| 00:05.28 | SunTsu | ckknight: Any idea why the files.rss don't work anymore? |
| 00:05.45 | ckknight | yea, I have ideas |
| 00:05.49 | ckknight | I'll fix it when I get time |
| 00:06.02 | ckknight | but I'm on a deadline to adhere to for something else |
| 00:07.09 | sylvanaar | sex on wheels |
| 00:07.36 | SunTsu | ckknight: OK, good to hear, though it'll probably not bother me if you fix it after saturday ;) |
| 00:07.51 | ckknight | yea, it'll be at least Monday |
| 00:08.09 | SunTsu | OK, by then I don't updated anymore *g* I quit WoW on saturday |
| 00:08.28 | ckknight | lulz |
| 00:08.31 | ckknight | how come? |
| 00:10.02 | SunTsu | Lots of other things to do in my life lately, much less time than I had before and the wish to do something else than gaming |
| 00:10.08 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 00:10.45 | SunTsu | though I'll probably keep on hanging around here for some time |
| 00:16.14 | sylvanaar | Intel also guarantees that if the X25-E performs 7000 8KB random access per second, consisting of 66% reads and 33% writes, the drive will continue to do so for 5 years! That is 2.9TB of written data per day, and it can sustain this for about 1800 days |
| 00:17.00 | sylvanaar | SunTsu are you emoquitting? |
| 00:17.19 | Megalon | hm, so you can watch 5.8tb of pron per day |
| 00:17.25 | Megalon | and replace half of it every day |
| 00:17.28 | sylvanaar | no, thats arrowmaster |
| 00:17.58 | sylvanaar | the drive is 32GB |
| 00:18.32 | sylvanaar | even fastforwarding.... |
| 00:19.29 | Ackis | [18:11:17][Ackis] has earned the achievement [Mountain o' Mounts]! |
| 00:20.05 | Funkeh` | finally |
| 00:20.11 | Funkeh` | finished midsummer |
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| 00:20.45 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/unconversablegnome/. UnconversableGnome. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 00:21.02 | Cahan | Colonel Mustard killed Jacko in the Drawing Room with the Hammer |
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| 00:24.15 | Megalon | ;8 |
| 00:24.21 | Megalon | ;/ |
| 00:26.30 | Adys | anyone with IE7/IE8 ? |
| 00:26.40 | Adys | have a look at http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=67992.0 please |
| 00:27.06 | Cahan | ok |
| 00:27.59 | Cahan | works in IE8 |
| 00:28.13 | Cahan | at least I think it;s 8 |
| 00:28.17 | Cahan | maybe 7 until I reboot |
| 00:28.20 | Cahan | updates today |
| 00:36.11 | ilovemrdoe | msg nickserv identify meat4444 |
| 00:36.16 | ilovemrdoe | oh lol |
| 00:36.30 | durcyn | i'd ghost you if i was bored enough |
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| 01:15.20 | Xtek | Cahan I'm running IE8 and I just see Retreiving Tooltip... |
| 01:19.23 | harl | hm. just had that "summon" bug again after being in the outlands but without being summoned or similar. |
| 01:19.48 | harl | had to jump down off dalaran and die to get rid of it |
| 01:20.14 | harl | same as before and i still don't have a clue what had been the cause |
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| 01:42.07 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r229 / (9 files in 4 directories): |
| 01:42.10 | Repo | added project development files which are not intended for release packages for end users |
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| 01:46.36 | NivFreak | harl: summon bug? |
| 01:48.01 | harl | i dunno, durcyn called it that way. it's causing my druid to stand up every few seconds so that i can't get him to sit still. |
| 01:48.35 | harl | and as of yet nothing else than dying has helped to drop it |
| 01:49.00 | NivFreak | I wish vigilence still stood people up when I cast it |
| 01:49.03 | NivFreak | that was so much fun |
| 01:49.16 | harl | i guess that's because dying cancels anything like summoning or whatknot |
| 01:49.58 | harl | though, so should logging out, but it doesn't |
| 01:51.43 | durcyn | it's something to do with zone changes, maybe not summon specifically |
| 01:51.51 | durcyn | only ever happened for us when the person was summoned |
| 01:52.08 | harl | i've changed zone multiple times using different methods and it didn't help |
| 01:52.35 | harl | hearth stone, flying, zeppelin, summoning via summoning stone |
| 01:53.00 | harl | joined a group, entered an instance |
| 01:53.10 | harl | what else |
| 01:54.41 | harl | ah yeah, i took off my equipment before logging off |
| 01:54.56 | harl | had no clue what drove it, so anything was worth a try |
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| 01:56.41 | harl | they only "real" bug i've had before that was the one where my character wouldn't stop looting and then couldn't loot another corpse, but restarting wow usually solved that. |
| 01:56.52 | Groktar | wiping on normal mode freya gg |
| 01:57.19 | harl | any other "bugs" i experienced yet were add-on or settings/drivers related |
| 01:58.28 | harl | or lesser crappy gameplay/scenery scripting |
| 01:58.51 | harl | usual stuff with a game etc |
| 02:03.48 | miica | give addon which filters every line which includes mj, michael or jackson |
| 02:04.07 | miica | and pedobear |
| 02:13.49 | harl | i'm glad the people of the realm i mainly play on seem to have generally ignored all the jackson shivaree |
| 02:13.54 | harl | yet. |
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| 02:25.36 | Gain | anyone here know a good addon for changing fonts...clearfont2 is discontinued on wowinterface |
| 02:26.28 | Aeyan | I use tekticles |
| 02:26.36 | Aeyan | Fontain is the much more powerful solution though |
| 02:26.46 | Aeyan | If you want total control |
| 02:26.48 | Gain | thank you |
| 02:27.07 | Gain | also is there a good place to download textures for kgpanels |
| 02:27.11 | Gain | looking for some decent ones :) |
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| 02:30.26 | Aeyan | Nah, there's a serious lack of border and texture options. |
| 02:30.28 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 02:30.30 | Aeyan | Sorry |
| 02:31.08 | Aeyan | You can pull them out of compilations sometimes |
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| 02:42.21 | Obelixprime1 | Ok, performance question, I just bought a gtx 260, and I'm running on an X2 6000+ with 4gb on Microsoft Windows Server 2008. |
| 02:42.33 | Obelixprime1 | When I "installed" wow, I just copied my WoW folder from my old XP machine |
| 02:43.55 | Obelixprime1 | I'm getting ~15 fps while fighting |
| 02:44.03 | Obelixprime1 | something wrong? |
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| 03:02.39 | Aens|Superiority | Obelixprime1: vsync most likely is turned on. |
| 03:08.18 | Obelixprime1 | its off |
| 03:11.01 | Archarodim | are your drivers up to date? |
| 03:18.06 | durcyn | "a commit message" |
| 03:18.11 | durcyn | where do we find these fucking people |
| 03:19.28 | Stanzilla | a message! |
| 03:22.59 | quiescens | how could it possibly have been vsync |
| 03:24.09 | quiescens | it would probably be prudent to see what frame rate you get without addons firstly |
| 03:24.48 | Torhal | durcyn: At least it was on CurseForge and not here. |
| 03:27.51 | Megalon | do you have your gtx260 in the upper slot (closer to cpu)? assuming you have a board with 2 slots |
| 03:27.53 | Megalon | if not, some boards require you to activate sli-mode so both slots are run at 8x/16x |
| 03:30.52 | quiescens | I very much doubt bus bandwidth is the limiting factor even if it was running at x1 |
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| 03:59.27 | Repo | cc15587: Moved list and right_pane initialization out of OpenListPanel and into file scope, parented them to the panel, and re-worked anchoring. |
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| 06:17.15 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: ping |
| 06:22.07 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 06:22.08 | Shefki | Whatever came of Nadina's font licensing thing? |
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| 06:22.08 | Shefki | Seems that SharedMedia still has all that stuff in there. |
| 06:22.08 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
| 06:22.08 | Arrowmaster | unless Elkano never tagged it |
| 06:23.24 | Shefki | Hmm seems that some are still there. |
| 06:23.33 | Shefki | Emblem certainly is in my current install. |
| 06:24.45 | Shefki | And yeah it was never tagged. |
| 06:26.09 | Antiarc | Things I did tonight: Firefighter. |
| 06:26.16 | Antiarc | Things I am never doing again if I can help it: Firefighter. |
| 06:26.17 | Shefki | 25? |
| 06:26.20 | Antiarc | 10 |
| 06:26.28 | Antiarc | Ugh, I don't even want to think about it 25 |
| 06:26.29 | Shefki | Ahh 10 is fun and easy now. |
| 06:26.29 | End | hehe |
| 06:26.34 | Shefki | We two healed it tonight. |
| 06:26.36 | Antiarc | A lot easier than it was, yeah |
| 06:26.49 | Antiarc | It's still a bitch of a fight. |
| 06:27.15 | Shefki | We're close to Alone in the Dark on 10. |
| 06:27.27 | Shefki | Would have had it tonight if our tank wasn't tired. |
| 06:27.30 | Antiarc | wow, impressive |
| 06:27.32 | End | there's a guild on my server that did it for the first time, and they did it HOURS before it got nerfed :P |
| 06:27.41 | Antiarc | We were close pre-nerf |
| 06:27.50 | Antiarc | It was mostly the bot silences that were causing problems |
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| 06:28.06 | End | apparently they had a strat that Ensidia even borrowed, but couldn't do it until hours before it got nerfed anyway because they couldn't execute it properly |
| 06:28.11 | Shefki | We did it twice to get Algalon keys for both our 10 man groups pre-nerf. |
| 06:28.17 | Shefki | Otherwise we didn't bother with it. |
| 06:28.33 | Shefki | Basically just took someone from the other group with us one week. |
| 06:28.52 | Shefki | Now I see no reason why any of our groups couldn't do it. |
| 06:29.23 | Shefki | End: What strat was that? The wall strat? |
| 06:29.32 | End | no idea |
| 06:29.51 | End | could be |
| 06:30.06 | Shefki | But at any rate the fight feels retardedly easy if you'd done it pre-nerf now. |
| 06:30.19 | Shefki | It has quite a bit of room for error that it didn't have before. |
| 06:30.20 | End | I've only done it on easy mode |
| 06:30.23 | End | although |
| 06:30.38 | End | this week we lost half the raid because the head tank died and we still killed him |
| 06:30.50 | Shefki | Sucks that we'd already cleared him this week on 25 man. |
| 06:31.03 | Shefki | We'd probably have it on 25 man this week if we hadn't. |
| 06:31.16 | Shefki | But we rushed to Vezax to try and pick him off (which we did) |
| 06:31.23 | Elkano | hmm? |
| 06:31.30 | Shefki | Hard mode Vezax. |
| 06:31.53 | End | I don't like the idea of hard mode vezax |
| 06:32.13 | Shefki | Honestly it's a lot of fun for me but I think for most people it's pretty damn boring. |
| 06:32.26 | Shefki | But I'm a resto druid and the idea of using ClearCasting procs in an intelligent way... |
| 06:32.29 | Shefki | Is really cool. |
| 06:32.46 | End | I play a warlock, and I blow through mana even with shadow crashes |
| 06:32.47 | Shefki | Since usually there's just no way you can use them that way in a normal raid environment. |
| 06:33.01 | Shefki | End: You only dps when in a crash. |
| 06:33.04 | Shefki | Otherwise you just wand. |
| 06:33.07 | End | I should be clear |
| 06:33.28 | End | I only dps in shadow crash, and I use up most of my mana by the time the vapors stop spawning |
| 06:33.30 | Shefki | A lot of people end up respecing for the fight. |
| 06:33.37 | Shefki | They setup their most mana efficient setup. |
| 06:33.40 | End | well |
| 06:33.57 | End | I did the fight previous as affliction |
| 06:33.59 | Antiarc | I play a rogue. My job is "kick every 14 seconds" :P |
| 06:34.07 | End | this week I tried as destro...seems a bit more mana efficient |
| 06:34.11 | Shefki | The fight doesn't really last much longer from when Animus spawns really. |
| 06:34.19 | Shefki | The stacking debuff ensures that. |
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| 06:34.24 | End | I only use about 10% of my mana per crash instead of 15% |
| 06:34.46 | Shefki | Antiarc: If you do it right then I'm sure your raid loves you. |
| 06:34.51 | Shefki | Antiarc: I want to kill some of our melee. |
| 06:34.51 | End | anyway, essentially I can't see myself doing much until the animus spawns |
| 06:34.52 | Antiarc | I do! |
| 06:34.59 | Shefki | They're depressingly bad. |
| 06:34.59 | End | but we've not yet tried hard mode |
| 06:35.01 | Antiarc | I'm a very solid kicker |
| 06:35.05 | Antiarc | But I think a lot of that is arena |
| 06:35.07 | End | and I want to kill our melee too |
| 06:35.17 | Elkano | ups, yeah, you're right with SM... wanted to wait a bit for people to test it (and at least one bug was found, a missing external)... but then I forgot to set it to release... |
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| 06:35.23 | Antiarc | I upgraded Deadened because of that fight |
| 06:35.29 | Antiarc | It can announce when you burn or miss a kick |
| 06:35.40 | Shefki | Elkano: That's coool... Just noticed the tickets were still opened. |
| 06:35.49 | Antiarc | So you can recover from miskicks pretty easily |
| 06:35.51 | Shefki | Antiarc: Are you serious? |
| 06:35.54 | End | ok |
| 06:35.55 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 06:36.00 | End | new mandatory addon for our rogues |
| 06:36.02 | Shefki | Fucking hell. Gotta get our people to use that. |
| 06:36.02 | Elkano | wow, I just passed 10k points... |
| 06:36.07 | Antiarc | It's extremely useful |
| 06:36.15 | Elkano | giev store plx |
| 06:36.16 | End | @project deadened |
| 06:36.17 | Repo | End: http://www.wowace.com/projects/deadened/. Deadened. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 days ago. Tickets: 3/3 |
| 06:36.36 | Antiarc | It'll announce when you interrupt, burn an interrupt on a non-cast (usually because someone got there before you), or if you miss an interrupt (immune, block, dodge, etc) |
| 06:36.38 | Elkano | ~lart tekkub |
| 06:36.38 | purl | lowers tekkub's priority |
| 06:37.01 | tekkub | wut |
| 06:37.05 | Antiarc | It made Vezax noticably easier for us |
| 06:37.25 | Antiarc | We went from a miskick resulting in a wipe to a miskick resulting in a minor moment of panic and then adjustment |
| 06:37.33 | Elkano | don't you think you should at least leave me some credit for LDB? :/ |
| 06:37.48 | tekkub | I thought about it :) |
| 06:37.55 | tekkub | but then I'm shit for names |
| 06:38.05 | tekkub | I never remember who did what |
| 06:38.37 | Shefki | Antiarc: You on a US realm? |
| 06:38.41 | Antiarc | Cenarion Circle |
| 06:38.47 | Elkano | iirc, 1.1 is basicly my 1.0 with an additional callback and some reordering |
| 06:38.51 | tekkub | seriously though, I remember specifically NOT implementing it the way eh's doing it BECAUSE of those extra tables |
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| 06:39.11 | tekkub | I had thought about it |
| 06:39.28 | Elkano | well, haven't seen his code since the dl was taken down |
| 06:39.38 | tekkub | oh it was? |
| 06:39.44 | tekkub | by him or wowi staff? |
| 06:40.35 | tekkub | you know what's sad? I associate your avatar with the code, but not your name :) |
| 06:40.44 | End | haha |
| 06:40.56 | End | although |
| 06:40.59 | End | I shouldn't laugh |
| 06:41.02 | End | I do that all the time on forums |
| 06:41.08 | End | tekkub is the bacon man |
| 06:42.03 | tekkub | I see the ninja moose holding his 5ft wang over his shoulder and I think "oh yea he worked on LDB" |
| 06:42.23 | tekkub | I see "Elkano" and I think "uh, I know him from wow addons I think... |
| 06:43.11 | Elkano | my avatar is a midified Heshthot deamon from "The Dark Eye" |
| 06:43.26 | End | the antlers are the modification? |
| 06:43.39 | tekkub | sure it is, looks like a ninja moose with a huge wang to me |
| 06:43.50 | End | lol |
| 06:43.59 | tekkub | also, holy crap LDB is over a year old |
| 06:44.03 | tekkub | god, how time flies |
| 06:44.26 | End | I still don't have my slurpee |
| 06:44.37 | tekkub | I mailed it |
| 06:44.45 | Elkano | yeah, my baby has grown strong against the FuBar bastard ^^ |
| 06:44.57 | tekkub | FuBastard |
| 06:45.14 | End | it definitely helps how trivial it is to write an LDB plugin |
| 06:45.40 | Elkano | well, the reason is that LDB is dumb and the displays do the work |
| 06:45.46 | End | yeah |
| 06:45.54 | End | I think it's a good design though |
| 06:45.57 | End | obviously |
| 06:46.17 | End | since it lets you have unusual displays if you wanted |
| 06:46.27 | tekkub | LDB powers cork :) |
| 06:47.12 | Elkano | well, I had the idea for some time and when someone wanted a FBP based on Ace3 I was urged to stop anyone else from thinking about really coding that... |
| 06:47.13 | tekkub | made it so much easier to work with too |
| 06:47.21 | tekkub | have a need, write it in the DO |
| 06:47.29 | tekkub | DO gets written? update the tooltip |
| 06:48.23 | Torhal | I'm so temped to write my own display since DockingStation has begun pissing me off with its "compliance" elitism and the fact that it INSISTS on handling all tooltips. |
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| 06:49.06 | End | the complaince bit doesn't bother me too much if I know what you're talking about |
| 06:49.08 | Elkano | well, being somewhat open speced is the only minor problem with LDB |
| 06:49.25 | tekkub | "compliance"? |
| 06:49.26 | End | although it still didn't help me figure out why someone else's DO wasn't working |
| 06:49.29 | mitch0 | torhal: Fortress works for me so far |
| 06:49.31 | Torhal | End: It blasts you with warnings when "non-compliant" plugins are loaded. |
| 06:49.33 | End | turns out there was no .type field |
| 06:49.36 | tekkub | what is it rejecting OnEnter/OnLeave? |
| 06:49.41 | End | ok, yeah, we're thinking the same thing |
| 06:49.44 | Elkano | (and the fact that so many people named their stuff Broker_; that doesn't match my translation of the term :/ ) |
| 06:50.03 | Torhal | mitch0: Yah, but that has its own issues for me. I don't like everything turned on by default, and I like the left/center/right sectional bar paradigm. |
| 06:50.07 | tekkub | I'm renaming my plugins |
| 06:50.12 | tekkub | Broken_Friends |
| 06:50.15 | tekkub | Broken_Guild |
| 06:50.20 | tekkub | Broken_DPS |
| 06:50.20 | End | lol |
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| 06:50.49 | End | ChocolateBar looked like it was supposed to be the same sort of thing..NinjaBar too |
| 06:50.51 | Elkano | reminds me I should finish ElkFriends/ElkGuild/ElkFactions |
| 06:50.52 | Torhal | tekkub: Yah. LibQTip has an auto-hide mechanism. DockingStation completely ignores it and hides the tooltip when the mouse leaves focus |
| 06:50.54 | End | but I've tried neither of them out |
| 06:51.24 | tekkub | Torhal: ha ha! |
| 06:51.33 | tekkub | that'll lern you to want clicky tips |
| 06:51.36 | Elkano | well, I use Fortress though I should get something for the icon-only plugins |
| 06:51.44 | Torhal | :P |
| 06:51.46 | End | huh |
| 06:51.54 | tekkub | MakeRocketGoNow |
| 06:52.02 | mitch0 | elkano: I use fortress for the icon-only ones, too. what's your beef with that? |
| 06:52.07 | Torhal | Or YssDrop. |
| 06:52.25 | End | MRGN works fine for me in DockingStation |
| 06:52.29 | Elkano | well, I've got too many of them ^^ |
| 06:52.42 | End | as does..uh..ara broker professions or whatever I use for clicky profession goodness |
| 06:52.48 | End | I think that's what it is called |
| 06:53.43 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r230 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: |
| 06:53.46 | Repo | removed instructions "If the list is too large, you can type "/console reloadui" to reset it." because this is no longer true |
| 06:54.02 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r231 SpeakinSpell.toc: update to version 3.1.3.03 |
| 06:54.52 | End | huh |
| 06:54.58 | End | no, it wasn't called NinjaBar |
| 06:55.01 | End | it was something else |
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| 06:55.32 | End | oh |
| 06:55.34 | End | NinjaPanel |
| 06:55.45 | Antiarc | DockingStation is my preference |
| 06:55.46 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r232 SpeakinSpell.lua: |
| 06:55.49 | Repo | - added first pass at new event type filters in the options GUI |
| 06:55.50 | End | I use DockingStation too |
| 06:55.52 | Repo | - fixed a bug in the saved data where event types were not listed properly to support the new event type filters |
| 06:55.54 | Repo | - incremented version number to apply saved data fix |
| 06:55.57 | End | Torhal is having issues with it I guess |
| 06:55.57 | Fisker | haha |
| 06:55.59 | Fisker | what bullshit is this |
| 06:56.10 | Fisker | Get your Pet code |
| 06:56.10 | Fisker | You will receive the Grunty the |
| 06:56.10 | Fisker | Murloc Marine pet code and |
| 06:56.10 | Fisker | redemption instructions via email |
| 06:56.10 | Fisker | 6-8 weeks after the event |
| 06:56.11 | Fisker | xD |
| 06:56.25 | End | meh? |
| 06:56.32 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r233 changelog.txt: high level changes for 3.1.303: |
| 06:56.35 | Repo | - adds new event type filters to the options interface |
| 06:56.38 | Repo | - fixes a bug in the saved data |
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| 07:00.28 | Torhal | Eh, more like philosophical differences. I like it overall. |
| 07:01.40 | Torhal | So, yah. Sleep. |
| 07:02.25 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta1-3-g03cfc9f Modules/DogTagTexts/DogTagTexts.lua: [+1 commit] Have to force DogTagTexts to update if the unit on a frame changes (e.g. |
| 07:08.48 | Elkano | Shefki, is it possible that pb4's range module is broken? |
| 07:09.38 | Shefki | Elkano: It's possible your class doesn't have properly setup spell info. |
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| 07:10.25 | Elkano | well, maybe I just misunderstood how it's supposed to work ^^ |
| 07:10.33 | Elkano | I thought it would work the same as Grid's |
| 07:10.43 | Shefki | How do you think it's supposed to work? |
| 07:11.16 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r234 SpeakinSpell.lua: |
| 07:11.19 | Repo | fixed the root cause of the missing event type information in the saved data |
| 07:13.16 | Elkano | good question, hard to discribe ^^' maybe I should check how it is intended to work |
| 07:13.39 | Shefki | Well what's it doing that you think is wrong? |
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| 07:15.56 | Elkano | well, it seemed to do nothing at all |
| 07:16.09 | Shefki | Elkano: What class? |
| 07:16.13 | Elkano | druid |
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| 07:16.42 | Shefki | works fine here I'm a druid. :) |
| 07:16.45 | Elkano | was in a group being in Kalimdor myself, the others being in Northend and they weren't faded |
| 07:17.17 | Shefki | You sure the range fader is turned on in the layout attached to your party frames? |
| 07:18.13 | Shefki | And what's your min opacity set to on the fader tab of the layout? |
| 07:18.36 | Elkano | well, maybe that's the problem, I'll check |
| 07:19.24 | Elkano | ok, that WAS the problem ^^ |
| 07:19.33 | Elkano | it isn't active by default |
| 07:19.35 | End | lol |
| 07:20.19 | Shefki | Elkano: Yeah I think that's intentional... |
| 07:20.31 | End | I think its funny. :P |
| 07:20.31 | Shefki | Elkano: We used to get a ton of bug reports about "My frames are all faded out." |
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| 07:22.09 | Shefki | Elkano: Just recently switching? |
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| 07:22.39 | Elkano | yeah |
| 07:22.52 | Elkano | used to use aguf |
| 07:23.33 | Shefki | Why the move to PB4? (just curious) |
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| 07:28.28 | Caleb| | any of you US homeboys around? |
| 07:28.58 | Shefki | What's up? |
| 07:29.03 | End | I don't know if I'm your homeboy |
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| 07:29.31 | Gnarfoz | can you have intercontinental "home" boys? |
| 07:29.41 | End | maybe |
| 07:29.54 | Caleb| | yeah well what do you guys know about Yogg 0 watcher being nerfed in the US? |
| 07:30.14 | Gnarfoz | they didn't... did they? |
| 07:30.17 | Shefki | No. |
| 07:30.17 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r235 SpeakinSpell.lua: |
| 07:30.20 | Repo | automatically select the matching category option under message settings when creating a new event |
| 07:30.22 | Caleb| | I don't know |
| 07:30.22 | Shefki | It wasn't nerfed. |
| 07:30.27 | Shefki | We worked on it tonight. |
| 07:30.28 | Caleb| | thats why I'm asking |
| 07:30.56 | Caleb| | so marks are still 3-4/5-4/5? |
| 07:31.13 | Adirelle|work | I'm wondering if the enGB PTR patch will work with frFR client |
| 07:31.24 | Adirelle|work | as most EU clients are reguarly the same |
| 07:31.37 | Shefki | Caleb|: If they changed anything I didn't notice it and I'm pretty sure I would have. |
| 07:32.05 | Adirelle|work | s/reguarly/regularly/ |
| 07:32.09 | Shefki | If you're asking if multiple guys can still get the healing buff thingy then it is still that way. |
| 07:32.14 | Caleb| | yeah we did it yesterday too, and seamt like the same, but now you can see Exodus killed it, so just made us wondering considering yesterdays stealth Mimiron nerf |
| 07:32.27 | Shefki | It wasn't stealth. |
| 07:32.32 | Shefki | There was a blue post on it. |
| 07:32.42 | Caleb| | yeah like 8 hours after the nerf went live |
| 07:32.43 | Gnarfoz | afterwards, yes |
| 07:32.46 | Caleb| | I'd call that stealth |
| 07:32.52 | Gnarfoz | "uh oh someone noticed" |
| 07:32.53 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 07:36.04 | Caleb| | around what time did you try him/her/it Shefki? |
| 07:36.05 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r236 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 07:36.08 | Repo | localized the text labeling the new event type category filter controls. Korean and German translations are still pending. |
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| 07:40.13 | Elkano | Shefki, aguf did bug when I joined party while infight and such |
| 07:41.02 | Elkano | used to use PB before it went Rock/DogTag |
| 07:42.44 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r237 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: |
| 07:42.48 | Repo | clarified the text for the category "spells and abilities" to include items (when you manually activate them - automatic procs are considered buffs that you receive from yourself or someone/something else) |
| 07:42.52 | sb|work | @describe speakinspell |
| 07:42.53 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/projects/speakinspell/. SpeakinSpell. Funny and/or Useful, SpeakinSpell will use random speeches in chat to announce when you use spells and other abilities, as well as items, procced effects, other events, and user-defined macros. Works... |
| 07:43.28 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r238 todo.txt: |
| 07:43.32 | Repo | added todo list to source code control. this will not be included in release packages. |
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| 07:46.18 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r239 todo.txt: updated todo list |
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| 07:48.25 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r240 SpeakinSpell.lua: show localized text on the Create New page |
| 07:51.14 | orionshock | I take it there is no easy way to get the client to resove |4 and remove the escape code eh? |
| 07:53.21 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r241 Locales/Locale-enUS.lua: |
| 07:53.24 | Repo | minor correction to interface options Create New instructions |
| 07:54.09 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta1-4-ga813f16 Modules/LuaTexts/ScriptEnv.lua: [+1 commit] 3.2.0 compatability for LuaTexts. |
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| 07:55.24 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r242 SavedVariables/3.1.3.02 (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 07:55.27 | Repo | adding sample saved data from v3.1.3.02 for future testing purposes. this is not to be distributed by the release packager. |
| 07:58.13 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.1.3.03-release * r243 : Tagged release 3.1.3.03 |
| 08:13.01 | Repo | 10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03Shefki * r198 Categories/Characteristics.lua: 3.2.0 compatability |
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| 08:17.14 | Shefki | Is it just me or is wowcompares completely useless now? |
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| 08:18.21 | End | why? does it not actually have compares anymore or something? |
| 08:18.44 | End | wait, I can't see how to get anything from it |
| 08:18.55 | End | how useless |
| 08:19.55 | End | I thought it at least gave zips of each version, and that it wasn't providing compares to make the name of the site wrong |
| 08:20.06 | End | but it doesn't provide anything but a zip |
| 08:21.04 | Shefki | End: yeah exactly the listings are there but you can't go anywhere there's no links. |
| 08:21.20 | End | lame |
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| 08:22.22 | qkr112kr | hi |
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| 08:22.55 | qkr112kr | hi |
| 08:22.58 | qkr112kr | :) |
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| 08:37.57 | orionshock | Shefki: if u look at the msg on the left it explains all |
| 08:38.58 | Shefki | orionshock: I guess I expected that to mean a few things not working not nothing working. |
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| 08:48.11 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: what do you guys need |
| 08:48.17 | jnwhiteh | I can make it available pretty quickly on wowprogramming |
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| 08:53.03 | Repo | 10libdualspec-1-0: 03Adirelle 07master * v1.0-1-gfaae2b1 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added luadocs. |
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| 09:00.53 | mitch0 | lua> 2975/20 |
| 09:00.53 | lua_bot | mitch0: 148.75 |
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| 09:02.14 | orionshock | Shefki: have u tried tekkub's git repo? |
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| 09:11.21 | Adirelle|work | hrm... firefox takes ages to complete a 1.3gb download... |
| 09:12.10 | Adirelle|work | and installing the PTR at the same time should not help |
| 09:12.25 | Adirelle|work | I think the hd is on the knees |
| 09:14.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah, blizz installers, especially the "split out" ptr installer like abusing hdds :\ |
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| 09:21.35 | EthanCentaurai | good luck getting into the PTR, I've had no luck so far |
| 09:24.41 | Fisker | your mom had no luck |
| 09:25.19 | Shefki | orionshock: I didn't really need anything specific. Just found browsing around the changes on there convenient. |
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| 09:46.08 | orionshock | i got on the PTR no problem |
| 09:48.33 | End | the character copy system is really slow |
| 09:54.59 | Adirelle|work | have they fixed the EU b.net account issue ? |
| 09:55.17 | Fisker | not when i checked an hour ago |
| 09:55.29 | Fisker | and nope |
| 09:58.56 | Fisker | apparently some works, others don't |
| 10:00.59 | Zyndrome | aaaaaaaaaaa, DirecTV available for purchase :< |
| 10:01.34 | Fisker | old Zyndrome |
| 10:01.45 | Zyndrome | yes I am |
| 10:02.11 | sb|work | meh.. i dont want to hear this music every ~20 minutes, f**** radio stations :/ |
| 10:02.21 | Fisker | I think the stream will be fail |
| 10:02.46 | Fisker | as far as i can understand it'll be 16 hours of stream, which will only be live, and will only be a stream for the events they choose |
| 10:03.01 | Fisker | It's not like you can go watch the tournaments if you want, or watch some other event than the one they're showing |
| 10:03.11 | Fisker | or save the stuff to your harddrive for later viewing |
| 10:03.17 | Fisker | which is massive fail |
| 10:03.21 | mitch0 | what's the average price for a stack of frostweave cloth? |
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| 11:04.38 | jnwhiteh | So is this useful to anyone? |
| 11:04.38 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
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| 11:10.49 | Groktar | dies in jnwhiteh's air ducts |
| 11:10.56 | Groktar | emits a foul stench |
| 11:11.37 | jnwhiteh | umm k |
| 11:18.02 | durcyn | Shefki: ping |
| 11:19.53 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser as I mentioned I'd be putting it up |
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| 11:22.42 | orionshock | so has anyone written a more simplified version of RatingBuster ? |
| 11:23.46 | Adirelle|work | orionshock: simplier in which way ? |
| 11:23.59 | orionshock | eh :) |
| 11:24.06 | orionshock | in a not as bloated sort of way :) |
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| 11:24.26 | Adirelle|work | er... trying again: which feature of ratingbuster are you looking for ? ^^ |
| 11:24.43 | Adirelle|work | @describe ratings |
| 11:24.44 | Repo | Adirelle|work: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ratings/. Ratings. Add Rating conversion values to tooltips. This addon will add the ratings value to tooltips in a non intrusive way. For instance, the tooltip line "Improves hit rating by 11." will look like "Improves... |
| 11:24.45 | orionshock | the stat conversions + compre part |
| 11:24.57 | Elkano | orionshock, Blizzard did I think ;) |
| 11:25.15 | Pneumatus | default ui has rudimentary item comparison now |
| 11:25.16 | Adirelle|work | I think there is only the compare part, not sure about the conversion one |
| 11:25.41 | Adirelle|work | WTB fix for EU PTR b.net login |
| 11:25.42 | Pneumatus | but none of the good stuff that RB has, like calculating MP5 from int/spi etc |
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| 11:26.09 | orionshock | Elkano: ya, but we all know it's half ass and basic. What blizzard added was the " OK we'll put the basic foot work in the client so u don't have to download a 12mb datafile for this" feature, we all know it's begging to have a mod by the community to make it 100x better :) |
| 11:26.10 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 11:26.13 | Fisker | i got some footcrust |
| 11:26.14 | Fisker | you want some? |
| 11:27.13 | Groktar | licks |
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| 11:28.41 | vithos | there should be a bayesian trade chat filter addon. just saying. |
| 11:29.04 | Fisker | noooo Groktar |
| 11:29.09 | orionshock | i just like rating busters layout at the bottom of the tooltip. I could almost care less about the inline stat conversion in the bulk of the tooltip. |
| 11:29.21 | Pneumatus | switch it off then? |
| 11:29.43 | jnwhiteh | orionshock: .. |
| 11:30.03 | jnwhiteh | its so basic |
| 11:30.04 | jnwhiteh | <3 |
| 11:30.05 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 11:30.07 | jnwhiteh | sad |
| 11:30.12 | jnwhiteh | i wish they would do it better |
| 11:30.13 | orionshock | what im a picky person.. i wanted to know if anyone has rewritten what blizzard did to have a better layout :\ |
| 11:30.13 | jnwhiteh | btu *shru* |
| 11:30.16 | jnwhiteh | we can do it in an addon |
| 11:30.17 | jnwhiteh | no no |
| 11:30.18 | jnwhiteh | i know |
| 11:30.22 | jnwhiteh | i'm agreeing with you |
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| 11:30.26 | jnwhiteh | my fingers are just twisted this morning :P |
| 11:30.28 | orionshock | oh |
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| 11:30.56 | orionshock | jnwhiteh: morning? where u at, EU? |
| 11:31.10 | jnwhiteh | always, yeah |
| 11:31.13 | jnwhiteh | so its afternoon :P |
| 11:31.29 | orionshock | it's 4am here in Az (MST) |
| 11:32.10 | orionshock | meh, once ptr goes live, i might write that addon myself :) |
| 11:32.49 | Evandiann | i have a question about bigwigs |
| 11:33.09 | orionshock | 42 |
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| 11:34.28 | Evandiann | i have been using bigwigs & littlewigs for a while now, as have some of my guildies. but recently the messages that pop up when a certain boss has been activated no longer shows up on the screen |
| 11:35.30 | EthanCentaurai | they were removed iirc |
| 11:38.30 | Evandiann | ok, that would explain it. any particular reason, if you know? |
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| 12:08.28 | Adirelle|work | hrm... wow.curse.com addon search lists war addons |
| 12:08.45 | Adirelle|work | ~fail curse.com |
| 12:08.47 | Cahan | givin' you a hint ;p |
| 12:09.06 | Adirelle|work | purl: are you with us ? |
| 12:09.48 | orionshock | ~ping |
| 12:09.48 | purl | ~pong |
| 12:11.13 | Gnarfoz | orionshock: |
| 12:11.14 | Gnarfoz | ~ugt |
| 12:11.14 | purl | ugt is, like, Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 12:11.21 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 12:11.33 | orionshock | ? |
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| 12:22.20 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r70 Track-o-Matique.toc: * Support for AddonLoader. |
| 12:22.20 | pb_ee1 | Good (UGT) Morning, Everyone! |
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| 12:23.00 | mitch0 | adirelle: where is the "name" param used in LibDualSpec:EnhanceDatabase? |
| 12:23.58 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 043.3 * r71 : Tagging as 3.3 |
| 12:24.18 | orionshock | mitch0: various section headers iirc |
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| 12:26.39 | Shinja | hi |
| 12:29.28 | orionshock | hi Shinja |
| 12:31.04 | Shinja | anyone here have done Mimiron HM since the hotfix ? |
| 12:31.20 | Groktar | nope |
| 12:31.36 | Groktar | we were going to take a look on wednesday |
| 12:31.42 | Groktar | but someone accidently started it |
| 12:31.45 | Groktar | so we said screw it |
| 12:31.46 | Groktar | lol |
| 12:33.47 | Pneumatus | Shinja: we did it 10man last night |
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| 12:38.29 | Shinja | he's much enjoyable, especialy with a melee class =) |
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| 12:46.18 | Repo | 10cooldown-to-go: 03mitch0 * r96 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 12:46.21 | Repo | drycode support for dual-spec profile changing via LibDualSpec |
| 12:46.40 | Repo | 10range-display: 03mitch0 * r226 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 12:46.43 | Repo | drycode support for dual-spec profile changing via LibDualSpec |
| 12:48.56 | Adirelle|work | anyone knows an addon that tweaked lightly the default quest tracker ? (like fixing left-aligned tracker and keeping the backdrop hidden) |
| 12:49.32 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: the name part is here for future use |
| 12:49.50 | mitch0 | alright, I just supplied the addon name that gets displayed in the options and such |
| 12:49.58 | Adirelle|work | e.g. using iterate database to list dualspec enabled addons |
| 12:51.10 | mitch0 | adirelle: I followed your instructions, but I can't test the stuff, hope it won't break :) |
| 12:51.39 | EthanCentaurai | Adirelle|work: check "Disable Mouseover" in the Objectives menu and add this line to any addon: WatchFrame.keepLeft = true |
| 12:52.11 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: no dual-specced toons ? |
| 12:52.18 | mitch0 | not at the moment |
| 12:52.28 | mitch0 | just re-started, only got till lvl71 :) |
| 12:52.35 | mitch0 | (from 70) |
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| 12:53.43 | mitch0 | coffee time |
| 12:54.38 | Adirelle|work | gaah... localization does not export "global" strings |
| 12:57.55 | Adirelle|work | EthanCentaurai: I still want mouse interaction, but not the ugly backdrop (that I had to expend to prevent string clipping) |
| 12:58.03 | Adirelle|work | s/expend/expand/ |
| 12:58.51 | EthanCentaurai | WatchFrame:Hide()? that doesn't hide the lines so shouldn't mess with interaction... |
| 13:07.32 | Adirelle|work | weird, keepLeft should be initialized on loading |
| 13:08.39 | Adirelle|work | hrm. isn't that fail ? "midPoint = self:GetLeft() + (self:GetRight() - self:GetLeft())/2;" |
| 13:10.31 | EthanCentaurai | yes |
| 13:11.08 | EthanCentaurai | I have the watch frame on the left of my screen and it remains right aligned without WatchFrame.keepLeft = true |
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| 13:13.41 | Adirelle|work | EthanCentaurai: according to the code, it is trying to set keepLeft to true on VARIABLE_LOADED |
| 13:14.12 | Adirelle|work | but for some reason that does not work |
| 13:15.42 | EthanCentaurai | hmm |
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| 13:24.30 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser has been changed so that it provides diffs that don't include _G/getglobal changes. Any file with a wrench icon has non-getglobal changes and will show the limited diff if you click it. Let me know if there are any issues. |
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| 13:39.21 | mitch0 | what event is fired when the mouseover target changes? |
| 13:40.06 | Mikk | devtools devtools devtools |
| 13:40.45 | Gnarfoz | !api UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_TARGET |
| 13:40.45 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_TARGET'. |
| 13:40.48 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 13:41.00 | Gnarfoz | !api mouseover |
| 13:41.01 | lua_bot | UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT: Fires whenever you mouse over any NPC or PC (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT) |
| 13:41.06 | Gnarfoz | eh, close |
| 13:41.45 | mitch0 | thanks |
| 13:42.19 | mitch0 | it doesn't fire if I mouseover a unitframe, right? is there a way to catch those as well? |
| 13:43.27 | EthanCentaurai | hook unitframe:OnEnter() |
| 13:43.40 | Mikk | UNIT_UPDATE or something |
| 13:43.50 | Mikk | like i said though |
| 13:43.52 | Mikk | just install devtools |
| 13:43.55 | Mikk | run /dtevents |
| 13:43.57 | Mikk | see what fires |
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| 13:44.12 | mitch0 | !devtools |
| 13:44.18 | mitch0 | hm |
| 13:44.22 | nevcairiel | ~devtools |
| 13:44.22 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 13:45.31 | Pneumatus | that needs updating for 3.2 |
| 13:45.51 | Pneumatus | as a broken version is in the default client :) |
| 13:48.11 | Fisker | harms Gnarfoz |
| 13:48.27 | Bruners | helps Fisker |
| 13:48.43 | Fisker | falls in love with Bruners |
| 13:48.51 | ckknight | mitch0: check UnitGUID("mouseover") in an OnUpdate |
| 13:52.02 | jnwhiteh | Pneumatus: how is it "broken"? |
| 13:52.12 | jnwhiteh | All i keep hearing is people talking shit about it, so i must be missing something. |
| 13:52.24 | Pneumatus | jnwhiteh: /framestack completey fails at knowing what frames are under the mouse |
| 13:52.32 | jnwhiteh | in my testing it worked brilliantly! |
| 13:52.42 | jnwhiteh | Pneumatus: under waht conditions, i've used it a number of times now to debug various issues |
| 13:52.57 | Pneumatus | lemee get a screenshot |
| 13:54.42 | jnwhiteh | Have you ever tried cosplay before? Never to me, but I am very interested to it, and when I saw the following cosplays , I got to know cosplay is not that easy, and what do you think about that? |
| 13:56.04 | Pneumatus | infact i can see what the issue is |
| 13:56.18 | Pneumatus | the blizz /framestack doesnt show the BACKGROUND strata |
| 13:56.18 | jnwhiteh | cool, report it then so it gets fixed :P |
| 13:56.23 | jnwhiteh | don't assume they know about it |
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| 13:56.28 | jnwhiteh | BACKGROUND isn'ta strata.. |
| 13:56.29 | jnwhiteh | so. |
| 13:56.30 | Pneumatus | we |
| 13:56.34 | jnwhiteh | that statement confuses me. |
| 13:56.34 | Pneumatus | framelevel |
| 13:56.41 | jnwhiteh | there is no background framelevel? |
| 13:56.57 | jnwhiteh | framelevels happen happen before layers are applied |
| 13:57.04 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus thinks about the draw layer, which is only for textures |
| 13:57.13 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
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| 13:57.19 | jnwhiteh | and textures are not displayed under /framestack |
| 13:58.05 | Pneumatus | sec... |
| 13:58.27 | jnwhiteh | interesting how ignworld posts on a "blog" on curse |
| 13:58.31 | jnwhiteh | with barely english |
| 13:58.34 | Pneumatus | http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9535/wowscrnshot062609145648.jpg |
| 13:58.35 | jnwhiteh | for traffic |
| 13:58.35 | Pneumatus | there we go |
| 13:58.44 | Pneumatus | that's with the mouse in the center of the minimap |
| 13:58.59 | Pneumatus | framestack on the left, dtframestack on the right |
| 13:59.17 | jnwhiteh | well the issue is not as you state it is, but it is not working properly. |
| 13:59.34 | jnwhiteh | I would post somewhere about the issue, so theyu can get it fixed |
| 13:59.38 | Pneumatus | well, whatever the issue is, lots of frames dont get seen by the blizz version |
| 13:59.44 | Pneumatus | same happens with PlayerFrame etc |
| 13:59.49 | jnwhiteh | well its a bug, cause its the same code :P |
| 13:59.54 | jnwhiteh | it just got mangled in translation |
| 14:00.13 | Pneumatus | i'd report it but blizz are fucking useless at paying attention to EU |
| 14:00.17 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 14:00.24 | nevcairiel | Someone should tell them that iriels original tooltip thing even looks better |
| 14:00.35 | Pneumatus | well, the new tooltip looks like it was made by fisher price |
| 14:00.51 | nevcairiel | It uses the default tooltip style |
| 14:00.55 | nevcairiel | with first line in big etc |
| 14:01.00 | Pneumatus | except its scaled wrong |
| 14:01.06 | Pneumatus | it doesnt obey UI scale |
| 14:01.17 | jnwhiteh | it can't obey UI scale |
| 14:01.23 | jnwhiteh | its acn't be parented to UIParent |
| 14:01.40 | jnwhiteh | otherwise it would not work on the world map |
| 14:01.45 | Pneumatus | how does iriel's original one manage to be a reasonable size though? |
| 14:01.51 | jnwhiteh | it sets a scale |
| 14:01.52 | Pneumatus | ohwait, it doesnt |
| 14:01.55 | jnwhiteh | I would assume. |
| 14:02.02 | Pneumatus | nah, the devtools one doesnt work on worldmap |
| 14:02.29 | Pneumatus | Message: Interface\FrameXML\UIParent.lua:3098: attempt to concatenate local 'input' (a nil value) |
| 14:02.30 | Pneumatus | *sigh |
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| 14:03.14 | jnwhiteh | rides home |
| 14:03.15 | jnwhiteh | bbiaf |
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| 14:11.50 | Fisker | be back in a fire? |
| 14:11.52 | Fisker | that sucks |
| 14:12.25 | kadrahil | lol |
| 14:12.43 | kadrahil | "bbiaw" - be back in a whirlwind |
| 14:13.01 | kadrahil | "bbiadf" - be back in a doomfire |
| 14:16.06 | Torhal | FAPWHM - Fisker assassinates people with his mind. |
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| 14:17.29 | SunTsu | Torhal: And you really think that a pea does that big a difference? ;) |
| 14:17.44 | Torhal | SunTsu: WHen propelled at high velocity? You bet. |
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| 14:22.43 | Mikk | i figured it out! |
| 14:22.46 | Mikk | "be back in a flash" |
| 14:22.49 | Mikk | pats himself on the back |
| 14:29.06 | Bruners | where do i turn off stupid emails from ebay? |
| 14:29.49 | mitch0 | in your spamfilter config :) |
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| 14:34.34 | harl | what stupid emails from ebay. |
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| 14:39.56 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r91 Core.lua: testing luadoc format |
| 14:40.08 | Shirik | nevcairiel: ping |
| 14:40.15 | nevcairiel | pong |
| 14:41.00 | Shirik | CallbackHandler.lua |
| 14:41.12 | Shirik | CallbackHandler:new() |
| 14:41.51 | Shirik | your definition of "Deprecated" is a bit odd. That error message doesn't seem like it should be there. It's not deprecated (at least not anymore) - it's completely not supported |
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| 14:42.16 | nevcairiel | thats why its an assert and stops the code =P |
| 14:42.25 | Shirik | Sure, but it asserts with the wrong statement :) |
| 14:42.36 | Shirik | I'm being picky about the word "deprecated" because it's not deprecated |
| 14:42.37 | nevcairiel | blame Mikk, his stuff |
| 14:42.38 | Shirik | it's not supported |
| 14:42.42 | Shirik | It's got your name on it! |
| 14:42.56 | jnwhiteh | in an id string |
| 14:43.01 | Shirik | I know I know |
| 14:43.02 | nevcairiel | it is unsupported now |
| 14:43.04 | jnwhiteh | which means he did the last commit, hardly makes him responsible :P |
| 14:43.07 | Shirik | I don't have access to it to do a blame |
| 14:43.08 | nevcairiel | was deprecated a long time ago |
| 14:43.38 | nevcairiel | thats why you pinged me now? =P |
| 14:43.49 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: its on wowace, so the repo is publically available |
| 14:44.16 | nevcairiel | probably still has my name on it because i imported it into the new repo |
| 14:44.20 | jnwhiteh | if you're that jazzed about it :P |
| 14:44.29 | nevcairiel | but i'm pretty sure it was Mikk |
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| 14:45.59 | nevcairiel | oh hey it has the full history, nice |
| 14:46.03 | nevcairiel | oh wait |
| 14:46.12 | nevcairiel | i did it on the old repo |
| 14:46.18 | nevcairiel | but yeah, it was mikk :P |
| 14:46.23 | jnwhiteh | hrm, i don't have the totem action ba on my shaman |
| 14:46.44 | nevcairiel | are there pre-mades this ptr? |
| 14:46.49 | nevcairiel | i need a shaman to test that thing |
| 14:47.16 | jnwhiteh | yeah there are |
| 14:47.17 | jnwhiteh | and i have one |
| 14:47.20 | jnwhiteh | and now it loads |
| 14:47.21 | jnwhiteh | the second time |
| 14:47.22 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 14:47.35 | Pneumatus | apparently the new totembar ignores totem cooldowns |
| 14:47.40 | Pneumatus | so you can spam fire elemental |
| 14:48.27 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 14:48.27 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 14:48.46 | jnwhiteh | Pneumatus: I don't have call of fire, etc. |
| 14:48.48 | jnwhiteh | just call of earth |
| 14:49.04 | nevcairiel | did you visit a trainer? |
| 14:49.11 | jnwhiteh | shouldn't have to, this is a premade |
| 14:49.19 | nevcairiel | there, copied a premade shaman .. have to add that silly bar into bartender |
| 14:49.24 | Fisker | i hate you jnwhiteh |
| 14:49.27 | Fisker | you're supposed to be in a fire |
| 14:49.31 | jnwhiteh | kk |
| 14:49.34 | Fisker | and now you're playing on the PTR |
| 14:49.41 | Pneumatus | ive not got any chars copied yet, only have a level 10 druid which i levelled to sort out an overlay in SimpleUnitFrames for the druid mana bar |
| 14:49.41 | Fisker | bbiaf |
| 14:49.45 | Fisker | = be back in a fire |
| 14:49.57 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I just have a problem with people saying "deprecated" when it's not. Pet peeve and all that |
| 14:50.06 | Shirik | It's a minor change |
| 14:50.09 | Shirik | Text at best |
| 14:50.20 | Shirik | I'm not asking to bring back support :P |
| 14:50.50 | Shirik | hell I don't even know what it does |
| 14:51.15 | nevcairiel | Its a function thats beign called when the first addon registers for the callback |
| 14:51.20 | nevcairiel | or the last one unregister |
| 14:51.21 | Fisker | shoos Shirik away |
| 14:51.26 | Fisker | what are you doing in here? :( |
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| 14:51.34 | nevcairiel | but syntax changed, etc =P |
| 14:51.34 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 14:51.34 | Shirik | I'm always in here |
| 14:51.37 | Fisker | i know |
| 14:51.39 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: you do quests at the trainer |
| 14:51.41 | Shirik | but yeah I'm supposed to be at work |
| 14:51.42 | Fisker | but you rarely write |
| 14:51.42 | Shirik | so bai |
| 14:51.43 | Fisker | :o |
| 14:51.44 | Fisker | bai |
| 14:51.58 | jnwhiteh | but you can just buy em |
| 14:52.02 | Mikk | actually, in my current version, that has the ":IsRegisteredName" stuff that i completely forgot about |
| 14:52.08 | Mikk | that error message is baibai gone |
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| 14:52.30 | nevcairiel | IsRegistered-what? |
| 14:53.39 | nevcairiel | Speaking of core libs, i should talk to kaelten again to finally place a "Release" sticker on Ace3 |
| 14:53.59 | Pneumatus | shouldnt it just be mature? |
| 14:54.12 | nicoli_s | itll never be ready for release! |
| 14:54.14 | nevcairiel | technically its still in Beta |
| 14:54.22 | nevcairiel | but its been ready since i wrote the docs now =P |
| 14:54.41 | nevcairiel | assuming we just ditch the not-so-much-working AceTab |
| 14:54.47 | nevcairiel | i have no real intentions to fix it |
| 14:54.51 | nevcairiel | i never understood that code |
| 14:55.23 | Mikk | nevcairiel: someone requested - and i've completely forgotten who and why now - a way to check if you're listening to an event or not |
| 14:55.37 | nevcairiel | apparently it wasn't that important |
| 14:55.38 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:56.12 | Gnarfoz | that's tab-complete, not tabs in UIs, right? |
| 14:56.25 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 14:56.26 | Mikk | tabcomplete yes |
| 14:56.31 | Mikk | which is working in acetab2 |
| 14:56.38 | Mikk | but acetab2 and acetab3 disagree with eachother violently |
| 14:56.58 | nevcairiel | aceconfigcmd was never properly integrated into acetab3 |
| 14:57.01 | nevcairiel | so its kinda useless now |
| 14:57.01 | Gnarfoz | is that really interesting anymore? just for commandline options? |
| 14:57.11 | Mikk | not only for commandline options |
| 14:57.16 | Gnarfoz | for what else? |
| 14:57.29 | Mikk | chat addons adding completion of character names for instance |
| 14:57.31 | Gnarfoz | that's in the default UI come 3.2, that's what I meant |
| 14:57.42 | Mikk | nods |
| 14:58.05 | Mikk | so yeah the biggest reasons for having it are gone, really |
| 14:58.16 | Mikk | we have gui config now, and completion goes into standard ui |
| 14:58.32 | Mikk | anyway, zztime |
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| 14:59.23 | kadrahil | i can has zztime? D: |
| 14:59.40 | harl | why is it that some people saying "bot" sound as if they're saying "butt" |
| 15:02.56 | EthanCentaurai | are the PTR logins working yet for EU B-Net accounts? |
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| 15:05.41 | jnwhiteh | EthanCentaurai: yes |
| 15:05.44 | jnwhiteh | i'm on my bnet account |
| 15:06.05 | EthanCentaurai | kk, it's just that I still can't :P |
| 15:06.08 | EthanCentaurai | tries again |
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| 15:08.51 | EthanCentaurai | nope, still can't :X |
| 15:09.48 | kadrahil | EthanCentaurai: RNG hates you! |
| 15:10.00 | harl | lawl |
| 15:10.26 | kadrahil | i tried to log on the PTR this morning before work and the servers didn't seem to be up :( |
| 15:11.44 | EthanCentaurai | my pre-made still hasn't been copied over anyway |
| 15:12.10 | jnwhiteh | Pneumatus: I can't reproduce your issue. |
| 15:12.22 | jnwhiteh | at least I think it was you :P |
| 15:12.26 | Pneumatus | the framestack issue? |
| 15:12.43 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e7536b63636ddd2707dccb7064f208f3.png |
| 15:12.43 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 15:12.58 | jnwhiteh | perhaps running the two side-by-side is causing an issue? |
| 15:13.09 | Pneumatus | nah, i tried with just the blizz one loaded as well |
| 15:13.30 | Pneumatus | the only way it could be an issue would be if they share the same SV table name |
| 15:13.41 | Pneumatus | ... which i guess is possible |
| 15:13.45 | Pneumatus | i shall check |
| 15:15.05 | Pneumatus | nope, Blizzard_DebugTools doesnt have a SV |
| 15:16.22 | Repo | 10macro-bank: 03Odlaw * r37 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 15:16.25 | Repo | Added Toggle a button to the main macro window to open/close the MacroBank window. |
| 15:16.28 | Repo | Added options to remember and reset the MacroBank anchor. |
| 15:16.30 | Pneumatus | ill clear cache/wtf later and give it another go |
| 15:16.31 | Repo | Added option to open the MacroBank window when opening main macro window. |
| 15:16.34 | Repo | Korean translations were updated (Thanks mrgyver) |
| 15:20.02 | Repo | 10pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r79 PassLoot.toc: |
| 15:20.05 | Repo | Translation repackage - Russian update (Thanks StingerSoft and lacostes) |
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| 15:45.59 | EthanCentaurai | just found out that Michael Jackson has died... I wonder what they're going to do with him? is he recyclable? is he bio-degradable? |
| 15:46.27 | Vonhinten | Are you kidding? There are plastic shopping bags with a shorter half-life than his body |
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| 15:57.35 | mitchnull | Entry 'Broker.lua' not uptodate. Cannot merge. |
| 15:57.42 | mitchnull | git repo. whattodo? |
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| 15:59.45 | Torhal | mitchnull: Are you the only one working on the repo? |
| 15:59.49 | Gnarfoz | pull first? not sure |
| 16:00.48 | Stanzilla | trade chat is full of http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33577 spam, MJ loot >.< |
| 16:03.03 | SunTsu | mitchnull: Did you change something before pulling and receiving the current HEAD? |
| 16:03.18 | mitchnull | don't think so |
| 16:03.29 | Gnarfoz | sigh, german PTR server not up |
| 16:03.32 | mitchnull | anyway, gotta run now, will sort out later |
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| 16:03.43 | Gnarfoz | should have transferred to the spanish one |
| 16:04.42 | ckknight | bbiab |
| 16:06.26 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: I can't even log in |
| 16:06.46 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: can do that fine, just only Brill and Naralex online |
| 16:06.54 | Gnarfoz | wtb Fordring |
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| 16:11.08 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: "the login server is currently busy. please try again later" |
| 16:12.41 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: yeah, I got that 2 days ago, but it works for me now |
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| 16:29.08 | Repo | 10broker-recount-statistics: 03Tristanian * r9 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 16:29.11 | Repo | - Embedded LibQTipClick-1.1, to facilitate clickable tooltip functionality. Right-clicking a player name will now display a detail window, according to selected session. |
| 16:29.14 | Repo | - Removed PLAYER_UNGHOST and PLAYER_ALIVE event registration, as they were needless. |
| 16:29.17 | Repo | - Slightly refined the configuration dropdown menu. |
| 16:29.20 | Repo | - Added InitRecountProperties, getDetails and showDetailWindowByName methods and click handler. Modified tooltip drawing function, as needed. |
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| 16:38.46 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2167 RecipeDB/ARL-Alchemy.lua: Update 3.2 alchemy info |
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| 16:40.14 | Gibbonz | its great that AtlasLoot can now show craftable items as spells or items, but might I suggest it be made a button on the loot frame instead? Similar to the 10/25man toggle for instance drops :) |
| 16:49.34 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2168 / (3 files in 2 directories): Add Cardinal Ruby quest. |
| 16:50.10 | FtH|Daemona | \o/ euro ptr copy working |
| 16:50.33 | Gibbonz | something like 'Show As Items' / 'Show As Spells' for example |
| 16:57.56 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: working vs. "queue: 5 days" :\ |
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| 16:58.17 | Gnarfoz | also, Fordring is not up ;\ |
| 16:58.24 | FtH|Daemona | yeah but at least you can put a char in the queue ... before you couldnt... |
| 16:58.38 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 16:58.40 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: you don't have to use fordring =p |
| 16:58.41 | Gnarfoz | *copies* |
| 16:58.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: of course not |
| 16:58.51 | FtH|Daemona | pfff go remolus |
| 16:58.58 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: see you there, then ;p |
| 16:59.43 | Gnarfoz | which one is spanish? naralex or remulos? |
| 16:59.51 | FtH|Daemona | remulos |
| 16:59.56 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 17:00.00 | Gnarfoz | probably the least populated ;p |
| 17:00.20 | Gnarfoz | (and I have to concentrate to not type "romulus" each time) |
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| 17:26.12 | Gibbonz | if remulos is spanish, which are english? :p |
| 17:26.43 | Tristanian | I think Brill but dont quote me on that |
| 17:27.04 | Gibbonz | hehe ta |
| 17:27.15 | Pneumatus | EU Brill is the english realm |
| 17:27.25 | Pneumatus | except its full of germans |
| 17:27.35 | Tristanian | :p |
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| 17:57.35 | Gibbonz | shame you can't really play on live while waiting on a ptr download :o |
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| 17:57.45 | fewyn | i did |
| 17:58.07 | Gibbonz | ouch :p |
| 17:59.34 | airtonix | ~log |
| 17:59.34 | purl | methinks log is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowhead/ |
| 18:01.48 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2169 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix ticket 675 |
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| 18:11.25 | Bruners | 23 haste rating vs 22 agi on cloak for Blood DK? |
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| 18:13.11 | Arrowmaster | ~logs |
| 18:13.11 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 18:13.20 | Arrowmaster | ~factinfo log |
| 18:13.20 | purl | log -- created by Primar|Work <n=primar24@213.249.249.82> at Tue Apr 28 08:12:53 2009 (59 days); it has been requested 7 times, last by airtonix, 13m 46s ago. |
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| 18:14.05 | Arrowmaster | purl, forget log |
| 18:14.05 | purl | i forgot log, Arrowmaster |
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| 18:17.35 | ramoz | im totally lost, where's the "display lowlvl quests on minimap" option? |
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| 18:19.52 | Arrowmaster | ramoz: tracking |
| 18:20.13 | ramoz | ah ofc! thanks |
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| 18:41.40 | harl | is there a way to force the CurseClient to only save data to the directory the executable is run from instead of %appdata%/CurseClient ? |
| 18:48.09 | nicoli_s | not that i know of harl |
| 18:48.21 | nicoli_s | though if youd like, you can file a ticket on curseforge, the dev might add it |
| 18:49.03 | nevcairiel | hehe the CC in portable mode |
| 18:49.43 | nicoli_s | also, if youd liek to see it in cc4, you could also file a ticket on that tracker as itd be more likely to see it get in there than in cc3 |
| 18:50.34 | harl | yeah |
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| 19:00.41 | harl | wonders why there's a "Ticket" link on the Overview page for cc4, but no "Post a ticket" link with its Tickets page. |
| 19:01.23 | nicoli_s | there isnt? hmm |
| 19:01.50 | nicoli_s | yell at ckknight |
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| 19:02.03 | Hjalte | You can post tickets from inside CC4 |
| 19:02.14 | harl | i don't have cc4 |
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| 19:02.17 | nicoli_s | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-v4-windows/create-ticket/ harl |
| 19:02.43 | harl | yea, nicoli_s, i know that's the page the "Ticket" link points at |
| 19:03.15 | nicoli_s | ah yeah see what you mean, i thought you were saying you couldnt see how to post a ticket |
| 19:04.39 | ckknight | harl: link? |
| 19:05.16 | harl | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-v4-windows/tickets/ |
| 19:05.25 | ckknight | you logged in? |
| 19:05.58 | harl | hm, strange, i was logged in on all other pages, just not on /tickets/ |
| 19:06.20 | harl | didn't see that before |
| 19:06.34 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=9521234333&sid=1#9 <-feed the troll :( |
| 19:07.28 | robotusch | kyler en lagkage i synet på Fisker |
| 19:07.35 | Fisker | slaps robotusch around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:07.41 | Fisker | msn motherfucker |
| 19:07.45 | Fisker | skal lige spamme dig |
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| 19:10.03 | Fisker | ellers ligger jeg mig på lur robotusch |
| 19:10.10 | Fisker | og du ved hvad der sker når nogle ligger på lur |
| 19:10.11 | harl | feeds the Fisker. |
| 19:10.13 | harl | there. |
| 19:16.55 | Fisker | harl |
| 19:17.17 | Fisker | robotusch kan inte sømme |
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| 19:25.08 | Pneumatus | does algalon's 1h timer start after the first pull? |
| 19:26.04 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 19:27.04 | Fisker | starts an hour after instance reset |
| 19:27.07 | Fisker | damn that would suck |
| 19:27.19 | Jamash | Is it accurate to say that AceEvent doesn't report events to an addon before that addon's OnEnable has been called? |
| 19:27.28 | vhaarr | no |
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| 19:28.28 | Jamash | I'm seeing some very strange behavior with AceEvent and COMPANION_UPDATE |
| 19:28.46 | Jamash | which is to say my event handler isn't getting called |
| 19:29.41 | vhaarr | paste.wowace.com |
| 19:29.49 | Jamash | ok |
| 19:32.46 | Jamash | http://paste.wowace.com/830/ |
| 19:32.56 | harl | watches Fisker explode |
| 19:35.05 | steev | so... this rogue needs to kill himself |
| 19:35.13 | Bruners | Fisker: sømme? swim ? |
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| 19:35.32 | steev | 78 undead rogue vs. 77 Draenei Shaman |
| 19:35.45 | steev | and... the shaman wins... then wins again... then wins again |
| 19:35.55 | harl | says no to Bruners. |
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| 19:53.54 | Fisker | slaps Bruners around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:54.35 | Fisker | nemesis |
| 20:04.19 | Fisker | robotusch |
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| 20:04.28 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2170 RecipeDB/ARL-Alchemy.lua: Add leveling info for alchemy recipes < 280ish |
| 20:05.23 | Fisker | oh my Ackis |
| 20:05.27 | Fisker | you are my candyman |
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| 20:14.09 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/new-site-enhancements/ |
| 20:20.34 | harl | woot ticket. |
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| 20:20.52 | harl | omg shoes! lol |
| 20:20.56 | harl | sorry ;) |
| 20:23.50 | Fisker | slaps robotusch around a bit with a large trout |
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| 20:44.59 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://lua.org | Curse Client: http://www.curse.com/client | http://wowace.com/a/contests-for-blizz-con-tickets | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23763 | Want your Username changed? http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ |
| 20:45.42 | waallen | oh, I see. Anyway I've reset the cast text + cast time to the default LuaTexts and on Ulduar trash the castbar text is often missing (that always happen on Sara and yogg's brain casts) |
| 20:45.54 | waallen | sadly I can't be more specific than that |
| 20:46.12 | Shefki | waallen: You or someone else has mentioned this before and I have never been able to reproduce this. |
| 20:47.04 | Shefki | There is an issue where the castbar doesn't hide itself when it should if auto hide is set sometimes and as a result it looks like the cast text is missing. |
| 20:47.51 | Shefki | waallen: What frame are you seeing the text missing on? |
| 20:48.29 | waallen | I am not using the auto-hide setting; the weird thing is that it was working like intended till the last week and I haven't changed anything in the configuration |
| 20:48.37 | waallen | it's happening on the target frame |
| 20:50.16 | Shefki | waallen: Well the fix specifically fixed stuff like target of target not showing cast info. |
| 20:52.10 | Shefki | waallen: Find a way to reproduce it outside of a raid and I can probably figure out what's causing it... |
| 20:52.26 | Shefki | waallen: But I've never seen cast info blank on the brain. |
| 20:52.44 | waallen | Shefki: I've tried but I can't manage; it looks like it happens when I switch to a frame that's already casting a spell |
| 20:53.12 | waallen | if I - for example - keep Sara targetted, I'll see all her casts while if I switch in the middle of a cast, the bar won't have any text |
| 20:53.43 | waallen | Maybe it's a matter of events that trigger the update |
| 20:54.23 | waallen | Uhm, all the UNIT_SPELLCAST_* events are ticked |
| 20:54.25 | Shefki | waallen: Doesn't matter, when you switch targets we check for cast info becuase no event is fired. |
| 20:54.56 | waallen | I see |
| 20:55.12 | waallen | it also seems to happen on those casts that have got a decreasing timer if you know what I mean |
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| 20:56.37 | Tristanian | what's with the 500 Internal Server Errors on WoWAce projects ? |
| 20:56.46 | Shefki | Hmm it might happen if you're switching from two targets that are both casting and not using auto-hide. |
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| 20:56.59 | Shefki | That would be pretty hard to reproduce. |
| 20:57.08 | waallen | Oh that's quite what I am doing actually |
| 20:57.25 | waallen | Switching from one crusher to the other actually causes it |
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| 20:57.45 | waallen | not targetting anything that's casting before switching to yogg's brain though |
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| 20:57.55 | waallen | it seems to affect channeled spells |
| 20:58.46 | Shefki | I have an idea what's causing it. I don't think it's unique to channeled spells, but channeled is probably more likely to cause it becuase it's a longer cast. |
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| 21:04.55 | waallen | Oh, good |
| 21:05.52 | ckknight | Tristanian: looking into it |
| 21:07.05 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2172 RecipeDB/ARL-Alchemy.lua: |
| 21:07.08 | Repo | More alchemy updates, all bc and pre-bc recipes have levels added to them. |
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| 21:16.06 | Repo | 10broker-recount-statistics: 03Tristanian * r10 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Added a missing label to the tooltip hint. |
| 21:16.08 | Repo | - Initial commit of GetRankLabel method (pending review). |
| 21:21.01 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta1-5-g5637d0e Modules/LuaTexts/LuaTexts.lua: [+1 commit] Fix cast texts when changing targets mid cast. |
| 21:21.05 | Fisker | robotusch nu kommer du kraftedme på msn! |
| 21:21.09 | Shefki | waallen: ^ |
| 21:21.18 | Shefki | waallen: Should fix that for you. |
| 21:23.51 | Repo | 10bindmanager: 03aircanada_arygos * r6 embeds.xml: BM ALPHA 1.0 |
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| 21:29.21 | Repo | 10bindmanager: 03aircanada_arygos * r7 Tags/: Tags |
| 21:31.33 | waallen | Shefki: awesome, I'll try it on Sunday when we go to Yogg again |
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| 21:35.58 | FtH|Daemona | http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/KN3rF-_pPO4/bing-the-fastest-way-to-google |
| 21:36.00 | FtH|Daemona | haha |
| 21:39.51 | nevcairiel | they said like google 200 times |
| 21:43.04 | Repo | 10broker-recount-statistics: 03Tristanian * r11 / (4 files in 2 directories): - Added Russian (ruRU) localization. |
| 21:43.32 | Repo | 10broker-recount-statistics: 03Tristanian 04v1.2 beta * r12 : Tagging as v1.2 beta |
| 21:44.00 | Shefki | ~seen digmouse |
| 21:44.03 | purl | digmouse <n=chatzill@58.20.47.166> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 8h 15m 46s ago, saying: 'ah, got it'. |
| 21:44.18 | copystring | anyone figured out what these new event types like "HEAL_ABSORB" are for? |
| 21:48.40 | Repo | 10cooldown-timers2: 03Shefki * r126 : Remove externals... ugh |
| 21:48.41 | durcyn | Ackis: you know, you really should pilfer the map area selection code from Routes and use it for IHML macro definitions, imo |
| 21:50.02 | Kaelten | hey guys, I've made this in response to some of the people who have a hard time reading the other themese |
| 21:50.02 | Kaelten | http://www.curseforge.com/themes/readable-minimalism/edit/ |
| 21:50.11 | Kaelten | er |
| 21:50.14 | Kaelten | http://www.curseforge.com/themes/readable-minimalism/ |
| 21:51.28 | Repo | 10cooldown-timers2: 03Shefki * r127 / (6 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:51.31 | Repo | Switch to LibSharedMedia-3.0, SharedMedia no longer publishes to LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 21:56.38 | Repo | 10cooldown-timers2: 03Shefki * r128 CooldownTimers2.toc: Bump TOC for 3.1.0 |
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| 22:07.49 | Repo | 10cooldown-timers2: 03Shefki * r129 CooldownTimers2.toc: |
| 22:07.53 | Repo | We really don't need SharedMediaLib (the old 1.0 version) and X-Embeds is pointless now. |
| 22:10.40 | sylvanaar | i pmed someone, now it says i have 1pm, and its from me |
| 22:11.14 | Shefki | sylvanaar: So how do you feel about GetQuestDifficultyColor? :P |
| 22:11.54 | sylvanaar | im going to add _G.GetDifficultyColor = _G.GetQuestDifficultyColor? somewhere |
| 22:12.33 | Pneumatus | thats what ckk did in dogtags |
| 22:12.36 | Shefki | My local copy of PB4 has it. lol |
| 22:12.43 | Shefki | Pneumatus: ckk didn't do it I did. |
| 22:12.47 | Shefki | And that's not what I did. |
| 22:12.53 | Pneumatus | well, something along them lines |
| 22:12.56 | sylvanaar | in my code i just said 'local getcolor = GetDifficultyColor or GetQuestDifficultyColor |
| 22:13.58 | sylvanaar | renaming a function seems really stupid |
| 22:14.37 | sylvanaar | given how many errors its going to cause |
| 22:14.54 | Fisker | robotusch |
| 22:15.02 | Vonhinten | wouldn't be an issue if there were namespaces |
| 22:15.04 | Shefki | sylvanaar: Hell in 3.0 they reversed the order of paramters in one function. |
| 22:15.07 | Shefki | For no apparent reason. |
| 22:15.09 | Shefki | They just did. |
| 22:15.16 | sylvanaar | the chat one? |
| 22:15.18 | Shefki | Used to be (frame, somethingelse) |
| 22:15.24 | sylvanaar | there was a reason |
| 22:15.25 | Shefki | err... |
| 22:15.29 | Shefki | (somethinglese, frame) |
| 22:15.36 | Shefki | Now it's (frame, somethingelse) |
| 22:15.48 | End | it was probably for self-ism? |
| 22:16.00 | sylvanaar | i thought it was the reverse |
| 22:16.17 | sylvanaar | was frame, something -> now something, frame |
| 22:16.19 | Shefki | It was some event handler or something for some frame I can't remember which one. |
| 22:16.27 | Shefki | The frame used to be an optional paramter. |
| 22:16.30 | Shefki | If it was missing it'd use this |
| 22:16.36 | sylvanaar | it was like the chat command handler or something |
| 22:16.37 | Shefki | They made it required and put it first. |
| 22:16.48 | Shefki | And yes it was part of the self'ism. |
| 22:17.07 | Shefki | sylvanaar: We're probably thinking of similar changes that were just separate. |
| 22:17.15 | waallen | Is anyone else missing updates on CC4 that are instead available on CC3? |
| 22:17.17 | Shefki | I wouldn't be surpised if they did it in multiple places. |
| 22:18.12 | Shefki | I wish the API was only changed if absolutely necessary. Rather than willy nilly changing it because someone feels like it. |
| 22:18.27 | Shefki | I get making improvements. |
| 22:18.41 | Shefki | But sometimes their changes look like someone went on a terror just changing stuff becuase they didn't like it. |
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| 22:20.12 | Hjalte | waallen: Yes, just checked, I have 5 addons that appear to have updates in CC3 but not in CC4. |
| 22:20.25 | waallen | Hjalte: alright thanks |
| 22:20.35 | Pneumatus | CC4 addon service sync looks like it died about 24hr ago |
| 22:20.55 | sylvanaar | where can i get cc4 |
| 22:20.59 | sylvanaar | wtb |
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| 22:25.53 | Ackis | 2222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 nnnnnnnnhnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnna$#######################################%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%r%b hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnh{}"''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''L;L;L;L;L;L;L;L;L;L;L;L;. |
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| 22:26.15 | End | Ackis: worthless |
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| 22:27.58 | Gnarfoz | seen better |
| 22:28.02 | Fisker | ackis just wiped a raid there because he didn't heal the maintank |
| 22:28.32 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how a cat produces the alternating chars, though L;L;L;L; |
| 22:28.35 | ckknight | hehe |
| 22:28.47 | Gnarfoz | because one requires shift and the other doesn't |
| 22:29.07 | Gnarfoz | (or he has some secret ninja keyboard layout where that isn't the case) |
| 22:29.12 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: caps-lock |
| 22:29.36 | Gnarfoz | oh, right, us layout also has working capslock |
| 22:29.47 | Gnarfoz | not shift-lock like german layout ;D |
| 22:29.55 | ckknight | hmm |
| 22:30.41 | Gnarfoz | (shift-lock is made of fail :|) |
| 22:31.17 | Fisker | shift-lock = holding the shift button ;P |
| 22:33.57 | Xtek | ] |
| 22:37.47 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: incorrect |
| 22:38.09 | Fisker | incorrect |
| 22:38.41 | Gnarfoz | your mom was incorrect about the expiry date on that condom |
| 22:39.28 | Fisker | i didn't wear protection |
| 22:40.11 | Fisker | Do you realize the implications of what i just said Gnarfoz? |
| 22:40.14 | Gnarfoz | your (yes) doing you're mom? |
| 22:40.48 | Fisker | trolling doesn't work on me Gnarfoz |
| 22:40.51 | Fisker | <-immune |
| 22:40.56 | Gnarfoz | incorrect |
| 22:41.03 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 22:41.15 | Fisker | And not only am i doing my own mom, but i traveled back in time to become my own father |
| 22:41.16 | Fisker | bam! |
| 22:41.45 | Gnarfoz | you've now entered Paradoxville |
| 22:42.03 | Fisker | gonna get some sleep |
| 22:42.16 | Fisker | Blizzard couldn't handle putting out the SC2 beta |
| 22:46.21 | thul | what has happened to NECB? :-( |
| 22:46.41 | Fisker | died so many many years ago |
| 22:47.49 | thul | I just downloaded it, and it is nothing like the thing I remember. |
| 22:47.54 | thul | I want BARS EVERYWHERE THAT I CAN CHOOSE |
| 22:47.57 | thul | ach |
| 22:48.01 | thul | i need rough manlove Fisker |
| 22:49.02 | Fisker | can't provide |
| 22:49.05 | Fisker | <-sleep |
| 22:49.23 | thul | :/ |
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| 23:00.11 | thul | and what is up with 11k shreds? |
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| 23:03.38 | Repo | 10broker-recount-statistics: 03Tristanian 04v1.2b beta * r13 : Tagging as v1.2b beta |
| 23:05.03 | ckknight | Fisker: put on your cool face |
| 23:05.31 | thul | ckknight: is shred unusual in druid pvp=? |
| 23:05.42 | ckknight | I'm not the one to ask |
| 23:06.22 | thul | and, alternatives to necb? :-P |
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| 23:19.11 | Camci | http://music.todaysbigthing.com/2009/06/26 |
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| 23:21.08 | Ichee | So, I had a mod idea float across my mind, and I want to give it a shot, but I have noooo idea where to begin. So, I came here to bug all you fine folks. |
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| 23:22.20 | Primer | it's a bad idea |
| 23:22.36 | Ichee | -.- |
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| 23:34.38 | Hjalte | I don't get how some of the "bad" guilds on my realm manage to do FL4. They can't all be bugging the encounter, can they? |
| 23:35.00 | Hjalte | This is in 25-man. |
| 23:35.19 | VonhintenHOME` | You have to understand how "bad" guilds work |
| 23:35.46 | VonhintenHOME` | With enough practice, bad players can perform well |
| 23:36.02 | Tristanian | or FL4 has been so badly nerfed, its not even funny anymore |
| 23:36.10 | Camci | uld is nerfed to the ground |
| 23:36.17 | Camci | even bad guild can clear the shit place |
| 23:36.42 | Hjalte | Clearing it is no problem. |
| 23:36.43 | Shefki | It was always easy to clear. |
| 23:36.45 | Camci | we one shot FL4, and we arent bad. so imagine how bad can do with a few attempts :p |
| 23:37.04 | Tristanian | not all of it, still Freya, general and YS to nerf, coming soon(tm) |
| 23:37.05 | Tristanian | :P |
| 23:37.11 | Shefki | And you know I really don't understand why people sit around and go "Ohh we're a good guild those other guys are bad." |
| 23:37.20 | Shefki | 99% of the difference in guilds is time spent. |
| 23:37.30 | Camci | not really |
| 23:37.36 | Camci | 99% is way on top |
| 23:37.38 | VonhintenHOME` | You guys are seriously overestimating the ease of Ulduar |
| 23:37.43 | Tristanian | I guess you are in a good guild Shefki :p |
| 23:37.49 | Shefki | Unless you're in a top 50 guild you're all bad in comparison.... |
| 23:38.05 | VonhintenHOME` | My guild couldn't get Hodir down in our allotted weekly time |
| 23:38.32 | Tristanian | 24 but working on it :s |
| 23:38.45 | Camci | some ppl would say your guild are bad :P |
| 23:39.17 | VonhintenHOME` | as a whole yes, but we have some players that could easily be in a top rated guild |
| 23:39.34 | Ichee | My guild gets held back by attendance, hooray! |
| 23:39.46 | Camci | not that im saying your guild are bad, but yea |
| 23:39.58 | Hjalte | My guild is bad. But we're still one of the best guilds on the server. FL4 is still some time away, only done FL2 so far, but some of the guilds that are usually worse than us, have done FL4. |
| 23:40.14 | Shefki | This is a bloody easy MMO. It's all about time spent. Even if that time isn't spent raiding. Everyone can play well. There is no such thing as just bad or just great. It's about effort and itme. |
| 23:40.33 | Shefki | Pressing buttons in the right order is not skill. |
| 23:40.37 | Ichee | The top guild on my server got a 72 hr ban for exploiting FL4, I was highly amused. |
| 23:41.04 | Camci | wasnt easy before |
| 23:41.08 | Tristanian | it is true that it had been dumbed down |
| 23:41.11 | Tristanian | over time |
| 23:41.22 | Camci | until blizz saw 95% of the money they get is from casuals they had to change tactic ^^ |
| 23:41.45 | Hirsute | And thank goodnes. |
| 23:41.53 | Hirsute | s/goodnes/goodness/ |
| 23:42.14 | Shefki | Seriously what's the point in making content only 5% can see. |
| 23:42.20 | Ichee | As a business move, it was brilliant, but it's frustrating to see content being dumbed down so quickly. Ulduar wasn't even as hard as sunwell, and they nerfed it all to hell already. |
| 23:42.29 | VonhintenHOME` | To be honest, I'd be glad to see 25mans go away, and do only 10 mans, or.. dial-a-raid-size |
| 23:42.31 | Shefki | The hard mode system has given players who want more of a challenge just that. |
| 23:42.36 | Camci | I never said it was a bad move from Blizzard... |
| 23:42.37 | Tristanian | I thought it was easy Shefki :P |
| 23:42.40 | Shefki | While giving more casual players the ability to clear. |
| 23:42.41 | Hjalte | Shefki: It might not be skill, but still some people are just bad. |
| 23:42.53 | Tristanian | the hard mode system isn't working if you are going to nerf it to the ground a month later |
| 23:42.55 | Tristanian | or two |
| 23:42.56 | Camci | but in 3.2 giving away free t.8 was pretty bad imo |
| 23:43.06 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Shefki: I disagree, pushing buttons in the right order -is- skill. the proof is that some morons still can't do it right. :P but that's certainly not to imply it's a high degree of skill |
| 23:43.22 | Hirsute | Why? |
| 23:43.31 | Camci | why its bad? |
| 23:43.49 | Hirsute | Why is it better to make people work through raids they won't be able to find groups for to get gear to allow them to work through another raid they'll have a slightly easier time finding a group for, just to have a chance at the most recent content? |
| 23:44.00 | Shefki | I'm just really tired of this whole "ohh the casuals are ruining the game." While everyone ignores that the game wouldn't be half as good if it wasn't for the casuals subscription fees. |
| 23:44.17 | Tristanian | because it destroys any sense of achievement (not the crappy achievement system) that you gain through raiding |
| 23:44.25 | Tristanian | you certainly dont raid for gear |
| 23:44.29 | Tristanian | that much is certain |
| 23:44.32 | VonhintenHOME` | the average casual doesn't have time or inclination to sift through 99% of the useless or outdated information out there to find the 1% that makes a difference, such as the case with Elitist Jerks forums |
| 23:44.43 | NightHawkTheSan1 | the sense of achievement is doing it sooner than others, or doing it at all. |
| 23:45.03 | Tristanian | NightHawkTheSan1 ultimately no one cares when you did it |
| 23:45.05 | Hirsute | Tristanian: I dont play the game for a sense of achievement. I play the game to enjoy myself. |
| 23:45.09 | Tristanian | since everyone will have it |
| 23:45.11 | Shefki | There's plenty of chance for senses of acomplishment if that's your thing. |
| 23:45.17 | Shefki | There's plenty of chance for getting loot if that's your thing. |
| 23:45.19 | Camci | how about ppl not being arsed to raid, and then get T8 just like that is bullshit. Im leading the top guild on my server and we been farming that shit place since it came out, clearing it every week, and I have not even 1 T8 yet... |
| 23:45.24 | Tristanian | me neither, but that's how I enjoy myself |
| 23:45.28 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Tristanian: it doesn't matter what OTHER people think, though, a sense of achievment is purely your own interpretation |
| 23:45.32 | Shefki | There's plenty of chance for running around collecting silly stuff like pets if that's your thing. |
| 23:45.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | if you feel like you achieved something, you did. |
| 23:45.42 | Shefki | I really don't get why people think the game has to be for them and nobody else. |
| 23:45.44 | Tristanian | if I wanted to just breeze through content, I'd pick a single player game |
| 23:45.50 | Shefki | It's an MMO not "Shefki's game." |
| 23:45.53 | Hirsute | And the "since then everyone will have it" doesn't fly with me. I was sick of the gear-based epeening long before Blizz changed their approach to end-game content. |
| 23:46.00 | VonhintenHOME` | Camci, how is it you have no T8, seriously |
| 23:46.24 | Hirsute | <--Has no T8 |
| 23:46.27 | VonhintenHOME` | I have my 4pc T8 and none of it came from 25 man bosses |
| 23:46.31 | Shefki | Camci: You're complaining it's too easy and then you say you have no T8. *boggles* |
| 23:46.34 | Hirsute | Because I don't have the time to spend 10-20 hours a week raiding. |
| 23:47.29 | Tristanian | so if others have the time to invest and put a bit more effort into something, don't they deserve to get something, even minor as a reward ? |
| 23:47.46 | Shefki | Tristanian: That's what the mounts are for. |
| 23:47.50 | Hirsute | Tristanian: Not if it means that most players won't get to see the content, no. |
| 23:47.50 | Camci | i aint really complaining its too easy, we are doing hardmodes every week anyway. but still, leading a guild, leading the raids for months, doing all that hassle you have to do to raid, ofcourse its for fun, but still, then a patch comes out and someone that havent done a single raid in their whole wowlife will be able to get T8 just like that |
| 23:48.08 | Hirsute | Camci: So what? |
| 23:48.12 | Tristanian | Hirsute that argument is flawed |
| 23:48.19 | Hirsute | Tristanian: No, it isnt. |
| 23:48.20 | Camci | i just dont see that being fair, thats all :p |
| 23:48.20 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Camci: the fact that it bothers you means its probably a good idea. :) |
| 23:48.21 | Tristanian | the normal modes are very much attainable |
| 23:48.26 | Tristanian | by almost anyone |
| 23:48.36 | Tristanian | and they are becoming easier and easier |
| 23:48.51 | Shefki | Camci: You know back in the day I had a Plasma TV when they were rare. It's just not fair that I spent all that money to have it and now every idiot can walk into Best Buy and get one for a couple hundred bucks. |
| 23:49.07 | Tristanian | there is really nothing stopping any "casuals" of seeing at least 90% if not all of the current content |
| 23:49.08 | VonhintenHOME` | There's definitely something to be said for high gear turn over watering down the sense of accomplishment in getting the gear... |
| 23:49.32 | VonhintenHOME` | But, that's their goal I think... make Achievements the accomplishment |
| 23:49.34 | Hirsute | Good! |
| 23:49.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | the gear shouldn't be related to the accomplishment though |
| 23:49.49 | NightHawkTheSan1 | except as a means to an end. |
| 23:49.50 | Shefki | VonhintenHOME`: But it's not worth making the game incrensingly narrow in acceessibility to the newest content in exchange for that. |
| 23:49.53 | Hirsute | Gear epeening was one of the most retarded things I've ever seen. |
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| 23:50.03 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Hirsute: s/was/is/ |
| 23:50.23 | Hirsute | NightHawkTheSan1: I don't see much of it any more, thankfully. |
| 23:50.25 | Shefki | The gear resets makes the game accessible to new players. |
| 23:50.32 | Shefki | Which ultimately is important to the top end guilds. |
| 23:50.35 | Shefki | Because peopel burn out. |
| 23:50.35 | Hirsute | Just a lot of people whining that they can't do it any more. |
| 23:50.39 | Shefki | You have to replace people. |
| 23:50.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Hirsute: you don't see it viciously overflowing in this conversation? :P |
| 23:50.54 | Shefki | If nobody can catch up then the top end narrows more and more and the community dies. |
| 23:50.55 | VonhintenHOME` | I agree Shefki, absolutely... a guild could never catch up unless they started each new content patch with BiS from the previous |
| 23:50.57 | Hirsute | NightHawkTheSan1: Nah, just a lot of people complaining that they can't really do it anymore. |
| 23:51.43 | VonhintenHOME` | In fact, I'm one of the best geared rogues on my server, and I have Naxx25's ease to thank for it... |
| 23:51.48 | Shefki | If you want to see an example of a game that works that way go log into FFXI. |
| 23:52.01 | Shefki | Try to actually do anything that's relevent with a fresh 75. |
| 23:52.09 | Shefki | You might get to do something in a couple years of catching up. |
| 23:52.37 | Camci | You are right Shefki |
| 23:52.40 | Camci | it gives new ppl |
| 23:52.46 | Camci | better chance to catch up |
| 23:52.59 | Camci | i agree, but not so damn high end gear |
| 23:53.07 | NightHawkTheSan1 | it wont be high end gear, though |
| 23:53.12 | Tristanian | I don't understand the gear argument tbh, there will always be discrepancies in gear, as long as person X spends more time in the game |
| 23:53.12 | Camci | its just way to soon, in my opinion |
| 23:53.17 | NightHawkTheSan1 | it'll be tier-ago gear |
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| 23:53.37 | Camci | it has NOTHING to do with time spent, what the hell are you talking about lol? |
| 23:53.40 | Camci | with current content? |
| 23:53.41 | Camci | time? |
| 23:53.43 | Camci | you serius? |
| 23:53.47 | Shefki | Even if they gave everyone in the game free T8 which they aren't... |
| 23:53.51 | Tristanian | I was speaking in general |
| 23:53.58 | Shefki | There would still be people with better gear if they'd been raiding. |
| 23:54.09 | Tristanian | exactly |
| 23:54.23 | Shefki | Hell tier gear is bloody easy to get. |
| 23:54.27 | Tristanian | but the gap is certainly a lot smaller |
| 23:54.31 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Shefki: and it wont take long for the more serious raiders to get the next tier of gear |
| 23:54.32 | Shefki | The rings, trinkets, necks, capes etc... are a bloody pain. |
| 23:55.10 | Shefki | And if you look at what they put on the badge vendors it's always ok... It's always roughly equal to previous tier bis... But the drop stuff is always better. |
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| 23:56.23 | Tristanian | they even put tier pieces on them :p |
| 23:58.15 | Camci | god so hot :P |
| 23:58.22 | Camci | fucking 25 degres here |
| 23:58.33 | Tristanian | 25 degrees is hot ? :P |
| 23:59.11 | sztanpet | in celsius at night? |
| 23:59.23 | sztanpet | id consider that hot yes |
| 23:59.30 | Camci | idd |
| 23:59.31 | Tristanian | I declare that anything below 30-35 is pretty okish |
| 23:59.38 | Tristanian | :p |
| 23:59.39 | Camci | :/ |
