IRC log for #wowace on 20090628

00:20.27Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r5739 / (13 files in 2 directories): frFR Update
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00:45.58Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta1-6-g8ce143c / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fix VisualHeal for cross realm players in BGs.
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00:50.33Repo10bootycall: 03Rabbit * r8 mmmbooty.lua: Ignore 3.2 epic gems and Emblem of Triumph.
00:53.17Repo10nrt: 03Rabbit * r134 NRT.lua: Ignore 3.2 epic gems and Emblem of Triumph.
00:53.32Repo10banana-dkp: 03Rabbit * r147 BananaDKP.lua: Ignore 3.2 epic gems and Emblem of Triumph.
00:58.39Repo10addon-loader: 03mikk * r100 AddonLoader ReadMe.html: Update URL to point at wowwiki instead
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01:20.20Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta1-7-gd287e2d Main.lua: [+1 commit] Speedup for target of and target of target of frames.  Don't wait for
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01:43.00Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta1-8-g7d8fa07 Main.lua: [+1 commit] Fix a typo
01:52.00Speeddymonackis: you here?
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02:04.32Repo10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r27 / (3 files in 1 directory): - XML definition of calendar prompt appears to be working
02:09.31Gnarfoz@project bootycall
02:09.32RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bootycall/. BootyCall. Game: WoW. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Updated: 78 minutes ago
02:16.49Repo10ammo-matique: 03Anyia3 * r34 Ammo-matique.lua:
02:16.52Repo* Fix to handle unmanned vehicles/turrets in PvP (tickets #8/#9).
02:17.37Repo10ammo-matique: 03Anyia3 041.6 * r35 : Tagging as 1.6
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02:43.57Repo10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r28 / (3 files in 1 directory): - added EndItem and StartItem info to ItemDB.lua
02:44.00Repo- added new DB for spells (only has Smelt Titansteel, for now)
02:44.45Groktaranimus spawns and OMG EVERYONE PANIC!!!11!1!1111oneoneoene
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02:52.31Speeddymonlol
02:55.12Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta1-12-g76dfcae / (3 files in 3 directories): [+4 commits]
02:55.15Repo76dfcae: Fix the default texts to not adding a + to the delay for channeled spells
02:55.18Repof49a247: If the first return for LuaTexts is nil set an empty text.  Allows some
02:55.22Repo8752516: Hmm ok guess we have to actually force the update if we're in config
02:55.24Repo01585ab: Fix some weirdness in config mode where force shown frames would get
03:02.16Speeddymonanyone familiar with 3.2 code changes, specifically ones regarding the script errors popup?
03:06.21orionshockSpeeddymon: we don't know if it's going to go live
03:26.57Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r130 / (2 files in 1 directory): update libs
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05:01.12Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.50 * r183 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update
05:01.18Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r182 / (2 files in 1 directory): GatherMate_Data: Weekly update
05:03.38Repo10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme * r60 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag v2.2.2-beta2 for changeset 288e1ebf21c0
05:03.41Repo- fixed silly bug with Heroic indicators and tooltips
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05:06.50durcynAckis: ping
05:06.59Ackishi
05:07.18durcynsup with @localization junk in the ARL .toc?  my svn checkout looks like ass now
05:07.28Ackisno idea
05:07.31Ackison to do list
05:08.06Ackiswill fix after instance ok sweety?
05:08.15durcynno, just come to bed
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05:19.49Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2173 AckisRecipeList.toc: Quick fix at trying to fix svn versions toc stuff.
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05:33.05Repo10arl: 03Speeddymon * r2174 AckisRecipeList.toc: Fix TOC, permission granted by Ackis
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05:39.10shadowfauxanyone able to help me find an error in my code? my filter function works for some parts of the array but not others :$
05:39.52orionshocklink
05:40.22shadowfauxhttp://shadowfaux.pastey.net/116822-wv1a
05:41.26shadowfauxit doesn't block "is under attack" but blocks the rest of the array
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05:50.29Repo10chocolatebar: 03yess * r60 localization/koKR.lua: added koKR locale
05:50.35Xinhuanis the ! supposed to be there
05:51.52Xinhuanalternatively, the "is under attack" is under another chat message event that you didn't register for yet
05:52.23shadowfauxit comes under system i think,  it used to work with just that
05:52.32shadowfauxbut then i added the WG stuff
06:15.06Repo10libtourist-3-0: 03Sutorix * r88 LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist: Update some more minimum fishing values
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07:27.26Repo10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r51 Core.lua: Fixed main toggle.
07:29.01Repo10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r52 Options.lua: Fixed announce deletion.
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07:32.44Groktarfeels pretty
07:34.18Fiskerslaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout
07:34.23Fiskerthis is why we can't have nice things
07:35.04Groktar:(
07:35.26Groktartells the police that Fisker beats her
07:35.37Fiskerno girls on the internets
07:35.45Groktarshows them the trout shaped mark on her face
07:35.51Fiskerno exceptions
07:36.08Groktarthere was a shaman in my guild
07:36.10Groktar"lisa"
07:36.14Groktarnever heard him talk
07:36.26Groktarin the guild for like 6 months
07:36.30Groktaron the server for much longer
07:36.35Groktarnever once talked on vent
07:36.42Groktarwas bad enough to be a girl
07:36.46Groktarbut i'm pretty sure it was a dude
07:37.05Fiskerof course
07:37.10Fiskerno girls on the internet
07:38.04Groktarmy armory won't update
07:38.05Groktar:(
07:38.19Groktarfinally got rid of my essence of gossamer
07:38.20Groktarhehe
07:38.51Fiskergot the trinket from ignis?
07:38.56Groktaryogg
07:39.08Fisker10-man is for wusses
07:39.18Groktari'm next up for ignis
07:39.32Groktarthey stack
07:39.34Groktar>.>
07:39.46Groktarthe best part is that one is dodge and the other parry
07:40.02Fiskerye
07:40.07FiskerNone of them have dropped here though
07:40.19FiskerSo i'm guaranteed to be last in line
07:40.24Groktar:(
07:40.34Fiskeri figure the tanks want it first
07:41.05Groktarlol ya
07:43.21Fiskerbut damn
07:43.28Fiskerthe paladin dps libram in 3.2
07:43.34Fiskerit's so fucking insane
07:43.46Groktarlibrams make me rage
07:44.51Fiskeri make you rage
07:45.10Groktaryou get my blood going
07:45.15Groktarbut it isn't rage
07:45.18Groktar/moan
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09:14.25Repo10loan-officer: 03Sidrus * r2 / (13 files in 5 directories): Initial population.
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09:25.51EthanCentaurai@describe loan-officer
09:25.52RepoEthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/loan-officer/. Loan Officer. Loan Officer is an addon for tracking loans made to other characters. I started this addon to track the money my auction house character handed out to my other characters. I'm currently beginning...
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09:28.21Fiskeri came Gnarfoz
09:28.58Fiskersidrus does it handle item loans btw?
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09:37.21sidrusno, just money atm
09:37.58sidrusand really it's not doing much of anything.  Just got started on the project
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10:05.30Fiskerslaps Megalon around a bit with a large trout
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10:27.33Megalonsets Fisker on fire
10:27.49Megalonwhats up asbestos-troll
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10:46.43Fiskerwhy so hostile?
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10:51.02Repo10visualheal: 03xbeeps * r26 VisualHeal.lua: - Fix event handling issue
10:54.10Repo10visualheal: 03xbeeps 048.8 * r27 : Tagging as 8.8
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11:17.52Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5740 / (3 files in 2 directories): koKR Update
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11:42.44orionshocktypos on variable names are largely irrelevant, as long as that typo remains consistent... b/c FFS running down typos when u fixed it is a pain.
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11:51.50Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r241 namescanner.lua:
11:51.53RepoAdd in live quest scanner, so i don't have to walk around with a macro and figet with copy paste wowhead lookup for every new daily quest i want to add.
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11:57.31bluspacecow"NOTICE AUTH *** No identd (auth) response"
11:57.34bluspacecowwot ?
11:57.51hasteyou can saefly ignore it
11:58.32bluspacecowoh wait
11:58.34bluspacecowVERSION Colloquy 2.2.1 (4132) - Mac OS X 10.5.7 (PowerPC) - http://colloquy.info
11:58.41bluspacecowoh ignore me
11:58.44bluspacecowim confused
11:58.56Kalrothblames haste.
11:59.13bluspacecowkk ill ignore it then haste
11:59.23bluspacecowmessage just come to say what my host name was
12:00.08bluspacecowi am silly
12:01.14bluspacecowbrb food
12:04.50orionshockis there a way with SVN keywords to get the highest revision of the repo?
12:04.51orionshocknot just the file
12:05.21vhaarrno
12:06.44Brunershttp://pastey.net/116832 why am i getting nil error on 'i' on line 68, when the print on 67 gives the correct value ?
12:07.34EthanCentauraiyou want [i] not .i. in tables
12:08.56EthanCentauraiBruners: http://pastey.net/116834
12:10.11Brunersaha
12:11.43Brunersi tried with db.[i].value but that didnt work either:)
12:12.13EthanCentauraiyeah, one period too many... you want db[i].value
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12:16.18FiskerBruners
12:16.23BrunersFisker
12:16.26Fiskeryou give me sc2 beta or you got to hell and you die
12:16.59Brunershttp://www.starcraft2.com/beta-faq.xml
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12:17.37Fiskerfaq you
12:17.39BrunersEthanCentaurai: why is it making buttons for minimapicon and db ? :S
12:24.21Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r242 / (5 files in 1 directory): redo versioning scheme to use repo substitution
12:24.25Reporemove another uncontroled debug line
12:25.56EthanCentauraireplace the "or" with an "and"
12:26.28EthanCentauraii.e. elseif i ~= "minimapicon" and i ~= "db" then
12:28.54Brunersthat worked
12:28.58Brunersbut why
12:29.37Brunersbecause or states that i needed to be minimapicon and db at the same time?
12:29.53EthanCentauraino
12:30.00bluspacecowmorning torhal
12:30.06Brunersmorning Torhal
12:30.15EthanCentauraiwhen i == "minimapicon", then it ~= "db" so it passes
12:30.38EthanCentauraiat least, that's how I see it :P
12:31.47EthanCentauraiI don't know how to explain it in a better way :/
12:32.42Brunerswas good enough :)
12:33.12Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r157 core.lua: correct format error
12:40.11Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2126 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: Added new mounts and pets
12:40.40TorhalErm, morning.
12:40.49bluspacecow....
12:40.53Torhal:D
12:40.59bluspacecowhe needs coffee
12:41.08TorhalI am in the process of drinking some.
12:41.20bluspacecowhands Torhal a cup
12:42.19WobNetlooks like blu wants some too
12:45.52Groktarpounces WobNet
12:46.27bluspacecowpounces Groktar
12:50.43Fiskerdies Groktar
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13:01.29Torhalsells Fisker for $1.50 in order to have breakfast money.
13:07.52Fiskerkills Torhal|Away
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13:22.16hasteyou can buy breakfast for just 1.5USD?
13:23.06Brunersdepends what you consider as breakfast
13:32.43Fiskercardboard is nice
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13:57.10Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r184 dbgen.rb.txt:
13:57.13RepoUpdate to script to work around instance names with : in them
13:59.30Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r185 / (2 files in 1 directory): GatherMate_Data: Weekly update
13:59.30Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.51 * r186 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update
14:00.37orionshockimo, nerf resto druids
14:00.40orionshockcan't kill them in pvp
14:00.46orionshock<PROTECTED>
14:01.30Groktarhard to kill any druid 1v1
14:01.49Groktarooc for an instant and fly away :(
14:03.34Groktarhttp://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/93726?from=hrly_topnav_undeclared 110f :(
14:03.59Fiskerslaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout
14:05.36Lukiandoes CG helmncloak still work?
14:06.18Groktarsends his weather to Fisker
14:06.46Fiskerslaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout
14:07.14bluspacecowcan shamans wear plate ?
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14:07.55WobNetis that a serious question?
14:08.08bluspacecowyeah
14:08.15bluspacecowi havent played my shaman in aaaaaaaaaaaaages
14:08.18WobNetno
14:16.06Lukianany addons to improve the shaman actiobar yet or support the new calls?
14:16.11Lukiantotembar*
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14:37.03Groktarpounces [Ammo]
14:40.51OrphisDoes anyone know if we can make Xperl to show the vehicule life instead of the player life ?
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14:56.17Speeddymonckknight you mind fixing the mobinfo2 stuff from yesterday when you aren't busy?
14:57.42MikkOrphis: Grid :P
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14:57.56bluspacecowhi Xiny
14:58.24Xinhuanhi
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15:03.27Mikk"10-player (normal), 25-player (normal), 10-player (Heroic) and 25-player (Heroic) all share separate raid lockout timers."
15:03.30Mikkshare... separate?
15:03.59Xinhuanit means they share the same resetting timer
15:04.07Xinhuanlike all 4 reset on tuesday maintenance
15:05.13Stanzillawednesday you non-euro!
15:05.15StanzillaxD
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15:09.27BrunersXinhuan: would it be to much to add to the postal text what you payed for an item on the auction house?
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15:17.18FiskerMikk the guy who wrote those notes are a diabolical geniues
15:17.22Fiskergenius*
15:22.31MikkXinhuan: Wishlist: mail log! and tracking mail expiry timers on your toons! and knowing that when you send something to an alt it'll arrive in their inbox!
15:22.38Mikkcheers!
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15:52.21Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1026 / (8 files in 2 directories):
15:52.25Repo- Cleared up the manually selectable buffs/debuffs option tables a bit by adding a few categories and removing some buffs/debuffs that aren't that interesting to manually include
15:55.22XinhuanMikk, can't do those without abandoning LoD
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16:02.55Groktarhttp://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article1014018.ece
16:03.00GroktarOH NO!
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16:13.08LukianI don't see the multicastbar in bartender :>
16:16.49EthanCentauraiBartender only makes it movable atm
16:16.58Lukianyeah but I don't see it at all
16:17.19Lukianoh sec
16:18.16Lukian-10 has no alpha/beta version :/
16:18.31Lukianseems i'm using -8
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16:51.33Repo- fixed minor errors preventing basic operation of rewritten code
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16:55.21LukianWTB Darkmoon Card: Death on US PTR pve.
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18:49.52Repo10broker-recount-statistics: 03Tristanian * r16 / (5 files in 2 directories):
18:49.55Repo- Added a feature to optionally display personal ranking on the plugin text. Note that this feature will put more strain on CPU and memory usage than usual.
18:49.58Repo- Localization updates.
18:51.28Repo10broker-recount-statistics: 03Tristanian 04v1.3 * r17 : Tagging as v1.3
18:52.04Speeddymonackis: when you get ahold of him, ask him to fix my mobinfo addon slugs plz .. im going to go try to get into Transformers 2...
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19:25.54Repowhen creating message settings for a new event, that event will no longer be removed from the Create New interface.
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20:02.40psychogearsHi.
20:03.05Groktargently pats psychogears
20:03.14psychogearsThis is kinda a dumb question but I can't seem to find the core Ace libs
20:03.51Groktarhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/ace3.aspx
20:03.56Groktardidn't look very hard ;)
20:03.58psychogearsAnd I've been leafing through the site for about an hour and searching google for the "Download Ace Lib version X" link and can't seem to figure out where it is.
20:04.08psychogearsIs that's what it's called? Just Ace 3?
20:04.12Groktarya
20:04.17Groktaror ace2
20:04.22Groktarbut ace2 is oldddddd
20:04.26psychogearsOh man I found that like within 10 mins but I thought that was something else.
20:04.33Groktarnope
20:04.39psychogearsI was looking for LibAce-3.0 or something
20:04.42psychogearsok thanks.
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21:54.58Repo10yssdrop: 03yssaril 07master * v1.6.0-1-g3a24536 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] tooltip will now close when you press ESC thanks Harpz for the great idea
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21:59.28Yssarilckknight: packager still seams to have problems when you push and then push --tags right after one another it will make the alpha version but not your tag (git) http://www.wowace.com/projects/yssdrop/
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22:05.43Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r257 / (3 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus:
22:05.46Repo- Fixed Repentance and Hex breakage being blamed on the CCers.
22:05.49Repo- Fixed problem with sometimes Fish Feast or Refreshment Table announcements would be announced twice in some rare situations.
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22:21.51vhaarrBibi: ffs gief some news
22:21.58vhaarrI'm getting bored of refreshing mmochamp!
22:27.47Repo10yssdrop: 03yssaril 04v1.7.1 * f608eb3 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.7.1
22:30.00CamciFUCK SO HOT
22:30.02Camcijesus christ
22:35.20orionshockanyone figured out a way to make cart3 display where the horde / alliance air ships are in icecrown?
22:37.01Repo10little-wigs-tbc: 03ulic * r9 Coilfang/Ahune.lua: Added Luma Skymother as a target to enable the module
22:41.30Repo10yssdrop: 03yssaril 07refs/remotes/origin/HEAD * v1.7.0 / (4 files in 1 directory): [new] tooltip will now close when you press ESC thanks Harpz for the great idea
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22:41.47Gnarfozurgh
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22:55.22Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r243 / (2 files in 1 directory):
22:55.25Reporemove some more debug. Sinch down the logic on the RRQ module and it's frame..
22:55.28Repo~lart Ackis
22:55.28purlreadies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Ackis
22:59.23thulhm, how/why can a hunter burn me down in three seconds when i got both evasion AND clos up?
22:59.26thulbah!
22:59.51orionshockwas he BM?
23:01.12thulhmm, dunno
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23:05.51thulI'll sto whining, I just did a pvp 9k evisc crit
23:07.42Gnarfozhow do warriors tank Vezax?
23:08.19Gnarfozhaving to kite seems obvious (unless you've got tons of external cooldowns to spare), but our tank seems to have trouble getting away from vezax fast enough
23:08.35Gnarfozis intervening (a pet, maybe) usual?
23:11.10HjalteGnarfoz: It's easy, even as a warrior. You just need to make sure you have max distance between you and the boss when you reposition.
23:11.50Gnarfozwhat do you mean by reposition?
23:12.03Gnarfozyou mean, make sure to tank from the border of the hitbox?
23:12.07HjalteYes.
23:12.17HjalteYou can stand really far away.
23:12.21Hjalteand still hit him.
23:12.31Gnarfozwell, I can't stand *that* far away as melee
23:12.50HjalteWe have no issues with our warrior tank, and I do it fine as druid tank as well.
23:12.52Gnarfozbut if those 3y make the difference, I'll suggest it to him
23:13.01Gnarfozour druid tank simply dies ;\
23:13.15Gnarfoznah, wait, I'm mixing things
23:13.20HjalteAs druid tank, you can even switch into cat and run away.
23:13.29Gnarfozwe tried to have him tank through the kite phases
23:13.47Gnarfozthat didn't work too well ;>
23:14.07Gnarfoz(we used a dps DK as the tank and killed it, lol. nerf dks)
23:14.27HjalteKiting is pretty easy. Just make sure he gets to the max of the hitbox, which is easiest to do when Vezax is casting.
23:20.38thulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpStoROu0XE
23:25.03vhaarrGnarfoz: also remember holy priests can throw on a shield with speed boost at the surge, and you can use a intervene target
23:25.11vhaarralthough simply running away from it is quite simple
23:25.22Gnarfozyeah, we were out of time, so we didn't try more things
23:25.36Gnarfozbut in two tries, vezax still nailed him
23:25.42Gnarfoz(with just running away)
23:25.56Gnarfozprobably wasn't in the optimal starting position like Hjalte suggested
23:26.04vhaarrhe needs to l2p then but seriously
23:26.18Gnarfoznah
23:26.23Gnarfozhe just has never tanked him ;p
23:26.23vhaarrhe can tank through the surges with shield wall and last stand glyphed
23:26.27HjalteEveryone can make it away, granted they have a decent connection.
23:26.39vhaarrGnarfoz: so you're saying running is a new concept then
23:26.43Gnarfozshield wall is obvious, but last stand doesn't reduce damage at all
23:26.48Gnarfozvhaarr: ?
23:26.53vhaarrcombined with 2 trinkets popped it's fine
23:27.02vhaarrand a healer cooldown or two
23:27.04Gnarfozif you have two trinkets, yes
23:27.25vhaarrholy priest with a glyphed guardian spirit can throw it on every surge
23:27.28Gnarfoz(we basically had to replace all of our tanks, recently :P)
23:27.42Gnarfozwell
23:27.47Gnarfozsuboptimal, but still true ;)
23:28.00vhaarrcombined wtih shield wall on one surge, and last stand + trinkets on 2nd
23:28.02vhaarrit's plenty
23:29.29vhaarrhow do you think hard mode is done :P
23:29.29GnarfozDKs.
23:29.29vhaarrnah
23:29.29Gnarfoz:P
23:29.29GnarfozDKs are the solution to everything until 3.2 ;p
23:29.29vhaarrwe've done it with both a warrior and paladin
23:29.29GnarfozI know it's doable of course, just poking fun at how ridiculously OP DKs are ;)
23:29.30vhaarrI agree but it's still easy to survive every surge
23:29.30vhaarrtanking
23:29.30Gnarfozdoes PS stack with Divine Sacrifice? probably not, right? :D
23:29.34vhaarrPS has 2.4min CD
23:29.36vhaarryou can't rely on it
23:29.57GnarfozDS has 5min cd, so meh.
23:30.23Gnarfoz(don't suggest DSac without DShield, it will simply kill you ^^)
23:30.24vhaarrno, it has 2
23:30.37vhaarr2min, that is
23:30.38Gnarfoz(or just vanish, because of the hp limit
23:30.50Gnarfozit's not good enough without Divine Shield, simply put :\
23:32.00vhaarrI think it stacks
23:32.18GnarfozDS + PS?
23:32.23vhaarryes
23:32.41vhaarrbut I don't see why that matters
23:32.44Gnarfozhm, still, adding it on top of last stand + trinkets is probably better
23:32.55vhaarryou need a CD every 2min
23:33.01Gnarfozevery min, you mean
23:33.04vhaarrno
23:33.07Gnarfoz?
23:33.09vhaarrthe tank can shield wall every 2nd one
23:33.11Gnarfozshield wall is a CD, is
23:33.15Gnarfozok, external ones, yeah
23:34.02Gnarfozadding DSac or PS, or HoS on top of Last Stand+Trinkets sounds more reliable
23:34.14vhaarrmore reliable than what
23:34.20vhaarrthat's exactly what I've been suggesting
23:35.54Gnarfozthan what I had in mind, otherwise I wouldn't have asked anything ;)
23:36.50Gnarfoz(it's just that last stand doesn't reduce damage, so I had discounted it as "probably not viable". need to check with him what "on use" trinket he has)
23:37.18vhaarrof course it's viable, it significantly increases his hitpoints :p
23:37.34vhaarrso even if he takes 1 full unmigitated hit, he still won't die and can be healed up again
23:38.09GnarfozI'm mentally comparing it to the DK scenario, where that never happens, hehe
23:38.22vhaarrthere's your problem, you think too much
23:38.26Gnarfozobvious.
23:38.32vhaarrif you just listened to what I said instead, this discussion would be over 10 minutes ago
23:38.36vhaarrI'm done, sleepytime
23:39.08Gnarfozbut then, I don't go around asking "hey play this boss for me, because I don't want to think so much" ;)
23:39.20Gnarfozthrowing out bad ideas is part of the process^^
23:39.35Gnarfozsweet dreams :)
23:39.37vhaarrno it isn't, not when the solution is given to you on a platter, then there is no process
23:39.46vhaarrthe process is useless and timewasting
23:40.46Gnarfozno, because I also need to know why shit we thought up is worse, not simply "this is the ultimate solution because I said so".
23:40.59Gnarfozif you think that's stupid, then I digress ;)
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