IRC log for #wowace on 20090913

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00:01.35Repo10bartender4: 03CMTitan 06blizzardart 07master * 4.4.1-3-g56a743c Options (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added a Defaults option tab which can be used to reset a profile to a close approximation of Blizzard's UI.
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00:27.08Repo10smart-res: 03myrroddin * r116 / (3 files in 1 directory): SmartRes:
00:27.30Pneumatuswru comment
00:27.33Pneumatuscome on repo :<
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00:31.47Pneumatusfail, he committed packager metadata
00:31.55Pneumatusand commented libs
00:31.59Pneumatusfacepalms
00:32.03ausmaraAnyone here familiar with Rolling Stones?
00:32.24industrialwell they pick up speed but have to stop somewhere.
00:32.29syerenHIlarious ;p
00:33.04ArrowmasterPneumatus: who?
00:33.15Pneumatusmyrroddin in smart-res
00:33.25Pneumatusthat addon is so useful, its a shame the dev is a complete div
00:34.04Pneumatushe's been taking hints for smartres2 on the forums for god knows how long and nothing has manifested
00:34.15Pneumatusim tempted to write my own version, im fed up of waiting
00:36.04Arrowmaster....
00:36.12Arrowmasterhow mean should i be?
00:36.42Arrowmasterfacepalms
00:36.55ArrowmasterITS STILL FUCKING USING SHAREDMEDIALIB!
00:37.03Pneumatusyup
00:37.31Pneumatusinfact, i think i'll make rewriting that tomorrow's job
00:37.35Arrowmasterckknight: come on give me access to move projects between wowace and curseforge!
00:43.50Pneumatusis candybar3 preferred over libbars?
00:44.11Arrowmasterwhat is bigwigs using?
00:44.18Pneumatuscandybar3
00:44.23Arrowmasterprobably then
00:45.18Pneumatuswell, id guess more people have candybar installed than libbars at least
00:47.09Pneumatusalthough smartres2 at least looks like its had a couple of commits
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00:59.03Repo10smart-res: 03Arrowmaster * r117 / (3 files in 1 directory):
00:59.06RepoRemove damage done to toc caused by myrroddin overwritting his working copy with no-lib zips (DONT DO THAT!) and remove tsvn:template to force myrroddin to input a proper commit message in the future.
01:03.13Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth 04243 beta * r244 : Tagging as 243 beta
01:04.48Pneumatusazethoth really needs to learn that tags increase revision number as well :)
01:05.44Repo10faction-transfer-analyzer: 03Ackis 07master * 0.2Beta-4-g0e0e0e3 FactionTransferAnalyzer.lua: [+4 commits]
01:05.47Repo0e0e0e3: Fix a couple syntax issues.
01:05.51Repo6565b82: Add human -> undead, ne -> orc, ne -> undead.
01:05.54Repo6699f8c: Add comments for code stolen from Antiarc. :)
01:05.57Repo49382cd: Fix backdroup issues
01:15.19Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r606 Icecrown/Grand_Champions.lua: Remove UNIT_DIED
01:17.24PneumatusArrowmaster: $10 says myrroddin wont notice what you've done, he's renamed r116 and made it a release zip
01:19.22Arrowmasterso post a comment saying its broken
01:19.51Arrowmasterand call him an idiot or overwriting his working copy with downloaded zips
01:20.04Pneumatusand lern2tag
01:22.56Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r607 / (2 files in 2 directories): Death tweaks
01:23.00Pneumatusi guess this is what happens when someone takes over a project who doesn't have a clue
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01:46.22ShirikArrowmaster: what is tsvn:template?
01:46.29ShirikIs that some kind of property used by tsvn?
01:46.32Arrowmasteryes
01:46.36Shirikwhat's it do?
01:46.49Arrowmastersets the commit message to a default value
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01:46.53Shirikneat
01:47.00Arrowmasterno its stupid
01:47.06Arrowmasterwhen stupid people use it
01:47.21Shirikit's good when smart people use it
01:47.28Arrowmasternot really
01:47.31ShirikMy perforce configuration used a nice template
01:47.38Shirikwhich had a checklist in it
01:47.40Arrowmasterits not even a 'template' afaik
01:47.51Shiriklike before you commit, you must fill in an ID and then it had a little checlist like
01:47.58Arrowmasterits just set the commit message to this text and put the cursor at the end of it
01:48.13Shirik[ ] All design diagrams conform to code. [ ] Compiles successfully on all platforms and configurations. [ ] Interfaces match descriptions.
01:48.13Shiriketc.
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01:49.10Torhalif daxdax got ahold of it, he'd be in heaven.
01:49.22Arrowmaster?
01:49.28TorhalHis messages are always something along the lines of "A message" or "gsdjhsdfkjh"
01:49.44Shiriklol
01:49.47TorhalHe's using version control like an easy button.
01:50.03ShirikI get annoyed by the people that make messages like
01:50.05Shirik"Fixed a bug"
01:50.24TorhalThat's as awesome as "It's broke"
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01:59.29Pneumatusi can only hope the rewritten subscription system lets you see diffs in "new file" emails
02:00.25Pneumatusalthough, i expect that to come around the same time as DNF is launched
02:03.10XtekHeyo.
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02:04.50XtekDamnit, I ghosted myself.
02:05.52Pneumatushas cc4's auto-update checker thing broken?
02:06.08Pneumatusauto-self-update-cheker
02:06.11Pneumatusw/e
02:06.44XtekI think it runs whenever it checks for addon updates.
02:07.16Pneumatusjust on the auto-checks, or manual refreshes as well?
02:07.37XtekI believe it's just the auto-checks. You can manaually make the client check though.
02:07.45XtekThe check for update menu option was moved into Help.
02:07.48Pneumatusi know, i just did it and got .605
02:07.53XtekAh.
02:07.56Pneumatuswas that pushed in like the last hour?
02:08.57Pneumatustools -> patch notes should be renamed (and probably located)
02:09.07Pneumatusto Client Changelog, in help probably
02:09.30Pneumatus"Patch Notes" could mean game patchnotes, addon patch notes, or god knows what
02:09.34XtekAs far as when it was pushed I don't know... I thought it was pushed before I left the office last night.
02:09.51Pneumatusin which case, the auto-update checker thingy is broked
02:10.08Pneumatus(again)
02:10.57XtekThe best thing to do would to report a bug, whenever I mention it tot he dev he just tells me to tell people to report a bug. :P
02:11.00XtekEven suggestsions.
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02:11.58XtekHe lives on the curseforge project page for CC4.
02:12.23Xtekhttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-v4-windows/tickets/
02:13.09Pneumatusmy tickets usually get flagged as invalid even when they aren't
02:13.14Pneumatusso i've lost motivation for even bothering
02:13.35Pneumatusand the client has broken, pro
02:13.44Pneumatusit's posted my ticket, but the dialog is hung at submitting
02:14.52XtekI'll personally watch your tickets and make sure they're looked over.
02:17.19ShefkiNot saying this is necessarily the case but poorly written tickets tend to be marked as invalid more than well written ones.
02:19.25XtekYeah I don't know why the tickets are closed but if these are marked as invalid I'll be sure to ask why.
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02:20.05Pneumatushmm, i can't abandon my tickets on that project?
02:20.34Pneumatushah, hax, i can
02:22.02Pneumatuswell, the tickets i've posted that were flagged fixed but weren't actually fixed are more frustrating
02:22.10Pneumatusthat they took multiple tickets to actually fix
02:22.28ShefkiPneumatus: They may have been fixed internally and you just didn't see the build yet.
02:22.59PneumatusShefki: nope, dev copies showing with updates available was ticketed and flagged fixed and still broken in multiple releases
02:23.47Pneumatusit got reported initially in ticket 102, and remained broken after it was flagged as fixed when i filed ticket 311
02:24.03Pneumatusand there was probably a ticket inbetween as well
02:26.27theoddone33anyone know of a targeting mod?
02:26.31XtekDoesn't matter now, it's fixed and hopefully it won't happen again.
02:26.31Pneumatusplus, i just wish some of the horribly implemented (and sometimes broken) things about cf/wowace would get looked at
02:26.45theoddone33some way that's more accurate than tab targetting to ensure I get living bomb on every mob in a pull
02:26.55TorhalPneumatus: We're /headdesk buddies!
02:27.30Pneumatusi fail to see how implenting new things is productive when what's already available doesn't work right, or anywhere near as well as it could
02:28.07XtekWhere's the off switch?
02:29.32Pneumatusnot to mention the rumor that per-project forums are being worked on when they got the 2nd least votes in the latest poll, and will be useful for like a small handful of projects
02:30.38Pneumatusinfact, looking at the front page it's not a rumor, they are in
02:31.58Arrowmasterper-project forums exist
02:32.06Arrowmasteri just cant figure out how the fuck to do anything with them
02:32.25Arrowmasterno options anywhere for configuring or enabling or anything
02:32.40Shefkilmfao
02:32.47Shefki"the |cff is for Compact Font Format"
02:32.51Shefkilol
02:33.03ShefkiThe ff is the alpha channel, which they ignore anyway.
02:33.08Pneumatuslol
02:33.23Arrowmasterby including the alpha its a 32bit number
02:33.26PneumatusArrowmaster: you can probably see something us normal users can't
02:33.49ArrowmasterPneumatus: no i cant
02:33.49Arrowmasteri can see the per project forum is enabled on lib-st
02:33.55Arrowmasterbut i cant find any config for it
02:34.29Arrowmasterim also kinda mad that i cant see reward splits anymore for projects i dont manage
02:34.36ShefkiArrowmaster: Right.  It's just hilarious that someone came up with Compact Font Format.
02:34.52Arrowmasteri like to be able to check those when messing with who project managers are
02:35.11Arrowmasterbut now i cant even see the link
02:35.44ArrowmasterShefki: wheres that from?
02:35.51Shefkiwowace forums.
02:35.59ShefkiI replied already.
02:35.59Arrowmasterwhere
02:36.03ShefkiAddon Help
02:36.05Arrowmasteri want to see
02:36.11ShefkiThread about luatexts/pitbull4
02:36.25Pneumatushttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=288484#post288484
02:36.35Pneumatusi lol'd
02:37.14Pneumatus"And finally the |r is the end (|) and return (r) (I'm assuming)"
02:37.29Pneumatusyou assume too much, mr fyrye
02:37.43ShefkiJust means to return the color to the default color
02:37.53Pneumatusyeh, |r is reset
02:38.29Pneumatusby his logic |cff should be "end Compact Font Format"
02:38.33TorhalThat. Is. Fucking. Funny.
02:38.51ShefkiAmazing what I find goolging for wow and pitbull4
02:39.13ShefkiI do it mostly to find peoples "reviews" on blogs.
02:39.26TorhalArrowmaster: Shit, they did take away the ability to see reward splits. Guess I won't be transferring anyone's projects to someone else.
02:39.38ShefkiBecause half the time they go "It has this really annoying bug, wish it didn't do this"
02:39.45PneumatusArrowmaster: i voted up your ticket that's like 6 months old asking to repo hook block people committing curse metadata
02:39.46ShefkiAnd it's something that's easily fixed and nobody bothered to report it.
02:39.51Pneumatusas i was gonna post one myself
02:39.54ArrowmasterTorhal: if ckknight was actually around anymore i would bug him about it but hes not
02:40.12ShefkiArrowmaster: I think he's been traveling a lot.
02:40.14Pneumatusmaybe he's working on the lap dances
02:40.21TorhalArrowmaster: Yah...I dunno what's been up lately.
02:40.27ShefkiI know last weekend he was at DragonCon
02:40.28Arrowmasterhes not working on the site anymore, he is working on some other project now
02:40.48Pneumatusnot sc2maps?
02:40.53ckknightI've been busy
02:40.55Shefkisc2maps is dead.
02:40.58ckknightworking on another project
02:41.01ckknightno it's not, Shefki
02:41.20ShefkiYou seemed to think it was last I heard.
02:41.25ckknightit's not
02:41.35ckknightit's just not focused as a user content delivery site
02:41.39ckknightwhich is easier to manage, actually
02:42.43Pneumatusare you gonna be coming back to work on wowace/cf ever?
02:42.51ckknightand I did some bugfixing the other day on wowace
02:43.44Arrowmasterso whats the deal with the reward splits not view or editable by moderators? and why does lib-st have a per project forum?
02:44.08Pneumatusand why hasn't the subscription system been revamped :<
02:44.30ckknightthere was a serious issue before where moderators were abusing the reward points splits
02:44.32ckknightsome people got angry
02:44.42Arrowmasterthey were?
02:44.46ckknightso simple moderators can no longer change those.
02:45.13ShefkiSpeaking of wowace is there some particular reason why I have beta4 of PB4 released, but it's packaging alphas as beta3-...
02:45.14ckknightPneumatus: because it's hard and it'll take me a while, time I do not currently have, as I am working on the new project I previously mentioned
02:45.25ckknightShefki: not sure about that.
02:46.01Pneumatusckknight: but someone has time to develop per-project forums which was like the 2nd least voted in the poll
02:46.20ckknightI actually had done that like 2 months ago
02:46.21Pneumatuswhy couldn't they have used that time developing something people actually want :<
02:46.27ckknightKaelten wanted a forum on his project
02:46.29ckknightso I enabled it
02:46.43Arrowmasterthen wheres the config for it?
02:46.48Arrowmasteri cant find anything
02:46.53ckknightright
02:47.06ckknightyou can only create forums if you have special priviledges
02:47.10ckknightsince it's not technically released
02:47.17Arrowmasterthen why does lib-st have one?
02:47.24ckknightKaelten just wanted a forum for one of his projects
02:47.33ckknightbecause that guy is a tester, Arrowmaster
02:47.39Arrowmasterhe is?
02:47.48ckknightyes, Kaelten decided he should be
02:48.07Arrowmasteri dont even know why that library is on wowace....
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02:51.03ShefkiWhat's libst?
02:53.10Arrowmastera shitty scrolling tooltip library that is the only fucking library on wowace that breaks my beautiful unified library naming scheme
02:54.16ShefkiArrowmaster: lol
02:54.23Shefkimakes lib-piss-off-arrowmaster
02:54.37ckknightapproves Shefki's new library
02:54.39Arrowmasteri havent looked but im guessing libqtip is better in every way
02:54.39ckknightsounds useful
02:55.31ShefkiStep 1) Have it include a replacement for LibStub that's of course entirely incomptable with Arrowmaster's naming scheme.
02:55.54ShefkiStep 2) Switch high profile libraries over to using said replacement.
02:55.58ShefkiStep 3) ...
02:56.02ShefkiStep 4) Profit.
02:57.35ckknightlulz.
02:57.44Shefkihttp://www.wowcryptlords.com/WoW-News/best-5-wow-raiding-ui.html
02:57.46ShefkiInteresting.
02:57.49Shefki3/5 use PB4.
02:57.55Shadowedarcana what naming scheme
02:57.57Shadowedwhat
02:57.59ShadowedArrowmaster
02:57.59robotuschboo
02:58.01ShefkiAnd one of them might actually use PB4 anyway I haven't bothered to find it.
02:58.07robotuschaguf > *
02:58.07robotusch:(
02:58.14ShadowedagUF is terrible
02:58.20Shadowedand people really should not be using it at this point
02:58.25robotuschboo
02:58.34robotuschthen andreas will hit me :(
02:58.34ShadowedIf you like the general look/config of agUF something like SUF is better
02:58.57ArrowmasterShadowed: you can diaf too since you break the naming scheme, sorta, you use the old scheme
02:59.12ShadowedArrowmaster I'm trying to figure out wtf naming scheme you are talking about
02:59.14ShefkiArrowmaster: Where's the docs for this scheme?
02:59.17robotuschhttp://sarth3d.dk/WoWScrnShot_090609_162615.jpg :(
02:59.43Shadowedrobotusch: agUF isn't really maintained, nevcairiel does some fixes to it but it has a lot of bugs like people joining in combat and such
02:59.44Shefkirobotusch: So did the two druids pull it off?
02:59.50robotuschNo
02:59.56robotuschgot him the next try anyway
03:00.04Shefki:(
03:00.13robotuschsome trigger happy shaman pulled heroism in the middle of p1
03:00.29ShadowedI think nev also has a oUF layout that looks like agUF too
03:00.38ShadowedWhy is a raiding UI using Afflicted :<
03:01.05ArrowmasterShefki: it was in a post on the forums by tekkub but im guessing its buried perty deep now since it used to be stickied and probably isnt anymore
03:01.18ShadowedIsn't this just the uh
03:01.22Shefkiok 3/5, the other two use oUF
03:01.40ShadowedFormat libraries as <lib name>/toc file and <lib name>/<lib name>/<lib>
03:01.50Arrowmasterno
03:01.57robotuscha bit annoying that whoever made that post, decided to link directly to the image files hosted on the hosting sites
03:02.05ShefkiShadowed: Caith doesn't really raid, he PVPs.
03:02.13ShefkiA lot of people use his stuff to raid anyway.
03:02.22Shadowedstupid compilations
03:02.49ShefkiWhat's wrong with compliations?
03:02.49Arrowmastercaithui still uses instant health.....
03:02.49robotusch.. and direct download links too, wtf
03:03.27ShadowedCompilations are evil because you have no control over the version used, actually to be technical compilations generally break the licenses on everything too
03:03.56Shadowedin fact Caith UI is using Afflicted2 which is way out of date
03:03.59ShefkiArrowmaster: *shrug* no idea if it does it's not doing anything since he's using PB4 and we have no support for it.
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03:04.16Arrowmasterinstant health doesnt need addons to support it
03:04.21ShadowedInstant Health is the one that hooks UnitHealth
03:04.26Shadowedand manually fires UNIT_HEALTH
03:04.56Arrowmasterand unregisters and reregisters events ON EVERY FUCKING EVENT
03:05.26Arrowmasternot every but every call to CLEU and UNIT_HEALTH
03:06.44Arrowmasternevcairiel: we have to remove the /ace3 slash command from the ace3 standalone now, the install instructions for one of these craptacular compilations says to use it
03:06.51ShefkiAs far as old versions, Caith usually ends up modifying the addons in some way.
03:08.08Shadowedhaha Arrowmaster
03:08.35Shadowedwhats the /ace3 command even do
03:08.53ShefkiBrings up AceConfig dialog with a dropdowwn to switch between addons.
03:09.34Arrowmasterment for debugging only
03:09.47Arrowmastersince it doesnt show the configs properly
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03:10.11ShefkiI've never used it really myself, I'd seeen it before though.
03:10.33Shadowedthat and it doesn't work on anything that delays loading config!
03:11.15ShefkiWell you guys can scoff at the compliations but an awful lot of people use them.
03:11.22Arrowmasterwhen the blizzard addon panel was first added it would show addons multiple times in the dropdown if the addon used more than a single panel on the config panel
03:11.23ShadowedYes and I hate a lot of people
03:11.24Shadowed:>
03:11.55Arrowmastereverybody starts at hated with me and must grind to unfriendly
03:12.01Shadowed^
03:12.07ShadowedAnd then grind 2 years to neutral
03:12.13ShefkiThat's ok Shadowed, the feeling is probably mutual for a lot of people with you.
03:12.16Arrowmasteri didnt say there was a neutral
03:12.19ShadowedExcellent
03:12.24TorhalShefki: I don't scoff at compilations - the real ones. I do scoff at the "Look wut I made!" shit that is never updated, and yet somehow people are still trying to use three years later.
03:12.29Shadowed^
03:12.33ShadowedOr people like Mazzle
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03:12.46Arrowmastermazzle made an ok compilation, but he was a fucking dick
03:12.56ShadowedThere are very few actual compilations, most of them are just hey look at me, I can zip my entire addon folder and upload it
03:12.57ShadowedI R GUD
03:13.04TorhalShadowed: Exactly
03:13.13ShefkiTorhal: Well I do believe all of that stuff is updated.  You can argue about  if some stuff should be more updated.  Caith tends to cycle between lots of updates and hardly any.
03:13.31ShadowedMazzle was just an idiot in general
03:13.32ShefkiI don't really know much about most of them.
03:13.34Arrowmasterif a compilation requires extracting saved vars or changing profiles in each addon after you install it then its crap
03:13.38Shadowedwhining for donations when half of what he used is others work etc
03:13.53Shadowedmazzlegasm
03:14.11ArrowmasterShefki: even the author of instant health said not to use it anymore i think, yet caith ui has it
03:14.11TorhalShefki: I don't know anything about Caith...just saying, in general, a compilation is usually nothing more than a slapped-together hodgepodge of utter shit.
03:14.25Shadowed^
03:14.36ShefkiArrowmaster: Tell him, he's usually pretty responsive to input.
03:14.44Arrowmasterwhy should i
03:14.48ShefkiI ask him to update stuff and he does.  I don't use it.  But I know a lot of people do.
03:14.51Arrowmasteri dont use his compilation
03:14.55ShefkiThen why should you care what he packs?
03:15.15Arrowmasteri dont, but ill still complain
03:15.34ShadowedThe only real compilations are like Mazzle and nUI
03:15.53Shadowed... that's about it that I can think of that are real compilations not just a bunch of addons and some SVs
03:16.05Arrowmastertheres a few others but not many
03:16.10Arrowmastermaybe 6 total
03:18.01ShefkiCompilations save me the hassle of dealing with a lot of people I'd rather not.  It's pretty rare that someone with a compliation comes to me.  They  usually go to the compliation author.
03:18.24Arrowmasteryou dont know how lucky you are then
03:18.54Arrowmasterwhen i maintained cartographer2, EVERYBODY FUCKING CAME TO ME FIRST
03:19.15Arrowmasterfor every fucking cartographer plugin too
03:19.20ShefkiIt's somewhat amusing when I make a change that's imcopatible with old versions and I go to look at say Caith's comment page and there's a shit ton of people wondering why the PB4 update broke their config.
03:19.46Pneumatusespecially the profession ones rite
03:20.18Shefkibeta5 is gonna be a blast...  The show when settings for the raid ui changed and I pretty much rewrote the aura borders.
03:21.13Shadowedthis is why I write upgrade code and just eventually phase it out
03:21.18Shadowedsince listening to people complain is annoying
03:22.30ShefkiCan't really write upgrade code for stuff where people need to make new choices they didn't have before.
03:23.03ShefkiUnless of course you have the ability to read peoples minds with code.  In which case I think you're wasting your time writing addons and might want to go into the financial industry.
03:23.33ShadowedThat's where figuring out basic defaults is helpful :>
03:25.15ShefkiIt's certainly much easier when you force everyone to design their UI around how you want things.
03:25.31ShadowedEh not really
03:26.15ShadowedPeople are actually not that creative when it comes to interfaces, there's a relatively basic setup that most follow and even the more unique setups don't deviate from that template
03:26.25Shadowedthe more obscure ones like separating portraits and such are going to tweak everything regardless
03:27.02ShefkiIf you think separating portraits is obscure.  lol
03:27.10Shadowedthat was more of a random example
03:27.27ShadowedAs I don't care for/pay attention to some of the randomass things people come up with
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03:33.46Pneumatusdons his flame-proof jacket.
03:39.02Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r49 / (6 files in 2 directories): - Alpha version of the new tradeskill UI.
03:50.54DarkAudithow very odd... I only had a couple of Northrend flight points on a 70 DK... did a faction change and now they're all open
03:52.25Pneumatusfaction change just gives you flight points appropriate to your level
03:53.03Pneumatusbut at 70 getting them all seems overkill :o
03:53.36Pneumatusits probably easier to just give you every flightpath at 70+, every outlands one at 60+ etc
03:56.00ShadowedIf I recall it's
03:56.20robotuschI just want the darn faction change in the EU :(
03:56.21Shadowed<60 = a few old world flight paths open, 70 - all old world + outlands, 80 - everything
03:56.56robotuschlooks like my alliance guild is dead anyway, and since Fisker plays horde on the same realm, I should go bug him
03:57.28ShefkiYou want to play with Fisker, wow you must be looking for abuse.
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03:57.52robotuschplayed with him before anyway
03:58.06robotuschhad rank 1 Lesser Heal assigned to him
03:58.07Pneumatusrolling a new char takes like 4 days /played to 80
03:58.14Pneumatusi can't see why anyone would bother faction changing :P
03:58.25robotuschsince I can't be bothered regearing it
03:58.43ShefkiWe've actually had several horde join our alliance guild.
03:58.53PneumatusShefki: you must be good :o
03:59.00Pneumatusworld top 100 or so?
03:59.05ShefkiNo
03:59.08robotuschhttp://www.wowhead.com/?profile=eu.ravencrest.robodin <- cover your eyes until the 3D thingie is finished loading
03:59.20Pneumatusrl friends of people in your guild?
03:59.27ShefkiNope.
03:59.45Pneumatus:o
03:59.50Pneumatusyou must advertise well then
03:59.55robotuschsome of the guys in the first Paragon Anub kill were rerollers from my realm
04:00.09Pneumatuswe struggle to get apps regardless :<
04:00.25DarkAuditbetter get my hearth set to Dalaran before they realize it's a bug
04:01.25Pneumatuswhere's it set to DarkAudit?
04:01.29PneumatusIF or something?
04:01.40DarkAuditStormwind inn
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04:01.50ShefkiLet's see we've had 4 faction changers.  From what I'm being told we've turned down some.
04:01.51Pneumatushearth in and drop DnD :>
04:02.03DarkAuditit gets reset to the faction capital on a change
04:02.22Pneumatusoic
04:02.33Shefki3 more declined just today apparently.
04:02.34Pneumatusthought you meant it stayed bound to your old city
04:02.55DarkAuditno... it was the scryer in in Shattrath when I was an orc
04:03.10Pneumatuswe've actually got 2 decent apps open, xrealming from a spanish server
04:03.24Pneumatusbut usually apps are few and far between and mostly shit
04:04.10Pneumatusto quote from a recent app thread - Annihilater, Retribution Paladin - UNSUCCESSFUL
04:04.13Pneumatus"HOW YOU PLAY YOUR CHARACTERi can play agresiv an i can play wise its all up to the fight i use all my abilitys in any fight"
04:04.33theoddone33hopefully including holy wrath
04:13.26Xtekoh no
04:13.33XtekWoWHead is using video ads with sound now?
04:15.26theoddone33there are ads on the internet?
04:15.41Arrowmasterwowhead has ads?
04:15.44robotuschprobably a baddie, there's a thread on the Site Feedback board on how to report it
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04:51.11steevShefki: what kinda character do you play?
04:53.43Shefkisteev: Resto druid
04:54.57steevShefki: alliance?
04:55.17steevwere you just in a strand of the ancients?
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04:55.57steevthat the alliance won
04:56.13Shefkisteev: I was in a strand yeah.
04:56.34ShefkiAnd yeah we won.
04:56.41steevemberstorm battlegroup?
04:56.45ShefkiYes.
04:56.49steevi killed you :-P
04:57.10ShefkiRogue?
04:57.12steevdk
04:57.15steevnamed solene
04:57.20ShefkiAhh
04:57.41steevi was like, wait, that name looks familiar....
04:58.19ShefkiSince I'm the only Shefki it was definately me.
04:58.39steevhehe
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04:58.58steevthats my first strand loss :(
04:59.37steevof course, i've only been in 10
04:59.51Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r210 version: GatherMate_Data: Weekly update
04:59.57Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.63 * r211 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update
05:02.16steevwell thats cool, now i know someone in the battlegroup :-P
05:02.18Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r50 / (2 files in 1 directory):
05:02.21Repo- Updates to the new UI to support better integration with default Blizz frames (should now behave very close to the original window).
05:02.24Repo- Categories now include inventory slots, and have been updated with a more robust UI for finding the filter you want.
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05:21.13Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r51 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Fix for bug in window positioning code.
05:21.16Repo- Scroll bar for extremely long filter lists now exists.
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06:57.50ShefkiRegisterEvent
06:57.55Shefki!api RegisterEvent
06:57.56lua_botFound 2 possible results for 'RegisterEvent': Frame:RegisterEvent, Frame:UnregisterEvent
06:58.08Shefki!api Frame:RegisterEvent
06:58.08lua_botFrame:RegisterEvent: Registers the frame for an [[docs/events|event]] (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/RegisterEvent)
07:02.46Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r52 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Support for the search field & 'have materials' button.
07:02.49Repo- Rank bar support.
07:02.52Repo- Assorted bugfixes and tweaks to the dialog.
07:06.07TorhalShefki: Pitbull4 For Dummies. Discuss.
07:06.09Torhal:D
07:08.19industrialoUF \o/
07:08.35industrialbut thats for smarties :p
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07:44.42orionshockanyone know how to change the minimum frame alpha for out of range in agUF?
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08:00.25Adirelle~seen shadowed
08:00.27purlshadowed is currently on #wowuidev (2d 8h 22m 58s) #wowace (2d 8h 22m 58s). Has said a total of 94 messages. Is idling for 4h 4m 6s, last said: '<60 = a few old world flight paths open, 70 - all old world + outlands, 80 - everything'.
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08:03.15Arrowmasterorionshock: issecurevariable() might work, but if the frame is unnamed and you can only get access to it from function returns then that might just end up giving you your own addons name
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08:15.31orionshockit does
08:17.18orionshockhooking the frame metatable RegisterEvent function dosn't work...
08:17.24orionshockprolly b/c it's loaded late...
08:24.00Vilkkuhmm, can you actually use n++; in lua or do you have to use n = n + 1; ?
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08:24.34sztanpetno n++ neither ++n
08:25.08Vilkkuthat's what I was thinking =(
08:25.25sztanpetits a good thing
08:30.53Arrowmasteri dont see a need for n++ syntax at all
08:31.03Arrowmastern =+ 1, maybe
08:31.37steevwoo, got t7 gloves on my orc dk
08:31.44steevmoving up in the world!
08:32.15steevand yes, ill admit that i got carried through the os 10
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08:34.23orionshockalot did, don't feel bad
08:40.35orionshockfail, i roll a 1 agenst a hunter rolling 9...
08:40.47orionshockRNG hates me
08:41.25steevouch
08:41.34steevi think i rolled a 36 against a 27
08:48.40orionshockanyone recognise the prefix GYS for addons?
08:49.09Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2470 / (9 files in 3 directories): Worked a bit on ticket 804, refining the alchemy database.
08:49.12RepoRemoved the mob drop flags from the recipes that drop in the new ToC raid, in the tailoring and blacksmithing databases.
08:49.15RepoFixed the acquire data for all of the new jewelcrafting designs that were added in 3.2.
08:49.18RepoAdded a couple vendors that were missing from the database.
08:50.49Fiskeri won my ilevel 245 pvp belt on a 7 roll :D
08:50.55Fiskerman that rogue was pissed
08:52.35orionshockhehe rolled a 42
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09:10.54Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2471 / (4 files in 2 directories):
09:10.57RepoAdded back the mob drop flags for the recipes from the ToC raid, don't remove em.
09:11.02Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta3-89-g597373d Options/Units.lua: [+1 commit] Move the include player checkbox to the end of the General tab under
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09:35.25sb|work@describe mrtrader
09:35.27Reposb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mrtrader/. MrTrader. A lightweight addon that does something.
09:35.30sb|work:/
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09:46.18asmodaiheh
09:46.30asmodaithey built in talent trees in league of legends
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09:56.15Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r334 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Fix learning skill level for a few inscription combines
09:56.20Repo- Fix the problem where a recipe is shown as both "known by" and "will be learnable by" for the same toon when combine has an incorrect skill level.
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09:57.26Repo10smart-res: 03myrroddin 046.05 * r118 : SmartRes: 6.05
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10:02.33ShirikThat worked well Arrowmaster
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10:11.28Repo10wishlist: 03XIU * r53 / (5 files in 1 directory): Wishlist:
10:11.32Repo- Added new emblems
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10:32.49asmodaiWell, the game in itself is quite ok, but the lobby UI and so is a pain in the ass. Which is the AIR part I think.
10:35.03asmodaiSo in addition to character specific abilities you have 2 generic abilities which you can customize. Everybody can get these, although some require unlocks.
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10:35.24asmodaiThe buying of items now has a suggested items list at the top.
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10:50.08Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r335 / (10 files in 1 directory):
10:50.12Repo- Add definitons to handle recipes that drop for only one faction (ToC recipes)
10:50.14Repo- Add ToC recipe drops
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11:13.09Repo10fu-bar_addon-spam-fu: 03yoshimo * r84 AddonSpamFu.lua: hide semi-known prefixes
11:14.50Repo10wowequip: 03grum 07master * Beta1.1-8-gd4d95db / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
11:14.54Repod4d95db: No more nil-errors for imported guildless people.
11:14.57Repo37293a1: Solid Dragon's Eye is 51 Stamina.
11:20.31HjalteSo let's say I found some zip files on the internet and put them all in this folder on my computer. Some of them are divided into several parts. Would there be a way to unpack them all and then delete the original zip file automatically?
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11:22.22vhaarryou mean without writing a shell script?
11:22.58Graveeatermanually is always a solution
11:23.43HjalteUh, scripts are fine, as long as I don't write them. (please don't hurt me)
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11:29.26Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2273 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: Fixed minor navigation glitch
11:29.27Graveeaterthe multipart zip stuff might be little tricky
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11:31.20steevdepends on how they are multipart
11:31.32steevand what OS
11:31.42Graveeaterand what unzipper ^^
11:31.54steev*nix i'd just do unzip *.zip
11:32.11Graveeaterman unzip says, that unzip does not support multipart :(
11:32.27steevignore what unzip's man page says
11:32.36steevor use unrar
11:34.12Graveeaternot sure whether that would work as intended... is unzip/unrar smart enough to merge the different parts from one file?
11:35.45steev... thats kind of the point of them
11:36.22steevanywho, i shoulda been in bed almost 7 hours ago, so time to go now
11:36.29Graveeater^^
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12:15.03mitchnull~wowalert
12:15.04purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
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12:43.06Repo10libbagutils-1-0: 03mikk * r17 LibBagUtils-1.0/LibBagUtils-1.0.lua:
12:43.09Repo- Add wrapper function for GetContainerNumFreeSlots() that actually Does The Right Thing for the keyring. (Actually return the number of free slots, not just 0. And returns the right family!)
12:43.12Repo- Add GetContainerFamily() that returns the bag family (AND the right family for the keyring)
12:43.15RepoAnd they say bag handling is straightforward, sheesh...
12:43.37Fiskerslaps mitchnull around a bit with a large trout
12:44.57Megalonfiskers a large trout around a bit with mitchnull
12:45.06Fiskerslaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout
12:45.14Fiskerhow's the sc2 beta coming?
12:46.00Repo10libbagutils-1-0: 03mikk 041.0.17 * r18 : Tagging as 1.0.17
12:46.05Megalonready to roll out
12:46.59Fiskeri'm ready to roll out
12:48.09Repo10baggins: 03mikk * r433 Baggins_ItemOps.lua:
12:48.20Repo- Display correct number of free slots in keyring (pull in updated LibBagUtils)
12:48.20Repo- Bag compressor will now also put stray keys into the keyring (courtesy of LibBagUtils)
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13:18.59Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2274 / (13 files in 7 directories): - Fixed Alliance/Horde Trial of the Crusade rings
13:18.59Repo- Added some missing Misc PvP items
13:19.04Repo- Corrected some items and removed an unreleased enchant
13:19.26sb|workerr hm
13:19.42sb|workis tribute cloaks >=45 or = 50?
13:19.52sb|work(and weapons >=25 or >=45?)
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13:22.20sb|workokay, should be weapon >=25 and cloak >=45, right? :p
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13:23.36Fiskerhuh?
13:23.51sb|worktribute chest rewards
13:24.05Fisker"45, 50, 25"?
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13:32.42Pneumatuscloaks are 50
13:32.44Pneumatusafaik
13:35.40Pneumatuscloaks at 50, and mount at 50 immortal
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13:39.18Fiskeraaah
13:39.20Fiskernow i get it :P
13:40.13Pneumatuswe definatly had a weapon on 10man >25 as well
13:40.23Pneumatusno idea what extra the 45 chest has
13:40.30Pneumatusperhaps a 2nd weapon, or more trophies
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14:07.10Repo10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r96 PT3-RaidLoot.lua: - Re-mine RaidLoot.Trial of the Crusader
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14:09.13Pneumatusanyone able to confirm/deny if Icy Prisms no longer drop epic gems?
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14:11.46CrazyBennyit does
14:11.50CrazyBennygot one today
14:15.48Pneumatusfair enough, maybe i've just been unlucky recently :<
14:16.09Pneumatusor i was exceptionally lucky for the first few days i made them and got epic gems every day
14:18.02quiesenseyou were exceptionally lucky
14:19.11Mikkthat is EXCEPTIONALLY lucky
14:19.30Mikkshould expect maybe 1 every 10 days or so
14:19.35Mikkhasn't done the exact math
14:20.05Pneumatusthat would explain why i've not had one in the last few weeks then
14:36.12Xinhuanmikk any updates?
14:37.00Mikknot yet
14:39.19Funkeh`google is seriously fucking failing in the anti phishing area
14:39.43Funkeh`they are either taking too long or are too stupid to validate a real phish
14:40.01Funkeh`even microsoft are faster
14:40.50Funkeh`firefox needs to switch to something non-shit
14:42.02sztanpeti have run into more google false positives then fish sites, and they all stayed like that for weeks
14:42.07sztanpetphish
14:42.53quiesensefishies~
14:43.07Funkeh`fun
14:43.13Funkeh`I'm tempted to go back to ie
14:43.21Funkeh`the smartscreen filter in 8 fucking rocks
14:43.35Funkeh`I'm too addicted to opera at the moment though
14:44.08sztanpetim on chrome, and dont know what the smartscreen filters are
14:44.50Funkeh`<PROTECTED>
14:44.56Funkeh`I have Iron isntalled though
14:45.02Funkeh`which is based on chomium
14:45.06Funkeh`chromium
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15:08.33StanzillaFunkeh`: opera <3
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15:26.16Mikki just run my browser in a sandboxie sandbox
15:27.01nevcairieli just block ads and flash :P
15:27.29nevcairieli'm also on linux, its pretty rare that any trojan i might even actually download would work for me
15:29.06quiesensecommon sense™ seems to work fine
15:29.21nevcairielyou never know with flash exploits, its just good to block it :)
15:30.02nevcairielits also kinda funny to see which pages have some miniature invisible flash widgets for whatever reason
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15:30.47quiesensethe whole, block everything that's anything approach is overrated
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15:35.32quiesenseeven when I was using windows with just firebird and no fancy blocking and no resident antivirus
15:36.00nevcairielI use flash and cookie blockers, privacy is nice :P
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15:38.32quiesenseI don't remember the last thing that was capable of a) working on an up to date system plus b) work without any user interaction
15:38.59quiesenseplus it would have to also be coupled with a compromised web server or a cross site vulnerability
15:39.19nevcairielsome flash exploits have a few hours of a) and b)
15:39.30nevcairielwell a few hours of a) and endless fun of b)
15:39.52quiesenseoverlapping with c
15:40.12nevcairielof course, but loads of pages use ad providers that no-one knows how secure they are
15:40.37nevcairieli'm in it for privacy equally as for security
15:40.44nevcairieli don't want loads of cookies that tell my history
15:40.49quiesensejust depends how many hoops people want to have to jump through
15:41.15quiesensecookies can be used for convenience effects
15:41.28nevcairielsure, i selectively enable them if a page wants it, and i trust it
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15:42.20nevcairielits mostly to block those iframe ad pages that every other page loads and puts a cookie on you
15:43.31nevcairielyou know, its really boring watching kde compiling
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15:43.49quiesensenever done that
15:44.03quiesenseworst I've done is X or a kernel
15:44.10quiesenseback in the old days
15:44.11nevcairielopenoffice is fun too
15:44.21quiesensewhen kernels were most commonly monolithic
15:44.36quiesenseand when X wasn't default
15:44.59quiesenseand installers were all text without so much as curses
15:45.11nevcairieli use gentoo, it doesnt even have a text installer :P
15:45.19quiesenseI don't bother these days
15:45.53quiesenseunless <application> has no appropriate binaries/packages
15:46.02quiesensetakes too much effort/time
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15:46.18nevcairielnot so much effort with gentoo, just time for the compiling
15:46.21quiesenserather, I probably wouldn't have bothered back then either
15:46.32quiesenseexcept that it was required
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16:01.08Repo10craftdb: 03Trellmor * r12 / (2 files in 1 directory):
16:01.11Repo-Fixed: If we don't get a TradeSkill Link or ID we return befor encountering an error
16:01.14RepoBumping version to 0.1.4
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16:31.51Repo10titleswapper: 03Netrox * r22 Core.lua:
16:31.54Reponow only registering event for namechanges if name is changed and announcement is enabled and after printing message unregister it again.
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16:32.55pompy1vhaarr: ping
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16:44.01Pneumatuspompy: if its bigwigs you might wanna #bigwigs or he might :angryface:
16:46.40Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r338 / (4 files in 4 directories): Updated zhTW.
16:46.43RepoFixed target frame showing talents sometimes when this was disabled. And fixed focus frame showing them when it had no business doing so.
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16:53.22pompyPneumatus: lol nah its not
16:53.25Repo10fu-bar_addon-spam-fu: 03Pneumatus * r85 AddonSpamFu.lua: Typofix
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17:18.26Repo10postal: 03mikk * r264 Modules/Select.lua:
17:18.26RepoSelect: Change the "Please delete some mail..." standard Blizzard message into a more useful one that:
17:18.26Repo1. Shows you how MANY mails remain after the current 50
17:18.29Repo2. Tells you how long (in seconds) it is until you get to refresh for more
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17:54.24Mikkkicks repo
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17:57.55Groktarhears Mikk is a crazy cat lady irl
17:57.58Groktarconfirm/deny
18:00.01Mikkhears he got handed op recently iirc (in-irc)
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18:00.48Groktargrovels before the crazy cat Mikk like a subservient peon
18:01.04Mikksigh can't win
18:01.23Groktarhugs Mikk
18:01.27Mikkpurrs
18:01.29Mikkerr i mean
18:09.00ShadowedAdirelle: Yea the reason the GetHealAmount numbers are off is mostly due to 0.001 second differences in time
18:10.06ShadowedWhich is going to be a tad annoying to sort out
18:10.53AdirelleShadowed: with the actual code, you do a math.floor(secondsLeft / tickInterval) when bandSeconds >= secondsLeft which always returns 0 when secondsLeft < tickInterval
18:11.04Adirellethat's why it eats the final tack
18:11.05ShadowedYea I saw that bug
18:11.15Adirelles/tack/tick/
18:11.37ShadowedIt needs to add an extra tick, but you can still have slight timing issues like
18:12.20Shadowedin SUF I request the next 4 seconds, pending on when the actual Rejuvenation heal ticks I can get cases where it's ticking in the next 3.045 seconds.
18:12.42ShadowedBecause the aura is fading in the 4 time band it does math.floor(3.045 / 3) + 1 (+1 to account for final tick), thinks it'll tick twice
18:12.45Shadowedwhen in reality it's not going to
18:13.20Shadowedwhen in realityh that number should be more like 3 or 2.90
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18:15.44AdirelleI'm wondering if adding something like 0.05 to the current time could cover these issues
18:15.52Adirelle(or maybe simply the lag...)
18:16.11ShadowedIt wouldn't, I just tried subtracting 0.10s from the end time and ended with a case where it had 3.0019 seconds left :<
18:16.24Shadowedprobably have to do some small rounding too I guess
18:17.13Adirelleyes
18:18.01Shadowedmmm
18:18.32ShadowedIt's probably not going to be perfect in high lag either, but there isn't much I can't do about that. Might need to make it more complex ugh
18:20.24Adirellewould you round down secondsLeft or endTime ?
18:20.33ShadowedsecondsLeft
18:21.41Shadowedsomething like local secondsLeft = math.floor(((endTime - GetTime() - 0.1) * 100) + 0.5) / 100
18:22.19ShadowedThat seems to work
18:25.10Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * b2.2-1-g6b15ae1 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed tick calculations causing ghost ticks as well as the final tick to be missed for channels and heal over time
18:25.20ShadowedAdirelle ^ should fix it
18:25.23Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r73 / (3 files in 2 directories): Broker_RecZone:
18:25.26Repo- Zone updates
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18:26.56ShadowedOr not, what an error issue, I don't think I can even round the number just have to flat out chop off anything past the 2nd decimal
18:27.49Shadoweds/error/annoying/
18:28.23Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * b2.2-2-gaf2ecdb LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Or not, changed it to remove anything after the 2nd decimal place when calculating seconds left rather than rounding it
18:29.22AdirelleShadowed: updating
18:29.28Adirellegonna test later though
18:30.03Adirelledamn it, CC3 fails to download it
18:31.28Fiskervhaarr my friend
18:33.30sb|workPneumatus: ty
18:35.10Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2472 / (4 files in 3 directories):
18:35.13RepoRemoved an entry in the trainer database that was really a mob, but didn't need to be in there anyway.
18:35.15RepoWorked on ticket 804, refining the alchemy database, a little more.
18:35.19RepoFixed "Flask of Mighty Restoration" Acquire data.
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18:35.39|Dessa|Zeksie: ping
18:37.19Zeksiehey
18:37.36Daemonahttp://www.youtube.com/v/wpn9sxtbY-g
18:38.48Daemonawtb with ingame music :X
18:38.49|Dessa|Zeksie: well, having the issue with auras in blessings manager still, but i have some more infos now, if i choose devotion aura, im getting any aura in one "cycle", after that, only fire resistance and crusader
18:39.26|Dessa|uh, choose, as in buffing it normally, that was not clear
18:39.28Zeksiewierd. still not getting it to happen again.
18:39.58|Dessa|and when i buff retribution, i get all but the devotion aura in one cycle
18:40.19Zeksiebusy with raid atm. not able to look. will check later
18:40.25|Dessa|ok
18:42.04Fisker[Ammo]
18:42.13Fiskercan you have have several invite keywords?
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18:44.30RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/guild-manage/. Guild Manage. ZloVreD (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
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18:52.36Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r220 core.lua: fix new profile error
18:53.05Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou 043.2 beta16 * r221 : tag as 3.2 beta 16
18:57.37Mikkhttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=288550   <- What EasyMenu should have been?
19:04.59[SW]Dodgei want to disable an addon if char is not a druid, but the DisableAddOn() info page on wowwike states "The first time an addon is disabled it will be disabled for all characters on that realm." is there a way to only disbale for the current character?
19:05.26[SW]Dodgethe note also contains "Every subsequent time it will enabled/disabled per character." does that mean i just need to call disableaddon twice? :o
19:05.38nevcairielyou could just return on the first line
19:05.43nevcairielthats what most people do
19:05.43Pneumatus!api DisableAddOn
19:05.44lua_botDisableAddOn: Marks an addon as disabled (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/DisableAddOn)
19:06.16Pneumatusbut yeh, i'd just return at the top of the file if it wasn't a druid
19:06.20Pneumatusrather than disable per-char
19:06.36[SW]Dodgeok
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19:06.47[SW]Dodgethen i'll just return without disabling :)
19:07.10Pneumatususers are likely to get weirded out if their tick goes grey, unless they know what's going on
19:07.37Pneumatushowever, YATA used to disable on all chars other than shaman
19:08.04Pneumatusand ACP lets you disable per-char
19:10.59Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r74 locals/RecZoneLocals_enUS.lua: Broker_RecZone:
19:11.02Repo- Added missing name
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19:18.16Repo10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.3.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - Added debug info for a very rare LUA error.
19:18.22Repo10decursive: 03Archarodim 042.4.3.1 * 763c1fe /: [new tag] Taggong as 2.4.3.1
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19:32.37Repo10postal: 03mikk * r265 / (2 files in 2 directories):
19:32.40RepoOpenAll: Add a setting for "Keep free space", defaults to keeping 1 regular bagslot free.
19:33.08Mikk^ seeeeeeeeeex
19:33.30Pneumatussettable per-char?
19:33.48Mikkstandard ace profiles of course
19:34.30NivFreakwasn't there an addon that would cheese tracking so you could do both herb/mining at the same time?
19:35.18Mikkthere might have been previously, i know i had it bug on and off without even trying to do anything malicious
19:36.16NivFreakthere was one that swapped them back and forth quickly
19:36.48NivFreakspotter
19:42.08Arrowmasterwowwiki is wrong, DisableAddOn() is per character
19:45.15Pneumatuswowprogramming is wrong too in that case
19:46.20Daemonaâre addon errors logged to framexml log`?
19:46.27Daemonai have an addon that errors and disconnects me :(
19:46.51Daemonaduring anub arak hardmode >:(
19:47.17Pneumatusinfact wowprogramming is right :o
19:47.28jnwhitehyes it is :P
19:51.21Pneumatussb|work: just got cord of the tenebrous mist hardmode :)
19:55.35PneumatusDaemona: nope, only file loading type errors get put in framexml.loh
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19:56.15Gnarfozjust play without addons!
19:56.20Gnarfozahahahaha. >_<
19:59.15Daemonadiaf
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20:26.22Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r336 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Add some missing German translations. Thanks Elandril.
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20:30.25Aliashehehehe
20:30.27AliasHey
20:32.52asmodaiWhy do some items now sport 'Heroic' in their tooltip?
20:32.55asmodaihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=47953
20:33.28asmodaito differentiate between http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47736 normal and heroic
20:33.29asmodai?
20:33.42_ranebecause those items are from heroic 25man toc
20:33.51_raneor something
20:34.06_raneamazing how lazy blizzard can be
20:34.52asmodaiI'm still amazed how many more adverbs and adjectives and suffices they can use :)
20:35.04asmodais/suffices/suffixes/
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20:45.35SkellumHey, there used to be a program I used to keep track of my repair % anyone know a mod that does that?
20:45.46sb|workFFS
20:45.53sb|worktribute to skill at 25...
20:48.05_raneSkellum: I like Fizzle
20:50.32Pneumatusjaraxxus with 26 wipes left :<
20:50.44Pneumatushe seems a damn site easier than beasts t ho
20:50.54sb|workPneumatus: 10... :)
20:50.58Pneumatus25
20:51.18Pneumatusok, im confused
20:51.24Gnarfozany wowace admins/forum admins with the power of username changes around?
20:53.42SkellumWe had a ,4% jaraxxus wipe >_<
20:54.05XtekGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/
20:54.13GnarfozXtek: are you kidding me
20:54.24XtekYes, it was completely a joke.
20:54.24Gnarfoz:P
20:54.35Gnarfozthat page has a history, and it's a bad history
20:54.42SkellumSaid fuck it the next day and just went and grabbed celestial defender
20:55.03XtekI can change it on Curse not WoWAce you're going to want to ping ckknight or Kaelten like I just did.
20:55.59Gnarfozoh, you're doing those now? that's great to hear, heh. Back when that page was implemented, I immediately added myself to the queue and waited for about a year (no kidding) until ckk 'sneaked' my name change in a while ago while doing other stuff. heh
20:56.22Gnarfoz(also, at first, I couldn't even enter my username because of a strict regex and my old username wasn't valid under the current username rules)
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20:56.51Gnarfozhowever, this is about something else, namely wowace forum username is now stuck at the old username ;o
21:00.04Pneumatusjaraxxus down 25man hard as well, what an easy fight :o
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21:05.24Stanzillanow imagine how hard it was pre nerf :D
21:05.52Pneumatuswhat got nerfed?
21:06.35Gnarfozit was buffed
21:06.43Pneumatusoh :o
21:07.02Fiskerbaests are fucking annoying on 25-man :(
21:07.06Pneumatusyes
21:07.08Pneumatusyes they are
21:07.13Pneumatuswe spent like 20 wipes on beasts or something
21:07.17Pneumatusand like 3 on jaraxxus
21:07.24Fiskeri refuse to believe that parry haste is fixed on that encounter
21:07.36Fiskertoday we had a tank die from 2 melee and a impale within 1 second
21:07.46Pneumatusthe problem is actually when gormok impales at the same time as the dot tick
21:07.48Pneumatusthat's a 1shot
21:07.55Fiskeryeah
21:08.20Pneumatus30-40k impale +15k tick at the same time
21:08.22Pneumatusand you lose :<
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21:11.44Pneumatuswait what, faction champs get pvp trinks? :o
21:11.50Pneumatusnever seen them use that in normal
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21:12.47Repo4ee313a: add nil-check to spell-abbrevation
21:12.50Repo900c635: add Ace2 to optdep (for Deformat that requires AceLibrary)
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21:39.45harlwhat the hell is happening to my freenode connection..
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21:49.49harlthat's not exactly what i was asking for. i know that i ghost my own nick on a new connection.
21:50.29harli just don't know why my connection to freenode randomly fail while all others stay stable
21:51.11harl+s
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22:07.11Gnarfozdo esES and esMX share ingame texts?
22:08.35Pneumatusfaction champs heroic down as well, i've got a feeling we've not got enough tries left to kill twinvalks
22:09.15Zynenjoy, we got to them tonight and holy shit we bit the dust fast
22:12.32Pneumatus20 wipes left for them tomorrow, and i'm really not looking forward to it
22:15.54vhaarrShefki: ping
22:20.30Shefkipong
22:24.19vhaarrShefki: could you add this into your api requests thread:
22:24.22vhaarrhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19820544053&postId=198186110623
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22:24.32vhaarrcan probably remove the "for 3.2.2" part
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22:24.50vhaarrI don't care just copy+paste
22:25.03vhaarr"UI Developer's Suggestions and Questions" thread, I mean
22:25.07vhaarrhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16904201555&sid=1
22:25.28ShefkiSure.
22:25.35vhaarrand when you pong 5 minutes later, you should really highlight me as well
22:25.41vhaarr:P
22:25.49vhaarrthanks
22:26.21Fiskervhaarr when is the proximity display in beasts supposed to pop up?
22:27.09vhaarrFisker: when you get burning bile
22:27.11vhaarrand nothing else
22:27.29Fisker:o
22:27.43vhaarrwhy
22:27.52vhaarrshould we show it on some other condition?
22:28.07FiskerWell on heroic it's a pretty good idea to stay spread through entire phase 2
22:28.26vhaarryeah I know, I could add it in without sound for p2
22:28.32vhaarrand just enable the sound when you get the actual debuff
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22:29.15harlwtf is a "sphincter hero".. -.-
22:29.27harlsomeone just said that
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22:32.32Shefkivhaarr: FYI I doubt anything like that would make 3.2.2 at this point.
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22:32.52vhaarryes I realise that
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22:35.45vhaarreh seems the latest libc upgrade broke my wine, hrm
22:35.52vhaarrI'll reboot to make sure
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23:03.34sb|workmhhh...
23:03.54Daemonaseems like vhaarr broke his linux ;)
23:04.00Daemonarebooting for 30 minutes ;)
23:04.05sb|workDaemona: giev blizzcon pet already :/
23:04.40ulicoh yea, wth is my pet?!?!?
23:04.52sb|workmh 6-8 weeks
23:04.53ulicdid anyone get theirs in the mail yet?  I ordered the DTV
23:05.27sb|workthats another 3-5 weeks now, wtf :o
23:05.31Pneumatusnot had mine from dvt
23:05.34Pneumatusdtv
23:13.18MrRuben5http://omgpop.com/i/2832y ! :P
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23:14.53orionshockwhat should i use to match  "[40] PlayerName" ?
23:16.19Adirelle%[%d+%] %W+ ?
23:16.20Shirikwho makes BadBoy? Funkeh`?
23:16.31Adirellehrm, wait
23:16.42orionshockShirik: yes
23:16.59ShirikFunkeh`: ping
23:16.59Adirellelua> ("[40] PlayerName"):match('%[%d+%] [^%s]+')
23:16.59lua_botAdirelle: [40] PlayerName
23:17.04ShirikAdirelle: That looks good
23:17.29Adirellelua> ("[40] PlayerName"):match('%[%d+%] %w+')
23:17.29lua_botAdirelle: [40] PlayerName
23:17.45Adirellelua> ("[40] PlayerNameWithUTF8Stuffé"):match('%[%d+%] %w+')
23:17.45lua_botAdirelle: [40] PlayerNameWithUTF8Stuff
23:17.46Shirikoh yeah sorry, %w not %W :)
23:18.11AdirelleI think [^%s] is better to catch UTF-8 names
23:18.15Shirik(1) that's not UTF8, and (2) those people deserve to be discriminated against anyway
23:18.21Shirikwhy do you write [^%s] ?
23:18.23Shirikso ugly
23:18.27Shirik%S
23:18.28Adirelle%S is working ?
23:18.39AdirelleI'm not completely used to lua patterns
23:18.56Adirelleoh, and about 2) no you !
23:18.59orionshockdon't need name, just lvl
23:19.20Shirikare you sure you're not going to have to worry about things like [40] Invalid:Match
23:19.24Adirelle(1) I'm not sending UTF8 ?
23:19.43Shirikjust saying your é is in the ASCII extended table
23:20.04Shirikanyway, it's just me being picky
23:20.11Adirelleoh, yes, but here and IG it is encoded in utf-8
23:20.29Adirellewanna something funny : œ
23:20.30Shirikwell technically I can't disagree with that because all ASCII characters are UTF-8
23:21.04Adirellenot in ISO-8859-1, and not the same codepoint in CP1252 and ISO-8859-15
23:21.14Shiriko.O
23:21.20Shefkitext encoding wars, go
23:21.30ShefkiIt'll be like the cola wars in the 80s.
23:21.55Adirelleyes, that's just an headache that generally leads to using UTF8
23:21.56Shiriklua> #('é')
23:21.56lua_botShirik: 1
23:22.14Adirelleah, lua_bot is UTF8 compliant :/
23:22.14Shiriklua> #('é'), string.byte'é'
23:22.14lua_botShirik: 1, 233
23:22.18Shirikno it's not
23:22.30Adirellelua> #('œ')
23:22.31lua_botAdirelle: 2
23:22.34Adirelleah
23:22.37Adirellelua> #('é')
23:22.37lua_botAdirelle: 2
23:22.46Shirikok we're obviously sending different characters :P
23:22.53Shirikor different encodings
23:23.11Shirikyay for intercompatibility
23:23.17Adirellewhat's fun is that my client (xchat) renders yours properly
23:23.21Shefkilua> #('how many monkeys does it take to get text encoding right?')
23:23.22lua_botShefki: 57
23:23.23Shirikmine too :P
23:23.31AdirelleShefki: lol
23:23.47ShefkiWould have been better if I made it come out to 42
23:24.04Adirelleactually, that's a pure geek joke
23:24.54AdirelleI can't even imagine trying to explain something like this to my not-in-computer-world wife
23:25.07ShefkiHey I used the name Slarty Bartfast in a post about PB4. :)
23:25.19Funkeh`Shirik, ?
23:25.22Shirikhey
23:25.34Shirikhow exactly do you display the "Complaint reported: somename"
23:25.46ShirikBecause you do something odd; DevTools picks it up as a CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM event
23:25.57ShirikI'm just curious
23:26.56Shirikevent="CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM" arg1="|cFF33FF99BadBoy|r: Complaint Registered. (name)"
23:27.04Shirikand I'm like "that event shouldn't happen..."
23:28.27Funkeh`um, why shouldn't that happen
23:28.35Funkeh`it's quite simply changing the global variable
23:30.40Shirikoh
23:30.44Shirikso you just overwrite the variable
23:32.33Shirikany particular reason you didn't choose to filter out the message and use print() or similar instead?
23:33.39Funkeh`Shirik, why?
23:33.53Funkeh`You can filter out the message if you want, but it's already there so why not recycle it
23:34.01Funkeh`plugs it's already translated
23:34.04Funkeh`plus
23:34.17ShirikI'm just thinking of the hypothetical scenario where some other addon might be looking for that event as well, and you'll essentially break it because the event won't come in
23:34.19Stanzillalicks Funkeh`
23:34.29Funkeh`no
23:34.29ShirikWill that ever happen? Probably not
23:34.31Funkeh`I wouldnt
23:34.46Funkeh`because they should checking the global var
23:34.48Funkeh`which is changed
23:35.14Shirikthe fact that it's changed is the problem
23:35.23Funkeh`how is that nay problem wahtsoever
23:35.36Pneumatusnot if you're matching the event trigger to the pattern in the global
23:35.38Shiriklet us assume I made some addon that does something with that event
23:35.40Pneumatuswhich will match
23:35.48Funkeh`uhu
23:36.24Shirikoh wait
23:36.29Shirikyou aren't saying you change arg1
23:36.32Shirikyou change the format string?
23:36.40Funkeh`yes
23:36.44ShirikI get it now
23:37.30Funkeh`it's nice and simple :)
23:37.41Pneumatusand no addon is ever going to care about the string part regardless, if anything an addon would only want to deformat it to grab the name out
23:38.01ShirikPneumatus: Well they would care if they need to detect it in the first place :P
23:38.20Pneumatusalthough, there is a possible problem
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23:39.22Pneumatusif you wrote an addon to grab the name from the reported message, you could concievably make a local copy of the string, deformat it and use that to :match()
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23:39.26Funkeh`you would need badboy installed
23:39.30Funkeh`because thats a abdboy feature
23:40.12Funkeh`so no, it's not a "problem"
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23:40.47Funkeh`the default blizzard message is simply "Complant Registered."
23:41.02Funkeh`which is restored to default after badboy reports someone
23:41.50Pneumatusah, yes
23:41.59Pneumatusso people wouldn't be deformating it anyway
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