IRC log for #wowace on 20090916

00:00.30harlnot me there.
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00:13.57Gnarfozahmagad
00:14.10Gnarfozprofalbert: could that be the return of cowtip (sans insane cpu usage?^^)
00:14.38profalbertI hope so
00:14.53profalbertdidn't do any profiling yet
00:15.20NivFreakI'm still using cowtip =/
00:15.32NivFreakI tried to dump it, I just couldn't find something I liked to replace it
00:16.08profalbertI tried several alternatives, but they weren't cowtip
00:17.46profalbertDogTag seems to do more than just evaluating []-strings
00:20.54StanzillaGnarfoz: ckk has a ace3 port ready, just lacking a texts module
00:21.22GnarfozStanzilla: woot? ;o
00:21.28Stanzillayup :p
00:21.52GnarfozNivFreak, profalbert: agreed, I had to settle for an inferior alternative, but I just couldn't take the performance hit anymore
00:21.56Gnarfoz:\
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00:29.15profalbert-- Unfortunatelly there is no way to determine the pair mob/unit who's threat changed,
00:29.16profalbert-- so we just fire Threat event for now to update all tags.
00:29.32profalbertDogTag-Unit-3.0/Threat.lua
00:29.35ShefkiI know it sucks, sorry
00:30.03profalbertI suppose that may kill performance in 25-raid-boss-fights
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00:34.37Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * v2.1.1 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] add option to not always give a differnt mount
00:34.42Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 04v2.1.1 * bfdcba1 /: [new tag] Tagging as v2.1.1
00:39.41Gnarfozprofalbert: argh, yeah ;p but blizzard's tooltips can show that, too, can't you bastardize that somehow? :D
00:40.33profalbertShould be possible
00:40.42profalbertjust have to omit the threat-line when clearing the tooltip
00:41.37profalbertI don't use a threat-text though
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01:15.47steevsigh
01:16.02steevdoubt im ever gonna survive northrend beasts fight
01:17.21Repo10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.3.2 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
01:17.24Repo7d4fd0f: - Shadoweld was no longer detected as 'stealth' (the Spell ID changed)
01:17.27Repo5ef6c1b: - Fixes a LUA error in race condition (when clicking on a MUF and the debuff disappears while the button is pressed)
01:17.32Repo10decursive: 03Archarodim 042.4.3.2 * 52f4fa9 /: [new tag] Tagging as 2.4.3.2
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01:26.44Bribrisigh, my combatlog always stops logging and recount breaks in heroic ToC =/
01:29.05steevat least you live through the first boss? :-P
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01:38.41Groktarwe just discovered we could use raise dead on icehowl's corpse
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01:42.02Gnarfozthat does... what for you?
01:42.05Gnarfozremove the corpse?
01:42.21Gnarfozcouldn't you just use corpse explosion, like enough annoying people did on sarth for example :D
01:42.29steevyes you can
01:42.46steevour guild parks a dk alt that has it (why!?) just for that purpose
01:42.55Gnarfozhaha. :D
01:43.23steevgetting tired of dying
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02:25.51Groktaroh joy
02:25.55Groktar4 melee comp on heroic 25
02:26.00Groktarfor faction champs
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02:54.19steevasmodai: http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/9300.jpg
02:55.13steevwill go up soon as i enchant my bracers
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03:04.53steevwow... 25 heroic was..... painful
03:05.02steevgormok was still at 30% when the worms showed up
03:07.52steevwoo my ticket is gonna be serviced soon
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03:30.41Aeyanchrono
03:30.48AeyanMeh, mistell
03:30.50quiescenshand of rekoning
03:40.16RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/cowtip_luatext/. CowTip_LuaText. profalbert (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
03:40.34quiescenso.O
03:40.46Torhalquiescens: Yes, it's what you think it is.
03:41.13harlwhy does WORLD_MAP_UPDATE get fired like 1200 times per second?
03:41.46Arrowmasterbecause the map is getting updated?
03:42.11TorhalI think my GF is tricking me into building her machine.
03:42.16TorhalShe just said she'd use Linux.
03:42.42ShefkiTorhal: It's easy here, the GF uses what I give her.
03:43.18harl1200 updates per second, being in an instance without having the map open? why.. what for..
03:43.18TorhalShefki: Hah
03:43.18Arrowmasterdid see look at you and bat her eyes while she said it?
03:43.18quiescenshah
03:43.18harli can see, that an event called world_map_update is for updating the map.. d'uh
03:43.19Shefkiharl: If someone else writes their own map mod, how do you expect it to know the map is open?
03:43.22TorhalArrowmaster: Nah. She was actually rather logical about it - mentioned the lack of virii and malware.
03:43.54Arrowmasterdownside, flash sucks
03:43.58TorhalThen she had to fuck it up by saying "But I want to use MSN"
03:44.07harlShefki: i dunno.. something like checking if WorldMapFrame is visible or not?
03:44.12GroktarRecount - Damage Taken for Last Fight
03:44.17ShefkiHow would that help?
03:44.23ShefkiYou don't have to use the name WorldMapFrame
03:44.23Groktar1. Groktar 1157350 (26.2%)
03:44.26Groktarfaction champs
03:44.51quiescenshax
03:45.13Groktarall of our kills look like that
03:45.17harlbut as long as an addon DOES use WorldMapFrame, i think that it should be able to check for it
03:45.34Arrowmasterharl: for what purpose?
03:46.19Arrowmasterand are you sure that event is getting called 1200 times per second even with the map closed?
03:47.02harlat least the addon InterfaceUsage tells me that it does
03:47.16Arrowmasterthe what?
03:47.47harl'scuse me?
03:48.04Arrowmasterwhat is InterfaceUsage?
03:48.17quiescenson an unrelated note, hand of reckoning damage shows up as hand of rekoning (sic)
03:48.21harlit's called an addon. you can load it into the game.
03:48.33Arrowmasteri know that asshat
03:48.40Arrowmasterive written many
03:48.44harlyea
03:49.46Arrowmasterincluding a map addon, i find it hard to believe that event is firing 1200 times per second
03:50.22harlhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13555-InterfaceUsage.html
03:50.59Arrowmasterumm that does not tell you how many times an event is firing
03:51.19Torhal<Event Calls>
03:51.21TorhalShows how many times each event is dispatched to a frame.
03:51.31Arrowmasterto a frame
03:51.34TorhalYup
03:51.36TorhalNot per second
03:51.39Arrowmasterit probably hooks the frame
03:51.49Arrowmasterwhich means manual calls get counted too
03:52.04TorhalSo a poorly-written AddOn will show 1200 times.
03:52.33TorhalAnd if it's actually doing it that many times per second, I'm wondering how you're not getting 0FPS.
03:52.35Arrowmastertheres nothing wrong with tail recursion when done right
03:53.01harlall i wanted to know is why it's (probably) being called upon that often..
03:53.26Arrowmasterits not
03:53.31quiescenswould the description in question also mean that if you had 5 addons listening to world_map_updated that world_map_updated would be listed as having been dispatched 5 times as much?
03:53.32Arrowmasterlets just leave it at that
03:54.01steevbleh, the gm couldn't find it
03:54.42Arrowmasterhttp://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw26912.jpg
03:54.42steevso its been passed on to "higher ups"
03:54.44ArrowmasterMY EYES
03:55.05Arrowmasterwho the fuck uses that fucked up shitty ass font on any kinda of even attempted debug tool
03:55.13steevpurple IS awesome
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03:55.34Arrowmasterlook at the numbers
03:56.38TorhalArrowmaster: Apparently you've never used TipTac. Same look.
03:56.58TorhalAnd yah, the dipping up and down is horrendous.
03:57.38Arrowmasterno ive know for a long time to say away from aezay's stuff
03:58.11Arrowmasterand ive always used tinytip since it was created
03:58.39quiescensI used cowtip ):
03:58.49GnarfozExaminer is neat.
03:59.15Gnarfozand I doubt the font would look like that for me, yay global font replacement
03:59.18Arrowmasteri looked at the code when it was new
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03:59.40Arrowmasterit wasnt prety
04:01.34steevso does the combat log show looting?
04:01.38steevraw combat log
04:01.45quiescensdoubt it
04:01.58Arrowmasterno
04:02.03steevf me
04:03.00Yssarilsteev: what are you trying to do?
04:04.01steevYssaril: figure out who looted what monday night
04:04.13Yssarilahh
04:04.16steevsince whatever guildlaunch uses is f'd
04:04.25steevits only showing 7 loots for the entire run
04:05.07steevand we downed thorim, freya, mimiron, vez, and yogg
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04:27.00Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * b2.4-1-gcdcce78 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Quick change to make sure GetRaidDifficulty exists as the Chinese version of WoW is still on 3.1.x it looks like
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04:49.15steevhah
04:49.26steevgranted, well fed was still up
04:49.41steevhttp://ubersekret.com/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_091509_233650.jpg - able to hit almost 7k ap on target dummy
04:49.57steevim taking away 80 from that cuz thats the food i had
04:56.01Fiskerslaps steev around a bit with a large trout
04:56.07Fiskeri don't feel well steev
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05:22.26Fiskerckknight my friend
05:23.34Whitetoothmy addon comments keep getting spammed with automatic fishing bot link, I think I've deleted it 2 dozen times
05:25.10Zynnomelinom
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05:29.36Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r295 / (2 files in 1 directory):
05:29.38Repomore adjustments for WG tracking. reset it on tuesday with dailies and on saturday with dailies.
05:29.56Fiskerssd's orionshock
05:30.04orionshock?
05:30.30asmodaiok that's bizarre
05:30.38asmodaiin Underbelly, early in the morning
05:30.49asmodaithere's a rat talking to 4 turtles
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05:39.08quiescenshmm
05:39.45quiescenswhat causes OnDisable thingies for ace3 addons to run?
05:39.51quiescensor is that all just custom
05:42.17ShefkiCustom
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05:45.51Arrowmasterasmodai: thats always there
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06:08.02AdirelleMikk: you there ?
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06:11.53Adirelleorionshock: about sick-of-clicking-dailies, I think that WG quests are reset tuesday as a fixed day, but then it is 4 days later
06:12.18Adirellee.g. if you forget to do the quests afirst time before friday you're screwed to do them twice in the week
06:12.39Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2277 / (4 files in 4 directories): Added missing wintergrasp rewards
06:12.44orionshockAdirelle: that's accounted for
06:16.28Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2278 Core/AtlasLoot.lua: Adjustment for use with Atlas r712
06:16.30orionshockAdirelle: wait,
06:16.53orionshockAdirelle: you mean that if you did the first round on thursday, they wouldn't reset again till monday for you?
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06:37.10Groktarpolitely turns Repo into a naga
06:37.33Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2280 AtlasLayout/instances.en.lua: Fixed Horde/Alliance loot switching
06:43.01Fiskerpolitely covers Groktar in farts
06:43.18Groktarconbusts within Fisker's small intestine
06:43.22Groktar*combusts
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07:01.19mitch0would it  be possible to install a simple filter for addon comments? I got the same fishing-bot spam like 5 times already
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07:11.00orionshockin aceDB, when i change the profile, does it change the actual table on the .profile key?
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07:17.31mitch0orion: a quick look on the code suggests it does
07:17.54orionshock<PROTECTED>
07:19.14mitch0I could be wrong, but then again, I guess it'd be fairly trivial to test with a simple print() :)
07:20.01orionshocksomeone asked for profile support in SOCD...
07:20.32orionshock& i use those profile tables as a core aspect.. but i guess a simple :Enable() / Disable() on the module on profile change isn't alot to ask
07:21.20Fiskeraccidentally the whole orionshock
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07:39.31mitch0is it possible to delay loading of an addon without some sort of loadmanager addon?
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07:39.56nevcairielno
07:40.14mitch0ok
07:41.23Groktarhuggles nevcairiel
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07:42.34orionshockmitch0: you can, but requires black magic. eaiser to use AddonLoader
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07:44.17mitch0orionshock: meh, I'll avoid black magic just to get rid of the Ace3 CPU luggage off my back ;)
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07:45.16orionshockdosn't use ace3, just neat trickery with loadstring and an event handler
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07:45.57Groktarwhat's loadstring
07:46.12mitch0no, I mean, I'd only need this stuff to avoid getting all the CPU blame. loadstringing just for this is definitely out of the question ;)
07:46.16orionshock!api loadstring
07:46.16lua_botDocumentation for 'loadstring' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-loadstring
07:46.23Groktarthat's cheating
07:46.56orionshockGroktar: i loadstring half my options table
07:47.00orionshockwell.. most of it actually
07:47.19mitch0orion: ah, that wouldn't help me anyway
07:47.22Groktaroh, i see
07:47.30mitch0I'd still need to OptDep all the stuff I use
07:47.41mitch0and for some reason I get all the CPU usage for those...
07:47.58orionshocki figure a function storing a string that's loadstring'ed is smaller than a function holding about 40 tables
07:48.24mitch0the only thing I hard-embed is LDB, but I don't think it has anything to do with eating up CPU while browsing the addon options in the blizz panel
07:53.55Repo10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme * r92 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag v2.4 for changeset e34b32bcb069
07:53.59Repo- add in initial support for making indicators colored by class (new option)
07:54.02RepoThanks for the idea, Shez!
07:57.40FiskerGroktar
07:57.49Fiskerno mail = i'm superrageman
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07:59.51GroktaroO
08:02.38Groktari frapsed our twin valkyr attempts from last night
08:02.46theoddone33heroic I assume
08:02.48Groktaryeah
08:02.48theoddone33I've heard it's tough
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08:02.54theoddone33not sure why exactly
08:03.01Groktarthis same person kept missing the balls
08:03.07Groktarwiped out the melee every single attempt
08:03.21Fiskerhaha
08:03.22Groktarhalf the time she would get hit by the wrong balls and die
08:03.30Groktarother half she would just whiff
08:03.31theoddone33does getting a wrong colored ball one shot you in heroic?
08:03.32FiskerWe're doing CoS? I thought it was CoT
08:03.39FiskerCoT is CoS dimwit
08:03.40Fiskerdurr
08:03.41Groktarno
08:03.46Groktarbut it hurts
08:03.51FiskerDURR
08:04.10Groktari intentionally get hit by the wrong colored ones when i tank
08:04.27theoddone33huh
08:04.49Groktarwe didn't have anyone getting the balls coming from behind me
08:04.50theoddone33I really like the design of that fight in general
08:04.58Groktarbut we changed our strat some tonight
08:05.06Groktarso i didn't have to do it tonight
08:05.06theoddone33haven't tried it on heroic yet, we're still wiping on easy stuff :(
08:05.21theoddone33"easy" nothing in heroic is really a cake walk
08:05.22Groktarwe wasted like six attempts on faction champs
08:05.29Groktarit was a really gay comp
08:05.48Fiskeri really hope they tune down the randomness on gormok a bit :(
08:06.05theoddone33I think our raid dps is just on the border of being able to down beasts in heroic
08:06.13Groktarhuntard, spriest, ret pally, rogue, warrior, death knight,  disc priest, tree drood, resto shaman
08:06.18Groktarhmm
08:06.19theoddone33but people die so we don't down it
08:06.23Groktarare there only 9 mobs?
08:06.31Groktarstill, 4 melee and 3 healeres is :(
08:06.53theoddone33I had a bunch of bad luck tonight reg
08:07.00Groktarwe finally won when all the melee decided to beat on me for the whole fight
08:07.05theoddone33in reg
08:07.06Groktari took 1.3 million damage that attempt
08:07.07Groktar>.>
08:07.09Groktarheroic
08:07.13theoddone33yeah
08:07.18Adirelle|workhrm, is there any restrictions on the number of debuffs one can detect on a target (like a raid boss) ?
08:07.30Groktar80?
08:07.34theoddone33melee on tank is pretty nice
08:07.35Groktaridk for sure
08:07.37Groktarbut it's a lot
08:07.41Groktaryeah
08:07.50Groktarespecially when it was time to shockwve the priest heal
08:07.56Groktari'd knock out all the melee too
08:09.05theoddone33I still haven't downed anub'arak in 25m
08:09.07theoddone33it's dumb
08:09.18GroktaroO
08:09.18Groktar:(
08:09.18theoddone33they keep kicking me out of raid
08:09.19theoddone33or not inviting me
08:09.22Adirelle|workdamn it, it seems sometimes my code is missing auras
08:09.25quiescensi've done anub'arak in 5m
08:09.28quiescens!
08:09.28Groktarwe bring alts to reg anub
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08:09.39theoddone33I need that trinket
08:09.44theoddone33but it's hard when I'm not in raid
08:09.59Groktarrunning two 25 mans = extra loots
08:10.03theoddone33I think my solution will be to do less dps
08:10.09Groktar5 10 man groups
08:11.27theoddone33yeah they kicked me out of the 10m group last week too
08:11.40theoddone33we can only field 2 groups
08:11.50theoddone33one has 4/5 10h down
08:11.54theoddone33the other sucks
08:12.19Groktarwe had two groups clear 10h
08:12.27Groktarthe other killed twins
08:12.34theoddone33nice
08:12.46Groktarunfortunately the one that didn't kill twins was mine
08:12.48theoddone33this is the best guild I've been in but it's still kind of frustrating
08:12.56Groktarwe kinda fucked up the groups
08:13.12FiskerZeksie
08:13.15Fiskeryou disappoint me
08:13.42Groktarthird group killed beasts after like 5 attempts, then wiped about 12 times on jaraxxus
08:13.48Groktarhad to come back on monday
08:13.57theoddone33how many days do you raidD?
08:14.00Groktargot to anub pretty quick
08:14.25Groktar1 for normal 25, 2 for hard 25, 1 for 10 mans, 1 for algalon/finishing 10 mans
08:14.42theoddone33there's a 3 day a week guild working on 25h twins recruiting, just not for my class :(
08:14.44Groktarbut we only got a few attempts before the raid night was over
08:15.11Groktarthe normal 25 and 10 man days should get really short in the next week or so
08:15.20Groktarnormal 25s only take us an hour
08:15.34Groktarbut it ends up taking about 3.5 to get both groups through
08:15.41Groktarjust because setting up the groups is a pita
08:15.46theoddone33hm yeah
08:16.01Groktartho we'll probably cut out one of the normal 25s in a couple weeks
08:16.09Groktaronce most people have their gear and badges
08:16.58theoddone33I hate looking at premo's mage and seeing 4/5 t9 245 gear
08:17.06theoddone33we've still got people with 0 tokens
08:17.07Groktarheh
08:17.10Fiskeri have become...
08:17.12FiskerSUPER RAGE MAN
08:17.14Groktari could have 4/5 if i wanted
08:17.29Groktarbut they're not enough of an upgrade and i don't want to be a dick to everyone else
08:17.37Groktarhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Daggerspine&n=Groktar
08:17.43asmodaiGood morning my loveable leeches ^^
08:17.47theoddone33I haven't even gotten enough badges for 2/5
08:17.51theoddone33if I had the trophies
08:17.51Groktar!!!
08:18.10asmodaiGroktar: *pat pat*
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08:18.17Groktari bought the ring, gloves, shoulders, and have 81 left
08:18.17theoddone33well I bought the 45 badge ring
08:18.27theoddone33now i have 60 of them
08:19.06Groktarthinking of buying the 245 badge helm
08:20.12theoddone33I got in a pug 25m last week and killed twins, and that was the only badges I got all week
08:20.18Groktar:(
08:20.30theoddone33I think I was on vacation or something
08:20.32Groktarcan't pug a 10m?
08:20.44theoddone33I probably could but there aren't many good ones
08:20.45Groktari was the only main in the one i did monday night
08:20.49Groktarhehe
08:21.04ZeksieFisker: that's ok. i'm happy to dissappoint you
08:21.44theoddone33we raid 4 nights a week and the week days raiding is pretty much the only thing I have time to do
08:22.05theoddone33so no daily heroics and such
08:22.19Groktar:(
08:22.41theoddone33even if I had badges though I'm not sure I could bring myself to buy the 232 gear
08:22.47theoddone33just for set bonuses
08:32.57Fiskerzomgbuffs doesn't work with poisons properly Zeksie
08:33.06Fiskeratleast not on my heirloom mainhand
08:34.59Zeksieoooh. yeh, it wouldn't...
08:35.26Repo10cowtip_luatext: 03profalbert 07master * v0.1-beta LuaText.lua: [+1 commit] remove debug-output
08:35.30Zeksiei put a check in so it wouldn't try to apply onto quest shit like lances... I'll have to refine the check :)
08:35.31Repo10cowtip_luatext: 03profalbert 04v0.1-beta * 61da3b8 /: [new tag] tag as v0.1-beta
08:37.31Fiskeri got my ssd!
08:37.43Zeksieis it uber?
08:39.35Zeksiemmmh. jnwhiteh: looking up GetItemInfo() on wowprog. the description for quality says you should look at the description for GetItemInfo() instead... :p
08:40.36AntiarcFunkeh`: Ping
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08:41.48mitch0lua> math.abs(-1)
08:41.50lua_botmitch0: 1
08:42.01AntiarcFunkeh`: Staggering Stomp on Gormok looks like it's a 21-second timer (20.9-21.6 second delay range according to MobSpells). Any chance for a BW timer on it?
08:42.01theoddone33http://worldoflogs.com/reports/lfaNabn105PNhoLm/sum/damageDone/?s=9565&e=9756 this kind of thing really makes me think I fail at my clas
08:42.02theoddone33s
08:42.05AntiarcOn Gormok
08:42.20Repo10battleground: 03Ammo * r25 / (4 files in 3 directories): add time left, final score and bases to win to arathi basin
08:42.35jnwhitehZeksie: thanks, I'll look into it.
08:42.56jnwhitehtekkub: ping
08:43.08jnwhitehhrm
08:43.10jnwhitehI made that change.
08:43.13jnwhitehweird.
08:43.40Zeksieeww. what does 'obstructed' mean on an svn local copy..
08:43.56FiskerFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU
08:45.00jnwhitehZeksie: fixed
08:45.05Zeksie:)
08:45.50theoddone33that stupid mage had 86% effective fireball crit
08:45.58tekkubeh?
08:46.00Fiskermy ssd serial number is "1XFAG"
08:46.00Fisker:(
08:46.51Repo10battleground: 03Ammo * r26 / (2 files in 2 directories): combine final score and time left into one button
08:48.14Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r110 ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: Fixed weapon enchants not applying to heirloom items.
08:48.47ZeksieFisker: try that
08:49.03Fiskerlashes his tongue after Zeksie
08:49.15Zeksiekeep your tongue to yourself!
08:51.04theoddone33well I guess I know why the top guild on our server is ahead of us now
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08:51.24theoddone33it's because they pull 14k more raid dps
08:51.27Fiskercheating?
08:51.28Fiskerdamn
08:53.10asmodaitheoddone33: 14k ain't a small number XD
08:53.21theoddone33yes it's not
08:53.48Brunersthats like +1k dps on all your dps'ers ?
08:53.55Zeksiestacking hat rogues or something?
08:54.11theoddone33I dunno
08:54.16theoddone33here's another funny thing
08:54.22theoddone33we bloodlusted on the attempt I'm comparing, they didn't
08:54.25quiescens(mental image of a bunch of hats stacked up into a pile)
08:54.34theoddone33and they beat us by that much, a little more
08:54.56Repo10big-wigs: 03yhpdoit * r6298 Coliseum/Locales/koKR.lua:  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
08:54.59RepoUpadate koKR Local :
08:55.02RepoL.jormungars_trigger
08:55.04asmodaiIt's funny btw, I remember a time when any raid needed a warlock, nowadays it's quite common to see warlock-free raids.
08:55.05RepoL.icehowl_trigger
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08:56.19orionshockwhen a new profile is created in acedb, arn't the defaults copied in?
08:56.28nevcairielthey are.
08:56.29Zeksieshould be
08:57.56orionshockdosn't seem to be
08:58.56orionshocklike i;ve got a sub table under profiles where i keep the module state (enabled/disabled) and when i create a new profile it dosn't disable the module.
08:59.48Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6299 Core/BossPrototype.lua: fix line 65 global self = nil error
08:59.52orionshockah shit, never mind
08:59.56orionshocki know what it's doing
09:00.02Zeksieglad to help..
09:01.40orionshocki was thinking, all the other modules default to enabled via the OnInit function declaring a default of enabled via ItterateModules(), so a module that i default off dosn't stay off because i overwote the value >.>
09:06.25Repo10big-wigs: 03yhpdoit * r6300 Ulduar/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR update :
09:06.27RepoL.detonation_say
09:16.07Fiskeryou're so awesome Zeksie
09:16.19Fiskerbtw [Ammo] when can we customize alerts in bigwigs? :3
09:17.16[Ammo]nevah
09:17.43Fisker:(
09:18.26FiskerCan you have several inv keywords in ora3 btw? like having a commaseperated list of invkeywords?
09:18.39[Ammo]no
09:21.16Fiskerk
09:22.29Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r296 / (9 files in 1 directory):
09:22.32Repoadd support for profiles at request of:  ZeroCool on curse.com. Why you'd use profiles is a bit beyond me.. but OK...
09:24.48orionshock^^ that taught me that trying to read debug spam about profile changing when your debug function is dependant ON a profile options is not conducive to troubleshooting.
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09:28.06Groktaryay almost done
09:28.23Groktarencoding every twins wipe and then uploading to both youtube and filefront
09:28.25Groktartaking forever
09:28.25Groktarlol
09:28.46quiescensif you didn't wipe
09:28.48nevcairielwho wants to see wipes? <.<
09:28.55quiescensit wouldn't be so timeconsuming
09:29.10Groktarit's for us
09:29.15Groktartrying to figure out who the failures are
09:29.24Groktarsince we only have a limited number of attempts
09:29.39Groktari probably could have just done the last 3 or so
09:29.56nevcairieland why do you double-upload? just let people watch it on one place <.<
09:30.13Groktarbecause people want both
09:30.24nevcairielso tell people to diaf
09:30.30Groktarit wouldn't be such a big deal if i could queue files on filefront like youtube
09:30.36Groktarso i could just start it and go to bed
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09:35.26asmodaihttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/09/actiblizzard-ceo-kotick-policy-rewards-profits-removes-fun.ars
09:35.30asmodaidid you guys read this?
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09:37.48nevcairielblizzard didnt let themself being controlled by vivendi either, they won't change much =p
09:38.43Fiskeraww man
09:39.06Fiskeri lost roll to ilvl 251 gladiator legs :(
09:41.53asmodainevcairiel: I hope not, no :)
09:42.10Fiskersee you guys in a few minutes!
09:43.00asmodaiLets all hide and surprise Fisker!
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09:55.45nevcairielmm i wonder how this beatiful 27" screen would look on my desk
09:56.49asmodainevcairiel: probably like 27"
09:56.50asmodai:P
09:57.09nevcairieli have nothing to compare the size to
09:57.13nevcairieli only have a 22" now
09:57.24nevcairieland i want a bigger screen
09:57.45[Ammo]52" wallmounted gogogo
09:57.57nevcairielthats not in my budget :P
09:58.23[Ammo]I played wow at a friend on that, nice immersive raiding :)
09:58.25nevcairielI'm looking at the "Samsung 275T plus", and it looks so good
09:59.53asmodai[Ammo]: that must be nuts to see
10:00.14nevcairielI don't think i could effectively play on such a big screen
10:00.24nevcairieltoo much eye movement
10:00.24Wobinnevcairiel: I could make some -terrible- penis joke here =P
10:00.42nevcairieland i was wondering when someone came up with that Wobin :P
10:02.15Wobinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0htnMgzCN64&feature=PlayList&p=AE183EA052DA368E&index=0&playnext=1
10:03.24Wobinand to think I stumbled onto this channel from a video with these two playing the same guitar
10:03.30nevcairielBut then again, i should probably really save the money and buy some furniture when i finally move after my bachelor thesis :P
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10:14.09sb|worknevcairiel: 27 is too big :/
10:14.23nevcairieli dont want to play on it, or anything :D
10:14.27sb|workoh hm...
10:14.38nevcairielall i do is coding and watching movies
10:14.38nevcairiel:D
10:18.51asmodaiThe Call of Flame talent of shaman says damage done by Fire totems, I assume that refers only to damage done by Magma, Fire Nova, and Searing Totem, and not for stuff like Flametongue's buff to increase damage of party members, right?
10:20.45Navvflametongue does not do damage
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10:21.18asmodaiNavv: flametongue totem gives a buff to party members that boosts spell damage
10:21.28asmodaiBut no direct damage, no.
10:21.42asmodaiSo in short, it refers to direct damage done *by* the totem itself?
10:21.55Navvyes
10:22.03asmodaiGotcha.
10:22.22asmodaiThen I wonder why so many shaman enhancement talent builds include points in Call of Flame.
10:22.34FiskerRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEEEEE
10:22.40asmodaiYou hardly ever want to drop any of the fire totems in a raid or instance.
10:22.41Navvbecause 15% increase to magma totem is nice
10:22.51Navvand you have near 100% uptime on it
10:22.52asmodaiNavv: True, but it can also be a major threat pain.
10:22.58Navvmagma totem causes 0 threat
10:23.05asmodaiEh? Seriously?
10:23.17Navvyes, you can scan through patch notes, it was there at some point
10:23.35asmodaiOh, now that's interesting to know.
10:23.47Navvtypically, enhancement shamans use magma totem constantly
10:24.01Navvunless its a fight where you dont want to ae damage around the dude you are killing
10:24.07Megalonand, what talent would you take instead?
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10:24.49asmodaiRight now I tend to drop tremor totem/strength of earth (depends on the situation), flametongue, mana spring/healing stream, and windfury/wrath of air
10:25.05asmodaiMegalon: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Stormrage&cn=Dionise&gn=Low+Landers
10:25.44Navvconvection is near pointless nowadays
10:26.04Navvand dropping flametongue is of course dependant on your group/raid
10:26.09Megalonconvection
10:26.14asmodaiNavv: I'm slowly finding that out yes, now that my gear is getting to a proper state.
10:26.18Megalondon't think there are any enhancers out there
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10:26.20Megalonrunning oom
10:26.29Navvno, nowadays it is near impossible
10:26.30Navvwith 1 min SR
10:26.36Navvbefore that, it was very difficult
10:26.39asmodaiMegalon: I did at first. Heck, I ran with water shield for a while as enhancement :|
10:26.50Megalon:C
10:26.52asmodaiThat was before SR got buffed to 1 minute cooldown.
10:26.58Navvhow do you run oom
10:27.02Navvif you dont use magma totem?
10:27.15asmodaiI don't seem to now, no.
10:27.26Navvi mean, even before this SR change
10:27.29Navvi didnt run oom on general hardmode
10:27.34Navvusing magma totem
10:27.55Navvjust had to pay more attention to the cycle, is all
10:28.00Navvie, not clip it hugely
10:28.07asmodaiNavv: Clip what?
10:28.11Navvmagma totem
10:28.14asmodaiAh
10:28.38asmodaiI guess my OOM was perhaps more due to running with more fully geared people.
10:28.40Navvyou should have improved windfury, unless your raid/group has a frost spec dps DK
10:29.06asmodaiThey hardly ever stopped, whereas I was in need of breaks at times.
10:29.14asmodaiAnyway, it seems that I hardly run OOM at the moment no.
10:29.20Navvalso, improved shields is of debatable use, without t9 2piece, and even then
10:29.24Navvi dunno if its good
10:29.30Navvi'd move those points to improved SoE
10:29.35Navv(enhancing totems)
10:29.37Fiskerhey Megalon
10:29.41Fiskeri got my ssd :(
10:29.52asmodaiHahaha, was fun last night, heroic UK run. For some reason the druid tree died and a warrior. Before he could ask me to off heal i had already taken over.
10:30.11asmodaiNavv: Mmm, it's less off an interruption in the cycle though with improved shields.
10:30.25Navvhm?
10:30.37sb|workFisker: so its broken, right?
10:30.51Megalonits broken? nice to ehar
10:30.53Megalonhear
10:30.58asmodaiIf you have have 3 up, you lose them pretty quickly, so you interrupt your cycle to reapply them.
10:31.00sb|workyea
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10:31.18Navvyou have 9 lightning shields with static shock
10:31.27asmodaioh wait
10:31.28Navvwhich i presume is what you are using, or if not, should be using
10:31.28asmodaisorry
10:31.33asmodaiyeah, confusing two
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10:33.39asmodaiNavv: like this then: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#hVbhqZhxxcoxdIhusRuVo ?
10:34.32Navvi have about that yes
10:34.39Navvdrop 2 points from improved int
10:34.45Wobin<PROTECTED>
10:34.47Navvpretty useless dpswise, move them to that improved shields if you want
10:34.52WobinI've got one mace from htoc
10:34.53Navvor, 1 point more to call of flame
10:34.56Navvor, if you feel you die
10:35.01Navvtake elemental warding
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10:41.36asmodaiIf I die it's more due to getting one boss ability on my ass followed up by his special attack XD
10:43.12Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6301 Core/BossPrototype.lua: Fix the listeners.
10:43.22asmodaiHad that last night while healing in that arena ring, this paladin does his radiance ability, and I was at the utmost edge, had to wait for the tremor pulse, then wanted to heal and he throws his hammer in my face. Dropped me hard.
10:44.27asmodaiWobin: enhancement is quite nice in general.
10:45.03Wobinasmodai: how gear dependant is it?
10:45.14WobinI mean, I'm ele/resto atm
10:45.29Wobinand what stats should I be looking for, on gear?
10:45.34asmodaiwell, resto, you *do* need your int and mp5
10:45.44asmodaiwater shield + minor glyph of water shield help a lot
10:46.27asmodaiI focused on optimising chain heal, with some minor lesser healing wave tweaks.
10:46.47asmodaiSo in that area I am doing fine, but at the moment I still notice some mana issues with very long protracted fights.
10:46.51asmodaiSo I need more mp5 for sure.
10:46.57asmodaiBut, it can also be very effective.
10:47.12asmodaiEarth shield + rip tide might mean you have a while before you need to heal someone
10:47.23asmodaiAnd when you do and earthliving procs it also means some nice healing.
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10:49.54Groktarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRBbkgO5Cy8
10:50.01Groktaraudio on the pull >.>
10:50.01Fiskerfffffffuuuuu-
10:50.55Groktargogo groktar's kermit voice
10:50.57Groktar>.>
10:51.54Fiskerah
10:52.02asmodaiWobin: for enhancement
10:52.04Fiskeri think i found out why Windows 7 is taking so long to install
10:52.08Groktary
10:52.13Fiskerjust tried copying a file to my USB stick
10:52.15Fisker1,5MB/s
10:52.16Fiskerlols
10:52.25Groktarpounces Fisker
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10:52.27asmodaiWobin: agi, int, sta, +ap, +crit, +hit
10:52.38Wobinasmodai: yeah, gear stuff for enh =)
10:52.40WobinI'm good on resto =)
10:52.41Groktarthat sounds like molten core gear
10:52.43Fiskerthis sucks though
10:52.54Groktarexcept without the crit
10:53.08asmodaiWobin: Since Mental dexterity gives you 100% of int as AP.
10:53.34Wobinasmodai: I heard strength was a desired stat?
10:53.44Groktarnot since tbc
10:53.51Groktari think
10:53.52asmodaiWobin: str? hardly ever use it
10:54.04Groktaranyway, are they going to take all int off mail physical dps gear?
10:54.05asmodaimy str is only 152
10:54.17Groktarsince hunters will use focus?
10:54.38asmodaiand that's only because my Cloak of Peaceful Resolutions has +str.
10:54.43asmodaiOtherwise I'd use base str
10:55.16WobinGroktar: You should sing "The Rainbow Connection" over vent when wiping =)
10:55.22Groktarlol
10:55.35asmodai"It's not easy being green."
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11:19.10Repo10callbackhandler: 03Nevcairiel * r7 CallbackHandler-1.0/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua:
11:19.13RepoBail out early in the Register function if we're trying to register the exact same callback function.
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11:26.21RepoWorked more on ticket 808, refining the jewelcrafting database.
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11:49.25Repoempty isle of conquest module for testing and capturing the events
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11:56.43[SW]Dodgeis there a way to get an event or something if my AceConfigDialog is closed?
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11:59.20Elkanohmm... why doesn't button:SetNormalTexture(texture) change the texture? :/
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12:06.45[SW]DodgeElkano: i do button.texture = _G[("%sIcon"):format(button:GetName())] and tehn later button.texture:SetTexture(texture)
12:07.20[SW]Dodgeor dont you mean a actionbutton ? :D
12:08.02Elkanono, a simple button
12:08.14[SW]Dodgeah well, then i dont know, sorry :D
12:08.54Elkanowell, I could try to change the texture directly... hnmm
12:09.14Pneumatusi nearly had a heart attack when i saw 15 new PMs on wowace just now :o
12:10.18[SW]Dodgewant more pms? :P
12:10.46Elkanooh, I think I found my problem ^^ \\
12:10.53ZeksieElkano: would double check the texture paths etc. first
12:10.56Zeksietada ;)
12:11.10Zeksiealways a favorite.
12:11.19Pneumatusi got invited to a pm convo, didnt realise every unread message would flag as unseen
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12:16.55Wobin<PROTECTED>
12:16.56Wobin><
12:25.49asmodaiNavv: Now I am curious, major glyphs, windfury weapon, stormstrike, but what of the third? Right now I have lightning shield, but what otherwise? Lava lash? Shocking? Feral Spirit?
12:26.33Navvstormstrike is the big one, after that it's more to your tastes
12:26.38Navvi use windfury/feral spirits
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12:33.12Repo10bazooka (experimental): 03mitch0 * r22 Bazooka.lua: drag and drop plugins with highlight and stuff
12:37.04mitch0wtb nice 32x32 .tga for highlight overlay (gold-ish color, gradient alpha fade near edges :)
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12:44.50Zeksieuse texbrowser to look for one
12:49.17Fiskerslaps Zeksie around a bit with a large trout
12:51.42ElkanoInterface\Buttons\UI-Common-MouseHilight ?
12:53.35pb_ee1slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout
12:53.45pb_ee1hey! we got ze zame trout !
12:54.00Fiskeroh cool
12:54.10pb_ee1ho, noes
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12:58.43asmodaiNavv: Why would an elemental build use enhancement's Elemental Weapons?
12:59.59asmodaiRestoration I can figure out for the earthliving buff, but elemental...
13:01.20Wobinasmodai: flametongue buff?
13:02.04Navvflametongue weapon, yes
13:02.13Wobin30% extra spellpower is nothing to cough at
13:02.21Wobin(extra from the buff)
13:02.25asmodairereads flametongue's description
13:02.42asmodaiah
13:02.59asmodaiincreases total spell damage by 211 @ rank 10
13:03.11asmodaiFeck, I totally missed that.
13:03.34asmodaiOnly focused on the damage component in combination with lava lash
13:03.40asmodaiNow I feel silly.
13:04.26asmodaiSo that would be ~274 additional SP
13:04.31asmodaithat's definitely nice
13:04.41Navvspell damage
13:04.52asmodaierrr, ah yes
13:05.33asmodai*sigh*
13:05.39asmodaiReally need to reread all this.
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13:07.11asmodaiThen again, at least I want to better my toon ^^
13:07.19Wobins'true
13:07.23asmodaiSee so many playing the class who have no clue what they're doing >_<
13:07.24Wobinlearning is good
13:07.50Wobinalthough recently, I have to say, I've been ignoring dps
13:08.00WobinI've become a decent tank and healer
13:08.23FtH|Daemonauuh 20 people just got kicked from the server and can't connect anymore now, anyone else got disconnected? strange stuff (euro)
13:08.34asmodaiMy minor experience as a healer really shows you have to build up a feeling for it.
13:08.36Pneumatusfine here
13:08.42asmodai~wowalert
13:08.43purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
13:08.48Pneumatusasmodai: that's like the key to being a good healer
13:08.54Pneumatusanyone can spam spells mindlessly
13:09.16asmodaiWell, at least my overhealing was also too much.
13:09.32Pneumatusoverhealing doesnt matter as long as people don't die
13:09.41Wobinand as long as you're not running out of mana
13:09.51Fiskeryay FtH|Daemona
13:09.56Fiskeri got my ssd
13:10.01asmodaiPneumatus: Sure, but if I can put it off one second longer to more effectively heal, it means the fight can last 1 second longer ;)
13:10.10steevgrrr
13:10.12Fiskerand then i found out i had no internet explorer
13:10.13Pneumatusif you keep everyone alive then you win
13:10.13Fiskerso i QQ'd
13:10.15steevf uuuuuuuu
13:10.15Wobinalthough if you have a low overheal, it does mean that you're not just mindlessly spamming stuff
13:10.27asmodaiPneumatus: I'm getting much better at that.
13:10.32asmodaiI doubt it's just me
13:10.32steevstupid blizzard
13:10.32Pneumatussometimes overheal is good though Wobin
13:10.39steevall 1h maces with str on em are too f'n fast
13:10.41WobinPneumatus: depends on the situation
13:10.43asmodaibut do you guys also feel slightly failing if someone just suddenly dies?
13:10.45WobinPAtchwerk, sure
13:10.50Wobinasmodai: yeah =)
13:10.57asmodaias if you could've prevented it somehow
13:10.58steevasmodai: depends
13:11.01Wobinasmodai: except usually, it's unavoidable
13:11.04Pneumatusdiscpriests can overheal plenty and are still useful :)
13:11.23WobinShaman tend to overheal less
13:11.33Wobincause the healing does a lot of the thinking for us
13:11.46steevif they "suddenly" die because they accidentally taunt/dg/overaggro - i don't feel failing at all, and i point and laugh
13:11.52Pneumatusbut yeh, it's all about getting a good feel for healing, working out the urgency of when people need healing
13:12.01steevon the opposite side of that, when it happens to me, i do feel failing
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13:12.03Wobinif they get oneshot, then usually, there was no hope in saving them anyway =)
13:12.19Wobinif they were stuck at low health for a while, then dying, then yeah, that's a healer fail
13:12.23asmodaiI just hate it when the (lesser) healing wave takes so long to complete in order to save someone who suddenly fell quite low on hp
13:12.34Wobinasmodai: that's why you prep with riptide
13:12.43Fiskeri'm too fucking fast for you steev :(
13:12.52asmodaiWobin: In what sense? To be able to crit heal?
13:13.00Navvand to give an instant heal
13:13.02Wobinfor one thing it heals them =)
13:13.06asmodairofl
13:13.14Wobinand for healing wave, it reduces the cast time
13:13.22Wobinor is it lhw
13:13.25Navvhw
13:13.28Navvlhw it gives crit
13:13.29Navv(now)
13:13.32Wobinyeah
13:13.35Navvthank god
13:13.38Navvthe old thing was completely retarded
13:14.04WobinI'm thinking more of Tidal Waves
13:14.10asmodaiOh, you mean through tidal waves
13:14.11asmodaiyea
13:14.16Navvwell of course
13:14.23Wobineasier to prep with riptide as it's an instant
13:14.56Wobinif I'm tank healing, I'll riptide the melee just to get a faster cast at times
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13:15.31Pneumatusas disc i do the same with shield
13:15.49Wobin<3 Borrowed time
13:16.03WobinI -really- want to play a disc priest
13:16.08asmodaiSince we're talking shop anyway
13:16.12Wobinbut it would take a faction transfer + a server transfer
13:16.13asmodaiso I focus the main tank
13:16.19asmodaiput earth shield on him
13:16.21steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/HOAjnqrJtMkZbhoF/ :(
13:16.29asmodaiand tend to put riptide on him as well, unless someone else needs it
13:17.06asmodaiand then keep chain healing from the mt, unless someone else falls lower and if too low switch to (lesser) healing wave
13:18.22WobinI don't solo MT heal very much
13:18.27Wobinexcept on Patchwerk
13:18.29asmodaiStill need to get used to use nature's swiftness and tidal force
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13:18.38Wobinasmodai: just hotkey it =)
13:18.48WobinI have alt-mouseclick for emergency NS/TF
13:19.09WobinClique is a wonderful tool
13:19.12Fiskerslaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout
13:19.15asmodaiI still need to get used to deal with cast normal and off-cast on the focus target
13:19.29Pneumatusalt-mouseclick = binding heal :>
13:19.31Wobinasmodai: do you use Grid?
13:19.34asmodaiaye
13:19.53Wobinset it up with the tanks in their own row
13:20.22Wobinmakes it easier to heal the tanks
13:21.07Pneumatuscan grid use ora2 tanks, or just blizz tanks?
13:21.19WobinJust blizz tanks I think
13:21.25WobinI've never tried with ora tanks
13:21.47Pneumatusi never bothered with tank layouts because i like to use pet layouts
13:21.52Pneumatusand there's no tanks + pets layouts :)
13:22.00Pneumatusso i heal tanks off MT windows
13:22.08WobinPneumatus: yeah... so I ignore pets =)
13:22.22Wobinthey pick up chain heal fairly readily, so it's less of an issue =)
13:22.39Pneumatusi have pets showing mostly for lock pets when the locks are SL
13:23.13asmodaiWobin: Did grid support that? I thought it filled the grid based on the order people joined the raid?
13:23.18Wobineh, if the warlocks are taking damage, something is wrong =P
13:23.36Wobinasmodai: oh no =\ it does full party, by class, and other configs
13:23.37Pneumatusnot when they are tanking
13:23.51Wobinpoint
13:23.52asmodaiWobin: So much left to config :(
13:24.04Wobinhave a look at the layout menu
13:24.08Wobinthere's a few choices
13:24.09PneumatusWobin: Mimiron head or rooted jormungar, for example
13:24.12asmodaiYeah, must do that
13:24.15PneumatusSL locks make good tanks :)
13:24.17WobinPneumatus: truedat
13:24.19asmodaiThanks for that heads up
13:24.30WobinPneumatus: never healed those, only tanked them
13:24.48Wobinand we had a hunter tank the head =)
13:25.04steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/HOAjnqrJtMkZbhoF/sum/damageDone/?s=3852&e=4107 woohoo, 8.8k dps
13:25.21asmodaisteev: Aren't you a tank? :P
13:25.25Wobincrazy steev
13:25.26steevgod no
13:25.29steevim dual wield
13:25.37Fiskerdual wield tank?
13:25.39steevNO
13:25.48Fiskerthen what?
13:25.55steevdw frost dps
13:26.06Fiskerdual wield frost dps tank?
13:26.23steevyes!
13:26.43Wobinsteev: that dual wielding confused me terribly when looking at the spell damage list =P
13:27.04WobinI was like "... heeey... -two- types of frost strike and oblit?"
13:27.13steevheh
13:27.16Fiskeri knew it steev
13:27.20Pneumatusi've not played DK since 3.0
13:27.24Pneumatusi should dust it off really
13:27.49asmodaiFisker: rofl
13:27.59Fiskernot played dk since 0.3.0
13:28.38steevi like my dk
13:28.43steevalthough im thinking of changing her name
13:28.50steevalternately, make her a male toon
13:29.01Pneumatusmy ele shaman goes on alt runs now, it was my dk before though but i got bored
13:29.18WobinI do terrible dk dps =(
13:29.33Wobinof course, I haven't actually properly gemmed/enchanted my dps set
13:29.40steevheh
13:29.43Wobinbut I ... can't really be bothered to =P
13:29.53steevwhats sad is i got new bracers last night
13:30.01steevthat were better than what i was wearing... unenchanted
13:30.02Wobincause every upgrade drop I get is always towards the tanking set
13:30.06asmodaiSo how much does resto shaman gear differ from elemental?
13:30.14Wobinmp5 vs sp
13:30.15steevasmodai: it doesn't have hit
13:30.18Wobinand hit
13:30.23Wobinoh god... need so much more hit =(
13:30.30sb|workwell twins... empowered whatever, so 8k is 'ok' :p
13:30.30steevWobin: go dw
13:30.30Wobinsorry, mp5 vs hit
13:30.37steevdw only needs 5% hit
13:30.44Wobinsteev: spell hit?
13:30.53steevwho cares about spell hit
13:30.58Wobinas an elemental shaman?
13:31.04steevdk!
13:31.07Wobinoh =P
13:31.16Wobinnah, I'm well over hitcap for dk dps =P
13:31.29asmodaiso resto = mp5 + int (maybe crit?)  and elemental is more sp, hit, int, mp5/crit?
13:31.40sb|workresto = int + haste :p
13:31.44Wobinthis ^
13:31.47Wobiner
13:31.56asmodaiah of course
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13:31.58WobinI prefer mp5
13:32.01asmodaifeck, keep forgetting haste
13:32.10steevhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sen'jin&n=Steev < -- my armory in case anyone is interested (and i had 4 piece t8 bonus that run, didn't get the t9 gloves til after the raid was over)
13:32.26Wobinwell, either lots of mp5 or a lot of dps druids in the raid
13:42.42asmodaiGuess I'll start to collect pieces for an elemental set as well, just in case.
13:43.06asmodaismartest thing I ever did, gather pieces for my resto set while levelling my enhancement from lvl 50 on or so
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13:45.40WobinI leveled elemental
13:45.58Wobinworked quite well, as the gear was pretty usable for the healing spec
13:46.20Pneumatusi leveld to 70 enhance, then to 80 elemental starting with only heirlooms and enhance gear :)
13:46.38steevis there an addon to play a sound when you roll on something and don't get the item because your bags are full?
13:46.39Wobinoh yeah
13:46.42Wobinheirloom gear rocks
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13:50.18Pneumatusalthough levelling a fresh enhance shaman would be ezmode now as well
13:50.33mitch0pneumatus: my fubar replacement is nearing first alpha :)
13:50.34Pneumatuslava dredger till dw, then a pair of mass of mcgowans
13:50.54WobinI remember wanting to get a Mass
13:51.00Wobinas a macerogue
13:51.12Wobinand then I ground up BS to get dragonmaw
13:51.18steevso anyone know "how long" it takes when a ticket gets moved "higher up"
13:51.49Wobin24 Microsoft Minutes
13:51.55mitch0:)
13:51.59asmodaiI'm wondering whether to switch my major glyph of lesser healing wave for riptide
13:52.13Wobinwhat glyphs have you got now?
13:52.18Pneumatusim levelling a rogue with a pair of mcgowans
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13:52.31asmodaiwater mastery, chain heal, lesser healing wave
13:52.39asmodai(and water shield as minor)
13:52.45mitch0time to steal some tooltip handling
13:53.00Wobinhm
13:53.06WobinI have riptide, LHW and Earth shield
13:54.11asmodaiWhat does it mean, effectively, when it says extend? I mean, ok so it runs/lasts longer, but does that mean that the 1670 HoT is now spread out over 21 seconds instead of 15s?
13:54.47Wobinit increases the total heal
13:54.48asmodaior does it modify the buff so it becomes 334 healed per 3 seconds for 21 seconds instead of 15?
13:54.49nevcairielusually it means it adds more tics
13:54.53Wobinby yeah
13:54.55Wobinadding more ticks
13:55.01Wobintwo extra ticks
13:55.20nevcairielwithout changing the previous tics
13:55.22Wobinit makes rolling riptides easier =)
13:55.32WobinYou can make like a wave machine
13:55.37asmodaiahh ok, that's really not clear unless you understand the mechanics of the game, tbh
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13:56.20Wobinalso, with two piece T8, it's quite nice
14:03.44asmodaithink I'll switch the glyph of lhw for riptide
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14:05.09mitch0is there a built in way to throw up a yes/no dialog?
14:05.18Pneumatusyup
14:06.04Megalonstaticpopups I think
14:06.17Pneumatusyeh, you need to add a table entry to StaticPopupDialogs[]
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14:06.30mitch0google time
14:06.31Pneumatusand then StaticPopup_Show
14:06.53mitch0or even better, grep -r my addons :)
14:07.35mitch0meh, no luck :(
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14:07.59Pneumatusgrep framexml
14:08.06asmodaiSo, with something like riptide, how does SP affect such a thing?
14:08.40mitch0found example on wowwiki, thanks
14:09.28Pneumatusthe table you put in the StaticPopupDialogs has flags for what buttons you want, and what actions to perform when they are clicked iirc
14:09.33nevcairielasmodai, iirc, 15s HoT gets you 100% coeff .. or was it 18s? anyway, shorter or longer times change the coeff accordingly
14:10.15nevcairielasmodai, the spell power applies to the total healed over all tics, then.
14:11.16asmodaimm
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14:11.46nevcairielso with a 15s HoT with 5 tics, 50 spell power gets you 10 additional heal on every tic
14:14.41Fiskerbtw FtH|Daemona
14:14.48Fiskerare there any programs or stuff for the ssd?
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14:16.09mitch0is there a localized array for "Yes" and "No" ? :)
14:16.29Pneumatus_G.YES and _G.NO
14:16.36mitch0fabulous
14:26.12sb|workFisker: what SSD?
14:26.14sb|workX-25?
14:28.49Fiskeryes
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14:33.59steevprograms or stuff?
14:35.01steevfuck that is expensive, 420 dollars for 32gb
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14:37.27Fiskerfuck you
14:37.42Fiskermy 80GB wasn't even $299
14:41.48steevhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=X25-e&x=0&y=0
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14:46.59Fiskeryou failed steev
14:53.05[SW]Dodgei hate master looter -.-
14:54.27[SW]Dodgeits to easy to cheat in random raids with /roll for items :(
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14:56.42steev[SW]Dodge: just make everyone roll /need and then trade it to whomever wants it :-P
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14:57.39[SW]Dodgethe problem is
14:57.55[SW]Dodgei rolled 90 for [Reins of the Grand Black War Mammoth]
14:58.16[SW]Dodgeanother player rolled 3
14:58.31[SW]Dodgeand later between others he rolled 96 for the same item
14:58.52[SW]Dodgehe got it and isnt fair enough to trade it
15:01.07steever
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15:01.11steevso he rolled twice?
15:01.23[SW]Dodgeyes
15:02.08[SW]Dodgeand pm didnt saw that before he gave him the item :<
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15:16.02steevboo
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15:16.07steevalways pay attention
15:16.10steevas a master looter
15:16.24nevcairielcant people trade shit now?
15:16.30nevcairielif you miss-assign, etc
15:16.37steevbest thing you can do at that point is, put that person on ignore and don't bother going into a raid with them
15:16.45steevnevcairiel: the person who "got" the item refuses to trade it to him
15:16.49nevcairiellol
15:17.16nevcairielpeople have to realize that they'll end up on some sort of blacklist for that, and not get new epicz soon
15:18.26steevno they won't
15:18.30steevpugs exist for a reason
15:18.47steevit WOULD be nice if there was some sorta blacklist in game though
15:18.49nevcairieldo it often enough, and some guy in every pug knows you :p
15:19.00nevcairielat least if you consider 25s
15:19.19steevyeah
15:19.28steevasmodai: http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/WoWScrnShot_091509_224348.jpg what i ended last night at
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15:19.43nevcairielat some giant ass?
15:19.49steev9355 ap :)
15:19.57steevit *should* conceivably go up
15:20.13steevsince ill now have the t9 2p bonus
15:20.38sb|workerrr - you should hide guild names imo :p
15:21.27Repo10grid-status-hots: 03Bogenlampe 043.2 * r117 : Tagging as 3.2
15:23.52quiescenssb is going to track you down and murder you ):
15:25.58steevwhy?
15:26.37quiescensiuno
15:27.50steevi am guessing because it looks sloppy
15:28.14steevbecause it does, lotsa stuff on the screen that is un-needed - sb|work: know of any addons that will turn off the guild name display when in a raid?
15:28.14Repo10grid-status-hots: 03Bogenlampe 043.2 * r118 : Will replace it in a second with updated TOC
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15:28.56quiescensoh hey grid status hots
15:29.13Repo10grid-status-hots: 03Bogenlampe * r119 GridStatusHots.toc: Updated TOC so it will show up as compatible with 3.2
15:29.17quiescensI made a change on my own copy of that to make it work properly back a couple weeks
15:29.45quiescenssomething about return values of unitbuff having changed in some way i think
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15:30.31Pneumatus$10 says it gets tagged again as 3.2 and confusion ensues
15:30.35Repo10grid-status-hots: 03Bogenlampe 043.2 * r120 : Tagging as 3.2
15:30.41nevcairiellol
15:30.52PneumatusI JUST WON A BET, WITH MYSELF
15:31.00quiescenso.O
15:31.21Elkanoso you just lost a bet with yourself? poor you
15:31.25steevsigh
15:31.28steevseriously blizz
15:31.30steevseriously!?
15:31.49steevsomeone at blizz needs to be stabbed
15:32.02steevi have 3 different buffs.... each one is named.. DUN DUN DUN Unholy Strength
15:32.06quiescensseriously
15:32.42steevif you're gonna be that unoriginal, call it, T92pStr
15:32.47quiescensyeah well both eclipses have different names and depending on which is up, you only get a bonus to one specific spell
15:32.48steevSigilStr
15:32.54quiescens..
15:33.03quiescenss/different/the same/
15:33.15Elkanobut different icons ^^
15:33.46quiescensI need a way to make my buff display rename them based on the icon
15:34.06quiescensor maybe just get an eclipse specific thingy
15:34.09quiescensshrugs
15:35.13steevthat would be cool
15:35.24steevrename the buffs
15:35.35quiescensat least yours are fairly general buffs
15:35.37quiescenslol
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15:35.58steevyeah
15:36.05quiescensthe two eclipses determine what spell you're supposed to cast
15:36.09steeveither 180 str, 200 str, or 15% str, or Greatness
15:36.12quiescensotherwise you aren't making use of the buff at all
15:36.22quiescensone of them is +30% crit to starfire, the other one is +30% damage to wrath
15:36.32steevand then eventually, ill hopefully get death's verdict
15:40.34Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6302 Core/BossPrototype.lua: Clean up our maps when a module disables.
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15:48.41Aeyansteev: Fixed in 3.2.2
15:49.01Repo10grid-status-hots: 03Bogenlampe 043.21 * r121 : Tagging as 3.21 (stupid me forgot to update TOC for 3.2)
15:51.36Aeyant9 pc2 is Unholy Might and virulence is Unholy Force
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16:03.21Fiskerwhat's the link for ccv4?
16:03.33Pneumatusits on the wowace front page
16:03.50Pneumatusiirc
16:04.42Fiskerfuck you :(
16:05.00Pneumatusno u
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16:10.07steevAeyan: what is?
16:10.21AeyanThe Unholy Strength thing
16:10.36steevoh, so they will all be named something different?
16:10.39AeyanThe t9 2pc and the sigil procs are being renamed
16:10.43Aeyant9 pc2 is Unholy Might and virulence is Unholy Force
16:10.48steevnice
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16:19.42steevdk's... aotd - so a fellow dk says that the "6 seconds of down time" for calling it out, isn't worth the "dps loss" - are there numbers somewhere to refute this claim?
16:20.04quiescenscalling it out?
16:23.23steevcast time
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16:26.40nevcairielbrunera, eh
16:26.44steevin other words, he says that a dk can do more dps in the 6 seconds casting atod (not "messing up their rotation") than the combined dps for having it out and dpsing
16:30.44FiskerAnyone know if the blizzcon internet stream pets are being sent out?
16:30.46asmodaiFisker: http://clientupdate.curse.com/ ?
16:34.03Fiskerold
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16:38.19asmodaiit auto updates
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16:45.05[SW]Dodgesteev: what addon is that that shows durability % in character frame? in your screenshot :D
16:46.26Stanzillatekability!
16:47.09sb|workFisker: uhm... in 3-5 weeks?
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16:53.20Codayus[SW]Dodge: Fizzle does that.
16:53.37[SW]Dodgethanks, *installing* :D
16:54.17Primersteev: I've been told that this is indeed the case, and I believe it
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16:56.12quiescensit is to some extent
16:56.31quiescensbut can be offset by channeling it during various lulls in activity
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16:57.24quiescensultimately its probably fairly easy to test
17:00.52steev[SW]Dodge: what Stanzilla said
17:01.15steevPrimer: hrm, i just can't see doing more dps in 6 seconds than army does over the 45 seconds or so that its out
17:01.38steevbut yeah, for the most part, i only call it out before the heart shows up
17:02.00steevor when pvping, if protecting or attacking a tower
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17:05.47Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6303 / (4 files in 3 directories): Fix yell maps.
17:12.03mitchnullheyho, TipTop is fixed
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17:16.39steevThey do around an average of ~1700 dps for the duration on a fully debuffed mob.
17:24.02harlwhat is the frame named WatchFrame good for?
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17:26.32harlit seems to pop up infrequently at the right side of my screen soon after a logon, doesn't contain anything and doesn't reappear at that same position on-screen for anything i know of that it should(!) show anyway..
17:26.34Primersteev: I think it's mostly effective in lulls, as quiescens remarked
17:26.43PrimerI usually use it before we pull faction champs
17:26.51Primerin fact, we have every DK do it
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17:29.30harlhm ok, seems to be related to some kind of achievement tracking similar to the quest tracker frame.
17:29.40harlwon't need either of them anyway
17:31.29steevPrimer: i dunno, im reading interesting stuffs
17:32.20Primersteev: Can recount track all their damage?
17:32.28Primerif so, it should be pretty easy to figure out
17:35.06steevdunno
17:37.29steevim not seeing a way to pull it up
17:38.28pentium166tried to turn off merge pets?
17:39.12steevahh
17:39.13steevthere we go
17:40.00steev[Ammo]: http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/timer2.png (something just really seems messed up with my timers - maybe its just me)
17:40.25steevPrimer: http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/aotd-recount.png
17:41.37steevso the question si really, can i do ~68k damage in 6 seconds?
17:43.59PrimerDo all the ghouls just show up as one? It would seem so
17:44.38Zeksienah. it's a channeled spell, summons 1 at a time over 8 secs?
17:48.09PrimerI mean in recount
17:49.46steevZeksie: 8 over 6 seconds
17:50.26Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2477 / (2 files in 2 directories):
17:50.29RepoWorked more on ticket 808, refining the jewelcrafting database.
17:50.29Zeksieyeh, wasn't sure on exact channelling dur
17:50.49steevhttp://ubersekret.com/screenshots/aotd-recount2.png
17:51.48steevthat was them pulled out before i started attacking
17:52.09steev4 more minutes left on cd, then ill try pulling them out with my procs up
17:53.57steevif i was doing this for real, i'd be eating dragonfin filet instead of the +80 ap food but meh, not wasting dragonfin filet (at its prices) on testing
17:54.12Zeksiel2fish!
17:54.18steevNO!
17:54.34steevactually, i think i can fish, its a matter of sitting there wasting time when i could be on my other dk working towards 25k hks'
17:54.48steevor my other other dk working on his tank set
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17:57.59Primersteev: L2FISH?
17:58.19steev...
17:58.25PrimerI hit 446 fishing on my DK yesterday :)
17:58.40Primermy other 2 80s have 450 fishing
17:58.48steevaotd-recount{3,4} posted
17:59.09steevwhich is with some procs, which seems odd as they lasted longer but did less dps
17:59.12NivFreaksteev: you have 3 DKs?
17:59.23Primerheh I stopped reading the scrollback at  "(at its prices)" and typed L2FISH
17:59.23steevNivFreak: no, i have 3 80 DKs, i have more than 3 dk's
17:59.33PrimerI should really continue reading before commenting
17:59.45NivFreaksteev: haha, I'd tease you but I have 4 warriors
17:59.52PrimerWTF
17:59.56steevi have something like 9 dk's total
17:59.57PrimerYou people have no lives
18:00.11PrimerI thought 3 80s was too much
18:00.11steevbut some of em are just random ones i started cuz server was down
18:00.21steevi have 4 80s :(
18:00.46PrimerAll mine have epic flying and dual specs though...one even has a traveling  mammoth
18:00.55steevyeah no
18:00.59Primerworking on my second mammoth! :)
18:01.01steevnone of my 80s have epic flying
18:01.10steevhowever all 3 of my 80s (not all 3 dk's) have dual spec
18:01.21steever
18:01.24steev3 of my 80s*
18:01.26steevnot all 3
18:01.28steevsince i have 4
18:02.06PrimerDKs are still OP though. I leveled mine as a tank (have 37.6k HP in tank spec, frost presence), but I decided to build a DPS set. It's a mixture of some decent DPS gear, PVP, and tanking gear. I did 4.5k DPS on Koralon yesterday
18:02.12Primerdespite not even having a damn rotation
18:02.19Primeror, not really knowing it
18:02.31NivFreakI only have 4 80s
18:02.33steevi find it interesting that i did less dps with procs up
18:02.38steevnot i, they
18:02.39NivFreakI just said that I have 4 warriors :P
18:02.45steevPrimer: what spec?
18:02.51PrimerBlood
18:02.52Primererr
18:02.55PrimerFrost as DPS
18:02.58PrimerBlood as tank
18:03.03Primertank as Blood
18:03.05steev:(
18:03.07Primerbah, can't think today
18:03.10steevmy tank doesn't have that much health
18:03.22Primerhttp://us.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Kak3%A1
18:03.37Primerfucking fail on the URL pasting...
18:03.41Primerhttp://us.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Kaká
18:03.41steevindeed
18:03.49Primernot sure that'll work either
18:04.08Primerand that's still with the blue JC trinket
18:04.29steevyou bastard
18:04.34steevi want your weapons
18:04.37Primerlost the roll on the über tanking trinket from 25 ToC...I was ML too, could have ninja'd it
18:04.51steevp.s. you have too much hit
18:04.53Primeroops, I logged in DPS spec
18:05.05PrimerI know
18:05.09steevregem that weapon str
18:05.11NivFreakso a general channel question, what's a typical healing team look like for your 25mans?
18:05.15PrimerI've been regemming
18:05.19NivFreakas in class, and number
18:05.28Primer25 man ToC?
18:05.31NivFreaksure
18:05.43Primer7 healers (but I run a pug)
18:05.49steev25 mans, we have 2-3 trees, 2 resto shaman and 1-2 priests
18:05.50NivFreakwe run 1 discpriest/1 holy priest/1 holy pally/2 resto druids/1 resto shaman, and a switch resto shaman
18:05.58Pneumatusno more than 6 healers for heroic 25man
18:06.16NivFreaksteev: specs on priests?
18:06.22PrimerPneumatus: if it's guild and you're super fucking geared
18:06.27NivFreakand fuck, no holy paladin must suck
18:06.27steevholy
18:06.29Primerpresuming you mean ToC
18:06.31steevsometimes disc
18:06.33steevdepending on fight
18:06.45NivFreakwho do you use for your tank healers?
18:06.47Pneumatuswe always have a disc
18:06.59Pneumatusdisc + pallies tank healers usually
18:07.05Pneumatusthen 1 of whatever else we've got
18:07.18NivFreakas in, you are bringing more than 1 holy paladin?
18:07.23Pneumatus2 usually
18:08.06Pneumatuswe have 2 rets and 2 holies, and always have 3 in a raid
18:08.25NivFreakthat's a lot of paladins :)
18:08.56PrimerSome raids take what they can get
18:09.21Primermy guild is usually pugging at least 2-3 people a week
18:09.41PrimerWe raid at a really odd time though, but it's conducive to our schedules
18:10.08Primer12AM-4AM server time (server's on Pacific time)
18:10.20Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6304 / (5 files in 2 directories): * Change things back a bit, need to figure this out.
18:10.20Primerhence the name of the guild: Night Shift
18:10.32Primerand only Fridays and Saturdays
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18:13.25asmodaioh yay
18:13.29asmodaiarmory broke down (EU)
18:13.34asmodai~wowalert
18:13.35purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
18:13.39Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2478 ARLDatamine.lua: added a check for 'trinkets'
18:17.10steevwe usually have 2 prot pallies and 1-2 ret
18:17.21steevor 1 prot and 2 ret
18:17.34steevour holy pally is currently in process of moving to london
18:21.01steevso uh
18:21.04steevthis is interesting
18:21.04Fiskerwhat is there to figure out vhaarr ?
18:21.28steevthe DK BiS thread... lists a dw alliance frost dps weapon as bis... that doesn't seem to exist
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18:26.10stolenlegacy~seen shadowe
18:26.12purlstolenlegacy: i haven't seen 'shadowe'
18:26.12stolenlegacy~seen shadowed
18:26.13purlshadowed is currently on #wowuidev (1d 13h 37m 32s) #wowace (1d 13h 37m 32s). Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 20h 20m 36s, last said: 'Adirelle:  yay what I like to hear'.
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18:26.22stolenlegacyshadowed: ping
18:27.39kadrahildual-blade butcher dropped for me last night :D
18:27.43kadrahilfinally
18:28.08stolenlegacygrats
18:28.16stolenlegacynormal or heroic version?
18:28.23kadrahilnormal, we haven't seen one from heroic yet
18:28.26kadrahil:|
18:28.32stolenlegacy:(
18:28.36kadrahili'll laugh if one drops this week
18:28.38kadrahilin heroic
18:29.24stolenlegacygreatest way to make money EVER: buy the halaa weapons for 3g and/or 8g from vendor
18:29.26stolenlegacydisenchant
18:29.30kadrahil;O
18:29.32stolenlegacysell planar essences for 20g apiece
18:29.42kadrahilgood idea
18:29.51kadrahili just sell tournament pets ^_^
18:29.51stolenlegacydon't do it on azshara eu and i'm fine with it
18:29.52stolenlegacy:P
18:29.56kadrahilhaha
18:29.59stolenlegacyinteresting idea aswell
18:30.01kadrahilit's ok i'm on stormreaver us
18:30.02Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6305 Core/BossPrototype.lua: Bugfix yells.
18:30.11stolenlegacyhaha
18:30.18steevi do pvp... and sell the gems from 10k honor for 200-300g a pop
18:30.29stolenlegacyyah, that's also possible
18:30.44steevwintergrasp = 20k honor
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18:30.52kadrahilwut
18:31.02kadrahilslaps steev around a bit with a large trout
18:31.05steevour server tends to prefer to duke it out
18:31.14steevrather than attack the base *shrug*
18:31.16steevalliance are dumb
18:31.26kadrahilaren't you alliance
18:32.14kadrahil^_^
18:32.16kadrahilafk
18:32.18stolenlegacytranslation: steev is dumb
18:32.26stolenlegacy:D
18:35.34vhaarrFisker: why it didn't work, but think I nailed it now
18:35.39vhaarrFisker: hard to figure out stuff like that _while_ raiding
18:35.51steevkadrahil: not on that server!
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18:40.13FtH|Daemonauuh i just got a c stack overflow in libhealcom
18:40.21Fiskerhow do you enable faction champions vhaarr ?
18:40.28FtH|Daemonahttp://ace.pastey.net/125274
18:40.40Fiskermoo: hdd: C:\ 20.97GB/74.53GB D:\ 934.25GB/1.82TB E:\ 159.89GB/279.46GB
18:40.49vhaarrFisker: it's based on the yell from fordring, but that is changing
18:41.06mitchnulllua> t = {} ; t[1] = "one"; table.remove(t, 1); print(#t);
18:41.06lua_botmitchnull: 0
18:41.16Fiskergive me a script to enable
18:41.20stolenlegacyFtH|Daemona: looks a lot like a loop to me
18:41.24Fiskerquickly she won't remain grounded for long
18:41.28vhaarr<PROTECTED>
18:41.46stolenlegacylua> t={}; t[1] = "one"; t[1] = nil; print(#t);
18:41.47lua_botstolenlegacy: 0
18:42.31mitchnullhohum. then i dunno what's wrong
18:49.02Pneumatusmany cc4 pushes today :o
18:52.07PrimerDoes it work yet?
18:52.24PrimerLast time I tried it didn't
18:52.31Pneumatusdepends on your definition of working i guess
18:52.37Pneumatusit does everything its supposed to for me at least
18:52.42PrimerIt didn't list all my addons
18:52.50Primerabruptly stopped aroung "I"
18:52.54Primeraround, even
18:54.22steevworks here aside from
18:54.32steevthe ccip or some such
18:54.43steevthe install from wowace took me about 5-6 clicks to actually work
18:54.55steevbut updating those same addons work(ed) fine
18:55.03steevat work i can't use it :(
18:55.14steevit doesn't like running under wine in the least
18:55.52Fiskeri pushed your mom Pneumatus
18:55.57nicoli_swine uses mono right steev?
18:56.31nicoli_scuz if so, itll probably never work in mono since it uses wpf technology
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18:57.13steevi have no idea what wine uses
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18:57.40steevwould think it would just launch some more threads with .net shite
18:58.50nicoli_ssweet! my most anticipated CD gets streamed online tonight
18:59.10steev[Ammo]: side note: av timers work great :)
19:00.09[Ammo]steev: cool
19:00.16[Ammo]Arathi should work fine as well
19:00.27[Ammo]Eots is 100% drycode and needs testing
19:00.37[Ammo]and ioc doesn't do a damn thing atm
19:01.22Fiskermeh
19:01.28Shadowedstolenlegacy:
19:01.30Shadowedpong
19:01.47stolenlegacyyou've got a whisper from me
19:03.23[Ammo]steev: I see you still have those starting timers trouble
19:03.51[Ammo]steev: I guess I do have to sync the timer on yells or something, or on regular intervals
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19:08.33steevno clue to be honest
19:10.00Fiskernone of the bossmods even work vhaarr :o
19:13.13vhaarrnonsense
19:14.10Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6306 Core/BossPrototype.lua: Another yell fix for non-exact yells.
19:15.22Repo10battleground: 03Ammo * r30 / (3 files in 3 directories): add some basic landmarks to ioc module
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19:18.18Fiskerwell for me with the revision just before the one you posted there were nothing on champions, nothing on twins, nothing on anub and only the 2 last timers on icehowl
19:18.24Shadowedhuh weird, some of the latest PTR has some just basic logic changes to use compressed if statements
19:18.28Fisker(icehowl and berserk)
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19:26.17Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta5-2-g0a702a2 Modules/Aura/Filter.lua: [+1 commit] Add Hunger For Blood to Rogue Self Buffs.
19:27.52Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6307 Coliseum/Champions.lua:
19:27.55RepoColiseum/Champions: Use the guid's for enabling instead of the yell.
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19:34.51Repo10bazooka (experimental): 03mitch0 * r25 / (2 files in 2 directories): fixed most of the drag-and-drop/highlight issues
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19:40.53Repo10cowtip_luatext: 03profalbert 07master * v0.1-beta-1-g997aa59 LuaText.lua: [+1 commit] fix nil-error in name-line when unit is out of range (e.g. group-frame)
19:41.41Repo10cowtip_luatext: 03profalbert 04v0.2-beta * 119158a /: [new tag] tag as v0.2-beta
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19:48.58rubikis cowtip_luatext supposed to be used as a module/addition to cowtip or a replacement?
19:50.03Megalonhow about
19:50.03Megalonhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/cowtip_luatext/
19:50.07Megalonand reading what it does :P
19:50.12rubiki did
19:50.18Megalonbut seems to enable cowtip to use luatext
19:50.34Megaloninstead of dogtag
19:50.38rubiki couldn't tell from the description or i wouldn't have asked
19:50.52rubiki guess i'll download it and check the .toc file to see if it has a CowTip dependency.. shrug
19:51.54[SW]Dodgebigwigs 3 rules
19:52.00[SW]Dodge[21:48:49] Engaging Emalon the Storm Watcher based on engage sync from Bacardî.
19:52.04rubik## Dependencies: CowTip
19:52.25[SW]Dodgethe only problem.. why does it engage sync with myself? :D
19:54.42Gnarfozbetter question: why do you have a char with a crappy name like that? :p
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19:54.55[SW]Dodge:X
19:55.20rubikhaha
19:55.50[SW]Dodgei like /me takes a new Vodka Energy.
19:55.52[SW]Dodge... :D
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19:59.21Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6308 Coliseum/Beasts.lua: Add a bar for when gormok comes in heroic.
19:59.44sztanpetany chance for libsink to be added to big-wigs?
19:59.47nevcairielwho cares when gormok comes <.<
20:00.01vhaarrnevcairiel: the tank :P
20:00.06vhaarrnevcairiel: I need to time berserker rage
20:00.27nevcairieli no nothing about the fight, i was just trying for a joke :P
20:00.27vhaarrI have too much avoidance, that first hit he gets in has to fill me up
20:00.32vhaarrah :p
20:01.10vhaarrsztanpet: it's there, just the options aren't in yet
20:01.14vhaarrsztanpet: but yes
20:01.30vhaarrsztanpet: bring your bigwigs comments to #bigwigs, or they might be lost in the scrollback here
20:07.41sztanpetnah, im prefectly satisfied with it actually
20:08.25sztanpeti do have a few ora3 comments though about not removing maintanks on demoting them
20:27.00rubiki think my bigwigs still sends people whisper warnings and i'm pretty sure i have it set not to.. known bug?
20:27.21Stanzillathe options do not work
20:28.31rubikoh, i just thought there's no UI to set most options anymore for now but it obeyed set options or whatever.. hmm
20:29.45ZhinjioOff Topic: Anyone interested in a for-fun (not for money) Fantasy Hockey League, please PM me and I'll get you an invite.
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20:40.28Fiskerwhere's my damn sc2beta?
20:42.29asmodaihere
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21:02.08XtekI hear ckknight has some SC2 beta keys.
21:02.16ckknightSC2 is so much fun
21:02.27ckknightoh Fisker, you're missing out
21:03.09XtekIt is quite fun.
21:03.17nicoli_swheres MY beta keys?
21:03.32NivFreakI want my SC2 beta key from last year's blizzcon!
21:04.15ckknightnone for you, NivFreak!
21:04.21ckknightbtw, I don't have a key yet
21:04.23ckknightI pine for one
21:04.45NivFreakheh
21:04.53NivFreakthey still haven't opened the beta right?
21:05.03XtekDon't listen to him, he just doesn't want people bothering him.
21:07.59ckknightnot yet, NivFreak
21:09.58ShefkiOhh there's a beta you're just not invited. :P
21:11.25ckknightwhimpers
21:12.10ShefkiThat's actually ckknight's secret project.  Playing SC2 so when it comes out he can beat us all.
21:12.53XtekShefki: He needs all the practice he can get, leave him be.
21:13.31mitchnulldamn, ipairs() doesn't return keys in order?
21:14.52Shefkihttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/09/actiblizzard-ceo-kotick-policy-rewards-profits-removes-fun.ars?utm_source=microblogging&utm_medium=arstch&utm_term=Main%20Account&utm_campaign=microblogging
21:16.52vhaarrmitchnull: you can't ipairs over a keyed table, it has no order
21:17.54mitchnullI ipairs over a "normal" table, but reading the docs it should be monotone, so I guess I screwed up something else... debug time
21:17.58Shefkikeyed tables have order, it's just that ipairs doesn't iterate over keys but iterates over indexes.
21:18.02ShefkiThus ipair()
21:18.45vhaarrwell you can iterate it with next, I guess, and it has some order, but the order is never guaranteed
21:18.52ShefkiRight.
21:18.54vhaarrI don't see why you argue with practice
21:18.59vhaarrtheory is useless
21:19.15mitchnullbut a t[1] = 2; t[2]=3 kind of table is not keyed, right?
21:19.23ShefkiBecause you're statement is fundamentally wrong and isn't a valid explanation for why what he's doing doesn't work.
21:19.41Shefkiipairs iterates array indexes.
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21:19.59vhaarrmy explanation is fine, you need to lax your view of the syntax :P
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21:20.51mitchnulllua> t = {}; t[1] = "one"; t[2] = "two"; t[3] = "three"; for i, v in ipairs(t) do print(string.format("%d -> %s", i, v)) end
21:20.52lua_botmitchnull: 1 -> one, 2 -> two, 3 -> three
21:21.04mitchnullright, that's what I do
21:21.32mitchnullbut my ordering is fsck'd (not the i, but an inner ordering). so it's probably my fault :)
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21:43.58Pneumatushahaha we totally cheesed 360 pain spike 25man on hardmode
21:44.03Pneumatusbecause we just ignored the last poral :o
21:44.10Stanzillasame :)
21:48.38Fisker:D
21:49.18PrimerI thought 360 pain spike was only doable in hard mode
21:49.33Primerdue to the lack of second mistresses in the non heroic
21:49.34Pneumatusthey can all be done on easymode afaik
21:49.38Pneumatusorly?
21:49.41PrimerI guess you could just keep them alive?
21:49.45Pneumatusyeh
21:49.49Pneumatusyou could just tank one
21:50.11Pneumatusit would probably be harder to do it on normal
21:50.27PrimerI got that achieve on 10 purely by accident
21:50.30Pneumatusalthough no counterspell kisses
21:50.31Pneumatusso
21:50.51Pneumatusi rock so hard at the maiden's kiss now, casting mindblast to make it lock shadow :)
21:51.31Pneumatusbw could do with a warning, although it'd probably be confused with flames which are far more important
21:57.41FtH|Daemonahaha, no loot GG http://i31.tinypic.com/2yox3jn.jpg :/
22:00.40Pneumatushow did you manage to get locked out :o
22:01.19FtH|Daemonano idea, we wiped on enrage and a bubbled paladin made the dots tick ;)
22:03.20Pneumatusyou have enough raiders for 3x 250man groups concurrently? :o
22:03.26Pneumatus*25
22:06.17FtH|Daemonawow, patch madness on CC4 ?
22:06.26FtH|DaemonaPneumatus yes
22:06.33Pneumatusblimey
22:06.37Pneumatusyes patch madness
22:06.48Pneumatusi've had like a cc4 patch every hour or something
22:07.17FtH|Daemona40 active members, everyone at least 1 ulduar geared alt
22:07.43FtH|Daemonaactually we had an alt warrior in block gear tank one pair of the adds :X
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22:23.50Repo10bazooka (experimental): 03mitch0 * r26 Bazooka.lua: so far so good
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22:31.41ShadowedAnyone have a Shaman thats above 30, but below 80?
22:32.08mitchnullmy shaman is around 30
22:32.11mitchnulllemme check
22:32.27ShadowedJust needs to be a level thats not 30/40/50/60/70/80 checking a formula thing
22:32.34mitchnullah, wishful thinking. he's only 24 :)
22:33.02Shadoweddamn
22:33.10mitchnullsorry ;)
22:33.32Shadowednp
22:33.50FtH|Daemona13 :X
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22:44.57Repo10bayis-extended-questlog: 03angelike * r225 / (19 files in 2 directories): beql: - internal changes
22:58.15MegalonShadowed: 71
22:58.28Megalonmy shamy that is
22:58.47ShadowedMegalon: Could you login and take off any spell power gear and check some numbers for me in the Earthliving Weapon tooltip?
22:59.27Megalongear changes the tooltip? :x
22:59.34Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6309 Plugins/Bars.lua: Fix custom bars.
22:59.38Megalonyea can do that
22:59.55ShadowedIt shouldn't, but easier to be safe than sorry
23:01.44Megalon+143 healing done, 20% chance 456hp/12s
23:01.58Megalon3/3 elemental weapons
23:02.13ShadowedFor the lower ranks, are they 116, 160, 220, 348?
23:02.16Shadowed(from 1 -> 4)
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23:03.04Shadowedhealth healed that is
23:04.33Megalonyea
23:04.46Megalonexactly those numbers in the tooltip
23:04.49ShadowedGoody think it's a static amount with no growth, thanks!
23:05.33Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2479 / (2 files in 2 directories):
23:05.35RepoWorked more on ticket 808, refining the jewelcrafting database.
23:07.33Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * b2.4-4-gcc1be41 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits]
23:07.36Repocc1be41: General code clean up, updated some out of date comments made some code a little less evil and such
23:07.39Repo28502c2: Removed LibStub reference due to CallbackHandler-1.0 loading it already
23:07.42Repod19a170: CallbackHandler-1.0 seems to embed LibStub and load it through the XML file, so removing the LibStub embed
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23:15.46XtekUpdate Curse Client v4 if you're using it you can now browse folders for installed addons.
23:16.17NivFreakwtb addon sync in mac client!
23:16.32XtekSoon (tm)
23:16.40NivFreakI'd actually use it again if it had it ;)
23:20.11Shefkiaddon sync?
23:20.46NivFreakv4 for windows sync's addons/savedvars between machines
23:21.04NivFreakwhich would save me from doing what I do now, which is updating in one place, and then rsyncing to my mac
23:23.09ArrowmasterClassShadowed: i dont think CBH is suppost to load libstub, you shouldnt rely on that
23:23.16Shadowedshakes fist at people
23:23.28ShadowedI hate you all
23:23.55NivFreakI'd mainly like someone else to solve my multibyte character problems w/ rsync for me :)
23:24.08NivFreakI hate character set encodings so much
23:24.26Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * b2.5-1-gfbc4dfd / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Reverted not loading LibStub, I blame Ace3 people
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23:30.27Zeksiei still think it's yucky that every lib embeds it.
23:30.40ShadowedIt's a small library doesn't really matter
23:30.56Shadowednot really even a library
23:31.02Zeksieit's loading time. every one has to be read, compiled, executed.
23:31.20ShadowedWell I don't know why CallbackHandler-1.0 is embedding it but
23:31.27Shadowedit's only loaded if the libraries in standalone generally
23:31.48ArrowmasterClassCBH doesnt have a standalone
23:32.02Shadowedoh right
23:32.08Shadowedneither does LibStub
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23:32.48ArrowmasterClasslibraries shouldnt have no-lib versions so it will never be missing
23:34.45Megalonthat'd be funny
23:35.00Megalonlibraries with no-lib, just empty archives
23:36.41Megalonyou could even call them fisker-versions!
23:48.45Repo10bazooka (experimental): 03mitch0 * r27 / (2 files in 1 directory): cancel draggin / lock when entering combat
23:54.02Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6310 Plugins/Bars.lua:
23:54.04RepoUncomment the bigwigs:emphasize property again, it was used to grow emphasized bars up when moving them to a separate anchor was disabled. Also :Show the emphasize frame every time we rearrange bars in the hope that this will fix bars not getting emphasized when they should.
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23:56.36Shadowedwow
23:56.53ShadowedGearScore has a list of people who are "supporters" (donated) and it adds a little note to the mouseover tooltips saying they supported it for other users of the addon :<
23:57.16NivFreakI support this, so I can KoS them
23:57.38NivFreakwhat's better than having a visible flag of stupid on a tooltip?
23:57.48Shadowedan author who adds one?

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