekyou just divided by 0
20:29.59Bribrithe war that can never be won =x
20:36.50AntiarcIs there a mod that'll collapse stacks in the guild bank?
20:37.23NeoTronis there a good guild bank mod? I have lots of bank alts with guild bank but I hate using the thing
20:37.33AntiarcI wrote a mod to search the gbank
20:37.38AntiarcBut I need one to collapse/sort items
20:37.40yoshimodoes krestack do it? it restacks your personal bags
20:37.56Antiarc"Simple, low profile addon for quickly and automatically compressing your bag, bank, or guild vault inventory item stacks"
20:37.57AntiarcGuess so!
20:39.22Zeksiesvn dead?
20:39.31Antiarcyes
20:39.33Zeksiek
20:39.33Antiarcgit too
20:40.14XtekBlame Spaghetti cat.
20:41.38GagorianDoes lilsparky use IRC?
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20:42.27nevcairielslap ckknight until he responds and fixes it!
20:43.02Antiarcckknight: fix repo plz
20:44.29ckknighthowdy.
20:44.33Xtekhe's feeding spaghetti cat
20:45.35Antiarcckknight: git/svn aren't responding
20:45.52AntiarcAlso, wtfs, 9 abyssal shatters and 19 GCEs. No dust.
20:46.31MegalonAntiarc: bankstack + /sort guild1 ?
20:46.41AntiarcIf that works, yay
20:47.08NeoTronsome people love to manually sort things. I hate it
20:49.20Megalonyes it does, also didn't know about it in the beginning because 'sort bank' shortcut does not work when guildbank is open
20:49.25Megalonbut the slashcommand works
20:54.17Antiarchttp://www.flickr.com/photos/shaireproductions/3991253516/
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21:04.04Funkeh`is svn down for anyone else
21:04.31pompyFunkeh`: yeah its all down
21:04.36NivFreakwait, guild bank sorting addon?
21:05.12pompyNivFreak: Genie sorts the gbank
21:08.57NivFreaknice
21:09.38fewynbankstack sorts the gbank too
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21:27.01Mecis the repo hosed?
21:27.11AntiarcStill, yes
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21:31.12yoshimolast commit was 2h ago, i broke it ;)
21:31.32AntiarcI have a tag to push >:|
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21:34.40GagorianAnyone used Ace3 DrDamage yet?
21:35.21Ingela^yes
21:35.25GagorianAs I have received no complaints yet I take it that it's working :D
21:36.05Ingela^is it the newest beta release that you can download from curse Gagorian ?
21:36.08Ingela^if so yes then i have
21:36.12Ingela^and it's working perfectly fine for me :)
21:37.59MegalonAntiarc: when I hit readiness on my hunter sexycooldown does not noticed that the cooldowns are reset
21:38.25AntiarcMegalon: Bah, I'm gonna have to go spec prep and figure out what's up then
21:38.36Ingela^oh yeh Antiarc rapture is working
21:38.56Antiarcholy balls :O
21:38.57Antiarchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgo0CDL6bd0&feature=player_embedded#t=35
21:38.59GagorianIngela^: Yeah, newest beta
21:39.11Ingela^yes it's working then for me =)
21:39.52Megalonrapid fire stayed on the bar
21:39.59Megalonand even after I used it the second time
21:40.08Megalonit did not update to the new value
21:40.10Ingela^Antiarc, is she stuck or something?
21:40.18Antiarcstuck?
21:40.27Ingela^yeh why is she screaming like that
21:40.30AntiarcMegalon: The events must not be firing properly. This'll be fun :V
21:42.05GagorianAh, good thing as I never playtested it :p
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21:45.16GagorianGrr, repo still down and I'd need to commit
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21:45.47Ingela^repo is gonna crash when it comes alive because everyone wanna do new commits :D
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21:45.55AntiarcIt's been down for a number of hours now :/
21:45.59BalreignGagorian, it works for me but I need to check if datas are correct.
21:46.58Balreign(I mean bitwin the value of the estimated dmgs and the real ones)
21:47.02MegalonAntiarc: http://paste.wowace.com/1282/ bugsack was quite full of those 2
21:47.44GagorianBalreign: That shouldn't have changed, so if it was correct before should be now
21:47.50GagorianBut always good to check :p
21:48.23AntiarcMegalon: That should be fixed in the latest
21:48.52Megalonoh
21:48.57BalreignI had few differences before, but it was close
21:49.21Megalonupdated before logging in a view hours ago, but i see, 5.3.6 :o
21:49.55AntiarcAlpha or release?
21:50.07GagorianBalreign: You can report even small differences as long as I get precise information
21:50.10GagorianThe goal is spot on accuracy
21:51.21GagorianIf nobody tells me something is wrong, I can't improve it
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21:51.46BalreignI'll take a closer look the next days. But few difference can also came from the mobs armors so...
21:52.28GagorianYeah, for physical attacks spot on accuracy can't be expected
21:52.44GagorianBut for spells it's possible
21:55.12BalreignI'll focus en that the next days. I'm playing both an elemental shaman and a balance druid. I'll tell you what.
21:57.01GagorianUsually the issue is that talents stack in another way than expected, so if you have double talent specs etc, it's possible to track down what talent causes the problem
21:57.38GagorianOr possibly base coefficient inaccuracy, so if it's still wrong with no talents, that's the likely culprit
21:59.33GagorianOf course both shaman and druid have relics complicating matters, as the way they're calculated usually makes no sense :P
21:59.33BalreignI've only one spec per toon, but I'll try.
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22:20.47AntiarcWhy is repo still down :(
22:22.59AeyanI dunno.
22:23.41XtekIt's on vacation.
22:25.33Balreignhuhu
22:25.40asmodaiAntiarc: Why, with sexycooldown, do the numbers on the bar shift closer together when you expand the bar vertically? Shouldn't they just stay in the exact same spot?
22:26.04Antiarcasmodai: Huh, do they? It's a bug if so.
22:26.04[Ammo]asmodai: the space time continuum doesn't allow for them to be closer
22:26.21asmodaiAntiarc: Yea, and further apart when making the vertical size smaller
22:26.29AntiarcWhat bar orientation?
22:26.44AntiarcOh, I see why
22:26.46asmodaiAntiarc: default
22:27.19AntiarcIt's because I set the usable bar length to (length - height), so that icons end up not quite overlapping the far edge
22:28.02AntiarcI could cut that by half, I suppose
22:28.19Antiarc(It also helps with the number positioning
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22:38.00harlmy game's like having hickups or something today every time i'm in an instance and people are in-combat..
22:40.47GagorianChecked CPU profiling on addons?
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23:32.13AntiarcRepo's still gone. :/
23:34.55Ingela^RIP Repo =(
23:39.47quiescens):
23:41.09harlwhich add-on should i use for cpu profiling?
23:41.19AntiarcAddonProfiler is good
23:42.05harlhow do i make addonprofiler show cpu times?
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23:44.22harli've already had addonprofiler, but letting it "profile" (for 120 seconds) ain't having it show any additional information afterwards
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23:48.23ShadowedYou probably should enable CPU profiling then?
23:48.43taledenalso remember that after turning it on, you have to reloadui for it to take effect
23:51.43harlthanks. didn't know i had to reload.
23:52.55Shadowed"Enables CPU profiling, you will need to do a /console reloadui for this to be enabled."
23:52.59Shadowedtooltips = win
23:57.24Ingela^anyone worked with candybars?
23:58.22Ingela^like, everytime it's  numbers like 10, 9, 8 and so on the label goes 1px to the left everytime? why? O.o
23:58.57Ingela^it's np when it's 9,8 or 9,5 but when it comes to 9 bam label goes 1px left
23:59.34AntiarcAnchoring and unequal number glyph widths?
23:59.45AntiarcTry a fixed-width font and see if that fixes it

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