| 00:00.42 | Yssaril | what do you guys think is it overkill to include a 1MB tga just so i can have a nice swirly texture that swirls (animated via the animation system)? |
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| 00:03.13 | Zeksie | does it need to be 1mb? |
| 00:04.32 | Zeksie | upscaling a smaller one would probably turn out decent enough |
| 00:04.58 | Zeksie | also, you can make it a lot smaller with BLPConverter or something. |
| 00:05.07 | Zhinjio | I need a network geek's help. please PM me if you have a few minutes. good understanding or routing, NAT and firewalls required. |
| 00:06.07 | Daemona | can i have one in my living room please? http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/09/attops.jpg |
| 00:06.35 | Daemona | (at&t noc ny) |
| 00:07.11 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: nice |
| 00:10.03 | TradeMark | hmm |
| 00:10.06 | Zeksie | why do people send me tickets about action bar problems to X-Perl page.. |
| 00:10.15 | TradeMark | if I do frame:Hide(), will frame stop receiving OnUpdate events? |
| 00:10.23 | Zeksie | yes |
| 00:10.27 | TradeMark | damn >.< |
| 00:11.10 | TradeMark | is there an alternative to OnUpdate that will give me an event every frame? or should I just be creating an empty/invisible frame? |
| 00:12.24 | Gnarfoz | that's what OnUpdate is for |
| 00:12.56 | Gnarfoz | and yes, there's no requirement to do your event handling through an actually visible frame that has some function in the UI part of your addon |
| 00:12.59 | Gnarfoz | *GUI |
| 00:14.43 | TradeMark | I'm not sure I understand |
| 00:14.57 | TradeMark | how would I tell the API to call OnUpdate each frame, independent of an actual Frame object |
| 00:15.07 | TradeMark | my OnUpdate method* |
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| 00:15.21 | Gnarfoz | I was, indirectly, answering the latter part of your question with a 'yes' |
| 00:15.38 | Gnarfoz | i.e. make a frame just for events and use that =) |
| 00:16.25 | Zeksie | OnUpdate event is automatically called every frame. the elapsed arg tells you how long since last OnUpdate. |
| 00:16.46 | Zeksie | in most cases some form of throttling based on the elapsed arg would be in order |
| 00:17.18 | TradeMark | yes, I'm already throttling, that's not the issue |
| 00:17.26 | vhaarr | you're not listening |
| 00:17.45 | Zeksie | or maybe not asking the right question |
| 00:17.45 | vhaarr | local f = CreateFrame"Frame";f:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(self,elapsed)... end); f:Show() |
| 00:17.46 | vhaarr | done |
| 00:18.22 | Gnarfoz | that's what I was trying to suggest =) |
| 00:18.27 | vhaarr | I know |
| 00:18.28 | TradeMark | cheers xD |
| 00:18.41 | TradeMark | gotta love the roundabout answers :P |
| 00:18.49 | vhaarr | his answer was fine |
| 00:18.53 | vhaarr | you just suck at reading |
| 00:19.36 | Gnarfoz | view it this way: he just gained a skill point ;) |
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| 00:25.19 | TradeMark | vhaarr: so a frame created in that manner won't actually be "visible" in the sense of being interactive and/or rendered in any way? |
| 00:25.46 | Zeksie | correct |
| 00:25.51 | Zeksie | it has no height/width/location |
| 00:26.06 | TradeMark | alright :) thankyou |
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| 01:20.01 | Repo | 10n-quest-log: 03casualblair * r244 / (16 files in 7 directories): nQuestLog: |
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| 01:26.19 | Repo | 10n-quest-log: 03casualblair * r245 .pkgmeta: nQuestLog: |
| 01:31.29 | Repo | 10n-quest-log: 03casualblair * r246 nQuestLog.toc: nQuestLog: Updating to new mainline without externals |
| 01:31.38 | Repo | 10n-quest-log: 03casualblair * r247 / (7 files in 1 directory): nQuestLog: Updating to new mainline without externals |
| 01:32.10 | Repo | 10n-quest-log: 03casualblair * r248 sounds (2 files in 1 directory): nQuestLog: Updating to new mainline without externals |
| 01:33.15 | Repo | 10n-quest-log: 03casualblair * r249 / (216 files in 52 directories): nQuestLog: Updating to new mainline without externals |
| 01:36.14 | Arrowmaster | ok i am one more bad commit away from yanking him from that project |
| 01:36.42 | Arrowmaster | considering the last commit just added every fucking library directly to the repo |
| 01:37.18 | Repo | 10n-quest-log: 03casualblair 04nQuestLog 3.2 beta * r250 : Tagging as nQuestLog 3.2 beta |
| 01:37.27 | Arrowmaster | yeah that does it |
| 01:37.34 | Gnarfoz | sounds pro lol |
| 01:37.46 | taleden | I dunno, 216 files in 52 directories sounds pretty useful to me |
| 01:37.51 | taleden | I mean, there's bound to be some gold in there somewhere |
| 01:39.27 | Arrowmaster | i just deleted that beta with the reason "Do not add libraries directly into the repo. A lot of them use $Revision$ svn keyword replacement and you just broke them all." |
| 01:39.38 | Arrowmaster | thats his chance to make it right |
| 01:40.42 | Gnarfoz | curiously non-flamy |
| 01:40.56 | Gnarfoz | or rather, no profanity! |
| 01:41.22 | TradeMark | :E is it bad practice to embed libraries directly in SVN? |
| 01:41.34 | taleden | usually |
| 01:41.37 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 01:41.48 | taleden | libstub and cbh and maybe ldb are the only common exceptions I think |
| 01:41.55 | taleden | and even those can usually still just be externaled |
| 01:42.02 | Arrowmaster | those are the only exceptions that i wont go batshit on you for |
| 01:42.11 | vhaarr | <Repo> n-quest-log: casualblair * r244 / (16 files in 7 directories): nQuestLog: |
| 01:42.14 | vhaarr | ^ that's reason enough to pull his commit privs |
| 01:42.17 | Arrowmaster | even though they shouldnt either |
| 01:42.23 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: i know |
| 01:42.57 | Arrowmaster | i considered just deleting the libs dir and removing the tsvn:logtemplate but he made a tag |
| 01:43.02 | Arrowmaster | i might still do that |
| 01:43.29 | Arrowmaster | without the tsvn:logtemplate he would have to enter a commit message |
| 01:43.46 | vhaarr | or put something like |
| 01:44.00 | vhaarr | "Hey fucknut, this is where you describe the changes you're committing." |
| 01:44.01 | vhaarr | in it |
| 01:44.33 | Arrowmaster | "Hey fucknut, this is where you describe the changes you're committing. (p.s. If you commit this message I will site ban you.)" |
| 01:44.40 | vhaarr | lol |
| 01:50.52 | Arrowmaster | he intentionally wiped out the .pkgmeta leaving it with nothing but the package-as: line |
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| 01:55.41 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: his bad file is still there http://www.wowace.com/addons/n-quest-log/files/726-r249/ |
| 01:55.52 | Arrowmaster | its marked as deleted |
| 01:56.22 | Arrowmaster | the beta one is |
| 01:56.22 | Yssaril | i can still download it though |
| 01:56.26 | Yssaril | ahhh |
| 01:56.39 | Yssaril | might wanna get rid of the alpha too |
| 01:57.37 | Arrowmaster | im feeling nice and sent him a PM too with the same message i used for the delete reason since that twat ckknight is too busy with other stuff to work on the website now and the only way to see a file deletion reason is to go looking in the activity log |
| 01:58.34 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 01:58.52 | ckknight | don't call me a twat, you fucking asshole |
| 01:59.09 | Arrowmaster | while your here |
| 01:59.19 | Arrowmaster | where the fuck did this project forum stuff come from |
| 02:01.26 | Arrowmaster | and how is it controlled |
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| 02:06.47 | Groktar | yay got beast |
| 02:07.03 | Groktar | 22 attempts left :( |
| 02:07.09 | Groktar | \ |
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| 02:11.17 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: awsum. we were too bad :P |
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| 02:12.31 | Groktar | we should have had it with about 35 left |
| 02:12.39 | Groktar | we haven't changed the strat since then |
| 02:12.41 | TradeMark | we had lag of epic proportions again last night, went and did some ulduar HMs instead |
| 02:12.43 | Groktar | and it feels so repeatable |
| 02:12.45 | Groktar | i don't get it |
| 02:12.46 | Groktar | :( |
| 02:12.50 | TradeMark | ~42 attempts left |
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| 02:31.49 | Gnarfoz | we never have lag, really, just really crappy players. :p |
| 02:32.42 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 02:32.43 | Fisker | slaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout |
| 02:32.45 | Fisker | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 02:32.48 | Megalon | sets Fisker on fire |
| 02:32.53 | Fisker | cries |
| 02:32.57 | Fisker | what are you doing Megalon ? |
| 02:33.00 | Gnarfoz | sets Megalon atop of Fisker |
| 02:33.06 | Megalon | farts |
| 02:33.13 | Fisker | you've killed us all |
| 02:33.28 | Megalon | and I'll get serveral noble prices for that |
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| 02:40.59 | quiescens | o.o |
| 02:41.03 | quiescens | so violent |
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| 02:56.09 | Repo | 10n-quest-log: 03casualblair 04r250 * r251 : Tagging as r250 |
| 02:58.18 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: ^^ ROFL |
| 02:58.47 | TradeMark | uh oh |
| 02:58.52 | pompy | lol |
| 02:59.22 | taleden | classic |
| 03:00.09 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 03:00.12 | Arrowmaster | "I'm new to this - I intended to break my externals because some of them are not supported anymore and I have fixes. Did I break more than just mine?" |
| 03:00.15 | Torhal | cackles1 |
| 03:00.35 | Arrowmaster | and yes i fucking pulled his ass from that project |
| 03:00.36 | Torhal | He didn't even change anything, just tagged again |
| 03:00.38 | Torhal | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 03:01.00 | Torhal | Who owned it originally? |
| 03:01.09 | Arrowmaster | neuron |
| 03:01.11 | Torhal | They should be slapped for letting him take over |
| 03:02.15 | Arrowmaster | but i think quagmire was working on it then, and like 6 months ago it seems stijnh requested to take it over and was given project lead by another moderator (its a gpl project...) |
| 03:02.27 | Arrowmaster | and it was stijnh that gave it to casualblair |
| 03:03.00 | Torhal | Seriously - if someone who has no projects or experience takes over an existing one, it should be moved off of WoWAce, or at least slapped with the experimental tag |
| 03:05.19 | Arrowmaster | "I was removed as the author - was this you?" |
| 03:05.23 | Arrowmaster | "Yes it was me." |
| 03:06.18 | Arrowmaster | good thing my PMs show that moderator color for my name |
| 03:06.21 | Torhal | Firstly, he was told that he did something majorly wrong. Secondly, he throws "I'm new to this" up as an excuse, then RE-DOES the wrong thing. And he's seriously wondering WTF? |
| 03:06.32 | Torhal | sighs. |
| 03:09.13 | quiescens | ? |
| 03:10.04 | quiescens | shrugs. |
| 03:10.05 | Torhal | quiescens: Scroll back to the fuckton-in-a-row commits to n-quest-log |
| 03:10.11 | Torhal | Then, you'll understand. |
| 03:10.26 | Groktar | kewl, got jaraxxus |
| 03:10.42 | Arrowmaster | i just deleted the files for all the commits he did |
| 03:11.45 | Arrowmaster | " |
| 03:11.46 | Arrowmaster | I'm intending to get a "Hey this works, you can keep using it" version posted out there so that it is not hosted by some strange third party server. I understand it breaks nQuestLog's externals, but I'm unaware of any impact it has elsewhere (legal or software based). I could not find documentation on this, so if you could point me somewhere it would be appreciated. |
| 03:11.51 | Arrowmaster | I don't want to fuck things up, but I do want to update this addon both short term and long term. I seem to be doing it incorrectly, and I'm sorry." |
| 03:12.29 | Arrowmaster | hes only talking after i pulled his access but im not really in a talking mood |
| 03:12.34 | Arrowmaster | should i tell him to get on irc? |
| 03:14.11 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: You'd get your point across better |
| 03:14.30 | Torhal | And not give him enough time to sit back and think up cute shit to say |
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| 03:26.58 | casualblair | anyone have a moment to help a new guy? |
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| 03:29.28 | Arrowmaster | doing multiple things at once but i can try |
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| 03:30.47 | Arrowmaster | doing multiple things at once but i can try |
| 03:33.16 | casualblair | I'm updating an old addon with libraries that have been depreciated. I know that I should redevelop using the new ones, and plan to. Is there an interim solution such that I can update the depreciated library without causing grief? |
| 03:33.40 | Arrowmaster | you mean quixote? |
| 03:33.43 | casualblair | yes |
| 03:33.58 | Arrowmaster | you shouldnt be using version 1.0 at all period |
| 03:34.04 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt work |
| 03:35.47 | Arrowmaster | nQuestLog and FuBar_QuestsFu are perty much clones of each other and Kemayo updated FuBar_QuestsFu to use LibQuixote-2.0, so you can start by looking at the changes made to FuBar_QuestsFu if you dont know what to do |
| 03:38.09 | casualblair | one of the guys who helped me out on this ended up fixing quixote 1.0 |
| 03:38.19 | casualblair | ill go take a look at questsfu tho |
| 03:38.24 | Arrowmaster | he shouldnt have |
| 03:38.33 | Arrowmaster | Kemayo wrote quixote 1.0 and 2.0 |
| 03:38.36 | Arrowmaster | 1.0 is dead |
| 03:39.14 | quiescens | what's the most common variable naming convention? |
| 03:39.44 | quiescens | like, randomly capitalized words or underscore seperated |
| 03:40.00 | Shefki | There isn't one. |
| 03:40.17 | Shefki | That's like asking vi or emacs. |
| 03:40.29 | quiescens | so, foo, bar, i, x etc |
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| 03:42.37 | casualblair | I see what you mean by nquest being a questsfu clone. |
| 03:42.40 | Torhal | casualblair: To be honest, if the AddOn has been broken for some time you aren't going to really accomplish anything by baind-aiding it and then eventually making it work properly. |
| 03:43.03 | Torhal | Also: Embedding every library it uses directly into the repository makes absolutely no sense. |
| 03:43.09 | Arrowmaster | kemayo threw a bandaid on questsfu just to shut people up |
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| 03:43.33 | Arrowmaster | bandaid being to use quixote 2.0 instead of 1.0 |
| 03:46.00 | quiescens | I keep typing :: instead of just : |
| 03:46.03 | quiescens | ): |
| 03:46.32 | TreadMark | ):: |
| 03:46.44 | quiescens | you know what I mean ): |
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| 04:08.32 | NightHawkTheSane | tekkub: if that redirect is meant to go to http://help.github.com/mac-key-setup/ it works... |
| 04:08.48 | tekkub | only if you're n a mac :P |
| 04:09.00 | NightHawkTheSane | well i am, so i guess so. :) |
| 04:09.19 | NightHawkTheSane | pretty snazzy |
| 04:09.26 | tekkub | hence why I asked for nixers, I already tested windows and mac :) |
| 04:09.36 | tekkub | yea it's a neat lil redirect |
| 04:09.47 | tekkub | made that side menu less cluttered |
| 04:10.01 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, you DID ask for linux, didn't you. |
| 04:10.06 | NightHawkTheSane | can read, honestly |
| 04:10.15 | tekkub | yes, I did :P |
| 04:11.04 | NightHawkTheSane | well i can test it on linux as soon as that machine starts |
| 04:11.26 | Torhal | tekkub: What am I supposed to test? |
| 04:11.28 | tekkub | heh |
| 04:11.32 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: link? |
| 04:11.45 | tekkub | http://help.github.com/key-setup-redirect |
| 04:11.52 | tekkub | should redirect to the guide for your OS |
| 04:12.01 | NightHawkTheSane | works on linux |
| 04:12.07 | tekkub | yatta! |
| 04:12.27 | Torhal | tekkub: Aye, works. |
| 04:12.34 | Arrowmaster | well it shouldnt be that hard |
| 04:12.40 | Arrowmaster | "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009061208 Firefox/3.0.12 (Debian-3.0.12-1)" |
| 04:12.47 | Arrowmaster | it says Linux right there in the useragent |
| 04:12.57 | tekkub | aye, I just had no way to confirm it works |
| 04:13.08 | tekkub | as I said, I tested mac and win already |
| 04:13.16 | NightHawkTheSane | there's "shouldn't be that hard" and then there's "i managed to fuck something up and can't test it" :P |
| 04:13.46 | tekkub | http://gist.github.com/180723 |
| 04:13.50 | tekkub | if you're curious |
| 04:15.35 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, it occurs to me that you could google for user agent strings and use safari's user agent switcher to test it |
| 04:15.53 | tekkub | hrm... |
| 04:16.16 | NightHawkTheSane | (assuming you have safari's develop menu enabled, i think thats still a hidden pref) |
| 04:16.33 | tekkub | well shit |
| 04:16.47 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 04:16.47 | tekkub | why didn't I think of that? |
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| 04:25.40 | NightHawkTheSane | http://help.github.com/mac-key-setup/ |
| 04:25.44 | NightHawkTheSane | er, woops. wrong link |
| 04:25.49 | NightHawkTheSane | http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/09/03/roadside-weed |
| 04:26.32 | quiescens | is it possible to get a list of all frames under the mouse cursor? |
| 04:26.37 | quiescens | rather than just the topmost? |
| 04:26.48 | Sunwind | does wow limit addon memory usage to 100mb or something? when I reach about the 100mb mark during raids my whole UI will break and I have to /reloadui to fix anything |
| 04:26.54 | VonhintenHOME` | yes, devtools did it |
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| 04:27.21 | quiescens | I'm not aware of a 100mb limit |
| 04:27.36 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 04:29.45 | Sunwind | hmm |
| 04:29.54 | Fisker | came |
| 04:29.57 | NightHawkTheSane | while i'm not aware of a limit, can i just say "jesus fuck, 100mb?" |
| 04:29.59 | quiescens | oh fun, it just enumerates every frame and checks them all |
| 04:30.02 | Sunwind | Message: memory allocation error: block too big |
| 04:30.02 | Sunwind | Time: 09/03/09 18:12:13 |
| 04:30.02 | Sunwind | Count: 1 |
| 04:30.02 | Sunwind | Stack: [string |
| 04:30.17 | Sunwind | that's the start of the lua errors I get when the memory gets to about 100 |
| 04:30.29 | quiescens | there are however, limits to the size of an individual allocation |
| 04:30.30 | quiescens | probably |
| 04:30.50 | quiescens | and or limits based on available ram |
| 04:31.10 | quiescens | but there is no hard "100mb" limit |
| 04:31.17 | Sunwind | I don't know why it gets so high, the only thing that should be accumilating memory is recount and I reset it but it doesn't seem to make much of a dent in the memory usage |
| 04:31.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Hm, could be some addon badly misbehaving, and by the time it gets so out of control, you've hit 100mb of memory |
| 04:31.36 | Yssaril | yea there is no hard limit its one of your addons screwing up |
| 04:31.44 | quiescens | if you're wondering you should probably get something to find out how much each one is using |
| 04:32.24 | quiescens | they're right, chances are something is misbehaving though because it doesn't just stop at 100mb |
| 04:32.25 | NightHawkTheSane | er, rather, "by the time it gets so out of control errors start being generated..." |
| 04:34.28 | Sunwind | http://paste.wowace.com/1076/ |
| 04:47.47 | Yssaril | Sunwind: your problem is most liekly cowtip |
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| 04:59.57 | pakoz | any warrior offtanks here that've done anub? |
| 05:00.01 | Torhal | s/is most liekly/is / |
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| 05:04.17 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:06.17 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10711083727&sid=1 |
| 05:06.20 | Fisker | *sigh* |
| 05:06.26 | Fisker | well pakoz |
| 05:06.30 | Fisker | pala off-tank |
| 05:06.37 | Fisker | what do you want to know? :P |
| 05:07.39 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r206 WotLK (2 files in 1 directory): -Add Boss : Koralon |
| 05:07.42 | Repo | -Add : Flaming Cinder |
| 05:13.43 | asmodai | lesser extinct? guess that poster meant extent |
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| 05:46.26 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r207 WotLK (2 files in 1 directory): -Update TOC |
| 05:47.09 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03s8095324 * r6014 Ulduar/Freya.lua: zhTW update |
| 05:49.17 | Fisker | calm the fuck down |
| 05:51.03 | Torhal | Fisker: What if it's a hyper fuck? |
| 05:54.01 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r440 modules/TargetCC.lua: |
| 05:54.04 | Repo | bug http://www.wowace.com/addons/ice-hud/tickets/28-add-hex-to-target-cc-module/ - added Hex to the CC list as an incapacitate effect |
| 05:54.41 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03s8095324 * r599 LittleWigs.toc: zhTW update |
| 06:07.47 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03s8095324 * r6015 Coliseum/Champions.lua: zhTW update |
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| 06:19.33 | Elkano | <3 japan: http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/09/01/a-hidden-gem-in-html/ |
| 06:21.34 | sb|work | wtf :) |
| 06:22.39 | Megalon | haha |
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| 06:44.27 | sb|work | mh wtf, someone tell me how do get more dps for #U(!)# northrend beasts :p |
| 06:46.59 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * dc7edc1 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+2 commits] |
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| 06:47.05 | Repo | dc7edc1: Fixed another bug in the format sent for comms |
| 06:47.08 | Repo | 57bea93: Added support for bomb heals into the comm (Lifebloom) |
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| 06:59.44 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r625 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix Ticket-60 |
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| 07:10.01 | Repo | 10libsink-2-0: 03Rabbit * r66 LibSink-2.0/LibSink-2.0.lua: Update for latest Parrot, someone test please. |
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| 07:14.02 | sylvanaar | god wiki language pisses me off |
| 07:14.17 | sylvanaar | {{{ |
| 07:14.19 | sylvanaar | code |
| 07:14.23 | sylvanaar | }}} |
| 07:14.30 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6016 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 07:14.33 | Repo | There's no berserk at thorim p3. So nuke it. Also some other random changes. |
| 07:15.02 | sylvanaar | linebreaks required |
| 07:17.09 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r208 WotLK/Coliseum.lua: -Add : Touch of Jaraxxus, Curse of nether |
| 07:18.48 | sylvanaar | vhaarr the strings buggrabber is saving are getting "..."'ed by lua. |
| 07:19.49 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: show me |
| 07:21.17 | asmodai | Good morning people :) |
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| 07:21.47 | asmodai | sylvanaar: Sounds like Creole or Trac wiki syntax |
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| 07:25.42 | sylvanaar | asmodai its creole i hate it |
| 07:26.39 | sylvanaar | vhaarr http://sylvanaar.dontexist.com/solace/en/topic/1-attempt-to-index-global-scripterrors-a-nil-value |
| 07:28.27 | sylvanaar | im pretty sure that i did something recently that had the same problem |
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| 07:28.43 | vhaarr | those lines are truncated before I get them |
| 07:29.25 | sylvanaar | wonder why |
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| 07:38.01 | sylvanaar | something i did recently had the same problem, i wish it could remember what it was |
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| 07:40.59 | *** topic/#wowace by [Ammo] -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://lua.org | Curse Client: http://www.curse.com/client | http://wowace.com/a/author-store-is-launched | Want your Username changed? http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ |
| 07:41.44 | asmodai | advertisement fail : http://imgur.com/5jxA3.png |
| 07:44.03 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r231 modules/StatusAuras.lua: Fix Ticket 25 and 26 |
| 07:44.53 | quiescens | gasp |
| 07:44.54 | quiescens | grid2 |
| 07:45.31 | sylvanaar | thats funny asmodai |
| 07:48.49 | Fisker | i would get it if i had any idea about agriculture asmodai |
| 07:50.52 | Fisker | Translated: Give hint asmodai |
| 07:51.20 | Repo | 10libbagutils-1-0: 03mikk * r15 LibBagUtils-1.0/LibBagUtils-1.0.lua: |
| 07:51.23 | Repo | Do away with the idea of a bag list cache. It seemed nice, but I totally forgot about the event reception ordering problem. (I.e. addons reacting to BANK_OPENED before the lib has time to react to it and so forth) |
| 07:51.57 | Fisker | wtf |
| 07:52.01 | Repo | 10libbagutils-1-0: 03mikk 041.0.15 * r16 : Tagging as 1.0.15 |
| 07:53.31 | Repo | 10baggins: 03mikk * r426 Baggins-Filtering.lua: - Minor code cleanup |
| 07:53.34 | Repo | - Pull new LibBagUtils to fix Ticket 37 (and the second half of Ticket 34) |
| 07:55.26 | orionshock | riddle me this - why do people name their projects for libs with the major version? are they intending development of the major version after they have moved on to the next major? |
| 07:55.43 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:56.37 | quiescens | moo |
| 07:58.40 | Torhal | orionshock: Future-proofing the lib. If you make API-breaking changes, it's time to make LibBagUtils-1.1 or even 2.0, depending on the severity of the change. |
| 07:59.00 | Torhal | Otherwise, you break all the AddOns which use it. |
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| 08:15.16 | sb|work | mh lol :/ |
| 08:15.18 | orionshock | Torhal i'd aggree when we where operating on the all in one svn.. but now a days.. F That. |
| 08:15.34 | orionshock | if you arn't paying the F attention you deserve your shit to be broken as hell |
| 08:16.03 | sb|work | guildie hat low fps yesterday (down to ~10fps in beasts fight) - then he disabled DBM... and guess what :/ |
| 08:16.37 | orionshock | ^^ sb|work only goes to show just how shitty their code is |
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| 08:19.38 | Groktar | my interwebs died when my beasts video was at 88% |
| 08:19.39 | Groktar | :( |
| 08:20.32 | TOCADAE | is anybody here familiar with Bartender4? |
| 08:21.20 | profalbert | nevcairiel might be |
| 08:21.50 | TOCADAE | well this is the IRC channel that it linked me to |
| 08:22.26 | sb|work | Groktar: i died yesterday when the beasts (worms) were at 88%! :/ |
| 08:22.43 | TOCADAE | anyways I was just wondering if you could use Bartender's customizable bars without ditching the regular WoW bars at the bottom |
| 08:23.52 | orionshock | TOCADAE: more info, your request is to vauge |
| 08:24.09 | profalbert | TOCADAE: I don't think so, because Bartender4 augments the original bars |
| 08:24.36 | TOCADAE | Alright, what I was looking to get out of Bartender is just an -aditional- bar on which I could place my main skill rotation |
| 08:25.10 | TOCADAE | not augment everything else i've already gotten familiar with |
| 08:25.16 | TOCADAE | but if its not possible, thats alright, and thanks. |
| 08:25.19 | Zeksie | I think you're after something like Macaroon then, which can just add bars |
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| 08:29.16 | TOCADAE | Yeah thats essentially it. I currently play prot paly which has a rotation between CD times which is most effecient. So in order to time it with these skills placed in the normal WoW bar, I end up looking at the bottom of the screen 80% of the time which isnt a good idea for a tank. |
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| 08:33.40 | Groktar | i bind all my abilities with spellbinder |
| 08:33.53 | sb|work | clicky click! |
| 08:34.13 | Groktar | and then put my abilities with a short cd in a row in the bottom middle of my screen |
| 08:34.27 | Groktar | and use coolline for everything else |
| 08:34.58 | TOCADAE | thats exactly what I mean, short CD rotation on a customizable bar in the lower middle of the screen |
| 08:35.07 | asmodai | Fisker: Sugar is CxHxOx |
| 08:35.21 | asmodai | Fisker: So saying carbonfree would mean: CxHxOx -> HxOx |
| 08:35.29 | asmodai | going from sugar to water(-based molecules) |
| 08:35.35 | Groktar | so make an extra bar with bartender |
| 08:35.42 | Groktar | stick it in the middle of the screen |
| 08:35.45 | Groktar | and put some shit on it |
| 08:35.46 | Groktar | done |
| 08:37.04 | TOCADAE | I did but it killed everything else i had already settup, i just wanted this in addition, not a total rewrite of the normal stuff as well |
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| 08:37.19 | TOCADAE | anyways im checking out macaroon, thanks for the advice |
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| 08:52.17 | asmodai | oh man, that's just great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVFyRfX84Dc |
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| 08:56.39 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit 07release * r6017 : Remove this fucked up branch. |
| 08:57.23 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit 07release * r6018 : Create new release branch based on pristine 5890 release. |
| 08:58.32 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit 07release * r6019 Coliseum (2 files in 1 directory): Update Anub'arak to the latest changes. |
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| 09:01.48 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit 07release * r6020 Ulduar/Thorim.lua: Fix Thorim berserk timer. |
| 09:03.17 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r6021 / (5 files in 2 directories): frFR Update |
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| 09:07.02 | Fisker | cries |
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| 09:09.13 | vhaarr | how do I manage an addon on curse? |
| 09:09.17 | vhaarr | I need to nuke some files from it |
| 09:09.26 | nevcairiel | just delete them on wowace |
| 09:09.31 | nevcairiel | and they'll vanish sooner or later |
| 09:09.59 | vhaarr | ah thanks |
| 09:10.14 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: also what's this I hear about alpha/release type stuff with the curse client? |
| 09:10.32 | nevcairiel | more specific? :P |
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| 09:10.49 | vhaarr | if I make a new release, CC will consider that the most recent even though there are alphas? |
| 09:11.32 | asmodai | want corehound and windrider pets |
| 09:11.35 | sb|work | if the release is > alpha, why not!? |
| 09:11.45 | nevcairiel | It'll always get the latest version depending on your CC setting, so if you make a release, everyone will get that, if you push alphas afterwards people with "alpha" enabled, will get those again |
| 09:11.54 | vhaarr | alright |
| 09:11.57 | asmodai | badgers nevcairiel about totem bars in bt4 |
| 09:12.06 | nevcairiel | I still have no shaman! |
| 09:12.09 | asmodai | I has! |
| 09:12.45 | profalbert | nevcairiel: wtb dualspec-profile-switching |
| 09:13.01 | nevcairiel | wtb more time |
| 09:13.09 | asmodai | 10g |
| 09:13.18 | profalbert | that's what my patch is about ;) |
| 09:13.25 | profalbert | it's posted in the corresponding ticket |
| 09:13.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit 04r5890-5-release * r6022 : |
| 09:13.37 | Repo | Create a new proper release. -2, -3 and -4 were completely broken. |
| 09:13.59 | nevcairiel | about more time? |
| 09:14.39 | profalbert | hmm, kind of, you don't have to code it anymore ;) |
| 09:15.28 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6023 Plugins/RaidIcon.lua: Just call it 'Icons'. |
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| 09:18.44 | sb|work | @ticket bartender4 |
| 09:18.45 | Repo | sb|work: (ticket <project> <ticket-num> or <game>/<project> <ticket-num>) -- Returns details about the ticket |
| 09:18.47 | sb|work | oh hm |
| 09:19.01 | sb|work | @ticket bartender4 9001 |
| 09:19.02 | Repo | sb|work: No such ticket exists |
| 09:19.03 | sb|work | :/ |
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| 09:20.31 | sb|work | mh - what happens to 'frames' if i 'overwrite' them? (so two times "CreateFrame" with the same identifier)? |
| 09:23.39 | sb|work | i need to remove some frames - overwriting them would be nice, but no idea if that works :) |
| 09:24.03 | nevcairiel | the name is just a global variable, it probably just overwrites it |
| 09:24.14 | [Ammo] | but any local refs you have to the old frame will remain |
| 09:24.19 | [Ammo] | frames are not garbage collected |
| 09:24.23 | sb|work | me |
| 09:24.32 | [Ammo] | so you're better off just reusing the old frame |
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| 09:25.43 | sb|work | [Ammo]: i don't know how xml frames / and oUF-spawn handles those frames, would it be enough to re-use the "parent" frame? (which has some nameList and XML parent/target magic in it)? |
| 09:26.41 | sb|work | or would that just reuse the parent frame and leave a lot of frame-garbage behind (which will be not collected :p) |
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| 09:30.43 | Yivry | I've had mac-specific errors that suggest frames do get garbagecollected on macs somehow |
| 09:31.25 | nevcairiel | frames never get GCed, the Lua table of the frame might get GCed, but the frame reference in C will still lurk in memory |
| 09:31.35 | nevcairiel | without anyone ever being able to gain access to it again |
| 09:31.50 | sb|work | mhhh |
| 09:32.17 | nevcairiel | granted its not much memory, but its still there =P |
| 09:33.59 | sb|work | so i could just spawn/create new frames when changing options, because its not that much memory and will be gone on relog/reload ui - nobody changes options every 5 minutes when playing :p |
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| 09:43.06 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6024 / (17 files in 8 directories): |
| 09:43.09 | Repo | - load all modules via a modules.xml construction, no need to add a new module to 2 files anymore |
| 09:43.12 | Repo | - clean out dewdrop from .pkgmeta, it's nolonger used |
| 09:43.15 | Repo | - remove empty beta.lua file from coliseum |
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| 09:46.30 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6025 / (2 files in 1 directory): oops, dew is still used by bars and messages |
| 09:48.54 | Groktar | our beasts video would be a lot better if i wasn't on floor for all of icehowl |
| 09:48.55 | Groktar | :( |
| 09:52.07 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6026 Ulduar (3 files in 1 directory): deDE update |
| 09:52.30 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't understand why The Black Heart is valued so highly in the latest Rawr, for my bear |
| 09:52.40 | VonhintenHOME` | it's a nice trinket, but it's #1 |
| 09:53.21 | Groktar | i died because my trinky ran out just as the enraged worm was breathing |
| 09:53.22 | Groktar | :( |
| 09:53.23 | mojosdojo | bear scales very good with stamina and armor |
| 09:55.05 | VonhintenHOME` | it's #2 actually, the Glyph of Indomitability is #1, and not by much |
| 09:55.52 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm just not seeing how a trinket that drops in non-heroic ToC can be that high on the list |
| 09:57.26 | asmodai | Groktar: so you failed :( |
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| 09:57.56 | Groktar | yeah |
| 09:58.09 | Groktar | i had fucked up earlier |
| 09:58.32 | Groktar | i thought everyone had the poison off when dreadscale submerged |
| 09:58.46 | Groktar | so i ran over to go tank him and didn't see a shaman |
| 09:58.50 | Groktar | poor thing went splat |
| 09:59.02 | Groktar | well, i saw it after my bile debuff ran out |
| 09:59.16 | VonhintenHOME` | shamans always die... if it wasn't for heroism, we wouldn't bring them at all |
| 09:59.53 | sb|work | manatide! :p |
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| 10:00.19 | VonhintenHOME` | pfff.. innervate |
| 10:00.41 | VonhintenHOME` | always bring at least 4 druids =P |
| 10:01.36 | VonhintenHOME` | they can res OTHER people in battle, not just their own stupid ass once an hour when they die all of a sudden to stupid shit :) |
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| 10:03.31 | VonhintenHOME` | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.26 | asmodai | VonhintenHOME`: hey! I don't always die |
| 10:08.35 | asmodai | knows better than to pop his ankh |
| 10:08.48 | asmodai | I generally only pop it when there's a wipe |
| 10:09.19 | asmodai | VonhintenHOME`: besides, with proper talents its once every 40 minutes ;) |
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| 10:10.17 | Groktar | grrr |
| 10:10.28 | Groktar | i can't find the option to unlock the buff frames in sbf :( |
| 10:10.39 | Groktar | i know i found it once when i got everything where i wanted it |
| 10:10.48 | VonhintenHOME` | you fail |
| 10:10.55 | Groktar | yeah, i'm about to rage |
| 10:11.06 | airtonix | lol |
| 10:12.00 | airtonix | ok serious now, anyone got any experience creating windows sidebar gadgets? |
| 10:12.37 | VonhintenHOME` | Grok, lol, when you're in /sbf config |
| 10:12.44 | VonhintenHOME` | the bars have anchors, just drag |
| 10:12.56 | Groktar | thank you |
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| 10:12.59 | Groktar | shoots himself |
| 10:13.09 | VonhintenHOME` | RAGE OVERTED |
| 10:13.10 | Groktar | the worst part is that i've done this before with no problem |
| 10:13.33 | Groktar | i was making a new buff frame and only putting shield wall, last stand, pain suppression, etc in it |
| 10:13.34 | Groktar | guess why |
| 10:13.36 | Groktar | :p |
| 10:13.48 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6027 Coliseum/ValkyrTwins.lua: Make the touch of light/dark messages better. |
| 10:14.12 | VonhintenHOME` | You're in hard mode? |
| 10:14.26 | Groktar | i died on our beasts kill today |
| 10:14.42 | Groktar | my last stand ran out while he was breathing |
| 10:14.42 | Groktar | thought i had a couple seconds |
| 10:14.42 | VonhintenHOME` | Probably a better idea to burn them down equally |
| 10:14.50 | Groktar | no |
| 10:14.53 | Groktar | that's a horrid idea |
| 10:15.08 | Groktar | need to rid of the poison |
| 10:15.11 | Groktar | it ruins your dps |
| 10:15.21 | Groktar | once the first worm dies the second goes down in under a minute |
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| 10:17.18 | VonhintenHOME` | bring dread to acid tanked in a V, burn hero, blade flurry, heart strike, divine storm, etc get a bunch of damage on the 2nd mob |
| 10:17.35 | VonhintenHOME` | gained all your DPS down, and spent very little time in enrage |
| 10:17.51 | VonhintenHOME` | poison clouds don't matter once the worms move |
| 10:17.58 | VonhintenHOME` | it's the only time you can really bring them together |
| 10:18.32 | Groktar | that's kinda awesome |
| 10:18.57 | VonhintenHOME` | hell, may even be able to position in a wide V so that melee get sweeped into the wall |
| 10:20.07 | VonhintenHOME` | I usually look to achievements when new stuff comes out... they usually foreshadow effective strats... |
| 10:20.11 | sb|work | Groktar: mh so kill acidguy and then hard dps on dreadscale (with tank rotation (ffs, you have 3 of them) + cooldown burning)!? thats what my next try would be (once we can get p1 under control :p) |
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| 10:20.40 | sb|work | 3 tanks is like 60s of tank-cooldowns, no problem there (my guess... :p) |
| 10:20.58 | Groktar | 1 warrior is 33 seconds |
| 10:21.05 | Groktar | throw in a gs and ps |
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| 10:21.11 | Groktar | and then had another taunt off after that |
| 10:21.14 | Groktar | it's dead |
| 10:21.16 | VonhintenHOME` | XT hard mode, razorscale down in 2 attemtps (meaning 25% each floor phase), getting the worms down within 10 seconds of each other |
| 10:22.51 | VonhintenHOME` | So, 25man Anub is quite a cock-block compared to 10 man |
| 10:23.36 | sb|work | just get nerubianguys right |
| 10:24.04 | sb|work | (aka kill them before the second spawn :p) |
| 10:24.11 | VonhintenHOME` | we didn't try keeping them tanked until the burrow, that'd probably help us |
| 10:24.46 | VonhintenHOME` | we weren't getting enough DPS on the boss, 10% down by the first burrow |
| 10:24.48 | VonhintenHOME` | that's bad |
| 10:24.55 | sb|work | we did 3 tanks, 1 anub, 1 add offtank, and 1 tanks his add right inside the boss - so melee can finish it quickly |
| 10:25.15 | Groktar | ya, that's what we did on normal mode |
| 10:25.23 | Groktar | we'd kill the first two adds while he was up |
| 10:25.25 | Tristanian | you don't really need so many tanks |
| 10:25.28 | Groktar | and leave the second two alone until the burrow |
| 10:25.50 | sb|work | Tristanian: no, but its easier then :p |
| 10:25.57 | VonhintenHOME` | so you killed 2 while he was up? |
| 10:26.01 | Groktar | yeah |
| 10:26.03 | Tristanian | yes |
| 10:26.09 | Groktar | tank them right under his azz |
| 10:26.10 | Tristanian | on normal it doesn't matter |
| 10:26.11 | sb|work | Groktar: yep, but we screwed up the 30% thingie :p |
| 10:26.13 | VonhintenHOME` | just from incidental damage? |
| 10:26.19 | sb|work | spawn right before 30%, so 30% was like 3 adds + boss :/ |
| 10:26.36 | Groktar | we were aoeing |
| 10:26.40 | sb|work | killed with 5 people alive... %-) |
| 10:26.44 | Groktar | melee switched and ranged would do proper aoe |
| 10:26.58 | Groktar | wonder what it's like on heroic |
| 10:27.05 | Tristanian | 5 orbs |
| 10:27.09 | VonhintenHOME` | probably retarded |
| 10:27.15 | Tristanian | for the entire fight |
| 10:27.39 | Tristanian | so you need mad DPS |
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| 10:27.57 | Tristanian | get him to like late 50's before the 1st burrow |
| 10:29.02 | VonhintenHOME` | so, why not tank all 4 until the first burrow, in normal? Too much damage taken no add tanks? |
| 10:29.10 | VonhintenHOME` | no=on |
| 10:29.39 | Tristanian | the debuff.. |
| 10:29.40 | Groktar | it was for us |
| 10:29.48 | Groktar | two adds = exploding tank |
| 10:30.11 | VonhintenHOME` | the debuff stacks to 10 and then falls off doesn't it? |
| 10:30.11 | Groktar | of course, we had alts offtanking in our first 25 man |
| 10:30.58 | Tristanian | well there is really no reason not to kill the adds |
| 10:31.12 | Tristanian | on heroic you kinda have to do it anyway :P |
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| 10:41.22 | sb|work | stack is limited to 10 |
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| 10:41.33 | sb|work | so if you spamheal that tank its possible to tank 2 of them :p |
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| 10:41.56 | sb|work | and wtf? orbs limited in heroic? |
| 10:41.58 | sb|work | thats bad... |
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| 10:46.23 | vhaarr | zomg |
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| 10:56.27 | nevcairiel | freenode seriously has issues the last week |
| 11:01.08 | asmodai | disconnects nevcairiel |
| 11:01.15 | asmodai | Oh wait, the network will do that for me |
| 11:02.28 | Megalon | splits asmodai |
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| 11:02.48 | asmodai | now is 2 |
| 11:02.52 | sb|work | fiskers Megalon |
| 11:02.53 | asmodai | double the fun, double the nuisance! |
| 11:03.39 | Megalon | enjoys |
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| 12:05.05 | Elkano | <3 http://www.explosm.net/comics/1785/ |
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| 12:12.02 | WobNet | Elkano: The perfect ending |
| 12:13.46 | Kazie | Anyone who can hjelp me make this work? http://paste.wowace.com/1081/ <-- supposed to show lvl/class for players and lvl/classification for npcs when rage/runic power is 0 and mana/focus/energy is max... but it just shows power :( |
| 12:14.09 | Kazie | Text for PB4 btw. |
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| 12:16.32 | Elkano | Kazie: PowerType == "RAGE" or "RUNIC_POWER" |
| 12:16.38 | Elkano | that's your problem... |
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| 12:16.47 | sb|work | something is wrong here |
| 12:16.53 | sb|work | my firefox dies when browsing wowace.com |
| 12:16.56 | Elkano | Kazie: PowerType == "RAGE" or PowerType == "RUNIC_POWER" |
| 12:17.05 | sb|work | its _really_ slow, maybe its some javascript, i dont know |
| 12:17.07 | Elkano | same for mana/energy |
| 12:17.29 | Kazie | Okay i'll try that. |
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| 12:17.59 | Kazie | (PowerType == "RAGE" or PowerType == "RUNIC_POWER") Like this? |
| 12:18.10 | Kazie | Or must it be 2 different parenteses? |
| 12:18.14 | Elkano | yeah |
| 12:18.27 | Elkano | I just replyed to your paste |
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| 12:20.02 | Gagorian | you don't need parenthesis at all |
| 12:20.07 | Gagorian | unless you combine it to something else |
| 12:20.48 | Kazie | Elkano: Where were you yesterday? :P .. i was up all night trying to make this work :) thanks |
| 12:20.50 | Gagorian | ah, looking at your code, you're doing that so nvm |
| 12:21.38 | Kazie | Gagorian: hehe :) |
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| 12:27.53 | Xtek | Don't listen to Elkano he's a noob. |
| 12:28.53 | Kazie | Well he made my code work, when i could not :) |
| 12:30.28 | Elkano | At least I have a job! *puts on his flak jacket* |
| 12:31.10 | Xtek | lol I have a job |
| 12:31.26 | Xtek | A fun one at that. :P |
| 12:31.27 | Megalon | trolling the internet ain't a job! |
| 12:31.41 | Elkano | (this was actually a game quote... name the game ;) ) |
| 12:31.44 | Megalon | or else fisker would have one too |
| 12:31.52 | Elkano | ~emulate Fisker- |
| 12:31.53 | purl | emulate fisker- is, like, DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER |
| 12:32.02 | Xtek | hah |
| 12:32.34 | Xtek | Elkano, I have no idea the only place I remember a flak jacket is CS. |
| 12:32.43 | Xtek | Haven't played that seriously since 1.5. |
| 12:33.04 | Elkano | was refering to C&C:RA2 |
| 12:33.20 | Xtek | ah |
| 12:33.23 | Elkano | hmm, are flak troopers wearing flak jackets? |
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| 12:35.11 | Kazie | Makes sense to me lol :P |
| 12:35.26 | asmodai | And firing flak guns? |
| 12:39.14 | Gagorian | The first usage of the term refers to the armour originally developed by the Wilkinson Sword company during World War II to help protect Royal Air Force (RAF) air personnel from the flying debris and shrapnel thrown by German anti-aircraft guns' high-explosive shells (flak itself is an abbrevation for the German word for "anti-aircraft gun" (Fliegerabwehrkanone)). |
| 12:41.06 | WobNet | pft |
| 12:41.10 | WobNet | damn germans =P |
| 12:41.24 | WobNet | even the full name sounds awesome =P |
| 12:46.19 | nevcairiel | we *are* awesome |
| 12:47.13 | Megalon | oldschool flak or newschool flarak |
| 12:47.21 | Megalon | choose your weapon? :< |
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| 12:47.48 | vhaarr | Kaelten, nevcairiel: can I make a page on wowace.com private, so that it's not linked from anywhere? |
| 12:47.55 | asmodai | drops a Big Bertha on nevcairiel :P |
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| 12:51.21 | Megalon | drops a Schwerer Gustav on asmodai |
| 12:51.22 | Megalon | :p |
| 12:51.44 | nevcairiel | vhaarr, not that i know of, no. |
| 12:51.45 | Elkano | drops a Dora on Megalon |
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| 12:52.24 | vhaarr | Kaelten: is that something you'd consider? |
| 12:52.41 | Megalon | drops an unfinished Langer Gustav on Elkano |
| 12:52.46 | nevcairiel | What do you have to hide? =P |
| 12:53.25 | Elkano | oh, cool, Gustav and Dora are siblings ^^ |
| 12:53.53 | Megalon | ;) |
| 12:53.56 | Megalon | Rate of fire 1 round every 30 to 45 minutes or typically 14 rounds a day |
| 12:54.04 | Megalon | but not of the fast kind :P |
| 12:54.22 | Megalon | but on the other hand the only needed to hit once ;) |
| 12:55.29 | Elkano | drops a P1000 Ratte on Megalon |
| 12:56.08 | Elkano | or should I drop a P1500 Monster? |
| 12:56.27 | Elkano | ok, I go for the Monster ^^ was ment to have a Gustav as main gun ^^ |
| 12:56.36 | Elkano | -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1500_Monster |
| 12:57.06 | Megalon | ;> |
| 12:57.16 | nevcairiel | thats one of the crazy ideas in WWII that you see in movies only :P |
| 12:57.20 | Elkano | or, eben better, I'll drop THE BAGGER 288! |
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| 12:57.36 | Elkano | -> http://rathergood.com/bagger288 |
| 12:57.42 | Megalon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7qx1FGRt54 |
| 12:57.43 | Megalon | ! |
| 12:57.49 | Megalon | best vid ever |
| 12:57.56 | Megalon | the leaders of the world |
| 12:58.01 | Megalon | sat down around a secret table |
| 12:58.02 | Megalon | weeeeee |
| 12:58.13 | Elkano | I see we understand eachother ^^ |
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| 13:06.22 | WobNet | nevcairiel: gah, I went and setup my boomkin's actionbars in BT4 |
| 13:06.24 | WobNet | and it was great |
| 13:06.31 | WobNet | then I went and dual specced |
| 13:06.34 | WobNet | =\ |
| 13:06.42 | nevcairiel | eh, so? |
| 13:06.47 | WobNet | is there any way to copy the settings across specs? |
| 13:07.06 | nevcairiel | isnt that what blizzard does? just copy your bars onto the second spec? |
| 13:07.18 | WobNet | It clears them, it seems |
| 13:07.32 | nevcairiel | thats news to me |
| 13:07.40 | WobNet | I was surprised too =\ |
| 13:07.52 | nevcairiel | you could use something like actionbarsaver |
| 13:07.57 | nevcairiel | and copy it over |
| 13:08.00 | Elkano | for me it copied them the moment I got my 2nd spec |
| 13:08.10 | Elkano | but after that. they are independant |
| 13:08.24 | orionshock | when you first get dual spec, it copies everything from 1 to 2nd, from there they are seperate ^ as Elkano said |
| 13:08.55 | WobNet | omg, bagger288 |
| 13:09.32 | WobNet | the lyrics are ... inspired |
| 13:09.39 | WobNet | "... soon to be de-meated" |
| 13:09.45 | nevcairiel | you didnt know it yet? :P |
| 13:09.54 | WobNet | no! I've been bereft! |
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| 13:12.01 | WobNet | although the actual music reminds me of Nena and 99 Luftballoons |
| 13:12.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Xtek] by ChanServ |
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| 13:13.27 | WobNet | oh I know why |
| 13:13.38 | WobNet | I went and bought my DS before deciding what to actually spec |
| 13:13.42 | WobNet | so my actionbars were blank |
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| 13:14.28 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10711183474&postId=107096805475&sid=1#5 <-hohoohoh |
| 13:14.31 | Fisker | nevcairielmen |
| 13:14.35 | WobNet | Shadowed: Thank you for ABS! |
| 13:17.29 | Repo | 10zzhuntar: 03Turaka * r17 .pkgmeta: [+] Added pkgmeta file |
| 13:18.31 | Bruners | needs more fisker rage |
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| 13:20.11 | Fisker | Brunersmen |
| 13:20.19 | Fisker | i want harddrive |
| 13:20.20 | Fisker | what about you? |
| 13:20.50 | Bruners | im going to go buy a fiber optical cable to my friends stereo |
| 13:21.52 | Fisker | i can't buy my harddrive yet |
| 13:21.52 | Repo | 10zzhuntar: 03Turaka 04v2.0a * r18 : Tagging as v2.0a |
| 13:24.18 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r286 core.lua: |
| 13:24.21 | Repo | fix hook for GetQuestRewardOption to not care about if we have an NPCid or not.. not too important anyways. |
| 13:25.44 | Repo | 10zzhuntar: 03Turaka 04v2.1 * r19 : Tagging as v2.1 |
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| 13:29.03 | Fisker | kisses Bruners |
| 13:32.27 | Groktar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19717352950&postId=197154088907&sid=1#0 |
| 13:32.28 | Groktar | :D |
| 13:34.42 | Stanzilla | You may need Haali Media Splitter to download it. < Why O_O |
| 13:35.12 | Groktar | mkv files? |
| 13:35.18 | Groktar | and i guess i should change that to view |
| 13:35.23 | Stanzilla | yup :P |
| 13:35.37 | Fisker | slaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:35.57 | Groktar | i really wish that attempt hadn't been the kill |
| 13:36.06 | Groktar | i fucked up so much that attempt |
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| 13:43.29 | Fisker | slaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:43.35 | Kaelten | dsg'morning guys |
| 13:44.10 | Fisker | dsg? |
| 13:44.35 | Kaelten | s/dsg/g/ |
| 13:49.08 | Groktar | pounces Kaelten |
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| 13:49.19 | Kaelten | owe |
| 13:49.32 | Darthn_Work | you're a druid now Groktar? |
| 13:49.58 | Groktar | what? |
| 13:50.12 | Darthn_Work | [09:54] * Groktar pounces Kaelten |
| 13:50.19 | Darthn_Work | cats pounce duh |
| 13:50.20 | Groktar | i just like pouncing :( |
| 13:50.27 | Fisker | i disagree Kaelten |
| 13:50.30 | Groktar | charge is pouncelike, isn't it? |
| 13:50.37 | nevcairiel | no |
| 13:51.56 | nevcairiel | punce is druids cheap shot .. more or less |
| 13:52.07 | nevcairiel | not like a in-your-face-charge |
| 13:53.31 | Darthn_Work | well cat charge is like an in your face charge then LOL TRICKED YOU and we get behind you |
| 13:53.41 | Darthn_Work | now druids do it from behind |
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| 14:17.29 | Kaelten | Fisker: I assert your lack of agreement is a fault of one's self |
| 14:18.03 | Elkano | a fault of one's self? did you call using . instead of :? |
| 14:18.25 | Kaelten | lol |
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| 14:22.01 | Pneumatus | wtb wowhead filters for 10man/25man/normal/heroic :< |
| 14:26.10 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r441 modules/TargetOfTarget.lua: |
| 14:26.12 | Repo | - changed the vertical position extents to 600 instead of 300 by request |
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| 14:35.46 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://lua.org | Curse Client: http://www.curse.com/client | http://wowace.com/a/author-store-is-launched | Want your Username changed? http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ |
| 14:41.11 | Pneumatus | is there a way to tell if a raid member is mouseover an interactable object like a chest? |
| 14:42.23 | Fisker | Kaelten i disagree |
| 14:42.31 | Fisker | i want a new harddrive |
| 14:42.55 | Yivry | who doesnt :P |
| 14:43.06 | Yivry | even I, and I just bought a new pc :P |
| 14:43.23 | Yivry | (those ssds are just too expensive) |
| 14:43.42 | Fisker | naw |
| 14:44.24 | Fisker | want a 80GB X25M and a 2TB Caviar Black |
| 14:46.46 | Zeksie | Pneumatus: no. only indications are the tooltip and cursor change I believe |
| 14:47.29 | Pneumatus | Zeksie: as i though, so other users would have to be running an addon that sends messages if they are mouseover-ing a chest or somethng |
| 14:47.45 | Zeksie | yeh |
| 14:47.59 | Zeksie | other than players, there's little to nothing that indicates interaction with the world |
| 14:48.10 | Fisker | slaps Zeksie around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:48.35 | Pneumatus | i wonder how other loot tracking/dkp mods handle chests |
| 14:49.09 | Zeksie | badly. one of our guys runs something, and loot from chest often gets attributed to something 30 mins ago |
| 14:49.32 | Pneumatus | HeadCount just attributes it to Trash Mobs until you change it in the loot management popup |
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| 14:49.56 | Pneumatus | as it relies on someone in the raid having a boss corpse targetted |
| 14:50.11 | Gagorian | anyone have experience with getting your addon removed from www.brothersoft.com? |
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| 14:54.05 | Zeksie | dunno. but just sent them a msg.. |
| 14:54.09 | Zeksie | Hello. Please remove Utopia and ZOMGBuffs from www.brothersoft.com. I do not appreciate having to support my mods when they are supplied by your four months out of date. |
| 14:54.19 | WobNet | mail them? |
| 14:54.26 | Zeksie | contact us link at bottom |
| 14:54.26 | WobNet | http://www.brothersoft.com/info/contact_us/ |
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| 14:56.27 | Fisker | DMCA them |
| 14:56.28 | Fisker | up the ass |
| 14:56.52 | Codayus | I hate people like them. |
| 14:56.56 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Ammo * r260 modules/Cooldowns.lua: watch for SPELL_RESURRECT to catch rebirth |
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| 14:57.21 | Codayus | Haven't seen them mirror WoW mods before, but they do slurp down and mirror whatever random software their bots can find to try and drive traffic. :( |
| 15:00.10 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6029 Ulduar (3 files in 1 directory): koKR Update |
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| 15:07.11 | Pneumatus | i laughed hard at http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/test-charlie.aspx |
| 15:07.23 | Pneumatus | install base of 4717 people |
| 15:07.35 | Pneumatus | What is this?? where did it come from?? description not in English. screen shots don't give any info at all. the only reason its still on my pc is cause ckknight name is on the additional authors list. please give any info that is available. |
| 15:07.35 | Pneumatus | thanks Mugs |
| 15:07.57 | WobNet | 8k downloads =P |
| 15:08.25 | profalbert | 57 per day! |
| 15:08.36 | Grum | even better; http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/test-charlie.aspx#410677 |
| 15:08.40 | Ackis | I'm a proud user |
| 15:08.46 | Grum | oh Pneumatus pasted it :( |
| 15:09.16 | WobNet | and I bet they'll update it if ckk updates the files =P |
| 15:10.01 | Grum | yup ;( |
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| 15:10.19 | Pneumatus | i surprised it hasnt had any pledgie donations |
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| 15:10.53 | profalbert | it must be throwing errors |
| 15:11.01 | Pneumatus | yup |
| 15:12.03 | profalbert | Then Ackis is lying! |
| 15:12.15 | quiescens | gasp |
| 15:12.19 | Ackis | me?!? |
| 15:12.39 | profalbert | you can't use it, because there is nothing to use |
| 15:12.47 | Grum | omg, stake him! |
| 15:12.47 | profalbert | sounds kinda philosophical |
| 15:12.56 | quiescens | if a tree falls in the forest? |
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| 15:38.59 | Repo | 10shamanwarning: 03Silmano 07master * v1.1.14-1-gd37fb71 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] v1.1.15: |
| 15:39.24 | Repo | 10shamanwarning: 03Silmano 04v1.1.15 * 7a03173 /: [new tag] |
| 15:39.27 | Repo | - Added Maelstrom warning. |
| 15:41.42 | steev | is there an addon like... questhelper or the blizzard quest/achievement tracker, but for reps? |
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| 15:42.05 | steev | i'd like to have em out as i'm working on them (i'm still leveling) |
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| 15:46.19 | Jygga | steev blizz ui has a rep tracker build in doesnt it? |
| 15:47.15 | Mikk | and then get an addon that switches it to the faction you last gained rep with |
| 15:47.17 | Mikk | tadaa |
| 15:47.24 | steev | ... |
| 15:48.09 | steev | Jygga: no, you can switch your xp bar with a rep bar (has to be programmatically entered for oUF frames) |
| 15:48.19 | steev | i was hoping something more like the achievement tracker itself |
| 15:48.52 | Mikk | there probably is. |
| 15:49.06 | steev | http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/battlegrounds.png |
| 15:50.44 | Fisker | must be a bug steev |
| 15:50.46 | Fisker | or premades |
| 15:50.59 | Grum | or just afking! |
| 15:51.11 | Fisker | no |
| 15:51.19 | steev | what? |
| 15:51.21 | steev | i don't afk |
| 15:51.24 | Fisker | unless you mean alliance afk'ing |
| 15:51.30 | Grum | omg steev is an afker! |
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| 15:51.37 | steev | negative. |
| 15:51.42 | Fisker | reports steev as afk |
| 15:51.50 | Grum | oh its worse |
| 15:51.52 | steev | :( |
| 15:51.58 | Grum | steev is a nonlvl80 afker |
| 15:51.59 | Fisker | i hate jerks btw |
| 15:52.15 | steev | i just want like, how it shows the towers i have left to defend, but being rep instead |
| 15:52.20 | Fisker | There was some time that a person would make the raid flag me afk |
| 15:54.06 | steev | annoying, but easy to fix |
| 15:54.25 | steev | slaps Grum about with a large Fisker |
| 15:54.49 | Fisker | sure |
| 15:55.10 | steev | but yes, still annoying that someone would keep doing that |
| 15:55.13 | Fisker | but you don't gain any honor with the first debuff either do you? |
| 15:55.42 | steev | dunno, i've never gotten the debuff :-P |
| 15:56.39 | Fisker | Starcraft 2 looks so finished |
| 15:56.42 | Fisker | just release it :( |
| 15:56.59 | steev | sorry Fisker :( |
| 15:57.15 | durcyn | they can't release it until i'm done beta testing it, Fisker, i told them to wait |
| 15:57.36 | Codayus | Nobody wants sc2, gief d3. |
| 15:58.32 | ulic | bah, how about "Unnamed" MMO, you know blizzard is just leveling to the cap first before releasing. |
| 16:00.05 | Codayus | Yeah, that'd be interesting too. |
| 16:00.09 | Codayus | Depending on what it is. |
| 16:00.42 | Codayus | WoW2...would be boring. :-) |
| 16:00.54 | sylvanaar | Diablo 2 was |
| 16:01.13 | sylvanaar | but you were all mostly too young for it to be a true sequel |
| 16:01.13 | Yssaril | Codayus: they already said that they wouldnt follow any of their storylines |
| 16:02.36 | Gagorian | I agree d3 > all |
| 16:02.38 | Codayus | *shrug* Yeah, but... There was a lot more scope for Diablo 1 to be improved upon, IMHO, partly due to the nature of an MMO. |
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| 16:03.50 | Codayus | Bliz has already added new classes, zones, races, and in Cataclysm is redoing a lot of old content and adding a new graphic feature (non-fail water). The game's progressed a LOT since 1.0, and isn't - IMHO - nearly as dated as Diablo 1 was the same period after it was released. |
| 16:04.24 | Codayus | ....wait, I just realized, I completely misinterrpeted your comment. |
| 16:04.31 | nicoli_s | but diablo had such awesome expansions as hellfire, where you fight spooky aliens! |
| 16:04.34 | Codayus | Or maybe not. Gah, 4am. Why am I not asleep. :-( |
| 16:06.30 | Gagorian | You should live in Finland, 7 pm. Plenty of time to sleep |
| 16:06.34 | steev | Grum: oh, i also happen to be leveling this guy via pvp (once I left the DK starter area) |
| 16:13.40 | sylvanaar | Codayus im wondering how i am awake...lol |
| 16:14.04 | Codayus | In my case, insomnia. |
| 16:14.10 | Codayus | I can't speculate as to you. :-) |
| 16:15.11 | sylvanaar | i want to get some mroe of this error reporting stuff done - but..., thatnks for reminding me - i need to go to bed now... |
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| 16:17.36 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * da2324c LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 16:17.39 | Repo | da2324c: Added debug code to GUID decompression to track down why it's bugging out sometimes |
| 16:17.42 | Repo | 65decc0: - Fixed a leaked global |
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| 16:29.45 | yoshimo | is it possible to convert the authorrewardpoints to a gamecard that gets delivered by e-mail? |
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| 16:32.39 | steev | woot |
| 16:32.43 | steev | 9 more towers to go! |
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| 16:47.52 | Adirelle | Shadowed: I found the issue with LHC4 and my addon: I messed up with the callbacks arguments |
| 16:48.11 | Shadowed | Adirelle: Ah what did you do? Might need to make the docs more clear |
| 16:48.32 | Adirelle | I took spellId as healflags and apparently nourish spell id did not pass the flag test |
| 16:48.42 | Adirelle | actually the doc miss the event |
| 16:48.49 | Adirelle | which is added by CBH |
| 16:49.10 | Shadowed | aha oops |
| 16:49.17 | Adirelle | e.g. HealComm_HealStarted(casterGUID, ... is actually HealComm_HealStarted(event, casterGUID, ... |
| 16:49.48 | Adirelle | I had the event argument, but I dropped another one (mainly because I put it in _) |
| 16:50.35 | Shadowed | I still neeed to figure out why the decompression code is sometimes bugging out |
| 16:50.40 | Shadowed | since it's a really weird/obscure issue |
| 16:52.47 | Torhal|Sleep | orionshock: Ok, let me put it this way: It's the _considerate_ thing to do, so you are not forcing every person who uses your library to modify their AddOn because you break the API. |
| 16:52.50 | Adirelle | actually I happened one or two time |
| 16:52.54 | Adirelle | s/I/it/ |
| 16:53.04 | Adirelle | and I could not reproduce it |
| 16:53.07 | Shadowed | yea |
| 16:53.30 | Shadowed | It's not a nil GUID error, because if it was there would be either a concat error or the decompression would exit before the string.byte call |
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| 16:54.39 | Shadowed | it should be a semi-valid GUID too given it's matching everything after 0x |
| 16:54.54 | Adirelle | hrm, still no luck with regrowth hot part |
| 16:55.00 | Shadowed | Regrowth hot isn't supported yet |
| 16:55.03 | Adirelle | oh |
| 16:55.07 | Adirelle | overlooked that |
| 16:55.17 | Shadowed | Regrowth hot, Lifebloom bloom and Sacred Shield + FOL hot aren't in |
| 16:55.17 | Adirelle | "working as intended" then ^^$ |
| 16:55.40 | Shadowed | I have to redo it to use manual data rather than automatic tooltip scanning to support that + the PTR tooltip change |
| 16:55.53 | Shadowed | since on the PTR the Lifebloom tick estimate goes up by 100 from the change :< |
| 16:56.30 | Adirelle | calculating lifebloom tick/bloom from spell power is beyond my comprenhension |
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| 16:56.58 | Shadowed | it's not that complicated really, it's just a lot of little details that makes it annoying |
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| 16:57.10 | Adirelle | wowiki formulaes seem not to match the value I tried to calculate |
| 16:57.36 | Adirelle | let alone calculating bonuses from idols |
| 16:57.55 | Shadowed | idols are pretty simple, none of them do anything special |
| 16:58.06 | Shadowed | but EJ spreadsheets or DrDamage are best for formula info |
| 16:59.51 | Adirelle | what annoys me really is that the idols states "+125 spell power on lifebloom tick", which translates to a woohooping ... wait for it ... +14 life per tick... |
| 17:01.26 | Adirelle | anyway, LHC4 is very promising, nice work |
| 17:01.38 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 17:02.23 | yoshimo | there are already several requests on various addons to include lhc40 |
| 17:02.47 | Shadowed | It's still another 2-4 weeks before I do a stable tag :< |
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| 17:03.21 | Shadowed | Need to move it to using static data for spells, add Lifebloom bloom/Regrowth hot, check the comm code and do a beta tag, then after thats all good and tested do a stable |
| 17:03.31 | Adirelle | after that, we would just pray that you would not vanish in the air ^^ |
| 17:04.14 | yoshimo | do you have a second account to test your comm-module , zeksie didn't ;) |
| 17:04.28 | Shadowed | I do |
| 17:05.55 | Shadowed | I put 400 comments into LHC specifically so if I do stop working on it for some reason, someone knows why it does what :p |
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| 17:08.56 | Adirelle | see the incoming HoT portion on health bars is just priceless |
| 17:08.59 | Adirelle | seeing* |
| 17:10.01 | Gnarfoz | I just don't like the visual style of extending the incoming healing bar out over the border of the normal health bar, as many UFs do :\ |
| 17:10.01 | yoshimo | im currently redoing my ui, including new unitframes ;) |
| 17:10.41 | Gnarfoz | because using that would force me to leave space between UFs to account for the incoming healing bar |
| 17:10.45 | Adirelle | I made so the incoming healing do not get out, in a grid-like layout it is really annoyinf |
| 17:10.48 | Adirelle | annoying* |
| 17:10.50 | Gnarfoz | truncating it at the normal bar's cap, like Grid does, I like more :) |
| 17:10.54 | Adirelle | should learn to type one day |
| 17:11.15 | asmodai | Sup homies!? |
| 17:14.46 | Adirelle | I'm wondering about the accuracy when displaying incoming heals in the next 3 seconds, updating only on LH4 callbacks |
| 17:16.24 | dodga | vhaarr: Anything special you need to test in LibSink-2.0 with Parrot? |
| 17:17.04 | dodga | vhaarr: I used Witch Hunt to output test messages in a Parrot scroll area, and that worked |
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| 17:37.34 | Shadowed | got pulled away from the phone, anyways |
| 17:38.20 | Shadowed | yoshimo trial accounts are a lovely thing, I think I've gone through 4-6 trial accounts when I do testing :> |
| 17:39.05 | Shadowed | I don't really like the expanding the bars outside of the normal health bar either Gnarfoz, next SUF is going to let people cap it since HC40 lets me add more configuraiton with what heals to show ec |
| 17:39.07 | Shadowed | etc |
| 17:39.13 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: woot |
| 17:39.18 | Gnarfoz | awsum |
| 17:39.36 | Shadowed | don't you use SUF? I don't remember |
| 17:48.03 | yoshimo | yes, trial accounts are great,there even was a tool that created as many accounts as you wanted, the only thing you had to do is type in the captcha |
| 17:48.42 | Shadowed | give me a dev server or an ATR that is always up and I'd be happy :< |
| 17:52.13 | yoshimo | atr? |
| 17:52.27 | Pneumatus | yoshimo ForteWarlock -> ForteExorcist now |
| 17:52.32 | nevcairiel | Addon Test Realm :P |
| 17:52.35 | Pneumatus | they still send the same prefix, but the addon name has changed |
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| 17:57.36 | Camci | #showtooltip Shadow Word: Death /stopcasting /cast [target=focus] Shadow Word: Death; Shadow Word: Death - doesnt seem to work after the patch, did they change anything? |
| 17:58.00 | yoshimo | i have a few more addons to add, but i need to check them online , one of them uses a lot of different prefixes again... |
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| 18:01.15 | asmodai | What's the average respawn timer on most rare elites? 6-8 hours? |
| 18:01.46 | yoshimo | i was told so , yes |
| 18:02.12 | Camci | anyone good with macros can check if this is correct? #showtooltip Shadow Word: Death /stopcasting /cast [target=focus] Shadow Word: Death; Shadow Word: Death |
| 18:02.16 | Camci | after patch it tells me i have no target |
| 18:02.42 | asmodai | yoshimo: will be fun trying to get these rare elites then >_< |
| 18:03.35 | yoshimo | the most annoying rare mob is vyragosa, addon rings and you think you might have found the protodrake.. :P |
| 18:04.11 | Pneumatus | Camci, think you need a [] after the target=focus condition |
| 18:04.22 | Pneumatus | and then you can not put the duplicate sw:d |
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| 18:04.43 | Pneumatus | #showtooltip Shadow Word: Death /stopcasting /cast [target=focus][] Shadow Word: Death |
| 18:05.28 | Pneumatus | although you might want [target=focus,exists][harm,exists] |
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| 18:17.08 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: yes, I do use sUF, very much to my liking =) |
| 18:22.25 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2424 Docs/Main.txt: Main page update. |
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| 18:27.26 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2425 Docs (2 files in 1 directory): More doc updates. |
| 18:27.31 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: any reports of BW modules not activating at all? currently doing mimiron 10 hard, and the mod just doesn't come up at all |
| 18:30.51 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 18:31.35 | Fisker | Ackismen |
| 18:33.35 | Gnarfoz | oh well |
| 18:33.59 | Gnarfoz | modules.xml in the alpha builds all have the debug lines comment out the actual modules |
| 18:34.03 | Gnarfoz | so nothing besides the core loads |
| 18:34.04 | Gnarfoz | :) |
| 18:34.15 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:34.39 | Stanzilla | hnng |
| 18:36.01 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: thx |
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| 18:36.29 | yoshimo | funky backported all important fixxes to the releaseversion, no need to run alpha |
| 18:37.43 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: ? just telling him, :P |
| 18:37.49 | Gnarfoz | might even be intended |
| 18:40.39 | Repo | 10fu-bar_reagent-fu: 03Ackis 07master * v3.03-7-g2d4acf8 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 18:40.42 | Repo | 2d4acf8: typo fix. |
| 18:40.45 | Repo | 767f626: Move stuff out of on init and into onenable, bit of an optimization. |
| 18:40.48 | Repo | 0de1d1c: Remove ;'s |
| 18:40.51 | Repo | 30c6f24: Doc update. |
| 18:41.38 | Camci | Pneumatus: Thank you. so something like this? #showtooltip Shadow Word: Death /stopcasting /cast [target=focus,exists][harm,exists] Shadow Word: Death; Shadow Word: Death |
| 18:41.55 | Camci | i just want it to shadow word death my focus target :P |
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| 18:43.38 | Pneumatus | #showtooltip Shadow Word: Death /stopcasting /cast [target=focus,exists][harm,exists] Shadow Word: Death should work |
| 18:43.53 | Pneumatus | that will SW:D your focus if it exists, else your target if you can harm it, and it exists |
| 18:44.46 | Pneumatus | if you have no focus and a friendly target, or no target it will do nothing |
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| 18:45.36 | Gnarfoz | you don't need to specify "Shadow Word: Death" in the #showtooltip line, if that's the only spell in the macro |
| 18:46.37 | Pneumatus | also true |
| 18:46.52 | Pneumatus | although it might not show the tooltip, but it will show the icon |
| 18:47.51 | Camci | cool thank you |
| 18:49.03 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 18:49.04 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz: You can cap the incoming stuff in SUF I just don't expose it, if you do /script ShadowUF.db.profile.units.raid.incHeal.cap = 1 will make it not go outside the bar for raid frames for example |
| 18:49.14 | Gnarfoz | #showtooltip shows the correct icon and tooltip automagically |
| 18:49.26 | Gnarfoz | #showtooltip spellname/itemname forces it to show whatever you specify |
| 18:50.00 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: neat |
| 18:50.04 | Zhinjio | I've setup my for-fun fantasy hockey league again this year. If you're interested in participating, please PM me. |
| 18:50.21 | Gnarfoz | I only use it for player/target/tot/focus/focustarget and sometimes in arena, but even there, that could be useful |
| 18:50.26 | Gnarfoz | back to mimiron hard now |
| 18:50.27 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:53.09 | Shadowed | hum how does wowace pull libs for the packager? If you say latest it grabs the latest tag, not the latest packaged version? |
| 18:55.28 | Gnarfoz | I think so, but don't take my word for it |
| 18:55.36 | Gnarfoz | is there something about it in the KB? :) |
| 18:55.46 | Grum | It appears BigWigs is not loading ToC modules atm, is that known? |
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| 18:56.54 | Shadowed | doesn't say, although given it says tag which I just realized that answers that |
| 18:58.03 | Grum | vhaarr: can it be that for some reason the bigwigs modules for ToC dont load? |
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| 19:00.52 | Grum | vhaarr: downgrading to the current 'release' works -- is this because of the config stuff? |
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| 19:05.11 | Aeyan | Probably - I believe the conversion stuff hasn't made it into the release yet |
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| 19:09.07 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r211 / (3 files in 1 directory): fix achievementTracker display/hide of tooltip |
| 19:09.11 | Repo | fix questsInformations module |
| 19:12.13 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r212 questsInformations.lua: remove debug in questsInformations module |
| 19:31.31 | sb|work | YAY |
| 19:31.35 | sb|work | pandora's plea, finally |
| 19:31.40 | sb|work | & conquerer of ulduar completed |
| 19:32.03 | Pneumatus | you must have more mana than me now :< |
| 19:32.29 | sb|work | 34.3k raidbuffed (no flask) |
| 19:32.32 | Pneumatus | ive only had a cloak upgrade so far in coliseum :< |
| 19:32.42 | sb|work | oh wait |
| 19:32.45 | sb|work | wrong gloves :p |
| 19:32.49 | Pneumatus | 34.5k no flask |
| 19:33.07 | sb|work | 34.4 it is :p |
| 19:33.20 | sb|work | but 2 items non-int sockets |
| 19:33.23 | sb|work | (sp+haste there) |
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| 19:34.34 | sb|work | Pneumatus: giev cloak :( |
| 19:36.37 | sb|work | mhhh |
| 19:36.49 | sb|work | heartmender circle or band of the invoker... :/ |
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| 19:42.31 | sb|work | Pneumatus: help! :p |
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| 19:48.29 | Gnarfoz | Grum, Aeyan: current alpha builds have @debug@ tags commenting out all Include lines in all modules.xml files, so nothing is loaded. :) |
| 19:49.42 | Grum | Gnarfoz: so useful ;( |
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| 20:01.25 | Repo | 10wtf: 03smb * r13 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:01.28 | Repo | Added some options (BAD IMPLEMENTATION!!!! Have to do it better When i have time - you should reload UI after changing some options) - But its okay for now. |
| 20:01.38 | sb|work | yay... :o |
| 20:01.50 | sb|work | i should add a "do not use this" :/ |
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| 20:11.38 | Fisker | slaps sb|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:12.01 | Fisker | you cannot stop me |
| 20:12.34 | Fisker | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19675728341&sid=1&pageNo=7#130 <-ITT: GC gets owned and gets butthurt |
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| 20:22.58 | Repo | 10tributeloot: 03Euthy 04r18-release * r12 : test tag |
| 20:23.17 | Repo | 10tributeloot: 03Euthy 04r19-release * r13 : test tag |
| 20:23.52 | steev | well, he DID say they were going to fix it before S7 |
| 20:25.52 | Baraius | Anybody done a p4 to Hg conversion? |
| 20:27.18 | yoshimo | p4? |
| 20:29.14 | Cavisty^gerber | are the valkyr twins in TOC? |
| 20:30.19 | Adirelle | Shadowed: LHC4 decompressGUID error again |
| 20:30.22 | yoshimo | are you talking about the current bwalpha ? |
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| 20:32.48 | Shadowed | Adirelle are you using latest with the print message? |
| 20:32.58 | Adirelle | yes |
| 20:33.01 | Adirelle | it passed through it |
| 20:33.03 | Shadowed | what was the GUID it printed |
| 20:33.08 | Baraius | Perforce |
| 20:33.11 | Shadowed | no message just an error? |
| 20:33.13 | Adirelle | it didn't print anything |
| 20:33.14 | Adirelle | yes |
| 20:33.18 | Shadowed | .... weird |
| 20:33.21 | Shadowed | what was the error this time |
| 20:33.23 | Adirelle | I changed the debug to pcall string.format |
| 20:33.23 | Baraius | Heh...wrong channel :-) |
| 20:33.29 | yoshimo | Cavisty^gerber , if you're using an alpha of bigwigs, you won't find them in the toc, they are only added in the xml now. and for now they are all covered in debug-tags |
| 20:33.40 | Adirelle | bad argument #8, expected number not nil |
| 20:33.58 | Shadowed | mmmmm |
| 20:34.01 | Shadowed | line #64? |
| 20:34.23 | Cavisty^gerber | yoshimo no i mean are they in the instance toc |
| 20:34.50 | sb|work | mhh calidore |
| 20:34.52 | sb|work | err Caleb| |
| 20:35.10 | Shadowed | try changing decompressGUID to http://gist.github.com/181105 Adirelle |
| 20:35.22 | Adirelle | Shadowed: yes, I think this should output me the invalid GUID : http://paste.wowace.com/skfntqe8bwam5pvj/ |
| 20:35.32 | Shadowed | that too |
| 20:35.40 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta3-45-g5dd44d8 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 20:35.41 | sb|work | Caleb|: http://pastey.net/124664 <-- whats that? |
| 20:35.42 | Repo | 5dd44d8: Add some defaults for bar provider modules that I should have added when |
| 20:35.45 | Repo | 65207ba: Better fix to deal with MT frames getting set properly when loading in |
| 20:35.46 | Shadowed | that works |
| 20:35.51 | Shadowed | oh actually |
| 20:35.53 | Shadowed | print out usc too |
| 20:36.10 | Shadowed | the variable that is |
| 20:36.23 | yoshimo | Cavisty^gerber : "Modified : /trunk/Coliseum/BigWigs_Coliseum.toc : - load all modules via a modules.xml construction, no need to add a new module to 2 files anymore" |
| 20:37.26 | Adirelle | btw, I'm also using LHC3 and the wrapper |
| 20:37.27 | Pneumatus | is BW dropping the idea of splitting everything into LoD mods for each instance? |
| 20:37.32 | Adirelle | if that matters |
| 20:37.48 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 20:37.53 | Shadowed | maybe |
| 20:38.00 | Caleb| | supposed to be some version check sb|work :P not exactly working as intented as of yet |
| 20:38.22 | Pneumatus | why no anubarak kill, Caleb| :< |
| 20:38.37 | Caleb| | not too easy |
| 20:38.45 | Caleb| | and ppl are afk |
| 20:38.57 | Caleb| | pointless to waste tries with shitty setup |
| 20:39.04 | Shadowed | shouldn't be |
| 20:39.27 | Shadowed | the wrapper interacts with the data tables in HC40 directly so it doesn't need to do any sort of GUID compression/decompression |
| 20:39.48 | Shadowed | I think it's just an issue in a bad GUID, what class are you Adirelle? |
| 20:42.01 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou 043.2 beta14 * r213 : tag as 3.2 beta14 |
| 20:42.25 | yoshimo | caleb, is there a difference between hardmode and normal mode except of mobs dealing more dmg? |
| 20:42.49 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2426 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:42.52 | Repo | Added missing Jewelcrafting trainer data, tickets 697,736,763,773 |
| 20:42.54 | Repo | Added a missing trainer to the trainer database. |
| 20:42.55 | Caleb| | are you asking anubarak? |
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| 20:44.16 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r6030 Coliseum/Anubarak.lua: ruRU update |
| 20:48.40 | yoshimo | caleb , i was talkng about the whole trial of the crusader |
| 20:49.00 | Caleb| | yeah basically more damage and a couple of extra abilties |
| 20:50.12 | yoshimo | what kind of abilities? thats more intresting than extra dmg |
| 20:50.44 | Caleb| | like for example on Lord Jaraxuss, the mother sharaz like adds have an ability called soothing kiss |
| 20:50.55 | Caleb| | they put it on a couple of ppl |
| 20:51.03 | Caleb| | and when you cast a spell, it will lock that school |
| 20:51.36 | Caleb| | or on twins, you will get debuffs that will force an individual to switch from light to dark or vica versa |
| 20:52.22 | yoshimo | spell lock was already introduced in the ignis-encounter |
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| 20:53.53 | Adirelle | Shadowed: druid |
| 20:54.33 | Adirelle | it seems to happen only when someone else in the raid is using LHC3 (as I assume there is no much LHC4 around) |
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| 20:55.18 | Adirelle | I have some difficult to test it as I'm doing WSGs to get grouped :o |
| 20:58.11 | Shadowed | It might be, but the stack traces and the fact that compression is only done when sending a spell and decompression when HC40 is parsing a spell means I dunno |
| 20:58.26 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2427 RecipeDB/ARL-Inscription.lua: |
| 20:58.29 | Repo | Added/removed missing/incorrect Inscription trainer data, ticket 781 |
| 20:58.30 | Shadowed | it's definitely not a bad GUID, it might be a GUID is being compressed twice and thats whats breaking it |
| 20:58.47 | Shadowed | er bad = nil |
| 20:59.18 | Shadowed | the debug will tell us though |
| 20:59.49 | Adirelle | now I've seen this like twice in two days |
| 21:00.06 | Adirelle | so this may take some time |
| 21:00.10 | Shadowed | UnitGUID returns a valid GUID or nil right |
| 21:01.26 | Skizelli | Can anyone recommend a mod similar to BattlegroundFu? Ace, Broker or otherwise. |
| 21:01.28 | Shadowed | The fact that it rarely happens is the confusing part... I literally cannot think of any issue that would be causing this that wouldn't trigger another error |
| 21:01.49 | Shadowed | and I'm sure it's going to be something stupid like a misspelled variable |
| 21:02.44 | Torhal | luac -l|grep GLOBAL |
| 21:02.47 | Torhal | :D |
| 21:03.08 | Shadowed | It's not, I already ran a script to check :p |
| 21:03.15 | Torhal | Heh |
| 21:03.26 | Shadowed | it's going to drive me nuts until I know |
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| 21:04.12 | yoshimo | all we have to do is , run the latest lhc4 and reproduce it? |
| 21:04.21 | Shadowed | yea |
| 21:04.53 | Shadowed | Although it's more like, run latest LHC and hope you find the 1" needle in the haystack instead of the 1.10" needle |
| 21:10.14 | yoshimo | shadowed, could you give me the url of the lhc4 repo? wowace has internal server errors |
| 21:11.25 | Shadowed | git@git.wowace.com:wow/libhealcomm-4-0/mainline.git |
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| 21:19.56 | cubicool | Is there a simple mod that will tell me when I've found a buyer for an auction, rather that just the chat message? (And not Auctioneer, which is giagantic and scary, though I'm sure a great mod) |
| 21:28.21 | Pneumatus | how would you want it to tell you? |
| 21:28.28 | cubicool | Just a popup |
| 21:28.37 | cubicool | Really what I'm looking for is some event I gues |
| 21:28.42 | cubicool | AUCTION_SOLD |
| 21:29.13 | Zeksie | there's no event. just hte chat msg in CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
| 21:29.22 | Fisker | I AM GENTLEMAN FINN |
| 21:29.29 | Zeksie | I did one a long time ago when i played the market |
| 21:29.30 | Pneumatus | chatlog filter to the auction sold message, to call a staticpopup |
| 21:29.58 | Zeksie | well. i just pulled out the item name and looked up a saved list of what i had on auction. keep running total etc. |
| 21:34.49 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r287 core.lua: remove debug added in previous commit |
| 21:37.33 | cubicool | Is there a small mod I can start dissecting to see how to interface with the Chat system without diving into something complicated like Prat? |
| 21:37.44 | Pneumatus | ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter("ERR_AUCTION_SOLD_S", function(...) print(...) end) |
| 21:38.01 | cubicool | Easy enough. |
| 21:38.19 | Pneumatus | youll probably want to do something more clever than print(...) tho |
| 21:38.37 | cubicool | I'd send myself a message using WIM if possible. |
| 21:38.43 | cubicool | That's the ideal scenario. |
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| 21:47.39 | Fisker | snoboller Zeksie |
| 21:49.38 | harl | why does installing tekkub's Kennel via the curse client not include the tekkonfig directory, although the same zip file does contain it when downloaded manually? |
| 21:49.49 | Gnarfoz | gahhh |
| 21:50.05 | Gnarfoz | can GMs reverse "I talked to the wrong watcher"? |
| 21:50.17 | Gnarfoz | I know it doesn't reset on instance soft reset ;\ |
| 21:50.19 | nicoli_s | http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/01/arts/01DINO.html?ex=1084388448&ei=1&en=4acfaab545bdf565 |
| 21:50.50 | Hjalte | harl: You using addons with libraries included as default in CC? |
| 21:51.07 | harl | what? |
| 21:51.13 | Fisker | Gnarfoz it doesn't look like it |
| 21:51.36 | Fisker | atleast there was a thread on the us forums about some guy griefing a guild by activating all keepers |
| 21:51.43 | Fisker | and they would neither reset them nor look into who did it |
| 21:52.03 | Hjalte | harl: Are you using regular or nolib versions? To check, you can see if any of your addons have a -nolib behind their revision number. |
| 21:52.15 | Fisker | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19377970107&pageNo=1&sid=1#5 |
| 21:52.40 | harl | Hjalte: i don't see how i'd be able to tell the curse client to do otherwise. so yes, it does download all addons with libraries included. |
| 21:53.55 | Hjalte | harl: There are two ways for the curse client to download the addons in regards to libraries. It can either get a zip with the libraries for the addon included or it can download a bare zip and then download the libraries separately. If you don't know which you are using, you will be using the first option. And then I suppose tekkonfig should be in the zip. |
| 21:53.57 | harl | i haven't been using nolib addons for over a year |
| 21:54.41 | harl | yes, i know it is. that's what i'm basically asking about, why it doesn't extract it with the rest |
| 21:55.58 | harl | manually downloading kennel includes tekkonfig and my cc downloads all other addons fine (including their libraries), so i don't know why it isn't there. |
| 21:56.14 | sylvanaar | does anyone know a good ide to work with mySQL? |
| 21:56.38 | sylvanaar | that isnt myphpadmin |
| 21:57.22 | Fisker | mysql |
| 21:57.41 | sylvanaar | what, and a text editor? |
| 21:57.47 | Fisker | naw |
| 21:57.49 | Fisker | manual input ftw |
| 21:57.55 | Hjalte | I used sqlyog some time ago |
| 21:58.39 | sylvanaar | well, for mssql, i use thier SQL server management studio which comes free with it |
| 21:59.13 | Fisker | omg |
| 22:00.16 | sylvanaar | ? |
| 22:00.32 | Fisker | Chrome doesn't just update now |
| 22:00.36 | Fisker | you have to click a butan now |
| 22:01.23 | Repo | 10wtf: 03smb * r14 WTFrames.toc: Change version # |
| 22:01.23 | sylvanaar | how old school |
| 22:01.34 | robotusch | :( |
| 22:01.59 | Pneumatus | @project-version@ tbh |
| 22:02.43 | sylvanaar | i thoughg that there was a version added by the curse packager |
| 22:03.03 | Pneumatus | there's a metafield added by the packager as well |
| 22:03.19 | Pneumatus | ## X-Curse-Packaged-Version: r6011 |
| 22:03.22 | sylvanaar | thats the one |
| 22:03.40 | sylvanaar | the only one guaranteed to be correct |
| 22:03.43 | Pneumatus | which i think is always equal to @project-version@ |
| 22:03.48 | sylvanaar | it is |
| 22:04.17 | sb|work | mhh... |
| 22:04.19 | Torhal | @project-version@ is guaranteed to be correct, so throwing that in the Version line is appropriate |
| 22:04.24 | sb|work | i should fix that :p |
| 22:04.32 | sb|work | later... |
| 22:04.48 | sylvanaar | no, the authors should be putttin that int their version lilne |
| 22:04.51 | Pneumatus | it wont be correct for svn co |
| 22:05.11 | Pneumatus | but people using svn co should know what version they are running anyway |
| 22:05.12 | sylvanaar | but if they dont want to - they dont have to |
| 22:05.25 | sylvanaar | Pneumatus they arent checking out a version |
| 22:06.04 | sylvanaar | if you use the packager's substitution keywords, then the only way to get an 'acctual version' is from the packager |
| 22:06.13 | Torhal | Aye |
| 22:06.22 | sylvanaar | otherwise you are using THE 'development version' |
| 22:07.09 | Torhal | local version = GetAddOnMetadata(MODNAME, "Version") |
| 22:07.11 | Torhal | version = string.gsub(version, "@project.version@", " - Development") |
| 22:07.12 | Torhal | :D |
| 22:07.20 | sylvanaar | which is why we needed to get the packager to start adding version info |
| 22:07.44 | sylvanaar | because it is the only one that really knows the version |
| 22:07.48 | Fisker | slaps sylvanaar around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:08.00 | Torhal | Fiskers Fisker. |
| 22:08.01 | Arrowmaster | it does add version info |
| 22:08.54 | sylvanaar | in my code i do this: local minor_version = tonumber("@project-revision@") or 99999 |
| 22:09.02 | sylvanaar | for libraries |
| 22:09.07 | Arrowmaster | thats just bad |
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| 22:09.25 | Arrowmaster | you are using svn so fucking use $Revision$ |
| 22:09.31 | Fisker | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19717482622&sid=1 <-stop posting |
| 22:09.36 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster |
| 22:09.41 | sylvanaar | thats in my code |
| 22:09.59 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 22:10.11 | Arrowmaster | and i think youre an idiot for doing that |
| 22:10.14 | sylvanaar | you know good and well that the svn revision wont change unless i modify the file |
| 22:10.30 | Arrowmaster | a library should only have one file |
| 22:10.48 | Pneumatus | and the toc, and possibly an xml file |
| 22:11.08 | sylvanaar | when i check out a local library |
| 22:11.08 | sylvanaar | when will that number change |
| 22:11.31 | sylvanaar | ....it wont |
| 22:11.48 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 22:12.30 | Arrowmaster | atleast use the highest number between both @project-revision@ and $Revision$ |
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| 22:12.57 | sylvanaar | when i check out from svn i dont know @project-revision@ |
| 22:13.03 | sylvanaar | it just says |
| 22:13.05 | sylvanaar | "@project-revision@" |
| 22:13.21 | Zeksie | so it'll be 0 and you'll get the $Rev$ |
| 22:13.33 | sylvanaar | or, i just use 99999 |
| 22:13.45 | sylvanaar | because its my developement copy |
| 22:13.49 | Pneumatus | what if someone has your lib checked out as externals on 2 addons, and one copy is out of date |
| 22:13.55 | Arrowmaster | your development copy |
| 22:14.00 | Arrowmaster | but you fuck shit up for others |
| 22:15.14 | sylvanaar | how |
| 22:16.16 | sylvanaar | prepares for more insults |
| 22:16.30 | Arrowmaster | you create a downgrade path that could now break too |
| 22:18.44 | sylvanaar | so what should it be? what number would be any different than the one im using |
| 22:19.31 | Arrowmaster | you shouldnt be setting it to an arbitrary high number when it cant find one |
| 22:20.31 | taleden | imho you shouldn't be trusting some intermediate layer to fill in version numbers on a library in the first place |
| 22:20.40 | sylvanaar | its a dev copy, so it needs to be the highest number so that its the one which is running |
| 22:20.45 | taleden | shared code versioning is more complicated than some magic keyword that does everything |
| 22:20.55 | Arrowmaster | local minor_version = tonumber("@project-revision@") or tonumber(string.match("$Revision$", "%d+")) or 0 |
| 22:21.26 | taleden | if it's a dev copy, hardcode the version number to be the highest release version + 1 |
| 22:21.34 | sylvanaar | none of those things ensure that my development version is the version that runs |
| 22:21.44 | taleden | highest released + 1 |
| 22:21.47 | sylvanaar | taleden you cant |
| 22:21.54 | sylvanaar | ITS SVN |
| 22:21.55 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: damn right because you shouldnt be doing that |
| 22:22.04 | taleden | I know it's svn |
| 22:22.11 | taleden | you know what version you released last |
| 22:22.12 | Arrowmaster | since you are not the only person that can checkout from the svn |
| 22:22.17 | taleden | so you know what the highest number that should ever be seen is |
| 22:22.58 | asmodai | well that was fun |
| 22:23.05 | sylvanaar | i dont see how it hurts anyone |
| 22:23.08 | asmodai | join 2 bgs and won both relatively easily |
| 22:23.26 | taleden | if somebody pulls your svn code into their addon, they start packaging a version of your lib with a broken high version number |
| 22:23.35 | sylvanaar | WHOA |
| 22:23.45 | sylvanaar | thats wrong |
| 22:23.50 | Torhal | WHy the fuck would they do that? |
| 22:23.52 | Arrowmaster | and yet people do it |
| 22:23.59 | Shefki | ~seen ckknight |
| 22:24.02 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 20h 25m 10s ago, saying: 'don't call me a twat, you fucking asshole'. |
| 22:24.04 | taleden | i'm not saying what you're doing is guaranteed to break the world, i'm saying it's risky |
| 22:24.10 | Shefki | >.> |
| 22:24.13 | Torhal | Haha |
| 22:24.14 | Pneumatus | that would break if you used $Revision$ as well though |
| 22:24.27 | sylvanaar | it would |
| 22:24.29 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: only if they set svn:keywords on the file |
| 22:24.35 | sylvanaar | even worse |
| 22:24.43 | Pneumatus | or have it in autoprops, like a lot of people do |
| 22:25.00 | sylvanaar | that's a 'some idiot could fuck it up' argument. |
| 22:25.06 | taleden | which brings us back to, i think it's a bad idea to use magic version keywords in libraries |
| 22:25.11 | taleden | it's just asking for something to get screwy |
| 22:25.16 | Arrowmaster | the old wowace 'intro' crap used to tell a lot of people to set svn:keywords in autoprops but luckly new people dont have anything telling them to do that anymore |
| 22:25.22 | taleden | like the lib being backaged in some addon, and suddenly the lib gets assigned the version of the addon |
| 22:25.29 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Some idiot could also say _G = {} |
| 22:25.36 | sylvanaar | right |
| 22:26.11 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster usually tells me "those idiots need to go fuck themselves" or something along those lines |
| 22:26.29 | Arrowmaster | right but you shouldnt do anything to help them |
| 22:26.49 | Arrowmaster | personally i like the idea of using dates instead of revision numbers |
| 22:27.10 | sylvanaar | that breaks in the same way i hope you know that |
| 22:27.17 | Arrowmaster | somebody royally fucks shit up you yell at them then just push a new revision |
| 22:27.21 | Fisker | 4 weeks Gnarfoz |
| 22:27.31 | sylvanaar | its just like going 99999+date |
| 22:28.15 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck would you do 99999+date? |
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| 22:28.33 | sylvanaar | why would you have date |
| 22:29.26 | sylvanaar | if someone checks a dev copy of my lib into their addon - fuck em |
| 22:29.33 | Arrowmaster | because i hate how over half the libraries have some tonumber(string.match("$Revision", "%d+")) + 90000 in them |
| 22:29.47 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: 4 weeks what? |
| 22:29.51 | Fisker | 4 weeks |
| 22:30.03 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 22:30.08 | Fisker | Like SG:U and stuff |
| 22:30.08 | Gnarfoz | until you get out of jail! |
| 22:30.09 | taleden | it doesn't matter what you use if you're hardcoding it in the source file |
| 22:30.12 | Gnarfoz | sglol |
| 22:30.15 | Fisker | i wish Gnarfoz |
| 22:30.16 | taleden | so no matter who gets that file, it has the proper version attached to it |
| 22:30.18 | Fisker | i still got a few years left |
| 22:30.22 | Pneumatus | yeh, the artificial bump because of the change from old->new wowace is crappy :< |
| 22:30.34 | sylvanaar | actually with @project-revision@ it always gets replaced, so the only way they can fuck up is to not release through the packagger |
| 22:30.35 | Shefki | Fisker: SG:U looks stupid. IMHO |
| 22:30.36 | sb|work | mhh... more goa'uld? |
| 22:30.49 | Fisker | GOULD |
| 22:30.58 | Fisker | meh Shefki :o |
| 22:31.00 | taleden | what happens if they check your code into their svn, and then the packager packages their addon? |
| 22:31.01 | Shefki | Fisker: Seems like they went "ohh people like BSG let's make a Stargate like BSG." |
| 22:31.09 | taleden | it'll apply their addon's version to @project-revision@ instead of your lib's |
| 22:31.09 | Fisker | I like the moar serious tone of the series |
| 22:31.17 | Shefki | Except now it seems tired and done. |
| 22:31.18 | sylvanaar | it gets their svn's revision |
| 22:31.18 | Fisker | The fun aspect of SG died years ago |
| 22:31.21 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: but if they do release through the packager then they fuck up your library for anybody that uses that addon |
| 22:31.27 | taleden | which is not the right version of the lib |
| 22:31.45 | sylvanaar | they may or may not, depending on what the revision of their repo is |
| 22:31.58 | taleden | what are the changes their repo has the same revision as your lib's repo? |
| 22:32.00 | taleden | about zero? :) |
| 22:32.03 | taleden | chances* |
| 22:32.44 | taleden | it just seems like a needless convenience to me, it's not that bad to just hardcode a proper version number and increment it whenever you're going to tag a package |
| 22:32.47 | sylvanaar | the only way they can fuck up is if their repos revision is higher than mine |
| 22:32.56 | taleden | then you don't ever have to worry which magic keywords might be screwed up somewhere |
| 22:33.06 | Shefki | Fisker: I think it's gonna fail along the lines of Enterprise. It's too close to the end of the previous line to reboot the franchise and have it do well. |
| 22:33.08 | sylvanaar | taleden, are you new? |
| 22:33.39 | sylvanaar | its not meant to be rude, just asking |
| 22:33.40 | Fisker | maybe Shefki |
| 22:33.41 | Arrowmaster | Dongle got majorly fucked up by using $Revision$ due to people hard embedding it into their svn repos |
| 22:33.45 | Fisker | Enterprise was decent in the end though :( |
| 22:33.55 | taleden | no I'm not new, and yes I thought it was rude :) |
| 22:33.56 | Shefki | Fisker: I know. :( |
| 22:34.01 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster yeah - thats svn props though |
| 22:34.17 | Arrowmaster | the same will happen with packager replacements |
| 22:34.18 | sylvanaar | and no packager |
| 22:34.26 | taleden | believe me I ignore arrow as much as the next guy, but in this case I think he's right, at least for libraries |
| 22:34.31 | taleden | automagic version tags are asking for trouble |
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| 22:34.43 | Fisker | i lol'd @ atlantis' attempt to be srs business |
| 22:34.46 | Fisker | with that asgard episode |
| 22:34.49 | sylvanaar | YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE USING TAGGED EXTERNALS |
| 22:34.59 | sylvanaar | OMG |
| 22:35.12 | taleden | agreed. also, you are supposed to define a proper version number for your library and not just let the packager/svn/whatever make something up |
| 22:35.34 | taleden | it's the same principle -- there is a proper way to do things, but it's still worth trying to mitigate the damage if someone does it wrong |
| 22:35.39 | Shefki | Fisker: Atlantis turned people off with the wraith. I heared from a lot of people that just didn't watch becuase they couldn't stand the wraith. |
| 22:36.00 | sylvanaar | taleden you still havent answered me |
| 22:36.07 | Torhal | sylvanaar: There was a guy last night who hard-embedded every library into nquestlog, after wiping out its .pkgmeta |
| 22:36.15 | taleden | answered you about what? |
| 22:36.17 | Torhal | Those are the clueless folk who can fuck shit up for others. |
| 22:36.20 | Shefki | That said I really appreciated the fact that in Atlantis that we wern't entirely clearly the good guys. |
| 22:36.33 | sylvanaar | Torhal you know i deleted the entire branches tree of the svn once |
| 22:36.40 | sylvanaar | the wowace one |
| 22:36.50 | Torhal | Ouch. |
| 22:37.07 | Shefki | SG1 had us stumble into bad stuff. Atlantis had us do things that were downright wrong and get into trouble. I appreciated that depth. |
| 22:37.47 | Fisker | true |
| 22:37.47 | Fisker | :o |
| 22:39.00 | sylvanaar | im open to an actual solution if someone has one |
| 22:39.14 | Arrowmaster | youve been given two |
| 22:39.15 | taleden | what's the current version of your repo, that's getting filled in for you |
| 22:39.49 | sylvanaar | the development version needs to be the highest version so its the one running |
| 22:40.11 | Fisker | give me a WD2001FASS |
| 22:40.15 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
| 22:40.18 | Fisker | or i will destroy you Kaelten |
| 22:40.25 | Shefki | SG1 also benefited greatly from Pete Deluise's involvenment. Which I don't think he was really involved in the Atlantis writing. |
| 22:41.26 | taleden | how about putting your silly high trump-card version number in a separate file, that never gets put in svn at all |
| 22:41.37 | taleden | reference that file from the standalone lib's .toc, maybe inside #@debug@ |
| 22:42.13 | sylvanaar | taleden are you new? |
| 22:42.23 | sylvanaar | around here |
| 22:42.23 | Arrowmaster | no hes not |
| 22:42.23 | taleden | i answered you already, no i'm not and yes that's a rude thing to ask |
| 22:42.32 | Arrowmaster | and thats a valid idea, and a good one imho |
| 22:42.39 | taleden | arrow already has his fun going out of his way to be rude to me back in the day |
| 22:42.41 | sylvanaar | im not saying it isnt |
| 22:42.42 | taleden | i've been hazed already |
| 22:42.45 | sylvanaar | and I already said |
| 22:42.50 | Arrowmaster | i did? |
| 22:42.54 | sylvanaar | It wasnt ment rudely |
| 22:42.54 | taleden | yup |
| 22:43.08 | Arrowmaster | too many people its hard to remember |
| 22:43.14 | taleden | well i appreciate that, but what's the point of asking? |
| 22:43.17 | Fisker | http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/09/04/test.now/index.html?eref=rss_latest <-clearly didn't know about lorem ipsum |
| 22:43.24 | Shefki | Fisker: And you know honestly I don't think SG:U is really that much more serious. They've got that kid as comic relief. |
| 22:43.39 | taleden | either i have a point or i don't -- if i do it doesn't matter if i'm new, if i don't you should be able to refute it even if i'm old |
| 22:43.42 | taleden | right? |
| 22:43.49 | Fisker | yeah looks a bit like it Shefki |
| 22:43.55 | sylvanaar | becuase I dont recall talking to you - and there is a point - i need to know that you understand why things are they are currently |
| 22:43.58 | Fisker | That's not going to work though i think |
| 22:44.04 | Shefki | I'll probably watch it anyway. |
| 22:44.09 | Shefki | But I don't really have high hopes for it. |
| 22:44.10 | Shadowed | or hell |
| 22:44.24 | sylvanaar | s/they/the way that they are/ |
| 22:44.33 | taleden | as i see it, using automagic packager/svn replacements is just convenience |
| 22:44.40 | Shefki | Frankly SciFi has really turned me off lately. |
| 22:44.40 | taleden | saves you having to remember to increment your version number when you commit or tag |
| 22:44.53 | taleden | but it costs you this risk of it getting fubar'd, which for a library is a bigger deal than just an addon |
| 22:44.53 | Shadowed | it's not that hard to remember |
| 22:45.28 | Torhal | Shefki: SyFy. Remember, they turned their name into a texter's dream. |
| 22:45.40 | Shefki | Torhal: I refuse to type that nonsense. |
| 22:45.43 | taleden | i agree shadowed and i don't use them, but that seems to be why some people do |
| 22:45.49 | sylvanaar | thats fine - but that still wont solve needing to inflate the number in the devlelopment version |
| 22:45.51 | Fisker | i lol'd Torhal |
| 22:46.00 | Shadowed | taleden's solution is fine |
| 22:46.03 | Torhal | Shefki: I wish I could refuse to see that shit whenever I watch Eureka or Warehouse 13 |
| 22:46.11 | taleden | "inflate" only requires "highest that might exist in some other addon + 1" |
| 22:46.12 | taleden | right? |
| 22:46.21 | Shefki | Torhal: Ohh it's easy I don't watch any of their new shows. |
| 22:46.22 | sylvanaar | right |
| 22:46.23 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: why do you need to inflate the version number in the development version? NOBODY ELSE DOES |
| 22:46.23 | taleden | you just need to make sure you standalone copy overrides whatever's embedded elsewhere |
| 22:46.30 | taleden | if you had been assigning manual version numbers in the first place |
| 22:46.46 | taleden | then you would know what the highest number could possibly be anywhere |
| 22:46.46 | Shefki | SG:U will probably get me to watch it like I said above. |
| 22:46.47 | taleden | and set your own copy one higher, as it should be, since it will have to go up when you commit anyway |
| 22:46.55 | Shefki | But that's only becuase I'm a fan of the SG franchise. If I had another option of where to watch it I would. |
| 22:47.56 | sylvanaar | well, someone else could make a change too, and forget |
| 22:48.07 | sylvanaar | just like people forget to change thier version tags in the toc |
| 22:48.17 | taleden | yes, that's a problem |
| 22:48.25 | Shadowed | then yell at them |
| 22:48.27 | taleden | my point is the risks of automagic version numbers are a bigger problem |
| 22:48.34 | sylvanaar | we can talk all day about 'ideal' cases |
| 22:48.34 | Torhal | But it doesn't have the possibility of fubaring shit down the line |
| 22:48.38 | taleden | so you're better off getting everyone to learn how to assign proper version numbers without it |
| 22:48.44 | Arrowmaster | you mean like how every fucking swatter error report says a person is using version "2.0" of cartographer? |
| 22:49.04 | sylvanaar | taleden i do agreee - but history has shown they dont |
| 22:49.18 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster exactly |
| 22:49.36 | taleden | if someone forgets to increment a version, the risk is their change doesn't get picked up because some other addon loads the old copy first with thet same version number |
| 22:49.42 | Arrowmaster | even though Cartographer.revision has the proper version number in it |
| 22:49.42 | taleden | sad day, you have to tag again, no harm done, right? |
| 22:49.47 | sylvanaar | do you know how much shit i got for asking that version number get added to the toc |
| 22:50.17 | sylvanaar | tekkub said, what if the author doesnt want to update the version number, for example |
| 22:50.19 | Arrowmaster | the X-Curse-Version? |
| 22:50.34 | sylvanaar | he objected to the x-curse-version |
| 22:50.56 | Arrowmaster | well i would have objected if you wanted to force Version to be updated |
| 22:51.05 | sylvanaar | i didnt |
| 22:51.35 | sylvanaar | i could understand that |
| 22:52.58 | sylvanaar | this was for the automated error reporting that i was looking into last year - getting the correct version number was diffcult/impossible without the packager doing it |
| 22:53.02 | sylvanaar | btw |
| 22:53.05 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2428 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 22:53.08 | Repo | Added/removed missing/incorrect Enchanting trainer data, tickets 780,770,754,745,727,713,703,701,693 |
| 22:53.12 | Repo | Added a missing trainer to the trainer database. |
| 22:53.31 | sylvanaar | im finally getting back around to working on it again - if anyone is interested in participating |
| 22:53.38 | Arrowmaster | sure |
| 22:53.47 | Arrowmaster | but i still think its going to be a fucking pain in the ass |
| 22:53.54 | Arrowmaster | and not work correctly |
| 22:54.54 | sylvanaar | well - heres my idea - we upload the buggraber and swatter errors and store them en-masse, as well as let the tester indicate certain ones hed like to report |
| 22:54.58 | Arrowmaster | it would need a good server side backend imho along with a community page |
| 22:55.05 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster |
| 22:55.35 | sylvanaar | http://sylvanaar.dontexist.com/solace/en/ |
| 22:55.43 | asmodai | fighting rogues in PvP always sucks |
| 22:55.49 | sylvanaar | just forget what it was originally used for |
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| 22:56.21 | Arrowmaster | supporting both buggrabber and swatter is a bad idea imho |
| 22:56.31 | asmodai | jesus |
| 22:56.49 | asmodai | either cheap shot or kidney shot disable you long enough to just die |
| 22:57.07 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster i already have some code that does it |
| 22:57.29 | sylvanaar | its just still in bits |
| 22:57.31 | sylvanaar | http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=244926&postcount=40 |
| 22:57.33 | Torhal | Swatter makes my balls itch. |
| 22:57.47 | sylvanaar | yeah, but did you know they show about the same information |
| 22:57.50 | Shefki | I really don't understand the hate for Swatter. |
| 22:58.14 | Arrowmaster | its a bad idea imho, should make custom one, like a modified version of buggrabber so all errors are in the same format |
| 22:58.38 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster that works too |
| 22:58.56 | Arrowmaster | have a community page where inteligent people can help point error messages to the right project since the masses cant fucking read a debugstack |
| 22:59.07 | sylvanaar | thats the idea |
| 22:59.12 | Torhal | Shefki: Every time I've gotten bug reports with Swatter, it leads me nowhere. Same bug report using Buggrabber, I suddenly know exactly how to fix the problem. Same bug. |
| 22:59.36 | sylvanaar | heres a swatter error |
| 22:59.37 | sylvanaar | http://sylvanaar.dontexist.com/solace/en/topic/4-raidtracker-raidtracker-lua:396:-table-index-is-nil |
| 22:59.41 | Shefki | I don't see why it's the same stack trace. |
| 22:59.54 | Torhal | It didn't look like the same stack trace |
| 22:59.55 | sylvanaar | heres buggrabber |
| 22:59.58 | Arrowmaster | and have the server try to compare debugstacks, mostly by comparing the amount of text that is the same and allowing for numbers to be different to help match duplicate debugstacks together |
| 22:59.59 | sylvanaar | http://sylvanaar.dontexist.com/solace/en/topic/3-libqtipclick-1-1:9-cannot-find-a-library-instance-of-libqtip-1-0 |
| 23:00.03 | Torhal | In fact, the Swatter one lead to default UI |
| 23:00.28 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster top line error text was my idea of the "key" |
| 23:00.50 | Shefki | I've never seen a swatter error like that. |
| 23:00.57 | Shefki | And I use it so *shrug* |
| 23:01.06 | Arrowmaster | the top line can be the same but be caused by something completely different |
| 23:01.18 | Arrowmaster | thats the entire reason we use debugstacks and not just the top line |
| 23:01.27 | sylvanaar | yeah, but we need a key |
| 23:01.39 | Arrowmaster | for what? |
| 23:01.46 | Arrowmaster | listing them? |
| 23:01.50 | sylvanaar | no no |
| 23:01.52 | Torhal | sylvanaar: I hope that's an old trace. LQTC is deprecated. |
| 23:01.53 | Arrowmaster | or trying to match dupes? |
| 23:02.00 | sylvanaar | Torhal i nkow |
| 23:02.19 | sylvanaar | its just something i found in a saved var |
| 23:03.13 | sylvanaar | im just trying to work out how to ID errors the best |
| 23:03.26 | Arrowmaster | ID for what purpose? |
| 23:03.36 | sylvanaar | to filter out dupes |
| 23:03.52 | Arrowmaster | you have to do a comparison on the entire text |
| 23:04.20 | sylvanaar | embedded libraries make that difficult |
| 23:04.37 | Arrowmaster | this is probably something more towards Shirik expertise |
| 23:04.38 | Shefki | I don't think you'll ever be able to match them 100% of the time. |
| 23:04.44 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 23:04.51 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:04.57 | Shirik | what did I do |
| 23:05.02 | sylvanaar | im just trying to get the most obvious ones |
| 23:05.08 | Shefki | Really not sure why you're trying. |
| 23:05.12 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: not really, look at buggrabber debugstacks |
| 23:05.40 | sylvanaar | they will change with different versions of the libraries |
| 23:05.40 | Shirik | (19:04:27) (Arrowmaster) this is probably something more towards Shirik expertise |
| 23:05.44 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: trying to determine if a debugstack is a dupe of another |
| 23:05.45 | Shirik | Saved quote |
| 23:06.06 | sylvanaar | basically |
| 23:06.14 | Shirik | actually, I've done that before |
| 23:06.14 | sylvanaar | if you look at ths site |
| 23:06.22 | Shirik | I'm not sure I have the code though :/ |
| 23:06.27 | sylvanaar | what should go in the title of each post |
| 23:06.34 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: start with only using buggrabber debug stacks |
| 23:06.46 | Arrowmaster | you know exactly where the library version is in the debug stack |
| 23:07.09 | Arrowmaster | so you know what parts you can allow for fuzzy matching and what parts must be absolutely a match |
| 23:08.01 | sylvanaar | that sounds good to me |
| 23:08.06 | Arrowmaster | this is why i said its more Shirik expertise since its statistical analysis of text |
| 23:08.24 | sylvanaar | first though, what should be in the topic line of the error report |
| 23:08.31 | Arrowmaster | for the most part numbers will be a lot weaker match than letters |
| 23:08.44 | Shirik | hm, sounds something more suited for an AI routine actually |
| 23:08.57 | Shirik | a neural net should be able to handle it quite well I think |
| 23:09.03 | sylvanaar | actually thats why this triage site is there |
| 23:09.05 | Arrowmaster | the first line of the debug stack is fine for a topic line |
| 23:09.23 | sylvanaar | because you need real eyes sometimes |
| 23:09.25 | taleden | do you think you can classify them reliably enough just from automated analysis? maybe they should just go into an anonymous pool until someone indicates what kind of bug they think it is, and to which lib/addon it applies |
| 23:09.41 | sylvanaar | read this first: https://www.dyndns.com/account/services/hosts/sylvanaar.dontexi |
| 23:09.42 | Arrowmaster | taleden: exactly |
| 23:09.44 | Arrowmaster | they should |
| 23:09.44 | sylvanaar | meh |
| 23:10.01 | sylvanaar | http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=244926&postcount=40 |
| 23:10.03 | sylvanaar | this |
| 23:10.08 | Arrowmaster | but once a debug stack has been classified you can use that information to try to make suggestions for others like it |
| 23:10.17 | Shirik | I agree with Arrowmaster here |
| 23:10.23 | Shirik | with sufficient training, a simple AI routine could handle this |
| 23:10.30 | sylvanaar | yes i agree as well |
| 23:10.32 | Shirik | it just would take a few to get it off the ground |
| 23:10.34 | Arrowmaster | never do it fully automatic and classify it on its own but allow it to make suggestions |
| 23:11.12 | Arrowmaster | you could hard code patterns for some common things though |
| 23:11.32 | Arrowmaster | like the errors about missing LibBabble-*-3.0 translations |
| 23:11.45 | sylvanaar | basically each error can have tags assinged to it |
| 23:11.54 | sylvanaar | automatically or manually |
| 23:12.01 | Arrowmaster | the addon causing those are almost always found on the last line of the debug stack |
| 23:12.22 | asmodai | now knows for sure |
| 23:12.28 | asmodai | Blizzard can't balance pvp worth shit |
| 23:13.42 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: right but for the best chances of being able to do any automatic tagging all debug stacks will need to be in the same format, perferably with as much information as possible, which is why i like the buggrabber format as a base |
| 23:14.10 | Arrowmaster | i wanted to steal your embedded library detection from ACP and put it into buggrabber for a long time |
| 23:15.12 | sylvanaar | well, 1 idea would be to make an in-game addon to do some of the pre-processing |
| 23:15.24 | Arrowmaster | which is what buggrabber does |
| 23:15.48 | Shefki | asmodai: Why would you expect it to be balanced in a gear based game? |
| 23:15.59 | sylvanaar | but, bugrabber doesnt take running addon snapshots and some other things |
| 23:16.18 | sylvanaar | that ideally, you'd like to have |
| 23:16.22 | Arrowmaster | well i hate the way swatter does it |
| 23:16.30 | sylvanaar | i do too because its spammy |
| 23:16.50 | Arrowmaster | but i had an idea of making a tree of the addon loading order along with every library that loaded from that addon, using your code in ACP |
| 23:17.22 | sylvanaar | but, we could have buggrabber save that info silently so that we could extract it - but users wouldnt be posting spam |
| 23:17.32 | sylvanaar | thats a good idea too |
| 23:17.38 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 23:17.54 | Arrowmaster | it would never be appended to the debug stack like swatter does it |
| 23:18.00 | asmodai | Shefki: One can still hope eh? :) |
| 23:18.01 | Arrowmaster | i wanted to just put it in a seperate window |
| 23:18.16 | asmodai | Shefki: But now that I am doing lvl 80 bgs, it just shows how utterly unbalanced the shit is |
| 23:18.52 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: also blizzard added some debuglocals stuff |
| 23:19.13 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: I thought that stuff never worked right. |
| 23:19.35 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: blizzard has the entire debug offsets fucked to hell in their code |
| 23:20.01 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: and probably not a consistent offset mistake? |
| 23:20.10 | Arrowmaster | which is why EVERY fucking error starts saying its from BasicControls.xml |
| 23:20.32 | Arrowmaster | they use debugstack(2) instead of debugstack(3) i think |
| 23:20.54 | Shadowed | the blizzard error reporter is fucked in general |
| 23:21.14 | Arrowmaster | buggrabber uses debugstack(3) or debugstack(4) depending on conditions |
| 23:21.22 | sylvanaar | i really need to build an IDS file for lua.lib |
| 23:21.55 | taleden | is there a way to do string.gsub() treating everything as plain strings? I have strings that contain "[" and it wants to treat it as a pattern, but it's not, so it breaks |
| 23:22.31 | sylvanaar | "%[" |
| 23:22.59 | kd3 | grrs at lua's "regex"ish thing not using backslashes |
| 23:23.01 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Yeah but I've never seen the locals actually report anything useful. |
| 23:23.08 | taleden | kd3: yeah I tried that first too :) |
| 23:23.12 | sylvanaar | theres an example of on the lua users wiki, and in stdlib |
| 23:23.16 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: their stack level is wrong too which is probably why |
| 23:23.27 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Ahh |
| 23:24.08 | Arrowmaster | i looked at adding it to buggrabber but i think the code needs some refactoring to properly add it |
| 23:24.25 | Xtek | zomg VNC is such crap |
| 23:24.25 | Arrowmaster | since it uses variable stack levels |
| 23:26.19 | taleden | hm.. LoadAddOn() returns nil,nil and doesn't load the addon |
| 23:26.28 | taleden | but if I do /script LoadAddOn() ingame it works fine |
| 23:26.33 | taleden | does it not work during initial load? |
| 23:27.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah blizz broke it |
| 23:27.27 | taleden | I thought it was fixed in 3.2 |
| 23:27.37 | Arrowmaster | no they broke it in 3.2 |
| 23:27.47 | taleden | wasn't it broken before? or was that a different kind of broken? |
| 23:28.01 | Arrowmaster | no it worked before |
| 23:29.01 | Zeksie | works any time after PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 23:29.15 | taleden | hm |
| 23:29.32 | Zeksie | 3.1 i think was a different kind of broken. where LOD in toc was fubar'd |
| 23:29.41 | taleden | maybe that's what I'm thinking of |
| 23:29.43 | Arrowmaster | no that was 3.0 |
| 23:29.50 | Arrowmaster | fixed in 3.0.8 i think |
| 23:29.51 | Zeksie | 3.0 was it... how time flies |
| 23:30.20 | taleden | well anyway, I need A to do some stuff, load B if it's available, then do some other stuff |
| 23:30.46 | taleden | ##LoadWith doesn't seem to help because then A can't do anything after B finishes, unless B signals it, which won't happen if B isn't enabled at all |
| 23:31.19 | Zeksie | you can get the addon to do it. just not too early. |
| 23:31.46 | taleden | hm |
| 23:31.59 | sylvanaar | ok so whats a good minimal system to get working so that we can start refining it |
| 23:33.38 | sylvanaar | 1) way to get errors in game, 2) way to get those outside of game, 3) place to send them, 4) way to get them there 5) tbd... |
| 23:34.29 | sylvanaar | i think among us we have all those parts |
| 23:34.33 | Repo | 10classtimer-eclipse: 03rindy * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): Initial import |
| 23:35.15 | Arrowmaster | @project classtimer-eclipse |
| 23:35.16 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/classtimer-eclipse/. ClassTimer Eclipse. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. rindy (Manager/Author). Updated: 11 minutes ago |
| 23:35.48 | Pneumatus | @describe classtimer-eclipse |
| 23:35.49 | Repo | Pneumatus: http://www.wowace.com/addons/classtimer-eclipse/. ClassTimer Eclipse. Displays the internal cooldown of Eclipse as a ClassTimer bar |
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| 23:44.47 | FtH|Daemona | hrhr ich weiss warum die affen so slacken |
| 23:44.56 | FtH|Daemona | die machen grad beta test für nen next gen mmo |
| 23:44.58 | FtH|Daemona | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abBzmlTDu2Y |
| 23:45.00 | FtH|Daemona | da, trailer |
| 23:45.05 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: muh? :> |
| 23:45.10 | FtH|Daemona | agh |
| 23:45.11 | FtH|Daemona | FC |
| 23:45.13 | FtH|Daemona | :/ |
| 23:45.14 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 23:45.24 | Gnarfoz | aber nice ;) |
| 23:46.00 | FtH|Daemona | definitly too late :( |
| 23:46.44 | Gnarfoz | ahaha sicher für kinder |
| 23:47.18 | Gnarfoz | also, rofl @ yt comments: "Es würde mich nicht wundern wenn das Spiel zu einem Asia Grinder wird :D" |
| 23:48.27 | Dessa | haha |
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