IRC log for #wowace on 20091008

00:00.48Balreignrepo is an eggdrop?
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00:02.23ArrowmasterClassno
00:02.23rubiklooks like supybot
00:02.26ArrowmasterClassits a supybot, which is severly broken
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00:03.01Balreign^^
00:03.29ArrowmasterClassgo google "supybot excess flood"
00:04.48BalreignI'm on it. Interresting.
00:05.57DaemonaAntiarc out of curiosity, what addon did you write that lib for?
00:06.30AntiarcDaemona: None in particular
00:12.57Ingelathe lib is awesome that's what it is though
00:14.45Daemonayeah, sparked a hope of a refreshed "InternalCooldowns" ;)
00:15.00AntiarcWell, InternalCooldowns is a little stub mod I wrote that uses it
00:17.04Daemonait sadly is redundant if you run something like procodile alongside :/
00:19.00Daemonawho the f*ck put the addon "Prospect" in the rogue category, it's a rightclick prospect ore addon
00:21.14ArrowmasterClassthe author?
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00:26.30Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.4 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits]
00:26.33Repof4d1208: Fix custom animation var names
00:26.37Repo8a4eb50: Parent cooldowns to their bars on acquire
00:26.41Repo92ed65c: Add inactive alpha with fade
00:26.45Repo4fc4b5a: Shorten the delay on the pulse a bit so that the user gets into in a timely fashion
00:26.49Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 04v0.4 * 8a49261 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.4
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00:28.52AntiarcAeyan: --^
00:33.44IngelaAntiarc, wtb sct message like "Penance is ready!"
00:34.03AntiarcIngela: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/internal-cooldowns.aspx
00:34.06AntiarcThat does it. :P
00:34.25AntiarcAlthough
00:34.35AntiarcGet MSBT
00:34.37AntiarcIt does that natively
00:36.30Ingelamsbt?
00:36.49AntiarcMik's Scrolling Battle Text
00:36.56AntiarcAwesome SCT mod
00:37.01StanzillaAdamar-Curse: cc4 could support that progress bar feature in the taskbar on windows7 :)
00:37.47BalreignI've tryed it ... I found Parrot a lot better
00:37.58ArrowmasterClassparrot is a lot worse
00:38.23Ingelaisn't parrot using alot of memory
00:38.35Balreignnot that much
00:38.41ArrowmasterClassprobably, it uses rock
00:38.46ArrowmasterClasswhich makes it the worst
00:39.09Balreignparrot is ace3
00:39.11AntiarcParrot is brutal on your CPU
00:39.20ArrowmasterClasssince when
00:40.12ArrowmasterClassits still using Deformat which is still bad
00:40.48Balreignsince version 1.10
00:41.31Balreignthat means since the 15 of september :p
00:42.20StanzillaAdamar-Curse: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/vista/SevenGoodiesTaskbarStatus.aspx < like that
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00:59.34AeyanAntiarc: Huzzah!
01:01.24IngelaAntiarc, rapture did not work
01:02.17AntiarcThe lib might not have packaged yet
01:02.57ShadowedI hate Blizzard
01:03.10Shadowedand their mechanic changing that will most likely not follow standards
01:03.16Shadowedthat will then require 1000 lines to handle
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01:03.39ArrowmasterClassthey have no standards to follow
01:04.01ShadowedCloser standards than they usually "follow"
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01:08.59Ingelahmm Antiarc, think i made a little misstake here, i linked you wrong rapture i linked the talent, not the procc.. the procc is id 47755 which i have in my rapture tracker and it works fine, though if i just change that in data.lua it still doesn't work :S
01:10.27AntiarcI'll have to do some testing
01:11.49Ingelasure i'm here if you want it tested
01:18.23Ingelai just gave a random 1k gold, he said he had 1g and 17s
01:18.29Ingeladamn i feel used
01:20.27AntiarcGet TinyTip_Wealth and know for sure! :P
01:23.54WobWorktinytip_wealth?
01:24.13AntiarcIt basically yanks a target's "max gold acquired" stat, which happens to be their gold at time of login
01:24.23AntiarcSo you can hover over someone and see approximately how much dough they have
01:24.47Ingelayeh, nice!
01:24.50Ingelai'mma download it
01:25.08Ingelaand i'm going to se him with 20000k or something
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01:26.51WobWorkIngela: that sounds more depression inducing than excitement =P
01:27.17Ingelahaha no it was acually true, he now has 508g
01:27.30Ingeladid he send some gold to some alt or something directly wtf
01:27.50Ingelahe probebly borrowed some gold from someone that bastard
01:32.18AntiarcIngela: It shows his gold when he logged in
01:32.24AntiarcSo if he hasn't relogged it wouldn't show your contribution.
01:32.31Ingelaoh yeh!
01:39.55Ingelaomg poeple running around with average like 2k gold
01:39.56Ingelawtffffffff
01:40.07Ingelahow can they be so low on gold
01:40.14CodayusHeh
01:40.35Ingelai probebly just found the best toy ever though :D
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02:05.13Repo10sdkp: 03NevetsNeirbo * r195 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added function to export presence to text format.
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02:29.37BalreignAntiarc, I was wondering if you could add an option to hide the bar while player regen and no cooldowns running?
02:30.05Balreignfor sexycooldown
02:31.01AntiarcBalreign: There's an "Inactive Alpha" in the latest release
02:31.11AntiarcSet that to 0 and the bar disappears while there are no active cooldowns
02:32.53Balreignoh thanks
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03:06.57PrimerShefki: You know what would be nice in PB4? Right click, hide this frame
03:07.20Primerfor those people who are "in the raid", but on alts/mains
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03:07.24Primerbut offline
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03:12.20ShefkiPrimer: I'm not adding any clicks that do any configuration.
03:12.46ShefkiPrimer: It fucking sucked in PB3.  People will accidentally do it while in combat and hten the frame would disappear after they leave combat.
03:12.58Primerwell, the goal was to force specific group configurations, sure
03:13.06ShefkiOr people would do it and hten have no idea how to get the frame back.
03:13.29ShefkiPrimer: Can't be done.
03:13.34Primerok, just a thought
03:13.43ShefkiThere's no good way to introduce that stuff into the state code.
03:13.55ShefkiThe state code is actually secure code now and we're pretty limited on what we can do.
03:14.27Primerunderstandable
03:24.14Fiskerbrrs all over Antiarc
03:29.59Groktarpenetrates Fisker's anus
03:30.06Groktardiscovers an enlarged prostate
03:31.18Fiskeryou're dead to me
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03:33.37Antiarchttp://i33.tinypic.com/11qq1pk.jpg
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03:37.29PrimerHow about an option: Hide if offline for > (configuration for number of seconds or minutes)?
03:39.14Fiskerbah
03:39.53Fiskerwhy did Blizzard have to fuck up a perfect system?
03:40.58Fiskertell me or i'll kill you Antiarc
03:42.13AntiarcFisker: what
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03:48.15FiskerAntiarc they removed hard mode instances
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04:05.06ripdogdoes anyone know if bigwigs will be getting text output redirection any time soon? my eyes hurt from trying to see those default messages :(
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04:05.39NeoTronseems to be like icecrown is a step backwards
04:05.42NeoTronin that respect
04:06.44Fiskeryeah
04:07.02FiskerIt was awesome with ToTC because you could focus on gearing up while still doing hardmodes
04:08.42Fiskerand it's also kinda open to abuse
04:09.00FiskerWell obviously you can't just clear up to Arthas and put it on hard and expect to win
04:09.23FiskerBut there's probably bosses where the fight is easy enough to do hardmode
04:09.30FiskerWhich skips the concept of gateway bosses
04:11.11WobWorkremoved hard mode?
04:11.28WobWorkugh
04:11.43Fiskerno
04:11.48FiskerThey just removed the instance
04:12.11FiskerSo instead of normal and heroic raids it's just one raid with a switch to toggle hardmodes
04:12.28FiskerWhich first of all seems really out of place, and second of all feels like a bad idea
04:12.45NeoTronFisker: well it becomes like ulduar
04:12.48WobWorkso it's an overall switch instead of a boss specific toggle
04:12.56WobWork?
04:13.00Fiskeryou can switch it on and off as you want
04:13.05NeoTronit's identical to ulduar except with a UI swith instead of some more or less obscure activation
04:13.09FiskerTake one boss on hard, take the next on normal etc.
04:13.14WobWorkah
04:13.23FiskerNeoTron and like ulduar sucked
04:13.28NeoTronyes it did
04:13.41NeoTronone reason my guild crashed and burned. it sucks for guilds that raid less but want to make progress
04:13.51WobWorkcause you hit a wall
04:14.35Fiskerthat's what i liked about TotC
04:14.50Fiskereven though it only had 5 bosses it was pretty awesome in the whole raiding aspect
04:14.52NeoTronWobWork: beause you either work on hard modes or get loot
04:15.08NeoTronand if you work on hard modes, you risk not finishing the instance since for obvious reasons early hard modes are easier typically
04:15.17FiskerFor example it did progress based on skill rather than time
04:15.22NeoTronwe lost a tleast once yogg due to miscalculation, accounting for a bad wipes
04:15.24FiskerWell that is if you had time for 50 tries
04:15.26NeoTronvery bad for morale
04:17.22NeoTronso did they nerf deep breath? seems like it's a much smaller area now
04:17.58FiskerFrom classic to the revamp? yeah
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04:19.50NeoTronnot a bad change per se
04:19.52NeoTronthe classic version was so hard to even see, not to mention avoid :P
04:26.01jnwhitehhttp://apidiff.pastey.net/126218
04:29.39quiescensit wasn't that bad avoiding it
04:29.58quiescensbut, I'll agree you were pretty much avoiding nothing
04:30.35quiescensyou just had to know where it was without having to see it
04:39.58Shadowedoooo interesting jnwhiteh
04:40.02Shadowedlooks like we can stop totems from showing
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04:59.21Shadowedhrm who is that jerry is in IRC again
04:59.22ShadowedToadkiller?
04:59.59AeyanThink that's Azethoth
05:00.14ShadowedOh right, jerry is jerry, Toadkiller is Azethoth
05:00.14ShadowedI think
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05:09.26TorhalShadowed: You are correct.
05:09.33Shadowedoops
05:09.35Shadowed~seen jerry
05:09.36purljerry <i=jerry@unaffiliated/cerise> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2d 12h 1m 5s ago, saying: 'sendmail_path == which sendmail or what?'.
05:12.08ShefkiFisker: ToC is a horrid instance.  Clearing the same stuff 4 times in a week is horrible.
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05:34.22asmodaiAntiarc: Nice added touch when you try to use an ability on cooldown
05:43.30quiescensdoes it explode
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05:45.22durcynTorhal: ffff why isn't there a 'duplicate' rejection category for crap like freehat :/
05:49.25asmodaiquiescens: No :)
05:49.27Shadowed@project freehat
05:49.28RepoShadowed: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/freehat/. Free Hat. Game: WoW. raum (Manager/Author). Updated: 6 hours ago
05:49.38asmodai@describe sexycooldown
05:49.39Repoasmodai: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexycooldown/. SexyCooldown. SexyCooldown is a multi-bar logarithmic cooldown tracker
05:49.57ShadowedSexyCooldown, made by that dude who made that other mode
05:50.00Shadowed-e
05:53.26WobWorklogarithmic?
05:55.12asmodaiaye
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05:57.38quiescenslol
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06:04.40orionshockis Mikk arround / awake?
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07:50.07mitch0what's this silcence in here?
07:50.34[Ammo]Ssst.. we're hunting wabbits
07:50.52mitch0ah, that
07:51.03mitch0isn't it the wumpus season?
07:51.23[Ammo]ssst, you're scare the wabbits
07:51.40[Ammo]see, one ran already
07:56.49Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6531 Plugins/Proximity.lua: fix obscure error for Draenei hunters ;)
07:58.32asmodaiBibi: If you still live in .fr, you're sleeping schedule is seriously messed up. ;)
07:58.41asmodais/you\'re/your/
07:58.41Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6532 / (2 files in 2 directories): enable broadcast for raidofficers
07:58.54Bibiyes
07:58.54Bibi^^
07:59.02asmodaiBibi: Or do you work nights? ;)
07:59.11BibiI just live at night during PTRs yeah
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08:01.42asmodaiBibi: Hahaha, ok.
08:01.56asmodaiI know I'd be fucked up the day after if I had only 3-4 hours of sleep >_<
08:02.07Repo10battleground: 03Ammo 04r69-release * r69 : Tagging as r69-release
08:02.12asmodaiHeh, they based the rogue's T10 armour on the geist?
08:03.23asmodaiBibi: So, am I right into assuming that the warrior's T10 will change colour depending on your faction?
08:05.44Bibino idea
08:06.20asmodaiBibi: The screenshot seems to suggest such a thing at least :)
08:08.11asmodaiOh cool, they're introducing the Orc and Troll totems already in 3.3
08:09.26NeoTronso anyone else feel like the DK one looks.. about identical to T7 and T8? I mean it's different but the general theme is similar
08:09.36NeoTronskull on the stomach etc
08:10.46TNSeits a hero class, needs to be recognizeable
08:10.47asmodaiNeoTron: I still find part of the initial gear as you start a DK to be nicer looking than the higher tier stuff XD
08:11.08NeoTronTNSe: doesn't mean it has to be boring :P
08:11.12TNSeyes, it does
08:11.16NeoTronasmodai: the second tier starting gear is really rad
08:11.22NeoTronalso like the only RUNE sword available
08:11.24TNSehey, did you see the Priest buffs NeoTron?
08:11.25NeoTronwith visible runes
08:11.35NeoTronno can't say I did
08:11.37asmodaiNeoTron: Yea, although I prefer the cowl over the helmet
08:11.39TNSeNEITHER DID I
08:11.41TNSestop whining.
08:11.50asmodaiNeoTron: Yeah, runes would've been nice
08:11.51NeoTronsame
08:12.05NeoTronI don't think gear is really equivalent to class gameplay
08:12.08asmodaiI also love how Blizzard is now backing away from their initial claims of wanting to a gazillion hero classes XD
08:12.20NeoTronI think they found it to be a bit challenging
08:12.22asmodais/wanting to a/wanting to do a/
08:12.32TNSethey'll probably end up adding arch druid and arch mage for 5.0
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08:12.44asmodaiTNSe: that would be, mmm, 2012? :)
08:12.46NeoTronimho it probably would have been better to add a level 80 specialization
08:12.50TNSeyeah
08:12.54NeoTronsort of like the Aion class switch at 10
08:13.09NeoTrona lock could be a better demonist, or better nuker for example
08:13.11NeoTronI dunno.
08:13.22TNSenot needed NeoTron
08:13.26asmodaiOne thing I never understood is why frostbolt and fireball have slightly different ranges.
08:13.34TNSebecause all "demonists" woudl be demonology and all "nukers" would be destruction
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08:14.44NeoTronwhatever it is, it seems like it'd been easier and perhaps more satisfying to people if they added two or so hero specializations per class
08:15.18TNSethey are
08:15.19TNSein 4.0
08:15.31TNSewhen you put a certain amount of talents into a tree you open up a specialization
08:15.39TNSelike retardins got reduced cooldown on cooldowns
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08:18.16NeoTronok that's amusing. I'm right clicking on shit, expecting my character to run there
08:18.24NeoTrondidn't play Aion THAT much :P
08:20.38asmodaiQuests
08:20.39asmodai<PROTECTED>
08:20.52asmodaiSchweet
08:21.17NeoTronbet it's going to be "Kill Kel'Thuzad" every week
08:21.25[Ammo]haha
08:21.25NeoTronor Yogg-Saron :p
08:22.05NeoTronand with that I head to bed. nite
08:22.10asmodaiI was surprised to see my warrior @ level 11-12 fight/tank the shit out of 3-4 mobs of the same levels yesterday. Must also say that blacksmithing is much nicer nowadays.
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08:41.52orionshockasmodai: ur shitting me
08:42.01orionshockthere are weakly raid quests?
08:42.47asmodaiweekly yes, on PTR
08:43.10TNSeasmodai, get used to it
08:43.22TNSelevelling as protection is actually quite decent
08:43.26TNSerevenge is insane damage
08:43.28orionshockwell good thing that i have this "variable reset" crap all setup in SOCD and in a way to make it easy to expand on
08:43.31TNSeand if you get glyph of revenge as well
08:43.47TNSeyou can do revenge-hs and levleling as prot is fairly quick
08:44.07quiescensis it going to be a random boss
08:44.07quiescensor is it always going to be the end boss
08:44.08TNSehas less downtime than fury/arms too, so it might be the fastest way to lvl warr atm
08:44.09ripdoga random, early boss
08:44.19orionshockTNSe: is revenge proc on miss/dodge/parry/"i suck because im the same lvl as you" ?
08:44.37TNSewhen you dodge or block og parry an attack yes
08:44.50TNSebut remember, with shield, you can shield block, making sure you get a proc
08:45.12orionshockTNSe: well that makes sense, when your lvling on same lvl or higher mobs, you don't hit them alot
08:45.16asmodaiTNSe: mmm, specced some points in cruelty at the moment XD
08:45.38TNSeorionshock, when YOU dodge/parry/block
08:45.40TNSenot the target
08:45.55TNSeasmodai, take those 5 points and go prot rest
08:46.01TNSeprot is very very fun to level as
08:46.09asmodaiYeah, might as well :)
08:46.12TNSealso ganking retardins and dk's in outland is hellafunny
08:46.34asmodaimust say, getting +2 def at low level on bracers (armor vellum and enchant is so nice) also helps :D
08:46.37TNSeprot is insane vs melee classes
08:46.53TNSe(as they shoudl be)
08:46.55asmodaiHahaha, so "bring it on" really means it nowadays
08:47.15TNSealso, getting groups
08:47.18TNSeis sickingly easy as prot
08:47.36TNSe"hi I got sword n board" "oh goodie you heal."
08:47.39TNSewai-
08:47.59TNSeI levelled a warrior as prot, one as arms, one as fury
08:48.08TNSefury was possibly the fastest when it came to killing
08:48.10quiescenswhy?
08:48.14TNSebut prot was by far the most fun
08:48.17TNSearms was just tedious
08:48.30asmodaiOne thing I noticed is that getting healers or tanks is still much harder than DPSers of any kind.
08:48.39quiescensof course
08:48.52asmodaiPeople only seem to care about teh DeePeeEss
08:49.11TNSewhy quiescens?
08:49.16TNSeI like trying out all spes
08:49.21TNSeI levelled a paladin 70-80 as holy
08:49.31quiescensthat's not the point though
08:49.34TNSedisturbingly enough, that was obscenely effective
08:49.38quiescensI totally could not level the same class 3 times
08:49.41TNSeoh
08:49.44asmodaiTNSe: hahaha, I know what you mean! I love doing that too :)
08:49.45TNSeI can :P
08:49.54asmodaiTNSe: Also gives insight into other's playstyles
08:49.57TNSeI levelled a drudi as feral and one as boomkin
08:50.05TNSethey are about equal
08:50.16TNSeferal becomes easier in outland and northrend
08:50.23asmodaiTNSe: Mmm, I was thinking of going boomkin (balance) instead of feral.
08:50.29asmodaiEverybody's levelling as boomkin :(
08:50.31asmodaierr
08:50.32asmodaiferal
08:50.37quiescenslaserchickens
08:50.39TNSewell ,feral is shit easy
08:50.42asmodaiquiescens: Rofl
08:50.54quiescenslaserchickens are only really worthwhile after you get into outland
08:51.11TNSepre-outland laserchickens ain't so bad
08:51.13quiescenswhen quests start giving out spell damage stuff
08:51.28TNSewell, you get spp from int
08:51.28asmodaiquiescens: Actually
08:51.29TNSeand spirit
08:51.38TNSeand you can enchant gear
08:51.44TNSeits not that bad pre-58
08:51.57quiescensits not bad
08:52.01TNSe+ ion cannon can 2 shot stuff even unenchantd
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08:53.14asmodaiquiescens: my level 11 warlock already has +sp gear ;)
08:53.25asmodaigranted, it's only +1, but still XD
08:53.34TNSeworst class/spec to level
08:53.38TNSeby far, must b eholy priest
08:53.54asmodaiTNSe: I found priest hard until I could put points into spirit tap
08:53.58TNSelevelled 70-80 as disc >_<
08:54.05TNSedisc w/spirit tap
08:54.13asmodaiAnd how's that?
08:54.15TNSeit was horrid.
08:54.22TNSepenance is a poor dps spell
08:54.35TNSebasically, its not fun, its more of a grind
08:54.47TNSeits better to level as hybrid
08:55.02TNSetake enough points into holy for instant smites, spirit tap
08:55.02TNSerest in disc
08:55.13TNSethis was pre-smite glyph too
08:55.58quiescensthere's a smite glyph?
08:56.03TNSeyes
08:56.04asmodaiaye
08:56.08TNSe+20% smite damage when target has holy fire
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08:56.17TNSevery potent
08:56.22TNSeI've 2 shot retardins in pvp with it
08:56.26asmodaiI still wonder why on earth I bought a fade glyph, must've misclicked
08:56.47asmodaiwow
08:56.52asmodaiPTR copy in EU is fast at the moment
08:56.52TNSeholy fire 5k crit, 8k smite crit, instant 5k smite
08:56.58TNSeboom, no more pally
08:58.20asmodaihahaha
08:58.58TNSeit was fun
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08:59.07TNSeas over in less than 3.5s
08:59.29TNSefrom a holy priest
09:00.52asmodaiHow should I understand cunning pets btw? I see where tenacity and ferocity show as tank or dps primarily, but cunning seems a bit odd to place.
09:03.22sztanpet"useful" pets?
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09:06.38vhaarrripdog: ehm
09:06.56ripdog?
09:07.02vhaarrripdog: the only words that come to mind are "read the fucking option screen"
09:07.09vhaarrripdog: Customize ... -> Output
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09:07.16ripdogsrsly? that was greyed out for me
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09:07.30ripdogyup, still is
09:07.35vhaarrthen bigwigs is disabled
09:07.38ripdogusing svn checkout from two revisions ago
09:07.50vhaarrright click the LDB icon
09:08.03ripdogoh my god
09:08.08ripdogfacepalm indeed
09:08.16asmodaisztanpet: useful? :D
09:08.20stolen|schoolcovers his face with his palm
09:08.26ripdogthank you so much :(
09:08.42vhaarrripdog: nah, you're partly right, it shouldn't be disabled
09:08.51ripdogmight be a good idea to document that a bit
09:09.17sztanpetasmodai i dont have any idea either, im just theorizing what blizzard might think :D
09:10.17asmodaisztanpet: Hahaha, well, some are quite nice, other's I'd view more PvPish
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09:17.43asmodaiheh, launch at my university of something: http://iwill.rsm.nl/
09:17.50asmodaiSome live streams of some economic things
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09:31.51vhaarrripdog: thanks for the bug report
09:32.07ripdog<PROTECTED>
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09:45.55ripdogooh, super quick fix :) good job
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11:59.59XtekMornin'.
12:00.24sylvanaarmorning
12:00.57steevmorning
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12:06.01miicaplaa I don't get how hidden works in optiosn table :/
12:06.34miicahidden = guiHidden(1) ?
12:08.08digmouseshould I use my BN account or game account to login to PTR?
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12:08.40quiescenssteal someone else's account!
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12:09.12Pneumatusmiica: what are you trying to hide it from?
12:09.18Pneumatusgui/commandline/everything?
12:10.02digmouseI use my BN account it tells me no valid information
12:10.17sb|workbattle.net account works for me
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12:10.31Pneumatushidden = guiHidden, should work if you want it just hidden on gui's
12:10.48Pneumatusyeh, i use my bnet acct for PTR
12:11.05digmouseI'd try again
12:11.17Pneumatusdepends how long ago you merged though
12:11.26Pneumatusif it was only recently it may still only know about your normal acct
12:11.48Fiskeroutfarts Pneumatus
12:11.53miicaPneumatus: i don't wanna see my execute in config
12:12.17miicaPneumatus: but i wanna that there is command for it
12:12.42Pneumatushttp://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-config-3-0-options-tables/#w-common-parameters
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12:13.23miicaPneumatus: yeah looked it
12:13.39miicaPneumatus: but somehow i am doing it wrong :D
12:13.49Pneumatushidden = guiHidden
12:13.54Pneumatuswill hide it from GUIs
12:14.01PneumatuscmdHidden hides it from slash commands
12:14.02Pneumatusetc
12:14.19miicaok lets try :)
12:15.11[Ammo]hidden = "guiHidden"
12:15.24[Ammo]or euhm no
12:15.37[Ammo]guiHidden = true
12:15.42miicawell hidden = guiHidden ddiint work :D
12:16.19[Ammo]use guiHidden = true
12:16.48Fiskerhey [Ammo]
12:16.52Pneumatusambiguous docs are ambiguous :o
12:17.04miicastill no :D
12:17.10Adamar-CurseI sure have a day ahead, fixing these blasted CCIPM/CCIP issues
12:17.11Pneumatusthe docs read that guiHidden etc are boolean values
12:17.16Adamar-CurseClickOnce is epic file at registering file associations.
12:17.31PneumatusAdamar-Curse: you know you don't have to be admin to register file associations, right?
12:17.43Adamar-CursePneumatus: Of course
12:17.59PneumatusCC tells me i need to be admin on every startup though :P
12:18.00Adamar-CursePneumatus: I am registering them in HKEY_CURRENT_USER.
12:18.08Adamar-CursePneumatus: That is a bug.
12:18.14Pneumatusalthough the associations are registered anyway :)
12:18.21Adamar-CursePneumatus: You're missing the GUID for CCIPM, because ClickOnce is lame.
12:18.38Pneumatusaha
12:18.47miicahttp://paste.servut.us/oy5a
12:18.50Adamar-CursePneumatus: Do me a favor, and look in: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID
12:18.51miicaain't working :D
12:19.28Adamar-CursePneumatus: Just browse through those, and let me know if you see anything concerning Curse.
12:19.48PneumatusLOADS of keys in there
12:20.11Adamar-CursePneumatus: Ah. I only have 10
12:20.32Adamar-CursePneumatus: That's where I am looking for the CCIPM GUID
12:20.37Pneumatusthey all contain "Java Plug-in x.x.x_xx"
12:20.45Adamar-CursePneumatus: ALL
12:20.54Adamar-CursePneumatus: ALL? rather
12:20.58Pneumatuslooks like it
12:21.06Adamar-CursePneumatus: So yeah, you're missing the GUID.
12:21.23Adamar-CursePneumatus: That is the only thing I depend on ClickOnce for, regarding file associations and it epic fails.
12:21.35Repo10fubar-dungeondifu: 03myrathi2 * r37 / (3 files in 2 directories): FuBar_DungeonDiFu:
12:21.38Repo- Added Korean (koKR) localisation (courtesy of bladekaga)
12:21.41Repo- Updated CHANGELOG.txt
12:22.21Adamar-CurseI am just going to register my own damn GUID.
12:22.39Adamar-CurseIt's two keys and six values.
12:23.17Adamar-CurseI am just glad this CCIP fiasco is happening now in beta, and not when all 1.3 million Curse Client users upgrade to v4.
12:23.37asmodaiI just got back
12:23.55Pneumatusmore than 1.3mil
12:24.01asmodaiAdamar-Curse: I saw CC4 complaining about not being able to link ccip as a file type, but my user has the right permissions.
12:24.18PneumatusQH had nearly 1.5mil installs last i saw
12:24.19asmodaiAdamar-Curse: Is that related to this GUID I see above in the log?
12:24.32Adamar-Curseasmodai: Yep
12:24.34asmodaiAh ok
12:24.39Adamar-Curseasmodai: Fix is coming soon
12:24.45asmodaiWas wondering if I had missed something on my box.
12:25.14Adamar-CursePneumatus: That's total - yeah. In total we have over 2 million.
12:25.14Pneumatushmm, i wonder if its HKLM or something weird
12:25.21Adamar-CursePneumatus: I just meant active in the last 30 days.
12:25.54Adamar-CursePneumatus: My bad... we're actually up to 1,435,078
12:27.14PneumatusGUID doesn't appear to be in HKLM either, fwiw
12:27.44Adamar-CursePneumatus: Ok, thanks
12:27.53Adamar-CursePneumatus: CURSE ClickOnce!
12:28.50Pneumatusah, it would appear ccip aren't currently associated again
12:28.59Pneumatusthey definatly were yesterday :o
12:29.20Adamar-CursePneumatus: Cached by your OS :)
12:29.31Pneumatusand I can't repair due to not having permission, apparently :)
12:29.35Adamar-CursePneumatus: You can help me test the fix, with the test build of the client, if you like.
12:29.47Pneumatussure, ive still got the test client installed
12:29.54Adamar-CursePneumatus: That error message is wrong... I need to fix that too.
12:30.07Adamar-CursePneumatus: Ok. I will let you know when a possible fix is pushed to TEST.
12:30.46Adamar-CursePneumatus: Btw, you should see a message like this in your log file: CDeploymentUtility - Unable to find GUID in registry!
12:30.53Pneumatusyeh
12:31.00Adamar-CursePneumatus: Ok, good
12:31.12Pneumatuswell, on live at least
12:31.21Pneumatushad that in the live client log for ages
12:31.23Adamar-CursePneumatus: Yeah
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12:32.06Adamar-CurseI must have gotten 10 tickets on this CCIP issue in a 12 hour period hehe
12:32.16Pneumatusand getting the same on .898 test
12:32.23Pneumatus[2009-10-08 12:31:34 Error] CDeploymentUtility - Unable to find GUID in registry!
12:33.16Adamar-CursePneumatus: Yep. I'll be working on a fix in just a bit. Answering tickets atm.
12:33.35Fiskerslaps Pneumatus around a bit with a large trout
12:33.51Pneumatusis searching for Fisker + goatsex on yahoo. WEEE 873 hits!
12:34.00Adamar-CurseI am going to need to find an assistant of sorts to help me handle v4 tickets, before we release it...
12:34.19asmodaiHeh
12:34.24asmodaiTriaging you mean?
12:34.51Pneumatuswell, the bulk of tickets are duplicates or invalid i'd have though
12:35.08Pneumatusand people just blindly file tickets rather than looking for their issue
12:35.11Adamar-CurseYes, Triaging
12:35.25Adamar-CurseBecause we have about 20k testers
12:35.42Adamar-CurseWhen we add 500k, the volume of tickets will make it difficult to identify real issues.
12:35.59Pneumatusit also doesn't help that the ticketing system sucks hard because you can't subscribe to your own tickets
12:35.59Pneumatusso after you post a ticket, working out what happened with it is a nightmare
12:36.23orionshockthere is also the bugreport vs suggestion difference to account too
12:36.38orionshockAdamar-Curse: it sounds like your doing the CCv4 stuff?
12:36.49Adamar-CurseI bookmark this page: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-v4-windows/tickets/?type=d
12:37.14Adamar-Curseorionshock: Yeah, I am the CTO of Curse, and the creator/lead dev on CCv4.
12:37.35orionshockCTO ? cheif tech officer?
12:37.48Adamar-Curseorionshock: Yes
12:38.24orionshockah.. i've bet you've been griped at for a linux version of v4?
12:38.39Adamar-Curseorionshock: Yep hehe
12:38.41Stanzilla(now he sighs IRL)
12:39.03Adamar-Curseorionshock: If we had 100k potential Linux users, we'd make a proper Linux version.
12:39.17orionshockwell im another one in /that/ group :)
12:39.21Pneumatusgripe at the mono devs for support :P
12:39.26Adamar-Curseorionshock: It's a much, much better investment of time to make the Windows / Mac versions as good as we can.
12:39.45orionshockwell this is true.. Adamar, no question.. but still .net ?
12:39.52ripdogmore importantly, how is the mac version going?
12:39.54asmodaiAdamar-Curse: Mmm, well, I could always chip in some minutes to look through tickets to help out
12:39.55Adamar-Curseorionshock: Everything we do now is .Net...
12:39.57asmodairipdog: ask Kaelten
12:40.06Pneumatuseverything everybody does is .net
12:40.09asmodaiHe's hacking on the Mac client for all I know.
12:40.12Pneumatuswelcome to the software dev industry
12:40.15asmodaiPneumatus: I do Python! On Windows. :D
12:40.17ripdogI see
12:40.31Pneumatusasmodai: feel free to join us in the real world at some point ;)
12:40.37Adamar-CurseWorking in the .Net framework feelsl ike a gift from god.
12:40.43asmodaiPneumatus: No thanks, I like my work at university at the moment. :P
12:40.50orionshockPneumatus: indeed with the mono gripe. but mono dosn't really work for .net3
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12:41.08Adamar-CurseAfter having toiled away in C++ and wxWidgets in the v3 client.
12:41.09Pneumatusorionshock: exactly, mono needs to sort out its 3.5 support :)
12:41.16Adamar-CurseI had recurring nightmares....
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12:41.27asmodaiAdamar-Curse: Heh, I'm doing wxPython at the moment
12:41.45orionshockAdamar-Curse: how long with v3 support last after v4 becomes mainstream?
12:42.06Adamar-Curseorionshock: We have no plans to kill v3
12:42.15Adamar-Curseorionshock: For some users, it is a better option than v4.
12:42.27Adamar-Curseorionshock: Linux users, users on low-end harware, etc.
12:42.27Pneumatusi'd guess v3 will probably hang on till v4 can be run under linux :P
12:42.30orionshockon that note, it works with wine and linux :)
12:43.01Adamar-Curseorionshock: Yep. The main issue with v3 is that it has been a nightmare to support. The core codebase is horribly, horribly written.
12:43.29PneumatusAdamar-Curse: is v4 gonna be maintainable by anyone other than you? :P
12:43.52asmodaiPneumatus: Why? Volunteering?
12:43.53asmodai:P
12:44.04Adamar-CurseIt's vanilla .Net and WPF - so yes.
12:44.23Pneumatusasmodai: no, but people come and go
12:44.37Adamar-CurseThe backend is a standard WCF implementation.
12:44.48Adamar-CursePentumatus: I am with Curse, indefinitely.
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12:44.54Adamar-CursePneumatus rather
12:45.02Pneumatusas i said, people come and go :P
12:45.52Adamar-CurseType: System.IO.FileNotFoundException
12:45.52Adamar-CurseMessage: Could not load file or assembly 'Xceed.Wpf.DataGrid, Version=3.5.9453.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=ba83ff368b7563c6' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
12:46.04Adamar-CurseCrash someone reported. That is just awesome...
12:46.13Pneumatusand we all know what Net is like for reassigning developer time :P
12:46.19Fiskerslaps Pneumatus around a bit with a large trout
12:46.27Adamar-CurseI assign devs, not Net :)
12:46.29Pneumatussends some DDoS in Fisker's direction
12:46.35Adamar-CurseSo, I will take the blame.
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12:46.45Pneumatusso you're to blame for cf/wowace being neglected?
12:46.49Adamar-CurseYes
12:46.50Pneumatusi shall stop talking to you then!
12:46.51orionshockwhy does that debug sound like a complete "i don't know where the error is" bug?
12:47.00Adamar-CurseI wouldn't say it is neglected though.
12:47.22stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: windows just told me on startup that 'There is no program associated to open file CurseClientStartup.ccip'
12:47.36Adamar-CurseCF/Wowace enhancements are begind allocated less time than they used to, for sure. But that is a temporary thing.
12:47.50Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: Yep, I am working on a fix for that right now.
12:48.04Adamar-Cursebeing*
12:48.17stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: great, just wanted to let you know
12:48.38stolenlegacynow it told me I don't have permission to set file associations in the windows registry
12:48.51Pneumatusi guess you probably classify things that are horribly unusuable as enhancements then :P
12:48.58Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: Yeah, that is an inaccurate error message.
12:49.10stolenlegacyokay, glad you already know of it
12:49.11Pneumatusnot to mention the curse email problems that have been around for forever :P
12:49.30Adamar-CursePneumatus: Curseforge sends email through a local SMTP server.
12:49.51Adamar-CursePneumatus: Certain mail providers simply block it, outright.
12:49.54orionshockAntiarc:  ??? you have no ticket tracker enabled for sexycooldown...
12:49.59Pneumatuscf/wowace sub mails are fucked as well due to terribad formatting etc
12:50.11Adamar-CursePneumatus: Addon update notification, and other emails sent from Curse.com, go through a mailing provider. We pay for each and every email that is sent.
12:50.16asmodaiorionshock: No he doesn't :(
12:50.26asmodaiAdamar-Curse: ouch
12:50.31Adamar-Curseasmodai: Yeah...
12:50.35Adamar-Curseasmodai: It's not cheap
12:50.52PneumatusAdamar-Curse: new comment emails are hitting about 7.0 spamassasin scores still, despite us discussing it months ago :)
12:51.19Pneumatussmtpz.com are STILL sending numeric HELOs, for example
12:51.33Pneumatuswhich is just unaccepable for any smtp provider
12:51.34Adamar-CursePneumatus: Comment emails are sent via SMTP, and the SMTP provider hasn't made the changes we requested.
12:51.41XtekPneumatus: I see you've replaced the period key on your keyboard with random emote button. :) :P
12:51.45Adamar-CursePneumatus: We're switching providers, so that should help resolve it.
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12:52.38Adamar-CursePneumatus: If you know any good email hosting firms, let me know. Every single one we've worked with so far (with the exception of our per-email paid provider) has been awful.
12:52.39Pneumatusand comment emails still aren't multi-part formatted
12:52.40stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: why don't you just send them from your own SMTP?
12:53.01Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: They get blocked by Hotmail and Yahoo immediately.
12:53.14Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: We have tested it from several IPs. Setup SPF records, etc.
12:53.18mitch0shefki: ping
12:53.35orionshockAdamar-Curse: eh, contact yahoo and hotmail and have them unblock em.. blackholing a domain should be done for good reason
12:53.43stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: well, just notify the users to add you to their spam exceptions list - still better than paying a lot of money, imo
12:53.43Pneumatuscurse.com is still registered through domainsbyproxy
12:53.49Pneumatusso i'd block emails as well
12:54.11Adamar-CurseThat was supposed to have been changed...  grr
12:54.32Pneumatushttp://whois.domaintools.com/curse.com
12:54.54Pneumatusthat alone is probably enough for hotmail/yahoo etc to block you
12:55.08Adamar-CurseYep
12:55.22Adamar-CurseI just sent an e-mail to the guy who handles that stuff.
12:55.28Adamar-CurseMarked Urgent.
12:55.32asmodai\o/
12:56.03Pneumatusthe mails that come through emailcampaigns.net (welcome to curse premium, and newsletters) are both fine though
12:56.32Pneumatusaddon update notifications score a little high
12:56.36Pneumatuswhich come from the same place
12:56.56Adamar-CurseI did those
12:57.05Adamar-CurseAnd yeah, they're as good as we can make them.
12:58.41orionshockconsidering that your guys main content is all /"open source"/ stuff... arn't there free email distro programs that you can use with your own smtp servers?
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12:58.58orionshockyou've prolly already though of this...
12:59.02Pneumatusit's new comment emails from curse, and subscription updates from cf/wowace that are borked atm
13:01.59Adamar-CursePneumatus: Yep. It's on the list of things to fix.
13:11.18profalbert@Repo ping
13:12.41ckknight@ping
13:12.41Repopong
13:14.51Fiskerslaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout
13:14.59ckknighthey Fisker
13:15.07Fiskerhey
13:15.10Fiskeryou killed repo :(
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13:15.36ckknightsure did.
13:15.59stolenlegacyanyone else has the problem that the friggin hodir daily jormungars die before they get invulnerable? -.-
13:16.12stolenlegacyif my wf procs <50%, the worm's dead
13:16.21profalbertstolenlegacy: same here
13:17.14stolenlegacyoh well, last time i gotta do this
13:18.02stolenlegacygonna hit exalted today
13:18.05KriLL3what's the name of that addon that sorts the contents of you bags/bank?
13:18.23profalbertbaggins, combuctor, sanitybags?
13:18.29stolenlegacyarkinventory?
13:18.37KriLL3not diplays it sorted, actually sorts it
13:18.41KriLL3moves stuff around
13:19.11KriLL3hmm wait, combuctor I recognize
13:19.13KriLL3installs
13:19.41steevi still use mrplow cuz i don't have special bags
13:20.11KriLL3recognize that name also
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13:20.21stolenlegacyhttp://media.fukung.net/images/5097/wetf_2.gif rofl
13:20.22stolenlegacynsfw
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13:21.36asmodaipoor pikachu
13:22.26KriLL3yay mrplow = combutor was the ticket
13:22.31KriLL3* +
13:22.52KriLL3one of the main problems with starting to play wow again after ages, forgotten all your addons
13:27.07mascondantestolenlegacy: wow lol
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13:31.46asmodaiKriLL3: I know that
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13:39.22mitch0ckk: got a minute?
13:40.48mitch0ckk: 2 questions: 1) should I expect the curese-packager to work on my home computer or needs some other stuff from curse, too? && 2) how should I start it from command line ?
13:43.36ckknightmitch0: it won't really work on your home computer, since it pulls models from our database
13:43.45ckknightwhich you both don't have the connecting code nor the database itself
13:43.50ckknightsorry
13:44.01mitch0hm. makes debugging a bit hard :)
13:44.15ckknightyea
13:44.19ckknightI realize this.
13:44.26ckknightit's nonoptimal
13:45.06mitch0alrighty, I'll try to become a python interpreter and see how far I get..
13:47.02Repo10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r6537 / (13 files in 5 directories): BigWigs:
13:47.05Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
13:47.08Repo- cheanup.
13:52.08asmodaiMikk: rofl, minimap herpes? (http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14903)
13:53.45mitch0asmodai: must be bored to dig up old threads like that :)
13:54.07asmodaimitch0: 't was a link from somewhere else.
13:57.32asmodaihttp://www.wowace.com/addons/allxp/tickets/16-wrong-spelling-of-a-function-name/   XD
13:58.37mitch0eh ;)
14:03.57Mikkasmodai: well, "minimap herpes" was a common complaint before the advent of titanpanel/fubar
14:04.06Mikkevery damn addon in the world wanted to add a button around the minimap
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14:06.05asmodaiMikk: Hahaha, indeed.
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14:08.10Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 04v6.3b Beta * r319 : Tagging as v6.3b Beta. More locale updates
14:08.14ckknightRobots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel. Well, now there's a company that offers coverage against the unfortunate event of robot attack, with Old Glory Insurance. Old Glory will cover you with no health check-up or age consideration. You need to feel safe. And that's harder and harder to do nowadays, because robots may strike at any time.
14:08.29ckknightAnd when they grab you with those metal claws, you can't break free.. because they're made of metal, and robots are strong.
14:09.12orionshockMikk: u still having problems with guild craft?
14:09.13asmodaiwtf
14:09.33Wobinckknight, reminds me of the rapturepet site
14:09.56ckknighthttp://www.hulu.com/watch/2340/saturday-night-live-old-glory
14:10.17steevwtf
14:10.38Wobindamn you hulu
14:10.38nicoli_snot nearly as funny as last night's south park
14:10.38steevdk t10 helm must look retarded since its not showing up in the image of the t10 gear
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14:10.48asmodaickknight: Hulu not workee outside of the US of A
14:10.51Wobinand your lack of broadcasting outside of the US
14:11.02ckknightsounds like someone should move, asmodai
14:11.02asmodaisteev: hahaha
14:11.06asmodaisteev: A GIANT SKULL!
14:11.15Wobinckknight, -to- the US?
14:11.17asmodaickknight: Not really. I like my patent system semi-sane
14:11.18asmodai:P
14:11.20WobinDo we -look- stupid?
14:11.24ckknightwoo, America!
14:11.33asmodaiOh shit, Team America is waking up ;)
14:11.49Wobinhonestly, America is one of the last places I'd want to move to =\
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14:12.03WobinYou people scare me a lot
14:12.15ckknightI like it here
14:12.29ckknightwhere do you live now, Wobin?
14:12.36WobinAustralia =)
14:13.03ckknightah, I see
14:13.11yoshimohow often does the script award you authorrewardpoints?
14:13.15ckknight<cough>pohmmy bastard</cough>
14:13.18ckknightyoshimo: once a day
14:13.25Wobinckknight, That's "Pommy"
14:13.30Wobinand that's also the UK
14:13.33ckknightmeh
14:13.36ckknightshrugs
14:13.38WobinSeppo =P
14:13.44ckknightI just know I was raised to despise your kind
14:13.47ckknightthat's what really matters
14:13.53ckknight(my father's a kiwi)
14:14.02WobinOur nickname for Americans is much more amusing, imo
14:14.13ckknightoh?
14:14.14Wobinkiwi eh? =)
14:14.22WobinYeah, Americans are "Seppos"
14:14.28ckknighthmm, how come?
14:14.28WobinRhyming slang
14:14.34Wobin"Septic Tank, Yank"
14:14.40[Ammo]yoshimo: should be once a day, but sometimes it slacks a few days behind and updates multiple in one day
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14:14.45ckknightah, okay
14:15.02ckknightif all goes well, it should run in like two hours.
14:15.13WobinAnd New Zealand is proof positive that Tasmanians know how to swim =)
14:15.35ckknightokay, I gotta head to work
14:15.45Wobin(Actually, if I couldn't live in Oz, NZ would be a close second)
14:15.53Wobincause it's -really- pretty there
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14:19.08harlpitbull 4 definitely needs a larger input area for editing the text entries
14:21.12nicoli_sdo you not have septic tanks in australia wobin?
14:21.22asmodaiI thought pommy and limey was for UK residents only?
14:24.12Wobinnicoli_s, we do
14:24.22Wobinit is
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14:25.13Wobinnicoli_s, however, it's rhyming slang, as inherited from the brits, it tends to make no direct sense =P
14:25.18nicoli_sahhh
14:26.06Wobineg, "It's a bit of Barney"
14:26.11Wobin"Barney Rubble"
14:26.14Wobin"Trouble"
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14:26.22harlwtf?
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14:26.32Wobinwelcome to Rhyming Slang 101
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14:33.24WobinNow why wouldn't "Looking For Multitudes" give a title?
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14:35.52Ingelamoooooooooooooorning
14:36.04KnThrakMorning? Damn, I wish, it's 16:30 here
14:36.05Balreignvietnam?
14:36.22IngelaKnThrak, it's 16.30 here too ;)
14:36.23Wobin..... Jaina's face looks like Cher
14:36.33SunTsuKnThrak: it is morning, according to ugt
14:36.34Balreignlol!
14:36.40SunTsu~ugt
14:36.41purlwell, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
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14:37.12Balreignnice one!
14:38.01steevindeed SunTsu
14:39.02asmodaiWobin: Cher? Hahahaha
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14:39.12asmodaiWobin: I should take that as 'plastic'?
14:39.12asmodai:)
14:39.43Wobinasmodai, http://www.wow.com/gallery/adams-wow-gallery/2347977/full/
14:40.57BalreignCher is blond?
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14:41.54WobinI did say "her face"
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14:44.08SunTsuBalreign: Sure, Cher is blond, she can be any color she can finde a wig for
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14:44.23Fisker~uft
14:44.24purlUniversal Fisker Time, it's whatever time he says, anyone else will be shot on sight, even if it's the same time as Fisker's time.
14:45.11nicoli_slol
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14:45.15SunTsuuft is overrated, seriously
14:47.31Ingelalol
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14:50.38Fiskeryou just ordered a thousand liters of milk SunTsu
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14:51.33SunTsuFisker: Great, I'll keep it until it spoils and then send it to you
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14:53.17sb|workgiev SGU e3 already :/
14:53.45IngelaAntiarc, Interface\AddOns\SexyCooldown\prototype.lua:208: attempt to compare nil with number just got this when i used my hearstone
14:58.45mitch0bubble+hearth countermeasure installed by Antiarc :)
15:01.08Fiskerold sb|work
15:02.25asmodaiIngela: posted that on his comments page already :P
15:03.02Ingelaoh asmodai, didn't check there, just posted it here lol
15:03.04Ingelagg Ingela !
15:03.09asmodai:P
15:07.24PneumatusAdamar-Curse: got a GUID in HKCU\Software\Classes\CLSID for test, but not for live
15:07.36Pneumatus.902 and .900 respectively
15:09.16PneumatusAdamar-Curse: also now got HKCU\Software\Classes\.ccip
15:10.53Pneumatusheh, infact, the deployment url in the GUID is for the test client, but .ccip and .ccipm have the live cilent url
15:11.06Pneumatusbut have guid keys for the ID the test client is in
15:13.54Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r274 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix Option bugs introduced in rev273
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15:17.58steevwoot
15:18.00steevhttp://ubersekret.com/screenshots/ofsenjin.png
15:18.20steevthat makes me giggle like a schoolgirl since my main server is... Sen'jin
15:23.28spode-what chatfont is that?
15:24.22Repo10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r6538 / (3 files in 3 directories): BigWigs: ruRU update
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15:28.21steevi... don't even remember
15:29.26steevchatter doesn't seem to have it set, so whatever the default is... and whatever that is, i can tell you
15:29.28Adamar-CursePneumatus: Yeah, I am almost done.
15:30.28Adamar-CurseI had to run ProcessMon to see what reg keys ClickOnce creates, when it registers file associations... fun.
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15:49.01HjalteAntiarc: It appears LibInternalCooldowns is not loaded when I log in. Via Option House I can see that it is not loaded yet, when logging in.
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15:51.24[Ammo]I bet a lack of optdep
15:51.45HjalteIt says it is load-on-demand.
15:53.02[Ammo]optdep from the part of his cooldown addon
15:53.07[Ammo]it needs top optdep the lib
15:53.40durcynyeah, it only optdeps LSM3
15:53.43durcyntsk tsk
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15:55.53Repo10big-wigs_zg: 03funkydude 04r184-release * r184 : Tagging as r184-release
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16:01.14Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r642 Dalaran/Zuramat_the_Obliterator.lua: Fix localization
16:03.23Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.4-1-g4d9916d / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Opdep LibICD
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16:03.48nevcairielhe listens :P
16:04.53AntiarcIf you highlight me I'm liable to read it at some point :P
16:05.12AntiarcDear GOD the T10 rogue set.
16:05.17AntiarcWorst. Set. Ever.
16:05.28FiskerAntiarc
16:05.29steevyou don't want to look like a geist?
16:05.31Antiarchttp://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/october/tier10_rogue_hd.jpg
16:05.31ArrowmasterClassworse than the set with the pink heart on the belt?
16:05.32Fiskeri'm not gonna be part of your system
16:05.36Fiskerno Antiarc
16:05.38Fiskeroh
16:05.39AntiarcArrowmaster: Worlds worse
16:05.40Fiskeryou mean looks
16:05.55AntiarcYes, looks
16:06.04durcyntimes like this i'm glad i quit raiding
16:06.04Fiskerthe ret pala 4-piece bonus is lol
16:06.10steevand lasts 5 mins. (Up from 1 min)
16:06.13steevwoot!
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16:08.02Fiskerso Antiarc
16:08.08Fiskerjust how awesome is sexycooldown?
16:08.18AntiarcFairly so, though it is pre-1.0 awesome right now
16:09.05Fiskerso i can has dots, cooldowns, bosstimers, and buffs on it?
16:09.05Fisker:3
16:09.24AntiarcNot yet, just cooldowns right now, but the way I wrote it supports all of that
16:09.38AntiarcSo I'll be added the ability to configure it for such
16:09.39AntiarcSpawn multiple bars, put whatever you want on each bar
16:09.49Fiskercan i put a birthday cake on it?
16:09.54AntiarcSure.
16:12.17Ingelathink i never saw this much rain in my whole life O.o was out with my dogs, i'm 1% ignela and 99% wet atm
16:13.41Fiskerwhat you think i'm stupid Antiarc ?
16:16.08Fiskerdoesn't work so nice for a ret pala :(
16:16.13Fiskertoo much faceroll overlap
16:16.50AntiarcSet the max duration lower
16:17.00Fiskershow me how
16:17.02AntiarcI'm working on the overlap code
16:17.04Fiskerand i love you
16:17.06AntiarcOptions -> bar -> max duration
16:17.11Ingelamy friend whined that he raided with like 6 fps, and been doing so for a while... just saw a screenshot of his raid ui, he uses 130mb addon memory!
16:17.14Ingela130mb!
16:17.28Ingelahe raids with acutioneer and carbonite and shit
16:17.32Antiarcand/or play with the time compression slider
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16:17.40Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6539 / (2 files in 2 directories): deDE update
16:19.22Fiskerif you have it less than 30 seconds it bugs
16:19.31AntiarcYeah, I need to fix that
16:19.38AntiarcIt should lock it at 30 sec min right now
16:19.55Fisker:o
16:21.28stolenlegacyIngela: im using 91.8 right now
16:21.40Ingelastolenlegacy, WHY?!
16:22.02stolenlegacytoo lazy to reload everytime i join/leave a raid
16:23.17stolenlegacybut i can afford it with my 16 gigs of ram
16:24.22Fiskeryou don't have 16GB of ram
16:25.13stolenlegacyoh, i do
16:25.50Fiskeryou don't have 16GB of ram
16:26.32nevcairielwow doesn't particularly care for that anyway, it probably can't use more then 2GB :P
16:26.51Fisker^
16:26.53Fisker^
16:26.55Fisker^^
16:26.56durcyneach thread could theoreticaly consume 4gb
16:27.06Fiskerthrows durcyn on the ground
16:27.07FiskerNO
16:27.21stolenlegacypunches Fisker in the face.
16:27.23durcynjust like fisker's mom could theoretically consume you-know-what
16:27.23stolenlegacyYES
16:27.30Fiskerslaps stolenlegacy around a bit with a large trout
16:27.31FiskerNO
16:28.19stolenlegacytakes away Fisker's trout
16:28.21stolenlegacyYES
16:28.26FiskerNO
16:28.38stolenlegacyYES in windows seven :P
16:29.12Ingelawindows se7en
16:29.41stolenlegacymicrapsoft windoof seven
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16:30.12Ingela# Item - Priest T10 Healer 2P Bonus - After your Pain Suppression and Guardian Spirit talents expire on your target, they grant your target 10% increased healing received for 10 sec.
16:30.12Ingela# Item - Priest T10 Healer 4P Bonus - Your Flash Heal spell has a 15% chance to reset the cooldown on your Circle of Healing and Penance Spells.
16:30.18Ingelai'm not sure if these are very good or not
16:30.29Ingelai guess 4th bonus is good for a holy priest though
16:33.02sb|workAntiarc: could you add an option to disable the mouseover tooltip thingie?
16:33.10AntiarcOh, I forgot to add that, yes
16:33.41asmodaiAntiarc: Saw the comments on the wowace page?
16:34.21sb|workAntiarc: mh - when 2 cooldowns are overlapping, could you make them swap order (front/back) from time to time?
16:34.28TNSelol Ingela, the 4pc is useless for holy
16:34.30sb|workevery 2s or whatever
16:34.31Antiarcsb|work: I'm testing that right now.
16:35.15IngelaTNSe, why? coh, instant flash heal, cooldown reset, bam another coh?
16:35.25TNSe15% of the time
16:35.27TNSe= unreliable
16:35.34TNSeand 85% of the time you will be casting another flash
16:35.39TNSeand after that coh is ready anyway
16:35.44TNSeso it doesn't matter if it procs second time
16:35.49TNSeits rather useless
16:35.56TNSethe uselessness is in the unpredictability
16:36.05asmodaiKind of like Fisker?
16:36.39IngelaTNSe, you got a point
16:36.40TNSeCoH - 6s cd
16:36.50TNSeafter cast, assuming you got enough haste for 1s gcd
16:36.54TNSeyou cast a new fh
16:37.00TNSethat means, 4s of cd left
16:37.06TNSeif it procs now, you are casting fh #2 anyway
16:37.07Ingeladon't think it's useless, but yeh, since coh has so low cooldown it's not that good
16:37.11TNSeso that leaves 3s saved
16:37.21TNSebut thats only 15% of the time
16:37.34TNSein average your CoH cooldown is lowered by something close to 0.3s
16:37.47TNSeor 5% more coh
16:37.48TNSeyay?
16:38.10TNSethe set bonus assumes you are doing coh-fh-...coh
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16:38.17TNSeand lots of the time you are using prayer of mending
16:38.22TNSethats 1 gcd lost not fh'ing
16:38.30TNSeyou are often doing proh, thats 2 gcd's
16:38.54TNSerenew is often more popular than doing flash heal
16:38.54TNSeits a crappy bonus
16:39.31TNSefor disc its not horrid, but it also means that we still have no use for greater heal in any spec
16:39.48Ingelai play disc, i never cast flash heals
16:39.54Ingelaor yeh, almost never
16:39.54TNSenever?
16:40.00Ingelaunless i'm tank healing ofc
16:40.05TNSedepends on what I do of course, exactly
16:40.09TNSebut its when you tank heal penance is good
16:40.16TNSeand thats why that set bonus is kinda decent for disc
16:40.16Ingelayep
16:40.28Ingelai'm almost all the time on "do what ever you want" duty
16:40.37TNSeme too :P
16:40.46TNSetwin valks - pws w/4pt8
16:40.53TNSeetc .etc
16:41.09Ingelaso i'm shielding tanks, shielding raid, making someone survive with penance, and so on
16:41.09Ingelayeh same here =)
16:41.09TNSeI like the spec, I just wish that our heals scaled a bit better
16:41.19TNSegrace being 1 target only is a bit of a killer for our multitargethealability
16:41.25Ingelayeap
16:41.47TNSeatleast 4pt10 ain't as bad as 4pt9
16:41.57TNSeI calculated it to 0.35% increased healing with 50% crit
16:42.19quiescensgrats
16:42.23TNSeassuming I wasn't casting pws all the time as well
16:44.04TNSewish out 4pt10 made greater heal worth using
16:44.11quiescensrelying on procs for actually healin is always silly
16:44.20quiescensfor anything other than mana
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16:45.18HjalteAntiarc: SexyCooldowns Hearthstone error: http://paste.wowace.com/1273/
16:45.21quiescensblizzard needs to stop adding talents and such that are non guaranteed effects for healing
16:45.56quiescensespecially with the way things are with tanks sometimes dying in two hits
16:46.02AntiarcThanks Hjalte
16:46.02asmodaiHjalte: as well as my comments on the sexycooldowns wowace page and Ingela's comments here :P
16:46.05Ingelaisn't like exaclty that they are NOT doing in ctc? adding all talents to be "fun" talents and "increasing healing talent" is like the "talent bonus"
16:46.31quiescensshrugs
16:46.32asmodaiAntiarc: tickets are not enabled btw. If you didn't caught that message earlier by someone else :)
16:46.38Ingelaasmodai, and he got a thanks! i didn't get a thanks wtf!
16:46.45quiescensrandomness just doesn't work for healing
16:46.49asmodaiIngela: We're being discriminated!
16:46.51asmodai:P
16:47.21Hjalteasmodai: You're just jealous because Antiarc thanked me!
16:47.27Ingelaexactly
16:47.28Mikkorionshock: i forgot to upgrade so had an issue today. upgraded now.
16:47.29Ingelathat's our point
16:47.42pentium166by "fun" i assume there will be a lot of "healing spell x heals for 30% more when buff y is active"
16:47.43asmodaiHjalte: I wanted the achievement :(
16:47.50AntiarcHow do I turn on tickets?
16:47.52Mikkorionshock: and i'm certainly getting a lot more messages about receiving updated crafts
16:48.11Ingelapentium166, wouldn't surprise me
16:48.13AntiarcNevermind, it's on now
16:48.21Mikkheck it might even fix some crap i've got lying around about half the guild being able to craft horde side ToC plans (we're alliance)
16:48.21asmodaiAntiarc: thankee!
16:48.45quiescenseffects you can guarantee are okay
16:49.01quiescenslike that um, haste thingy after shielding
16:49.12TNSehehe, they could make both renew and gheal used again with a 4pt10
16:49.16quiescensnourish gaining healing based on number of hots
16:49.22TNSe"Your GH heals 10% more on targets wtih renew."
16:49.38quiescensits just, things that only have a chance of working
16:49.59TNSehealing needs stability
16:50.05TNSeyou dont see tanking talents that say things like
16:50.18TNSeoh awit
16:50.19TNSeyou do!
16:50.21TNSeghahahaha4k37%/#()
16:50.27Ingelafailure
16:50.28Ingela:D
16:50.39TNSedamn paladins
16:50.46quiescensthings like your spell crits have a chance of making a heal instant cast are annoying
16:50.53TNSemm
16:50.59Ingelawhy?
16:51.02TNSeprocs for mana = fine
16:51.09TNSeprocs for throughput = not so fine
16:51.13quiescenssure you technically gain healing per second
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16:51.26quiescensbut you can't really use it unless it procs when you actually need it
16:51.31TNSemaking heals instant cast is a loss of hps
16:51.40TNSethat heal cannot crit
16:51.45TNSeit takes same amount of time to cast
16:51.58TNSewould be more interesting if surge of light was
16:52.09TNSeyour spell criticals has a 50% chance of making your next spell a critical
16:52.15TNSethat would be fun
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16:52.27Ingelahaha
16:52.29quiescensi'm not referring to that specific talent, i just mean, in general
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16:53.30Mikki piss on +crit/+haste/+sp proc effects
16:53.32Ingelai'd like TNSe way of surge of light together with divine aegis
16:53.36Ingelathat would have been something :D
16:53.40Mikkthey have an 80% chance of happening when you DONT need it
16:53.40TNSemm
16:53.43Mikk= overheal
16:53.44Mikkyay
16:54.07Mikkhaste/sp on-use is more sane
16:54.28pentium166they require less laziness though
16:54.48Mikkwell we're talking healing here
16:54.51Mikkproc effects are fine for dps
16:55.01pentium166unless you're binding it to nature's swiftness or something (which is kind of useless for haste effects)
16:55.10pentium166well, maybe not
16:55.39Mikknah i have my +haste trinket bound to NS. i figure if i needed to use NS, somehing shitty will be going on :P
16:55.40quiescensnature's swiftness is so weak these days
16:55.41quiescenslol
16:55.43Mikkhave separate key too
16:55.50Mikkyeah NS+HT is... bleh
16:55.57Mikkit's so weak it's not even funny
16:56.14Mikkit's basically another swiftmend
16:56.42pentium166well, i play a shaman so it's a bit different
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16:56.59Mikkyeah yours is a little bit less shit
16:57.05quiescensits not much better though
16:57.08Mikkthough still not particularly amazing
16:57.10pentium166yeah :p
16:57.15quiescensnature's swiftness doesn't really warrant a three minute cooldown
16:57.19Mikkmove it to like 1 minute CD and it might deserve existing
16:57.49Ingelai remember in vanilla when you had NS rotations :D
16:58.01quiescensa nature's swiftness+heal needs to either have a lower cooldown or to heal for somewhat more than it is currently capable of doing
16:58.02MikkOR make it boost the effects of the next spell a lot more
16:58.03Fiskerslaps Mikk around a bit with a large trout
16:58.04Mikklike making it 100% crit
16:58.06nevcairielback then HT was all you casted, anyway
16:58.08Mikkthen we might be talking
16:58.58Mikkaye well back then people weren't really using their classes right :P
16:59.12Mikkheavy aoe damage fight? stick the trees on HT on the maintank. put pallies on flashing the raid
16:59.18Mikkwithout BoLight up
16:59.18Mikk\o/
16:59.18quiescenswhat trees
16:59.23Mikksorry
16:59.32Mikki just say trees these days
16:59.40nevcairielwell, did we really have heavy AoE dmg fights? :P
16:59.41quiescenswhat are these paladins you speak of?
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17:00.03Mikkthe bless+automelee bots
17:00.05nevcairieli remember taking 8 priests for those
17:00.08Mikkthat were told to flash if something went wrong
17:00.28Mikkthey never did
17:00.28nevcairielgroup heal and getting-innervated-bots
17:00.28pentium166or spam cleanse
17:00.41Mikkmhm
17:00.44Mikkwhich half did properly
17:00.47quiescenswe didn't have these so called paladins
17:00.53quiescenswe had totems!
17:00.54Ingelai remember decursive spamming on chromaggus
17:00.58Mikkthey were pretty good for auras tohugh
17:02.18quiescenschromaggus was annoying
17:02.27quiescenswe had priests to dispel magic
17:02.33quiescensand, priests
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17:03.03TNSeno mass dispel :(
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17:18.05NeoTrontypical Vanilla MC raid for me - http://eongames.com/wow/screens/myui.jpg
17:18.16Repo10priorityqueue: 03Pericles * r58 / (2 files in 1 directory): PriorityQueue:-
17:18.20RepoHunter explosive shot update and added debug info to test boss debuffs
17:18.56PneumatusNeoTron: mine looked similar
17:19.15PneumatusCastParty was the shit
17:19.20NeoTronI remember out first Nef kill. people actually used flasks then!
17:19.41Pneumatusi used to use like 4 different elixirs
17:19.50NeoTronI used to use none
17:19.57NeoTronas you can see in that screenshot
17:20.06Pneumatusi used to use elixirs, food, blasted lands buffs etc
17:20.18Pneumatuslike every raid. it was crazy
17:21.02NeoTronit's funny looking at that screenshot. I remember quite a few of the people still - like their personalities
17:21.04Ingelai remember first ragnaros kill i got a flask and had 8k mana i was so proud
17:21.06ArrowmasterClassNeoTron: some people used flasks on our first rag kill, mage with spellpower flask got top damage followed by me without a flask
17:21.34Pneumatusdouble fire res pots for rag kills as well
17:21.42NeoTronback then I couldn't afford to use consumables
17:21.49NeoTronas you can see in that sshot I had like 1 pot :P
17:21.55Mikki used _everything_. and i mean _everything_.
17:21.58Mikkif there was a buff, i was using it
17:22.00Pneumatusback then i made stupid amounts of gold on stonescale eel
17:22.01Mikkand usually raping meters
17:22.14ArrowmasterClassyeah back then i pvped just to keep officer status for the cheap health/mana pots
17:22.39ArrowmasterClassthe hp flask was also expensive as hell
17:22.51Pneumatusmax level fishing in azshara before stonescale got put into pools
17:23.02ArrowmasterClassbut our tanks used them a lot
17:23.12Pneumatusyeh, they were expensive because they needed stonescale :)
17:23.39ArrowmasterClasslike 30 stonescale
17:23.47Pneumatussomething stupid like that yeh
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17:24.55ArrowmasterClassi remember when our MT lost a bet and refused to 'snort blow off a hookers ass' because his wife would object
17:25.34Pneumatusmy first ever vanilla raid leader was probably worse than the onyxia wipe night guy
17:25.41ArrowmasterClasswhen we managed to get our first green dragon kill in a pure guild raid in the middle of the night, and it was the hardest one too emeriss
17:26.35pschrinerhttp://www.circulus-vitiosus.org/xtovort/WoWScrnShot_030906_235226.jpg < right before our first ragnaros kill.... about 1/4 of the players are still playing and I keep contact, though I have never been in there guild
17:27.06nevcairieli probably still have the videos from our first ragnaros and onyxia
17:27.17nevcairielthose were good times, we really celebrated in TS
17:27.25nevcairielthese days.. its just.. oh, we managed
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17:27.44Pneumatusthe only real boss kill celebration we've had in a long time was mimiron hard
17:29.02NeoTronI remember sitting up till like 5-6 am trying to kill Emeriss our first time, and failing
17:29.19stolenlegacypschriner: who the heck still plays on localized clients?^^
17:29.30quiescensi don't know
17:29.39quiescenseven in those days, first kills were pretty much
17:29.45quiescens"good work guys"
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17:30.21Pneumatusanub is probably gonna be a kill worth celebrating, but the rest of 25 heroic is a walkover
17:30.26NeoTronthe end bosses counted
17:31.12quiescensthe other thing about those days was how bad tanks were in general
17:31.21NeoTronwe also got the server first legendary, which of course was a matter of drop luck
17:31.22Pneumatushow bad everyone was in general
17:31.28Pneumatusbut tanks were especially notcably poor
17:31.33NeoTronI wouldn't say so
17:31.48NeoTronI'd say the classes themselves were worse and also people didn't really care about dps and such
17:32.01NeoTronand remember, no threat meters combined with no taunting and much worse threat gen overall
17:32.04ArrowmasterClassi still have the video of our first rag kill where the guy taking the video got the MT killed
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17:32.23ArrowmasterClasssilly enchance shaman
17:32.33Pneumatusenhance shamans in vanilla :o
17:32.44ArrowmasterClasshe was the tanks totem bitch
17:32.49Pneumatusah
17:33.02quiescenshow did they get the mt killed
17:33.12NeoTronI also liked how, in a 40 man raid, we had 3 warlocks.. and often only 2
17:33.18Pneumatusyou will have missed out on OOC pallies that spent whole raids buffing and ressing then
17:33.19ArrowmasterClasshe went into melee rag at 1 or 2 %
17:33.35nevcairieli remember that Pneumatus, such an exploit to the game
17:33.44NeoTronPneumatus: I was an ooc priest in a few fights
17:33.46ArrowmasterClassactually im not sure if the MT got killed but he got knocked back
17:33.47quiescensi don't get it
17:34.05NeoTronnevcairiel: wasn't an exploit man, it was by design. bad design but design never the less
17:34.14Pneumatusnevcairiel: so was button mash dispelling, but then enounters demanded it
17:34.25nevcairielencounters didnt really demand ooc-ressing
17:34.27NeoTronthey didn't only demand it, they were designed for it
17:34.30nevcairielwe just sucked
17:34.45Pneumatusstuff like baron geddon though, you basically were gonna die if you got the bomb
17:34.47Pneumatusso ooc res
17:34.58ArrowmasterClassshazz was a lot easier with an OOC reser
17:34.58NeoTronthat's the only place we used it
17:35.15stolenlegacynevcairiel, you know if you're gonna have enough time to look into srf anytime soon?
17:35.18quiescensgeddon's bomb wasn't that bad was it?
17:35.20ArrowmasterClassalthough i think our best shazz kill was with 18 people
17:35.23nevcairielstolenlegacy: not likely
17:35.28Pneumatusgeddons bomb throws you up in the air
17:35.32Pneumatusyou die of falling damage
17:35.35ArrowmasterClassquiescens: no it wasnt, unless it crit
17:35.37quiescensyeah but you stand under a thingy
17:35.49quiescensso that you hit the ceiling
17:35.50ArrowmasterClassthere were plently of spots to run to that didnt get you shot up into the air
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17:36.11Mikkwell we had healers + ranged standing in the "good spot"
17:36.15Mikkmelee on the other side
17:36.16ArrowmasterClassbut it would crit for like 5000+ which was a lot then
17:36.17Pneumatusassuming you used the "stand in a big circle" technique, less than half the raid could get to a good spot
17:36.19Mikkand an OOC pally running in to rez :P
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17:36.34ArrowmasterClasswe just stood ontop of everybody
17:36.35Pneumatusand yeh, 5k crit is instagib when most people had 3-4k hp
17:36.45quiescenswe used the everyone just stands togetherish and then if you have the bomb, you run off
17:36.58stolenlegacynevcairiel: should I just commit my code to the main repo?
17:37.04Pneumatuswe did geddon and shazzrah all stood in a huge circle
17:37.08Pneumatuswith your group
17:37.17stolenlegacyit's tested
17:37.18quiescensand then if someone stuffs up, everyone dies simultaneously!
17:37.22nevcairielshazzrah we had the group in circle strat too
17:37.25nevcairielgeddon not
17:37.37quiescensactually that's not quite correct
17:37.50quiescenswe had people stacked in two groups
17:37.54ArrowmasterClassi was tempted to get all the interupt items i could just for shazzrah
17:37.54nevcairielstolenlegacy: i don't care today, so just don't break shit
17:38.03quiescenshealers, and then everyone else
17:38.05ArrowmasterClassthat rare neck and the aq40 helm
17:38.06Pneumatusback then there was far less fire to stand in :<
17:38.10quiescensthe healers got tired of getting exploded
17:38.13ArrowmasterClasser aq gate helm
17:38.14stolenlegacynevcairiel: the code worked no problem
17:38.23stolenlegacyfor me, at least
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17:38.59pschrinerstolenlegacy: I used to play on a german client, but changed to an english client once I got to use more addons - moreover back in the old days fairly little was localized
17:40.31nevcairielanyone know a web-based IM client that you can actually put in your own server?
17:40.45nevcairielsilly work firewall managed to block the last page i was using :P
17:40.53Adamar-CurseI have a test build of v4 ready that fixes the "Repair File Associations" issue and the "Unknown File Type" issue on Windows startup. Does anyone here have this issue, and would like to test this build?
17:41.10Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 04v2.1.3 * c3697b1 /: [new tag] Tagging as v2.1.3
17:41.17stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: in about 30 min
17:41.25stolenlegacydoing arenas right now
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17:43.18steevAdamar-Curse: i have the issue but sadly, im not at home
17:43.23Adamar-CurseAh, ok
17:43.29Adamar-CurseI am pretty confident I've fixed it.
17:43.38Adamar-CurseBut I want to test it sufficiently before updating the live build.
17:44.09stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: I'll tell you when I'm done
17:44.27Adamar-CurseOk, np
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17:46.20pschrinerhttp://www.circulus-vitiosus.org/xtovort/WoWScrnShot_122806_125042.jpg > http://www.circulus-vitiosus.org/xtovort/WoWScrnShot_091709_232201.jpg god my UI hasn't evolved much in almost 3 years
17:47.09IngelaWIM ewww
17:47.19Repo10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy * r654 / (2 files in 1 directory): Commiting custom statuses.
17:47.35Ingelastolenlegacy, wtb so you can see buffs and debuffs at the same time
17:48.01stolenlegacyIngela: ask nev
17:48.06stolenlegacyi'm not the author :)
17:48.15Ingelanevcairiel, , wtb so you can see buffs and debuffs at the same time
17:48.27nevcairieland why would i care?
17:48.40NeoTronbecause you're customer friendly
17:48.57nevcairieli'm not
17:49.18Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic 07Frozen_Halls * r645 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Missed adding Garfrost
17:49.22Repo- Fixed icons
17:50.21stolenlegacyMAYBE I'll look into it :P
17:52.06Ingelai'd love you until no end stolenlegacy !
17:52.45AntiarcArgh
17:52.58AntiarcSo I have overlapping frames, and their borders aren't respecting their frame levels
17:53.03AntiarcAnd idea what'd cause that?
17:53.08Ingelapay respect yao
17:53.24AntiarcSame strata, frame levels 61 and 62, 61's border shows on top of 62's texture.
17:53.42Ingelablame their parents (pun intended)
17:54.05ShadowedAntiarc: randomly change them until they work or you throw the keyboard in rage
17:54.05pschrinerIngela: I love wim, is there an alternative?
17:54.11nevcairielAntiarc: draw layers?
17:54.17steevpschriner: cellular
17:54.22Antiarcnevcairiel: Elaborate?
17:54.31Shadowed~api SetDrawLayer
17:54.32purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetDrawLayer
17:54.35Shadowedhrm
17:54.44AntiarcOoooh.
17:54.46AntiarcThanks.
17:54.49ShadowedI think you set the draw layer when you create the texture though
17:54.53nevcairielAntiarc: well textures have another layering system
17:54.58nevcairielseperate from the frames
17:55.01nevcairiel!api layer
17:55.01lua_botFound 89 possible matches for 'layer'.  Please be more specific
17:55.03Shadowedhttp://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/LayeredRegion/SetDrawLayer that one
17:55.03nevcairielwoot
17:55.09ShadowedAntiarc: ^
17:55.11Ingelapschriner, not exactly, but i use http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/forgotten-chat.aspx which has cleaner layout imo and doesn't do any addon spamming
17:55.41nevcairielits also passed to CreateTexture
17:55.41ShadowedThat's set when CreateTexture is done though
17:55.46Shadowedefb
17:55.49nevcairielcan be, anyway
17:55.54pschrinerIngela: I'll have a look, thanks
17:56.39AntiarcHow did I never know about that?
17:56.54ShadowedCause you pretty much always set it on CreateTexture
17:56.58Shadowedand then forget
17:58.56stolenlegacyIngela: tomorrow - it's 8 pm over here
17:59.12Ingelastolenlegacy, here too
17:59.27stolenlegacyheh
17:59.29Ingelaif you ever fix it though stolenlegacy i'd be happy
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17:59.50stolenlegacyI always provide quick fixes when I'm bored - which I currently am
17:59.58stolenlegacyExpect it tomorrow/in 2 days
18:00.12Ingela<3
18:02.27stolenlegacynevcairiel: author/maintainer rights would be nice so i can tell the packager that the new file is release - not alpha
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18:03.05nevcairielyou just commited it, at least give it a few hours to break down :P
18:03.21stolenlegacy:(
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18:04.30asmodaiHah
18:07.23stolenlegacyis proud of his commit.
18:09.37AntiarcDoes the draw layer trump frame layers/stratas? :/
18:09.56Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1095 / (2 files in 2 directories):
18:09.59Repo- Fixed caster module dot resilience calculation (it was probably double stacking on a few abilities)
18:10.02Repo- Added Summon Water Elemental
18:12.21nevcairielAntiarc: i don't think so, only frame levels .. but might be wrong
18:12.32AntiarcThis is proving rather frustrating.
18:12.39nevcairielhow so?
18:12.50AntiarcI have a frame that contains a texture and a font string
18:12.58AntiarcAnd I want to z-order a bunch of these frames
18:13.05AntiarcAnd I have borders and font strings showing out of order
18:13.10AntiarcTextures are just fine
18:13.13Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6540 Loader.lua: bugfix typing /bwv immediately after joining a raid
18:13.21nevcairieljust put everything on the same draw layer
18:13.29AntiarcTried it. Still goes wonky.
18:13.36AntiarcWhat draw layer are frame backdrops on?
18:13.57Antiarc(those are the misbehaving borders)
18:13.57AntiarcI'd assume that'd obey frame levels, but it's not
18:13.57nevcairielbackground or border, i would assume
18:14.11AntiarcI'd assume border as well
18:14.31nevcairielcan't you get a ref to the backdrop texture object?
18:14.57AntiarcI can get a backdrop table, don't think I can get the actual backdrop textures
18:15.06AntiarcFrame:GetBackdrop() - Creates and returns a backdrop table suitable for use in SetBackdrop - New in 1.11.
18:15.12nevcairiel!api backdrop
18:15.12lua_botFound 6 possible results for 'backdrop': Frame:GetBackdropBorderColor, Frame:SetBackdropColor, Frame:SetBackdrop, Frame:GetBackdropColor, Frame:GetBackdrop, Frame:SetBackdropBorderColor
18:15.19nevcairielhrm
18:15.28nevcairiel!api SetBackdrop
18:15.28lua_botFound 3 possible results for 'SetBackdrop': Frame:SetBackdropColor, Frame:SetBackdrop, Frame:SetBackdropBorderColor
18:15.29stolenlegacy!api GetBackdropColor
18:15.29lua_botFrame:GetBackdropColor: Returns the shading color for the frame's background graphic (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/GetBackdropColor)
18:15.30stolenlegacy^?
18:15.56nevcairielhm, can't specify the layer in there either
18:16.06nevcairieli never had such issues, tbh :P
18:17.25Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1096 Data/DeathKnight.lua:
18:17.28Repo- Now uses a spellID for desecration that works on 3.3 PTR as well (for some reason the old spellID DrDamage was using ended up being removed)
18:17.35sylvanaarseems like it would need to be below the layer that the borders are on, because borders will draw over it
18:18.10nevcairielthe background of a frame should be in background layer
18:18.16nevcairieland the borders would render fine
18:18.35Antiarchttp://i37.tinypic.com/2f0gb3p.png
18:18.37nevcairielif you have multiple of those on top of each other .. i dunno
18:18.58AntiarcI'm using a texture on the frame, because I'm calling SetTexCoord() on the texture to clip out Blizzard's borders on the icon
18:19.19ShadowedAntiarc: You're trying to get the second border of Feint to go behind Goue?
18:19.20Shadowedgouge*
18:19.22AntiarcYes
18:19.41AntiarcGouge has a frame level of 10, Feint of 11. In theory, Feint should be on top.
18:19.42ShadowedYou using Blizzards template? Perhaps it's an issue there
18:19.47AntiarcNo, no template
18:19.58nevcairielIf the drawlayer would work with frame levels, there would be no need for it ;)
18:20.04AntiarcBoth have the same frame strata, the textures and font strings all have the ARTWORK draw layer
18:20.06Shadowedframe layering is a bitch
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18:20.23ShadowedAre you sure the border is not 11?
18:20.28AntiarcPositive.
18:20.39ShadowedTried setting it to 20 etc etc I assume
18:20.43AntiarcYes.
18:20.47Shadowedhrm
18:21.36sylvanaarcan you reparent one to the other?
18:21.51Shadowedthat would be a bitch to deal with moving them I'd imagine
18:22.02AntiarcSetpoint is independent of parenting, so maybe
18:22.07AntiarcI'll give that a go, I suppose.
18:22.18ShadowedYea but when the parent disappears, you have to then reparent it to the main frame
18:22.52AntiarcYes, which is a pain
18:22.57sylvanaarreally im just suggesting that maybe they are inherting their frame level
18:22.59Antiarcbut unfortunately, I don't have many options
18:23.02Shadowedactually
18:23.06AntiarcI'm explicitly setting their frame levels
18:23.11ShadowedThere was a bug with inheriting frame levels weren't there in general?
18:23.22ShadowedI'm pretty sure AceGUI-3.0 had this issue
18:23.23nevcairielthat was fixed a long time ago
18:23.26Shadowedhrm
18:23.40nevcairieli dumped the framelevel fixer from AceGUI a while back
18:23.43nevcairieland nothing broke
18:23.52AntiarcOH.
18:23.55AntiarcI'm setparenting it afterwards.
18:23.58AntiarcDurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
18:24.01nevcairiellol
18:24.06Shadowed:<
18:24.09nevcairielthat will overwrite any frame levels =p
18:24.18AntiarcI'm a giant bucket of fail today.
18:24.21ShadowedDon't you love those bugs Antiarc
18:24.31Shadoweddon't worry
18:24.53Shadowedturns out I was wiping a table with it's sub tables instead of one of the sub tables
18:24.57Shadowedit can always be worse!
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18:28.30Repo10big-wigs_common-auras: 03Ammo * r143 / (2 files in 1 directory):
18:28.33RepoBigWigs_CommonAuras: hackjob conversion to work with BW3.0 acts as a bossmodule atm, needs reworking XXX marks the spot :)
18:28.51Ingelai got something stuck in my teeth and can't get it out, FFFFFFFFUUUUUU
18:29.29NeoTronPOPCORN
18:29.49Ingelaalmost, cheez cruncherz
18:30.17asmodaiNeoTron: ughn, popcorn is bad that way
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18:32.00Repo10big-wigs_common-auras: 03Ammo * r144 CommonAuras.lua:
18:32.03RepoBigWigs_CommonAuras: nasty trickery to be enabled at all times BW is enabled
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18:32.50Repo10big-wigs_common-auras: 03Ammo * r145 CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: cleanup and comment
18:33.11NeoTronI sometimes end up with steak between my teeth though
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18:36.00Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6541 Options/Options.lua: bugfix opening to the correct bossmodule
18:36.47Repo10visualheal: 03xbeeps 049.0b4 * r44 : Tagging as 9.0b4
18:36.50RepoThis brings in the latest LibWrapperHealComm-1.0, which may cure the problem with stuck heals.
18:40.01sylvanaari just got a new project assignment at work: write an updater that downloads zip files and extracts them to the correct location
18:40.01asmodaiAdamar-Curse: Nice update window for the auto-update
18:40.58sylvanaaris there a new window?
18:41.21Adamar-CurseYep
18:41.30Adamar-CurseAnd thanks asmodai :)
18:41.49Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: I figured out why you were getting prompted for updates.
18:42.13Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: It should now update on its own, without prompting you, as long as it is not the foreground window.
18:42.23sylvanaargreat
18:42.31asmodaiHeuh
18:42.38asmodaiDoes rested XP go beyond 150% nowadays?
18:42.45Antiarcno
18:42.50asmodaiThen pitbull has a bug
18:43.02asmodaiSays I'm 194.8% rested
18:43.09Ingelaasmodai, that's not a bug
18:43.12Ingelathat's something good!
18:43.18asmodaiblinks
18:45.06kadrahilso who added all the smileys to the last bigwigs update, heh
18:45.24[Ammo]what smileys?
18:45.25kadrahilwe were doing jaraxxus heroic in 25man toc last night
18:45.26sylvanaarlol
18:45.27asmodaihttp://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/rested-xp.png
18:45.30kadrahiland one of the raid warnings was like
18:45.30NeoTronso I like that the warrior T10 has little piggies on the shoulders
18:45.34kadrahilKadrahil is safe, yay :)
18:45.37kadrahili was like, lolwut
18:45.39[Ammo]oh that one
18:45.40[Ammo]haha
18:45.56kadrahiland the range finder window has a :-) in it if you aren't near anyone
18:46.01[Ammo]yup
18:46.05[Ammo]awesome eh?
18:46.09kadrahilyeah :D
18:46.19[Ammo]happy addon is happy
18:46.30[Ammo]I opted for lolcats dancing
18:46.32kadrahilmhmm
18:46.33[Ammo]but it was declined
18:46.34asmodaiThat image in my URL, that's clearly a bug, right?
18:46.36kadrahilaww :(
18:46.41[Ammo]asmodai: not really
18:46.51asmodaiBecause..?
18:46.52[Ammo]means you can get 194% more xp without going out of rested or something
18:46.59asmodaiOh
18:47.01kadrahili hope we get anub down tonight, we have 41 attempts to work on him
18:47.06kadrahil:/
18:47.22Ingelagl kadrahil
18:47.27kadrahilty
18:47.46sylvanaarwe still havent gotten twins down yet
18:48.07rubikwe noobed it up last night (10H).. wiped 4x before Anub and then one-shot him so finished with 46 left
18:48.39kadrahilwe did 10man last night, we were about 10% away from getting the 50 attempt achievement
18:48.43kadrahiland wiped on anub
18:48.47Ingelai got 0 wipes achievement last night and i got the crit+haste back!
18:48.47kadrahilD:
18:49.15kadrahilnice
18:49.18rubikouch.. yeah, that sucks.. we cleared with 49 last week.. lost the MT on first Anub try
18:49.28rubikIngela: grats.. that's nice
18:49.35stolenlegacykadrahil: wiped on 50k hp on heroic 10man with 45 tries left
18:49.37stolenlegacykilled him with 44
18:49.49kadrahilstolenlegacy: d'oh
18:50.37Ingelarubik, thanks :)
18:50.45kadrahilyeah those cloaks are nice
18:51.58Ingelayeh had 226 before so was even nicer
18:52.04kadrahillol
18:52.15kadrahili know the feeling, i still have 4 or something 226 pieces left
18:52.17Ingela226 --> 258 :D
18:52.21kadrahilhehe
18:52.34Ingelai have wand 232 and belt 226 rest is 245+ :)
18:52.39kadrahil:]
18:53.14kadrahili'm happy i have my last trophy waiting in my bags for enough badges
18:53.20stolenlegacymy cloak is 213
18:53.24stolenlegacyShawl of the old maid
18:53.26kadrahilfor 5/5
18:53.27stolenlegacyfrom naxx25 /sad
18:53.29kadrahillol
18:53.31kadrahil<PROTECTED>
18:53.52sylvanaari gave up on getting trophies
18:54.27stolenlegacysylvanaar: I usually just get mine from hc1
18:54.31stolenlegacys/hc1/hc10/
18:54.48Ingelahaha i paid dkp for them in the beginning so nobody wanted em because you could get them for free in 10man... then we changed system so they didn't cost dkp anywhere and i had 4 trophys already and they costed no dkp then
18:54.49Ingelaso win!!
18:55.26asmodaijesus, 1 point away from being able to mine silver and 2(!) nodes here
18:55.35Ingelaawh poor you
18:55.37NeoTronasmodai: that is always how it is
18:55.54sylvanaardo you have the enchant
18:56.06asmodaiNever saw 2 nodes spawn like within walking distance of each other before
18:56.28NeoTrongathering enchants are like the best thing you can get, especially for mining
18:56.33sylvanaarmining is painful to level
18:56.34NeoTronmakes it a lot easier to level up
18:56.34rubikis that GearScore addon as spammy as people say? just ran across it and was going to give it a shot just for kicks
18:56.45sylvanaari think it ranks as #1 most painful gathering
18:57.11asmodaiARGH
18:57.14asmodaianother silver vein
18:57.17asmodaiwhat is this?!
18:57.18nevcairielI didn't think it was that bad, at least you can buy stuff in the AH to help you a bit
18:58.21kadrahilstolenlegacy: yeah 2 of my trophies were from 10man
18:58.21NeoTronthing with +5 to mining, is that you gain points as if you had for example 50  in mining even though you're at 55
18:58.21sylvanaaryeah, you can smelt silver and gold ore
18:58.21kadrahil2 from 25 and free 245 gloves from vault
18:58.21Antiarcrubik: Yes, it's horribly spammy
18:58.21kadrahiland i has a couple of 258's \o/
18:58.21kadrahilslaps Elmoe_ around a bit with a large trout
18:58.21NeoTronrubik: all I know is that I had it installed even though I never did before. must have installed it after I quit
18:58.21Antiarcrubik: It acts like a P2P network, so if you get a gearscore from your party, you relay it to your guild, they relay it to their parties, those people relay it to their guilds, etc
18:58.24rubikhaha.. ouch
18:58.25NeoTronwhat exactly does it relay?
18:58.30nevcairielthe gear score
18:58.33rubikgear scores.. from everyone
18:58.34kadrahilit relays the relay?
18:58.39kadrahilit's like a big relay race!
18:58.42sylvanaarwow that disturbing
18:58.46rubikapparently there was a post in the WoW forums and the author posted to say he toned it down
18:58.54sylvanaars/that/thats/
18:58.56rubikhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20122741882&sid=1&pageNo=2
18:59.07kadrahilyeah it's kind of annoying
18:59.21kadrahilespecially how people are requiring GS now for pugs
18:59.28sylvanaarits seems like it could relay infinitely
18:59.32rubiknow only shares with guild members by default supposedly
18:59.44kadrahili don't even bother because if i go by that i have a 5.1k GS ;|
18:59.47kadrahilslaps Elmoe_ around a bit with a large trout
19:00.13sylvanaarif they have updated, what about older versions
19:00.33rubikyeah.. he's asking folks to update i guess
19:01.37rubikhaha.. comment from the curse addon page: "Due to its nature people have become so reliant on a players GS that its almost impossible for anyone to accomplish anything to get gear any more. FOr instance on my server pugs (f***en PUGS for cryin out loud) *require* a GS for 4.5k thats 4,500 for HEROICS!!!"
19:01.55nicoli_sGS?
19:02.00sylvanaargearscore
19:02.03nicoli_sahh
19:02.04rubikhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/nvgearscore.aspx
19:02.22sylvanaarlol - just send fake info to pollute the stream
19:02.33kadrahilrubik: yeah, it's so annoying
19:02.40asmodaihahah, cool, managed to find a tin one and got all three silver
19:02.41asmodai<PROTECTED>
19:02.41NeoTronsylvanaar: can't really do much more than fixing the issue and asking people to upgrade
19:03.01NeoTronobviously he didn't quite anticipate the scale of it
19:03.37rubikyeah, that's kind of how i see it too
19:03.43sylvanaarNeoTron i realize that
19:04.02asmodaiSo ,that R: 194.8% suddenly changed to 150%
19:04.13asmodaiSo yes, it's a pitbull bug in some way me reckons.
19:04.18ShefkiHonestly, I think it's getting to the point where Blizzard could replace the functionality of a couple libraries (LibHealComm) and put an end to addon communication entirely.
19:04.23ShefkiIt's horribly abused by people.
19:04.58sylvanaarwell
19:05.19NeoTronalso part of the problem is thjat addon chatter is globally broadcasted
19:05.33sylvanaaryep
19:05.36NeoTronit'd be nice, as someone mentioned, if it was limited by the server
19:05.46NeoTronso you subscribe to data only from addons you use
19:06.15sylvanaari suggested an addon channel proxy once - noone thought it would be useful
19:07.14Ingelai siad addons should have their own channels
19:07.35sylvanaarand it really isnt that much of a load - the rate of messages is very low compared to other events
19:07.52sylvanaarlike the combat log events for example
19:09.42NeoTronso gearscore is like "required" to run heroics now?
19:09.56ShefkiNot on my realm.
19:10.00rubikhaha.. not on my server either
19:10.08NeoTronas in I might not be able to go with my warlock or paladin because my gear is crap, yet I have done Ulduar 10 man, evne hard modes? :P
19:10.19sylvanaari see
19:10.33rubikwell, it's "flawed" anyway because it goes off ilevel (only?) i think
19:12.05sylvanaarwhat is the average ilvl for 4500 gear score
19:12.22NeoTronhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Adailise I still love her gear. think it's such a bizarre combo :P
19:12.47ShefkiNice ring on the head.
19:12.57PrimerI run a 25 ToC pug every week and I just inspect people's gear and never ask for achievements. Usually that suffices
19:12.59NeoTronlol
19:13.07sylvanaaryou'd hope that GS uses slot weighting
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19:13.24PrimerIt's funny seeing hardmode sword with greens
19:13.28Primerseveral greens
19:13.31sylvanaarlol
19:13.42NeoTronisn't it? :P
19:14.04rubikis guildox.com slow to update or are they not wiping 10M Strict rankings if you start running 25's? anyone know?
19:14.52pentium166have you gotten enough achievements to knock you out of strict yet?
19:14.55rubikbecause it still shows my guild 6th US/13th world based on 10M strict progression and we started running 25M pugs this week
19:15.03PrimerI really must play too much
19:15.16NeoTronmy warlock is similarily amusingly geared
19:15.17Primermy least geared 80 is pretty well geared
19:15.24rubiki thought it kicked you out as soon as 10 of your people ran a ToC-25 or 5 did in the same raid
19:15.28PrimerI have 3 80's
19:15.31NeoTronalthough not anyhard mode gear
19:15.35NeoTronhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Aminai
19:15.46NeoTronbut she has 4xT6 up to ulduar 10 gear
19:15.56Primerhehe NeoTron I remember when that toon was super geared compared to my lock
19:16.10pentium166oh, i guess that's how it works now
19:16.17Primerhttp://us.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Barfolomeu
19:16.27PrimerNeoTron: my lock (who is also my main)
19:16.29pentium166the about page says 3-4 days for a guild to be excluded from strict
19:17.39rubikpentium166: yeah, that must be it.. we did the 25M raid monday so hasn't been enough time
19:18.20NeoTronfrom a wow-heroes.com point of view, btw, my warlock and paladin are pretty much identically geared
19:19.04pentium166less competition for us on the strict list!
19:19.42rubikhaha.. i just screenshotted our guild stuff and said screw it.. let them wipe it
19:20.25steevboo my wowheroes score is only 2638 :(
19:21.10AntiarcYay, I got it working
19:21.13AntiarcI had some parenting issues
19:21.15AntiarcAmong other things
19:22.02NeoTronI'm at 2521
19:22.11NeoTronbut yeah haven't raided for months :P
19:22.20Antiarcdoesn't that just tally your ilvl?
19:22.37Pneumatuswowheroes does
19:22.41rubikhow do they score? all these sites screw me cause of the DM:G trinket being ilvl 200
19:23.08AntiarcI'm at 2790, and I'm wearing a 200 and 213 trinket :V
19:23.20NeoTronpretty sure they include things like gems and enchants, not sure
19:23.22Pneumatusits probably ilevel modified by slot
19:23.37NeoTronit's clearly not an absolute quality score
19:23.45NeoTronbut it's something to do a quick comparision with
19:23.59steevLF1DPS DAILY HEROIC MUST BE 5K DPS
19:24.00Pneumatusyou could be wearing the worst possible gear for your spec, and wowheros could rate you high
19:24.05steevseriously?
19:24.10steevits an f'n heroic
19:24.31Pneumatusif you want a half decent at-a-glance comparison be.imba.hu is the best imo
19:24.53rubikmy druid is at 2723 with 3x 219 items
19:24.53stolenlegacyPneumatus: agreed 100%
19:24.53Pneumatusspots shit like poor enchants, but it still doesnt warn on slack gems iirc
19:26.05steevhttp://be.imba.hu/?zone=US&realm=Sen%27jin&character=Steev
19:26.24steevi really hate dk's and f'n hit
19:26.32Primerwhy?
19:26.46Primerthey're OP?
19:26.53rubikhaha
19:26.53steevbecause imba says... you're over melee hit, but oh shit, you're under spell hit, get it up
19:27.04NeoTronwell
19:27.05steevand actually, they are incorrect
19:27.10steevin their over hit
19:27.22steevim over hit by exactly 6% not 3%
19:27.23NeoTronit's true
19:27.29PrimerI only recently started up a DPS set on my DK. In an alt run of Ulduar 25, I did 5.5k DPS on Kolo, and I was mostly facerolling
19:27.42AntiarcKolo heavily favors DKs
19:27.45AntiarcVery heavily.
19:27.48NeoTronkologarn is like op aoe fun stuff
19:28.01NeoTrona padding the meters fight :P
19:28.11AntiarcI pop blade flurry and just spam FoK
19:28.12AntiarcIt's good times
19:28.18Primerwell, I also did very well on the other bosses too
19:29.02NeoTronI did crappy last night but I blame it on having a DW frost spec that I tested for about 5 seconds after 3.2 came out :P
19:29.29PrimerI have DW frost spec
19:29.44steever wth
19:30.07Primerbut I have pretty decent pve gear from all the "Oh, I'll take that 232 item level thing for my DPS spec, don't DE it"
19:30.07Primererr DPS set that is
19:30.07NeoTronalso not knowing the fights :P
19:30.12steevwe've only downed 1 boss in coliseum 10 hard, why does imba say 2
19:30.33rubiki started working on gearing up my pally (ret and holy) and just finally started paying attention to plate gear in Ulduar... ALL of it has +ArPen? is that right?
19:30.50steevnot every single piece, but the vast majority
19:30.59rubiki guess i never paid attention since my main is my Feral druid but.. holy shit.. there's like nothing for ret pallies in Ulduar
19:31.16NeoTronrubik: all doesn't
19:31.41NeoTronI pretty much ahve no ArPen on morasia I think
19:33.59steevrubik: just create a filter on wowhead and look
19:34.13rubikyeah, will do
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19:35.33steevhttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=cr=147:148;crs=4273:4273;crv=0:0;ma=1
19:35.58steevyou can whittle it down to dps only :)
19:36.53steevhttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=cr=148:20;crs=4273:1;crv=0:0 <- just 25 man plate with str on it
19:37.58rubikyeah, thanks.. will make a decent list and see what's out there
19:39.02steevstr is also on tanking gear :)
19:39.11rubikright.. so i added defense rating = 0
19:39.11steevi'm sure theres a way to whittle it down further but meh
19:40.03steevtime to giggle at my horde dk
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19:40.24Megalonhttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=cr=148:20:42:45:46;crs=4273:1:3:3:3;crv=0:0:0:0:0
19:40.34steevhttp://be.imba.hu/?zone=US&realm=Nesingwary&character=Solene
19:40.36Megalonyou should also add parry = 0 and dodge = 0
19:40.50rubikMegalon: yeah, just caught that, thanks
19:40.52Megalonbecause some tank items just have like parry/expertise
19:41.14Pneumatusdead algalon, finally :o
19:41.18steevgrats
19:41.30rubikthat leaves me with... 9 dps plate items in Ulduar-10
19:44.29steevhow many do you need? you're gonna be getting tier gear yes?
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19:45.18rubikhehe.. yeah, no worries. it just seemed low compared to some other classes and their gear options but no biggie
19:46.20Pneumatusbleh, headcount needs a patch for algalon :<
19:46.44Stanzillaheadcount needs a patch for everythign :p
19:46.50Pneumatusno.
19:47.13Stanzillasomeone shoot blizzard for fucking up the shadowpriest t10 bonus please
19:47.33rubikare those bonuses even real/believable?
19:47.36Pneumatusand the t10 healing priest bonus
19:47.48Pneumatus15% chance to reset an 8 second cooldown
19:47.50Pneumatusgf
19:47.54Stanzilla4 piece bonus - Reduces the channel duration and period of your Mind Flay spell by 0.51 seconds.
19:48.08Stanzillahalf a second
19:48.10Stanzillawohoo
19:48.17Stanzillarubik: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20433763583&sid=1
19:48.20Pneumatusthats still more useful than the healing bonus
19:51.17sb|workStanzilla: what?
19:51.22sb|workerrr
19:51.26Stanzillahm?
19:51.46sb|workl2read
19:51.46sb|work<PROTECTED>
19:51.52sb|workits 51% :o
19:52.00sb|workand that is just OPed :p
19:52.29Stanzillaread my link
19:52.30Megalonand it is just
19:52.31Stanzillait got edited
19:52.32Megalon15%
19:52.32sb|workoh hmm
19:52.34sb|workdamn
19:52.42Stanzillaits fucking 0.51 seconds
19:52.42sb|workokay, 50% was like perfect
19:52.45sb|work0.5s sucks
19:52.59Megalonah 0.5
19:53.16Megalon20% haste
19:53.27Megalonnot bad I think
19:53.35Megalonor does that fuck up rotations
19:53.55Megalonif you wanna talk about bad setonuses
19:53.55Megalon#
19:53.55Megalon# 4 piece bonus - Reduces the cooldown on your Eclipse talent by 6 seconds.
19:54.31Megalontwo alternating 15s buffs, which have independant 30s cooldowns
19:54.36Megalonso you never ever
19:54.43Megalonhit the cooldown
19:54.48Megalonin you rotation :S
19:56.02StanzillaI dunno what they were smoking when they came up with that stuff
19:56.21RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dude_wheres_my_raptor/. Dude_wheres_my_raptor. scaldo1 (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
19:59.18NeoTronafaik eclipse does not have an independant cooldown
19:59.43NeoTronso now instead of 15+ seconds between procs, it'll be 9 seconds
20:01.25Pneumatusdoes/will ora3 have player targets?
20:01.52MegalonNeoTron: both eclipse buff have independant cooldowns
20:01.57Megalonbut if one is up
20:02.00Megalonthe other can't procc
20:02.19Megalonso you have two alternating 15s buffs
20:02.28Megalonwhich have both a 30s cd
20:02.38Megalonmakes no sense for them to have s 24s cd :(
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20:10.05Fiskerman that's not my dad
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20:12.44NeoTronMegalon: if so that changed in 3.2 or later
20:12.49NeoTronbecause I know it didn't used to work like that
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20:19.09NeoTronaha it did indeed change in 3.2
20:25.27Fiskerhaha
20:25.31Fiskerwow forums ftw
20:25.45FiskerBlizzard is secretly getting money for goldselling
20:25.51FiskerThat makes so much sense!
20:26.19FiskerBecause obviously why just take the whole cake by making your own gold when you can get a third party to hack accounts and give them a small piece of the cake
20:28.14Ingelawasn't there like a rumor going on that all the gold that vendors got from repairs they sold to gold sellers or something stupid like that
20:28.26stolenlegacyIngela: yeah, sure
20:28.37Ingelai think it was in the ened of vanilla
20:28.44stolenlegacyas far as I know - they instead buy anvils with that gold
20:28.52stolenlegacylike the one for the guy in darn
20:28.57Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r266 Modules/BlackBook.lua:
20:29.00RepoMake our BlackBook autocomplete complete before Blizzard's one. Make the Friends/Guild list BlackBook options affect Blizzard's autocomplete instead.
20:37.12Repo10castbars: 03xbeeps * r54 Castbars.lua: Double the maximum configurable width/height of all bars.
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20:39.25NeoTronit makes so much sense that blizzard would give repair money to the gold sellers to sell
20:39.28NeoTronreally
20:40.09ShefkiNeoTron: Well you know the gold has to go somewhere. :P
20:40.19NeoTronclearly
20:40.35Ingelawonder if they have any statistics
20:40.45Ingelawould be fun to see how much gold everyone repaired for in one week ro something :D
20:40.48NeoTronI read as recently as this week I believe how "every mmorpg supports one gold seller because it makes good business sense" (paraphrased)
20:40.58ShefkiBlizzard also conducts slavery, those hard working NPCs have to earn the gold they drop.
20:41.07IngelaWTB Shefki
20:41.07NeoTronso I pugged ToC25 last night right. OMG people ar edumb
20:41.08IngelaWTF*
20:41.37NeoTroncomments at raid end: "I can't believe I didn't get any loot!" and "I spent 70g on repairs and I didn't get anything, wtf"
20:41.42NeoTronare people really that dumb? :)
20:41.49Ingelayes lol
20:41.52NeoTronwell that question was dumb - of course they are
20:42.00ShefkiNeoTron: They probably made money.
20:42.05NeoTron25 people, 4 bosses and you whine because you didn't get loot
20:42.09NeoTronShefki: that I doubt, strongly.
20:42.12ShefkiPretty sure the bosses drop like 20g a head now or something.
20:43.16NeoTronoh I don't know. just know we wiped a bunch of times
20:43.42ShefkiI almost always make money raiding now.
20:43.53NeoTronchampions was interesting. very tunnel vision for me. all I did was to keep a DK busy until it was his time to die
20:44.33IngelaShefki, just sell crusader orbs for 800 gold too :D
20:44.44Ingelasold like 10 of those in some days now
20:44.55Ingelaor yeh over 2-3 weeks
20:44.57NeoTronhow do you get that many to sell personally?
20:45.11ShefkiBadges.
20:45.15Ingelaemblems foc
20:45.16NeoTronorly?
20:45.22Shefkiyarly
20:45.31NeoTronweird they would cost that much if you can badge them
20:45.38ShefkiI'm saving to buy a full set of Furious since I'm bad at arena.
20:45.40Pneumatus76 emblems a week or something
20:45.40Ingelai did daily everyday so i have everything i need from emblems alreayd, so just buying for emblems all the time :)
20:45.56NeoTronmakes sense I guess
20:46.03ShefkiBut I'm not too far from having more than enough for that.
20:48.42kadrahilNeoTron: the day the patch came out where you could buy the orbs with badges i made about 9k gold
20:48.57kadrahilNeoTron: they were going for 1.5k a piece easily.. they're down to 800-1k by now ;/
20:50.25NeoTronwhat kind of badges do you buy them with? Triumph?
20:50.31kadrahilyup
20:50.31Adirelleanyone trying to get on the PTR under linux ?
20:50.52NeoTronhow did you have tons of badges to buy them for when they just came out then? Or do you mean during a period of time?
20:51.28Pneumatuswasnt hard to stock up badges for 3.2.2 though so you could spam the market
20:52.01NeoTronoh so you couldn't buy them in 3.2
20:52.07Pneumatuscorrect
20:52.11kadrahilNeoTron: you did the daily and cleared toc 4 times every week?
20:52.13NeoTronok makes sense then
20:52.24NeoTroni assumed you could buy them at the same time badges were released
20:52.27kadrahilNeoTron: i had about 120 badges saved up by 3.2.2 even after buying two pieces of triumph
20:52.30kadrahilahh
20:52.43NeoTronremember, I didn't play 3.2 or forward
20:52.48kadrahilaww :(
20:52.50NeoTronI only did the 5-man once post 3.2
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20:57.30IngelaAdamar-Curse, the updater thing is on wrong monitor for me, if you don't mind, fix it! :)
20:57.44Ingelalike i have curse windo on the right, but updater bar comes on the left monitor =(
21:00.22AntiarcAnyone here used the Blizzard animation system at all?
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21:04.14Pneumatusanyone with experience on anub 25 heroic, is p3 the hard part?
21:04.35Pneumatusim assuming its not just a case of getting to p3 and you win
21:04.49ShefkiPneumatus: I'm not sure we've only managed to get to P3 a couple times.
21:05.05ShefkiYeah definately not that way.
21:05.13Pneumatuswe're getting really close to hitting p3, but i've got a feeling that's when the real fight starts
21:05.16kadrahilno, it's a big burn phase
21:05.45kadrahiljudging from 10man heroic anyway... we should be hitting p3 in 25man heroic tonight
21:06.16Pneumatusbleh, 10man is trivial, you can get to p3 with 1 burrow and 3 healers :P
21:06.21kadrahilyeah :P
21:06.22Groktaryes, p3 is the hard part
21:06.34Groktarhalf your healers can dps in p1
21:06.39Groktarthat should say enough
21:07.27Fiskerslaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout
21:07.42Fiskerwhere's our damn google wave invites?
21:07.55kadrahil^
21:08.13Pneumatusmaking a fight that mandates an unhittable tank is pretty fail though :<
21:08.27Groktardoen't really mandate it
21:08.35Groktarif you split them up
21:08.48Groktarwe're going to go back to 3 tanks on sunday
21:08.52Pneumatushow on earth do you get enough dps on anub by spllitting them
21:09.03Groktarhave to position them perfectly
21:10.08Groktari personally like 1 tank, but our rogues can't reliably tricks all 4 adds in p3
21:10.15Groktareven one rogue per mob
21:10.29rubikhow much harder is Anub-25H than Anub-10H?
21:10.33Pneumatuswhy cant they, just sit everyone on the ice
21:10.37Shefkirubik: Much.
21:10.42Groktarya, much harder
21:10.44rubikouch.. hah
21:10.48Pneumatusbut yes, its significantly harder
21:10.52Shefki25H is fucking stupid IMHO
21:10.54Pneumatusand the rest of 25man heroic is trivial in comparison
21:11.24ShefkiNever fear they'll nerf it soon enough so people can kill it.
21:11.32Pneumatusour 2nd kill this week on valks was a 1shot
21:11.51ShefkiValks is easy once you have the positioning down.
21:11.56Pneumatusexactly
21:12.08Pneumatusonce you've done it once you can do it every time
21:12.34ShefkiWe wiped a coupel times on our 3rd kill because people were stupid and kept running into balls when trying to change colors.
21:12.48ShefkiBut that's just stupidity.
21:13.15kadrahilwe
21:13.17kadrahilerr
21:13.57PneumatusShefki: you use 4 white soakers in shadowres or something?
21:14.04kadrahilno
21:14.06ShefkiNope.
21:14.11Pneumatuser, black soakers even
21:14.13ShefkiRanged take points on the star.
21:14.19Pneumatusno, white even :)
21:14.21kadrahilwe don't even use shadow res gear
21:14.22ShefkiEveryone else stands in the middle.
21:14.22Pneumatus:o
21:14.33kadrahil.. yeah that
21:14.33Pneumatuswe tank valks on the front left white portal
21:14.38kadrahilwat
21:14.42ShefkiThe ranged are all white, melee and healers are black in the center.
21:14.44Gnarfoz<Pneumatus> bleh, 10man is trivial, you can get to p3 with 1 burrow and 3 healers :P <-- without heroism? while killing the adds? what kind of black magic would you apply to do that
21:14.57ShefkiWhites almost never even get to the center.
21:14.57kadrahilGnarfoz: heroism in p3
21:15.09PneumatusGnarfoz: we have a feral druid
21:15.30Gnarfozkadrahil: not able to hit p3 with 1 burrow phase without heroism in p1 :\
21:15.36Pneumatusand adds get killed with cleave
21:15.47Brunersshould i be geming strength or arp ?
21:15.57kadrahilGnarfoz: ;|
21:16.01GnarfozPneumatus: meh, Seal of Cleave, but that's not enough
21:16.37kadrahilGnarfoz: i think that's how we did it with lust at least, i tank the fight though so i don't remember \o/
21:16.47rubikyeah, we just 2-heal Anub-10H and only get 1 burrow but we do have a cleavin' warrior
21:17.34rubikI'm a Cat druid but I don't bother swiping the adds; they die pretty quickly already
21:17.43Ingelawe're gonna have our first real wipe night on saturday on anub.. gonna be exciting!
21:17.46Pneumatusour cat does like 9k or something silly
21:18.11rubikand i'm not speced for the extra swipe dmg anyway
21:19.58Ingelaoh yeh Pneumatus just did spam shielding/prom on twins now, didn't get oom.. didn't even use shadowfiend
21:20.11Pneumatusi went oom on algalon tonight
21:20.16Pneumatus37.5k mana
21:20.18Ingelanot sure if i'm doing something horribly wrong or i'm just stupid
21:20.30Pneumatusi didn't stop casting though
21:20.34Ingelalike "ohhh 0 mana is THAT what oom is?"
21:20.44Ingelaneither did i
21:21.38Pneumatusmy raptures are so close to 1k now :<
21:21.41sb|workIngela: as said, no problem to oom there :p
21:22.07Ingelasb|work, i had problems wtf
21:22.09Ingelai even tried
21:22.11Ingelaand failed
21:22.19sb|workmh...
21:22.30Ingelagonna check my webstats now
21:22.48AeyanI didn't have mana problems on Algalon 10, but I've never tried 25.
21:22.59Pneumatusmana dissapears fast if you're spamming shields and they dont all pop at once for haxxrapture
21:23.21AeyanOBLIVION!
21:23.22Aeyan=)
21:24.06Ingelai did haxx rapture today was so pro, shielded everyone before the smash thingy on icehowl, got like rapture from 20+ targets
21:24.13Ingelafull mana instantly!
21:24.24AeyanHehe
21:25.10NeoTronbtw based on the pug yesterday - running out of icehowl's charge is hard
21:25.20Ingelayes
21:25.21Ingelavery hard
21:25.34NeoTronof course the most pro people are the ones that were NOT targeted that ran into his path
21:25.34Pneumatusmake everyone switch prof to engineering
21:25.48Pneumatuswe throw people out of raids for getting hit by charge
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21:27.38NeoTrononce I actually had an issue
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21:27.49NeoTrona big dude was standing in front of me so I couldn't see shit
21:27.56NeoTronand you're right by the wall too
21:27.58kadrahilthat happened to me once too, haha
21:28.05kadrahili had no clue which way icehowl was going
21:28.07Ingelajust ban cows!
21:28.11Pneumatusbw should have a /say Charge on me
21:28.14NeoTronIngela: alliance.. :P
21:28.17Pneumatuslike it does on shadow crash
21:28.22Ingelaban, uhm, dwarfs!
21:28.29NeoTronprobably a space goat
21:28.33kadrahili think Ingela meant ban alliance
21:28.36kadrahilruns
21:28.41NeoTrondon't recall now, I just know I failed to see :P
21:28.43Ingelathat too!!
21:28.58NeoTronafter that I made sure that there was a clear path between me and icehowl befor ehe knocked me back
21:29.02NeoTronnot hard to do if you're not a moron
21:29.16Ingelayou forgot it was apug right
21:29.42NeoTronno no not at all
21:29.45NeoTronI expect people to be hit
21:30.02NeoTroni got targeted once, and wasn't, so I'm good
21:30.03Pneumatusme too, finger is always hovering over PS
21:31.26Ingelahehe i played holy today on jaraxxus, beat our regular holy priest
21:31.33Ingelashe must have feel pwned =(
21:31.44Ingelayes, yes, healing meters doesn't mean shit but sitll
21:34.57AeyanYes, healing meters don't mean a lot but when you're beating another healer, say a druid, by 3-4x in effective healing - there's a problem.
21:34.59AeyanHeh
21:35.17AeyanSo, still somewhat useful
21:35.42ShefkiHealing meters are completely useless on Jaraxxus becuase if you do the Ignite Flesh healing some of your healing doesn't even show.
21:36.00ShefkiThat healing is absorbed as as far as I know no meter shows it properly.
21:36.13ShefkiParsers might, I know the fork of Stasis includes it as effective healing now.
21:36.46Pneumatusyeh apostasis has been patched for it
21:36.48Pneumatusafaik
21:37.00ShefkiYup that's what I was talking about.
21:37.22Pneumatusseeing as the stasis dev has dissapeared
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21:40.28mitchnullerm, how does one advance a slider with 1 if step = 1 and bigStep = 5? I only seem to be able to advance by bigStep :(
21:41.46NeoTronstatis was handy and all, but damn slow and using a shitton of diskspace. and not comparable to WoL
21:42.17PneumatusNeoTron: diskspace is a real issue for stasis :<
21:42.33Pneumatus600Mb parses, etc
21:42.42Pneumatusif you have overall+trash parses
21:43.11Pneumatusim not so bothered about the speed, but the diskspace means i can only keep a month or two at a time
21:44.16Shefki35G for several months worth.
21:44.19ShefkiIt's really not that bad.
21:44.31Pneumatusit is if you're hosting it on any kind of non-dedicated-server
21:44.53ShefkiI'm not hosting on a dedicated server to just that.
21:45.20ShefkiDisk space is cheap.
21:45.29Pneumatustell that to the VPS proviers
21:45.32Pneumatus*providers
21:45.44ShefkiSo host it yourself.
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21:48.26Pneumatusnot feasable, it really needs to parse to DB and have a nice frontend
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21:55.14MecHow do you find out if a trade was successful? no events seem to be useful
21:56.58Balreigndid anyone already used texture:setRotation()?
21:57.01ShefkiMec: Watch for the event to unlock the items in your inventory
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21:58.09MecThat will happen wither trade was successful or canceld
21:58.50ShefkiMec: Yeah but if the trade was successful the items will be gone.
22:01.18mitchnullAuthentication realm: <svn://svn.wowace.com:3690> Curseforge <- I get this and svn ci hangs. nowwhat?
22:01.53ShefkiNow someone at curse fixes it.
22:04.02Repo10pitbull4_rangefader2: 03mitch0 * r2 / (13 files in 2 directories): initial commit
22:04.08mitchnullit workses!
22:06.20Gnarfozulic: http://paste.wowace.com/1276/
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22:14.44mitchnullit's my second PB4 plugin and I don't even use the beast :)
22:15.29Primerwhat does it do?
22:15.44mitchnullsame as RangeFader (the built in one) but better :)
22:15.48PrimerI once wrote a PB3 plugin for changing profiles upon entering instances/bgs/arenas
22:16.13PrimerNow I just ask Shefki to make changes for me :)
22:16.13PrimerHe didn't like my last idea though
22:16.23mitchnullhehe
22:17.00mitchnullwell, they didn't want to base the fader on librangecheck, so I wrote it myself :)
22:17.06PrimerI wanted to be able to hide frames of people that were offline
22:17.32Primerpeople that were "in the raid", but on alts/mains, yet, their opposite remained in the raid, and the raid leader wouldn't remove them
22:17.49mitchnullhide as in fade to 0 or :Hide() ?
22:18.43Primeras in, "don't count it for the raid composition"
22:18.50mitchnullhehe
22:19.01Primerso my raid frames setup that I use for 10 man doesn't go to the next one up because there's 11 people in it
22:19.32mitchnullwell, I wouldn't want to do that either ;)
22:19.37mitchnullsounds scary
22:20.15mitchnullgood idea though, but probably mighty messy to do
22:21.40PrimerShefki claims it's not doable
22:22.12mitchnullthose are harsh words :)
22:22.55Primerwell, he explained why
22:23.02Primerobviously anything is doable
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22:24.51Repo10pitbull4_rangefader2: 03mitch0 * r3 .pkgmeta:
22:24.54Reporemove LibStub and CBH as externals, PitBull should already pull those in
22:26.03Primer<Primer> Shefki: You know what would be nice in PB4? Right click, hide this frame
22:26.13Primer<Primer> for those people who are "in the raid", but on alts/mains, but offline
22:26.19Primer<Shefki> Primer: I'm not adding any clicks that do any configuration.
22:26.25Primer<Shefki> Primer: It fucking sucked in PB3.  People will accidentally do it while in combat and hten the frame would disappear after they leave combat.
22:26.34Primer<Shefki> Or people would do it and hten have no idea how to get the frame back.
22:26.34Primer<Shefki> Primer: Can't be done.
22:26.44Primer<Shefki> There's no good way to introduce that stuff into the state code.
22:26.49Primer<Shefki> The state code is actually secure code now and we're pretty limited on what we can do.
22:26.53Primerthere
22:26.58Primermitchnull: ^^^^
22:27.10Primersorry for the spam
22:27.13mitchnullyeah, as I said, I can imagine how messy it would be
22:27.17Primerguess I should pastebin that next time
22:27.40Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2557 RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua: Convert more cooking flags/etc over to the new system.
22:34.10Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.2 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
22:34.13Repode8b4c3: Change bars to be parented by UIParent. Change some defaults accordingly.
22:34.16Repo596af8a: Fix 'spell not ready' throb
22:34.21Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 04v0.5.2 * 0e849e0 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.5.2
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22:39.45Repo10ailo (experimental): 03Starfox * r3 Ailo.lua: Apply alphabetical sorting to output
22:43.14Repo10pitbull4_rangefader2: 03mitch0 * r4 RangeFader.lua: change the way half-fade is calculated
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22:59.21IngelaAntiarc, oh you fucker you just reseted my bar!
23:00.16Repo10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 1.0.0-1-gc504d0f / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] New GemIDs for Epic gems and NormalizeGems will use them if useEpicGems flag is set.
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23:03.38NeoTronso Gemhelper is now completely screwed up. with the new epic gems, the list of thems aren't only unreadable, they don't even fit in the window - they stick out!
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23:11.43fewynHmmm... are there any alternatives to Advanced Trade Skill Window? It's giving me hell when I use it as an inscriptionist
23:12.55AntiarcIngela: I had to, it wasn't anchored to UIPArent before :/
23:13.03IngelaAntiarc, =(
23:13.15AntiarcIt's a one time thing!
23:13.19Ingelait's fine :D
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23:14.22Repo10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 1.0.0-2-g76f6f68 Core.lua: [+1 commit] add checkbox to toggle epic gems
23:15.00IngelaAntiarc, i'd love X and Y pos btw, so i don't have to fix that in savedvariables.. kinda annoying :)
23:15.12AntiarcWhat do you mean?
23:15.17AntiarcIn the options?
23:15.19Ingelayeh exactly
23:15.22AntiarcIt's actually offset from center >_>
23:15.26AntiarcRather than absolute x/y
23:15.31Antiarchttp://i37.tinypic.com/1zv9wr4.jpg
23:15.35AntiarcI like how it feels!
23:15.45Ingelayeah yeah i don't care where it is offset from, i just want to set x exact = 219 or what ever
23:15.50Ingelai'm a bit perfectionist :)
23:15.55Ingeladpm
23:15.56Ingelaops
23:16.02Ingelai don't want it to be 219,9922581
23:16.34PrimerI really need a wide screen LCD
23:16.54Ingelaalso the fading in and out between 2 cds worked perfectly Antiarc
23:17.56p3limI need some help with itemLinks, I currently use the following to get the link type and item/spell id from the link, but i'd want the 3rd argument to match the name of the item/spell in the link.
23:17.56p3limstring.match(link, '|H(%w+):(%w+)')
23:18.09AntiarcGlad it works, I like my implementation :D
23:18.20AntiarcI did all the fancy effect with Blizzard's new animation system that no one uses
23:18.23AntiarcSo it's pretty CPU efficient
23:18.58Ingelajust fix so i can set x and y exactly where i want it without having to go to savedvariables and i'm even more happy
23:18.59Ingelai love it though
23:19.09AntiarcI'll just add them as advanced options
23:19.28Ingelayeh do it
23:19.38Ingela<3
23:19.58NeoTronI was thinking about using that for MagicTargets before I quit
23:20.02NeoTronmaybe I should look at it again
23:20.19NeoTroncould it work for resizing a bar? it's scale only right?
23:20.31p3limanyone? :)
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23:22.26AntiarcNeoTron: eh?
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23:24.06NeoTroncan the animation system be used for a bar mod (as in non-secure bars showing health)?
23:25.42AntiarcSure, absolutely
23:26.22Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1097 / (6 files in 2 directories): - Removed embeds.xml
23:26.25Repo- Added /drd slash command
23:26.28Repo- Added LDB icon to open config menu
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23:26.51NeoTronalthough mainly I need to make Magic Targets event based rather than polling based
23:27.09NeoTronhttp://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ lies! I tried that and it didn't do anything :P
23:27.30ckknighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J---aiyznGQ
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23:33.34PrimerAnyone know the /who syntax for level?
23:33.58Primerlike /who c-"druid" l-"80-80"
23:34.20Primerseems I just omit the l-
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23:38.18Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.5.3 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Clean up options a bit, add advanced options for height/width/x/y
23:38.23Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 04v0.5.3 * 6e9805a /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.5.3
23:38.30IngelaAntiarc, <3
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23:41.44Ingeladb:SetProfile("NewActiveProfile") gives me "attempt to index global 'db' (a nil value)
23:41.44Ingela"
23:41.57AntiarcOh, I need to add the profile options
23:42.02Ingelashould DB be my like RaptureDB
23:42.08Ingelaor should it be self.db?!
23:42.10Ingelaor why does it not work
23:42.11Ingela=(
23:42.47IngelaAntiarc, i'm doing that now for my addon, i fail hard
23:42.50Ingelai don't understand shit
23:42.51Ingela:D
23:43.05NeoTronRaptureDB is a globally saved variable I presume
23:43.24Ingelayeh exactly
23:43.24NeoTrontypically "local db" or self.db would be a localized reference that's shorter to type and faster to access
23:43.24Ingelaself.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("RaptureDB", defaults, "Default")
23:43.35Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.7.1_beta-2 * r1098 : Tagging as 1.7.1_beta-2
23:43.58NeoTronah AceDB. which ofc is a wrapper around the saved data
23:44.10NeoTronfor defaults + profiles :P
23:44.28Ingelait worked if i did self.db though!
23:44.54AntiarcMan
23:44.56AntiarcThe thing about T9
23:45.03AntiarcIs that a full repair is costing me almost 100g now :<
23:45.14Ingelapwned
23:45.23AntiarcYay crusader orbs, I guess.
23:45.23Ingela:D
23:45.37Antiarc~68 badges/week is good income.
23:45.38purlAntiarc: okay
23:45.43Antiarcwtfs
23:45.47Ingelahaha
23:45.54AntiarcThanks, purl.
23:45.56Antiarc~botsnack
23:45.56purlthanks, Antiarc
23:47.11IngelaAceDBOptions-3.0\AceDBOptions-3.0.lua:187: attempt to call method 'GetCurrentProfile' (a nil value)
23:47.21Ingelahow do i se the currentprofile then
23:50.09Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6542 Ulduar (6 files in 2 directories): Ulduar/Thorim: cleanups
23:51.47GnarfozNeoTron: it isn't UNIT_TARGET based? you scare me :\
23:54.23NeoTronit isn't
23:54.36NeoTronit should be
23:55.02NeoTronand now when I'm "back" I'll go ahead and fix that
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