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00:01.04 | Ingela | Adamar-Curse, i'd like a notifier like "Addon Questhelper just updated" or something for automated updates |
00:01.12 | Repo | 10internal-cooldowns: 03Antiarc 07master * 32d1beb / (7 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fix a typo in the sink module |
00:01.18 | Repo | 10libinternalcooldowns-1-0: 03Antiarc * r14 LibInternalCooldowns-1.0/Data.lua: Fix Rapture. |
00:01.34 | Antiarc | Ingela: Verified that Rapture works now :) |
00:01.40 | Ingela | Antiarc, imba |
00:01.44 | Ingela | i'll try it out |
00:03.04 | Ingela | the x and y omg that's soooo good |
00:03.10 | Ingela | can place it exactly where i want it now |
00:04.20 | Antiarc | http://i34.tinypic.com/25kmtjk.jpg |
00:05.51 | Ingela | taps his foot as you wait for libinternalcooldowns-1-0 to be updated on my curse client. |
00:05.58 | Ingela | as "yoU" wait |
00:05.59 | Ingela | ggggggggg |
00:05.59 | Antiarc | It'd still be alpha |
00:06.04 | Antiarc | Set the install type to alpha |
00:06.07 | Ingela | yeh i ahve |
00:06.10 | Antiarc | kk |
00:06.12 | Ingela | it just takes some time |
00:06.25 | Ingela | now! |
00:06.25 | Ingela | :D |
00:06.48 | Ingela | what was the problem anyways? |
00:06.49 | Antiarc | Wrong spell ID. :P |
00:06.57 | Ingela | :) |
00:07.08 | Antiarc | Just pulled the right one out of last night's log |
00:09.54 | Ingela | oh yeh btw, why does my ui like give up after i reloaded ui 20 times or something... eavesdrop doesn't log anything, sct not working, recount not getting any data |
00:09.59 | Ingela | have to restart the game =( |
00:10.57 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_rangefader2/. PitBull4_RangeFader2. mitch0 (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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00:15.09 | NeoTron | which means for some reason your combat log events stopped working |
00:15.33 | Ingela | yeap |
00:16.28 | NeoTron | sucks to be you |
00:17.03 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: you're back? awsum. there's hope for MagicDKP, yet! ^^ |
00:17.38 | NeoTron | I am |
00:17.42 | NeoTron | I fail at quitting |
00:18.04 | NeoTron | but... I don't plan to manage DKP any time soon so not sure how much motivation I have to work on MagicDKP :P |
00:18.22 | NeoTron | any specific issue(s) you have? |
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00:27.17 | Repo | 10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 1.0.0-3-gf806eb1 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Only use epic gems in slots when they score better than blue gems. |
00:27.27 | Yewbacca | I have an idea, it's pretty wild though... Imagine a window with two boxes, you put a piece of armor in each box. It scans their current gems, and auto-fills anything that it found. It then lets you use dropdown lists to swap gems for each socket (ordered by your own stat-weights). Every time you change a gem slot in the dropdown, the itemLink is rewritten to reflect this new gem |
00:27.39 | Yewbacca | so that you can hover over the item icon and watch the changes. But more importantly: |
00:27.54 | Yewbacca | It would also print all "stat differences" between both items, with Gems and enchants applied. |
00:28.03 | Yewbacca | It's very doable with all the APIs currently in the game. |
00:29.00 | Yewbacca | What this lets you do is compare your armor with anything else in the game, filled with the gems and enchants you want, and see "Stamina +50, Strength -10" etc, a summary. |
00:30.21 | Yewbacca | The real enabling factor was the new 3.2 command that receives an itemLink (even ones you generate yourself as a string with gems etc filled in), and returns an array with all the stats for that item. |
00:32.00 | Yewbacca | And to provide really meaningful information about differences (stuff like defense rating -> dodge/parry conversion) I'll use the excellent LibStatLogic by the RatingBuster author... hmm.. |
00:32.02 | NeoTron | get going! |
00:32.23 | Yewbacca | Yeah I'm currently planning :D |
00:32.55 | Megalon | Antiarc: sexycooldowns, if you play around with "max duration" |
00:33.09 | Megalon | it adds cooldowns if the new value is > this cooldown |
00:33.17 | Yewbacca | Whitetooth |
00:33.26 | Megalon | but it does not remove cooldowns running from the bar is cooldown > new value |
00:33.40 | Megalon | s/ is/ if/ |
00:34.14 | Antiarc | Ah, hm |
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00:34.45 | Yewbacca | Whitetooth, I think this would be something that should be integrated with RatingBuster, like a /rb planner command to open the window. Why do I think that? Well, because RatingBuster already has a perfect setup for each class to decide what stats they want to see compared in REGULAR tooltips. If I start to code this, are you interested in merging it as a feature? |
00:35.14 | NeoTron | RatingBuster_Planner - go |
00:35.21 | NeoTron | or something |
00:35.22 | Yewbacca | Yeah exactly |
00:35.32 | NeoTron | but it doesn't really need to integrate with RB does it? |
00:35.45 | NeoTron | and I'm sure I saw something like this, just without the gem thing |
00:36.10 | Repo | 10considerater: 03catamorfizm 041.1.0 * b587269 /: [new tag] tagging 1.1.0 |
00:36.18 | Yewbacca | It could be standalone but then users would need to do a lot of work setting up both addons. RatingBuster has an amazing interface for each class to decide what stats they wanna compare, and all those settings are available in its database for its users. |
00:36.32 | Yewbacca | And most people that want such a planner would be interested in comparison tooltips as a 1st step before even opening a planner |
00:36.34 | Yewbacca | So it's logical |
00:37.14 | Yewbacca | What I'm gonna do is run a bunch of tests to see how doable this is. |
00:37.20 | Ingela | while you're at it add a whislist too :) |
00:37.25 | NeoTron | I assume you can still rely on RB :P |
00:37.45 | Yewbacca | Ingela: Download AtlasLoot, it's got just about all loot in the game and it has a wishlist (altclick an item in it and off you go :D) |
00:37.46 | Megalon | so you basically want wowequip |
00:37.54 | Megalon | which just one items instead of the whole equipment |
00:37.57 | Yewbacca | I've never seen wowequip |
00:38.05 | Ingela | :O |
00:38.10 | Ingela | didn't know atlasloot had that |
00:38.19 | Yewbacca | It does now, very recently :) |
00:38.29 | Yewbacca | You have to press Options and create at least 1 wishlist first |
00:38.37 | Yewbacca | Then you just alt click i tems and select what wishlist to send it to |
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00:38.47 | Yewbacca | I use it extensively :D |
00:39.05 | NeoTron | http://media.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/14902/15013/WoWEquipBeta.png |
00:39.40 | Yewbacca | Hmm |
00:39.47 | Yewbacca | Hmmmmm |
00:40.25 | Yewbacca | Interesting that there was something like this, except it's insanely useless since you need to make a set and compare against your current set :D |
00:40.46 | Yewbacca | I've never thought "hey I wonder what my stats would be if I had full t9.5" |
00:40.59 | Yewbacca | But I have wondered "I wonder what a fully gemmed and enchanted t9.5 head would do for me" |
00:43.05 | Yewbacca | Hmm, ok I've been thinking about it and I don't think WoWEquip is coded in such a way that a 1on1 item comparison is doable, and it's easy enough that I don't need to look at any code (generate itemLink as string, with gems in it, then use the 3.2 tooltip scanner api to get its info). |
00:43.50 | Yewbacca | I'm gonna go ahead and test the idea and see what happens. |
00:44.52 | Yewbacca | Pre-3.2 it'd be hard, you'd have to manually have a list of each gem's stat and sum them together with itemstats retrieved with the ugly old tooltip line scanning, which is why I never dared try it before now. |
00:45.02 | Yewbacca | So off to try |
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00:52.20 | NeoTron | ok so Death knight is hard to spell. This dude spells is, consistently, as Deaf knight |
00:53.04 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: specifically? hm. some of what is documented in open tickets, plus, some members of my guild say the Client addon has trouble saving its settings (like Autopass on unusable etc) |
00:53.52 | Repo | 10transcriptor: 03Rabbit * r115 Transcriptor.lua: Fix error after clearing all logs. |
00:54.00 | Gnarfoz | Yewbacca: what you described sounds a lot like Xinhuan's WowEquip addon. ;) |
00:54.17 | Gnarfoz | meh, scrollback |
00:54.28 | Yewbacca | Hehe yeah you noticed :D |
00:54.42 | Yewbacca | I commented on that addon above, while it seems very well coded I don't see the point. |
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00:55.51 | NeoTron | they should add the spider things from Ulduar as an engineer and/or gnome mount |
00:55.52 | Gnarfoz | since you can use a copy of your current gear as a template, what you want to do is very much doable |
00:56.10 | Gnarfoz | you would copy your gear and then just change the one item you want to change |
00:56.11 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: if it doesn't save settings. likely their savings don't save |
00:56.13 | Gnarfoz | and see what it does for you |
00:56.27 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: I seriously doubt that's my fault unless thye have errors during the loading |
00:56.28 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: wut? yeah, something about the SV mechanism would be broken, I guess? |
00:56.36 | Yewbacca | Gnarfoz: Oh, that's more like it. I thought you'd have to constantly setup your current gear and change 1 piece |
00:56.52 | Gnarfoz | well, the one guy who is knowledgeable enough about it said he just hardcoded the stuff that didn't stick for him to 'false' in the lua |
00:56.52 | Yewbacca | Does it support enchants too? |
00:56.54 | NeoTron | I've had cases where saves didn't happen ebcause the save file wasn't writable |
00:56.59 | Gnarfoz | Yewbacca: yeah |
00:57.03 | Gnarfoz | Yewbacca: and gems, too |
00:57.10 | Gnarfoz | not sure if it needs any updating for 3.x though |
00:57.12 | NeoTron | people claim Magic Runes doesn't load save variables and I don't see it |
00:57.24 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: huh? hm, not I'm pretty certain that's not the problem |
00:57.26 | Yewbacca | Alright, hm |
00:57.40 | Yewbacca | One thing's for sure, it's doing it the way I dreaded |
00:57.42 | Yewbacca | Pre-3.2 |
00:57.47 | NeoTron | but see it this way. if it works for some, how can it not work for others? |
00:57.52 | Gnarfoz | I've not experienced any problems myself though, so there's a limit to what I can attest to |
00:58.02 | NeoTron | oh wait |
00:58.03 | Gnarfoz | one difference is that it's a deDE client |
00:58.10 | Yewbacca | Having to scan tooltip lines, and have knowledge of each gem's effect, and all enchants, and sum it yourself. |
00:58.10 | NeoTron | ah that |
00:58.13 | NeoTron | yes it fails |
00:58.14 | Gnarfoz | not sure that should factor into anything, though |
00:58.17 | NeoTron | I believe I asked for format strings |
00:58.31 | Gnarfoz | Yewbacca: LibStatLogic or something, or LibItemBonus? ask Xinhuan |
00:58.38 | Yewbacca | Yeah but did you see 3.2 changes? |
00:58.49 | Gnarfoz | why would it need format strings for its own settings like 'use autopass yes/no'? ;o |
00:58.49 | NeoTron | and at the time of quitting, no one provided them to me |
00:59.02 | NeoTron | because parse the format strings |
00:59.03 | Yewbacca | There's a new API to take an itemLink and spit out all the stats of all gems, enchants, everything. FINALLY, THANKS BLIZZARD> |
00:59.07 | NeoTron | and it breaks loading then the parsing fails |
00:59.27 | Gnarfoz | do tell what you need when you have time, they should be easy to obtain, right? |
00:59.31 | NeoTron | besides if auto-pass is on, it can't auto pass without properly formatted strings to scan the item |
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00:59.39 | NeoTron | yep |
01:00.26 | NeoTron | although |
01:00.38 | NeoTron | Yewbacca's mention of some way to parse item links might rmeove the need to scan |
01:00.46 | Yewbacca | GetItemStats() |
01:00.50 | Yewbacca | New command I think 3.2 |
01:00.58 | NeoTron | if I can directly get stuff like amount of int, strength, spell damage etc I don't need any stinking item links |
01:01.04 | NeoTron | s/item links/gmatch/ |
01:01.16 | Yewbacca | Do this: /dump GetItemStats('item:etcetcetc:gem:etc:enchant') |
01:01.17 | Antiarc | I either very much misunderstand the Scale animations |
01:01.21 | Yewbacca | I just LOVE blizzard for having made this |
01:01.26 | Antiarc | Or Blizzard's system is brokenish |
01:01.32 | Yewbacca | I'm about to test now to see if it can get stats for fake items |
01:02.24 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: ok so I'll fix magicdkp_client to rely on GetItemStats and probably remove the need to localize |
01:03.06 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: that's even more awesome. ;) |
01:03.52 | NeoTron | yeah all I use that stuff for is stats |
01:04.46 | Antiarc | Yeah, this is messed up |
01:05.00 | Antiarc | Basically, using a scale animation seems to scale the region by <scalar> every <period> |
01:05.25 | NeoTron | http://paste.wowace.com/1277/ as you can see, it's trivial if you can get the stats immediately |
01:05.35 | Antiarc | So for example |
01:05.41 | Antiarc | If you scale by 1.01 for 3 seconds |
01:05.46 | Antiarc | You end up with almost a 300% scalar |
01:05.52 | Antiarc | I think it's scaling by X per frame |
01:05.56 | Antiarc | Which is messed up. |
01:06.10 | NeoTron | sounds like it |
01:07.03 | Antiarc | Uggghhh this sucks |
01:07.30 | NeoTron | so it it also dependant on your framerate? |
01:07.36 | Antiarc | I'm not sure yet. |
01:08.18 | NeoTron | so is there a SCT that uses the animation system yet? :P |
01:08.35 | Antiarc | not as far as I know |
01:09.45 | NeoTron | seems like the number one obvious thing where it might be useful |
01:10.05 | NeoTron | except I don't know how easy it is to do more complex movements like circular ones, or "fountain" type modes |
01:10.24 | Antiarc | I don't know how to do non-linear transformation yet |
01:11.48 | NeoTron | here's an addon idea. An addon that keeps track of your minimum/maximum stats while in combat and shows a meter of your current value relative to max |
01:12.08 | NeoTron | basically a way to visually represent various procs to see when to pop your gargoyle or something |
01:12.20 | NeoTron | not sure if it'd be useful :p |
01:12.37 | Antiarc | That's basically what the test addon for libbars was :P |
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01:14.07 | Antiarc | http://www.wegame.com/watch/Scaling_bug/ |
01:14.16 | Antiarc | That behavior is from http://pastey.net/126254 |
01:15.26 | NeoTron | cute |
01:15.44 | Yewbacca | Ok this is quite disappointing, Blizzard didn't think enough to sum the gems and enchant effects from items when they designed GetItemStats(), which should at the very least have been (itemLink,boolIncGems,boolIncEnchants) to toggle that we want the gem and enchant parts of the itemLink to be calculated. |
01:15.59 | Yewbacca | So for instance: /script local _, itemLink = GetItemInfo("{drop an item here from inv}"); local info = GetItemStats(itemLink); for k,v in pairs(info) do print(k..' = '..v) end << only shows base info. |
01:16.19 | Yewbacca | You'll still have to do GetItemGem() for gems |
01:16.27 | NeoTron | but |
01:16.28 | Yewbacca | And then have a table of each gem effect and add it to the item stats table :/ |
01:16.36 | NeoTron | you can do tha and then use it with getitemstats? |
01:16.42 | NeoTron | or not? |
01:16.47 | Yewbacca | I just had the same idea |
01:16.54 | Yewbacca | GetItemGem() then getitemstats on the gem link |
01:17.01 | Yewbacca | Let's see |
01:17.14 | NeoTron | yep should do the trick |
01:17.24 | NeoTron | not as eas as you expected, but trivial relative to manual parsing |
01:17.34 | Yewbacca | Yeah and the new GetItemStats() is superb |
01:17.44 | Yewbacca | No more locale problems or anything |
01:18.16 | Antiarc | You know |
01:18.32 | Antiarc | I suspect that this is a bug, and nobody has found it yet because nobody has used the animation system :V |
01:18.51 | NeoTron | yep |
01:19.04 | NeoTron | Antiarc: not unlikely. or more likely, no one has tried to use scaling |
01:19.12 | NeoTron | anyhow home time |
01:19.41 | Ingela | if i want an option for sharedmedia statusbars for example, i do |
01:19.42 | Ingela | <PROTECTED> |
01:19.42 | Ingela | <PROTECTED> |
01:19.50 | Antiarc | Whoa, what the hell |
01:19.54 | Antiarc | The second time I scale something |
01:19.57 | Antiarc | It works as advertised |
01:19.58 | Yewbacca | GetItemStats() did not work on gem links. |
01:20.09 | Ingela | but yeh, how do i read the information the statusbar set? |
01:20.13 | Yewbacca | Typical blizzard, incomplete APIs |
01:20.34 | Ingela | <PROTECTED> |
01:22.08 | Yewbacca | This is not just typical blizzard, it's TYPICAL blizzard (meaning fucked up). If you give GetItemStats() an itemlink full of gems etc, it ACTUALLY gives you fields like: EMPTY_YELLOW_SLOTS=1, etc, even though they're filled. It'd make a *little?* more sense if it at least looked at the link. |
01:22.57 | Yewbacca | So what has to be done is, well, annoying: GetItemStats() to get the base stats, then keep track of socket count, then GetItemGem() each, then use the Gem IDs to look in a LOCAL handmade database of what each gem adds, then sum that, and then do the same for enchants. |
01:23.01 | Yewbacca | No no no no, screw that. |
01:23.40 | Yewbacca | It's not even that hard, I know, but if anyone wants to do it, feel free. I'm not interested in maintaining databases of all gems and enchants and update as soon as they change. :P |
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01:24.35 | Yewbacca | Especially not when A) the game client knows perfectly well what the item stats are based on the item link full of gems, and B) the GetItemStats() was designed by monkeys :P |
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01:28.54 | Yewbacca | If you wanna see the nice new functions that they screwed up, see http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemStats and http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemStatDelta |
01:29.13 | Yewbacca | I bet RatingBuster still does oldschool tooltip scanning just because of this, since it sums gems and enchants and anything else. |
01:30.48 | Yewbacca | There isn't even an API to get the enchant of an item, that HAS to be done via tooltip scanning (just checked) |
01:30.52 | Yewbacca | F U blizz, once again :D |
01:37.04 | Gagorian | Yewbacca: Umm, as far as I know you can get the enchant from the itemlink? |
01:38.15 | Yewbacca | Yeah good point, as an itemlink. That goes for gems too though. None of this makes any sense, blizzard KNOWS we scan tooltips to get stats of an item, we usually do not want the *BASE* stats without gems and enchants, and yet they didn't even provide switches to sum in other parts of the itemLink. They took the easy way out, inexcusable. |
01:38.16 | Gagorian | At least the enchant id |
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01:39.29 | Yewbacca | So despite the new command we're back at two ways to go: Either build your own database of each enchant and gem and what it does, and sum it together with what GetItemStats() and manual itemLink parsing will give you. OR do tooltip scanning and get the proper stats right away, and tooltip scan libraries are mature enough now. |
01:40.36 | Yewbacca | WoWEquip was updated in 3.1, guess what that means? Yes, no epic gems. That's just one example of why I'm calling this off, I don't wanna have to maintain databases of items because blizzard were too stupid to think of *why* we want a tooltip scanner in the first place. |
01:41.25 | Yewbacca | There's one way that might work: Generate a fake itemlink with the gem and enchant IDs you want, then set it as the itemRef of a tooltip and use one of the tooltip scanning libraries. |
01:41.50 | Gnarfoz | ulic: also: http://paste.wowace.com/1278/ |
01:43.33 | Yewbacca | That method would be the closest to something maintainable. |
01:51.36 | Stanzilla | man that twin valkyr door tactic is sooo lame |
01:51.44 | Yewbacca | As I thought, RatingBuster still uses tooltip scanning. That's how useful the new crippled command is... |
01:52.02 | Yewbacca | And how many lines of code is the library for scanning that of every language? Why yes, it's 14000 lines of code :D |
01:52.19 | Yewbacca | We shouldn't have to keep doing this the manual way. |
02:04.09 | Ingela | Stanzilla, what door tactic? |
02:05.23 | Stanzilla | Ingela: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-3zshJ0YOA |
02:05.40 | Ingela | :O |
02:06.08 | Stanzilla | the video is the shittiest i've ever seen |
02:06.20 | Stanzilla | best part is where the dk fails to repair his red shoulders mid fight |
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02:12.27 | Ingela | question, i just tried my addon when i had no addons on, no sharedmedia then... uhm... it's giving me an error as soon as i open the options window because i don't have sharedmedia |
02:12.30 | Ingela | so it can't find the custom widget |
02:12.38 | Ingela | for changing texture |
02:12.51 | Ingela | so my question is, should i make sharedmedia an needed addon for it to run? |
02:12.56 | Ingela | or how to fixx |
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02:16.45 | rubik | Stanzilla: my head hurts from the music in that youtube video |
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02:33.20 | Antiarc | Your addon needs to embed AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets |
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02:39.04 | Ingela | Antiarc, yes i just figured that out, i fucked up bigtime with the libs hehe |
02:39.18 | Ingela | didn't care about the libs i had everything when i'm on my main ^ |
02:39.25 | Ingela | so now i added them and it works fine |
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02:41.05 | Ingela | hmm... now how do i add libbetterblizzoptions |
02:49.29 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2368 / (2 files in 2 directories): Atlas 1.15.0 now the supported version, 1.15.1 the beta |
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02:51.20 | Repo | Added: |
02:51.23 | Repo | -SharedMedia textures |
02:51.26 | Repo | -Custom Width And Height |
02:51.26 | quiescens | carefully |
02:51.29 | Repo | -Added RGB and Alpha settings |
02:52.59 | Ingela | hmm, how do i delete a folder |
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02:54.31 | Repo | 10yssinstancemaps: 03yssaril 07master * 35ad906 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated) |
02:54.34 | Repo | 35ad906: properly fix the model scalling issues without it impacting the hover animation |
02:54.37 | Repo | 5724079: fix some instance data |
02:54.40 | Repo | da12730: run miner |
02:54.43 | Repo | e88265b: update miner to be able to fix wowhead missspellings /sigh |
02:55.28 | Repo | 10ingelasrapture (experimental): 03ingela * r7 / (28 files in 9 directories): |
02:55.32 | Repo | Apparantly not everything got uploaded. I'm a noob. Trying again! :) |
02:56.06 | Repo | 10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3-1-g04d4140 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add movable splash anchor. Damn this abominable piece of code and the hacks required to work around it to hell. |
03:00.26 | Ingela | Antiarc, :D |
03:05.09 | Repo | 10ingelasrapture (experimental): 03ingela * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated so it actually works. Whee! |
03:06.18 | Ingela | so i heard it's good having a working addon |
03:06.39 | quiescens | a common misconception |
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03:12.25 | Yssaril | Ingela: bah didn't see you online so i left a comment on your addon (short version: do not hard embedd libs) |
03:13.01 | Ingela | yes Yssaril i heard so too |
03:13.18 | Ingela | just haven't got to the point where i was going to fix that |
03:13.18 | Ingela | =() |
03:13.33 | Yssaril | trust me its easier to fix now than later :P |
03:13.55 | Ingela | then i will do it now then |
03:14.04 | Ingela | thanks for telling me btw :) |
03:15.25 | Yssaril | np ask here if you need help with it can be alot to handle the first time through |
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03:18.33 | Ingela | yes ok, Yssaril, help me |
03:18.57 | Ingela | for first included lib, AceAddon-3.0 |
03:19.00 | Ingela | how do i inlcude that |
03:19.21 | Ingela | <PROTECTED> |
03:19.23 | Ingela | is that good enough? |
03:19.52 | Ingela | and also, should i delete all the libs |
03:20.36 | Yssaril | Ingela: yea you should not have a libs folder when you are done the packager creates it and fills it for you |
03:20.45 | Ingela | aight |
03:20.56 | Yssaril | check out http://paste.wowace.com/1279/ its the pkgmeta file for my current project |
03:21.05 | Ingela | thanks alot |
03:21.37 | Ingela | oh yeh Yssaril, this is my first addon as you noticed, sorry for my noobisness ^_^ |
03:21.43 | Yssaril | np :) |
03:21.48 | Yssaril | figured as much |
03:22.20 | Yssaril | first line is usually unecessary it tells the packager exactly what folder name you addon should be |
03:22.40 | Ingela | package-as: ingelasrapture |
03:22.40 | Ingela | !! |
03:22.45 | Ingela | one step ahead of you! |
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03:23.21 | Yssaril | yep :) |
03:23.50 | Yssaril | after that we have our externals list (an external is any file/files that you are pulling from another project repository) |
03:24.15 | Yssaril | there are 2 formats on how to write the list i prefer the compact one |
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03:25.27 | Yssaril | basicaly goes like this <folder where you want your lib to be>: <repo of the lib> |
03:25.45 | Ingela | yeah, i found so much |
03:25.45 | Ingela | =) |
03:26.35 | Yssaril | at the bottom of my sample i have a file that is needed if you want to work on the project (a wowhead miner) but you dont need if you are a user as such i put it as ignored and it won't get packaged |
03:26.48 | Yssaril | but people can still get it if they pull it from the repo |
03:27.01 | Ingela | ah, that's smart |
03:27.16 | Ingela | so, ok, i think i added all the ace3 addons now |
03:27.20 | Ingela | or libs |
03:27.24 | Ingela | now onto the other ones |
03:28.08 | Ingela | AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets hm.. wonder what kind of person that did this lib |
03:28.12 | Yssaril | also watchout for some libs are found directly under trunk some are in a subfolder see the difference between the ace libs and the babble libs in my sample |
03:30.17 | Ingela | oh yeh, that was a joke btw ;) |
03:30.38 | Yssaril | idk some idot with too much time on his hands i think |
03:30.44 | Ingela | haha |
03:30.45 | Ingela | :D |
03:32.07 | Yssaril | funny thing is i created them for a project that i never wrote (as such i have never used them in an addon myself) exept for the test addon i have :) |
03:33.48 | Ingela | and now i use em :D thanks! |
03:35.08 | Repo | 10ingelasrapture (experimental): 03ingela * r9 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
03:35.11 | Repo | Deleted hard embedded libs. Hopefully edited .pkgmeta file correctly. Thanks Yssaril for the help! |
03:36.46 | Ingela | oh yeh now you can download -nolib version |
03:36.48 | Ingela | cool |
03:39.50 | Yssaril | yep :) also if you read throught he pkgmeta kb page you can turn off the nolib version :) |
03:41.37 | Ingela | think i got all libs too, eveyrthing seems to be working fine =) |
03:41.43 | Ingela | thanks a lot again Yssaril |
03:41.59 | Yssaril | also if you stick the libs in an xml file the file is usually named embeds.xml though you can just reference them via the toc file just fine |
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03:42.52 | Yssaril | you can even let the packager comment out the lib references in the toc file for nolib version (highly recomended since it helps with start times) |
03:43.31 | Ingela | i think i'll just disable the nolib |
03:43.42 | Ingela | because the addon deosn't even work 10% without the libs |
03:44.27 | Yssaril | Ingela: reason for the nolib version is so that people can download them sepearatly and thus dont have to load 20-30 copies of the same lib |
03:44.54 | Ingela | yeh, but i will create 2 files eveyrtime i update the addon, and that's taking space isn't it? |
03:44.55 | Yssaril | the curse client can automatically download all libs needed for an addon if you download the nolib versions |
03:45.16 | Yssaril | Ingela: space is cheap bandwidth is expensive :) |
03:45.24 | Ingela | ok :D |
03:45.30 | Ingela | i just keep the nolib version there then =) |
03:46.25 | Yssaril | one last thing for nolib version to work correctly you also need to reference the libs as optionaldependancies so that they get loaded before your addon |
03:46.41 | Ingela | maybe it's time for me to get it past experimental stage now |
03:46.42 | Yssaril | http://paste.wowace.com/1280/ <-- sample toc of my latest addon :) |
03:47.49 | Ingela | ah! just seems to be alot of problem with the nolib verison! |
03:50.30 | Yssaril | hehe has its ups and downs |
03:57.25 | Yssaril | i like to run with only nolib versions makes finding errors alot easier especcialy if they happen in a lib |
03:57.26 | Ingela | i'll just add no nolib versions right now and see if i can dig into it some other day, time is 05.52 here :) |
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03:57.26 | Yssaril | hehe also best time to debug an addon is during instance runs and raids :) |
03:57.27 | Repo | 10ingelasrapture (experimental): 03ingela * r10 .pkgmeta: Added: enable-nolib-creation: no |
03:57.27 | Ingela | Yssaril =) |
03:57.27 | Yssaril | btw i wansn't joking :P i have done plenty of coding/debugging during raids |
03:57.27 | Ingela | i did too, until we wiped becuase i did /rl in a heroic lol |
03:57.27 | Yssaril | hehe helps being a dps class |
03:57.28 | Ingela | Yssaril, do you think it's ready for reapproval? |
03:57.56 | Yssaril | i would say so as long as it works |
03:58.36 | Yssaril | they are generally fairly forgiving with the actual addon (as long as it dosn't hard embed libs :P) |
03:59.07 | Ingela | :D |
03:59.32 | Yssaril | if you ever make a lib i would toss the idea around on the forums first though :) |
03:59.57 | Arrowmaster | pff i spent most of a hyjal raid after 2.4 debugging threat-2.0 |
04:00.23 | Arrowmaster | i think some healers might have done more damage than me |
04:00.47 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: did your raidleader know what you where doing though? |
04:00.53 | Ingela | haha |
04:01.10 | Arrowmaster | sorta but not really |
04:01.22 | Yssaril | hehe |
04:03.20 | Arrowmaster | they knew i worked on addons a lot of them used but it became apparent later that week i think exactly which i was working on mostly when i yelled at people to update omen because they still had bugs "I already fixed a day ago" |
04:03.42 | Yssaril | lol |
04:04.45 | Yssaril | loves the fact that we now have actual threat numbers and don't have to guess anymore |
04:04.54 | Ingela | haha yes |
04:05.00 | Ingela | i remember in vanilla when you had to guess aggro |
04:05.00 | Ingela | :D |
04:05.07 | Arrowmaster | that was debug hell week |
04:05.19 | Yssaril | even BC you had to guess |
04:05.39 | Arrowmaster | it was an addon guessing but they were guesses |
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04:05.56 | Ingela | oh yeah i mean before omen, like when you had to guess depending on like crits |
04:05.57 | Yssaril | got easier due to the new combat log but still a pain in the ass |
04:06.32 | Arrowmaster | more accurate, not necessarily easier |
04:07.49 | Yssaril | meant easier as in no longer needing to extract dmg from strings |
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04:09.09 | Ingela | omg i'm tired, been coding for like 3-4 hours now or something and clock is 6.10 |
04:09.22 | Ingela | life sucks if you're a noob <.< |
04:10.00 | Yssaril | gets easier (till you start working on something harder) :P |
04:10.42 | Ingela | :D |
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04:12.28 | NeoTron | epic. 10 man beasts. we had 3 or 4 people dead already.. and I am tanking as the only tank alive.. and I get DI'd |
04:12.34 | NeoTron | when we realize it's me and a priest left |
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04:50.43 | pompy1 | anyone on the Burning Legion-EU server? |
04:50.58 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tidy-plates-clean-plates/. Tidy Plates: Clean Plates. suicidalkatt (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
04:51.03 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ingelasrapture/. Ingela's Rapture. ingela (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
05:07.34 | Repo | 10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3-2-g4add544 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fix pet spells, fix anchoring for re-used frames |
05:09.13 | asmodai | yawns |
05:11.22 | asmodai | Antiarc: I'll make sure to track alpha for now wrt sexycooldown |
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05:56.50 | digmouse | anyone's Equipment Manager working on PTR? |
05:58.23 | asmodai | digmouse: It should show a button on the character frame, right? Because I didn't see that yesterday. |
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05:59.25 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r107 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed Violet Proto Drake speed (ticket #33). |
06:00.02 | digmouse | asmodai: it wont save any set |
06:00.05 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle 04v1.7-beta * r108 : Tagging as v1.7-beta |
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06:36.07 | Repo | 10cowtip_luatext: 03profalbert 04v0.4-beta * b139d46 /: [new tag] tag as v0.4-beta |
06:52.15 | orionshock | Antiarc: also, disabling tooltips or locking the bar prevents the "right click to blacklist" |
06:54.24 | Antiarc | orionshock: Hrm. I'll have to think about how best to solve that. |
06:55.04 | orionshock | Antiarc: also, unequiped trinkets shouldn't be on the bar :) |
06:55.13 | Antiarc | are they? |
06:55.27 | orionshock | yes |
06:55.28 | Antiarc | You may have an old copy of LibInternalCooldowns if they're trinkets with internal cooldowns. |
06:55.49 | orionshock | no internal CD, known CD from Bag_update |
06:56.08 | Antiarc | Oh, hrm, shared cooldown item? |
06:56.17 | orionshock | i've got 3 AP/SP trinkets, when i use one the ~12sec CD from the one in the bag shows up |
06:56.38 | orionshock | i expect the CD from the 2 im wearing to show up always, but ... the one in the bag? |
07:06.24 | Repo | 10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3-3-g9a58102 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add profile support. |
07:15.56 | digmouse | crap.. addons messed on PTR |
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07:22.21 | orionshock | ok, so how do you kill a shammy? |
07:22.31 | orionshock | one that 3 shots you? |
07:23.31 | fewyn | cry on the forums until they get nerfed and then kill them? |
07:25.38 | orionshock | i should... |
07:25.44 | orionshock | where is the skill? |
07:28.16 | quiescens | -> |
07:31.08 | asmodai | <-- shammy |
07:32.07 | asmodai | Although I seriously prefer shaman. |
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07:37.45 | orionshock | asmodai: you guys suck (shammy) btw |
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07:38.58 | kromar | hi, anyone knows if wowui.incgamers.com has a irc channel? |
07:39.14 | asmodai | profalbert: We aim to displease. |
07:39.23 | asmodai | #wowuidev or something IIRC |
07:39.33 | profalbert | asmodai: hm? |
07:45.47 | asmodai | errr |
07:45.50 | asmodai | mistype |
07:45.52 | asmodai | meant orionshock |
07:45.53 | Elkano | iirc incgames used to run their own ircd |
07:45.59 | Repo | 10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3-4-g9cd7753 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add alternate bar orientations |
07:46.08 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6544 Ulduar/Thorim.lua: |
07:46.11 | Repo | revert cleanups, it's actually a fuckup waiting to happen. This fixes the issue with half the Impale's throwing errors. |
07:47.10 | [Ammo] | ruining my morning coffee grrrrr |
07:48.38 | quiescens | o.o |
07:50.19 | Repo | 10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3-5-ga3e06c0 prototype.lua: [+1 commit] Restore a piece of code that was causing lockups; fixed now. |
07:51.52 | asmodai | switches [Ammo]'s coffee with tea |
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08:02.49 | asmodai | What a bullshit |
08:03.07 | asmodai | When Dragon Age gets released it will already have 3 downloads available, which you have to buy |
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08:09.46 | Elkano | hmm? |
08:10.29 | quiescens | hmm |
08:11.28 | Elkano | asmodai, have any link on that? |
08:13.41 | asmodai | Elkano: Let me find an english one |
08:13.46 | asmodai | Elkano: unless you can read Dutch? :) |
08:13.59 | Elkano | not that well ^^ |
08:14.00 | asmodai | ah wait, english |
08:14.08 | asmodai | http://www.gamespot.com/news/6232117.html |
08:14.24 | Elkano | even had a hard time understanding Rudi Carell ;) |
08:14.35 | asmodai | Hahahah |
08:14.39 | asmodai | Der Rudi! |
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08:16.59 | Elkano | so it's not a 'must buy' |
08:17.06 | asmodai | wth, AMD is working on a 128 bits CPU and Microsoft wants a 128 bit kernel in Windows 8 or 9. |
08:17.20 | asmodai | Elkano: I meant have to buy that the DLC ain't free |
08:17.38 | stolen|school | they're going to keep that very intelligent naming scheme? |
08:17.52 | asmodai | apparently |
08:18.14 | asmodai | Apparently Windows 8 will be named chidori |
08:18.15 | SunTsu | Elkano: Who would ever even want to understand Rudi Carell? |
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08:18.23 | asmodai | As if someone has been watching Naruto |
08:18.57 | quiescens | is that in case someone wants to put in 316 octillion gb of ram? |
08:19.53 | asmodai | http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/4/15/amds-next-gen-bulldozer-is-a-128-bit-crunching-monster.aspx |
08:19.59 | Elkano | well, iirc a 128 bit architecture would allow for 4 parallel 32bit operations like ADD |
08:21.13 | asmodai | http://developer.amd.com/CPU/SSE5/Pages/default.aspx |
08:21.52 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6545 Core/BossPrototype.lua: prevent big bad error, just throw a friendly one |
08:22.57 | quiescens | yay |
08:23.00 | quiescens | friendly error |
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08:26.13 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r275 / (3 files in 3 directories): Add options for the new heals-incoming status. |
08:29.21 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6546 Options/Options.lua: |
08:29.25 | Repo | set scroll to 0 when swithcing screens. this fixes the issue where you switch from a scrolled down pane to a smaller pane that caused half of the options to be scrolled offscreen |
08:29.52 | asmodai | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/sillies.php?d=20090914 |
08:30.47 | asmodai | or http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/sillies.php?d=20090919 XD |
08:34.44 | digmouse | any buff mod working on PTR? |
08:34.52 | digmouse | Satrina Buff Frames broke |
08:49.47 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6547 Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: bugfix KT enabling |
08:52.25 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r320 / (3 files in 1 directory): core: change quest rewards to where -1 is none. |
08:52.28 | Repo | BC/Wrath: accomidate chnage, add Sons of hodir to non-heroic daily rewards list |
08:52.31 | Repo | ldb: change method names for wg reset timmer, we're going to have more strange resets later. |
08:52.40 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r321 core.lua: core: change quest rewards to where -1 is none. |
08:59.05 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r322 wotlk.lua: bugfix |
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09:30.46 | asmodai | So, on the EU servers we now have 100 Holycow toons. |
09:30.58 | asmodai | Lets see how Cataclysm will change that when Taurens get paladins. |
09:31.40 | Pneumatus | Alliance will get 100 Worgenfreeman's |
09:32.39 | asmodai | hahaha |
09:33.07 | asmodai | does that fit ? |
09:33.12 | Pneumatus | dunno |
09:33.14 | asmodai | In the name input field? |
09:33.18 | Pneumatus | we have a Benafflock though |
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09:34.21 | asmodai | There's one arena team called WorgenFreeman |
09:35.54 | Wobin | ^^ |
09:35.58 | Pneumatus | Come Honor Chest is the best arena team name |
09:37.16 | asmodai | Pneumatus: I still don't get that joke |
09:37.34 | asmodai | Oh wait |
09:37.43 | asmodai | come on her chest? |
09:38.07 | Pneumatus | yz |
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09:46.30 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2369 Documentation/Release_Notes.txt: - updated patch notes |
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10:10.25 | Xinhuan | Torhal ping! |
10:10.28 | Xinhuan | time to disturb him :) |
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10:18.24 | Xinhuan | there should be a ticket status that closes it as "completed" |
10:18.52 | Xinhuan | the only options now are "fixed" or "verified" |
10:19.05 | Xinhuan | or invalid, duplicate, declined |
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10:29.31 | TNSe | or "speeding" |
10:30.32 | TNSe | we all love gettnig tickets for "speeding" |
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10:57.17 | orionshock | Xinhuan: fixed would technically be the same |
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11:00.20 | digmouse | where can I get scopes on PTR? |
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11:08.55 | asmodai | Xinhuan: Heh, light a fire under Torhal's feet ;) |
11:10.07 | Xinhuan | lights a fire under Torhal's feet |
11:12.15 | asmodai | rofl |
11:27.51 | asmodai | [Ammo]: Ever ate a 'kapsalon'? :) |
11:28.49 | [Ammo] | no don't think so |
11:29.07 | [Ammo] | sounds hairy though |
11:29.20 | Repo | 10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r237 branches (4 files in 3 directories): added preview mode :) |
11:29.33 | asmodai | [Ammo]: patat + shaorma + sla + kaas + knoflooksaus :D |
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11:30.22 | Pneumatus | looks like some kind of salad |
11:31.05 | SunTsu | Sounds like smth. you eat to have lots of space in a crowd |
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11:32.06 | Pneumatus | kebab meat, cheese, mayonnaise and salad if im understanding the wikipedia article right |
11:32.32 | asmodai | Not as we serve it here in Rotterdam (where it comes from) |
11:32.36 | asmodai | All I encountered are: |
11:32.52 | asmodai | fries + shoarma meat/kebab + cheese + lettuce + garlic saucce |
11:32.54 | asmodai | sauce |
11:33.13 | Pneumatus | close enough |
11:33.59 | Pneumatus | Ook bestaat er een shoarmaschotel 'kapsalon', bestaande uit patat bedekt met shoarma, Goudse kaas, knoflooksaus en salade. |
11:33.59 | [SW]Dodge | there is no option to "destroy" a frame? |
11:34.04 | Pneumatus | according to wikipeado |
11:34.08 | [SW]Dodge | s/option/function/ |
11:34.17 | Pneumatus | [SW]Dodge: nop |
11:34.19 | [SW]Dodge | ok |
11:34.20 | Pneumatus | reuse them |
11:34.21 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
11:34.31 | [SW]Dodge | hm |
11:34.40 | asmodai | Pneumatus: That's the one |
11:35.11 | Pneumatus | knoflooksaus is garlic mayo or something? |
11:35.41 | Pneumatus | infact wikipedia translates it to aioli |
11:35.47 | Pneumatus | which isn't really mayonnaise-like at all |
11:36.17 | asmodai | knoflook = garlic, saus = sauce |
11:36.35 | Pneumatus | fair enough :) |
11:36.47 | SunTsu | Pneumatus: AFAIK it's more fluid than mayonaise |
11:37.02 | asmodai | knoflook = knoblauch \o/ |
11:37.08 | asmodai | remembers some stray German |
11:37.11 | Pneumatus | SunTsu: yeh, it's more oil-based and doesn't have to be made with egg |
11:37.39 | asmodai | I find aoili quite different from garlic sauce though |
11:39.21 | SunTsu | asmodai: Don't ever tell smb. from the netherlands that *g* |
11:40.09 | asmodai | SunTsu: Why? :) |
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11:41.50 | SunTsu | asmodai: last time I checked german language was noth netherland's favorite ;) |
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11:42.28 | asmodai | SunTsu: Some of my countryfolk are stupid in that regard. |
11:42.58 | asmodai | As a Dutchie I had a lot of good memories of Germany with holidays, people, food, etc |
11:43.04 | asmodai | The Shatterspear tribe, and their village, will become accesible in World of Warcraft: Cataclysm. A screenshot of the village released via press kit shows an Ancient nearby. |
11:43.22 | [Ammo] | I live next to the german border and handle german support calls for the company |
11:43.31 | [Ammo] | so I guess I have to at least understand it and speak it somewhat |
11:43.42 | Stanzilla | ammo riecht gut |
11:43.45 | Stanzilla | :> |
11:43.46 | SunTsu | asmodai: I had some real good time in the netherlands too, even during soccer games oranje vs. germany *g* |
11:44.25 | asmodai | Stanzilla: hahaha |
11:45.01 | asmodai | SunTsu: Yeah, but some people, even still from my generation, bring up war references at every moment they can. Without any sensible link to base that on. *sigh* |
11:45.51 | SunTsu | asmodai: yeah, I know, that's what I was hinting at. but it was merely fun |
11:47.02 | [SW]Dodge | cant i use select('#', table) for a table with frames? :( it always returns 1 |
11:47.11 | asmodai | SunTsu: Heh, wrong Dutchie to approach for that then I guess, haha. I've been annoyed for many years with the shortsightedness of some of my countrymen |
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11:49.06 | SunTsu | asmodai: I most of the time am kidding around with relation to netherlands. I most of the time say that I like the netherlands very much, if only there wasn't the dutch..:> |
11:49.41 | sb|work | morning |
11:50.07 | Stanzilla | I like that they mark everyone that failed the driving test with those cool orange license plates |
11:50.26 | sb|work | :p |
11:50.39 | asmodai | SunTsu: Hahaha |
11:50.50 | asmodai | SunTsu: I'm sure we say the same thing about Germany |
11:50.54 | asmodai | Oh no, wait, that was France. |
11:51.00 | asmodai | (Sorry Bibi!) |
11:51.36 | SunTsu | asmodai: I say that about france, too. And about bavaria :> |
11:52.08 | SunTsu | .o0( frankly, the world is a wonderful place - if it wasn't for mankind :> ) |
11:52.21 | Stanzilla | bavaria is awesome |
11:52.46 | asmodai | Bavaria, isn't that the weisswurst republic? |
11:52.55 | SunTsu | "I am no racist, I hate everybody equally" ;) |
11:53.22 | SunTsu | asmodai: yeah, that's the one |
11:54.15 | asmodai | For some reason I now crave Kaiserschmarren |
11:54.39 | Stanzilla | thats austrian |
11:54.44 | asmodai | I know. |
11:54.48 | asmodai | Which is even weirder. |
11:54.50 | Stanzilla | but awesome :D |
11:54.57 | SunTsu | it is, yeah |
11:55.31 | asmodai | Still love it a lot with jam |
11:56.12 | SunTsu | But I have to visit Venlo again, I'd like to have a kaasoufle |
11:56.48 | asmodai | Kaassoufles, omg :) |
11:57.31 | asmodai | hahah: |
11:57.32 | asmodai | I wish Blizzard would do like SoE did in SWG. |
11:57.36 | asmodai | Take all the high level creatures, in this case horde and alliance leaders, throw them in an arena and make them aggro eachother, they could do 2 fights, 1 where it's all vs all, and one fight with faction vs faction, then we could get all theese "vs" threads over with. |
12:01.00 | Megalon | asmodai: not with jam, with zwetschkenroester! |
12:01.06 | asmodai | Megalon: Whazzat? |
12:01.38 | Megalon | that's what kaiserschmarrn is normally served with ;) |
12:01.50 | asmodai | But what iiiiiiiiiiiiis it? :) |
12:02.02 | asmodai | Looks jam-like |
12:02.12 | Megalon | plum jam |
12:02.16 | Kalroth | strawberry jam |
12:06.52 | asmodai | Aha |
12:07.53 | asmodai | Strange, so calculated from the base stats, a DK always has +88 str, +53 agi, +79 sta, +9 int, +22 spi, except for Gnomes (+10 int) and Humans (+26 spi) |
12:08.58 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6548 Plugins/Broadcast.lua: bugfix broadcast |
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12:17.00 | Megalon | Antiarc: sexycooldowns, it seems like every cd hugs the center of the bar, time marks are not spread out accross it |
12:17.24 | Megalon | and the time compression option changes nothing |
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12:28.57 | Repo | 10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r238 branches (3 files in 2 directories): |
12:29.01 | Repo | made option to change button count working without ui reload (after removing buttons you still should reload ui!) |
12:34.41 | asmodai | omg |
12:34.52 | asmodai | So at work we have this external company do code for us on some project |
12:35.26 | asmodai | They use a repository system (in which they apparently create some 4 trunks :| ) |
12:35.42 | asmodai | but they also don't cut releases or use version information in any way |
12:36.30 | asmodai | I've never seen a less reliable party for code. |
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12:38.59 | SunTsu | asmodai: Ever read daily WTF? |
12:40.54 | asmodai | Aye |
12:41.04 | asmodai | This would qualify. |
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13:02.56 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
13:03.08 | bluspacecow | !seen mybutt |
13:03.20 | bluspacecow | ok |
13:03.35 | bluspacecow | !seen Zeksie |
13:03.55 | bluspacecow | oh |
13:03.59 | bluspacecow | :) |
13:04.03 | bluspacecow | he's out |
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13:14.49 | Funkeh` | bluspacecow, licking your butt again? |
13:14.57 | bluspacecow | yep |
13:15.12 | Funkeh` | How many times must we tell you! |
13:16.32 | Wobin | "Don't talk with your mouth full"? |
13:19.45 | bluspacecow | invite you around before doing so ? |
13:19.48 | bluspacecow | bring KY jelly ? |
13:20.15 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6549 Ulduar/Thorim.lua: |
13:20.19 | Repo | Ulduar/Thorim: Revert the revert and really fix the issue with impale errors. There's more weirdness going on with both versions of this module I need to figure out. |
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13:28.35 | orionshock | anyone remember the name of the quest chain in nagrand for horde that brings thrall in? |
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13:34.50 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r135 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix version sync spam |
13:35.15 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat 043.1 * r136 : Tagging as 3.1 |
13:36.47 | asmodai | orionshock: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10175 ? |
13:38.49 | asmodai | only Thrall NPC for Nagrand I can find is http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19556 |
13:39.31 | Wobin | You talk to whineyface |
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13:39.54 | Wobin | And I suspect it starts with the orc chain in HFP |
13:39.59 | Wobin | I've never done it though |
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13:46.29 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6550 OnyxiasLair/Onyxia.lua: Weird breath IDs, added them all! |
13:48.55 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r276 / (2 files in 2 directories): Merge the two defaultDB in heals-incoming status. |
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13:59.25 | ripdog | Antiarc: I just tried SexyCooldown. I love you. |
13:59.43 | steev | how often does Acidmaw sweep? |
14:00.01 | steev | every 30s? |
14:00.41 | Wobin | just whenever it gets dusty |
14:01.18 | asmodai | rofl |
14:01.31 | asmodai | Wobin: Got a few roos loose in yer top paddock mate ;) |
14:01.34 | ripdog | Antiarc: But I have a little issue with SexyMap. I have it set to a square border, and initially, the gathermate nodes and blizzard arrows reflected this. However, since a while ago, they act as though in a circle minimap - is there any way to fix this? |
14:02.10 | steev | Wobin: the knockback he does :-P |
14:02.12 | asmodai | ripdog: Oh, I wonder if that explains why my routes line just ended quite a bit at the top of the map |
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14:03.19 | ripdog | asmodal: Possibly, if it happens in a circle pattern around the whole thing |
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14:07.45 | asmodai | guild names I just spotted: <Get Geared or Wipe Tryin> <IKEA For Your Epics> |
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14:15.29 | steev | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/LzGKgAvcs5kdXAIQ/details/11/?s=7862&e=8061 our first attempt at heroic beasts 25 |
14:15.41 | steev | i got my 4th piece of t9 right before we started |
14:17.30 | quiescens | grats |
14:20.31 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6551 Ulduar/Thorim.lua: |
14:20.34 | Repo | Funkeh, this is NOT how you use the damn bitflags. revert stupid cleanups that are not cleanups |
14:20.50 | Funkeh` | oh fuck off |
14:21.14 | [Ammo] | you shall not use database keys from a variable |
14:21.20 | quiescens | o.o |
14:21.43 | quiescens | seething with rage~ |
14:21.48 | Funkeh` | yeah make the module look like shit |
14:21.50 | Funkeh` | thats a better idea |
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14:23.37 | asmodai | seeks a safe corner |
14:24.02 | [Ammo] | it is actually a better idea. The idea is that the DB key is persistent and not dependant on the spellIds passed from the event handler |
14:24.29 | Funkeh` | It will always be persistant because only 1 spellId is ever being passed to those arguments |
14:24.32 | Funkeh` | reuse, recycle |
14:25.09 | Funkeh` | s/arguments/functions |
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14:26.08 | steev | f'n |
14:26.14 | steev | god i had the test dummies |
14:26.24 | asmodai | Crash Test Dummies? :D |
14:26.33 | quiescens | you had them? |
14:26.33 | steev | yes! |
14:26.37 | steev | hate even |
14:26.39 | SunTsu | Mmmmh mmmmh mmmmh mmmmh! |
14:26.44 | asmodai | Nice song ^^ |
14:26.53 | [Ammo] | assumptions. next patch blizzard will add another spell ID to an ability for normal or heroic etc, and someone adds it to the self:Log call -> poof no worky worky. The keys are supposed to be constant. |
14:27.03 | SunTsu | hums agreement |
14:27.44 | steev | im trying to test out unholy dps on the target dummies and i stopped, so i'm waiting for the diseases to tick off... |
14:27.46 | Funkeh` | [Ammo], that's an assumption too, for all you know, next patch they might simply change the spellId, and keep it at 1, poof, no worky and you need to change it several times ion the module, not consitant at all |
14:28.27 | steev | i go out of combat, then back in cuz unholy blight ticks... and recount resets and shows me doing a whopping 1 point of damage |
14:28.52 | asmodai | steev: har har |
14:28.52 | quiescens | technically you aren't getting particularly helpful results because its ticking for 1 anyway |
14:29.21 | Bribri | you're better off simulating unholy dps =[ |
14:29.32 | [Ammo] | Funkeh`: constant also means easily matched to the bitflag -> less prone for errors. Anyway, I wrote it to be constant, so it'll be used as constant. |
14:30.11 | [Ammo] | mess it up in whatever modules you want, in bigwigs core modules it remains a constant |
14:30.55 | Funkeh` | "mees it up" funny, i still don't see a valid argument from you |
14:30.57 | Wobin | SunTsu, Afternoons and Coffeespoons |
14:31.25 | Funkeh` | in real world coding situations we use upvalues for frequent references, so we only need to change it once |
14:31.30 | Funkeh` | this is the same situation |
14:31.55 | [Ammo] | not quite |
14:32.03 | [Ammo] | a variable passed to the function is not a defined upvalue |
14:32.07 | [Ammo] | it's a variable |
14:32.34 | [Ammo] | if you did local mySpell = 1234 and then did self:Message(mySpell, ....) then I'd agree with the upvalue statement |
14:32.43 | Funkeh` | [Ammo], you're definiting the variable once when you register the event |
14:33.00 | Funkeh` | so that you don't need to repeat it over and over agian int he function, it's passed on |
14:33.07 | Funkeh` | for use in bars, etc, you know this |
14:33.46 | [Ammo] | no it's not, the actuall spellId caught is passed, not the spellId associated with the bitflag |
14:34.30 | Funkeh` | That's not quite the point I was making, I know this |
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14:39.31 | Repo | 10big-wigs_common-auras: 03mojosdojo * r147 CommonAuras.lua: Add deDE stuff. |
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14:45.43 | steev | is there a way to tell recount to not reset |
14:45.52 | steev | this shit is getting really old |
14:46.05 | ripdog | click the no button? afaik it only resets when told to |
14:46.21 | steev | its resetting on me on the target dummy in acherus |
14:46.32 | steev | unholy blight continues to tick after you get out of combat |
14:46.50 | ripdog | check your scope settings - the small document icon |
14:46.59 | steev | so recount either resets completely, or it resets me to doing 1 damage |
14:47.00 | ripdog | make sure it's set to Overall |
14:47.41 | SunTsu | steev: You are prolly looking at "last fight" |
14:48.34 | SunTsu | steev: and you really are making only a single point of damage, thet's why those test dummies suck fpr %%or unholy |
14:48.40 | SunTsu | s/fpr/for/ |
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14:54.07 | Ingela | morning |
14:55.54 | steev | SunTsu: i realize that |
14:56.06 | steev | the test dummies sucking |
14:56.18 | steev | but not much i can do about that til bliz releases something better |
14:57.02 | quiescens | it wouldn't be too hard either |
14:57.25 | steev | http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/unholy-4p.png |
14:57.26 | quiescens | just give them a million hp and a million hp/s |
14:57.44 | kadrahil | rawr |
14:57.47 | quiescens | rather than 1 hp but unkillable |
14:57.58 | steev | let em be killed, imo |
14:57.59 | kadrahil | we got 25m heroic anub to like 21% last night a few times >:( |
14:58.09 | kadrahil | sooooo much damage |
14:58.16 | steev | we got to the worms like 2 or 3 times... |
14:58.19 | steev | *whistles* |
14:58.32 | steev | someone is slacking but it ain't me |
14:58.41 | kadrahil | D: |
14:58.49 | steev | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/LzGKgAvcs5kdXAIQ/sum/damageDone/?s=7862&e=8061 |
15:00.03 | steev | that was also our first attempt ever at heroic 25 |
15:00.05 | Ingela | Hmmm, why does it say that my addon doesn't have any files when it has? http://www.wowace.com/addons/ingelasrapture/ |
15:00.34 | steev | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ingelasrapture/files/ |
15:00.37 | steev | showing some to me |
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15:00.50 | Ingela | yeh i have 10 releases there |
15:01.07 | Ingela | This project has no files! |
15:01.07 | Ingela | Please check out our Getting started guide for more information on project management. |
15:01.17 | Ingela | does it say though :S:S:S:S |
15:03.10 | steev | i don't see that at all |
15:03.16 | steev | try hitting ctrl+f5 |
15:03.22 | Ingela | nono it's only when i'm logged in |
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15:05.05 | quiescens | having files is overrated |
15:05.21 | steev | for reals |
15:05.28 | steev | Ingela: ah, well, im not logged in cuz im lazy |
15:05.33 | kadrahil | having releases is overrated |
15:05.43 | steev | having addons is overrated |
15:05.45 | quiescens | peope will just start complaining about x and y not working the way they expect it to |
15:05.49 | kadrahil | this is true! |
15:05.54 | quiescens | s/peope/people/ |
15:06.02 | kadrahil | default UI ftw \o/ |
15:06.08 | kadrahil | except bigwigs is cool. |
15:06.11 | steev | no |
15:06.15 | steev | bigwigs sucks too |
15:06.22 | kadrahil | . |
15:06.40 | kadrahil | slaps Elmoe_ around a bit with a large trout |
15:06.50 | steev | i really hate the alliance t9 helm |
15:07.00 | quiescens | in my day we called out people's health on vent and clicked the actual player's character to cast heals on them |
15:07.01 | steev | i bet blizz is gonna f up the t10 as well |
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15:07.20 | kadrahil | i turned helm showing off after naxx |
15:07.43 | steev | i turned it off after swapping out one that wasn't the starter hood |
15:07.56 | steev | imo, if they are gonna redraw/reuse - use the starter gear |
15:08.02 | steev | the green ones |
15:08.06 | steev | that stuff looked badass |
15:08.34 | Ingela | Antiarc, woaah something happened |
15:08.38 | steev | or, give us the option of buying the stats - but keeping the gear |
15:09.32 | quiescens | you will look like every other member of your class and you will like it! |
15:09.44 | steev | quiescens: no! |
15:10.08 | steev | i look like an f'n paladin, with a damn lightbulb on my helm |
15:10.51 | Ingela | Antiarc: Icons doesn't move at all, i have number 10 in the middle, no number elsewhere. If i increase max time it's going to max 130 and then nothing else |
15:11.49 | steev | so, what is so special about the armored blue wind rider, that it costs 1900g |
15:11.55 | quiescens | its blue |
15:12.02 | quiescens | and has armor |
15:12.36 | steev | i have a blue one without armor and it cost me 25g ;-P |
15:13.02 | quiescens | armor is expensive these days |
15:13.15 | steev | true that |
15:13.37 | steev | some gauntlets on the ah on nesingwary, they want 7k g for them |
15:13.39 | steev | i'm like f that |
15:13.52 | steev | hmm |
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15:14.24 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r277 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix Ticket-40 |
15:14.37 | steev | think ill just save up for the dk mount |
15:14.48 | steev | i've been slow flying this long, i can continue to wait a bit more |
15:15.16 | SunTsu | How can anym%body stand slow flight? |
15:15.52 | quiescens | how did you put m% in there |
15:15.53 | quiescens | lol |
15:16.10 | steev | he's been doing that for a bit |
15:16.17 | steev | something tells me his console settings are messed up |
15:16.37 | steev | 09:48 < SunTsu> steev: and you really are making only a single point of damage, thet's why those test dummies suck fpr %%or unholy |
15:17.15 | quiescens | o.O |
15:17.19 | SunTsu | is fat fingering... |
15:17.40 | SunTsu | I need new fingers, the old ones don't always hit what I want |
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15:18.45 | steev | how do you fat finger the % sign |
15:19.15 | quiescens | very carefully |
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15:19.39 | steev | heh |
15:19.57 | SunTsu | steev: I don't know where that came from. I didn't see it here |
15:20.20 | quiescens | hence the implication that something else is wrong |
15:20.29 | kadrahil | no u |
15:20.34 | quiescens | ): |
15:23.03 | SunTsu | quiescens: Yeah, something is wrong here, that's right. My local X.org only refreshes when I move the mouse :> |
15:23.23 | quiescens | fun |
15:23.24 | steev | er |
15:23.46 | quiescens | I'm trying to work out why resume/thaw intermittently freezes |
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15:40.36 | steev | is there a site with pictures of the different mounts? |
15:41.04 | ripdog | wowhead? i guess wowwiki would too |
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15:57.31 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * 1.3-release-1-g933a537 /: [forced -1 +1] PALADIN: Coefficient changed to Holy Light: 2.5 / 3.5 * 1.25 and Flash of Light: 1.5 / 3.5 * 1.25, changed Divinity and Healing Light to be multiplicative (Thanks cremor) |
16:00.34 | steev | ripdog: was more thinking like, warcraftmounts.com or something (dunno if that exists) - where it just pictures rather than having to look up each one individually and hope someone has uploaded a screenshot |
16:01.08 | ripdog | steev: ah, i'm afraid I can't help, then |
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16:21.25 | Repo | 10ingelasrapture: 03ingela * r11 core.lua: |
16:21.28 | Repo | Added SharedMedia fonts and font scale. Now possible to change background color as well. |
16:25.39 | Megalon | Ingela |
16:25.46 | Ingela | yes? |
16:25.48 | Megalon | found out what it is with sexycooldown |
16:25.54 | Megalon | you have to set the bar orientation |
16:26.07 | Megalon | because it is not set as default |
16:26.11 | Ingela | ah! |
16:26.32 | Ingela | but now eveyrthing is clamped to the right |
16:26.33 | Ingela | hmm |
16:32.42 | winkiller | do you have to set the bar orientation to "straight" in sexycooldown? :P |
16:33.22 | Mec | How would you get a player's threat on a mob if they're not in your group? |
16:45.34 | steev | you wouldn't |
16:45.42 | sb|work | Antiarc: your cooldowns is broken! :p |
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17:14.59 | Repo | 10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3-6-g4fe10ea / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fix the default orientation\ |
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17:18.35 | Repo | 10automagical-changeonator: 03Antiarc 07master * v1.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Equipment manager compat. Thanks ergh99 |
17:18.41 | Repo | 10automagical-changeonator: 03Antiarc 04v1.1 * f9d2034 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.1 |
17:20.05 | NeoTron | Antiarc always has such nice names |
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17:25.05 | KriLL3 | "Interface action failed because of an AddOn" not very useful message, what failed, and what addon caused it? |
17:25.20 | rubik | you ask too much of blizzard |
17:25.24 | Antiarc | You need to turn on taintlogging to find out |
17:25.37 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: kk, rubik: heh |
17:26.08 | KriLL3 | a bit like MS, "can't connect to ****, contact your network administrator." THAT'S ME YOU FUSCKERS!!! |
17:26.25 | Antiarc | You're obviously not qualified then. :crossarms: |
17:28.52 | KriLL3 | just find it funny that they assume the user is a peon, even if they're the administrator in one of their server versions |
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17:52.40 | Repo | 10ace3: 03mikk * r860 AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-EditBox.lua: Ticket 21: Ability to accept links for EditBox Widget |
17:52.43 | Repo | Implemented the given patch pretty much as-is, except made it upgradeable. |
17:53.29 | nevcairiel | as is without AceHook i hope :P |
17:54.08 | nevcairiel | Mikk: go do it for multi-line editbox too :P |
17:54.43 | nevcairiel | mmm i still need soem visual diff viewer for svn |
17:55.28 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: wtb online repo viewing! |
17:56.15 | Bruners | Kaelten: wtb online repo viewing! |
17:57.19 | nevcairiel | It doesn't even have to integrate into the website for all i care |
17:57.28 | nevcairiel | just gitweb and whatever is popular for svn |
17:57.35 | Belazor | WTB online porn viewing |
17:57.47 | nevcairiel | Belazor: wts youporn |
17:57.51 | Belazor | XD |
17:57.54 | Belazor | or tube8 |
17:57.57 | Belazor | redtube |
17:58.00 | Belazor | etc |
17:58.01 | Belazor | XD |
17:59.54 | Ingela | do i smell someone drunk and horny |
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18:00.08 | Belazor | drunk no |
18:00.09 | Belazor | XD |
18:00.31 | Xtek | <3 |
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18:02.14 | Xtek | Fail. |
18:02.48 | asmodai | Hehehe |
18:02.52 | asmodai | hands Belazor pornhub.com |
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18:04.39 | Fisker | was funny btw |
18:04.41 | Funkeh` | wtf channel did i join |
18:04.49 | Fisker | saw someone paste in a redtube link in trade yesterday |
18:04.54 | Fisker | he's gonna be so banned |
18:05.09 | Xtek | </3? |
18:05.25 | NeoTron | all these sites are SFW right? |
18:05.36 | NeoTron | heh |
18:06.03 | Xtek | SFW? |
18:06.14 | Xtek | .0oh |
18:06.20 | Xtek | nono |
18:06.20 | ckknight | Xtek's a noob |
18:06.27 | Xtek | You don't know me! |
18:06.28 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: if you don't have flash installed, probably =P |
18:13.39 | NeoTron | somehow I expect there to be additional non-flash elements too |
18:13.45 | NeoTron | http://www.cracked.com/blog/using-windows-7-may-lead-to-murder/ is however sfw |
18:14.23 | Bruners | Fisker: i didnt know WoW could open links |
18:15.07 | nevcairiel | haha NeoTron |
18:16.55 | Fisker | i didn't say it could Bruners |
18:19.51 | Bruners | Fisker: then how did he paste a redtube link in trade chat? |
18:20.21 | NeoTron | man addons parses links in chat, such as chatter |
18:20.25 | NeoTron | and stuff |
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18:20.42 | I440r | does anyone here have an account on hydraxis? |
18:20.45 | Bruners | NeoTron: omg, im trolling Fisker here |
18:22.14 | NeoTron | failtroll |
18:22.30 | NeoTron | but i c wut u did thar |
18:23.58 | I440r | i need someone on hydraxis to pass a message for me to my guild. my account is currently suspended because i cant afford to keep it active but my guild just put a password on their vent server so i cant even get in there and listen to them stealing all my loots! |
18:24.50 | NeoTron | ok... |
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18:26.43 | nevcairiel | don't you guys have forums or something? |
18:27.23 | I440r | nope |
18:27.24 | I440r | :/ |
18:27.30 | I440r | no web site for the guild yet lol |
18:27.37 | I440r | im co-gm too :/ |
18:27.43 | asmodai | The blizzard realm forum perhaps? |
18:27.49 | nevcairiel | create a trial account :p |
18:27.58 | nevcairiel | can you still whisper people as trial? |
18:28.10 | Xtek | ckknight: is a serious scrub, don't use any of his addons. |
18:28.10 | asmodai | Not sure. |
18:28.10 | I440r | nobody in the guild would SEE my postings lol |
18:28.16 | asmodai | But you can still use the forum even if your account is suspended. |
18:28.22 | nevcairiel | who reads realm forums =P |
18:28.55 | Shefki | asmodai: Not anymore. Hell it locks me out of the forums whenever it processes the payment. |
18:28.56 | I440r | nobody here on hydraxis? doh! |
18:29.03 | Shefki | Even though I can still get on the game. |
18:29.06 | Xtek | Shattered Hand... anyone? |
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18:32.58 | I440r | so could anyone create a temp toon to pass the msg for me? :) |
18:32.59 | rubik | is there some temporary buff or something weird on Auriaya that would cause my brother (holy pally) to have 72.93% crit rate on his Holy Light? |
18:33.17 | I440r | to either smooches (gm) or disscord (co-gm in my absense) |
18:33.45 | stolenlegacy | eu or us? |
18:33.50 | I440r | us hydraxis |
18:33.58 | stolenlegacy | sorry, my accounts are all eu |
18:34.01 | nevcairiel | weee, dr. beckett in supernatural .. i like seeing known faces :p |
18:34.03 | I440r | my toon is magicster and i need them to clear the pass on vent so i can get in |
18:34.34 | Fisker | naw nevcairiel |
18:34.41 | Fisker | it's funny actually |
18:34.46 | Fisker | he was in sg-1 before atlantis |
18:34.47 | Fisker | :o |
18:34.53 | nevcairiel | briefly |
18:34.56 | Fisker | yeah |
18:35.05 | Fisker | was rewatching all 10 seasons and saw him in season 1 |
18:35.24 | nevcairiel | yeah i recently rewatched it too .. well, last year or so |
18:39.09 | Ingela^ | where is adamar!?!?!? |
18:39.13 | Ingela^ | i need to complain! |
18:39.55 | Antiarc | rubik: Did he cast like 6 of them and get lucky? |
18:39.59 | Antiarc | (no, no temp buff) |
18:40.37 | rubik | i'm sure he was spamming holy light, yeah |
18:40.46 | rubik | i'll try to look at the log |
18:42.41 | Fisker | Antiarc's Antiarc in his Antiarc |
18:43.24 | Mec | Is there an aceoption type that is like a text field but with a dropdown for possible presets? |
18:46.16 | nevcairiel | a combobox? no, thats not supported |
18:46.21 | Antiarc | Mec: "select" |
18:46.35 | nevcairiel | I was assuming he wanted to allow free-form as well as the pre-defined |
18:46.40 | Mec | yes |
19:02.28 | yoshimo | @ping |
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19:09.47 | asmodai | Antiarc: btw, can you fix sexymap's load profile? :P |
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19:22.34 | sb|work | Caleb|: ping |
19:24.17 | Caleb| | pont? |
19:24.19 | Caleb| | g |
19:24.31 | NeoTron | pong fail |
19:24.37 | Caleb| | :S |
19:25.24 | sb|work | are you going to implement some shield switch fail to EF (twins)? |
19:25.40 | Fisker | slaps sb|work around a bit with a large trout |
19:25.41 | Fisker | slaps Caleb| around a bit with a large trout |
19:25.42 | Fisker | slaps NeoTron around a bit with a large trout |
19:25.42 | sb|work | aka show people who didnt dps the shield |
19:26.07 | Antiarc | Anyone else having problems pushing via git? |
19:26.12 | Antiarc | I'm trying to push and it's just hanging |
19:26.17 | Pneumatus | how would you work out who's supposed to have swiched, and how much damage they should be doing? |
19:26.22 | Fisker | great |
19:26.27 | Fisker | you convinced it to commit suicide Antiarc |
19:26.33 | Pneumatus | seeing as everyone uses different tactics, etc |
19:26.40 | Antiarc | Just check raid targets every X seconds while the shield is casting |
19:27.20 | Caleb| | probably not sb|work |
19:27.29 | Antiarc | Anyone on a hostile target for >X% that isn't the one casting gets a fail, maybe code in an exception for tanks |
19:27.42 | Pneumatus | and for people that cleave? |
19:27.51 | Pneumatus | like rogues and warriors that can full cleave |
19:28.17 | Caleb| | you do shit damage if you dps wrong one |
19:28.22 | Antiarc | Nobody can full cleave |
19:28.29 | Pneumatus | blade flurry is full cleave |
19:28.31 | Antiarc | Rogue poisons don't blade flurry, for example |
19:28.35 | Fisker | naw Caleb| |
19:28.39 | Antiarc | And poisons are ~20% of your damage |
19:28.45 | Antiarc | As combat |
19:28.54 | Pneumatus | it depends on your tactics, anyway |
19:28.57 | sb|work | Caleb|: right, but i need to see which dumbasses dont switch to shield target (if we fail to destroy shield) |
19:28.58 | Pneumatus | if you switch essence to dps, etc etc |
19:29.10 | Antiarc | You don't switch essence to DPS shields |
19:29.13 | sb|work | i know |
19:29.15 | Pneumatus | we do. |
19:29.18 | Antiarc | Why? |
19:29.24 | Pneumatus | because it's more effective |
19:29.27 | Antiarc | It doesn't affect the damage taken by the shield |
19:29.29 | sb|work | Antiarc: but you have to switch targets :/ |
19:29.32 | sb|work | and some people fail there |
19:29.42 | Antiarc | Shields don't take modified damage based on your essence |
19:30.15 | Pneumatus | they take modified damage once the shield drops off though |
19:30.24 | Fisker | lol |
19:30.48 | Antiarc | So you waste time while the shield is casting to switch essence so that you don't have to switch back after the shield drops? |
19:30.56 | Antiarc | That seems a little backwards, since the shield is the DPS race |
19:31.06 | Fisker | you still have to switch back |
19:31.14 | Pneumatus | we tank them on the white portal |
19:31.19 | Pneumatus | with the raid black |
19:31.21 | Pneumatus | so |
19:31.38 | Pneumatus | our last valks kill was 5:04 or something |
19:31.43 | Antiarc | If you're tanking both of them in one spot, it should be a complete non-issue o.0 |
19:31.56 | Antiarc | 10, 25, 25 heroic? |
19:32.00 | Pneumatus | 25 heroic |
19:32.09 | sb|work | Antiarc: are you sure about that shield thingie? (no modified damage) |
19:32.22 | sb|work | i think damage with wrong essence is totally fucked |
19:32.23 | Antiarc | sb|work: Pretty sure, EJ folks checked it out pretty thoroughly |
19:32.42 | Antiarc | Pneumatus: Heh, guess it works for you then. Seems suboptimal, though |
19:32.45 | Pneumatus | and i'm pretty sure we tried not switching essence and couldnt break the shields |
19:32.55 | Antiarc | Though if your DPS is good enough to make the shields even with the extra lag in switching essence, guess that works |
19:33.09 | asmodai | GAH |
19:33.19 | Pneumatus | the fight generally isn't a dps race at all |
19:33.23 | Pneumatus | its only the shield burns that are |
19:33.24 | Antiarc | Just the shields |
19:33.31 | Pneumatus | if you break the shields you win |
19:33.39 | Antiarc | If your soakers don't fail. :V |
19:33.53 | Pneumatus | seconds kill this week and we oneshot it |
19:33.59 | asmodai | troll rogue challenges to a duel, fine. So duel, I self-heal (being shaman), and in the end win. Then he moans and bitches about "lamo self heals". I mean, it's part of the class, I don't complain about stealth or what not. *sigh* |
19:34.05 | Fisker | so Antiarc |
19:34.11 | Fisker | you cool enough for google wave? |
19:34.16 | Antiarc | Fisker: I am not, apparently |
19:34.20 | Fisker | :/ |
19:34.26 | Antiarc | argh |
19:34.31 | Antiarc | Not being able to push to git is really annoying me |
19:34.40 | Antiarc | Kaelten: ping |
19:35.12 | Pneumatus | we did lose a few people near the end, but top 10 people were over 9k dps, top two were about 10.5k |
19:35.54 | asmodai | Google Wave is a bit too hyped. It's nice, but not the end all solution they make it appear. |
19:36.23 | pompy | Antiarc: for svn too... "Status Can't connect to service, please try again later." |
19:36.30 | Pneumatus | and rogue poisons made like 15% total damage for combat rogues |
19:36.35 | Fisker | www.playboy.com/girls/celebrities/features/marge-simpson/marge-simpson.html <-this is fucked up |
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19:37.17 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: if not being able to push is annoying you, you're doing it wrong =p |
19:37.23 | Fisker | nevcairielmen |
19:37.32 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: Heh, why's that? |
19:37.35 | asmodai | Pneumatus: But what I don't get is, why duel if, obviously, you cannot stand losing. |
19:37.40 | Fisker | i |
19:37.41 | Fisker | want |
19:37.42 | Fisker | MOAR DISK |
19:37.48 | asmodai | We want less Fisker. |
19:37.49 | asmodai | :P |
19:37.57 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: the whole point of a dvcs is that you can continue working without a central tracking repository =p |
19:37.57 | Fisker | no |
19:38.03 | Fisker | moo: hdd: C:\ 23.4GB/74.53GB D:\ 1.36TB/1.82TB E:\ 1.41TB/1.82TB |
19:38.09 | Fisker | i must construct additional HDD |
19:38.12 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: I can keep working, sure, but I want to push a tag for people. |
19:38.19 | steev | moooooooo |
19:38.25 | Antiarc | Pneumatus: Poisons are consistently about 20% of my damage, and I'm an ArP soft-capped combat rogue |
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19:38.33 | Antiarc | At least according to the last couple of parses |
19:38.36 | nevcairiel | ckknight: fix teh repos |
19:38.51 | Fisker | fix moar disk |
19:43.27 | Antiarc | ckknight: wtb git not being dead |
19:43.41 | yoshimo | i think svn is down also |
19:43.45 | pompy | http://www.wowace.com/packager/ |
19:44.01 | pompy | takes a year to load |
19:45.29 | ckknight | @ping |
19:48.44 | Fisker | i'm here ckknight |
19:49.31 | asmodai | packets Fisker |
19:49.51 | pompy | Fisker: noone cares |
19:50.54 | Fisker | you do pompy |
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19:53.29 | sb|work | Antiarc: hmm |
19:53.34 | sb|work | i think your theory is partly true |
19:53.43 | sb|work | true for melee, not true for casters |
19:54.05 | sb|work | mage 23k arcane blast on shield... thats no normal damage (without empowered) |
19:55.06 | Antiarc | And he didn't have empowered? |
19:55.43 | Antiarc | It should be easy enough to parse out of a log, really |
19:56.54 | sb|work | hm yea |
19:58.20 | Antiarc | Heck, I'll bet I can pull it out of a WoL parse |
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20:15.40 | yoshimo | alo0exdefend spams in the comments on curse |
20:15.52 | Ingela^ | Fisker, where are you from |
20:16.14 | Xtek | yoshimo: hook me up with al ink so I can ban them |
20:16.14 | Xtek | , please |
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20:16.28 | yoshimo | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/nvgearscore.aspx |
20:16.54 | yoshimo | there should be a report.button |
20:17.16 | Xtek | 0IP banned. |
20:17.19 | Xtek | IP* |
20:17.35 | Xtek | Comment should be gone now. |
20:18.22 | Xtek | Uhh, or cache invalidation can fail... that too. |
20:19.14 | Xtek | There, gone. :) |
20:19.54 | yoshimo | what is this strange website? phishing? |
20:20.36 | Ingela^ | no it's a mining addon |
20:20.39 | Ingela^ | hheheehehehehehe |
20:20.57 | pompy | yeah so far they have a mining and fishing addon |
20:21.11 | Xtek | It's been happening for a while now. I'm not a dev on Curse.com just other shit... wish I could fix it. |
20:21.18 | Xtek | Sorry :( |
20:21.27 | Antiarc | WTB repo being fixed :( |
20:21.59 | yoshimo | so is it a paid gathermate or a bot, or wtf do they want to give you. im not sure if i understand them |
20:22.16 | Xtek | Antiarc: I ran out of food to feed it, sorry. |
20:22.55 | Ingela^ | that's mean |
20:24.23 | yoshimo | xtek, so it would help to file a ticket to get a reportspamhere-button? |
20:24.52 | Xtek | This is how it works. |
20:25.13 | yoshimo | which project? |
20:25.14 | Xtek | If you report someone it makes a thread in a forum only Mods/Oranges can see, if we ban them if removes (hides) all posts/comments by that person. |
20:25.36 | Xtek | So only 1 report is needed. |
20:28.59 | Bribri | what if the spammers spam the report button to flood the restricted forum? |
20:29.42 | Xtek | you just divided by 0 |
20:29.59 | Bribri | the war that can never be won =x |
20:36.50 | Antiarc | Is there a mod that'll collapse stacks in the guild bank? |
20:37.23 | NeoTron | is there a good guild bank mod? I have lots of bank alts with guild bank but I hate using the thing |
20:37.33 | Antiarc | I wrote a mod to search the gbank |
20:37.38 | Antiarc | But I need one to collapse/sort items |
20:37.40 | yoshimo | does krestack do it? it restacks your personal bags |
20:37.56 | Antiarc | "Simple, low profile addon for quickly and automatically compressing your bag, bank, or guild vault inventory item stacks" |
20:37.57 | Antiarc | Guess so! |
20:39.22 | Zeksie | svn dead? |
20:39.31 | Antiarc | yes |
20:39.33 | Zeksie | k |
20:39.33 | Antiarc | git too |
20:40.14 | Xtek | Blame Spaghetti cat. |
20:41.38 | Gagorian | Does lilsparky use IRC? |
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20:42.27 | nevcairiel | slap ckknight until he responds and fixes it! |
20:43.02 | Antiarc | ckknight: fix repo plz |
20:44.29 | ckknight | howdy. |
20:44.33 | Xtek | he's feeding spaghetti cat |
20:45.35 | Antiarc | ckknight: git/svn aren't responding |
20:45.52 | Antiarc | Also, wtfs, 9 abyssal shatters and 19 GCEs. No dust. |
20:46.31 | Megalon | Antiarc: bankstack + /sort guild1 ? |
20:46.41 | Antiarc | If that works, yay |
20:47.08 | NeoTron | some people love to manually sort things. I hate it |
20:49.20 | Megalon | yes it does, also didn't know about it in the beginning because 'sort bank' shortcut does not work when guildbank is open |
20:49.25 | Megalon | but the slashcommand works |
20:54.17 | Antiarc | http://www.flickr.com/photos/shaireproductions/3991253516/ |
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21:04.04 | Funkeh` | is svn down for anyone else |
21:04.31 | pompy | Funkeh`: yeah its all down |
21:04.36 | NivFreak | wait, guild bank sorting addon? |
21:05.12 | pompy | NivFreak: Genie sorts the gbank |
21:08.57 | NivFreak | nice |
21:09.38 | fewyn | bankstack sorts the gbank too |
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21:27.01 | Mec | is the repo hosed? |
21:27.11 | Antiarc | Still, yes |
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21:31.12 | yoshimo | last commit was 2h ago, i broke it ;) |
21:31.32 | Antiarc | I have a tag to push >:| |
21:32.03 | CrazyBenny | <PROTECTED> |
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21:34.40 | Gagorian | Anyone used Ace3 DrDamage yet? |
21:35.21 | Ingela^ | yes |
21:35.25 | Gagorian | As I have received no complaints yet I take it that it's working :D |
21:36.05 | Ingela^ | is it the newest beta release that you can download from curse Gagorian ? |
21:36.08 | Ingela^ | if so yes then i have |
21:36.12 | Ingela^ | and it's working perfectly fine for me :) |
21:37.59 | Megalon | Antiarc: when I hit readiness on my hunter sexycooldown does not noticed that the cooldowns are reset |
21:38.25 | Antiarc | Megalon: Bah, I'm gonna have to go spec prep and figure out what's up then |
21:38.36 | Ingela^ | oh yeh Antiarc rapture is working |
21:38.56 | Antiarc | holy balls :O |
21:38.57 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgo0CDL6bd0&feature=player_embedded#t=35 |
21:38.59 | Gagorian | Ingela^: Yeah, newest beta |
21:39.11 | Ingela^ | yes it's working then for me =) |
21:39.52 | Megalon | rapid fire stayed on the bar |
21:39.59 | Megalon | and even after I used it the second time |
21:40.08 | Megalon | it did not update to the new value |
21:40.10 | Ingela^ | Antiarc, is she stuck or something? |
21:40.18 | Antiarc | stuck? |
21:40.27 | Ingela^ | yeh why is she screaming like that |
21:40.30 | Antiarc | Megalon: The events must not be firing properly. This'll be fun :V |
21:42.05 | Gagorian | Ah, good thing as I never playtested it :p |
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21:45.16 | Gagorian | Grr, repo still down and I'd need to commit |
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21:45.47 | Ingela^ | repo is gonna crash when it comes alive because everyone wanna do new commits :D |
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21:45.55 | Antiarc | It's been down for a number of hours now :/ |
21:45.59 | Balreign | Gagorian, it works for me but I need to check if datas are correct. |
21:46.58 | Balreign | (I mean bitwin the value of the estimated dmgs and the real ones) |
21:47.02 | Megalon | Antiarc: http://paste.wowace.com/1282/ bugsack was quite full of those 2 |
21:47.44 | Gagorian | Balreign: That shouldn't have changed, so if it was correct before should be now |
21:47.50 | Gagorian | But always good to check :p |
21:48.23 | Antiarc | Megalon: That should be fixed in the latest |
21:48.52 | Megalon | oh |
21:48.57 | Balreign | I had few differences before, but it was close |
21:49.21 | Megalon | updated before logging in a view hours ago, but i see, 5.3.6 :o |
21:49.55 | Antiarc | Alpha or release? |
21:50.07 | Gagorian | Balreign: You can report even small differences as long as I get precise information |
21:50.10 | Gagorian | The goal is spot on accuracy |
21:51.21 | Gagorian | If nobody tells me something is wrong, I can't improve it |
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21:51.46 | Balreign | I'll take a closer look the next days. But few difference can also came from the mobs armors so... |
21:52.28 | Gagorian | Yeah, for physical attacks spot on accuracy can't be expected |
21:52.44 | Gagorian | But for spells it's possible |
21:55.12 | Balreign | I'll focus en that the next days. I'm playing both an elemental shaman and a balance druid. I'll tell you what. |
21:57.01 | Gagorian | Usually the issue is that talents stack in another way than expected, so if you have double talent specs etc, it's possible to track down what talent causes the problem |
21:57.38 | Gagorian | Or possibly base coefficient inaccuracy, so if it's still wrong with no talents, that's the likely culprit |
21:59.33 | Gagorian | Of course both shaman and druid have relics complicating matters, as the way they're calculated usually makes no sense :P |
21:59.33 | Balreign | I've only one spec per toon, but I'll try. |
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22:20.47 | Antiarc | Why is repo still down :( |
22:22.59 | Aeyan | I dunno. |
22:23.41 | Xtek | It's on vacation. |
22:25.33 | Balreign | huhu |
22:25.40 | asmodai | Antiarc: Why, with sexycooldown, do the numbers on the bar shift closer together when you expand the bar vertically? Shouldn't they just stay in the exact same spot? |
22:26.04 | Antiarc | asmodai: Huh, do they? It's a bug if so. |
22:26.04 | [Ammo] | asmodai: the space time continuum doesn't allow for them to be closer |
22:26.21 | asmodai | Antiarc: Yea, and further apart when making the vertical size smaller |
22:26.29 | Antiarc | What bar orientation? |
22:26.44 | Antiarc | Oh, I see why |
22:26.46 | asmodai | Antiarc: default |
22:27.19 | Antiarc | It's because I set the usable bar length to (length - height), so that icons end up not quite overlapping the far edge |
22:28.02 | Antiarc | I could cut that by half, I suppose |
22:28.19 | Antiarc | (It also helps with the number positioning |
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22:38.00 | harl | my game's like having hickups or something today every time i'm in an instance and people are in-combat.. |
22:40.47 | Gagorian | Checked CPU profiling on addons? |
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22:58.07 | harl | nope |
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23:32.13 | Antiarc | Repo's still gone. :/ |
23:34.55 | Ingela^ | RIP Repo =( |
23:39.47 | quiescens | ): |
23:41.09 | harl | which add-on should i use for cpu profiling? |
23:41.19 | Antiarc | AddonProfiler is good |
23:42.05 | harl | how do i make addonprofiler show cpu times? |
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23:44.22 | harl | i've already had addonprofiler, but letting it "profile" (for 120 seconds) ain't having it show any additional information afterwards |
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23:48.23 | Shadowed | You probably should enable CPU profiling then? |
23:48.43 | taleden | also remember that after turning it on, you have to reloadui for it to take effect |
23:51.43 | harl | thanks. didn't know i had to reload. |
23:52.55 | Shadowed | "Enables CPU profiling, you will need to do a /console reloadui for this to be enabled." |
23:52.59 | Shadowed | tooltips = win |
23:57.24 | Ingela^ | anyone worked with candybars? |
23:58.22 | Ingela^ | like, everytime it's numbers like 10, 9, 8 and so on the label goes 1px to the left everytime? why? O.o |
23:58.57 | Ingela^ | it's np when it's 9,8 or 9,5 but when it comes to 9 bam label goes 1px left |
23:59.34 | Antiarc | Anchoring and unequal number glyph widths? |
23:59.45 | Antiarc | Try a fixed-width font and see if that fixes it |