IRC log for #wowace on 20090828

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00:01.00vhaarrPneumatus: separators, for what?
00:01.23Pneumatusvhaarr: like, between all the instances and then extras etc there used to be separators
00:01.32vhaarrthey are gone from the menu
00:01.39Pneumatusi know
00:01.54vhaarrno, I mean the instances are gon
00:01.55vhaarrgone
00:02.08Pneumatussec, let me log back in and double check what i mean
00:02.19vhaarryou probably use the curse client to update, in which case you're fucked
00:02.30Pneumatusof course I did :<
00:02.34vhaarrsince our LoD stub still adds the zones to the menu
00:02.40vhaarrif you run svn, they're gone
00:03.51Pneumatusyeh, i have a pile of instances then bars/colors/messages etc
00:04.29Pneumatuswell, a pile of zones
00:04.29vhaarrI .. know
00:05.54Pneumatusshould i not be using packaged alpha zips then? :<
00:07.09vhaarrI don't see the problem here
00:07.44vhaarrwtf are we discussing anyway
00:07.58Stanzillait works and it's work in progress..no problem :P
00:08.01vhaarr<Pneumatus> vhaarr: will the separators return in the bigwigs dewdrop menu thing at some point?
00:08.03Pneumatuswe are discussing why isnt there a gap between zuldrak and colors :)
00:08.04vhaarr<vhaarr> you probably use the curse client to update, in which case you're fucked
00:08.12vhaarrbecause it's a fucking ALPHA, that's why
00:08.32Pneumatusi asked if they would be returning :<
00:08.44vhaarr<Gnarfoz> Pneumatus: more likely that the dewdrop will go away, I'd say?
00:10.41Pneumatusright, ok
00:12.24Pneumatusso the whole lot is going to Interface->Addons then?
00:12.46vhaarryeah that'd be convenient, wouldn't it
00:13.06vhaarra huge fucking window blocking the view when you want to configure bars, messages and proximity, etc
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00:15.53Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5906 Extras/Flash.lua: Nuke all options from FnS.
00:16.55Stanzilla:(
00:19.54Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5907 Extras/CustomBar.lua: Nuke options from custombar.
00:23.03Stanzillavhaarr: I guess those options will be coming back on the root options screen?
00:23.16vhaarryes in some form or another
00:23.23Stanzillathought so :)
00:23.43vhaarrmost likely custombar will stay a slashcommand-only module
00:23.54vhaarrbut FnS will get an option that just toggles the whole module on the backend
00:23.58vhaarrI'm thinking
00:24.36Stanzillahrm, I would like to toggle flash and shake separately
00:24.45vhaarryou're out of luck then
00:24.48Stanzilla:(
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01:07.21pompy1oh boy, Ackis is playing wow again!
01:07.28Ackis:P
01:09.41Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r212 / (2 files in 2 directories): Confessor's Prayer Book
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01:12.38Repo10auracle: 03taleden * r73 / (2 files in 1 directory):
01:12.41Repo- the "Auracle Enabled" toggle is now remembered after logging out
01:13.21Shirikdestroys Ackis
01:13.31Ackis:(
01:16.31Repo10auracle: 03taleden 041.1.0 * r74 : Tagging as 1.1.0
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01:21.22kadrahil.
01:21.27kadrahildid wow just drop anyone else
01:21.47Funkeh`negative
01:23.42pompy1yeah
01:23.48Shirikkadrahil: On comcast?
01:23.57kadrahilShirik: yeah
01:23.57Ackis!api isflying
01:23.57lua_botIsFlying: Returns whether the player is currently flying (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsFlying)
01:24.00pompy1so am i
01:24.01ShirikSupposedly "their shit just died"
01:24.17kadrahilShirik: haha, yeah i just texted a guildie and he got dropped too
01:24.23kadrahili can't access any of blizzard's sites
01:28.17Odlawit's comcastic.. dropped here too
01:28.42kadrahilyeah a bunch of people :(
01:31.24ShirikSomething is fucked: http://internetpulse.com/
01:32.35Groktarya, same here
01:32.43Groktarwe were about to do algalon
01:32.52Groktarbut switch to mimiron at the last second
01:32.58Groktarwe almost got screwed
01:33.23Odlawwe were doin 0 light yogg :/
01:33.32Odlawat least we didn't try alg either heh
01:33.38Odlawdodged a bullet
01:33.43Groktarhehe
01:33.58Groktarbet there's a lot of angst going on
01:35.27taledenis sync->curse broken again or does it just take awhile?
01:36.23Odlawb.net issue atm
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01:40.44Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r365 pullouts/Prat-3.0_Debug/Prat-3.0_Debug.toc: add a saved variable for the debug pullout
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01:44.06DefTone7what's the best private server to play wow? i only BC at the moment. anyone?
01:44.18DefTone7I only have BC....can't type today
01:46.13Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.7Beta-8-gf00a094 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
01:46.14Repof00a094: Try a hack for the valley of heroes dailies
01:46.18Repod23cba7: Rename m_alliancebline to m_allianceblind.
01:46.20Repo6ae4fcb: Add that chumming daily.
01:47.56StanzillaDefTone7: private servers are bad, mkay?
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01:49.03*** kick/#wowace [DefTone7!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn)
01:50.58Groktargee, i can't imagine why he got banned
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01:55.01TorhalCairenn: Bah. You didn't allow a bit of torture.
01:55.29Cairennblame Ackis
01:55.49Ackis:D
01:55.50ShefkiWhat's Ackis got to do with it?
01:56.00AckisI mind controlled Cairenn
01:56.04Cairenn^^
01:56.20ShefkiI'm pretty sure she's immune.
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01:59.14aestilauthentication server is down?
01:59.24Groktarpretty much all of wow is down
01:59.28AckisI'm logged in and playing
01:59.34Ackismy gf can't connect
01:59.34aestildon't log out.
01:59.41Groktari can't ping anything worldofwarcraft
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01:59.47aestilme neither.
02:00.01Ackismy gf on the same IP as me can't connect to the website, login, etc... yet I can connect and I'm playing
02:00.07TorhalCairenn: I normally blam Ackis for quite a bit.
02:00.12TorhalBut that, I cna't sem to.
02:00.16AckisTorhal: optimize the dataminer
02:00.20Torhals/cna't/can't/
02:00.30Torhalfails at spelling.
02:00.36TorhalAckis: Are you serious? :)
02:00.42Ackisyes
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02:01.04TorhalMemory-wise, CPU-wise, or a blend? :)
02:01.20ShefkiAckis: If you're already on you're fine.
02:01.27ShefkiIf you log out, you can't get back in.
02:01.34AckisShefki: why can I connect to the web site then?
02:01.49ShefkiYou sure it's not just cache?
02:02.09Ackisshouldn't be, cache is only like a meg
02:02.14aestili can log into the webstie
02:02.16aestilforums are down though
02:03.21Groktarforums up for me now
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02:05.39aestiltried to flush my dns, but it didn't change anything, so i'm pretty sure blizzards entire serverfarm is dead.
02:06.06ShefkiIt's probably just the authentication servers.
02:06.19ShefkiI'm stillin in the game doing stuff.
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02:08.09Groktarwe just called raid
02:08.14Groktarnot like we have much to do this week
02:08.25Groktaralready did 5 10 mans and 2 25 man coliseums
02:08.32Groktarjust razor, algalon, general, yogg
02:09.00ShefkiGroktar: Yeah we're just left with razer, ignis and yogg.
02:09.04aestilwe are getting close to having nothing to do too.  although its because we can't kill algalon
02:09.09AckisGroktar: you do hard modes? :P
02:09.09ShefkiBut lol at this: http://files.shefki.org/20090827.png
02:09.16ShefkiThey're obviously having some sort of problem.
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02:09.34aestilAckis: if algalon is left for them, then i'm guessing they have done the hard modes.
02:09.56Ackisaestil: true good point :P
02:09.59aestilwe have our 1 hour of algalon, yogg +1 tries, and finishing coleseum
02:10.14Ackisyogg +1 == 1 keeper up?
02:10.19aestilyes.
02:10.21aestilonly 1
02:10.24Ackiskk
02:10.29aestilwe have 2 lights in the darkness
02:10.37aestilbut need one light in the darkness for the meta
02:10.41aestilonly achieve left.
02:10.41Ackisaye
02:10.47aestilfor that meta anyways.
02:10.52AckisI remember that at least
02:10.56aestilof course you want to be a 14/14 guild
02:10.59Ackis0 up == mount?
02:11.09aestilso you're not 'done' until you kill algalon
02:11.14Groktar4 up == mount
02:11.19aestilno, 1 up = mount meta
02:11.26aestilmount?
02:11.34Ackisthe head
02:11.34Groktarmimiron head from 0 keepers
02:11.39Shefkimount is 0 up
02:11.42Ackisah
02:11.45Shefkior I should say zero down.
02:11.49Groktarand i think you mean 4 up shefki
02:11.50AckisI need to find a guild that'll do taht for me :P
02:11.50Groktaryeah
02:11.51Groktarhehe
02:11.54Funkeh`AHAHAHA
02:11.59aestilah.
02:11.59Funkeh`gotta lvoe symantec
02:12.01Funkeh`fucking PRO
02:12.09Funkeh`http://www.symantec.com/norton/theme.jsp?themeid=freeware
02:12.14Funkeh`pure propaganda
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02:12.41Funkeh`They are just sore because evry single one of those retailers raped their ass in detection
02:12.47ShefkiWe got Algalon 25 finally last night.  Probably would have had it last week but one of our healers had ISP issues in the middle of it.
02:12.49Funkeh`with a free product
02:12.56aestilhow many hours did you spend?
02:13.05ShefkiThis was week 5 for us.
02:13.15Ackisok so Shefki, aestil, Groktar: any of you horde and recruiting? :P
02:13.15aestilwe have about 20 + people in guild who have Algalon down in 10 man
02:13.19aestilso we are hoping that helps us.
02:13.21ShefkiAckis: Alliance.
02:13.26Ackiseww
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02:13.42Shefkiaestil: We were easily farming 10 man that whole time and probably a good several weeks before that.
02:13.46Shefkiaestil: Didn't seem to matter.
02:13.51aestilAckis: alliance, looking for good healing and good ranged dps atm
02:14.00ShefkiIf it wasn't critical people going offline it was someone running into a hole they shouldn't.
02:14.00Ackisis horde :(
02:14.05Stanzilla^fails
02:14.10ShefkiOr melee standing in Cosmic Smashes...
02:14.12rubikFunkeh`: that IS funny... good find
02:14.13ShefkiOr something.
02:14.15aestilAckis: you will be able to faction change very sortly.
02:14.20Funkeh`Yeah
02:14.27ShefkiIt's really not a huge change but enough people didn't have enough experience that it took time.
02:14.28Funkeh`I have a feeling that's going to bite them in the ass
02:14.30Funkeh`big time
02:14.41Ackisaestil: yah but I wanted to get the achievement mount before tehy nerf that =/ haven't played much at all during wrath so I have to play catchup
02:14.47Funkeh`I detect a shares drop xD
02:15.00aestilwhat achievment mount?  the Ulduar one?
02:15.07aestilprobably too late to get that.
02:15.11ShefkiProbably means the 25 man drake.
02:15.19Shefkiaestil: They haven't even announced removing it.
02:15.25aestilyes
02:15.30aestilbut who's gonna go back and do that content?
02:15.35ShefkiSo he's still got at least a month.
02:15.35aestilwe don't
02:15.40ShefkiPeople that want maces.
02:15.45aestiloh.
02:15.47Ackisaestil: you don't do hard modes every week?
02:15.48StanzillaAckis: they already nerfed it big time :P
02:15.50aestili think we'll craft a second one.
02:15.51aestilAckis: no.
02:16.00Shefkiaestil: I'm 8 fragments away.
02:16.02aestilwell yes, we do
02:16.05aestiljust a different one
02:16.10aestilyou work on freya +3
02:16.15aestiluntil you kill it
02:16.17aestilthats pretty easy now
02:16.20ShefkiWe kill it every week, it's a joke now.
02:16.26rubikfirefighter-10 needs more nerfing
02:16.27ShefkiActually it's not hard doing any of the hard modes now.
02:16.31aestilwe do thorim/hodir/xt type hard modes
02:16.32ShefkiCrazy Cat Lady is annoying.
02:16.35AckisStanzilla: you horde? :P
02:16.40aestilbut i don't see doing firefighter again
02:16.42ShefkiAs is the Razorscale one.
02:16.47ShefkiBut everything else is a joke now.
02:16.50StanzillaAckis: still alliance, you should remember that
02:17.00Funkeh`Experts agree that today’s biggest online threats come in forms that free antivirus software (like the free software offered by AVG®, avast!® and Avira®) doesn’t stop.
02:17.00Shefkiaestil: Why not, we do it every week, it's not that big of a deal.
02:17.01AckisStanzilla: I'm hoping you've rerolled :P
02:17.03Funkeh`man that's a blatant lie
02:17.15aestilour raiding is sorta a wierd setup
02:17.25aestilwe only have 3 nights a week for progression raid
02:17.42ShefkiWell TOC takes 45 minutes.
02:17.45aestilso an 'offnight' crew of alts and recruits and friends/family run through the front of the instance and clear whatever we don't nee
02:17.45rubikhaha.. someone should email symantec and ask them for sources (these "experts") for that BS
02:17.55ShefkiWe've been one shotting the new stuff even.
02:17.56aestilthen we go in and work on the hard mode
02:18.03aestilthe new stuff, yeah, very easy
02:18.10aestilbut we just killed mimiron last night
02:18.30aestiland then we'll have yogg+1 until we get that.
02:18.30ShefkiWe actually ended up doing TOC 25 man twice this week becuase Blizzard lost our BG's raid ids.
02:18.36aestilnice.
02:18.42ShefkiThat and like the first half of Ulduar.
02:18.51aestilbtw, apparently its people who have a battle.net account that can't log in.
02:19.44rubikugh.. battle.net.. i can't believe they'll force me to switch to that shit soon
02:19.50aestil?
02:19.57aestilbecause its like acid burning your face?
02:20.05aestilwhy the hell would you care?
02:20.05rubikhaving to log in with an email address = fail.
02:20.06Shefkirubik: Non battle.net breaks too sometimes.
02:20.15rubik(to the game)
02:20.20aestilwhy?
02:20.23rubikand yes, i know there's a checkbox to remember login
02:20.30Shefkirubik: I'm not fond of that but you know after thinking about it.  I think it's good in some respects.
02:20.35aestilyou're saying that its the amount of time you have to type?
02:20.45ShefkiThe old system the account names were stored in the WTF folder.
02:20.45aestilyou're complaining about the extra 10 characters or so  you have to type?
02:20.55ShefkiSo even if you turned it off saving it, it was still on disk.
02:21.20ShefkiAt least now you can use an email address that you don't use for anything else and it's not on your disk anywhere.
02:21.39rubiki guess.. so what does the folder look like?
02:21.50rubik(with battle.net login)
02:21.53Shefkirubik: It still has your old account name.
02:22.01rubikahh
02:22.02Shefkirubik: For new accounts I think it's a random generated name.
02:22.14digmouserandom?
02:22.17ShefkiLike numbers and letters.
02:22.18rubiki should try renaming it and see what it creates
02:22.29rubik(well, after i switch to battle.net account that is)
02:22.31digmousemaybe the BN system in US are bit different?
02:22.41Shefkirubik: It'd create another one with my old account name.
02:23.04rubikoh.. because of the way the association/upgrade was made i guess
02:23.09Shefkirubik: Right.
02:23.12digmousemy WTF folder dont change anything since CN uses BN
02:23.20Shefkidigmouse: You have a new WoW account attached to a battle.net account?
02:23.30Shefkidigmouse: Right it wouldn't change.
02:23.36digmouseShefki: yes
02:23.40ShefkiIf you had an existing wow account that was merged into battle.net
02:23.49ShefkiWhat's it use for the account name?
02:23.58digmouseoh you mean that changes for a NEW account?
02:24.05ShefkiWTF/Account/____/...
02:24.07digmousethen I havent do that yet
02:24.11Shefki____ used to be your user account.
02:24.22ShefkiIf you converted a wow account into a battle.net it still is.
02:24.54ShefkiBut I'm not 100% sure what they're using for new wow accounts attached to battle.net, I assume if you make a new wow account you're just battle.net automatically.
02:25.17RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/basicwarrior/. BasicWarrior. funkydude (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by funkydude.
02:25.19ShefkiI was under the impression from stuff I'd seen that they were just random letter and number combos there for the various accounts.
02:25.22RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wtf/. Who's tanking - frames. smb (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by funkydude.
02:25.27digmouseI'd say the WoW client's BN login support sucks
02:25.28ShefkiLike some sort of account id that means nothing to us but something to them.
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02:25.50Shefkidigmouse: Why's that?
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02:26.52RepoAddFriend:
02:26.55RepoReverted back to ShowMenu hook
02:26.58Repo*Fixes Set Focus issue
02:27.01Repo*Breaks Ordering
02:27.15digmouselike I login my first account, and wanna multiboxing my second and third account I have to login the BN email twice, not be able to just go back to account list, etc
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02:28.09digmouseand if I setup the accountName and accountList I'll never be able to use another BN account, if do that, that list wiped
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02:32.21TorhalShefki: At the moment, it uses your original account name...no idea about making a new one.
02:32.22Repo10basicwarrior (experimental): 03funkydude * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): Initial commit of what I have so far.
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02:52.40Gnarfoz@describe basicwarrior
02:52.41RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/basicwarrior/. BasicWarrior. AWESOME
02:53.23Gnarfozawsum. :D
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03:12.05Funkeh`Gnarfoz, yep
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03:16.22StanzillaFunkeh`: do you play arms or fury?
03:16.39Funkeh`fury
03:18.34Funkeh`I got tired of PowerAura's constant 30.xx cpu usage
03:18.50Funkeh`that just flashes a box the slam procs, and at the same time, display threat on target and rage
03:19.04Funkeh`I'll add overpower for arms and sword and board for prot
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03:21.22Stanzillaoverpower and execute for arms :)
03:22.11Funkeh`I wont add execute
03:22.19Funkeh`but ill change the color of the box when execute enables
03:22.33Funkeh`I'm trying to use little text
03:22.55Funkeh`I wanted to use red when you're low health but not sure that would be useful
03:23.05Funkeh`so maybe ill use red for execute instead
03:23.29StanzillaI'm not talking about the normal 20% execute but the sudden death proc
03:23.37Funkeh`ooh
03:23.57Funkeh`yeah I guess I could make it flash for that
03:24.25Funkeh`it looks ugly atm, need to think of something to do to it
03:24.26Stanzillaso it just shows a box with a color or the ability icon, too?
03:24.28Stanzillaand text?
03:25.01Funkeh`ability icon shows in the middle when the proc happens, a border then flashes on off a certain color
03:25.27Funkeh`top of the box = threat, bottom = rage
03:25.43Funkeh`and the box itself will change color according to something
03:25.53Funkeh`probably whats least ugly
03:28.07Funkeh`I think I'll end up using some blizz textures to make it look less shit
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03:31.43Stanzillawhy do you want rage in there?
03:33.26StanzillaFunkeh`: http://i31.tinypic.com/2ppn58o.jpg something like that?
03:33.35quiescensbecause he's very angry~
03:34.04Funkeh`what's that?
03:34.53Funkeh`I guess the top is target health
03:35.11Funkeh`middle is god knows what
03:36.02quiescensI'm guessing duration
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03:38.40Funkeh`hmm
03:39.45StanzillaFunkeh`: top is actually threat
03:39.50Stanzillamiddle duration of the procc
03:39.51Stanzillaname
03:39.53Stanzillarage
03:40.03Funkeh`what addon is that?
03:40.10StanzillaPhotoshop + Boredom
03:40.14Funkeh`oh
03:40.16Funkeh`lol
03:40.23Funkeh`I thought someone had done my job for me already
03:40.37Stanzillawell there is an addon for icon+duration
03:40.45StanzillaI even use it, it's "Nao"
03:40.48Stanzillaon curseforge
03:41.58Funkeh`your presentation loks beter than my ugly box
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03:44.35Funkeh`hmm
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04:06.26Repo10basicwarrior (experimental): 03funkydude * r3 BasicWarrior.lua:
04:06.29Repoadd Taste for Blood & Sword and Board support, remove default backdrop color, now transparent, as it was ugly.
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04:21.13Repo10basicwarrior (experimental): 03funkydude * r4 BasicWarrior.lua:
04:21.16RepoAdd a timer on the buff for timeleft, increase frame height.
04:21.18Funkeh`Stanzilla, fancy trying that out on arms/ :)
04:22.48Funkeh`Im wondering if I should blinkt he icon or not
04:22.57Funkeh`or just fade it in or something
04:22.59quiescensoverload~
04:29.07Repo10basicwarrior (experimental): 03funkydude * r5 BasicWarrior.lua: Fade the icon in, don't blink it like crazy.
04:30.06GnarfozFunkeh`: are you going to implement Aero visual effects, too? :p
04:30.20Funkeh`That would be a no
04:30.23Gnarfoz:(
04:30.45Gnarfozport beryl to wow-Lua?
04:30.50Gnarfozhm... that's not even called beryl anymore
04:31.06Funkeh`I'm keeping it flashing whilst going no where near how shitty pwoerauras is coded
04:31.12Funkeh`powerauras*
04:31.21Gnarfozbrain went to sleep a while ago, what's the desktop compositing thingy for linux called these days?
04:31.29Funkeh`yey for being kind to cpu's!
04:31.44Gnarfozc...something? omg ;\
04:35.55Funkeh`Stanzilla, AWESOME isn't it
04:37.02BWMerlin@ describe basicwarrior
04:37.03RepoBWMerlin: http://www.wowace.com/addons/basicwarrior/. BasicWarrior. AWESOME
04:37.52StanzillaFunkeh`: sorry, half asleep
04:37.57Stanzillawill test now :P
04:38.05Funkeh`me too
04:38.19Funkeh`I was going to call it a night until yo shopped me your damn photoshop stuff
04:38.24Funkeh`uhm
04:38.27Funkeh`you showed me
04:38.29Funkeh`see
04:38.30Stanzilla^^
04:40.13quiescenslook what you did
04:41.14Stanzillaslow flying mount is slow
04:41.48Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r341 / (2 files in 1 directory): anti-phishing update
04:42.07StanzillaFunkeh`: proccs didnt work
04:42.17Stanzillaneither sudden death nor overpower
04:42.32Funkeh`the only thing that would proc is taste for blood
04:42.36Funkeh`should*
04:43.12quiescenswhat if he's 36/35 or something
04:43.15Stanzillawell how would a procc look like
04:43.24Funkeh`the thing would flash
04:43.27StanzillaI didnt read the code
04:43.28Stanzillaoh
04:44.00Stanzillanah
04:44.02Stanzillano flash
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04:44.08Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v3.4.9.7 * r342 : Tagging as v3.4.9.7
04:44.20Funkeh`maybe my crappy attempt at a talent scan failed
04:44.25Funkeh`did you talent switch after login
04:45.26Groktarwheee silence of the lambs one sw33t movie
04:46.13Stanzillano
04:46.33Funkeh`hmm
04:46.41Funkeh`ill add in some debug
04:46.53quiescensrespec~
04:47.09quiescenshack into stan's account and use it to test with
04:47.40Repo10basicwarrior (experimental): 03funkydude * r6 BasicWarrior.lua: add some debug
04:47.55Funkeh`Stanzilla, tell me what that prints in yor chat
04:49.55StanzillaFunkeh`: arms
04:50.22Funkeh`grr
04:50.31StanzillaFunkeh`: well it worked now
04:50.41Funkeh`-.-
04:50.41Stanzillawith flash and icon and time etc
04:50.54Funkeh`good
04:50.59quiescensits a figment f your imagination
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04:51.45Funkeh`Stanzilla, what do you think eye-candy wise
04:51.51Funkeh`might make it a tad bigger
04:52.08Stanzillabigger and the frame movable
04:52.14Funkeh`it's movabl
04:52.17Funkeh`but doesn't save
04:52.19Stanzillathen config mode
04:52.25Funkeh`hold down a modifier and drag it
04:52.53Stanzillayeah works
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04:53.03Stanzillabut I dont want to have to attack mobs to move it :P
04:53.15Stanzillaso configmode, timer less verbose and with font outline
04:53.35Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2361 / (2 files in 1 directory):
04:53.38RepoAdded some table re-use. Re-added spaces after every friggin' comma in the file. ~lart Ackis
04:53.38Funkeh`mm
04:54.02Ackisgrrr
04:54.02quiescens,
04:54.07Ackis~lart Torhal
04:54.07purlexecutes killall -TERM Torhal
04:54.10Funkeh`anyway
04:54.12Funkeh`enough for today
04:54.13Funkeh`sleep
04:54.17Stanzillanight :)
04:54.22Funkeh`oh
04:54.31Funkeh`should probably make it flash the actual duration of the buff
04:56.34Megalonhttp://db.mmo-champion.com/c/36912/chen-stormstout/ the pandaren are coming, cya ;<
04:56.55Repo10basicwarrior (experimental): 03funkydude * r7 BasicWarrior.lua: remove debug, flash the duration of the buff
04:58.01Funkeh`oh ffs
04:58.05Funkeh`is curse syncing down again
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04:58.45Funkeh`Kaelten / ckknight something going down?
05:00.54Ackiswhat's going on? syndication is slow?
05:01.03Funkeh`non-existant
05:01.32Stanzillayour
05:01.34Stanzillaproject
05:01.35Stanzillais
05:01.37Stanzillaexperimental
05:01.43Stanzillaso no sync
05:01.47Ackis^
05:01.48Stanzillaor are u talking about badboy?
05:01.55Funkeh`no shit
05:02.21Ackishey Funkeh` your project is experimental, so it won't sync
05:02.29Funkeh`...
05:02.38Stanzilla^_^
05:02.38Funkeh`It's badboy that I tagged
05:03.03Funkeh`<Repo> bad-boy: funkydude v3.4.9.7 * r342 : Tagging as v3.4.9.7
05:03.06Funkeh`15 minutes ago
05:03.16Ackis@project bad-boy
05:03.17RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bad-boy/. BadBoy: Anti Spam Automatic Reporter. Game: WoW. funkydude (Manager/Author). Updated: 19 minutes ago
05:03.18Funkeh`I don;t recal stating anything about releasig my experimental project
05:03.33Funkeh`anyway the fuck am I staying up for this shit
05:03.35Funkeh`nn
05:03.45Ackislol night
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05:04.52AckisI dunno what he's talking about
05:04.54Ackisit's synced
05:05.38Groktargently pats Ackis
05:09.00asmodaistay with patting
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05:13.00Ackisthis is retarded
05:13.07AckisI can't do any instances because they're full
05:13.08Ackisetf
05:13.09Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r202 / (2 files in 1 directory):
05:13.11Ackiswtf too
05:13.12RepoCore: Added tenative support for both 10 and 25 man faction champions using new special handling code. DRYCODED: NEEDS TESTING!
05:13.27asmodaiAckis: "This will soon be over." (tm)
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05:30.00Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r202 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix a few issues
05:40.21asmodaiThe guild names people come up with
05:40.27asmodai"Hands up pants down"
05:42.06asmodai~alert
05:42.07purlI'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons...
05:42.16asmodai!alert
05:42.19asmodaiMMm
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05:47.49Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * 97a90c1 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+3 commits]
05:47.52Repo97a90c1: Mmmm
05:47.55Repo6f095d4: Added more of the base formula code in for hots, although they seem to be a bit of a pain and not want to work easily
05:47.58Repodf5c0b5: Math is hard, fixed 10-man Necrotic Poison being listed as 5% healing reduction
05:48.17asmodainevcairiel: Weird thing, seems to happen only for pet bar, minimenu bar or vehicle bar
05:50.45Ackisis reflux bugged for anyone?
05:55.17Groktaroffers you a slice of bacon
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06:23.19vithosyay Starcaller Vith
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06:34.21Adirelleckknight: the file "caveats" are not displayed on curse.com ?
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06:38.09Elkanowell, with a good VM, the programms running in it aren't aware of it, so it's expected that thay suggest to install one if you haven't
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06:38.51Elkanooh... I should check that I'm scrolled down to today before answering stuff I read ^^'
06:38.59theoddone33heh
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06:39.17ElkanoI'll just call it 14h of lag ;)
06:39.38theoddone33your answer is still valuable!
06:39.46theoddone33I mean I'm assuming it is, no idea what the question was
06:42.00Elkanowas refering to thisone:  <@Kaelten> should I be amussed or mortified that I'm recommended to install an antivirus on my VM of windows....
06:43.12Repo10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r77 / (2 files in 1 directory): Locales updated.
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06:51.01ShefkiRumor has it that OS X Snow Leopard is coming with Antivirus built in.
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06:51.34digmouse@describe inline-aura
06:51.35Repodigmouse: http://www.wowace.com/addons/inline-aura/. Inline Aura. Display aura information inside action buttons
06:51.52quiescensI'm pretty sure none of the mainstream vms are designed to be undetectable
06:52.21quiescensjust that most things don't care if they are running in a vm
06:54.43sb|workhm Kaelten - docsis 3.0 active :o
06:56.02digmousedoes anyone know why my chatframe1 do not show my /played?
06:58.34quiescenssystem messages?
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07:08.00Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r96 / (8 files in 5 directories):
07:08.03RepoAdded Aura support to Blessings Manager. Needs testing on a larger scale, but should auto assign sensibly. I wasn't able to extensively test the PallyPower module regarding the auras, so will need some feedback on this (That means you Fisker).
07:08.06RepoAlso removed 450 lines of code comprising the old talent queueing code in favor of LibGroupTalents-1.0.
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07:23.51mitch0didum
07:25.10mitch0erm
07:25.41mitch0is there a tag-naming convention that will tell the packager to ignore that tag and not create betas out of it?
07:25.53mitch0not even alphas
07:26.32mitch0also, can I remove files from curse?
07:26.48nevcairielall tags will be build
07:26.53nevcairielunless you disable beta building
07:27.05mitch0that kinda sucks
07:27.30mitch0I use tags to mark start of branch or merge points (I know, switch to git...)
07:27.41nevcairielseriously
07:29.21mitch0aaanyway, if I delete a file from wowace, will it also remove it from curse? if not, where's the same function on curse?
07:29.41nevcairielit should go away on curse as well
07:29.46nevcairieljust may take a few minutes
07:30.01mitch0ok, thanks
07:30.16mitch0will keep an eye on it :)
07:31.59asmodainevcairiel: saw my message?
07:34.29nevcairielabout only happening to pet/mini/vehicle?
07:35.32thulcomments on current gear: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Lucef%C3%A6r ? :-P
07:35.41nevcairielsucks
07:36.10thulpfft, it rocks
07:36.18thuli mis-enchanted the chest though :-P
07:36.18thulhave to fix that tonight
07:36.18asmodainevcairiel: aye
07:37.04sb|workget greatness
07:37.08asmodainevcairiel: oh, and stance
07:37.08nevcairieli didnt even look at it, thul :P
07:37.21nevcairielprobably everything thats not a default actionbar
07:37.29thulsb|work: working on it
07:37.42Shefkithul: Wow your gear is bad.
07:37.43sb|worknevcairiel: problems with disappearing actionbars!?
07:37.50sb|worki heard this from 2 guildies last night
07:38.11thulShefki: pffft :-P
07:38.22thulsoon 400 hit, 3k ap and 30% crit is not _that_ bad
07:38.31nevcairielthey apparently just changed their position data, if you change the anchor back to center it works again, or so i'm told
07:38.39thulbut I wonder if I should get more expertice
07:38.43thuland stop looking for hit-gear now
07:38.44sb|work(flame leviathan, the first didn't get actionbars in vehicle, the second didn't get his standard action bars after launching)
07:38.53sb|workthul: PvE? yes
07:38.53Shefkithul: I only sorta looked I was gonna say it was bad no matter how good it was.  Just to get a rise outta ya.
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07:39.03thulsb|work: pve, yes.
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07:39.05sb|workscrew hit, poison cap is enough :p
07:39.09thulhehe
07:39.13thulShefki: i knew that :-P
07:39.31sb|workexpertise sucks as rogue
07:39.41sb|worki know some people with 12-14 exp, and some with 30+
07:40.02sb|workyou have items with 0 or 60 expertise, thats bad :(
07:40.51asmodainevcairiel: yeah, I was the one who told ya :P
07:41.01thuli end up with 14, i guess i can live with that.
07:41.03asmodaiThat using center makes it work again :P
07:41.24thulI just dunno how much hit i really need as muti, I think I'll go for the mace in totc hc, and go combat or HaT again.
07:41.26nevcairielfunny thing, that is :P
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07:42.20asmodaiAye
07:43.02mitch0An error occured while saving or formatting tags <- will that ever be fixed? :)
07:45.23hastenope.
07:45.32hastebugs are there to annoy
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07:48.10sztanpet@project send-self
07:48.12Reposztanpet: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/send-self/. SendSelf. Game: WoW. Mourningblade (Manager/Author). Updated: 128 days ago
07:49.10thulhttp://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fail-owned-clarinet-painting-fail.jpg?w=500&h=375
07:53.11NeoTronhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Morasia WTS  >:-P
07:53.49theoddone33what's a surprise robit?
07:54.01NeoTrona robit that surprises you
07:54.17NeoTroninternal guild joke from BT/Hyjal
07:54.35NeoTronStarted with Surprise Gargoyles in Hyjal before.. err 3rd boss?
07:54.41NeoTronthe ones that spawn right on top of you
07:55.10theoddone33no ulduar hard modes?
07:55.15NeoTronthen we killed Shahraz in BT and got surprise robot trash (the 3rd or 4th one that hid around the corner - someone always accidently aggrod it)
07:55.27NeoTronall 10 mans, no 25.
07:55.34theoddone33oh nice
07:55.35NeoTronI ahve both 10 man 310% drakes
07:55.37theoddone33I want a rusted proto
07:55.49theoddone33but I'm in the "second group"
07:55.57NeoTronanyhow. Surprise Robot became Surprise Robit (in vent) for.. who knows why. just like we encounters fearsome Dargons
07:56.35NeoTron25 man raiding stopped because, well, people left
07:56.38NeoTronquit wow mostly
07:57.01NeoTron2-4 people a week culminating in 5 people in the last week (one being the guy who did 95% of all recruiting0
07:57.12NeoTronso we had 22 people and no one willing to put the effort into recruiting..
07:57.33theoddone33yeah keeping up a 25m guild is tough
07:57.41NeoTronso we did 10 man raiding, getting our drakes
07:57.53NeoTronthen I was basically done. I quit and with me the rest of the guild
07:57.54mitch0If I have a frame with backdrop/edge/etc, and I want to place a StatusBar in it, do I have to keep insets in mind when positioning it?
07:57.56theoddone33I don't think any guild on my server has 25 consistent, skilled people
07:58.07NeoTronout of the 15 or so raiders that were left, I think less than 5 continued elsehwere
07:58.10theoddone33done with the game?
07:58.12thulhmm, do we like DW dks?
07:58.15NeoTronyep
07:58.16theoddone33after 5 years?
07:58.17theoddone33nice
07:58.30NeoTronI started January 2004 so like 10 months before retail
07:58.38theoddone33I gotta play it
07:58.43theoddone33or I spend money on stupid stuff
07:58.43NeoTronthul: never got to try it in a raid
07:58.47sztanpetso any addon out there that makes the blizzard autocomplete not suck?
07:58.51NeoTronthul: I just picked up the weapons in preparation
07:58.54theoddone33I quit for one month and bought $500 of dvds
07:59.00theoddone33then I realized I'm better off playing wow
07:59.04thulNeoTron: hmm, ok
07:59.06NeoTronthul: I naturally also have an assortment of ilevel 232 weapons
07:59.18thulwell, I don't, so take me on a raid :-P
07:59.29thuli desperately need 232 sword mh/oh and 232 mh/oh dagger
07:59.30thulTAKE ME
07:59.32NeoTronme no raid no more
07:59.43NeoTronno no play. Account expires in a few weeks
07:59.49NeoTronit's bittersweet for sure
08:00.04theoddone33well now you can spend all that time playing online poker instead
08:00.06NeoTronfortunately a bunch of friends are going with me to our next MMO
08:00.06nevcairielI havent played for a few month, but still keeping my account for addon stuff
08:00.15theoddone33aeon?
08:00.19theoddone33champions?
08:00.26NeoTronnevcairiel: I fixed shit for 3.2. that's about it I think
08:00.31NeoTronChampions
08:00.35nevcairielAion was kinda boring, not going to play it
08:00.36theoddone33I've heard good things
08:00.39theoddone33about champions
08:00.41NeoTronplayed beta
08:00.55NeoTronit was entertaining. not perfect, needs work but they seem like a good cool bunch of people
08:01.26[Ammo]I'll be playing Aion next to WoW
08:01.30Codayus_I spent a few hours looking at Aion, and...I dunno, just wasn't feeling it.
08:01.39[Ammo]but mainly because lots of my old wow guildies play
08:01.43NeoTronI tried Aion briefly. the whole PvPvE aspect isn't top of my list
08:02.05NeoTronI did enjoy it and my choice was aion or champions... initially leaning towards aion
08:02.07Fiskerrages
08:02.08Codayus_Champions sounds interesting.  Don't suppose they've got a trial?
08:02.09[Ammo]we're a bunch of mean gankers
08:02.12nevcairielMeh i dunno, Aion just felt like a cheap copy of WoW with more flying
08:02.13[Ammo]so aion is excellent for us
08:02.26NeoTronCodayus_: the open beta just finished wrapping up unfortunately
08:02.31Codayus_:(
08:02.34Codayus_Didn't hear about it.
08:02.36NeoTrondoubt there will be a trial any time soon - mmo's usually don't have them
08:02.52NeoTronthe early headstart opens tomorrow at 10 am
08:02.53NeoTronoh
08:03.05Codayus_NeoTron: Mmm...I think more do than don't, but yeah, it's certainly not universal.
08:03.10NeoTronif you go to gamestop retail and get a preorder you can probably still get an early headstart for 5 bucks..
08:03.29NeoTronreally? which mmorpg's can you think of that had a trial at launch?
08:03.36NeoTronusually that comes later
08:03.51Codayus_No, not at launch.
08:03.57Codayus_I thought you were making a more general statement.  :-)
08:03.58NeoTronLater I am sure they will add it
08:04.12thulchampions? url? :-P
08:04.24NeoTronanyhow I don't know how long champions will last. I do know it will be fun to play for quite a few months
08:04.30asmodai[Ammo]: Heh, friend of mine complained about the ganking :)
08:05.04NeoTronhttp://www.champions-online.com/
08:05.04NeoTronsite is down for pre-launch maintenance I think
08:05.04asmodaiNeoTron: If you saw how it was during alpha, it has come a looooooooong way :)
08:05.08NeoTronsuper hero game. in some ways considered CoH 2 (same developer) but really not the same at all
08:05.11asmodaiNeoTron: It's quite solid now at least. Of course, if superheroes are your thing
08:05.13NeoTronno more same than Aion and Wow and EQ2
08:05.39NeoTronasmodai: so I've understood. I read an article where the devs stated they played the game a year ago.. and it simply wasn't fun even to them
08:05.48asmodaineeds to ask his buddy at Cryptic for alpha access to the Star Trek game ^^
08:06.05nevcairielbah the champions website is offline
08:06.13NeoTronI am not a super hero guy. I really am not in any way. Yet I find the character designer and power versatility very very fun
08:06.33NeoTronnevcairiel: indeed. I think they are zapping all the beta forums and stuff
08:06.56thulfoiubnd this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champions_Online
08:07.30NeoTronthey started their open beta with the worwst fuckup ever. couldn't patch or play the game for a day
08:07.47Fiskerslaps thul around a bit with a large trout
08:07.49NeoTronwhat I find very cool as a more technically inclined player is th ein-game ticket database
08:08.07NeoTronbasically a bug tracking system where you don't only keep your own tickets but can search existing reported issues by other players
08:08.12NeoTronand in at least one case, a GM
08:09.00NeoTronI hated not having the ability to report a bug in a reasonable fashion in WoW (as I did during alpha/beta)
08:09.18thulnone of those two seem to have mac clients
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08:09.21thulso fuck them
08:09.25asmodaiNeoTron: That has been up since alpha. Guess it doesn't come as a surprise since my friend who works there is also a Trac developer :)
08:09.27NeoTronunfortunately no
08:09.52NeoTronasmodai: it's never the less cool. Wow did have it during alpha/beta but they removed /bug at launch or shortly thereafter
08:10.11NeoTronthey have website integration with tickets, in-game mail (both read and send), friends etc
08:10.40asmodaiGuess Blizzard thought that the userbase would be too stupid to adequately use /bug
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08:10.48asmodaiI'm thinking they might be right :)
08:10.49RepoMorgDKP2
08:10.52Repo-added faction champs and twin valkyr triggers
08:10.55Repo-removed unnecessary special handling for northrend beasts
08:10.57NeoTronI don't expect to play Champions for 5 years... but it should be sufficient until SW:TOR
08:10.58Repo-fix syncing not automatically switching between broad/receive if enable syncing after in Raid
08:11.34NeoTronasmodai: the last issue I reported was #129344 or something in that range
08:11.37thulbah, why can't aion make a mac client :-(
08:11.39NeoTronand that's just beta
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08:11.39thulit almost looks good
08:11.42Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
08:11.48asmodaibug reports are good
08:11.51NeoTronthul: because almost no one does. that's what bootcamp is for :P
08:12.05NeoTronwhat's cool is that even during the few closed beta weeks they actually fixed bugs reported
08:12.14sztanpetany simple viewport setting addon out there
08:12.22NeoTronand their server patching took like 30-60m not 15 hrs :P
08:12.27sztanpetwowace needs a new search engine
08:13.00NeoTronCT_ViewPort!
08:13.06Caleb|2are there nowdays any pvp set that you can just buy for gold?
08:13.22NeoTronCaleb|2: crafted blues! :)
08:13.24Caleb|2like those blue sets used to be in TBC from like different factions
08:13.42NeoTronwell the equivalent to those likely would be the crafted ones
08:13.48NeoTronso yes, there are
08:14.07asmodaijeez, core i7 is interesting but wtf am I going to do with 4 cores + HT :S
08:14.13NeoTronasmodai: porn
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08:14.18NeoTronin HD
08:14.27asmodaiNeoTron: heh
08:14.35asmodaiHoping the decoder supports multicore
08:14.38NeoTronor have 4 games running at the same
08:14.57NeoTronmainly I have it because, well, no background tasks will ever mess up my games
08:14.59asmodaiAnd hope your videocard doesn't melt down
08:15.12thulNeoTron: and they lose customers from it :/ I won't reboot just to play a game
08:15.18thulI'll just stick with wow then
08:15.23NeoTronthul: they do but it's calculated loss
08:15.33NeoTronthul: I mean supporting mac isn't trivial
08:15.46NeoTronyou need an OpenGL engine instead of Direct3D
08:15.53NeoTronso it's a cost - benefit thing
08:17.19thulNeoTron: pfft, it takes _one_ line change in the cfg-file
08:17.19thulto change that
08:17.32NeoTronright
08:17.38thulyes
08:17.47thulsame engine as farcry, and from the mighty google web: But lo and behold: The Engine of FarCry is able to use OpenGL as well! Simply change r_Driver = "Direct3D9" to r_Driver = "OpenGL" in the system.cfg file in the Far Cry directory.
08:18.01NeoTronit might be modified
08:18.02thulso, i suspect that it is a ideological, as much as an economical decision.
08:18.25NeoTronbut regardless, porting is more work than that. and yes for Blizzard it's ideological for sure.
08:18.28asmodaiMaybe OpenGl will become more interesting again with the 3.x releases that have happened now
08:18.58thulit just annoys me, I hate working in windows and could never do that.
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08:23.23thulouch, I just found some old powerlifting images of myself. MAN I'm ugly when I'm squatting.
08:25.44WobinThe position in general is usually not overly flattering =P
08:26.19thulhaha
08:26.32Wobinof course, if you're in a pose where you have blood vessels popping in random directions, it doesn't really tend towards "pretty" in most senses of the word =P
08:27.04thulhaha
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08:28.31Fiskerlaughs
08:28.49asmodaithul: Well, Mac hardware is commodity yet overpriced. *shrug* to each his/her own. My boxes typically dual boot between Windows and FreeBSD anyway ^^
08:29.31thulasmodai: good for you, I love my osx :-)
08:29.41thuloverpriced it is surely not, as it sells as hotcakes.
08:30.07Wobinthis does not preclude the overpricedness
08:30.13asmodaiWobin: I was about to say.
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08:30.53thulif it were over priced, it would not sell as hotcakes.
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08:31.04Repo- zhCN bugfix.
08:31.32Wobinthul: Nah, Apple just has -good- marketing
08:31.35asmodaiNot necessarily true, you conveniently forget hype, status and so on.
08:31.59WobinThe pricing gradient is merely compared to other hardware of similar level
08:32.17WobinNot saying it's not good, just that it's often more expensive
08:32.20thul...
08:32.23thulyou people don't get it :-P
08:32.35thulif something is overpriced, it does not sell well.
08:32.47orionshockmorning all
08:32.54Wobinthul: no =)
08:32.58thulyou can say that it is, objectively too expensive if you look at hardware, software etc included.
08:33.11ShefkiWobin: You can't take and compare a Mac price wise to a Windows machine.
08:33.12thulbut it is not overpriced, the market decides what is overpriced and not by sales figures.
08:33.14Wobinif an item is overpriced, it is more expensive than something of equal quality
08:33.15ShefkiIt's not the same thing at all.
08:33.22nevcairielits the same freaking hardware
08:33.24nevcairieljust for more money
08:33.31thulwith osx, yes.
08:33.33ShefkiYou're buying the software.
08:33.35asmodainevcairiel: what I said initially, it's commodity hardware.
08:33.39Wobinthe term 'overpriced' does not affect it's popularity in any way
08:33.47nevcairielyou can buy OSX standalone, cant you?
08:33.54thulyes, you can.
08:33.54ShefkiNo
08:33.59thulyou can buy a leopard dvd.
08:34.03thulor a snow leopard dvd
08:34.04WobinI would say, most mobile phone plans for the iphone are 'overpriced'
08:34.09nevcairielfun how the fanbois are inconsistent now :P
08:34.11ShefkiYou can buy an upgrade package.
08:34.12Wobinbut that doesn't stop them from selling
08:34.17ShefkiBut you can't buy a full OS copy.
08:34.24thulyou can buy a full leopard retail dvd
08:34.25ShefkiThe only thing Apple sells is upgrade packages.
08:34.26thulI have done
08:34.32Shefkithul: No you can not.
08:34.41thulShefki: .. I have done it
08:34.42thultwo times
08:34.52ShefkiRead the fine print, it's an upgrade package.
08:34.55thul...
08:35.04thuli have used it to install a full retail installation on my pc-hardware :-)
08:35.12thulanyhow, back to topic
08:35.12Shefkithul: That's not legal.
08:35.18thulShefki: and?
08:35.20thulit is still a full retail dvd
08:35.21ShefkiYou're violating the license agreement.
08:35.22thul...
08:35.29thulok, Shefki is going to my ignore pretty soon :-)
08:35.32ShefkiJust becuase it's a full copy of the OS doesn't make it a full license.
08:35.35thul....
08:35.38thulignore it is
08:35.48asmodaiSo I stand by my initial point: Mac hardware is commodity, yet overpriced. :P
08:35.49WobinI'd assume thul bought it from an apple store or some othersuch outlet?
08:36.00thulindeed, I bought it from a local apple store
08:36.09Wobinso surely it'd be 'legal'?
08:36.16mitch0http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC190Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDAzOA&mco=NzgxNTAwOQ
08:36.19ShefkiWobin: It's legal to install on Apple hardware.
08:36.26nevcairielAnyway, even if you argue the price is due to the OS, then the freaking OS is way too expensive :P
08:36.27Wobin(and isn't he?)
08:36.30ShefkiIt's not legal to install on random PC hardware.
08:36.31asmodaiAnd then they accuse Microsoft of vendor lockin XD
08:36.36thulbut back to topic: the market decides wether something is overpriced than not. That is actually how simple it is. in my view.
08:36.45Wobinnot so
08:36.46thulyou could say that a domke bag is "overpriced"
08:36.51thulsince you can get a chinese copy for far less.
08:36.54WobinI would say being 'overpriced' is a personal opinion
08:36.55thulin the same material
08:37.05Wobincause I'm the one forking out the cash
08:37.17Wobinnot 'the market'
08:37.42asmodaiWobin: It's easy, I buy the same components for less than if I bought a mac with those components (leaving OS costs aside of about $150 or so)
08:37.44Wobinjust because a lot of people pay a lot of money for something doesn't make it 'cheap'
08:37.56thuland I never said that it is cheap
08:38.03thuljust that the market decided what the value is and should be.
08:38.06Wobinor a 'good price'
08:38.18thulif macs did not sell as hotcakes at the current price, it would be lower.
08:38.26Wobinit's overpriced and it's that simple, because you can get something of similar quality for a much lesser price
08:38.32Wobinthul: I doubt it
08:38.39thulit would :-)
08:38.43nevcairielthul: the market has no choice, you can only run OSX on Mac hardware, so they have no choice if they want/need to run mac =p
08:38.48WobinNot with Apple's marketing dept
08:38.53vhaarrthul: you're wrong, and one day when you grow up you'll understand
08:38.58thulif you want a BMW, you pay BMW prices
08:39.07asmodaithul: Compare that to a Lexus
08:39.13thulvhaarr: right, great argument :-) I'll drop out of law school and study rethorics at your feet.
08:39.21vhaarrnah
08:39.21asmodaiSame kind of car, yet quite a tad more pricey for similar components :P
08:39.23thulyou can get a skoda, that are just as nice as a bmw
08:39.27thulfor half the price
08:39.27vhaarrI wouldn't bother teaching you
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08:39.43vhaarrhence why I didn't make any arguments and just said "you'll see some day"
08:39.45Shefki"This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time."
08:39.48thulvhaarr: right
08:39.56ShefkiSince you cannot buy an Apple computer without a copy of their OS.
08:40.02ShefkiAll box copies you buy are upgrade versions.
08:40.02thulvhaarr: which is just your way of saying "you own me, so I don't have the balls to try to form an argument"
08:40.05thuland that is ok
08:40.07thulI have that effect on people :-D
08:40.18ShefkiAnyone that can't understand that is sticking their head in the sand.
08:40.24vhaarrno, it's not, you've got it completely wrong, which you'll see one day
08:40.39thulright :-)
08:40.58thuljust as I'll see jesus and find the right holy path one day
08:41.02asmodaiI loved the appeal to a higher authority by quoting your law school reference. ^^
08:41.03thul*pats vhaarr on the back*
08:41.18thulasmodai: hmm? did i appeal to authority at all there?
08:41.27thulasmodai: or just ridicule the lack of arguments in vhaarr original line.
08:41.33mitch0. o (kindergarden)
08:41.42thulif you want to point out logical fallacies, you should be sure that you know what they are and how they work
08:41.47thulor else, you look kind of stupid :/
08:41.50vhaarrI was trying to be funny, but now you're pissing me off
08:41.56ShefkiConsidering that when you're getting owned you just put people on ignore, I'd say you lack arguments.
08:42.13ShefkiBut you can't see me because you have me on ignore becuase you can't understand the concept of upgrade.
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08:42.18Elkanoanyone ever seen Takeshi's Castle? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vDIX6NiDfU
08:42.21thulvhaarr: I'm just trying to be funny on your behalf, sorry I'm much better at that than you are.
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08:42.56asmodaiWell, that ended it.
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08:43.12Elkanonow THAT was funny ^^
08:43.17Adirelleif i understood it, constantly adding and removing values to/from a lua table makes its internal index constantly grow
08:43.27Wobintakeshi's castle is weird
08:43.45Elkanowell, but doing it in BF2 is cind of wow ^^
08:44.01WobinI dunno
08:44.04Wobinputting it in a game
08:44.16Wobinremoves the whole viscereal "OMG That's a HUMAN doing that"
08:44.37asmodaiI guess the difference was semantic in nature. He probably pointed to the brand experience not being overpriced for what you're getting, whereas I just pointed out the same hardware is sold at inflated prices compared to buying it yourself. ^^
08:44.54Wobinasmodai: I suspect you're preaching to the choir right now =)
08:45.12asmodaiWobin: Hahaha, well, just trying to understand the point he was coming from.
08:45.16Wobin(although, in retrospect, that's a terrible phrase... I was in the choir and wasn't particularly religious...)
08:45.29asmodaiWobin: But I guess he didn't see the point which we were pointing out
08:46.05Shefkiasmodai: If you wanna look at it on a hardware to hardware basis you're right Apple is often more expensive.
08:46.16ShefkiHowever, Apple isn't trying to compete on a hardware to hardware basis.
08:46.50Codayus_True.  You're buying a lot more than the hardware.  If you don't value that...it isn't a good deal for you.  :-)
08:46.51asmodaiOh, I know.
08:46.54ShefkiApple is a system company not a hardware company or a software company.
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08:47.10asmodaiI just don't consider the experience worth the additional cash.
08:47.11Repomake dropdown background solid, so when used in select groups the texts are readable when dropdown is shown over other texts
08:47.14ShefkiDell is a hardware company that bundles Microsoft and other software companies software.
08:47.37asmodaiNor would I buy Dell :)
08:47.46asmodaiHeck, I built my own boxes.
08:48.05nevcairielI would never get a pre-built comp anyway, not mac or pc or anything
08:48.30WobinEh, I trust my local PC shop to put it together for me
08:48.32ShefkiAt one point I was very much as you are nevcairiel
08:48.41Wobin(although depends on how you define pre-built)
08:48.47Elkanomore random WTF? -> http://www.sinn-frei.com/ultimate-muscle-roller-legend_11273.htm
08:48.48ShefkiAt this point I use Macs becuase they really do just work.
08:48.58ShefkiI've run Windows and Linux and everything else.
08:49.00nevcairielSo do PCs when i build them, because i know wtf i do :)
08:49.08ShefkiAnd except for the Mac I always spent more time fixing it than I did using it.
08:49.38ShefkiAnd for a long time my hobby was fixing it.  But at this point I just want to do interesting things on it.  Not fiddle with the OS and the hardware.
08:49.56nevcairielFor linux thats true, i always spent ages setting it up, but i like doing it. When i install Windows, it just works. Especially Win7 just works instantly
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08:50.38Wobindid...
08:50.40Adirellenevcairiel: if I constantly set and unset table keys at quick rate, should I clean up the table to reduce its memory usage at some point (like what AceTimer-3.0 does) ?
08:50.43Wobinhe just reach down to change gears?
08:50.54WobinElkano: looks -very- japanese =P
08:50.57asmodainevcairiel: yeah, my current box (looking at a replacement now) has been rockstable
08:51.05Codayus_Ugh
08:51.08Elkanocould be 4c related though
08:51.15Codayus_Milling 1.5k herbs is waaaay too slow and time consuming.
08:51.23Shefkinevcairiel: Windows has gotten better, but the driver messes and conflicts and stuff really do tend to be a big turn off.
08:51.25Elkanobut for very japanese: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hcElGydzb8&feature=fvst
08:51.55nevcairielShefki: i didnt have to install a single driver, actually.
08:52.04nevcairielmost came bundled, windows update got the last of them
08:52.14ShefkiYou have to install and update video card drivers pretty regularly.
08:52.17ShefkiAnd sometimes you get burnt.
08:52.35asmodaiElkano: ACK
08:52.55ShefkiAnd you're not going to convince me that the default drivers that Microsoft ships are good replacements for manufacturer drivers.
08:53.01nevcairielof course it still happens when you use exotic hardware
08:53.11nevcairielbut chances are, that you would never be able to use that in a mac at all.
08:53.13Elkanoreminds me I should check for new drivers, too... but they don't release notebook drivers that often :/
08:53.38asmodainevcairiel: what's the current PSU requirements nowadays? With very good PSU I always managed to drop what other people said was required.
08:53.49asmodaiOne reason I'd never buy Dell
08:53.56asmodaiYou always have to use their nvidia drivers
08:54.07asmodaiunless you start futzing with the files
08:55.13Shefkinevcairiel: IMHO everything is pretty much exotic on the PC becuase there is no standard set of expected hardware.
08:55.33nevcairielShefki: actually, MS just ships nvidia drivers with windows update now, unmodified drivers.
08:56.01nevcairielasmodai: if you don't want to run SLI or a whole rack of harddrives, 500 will do you fine
08:56.46asmodainevcairiel: Nah, I find one power guzzler enough of a drain on the environment
08:56.58asmodaiso just a simple GPU for me
08:57.50asmodaiGuess if I am buying a new CPU I might as well fork over enough for the core i7 920 then to last for a while
08:58.08asmodaiPhenom II seems to be outperformed quite a bit by it.
08:58.51asmodaiA pity, since I like my Athlon 64 X2
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09:00.47nevcairielscrew that, my server with irc on it is having hick ups
09:00.52asmodai:(
09:01.02asmodaiMmm, wonder if I can reuse my Enermax Chakra casing
09:01.03nevcairieli had like lag spikes every 10s
09:01.16nevcairieland then suddenly a wall of text appeared
09:01.44nevcairielwonder if i can reach the ssh again
09:01.51quiescensits a figment of your imagination
09:01.51asmodairoute flap perhaps
09:01.56nevcairielhm nop
09:02.01nevcairielchecks the remote console
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09:03.37asmodaidammit, that Staray casing looks nice with the mount points for the side fans
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09:05.18nevcairielhm remote console isnt too responsive either
09:05.19nevcairielwtf is going on
09:05.31[Ammo]gremlins in the server room
09:05.36asmodainevcairiel: sounds like some strange routing
09:05.49nevcairielthe remote console let me log in
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09:05.53nevcairielbut it doesnt show any console
09:06.07nevcairielso i can reach it fine
09:06.15nevcairieland it should be directly on the rs232 port 0P
09:06.34profalbertwhy does AceDB fire the "OnNewProfile"-callback not when creating the profile but when switching away from the new profile? (using AceDBOptions)
09:07.42asmodainevcairiel: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/778
09:09.18asmodaithat or the Phoenix case
09:12.26nevcairielthere, managed to get to the remote reboot thingy
09:12.30nevcairielmaybe that helps
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09:13.28asmodai\o/
09:13.33quiescenso.o
09:13.52nevcairielnev`irssi is still here, and that thing runs on the server too
09:13.53nevcairielweird
09:14.12orionshockMikk:   http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=287128#post287128  --fixed
09:14.48asmodainevcairiel: or maybe still in the process of timing out ;)
09:16.47Repo10wtf (experimental): 03smb * r2 / (8 files in 3 directories): - initial commit v0.9
09:17.17nevcairieli got it rebooted, finally
09:17.28quiescensgrats
09:19.10nevcairielhm last log entry was around an hour ago
09:19.16nevcairielwtf happend to it in the time between
09:19.26asmodaimakes a mental note not to ask the local Mac boys about PC cases
09:19.56nevcairielI go an Antec 300 just a few weeks ago, pretty happy with it
09:20.00nevcairiel*got
09:21.30Repo10wtf (experimental): 03smb 04beta1 * r3 : Tagging as beta1
09:21.57asmodainevcairiel: yeah and a buddy of mine swears with Lian Li
09:21.59Wobinhttp://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/queens/2009/08/23/2009-08-23_rapper_schools_record_label_qns_ma_makes_warner_music_foot_bill_for_phd.html
09:22.03Wobinthat's pretty cool
09:22.08nevcairielthe lian li was too expensive for me
09:22.25asmodainevcairiel: most important for me is the airflow to the GPU, my current one is getting too little at the moment :(
09:22.34vhaarrprofalbert: you should file a bug about that
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09:22.48profalbertjust did
09:22.52nevcairieloh hey my other self is there
09:23.31quiescensoh no
09:23.34quiescenstwo nevcairiels
09:24.26Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5910 Ulduar (8 files in 1 directory): Fix p2 berserk timer.
09:24.31vhaarrah crap
09:25.20Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5911 Ulduar (7 files in 1 directory): Oops.
09:25.36asmodaiWobin: nice one indeed :)
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09:27.14asmodaisees many nevcairiels, all alike
09:27.18Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5912 Ulduar/XT-002.lua: Bad, bad funkeh.
09:27.35asmodaiCan't you blame Fisker instead?
09:27.41mitch0@describe wtf
09:27.43Repomitch0: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wtf/. Who's tanking - frames. Simple oRA3 Maintank Target Frames, based on oUF
09:27.50quiescensyou are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike
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09:28.27vhaarrasmodai: I *can*, but it's actually Funkeh` who made the mistake
09:28.28asmodaiOh noes, a Grue
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09:42.16Megalonincinerates Fisker
09:42.18Megalonburn troll
09:42.30asmodaiHaha
09:42.33asmodairetaliation!
09:45.10asmodaicalls PETA and tells them about Fisker
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09:47.22asmodaiJeez, some of these hardware reviews sites make me wonder if they get goods for good reviews :S
09:47.26Fiskerslaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout
09:47.54asmodaicalls PETA again
09:49.29sb|work[Ammo]: ping :p
09:50.44[Ammo]pogn
09:51.04asmodaiLike an Italian pong?
09:51.36sb|workcould you add an ora3 option to hide "personal" tanks? (aka 'show only blizzard maintanks' from my sortable list)
09:52.01[Ammo]setattribute("filter", "MAINTANK")
09:52.08sb|workmh...
09:52.08[Ammo]fix that in your addon :p
09:52.11sb|workokay ;)
09:52.24[Ammo]although you don't have sorting then
09:52.35[Ammo]or just X away all the personal tanks
09:52.35[Ammo]shrug
09:52.56sb|workyeah, but so every raid member has to X away personal tanks (when tank specs to dd for some bosses)
09:53.20sb|workso there should be the possibility to filter the "GetSortedTanks()"  list
09:55.56orionshockis it me or is curse syndication a bit slow tonight?
09:57.13[Ammo]sb|work: huh?
09:57.25[Ammo]sb|work: oRA3 does no tank broadcasting
09:57.46Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.9.1-15-g59e14b4 Code/ScrollAreas.lua: [+1 commit] fix bug in scrollarea-options where direction-choices did not update properly
09:57.49sb|workno
09:57.59sb|workbut if you set a blizz mt via oRA3
09:58.08sb|workit will be set for all playeres
09:58.20sb|work(=> "remote add")
09:58.28orionshocksb|work: that's because ora3 uses the blizzard api for MT's
09:58.35sb|workyea i know :p
09:58.38orionshocknaturally those are synched via client side, not addon side tho..
09:58.40sb|workthats not my point
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09:58.52sb|workbut oRA3 just adds up those tanks
09:59.00sb|workto the 'sortable list'
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09:59.51sb|workso this list will grow over time, but you can't remove them all (as leader) - every player has to remove them
10:00.17[Ammo]so?
10:00.39[Ammo]any guild will have like what 6 tanks?
10:01.00[Ammo]the list will not be very long
10:01.11sb|workand maybe warlock tank for this boss and that boss etc. - but they will all show up in my frames :)
10:01.17sb|workand i don't care for warlock tanks in 'normal fights'
10:01.23[Ammo]then X em
10:01.34[Ammo]or don't use oRA3's list
10:01.37[Ammo]but the regular blizzard MTs
10:01.51sb|workyea, i use the regular blizzard MTs!
10:02.01sb|workbut if i set them as blizzard MTs
10:02.11sb|workthey will be added to the oRA3 list
10:02.13[Ammo]hehe
10:02.14sb|workfor every player
10:02.17[Ammo]yeah
10:02.34sb|workso you do mimiron, set warlock as blizz MT it will be in the oRA3 list - thats fine
10:02.52sb|workbut if you remove the warlock after that fight - it will still be there and will still show up in every player's mt frames
10:02.55sb|workthats my point :)
10:02.56[Ammo]I think I could do something
10:03.10[Ammo]hrmf
10:03.51sb|workwell i could ninja implement some option in my addon - getblizzadtanks, getoratanks and filter those who are not in blizzardtanks
10:03.58Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07stable * v1.9.2 / (30 files in 6 directories): [new, +2 commits]
10:04.01Repod7b09e5: update changelog
10:04.02sb|workbut its not that nice to do this in the display-addon :p
10:04.04Repo8b4a1e8: fix bug in scrollarea-options where direction-choices did not update properly
10:04.09Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.9.2 * 868ffd2 /: [new tag] tag as v1.9.2
10:04.23[Ammo]I suppose I could add another icon
10:04.27[Ammo]like a Pin
10:04.36[Ammo]so you can pin those tanks to be permanen
10:04.44[Ammo]any non-pinned tank will not be saved
10:05.04Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r5913 / (7 files in 5 directories): frFR Update
10:05.10[Ammo]kinda meh though
10:05.45Elkanoammo, oRA3's zone check sorting breaks/fails when the raid updates
10:06.06[Ammo]give error
10:06.19[Ammo]oh you mean it doesn't sort in the player correctly
10:06.24[Ammo]but just adds them at the end
10:06.28[Ammo]and you have to click the sort again
10:06.39sb|work[Ammo]: yea i understand, that would break the  sorting thing if you don't pin them
10:07.25Elkanoammo, exactly
10:07.42ElkanoI sorted by zone and it even messed those already sorted
10:07.47asmodaibut hey, Blizzard has tank support nowadays? :|
10:08.17Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.9.1-16-g608abf3 CHANGELOG.txt: [+1 commit] fake-commit so that alpha-users don't get downgraded to v1.9.2
10:08.27Elkanothey've had it for a long time
10:09.18sb|work[Ammo]: whats the problem with some "hide non-blizzard maintanks" - so they will get greyed out in the sorted ora3 list (something like offline players are displayed)? do some table intersection on blizz + sorted list *shrug*
10:09.33sb|workbut if you don't want to do that, i can implement such behaviour in my display addon, i don't care ;)
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10:13.56asmodaiElkano: but in what sense?
10:27.36harl?
10:30.44Fiskerbtw [Ammo] any chance of getting auto-mainassist/maintank in ora3?
10:32.59sb|workno need for that
10:33.03sb|workits 1 click :o
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10:33.49Fiskeroh yeah
10:33.50Fiskeri forgot
10:33.53Fiskerit's fucking protected
10:33.55Fiskerstupid blizzard
10:33.57Fiskeri hate you hell
10:33.59Fisker+ti
10:34.02Fisker+to*
10:34.32mitch0I heard macs are overpriced. is that true?
10:34.50mitch0ducks
10:35.46Camci[12:33] <Fisker> i hate you hell
10:35.46Camci[12:33] <Fisker> +ti
10:35.46Camci[12:33] <Fisker> +to*
10:35.51Camciwat?
10:35.58Fiskeryep
10:36.04Camciwot?
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10:37.19mojosdojovhaarr: Hodir module, isn't cloud_you = "Cloud on you!" unnececssary nowadays?
10:38.18sztanpetnah, its usefull with people not noticing
10:39.22mojosdojosztanpat: no, i'm talking about latest api changes
10:39.35MegalonCloud, do a barrel roll!
10:40.23mojosdojoas far as i understand, you don't need a specific locale entry anymore
10:42.01Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07stable * v1.9.3 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
10:42.04Repocacf480: update changelog
10:42.07Repo3008edb: fix typo
10:42.12Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.9.3 * 04ffd6d /: [new tag] tag as v1.9.3
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11:08.02vhaarrmojosdojo: you're 50% correct
11:08.29mojosdojovhaarr: why 50%?
11:08.53vhaarrsince the actual buff is called something like "Storm Cloud", we need to translate "Cloud", which is what should be in the module
11:09.00vhaarrbut the rest is in the common locale in prototype
11:10.01[Ammo]or just make the message Storm Cloud on you
11:10.02[Ammo]shrug
11:10.14mojosdojoyeah, i saw that, that's why i'm asking
11:10.18vhaarryou shrug, I say the shorter the messages the better
11:10.43Repo10wholib: 03sylvanaar * r103 LibWho-2.0/LibWho-2.0.lua:
11:10.46RepoWHO_LIST_UPDATES were causing nil reference errors when sorting the who list with no query outstanding. Added a check to prevent the error message.
11:10.48[Ammo]I say Storm Cloud is short enough
11:11.16mitch0I have an addon that puts a number in a frame presently with optionalal backdrop/border settings. If I want to add the option to also show a StatusBar, the simples way would be to create my "base" frame as a StatusBar, and set it to 0 if bar mode is disabled, and set it to the displayed value otherwise. Does that sound ok?
11:11.36vhaarr[Ammo]: do you know what it's called in the other locales?
11:11.57mojosdojoit's short in german ;)
11:12.01mojosdojosturmwolke
11:12.08vhaarrright, but it might not be in other languages
11:12.19Zeksiesuprising... german is usually 30+ characters :)
11:12.26Wobinhehe yeh
11:12.31vhaarrI say the rule-of-thumb should be that if the english name has more than 1 word, it should be translated in the module
11:12.37mojosdojoZeksie: yes^^
11:12.42vhaarrbut if it's just one word, like "Flames" or whatever, then use spellName
11:12.45Wobinwhy would german use 11 characters, when 54 will do!
11:12.55Zeksie:)
11:13.07Wobinof course, it -does- end up much more descriptive
11:13.13mojosdojoWobin: because it sounds better
11:13.22[Ammo]using the actual spellname is a lot better actually, since people look up the abilities on wowhead etc
11:13.24mojosdojo*cough*
11:13.46vhaarr[Ammo]: which is what the new spell descriptions in options will help with, now they don't have to tab out
11:13.53Wobinnah, everything sounds more awesome in Russian
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11:14.02[Ammo]the messages should reflect those same names
11:14.11vhaarrI disagree
11:14.35vhaarrthe messages should reflect the minimum required for the players brain to connect the message to the ability
11:14.50vhaarrso you can instantly recognize and understand, instead of spending your time parsing it
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11:15.06mojosdojoi agree with both, it's a case-to-case decision
11:15.18vhaarrthat's why I said "rule of thumb"
11:15.24vhaarr<vhaarr> I say the rule-of-thumb should be that if the english name has more than 1 word, it should be translated in the module
11:15.24[Ammo]and in the case of storm cloud, it's short enough im,ho
11:15.25profalbertbrain parsing, lol
11:15.26mojosdojolook at mark at vezax
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11:15.48vhaarrI'm not discussing this with anyone except ammo, so we'll just stop it here
11:15.56sb|workis there an easy way to check a table for values? (e.g. i want to know if t = { 'dog', 'cat' } contains cat? (multiple times)
11:16.30sb|workor is the (best, only, easiest, ...) wat to iterate over the table every time?
11:16.30Wobinlua doesn't have a .Contains, if that's what you're asking
11:17.06sylvanaarbuild the reverse table with a count
11:17.06WobinYou could use the values as indexes
11:17.20Wobinthen go if t["cat"] then
11:17.21sylvanaar^^
11:17.32sb|worksylvanaar: what? :P
11:17.33Zeksiedepends how often and how big really. whether it's worth the effort.
11:17.45sb|workmhh
11:17.47sb|workokay, its not
11:17.51sb|worki will iterate then :p
11:17.52Wobindepends on how often it changes
11:18.20sb|workwell, >5 minutes - so doesn't matter
11:19.01Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r5914 / (9 files in 2 directories): Change some deDE entries due to recent API changes
11:19.49profalbertt["dog"]=true means faster lookup, and slower insertion than table.insert(t, "dog")
11:19.54profalbertright?
11:20.24nevcairieltotally depends on how you need to access the data
11:20.53Zeksieslower by the tiniest of tiny amounts. you'd only notice it with 10s of thousands of iterations
11:20.58Wobinin general usage, the difference is negligable
11:21.53Zeksieand conversely, if t.dog = true is easier to code, and debug. then it's time well spent
11:23.51Fiskerslaps Zeksie around a bit with a large trout
11:23.52sylvanaarwhy did you specify multiple times?
11:24.33Wobineh, what are you doing? Better to get the whole explanation all at once =)
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11:57.35asmodainevcairiel: btw, highly confusing mess: Gigabyte X58-UD3R vs X58-UD3R-SLI
11:57.59asmodainevcairiel: Especially if you look at the components, the former one now supports SLI via BIOS as well.
11:58.25asmodainevcairiel: So why two boards with no difference (aside from a minor bump in the GBe LAN 8111C->8111D)
11:59.17nevcairielI only see one of those boards on their website
11:59.19nevcairielin two revisions
12:00.38nevcairiel1.0 with the C lan chip, and 1.6 with the D chip
12:01.31nevcairieler, other way around
12:01.33nevcairielbut anyway
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12:12.23Wobinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TetU1KMhbEA
12:12.24WobinO
12:12.29WobinI'm looking forward to this movie
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12:30.19GibbonzZeksie: still getting incorrect talent specs (Text view) come up with r330 :)
12:32.17phyberprofalbert: what's with Parrot not showing skillups lately?
12:32.33phybera few commits back it looks like it was commented out in the code? :o
12:32.47mitch0what's with LightHeaded not creating TomTom waypoint lately on coords click?
12:32.59profalbertphyber: hmm, let me digg
12:33.25profalbertphyber: you're talking alpha right?
12:33.33phyberyeah.
12:33.46phyber1.9.1-17-g259ccac
12:33.54phyberbut it's been this way for a few days now
12:34.21Gibbonzalso, anyone notice RatingBuster showing stat summaries on stuff you can't use? Sure it never used to :p
12:35.04profalbertphyber: you're right, I didn't adapt the code for skill gains
12:35.13profalbertwent to sleep after loot ;)
12:35.18phyberhehe :)
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12:40.34ZeksieGibbonz: Yeh. Not surprised. I'll see if I can apply some of the logic from LTQ into it's query. How often is it wrong?
12:40.49ZeksieSeemed ok for me last nite, but then I don't have any mods that thrash at the inspect queue
12:42.15Gibbonzhmm thats a good question... I'll see if i can figure out something meaningful to go with :p
12:45.18Zeksiedid it happen to be when people were joining raid?
12:45.51HjaltePLEASE NOTE: Your Fallen Earth Open Beta client will not work with the Fallen Earth Open Beta.
12:45.58HjalteOh noes.
12:46.52GibbonzI'll try get some friends together for some testing and let you know
12:48.16Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r282 / (5 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus:
12:48.19Repo- Split death warnings for DPS in to mele and ranged.
12:48.22Repo- Corrected translation for deDE Rogue poison.
12:50.36Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.9.1-18-gf41b8ef / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] make skill-gains-notifications work again
12:50.59phyberyay :)
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12:51.41profalberthmm... reputation needs the same fix
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12:59.23Gibbonzinfact tonight will be a good test as its naxx 25 farm night :p
13:00.40nevcairielasmodai: did you read up on some tests of that board? the feature set does look fine, and i'm planning getting a new comp as well, in the next 1-2 month, anyway.
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13:12.58millushi
13:13.58millusi'm just starting with developing an addon for wow. Is it possible to add a visual circle to a totem with lua? just being a noob that asks :)
13:14.40vhaarrmillus: you can't interact with the game world from an addon
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13:15.10vhaarrwell, except nameplates
13:16.00milluscrap :) thx for your reply
13:16.40milluswould be handy if you could see the range of the totem with a circle like a blizzard or something like that
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13:32.35jnwhitehmitch0: whats the issue you're having with it
13:32.40jnwhitehI haven't heard anything, so I dunno :P
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13:35.41jnwhitehmitch0: shoot me an email (at gmail.com) with the info and I'll take a look at it.
13:35.45jnwhitehjust so i know what i'm supposed to be looking at.
13:35.55jnwhitehbbl
13:37.08Repo10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 07statusbar * r27 / (3 files in 2 directories): implemented bar support. [drycode]
13:37.21mitch0jnwhiteh: it doesn't work :)
13:37.37mitch0jnwhiteh: click on LH [ coord ], no tomtom arrow
13:38.01mitch0could be tomtom though for all I know
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13:41.27ElkanoToC25 with randoms sure is fun ^^'
13:43.11Gibbonzhehe or naxx 25 pugs failing before even filling the raid, let alone making it past the instance portal :p
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13:45.39mitch0or peeps flying way up above nexus looking for the entrance of Oculus (someone said it's above the nexus entrance) and getting killed by the dragons up there, but landing on one of the terraces so he can't res :)
13:45.55mitch0<-
13:45.57mitch0:)
13:46.03Elkanowell, at least we manged the Northend Beasts in the 3rd try ^^
13:46.09Funkeh`quit wow
13:46.36akromatLol.
13:46.36Gibbonzhehe
13:46.38mitch0funkeh: you missed a /
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13:46.42mitch0:)
13:48.20mitch0(that pretty much ended the heroic farming for me that night :)
13:49.43mitch0who can update addon pages that are owned by wowaceSVN?
13:50.14mitch0someone should drop a link into LSM-3.0's main page to point to http://old.wowace.com/wiki/LibSharedMedia-3.0 for the API docs
13:50.24mitch0(or move the info from there, but that's more werk :)
13:51.36Elkanoyeah, maybe I should do that ^^'
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13:57.33Gibbonztime to go play with that new xperl revision.. and try get a ToC hc group for that polearm :)
13:57.59Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r5915 Coliseum/Beasts.lua: Coliseum/Beasts: Fix stuff I missed from API update.
14:01.08mitch0elkano: would it hurt to put a link to the API docs at the bottom of the Main page? (thanks for the first part though ;)
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14:06.01Elkanoyeah, would be a pain ;)
14:07.42mitch0you are a hero! :)
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14:08.27nevcairielit would be even smarter to just copy the api to the new page
14:09.16mitch0nev: there's a main page now with a short info, and an API page with the api docs, the main page now links to that. all on "new" wowace
14:09.44mitch0or you'd prefer to have the api docs right on the main page?
14:10.37nevcairielnah, i just didnt realize he moved the api docs already
14:10.50mitch0I was surprised, too ;)
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14:11.11Rekehi
14:12.06Kaeltenmorning
14:12.22mitch0afternoon
14:12.26Rekeis it possible to let an addon wait for some seconds? I didnt found a function for this
14:12.37mitch0no
14:12.50mitch0at least not the way you most likely want to do it :)
14:13.12asmodaimorning Kaelten
14:13.19mitch0there's a thread with the same topic on the forums though
14:13.22Rekeso ive to make a while loop ?
14:13.22asmodaiKaelten: already added 2 more bug reports XD
14:13.29mitch0no
14:14.10mitch0reke: either use a timer (like AceTimer or whatsitsname, or do your timing stuff in an OnUpdate of your own
14:14.35mitch0s|,|),|
14:14.37Kaeltenasmodai: nice
14:15.34Rekek thanks
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14:26.44Repo10queeg: 03Drool * r42 Queeg.lua:
14:26.47Repo- fix intermittent error when updating player cache at login
14:26.50Repo- fix ticket 1; repackage fixed LibWho-2.0 to resolve shift-click /who
14:27.20XtekOoooh Mac IRC clients are so purdy.
14:28.25XtekTime to buy a MBP.
14:29.07Repo10queeg: 03Drool 041.2 * r43 : Tagging as 1.2
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14:34.46kadrahilit should be illegal to work on fridays
14:35.03nevcairielsure, you can work sundays instead
14:35.10kadrahil:|
14:35.11mitch0we'll work tomorrow :(
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14:42.44orionshockKaelten / ckknight, would it be too much to ask for the web guys on curse.com to put in big letters to not submit bug reports via comments section on the curse.com page? or to give authors the ability to delete comments there? :)
14:43.05Kaeltenauthors are spost to have that ability now
14:43.08Drooliowe can delete comments now can' we?
14:43.34Kaeltensposta
14:43.52orionshockholy shit it worked
14:44.03orionshock.. aparently we can, didn't think that button did anything?
14:44.09Kaeltenlol
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15:07.28ThaokyDoes anyone know where I could find some info on this kind of format : D_MINUTES = "%d |4Minute:Minutes;";  to be accurate, I'd need details on the |4
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15:08.30Ackis| is a pipe and 4 is a number
15:08.31Ackis:D
15:08.34Thaokyx)
15:08.40kadrahilO RLY
15:09.55Thaokymy problem is that this format returns a plural with both 1 & any other number, whereas if I add brackets at the beginning & the end, I correctly get (1 minute) and (4 minutes)
15:10.12Thaokyso I was wondering if there was anything I had misunderstood :)
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15:10.32durcynjust feed it through string.format and i think you'll be pleased with the results
15:10.43Thaokythat's what I did
15:11.58Thaokyprint(format("%d |4Minute:Minutes;", 1)) gives me "1 minutes"
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15:12.51Thaokyprint(format("(%d |4Minute:Minutes; )", 1)) gives me "(1 minute )"
15:13.35durcynyou should just be doing print(string.format(D_MINUTES,"1")), iirc
15:13.36Zeksieer... (1 |4Minute:Minutes; ) is what i get
15:13.52Zeksiei thought it only affected screen elements.
15:13.56ZeksieFontStrings etc.
15:14.10jnwhitehThaoky: you can't type "|" in the edit box
15:14.14jnwhitehyou need to use \124 instead
15:14.38Thaoky@ducryn, same if 1 is passed as a string
15:14.40Zeksieand ofc you're right.. /selfslap
15:15.15Thaokynote: testing in game with wowlua, don't know if it modifies anything on the fly
15:15.24jnwhitehit doesn't modify anything
15:15.26jnwhitehthe wow client does.
15:15.49jnwhitehotherwise people who use "|" in messages would get bad behavior.
15:16.12Thaoky\124 doesn't help either :(
15:16.25Thaokyat worst, nvm, I'll display "1 minutes" :p
15:16.37durcynoh, here we go
15:16.39Thaokymight be a client bug
15:16.44durcynFrameXML/UIParent.lua:                  time = time..format(D_MINUTES, tempTime);
15:16.46sylvanaaryou can do || as well
15:16.54durcynit should work fine in addon code
15:17.28durcynand it should just be returning "Minute" or "Minutes", fwiw
15:17.51ThaokyI'll check UIParent.lua
15:17.52durcynunless i just woke up and misread it, which is a possibility
15:19.14Thaokywell, it's doing the same as I'm doing
15:19.38Thaokyclient bug imo
15:20.46RepoNew knowledge base page: http://kb.wowace.com/common-issues-faq/ by Ackis
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15:30.15RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/common-issues-faq/ by Ackis
15:30.51Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r366 modules/ChatLink.lua: make the module information string localizable
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15:38.59Yivrysame question as in #curseforge: using AceConfigDialog, can you just alter the optionstable you passed to it on the fly, and will it show immediately?
15:39.02Yivry(like: a dropdown box being disabled when the toggle next to it is switched off)
15:40.14Zeksieif the disabled thing is a function, yeh
15:40.40Zeksieit'll re-evaluate the disabled/hidden things on current menu level
15:42.06Yivryok so no need for other calls, just edit the table and it will update the screen? nice
15:42.51Zeksiemmm, not sure about table. thought you meant having a callback func for it. like a hidden property function
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15:43.27YivryI meant (like i said in my example) i have a toggle, and a dropdown box
15:44.02Yivrythe moment the toggle is on, the dropdown box must be enabled, when the toggle is off, it must be disabled (grayed out)
15:44.18Zeksieyeh. that part is common enough. but you don't generally modify the options table unless really required.
15:44.37Zeksieyes, as i said. you want a disabled function for the thing you want to grey out
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15:45.05Zeksiein it's definition... set = bla, get = bla, disabled = function() return bla end,
15:45.32Yivrynot 'disabled = true'?
15:45.39Zeksieno no
15:45.56Zeksiea function that returns the true or false
15:46.16Zeksiethis way it can be re-evaluated without you having to change the options table
15:46.29Yivryah right now I get what you mean
15:47.30Yivrythanks :)
15:47.35Zeksiewelcome
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15:58.45Repo10boss-tactics: 03sorontur * r48 / (8 files in 1 directory): BossTactics:
15:58.58Repo- final 2.14 release
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16:32.43Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2362 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: Ticket 753 fixed.
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16:43.03Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2364 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: Ticket 694 fixed.
16:43.35VecIn Bartender4: My bar1 is bound with 1-R-Q-V-X ect.
16:43.45Veccrap, missclick, more comming
16:44.38VecI want: When entering a veichle i want bar1 to dissapear and another bar to pop with the veichle skills, but bound to 1-2-3-4-5 ect. not 1-R-Q-V-X
16:44.42VecHow do i make this happen?
16:45.03nevcairielthats not exactly easy to do
16:45.35VecBut having veichle binds with my bar1 binds is very cumberstone
16:46.15VecI assume i need to use coustom conditions of sorts, would you happen to know how to make this happen?
16:46.47nevcairielI don't think its really possible right now.
16:47.08ShefkiCan be done with Macaroon, no idea about bartender.
16:47.37ShefkiYou can link bar states to each other with the same conditionals as what you'd use in macros.
16:47.56nevcairielYou can with bartender too, but you can't change keybindings.
16:48.11Shefkinevcairiel: If they're separate bars they should be able to have seperate keybindings.
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16:48.26nevcairielbut for example the "1" key is already bound
16:48.27VecBut the thing is, 2 bars need to have the same binds, the "1"
16:48.44ShefkiMacaroon seems to be ok with that.
16:49.18Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2365 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: Ticket 712 fixed.
16:49.52nevcairielweell, you could bind the 2-0 on another bar, and configure it to be a vehicle bar as well
16:50.07nevcairielso you have both bars as vehicle bars, one for the 1 key, one for the other keys :P
16:50.21VecYeah, why not
16:50.23Vec:)
16:50.31VecIll give it a go *brb
16:50.37nevcairielyou can hide the second bar, of course
16:50.41nevcairieljust make sure its enabled
16:52.02Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2366 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: Ticket 711 fixed.
16:52.33Ackis@project arl
16:52.34RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), pompachomp (Author), Torhal (Author), Elkano (Tester), AesirRising (Ticket Manager), BWMerlin (Ticket Manager), Zhinjio (Former author). Updated: 11 minutes ago. Tickets: 70/811
16:52.39Ackis70 tickets :(
16:54.05Zhinjiowonders when he turned into Former.
16:54.07Zhinjiogrins.
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16:56.19Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2367 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: Ticket 715 fixed.
16:57.32nevcairielSo if i'm looking for some really good horror movies to watch, what would people recommend? Doesnt have to be a recent movie, just really good :)
16:57.53FiskerThomas the Tank Engine
16:58.44Zhinjiodo you prefer gore horror or pyschological horror
16:59.29Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2368 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: Ticket 748 fixed.
16:59.32nevcairielnot so much gore, i guess
17:00.06Ackisspice world
17:00.12Ackiswatching that movie == horror irl
17:00.22Ackisbrats is a close second
17:00.27nevcairielnot helping :P
17:00.48Zhinjiothinks
17:01.11FiskerThomas the Tank Engine is the best one Ackis
17:01.12Zhinjiodid you see "Seven"?
17:01.20Zhinjiomorgan freeman, brad pitt, anthony hopkins
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17:02.48Zhinjiokevin spacey
17:02.49Zhinjiosheesh
17:03.15VecIm in a veichle, with veichlebar enabled, but it does not show, the only way i can leave is by pressing my name and clicking leave
17:03.35Vec(Started again after quitting in march, so if theres been a change please inform :)
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17:14.03Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2369 RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua:
17:14.06RepoMake the tailoring recipes filter via faction, fix the one tailoring recipe which was whacked and add obtain flags to all of the 3.2 ones.
17:15.50sb|work@project wtf
17:15.52Reposb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wtf/. Who's tanking - frames. Game: WoW. smb (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 hours ago
17:15.56sb|workyay it works :P
17:17.19Gagoriannevcairiel: http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Genres/Horror/average-vote
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17:17.41nevcairieli went through that list already
17:17.56nevcairielbut thanks :P
17:18.18GagorianAlright, I'll try to think of something
17:18.26GagorianGood horror movies are very rare
17:18.40GagorianUsually they fuck up something
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17:22.26GagorianLike House on Haunted Hill had potential to be rather good, there's some good scenes, but it was completely ruined by the ending
17:23.51Fiskerhttp://www.ted.com/talks/eric_giler_demos_wireless_electricity.html <-i oooh'd then aaah'd
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17:27.25Gagoriannevcairiel: Seen The Descent?
17:28.02nevcairielI think i did
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17:30.38GagorianWhat about 28 days later?
17:32.22Gagoriannevcairiel: Also http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0164181/
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17:34.31Repo10libdualspec-1-0: 03Adirelle 04v1.2 * e392da2 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.2.
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17:36.57Gagoriannevcairiel: If French is ok then, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0856288/
17:38.55Repo10diminibar: 03Graveeater * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): Initial import.
17:39.40sztanpet@describe diminibar
17:39.43Reposztanpet: http://www.wowace.com/addons/diminibar/. DiminiBar. DiminiBar shows the diminishing return of CC abilities.
17:39.53sztanpetawesomeness
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17:42.25Repo10diminibar: 03Graveeater 04beta 0.1 * r3 : Tagging as beta 0.1
17:42.28RepoI think there are some things still not correct considering timing.
17:42.31RepoAlso, there are obviously many cc abilities missing.
17:44.19Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5917 / (2 files in 1 directory): Add a user warning on load.
17:44.28Repo10diminibar: 03Graveeater * r4 .pkgmeta: Fix package-as
17:45.26Repo10unconversablegnome: 03Rabbit * r8 core.lua: Protect against infinite loops in ~ commands.
17:45.47nevcairiel@describe unconversablegnome
17:45.48Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/unconversablegnome/. UnconversableGnome. A simple purl reimplementation for WoW. It provides the user access to simple ingame chat commands (commands are actually exe...
17:45.54nevcairiellol
17:46.01Repo10transcriptor: 03Rabbit * r113 Transcriptor.lua:
17:46.04RepoAdd the new spellcast events, although I didn't add a custom formatter for their arguments, as I have no idea what they are.
17:46.23Repo10broker-reagents: 03Rabbit * r10 reagents.lua: Bugfix.
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17:51.38vhaarrnevcairiel: feel free to contribute, it's crap at the moment but it's fun to play with :P
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17:51.53nevcairielits a fun idea :D
17:52.02Graveeaterdo I have to create a Component for the bugtracker to work?
17:52.02nevcairieldoes it trigger when other people type commands?
17:52.27Yssarilvhaarr: what if more than one person in the guild runs the addon?
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17:52.34Stanzillavhaarr: some message on ignis just said "DEBUFF on $name"
17:52.45vhaarrStanzilla: smack Funkeh`, he raped my API
17:52.46Stanzillanot what debuff it is
17:52.49Stanzillazomg
17:52.53StanzillaFunkeh`: yo fool!
17:53.05vhaarrnevcairiel: yeah it does
17:53.12nevcairielheh nice
17:53.23quiescens$N!
17:53.23Yivrywhoo it works, thanks Zeksie :P
17:53.42quiescenswhat did you break
17:54.13vhaarrnevcairiel: I was tired of copy+pasting the ventrilo server details so I made a macro then I thought "hey, I need purl", so now I just type ~vt in raid chat and it prints it ^^
17:54.22nevcairielha
17:54.33Funkeh`Stanzilla, not my fault, thats whats in the lcoale
17:55.31sztanpetGraveeater i think it needs to be simply approved first
17:55.41StanzillaFunkeh`: i use enGB, don't trick me :o
17:55.55sztanpetand when it is, i shall add my first feature request, to be able to have simple icons instead of bars
17:55.58sztanpet:D
17:56.14ZeksieYivry: mmm, what?
17:56.19GraveeaterWell, patience is not my strenght ^^
17:56.31Funkeh`Stanzilla, one of the modules had the locale debuff on you
17:56.33Graveeateryou want Icons instead of bars, or icons on the bars?
17:56.35Funkeh`I cant remember which one
17:56.39Funkeh`so I left it as it is
17:56.40Yivrythe toggle disable dropdownbox I asked earlier today :P
17:56.47Zeksieahhh. :)
17:56.58Yivrywas at work so couldnt test it
17:57.05StanzillaFunkeh`: I dont understand what you mean but "DEBUFF on playername" is not very helpful :D
17:57.34sztanpetGraveeater icons instead of bars
17:57.42Funkeh`not my problem
17:57.47asmodainevcairiel: got a toon here where ALL bars are set to bottom-left >_<
17:57.48Funkeh`it was there so I'm not going to change it
17:57.56asmodaiThat or they chain from one
17:58.12Funkeh`self:Whisper(player, "DEBUFF, watch out!", true)
17:58.15Funkeh`yogg saron
17:58.22Graveeatersztanpet, like the standard ui debuffs?
17:58.24quiescenswatch out!
17:58.31sztanpetyea
18:00.09vhaarrFunkeh`: that's something I added locally and it's not actually used in the module, but that's not what Stanzilla reported either
18:01.10asmodainevcairiel: oh but hey
18:01.16asmodainevcairiel: the other thing: http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/bars.png
18:01.29nevcairieli know about that :P
18:01.37Funkeh`vhaarr, ignis doesn't have any locale with the word DEBUFF in it
18:01.39asmodainevcairiel: but you never commented :(
18:01.51vhaarrFunkeh`: I'm not Stanzilla :P
18:01.59Funkeh`Stanzilla, ^
18:02.10nevcairielDEBUFF was probably just a token to say that there the debuff name was :P
18:02.11Graveeatersztanpet, fill a ticket once you can. I'm not sure whether this will come however
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18:02.29sztanpetyea sure, thanks for even thinking about it tho
18:02.48Fiskerhttp://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/08/28/bill-could-give-obama-control-of-internet
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18:08.38StanzillaFunkeh`: wtf do I know? :P it said "DEBUFF"
18:09.31Funkeh`no clue
18:10.06steevwhere does one find out what the SetPoint(...) stuff is
18:10.53steevessentially, i have an addon thats putting something under the minimap, i want to move it to the top right of the screen itself
18:11.04steever
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18:11.06steevtop left
18:11.12steeveh, either would work really
18:12.07steevdo I do SetPoint('TOP', UIParent, ?, 0, -15)
18:12.21steevnot sure what to put for ? since i don't want it to be at the bottom of it
18:12.30Graveeaterthe ? should be relativeAnchor
18:13.07NivFreakhow nerfed is IC hard (25man) now?
18:14.21EndDid they nerf it?
18:14.39steevahh okay
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18:22.08steevGraveeater: yeah, i was looking on wowprogramming (and not finding it - asked our sysadmin who's done a few addons and he said to look on wowwiki so thats what i did)
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18:33.20Stanzillahrm, wasn't there an icon for "swarm" on auriaya?
18:33.28Stanzilla(in bw) looks weird without one
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18:41.02steevwoohoo
18:41.04steevfinally got it
18:41.23steevi needed to set the first thing in SetPoint to TOPLEFT and then do the offsets
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18:43.48Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2370 RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua:
18:43.52RepoAdd skill levels to tailoring, closing off ticket 674.  I think I did them all.
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18:49.14Repo10libgrouptalents-1-0: 03Zeksie * r17 LibGroupTalents-1.0.lua:
18:49.17RepoFix error when someone zones in and respecs immediately before they've been scanned once.
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18:57.42Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2371 RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua: Ticket 760 fixed.
19:00.00Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta3-10-g62c550f Main.lua: [+1 commit] Ticket 562: Vehicle swap stuck when zoning out of an instance removed
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19:03.34Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2372 RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua: Ticket 744 fixed.
19:04.56Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2373 Docs/CHANGES.txt: Changelog update.
19:04.56asmodai*sigh*
19:05.01asmodaignome deathknights with a mohawk
19:05.08cubicoolSO ANNOYING
19:05.27asmodaiThat about sums it up
19:07.32Yivrydeath to all gnomes
19:08.15cubicoolwait wait
19:08.18cubicoolgnomes are awesome
19:08.25cubicoolJust not mohawk DK's
19:08.25Megalonlet's build a pyre out of all trolls
19:08.32Megalonand burn all gnomes with on it!
19:11.48Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2374 RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua: Ticket 720 fixed.
19:12.57Ackisdon't diss trolls
19:15.14asmodaiwow, playing a paladin after 9 months sure brings some changes with it
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19:17.28asmodaime like -- especially seeing how painful it was since 1.8 XD
19:20.12Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2375 RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua: Ticket 690 fixed.
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19:25.59Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2376 RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua: Ticket 695 fixed.
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19:43.19vhaarrFunkeh`: it's completely fucked
19:43.34vhaarrFunkeh`: all warnings on Thorim, for unbalancing strike, bomb in hallway, hammer etc
19:43.34Funkeh`elaborate? :P
19:43.47vhaarr"Unbalancing Strike: %s on you."
19:43.58vhaarr"bomb something %s on %s: <player>"
19:44.00vhaarror something
19:44.05Funkeh`um
19:44.18vhaarryou fix nau
19:44.53Funkeh`I don't see how, the string format is %s  on %s there iant no concat anywhere WTF
19:45.20AckisFunkeh`: could it be that your project is experimental? *hides* :P
19:45.26Funkeh`fuck off
19:45.36StanzillaAckis: xD
19:45.54Ackisbtw I checked and your project was synced like right after you left
19:46.25Ackis~cookie Funkeh`
19:47.31kadrahilfail <reply>
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19:48.50durcyncookie is a builtin for a random factoid
19:48.52durcyntry again.
19:49.16Ackisnah that factoid works for me
19:49.30Ackisbesides he only gets 1 cookie since he told me to fuck off :P
19:50.03Fiskerhey Ackis
19:50.05Fiskerwanna make out?
19:50.15Ackissure
19:51.00XtekDon't be talking bad about Cookies.
19:51.58durcynAckis: you misunderstand, it's hardcoded in CommandStubs.pl to call $random
19:53.07Ackisdurcyn: no I know what it did
19:53.10Ackis:)
19:53.35durcynjerk.
19:53.43Ackisyup
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19:54.56Yivryany news on if/when CC4 will go to beta?
19:55.20nevcairielsoon(tm)
19:55.28Ackismac or PC?
19:55.30Yivry(since I see 'download with CC4'-links on curseforge)
19:55.33YivryPC
19:55.37nevcairiellast i heard they are waiting for an infrastructure upgrade
19:55.49nevcairieland then go public beta
19:55.50nevcairielor something
19:56.37asmodaiholy moly, that's a lot of rain dropping
19:56.51Ackisrain drops keep falling on my head!
19:57.06Yivryhere too lots of rain and thunder
19:57.10asmodaiit's a cloud break here
19:57.20asmodaiYivry: NL?
19:57.27Yivryyea
19:57.30YivryAmsterdam
19:57.42asmodaiR'dam here
20:01.23vhaarr[2009/08/28 22:00:40-14471-x2]: BigWigs-2.0 r5914\Prototype.lua:458: bad argument #2 to 'fmt' (string expected, got nil)
20:01.23vhaarr<PROTECTED>
20:01.26vhaarrFunkeh`: ^ on freya
20:01.30vhaarrall warnings fucked as well
20:01.50Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r5918 Ulduar/Thorim.lua: Ulduar/Thorim: bugfixes
20:02.15mitchnullis there any limit on statusbar:SetMinMaxValue() ?
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20:08.28Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r5919 Ulduar/Freya.lua: Ulduar/Freya: bugfixes
20:12.08vhaarrFunkeh`: [2009/08/28 22:11:28-14472-x1]: BigWigs-2.0 r5917\Prototype.lua:442: bad argument #2 to 'fmt' (string expected, got nil)
20:12.08vhaarr<PROTECTED>
20:12.14mitchnullanyone had problems with StatusBar not displaying?
20:12.30Funkeh`vhaarr, yes, that was due to the freya module
20:12.30Yivrylol... http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fail-owned-mirror-reflection-fail.jpg people like this just need to be shot tbh :P
20:12.45vhaarrFunkeh`: I updated, we wiped
20:12.48vhaarrstill errors
20:13.32mitchnullGetValue() is 27095, minvalue = 0, maxValue = 59517, still no bar... backdrop and border visible though
20:13.45mitchnulldunno what could I do wrong :(
20:17.19Zeksiedid you set value before min/max values?
20:17.46mitchnullnot sure
20:17.56mitchnulldoes it matter?
20:17.57Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r5920 Ulduar/Freya.lua: Ulduar/Freya: Another missing variable not being passed...
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20:18.15Zeksieyes it does
20:18.39mitchnullisn't it possible to change ths min-max values on-the-fly?
20:18.55Zeksieit is, but the first time value is always clipped to current min/max, which is 0,1
20:19.10mitchnulloh, that's ok
20:19.24mitchnullwhen I set min-max later, I set value afterwards
20:19.37mitchnulldo I have to use a template when creating the status bar?
20:19.58mitchnullright now I have this: self.mainFrame = CreateFrame("StatusBar", "PetTimeToLiveMainFrame", UIParent)
20:20.29mitchnullI set the texture to default blizz texture, set some color (alpha is 1)
20:20.34mitchnullyet no bar
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20:23.33mitchnullah-ha...
20:23.41mitchnullGetStatusBarTexture is nil
20:23.56Zeksiemissing some extra / ;)
20:23.59Zeksie\
20:24.25mitchnullI copy-wasted the string from LSM
20:24.43mitchnull[[Interface\TargetingFrame\UI-StatusBar]]
20:24.56Zeksieand put it into "" cos you didn't like [[ ]] ?
20:25.06mitchnullnah ;)
20:25.12Zeksieumm
20:27.56mitchnullself.mainFrame:SetStatusBarTexture(barfFile)
20:28.07mitchnullwhere barFile = that string
20:28.22mitchnulland after this self.mainFrame:GetStatusBarTexture() is nil ...
20:33.13steevhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ul8VgHojN7U/SoroRbQ79AI/AAAAAAAAV6U/Nhvq1gASp5c/s1600-h/61-particlephysics.png
20:35.26mitchnullseemingly same code works in Castbars :|
20:38.13mitchnulldo I have to embed the StatusBar into a normal Frame?
20:38.26mitchnulldoesn't make sense...
20:41.35Zeksiehave you checked if that old LSM string is even valid now? find where UI-StatusBar is in the blizzard API source.
20:42.06Zeksienah. statusbar should work fine on it's own, if it has height and width, and is on screen.
20:42.29Zeksieit's basically a frame with a single Texture region internally.
20:43.23durcynUI-StatusBar is valid.
20:43.29durcynand your path is correct
20:44.01Zeksiehang on..
20:44.08Zeksieyou have barFile and barfFile
20:44.13Zeksie:)
20:44.32mitchnullgoddarn
20:44.34Zeksieheh
20:44.39mitchnullthanks ;)
20:44.45Zeksienp
20:44.47mitchnullwas driving me crazy...
20:44.53durcynthis is where `luac -l -p *.lua | grep GLOBAL` is useful =P
20:45.00mitchnullsuddenly MiniD makes a lot more sense to me :)
20:47.02vhaarrFunkeh`: I dunno which boss is doing it now but I  got the error 10 more times after doing mimiron I think
20:48.09mitchnullyay! there's my bar
20:48.15mitchnullit's fuggly though
20:48.36mitchnullit draws over the backdrop/border
20:49.19mitchnullso I guess I'll still need a separate "container" frame to set the backdrop on, and adjust the StatusBar position based on the insets
20:49.57Zeksieyeh, you can't put the backdrop straight onto a statusbar.. looks wrong.
20:50.05mitchnullhrmp
20:50.08mitchnullwork work...
20:50.19mitchnullbut anyway, the basics are working, thanks again
20:50.32Zeksieanytime
20:53.29Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2377 RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua: Ticket 706 fixed.
20:56.03mitchnullhm. the update seems a bit jaggered
20:56.19mitchnullbut that's probably because the bar is too "slow"
21:01.08Repo10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 07statusbar * r28 PetTimeToLive.lua:
21:01.11Repothe bar shows, but doesn't play well with border/backdrop... needs more work
21:02.11Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2378 RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua: Ticket 716 fixed.
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21:08.30Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2379 RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua: Ticket 726 fixed.
21:10.08Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta3-12-gfb96720 / (3 files in 3 directories): [+2 commits]
21:10.11Repofb96720: The unfilled part of the CastBar should fade out along with the filled
21:10.14Repoe11ed70: Shift UNIT_FACTION support for bars out of the specific bars and into
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21:15.48Pneumatussome of the stuff people write on guild apps is absolute gold :o
21:16.26PneumatusQ: If you are applying for a dps spot, explain how you ensure that you maximise your dps (other than gear/talents):
21:16.35PneumatusA: i can play agresiv an i can play wise its all up to the fight i use all my abilitys in any fight
21:17.26Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2380 RecipeDB/ARL-Tailor.lua: Ticket 738 fixed.
21:17.29Zeksiesounds like a keeper!
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21:17.58Pneumatusyeh we're totally gonna recruit him, so we can see him palying agresiv or wise!
21:18.06Zeksierofl
21:18.14Ackiscan i app?
21:18.37Ackis@project arl
21:18.38RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), pompachomp (Author), Torhal (Author), Elkano (Tester), AesirRising (Ticket Manager), BWMerlin (Ticket Manager), Zhinjio (Former author). Updated: 6 minutes ago. Tickets: 58/811
21:18.45Ackiswow nice
21:18.53Ackis74 tickets when I started, 58 now
21:19.07durcynjust delete them already
21:19.07Ackisplus Torhal just got pinged, so bonus
21:19.12Repo10paparazzignome: 03Rabbit * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory):
21:19.15RepoDon't screenshot bosskills that we've screenshotted before, saved per-char.
21:19.18XtekThat be a lot of tickets.
21:19.23nevcairielmore gnomes
21:19.23nevcairielwtf
21:19.28Pneumatusalthough, when we open for ret palas i expect more comedy than serious business
21:19.28vhaarr\o/
21:19.48AckisPneumatus: I can be a ret priest! :P
21:20.07Pneumatusthree problems
21:20.13Ackisonly three?
21:20.17Pneumatus1) there's no such thing as ret priest
21:20.24Pneumatus2) you play US, we are EU
21:20.28Pneumatus3) you play horde, we are alliance
21:20.38Ackisway to shit on my dreams
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21:21.42Ackisbtw how do you all like the new wowace password and e-mail change shit? :P
21:21.48Pneumatusanyone able to reccomend a decent book to learn VC++ when i've got solid programming/OOP knowledge? :)
21:22.17AckisVC++ for dummies?
21:22.27Ackis(Honestly I used C for Dummies to learn)
21:22.55Zeksiejust get stuck in and press random keys until the compiler stops complaining.
21:22.57Pneumatusi learned C from the K&R book :)
21:24.53PProvostvhaarr: CG is dead, right?
21:25.17vhaarrno
21:25.31PProvostbringing it back eh?
21:25.41vhaarrit has worked all along
21:25.44nevcairielPneumatus: specifically about the Visual part, or more like learning C++ ?
21:25.48vhaarrit's a LDB display with keybindings for sets now
21:25.56PProvostfine
21:25.59PProvostso... the old code
21:26.03vhaarris gone
21:26.08PProvostthe one before Equipment Manager
21:26.09PProvostYeah...
21:26.14PProvostI would like to use some of it
21:26.40PProvostAll that EquipItem etc stuff
21:26.47PProvostMay I?
21:26.50Pneumatusnevcairiel: specifically the visual part
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21:26.55Pneumatusalso, same questing for VC#
21:27.00Pneumatus*question
21:27.08PProvostI'll have to tweak it for what I want, but it looks pretty close to what I need
21:27.31vhaarrPProvost: can I ask what you're making?
21:27.32TorhalAckis: You ping indiscriminately!
21:27.32nevcairieli'll have to pass, then
21:27.58PProvostI've got an addon called AvgItemLevel that helps you know what everyone's effective ilevel is for vehicle fights
21:28.12Pneumatusive got a 20 line WoWLua page
21:28.17PProvostI want to add a feature to auto-equip the highest iLevel set from what you have on and in bags
21:28.20Groktarmoved my guild's website to a new host today
21:28.24Groktarmuch better than the old one so far
21:28.28PProvostSo I need all the equip code
21:28.30vhaarrPProvost: yes sure
21:28.34PProvostI've got the set worked out already
21:28.39vhaarrPProvost: but remember that it's flawed for some unique cases
21:28.40PProvostI'll credit you of course
21:28.44PProvostOh?
21:28.45durcynGroktar: linode imo
21:28.48vhaarryes it has always been
21:28.55PProvostflawed how?
21:29.11vhaarrI don't remember the exact cases
21:29.11Groktararvixe
21:29.14PProvosthaha
21:29.15vhaarrbut they're rare
21:29.16PProvostNo worries
21:29.29Groktarsomeone in my guild was using them for their own site
21:29.32PProvostI might turn it into something rediculous like LibItemEquip
21:29.33PProvosthaha
21:29.40vhaarrPProvost: basically they didn't happen often to me on my toons, so therefore I never cared to fix it :P
21:29.46PProvostcool
21:29.47PProvostno worries
21:29.53PProvostIf I find it, I'll deal with it
21:29.57PProvostThanks man!
21:30.24vhaarrnp
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21:35.27Pneumatusholy crap, if i find a book on amazon i could cash out some of my reward points :o
21:40.25Yivryhow much you got?
21:41.11Arrowmasteri still need to cash out mine, i should go create a paypal account
21:42.02ulicPneumatus: oh good call, I need a new iPod.
21:42.18Pneumatusive probably only got enough points for half a book
21:42.21Pneumatusbut thats better than nothing
21:42.41Pneumatus879, apparently
21:42.57nevcairielthat could be enough for a book
21:43.06PProvostAre they going away or something?
21:43.08nevcairielexcept that you cant cache it in like that =p
21:43.21nevcairielsends Pneumatus 121 more points
21:43.42ulicyea 1000 is a good mark.
21:44.10Pneumatusim tempted to get the Deitel book, as i seem to remember a lot of people swearing by the C version when i was at unit
21:44.13Pneumatus-t
21:44.24Yivry441 points... hmmmm I need to write a more used addon :P
21:44.25Pneumatuswhich happens to be the most expensive one i have found so far as well
21:44.30nevcairielthere, now you have a full 1000 :P
21:44.53Pneumatusim GB nev :P
21:45.00nevcairielsucks to be you, i guess
21:45.17nevcairielmind you, i pay 1443 for a 50€ thing :p
21:45.30Yivryat least youve got the possibility
21:45.38YivryI still cant do anything with my points
21:45.58nevcairielyou could order from amazon.co.uk, or from amazon.de
21:46.03ulicyea the uk & de ones get ripped of it seems, well at least if you're trying to buy time cards.
21:46.06Pneumatusyou've topped me up to be able to get an extra £10 card though
21:46.19Pneumatusso i can get £30 total
21:46.51nevcairielulic: its not really ripped of, its just the US -> EU or GBP conversion .. well granted, the rate isnt the best, but what can you do
21:47.14nevcairielits about the same as when i let paypal convert the 500 USD into Euros
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21:47.28ulicI was hopin I could buy yoshimo a card from the US amazon, but I guess the time cards are region specific :(
21:47.42nevcairielyou can send him points =P
21:47.50Pneumatusyeh, you can split/send points
21:48.06ulicyea, but I can get more us time per point than I can de time :)
21:48.13Zeksiesaving for an SSD 60gb.
21:48.26nevcairielwell yeah, the US time cards are cheaper too, afaik.
21:48.33Arrowmasteryou can purchase points for other people on battle.net, i dont see why the cards would be region specific
21:48.45Arrowmasteryou could always just call up blizzard billing and ask them if they are
21:48.58Arrowmasters/points/game time/
21:49.03Pneumatusim thinking i might get http://www.amazon.co.uk/Visual-C-2008-How-Program/dp/0137011830/ref=pd_cp_b_0
21:49.06ulicArrowmaster: I read it someplace that seemed legit, dont' remember where.
21:49.15Pneumatusthe US version at least looks well rated
21:49.17Yivryghe at this rate it takes only 7 years before I can purchase the $500 :P
21:49.28nevcairielha
21:49.37nevcairieli do that in 2 month
21:49.48nevcairielbut i got some amazon thingys this month :P
21:49.52Yivrywhich addons are yours?
21:50.01Arrowmasteri should write something super popular, only about 1/3rd of the way to my 2nd $500
21:50.05Yivry(i probably use some :P )
21:50.21steevwhoa
21:50.26nevcairielBartender4, Mapster .. and i get a fair share of Ace3 and the stuff going with it
21:50.29ArrowmasterYivry: Bartender4 is nevcairiel cashcow
21:50.34steevthis member of our guild - he's been in the guild for 3 years
21:50.49Yivryhmm bartender4... i should reinstall that
21:50.49NivFreakgkick
21:50.51steevdeleted his toons and account
21:51.01steevbecause he didn't get promoted to raider rank
21:51.02ZeksieXPerl gives me a nice chunk a day. nearly 100 on it's own
21:51.03Ackissteev: you can't delete your account sheesh
21:51.10steevAckis: well canceled
21:51.17steev(im going based on what was stated in the forum post)
21:51.18Ackis;)
21:51.24ulicsteev: so he finally realized his addiction and went the cold turkey route?
21:51.45steevulic: no idea -he was rarely ever on to be honest
21:51.51steevwhich was part of why he wasn't getting the promo
21:51.58ulicah
21:52.09Yivrywow thats a lot... these are my gains:
21:52.09Yivry6 hours ago  0.1841  Generated points  ItemSetChecker 6 hours ago 4.6142 Generated points Yury's RuneDisplay
21:52.12steevalmost level 68 \o/
21:52.40nevcairieli currently get 230 a day or so
21:52.43steev3 days 8 hours /played
21:52.47nevcairieli didnt check the exact numbers this month
21:52.56nevcairielits a new month soon anyway =P
21:53.01steevhmm
21:53.06Zeksie230.. nice. 100 ish more than mine.
21:53.08steevyury's runedisplay eh
21:53.27Yivryaye steev
21:53.36Yivryyury is my DK :P
21:54.03asmodaiwonders what professions to take on his DK
21:54.04Arrowmaster6 hours ago 0.0714 Generated points GloryLib
21:54.08steevooh thats the one
21:54.09nevcairiellol
21:54.12Arrowmastermy lowest point earning addon
21:54.13steevthat displays under the char
21:54.18ulicYivry: yea I only get like 10-11 day for my little-wigs, but I'm cool with that considering they're not even true addons, just modules for one.
21:54.21nevcairielhm my lowest
21:54.22nevcairiellets see
21:54.23Arrowmasterapparently i stoped getting points for LibGUIDRegistry-0.1
21:54.30steevasmodai: engineering, jc
21:54.34Arrowmasterpeople must have uninstalled it
21:54.40steevor jc/inscription
21:54.42Yivrysteev: you can place it anywhere you want ;)
21:54.52steevYivry: ahh, well i might look into grabbing taht
21:54.53asmodaisteev: but no gathering profession?
21:55.01Yivrymy DK has BS... bad decision :P
21:55.14asmodaiYivry: heh, looking at BS it didn't seem to add much.
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21:55.32Yivrybe sure to grab the beta steev when you do, its much better :P
21:55.45asmodaijc has a few spots that are a freaking PITA to level
21:55.49ArrowmasterKaelten: are points earned for addons marked abandoned?
21:55.52Yivryit adds 2 extra sockets, so combined with JC thats a big bonus
21:56.00steevYivry: http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/played.png - working on this as an interface - still need to change some things up
21:56.07Yivrybut then you need mining on at least 1 other char
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21:56.35Yivryow looking good
21:57.38steevwish the f'n queue would pop more
21:57.46steevits an AV weekend and ti takes like 20 minutes to get into one
21:57.53nevcairielyou should really get rid of that default ubuntu'ish gnome color scheme :P
21:58.46steevbut... it is human gtk2 theme :(
21:59.17Yivrybtw, any of the 'write an addon for wow' books on amazon?
21:59.32Yivrymaybe nice as a first thing from the points :P
21:59.34Arrowmaster~wowprogramming
21:59.35purlWorld of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com
21:59.44nevcairielgood book ^
22:01.26Pneumatustheres a 2nd edition in the works, isnt there?
22:01.30Kaeltenyes
22:02.06nicoli_swritten in pig latin
22:04.03Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5921 Ulduar/Ignis.lua: Bugfix.
22:04.13vhaarrStanzilla: fixed, Funkeh` failes at commas
22:05.21Stanzilla^^
22:05.21Stanzillathanks
22:06.09Yivryare there any restrictions? i mean, can I get the US gift certificates? (live in the netherlands) or are there limits, like with beta-key give-aways?
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22:07.46nevcairielYivry: you can get whatever you want, as long as you're sure that you can use it, too.
22:08.45Yivryok nice. that means I can buy the book for $6 + shipping :P
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22:13.56NivFreak%Wayward Conqueror: 46
22:13.56NivFreak%Wayward Protector: 37
22:13.56NivFreak%Wayward Vanquisher: 54
22:14.02Pneumatus£15.48 for my book after amazon vouchers :)
22:14.03NivFreakboo RNG on my tokens ;)
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22:14.37Pneumatuser, that doesnt add up to 100%
22:15.14NivFreakthat's count
22:15.18NivFreakno percentage
22:16.38Pneumatusany idea if gift vouchers can be used for amazon marketplace purchases?
22:20.01vhaarrgod damn this is a good read and nails those fuckers right on
22:20.01vhaarrhttp://torrentfreak.com/independent-film-company-responds-to-berr-consultation-090827/
22:20.19vhaarrif any politician in the UK can support it after reading that, they should be executed
22:20.45Pneumatusstupid thing is, copying DVDs isnt against the law at the moment!
22:20.56vhaarrpeople keep talking about the "law"
22:21.04vhaarrwhile the law is in fact completely irrelevant as it stands
22:21.17vhaarryou can't criminalize 70% of your teenagers, it doesn't work that way
22:21.21vhaarrno country can
22:21.26vhaarrthe law must be adapted
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22:23.26Pneumatusoh wait, the loophole was for selling copies, not actually making them
22:23.44vhaarrusually it's the other way around I think, so that's weird indeed :P
22:23.59Pneumatushttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6083182/Selling-illegal-DVDs-not-illegal-because-of-blunder.html
22:24.29Pneumatus25 year old loophole in the video recordings act
22:25.48Pneumatusand Prat still fails at .co.uk domains :<
22:25.59Pneumatusand org.uk
22:26.04Pneumatusto the ticket list!
22:32.59taledenI don't suppose there's any way to do function- or even file-level CPU profiling ingame, is there?
22:34.24Zeksielike turning on with /console scriptProfile 1
22:34.34Zeksieand then using something like PerformanceFu.
22:34.37Zeksieor whatever
22:34.49Zeksiethat only does mod level profiling tho
22:35.09taledenthat's the thing, Addon Profiler shows my addon eats a lot of CPU, I'm trying to figure out how to figure out where that's happening
22:35.11Arrowmasterthere are more precise profiling options available
22:35.26Shefkitaleden: ResourceTools is useful.
22:35.28Arrowmastertaleden: does your addon use embedded libraries?
22:35.38Zeksiedid use a good one for a while, but it stopped working long ago
22:35.45taledenyes and that was my first response when a user reported the problem
22:35.52taledenbut it happens even when running no other addons at all
22:36.08Zeksieyes, it would. if you load all the libs in a subfolder.
22:36.37Arrowmasterrun disembedded and see what happens
22:36.46Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r203 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix a few errors in questsTracker and achievementTracker
22:37.02taledenif no other addons are loading, mine should be the only one using the libs it embeds
22:37.08taledenin which case I still want to optimize that
22:37.44Zeksiewell.. do you want to be responsible for how active Ace3 is and it's 10 parts, and whatever else.
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22:38.50vhaarrtaleden: yes but you don't get it, if you disembed then you can see which library is causing it, or if it's your addon specifically
22:39.06Zeksieit also might well be normal operation. Give users a bit of knowledge and they'll think they can start pointing fingers
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22:39.32Zeksieif your addon is the top using addon, but is still only using a very small amount of cpu.. for example
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22:56.35Adirelle@describe autoroller
22:56.36RepoAdirelle: http://www.wowace.com/addons/autoroller/. AutoRoller. Automatic rolling on items
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22:57.21Pneumatuslooks like PassLoot but with nowhere near the features
23:01.30Primerhttp://thedw.us/post/173931036/pie-chart-of-the-day-well-duh-its-a-well-known
23:02.14Zeksieheh
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23:09.48Gnarfozvhaarr, Funkeh`: is "bandage" the shortest range for the proximity check?
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23:12.03Pneumatusisnt there a melee range check as well?
23:12.32ShefkiPneumatus: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CheckInteractDistance
23:12.55ShefkiPneumatus: And IsSpellInrange()
23:13.04Shefkis/r/R/
23:13.09Fiskerslaps Shefki around a bit with a large trout
23:13.23Pneumatusyeh, i thought that bigwigs used a shorter check than bandage range for mimiron, for example
23:13.38ShefkiPneumatus: Probably Duel.
23:13.57ShefkiBandage is 15 yds IIRC.
23:14.22Pneumatusyeh, and napalm chaining certainly isnt as far as 15 yards :)
23:14.53ShefkiPretty sure Napalm is 5 yds.
23:15.19Pneumatushmm, bigwigs uses bandage range for mimiron
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23:17.24aestilanyone running wow @ 1920x1200 or greater using an HD4890 video card?
23:17.55ShefkiI run 2560x1600 with an nvidia 8800
23:18.17PneumatusGnarfoz: coliseum beasts and thorim use duel proximity it seema
23:18.20Pneumatus*seems
23:18.36aestili've heard that WoW is mostly CPU bound
23:18.54Shefkiaestil: To a point.
23:19.03aestilin raids especially?
23:19.16aestilmy wife has an E8400
23:19.22aestiland i'm not sure what video card.
23:19.28aestili have to check into that.
23:19.40aestilnow is probably a bad time to buy anyways.
23:20.00aestilthe new parts are coming out soon and a low end part from the next gen is probably faster than a 4870 today.
23:20.30Pneumatusim happy with my 4870 :<
23:21.07Pneumatusalthough i did have an X1950 before that so it was a reasonable jump :)
23:21.54ShefkiThe 4870 is a pretty darn nice card.
23:22.21ShefkiI had a X1900 before the 8800.  Biggest reason I switched was the X1900's ate themselves from heat.
23:22.41Pneumatusmy x1950 died at the start of summer, i can only assume from overheating
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23:23.03Pneumatusalthough it had been playing up for a while, the hot weather finally killed it
23:23.12ShefkiProbably, they had horrible problems with heat.  I played musical cards with them a couple times and finally gave up and got the nvidia.
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23:24.21Pneumatusdespite their problems, they are still more reliable than maxtor disks :)
23:24.44ShefkiI'd like to get a new card but right now I'm pretty much stuck with the 8800 becuase all the other options either lack 2 Dual Link DVI ports or don't have EFI32 support.
23:25.21Pneumatusim not upgrading again until SSDs come down in price more, and i can do a complete replacement
23:26.00ZeksieShefki: up went from a 8800gt to a gtx275 and while nearly every other game showed marked improvement, wow was disappointing.
23:26.17sztanpetsame for me
23:26.43Zeksiecpu rarely peaks over 60% usage, so would conclude it's memory bandwidth issue.
23:27.11ShefkiYeah the GTX275 was what I would want to upgrade too but can't do it without an injector card and I don't have enough power to run it and the 8800 as an injector so I'd have to buy a GT120 which makes it a rather expensive upgrade.
23:28.32ShefkiUnfortunately I got my MacPro before they switched to EFI64 so I'm stuck.
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23:29.04GnarfozPneumatus: exactly, Mimiron was the reason for my question, because that proximity check has a way too high range
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23:29.30PneumatusGnarfoz: yeh, it looks like it should be dropped down to duel range assuming there's no shorter option
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23:31.58StanzillaGnarfoz: I noticed that today, too
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23:55.59Groktarfuck
23:56.09Groktari logged on and got invited to a 10 man ulduar
23:56.10Groktar:(
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