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00:51.40 | NeoTron | lol at the person getting a Green proto drake on the PTR |
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00:52.11 | Hjalte | It's happening all the time. Sucks to be them, though. |
00:52.21 | NeoTron | I have two on live |
00:52.28 | NeoTron | (on two different characters) |
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02:27.26 | ckknight | what's the point of doing anal [spell]? |
02:28.02 | drweird | i think it has some sort of magical power that is greated than [Warp Slicer] was or [The Knicker] |
02:28.08 | drweird | greater* |
02:31.12 | wallen | Michael Jackson [For the Children] |
02:33.46 | SqueeG | because you can do amusing combinations i suppose |
02:33.54 | SqueeG | like anal [pummel] |
02:34.39 | SqueeG | anal [curse of exhaustion] yada yada |
02:34.42 | SqueeG | ahahahaha |
02:34.47 | SqueeG | niiiiight~ |
02:39.39 | Torhal | ckknight: Because people are idiots? |
02:41.21 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2183 AckisRecipeList.toc: Null commit to update localization application. |
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03:22.46 | Repo | -added SKall option for % of member DKP to take on win (for Celebros) |
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04:08.38 | Lukian | tickles Zeksie |
04:09.22 | Lukian | Zeksie, is there a "lock frame" option for BuffTehRaid single buff frames? |
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04:42.18 | Repo | 10volumizer: 03Torhal * r40 Volumizer.lua: |
04:42.21 | Repo | Made the panel draggable for the hell of it - doesn't save position. |
04:42.24 | Repo | Clicking the LDB icon will now mute/unmute all sound. |
04:44.03 | Repo | 10volumizer: 03Torhal 043.1.3-1.1.4 * r41 : Tagging as 3.1.3-1.1.4 |
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05:14.14 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2_beta1 / (6 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] - In order to prevent accidental menu opening, the MUF window handle will only react when you release the mouse button. |
05:14.19 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 042.4.2_beta1 * 950c589 /: [new tag] Tagging as 2.4.2_beta1 |
05:15.53 | pakoz | mm anyone have an HoN beta key? |
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05:30.40 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pet-time-to-live/. PetTimeToLive. mitch0 (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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06:19.40 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2_beta1-2-g7208f6e / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] - The same as the previous commit without the syntax error :-/ |
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06:47.00 | vithos | http://i39.tinypic.com/ac98bq.jpg 2 achievements you probably don't see together often :D |
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06:50.53 | Shefki | vithos: You'd be surprised. |
06:51.23 | vithos | i wouldn't know actually, i've been 80 for a week. that's just what my friends said |
06:51.29 | Megalon | firefighter + not so friendly fire |
06:51.35 | Megalon | would be :D |
06:52.23 | Shefki | vithos: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Garrosh&cn=Woz&gn=Contempt |
06:52.29 | Shefki | Level 80: 06-26-2009 |
06:52.59 | vithos | haha |
06:53.00 | Shefki | Antechamber: 07-01, Firefighter: 07-01 |
06:53.14 | Shefki | And he got more tonight he just hasn't logged yet. |
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06:53.33 | vithos | i hit 80 that same day |
06:53.51 | vithos | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Moonrunner&cn=Vith&gn=Silent+Resurgence |
06:53.53 | Shefki | All he's missing on the meta now is Ignis, Razorscale, Heartbreaker, Kologard and Auria. |
06:54.05 | Shefki | Basically easy crap he just wasn't in on or we just didn't do this week. |
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06:55.19 | vithos | i need ignis, kologarn (it bugged and didn't give the achievement), vezex and yogg |
06:57.28 | vithos | i think maybe letting the second arm kill kologard broke it. or maybe it just broke for some other reason |
06:57.55 | Shefki | Nahh that fight just sometimes bugs for the achievement it's annoying stupid. |
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06:59.28 | vithos | you should give woz some more gear imo |
07:00.43 | vithos | i already have 3x t8.5, 2x t8 and ilvl232 weapons |
07:00.48 | vithos | never seen such loot luck |
07:07.02 | mitch0 | does lua have integer types internally, or it always works with floats? |
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07:10.00 | Shefki | mitch0: http://www.lua.org/pil/2.3.html |
07:12.10 | Repo | 10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 * r6 PetTimeToLive.lua: minor fixes |
07:12.39 | mitch0 | shefki: thanks |
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07:49.32 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss * r62 / (14 files in 3 directories): |
07:49.35 | Repo | -Added options to swap Off Hand weapons in GUI. This is useful for special cases involved Main Hand or Off Hand restricted weapons. Generally you don't need it. |
07:49.38 | Repo | -Completely rewrote GUI code to be more memory efficient, and easily expandable. |
07:49.41 | Repo | -Separated Data Broker code to its own file. |
07:49.44 | Repo | -Removed Dagger and Sword option from Data Broker menu. It's much easier to just use the GUI. |
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07:54.23 | sb|work | no Fisker today? yay... |
07:54.28 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2_beta1-3-ga517d2b DCR_init.lua: [+1 commit] - Hook on "MacroFrame_OnHide()" Blizzard function was not doing anything due to the way it's registered in Blizzard_MacroUI.xml. Now hooking "MacroPopupFrame:Hide()" instead. |
08:01.43 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta7-10-g7719b30 GearGauge.lua: [+1 commit] Added Party and Raid scanning/display to list panel. Also added an "All" display option to easily switch back to showing the entire list. |
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08:05.56 | copystring | Ace3 is having issues saving nil values? it doesn't seem to save nil values for me... |
08:06.19 | Adirelle|work | ace3db you mean ? and how do you what to save nil values ? |
08:06.28 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss * r63 RSwapper3.lua: |
08:06.31 | Repo | -Fixed occasional false "Could not find weapon" errors when zoning. |
08:06.37 | Shefki | Umm the lack of the value is nil. |
08:06.41 | Shefki | How would you save nil? |
08:07.07 | Elkano | well, maybe he tries to overwirite an AceDB default value with a nil value, which doesn't work iirc |
08:07.50 | copystring | lets say i have a table with 3 values 1,2 and 3 which are tables again. then i nil table 3 and it doesn't save it. every time i reload the ui it's back again |
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08:08.32 | Torhal | Back and populated, or just back? |
08:09.01 | copystring | it's back with all default values i defined |
08:09.07 | Shefki | copystring: Did you set defaults for the 3rd value? |
08:09.09 | Torhal | Because they're the defaults. |
08:09.21 | Shefki | nil means default. |
08:09.25 | Torhal | You nil the table - it doesn't exist. AceDB says "Ok, lets populate with default values" |
08:09.32 | copystring | :s |
08:09.42 | Elkano | yeah, change your code and set it to false instead |
08:10.07 | copystring | hm, okay. that should solve that issue. |
08:11.28 | copystring | i was quite sure that was working a while ago when i actually made the db stuff... anyway, easy to update |
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08:19.03 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 04beta8 * ff9f80f /: [new tag] Tagging as beta8. |
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08:31.04 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r84 Core.lua: |
08:31.07 | Repo | Added some magic to reduce the chance of using the same mount twice in a row (may still happen though). |
08:34.37 | Fisker | sb|work |
08:34.41 | Fisker | you cannot escape me |
08:35.09 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2_beta1-4-g484d8b4 DCR_init.lua: [+1 commit] - Added Shaman's HEX spell to crowd control charmed players. |
08:35.33 | Megalon | noone can escape failure itself |
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08:38.52 | sb|work | Fisker: well, i'm here in germany, you are in some strange country up there, so you fail :p |
08:40.39 | Fisker | well actually you're trying to escape to sweden |
08:41.03 | sb|work | uhm, no |
08:41.12 | Fisker | yes you are |
08:41.13 | Fisker | also |
08:41.16 | Fisker | giev sc2 beta :( |
08:41.18 | Fisker | stupid blizzard |
08:45.24 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss * r64 GUI/WeaponFrame.lua: |
08:45.27 | Repo | -Added "Bag: " label to the bag buttons, to (hopefully) prevent confusion. |
08:45.44 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.1.3.9 * r65 : Tagging as v3.1.3.9 |
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08:47.08 | orionshock | jnwhiteh: question: is it normal that tomtom dosn't really work when the minimap is hidden? |
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08:54.28 | Archarodim | Is Marckdown supported by .docmeta? |
08:57.37 | Arrowmaster | textile and markdown are listed in the kb for markup types and work elsewhere |
08:57.48 | Arrowmaster | i would think they could be used in .docmeta |
09:00.19 | sb|work | Gnarfoz: pre-ordered 100mbit yesterday :p |
09:00.23 | sb|work | will be available in 2-3 months |
09:01.04 | Archarodim | ok thanks, I'll try :) |
09:01.17 | orionshock | sb|work: you sicken me |
09:03.34 | Repo | 10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 * r7 PetTimeToLive.lua: typo-swatting |
09:04.36 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2_beta1-6-g1b796ec / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
09:05.00 | Repo | 1b796ec: -Added .docmeta |
09:05.00 | Repo | 5b33c85: - Doc update for Hex (shaman spell) |
09:05.24 | mitch0 | is it worth throttling OnUpdate to like 20FPS if what I do in there is just one function call and a SetText() (and an if) ? |
09:06.17 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
09:06.22 | Fisker | i hate you sb|work |
09:09.31 | orionshock | mitch0: how often should this text be changing? |
09:09.37 | Archarodim | Arrowmaster: it does support markdown |
09:10.18 | Archarodim | but how can I replace the main description? it doesn't work as expected |
09:11.40 | Arrowmaster | Archarodim: not sure what the page name needs to be |
09:11.57 | Fisker | kisses Arrowmaster on the cheek |
09:12.06 | Repo | 10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 * r8 Options.lua: some niceties in the options stuff |
09:12.23 | mitch0 | orionshock: well, not that often. it's a countdown |
09:12.43 | Arrowmaster | Archarodim: try the name "Main" for the output page |
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09:12.44 | orionshock | u adding seconds or just min? |
09:12.55 | mitch0 | when under say 5 secs, it has tenth-of-a-sec granuality |
09:13.09 | orionshock | Arrowmaster: ask ckknight, he'd prolly know what the page name should be :) |
09:13.10 | mitch0 | otherwise just secs |
09:13.13 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2_beta1-7-g01335db .docmeta: [+1 commit] - .docmeta try |
09:13.30 | orionshock | mitch0: then throddle it to seconds |
09:14.13 | mitch0 | nah, seconds is too much even in the "early" stage |
09:14.27 | orionshock | every 5 then? |
09:15.05 | Archarodim | Hmm the documentor is doing very strange things... |
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09:16.12 | mitch0 | orionshock: I just hoped to avoid changing the throttling dynamically... but for < 5sec I need at least 20FPS update to make it accurate |
09:16.44 | sb|work | orionshock: what? :o |
09:17.07 | orionshock | sb|work: i dislike you. It's not hate... hate is a strong word.. |
09:17.16 | sb|work | hmm why? :( |
09:17.19 | orionshock | sb|work: but 100mb net connection is obseen |
09:17.28 | orionshock | for personal use that is |
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09:18.37 | Arrowmaster | Archarodim: you are using output-directory on a single file |
09:18.46 | sb|work | orion: mh well its like 35 eur for 25mbit + free telephone or 50 eur for 100 mbit + telephone, so not that bad |
09:18.49 | sb|work | orionshock: even |
09:19.07 | orionshock | sb|work: changes nothing.. |
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09:21.59 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2_beta1-8-gd8ae475 .docmeta: [+1 commit] - another try with .docmeta |
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09:22.53 | Arrowmaster | Archarodim: now its even worse |
09:23.06 | Arrowmaster | Archarodim: you shouldnt use output-directory at all unless you are using wildcards |
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09:24.06 | Arrowmaster | Archarodim: and thats not even a valid .docmeta |
09:24.33 | Archarodim | If I don't put output-directory somewhere, the hook fails |
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09:24.55 | Arrowmaster | the hook is probably failing because you arent creating a proper .docmeta in the first place |
09:25.16 | Arrowmaster | look at http://kb.wowace.com/projects/docmeta-file/ again |
09:25.20 | Arrowmaster | see the -'s |
09:25.28 | Archarodim | yes I just saw it |
09:27.34 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2_beta1-8-g2d82601 /: [forced -1 +1] - another try with .docmeta |
09:28.58 | Repo | 10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 * r9 PetTimeToLive.lua: OnUpdate() throttling |
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09:30.38 | Archarodim | ok it's less messy but it's like it only see one file out of three |
09:30.40 | Arrowmaster | Archarodim: its still only doing one page because you are just overwriting the entries in a single array in the yaml instead of creating multiple arrays, you need to add the -'s |
09:36.31 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.1.3.9 * r66 : WTF? v3.1.3.9 won't package. |
09:36.43 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.1.3.9 * r67 : Tagging as v3.1.3.9 |
09:37.13 | mitch0 | packager is taking a nap |
09:37.17 | Arrowmaster | x87bliss must not be in here |
09:37.34 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.2_beta1-9-g4a20109 .docmeta: [+1 commit] - .docmeta, this should do! |
09:37.37 | Arrowmaster | otherwise he would know that deleting a tag and recreating it will never get it packaged |
09:38.19 | mitch0 | I'm having trouble with center-aligned text displays (a countdown). it jitters like crazy. are there any monospace fonts in wow? |
09:38.36 | mitch0 | or any other trick to stop the jitter? |
09:38.39 | Archarodim | Thank you Arrowmaster for your help, it's ok now :) |
09:39.02 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: theres no monospaced fonts |
09:39.48 | mitch0 | any ideas then for fixing the jitter? |
09:39.57 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.1.3.9 * r68 : Tagging as v3.1.3.9 |
09:40.19 | mitch0 | it would probably suck less if it centered around the decimal point, but my guess is that's kinda hard to achieve |
09:40.40 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.1.3.9 * r69 : Tagging as v3.1.3.9 |
09:40.50 | mitch0 | (I'd need 3 FontStrings) |
09:41.48 | mitch0 | oh well, I'll call the jitter "extra warning indicator" :) |
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09:49.04 | mitch0 | fisker: your precious sc2 lan issue made it to /. if you need a new place to troll :) |
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09:51.33 | vithos | mitch0: one text field for before the decimal point and another for after :P |
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09:53.45 | mitch0 | vithos: yeah, that's the cumbersome method... especially given that I need 3 formats: min:secs, secs, secs.tenths :( |
09:54.30 | mitch0 | in any case, I'll just stop caring for teh jitter :) |
09:55.01 | vithos | yeah i'd just go for monospace font then or ignore it |
09:58.07 | Fisker | /. is shit mitch0 |
09:58.26 | mitch0 | <Fisker>Your mom is</Fisker> |
09:58.59 | Fisker | no /. |
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09:59.25 | sztanpet | mitch0 you could add a monospace font from sharedmedia |
09:59.41 | Arrowmaster | sharedmedia doesnt have any fonts |
09:59.47 | mitch0 | that too |
09:59.49 | sztanpet | right |
10:00.02 | mitch0 | and I bet I couldn't query if a font is monospace even if it had any |
10:00.26 | Arrowmaster | you cant |
10:00.38 | sztanpet | yea but bundle one, make that the default and forget about it :D |
10:00.47 | mitch0 | besides, I stopped caring about it 5 minutes ago :) |
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10:10.43 | Fisker | slaps sztanpet around a bit with a large trout |
10:11.08 | sztanpet | bored huh |
10:19.39 | Megalon | socalled fail-rage |
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10:22.49 | harl | much bettr. |
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11:01.08 | Fisker | ragemegalon |
11:05.44 | Megalon | btw Fisker, what about your sc2 beta account? |
11:06.17 | sb|work | no sc2 for him |
11:06.38 | Megalon | so, more joy for me! |
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11:09.39 | Fisker | i'll get beta before you |
11:10.50 | harl | d'uh. never open a new window. never. ever. hear that. obey. *hits his firefox'es head with a pink plush bat* lol. |
11:12.46 | Hjalte | The static disruption on Steelbreaker, will the raid just have to spread out or should the person with it run away? |
11:13.52 | waallen | you should have everyone bunching up in melee range with Steelbreaker apart for three people that will soak the static disruption |
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11:14.42 | Hjalte | Oh, you can do that? On 25-man? |
11:15.04 | waallen | yep |
11:15.42 | waallen | hunters are the most appropriate soakers, in case you don't have three fill the missing spot(s) with one or more locks |
11:16.53 | Hjalte | So they get 7k damage and then the debuff for 20 seconds, yeah? |
11:17.30 | waallen | yeah |
11:18.01 | waallen | now, I am not sure about this since I just either DPS or tank on that encounter but after they take the debuff they need to run in melee range themselves and hug the raid/steelbreaker for te duration of the debuff |
11:18.03 | waallen | then go out again |
11:18.27 | Hjalte | Hmm, that could make sense. We don't want them to get the 7k damage again. |
11:18.31 | Repo | 10epgploot2: 03felsir * r36 / (3 files in 1 directory): added announcement option in /raid (masterlooter setting) |
11:18.32 | Hjalte | Which will now be more. |
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11:19.06 | Hjalte | waallen: Are you replacing the member running in, so that you always have 3 outside? |
11:19.27 | waallen | no, we aren't |
11:19.47 | Fisker | slaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout |
11:20.24 | waallen | they have to run back to position before that their debuff expires because I think that if they wait for it to be gone completely before they are ready to soak again, a static disruption will hit a random player in melee range |
11:21.04 | Megalon | betas Fisker around a bit with a large SC2key |
11:22.18 | Megalon | they don't need to run in melee range |
11:22.30 | Megalon | or did it get changed? |
11:23.01 | Fisker | so Megalon >:3 |
11:23.13 | Fisker | why so beta? |
11:23.32 | Megalon | tattoos Fisker a sc2betakey on his back of the head |
11:23.34 | Megalon | take that |
11:24.05 | Fisker | uses mirrorhax |
11:24.13 | Fisker | I'll still get the beta before you |
11:24.13 | Fisker | hoho |
11:25.20 | Megalon | hoho |
11:25.21 | Fisker | can't be stopped |
11:25.25 | Megalon | stops Fisker |
11:25.26 | Megalon | done |
11:25.41 | Fisker | starts again |
11:25.52 | Megalon | turns Fisker by 180° |
11:25.57 | Fisker | rewinds |
11:26.10 | Megalon | changes Fisker's gearbox |
11:26.17 | Hjalte | waallen: How long is the timer on heroic, for the tanks to die? |
11:26.33 | Fisker | changes the oil |
11:26.39 | Megalon | 30seconds |
11:27.16 | Megalon | gets rid of caramel-filled oil bottle |
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11:27.34 | Fisker | how will you be getting teh beta btw? |
11:27.40 | Fisker | Blizzcon key or something? |
11:28.24 | Megalon | the stork will bring it! |
11:32.45 | sztanpet | http://www.gomtv.net/classic/vod/230 that stork? |
11:38.47 | sb|work | http://www.thetransformers.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/article-0-04c44713000005dc-822_306x349.jpg - that stork :p |
11:39.37 | Repo | 10epgploot2: 03felsir 04v2.0.10release * r37 : 2.0.10 release |
11:39.40 | Repo | - added announcement in /raid for need/greed results. The masterlooter can surpress this setting if bids are to be kept secret from the raiders. |
11:42.42 | Repo | 10ace3: 03mikk * r810 AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: Docs: Add pointer to LibDualSpec |
11:44.35 | Mikk | and screw the beta, i'll take the stork |
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11:47.05 | Funkeh` | Mikk, What's that? |
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11:48.08 | Megalon | my stork :( |
11:49.17 | Mikk | sb|work: http://www.thetransformers.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/article-0-04c44713000005dc-822_306x349.jpg - that stork :p |
11:49.32 | Mikk | ^ if that stork delivers an SC2 beta, ... screw the beta! |
11:49.42 | Mikk | er i mean i'd like to screw the stork |
11:49.48 | Mikk | manages to confuse himself |
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11:53.37 | Fisker | manages to get the beta before Megalon |
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11:58.34 | mitch0 | packager! wake up! |
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12:01.30 | Fisker | do you want to play sc2 Megalon ? |
12:02.37 | Megalon | over lan? |
12:02.39 | Megalon | ;( |
12:02.52 | Fisker | :( |
12:05.50 | Groktar | huggles Fisker |
12:08.20 | Hjalte | Anyone has a recommendation for a fun movie or tv-show I should watch? I need to laugh. |
12:08.55 | mitch0 | any brittish series should do |
12:09.04 | Elkano | start with what Wobin posted on #WoWUIDev ^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NI6iu7e91Y |
12:09.52 | mitch0 | that's boring |
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12:13.45 | Hjalte | It's just silly men fighting :) |
12:14.13 | haste | Hjalte: black books! |
12:14.54 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuX2UgYjtTE ! |
12:14.59 | Hjalte | haste: It looks interesting, at least from checking it out on IMDB: |
12:15.13 | haste | or.. Red Dwarf :D |
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12:15.42 | Arrowmaster | i pulled out my B5 dvds the other day and have been watching them.... |
12:17.44 | Mikk | B5 loses somewhat in the rewatching :< |
12:18.04 | Mikk | unlike oh Braindead which only gets better |
12:18.24 | Mikk | or more to the point Bad Taste |
12:20.13 | mitch0 | haste: thanks for the link |
12:20.17 | vhaarr | Hjalte: Black Books is ze imba, and you can use warlocks with Nether Protection for soaking on Steelbreaker |
12:20.26 | mitch0 | I know what I'll spend my amazon gift prices on ;) |
12:20.42 | mitch0 | (if/when the reward program actually goes live :) |
12:21.07 | Hjalte | vhaarr: Do you know if they move in and out or just stand and take it? (3 people) |
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12:21.16 | haste | >:3 |
12:21.21 | vhaarr | we use 5 people, and they don't move |
12:21.36 | vhaarr | they just spread out in a moon behind steelbreaker |
12:22.30 | Groktar | in av queue for 15 minutes :( |
12:22.36 | Groktar | hrm |
12:22.43 | Groktar | does honor gear not require marks anymore? |
12:23.22 | vhaarr | http://www.flickr.com/photos/alex_wild/3668703468/ |
12:23.33 | Groktar | kewl |
12:26.56 | Mikk | we stick at least one hunter out there with NR aura up |
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12:28.12 | mitch0 | black books rocks |
12:28.23 | Fisker | i hate you Megalon |
12:29.10 | Megalon | mutual it is |
12:30.01 | Fisker | don't be a jerk :( |
12:32.04 | Hjalte | I'm just worried our tanks can't handle it. Steelbreaker will hit like a truck after the first two tanks :\ |
12:32.32 | vhaarr | they only tank for 25sec or so, remember |
12:32.39 | Groktar | that's not usually what our problems are |
12:32.41 | vhaarr | last stand lasts 20sec, most trinkets last 20sec |
12:32.56 | Groktar | usually screwed up transitions |
12:32.56 | vhaarr | shield wall is 12se |
12:32.57 | vhaarr | c |
12:33.12 | Groktar | or static disruption problems |
12:33.37 | Groktar | if you blow cds on fusion punch like you should |
12:33.37 | Groktar | tanks won't die |
12:33.43 | Groktar | it's just getting everything else |
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12:35.41 | Hjalte | I'll have to tank, and because of problems with my main PC, I raid with 1-2 fps (yes, really) in most 25-man fights. Sigh. |
12:36.09 | Hjalte | Unless I can turn the camera away from the raid, then I get 4-5 fps. |
12:36.17 | Megalon | dk? |
12:36.22 | Hjalte | Feral druid |
12:36.26 | thul | tanking with 1-2 fps is a bit useless. |
12:36.32 | Hjalte | Yes, it is. |
12:36.32 | Megalon | oh, dk can tank it with 0 fps i think :P |
12:37.02 | Hjalte | 10-mans are much better, I rarely drop below 3 fps. |
12:37.36 | Pneumatus | Hjalte: 3rd tank will need pain suppression, wings, divine hymn etc for his fusion punches |
12:38.10 | SunTsu | thul: I used to tank TK with 3 fps.. |
12:38.29 | Stanzilla | Illidan Flames with 2fps! |
12:39.57 | winkiller | we were measuring in seconds per frame, you peops with the fancy hardware |
12:39.58 | thul | I prefer 40fps++ :-P |
12:40.52 | Hjalte | They just called me today, my real computer is back tommorow. Raiding from a laptop is kind of bad, as I usually lead raids and Main Tank if our warrior isn't here. |
12:44.09 | SunTsu | tanking with 3fps is great "Hey, you don't have to taunt mobs off me, I'm a tank, too!" "Sorry, I was playing blind, I just saw that the mob ran to the healer, so I taunted" |
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13:02.39 | Fisker | slaps thul around a bit with a large trout |
13:02.41 | Fisker | sc2beta |
13:03.43 | thul | BETA?! |
13:03.45 | thul | NOW?! |
13:03.46 | thul | WHERE?! |
13:03.46 | thul | etc |
13:03.53 | thul | trouts Fisker with a large slap. |
13:04.22 | Fisker | stop being mean to me |
13:04.37 | thul | :/ |
13:04.40 | thul | I love you, you know that! |
13:06.00 | Megalon | love-hate relationship in the works |
13:06.12 | Fisker | i hate you too Megalon |
13:06.52 | steev | wut u say |
13:07.12 | Fisker | The beta better be out tomorrow |
13:07.13 | Fisker | or today |
13:07.19 | steev | nobeta |
13:07.49 | Fisker | yesbeta |
13:07.56 | Megalon | nobetaforfiskerbeta |
13:07.56 | Fisker | or i will hurt you steev |
13:08.07 | Fisker | yesbetaforfiskernobetaformegalonbeta |
13:08.28 | Fisker | you got outplayed Megalon |
13:08.35 | Megalon | why all the hatred |
13:10.30 | vithos | anyone know how much mixology is getting buffed? |
13:10.40 | Megalon | yea, i was against the 'let fisker sometimes win'-clause in my 'keep fisker busy'-contract |
13:10.57 | Megalon | but they said i only get the sc2beta key if that clause stays :< |
13:10.57 | Fisker | :o |
13:11.53 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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13:13.37 | Fisker | i wonder why the pre-beta client hasn't been leaked yet btw :o |
13:13.43 | Megalon | troll-rage just ramps up so quickly |
13:13.53 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
13:14.04 | bluspacecow | pre - beta client fisker ? |
13:14.16 | Fisker | pre - beta client bluspacecow ? |
13:14.29 | bluspacecow | "Fisker: i wonder why the pre-beta client hasn't been leaked yet btw" |
13:14.36 | Fisker | yes |
13:14.54 | bluspacecow | which ones a pre beta client of ? |
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13:15.19 | steev | who says it hasn't leaked? |
13:15.24 | steev | maybe you just don't know where to get it |
13:15.29 | Fisker | i do |
13:15.37 | Megalon | and in his own little world |
13:15.41 | Megalon | fisker is always right |
13:15.54 | Megalon | emphasis on little :P |
13:19.19 | steev | anyone know any good guilds on Sen'jin aside from Premonition? |
13:20.17 | thul | I want a casual-guild on Turyaloyoooon |
13:21.24 | steev | i want a guild where i have a chance to progress |
13:21.39 | mitch0 | progress is overrated |
13:22.14 | steev | im tired of being available for 3 raids, only going on 1 or 2, or only when they need a fill-in and getting the, everyone else already has this so feel free to take it |
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13:23.05 | Pneumatus | im fed up with summer afks |
13:23.12 | steev | been a member for over a month, and was basically told, unless one of the other dps dk's steps down as a raider, im not gonna be promoted to raider |
13:24.01 | Pneumatus | why would you even have been recruited :o |
13:24.22 | steev | i was "Friends&Family" |
13:24.36 | Pneumatus | time to look for a new guild then i guess |
13:24.46 | steev | apparently theres a 15 page long thread in the officers forum about whether or not i should become a member |
13:25.34 | steev | Pneumatus: thus my previous question :-P |
13:26.09 | Pneumatus | check wowprogress, find a guild that has the kind of progress your looking for? |
13:26.25 | steev | Premonition, i just doubt i'm good enough for them :-P |
13:26.26 | winkiller | orionshock: Fisker is a troll. Wookies aren't Trolls |
13:26.39 | orionshock | LOL |
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13:27.02 | orionshock | so who's the Wookie? |
13:27.48 | Pneumatus | world 3rd guild is probably has your sights set high |
13:28.17 | Pneumatus | so your choice would be Void/Tact for hardmode guilds it seems |
13:28.25 | steev | hrm |
13:28.31 | steev | actually |
13:28.49 | steev | i don't care about hardmode so much as actually f'n clearing ulduar before 3.2 |
13:28.56 | steev | 10 OR 25 |
13:29.15 | Pneumatus | Providence and Grey Council at least then |
13:29.32 | Pneumatus | and loads of other guilds that just havnt killed vezax/yogg |
13:30.32 | steev | we've killed vezax in 10 |
13:30.39 | steev | 25 we've gotten him to 35% |
13:30.47 | steev | but yogg, no down |
13:31.58 | Hjalte | Yogg is easy on 10-man, just get a proper tank for P1 and people who understand tactics. |
13:33.01 | steev | proper tank? |
13:33.54 | Pneumatus | once that's capable of tanking+moving at the same time |
13:34.14 | steev | the one 10 team is really good, the team i lead is pretty much whoever is available, but we're not doing too bad, we've pushed mimiron to p3, and there are at least 3 of us who are alts |
13:34.26 | Fisker | vezax is eeeeeeeeeeeeeez with a death knight tank |
13:34.36 | steev | yes it is |
13:34.43 | Pneumatus | s/easy/trivial/ |
13:35.13 | Fisker | s/trivial/your mom/ |
13:35.31 | p4aved | i tank vezak on my warrior and we don't kite |
13:35.37 | pentium166 | vezax is your mom with a death knight tank? |
13:35.43 | p4aved | just sw than last stand/enraged regen/trinkets |
13:35.43 | Pneumatus | on 10man p4aved? |
13:35.48 | p4aved | 25man |
13:35.53 | Pneumatus | hardmode? |
13:36.12 | p4aved | not 25 man HM |
13:36.31 | Fisker | oh yeah? |
13:36.46 | p4aved | pretty sure xav from premo tanks vezak hm |
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13:41.31 | bluspacecow | ~beer Fisker |
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15:16.58 | Wobin | "And now for the Shipping Reports..." |
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15:44.12 | bluspacecow | ? |
15:44.17 | bluspacecow | how now brown cow |
15:48.31 | Torhal | Fisker: The roof is on fire. |
15:50.21 | Fisker | Anyone know if val'anyr can proc on judgement of light? |
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16:30.45 | ckknight | sylvanaar: ping |
16:31.21 | nevcairiel | man i hate summer, its so damn hot |
16:31.24 | durcyn | any SPELL_HEAL or SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL that fires while the source has the blessing and the destination has the protection buff, afaik, fisker |
16:31.28 | Stanzilla | agrees |
16:32.01 | nevcairiel | talking about combatlog .. did anyone test if those heal absord events fire for priest shields etc? |
16:32.07 | durcyn | http://www.thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=78750 it's actually relatively cool here! |
16:32.39 | nevcairiel | not that i would know if 90F is hot |
16:32.42 | nevcairiel | F is for silly people |
16:32.43 | nevcairiel | ;) |
16:33.05 | durcyn | yeah, well, if i could convince 300 million other silly people to use metric, i would've done it a long time ago |
16:33.50 | ckknight | I'd much prefer if we switched to Metric |
16:33.55 | ckknight | but there's not a great business case for it |
16:34.12 | durcyn | also, the absorb thing seems to be for a new combat mechanic that requires the victim of some debuff to be healed for a certain amount or something unpleasant happens to them |
16:34.24 | durcyn | ckknight: there's not a business case for daylight savings either, yet here we are |
16:34.25 | Zyndrome | the imperial system is dumb! |
16:34.40 | nevcairiel | durcyn: actually dst has a business case |
16:34.40 | ckknight | durcyn: actually there is, it's just a poor case. |
16:36.16 | durcyn | I'll cut you both. |
16:37.07 | nevcairiel | I don't like the concept either (granted, if we abolish the system, i would prefer to stay in the "summer time", rather the non-dst time, it fits me better :P) |
16:37.13 | Torhal | Fisker: durcyn is moving in on your territory. |
16:39.11 | durcyn | fisker's an impostor to the throne |
16:39.53 | ckknight | so how's everyone doing today? |
16:40.11 | nevcairiel | i'm melting |
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16:41.03 | ckknight | I always suspected you of witchcraft, nevcairiel |
16:46.02 | nicoli_s | thats funny, i always suspected you of being racist towards witches ckknight |
16:46.18 | nevcairiel | He is |
16:46.26 | ckknight | I hate when people use the term "racist" for something that isn't a race |
16:46.33 | durcyn | that's pretty racist, ck |
16:46.55 | ckknight | and especially when I have so many anti-semetic rants stored up already anyway. |
16:47.05 | nicoli_s | hey, witches are a race |
16:47.08 | nicoli_s | in some shitty mmo at least |
16:47.21 | nicoli_s | or rts |
16:50.18 | Gnarfoz | what are semetes? ;p |
16:50.46 | durcyn | dyslexic jews, Gnarfoz |
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16:50.59 | Gnarfoz | probably |
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16:54.37 | Groktar | pounces Gnarfoz |
16:54.40 | thul | hey, semites are far more than jews. |
16:54.54 | Chromwell | hi, i´ve a question regarding sold auction system messages... is it possible to process these messages to a self written addon to store the item which has been bought directly? |
16:55.29 | Gnarfoz | that should be possible |
16:57.00 | Chromwell | any clue what wow api call to look for this to play around a bit? i´m fairly new to addon coding :/ |
16:59.51 | Gnarfoz | probably no api call, you want to listen for the CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM event |
16:59.56 | Gnarfoz | !api CHAT_MSG_ |
16:59.58 | lua_bot | Found 50 possible matches for 'CHAT_MSG_'. Please be more specific |
17:00.01 | Gnarfoz | !api CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
17:00.05 | lua_bot | CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM: Fires when you receive a system message, for example going or coming back from afk status. (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM) |
17:01.20 | Chromwell | the goal should be to craft the sold auctions, i´ve already made a addon that crafts the item which i send with a parameter, so when i get a list of sold auctions i think i have already done half the work :) |
17:02.44 | Chromwell | thanks, i´ll try to find more informations about this event calls and how this would fit in my addon. |
17:10.25 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/author-store-is-launched/ |
17:11.46 | Wobin | oh. |
17:11.52 | Wobin | I like the 10k points reward |
17:15.37 | ckknight | yea, I'm gonna get 4 of those |
17:15.38 | ckknight | <.< |
17:15.39 | ckknight | >.> |
17:15.44 | ckknight | but yea, real monies |
17:19.49 | nicoli_s | now if i can just get my points for curse profiler all will be in order.... |
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17:23.11 | Caleb| | you get points for running curse profiler or what nicoli_s? |
17:23.54 | Wobin | nicoli_s wrote the curse profiler |
17:24.10 | Caleb| | haha ok :D |
17:24.18 | Wobin | (I'm guessing) |
17:24.38 | Wobin | and possibly doesn't get points awarded cause of weird distribution of the addon =P |
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17:25.20 | ckknight | we have a blacklist of addons that don't get points, the curse profiler addons are on that blacklist. |
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17:26.52 | Wobin | since it comes packaged with the CC, it's not really fair to include it =) |
17:27.15 | Wobin | or rather, there's no good way of determining voluntary downloads |
17:27.26 | Wobin | (through the client) |
17:27.33 | ckknight | correct |
17:27.36 | ckknight | that's why it's on a blacklist |
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17:35.09 | nicoli_s | itd be fair if i got like 1/4 of the points :P |
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18:04.39 | durcyn | don't you get a salary already |
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18:38.37 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://lua.org | Curse Client: http://www.curse.com/client | http://wowace.com/a/author-store-is-launched | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23763 | Want your Username changed? http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ |
18:38.54 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://lua.org | Curse Client: http://www.curse.com/client | http://wowace.com/a/author-store-is-launched | Want your Username changed? http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ |
18:40.56 | Gnarfoz | I think I should start a list of things that took less time than the first Curse username change did |
18:41.07 | Gnarfoz | (like the Duke Nukem Forever list) |
18:41.19 | nevcairiel | hah still didnt happen, eh? |
18:41.25 | Bruners | hehe |
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18:43.43 | NeoTron | so |
18:43.53 | NeoTron | speaking of odd shit - how can you make a movie about Asteroids?A |
18:44.13 | sylvanaar | ckknight pong |
18:44.30 | ckknight | sylvanaar: check to see if you got emails for your amazon gift cards |
18:44.50 | sylvanaar | o.O yes i did |
18:44.54 | ckknight | k |
18:45.02 | ckknight | the item codes are also visible on the site |
18:46.16 | sylvanaar | thats super awesome |
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18:48.00 | ckknight | you know you want to do me a favor and make sure they work, right? ;-) |
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18:48.20 | nevcairiel | need a test subject for the paypal thing too? ;) |
18:50.36 | Gnarfoz | I volunteer, just add me 10k points and I'll test |
18:50.45 | Gnarfoz | OR change my user name, your choice |
18:50.50 | Gnarfoz | :D |
18:51.21 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
18:51.22 | Fisker | my nemesis |
18:51.32 | Gnarfoz | star trek 10? |
18:52.04 | ckknight | nevcairiel: I don't handle those ones. |
18:52.12 | Gnarfoz | http://www.etotheipiplusone.net/?p=363 < woot ;D |
18:52.12 | ckknight | nevcairiel: that's gotta be handled by the SF office |
18:52.12 | nevcairiel | too bad |
18:52.17 | ckknight | yea |
18:52.19 | nevcairiel | SF? |
18:52.36 | Gnarfoz | SanFrancisco |
18:52.45 | nevcairiel | I guess that works |
18:52.48 | Gnarfoz | plus space |
18:56.28 | Fisker | no Gnarfoz |
18:56.29 | Fisker | my nemesis |
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18:59.54 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: can't have your nemesis all for yourself, I'm afraid |
19:00.00 | sylvanaar | ckknight oh they worked, i put em in right away |
19:00.07 | ckknight | great. |
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19:02.39 | sylvanaar | BSG season 4.5 blu-ray ftw |
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19:04.39 | Gnarfoz | that can be reduced to: BSG ftw |
19:04.48 | nevcairiel | seriously |
19:07.08 | Camci | anyone here experienced with joomla? |
19:08.13 | nevcairiel | i wrote a plugin for it once, but i don't really know much else =P |
19:08.15 | sylvanaar | yes - bsg ftw - but you know they released the whole series on blu-ray now - I already own the whole thing on dvd - im so pissed |
19:08.33 | nevcairiel | buying series is so expensive =( |
19:09.02 | sylvanaar | yeah, I have bought it piecemeal over the years so - its not that bad |
19:09.30 | sylvanaar | but you can buy the entire thing on blu-ray now - but its like 250 |
19:09.43 | Camci | lol nevcairiel :p |
19:09.55 | nevcairiel | plus i don't have a bluray player |
19:13.56 | sylvanaar | really? |
19:14.01 | sylvanaar | no ps3? |
19:14.04 | nevcairiel | no |
19:14.08 | nevcairiel | i'm not into consoles |
19:14.19 | Camci | xbox > ps |
19:14.25 | sylvanaar | i have both |
19:14.27 | nevcairiel | i only ever had a SNES |
19:14.33 | nevcairiel | back in the day |
19:16.07 | sylvanaar | when is the new soylent green ... ugh i mean andromeda strain coming out |
19:16.24 | sylvanaar | should be soon I thought |
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19:18.27 | nevcairiel | huh? |
19:18.35 | nevcairiel | what did i miss? |
19:18.37 | nevcairiel | something new? |
19:19.33 | sylvanaar | i saw a trailer for it at some point - said sometime in the summer |
19:19.42 | sylvanaar | another remake |
19:19.58 | sylvanaar | but i cant find anything about it on google |
19:20.12 | Fisker | slaps sylvanaar around a bit with a large trout |
19:20.24 | Fisker | Sir Gnarfoz |
19:20.27 | Fisker | sc2beta? |
19:20.48 | Gnarfoz | I'd expect no less from my squire, thanks |
19:20.52 | Gnarfoz | you know where to mail it? |
19:22.58 | sylvanaar | i guess i must have been high |
19:23.06 | ckknight | Fisker: it's pretty fun, right? |
19:23.21 | sylvanaar | i think im going to see transformers |
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19:25.03 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: there was an andromeda strain mini-series in spring 2008, but thats all my googling turned up |
19:25.20 | sylvanaar | yeah - thats all i see too |
19:25.30 | sylvanaar | but im really sure i saw a trailer for it |
19:25.33 | sylvanaar | oh well |
19:25.47 | ckknight | I saw that one |
19:25.50 | sylvanaar | i totally loved that movie |
19:25.54 | sylvanaar | the original |
19:29.28 | Fisker | nah Gnarfoz |
19:29.30 | Fisker | and naw ckknight |
19:29.49 | Fisker | thorim totally in the mountains'ed me |
19:29.59 | nicoli_s | sylvanaar dont go see transformers, its just gonna suck |
19:30.22 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: he does that to us all the time |
19:30.35 | sylvanaar | is it? its got an 85% rating on movies.com |
19:30.42 | sylvanaar | star trek got 91% |
19:30.51 | sylvanaar | and it was super |
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19:32.13 | sylvanaar | well i'll tell you if its any good |
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19:33.23 | Repo | 10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 04v0.1-beta1 * r11 : Tagging as v0.1-beta1 |
19:34.06 | Fisker | this was the zillionth enchant roll i lost |
19:34.14 | Fisker | fu you i want blade ward damnit |
19:34.40 | Repo | 10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 * r12 / (2 files in 1 directory): doh, copy-waste cleanup |
19:35.03 | Repo | 10pet-time-to-live: 03mitch0 04v0.8-beta1 * r13 : Tagging as v0.8-beta1 |
19:38.25 | mitchnull | any way to remove files from the Files view? |
19:40.24 | steev | sylvanaar: as long as you go in remembering its Transformers, and not some souped up f'n drama/chick/emo/horror flick, you shouldn't be disappointed |
19:40.53 | steev | "the story line sucked" dude, its transformers... "so? its supposed to..." ITS TRANSFORMERS |
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19:42.33 | SunTsu | Well, there's Megan Fox, what more do you need? |
19:42.44 | steev | Megan Fox naked |
19:43.01 | SunTsu | granted |
19:43.09 | nicoli_s | sylvanaar, check out the movie reviews on rottentomatoes.com for transformers |
19:43.40 | nicoli_s | takes everything that was bad about the first Transformers movie two years ago, and amplifies it to deafening proportions |
19:43.54 | steev | nicoli_s: it's transformers. |
19:44.15 | NivFreak | I'll watch it on cable |
19:44.18 | nicoli_s | i would argue its nothing like transformers |
19:44.33 | nicoli_s | cuz i just looked up my old transformers comics from back in the day and that shit is nothing alike |
19:44.36 | steev | someone always has to argue the incorrect side |
19:44.44 | steev | :-P |
19:44.45 | nicoli_s | Will insult your intelligence, hurt your eyes, and offend your sense of decency until you worry that your skull might explode while your brain trickles right out of your ears. |
19:45.13 | steev | trying to figure out how megan fox can hurt anyone's eyes |
19:45.18 | nicoli_s | If it sounds as though the script (credited to Ehren Kruger, Robert Orci, and Alex Kurtzman) was written in serial-novel form during an all-night mescaline bender, well, I have no evidence that it was not. |
19:46.17 | nicoli_s | theres alot more funnier than that |
19:46.32 | steev | Review written by McDonaldsMovieCritic |
19:47.45 | nicoli_s | im just saying, i like action movies and sci fi and transformers, but that crap michael bay made is like an abortion of my childhood |
19:48.53 | nicoli_s | transformers is not about people, its about awesome robots |
19:49.14 | steev | the robots were not awesome? |
19:49.14 | nicoli_s | prime's speech at the end of the first one talking about liberty and shit made me want to cut my ears off |
19:49.32 | steev | disclaimer: i haven't seen either |
19:49.36 | nicoli_s | the first one was like 20% robot focused and 80% human drama relationship bullshit |
19:50.21 | SunTsu | nicoli_s: If it was meant for transformers as audience it would have been the other way around ;) |
19:50.43 | nicoli_s | har de har har |
19:53.50 | Lutin` | So you guys know the how the Half Life 2 symbol is the Lambda? |
19:54.00 | Lutin` | Well I -just- figured out why |
19:54.03 | Lutin` | And I feel like an idiot |
19:54.05 | Lutin` | http://imgur.com/gallery/2q3YP |
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19:57.07 | nicoli_s | wow, never thought of that |
19:57.41 | nicoli_s | that yer arm lutin? |
19:57.45 | nicoli_s | doing some experiments? |
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20:00.35 | Lutin` | No :P |
20:02.36 | Camci | bahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk7RGT5LbI4 |
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20:29.35 | aestil | Fisker: do you have beta for SC2? |
20:30.27 | nicoli_s | nope |
20:30.46 | Shefki | He does he's just holding out on us. |
20:31.20 | nicoli_s | if only that were so :( |
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20:34.42 | the-golem | Afternoon. |
20:40.31 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2133 / (4 files in 2 directories): - Fix share Wishlist bugs |
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20:58.20 | NivFreak | hrm, isn't it generally bad form to fork an addon and keep the same name? :) |
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21:02.01 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03LCF_HeLL * r5743 Ulduar (2 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: ruRU update |
21:03.13 | Bruners | NivFreak: i would say yes |
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21:11.32 | the-golem | :-( |
21:11.46 | the-golem | prat cannot affect timestamps of combat log? |
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21:20.43 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r80 / (2 files in 2 directories): minor tweaks to upvalues |
21:20.51 | Repo | 10sifter: 03Starinnia * r9 Sifter.lua: minor tweaks to upvalues |
21:20.57 | steev | the-golem: afaik, the game itself does the logging |
21:24.14 | the-golem | i see :-( |
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21:39.49 | Groktar | pounces you |
21:41.41 | ckknight | noes! |
21:45.27 | Groktar | claws at ckknight's neck |
21:46.04 | thul | I want to call my arena team SS Wafle |
21:50.07 | ckknight | Schutzstaffel ftw, thul? |
21:51.21 | sylvanaar | ok, i fell asleep in the transformers movie - so I dont know if it was good or not |
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21:51.35 | nevcairiel | lol |
21:51.46 | nevcairiel | thats time well spent |
21:51.56 | sylvanaar | yeah, was a nice nap |
21:56.30 | Fisker | Groktar |
21:56.32 | Fisker | sc2beeeeeeta |
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21:56.38 | Fisker | i need it |
21:56.56 | aestil | you need sc2 beta key? |
21:57.01 | nicoli_s | so you paid like 10 dollars for a nap? |
21:57.43 | thul | ckknight: always |
21:58.10 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/07/02/microsoft-pulls-sickening-internet-explorer-8-ads <-ARGUECAT DOT FUCKING JPG |
21:59.49 | sylvanaar | yeah |
21:59.54 | sylvanaar | 10$ nap |
22:00.21 | Fisker | naw aestil |
22:00.24 | Fisker | i need sc2 beta |
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22:01.41 | orionshock | question; can you load an .M2 file via Addon? |
22:02.30 | Fisker | didn't ckknight do that once with a mod of ihs? |
22:02.33 | Fisker | his* |
22:02.51 | ckknight | yea, it got fucked every patch. |
22:05.34 | orionshock | lol |
22:05.45 | tlund | on google code, how do i add a label to a ticket? |
22:06.08 | orionshock | just wondering b/c of the new shit storm in the US-UI forum. |
22:06.20 | orionshock | bitching about replacing the loginscreen with a blank file |
22:06.42 | Fisker | why? |
22:10.08 | orionshock | Fisker: because they can |
22:11.00 | steev | meh |
22:11.04 | steev | yeah time to find a new guild |
22:12.18 | steev | "in order to avoid having too many raiders, we will only be promoting people to raider rank when a raider decides to step down" |
22:12.39 | ckknight | hmm |
22:13.05 | steev | doesn't matter that i outdps raiders, doesn't matter that i learn the fights, doesn't matter that i lead a 10 man ulduar run on the off nights |
22:13.20 | steev | all that matters is that someone else got the rank already and they show up at least 2 nights a week |
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22:25.01 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/gridstatusignored/. GridStatusIgnored. Cyprias (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
22:25.06 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/loan-officer/. Loan Officer. Sidrus (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
22:31.06 | Gnarfoz | steev: EU? ;p |
22:31.41 | Gnarfoz | also, lol @ GridStatusIgnored |
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22:33.02 | ckknight | goddamn, nevcairiel |
22:33.11 | ckknight | now I gotta put that (gridstatusignored) into PitBull4 |
22:33.14 | ckknight | I bet I can write a module for it. |
22:33.30 | nevcairiel | How is that my fault now? <.< |
22:33.31 | ckknight | also: lulz |
22:33.41 | ckknight | I'm just joking |
22:34.01 | nevcairiel | people apparently write grid modules for any shit they can come up with |
22:35.52 | NivFreak | so I was messing around with addon profiler last night, hoping to track down some of the addons abusing my frame rate |
22:36.13 | NivFreak | and PB4 and SBF won on most cpu used |
22:36.20 | NivFreak | but 10-20x |
22:36.21 | NivFreak | by* |
22:36.42 | NivFreak | I'm surprised PB was up there, since I only use it for MTs :) |
22:37.01 | NivFreak | I think I might need to find a lighter weight solution since I'm not really getting much out of it |
22:37.13 | nevcairiel | That reminds me to release my MT frames.. |
22:37.24 | nevcairiel | I should finish them on the weekend |
22:37.31 | NivFreak | screenshots or they don't exist |
22:37.40 | NivFreak | :) |
22:37.58 | NivFreak | I really don't need much out of my MT frames, I just don't like ora2's |
22:38.17 | NivFreak | I'm strange and like a portrait on them |
22:38.19 | nevcairiel | it looks alot like the oRA2 MT frames because thats how i liked them =p |
22:38.28 | nevcairiel | just for oUF and with oRA3 support |
22:38.52 | nevcairiel | or default blizz MTs if oRA3 is not found |
22:39.03 | NivFreak | ora3 has MT support finally? |
22:39.18 | nevcairiel | I dunno if the code for it is done yet |
22:39.29 | nevcairiel | But all it will ever do is allow sorting of the MTs you set via blizzard |
22:40.14 | nevcairiel | I have been out of the loop the last weeks, so shrug |
22:40.18 | nevcairiel | no idea how far it is now |
22:40.19 | ckknight | NivFreak: hmm, latest PB4? |
22:40.42 | NivFreak | ckknight: latested tagged release |
22:40.46 | NivFreak | latest* |
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22:40.48 | ckknight | hmm |
22:41.02 | nevcairiel | its the evilness! |
22:41.10 | nevcairiel | ;) |
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22:41.38 | NivFreak | I was tempted to disable the aura modules |
22:41.41 | nevcairiel | man its too hot to sleep but i'm too tired to do something productive .. so i'm bored <.< |
22:41.50 | NivFreak | and see if that helped |
22:42.13 | NivFreak | I'm reminded of this because someone was just sharing thier profiling results in ej |
22:43.35 | NivFreak | < chaud> oUF P3lim has 176kb |
22:43.36 | NivFreak | < chaud> and oUF perfect has 192 |
22:43.36 | NivFreak | < chaud> pb4 has 244 |
22:44.02 | NivFreak | I wish had brough my profile caps to work with me to share |
22:44.33 | nevcairiel | he actually goes through all the trouble to compare static memory while his system probably sits there with 4gigs? =P |
22:44.53 | NivFreak | yea, who cares :) |
22:45.29 | NivFreak | that was garbage iirc |
22:46.38 | NivFreak | Antiarc: didn't I see you assert some sort of specific relationship between cpu/sec and fps? |
22:48.04 | NivFreak | anyway, I had some luck pulling out addons that were hurting me |
22:48.16 | NivFreak | most of them were apparently related to shoving info into tooltips |
22:48.35 | NivFreak | and cowtip itself seemed to be using a fair amount of cpu |
22:48.43 | nevcairiel | always has |
22:48.52 | NivFreak | I'm going to try some alternatives |
22:48.55 | NivFreak | have any good suggestions? |
22:49.18 | nevcairiel | I still use TinyTip .. i don't have big requirements on that .. better positioning and some more colors is good for me |
22:49.30 | NivFreak | I like seeing a few extra bits of info |
22:49.37 | NivFreak | like thier target, gtag on a player etc |
22:49.43 | NivFreak | nothing crazy like mana bars |
22:49.59 | NivFreak | I think I was using tinytip in TBC, before switching to cowtip |
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22:50.37 | NivFreak | last updated 5 months ago eh |
22:50.49 | nevcairiel | still works |
22:50.52 | nevcairiel | :) |
22:51.15 | NivFreak | I just always worry if it's going to get updates later :) |
22:51.44 | nevcairiel | I don't even use the wrapper addon "TinyTip" .. i just have TTBasic and TTPositioning and did the config in the lua file that came with it =P |
22:51.48 | Gnarfoz | I just need on-cursor positioning that isn't broken |
22:51.53 | Gnarfoz | plus target |
22:51.59 | Gnarfoz | and... instant hide on EVERYTHING. |
22:52.08 | Gnarfoz | fade out is annoying as hell :D |
22:52.43 | NivFreak | agreed |
22:52.51 | NivFreak | but honestly, I can't stand the tooltip on my pointer most of the time |
22:52.55 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: which addons did you lose that reduced cpu usage noticably? |
22:53.02 | Gnarfoz | noticeably? |
22:53.11 | NivFreak | what was it, baggins_forever or something? |
22:53.12 | NivFreak | cowtip |
22:53.25 | NivFreak | auctioneer's informant/stubby iirc |
22:53.33 | nevcairiel | informant is evil |
22:53.34 | NivFreak | I have caps at home of the profiles so I could review them later |
22:53.35 | Gnarfoz | baggins_forever? sounds like crazy bugginess right there |
22:53.45 | NivFreak | I was doing some debugging while MTing |
22:53.47 | NivFreak | so it's rough :P |
22:53.51 | Gnarfoz | heh |
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22:54.10 | Gnarfoz | I just run a full 25man night with cpu profiling on and peek at it some times |
22:54.14 | NivFreak | luckily, addon profiler w/ cpu profiling on is still not so heavy that I was able to do my job |
22:54.16 | Gnarfoz | and take screenshots afterwards |
22:54.18 | NivFreak | but I was at 5fps |
22:54.29 | Gnarfoz | which profiler do you use, exactly? |
22:54.33 | NivFreak | addon profiler |
22:54.38 | NivFreak | shadowed's |
22:54.46 | Gnarfoz | ah, Ressource Tools? |
22:54.55 | Gnarfoz | that's his, IIRC |
22:55.04 | NivFreak | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/addon-profiler.aspx |
22:55.09 | Gnarfoz | or did he write YAAP (yet another addon profiler) :D |
22:55.15 | NivFreak | the later |
22:55.18 | NivFreak | afaik |
22:55.54 | Gnarfoz | screenshot looks very similar to RT, but is different, so yeah, rewrite probably |
22:56.18 | NivFreak | I get the impression that's what he mostly does :) |
22:56.20 | Gnarfoz | is the window movable? (lol) |
22:56.29 | NivFreak | yes |
22:56.31 | Gnarfoz | that so annoys the hell out of me with RT ;p |
22:56.33 | NivFreak | and you can hide it |
22:56.45 | NivFreak | so I just set it to profile for a couple mins, minimize it |
22:56.54 | Gnarfoz | yeah, RT doesn't need to be in foreground to do it's thang, either |
22:56.56 | NivFreak | then after the boss is dead, I pop it back up and take a look |
22:57.03 | Gnarfoz | RT does namespace based profiling and event based, too |
22:57.18 | NivFreak | I've just been struggling for a couple months with performance problems |
22:57.31 | Gnarfoz | actually, event based has been broken for a while, and he said he doesn't use it so it's gonna be a while before that's gets fixed, if at all |
22:57.31 | NivFreak | I have a relatively high end machine, and I get 100+fps... until the pull |
22:57.35 | NivFreak | then I'm 15fps or lower |
22:57.39 | Gnarfoz | about the same here. |
22:57.49 | Gnarfoz | I should be getting way better FPS |
22:58.20 | Gnarfoz | people with half the cpu/gpu/ram (each! :P) in my raid can play |
22:58.20 | NivFreak | I have a 3ghz i7, 6G of high performance corsair ram, GTX 285, and intel x25m SSD |
22:58.28 | Gnarfoz | woot, moneh. |
22:58.29 | NivFreak | so I have a hard time blaming hardware |
22:59.32 | Gnarfoz | erm yeah, anyway mine's not quite that recent, but E6750 (2.66ghz c2d), 8800 gtx, 4gb (hey, corsair, too! <3) ddr2-800 and HDD really doesn't come into it |
23:00.03 | Gnarfoz | should still be able to run wow at 1680x1050, without AA, maxed out. wow is just too old to not run at max settings on this. :P |
23:00.07 | Gnarfoz | however. |
23:00.09 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't. :D |
23:00.27 | NivFreak | I turn shadows off |
23:00.30 | Gnarfoz | yep. |
23:00.33 | NivFreak | well |
23:00.39 | NivFreak | I guess I leave them on 1 notch |
23:00.42 | NivFreak | I do run at a high rez |
23:00.44 | Gnarfoz | I'm still running pb3 though, and it tops CPU usage easily |
23:00.47 | NivFreak | 1920x1200 |
23:00.54 | NivFreak | yea, that's why I moved to pb4 |
23:00.57 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: that sounds like my comp, except that i run a 8800 gts .. and i never had any fps issues at all |
23:01.00 | NivFreak | that and the random rock errors from pb3 |
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23:01.28 | nevcairiel | (with all maxxed, shadows off, even soem AA on) |
23:01.35 | NivFreak | I run 1xaa |
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23:01.42 | Gnarfoz | got shadowed's UFs installed not but haven't found the motivation to replicate my (not really complicated, but I'm so damn used to it, I want to exactly mirror it :P) layout, yet |
23:01.50 | NivFreak | so yea, I'm struggling to figure out what's up |
23:02.00 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: probably running less shitty addons than I am :\ |
23:02.00 | nevcairiel | I exactly mirrored my previous layout into oUF =P |
23:02.01 | NivFreak | I was pushing ~25-30fps after disabling some addons abusing my CPU |
23:02.07 | NivFreak | but still, it seems like I should not have this problem |
23:02.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: oh god don't even start on oUF, when I'm too lazy to do it with Shadowed's UF, I doubt I'll ever touch oUF seriously |
23:02.40 | nevcairiel | :D |
23:02.47 | nevcairiel | I dunno, some day i was just motivated |
23:02.56 | nevcairiel | I wanted to change something in my layout |
23:02.57 | Gnarfoz | that rare occurence! |
23:02.58 | nevcairiel | but couldnt |
23:02.58 | Aeyan | Yeah, I avoided oUF like the plague |
23:03.02 | Aeyan | and then I got bored |
23:03.20 | nevcairiel | So because i really wanted that thing changed, i wrote it in oUF :D |
23:03.35 | Aeyan | Now I move and size things by pixels |
23:03.40 | Gnarfoz | the concept of saving cpu usage by just making it only hard-code configurable is kind of weak, too, imho ;p |
23:03.43 | Aeyan | and happiness is pixel perfect |
23:03.57 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i don't have to configure it =) |
23:04.12 | Gnarfoz | right |
23:04.13 | nevcairiel | I never released it, so other people don't have to either! |
23:04.16 | Gnarfoz | you know what I meant :D |
23:04.34 | NivFreak | @project oUF |
23:04.35 | Repo | NivFreak: No project found that matches 'ouf' |
23:04.38 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: wowi |
23:04.46 | NivFreak | gah |
23:04.53 | Aeyan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9994-oUF.html |
23:04.53 | NivFreak | I hate this divide |
23:04.55 | nevcairiel | I dunno, i'm a CLI person, and a developer, i actually prefer changing a variable in a file then a fancy UI |
23:05.57 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: true enough, and I touch the pb3 config once in 3 months or so, but the intitial setup is just too much hassle for a lazy bum like me |
23:06.21 | Gnarfoz | (even though I do like things as perfect as they can be. it's hard to combine that with laziness, sometimes) |
23:06.25 | nevcairiel | I have days were OCD > lazyness |
23:06.32 | nevcairiel | ;) |
23:06.33 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
23:06.37 | Gnarfoz | anyway: |
23:07.00 | Gnarfoz | what still confuses me, and I'll never get an answer because I don't have a US account to post on the UI forums: |
23:07.14 | durcyn | it's not OCD, it's CDO, the letters have to be arranged alphabetically! |
23:07.14 | Gnarfoz | what the hell was going on in patch 3.1.1 |
23:07.37 | nevcairiel | regarding what, Gnarfoz? |
23:07.44 | Gnarfoz | patch 3.1.1 (which was only live for a week, being replaced the week after) |
23:07.54 | Gnarfoz | had so much better performance than both 3.1.0 and 3.1.3 |
23:08.04 | Gnarfoz | (or .2, was there a 3.1.2? I don't recall right now) |
23:08.17 | nevcairiel | 3.1.1 came one week after 3.1.0 |
23:08.25 | Gnarfoz | it was a day/night difference for me, and for those poor fellas with crappy computers |
23:08.29 | nevcairiel | not sure how long it was out |
23:08.47 | Gnarfoz | it should be 3.1.1, I think |
23:09.09 | Gnarfoz | because we were already into ulduar, then that patch hit, and then the next one came |
23:09.23 | Gnarfoz | and seriously, it was so much better, I don't know how or why |
23:09.34 | Gnarfoz | 25man felt like 10man |
23:09.36 | nevcairiel | Not like they would answer that question in any useful way, even if you could ask |
23:09.41 | Gnarfoz | yeah, probably. |
23:10.11 | Gnarfoz | but there's this spark of hope that they'd go and look "huh what was going on there, this sounds good if we can do it on purpose" ;P |
23:10.21 | nevcairiel | heh |
23:10.38 | Gnarfoz | our (best, actually) mage plays on some outdated pentium M laptop |
23:11.11 | Gnarfoz | and regularily has like 5fps in boss fights (topping dps all the while, not failing shit once, either, I just don't know how he does it), went up to 15fps or so |
23:12.17 | Gnarfoz | I guess the best answer I'd get would be "did you make sure to check the "Load out of date addons" checkbox?" |
23:12.46 | Gnarfoz | no shit, I'd have noticed if 2/3 of my UI was missing and that would have been the reason for the performance gain ;P |
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23:16.26 | Lutin` | Gnarfoz: Well see the problem was was that patch 3.1.1 introduced a slight problem |
23:16.38 | Lutin` | The ability to distort time-space |
23:16.55 | Gnarfoz | /cast DistortTimeAndSpace? |
23:16.59 | Lutin` | Now on a small level, say 100 players, this wouldn't be a problem |
23:17.19 | Lutin` | But they discovered that with the large number of players, they could very well destroy the world |
23:17.23 | Lutin` | of warcraft |
23:17.45 | Lutin` | That ability was removed in patch 3.1.2 |
23:18.18 | Lutin` | And there was a 3.1.2 |
23:18.22 | Lutin` | It was 3.1.2.9901 |
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23:25.15 | Gnarfoz | however, it can only have been 3.1.0 itself, then |
23:25.42 | Gnarfoz | because this era of good performance (and possible destruction of the world... of warcraft) lasted only a week |
23:31.52 | Ghan | is there a way to actively "destroy" frames that are stored in an array, or should i just hide it, remove it from the array and hope that at some point it will be garbage-collected? |
23:32.07 | Gnarfoz | frames are never GC'd |
23:32.53 | Ghan | so what to do with them? |
23:33.01 | Gnarfoz | you can remove all references, unregister it from all events, etc., but that doesn't change that fact |
23:33.31 | Gnarfoz | recycle them, or don't stop needing them |
23:34.16 | Ghan | but... but.... I'll have to invest time to do that.... it's soooooo neat that way |
23:34.17 | Ghan | :/ |
23:34.39 | nevcairiel | How many frames would you create that end up as garbage? |
23:34.41 | nevcairiel | alot? |
23:35.01 | Ghan | depends on what alot are |
23:35.06 | Ghan | ~1 per 20 seconds |
23:35.30 | Ghan | I can recycle them, I just thought you could get rid of them somehow |
23:35.36 | nevcairiel | thats pretty much alot |
23:36.55 | Ghan | well... I'll go ahead and recycle a bit then - thanks for your help |
23:38.52 | Gnarfoz | spend some of the time implementing the recycling figuring out if you really need the frames ;) |
23:40.21 | Ghan | I guess I don't, yet I also guess I don't know another way to do what I want - my lua knowlage is rather limited. |
23:41.09 | Ghan | But 6-10 frames that get recycled won't hurt too much |
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23:48.01 | kagaro | Kaelten: pong |
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23:54.01 | Gnarfoz | weird |
23:54.14 | Gnarfoz | CurseClient 3 detects my installed version of Skada as "dev" |
23:54.23 | Gnarfoz | CurseClient 4 as "up to date" |
23:54.36 | Gnarfoz | (and I don't recall modifying it) |
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23:55.21 | Gnarfoz | ... refreshing for the 3rd time made cc3 recognize it |
23:55.24 | Gnarfoz | whatever. |
23:55.51 | Gnarfoz | bbbbtw |
23:56.03 | Gnarfoz | that TweetCraft client someone linked earlier? |
23:56.15 | Gnarfoz | that's a WPF app and it has smooth borders ;o |
23:56.22 | nevcairiel | so? |
23:56.25 | nevcairiel | WPF is powerful stuff |
23:56.43 | Gnarfoz | well, CC4's borders are ugleh ;\ |
23:56.54 | nevcairiel | maybe someone failed at WPF |
23:57.01 | Gnarfoz | as is the weird resizing, but my ticket was marked invalid on the latter |
23:57.07 | Gnarfoz | not sure I actually opened one on the former |
23:57.16 | nevcairiel | WPF was initially released with Vista, so it better do the proper vista styling ;) |
23:57.38 | Gnarfoz | what's that supposed to mean? |
23:57.49 | nevcairiel | everything has round corners <-< |
23:57.56 | nevcairiel | and smooth borders |
23:58.08 | Gnarfoz | well, they chose to make it look like a os x app |
23:58.18 | nevcairiel | i never understood that |
23:58.20 | Gnarfoz | which of course looks totally out of place on any windows version |
23:58.31 | Gnarfoz | + it uses vista glyphs for min/max/close |
23:58.34 | nevcairiel | "Hey we'll write native clients for win and osx, but we made the win client look like osx" |
23:58.49 | nevcairiel | wtf is wrong with that dev :P |
23:59.12 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure, but how it looks is a rather small part, as long as it works and is usable |
23:59.30 | Gnarfoz | diminshes the overall experience, though |
23:59.40 | nevcairiel | meh 3.0 worked and was usable for me |
23:59.43 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
23:59.45 | Gnarfoz | just slow. |
23:59.50 | nevcairiel | i guess |
23:59.53 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: it looks like itunes :P |
23:59.55 | Gnarfoz | just like Git Cola's insistence to do stuff on mouse down |
23:59.59 | Gnarfoz | instead of mouseup |