IRC log for #wowace on 20090908

00:00.37Yivrylol repo bot has gone down :p
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00:01.13Yivryah there it is again :P
00:01.54Yivry20 to 25 more days and I finally can get my first reward from the points :P
00:01.59Gnarfozgoes down periodically, really
00:02.11Gnarfozmy addons are not popular enouguh for me to use my points, yet
00:02.34Yivryi get 4 to almost 6 per day depending on how much curse gets ofc.
00:03.10Gnarfoz~pil
00:03.10purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
00:03.33YivryIm at 498 now, so 102 more and its enough for the 10$ + the 20$ so I can buy
00:03.54YivryIm at 498 now, so 102 more and its enough for the 10$ + the 20$ so I can buy
00:04.07GnarfozI'm getting about 12 currently
00:05.58Groktarboo tankpoints is ace2
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00:07.18Yivryugh stupid connection...
00:07.52Yivryhmm odd
00:07.57Yivry~programmingwow
00:07.59Yivry~wowprogramming
00:08.00purlWorld of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com
00:08.26GnarfozYivry: btw: http://paste.wowace.com/1104/ <- I was thinking of *this* now. :D
00:08.27Yivryright that one... must be the first command after all... sheez slow bot :P
00:08.29pakoz@ckk, thanks
00:09.01GnarfozYivry: because the case that 'unit' is not "player" happens a ton more often than the other cases
00:09.41Repo10gearevaluator: 03Stlke 07master * v1.0.1-beta2-3-ge795086 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
00:09.44Repoe795086: Updated Outfitter module to work with the new BestScore module
00:09.47Repo4c9099f: Added BestScore module, removed AutoSets and cleaned Outfitter module
00:09.50Repoae99668: Support for Outfitter 4.8
00:10.30Yivryyou sure that self.vehicleUI being false isnt the most occurring thing?
00:11.05Gnarfozhm, it might, depending on if I get spellcasting info for everyone while everyone is in a vehicle
00:11.25Yivryoh and btw the return on line 7 made lines 2 to 6 obsolete
00:11.36Gnarfozhowever, "self.vehicleUI" is a table lookup, so I'm not too sure if *that* shouldn't take precedence over "happens how often?"
00:11.42Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2445 ARLDatamine.lua:
00:11.45RepoUse "back" instead of "cloak" to check if an item is a cloak.
00:11.52Gnarfozah yes, you're right
00:11.53Gnarfoz:x
00:12.09Gnarfozobviously, I need "goto"
00:12.10Gnarfoz:D
00:12.43Yivrycan you give me the 4 possibilities again, and which ones to bail out on?
00:13.36ckknighttable lookups are extremely cheap.
00:16.14Yivryckknight, just as a personal reference as to when I can find curse folk on here... what time is it for you atm?
00:16.25ckknightCST
00:16.28ckknightso, 8:16 PM
00:16.51Yivryok so its -6 :P
00:19.38YivryGnarfoz: you figured it out yet? :P
00:21.40Yivry(because I should be going to bed soon, alarm goin off in 6,5 hours again for college :P (Datastructures and Algorithms *sigh*))
00:25.17Yivrysomeone say something, I feel like Im talking to a wall :p
00:25.42Yivryand no my screen isnt THAT big lol
00:27.01Gnarfozckknight: so you're saying "nevermind the one-level-up table lookup, his solution is fine"?^^
00:30.07GnarfozYivry: 6,5 hours, so you're where? UTC+/- what? ^^
00:31.15YivryCST +6, being GMT +1 (and iirc CET)
00:31.36Yivry(amsterdam, european server time) :P
00:32.08Yivryhave no clue about UTC
00:33.51ckknightGnarfoz: yea, that's perfectly fine
00:34.48GnarfozYivry: oh well, I'm UTC+2 because of Germany's summer time thingy
00:35.01Yivryoh right summer time
00:35.21Yivrywell I believe germany and the netherlands share time zone
00:35.43Yivry(and both do that summer time crap apparently :P )
00:37.33Yivryargh I hate my isp :/
00:38.23Gnarfozyeah, we should be in the same time zone, but that would bean we're both UTC+2 currently, it being 02:37? ^^
00:38.49Yivryyup
00:39.41Gnarfozright =)
00:40.03GnarfozYivry: thanks for your input btw
00:40.15Gnarfozckknight: and yours too, you could probably do this in your sleep anyway
00:40.16Gnarfoz:P
00:40.31ckknightthumbs up
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00:49.33Gnarfozckknight: did your client just replace ** with a mirc color code? :D
00:49.43ckknightI think so.
00:49.46Gnarfozheh
00:49.48ckknightbold, actually
00:50.14Gnarfozyeah, bold of course, but that's "mirc style", too, if I'm not mistaken
00:50.15Arrowmasterthats gay
00:50.37GnarfozI know irssi does it client side for me, but yours seems to do it with the outgoing lines ^^
00:51.00Arrowmasterit looks really bad for me
00:51.32Arrowmasterim using a bold font to bolded text is even more bold and the letters run into each other
00:51.44Gnarfozit looks just as I'd expect it to look, I'm just not used to actually seeing it much on freenode ^^
00:51.55Gnarfozhehe, faux bold sucks, indeed
00:52.59Arrowmasterill admit ive been used to using fixedsys as my irc font for like 10 years, so ive had trouble adjusting to not having fixedsys
00:53.15Torhalckknight: So...where's my True Blood episode?
00:53.25TorhalYou didn't let Fisker borrow it, did you?
00:53.45ckknightTorhal: I dunno, it was Sunday, wasn't it?
00:53.50TorhalYup
00:54.17GnarfozArrowmaster: I think I'm using a ttf version of Fixedsys, too :D
00:54.28Arrowmasteri have it but i didnt like it
00:54.48Arrowmasterit did didnt even have a bold when i was using it in wine
00:54.58Arrowmasterso bold and normal looked the same
00:56.02Arrowmasteroh yeah now i know why i didnt like it, its not like real fixedsys at all, way too much space above and below the letters
00:56.09GnarfozArrowmaster: yeah, that sucks, and this one has its own drawbacks, but it's fine for IRC for me
00:56.32GnarfozI'm using "Fixedsys Excelsior 2.00", not sure if that's the same you were using
00:56.37Arrowmasteroh
00:56.48Arrowmasteri have a FixedsysTTF
00:59.18Repo10fu-bar_reagent-fu: 03Ackis 07master * v3.03-14-g75ee68c / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fix localization issues.
01:06.31Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2446 / (2 files in 2 directories): worked on some of ticket 802.
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01:27.16GnarfozArrowmaster: yeah, I have that flying around, too, it's rather bad :\
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01:40.36OdlawAdditional instances cannot be launched, please try again later.
01:40.58Shadowedhrm did the packager die again?
01:41.18ShadowedSeems to be ignoring a tag from about 40 minutes ag
01:41.21Shadowed+o
01:43.56Repo10collectinator (experimental): 03Torhal 07master * Alpha1-198-g35175b7 CollectinatorFrame.lua: [+2 commits]
01:43.59Repo35175b7: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/collectinator/mainline
01:44.03Repoe88a235: Update FilterValueMap stuff from new ARL code.
01:46.22Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2447 ARLFrame.lua: In InitializeFrame(): Fixed a call to GenericMakeCB().
01:54.05steev79-80 gets really boring :/
01:54.58WobWorkthat's why you instance it
01:55.29steevi am... sorta :-P
01:58.07steevtechnically battlegrounds are instances
02:03.54ckknightTorhal: looks like it's airing on the 13th
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02:31.29Torhalckknight: Ah, ok. Danke
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02:42.03GnarfozAnyone around who knows about "the" Wild Growth bug with macro options (especially: mouseover macros fail to work when you currently have a unit targetted that's hostile or OOR. you get an OOR error even though your macro should cast on your mouseover unit)?
02:44.22Groktarwe fail @ algalon 25 so much
02:44.35Groktar3rd big bang inc, everyone alive
02:44.42Groktaralgalon at 26%
02:44.45Groktar4th star isn't dead on time, and all black holes are closed
02:48.20steev:(
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02:52.00steevomg im loving this av, it sucks for the xp but
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03:05.33steevwow that was fun
03:05.36steevlike the days of old
03:07.12MegalonThe rat, which has no fear of humans, measures 82cm long, placing it among the largest species of rat known anywhere in the world.
03:07.37Megalonthat's one big fucker
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03:13.18ShefkiHas anyone here used the raid lockouut thing?
03:13.18ShefkiThe extension.
03:15.33Endyes
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03:44.14GnarfozShefki: yep, 'sup?
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03:46.12Shefkinm found out our answer.
03:47.39Shadowedmmmm who do we bug when tags bug out again?
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03:48.19Torhalckknight: ^^
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03:57.31Repo10priorityqueue: 03NeonKnightmare * r51 / (2 files in 2 directories): PriorityQueue:
03:57.34RepoMage.lua:
03:57.37RepoLocales/Locale-enUS.lua:
03:57.40Repo- Added Frost mage priorities.
04:14.00Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2448 ARLFrame.lua:
04:14.03RepoRemoved addon.resetFilters(), moving its contents directly into ARL_ResetButton's OnClick script since that's the only place it was ever used, and removed the check for the addon frame's existence since at this point it will always exist.
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04:21.08Repo10priorityqueue: 03NeonKnightmare * r52 Mage.lua: PriorityQueue:
04:21.11RepoMage.lua:
04:21.14Repo- BUGFIX: Accidentally used GetDebuffInfo() instead of GetBuffInfo() for Brain Freeze buff detection.
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04:25.35sylvanaartrying to decide how to write that bugtracker this weekend was educational. so many ways to accomplish the same task
04:25.57sylvanaarand seriously - how many CMS's are there
04:26.31sylvanaari think my mom has her own, and my cat is almost done with his 'innovative cms'
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04:54.36Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2449 ARLFrame.lua:
04:54.39RepoRemoved addon.setFlyawayState() (all 118 lines of it) and replaced it with a 9-line OnShow for addon.Flyaway, thanks to the re-structuring of FilterValueMap.
05:00.02Repo10collectinator (experimental): 03Torhal 07master * Alpha1-200-gd44f5ac CollectinatorFrame.lua: [+2 commits]
05:00.05Repod44f5ac: Fixed obtain flag numbers in GenerateTooltipContent(). Replaced addon.setFlyawayState() with a loop directly in the OnShow of the addon.Flyaway panel. Removed two more un-needed filters, and added a BoA filter.
05:00.08Repo7a948c9: Removed everything to do with the "specialty" filter, and removed addon.resetFilters(), moving its contents directly into Collectinator_ResetButton's OnClick script since that's the only place it was ever used, and removed the check for the addon frame's existence since at this point it will always exist.
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06:09.37orionshocksylvanaar: ping  thanks for the changes in libAlts :)
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06:14.09orionshock@ channel,  anyone know how to use the auto complete stuff ?
06:17.00Shirik?
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06:28.58orionshockthe built in ui autocomplete feature
06:29.25orionshocki figured it out. I went in and grabed the code from the Mail frame send box :)
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06:38.42Elkanoasmodai: ping?
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07:01.58Repo10rostertooltip: 03OrionShock * r23 alt-main.lua: update layout a bit & grab new localizations
07:07.29mitch0WTB shaman tester
07:12.09orionshockgrr looks like i'll need to use AceGUI in that mod..
07:12.13orionshockwas hoping to avoid that..
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07:19.43asmodaimitch0: I can, but I'm at work now :(
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07:27.43Elkanoasmodai, I pinged you, but you timed out :(
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07:33.40sb|workmorning
07:34.04sb|workand meh - 1.5 hours late.. :o
07:36.16hastemorning
07:36.23hastethere is no 1.5 hours too late here!
07:36.26haste~ugt
07:36.27purlrumour has it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
07:36.51Repo10collectinator (experimental): 03Torhal 07master * Alpha1-201-gdb75d60 CollectinatorFrame.lua: [+1 commit] Removed filters and checkboxes for "skill" and "discovery".
07:39.26asmodaiElkano: oh
07:39.28asmodaiElkano: PONG
07:39.31Elkano^^
07:39.39asmodai:)
07:39.52Elkanojust wanted to let you know that it's a Blizzard bug
07:40.15asmodaiThat was my hunch, didn't think ebb did anything special for that stuff
07:40.21Elkano(since I'm not swapping to vehicle and still show the player buffs)
07:40.56asmodaiClose it with prejudice then :)
07:41.11asmodaiI'll make sure to log an issue with Blizzard when I get home.
07:41.26asmodaiBeen filing small bugs left and right.
07:42.32Groktarcurls up in asmodai's lap and fall asleep
07:42.39asmodaipats Groktar
07:42.44Groktardies, losing control of his bowels
07:42.47Groktardecomposes foully
07:43.49asmodaisighs
07:44.31Groktarleft a note in his apartment warning the police of asmodai's plot to kill him
07:45.24asmodaiso, what was that addon in that video by Ensidia that showed the debuffs/dots on a target as a timeline with icons?
07:47.31Elkanogood question
07:47.46sb|workcoolline
07:47.55sb|work(i didnt watch the video :p)
07:48.02sb|work@describe coolline
07:48.03Reposb|work: No project found that matches 'coolline'
07:48.06sb|work@describe cool-line
07:48.07Reposb|work: No project found that matches 'cool-line'
07:48.10sb|workfuck you repo
07:48.29sb|workhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12467-CoolLine.html
07:48.33sb|workthat one?
07:48.50Torhalsb|work: Repo is saving itself.
07:50.21sb|worksaving from wowi? :p
07:50.44Torhalsb|work: No, marriage.
07:51.00TorhalRepo is after purl.
07:51.24asmodaichecking
07:51.42asmodailooks like it
07:51.50asmodaita :)
07:52.03Adirelle|workI think I overlooked something, could someone explain me why bigwgs is being rewritten ? (could not find anything about it on the forums)
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07:52.30Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2269 / (6 files in 2 directories): - Bug fixes
07:52.31asmodaiTo move from Ace2 to Ace3
07:53.00sb|workand to torture all users!
07:53.05Groktarhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/lUxkfOfKbqIghj9r/sum/damageTaken/?s=19389&e=19897
07:53.11Groktarall mobs attacking the prot warrior the entire fight
07:53.12Groktarrawr
07:53.14Adirelle|workonly, wasn't something related to a deleted module or something like that ?
07:53.15asmodaiOh btw, so I am using Combuctor, works great, but when I open the bank I can never select any item unless I switch tabs first
07:53.28sb|workbecause thats the main project of vhaarr, [Ammo] and Funkeh` :/
07:53.56sb|work(well, that plus world domination i suppose :/)
07:54.42asmodaiGroktar: that's some decent tanking
07:54.42Groktarhehe
07:55.11Groktaryeah, we were wondering why healing was so easy that attempt
07:57.10asmodaithe black knight is what instance? Trial of the Champion?
07:58.55Groktaryeah
07:59.19asmodaiok, so my gear is < 200, only have 1 200 item on both my enhancement and resto gear as shaman
07:59.33asmodaigot called in to heal the fight, no problem, but I still need to get used to doing resto
07:59.50asmodaiDoesn't help if one of the DPSers afks half way to get dinner
08:00.06asmodaiand the rest let adds move on me and hit me and all that without rescuing
08:00.40asmodaiWanted to punch the idiot who said "stop moving"
08:00.53asmodaiSure, let me die right here on the spot.
08:01.20Fiskerslaps sb|work around a bit with a large trout
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08:08.02sb|workneed feat of strenght for 1 year played :/
08:08.21nevcairielI'm already over that :(
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08:10.55sb|worknevcairiel: yeah, me too :/
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08:11.05sb|work370 on priest, 40 on rogue :/
08:11.11sb|workthats why i need feat :p
08:11.31Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6194 Core/Core.lua: plugins were being enabled prematurely
08:11.34RepoTOO SOON EXECUTUES, TOO SOON!
08:11.53[Ammo]mojosdojo: that commit should fix your issues
08:12.00[Ammo]with targets not enabling
08:12.32mojosdojo[Ammo]: great, I try it and let you know about
08:12.34pb_ee1Repo: Spam reported!
08:14.09Repo10collectinator (experimental): 03Torhal 07master * Alpha1-203-g19a34aa / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
08:14.12Repo19a34aa: Changed ACQUIRE_* constants to reflect what's in the docs, removed profession parameter from addon:DisplayTextDump()
08:14.15Repo7628a09: Small syntax changes.
08:14.20Repo10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r838 AceGUI-3.0/widgets (2 files in 1 directory): AceGUI-3.0:
08:14.23Repo- Button: Pass the arguments of the OnClick handler to the OnClick callback (Ticket #57)
08:14.26Repo- Checkbox: Improve the visual display of the hover texture.
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08:16.33[Ammo]I changed Ulduar to be Loch Modan for my tests mojosdojo and those mobs there make damn good razorscale impressions ;)
08:16.48[Ammo]oh and Loch Modan is WEIRD in deDE
08:16.57[Ammo]Gasthof Starke Lager
08:16.57[Ammo]urgh
08:17.07sb|workwtf
08:17.13mojosdojoyeah, most of the old world stuff is wierd in deDE
08:17.20[Ammo]like googletranslated
08:17.27[Ammo]it doesn't feel right
08:18.00mojosdojoit isn't, not really propper german ;)
08:19.36sb|workmojosdojo: http://www.hergt.de/pics/mr_proper/mrproper.jpg that one german?
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08:20.06mojosdojoyep, german commercial
08:20.09Fiskerslaps [Ammo] around a bit with a large trout
08:20.10sb|worki know
08:24.34Repo10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r82 Localization.lua: Localization updated.
08:25.19Repo10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 04v1.3-beta-3 * r83 : Tagging as v1.3-beta-3
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08:27.17Repo10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r839 AceGUI-3.0/widgets (2 files in 1 directory): AceGUI-3.0:
08:27.20Repo- DropDown: Added a GetValue() API to the Widget (Ticket #69)
08:27.24Repo- InteractiveLabel: Properly align the label and the icon (Ticket #60)
08:27.59asmodai[Ammo]: wtf? Gasthof Starke Lager? :|
08:28.15[Ammo]it's the inn in Loch Modan in german :p
08:28.17[Ammo]afaik
08:28.32TorhalBabelFish German
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08:28.38asmodaiI wonder how Arthas sounds in German
08:28.56nevcairieltotally silly
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08:29.11nevcairieli watched the wrathgate cutscene in german once
08:29.51asmodaiNein Arthas, Ich soll es nicht ansehen wie du Stratholme etc, etc.
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08:30.52sb|workTod der Geißel - und Tod allen Lebenden! :/
08:32.02mojosdojoArthas reminds me of Batman, you know, the voice..
08:33.36sb|workmhh
08:33.39sb|workarthas IS batman
08:34.46sb|workhttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/20/world/europe/20germany.html?_r=1 <-- THAT is fail.. *sigh*
08:35.03nevcairielneeds login
08:35.08nevcairieltake a screenshot :P
08:35.10sb|workhm no
08:35.16sb|worktry http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/20/world/europe/20germany.html then
08:36.17mojosdojo[Ammo]: but loading the bosses seem to work
08:37.10nevcairielPeople want the elections to be "exciting"? They are not there to be entertainment, ffs
08:37.10Elkanonev, loaded fine for me
08:37.35Adirelle|workdoes anyone know a good DR tracking addon ?
08:37.49Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6195 Core/BossPrototype.lua:
08:37.51Repotemporarily add Enabled: <module> name to the boss modules for easier debugging.
08:40.03Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6196 Plugins/Bars2.lua: no need to stop anything if we don't have an anchor
08:41.00nevcairielthrows a heavy solid iron anchor at [Ammo]
08:50.01asmodainice impact
08:53.37asmodaierrm, ok: http://jackshoe.blogspot.com/2007/07/cymothoa-exigua-alien.html
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08:57.40mojosdojo[Ammo]: Does LibSink support come back?
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09:17.40mitch0still no shaman around that can spare 2-3 mins of playtime for me? :)
09:19.46harlhi all
09:22.40asmodaimitch0: I can, but when I get home :(
09:23.44mitch0well, better than nothing :)
09:24.19asmodaimitch0: which will be in about 6 hours XD
09:24.20mitch0post a note on this ticket then if you could test it: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pet-time-to-live/tickets/1-death-knight-temporary-ghoul/
09:25.10mitch0the shaman earth/fire elementals need testing
09:27.51asmodaimitch0: Do I need to apply the patch still after getting the addon?
09:28.08mitch0no
09:28.14asmodaiok
09:28.20asmodaiI'll just grab the latest from the repo then
09:28.21mitch0the latest alpha has a different implementation
09:28.58asmodaiokiedokie
09:29.03mitch0thanks in advance
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09:31.17asmodaimitch0: no worries mate :)
09:39.48asmodaihttp://www.wow-achievements.com/Person.aspx?region=EU&realm=Aegwynn&name=Corsica
09:39.51asmodaithat scares me
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09:46.03Kalrothhe's not even done yet
09:47.19yoshimomhm this page is listing a lot of players which dont belong to our guild anymore ;)
09:49.41asmodaiyoshimo: I guess you can refresh the guild
09:50.11yoshimoif you can tell me where the button is, im to blind to see it
09:53.54asmodaiyoshimo: click on one of those folks 'in'the guild
09:53.59asmodaiit has a refresh guild link
09:54.34yoshimothank you ;)
09:54.43asmodaiat least I hope that helps
09:54.58asmodaiAnd not that it has some stupid caching scheme
09:55.30yoshimothe guild was last updated in april/may.... ;)
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10:00.25yoshimoi shouldn't have used accents in my charname.. whenever i try to visit my armoryprofile, i have search for it because firefox encodes the "â" and the armory cant find my char then..
10:02.55sb|workand your raidleader hates you
10:03.20yoshimowhy should he? ;)
10:05.27asmodaiyoshimo: actually
10:05.59asmodaiwhat's network.standard-url set to?
10:07.34yoshimowhich one?   network.standard-url.encode-query-utf8 or network.standard-url.encode-utf8 or network.standard-url.escape-utf8 ?
10:08.40asmodaiall :)
10:09.13asmodaiI assume you're trying to look up your character via the URL?
10:09.26yoshimoyes
10:09.31vhaarrmojosdojo: "come back"?
10:10.00yoshimonetwork.standard-url.encode-query-utf8 = false, the rest true
10:11.38asmodaiok
10:11.46asmodaiwhen I have the other two to false
10:11.53asmodaiI can stuff like: http://tw.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=死亡之翼&n=太陽
10:12.00asmodaican do stuff
10:12.11[Ammo]vhaarr: he means you can't configure sink support atm :)
10:12.12[Ammo]I guess
10:12.24vhaarrwell obviously
10:15.53Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2270 / (4 files in 4 directories): - Made the Emblem pages into sub menu for easier navigation
10:15.56Repo- Added missing Arena Dagger
10:15.59Repo- Split the PvP Class Items into Relic types
10:16.13vhaarrmojosdojo: yes it will come back, almost everything will come back
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10:21.13Repo10baggins: 03mikk * r430 Baggins-Filtering.lua: - Ticket 23: Fix "Bind" detection with colorblind mode on
10:21.16Repo- Also fixes bind detection with ToC 10/25 heroic drops (which have a "Heroic" line as 2nd line)
10:21.19Repo- Add "Binds to account" rule option
10:21.26yoshimomhm that doesnt seem to do it asmodai. i still get Samir%E2 : file not found
10:21.53asmodaican you give me the URL to your toon? let me test it here, see if it works on my config
10:22.35yoshimohttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Thrall&n=Samirâ should work, but doesnt
10:23.03yoshimoclicking on the link does, but not when i type it myself
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10:24.34Repo10baggins: 03mikk 04r430-beta * r431 : Tagging as r430-beta
10:24.57yoshimo~wowalert
10:24.58purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
10:29.38asmodaithat's funny
10:29.52asmodaiI wonder why it is changing the â to the escape
10:30.01asmodaiyet not for my taiwanese tests
10:30.10Repo10libgrouptalents-1-0: 03Zeksie * r30 LibGroupTalents-1.0.lua: Fix error in GetGUIDGlyphs()
10:31.24Arrowmasteryoshimo: how are you typing it yourself? does your keyboard layout have that letter on it?
10:32.09yoshimoi need to press the ^-key first,then hit a normal "a" to compose the real one
10:32.30Arrowmasterok just normal compose key stuff
10:32.30nevcairieldeadkeys ftw .P
10:32.51Arrowmasterdeadkeys ftl unless they can only be activated with altgr
10:33.21nevcairieli usually never need the keys that are defined deadkeys other then composing stuff
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10:33.56sb|workdeadkeys are bad
10:34.15Arrowmasterwell %E2 would mean its being treated as some superset of ascii
10:34.32nevcairielyou can easily turn the deadkeys off, if you dont want them
10:34.45Arrowmasterim guessing it needs to be sent as utf8
10:35.00Arrowmasteryoshimo: what browser?
10:35.05nevcairielascii is UTF-8 too
10:35.19yoshimofirefox 3.5.2
10:35.55nevcairielIt'll always encode any non-utf8 chars into entitys when you type them in input boxes
10:35.58nevcairieler
10:36.01nevcairielnon-ascii chars
10:37.52Arrowmastercheck about:config for network.standard-url.*
10:38.29yoshimoi changed it the way asmodai told me  (see a few lines above)
10:38.47Arrowmasteroh lol
10:39.55Arrowmasterseems we both knew there was stuff in there about how it encodes urls
10:42.17Arrowmasteryoshimo: i was thinking that setting them all to true would do it
10:42.49asmodaiActually we switched them to off.
10:42.53sb|worknevcairiel: using US keyboard for 5 years no, so no deadkeys for me :p
10:42.57yoshimoill be right back ;)
10:43.10nevcairielsilly us keyboards miss the funny german chars =p
10:43.28nevcairieläöüß!
10:43.38sb|workyea.. "funny" ;p
10:44.05Arrowmasterim using a us keyboard and can do that too
10:44.07sb|workalt+0252, alt+0228 and alt+0246 are your friends :p
10:44.13Arrowmaster«»
10:44.26nevcairielThere is not one advantage in using a US layout
10:44.54nevcairielits one change to turn off deadkeys on the de layout, if i wanted to
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10:45.07sb|workwell, my notebook only had us keyboards years ago, so i got used to it - now i'm using us keyboards everywhere :/
10:45.12Arrowmasteräåéëþüúíóö«»¬áßðïœø¶æœ©®bñµç¿
10:45.19Arrowmasterus keyboard
10:45.23yoshimosetting everything to true magically solves the whole problem ;)
10:45.23Pneumatusis de layout qwerty?
10:45.29sb|workno Pneumatus, quertz
10:45.30nevcairielqwertz
10:45.32Zeksiede is qwertz
10:45.48Arrowmasteryoshimo: i just tested, it works for me using firefox 3.0.12 with default settings
10:45.49Pneumatusfrench is azerty isnt it?
10:45.52Arrowmasterbut im not on windows
10:45.53Zeksiethink so
10:45.54nevcairiely and z are exchanged, since german rarely uses y, and uses z alot more
10:46.42asmodaimmm
10:46.51asmodaiyoshimo: I need to double check that :|
10:46.57asmodaiif the taiwanese stuff keeps working
10:47.34asmodaiwowjutsu - nice idea, failure in implementation
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10:48.04asmodaionly problem is when I copy paste the URL with all set to true it will yield:
10:48.06asmodaihttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Thrall&n=Samir%C3%A2
10:48.42asmodaihttp://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.standard-url.escape-utf8
10:48.49asmodaihttp://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.standard-url.encode-utf8
10:49.39Arrowmasterwell proper url encoding is to convert it to percent escaping
10:50.18asmodaiYea
10:50.25asmodaiJust doublechecked it with the RFC
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10:53.24Arrowmasterits just the escape one you need to set to false if you want to be able to copy the address bar and not get the percent escaping
10:53.29Arrowmasterleave the other two at default
10:55.10asmodaiyeah, I did
10:55.28asmodaiHaven't really run into problems with that either in the past
10:56.07asmodaiis that Alex: http://qikr.com/3x89nc
10:56.15asmodaiAlbrecht that is
10:57.01Arrowmasterit looks like first there was encode-utf8 that made it follow the rfc and not act like IE or Opera, but then when IRI support was added encode-query-utf8 was added which made it break from the rfc and act like IE and Opera
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11:03.06yoshimoto get it working the way i want it to i need to set: encode query= true (nondefault) ,encode-ut8 =true(default) and  url.escape-utf8=false (nondefault), it seems
11:03.50Arrowmasterthe encode-query-utf8 one to true seems odd
11:04.04Arrowmasteri wonder if its because you are using 3.5.x vs my 3.0.x
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11:04.11Arrowmasteror if its due to OS
11:05.01Arrowmastermaybe OS since im using linux which uses a utf8 locale so everything is already in utf8
11:05.21yoshimosetting encode query to default causes La%EEne instead of Laîne
11:05.48Arrowmastermaybe it needs another option like encode-query-utf8 but only for when the url is typed into the address bar
11:07.58yoshimoie8 displays it correctly with default settings but cant find the char on the armory either
11:08.37Arrowmasterie8 is just hiding the escaping from you
11:09.27yoshimowhen i access my char via search in ie8  and the char is shown, the url is escaped with %C3%A2
11:10.04Arrowmasterright, utf8
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11:10.52Arrowmasterbrowsers should just default to utf8 for everything imho
11:11.06Arrowmasterfuck the servers that arent using utf8, they should update
11:14.46yoshimoabout the graphicoption vertical.sync,  i have a geforce 275gtx  and would like to know if i should enable or disable this option . i currently have 60fps on slightly changed ultrasettings, which dropp down to about 15 when i try to record movies with xfire.
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11:21.57asmodaiArrowmaster: doubtful, I'm using 3.5
11:22.03asmodaionly option I changed was the escape
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11:27.35yoshimo~seen shadowed
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11:42.24asmodaiGetScreenWidth
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11:47.51yoshimoif i get a c stack overflow while casting, what could an addon have done wrong?
11:49.09mitch0infinite recursive call?
11:50.01mitch0like hooking stuff twice while calling orig
11:50.36mitch0anyone happen to know how to tell vim to allow me to swap files with CTRL-^ in INSERT mode?
11:51.44mitch0meh, solved it with an :imap, but I think there's a better way
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12:07.17asmodaimorning Whitetooth
12:07.34Whitetoothmorning :D
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12:10.40Repostolenlegacy: No project found that matches 'preformav'
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12:10.54stolenlegacy/sigh
12:11.03stolenlegacy@project preform-av-enabler.
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12:11.06stolenlegacy@project preform-av-enabler
12:11.07Repostolenlegacy: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/preform-av-enabler/. Preform AV Enabler. Game: WoW. Torrid (Manager/Author). Updated: 31 days ago. Tickets: 5/5
12:11.09stolenlegacybetter
12:11.12stolenlegacy~seen Torrid
12:11.13purli haven't seen 'torrid', stolenlegacy
12:11.18stolenlegacysighs
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12:26.38yoshimowhats wrong with the preformenabler?
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12:34.27Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6197 / (2 files in 2 directories): add manual loading of zones again
12:35.40Stanzillayay!
12:35.50[Ammo]happy with a dead duck
12:36.12[Ammo]slowly getting to where I want to be with bigwigs
12:36.27[Ammo]as a core that is
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12:47.03asmodai[Ammo]: And that is? :)
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12:47.17[Ammo]well to a state were it's semi-functional again
12:47.28[Ammo]after that it's refactoring time
12:47.29Repo10auracle: 03taleden * r77 Auracle.toc: - version 1.1.1
12:47.37[Ammo]but at least we're ace3 then and pewpew
12:47.54[Ammo]we are now ofcourse
12:48.01[Ammo]but it's not entirely complete :)
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12:50.20asmodaiheh
12:50.27asmodaiI like the pew pew addition
12:50.33asmodaiDoes it also have lasers?
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12:51.05[Ammo]sharks with lasers on their heads
12:52.22asmodai\o/
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12:56.19Daemonaunicorns !
12:57.34Wobinhttp://graphjam.com/2008/11/25/song-chart-memes-i-shaped-tetris-block/
12:58.43sb|workmh i don't get it
12:58.49asmodaiDaemona: mmm, no
12:58.55sb|workah...
12:59.01sb|workokay
13:02.28Daemonastrange thread is strange .. http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10711084974&sid=1
13:02.38Daemona"What do you think about the availability of addons"
13:03.06Fiskernooooooooo Daemona
13:03.11Fisker2 weeks until they stock my hdd :(
13:03.25MegalonWobin: http://graphjam.com/2009/09/04/song-chart-memes-wile-coyote/ even better :D
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13:06.14Megalonsand blasts Fisker's hdd
13:06.19steevboo for downtime
13:06.23steevFisker: which are you getting?
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13:15.22yoshimodo we get 3.2.2 today&tomorrow on liverealms?
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13:22.57sztanpetdoesnt seem so
13:23.01sztanpet~wowalert
13:23.02purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
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13:24.27Fisker0. Name changed...   08/09/2009 14:38:45 CEST Cumelephant
13:24.28Fisker....
13:24.30Fisker...................
13:25.07steevwtf?
13:25.41Fiskerthat's what i said :E
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13:28.31steevhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Nesingwary&cn=Solene
13:28.42steevquestion about that - wth is the horde rep at 11999/12000 ?
13:28.47steevhow do i raise that up?
13:29.40hasteby not having a tabard on probably
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13:30.05Starinnianah, thats fake horde rep
13:30.18Starinniasome quests give rep with all factions of the horde
13:30.26Starinniaand it looks like Blizz tracks that
13:30.31CrazyBennyby doing quests, that give reputation to the horde main factions...it's that so called hidden rep
13:30.56steevno... i do seem to recall that doing turn ins inside AV and MSBT was reporting (Horde) instead of (Thunderbluff)
13:31.30Starinniabut its not a real in-game rep
13:32.51Zeksieif something is intended to award the same rep for all factions, it'll show as gaining Horde
13:32.55steevi shall redouble my efforts in getting the fake faction
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13:33.49mitch0lua> t = {} ; print (#t);
13:33.49lua_botmitch0: 0
13:37.16hastelua> print(#{[2] = "awesome!"})
13:37.16lua_bothaste: 0
13:38.37mitch0haste: weren't you the one requesting the removal of gui config and stuff from RangeDisplay to make it smaller? (waay back a year or two ago :)
13:39.49hastedon't think so
13:39.56hasteI have no idea what RangeDisplay is even :p
13:40.57hastealso why would I request anyone to remove the guy for me, when I could just do it myself? :3
13:41.11hasteI would do more than just remove the GUI, but that's a different piece of the pie
13:42.18hasteand now I want brownies
13:42.25hasteso I'm going to bake some! afk ->
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13:46.30mitch0haste: hm. I think it was you, now that you mention, you wanted to rip out all Ace stuff from it :) (well, maybe it wasn't you but someone very much like you :)
13:46.49Stanzillacrit
13:46.53Stanzillaheheheh :(
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13:48.12Starinniadang, i want brownies now too
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13:54.02zoktarlo just wondering, is it possible to add like an external lua that loads after the first one, and replaces various thing from the orignal, ehm like say, i download an addon, and in its main lua it does local blabla, and then the external is applied after wich does local blabla2, the idea is that i dont have to modifiy a lua after every release to my liking.
13:54.26MrRuben5hmm, what is better, glyph of life tap or glyph on immolate as a destro lock?
13:56.24Zeksiezoktar: you could try using SVN to download said mods, and when you update to later versions your changes will be kept.
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14:06.45hastemitch0: I don't mind people using ace tho'
14:07.08hastemitch0: I wouldn't consider it myself, but people can use what they won't when I don't have to be bothered with it :p
14:07.54Fiskerhastemen :(
14:07.59Fiskermy hdd
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14:09.08hasteFisker: yes sorry about it, but I had to accidently all over it
14:09.17hastes/it/that/
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14:15.28Fiskerdamn haste
14:15.55Fiskerthey don't expect it in stock until in a couple of weeks
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14:42.50steevFisker: what is better, i5 or i7?
14:46.58Stanzillai7
14:47.09steevahh
14:48.01asmodaii7 has hyperthreading
14:48.02asmodaii5 doesn't
14:48.07Brunershttp://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2009/09/08/intel-core-i5-and-i7-lynnfield-cpu-review/1
14:48.16Brunershttp://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2009/09/08/intel-lynnfield-details-and-architecture/1
14:48.17asmodaiproblem is that hyperthreading has been shown to be detrimental with (some) games.
14:52.22Fiskeri wantt my hdd steev
14:52.24Fiskerwant*
14:52.26steevFisker: which!
14:52.33Fiskerhttp://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=733
14:52.49steevhawt
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14:56.00Fiskerlocal hardware dealer said they won't get it in stock for another 2 weeks :(
14:57.07nevcairielfail :P
14:57.13steevhttp://promotions.newegg.com/LG/090809/index.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL090809&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL090809-_-MECH-_-EB1A-_-LG
14:57.21nevcairielsee, thats why i order in online shops, i instantly know if its in stock
14:57.29nevcairieland i have it 3 days later, at the latest
14:59.46Fiskerit is an online shop
15:00.06nevcairielthen your online shop fails :P
15:00.29hastenow you can regret that you don't live in norway Fisker !
15:00.42Fiskerwhy haste ?
15:00.42hastewe have a DB, with the entries for so to say all online shops
15:00.53Fiskeras do we
15:00.54Fiskerdurr
15:00.54hasteso we can just seach for a product and pick it at the place that has it / cheapest
15:01.02hastethen order it from another shop!
15:01.16Fiskerno other shop has it
15:01.18Fiskerdouble durr
15:01.27hastethen your online shops fail!
15:01.53Fiskergo find it in a norwegian one and link me then
15:01.55Fiskertriple durr
15:03.53steevwth is a .onetoc2 file
15:05.09Fiskeryo momma?
15:05.49Fiskerso haste
15:05.55Fiskerhow's the shopping going?
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15:06.56hasteFisker: I'm not shopping :P
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15:07.58hasteFisker: no one has that disc until this weekend
15:08.30Fiskerownt
15:08.43Fiskeranyways link me up
15:09.15FiskerYou're still part of that eu trading shit right?
15:09.36hasteno idea
15:09.45hastethink you have to pay toll :p
15:09.57Fiskerbah
15:10.11hastehttp://prisguide.hardware.no/product.php?productId=113276&cat_id=9
15:10.30Fisker7+ dager!1
15:11.22Fiskeralso you're pretty expensive given the extra fees i'll pay
15:11.24Fiskerso QQ :(
15:12.06Fiskerkomplett.dk has it as well i see
15:12.11Fiskerexpected delivery next month
15:12.12FiskerQQ
15:14.13Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic 07BW3 * r600 : Make space for conversion to BigWigs 3
15:14.13Fiskersneaks into haste's pants
15:15.39hasterawr
15:18.03Fiskeri want 3.2.2 tomorrow haste
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15:18.06Fiskeror i WILL destroy you
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15:20.21yoshimothe wowalertpages dont say it will go live
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15:20.51nevcairielit won't, or the US would know already =p
15:21.43Fiskeri want my damn promises kept!
15:21.49hasteFisker: no 3.2.2 tomorrow
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15:24.48Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6198 Core/BossPrototype.lua: bugfix scanning
15:25.45steevvista and 7 users (2008 as well i suppose) - http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Sep/0039.html
15:26.09durcynvhaarr: any plans to update CommonAuras?
15:26.48[Ammo]durcyn: will be updated once we release
15:27.34yoshimo[ammo], it seems that the locales are broken for the latest release of the koralon-module including  a missing en-section
15:27.38Sunwindanyone use Prat, and managed to get the "Display > Tabs" options to work?
15:27.50[Ammo]yoshimo: release or alpha?
15:28.07yoshimoshould be funkys latest release
15:28.15[Ammo]release blah-5?
15:28.26[Ammo]or the fucked up piece of shit releasees -2 to -4 :p
15:28.40[Ammo]you need to be specific
15:28.53[Ammo]because -2 -3 and -4 were fucked up due to a misunderstanding
15:28.57[Ammo]-5 was fixed by vhaar
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15:29.04yoshimoInstalled:r5890-5-release (Released: 2009/09/04)
15:29.15[Ammo]ok
15:29.17[Ammo]what's wrong with it?
15:29.40MikkGrumf. Does anyone know of a sane armor token info addon?
15:29.49MikkMy head is starting to spin from keeping track of too many tiers now
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15:30.33[Ammo]because the -5 release has an empty enUS translation
15:30.37[Ammo]because it doesn't require any
15:32.01[Ammo]yoshimo: if you get an error, paste it somewhere?
15:33.51yoshimoi posted in the bw-topic already that im not sure about the events youre using, there is no berserktimer as far as i know and i dont remember seeing a bar for meteorfists as well
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15:50.12Fiskerold steev
15:51.43Funkeh`~api GetTalent
15:51.44purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetTalent
15:52.05nevcairielYou should use !api, its usually better =p
15:52.12Funkeh`ah is that what it is
15:52.16Funkeh`!api GetTalent
15:52.16lua_botFound 4 possible results for 'GetTalent': GetTalentPrereqs, GetTalentTabInfo, GetTalentInfo, GetTalentLink
15:52.20Funkeh`ty
15:52.44Funkeh`!api GetTalentInfo
15:52.44lua_botGetTalentInfo: Returns information about a talent option (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetTalentInfo)
15:56.10FtH|DaemonaAnyone know an addon that will only do something after a spell was cast successfully?
15:56.24FtH|Daemonai recall some addon like "aftercast" but can't find it.
15:56.52Funkeh`talent info not being available at login isn't useful
15:57.16nevcairiel!addon aftercast
15:57.18lua_botAfterCast (v. AfterCast v0.6-1...) last updated Jul 25 2008</td><td valign=top class=listone style="font-size: 10px;">  (http://is.gd/32q4d)
15:57.39nevcairielHm, wasnt that one of iriels?
15:57.53FtH|Daemona* Post Not Found
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15:58.22nevcairielhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4167
15:58.26nevcairieldont ask me if it still works
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15:59.28sylvanaardo something or say something?
15:59.31FtH|Daemonathere is a fan update from aug'09
15:59.34FtH|Daemonaguess that works
15:59.40FtH|Daemonasay something sylv
15:59.47FtH|Daemonaanything else would need hardware input
15:59.52sylvanaari use castyeller2
16:00.44CrazyBennyFtH|Daemona: stuff with FanUpdate in its name shouldnt be used imo:P
16:00.48Funkeh`anyone good with macros know if there is a way to only cast a spell if you have buff XYZ
16:00.58nevcairielFunkeh`, its not
16:01.02FtH|Daemonathats a conditional macro bad Funkeh` ;)
16:01.10nevcairiel+possible
16:01.11Funkeh`meh
16:01.15sylvanaarFunkeh` i think they closed that exploit
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16:01.29FtH|Daemonaelse you could check debuffs on targets and do one-button-affliction lock macros ;)
16:01.32Funkeh`Im not looking for an exploit ty :)
16:01.53durcynhe's saying the only way it ever worked was that exploit they fixed in 3.2.0a
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16:02.05Funkeh`I see
16:02.13nevcairielwell, that and pre 2.0 :p
16:02.17sylvanaar^^
16:02.29nevcairieland probably some other exploits along the way
16:02.32durcynpre 2.0 is ancient history :/
16:02.41nevcairielI miss it :(
16:02.43sylvanaarit doesnt seem that long ago
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16:02.48Repo090b2c5: Update locals.xml
16:02.59nevcairielNot the unlimited UI that is, more the feeling of the game back then
16:03.07Repoe662b0d: Move locals into their own directory.
16:03.19sylvanaari think that its just gotten old and boring
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16:05.29sylvanaarits like when a really good restaraunt thats locally owned is bought out by a national chain...they keep the name, but its a totally different place
16:05.42Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r115 EnsidiaFails.toc: nolibstrip
16:05.44durcynhigh end raiding was entertaining for a while, but with coliseum i don't even enjoy that anymore
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16:08.02sylvanaarthe content has just been coming out too slowly
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16:09.11Lyset<sylvanaar> its like when a really good restaraunt thats locally owned is bought out by a national chain...they keep the name, but its a totally different place
16:09.18Lysetnow I got sad
16:09.27Lysetmiss my old favorite restaurant
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16:10.37ckknightom nom nom
16:13.04ckknighthey all, I added a "Companions" category on wowace
16:13.12sylvanaar"terrible tuesday"
16:13.31sylvanaarwhat are companions
16:13.37ckknightCombat pets, mounts, and vanity pets
16:13.42sylvanaaro
16:13.52nevcairielckknight, is that the place for the future lap dancers, which obviously won the polls? :p
16:14.05ckknight...yes
16:14.12TorhalI thought it was Doctor Who related.
16:14.16nevcairielalso, whats the progress on those?
16:14.17nevcairiel:D
16:14.22sylvanaari thought he added it to the curse store
16:14.52nevcairielI guess i could buy some with the 500 USD, but where is the fun in that :P
16:15.04yoshimohttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=67534  (hex of mending) says "direct heals", but what is a "indirect heal"? non-hots? heals via beacon of light?
16:15.17sylvanaar....if you have to ask
16:15.31Stanzillahots are no direct heals?
16:15.46sylvanaarpassive heals
16:15.54nevcairielno, hots are no direct heals
16:16.09sylvanaarpassive heals are like shadow priest heals
16:16.23sylvanaaror totems (i guess)
16:16.29yoshimoi dont know what blizzard thinks is a "direct heal" , so im asking
16:16.35Stanzillaa normal casted spell
16:16.38Stanzillalike flash heal
16:16.41sylvanaaror JoL, LoTP
16:16.41nevcairielIndeed
16:17.10yoshimoif i  put beacon of light on the maintank, and heal a meleedps  ,will the heal on the mt trigger hex of mending?
16:17.15Stanzillatake prayer of healing with the glyph for example. you cast it, it lands, that's the direct heal
16:17.18sylvanaardirect means - player A cast heal on player B
16:17.26Stanzillanow the glyph proccs and leaves a hot, that's a "indirect" heal
16:17.52sylvanaaris it?
16:18.01Stanzillait's a hot
16:18.02nevcairielits a hot
16:18.04nevcairielbah :P
16:18.07Stanzilla^^
16:19.10sylvanaarhrm
16:20.11sylvanaarso what are channeled heals
16:20.15sylvanaarhots?
16:20.31Zeksiecannibilize is one
16:20.40Zeksiebandage
16:20.42nevcairielHm, probably not a direct heal in that sense
16:20.51nevcairielBut who knows
16:21.17sylvanaarpennance, tranquility
16:21.35sylvanaari guess they arent direct
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16:22.19Repo5b09072: Fix a typo.
16:22.23Repof7ac4ed: Update code to reflect ace3 libs. 100% dry-coded, no testing.  Will do that tonight if I remember. :P
16:22.26Repo59ab3b6: Convert packages and localization to ace3.
16:22.38yoshimowould a gm tell you more or just say"we cant tell you about gamemechanics"?
16:23.20sylvanaarpost on the forums
16:23.27Stanzillalol eu forums :/
16:23.33sylvanaaroh eu
16:23.44sylvanaaryou guys probably get to actually talk to the gms
16:23.47Fiskerherro ckknight
16:23.59ckknighthey Fisker
16:24.49Fiskerhides
16:24.57Fiskeri want a new hdd
16:25.04Fiskerbut a new hdd doesn't want me (apparently)
16:25.13sylvanaarSSD!
16:27.08Fiskerthat would be the same story sylvanaar
16:27.21Fiskereven if i would want the cancer that's killing pc's
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16:28.37Megalonlet's hope you get the cancer killing trolls
16:29.30Fiskeri'm not a very effectived diseasesbearer Megalon
16:29.37Fiskerso the cancer wouldn't kill anything
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16:44.10steevhttp://i29.tinypic.com/21llx0w.jpg
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16:49.42sb|workmhhhh
16:50.21sb|workare there t9.258 tokens in  totc25hero bosses? or is it anub chest only?
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16:50.33LienneOnly the chest
16:51.21sb|workmhh okay thanks
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16:59.21Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r109 / (4 files in 4 directories):
16:59.24RepoProperly handles weapon enchants for shamans now and should correctly detect and replace existing weapon enchants should you change weapon buff options (needs localizing to CN/TW/KR). Will also detect when new rank is available and prompt to replace the old one.
16:59.27RepoFixed second click definition not being shown for Arcane Intellect/PW:F.
16:59.30RepoStopped buff scan happening so soon after zoning. Now waits a few seconds.
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17:12.02ckknight~seen hunterz
17:12.06purlckknight: i haven't seen 'hunterz'
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17:20.31asmodaiok, so with the Twins fight, what do the orbs do that are flying around when they reach one of the lasses?
17:20.44NeoTrontickle them
17:20.48asmodaiteeheeehee
17:21.21yoshimodmg ig they are the wrong color
17:21.25yoshimo*if
17:21.45asmodaiThe val'kyr or the raid members?
17:23.23yoshimoraidmembers are dmged by the small orbs  i think
17:23.46asmodaiFunny, was watching this Ensidia video of their battle and people ran into the orbs willingly
17:24.57yoshimoif they have the same attunement like you(dark/light) they dont deal dmg to you, do they?
17:25.22asmodaiahhh,so you attune yourself to a colour
17:25.59yoshimoby clicking on the floating thing yes
17:26.08Zekcollecting orbs gives stacks, 100 stacks gives 100% dmg buff for 20 secs.
17:26.21asmodaiAhh ok
17:27.14Pneumatus^hmm, have CC downloads been throttled to hell or is my connection playing up?
17:27.43Pneumatus^must only be getting like 15k/s
17:28.55phyberwonders why GameTooltip doesn't want to play
17:29.18phyberlooks like i have to :SetOwner() on it all the time.  thought it might keep its previous owner.
17:29.29phyberdoing :SetOwner takes it away from my nice CowTip location.
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17:35.40Repo63d6d7c: convert database docs to wiki instead of creole since I'm too lazy to do conversion.
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17:41.35ShirikI will hurt Ammo next time I see him
17:41.43[Ammo]cool
17:41.45[Ammo]come and get it
17:41.47Shirikthere you are!
17:41.50[Ammo]what?
17:41.57Shirikyour commit message is evil
17:42.02[Ammo]why is it evil?
17:42.11Shirik"bugfix"? Provides no useful statement at all ><
17:42.26[Ammo]cba to type a useful statement at this point :p
17:42.35[Ammo]since it's a typical bugfix we've been doing for days now
17:42.44[Ammo]ever since we converted bigwigs to ace3
17:42.59[Ammo]this one did give a nice message though to fix ;p
17:43.15[Ammo]Module "Mimiron" tried to schedule an event for BigWigs_Message, but it doesn't exist.
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17:50.29FtH|Daemonaammo? anub module isnt resetting the berserk bar after a wipe ;)
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17:59.18Shadowedckknight: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libhealcomm-4-0/ is bugged and not creating branches, tried last night and tried again today and it's not working
17:59.23asmodainevcairiel: So was that green frame thinghy displacement of the totem bar a Blizzard bug of bt4? I forgot what you answered >_<
17:59.39nevcairielit probably is, but i cba to fix it yet
17:59.43nevcairielits not blocking any functionality
17:59.57asmodaiplaces a hex on nevcairiel
17:59.57asmodai:P
17:59.58nevcairielShadowed: "not creating branches"?
18:00.23Shadowederrr
18:00.25Shadowedtags not branches
18:01.24ShadowedIt broke and didn't let me create a new tag last time too actually :<
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18:03.15Gnarfoznevcairiel: one of the less tech-savvy people in my guild keeps whining that his bt4 button lock is broken on one of his characters ;o he says he can drag abilities off the bars with lock & lock buttons enabled, without holding shift
18:03.40nevcairielCan you?
18:04.15nevcairielThe logic for that thing is so easy, there is no way it only breaks for one char
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18:04.50asmodainevcairiel: I cannot at least.
18:05.51Gnarfoznevcairiel: is that stored somewhere? could I make him send me his SV? or something? he also says that (not sure if that's only on that character) the "lock" checkbox keeps resetting to the unchecked state (the bars are not actually unlocked, apparently just visual?)... and no he's not on Vista, so hopefully not permission problems ^^
18:06.05taledenhow come curse's file download count sometimes goes down when I refresh the page?
18:06.13nevcairielI believe its using the blizzard unlock cvar
18:06.15nevcairielor something
18:06.23nevcairielchecks
18:06.39GnarfozI made him check that one, too, no difference
18:07.34nevcairiel!api modifiedclick
18:07.34lua_botFound 5 possible results for 'modifiedclick': GetNumModifiedClickActions, GetModifiedClickAction, IsModifiedClick, GetModifiedClick, SetModifiedClick
18:07.48nevcairieltell him to do /dump GetModifiedClick("PICKUPACTION")
18:08.02nevcairielit should say shift
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18:18.54taledenany wowace forum mods about?
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18:27.41Shadowedaha there we go
18:44.11GhanHey Shadowed, have you ever made a list of which class uses which diminishing return cathegory while creating DRData?
18:45.16GhanOr anyone else :o
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18:49.32sb|workbah, borders are evil
18:50.08Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v3.5 * r117 : Tagging as v3.5
18:50.11RepoBug fix for event callbacks...     also documentation changes for the website.
18:54.47ckknightGhan: Shadowed is gone
18:54.55ckknightsb|work: howso?
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19:02.01Gnarfoznevcairiel: oh, thanks. will do!
19:02.06Gnarfoznevcairiel: (he's not here right now)
19:03.05spodeeu login server down? :(
19:03.27sb|workyep
19:03.35sb|workbattle.net works
19:06.28Ghanchknight: You're quite right
19:06.38Pneumatusvhaarr: dunno if you know/care, but the default bars config window thingy's background is smaller than the widgets inside
19:06.41Ghanperhaps I should shout and make him come back?
19:06.45ckknightlearn to tab complete, ghan
19:07.15Pneumatusvhaarr: and width stretching seems to constrain the widgets, but height stretching doesnt seem to do much
19:07.48GhanI'm terribly sorry
19:07.54asmodaiwell, grid's hide minimap button also works wonderful >_<
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19:10.26Pneumatusvhaarr: just a passing comment as well, it might be nice to have bosses ordered in the dropdowns for configuration based on their kill order, rather than alphabetical
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19:17.08FtH|DaemonaAntiarc read the imvox stuff in the BB?
19:17.13AntiarcYup
19:17.24AntiarcThey're gonna either get the hole patched or C&D'd
19:17.25Antiarcguarantee it
19:17.34Shefkiimvox?
19:17.52steevsigh, how does one get alterac blitz :/
19:18.48FtH|DaemonaIt's just insane they really modulate the data into quickly changing the date
19:19.00AntiarcMessing with system time is bad juju, first off
19:19.06FtH|Daemonathat must have thought about screwing with file read/write/change on a windows level ..
19:19.09Fiskerslaps Antiarc around a bit with a large trout
19:19.12FtH|Daemonaor rather OS level
19:19.15AntiarcAnd second off, it's obviously a violation of the TOS and a circumvention of what Blizzard has specfically done
19:19.16FtH|Daemonathats beyond insane
19:19.46Stanzillawhat what
19:19.50Stanzillalinks please :P
19:19.51Fiskerwat are we talking about?
19:20.09FtH|Daemonastanzilla do you have an elitist jerks benefactors account? if not, it wont help you to link it ;)
19:20.20Fiskerwrite it down
19:20.20Stanzillanope :(
19:20.21Fiskerpost it
19:20.26Fiskerit's easyyyyyyy
19:21.17FtH|Daemonahttp://ace.pastey.net/124850
19:21.20FtH|Daemonathere you go
19:22.16FtH|Daemonahttp://imvox.com/ Shefki
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19:22.40durcynhow amazingly retarded that is.
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19:23.24Fiskeri agree
19:23.35asmodaimitch0: added feedback
19:24.52sb|workand another 1000000 players switching to battle.net
19:24.55sb|workthats how it works... :p
19:25.51steevgrrr
19:26.02steevi afk'd out of an AV because a customer woudln't get off the phone
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19:34.07Zekanyone know of a proc scoring addon? something to say NN% of your proc potential is up, this is what was up when you last cast rupture/diseases whatever.. you should refresh. bla bla ?
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19:38.57ShefkiSo is there a replacement for LoggerHead that doesn't completely and utterly fail with the new instance size/difficulty stuff?
19:39.17Brunerskek
19:39.22Bruners2138.47| [Catakey] < Congratulations player! You have been selected among thousands of players on your server  to win Alpha Key to upcoming Cataclysm Expansion, Use this code E89B-HCB1ZG-U94T2- LQW67Z-R25D on redeem site www.alpha-battle.net.tc Yours Bli
19:39.35nevcairiellol
19:40.02nevcairielI've been getting an increased number of fake "account under review" mails too, this week.
19:40.39BorloxI never got a scam mail from "Blizzard" )-:
19:40.58nevcairielremind me to forward you some :P
19:41.22Borlox=> borlox@worldofwar.de
19:41.24Borlox(-;
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19:41.58Zeksiehad 6 scam mails this week.
19:42.36rubikShefki: oh, does LoggerHead fail with heroics? is that why it didn't log our 10-man heroic after we did the 10-man regular ToC last week? hmm...
19:42.54NivFreakhrmm
19:43.00NivFreakI wonder if we could do a 10 druid naxx-10
19:43.13rubikhah.. i don't see why not
19:43.20Shefkirubik: It says it was updated for 3.2 but I still have Trial of the Crusade and Ulduar in Unclassified, with only checkboxes for 5 man and 5 man heroic.
19:43.27NivFreakdispell/purge is my concern, but aside from trash I'm coming up short
19:43.48Repo10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 04v1.3.0 * r42 : Tagging as v1.3.0
19:43.51Repo- Added support for DK ghouls (untalented ones)
19:43.54Repo- Added (partial) support for Shaman elementals (spirit wolves take precedence over elementals)
19:44.02rubikShefki: let me double-check if it logged our 10-man heroic ToC actually
19:44.07mitchnullasmodai: thanks for the test
19:44.18rubikit might have been WoL-fail and not LoggerHead-fail
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19:46.07mitchnullshefki: how would one go about implementing a "bar provider for PB4"? (see http://www.wowace.com/addons/pet-time-to-live/tickets/2-integration-with-pb4/)
19:46.36mitchnullalso, how does one kill the friggin automatic updates reminder to restart my computer? (apart from restarting, of course...)
19:46.37rubikhmm.. just checked logs and LoggerHead definitely didn't log (or prompt me to log) 10-man heroic ToC, so you're right Shefki
19:47.49rubikmitchnull: which OS? there's a registry tweak to disable the auto reboot for xp.. i think it's automatically turned off (it just nags) for vista, iirc
19:47.53Shefkimitchnull: Really all you need is a Bar module.  Just look at one of the other bar modules.  Basically all you have to do is just provide a couple pretty simple functions.
19:48.42mitchnullshefki: still, it'd be better to do it in a separate addon, right?
19:49.22Shefkimitchnull: Doesn't really matter.
19:49.27mitchnullshefki: which bar module do you recommend for sane and simple example?
19:49.50mitchnullrubik: xp
19:50.37ShefkiReputation is probably the simpilest one.
19:50.47Pneumatusmy loggerhead logs heroics, no idea how i've got it set up
19:51.19netcurse2authors get your key first if you wanna play League of legend
19:51.22netcurse2http://www.curse.com/keys/legends-na-premium/default.aspx
19:51.26mitchnullshefki: are there any standalone "plugins" or all are part of PB?
19:51.33Pneumatusamerica only?
19:51.35netcurse2EU give away= http://www.curse.com/keys/legends-eu-premium/default.aspx
19:51.39Pneumatusaha
19:52.45nevcairieltheir website is "lol-europe.com" .. thats hilarious :P
19:53.01NivFreakrubik: what I noticed from loggehead, was that it only prompted me for 1 of the difficulties per zone, and disabled the rest ;)
19:53.14NivFreakrubik: and I had to set them manually
19:53.30rubikyeah, seems like that's what it's doing
19:53.32Shefkimitchnull: Umm I think there are a couple, but for all practical purposes the included modules are separate addons now.
19:53.44ShefkiNivFreak: Umm I can't even turn them on.  It still thinks Ulduar isn't an instance.
19:53.51rubiklooking into how to manually set 10-man heroic ToC to on now
19:53.58ShefkiSo it only gives me the option to set 5 and 5 man heroic for it.
19:54.08NivFreakShefki: works for me
19:54.11ShefkiOddly, it loggs Ulduar fine.
19:54.18ShefkiNivFreak: I don't see how.
19:54.33NivFreakthere are only 2 versions of ulduar
19:54.39NivFreaknormal / heroic
19:54.44ShefkiNivFreak: Right.
19:54.48NivFreak10 / 25
19:54.49NivFreakit works
19:54.54ShefkiBut the options shouldn't be 5 man and 5 man heroic.
19:55.00ShefkiAnd it shouldn't be in Unclassified.
19:55.06rubiki did notice that the 10-man ToC is named the same exact thing for normal/heroic
19:55.12rubikso maybe that's why it didn't even prompt me?
19:55.25rubikbut it definitely didn't log anything heroic-ToC
19:55.59NivFreakit did the same thing for 25man for me
19:56.00asmodaimitchnull: Hope it helped :)
19:56.03NivFreakI just opened it up and checked it
19:56.05NivFreakand it worked fine
19:56.25rubiklet me try that but i wonder what it would put in the SV
19:56.47asmodaivhaarr: wrt reagents & Fortress, found out what it is. It's the lack of an icon, yet somehow space for an icon gets reserved, causing the text to be offset to the right
19:56.49rubikbecause i only see ["Trial of the Crusader"] = { true, } there
19:57.20mitchnullasmodai: yeah, thanks. just dunno what to do with those totems and spirit wolves... should I create a new frame for totems ...?
19:57.48Fiskerlol netcurse2
19:57.52Fisker"lol-europe"
19:57.53Fiskeri lol'd
19:58.13asmodaimitchnull: my pitbull already has a countdown timer at the top of my portrait
19:58.23asmodaimitchnull: If I only use earth/fire, no problem, shows up fine
19:58.31asmodaitotem + spirit wolves = 2 pets
19:59.14mitchnullasmodai: what timer is that? for totems or for pets?
19:59.20mitchnull(the PB one)
19:59.50asmodaimitchnull: pitbull has a small space at the top of the player frame where it shows all four elemental totems' countdown
19:59.59asmodaiZhinjio: Got a new one for ya ;)
20:00.01mitchnullah
20:00.05ShefkiOk found the problem.
20:00.12ShefkiLibTourist hasn't been tagged.
20:00.18mitchnullso the ticket would be just for pets then
20:00.42asmodaimitchnull: Yeah, for me it would be double, since the totem timer shows the time the totem has left.
20:00.51asmodaithe spirit wolves aren't tracked though.
20:01.54asmodaiZhinjio: with broker_allstats, if you move the display block too far down the screen to fix your layout and you then want to grab it, the entire popup window obscures the block, so you cannot drag it back anymore XD
20:02.14Shefkickknight: ping
20:02.48ckknightShefki: pong
20:03.09Shefkickknight: tag LibTourest-3.0 as a release.
20:03.44ckknightwill do.
20:04.32Repo10libtourist-3-0: 03ckknight 04WoW-3.2-release * r90 : Tagging as WoW-3.2-release
20:05.31Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r232 RaidDebuffs/Grid2StatusRaidDebuffs.lua: Missing wotlk instances
20:05.31RepoMore commenting of ids
20:05.31RepoDeleted some obsolete ids
20:06.52mitchnulllolwut, a git clone of PB4 takes almost as much as updating all my other addons :P
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20:08.53ckknightmitchnull: time, you mean?
20:08.56ckknightor what?
20:08.58rubikoh, interesting.. so i manually checked 10-man heroic and 25-man normal/heroic in LoggerHead and now the SV file looks like this: ["Trial of the Crusader"] = { true, true, true, true, } (i.e. 4 check marks instead of just the first (10-man normal))
20:09.12mitchnullckk: yep
20:09.19mitchnull(exagerated a bit of course)
20:09.33Shefkirubik: My problem was LibTourist wasn't flagged as released so I still had an old version of it.
20:09.47ckknightmitchnull: k. Yea, git's not the most efficient for downloading. If you want fast speeds, get the zips.
20:09.47asmodaiLibTourette
20:09.58Shefkimitchnull: *shrug* I worked on it a lot this week.
20:10.34rubikShefki: oh, i still think it has an issue (because it never prompted on first zone-in to 10-man heroic ToC) but if the manual-SV-file-edit workaround logs it, that's fine
20:10.37mitchnullyeah, I know. I just wanted to check out some stuff to see how to write a module for it
20:11.24Shefkirubik: That may be.  *shrug*
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20:15.10mitchnullhrmp, I give up. reboot
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20:18.57Shefkirubik: LoggerHead has always been a bit bad about prompting correctly.
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20:21.04rubiki posted a quick blurb in the LoggerHead thread in case others run into the same thing: http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=288130&postcount=59
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20:28.25mitchnullis there any point in using "local SomeFunc = _G.SomeFunc" over "local SomeFunc = SomeFunc" ? (done only once at top of .lua)
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20:29.20asmodairofl @ http://konni.evil-geni.us/wow/UI.png
20:29.47taledenmitchnull: if you're sure there's no "local SomeFunc" that might mask the global, then no, except the one without _G is negligibly faster
20:30.17Pneumatusnetcurse2: i can't get an EU key for league of legends :<
20:30.32mitchnulltaleden: thanks
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20:35.16Zhinjioasmodai: I'm not sure I understand what you mean
20:36.28taleden"local x=1; local function f(g) setfenv(g, getfenv(1)) end"   why doesn't this let g() see x?
20:36.53Pneumatusvhaarr/ammo, loads of missing translations for the sarth module
20:36.56taledengetfenv(1) inside f() should return the environment of function f(), which can see x, but it's not working for me
20:37.13Pneumatusalthough apparently the errors are from the emalon module...
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20:38.32ckknighttaleden: x is an upvalue, not on any table.
20:38.47taledenbut isn't it still part of f()'s environment?
20:38.51ckknightno
20:38.55Repo10xpbarnone: 03phyber 07master * v1.4.6-9-gc2b51d4 / (6 files in 2 directories): [+9 commits] (5 truncated)
20:38.58Repoc2b51d4: Fix profile support. Fix issue with :SetWidth.
20:39.01Repo5e51eaa: Fix auto watching rep.
20:39.01ckknightfenv is the environment table
20:39.03Repo31829bb: More font fixes.
20:39.06ckknightupvalues are different
20:39.06Repo86d4595: Make font options work. Another fix for weird font issues in rep menu.
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20:39.24taledenso if 'local x = x' was inside f(), then it would work?
20:39.36ckknightno
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20:39.59ckknightsetfenv(g, { x = x })
20:40.01ckknightthat would work
20:40.11taledenhm
20:40.40taledenso there's no way to setfenv() a loadstring() to actually give it the current environment
20:40.44Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6200 / (2 files in 2 directories): bugfix 2 schedules
20:40.47taledenwithout knowing every symbol and redefining it on a table?
20:41.06ckknightcurrent environment is the union of the env table and all locals and upvalues
20:41.11ckknightyou can set its env table
20:41.27Repo10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm 04v4.11 * r133 : Tagging as v4.11
20:41.38taledenboo
20:41.39taledenthanks
20:42.47ckknightit's easier in python
20:42.50ckknightlocals() and globals()
20:42.51ckknight:P
20:43.11taledennever worked with python, always sounded interesting but never had a reason
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20:46.21asmodaiis there a way to toggle grid to show a test mode for a full 25 man raid?
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20:50.46Sunwindwhen you click on your own character, or other characters, they seem to "light up", is there an addon or something which permanently keeps your character "lit up" no matter if you are selecting yourself or not?
20:51.56Borloxisn't there a cvar for that? something like ambientLight or characterAmbient or so
20:53.59pentium166<PROTECTED>
20:55.04vhaarrasmodai: ah
20:55.13vhaarrasmodai: well that is, like I already said, a Fortress bug
20:55.24Borloxwhat's a Fortress bug?
20:55.31vhaarrPneumatus: I know about the configure issues
20:55.46vhaarrPneumatus: order in dropdowns will never be kill, always alphabetical
20:56.05phyberBorlox: one where your intestinator fails.
20:56.11vhaarrdurcyn: I'll update commonauras when the core is in a more stable state
20:57.25StanzillaCaleb|: http://ace.pastey.net/124860
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20:58.03Pneumatusvhaarr: and locale errors on sartharion (with the error message being reported to the emalon mod)?
20:58.11Pneumatusmissing enUS strings
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20:58.28vhaarrPneumatus: could you give me the errors?
20:58.37Pneumatusyeh, just reloading as i cleared bugsac
20:58.38asmodaiBorlox__: with the reagents broker addon the text was moving out of the bounding box
20:59.03asmodaiBorlox: found out that it is due to the missing icon of reagents and the space being reserved for it within Fortress
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21:00.02Superfly_hey
21:00.07Caleb|could you open a ticket plz Stanzilla im quite busy with other stuff atm
21:00.09Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2451 ARLDatamine.lua: Fix up the specialty check
21:00.29Superfly_is anyone working on bigwigs commonauras for bigwigs3.0? or is there any chance it will be ported?
21:00.44vhaarrgah fine
21:00.49vhaarrI'll port it today
21:01.01Superfly_cheers :)
21:01.35Pneumatusvhaarr: is it likely that vesparaon add not giving F+S is related to the missing locales?
21:01.48Superfly_and one more question, the previous version of bigwigs left a message in my chatwindow that someone had a debuff, for example Burning bile: xy
21:02.08Superfly_i just didnt find an option to enable it, or it is not possible at all?
21:02.19vhaarrSuperfly_: you need to rethink your view on the world
21:02.29vhaarryou question is fundamentally flawed
21:02.41vhaarrPneumatus: is it possible you could give me the errors, please
21:02.59Pneumatusvhaarr: as soon as i've got them i will
21:03.05vhaarrthanks
21:03.38vhaarrSuperfly_: "previous version", what do you mean by that, exactly?
21:03.46Superfly_i mean im testing bigwigs 3.0 atm
21:04.11Superfly_and the previous version was the current stable 5890(at least its on the curse)
21:04.15vhaarrSuperfly_: yes you are, which means you're running an alpha version, and nothing is finalized at the moment
21:04.33Superfly_alright, thanks for your time
21:05.16vhaarrSuperfly_: if what you're asking is "will the 'Output to chat frame' option be added back before the next release?', the answer is yes.
21:06.01Superfly_thanks, thats what I need :)
21:07.28Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2452 ARLDatamine.lua: fixed the rest of the SPECIALTY_CHECK table.
21:09.55Pneumatusvhaarr: http://paste.wowace.com/1109/
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21:10.20Pneumatuscan paste the full errors if you need
21:10.31vhaarrPneumatus: and you're fighting sartharion?
21:10.34Pneumatusyes
21:10.45Pneumatusand sarth is the only module active according to the ldb tooltip
21:11.18vhaarrPneumatus: give one error with full stack
21:11.48taledeninteresting.. UnitBuff() is faster than UnitAura() for searching by numeric index, but UnitAura() is faster for searching by aura name
21:11.52Pneumatushttp://paste.wowace.com/1110/ for the first one vhaarr
21:13.06vhaarrwhat what what
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21:14.28vhaarrwho the hell converted this northrend to AL3
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21:16.45Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6201 Northrend (3 files in 1 directory): Make your locale references local, please.
21:16.59vhaarrPneumatus: any chance you could try again, I don't really think that commit fixed it, but maybe
21:17.25Pneumatuswe're about to kill him im afraid :<
21:17.29vhaarralright
21:17.36ckknight__the sky is green
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21:21.10Shefkitaleden: I think any differences you're seeing are coincidental, UnitBuff is just a wrapper now.
21:22.14Zeksienot entirely true
21:22.31Zeksieie: you can't do UnitAura(unit, AuraName, filter). it won't find any
21:23.05Zeksiemmm. just proved myself wrong.
21:23.17ShefkiZeksie: UnitAura(unit, AuraName, nil, filter)
21:23.18Zeksieignore that..
21:23.19ShefkiIIRC
21:23.25ShefkiOr something like that.
21:23.32ShefkiThe nil is for the rank.
21:23.55ShefkiIf you try to pass the filter in the rank spot it's obviously not going to work.
21:24.11Zeksiethat could be it
21:25.12ShefkiUnfortunately, the documentation makes it seem that the rank is optional, but if you're using the name and you want to use a filter you have to pass soemthing for the rank.
21:26.02Zeksieyes. index then filter, or name, rank and filter
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21:30.59taledenShefki: coincidental or not they don't seem intermittent, I ran the comparison three times with 50-100k calls each, and the difference was 50% in both cases, every time
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21:33.34asmodaiAntiarc: What might cause SexyMap to stop displaying on-hover buttons?
21:33.49pentium166Anyone know if it's possible to remove the : after player names in the chat window?
21:34.42Zeksieget chatter or something. can format pretty much anything
21:35.44taledenah wait, I stand corrected -- the difference isn't UnitAura vs. UnitBuff, it's in passing a filter (even if its the default "HELPFUL") vs passing only 2 args
21:36.53Zeksiewell, without a filter it'll search all auras i beleive
21:37.03Zeksiecos it still worked when i did UnitAura("player","buff")
21:37.06Zeksiecame back with one
21:37.12taledenit assumes HELPFUL
21:37.17taledenif you do UnitAura(player,debuff) it'll get nothing
21:37.23Zeksieright
21:37.43taledenso it searches the same number of auras as UnitBuff in that case
21:38.06ShefkiUnitAura is you pass it no filter searches all aurs.
21:38.15taledenno, searches buffs
21:38.35ShefkiI know you're wrong, I myself thought it behaved the way you described but you're wrong.
21:38.53taledenhm
21:38.56ShefkiI know people are using UnitAura(unit, name) to look for buffs and debuffs in LuaTexts.
21:39.08taledenwhat about UnitAura(unit,index) ?
21:39.09ShefkiAnd for the longest time I thought it wasn't possible.  But I tested it and it does search both.
21:39.21ShefkiNot sure never tested that specificially.
21:39.27ShefkiI'd imagine probably just buffs.
21:39.47taledenso again the wowwiki doc is kind of correct but misleading
21:39.50ShefkiBecuase the indexes are only by buffs and debuffs.
21:39.54taledenit does assume HELPFUL if you're searching by index
21:39.56Arrowmastertekkub: why is tekKompare.toc executable?
21:40.27Shefkitaleden: That makes sense in the context that the index means soemthing and outside of buffs or debuffs it is meaningless (SetUnitBuff() etc for tooltips)
21:40.41taledenright, and because there could be both a buff#1 and debuff#1 so it has to pick one
21:40.49ShefkiYeah.
21:40.55taledenbut then we're back to, UnitBuff() is faster than UnitAura() by name, because you can omit the filter if you only want to look at buffs, and omitting the filter is faster
21:41.10taledenbut they're the same by index if you omit UnitAura()'s filter
21:41.44ShefkiThat doesn't make sense based on what we just went over.
21:41.49ShefkiUnitAura by name is buffs and debuffs.
21:41.54ShefkiUnitAura by id is buffs
21:41.58taledenyes
21:42.12taledenso if you only want to look at buffs by name, UnitBuff(unit,name) is faster than UnitAura(unit,name,"HELPFUL")
21:42.28taledenor rather UnitAura(unit,name,nil,"HELPFUL")
21:42.54taledenbut with indecies it assumes HELPFUL so you can do UnitAura(unit,index) == UnitBuff(unit,index) and they're the same speed
21:43.36Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6202 Core (2 files in 1 directory):
21:43.38RepoDon't spam the boss enabled message whenever you get in/out of combat.
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21:50.58mitchnullshefki: how would I add a new luatext provider? or you can just call any random function from luatexts?
21:52.12mitchnullshefki: also, I couldn't get the pet frame to show for DK's ghoul. is that normal?
21:52.44mitchnullalso, I cannot reconnect to wow :(
21:53.40AckisPneumatus: http://www.curse.com/keys/legends-eu-premium/default.aspx <-- were you able to get that key?
21:53.49Pneumatusits sorted itself now
21:53.50Pneumatusyes
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21:55.11mitchnullah, nevermind the second one... ghouls are totems
21:56.14Fiskerslaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout
21:56.18FiskerAckismen
21:56.56Ackissup Fiskergirl
21:57.05Fiskerslaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout
21:57.06Fiskerslaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout
21:57.14mitchnullanyone else having issues with auth/dsiconnect on eu realms?
21:57.31Fiskerbattle.net ftw
21:58.30Fiskergentlemen
21:58.31Fiskergoodnight
21:59.47Hjaltemitchnull: Yes.
22:00.05mitchnulldamn
22:00.08robotuschFisker :(
22:00.16mitchnullfisker broke it
22:00.18robotuschgogo 4 rogues with 10k+ dps
22:00.41mitchnull~alert
22:00.42purlI'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons...
22:00.52mitchnullfu
22:01.57Dessa~wowalert
22:01.58purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
22:02.34mitchnullthanks ;)
22:02.38mitchnulldidn't help though :(
22:03.50Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6203 Ulduar/Freya.lua:
22:03.53RepoLolhacks to stop Freya enabling again after she does her defeat yell.
22:08.00mitchnullis there a way to check if a bar is enabled for any of the visible unit frames in PB4?
22:14.42taledenif you enter an arena against 5 stealthed rogues, do the arena1..5 ids return anything until they appear?
22:32.32Pneumatustaleden: nop
22:33.07taledenis it possible for i.e. arena3 to appear first, or are they assigned in order of appearance to the client?
22:33.07Pneumatusyou need to wait for a ARENA_OPPONENT_UPDATE with arg3 == seen, iirc
22:33.09Stanzilla140k raid dps on the STARS anub kill
22:33.11Stanzillaw t f
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22:33.40Kalrothlots of AoE damage does that
22:33.50Pneumatuspretty sure the unitid's are pre-determined and can be seen in any order
22:34.26taledenso to limit scanning, i'd have to watch for zoning into/out of arena, and then any token up to the arena size could appear at any time
22:34.36Fiskerenrages
22:35.26Pneumatuswatch for ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA/PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD then check select(2, IsInInstance()) == "arena"
22:35.42taledenok
22:35.44taledenwhat about shadowmelded hunters?  could arenapet3 appear before arena3?
22:35.45Pneumatusalthough you probably want a local flag to unregister events when you leave an arena
22:35.56Fiskerslaps Pneumatus around a bit with a large trout
22:36.06taledenwell in this case arena tokens aren't the only ones i'm looking at
22:36.10Pneumatusumm, good question
22:36.14Pneumatusdunno :o
22:36.42taledenbut iiuc I can't rely on unit_target to update arena#target, arenapet#target, so i just need to minimize the work in OnUpdate
22:36.47Pneumatusi only ever looked at arena%d unitid's
22:36.59taledenor maybe that's not true in arena.. I know unit_target doesn't fire for party members if they're too far away for example
22:37.19Pneumatusgladius always knows whos got what targetted
22:37.25Pneumatusso it must be possible
22:37.33taledenyes, but I think it requires onupdate scanning
22:38.09taledenat least it does for party and raid targets as soon as you get out of range of them, like in AV
22:38.24taledenbecause no event fires when you go out of range, so you don't know when you stop getting UNIT_TARGET, so you always have to scan with onupdate
22:44.51taledenis there a function to get the team size of the arena the player is in?
22:50.14Shefkitaleden: There's a way to get it but I don't remember what it is.
22:50.22ShefkiIt's probably tacked on some Battleground function.
22:50.45taleden~api IsActiveBattlefieldArena()
22:50.46purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsActiveBattlefieldArena()
22:51.14taledengives if-arena and if-registered-match, IsInInstance() also gives if-arena, can't find a current-arena-size function :(
22:51.49ulic!api GetArenaTeam
22:51.49lua_botGetArenaTeam: Returns information about one of the player's arena teams (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetArenaTeam)
22:52.34Shefki!api GetBattlefieldStatus
22:52.35lua_botGetBattlefieldStatus: Returns information about an active or queued battleground/arena instance (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBattlefieldStatus)
22:52.48ShefkiLast parameter is teamSize
22:53.02taledenaha
22:53.21taledenthat hits queues too though, so I guess I need status=="active", then teamSize
22:53.46Shefkitaleden: Yup
22:53.49taledenthanks
22:54.38Shefkifor i = 1, MAX_BATTLEFIELD_QUES do local status, _, _, _, _, teamSize = GetBattleFieldStatus(i) if status == "active and teamSize > 0 then currentArenaSize = teamSize break end end
22:54.49taledenyeah, just noticed I'll have to call it 3 times :(
22:54.49ulicin other news, who killed the repo?
22:55.15Shefkihelps if you spell QUEUES right but you get the idea.
22:57.58taledendo I need ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA or is PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD sufficient?
23:02.11NivFreakI keep seeing mentions of a soulstone nerf/hotfix, but can't find specifics
23:02.15ShefkiZONE_CHANGED_NEW_ARNEA, 2nd argument will be "arena" when you join an arena
23:02.16NivFreakanyone know anything about it?
23:02.20ShefkiSo that's probably the correct way to do it.
23:02.40ShefkiDamn I can't type today.
23:02.42ArrowmasterShefki: since when does ZCNA have arguments?
23:02.50ShefkiErr I mean.
23:02.55ShefkiIsInInstance() 2nd argument.
23:02.56taledenShefki: does that fire less often than P_E_W, or does P_E_W not always fire for entering/exiting arena?
23:03.45Shefki*shrug* ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA shouldn't fire as often I don't believe.
23:03.53ShefkiDon't think it fires when you log in, but I could be wrong.
23:03.58ShefkiAnd you can't log into an arena.
23:04.07Stanzillaare the svn repos down? :o
23:04.09taledencan you dc in an arena and come back? or does it boot you instantly?
23:04.23Arrowmasterit should fire more often since it fires when you move from one zone to another
23:04.25ShefkiPretty sure it boots you istantly.
23:04.26ArcharodimI can't push using Git either...
23:04.58taledenyeah, I would have thought PEW would be less common, only between instances/continents/login
23:05.07Arrowmasterbut i think there might be some race conditions with PEW and IsInInstance(), used to be i think but it was rare
23:05.07taledenso if PEW always fires on entering/exiting arena that seems better for my purpose
23:05.12taledenhm
23:05.14Arrowmasterso ZCNA was more reliable
23:05.35taledenwell since I need the size too I'm using GetBattlefieldStatus instead of IsInInsatnce
23:05.41taledensame problem you think?
23:05.53ArrowmasterZCNA will fire after PEW
23:06.17taledenso I guess that's safer, it's not much code on this event anyway so doing it between regular zones is probably fine
23:06.48Shefkitaleden: Considering if the 2nd return from IsInInstance isn't arena you're done I'd think it doesn't really matter.
23:07.28taledenagreed, but again I have to use GetBattlefieldStatus() instead or in addition, because I need the size
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23:07.32Fiskerslaps Shefki around a bit with a large trout
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23:16.04Arrowmasterwhere does ckknight keep running off to and hiding from us?
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23:28.27Gnarfozis there any profile support left in bigwigs pre-alpha build disabling?
23:28.31Gnarfoz(i.e. 6035)
23:29.38vhaarryes but profile changes aren't applied until you reload
23:33.49NeoTronvhaarr: "You have changed your profile. The change won't take effect until you reload. Do you want to reload now? [Reload Now] [Reload Later]"
23:34.01NeoTronthen you can pop up a reminder that grabs the input every 10 minutes
23:34.14vhaarrNeoTron: "we're porting it to ace3, why would I bother with adding that to the last release branch"
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23:34.41vhaarrbut it has been considered
23:34.42NeoTron./joke
23:34.51vhaarractually making the profile change work in the next release, I mean
23:35.22NeoTronanyhow I was just thinking you could take a great example of horrid UI experience and implent it in WoW for a true windows experience
23:35.25NeoTroneven for mac players
23:35.30vhaarr:P
23:35.38vhaarrah now I get it
23:35.41vhaarrkeep in mind I don't use windows
23:35.52vhaarrso it has been a long time since I saw the windows update reboot dialog
23:35.53NeoTron"I @#$@$# told you I will restart later, stop fricking bugging me stupid button. I'm raiding!"
23:36.17NeoTronthat and virus update dialogs are the bane of gaming in windows
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23:38.06vhaarrdid you see this http://quaoar.ww7.be/ms_fud_of_the_year/569458-microsoft-attack-linux-retail-level-probably.html
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23:38.53vhaarrc/p to your own company, useful training course
23:43.27ulic_NeoTron: I think I read they were changing that in Win7, so you could tell it how long before it bugs you again :)
23:44.48mitchnullsvn repo down?
23:45.14NivFreakso going back to vista solved my random wow crashes
23:45.27NivFreakI tried a fresh win7 first, it had the same problems
23:45.28Stanzillamitchnull: yes
23:45.49mitchnullnot my day then... first wow auth server, now the svn :\
23:46.27Starinniamitchnull: did you anger the server gods?
23:46.38mitchnullI created a new project :)
23:47.01mitchnullit's a pitbull plugin, so maybe that's the cause...
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