IRC log for #wowace on 20090816

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00:02.53Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03StingerSoft * r2230 Locales/constants.ru.lua: ruRU update
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00:25.33Yssarilanyone know if its possible to import a table into the localization system with context? (so that the context fields populates automatically)
00:26.34Zhinjiohmm
00:26.40Zhinjiothat would be a question for ckknight
00:26.50ZhinjioI've never tried.
00:27.02Yssarilwho just happens to not be on /sigh
00:28.04Yssarilwould be nice it it took something like this L['loc'] = 'loc somthing' -- context
00:28.10Yssarilit doesnt though
00:28.34Yssarilohh well i'll figure it out some other time
00:35.26Repo10libpendingheals-1-0 (experimental): 03Shadowed 07master * b969ddc LibPendingHeals-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Added a wipe of the debug map on zone change
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01:46.53Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2231 TableRegister/loottables.en.lua: - Updated Emblem loot and added Heirloom
01:47.10Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2232 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: - Updated Emblem loot and added Heirloom
01:47.43Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2233 Menus/SetMenus.lua: - Added Heirloom set
02:01.09Dashkalooo, hope that addition is tagged soon.
02:04.56Funkeh`lol, how is that addon still alive
02:05.15Wobinhey atlasloot is great
02:05.31Wobinmuch faster than fumbling with wowhead
02:07.13Funkeh`I would asume it's standalone now
02:07.25Funkeh`with the whole instance maps in northrend
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02:12.39Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * v1.3.11-1-g6031919 / (22 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] finaly got around to rewriting this thing.
02:36.52Repo10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * v1.3.11-2-g35a180b / (11 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] fix localization system
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02:46.30WobinFunkeh`: yeah, nothing mappy at all, just looty
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03:02.28RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/gnomishvendorshrinker/. GnomishVendorShrinker. Tekkub (Manager/Author). Approved by Tekkub.
03:05.40Speeddymontekkub: on GVS, whenever it's finished i already have a feature request :-P
03:05.49tekkubDENIED
03:05.57Speeddymonlol    *  No support for split-stack purchases, I’m not convinced it’s needed.
03:06.10Speeddymoni agree with you for the split stack purchases
03:06.11Speeddymonbut
03:06.13tekkubI'm not, I only ever buy one item or a full stack
03:06.26Speeddymonit'd be nice to have it fill up incomplete stacks, like poisons
03:06.32tekkubor SYC handles buying the items for me
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03:06.48tekkubuse StealYourCarbon :P
03:06.53Speeddymonill check it out
03:09.04Speeddymonlooks good installed now
03:09.45tekkubdamnit... KAEL!!!!!
03:09.50tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/goodnewseveryone/
03:09.59tekkuboh now it works
03:10.01tekkubfucker
03:10.31Speeddymonrofl
03:11.34Repo10project-13766: 03Gruturistic * r48 core.lua:
03:11.37RepoAdded most WotLK debuffs and their equivalence (Earth&Moon, Ebon Plague, Vindication, Infected Wounds), fixed Mangle display
03:13.17RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/goodnewseveryone/. GoodNewsEveryone. Tekkub (Manager/Author). Approved by Tekkub.
03:20.43Arrowmastertekkub: why dont you use the external ticket tracker url feature?
03:20.51tekkubeffort?
03:20.59tekkubI didn't even know it was there
03:21.04Arrowmasterlol
03:21.06tekkubt'wasn't when I made my scripts
03:21.16Arrowmasteri think ckk added it specifically thinking of you
03:21.33tekkubnoone tells me this shit!
03:21.37Arrowmasterhaha
03:21.47tekkubwell I'll add that next week when I do my builds
03:21.52tekkubalmost done now
03:23.09Arrowmasteri added it to GNE just because i want to see what it does
03:23.19tekkub^^
03:24.09Arrowmasterhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/goodnewseveryone.aspx
03:24.19Arrowmasterthe text of the link sucks but it works
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03:25.33Wobinpower auras is awesome for KM/Rime grouping
03:26.13Arrowmastersince when has curse had an evony wiki?
03:26.30Arrowmasterand why are there 0 results when i search it for 'queen'
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03:29.59tekkubArrowmaster: uhm, whatever you changed didn't work
03:30.07tekkubit goes to the ace tickets, not mine
03:30.18Arrowmasterit works for me
03:30.39tekkubfrom curse
03:30.45Arrowmasterclick the link
03:31.19tekkublands at http://www.wowace.com/addons/goodnewseveryone/tickets/ :P
03:31.44Arrowmasternot for me
03:32.12Arrowmasteri get redirected to github
03:32.50tekkubhrm... go safari ad block
03:33.04Arrowmasterhaha
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03:40.03Repo10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r129 / (3 files in 2 directories): Baldrick:
03:40.06Repo- 3.2 quests added (some still not working correctly :( )
03:40.09Repo- Baldrick now supports quests so that ones with targets are always sorted in first no matter how they are put in the module
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03:47.12MikkGetting an addon off ace2 is becoming an increasingly good idea, seeing as how the number of people maintaining ace2 is ...  small :>
03:47.39Mikk(re: earlier discussion)
03:48.17Mikk(damn, much earlier)
03:48.40TorhalMikk: Those tranqs finally wore off, eh?
03:48.51Mikki was watching Watchmen
03:48.54Mikkand doing dailies
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03:53.47Repo10baggins: 03mikk * r424 Baggins-Filtering.lua: Major code reordering. No functionality changes.
03:54.14Mikkph34rs those commits
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04:38.49bluspacecow~wowalert
04:38.50purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
04:39.14bluspacecowahhh thats why i have an empty breaking news box on login
04:39.27bluspacecowsomeone didnt set it to 404 ;)
04:51.40Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r66 Modules/ (11 files in 11 directories): Data Update, untested
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04:58.40eblume@details goodnewseveryone
04:58.48eblumeOr not :-D
05:00.34Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r202 version: GatherMate_Data: Weekly update
05:00.39Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.59 * r203 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update
05:01.48Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz 042.2.10 * r67 : Data Update, untested
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05:16.00Torhal@describe goodnewseveryone
05:16.01RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/addons/goodnewseveryone/. GoodNewsEveryone. I've invented a device that tells you when reactive abilities are available!
05:16.12Torhaleblume: ^^
05:16.45eblumedid I typo or does repo just not like me?
05:16.48eblumeOH
05:16.50eblumedescribe
05:16.52eblumeTHanks :-D
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05:48.00ArrowmasterMikk: by small you mean nonexistant? afaik i used to be the only person willing to do it and i dont play anymore so im not really going to put any effort into fixing stuff
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06:55.52steevwoo
06:55.59steevwe downed the beasts in 10 ToC
06:56.13bluspacecowgratszzzz
06:56.16steevplate bracers (tank) and plate belt (dps) dropped
06:56.26steevand i was the only plate wearer in the raid \o/
06:57.00bluspacecowlove it when that happens :)
06:57.21bluspacecowlike the aq40 run and subsequent kara run where only mail healing gear dropped :)
06:57.26steevluckily they were both upgrades heh
06:57.28steevnice
06:57.44steevTHEN i discovered (like 6 hours later)
06:58.17steevthat the 58 emblems of conquest i spent on the t8.5 tanking chest... followed by the random amount of g for gems and the enchanting mats
06:58.32steevthat i'd had the t8.5 tanking chest in my bag already... ungemmed and unenchanted
06:58.54steevah well, ill just gem that one up differently
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06:59.06bluspacecow....
06:59.16steevreally wish they'd change the graphics of the different tier pieces
06:59.19bluspacecowmake a frost resist set !
06:59.42steevevery piece of tier plate has the same f'n graphic
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07:19.16Repo10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 07master * 788f3b2 / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] fixes the issue with InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory not actuallu opening the Category (and not even scrolling to it)
07:19.26Repo10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 04v1.0.0 * a771c5f /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.0
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07:21.36ZhinjioYssaril: you figured out a way?
07:22.12YssarilZhinjio: yea works only outofcombat due to tain issues but its great otherwise
07:22.36Zhinjioawesome.
07:23.46RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate/. InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory_Fix. yssaril (Manager/Author). Approved by Zhinjio.
07:23.47Yssarilyea got sick and tired of having to scroll down that list while debugging my addons (i tend to prefix them with Yss so they are at the bottom)
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07:23.58Yssarilwooot
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07:34.10Shadowedwow
07:34.15Shadowedand I though HealComm versioning stuff was bad
07:35.03Shadowedbut DBM manages to send around 400-440 messages zoning into AV first
07:35.16bluspacecowO_O
07:35.35Shadowedone person sent about 20 versions with the same info :<
07:35.37Shadowedthis makes me cry
07:36.29bluspacecowow
07:41.01Repo10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] fix toc and some small adjustment to the scroll code
07:41.06Repo10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 04v1.0.1 * 69a7da1 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.1
07:41.24YssarilShadowed: why arent you using bigwigs :P
07:41.34ShadowedI'm not using either
07:41.37Shadowedjust looking at comm messages
07:41.43Yssarilic ouch
07:44.33bluspacecowdoes big wigs have those comm message problems shadow ?
07:44.42Shadoweddon't think so
07:46.44Groktarmy mimiron's inferno couplings are gone
07:46.46GroktaroO
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07:49.10Yssarilnight guys
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07:52.06Arrowmasterbigwigs does not
07:52.22Arrowmasterespecially since it doesnt do anything at all in av, ever
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08:01.06DragonWinis there some event I need to listen for when trying to set SetRaidDifficulty(x) / SetLootMethod(y) / SetLootThreshold(z) right after each other. atm I'm seing strange results like the masterlooter being changed twice, loot quality being set wrong, and MasterLooter set to the wrong person.  http://paste.wowace.com/973/  any1 that can have a look ?
08:02.05orionshockDragonWin: do u have addons like oRa2 or 3 installed?
08:02.14DragonWinno
08:03.32DragonWincurrently activated addons are: Bugsack, bugGrapper, my own addon, ace2, ace3 Databroker, Dewdrop, rockconsole, Rockhook, pitbull (tried to disable that, no change), Prat, spew, wowlua
08:06.04Torhal"my own addon"...
08:06.56DragonWinhehe right now it only hit that function if I use a /slash command
08:07.07DragonWinand the code I use is executed in wowlua
08:07.52DragonWinthe code I use for testing that is
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08:21.06Torhalgrabs the trout and shoves it in Fisker's left ear.
08:22.46Repo10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2.1-6-g8b6232c / (5 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits]
08:22.49Repo8b6232c: - Restored the dummy debuf creation option to its old self and prevent a LUA error resulting of its use.
08:22.52Repoc85fd62: - Added an expiration feature to all dev versions (message displayed at each login and error reports disabled once the expiration date is reached)
08:22.55Repo9f95e57: - ACtually found the real fix to false positive "Debuff late detection:" reports
08:22.58Repof690e05: - Added an exception for the 'Dark Matter' debuff were no SPELL_AURA_APPLIED event is generated by the game...
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08:32.27bluspacecowpulls the trout out of Fisker's right ear
08:35.39orionshocklights Fisker on fire to cook trout
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08:36.23Fiskerslaps orionshock around a bit with a large trout
08:36.42bluspacecow:)
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09:43.58orionshockeh, one of u ace2 ppl, there is a problem with aceEvent 2 sending addons msgs to raid when opening loot... this could be contributing to the "you are not in raid / party" spam
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09:55.23harlsometimes when i inspect someone i get a message that "Someone-" currently isn't available ("Someone" being the name of the one i'm inspecting, followed by a "-").
09:55.55harldoes anyone have an idea where this may come from?
09:57.55Fiskerslaps harl around a bit with a large trout
09:58.07orionshockharl: any addons that do talent stuff?
09:58.29orionshockthe added - makes methink that it's a misbehaving talent scanner that thinks ur in a BG
09:58.50harlTalented, TipTacTalents, Karma
09:59.08harlyes, i thought so aswell
10:00.25Fiskeri want to play game harl :)(
10:00.26Fisker:(
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10:12.34harlFisker: :(
10:12.41Fisker:(
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10:21.09Ironhandslightly offtopic question, but this seems like a place where people might know: has anyone been able to get multisampling/antialiasing to work succesfully while running WoW under linux through WINE?
10:21.24orionshocki have
10:21.31Ironhandhow did you do it?
10:21.56orionshockcrossover games
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10:23.26Ironhandthanks, will have a look at that - hope they're still making the source available in addition to the payware version...
10:23.49orionshocknope
10:24.01orionshockbut seriously, 30$ a year is worth the donation
10:27.37Ironhandguess I should try out the trial version - just have bad experiences with binary distributed versions of stuff
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10:37.34yoshimoisnt crossover games ripped from whine and should therefore be bound by the winelicense to have its sourcecode available or which license did they use?
10:40.02orionshockyoshimo: no, crossover is a fork and builds on wine
10:40.13orionshockthat and crossover is wine's main contributor for material
10:40.59orionshockbut seriously if your bitching for the 30-40$ a YEAR that acts more like a donation than a subscription.. your an idiot. support it, the world will be a better place ;)
10:41.58yoshimoi was just asking ;)
10:42.05sacarascNo, people making games for Linux would be better.
10:43.16yoshimonot enough people use linux for gaming sacarasc ;)
10:43.35sacarascBecause there are few games.
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10:44.39yoshimonot enough people play games on linux-> nobody produces native linuxgames-> only a few people play games using wine&crossover ;)
10:44.45yoshimoand so on
10:45.02yoshimoalthough i think there is an unrealtournament for linux
10:45.25sacarascAnd recent id games.
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10:49.55yoshimoblizzard should revive their linuxclient found in the alphaversions ;)
10:50.36sacarascNah, they're all "fuck it, they have Wine/Cedega/Crossover, we don't need to do shit."
10:50.42IronhandI think it's not so much actually making a linux client that's the problem, more the fact that they'd have to support it...
10:50.43Repo10libhealcomm-3-0: 03xbeeps 07guid * r90 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Add targetlasttarget hook
10:51.43yoshimoironhand, i think youre right.
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10:54.54arcanaI'm surprised that make such a decent client for the mac.  It runs great and doesn't use wine from what I can see.
10:56.03FiskerBlizzard should kill their mac client
10:56.06arcanaWine stuff tends to be a bit slow in comparison to native builds.  Still they obviously thought about cross platform stuff when they designed it all so I don't see why they couldn't do a decent linux distro
10:56.08Fiskerand only do windows clients
10:56.11arcanaWhy?
10:56.30Megalonyou mean they should fisker the macclient?
10:56.35Fisker^^
10:56.44Fiskersuperdanielman is veeeery loud
10:56.47Fiskeror was anyways
10:56.56Fiskerarcana Mac is the cancer killing computing
10:56.57Megalonsuper rage man
10:57.12Megalonand Fisker is the cancer killing common sense
10:57.15Fiskernaw
10:57.22Ironhandorionshock: I assume that if I were to buy cxgames, it would get me a binary package that I can install repeatedly on multiple systems?
10:57.27Megalonof corsair
10:57.46Xinhuananyone knows any other addons that have the same functionality as oGlow?
10:57.54Fiskerwhat does it do?
10:58.15arcanalol.  I've been a PC programmer for... hrm... 20 years or so but I use a Mac now.  Love it but let's not turn it in to a PC vs Mac thing.  I was just saying that since the client is designed with portability in mind then a Linux version isn't an insane idea.
10:58.16orionshockIronhand: not sure how many systems it'll let you activate the installs on
10:58.18Fiskerotherwise blame haste
10:58.42Fiskerthey won't make it since they have to support it arcana
11:03.47TNZearcana, all mac users I know are gay.
11:03.54TNZegz on coming out of the cloest.
11:07.09Fisker>:3's TNZe
11:08.34TNZewhats that, teabagging?
11:08.58Fiskerno
11:08.59Fiskerlion
11:09.15TNZelooks like an attempt at teabagging
11:09.25Fiskerit's not
11:09.28FiskerMegalon
11:09.33FiskerFlash > Berserker
11:09.39Fiskeror Flash > ProxyBarrackser
11:09.48Megalonor
11:09.54TNZethat was funky starcraft indeed
11:09.55Megalon31 tanks > 12 tanks
11:10.02Fisker:D
11:10.19Fiskerand half of those were probably still being made
11:11.14Megalonsuper daniel trasnlat0r man
11:11.26Fisker:o
11:11.34Megalontranslat0r :7
11:11.39Megalonbut i was hoping for bo7
11:11.43Megalona nice 3hours of tvt!
11:12.20Fiskerlol
11:13.59Fiskerand it's only 2 Megalon
11:14.10Fiskeri was expected over 9000 hours
11:14.20Fiskerexpecting*
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11:16.02Megalonof which 4000 hours would have consisted only of the sound of sieging/unsieging tanks
11:16.20Fisker^^
11:16.34Fiskerand the other 4000 hours would be "Battlecruiser operational"
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11:20.09Fiskerbut tomorrow is the day Megalon
11:20.26Megalonmonday it shall be called
11:20.33Fiskerno
11:20.34Fiskersc2day
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11:22.07Megalonplay long and prosper!
11:22.52Fiskerpretty annoying
11:22.54Fiskersome jerk took my name
11:23.11Fiskerso now i'm getting whispers from arena teams "LOL PWNT" etc.
11:24.54robotusch:3
11:25.49Fiskerhej robotusch
11:25.54robotuschhej Fusker
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12:43.45Repo10mountaneer: 03Illiai * r6 mountaneer.lua: * added support for max option
12:43.48Repo* added proper loading
12:43.50Repo* added help (/mount help)
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12:52.51MikkArrowmaster: i didn't even know that. well, that kinda proves my point, eh.
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12:56.26Repo10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.12-11-g01b0cdd / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
12:56.29Repo01b0cdd: - updated german localization
12:56.32Repob14dbbe: - updated english localization
12:56.35Repoce7df9b: - localized messages from EmptyBlocks.lua
12:58.10Repo10libhealcomm-3-0: 03xbeeps 07guid * r91 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Make it work with /targetlastfriend also
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13:01.08Repo10baggins: 03mikk * r425 Baggins-Filtering.lua: Fix error on opening bank introduced in last commit.
13:06.00Groktarugh javascript is weird
13:06.25Repo10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow * r131 QuestLogPatch.lua: Cartographer_QuestInfo:
13:06.28Repo- more fix for npc quest giver
13:10.02Repo10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r145 BankItems.lua:
13:10.05RepoAdded a checkbox to toggle displaying data from the opposite faction (affects both dropdowns and tooltips).
13:11.38Groktarspits on the evil javascript and wishes for C instead
13:12.00Repo10project-13698: 03Borlox 07master * 1.1a-1-gbe46b7e locales/deDE.lua: [+1 commit] - changed deDE localization to use the wowace localization system
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13:18.39Repo10project-13698: 03Borlox 07master * 1.1a-2-g0ccfe6f locales (4 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - changed rest of the locale files to use wowace localization
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13:25.59Zeksiethanks Dessa. Thought i got them all :)
13:26.40Dessaheh np :)
13:30.42Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r88 ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: Set minLevel for reagent auto buying of Ankh.
13:33.49Mikkjavascript is ... oddly nice. but a bit weird.
13:33.51Mikkimo
13:34.11Mikkyou keep having to look up syntax for some things for a while
13:34.22Mikktable construction comes to mind
13:34.58Groktarwell, basically i have a div with a bunch of elements in it, and i want to go through them one by one until i get to the last one, and then go back to the first
13:35.38Groktarand document.getElementById(id).lastChild == item never comes true
13:35.39Groktar:/
13:39.12Groktari guess i could just approach it differently
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13:42.25Repo10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r146 BankItems.lua:
13:42.28RepoItems on the Auction House are now shown in the tooltip information. Note that this information can be inaccurate if these items are sold or expired.
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13:48.35Repo10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r147 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update Interface and Version to 30200.
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14:05.29digmouse@describe bank-items
14:05.30Repodigmouse: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bank-items/. BankItems. View bank, inventory, mail, equipped and guild bank contents from any character anywhere!
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15:04.11Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r102 Core.lua: fixing dynamic table creation...  eats memory for breakfast
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15:10.24Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont 041.2 beta3 * r146 : new lib-st
15:10.34yoshimowhen i use the wowinstaller from the account page,is this wow already patched to the latest version?
15:10.42praetoriaenthink not
15:10.56praetoriaenyou need to get the patches yourself
15:11.09Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont 04v1.2 beta3 * r147 : update libs
15:11.22sacarascIt does it to 3.0.1, I believe.
15:11.39Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v1.2 beta3 * r103 : update libs
15:12.19yoshimothe only thing i need is the engbpatch.mpq from the data/en folder for the newest version... , dammit
15:13.35praetoriaenwowace is a funserver?
15:13.50sacarascyoshimo: patch-enGB.MPQ?
15:15.00yoshimoyes, the only file on my german client the the patch&wowrepair are unable to fix . i dont want to reinstall wow completely
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15:15.51sacarascUploading it now, then. Might take an hour to do, though.
15:16.21yoshimothank you ;) i wished i hate the same internetconnection as you :D
15:16.29yoshimo*i had
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15:17.29yoshimowow.exe tells me that the dbcfile has the wrong amount of columns and repair exe sais its 100% correct :P
15:18.42Groktarzomg
15:18.44Groktarmy javascript works
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15:23.48Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r104 tags/v3.3:
15:23.51Repomessed up a tag on this project.    this version has a memory leak fix.
15:25.00Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v3.4 * r105 :
15:25.03Repomessed up a tag on this project.    this version has a memory leak fix.
15:25.12Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r106 tags/v3.3: whoops
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15:37.39Repo10youarentinapartyfix: 03Whitetooth * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): Initial Commit
15:38.51Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys 04v1.5.1 * r325 :  (Message trimmed by 3 lines)
15:38.54RepoTagging as v1.5.1:
15:38.57Repo- ruRU update. Thanks StingerSoft.
15:39.00Repo- zhTW update. Thanks a9012456.
15:39.03Repo- Added information for "Scroll of Enchant XXX".
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15:44.51yoshimoare there any other known addons than wim&lhc causing the "you arent in a party "spam? ;)
15:45.51Repo10big-wigs: 03LCF_HeLL * r5823 Coliseum/Beasts.lua: ruRU update
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16:04.47Fiskertomorrow is the big day Megalon
16:04.51Fiskeralso you Groktar
16:04.57Fiskerand maybe even you nicoli_s
16:13.25Repo10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.13-beta1-1-gb43d049 EmptyBlocks.lua: [+1 commit] - fixed missing reference to localization in EmptyBlocks.lua (#37)
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16:22.08eblumeTo the conversation yoshimo had probably hours and hours ago, the wow installer installes 3.0.1 but there is now a direct 3.0.1 - 3.2 (current) patch. So with a good connection, it shouldn't take more than a few hours to install WoW
16:22.13eblumetook me 3.
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16:23.55sacarascyoshimo: http://sacarasc.org/patch-enGB.MPQ
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16:54.07yoshimoif sacarascs file fixes my problem i wont need to use that eblume ;)
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17:29.31Repo10malygosflamer: 03stolenlegacy * r33 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added Features:
17:29.34Repo- TOC push to indicate 3.2 compability
17:29.37Repo- Version checking was streamlined. It now looks better and produces less spam.
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17:32.24Repo10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2.1-7-g4ad7eb8 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - Added an extra piece of data to the late debuff detection report and set expiration to 5 days instead of 10.
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17:36.27Repo10professionbars: 03stolenlegacy * r32 ProfessionBars.lua: AddedAdded features:
17:36.30Repo- Prospecting bar now recognizes Titanium Ore as prospectable.
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17:38.31harlis there a way to increase the size of the tiny frame that shows all my raid IDs? (or an add-on that can save and list these in a more comfortable way)
17:38.46Pneu^raidsavefu or whatever its called now, perhaps
17:39.07Pneu^Sab
17:39.08Pneu^er
17:39.14Pneu^SavedInstances, i think
17:39.59TNZeWhat is the hotkey(s) (if any) to show how much netowrk traffic addons (beyond blizz default) is taking
17:40.08TNZetaking/using
17:41.13TNZeseems like my connection can handle 2 people in 10 man but not 2 people in 25 man
17:41.26TNZeand yes its that crap :P
17:41.48taledeni remember recount had some kind of network traffic monitor
17:42.13taledendunno how accurate it was or if there's something lighter weight that can do it too
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17:42.52Pneu^anyone know of a replacement for SkillsPlusFu which shows all your char's tradeskill cooldowns, is updated and maintained, and is either LDB or Fu?
17:43.15harlthanks, pneu^
17:44.25Pneu^TNZe: AddonSpamFu will show you SendAddon() traffic
17:44.58Pneu^number of messages, and bytes sent/recieved
17:47.11ZeksiePneu^: Broker_TradeCooldowns i believe
17:47.12Repo10mendeleev: 03Kemayo * r266 Mendeleev.lua: Default profile
17:47.28Pneu^Zeksie: cheers, will take a look
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17:54.33TNZePneu^, I'll check that out
17:54.43TNZeits nearly impossible to play atm >_<
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17:58.18Cruciformer'lo all. any of the curse web hackers in here by any chance?
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18:08.00Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1068 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Added ranks 1-6 of Wound Poison to aura module
18:08.21Repo10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * v3.4.1-3-g32a7457 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
18:08.24Repo32a7457: Option to use the value of a full stack instead of the current value
18:08.27Repod076127: Remove AceConsole
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18:11.07Groktarwho here knows why in javascript i can't assign an element to a global variable, assign that global variable to a local variable, and then pass the local variable in a function?
18:11.10Groktar:D
18:13.25Repo10mendeleev: 03Pettigrow * r267 locales/frFR.lua: frFR Update
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18:18.54taledengroktar: which part of that isn't working, exactly?
18:19.45TNSeI wonder when recount is going to add an "Absorb" tab.
18:21.24Groktarit says it's undefined when i try to pass the local variable
18:24.10taledenare you sure the global got the right value initially? are you sure the element still exists when you try to use it later?
18:25.21Groktarya, the element is a div
18:26.01taledendoes it work to skip the local step? just pass the global?
18:26.01Groktarand i just found my answer
18:26.27Groktari was doing stuff with settimeout
18:26.37Groktaronly works from the global scope :p
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18:29.10Pneu^tekkub: the latest pushed version of teksloot errors
18:29.28Pneu^teksLoot-3.2.0.6\teksLoot.lua:205: attempt to index local 'f' (a nil value)
18:30.40Groktari spent like 3 hours reading about javascript objects and stuff
18:31.00Groktarfiguring i was just missing something
18:31.01Groktarheh
18:31.57stolenlegacy@project Minimalist
18:31.58Repostolenlegacy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/minimalist/. Minimalist. Game: WoW. grennon (Manager/Author). Updated: 250 days ago. Tickets: 2/2
18:32.03stolenlegacy~seen grennon
18:32.06purlgrennon <n=jdawg@c-75-64-65-68.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 303d 15h 2m 30s ago, saying: 'alright, when you create a new libdatabroker object, what does the "value" property do?'.
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18:32.10stolenlegacyooookay :D
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18:35.34Repo10mountaneer: 03Illiai * r7 mountaneer.lua: * fixed extremely fast flying mounts
18:35.37Repo* added a nice message in case no mounts were found matching the query
18:36.18stolenlegacy@describe mountaneer
18:36.19Repostolenlegacy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mountaneer/. mountaneer. Adds useful slashcommands for mounting, and more
18:39.42Repo10baldrick: 03LordFarlander 041.6.130-beta * r130 : Tagging as 1.6.130-beta
18:39.45stolenlegacyüseen Illiai
18:39.50stolenlegacy~seen Illiai
18:39.51purlilliai <n=chatzill@ip3e830243.speed.planet.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 640d 8h 11m 58s ago, saying: 'unfortunately, yes'.
18:44.32Repo10project-13367: 03crashmstr * r39 / (5 files in 1 directory): ASSBlock:
18:44.35Repo- Rename to InviteBlock
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18:51.45stolenlegacy/stopcasting isn't working with channeled spells (e.g. mind flay) - what macro slash command would I use for those?
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18:58.10Repo10project-13367: 03crashmstr 04v0.3.0 * r40 : InviteBlock:
18:58.12Repo- Commit changes to files / name of addon.
18:58.52TNSesläps stolenlegacy around a bit with a large 'ZIG'!
18:59.00TNSeYou'd reroll to a class that doesn't rely on a channel for main nuke
18:59.39thulanyone up for something heroic?
18:59.39thul:-P
18:59.51stolenlegacyfriend of mine asked
18:59.55stolenlegacymy main's a resto druid
19:00.00TNSeyes
19:00.04TNSeshadowpriests have been complaining about it
19:00.07TNSefor quite a while
19:00.24TNSeyou lose a lot of dps because their main nuke is a channel
19:00.36TNSeand there is no macro support to make sure you can queue casts
19:01.02TNSechannels don't support queue
19:01.07stolenlegacywell
19:01.25stolenlegacyyou might call whatever protected function stops casting via /dump
19:01.36stolenlegacyor was that fixed?
19:01.38TNSeand get banned :D
19:01.50stolenlegacywell, it's not my account :P
19:02.22TNSeluckily they'd rather ban people using /dump than people using teleport hacks
19:03.23stolenlegacythere are no working teleport hacks for live
19:03.40stolenlegacywarden checks for rapid changes in x- and y-coords and disconnects if those happen
19:04.01stolenlegacyonly un-checked var is the z var - you can use coord hacks to go up and jump when you are at the desired height
19:04.42stolenlegacythus tricking warden into believing you just jumped something along the line of 1000 yds
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19:06.03TNSeheh
19:06.15TNSethats why I'm getting disconnected all the fucking time
19:06.21TNSeseriously
19:06.24stolenlegacy*cough*elementium solo farming in mc*cough*
19:06.26TNSemy connection is megacrap today
19:06.37TNSeand I'm getting dissed ALL the time
19:07.05Pneu^elementium comes from BWL
19:07.05TNSe(packetloss out of control)
19:07.16stolenlegacyPneu^: what i meant
19:07.28TNSeso I'm guessing every time I have OUTGOING packetloss
19:07.36TNSeit is kicking me for "teleport hack"
19:08.01stolenlegacyif you stand in front of the gate in the back of the first bosses room and jump quite a bit up through the roof by COMPLETELY legit means
19:08.11stolenlegacyyou end up standing in front of the trash packs that drop elementium
19:08.35stolenlegacyand if you jump down by the same completely legit means after all the goblins are dead
19:08.44stolenlegacythe rest of the pack evades and the goblins respawn
19:08.45stolenlegacy^^
19:11.01Repo10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r326 TradeskillIdData.lua:
19:11.05Repo- (EXPERIMENTAL) Remove redundant information from vars.components array.
19:11.07RepoUse information from vars.specialcases and vars.combines arrays during
19:11.10Reporun-time to reduce duplicated information and memory usage.
19:15.30Funkeh`can anyone find the link on the wow website where it details the whole anti spam stuff
19:15.46Funkeh`Was like an entire page
19:15.59Funkeh`not a forum page, just na info page on the main site
19:16.02Fiskeryou mean effects on gold selling?
19:16.10Funkeh`I think that might have been it?
19:16.14Fiskerhttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/faq/antigoldselling.html
19:16.32Funkeh`no, but it was a very similar page
19:16.42Fiskerhttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/faq/squelch.html ?
19:16.55Megalonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDBXbbUd0cw&rel=1 ? :(
19:17.04Funkeh`thanks Fisker
19:17.23Fiskerit's what i do!
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19:18.04Funkeh`this is the line I wanted
19:18.06Funkeh`"You cannot report players that are on your friends list or in your guild, and you cannot report yourself."
19:18.11Funkeh`evidence
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19:19.12Fiskerwell you know Blizzard and keeping the site up2date :D
19:21.05sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
19:21.48Funkeh`omfg
19:21.54Funkeh`GM tickets still have a max char limit
19:21.57Funkeh`sigh
19:25.28Repo10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * v3.4.1-5-g9fd4c85 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
19:25.33Repo9fd4c85: ctrl-right-click the broker to add the current item to the ignore list
19:25.37Repo6e7c645: Color-code auction/vendor in the tooltip
19:26.04sylvanaarComplainChat
19:26.23Fisker^^ Funkeh`
19:26.23Kemayotekkub: Thanks for the feedback, incidentally. :)
19:26.36Fiskerbut then given some peoples wall of text it's almost understandable
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19:40.16stolenlegacywait a second - since when is Fisker actually giving useful answers instead of just trolling?
19:40.17stolenlegacy~Fisker++
19:44.39Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r276 / (4 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 4 lines)
19:44.42RepoRaidBuffStatus:
19:44.45Repo- Fixed red buff numbers when there are none for you to buff.
19:44.48Repo- Added Death Knight Presence check.
19:44.51Repo- Features like durability check now no longer try to work in party as oRA2 does not seem to work in a party.
19:45.08ckknightstolenlegacy: he's been domesticated.
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19:45.38stolenlegacylua> local a = "§"; local b = string.gsub(a, "§", "b"); print(b);
19:45.38lua_botstolenlegacy: b
19:47.19Fiskerbtw ckknight
19:47.20Fisker11 hours
19:48.58robotusch12
19:49.21Fisker11
19:49.23Fiskerand 10 minutes
19:50.09stolenlegacylua> local a = "'"; local b = string.gsub(a, "'", "b"); print(b);
19:50.10lua_botstolenlegacy: b
19:50.47robotuschD:?
19:50.50thulloves Fisker
19:50.52robotuschthat reminds me
19:51.02robotuschI wonder how many installs I have left on my winxp code xD
19:51.37stolenlegacyanyone knows a source I can get a stable RC of win 7 from? it is said that wow runs a whole lot more stable on it than on vista
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19:54.32steevstolenlegacy: thepiratebay ?
19:54.51stolenlegacysteev: probably :D
19:56.14Megalonhow about
19:56.15Megalonhttp://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/download.aspx
19:57.18Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r277 tags/ (2 files in 2 directories): Renamed to correct name for a release.
19:57.28steevoh wow, still 4 days left to download the RC
19:58.49Fiskerthepiratebay.org yarr
19:59.02Megalonthefiskerbay.fu
20:00.28steevalthough... it doesn't seem to work for me
20:00.40steevi clicky download now... and it just takes me back
20:01.25steevotoh, i have 4 different 64 bit keys now for the RC...
20:02.33FiskerOMG STEEV
20:02.45Fiskerthat's very important
20:02.58Groktarwww.guild-impulse.net <- i spent all night adding annoying blinky shit
20:03.00Groktarhehe
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20:03.45Fiskercause it's easier to trout
20:03.48Fiskerslaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout
20:05.40Fiskerhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10543375764&sid=1&pageNo=2#24
20:05.40Fiskerhoho
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20:09.46TNSe"Message: memory allocation error: block too big"
20:09.49TNSewut?
20:10.14Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r102 / (2 files in 1 directory): start working 3.0 (version check, algalon fail sync etc)
20:10.17Repofix: !wipe on yogg clouds
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20:18.32Fiskerit is over Groktar
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20:19.13Brunersdo Death Pact consume Army of the dead?
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20:20.35Repo10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.2 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] small scroll adjustment so that the selected addon tends to be towards the top of the list
20:20.40Repo10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 04v1.0.2 * 15f4965 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.2
20:21.21Bruners@describe interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate
20:21.23RepoBruners: http://www.wowace.com/addons/interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate/. InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory_Fix. fixes the issue with InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory not actuallu opening the Category (and not even scrolling to it)
20:21.30Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r192 / (13 files in 1 directory): correct achievement tracker weird behaviour
20:21.33Repofix issue with quest tracker anchor that do not hide/show
20:21.36Repofix raid mode
20:21.39Repofew other bug fixes
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20:22.22Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou 043.2 beta5 * r193 : tag as 3.2 beta5
20:22.25Yssarilbah could have sworn i fixed the typo in the description
20:23.07Yssarilckknight: is there a way to import the context field in the localization system?
20:25.13ckknightnot at this time.
20:26.02Yssarilckknight: k would be sweet if it could do it like this L['somthing'] = something -- context
20:26.12ckknightyea
20:26.14ckknightdo me a favor
20:26.20ckknightfile a ticket and have people vote it up
20:26.25ckknightlink it to me and I'll vote it up
20:26.27Yssarilkk
20:26.47ckknightas it stands, I'll be spending a bit less time than before on wowace/curseforge
20:26.54ckknightbut not completely off it
20:27.04ckknightwe're starting a new project which is taking a good bit of time
20:27.12ckknightpost-BlizzCon I'll spend a few days hammering out issues
20:27.29Repo10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.3 InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory_Fix.toc: [+1 commit] fix typo in the description
20:27.34Repo10interfaceoptionsframe_opentocate: 03yssaril 04v1.0.3 * a1cb27c /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.3
20:28.03Yssarilckknight: any hints on what this new project is?
20:28.25ckknightprojects like it exist in the wild, but are shitty
20:28.34ckknightwe want to come up with an actual, good solution
20:28.43ckknightand I believe that my input will be very useful in achieving that.
20:28.45ckknightit's MMO-related
20:28.56Pneu^aion?
20:29.05Pneu^sc maps?
20:29.08ckknightno, game-agnostic
20:29.14Pneu^:o
20:29.14ckknightand sc2 maps is not a secret
20:29.16ckknight#sc2mapster
20:29.20ckknightand sc2mapster.com
20:29.23ckknightbut I'd already done that
20:29.32Arrowmasterguild hosting?
20:29.46Pneu^whos gonna rewrite the subscription system so it isnt a complete pile of ass then? :<
20:29.52ckknightPneu^: I plan to
20:30.15Groktaro noes
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20:30.48Groktari tried putting an onclick handler to make the blinky shit stop, but it doesn't work on flash
20:31.04Groktarso if someone tries to watch the flash video on my front page it will play like 3 seconds and then go to the next page
20:31.05Groktarlol
20:31.16ckknightgonna play GTA 4
20:31.18ckknightfirst time evar
20:31.19Yssarilsomeone vote this up so ckknight fixes it http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1719-localization-doesnt-import-context/
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20:31.43ckknightchange "doesn't" to "should"
20:31.48Pneu^do support.
20:32.25Yssarilhttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1719-localization-should-import-context/ :) <-- vote on this
20:34.34Yssarilckknight: btw my addon breaks the http://www.wowace.com/addons/ page (due to long addon name)
20:34.51ckknightblah!
20:35.05Xtekhah
20:35.08ckknightI suppose I could fix that by inserting an invisible space into long words
20:35.18ckknightwhich would allow for breaking
20:35.44Arrowmasterthere are css for wordwraping
20:35.51ckknightArrowmaster: not like that.
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20:35.56ckknightit's underscore separated
20:35.59ckknightwhich treats it as a single word
20:36.05Arrowmasteryes there is
20:36.16ckknightin order to make it break to new lines, I'd need to insert invisible spaces
20:36.24ckknightArrowmaster: not in the CSS 2 spec, CSS 3 yes.
20:36.29Arrowmastertheres a css for specifiying exactly which lets will wordwrap
20:36.48Arrowmasters/lets/letters/
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20:40.44Axodiousyou still need broker2fubar for some ldb mods right
20:40.45Axodious?
20:41.30YssarilAxodious: you mean fubar2broker?
20:41.32Pneu^you need it for all ldb mods that dont also support fu
20:46.24thulseriously, I changed a random blue chest with hit-gem with the epic ebon blade exalted one, and lost like +60 hit :/
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20:47.27Repo10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 04v3.5 * aac8ece /: [new tag] Tagging v3.5 (my versioning schemes are all over the place...)
20:48.31thulfucking useless epic :-P
20:52.07Fisker:( ckknight
20:52.11Fiskeri wanted to listen to music
20:52.18FiskerBut then i found out i already were listening to music
20:53.37Repo10eightyfour: 03Jarlyn * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): Add files
20:55.37Fiskerom nom noms thul
20:55.40Fiskersup?
20:58.17BrunersFisker: you should listen to better music then
20:58.35BrunersFisker: like, lily allen
20:58.49Fiskernaw Bruners
20:58.56Zhinjiook
20:59.20Zhinjioif you were going to pick an avi codec that the majority of people are going to be able to do on their PCs, which would you pick?
20:59.29Fiskeryour mom
20:59.37Zhinjioand by "majority", I don't mean ... you all, I mean Fisker's Mom.
20:59.41Arrowmasterxvid
20:59.48Fiskerand it's not a codec it's an container
20:59.49Fiskerooooh snap
20:59.52BrunersZhinjio: follow scene rules
20:59.54Arrowmasterbut why are you using avi?
21:00.28Zhinjioit was my assumption that was the best choice
21:00.38Arrowmaster'best' how?
21:00.47Zhinjiofrom both a compression perspective as well as portability
21:00.53Arrowmasternot really
21:00.58Brunershttp://pastebin.ca/1351025
21:01.47Gnarfozavi has not much to do with compression, and for portability, well, AVI is old and restrictive ;o
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21:01.58ZhinjioI'm certainly open to suggestions
21:02.13Zhinjioif my mom doesn't get her fix of baby movies soon, I'm gonna have to move closer to her
21:02.34Arrowmasterand by portability do you mean for playing on consoles, standalone dvd players, and portable crap like ipods
21:02.40ZhinjioPCs
21:02.46Gnarfozwell, depends. the probability of windows having WMV codecs is pretty high
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21:03.21Gnarfozand even if not, they're the ones windows media player will certainly be able to fetch
21:03.22ZhinjioI don't believe much of my "target" audience (so to speak) uses macs
21:03.43Arrowmasterand how much of a concern is compression?
21:03.51Zhinjioquite a bit
21:04.02Arrowmasteri figured because you have very limited upload
21:04.05Gnarfozgrrrr, why does the damn "Objectives" frame keep showing up? I set it's alpha to 0 and checked the "disable mouse interaction" checkbox and each login it keeps showing up again. :[
21:04.14Zhinjiowell, more that they haev limited download
21:04.17Zhinjiosome of them
21:04.27ZhinjioI'm not worried about my upload
21:04.52Arrowmasterdo they have older computers?
21:05.09Zhinjioin some cases, yes. But I can assume at least XP
21:05.29Arrowmasterwell cpu speed is a determining factor
21:05.33Zhinjionods.
21:05.46Zhinjioif they're that old... there's not a whole lot I'm going to be able to do for them
21:06.52ZhinjioBruners: does scene follow allow cropping  as the name implies?
21:07.06Zhinjiofollow scene, whatever
21:07.41Arrowmasterwell h264 has one of the best compression right now but depending on resolution, playback on anything slower than a core 2 duo is probably going to be difficult
21:07.53Zhinjiooof.
21:08.07srgecoreavc go
21:08.12Zhinjiohel, I don't don't even havethat
21:08.40Arrowmastergo with xvid then
21:12.31GnarfozZhinjio: he was referring to the warez "Scene" rules, not some "scene following" technique
21:12.48Zhinjioalright
21:15.01Repo10libtalentquery-1-0: 03Zeksie * r70 LibTalentQuery-1.0.lua:
21:15.04RepoNo longer immediately checks the queue when a Query is issued to stop repeated requests from multiple mods based on events triggering the same query sequentially after each other.
21:16.02Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2234 Locales/constants.en.lua: - various stuff
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21:16.33Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2236 Core/TextParsing.lua: - various stuff
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21:19.16ZhinjioI realize this is fairly off topic
21:19.20Zhinjiobut anyway
21:19.32Zhinjioany recommendations on video editing software?
21:19.40Pneu^sony vegas
21:19.44Zhinjiofree or relatively cheap
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21:20.04Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2237 Modules/Crafting/crafting.lua: - Updated Jewelcrafting and crafted weapons
21:20.25Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2238 Modules/WorldEvents/worldevents.lua: - Updated Argent Tournament
21:20.31Pneu^windows movie maker then
21:20.47Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2239 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: - various stuff
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21:21.24Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2240 Menus/CraftingMenus.lua: - Updated Jewelcrafting and crafted weapons
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21:23.02Zhinjiovegas movie studio 9 ... $54.95
21:23.07Zhinjiothats not utterly unreasonable.
21:23.47Repo10hexmessage: 03stolenlegacy * r11 HexMessage.lua: Added features:
21:23.52Repo- The description of /hex on in the slash command text is now correct.
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21:25.53Zhinjioas usual, wikipedia is awesome.
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21:40.44Pneu^Zhinjio: never tried movie studio, there might be a trial or something for it though
21:40.59Pneu^may well be a stripped down vegas pro, so could be reasonable
21:41.20Zhinjio*nods*
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21:57.52Funkeh`Mikk, I'm getting several reports now of people with more than 50 friends
21:59.18Stanzillalikks Funkeh`
21:59.25Funkeh`likk?
21:59.31Stanzilla...
22:00.07Funkeh`pets Stanzilla
22:03.08Megalonmore than 50 friends?
22:03.11MegalonOUTRAGEOUS
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22:36.27Gnarfoz~seen nevcairiel
22:36.28purlnevcairiel <n=hleppkes@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 1h 58m 10s ago, saying: 'i never used it myself, i would rather use a set of functions to access the table if i need to act on modifications .. but it works fine'.
22:37.03Gnarfoz@description libpendingheals-1-0
22:37.11Gnarfoz@describe libpendingheals-1-0
22:37.13RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libpendingheals-1-0/. LibPendingHeals-1.0. Pending heals library
22:37.20Gnarfozawsum description
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22:39.45Gnarfozso, the new multicast spells for shaman totems... are they just keybinds?
22:41.59Megalonthey are actual spells
22:49.07Gnarfozhm
22:50.48KemayoYeah -- my shaman bought the first spell, and that triggered the new totem bar showing up.
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22:58.37Fiskermegal
22:58.39Fiskermega
22:58.40Fiskerfu
22:58.41FiskerGnarfoz
22:58.44Fiskerget megalon back in here
22:59.14Gnarfozshould I call his phone or go knock on his door?
22:59.32Fiskerboth
22:59.35Fiskerat the same time
22:59.39SunTsuGnarfoz: Knock on his door, using Fisker as the knocker
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23:14.10ShadowedI'll write a better one once I tag it as beta Gnarfoz :p
23:14.27Gnarfozwhat are you writing it for at all?
23:14.35Shadowedbetter accuracy
23:14.36Gnarfozbecause of no HoTs in LHC?
23:14.44Shadowedcleaner code in general and I can support more heals
23:14.59Gnarfozand you expect it to get adopted?
23:15.00ShadowedLHC doesn't really have the mechanics to support hots/tranquility type of heals
23:15.12Shadowedmaybe maybe not
23:15.26Arrowmasterand LHC uses names instead of guids
23:15.30Shadowedand that
23:15.51Arrowmasterall major unitframes are using guids internally now because they have to
23:15.58Gnarfozogles the LHC guid branch he thought he saw fly by
23:16.01Arrowmasterunless they want bugs
23:16.19Shadowedyou do know the only reason that GUID branch is there is because of my work on LPH right? :P
23:16.35Gnarfozno, why would I
23:16.41Shadowedyou do know!
23:16.43Shadowed-k
23:16.44Gnarfozand normally, I'd hope that it would be your branch
23:16.49Shadowedeh
23:17.11ShadowedLHCs comm code is too strict in general and you can't really move to GUIDs without rewriting it
23:17.52ShadowedI already messaged xbeeps again seeing if he wanted to move LPH as a new major of LHC and phase out 3.0, but since he never responded I'll just go with LPH + wrapper library
23:18.20Gnarfozwell, hm
23:18.35Shadowedhave you looked at LHCs code thought? It's rather ugly :<
23:18.48Shadowedtheres a bunch of unnecessary tables created and such
23:18.49Gnarfozshrugs
23:19.17Gnarfozthat's a comment you hear from lots of people about other lots of people's code around here any day anyway ;>
23:20.24Gnarfozhard to actually take it seriously anymore without looking at it yourself (and even then, now it suddenly depends on your own proficiency)
23:21.31Gnarfoznevermind, just rambling, coming back from 2 weeks of no internet :P
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23:21.41Shadowedfun
23:21.49ckknightShadowed: is LPH production-quality
23:21.50ckknight?
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23:22.14Shadowedin a day or two, there's not much left to do but it can be tested at this point
23:22.19ckknightk
23:22.30ckknightwhen it is, I guess it'd probably be a good idea to upgrade the pitbulls
23:22.35ckknightso that it's in the hands of more people and all
23:23.02Shadowedyea was talking to Shefki about that a few days ago, need to write a wrapper library to convert HealComm data to LibPendingHeals-1.0 before it can start to be used by addons
23:23.09ckknightyea
23:23.14Shadowedbut that's easy enough
23:23.33ckknightso it'd interpret but not send LHC data?
23:24.30ShadowedI'm not sure yet, I'm not a fan of sending two messages per heal to keep LHC in the loop but since LHC is going to be changed to send a name and a GUID message... it's not exactly much of a loss
23:24.55Shadowedprobably make it on by default to send to LHC, but can be disabled if the author doesn't want it on
23:25.34taledenif you don't send data back to LHC, then won't anyone who switches (or uses unitframes/whatever that switched) become invisible to everyone who doesn't? that seems counterproductive
23:26.00Shadowedcorrect
23:26.15Shadowedbut I still hate the idea of sending two messages per heal :p
23:26.34taledenyeah but you need a certain critical mass to get people to switch
23:26.36Arrowmasteri hate the idea of having two libraries that do the same thing
23:26.45Gnarfoz^
23:26.48taledenif one guy is the early adopter and suddenly his heals disappear from everyone else in the raid, they'll just make him switch back
23:26.52Shadowedit doesn't realy do the same thing
23:26.56Shadowed+l
23:27.15Arrowmasterif one is better than the other than the other needs to die
23:27.36Shadowedand I agree with you, I'm not embedding the wrapper library with LPH by default
23:28.24Shadowedbut I have to be realistic, if healing data is exclusively shared with other LPH users then it's harder to get people to adopt. If it turns out that everyone starts to move to it, then I can abandon the wrapper library in 3.4 or 4.0
23:28.25taledenbut then imho any author that uses LPH and doesn't include the LHC wrapper, and enable sending data back to LHC, is shooting his users in the foot
23:28.47taledenI could understand making it possible for authors to put that choice on users, so if they know everyone in the raid uses LPH, they can t urn off the LHC compat and save a bit of bandwidth
23:29.01Shadowedit would just be a function call, so they could do whatever they want taleden
23:29.03ShefkiYou can simply install LHC if you want to send data to other LHC users.
23:29.11ShefkiYou don't have to use it to do the display.
23:29.12Arrowmasterit shouldnt be the authors choice but the users
23:29.21taledenagree arrowmaster
23:29.23Shadowedwhich, sending data?
23:29.25Arrowmasteryes
23:29.29Shadowedtrue, on the other hand then you have LHC and LPH both doing healing calculations isn't that efficient Shefki
23:29.48taledenwhich is back to the two libs doing the same thing problem
23:29.49ShefkiShadowed: Hopefully a temporarily problem though.
23:29.52Shadowedyea
23:29.52taledenif they're going to coexist that's unavoidable
23:30.02Shadowedit's just a case of, I don't know what the other authors are going to do
23:30.28ShadowedI plan on switching to it once it's stable, as does Shefki and the VuhDo author expressed interest in it too, and I'll likely write plugins for PR and maybe oUF
23:31.06ShefkiI absolutely hate the named based situation that's the case with LHC.
23:31.16Shadowedso do I, but it's understandable
23:31.26ShefkiOhh I understand why it's the way it is.
23:31.29ShefkiI just hate it.
23:31.35ShefkiSo if I can get rid of it I will.
23:31.47Arrowmasterimho best situation would just be to make your new library the new major version of LHC
23:32.16Shadowedit would, and I PMed xbeeps about that and even that if he didn't want to do it we should at least agree on a format that LPH and LHC-4.0 would share, but no response and he's definitely read it
23:32.18taledenthe politics between those two authors seem to make that unlikely
23:32.20ShefkiArrowmaster: I don't think he can.
23:32.45ShadowedI was even nice and apologized for not talking to him in the first place!
23:32.59taledenLHC does some kind of preemptive version announce, right?
23:33.02Shadowedyea
23:33.38Shadowedit requests version data when you first login from GUILD/RAID (or party or battleground) and then from your group when you join one the first time
23:33.45taledenhow hard would it be to have LPH automatically enable/disable LHC compat based on LHC's version announce?
23:34.09ShefkiThat would be terribly ironic.
23:34.11taledeninitially you have to expect LPH will be the minority, or at best an even mix, so it needs to cooperate with LHC or it's kind of worthless
23:34.25taledenbut that way if everyone in a group uses LPH, it can disable the LHC compat and save the bandwith
23:34.27ShadowedI was planning on doing that with the wrapper library, but I don't want it in the LPH core
23:34.37taledenfair enough
23:34.47taledenI guess I just can't see any reason any author would ever embed LPH without the wrapper
23:34.57Shadowedthe idea of using the versioning data and smartly enabling/disabling is something I'll do, I didn't miss the irony Shefki :p
23:34.58taledenbecause doing that would screw any user who's in a group with an LHC user
23:35.41Shadowedtaleden: cause in a perfect world unless xbeeps writes LHC-4.0 with perfect GUID detection and support for more types of heal, the wrapper won't be needed eventually
23:35.48ShefkiI've never obsessed over people having it or not.
23:35.52taledenyes but it will be needed initially
23:35.58taledenso why not make it a default part of the initial release
23:35.58ShefkiI wouldn't surprised if some of my healers in my guild don't have it.
23:36.03taledenif LPH takes over, then drop it in LPH-2
23:36.21Shadowedif there's a LPH-2 then the design has failed horribly :p
23:36.25Shefkitaleden: Frankly the compat should be up to users not authors.
23:36.27taledenLPH-1.1, whatever
23:36.36Gnarfozthat would need to get adopted, too
23:36.40Shadowedyea making it so it was just an addon the users grabbed also crossed my mind
23:36.43Shadowedbut I look at it this way
23:36.48taledenshefki: if authors have such long discussions about this issue, can you expect users to understand why they need two libs for the same thing?
23:36.56Gnarfozalso, if you leave the choice up to users... nobody will care about turning off the LHC sending stuff
23:36.59Shadowedwe have long discussions because we like to argue
23:37.02Shadowedand have nothing better to do
23:37.02taledenmost of them won't get that, and will just say "hey suddenly I can't see half the raid's heals, your lib is broken"
23:37.15Gnarfozok, nobody... minus the handful of tech-savvy people who care.
23:37.20Shadowedyea, that's why I'm not making it a separate addon
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23:37.34Shefkitaleden: What's difficult to understand.  If you want to use LPH based addons and communicate with people using LHC you need the addon that makes that happen.
23:37.47taledenhow often do users currently have to worry about what libs their addons use?
23:37.59taledenthey'll install a new sUF or whatever and suddenly half the heals are gone
23:38.11Shadowedthe LPH info will very clearly state that it's not compatibile with LHC syncs and if they want it to be then they have to grab the library
23:38.28Shadowedit's not going to be hidden, it's not going to be a "oh hey, suddently I'm not seeing LHC heals!" scenario unless the author specifically made that choice
23:38.45Shadowed(keeping in mind, that the user could still go grab the library himself and run it standalone)
23:40.25Arrowmasterimho just convincing enough addon authors to support it should be good, trying to add compat will just make things a pita from over complexiticy (like threat-1.0 with KLHTM compat)
23:40.40Shadowedyup, it also keeps the core library simpler too
23:40.50taledenbut there's a risk of balkanizing the healers if authors don't uniformly support both during the transition
23:41.00Shadowedthen that's the authors fault
23:41.16taledeni understand your argument, but i think in practice users won't see it that way
23:41.18Shadowedthe author does nothing to support the wrapper library, it will literally be drop in and it runs
23:41.32ShadowedThe best part about libraries?
23:41.37Shadowedthe author gets the complaints not me
23:41.53ShadowedSo if he decides not to embed the library they complain to them for their mistake :p
23:42.16ShefkiThat reminds me.  xbeeps broke Nourish support... And I need to point him to the ticket I have.
23:42.44Shadowedhow did Nourish support break?
23:43.21ShefkiIt's throwing an error about an invalid unit id but only when people cast Nourish.
23:43.28ShefkiI can't reproduce it but whatever it's in the library.
23:43.53Kilrooclucks his tongue disapprovingly at DrDamage and Gathermate.
23:44.00Shadowedwhats DrDamage going wrong?
23:44.15KilrooNothing.
23:44.39KilrooAt least as far as I know.
23:44.49ShadowedI wish we had an accurate way of telling time between users, would make hots a lot easier :<
23:45.22ShefkiGo study up on how NTP works.
23:45.27ShefkiAnything it does you can do.
23:46.14KilrooI haven't actually played the game in quite a while.
23:46.20Arrowmasterlol NTP in wow, that would be funny
23:46.27ShadowedNTP is based on a master server isn't it?
23:46.30Arrowmasterno
23:46.36Shadowedwell a mastery-server
23:46.39KilrooI need to stop bothering to update my oUF layout unless it breaks.
23:46.39Arrowmasterno
23:46.41ShefkiIt's peers.
23:46.57ShefkiYou can set how athoritative a given peer is.
23:47.01KilrooThe modifications I make to oUF-Caellian in order to get it to suit me are too much hassle.
23:47.30KilrooI had been trying to reapply them every time so I could see how the layout was evolving.
23:47.33ShefkiProbably unnecessary complicated but if you want to find a way of dealing with latency and timing across a network NTP is where I'd start.
23:47.50Shadowedwell, it's more a case of figuring out the time left on hots
23:48.09ShefkiShould be able to just ask the game for it.
23:48.15ShefkiIt's not perfect but it'll be close enough.
23:48.23ArrowmasterNTP works by asking multiple servers their time and using the latancy to the server to determine a time difference then using the differences returned from multiple servers to make a guess at what the time is, unless you have a stratum1 server theres no guarenty that your time is perfectly correct but just as close as you can guess it is
23:48.26Shadowedgame time is only accurate to the minute I though?
23:48.54ShefkiI'm pretty sure hots are more accurate than that.
23:49.01Shadowedpossibly
23:49.06Shadowedwe need minute long hots
23:49.08ShefkiI mean just ask for the expiration time.
23:49.12Shefkiwith UnitAura()
23:49.21Shadowedexpiration time is in GetTime() which is different between clients
23:49.22ShefkiYou should be able to figure out which one is which.
23:49.38ShefkiOr at least darn close.
23:49.44ArrowmasterShadowed: theres a trick where you can query the server time every frame until it changes and then create a time offset from your system clock so you have an idea of seconds in server time
23:49.46ShefkiAnd if they're close enough to be hard to tell then it doesn't really matter.
23:49.53Arrowmasterbut its not accurate for upto a minute after login
23:50.06Shadowedthats an interesting trick
23:50.56Shadowedmaybe I should just tell people their raid has to reboot at the same time
23:50.59Shadowedthink that will work?
23:51.30Arrowmasteryou have to wait upto a minute after login though
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23:51.40Arrowmasterwhat if somebody gets DCd mid fight and relogs?
23:51.47Shadowedthey have to wipe of course and reboot
23:54.06ShadowedLooks like auras are available when SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS fires in CLEU, probably easier to send the hots total duration and then make the client resync the end time once UNIT_AURA fires locally. Absolutely worse case it's 1s-2s off until UNIT_AURA fires
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