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00:01.40 | kadrahil | ckknight: well, now the splash screen is behaving differently, it's showing up on ONLY the left display |
00:05.02 | ckknight | lulz |
00:05.05 | ckknight | I'm not the dev, so you know |
00:06.06 | kadrahil | ckknight: ah, ok |
00:06.14 | Torhal | ckknight: Shh. You can pretend! |
00:06.17 | ckknight | lulz |
00:11.35 | Pneumatus | i just want changelogs on the 4.0 client |
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00:15.18 | Pneumatus | changelogs FOR the 4.0 client would be nice too :) |
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00:16.23 | Torhal | Pneumatus: "Changed all WoTLK content to be easier than Karazhan was post-WoTLK. Added custom dance moves." |
00:17.40 | Megalon | "Added pay-per-genderchange, pay-per-classchange and pay-per-factionchange services, only now" |
00:18.16 | Pneumatus | which reminds me, anyone know if there's much (or any) arena skirmish action on the EU ptrs? |
00:18.23 | Torhal | "It is now possible to change your keyboard, monitor, and processor in-game." |
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00:36.42 | durcyn | the gender changes are moving to a $25 per testicle or breast, i hear |
00:37.20 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r92 Core.lua: |
00:37.23 | Repo | if no args or colorargs, then pass row as an arg to value or color function. |
00:37.25 | ulic | Can you get one of each? |
00:38.02 | ckknight | http://www.break.com/usercontent/2007/5/Westboro-God-Hates-The-World-Music-Video-292196.html |
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01:07.34 | ColinT | I'm insulted to see an upside down canadian flag in the background |
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01:43.50 | Repo | 10little-wigs-tbc: 03ananhaid * r11 / (2 files in 2 directories): LittleWigs The Burning Crusade: |
01:43.53 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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02:05.23 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r93 Core.lua: |
02:05.26 | Repo | if no args or colorargs, then pass row as an arg to value or color function. (applies to value as well) |
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02:42.43 | ckknight | how does one pronounce "Auchindoun"? |
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02:43.50 | Zhinjio | good evening |
02:44.49 | p4aved | ah shee don |
02:47.08 | ckknight | hmm |
02:47.12 | ckknight | http://www.chiaobama.com/ |
02:52.08 | Gnarfoz | I'd say "as it's spelled" but that doesn't tell you anything :D |
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03:03.22 | Repo | 10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme * r62 .hgtags: Added tag v2.2.2 for changeset f67f6b3f310c |
03:06.47 | Fisker | it's awesome btw |
03:06.52 | Fisker | Blizzard took a cup of conistency |
03:07.15 | Gnarfoz | naw, just because of the high profile of the matter ;o |
03:08.39 | Fisker | naw |
03:08.59 | Fisker | because even shitty retards noone gives a shit about got banned for exploiting FL |
03:10.42 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r94 Core.lua: |
03:10.57 | Repo | remove frames from args passed as default to color and value functions. |
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03:11.12 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r131 sdkp.lua: update format of sdkpdata.lua |
03:13.19 | robotusch | Fisker you bastard |
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03:18.05 | Fisker | i hate you Gnarfoz |
03:19.08 | Fisker | gentlemen |
03:19.13 | Fisker | msn robotusch |
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03:43.27 | Speeddymon | any admins alive? |
03:44.04 | Speeddymon | i'd like to get my project fixed.... QQ |
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04:16.38 | Lutin` | Does anyone who is handy with Pitbull happen to be around? |
04:18.05 | Stanzilla | points at ckknight |
04:18.38 | Shefki | Yes. |
04:18.42 | Lutin` | I'm just wondering if it's possible to overlay two bars on top of each other |
04:18.47 | Lutin` | Without having to code a module |
04:19.00 | Shefki | Nope. |
04:19.10 | Shefki | Why would you want to do that? |
04:19.10 | Lutin` | Not in 3 or 4? |
04:19.12 | Lutin` | Dang |
04:19.23 | Lutin` | Just aesthetics as far as portait + health bar |
04:19.40 | Shefki | Ohh well Portrait is kinda a special case. |
04:20.02 | Shefki | It's not a bar, it's an indicator. |
04:20.08 | Lutin` | Well |
04:20.10 | Shefki | You can certainly put bars over it. |
04:20.14 | Lutin` | To shape it the way I want it has to be a bar |
04:20.27 | Shefki | I think you just want control over sizing. |
04:20.40 | Lutin` | Can you resize the portrait? |
04:20.55 | Lutin` | As an indicator? |
04:21.51 | Lutin` | It doesn't appear I can |
04:22.04 | Shefki | You can't. |
04:22.12 | Lutin` | Hrmm |
04:22.12 | Shefki | There's a ticket to allow you to do that but haven't gotten to it. |
04:22.23 | Lutin` | I'll check it out |
04:22.34 | Lutin` | Never messed with WoW Lua, but might as well :P |
04:22.39 | Shefki | Portraits need some work but they're a real pain. |
04:22.46 | Shefki | Becuase the model frame stuff sucks. |
04:22.50 | Lutin` | Yarr |
04:23.20 | Lutin` | Oh |
04:23.22 | Lutin` | Well |
04:23.27 | Lutin` | It would be a hacky fix |
04:23.37 | Lutin` | But allowing spacing to be set per bar? |
04:24.05 | Shefki | Gonna be honest here. The layout engine is not the part of the code I know the most about. |
04:24.12 | Shefki | I need to really get into it and work on it. |
04:24.15 | Shefki | But I haven't much. |
04:24.26 | Shefki | So it's hard to say what is and isn't possible. |
04:25.00 | Lutin` | I'd probably be better off just writing my own using oUF or something :P |
04:25.15 | Lutin` | curses his laziness |
04:27.25 | Shefki | You know the best thing you can do is show what you want to do with a mockup. |
04:28.09 | Shefki | If you do it on the forums sometimes people come up with ways to do things that I don't even realize you can get away with. |
04:28.19 | Shefki | I know you can do some pretty funky things by typing settings in the sliders directly. |
04:28.50 | Shefki | And if not we can figure out how to do what youw ant with changes to the code. |
04:28.57 | Shefki | Not gonna promise that it'll happen tomorrow. |
04:29.13 | Shefki | But layout stuff is definately a situation. |
04:33.56 | Lutin` | Hrmm |
04:34.09 | Lutin` | Shefki: Simple question |
04:34.16 | Lutin` | What does Angle() do? :/ |
04:34.50 | Lutin` | I don't see in in the WoW API or in the Pitbull API |
04:34.56 | Lutin` | Unless I'm blind |
04:35.16 | Lutin` | And I'm pretty dang sure it isn't normally in Lua |
04:35.37 | Speeddymon | i just checked if it was in standard lua, doesn't appear to be :-) |
04:35.49 | Lutin` | Alright, that's comforting :] |
04:39.04 | Lutin` | huh |
04:39.17 | Lutin` | You can't directly search pages on wowace? |
04:39.24 | Shefki | Lutin`: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/pages/lua-texts/ |
04:40.03 | Shefki | The LuaText stuff isn't in the PitBull API becuase it's really not relevent to module authors which is who the API stuff is for. |
04:41.05 | Lutin` | oic |
04:41.06 | Lutin` | :P |
04:41.14 | Lutin` | fells slow |
04:41.17 | Lutin` | feels* |
04:41.18 | Lutin` | >_> |
04:42.48 | Shefki | Lutin`: In retrospect I wish I hadn't included Angle at all. |
04:42.53 | Shefki | Or Paren |
04:43.15 | Shefki | Because it's pretty useless because of the way Lua handles lists returned in functions. |
04:45.03 | Lutin` | Well see |
04:45.34 | Lutin` | Me being from using lua for more in depth gaming stuff ( Garry's Mod ) I immediately thought angle was like |
04:45.41 | Lutin` | pitch,yaw,roll |
04:45.51 | Lutin` | Especially when I saw %s%s%s |
04:46.00 | Lutin` | But the context would not have made any sense at all |
04:46.33 | Shefki | It's largely duplicatiing a DogTag thingy |
04:47.14 | Lutin` | I've never used Pitbull before 4 so :P |
04:47.44 | Lutin` | People keep being like USE XPERL, and they don't realize what they loose with that :P |
04:48.25 | Speeddy|A| | what do you lose with xperl |
04:48.27 | Speeddy|A| | ? |
04:48.41 | Stanzilla | taste for design :P |
04:48.55 | Lutin` | QFT |
04:49.46 | Speeddy|A| | hm .. i like xperl tho im open to other suggestions (i used aguf the last time i played wow, just happened to get xperl this time and stuck with it) |
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04:51.14 | quiescens | yeah |
04:51.37 | Lutin` | Well, I might not even use Pitbull |
04:51.41 | quiescens | it becomes a matter of what you get used to |
04:51.43 | quiescens | nono |
04:51.49 | Lutin` | I just like to have a certain degree of control |
04:52.07 | quiescens | it takes too much effort to try something different |
04:52.12 | Lutin` | Well |
04:52.24 | Lutin` | Not for me |
04:52.41 | Lutin` | Cause I haven't really used anything besides standard blizzard frames |
04:52.52 | Lutin` | And right now I'm just trying to find something different |
04:53.10 | quiescens | well I mean, once you pick one and use it for a while |
04:53.22 | quiescens | I would imagine most people tend to stick with whatever they pick after that |
04:53.29 | Lutin` | Well yeah |
04:53.31 | quiescens | and only change if it somehow breaks |
04:53.39 | Lutin` | Same reason I wish I hadn't gotten used to Carbonite |
04:53.50 | Lutin` | Cause now I can't use anything else due to the map Carbonite has |
04:54.01 | Lutin` | I keep trying to drag the blizzard map :P |
04:55.50 | Lutin` | Hrmm |
04:56.17 | Lutin` | Is the only control over color you have with text? |
04:56.17 | Lutin` | Or can I dynamically control bar color? |
04:58.06 | Torhal | Lutin`: Try Cartographer3. |
05:00.52 | Fisker | fuck you blizzard :( |
05:01.06 | Fisker | they put an emblem of triumph requirement on items now |
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05:01.55 | Fisker | nice they made ignores in the equipment manager |
05:02.34 | durcyn | that's been there since it was released, you stupid dane |
05:03.18 | Fisker | no fuck you |
05:03.37 | Megalon | oh Fisker, got owned again? :< |
05:05.09 | Fisker | i never get owned Megalon |
05:06.28 | Fisker | FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU durcyn |
05:06.54 | Megalon | there, again |
05:09.01 | durcyn | you |
05:09.02 | durcyn | just |
05:09.03 | durcyn | got |
05:09.03 | durcyn | owned |
05:13.02 | Lutin` | Torhal, it's still not a panable map |
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06:05.41 | NeoTron_ | yay. yogg+1 (10 man but still) |
06:05.46 | NeoTron_ | and we had like 5 minutes left |
06:12.34 | orionshock | wow... std new install wow settings in icecrown - 30fps and looking good :) |
06:15.55 | airtonix | where is info on the ignore feature of the equipment manager? |
06:16.05 | airtonix | http://www.wowwiki.com/Equipment_Manager shows nothing of it |
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06:20.15 | sb|work | morning |
06:20.42 | shadowfaux | morning |
06:20.52 | Megalon | airtonix: now here is even an "ignore slot" icon on the slide-outs |
06:21.13 | Megalon | on live, i think you have to alt-click (or ctrl?) the slot |
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06:31.38 | Xinhuan | is it me or does the PTR 3.2 patch take longer to patch than actually downloading it? |
06:36.17 | Fisker | not all that uncommon |
06:36.22 | Fisker | unless you have a shitty connection :D |
06:37.08 | shadowfaux | Anyone able to help me by pointing to somewhere i can get the info i need? |
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06:44.39 | theoddone33 | failed to 2 green dragons as an epic 80 paladin tank :( |
06:54.20 | orionshock | where is nev when u need to complain :| |
06:55.00 | Fisker | right in my pocket |
06:55.29 | Fisker | he says you touched him in places |
06:56.06 | Fisker | Megalon there never was a "slide-out" QQ |
06:58.26 | sb|work | i can't see your SC2 |
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06:59.21 | Megalon | Fisker: ever tried holding down alt while hovering the slots while the equipmanager is on? |
06:59.22 | Megalon | :p |
07:00.15 | Fisker | yes |
07:00.21 | Fisker | But that always had an ignore slot option |
07:00.30 | Fisker | But there's no "slideout" button like there is on the ptr |
07:01.13 | Megalon | hold alt, it slides out |
07:01.22 | Megalon | that's what you call "no slideout"? |
07:01.27 | Megalon | obvious troll again? :x |
07:01.41 | Fisker | "[08:21:15] <Megalon> on live, i think you have to alt-click (or ctrl?) the slot" |
07:01.52 | Megalon | yea, for the slideout then :P |
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07:07.43 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta7-8-g0c66148 GearGauge.lua: [+5 commits] (1 truncated) |
07:07.46 | Repo | 0c66148: Added search functionality to the panel - it is case-sensitive, and I don't plan on changing that for now. |
07:07.49 | Repo | 201ed3c: Removed the "hide", "list", and "panel" subcommands. |
07:07.52 | Repo | 3aa143d: Moved declarations for panel, list, and right_pane. |
07:07.55 | Repo | b31c3d7: Moved callback assignment and TipTac check outside of OpenListPanel, to the layout section. |
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07:12.57 | Shinja | hi |
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07:30.02 | orionshock | who made sexy map was it Antiarc ? |
07:30.15 | Torhal | orionshock: Yes. |
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07:30.29 | Torhal | I need to go to sleep before I answer any more questions. Damn people. |
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07:30.31 | Torhal | :D |
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07:30.36 | orionshock | ok, well libDBIcon and sexymap don't play togeather correctly |
07:31.04 | Adirelle|work | Torhal: but whyyy ? |
07:31.07 | Torhal | File a ticket? |
07:31.22 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: So I can get up roughly sometime after my son. |
07:31.29 | Torhal | Not way after. |
07:31.31 | Torhal | Heh |
07:31.33 | Adirelle|work | ^^ |
07:31.43 | orionshock | Torhal: it's a special problem so i don't think either care; then again both are awesome authors |
07:31.59 | Torhal | orionshock: I'd say the fault was with SexyMap |
07:32.05 | Torhal | Simply because of how it handles icons |
07:32.19 | orionshock | it's a technicality on both accounts and a limitation |
07:32.26 | Torhal | Hrm. |
07:32.26 | Adirelle|work | i'd say we need to kick antiarc to have him maintain his addons |
07:32.45 | Adirelle|work | ~slap antiarc |
07:32.45 | purl | ACTION slaps antiarc, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
07:32.45 | orionshock | so Antiarc turned into ckknight ? make great mods but never update ? :) |
07:32.58 | Adirelle|work | that how this feels to me |
07:33.06 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: I thought he was taking the ckknight approach. Make something that gets popular enough that other people band-aid it |
07:33.08 | Torhal | orionshock: Haha |
07:33.10 | Torhal | Same thought |
07:33.35 | Antiarc | *chuckle* I do tend to not be too aggressive about maintaining my hobby work, heh |
07:33.36 | Torhal | Anywho - sleepages. |
07:33.37 | Adirelle|work | Torhal: actually I was hesitating to ask him to add me as a maintainer |
07:33.40 | Antiarc | It's an admitted fault :P |
07:33.52 | Antiarc | Life is keepin' me busy. |
07:34.03 | Stanzilla | now you woke him up :( |
07:34.09 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: Haha, ask him now :) |
07:34.09 | Antiarc | *rawr* |
07:34.15 | Torhal | You have been patching it up. |
07:34.21 | Adirelle|work | woot, HE IS ALIVE ! |
07:34.29 | Antiarc | Hehe |
07:34.34 | Antiarc | Up late workin' :) |
07:34.53 | Adirelle|work | torhal: that was small fixes, and I could not tag them |
07:34.56 | orionshock | Antiarc: Sexymap and LibDBIcon act funny togeather. LibDBIcon tells the frame to hide when hidden but it's hidden because the mouse isn't over the minimap; so LibDBIcon think's it's already hidden; but SexyMap shows it regardless when u mouse back over it |
07:35.06 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: I've been lazy, BTW: I keep meaning to fix LibQTip's appearance inheritance but never get to it. |
07:35.10 | Antiarc | Ah, hm |
07:35.19 | Antiarc | I've seen that happen before. Hrm. |
07:35.23 | orionshock | realisitcally it's a libdbicon problem; it could check if the frames parent is hidden and adjust accordingly |
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07:35.33 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: If the tooltip is acquired while GameTooltip is fading, its alpha is set to semi-transparent. |
07:35.42 | Adirelle|work | interesting ^^ |
07:35.43 | orionshock | set the frame OnShow() handler to update properly from there. |
07:35.44 | Torhal | So if you feel like fixing it.... |
07:35.44 | Antiarc | SexyMap is very...violent in how it treats icons :P |
07:35.48 | Torhal | Otherwise, I'll get to it later |
07:36.03 | Antiarc | By necessity, though, since there's not really any standard for icon behavior, heh |
07:36.04 | Torhal | I keep forgetting :) |
07:36.04 | Adirelle|work | actually I don't know how to "fix" it |
07:36.27 | Torhal | I have thoughts. No solid plan. |
07:36.31 | Adirelle|work | i'd say the solution would be to allow tip mod to have a way skin qtips |
07:36.37 | orionshock | Antiarc: in this community and world; make one and then distribute it to the major players and screw the rest :) |
07:36.52 | Antiarc | Heh. |
07:36.54 | Adirelle|work | hrm... "would be to allow tip addons to skin qtips" have more sense |
07:37.18 | Torhal | Something to think about. I really must sleep, though. |
07:37.24 | Adirelle|work | ok |
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07:40.22 | Adirelle|work | about that issue, shouldn't sexymap identifies libdbicon icons ? |
07:40.37 | Adirelle|work | they are all named LibDBIcon10_something |
07:40.39 | Antiarc | Is there a consistent way to do so? |
07:40.44 | Antiarc | Oh, that's nice. |
07:41.12 | Adirelle|work | well, that's a bit hackish because this is no "public" |
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07:42.34 | Torhal | Hacks only matter when there's a better way of doing something. |
07:42.34 | Torhal | If there isn't, the hack is the appropriate way. |
07:42.34 | Torhal | cackles. |
07:42.34 | Antiarc | Meh. Sexymap's button handling is a giant collection of hacks already. What's one more? :P |
07:42.34 | Adirelle|work | ^^ |
07:42.35 | Adirelle|work | moreover, given "icon" is your icon frame, you can check for "icon.db.hide" |
07:43.25 | Xinhuan | librock is broken on ptr ;p |
07:44.36 | Adirelle|work | which addon is still using librock ? |
07:45.26 | Xinhuan | fubar |
07:45.31 | Adirelle|work | oh |
07:45.38 | Adirelle|work | R.I.P. |
07:45.49 | Xinhuan | lol |
07:45.59 | mitch0 | it is safe to RegisterEvent() multiple time, right? |
07:46.10 | Xinhuan | its broken only because some globals are changed with regards to bug catching |
07:46.58 | mitch0 | also, what's the safest way of attaching user data to frames? just use some magic prefix for variables? |
07:47.12 | Elkano | Antiarc, and SexyMap still messes with the buttons even if that part is disabled in the config :/ |
07:47.14 | Xinhuan | myframe.mydata = 1 |
07:47.38 | Antiarc | It's rather indiscriminate about small frames attached to the minimap. Heh. |
07:48.18 | mitch0 | xin: so I should just look out for name-clashes with the default blizz stuff? |
07:48.40 | Xinhuan | if your addon is called DoThisShit |
07:48.53 | Xinhuan | i don't see how any other addon would set myframe.DoThisShitData |
07:49.19 | Adirelle|work | there are more chance of a clash with other addon data than with blizz ones |
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07:51.05 | mitch0 | xinhuan: I was thinking about "frame.ud = ... " :) |
07:53.28 | Adirelle|work | Antiarc: I'm looking at SexyMap's Buttons.lua |
07:54.10 | mitch0 | Buttocks.lua |
07:54.10 | Repo | 10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 8657585 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
07:54.11 | Adirelle|work | I was wondering if detecting libdbicon icons in captureNewChildren to use a special .show would be sufficent |
07:54.11 | Antiarc | ---^ |
07:54.13 | Repo | 8657585: Fix LDBIcon clashes by not messing with visibility; only mess with alpha for hover-registered buttons |
07:54.16 | Repo | c6cd033: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/sexymap/mainline |
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07:54.21 | Repo | 198df35: Fix (kinda) for movers + quest tracking |
07:54.24 | Repo | f98fb0b: Merge enabled fix |
07:54.30 | Antiarc | No need, really. Just let addons manage :Show and :Hide. SexyMap will just manage alpha. |
07:54.50 | Adirelle|work | hrm icons will still be clickable though |
07:55.02 | Antiarc | If your mouse moves over the map they'll show anyhow |
07:55.04 | Antiarc | So you want them clickable |
07:55.34 | Antiarc | In practice it doesn't really change the behavior at all, just plays a little nicer with other mods. |
07:55.40 | Antiarc | From quick tests with the Skada button, it seems to work just fine |
07:56.08 | Adirelle|work | what happen when you select "never display" ? |
07:56.18 | Antiarc | It just hides it, doesn't register it for hover. |
07:56.41 | Adirelle|work | ok |
07:59.00 | shadowfaux | anyone know how to stop getting a wall of text from my addon? if i add something to my array it gives me a response for each chat event i have registered:$ any help please? |
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08:00.37 | orionshock | Torhal|Sleep: when u wake up; seriously man crossover games; i'm rather impressed ~30fps in dalaran with quite a few things tuned up :) |
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08:19.05 | Adirelle|work | Antiarc: do you mind if I try to commit some patches for sexymap offichal thread ? |
08:19.07 | mitch0 | ok, how ugly is it to require a /reload after ui scale change? |
08:19.21 | Antiarc | Adirelle|work: What sort of stuff? |
08:19.58 | Adirelle|work | 1) vehicule seat mover |
08:20.12 | Adirelle|work | 2) some issue with the coordinate frame |
08:20.26 | Adirelle|work | (related to anchoring if I understood correctly) |
08:20.28 | Antiarc | What's the coord frame issue? I haven't had issues with it...I think? |
08:20.35 | Mikk | mitch0: very. don't. |
08:20.55 | Antiarc | Those should be fine though, go ahead |
08:21.36 | mitch0 | mikk: ok, then tell me how to get notified of the event ;) |
08:21.54 | mitch0 | hooking UIParent:SetScale doesn't work |
08:21.58 | Mikk | OnUpdate and poll scale of UIParent :< |
08:22.07 | Adirelle|work | Antiarc: dunno about the coord issue, from the patch I guess the lock settings wasn't honored |
08:22.20 | Antiarc | Can't be that complex a fix then, heh |
08:22.28 | Adirelle|work | not really ^^ |
08:22.32 | mitch0 | mikk: heh, that's much nicer indeed :) |
08:22.47 | Mikk | mitch0: question is ... why do you need it? can it be fixed by just buildling your windows another way? |
08:22.49 | Adirelle|work | but for another reason the guy changed anchoring to use UIParent instead of "Minimap" |
08:23.02 | mitch0 | mikk: anchoring to mouse |
08:23.02 | Antiarc | Hrm. Not sure I like that idea. |
08:23.10 | Adirelle|work | I'm not sure why he did that actually. |
08:23.16 | Antiarc | It's not a standalone coordinate frame mod, heh |
08:23.19 | Adirelle|work | so I have to test it |
08:23.36 | Mikk | mitch0: Umm but then you've got something running every OnUpdate already do you not? |
08:23.48 | Mikk | Just re-poll the scale every time |
08:23.49 | mitch0 | yes |
08:24.26 | mitch0 | but yesterday j*whiteh (clad? that's simpler if that's him really) bashed me for doing that ;) |
08:24.39 | jnwhiteh | I didn't bash you |
08:24.48 | jnwhiteh | I said polling for something that doesn't change without user interaction isn't good design |
08:24.57 | Gnarfoz | whee |
08:24.59 | jnwhiteh | and its not, it may work.. but it's not how it "should" be done |
08:25.12 | Gnarfoz | reading 91 pages on ensidia.com, filled to 91% with utter bullshit |
08:25.22 | Gnarfoz | class A entertainment |
08:25.30 | Stanzilla | the yogg exploit stuff? |
08:25.49 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: I understand all that, I do keep most of my stuff that way and keep performance in mind, but I don't see a way out of this... |
08:26.32 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: yeah |
08:26.36 | jnwhiteh | i'm sure there is.. but I can't offer to look into it right now |
08:26.38 | jnwhiteh | so do whats easiest |
08:26.38 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: my best compromise is to poll it only every time I :Show() the "tooltip" (basically, every time you mouse-over a "valid" unit) |
08:26.47 | jnwhiteh | you were the one who was concerend about performance =) |
08:26.48 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: note my post on page 1 of MMO-C's "exo banned" thread |
08:26.49 | Mikk | that sounds like a kickass idea to me |
08:27.14 | jnwhiteh | http://apidiff.pastey.net/116895 |
08:27.14 | mitch0 | mikk: ^^ aimed at me? |
08:27.18 | Mikk | mitch0: yupyup |
08:27.34 | jnwhiteh | ooh |
08:27.38 | jnwhiteh | OnDisable and OnEnable |
08:27.43 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: also awesome, the description of how they had to manually reset Algalon25 before it was fixed (never read the actual post because Calebv talked about it in here): http://www.ensidia.com/community/blogs/road-algalon.html |
08:27.48 | jnwhiteh | :GetAllowMouseover/:SetAllowMouseover |
08:27.50 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yeah, funniest thing was when the exo member brought up all the old nihilum exploits |
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08:28.28 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: OnEnable is only called once (on startup) if we're talking about the same thing |
08:28.35 | jnwhiteh | .... |
08:28.36 | jnwhiteh | we're not. |
08:28.40 | jnwhiteh | OnEnable doesn't exist currently |
08:28.47 | jnwhiteh | and its been added to the latest PTR build. |
08:28.50 | jnwhiteh | new frame scripts. |
08:29.00 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: buzzkill (I think) put it right: when you're on the bleeding edge, what more than a glorified playtesting team are you, and why do you expect everything to be bug-free? (mostly about BC and vanilla stuff) |
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08:29.07 | mitch0 | ah. what's it do? |
08:29.21 | jnwhiteh | .. fires |
08:29.26 | jnwhiteh | when the button is enabled, or disabled. |
08:29.32 | mitch0 | it's not a button |
08:29.37 | jnwhiteh | .. what areyou talking about |
08:29.37 | mitch0 | it's a simple text frame |
08:29.39 | jnwhiteh | I am talking about teh PTR |
08:29.43 | jnwhiteh | I'm talking about frame mehtods and handler |
08:29.46 | jnwhiteh | it has nothign to do with you |
08:29.46 | jnwhiteh | =) |
08:29.47 | mitch0 | I'm talking about my uiScale issue :) |
08:29.50 | Mikk | upgrades his IRC client |
08:29.51 | jnwhiteh | I'm not |
08:29.57 | mitch0 | gah, get off my lawn then :) |
08:31.45 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yeah, true |
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08:32.08 | mitch0 | also, I don't know if it's just agUF doing something special, but UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT is fired when you mouse over a unitframe if the unit is "near" |
08:32.22 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: oh and best of all: the synchronized double JoL accusation, lol |
08:32.28 | mitch0 | (and mouseover unit is set correctly in that case) |
08:32.37 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: that's every single SAB |
08:32.43 | jnwhiteh | that has a unit attribute set |
08:32.47 | jnwhiteh | i asked for it almost a year ago |
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08:33.03 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: the screenshot of the premonition(?) video is nice. they had bigwigs timers for judgements to exploit it :D |
08:33.09 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: ah, then the wowwiki needs some updates |
08:33.13 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: and to top even that, the screenshot from exodus's firefighter kill video showing THEM to do what they accused the others of doing, guess it doesn't take much creativity when you were actually doing it yourself |
08:33.14 | jnwhiteh | don't use wowwiki |
08:33.15 | jnwhiteh | =) |
08:33.26 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: yeah, that's Exo's vid, making it all the more ironic |
08:33.38 | Mikk | or update wowwiki :o) |
08:33.45 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: well, wowprogramming needs even more updates :) |
08:33.50 | Gnarfoz | anyway, "the war is over" so to speak, lol |
08:33.57 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: >< |
08:33.58 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: oh lol |
08:33.59 | jnwhiteh | why? |
08:34.00 | Adirelle|work | Antiarc: still don't catch why he reanchored the coordiante frame to UIParent, it just seems to be ok with the Minimap |
08:34.15 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: I thought it was a different one because it had "premo" in the title, just ready the rest of the filename^^ |
08:34.18 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: how so? |
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08:34.29 | Stanzilla | http://i43.tinypic.com/256qq1s.jpg :) |
08:34.34 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: just "prem", short for "premium" on warcraftmovies, I take it |
08:34.38 | Stanzilla | yeah |
08:34.48 | orionshock | whats the command to restart the graphic engine in wow? |
08:34.56 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
08:34.58 | Gnarfoz | orionshock: /console gxrestart |
08:35.03 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: the info on UPDATE_MOUSEOVER is too terse there |
08:35.11 | jnwhiteh | I've just updated it |
08:35.13 | Mikk | jnwhiteh: good question! you tell me why not? =) |
08:35.17 | jnwhiteh | but you already know why |
08:35.24 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: Because our system is superior |
08:35.34 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: thanks ;) |
08:35.38 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: anyway, nice entertainment that got me through a boring (too fucking hot) night ;D |
08:35.40 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: it always shows the most accurate listing of events, API, CVars, etc. |
08:35.48 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: it's cold here :O |
08:35.52 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: further, we can do more with our data.. because its in a consumable format which allows us to provide more to the community. |
08:35.56 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: srsly? ;O |
08:35.56 | Stanzilla | how can I enable colored chat names on the ptr btw? |
08:35.59 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yesh :/ |
08:36.17 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: cvar, I think? I'll check the diff |
08:36.38 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: you might add that it doesn't fire when the mouseover unit becomes invalid (when you un-mouseover :) |
08:36.42 | EthanCentaurai | Interface -> Development iirc |
08:36.48 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: colorChatNamesByClass |
08:36.56 | Stanzilla | tried that |
08:36.58 | Stanzilla | doesnt work |
08:36.58 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: you could, but I will |
08:37.02 | Stanzilla | but ok I only tried /s |
08:37.04 | Gnarfoz | then it's "NYI" probably |
08:37.10 | Gnarfoz | oh wait |
08:37.19 | Gnarfoz | that's from the "removed" line of the diff, silly me |
08:37.28 | Stanzilla | ohnoes |
08:37.31 | mitch0 | although strictly speaking it already says that, but it's clearer to be a bit more explicit |
08:38.20 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: seems they toggle that by chat type now? |
08:38.45 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: so probably in chat options where you set chat type colors? just guessing from the code, here ;D |
08:38.55 | Stanzilla | lemme login |
08:39.50 | Gnarfoz | doing the same already |
08:39.51 | Gnarfoz | :D |
08:39.51 | Stanzilla | oh wtf |
08:40.00 | Stanzilla | the options look weird now^^ |
08:40.37 | Gnarfoz | also, gotta fax away my cancellation of my root server ;o |
08:40.45 | Stanzilla | ok it works |
08:41.03 | Gnarfoz | good to know, what doesn't seem to work is dalaran |
08:41.03 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
08:41.28 | Stanzilla | who needs dalaran |
08:41.43 | Gnarfoz | apparently I do, since my transferred char ended up there |
08:41.49 | Stanzilla | :D |
08:41.50 | Gnarfoz | probably same position as I logged out at? |
08:41.59 | Stanzilla | yeah |
08:42.51 | Stanzilla | hm you can really fly in dalaran now |
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08:44.18 | Gnarfoz | what? |
08:44.30 | Gnarfoz | also, said Caleb| has arrived, \o/ |
08:44.45 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: you can't use that here |
08:45.06 | Stanzilla | mount outside |
08:45.08 | Stanzilla | fly in |
08:45.24 | Gnarfoz | without taking "precautions" (*cough*)? |
08:45.29 | Stanzilla | yeah |
08:45.35 | Stanzilla | on which ptr are you btw? |
08:45.43 | Gnarfoz | was gonna ask the same right now |
08:45.52 | Stanzilla | Fordring :D |
08:45.56 | Gnarfoz | shouldb e Fordring, ("german") |
08:46.00 | Repo | 10sexymap: 03Adirelle 07master * acbc2ac / (4 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
08:46.03 | Repo | acbc2ac: Added vehicule seat mover. |
08:46.06 | Repo | 58a0e9c: Coordinates: honor the "lock" setting and added a button to "reset position". |
08:46.08 | Gnarfoz | +remulos, for less lag (HAHAHAHA you wish) |
08:46.09 | Repo | b073667: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/sexymap/mainline |
08:46.11 | Repo | f5b983f: If Capping is loaded, do not try to move PvP capture bars. |
08:46.28 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I'm at Krasus' Landing |
08:46.31 | Stanzilla | go tradechat spam :D |
08:56.41 | Gnarfoz | idd |
08:57.03 | Gnarfoz | oh heh |
08:57.12 | Gnarfoz | the mmo-c thread shrunk down to 23 pages |
08:57.32 | Gnarfoz | I tried to open page 29 from a tab I had open for some hours previously |
08:57.56 | Stanzilla | http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=791104 |
08:58.01 | Stanzilla | what what WHAT? |
08:59.23 | Gnarfoz | wut |
09:00.17 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: the pdf link is 404? |
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09:00.35 | Gnarfoz | nah only in the neowin post, nevermind |
09:01.00 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: http://thepiratebay.org/blog/164 |
09:01.57 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: is there a search function on wowprogramming? I can't seem to be able to find it... |
09:02.09 | jnwhiteh | google site:wowprogramming.com <search terms> |
09:02.15 | jnwhiteh | i could add a search box at some point |
09:02.20 | mitch0 | would be nice |
09:02.26 | jnwhiteh | but it would just do that =) |
09:02.34 | mitch0 | still ; |
09:02.36 | mitch0 | :) |
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09:09.44 | mitch0 | will OnShow() be called before the first OnUpdate() ? |
09:09.48 | Repo | 10configmodedemos: 03Adirelle 04v1.0-beta-1 * 717d197 /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tagging as v1.0-beta-1. |
09:11.06 | Caleb| | AMERICA FUCK YEAH! |
09:11.06 | Caleb| | haha |
09:11.08 | Repo | 10configmodeblizzard: 03Adirelle 04v1.0-beta-2 * d6921c8 /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tagging as v1.0-beta-2. |
09:11.26 | Caleb| | you have to admit Gnarfoz this is some funny shit |
09:11.40 | Gnarfoz | Caleb|: oh yes, of course :) |
09:11.53 | Gnarfoz | Caleb|: we were talking about it a little while before you joined |
09:12.02 | Gnarfoz | it was good entertainment that got me through the night, lol |
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09:14.04 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
09:14.05 | Fisker | i hate you |
09:18.09 | Gnarfoz | no, I you, because I can't moderate |
09:18.20 | Gnarfoz | you however, had some fun posting red text :( |
09:18.53 | Repo | 10range-display: 03mitch0 * r233 RangeDisplay.lua: |
09:18.56 | Repo | unthrottled update for anchor-to-mouse positioning, better workaround for uiScale update. drycode |
09:24.47 | Repo | 10range-display: 03mitch0 * r234 RangeDisplay.lua: fix event registration when enabling/disabling units |
09:29.50 | Repo | 10range-display: 03mitch0 * r235 RangeDisplay.lua: set bgAutoHide in defaults for mouseover unit |
09:30.34 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
09:30.43 | Fisker | i had like 10000000000 mails in my inbox |
09:30.48 | Gnarfoz | no shit |
09:30.51 | Gnarfoz | see my post on page 1 |
09:32.19 | Fisker | links or gtfo |
09:33.18 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't have trouble finding page 1 of the thread that now consists of 50% red text |
09:33.24 | Gnarfoz | :p |
09:33.42 | Fisker | no |
09:33.57 | Fisker | but i should have trouble wanting to use 30 seconds finding the thread when i can use 2 seconds clicking a link |
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09:37.21 | mitch0 | is this old? http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/30/0629254 |
09:37.58 | Gnarfoz | if you read it before? no. to many of us? yes. |
09:38.19 | mitch0 | just stumbled upon it, but I guessed /. might not be the fastest new about WoW |
09:39.17 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
09:42.27 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: oh also http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=69556.msg1085297#msg1085297 |
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09:46.38 | Fisker | takes a piss |
09:51.17 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
09:51.24 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: no u |
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09:51.41 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
09:53.33 | Gnarfoz | not creative today? still exhausted from doing my mom all night? |
09:53.33 | Stanzilla | what was that vasjh respawn exploit those idiots are talking about? |
09:53.33 | Fisker | yeah :( |
09:53.33 | Gnarfoz | or just in a repetitive mood |
09:53.33 | Fisker | Stanzilla something about she respawned at 1% or something |
09:53.33 | Fisker | idk |
09:53.33 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: don't remember? on the first kill, she respawned instantly |
09:53.34 | Fisker | was a one-time glitch |
09:53.37 | Gnarfoz | after the kill itself was a random bug, too |
09:53.47 | orionshock | boo server down |
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09:54.06 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: ok she respawned but how is that relevant for the first kill? |
09:54.10 | Gnarfoz | dropped health from 10% to 1hp or so, SS'd priest SW:D'd her, after which a new one spawned |
09:54.15 | Gnarfoz | it isn't |
09:54.28 | Gnarfoz | since you gain nothing from having to offtank a new vashj just to get your loot |
09:54.48 | Stanzilla | stupid exodus people |
09:54.52 | Gnarfoz | stupid internet people |
09:55.02 | Gnarfoz | wait |
09:55.07 | Gnarfoz | stupid people. |
09:55.08 | Gnarfoz | :D |
09:55.08 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
09:55.52 | Stanzilla | The bug was when she gets to 20% you wipe and have a paladin DS. Then she will go back into phase 2 when the encounter is resetting it knocks off her hp per pylon then she will be left on 1hp(5% per pylon) Then a priest will ss and sw:d her. |
09:56.04 | Stanzilla | mkay |
09:56.34 | Grum | how was cthun exploited though? :D |
09:56.40 | Grum | can't find any information on that |
09:56.42 | Stanzilla | with the oozling |
09:56.46 | Stanzilla | filling up debuff slots |
09:56.55 | Grum | euh? :D |
09:56.58 | Stanzilla | and not getting the one in his tentacle room thiny |
09:57.09 | Grum | really? o.o |
09:57.13 | Stanzilla | yeah |
09:57.24 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: totally made up random shit |
09:57.44 | Stanzilla | what? no :P |
09:58.12 | Grum | gimmeh a page with information on how that worked o.O |
09:58.16 | Gnarfoz | check their screenshots, they were as surprised that they killed her as anyone else |
09:58.33 | Gnarfoz | also, the paladin alive in their screenshots is out of range + alive + 40~ ish hp |
09:58.48 | Gnarfoz | -> released + outside/at the entrance |
09:58.51 | Gnarfoz | rather than DI'd |
09:58.59 | Gnarfoz | which would show on the raid frames, hopefully. ^^ |
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09:59.30 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
09:59.35 | Gnarfoz | it's easy to figure out how someone could have looked at their screenshots and made up a story that half fit what he saw |
09:59.42 | Stanzilla | Grum: you get the debuff when the pet spawns |
09:59.50 | Stanzilla | make a macro to dismiss/spawn it |
09:59.58 | Stanzilla | spam your debuff slots, done |
10:00.05 | Gnarfoz | back then debuff slots were limited to... 8? 16? |
10:00.16 | Gnarfoz | anyway, limited like hell |
10:00.18 | Grum | yes you do but in order to override a buff in the debuffslots you needed to have at least 8 ? |
10:00.25 | Gnarfoz | yes, no problem |
10:00.28 | Grum | how? |
10:00.32 | Gnarfoz | the debuff has a duration |
10:00.42 | Grum | oozling one? |
10:00.45 | Gnarfoz | and is cast on summon |
10:00.55 | Gnarfoz | so summon/unsummon spam = debuffs |
10:01.19 | Gnarfoz | however, having a macro with that icon on your action bar doesn't say *anything* |
10:02.21 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: oh and re-reading what I wrote up there, timing-wise: I was referring to the vashj thingy, not c'thun |
10:02.32 | Stanzilla | i know |
10:02.40 | Gnarfoz | k, just clarifying |
10:02.44 | Grum | ah |
10:02.52 | Stanzilla | I'm so tired it's not funny |
10:02.54 | Grum | that was when you had the buff where you could spawn ~20 pets |
10:02.59 | Grum | i used to do that :D |
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10:03.09 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: from what? |
10:03.12 | Grum | they then put a cooldown on the petsummon |
10:03.14 | Gnarfoz | god, I should turn off auto-subscribe on mmo-c |
10:03.16 | Stanzilla | waking up at 3am |
10:03.19 | Gnarfoz | why? |
10:03.23 | Stanzilla | good question |
10:03.34 | Gnarfoz | (I got up yesterday at ~19:30, so I'm kind of fucked up right now, too :P) |
10:03.48 | Stanzilla | lol :D |
10:03.55 | Stanzilla | I went to bed at 0 |
10:03.59 | Stanzilla | woke up at 3 |
10:04.02 | Stanzilla | makes no sense :( |
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10:04.06 | Gnarfoz | indeed not |
10:04.06 | Grum | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=20769#comments:id=365826 |
10:05.20 | Gnarfoz | Grum: he's wise enough not to say "world first kill was an exploit", but rather "This exploit has been known and around for a long time. In fact, the first world C'Thun kill shot has an oozling macro on the guy's hotbar." |
10:05.24 | Gnarfoz | :D |
10:05.50 | Gnarfoz | but since multiple guilds killed him right after the nerf, I doubt that would have been necessary |
10:07.10 | Adirelle|work | ~seen phanx |
10:07.12 | purl | phanx <n=phanx133@adsl-69-228-222-93.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 279d 9h 23m 40s ago, saying: 'Gnarfoz: thanks for committing that, btw'. |
10:07.21 | Adirelle|work | erm |
10:07.37 | Gnarfoz | ninja hl! |
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10:22.41 | airtonix | i'm having some problems loading and using ace3ConfigDialog library in my project |
10:22.42 | airtonix | http://pastebin.com/m63e8b149 |
10:24.01 | airtonix | up until now i didnt realise that some other addon was filling in the shortcomings of how i was loading it up, but now that i've tested it out soley on its own with out other addons, i get a error telling me that it can't find an instance of ace3configdialog |
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10:24.58 | airtonix | from the that pastey, you can see i actually do have ace3configdialog referenced in the toc file and it does exist withing the folder tree of my project |
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10:25.45 | airtonix | embeds.xml : http://pastebin.com/m87981e3 |
10:26.55 | Arrowmaster | you need AceGUI-3.0 |
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10:29.45 | orionshock | anyone know a good frunt end to mencoder ? |
10:30.56 | Arrowmaster | megui? |
10:32.42 | airtonix | cheers arrow, i was hoping to keep everything related to the configui seperate in a loadondemand addon |
10:32.54 | airtonix | seems i can;t for now till i work out how to properly seperate them |
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10:33.12 | Arrowmaster | well you cant load aceconfig without acegui |
10:33.43 | Repo | 10broker_altguild: 03yess * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): initial commit |
10:33.58 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, i had two addons, the main and the main_config, main config contained the ace3gui and the ace3dialog |
10:35.59 | Fisker | oh that was a bad move Gnarfoz |
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10:36.38 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, do i need AceEvent-3.0 at all ? |
10:36.42 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: me scratching my butt? I'm sorry ;3 |
10:36.48 | Fisker | naw |
10:36.54 | Fisker | My internet connection have been shit lately |
10:37.04 | nevcairiel | hey they removed the need for Babble-Class .. finally :) |
10:37.06 | Fisker | So they said a technician would take a look at it today |
10:37.21 | Fisker | So i've been home and their deadline is now past 40 minutes |
10:37.41 | EthanCentaurai | hows that nev? |
10:37.44 | Fisker | So i'll give them a call here later to tell them i'll be cancelling my subscription :3 |
10:37.51 | nevcairiel | +FillLocalizedClassList(LOCALIZED_CLASS_NAMES_MALE, false); |
10:37.51 | nevcairiel | +FillLocalizedClassList(LOCALIZED_CLASS_NAMES_FEMALE, true); |
10:38.38 | EthanCentaurai | hasn't looked at the 10046 diff yet |
10:38.40 | nevcairiel | I suspect its a Token -> Localized pair |
10:38.44 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: you swedes and your 35⬠100mbit connections!!11 pfft |
10:38.46 | nevcairiel | patches to se |
10:38.53 | Gnarfoz | (cough) |
10:38.55 | thul | I got a free 15mbit connection :/ |
10:38.58 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: he is a dane |
10:39.01 | thul | rapes Fisker |
10:39.03 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: no shit |
10:39.04 | EthanCentaurai | still can't log into the PTR... D: |
10:39.22 | Gnarfoz | :D |
10:39.36 | Fisker | fuck you Gnarfoz |
10:39.39 | Fisker | not swedish |
10:39.41 | nevcairiel | Did i hear right that Firefox 3.5 is supposed to be released today? |
10:39.52 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: haste said you were |
10:39.58 | Fisker | i'm danish |
10:40.05 | Gnarfoz | no, haste is always right |
10:40.05 | Fisker | and a 20Mbit connection is â¬40 |
10:40.16 | Fisker | unless you live in copenhagen or something |
10:40.58 | Gnarfoz | ha, Copenhagen, who are you kidding, you swede :o |
10:41.03 | nevcairiel | wtf, SC2 without a LAN mode |
10:41.05 | Gnarfoz | (man these get old quick) |
10:41.10 | nevcairiel | i liked blizzard before .. :P |
10:41.25 | Stanzilla | yes nevcairiel |
10:41.36 | Stanzilla | it's already on the ftp afaik |
10:41.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: d3, too, they announced that long ago - wasn't unreasonable to expect the same for sc2 |
10:42.19 | nevcairiel | Diablo is not a typical "competition" game |
10:42.34 | nevcairiel | SC:BW was great on competitive play on LANs |
10:42.38 | Fisker | D3 is pretty nice as well for lans |
10:42.41 | Gnarfoz | what :< baal runs are not competitive? |
10:42.59 | Gnarfoz | (I agree though, both would benefit from LAN modes, SC2 even more than D3) |
10:43.20 | nevcairiel | Of course we've played long games of D2 on LAN |
10:43.26 | nevcairiel | but we could as well do that through battle.net |
10:43.31 | Elkano | it's most likely ment as a counter for piracy, forcing people on LANs to use battle.net |
10:43.46 | Gnarfoz | indeed, that's why I'm saying SC2 more so than D3 |
10:43.56 | Gnarfoz | Elkano: not piracy probably, cheating rather |
10:44.23 | nevcairiel | Well i'm organizing big lan partys, and we don't always have enough free internet bandwidth to offer lag-free playing through battle.net .. so no tournaments of SC2 for us. |
10:44.39 | Elkano | well, I don't mean full-scale LANs with tournaments and such but rather the small friends&family version |
10:44.40 | Gnarfoz | yup, that's the problem :\ |
10:44.57 | nevcairiel | friends&family can as well play throug battle.net |
10:45.04 | nevcairiel | thats where we played d2 |
10:45.06 | nevcairiel | never on big lans |
10:45.06 | Gnarfoz | Elkano: well f&f don't have the internet problem |
10:45.18 | Gnarfoz | but they also don't make up much of the piracy problem I'd guess |
10:45.22 | nevcairiel | But i liked watching WC3 tournaments |
10:45.26 | nevcairiel | wouldve loved SC2 |
10:45.30 | Gnarfoz | (having no numbers about any of this is kind of meh) |
10:45.44 | nevcairiel | If you must, authenticate on the web, play on LAN |
10:45.57 | nevcairiel | but don't foce the game through the web :/ |
10:46.11 | nevcairiel | oh well, bnetd here you go! |
10:46.26 | Gnarfoz | haha bnetd :D |
10:47.32 | Elkano | Gnarfoz, wouldn't say that... friends could be inet pals, too... playing via Hamachi and such |
10:48.15 | Gnarfoz | ugh |
10:49.17 | nevcairiel | they should just buy the game then |
10:49.29 | nevcairiel | and play on battle.net .. if they play over internet already =P |
10:49.43 | nevcairiel | I just hate the forced use of Internet for competetive playing on LANs |
10:51.29 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/25c7ec32a9052140d0fd0af852742752.png |
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10:51.33 | nevcairiel | there goes babble-class ^ |
10:54.12 | Elkano | though we still need to create the inverse by hand, don't we? |
10:54.47 | Repo | 10broker_altguild: 03yess * r3 .pkgmeta: fix .pkgmeta |
10:55.05 | sb|work | Gnarfoz: 100mbit (+telephone) coming to me soon, for 50 eur :p |
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10:55.32 | Gnarfoz | sb|work: KD pilot area? |
10:55.37 | Gnarfoz | (docsis 3.0 shizz, 100/2.5?) |
10:55.37 | sb|work | KBW |
10:55.49 | sb|work | and yes, 100/2.5 i think :/ |
10:55.52 | Gnarfoz | they're doing that too? nice |
10:56.07 | Gnarfoz | oh |
10:56.10 | Gnarfoz | I misread heise, it's just KBW |
10:56.17 | Gnarfoz | 100/2.5 is still better than my 3/0.192 ;D |
10:56.29 | Megalon | :O |
10:56.30 | sb|work | yup :p |
10:56.53 | Elkano | not that anyone really needs that much bandwidth ^^ |
10:56.57 | sb|work | the sad part is, i'm not in the first 3 "testing areas" :p so it will take some time :/ |
10:56.58 | nevcairiel | Why do the silly people in the south get the good stuff? |
10:57.26 | Megalon | whatsup with the italians? |
10:57.34 | Fisker | duh nevcairiel |
10:57.38 | Fisker | the game will still be P2P |
10:57.56 | Gnarfoz | Elkano: 3/.192 for the price of 6/something also sucks ass. |
10:58.01 | Megalon | your mom is p2p Fisker |
10:58.04 | Fisker | yes |
10:58.07 | nevcairiel | Those games have issues figuring out that its on the same LAN and will still send over the internet interface |
10:58.08 | Gnarfoz | also, it's all about upstream bw |
10:58.16 | Fisker | naw nevcairiel |
10:58.52 | sb|work | nevcairiel: because! :p (and don't call us silly! :p) |
10:59.01 | Gnarfoz | I'd happily give up 80 of those 100M (or 40 of the 50M VDSL offers) to increase the upstream bw ;o |
10:59.05 | nevcairiel | silly! |
10:59.15 | sb|work | just move south ;) |
10:59.28 | Gnarfoz | actually, for 50/10 VDSL that wouldn't make sense, heh, giving up 30 of those to get 20/20 would rock |
10:59.28 | nevcairiel | i'm not moving anywhere near those silly people |
10:59.32 | nevcairiel | i like the north |
10:59.45 | Gnarfoz | if I move south, I won't be able to understand people anymore |
10:59.51 | nevcairiel | truth |
10:59.55 | Gnarfoz | they're going to be like all gibberish and stuff :P |
10:59.59 | Elkano | well, I'm getting 400 for the price of 1k :/ |
11:00.01 | sb|work | pffffff |
11:00.37 | Gnarfoz | srsly, when you're from where there's basically no dialect, it's just that much more annoying :D |
11:00.53 | Gnarfoz | also: giev work in the south -> moving |
11:01.15 | nevcairiel | well yeah, good work would motivate =p |
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11:02.09 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: -good |
11:02.20 | Gnarfoz | actually, good work would be preferable, but hey |
11:02.29 | nevcairiel | meh i can get bad work nearly anywhere |
11:02.33 | sb|work | mh, i think you can find computer related work in ffm/stg/muc easily - with some good qualification ofc ;o |
11:04.48 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: hey bavarian is awesome, mkay? |
11:04.54 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: freilich |
11:04.58 | Stanzilla | xD |
11:05.28 | Stanzilla | I have 0 dialect btw |
11:05.39 | Gnarfoz | sb|work: that's the problem, people don't even reply "fuck off" to applications they get for their own job offers, they just don't reply at all |
11:06.09 | Gnarfoz | (they're requesting them emailed as pdf/doc whatever, it's like ZERO work - still they couldn't care less it seems) |
11:06.13 | nevcairiel | Then you call them and bother them to say "fuck off" to your face .. well over phone .. :p |
11:06.34 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that works, but - same result |
11:06.54 | Gnarfoz | it's just agonizing to know that they don't even care enough to fire off a canned reply |
11:08.47 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, i need to send some more canned applications |
11:09.41 | Gnarfoz | :P |
11:09.42 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
11:10.04 | Stanzilla | you can make me some coffee if you want :P |
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11:10.16 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: gtfo |
11:10.18 | Gnarfoz | ;\ |
11:10.33 | nevcairiel | He is another silly-southy |
11:10.49 | Repo | 10broker_altguild: 03yess 041.0beta * r4 : Tagging as 1.0beta |
11:10.51 | Stanzilla | meany :( |
11:11.00 | kalahassi | what is the difference between UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED and UNIT_SPELLCAST_FAILED_QUIET ? |
11:11.15 | nevcairiel | the one failed with a bang the other one didnt? :) |
11:11.59 | kalahassi | there has to be a difference , when /why they happen :) |
11:16.21 | Fisker | jnwhiteh must know |
11:16.34 | Fisker | jnwhiteh jnwhiteh jnwhiteh |
11:16.49 | mitch0 | if he knows, he didn't bother to share the info on wowprogramming ;) |
11:17.09 | Fisker | it doesn't work like in beetlejuice |
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11:18.30 | Megalon | if fisker is involved, it can only trigger the first event |
11:18.36 | Megalon | because Fisker never fails quietly |
11:19.08 | Fisker | oooh burn |
11:19.12 | Fisker | but i bang your mom quietly |
11:19.21 | Fisker | but that doesn't trigged failed_quiet |
11:19.36 | Megalon | it's better that way anyway |
11:19.56 | Megalon | else you'd only annoy the other people on the graveyard |
11:20.21 | Fisker | your mom is a hot necromilf |
11:20.53 | Megalon | she literally bones you back |
11:21.18 | Gnarfoz | www.instantrimshot.com |
11:21.50 | nevcairiel | IRC should be able to play sounds |
11:21.51 | nevcairiel | srsly |
11:22.30 | Arrowmaster | it can |
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11:24.21 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r132 sdkp.lua: update format of sdkpdata.lua |
11:25.09 | mitch0 | anyone know of an up-to-date, simple water elemental mod that shows remaining lifetime? |
11:26.34 | mitch0 | guess I'll just write one. seems to be pretty straightforward with GetPetTimeRemaining() |
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11:28.52 | dodga | mitch0: I just start a quartz timer in a macro that casts Shadowfiend :D |
11:29.15 | mitch0 | dodga: with hardcoded lifetime? |
11:29.22 | dodga | yeah :) |
11:29.26 | mitch0 | suxorz :) |
11:29.35 | dodga | True :) |
11:29.51 | dodga | If you write such an addon, make it work with Shadowfiend, too ;) |
11:30.33 | mitch0 | it will |
11:30.39 | dodga | mucho <3 |
11:30.46 | mitch0 | as GetPetTimeRemainging() works for all pets |
11:30.59 | mitch0 | all temp pets, that is |
11:31.12 | dodga | Is that a fact, or is that how it should be? :D |
11:31.23 | mitch0 | that's what wowprogramming tells me :) |
11:31.36 | mitch0 | Returns the time remaining before a temporary pet is automatically dismissed. Temporary pets include priests' Shadowfriend, mages' Water Elemental, and various quest-related pets |
11:31.45 | dodga | So there could be all kind of f'uped quirks from Blizz in there :D |
11:32.41 | mitch0 | although I'd need some other API call to get the initial (max) value if I want a bar thingy, not just a countdown |
11:36.01 | dodga | Like, hardcoded values? :> |
11:36.15 | mitch0 | meh, talents change lifetimes |
11:36.38 | dodga | Scan on P_E_W or talent change :D |
11:37.05 | dodga | Or maybe look in the tooltip? :o |
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11:39.02 | bluspacecow | oh hai guys |
11:39.35 | mitch0 | tooltip scanning is teh evil |
11:41.40 | bluspacecow | oh rly ? |
11:42.18 | Pneumatus^^ | fail, one of my chars got copied to PTR while i was in ulduar |
11:42.59 | bluspacecow | thats a point ..... PTR still up ? |
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11:58.50 | mitch0 | dodga: do you have a unit frame for your shadowthings? |
12:00.04 | mitch0 | actually, the real question is wether UNIT_PET fires for those or not (and druids' tree things and shamans wolfy things) |
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12:00.59 | bluspacecow | ~coffee dodga |
12:01.00 | purl | ACTION steals some of pb_ee1's special coffee and gives it to dodga on a silver platter. |
12:01.00 | Repo | 10broker_altguild: 03yess * r5 .pkgmeta: fix .pkgmeta hopefully |
12:02.08 | sb|work | mitch0: yes, there is a unitframes for shadowfiend pets |
12:02.10 | mitch0 | what's the name of the shaman wolf thingy? (not the one that lets them change) |
12:02.28 | bluspacecow | the wolfies |
12:02.39 | bluspacecow | where the cute ghost dogs come out and attack things ? |
12:02.44 | mitch0 | yes |
12:02.53 | bluspacecow | Feral Spirit |
12:02.56 | bluspacecow | i think |
12:03.34 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51533 |
12:03.41 | mitch0 | found it thanks. |
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12:03.54 | mitch0 | do _they_ have unit frames, too? :) |
12:04.50 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
12:04.59 | bluspacecow | nah i think they're just a pet frame |
12:05.09 | Pneumatus^^ | one of the ghostwolfs will get a petframe |
12:05.33 | mitch0 | so presumably UNIT_PET fires for those as well |
12:05.49 | bluspacecow | hang on |
12:06.20 | bluspacecow | gimme a minute I can confirm that on the PTR at least |
12:06.23 | sztanpet | i dont know but i think they should, they can stun and all |
12:06.35 | mitch0 | blue: thanks |
12:07.34 | mitch0 | LibCandyBar automagically updates the time remaining, right? |
12:07.39 | mitch0 | (-3.0) |
12:08.59 | ThiefMaster | so.. with the totem bar using action slots - will addons be able to configure the totem sets or not? i remember actionbar saving addons before 3.1 sometimes required a reloadui to work properly which would be extremely annoying (e.g. when using raidtotems to configure the totemsets of all shamans) |
12:09.30 | bluspacecow | afk |
12:10.44 | nevcairiel | Is 3 sets saved in the default ui not enough? :) |
12:12.03 | ThiefMaster | well i don't really like the default ui with the predefined sets. i prefer the way TT works (where you simply choose the 4 addons for your current set instead of choosing predefined sets) |
12:12.18 | ThiefMaster | additionally, i really like the mouseover stuff instead of clicking the button to open the totem list :P |
12:12.31 | bluspacecow | Thiefmaster : are you talking about the new totem bar in 3.2 ? |
12:12.32 | nevcairiel | you could easily change that |
12:12.36 | ThiefMaster | yes |
12:12.45 | bluspacecow | i've got it up right now |
12:13.01 | bluspacecow | theres 3 different spells |
12:13.09 | bluspacecow | you right click to select a different set |
12:13.11 | kalahassi | didnt blizzard tell us that the cannons which are in your base in the isle of conquest can be repaired in 8 seconds? |
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12:13.17 | ThiefMaster | yeah i know it, already tested it |
12:13.26 | ThiefMaster | but as a raid leader it's very comfortable if you can configure the *active* totem set for all shamans like you do for paladins with pallypower |
12:13.38 | ThiefMaster | not having to tell everyone what totems they should use etc.. |
12:13.49 | bluspacecow | ah |
12:14.51 | ThiefMaster | and being lazy, i'd rather want a rightclick on any totem button cast call of earth (or whatever totemic call was renamed to) instead of having to click the extra button (which just wastes valuable space ;)) |
12:15.56 | bluspacecow | mitch : just did a /eventtrace and called up my dogs |
12:16.15 | bluspacecow | PET_BAR_UPDATE_COOLDOWN is fired |
12:16.34 | bluspacecow | eventULLT |
12:16.38 | bluspacecow | eventually |
12:16.53 | mitch0 | but not UNIT_PET? |
12:16.59 | bluspacecow | spell cast at 4.13.18.336 |
12:17.19 | bluspacecow | PET_BAR_UPDATE_COOLDOWN fires at 4:13.18.878 |
12:17.39 | bluspacecow | cant see it in the event log |
12:17.57 | mitch0 | hrmp |
12:18.39 | bluspacecow | oh wait |
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12:19.21 | bluspacecow | 04.13.18.839 UNIT_PET arg 1 = Player |
12:19.26 | mitch0 | that's it |
12:19.26 | bluspacecow | theres 3 like that |
12:19.27 | mitch0 | cool |
12:19.36 | bluspacecow | for ... 3 doggies ! |
12:19.38 | bluspacecow | :D |
12:20.07 | bluspacecow | ?? |
12:20.10 | mitch0 | are these pets moving as a pack? or can they separate |
12:20.16 | mitch0 | ? |
12:20.37 | bluspacecow | "04.13.18.882 UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED" arg1 - pet arg2 = spawn smoke (druid) |
12:20.49 | bluspacecow | damn droods been teaching my doggies how to smoke ! |
12:21.41 | bluspacecow | oh i love these new built in addon debugging tools :D |
12:21.56 | mitch0 | I should hop on to ptr to test these things |
12:21.57 | bluspacecow | generally they move as a pack |
12:22.03 | bluspacecow | mmhmm |
12:22.17 | kalahassi | does the blizzard debug addon still cause lua-errors? |
12:22.22 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
12:22.34 | ThiefMaster | they should add /rl instead of /reload ;x |
12:22.35 | bluspacecow | kalahassi what lua errors were you getting > |
12:22.37 | Arrowmaster | i havent seen a diff yet |
12:22.47 | Arrowmaster | bluspacecow: it was totally broken last build |
12:22.52 | bluspacecow | arrow : theres one up on wowace.com |
12:22.53 | mitch0 | blusp: would you mind what RangeDisplay does with them? (enable "Pet" unit, then reload [the reload issue is fixed in the latest alpha, but that's drycoded]) |
12:22.59 | bluspacecow | i was using it last build |
12:22.59 | mitch0 | s/mind/mind check/ |
12:23.37 | bluspacecow | last build you needed to enable it via the addons menu under "Blizzard Development Tools: |
12:23.40 | bluspacecow | opps |
12:23.44 | bluspacecow | PTR world server down |
12:23.56 | mitch0 | you killed it... |
12:24.41 | kalahassi | i've beent trying to play there for hours, but only lost one bg-match |
12:25.15 | bluspacecow | kk brb need to go hang washing .... |
12:25.26 | kalahassi | you can't get the healthvalue of the 6 gates in the isle of conquest, can you? |
12:27.33 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r83 Core.lua: Hopefully fixed ticket #17. |
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12:33.18 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel |
12:33.20 | Fisker | people are funny |
12:33.37 | Fisker | "The 2% users Blizzard is going to lose on no lan doesn't matter" |
12:33.42 | p4aved | ~wowalert |
12:33.42 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
12:33.51 | Fisker | "Losing for 2% users for no reason does matter" |
12:34.08 | Fisker | "I don't think they'll lose customers either way, it's just there for anti-piracy" |
12:34.13 | pb_ee1 | dodga, give me back my coffee !! |
12:34.17 | Fisker | "If they don't lose any customers how is anti-piracy relevant?" >:3 |
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12:40.41 | Arrowmaster | i looked at the framexml diff, the debugtools still breaks stuff |
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12:42.56 | bluspacecow | how ? in what way does it break stuff ? whats the expected method of it breaking stuff (ie what would you see) |
12:43.13 | Arrowmaster | well they completely broke message() |
12:43.33 | Arrowmaster | and the debugstacks that come from the new error frame are wrong |
12:43.43 | bluspacecow | dang |
12:43.51 | bluspacecow | i was using /eventtrace before |
12:43.52 | Dessa | Fisker: wtf are you talking about? |
12:43.58 | bluspacecow | is that bugged to ? |
12:44.23 | Pneumatus^^ | Arrowmaster: is framestack still playing up as well? |
12:44.57 | Arrowmaster | nothing was changed in the debug tools other than it seems somebody heard my bitching about the retarded pairs({...}) |
12:45.11 | bluspacecow | idk arrow |
12:45.24 | bluspacecow | in the last build it was actually in the addons list |
12:45.27 | bluspacecow | now its not |
12:45.54 | Arrowmaster | thats not a framexml change |
12:46.07 | Arrowmaster | thats something else in the C code to hide it |
12:46.23 | bluspacecow | ah so fairly minor then |
12:48.58 | kalahassi | libhealcomm reports totally wrong numbers on the ptr, did they change so many talents or is it cause by something else? |
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12:56.06 | Adirelle|work | Fisker: what where you speaking about ("2% user loss") ? |
12:56.52 | Fisker | some people arguing why it shouldn't have lan |
12:57.04 | Fisker | Saying that Blizzard wouldn't care about, for example a 2% user loss |
12:57.33 | Adirelle|work | I'm completely miss the context |
12:57.43 | EthanCentaurai | http://www.zam.com/story.html?story=18649 |
12:58.01 | Fisker | Basically the claim was that he doubted any player would even care, and if they did the small loss of users would be irrelevant |
12:58.15 | Fisker | And i told him that if people didn't care and if sales would be largely unaffected, why bother removing it? |
12:59.37 | Adirelle|work | do they remove it ? or do they save the time of adding it ? |
12:59.51 | Fisker | There's nothing to add or remove |
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13:00.41 | Adirelle|work | lan does not follow the same architecture than a centralized server |
13:00.52 | Fisker | The game supports any kind of TCP/IP (Or UDP) connection which is indifferent of network arcitechture |
13:00.58 | Adirelle|work | handling both means developping a bit more code, supporting it, etc... |
13:01.11 | Fisker | Adirelle|work Blizzard won't make it a client-server model lol |
13:01.29 | Adirelle|work | well, that's roughly what the article says |
13:01.33 | Adirelle|work | connection will be handled by b.net |
13:01.43 | Arrowmaster | then what is it if its not client-server? |
13:01.56 | Fisker | (Which btw wouldn't matter unless Battle.net itself hosted the game) |
13:02.05 | Arrowmaster | sc1 was client-server |
13:02.07 | Fisker | Sauce Adirelle |
13:02.25 | Fisker | Arrowmaster and why do you think it's P2P now? |
13:02.38 | Arrowmaster | you just said its not client-server |
13:02.47 | Adirelle|work | but anyway, handling LAN still need specific developpment and support over unique b.net support |
13:02.56 | Fisker | we're talking about SC2 Arrowmaster |
13:02.56 | bluspacecow | which game we talking about here ? |
13:03.00 | Fisker | no Adirelle |
13:03.02 | Arrowmaster | p2p is a seriously shitty way to do games |
13:03.09 | Arrowmaster | its going to be a major failure if its p2p |
13:03.20 | Fisker | Only if Battle.net itself hosts the game and the client connects to Battle.net to play the game (Not just find the game etc.) |
13:03.43 | nevcairiel | strategy has always been p2p more or less |
13:03.49 | Fisker | ^^ |
13:03.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
13:03.53 | Fisker | yes |
13:03.54 | nevcairiel | WC3 and SC1 just find game hosts through battle.net |
13:04.00 | nevcairiel | and directly connect |
13:04.01 | Fisker | WC3 is P2p |
13:04.02 | nevcairiel | D2 did too |
13:04.03 | Fisker | P2P |
13:04.11 | Arrowmaster | one player acts as the host aka server and the rest are clients |
13:04.19 | Fisker | That's still P2P |
13:04.24 | Fisker | And not true btw |
13:04.26 | Arrowmaster | p2p is like the demigod failure |
13:04.45 | nevcairiel | There is no "central server" for stragey games, is all |
13:04.51 | Fisker | As far as i recall WC3 games can still continue when the hoster leaves the game |
13:04.53 | nevcairiel | players connec to each other |
13:04.57 | nevcairiel | which is pretty much p2p |
13:05.00 | Arrowmaster | right but one player still acts as the host or server for the match |
13:05.19 | bluspacecow | O_O |
13:05.27 | bluspacecow | <----- just saw the new bear form |
13:05.30 | bluspacecow | big butt |
13:05.38 | bluspacecow | really really really big butt |
13:05.39 | nevcairiel | modern strategy games try to re-establish a new "server" if the old one leaves |
13:05.43 | nevcairiel | but that doesnt always work |
13:06.07 | phyber | host migration, great for when the host rage quits ;) |
13:06.28 | Adirelle|work | anyway, no feature comes at no cost |
13:06.43 | Adirelle|work | and even if LAN is very similar to b.net games (even in p2p) |
13:06.44 | nevcairiel | its still pretty much a distributed system, as every player can be the server |
13:06.51 | Adirelle|work | it is not exactly the same |
13:06.56 | Fisker | It is exactly the same |
13:07.02 | Adirelle|work | you have at least to to LAN discovery |
13:07.11 | nevcairiel | yeah, a broadcast =P |
13:07.12 | Fisker | That has nothing to do with the game itself |
13:07.23 | Fisker | And it doesn't take a minute to code |
13:07.26 | Adirelle|work | no, but you have still to pay people to do the job |
13:07.30 | Fisker | and they already have it for b.net |
13:07.34 | Arrowmaster | i dont consider that p2p, since a few games recently have been trying real p2p stuff and its been nothing but failures and rampent cheating because its so abusable |
13:07.35 | Fisker | They just have to scale it down for the client |
13:08.11 | Fisker | After the engine started working the first thing they had working was LAN |
13:08.12 | Adirelle|work | "have to scale it down" ? |
13:08.24 | Adirelle|work | how do i do that in term of coding ? |
13:08.43 | mitch0 | remove every second line, doh! |
13:08.44 | nevcairiel | coding a lan mode is like no work, they just decided to not want it |
13:08.48 | Fisker | punch the keys (for gods sake) |
13:09.34 | Adirelle|work | ok, so I better understand what just happened ^^ |
13:09.43 | phyber | D2 style "TCP/IP" where you stuck in the players IP address. < scaled down. |
13:12.24 | kadrahil | punches Fisker |
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13:29.07 | mitch0 | so, have you guys heard that SC2 will not support LAN play? |
13:29.12 | mitch0 | :P |
13:29.40 | sb|work | mitch0 is now known as Fisker2? :P |
13:31.19 | Bruners | nevcairiel: im guessing its to prevent some piracy |
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13:31.57 | nevcairiel | Like that many people play it illegally in multiplayer |
13:32.06 | nevcairiel | single player they still cannot stop =P |
13:32.08 | mitch0 | but they will loose like 2% of players! |
13:32.22 | Daemona | sure they could require you to bnet connect for singleplayer |
13:32.34 | Bruners | ~can' |
13:32.38 | nevcairiel | They would lose even more players then |
13:32.46 | Bruners | can't be that hard to fake a battle.net server? |
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13:32.55 | Lysithea | they'll probably do it like steam |
13:33.05 | Lysithea | gotta login to auth then play via lan somehow |
13:33.17 | nevcairiel | Steam has an "Offline Mode" too |
13:33.19 | Lysithea | to prevent piracy etc |
13:33.24 | nevcairiel | you can play LAN without any connection |
13:33.32 | nevcairiel | *internet connection |
13:33.33 | Lysithea | yeah |
13:33.39 | Lysithea | but blizz will do something similar |
13:33.41 | cauchy | heh |
13:33.44 | cauchy | b srs |
13:33.47 | Lysithea | but just not pure lan straight away |
13:33.54 | cauchy | sc2 will be most definetly worth buyign |
13:34.00 | cauchy | buying even |
13:34.12 | nevcairiel | They wouldnt say there is "no LAN mode" if you can still play in LAN o.O |
13:34.26 | nevcairiel | its not about buying cauchy, its about requiring internet to play |
13:36.01 | cauchy | ah |
13:36.11 | cauchy | well, someone was saying something about piracy |
13:36.20 | cauchy | so i assumed you're talking about this topic |
13:37.03 | cauchy | i wouldn't play over LAN anyway |
13:37.04 | cauchy | ;\ |
13:37.13 | cauchy | don't have with whom :( |
13:37.18 | cauchy | no friends, no life |
13:37.24 | cauchy | imma wow player :( |
13:38.24 | Bruners | the big thing with SC was the LAN-part, but that was mostly due to people having shitty 14k modems |
13:38.58 | cauchy | well |
13:39.21 | cauchy | in 98 in my country in my areas it was not even possible to get dial up :) |
13:39.37 | cauchy | so i could only play over LAN :) |
13:39.52 | Bruners | i had interwebs in 95 |
13:39.52 | mitch0 | TCP over Pigeon Carrier |
13:40.05 | Bruners | not that it was used |
13:40.27 | Adirelle|work | TCP/PC ? |
13:40.35 | sb|work | wtb word-kick on "sc2" + "no lan" :/ |
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13:41.35 | mitch0 | adirelle: http://www.scribd.com/doc/10571/RFC-1149 |
13:41.43 | Fisker | Here's the deal |
13:41.46 | Fisker | You can't prevent piracy |
13:41.47 | Fisker | end. |
13:41.59 | Bruners | Fisker: you can |
13:42.35 | Bruners | Open Source, Free, Killing humanity etc |
13:43.11 | Fisker | oh burn Bruners |
13:43.30 | Fisker | open source and killing humaniy doesn't prevent piracy though |
13:44.13 | cauchy | there's one minor drawback with open source |
13:44.34 | cauchy | you can't get as much money from it as you could from payed software |
13:45.16 | Adirelle|work | remember than open source does not mean free sofware |
13:46.08 | cauchy | i do know that |
13:46.25 | cauchy | open source means your source is free to view though |
13:46.43 | cauchy | at least i hope it does, if it doesn't i'm in grave trouble |
13:50.20 | ckknight | if copyright were abolished, I bet people would still hide their source code and call it trade secrets |
13:50.32 | ckknight | not much would change except piracy would become legal |
13:50.48 | ckknight | it's not as though all the companies would just hold hands and release their source |
13:51.23 | mitch0 | stupid patents are more of a problem than copyright |
13:51.33 | ckknight | no rebuttal there |
13:52.01 | mitch0 | copyright's only issue is that it's granted for too long |
13:52.21 | ckknight | but patents are a deeper issue, with little to do with piracy at all, it's more hard-hitting the software and product producers rather than the consumers |
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13:52.40 | p4aved | ati and nvidia driver source code will never be released |
13:52.52 | p4aved | because they use each others patents without paying royalties |
13:52.55 | mitch0 | ati released most of their stuff already... |
13:53.02 | p4aved | most |
13:57.00 | sb|work | oh well, rammstein now officially "sold out" :/ |
13:57.35 | mitch0 | rammstein as in the annoying white-noise band? |
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13:58.57 | sb|work | uhm - yes i'm talking about the band - i didn't get the other part :p |
13:59.49 | mitch0 | :) |
14:00.05 | mitch0 | kids these they grow up on all sort of shit music... |
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14:00.50 | mitch0 | s/they/days/ |
14:00.51 | mitch0 | meh |
14:01.45 | cauchy | and pink floyd still stand strong |
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14:20.37 | yoshimo | i want to enter the new 5man instance on the ptr to have a look at it. but the game complains about "youre not 75 yet" although im lvl 80. can i do something about this? |
14:20.59 | EthanCentaurai | I don't think it's available yet |
14:21.20 | kadrahil | :| |
14:21.25 | yoshimo | they told me you can visit it, but no mobs are inside |
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14:27.35 | thul | http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/24/the-blue-and-the-green/ |
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14:37.12 | yoshimo | how does wg behave on the testrealm? there is no battle and the alliance is in control |
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14:53.25 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker_altguild/. Broker_AltGuild. yess (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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15:13.33 | Bruners | what tooltip addon are people using now? |
15:13.50 | sylvaan | have they opened anything on the ptr yet |
15:14.14 | sylvanaar | or reopenrf |
15:14.18 | sylvanaar | reopened |
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15:14.36 | Torhal | Bruners: TipTac. I was using TipTop but it severely lags when hovering over certain things. |
15:16.15 | kadrahil | is till use tinytip :( |
15:16.19 | kadrahil | err, i still* |
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15:20.42 | Repo | 10malygosstacks: 03Flyhard 06fixing_unitdebuff_changes * r25 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Added the Addonloader Zones for German |
15:20.46 | Repo | - The debuff belongs to the vehicle, so I changed this. |
15:21.13 | Kaelten | g'morning |
15:21.29 | Bruners | morning Kaelten |
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15:24.40 | yoshimo | koralon is the only new boss/instance available |
15:24.45 | Bruners | Torhal: have you used TipTac recently? |
15:24.57 | Bruners | Torhal: as in it could have been updated to fix the lag thingie |
15:26.41 | Torhal | Bruners: TipTop? Not in a couple of months. |
15:31.55 | Repo | 10malygosstacks: 03Flyhard 06fixing_unitdebuff_changes 043.1_working * r26 : Tagging as 3.1_working |
15:34.34 | Jamash | Ha! I fixed my event problem! Turns out it had nothing to do with AceEvent, I was registering an event and then immediately unregistering it elsewhere :P |
15:35.08 | Torhal | I blame Zhinjio. |
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15:55.19 | Kaelten | Looking for someone running Mac OS 10.4 |
15:55.27 | Kaelten | that's willing to test something for me |
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16:02.49 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2128 / (8 files in 4 directories): - Fix wishlist bugs |
16:02.52 | Repo | - Add "Always use default Wishlist" Option |
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16:05.00 | sztanpet | http://wowraid.com/index.php?topic=429.0 for bigwigs boss triggers :D |
16:05.03 | Torhal | orionshock: Hmm. Crossover Games allows me to turn everything up without the graphical corruption. |
16:05.25 | Daemona | uuh anyone on the ptr atm? is the combat log disabled or am i too blind to find the option to enable it? |
16:05.52 | Torhal | Daemona: I keep getting on the PTR, long enough for it to crash (Broxigar) |
16:06.13 | Daemona | i am fine on eu-remulos but i dont have a combat log ^^ |
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16:09.16 | Daemona | hmm on a sidenote, anyone figured out how the poisoned blood ravasaur quest is supposed to work? |
16:09.25 | Daemona | i am two hitting the mobs without weapons :( |
16:09.35 | Daemona | how am i supposed to get poisoned by fighting them.... |
16:09.41 | nicoli_s | just hit em once and wait it out |
16:09.43 | nevcairiel | naked? :) |
16:10.04 | yoshimo | run through them and dont hit them? |
16:11.04 | Daemona | "you'd need to be splashed with poisonous vlood while fighting ..." |
16:11.17 | Daemona | which implies some ret-aura style dmg when you hit them |
16:11.32 | nevcairiel | Daemona: i just logged in and my combatlog is visible like always |
16:11.36 | sacarasc | Use 0 damage spells! |
16:12.06 | nicoli_s | are there any cool alliance only mounts? |
16:12.16 | nicoli_s | cuz its kind unfair they are doing a cool horde only one |
16:12.18 | sacarasc | The wintersabre tiger thing. |
16:13.31 | Daemona | nicoli_s since when do you play wow? o.O |
16:13.55 | durcyn | ravasaur was mentioned as a counterpart for the wintersaber years ago |
16:14.03 | durcyn | it just took them forever to get off their ass and do it |
16:14.23 | Daemona | they obviously need more interns |
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16:16.06 | sacarasc | I'd prefer a ravasaur rather than a wintersabre. |
16:16.56 | pentium166 | i hope the ravasaur is a very light purple or pink |
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16:21.08 | bluspacecow | blah |
16:21.25 | bluspacecow | really starting to hate the format of the vent .ini files |
16:22.03 | Daemona | as a troll sacarasc i can attest you, raptors get boring fast |
16:22.57 | Daemona | so.. i knocked out 10 venomhide ravasaurs naked, unarmed now and not 1 time i got poisoned... |
16:23.10 | Daemona | is annoyed and writes a suggestion using the cool tool. |
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16:42.40 | Hirsute | nicoli_s: I don't particularly care if they do a "cool horde-only one". I'm more interested that people are comparing it to the Wintersaber mount though. Does that mean you have to do a nasty rep grind with the NPC in Un'Goro before you can train the mount? |
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16:43.49 | yoshimo | 20 times daylies if i remember correctly from the ptr-forum |
16:44.17 | durcyn | 3 weeks of bothersome dailies, probably -longer- than wintersaber takes at this point |
16:44.59 | ckknight | Firefox 3.5 released |
16:45.08 | nevcairiel | Hours ago |
16:45.16 | durcyn | diff from rc3 is what, other than the version number? |
16:45.21 | bluspacecow | hey cam |
16:45.36 | nevcairiel | No idea, i've been running the 3.5 trunk builds for a while |
16:47.14 | Hirsute | Interesting. |
16:48.58 | EthanCentaurai | can't decide to switch to Firefox for stick with Safari |
16:49.19 | bluspacecow | Safari 4 I likes |
16:50.19 | durcyn | I've found webkit and mozilla to be pretty close on rendering, it's really a question of which interface annoys you less |
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16:50.46 | ckknight | I switched to Safari a few days ago |
16:50.48 | ckknight | from Firefox |
16:51.10 | ckknight | I had severe issues with Firefox and having lots of tabs |
16:51.31 | EthanCentaurai | Firefox 3.5 uses 120Mb idling on the WowAce homepage whereas Safari only uses 35Mb... O.o |
16:52.10 | EthanCentaurai | admittedly the only thing I miss in Safari is NoScript |
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16:52.28 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2129 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
16:52.34 | durcyn | noscript causes more problems than it solves |
16:53.05 | bluspacecow | i like the profilling tools in safari myself |
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16:53.22 | Kaelten | I'm a safari 4 user just about everywhere now |
16:53.41 | Kaelten | Unrelated, has anyone pimped the new addon sync feature in cc4 for people? |
16:53.50 | Kaelten | we need people to test it :) |
16:54.03 | EthanCentaurai | needs a cup of cocoa |
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16:56.05 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: what does it do? |
16:56.14 | Gnarfoz | I'm not pressing random buttons just to see what happens :D |
16:56.33 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: It will allow you to create online backups of your addons and sync them with multiple computers |
16:56.35 | Kaelten | think foxmarks |
16:57.04 | durcyn | including savedvariables? |
16:57.08 | Gnarfoz | what is foxmarks? |
16:57.09 | Kaelten | durcyn: not yet |
16:57.17 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: bookmark sync service |
16:57.20 | Gnarfoz | (but I guess it is... bookmark sync) |
16:57.22 | Zhinjio | Heya Kaelten. |
16:57.51 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: xmarks.com |
16:57.51 | durcyn | they dropped the 'fo' portion when they released the plugins for other browsers, fwiw |
16:58.07 | Kaelten | yeah |
16:58.34 | Bruners | Kaelten: i'm testing and reporting :) |
17:00.24 | Kaelten | Cool |
17:00.26 | Kaelten | grabbing lunchh |
17:00.42 | bluspacecow | ~time |
17:00.43 | purl | You cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2009.06.30 17:00:43 GMT) |
17:01.29 | Bruners | ~seen xinhuan |
17:01.30 | purl | xinhuan <n=xinhuan@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/xinhuan> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 12m 37s ago, saying: 'i don't see how any other addon would set myframe.DoThisShitData'. |
17:01.41 | Bruners | what time zone is Xinhuan in? |
17:02.08 | nevcairiel | something chinese |
17:02.19 | Torhal | Taiwan, I believe. |
17:05.50 | Bruners | GMT+6~8 maby then |
17:06.50 | Gnarfoz | singapore |
17:07.13 | Gnarfoz | +8 |
17:07.48 | Gnarfoz | there should be a section about xinhuan on wikipedia's Singapore article. |
17:08.01 | Torhal | Hah |
17:08.47 | bluspacecow | XD |
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17:18.44 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r67 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added: Overwhelming Power - The Iron Council |
17:18.47 | Repo | Fix: Trade, General, LocalDefense stats reporting |
17:20.07 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r68 EnsidiaFails.lua: Fix: Trade, General, LocalDefense stats reporting |
17:20.45 | Stanzilla | awesome |
17:20.55 | Stanzilla | fail reporting in trade chat :D |
17:21.07 | Caleb| | it was the stats |
17:21.14 | Caleb| | not the actual fails |
17:21.19 | Stanzilla | ah ok |
17:21.27 | Caleb| | you don't even have trade chat inside an instance |
17:21.35 | Caleb| | silly Stanzilla |
17:21.50 | Stanzilla | I know but...yeah ok :( |
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17:34.17 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r69 EnsidiaFails.lua: |
17:34.19 | Repo | stats channel reporting fix (should definitely test more before committing) |
17:37.28 | Gnarfoz | Caleb|: testing is for the weak, ask Ackis, he has 450/450 Drycoding |
17:38.44 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta7-9-g4cd01a6 GearGauge.lua: [+1 commit] Added PTR compatibility check for GetQuestDifficultyColor. |
17:39.14 | yoshimo | i think there is a generalchat for each instance |
17:39.30 | Gnarfoz | of course there is |
17:39.42 | nevcairiel | who reads general chat? |
17:40.03 | nevcairiel | its like fisker talking to himself |
17:40.23 | Gnarfoz | it's scrub 10mans who wipe to FL distracting you while doing yogg |
17:41.23 | Bruners | in my old guild we got kicked from the raid for talking in the general chat:P |
17:41.33 | Grum | as you should :P |
17:42.16 | Bruners | think it started with people talking in general chat during vash attempts instead of doing what they should be doing |
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17:43.21 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r70 EnsidiaFails.lua: |
17:43.24 | Repo | added the missing options for Overwhelming Power (seriously, today is just not my day) |
17:43.48 | Caleb| | I kinda fail today |
17:44.05 | Caleb| | good that we only had yogg left for the reset |
17:48.25 | NeoTron | I'm just glad we got yogg:10+1 and not just got it buthad solid attempts all night |
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17:49.18 | NeoTron | tonight or tomorrow I hope we can finish Firefighter for mount + peek of algalon |
17:55.51 | Pneumatus | hmm, rawr has decided that mp5/healcrit is better than int/mana restore meta for me :o |
17:57.31 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat 042.0 * r71 : Tagging as 2.0 |
17:57.38 | Gnarfoz | bold |
17:57.49 | Caleb| | you think so? |
17:57.55 | Gnarfoz | tagging a major release 30 min after fucking up 3 commits |
17:57.56 | Gnarfoz | :D |
17:58.04 | Gnarfoz | 2.1 is right around the corner, I bet :D |
17:58.15 | Caleb| | you are probably right |
17:58.35 | Caleb| | this day can't get much worse |
17:58.38 | Caleb| | so just gonna go with the flow |
17:59.29 | Gnarfoz | what's the temperature like over there? |
17:59.37 | Gnarfoz | "over there" sounds like I'm american lol |
17:59.52 | NeoTron | so looking at the exodus yogg+0 video |
18:00.02 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: old, IBTL |
18:00.05 | NeoTron | I know |
18:00.07 | Gnarfoz | err you were saying? |
18:00.08 | Gnarfoz | :D |
18:00.23 | NeoTron | but that wasn't my point. anyhow looking at it I don't get how you can handle all those guardians to get a kill |
18:00.26 | Caleb| | well over here in Hungary, its 27 degrees, sun is going down little wind blowing, a bit cloudy |
18:00.32 | Gnarfoz | wind |
18:00.35 | Gnarfoz | envy :< |
18:00.42 | Caleb| | its been raining on and off the couple of days, so its not THAT Hot |
18:00.44 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: well... that's the point. you can't |
18:00.50 | Gnarfoz | Caleb|: RAIN?! |
18:00.52 | Caleb| | the swedes in the guild are dieing tho |
18:00.55 | Gnarfoz | Caleb|: I'm moving. |
18:01.07 | Gnarfoz | sadly, I don't speak a word of hungarian :\ |
18:01.17 | Caleb| | there doesn't goes one minute by without someone whining about how hot it is |
18:01.33 | Gnarfoz | I can see why |
18:01.36 | Gnarfoz | :D |
18:01.37 | Caleb| | most important word is "sör" |
18:01.41 | NeoTron | because AC isn't very common in Sweden |
18:01.48 | Caleb| | sör = beer |
18:01.52 | Gnarfoz | AC isn't common... anywhere outside US imho |
18:02.07 | NeoTron | in fact I don't recall being in a home in Sweden with AC ever |
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18:02.19 | AKX | NeoTron: but... but... high power DC transfer isn't very effective! |
18:02.22 | Gnarfoz | homes with AC, that sounds so America ;o |
18:02.28 | Gnarfoz | AKX: lol |
18:03.30 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: mind you, many places in the US are mostly AC less as well... like the Seattle area |
18:04.01 | Gnarfoz | well, I wouldn't know, my first hand experience is limited to SF, CA and Portland, OR |
18:05.02 | nicoli_s | man i loved san fran |
18:05.46 | Gnarfoz | only had 4 days of it |
18:05.47 | Gnarfoz | :< |
18:06.35 | nicoli_s | i spent 2 seperate weeks there and loved it |
18:06.41 | nicoli_s | even though i was working the first week |
18:06.42 | NeoTron | about. fucking. time |
18:06.50 | NeoTron | a single token for any armor piece |
18:08.31 | NeoTron | of course flipside is that it appears that only goes for hard mode 25 gear... with normal 10/25/hard 10 requiring badges |
18:09.55 | Adirelle | NeoTron: did I correctly understand ? AC = alternative current ? |
18:10.02 | NeoTron | air conditioning |
18:10.09 | Adirelle | so DC = ? xD |
18:10.38 | NeoTron | DEAD CURRENT |
18:10.59 | NeoTron | seriously though, AC is overloaded |
18:11.07 | NeoTron | pun not intended |
18:11.28 | Adirelle | ^^ |
18:11.37 | Adirelle | that reminds me of a xkcd strip |
18:11.42 | Adirelle | no pun intended |
18:11.58 | Gnarfoz | that's almost rule 34-ish these days |
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18:19.39 | Adirelle | ~uTP |
18:19.40 | purl | [utp] Unshielded Twisted Pair |
18:19.47 | Adirelle | grmbl |
18:20.58 | Adirelle | µtorrent changelog is speaking about uTP, I don't know what is but I'd bet it is not Unshielded Twisted Pair |
18:21.58 | Bruners | maby utorrent transfer protocol? |
18:22.41 | Gnarfoz | fucking non-unicoders ;o |
18:23.17 | nevcairiel | uTP (UDP torrenting) |
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18:25.36 | Adirelle | nevcairiel won |
18:26.35 | Adirelle | sorry Gnarfoz , I thought if was using Unicode already, still digging in x-chat options |
18:27.03 | Gnarfoz | Adirelle: huh? no, not you :) |
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18:27.21 | Adirelle | ah ok |
18:27.35 | Gnarfoz | Adirelle: the people who are responsible for it being called 'utorrent' widely |
18:27.40 | Adirelle | (that would be weird, I just find the option again, and I am actually using UTF8) |
18:27.53 | Gnarfoz | yeah, your's was perfectly legible for me, didn't mean that :) |
18:31.02 | Adirelle | BTW, about uTP: http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2008/12/utorrents-switch-to-udp-and-why-the-sky-isnt-falling.ars |
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18:34.38 | Adirelle | screw flash games that uses the WASD keys |
18:35.35 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
18:35.49 | haste | especially since WASD here is WARS |
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18:36.25 | Bruners | what was the name of that silly layout haste ? |
18:36.43 | durcyn | sounds like dumbvorak |
18:36.49 | Bruners | nope |
18:36.54 | Bruners | something even more geeky |
18:37.48 | Adirelle | haste: here it becomes ZQSD |
18:38.05 | haste | I don't use dvorak |
18:38.12 | haste | Bruners: colemak |
18:40.28 | Bruners | me likes http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13933-LonnyTooltip3PTR.html |
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18:48.10 | Lutin` | http://i40.tinypic.com/10mud54.jpg |
18:48.16 | Lutin` | So far I just have my bars set up |
18:48.29 | Lutin` | Haven't done any unit frame work yet |
18:49.05 | Lutin` | Currently I have it so that Shift, Alt and Control bring up different things on that center button panel |
18:49.44 | Lutin` | No Modifier: Damage, Shift: Buffs, Control: Heal, Alt: Bubbles and the like |
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19:00.03 | fewyn | Hmm... is there an addon that simplifies mass disenchanting everything in my bags? >_> *tends to buy a ton of greens to DE off the ah for dust to resell* |
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19:02.01 | NeoTron | anyone else find it ironic how Blizzard stated that the "one badge buys it all" system wasn't good in BC yet now are moving towards mostly-one badge system? |
19:02.09 | fewyn | yes |
19:02.18 | NeoTron | most >casual raiders will eb mostly forced to run daily dungeons at least for badges |
19:02.28 | fewyn | but then again i don't want to have to go through naxx for alts |
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19:02.44 | Caleb| | I think they ment that same badge from BT and Sunwell |
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19:02.56 | Caleb| | different tier of content shouldn't have same badge |
19:03.15 | NeoTron | Caleb|: but you have to admit you likely will eb doing daily dungeons for the triumph badges to remain as competetive as possible, heroic 25-man badges aside |
19:03.15 | Repo | 10gridstatusignored: 03Cyprias * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridStatusIgnored: initial commit |
19:03.19 | Repo | - Indicate if a member in your group is on your ignore list. |
19:03.38 | Caleb| | yeah that is something im not looking forward to NeoTron |
19:03.45 | Caleb| | hate heroics |
19:03.48 | NeoTron | and that's what they said they didn't "like" |
19:04.12 | NeoTron | and ofc ilevel 226 gear from 5-man heroics will make a lot more people feel "required" to run those as well |
19:04.16 | Caleb| | could be, sometimes its pretty hard to follow blizzards logic |
19:04.26 | Speeddymon | heroics will be dropping conquest, not triumph... |
19:04.31 | sztanpet | its the way to give people gear |
19:04.34 | NeoTron | the flipside on vanq badges is that I'll be more able to get rep levels up on alts without feeling like it's totally wasted time otherwise |
19:04.48 | sztanpet | not a big deal, raiders are still well ahead of the crowd |
19:04.50 | NeoTron | Speeddymon: but the daily quests for dungeons are triumph |
19:05.00 | Speeddymon | really?? |
19:05.01 | Speeddymon | damn |
19:05.02 | NeoTron | yes |
19:05.11 | NeoTron | and the new 5-mans are triumph too I believe |
19:05.14 | NeoTron | but not sure |
19:05.28 | nevcairiel | thats 2 per day from the quest? not that much =P |
19:05.30 | NeoTron | you can get full ilevel 245 T9 set with daily badge runs |
19:05.49 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: it's liklely more in a week than a run of the (normal) 10 man will give |
19:06.02 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: which means a 10 man raider is absolutely forced to run daily quests for badges |
19:06.05 | Speeddymon | wtf? so no t9 gear will drop in raids? |
19:06.13 | NeoTron | Speeddymon: from the looks of it, only from heroic 25 man |
19:06.22 | kadrahil | so basically |
19:06.24 | nevcairiel | not like 10man has ever been hard :D |
19:06.26 | Speeddymon | but... that'd be 9.5 then right? |
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19:06.35 | kadrahil | if you're in a guild doing heroic 25 man you will just have faster access to it |
19:06.40 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: that's not really the point - the point is I have to run 5 mans to get my raiding gear |
19:06.48 | NeoTron | Speeddymon: theer are three tiers of T9 |
19:06.55 | Speeddymon | omg |
19:06.58 | nevcairiel | You don't have to |
19:06.59 | kadrahil | wat? |
19:07.02 | nevcairiel | only if you're impatient |
19:07.08 | NeoTron | Speeddymon: ilevel 232 (triumph badges), ilevel 245 (more triumph badges) and ilevel 259 (heroic 25 man) |
19:07.16 | kadrahil | NeoTron, are you on PTR? |
19:07.26 | kadrahil | (us) |
19:07.27 | nevcairiel | the first ones also drop in 10 |
19:07.42 | Pneumatus | and 2 per heroic daily |
19:07.43 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: one piece of T9.245 would take 15 weeks to get (or 12) from nORMAL 10 man if each mob drops one badge... |
19:08.06 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: from the looks of mmo champion, the only "tier tokens" are for the 259 gear |
19:08.18 | Pneumatus | yeh there's no sign of lower tier tokens |
19:08.20 | NeoTron | kadrahil: I am but this is from mmo-champion datamining |
19:08.24 | kadrahil | NeoTron: ah ok |
19:08.52 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: and yes, that's sort of the point - I have to run daily heroic dungeons to gear up for 10 man raiding now and it's not impatience |
19:09.05 | NeoTron | if I want a full set before the next expansion, given I don't do 25's anymore, I have to do it |
19:09.06 | Pneumatus | no, you do ulduar 10man to gear up |
19:09.09 | NeoTron | nto an option |
19:09.24 | NeoTron | ulduar won't help me get Tier 9 |
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19:09.44 | NeoTron | I'm already mostly full 25 man ulduar for dps, and half ulduar for tank (some 25, mostly 10 man) |
19:10.03 | nevcairiel | meh its all speculation |
19:10.04 | kadrahil | any eta on when they're going to start testing coliseum bosses on PTR? |
19:10.12 | kadrahil | or is that speculation too ;P |
19:10.24 | durcyn | might as well be never, if they ignore feedback like they did in ulduar |
19:10.29 | kadrahil | heh |
19:11.09 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: well perhaps so but that's what it looks like now. The big unknown is how many badges the raids will give |
19:11.21 | kadrahil | sigh |
19:11.25 | NeoTron | I could see them drop more badges than previous dungeons since the prices are a lot higher |
19:11.52 | NeoTron | and there are less bosses |
19:12.01 | NeoTron | ofc I'll be doing heroic 10 man too |
19:12.01 | kadrahil | aren't there only 5 bosses? |
19:12.07 | NeoTron | I suspect theer will be 6 |
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19:12.15 | NeoTron | 5 in the area, one below (anub'arak) |
19:12.20 | nevcairiel | if you do both 10man and 25-normal, you can do alot of raiding a week :P |
19:12.22 | kadrahil | i'm actually looking forward to the vision fights |
19:12.29 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: yeah but I don't do 25's anymore |
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19:12.37 | nevcairiel | I don't raid at all anymore |
19:12.41 | nevcairiel | so its all good |
19:12.42 | kadrahil | D: |
19:12.46 | kadrahil | i'm still doing it all |
19:12.53 | kadrahil | but i kind of skipped 3.0 content |
19:12.56 | kadrahil | raid content at least |
19:13.02 | nevcairiel | i don't even play anymore, i just login once a week or so to fix some addon |
19:13.09 | kadrahil | well, i cleared naxx but i didn't care about doing any of the glory achievements |
19:13.15 | nevcairiel | the whole 3.0 and 3.1 deal was so boring |
19:13.17 | nevcairiel | nothing special |
19:13.31 | kadrahil | icecrown is really all i care about at this point |
19:13.40 | NeoTron | 10 man hard modes has renewed my interest a bit |
19:13.48 | NeoTron | enough to stick around for icecrown |
19:13.54 | kadrahil | yeah |
19:14.02 | NeoTron | I suspect once Arthras lies dead, my interest in wow will mostly stop |
19:14.12 | kadrahil | :( |
19:14.23 | nevcairiel | I dunno, my guild was kinda on a low |
19:14.26 | nevcairiel | raids were boring |
19:14.34 | nevcairiel | so i just took a break for my exams |
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19:14.38 | nevcairiel | but i doubt i'll be going back |
19:14.41 | nevcairiel | i don't miss it at all |
19:15.32 | NeoTron | I need something to spend my time on :P |
19:15.40 | nevcairiel | i have enough of stuff to do |
19:15.43 | nevcairiel | -of |
19:16.38 | nevcairiel | Its so relaxing to actually have the evenings off, no fixed appointments, no people that yell when you're just tired and want to leave early =p |
19:16.45 | kadrahil | NeoTron: i hear aion is looking pretty good! |
19:16.53 | nevcairiel | Maybe i should change realm to some friends |
19:16.55 | nevcairiel | and raid with them |
19:17.02 | nevcairiel | 10man once a week |
19:17.17 | Caleb| | you can raid 25 man once a week too :D |
19:17.24 | Repo | 10gridstatusignored: 03Cyprias * r3 GridStatusIgnored.lua: GridStatusIgnored: beta commit |
19:17.28 | kadrahil | ^ |
19:17.53 | kadrahil | wtb tanks to show up this week |
19:17.55 | nevcairiel | I liked doing hardmodes and all .. but my guild had alot of good people leave, and the "new" guys just didnt play so good |
19:18.09 | Bruners | im considering transfering to haste's realm so that i can annoy him some |
19:18.10 | kadrahil | that's rough :( |
19:18.24 | nevcairiel | so i was like the one of best healers in the guild, and no matter how many people were online, i couldn't sit out a single night |
19:18.32 | nevcairiel | was pretty much stress, not fun =P |
19:18.33 | Caleb| | well have to say that happens everywher nevcairiel |
19:18.42 | haste | oh shi- |
19:18.47 | Caleb| | even we are recruting too, since people are quiting |
19:18.54 | nevcairiel | did you hear, you can change factions soon |
19:18.55 | haste | Bruners: industrial is here already :D |
19:19.03 | nevcairiel | i could annoy haste too! |
19:19.08 | Caleb| | yeah pretty sure we gonna get some Method and IS applies :D |
19:19.08 | kadrahil | ooh |
19:19.12 | Caleb| | but its still far away |
19:19.14 | kadrahil | hah |
19:19.24 | Bruners | you can change faction? o_O |
19:19.28 | haste | soon yeh |
19:19.30 | Caleb| | will be able too |
19:19.31 | Bruners | thats kinda silly |
19:19.33 | kadrahil | yeah i was like, iniquitous and impervious merger inc, but that'll never happen |
19:19.35 | Caleb| | s/too/to/ |
19:19.36 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1027 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Rake dot portion is now properly considered a bleed |
19:19.45 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18031079410&sid=1 |
19:19.51 | Bruners | transform yourself from a tauren to a gnome? |
19:19.57 | nevcairiel | I don't think i saw it on one of the news sites yet |
19:20.03 | nevcairiel | had to dig in the forums |
19:20.29 | Caleb| | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=69505.0 nevcairiel :D |
19:20.45 | nevcairiel | that was posted an hour ago ? <.< |
19:20.52 | durcyn | that was posted yesterday |
19:20.55 | nevcairiel | oh wait yesterday |
19:21.06 | Caleb| | 24 +1 hour yes :D |
19:21.21 | nevcairiel | too many news since then |
19:21.25 | nevcairiel | pushed down way too far |
19:21.39 | nevcairiel | i only read once a day now that i stopped raiding anyway =P |
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19:23.31 | Bruners | haste: what is your guild missing or lacking of character types? |
19:24.35 | kadrahil | last night on one of our firefighter attempts in like, phase 3 |
19:24.49 | kadrahil | i somehow got down to about 300 hp |
19:24.57 | kadrahil | and was across the room from the healers |
19:25.10 | kadrahil | i lived. |
19:25.11 | kadrahil | the end |
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19:26.31 | durcyn | that's why you're a HERO |
19:28.16 | Caleb| | more of an outcast |
19:28.29 | Caleb| | ore well most heros are outcasts |
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19:33.42 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
19:33.47 | Fisker | pirates killed the lan star :( |
19:34.13 | nevcairiel | is a pirate |
19:34.27 | nevcairiel | a political pirate, though =P |
19:34.56 | durcyn | you can have a lan for $7.8 million, Fisker |
19:35.54 | NivFreak | t9 for emblems only? ewww |
19:36.10 | Caleb| | nah |
19:36.12 | Caleb| | universal tokens |
19:36.16 | Caleb| | read bit more up |
19:36.22 | Caleb| | 1 token for buying all pieces |
19:36.29 | NivFreak | right, plus emblems |
19:36.42 | Fisker | <-fullblown pirate btw |
19:36.43 | NivFreak | oh wait |
19:36.45 | Fisker | i'll pirate SC2 as well |
19:36.51 | Caleb| | I don't like the 1 token idea at all |
19:36.54 | NivFreak | oh I see |
19:36.58 | Caleb| | fckn Kungen gonna hogg all the tokens |
19:36.59 | NivFreak | the lower tier stuff is emblems |
19:37.08 | Torhal | Fisker: How are you pirating your WoW subscription? |
19:37.09 | Caleb| | don't like being on the Warrior Hunter Shaman token |
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19:37.45 | Fisker | Torhal i steal CC's for breakfeast |
19:38.03 | durcyn | NivFreak: the 258 is from hard mode 25-man drop tokens |
19:38.40 | Fisker | I want the "what if"-machine |
19:38.58 | Fisker | Maybe it beat into people's thick skulls that anti-piracy is the cancer killing anti-piracy |
19:39.16 | Rootss | Hello, I m still looking for an addon that ensure that I got my 5 stack of Devastate, Tclap +Co shout or B shout on. Any suggestion ? |
19:39.41 | Caleb| | Rootss Pitbull |
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19:39.51 | durcyn | Rootss: Utopia. |
19:39.55 | Rootss | Caleb| kk, I look at |
19:40.26 | durcyn | pitbull is unitframes that just so happen to have aura displays, utopia monitors debuff categories and displays the status regardless of the source |
19:40.32 | durcyn | i highly recommend you get utopia. |
19:40.44 | Rootss | kk, I look at it. |
19:41.04 | durcyn | hell, i highly recommend anyone who looks at a raid zone cross-eyed get utopia. |
19:42.38 | Caleb| | @describe utopia |
19:42.39 | Repo | Caleb|: http://www.wowace.com/projects/utopia/. Utopia. Utopia (aka: ZOMGDebuffs) In a perfect world, all fights would have all debuffs applied. Given the many changes to WoW with the 3.0.2 patch, I've put together this little mod to show what the... |
19:44.02 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
19:44.20 | nevcairiel | huh? |
19:44.41 | Fisker | I make so much money that even if Starcraft 2 were to be the most successful game in the world, it would still be a drop in the water compared to the shitload of money we rake in on WoW |
19:44.46 | Fisker | But i'm scared of pirates ;( |
19:45.39 | kadrahil | you need to alleviate your piratephobia |
19:45.46 | kadrahil | i suggest a picture of a pirate on your wall |
19:45.48 | kadrahil | and punching it |
19:45.50 | kadrahil | repeatedly |
19:46.43 | durcyn | Fisker already has a blow up doll with an eyepatch |
19:46.52 | durcyn | what more do you want from him? |
19:47.00 | kadrahil | but he doesn't exactly punch that |
19:47.21 | Fisker | i'm a violent lover kadrahil |
19:47.24 | Caleb| | not with his fist |
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19:53.03 | Xinhuan | hmm i just noticed my wow.exe is using 70% CPU on both my cores |
19:55.57 | kadrahil | keylogged |
19:56.04 | kadrahil | or |
19:56.05 | kadrahil | it's skynet |
19:56.11 | Torhal | kadrahil: You should change your name to keylogged |
19:56.19 | kadrahil | Torhal: why :( |
19:56.27 | Torhal | You like that word |
19:56.32 | kadrahil | i do? |
19:56.52 | Torhal | Hrm. I could have sworn I'd sen you say it a few times over the past few days. |
19:56.57 | Torhal | s/sen/seen/ |
19:56.59 | kadrahil | nope |
19:57.08 | Torhal | Owell. My mistake. |
19:57.11 | kadrahil | :) |
19:57.47 | kadrahil | Torhal: i pretty much only talk to ck about random jquery stuff |
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20:19.51 | sylvanaar | 2000 movies on one disk |
20:20.30 | sylvanaar | 1.5TB optical disk - almost big enough for arrowmaster's porn collection |
20:22.09 | sylvanaar | http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/23/beyond-blu-ray-2000-movies-on-one-disc/ |
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20:31.05 | EthanCentaurai | now that's harsh Syl :P |
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20:38.05 | Rootss | Btw, thanks for the tip about utopia. Nice addon. |
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20:56.20 | Repo | In addon:ScanVendor(): Hide the datamine tooltip when done. Fixes ticket #677 |
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21:18.04 | Repo | - Updated koKR localization. |
21:18.06 | Repo | - Fix pkgmeta. |
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22:14.54 | Repo | enhancement to quests and achievements trackers |
22:14.57 | Repo | add color config for achievement tracker (not yet fully functional even is config is done) |
22:15.48 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r160 tomQuest2.toc: add button facade to toc |
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22:48.03 | thul | http://cable.traidor.com/~traid/4chan/1237518206617.jpg |
22:48.06 | thul | was that you Fisker ? |
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22:52.50 | thul | what combat log addon do you guys recommend? |
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22:55.39 | Gain | hi |
22:55.51 | Gain | does the auto hide for cast bars not work in pitbull4? |
22:56.15 | Shefki | It does. |
22:57.15 | Gain | it isn't disappearing though |
22:58.08 | Shefki | a) You're sure you're changing the right profile. |
22:58.24 | Shefki | b) There is a bug where it breaks sometimes but it's pretty rare and I haven't figured out what's cuasing it. |
22:58.32 | Shefki | In light of b what's this show: |
22:58.46 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
22:59.59 | Gain | heh it's because I am in config mode |
23:00.18 | Shefki | Right. It's on in config mode. |
23:00.50 | Torhal | Shefki: Party pet frames are freaking out on occasion. Was in H UP last night - only party member with a pet was another Warlock, but every once in awhile phantom pet frames would appear and vanish next to the other party members' frames. |
23:01.39 | Torhal | Wish I could have pinpointed a specific thing that was causing it |
23:01.40 | Shefki | Torhal: Only happens when pets are created (player with a pet zones in, pet gets summoned, etc). I haven't managed to figure out what's causing it. |
23:01.47 | Torhal | Ah |
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23:26.50 | thul | but seriously, what kind of mutilates will this make: http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=48442 ? |
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23:42.18 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r133 newui.lua: Bugs with wispercommands and stuff... |
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23:54.16 | mitchnull | erm. the fire in undercity keeps damaging me instead of going out. what am I doing wrong? |
23:55.12 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r134 events.lua: MOAR BUGS |
23:55.25 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r135 whispercommands.lua: MOAR BUGS |
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