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00:14.27Repo10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * v2.3.1-2-gf329bd8 core.lua: [+1 commit] Even more thorough about the whole in-instance thing
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00:27.17Primerwtf, I just saw ckknight leave from #postgresql and I thought I was in the wrong channel
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00:29.17Primeri.e. here
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00:33.29HjalteDoes anyone know how to get the mana bar from GridManaBars to be on the bottom instead of the side?
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00:42.01HjalteRight, let's do an easier question then. Is higher or lower priority shown first in Grid? :)
00:42.30Codayushigher priority takes precedence, IIRC.
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01:04.16Gainin pitbull4 can I position text ABOVE a bar
01:07.30ulicI don't believe so
01:07.53ulicbut left or right outside the bar
01:08.51Gainaww
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01:08.56Gaincan I make a recommendation lol
01:09.12ulicdon't see why you couldn't
01:09.17NivFreakno
01:10.14ckknightyes, Gain
01:10.15ckknightquite possible.
01:11.07ckknightGain: position it on the frame, above left, right, center or something
01:12.55Gainckknight I want it on top of a bar
01:13.02ckknightI _just_ told you how
01:13.04Gainoh
01:13.05Gainwait
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01:14.03Gainum that only works on the unit frame
01:14.05Gainwhich is not what I want to do
01:14.09GainI want it on top of the cast bar
01:14.25ckknightgimme a screenshot.
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01:25.09Lutin`Gain: Blank Bar?
01:26.04Gainum sec
01:26.08Gainhttp://i42.tinypic.com/2s0hhfn.pngsee that there
01:26.11Gainhttp://i42.tinypic.com/2s0hhfn.png
01:27.28HjalteThat's weird. Both links work.
01:28.01Gainthe first one had see beside png :P
01:28.34HjalteYes, but the link still worked.
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01:31.40Gainthere is no blank bar there
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02:13.56Shefkickknight: @$%#$^#$^#
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02:15.19ckknightShefki: what's all this, then?
02:16.35Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r137 sdkp.lua: MOAR BUGS
02:19.02Funkeh`ckknight, I'm not sure, but I think he's trying to signify he's pissed off at something
02:19.17Shefkickknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/tickets/474-pitbull-on-ptr-0-2-0/
02:19.24Shefkihttp://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/tickets/471-pitbull-on-ptr/
02:19.36ShefkiI'm tired of this... Fix it so they can see closed tickets on their profile page or something.
02:19.45ShefkiOr it bonks them over the head and tells them I closed their ticket.
02:20.08ckknightI can do that tomorrow
02:20.12ckknightactually
02:20.17ckknightI can do it now pretty easy
02:20.29ckknightthough I do plan on having this sorted out by the subscription system
02:20.44ShefkiAt least 2 or 3 times a week someone goes and just reopens the ticket I closed because they didn't read what I wrote on it.
02:20.46Funkeh`do you now
02:22.45ckknightk, Shefki
02:25.07durcynballs.  effing algalon chest spawned but didn't activate :(
02:27.00HjalteShefki: It's hard to do anything about stupid people.
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02:38.23Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r138 whispercommands.lua: MOAR BUGS
02:56.20Gainckknight do you know how he did this - http://i42.tinypic.com/2s0hhfn.png
02:56.29Gainwhere the text is right above the castbar
02:57.49ulicare you sure that is pitbull?
03:07.10Gainum no
03:07.13Gainbut it looks like it
03:13.29ilovemrdoe~wowalert
03:13.30purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
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03:22.26Lutin`Gain: Looks like a oUF variant
03:24.56Lutin`But what do you mean by the text above it?
03:25.16Lutin`Either just shrink the cast bar a bit
03:25.25Lutin`Or use the blank bar
03:26.18Funkeh`so first tvrss.net goes "under mantenance"
03:26.27Funkeh`now eztv.it goes "under maintenance"
03:26.29Funkeh`hm...
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03:32.37quiescensthey're on to you
03:32.38quiescensrun!
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03:56.08Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r154 / (6 files in 4 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0:
03:56.10Repo- Update the PetAndMountDatabase for 3.2
03:56.14Repo- Fixes for tickets 4 and 6
03:57.04Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander 042.0.155-beta * r155 : Tagging as 2.0.155-beta
03:57.28Repo10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander 045.0.182-beta * r182 : Tagging as 5.0.182-beta
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05:33.50ArrowmasterFunkeh`: and TPB gets sold, its a conspiricy
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05:41.48ShefkiThis was crazy...
05:41.50Shefkihttp://files.shefki.org/ScreenShot_063009_211241.jpeg
05:42.10ShefkiWhen I turned in Reply Code Alpha for realm first Algalon kill.
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05:50.56TorhalShefki: Nice turnout.
05:57.38ShirikShefki: Seriously, how big of a jpeg did you post
05:57.51Shirikand is that your home computer or something?
06:00.06Shefki2560x1600
06:00.11ShefkiAnd yes that's my computer.
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06:00.19ShefkiAt home.
06:08.53Groktaromg ultimate heroic strike button
06:09.02Groktaryou know how some people bind it to their mousewheel?
06:09.22Groktari have this mouse
06:09.22Groktarhttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/130&cl=US,EN
06:09.31Groktari can set the wheel to permanently free spin in wow
06:09.47Groktarso i can flick it
06:09.52Groktarand it will spin for about 20 seconds
06:09.56Groktarspamming HS for me
06:10.16Groktarok, maybe 10 second
06:10.18Groktar+s
06:10.24Groktarbut a hell of a lot better than before
06:10.24Groktarhehe
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06:12.45bluspacecow\o
06:13.26Fiskerslaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout
06:13.28Fiskerstop it  Groktar
06:14.15bluspacecowwhats he been doing ?
06:20.14ShefkiI hate people sometimes...
06:20.16Shefki"well i have serched vor a tiket but i havent found some abute te ptr 0.2.0 sorry i cant see Invalid tikets and the id 471 was gon from my tiket system thats was why i have poste a new"
06:33.51TorhalShefki: Was your response something along the lines of "Learn to keyboard."?
06:38.09ShefkiTorhal: My response is I'm not going to bother to respond.
06:38.37TorhalShefki: Classic.
06:38.38Torhal:D
06:39.06ShefkiReally irritates me that people reopen tickets I close.
06:39.25ShefkiSo I closed the guy's 2nd ticket and then linked him to his original and basically told him to read my comment.
06:39.34TorhalHehe
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06:47.24mitch0ok
06:47.25mitch0so
06:48.05mitch0my frame positioning goes bonkers on /reload :(
06:48.39mitch0guess I need to do some ClearAllPoints()...
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07:17.23sb|workmorning
07:21.50Fiskerdie
07:22.15GroktarFisker
07:22.19Groktarif i was talking in your raid
07:22.22Groktarand you were doing IC hard
07:22.30Groktarand i was the second tank
07:22.31Fiskergentlemen
07:22.36Groktarer, third tank
07:22.48Groktarand steelbreaker was at 9%
07:22.55Groktarand i didn't call to taunt off
07:22.59Groktarwould you rage at me?
07:23.07Fiskerno
07:23.11Fiskerwhy would i?
07:23.24Groktarbecause my debuff was at 10 seconds and the first tank had gotten ressed!
07:23.35Groktarand everyone else was alive
07:23.47FiskerBut doesn't the first tank have a brain?
07:24.00Groktari also stood there and exploded
07:24.17mitch0I guess I figured out why I couldn't steal the flames from them pesky hordes
07:24.24FiskerDoesn't the rest of the raid have a brain either? :3
07:24.36mitch0looting them automatically puts the quest in your questlog, right?
07:24.46Fiskerno
07:24.50mitch0hm.
07:24.55FiskerCapital fires will give you an item you have to use
07:24.58sb|workFisker: why so SC2 today?
07:25.03FiskerAnd the other fires will just offer you a quest upon loot
07:25.09Fiskersb|work because no lan :(
07:25.10Groktarrest of the raid is supposed to just stand under boss
07:25.18Groktarso the wrong people don't get disruption
07:25.21Groktarthis is 25 man
07:25.25mitch0hm. I just got burned when I looted the flames
07:25.33FiskerGroktar i can still think for myself
07:25.33Fisker:o
07:25.42Groktarand this was also the attempt after i forgot to blow cooldowns on the first fusion punch
07:25.43Groktarand died
07:25.54Fisker:(
07:26.10Fiskerok
07:26.11Fiskeri give up
07:26.21Fiskeri'd tear you apart and delete your wow account
07:27.44Groktarhehe
07:27.49Groktari was so pissed off
07:28.09Groktaroh, and the attempt BEFORE that i had a resisted taunt and resisted challenging shout
07:28.20Groktarand i didn't have mocking blow on my bars anymore
07:28.23Groktar:(
07:28.42Fiskeri'd kill you irl
07:32.55Fiskeryou're not calling the police right?
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07:38.46Elkanoif you were US, you'd be swatted by now ;)
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07:43.36mitch0do I have to call ClearAllPoints if my "anchor" point doesn't change between SetPoint() calls?
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07:45.16Repo10broker_sysmon: 03profalbert * r59 / (3 files in 1 directory): color values using libcrayon
07:45.34Shefkimitch0: Not 100% sure.  Try it and find out. :P
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07:47.47Repo10range-display: 03mitch0 * r236 RangeDisplay.lua:
07:47.50Repohopefully fix the mouse-anchored positioning wackyness on reload/relog
07:50.12Fiskeroh no Groktar
07:50.15Fiskeri'm killing you
07:50.17Fiskerwith a stick
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07:50.43Groktarfinds this erotic
07:50.50Groktarpolitely asks Fisker to eat him after he's dead
07:53.39mitch0LibLordFarlander-2.0 <- this one always makes me chuckle :)
07:55.37Shefkimitch0: That's the ultimate in ego driven development IMHO.
07:56.52Fiskeri need to reboot my computer
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08:05.45mitch0~seen [Ammo]
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08:06.04mitch0[ammo]: ping
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08:36.14CheadsWindfury PTR: Currently there is no internal cooldown and apparently it can proc from itself.    Please let that go live :O)
08:37.28Cheadsoh well, seems like there's still quite a while till 3.2 goes live
08:37.40Megalonall procs are borked
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09:03.40Caleb|~seen vhaaarr
09:03.41purli haven't seen 'vhaaarr', Caleb|
09:03.46Caleb|~seen vhaarr
09:03.47purlvhaarr is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 38 messages. Is idling for 1d 11h 25m 1s, last said: 'Fisker: actually having him stay holy with a glyphed guardian spirit + tank using glyphed last stand+shield wall and 2 trinkets is better than PS'.
09:08.27mitch0gonna say farewell to Violation, giving Skada a try
09:10.26Groktarcurls into mitch0's air conditioning ducts
09:10.28Groktardies
09:10.46mitch0conditioning ducts...?
09:12.28Groktarno air conditioner?
09:12.31Groktarpoor mitch0
09:12.32Groktar:(
09:12.38Megalonpawlow ducts? :(
09:12.40mitch0is Skada a good replacement for Omen?
09:13.12mitch0actually, does Omen do anything "extra" or all of the threat data is provided by blizz now?
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09:14.13Zarnivoopall the threat data is provided by Blizz
09:14.33mitch0ah, here's the skada guy! :)
09:14.38mitch0so, is it any good?
09:15.22Zarnivoopworks for me
09:16.03mitch0zarnivoop: to be more serious, is it possible to set up skada to show threat with a "pull agro" bar, and only show like top 3 (or top 2 + me )?
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09:21.29Zarnivoopmitch0: there is no "pull aggro" bar. you can make it show only the top 3.
09:21.41Xinhuanmitch0, omen uses the "raw threat value" for its display
09:21.52Xinhuanskada uses the "scaled threat %" for its display
09:22.01ZarnivoopXinhuan: Skada can use either
09:22.03mitch0uh. what does that mean? :)
09:22.17Xinhuanwell, for players in melee range, you pull aggro at 110% of the tank's threat
09:22.18mitch0(the 1.3 multiplier for range?)
09:22.23Xinhuanfor ranged, you pull at x1.3
09:22.38Xinhuanblizzard's scaled % scales the 110% and 130% to a value between 0 and 100%
09:22.49Xinhuanso if you walk in and out of a boss's melee range, your % will jump up/down
09:23.12Xinhuanand skada will also re-sort you based on the scaled %, so you can have higher threat but lower %, for eg
09:23.26Xinhuanbut Zarnivoop says you can use either
09:23.27Xinhuanso :)
09:23.41Zarnivoopyes. Skada has an option letting you choose.
09:23.50Xinhuanit makes a far more intuitive sense to show/use the raw value though
09:24.15mitch0xin: yeah but only along with the pull-agro bar, imo
09:24.22Xinhuanand the "pull aggro" bar is just a fake inserted player with 130% (or 110%) of the tank's threat
09:24.55mitch0xin: do you do your own range checking to switch or you figure out from the scaled %?
09:25.03Xinhuani do my own range checking
09:25.17Xinhuanusing a quest item (red ruby acorn, quest in dragonblight)
09:25.24Xinhuanthat has a 5 yard range
09:25.48Xinhuanomen will only request this item at most once per login session if it isn't in your local cache
09:25.52mitch0yeah, I remember when you added that, I just thought that maybe using the scaled % would be more efficient/easier
09:26.07Xinhuanfloating point calculations are tricky
09:26.45Xinhuanand wouldn't be more efficient, once you figure out that you have to call math.floor() or otherwise
09:26.52Xinhuanor math.abs
09:27.03mitch0actually, I still miss the old pullout bar from omen
09:27.18Xinhuanto figure out if the raw% vs scaled% is 1.3 or 1.1
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09:27.37Xinhuanthe old pullout bar is really just the addon "MyThreat"
09:27.45Xinhuanwhich is just a bar showing you your current threat%
09:28.19mitch0the old pullout bar also showed the tank agro
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09:28.32mitch0dunno if that actually made any sense, but I got used to it anyway ;)
09:28.38Xinhuanno it doesn't :)
09:29.23Xinhuanthe other difference between skada and omen is that skada has threat updates throtled to.. every 1 sec?
09:29.28Xinhuanomen throtles to per-frame
09:29.37Zarnivoop0.5s
09:30.14Xinhuanomen additionally also shows threat of players/pets/tanks and other things that aren't necessarily in your party/raid
09:30.41Xinhuanfor example, in sunwell, kalecgos NPC will tank the demon (in the portal world)
09:30.51Xinhuanomen will show the threat value of that NPC tank
09:31.14Xinhuanif it is reachable thru "raidXtarget" for eg
09:31.44Xinhuanor "targettarget"
09:35.08Xinhuanand of course, omen shows TPS (though not all that useful really)
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09:37.38mitch0yeah, that's just "flicker" to me :)
09:40.15Repo10tinykos: 03profalbert 07master * v0.3-beta-4-g9c11e49 Core.lua: [+1 commit] readd list-manipulation-methods
09:42.21orionshockarg...
09:42.23orionshocktom tom
09:42.54orionshocktom tom  + routes + sexymap with "hudMode" on don't work well.. least tom tom's arrow dosn't update properly :\
09:44.02Arrowmasterhow is that even possible now that GetPlayerFacing() or whatever it is is used
09:44.10orionshockdon't know
09:44.19Xinhuandoesn't update properly?
09:44.22orionshockAntiarc: Sexymap and TomTom are not playing nicely in bed
09:44.33Arrowmasteror does sexymap end up breaking that function with hudmode?
09:44.41Arrowmasterif so thats a wow bug
09:44.43orionshockXinhuan: the arrow moves around via direction - but distance / time and w/ routes will not pop to the next node
09:45.15Xinhuanah so the callback in tomtom isn't working
09:45.27orionshock<PROTECTED>
09:45.38orionshock<PROTECTED>
09:46.16Groktarso i just put on the 1953 peter pan for nostalgia
09:46.20Groktarfirst line
09:46.53Groktar"all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again"
09:47.12Groktari started laughing
09:48.43orionshockand the frustrating part; periodically the arrow will ghost and not pop to the next waypoint at the 30yrd range. then once i do reach the waypoint it all turns off
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10:03.12Fiskerthis is fucking awesome
10:03.17FiskerPeople arguing for DRM
10:03.30Fiskerpulls a Sins of a Solar Empire crits for massive damage
10:03.44Fisker"But Sins of a Solar Empire only did well because of a hardcore fanbase"
10:03.52FiskerOh yeah and Blizzard don't have a hardcore fanbase?
10:04.14FiskerBetter yet how can you have a "hardcore" fanbase when the product is a new intellectual property made by a completely unknown developer?
10:04.36Megalonvisionary fanbois
10:04.37MegalonFFS
10:04.40phyberif it gets DRM, at least the hardcore can shout "CASUALS WIN AGAIN!"
10:05.45Fiskeroh yeah Megalon :D
10:06.36Groktarsteals Fisker's food
10:07.09Megalonsteals Fisker's hoof
10:09.51Fiskertrolls don't have hooves
10:11.10hastesteals Fisker veltemaskin.
10:11.41Groktarhides a goa'uld in haste's pillow
10:14.29hastehides a despair squid under Groktar's pillow.
10:14.33Fiskernoooooooooooooo
10:14.42Fiskerprøver at vælte haste men Fisker kan ikke vælte
10:17.03Fiskerhaste
10:17.07Fiskerhjælp jeg kan ikke vælte :(
10:18.36Fiskerhaste
10:18.38Fiskersc2beta?
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10:19.09hasteI run linux!
10:19.13hastenot like I care much anyway :D
10:19.37Fiskerlinux sux
10:19.44Fiskerget me sc2beta
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10:22.06hasteno.
10:23.48Fiskeryes.
10:24.06Groktarsc2beta
10:24.19FiskerGroktar
10:24.21Fiskersc2beta
10:26.05Groktarsc2beta fun time no
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10:30.52Groktaraccidently the whole Fisker
10:34.35SunTsu.o0( disgusting )
10:35.09FiskerLOL
10:35.20FiskerThis guy talking about copy protection just went back on everything he said
10:35.53vithoshaste, i think some oUF bugs with vehicles: sometimes it keeps my (hunter) pet's name on the pet frame; when this is the case, the vehicle energy bar works. sometimes the vehicle name appears, but then the energy bar is just solid white and doesn't move
10:35.57FiskerI told him that Copy Protection didn't win anti-piracy but features, community, demos, etc. did which is why Steam was so popular
10:36.05FiskerThen he said Steam was only popular because Steam was hard to crack
10:36.17vithosunless it's a bug with the layout i'm using (coree)
10:36.28FiskerSo i told him Steam wasn't hard to crack, scene rules just usually block a release
10:36.45FiskerNow he's telling me that with a hacked Steam game i don't get all the features, the community, etc.
10:36.46FiskerxD
10:36.54Fiskeri just love it when people own themselves
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10:37.58mitch0you do that a lot here
10:38.05mitch0:P
10:38.57Fiskernaw
10:39.03Fiskerthat's what you believe
10:39.08FiskerWhich is what's so funny
10:39.14FiskerJust like this guy who just thought he owned me
10:39.20FiskerBut infact he just owned himself
10:39.32FiskerOf course he'll probably say "LALALA YOU DIDN'T OWN ME" and then leave the discussion
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10:39.37Fiskerjust like you guys do
10:39.42mitch0:)
10:40.02hastevithos: are you able to re-create it tho'?
10:40.06mitch0sometimes you're almost funny. most of the times though just annoying ;)
10:40.26Fiskerof course mitch0
10:40.30Fisker~fisker--
10:41.18Fiskergo mitch0
10:41.19Fiskerdo it
10:41.21mitch0needs a stupid simple castbar replacement that adds latency info
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10:41.49mitch0all the castbar replacements include the kitchen-sink, too :(
10:42.05hasteand the latency info isn't really useful anymore
10:42.18hasteWoW does a very good job in 3.0 at doing it for you
10:42.20vithoshaste: it's happened every time i do flame leviathon. i don't know another vehicle i could use to try to replicate it, do you? i just started playing the game again
10:42.21mitch0sometimes I do /stopcasting; /cast
10:43.00Repo10gridstatusignored: 03Cyprias * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridStatusIgnored: 1.1
10:43.02hastevithos: which vehicle etc?
10:43.12hastethe more information the merrier :p
10:43.18vithosthe seige one
10:43.31vithosi'll find the exact name
10:43.56hasteit's the ones to the right?
10:44.01vithoshttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=33060
10:44.18vithosi've always been a passenger in it
10:44.27vithosuh. i've never actually seen where they start, i always zone in late
10:45.03hasteI'll position myself as a passanger on one of those tomorrow then
10:45.06hasteunless I forget :p
10:45.39vithosi believe several quest vehicles had the same problem while i was leveling but i was in too much of a hurry to care about it at the time
10:46.00hasteit sounds odd, but it might be some issue with pet classes
10:46.11hasteI don't have any myself, so I can't exactly test it
10:46.18vithosbut usually what happens is the first time i get in it'll have the correct name, then after i exit/re-enter the name goes back to my pet's name but the energy works
10:46.44vithoshmm.. unfortunately i'm saved to both raids already
10:46.51hastewhat version of oUF and the layout?
10:46.55hasteand possible plugins
10:47.56vithos1.3.16 / coree 3.12 / ouf_quickhealth2 (don't see a version, but current)
10:50.35vithosoh maybe that new battleground's vehicles could be used to reproduce it
10:50.37vithosi'll go try
10:52.23hastetry with Lily as well if it happens
10:54.00hasteand without plugins for that matter
10:54.02vithosthese vehicles don't use energy :(
10:54.16vithosbut the pet name stuck anyway
10:54.19vithosi'll try your layout
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10:59.07vithosi don't even see a pet frame on Lily
10:59.09vithosis there one?
10:59.17hasteyes
10:59.27hastemight be due to UIScale tho'
11:00.07vithosi don't use uiscale
11:00.16vithosbut my player frame is at the very bottom
11:00.23vithosis it under that?
11:00.29hasteyep
11:00.53haste/run local p=oUF.units.pet p:ClearAllPoints() p:SetPoint"CENTER"
11:00.57hastequick fix of doom
11:01.16vithosi turned on uiscale for now
11:04.26vithosok, Lily shows the vehicle as myself, and myself as its pet
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11:05.04vithosi mean, player=vehicle, playerpet=me
11:05.39hasteso it works fine in other words
11:05.58vithosat least the names do yeah
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11:06.51vithosand the health
11:07.01vithosbut yeah, i'll have to find something else to see about energy
11:08.19vithosprobably just the layout that's bugged
11:10.14orionshockgrr....
11:10.16orionshockhttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=281995#post281995
11:10.30orionshockget it straight please. details and specifics are important :P
11:14.23Arrowmastertheres many other details and specifics i would have gone after first
11:14.43Arrowmasteri saw that post when nobody had replied yet and just didnt know what to say
11:15.34orionshocksorry, last time i looked at someone's code for a review ( was surprising tbh) i ended up rewriting their code completely for them.
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11:35.58Fiskerhaste
11:36.00Fiskerskal vi 31108?
11:37.52Fiskerslaps haste around a bit with a large trout
11:38.40hastewat
11:39.25Fisker31108?
11:39.44Fiskerdu skal vælte skærmen på hovedet for at få det
11:39.50Fiskerforstå*
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11:51.38Fiskergrib mine boller haste
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12:03.11Fiskerhttp://i41.tinypic.com/mmwrxt.jpg
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12:03.46Lukianwhat's that from? :>
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12:11.36Fiskerblizzard Lukian
12:12.02p4avedthey dont' have an aussie time at the bottom :(
12:12.41Fiskerbecause they hate you
12:13.30p4avedi refuse to belive that
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12:20.24vhaarrprofalbert: wtf I don't want colored sysmon displays
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12:20.40profalbertag said it was OK
12:20.53vhaarrwell I'm the maintainer, he's not
12:20.57profalbertoh, sorry
12:21.27profalbertit should say on the project page then imho
12:21.35Groktarhides a goa'uld underneath profalbert's pillow
12:22.01vhaarrit should, but ag is never here
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12:22.18Fiskerthe goa-uld
12:23.12Repo10addon-loader: 03Ammo 04r100-release * r101 : Tagging as r100-release
12:23.48Groktarworships the god profalbert
12:24.34Repo10broker_sysmon: 03Rabbit * r60 / (2 files in 1 directory): Crayon will only be used if found in some other addon.
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12:27.03profalbertvhaarr: you might want to remove the .pkgmeta as well, I guess
12:27.10vhaarryou never added it
12:27.17vhaarrso actually it was broken
12:27.38vhaarryou didn't add a toc reference either
12:29.00profalbertwell, r60 packed with LibCrayon
12:29.50vhaarrgrrr
12:30.33vhaarr.pkgmeta wasn't updated from a svn update . --ignore-externals, for some reason
12:30.37Repo10broker_sysmon: 03Rabbit * r61 .pkgmeta: Kill crayon.
12:39.05steev@project silverdragon
12:39.06Reposteev: No project found that matches 'silverdragon'
12:39.11steevmeh
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12:39.46steevtryin to figure out why it dings for a mob in dragonblight when i'm in zul'drak
12:46.12steevinteresting changes to arena gear
12:46.37steev2s = previous season, 3s+ = current season
12:48.08Fiskeri'm quite bored
12:48.11Fiskersc2 beta?
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12:53.53Fiskerfffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-
12:55.28Adirelle|workhrm ?
13:01.17steevwoot
13:01.25steevjust put the smack down on some tard in australia
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13:20.57steevsigh
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13:21.14steevwe're never gonna get vezax down
13:21.24steevwtb non-scrub guild on US-Sen'jin
13:24.18EvilJohn-shadow crashes killing your ranged?
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13:30.57steevEvilJohn-: no... the guild is just... retarded
13:31.12EvilJohn-that sucks
13:31.13EvilJohn-transfer
13:31.16steevhere's a most recent post from one of our warlocks - or how it starts out
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13:31.39steev"I don't think its a good choice, to get mana people doing tasks, when they don't regen mana."
13:31.51hastewat?
13:32.03steevthey insist on kiting him
13:32.30steevwhile kiting he gets outside dk/rogue range when whatever that debuff is called wears off
13:32.53steevso someone said, at that time, have a mage or shaman interrupt him until melee are back in range
13:33.19pentium166our warrior runs away when he buffs himself and the melee is always able to keep up
13:33.55steevi can for the most part
13:34.01steevbut every once in a while
13:34.07steevhe's suddenly out of range
13:34.19steevand i typically have around 80ms to our server
13:34.36pentium166wtb
13:34.42steev(and im not an entirely baddie)
13:34.48steevour dps warrior though
13:34.56steevcan i just /cry
13:35.02steevi much prefer 10s
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13:35.54steevi hate running with 25s because there are too many slackers imo
13:36.01steevand i still don't have f'n raider status
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13:36.13steev"cuz there are 3 other raider dk's"
13:37.01Brunerssteev: then you need to be better than them
13:37.27steevBruners: the only ones that are better than me are the ones in 4 piece t8.5 (im in 2 t7.5, 2 t8)
13:37.50steevi'm still using ied, they've got weapons from 25 uld
13:37.51zoktarwhat app are ppl using for git in windows, using tortoisesvn for svn..
13:38.00steevzoktar: git
13:38.13zoktarit has gui ? =)
13:38.15profalbertzoktar: msysgit
13:38.21profalbertzoktar: yep
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13:39.04zoktarhttp://msysgit.googlecode.com/files/Git-1.6.3.2-preview20090608.exe that 1 ?
13:39.05Adirelle|workthere's a tortoisegit too, that is built over msysgit
13:39.16steevBruners: i way out dps one of the ones who is better geared :(
13:41.18steevhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ttFVzhBLvTg1mNyu/ here's a wol of the 25th i think ( i was brought in for 2 attempts at vezax right at the end of the run)
13:42.40steevalthough to be honest, i still haven't figured out how the hell to use wol
13:43.14sztanpetanybody else notice that ff3.5 randomly flickers the mouse?
13:44.33pentium166nope
13:44.51pentium166it does stall for quite a while on startup though
13:45.42sztanpetsteev nice, a mage with 14 shadow crash hits
13:45.56sztanpetwe had a lock with 19, nobody beat that record yet
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13:53.25sylvanaaris there finally a tortoisegit?
13:53.51sylvanaargoogles
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13:54.42sylvanaari hope is doesnt suck
13:54.54steevits tortoise, it will
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13:56.11profalbertmay be as slow as every other git-implemenation for windows?
13:56.23sb|workmh gurtle looks nice
13:56.28sb|workhttp://code.google.com/p/gurtle/
13:57.39Elkanowell, I'm using totroisegit now for some time ^^
13:58.09sylvanaari just really like tortoise svn, and if there is a git version thats decent, i might try git finally
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14:00.58odtwhats git
14:01.10odtsvn related?
14:01.10hastebestest scm!
14:01.11bluspacecowversion control software
14:01.17bluspacecow~git
14:01.54odtah, git it was linus made because he didn't like svn
14:02.17bluspacecowits where tekkub works !
14:02.48odtcool
14:03.50Elkanoone more reason not to use it ;)
14:04.24hastehow does tekkub work at git :p ?
14:04.32kadrahili have to start doing dailies again because i'm broke :(
14:04.39bluspacecowwait
14:04.45bluspacecowi thought it was him that worked there
14:04.54bluspacecowhe mentioned it in a curse vs wowmatrix thread
14:05.05bluspacecowwait isnt it torhal
14:05.25hasteyou can't work at git
14:05.30Funkeh`lol
14:05.34hastehe can work on git and with git
14:05.35hastebut not at it
14:05.43bluspacecowrofls
14:05.47hasteunless there actually is a company named git!
14:05.49bluspacecowsome git company anyway
14:05.52hastegithub
14:05.55bluspacecowgithub
14:05.57Funkeh`I'm making a git company
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14:07.57kadrahilis it called gitrdone
14:08.04kadrahilbecause that would be pretty epic
14:08.08kadrahilFunkeh`
14:09.16Kalrothgitoffmahporch
14:09.23kadrahil:D
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14:15.39mitch0how long does this project approval thing last usually?
14:17.08nicoli_suntil someone gets around to approving it
14:18.40mitch0I need the repo to easily transfer stuff from work to home where I can actually test all this drycode shit :)
14:19.04mitch0I could of course just copy to a USB stick or somesuch, but that's less elegant ;)
14:19.41profalbertrepo needs approval too? I think you can use the repo, but nothing gets packaged until approved
14:19.51mitch0oh, cool
14:19.54SunTsuprofalbert: yeah
14:19.57mitch0lemmi try
14:22.04Pneumatusany ulduar25 disc priests about? :P
14:23.58ckknightprofalbert: actually, things still might get packaged...
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14:26.12sb|workPneumatus: yup
14:26.19mitch0doh, errorz
14:26.30sb|workif about=around ;)
14:27.04Pneumatussb|work: ever seen any discussion anywhere about if/when revitalizing skyflare or ember skyflare metas are better than insightful earthsiege
14:27.11Pneumatusbecause i don't belive rawr.
14:27.39sb|workhm not sure at this point
14:27.46sb|workso i will stick to insightful
14:28.33Pneumatusive got like 31k mana raid buffed now, so i know that ember's 2% mana gives me more mana than insightful, and at the moment mp5 appears to be about the same
14:28.58Pneumatusand ember is a far better choice for vezax hard anyway
14:29.19sb|work31k wtf :)
14:29.28kadrahilT_T
14:29.34sb|workgiev armory ;0
14:30.01Pneumatushttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&cn=Ismo&gn=Vision
14:30.02kadrahili haven't used rawr in forever
14:30.27Pneumatusi do gem for int though :)
14:30.28sb|workokay
14:30.31sb|workpandora's plea...
14:30.33sb|workthats it ;)
14:30.39Pneumatusyeh, thats like 2k+ alone
14:30.57sb|workhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=khaz'goroth&n=Smb - thats me
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14:31.55grizzfrobhello seasoned WoW addon developers, i have a question regarding the OnCancel callback of StaticPopupDialog
14:32.17Pneumatusheh, gear isnt that dissimilar
14:32.23grizzfrobfor some reason i always get "nil" for my reason when i use the "OnCancel = function(data,reason)" construct
14:32.28Pneumatuspandora's plea would put you at basically the same mana pool as me
14:32.40Pneumatusi want the algalon10 trinket to go with pandoras
14:32.41grizzfrobis there something obvious somebody can point out that i'm doing wrong?
14:33.09sb|workpandroa's plea never dropped for us... *sigh*
14:33.18Pneumatuswe've had 2
14:33.53sb|workand i don't have guiding star since i have some fragments and don't want to take weapons from other healers...
14:34.07Pneumatusfair play
14:34.24sb|worksome = 23 actually, but like 1 drop last 2 IDs :/
14:34.27sb|worksucks
14:34.29Pneumatusour paladin collecting fragments has 22/23 i think
14:34.37Pneumatuslast 2 weeks we've only had 1 per run
14:34.39Pneumatusfrom yogg
14:34.41sb|workyup
14:34.42sb|worksame here
14:35.21Pneumatusbut yeh, rawr has suddenly decided that insigtful is only the 3rd best meta for me :o
14:35.45Pneumatusbehind revitalizing as best, and ember as 2nd best
14:36.05Pneumatusi feel like im missing some maths though, because i cant see why revitalizing would be better for mp5 AND throughput than insightful
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14:37.01WobinI quite like the Alganon event in Dalaran
14:37.12Wobinalthough it was a bit anticlimactic
14:37.18Wobinthe voice acting was nice
14:41.06steevi've not seen it, although i've heard about it
14:41.14steevi don't normally hang out in dalaran :(
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14:42.47steevhopes he has the money to afford a talent respec on his rogue
14:43.09steevim pretty sure i sent most of my money to my toon that i transferred off that server :(
14:43.19EvilJohn-it takes a 2000 dollar computer to want to hang out in dalaran
14:43.26EvilJohn-and even then...
14:43.26steevhaha
14:43.38steevi wouldn't mind if one of our tanks hung out there
14:43.48steevin fact, i kinda wish she would hang there and stop coming to raids
14:44.15mitch0;)
14:44.23steevshe's terribad
14:44.31steevand she thinks im a jerk :-D
14:45.24steevshe begs us to bring her shadow priest to 10 uld - so we allow her - she doesn't even push 2k dps... and something drops and shes like guys i don't know if i should take that, i don't know shadow
14:45.57Pneumatusah, ive found the problem
14:46.11Pneumatusthe insightful proc in the priest model is broked
14:46.19Pneumatusso its not taking the mp5 into account
14:47.35Pneumatusediting insightful to 55mp5 works :)
14:48.19zoktardamn lost my custom condition for bt4, anyone know how to show on mouseover and or in combat otherwise fade?. in custom condition visibility tab.
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15:09.41BelazorEvilJohn: 3.0 GHz Quad Core, 8GB RAM and a 9800 GTX = 9 FPS in Dalaran.
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15:18.01TorhalYola
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15:21.40Pneumatussooo, are there any LDB displays yet that replicate every feature of fubar?
15:23.27bluspacecowi like fortress myself
15:23.36bluspacecowyou can move stuff around easily
15:23.37Brunersall of them, except the making of the black bar
15:23.44bluspacecowlike lego
15:24.15TorhalPneumatus: What's missing from FuBar that DockingStation had?
15:24.37Pneumatuslast time i looked at dockingstation it didnt have center-align
15:24.42TorhalIf you're talking about the right-click menu for the pligins, no display will ever do that since the plugins themselves can assign a right-click
15:24.47TorhalBullshit
15:24.51TorhalIt's had it since day 1.
15:24.59SunTsuPneumatus: I used that
15:25.11TorhalLeft/center/right sections.
15:25.25Pneumatuscenter section != center align
15:26.08TorhalHalf-asleep != cognizant
15:26.35TorhalCenter align as in?
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15:26.44TorhalThe bar or the lpugins on it?
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15:26.52Torhals/lpugins/plugins/
15:26.55Pneumatusdockingstation iirc had a center block, but the plugins would only left/right align in that block
15:27.04Pneumatusnot center-align within the block
15:27.12BrunersI don't understand your issue
15:27.42Pneumatusit was an issue for plugins which changed width
15:28.01Pneumatusit may not be a problem anymore, ive not attempted to switch over again for a while
15:28.07TorhalAs far as I can tell, they center-align by default. I have two bars, and the plugins on the lower one are centered perfectly compared to the ones on the upper bar
15:28.14TorhalAh
15:28.27TorhalThat issue still exists
15:28.41Pneumatusfor example, i use Location Fu center-aligned in the middle block of fubar, and it changes width quite drastically
15:28.44TorhalI put Broker_Speed on the right so the plugins don't dance around.
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15:30.10PneumatusDockingStation and ChocolateBar seem to be the two that look most promising atm
15:30.10Brunershow can you open the PVP/Battleground queue window?
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15:30.26Brunersi like statblockcore
15:30.36PneumatusBruners: pvp frame, select the battlegrounds tab?
15:30.54Brunersthe function to open the frame
15:31.09Brunersand the name of the frame
15:31.57PneumatusPVPParentFrame:Show() probably works
15:32.05Pneumatusthere's a binding for it in default ui also
15:32.10bluspacecowidk bruners ...if i was on the PTR I could use Blizz's new built debug tools to find it
15:33.21BrunersPneumatus: works
15:36.46steevH is the default keybinding
15:37.06Brunersi know this
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15:37.53bluspacecowhas that chnaged in 3.2 ?
15:40.22PneumatusCC 4.0 login server dead?
15:40.36Brunersworking here
15:41.59nicoli_sat some point i think adamar changed something with it last night to move it to a better server or something
15:42.28nicoli_sim able to login just fine pneumatus
15:42.37nicoli_sdid yall test the cool new feature yet?
15:42.46Pneumatusjust closed and re-opened and got a client update
15:43.01Pneumatusit needs to tell me there are client updates while its running tbh
15:43.06Pneumatuswithout me having to check
15:43.41steevwut?
15:43.55nicoli_si think it does check every so often pneumatus, how long have you had it open?
15:45.06Brunersdoes not check for updates here either
15:45.12Pneumatus2 weeks, roughly
15:45.31Brunersbut i think i reported that already to michael
15:45.39nicoli_sk
15:46.13Pneumatusoh goody, a feature i'll never use when there are still several features i miss from the old client
15:46.54Pneumatusand no indication what it does, just a button :<
15:46.55nicoli_slike?
15:47.04Pneumatuschangelog and info pane, to name 2
15:47.06nicoli_spneumatus, turn on button labels
15:47.11nicoli_sthose are both coming
15:47.14Pneumatusyeh, it says sync
15:47.14nicoli_sbefore release
15:47.16Pneumatuswhat does it sync with
15:47.22Pneumatuswhat does it sync
15:47.27Pneumatuswhy does it want to sync
15:48.18nicoli_sif you click it it has text that explains what it does
15:48.19nicoli_si'd copy and paste it but its not selectable
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15:48.53Pneumatussyncing addons alone doesn't seem very useful
15:48.53Pneumatusdoes it sync the whole WTF folder with it?
15:48.53nicoli_sit does for people who dont play in the same place
15:49.01nicoli_si dont think so pneumatus
15:49.02nicoli_sits also helpful for people with multiple wow installs
15:49.34FiskerThink it would be slightly more useful if it would have an option to sync the savedvars
15:49.39BrunersPneumatus: it will sync saved variables at some point, yes
15:49.48Fiskerobviously not the config as you're not nessecarily likely to have the same achievable config
15:50.11nicoli_sif its a feature you want, file a ticket :)
15:50.12BrunersPneumatus: if you have two places you and two computers, syncing is really nice
15:50.19nicoli_sgod im starting to sound like ckknight
15:50.31Fiskeri want you nicoli_s
15:50.37nicoli_sis taken
15:50.38Fiskercan i put in a ticket for that? :3
15:50.40Fisker:(
15:50.54Brunersi think the problem with syncing saved variables is different monitor resolutions
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15:51.01Pneumatusif you play from 2 locations, installing the same addons on each place is trivial (as is keeping them updated)
15:51.22Pneumatusso i don't really see the use aside from saving maybe 5 mins selecting a list of addons in the CC
15:51.31BrunersPneumatus: you sir, is trivial
15:51.46nicoli_spneumatus, its not menat to be like this super huge omg feature, just something that makes things more convenient for people
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15:52.32Pneumatusfair enough, its just frustrating that core features of 3.x are being pushed back by stuff like that
15:52.47BrunersPneumatus: what features?
15:52.53Pneumatuschangelog and infopane
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15:53.01nicoli_swell popping up a changelog is pretty trvial
15:53.10nicoli_sand addon info pane is sure to make it in before beta
15:53.11Brunersthat is something i would call trivial
15:53.40Brunersi think they are holding back the addon info to get it more polished than the old one
15:53.57Brunersno more wall of unformatted text
15:54.25nicoli_swell that and net loves new features
15:54.38Pneumatusstuff is gonna get missed, the way its going
15:54.48Brunersmissed?
15:55.29nicoli_si wouldnt say so pneumatus
15:56.48nicoli_stheres still plenty of time before release, and i know michael is still working his ass off on it daily, and hes not the type that would just leave out features like that
15:57.17nicoli_splus, although we arent yet using it this way, the sync addons stuff could be used so that guilds could make sure everyone has at least a certain list of addons and such
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15:57.58Brunershe updates issues on the fly when i report them :)
15:58.40Pneumatuswell, it does less than cc3 does for me, so it doesnt get used atm
15:58.56nicoli_sthats why its still alpha silly
15:59.05Pneumatusit just sits there looking pretty, while cc3 actually gives me the info i need
16:00.08nicoli_swell lemme put it this way, one of the main complaints we got about the old one was the design, so this time around, its one of the first things to get polish
16:00.35Pneumatusyeh, looking pretty is far more important than being functional
16:00.37Brunersthe old design was not bad
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16:01.08BrunersPneumatus: it is functional, addin pretty things like changelogs and addon info is not
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16:27.34Repomodify Gascloud collector and make a new funktion to get the other casclouds
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16:43.38zoktargah, is there an easy way to checkout/update from GIT ?
16:44.07Brunersgit clone giturl
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16:55.03yoshimoogrimmar<-> thunderbuff isnt it?
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16:57.44Droolioyoshimo: yea
16:59.49yoshimogrom gol <-> kargath <-> uc would be more useful ;) it takes 8-12 minutes to get to the blackrock
17:02.09Droolioheh, tis quite far out indeed
17:02.53yoshimo*uses her shiny blue blizzard icon at the minimap*
17:02.58Drooliothorium point would be ideal for a base. goblins
17:04.05yoshimoyeah, ill suggest it later
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17:26.28steevanyone got a good "resto shaman for nubs in wotlk" thread somewhere?
17:26.48steevthere was an awesome thread about resto shamans in bc, but i can't seem to find an updated version of it
17:26.51yoshimoelitistjerks? thinktank / shaman forum?
17:27.37steevbeen looking through ej - maybe resto shamaning hasn't changed that much :-P
17:29.38Brunerswhat is the command to promote people to guild master?
17:29.58NeoTronBruners: /gdisband
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18:26.28jamesjrHi everyone.  I am a moderator for a game in BETA mode called Nanover.  I was hoping we could get some testers which will provide feedback on the registration process and the overall general aspects of the game.  If you are interested, you may send me an e-mail at wilmingtonestates@gmail.com and download the game at http://www.epitrack.com/redir.aspx?CID=25596&AFID=65561&DID=111604&SID=beta ...Please e-mail me your comments/suggestions
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18:57.47Repo10little-wigs-tbc: 03yoshimo * r13 / (2 files in 2 directories): More deDE updates
18:58.32Repo10auto-invite: 03idefix6 * r41 / (2 files in 1 directory):
18:58.35RepoFixed problem with french translation for class death knight (Thank to Galiorion to provide a working version).
18:58.38RepoAdded Death Knight to exceptions for french language.
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19:23.33Repo10auto-invite: 03idefix6 * r42 / (3 files in 1 directory): Fixed a bug for all classes with a space in them.
19:25.06Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r73 EnsidiaFails.lua: fix: stats reporting to self
19:29.26Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r74 EnsidiaFails.lua: trying to fix ticket 19 (switching local channels)
19:46.37Repo10visualheal: 03xbeeps * r28 VisualHeal.lua:
19:46.41RepoAdd support for ConfigMode (see http://www.wowwiki.com/ConfigMode)
19:49.42pentium166ooh
19:50.02pentium166that looks nice
19:51.10ShefkiHmm interesting.  PB4 should probably grow support for that.
19:52.06Repo10visualheal: 03xbeeps 048.9 * r29 : Tagging as 8.9
19:53.49ShefkiWish they'd give us a GUID for SPELLCAST_SENT
19:54.01ShefkiThe target name is inadequate really.
19:55.15pentium166Do they have a good reason to not do that?
19:55.42Shefkipentium166: Well they did when they weren't exposing GUIDs to us.
19:55.54ShefkiSince the unit id was pretty useless or might not even be valid anymore.
19:55.59durcyndoesn't CLEU/SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS include GUID?
19:56.15Shefkidurcyn: By that point in time the info is useless.
19:56.35ShefkiI was talking in context of visualheal.
19:56.54ShefkiGood example of this failing is the trash on the way to Mimiron.
19:57.02ShefkiThe vehicles have the same name.
19:57.12ShefkiSo visual heal will show all of them as being healed when you cast on one.
19:57.31Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2131 / (8 files in 3 directories): - Fix wishlist bugs & add new delet/edit/share buttons
20:02.21ckknightShefki: ConfigMode seems cool
20:03.04Shefkickknight: Should be relatively easy to do.
20:03.18ShefkiOnly thing we'd need to handle is unlocking frames and keep track of that.
20:03.27ShefkiThat we don't already handle that is.
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20:20.54Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2132 Core/LootButtons.lua: - Fix bug with Crafting items and Wishlist
20:38.18Repo10cooldown-timers2: 03Shefki * r130 Menu.lua:
20:38.20RepoWorkaround a SavedVariables corruption made by running CooldownTimers3 and CooldownTimers2
20:38.23Repoat the same time.  Without this the colors sub-menu throws an error.  ~sigh~
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21:12.40durcyni want a gun that shoots people who ask for health bars in bigwigs
21:12.54Grumwhy?
21:12.57Grumfor some bosses it is quite useful
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21:14.39durcynthere are already countless addons that display health, not to mention, oh, i dunno, focus targets
21:14.53durcynredundancy is cool
21:15.22Gruml22raid
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21:15.55durcyni beg your pardon?
21:18.09Grumstupid remarks get stupid remarks back :)
21:18.15Grumas i said, it is really useful for some bosses
21:18.41Grumfreya (3 adds), mimiron (phase4)
21:18.52wallenIron Council!
21:18.58Grumnot as much
21:19.06durcyni'm more baffled at why people refuse to use addons that are designed to do exactly that
21:19.13Grumlike what?
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21:19.20wallentrue, it's good to know when to move the small add to steelbreaker when the middle one dies though (hard mode)
21:19.43durcynbigwigs doesn't need to be some big monolithic do-everything raid addon
21:19.59durcynGrum: uh, magictargets and ysstargets, to name several on wowace specifically
21:20.02Grumso which addon other than DBM does this specific task?
21:20.46durcyni'm further baffled that anyone (at least who plays a dps class or raid leader) wouldn't want magictargets functionality outside of specific boss encounters, i use it for everything and then some
21:20.48Grumso, why dont you tell the people asking this?
21:20.50durcynperhaps i'm just strange
21:20.52durcyni do!
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21:21.20durcynyou're messing up my venting here, Grum =P
21:21.28Grumgimme a sec!
21:21.53Grumyou have no right to whine
21:21.55Grumsorry :(
21:22.02Grumit is not on the project page of bigwigs
21:22.07Grumif it is there .. you can whine all you want
21:22.12GrumAND i will join into the whining
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21:22.37durcynit shouldn't have to be
21:22.48Grumit should
21:22.54durcynit's this mentality of not wanting to try anything else that bothers me
21:22.57Grumpeople compare BigWigs with DBM directly
21:23.02GrumDBM has it -- bigwigs should as well
21:23.10durcynthat's a leap of logic
21:23.26durcyndbm and bigwigs have some overlap, i certainly wouldn't say they have the same goal
21:23.48Grumerr you are kidding me right?
21:23.59durcynno, are you kidding me?
21:24.39Grumthey do about 95% the same with slightly different philosophies.
21:24.40durcynproviding timers for boss fights is one thing, handholding and encouraging particular strategies are another
21:25.10durcynwhere bigwigs might say something is happening, dbm actually has the tenacity to tell the player to move and play an obnoxious sound from the karazhan opera?  no thanks.
21:25.16Grumyes
21:25.27Grumomg ... that is a difference in sentences in locales!
21:26.04durcyni'd say it's more deliberate than that
21:26.12durcynbut opinions are like assholes.
21:26.14Grumbesides that which other than the messages is completely identical, DBM has some 'tools' to make some stuff easier, hey even BW has em, proximity monitor anyone?
21:27.14Grumit is only really nice to point DBM users who want/need to use BigWigs into the right direction
21:27.21Grumespecially since they are not as easily found
21:27.23durcyni'm not saying i'd stop using bigwigs if the health functinality existed, but why do some silly partial per-boss implementation  when there exist addons that already provide better functionality?
21:27.38Grumthen point people at it :P
21:27.52Fiskerdurcyn
21:27.55Fiskeri made you a cookie
21:27.56durcynFisker
21:27.57Fiskerbut i ated it :(
21:28.00durcynjerk
21:28.14Fiskersorry
21:28.58durcyni should've expected as much from a dane
21:29.11Grumwe should just kill Fisker
21:29.26Grumway more fun than bickering over stupid users other than fister
21:29.53Fiskerwell i hate you too
21:29.59Fiskerjerk :(
21:30.10Grumyou like it
21:32.09Fiskeri like you
21:33.13durcynso
21:33.19durcynhow's everyone's Canaday Day
21:33.24durcynCanada even
21:33.25ckknightCanadania
21:33.41durcynI always preferred Canuckistan
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21:34.25durcynyou're so meta.
21:34.46Fisker<fffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu->
21:42.40durcynMikk: http://twitter.com/eztv_it
21:42.45durcynshhhh.
21:45.23Fiskerreported for piracy
21:45.29Fiskeryarr yarr
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23:08.45Repo10lil-sparkys-workshop: 03lilsparky * r77 / (5 files in 2 directories): -changed the layout of the cost tooltip
23:08.48Repo-added skillup factoring
23:08.51Repo-some issues persist with cost-of-reagents pricing scheme
23:10.49Repo10lil-sparkys-workshop: 03lilsparky 04r77beta * r78 : Tagging as r77beta
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23:28.22HjalteHotfixed: In the Mimiron encounter, the abilities Rapid Burst and Hand Pulse no longer cause spell pushback.
23:29.26NivFreaklol seriously?
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23:30.05GnarfozHjalte: lol
23:30.24HjalteIt's 4 minutes old on the bluetracker.
23:30.50Gnarfoznext up: Hotfixed: In the Hodir, Thorim, Freya and Mimiron encounters, the watchers start at friendly. Talk to them to make them give you loot.
23:33.03NivFreakI mean really
23:33.09NivFreakwas mimiron hard at all at this point?>
23:33.31Gnarfoznot without the hard mode
23:33.36HjalteI am pretty sure a lot of mediocre guilds are still wiping to him a couple of times each week.
23:33.40CodayusMy guild is still working in mimiron easy.  :-/
23:34.10GnarfozHjalte: I wonder how that change is going to help *them* though, ;o
23:34.14CodayusThen again, we're casual, and raid twice a week, so...yeah.  :-)
23:34.38NivFreakCodayus: my guild raids 6 hours a week, 3 hours on 2 nights
23:34.50Codayus*same*
23:34.51Gnarfozthe only thing it does is removing the need to spread out healers along the ring
23:35.11NivFreakyou don't really even need to do that now
23:35.20CodayusEr...  same, even.  I have no idea why I typed asterisks.
23:35.24NivFreakthe only advantage is bad laser barrage position
23:35.31Gnarfozwell, depending on class, it's beneficial enough to do it
23:35.46Gnarfozhum?
23:35.57Gnarfozhow does that have anything to do with barrage?
23:36.20NivFreakspreading out
23:36.22NivFreaknot the nerf
23:36.45Gnarfozyou don't spread out along the ring in p2?
23:37.03NivFreaknope
23:37.07Gnarfoz(not the restriction to "along the ring" not across the whole room, that'd be stupid)
23:37.30NivFreakI send a ranged group to the right, and one to left (relative to the door)
23:37.59NivFreakand split healers down the middle
23:38.03NivFreakor some portion of them
23:38.08Gnarfozhuh oO
23:38.32Gnarfozyou're wasting quite a bit of damage you could mitigate simply by using the entire 360 degrees then :o
23:38.42NivFreakif it's not broken...
23:39.12NivFreakyou get better healer coverage this way really
23:39.18Gnarfoz?
23:39.28Gnarfozeveryone is in range if you spread out along the ring, for everyone
23:39.29NivFreakrather than using the entire room for ranged
23:39.32Gnarfozhow can you top that :D
23:39.39NivFreakthe inner ring?
23:39.48NivFreakwe do that for 10man actually
23:39.49Gnarfozthere's a ring of lights in the floor
23:39.53NivFreakjust group up
23:39.53Gnarfozaround mimiron's base
23:39.55NivFreakyea
23:39.58NivFreakwe do that in 10man
23:40.17NivFreakI thought you meant the outter ring
23:40.29Gnarfozwhich outer ring ;|
23:40.35NivFreaklike by the door :P
23:40.51Gnarfozthe outer circumference of the entire room you mean?
23:41.24Gnarfozanyway, I meant the ring of lights around what is basically "the boss" in p2
23:42.17Gnarfozgoing further away just means you have to run further to avoid barrage, ^^
23:42.26Gnarfozanyway, he's still a pushover regardless
23:43.36NivFreakagreed
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23:47.34NeoTronadd doomfires and it's much more fun!
23:48.06NivFreakI fear mimiron hard mode though, I have bad memories of archimonde
23:48.38NivFreakI had to make a 3 strikes rule for archimonde...
23:49.11NivFreakwe had one terrible enh shaman who managed to get 2 strikes before the first real pull
23:49.30NivFreakand I think his 3rd was actually ON the first pull
23:49.36NeoTronwell
23:49.38NeoTrondon't wory
23:49.44NeoTronit's not like Archimonde
23:49.47NivFreak:)
23:49.47NeoTronit's A LOT worse.
23:49.49NivFreakhahaha
23:49.51NeoTronsince the space is SO much smaller
23:50.06NeoTronalthough main difference is it doesn't leave a dot
23:50.12NivFreakso after I replaced that shaman, we ended up with a tauren shaman
23:50.19NeoTronwhere on archi touching it was enough, here you have to stand and stay
23:50.37NivFreakit took us a number of wipes to figure out that tauren shaman at max hit range caused the fires to reverse back onto melee
23:50.48NeoTrondang taurens
23:50.50NeoTronhax
23:50.57NivFreakthat was bad :P
23:50.58NeoTrondid they fix that ?
23:51.03NivFreakdon't think so

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