IRC log for #wowace on 20090622

00:00.19ckknightit really depends on what it's doing
00:00.23pakozi'm on a flight path, elk buff bars is constantly 1.5% +
00:00.59ckknightoverall, the statistic you should care about is your FPS
00:01.14ckknightif the addon lowers your FPS drastically, it might be time to rethink
00:01.20Xinhuanonly during a flight path?
00:01.23Xinhuanor what
00:01.29ckknightbut if it doesn't to a degree which you care about, it shouldn't matter
00:01.39pakozi was bored on the flight path - so i turned on cpu profiling
00:01.50pakozso this is the only time i've ever observed it
00:02.24Xinhuanwell i generally consider buff bars a waste of screen space anyway ;p
00:02.41Xinhuanthe default UI one is compact and nice already, though not as compact as some ppl would like
00:02.45waallenyou can filter them nicely though and they can actually be useful
00:02.53Xinhuancompared to a block of 20 bars eating 1/4 of your screen
00:03.04waallenbut specially in WOTLK and with the raid-wide buffs, I agree that they can eat so much space
00:03.05pakozi have groups of buffs so i can maximize dps
00:03.39Xinhuanstep back for a moment though, and consider whether you really need something like that
00:03.43waallenI just switched from EBB to SBF and sorted out the groups http://pici.se/428076/?size=fullsize
00:04.05Repo10broker-recount-statistics: 03Tristanian * r3 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Properly localized tooltip stats table.
00:04.08Repo- Implemented slash command handler.
00:07.14pakozwaallen what about SBF made you drop EBB?
00:08.57waallenI like trying out new addons so there is no real reason there but since in my mind the aura parsing addons are the most expensive one performance wise, I wanted to check how SBF relates to EBB (I used to have framerate stuttering at the iron council)
00:09.51orionshockwaallen: try DynPref if ur having frame rate issues
00:09.56waallentoday on Freya I could notice that SBF used much less memory than EBB which jumped over 1MB during fights even if that doesnt really say much but I swear I could feel a difference
00:10.52orionshockwaallen: memory useage has little impact on performance unless it's an increasing memory and in large quantities
00:11.17waallenorionshock: it usually doesn't drop below 30FPS, it's just a matter of stuttering on some encounters (assembly of iron in particular)
00:11.35Tristanianand that still has zero to do with memory usage
00:11.51waallenyeah, when I said that it felt better I meant that it seemed less stuttery
00:11.52orionshockprolly combat log parsing, have u tried turnning off the blizzard combat log?
00:12.13Tristanianaddons that store stuff based on combat log are usually "expensive" ye
00:12.21waallenno, I haven't
00:12.34orionshocksetup the blizzard combat log filters to show nothing at all
00:12.38waallenI noticed that I had PB4 raid/party and pet frames enabled even if they were hidden
00:12.53waallenremoving them (since I use grid) and disabling them seems to have fixed the issue to be honest
00:13.03Tristanianthat makes sense tbh
00:13.04waallenI'll try that next time
00:13.20waallenI also disabled a bunch of auras I added to grid
00:13.26orionshockhas anyone thought about making purl (the bot here) into a wow addon?
00:13.33waallensince there is a lot of buffing/debuffing going on at that fight
00:13.35Tristanian:o
00:13.40Tristaniancan that be done orion ? :p
00:13.51orionshockya, they have trivia bots
00:14.01Tristanianah yes, like that
00:14.12Hjalteorionshock: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9780-AGT-AutomaticGoblinTherapist.html :p
00:14.21orionshocklol
00:14.39HjalteIt's not exactly what you want, but it's a great addon anyway.
00:14.49Tristanianwhat a name :p
00:14.52orionshockto piss ppl off
00:18.24Axodioussigh @ redoing grid1 >_<
00:18.32Axodiousbeen putting this off for like 3 or 4 months
00:19.09Axodiousdebuffs stopped showing up for some reason talked to someone about it apparently my year old grid config borked it :(
00:19.24Axodiousi think i finished copying it though >_<
00:22.09Axodioushm
00:22.18Axodiouswasn't there an option for click through background in grid1?
00:22.22Axodiouscant find it :s
00:23.20Groktari think i've seen it
00:23.35Groktarshudders every time he has to go into the grid configuration
00:24.23Axodiouswell, i was waiting for grid2 to gain a few more features i used in grid1, but with azetoth having to slow down i decided to redo it
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00:26.24Groktarorly? i thought grid2 was completely dead
00:26.28waallenI just installed that addon Hjalte and a random whispered me as soon as I loggedin
00:26.34waallenhe's still speaking with it :D
00:26.46HjalteNice one.
00:28.31Axodiousgah
00:28.32Axodiouscant find it
00:28.33Axodious!
00:29.42waallenorionshock: will turning out events from the blizzard combat log cause them not appearing in the /combatlog one?
00:29.45waallenif that even makes sense
00:30.39pakozorionshock, pm
00:31.46Axodiousdoes anyone know where the click through frames option is in grid1? >_>
00:32.10Repo10shadowedunitframes_smoothbars: 03Antiarc 07master * f996897 animations.lua: [+1 commit] Fix some errant globals
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00:33.28waallenAxodious: do you know if it's even possible to set that? I've been looking for it for a while and I can't find it either
00:33.37Axodiousi believe i use to have it set
00:33.42Axodiousalmost sure of it
00:35.57Axodiousyeah i've even got it in my backed up config
00:36.01Axodious["ClickThrough"] = true,
00:36.59Axodioussomeone reported it as a ticket
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00:47.38Axodiouswaallen looks like it was removed for some reason :(
00:48.17waallenit would have been a weird functionality for grid's purpose anyway
00:48.36Axodiousi used it, had the background set to transparent
00:53.31Axodiousaha
00:53.33Axodiousfound it waallen
00:53.36Axodiousseems to be a bug
00:53.43waallenoh, nice :)
00:53.49Axodiouslock the frame, then go to advanced under layout and uncheck hide tab
00:53.58Axodiouspermanently hiding the tab seems to reverse it
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01:26.52Antiarcwhat the shit mod is it that makes a sheep sound when a hibernate is broken
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01:39.17SqueeGbastage alliance
01:39.58SqueeGawwwwwww no way
01:40.04SqueeGi got the flame and never even noticed >.<
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02:11.26RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bindmanager/. BindManager. aircanada_arygos (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
02:11.31RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/flame-warden/. Flame Warden. foxlit (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
02:11.36RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-recount-statistics/. Broker Recount Statistics. Tristanian (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
02:11.41RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/shadowedunitframes_smoothbars/. ShadowedUnitFrames_SmoothBars. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
02:11.46RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/flame-turn/. Flame Turn In. Trellmor (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
02:12.05SqueeGwth
02:12.16TorhalFoof.
02:12.16SqueeGtorhal is reviewing addons now?
02:12.20SqueeGthe world is gonna end :p
02:12.29Torhal<PROTECTED>
02:12.31Torhal:D
02:12.38SqueeGnooooooooes
02:12.52SqueeGDid you see my new special skin for wowace? ^^
02:13.05TorhalNo, just got home from work.
02:13.16SqueeGwork on a sunday?
02:13.25TorhalAye
02:13.30SqueeG>.< ouchies
02:13.41pakozoh wow wowace got a make over
02:13.59pakoz4.0 install for curse? i cant find a 4.0 client
02:14.25TorhalSqueeG: If you're talking about that Hello Kitty bullshit, you showed me last night. My brain still hurts.
02:14.34SqueeGahahaha
02:14.42SqueeGAwwww
02:14.49SqueeGwhy so cranky torhal? T_T
02:15.04SqueeGI spent a whole 20 minutes putting together that special logo!
02:15.17SqueeGholy fuck i hate the alliance
02:15.25TorhalI'm not. I'm just apprehensive about any new themes from you. You've already tried to make my eyes bleed, then you showed me Hello Kitty stuff.
02:15.37SqueeG^___________^
02:15.42SqueeGCkk requested hello kitty
02:15.57SqueeGor... someone he was talking to did
02:15.58Torhalckknight is consumed with evil thoughts, though.
02:16.03SqueeG=D
02:16.15ckknightI wouldn't say consumed.
02:16.32TorhalPermeated?
02:16.44SqueeGchock full of
02:16.45ckknightI am become death, devourer of worlds, amirite?
02:16.45Endckknight is frosted with evil thoughts.
02:16.50TorhalHeh
02:18.07SqueeGthe ebst thing about initially running into an enem city
02:18.19SqueeGis running past the first few people
02:18.41SqueeGaw
02:18.49SqueeGonly drew 3 people that time =(
02:19.47SqueeGanyhoo, normally the first few people are kind of like "did... did i.. was that a horde?"
02:22.15SqueeGckknight, how many hours of sleep do you actually alot yourself?
02:22.51ckknightI tend to sleep from either midnight or 1 until 8 AM
02:22.54ckknightso that's 7-8 per night
02:22.57ckknightish
02:23.03ckknightsometimes it gets jostled up
02:23.05ckknightlike on weekends
02:23.12ckknightI stayed up until 3:30 and then woke up at 8:30
02:23.12SqueeGxD
02:23.18SqueeGholy balls
02:23.34SqueeGif i'm up to 3 i'm sleeping to noon xD
02:24.37ckknightI find sleep to be a burden
02:25.56SqueeGy'know... people are being really boring with their themes
02:26.35ckknighthehe
02:26.35ckknightwell
02:26.39ckknightI plan on documenting
02:26.43ckknightand adding attachments
02:26.51ckknightand probably releasing my whole sass suite
02:26.55SqueeGaye, i saw you mention that last night
02:26.57ckknightso that people can check it out and make suggestions
02:27.11SqueeGsass suite O-o
02:27.14ckknightnot like there's trade secrets in the sass I'm trying to protect
02:27.20SqueeGlol
02:27.26ckknightSqueeG: well, the theme is just prepended to about 20 sass files
02:29.21ckknightand although it'd be cool to have all of it be a theme in its own right, I'm not sure how best to do that
02:29.25ckknightor even if it's a good idea
02:30.26SqueeGhm
02:30.47SqueeGso sass allows themeing with css styles but prevents people from restructuring the site via css?
02:31.25ckknightsass is just a css metalanguage
02:31.32ckknightthat is compiled into css
02:31.46ckknightit has features like macros, function calls, and variables
02:31.54ckknightwhich make it a lot nicer than plain css
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02:33.53SqueeG_sweet ma-mma jamma, bsod ftl
02:36.24Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5725 Ulduar/Kologarn.lua: BigWigs: Ulduar/Kologarn:
02:36.27Repo- Better eyebeam detection
02:36.30Repo- Fix respawn arms timer
02:41.25CodayusHmm, sass looks neat.   Hadn't heard of it before.
02:41.49CodayusHm, only has a ruby implementation?  Bleh.
02:51.44ckknighthow is that relevant?
02:51.45ckknightreally
02:51.52ckknightit compiles
02:52.13Torhalckknight: It isn't written in COBOL, and therefore must be shite.
02:52.51TorhalBesides, I don't trust anything that won't run on a TRS-80.
02:54.34SqueeGREX =p
02:56.14SqueeGtorhal... what kind of positive numbers are people suppose to be looking for in geargauge?
02:56.35Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5726 Ulduar/YoggSaron.lua:
02:56.38RepoBigWigs: Ulduar/Yogg-Saron: Remove Malady Say. Does not work.
03:02.37maqrTorhal: geargauge doesn't seem to calculate any score for furious gear, not sure why
03:05.30TorhalSqueeG: Entirely up to them - what they're using it for, etc.
03:06.13Torhalmaqr: Hmm.
03:06.13SqueeGhrm
03:06.13TorhalSqueeG: Like, a guild may decide on a minimum score to enter Ulduar.
03:06.13Torhalshrugs.
03:06.13SqueeGgotcha
03:06.49SqueeGahahahaha
03:06.54SqueeG<3 phanx
03:06.55SqueeGThat's like saying "some guy in Japan made a car run on urine, I'm just going to pee in my car instead of filling up the tank with gasoline" and expecting to work without any other changes.
03:07.50SqueeGi shouldn't have played MSI in the car today >.<
03:07.57SqueeGfuckign songs get stuck in my head for weeks
03:08.38Torhalmaqr: It doesn't calculate any of it?
03:10.25maqrTorhal: doesn't seem to, i'll check after raid, i just saw you here and figured i'd mention it
03:11.14maqrTorhal: oh, actually, it does seem to now... weird, it didn't a day or two ago
03:11.17maqrnevermind :)
03:11.24Codayusckknight: Ah, really?  Fair enough then.
03:11.53ckknightCodayus: yea, you compile the sass to css and you're good to go
03:12.09ckknightif you have static sass (unlike wowace, since it has theming), you can just compile locally and deploy the compiled css
03:12.13ckknightI had done that previously
03:12.19CodayusThe page I was looking at seemed to imply that if you wanted to use it with a non-rails project you'd be out of luck.  Although in retrospect, I probably should have realized that didn't make sense.
03:12.52ckknightCodayus: curseforge is written in python.
03:12.53ckknight:P
03:13.00CodayusI know.
03:13.14SqueeGy'know... when i first started looking into addons xperl was something people shunned
03:13.20CodayusBut I didn't *entirely* think through the implications of that, vis-a-vis my assumptions about sass.
03:13.31CodayusWhat can I said, it's too early in the um....afternoon.
03:13.33SqueeGBut... I've seen it lately and it's not terrible
03:13.43Codayus...s/said/say/, and I'm going to stop typing now.
03:14.03SqueeGtypos are like misspeaking
03:14.09SqueeGit just makes the conversation more interesting
03:14.37ckknightthe way wowace does it (currently, may change later) is that it compiles it by calling the sass binary, gets the results, shoves it into memcached
03:15.27SqueeGbesides the fact that the hellowowace theme is very... pink
03:15.32SqueeGI don't think it looks that bad O-o
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03:20.57SqueeGquestion! *raises hand*
03:21.08Torhal42.
03:21.16SqueeGI have a project that the original author disappeared a long time ago on
03:21.27SqueeGand fan updates have only been for 'art'
03:21.40SqueeGif i tried committing it to curse would i be stabbed in the eye?
03:21.48SqueeGI've made change beyond 'art' :p
03:21.51SqueeGchanges*
03:21.59TorhalWhich addon?
03:22.51SqueeGsquidmod
03:23.11SqueeGI was going to polish it and upload it but i didn't want to step on toes :3
03:23.49ckknightdepends
03:23.54ckknighton the license
03:23.58ckknightwhat the author has said
03:24.31TorhalDid you try e-mailing SAM/Frostsquid?
03:24.41TorhalI'm downloading the original now to see if there's a license text
03:25.05SqueeGhis site was gone last time i checked
03:25.29SqueeGthere's no license that i've seen
03:26.05TorhalYah - there's no license.
03:26.12SqueeGit's been out since vanilla
03:26.18ckknightall rights reserved, then?
03:26.23TorhalLast updated 1549 days ago.
03:26.26TorhalYes.
03:26.29ckknightwth
03:26.29TorhalNo license.
03:26.37ckknightthat's like 4 years
03:26.40TorhalIndeed.
03:26.40SqueeGas i said
03:26.41ckknightlua> 1549 / 365
03:26.41lua_botckknight: 4.2438356164384
03:26.44SqueeGit's been out since vanilla
03:26.45Groktarhey, completely the wrong channel, but you know those stupid drop down javascript menus? how do people make them appear/disappear correctly on mouseover? like, making it pop up in the right spot is easy enough, but if i use onmouseover to make it disappear, as soon as i mouseover to the menu it'll just disappear.
03:27.30ckknightGroktar: you gotta make it so that hovering over the menu doesn't make em disappear. Also: that doesn't require javascript, just CSS. IE6 would still require JS, though
03:28.08Groktarhrm
03:28.27Groktari didn't realize i could do that in css
03:28.36Groktari guess i see how it would work those
03:28.38Groktar*tho
03:28.39SqueeGIE6 indabut
03:28.52Arrowmastereverybody ignores CSS and abuses the fuck out of javascript
03:28.59TorhalSqueeG: Did you try e-mailing sam@asymmetric-art.com?
03:29.15SqueeGi never tried emailing him since the domain was... gone
03:29.17SqueeGlike 2 years ago
03:29.24TorhalI just went to the page
03:29.30TorhalThere's no SquidMod section though
03:29.34TorhalBut that site exists.
03:29.50TorhalMay be new owners, may not.
03:30.02SqueeGoh hey it exists now? =o
03:30.28SqueeGerm
03:30.32SqueeGyou sure that's a real site?
03:30.33Arrowmasterhttp://whois.domaintools.com/asymmetric-art.com
03:30.38Arrowmasterit never expired
03:31.29Arrowmasternever mind
03:31.31Arrowmaster"Buy Now: This domain is listed for sale for $450.00 at BuyDomains"
03:32.08TorhalWeird. The page itself doesn't look like a squatter page
03:32.16Arrowmasteralthough the record shows it was first registered in 2002 and has never expired so its just the registar being shitty douche bags and holding it
03:32.19SqueeGnot until you click a link =/
03:32.20Arrowmasteroh really?
03:32.31TorhalOh
03:32.38TorhalNOW it looks like a squatter page
03:32.40TorhalBah
03:32.56SqueeGxD
03:33.23TorhalBTW: Looks like WoWI let ganders take it over on their site.
03:33.23Arrowmasterlooked like a squater page to me at first anyway
03:33.48Torhalhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8659-SquidMod.html
03:33.58TorhalUpdated like a year ago
03:34.00SqueeGyea he never responded to me
03:34.03TorhalAh
03:34.16SqueeGAnd the other "fan update" guy replied witha  weird message
03:34.30TorhalWeird?
03:34.35SqueeGI asked if I could take it over or have him upload my changes, and all i got was "yea that's cool"
03:34.46TorhalHaha
03:34.49SqueeGffs man, which are you agreeing to >.<
03:36.22TorhalSqueeG: Hell, man, why don't you just roll-your-own?
03:36.33TorhalThe code is insanely simple, and in dire need of a rework anyway.
03:36.38SqueeGI know
03:37.33SqueeGBut people kind of know the name, so I figured why change it
03:38.18Arrowmasterif you are rewriting the code then theres no copyright issue on that part
03:38.48TorhalThere isn't much to rewrite - it's almost like someone copyrighting an if-else chain.
03:38.54SqueeGxD
03:39.06SqueeGthere are a few changes that could be made
03:39.10SqueeGand I expanded it for ldb
03:39.10TorhalAye.
03:39.22TorhalLike RegisterForSave isn't needed anymore.
03:39.38Arrowmastermore like shouldnt that be causing it to error?
03:39.45TorhalThe xml file is completely unnecessary and tiny to boot
03:40.03SqueeGmmm that's a dated version
03:40.07TorhalArrowmaster: I'm looking at the original version.
03:41.49SqueeGTorhal: how the hell did you DL that from curse xD
03:41.57SqueeGit doesn't even show up there any more
03:42.40TorhalI got it from wowui
03:42.42Torhal:D
03:44.04SqueeGO_o
03:58.04SqueeGwow arrowmaster
03:58.28Arrowmaster?
03:58.48SqueeGyour revert for libshared media r55 xD
03:59.19SqueeGthe commit message is quite.... colorufl
03:59.21SqueeGcolorful*
04:00.53Arrowmasterhmm
04:01.02Arrowmastersvn log doesnt show that
04:01.54SqueeGrevert commit 54 by FUCKING DUMBASS Jncl, NEVER TOUCH THIS PROJECT AGAIN FUCKING DUMBASS
04:02.49Arrowmasterr55 | arrowmaster | 2008-10-28 07:11:06 -0400 (Tue, 28 Oct 2008) | 1 line
04:02.49Arrowmasterrevert commit 54, restore lib.xml
04:02.59Arrowmastersomebody seems to have done some history rewriting
04:03.07SqueeGno no..
04:03.15SqueeGr55 | arrowmaster | 2008-10-28 11:11:06 +0000 (Tue, 28 Oct 2008) | 1 line
04:03.15SqueeGChanged paths:
04:03.15SqueeG<PROTECTED>
04:03.15SqueeGrevert commit 54 by FUCKING DUMBASS Jncl, NEVER TOUCH THIS PROJECT AGAIN FUCKING DUMBASS
04:03.18SqueeGthat's the whole thing
04:03.24SqueeGhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/libsharedmedia-3-0/files/19-2/
04:03.31Arrowmasterright
04:03.40Arrowmasterbut look at the real svn log
04:04.07NightHawkTheSaneooh, revisionist svn history. conspiracy!
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04:05.34Arrowmastersvn log -v -c 55 svn+ssh://svn@svn.wowace.com/wow/libsharedmedia-3-0/mainline
04:05.36SqueeGall i can see is the changelog >.>
04:06.11Arrowmasterckknight: who the hell has been editing my svn commit messages!
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04:07.25ckknightI'm confused
04:07.35SqueeGtbh that doesn't sound like arrowmaster :p
04:07.52ckknightthe yelling one? that does sound like Arrowmaster
04:07.56SqueeGeh
04:08.03SqueeGwhen he yells he's more coherent
04:08.09Arrowmasterno that was me
04:08.12Arrowmasterim 100% sure
04:08.19NightHawkTheSanei dunno, i could have sworn he used more profanity
04:08.21Arrowmasterim always mean to jncl
04:08.25orionshockArrowmaster: yelling; that's normal for him when unfucking something :)
04:08.29SqueeGMore profanity yes
04:08.40SqueeGbut looping like that?
04:09.31SqueeGunless you were quite flustered at the time
04:09.34Arrowmasteri was yelling and making sure it was clear that Jncl is a FUCKING DUMBASS because his commit majorly broke embeds
04:09.43SqueeGxD
04:10.00SqueeGit's amusing either way
04:10.31SqueeGi was just trolling along and bam, i see tht
04:10.32SqueeGthat*
04:10.34ckknightI have a question to pose:
04:10.54SqueeG=o
04:10.56Arrowmasteri should have just site banned him for intentionally making a destructive change to a project he doesnt have permission to edit, perty sure i was a mod at that time
04:10.57orionshocksomeone (i could) should write a common methods and practices KB article about setting up projects and libs wrt to how the CF system handles it
04:10.58ckknightwhat would you do if you had no family, friends, or possessions?
04:11.18ckknightsay you were just released from a mental hospital or something
04:11.30orionshockI'd even write it and email it in for review
04:11.32SqueeGnot even enough money to go toa  diner?
04:11.52Shirikwhere is the pasta man
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04:12.04ckknightlet's say you have $100
04:12.07ckknightthat's it, though
04:12.14SqueeGi'd go to a diner
04:12.27ckknightnot a bad idea, actually
04:12.35SqueeGseriously, that was the first thing that popped into my head xD
04:12.35NightHawkTheSanei'd go to ckk's mom.
04:12.45NightHawkTheSanebut i dont know what i'd do with the other $95
04:12.57ckknightNightHawkTheSane: that violates the no friends or family thing
04:13.01ckknightas in you don't know anybody
04:13.14ckknightalso, my mom is a bit more classy than that
04:13.29SqueeG15 dolla?
04:19.58Groktar416 dorrah!
04:20.03Groktarer
04:20.05Groktarmeant 16
04:20.08Groktarwhoops
04:20.09SqueeGlol
04:21.03ckknightteh colors
04:21.28TorhalFucking SWEET.
04:21.45Torhalorionshock: WIne 1.1.24 -  Bugfix: 15925  World of Warcraft: Extreme FPS drop since 3.0.2
04:22.02ckknightdrop?
04:22.17ckknightoh, it fixed the FPS drop
04:22.21TorhalAye.
04:24.31Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5727 Ulduar/YoggSaron.lua:
04:24.34RepoBigWigs: Ulduar/Yogg-Saron: Add a skull over the Guardian with Empowering Shadows.
04:27.27Gnarfoznow that's fucking useless, it already get's a Hunter's Mark style symbol and turns freaking PURPLE
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04:29.38orionshockTorhal: when did that come out?
04:29.44Torhalorionshock: Today.
04:29.50orionshockoooh
04:29.57orionshocklooks like i'll be updating that.
04:30.20orionshockTorhal: i also noticed a great improvement with updating to the nvidia 185 drivers too :)
04:32.14Torhalorionshock: Same here. Though I still have to put my view distance to just under half or I get frequent graphical corruption and WoW crashes
04:32.32orionshocki have mine all the way down any higher and the fps dies
04:35.26sylvanaarhrm, im almost scared to ask this...but which build of win7 x64 is the most current
04:35.37sylvanaaryes i googled
04:35.45ajmitchTorhal: from what I was reading on the bug, it was mostly that the consensus was that things were faster with current wine versions, which I've found to be a load of crap
04:36.58sylvanaar"most current" -> "safe to install"
04:37.34Gnarfozsylvanaar: the RC, probably
04:37.46sylvanaari guess
04:38.09sylvanaari have the RC 7100, and 7229 i just got.
04:38.35Gnarfozyou have access to secret stuffs :O
04:38.42sylvanaarnot really
04:39.52SqueeGlies!
04:40.00sylvanaar7232 is another
04:40.03SqueeGgdi
04:40.11SqueeGi need to remember to change my skin back to not pink
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04:46.22Stanzillasylvanaar: 7260
04:46.23SqueeGwtf happened to WoWI
04:46.43Stanzillabut no need to update now
04:46.46ckknighthow do you mean, SqueeG?
04:46.49Stanzillartm will be leaked in the next few days
04:47.01Torhalajmitch: That is a load of crap. I've also updated and see no difference from what I had before.
04:47.11SqueeGIt seems.... wider
04:47.36SqueeGand off center
04:47.51sylvanaarx54
04:47.53sylvanaarx64
04:48.21SqueeGand i coulda sworn the login area was in the upper right
04:49.35sylvanaarthe x64 was 7232, and x86 was 7260, anyhow - can you activate the later builds with your RC key Stanzilla?
04:50.26SqueeGcould just be me, ckknight, i'm tired and it's been a while since i've been to wowi, i've been.... aloof the past few weeks
04:50.37ckknightonly the last few weeks?
04:50.54SqueeGhey a lot has happened apparently :p
04:51.46SqueeGfuck it's almost 1
04:51.48SqueeGnight!
04:53.01sylvanaarStanzilla have you win7 recognize a SSD drive and disable superfetch, defrag, and readyboot?
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05:11.19Stanzillasylvanaar: I don't have a ssd :(
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05:16.33sylvanaar=(
05:16.40sylvanaarwhat the heck is this?
05:16.42sylvanaarhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443310827&sid=1
05:17.43Endit's fail
05:18.37sylvanaarthats helpful
05:19.20Repo10shadowedunitframes_smoothbars: 03Antiarc 07master * 64d9985 animations.lua: [+1 commit] Unregister animations so CPU usage doesn't blow goats
05:22.13TorhalAntiarc: Poor goats.
05:25.50Groktarsets fire to Torhal
05:30.44VonhintenHOME`Speaking of putting skulls on things heads, is it just me, or is there a conflict between BigWigs and DBM on Freya
05:30.55VonhintenHOME`one uses a skull, the other an X, for the same thing?
05:32.36Fiskerslaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout
05:32.47GroktarHAI FISKER
05:33.28Fiskertoday is the day
05:33.50Stanzillajudgement day?
05:34.08Fiskerno
05:34.12FiskerSC2 day
05:34.24Groktarsc2 day?
05:34.33Groktarhrm?
05:34.46ckknighttoday is the day of aquarius
05:36.16Groktarboggle
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05:38.16Groktarsends a zergling army after ckknight
05:39.40ckknightwarps in 12 Photon Cannons
05:40.12Groktardoesn't understand why a crapton of zerglings doesn't work 20 minutes in
05:40.32Stanzillahttp://www.withinwindows.com/2009/06/19/uxstyle-core-beta-bits-now-available/ < cool
05:41.06Fiskerno
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05:44.51Stanzillawhat no Fisker
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05:49.00Fiskerno Stanzilla
05:49.14Stanzillano your mum
05:56.14Fiskerno Stanzilla
05:57.17Stanzillaalright
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06:02.12Torhal!api GetTop
06:02.12lua_botFound 2 possible results for 'GetTop': Region:GetTop, lua_gettop
06:02.23Torhal!api Region:GetTop
06:02.23lua_botRegion:GetTop: Returns the distance in pixels between the bottom of the screen and the top of the Region. (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/GetTop)
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06:08.00sb|workmorning
06:12.02ckknightFisker: how is babby formed?
06:13.38Fiskeryou need to instain mother
06:14.19Repo10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta6-5-g1595cc2 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits]
06:14.22Repo1595cc2: If an item has bonuses which LibItemBonus-2.0 cannot parse, give the benefit of the doubt by assigning item-level * 0.5 as the item's points.
06:14.25Repo040c6ed: Added references to AceEvent.
06:14.28Repo2515dd2: Changed TBC_MAXLEV and WOTLK_MAXLEV to *_MINLEV, as they should have been. Changed the TBC value from 60 to 61.
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06:28.07Lukianwhy is DBM missing Emalon's enrage timer? XD
06:30.03hasteprobably because DBM is shit
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06:31.14Groktaralso, if you care enough to install a bossmod
06:31.18Groktaryou won't hit the enrage
06:31.31TorhalElkano: Yola.
06:38.52Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r200 / (3 files in 2 directories): added the new misc sets to data.lua
06:39.13Elkanomorning Torhal :)
06:41.12Groktarpounces Elkano
06:49.14TorhalElkano: I have a bit of an issue with LibQTip...
06:49.47TorhalIf you use AddSeparator on a scrolling tooltip, the separator floats above the scroll area.
06:50.41Elkanohmm?
06:50.44TorhalTo clarify: If you scroll down, the text that moves up is hidden as it should be, but the separator is not.
06:52.53TorhalI don't know if it's due to being a backdrop on the line, or if I'm not setting something on the line within AddSeparator
06:53.14TorhalI haven't really looked at it yet - I was simply wondering if you'd have an idea off the top of your head.
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06:59.45orionshockTorhal: there is quite a bit of change with the new version of wine. they did a good job with that :)
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07:14.43ElkanoTorhal, could be a problem with anchoring/parenting meaning that it's correctly anchored but not parented to the scrollchild or one of its childs
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07:16.21Hypnotoadstares deeply into Worf's eyes
07:17.00Worfmmm - Gagh!
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07:17.54Fiskerhttp://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5736/bnetbeta.jpg
07:17.55FiskerBAM
07:18.45sb|work!?!?!?
07:18.56sb|workno beta for you
07:19.01Fisker:o
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07:25.26TorhalElkano: That's possible, since I'm using AddLine() with a nil value, so _SetUpCell is never called.
07:25.32Groktarscampers off with Fisker's login
07:25.34TorhalDanke.
07:26.14Torhalorionshock: Yah, but I see no FPS increase...so they're apparently crediting the latest version with something they shouldn't have,.
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07:31.10Groktarsends a swarm of ravenous catfish to devour Kalroth
07:31.44sylvanaarwhy is the forum squishing my posts onto one line
07:32.02mitch0it hates you
07:32.52sylvanaarthats a given
07:33.18Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r223 modules/Cooldowns.lua: fix typo
07:34.38Fiskerwhy Groktar ?
07:35.35Fiskerslaps [Ammo] around a bit with a large trout
07:35.50sztanpetwee, new top gear
07:36.10Groktarshields [Ammo] from the mean ol Fisker
07:36.51hastethrows a testicle at Fisker.
07:37.16Groktarapplauds haste's initiative
07:37.18Torhalhaste: How many channels have you done that in?
07:37.36hastethree so far today
07:37.39TorhalHeh.
07:37.43hasteonly two on fisker tho'!
07:41.49pakozShefki, you around?  I'm in wintergrasp and my pitbull is spiking to ~8%  i only use player/target/tt/ttt  -  Is this normal or does it have something to do with my config?
07:41.58pakozHard to say without more detail i suppose.
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07:43.41pakoz~8% with no target or combat occuring, in the midst of combat it spiked up to ~12%
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07:44.24Fiskeri hate you haste
07:44.50hasteand your hate is inverted!
07:45.46Fiskernope
07:45.50hasteyes it is!
07:45.55FiskerNAW
07:45.56Groktarflings haste's testes at Fisker
07:46.47Fiskerslaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout
07:47.02hasteit is Fisker! You can't deny it!
07:47.05Fiskerslaps haste around a bit with a large trout
07:47.16hastevelter Fisker.
07:47.56Fiskervælter haste
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08:02.35sb|workhuh? inverted Fisker?
08:04.57orionshockpakoz: did u find dynpref eventually?
08:04.58Torhalsylvanaar: Your post is horrible. It's full of & and mangled grammar.
08:05.19Torhalsylvanaar: I dunno WTF the forum is doing, but it isn't good.
08:07.26Arrowmasterlink?
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08:08.38TorhalArrowmaster: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=281257#post281257
08:09.14Fiskeroh god i'm killing you
08:09.18Arrowmasterrofl
08:09.21TorhalFisker: MURDERER!
08:09.29Arrowmasterits been url encoded
08:09.36TorhalArrowmaster: Yah, but why?
08:09.42Arrowmasteri dont know
08:09.43TorhalAnd how?
08:09.45TorhalHeh
08:10.00Arrowmasterfrom my experience with these kinda issues it could be anything
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08:13.21Fiskerslaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout
08:13.38Fiskeryou think you can stop me
08:13.40Fiskerbut you can't
08:13.47FiskerI. AM. UNSTOPPABLE.
08:14.16Groktarstuffs a bar of pure sodium up Fisker's rectum
08:14.21Groktarthe magnificent claims victory
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08:16.20sylvanaarTorhal see it hates me
08:17.32Repo10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal * r113 LibQTip-1.0.lua:
08:17.48RepoIn CreateLine(): Make the line's parent be tooltip.scrollChild instead of tooltip, so that separators play nice with scrollable tooltips.
08:18.15Torhalsylvanaar: You don't have teh WYSIWYG editor on do you?
08:18.21Adirelle|workI can imagine what happened before that change :)
08:18.26Torhals/teh/the/
08:18.36TorhalAdirelle|work: Heh. Free-floating separators. :)
08:19.36sylvanaaridk, im using firefox...
08:19.51sylvanaarthats all thats different
08:20.07Adirelle|workthere's a  WYSIWYG editor ?
08:20.09sylvanaaryes
08:20.12sylvanaarits nice
08:20.16TorhalYah, in the forum settings
08:20.23sylvanaarcut & paste in color
08:21.06sylvanaarso yes i am
08:21.23TorhalJust wondering if somehow it's munging things.
08:21.29Adirelle|workoh, I'm using the standard one, I can't stand  WYSIWYG editor
08:21.43TorhalI tried the WYSIWYG for about an hour once.
08:21.56TorhalAll of the unintentional things ruined it for me.
08:22.11sylvanaarif you post mostly plaintext - its a moot point
08:23.20sylvanaari think its cool, because it will take the bbcode or whatever you use, and render it, and then let you copy/paste sections out of it
08:23.44sylvanaarincluding the formatting
08:23.50pakozorionshock: i checked curse wowace and wowinterface - no dice
08:24.56pakozanyone know if i can use dogtag w/ pitbull to show my remaining flight time (in the health bar) when flying?
08:24.58Torhal@project dynperf
08:24.59RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/projects/dynperf/. DynPerf. Game: WoW. Adirelle (Manager/Author). Updated: 40 days ago
08:25.05Torhalpakoz: ^^
08:25.34pakozah i, orion was using Pref instead of Perf
08:25.40pakozi dont even know what it does yet - lets see
08:25.49VonhintenHOME`Anyone tried America's Army 3 yet?
08:27.04pakozinteresting - afraid it would cause some issues on boss fights
08:28.02Torhalpakoz: Why?
08:28.17TorhalIt has a setting to disable changes during combat.
08:28.35VonhintenHOME`pakoz, dunno about dogtags, but you probably could easily with LuaTexts
08:29.01TorhalProvided that you could hook into an addon which had the flight time information.
08:29.09TorhalThat's not part of the base API.
08:29.12pakozim not nearly clever enough
08:29.12VonhintenHOME`should be able to
08:29.29VonhintenHOME`The script environment includes the global environment
08:29.34pakozfor me then torha it would defeat the purpose
08:29.39pakozfor dynperf
08:30.06pakozi have a fairly beefy PC - but sometimes on some boss fights i lose FPS - i prefer to stay above 45fps
08:30.21pakozvezax seems to be the worst
08:30.31mitch0I'd love to stay above 20FPS :)
08:30.42TorhalVonhintenHOME`: But the WoW API has no idea about flight times. That's only available via AddOns, and the AddOn must have hookable parts of itself in the global namespace to be viable for LuaTexts.
08:31.03VonhintenHOME`well right
08:31.12mitch0in that foggy are in borean tundra (where the screen was surrounded with some glow effect) I got around 11 FPS :)
08:31.32mitch0a/are/area
08:31.33VonhintenHOME`vezax?  wierd, that fight doesn't have a whole lot going on
08:31.46VonhintenHOME`it is a big room though
08:32.22VonhintenHOME`shadow issue maybe?  is your shadows cranked up?
08:32.43Adirelle|workpakoz: actually torhal was partially right, dynperf has a setting preventing only to increase settings during combat, but it still decrease them if needed
08:32.43pakozi couldnt place my finger on it - right now im in Alterac Mountains, maxed everything except shadows (2nd lowest) 24bitcolor/24depth, 4x multisample  115fps
08:32.45sb|workoh btw, don't run bigbrother flaskcheck after entering combat :p
08:32.49sb|workit will kill your FPS :(
08:32.59sb|workuntil wow restart/reload
08:33.17pakozsb, i use RBS but it disables itself during combat
08:33.19VonhintenHOME`4x is a little unnecessary imo
08:33.43pakozi notice 1 to 2 and 2 to 4, 4 to 8 i can't tell unless i really try
08:34.07VonhintenHOME`there's a big performance hit, but not much visually different
08:34.09VonhintenHOME`I stick with 1x
08:35.23pakoznot a perfect test, but in AM with 4x i'm getting 144fps with 1x i get 150fps
08:35.44pakozgoing to be very different numbers in combat during a raid - but i dont think the ratio will change much
08:36.08mitch0pakoz: what resolution are you using? and what video card? :)
08:36.12VonhintenHOME`try while flying over grizzly hills ;)
08:36.45pakoz1920x1080  4870 512mb
08:37.22mitch0meh, I should replace my 9600pro :)
08:37.29VonhintenHOME`lawl
08:37.35VonhintenHOME`with a lawn mower
08:37.38pakoz;x
08:37.45mitch0too bad my mobo is AGP, and AGP cards are teh xpensive...
08:37.57mitch0I don't have the funds to replace the whole thing ;)
08:38.01pakozmy first computer 7 years ago (i think) had a 9800 pro
08:38.14VonhintenHOME`time for an upgrade mitch, AGP was dying 5 years ago :)
08:38.21mitch0yeah, I know
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08:38.44mitch0I'm eying a 4770 though, wonder how that compares to the 4870
08:39.52VonhintenHOME`So reading through 6 months of warhammer patch notes is not fun...
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08:52.26Groktarspanks AcTiVaTe. ooh!
08:56.19pakozAnyone here switch from grid1 to grid2?
08:57.18Tamarothstill beta :<
08:58.14Groktari didn't even know it was under development again until someone mentioned it today
08:58.23Groktari thought someone started around 2.3
08:58.29Groktarand it never went anywhere
08:59.20pakozpitbull4 is beta/alpha and still awesome ;p
08:59.38sylvanaarwow
08:59.50sylvanaarhow does someone find a bug in the chatlog module
08:59.58sylvanaarthat thing is older than dirt
09:00.25hasteyou'll be amazed what people can break
09:00.59Shefkisylvanaar: Blizzard does a pretty good job of breaking addons. :P
09:01.18Groktarnibbles on Shefki's lua
09:02.16pakozshefki - i posted a question earlier did you see it?
09:02.40pakozin this channel ,not a ticket
09:02.57orionshocksylvanaar: how does one break that module, it dosn't do anything really
09:03.07sylvanaari know
09:03.13Shefkipakoz: Changing targets a lot?
09:03.27sylvanaaris glad you see what he means
09:03.30pakoznot at all
09:03.51pakozi had no targets at all - i can't think of anything the mod was doing
09:03.57sylvanaarorionshock http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17730153591&postId=177778292148&sid=1#5
09:04.05sylvanaarorionshock theres a whole thread !
09:04.28Shefkipakoz: Hmm it's hard to say.
09:04.33pakozi have auras disabled on the player frame, debuffs and buffs both disabled - i figure it was doing something i had disabled
09:04.41pakozlike raid frames or something
09:04.54ShefkiWas there a battle going on or were you just there?
09:04.55pakozor auras
09:05.11pakozit was the start of WG - we were running toward the keep.  no combat at all
09:06.23orionshocksylvanaar: that's rather odd occurance
09:07.05sylvanaari have had no combatlog before
09:07.21sylvanaarto the point where recount didnt work
09:07.38ShefkiYup happens to me ocassionally.
09:07.39Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r5728 Ulduar (2 files in 1 directory): frFR Update
09:07.41sylvanaarbut - i think thats from running more than one wow
09:07.46pakozout of curiosity i just checked and when i have to target and i get agro it jumps to 16-20%
09:07.46ShefkiYou have to log all the way out to get it to work.
09:07.48sylvanaarfrom the same exe
09:07.54Shefkisylvanaar: Nahh it's happened to me from just one wow.
09:08.00sylvanaarhm
09:08.05sylvanaarwierd
09:08.44Fiskeri'm killing you
09:09.54VonhintenHOME`mmm, this america's army 3 download is going at ludicrous speed
09:10.00VonhintenHOME`750 KB/s
09:10.23orionshocksylv do u hook the combat/chat log functions?
09:10.57Shefkipakoz: target of target frames require timers to update.
09:10.58Torhalsylvanaar: AltNames needs fixed with regards to un-setting a main/alt. I dislike editing SavedVariables.
09:11.31Shefkipakoz: But that shouldn't really matter much.
09:11.42Shefkipakoz: I'm really not sure.
09:11.45Fiskerslaps Shefki around a bit with a large trout
09:13.27sylvanaarTorhal you can click on their name in the guild pane
09:13.31sylvanaaror
09:13.40sylvanaartype it in the options
09:14.12pakozshefki: forgive me for not being able to explain this intelligently - but is there a chance the addon is still 'doing work' for raid frames and debuffs/buffs even though i have them disabled?
09:14.16orionshocksylvanaar: i wish more addons used LibAlts - would make things easier
09:14.24sylvanaarorionshock i tried
09:14.30TorhalI'll check...I usually do it from the chatframe, and the only thing it does when I enter a blank name is set it to "" so I still see parens.
09:14.47sylvanaarthere is another command
09:15.07orionshockTorhal: that's a prat problem from the sounds of it
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09:15.36TorhalThat's what I'm using, Prat's AltNames module.
09:16.21mitch0how is the "your level +3" work with bosses in a mixed-level party?
09:16.22sylvanaari think its like /alts del
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09:16.51mitch0if a lvl60 goes in to MC with a lvl80, will the lvl60 have any chance of hitting the boss?
09:17.58Shefkipakoz: Not enough to be as much as you're saying.
09:18.31Shefkipakoz: It's really hard to say I don't know enough about what was going on around you to make an inteligent guess about what cuased it.
09:19.03VonhintenHOME`pakoz, can't you just run a profiler to test, to see if something is misbehaving?
09:19.09VonhintenHOME`It's pointless to speculate
09:19.10orionshockmitch0: it's "your Level +3", and it only applies to melee mechanics
09:19.59ShefkiVonhintenHOME`: Really if you don't know much about the internals of the addon it's difficult to find the source of the CPU time from a profiler other than X addon did it.
09:20.40mitch0ah, found the info on wowwiki
09:20.43VonhintenHOME`That's a lot more info than "help, there's something in my base killing my FPS's"
09:21.17ShefkiVonhintenHOME`: He said something about 12% I assumed he had cpu profiling turned on.
09:21.35ShefkiUnless he was talking about memory in which case, it doesn't matter.
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09:23.36RepoIn labelPrototype:SetupSell(): Set the fontstring's width always, not just when max_width is smaller than width - this should normalize the display when a previous call modified the width.
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09:24.36VonhintenHOME`Shefki, btw, the LuaTexts for Health: Absolute and percent is showing short values
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09:27.19ShefkiVonhintenHOME`: That's how the DogTag one is done.
09:27.52Shefki"[Status or (FractionalHP:Short ' || ' PercentHP:Percent)]",
09:27.59Shefki^ From the DogTag defaults.
09:28.17pakozvonh: a profiler? do go on
09:28.24VonhintenHOME`hmm, I don't remember removing the Short modifier, maybe I did
09:28.47ShefkiThere's a couple texts that are a tad odd.
09:29.01VonhintenHOME`Doesn't make much sense to me honestly, "absolute" and short don't mix :)
09:29.04ShefkiI just duplicated them in LuaTexts to make it easy for people switching.
09:29.15VonhintenHOME`understood
09:29.41ShefkiAnd most of the DogTags were copy paste jobs from PB3.
09:29.48ShefkiI've already found some stupid things in them in the past.
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09:30.21VonhintenHOME`Like "Health: Absolute short"  doesn't make sense =P
09:30.31ShefkiHell ComboPoints stuff had a funky thing for Druids that was dead code because it didn't have the variable it needed to turn it on.
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09:40.43pakozvague question to anyone who is knowledgable on the subject - is it difficult to have one program use multiple cpu cores?
09:41.31pakozMy end game on the question is, why doesn't blizzard let addons operate on a completely seperate core?  I'm highly ignorant on the subject ;\ forgive me if this is ludicrous
09:41.44VonhintenHOME`In general programming terms, I don't believe so.  Windows I know allows setting thread processor affinity
09:42.55Shefkipakoz: It's really not as simple as you think it is.
09:43.13pakozfair enough
09:43.13ShefkiAddon stuff is still tied to the frame rate because we produce stuff the game has to render.
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09:44.20VonhintenHOME`Too much of a synchronous process, nothing really to be gained by running asychronously
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09:44.42VonhintenHOME`in fact, with locking contention and all the multi-threaded complications, it could be worse
09:45.17Shefkiit's actually really really really hard to divide up a lot of tasks into smaller parts that can run at the same time.
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09:50.49pakozthats a shame  - i got this quadcore wicked cheap and i can only ever use it while encoding
09:51.00sylvanaarits always being used
09:51.48sylvanaarthe os handles distribution of work among the cores pretty well
09:52.08Shefkipakoz: WoW already has a number of threads.  That get distributed.
09:52.18sylvanaaryeah, 3
09:52.24ShefkiIt's more than 3.
09:52.44pakozit seems that only 2 of the cores are ever active while playing wow
09:52.55sylvanaarwell, wow uses 2 cores
09:53.07Shefkipakoz: So change your processAfinityMask
09:53.09sylvanaaryou can supposedly set it to use 3
09:53.33sylvanaarbut
09:53.39Shefkipakoz: /run SetCVar("processAfinityMask",8)
09:53.48sylvanaarset it to 255
09:53.52Shefkipakoz: Then quit the game and start again.
09:53.53sylvanaarlive on the edge
09:54.00pakozit caused an error
09:54.02Shefkisylvanaar: 255 is only useful for i7.
09:54.12ShefkiprocessAffinityMask
09:54.14ShefkiSorry
09:54.14sylvanaarit still works
09:55.00pakoz./run SetCVar("processAffinityMask",8)
09:55.09pakozwhats it... going to do?
09:55.12pakozi only have 4 cores
09:55.17sylvanaarnothing
09:55.21pakoz;\
09:55.29Shefkipakoz: You can play around with that number and see if it changes anything for you.
09:55.37sylvanaarmost people will see no benefit from it
09:55.38Shefkipakoz: It's a binary bit flag.
09:55.53sylvanaaryou can also set it in process manager
09:56.05sylvanaarlive
09:56.06pakozjust checking box cpu3 and 4?
09:56.20sylvanaaryeah
09:56.56pakozcan it hurt anything?
09:57.06sylvanaaryou can unset it
09:57.09sylvanaarso no
09:57.12Shefkipakoz: Not really.  But I doubt it's really gonna do much.
09:57.23sylvanaarat best your game will crash
09:57.26pakozwoo
09:57.35sylvanaarthats all you will notice
09:57.53sylvanaarif anything
09:58.37pakozim using vista 64, in the task manager there are 4 boxes each represents a cpu with a line graph displaying the usage - is that truly accurate?
09:58.45sylvanaaryes
09:59.10sylvanaarmosly idle
09:59.23pakozhmm?
09:59.52sylvanaarwhat is the cpu usage %
10:00.19sylvanaarmine is 1
10:00.34Xinhuandon't bother
10:00.54Xinhuanif you set the core mask to select more than 2 cores, wow.exe just uses the "best 2 idling cores"
10:01.07Xinhuanrather than 2 specific cores
10:01.30sylvanaarits a rather complex topic
10:02.03Fiskerslaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout
10:02.09sylvanaarbuy a SSD
10:04.12pakozhttp://yfrog.com/5gzxzxcj
10:04.15pakozi have an SSD
10:04.57mitch0buy another one and make it raid0 (or whatever raid it is that makes it fast and loose a lot of data in case one of them fails)
10:05.35pakozraid 0 is stripe, but the SSDs rarely fail - 5 year warranty on the bugger too
10:06.28ShefkiHe probably means raid 1.
10:06.33sylvanaarhe means 0
10:06.43pakozraid 1 is mirror, data redundancy
10:06.58pakozraid 0 is stripe, half the data on each for speed
10:07.01VonhintenHOME`raid0 is just striping
10:07.06sylvanaarand nothx, i dont need the hassle
10:07.17ShefkiNeither one is really useful for SSDs.
10:07.22sylvanaarjbod
10:08.01pakozit helps quite a bit on the write speeds
10:08.13sylvanaareven jbod...the performance varies alot between disks
10:08.19sylvanaarwhat?
10:08.27ShefkiStriping doesn't help on write speeds.
10:08.32ShefkiIt makes it worse.
10:08.36pakozmmm
10:08.49ShefkiBecuase you have to do the extra work of striping.
10:09.05VonhintenHOME`should be faster, if it's a hardware controller
10:09.08sylvanaarit depends on the application, stripe size, etdc
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10:09.53VonhintenHOME`writing 1/raid_size-th the data per drive
10:10.39sylvanaarstill may not make sense for ssd general use
10:11.47VonhintenHOME`For SSD I'd just leave it be, and turn off defragmenting...
10:11.51sylvanaaryep
10:11.54sylvanaarand caching
10:12.02sylvanaarand prefetching
10:12.32VonhintenHOME`and pray that drivers are written to make it all automatic and efficient
10:12.50mitch0hrmp. why does paypal insist on separate work/home phone numbers?
10:13.41VonhintenHOME`So they have more ways to contact you when they have to hire collection agencies?
10:14.00sylvanaari dont want to spend the money for another SLC, any suggestions on a good MLC SSD
10:15.34pakozthe intel mlc works well for me - but i havent been following SSDs since i bought mine
10:15.46sylvanaari have the intel SLC
10:16.07sylvanaarthier mlc's are pricey
10:16.14sylvanaarand small
10:17.19sylvanaarright now you can get 250G mlc for $700 from eg ocz
10:17.38VonhintenHOME`I'm not spending the money on SSD's until their lifetimes are improved significantly
10:17.54sylvanaarthe lifetime on SLC is pretty good
10:18.05sylvanaaron par with HD at least
10:18.08ShefkiThey have a lifetime greater than a typical HDD anyway.
10:18.22VonhintenHOME`That's only because people baby them
10:18.29sylvanaarwhat
10:18.35ShefkiUnless you're buying high end HDD's you probably won't see any lifetime differences.
10:18.51Arrowmasterimho the preformance difference (what little it is) vs the price per gig of SSD vs magnetic dont justify it yet
10:19.02sylvanaarArrowmaster you are nuts
10:19.09VonhintenHOME`I've read that installing an OS, like Windows, on an SSD will kill it in about a year
10:19.12ShefkiOr unless you're in a situation with high rewrites.
10:20.15Arrowmastersylvanaar: im also planning to get an 8 drive hardware raid controller and 8 1.5-2TB drives, capacity > preformance
10:20.29sylvanaarthe SSD was the single most significant upgrade to my pc i think in about 10 years
10:20.30ShefkiMLC is about 10,000 write cycles.  SLC is 100,000 write cycles.
10:21.09sylvanaarit is night and day
10:21.17VonhintenHOME`registry hits, pagefile hits, etc... that's a lot of rewriting on a constant basis
10:22.39sylvanaarit doesnt rewrite
10:22.44sylvanaarit writes again
10:22.53sylvanaarsomewhere else
10:22.55VonhintenHOME`I understand
10:23.01sylvanaarok
10:24.00krkaso basically the life time is disk size * cycles / write rate
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10:24.42sylvanaaroh, yeah forgot - no page file
10:25.07VonhintenHOME`still got the registry... you should see how often that fucker gets hit
10:25.19VonhintenHOME`(and I've heard running windows without a pagefile is nasty business)
10:25.20Arrowmasterand the life time in inversle related to how much you actually store on it
10:25.56sylvanaarthats true for every type of drive i have ever used
10:26.06krkaso if you have a 250 GB drive, with 100,000 write cycles, and write to it with 20 MB/s, it should last about 40 years?
10:26.20sylvanaarit has moving parts lol
10:26.31krkaassuming it doesn't overwrite in the same place
10:26.53sylvanaaroh you were asking me
10:27.36sylvanaaridk, i think after 4-5 years who cares
10:29.10sylvanaarI think when i first got it - i obsessed over the rewrite issue, but the reality is i'll replace it before that really becomes a problem
10:30.05VonhintenHOME`well, like I said, I read that it would last about a year or so with an OS on it... that was enough for me to not want to spend multiple hundreds on it
10:30.19krkai expect to keep my hard drives for more than 4-5 years (, and i already have)
10:31.13ShefkiThe machine you put an SSD in today will be obsolete by the time it dies.
10:31.32sylvanaarsingle greatest upgrade available today
10:31.50ShefkiThat said I'm happy with my Velociraptors for the time being.
10:32.47krkaupgrade for several hundred USD? i'll just get a new computer instead :P
10:32.48sylvanaari have a velo and an x25 in my machine - its silly the difference
10:32.53sylvanaari did
10:32.53VonhintenHOME`I'm using a Seagate Barracuda with Perpendicular
10:33.04sylvanaarthe new computer was...meh
10:34.58ShefkiSo I think I have the performance issue in PB4 with DogTagTexts fixed (they still kinda suck but it's closer to PB3 levels)
10:34.59sylvanaarfrom end of post to the signon prompt takes 5 seconds on SSD
10:36.36VonhintenHOME`Is the processed dogtags script cached?
10:36.43VonhintenHOME`or regen'd every reload
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10:37.43pakozHoping someone can assist me with the chatter addon -  It has a timestamp feature that can be enabled and disabled - but i want it enabled all the time but i want to be able to toggle it showing or not -  the timestamps use up a lot of real estate and I only need them occasionally.  
10:37.58pakozWhen i enable it, it does give old messages timestamps - and thats my goal
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10:38.44pakozdoesn't*
10:38.55AntiarcIt doesn't really work that way
10:39.04AntiarcYou could modify it to do that, btu it'd be obscenely expensive
10:39.16pakozhow do you mean?
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10:40.10VonhintenHOME`Could always code something to put something in front of every line, and tooltip it with timestamp
10:40.58pakoztool tip wouldnt work for me - i need to be able to copy and paste the timestamps
10:41.08VonhintenHOME`then you're hosed!
10:41.46pakoz;[
10:41.47krkacan't you just store the logs as {timestamp, message, et.c.} and have a function for outputting them?
10:42.04krkadon't see why it would necessarily be expensive
10:42.37pakozexpensive being memory/cpu?
10:49.45sylvanaaryou can write text to the logs that are already there
10:50.07sylvanaareep - wrong topic
10:50.15VonhintenHOME`wow, holy shit America's Army 3 takes a long ass time to load up...
10:52.10Groktarflails at css
10:52.51sylvanaarhere you go guys - heres my velo vs my x25 http://ssd.pastey.net/116455
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10:57.38sylvanaaryou know you can output whatever text you want to  bliz's logs by doing a switcheroo on the CHAT_type_GET right before the addmessage call
10:59.12sylvanaarstill havent found a use for it
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10:59.57VonhintenHOME`lol sylvanaar, those avg times make me pee a little
11:00.04VonhintenHOME`I'm really gonna have to think about getting an SSD
11:00.10sylvanaarsee what i mean
11:00.39sylvanaarlook how bad my WD looks
11:00.42VonhintenHOME`just throw WoW and a few other games on it...
11:01.46ElkanoFisker, I've got a song just for you :) http://rathergood.com/spacemen
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11:02.31sylvanaardo you see how the bus is nearly saturated with just one driver
11:02.33sylvanaardrive
11:05.17nevcairielthats why there is sata 3.0 now =P
11:05.23sylvanaaryeah
11:05.35sylvanaarbut, i dont have it
11:05.44nevcairielits still kinda rare to get
11:05.55nevcairielI don't think there are even drives for it yet
11:06.01sylvanaari dont think there are
11:06.16sylvanaarits 300MB/s per controller?
11:07.09nevcairielno, thats 2.0
11:07.09sylvanaarthats what i was asking
11:07.09nevcairielah
11:07.09nevcairielyeah then =P
11:07.15nevcairiel3.0 is double that
11:07.24nevcairielor well, officially they dont number it
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11:08.32krkai'll wait few more years for ssd i think
11:08.52nevcairielcurrently the intel ssds are the only ones worth getting, but they are damn pricy
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11:12.43sylvanaarthat was what i showed in my benchmark
11:12.56sylvanaarx25
11:13.22sylvanaarmaybe ill just get another one
11:13.28sylvanaaractually
11:14.25Groktaromg it's spazzing
11:14.27Groktarrofl
11:14.31Groktaris so horrible at this
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11:16.22Groktarhttp://www.guild-impulse.net/forum.php
11:16.28Groktarmouse over "forum options"
11:16.34Groktarit's having a seizure
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11:23.08sylvanaarim thinking of getting this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233075
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11:25.25sylvanaaroops http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233087
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11:26.36VonhintenHOME`so pricey for the MB
11:27.10nevcairielthe cheap ones all have that crappy jmicron controller
11:27.14nevcairieland they suck
11:27.18VonhintenHOME`yeah
11:27.29Arrowmasteri would rather have 2TB of space for that price
11:27.38Arrowmasterer 4TB
11:28.22Groktaroh god i'm dumb
11:28.27Groktari just figured out the spazzing
11:28.28Groktarrofl
11:28.44Arrowmaster?
11:28.53nevcairielonce you already have multiple TB of storage, you kinda don't need anymore
11:29.38Arrowmasteryou dont know me very well
11:30.01nevcairielold porn is boring, you know
11:30.24Groktarso i was messing around with phpbb3, and the javascript was in one template file and teh html in another
11:30.31Megalonarrow watches it for the plot!
11:30.40Groktarand i was only deleting the one with the html from the cache every time i made a change
11:30.42Groktar:S
11:31.04Groktarwas so truly bizarre behavior
11:31.17ArrowmasterGroktar: why would you willingly use phpbb?
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11:32.08Groktarseemed like a good idea at the time
11:32.22Groktarthe old guild site was in phpbb2
11:32.31Groktarso importing the old db was easy
11:32.51Groktarand doesn't vbulletin cost money?
11:32.57Arrowmasternot sure
11:33.10Arrowmasterbut almost every forum system has a phpbb importer
11:33.13Groktarhttp://www.guild-impulse.net/ <- watch your javascript error console light up
11:33.42Groktari also knew basically nothing about this html/css/php stuff when i started
11:33.49Groktarso the whole thing is a train wreck
11:34.53Groktarit seriously just took me an hour and half to do the silly dropdown menu
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11:38.52Groktari need to move these javascript functions to a separate file
11:38.57Groktarthis is too cluttered
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12:12.38Caleb|nevcairiel how likely is that mobs such as Snaplasher (Freya) and the Crusher Tentacle (Yogg-Saron) gets added to LibBabble-Boss-3.0 ?
12:13.08Caleb|I understand they are adds, not boss, but still
12:14.05nevcairieldepends if the need for it is warranted
12:14.23Caleb|I could use it, think BigWigs could use it as well
12:14.37nevcairielbigwigs doesnt need it
12:14.46nevcairielit can use the combatlog
12:14.49nevcairielno need for mob names
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12:15.24Caleb|its for the options menu, looking at the Yogg-Saron module of BigWigs it has the Crusher Tentacle localized
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12:26.53Repo10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta6-10-gcee2c5f GearGauge.lua: [+1 commit] Added opening of the list panel to the LDB dataobj via left-click. Config panel is opened via right-click.
12:27.56sb|work@describe geargauge
12:27.57Reposb|work: http://www.wowace.com/projects/geargauge/. GearGauge. A tool to appraise, estimate, or judge your equipment and the equipment of others. GearGauge assigns values to equipped items for an overall rating based upon the difference in character and item...
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12:36.18Adirelle|workis there any reason explaining why tomtom often forget the waypoint arrow position ?
12:38.47EthanCentauraiper-character settings?
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12:41.38Repo10big-wigs: 03yoshimo * r5729 Ulduar (3 files in 1 directory): deDE updates
12:42.31Adirelle|workEthanCentaurai: two characters, and it resets with the same one
12:42.58Adirelle|workBTW I place the arrow at the same place with both characters
12:44.35EthanCentauraiI don't know then... sorry
12:45.08Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Lag123 * r2114 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Add Filter categories
12:49.17Fiskerrobotusch
12:49.17yoshimothere has been a problem with talentinspection with raidbuffstatus& tiptop before. could the same problem cause http://pastebin.com/m797807a2 ?
12:49.18Fiskermsn
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12:52.50Repo10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta6-11-g31d3345 GearGauge.lua: [+1 commit] Added tooltip scaling.
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13:07.00Repo10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta6-12-g1009f95 GearGauge.lua: [+1 commit] Added level and class coloring to tooltip.
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13:15.17Repo10tourguide-midsummerfestival: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v0.1-beta-2-g5e1cabd Horde.lua: [+2 commits]
13:15.20Repo5e1cabd: Updated Kalimdor co-ordinates and added a bonfire I missed.
13:15.23Repo518f89f: The Horde guide no longer tells you to buy Azuremyst Isle (although having your own island would be cool...).
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13:16.50CheadstinaI already bought Azuremyst Isle!
13:18.07Ironhandquick offtopic question - can I stick a +20 FR enchant ("requires level 60 or higher item") on an Ony Scale cloak (req lvl 55, ilvl 60)?
13:18.44MelindhaNot sure if this is the right place to ask, but ScrollingCombatText has a note that says "appears to have been modified and no longer matches our database" but I can't update it, or reinstall it using CurseClient.
13:19.12EthanCentauraiMelindha: try Parrot
13:19.24MelindhaI have Parrot, but not set up for all my toons yet :)
13:19.57MelindhaI'm confused about the SCT message, because I haven't modified it, and it hasn't been updated by the dev in 7 months, so I don't understand the message.
13:20.49Arrowmasterdid you use wowmatrix in the past?
13:20.54MelindhaNope.
13:21.10Arrowmasterodd
13:21.12TorhalMelindha: Get MSBT. SCT is no longer maintained, and Parrot is baind-aided.
13:21.33Torhals/baind/band/
13:21.39Xinhuanright click reinstall doesn't work?
13:21.48Xinhuanit generally works for ppl
13:21.50MelindhaXinhuan: no, it doesn't do anything.
13:22.02Xinhuanright click choose Uninstall then
13:22.07EthanCentauraiI can't even download it
13:22.20Xinhuanthen find it in the addon list and try reinstall it that way
13:22.24MelindhaTorhal: I assume that is an acronym...can you tell me the name?  Search doesn't find it. :)
13:22.26kadrahilckknight: CC beta seems nice so far, no issues here
13:22.35TorhalMelindha: Mik Scrolling Battle Text
13:22.41MelindhaThank you!
13:22.43Torhalnp
13:23.40kadrahili'm going to break 6k nerd points this week :O
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13:27.05MelindhaXinhuan: I uninstalled, and I can no longer install it via CC.
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13:27.22Xinhuancheck that the folder is really gone from your AddOns folder
13:27.28Arrowmaster@project wow/sct
13:27.29RepoArrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/scrolling-combat-text/. ScrollingCombatText. Game: WoW. Grayhoof (Manager/Author), twobits (Maintainer). Updated: 218 days ago. Tickets: 2/4
13:27.36Xinhuanit could be write protected
13:27.39Xinhuanfor eg
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13:27.48Arrowmasterwhen the hell did twobits become maintainer?
13:27.58MelindhaYep, it's gone.
13:28.06Xinhuanprobably when grayhoof announced he was poof
13:28.19Xinhuanbut i'm sure u can check the admin logs
13:28.36Arrowmasterok v6.33 from nov 2008 is still listed as the latest
13:29.02Arrowmasterunless something has happened to the actual zip file
13:29.07MelindhaSounds like it's a "dead" addon anyway.  Heh, just means I'll have to speed up learning a new one. :)
13:29.19MelindhaThank you for your help!
13:30.06ArrowmasterXinhuan: grayhoof did it in feb
13:30.16Xinhuansounds about right
13:30.21Xinhuanhe announced he was poof in feb
13:30.29Xinhuanand asked for volunteers to take over
13:30.31Arrowmasterah
13:30.45Xinhuanu can prob search the wowace forums for his last post
13:30.54Xinhuanto verify
13:31.24Arrowmasterwell twobits hasnt done anything to it yet so it probably still works for most people
13:31.59TorhalI'm wondering if he's actually going to write anything or continue to take over all of the abandoned addons that were popular at one time.
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13:32.18Arrowmasterhe majorly fucked up tinytip
13:32.45Arrowmasterwell the projects, dont know about the actual addon
13:33.09TorhalGah. I'm about to do my first ban.
13:33.15Arrowmasteri locked my working copy to the last commit before any of his, which incidently was by me
13:33.36ArrowmasterTorhal: who? ive lost count of the number of bans ive done
13:33.45Torhalhttp://www.curseforge.com/announcements/responses-to-the-new-layouts/#c22
13:34.39Xinhuanwhat ban
13:35.02Xinhuanlol
13:35.20ArrowmasterTorhal: rofl look at the activity log for the ip
13:35.21Xinhuanthat's insta ban alright
13:35.50Arrowmasteri wana know what the deleted comment was
13:35.51Xinhuanwow
13:36.01TorhalDamn. He's spammed quite a bit
13:36.03Xinhuanu really want to know?
13:36.08Arrowmasteryes
13:36.14XinhuanSeasonal Power Leveling Service Only for Midsummer Fire Festival!
13:36.15XinhuanIt's back! June brings us Midsummer Fire Festival! Are you curious at the new boss in festival quest? Are you ready to get the most rewards? But don’t forget the festival is only two weeks, we bet you would not to waste all the time to search all the torches, get through the quest again and again.
13:36.15Arrowmasterthe ticket amuses me
13:36.22XinhuanMore time saved, more pleasure you can enjoy! If you select the seasonal power leveling service, our professional team will help you enjoy the revelry without taking away too much time from the invasion of the scourge.
13:36.24ArrowmasterXinhuan: no not that one
13:36.26Arrowmasteri saw that
13:36.30Xinhuanwhich one
13:36.33Arrowmasteri mean the one on the ticket
13:36.41Arrowmasterhttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1492-mikks-account-keeps-being-broken/?comment=1
13:37.03Xinhuanjust click it?
13:37.17Arrowmasterits not showing it
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13:37.57Arrowmasterhttp://www.curseforge.com/comments/32490-aioncoming-its-almost-time-to-spread-your-wings-and/ is redirecting to the ticket instead of showing me the comment
13:38.12Xinhuanthere isn't a comment i think
13:38.24Arrowmasterhttp://www.curseforge.com/admin/activities/202.152.176.96/
13:38.26Xinhuananyhow, that's the IP log, not the account log
13:38.27Arrowmasterlook there
13:38.34Arrowmasteri know
13:38.51Arrowmasterthe ip needs banned
13:41.42Xinhuanwell anyway, you or torhal handle it
13:42.00Xinhuani haven't really done any admin stuff for a while, too busy to even code addons
13:42.19ArrowmasterTorhal: you do it
13:42.26TorhalI got the username and the ip
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13:49.34kadrahilbah, i have this json encoded object array and javascript isn't letting me use .each on it
13:49.38kadrahilcries
13:51.10ckknightkadrahil: I believe you need a lib for that
13:52.15kadrahilckknight: as in jquery? (which i'm using)
13:53.06ckknight$.each(["alpha", "bravo","charlie"], function(i, v) {});
13:53.18ckknightthat what you doing?
13:53.19kadrahilhmm, i'll try that
13:53.33kadrahilno, i was using data.each(function(){...});
13:53.39kadrahildata being the object array
13:54.18ckknightyea, jQuery doesn't alter object prototypes
13:54.26kadrahilah, hmm
13:54.27ckknightit all has to be done with the $ object
13:54.45kadrahilhttp://pastey.net/116460
13:54.56kadrahilis the function, console logging it is where my code will go eventually
13:54.57kadrahilheh
13:55.11kadrahilall it's doing is emptying a <ul> and refreshing it
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13:55.43Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r61 / (2 files in 1 directory): Tuned: Iron Council - Rune of Death
13:55.46RepoAdded: Freya - Snaplasher - Hardened Bark, Yogg-Saron - Crusher Tentacle - Focused Anger
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13:58.02kadrahilckknight: $.each worked beautifully, thanks
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14:20.06Fiskerholy shit Arrowmaster
14:20.10Fiskerthat hello kitty ui is awesome
14:20.14Fiskerskin*
14:20.23Arrowmasteri didnt make it
14:21.14Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont 04v1.0 * r123 : Tagging as v1.0
14:22.03Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v3.0 * r89 : Tagging as v3.0
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14:23.34Brunersjust came up with an amazingly useless feature, when you visit another users profile the theme he uses will be used
14:24.28Brunersand obviously a "Use this skin" button
14:25.20Arrowmasterno
14:25.24Arrowmasterjust no
14:25.37kadrahilgrr
14:26.03kadrahili'm appending a <li> to a <ul> with this javascript and it's forcing it to be <li /> format, but i have a closing </li> being appended 3 lines later
14:26.06kadrahil:(
14:27.22sztanpet$('<li/>').html(yourstuff).appendTo() etc
14:27.43kadrahilhmm, ok
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14:28.40kadrahilheh, appending <li>somestuff</li> then appending somemorestuff to that <li> works too :o
14:28.45kadrahilsince each <li> has its own id too
14:29.12sztanpetsure, just dont throw tags around so easily :D
14:29.27kadrahil:)
14:29.28sztanpetthats what jquery is for
14:29.30ckknightBruners: interesting
14:30.27Brunersckknight: would help broadcasting the shiny new theme you just made at least :P
14:32.47mitch0bruners: then also make it possible to force my skin on the users I visit :)
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14:33.35Brunersmitch0: what about a forcebustersetting ? :P
14:33.51Brunersand a forcebusterbuster setting
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14:40.16Tamarothjust out of curiocity, maybe someone will know (not lua related, C instead), how can i trim double type number of lowest 2 digits?
14:40.29Tamarothlike 3.8674419389663315 to 3.86744193896633
14:40.31steevso is the ptr not actually up? i just keep getting the download is not authorized
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14:41.08SunTsuTamaroth: %.12f?
14:42.12Tamarothno, i don't want to print it yet
14:42.21Tamarothhmm, ok i see a way now
14:42.30SunTsuTamaroth: you can do sprintf
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14:42.36Tamarothsprintf and atof
14:42.40Tamarothyep
14:43.04Tamarothand is it possible to do it without this operations?
14:43.29Brunersckknight: could we get a "In Use" thing on the themes list?
14:44.04ckknightquestion is: would the number apply to what people have chosen for all sites or just the current site?
14:44.29sztanpetckknight the themes still randomly disable themselves on pages
14:44.46ckknightI haven't been able to reproduce that, sztanpet
14:45.11Brunerswhere is the setting stored? cookies or in db ?
14:45.16sztanpetno idea whats causing it, its seemingly not cookie related
14:45.44ckknightDB
14:45.51ckknightit used to be cookie related
14:45.55ckknightbut that was too unreliable
14:45.59ckknightnow it's DB-backed
14:46.45ckknightbrb
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14:47.06Zarnivoopthe "Store" link on wowace appears to be broken
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14:56.05mitch0zarnivoop: use the one from cf
14:57.14robotuschmeh, another site with that horrible "ZOMG YOU BE USING IE8! REPENT SINNER, REPENT!!!!!!!!" message
14:57.35ckknightstore's not launched yet
14:57.43ckknighthmm?
14:57.45ckknightwe have that message for IE6 and IE7
14:57.47ckknightnot IE8, though
14:58.07robotuschI just got it on cf and I'm using IE8
14:58.16ckknightcompat mode?
14:59.18robotuschshould be, been ages since I installed and set it up ;D
14:59.18ckknightthe explorer bar is wrapped in <!--[if lt IE 8]>
14:59.33ckknightso you'd only get it if you were in compat mode or something like that
15:00.02robotuschthat's probably why then
15:00.23robotuschshould probably untick it by now, 8 has been around long enough for developers to get their stuff together
15:01.03ckknightcan you untick it for certain sites?
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15:05.35robotuschit used to work in reverse, where you had to add sites to it (thank god for *.* actually working)
15:05.43robotuschdunno about the actual release
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15:08.21Repo10big-wigs: 03LCF_HeLL * r5730 Ulduar/YoggSaron.lua: BigWigs: ruRU update
15:08.59Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1021 / (3 files in 2 directories):
15:09.03Repo- Added actionbar text to hunter and warrior Gift of the Naaru
15:09.05Repo- Swapped holy nova damage to "secondary" effect instead of healing
15:09.08Repo- Possible error fix for Melee.lua in some special cases when not using a weapon and requesting calculations for abilities that do require one
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15:24.41steevis there an addon somewhere that can keep track of the extra lightning bolts from elemental shamans?
15:24.57steevim curious as to how many times it procs
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15:26.22SunTsusteev: don't the usual suspects like proculas track that already?
15:26.32Wobinoverload?
15:26.51WobinFrom what I glanced at the combat log, it's not specifically detailed =\
15:27.03Wobinbut maybe there's something in the guid that's unique
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15:27.43WobinProculas doesn't cover overload
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15:31.23Wobinwish it did
15:31.56yoshimohttp://www.wowace.com/projects/proculas/tickets/ ? ;)
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15:33.33steevhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=39805 maybe?
15:34.19Wobinhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/proculas/tickets/66-shaman-overload/
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15:39.39steevi can throw lightning bolts longer than i can have totems down :(
15:39.48steevon one mana bar on a test dummy
15:40.07sacarascSo put more totems down
15:40.31steevits more of a, wow, i can't believe my mana lasts that long kinda thing
15:40.57steevthen again, i was resto from 10-70, and 70-76 i've been ele (wearing the resto gear)
15:42.05thulhmm, levling as resto?!
15:42.07thulman that sounds boring
15:42.13thulI leveled enhancement from 1-70
15:42.22steevmy girlfriend was enhance
15:42.27steevi just followed her around healing her
15:42.32sacarascI levelled enhancement 1-80.
15:42.43TorhalI officially detest torch juggling.
15:42.44sacarascAnd I usually forget I have a mana bar.
15:42.47SunTsuI leveled my paladin as resto until lvl 56 - and then dualspeccing went live ;)=
15:42.53TorhalHow the hell are you supposed to know where it's going?
15:43.00steevwatch the shadow
15:43.02sacarascShadow on the ground.
15:43.26TorhalI hope that doesn't require the new shadow effect
15:43.30thulhaha
15:43.31sacarascNope.
15:43.34thulthat i have to try when i get home
15:43.43thultried looking for it up in the sky first...
15:43.45thulman, was that useless.
15:43.56sacarascI have all my graphics settings on the lowest and I can follow the shadows.
15:44.27steevturn on projected textures, turn down particle density
15:44.29steevwin.
15:44.50Arrowmasteri could keep juggling a torch all day if it didnt stop at 10
15:45.04steevfunny story about that
15:45.13steevour mage was doing the retarded achievements
15:45.24Arrowmasterdid the daily in a single try after it not being available for an entire year yesterday
15:45.26steevwent in to a wg battle, forgot he changed the keybindings
15:45.30Arrowmasteron min graphics settings
15:45.36sacarascSame, Arrowmaster.
15:45.38steevwent to attack the horde... kept throwing out torches
15:45.53steevit was quite commical
15:45.55steevcomical*
15:46.12sacarascThe extra m is for funny.
15:46.56ArrowmasterTorhal: just put the camera directly over you, zoom out, hold down right click then move and strafe around to always stay under it
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15:47.26sacarascI keyboard turn and still get it, that's how easy it is.
15:47.57steevckknight: um
15:48.14Arrowmasteronce you master it with having the camera directly over your character looking down you could do it all day without ever droping one
15:48.18ckknightdon't just say um, spit it out, steev
15:48.50steevckknight: http://steev.net/files/screenshots/ad-free-what.png
15:49.12steevi *am* a premium user
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16:21.54WobinTorhal: actually, depending on your latency, you might want to stay slightly ahead of the torch shadow
16:22.13Wobinand make sure you do it in a city where you can easily see the shadows on the floor
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16:45.22Brunersdo i need epgp_lootmaster to be just a member not distributing loot?
16:46.42Repo10tourguide-midsummerfestival: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v0.1-beta-4-g08ab3d0 Horde.lua: [+2 commits]
16:46.45Repo08ab3d0: More co-ordinate updating, remove duplicate entry (I'm an idiot).
16:46.48Repof6b67a8: Update co-ordinates.
16:50.02Cheadshmm how am I supposed to get my fingers on that build of tourguide-midsummerfestival?
16:50.19EthanCentaurai@project tourguide-midsummerfestival
16:50.20RepoEthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/tourguide-midsummerfestival/. TourGuide - The Midsummer Fire Festival. Game: WoW. ethancentaurai (Manager/Author). Updated: 34 days ago. Tickets: 2/2
16:50.31EthanCentauraiwait for me to package a new version? :)
16:50.49Cheads=)
16:51.27Cheadspatience is a virtue, though I dont have any virtues. But if I had, patience certainly wouldn't be one of them :)
16:52.32Cheadsjust thought there would be a few changes from the one downloadable at curse, since that's from May
16:53.04NeoTronah so it appears that the collisium will haev X bosses on each tier
16:53.34Repo10tourguide-midsummerfestival: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v0.1-beta-5-gcf28d17 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Bump version and update changelog for Version 0.2. The Alliance guide is a lie.
16:53.41Repo10tourguide-midsummerfestival: 03ethancentaurai 04v0.2-beta * 97ed78a /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.2-beta
16:54.09nevcairielhm didnt you quit wow and leave EthanCentaurai?
16:54.13nevcairielor was that another guy ..
16:54.32EthanCentauraiyeah I did, but I got pressured into coming back to write this goddamn guide >_<
16:55.17EthanCentauraiI blame my family
16:57.54NeoTronEthanCentaurai: man where was that guide yesterday?
16:58.13EthanCentauraiup and running
16:58.25EthanCentauraiit just wasn't on Curse for some reason
16:58.26NeoTronI assume it's for the fires? although admittedly I didn't do the old world part
16:58.39EthanCentauraiall fires for the Horde afaik
16:58.43NeoTronI did the northrend and outlands oen on one character
16:58.53EthanCentauraithere are Northrend fires?
16:58.56NeoTronfor the gold - I could care less about achievements
16:58.57NeoTronyeah
16:59.03NeoTronin each zone except icescrow
16:59.09NeoTron*Icecrown
16:59.16nevcairielthey have no achievement, though
16:59.19NeoTronright
16:59.21NeoTronbut free gold
16:59.52NeoTronand some of them are in the same spots for both factions so it's a nice set of gold
17:00.01NeoTrongold per time spent that is
17:00.06EthanCentauraiugeth
17:00.15durcynwhat, you don't want a Violet Proto Drake, NeoTron?
17:00.27NeoTronno
17:00.31nevcairielusually all fires in the same spots for both factions =P
17:00.44durcynlies, you're lying, who wouldn't want a big purple dragon
17:00.56EthanCentauraialready has one
17:00.59durcynthough i must say, the graphics on the Rusted are amazing so far
17:01.11NeoTronI have a 310 mount on my main character and plan on getting the second... and I don't care enough to put myself through the horrid pain that is all these holiday achievements
17:01.23durcynfie, they're not that bad
17:01.43NeoTronI don't really do achievements, at all. they don't interest me sufficiently
17:01.53NeoTronI do raiding / dungeon ones primarily because they give me something
17:02.04NeoTronlike a title or a protodrake :)
17:02.26NeoTronhttp://files.spectralcoding.com/files/wow/index.html  <-- that's probably height of insanity
17:03.35NeoTronin retrospect, perhaps I should have picked an alt to do these holiday achievements on but alas, it's too late to care now
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17:03.53durcynthey're not going away, you've got a year for any character
17:04.37NeoTronwell mainly I doubt I'll be 1) around in a year, 2) around sufficiently long after a year to care anyway
17:05.18EthanCentauraiwonders if there will Achievements in StarCraft 2 and Diablo 3
17:05.30NeoTrondo you have to wonder? :P
17:05.49StanzillaCaleb|: EnsidiaFails: Missing entry for 'The Spark of Imagination':
17:05.53NeoTronheck I got this really cheesy game for my daughter (Virtual Families) and IT has achievements
17:06.09EthanCentauraiheh, maybe we'll be able to create a Battle.net Gamer Profile, similar to X-Box Live Profiles :P
17:06.52NeoTronI am looking forward to Diablo 3. not so much starcraft since I'm not really an RTS player
17:06.56Tristanianpretty much where this is all going
17:07.08Tristanianwith the consolidated account that is
17:07.26steevmeh, i dunno what overload is supposed to proc as
17:07.37steevbut i tried adding all 3 ranks to procodile and nothing there as well
17:07.52steevwowlogs or whatever seems to be able to seperate it
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17:11.39Repo10broker-recount-statistics: 03Tristanian * r4 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Implemented enUS localization.
17:11.42Repo- Inserted default values for text update frequency and slider max height to the static popup editboxes.
17:12.27FiskerEthanCentaurai they've already said that this is what they're planning
17:13.42Repo10broker-recount-statistics: 03Tristanian 04v1.0 beta * r5 : Tagging as v1.0 beta
17:17.01steevokay, now i have a combat log
17:18.31steevhmm, 49239
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17:28.03steevunfortunately, im not 80, so thats not the max rank overload
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18:01.25Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2133 AckisRecipeList.lua:
18:01.28RepoReset the known flags explicitly now once a scan has occured.
18:02.32Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2134 AckisRecipeList.lua:
18:02.35RepoSince we're explicitly reseting the known flag, stop doing it elsewhere.
18:03.43Belazor@project broker-recount-statistics
18:03.44RepoBelazor: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-recount-statistics/. Broker Recount Statistics. Game: WoW. Tristanian (Manager/Author). Updated: 48 minutes ago
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18:12.19Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2135 / (2 files in 1 directory): Ok so the tooltip scanning stuff now should be copypasta.
18:12.21aestilAntiarc: i go to blip a stupid move i saw, and it says 'you might also like this movie' at the bottom.... but I've already blipped the movie its saying I might like.
18:12.22aestilshouldn't it know that and not suggest movies i've already blipped?
18:12.23durcynthat's an amazing nonsense verb right there.
18:12.23nuoHepthere is no way to change the css on new wowace (like there was in beta.**)&
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18:12.36EthanCentaurainuoHep: www.wowace.com/themes
18:12.43nuoHepthanks a lot
18:13.38NeoTrondurcyn: did you ever go bling your blips?
18:13.51NeoTrons/bling/bing/
18:13.59NeoTron~fail nuoHep
18:14.00NeoTronerr
18:14.03NeoTron~fail NeoTron
18:16.12aestili didn't do anything this weekend and monday is still killing me.
18:16.19aestilI badly need coffee.
18:21.03durcynNeoTron: no, but i blumpkin'd your mother once.
18:21.43NivFreakepic
18:21.45NivFreakhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18031233105&sid=1
18:21.55durcynokay, i lied.  it was three times.
18:22.02Brunersaestil: had the same today
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18:26.13aestilBruners: eh?
18:26.32aestiloh, the monday?
18:26.34aestilbleh.
18:26.35Brunersyep
18:26.35aestili'm so beat.
18:27.17Brunersi went to bed at 22 and woke up by the alarm 0600
18:27.22Brunersstill tired
18:27.39aestilyeah, i went to bed a bit later than that, around 23, but i didn't get up until almost 7
18:27.42aestilbleh.
18:27.52NeoTronNivFreak: man I've noticed that too. it only happens with death strike too!
18:27.52aestil5 espresso shots... here I come.
18:28.21NeoTronNivFreak: what's worth, I appear to be immune to the healing aspect of the strike too at the same time! What kind of power is this!
18:28.28NivFreakhaha
18:32.51KaeltenFor those who love variable width: http://www.wowace.com/themes/flowing-subdued/
18:33.30nevcairieldo you have to taint it with ugly colors?
18:34.51Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2136 ARLDatamine.lua:
18:34.54RepoIn ProfessionScan(): Changed self: to addon:. Hide the datamine tooltip.
18:36.31Kaeltennevcairiel: yes
18:36.48KaeltenI actually like the colors, dark and constrasting, without being monochromattic, and I find it easy on my eyes
18:37.06nevcairielit looks like a page from the 80's =P
18:38.06NeoTronyou're saying it like it's a bad thing
18:38.16NeoTronalthough ... what browser did you use in the 80s? :P
18:38.30TorhalMust have been an alternate-reality 80's, where the WWW was invented early.
18:38.46TorhalArchie and Gopher sure as hell didn't look like that.
18:38.56NeoTronmmm. Archie
18:41.39NeoTronI remember back at the univ, how we were asked not to load the cross-atlantic cable during US work hours (living in Sweden)
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18:44.05Kaeltenlol
18:44.09durcynit needs <BLINK> and <MARQUEE> tags
18:44.18Kaeltendurcyn: k, give me a min
18:44.20durcynwith stars.gif as the page background, and a geocities hit counter at the bottom
18:44.27durcynmaybe a midi playing
18:44.39Kaeltenlol
18:44.45nevcairiellol
18:45.00ckknightdurcyn: I have a task for you.
18:45.01nevcairielI can make text move!
18:45.11ckknightyou must do it now
18:45.22Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2137 / (2 files in 2 directories): Update a bunch of tailoring flags.
18:45.26durcynckknight: a...task?
18:45.47ckknightmake it look as much from '95 as possible
18:46.12durcyni'm rocking a text browser at work, turnaround's going to be longer than 'now'
18:46.43durcynbut really, center-aligned white on black gets you 75% of the way there
18:46.43ckknightlulz
18:47.22Fiskerslaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout
18:47.28ckknightyes, Fisker?
18:47.45Kaelten~lart fisker
18:47.46purlcuts fisker into thin stripes
18:48.02durcyn~rlart
18:48.02purlcalls Zyndrome on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home
18:48.09Fiskeryour assasination attempt failed
18:48.15Zyndromegod damn!
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18:56.08FtH|Daemonahmmm interesting... http://i44.tinypic.com/w7y58l.jpg
18:56.29Zyndromethe game thunderstormed your RAM
18:56.36FtH|Daemona3.1.3 code?
18:58.18Tamarothbranch, yeah :>
19:00.52Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2138 ARLDatamine.lua: Lets ignore bop/boe if it's a trainer recipe.
19:04.23Fiskerwhy so surprised FtH|Daemona ?
19:04.47FtH|Daemonaa) it's using code from a patch that didnt get released
19:04.54FtH|Daemonab) it tried to allocate 11gig of ram
19:05.06FiskerVersion 3.1.3 (9947)
19:05.13FiskerBAM
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19:06.01FtH|Daemona<- obviously confused
19:06.10Fiskerrawrs
19:07.46Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2115 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update
19:07.52Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r2139 ARLDatamine.lua: Fixed the trainer check for recipe binding.
19:15.30Repo10lib-st: 03ddumont * r90 .docmeta: Troubleshooting docmeta.
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19:21.44Brunersp3lim: poke
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19:40.30FiskerTHIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS
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19:41.40NeoTronFisker: so how's Starcraft 2 beta?
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19:53.58FiskerNeoTron no beta because blizzard is the cancer killing gaming
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19:58.07netcursesc2 beta starts this week
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19:59.23durcyndenmark is the cancer killing gaming
19:59.36aestilwoot! Espresso wins!
20:02.21Fiskerseems unlikely at the moment netcurse
20:02.41FiskerPresumably they were going to announce today it would be starting like today or tomorrow or something
20:02.48FiskerBut that got cancelled apparently
20:08.14Brunersgood night Fisker
20:14.45nicoli_sdamnit fisker, with all the bullshit you spread i can never decide to beleiev you or not
20:15.18Fiskerme spread bullshit?
20:15.24Fiskerpreposterous
20:15.30nicoli_sayuh
20:15.53FiskerBlizzard needs to work on their polishing beta release-skills
20:16.24Fisker~roulette
20:16.24purlACTION watches fisker pull the trigger:  Click!
20:16.27Fisker:(
20:17.44robotusch:(
20:18.08Fisker~roulette robotusch
20:21.03NivFreak~roulette
20:21.03purlACTION watches nivfreak pull the trigger:  Click!
20:21.15Fisker~roulette
20:21.15purlACTION watches fisker pull the trigger:  Click!
20:21.26NivFreak~roulette
20:21.26purlACTION watches nivfreak pull the trigger:  Click!
20:21.36Groktar~roulette
20:21.36purlACTION watches groktar pull the trigger:  Click!
20:21.50Fisker~roulette
20:21.50purlACTION watches fisker pull the trigger:  BANG!
20:21.56Fiskergood night
20:21.59EthanCentauraicheers
20:22.03GroktarFISKER DESERVED IT
20:29.17kenlyricthe bullet is always in the last chamber
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20:39.14Repopong
20:39.15AckisWork~rlart
20:39.16purlputs plexiglass into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of plexiglass's hair of
20:39.20AckisWork~wowspell 4343
20:39.46nicoli_syou get no wowspell!
20:39.59NeoTronhow about a candle instead?
20:40.07AckisWorkwhat happened to my wowspell command :(
20:40.14AckisWorkwho deleted it?
20:41.04AckisWorkstupid freenode :( banning mibbit and making me use this crappy web-client
20:43.11jnwhitehbanned mibbit?
20:43.26AckisWorkyes they'be blocked mibbit from connecting
20:43.34jnwhitehwow
20:43.52AckisWorkand are like "use this crappy web-irc that has 1/10th of the features"
20:43.53sztanpeti personally like qwebirc better then mibbit
20:44.00nicoli_smirc ftw!
20:44.05sztanpetwhat features do you miss
20:44.59AckisWorksztanpet: auto auth (but I see they just added that), remembering which channels I want to join, having an easily readable IRC screen
20:45.31AckisWorkthe wall of white is too much for my eyes I think
20:45.41durcyndon't worry though, the random mass webclient disconnects are still around
20:45.50durcynwatching 15 people quit at the same time is fun the first time
20:45.52sztanpettheyr opening up the styles, or at least thats the plan
20:46.06AckisWorksztanpet: just open up mibbit again
20:46.16sztanpetmeh
20:47.36AckisWorkI understand why they did, but mibbit complied so there's no issue (IMO)
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20:49.37NivFreakhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/17617974975-whats-the-next-hero-class-going-to-be.html
20:49.40NivFreak^-- haha
20:50.29AckisWorklol
20:50.31AckisWork[Not tracked]  
20:50.34AckisWorkwhy does it show up then?
20:50.50NivFreakthat's not the official blue tracker
20:52.27durcyntheir internal blue tracker actually keys off of the phrase [Not tracked]
20:52.27sztanpetbecause they do, its just doesnt show up in the rss feeds
20:52.28StanzillaAckisWork: noob
20:52.28sztanpetor at least thats how wowraid does it
20:52.28AckisWorkah there's an official one?
20:52.28durcyninstead of something intelligent like giving moderators an additional thread option to toggle it
20:52.29durcynAckisWork: internal, not official
20:52.29AckisWorkStanzilla: hey I got asked as a holy priest why my hps was low. :( I responded with "we're bringing 6 or 7 healers.
20:54.23NivFreakhuh?
20:54.28StanzillaoO
20:54.51NivFreakoh
20:54.54NivFreakheals per second
20:55.17durcynhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18031233273&sid=1&pageNo=3#47
20:55.58durcynit keeps getting better and better
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21:04.10Arrowmasterdurcyn: actually the [Not tracked] does nothing, they do have the option of making a post tracked or not and the [Not tracked] is just an attempt to get other sites to do the same
21:05.21durcynArrowmaster: then it's dumb.
21:07.32NeoTronnot one but TWO Magnataurs!
21:07.34NeoTronoh wait.. no. just one
21:09.00sztanpethttp://wowraid.com/index.php?topic=339.0
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22:01.20Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2141 / (2 files in 2 directories):
22:01.23RepoAdd checks to see if binding info has been added at all, and lets deal with recipe specialities properly now.
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22:03.14RepoWe're gonna get false positives with the belt of archmage. Bleh.
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22:04.35Repo10broker_ankhtimer: 03Millel * r23 Core.lua: Properly detects if renew of life glyph is equipped.
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22:04.44Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 4b3b73a / (4 files in 4 directories): [+2 commits]
22:04.48Repo4b3b73a: Improvements to the text provider system.  In particular:
22:04.52Repo228ea76: Make CombatText a tad more efficient by turning off the timer when it's
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22:12.09Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 04v4.0.0-beta1 * 9b20cc0 /: [new tag] Tagging as v4.0.0-beta1, PB4 is offically beta now.
22:15.04ulicoh ah
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22:22.32FtH|Daemonahttp://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert
22:22.38FtH|Daemonaanyone know what they will be hotfixing?
22:23.03ShefkiProblem the Midsummer stuff.
22:23.03NivFreakrebuffing all content so that we have something to do when 3.2 hits
22:23.14NivFreaknaxx 3.0 go
22:23.28NeoTronhard mode naxx!
22:23.30Gnarfozinteresting
22:23.40GnarfozI didn't even know YouTube had private messaging o_O
22:24.12Gnarfozguess NeoTron's MagicTargets has a new user now ;>
22:24.17FtH|Daemonayeah a bit strange they announce euro hotfixes and don't just delay them a day to do it during normal maintenance... and us message only mentions the midsummer issues
22:24.38Gnarfozthe midsummer stuff was already fixed on EU anyway?
22:24.39FtH|Daemonabut no hotfixing
22:24.48FtH|Daemonanot on sunday evening
22:25.03GnarfozI wonder how I could do the quests/fires on my Warlock, then
22:25.16Gnarfozbecause I already did all of that pre-3.0, last year
22:25.25Gnarfoz:o
22:25.31FtH|Daemonai neither got blossoms in the mail nor did they remove my achievements but i definitly had 1 of the city achievements and several flame quests
22:25.33Gnarfozmagic, I'm certain! :>
22:25.51GnarfozI just lacked the shit they tacked on after 3.0 PTR
22:26.01FtH|Daemonaso unless i get blossoms in the mail its not fixed "!
22:26.04Gnarfoz(juggling in Dalaran & dancing with full garb)
22:26.12Gnarfozs/with/in/
22:26.27GnarfozI was Flame Warden on 3.0 PTR already, hehe
22:26.38NivFreakI did all the flames last year, and when I checked achievements last week, I only had credit for 2 towns
22:26.39Pneumatusall the fires have reset in the last few hours for me :o
22:26.50Gnarfozmoar MONEH
22:26.51NivFreakluckily I was able to go pick up all the flames again
22:26.55NivFreakfree 650G
22:27.00NivFreakwin
22:27.00Pneumatusso i can re-do northrend AND all the classic/bc zones
22:27.11NivFreakPneumatus: that'd be hot
22:27.14GnarfozI'll do it on my sub-80 chars for free exp
22:27.15NivFreakit's like 700G total
22:27.53Pneumatusim only doing what i need to get the last few blossom items
22:28.02Pneumatusbecause im lazy
22:28.06FtH|Daemonaso i really have to fire up tourguide a second time to see which i had, got reset and now miss the blossoms ?
22:28.08FtH|Daemonaaugh
22:28.27NivFreakI found a few bugs with that tourguide
22:28.29NivFreakI should fix them
22:28.38FtH|Daemonathere is a 0.2 release
22:28.46FtH|Daemonalook at that before you start bug fixing
22:28.51NivFreakyea, i should
22:29.02NivFreakterokkar forest was mispelled
22:29.06NivFreakone other zone as well
22:29.07FtH|Daemonait's working ok, just not fully automatic
22:29.15NivFreakand he randomly sends you to the barrens, with nothing to do
22:29.20FtH|Daemonayou have to tick/untick some objectives occasionally
22:29.29FtH|Daemonayeah i noticed that too ;)
22:29.50NivFreakit'd be nice if the steps actually completed as well
22:30.00FtH|Daemonaguess i could take my january created warlock through the guide and see how its working ;)
22:30.03NivFreakinstead of having to manually click them
22:30.08FtH|Daemonathe question is, is it worth the time
22:30.18NivFreakit took me the better part of an afternoon to do it all
22:30.25NivFreakof course I stopped by ironforge and stormwind solo
22:30.30NivFreakwhich was time consuming to say the least
22:30.54Caleb|FtH|Daemona hoping for yogg 0 watcher fix ? :D
22:30.57FtH|DaemonaNiv, i am already glad i have a red line i can follow, so entering barrens twice is nothing i'd be bothered by
22:31.12Tamarothhmm
22:31.18FtH|DaemonaCaleb| wouldnt help me dirty welfare euro, yogg is already down
22:31.22NivFreakFtH|Daemona: it just left me a bit confused as to what it was trying to do
22:31.30cauchyis this just me, or oRA3 doesn't really have tank panels?
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22:31.51Caleb|haha so angry FtH|Daemona
22:31.57cauchyand setting up main tanks doesn't really do anything either
22:32.01FtH|Daemonanaah, it's called self-irony ;)
22:32.13EndoRA3 is pretty alpha right now
22:34.14NivFreakcauchy: ora3 has no MTs support yet
22:34.46cauchyok! that explains it!
22:34.48cauchythanks
22:38.08thul<PROTECTED>
22:38.14thulyou complain much, like a shield-maiden!
22:45.02GnarfozFtH|Daemona: when do you reckon it's time to emigrate from here, btw? ^^
22:45.51FtH|Daemonaimmediatly someone offers my a sysadmin positon from which i can live...
22:46.31FtH|Daemonas/my/me
22:47.15Gnarfozhehe
22:47.25Gnarfozit's hard enough to find an IT job as it is
22:47.26Gnarfoz:\
22:47.59FtH|Daemonaguess why i am still studying, because i can improve my knowledge, earn a degree, pay less tax ... you get the point?
22:48.32Gnarfozyeah, except the "..." part continues with "and still not get a job" right now ;<
22:48.35ckknightthemes now have attachment support as well as revisioning.
22:49.06Gnarfozmind control is gone from Yogg, right?
22:49.09Gnarfozi.e. just insanity is left
22:49.16FtH|Daemonayupp
22:49.21Gnarfoz*removes from bigwigs*
22:49.43SqueeGooooooh attachement support
22:50.05Megalonattaches Fisker to all themes
22:50.59FtH|Daemonackknight as you just mentioned styles... the default styles font size is subjectively observed a little big in IE when i am not logged in ;)
22:51.04Gnarfozattaches HelloWoWAce to Megalon
22:51.06SqueeGWe're sorry, an error occurred on the server that can't currently be recovered. You can try this page again, but if it fails more than 3 times in a row, that means it isn't temporary.
22:51.06SqueeGThe administrators of this site have already been informed of the issue.
22:51.07SqueeGlol
22:51.48Arrowmastersomething tells me thats a lie and ckknight never checks the error logs
22:52.01SqueeGit failed 3 times!
22:52.03SqueeGnoooooooooooooes
22:52.06ckknightlemme fix
22:52.51orionshockckknight: have u seen this http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=16713 -- i think a scared new author might have found something
22:52.53Arrowmastersee if ckknight really cared he would have an error log monitoring daemon connected to an smsrelay
22:52.59ckknightArrowmaster: what the fuck is your problem?
22:53.06Arrowmasterand be fixing it before you bitched in irc
22:53.18SqueeGi didn't bitch
22:53.23SqueeGi leweld
22:53.46Arrowmasterckknight: where is your errorlog to sms relay!
22:54.06ckknightI check the error log once an hour or so, that's plenty. If someone pings me on IRC, I'll attend to it faster
22:54.14ckknightbut I don't want it to message me
22:54.26Arrowmasterfine make it message Kaelten
22:54.31SqueeGhahaha
22:54.36ckknightbtw, SqueeG, try now
22:54.41SqueeGk ^^
22:54.42Gnarfoz~wowspell 63042
22:54.53Gnarfoz~spell 63042
22:54.58Gnarfoz:<
22:55.02Gnarfozwhere did that go :<
22:55.26SqueeG500 Internal Server Error
22:55.29orionshock~spellid 63042
22:56.02SqueeGit's a png files, does that matter?
22:56.17ckknightit should be fine, lemme check
22:56.54ckknightdeploying fix
22:56.54GnarfozFtH|Daemona: meh, it uses the same thing for the "0 sanity" mind control
22:57.07Pneumatusckknight: any plans for a 'private' type theme, so it can be played around with before it appears in the theme list?
22:57.17ckknightnot really
22:57.25ckknight:P
22:57.29ckknightthere is a preview button, though
22:57.30ckknight:)
22:57.37ckknightPneumatus: file a ticket about it
22:57.39SqueeGpreview winbs
22:57.43SqueeGwins*
22:57.46Pneumatusdoesnt let you view the whole site though :<
22:57.51ckknight...yet!
22:57.52ckknight<.<
22:57.53ckknight>.>
22:57.54SqueeGhaha
22:57.55Pneumatuswell, im not really fussed
22:57.59ckknightfile a ticket about it, I can do it.
22:58.12SqueeGi was thinking maybe you could show sample areas of the main page / project page?
22:58.26ckknightyea, that's what I was thinking, SqueeG
22:59.10SqueeGthe attachment worked =D
22:59.43ckknightwoo
23:00.21SqueeGeeee revision history!
23:00.53ckknightis e good?
23:02.56SqueeG*Big thumbs up*
23:02.56Repo10big-wigs: 038tImER * r5731 Ulduar (2 files in 1 directory): Ulduar/Yogg-Saron: minor deDE text tweaks
23:02.59RepoUlduar/Kologarn: minor text tweaks
23:03.07NivFreakaka, broken bigwigs
23:03.27Stanzillaomg it's 8tImER
23:03.41SqueeGI would prefer wigs that fit
23:03.43Gnarfozso much hate :<
23:03.46Stanzilla:D
23:03.50Gnarfoz~define periwig
23:04.49GnarfozCaleb|: do you have EnsidiaFails set to not package alphas? ^^
23:04.54Repo10recountfailbot: 03Elsia 04v3.1d stable * r20 : Tagging as v3.1d stable
23:05.13NeoTron~nickometer 8tImER
23:05.21Kaelten~nickometer neotron
23:05.28GnarfozKaelten: upper case letters.
23:05.28Caleb|no I don't Gnarfoz
23:05.31NeoTronthat's right
23:05.32Caleb|dunno why its not packaged
23:05.38Kaelten~nickometer NeoTron
23:05.43Gnarfozwoot?
23:05.45Gnarfoz:<
23:05.47NeoTron>:-)
23:05.53GnarfozCamelCase is certainly lameness-worthy :p
23:05.53Kaelten~nickometer Kaelten
23:05.58Kaeltenwoot
23:05.59Kaeltenlol
23:06.13NeoTron~nickometer SqueeG
23:06.18NeoTronapparently not
23:06.21Gnarfozalso, I blame Kaelten (and Canada) for still being "8tImER" on curse :p
23:06.43Kaeltendon't blame me!
23:06.57Gnarfoz~blame Kaelten
23:06.58SqueeGO_o
23:07.56Gnarfoz~ping
23:07.56purl~pong
23:07.56NeoTron~pong
23:07.56purl~ping
23:07.56Gnarfoztoday is simply not a good day :<
23:07.56Gnarfoz@ping
23:07.56Repopong
23:07.56Gnarfozat least Repo still wuvs me
23:08.07NeoTronhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/0448421658
23:08.40Gnarfozamazing how you can chop off 3/4 of an Amazon.com URL and have it still work ;p
23:09.09Gnarfoz(boo @ SEO optimized URL rewriting, some times :P)
23:09.31NeoTronwell yeah
23:09.33Kaeltenwowaces is pretty seo optimized
23:09.37NeoTronall it needs is the asin
23:10.29NeoTronwell and the /dp/ prefix since that indicats what's used to render the page
23:11.24GnarfozKaelten: at least you can simply leave out the SEO part of an URL on wowace, too (e.g. ticket names, ID is enough, yay)
23:11.50NeoTronthe tricky part with an amazon URL is that the text isn't just at the end of the URL but in the middle of it
23:12.37Gnarfozckknight: it r broek: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ensidiafails/repositories/mainline/packager/ < bottom 2 entries
23:12.39NeoTrondoesn't work on the website team(s) and has no clue why it was done that way.
23:13.13Gnarfozyou work at amazon?
23:14.09ckknightGnarfoz: ran it again
23:14.48Gnarfozckknight: \o/, Caleb|: ckk fixed it ;)
23:14.57Caleb|ahh cool, thanks
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23:45.30NeoTronGnarfoz: yes
23:49.45ckknightk, people's issues with themes not appearing to stick may be fixed now, as I changed some HTTP caching stuff on the server. If you aren't using the theme you think you should be, just refresh and hopefully it won't happen again
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