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00:02.53 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03StingerSoft * r2230 Locales/constants.ru.lua: ruRU update |
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00:25.33 | Yssaril | anyone know if its possible to import a table into the localization system with context? (so that the context fields populates automatically) |
00:26.34 | Zhinjio | hmm |
00:26.40 | Zhinjio | that would be a question for ckknight |
00:26.50 | Zhinjio | I've never tried. |
00:27.02 | Yssaril | who just happens to not be on /sigh |
00:28.04 | Yssaril | would be nice it it took something like this L['loc'] = 'loc somthing' -- context |
00:28.10 | Yssaril | it doesnt though |
00:28.34 | Yssaril | ohh well i'll figure it out some other time |
00:35.26 | Repo | 10libpendingheals-1-0 (experimental): 03Shadowed 07master * b969ddc LibPendingHeals-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Added a wipe of the debug map on zone change |
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01:46.53 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2231 TableRegister/loottables.en.lua: - Updated Emblem loot and added Heirloom |
01:47.10 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2232 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: - Updated Emblem loot and added Heirloom |
01:47.43 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2233 Menus/SetMenus.lua: - Added Heirloom set |
02:01.09 | Dashkal | ooo, hope that addition is tagged soon. |
02:04.56 | Funkeh` | lol, how is that addon still alive |
02:05.15 | Wobin | hey atlasloot is great |
02:05.31 | Wobin | much faster than fumbling with wowhead |
02:07.13 | Funkeh` | I would asume it's standalone now |
02:07.25 | Funkeh` | with the whole instance maps in northrend |
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02:12.39 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * v1.3.11-1-g6031919 / (22 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] finaly got around to rewriting this thing. |
02:36.52 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * v1.3.11-2-g35a180b / (11 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] fix localization system |
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02:46.30 | Wobin | Funkeh`: yeah, nothing mappy at all, just looty |
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03:02.28 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gnomishvendorshrinker/. GnomishVendorShrinker. Tekkub (Manager/Author). Approved by Tekkub. |
03:05.40 | Speeddymon | tekkub: on GVS, whenever it's finished i already have a feature request :-P |
03:05.49 | tekkub | DENIED |
03:05.57 | Speeddymon | lol * No support for split-stack purchases, Iâm not convinced itâs needed. |
03:06.10 | Speeddymon | i agree with you for the split stack purchases |
03:06.11 | Speeddymon | but |
03:06.13 | tekkub | I'm not, I only ever buy one item or a full stack |
03:06.26 | Speeddymon | it'd be nice to have it fill up incomplete stacks, like poisons |
03:06.32 | tekkub | or SYC handles buying the items for me |
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03:06.48 | tekkub | use StealYourCarbon :P |
03:06.53 | Speeddymon | ill check it out |
03:09.04 | Speeddymon | looks good installed now |
03:09.45 | tekkub | damnit... KAEL!!!!! |
03:09.50 | tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/addons/goodnewseveryone/ |
03:09.59 | tekkub | oh now it works |
03:10.01 | tekkub | fucker |
03:10.31 | Speeddymon | rofl |
03:11.34 | Repo | 10project-13766: 03Gruturistic * r48 core.lua: |
03:11.37 | Repo | Added most WotLK debuffs and their equivalence (Earth&Moon, Ebon Plague, Vindication, Infected Wounds), fixed Mangle display |
03:13.17 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/goodnewseveryone/. GoodNewsEveryone. Tekkub (Manager/Author). Approved by Tekkub. |
03:20.43 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: why dont you use the external ticket tracker url feature? |
03:20.51 | tekkub | effort? |
03:20.59 | tekkub | I didn't even know it was there |
03:21.04 | Arrowmaster | lol |
03:21.06 | tekkub | t'wasn't when I made my scripts |
03:21.16 | Arrowmaster | i think ckk added it specifically thinking of you |
03:21.33 | tekkub | noone tells me this shit! |
03:21.37 | Arrowmaster | haha |
03:21.47 | tekkub | well I'll add that next week when I do my builds |
03:21.52 | tekkub | almost done now |
03:23.09 | Arrowmaster | i added it to GNE just because i want to see what it does |
03:23.19 | tekkub | ^^ |
03:24.09 | Arrowmaster | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/goodnewseveryone.aspx |
03:24.19 | Arrowmaster | the text of the link sucks but it works |
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03:25.33 | Wobin | power auras is awesome for KM/Rime grouping |
03:26.13 | Arrowmaster | since when has curse had an evony wiki? |
03:26.30 | Arrowmaster | and why are there 0 results when i search it for 'queen' |
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03:29.59 | tekkub | Arrowmaster: uhm, whatever you changed didn't work |
03:30.07 | tekkub | it goes to the ace tickets, not mine |
03:30.18 | Arrowmaster | it works for me |
03:30.39 | tekkub | from curse |
03:30.45 | Arrowmaster | click the link |
03:31.19 | tekkub | lands at http://www.wowace.com/addons/goodnewseveryone/tickets/ :P |
03:31.44 | Arrowmaster | not for me |
03:32.12 | Arrowmaster | i get redirected to github |
03:32.50 | tekkub | hrm... go safari ad block |
03:33.04 | Arrowmaster | haha |
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03:40.03 | Repo | 10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r129 / (3 files in 2 directories): Baldrick: |
03:40.06 | Repo | - 3.2 quests added (some still not working correctly :( ) |
03:40.09 | Repo | - Baldrick now supports quests so that ones with targets are always sorted in first no matter how they are put in the module |
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03:47.12 | Mikk | Getting an addon off ace2 is becoming an increasingly good idea, seeing as how the number of people maintaining ace2 is ... small :> |
03:47.39 | Mikk | (re: earlier discussion) |
03:48.17 | Mikk | (damn, much earlier) |
03:48.40 | Torhal | Mikk: Those tranqs finally wore off, eh? |
03:48.51 | Mikk | i was watching Watchmen |
03:48.54 | Mikk | and doing dailies |
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03:53.47 | Repo | 10baggins: 03mikk * r424 Baggins-Filtering.lua: Major code reordering. No functionality changes. |
03:54.14 | Mikk | ph34rs those commits |
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04:38.49 | bluspacecow | ~wowalert |
04:38.50 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
04:39.14 | bluspacecow | ahhh thats why i have an empty breaking news box on login |
04:39.27 | bluspacecow | someone didnt set it to 404 ;) |
04:51.40 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r66 Modules/ (11 files in 11 directories): Data Update, untested |
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04:58.40 | eblume | @details goodnewseveryone |
04:58.48 | eblume | Or not :-D |
05:00.34 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r202 version: GatherMate_Data: Weekly update |
05:00.39 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.59 * r203 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update |
05:01.48 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz 042.2.10 * r67 : Data Update, untested |
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05:16.00 | Torhal | @describe goodnewseveryone |
05:16.01 | Repo | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/goodnewseveryone/. GoodNewsEveryone. I've invented a device that tells you when reactive abilities are available! |
05:16.12 | Torhal | eblume: ^^ |
05:16.45 | eblume | did I typo or does repo just not like me? |
05:16.48 | eblume | OH |
05:16.50 | eblume | describe |
05:16.52 | eblume | THanks :-D |
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05:48.00 | Arrowmaster | Mikk: by small you mean nonexistant? afaik i used to be the only person willing to do it and i dont play anymore so im not really going to put any effort into fixing stuff |
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06:55.52 | steev | woo |
06:55.59 | steev | we downed the beasts in 10 ToC |
06:56.13 | bluspacecow | gratszzzz |
06:56.16 | steev | plate bracers (tank) and plate belt (dps) dropped |
06:56.26 | steev | and i was the only plate wearer in the raid \o/ |
06:57.00 | bluspacecow | love it when that happens :) |
06:57.21 | bluspacecow | like the aq40 run and subsequent kara run where only mail healing gear dropped :) |
06:57.26 | steev | luckily they were both upgrades heh |
06:57.28 | steev | nice |
06:57.44 | steev | THEN i discovered (like 6 hours later) |
06:58.17 | steev | that the 58 emblems of conquest i spent on the t8.5 tanking chest... followed by the random amount of g for gems and the enchanting mats |
06:58.32 | steev | that i'd had the t8.5 tanking chest in my bag already... ungemmed and unenchanted |
06:58.54 | steev | ah well, ill just gem that one up differently |
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06:59.06 | bluspacecow | .... |
06:59.16 | steev | really wish they'd change the graphics of the different tier pieces |
06:59.19 | bluspacecow | make a frost resist set ! |
06:59.42 | steev | every piece of tier plate has the same f'n graphic |
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07:19.16 | Repo | 10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 07master * 788f3b2 / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] fixes the issue with InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory not actuallu opening the Category (and not even scrolling to it) |
07:19.26 | Repo | 10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 04v1.0.0 * a771c5f /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.0 |
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07:21.36 | Zhinjio | Yssaril: you figured out a way? |
07:22.12 | Yssaril | Zhinjio: yea works only outofcombat due to tain issues but its great otherwise |
07:22.36 | Zhinjio | awesome. |
07:23.46 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate/. InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory_Fix. yssaril (Manager/Author). Approved by Zhinjio. |
07:23.47 | Yssaril | yea got sick and tired of having to scroll down that list while debugging my addons (i tend to prefix them with Yss so they are at the bottom) |
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07:23.58 | Yssaril | wooot |
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07:34.10 | Shadowed | wow |
07:34.15 | Shadowed | and I though HealComm versioning stuff was bad |
07:35.03 | Shadowed | but DBM manages to send around 400-440 messages zoning into AV first |
07:35.16 | bluspacecow | O_O |
07:35.35 | Shadowed | one person sent about 20 versions with the same info :< |
07:35.37 | Shadowed | this makes me cry |
07:36.29 | bluspacecow | ow |
07:41.01 | Repo | 10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] fix toc and some small adjustment to the scroll code |
07:41.06 | Repo | 10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 04v1.0.1 * 69a7da1 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.1 |
07:41.24 | Yssaril | Shadowed: why arent you using bigwigs :P |
07:41.34 | Shadowed | I'm not using either |
07:41.37 | Shadowed | just looking at comm messages |
07:41.43 | Yssaril | ic ouch |
07:44.33 | bluspacecow | does big wigs have those comm message problems shadow ? |
07:44.42 | Shadowed | don't think so |
07:46.44 | Groktar | my mimiron's inferno couplings are gone |
07:46.46 | Groktar | oO |
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07:49.10 | Yssaril | night guys |
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07:52.06 | Arrowmaster | bigwigs does not |
07:52.22 | Arrowmaster | especially since it doesnt do anything at all in av, ever |
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08:01.06 | DragonWin | is there some event I need to listen for when trying to set SetRaidDifficulty(x) / SetLootMethod(y) / SetLootThreshold(z) right after each other. atm I'm seing strange results like the masterlooter being changed twice, loot quality being set wrong, and MasterLooter set to the wrong person. http://paste.wowace.com/973/ any1 that can have a look ? |
08:02.05 | orionshock | DragonWin: do u have addons like oRa2 or 3 installed? |
08:02.14 | DragonWin | no |
08:03.32 | DragonWin | currently activated addons are: Bugsack, bugGrapper, my own addon, ace2, ace3 Databroker, Dewdrop, rockconsole, Rockhook, pitbull (tried to disable that, no change), Prat, spew, wowlua |
08:06.04 | Torhal | "my own addon"... |
08:06.56 | DragonWin | hehe right now it only hit that function if I use a /slash command |
08:07.07 | DragonWin | and the code I use is executed in wowlua |
08:07.52 | DragonWin | the code I use for testing that is |
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08:19.14 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
08:21.06 | Torhal | grabs the trout and shoves it in Fisker's left ear. |
08:22.46 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2.1-6-g8b6232c / (5 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
08:22.49 | Repo | 8b6232c: - Restored the dummy debuf creation option to its old self and prevent a LUA error resulting of its use. |
08:22.52 | Repo | c85fd62: - Added an expiration feature to all dev versions (message displayed at each login and error reports disabled once the expiration date is reached) |
08:22.55 | Repo | 9f95e57: - ACtually found the real fix to false positive "Debuff late detection:" reports |
08:22.58 | Repo | f690e05: - Added an exception for the 'Dark Matter' debuff were no SPELL_AURA_APPLIED event is generated by the game... |
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08:32.27 | bluspacecow | pulls the trout out of Fisker's right ear |
08:35.39 | orionshock | lights Fisker on fire to cook trout |
08:36.22 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
08:36.23 | Fisker | slaps orionshock around a bit with a large trout |
08:36.42 | bluspacecow | :) |
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09:43.58 | orionshock | eh, one of u ace2 ppl, there is a problem with aceEvent 2 sending addons msgs to raid when opening loot... this could be contributing to the "you are not in raid / party" spam |
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09:55.23 | harl | sometimes when i inspect someone i get a message that "Someone-" currently isn't available ("Someone" being the name of the one i'm inspecting, followed by a "-"). |
09:55.55 | harl | does anyone have an idea where this may come from? |
09:57.55 | Fisker | slaps harl around a bit with a large trout |
09:58.07 | orionshock | harl: any addons that do talent stuff? |
09:58.29 | orionshock | the added - makes methink that it's a misbehaving talent scanner that thinks ur in a BG |
09:58.50 | harl | Talented, TipTacTalents, Karma |
09:59.08 | harl | yes, i thought so aswell |
10:00.25 | Fisker | i want to play game harl :)( |
10:00.26 | Fisker | :( |
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10:12.34 | harl | Fisker: :( |
10:12.41 | Fisker | :( |
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10:21.09 | Ironhand | slightly offtopic question, but this seems like a place where people might know: has anyone been able to get multisampling/antialiasing to work succesfully while running WoW under linux through WINE? |
10:21.24 | orionshock | i have |
10:21.31 | Ironhand | how did you do it? |
10:21.56 | orionshock | crossover games |
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10:23.26 | Ironhand | thanks, will have a look at that - hope they're still making the source available in addition to the payware version... |
10:23.49 | orionshock | nope |
10:24.01 | orionshock | but seriously, 30$ a year is worth the donation |
10:27.37 | Ironhand | guess I should try out the trial version - just have bad experiences with binary distributed versions of stuff |
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10:37.34 | yoshimo | isnt crossover games ripped from whine and should therefore be bound by the winelicense to have its sourcecode available or which license did they use? |
10:40.02 | orionshock | yoshimo: no, crossover is a fork and builds on wine |
10:40.13 | orionshock | that and crossover is wine's main contributor for material |
10:40.59 | orionshock | but seriously if your bitching for the 30-40$ a YEAR that acts more like a donation than a subscription.. your an idiot. support it, the world will be a better place ;) |
10:41.58 | yoshimo | i was just asking ;) |
10:42.05 | sacarasc | No, people making games for Linux would be better. |
10:43.16 | yoshimo | not enough people use linux for gaming sacarasc ;) |
10:43.35 | sacarasc | Because there are few games. |
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10:44.39 | yoshimo | not enough people play games on linux-> nobody produces native linuxgames-> only a few people play games using wine&crossover ;) |
10:44.45 | yoshimo | and so on |
10:45.02 | yoshimo | although i think there is an unrealtournament for linux |
10:45.25 | sacarasc | And recent id games. |
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10:49.55 | yoshimo | blizzard should revive their linuxclient found in the alphaversions ;) |
10:50.36 | sacarasc | Nah, they're all "fuck it, they have Wine/Cedega/Crossover, we don't need to do shit." |
10:50.42 | Ironhand | I think it's not so much actually making a linux client that's the problem, more the fact that they'd have to support it... |
10:50.43 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-3-0: 03xbeeps 07guid * r90 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Add targetlasttarget hook |
10:51.43 | yoshimo | ironhand, i think youre right. |
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10:54.54 | arcana | I'm surprised that make such a decent client for the mac. It runs great and doesn't use wine from what I can see. |
10:56.03 | Fisker | Blizzard should kill their mac client |
10:56.06 | arcana | Wine stuff tends to be a bit slow in comparison to native builds. Still they obviously thought about cross platform stuff when they designed it all so I don't see why they couldn't do a decent linux distro |
10:56.08 | Fisker | and only do windows clients |
10:56.11 | arcana | Why? |
10:56.30 | Megalon | you mean they should fisker the macclient? |
10:56.35 | Fisker | ^^ |
10:56.44 | Fisker | superdanielman is veeeery loud |
10:56.47 | Fisker | or was anyways |
10:56.56 | Fisker | arcana Mac is the cancer killing computing |
10:56.57 | Megalon | super rage man |
10:57.12 | Megalon | and Fisker is the cancer killing common sense |
10:57.15 | Fisker | naw |
10:57.22 | Ironhand | orionshock: I assume that if I were to buy cxgames, it would get me a binary package that I can install repeatedly on multiple systems? |
10:57.27 | Megalon | of corsair |
10:57.46 | Xinhuan | anyone knows any other addons that have the same functionality as oGlow? |
10:57.54 | Fisker | what does it do? |
10:58.15 | arcana | lol. I've been a PC programmer for... hrm... 20 years or so but I use a Mac now. Love it but let's not turn it in to a PC vs Mac thing. I was just saying that since the client is designed with portability in mind then a Linux version isn't an insane idea. |
10:58.16 | orionshock | Ironhand: not sure how many systems it'll let you activate the installs on |
10:58.18 | Fisker | otherwise blame haste |
10:58.42 | Fisker | they won't make it since they have to support it arcana |
11:03.47 | TNZe | arcana, all mac users I know are gay. |
11:03.54 | TNZe | gz on coming out of the cloest. |
11:07.09 | Fisker | >:3's TNZe |
11:08.34 | TNZe | whats that, teabagging? |
11:08.58 | Fisker | no |
11:08.59 | Fisker | lion |
11:09.15 | TNZe | looks like an attempt at teabagging |
11:09.25 | Fisker | it's not |
11:09.28 | Fisker | Megalon |
11:09.33 | Fisker | Flash > Berserker |
11:09.39 | Fisker | or Flash > ProxyBarrackser |
11:09.48 | Megalon | or |
11:09.54 | TNZe | that was funky starcraft indeed |
11:09.55 | Megalon | 31 tanks > 12 tanks |
11:10.02 | Fisker | :D |
11:10.19 | Fisker | and half of those were probably still being made |
11:11.14 | Megalon | super daniel trasnlat0r man |
11:11.26 | Fisker | :o |
11:11.34 | Megalon | translat0r :7 |
11:11.39 | Megalon | but i was hoping for bo7 |
11:11.43 | Megalon | a nice 3hours of tvt! |
11:12.20 | Fisker | lol |
11:13.59 | Fisker | and it's only 2 Megalon |
11:14.10 | Fisker | i was expected over 9000 hours |
11:14.20 | Fisker | expecting* |
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11:16.02 | Megalon | of which 4000 hours would have consisted only of the sound of sieging/unsieging tanks |
11:16.20 | Fisker | ^^ |
11:16.34 | Fisker | and the other 4000 hours would be "Battlecruiser operational" |
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11:20.09 | Fisker | but tomorrow is the day Megalon |
11:20.26 | Megalon | monday it shall be called |
11:20.33 | Fisker | no |
11:20.34 | Fisker | sc2day |
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11:22.07 | Megalon | play long and prosper! |
11:22.52 | Fisker | pretty annoying |
11:22.54 | Fisker | some jerk took my name |
11:23.11 | Fisker | so now i'm getting whispers from arena teams "LOL PWNT" etc. |
11:24.54 | robotusch | :3 |
11:25.49 | Fisker | hej robotusch |
11:25.54 | robotusch | hej Fusker |
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12:43.45 | Repo | 10mountaneer: 03Illiai * r6 mountaneer.lua: * added support for max option |
12:43.48 | Repo | * added proper loading |
12:43.50 | Repo | * added help (/mount help) |
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12:52.51 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: i didn't even know that. well, that kinda proves my point, eh. |
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12:56.26 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.12-11-g01b0cdd / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
12:56.29 | Repo | 01b0cdd: - updated german localization |
12:56.32 | Repo | b14dbbe: - updated english localization |
12:56.35 | Repo | ce7df9b: - localized messages from EmptyBlocks.lua |
12:58.10 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-3-0: 03xbeeps 07guid * r91 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Make it work with /targetlastfriend also |
12:59.00 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 041.13-beta1 * d0a1e02 /: [new tag] First beta for Fortress version 1.13 |
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13:01.08 | Repo | 10baggins: 03mikk * r425 Baggins-Filtering.lua: Fix error on opening bank introduced in last commit. |
13:06.00 | Groktar | ugh javascript is weird |
13:06.25 | Repo | 10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow * r131 QuestLogPatch.lua: Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
13:06.28 | Repo | - more fix for npc quest giver |
13:10.02 | Repo | 10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r145 BankItems.lua: |
13:10.05 | Repo | Added a checkbox to toggle displaying data from the opposite faction (affects both dropdowns and tooltips). |
13:11.38 | Groktar | spits on the evil javascript and wishes for C instead |
13:12.00 | Repo | 10project-13698: 03Borlox 07master * 1.1a-1-gbe46b7e locales/deDE.lua: [+1 commit] - changed deDE localization to use the wowace localization system |
13:14.41 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Dessa * r87 ZOMGBuffs.toc: kill additional LibBabble-Class-3.0 references |
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13:18.39 | Repo | 10project-13698: 03Borlox 07master * 1.1a-2-g0ccfe6f locales (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - changed rest of the locale files to use wowace localization |
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13:25.59 | Zeksie | thanks Dessa. Thought i got them all :) |
13:26.40 | Dessa | heh np :) |
13:30.42 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r88 ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: Set minLevel for reagent auto buying of Ankh. |
13:33.49 | Mikk | javascript is ... oddly nice. but a bit weird. |
13:33.51 | Mikk | imo |
13:34.11 | Mikk | you keep having to look up syntax for some things for a while |
13:34.22 | Mikk | table construction comes to mind |
13:34.58 | Groktar | well, basically i have a div with a bunch of elements in it, and i want to go through them one by one until i get to the last one, and then go back to the first |
13:35.38 | Groktar | and document.getElementById(id).lastChild == item never comes true |
13:35.39 | Groktar | :/ |
13:39.12 | Groktar | i guess i could just approach it differently |
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13:42.25 | Repo | 10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r146 BankItems.lua: |
13:42.28 | Repo | Items on the Auction House are now shown in the tooltip information. Note that this information can be inaccurate if these items are sold or expired. |
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13:48.35 | Repo | 10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r147 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update Interface and Version to 30200. |
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14:05.29 | digmouse | @describe bank-items |
14:05.30 | Repo | digmouse: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bank-items/. BankItems. View bank, inventory, mail, equipped and guild bank contents from any character anywhere! |
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15:04.11 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r102 Core.lua: fixing dynamic table creation... eats memory for breakfast |
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15:10.24 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont 041.2 beta3 * r146 : new lib-st |
15:10.34 | yoshimo | when i use the wowinstaller from the account page,is this wow already patched to the latest version? |
15:10.42 | praetoriaen | think not |
15:10.56 | praetoriaen | you need to get the patches yourself |
15:11.09 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont 04v1.2 beta3 * r147 : update libs |
15:11.22 | sacarasc | It does it to 3.0.1, I believe. |
15:11.39 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v1.2 beta3 * r103 : update libs |
15:12.19 | yoshimo | the only thing i need is the engbpatch.mpq from the data/en folder for the newest version... , dammit |
15:13.35 | praetoriaen | wowace is a funserver? |
15:13.50 | sacarasc | yoshimo: patch-enGB.MPQ? |
15:15.00 | yoshimo | yes, the only file on my german client the the patch&wowrepair are unable to fix . i dont want to reinstall wow completely |
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15:15.51 | sacarasc | Uploading it now, then. Might take an hour to do, though. |
15:16.21 | yoshimo | thank you ;) i wished i hate the same internetconnection as you :D |
15:16.29 | yoshimo | *i had |
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15:17.29 | yoshimo | wow.exe tells me that the dbcfile has the wrong amount of columns and repair exe sais its 100% correct :P |
15:18.42 | Groktar | zomg |
15:18.44 | Groktar | my javascript works |
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15:23.48 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r104 tags/v3.3: |
15:23.51 | Repo | messed up a tag on this project. this version has a memory leak fix. |
15:25.00 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v3.4 * r105 : |
15:25.03 | Repo | messed up a tag on this project. this version has a memory leak fix. |
15:25.12 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r106 tags/v3.3: whoops |
15:26.14 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont 04v1.2 beta4 * r148 : update libs |
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15:37.39 | Repo | 10youarentinapartyfix: 03Whitetooth * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): Initial Commit |
15:38.51 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys 04v1.5.1 * r325 : (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
15:38.54 | Repo | Tagging as v1.5.1: |
15:38.57 | Repo | - ruRU update. Thanks StingerSoft. |
15:39.00 | Repo | - zhTW update. Thanks a9012456. |
15:39.03 | Repo | - Added information for "Scroll of Enchant XXX". |
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15:44.51 | yoshimo | are there any other known addons than wim&lhc causing the "you arent in a party "spam? ;) |
15:45.51 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03LCF_HeLL * r5823 Coliseum/Beasts.lua: ruRU update |
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16:04.47 | Fisker | tomorrow is the big day Megalon |
16:04.51 | Fisker | also you Groktar |
16:04.57 | Fisker | and maybe even you nicoli_s |
16:13.25 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.13-beta1-1-gb43d049 EmptyBlocks.lua: [+1 commit] - fixed missing reference to localization in EmptyBlocks.lua (#37) |
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16:15.52 | Funkeh` | Fisker, waving your virginity goodbye? |
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16:22.08 | eblume | To the conversation yoshimo had probably hours and hours ago, the wow installer installes 3.0.1 but there is now a direct 3.0.1 - 3.2 (current) patch. So with a good connection, it shouldn't take more than a few hours to install WoW |
16:22.13 | eblume | took me 3. |
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16:23.55 | sacarasc | yoshimo: http://sacarasc.org/patch-enGB.MPQ |
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16:54.07 | yoshimo | if sacarascs file fixes my problem i wont need to use that eblume ;) |
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17:23.37 | Fisker | naw Funkeh` that's too late |
17:29.31 | Repo | 10malygosflamer: 03stolenlegacy * r33 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added Features: |
17:29.34 | Repo | - TOC push to indicate 3.2 compability |
17:29.37 | Repo | - Version checking was streamlined. It now looks better and produces less spam. |
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17:32.18 | Repo | 10professionbars: 03stolenlegacy * r31 / (2 files in 1 directory): - TOC push to indicate 3.2 compability |
17:32.24 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2.1-7-g4ad7eb8 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - Added an extra piece of data to the late debuff detection report and set expiration to 5 days instead of 10. |
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17:36.27 | Repo | 10professionbars: 03stolenlegacy * r32 ProfessionBars.lua: AddedAdded features: |
17:36.30 | Repo | - Prospecting bar now recognizes Titanium Ore as prospectable. |
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17:38.31 | harl | is there a way to increase the size of the tiny frame that shows all my raid IDs? (or an add-on that can save and list these in a more comfortable way) |
17:38.46 | Pneu^ | raidsavefu or whatever its called now, perhaps |
17:39.07 | Pneu^ | Sab |
17:39.08 | Pneu^ | er |
17:39.14 | Pneu^ | SavedInstances, i think |
17:39.59 | TNZe | What is the hotkey(s) (if any) to show how much netowrk traffic addons (beyond blizz default) is taking |
17:40.08 | TNZe | taking/using |
17:41.13 | TNZe | seems like my connection can handle 2 people in 10 man but not 2 people in 25 man |
17:41.26 | TNZe | and yes its that crap :P |
17:41.48 | taleden | i remember recount had some kind of network traffic monitor |
17:42.13 | taleden | dunno how accurate it was or if there's something lighter weight that can do it too |
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17:42.52 | Pneu^ | anyone know of a replacement for SkillsPlusFu which shows all your char's tradeskill cooldowns, is updated and maintained, and is either LDB or Fu? |
17:43.15 | harl | thanks, pneu^ |
17:44.25 | Pneu^ | TNZe: AddonSpamFu will show you SendAddon() traffic |
17:44.58 | Pneu^ | number of messages, and bytes sent/recieved |
17:47.11 | Zeksie | Pneu^: Broker_TradeCooldowns i believe |
17:47.12 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03Kemayo * r266 Mendeleev.lua: Default profile |
17:47.28 | Pneu^ | Zeksie: cheers, will take a look |
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17:54.33 | TNZe | Pneu^, I'll check that out |
17:54.43 | TNZe | its nearly impossible to play atm >_< |
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17:58.18 | Cruciformer | 'lo all. any of the curse web hackers in here by any chance? |
18:00.45 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.7.0_beta-1 * r1067 : Tagging as 1.7.0_beta-1 |
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18:08.00 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1068 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Added ranks 1-6 of Wound Poison to aura module |
18:08.21 | Repo | 10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * v3.4.1-3-g32a7457 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
18:08.24 | Repo | 32a7457: Option to use the value of a full stack instead of the current value |
18:08.27 | Repo | d076127: Remove AceConsole |
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18:11.07 | Groktar | who here knows why in javascript i can't assign an element to a global variable, assign that global variable to a local variable, and then pass the local variable in a function? |
18:11.10 | Groktar | :D |
18:13.25 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03Pettigrow * r267 locales/frFR.lua: frFR Update |
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18:18.54 | taleden | groktar: which part of that isn't working, exactly? |
18:19.45 | TNSe | I wonder when recount is going to add an "Absorb" tab. |
18:21.24 | Groktar | it says it's undefined when i try to pass the local variable |
18:24.10 | taleden | are you sure the global got the right value initially? are you sure the element still exists when you try to use it later? |
18:25.21 | Groktar | ya, the element is a div |
18:26.01 | taleden | does it work to skip the local step? just pass the global? |
18:26.01 | Groktar | and i just found my answer |
18:26.27 | Groktar | i was doing stuff with settimeout |
18:26.37 | Groktar | only works from the global scope :p |
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18:29.10 | Pneu^ | tekkub: the latest pushed version of teksloot errors |
18:29.28 | Pneu^ | teksLoot-3.2.0.6\teksLoot.lua:205: attempt to index local 'f' (a nil value) |
18:30.40 | Groktar | i spent like 3 hours reading about javascript objects and stuff |
18:31.00 | Groktar | figuring i was just missing something |
18:31.01 | Groktar | heh |
18:31.57 | stolenlegacy | @project Minimalist |
18:31.58 | Repo | stolenlegacy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/minimalist/. Minimalist. Game: WoW. grennon (Manager/Author). Updated: 250 days ago. Tickets: 2/2 |
18:32.03 | stolenlegacy | ~seen grennon |
18:32.06 | purl | grennon <n=jdawg@c-75-64-65-68.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 303d 15h 2m 30s ago, saying: 'alright, when you create a new libdatabroker object, what does the "value" property do?'. |
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18:32.10 | stolenlegacy | ooookay :D |
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18:35.34 | Repo | 10mountaneer: 03Illiai * r7 mountaneer.lua: * fixed extremely fast flying mounts |
18:35.37 | Repo | * added a nice message in case no mounts were found matching the query |
18:36.18 | stolenlegacy | @describe mountaneer |
18:36.19 | Repo | stolenlegacy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mountaneer/. mountaneer. Adds useful slashcommands for mounting, and more |
18:39.42 | Repo | 10baldrick: 03LordFarlander 041.6.130-beta * r130 : Tagging as 1.6.130-beta |
18:39.45 | stolenlegacy | üseen Illiai |
18:39.50 | stolenlegacy | ~seen Illiai |
18:39.51 | purl | illiai <n=chatzill@ip3e830243.speed.planet.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 640d 8h 11m 58s ago, saying: 'unfortunately, yes'. |
18:44.32 | Repo | 10project-13367: 03crashmstr * r39 / (5 files in 1 directory): ASSBlock: |
18:44.35 | Repo | - Rename to InviteBlock |
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18:51.45 | stolenlegacy | /stopcasting isn't working with channeled spells (e.g. mind flay) - what macro slash command would I use for those? |
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18:58.10 | Repo | 10project-13367: 03crashmstr 04v0.3.0 * r40 : InviteBlock: |
18:58.12 | Repo | - Commit changes to files / name of addon. |
18:58.52 | TNSe | släps stolenlegacy around a bit with a large 'ZIG'! |
18:59.00 | TNSe | You'd reroll to a class that doesn't rely on a channel for main nuke |
18:59.39 | thul | anyone up for something heroic? |
18:59.39 | thul | :-P |
18:59.51 | stolenlegacy | friend of mine asked |
18:59.55 | stolenlegacy | my main's a resto druid |
19:00.00 | TNSe | yes |
19:00.04 | TNSe | shadowpriests have been complaining about it |
19:00.07 | TNSe | for quite a while |
19:00.24 | TNSe | you lose a lot of dps because their main nuke is a channel |
19:00.36 | TNSe | and there is no macro support to make sure you can queue casts |
19:01.02 | TNSe | channels don't support queue |
19:01.07 | stolenlegacy | well |
19:01.25 | stolenlegacy | you might call whatever protected function stops casting via /dump |
19:01.36 | stolenlegacy | or was that fixed? |
19:01.38 | TNSe | and get banned :D |
19:01.50 | stolenlegacy | well, it's not my account :P |
19:02.22 | TNSe | luckily they'd rather ban people using /dump than people using teleport hacks |
19:03.23 | stolenlegacy | there are no working teleport hacks for live |
19:03.40 | stolenlegacy | warden checks for rapid changes in x- and y-coords and disconnects if those happen |
19:04.01 | stolenlegacy | only un-checked var is the z var - you can use coord hacks to go up and jump when you are at the desired height |
19:04.42 | stolenlegacy | thus tricking warden into believing you just jumped something along the line of 1000 yds |
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19:06.03 | TNSe | heh |
19:06.15 | TNSe | thats why I'm getting disconnected all the fucking time |
19:06.21 | TNSe | seriously |
19:06.24 | stolenlegacy | *cough*elementium solo farming in mc*cough* |
19:06.26 | TNSe | my connection is megacrap today |
19:06.37 | TNSe | and I'm getting dissed ALL the time |
19:07.05 | Pneu^ | elementium comes from BWL |
19:07.05 | TNSe | (packetloss out of control) |
19:07.16 | stolenlegacy | Pneu^: what i meant |
19:07.28 | TNSe | so I'm guessing every time I have OUTGOING packetloss |
19:07.36 | TNSe | it is kicking me for "teleport hack" |
19:08.01 | stolenlegacy | if you stand in front of the gate in the back of the first bosses room and jump quite a bit up through the roof by COMPLETELY legit means |
19:08.11 | stolenlegacy | you end up standing in front of the trash packs that drop elementium |
19:08.35 | stolenlegacy | and if you jump down by the same completely legit means after all the goblins are dead |
19:08.44 | stolenlegacy | the rest of the pack evades and the goblins respawn |
19:08.45 | stolenlegacy | ^^ |
19:11.01 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r326 TradeskillIdData.lua: |
19:11.05 | Repo | - (EXPERIMENTAL) Remove redundant information from vars.components array. |
19:11.07 | Repo | Use information from vars.specialcases and vars.combines arrays during |
19:11.10 | Repo | run-time to reduce duplicated information and memory usage. |
19:15.30 | Funkeh` | can anyone find the link on the wow website where it details the whole anti spam stuff |
19:15.46 | Funkeh` | Was like an entire page |
19:15.59 | Funkeh` | not a forum page, just na info page on the main site |
19:16.02 | Fisker | you mean effects on gold selling? |
19:16.10 | Funkeh` | I think that might have been it? |
19:16.14 | Fisker | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/faq/antigoldselling.html |
19:16.32 | Funkeh` | no, but it was a very similar page |
19:16.42 | Fisker | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/faq/squelch.html ? |
19:16.55 | Megalon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDBXbbUd0cw&rel=1 ? :( |
19:17.04 | Funkeh` | thanks Fisker |
19:17.23 | Fisker | it's what i do! |
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19:18.04 | Funkeh` | this is the line I wanted |
19:18.06 | Funkeh` | "You cannot report players that are on your friends list or in your guild, and you cannot report yourself." |
19:18.11 | Funkeh` | evidence |
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19:19.12 | Fisker | well you know Blizzard and keeping the site up2date :D |
19:21.05 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
19:21.48 | Funkeh` | omfg |
19:21.54 | Funkeh` | GM tickets still have a max char limit |
19:21.57 | Funkeh` | sigh |
19:25.28 | Repo | 10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * v3.4.1-5-g9fd4c85 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
19:25.33 | Repo | 9fd4c85: ctrl-right-click the broker to add the current item to the ignore list |
19:25.37 | Repo | 6e7c645: Color-code auction/vendor in the tooltip |
19:26.04 | sylvanaar | ComplainChat |
19:26.23 | Fisker | ^^ Funkeh` |
19:26.23 | Kemayo | tekkub: Thanks for the feedback, incidentally. :) |
19:26.36 | Fisker | but then given some peoples wall of text it's almost understandable |
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19:40.16 | stolenlegacy | wait a second - since when is Fisker actually giving useful answers instead of just trolling? |
19:40.17 | stolenlegacy | ~Fisker++ |
19:44.39 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r276 / (4 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 4 lines) |
19:44.42 | Repo | RaidBuffStatus: |
19:44.45 | Repo | - Fixed red buff numbers when there are none for you to buff. |
19:44.48 | Repo | - Added Death Knight Presence check. |
19:44.51 | Repo | - Features like durability check now no longer try to work in party as oRA2 does not seem to work in a party. |
19:45.08 | ckknight | stolenlegacy: he's been domesticated. |
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19:45.38 | stolenlegacy | lua> local a = "§"; local b = string.gsub(a, "§", "b"); print(b); |
19:45.38 | lua_bot | stolenlegacy: b |
19:47.19 | Fisker | btw ckknight |
19:47.20 | Fisker | 11 hours |
19:48.58 | robotusch | 12 |
19:49.21 | Fisker | 11 |
19:49.23 | Fisker | and 10 minutes |
19:50.09 | stolenlegacy | lua> local a = "'"; local b = string.gsub(a, "'", "b"); print(b); |
19:50.10 | lua_bot | stolenlegacy: b |
19:50.47 | robotusch | D:? |
19:50.50 | thul | loves Fisker |
19:50.52 | robotusch | that reminds me |
19:51.02 | robotusch | I wonder how many installs I have left on my winxp code xD |
19:51.37 | stolenlegacy | anyone knows a source I can get a stable RC of win 7 from? it is said that wow runs a whole lot more stable on it than on vista |
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19:54.32 | steev | stolenlegacy: thepiratebay ? |
19:54.51 | stolenlegacy | steev: probably :D |
19:56.14 | Megalon | how about |
19:56.15 | Megalon | http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/download.aspx |
19:57.18 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r277 tags/ (2 files in 2 directories): Renamed to correct name for a release. |
19:57.28 | steev | oh wow, still 4 days left to download the RC |
19:58.49 | Fisker | thepiratebay.org yarr |
19:59.02 | Megalon | thefiskerbay.fu |
20:00.28 | steev | although... it doesn't seem to work for me |
20:00.40 | steev | i clicky download now... and it just takes me back |
20:01.25 | steev | otoh, i have 4 different 64 bit keys now for the RC... |
20:02.33 | Fisker | OMG STEEV |
20:02.45 | Fisker | that's very important |
20:02.58 | Groktar | www.guild-impulse.net <- i spent all night adding annoying blinky shit |
20:03.00 | Groktar | hehe |
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20:03.45 | Fisker | cause it's easier to trout |
20:03.48 | Fisker | slaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout |
20:05.40 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10543375764&sid=1&pageNo=2#24 |
20:05.40 | Fisker | hoho |
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20:09.46 | TNSe | "Message: memory allocation error: block too big" |
20:09.49 | TNSe | wut? |
20:10.14 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r102 / (2 files in 1 directory): start working 3.0 (version check, algalon fail sync etc) |
20:10.17 | Repo | fix: !wipe on yogg clouds |
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20:18.32 | Fisker | it is over Groktar |
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20:19.13 | Bruners | do Death Pact consume Army of the dead? |
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20:20.35 | Repo | 10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.2 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] small scroll adjustment so that the selected addon tends to be towards the top of the list |
20:20.40 | Repo | 10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 04v1.0.2 * 15f4965 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.2 |
20:21.21 | Bruners | @describe interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate |
20:21.23 | Repo | Bruners: http://www.wowace.com/addons/interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate/. InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory_Fix. fixes the issue with InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory not actuallu opening the Category (and not even scrolling to it) |
20:21.30 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r192 / (13 files in 1 directory): correct achievement tracker weird behaviour |
20:21.33 | Repo | fix issue with quest tracker anchor that do not hide/show |
20:21.36 | Repo | fix raid mode |
20:21.39 | Repo | few other bug fixes |
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20:22.22 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou 043.2 beta5 * r193 : tag as 3.2 beta5 |
20:22.25 | Yssaril | bah could have sworn i fixed the typo in the description |
20:23.07 | Yssaril | ckknight: is there a way to import the context field in the localization system? |
20:25.13 | ckknight | not at this time. |
20:26.02 | Yssaril | ckknight: k would be sweet if it could do it like this L['somthing'] = something -- context |
20:26.12 | ckknight | yea |
20:26.14 | ckknight | do me a favor |
20:26.20 | ckknight | file a ticket and have people vote it up |
20:26.25 | ckknight | link it to me and I'll vote it up |
20:26.27 | Yssaril | kk |
20:26.47 | ckknight | as it stands, I'll be spending a bit less time than before on wowace/curseforge |
20:26.54 | ckknight | but not completely off it |
20:27.04 | ckknight | we're starting a new project which is taking a good bit of time |
20:27.12 | ckknight | post-BlizzCon I'll spend a few days hammering out issues |
20:27.29 | Repo | 10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.3 InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory_Fix.toc: [+1 commit] fix typo in the description |
20:27.34 | Repo | 10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 04v1.0.3 * a1cb27c /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.3 |
20:28.03 | Yssaril | ckknight: any hints on what this new project is? |
20:28.25 | ckknight | projects like it exist in the wild, but are shitty |
20:28.34 | ckknight | we want to come up with an actual, good solution |
20:28.43 | ckknight | and I believe that my input will be very useful in achieving that. |
20:28.45 | ckknight | it's MMO-related |
20:28.56 | Pneu^ | aion? |
20:29.05 | Pneu^ | sc maps? |
20:29.08 | ckknight | no, game-agnostic |
20:29.14 | Pneu^ | :o |
20:29.14 | ckknight | and sc2 maps is not a secret |
20:29.16 | ckknight | #sc2mapster |
20:29.20 | ckknight | and sc2mapster.com |
20:29.23 | ckknight | but I'd already done that |
20:29.32 | Arrowmaster | guild hosting? |
20:29.46 | Pneu^ | whos gonna rewrite the subscription system so it isnt a complete pile of ass then? :< |
20:29.52 | ckknight | Pneu^: I plan to |
20:30.15 | Groktar | o noes |
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20:30.48 | Groktar | i tried putting an onclick handler to make the blinky shit stop, but it doesn't work on flash |
20:31.04 | Groktar | so if someone tries to watch the flash video on my front page it will play like 3 seconds and then go to the next page |
20:31.05 | Groktar | lol |
20:31.16 | ckknight | gonna play GTA 4 |
20:31.18 | ckknight | first time evar |
20:31.19 | Yssaril | someone vote this up so ckknight fixes it http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1719-localization-doesnt-import-context/ |
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20:31.43 | ckknight | change "doesn't" to "should" |
20:31.48 | Pneu^ | do support. |
20:32.25 | Yssaril | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1719-localization-should-import-context/ :) <-- vote on this |
20:34.34 | Yssaril | ckknight: btw my addon breaks the http://www.wowace.com/addons/ page (due to long addon name) |
20:34.51 | ckknight | blah! |
20:35.05 | Xtek | hah |
20:35.08 | ckknight | I suppose I could fix that by inserting an invisible space into long words |
20:35.18 | ckknight | which would allow for breaking |
20:35.44 | Arrowmaster | there are css for wordwraping |
20:35.51 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: not like that. |
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20:35.56 | ckknight | it's underscore separated |
20:35.59 | ckknight | which treats it as a single word |
20:36.05 | Arrowmaster | yes there is |
20:36.16 | ckknight | in order to make it break to new lines, I'd need to insert invisible spaces |
20:36.24 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: not in the CSS 2 spec, CSS 3 yes. |
20:36.29 | Arrowmaster | theres a css for specifiying exactly which lets will wordwrap |
20:36.48 | Arrowmaster | s/lets/letters/ |
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20:40.44 | Axodious | you still need broker2fubar for some ldb mods right |
20:40.45 | Axodious | ? |
20:41.30 | Yssaril | Axodious: you mean fubar2broker? |
20:41.32 | Pneu^ | you need it for all ldb mods that dont also support fu |
20:46.24 | thul | seriously, I changed a random blue chest with hit-gem with the epic ebon blade exalted one, and lost like +60 hit :/ |
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20:48.31 | thul | fucking useless epic :-P |
20:52.07 | Fisker | :( ckknight |
20:52.11 | Fisker | i wanted to listen to music |
20:52.18 | Fisker | But then i found out i already were listening to music |
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20:55.37 | Fisker | om nom noms thul |
20:55.40 | Fisker | sup? |
20:58.17 | Bruners | Fisker: you should listen to better music then |
20:58.35 | Bruners | Fisker: like, lily allen |
20:58.49 | Fisker | naw Bruners |
20:58.56 | Zhinjio | ok |
20:59.20 | Zhinjio | if you were going to pick an avi codec that the majority of people are going to be able to do on their PCs, which would you pick? |
20:59.29 | Fisker | your mom |
20:59.37 | Zhinjio | and by "majority", I don't mean ... you all, I mean Fisker's Mom. |
20:59.41 | Arrowmaster | xvid |
20:59.48 | Fisker | and it's not a codec it's an container |
20:59.49 | Fisker | ooooh snap |
20:59.52 | Bruners | Zhinjio: follow scene rules |
20:59.54 | Arrowmaster | but why are you using avi? |
21:00.28 | Zhinjio | it was my assumption that was the best choice |
21:00.38 | Arrowmaster | 'best' how? |
21:00.47 | Zhinjio | from both a compression perspective as well as portability |
21:00.53 | Arrowmaster | not really |
21:00.58 | Bruners | http://pastebin.ca/1351025 |
21:01.47 | Gnarfoz | avi has not much to do with compression, and for portability, well, AVI is old and restrictive ;o |
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21:01.58 | Zhinjio | I'm certainly open to suggestions |
21:02.13 | Zhinjio | if my mom doesn't get her fix of baby movies soon, I'm gonna have to move closer to her |
21:02.34 | Arrowmaster | and by portability do you mean for playing on consoles, standalone dvd players, and portable crap like ipods |
21:02.40 | Zhinjio | PCs |
21:02.46 | Gnarfoz | well, depends. the probability of windows having WMV codecs is pretty high |
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21:03.21 | Gnarfoz | and even if not, they're the ones windows media player will certainly be able to fetch |
21:03.22 | Zhinjio | I don't believe much of my "target" audience (so to speak) uses macs |
21:03.43 | Arrowmaster | and how much of a concern is compression? |
21:03.51 | Zhinjio | quite a bit |
21:04.02 | Arrowmaster | i figured because you have very limited upload |
21:04.05 | Gnarfoz | grrrr, why does the damn "Objectives" frame keep showing up? I set it's alpha to 0 and checked the "disable mouse interaction" checkbox and each login it keeps showing up again. :[ |
21:04.14 | Zhinjio | well, more that they haev limited download |
21:04.17 | Zhinjio | some of them |
21:04.27 | Zhinjio | I'm not worried about my upload |
21:04.52 | Arrowmaster | do they have older computers? |
21:05.09 | Zhinjio | in some cases, yes. But I can assume at least XP |
21:05.29 | Arrowmaster | well cpu speed is a determining factor |
21:05.33 | Zhinjio | nods. |
21:05.46 | Zhinjio | if they're that old... there's not a whole lot I'm going to be able to do for them |
21:06.52 | Zhinjio | Bruners: does scene follow allow cropping as the name implies? |
21:07.06 | Zhinjio | follow scene, whatever |
21:07.41 | Arrowmaster | well h264 has one of the best compression right now but depending on resolution, playback on anything slower than a core 2 duo is probably going to be difficult |
21:07.53 | Zhinjio | oof. |
21:08.07 | srge | coreavc go |
21:08.12 | Zhinjio | hel, I don't don't even havethat |
21:08.40 | Arrowmaster | go with xvid then |
21:12.31 | Gnarfoz | Zhinjio: he was referring to the warez "Scene" rules, not some "scene following" technique |
21:12.48 | Zhinjio | alright |
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21:15.04 | Repo | No longer immediately checks the queue when a Query is issued to stop repeated requests from multiple mods based on events triggering the same query sequentially after each other. |
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21:19.16 | Zhinjio | I realize this is fairly off topic |
21:19.20 | Zhinjio | but anyway |
21:19.32 | Zhinjio | any recommendations on video editing software? |
21:19.40 | Pneu^ | sony vegas |
21:19.44 | Zhinjio | free or relatively cheap |
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21:20.31 | Pneu^ | windows movie maker then |
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21:23.02 | Zhinjio | vegas movie studio 9 ... $54.95 |
21:23.07 | Zhinjio | thats not utterly unreasonable. |
21:23.47 | Repo | 10hexmessage: 03stolenlegacy * r11 HexMessage.lua: Added features: |
21:23.52 | Repo | - The description of /hex on in the slash command text is now correct. |
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21:25.53 | Zhinjio | as usual, wikipedia is awesome. |
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21:40.44 | Pneu^ | Zhinjio: never tried movie studio, there might be a trial or something for it though |
21:40.59 | Pneu^ | may well be a stripped down vegas pro, so could be reasonable |
21:41.20 | Zhinjio | *nods* |
21:49.08 | Repo | 10libpendingheals-1-0 (experimental): 03Shadowed 07master * 02c8ba9 LibPendingHeals-1.0.lua: [+2 commits] |
21:49.11 | Repo | 02c8ba9: Added all of the comm data in, keeping the sending of it commented out for the time being so more testing on GUID detection can be done |
21:49.14 | Repo | 0a37973: DRUID: Added Tranquility and double checked other formulas accuracy |
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21:57.52 | Funkeh` | Mikk, I'm getting several reports now of people with more than 50 friends |
21:59.18 | Stanzilla | likks Funkeh` |
21:59.25 | Funkeh` | likk? |
21:59.31 | Stanzilla | ... |
22:00.07 | Funkeh` | pets Stanzilla |
22:03.08 | Megalon | more than 50 friends? |
22:03.11 | Megalon | OUTRAGEOUS |
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22:36.27 | Gnarfoz | ~seen nevcairiel |
22:36.28 | purl | nevcairiel <n=hleppkes@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 1h 58m 10s ago, saying: 'i never used it myself, i would rather use a set of functions to access the table if i need to act on modifications .. but it works fine'. |
22:37.03 | Gnarfoz | @description libpendingheals-1-0 |
22:37.11 | Gnarfoz | @describe libpendingheals-1-0 |
22:37.13 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libpendingheals-1-0/. LibPendingHeals-1.0. Pending heals library |
22:37.20 | Gnarfoz | awsum description |
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22:39.45 | Gnarfoz | so, the new multicast spells for shaman totems... are they just keybinds? |
22:41.59 | Megalon | they are actual spells |
22:49.07 | Gnarfoz | hm |
22:50.48 | Kemayo | Yeah -- my shaman bought the first spell, and that triggered the new totem bar showing up. |
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22:58.37 | Fisker | megal |
22:58.39 | Fisker | mega |
22:58.40 | Fisker | fu |
22:58.41 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
22:58.44 | Fisker | get megalon back in here |
22:59.14 | Gnarfoz | should I call his phone or go knock on his door? |
22:59.32 | Fisker | both |
22:59.35 | Fisker | at the same time |
22:59.39 | SunTsu | Gnarfoz: Knock on his door, using Fisker as the knocker |
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23:14.10 | Shadowed | I'll write a better one once I tag it as beta Gnarfoz :p |
23:14.27 | Gnarfoz | what are you writing it for at all? |
23:14.35 | Shadowed | better accuracy |
23:14.36 | Gnarfoz | because of no HoTs in LHC? |
23:14.44 | Shadowed | cleaner code in general and I can support more heals |
23:14.59 | Gnarfoz | and you expect it to get adopted? |
23:15.00 | Shadowed | LHC doesn't really have the mechanics to support hots/tranquility type of heals |
23:15.12 | Shadowed | maybe maybe not |
23:15.26 | Arrowmaster | and LHC uses names instead of guids |
23:15.30 | Shadowed | and that |
23:15.51 | Arrowmaster | all major unitframes are using guids internally now because they have to |
23:15.58 | Gnarfoz | ogles the LHC guid branch he thought he saw fly by |
23:16.01 | Arrowmaster | unless they want bugs |
23:16.19 | Shadowed | you do know the only reason that GUID branch is there is because of my work on LPH right? :P |
23:16.35 | Gnarfoz | no, why would I |
23:16.41 | Shadowed | you do know! |
23:16.43 | Shadowed | -k |
23:16.44 | Gnarfoz | and normally, I'd hope that it would be your branch |
23:16.49 | Shadowed | eh |
23:17.11 | Shadowed | LHCs comm code is too strict in general and you can't really move to GUIDs without rewriting it |
23:17.52 | Shadowed | I already messaged xbeeps again seeing if he wanted to move LPH as a new major of LHC and phase out 3.0, but since he never responded I'll just go with LPH + wrapper library |
23:18.20 | Gnarfoz | well, hm |
23:18.35 | Shadowed | have you looked at LHCs code thought? It's rather ugly :< |
23:18.48 | Shadowed | theres a bunch of unnecessary tables created and such |
23:18.49 | Gnarfoz | shrugs |
23:19.17 | Gnarfoz | that's a comment you hear from lots of people about other lots of people's code around here any day anyway ;> |
23:20.24 | Gnarfoz | hard to actually take it seriously anymore without looking at it yourself (and even then, now it suddenly depends on your own proficiency) |
23:21.31 | Gnarfoz | nevermind, just rambling, coming back from 2 weeks of no internet :P |
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23:21.41 | Shadowed | fun |
23:21.49 | ckknight | Shadowed: is LPH production-quality |
23:21.50 | ckknight | ? |
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23:22.14 | Shadowed | in a day or two, there's not much left to do but it can be tested at this point |
23:22.19 | ckknight | k |
23:22.30 | ckknight | when it is, I guess it'd probably be a good idea to upgrade the pitbulls |
23:22.35 | ckknight | so that it's in the hands of more people and all |
23:23.02 | Shadowed | yea was talking to Shefki about that a few days ago, need to write a wrapper library to convert HealComm data to LibPendingHeals-1.0 before it can start to be used by addons |
23:23.09 | ckknight | yea |
23:23.14 | Shadowed | but that's easy enough |
23:23.33 | ckknight | so it'd interpret but not send LHC data? |
23:24.30 | Shadowed | I'm not sure yet, I'm not a fan of sending two messages per heal to keep LHC in the loop but since LHC is going to be changed to send a name and a GUID message... it's not exactly much of a loss |
23:24.55 | Shadowed | probably make it on by default to send to LHC, but can be disabled if the author doesn't want it on |
23:25.34 | taleden | if you don't send data back to LHC, then won't anyone who switches (or uses unitframes/whatever that switched) become invisible to everyone who doesn't? that seems counterproductive |
23:26.00 | Shadowed | correct |
23:26.15 | Shadowed | but I still hate the idea of sending two messages per heal :p |
23:26.34 | taleden | yeah but you need a certain critical mass to get people to switch |
23:26.36 | Arrowmaster | i hate the idea of having two libraries that do the same thing |
23:26.45 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
23:26.48 | taleden | if one guy is the early adopter and suddenly his heals disappear from everyone else in the raid, they'll just make him switch back |
23:26.52 | Shadowed | it doesn't realy do the same thing |
23:26.56 | Shadowed | +l |
23:27.15 | Arrowmaster | if one is better than the other than the other needs to die |
23:27.36 | Shadowed | and I agree with you, I'm not embedding the wrapper library with LPH by default |
23:28.24 | Shadowed | but I have to be realistic, if healing data is exclusively shared with other LPH users then it's harder to get people to adopt. If it turns out that everyone starts to move to it, then I can abandon the wrapper library in 3.4 or 4.0 |
23:28.25 | taleden | but then imho any author that uses LPH and doesn't include the LHC wrapper, and enable sending data back to LHC, is shooting his users in the foot |
23:28.47 | taleden | I could understand making it possible for authors to put that choice on users, so if they know everyone in the raid uses LPH, they can t urn off the LHC compat and save a bit of bandwidth |
23:29.01 | Shadowed | it would just be a function call, so they could do whatever they want taleden |
23:29.03 | Shefki | You can simply install LHC if you want to send data to other LHC users. |
23:29.11 | Shefki | You don't have to use it to do the display. |
23:29.12 | Arrowmaster | it shouldnt be the authors choice but the users |
23:29.21 | taleden | agree arrowmaster |
23:29.23 | Shadowed | which, sending data? |
23:29.25 | Arrowmaster | yes |
23:29.29 | Shadowed | true, on the other hand then you have LHC and LPH both doing healing calculations isn't that efficient Shefki |
23:29.48 | taleden | which is back to the two libs doing the same thing problem |
23:29.49 | Shefki | Shadowed: Hopefully a temporarily problem though. |
23:29.52 | Shadowed | yea |
23:29.52 | taleden | if they're going to coexist that's unavoidable |
23:30.02 | Shadowed | it's just a case of, I don't know what the other authors are going to do |
23:30.28 | Shadowed | I plan on switching to it once it's stable, as does Shefki and the VuhDo author expressed interest in it too, and I'll likely write plugins for PR and maybe oUF |
23:31.06 | Shefki | I absolutely hate the named based situation that's the case with LHC. |
23:31.16 | Shadowed | so do I, but it's understandable |
23:31.26 | Shefki | Ohh I understand why it's the way it is. |
23:31.29 | Shefki | I just hate it. |
23:31.35 | Shefki | So if I can get rid of it I will. |
23:31.47 | Arrowmaster | imho best situation would just be to make your new library the new major version of LHC |
23:32.16 | Shadowed | it would, and I PMed xbeeps about that and even that if he didn't want to do it we should at least agree on a format that LPH and LHC-4.0 would share, but no response and he's definitely read it |
23:32.18 | taleden | the politics between those two authors seem to make that unlikely |
23:32.20 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: I don't think he can. |
23:32.45 | Shadowed | I was even nice and apologized for not talking to him in the first place! |
23:32.59 | taleden | LHC does some kind of preemptive version announce, right? |
23:33.02 | Shadowed | yea |
23:33.38 | Shadowed | it requests version data when you first login from GUILD/RAID (or party or battleground) and then from your group when you join one the first time |
23:33.45 | taleden | how hard would it be to have LPH automatically enable/disable LHC compat based on LHC's version announce? |
23:34.09 | Shefki | That would be terribly ironic. |
23:34.11 | taleden | initially you have to expect LPH will be the minority, or at best an even mix, so it needs to cooperate with LHC or it's kind of worthless |
23:34.25 | taleden | but that way if everyone in a group uses LPH, it can disable the LHC compat and save the bandwith |
23:34.27 | Shadowed | I was planning on doing that with the wrapper library, but I don't want it in the LPH core |
23:34.37 | taleden | fair enough |
23:34.47 | taleden | I guess I just can't see any reason any author would ever embed LPH without the wrapper |
23:34.57 | Shadowed | the idea of using the versioning data and smartly enabling/disabling is something I'll do, I didn't miss the irony Shefki :p |
23:34.58 | taleden | because doing that would screw any user who's in a group with an LHC user |
23:35.41 | Shadowed | taleden: cause in a perfect world unless xbeeps writes LHC-4.0 with perfect GUID detection and support for more types of heal, the wrapper won't be needed eventually |
23:35.48 | Shefki | I've never obsessed over people having it or not. |
23:35.52 | taleden | yes but it will be needed initially |
23:35.58 | taleden | so why not make it a default part of the initial release |
23:35.58 | Shefki | I wouldn't surprised if some of my healers in my guild don't have it. |
23:36.03 | taleden | if LPH takes over, then drop it in LPH-2 |
23:36.21 | Shadowed | if there's a LPH-2 then the design has failed horribly :p |
23:36.25 | Shefki | taleden: Frankly the compat should be up to users not authors. |
23:36.27 | taleden | LPH-1.1, whatever |
23:36.36 | Gnarfoz | that would need to get adopted, too |
23:36.40 | Shadowed | yea making it so it was just an addon the users grabbed also crossed my mind |
23:36.43 | Shadowed | but I look at it this way |
23:36.48 | taleden | shefki: if authors have such long discussions about this issue, can you expect users to understand why they need two libs for the same thing? |
23:36.56 | Gnarfoz | also, if you leave the choice up to users... nobody will care about turning off the LHC sending stuff |
23:36.59 | Shadowed | we have long discussions because we like to argue |
23:37.02 | Shadowed | and have nothing better to do |
23:37.02 | taleden | most of them won't get that, and will just say "hey suddenly I can't see half the raid's heals, your lib is broken" |
23:37.15 | Gnarfoz | ok, nobody... minus the handful of tech-savvy people who care. |
23:37.20 | Shadowed | yea, that's why I'm not making it a separate addon |
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23:37.34 | Shefki | taleden: What's difficult to understand. If you want to use LPH based addons and communicate with people using LHC you need the addon that makes that happen. |
23:37.47 | taleden | how often do users currently have to worry about what libs their addons use? |
23:37.59 | taleden | they'll install a new sUF or whatever and suddenly half the heals are gone |
23:38.11 | Shadowed | the LPH info will very clearly state that it's not compatibile with LHC syncs and if they want it to be then they have to grab the library |
23:38.28 | Shadowed | it's not going to be hidden, it's not going to be a "oh hey, suddently I'm not seeing LHC heals!" scenario unless the author specifically made that choice |
23:38.45 | Shadowed | (keeping in mind, that the user could still go grab the library himself and run it standalone) |
23:40.25 | Arrowmaster | imho just convincing enough addon authors to support it should be good, trying to add compat will just make things a pita from over complexiticy (like threat-1.0 with KLHTM compat) |
23:40.40 | Shadowed | yup, it also keeps the core library simpler too |
23:40.50 | taleden | but there's a risk of balkanizing the healers if authors don't uniformly support both during the transition |
23:41.00 | Shadowed | then that's the authors fault |
23:41.16 | taleden | i understand your argument, but i think in practice users won't see it that way |
23:41.18 | Shadowed | the author does nothing to support the wrapper library, it will literally be drop in and it runs |
23:41.32 | Shadowed | The best part about libraries? |
23:41.37 | Shadowed | the author gets the complaints not me |
23:41.53 | Shadowed | So if he decides not to embed the library they complain to them for their mistake :p |
23:42.16 | Shefki | That reminds me. xbeeps broke Nourish support... And I need to point him to the ticket I have. |
23:42.44 | Shadowed | how did Nourish support break? |
23:43.21 | Shefki | It's throwing an error about an invalid unit id but only when people cast Nourish. |
23:43.28 | Shefki | I can't reproduce it but whatever it's in the library. |
23:43.53 | Kilroo | clucks his tongue disapprovingly at DrDamage and Gathermate. |
23:44.00 | Shadowed | whats DrDamage going wrong? |
23:44.15 | Kilroo | Nothing. |
23:44.39 | Kilroo | At least as far as I know. |
23:44.49 | Shadowed | I wish we had an accurate way of telling time between users, would make hots a lot easier :< |
23:45.22 | Shefki | Go study up on how NTP works. |
23:45.27 | Shefki | Anything it does you can do. |
23:46.14 | Kilroo | I haven't actually played the game in quite a while. |
23:46.20 | Arrowmaster | lol NTP in wow, that would be funny |
23:46.27 | Shadowed | NTP is based on a master server isn't it? |
23:46.30 | Arrowmaster | no |
23:46.36 | Shadowed | well a mastery-server |
23:46.39 | Kilroo | I need to stop bothering to update my oUF layout unless it breaks. |
23:46.39 | Arrowmaster | no |
23:46.41 | Shefki | It's peers. |
23:46.57 | Shefki | You can set how athoritative a given peer is. |
23:47.01 | Kilroo | The modifications I make to oUF-Caellian in order to get it to suit me are too much hassle. |
23:47.30 | Kilroo | I had been trying to reapply them every time so I could see how the layout was evolving. |
23:47.33 | Shefki | Probably unnecessary complicated but if you want to find a way of dealing with latency and timing across a network NTP is where I'd start. |
23:47.50 | Shadowed | well, it's more a case of figuring out the time left on hots |
23:48.09 | Shefki | Should be able to just ask the game for it. |
23:48.15 | Shefki | It's not perfect but it'll be close enough. |
23:48.23 | Arrowmaster | NTP works by asking multiple servers their time and using the latancy to the server to determine a time difference then using the differences returned from multiple servers to make a guess at what the time is, unless you have a stratum1 server theres no guarenty that your time is perfectly correct but just as close as you can guess it is |
23:48.26 | Shadowed | game time is only accurate to the minute I though? |
23:48.54 | Shefki | I'm pretty sure hots are more accurate than that. |
23:49.01 | Shadowed | possibly |
23:49.06 | Shadowed | we need minute long hots |
23:49.08 | Shefki | I mean just ask for the expiration time. |
23:49.12 | Shefki | with UnitAura() |
23:49.21 | Shadowed | expiration time is in GetTime() which is different between clients |
23:49.22 | Shefki | You should be able to figure out which one is which. |
23:49.38 | Shefki | Or at least darn close. |
23:49.44 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: theres a trick where you can query the server time every frame until it changes and then create a time offset from your system clock so you have an idea of seconds in server time |
23:49.46 | Shefki | And if they're close enough to be hard to tell then it doesn't really matter. |
23:49.53 | Arrowmaster | but its not accurate for upto a minute after login |
23:50.06 | Shadowed | thats an interesting trick |
23:50.56 | Shadowed | maybe I should just tell people their raid has to reboot at the same time |
23:50.59 | Shadowed | think that will work? |
23:51.30 | Arrowmaster | you have to wait upto a minute after login though |
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23:51.40 | Arrowmaster | what if somebody gets DCd mid fight and relogs? |
23:51.47 | Shadowed | they have to wipe of course and reboot |
23:54.06 | Shadowed | Looks like auras are available when SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS fires in CLEU, probably easier to send the hots total duration and then make the client resync the end time once UNIT_AURA fires locally. Absolutely worse case it's 1s-2s off until UNIT_AURA fires |
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