IRC log for #wowace on 20091007

00:00.12Mikkeither way, use enhsim
00:00.21Superfly_well i just downloaded it yesterday, and was browsing files, only found elemental shaman builds
00:00.21Megalonhttp://code.google.com/p/simulationcraft/wiki/SampleOutputT9
00:00.27Megalonhm
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00:00.43MegalonShaman_T8_16_55_00.simcraft
00:00.51MegalonShaman_T9_16_55_00_258.simcraft
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00:01.02Megaloni have at lesat 3 enhancment profiles
00:01.04Megalonleast
00:01.16Mikkyeah well
00:01.18Superfly_hm, maybe i was sleepy
00:01.19Mikkuse enhsim :P
00:01.48Superfly_Mikk: i know enhsim, and use it, i just want to check different tools
00:01.53Mikknods
00:02.31MikkHuhu what a nightmare to mathematically simulate enhancement shamans
00:02.40MikkThough I know it's done in Rawr
00:02.50MikkMostly through double-checking all results against enhsim :P
00:02.51Superfly_you have a shaman too?
00:02.59MikkNo, shaman friend
00:03.34Superfly_in 3.2.2 FS glyph got changed, and would like to see if its any better than other glyphs, and worth to put FS in the rota or not
00:03.36MikkStill giggle when I remember him pwning raid dps charts with that white dagger
00:03.49Mikk"hi we are stupid class yes kk"
00:04.55Mikkwell um that should be a fairly straightforward comparison between FS and ES, no?
00:05.08MikkES being the alternative
00:05.58Superfly_tbh im not sure, i dont know the game mechanics with that detail to do math
00:06.56Mikkwell buff up, go shoot a dummy with FS, see what damage it did
00:07.02Mikkthen shoot it with ES, see what it did
00:07.04Mikktadaa
00:07.35Mikkexcept you should shoot each 100 times of course
00:07.47Mikkand let FS tick out for the entire 18 sec duration before shooting again
00:08.18Mikkthen again you probably lose some other useful glyph eh
00:08.23Mikkyeah you want a modelling tool ^^
00:08.55Superfly_yeah simcraft looks cool
00:09.19Superfly_even tho i cant find the t9 enhancement shaman profiles, maybe i downloaded an old version or something
00:21.28GnarfozShadowed: ping
00:23.26ShadowedGnarfoz: pong
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00:24.53GnarfozShadowed: got some weird QA2 behaviour with the craft list? I first added some glyphs, then gems, crafted the gems and the glyphs... seemed to be gone from the list? closed & re-opened it twice and they were back
00:25.01Shadowedit's buggy
00:25.07Shadowedbut I'm lazy and don't feel like tracking it down :>
00:25.11Gnarfozheh
00:25.31ShadowedMy suggestion is to open and close it a lot until it works
00:25.35Shadowedor you get frustrated and say fuck it
00:26.38Gnarfozalso, the SBB weapon buff thingy is still weird... works when you log in with enchanted weapons, then they disappear when I re-apply the enchantment, sometimes they show up again when reloading UI
00:27.45Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.1-1-g7a66cdc / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Added a bunch of flourish animations, including finish splash and spell-not-ready pulsing. Fixed a bug in onupdate throttling.
00:34.22Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6510 Plugins/Tips.lua: # works fine for string length.
00:35.24Repo10big-wigs: 03ulic * r6511 Ulduar/Thorim.lua: Fix Phase bit flag
00:36.45Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.1-2-gfd99adf / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added LibInternalCooldowns - trinket procs and the like should show on the cooldown bar now
00:37.34Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 04v0.2 * d657824 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.2
00:37.40Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6512 Ulduar/Razorscale.lua: Remove unused line.
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00:45.40Mikkin other news, soloing chillmaw as a prot warrior is boring :P
00:45.40IngelaAntiarc, if you where here i'd kiss you
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00:50.14Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6513 Coliseum/Anubarak.lua: Add shadow strike timers from Darthn.
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01:11.37Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic 07BW3 * r633 / (4 files in 3 directories): Bugfixes
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02:04.57Repo10fubar-dungeondifu: 03myrathi2 * r35 / (8 files in 3 directories):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
02:05.00RepoFuBar_DungeonDiFu:
02:05.04Repo- Added French (frFR) localisation (courtesy of TorTue)
02:05.06Repo- Removed superfluous 'Version' numbers from non-TOC files
02:05.09Repo- Added Addon snapshot folder (contains images for AddOn websites)
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02:24.42Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic 07BW3 * r634 / (4 files in 4 directories): More bugfixes
02:34.21Repo10fubar-dungeondifu: 03myrathi2 042.1.30200 * r36 : Tagging as 2.1.30200
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03:41.48stavmarwhat is a name of a good Windows 7 lua editor?
03:43.25Groktaromg
03:43.38Groktartwins are orgasmic as fury war
03:43.44Groktarespecially since we tank them on top of each other
03:44.15Groktargot to cleave wildly >.>
03:47.42Repo10rating-buster: 037destiny * r264 RatingBuster-Locale-koKR.lua: - koKR Update
03:52.28Shirikstavmar: vim
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04:01.59Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6515 / (2 files in 2 directories): koKR Update
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04:09.07Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2554 / (5 files in 2 directories): Removed the class flags from some leatherworking recipes.
04:09.27RepoAdded the variables for the new database format to the inscription database.
04:09.27RepoFixed a spelling mistake:F_CENARION_EXPIDITION->F_CENARION_EXPEDITION
04:09.27RepoAdded the F_DK, and F_DRUID flags to the recipes in the inscription database.
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04:14.18Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6516 Coliseum/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update
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06:18.13odt<PROTECTED>
06:18.33odtwrong net :(
06:24.55Mecif you have nested for loops, does break do innermost or all
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07:16.39Repo10fubar_repafu: 03ansiik * r36 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): update locales
07:27.16Repo10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r265 / (10 files in 1 directory): - Change options text style to match Blizzard options
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07:48.23mitch0ckk: ping
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07:48.41Repo10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r266 / (6 files in 1 directory): - zhTW update
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08:29.36RepoBetter error report and general handling of the case where an invalid
08:29.38Repoattribute is set to the GridFrame.
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09:28.41Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo 04r6517-release * r6517 : Tagging as r6517-release
09:30.23[Ammo]prepares for bugreports :p
09:40.49Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.2-1-ga412c07 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add a spell history queue to resolve issues with Death Knights and Shaman shocks
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09:45.52asmodai[Ammo]: Oh noes!
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09:46.51Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r272 Options/GridStatuses.lua: Fix Range option list.
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10:05.52Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 04v0.3 * 5d62e45 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.3
10:14.47Repo10broker_wintergrasper: 03iceeagle 07master * v1.1-1-g766e268 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] fixed a bug in the options panel
10:19.50asmodaiAntiarc: 0.3 already eh? :)
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10:20.52ElkanoAntiarc, give SexyMap some love instead :/
10:21.32asmodaiElkano: Oh, I harassed him last night about that
10:21.36asmodaiElkano: ticket 30 IIRC
10:21.53Elkano@ticket SexyMap 30
10:21.56RepoElkano: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexymap/tickets/30 - Add support for GetMinimapShape. Reported by: Elkano. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 27 days ago. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Antiarc. Votes: +3. Comments: 0
10:22.14asmodai<<+Antiarc>> There's a reason I didn't implement GetMinimapShape intentionally, and I can't remember what it was
10:22.22asmodai<<+Antiarc>> I think a lot of it is that SexyMap supports piecewise shape definitions, which GetMinimapShape doesn't account for
10:22.42asmodai<<+Antiarc>> But...you can define literally any minimap shape you want with Sexymap, of any complexity, and GetMinimapShape assumes a fairly restricted set
10:22.58Elkanothat's why I said he should just add a dropdown to set the return value
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10:23.39Elkanoalso he should look into better handling of the minimap buttons... I set it to don't touch and still it breaks the tracking button
10:24.57asmodaiOh? Does that explain why in EBB I see the tracking button get reset to nothing on login?
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10:25.12asmodai@describe professionbars
10:25.15Repoasmodai: http://www.wowace.com/addons/professionbars/. ProfessionBars. Displays bars depending on your professions
10:25.36asmodaiMmm, it was stolenlegacy who asked me to look at that or not?
10:25.39asmodaiis now in doubt.
10:26.07asmodaiOh well
10:26.09asmodai*files ticket*
10:26.32Wobinasmodai, probably
10:28.16asmodaihttp://www.wowace.com/addons/professionbars/tickets/4-blacksmithing-doesnt-quite-work/  XD
10:28.44Wobin... doesn't -quite- work?
10:29.37asmodaiWobin: Well, it gives a traceback (IIRC a nil problem) -- but it also worked partially :)
10:29.58asmodaiSo, that description is the best I can offer right now :D
10:30.05Wobinhow partially though
10:30.18AntiarcThe tracking button is an odd best, IIRC
10:30.22AntiarcI'll have to go back and look at it
10:30.29asmodaiWobin: It still wanted to smelt ore
10:30.38Wobinyou should put that in there =P
10:30.51asmodaiWobin: Need to verify my steps once I get home :)
10:30.58asmodaiand add the traceback
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10:38.28Repo10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r84 changelog.txt: updated changelog
10:39.56Repo10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny 041.8.1 * r85 : Release 1.8.1
10:40.29asmodaiAntiarc: If you can, I would be deeply appreciative. </voice type="draenei male">
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10:41.18Antiarcwait, what?
10:42.17Megalonhe wants you to talk dirty with him
10:42.20Kalrothhot
10:42.23Megalonin a deep male draenei voice
10:42.40asmodaiRofl
10:42.53asmodaiAntiarc: wrt that tracking button and map shape :P
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10:43.11asmodaiAnd you don't know that male draenei silly about his family jewels? ;)
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10:52.25Tuskhello
10:52.53Tuskis that possible to know the target's target without targetting it?
10:53.44asmodaiAs far as I know, yes.
10:53.45Tuskfor example as a warrior i'd like to know when i pull a pack if other mobs are targeting me while im focusing on my target
10:54.16asmodaiErrr
10:54.32asmodaiI wonder if that is possible though.
10:54.47Tuskwould be damn helpfull actually
10:55.14WobinTusk, no
10:56.01SunTsu*lol* ZDF, one of germany's state television stations reported that Yahoo and google got "target of so-called fisting attacks"
10:56.01Tusklol SunTsu
10:56.01WobinYou can only get the targettarget of yourself or someone in your raid
10:56.01Tuskok
10:56.01Tuskthat's what i thought
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10:56.39TuskWobin: even with the trheat it's not possiible to know who the threat is targeted to?
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10:57.07asmodaiSunTsu: fisting? ROFL
10:57.11Wobinwithout someone targetting the mob targetting you, noone available -knows- that someone is targetting you
10:57.20Tuskok
10:57.27Wobincause sure as hell, the npcs aren't going to tell you =P
10:57.40asmodaihahaha
10:57.51asmodai<whisper>pssst, we'll now attack you, ok?</whisper>
10:57.59WobinTusk, just do what every other tank does =) Situational awareness =)
10:58.10Wobinmax zoom, constantly moving!
10:58.14Tuskyeah i know im laking skill
10:58.22WobinAnd now is a fine time to learn =)
10:58.42asmodaiCue CCP's video about 'hardening the fuck up' XD
10:58.49Tuskgonna do a macro for target's target intervene
10:58.57Tuskgonna save me mouse movements
10:59.02Wobindoesn't intervene do that normally?
10:59.11SunTsuWobin: yeah, it does
10:59.19Tusksure?
10:59.32Tuskdamn im really an ass then
10:59.33Wobinif you cast it on the mob, it'll intervene to whoever the mob is currently targetting
10:59.37Wobinafaik
10:59.52asmodaiintervenes on Wobin's behalf and saves the Tim Tam
11:00.00SunTsuTusk: yup. intervene nowadays targets t-o-t if your target is not friendly
11:00.07WobinI'm actually eating chicken risotto
11:00.12Wobinthe timtams are in the fridge
11:00.33asmodaiKeep eating that risotto while I, errrr, "check out" the light in the fridge.
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11:01.44BalreignTusk, what kind of tank are you?
11:01.44asmodaiWobin: btw, did you find any problem with professionbars' attach to tradeskill frame?
11:01.57WobinI haven't updated recently
11:02.09asmodaiSherman M4 :P
11:02.33WobinBalreign: Fish
11:02.43asmodaiheh
11:03.02asmodaiWobin: would suck against Ragnaros ;)
11:03.13Wobinprobably get pretty battered
11:03.25asmodaiinsta fishsticks
11:03.56Balreignow that's an idea
11:05.25asmodaiMust say that a low-level warlock can easily take out 2-3 mobs at a time, even with an imp :|
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11:05.49asmodaiMy last try I didn't fully understand how essential Life Tap is to a warlock
11:05.51TuskBalreign: prot
11:06.00asmodaiTusk: Pala or fighter?
11:06.05Tuskwarrior
11:06.16asmodaiAh of course, intervene is fighter only
11:06.18asmodai<-- dumb
11:06.20Tuskyep
11:06.26harlwuff
11:06.41asmodaisends harl to Oktoberfest
11:07.10Balreignis a bit tired
11:07.19Tuskmmmh keybinding and movement keys aren't helping having all under fingers
11:07.26BalreignI never used intervene with my warrior Tusk
11:07.29harlasmodai: excuse me?
11:08.05asmodaiharl: arcor-ip is .de right? ;)
11:08.23harlyes
11:08.44asmodaiYou don't go to oktoberfest? :)
11:08.53TuskBalreign: i don't use enough sometimes pretty usefull when aggro gone mad
11:09.44Balreignthis should never happen. when a five man instance, then you lead. Assign the marks and give the kill order
11:10.09harlasmodai: of course not.. -.-
11:10.27asmodaichuckles
11:10.35Balreignyou need to switch on multiple targets to keep the aggro
11:10.41asmodaiharl: Does it have the same status as Schlagerfestivals?
11:10.52Balreignexcept if the dps are stupids... tat's a fact
11:11.24asmodaiSaw that recently with a bunch of mages and warlocks in my guild. It shows how people don't master the skill of watching their threat.
11:11.53asmodaiFighter was trying to keep aggro and warlock and mage pulled way too much. I constantly had to break off my DPS as shaman and rush to their defense. They died a few times. XD
11:12.21BalreignxD
11:12.31asmodaiSome people are only concerned with dishing out DPS.
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11:13.28Tusk<Balreign> except if the dps are stupids... tat's a fact << relevant point... they seems to always be ...
11:13.40asmodaiOi, as a DPS I resent that :P
11:13.50Balreignthe dickmeter
11:14.05harlasmodai: Oktoberfest and Schlagerfest are of pretty similar kind to me.. i neither like the people going there, nor do i like the ambience of such an 'activity'.
11:14.16asmodaiharl: Hahaha, I can fully understand that!
11:14.27Balreign"my dps is jigher than yours! I've got a bigger one!!"
11:14.32Balreignhigher*
11:14.40asmodaiBut wrt tanks I also have to say that some tanks are very good in building up and keeping threat.
11:14.52asmodaiWith others I really have to wait before I can start helping out.
11:14.57Tuskasmodai: or the hunter doing multiple shots all long....
11:15.03asmodai>_<
11:15.15asmodaiEven I know you hardly ever use multishot in an instance. >_<
11:15.17harl(nor do i actually like going anywhere with a lot of people crowded in small spaces, nor i like drinking alcohol anyway)
11:15.18Tuskthe rogue hitting the next mob
11:15.31Tusketc etc
11:15.33bluspacecow<PROTECTED>
11:15.38bluspacecow<PROTECTED>
11:15.41asmodaimage AoEing XD
11:15.46asmodaibluspacecow: ?
11:15.59bluspacecowthe irc server i connect on
11:16.07Tuskthen they tell you: "man it's just heroic, it's 15mn run DPS goes AOE"
11:16.11bluspacecowoh wait
11:16.12Tuskmmmh i love that
11:16.14bluspacecowhe not dead
11:16.24bluspacecow*extenguishes candle*
11:16.47asmodaiTusk: It's ok if their DPS is sufficient to kill really fast :)
11:16.57Tuskyeah never happens :D
11:17.05harlbartol.freenode.net seemed pretty dead to me yesterday
11:17.37Tuskthen the tank - me - is an ass cause he's not keeping aggro when he has used all his CD
11:17.39Tusknice
11:18.32Balreignah try healer for once
11:18.39harlas a tank, i hate it when people can't control their threat..
11:18.43Balreignyou'll see an other interresting thing ^^
11:19.02harlsame goes for me as a healer
11:19.13asmodaiAh yes
11:19.19asmodaiI love being resto shaman
11:19.50asmodaiWhen I curse my team for not picking up adds who are picking me off
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11:21.49Balreignmage pulls with pyro... mage dies... mage: "HEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ... me: "hey dude just stop pulling every mob you see, your a mage not a tank..."
11:22.17asmodaiHahaha
11:22.26asmodaiYou're cloth, not plate.
11:22.35asmodaiTough to heal cloth wearers who get pummeled.
11:22.37[Ammo]I pull all the time on my warlock
11:22.54[Ammo]most tanks shape up after haveing to rush to save my ass
11:22.56Balreignwith a dot Ammo I guess
11:22.58[Ammo]specially in 5 mans
11:23.05[Ammo]soulfire at times :p
11:23.12Balreignbarbaric
11:23.14[Ammo]just to say: hey you could have pulled in the last 6 seconds you dick
11:23.24Balreignhaha
11:23.45[Ammo]raids is a diff story ofcourse
11:23.54[Ammo]but 5 man = pullfest till you drop
11:24.11bluspacecowi just tell them they're yogurt
11:24.17Balreignmost of the time I'm waiting the healer regen before pulling
11:24.20asmodai[Ammo]: Yes, but I also get tired of rushing tanks who don't pay attention to mana levels.
11:24.22bluspacecowie squisher then extra squishy
11:24.37asmodai[Ammo]: And warlocks are a bit different in that aspect due to life tap :P
11:25.36asmodaihad to learn to ignore warlocks being at a perpetual 80% health. At least in the manner of not constantly throwing out a heal whenever they dip like that, but more spread out.
11:27.21[Ammo]well, in a 5man the healer should have plenty mana
11:27.27[Ammo]but I guess we overgear everything by a ton
11:28.03asmodaiHeh, I still need to start my Naxx runs.
11:28.14asmodaiDoesn't help if the raiding part of the guild is progressing on Ulduar. :(
11:28.26asmodaiGuess I'll just have to PUG it at some point.
11:37.12asmodaihttp://www.wowbash.com/image-9412.html
11:38.25pschrinerasmodai: the only mana level I watch when tanking is that of my healer :D
11:38.31pschriner(in 5 mans)
11:39.30asmodaipschriner: That's more than some do
11:40.44Balreigntrue!
11:42.31pschrinerI have a regular daily / pdc hero group, well the regular part being my tank, a healer and 1 dd, and it really helped my skills as a tank that the DD (formerly, in Classic, he played the MT1 of my former raid) is pulling like crazy and not watching aggro at all. Oc that was hard when he had his ulduar25-equiped hunter vs my entry level 80 paladin tank, but now it's absolutely fine :D
11:42.39harli usually don't lose more than ~35% of my mana in a 5-man with my druid on any occasion. and i deliberately throw hots at warlocks to encourage them to life tap.
11:42.55harlif their mana is below ~75%
11:44.10asmodaiOh yeah, I heal the 'locks too, but if I can I spread out the heal more if others are also damaged, chain heal and all that
11:44.15pschrinerI only have mana issues if things go badly badly wrong. Otherwise endless mana potion will suffice for "ordinary wrong"
11:44.27StanzillaBalreign: the mage has a spare hot streak procc and it would be a waste to let it run out, so he pulls :p
11:44.32StanzillaI do that all the time :D
11:45.08BalreignAnd I let mages die.. xD
11:45.53Stanzillaiceblock, blink, invis
11:45.56Stanzilla:
11:45.59Stanzilla>
11:46.55asmodaiI wonder if the Blizzard GM team has a department to think up jokes.
11:48.29asmodaihttp://www.wowbash.com/image-9248.html
11:48.57harlmost other healers i've seen aren't too good at managing and organising their heals and mana. many of them don't seem to include their mana regeneration into their 'calculation' at all - and then wonder about losing too much mana when they only start healing somebody after(!) he/she took damage.
11:49.33asmodaihttp://www.wowbash.com/image-9239.html  <-- our Xinhuan?
11:49.40harlalso, most healers don't seem to see who takes damage from direct or indirect threat/aggro.
11:49.53Stanzillaasmodai: yes
11:49.55asmodaiharl: At first I did too much overhealing, but it's a learning process.
11:50.27harlsure
11:50.32asmodaiharl: Problem with shaman resto is I need mp5 since I hardly ever stop casting to let the 5s rule kick in
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11:53.26asmodaihttp://www.wowbash.com/image-9165.html  <-- the reason why all my recent tickets have a 'no wait time available message'
11:54.07Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6519 / (3 files in 2 directories): koKR Update
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11:57.17XtekMornin'
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11:57.33asmodaimorn xtek
11:58.23Tuski can confirm intervene doesn't work if you target the mob
11:58.39asmodaihttp://www.wowbash.com/image-9010.html   XD
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12:07.56sylvanaargood morning
12:09.27mitch0vietnam
12:09.36asmodaiHey syl
12:11.13sylvanaarman - twins was so nice yesterday...i disabled the 2 sounds they make when people die
12:12.16sylvanaarthose sounds are awful
12:12.17WobinTusk, Are you the only one fighting? =P
12:12.37asmodaisylvanaar: that bad?
12:12.55sylvanaaryes
12:12.59[Ammo]solution: don't have people dying :)
12:13.04sylvanaarhard mode
12:13.16sylvanaaryou tell me how to fix that
12:13.29sylvanaari'm open to suggestions
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12:13.38TuskWobin: toc hc a BK's goule run to the healer i targeted the goule and spammed intervene..... nothing happened
12:15.40WobinI don't have a warrior
12:15.52Wobinbut that's what I've heard =P
12:16.06[Ammo]sylvanaar: the sound is annoying to stimulate you to perform better :)
12:16.18asmodaihaha
12:16.20MegalonI play wow without sounds :S
12:17.49WobinTusk, you could always install Clique
12:17.53Wobinand have it as a click event =P
12:18.17Tuska simple macro would do the trick
12:18.34Wobina simple macro will still require you to target
12:18.42Tuskbtw that's clearly not what detailed in the tooltip of intervene
12:19.14Tuskit's not suppose to go to t-o-t
12:19.18BalreignTusk, you need to intervene on a friendly target... the healer
12:19.21Tuskwhen seeing target
12:19.28WobinI... don't -know- why you're arguing it with me =P
12:19.30Tuskyeah
12:19.39TuskWobin: me neither actually :D
12:19.42WobinI already -said- I don't have a warrior
12:19.47Wobinand it's just what I heard, and read
12:20.33Wobinhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3411#comments:id=100081
12:22.13BalreignI'm taunting the goule instead... Usually it's enough to make it run to you
12:23.04Wobincrazy french people =P
12:23.15BalreignxD
12:23.27Wobin'goule' just looks weird =P
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12:23.49Tuskhehe
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12:26.08Balreignoh un suisse !
12:27.21Repo10fu-bar_addon-spam-fu: 03yoshimo 041.0.5-Release * r90 : Tagging as 1.0.5-Release
12:27.41TuskBalreign: francais en fait :)
12:28.02Balreignoki doki
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12:35.38stolenlegacyasmodai: did you have time to test?
12:36.24Repo10big-wigs_azeroth: 03funkydude * r205 / (12 files in 2 directories): Remove Onyxia
12:36.28RepoConvert to BW3 folder structure
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12:36.44asmodaistolenlegacy: see ticket 4
12:36.45Balreignhu? bw3? in ace3?
12:36.54asmodaistolenlegacy: Need to add the traceback though
12:37.31asmodaistolenlegacy: it works half-half :)
12:38.59Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6520 / (6 files in 6 directories): version bumpage
12:39.33stolenlegacyasmodai: well, that is _something_
12:40.03asmodaistolenlegacy: need to retest, but:
12:40.13asmodai1) attachment to tradeskill frame didn't seem to work for me
12:40.40stolenlegacydo you use tradeskillwindow replacement addons?
12:40.42asmodai2) separate bar worked, but when I clicked it for my mining/smelting, it errored out, will give the traceback later, it's on my desktop at home
12:40.47stolenlegacyokay
12:41.00asmodai3) error didn't reoccur after, but it was trying to use a skill I hadn't trained yet
12:41.02stolenlegacysince attaching only works with ATSW and default tradeskill windows
12:41.12asmodaistolenlegacy: At least ARL, not sure which others might replace it
12:41.19stolenlegacyarl doesn't replace, iirc
12:41.47asmodaistolenlegacy: Will double check when I get home.
12:41.56stolenlegacyprobably rather a problem with the BS code
12:42.08stolenlegacytypos in variable names and stuff
12:42.55asmodaistolenlegacy: I'll add the details to the ticket
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12:43.06stolenlegacygreat - or maybe i'm around on irc
12:46.01asmodaiAye :)
12:47.15stolenlegacywould probably be best if i'm around on irc
12:47.21stolenlegacymight have to pass you a few diffs
12:47.34stolenlegacyi really should get mining+bs on some character :/
12:49.15asmodaiHehehe
12:49.25asmodaiGot all professions on my characters, always useful
12:50.54stolenlegacyi've got everything except for inscription and blacksmithing maxed
12:52.52stolenlegacymaybe i'll just get mining/bs level 1 on one of my alts
12:53.04stolenlegacyso that i can be sure the functionality is working
12:56.20Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6521 / (10 files in 10 directories): TOC to the hand, version bumped to 3.1.
12:56.51stolenlegacy@project sraidframes
12:56.53Repostolenlegacy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sraidframes/. sRaidFrames. Game: WoW. tomsommer (Manager/Author), Nevcairiel (Author/Maintainer). Updated: 55 days ago. Tickets: 6/14
12:57.55stolenlegacynevcairiel: ping - have you ever thought about making the "statuses" of sRF customizable? I'd love to be able to add things like dark/light essence and penetrating cold
12:59.41stolenlegacywhoops, doesn't look like nev is even present
13:00.52BalreignFunkeh`, you have an error in BigWigs_plugins
13:01.05quiescensoh no
13:01.06quiescensan error
13:01.37Funkeh`thanks for that useful information
13:01.47Balreignsorry ^^
13:02.06ansik@project fubar_repafu
13:02.18Repoansik: http://www.wowace.com/addons/fubar_repafu/. FuBar_RepaFu. Game: WoW. ansiik (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 hours ago
13:02.27BalreignFunkeh`,  BigWigs_Plugins-2.0\Colors.lua:5: attempt to index global 'BigWigs' (a nil value)
13:02.43Balreignand so on for all the plugins
13:03.02stolenlegacydo you have bigwigs loaded? :/
13:03.13Balreignyep
13:03.28stolenlegacy/run print(IsAddOnLoaded("BigWigs")) please
13:03.39Funkeh`Balreign, you updated without reloading wow...
13:04.12Balreignno I addn't bigwigs installed, it's a new install
13:06.14Funkeh`Well you've either broken something on your end, or there's a real error before that one, which would cascade from the original error
13:07.56BalreignI'm going to uninstall all and reinstall to see
13:12.26Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6522 Docs/internal-releasing.txt: * Add a document describing the release procedure.
13:13.22Balreignhum... It maybe comes from other bigwigs modules. Sorry Funkeh` :)
13:14.22Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6523 Docs/internal-releasing.txt: And don't forget to commit after running the script.
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13:23.10stolenlegacyasmodai: now got mining and bsing 1 on my 60 warrior
13:23.16stolenlegacygonna check out some of those errors now
13:23.38asmodaisure :)
13:25.12asmodaihttp://www.wowbash.com/image-8217.html
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13:28.09Xtekwoops
13:28.31stolenlegacylol
13:28.52stolenlegacywhat's the new price for 150% flying again?
13:29.24steev45g!
13:29.30steevno idea
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13:29.47steevi think 850g
13:29.55steevwith epic being 4500
13:30.04Repo10professionbars: 03stolenlegacy * r34 ProfessionBars.lua: Fixed Bugs:
13:30.07Repo-fixed a typo causing the Profession bar to bug out.
13:30.11stolenlegacyasmodai: that should fix your problems
13:30.22stolenlegacysteev: nah, they lowered it when they made it 60-trainable
13:30.26stolenlegacyit was 800 beforehand
13:30.48steevflight?
13:30.55steev450 then
13:31.03steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/5kmYUVarZ0IM4YJq/
13:31.10steevtook us like 14 tries, but we finally got it
13:31.54stolenlegacythat also gets at least one of your healers a legendary mace, right?
13:32.08steevi think he still needs 3 more frags
13:32.37steevbut yeah, it will be our resto shaman that will be getting it
13:32.55steevwell, one of them, Wave
13:33.05stolenlegacyholy crap
13:33.17stolenlegacyonly 250 gold oO
13:33.29asmodaistolenlegacy: will check
13:33.33stolenlegacythat's what i call cheap
13:33.42stolenlegacyasmodai: like i said, it's just a typo
13:33.51stolenlegacychanged GetnumTradeSkills() to GetNumTradeSkills()
13:34.07stolenlegacyand it's working with copper bars, so the functions are working
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13:34.17stolenlegacyas long as I didn't get a spellid wrong, it should work
13:35.23steevi wonder if i should go back to frost dw
13:35.33steevi hate the unholy rotation
13:36.24steevwould also be nice if my pet followed me in to the portals like the hunters pets
13:36.50stolenlegacythat would be a buff to dks! unthinkable!
13:37.02stolenlegacyyou might get pets moving through portals in exchange for a DR on CoI, though.
13:37.20steevDR?
13:37.24steevoh
13:37.33stolenlegacywhen I think that people QQ about rogues' 70% snare, and don't care about CoI, which is, iirc, 90%
13:37.56steevwtf are you talking about? CoI is the most bitched about snare
13:38.09steevITS OP THEY CAN CHAIN CAST IT
13:38.16steevwhich is bullshit, at most we can cast 3 in a row
13:38.17stolenlegacywell, it IS annoying as hell
13:38.25steevand its easily dispelled
13:38.29stolenlegacyyes, but it's more than enough
13:38.48steevtell ya what
13:39.04stolenlegacyif your druid healer in 2s is at 10%, you just DG->CoI, and even if it is instantly dispelled, because of server lag you still are slowed for a few seconds
13:39.04steevill let em nerf CoI to 70% snare, in exchange for pre-nerf plague strike
13:39.40pentium166CoI plus passive undispellable earthbind = ?
13:40.06steevif its undispellable, why are you using CoI
13:41.24stolenlegacyas you might know, your druid partner won't be to 10% before you get your frost rune back.
13:41.55steev2s are srsbsns
13:42.05stolenlegacysuer111
13:42.14stolenlegacy:D
13:42.22Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6525 Options/Options.lua:
13:42.23steevdunno, i can't grape druids at all
13:42.25RepoBoss encounter scripts are now in their own category in the addon tree.
13:42.27steevpaladins sure
13:42.29steevdruids, no
13:42.38stolenlegacyyup, druids are currently unkillable by melee in 2s
13:42.51steev2s, 3s
13:42.56stolenlegacyand their pretty-much-passive poison dispel makes my MS useless
13:42.58steevbgs, duels
13:43.21steevthe only way they die is if they are locked out the entire time, and even then its rough
13:43.35stolenlegacywith their armor you CANT keep them locked out for that long
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13:47.11stolenlegacyexcept with garrote->mutilate->evisc->vanish->prep->garrote->vanish->garotte->ks
13:47.18stolenlegacywhich is unrealistical
13:49.01ansikwhat is 'namespaces' in localization?
13:50.13steevindeed
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13:53.06stolenlegacyanyone can recomment a good warrior leveling build for protection? i heard it's superior 60+
13:56.20genetik-stolenlegacy: what level are you?
13:56.29stolenlegacy60 :P
13:56.52genetik-what kind of gear?
13:58.16stolenlegacyquesting stuff
13:58.23stolenlegacyi was thinking of something along the lines of this
13:58.23stolenlegacyhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LZZVIorxczibIzsGo:cd
13:58.36genetik-like.. tanking questing stuff or dps questing stuff?
13:58.38genetik-or healing gear?
13:58.43stolenlegacyhealing gear on my warrio!
13:58.44stolenlegacyr
13:58.52stolenlegacydps stuffs
14:00.10genetik-what kind of leveling are you going to be doing? aoe mob grinding? questing?
14:01.05stolenlegacywhatever gives most XP - mostly questing, I supopse
14:01.10stolenlegacys/supopse/suppose/
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14:04.20genetik-i'm not positive, but if you only have dps gear from questing, you'll probably get more mileage from a dps spec
14:04.30stolenlegacywell, strength does give BV
14:04.34genetik-sure
14:04.51Repo10cowtip_luatext: 03profalbert 07master * v0.3-beta-8-ge71ca88 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] fix massive Rock-errors (don't mess with metatables in a Rock-Addon...)
14:05.08genetik-but the benefit prot has while leveling is that you don't get hit as much and for as much
14:05.18stolenlegacywell, i just started outland
14:05.25stolenlegacyso i'll be able to quickly get some prot gear
14:05.27genetik-if you have dps gear, you'll still be getting crit and won't be avoiding many attacks
14:05.58genetik-so you'll be doing probably less damage output while taking only slightly less incoming damage
14:06.46genetik-for what it's worth, i leveled essentially from level 10 (as much as can be considered) to 80 as prot
14:06.59genetik-but when i leveled from 60-70, i started out in bwl tanking gear
14:07.12genetik-and did all of the 5mans for better tanking gear
14:08.01Repo10libsidepanels-1-0 (experimental): 03Graveeater * r7 LibSidePanel-1.0.lua: Changed frame positioning slightly.
14:08.03genetik-going into wrath, i had all tier 6 tanking gear
14:08.04RepoReenabled sorting.
14:08.38genetik-so i'm only speculating how it'd work for you based on class/game knowledge
14:08.47genetik-since it's a different situation
14:09.03stolenlegacyoh well, i guess trying won't hurt
14:09.09genetik-yeah, man.. go for it
14:09.30genetik-play around with it.. i'm assuming this is for an alt, so respeccing shouldn't be an issue money wise
14:09.44Repo10cowtip_luatext: 03profalbert 07master * v0.3-beta-9-gfb49c25 LuaText.lua: [+1 commit] fix default Guild-text
14:09.50stolenlegacyyup
14:10.20mitch0ckk: ping
14:10.41stolenlegacymitch0: ckk isn't even in the channel :)
14:10.50mitch0one can never be sure
14:10.56mitch0he might be hiding
14:12.08stolenlegacyit's obviously a conspiracy!
14:13.09p3limAnyone know how I can redeem the reward points?
14:13.21p3limCan't find any info about it
14:14.12stolenlegacyhttps://store.curseforge.com/
14:15.22mitch0anyone knows how the packager workses?
14:15.27p3limthanks
14:15.56p3limnot possible to get a value to paypal? :/
14:16.19mitch0my current questions are: 1) could it run outside of curse's servers and 2) what are the startup parameters :)
14:19.35Shadowedyay Adirelle|work
14:19.36Shadowedthanks
14:21.17Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * 1.3-release-1-gae8b2af LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed the player GUID not being added into the guid -> unit map if the player was not a healer (Thanks Adirelle)
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14:28.25steevhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzcirEwN2Sg
14:30.55Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic 07BW3 * r635 Dragonblight (9 files in 2 directories): Update Elder Nadox localization
14:34.14stolenlegacyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
14:35.42steev<3 flashblock
14:35.55stolenlegacydamn thou!
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14:36.15stolenlegacys/damn/damned be/
14:36.16steevyou gotta be like avis, gotta try harder
14:36.31steevhowever
14:36.33steevjust for you
14:36.37steevim playing the song
14:37.01steevi was like 10 when this song came out :/
14:37.13steevmaybe 12 or 13
14:38.33Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r636 / (157 files in 17 directories): Merge from BW3 branch
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14:43.44Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r6526 / (2 files in 2 directories): frFR Update
14:46.14Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic 04v3.2.4-beta1 * r637 : Tagging as v3.2.4-beta1
14:46.31Repo- Converted to support BigWigs 3 (r6517 or greater)
14:46.31Repo- Also tweaked/cleaned up/removed a variety of things
14:56.51MecIs there a mechanism to fork a repo?
14:57.11profalbertclone?
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14:58.41profalbertMec: if the repo is cloneable, you can clone it with the big "Clone"-button in the repository-tab
14:59.34Repo10big-wigs_zg: 03funkydude * r178 / (18 files in 2 directories): Full upgrade to BW3
15:00.06Mecprofalbert: form what I understand in the docs, Clone doesn't create a new project
15:00.11Fiskerwhat if the clone-button is small profalbert ?
15:00.35Mecs/form/from
15:00.51stolenlegacyMec: you forgot the trailing /
15:00.55Meclies
15:01.01stolenlegacyss
15:01.03stolenlegacys/s/ss/
15:01.08stolenlegacytruth!
15:01.18mitch0purl sux at regex anyway
15:01.26mitch0s/sux/&orz/
15:01.27Mecs/lies/truth!/
15:01.28mitch0see?
15:01.51stolenlegacys/laughable/oh noez!/
15:02.03SunTsumitch0: I was told using "&" in regexp meant that the user sucks :>
15:02.03Fiskeryour mom sucks mitch0
15:02.16stolenlegacySunTsu: i was told that mitch0 always suck
15:02.17stolenlegacys
15:02.19mitch0suntsu: you were talking to fisker probably
15:03.11mitch0fisker: I don't see the download numbers skyrocketing, do some promotion for me! :)
15:03.25SunTsustolenlegacy: that may be true independent of using "&", yes :>
15:05.06Fisker:o mitch0
15:05.46mitch0laterz
15:06.09Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r6527 / (3 files in 3 directories): frFR Update
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15:07.17Repo10big-wigs_zg: 03Ammo * r179 / (5 files in 1 directory): fix some icon handling
15:07.49Mecso, clone?
15:08.23SunTsuMec: As there is no a%other way, AFAIK..
15:08.30SunTsus/ao/o/
15:08.37Mecok
15:08.53stolenlegacySunTsu: a%o doesn't match so
15:08.54stolenlegacy:)
15:08.59stolenlegacys/so/ao/
15:09.41steevi wish getting "on" vehicles was more consistent
15:10.05steevsometimes you can get on no matter what, others require you to not be mounted, others require you to be standing
15:10.34stolenlegacygotta love wintergrasp and sota/ioc cannons
15:10.40stolenlegacywhere you can't enter while mounted
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15:11.31quiescensthey just out to spite you
15:11.32quiescens):
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15:14.01steevsame with the mounts for argent tourney
15:14.17Adamar-CurseFor anyone who's been wanting a single-line display option in Curse Client v4, I have just patched it into the latest version (4.0.0.804).
15:14.25Adamar-CurseYou can enable it in Tools->Options->Appearance
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15:19.16Funkeh`Adamar-Curse, where the hell is my saved variables cleanup!
15:20.00Adamar-Curse@Funkeh`: Have you uninstalled an addon lately?
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15:20.18Funkeh`Adamar-Curse, yes, but not everyone removes addons with CC
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15:20.39Funkeh`Especially considering it doesn't list every addon you have
15:21.26Adamar-Curse@Funkeh': An SV cleaner like the one in 3.0 is coming, before we release.
15:21.37Funkeh`cool
15:22.20Adamar-Curse@Funkeh`: Feel free to add your input on how it should work: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-v4-windows/tickets/560-clearing-unused-files-sv-cleaner/
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15:25.40Adamar-CurseHas anyone in here had trouble with the 'Repair File Associations' tool in v4?
15:26.19Repo10big-wigs_zg: 03Ammo * r180 BigWigs_ZG.toc: fix InZone -> OnZone
15:26.56Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r638 Dalaran/The_Violet_Hold.lua: set displayName
15:27.23sylvanaarAdamar-Curse are you going to make the client update silently before release?
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15:28.01Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: It already does.
15:28.10sylvanaarAdamar-Curse i mean without the prompting
15:28.24Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: It will auto-update itself without prompting you.
15:28.34Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: As long as it is not in the foreground.
15:28.36Repo10big-wigs_azeroth: 03funkydude * r206 / (2 files in 1 directory): Don't load for just now
15:29.21Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: I pushed out two updates already today. Did it prompt you?
15:29.44sylvanaarAdamar-Curse im at work - so i dont know - but it did yesterday
15:29.53sylvanaarand asked me if i wanted to view release notes
15:30.18Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: Prompting you to view the release notes is a new feature I added.
15:30.46Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: When it prompted you yesterday to update itself, were you in the process of using it, or was it minimized/trayed?
15:31.01Pneu^Adamar-Curse: the updater has a habit of not restarting the client once it's updated
15:31.06sylvanaarAdamar-Curse well - actually I had just come home from work
15:31.12Pneu^it auto-updates, closes but then doesn't re-open
15:31.22Adamar-CursePneu^: Hmm. Can you send me your log?
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15:31.49sylvanaarAdamar-Curse it was stuck in a state where it was prompting me, but i wasnt there to answer the prompt
15:32.15Pneu^i've just had to start .804 manually, for example... getting the log now
15:32.19Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: And you're certain you have the option enabled to 'Install updates automatically'
15:32.56sylvanaarAdamar-Curse no, im not certain. is that the default setting?
15:33.04Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: Yes, it is
15:33.28sylvanaari havent changed any settings really - let me double check though
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15:34.00stolenlegacylua> local a="Buff_2222"; print(a:find("Buff_%d+"))
15:34.00lua_botstolenlegacy: 1, 9
15:34.14stolenlegacylua> local a="Buff_2222"; print(string.match(a, "Buff_%d+"))
15:34.14lua_botstolenlegacy: Buff_2222
15:34.36stolenlegacylua> local a="Buff_2222"; if string.match(a, "Buff_%d+") == a then print("a"); end
15:34.37lua_botstolenlegacy: a
15:35.08Pneu^Adamar-Curse: http://paste.wowace.com/1266/ is the log from today
15:35.41sylvanaarAdamar-Curse looks like it did update, when I showed it from the tray it asked me if I wanted to view the release notes
15:35.53Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: Ok, good :)
15:35.55sylvanaarchained remote desktop is so neat
15:36.15Adamar-CursePneu^: That log is definitely useful. Does it fail to restart for you consistently?
15:36.20HjalteAdamar-Curse: The "Repair Fire Associations" dialog provides an error for me. I am using Windows 7, which does seem to have a hard time managing default programs, not just with the Curse Client.
15:36.33Pneu^Adamar-Curse: yes, i don't recall it ever re-opening after an auto-update
15:36.46Adamar-CurseHjalte: You're just the guy I was looking for.
15:37.13Adamar-CurseHjalte: I have a potential fix for that issue, but it needs to be tested. Mind installing a test version of the client in 20 mins or so?
15:37.26HjalteSure
15:39.12sylvanaarAdamar-Curse maybe a time-out the dialog that asks if you want to update while the app is shown - i think i leave it open quite commonly
15:39.33sylvanaaris that a word '
15:39.35sylvanaarcommonly
15:39.51sylvanaaroften maybe better
15:40.12Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: There's no built-in support for dialog boxes that countdown, so I'll have to write one.
15:40.20Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: It's a good idea though.
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15:43.26HjalteAdamar-Curse: CC4 was unable to repair its file associations, due to insufficient permissions to access the Windows Registry.
15:44.08steevi just wish it would stop prompting me to update
15:44.16sylvanaarAdamar-Curse yeah, personlly, i'd just bypass the default click-once ui
15:44.43Adamar-CurseClickOnce isn't a UI :) It's a framework. Bypassing it wouldn't get me any additional UI components.
15:45.33Adamar-Cursesteev: Is it prompting you while you're using it, or when it is minimized/trayed ?
15:49.09Repo10big-wigs_zg: 03funkydude * r181 / (10 files in 2 directories): Remove some useless locale
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15:50.55sylvanaarAdamar-Curse i can show you some sample code of how I did it - if that would help explain what i mean better
15:52.18Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: If you mean for handling auto-updates, I already use my own code for it. The builtin ClickOnce update UI was bad :)
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15:53.46Repo10big-wigs_zg: 03funkydude 04r182-release * r182 : Tagging as r182-release
15:54.29sylvanaarAdamar-Curse k
15:56.28Elkanoomg, it's an Adamar :)
15:56.33Adamar-CurseHey
15:57.39XtekThis is not the Adamar you are looking for.
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15:58.57sylvanaarAdamar-Curse maybe dont use dialog boxes, just add a "client update available" message/button somewhere
15:59.48Adamar-Cursesylvanaar: The issue is that if someone is actively using the client, I don't want it to just close on them.
15:59.54Mecthere wouldnt happen to randomly be a function that returns "Bank" or "Bag" localized and depending on BadID is there? :D
16:00.16MecBagID*
16:02.01steevAdamar-Curse: have you seen titanium developer before? something like that would be spiffy (not sure if/how it would work in curse) - how it notifies of updates i mean
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16:02.44rubikhmm.. LibInternalCooldowns-1.0 could use some updating for some of the new trinkets.. Antiarc hasn't been around lately, has he?
16:04.20AntiarcI'm around, I just haven't gotten to it
16:04.35AntiarcIt shouldn't be too hard, though the badge items don't have the standard 45-second cooldown
16:04.40rubikohh!! k
16:04.59rubikright.. i added a couple (like Death's Choice from ToC-25) to my local copy
16:05.21rubikbut yeah.. there's the stupid Brewfest ones too.. and all the ToC ones, yeah
16:06.43Repo10gathermate: 03kagaro * r679 Collector.lua:
16:06.46RepoAdded some extra error controls for the GasCloud stuff. TODO: revist and redo the user submitted patch and check UNIT_DISSAPATES to see if it catches all clouds now.
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16:10.45Adamar-CurseDoes anyone else here experience an issue with Curse Client v4 not properly restarting after updating itself?
16:11.21profalbertsometimes yeah, but when I click the shortcut it opens normally again
16:11.23steevi think i ran into that with the .801 update but i wasn't paying close attention
16:11.47steevim at work though and i can't seem to get it working in wine so
16:12.12Adamar-Cursesteev: Ok. Yeah, it will probably never work in wine.
16:12.24steevthat makes me a sad panda
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16:12.52Adamar-Cursesteev: The mac client that is in development may though.
16:13.32profalbertwell maybe wine is able to .NET sometime
16:14.01stolenlegacylua> local a = {["arg1"] = true, ["arg2"] = true, ["arg3"] = "abcd"}; for k in pairs(a) do print(k) end
16:14.01lua_botstolenlegacy: arg2, arg3, arg1
16:14.14stolenlegacylua> local a = {["arg1"] = true, ["arg2"] = true, ["arg3"] = "abcd"}; for k, d in pairs(a) do print(k.." - "..d) end
16:14.14lua_botstolenlegacy: luabot:1: attempt to concatenate local 'd' (a boolean value)
16:14.24stolenlegacylua> local a = {["arg1"] = true, ["arg2"] = true, ["arg3"] = "abcd"}; for k, d in pairs(a) do print(k); print(d);  end
16:14.25lua_botstolenlegacy: arg2, true, arg3, abcd, arg1, true
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16:19.56stolenlegacycouldn't you just do a shell program for linux that fetches the repository urls from curse and updates using the respective repo clients?
16:20.04stolenlegacy@Adamar-Curse
16:20.18profalbertthat'd be awesome
16:20.43stolenlegacythat shouldn't be too hard
16:20.52Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: Yes. But development costs money, and the number of Linux users just doesn't justify the investment.
16:21.20stolenlegacyIf I get some free time during xmas holidays, I'll look into it free of charge :/
16:21.24stolenlegacythat can't be too hard
16:22.52steevstolenlegacy: i do something along those lines currently
16:22.55Ingelastill wtb that v3 theme!
16:22.56profalbertthe protocol isn't open, is it?
16:23.02stolenlegacysteev: oh, okay
16:23.03steevthe issue is libs and git
16:23.15nevcairielwrite a parser for .pkgmeta
16:23.18nevcairielshouldnt be hard
16:23.19stolenlegacyjust make it fetch the libs using the pkgmeta
16:23.20steevlibs aren't added as submodules
16:23.29Adamar-CurseIngela: Check today's Release Notes. While it isn't a v3 theme, it should make you happy.
16:23.40steevif there were, it would be awesome
16:23.43steevthey*
16:23.53nevcairiellibs aren't even added as externals in SVN
16:24.03stolenlegacynevcairiel: even though most users do
16:24.07stolenlegacyauthors*
16:24.12nevcairielwell you can't rely on that :P
16:24.18stolenlegacybecause it's convenient for themselves :)
16:24.28Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r6528 / (2 files in 2 directories): frFR Update
16:24.29stolenlegacybut yep, to make the packager fetch libs you need to add a .pkgmeta file
16:24.40stolenlegacysimply make your script parse it
16:24.45nevcairielyou could even steal that code from the curse packager, the code is open iirc
16:24.58Ingelathat's perfect Adamar-Curse, thanks alot!
16:25.27stolenlegacynevcairiel: i'm currently working on adding customizable statuses to sRaidFrames
16:25.35stolenlegacycloned the repo - I hope you don't have a problem with it
16:25.36Adamar-CurseIngela: My pleasure. Glad you like it :)
16:25.52nevcairielaren't statuses already pretty customizable?
16:26.00stolenlegacyyou can't add additional ones
16:26.15stolenlegacyyou can just customize the current ones
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16:26.54stolenlegacyoh, and I also replaced all your UnitBuff's with UnitAura's
16:27.06stolenlegacyso that it also recognizes debuffs for status checking
16:28.10stolenlegacybecause that is just so convenient for seeing who fails on twin valks
16:28.30nevcairieli just used debuff/buff whitelists
16:28.34stolenlegacyyup
16:28.35Repo10ailo (experimental): 03Starfox * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): First import
16:28.38RepoBasic version, only textoutput, no tooltip/options
16:28.42nevcairielthey always worked before .P
16:28.45stolenlegacybut you can't color background depending on the essence a player has
16:28.46stolenlegacy:)
16:28.51stolenlegacythis is what i'm adding, basically
16:28.54stolenlegacyalmost done
16:29.02stolenlegacyexpect a commit in the next 15 min, then you can check the code
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16:40.25steevack, its in hg?
16:40.56steevi can't even remember what vcs that is
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16:41.53steevahh mercurial
16:54.29asmodaiXtek: So, how's the release schedule looking? ;)
16:54.51XtekRegarding?
16:54.57asmodaicc of course ;)
16:55.06XtekAsk Adamar-Curse.
16:55.09Xtek:P
16:55.12asmodaiHaha
16:55.24asmodaiAdamar-Curse: So, how's the release schedule looking? ;)
16:55.48ansikhow to auto-sync wowace and wowinterface?
16:56.09nevcairielmanually :P
16:56.34Adamar-Curseasmodai: Good. Last night only two crash reports came in, and both were outside of our code.
16:56.41asmodaiAdamar-Curse: yay
16:56.53ansikwowace can export only to wow.curse.com?
16:56.56asmodaiAdamar-Curse: It's looking solid, at least from my side XD
16:57.13Xtekansik: Yeah, we're kind of in kahoots with them.
16:57.39Adamar-Curseasmodai: Yep, I am very pleased with how it is coming.
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16:58.10asmodaiAdamar-Curse: Looks more solid overal vis-a-vis cc 3
16:58.47asmodaiThat condense feature is nice too.
17:00.51ansikwhat is 'namespaces' in localization?
17:05.51Repo10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy 06custom-status * r654 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added custom statuses
17:05.59stolenlegacynevcairiel: there you are
17:06.04stolenlegacycode is tested
17:08.17Adamar-Curseasmodai: Thanks. Code-wise, it is night and day between v3 and v4.
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17:09.06asmodaiAdamar-Curse: Hahaha, I'll bet!
17:09.13XtekIndeed, if only you knew how much better v3 is.
17:09.19asmodairofl
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17:12.26Adamar-Curseasmodai: I will just say this: v3 used at least 4 different "String" implementations....
17:12.39asmodaiHahaha, always useful
17:12.54Adamar-Curseasmodai: Evil, really.
17:13.00asmodaiAdamar-Curse: did you guys test with chinese and such?
17:13.17Adamar-Curseasmodai: v4 will work in any language
17:13.34Adamar-Curseasmodai: The text hasn't been localized yet, but we have plans to do it at some point.
17:13.56asmodaiShould be pretty easy to add I guess.
17:14.11Adamar-CurseYep
17:16.50Adamar-CurseI think I need to add an indeterminate progress bar window, while v4 is updating itself.
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17:19.13XtekAdamar-Curse: Make it a beach ball.
17:19.42stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: make it the curse dragon filling up
17:19.45stolenlegacyfrom tail to head
17:19.52stolenlegacywould look friggin' cool
17:20.11XtekI don't think he can get the progress of the update.
17:20.16XtekJust know the fact that it's updating.
17:20.32Adamar-CurseI can get the progress, but it would use different API calls which are not nearly as reliable.
17:20.45Adamar-CurseThe goal is not to brick users by implementing a fancy update window.
17:20.50stolenlegacywell, i'm not the programmer of the two of us
17:20.57stolenlegacyor, maybe make it optional?
17:21.09Pneu^i wouldn't worry about a strict progress bar, just a window that shows its updating with a nice animated something or other
17:21.11stolenlegacylike "Do you want CC 4.0 to notify you of its progress with updates?"
17:21.51Pneumatussomething like the transmission line thing that the clickonce installer thing has
17:22.02Pneumatusjust to show something is happening
17:22.18stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: something many users would probably appreciate would be a plugin API
17:22.48stolenlegacyso that WoWUI could write a plugin so that the client could fetch stuff from both WoWUI and curse.com - while still only displaying your ads/giving you the premium revenue
17:22.55stolenlegacywin/win situation
17:23.16Pneumatuswe can already see if wowi addons have updates available
17:23.29Adamar-CurseYeah, we already added support for syndication from WOWI.
17:24.04Pneumatussome mechanism to get addons added to the list of known addons might be nice though
17:24.05stolenlegacyWell, what about independent addon authors that don't submit to the big sites? They could write plugins so that the CC could auto-update from their pages/repos
17:24.16Pneumatuspublish on curse and get reward points, problem solved
17:24.28stolenlegacyand, iirc, WoWI only gives update notifications, it can't auto-update from there
17:24.46Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: That is by design.
17:24.50stolenlegacyPneumatus: I get about 1 reward point a day - which is around the level most smaller addon authors get
17:24.59Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: We're not going to pull a WowMatrix on WOWI.
17:25.01Pneumatusi consider myself a smaller addon developer
17:25.03stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: and because we would have the same problem curse had with WOWM
17:25.12stolenlegacyexactly
17:25.25Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: I don't see how a plugin would be any different.
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17:25.39Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: The issue is whether or not we have permission to distribute addons.
17:25.42Pneumatusand I get about 8 points a day
17:25.43stolenlegacywell, they _could_ write one
17:25.52stolenlegacynot that they have to
17:25.53Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: We don't have permission, so we don't distribute them.
17:26.14Pneumatusany addons being distributed from their own sites are probably big enough to get a decent stream of points :o
17:26.38Adamar-CurseOur intent is obviously to make v4 as useful as possible.
17:26.42stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: if they (WOWI) wrote a plugin to your client that updates from their page (you don't distribute them by default), they would have given their permission to their own plugin to distribute their site's addons
17:26.43Adamar-CurseBut we will be playing by the rules.
17:26.59Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: We don't need a plugin to do that.
17:27.05stolenlegacyi didn't imply that you should get addons from WoWI by default...
17:27.07Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r639 / (33 files in 8 directories):  (Message trimmed by 3 lines)
17:27.10Repo- Tribunal: Remove copy/paste code
17:27.11Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: We only need author's permission.
17:27.13Repo- Black Knight: remove extra bit flag check on death
17:27.17Repo- Skadi: Fix Death guid
17:27.19Repo- Slad'ran: fix bit flags
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17:27.43Pneumatusit's easy enough for authors to publish to curse if they publish on wowi anyway, repo syncs and what have you
17:27.44Adamar-CurseTo be honest, I am against plugins.
17:27.50Pneumatusif that's what authors want
17:27.57stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: well, it was just an idea
17:27.59Adamar-CurseThey are a risk to security, and stability.
17:28.15stolenlegacyPneumatus: yup, but I simply CBA to update TO wowi anymore
17:28.26Pneumatusso what's the problem
17:28.27stolenlegacyhaving to create my own archives is just far too annoying
17:28.43stolenlegacywell, it would be useful - going to WOWI just to update carbonite is a PITA
17:28.54Pneumatusdon't use such a pile of shit addon, problem solved
17:29.06stolenlegacywell, it has certain qualities most other questhelpers don't
17:29.13nevcairielown archives? just download the wowace zip and upload it to wowi :P
17:29.26Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: If the author of Carbonite wanted us to distribute it via the v4 client, we would.
17:29.38stolenlegacynevcairiel: cba :)
17:29.38Adamar-Cursestolenlegacy: Until he gives us that right, we will gladly link to WOWI.
17:29.51stolenlegacynevcairiel: oh yeah, did you check out my commit to srf yet?
17:29.56nevcairielno
17:30.00nevcairieland i won't today :P
17:30.02stolenlegacyAdamar-Curse: yah, was just asking
17:30.04stolenlegacynevcairiel: okay
17:30.32Pneumatuseven if wowi were able to write a plugin, they'd probably need to get consent of every author to distribute through it (although i have no idea what their terms are like)
17:30.39Pneumatuswhich would be just the same as it is now
17:31.00Adamar-CurseThere's just no need for a plugin.
17:31.07Adamar-CurseSyndication is far far better.
17:36.43p3limanyone know if wowace/curse supports .gitmodules in the same way they support .pkgmeta files?
17:37.55nevcairielits a git feature, so it'll work on git repos :P
17:38.42p3limyeah but if the zip packager and whatnot gets it
17:39.13nevcairielthere is no reason to use it
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17:39.53RepoReset frames to UIParent center on login, so that goofy positions don't get cached in framelayout.
17:40.51Repo10libinternalcooldowns-1-0: 03Antiarc * r12 LibInternalCooldowns-1.0 (2 files in 1 directory):
17:40.53RepoUpdate data file with 3.2 trinkets. Check that an item is equipped before setting a cooldown on it (for multi-item spell procs)
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17:42.20sylvanaarif we are talking plugins - i'd like to be able to have a plugin for submitting custom info for bug reports
17:43.05Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.3-1-g215a99b / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add maximum duration and blacklist options. Fix LibICD support.
17:44.57Ingelahttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/npcscan.aspx
17:45.02IngelaI have played wow for 4 years without getting hacked. The same day I downloaded this mod, I got hacked...I see that people below have had this problem as well. I don't know if it's coincedence or not, but buyer beware. They sold all my stuff, and converted all my emblems/jewelcrafter tokens...took me 3+ days to get it back. I also downloaded the overlay program.
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17:47.04Pneumatus"I also downloaded the overlay program"
17:48.05Ingela:D
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17:51.24Adamar-CurseYou mean someone didn't blame Curse Client for getting hacked?
17:51.32Adamar-CurseThat's a first :)
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17:52.28Ingela:D afaik virus like that who steal your wow logins, they don't do it directly as you get it, they wait for some days so something else gets the blame
17:52.34Ingelaaka curse client :D
17:53.02TrellmorHi! One quick question regarding bigwigs. The Broadcast tooltips says "Only applies if you are raid leader". Does it also apply to raid assistant?
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17:58.21vhaarrTrellmor: no, raid leader only
17:58.25vhaarrjust like it says
17:59.24vhaarrif you'd like it to work for officers as well, please file a ticket
17:59.42Repo10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy 06custom-status * r655 / (2 files in 1 directory):
17:59.45RepoFixed a few lovely bugs (I call them "birth complications").
17:59.48RepoAdded statuses now carry over after relogging/reloading [using sRaidFramesDB instead of sRaidFrames now.)
17:59.51RepoDebuff support is now done.
18:00.28Trellmorif i replace if inRaid and not IsRaidLeader() then with if inRaid and not IsRaidLeader() and not IsRaidOfficer then
18:00.33Trellmorit should work, right?
18:00.52stolenlegacyIsRaidOfficer() rather
18:00.56stolenlegacybut I suppose it _should_ work
18:01.04NeoTronso what's that "overlay program" of which he speaks?
18:01.42Pneumatuswho know, but it probably logs 'dem keys
18:01.45Trellmorok thanks
18:02.32stolenlegacyTrellmor: however, I can't guarantee anything - it's not my code
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18:06.50Adamar-CurseQuestion for you guys. If you have the v4 client trayed, would you still like to see the 'progress window' when it is updating itself?
18:07.03nevcairielno
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18:07.36Pneumatusditto
18:07.40nevcairieleven when its not trayed, don't make it steal focus :P
18:08.17Pneumatusit should only steal focus if the CC had focus when it went to update
18:08.38Adamar-CurseYep
18:08.50nevcairieli hate apps that i have just running and then start popping up in the middle of an irc sentence
18:08.58nevcairieland the keys i keep typing select one of the buttons already
18:09.02nevcairielcanceling stuff
18:09.04nevcairielit sucks :P
18:09.16Adamar-CurseI agree
18:09.29nevcairieli wonder when i was annoyed the last time..
18:09.37nevcairieli was installing something
18:09.55Repo10sraidframes: 03stolenlegacy 06custom-status * r656 sRaidFramesOptions.lua:
18:09.58Repo"Reset all statuses" button now also deletes all custom statuses.
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18:13.25jnwhitehis the cc4 beta for mac avauilable?
18:13.31jnwhitehcc3 for mac just blows up on me too often
18:14.30stolenlegacyjnwhiteh: cc+mac is always an explosive mixture. as to your question, I think it is still in development and not in beta - yet. You'd have to ask Adamar-Curse on that one though.
18:14.52jnwhitehaye
18:18.05Adamar-CurseThe mac v4 beta is coming soon - probably the week after next.
18:19.47NivFreakaddon sync? :)
18:20.06NivFreakbtw, it'd be awesome if we had the option to sync macro/keybind caches
18:20.16NivFreakin both versions :)
18:21.16Ingelabeat this, just solo healed northrend beasts as disc
18:21.21Ingela10man nto hardmode though
18:21.34Ingelaother healer disconnected
18:22.07PneumatusNivFreak: is that even needed now they are stored serverside?
18:22.52NivFreakin the case I was using it, yes
18:23.04NivFreakwhich was live -> PTR
18:23.06NivFreak:)
18:23.36NivFreakIngela: as long as you can get some relief with a bop, that seems pretty doable
18:23.52Ingelayeh we had 2 paladins
18:23.56Ingelaone tank one ret
18:24.31NivFreakthe 10man dmg isn't so crazy
18:24.39NivFreakdebuffs are pretty forgiving in terms of dmg
18:24.52NivFreakand icehowl's breath isn't a sure death if your healer is frozen
18:24.59NivFreakI bet it was stressful though ;)
18:25.45Ingelahehe yeh stressful
18:26.12Ingelai got the ice in p3 too but yeh had shidles on everyone so wasn't that  bad ^
18:26.17Ingela^^
18:26.26Pneumatusprayer of mending takes care of the breath
18:26.46Ingelai just shield everyone in p3
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18:28.28NivFreakI actually wish pom would fire before shields absorbed ;)
18:29.03NivFreakI hate that when I'm shield spamming on my priest I can effectively stop my PoM jumps
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18:55.18stolenlegacyNivFreak: if the raid is taking that little damage - you significantly outgear the fight
18:58.36sylvanaari hate hard-mode twin valks - have i mentioned that in the last hour
19:00.04Fiskerwhy?
19:00.49stolenlegacybecause they are a bitch
19:00.57sylvanaarthey are bitchES
19:01.54sylvanaari deleted their annoying emotes at least i dont have to listen to "you have been weighed..."
19:02.15Fiskernot rly
19:02.24sylvanaarok Fisker
19:02.26Fiskerwell unless you're talking 25 man
19:02.29sylvanaari am
19:02.32ZynYOU HAVE BEEN MEASURED AND FOUND WANTING
19:02.33Fiskerfuck!
19:02.35FiskerThey are bitches
19:02.52sylvanaarzyn ""
19:02.58sylvanaarthats what they say now
19:03.24Zynthey say SMACK and WHAM now
19:03.30sylvanaarwhat is it called 25-Heroic or 25-hardmode
19:03.56sylvanaarZyn mine say "" and ""
19:04.57Fiskeryour mom is 25-heroic
19:05.11sylvanaarshe is
19:05.41sylvanaarhonestly i'd like to be 25-heroic too
19:05.48asmodaioh wow
19:06.03asmodaithey want to shift emblems of conquest to triumph and triumph to the new emblems
19:06.30stolenlegacyasmodai: not AGAIN
19:06.36stolenlegacycries himself to sleep.
19:06.38FiskerSAUCE
19:06.55stolenlegacyps: emblems of frost
19:07.02Fiskerhey you have a stance until you take a new, and then take the old again
19:07.12stolenlegacyused to buy [Icecrown Thing of Crafting Things (PH)]
19:07.12stolenlegacy:D
19:07.19Fiskerold
19:07.27Fiskeri don't like "Frost" btw
19:07.27stolenlegacygoes to sleep.
19:07.29Fiskerhope it changes
19:07.35FiskerS A U C E asmodai
19:07.37stolenlegacynevcairiel: remember to check the srf repo
19:08.10asmodaihttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20122741378&pageNo=7&sid=1#126
19:08.44Fiskeroh well
19:08.55Fiskercommits suicide
19:09.07Fiskeryou remember the Blizzcon about WotLK asmodai?
19:09.27FiskerThe one where they said they learned from their mistakes of having high-end gear accessible by the lowest tier of raiding/dungeoning?
19:09.35Fisker(something along those lines atleast)
19:09.41IngelaAdamar-Curse, wtf, stop updating, everytime i open the program new update! :D
19:10.11asmodaiFisker: XD
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19:13.13Fiskerindeed asmodai :o
19:13.24nicoli_shes an updating machine ingela, he cant help it
19:16.04Ingela:D
19:18.08Ingelagah, i have a resto druid to heal with for anub hardmode10man... disc or holy hmmm
19:21.34NeoTronFisker: yes I've brought that comment up a few times
19:22.53NeoTronapparently they realize that ezloot is better $$$
19:24.14Pneumatusonly 2 healers :o
19:25.29Ingelawe always do it 2 healers :O
19:26.25Pneumatusi'm getting fed up of keylogger/whatever comment email notifications from curse now :<
19:26.36Pneumatusits the same link every time
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19:32.23nicoli_syou mean getting emails about comments that are keyloggers?
19:32.30Pneumatusyes
19:32.37Pneumatushttp://wow.curse.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=2000129
19:32.40Pneumatusthis user, this time
19:33.05RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ailo/. Am I locked out?. Starfox (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
19:33.28Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2555 RecipeDB (5 files in 1 directory):
19:33.31RepoConverted all the remaining usable class filter flags to the new format.
19:34.33nicoli_sbanned them pneumatus
19:34.48Pneumatusstop them posting that url in the first place tbvfh
19:35.23Shadowed^
19:35.24Torhal_They're called filters. Someone should do some research on the topic.
19:35.27nicoli_swish i could, not my site, sorry
19:36.34nevcairielnicoli_s: so walk a few feet, and slap the guy that can!
19:36.55Pneumatusit gets posted at least once a week, minimum
19:40.54Ingelayay tribute to insanity!
19:41.00Ingelano wipes :D
19:41.29steevgrats
19:43.42Ingelathanks :)
19:43.54asmodaipays tribute daily at work
19:43.58Pneumatus48 wipes remaining at anub 25 heroic
19:44.07Pneumatuswe're gonna get spanked repeatedly :<
19:44.22Fiskerneonman
19:44.25Fiskerdamn you NeoTron
19:45.11IngelaOMG got crit+haste back, WIN!
19:47.23steevwe haven't tried 25 heroic yet, only 10
19:48.24Fiskerwe can't get past beasts :E
19:48.36Fiskerwe've had some team issues too though
19:48.45Fiskerfags playing aion and maintaining it's a good game
19:48.58Fiskeri just logged in for the first time in like a week or so
19:49.12FiskerAnd the moment you're logged in you're flooded with gold sellers
19:49.21NeoTronthat's part of the daily routine
19:49.32Fiskeroh and pretty much everything but the crafting system is fucked up severely
19:49.35NeoTronblock the 5-10 sellers that came up since yesterday.. :P
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19:50.10NeoTronone thing, at 20, that I can't complain about is significant bugs
19:54.42nicoli_sim liking it
19:54.48nicoli_sand the gold selling spam will get fixed
19:55.05nicoli_sof course im a little biased since our aion db site is the first to really take off :P
19:55.22Hjaltevhaarr: Tips are too big for the tip box when using Calibri it seems.
19:55.31Pneumatusnicoli_s: because it's actually got some dev time? :P
19:55.44Pneumatusor because there's no competition?
19:56.01nicoli_sthe first, and because im just badass that way :P
19:56.17nicoli_sand the others got dev time, they just didnt get any real new features + fixes dev time
19:56.49Pneumatusdoes wowdb have all naxx loot in yet? ;)
19:57.02nicoli_sno, because we havent updated it recently
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19:58.35nicoli_salso, im talkign to the curse.com dev about the possibility of filtering out some of those gold spam links, last time it was mentioned i think they said it wasnt possible due to the way that community server is setup, but i cant be 100% sure
20:02.19nicoli_spneumatus, do you have the url that that guy was linking to?
20:02.31Pneumatusyup
20:02.46NeoTronnicoli_s: gold spam "will" be fixed isn't really NCSoft track record
20:03.28nicoli_swell from what i've seen, they seem to be at least listening to some of the concerns/demands of the community
20:03.37nicoli_sand its a big enough problem where they pretty much have to fix it
20:04.06NeoTronone upcoming fix... require you to enter a captcha to gather stuff
20:04.16nicoli_sreally?
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20:04.18NeoTronyes
20:04.48NeoTronnot every time mind you but there's a chance to get a debuff that prevents further gathering until you do the captcha. fail 3 times and you get a longer term debuff you can't remove
20:05.49nicoli_shopefully not on the flying ones
20:05.56NeoTronspecifically the flying ones
20:05.57NeoTronaether
20:06.08nicoli_sthats pretty fucked, got a a source?
20:06.16NeoTronyour own site
20:06.26NeoTronaionsource
20:06.30NeoTronthat's curse isn't it?
20:06.39NeoTronhttp://www.aionsource.com/forum/news-announcements/73690-incoming-updates-1-5-xp-boosts-flying-beasts-o_o.html
20:06.49nevcairielhahaha that would so much make the game fail
20:06.51sylvanaargod the gold spam is soooo bad
20:06.53nevcairielcaptchas in game?
20:06.54nicoli_si dont have time to read the news
20:06.58Pneumatusconfirming this
20:07.26NeoTronyou can reasonble asy block the spammers of the day, usually not more than 5-10 of them
20:07.34sylvanaaryeah
20:07.35NeoTronuntil you fill up yout block list after a few weeks
20:07.47sylvanaarwhy cant they do it
20:08.06NeoTronSpamSentry seems to be able to filter spam. doesn't seem like an unreasable feature to have
20:08.30NeoTronalso seems trivial to have a GM monitor open chat channels and ban
20:08.35sylvanaarsee this is why i dont like mmo's that release with no modding capability
20:08.41NeoTronthey have so few servers, having one per server/faction is very doable
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20:09.05sylvanaaryou can bot and abuse them regardless - but legitmate modding is the only thing you cant do
20:09.11NeoTronyep
20:09.18nevcairielthat would be such a boring job NeoTron
20:09.23NeoTronintern!
20:09.56NeoTronthese guys could play the game at the same time
20:10.06NeoTrononly caveat being required to be visible, and monitor chat channels
20:10.23sylvanaari thought the original wow gms were also players
20:10.27NeoTronthey also have a lot of issues with people falling for scam websites
20:10.39NeoTronso that's where a lot of the gold comes from
20:10.50NeoTronor kinah or what not
20:10.57nevcairieli guess to be a GM you should've at least played to have a feeling for the game
20:11.32sylvanaari think they should just legitimize the gold selling
20:11.56sylvanaarbecause you cant stop it
20:12.27nevcairielyou can try to ban enough people so the fear is high enough for the buyers
20:12.28sylvanaarso - offer a way to sell it legitmately, you can at least control it
20:12.42asmodaiHahaha, that captcha is just utter fail
20:12.46NeoTronyou really do need to ban the buyers, and make it public
20:12.50Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2556 RecipeDB (8 files in 1 directory):
20:12.53RepoAdded GAME_ORIG as the new flag for the game version-original, new format.
20:12.56[Ammo]the reason there is soo much gold spam in Aion is the fact that it's a bloody gold(kindah) grind
20:13.17NeoTronindeed
20:13.25[Ammo]the CE wings pwn
20:13.28NeoTronthe need for currency is higher in Aion than WoW
20:13.34[Ammo]saves 1.3Million kinah per character ;)
20:13.48NeoTronand the benefit you can get from kinah is obvious
20:14.00[Ammo]aion was made for the goldfarmer
20:14.01NeoTronlike buying good gear or buying enchants for your gear
20:14.25NeoTronand with pvp being so important from the 20s and up, there'a  lot of incentive to buff your gear too
20:14.35sylvanaari feel like i need to be an asian farmer to play aion even just leveling feels like farming
20:14.51nevcairielthe whole game felt kinda boring, imho
20:15.00sylvanaarleveling is too slow
20:15.00[Ammo]yup it's a boring game
20:15.05nevcairieldunno about instances or end game
20:15.07[Ammo]asian grindfest
20:15.08nevcairielnever reached that
20:15.09NeoTronleveling is sort of ok I think
20:15.16NeoTronI mean  I got two levels last night, that's reasonble
20:15.30NeoTronbut the problem is I'm not having a ton of fun actually playing it. :P
20:15.33sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
20:15.39sylvanaarthat sums it up
20:15.54NeoTronhaven for linage 2 players
20:15.55[Ammo]but it's ganker heaven
20:16.00nevcairielNeoTron: on the beta weekends i played, i played the first evening, and then couldn't motivate myself to play again
20:16.11sylvanaari liked Age of Conan better
20:16.31NeoTronI predict a significant dropoff in the first few months
20:16.38[Ammo]sure hoep so
20:16.50[Ammo]I can't be arsed waiting 2 hours in a queue to be able to play every night
20:16.50nicoli_sman you guys love to bitch :P
20:17.03NeoTron[Ammo]: well I haven't seen queues for days
20:17.12[Ammo]Telemachus has plenty of queues
20:17.16NeoTronso queues is not an issue to me at all
20:17.29nicoli_si've still yet to have a queue on siel
20:17.45NeoTronnicoli_s: well the game is different and it definitely doesn't encourage casual play
20:17.47[Ammo]at least I got the korean language pack back
20:17.58[Ammo]the english/american language pack sucks cock
20:18.04nicoli_si dunno neo, im a casual player and im enjoying it
20:18.06NeoTronyou know korean?
20:18.09[Ammo]no
20:18.10NeoTronnicoli_s: what level?
20:18.15nicoli_s156
20:18.16nicoli_s15*
20:18.24NeoTronsee that's still the golden age
20:18.26[Ammo]but I don't need to hear the damn english :)
20:18.38NeoTron[Ammo]: it's just audio?
20:18.42[Ammo]yeah
20:18.45sylvanaar"You buy something now! You no looking you buy!"
20:18.45NeoTronah I see
20:19.03[Ammo]at 15 quest xp is still 50% or more of your xp
20:19.10NeoTronnicoli_s: I think the first two zones are prett ok
20:19.12[Ammo]at like 30+ it's under 4%
20:19.18[Ammo]the rest is grind grind grind grind grind
20:19.38nicoli_sunless you do lots of pvp
20:19.49Balreign[Ammo], I assume the BigWigs wiiki's API is outdated?
20:19.55[Ammo]yeah
20:20.09[Ammo]but examples enough in the current modules
20:20.31NeoTronI'm not sure if leveling via pvp is viable?
20:20.51NeoTronalso based on hearsay, pvp is essentially solely won by the side with the most people
20:21.03nicoli_si dont know either, i just assumed you could
20:21.12[Ammo]NeoTron: not really
20:21.23[Ammo]but as soon as you get more than twice the other sides number you win by default
20:21.32[Ammo]below that the lower numbers can win on skill
20:21.39NeoTronand btw, let me say that healing without clique gets old fast
20:21.51nicoli_swell, addons are coming
20:21.52NeoTrontarget + cast is so less flexible than <click>
20:22.04NeoTronnicoli_s: oh?
20:22.29NeoTronnicoli_s: oh gotta ask this, have you done crafting and/or significant gathering?
20:22.53nicoli_snope, aehter at like 5, gathering at like 35
20:23.11nicoli_scrafting does seem to be quite a grind, but at least you can craft some seriously good items
20:23.23[Ammo]if you have the kinah :p
20:23.28[Ammo]or grind the materials
20:23.33NeoTrona lot of the quests are to deliver gathered method
20:23.37NeoTrons/method/items/
20:23.52NeoTronbut I find it to be such a horrible grind I quit around 69-70
20:24.06NeoTronand yeah crafting is horrid too :P
20:24.59[Ammo]time for bed
20:25.37nicoli_sfor me aion is a game that isnt too spectacular, but it does alot of good things right, and i think ill try and stick it out to see how it improved
20:26.18NeoTronit has so many turnoffs to me
20:26.26NeoTronthere are good things but some things are weird
20:26.42NeoTronthe fact that gathering, and crafting, can take impossibly long time to complete is weird
20:26.55NeoTronthe lack of chat frame background too is something I despise. :P
20:27.41Pneumatusi can't see how Aion is gonna have any longevity
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20:28.27NeoTronPneumatus: Lineage 2 is still around isn't it?
20:28.39NeoTronthere are people that like to flogg themselves so why not?
20:28.43Pneumatusok, i don't see how it's gonna have any longevity for non-asians
20:29.09nicoli_si think it will
20:29.20NeoTronthere are americans that like flogging too
20:29.40NeoTronbut yeah there's one dude I saw in Cleric chat who said he played L2 for 1.5 years, playing 5-6 hours a day and still didn't make max level
20:29.50NeoTronand he liked it that way
20:32.43Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic 04v3.2.4-beta2 * r641 : Tagging as v3.2.4-beta2
20:32.44NivFreakwell if there's no endgame ;)
20:32.46Repo- Cleaned up localizations
20:32.49Repo- Several bug fixes identified by [Ammo]
20:36.54NeoTrona gmae where reaching the end game is boring, isn't much of a game
20:37.04NeoTronbut a game without end, where playing it is fun, is still a valid game
20:37.58nicoli_swell its all subjective, some people really enjoy levelling up in aion
20:38.23NeoTronI am aware
20:38.28Megalonsome people like to plane away their fingercups
20:38.30NeoTronnot syaing it's horrible. it clearly has values
20:38.33Megalonthere are weird people out there
20:38.49nicoli_splane away their fingercups? wtf does that mean
20:39.00NeoTronbut I don't think I really do personally. not because it's too slow, but because I am more of a story kind of guy. I like playing a story or stories
20:39.22nicoli_swell the quest text/backstory of aion is pretty rich from what i've seen
20:39.42nicoli_syeah it doesnt have an entire giant universe like wow does, but they do seem to put alot of work into the quest text
20:39.43NeoTronbut it ends remember
20:39.51NeoTronquest based leveling does not last
20:40.32NeoTronand there are quite a number of the "1/100" repeatable quests that involves killing something or collecting something
20:41.12nicoli_soh yeah, the quest variety could def be expanded upon
20:41.39nicoli_sbut i like the fact they have branching quests, where you can select diff choices and get diff tasks and rewards
20:45.02nicoli_sbut its got a high production value, and they seem to be pretty committed to adding new features/content, so ill stick around for a while longer
20:45.14Fiskerslaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout
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20:47.10NeoTronChampions Online has more variation sin quests in fact
20:47.33NeoTroneverything in Aion is: kill X, collect X (from mobs), Collect x (gathering) or carrot quests pretty much
20:47.45NeoTronabstract "delivery" quests too, which is carrot quests
20:48.06NeoTronthere are a few others but nothing amazingly exciting
20:48.50NeoTronAion is not revolutionary. Not even sure if I'd consider it an evolution. It's just a different face to previous concepts. Mind you, most mmorpgs are
20:49.12nicoli_syah, thats pretty much how i feel about it too
20:49.31nicoli_si wanted to give champions a shot, but dont really feel like dropping another 50 bucks
20:49.46NeoTronI found leveling in champions to be infinitely more fun than Aion
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20:50.01NeoTronbecause, well, just running around and beating stuff up is fun. it's fast paced
20:50.14NeoTronbut it is also veyr limited. you can reach max level in <4 days and at 40 there's not much to do
20:50.38nicoli_syah, i've heard the lack of content + wild balance changes suck pretty hard
20:50.40Repo10libgrouptalents-1-0: 03Zeksie * r34 LibGroupTalents-1.0.lua: Fix nil error when respeccing at trainer and grouped.
20:50.43NeoTronand, as opposed to Aion and WoW, loot doesn't "feel" meaningful. it helps a bit but not enough to make an upgrade be something you drool after
20:50.55NeoTronbalance changes is not an issue to me, only to whiners
20:51.07NeoTronyou can always respec if you don't like your previously OP power
20:51.15Fiskerslaps nicoli_s around a bit with a large trout
20:51.21Repo10libgrouptalents-1-0: 03Zeksie 043.2.2 Release 2 * r35 : Tagging as 3.2.2 Release 2
20:51.29NeoTronit's unpolished though. group/team loot modes don't even work right
20:51.51NeoTronlike half the time need/greed rolls don't seem to work and last time I tried to use master loot, trying to assign an item resulted in a CTD
20:51.55nicoli_syah, ive heard it feels pretty rushed in some areas
20:52.06nicoli_swhat u want fisker?
20:52.42Fiskeran invite to google wave :(
20:52.44Fiskerand the SC2 beta
20:52.45Fisker:(
20:52.53nicoli_sdont have either, sorry
20:53.04FiskerBlizzard is <\3 our <3
20:53.15nicoli_sbut you know youll get to use my acct when i get one, since youve kept me supplied with leak infos
20:53.32Fisker:O
20:53.46fewynok who wants to explain to me what google wave is
20:53.49fewyni keep hearing about it
20:53.52Fiskerthis conversation never took place *jedimindtrick*
20:53.56NeoTronit's like a wave at google
20:54.03NeoTronsurf on man, surf on
20:54.03Fiskerfewyn it's fuck yeah e-mail in the 21st century
20:54.51fewynwha
20:55.00Fiskerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDu2A3WzQpo <-
20:55.07Fiskerkinda explains it in rough terms
20:55.13nicoli_sok if you say so fisker, i guess i never told you you could use my acct then
20:55.42Fiskerfffffffffffuuuuuuu-
20:55.50Fiskeri should get one for doing all this work for Blizzard :(!
20:58.14SunTsuI'm still laughing my ass off because of our state tv station reporting that Yahoo and Google were "victims of so-called fisting attacks"
20:58.21nicoli_shaha
21:01.06dusthawkdo you have that on video, SunTsu?
21:01.26SunTsudusthawk: sure, just german
21:01.38dusthawk:/
21:02.11SunTsuyeah, that's really unfortunate, it's hilarious
21:04.40Fiskeronly mildly entertaining SunTsu
21:04.47Fiskeri'm still laughing about Google being hacked
21:04.59FiskerUsers being retards = Google hacked
21:05.02Fiskeri see how that fits in
21:05.45nicoli_sgoogle got hacked?
21:06.20SunTsuFisker: it's much funnier if you know that that station is really conservative, and they reported that in a very professional sounding way
21:06.36SunTsunicoli_s: No, just fisting attacks ;)
21:07.03NeoTronsounds painful
21:08.51asmodaiFlying Fists of the Northstar
21:14.40ckknightwhat's a fisting attack?
21:15.28dusthawkthat's a question your parents should answer
21:16.18XtekIt's how I was conceived.
21:16.46Balreign:s poor mother
21:18.59Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6529 Coliseum/Anubarak.lua: Bugfix.
21:19.27sylvanaarlol
21:20.48sylvanaarphishing with an asian accent
21:23.50SunTsuckknight: probably smth. close to phishing
21:24.24MikkWoho i out-gay tekkub now
21:24.27Mikk"Starcaller Mikk"
21:24.35Mikkdoesn't get much gayer than that tbh!
21:24.56durcyntry leaving off the 'Starcaller' part.
21:24.59sylvanaar"Male Pornstarcaller Mikk"
21:24.59durcynBAM
21:25.07Mikk!
21:25.17StanzillaMikk the Anal Walker
21:25.19Stanzillawins
21:25.20tekkubCocksucker Mikk :P
21:25.34MikkWtf you rimsurfer
21:25.47sylvanaar"Fisting Attack Victim Mikk"
21:25.51MikkQQ :<
21:25.58tekkubMikk the Fisted
21:26.08Mikk~#wowace--
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21:27.34sylvanaarnow you made me forget why i rdp'ed into this machine
21:28.07Mikksnork it worked
21:28.11Mikk~karma #wowace
21:28.11purl#wowace has karma of -1
21:29.07sylvanaar~purl--
21:29.20sylvanaar~karma purl
21:29.20purlpurl has karma of 31
21:30.22sylvanaar~karma--
21:30.39sylvanaar~karma karma karma chameleon
21:30.39purlkarma karma chameleon has neutral karma
21:30.45Ingelawhat is karma lol
21:30.55Ingela~karma Ingela
21:30.55purlingela has neutral karma
21:30.57Ingelazomg
21:31.00sylvanaar~karma karma
21:31.00purlkarma has karma of 6
21:31.15Ingela~karma purl
21:31.15purlpurl has karma of 31
21:31.19Pneumatus~karma chameleon
21:31.19purlchameleon has karma of 1
21:31.25Ingelawtf is that
21:31.26Ingela:D
21:31.35sylvanaaractually its
21:31.43sylvanaar~karma karma karma karma karma chameleon
21:31.43purlkarma karma karma karma chameleon has neutral karma
21:31.56Ingelakarma isn't that like do good stuff and good stuff will happen
21:32.33sylvanaarthis is internet karma
21:32.49sylvanaaryou redeem it for porn
21:32.56Ingelafuck i have neutral
21:32.56Ingela=(
21:33.02Ingela!getporn purl
21:33.11Ingelasee? doesn't work
21:36.30sylvanaar~karma ヘ(^_^ヘ)(ノ^_^)ノ
21:36.30purlヘ(^_^ヘ)(ノ^_^)ノ has neutral karma
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21:44.14Repo10all-played-laotseu: 03oXid_FoX * r170 AllPlayed-frFR.lua: AllPlayed:
21:44.17Repo- FR locale updates
21:44.31durcyn~nickometer ?(^_^)(?^_^)?
21:44.38durcyndamn.
21:45.33NeoTronlike the accuracy
21:47.05Ingela~nickometer Ingela
21:47.10IngelaYEAH
21:47.13NeoTrongold spam in Aion made slashdot. :P
21:51.37Fiskerdurcyn
21:51.42FiskerYOU NEED TO CALM THE FUCK DOWN
21:53.49durcynFisker: you need to be eaten by a polar bear :(
21:54.34Ingelahides for the polar bear
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22:02.38RepoPlease Test:
22:02.40Repo- Rating Conversion, Stat Breakdown, Stat Summary can each be set to show on ALT, SHIFT, CTRL, Always, or Never.
22:02.44Repo- Two extra default gem sets which you can toggle with ALT, SHIFT, or CTRL key
22:02.46Repo- Improved "Ignore undesirable items" option: Separate options for Cloth, Leather, Mail, and Plate items, can also set the minimum item quality
22:06.40Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r6530 Coliseum/Locales/frFR.lua: frFR Update
22:06.53vhaarrHjalte: is that the default UI font?
22:07.34Hjaltevhaarr: No, I am using tekticles to change it. But I don't believe it is much larger than average.
22:08.19vhaarryeah I guess I should make it a bit bigger
22:10.27NeoTronBigger tekticles could be misread
22:10.58NeoTron"Many of the tail sweeps with knockback effects will no longer hit players pets. " dargon nerfs
22:13.28IngelaWhitetooth, both worked fine for me
22:13.48Whitetoothgreat :D
22:14.03Ingelaalso the minimum item quality
22:14.04Ingelaworked fine
22:15.19sylvanaar~nickometer ヘ(^_^ヘ)(ノ^_^)ノ
22:15.27sylvanaarlies
22:15.41Ingelacan something be 100% lame?
22:15.52vhaarr~nickometer ^^^^^^^^
22:15.53Ingela~nickometer Lame
22:15.54sylvanaarperhaps its a logarithm
22:16.02Ingela~nickometer lame
22:16.12Ingelalame itself is not lame =(
22:16.15sylvanaar~nickometer
22:16.22sylvanaar!!
22:16.34Ingela~nickometer sylvanaar
22:16.39Ingelaboo
22:16.56sylvanaarヘ(^_^ヘ)(ノ^_^)ノ
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22:17.43Ingelaomg cornflakes are so underrated, they taste so good
22:17.43sylvanaar~nickometer ¯\(°_o)/¯
22:18.03Ingela~nickometer !"#¤%&/(()=?`
22:18.23sylvanaar~nickometer 㱬
22:18.32Ingela~nickometer #
22:18.40Ingelao.O
22:18.58Ingelawasn't meeee =(
22:19.06sylvanaar~x zh en 㱬
22:19.12sylvanaarhaha
22:19.17Ingelalol what
22:19.19Pneumatusfacepalm
22:19.28AeyanHaha
22:19.51sylvanaar~x cn en 㱬
22:20.02sylvanaarwhats the other chinese one
22:20.03Ingela~x what is that
22:20.15sylvanaar~x tw en 㱬
22:20.16AeyanLooks like a translate
22:20.18Pneumatusits zhCN or zhTW
22:20.32sylvanaaroh
22:20.35sylvanaarso its all zh
22:20.45sylvanaartheres another one i thought though
22:21.00sylvanaar~x jp en 㱬
22:21.06Pneumatusone is traditional, one is simplified
22:21.09sylvanaaryeah
22:21.09Pneumatusidk though
22:21.19sylvanaari just made up that character
22:21.27sylvanaarmaybe it doesnt mean anything
22:21.35Pneumatusyou can make up chars :o
22:21.50sylvanaar댴
22:22.01sylvanaar~x kr en 댴
22:22.19sylvanaarwell, purl cant handle that encoding
22:23.24Whitetooth~x zhtw en 宅
22:24.00sylvanaarits not a word that translates to anything
22:24.29sylvanaar~x zh en 简体中文版
22:25.21sylvanaar~x zh en 傻瓜
22:26.09sylvanaarworks the other way though
22:26.18sylvanaar~x en zh fool
22:26.23sylvanaarsee
22:26.30Whitetooth~x jp en 
22:26.40Ingelao.O
22:26.45Ingelapurl,  you're wierd
22:26.47sylvanaarthat wasnt utf8
22:27.09sylvanaar~x en jp sushi
22:27.28sylvanaar~x jp en 寿司
22:28.06Whitetooth~x en zh nerd
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22:28.36sylvanaarbookworm
22:28.51sylvanaaris how it translates back
22:29.30sylvanaaroh that reminds me of that translation thing from a few months ago - translationparty or something
22:31.00sylvanaarhttp://www.translationparty.com/#4668075
22:35.55sylvanaarthis one is a winner
22:35.57sylvanaarhttp://www.translationparty.com/#4668148
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22:38.41Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r296 / (3 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus:
22:38.45Repo- Many bugs!  Handle it!
22:38.48Repo- Fixed incorrect Soul Well size and generally not working since talent code changes.
22:38.51Repo- Fixed a bunch of errors scanning talents.
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22:52.42sylvanaaryou guys know when 3.2 was released?
22:52.58sylvanaaroh - its in my commit notes
22:55.12Repo10libkeybound-1-0: 03Tuller * r92 LibKeyBound-1.0 (10 files in 1 directory): LibKeyBound-1.0:
22:55.15RepoAdded support for mice with up to 31 buttons.
22:56.28nicoli_sthats a silly amount of mice buttons
22:56.45Tullerwell, the client supports it
22:58.04ShadowedA metatable could be wrapped around a table that tracks when an entry in that metatable is nilled right?
22:58.25ShadowedI want to say there's an entry that's called when you nil something but I can't rremember now :<
22:58.44Tullerthe crazy thing to do is uhh
22:59.14Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r175 / (4 files in 3 directories):
22:59.17RepoFixed issue with Replenishment showing ticks for every class in the tooltip.
22:59.20RepoFixed Single buffed mark of the wild from ticking Drums of the Wild.
22:59.21ShadowedIt doesn't need to be pretty, just trying to track down why a value is mysteriously disappearing from a table
22:59.23RepoAdded the runescroll/drums to details view and now sorts the sources of an aura in details by it's strength.
23:00.08TullerI don't think there's a metatable magic for tracking index nils
23:00.24ShadowedYea that's what I'm seeing :<
23:00.28Tullerthere's one for __newindex
23:00.33Tullerand you can fake it via a proxy table
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23:01.08ShadowedWouldn't that only tell you when a call is made to the table without the entry in it
23:01.24ZeksieShadowed: don't think so. there's __index, __newindex, __call according to Lua docs
23:01.34Tullerhence the need for a proxy table
23:02.37Zeksiecoulda used an __access method a few times.
23:02.58ShadowedTuller: Not sure I follow?
23:03.27Tullerbasically have a table that references another table
23:03.37Zeksiehe means have a blank table witha  meta that never has elements, and uses __index to access real tabl
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23:03.45Tullerwhere __index retrieves values from the private table, and __newindex calls a function that sets stuff
23:03.55Zeksie__newindex would get called with a nil assign?
23:04.07Tullerthat i'm not absolutely sure about
23:04.26Shadowedhrm
23:04.54ArrowmasterClassZeksie: no
23:06.35HjalteAntiarc: When I logged in just now, SexyCooldowns started giving me this error. I was using it earlier with the same settings when it worked: http://paste.wowace.com/1269/
23:06.56AntiarcHjalte: Hm, I must have embedded it wrong, I'll fix it
23:07.27WobWorkAntiarc: what makes sexycooldowns so sexy?
23:08.10ZeksieArrowmaster: just tried it, it does. if the element does not exist when you assign nil. so it will work as Tuller suggested
23:08.18AntiarcWobWork: Just sticking with the theme :P
23:09.00Zeksiein fact, any assignment seems to call __newindex
23:09.32HjalteAntiarc: Also, either a way to ignore some cooldowns or an option to disable cooldowns over x seconds/minutes/hours would be nice. My "Unhatched Jubling Egg" with 6 days cooldown was showing.
23:10.04AntiarcHjalte: Both are in now. You can set a max duration or right click a single item to blacklist it.
23:10.04ArrowmasterClass__newindex wont work if you are changing the value of an already existing index
23:10.07Antiarc(latest alpha)
23:10.34ZeksieArrowmaster: just tried it. with debug output in __newindex. i can assign and re-assign the same index over and over and it'll output it.
23:11.04Zeksiesame value, new value, nil.. whatever. all output
23:11.21ArrowmasterClassare you using a proxy table?
23:11.30Zeksiethat's the whole idea.
23:11.32ArrowmasterClassoh
23:11.39ArrowmasterClassyeah then yeah ofcourse it works
23:11.43Zeksiethat was what we were talking about ;)
23:11.56AeyanAntiarc: Any plans to add alpha change (for me, hide) on no cooldowns active?
23:12.15AntiarcAeyan: I can add it easily enough. Just haven't yet. :)
23:12.29AeyanThat's fine. Was just curious, hehe.
23:12.32AeyanThanks
23:12.56AeyanI do so like my disappearing UI elements
23:13.33AntiarcHjalte: Can you check your framexml.log for me?
23:13.38AntiarcFor errors pertaining to LibInternalCooldowns
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23:15.18HjalteAntiarc: Seems there was a lot of errors when I logged on just now.
23:15.27HjalteMight be my computers mistake
23:16.26HjalteAntiarc: 10/8 01:03:03.915  Couldn't open Interface\AddOns\SexyCooldown\Libs\LibInternalCooldowns-1.0\lib.xml - But there are tons of messages like it in there, with other libraries.
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23:16.54AntiarcDid you restart WoW after updating?
23:17.02HjalteAntiarc: Yes
23:18.20IngelaAntiarc, would it possible to track rapture with it also?
23:18.45Ingelahttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47537
23:18.52AntiarcIt's possible to track anything with it, right now it's just cooldowns but I'm going to add modules/config for tracking other things
23:19.04Ingelawonderful
23:19.10AntiarcI'll add that to LibInternalCooldowns
23:19.28Ingelai loved the addon, it's so perfect
23:20.03AntiarcAdded to LibICD, will go live in the next push. :)
23:20.15Ingelaso imbaaaaa
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23:24.32Shadowedfact
23:24.36Shadowedwiping your entire healing table is a bad idea
23:25.01Shadoweddefinitely bad
23:25.34WobWorkShadowed: but what if you spill food over the healing table?
23:25.41Shadowedprobably better
23:25.45HjalteIs taunt hit covered by the glyph or do you need to reach the spell hit cap?
23:26.23AntiarcTaunt is physical
23:26.26AntiarcSo the glyph covers it
23:28.34WobWorkunless you're a dk
23:28.41WobWorkthen your taunt is spell based
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23:30.40Ingelawhat is a healing table
23:32.23WobWork---------
23:33.02WobWorkHorse healing table
23:33.03WobWork----------------------
23:33.03WobWorksymptom | cure
23:33.03WobWorkbroken leg | shoot
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23:33.29Repo10libwrapperhealcomm-1-0: 03Shadowed 044.1-release * 212832b /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tagging as release 4.1
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23:50.55rubikAntiarc: please add Death's Choice to LibICD when you get a chance.. :P
23:51.26rubik[67703] = 47303,      -- Death's Choice (i245)
23:51.36rubik[67772] = 47464,      -- Death's Choice (i258)
23:52.12rubikoh, wth.. you have stuff in there but it's diff. spells
23:53.03Antiarcrubik: Already done
23:53.10rubikbut your spell id's are off
23:53.15AntiarcOh, I'll check then
23:53.17rubikor maybe it's the horde/alliance thing
23:53.17AntiarcOh, duh
23:53.20AntiarcI added the auras, I'll bet
23:53.38rubikoh.. hah.. could be!
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23:54.42AntiarcOkay, yeah, I had the wrong IDs
23:54.58rubikgotcha, cool
23:55.25Repo10libinternalcooldowns-1-0: 03Antiarc * r13 LibInternalCooldowns-1.0/Data.lua: Fix Death's Choice/Verdict, add Rapture (priest talent)
23:56.07rubikstupid question but how does it work with addons that use that lib (like your InternalCooldowns addon)? they'll be tagged for repackaging automagically after you pushed that lib update?
23:56.19AntiarcShould be, I think
23:56.36ShadowedMy understanding was you had to retag the library to get the latest libs
23:56.59Balreignit's not packeged while downloading?
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23:57.07NeoTronpackaging of an addon doesn't occur if a library it uses is changed afaik
23:57.30ShadowedI'm pretty sure the CPU cost would suck if they were packed while downloading :p
23:57.35Shadowedand space
23:57.38AntiarcWell, I'll be tagging a new version shortly
23:57.39Balreigntrue
23:57.39rubiki really should go back to running with disembedded libs one of these days.. hah
23:58.12rubikbut anyway.. no rush here, was just wondering
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