IRC log for #wowace on 20090914

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`00:02.47`	`Mec`	`in ace3 option tables, is the arg parameter inherited?`
`00:02.54`	`Repo`	`10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r347 / (2 files in 1 directory): blacklist update`
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`00:06.24`	`Repo`	`10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v3.5.0.9 * r348 : Tagging as v3.5.0.9`
`00:20.09`	`Yssaril`	`Mec: what do you mean exactly?`
`00:28.55`	`Stanzilla`	`reading poweraura's code hurts :(`
`00:29.45`	`Shadowed`	`Adirelle: ping`
`00:30.50`	`Shadowed`	`It does Stanzilla`
`00:31.31`	`Stanzilla`	`wtb replacement`
`00:31.51`	`Stanzilla`	`and the xmls are the best part of the code :/`
`00:32.07`	`Shadowed`	`replacing Power Auras would be a pain`
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`00:33.07`	`Stanzilla`	`<OnLoad>getglobal("PowaEditButtonText"):SetText(PowaAuras.Text.nomEdit);`
`00:33.11`	`Stanzilla`	`:(`
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`00:33.43`	`Torhal`	`I decided to look, just because`
`00:33.54`	`Torhal`	`I fucking hate changelogs IN THE CODE.`
`00:33.56`	`Torhal`	`WHY?!?`
`00:34.18`	`Torhal`	`Holy shit it's a globalfest`
`00:34.24`	`Stanzilla`	`the zip on wowi is bloated with thousands of txt files`
`00:34.30`	`Stanzilla`	`with notes in different languages`
`00:34.45`	`Stanzilla`	`and yes, globalfest`
`00:35.06`	`Stanzilla`	`but this addon is so damn useful :/`
`00:35.16`	`Shadowed`	`Welcome to half the addons out there!`
`00:35.38`	`Torhal`	`Formatting nightmare as well.`
`00:35.44`	`Torhal`	`Once again, what Shadowed said.`
`00:36.00`	`Shadowed`	`popularity and well made are generally not something that goes hand in hand sadly`
`00:36.17`	`Torhal`	`It's usually opposite.`
`00:36.22`	`Shadowed`	`It is!`
`00:37.29`	`Pneumatus`	`inversely proportional`
`00:37.40`	`Shadowed`	`Although in a way it makes sense`
`00:37.44`	`Stanzilla`	`the SVs are another problem`
`00:37.54`	`Stanzilla`	`powa's system is really fucked`
`00:38.14`	`Shadowed`	`Since generally it turns into a case of, the author adds every little thing users want, more people use it because it suits the needs or everyone, because the author doesn't control the feature set you get bad code`
`00:38.55`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh, stuff just gets hacked in and makes it a mess`
`00:39.25`	`Shadowed`	`stupid osx`
`00:39.49`	`Stanzilla`	`## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: PowaSet,PowaMisc,PowaTimer,PowaPlayerListe,PowaState < yessss, needs some more`
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`00:41.06`	`Pneumatus`	`sounds like someone doesnt like tables`
`00:41.13`	`Shefki`	`PowaDoesItBlend`
`00:42.34`	`Stanzilla`	`well there is more`
`00:42.49`	`Stanzilla`	`I forgot ## SavedVariables: PowaGlobalSet,PowaGlobalListe`
`00:43.08`	`Torhal`	`I needs moar POWA!`
`00:43.16`	`Shadowed`	`I still like Stufs, local a = StufRaid personally`
`00:45.31`	`Stanzilla`	`Torhal: I heard you like fixing crap addons (ARL!), fix powa please :P`
`00:46.56`	`Torhal`	`Stanzilla: There's no fixing to that. That's a ground-up project.`
`00:47.09`	`Stanzilla`	`^^`
`00:48.40`	`Shadowed`	`Better get to work now then!`
`00:49.17`	`Torhal`	`Eh, I need to get motivation to finish Syllabus first. Besides, I'd never even heard of the Powa!`
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`01:01.41`	`Pneumatus`	`power auras is only popular because it's pretty anyway :<`
`01:01.59`	`Pneumatus`	`i much prefer the uglyness of a big fat icon from TellMeWhen`
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`01:10.51`	Funkeh`	`Stanzilla, my warrior addon has turned into a power auras replacement`
`01:10.58`	Funkeh`	`got rid of rage/threat indicators`
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`01:21.57`	`Xtek`	Funkeh`, what addon is that?
`01:22.33`	Funkeh`	`no addon it's not released`
`01:23.01`	`Xtek`	`I see.`
`01:23.15`	`Torhal`	`No, you don't. It's not release.`
`01:23.17`	`Torhal`	`:D`
`01:23.20`	`Torhal`	`ducks.`
`01:23.41`	`Xtek`	`I see what you did there.`
`01:24.44`	`Torhal`	`Hhe`
`01:24.48`	`Torhal`	`Heh. even`
`01:28.25`	`Pneumatus`	`hmm im sure i used to have an addon on my rogue that i could right-click a locked box to unlock it`
`01:28.34`	`Pneumatus`	`does such a beast still exist, or is even possible?`
`01:29.40`	`Torhal`	`Pneumatus: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lock-smith/`
`01:29.49`	`Repo`	`10grid2manabars (experimental): 03Elsia * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory):`
`01:29.52`	`Repo`	`- Initial commit. This is pre-alpha, only digest with ketchup and extra cookies.`
`01:30.05`	`Pneumatus`	`i do that already in a macro`
`01:30.32`	`Pneumatus`	`although it breaks with >1 box`
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`01:37.39`	`Pneumatus`	`getting invalid target all the time with crowbar :<`
`01:38.11`	`Pneumatus`	`er, locksmith`
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`01:38.59`	`Pneumatus`	`and crowbar needs to have an autoloot option :<`
`01:39.11`	`Torhal`	`Pneumatus: Use code-fu!`
`01:39.32`	`Torhal`	`I almost put that into Revelation, but figured it was outside the scope of a tradeskill AddOn,`
`01:39.39`	`Pneumatus`	`curse client bitches like a mofo if i edit source :P`
`01:41.14`	`Torhal`	`Rename!`
`01:41.25`	`Pneumatus`	`arguably i could svn co`
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`01:41.52`	`Pneumatus`	`i can't get used to having autoloot on, im so used to shift-clicking corpses`
`01:42.06`	`Pneumatus`	`so all my stealth macros have autoloot-pickpocket+ability`
`01:42.46`	`Torhal`	`I'd ask [Ammo] before hitting the repo.`
`01:43.41`	`Pneumatus`	`i mean, i wouldnt commit`
`01:43.52`	`Pneumatus`	`but svn co and edit would shut the curse client up, and updates would just merge`
`01:44.31`	`Pneumatus`	`cc4 is finally smart enough just to ignore dev copies regardless of if they are modified etc`
`01:44.51`	`Torhal`	`True.`
`01:48.10`	`Gnarfoz`	`ckknight or Kaelten: ping`
`01:48.18`	`ckknight`	`hey Gnarfoz`
`01:49.04`	`Gnarfoz`	`\o/`
`01:49.34`	`Gnarfoz`	`ckknight: can the vbb that you use on forums.wowace.com merge users? or can you change the curse user <> forum user association?`
`01:49.50`	`ckknight`	`not easily`
`01:49.55`	`ckknight`	`I don't like dealing with wowace's forums`
`01:50.03`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten might be better`
`01:50.04`	`ckknight`	`who knows`
`01:50.54`	`Gnarfoz`	`heh, I see. just noticed "8tImER" is linked to my curse account now. ;\ (Gnarfoz also exists and is also me, from before the merge "back then")`
`01:51.24`	`Torhal`	`Gnarfoz: There are difficulties, which is why most of the name changes that were promised back before the merge haven't happened yet.`
`01:52.08`	`Gnarfoz`	`Torhal: mine being a happy exception to that, at least for curse & repositories, I don't use the forums heavily anyway`
`01:52.48`	`Gnarfoz`	`Torhal: random question: is that you on your avatar/userpic on the forums?`
`01:57.23`	`Torhal`	`Gnarfoz: Yup`
`01:59.48`	`Gnarfoz`	`Torhal: great hair! :)`
`02:00.59`	`Torhal`	`Heh, danke`
`02:02.40`	`Gnarfoz`	`(it's always weird when people use random German words, if you yourself are German, heh)`
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`02:05.56`	`kadrahil`	`FINALLY 25man heroic FC down`
`02:09.15`	`WobWork`	`grats!`
`02:09.23`	`kadrahil`	`^_^`
`02:09.27`	`WobWork`	`FC?`
`02:09.31`	`kadrahil`	`faction champions`
`02:09.38`	`kadrahil`	`23 attempts left zzzzz`
`02:09.41`	`WobWork`	`ah, those bastards`
`02:10.12`	`Torhal`	`Gnarfoz: I use that one rather consistently. :)`
`02:13.58`	`WobWork`	`Gnarfoz: scheisse`
`02:14.45`	`Gnarfoz`	`WobWork: go get yourself a Ã ;p`
`02:15.32`	`WobWork`	`Gnarfoz: I have a poor nonEuropean keyboard here at work =P`
`02:15.39`	`WobWork`	`and can't be bothered finding the altcombo for it =)`
`02:16.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`my hair is longer than Torhals, well when its straight that is`
`02:19.33`	`Odlaw`	`woot.. 25 twins heroic`
`02:19.51`	`Odlaw`	`is an uber orb catcher`
`02:20.36`	`Torhal`	`ckknight: What happened to Abacus?`
`02:21.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`it died?`
`02:21.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres a v2`
`02:21.51`	`Torhal`	`Yah, search wasn't finding it`
`02:22.24`	`Torhal`	`I'm trying to get TrainerFu running so I can see how its tooltip looked, but it's complaining about Abacus-2.0 not being found`
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`02:23.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`@project libabacus-3-0`
`02:23.06`	`Repo`	`Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libabacus-3-0/. LibAbacus-3.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 191 days ago`
`02:23.20`	`Arrowmaster`	`@project abacuslib`
`02:23.21`	`Repo`	`Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/abacuslib/. AbacusLib. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 339 days ago`
`02:23.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats probably 2.0`
`02:23.36`	`Torhal`	`Weird. Searching from the web page brings up AllPlayed and another AddOn`
`02:23.43`	`Torhal`	`No Abacus results`
`02:23.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`i went to ckknights profile and set the filter to abandoned`
`02:24.03`	`Torhal`	`I set the filter to All`
`02:24.14`	`Torhal`	`That used to work`
`02:25.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`ckknight: seriously you need to be working on the wowace site rather than whatever that new project is, activity log needs to show when statuses are automatically changed`
`02:26.38`	`ckknight`	`Pneumatus made a forum post about wowace's status since I was reassigned`
`02:26.41`	`ckknight`	`I suggest adding to it`
`02:28.28`	`ckknight`	`an open letter to netcurse, afaik`
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`02:37.49`	`Groktar`	`WIPIN ON 10 MAN HEROIC BEASTS, WAT UP`
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`04:26.06`	`Torhal_`	`Shadowed: I just nuked your last update of SUF...had __MACOS stuff in it.`
`04:26.14`	`Shadowed`	`Torhal_: mmm`
`04:26.19`	`Shadowed`	`fucking mac zipper`
`04:26.50`	`Shadowed`	`hate that they add that stuff in`
`04:32.42`	Funkeh`	`lolmac`
`04:32.59`	`Shadowed`	`should be fixed Torhal`
`04:33.24`	`Torhal`	`Shadowed: Yup. That did it.`
`04:38.34`	`Shadowed`	`They're nice for development stuff in general once you get used to it`
`04:39.23`	`Torhal`	`?`
`04:39.36`	`Torhal`	`Oh, the __MACOS stuff?`
`04:40.15`	`Shadowed`	towards Funkeh`
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`05:25.55`	`Repo`	`10mimironffa: 03gnarfoz 07master * 1.1-1-g2c3d02b MimironFFA.lua: [+1 commit] - added esES locale & pull in updated frFR from the localization app.`
`05:30.30`	`Repo`	`10mimironffa: 03gnarfoz 041.2 * 34383f7 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.2`
`05:31.42`	`Groktar`	`woot 214 expertise`
`05:35.19`	`Repo`	`10arl: 03pompachomp * r2473 / (3 files in 2 directories):`
`05:35.22`	`Repo`	`Reworded the following labels: "Known"->"Show Known" and "Unknown"->"Show Unknown" just to be more clear since those two filters just affect the displayed recipe list and don't affect the progress bar numbers`
`05:38.47`	`Groktar`	`i'm using a Circle of Death`
`05:38.49`	`Groktar`	`is that bad?`
`05:39.11`	`quiesense`	`what is a circle of death`
`05:39.21`	`Groktar`	`10 man naxx ring`
`05:39.31`	`Groktar`	`thinking i should put on a better one and make up the expertise somewhere else`
`05:39.39`	`Groktar`	`like with gems`
`05:39.42`	`Groktar`	`but then i'll lose arp`
`05:41.01`	`Gnarfoz`	`Groktar: rogue?`
`05:41.25`	`quiesense`	`melee mage`
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`05:42.53`	`Gnarfoz`	`gem for resilience, then, imo`
`05:43.02`	`Groktar`	`warrior`
`05:43.17`	`Groktar`	`rogue would never use circle of death`
`05:43.19`	`Groktar`	`it's got str`
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`05:43.54`	`bluspacecow`	`hey guys i have this semi-humours 4 line paragraph to share .... can i paste it or do i has to pasty it ?`
`05:44.48`	`WobWork`	`eh paste it`
`05:45.00`	`bluspacecow`	`"How do you people test your software? I imagine a brushed-aluminum room with a floor made of keyboards, each one plugged into a different test box somewhere. Someone is tasked with tossing a box full of cats (all wearing turtlenecks) into this room. If none of the systems catch fire within 30 minutes, testing is complete. Someone else must remove the cats. All have iPods." - tuba_man (http://community.livejournal.com`
`05:46.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`peta would bitch about animal testing....`
`05:47.27`	`bluspacecow`	`zomg i left my salad at work :(`
`05:47.50`	`bluspacecow`	`http://www.edpiskor.com/hacker.html`
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`05:50.53`	`vhaarr`	`wts libc updates that break the world`
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`05:54.13`	`pompy1`	`vhaarr: someone suggested in that thread i posted for you , that it should go in another subforum because blues dont really go thru the subforum it was posted in`
`05:54.34`	`vhaarr`	`pompy1: yeah done already, thanks anyway`
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`06:17.54`	`WobWork`	`bluspacecow: where's that quote from?`
`06:18.10`	`bluspacecow`	`....`
`06:18.20`	`bluspacecow`	`theres a source in the quote`
`06:18.49`	`WobWork`	`it got... uh cut off?`
`06:18.50`	`bluspacecow`	`http://community.livejournal.com/techsupport/2018070.html noob`
`06:18.55`	`WobWork`	`fail =P`
`06:19.04`	`WobWork`	`"l have iPods." - tuba_man (http://community.livejournal.com"`
`06:19.08`	`WobWork`	`(END)`
`06:19.25`	`bluspacecow`	`blah`
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`06:28.11`	`quiesense`	`why is it there are some addons that show up on the website but not in the client anyway?`
`06:28.42`	`bluspacecow`	`?`
`06:29.19`	`quiesense`	`like, when I'm searching for an addon by name and it doesn't show up in the list in the curse client but it does on the curse website`
`06:29.22`	`quiesense`	`thingy`
`06:29.33`	`bluspacecow`	`weird`
`06:29.53`	`bluspacecow`	`any curse client devs on right now ?`
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`06:32.52`	`mitch0`	`didum`
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`06:33.26`	`quiesense`	`there were others, but the most recent one that I've noticed it for is http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/launchermenu.aspx for example`
`06:34.13`	`quiesense`	`as far as I can tell it has a released version, and its marked as 3.2.0 so I didn't quite get why`
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`06:40.39`	`digmouse`	`WTB good US realm to get a start`
`06:40.44`	`digmouse`	`any recommendation?`
`06:40.56`	`bluspacecow`	`idk define "good"`
`06:41.08`	`digmouse`	`ask purl`
`06:41.25`	`bluspacecow`	`i mean what do you mean "good US realm" ?`
`06:41.26`	`quiesense`	`the best realm is the one your friends are on~`
`06:41.44`	`digmouse`	`no friends on :(`
`06:42.59`	`bluspacecow`	`theres different criteria for different people .... eg does it have guild with raid times that are good for me ? is the economy good ? are their less ass hats in trade ? is it easy to get a group together for something ? as a whole are the people mature etc etc`
`06:44.18`	`mort`	`there are realms were you can actually read /trade without bleeding out of your eyes?`
`06:48.43`	`Repo`	`10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * b2.3-1-gaceaf48 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed BOMB_HEALS being 0x16 supposed to be 0x10`
`06:49.52`	`digmouse`	`I'd better choose a PvE realm with good LFG status`
`06:50.25`	`digmouse`	`mainly for a smooth leveling, nothing for raids, 10 player is enough for me`
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`07:10.56`	`mitch0`	`is frame:RegisterForDrag() working more or less? I see most addons do the StartMovingOrSizing() stuff from an OnMouseDown() handler instead of using the registerfordrag/ondragstart method`
`07:11.07`	`jnwhiteh`	`it works just fine`
`07:11.20`	`quiesense`	`ondragstart has the um`
`07:11.23`	`quiesense`	`threshold`
`07:11.25`	`jnwhiteh`	`there's a bit of imprecision tho, since the drag won't start immediately`
`07:11.28`	`quiesense`	`before it actually starts moving`
`07:11.31`	`jnwhiteh`	`since it needs to detect the drag`
`07:11.36`	`jnwhiteh`	`which I prefer, it feels right to me, I guess.`
`07:11.49`	`quiesense`	`depends on which behaviour is more appropriate`
`07:11.53`	`mitch0`	`it's OK, I don't want to start dragging on a click anyway`
`07:12.06`	`mitch0`	`as I'd need to "detach" my frame if its getting dragged`
`07:12.08`	`quiesense`	`especially if you have something that has to respond to clicks`
`07:12.11`	`quiesense`	`differently to drags`
`07:12.27`	`mitch0`	`I need OnClick() and drag, too`
`07:12.30`	`jnwhiteh`	`I think even more so the drag is important there.`
`07:12.38`	`jnwhiteh`	`they don't conflict if you write it properly`
`07:12.52`	`jnwhiteh`	`and OnMouseDown fires for clicks as well, so Im' not sure I follow.`
`07:13.12`	`Repo`	`10pitbull4: 03Shefki 04v4.0.0-beta5 * c24172d /: [new tag] Tagging as v4.0.0-beta5`
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`07:14.22`	`mitch0`	`jnwhiteh: well, I'm writing (yet another) LDB display, so I need my frames to be clickable, but I also would like to be able tto drage the frames (plugins) to different bars, etc. so you say I should do stuff in OnClick() and OnDragStart()?`
`07:14.41`	`jnwhiteh`	`you can really choose any of them that you want, but that seems reasonable`
`07:14.45`	`jnwhiteh`	`that's what I do in NinjaPanel.`
`07:14.47`	`mitch0`	`(guss, I'll need OnMouseDown() too, to properly capture the orginial mouse coords)`
`07:15.02`	`mitch0`	`s,guss,guess,`
`07:15.41`	`quiesense`	`click and drag would be safest`
`07:15.41`	`mitch0`	`jnwhiteh: or you just center the dragged widget at the current mousecoords?`
`07:16.03`	`jnwhiteh`	`I don't do anything fancy`
`07:16.05`	`jnwhiteh`	`it 'just works'`
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`07:16.14`	`quiesense`	`a click normally only fires if the mouse down and up both happen within a small area`
`07:16.20`	`mitch0`	`jnwhiteh: what happens with all the points?`
`07:16.22`	`quiesense`	`ie. they should be exclusive of each other`
`07:16.22`	`jnwhiteh`	`just register for drag, start moving, stop moving or sizing.`
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`07:16.32`	`jnwhiteh`	`all points are removed when you call startmoving`
`07:16.36`	`jnwhiteh`	`you don't have to do anything.`
`07:17.12`	`mitch0`	`jnwhiteh: but all the other plugins are attached to the dragged one (it's like a linked list with SetPoint(LEFT, other, RIGHT, x, y)`
`07:17.21`	`jnwhiteh`	`so detach them first?`
`07:17.23`	`mitch0`	`will a drag drag the whole?`
`07:17.26`	`jnwhiteh`	`this is all done in NinjaPanel`
`07:17.27`	`jnwhiteh`	`the code is all there`
`07:17.30`	`jnwhiteh`	`yes it will`
`07:17.33`	`jnwhiteh`	`if others are attached to it.`
`07:17.52`	`mitch0`	`jnwhiteh: ah, so OnDragStart() is the place to detach, right?`
`07:17.58`	`jnwhiteh`	`yes`
`07:18.02`	`mitch0`	`cool`
`07:18.06`	`mitch0`	`thanks`
`07:18.13`	`mitch0`	`will take a look at ninjapanel :)`
`07:18.15`	`jnwhiteh`	`yw`
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`07:30.42`	`Repo`	`RaidBuffStatus:`
`07:30.44`	`Repo`	`- CTRA and PLPWR messages are no longer sent in battlegrounds.`
`07:30.48`	`Repo`	`- RBS will be disabled in battlegrounds by default.`
`07:30.50`	`Repo`	`- Durability will no longer be checked in battlegrounds.`
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`07:47.35`	`Repo`	`AV working only since I spend lots of time there levelling :)`
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`08:26.56`	`orionshock`	`what's its supposed to mean when GetPoint() returns a nil value for the 2nd return?`
`08:28.11`	`mitch0`	`UIParent?`
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`08:29.15`	`mitch0`	`(just a guess, probably wrong :) I'm pretty much confused about the anchoring behaviour... I don't understand what happens when the frames have 0 width and/or height...`
`08:30.15`	`Zeksie`	`the frame is still logically there with no width/height, but it will just never get displayed in any form`
`08:30.40`	`mitch0`	`yeah, but anchoring other frames to those do strange things...`
`08:30.52`	`Zeksie`	`yes, it can`
`08:30.55`	`mitch0`	`it's "almost" good, but not quite`
`08:31.04`	`Shefki`	`0x and 0y has undefined behavior.`
`08:31.17`	`Zeksie`	`it's wow's way of saying, if you don't know what to do with it, then neither do i!`
`08:31.45`	`mitch0`	`also, what hapeens when frameA is anchored to frameB and I do frameB:Hide() ?`
`08:31.57`	`Shefki`	`Try it and find out. :)`
`08:32.12`	`mitch0`	`yeah, will do when I get home and get that far with my addon ;)`
`08:32.25`	`mitch0`	`just thought someone already stumbled upon it :)`
`08:32.38`	`Zeksie`	`most of us :)`
`08:33.23`	`Shefki`	`Try creating circular anchors, that's always fun.`
`08:34.10`	`mitch0`	`shefki: eh, I sortof guessed it won't do much good, so I didn't try that :)`
`08:34.21`	`mitch0`	`zeksi: so, if you have, can you enlighten me? :)`
`08:34.43`	`mitch0`	`s,i:,ie:,`
`08:34.46`	`Zeksie`	`nothing. the anchor is still valid. as long as frameA is not parented to frameB, frameA won't move and will still be visible`
`08:35.19`	`Repo`	`10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r842 AceGUI-3.0 (2 files in 2 directories):`
`08:35.22`	`Repo`	`AceGUI-3.0: Change anchoring and offset behavior to potentially fix mis-aligned options when using two groups next to each other.`
`08:35.25`	`Repo`	`This change may introduce regressions in the layout, please report any mis-aligned widgets in the Flow layout.`
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`08:37.07`	`Repo`	`10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r843 AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua: AceGUI-3.0: Don't forget to bump versions, doh!`
`08:38.55`	`mitch0`	`zeksie: also, ClearAllPoints() leaves the frame in place, right?`
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`08:40.04`	`Zeksie`	`yes, but i think that behaviour is also undefined. ie: don't rely on it`
`08:40.56`	`sztanpet`	`zomg Fisker, have your heard superdanielmans twitter about gomtv?`
`08:41.27`	`Groktar`	`huggles the sztanpet`
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`08:43.11`	`Megalon`	`:[`
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`08:44.11`	`Shefki`	`Well I think this is the first time I've ever seen TBag repacked with a keylogger.`
`08:44.52`	`sztanpet`	`yay, time for celebration? :D`
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`08:53.55`	`asmodai`	`hahaha, that Pandaren monk pet really rocks`
`08:53.59`	`asmodai`	`but that spectral kitten is cute too`
`08:54.41`	`Repo`	`10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r844 AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua: AceGUI-3.0: More fixes to anchoring and offsetting.`
`08:56.06`	`Fisker`	`naw Stanzilla`
`08:56.08`	`Fisker`	`naw sztanpet`
`08:57.07`	`sztanpet`	`no more starcraft on gomtv :(`
`08:57.57`	`Fisker`	`qq moar`
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`09:00.00`	`asmodai`	`hahaha:`
`09:00.06`	`asmodai`	`Shaman's Lava Burst hits Shaman for 8,565 (807 overkill) (Critical)`
`09:00.07`	`asmodai`	`hugs shield and Warrior Spell Reflect I love you....`
`09:00.18`	`asmodai`	`never realized lava burst can do so much damage`
`09:00.52`	`sztanpet`	`and its 100% crit onto flameshock too`
`09:00.59`	`asmodai`	`gets about 57% of sp as added damage`
`09:01.08`	`asmodai`	`and fully specced crits do 124% dmg boost`
`09:01.11`	`asmodai`	`XD`
`09:01.21`	`asmodai`	`maybe I need to switch from enhancement to elemental :P`
`09:02.03`	`Torhal`	`Shefki: I wonder how many people didn't think twice before opening that executable.`
`09:03.18`	`nevcairiel`	`I should ship an executable with my stuff that just pops a window "This might've been a Keylogger, do you feel dumb now?"`
`09:04.08`	`Fisker`	`what's this all about?`
`09:04.09`	`Torhal`	`Hah`
`09:10.20`	`asmodai`	`Fisker: packaged keylogger`
`09:10.27`	`asmodai`	`[10:44] << Shefki>> Well I think this is the first time I've ever seen TBag repacked with a keylogger.`
`09:10.46`	`asmodai`	`nevcairiel: I'm surprised people think addons require a .exe`
`09:11.10`	`profalbert`	`you need to "install" addons --> installing requires an exe`
`09:11.46`	`asmodai`	`>_<`
`09:12.04`	`Fisker`	`do want sauce`
`09:15.54`	`Megalon`	`sauces all over Fisker`
`09:16.32`	`Kalroth`	`weeeeell`
`09:19.08`	`Fisker`	`slaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout`
`09:19.10`	`Fisker`	`slaps Kalroth around a bit with a large trout`
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`09:26.24`	`Repo`	`New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/battleground/. Battleground. Ammo (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.`
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`09:27.29`	`Wizardling`	`G'day`
`09:27.33`	`Wizardling`	`chosing 40-man config mode inside AV BG is freezing WoW for a few minutes leading to disconnection`
`09:27.35`	`Wizardling`	`is this a known issue?`
`09:27.59`	`sztanpet`	`what addon is this?`
`09:28.22`	`Elkano`	`WoW he said ;)`
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`09:28.37`	`Elkano`	`I'd guess aguf or PB`
`09:28.49`	`sztanpet`	`grid2 has this too`
`09:28.57`	`Wizardling`	`sorry - Pitbull`
`09:28.59`	`Wizardling`	`doh`
`09:29.01`	`Wizardling`	`:-D`
`09:29.03`	`sztanpet`	`which one`
`09:29.06`	`Wizardling`	`4`
`09:29.12`	`Wizardling`	`latest build`
`09:29.21`	`Wizardling`	`gods I'm being dense today`
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`09:50.24`	`asmodai`	`Funny btw, we went to do Ahn'Qiraj 25-mans this weekend. But for some reason it kept forcing difficulty to 10 mans, which caused issues with grid picking up the wrong setting. (Thankfully I could manually fix it.)`
`09:50.59`	`profalbert`	`aq25?`
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`09:59.26`	`[SW]Dodge`	`maybe aq40 with 25 player?`
`10:04.33`	`orionshock`	`tbh, about 3 more options on Ag's raid frames and my client's FPS went up in raids by about 15`
`10:04.46`	`orionshock`	`was using grid before and tried grid2 for an av or 3, shitty fps..`
`10:05.03`	`orionshock`	`i wonder wtf they are doing so wrong in grid that makes the clients so laggy`
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`10:55.27`	`asmodai`	`ah yes, sorry, was 40 mans`
`10:55.38`	`asmodai`	`but with about 25 levels 80s solely for the achievement ;)`
`10:56.12`	`asmodai`	`Nothing like some person entering C'thun's room and nobody realizing it only to get zapped by the eye beam and instantly dying`
`10:56.49`	`profalbert`	`isn't 25 ppl overkill now?`
`10:57.16`	`profalbert`	`tried MC yesterday with 4`
`10:57.16`	`asmodai`	`achievement time :)`
`10:57.28`	`profalbert`	`heh`
`10:57.38`	`asmodai`	`and if you're with a bunch of people who never did Twin Emps or Eye of C'thun, you can still die in funny ways.`
`10:57.52`	`asmodai`	`Like triggering enrage if you don't pull them apart enough.`
`10:58.11`	`asmodai`	`Btw, when the twins teleport, do they do a full threat wipe or only partially?`
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`10:58.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`full`
`10:59.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`but whoever is standing closest gets some free threat`
`10:59.14`	`asmodai`	`AHhh, that explains`
`11:00.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`they made me tank the caster when i did aq40 at lvl 70`
`11:00.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`i never did twins in aq40 before.... why the fuck do i always have to tank everything....`
`11:01.07`	`asmodai`	`so you want the main tank for each to be further away from the rest of the people doing healing and dps. I just wonder how melee dps need to deal with that though, not hit until the melee tank builds up enough aggro again?`
`11:01.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`something like that`
`11:02.10`	`Arrowmaster`	`the fight took a lot of coordination at 60 i think, even at just 70 we kinda zerged it down`
`11:02.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`they healed a bunch but we killed them`
`11:02.47`	`asmodai`	`but did you run from left to right and back or stay in place?`
`11:03.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`i was the caster tank i had to run all around`
`11:03.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`we only did it with one instead of 2`
`11:03.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`i think`
`11:04.34`	`asmodai`	`ah ok`
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`12:37.28`	`asmodai`	`rofl`
`12:37.46`	`asmodai`	`so the guildie that hosts our website had his other guildie post the Cataclysm vid on the front page.`
`12:37.52`	`asmodai`	`The HD one.`
`12:37.55`	`asmodai`	`Of 600 MB.`
`12:38.13`	`asmodai`	`As such, bandwidth cap overpayment hilarity ensued.`
`12:38.17`	`Xtek`	`LOL`
`12:38.44`	`Xtek`	`That's just pro.`
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`12:39.36`	`asmodai`	`Cap is 30 GB, they were 140% over.`
`12:39.48`	`asmodai`	`At EUR 2 for 1 GB XD`
`12:40.19`	`digmouse`	`XD`
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`12:42.16`	`winkiller`	`30GB cap is a bit 90's`
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`12:44.41`	`asmodai`	`It gets better.`
`12:44.51`	`asmodai`	`So my colleague & guildie calls the helpdesk of said hoster.`
`12:45.13`	`asmodai`	`Girlie on the line says he can upgrade on the fly for only EUR 24 to a higher bandwidth package.`
`12:45.16`	`asmodai`	`No additional costs.`
`12:45.23`	`asmodai`	`And then he can also downgrade with no costs.`
`12:45.49`	`asmodai`	`So my colleague asked: so I upgrade now with this fax and next month I downgrade at no additional cost, only the increased subscription money for this month?`
`12:45.53`	`asmodai`	`She: yup!`
`12:45.57`	`asmodai`	`Him: Cool! Done!`
`12:45.58`	`asmodai`	`XD`
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`13:06.14`	`asmodai`	`wow`
`13:06.16`	`asmodai`	`http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~rb1006/projects:marioai`
`13:06.26`	`asmodai`	`that's some nifty path AI`
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`13:58.48`	`ckknight`	`asmodai: pretty damn cool`
`14:01.27`	`Fisker`	`slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout`
`14:01.28`	`Fisker`	`hey ckknight`
`14:01.38`	`Fisker`	`i just slapped you`
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`14:08.26`	`asmodai`	`ckknight: I love how he caps the calculations to deal with the realtime demands`
`14:08.35`	`asmodai`	`And still gets very solid performance.`
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`14:09.39`	`Fisker`	`yep`
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`14:31.33`	`harl`	`is there a way to have PitBull's party and partypet frames automatically combined making them more compact when there are fewer than 5 party members?`
`14:31.51`	`harl`	`PB 3`
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`14:33.15`	`ckknight`	`automatically combined?`
`14:33.23`	`ckknight`	`what does that even mean?`
`14:34.12`	`Pneumatus`	`Mikk: re: the postal patch, if i empty my mailbox, close the window, open it again before the timer has elapsed, then close it again after the timer should have finished, i get a "more messages in 61 seconds" even though i get all my mail as soon as i open`
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`14:43.53`	`harl`	`ckknight: moo`
`14:43.59`	`ckknight`	`harl: howdy`
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`14:46.01`	`mitch0`	`hehe: " Public domain varies with the jurisdictions, and it is in some places debatable whether someone who has not been dead for the last seventy years is entitled to put his own work in the public domain."`
`14:47.18`	`harl`	`ckknight: what i wanted to say by "automatically combined" is that sometimes there's a "gap" between the party and the partypet frame and i wonder if pitbull could auto-arrange the frames to close that gap and virtually make empty "slots" of those frames collapse/hide.`
`14:47.30`	`ckknight`	`no`
`14:49.47`	`harl`	`ok`
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`14:51.55`	`ulic`	`ckknight: hey, I create two localization names spaces, deleted the 2nd, then tried to rename the 1st to the 2nd, but it says it has to be unique within the project, is that something you can help me with. Deleted name space is "Icecrown/Grand_Champions" in project litte-wigs.`
`14:51.59`	`mitch0`	`harl: set up pets to be beside/under the owner's frame?`
`14:52.16`	`ckknight`	`the trick is to realize there's no such thing as deletion`
`14:52.48`	`ulic`	`so I can undelete the old one, rename it to ..2 or something, then delete, and rename the first?`
`14:52.48`	`mitch0`	`there is no spoon`
`14:53.08`	`ckknight`	`yes, ulic`
`14:53.22`	`harl`	`mitch0: i have.. still, there's the emptiness between party members then if they don't have a "pet"`
`14:53.40`	`mitch0`	`put the pets to the side then :P`
`14:54.14`	`mitch0`	`my agUF is set up like that (just a simple health bar with the name on it for the pets)`
`14:54.15`	`harl`	`at the side, there are the corresponding target frames..`
`14:54.28`	`mitch0`	`above/below those`
`14:54.31`	`mitch0`	`be creative! :)`
`14:56.17`	`ulic`	`ckknight: is there a way to find the deleted one, other than being cleaver enough to just put it into the url?`
`14:56.37`	`ulic`	`couldn't find it, but put in the url so I'm all good, but was just curious.`
`14:56.58`	`ckknight`	`ulic: not sure.`
`14:57.09`	`ulic`	`ok`
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`16:32.21`	`[SW]Dodge`	`lf 4 huter /qry me pls =)`
`16:32.26`	`[SW]Dodge`	`hunter*`
`16:32.36`	`[SW]Dodge`	`or at least highlight =D`
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`16:34.24`	`Repo`	`- 3.2.0 updated TOC`
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`16:58.10`	`Repo`	`- Difficulty filters added (and the foundation for adding any type of filter in the future, needed for custom categories).`
`16:58.13`	`Repo`	`- When clicking an open category, it now closes it instead of doing nothing.`
`16:58.16`	`Repo`	`- Bugfix where some addons/situations could cause script errors when trying to hide the tradeskill window (when it didn't exist).`
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`17:05.00`	`Fisker`	`gentlemen`
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`17:22.19`	`Adirelle`	`hrm, is "raid1pet" a valid unit ?`
`17:23.06`	`nevcairiel`	`i think its raidpet1`
`17:23.34`	`sb\|work`	`wtf`
`17:23.48`	`sb\|work`	`no more bigwigs bars for beasts? :o`
`17:23.53`	`Adirelle`	`I also think so but I wanted to be sure (and can't join a party or raid ATM)`
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`17:24.06`	`asmodai`	`ouch: http://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Cho%27gall_US`
`17:24.13`	`asmodai`	`almost solely Horde controlled :\|`
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`17:24.45`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: chances are HealComm:UNIT_PET does not properly update the unitToGuid map (line #2217)`
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`17:26.10`	`Shadowed`	`Adirelle: hrm`
`17:26.20`	`Shadowed`	`Adirelle: Period or just grouped peopl?`
`17:26.28`	`Shadowed`	`er wait`
`17:26.30`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: grouped people`
`17:26.36`	`Adirelle`	`not sure that raid1pet is a valid unit`
`17:26.37`	`yoshimo`	`does the most recent bw release still suffer from the logical flaw at the valkyrtwins?`
`17:26.41`	`Shadowed`	`Yea it should work, it should be raid#pet and party#pet not partypet1?`
`17:26.49`	`Shadowed`	`no wait`
`17:26.51`	`Shadowed`	`I'm thinking of uh`
`17:26.54`	`Shadowed`	`target`
`17:26.58`	`Shadowed`	`k yea I'll get it fixed`
`17:27.02`	`steev`	`is there an addon or a way to move the achievement frame?`
`17:27.03`	`Adirelle`	`thanks`
`17:27.07`	`steev`	`like when you get one?`
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`17:29.29`	`industrial`	`is ALT_KEY a global var?`
`17:29.59`	`industrial`	`seems it is and its just a string`
`17:32.38`	`copystring`	`why is my project on curseforge when i created it on wowace? O_o`
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`17:33.46`	`Zhinjio`	`DK levelling spec recommendations?`
`17:34.21`	`Repo`	`10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * b2.3-3-gf4c6ac4 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed pet -> guid map not working`
`17:34.24`	`Shadowed`	`Adirelle: ^`
`17:34.41`	`Shadowed`	`Adirelle: I am still noticing issues with your GetHealAmount, I can' duplicate it consistently but it's happening a few times`
`17:36.14`	`yoshimo`	`steev, iirc overachiever can move the achievement frame`
`17:37.05`	`CrazyBenny`	`steev: you can use DragEmAll, which makes all default wow frames draggable`
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`17:41.10`	`Pneumatus`	`Zhinjio: whichever you prefer, you can just faecrol regardless`
`17:41.17`	`Zhinjio`	`nods.`
`17:41.31`	`Zhinjio`	`I did just find this:`
`17:41.33`	`Zhinjio`	`http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjamewowpro.blogspot.com%2F2008%2F10%2Fdeath-knight-best-leveling-spec.html&ei=LX-uSrWSNsK3twfjrMnWBw&usg=AFQjCNGmFYYtAk_zemUwilybnbf-g1pC_w&sig2=6t-NgiYgqQKD_KZ1CmVH1w`
`17:41.35`	`Zhinjio`	`whoa`
`17:41.38`	`Zhinjio`	`hang on`
`17:41.45`	`Zhinjio`	`http://jamewowpro.blogspot.com/2008/10/death-knight-best-leveling-spec.html`
`17:41.52`	`Zhinjio`	`that provides a nice summary`
`17:41.57`	`Zhinjio`	`and I'll go with that recommendation`
`17:42.15`	`Pneumatus`	`looks out of date`
`17:42.51`	`nevcairiel`	`I used that when leveling my initial DK`
`17:42.57`	`nevcairiel`	`but i bets its not really accurate anymore`
`17:43.23`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh, its out of date, it refers to UB as AoE`
`17:43.25`	`Pneumatus`	`which it isnt anymore`
`17:43.30`	`Pneumatus`	`its a dot after deathcoil`
`17:43.56`	`Pneumatus`	`that's based on 3.0 unholy, which was pro`
`17:43.59`	`rubik`	`interesting.. was wondering what to do with my L69 DK for leveling (was going to dust it off and waste some time on it)`
`17:44.13`	`rubik`	`i just picked mostly blood stuff and it's working out OK.. shrug`
`17:44.16`	`Pneumatus`	`i'd be willing to wager blood is the 'best' now`
`17:44.27`	`yoshimo`	`is the bigwigs alpha stable enough to use it for raids tonight?`
`17:44.42`	`Pneumatus`	`yoshimo: no idea about deDE, but enUS it's been fine`
`17:45.07`	`Pneumatus`	`i think the locale problems were sorted out recently`
`17:45.08`	`Pneumatus`	`so`
`17:45.11`	`Pneumatus`	`probably :)`
`17:45.16`	`yoshimo`	`we will see ;)`
`17:45.58`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: on which cases (spells ?)`
`17:46.09`	`Shadowed`	`Rejuvenation at a 4s time band`
`17:46.28`	`Adirelle`	`(BTW could the pet unit->guid map bug preventing callbacks to be fired ?)`
`17:46.57`	`yoshimo`	`and ill test lhc4 under raidconditions shadowed, although im most likely the only one using it`
`17:47.00`	`Shadowed`	`mmmm`
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`17:47.31`	`Shadowed`	`It shouldn't Adirelle, but even if it was all it would prevent are callback on group vehicles and group pets`
`17:47.53`	`Shadowed`	`yoshimo: I pushed SUF live with LHC4 partially to get more testing on it live before I do a stable tag as well.`
`17:48.16`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: that is sufficient to explain why I've seen quirks with others' pets`
`17:48.28`	`yoshimo`	`live? so no more gitfetches? ok`
`17:48.37`	`Shadowed`	`Live version is latest git`
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`17:49.23`	`Shadowed`	`nonetheless, must run back in a bit`
`17:50.51`	`yoshimo`	`which version? r20090913 ?`
`17:52.47`	`sylvanaar`	`good morning folks`
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`17:55.12`	`asmodai`	`There was someone on this channel a while ago who asked/said something about a 1-2s freeze of the screen whenever logging out/quitting.`
`17:55.32`	`steev`	`asmodai: i get that`
`17:58.55`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: about the healamount issue, wouldn't be useful to count remaining ticks and update next tick based on actual tick timestamps ?`
`17:59.26`	`asmodai`	`steev: same here`
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`18:00.06`	`asmodai`	`steev: quite annoying. But does it come back with the timer already having counted down 1-3s for you as well?`
`18:03.31`	`steev`	`asmodai: yes - but i also get that "pause" when i log out in an inn/city`
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`18:04.39`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: about the double-tick, we agree that a 4 seconds time band can actually include 2 two ticks ?`
`18:06.44`	`Repo`	`10vendorsearch: 03adriweb 04v1.99 * r48 : Tagging as v1.99`
`18:10.09`	`asmodai`	`steev: not sure if I tried that or noticed it`
`18:10.11`	`asmodai`	`jesus`
`18:10.20`	`asmodai`	`why is it that the latency icon shows 70 ms`
`18:10.24`	`asmodai`	`yet it feels like 0.5s`
`18:10.40`	`asmodai`	`(which is also about what Quartz shows on its bar)`
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`18:18.48`	`asmodai`	`this was ridiculous`
`18:19.37`	`asmodai`	`Don't have any issues with websites or whatever, yet the lag spikes in wow were bad >_< from 400ms to 1200ms`
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`18:26.05`	`mitchnull`	`has anyone measured the perf hit of using a metatable for nil-value defaults? :)`
`18:26.40`	`taleden`	`mitchnull: depends how you implement the __index`
`18:26.57`	`taleden`	`if it's a second table, then it's just another table lookup, so the nil->default is ~ 2x a non-nil lookup`
`18:27.08`	`taleden`	`if it's a function, that's a bit slower, dunno the ratio`
`18:28.20`	`mitchnull`	`taleden: so would it make sense to implement __index to populate the "main" table with the default values so that subsequent gets would be faster?`
`18:28.43`	`taleden`	`unless you're querying that main table several times an OnUpdate I'd be surprised if you noticed any difference`
`18:30.10`	`mitchnull`	`well, I already deep-copy table values, might as well copy the rest just for consistency's sake`
`18:30.17`	`taleden`	`simply calling a function already costs as much as several table lookups, so unless you're to the point of optimizing away individual calls to local functions, I wouldn't bother copying from an __index table to the main table`
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`18:30.28`	`taleden`	`yeah, one way or the other code simplicity probably wins over performance considerations for that`
`18:31.05`	`taleden`	`although it will cost more memory to copy the values back to the main table`
`18:31.35`	`mitchnull`	`not much data in the defaults table, and what's in there would be probably overwritten anyway later on`
`18:32.11`	`taleden`	`well, if the defaults table changes later, do you want to have to worry about re-syncing all the copied values rather than having __index see them automatically?`
`18:32.23`	`taleden`	`or, on the other hand, do you want to make sure the main tables remain consistent even if the defaults change?`
`18:33.14`	`nicoli_s`	`hey Kaelten, got a name for yer kittyy et?`
`18:33.54`	`sb\|work`	`W#@&`
`18:33.55`	`sb\|work`	`finally`
`18:34.18`	`sb\|work`	`disconn^Wnorthrend beasts down :p`
`18:34.41`	`Pneumatus`	`grats, jaraxus and champs are easy, valks arent :p`
`18:34.55`	`ThiefMaster`	`[bigwigs] a 15y range display in the northreand beasts hardmode fight phase 2 would be good even if you don't have the fire debuff so you know if someone's too near (so the poison doesn't hit more than one person)`
`18:35.12`	`Pneumatus`	`sb\|work: did you get the belt? :>`
`18:35.26`	`Pneumatus`	`(or the robe)`
`18:35.36`	`Kaelten`	`nicoli_s: not yet :/`
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`18:36.29`	`steev`	`ThiefMaster: try in #bigwigs`
`18:39.18`	`mitchnull`	`thief: install RangeDisplay :P`
`18:39.39`	`ThiefMaster`	`afaik it displays the range to a target/focus`
`18:39.50`	`mitchnull`	`or mouseover`
`18:39.53`	`ThiefMaster`	`and as a dps i can't target other players just to see how far they are away`
`18:39.53`	`ThiefMaster`	`ah`
`18:40.05`	`mitchnull`	`on ze tooltipz`
`18:40.14`	`mitchnull`	`erm, cursoe position even`
`18:40.19`	`mitchnull`	`forget the tooltipz`
`18:40.32`	`mitchnull`	`(you can anchor that to where your tooltips are, though)`
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`18:54.58`	`sb\|work`	`Pneumatus: no`
`18:55.06`	`sb\|work`	`Pneumatus: i got the belt from anub 10`
`18:55.16`	`sb\|work`	`nice one`
`18:55.47`	`Pneumatus`	`i'm gonna have to break my 4pc t8 soon :<`
`18:56.18`	`sb\|work`	`i already did that`
`18:56.28`	`sb\|work`	`fuck that bonus :p`
`18:56.34`	`sb\|work`	`i also broke 2pc :p`
`18:56.42`	`sb\|work`	`random items are far better`
`18:56.50`	`Pneumatus`	`2pc is useless anyway`
`18:57.01`	`sb\|work`	`8k PoM crits are nice :p`
`18:57.14`	`Pneumatus`	`oh, thought you meant t8 p2`
`18:57.18`	`sb\|work`	`yea`
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`18:57.27`	`sb\|work`	`but i lost like 1k mana :p`
`18:57.29`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh, i can count my PoH casts on 1 hand`
`18:57.48`	`Pneumatus`	`PoM however gets used all the time`
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`18:59.05`	`[SW]Dodge`	`how to get the numer of parameters i passed to a function like foo(...) ?`
`18:59.13`	`Pneumatus`	`#...`
`18:59.18`	`nevcairiel`	`select('#', ...)`
`18:59.18`	`Pneumatus`	`idk`
`18:59.21`	`Pneumatus`	`ah yeh`
`18:59.25`	`Codayus_`	`For priests, 4pc t8 bonus is nice, but it can't really compete against the raw stats on ToC gear. :-/`
`18:59.28`	`[SW]Dodge`	`'... errors :D`
`18:59.37`	`[SW]Dodge`	`thanks nevcairiel, i'll test that =D`
`18:59.56`	`nevcairiel`	`lua> f(...) print(select('#',...)) end; f(a, b, c, d)`
`18:59.56`	`lua_bot`	`nevcairiel: luabot:1: '<eof>' expected near 'end'`
`19:00.04`	`nevcairiel`	`lua> function f(...) print(select('#',...)) end; f(a, b, c, d)`
`19:00.07`	`Codayus_`	`And at least for disc, the 4pc t9 bonus is so incredibly weak, I'm not even planning on trying to collect it. Pity, I like using sets.`
`19:00.07`	`lua_bot`	`nevcairiel: 4`
`19:00.11`	`nevcairiel`	`^`
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`19:00.33`	`Pneumatus`	`i dunno, 20% more aegis could account for a lot of absorb`
`19:01.21`	`sb\|work`	`Codayus_: disc is weak?`
`19:01.24`	`Pneumatus`	`or 10% even`
`19:01.28`	`Codayus_`	`Pneumatus: Not really.`
`19:01.36`	`sb\|work`	`then look at the renew thingie... :p`
`19:01.53`	`Pneumatus`	`i've not WoL'd for a while to see what kind of aegis absorb i'm making in a fight`
`19:02.02`	`Codayus_`	`Becuase it is multipicative, not additive.`
`19:02.34`	`Codayus_`	`So it takes DA from 30% to 33%, not 40%. The latter would be good, the former is not. :(`
`19:02.52`	`steev`	`Codayus_: i don't want the t9 bonus just because of the damn look of the armor`
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`19:04.50`	`Codayus_`	`It's all been going downhill since T5, IMHO.`
`19:05.13`	`Codayus_`	`(In terms of looks.)`
`19:05.44`	`Pneumatus`	`T6 looked good`
`19:06.04`	`sb\|work`	`hmhmmmm`
`19:06.13`	`sb\|work`	`vhaarr!`
`19:06.23`	`sb\|work`	`bigwigs whispers even with whisper option disabled :p`
`19:06.29`	`sb\|work`	`jaraxxus flame`
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`19:07.04`	`Codayus_`	`...I meant T6, yes. Although T5 was nice too, apart from the shoulders.`
`19:07.53`	`Pneumatus`	`T6 was the only set i'd ever completed i think`
`19:08.24`	`Shefki`	`Pneumatus: All 8 pieces?`
`19:08.29`	`Pneumatus`	`yah`
`19:09.05`	`Pneumatus`	`oh i lie, i completed T1 on my hunter many many moons ago`
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`19:09.32`	`Shefki`	`I have a full set of T6 tokens unspent.`
`19:10.48`	`Codayus_`	`My guild kind of imploded near the end of TBC, and I never got any T6. I'm actually working on collecting them now, but it's hard to find runs. Wonder how many people it'll take to do a Hyjall clear at 85? :-)`
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`19:11.58`	`Shadowed`	`Adirelle: still there?`
`19:13.31`	`Repo`	`10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-235-gd6a399a / (4 files in 2 directories): [+13 commits] (9 truncated)`
`19:13.34`	`Repo`	`d6a399a: Add Witnerspring frostsaber to the mix`
`19:13.37`	`Repo`	`b15e840: Flag all mounts from pre-1.4 correctly.`
`19:13.40`	`Repo`	`8b00e2c: Update the DK mounts, added class flag similar to how ARL handles specialties.`
`19:13.43`	`Repo`	`3adb038: More mount db updates`
`19:14.03`	`sb\|work`	`@describe collectinator`
`19:14.24`	`sb\|work`	`Pneumatus: i can't decide what stat to stack.. nothing is really good...`
`19:14.26`	`Repo`	`sb\|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/collectinator/. Collectinator. What it does Provides methods for determining which mini-pets, mounts, and tabards you are missing. Where to get it WoW Ace -...`
`19:14.47`	`Pneumatus`	`im still stacking int because stacking sp or haste never worked out for me`
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`19:15.14`	`sb\|work`	`mh`
`19:15.25`	`sb\|work`	`i don't see the point in more int`
`19:15.36`	`sb\|work`	`crit+haste are just there`
`19:15.38`	`Pneumatus`	`more crit, more regen`
`19:15.46`	`sb\|work`	`more regen maybe...`
`19:15.48`	`Pneumatus`	`means you can drop spririt/mp5`
`19:15.53`	`sb\|work`	`yea`
`19:16.03`	`Pneumatus`	`and take sp/haste/crit items that have no regen stats on`
`19:16.12`	`sb\|work`	`i already do :p`
`19:16.14`	`sb\|work`	`giev armory plz ;`
`19:16.15`	`Codayus_`	`If you have mana issues, int is the stat to stack. ...to the extent you can, which is basically just gems and to a lesser extent trinkets...`
`19:16.54`	`sb\|work`	`i don't have mana issues`
`19:16.59`	`sb\|work`	`i don't have any issues... %-)`
`19:17.03`	`Pneumatus`	`i do on shieldspam fights`
`19:17.03`	`sb\|work`	`so i think i should stack SP`
`19:17.13`	`Codayus_`	`sb\|work: Run with fewer healers then.`
`19:17.30`	`sb\|work`	`mh, i don't want to do beasts with 5 healers, really...`
`19:17.37`	`Codayus_`	`(Okay, not really.)`
`19:17.38`	`Pneumatus`	`why 5 healers? :o`
`19:17.43`	`sb\|work`	`because 6 - 1 = 5 :p`
`19:17.56`	`sb\|work`	`and "fewer healers" is " - 1" :p`
`19:18.21`	`Pneumatus`	`2 tanks 6 healers gives more than enough dps and sufficient healing`
`19:18.44`	`sb\|work`	`yep`
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`19:18.51`	`Pneumatus`	`less healers would just be harsh as hell`
`19:18.56`	`sb\|work`	`but Codayus_ told me to run with fewer healers :)`
`19:19.21`	`sb\|work`	`Ackis: ITS BROKEN`
`19:20.08`	`Codayus_`	`Hey, it's one way to make you feel like you need gear upgrades.`
`19:20.15`	`sb\|work`	`:)`
`19:20.25`	`Ackis`	`sb\|work: what's broken?`
`19:20.35`	`Pneumatus`	`disc really sucks for scaling and always has done though`
`19:20.35`	`Pneumatus`	`so`
`19:20.48`	`Pneumatus`	`no stat stacks anywhere near as well as other healing specs`
`19:21.00`	`sb\|work`	`Ackis: mh, "scan" button`
`19:21.11`	`sb\|work`	`Collectinator-Alpha 3 76\Collectinator.lua:209: attempt to call global 'InitDatabases' (a nil value)`
`19:21.14`	`sb\|work`	Collectinator-Alpha 3 76\Collectinator.lua:304: in function `DoCompleteScan'
`19:21.46`	`Ackis`	`sb\|work: how can it be broken if it never worked before? muhahaha (can you pastey me the entire error, it should work for mini-pets at least)`
`19:21.53`	`sb\|work`	`hm yea :/`
`19:22.29`	`Venara`	`uh, Ackis is doing another one of his great addons`
`19:22.38`	`Venara`	`i'm looking forward to this one`
`19:22.40`	`Pneumatus`	`s/great/fail/`
`19:22.41`	`sb\|work`	`Ackis: http://pastey.net/125160`
`19:22.42`	`Pneumatus`	`oops`
`19:22.51`	`Ackis`	`:P`
`19:22.55`	`Venara`	`cheer Ackis`
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`19:25.04`	`Ackis`	`sb\|work: I know the issue :) that version is from february ahha`
`19:25.26`	`sb\|work`	`eh hm`
`19:25.30`	`Ackis`	`@wowspell 6648`
`19:25.34`	`Ackis`	`I have packaging disabled`
`19:25.34`	`sb\|work`	`then enable the packager`
`19:25.37`	`Ackis`	`will turn it back on`
`19:25.42`	`sb\|work`	`:/`
`19:25.42`	`Ackis`	`:P`
`19:25.48`	`sb\|work`	`faildev :p`
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`19:27.45`	`Repo`	`10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-236-gedf023b DB/MountDatabase.lua: [+1 commit] Add a couple more acquire infos and turn on teh packager!!`
`19:28.02`	`Ackis`	`there you go !!!!!!!!11!!!!!1!11!2`
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`19:28.19`	`Ackis`	`pets has a bunch of info in it, mounts is lacking`
`19:28.27`	`Ackis`	`it won't display vendors, quests, etc`
`19:28.50`	`Repo`	`10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * b2.3-5-gca35e61 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]`
`19:28.52`	`Ackis`	`(yet)`
`19:28.54`	`Repo`	`ca35e61: Fixed TargetLast using too low of a priority causing an invalid GUID to be found`
`19:28.57`	`Repo`	`efed945: Fixed TOC referencing CallbackHandler-1.0.lua instead of xml`
`19:28.59`	`Ackis`	`I should embed libhealcom in it eh?`
`19:29.05`	`Ackis`	`so mounts can heal each other and stuffz`
`19:29.25`	`Shadowed`	`Sounds like a good plan`
`19:29.31`	`Ackis`	`on a side note I just ate a wicked donair`
`19:29.36`	`Venara`	`My Hyacinth Mackaw wants to heal too!`
`19:29.46`	`Ackis`	`pfft`
`19:32.10`	`Repo`	`10collectinator: 03Ackis 04Alpha2 * 3bf6341 /: [new tag] Tagging as alpha 2 just to get Curse updated with something that actually works.`
`19:32.50`	`sb\|work`	`bah`
`19:33.00`	`sb\|work`	`we are to dumb for jaraxxus hero :p`
`19:33.22`	`Ackis`	`I'm too dumb for HToC apparently`
`19:33.30`	`Ackis`	`(still looking for a guilde to get me achivements PST)`
`19:35.21`	`Pneumatus`	`11 wipes so far on twinvalks and i think we've managed like 80% at best ;)`
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`19:37.25`	`sb\|work`	`Pneumatus: 11 remaining for jaraxxus... :p`
`19:37.32`	`Pneumatus`	`sb\|work: you should get him`
`19:37.47`	`sb\|work`	`yea... don't tell me`
`19:37.50`	`Pneumatus`	`as long as your dps is capable of switching to portals and volcanos :)`
`19:37.56`	`sb\|work`	`thats the point :p`
`19:38.00`	`sb\|work`	`works for first portal + volcano`
`19:38.02`	`sb\|work`	`but thats it :p`
`19:38.13`	`Pneumatus`	`i did 10 second countdowns on vent`
`19:38.16`	`Pneumatus`	`so people couldnt ignore it`
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`19:39.15`	`sb\|work`	`we burned way to many tries on disconnect beasts :/`
`19:39.53`	`Pneumatus`	`took us 17 wipes this week`
`19:40.04`	`sb\|work`	`mh...`
`19:40.13`	`Pneumatus`	`7 on jaraxxus, 7 on faction champs`
`19:40.51`	`Pneumatus`	`all first kills`
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`19:40.52`	`Pneumatus`	`sorry, 6 on champs`
`19:40.52`	`Pneumatus`	`which left us with 20 for valks today`
`19:43.37`	`Repo`	`10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2275 / (6 files in 6 directories): - Added Cooking Daily rewards`
`19:43.40`	`Repo`	`- Added Fishing Daily rewards`
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`19:45.23`	`NeoTron`	`how does hard modes in the arena compare to ulduar in difficulty?`
`19:46.23`	`Pneumatus`	`hard`
`19:46.29`	`sb\|work`	`yea.. hard :p`
`19:46.33`	`Bribri`	`what`
`19:46.39`	`Bribri`	`no way`
`19:46.43`	`Bribri`	`maybe valkys and on`
`19:47.43`	`Repo`	`10lib-st: 03ddumont * r118 Core.lua: removal of legacy testing code.`
`19:47.57`	`Pneumatus`	`beasts + valks at least are far harder than any of the ulduar hardmodes with the possible exception of yogg+0`
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`19:48.21`	`Bribri`	`beasts are a billion times easier to prenerf firefighter`
`19:49.12`	`Repo`	`10castbars: 03xbeeps * r46 Castbars.lua:`
`19:49.15`	`Repo`	`Implement some simple counter-measures, making it more resilient to other addons attempting to move around the frames or sub elements of the frames. This includes, but is not limited to CT_Mod, Skinner and Titan bar.`
`19:49.18`	`Repo`	`Fix a bug that caused errors when the standard target/focus castbar on the blizzard target/focus frames were enabled.`
`19:49.18`	`Bribri`	`I agree valks are hard though`
`19:50.16`	`Pneumatus`	`beasts is a bigger learning curve though imo, just down to the limited wipes you can make on it`
`19:50.21`	`Pneumatus`	`well, and valks ofc`
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`19:50.36`	`Bribri`	`how is beasts even a learning curve?`
`19:50.49`	`Bribri`	`it's pretty much just a gear check after you've learned the normal mode strat`
`19:51.06`	`Pneumatus`	`not at all, you can bruteforce easymode with zero trouble`
`19:51.07`	`Repo`	`10castbars: 03xbeeps 042.15 * r47 : Tagging as 2.15`
`19:51.07`	`Bribri`	`maybe some minor quirks thrown in due to raid makeup`
`19:51.22`	`Pneumatus`	`hell, pugs clear beasts easymode`
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`19:52.00`	`Bribri`	`it's still mostly the same fight`
`19:53.41`	`Pneumatus`	`oh well, 7 more wipes left and then we get to have another pop at algalon :o`
`19:54.22`	`sb\|work`	`9 :/`
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`20:00.08`	`NeoTron`	`just seems like people are making better progress with them than ulduar`
`20:00.20`	`NeoTron`	`but that might primarily be due to the design allowing parallell progression`
`20:00.27`	`NeoTron`	`so more people can afford to spend time on the hard modes`
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`20:04.00`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh, thats the key point`
`20:04.06`	`Pneumatus`	`you dont have to leave bosses up or whatever`
`20:04.11`	`Pneumatus`	`which was a right ballache in ulduar`
`20:04.28`	`Pneumatus`	`picking and chosing what to kill and what to leave, and then having to leave half a night to clear the instance`
`20:04.49`	`NeoTron`	`imho ulduar hard mode setup was a management nightmare`
`20:05.21`	`Shefki`	`I think the progress is mostly the fact that all of these hard modes are fairly well tuned.`
`20:05.26`	`Shefki`	`THey're not too hard or too terribly easy.`
`20:05.32`	`Pneumatus`	`yeh, deciding what to skip, what to kill on normal, what to kill on hard, how much time you need left to finish the instance etc`
`20:05.40`	`Shefki`	`Some of the stuff in Ulduar was pretty downright impossible when they first put it in.`
`20:05.57`	`Pneumatus`	`heartbreaker, for example`
`20:06.09`	`Pneumatus`	`prenerf (aka impossible)`
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`20:06.35`	`Shefki`	`Exactly.`
`20:06.54`	`Shefki`	`Also it's easy to forget how everyone had multiple weeks to practice on normal mode before hard modes fully unlocked.`
`20:07.03`	`Pneumatus`	`jaraxxus and faction champs seem undertuned though`
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`20:07.31`	`Pneumatus`	`in comparison to beasts and valks`
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`20:09.40`	`Shefki`	`Beasts has been nerfed.`
`20:09.46`	`Shefki`	`Jaraxxus got buffed.`
`20:09.55`	`Shefki`	`Faction champs I think varies with what you get.`
`20:10.06`	`Pneumatus`	`we did jaraxxus last night and it was easy :o`
`20:10.10`	`Pneumatus`	`and beasts was hard :P`
`20:10.28`	`Pneumatus`	`and valks is insane :)`
`20:10.42`	`Bribri`	`valks isn't insane it's just annoyingly homosexual`
`20:11.35`	`Pneumatus`	`i dunno, 16 wipes in and our best attempt was 50%`
`20:11.44`	`Pneumatus`	`and that was more a fluke than anything i think`
`20:11.47`	`Bribri`	`41 and our best was 10% =(`
`20:12.10`	`Bribri`	`but I still wouldn't say insane`
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`20:12.30`	`Bribri`	`it was the same people dying because they fail at moving away from an orb that kills them`
`20:12.30`	`Pneumatus`	`41 attempts in ulduar is like 2 nights of raids though`
`20:12.31`	`Pneumatus`	`due to runback time + respawning trash`
`20:12.39`	`Pneumatus`	`in coliseum you can do that in a night`
`20:12.46`	`Bribri`	`yup`
`20:12.50`	`Bribri`	`that was a long night`
`20:14.56`	`Shefki`	`I still think that their intentions with TOC is that it be fairly easy and is a gear up/break point before Ulduar.`
`20:15.00`	`Shefki`	`err Icecrown`
`20:15.05`	`Bribri`	`I agree`
`20:16.42`	`Pneumatus`	`well yeh, seeing as you can get triumph from lots of things even if you're casual`
`20:17.08`	`sb\|work`	`head -> wall`
`20:17.34`	`Pneumatus`	`pretty much everyone could be in 232 epics if they wanted to be`
`20:17.38`	`Pneumatus`	`without raiding`
`20:18.21`	`Pneumatus`	`+245 offset bits`
`20:19.42`	`Pneumatus`	`reminds me of sunwell release`
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`20:21.46`	`Repo`	`10arl: 03pompachomp * r2474 RecipeDB/ARL-Alchemy.lua: Worked more on ticket 804, refining the alchemy database.`
`20:22.07`	`rubik`	`whoever said faction champs is easy, try a hard combo on 10m-hard.. QQ`
`20:22.38`	`Pneumatus`	`we've done faction champs 10man each week, and its been fine :P`
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`20:22.58`	`Pneumatus`	`burn a melee dps or two at the start and you win`
`20:23.04`	`rubik`	`10-man heroic/hard?`
`20:23.09`	`Pneumatus`	`ofc`
`20:23.21`	`rubik`	`hmm.. dunno.. we had too hard a combo i thought`
`20:23.26`	`rubik`	`wasted like 10 wipes`
`20:23.52`	`Pneumatus`	`it's all about stopping the guys that instagib, and casters running the hell away from melee :)`
`20:24.10`	`rubik`	`resto sham/druid tree/warlock/spriest/ret pally/warrior`
`20:24.32`	`sb\|work`	`fucking stupid dps`
`20:24.34`	`Pneumatus`	`warrior -> ret -> healers -> casters`
`20:24.43`	`sb\|work`	`they cant dps 2nd portal before 2nd maiden`
`20:24.43`	`sb\|work`	`wtf`
`20:24.45`	`Pneumatus`	`cc the healers at the start, etc`
`20:25.01`	`Pneumatus`	`we got a 2nd maiden a couple of times, its ok as long as healers know they are gonna get counterspelled`
`20:25.05`	`rubik`	`we tried.. but they had too many dispells or cc breaks`
`20:25.28`	`rubik`	`finally worked by killing tree first, then resto shammy... we kept trying resto shammy first`
`20:26.09`	`rubik`	`sb\|work: on 10m hard, that portal can be tough before 2nd maiden if people don't switch quick enough and burn it`
`20:26.14`	`Pneumatus`	`killing healers first usually results in us losing squidgy players`
`20:26.39`	`Pneumatus`	`sb\|work: your melee know that the spawn locations are predictable right?`
`20:26.47`	`rubik`	`true, but we usually have our two tanks (dk & warrior) lock down the hard hitting melees`
`20:27.05`	`sb\|work`	`rubik: err 10 is easy`
`20:27.07`	`sb\|work`	`Pneumatus: yep`
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`20:27.23`	`Bribri`	`even if a second maiden spawns all is not lost`
`20:27.32`	`Pneumatus`	`are you popping hero/bl on the first portal?`
`20:27.36`	`Bribri`	`it's not like burning down maidens is that hard`
`20:27.45`	`Pneumatus`	`extra maidens just mean more silence`
`20:28.40`	`rubik`	`yeah.. 2nd maiden made our healers QQ too much`
`20:29.03`	`rubik`	`since they couldn't heal much/at all`
`20:30.33`	`Pneumatus`	`its a counterspell though, so smart healers will force it to lock their non-healing school`
`20:31.06`	`Pneumatus`	`priests mindblast etc`
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`20:44.14`	`Repo`	`10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha2-5-g355c9fc / (4 files in 2 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)`
`20:44.17`	`Repo`	`355c9fc: Convert a bunch of the code to use constants. WTB include constants.h`
`20:44.20`	`Repo`	`b7af7a5: Remove text based debug dump.`
`20:44.23`	`Repo`	`5c6699e: Add some constants to the main file.`
`20:44.26`	`Repo`	`a5e4dee: More mount info added`
`20:45.46`	`theoddone33`	`this is brilliant`
`20:46.43`	`theoddone33`	`[4] [80:Munchii]: this mage whispered me asking 'can i join the guild'`
`20:47.13`	`theoddone33`	`[4] [80:Munchii]: and i tell him to apply`
`20:47.13`	`theoddone33`	`[4] [80:Munchii]: and he says'i dont want to do that'`
`20:47.14`	`theoddone33`	`[4] [80:Munchii]: his pve spec is 0/0/71 and 0/71/0`
`20:47.14`	`theoddone33`	`[4] [80:Munchii]: and he tells me he does 7.5k=10k dps in heriocs`
`20:47.36`	`theoddone33`	`[4] [80:Munchii]: i said thats more than i can do. you'll get raidspot everyday garuanteed`
`20:47.36`	`theoddone33`	`[4] [80:Munchii]: lol he says 'your guild must suck, in my old guildthe best did 29.5k`
`20:47.39`	`theoddone33`	`so much fun`
`20:48.44`	`pakoz`	`@theoddone, 30-32k dps is par for the course with 245 gear`
`20:48.51`	`pakoz`	`maybe it is your guild >>`
`20:49.09`	`theoddone33`	`shit :(`
`20:49.12`	`Sll`	`30k dps`
`20:49.12`	`Sll`	`lold`
`20:49.24`	`sb\|work`	`no`
`20:49.29`	`sb\|work`	`its 30k damage till death :p`
`20:49.46`	`pakoz`	`sbwork must speak troll ;]`
`20:50.29`	`theoddone33`	`http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Spirestone&n=Salvin`
`20:51.22`	`genetik-`	`sick hit rating`
`20:52.27`	`pakoz`	`any enhancement shamans around?`
`20:52.33`	`pakoz`	`erm, good enh shamans ;x`
`20:53.25`	`asmodai`	`pakoz: yo?`
`20:53.33`	`asmodai`	`does decently`
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`20:58.20`	`syeren`	`Good Enhancement Shaman.`
`20:58.23`	`syeren`	`sniggers`
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`21:27.03`	`pakoz`	`asmodai, you there?`
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`21:29.56`	`asmodai`	`anyone have any idea what might cause latency yoyo effects inside the game. One moment I have just normal 40 ms latency, next I know it's 400-500ms or then 1000-1400ms`
`21:30.18`	`asmodai`	`Browsing and all that works normally.`
`21:31.37`	`asmodai`	`So I am inclined to think it's Blizzard's server.`
`21:33.26`	`Gagorian`	`no u`
`21:33.56`	`asmodai`	`I welcome any elabotation.`
`21:34.55`	`Gagorian`	`elaboration?`
`21:35.49`	`asmodai`	`Well, "no u" is about as helpful as nothing, to be honest, to get an idea what to look for since all my other networking have no issues, just WoW.`
`21:36.14`	`Pneumatus`	`moh, why isnt oUF on curse :>`
`21:36.22`	`Pneumatus`	`*:< even`
`21:36.24`	`asmodai`	`Pneumatus: Eh? I saw them in cc`
`21:36.42`	`asmodai`	`Pneumatus: Or is that just extensions of oUF?`
`21:36.51`	`Pneumatus`	`some extensions are for sure`
`21:36.54`	`asmodai`	`Ah ok`
`21:37.06`	`Gagorian`	`Tried traceroute?`
`21:37.34`	`Primer`	`traceroute, that ICMP thing, that's usually blocked?`
`21:37.38`	`Primer`	`heh`
`21:37.40`	`Pneumatus`	`im thinking about switching to oUF and using d3orbs, because it looks sexy as hell`
`21:38.47`	`Primer`	`asmodai: I've found that my recent latency issues are caused by my ISP, who oversold their network`
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`21:39.07`	`Primer`	`asmodai: you on Time Warner's Roadrunner, by any chance?`
`21:39.13`	`asmodai`	`Nah, EU side`
`21:39.15`	`Gagorian`	`Primer: Well, if you think it's blocked in this case you can try yourself: tracert eu.logon.battle.net`
`21:39.24`	`asmodai`	`my ISP, XS4All, in general has their shit done well`
`21:39.34`	`Primer`	`Gagorian: just saying, traceroute is not always a viable option`
`21:39.36`	`asmodai`	`Only have had issues tonight.`
`21:39.48`	`Primer`	`since a lot of places filter ICMP`
`21:40.19`	`asmodai`	`my traceroute to battle.net go <= 25 ms`
`21:40.27`	`asmodai`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:40.27`	`asmodai`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:40.27`	`asmodai`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:40.27`	`asmodai`	`tion net unreachable.`
`21:40.39`	`asmodai`	`Hence why I wonder just what the hell is up.`
`21:40.45`	`Primer`	`blocked`
`21:40.46`	`Repo`	`10autoroller: 03Mecdemort * r28 / (3 files in 1 directory): Code cleanup`
`21:41.06`	`asmodai`	`Primer: Yeah, but at least to the colocation the RTTs are perfect`
`21:41.27`	`Primer`	`asmodai: yeah, that's good enough usually`
`21:42.05`	`asmodai`	`But then I wonder just what the heck causes my in-game issues.`
`21:42.14`	`Primer`	`but it seems you're trying to trace to the login server, which is surely not the IP address of your realm`
`21:42.24`	`asmodai`	`Nope, that much is true.`
`21:42.37`	`asmodai`	`Let me just post something on the forum and see what good that will do`
`21:42.53`	`Primer`	`I'd sniff the network to see where your traffic is really going`
`21:42.57`	`Primer`	`once you're in game`
`21:43.04`	`asmodai`	`Oh, I can do that of course.`
`21:43.12`	`asmodai`	`looks to see if Wireshark is still installed`
`21:43.23`	Funkeh`	`asmodai my tracert doesn't even mention telia before it dis :)`
`21:43.40`	Funkeh`	`goes through a bunch of att.net`
`21:43.47`	`asmodai`	Funkeh`: EU side?
`21:43.48`	`Primer`	`heh, I have a wrt54g that doesn't have enough space to accommodate tcpdump, so I have to copy it and libpcap into /tmp on every boot`
`21:43.50`	`Gagorian`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/EU_English_Realms_Info`
`21:43.51`	Funkeh`	`yes`
`21:44.08`	`Primer`	`running openwrt, of course`
`21:44.09`	`asmodai`	Funkeh`: It all depends on peering and such :)
`21:44.27`	`asmodai`	`Hmm`
`21:44.39`	`asmodai`	`Stormrage, like my previous server Thunderhorn is in Frankfurt.`
`21:45.00`	Funkeh`	`Tracing route to battle.net [12.129.242.40]`
`21:45.29`	Funkeh`	`16 160 ms 161 ms 160 ms mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.242`
`21:46.00`	`asmodai`	`why 12.x? mine is @ 213.x`
`21:46.14`	`asmodai`	`to my server's IP:`
`21:46.15`	`asmodai`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:46.15`	`asmodai`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:46.16`	`asmodai`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:46.20`	`asmodai`	`So that also seems ok`
`21:48.11`	`Repo`	`10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r288 RaidBuffStatus.toc: RaidBuffStatus:`
`21:48.13`	`Repo`	`- Shortened title.`
`21:48.33`	`Primer`	`hrmm`
`21:48.39`	`Primer`	`I might have to try that addon out`
`21:48.46`	`Primer`	`since BigBrother has become unusable`
`21:48.48`	Funkeh`	`Ackis, ping`
`21:51.27`	`Pneumatus`	`whats wrong with bb?`
`21:52.34`	`Primer`	`in a 25 man raid it causes my frame rate to drop below 1`
`21:52.44`	`Pneumatus`	`fine for me :o`
`21:53.08`	`Primer`	`I reported the issue, and others have acknowledged it`
`21:54.32`	`Primer`	`http://www.wowace.com/addons/big-brother/tickets/12-performance-issues-when-displaying-the-summary-window/`
`21:54.55`	`Primer`	`heh, just noticed the wowace background isn't fixed any more`
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`21:55.09`	`Primer`	`Really wish they'd fix that in FF`
`21:57.15`	`\|Dessa\|`	`hey, Ackis ever seen this kind of error before? -> [2009/09/14 23:47:06-4769-x1]: Collectinator-Alpha 3\CollectinatorFrame.lua:2510: main function has more than 200 local variables nice that you work on the addon again btw`
`21:58.26`	`Repo`	`10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2276 Modules/Crafting/crafting.lua: Updated crafted weapons section`
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`22:09.01`	`durcyn`	`scope is hard, apparently`
`22:09.08`	`durcyn`	`~lart Ackis`
`22:09.08`	`purl`	`teaches Ackis the basics, including how to RTM`
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`22:18.17`	`Repo`	`10bazooka (experimental): 03mitch0 * r14 / (2 files in 1 directory):`
`22:18.20`	`Repo`	`plugin positioning mostly working, some stuff shows on screen`
`22:25.26`	`Repo`	`10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6291 Core (2 files in 1 directory): Fix engage, death and enable syncs.`
`22:30.49`	`Repo`	`10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm * r62 / (3 files in 1 directory): Broker_ChannelWatch`
`22:30.52`	`Repo`	`-use blizz class function to ease localization`
`22:30.55`	`Repo`	`-automated localization`
`22:30.58`	`Repo`	`-removed unneeded localizations`
`22:33.01`	`Shadowed`	`wait a second!`
`22:33.04`	`Shadowed`	`Adirelle: you are probably there aren't you`
`22:33.30`	`Repo`	`10big-wigs: 03yoshimo * r6292 Coliseum/Locales/deDE.lua: Added deDE defeat-trigger`
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`22:39.15`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: back`
`22:39.29`	`Shadowed`	`Adirelle: IRC tag! Done with classes so not going to disappear, anyway`
`22:39.43`	`Shadowed`	`You mean the server delay in tick intervals I assume right?`
`22:39.54`	`Adirelle`	`yes`
`22:40.10`	`Adirelle`	`looking at rejuv, I saw 2.95, 3.07, 2.86, 3.25, ...`
`22:40.15`	`Shadowed`	`yea`
`22:40.22`	`Shadowed`	`I definitely think will need to go with the manual tracking stuff`
`22:40.28`	`Shadowed`	`which means more information to store which makes me sad :<`
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`22:41.28`	`Adirelle`	`I'm trying this right now, tracking "lastTickTime" and "ticksLeft" (which is optional but I wanted to check if it is accurate)`
`22:41.58`	`Adirelle`	`as I'm using this only for next tick, I consider hot start to be the last tick though it did not technically healed`
`22:42.29`	`Shadowed`	`Why consider hot start last tick?`
`22:42.47`	`Shadowed`	`You have access to the hots "real" duration with talents + end time so you can find the exact start time`
`22:44.51`	`Adirelle`	`actually, I could use the first real tick, that doesn't matter, I "modulo" the time to get the next tick`
`22:45.12`	`profalbert`	`Shefki or ckknight ping`
`22:45.41`	`Adirelle`	`wait no`
`22:45.56`	`Adirelle`	`actually I do this : local secondsLeft = (pending.lastTickTime + pending.tickInterval * pending.ticksLeft) - currentTime`
`22:46.17`	`Adirelle`	`and then calculates as usual`
`22:46.37`	`Shadowed`	`Can you do a clone of the repo or pastey it?`
`22:46.40`	`Adirelle`	`(except when no time band, in which case I simply add ticksLeft * amount)`
`22:47.04`	`Adirelle`	`clone would be easier I think`
`22:47.06`	`Adirelle`	`wait a minute`
`22:47.10`	`Shadowed`	`kk thanks`
`22:49.03`	`Shefki`	`profalbert: What's up?`
`22:50.18`	`profalbert`	`Shefki: I'm playing around with a luatext-module for cowtip, and the ScriptEnv from Pitbull4 would come in handy. may I use the Code?`
`22:50.32`	`Shefki`	`Sure.`
`22:50.44`	`profalbert`	`thankls`
`22:51.14`	`Ackis`	Funkeh`: I heard ARL is teh devil
`22:51.24`	`Ackis`	`[2009/09/14 16:44:36-200-x1]: Collectinator-Alpha 3\CollectinatorFrame.lua:2510: main function has more than 200 local variables`
`22:51.24`	`Ackis`	`that made me cry :(`
`22:51.28`	`Repo`	`10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Adirelle 06alternative-hots 07master * b2.3-6-gefa2c77 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Trying to track actual tick times to fix time drift ; unfinished.`
`22:51.53`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: it contains debug statements and code I'd like to change`
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`22:53.58`	`Stanzilla`	`Ackis: epic fail`
`22:54.29`	`Repo`	`10sdkp: 03NevetsNeirbo * r194 events.lua: Same as before.`
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`22:57.24`	`Shadowed`	`hrm`
`22:58.36`	`Shadowed`	`I am starting to wonder if dorm internet is blocking non-SSH git traffic`
`22:58.39`	`Shadowed`	`for some retarded reason`
`22:59.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`you mean the git:// protocol?`
`23:00.12`	`Shadowed`	`apparently yes`
`23:00.21`	`Shadowed`	`can you swap it to public access Adirelle`
`23:00.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`it uses port 9418`
`23:00.45`	`Shadowed`	`Arrowmaster: they block a ton of random stuff`
`23:00.54`	`Shadowed`	`it's a really stupid system so`
`23:01.11`	`Shadowed`	`But I had the same issue earlier where I couldn't pull data using git:// got git@blah worked fine`
`23:01.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`can you access that repo using ssh? or is that just limited to moderators`
`23:01.29`	`Shadowed`	`I can access it through SSH if he opens it to the public`
`23:01.46`	`Shadowed`	`actually maybe...`
`23:01.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`so you actually tried ssh and it didnt work?`
`23:02.05`	`Shadowed`	`No SSH works`
`23:02.12`	`Shadowed`	`I assume git:// does not go over SSH as it doesn't need to auth?`
`23:02.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`git:// uses port 9418, its a seperate protocol`
`23:03.15`	`Shadowed`	`git@git.wowace works (although it says no permissions so it exits), git://git.wowace just hangs`
`23:03.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`it might have support from some really basic http like auth but generally no it doesnt have auth`
`23:03.22`	`Shadowed`	`right`
`23:03.43`	`Shadowed`	`git uses SSH/public keys to auth, right?`
`23:03.44`	`Arrowmaster`	`yell at your dorms IT to open outbound 9418`
`23:03.55`	`Shadowed`	`I'd rather yell at them to not be etarded`
`23:04.12`	`Shadowed`	`retarded even`
`23:04.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`the git@git.wowace.com:wow/reponame/mainline.git uses ssh yes`
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`23:04.47`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats a scp like syntax`
`23:04.48`	`Shadowed`	`Yea I really am not sure how they set it up specifically, all I know is it's a terrible system and easy to get around`
`23:04.57`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: done`
`23:05.07`	`Shadowed`	`thanks Adirelle`
`23:05.32`	`Shadowed`	`They pretty much seem to block any traffic that is not port 80 unless it's SSH`
`23:06.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`they probably are just blocking anything to a destination port over 1024 unless its been whitelisted`
`23:07.04`	`Shadowed`	`You would think that, but no :<`
`23:07.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`well ssh is port 22 so they must not be blocking that`
`23:08.15`	`Shadowed`	`Port 587 is blocked, port 995 is not for example`
`23:08.20`	`Shadowed`	`so POP works, but SMTP doesn't`
`23:08.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`smtp is 25`
`23:08.45`	`Shadowed`	`SMTP is uh, 567 for google`
`23:08.52`	`Shadowed`	`I think it's in the 500s`
`23:08.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`something like that yeah`
`23:09.22`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: I disabled IRC announce btw`
`23:09.27`	`Shadowed`	`kk`
`23:09.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`587, with required TLS`
`23:09.46`	`Shadowed`	`ah yea`
`23:10.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`993 is default for IMAP with SSL i think`
`23:11.00`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: pushed a new change with a better code`
`23:11.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`or atleast it seems to be in email clients now`
`23:11.16`	`Shadowed`	`Adirelle: It won't be able to go live like that specifically though, as you can have one table containing multiple hots`
`23:11.20`	`Shadowed`	`with different end times`
`23:11.30`	`Shadowed`	`something like that yea Arrowmaster`
`23:13.03`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: erf...`
`23:13.03`	`Shadowed`	`yea :P`
`23:13.27`	`Shadowed`	`It's why I haven't added Wild Growth yet, because there's no "good" way to store 7 separate heals that isn't a lot of extra parsing`
`23:13.44`	`Shadowed`	`but since I'll end up swapping to your method, think I'm just going to end up going with a table recycler and store a lot more extra data in that`
`23:14.27`	`Shadowed`	`which I'm not a fan of, but I can't think of a better solution that is san`
`23:14.28`	`Shadowed`	`e`
`23:15.35`	`Adirelle`	`I'm quite happy ticksLeft never got under 0 ATM`
`23:15.46`	`Shadowed`	`yay!`
`23:15.50`	`Adirelle`	`^^`
`23:16.03`	`Shadowed`	`It's annoying that you had to resort to that solution but`
`23:16.10`	`Adirelle`	`I also hope we cannot miss any PERIODIC event`
`23:16.12`	`Shadowed`	`such is the life of doing addons`
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`23:16.29`	`Adirelle`	`I'll retest the tomorrow evening`
`23:16.33`	`Shadowed`	`The only time you will not get a PERIODIC event is you (or they) go outside of 100 yards while it's ticking`
`23:16.42`	`Shadowed`	`which could be a problem I suppose`
`23:16.45`	`Shadowed`	`mmmm`
`23:17.02`	`Adirelle`	`Dalaran half an hour before beginning of raid is laggy as heal`
`23:17.02`	`Adirelle`	`very interesting to see the time drift between UnitAura and the combat log`
`23:17.04`	`Shadowed`	`haha`
`23:17.14`	`Adirelle`	`er... hell, not heal`
`23:17.17`	`Adirelle`	`no pun intended`
`23:17.24`	`Adirelle`	`(tough it was funny)`
`23:17.38`	`Shadowed`	`:p`
`23:17.58`	`Shadowed`	`Although`
`23:18.34`	`Shadowed`	`Yea I guess ticks left is kind of necessary no matter what`
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`23:19.21`	`Adirelle`	`well, it is far easier to handle the end of the HoT this way`
`23:19.32`	`Shadowed`	`yea true`
`23:19.52`	`Shadowed`	`but it's going to need a mechanic to expire hots with`
`23:20.12`	`Adirelle`	`hmm ?`
`23:20.35`	`Shadowed`	`It already is going to remove the hot forcibly when it fades, but what if say you cast HoT on A and then A goes somewhere like Brain room on yogg and you never see the fade event`
`23:20.53`	`Shadowed`	`(I think Yogg brain gives events still to outside people, but you get the idea)`
`23:21.22`	`Mikk`	`Running out of range will do it just fine`
`23:21.29`	`Shadowed`	`or that`
`23:23.15`	`Shadowed`	`The endTime can be stored in SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL though so it's not recalculated each GetHealAmount, I'll think of a way to store the last tick/ticks left data`
`23:25.52`	`Shadowed`	`I'm glad this bug came out now, I would be worried if this had been released without any big breaks :<`
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`23:28.51`	`Pneumatus`	`im actually contemplating replacing default actionbars with bt4 so i can use http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12975-rBottomBarStylerDiablo.html`
`23:28.56`	`Pneumatus`	`as its so purrrrrty`
`23:29.38`	`Adirelle`	`Shadowed: for what I can test alone in Dalaran the latest push gives acceptable result`
`23:29.49`	`Adirelle`	`should do some weird testing now`
`23:30.04`	`Stanzilla`	`Pneumatus: but you can use that without bt4? :o`
`23:30.12`	`Adirelle`	`which I should do tomorrow during our 3vs3 matches`
`23:30.20`	`Shadowed`	`well`
`23:30.31`	`Shadowed`	`it probably won't work in your 3vs3 unless you only cast a hot on one person`
`23:30.39`	`Pneumatus`	`Stanzilla: you need a barmod, otherwise default ui bars just sit over the orbs`
`23:30.47`	`Adirelle`	`didn't catch that part :o`
`23:30.49`	`Pneumatus`	`and it looks a complete state`
`23:30.52`	`Adirelle`	`let me see the code`
`23:30.52`	`Pneumatus`	`i guess you could move the orbs`
`23:31.15`	`Adirelle`	`oh`
`23:31.16`	`Adirelle`	`got it`
`23:31.33`	`Shadowed`	`Adirelle: pendingHeals[casterGUID][spellID] is the table that contains the map of all heals cast by that GUID`
`23:31.33`	`Shadowed`	`thats why the table is both an indexed and hash table`
`23:32.01`	`Adirelle`	`hrmf`
`23:32.08`	`Shadowed`	`given that indexed tables recycle well, I think I'm going to change it from the 4 entries per user to one table per user and recycle that users table`
`23:32.25`	`Shadowed`	`Not the most efficient solution mind you, but it's likely the most sane one given Cataclysm will probably introduce more whackyass mechanics`
`23:32.28`	`Shadowed`	`(and Wild Growth)`
`23:33.37`	`Shadowed`	`If Blizzard adds a HoT with a variable interval I'll probably go bomb their building :<`
`23:33.46`	`Adirelle`	`xD`
`23:34.04`	`Adirelle`	`and er... well, what about hunter's pet heal ?`
`23:34.09`	`Adirelle`	`starts running.`
`23:34.15`	`Shadowed`	`shakes fist`
`23:34.22`	`Stanzilla`	`Pneumatus: ah sorry, forgot about that :) but he has rActionBarStyler, too`
`23:34.37`	`Shadowed`	`I was considering Frenzied Regeneration/Enraged Regeneration, but was too much of a pain in the ass`
`23:35.24`	`Pneumatus`	`Stanzilla: yeh, rActionButtonStyler is ok, except it does stupid things forcing you to replace textures`
`23:35.56`	`Stanzilla`	`^^`
`23:36.01`	`Pneumatus`	`and is basically a mini-compilation`
`23:36.29`	`Pneumatus`	`o wait no`
`23:36.45`	`Pneumatus`	`it isn't i'm thinking of his oUF layout, which is like a pile of separate addons`
`23:37.21`	`Pneumatus`	`it does make you replace PetActionBar and ShapeShiftBar textures tho`
`23:37.45`	`Axodious`	`just noticed the new CC beta, is premium still going to be part of it on release?`
`23:38.16`	`Adirelle`	`anyway, gotta get some sleep`
`23:38.18`	`Shadowed`	`Would be riots on the forums if not :>`
`23:38.21`	`Shadowed`	`later Adirelle thanks for the code`
`23:38.25`	`Adirelle`	`later`
`23:38.26`	`Adirelle`	`np`
`23:39.18`	`Pneumatus`	`Stanzilla: the advantage of rActionButtonStyler is, at least, it puts all the buttons in the right place without having to mess about with scaling :)`
`23:39.46`	`Stanzilla`	`yeah true`
`23:48.13`	`Pneumatus`	`bleh, i need bt4's scale sliders to have smaller increments`
`23:48.51`	`Axodious`	`you can manually enter the number in (idk if it rounds though)`
`23:49.15`	`Pneumatus`	`by editing the SV you mean?`
`23:49.21`	`Axodious`	`under the slider`
`23:49.25`	`Axodious`	`the number in the middle`
`23:49.27`	`Pneumatus`	`oh`
`23:49.28`	`Axodious`	`you can edit it`
`23:49.34`	`Pneumatus`	`i never realised they were editable :o`
`23:49.39`	`Pneumatus`	`thanks!`
`23:49.39`	`Axodious`	`i didnt for al ong time`
`23:49.41`	`Axodious`	`np lol`
`23:49.44`	`Shadowed`	`It's not very obvious`
`23:49.53`	`Shadowed`	`glares at nevcairiel`
`23:50.10`	`Pneumatus`	`bah, it gets rounded`
`23:50.30`	`Pneumatus`	`ill just scale the background instead`
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