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| 00:01.50 | sylvanaar | perhaps its loot messages that are being filtered |
| 00:02.36 | vhaarr | Fisker: ah ye I hadn't looked at that before, I see now it needs some fixin |
| 00:02.38 | vhaarr | ~framexml |
| 00:02.39 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 00:03.30 | Fisker | Also, atleast for LoH, it reports 20 minutes cooldown even though i glyphed it for 15 minutes |
| 00:05.04 | vhaarr | hm that's weird |
| 00:06.29 | Fisker | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/gridcustomlayouts.aspx <-chinesemen ;( |
| 00:11.59 | vhaarr | works here for Shield Wall at least |
| 00:12.43 | Fisker | oh |
| 00:12.50 | Fisker | works for me as well now |
| 00:12.53 | vhaarr | Fisker: can you do for i = 1, 6 do print(select( .. okay |
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| 00:13.06 | vhaarr | when did it NOT work? |
| 00:13.13 | Fisker | just before |
| 00:13.16 | Fisker | the first time i used it |
| 00:13.34 | Fisker | just before being about 30 minutes ago :P |
| 00:13.52 | vhaarr | did you respec? |
| 00:13.59 | Fisker | nope |
| 00:14.48 | vhaarr | were you in a raid? |
| 00:14.56 | vhaarr | did you re-glyph? |
| 00:14.57 | Fisker | yep |
| 00:14.58 | Fisker | and no |
| 00:15.01 | vhaarr | okay |
| 00:15.17 | vhaarr | well that's a bug then, the function :UpdateCooldownModifiers was simply not run |
| 00:15.23 | vhaarr | which accounts for glyphs etc |
| 00:15.49 | vhaarr | but the raid lockout panel, right |
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| 00:23.34 | expiation | does bigwigs work with the new ToC content? |
| 00:23.46 | Stanzilla | ye |
| 00:23.48 | Stanzilla | s |
| 00:23.55 | expiation | cheers man |
| 00:24.44 | SunStealer | hmm, any of the wow-wine-runners here? |
| 00:25.00 | Kilroo | I run wow on wine |
| 00:25.08 | Kilroo | but I haven't loaded it up in weeks. |
| 00:25.34 | SunStealer | hmm, I have installed and patched it fine, edited the parts of the WTF-config file I should etc, but the screen is just black |
| 00:25.39 | SunStealer | i cna hear it load, and i can tab-login |
| 00:25.42 | SunStealer | but the screen is just black |
| 00:25.49 | taleden | i do sun |
| 00:26.05 | taleden | did it ever work for you? |
| 00:26.30 | SunStealer | nopes |
| 00:26.32 | SunStealer | first time trying |
| 00:26.34 | Kilroo | I don't remember anything about editing a config file |
| 00:26.54 | Kilroo | but it has been a while. |
| 00:27.34 | Fisker | superckknightman |
| 00:27.47 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam 07patch-3-2-testing * r78 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 00:27.50 | Repo | Fix Focused will healing bonus -- from the release notes from patch 3.0.2: |
| 00:27.53 | Repo | # Focused Will (Discipline): Now increases healing effects on you by 3/4/5%, down from 4/7/10%. |
| 00:27.56 | Repo | Simplify the Divine Hymn healing buff to a constant 10% buff; it's only a single rank and talent unlocks a spell that provides the buff -- from the release notes from patch 3.1.3: |
| 00:27.59 | Repo | # Divine Hymn redesigned: You recite a Holy hymn, summoning the power of the Divine to assist you in your time of need. Heals 3 nearby lowest-health friendly party or raid targets for 4960-5208 every 2 seconds for 8 seconds, and increases healing done to them by 15% for 8 seconds. Maximum of 12 heals. The Priest must channel to maintain the spell. Cooldown increased to 6 minutes, up from 5. |
| 00:29.04 | Kilroo | I wonder how many of my addons I can replace with Hack scripts. |
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| 00:35.11 | Kilroo | I also wonder if either Lua plugin works with Galileo yet... |
| 00:38.31 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r230 oRA3.lua: |
| 00:38.34 | Repo | Hack fix to show/hide the oRA panels according to the raid info panel. |
| 00:43.33 | Torhal | SunStealer: What video card? |
| 00:44.27 | Antiarc | Well this sort of blows |
| 00:44.53 | Antiarc | Aion isn't open until this weekend :< |
| 00:45.11 | Torhal | Antiarc: nassy |
| 00:46.17 | NeoTron | Antiarc: yeah nothing like WoW beta process |
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| 01:06.57 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: more time for chatter! yes, I'm an ass :P |
| 01:13.16 | SunStealer | i got wow working |
| 01:13.17 | SunStealer | jehaw |
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| 01:13.23 | SunStealer | sexytime |
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| 01:22.44 | Esteth | Hi everyone. I've been trying to write a little addon to solve a problem my guildies have been having. I have programming experience, but no LUA experience. Following the WelcomeHome tutorial and trying to adapt it, I've been wanting to add a /command using AceConfig-3.0, but my /command doesn't work in game, as though it didn't register, but the addon is definately recognised by ace. will pastie link code in a second. |
| 01:22.53 | krka | Esteth: LUA, what's that? Did you mean to say Lua? :-D |
| 01:23.19 | Esteth | Sorry, I keep forgetting Lua Isn't an acronym >_< |
| 01:23.23 | Shefki | Esteth: Umm what are you trying to do, AceConfig may be overkill. |
| 01:23.58 | Shadowed | If anyones interested: http://gist.github.com/raw/165536/efd35a1bc7e93c9e0c01e82220935c42c1d707d4/gistfile1.txt going to play with that for a more accurate LibHealComm-3.0 replacement as the API |
| 01:24.18 | Esteth | I want 2 or 3 /commands for running a couple of functions. I assume there's an easier way to do it without going through AceConfig? |
| 01:25.21 | Esteth | I might want to do more with it once I've got the basics working, but I suppose I should just keep it simple for the moment. |
| 01:27.11 | Repo | 10lag-detective (experimental): 03NotmymuffinBBUS * r2 LagDetective/: beta 0.0.3 |
| 01:28.15 | taleden | SlashCmdList["MYADDON"] = function(string) if (string == "cmd1") then dostuff() elseif (string == "cmd2") then dootherstuff() end end |
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| 01:30.50 | Esteth | Sorry about that, browser crashed. |
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| 01:33.45 | Repo | 10lag-detective (experimental): 03NotmymuffinBBUS * r3 LagDetective/: Whatever |
| 01:34.01 | Shadowed | Lag-detective? |
| 01:34.11 | Shadowed | @project lag-detective |
| 01:34.13 | Shadowed | or maybe it's ! |
| 01:34.14 | Repo | Shadowed: http://www.wowace.com/addons/lag-detective/. Lag Detective. Game: WoW. Status: Requesting experimental. NotmymuffinBBUS (Manager/Author). Updated: 6 hours ago |
| 01:34.14 | Shadowed | or . :< |
| 01:35.49 | Repo | 10lag-detective (experimental): 03NotmymuffinBBUS * r4 LagDetective/: beta 0.0.3 |
| 01:36.20 | Repo | 10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme * r78 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag v2.3.0-beta6 for changeset 5e6d5076b3bc |
| 01:36.23 | Repo | - somewhat clumsy short-term fix for the tooltip error (nil comparison) |
| 01:39.52 | Esteth | Even when I try the method suggested at http://www.wowwiki.com/Creating_a_slash_command , My slash command still doesn't work. Is there something really obvious with regards to slash commands I may be missing? |
| 01:41.06 | taleden | it doesn't fire at all, or it doesn't parse arguments? |
| 01:42.12 | vhaarr | Esteth: paste.wowace.com all your code |
| 01:42.17 | taleden | to get a slash command you need to define a global named "SLASH_<UNIQUE><#>" with the value "/<slashcommand>" |
| 01:42.49 | taleden | then you need to add to the global table "SlashCmdList" a key "<UNIQUE>" whose value is your handler function |
| 01:43.04 | taleden | <UNIQUE> is usually the full name of your addon, in all caps, to make sure it doesn't conflict |
| 01:43.17 | taleden | <#> starts at 1 and goes up if you have multiple commands |
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| 01:43.35 | taleden | and <slashcommand> is the text the user types |
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| 01:46.03 | Repo | 10lag-detective (experimental): 03NotmymuffinBBUS * r5 LagDetective/: Whatever |
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| 01:51.26 | SunStealer | ach, I give up keybindings in linux on my logitech mouse for now |
| 01:51.30 | SunStealer | that has to wait until tomorrow :-P |
| 01:52.47 | Esteth | http://paste.wowace.com/948/ is my code |
| 01:53.25 | Esteth | It's in a bit of a state at the moment, I'm afraid. |
| 01:53.49 | taleden | it looks to me like lines 4-7 should be sufficient |
| 01:54.24 | Esteth | Perhaps instead of /rl I need to exit WoW and restart from scratch? |
| 01:54.42 | taleden | did you create this file since you started wow? |
| 01:55.00 | Esteth | No |
| 01:55.02 | taleden | or add its folder to your AddOns folder? or are you including this from an xml instead of a toc file? |
| 01:55.28 | taleden | probably worth restarting anyway i guess, and maybe toss a print() on line 8 to make sure the file is loading |
| 01:55.44 | Esteth | I have a toc file that first loads an embeds.xml with the Ace libs in it, then loads that file, Core.lue |
| 01:55.50 | Esteth | *lua. I shall restart just now. |
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| 02:00.53 | Esteth | Well, that would explain things. adding print("hi") on line 8 doesn't print "hi" when I reloadui |
| 02:02.22 | Repo | 10lag-detective (experimental): 03NotmymuffinBBUS * r6 LagDetective (4 files in 1 directory): lagdetective |
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| 02:08.07 | expiation | after trying it, i gotta say bigwigs so much better than dbm with this new content |
| 02:08.18 | expiation | unknown on unknown just isn't helpful imo |
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| 02:36.10 | Esteth | OK, I'm now totally stumped. I've deleted all my files and started from scratch, but now I don't even get my self:Printed messagein OnEnable in an otherwise entirely empty addon. |
| 02:37.26 | Kilroo1 | stares at his vast list of out-of-date addons and is amused. |
| 02:37.56 | Repo | 10allstats: 03Zhinjio * r21 Broker_AllStats.lua: AllStats : |
| 02:37.59 | Repo | - cleaned up a couple small code formatting things |
| 02:38.02 | Repo | - Added Translator credits, thanks to: |
| 02:38.05 | Repo | - lastdans(frFR), Freydis88(deDE), post(KoKR), Hemathio (ruRU) |
| 02:39.33 | Repo | 10allstats: 03Zhinjio 041.2.5-release * r22 : Tagging as 1.2.5-release |
| 02:40.34 | Kilroo1 | clucks his tongue disapprovingly at DrDamage. |
| 02:44.41 | Repo | 10allxp: 03Zhinjio * r30 Broker_AllXP.lua: AllStats : |
| 02:44.44 | Repo | - updated translator credits |
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| 02:50.58 | Repo | 10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio * r66 Broker_TradeCooldowns.lua: BTC : |
| 02:51.00 | Repo | - updated translator credits, thanks! |
| 02:54.12 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r84 Broker_HitCrit.lua: HitCrit : |
| 02:54.15 | Repo | - updated translator credits. Thank you! |
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| 03:09.55 | Repo | 10extractor: 03Zhinjio * r35 / (5 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 03:09.58 | Repo | Extractor : |
| 03:10.01 | Repo | - undo changes from commit hard embedding LDB |
| 03:10.04 | Repo | - please don't make changes unless you know what you're doing |
| 03:10.07 | Repo | - bump TOC |
| 03:10.46 | Repo | 10magic-marker: 03dhedbor * r154 Config.lua: Fixing bug with heroic raid instance data merging. |
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| 03:18.17 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r201 DefaultData.lua: |
| 03:18.20 | Repo | [*]Core: Added Trial of the Crusader bosses. Thanks to Venara. Missing the 'Faction Champions' encounter as for now, the unit id's are not known. |
| 03:19.39 | ckknight | http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/91864598/21503 |
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| 03:30.57 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r207 / (8 files in 8 directories): -- 3.2 mining run |
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| 03:41.00 | Repo | 10skg: 03Zhinjio * r156 SKG.toc: SKG : |
| 03:41.03 | Repo | - added esES localization (thanks andorreta) |
| 03:41.06 | Repo | - TOC bump for 3.2 |
| 03:43.06 | Repo | 10skg: 03Zhinjio * r157 Locales/esES.lua: SKG : |
| 03:43.24 | Repo | - and now really adding esES |
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| 03:49.26 | Torhal | Shefki: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=285409#post285409 last four posts |
| 03:51.56 | Repo | 10skg: 03Zhinjio 043.2.2-beta * r158 : Tagging as 3.2.2-beta |
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| 04:11.50 | Repo | 10repgain2: 03incith * r33 RepGain2.toc: use project-version in toc. |
| 04:11.53 | Repo | forgotten change note, r31: fixed Frostwolf |
| 04:13.51 | Repo | 10repgain2: 03incith * r34 RepGain2.toc: |
| 04:13.54 | Repo | Apparently you don't need the 'r' when using project-version. |
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| 04:46.09 | steev | so, i got the plate dps belt from ignis 25... and my dps went up 400 points on the test dummy? |
| 04:47.23 | steev | just seems odd to get that much of a boost |
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| 05:40.32 | Repo | 10recountguessedabsorbs: 03Elsia * r19 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Toc Bump |
| 05:40.35 | Repo | - Updates a few class and item shield effects. |
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| 05:50.04 | Maelos | steev: More likely that someone was putting a buff/debuff on the dummy that you didn't notice. |
| 05:50.42 | SunStealer | hmm, any of you linux-wowers use multi-key mouses and bind stuff to them in linux? |
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| 06:08.28 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libincomingheals-10/. LibIncomingHeals-1.0. Shadowed (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
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| 06:39.45 | Repo | 10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm * r56 / (2 files in 1 directory): Broker_ChannelWatch |
| 06:39.46 | Repo | -removed redundant table recycling code |
| 06:39.49 | Repo | -only call UpdateScrolling() if the tooltip size is restricted to hopefully fix rare tooltip positioning problems |
| 06:39.52 | Repo | -fix nil error on leaving channel sometimes |
| 06:40.55 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed, Torhal: that project name/slug should have a version number on it |
| 06:41.47 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster yea I know, I already asked him to change it |
| 06:41.52 | Shadowed | repo just does't show slug changes |
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| 06:42.10 | Arrowmaster | i looked at the activity log |
| 06:42.27 | Shadowed | the activity log doesn't show name changes! |
| 06:42.37 | Arrowmaster | yes it does |
| 06:42.47 | Shadowed | well, http://www.wowace.com/addons/libincomingheals works |
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| 06:43.09 | Shadowed | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libincomingheals-10 redirects to the former and repo name was changed to without version |
| 06:43.10 | Shadowed | so! |
| 06:43.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah because Torhal changed the slug after you renamed the project |
| 06:43.40 | Shadowed | oh |
| 06:44.35 | Arrowmaster | ckknight needs to change the site so that when the slug is automatically choosen from the project name it converts '.'s into '-'s instead of removing them |
| 06:44.54 | Repo | 10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm 04v2.7 * r57 : Tagging as v2.7 |
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| 06:47.24 | Shadowed | why can't auras give us spell ID |
| 06:47.27 | Shadowed | that would make life so much easier |
| 06:47.42 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: k |
| 06:48.41 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Ya know, I didn't even think of that - if he bumps the major at some point there needs to be a way to differentiate. |
| 06:49.31 | Shadowed | oh should |
| 06:49.33 | sylvanaar | thats philisophical |
| 06:49.34 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: which is why all libraries need to be a different project for each major version |
| 06:49.40 | Torhal | Aye |
| 06:49.46 | Shadowed | haste and Shirik|AFK seem to disagree :< |
| 06:49.54 | Shadowed | go yell at them |
| 06:50.24 | Shirik|AFK | what? |
| 06:50.24 | Arrowmaster | Shirik|AFK doesnt know anything, never listen to him |
| 06:50.26 | Shirik|AFK | what did I do |
| 06:50.35 | Torhal | Shirik|AFK: Apparently, you ate babies. |
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| 06:50.53 | Shirik|AFK | Oh |
| 06:51.02 | Shirik|AFK | I'm not allowed to be of the opinion that version numbers shouldn't be part of the name? |
| 06:51.47 | sztanpet | any reagent tracker addon with a databroker feed that also tracks ammo? |
| 06:52.19 | Elkano | Shirik|AFK, you're allowed any opinion... at least if it matches mine ;) |
| 06:53.12 | Torhal | Shirik|AFK: Well, if someone is using LibWhackaMole-1.0 in their addon, and the lib's author makes a new version that completely breaks the API (and hence the upgrade path), the best way to fix that is to have a different project with a new name. |
| 06:53.23 | Shadowed | to be fair |
| 06:53.29 | Shadowed | can always just create it as -2.0 on a new project |
| 06:53.38 | Torhal | So people who don't feel like using the new version can continue using the old without issue. |
| 06:53.39 | Shadowed | and the unnamed one stays as -1.0 |
| 06:53.49 | Torhal | That also makes sense. |
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| 06:53.58 | Shadowed | although I wouldn't realy want someone using an old major either way unless I specifically had a reason |
| 06:54.20 | Shirik|AFK | Torhal: APIs should never break |
| 06:54.30 | Shirik|AFK | if they do break, they should have at least gone through a transitional period |
| 06:54.38 | Shirik|AFK | and if they can't, then they should not be named the same |
| 06:55.03 | Shirik|AFK | Ref Microsoft. Perhaps not the best example, but their API is still backwards compatible all the way to the 16 bit ear |
| 06:55.04 | Shirik|AFK | era |
| 06:55.12 | Shirik|AFK | Which is why we have some strange function names like |
| 06:55.32 | Torhal | Eh, and people are still using deprecated shit because of it. "It's what I know." |
| 06:56.14 | Shirik|AFK | here we are |
| 06:56.15 | Shirik|AFK | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd317805(VS.85).aspx |
| 06:56.21 | Shirik|AFK | EnumCalendarInfoExEx |
| 06:56.43 | Shirik|AFK | EnumCalendarInfoEx being the Windows 2000+ version |
| 06:57.02 | Shirik|AFK | EnumCalendarInfo before that |
| 06:57.48 | Torhal | ...and with most people being preoccuppied with the libraries they use in AddOns being as small as possible... |
| 06:59.58 | Shirik|AFK | oh god |
| 07:00.05 | Shirik|AFK | your addon has too many libraries |
| 07:00.11 | Shirik|AFK | it can't possibly be efficient |
| 07:00.14 | Shirik|AFK | it takes up too much memory |
| 07:00.18 | Shirik|AFK | omg you're using 5MB of memory wtf |
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| 07:00.23 | Shirik|AFK | I only have like 8 in my computer |
| 07:00.24 | Torhal | Haha |
| 07:00.46 | Shirik|AFK | I think the #1 worst thing to ever happen to WoW |
| 07:00.53 | Shirik|AFK | was give users the ability to see the amount of memory usage |
| 07:01.06 | Torhal | Aye. |
| 07:01.11 | Shirik|AFK | developers, fine, they know what to do with that info (in theory) |
| 07:01.20 | Shirik|AFK | users make up their own moronic conclusions |
| 07:01.29 | Torhal | But I was talking more in terms of functionality "bloat" |
| 07:02.01 | Shadowed | Shirik|AFK yes |
| 07:02.06 | Shirik|AFK | I mean, theoretically, if we're this concerned about memory, how dare we be using Object Orientation in programs these days! |
| 07:02.13 | Shirik|AFK | Everything should be written in C |
| 07:02.19 | Shadowed | no no |
| 07:02.24 | Shadowed | all of the code should be loadstringed |
| 07:02.24 | Shirik|AFK | but wait, we can't do that, because that means we have to write out all these symbols to the ELF file |
| 07:02.30 | Shadowed | and we should always call a full GC |
| 07:02.30 | Shirik|AFK | we need to do it in assembly |
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| 07:02.39 | Torhal | vomits. |
| 07:02.58 | Shirik|AFK | funny thing is |
| 07:03.07 | Shirik|AFK | people complain about Java so much for the same reasons |
| 07:03.26 | Shirik|AFK | Yet fail to realize .NET/Java programs probably make up a significant portion of the applications out there, and they can't even tell the difference |
| 07:03.52 | Torhal | Sorry, I saw this quote the other day and have to repeat it: |
| 07:04.05 | haste | branches guys |
| 07:04.08 | haste | they are there to be used |
| 07:04.20 | Torhal | "Saying that Java is great because it works on all OSes is like saying anal sex is great because it works on all genders." |
| 07:04.30 | haste | one project per major is just stupid :p |
| 07:04.40 | Shirik|AFK | don't get me wrong |
| 07:04.44 | Shirik|AFK | Java is a horrible language |
| 07:04.52 | Shirik|AFK | however, its performance is quite decent |
| 07:05.06 | Shirik|AFK | especially the HotSpot server |
| 07:05.41 | krka | nah it's a nice language |
| 07:05.49 | Shirik|AFK | I think we've already had this discussion krka :P |
| 07:06.11 | Shirik|AFK | I am of the opinion Java abuses OO and follows patterns in OO which ought not be followed |
| 07:06.25 | Shirik|AFK | for example, it abuses inheritance |
| 07:06.48 | Shirik|AFK | Then again, there are those that say I listen to Stroustroup too much |
| 07:06.54 | krka | people abuse it, not java |
| 07:07.12 | Shirik|AFK | no, even Java's foundation library abuses it |
| 07:07.27 | Shirik|AFK | then there's the whole generics hack that I still don't get |
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| 07:11.01 | sylvanaar | Java = horrible |
| 07:11.15 | Shirik|AFK | Then again |
| 07:11.20 | Shirik|AFK | I'm also the person that says interfaces shouldn't exist |
| 07:11.56 | Shirik|AFK | They should exist, but only sematically. There is, in practice, no difference between an interface and an abstract class with no members or concrete methods |
| 07:12.41 | Shirik|AFK | C++ is my baby |
| 07:13.28 | sylvanaar | you dont inherit from an interface technically - in c++ you can - thats why its confusing |
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| 07:16.34 | ckknight | I don't like Java's OO |
| 07:16.37 | ckknight | I like Ruby's OO |
| 07:16.47 | sylvanaar | im sorta over oo |
| 07:18.24 | sylvanaar | and formalism |
| 07:18.33 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r208 / (7 files in 4 directories): more 3.2 stuff + some dataminer fixes |
| 07:19.17 | sylvanaar | so easy to get carried away... |
| 07:19.28 | Fisker | this is hilarious |
| 07:19.30 | Fisker | just did a WG |
| 07:19.31 | ckknight | what's a better solution? |
| 07:19.52 | Fisker | Then we lose because we're 60 men short of having a full team |
| 07:20.09 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03Elkano * r263 / (4 files in 2 directories): added Arena Season 6 and some more currency items |
| 07:20.22 | Fisker | and this pvp ejerk whines about how none above arena rating 2500 should queue for WG(He isn't even rating 2500 himself lol) |
| 07:20.59 | sylvanaar | i dont know honestly |
| 07:22.13 | ckknight | sylvanaar: have you ever actually dealt with a real OO system? i.e. not Java/.NET |
| 07:22.30 | sylvanaar | no - i haven't |
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| 07:25.37 | krka | i prefer languages that support both functional style and object style |
| 07:25.53 | SunStealer | nerd :-D |
| 07:26.23 | Elkano | I prefere brainfuck... NOT |
| 07:27.20 | Groktar | nibbles on Elkano |
| 07:30.23 | Torhal | sprays Groktar with a water bottle. |
| 07:31.44 | Groktar | scampers |
| 07:33.42 | sylvanaar | ruby looks kinda nice |
| 07:34.04 | SunStealer | python ftw |
| 07:36.30 | sylvanaar | tabs |
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| 07:40.58 | Repo | 10bayis-extended-questlog: 03angelike * r221 / (7 files in 1 directory): - fix progress to chat |
| 07:41.01 | Repo | - add lib for addonn comm. |
| 07:41.04 | Repo | - fix tracker dragging issue |
| 07:41.04 | sylvanaar | what are the |pipes| |
| 07:42.32 | Elkano | "ceci n'est pas une pipe." ;) |
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| 07:46.40 | sylvanaar | lol |
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| 07:52.26 | Fisker | slaps sylvanaar around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:52.40 | Groktar | watches the Fisker gerbiling video again |
| 07:52.42 | Repo | 10libsnowflake-2-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r18 / (6 files in 1 directory): prepare for patch 3.2 |
| 07:52.45 | Fisker | hello Groktar |
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| 07:52.56 | Fisker | ~seen Zarnivoop |
| 07:52.58 | purl | zarnivoop is currently on #wowace (15h 37m 39s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 13h 56m 24s, last said: 'Fisker: yes?'. |
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| 08:02.39 | sb|work | mhh... raid lock extension, is it possible to extend a lock, kill 2-3 bosses and then start a new raid id? :P |
| 08:03.44 | sb|work | ok, it's not possible :p |
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| 08:12.49 | vhaarr | fucking hiccups in the morning |
| 08:13.11 | vhaarr | sb|work: genius |
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| 08:16.11 | Repo | 10libsnowflake-2-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r19 Snowflake-2.0.lua: prepare for patch 3.2 |
| 08:16.20 | Repo | 10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r95 AceGUIWidget-List.lua: first version |
| 08:16.20 | Shefki | prepare O.O |
| 08:16.23 | Shefki | It's out. |
| 08:16.25 | Shefki | lol |
| 08:18.43 | Fisker | btw vhaarr it's happened x2 in party now |
| 08:18.47 | Fisker | with the bugged loh timer :o |
| 08:19.14 | vhaarr | fix it then |
| 08:19.44 | Fisker | >:o |
| 08:20.22 | vhaarr | ah hm |
| 08:20.37 | vhaarr | think I know what's going on |
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| 08:20.47 | Fisker | can't hide anything from you |
| 08:20.51 | vhaarr | perhaps the information isn't available immediately upon login |
| 08:24.02 | Zarnivoop | Fisker: did you actually want something? |
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| 08:27.07 | Fisker | yeah Zarnivoop |
| 08:27.39 | Fisker | Can wintergrasp be added as pvp zone or atleast when a battle is going on? |
| 08:30.46 | Zarnivoop | possibly. I'll have to research how WG works, not being an instance. |
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| 08:38.31 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.8.3-15-gdea289b / (7 files in 3 directories): [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
| 08:38.34 | Repo | dea289b: fix text input field for trigger-icon |
| 08:38.38 | Repo | ffbdbc5: update changelog |
| 08:38.41 | Repo | 1055254: add filter for Abominable Might |
| 08:38.45 | Repo | e657fdf: fix nil-error |
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| 08:41.45 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Rabbit * r231 modules/Cooldowns.lua: |
| 08:41.49 | Repo | Shuffle the initialization around a bit so it happens a tad later. |
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| 08:43.34 | Shefki | vhaarr: I haven't looked and I don't know what you guys have done about this but I've got a couple requests when it comes to the MT list in oRA3. |
| 08:44.05 | Shefki | a) For the love of god do not bloody write it to a SV file so that if someone is offline when you change it and then comes back online they don't change it back. |
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| 08:44.42 | Shefki | b) If you do load it from a SV at least trigger an event after you have it loaded oRA2 doesn't do this and so you have to guess when it's actually loaded. |
| 08:45.19 | Shefki | c) Don't include the delay after changing it that oRA2 has for no apparent reason. I really don't get why it does it. |
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| 08:47.12 | Shefki | d) For that matter use callbacks rather than some specific frameworks private event system. |
| 08:49.09 | Shadowed | hum, Shefki |
| 08:49.17 | Shadowed | what was the issue you had in AceGUI-3.0 that was causing game crashes again? |
| 08:49.46 | Shefki | Multi-select dropdowns. |
| 08:49.53 | Fisker | i require sleep |
| 08:50.03 | Shefki | If you closed he dialog while the dropdown was still open it would crash the game. |
| 08:50.17 | Shadowed | hrm, only multi-select? |
| 08:50.31 | Shefki | It may or may not have been fixed by 3.2. And it seems to be sporadically reproduceable by some people and not others. |
| 08:50.34 | Shefki | Shadowed: Right. |
| 08:50.36 | Shadowed | well |
| 08:51.09 | Shadowed | I've had two people have SUF crash in a specific tab and nowhere else, but all I use for that tab are toggles, selects and ranges |
| 08:51.19 | vhaarr | Shefki: okay noted |
| 08:51.21 | Shadowed | but not multi selects |
| 08:52.24 | Shefki | Shadowed: Yeah mutli-selects are pretty rare, it's a pretty obscure thing in Ace3. |
| 08:53.07 | Shadowed | guess I'll have to get them to do some code editing then, whee |
| 08:53.07 | Shefki | BTW Shadowed, did you unregister UNIT_NAME_UPDATE on your GroupHeaders? |
| 08:53.09 | Shadowed | yea |
| 08:53.54 | Shefki | You see the aura tooltip bug yet? Happens with Blizzard's target frame too. |
| 08:54.16 | Shadowed | Read about it, but I haven't noticed or had reports yet |
| 08:54.39 | Shadowed | although I've had aura changes without events if it happens due to a forced aura change like leaving arenas |
| 08:54.40 | Shefki | I came up with a workaround, kinda sucks but it works. |
| 08:55.57 | Shefki | Check if the UnitAura(unit, id, filter) matches the name you expect before display the tooltip, if not iterate the auras to find it again. Doesn't matter if it's the same exact aura or not becuase the only time it happens is when they're out of range and the specific time left and what not aren't available anyway. |
| 08:55.59 | yoshimo | the new instancehub in icecrown is called The Argent Coliseum , or is the english spelling wrong? |
| 08:58.10 | Repo | 10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r96 / (3 files in 1 directory): first version |
| 08:58.28 | Shadowed | the range stuff is annoying |
| 08:58.50 | Shefki | It really shouldn't change the order of the indexes. |
| 08:59.10 | Repo | 10libsnowflake-2-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r20 / (5 files in 1 directory): prepare for patch 3.2 |
| 08:59.11 | Shadowed | the PLAYER aura filter doesn't work if the person is OOR too |
| 08:59.15 | Shadowed | if I remember right, maybe it was something else |
| 08:59.22 | Shefki | Nope that's accurate. |
| 08:59.45 | Shefki | If the person is out of range you lose the caster and expiration time returns too. |
| 09:01.52 | Shefki | It'd make sense if it didn't have that info until you came in range, but why it magically forgets stuff that it almost certainly has cached is bizzare to me. |
| 09:02.14 | Shadowed | easier to expire the cache when they go out of visible range than time it out |
| 09:02.15 | Shefki | The aura stuff is a real mess though. |
| 09:02.45 | Shefki | I haven't bothered to check if they finally fixed the return for the Enrage dispel type. |
| 09:02.55 | Shefki | Just returns "" instead of "Enrage" |
| 09:05.40 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r92 Core.lua: Minor tweaks related to talent data checks. |
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| 09:19.23 | yoshimo | can anyone think of a boss , where you need a yell to announce his death in bigwigs ? |
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| 09:39.00 | Repo | 10libsnowflake-2-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r21 / (6 files in 1 directory): prepare for patch 3.2 |
| 09:43.04 | Caleb| | !api emote |
| 09:43.04 | lua_bot | Found 8 possible results for 'emote': DemoteAssistant, CHAT_MSG_EMOTE, CHAT_MSG_RAID_BOSS_EMOTE, CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_EMOTE, CHAT_MSG_TEXT_EMOTE, DoEmote, GuildDemote, CanGuildDemote |
| 09:43.12 | Repo | 10mbb: 03s8095324 * r52 MBB.toc: MBB:- |
| 09:43.15 | Repo | - toc update |
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| 10:00.29 | Repo | 10libsnowflake-2-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r22 / (2 files in 1 directory): prepare for patch 3.2 |
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| 10:03.20 | Repo | 10jeweltips: 03s8095324 * r67 JewelTips.toc: JewelTips: |
| 10:03.23 | Repo | -updated toc to 3.2 |
| 10:06.37 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r94 / (2 files in 1 directory): another bash at fixing ominous cloud |
| 10:08.07 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat 042.0.5 * r95 : Tagging as 2.0.5 |
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| 10:11.36 | copystring | pokes Groktar |
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| 10:21.27 | yoshimo | caleb, if you aren't sure which msg-event these clouds fire, try transcriptor-ing the encounter ;) |
| 10:21.38 | Caleb| | I did that already |
| 10:21.45 | Caleb| | I figured that was not the problem |
| 10:21.55 | Caleb| | think it should be working now |
| 10:22.28 | Caleb| | got more than one transcriptor log |
| 10:22.36 | Caleb| | its just me failing as usual |
| 10:23.55 | yoshimo | ok no addon can prevent that ;) |
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| 10:53.58 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 11:19.26 | Repo | - new ui, sort of |
| 11:20.49 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.35 * r197 : Tagging as 2.2.35 |
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| 11:23.35 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r198 RaidTracker.toc: - support for 3.2 |
| 11:23.38 | Repo | - new ui, sort of |
| 11:24.38 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.36 * r199 : Tagging as 2.2.36 |
| 11:35.18 | yoshimo | notepad++ should encode files correctly with utf-8 if i set this as native format for new files , shouldnt it? |
| 11:35.33 | orionshock | yes |
| 11:36.03 | yoshimo | pre-commit hook is complaining about an incorrect encoding |
| 11:36.22 | orionshock | copy paste the 1 line error ? |
| 11:37.09 | yoshimo | File not encoded correctly for game 'wow' (allowed encodings: utf-8) |
| 11:37.49 | orionshock | resave it as utf8 |
| 11:44.40 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03yoshimo * r565 / (7 files in 2 directories): |
| 11:44.43 | Repo | Alpha-Modules for the Trial of the Champion: Eadric the Pure && The Black Knight |
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| 11:49.09 | orionshock | anyone know what the internal function is for the blizzard /dump command? |
| 11:50.20 | nevcairiel | DevTools_Dump |
| 11:50.32 | nevcairiel | in the Blizzard_DebugTools addon |
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| 11:55.17 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r270 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 11:55.20 | Repo | fix quest complete event not being dispatched when turning in quests that are disbaled. Function is hooked just dispatch the cbh callback from there instead of trying to logic the way out. |
| 11:57.18 | yoshimo | whats the difference between fetch& pull in git? |
| 11:58.27 | orionshock | yoshimo: iirc, fetch is like an svn -update where as pull don't merge files |
| 11:58.56 | SunTsu | orionshock: The other way around |
| 11:59.13 | orionshock | one or the other |
| 11:59.13 | SunTsu | orionshock: fetch only gets them, pull merges them, on top |
| 11:59.45 | SunTsu | yoshimo: you always can do git help <command> |
| 12:04.07 | orionshock | never liked git |
| 12:04.13 | orionshock | no ghetto merge if things go sideways |
| 12:07.15 | sb|work | mh vhaarr - whats the ETA for ora3 mt target sorting stuff? :p |
| 12:09.17 | Repo | 10moncaiqt: 03Moncai * r16 Core.lua: Fix typo |
| 12:09.31 | SunTsu | orionshock: No what? |
| 12:10.21 | Repo | 10moncaiqt: 03Moncai 04v0.0.7.1-beta * r17 : Tagging as v0.0.7.1 bugfix release |
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| 12:14.56 | yoshimo | what could be the reason for : Improper translation exists. "trigger_surrender" is likely misspelled for locale deDE. from the bigwigs core? |
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| 12:21.02 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r216 modules/trinketprocs.lua: More procs. |
| 12:29.25 | Repo | 10ace3: 03mikk * r823 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 12:29.28 | Repo | - Add AceComm callbacks for message chunks going out the wire (via CTL). Useful for displaying progress for very large messages. |
| 12:29.31 | Repo | - Add test cases for both delayed and immediate delivery |
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| 12:35.36 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03yoshimo * r566 Coliseum/Eadric.lua: Coliseum: Added missing placeholder for enUS-trigger |
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| 13:00.11 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2203 / (4 files in 4 directories): 10 Man Alliance Trial of the Crusader from ThyrelR |
| 13:00.36 | nevcairiel | yoshimo: easy, that string doesnt exist in the enUS locale |
| 13:00.44 | SunStealer | seriously, one of the girls at work here has the most perfect ass I have seen in months |
| 13:00.45 | nevcairiel | or is misspelled |
| 13:00.58 | nevcairiel | pictures or it didnt happen |
| 13:01.17 | yoshimo | i didnt add the trigger for enus, because i didnt know it. just committed a placeholder, so it works now |
| 13:01.28 | SunStealer | yeah, I'll whip up my dslr and ask if she can pose |
| 13:03.29 | sb|work | SunStealer: ok! |
| 13:03.50 | SunStealer | she just walked past again, quite nice cleavage too |
| 13:04.00 | SunStealer | and a law degree... ach :-P |
| 13:04.16 | sb|work | well, again what nevcairiel said! |
| 13:06.23 | steev | Maelos: there was no one there - and at most it woulda been ebon plaguebringer, except that the other person on the dummy was also a dw frost dk (it was in Acherus) |
| 13:07.08 | SunStealer | I'm thinkiong about speccing frost pve dps |
| 13:09.48 | Megalon | "login server is currently busy" hooray |
| 13:10.00 | Megalon | so they switched off login with bnet accounts again :C |
| 13:10.04 | sb|work | gnnl |
| 13:10.10 | SunStealer | good night no luck? |
| 13:10.55 | sb|work | i wonder if the new raid lockout extension stuff is responsible for the latest "too many instances" issue (because raid ids are saved for ~4 weeks now) |
| 13:11.10 | SunStealer | all raids are saved for 4 weeks?! |
| 13:11.14 | sb|work | its nearly impossible (2h of waiting/trying) to get into old instances (zul'gurub, wailing caverns, ...) |
| 13:11.20 | sb|work | well theoretically |
| 13:11.38 | sb|work | you could refresh your raid lockout after 3-4 weeks |
| 13:12.13 | SunStealer | anywho. |
| 13:12.36 | nevcairiel | cant you extend the lock just for one more week? |
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| 13:17.19 | steev | stabs NCSoft |
| 13:17.36 | steev | "This account does not currently have access to Aion" |
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| 13:19.22 | nevcairiel | steev: you have to understand how the beta of aion works |
| 13:19.27 | nevcairiel | they only unlock it during beta events |
| 13:19.35 | nevcairiel | which usually start on fridays and end on mondays |
| 13:20.09 | nevcairiel | its not all-open-playing like blizzard did it |
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| 13:21.46 | Wobin | blah |
| 13:21.54 | Wobin | well good thing I didn't try for a key |
| 13:21.59 | sb|work | nevcairiel: "The ability to reactivate an expired lock, however, will be removed after 4 weeks of inactivity (meaning, if a player does not use the instance for a month, the lock will permanently reset and cannot be reactivated)." |
| 13:22.25 | nevcairiel | you have no time on weekends, Wobin? |
| 13:22.38 | Wobin | I'd feel compelled to play |
| 13:22.54 | Wobin | and I'd prefer to have the freedom to do other stuff =) |
| 13:23.18 | Wobin | but it seems weird to only open it on the weekend like that |
| 13:23.26 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 13:24.01 | nevcairiel | they want focused testing, they wipe everything before the test, so no old chars or anything. You don't get to explore the full world and every detail of the game just yet, because of the limited time |
| 13:24.04 | nevcairiel | i think its kinda nice |
| 13:24.26 | nevcairiel | might probably change in the open beta |
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| 13:34.51 | steev | if only blizz would take some of the money used on blizzcon and dump it into more servers/admins/cs reps |
| 13:35.10 | Pneumatus | hmm, should /cast [target=focus, exists, harm, modifier:shift][] Wind Shear do what i expect |
| 13:35.42 | nevcairiel | it casts wind shear on focus if you hold shift, and your focus is an enemy |
| 13:35.45 | nevcairiel | on target otherwise |
| 13:35.47 | Pneumatus | casts windshear on focus with shift held down, else target |
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| 13:36.32 | steev | i wish i had a blizzard "emulator" so i could work on my interface when the servers go down |
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| 13:38.34 | SunTsu | steev: Blizzard emulator? No problem: "It will be done soon" *ducks and runs away* |
| 13:38.43 | steev | haha |
| 13:38.44 | Pneumatus | if the first condition isnt met, it will fall through to a normal cast on target, right? |
| 13:39.00 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 13:39.10 | nevcairiel | because of the empty condition you have there |
| 13:39.17 | Pneumatus | guess i want a nomodifier in the empty condition then |
| 13:39.39 | Pneumatus | so if i shiftmod it, it wont do anything if focus doesnt match the first condition |
| 13:45.12 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ananhaid * r567 Coliseum (3 files in 1 directory): LittleWigs: |
| 13:45.15 | Repo | - Coliseum zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 13:59.27 | Bruners | steev: there is the non etical way (private server) |
| 13:59.54 | steev | Bruners: yeah... except i don't have a private server and im not tryin to find one |
| 14:00.04 | kadrahil | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large Fisker in the nevcairiel on a rusty Wobin |
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| 14:00.22 | kadrahil | whistles and wanders off |
| 14:00.24 | steev | kadrahil: got the plate belt from ignis 25 last night :) |
| 14:00.27 | Bruners | steev: the more legal way is to have two accounts, one on US and one on EU |
| 14:00.28 | Wobin | what is this? Katamari Daci? |
| 14:00.31 | kadrahil | grats |
| 14:00.31 | ckknight | not in the nevcairiel! |
| 14:00.55 | steev | kadrahil: it was a tough call, roll for the belt, or roll for worldcarver |
| 14:01.12 | Wobin | ckknight: you'd better check your Wobin, it's apparently a bit rusty |
| 14:01.14 | kadrahil | should've taken both |
| 14:01.27 | ckknight | Wobin: I'm sure it'll be fine. |
| 14:01.35 | kadrahil | Wobin: haha |
| 14:02.22 | kadrahil | my air conditioner has been out in my apartment since yesterday |
| 14:02.23 | steev | kadrahil: im dw now :-P |
| 14:02.26 | kadrahil | cool |
| 14:03.16 | kadrahil | going to the land lords to try and get it fixed today :( |
| 14:06.42 | Repo | 10transcriptor: 03Rabbit * r109 Transcriptor.lua: |
| 14:06.45 | Repo | Add ability to ignore events. Right click LDB plugin for options. |
| 14:07.15 | kadrahil | right clicks ckknight for more options. |
| 14:07.31 | ckknight | nah, I use a mac |
| 14:07.36 | kadrahil | oh burn |
| 14:08.09 | Armor | slaps ArmorPenetration around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:08.15 | ArmorPenetration | slaps Armor around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:08.23 | ArmorPenetration | our common enemy is haste |
| 14:08.25 | ArmorPenetration | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:08.27 | Armor | yes |
| 14:08.28 | ArmorPenetration | btw ckknight |
| 14:08.29 | Armor | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:08.35 | ckknight | yes? |
| 14:08.42 | ckknight | I'm about to leave, make it quick. |
| 14:08.44 | ArmorPenetration | Can i make main assist frames? |
| 14:08.47 | ArmorPenetration | in pb4? |
| 14:08.48 | SunTsu | .o0( Fisker sees himself in legacy of Freddie Mecury? "Oh yes, I'm the great penetrator" ) |
| 14:08.56 | Armor | O.o |
| 14:10.07 | ckknight | ArmorPenetration: hmm, I think so. |
| 14:10.18 | ckknight | make a raid group, and then set its filters |
| 14:10.24 | ckknight | alright, off to work |
| 14:13.34 | steev | *sigh* |
| 14:13.50 | steev | in the middle of filling out my info for the ncsoft site and it goes down for scheduled maintenance |
| 14:16.25 | Fisker | awesomes in steev's face |
| 14:16.48 | steev | enjoys it |
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| 14:19.00 | Megalon | creates a flickr stream |
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| 14:40.33 | Fisker | hey Megalon |
| 14:40.42 | Megalon | wazzup |
| 14:40.54 | Megalon | got ya sc2beta yet? |
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| 14:44.29 | Fisker | naw |
| 14:44.46 | Megalon | nice to hear |
| 14:45.51 | nicoli_s | :( |
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| 14:56.00 | Shirik | Fisker: you can have my sc2beta |
| 14:56.04 | Shirik | lolnojk |
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| 14:57.23 | vhaarr | haha evil |
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| 15:02.13 | steev | http://wizards-sleeve.net/funny/NCC_1701.jpg |
| 15:02.41 | VonhintenHOME` | hahaha |
| 15:02.43 | VonhintenHOME` | wtf |
| 15:05.46 | nicoli_s | ill take it shirik |
| 15:05.56 | EvilJohn | that's funny |
| 15:06.32 | nicoli_s | i needs it! |
| 15:07.25 | kadrahil | are hunter pets immune to shock blast and mines on mimiron? |
| 15:08.17 | Hjalte | kadrahil: They don't trigger mines |
| 15:08.22 | kadrahil | ok |
| 15:09.34 | Wobin | I don't think they're immune to them though |
| 15:09.55 | Wobin | I'm fairly sure shock blast kills pets right off |
| 15:10.00 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r568 / (10 files in 3 directories): Tweaked some naming to conform to my level of OCD. |
| 15:10.08 | kadrahil | yeah i think shock blast kills pets, someone said it kills his imp |
| 15:10.17 | Wobin | even phased? |
| 15:10.21 | Wobin | wow |
| 15:10.25 | kadrahil | he didn't say |
| 15:10.29 | nevcairiel | probably not phased |
| 15:10.33 | nevcairiel | nothing kills phased imps |
| 15:10.45 | Wobin | pft, if they have an imp that close, for the buff, they should keep it phased =) |
| 15:10.57 | nevcairiel | i bet it was busy applying fire shield or hsit |
| 15:11.03 | kadrahil | possibly |
| 15:11.05 | Wobin | damn those imps |
| 15:11.08 | Wobin | so industrious |
| 15:11.16 | kadrahil | they should let hunter pets do damage phased out |
| 15:11.17 | kadrahil | ;) |
| 15:11.26 | kadrahil | they should also let me take my hunter to ulduar. |
| 15:11.30 | Wobin | yeah, that'd make pvp fun |
| 15:11.34 | kadrahil | haha |
| 15:11.44 | kadrahil | WHY IS ANIMALS IN MY FACE (THAT I CAN'T ATTACK LOL) |
| 15:12.12 | Wobin | I got swapped to my hunter for General Vezax |
| 15:12.19 | Wobin | so we'd have enough ranged |
| 15:12.39 | Wobin | That fight is a whole lot of zero excitement for a hunter =\ |
| 15:12.48 | kadrahil | aspect of the pack, afk |
| 15:13.00 | Wobin | I'd prefer to have come on a caster |
| 15:13.07 | Wobin | cause at least I'd have the fun of the buff |
| 15:13.13 | kadrahil | at least you don't run oom on your hunter |
| 15:13.18 | Wobin | true |
| 15:13.24 | Wobin | aotv ftw |
| 15:13.27 | kadrahil | and they fixed fel mana potions |
| 15:13.29 | Megalon | steeve: that's literaly some furry cosplay there |
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| 15:14.14 | Wobin | oh god, that poor dog |
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| 15:19.42 | kadrahil | haha check out the html source for this website -> http://www.fujinonbinos.com/ |
| 15:19.46 | kadrahil | i lol'd |
| 15:20.14 | vhaarr | font font font font font lol |
| 15:20.17 | Megalon | nesty |
| 15:20.33 | ckknight | what the fuck is that shit, kadrahil |
| 15:20.42 | kadrahil | ckknight: rofl i have no clue, my coworker just showed me |
| 15:20.52 | vhaarr | at least it's properly indented! |
| 15:20.56 | kadrahil | true! |
| 15:21.09 | Megalon | and properly intended? h3h3! |
| 15:21.15 | vhaarr | <META NAME="generator" CONTENT="Web Studio, Version 4.0 for Windows"> |
| 15:21.22 | vhaarr | now there's a product I never want to learn more about |
| 15:21.23 | kadrahil | ^ |
| 15:22.57 | Wobin | wow, that's... awesome |
| 15:23.31 | VonhintenHOME` | Web Studio, Version 4.0, Copyright © 2002-2009, Back To The Beach Software, LLC |
| 15:24.37 | Megalon | back to the beach software |
| 15:24.57 | Megalon | are those the people behind sexy beach 1-3? |
| 15:25.04 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm gonna name my company On A Boat Software |
| 15:25.15 | VonhintenHOME` | Cause I'm on a boat mothafucka! |
| 15:25.26 | Wobin | VonhintenHOME`: go go dated pop culture references? =P |
| 15:25.28 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r183 / (2 files in 2 directories): MiniPet: |
| 15:25.31 | Repo | - Fully removed soulbound check |
| 15:25.33 | Baraius | Some naive WYSIWYG I bet...like the old word perfect. There's some "hidden character" that represents a formatting element and they're not normalizing. |
| 15:25.38 | Wobin | unless you're not expecting it to last more than a year or so? |
| 15:31.28 | yoshimo | do the new events UNIT_SPELLCAST_INTERRUPTIBLE && UNIT_SPELLCAST_NOT_INTERRUPTIBLE show in the wowcombatlog.txt ? |
| 15:31.57 | Shirik | probably not |
| 15:32.02 | Shirik | it's not a combat event |
| 15:32.09 | Shirik | in fact, why am I saying probably. |
| 15:32.10 | Shirik | "no" |
| 15:34.08 | nicoli_s | he used quotes, he still has doubts |
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| 15:38.50 | aestil | so, icecrown is the next instance? |
| 15:39.19 | aestil | I thought that there was goign to be like an OK or Zuldrak raid. |
| 15:41.04 | ulic | aestil: I don't think they've official said that Icecrown will be next to be released. |
| 15:41.15 | aestil | ah. |
| 15:41.22 | aestil | mmo champion made it seem so. |
| 15:41.34 | aestil | but i guess the 'inbetween raid' could be the colliseum thing. |
| 15:41.37 | aestil | which seems lame. |
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| 15:42.24 | ulic | I don't get that from reading mmo-champion, but maybe I'm not reading what you are. |
| 15:48.22 | aestil | This is the quote of the day, in a post about tanking Ghostcrawler hinted at the amount of encounters in Icecrown Citadel, the raid instance of Patch 3.3. |
| 15:48.42 | yoshimo | 31 bosses *cough* |
| 15:48.49 | aestil | i think he was joking |
| 15:49.45 | nevcairiel | 31 would be really alot o.O |
| 15:49.48 | Megalon | BRD has 42 |
| 15:49.51 | Megalon | :P |
| 15:50.08 | Megalon | but that is with rarespawns |
| 15:50.13 | durcyn | 24 out of the 31 are horsemen that you have to bring 25 tanks to rotate through... |
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| 15:51.27 | ulic | Well they want it to be truely epic, so I wouldn't put it past them to make something so huge that it will really take days to complete :) |
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| 15:51.52 | ulic | not to mention they added this new "extend your raid lock" feature. |
| 15:51.54 | nevcairiel | combined with the new id extension |
| 15:51.57 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 15:51.58 | ulic | hehe |
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| 15:55.23 | Ghan | Is there a way to manually add line breaks to the frame AceConfigDialog creates? |
| 15:55.55 | Ghan | -3.0, that is |
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| 15:57.14 | Pneumatus | type = "description", name = "" |
| 15:59.28 | Ghan | ah, thanks :) |
| 16:00.59 | ckknight | anyone good with IIS here? |
| 16:01.29 | ckknight | I have a CGI file, hgweb.py, and if I access /hgweb.py, it works fine, but if I access /hgweb.py/anything, it 404s instead of hitting the script. |
| 16:02.35 | aestil | is the extend a raid ID feature in yet? |
| 16:02.56 | Fisker | yes |
| 16:03.07 | aestil | Hmm. |
| 16:03.09 | Fisker | i already extended the raid on your mom by a week |
| 16:03.20 | aestil | we may have to use it this week for mimiron |
| 16:04.48 | SunTsu | aestil: Just found it in the patch notes and I immediately found it quite great |
| 16:05.02 | aestil | yes, its a great option. |
| 16:05.19 | aestil | doesn't give you an extra hour on algalon though, right? |
| 16:06.06 | durcyn | i don't imagine it would |
| 16:06.50 | aestil | having not unlocked that yet, is algalon something you have to clear the whole instance to pull, or can you zone in and use your hour the first day |
| 16:07.57 | Pneumatus | you only need to kill FL and XT |
| 16:08.05 | aestil | sweet. |
| 16:08.10 | Pneumatus | as they are in the way :) |
| 16:08.14 | aestil | ty. |
| 16:08.33 | aestil | yeah, i didn't know anything about it. thought maybe you could port straight there, or maybe you had to kill yogg every week first. |
| 16:11.06 | durcyn | yogg has nothign to do with it, just hard mode keepers for the key then straight to the door if you like |
| 16:15.35 | Repo | 10gladiminish (experimental): 03ghanburighan * r5 / (5 files in 1 directory): Toc bump |
| 16:15.38 | Repo | New option to move icons |
| 16:15.41 | Repo | Some minor fixes, Thanks to Shadowed |
| 16:16.24 | Pneumatus | i wish they hadnt made the shield on the castbar to show non-interruptable casts so poor |
| 16:16.31 | Pneumatus | it doesnt even look like its positioned central |
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| 16:18.26 | zoktar | nyone here use ouf_d3orbs and or quartz? |
| 16:21.34 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r157 WotLK (3 files in 1 directory): -Fix the menu. |
| 16:21.37 | Repo | -import Jaraxxus skills |
| 16:21.40 | Repo | -add dummy file for Coliseum_Heroic(Trial of the Grand Crusader) |
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| 16:43.05 | Tuatara | Somewhere in the globalstrings or in the localized strings is there a listing of the professions? |
| 16:43.54 | nevcairiel | dont think so, no |
| 16:44.16 | vhaarr | you don't need that |
| 16:44.26 | vhaarr | Tuatara: you just GetSpellInfo on the professions spell ID |
| 16:44.33 | vhaarr | Tuatara: I have a list of them in CraftyGnome |
| 16:47.20 | Tuatara | vhaarr: why did you have to do the hack for french FA? |
| 16:47.41 | durcyn | once upon a time the tradeskill name didn't actually match the spell name |
| 16:47.44 | vhaarr | because getspellinfo returns the wrong name for it, if I remember correctly |
| 16:47.53 | vhaarr | right |
| 16:47.56 | durcyn | it might've been fixed since, that was a while back, no? |
| 16:47.58 | Caleb| | !api zone |
| 16:47.58 | lua_bot | Found 14 possible matches for 'zone'. Please be more specific |
| 16:47.59 | Ackis | vhaarr: they fixed that |
| 16:48.00 | nevcairiel | the french are just like that |
| 16:48.02 | Caleb| | !api zonetext |
| 16:48.02 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'zonetext': GetMinimapZoneText, GetSubZoneText, GetRealZoneText, GetZoneText |
| 16:48.03 | vhaarr | yes, was a long time ago |
| 16:48.05 | vhaarr | ah |
| 16:48.18 | Ackis | vhaarr: I had to do it for ARL as well, but it was reported fixed |
| 16:48.50 | Repo | 10craftygnome: 03Rabbit * r62 CraftyGnome.lua: The French fixed their fuckup. |
| 16:48.56 | Ackis | rofl |
| 16:49.00 | Ackis | ~vhaarr++ |
| 16:49.08 | zoktar | is there an easy way to ehm add a frame round quartz?, id like to add d3_targetframe.tga as a frame around quartz? |
| 16:49.28 | vhaarr | hm oops |
| 16:49.38 | durcyn | zoktar: you probably could with a kgpanels script, all of the frames should be named globals |
| 16:51.06 | zoktar | hmm, k thnx, and or, has latency feature been added in ouf castbar? =) |
| 16:52.16 | Ackis | everytime I shave it's like two whiskers get left and they annoy the hell out of me |
| 16:52.29 | Ackis | and related to that, it's never a good idea to take scissors to your face w/o a mirror |
| 16:52.46 | durcyn | takes scissors to Ackis's face |
| 16:52.52 | vhaarr | depends if you like scars or not |
| 16:52.53 | Tuatara | Anyone know the spell ID for fishing? |
| 16:53.06 | durcyn | fishing is protected |
| 16:53.07 | Ackis | vhaarr: I already have about 5 large scars on my face |
| 16:53.38 | durcyn | Tuatara: 7620, but you'll need a secure frame for fishing, disenchanting, prospecting, or milling |
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| 16:54.05 | Deftone07 | Wha's the fastest way to get gold?? |
| 16:54.15 | durcyn | buy it from china farmers, obviously |
| 16:54.52 | vhaarr | I always respond promptly and accurately to people who use more than one questionmark |
| 16:56.07 | steev | truth |
| 16:56.26 | Ackis | vhaarr: why aren't you using the localization app???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
| 16:56.31 | Ackis | (see what I did there?) |
| 16:56.32 | Deftone07 | china farmers? i'm a noob. the highest lvl toon i have is 44 |
| 16:56.37 | steev | alternately, press the "L" key (default keybindings)- there are a list of things that give gold really fast |
| 16:57.12 | vhaarr | if you're low level, the only option you have is to keep leveling |
| 16:57.19 | Deftone07 | bummer |
| 16:57.26 | steev | on the other hand |
| 16:57.29 | steev | at level 44 |
| 16:57.35 | steev | you don't NEED lots of gold |
| 16:57.41 | vhaarr | Ackis: why should I? |
| 16:57.53 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:58.20 | Ackis | my work computer is so shitty it even screws up google chrome |
| 16:58.59 | steev | thats pretty shitty |
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| 16:59.13 | Deftone07 | and wow is down for maintenance.. |
| 16:59.30 | steev | every tuesday |
| 16:59.44 | Deftone07 | it's every tuesday? |
| 17:01.21 | Mikk | every other week they tend to just reboot (downtime ~5m) |
| 17:01.42 | Deftone07 | sucks |
| 17:01.44 | Mikk | but just after a patch it has a tendency to be a "full" maintance (several hours) every tuesday morning |
| 17:01.50 | Mikk | er ok |
| 17:02.34 | yoshimo | do we know yet which new boss in the coliseum is available? |
| 17:02.48 | Mikk | being unable to play in the middle of the night one night every 14th night "sucks"... okay :p |
| 17:02.59 | vhaarr | yoshimo: jaraxxus? |
| 17:04.12 | yoshimo | i dont know, we have maintenance tomorrow |
| 17:04.25 | kadrahil | jaraxxus tonight :O |
| 17:04.27 | kadrahil | :O |
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| 17:06.50 | aestil | zune HD looks nice. |
| 17:07.45 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 17:10.40 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r97 EnsidiaFails.lua: fix shadow beacon taunt (only 3 mobs now) |
| 17:11.10 | Pneumatus | wru new zero punctuation :< |
| 17:12.12 | Pneumatus | oh, its tuesday :< |
| 17:13.53 | yoshimo | when will maintenance be over in us? |
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| 17:17.37 | Repo | 10extractor: 03Zhinjio * r37 / (6 files in 2 directories): Extractor : |
| 17:17.40 | Repo | - added translations for deDE, esES and zhTW.lua |
| 17:17.43 | Repo | - thanks xevilgrin (deDE)! |
| 17:17.43 | Caleb| | ~wowalert |
| 17:17.44 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 17:17.49 | Caleb| | do the math yoshimo :D |
| 17:18.21 | Caleb| | should be over by now I think |
| 17:19.13 | yoshimo | which timezone are they in? ;) |
| 17:19.23 | Caleb| | PDT? :D |
| 17:19.37 | andrey | hey guys, how can i setup omen to work exactly like that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6kY6JnY-8w ? |
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| 17:21.00 | Repo | 10extractor: 03Zhinjio 041.5.5-release * r38 : Tagging as 1.5.5-release |
| 17:21.13 | andrey | i dont get any bars or anything, i cant seem to make it work |
| 17:23.54 | steev | are you in combat? |
| 17:24.00 | steev | and have you tried toggling the window? |
| 17:24.14 | andrey | the test mode does work |
| 17:24.20 | andrey | and yes i tried it in instances and stuff |
| 17:24.24 | andrey | brb toc |
| 17:24.46 | steev | dunno, i use sthreatmeter |
| 17:24.49 | andrey | is there something like a 'start' butto nto make it work? :P |
| 17:25.33 | steev | if you don't have an enemy targeted you can't see how much threat you have on them |
| 17:25.41 | steev | you could try telling omen to reset to defaults |
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| 17:26.55 | andrey | steev: http://i28.tinypic.com/213gcba.jpg |
| 17:27.41 | steev | i forgot how ugly it is by default |
| 17:28.47 | Repo | 10repgain2: 03texke * r36 Factions/WOTLK.lua: Fix ticket #20 - Kirin Tor: Waterlogged Recipe |
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| 17:30.36 | Repo | 10allxp: 03Zhinjio * r32 / (3 files in 2 directories): AllXP : |
| 17:30.39 | Repo | - added frFR translation properly this time |
| 17:30.42 | Repo | - fixed logtemplate |
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| 17:39.17 | Esteth | Hi there. I'm running into problems with getting my addon to do anything. /ace list all sees it, but it doesn't do it's print on enable/initialize or anything. I'm wondering if this line in embeds.xml is to blame, since the /..\ looks somewhat weird: <Ui xmlns="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/..\FrameXML\UI.xsd"> |
| 17:43.46 | Esteth | Looking at other addons though, they appear to use exactly the same line. |
| 17:44.28 | Esteth | Nevermind, found it. As usual, stupid spelling bug. |
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| 17:44.57 | Repo | 10allxp: 03Zhinjio 041.4.3-release * r33 : Tagging as 1.4.3-release |
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| 17:50.58 | Wraanger | question: can anyone suggest me good alternative to StunWatch ? I really, REALLY don't like it ...it's ugly and works ....umm ...erratically |
| 17:59.37 | Repo | 10fu-bar_babel-fu: 03eblume * r42 .pkgmeta: FuBar_BabelFu: |
| 17:59.40 | Repo | - LibQTip now properly embedded. |
| 18:02.16 | yoshimo | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=67826 , the new engineer-butler should be added as repairbot to bw_common_auras |
| 18:02.41 | sacarasc | Jeeves sucks. |
| 18:03.39 | yoshimo | because you arent an engineer? ;) |
| 18:03.39 | sacarasc | I am, it sucks. |
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| 18:05.35 | sacarasc | To quote the blue announcing him: Additionally, he can open bank boxes for skilled engineers (350+). |
| 18:05.39 | sacarasc | That doesn't happen... |
| 18:09.29 | kenlyric_ | once every day, right? |
| 18:09.41 | sacarasc | I've not seen the option for it at all. |
| 18:10.05 | kenlyric_ | wait, is that in his tooltip? |
| 18:10.09 | kenlyric_ | or the blue post during ptr? |
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| 18:10.19 | sacarasc | Blue post during the PTR. |
| 18:10.25 | kenlyric_ | oh, you suck |
| 18:10.45 | kenlyric_ | never listen to ptr glitter |
| 18:10.45 | sacarasc | The best part of him has probably been removed. |
| 18:11.10 | sacarasc | Also, he's ugly. |
| 18:11.21 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r86 / (2 files in 2 directories): HitCrit : |
| 18:11.24 | Repo | - properly added zhTW (partial) |
| 18:11.26 | steev | *sniffle* |
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| 18:12.43 | vhaarr | yoshimo: you know, if you ping me you'll get things done faster |
| 18:12.49 | Repo | 10big-wigs_common-auras: 03Rabbit * r137 CommonAuras.lua: Add Jeeves. |
| 18:12.53 | vhaarr | yoshimo: if you just blurt it to the channel randomly, there's a chance I'll miss it |
| 18:12.59 | vhaarr | big chance, in fact |
| 18:13.06 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio 042.10.2-release * r87 : Tagging as 2.10.2-release |
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| 18:13.40 | yoshimo | vhaarr, i didnt know yet, that you are rabbit. so i apologise for that :) |
| 18:14.10 | vhaarr | oh |
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| 18:15.05 | yoshimo | if forum-username, svn.username and irc-nick arent the same, its difficult. same problem with maat/caleb |
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| 18:23.58 | durcyn | vhaarr: what are your thoughts on aura mastery in commonauras |
| 18:24.33 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2313 / (2 files in 2 directories): Add skill level info for some cooking recipes |
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| 18:29.15 | Repo | 10queeg: 03Drool * r41 / (5 files in 2 directories): - move and rename localisation.lua |
| 18:31.23 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2314 ARLFrame.lua: Another fix for the PVP flag issue. |
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| 18:32.21 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2315 ARLFrame.lua: Add a comment or two. Maybe even three. |
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| 18:35.24 | eblume | Hey all. One aspect of an addon I'm writing is that I want it to track every party and raid you are a part of. Obviously there are some difficulties involved when you encounter parties that lose members or linger for days, but let's assume some smart coding can compensate for that. |
| 18:35.46 | eblume | Is there a library which might help me track that sort of thing? I've heard of RosterLib, but it seems to be baddly out of date... or maybe not? |
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| 18:42.00 | vhaarr | durcyn: isn't it like 2min cd? |
| 18:42.32 | vhaarr | eblume: "track", how? |
| 18:42.39 | durcyn | vhaarr: i was thinking more like notify when it's used, which would only be useful for concentration aura |
| 18:43.03 | durcyn | same spellid regardless though, is the problem |
| 18:43.06 | vhaarr | durcyn: I think it'd really only be useful to tell if a paladin fucked up or not |
| 18:43.28 | vhaarr | that is, the notification is useless, except for the fact that you can see that a certain pally used it |
| 18:44.01 | vhaarr | instead of just saying "yes I'm sure I used aura mastery, must have bugged" |
| 18:44.08 | vhaarr | right? |
| 18:44.09 | eblume | vhaarr, the idea would be to have a timestamped table entry corresponding to a well-defined entity I would call a "group". How that entity is defined and distinguished from other such entities is a tricky concept that I can tackle on my own - what I'm more interested in is a library that provides a simple API that fires events when people join or leave the group - something that makes the default blizzard API a little more robust. |
| 18:45.46 | vhaarr | durcyn: in which case, if that's what you really want, you should check out my AuraToChat addon instead |
| 18:45.51 | eblume | It's my understanding that Roster used to do that, and it seems like some big AddOns still use it. Just wanted to see if there was a well-known alternative. |
| 18:46.41 | durcyn | vhaarr: fair point |
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| 18:53.00 | Caleb| | @project capping |
| 18:53.01 | Repo | Caleb|: http://www.wowace.com/addons/project-13614/. Capping. Game: WoW. Status: Deleted. Per request. totalpackage (Manager/Author). Updated: 298 days ago |
| 18:53.32 | durcyn | capping's hosted on wowi now, not cf/wowace |
| 18:55.22 | Caleb| | still not updated for 3.2 :=( |
| 18:55.25 | PProvost | Cryect: you here? |
| 18:56.52 | Repo | 10allstats: 03Zhinjio * r23 / (8 files in 2 directories): AllStats : |
| 18:56.55 | Repo | - properly added all translations (long overdue) |
| 18:56.58 | Repo | - added logtemplate |
| 18:58.25 | Repo | 10allstats: 03Zhinjio 041.2.6-release * r24 : Tagging as 1.2.6-release |
| 18:58.54 | Repo | 10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow * r125 / (4 files in 1 directory): Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
| 18:58.57 | Repo | - quick fix for 3.2 |
| 18:59.29 | Shadowed | huh |
| 18:59.38 | Shadowed | didn't know capping moved |
| 18:59.53 | durcyn | Caleb|: it is |
| 19:00.12 | durcyn | svn://svn.wowinterface.com/Capping-299/trunk/Capping |
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| 19:01.08 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2316 RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua: All cooking skill levels added |
| 19:01.11 | dafi | hi, could anyone help me out with some LuaTexts problems? |
| 19:01.19 | Caleb| | ohh idd |
| 19:02.32 | Repo | 10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow 043.2 * r126 : Tagging as 3.2 |
| 19:02.37 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r265 YurrCombatLog.toc: - toc version 0.72 |
| 19:02.58 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring 04v0.72 * r266 : Tagging as v0.72 |
| 19:03.11 | dafi | i'm trying to get a * after the name if DND is on http://paste.wowace.com/950/ |
| 19:03.32 | dafi | i think i might have hit a bug or i'm doing something silly :\ |
| 19:03.54 | yoshimo | durcyn, capping still syncs to curse |
| 19:04.24 | yoshimo | although comments are only allowed on wowinterface |
| 19:05.22 | durcyn | yoshimo: SCM or GTFO =P |
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| 19:10.03 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r217 modules/druidprocs.lua: Added Nature's Grace |
| 19:11.29 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2317 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:11.32 | Repo | Move some of the debug processing from the live client to the dataminer. Skill levels and expansion info will now be checked when you do a database scan. |
| 19:11.39 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1209 / (4 files in 1 directory): Removed old translations. |
| 19:13.49 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2318 ARLDatamine.lua: |
| 19:13.52 | Repo | Move that debug code from the database scan to specific recipe scan, it makes more sense to go there. |
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| 19:16.15 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2319 ARLDatamine.lua: |
| 19:16.19 | Repo | Move the tooltip hide code in the miner from at the end of the function where it'll never be called to just before we actually return the values. |
| 19:16.23 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1210 Grid.toc: Prepare for tag. |
| 19:17.51 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 041.30200.2009081101 * r1211 : Tag for release. Mostly just translation fixes. |
| 19:21.24 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r187 / (12 files in 1 directory): |
| 19:21.27 | Repo | fix error when switching achievement tracker in quests tracker |
| 19:21.31 | Repo | add multi player completed daily quest tracking in daily quest ldb tooltip |
| 19:21.34 | Repo | make the tag system cross language and should work with all raid tag |
| 19:21.37 | Repo | few other bug fixes |
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| 19:22.48 | PProvost | Cryect: when you get this, can you tag BigBrother? I've tested in 3.2 and updated the TOC. Thanks |
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| 19:24.38 | Repo | 10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow * r127 QuestLogPatch.lua: Cartographer_QuestInfo: |
| 19:24.41 | Repo | - fix obj button |
| 19:25.43 | Repo | 10cartographer_quest-info: 03lahow 043.2.0.1 * r128 : tagging as 3.2.0.1 |
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| 19:32.52 | steev | whats the /command to open a ticket |
| 19:32.59 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.06 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03yoshimo * r569 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added Module for Paletress |
| 19:33.30 | steev | f'n blizzard just completely blew my ticket off because i was afk |
| 19:33.55 | Caleb| | ./gm |
| 19:35.12 | Fisker | i blew you off steev |
| 19:35.20 | steev | Fisker: s/off// |
| 19:35.28 | Fisker | Tried looking in your mailbox? |
| 19:35.48 | steev | the mailbox won't have anything but, hi! check your out of game mail, sorry for the inconvenience |
| 19:36.07 | steev | "raids have been reset already, sorry you missed a week of raiding because we couldn't respond" |
| 19:36.29 | Fisker | :3 |
| 19:36.30 | NeoTron | steev: get Golden Ticket and click on the icon :P |
| 19:37.36 | steev | I do apologize for the long wait, we have been very busy with the new patch and trying to get to every issue as quickly as possible. Unfortunately since the Raids have reset for the week we were unable to address this issue. I do apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Thank you for your time |
| 19:37.51 | NeoTron | sounds fair enough |
| 19:37.55 | steev | no |
| 19:38.06 | steev | they need to refund the f'n 50g i spent on respeccing to go into the raid |
| 19:38.50 | Fisker | lawl |
| 19:38.57 | Fisker | even if they had answered on time they wouldn't have done that |
| 19:39.06 | Fisker | on time = in time |
| 19:39.22 | steev | considering they can read chats, and they have logs - they can see that i joined a raid, got asked to respec, went and respecced, and then got saved to a different raid id than the rest of the raid was in |
| 19:39.30 | durcyn | steev: you want what, a cookie |
| 19:40.09 | steev | *shrug* if they can't, i can walk |
| 19:40.19 | Fisker | They can |
| 19:40.24 | Fisker | they'll still not give you 50 gold |
| 19:40.39 | steev | thats fine, they lose 45 dollars a month |
| 19:40.46 | steev | small beans, but im happy |
| 19:40.54 | durcyn | don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out |
| 19:41.07 | ulic | so, what's the best way to put out a release version without all the new code going out, example I want to release a LittleWigs that won't conflict with BigWigs Anub'arak module, but I don't want to ship the new Trial stuff yet. Branch it, fix it, tag the branch? |
| 19:41.39 | nicoli_s | you pay 45 a month for yer acct steev? |
| 19:41.49 | ulic | obviously I'd have to branch from a previous revision. |
| 19:41.56 | Fisker | yeah nicoli_s he's paying the "sucker" rate |
| 19:41.57 | Fisker | :D |
| 19:42.02 | durcyn | ulic: delete trial, tag it, revert deletion |
| 19:43.15 | pompy | I tried to add that debuff in the new raid "Paralytic Toxin" to grid, but I never saw it show up on ppls frames when they got it, and i get this error: [2009/08/11 00:31:21-1655-x62]: Grid-1.30100.2009041601\GridStatusAuras.lua:716: Usage: UnitGUID("unit") |
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| 19:46.47 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r570 Dragonblight/Anub'arak.lua: Make LW Anub and BW Anub not conflict |
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| 19:48.14 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03yoshimo * r571 Icecrown/Argent_Confessor_Paletress.lua: fixed a typo in the options |
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| 19:53.17 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r572 / (3 files in 2 directories): Temporarily remove Icecrown modules |
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| 19:55.19 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic 04v3.2.1 * r573 : Tagging as v3.2.1 |
| 19:55.22 | Repo | - Fixed Anub'arak conflict with BigWigs module |
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| 19:58.50 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r574 / (3 files in 2 directories): Restore Icecrown modules |
| 19:59.07 | ulic | and hopefully all is right with the world again. |
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| 20:00.52 | Torhal | nicoli_s: Three accounts == $45 |
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| 20:04.47 | andrey | steev you there? |
| 20:05.07 | andrey | I got omen working now :> altho i still dont really know how to make it look exactly as in that video |
| 20:05.15 | andrey | without any background |
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| 20:06.09 | steev | start playing with the config |
| 20:06.28 | nevcairiel | cant you change the alpha of the background? |
| 20:06.32 | nevcairiel | that would make it disappear |
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| 20:15.13 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03NevetsNeirbo * r145 / (5 files in 1 directory): Added functionality for Second Auction Shroud loot system. |
| 20:15.16 | Repo | Still working out some bugs, and functionality for tracking players outside raid and awarding DKP. |
| 20:15.19 | Fisker | Kaelten btw |
| 20:15.20 | Fisker | >:3 |
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| 20:17.51 | kenlyric_ | IMANG thread at penny arcade goes to day #2 |
| 20:17.59 | kenlyric_ | uhh, this doesn't go here |
| 20:19.38 | Kaelten | Fisker btw |
| 20:19.39 | Kaelten | [[self mutableArrayValueForKey:@"projectInstalls"] removeObjectsInArray:[matches objectsAtIndexes:[NSIndexSet indexSetWithIndexesInRange:NSMakeRange(1, [matches count] - 1)]]]; |
| 20:20.10 | nevcairiel | i so hate that syntax |
| 20:20.37 | Kaelten | yeah that's my line of evil atm |
| 20:21.24 | nevcairiel | i mean, i get what it does and how and all, i just don't like it =P |
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| 20:26.50 | yoshimo | 8/11 12:03:05.000 UNIT_DIED,0x0000000000000000,nil,0x80000000,0xF130008A7B000835,"Der Schwarze Ritter",0xa48 ;whats the last argument of unit_died? this "0xa48" ? |
| 20:28.31 | durcyn | affiliation mask iirc |
| 20:28.36 | nevcairiel | the flags of the unit |
| 20:28.40 | durcyn | UNIT_REACTION etc |
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| 20:29.45 | durcyn | http://www.wowiki.com/UnitFlag |
| 20:29.49 | Megalon | yea, its flags |
| 20:30.03 | yoshimo | typo durcyn ;) |
| 20:30.04 | Megalon | guid, name, flags, guid, name, flags |
| 20:30.09 | durcyn | yoshimo: feck |
| 20:30.14 | Megalon | first three are always the source, later three target |
| 20:31.21 | yoshimo | what you gave me ,is advertisment for penis enlargement.. not exactly what i wanted :) |
| 20:31.43 | vhaarr | forgot a 'w' there durcyn :P |
| 20:32.07 | durcyn | vhaarr: i noticed |
| 20:32.17 | Megalon | yoshimo: just well-meant from durcyn ;( |
| 20:32.21 | durcyn | fucking typo squatters |
| 20:32.31 | durcyn | yoshimo: also, you really could use a larger penis |
| 20:32.32 | ulic | yoshimo: I wonder if the "UnitFlag" got you those ads, if it's always those ads :) |
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| 20:44.16 | Fisker | Kaelten btw |
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| 20:58.34 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2204 Modules/Crafting/crafting.lua: Fixed a bug in wotlk smithing |
| 21:00.59 | andrey | ive tried to make omen without any background i cant :s |
| 21:01.22 | Repo | 10libsnowflake-2-0 (experimental): 03Grayal * r26 / (6 files in 1 directory): prepare for patch 3.2 |
| 21:04.43 | steev | andrey: omen 3.0.8 - on the main page of the addon screen for it - scroll down - Background texture <none> Border Texture <none> should do it |
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| 21:12.17 | kadrahil | jaraxxus tonight, hmm |
| 21:12.29 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2205 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fixed bugs with the ToCrusader loot |
| 21:13.17 | Archarodim | I have question about the Repositories/Repository keyword substitutions: |
| 21:13.29 | Archarodim | How does the debug keywords work? |
| 21:13.47 | Archarodim | --@debug@ and --@end-debug@ |
| 21:15.59 | Shefki | debug means non-packaged builds. |
| 21:16.06 | Shefki | I.E. checkouts from the repo. |
| 21:17.08 | Archarodim | the code is just commented-out when a package is built? |
| 21:17.13 | End | yup |
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| 21:23.32 | Repo | 10libincomingheals-1-0 (experimental): 03Shadowed 07master * 3409dac / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +2 commits] |
| 21:23.35 | Repo | 3409dac: Updated .pkgmeta |
| 21:23.38 | Repo | 1b19159: - Still playing around with this, but the basic aura modifier, glyph and spell caching should be working fine. Pretty sure I have the code for identifying units a spell was cast on by GUID is working too |
| 21:24.21 | Archarodim | ok thanks for your help :) |
| 21:24.48 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 21:24.58 | Stanzilla | Shadowed: no more fighting with xbeeps? :P |
| 21:25.10 | Shadowed | Stanzilla easier to replace bad code than fight it |
| 21:25.31 | Shadowed | after looking at LHC, it's a bit inaccurate in general and easier to rewrite it than try and patch everything :p |
| 21:25.32 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 21:25.58 | Shadowed | if gist hadn't died could actually make a topic about it |
| 21:27.04 | durcyn | Shadowed: i thought CLEU hid SPELL_CAST_START targets for pvp reasons? |
| 21:27.14 | Shadowed | not using the combat log durcyn |
| 21:27.29 | durcyn | do go on |
| 21:27.36 | Shadowed | using a mix of magic and ducktape |
| 21:27.59 | durcyn | you're going to make me check the damn thing out, aren't you |
| 21:28.07 | Shadowed | no I was just pulling the code up :p |
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| 21:28.30 | Shadowed | basically the client knows who you are casting on by unitid at one point in time or another within ~0.01 seconds before or after UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT fires |
| 21:28.33 | Shefki | durcyn: The caster is the one figuring out, so what he's doing doesn't really help PVPers. |
| 21:28.50 | Shadowed | with a mix of hooking different cast functions you can figure out the unitid, and from that the GUID |
| 21:29.10 | durcyn | no, i get that, i'd just like to know what you're doing so i can rip it off to fix quartz's target identification for click-casting and macro targets |
| 21:29.21 | Shadowed | macro targets? |
| 21:29.32 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.33 | durcyn | is valid. |
| 21:30.12 | Shadowed | you'd have to look at the code to get specifics but, CastSpellByName/CastSpellByID are called when you use /cast |
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| 21:30.23 | Shadowed | click casting calls SpellTargetUnit when it casts a spell |
| 21:30.36 | Shadowed | when a spells waiting for a cast and you use a key binding like F1 it calls TargetUnit |
| 21:31.02 | Shadowed | Need to test it more, but it's pretty simple it's only around 70-90 lines |
| 21:35.53 | yoshimo | shadowed , youre writing your own replacement for libhealcomm? ;) |
| 21:37.27 | the-golem | Hi all |
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| 21:37.54 | yoshimo | hi |
| 21:40.34 | Shadowed | yea yoshimo |
| 21:41.56 | Pneumatus | all because it sends a version number on login? |
| 21:42.17 | Shefki | Pneumatus: There are other reasons to desire a replacement of LHC. |
| 21:42.22 | Shadowed | what Shefki said |
| 21:42.27 | Pneumatus | such as? |
| 21:42.40 | Shadowed | the API in general is ugly and it's not really made for what people use it for which is unit/raid frames |
| 21:42.40 | Shefki | a) It doesn't deal with distinguishing identically named units. |
| 21:42.44 | Shadowed | that |
| 21:42.55 | Shefki | b) The API is overly complicated for what most people really want. |
| 21:42.59 | Shadowed | the healing modifier code is flawed because it uses UNIT_AURA instead of spellIDs |
| 21:43.02 | Shefki | c) It doesn't deal with HoTs. |
| 21:43.14 | Shadowed | also I'm less of an asshole about stupid stuff in the code! |
| 21:43.24 | the-golem | Shadowed: Nice unitframes, good work really :-) |
| 21:43.27 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 21:43.48 | Shadowed | I look at it this way, if he's this stubborn about removing version code that the core library doesn't need. I don't think he's going to take rewriting sections of his code very well either :p |
| 21:44.11 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r575 Icecrown (4 files in 1 directory): ruRU added |
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| 21:46.47 | Pneumatus | have you spoken with other UF authors to see if they consider it a problem? |
| 21:46.50 | Pneumatus | or is it just you? |
| 21:47.04 | Shadowed | Shefki, haste doesn't care as long as someone else does the work for him |
| 21:47.25 | Shadowed | writing a plugin for PerfectRaid is easy enough since I did the original LHC one for it |
| 21:47.57 | Shadowed | and even if someone considers it a problem, theres no other alternative |
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| 21:49.41 | Pneumatus | and Grid, seeing as pasta doesnt play WoW anymore |
| 21:49.44 | Shefki | Pneumatus: I consider myself a unit frame author. I'd say it's worthwhile work if he fixes the stuff I mentioned earlier. |
| 21:49.57 | Shadowed | Grid wouldn't be too bad to patch but |
| 21:49.57 | Pneumatus | and Grid2 is nowhere near usable |
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| 21:50.42 | Shadowed | the overall API isn't too different from LHC, odds are the code you used in LHC can be used in IncomingHeals without too much work |
| 21:51.08 | Pneumatus | showing HoTs on incoming heals would make no sense though |
| 21:51.14 | Shadowed | sure it would |
| 21:51.22 | Shefki | Why not? |
| 21:51.33 | Shadowed | If you want to see the incoming heals in the next 5 seconds, theres no difference between the heal that lands in 2s for 5000 and the hot that ticks in 2s for 2000 |
| 21:51.38 | Pneumatus | because incoming heals will just be a full bar, constantly |
| 21:51.52 | Shadowed | keep in mind what you're showing is a small time period not the entire hot period |
| 21:51.59 | Shadowed | You would see total healing incoming within the next 5 seconds |
| 21:52.25 | Pneumatus | why would the window be as big as 5 seconds, no single target heal takes that long to cast |
| 21:52.36 | Shadowed | ... because I'm making up a number |
| 21:53.24 | Pneumatus | it should be every pending tick, if you're gonna do |
| 21:53.30 | Pneumatus | in which case, its gonna be spammy |
| 21:53.41 | Shadowed | which is what I just said |
| 21:54.02 | Shadowed | Casted heal that lands in 2s for 5,000 vs a HoT that ticks in 2s for 2,000 are functionally the same in terms of healing |
| 21:54.40 | Shefki | Actually the hot is better becuase you uget half of it in the first second. |
| 21:54.43 | Pneumatus | if you're going to send a message for every tick of every HoT, its gonna be seriously spammy. |
| 21:54.54 | Shefki | Why would he need to send a message for every tick. |
| 21:54.54 | steev | hah |
| 21:54.57 | Pneumatus | with a couple of druids in a raid, it will be stupid amounts of data |
| 21:54.58 | steev | craigslist is awesome |
| 21:55.16 | Shadowed | the only hot with a variable amount is WG and even that is static it just requires sending 7 numbers instead of 1 |
| 21:55.29 | Shefki | All he needs to do is send a message whent he hot is cast so he can know the healing modifiers for the hot. |
| 21:55.58 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03StingerSoft * r318 locale-ruRU.lua: TradeskillInfo: |
| 21:56.01 | Repo | - ruRU update |
| 21:56.14 | Shefki | The only reason LibHealComm has to be driven by the casters is there's no way to know the target of someone elses cast until it's done. |
| 21:56.27 | Shefki | Otherwise everything could be done on the end users side. |
| 21:56.28 | Pneumatus | you're talking about 1 addon message every GCD |
| 21:56.31 | Pneumatus | per druid |
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| 21:56.38 | Shadowed | uh |
| 21:56.47 | Shadowed | you realize that it's basically what LHC already does on any fight with spam healing? |
| 21:56.58 | Shefki | In a world (say it in a movie voice) where people can already haste down to 1 second direct heals how is this any different? |
| 21:57.00 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2320 / (2 files in 1 directory): Enable changelog. |
| 21:57.04 | Pneumatus | except direct heals arent on GCD for the most part |
| 21:57.10 | Shadowed | ... ? |
| 21:57.13 | Shefki | Like hell they aren't. |
| 21:57.20 | yoshimo | shefki, if we knew the target , it would help a lot-, did anyone suggest this on the us.forums yet? ;) |
| 21:57.29 | Shadowed | it won't happen |
| 21:57.39 | Shefki | yoshimo: There are PVP reasons not to. |
| 21:57.42 | Shadowed | they're not going to give us target info for PVP reasons unless they hide it for friendlies only |
| 21:57.43 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03StingerSoft * r265 locales/ruRU.lua: - ruRU update |
| 21:57.55 | Shadowed | The difference between a HoT and something that casts quickly like Flash of Light or Flash Heal is about 0.10-0.20 seconds |
| 21:58.16 | Shadowed | and the difference between Holy Light and a HoT GCD is maybe 0.50s-0.80s depending on haste buffs |
| 21:59.26 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 043.2Beta1 * r2321 : Tagging as 3.2 Beta 1 |
| 21:59.53 | Shadowed | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=285487#post285487 that's roughly what the API/events would look like |
| 22:00.31 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2322 .pkgmeta: Changelog OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 22:01.01 | yoshimo | thats what i was thinking, you could enhance it for group members and stop it from being available to your enemies |
| 22:01.15 | Pneumatus | if you get a spellpower proc with an active HoT, does the HoT get modified? |
| 22:01.20 | Shadowed | no |
| 22:01.25 | Shadowed | HoT fail is determined at cast |
| 22:01.28 | Shadowed | s/fail/value/ |
| 22:02.07 | Shadowed | It used to be that HoT value was determined by the spell power when it was first cast, but it's now based off of cast |
| 22:02.19 | Shefki | With the exception of a few things that can impact already cast hots. |
| 22:02.23 | Shefki | Like Tree of LIfe. |
| 22:02.27 | Pneumatus | and how do you plan to deal with Divine Hymn? |
| 22:02.33 | Shadowed | same way you deal with everything else |
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| 22:03.02 | Shadowed | you send the base value minus buffs and debuffs, then you have each user of the library keep track of buffs/debuffs, if they change you trigger an event that says the modifier changed |
| 22:03.10 | Shefki | Things that say that they impact incomign healing actually change already cast things. |
| 22:03.19 | Shefki | But those things don't change often and are pretty easy to deal with. |
| 22:03.21 | Shadowed | yea, but those are done after the heaing amount is calculated |
| 22:04.21 | Shadowed | a HoT that ticks for 2,000 always ticks for that amount then it adds modifiers |
| 22:04.21 | Pneumatus | if a priest has illustration, and casts divine hymn at 0 stacks, each heal charges illustration and modifies the heal amount |
| 22:05.19 | Shadowed | you can't actually handle Divine Hymn so it's irrelevant |
| 22:05.49 | Pneumatus | sure you can, you know which the lowest HP members are at any one time |
| 22:06.10 | Shadowed | It requires checking who is in range at each tick, then checking health at each tick of those in range |
| 22:06.19 | Shadowed | it's a lot of extra work for a single spell with a 10 minute cooldown |
| 22:07.22 | the-golem | I need a bagnon that can use sharedmedia borders :-/ |
| 22:07.37 | Tuller | bah |
| 22:07.52 | Axodious | that would be hot |
| 22:08.08 | Axodious | roth borders |
| 22:08.09 | Axodious | mmm |
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| 22:15.02 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r576 Icecrown (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:15.05 | Repo | - Added comments to encourage translators to update the web translations |
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| 22:15.59 | the-golem | lol, sorry Tuller, that wasn't really a request. I'm just miffed that my kgpanel doesn't remember its size 70% of the time |
| 22:16.32 | Tuller | err, I wasn't angry :P |
| 22:17.24 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.30 | Stanzilla | http://www.snotr.com/video/2946 < awesome |
| 22:23.23 | Megalon | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1918118 |
| 22:23.26 | Megalon | also awesome ;> |
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| 22:26.36 | Pneumatus | Shadowed: how will using CLEU and its huge overhead be better than using UNIT_AURA for working out modifiers? |
| 22:26.56 | Shadowed | CLEU is hardly huge overhead |
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| 22:27.37 | Pneumatus | what extra info are you going to get from CLEU which isnt already sent in UNIT_AURA? |
| 22:27.56 | Shadowed | did you even read the post :< |
| 22:28.02 | Shadowed | CLEU has spellIDs, UNIT_AURA doesn't |
| 22:28.22 | Shadowed | there are a number of spells that have to be monitored via spellIDs instead of names or you can get inaccurate data |
| 22:29.52 | Pneumatus | LHC uses ids |
| 22:30.16 | Shadowed | No it doesn't, LHC uses spellIDs to get spellNames so they are local independant |
| 22:32.55 | Pneumatus | when is it a problem then? |
| 22:33.01 | FtH|Daemona | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/19110297535-general-vezax-encounter-changes.html |
| 22:33.07 | Pneumatus | that you have two buffs/debuffs with the same name on you |
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| 22:34.42 | Shadowed | Pretty much anything with the same name but a variable MS |
| 22:34.59 | Pneumatus | such as? |
| 22:35.21 | Shadowed | Necrotic Poison and Unrelenting Assault are two so far |
| 22:35.27 | Shadowed | haven't done another pass yet on MS debuffs |
| 22:36.27 | Shadowed | also means you only recalculate modifiers when it actually changes |
| 22:36.43 | Shadowed | UNIT_AURA is an annoying event in general |
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| 22:43.08 | Fisker | locks Kaelten in a closet |
| 22:44.57 | Megalon | puts Fisker in that closet too |
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| 22:47.14 | yoshimo | shadowed, your lib isnt the same as the one i already added to addonspamfu ages ago , is it? IHL = "IncomingHealsLib-1.0", |
| 22:47.25 | yoshimo | sounds very similar |
| 22:47.29 | Shadowed | IncomingHeals was an old lbirary a while ago I guess |
| 22:47.34 | Shadowed | library even |
| 22:47.42 | Shadowed | although it must have been depecrated as I've not heard about it and it's not listed when searching |
| 22:47.55 | kadrahil | sigh |
| 22:48.02 | kadrahil | wow keeps crashing as soon as teh world loads |
| 22:48.09 | Archarodim | is it normal for cartographer 3 to use ~10% of CPU? |
| 22:48.22 | Shadowed | prefix would be LIH10 yoshimo |
| 22:48.29 | PProvost_ | kadrahil: mine did that the other day and I had to replace my data directory from a backup |
| 22:48.34 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowace.com/addons/project-1606/ |
| 22:48.42 | Pneumatus | uses an "IncomingHealsLib-1.0" |
| 22:48.43 | kadrahil | PProvost_: interesting |
| 22:48.47 | Shadowed | yea last updated almost a year ago |
| 22:48.50 | Shadowed | and listed as abandoned :p |
| 22:49.02 | yoshimo | libhealcomm should be the successor to ihl i think , which might be replaced bei shadoweds lib ;) |
| 22:49.16 | Pneumatus | aha http://www.wowace.com/addons/project-14199/ |
| 22:49.18 | Pneumatus | there it is |
| 22:49.28 | Archarodim | argh no replacement I presume? |
| 22:49.32 | PProvost_ | Is LibHealComm broken? |
| 22:49.40 | PProvost_ | Or just don't like it |
| 22:49.41 | PProvost_ | ? |
| 22:49.42 | Shadowed | just can be done better |
| 22:49.45 | kadrahil | PProvost_: is there anything else i can do since i didn't save any backups of the data directory? i disabled all my addons, restarted my computer, deleted the cache directory.. |
| 22:50.06 | PProvost_ | kadrahil: no idea. I always have a backup of my whole wowdir, so... |
| 22:50.12 | kadrahil | hm :( |
| 22:50.12 | PProvost_ | you can run repair.exe i suppose |
| 22:50.14 | kadrahil | ok |
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| 22:50.40 | kadrahil | yeah i forgot about that |
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| 23:01.16 | Pneumatus | hmm, i wonder if the guy rewriting SmartRes is actually gonna commit anything any time soon :M |
| 23:02.29 | Archarodim | so noone noticed that cartograoher 3 is using 10% of cpu even when not displayed? |
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| 23:06.20 | Pneumatus | Shadowed: how would swiftmend work? |
| 23:06.34 | Shadowed | ... ? |
| 23:06.37 | Shadowed | It's an instant cast heal |
| 23:06.59 | Pneumatus | it eats a HoT though |
| 23:07.12 | Shadowed | Not always |
| 23:07.17 | Pneumatus | unglyphed, anyway |
| 23:07.25 | Pneumatus | how would you cancel a specific HoT? |
| 23:07.27 | Shadowed | and it fires the same events as auras fading anyway |
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| 23:07.40 | Shadowed | Fire the event saying this ended |
| 23:08.49 | Pneumatus | IncomingHeal_HotFinished? |
| 23:08.55 | Shadowed | yes |
| 23:09.27 | Pneumatus | your forum post doesnt indicate any specific HoT removal, just a hot, on a specific target |
| 23:09.42 | Shadowed | "HoT that the casterGUID had up on the vararg is finished" |
| 23:10.01 | Shadowed | finished is finished regardless of it faded naturally, was dispelled, was consumned by another spell or the user clicked it off |
| 23:10.01 | Pneumatus | yes, any if the caster has mutiple hots on the target, which one was removed? |
| 23:10.07 | Pneumatus | *and |
| 23:10.11 | Shadowed | the one from the casterGUID... |
| 23:10.53 | Pneumatus | the casterGUID can place many hots on a single targetGUID |
| 23:11.04 | Shadowed | uh |
| 23:11.19 | Shadowed | You can only place one HOT per a GCD |
| 23:11.33 | Pneumatus | yes |
| 23:11.34 | Shadowed | well one hot spell per a GCD, which might place a unique HOT on multiple people |
| 23:11.44 | Antiarc | What if |
| 23:11.47 | Antiarc | I am a paladin |
| 23:11.49 | Antiarc | And I use Flash of Light |
| 23:11.53 | Antiarc | And it procs its HOT |
| 23:11.55 | Antiarc | And then |
| 23:11.59 | Antiarc | That trinket that procs HOTs procs |
| 23:12.04 | Antiarc | And I get 2 HOTs in one GCD |
| 23:12.22 | Shadowed | I'm going to beat you come Blizzcon Antiarc |
| 23:12.24 | Pneumatus | so, druid casts regrowth, which sends a HealStarted() on the cast, and then HotStarted() when the cast is over |
| 23:12.30 | Pneumatus | then the druid casts a rejuve |
| 23:12.31 | Shadowed | pretty mch |
| 23:12.32 | Shadowed | much* |
| 23:12.40 | Pneumatus | so another HotStarted() is sent |
| 23:12.50 | Shadowed | Odds are I'm not going to support every single hot available and the primary ones |
| 23:12.53 | Pneumatus | and then he swiftmends, with 2 active hots, and it eats one of them |
| 23:13.12 | Shadowed | yes |
| 23:13.14 | Pneumatus | you send a HotFinished() |
| 23:13.17 | Shadowed | yup |
| 23:13.17 | Pneumatus | which hot finished? |
| 23:13.21 | Shadowed | the one that faded |
| 23:13.46 | Shadowed | Remember theres zero difference (combat log wise) between a HOT that fades from another spell using it and a HOT that fades because it ran out |
| 23:13.47 | taleden | that's like getting an OnEvent from WOW with no first arg |
| 23:13.50 | taleden | "but, which event fired?" |
| 23:13.52 | taleden | "the event that fired." |
| 23:14.05 | Shadowed | oh I see what you're saying |
| 23:14.14 | Shadowed | you mean the fact that HotFinished doesn't pass the spell name that faded? |
| 23:14.20 | Pneumatus | yes |
| 23:14.31 | Shadowed | It's not really necessary information, the events are more to tell you that you need to redraw your healing bar |
| 23:15.02 | Shadowed | even LHC doesn't pass what spell was cast/ended |
| 23:15.18 | Pneumatus | because it doesnt need to, because it doesnt handle hots :P |
| 23:15.27 | Shadowed | it doesn't matter |
| 23:15.36 | Shadowed | why do you need to know what hot was cast/faded? |
| 23:16.11 | Shadowed | If It's something that makes sense I don't mind passing the spell name... but nobody really uses it. UFs use the events to redraw the bar mostly |
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| 23:16.44 | Pneumatus | in that case then, why would you need to know the casterGUID? |
| 23:16.54 | Pneumatus | surely you just need the targetguid's to refresh |
| 23:17.29 | Pneumatus | same with HotStarted |
| 23:17.34 | Shadowed | For hots? Probably not that needed |
| 23:19.26 | Shadowed | maybe for being able to see the amount of healing incoming in the highest hot tick or something, but I can't think of any specific reason |
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