| 00:00.23 | NeoTron | I still do heal quite a mean one on my pally.. or rather I did in BC - haven't healed in LK |
| 00:00.49 | NivFreak | I love priest healing |
| 00:00.54 | NivFreak | 2 more seconds on penance though |
| 00:00.57 | NivFreak | and nerfed PoH |
| 00:01.00 | NivFreak | maybe I'll go back holy |
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| 00:04.52 | joequincy | NivFreak, drweird: Thanks for the tips. Since the optimal situation isn't possible, I'm just gonna have to settle for something that requires more Vent interaction, which I suppose isn't that bad of an idea anyway :P |
| 00:06.30 | NivFreak | yea, we work with the vent method of "can someone rez the stupid mage after this phase? X has got him!" |
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| 00:48.38 | ckknight | hey all, everyone's themes are gonna reset to the site themes, because I'm changing where it's storing what your personal theme is. |
| 00:51.57 | ckknight | and done |
| 00:53.59 | Stanzilla_ | :( |
| 00:54.11 | Kemayo | Ackis: SilverDragon won't use that library, since it's over 7mb in size. |
| 00:54.21 | Ackis | lol k |
| 00:54.29 | Kemayo | (Also, it doesn't localize the rare names, so I'd have to be doing my own scanning anyway.) |
| 00:59.47 | Ackis | I hsould write a mod called "AnalMod" which does ANAL SPELLLINK in random chats at random times |
| 01:00.23 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 01:01.07 | VonhintenHOME` | Call it "Anal [Mod]" if anything |
| 01:02.04 | ckknight | Ackis: wait, don't people analyze items, not spells? |
| 01:02.08 | ckknight | or is that the joke? |
| 01:02.24 | Ackis | they do spells |
| 01:03.03 | ckknight | what's to analyze? |
| 01:03.25 | ckknight | Stanzilla_: I mean theme preferences, not your actual themes. |
| 01:03.34 | Shirik | Ackis |
| 01:03.36 | Shirik | I will destroy you |
| 01:04.12 | ckknight | fight! |
| 01:04.44 | SqueeG_ | ckk themes are sstill being funky about skinning |
| 01:04.55 | ckknight | howso? |
| 01:05.07 | SqueeG_ | sometimes they will, some times they won't |
| 01:05.08 | Stanzilla_ | ckknight: oh ok |
| 01:05.25 | ckknight | SqueeG_: just now? cause I totally changed where it specifies your personal theme. |
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| 01:05.47 | SqueeG_ | yea it wasn't theming projects, had to click aroudn a few times before it did |
| 01:05.57 | SqueeG_ | and now home |
| 01:05.58 | ckknight | I think you just needed to refresh maybe |
| 01:06.10 | SqueeG_ | sec |
| 01:07.23 | SqueeG_ | yea for some reason it's really prevalent with home and projects |
| 01:07.25 | SqueeG_ | try it :3 |
| 01:07.55 | ckknight | I have been |
| 01:07.57 | ckknight | no issues |
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| 01:08.17 | SqueeG_ | hmmm |
| 01:09.09 | ckknight | I'm using your squeaky clean theme |
| 01:09.16 | ckknight | no issues whatsoever |
| 01:09.38 | sacarasc | squeaks at ckknight. |
| 01:09.46 | SqueeG_ | i just switched to kael's subdued theme, and it home was unskinned >.< roar |
| 01:09.53 | SqueeG_ | maybe it's a plugin in my FF |
| 01:09.56 | SqueeG_ | i'll try chrome |
| 01:09.59 | ckknight | you mean /home/? |
| 01:10.04 | ckknight | I'm using FF |
| 01:10.34 | SqueeG_ | no, just 'home' as in front page |
| 01:10.53 | SqueeG_ | it's really random, i don't know what it happens |
| 01:11.58 | ckknight | data caching seems up to par |
| 01:12.05 | ckknight | and the output caching takes theme into account |
| 01:13.13 | ckknight | oh well, I'm done for tonight |
| 01:13.37 | SqueeG_ | ^^ |
| 01:17.41 | ckknight | I'll probably add stats on the themes page tomorrow, to show how many users are using a theme ;-) |
| 01:25.38 | SqueeG_ | haha |
| 01:25.41 | SqueeG_ | -5! |
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| 01:27.27 | Shirik | dude wtf |
| 01:27.35 | Shirik | they've really gimped fruit rollups |
| 01:27.53 | Shirik | they're so tiny now |
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| 01:30.08 | ckknight | fruit rollups got nerfed in the last patch |
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| 01:32.19 | SqueeG_ | lmao |
| 01:34.19 | Hjalte | With CC 4.0 coming along, are there plans to support Curse saving what addons I use and the settings of the client? |
| 01:35.12 | ckknight | yes. |
| 01:35.22 | ckknight | there are plans |
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| 01:35.33 | ckknight | though I won't say for sure, the hope is to get that into CC 4.0 final |
| 01:35.49 | ckknight | I'm not directly involved with the client development, just the service side of things |
| 01:36.35 | Hjalte | That'd be awesome. But of course, you'd still have to backup your wtf folder. |
| 01:37.55 | ckknight | also, we're working on identifying non-Curse addons, and in those cases, we won't upgrade, but will direct to the addon homepage |
| 01:38.05 | ckknight | the non-Curse homepage, that is |
| 01:40.50 | Bruners | ckknight: do you know the status on CC4.0 ? |
| 01:40.56 | Hjalte | Oh, I was thinking of something like that the other day. Will the other addon webpages (read: wowinterface) accept that? |
| 01:40.59 | ckknight | CC 4.0 exists |
| 01:41.01 | ckknight | I've seen it |
| 01:41.22 | ckknight | Hjalte: we direct traffic to WoWI, we don't provide direct links to the zips or anything like that. |
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| 01:41.32 | ckknight | s/don't/won't |
| 01:43.21 | nicoli_s | bruners, coming along very well |
| 01:43.35 | nicoli_s | going to testing for our whole company this week |
| 01:44.04 | Hjalte | How big is Curse? |
| 01:44.20 | nicoli_s | <----> |
| 01:44.38 | Hjalte | Oh, I'd have thought it was bigger. |
| 01:44.44 | nicoli_s | we have like 9 devs at our dev office, no clue at our other |
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| 01:46.41 | Hjalte | The new client page on curse.com looks quite good by the way. |
| 01:46.59 | nicoli_s | thanks, we think so too, will pass it on to him |
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| 02:40.20 | Bruners | cc4 is more or less tits |
| 02:41.01 | Gnarfoz | it's MORE TITS of course |
| 02:41.10 | Gnarfoz | how could you make such a grave error? :p |
| 02:42.43 | Bruners | i must be tired |
| 02:42.51 | Bruners | well i am tired :P |
| 02:43.17 | Bruners | and soon 8 hours of stuffing cheese |
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| 03:44.17 | VonhintenHOME` | Lose Your Illusion, finally... whoever said that fight was the easiest hard mode, can lick my sack! |
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| 03:53.22 | Axodious | there was an addon a while ago to see who was healing vezax and for howm uch, anyone know the name? |
| 03:54.01 | Gnarfoz | StopHealingMobs |
| 03:54.33 | Gnarfoz | depending on your strategy btw, that might be inversion of "who's responsible" though ;) |
| 03:55.34 | pakoz | I'm getting some frame rate issues, can anyone help determine what its coming from? - i took a screenshot of performancefu but I don't know if it is the right data. |
| 03:55.36 | pakoz | http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9070/wowscrnshot061809202617.jpg |
| 03:56.09 | Gnarfoz | you don't even have CPU profiling turned on, how do you expected to figure out what's causing your FPS loss? :) |
| 03:56.40 | Gnarfoz | (also, 30fps mid-25man-fight? I'd call that smooth performance ^^) |
| 03:57.35 | Gnarfoz | counter-question: any idea what mod Kusty is using for that "you stole my mob" announce? :D |
| 03:58.50 | p4aved | pakoz: u need to turn on cpu profliing and run around AV or something |
| 03:58.54 | Gnarfoz | hm, also, is that some kind of debuff monitor or are that just all debuffs on the target? |
| 03:59.12 | Gnarfoz | p4aved: turning it on in a raid would give him the actual numbers :D |
| 03:59.36 | Gnarfoz | ah, it's Auracle |
| 03:59.56 | p4aved | well yeh but cpu profiling is a performance hit, so unless he (potentially) wants to kill his raid frame rate (depending on how hardcore his guild is) AV is a better option |
| 04:00.00 | p4aved | or a farm naxx or something |
| 04:00.47 | Gnarfoz | it's not too bad if you run fullscreen (the performance hit windowed/windowed maximized has is astounding), I raided our whole 25man w/ cpu profiling enabled today :o |
| 04:01.09 | Gnarfoz | (bye bye Pitbull btw :X 20% overall cpu = bad) |
| 04:01.36 | p4aved | pitbull is getting alot better shefki is working hard on optimising it |
| 04:01.52 | p4aved | but yeh i got rid of pitbull awile ago, oUF atm |
| 04:01.56 | Gnarfoz | pb3, obviously |
| 04:02.04 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 04:02.23 | Gnarfoz | can't be arsed to code half my UFs, so no oUF for me, hehe |
| 04:02.52 | p4aved | its not that bad tbh, i just found a layout that had stuff almost how i wanted it and played with size and positioning |
| 04:02.57 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: theres like hundreds of layouts, got to be some of them you like |
| 04:03.04 | Gnarfoz | pb4 w/ DogTas is even worse than pb3, pb4+lua is... just a bit better |
| 04:03.27 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: I want it to look like my pitbull does *now* and it's not just about looks, it's about entire features ;) |
| 04:03.50 | p4aved | what does pitbull do that oUF can't? |
| 04:04.07 | Gnarfoz | oUF has frames for every unit out there by default? |
| 04:04.16 | Bruners | oUF has nothing by default |
| 04:04.20 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
| 04:04.41 | p4aved | thats what we said but, find a layout the is similar to what u want, spend a few hours palying with it |
| 04:04.51 | Gnarfoz | no thanks? :p |
| 04:05.10 | p4aved | how long does pitbull take to set up? |
| 04:05.15 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: post a screenshot of your pitbull :) |
| 04:05.24 | Gnarfoz | I'll use something that doesn't require me to spend hours to figure out if joe-whoever (whose code is probably crap compared to haste's core) implemented what I like |
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| 04:06.46 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I'll try making Shadowed's UFs feel like mine, next |
| 04:06.53 | p4aved | its a good point thought in general it would b nice if there was a way for people to say "ok this addon has great code" or "these addons are known for very low cpu usage" |
| 04:07.01 | Gnarfoz | guess I can skip the intermediate step of pb4 ;) |
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| 04:07.46 | Gnarfoz | I don't even know if this will gain me fps, at all... *that* I can only know afterwards. |
| 04:08.09 | Gnarfoz | single-threaded execution environment ftl :o |
| 04:08.24 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2105 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 04:08.27 | Repo | Updated the libraries to use the complete DewdropLib rather than having an explicit AceLibrary folder. |
| 04:09.02 | ckknight | with the other changes that were done, I'm surprised that you were getting worse fps with PB4 and DogTags than with PB3 |
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| 04:14.56 | Gnarfoz | I wasn't |
| 04:15.00 | Gnarfoz | Shefki was or is |
| 04:15.17 | Gnarfoz | (paraphrased that part from a post of his on MMO-Champion forums) |
| 04:15.41 | pakoz | Gnarfoz |
| 04:15.48 | pakoz | RBS |
| 04:15.52 | pakoz | options > tank warnings |
| 04:16.10 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: still waiting for that screenshot |
| 04:16.17 | pakoz | http://www.wowace.com/projects/raidbuffstatus/ |
| 04:16.17 | Gnarfoz | hehe, I'm too lazy: I have had both pb3 and pb4 installed and Prat and Chatter; both because I want to change over to them (again) some time |
| 04:16.23 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: you're not getting any screenshot |
| 04:16.29 | Gnarfoz | pakoz: I see, thanks |
| 04:17.01 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: why? :(((( |
| 04:17.29 | Gnarfoz | because I dislike the whole "let's make this addon efficient by making it not configurable" concept :P |
| 04:17.48 | Gnarfoz | so oUF isn't on my list of candidates anyway ;) |
| 04:18.02 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: this is just me wanting to look at your setup |
| 04:18.05 | Gnarfoz | (not saying that concept doesn't work, though) |
| 04:18.21 | pakoz | Gnar/p4aved: i will turn on cpu profiling but it updates quite rapidly - what should i look for? |
| 04:18.27 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: and saying "lolol you could do *that* setup with oUF_suchandsuch SO easily why are you even wasting time with sUF?" :D) |
| 04:18.28 | pakoz | Auracle and pitbull do debuff monitors |
| 04:18.45 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: why would i do that? |
| 04:19.06 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: because that's the usual continuation when someone asks that question in the context in which it was asked? ;) |
| 04:20.12 | Gnarfoz | pakoz: PerformanceFu is probably not easy to read for this, dunno if it does aggregate numbers at all. maybe you could use another profiling addon like Resource Tools, InterfaceUsage, OptionLessHouse or something, they all offer sortable lists |
| 04:20.35 | p4aved | optionlesshouse is nice |
| 04:20.40 | p4aved | from what i've used |
| 04:20.49 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it works well enough |
| 04:20.56 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: you where the one complaining about pitbull and about oUF taking to much time to configure. then i said there had to be one layout among the hundreds there is that you liked. |
| 04:21.09 | Shefki | I have som ideas what's causing the DogTags issues in PB4 but I haven't had time to really work on it. |
| 04:21.12 | Gnarfoz | I don't want someone else's layout? :p |
| 04:21.20 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: don't, let them die. hehe. |
| 04:21.21 | Shefki | But PB4+DogTags is downright horrid. |
| 04:21.26 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: this triggered my "maby he has done something interesting with his pitbull" |
| 04:21.36 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: I didn't really ;) |
| 04:21.39 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: If I'm right, it'll help LuaTexts too. |
| 04:21.51 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: by all means, go ahead, then ;D |
| 04:21.57 | Shefki | It just shows more with DogTags becuase DogTags is bad already. |
| 04:22.10 | pakoz | i like dog tags because i already have it configured :*( |
| 04:22.25 | Shefki | pakoz: I hear ya. |
| 04:22.25 | Gnarfoz | OptionLessHouse is nice enough, but the frame is both HUGE and not resizable (and I think it's even clamped to the screen? :D) |
| 04:22.40 | Gnarfoz | and the "per second" colums are... well, for *that* second, so not really useful |
| 04:22.42 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: I use ResourceTools but it's not really targeted at users. |
| 04:23.04 | Shefki | Only issue I have with it is it labels columns as seconds and it really means miliseconds |
| 04:23.04 | pakoz | and i'm fairly code retarded - and lua seems more complicated |
| 04:23.05 | Gnarfoz | well, users really shouldn't be the ones to have to use CPU profiling in the first place ^^ |
| 04:23.14 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: I agree. |
| 04:23.28 | Gnarfoz | giev multithreaded execution ;\ |
| 04:23.42 | Shefki | Never gonna happen for WoW. |
| 04:23.52 | Gnarfoz | I know, /sadface |
| 04:23.53 | pakoz | isn't wow dual core friendly? |
| 04:24.03 | Gnarfoz | that's a different question, and no it isn't |
| 04:24.07 | pakoz | ah |
| 04:24.25 | Gnarfoz | it's too old to be, funny enough |
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| 04:25.05 | Gnarfoz | to sleep or not to sleep, that is the question |
| 04:25.21 | pakoz | i have wow eating up 34% of my 4 cpus |
| 04:25.47 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: pakoz It's using 90% of one. |
| 04:25.49 | pakoz | maybe i dont understand the term ;[ |
| 04:25.52 | Shefki | bahh |
| 04:26.30 | Gnarfoz | your scheduler is doing it's mojo, if that's what your task manager tells you ^^ |
| 04:27.54 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: We don't call it sleep anymore |
| 04:28.01 | Shirik | we call it "pump"! |
| 04:28.17 | Shirik | silly windows |
| 04:28.18 | Gnarfoz | when did that happen |
| 04:28.20 | Gnarfoz | and when o_O |
| 04:28.34 | Bruners | think i should upgrade my E4400 to a Q9550 |
| 04:28.34 | Shirik | when microsoft decided .net was cool |
| 04:28.45 | Gnarfoz | and I actually meant real-life sleep, curiously enough ^^ |
| 04:28.58 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:29.18 | Shirik | anyway |
| 04:29.23 | Shirik | microsoft has decided to call it a "pumping wait" |
| 04:29.30 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: for wow? won't make much of a difference (maybe a bit, due to increased clock frequency and an even smaller bit due to cache size, but otherwise...) |
| 04:29.41 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: But yeah I don't believe the performance discrepncy between PB4+Dogtags and PB3 are DogTag issues. |
| 04:30.03 | Shefki | I think LuaTexts is just so much more efficient overall that it makes up for the issue. |
| 04:30.17 | Gnarfoz | might as well be :> |
| 04:30.18 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: for everything |
| 04:30.30 | Shefki | But hey what do I know I'm just an ignorant author. |
| 04:30.37 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: well yeah, I don't suppose you'd put in your old CPU for everything else, hehe |
| 04:30.39 | Shefki | I should just use SUF. |
| 04:30.58 | Gnarfoz | gimme some quad-core action so I can encode videos faster :F |
| 04:31.37 | Stanzilla_ | why is Gnarfoz never sleeping |
| 04:31.42 | Stanzilla_ | :O |
| 04:31.43 | Gnarfoz | (I'll still be crippled by my craptastic 3M/0.2M DSL :P) |
| 04:31.51 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I'm a statistic. |
| 04:31.51 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: E4400 is not even in sale anymore :P |
| 04:32.04 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: look under "Arbeitssuchende" :D |
| 04:32.33 | Stanzilla_ | hehe :D |
| 04:32.56 | Gnarfoz | oh btw, didn't take them long to go from CP to video games on that censorship thing |
| 04:33.06 | Gnarfoz | (are you following fefe's blog? ^^) |
| 04:33.14 | Stanzilla_ | not really |
| 04:33.26 | Stanzilla_ | but http://cdu-bundestag.de/ was funny |
| 04:33.31 | Gnarfoz | http://asset.soup.io/asset/0357/7648_cf4f_480.png ^^ |
| 04:34.02 | Stanzilla_ | lol |
| 04:34.15 | Gnarfoz | also: http://www.mediengestalter.cc/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/zensursula1.jpg |
| 04:34.38 | Gnarfoz | I like the 2nd one better :o |
| 04:36.52 | NivFreak | Antiarc: http://pastey.net/116286 |
| 04:36.53 | Stanzilla_ | yup, awesome |
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| 04:53.47 | Primer | So I discontinued my FriendlyArrow addon |
| 04:54.13 | Torhal | Why? |
| 04:54.16 | Primer | I put up a link to TomTomPing on my addon's page with a note telling people to use that |
| 04:54.22 | Torhal | Oh |
| 04:54.26 | Primer | I don't have time to add new features |
| 04:54.36 | Primer | and this dude has passed me up on features |
| 04:54.52 | Torhal | Doesn't mean yours should die. |
| 04:54.54 | Primer | despite me starting first |
| 04:54.54 | Torhal | shrugs. |
| 04:55.16 | Primer | well, the page remains |
| 04:55.33 | Primer | I think mine might still have a feature or two his doesn't |
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| 05:08.07 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r185 / (7 files in 1 directory): - added option to filter loot by item level in options |
| 05:08.10 | Repo | - added display on AskCost and cost edit to show item level in edit box for reference |
| 05:08.35 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.30 * r186 : Tagging as 2.2.30 |
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| 05:10.19 | Primer | yeah, this dude's addon is way better than mine |
| 05:10.59 | Repo | 10libtourist-3-0: 03Sutorix * r87 LibTourist-3.0.lua: |
| 05:11.01 | Torhal | More features != better. |
| 05:11.02 | Repo | LibTourist-3-0: Update/add minimum fishing skill information. |
| 05:14.01 | Primer | Torhal: He's got features in there that I was planning |
| 05:14.32 | Torhal | Doesn't mean it's a better addon, is all I'm saying. His code could be insane resource-wise. |
| 05:14.35 | Primer | there was one quirky thing though..in pure mouseover mode, the arrow is always there, despite there not being anyone moused over |
| 05:14.57 | Primer | all the heavy lifting is done by TomTom...presuming he coded it well |
| 05:15.23 | Primer | I'm giving it a thumbs up for now |
| 05:15.32 | Torhal | nods. |
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| 05:16.43 | Primer | Is there a profiler for addons? |
| 05:17.11 | Primer | Something that could tell how many addons have update handlers and how frequently they run? |
| 05:18.26 | Torhal | Primer: There's this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7175-ResourceTools.html |
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| 05:20.21 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta2 GearGauge.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed argument check in ShowGear(). |
| 05:20.25 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 04beta2 * 6ae285e /: [new tag] Tagging as beta2. |
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| 05:21.17 | Celess | packager break? |
| 05:21.43 | Celess | http://www.wowace.com/projects/ka_raid-tracker/ |
| 05:22.37 | Celess | r185 packaged and shows, tagged as v2.2.30 not showing |
| 05:23.00 | Celess | about 13 mins ago |
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| 05:46.51 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r187 RaidTracker.toc: - try packager again |
| 05:47.18 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.31 * r188 : Tagging as 2.2.31 |
| 05:49.57 | Celess | hmmm |
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| 05:52.19 | Celess | something not right :) |
| 05:54.27 | Torhal | I see the files for the tag. |
| 05:58.04 | Celess | 185 was supposed to release as 186/v2.2.30 |
| 05:58.18 | Celess | i bumped the veriosn |
| 05:59.07 | Celess | tagged as v2.2.31, and it built r187 then release as 2.2.30 |
| 05:59.27 | Celess | like its a tag behind? |
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| 06:02.30 | Torhal | Hmm |
| 06:02.34 | Torhal | ckknight: Feh. |
| 06:14.20 | Elkano | looking over the 3.2 patch notes, they mut be kidding, aren't they? especially wrt the changes to the interface |
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| 06:15.20 | Torhal | I keep telling people that they replaced the interns with the janitors, but NOBODY BELIEVES ME! |
| 06:18.35 | Elkano | well, there's a bunch of stuff that has been wanted for years... turn off XP, allways see vendor value, ... |
| 06:19.00 | Torhal | Yah |
| 06:19.08 | Torhal | Almost seems like an April Fools' joke |
| 06:20.07 | haste | someone please kill quickhealth. |
| 06:31.35 | NeoTron | no kidding |
| 06:32.06 | Torhal | Bwah? |
| 06:38.23 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r36 embeds.xml: - Fixes embeds so they should properly load now. |
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| 06:39.09 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r37 Changelog.txt: - Changelog update |
| 06:39.31 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.4.6 * r38 : Tagging as v0.4.6 |
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| 06:46.35 | sb|work | morning |
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| 07:04.54 | Groktar | http://www.pr0kforums.com/images/rotate/largest_drainhole.jpg |
| 07:04.58 | Groktar | IS GOING TO EET YOU |
| 07:06.53 | Shefki | Groktar: Is that photoshopped or real. |
| 07:06.58 | Groktar | real |
| 07:07.08 | Groktar | monticello damn in california |
| 07:07.08 | Shefki | Where is that at? |
| 07:07.22 | Groktar | http://fogonazos.blogspot.com/2007/02/largest-drain-hole-ever.html |
| 07:10.12 | Fisker | sb|work |
| 07:10.16 | Fisker | battle report 3 is fail |
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| 07:17.38 | sb|work | Fisker: huh? |
| 07:17.53 | sb|work | ah i see |
| 07:18.31 | Fisker | The other guy does "Terrible terrible damage" (terrible terrible failure) |
| 07:18.47 | Fisker | And it is, of course, scripted so much it's even more retarded than BR2 |
| 07:19.04 | Fisker | "Oh he must have spotted those units with an overlord" |
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| 07:19.11 | Fisker | rewinds, nope nothing. |
| 07:20.03 | Fisker | i lol'd @ the new emblem changes |
| 07:20.24 | Fisker | It's even more retarded than battle report 3 |
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| 07:30.48 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta3 embeds.xml: [+1 commit] Fixed LibItemBonus-2.0 reference. |
| 07:30.54 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 04beta3 * 21da4f9 /: [new tag] Tagging as beta3. |
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| 07:53.51 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: what the hell did you create the new site layout with |
| 07:54.29 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: its like all the comments have to redraw when i scroll the page |
| 07:54.39 | Groktar | looks |
| 07:55.07 | Groktar | comments? |
| 07:55.08 | Arrowmaster | 100% cpu usage just from scrolling the mouse wheel |
| 07:55.13 | Groktar | like on a project page? |
| 07:55.22 | Arrowmaster | on any project page or ticket page or even announcement |
| 07:56.18 | Groktar | which browser? |
| 07:56.31 | Arrowmaster | firefox |
| 07:56.37 | Groktar | hrm |
| 07:56.47 | Groktar | i see the cpu usage go up a teeny bit |
| 07:56.57 | Xinhuan | firefox plugins maybe? |
| 07:57.16 | Groktar | but i'm not seeing any weird behavior otherwise |
| 07:57.39 | Arrowmaster | i have an old ass computer |
| 07:57.41 | Groktar | and looking at the source it's just html |
| 07:57.44 | Groktar | nothing weird goin on |
| 07:57.47 | FtH|Daemona | mount fishing protection? anyone care to explain what thats supposed to do? (Badboy changelog) |
| 07:58.30 | Groktar | well, there's something interesting going on with the date stuff |
| 07:59.14 | Groktar | i guess there's a little javascript goin on that changes the date to how long ago it was posted |
| 07:59.19 | Groktar | but nothing other than that |
| 07:59.22 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:02.05 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Make sure your mouse isn't inside the comment box. |
| 08:02.17 | Shefki | There are buttons that only show on the comment your mouse is currently in. |
| 08:02.25 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 08:02.29 | Shefki | That's probably what's killing your scroll performance. |
| 08:02.33 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:02.45 | Arrowmaster | web2.0 is killing it |
| 08:02.51 | Groktar | haha |
| 08:03.03 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: I don't even know WTF web 2.0 is. |
| 08:03.15 | Groktar | pretty sure he's making a joke |
| 08:03.23 | Shefki | However, if wowace is web 2.0 now it's like 5 years late to the party. |
| 08:03.42 | nevcairiel | I wish i could punch everyone that even says "web 2.0" |
| 08:04.14 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Ok web 4.0 |
| 08:04.20 | Shefki | It's 2 times better than web 2.0 |
| 08:05.08 | nevcairiel | its all bogus, some marketing idiots cooked up some term and put it on their websites, and now everyone re-defines the term to fit their needs |
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| 08:05.32 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i only use it in a derogatory manor, does that count? |
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| 08:05.46 | Groktar | IT MEANS LOTS AND LOTS OF FLASH AND JAVASCRIPT AND ROUNDED CORNERS |
| 08:05.54 | Groktar | oops caps |
| 08:06.00 | nevcairiel | yeah right, because rounded corners are such an innovation =P |
| 08:06.05 | Groktar | hehe |
| 08:06.13 | Torhal | Better than squared wheels. |
| 08:06.16 | Groktar | dislikes rounded corners, tbh |
| 08:06.21 | End | back in my day, we took our square corners and liked it! |
| 08:06.49 | Groktar | casts end into the pit -> http://www.pr0kforums.com/images/rotate/largest_drainhole.jpg |
| 08:07.14 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck is this shit |
| 08:07.15 | Arrowmaster | http://static.wowace.com/wowace/scripts/compiled/base.js?r=151469e0d5 |
| 08:07.33 | nevcairiel | its jQuery |
| 08:07.39 | Groktar | extremely readable javascript! |
| 08:07.53 | Groktar | should take out the line returns |
| 08:07.57 | Groktar | they're making it too easy for us |
| 08:08.03 | nevcairiel | seriously |
| 08:08.08 | nevcairiel | JS with line breaks in it? |
| 08:08.09 | nevcairiel | whats this? |
| 08:08.10 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 08:09.17 | Arrowmaster | you know im far too lazy to install something like fraps to show you this behavior |
| 08:09.29 | Arrowmaster | i wonder where my digital camera is, it records videos |
| 08:10.47 | Kalroth | http://code.google.com/p/jqueryjs/downloads/detail?name=jquery-1.3.2.min.js vs |
| 08:10.48 | Kalroth | http://code.google.com/p/jqueryjs/downloads/detail?name=jquery-1.3.2.js |
| 08:10.56 | Kalroth | 101KB size diff |
| 08:12.56 | nevcairiel | 117 vs 55 is not 101 in my book |
| 08:12.58 | nevcairiel | but okay :P |
| 08:13.24 | Kalroth | the min.js version is gzipped! |
| 08:14.28 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Your book doesn't use the special codes, though. Or were they ciphers? Bah. |
| 08:15.58 | orionshock | ptr up yet? |
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| 08:19.01 | Groktar | nope |
| 08:19.15 | Groktar | i wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't go up till mon or wed |
| 08:19.35 | Groktar | since they don't have any warrior changes in yet |
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| 08:29.32 | Arrowmaster | the extent of my lazyness knows no bounds |
| 08:29.45 | Arrowmaster | uploading 12 sec video from digital camera now |
| 08:31.57 | Groktar | devours Arrowmaster's video |
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| 08:32.46 | Arrowmaster | http://arrowmaster.net/MVI_0394.AVI |
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| 08:33.06 | Arrowmaster | its in shitty motion jpeg |
| 08:33.25 | Arrowmaster | and has uneeded PCM sound |
| 08:34.39 | Arrowmaster | do you see it? |
| 08:34.54 | Groktar | sighs and clicks |
| 08:35.58 | Groktar | you need more tabs open |
| 08:36.00 | Groktar | imo |
| 08:36.11 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 08:36.22 | Arrowmaster | i barely have any open |
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| 08:53.24 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r48 EnsidiaFails.lua: Freya - Sonic Screech, dead ppl don't fail on it |
| 08:53.36 | haste | or do they? |
| 08:53.46 | haste | if they are dead they've already failed! |
| 08:57.16 | Caleb| | then they got the fail for it already |
| 08:58.15 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta3-3-g2fb43f0 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 08:58.18 | Repo | 2fb43f0: Meh. Added AceDB, AceConfig, and AceGUI to .pkgmeta and embeds.xml |
| 08:58.21 | Repo | b62ccc5: Added more entries to BONUS_VALUE table. |
| 08:58.25 | Repo | c143787: Added ATTACKPOWER-BEAST/DEMON/DRAGON/ELEMENTAL. |
| 09:04.17 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta3-4-g756334a Localization/dev_enUS.lua: [+1 commit] Updated developer English strings. |
| 09:04.46 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 04beta4 * d28f037 /: [new tag] Tagging as beta4. |
| 09:15.21 | mitch0 | "Replenishment: This buff now grants 1% of the target's maximum mana over 5 seconds instead of 0.25% per second. This applies to all 5 sources of Replenishment (Vampiric Touch, Judgements of the Wise, Hunting Party, Enduring Winter Frostbolts and Soul Leech)." |
| 09:15.36 | mitch0 | is it enough to fix the mage replenishment issue? |
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| 09:18.49 | Torhal | mitch0: If the issue is that they're getting too much back, maybe. |
| 09:19.04 | mitch0 | no |
| 09:19.07 | Torhal | That's a nerf, considering they were getting 1% every four seconds. |
| 09:19.13 | Torhal | Now it's 1% per 5 |
| 09:19.19 | mitch0 | the issue was that it applied too often, resetting the ticks |
| 09:19.26 | Torhal | Ah. |
| 09:19.34 | nevcairiel | and how is that a mage related issue? |
| 09:19.48 | mitch0 | only mages applied it at ~2sec intervals |
| 09:20.00 | mitch0 | all the others did it about 6-8 secs |
| 09:20.07 | mitch0 | (afaik) |
| 09:20.45 | mitch0 | mages applied it at every frostbolt cast (with enduring winter 3/3) |
| 09:20.57 | nevcairiel | you could like, just spec one point in it |
| 09:20.59 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 09:21.02 | mitch0 | presently the fix is to only spec 1/3 |
| 09:21.14 | mitch0 | yeah :) but that's 10sec less of WE life |
| 09:21.52 | mitch0 | but if it still restarts the ticks, it'll be even worse, come to think of it |
| 09:22.21 | mitch0 | the replenishment will be reset every 2 secs, thus no time for even a single tick... |
| 09:22.52 | nevcairiel | It'll just increase your mp5 value |
| 09:23.11 | mitch0 | ah, so no more resetting and stuff |
| 09:23.12 | mitch0 | cool |
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| 09:23.30 | mitch0 | then I'm back to 0/0/71 :) |
| 09:25.34 | mitch0 | Avg Daily DL: 666 |
| 09:25.40 | mitch0 | my addon is teh evil! :) |
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| 09:29.18 | FtH|Daemona | uuh is there a config mode in grid i havent found yet or is it "enter av" ? |
| 09:29.30 | mitch0 | :) |
| 09:30.03 | nevcairiel | enter av always works |
| 09:30.21 | mitch0 | "Casting bars under a target's portrait will now indicate whether or not the cast can be interrupted." <- this is for npc's, right? |
| 09:31.01 | FtH|Daemona | sure, because you can interupt any spell by a player no? |
| 09:31.24 | mitch0 | that's what I thought |
| 09:31.33 | mitch0 | hehe: Nth iteration: Macros and scripts will no longer be able to target totems by name. |
| 09:32.20 | mitch0 | some addons bite the dust with this patch again (sellfish, doublewide) |
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| 09:44.38 | sztanpet | á is multiple bytes in utf-8 right? |
| 09:44.51 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:44.53 | sztanpet | oh wait, i can test that easily, nevermind |
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| 09:49.25 | mitch0 | sztanpet: useful link: http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp |
| 09:49.44 | sztanpet | oh nice, ty |
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| 09:57.34 | mitch0 | actually, I had an even better one which showed encodings, too, but I can't find it :( |
| 09:59.09 | Arrowmaster | fileformat.info? |
| 09:59.27 | mitch0 | could be it... lemme check |
| 09:59.37 | mitch0 | yay! thanks |
| 09:59.40 | mitch0 | bookmarks |
| 09:59.56 | Arrowmaster | http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00e1/index.htm |
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| 10:04.33 | Repo | 10tankmastery: 03ahmetqw * r33 TankMastery.lua: |
| 10:04.36 | Repo | * The occasional 'nil' problems should be fixed now. Let's see... |
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| 10:15.35 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r5721 Ulduar (3 files in 1 directory): deDE updates |
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| 10:38.04 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r49 EnsidiaFails.lua: |
| 10:38.07 | Repo | make after combat reporting style a bit nice (cut the trailing ,) |
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| 11:14.38 | Caleb| | I need a lot of things |
| 11:14.43 | Caleb| | starting with a rack of ice cold beer |
| 11:14.47 | Caleb| | thats what I need right now! |
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| 12:22.36 | Industrial | Torhal|Sleep: ping |
| 12:24.05 | Industrial | Anyone here use GearGauge? |
| 12:24.35 | Industrial | I dont understand how it works :\ I want to see my own stats but no idea how. I just get "unable to scan target" |
| 12:27.13 | Kalroth | Industrial: it only says that for players with really crappy gear! |
| 12:27.55 | Industrial | let me tickle myself, sec |
| 12:27.57 | Industrial | ok. haha. |
| 12:28.51 | spode | I just tried it and it seemed to have scanned me without me doing anything |
| 12:29.06 | Industrial | it doesnt scan myself :S im not in the list |
| 12:29.20 | spode | I'm not either |
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| 12:29.48 | spode | still when I mousevover the broker thingy it shows all my gear and gives me ratings and stuff |
| 12:30.37 | Industrial | I dont use broker |
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| 12:43.18 | Repo | 10little-wigs-tbc: 03yoshimo * r7 / (19 files in 4 directories): deDE updated, still missing a few triggers &checks |
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| 13:03.05 | steev | zomg curse premium is awesome |
| 13:09.34 | steev | ack, new bejeweled wipes high scores :( |
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| 13:15.24 | steev | so, did heroic UP last night |
| 13:15.37 | steev | was trying and trying to get another guildie into the group |
| 13:15.42 | steev | ended up having to pug 1 |
| 13:15.55 | steev | down skadi... loot... mount drops... pug wins it |
| 13:16.26 | SunTsu | steev: Welcome to World of Murphycraft |
| 13:16.41 | steev | what i find most awesome about that |
| 13:16.55 | steev | is the fact that there was a person on in guild who desperately wants that mount |
| 13:17.02 | steev | and i tried repeatedly to get them to go |
| 13:17.17 | steev | i offered to dps so they could tank |
| 13:17.24 | steev | or tank so they could bring their enh shaman |
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| 13:18.06 | steev | and of course, last night was ulduar 25, and im on my dps dk, and the tanking sigil drops |
| 13:18.32 | SunTsu | steev: you can lead a horse to water... |
| 13:18.45 | steev | heh |
| 13:18.46 | steev | but |
| 13:18.48 | steev | in good news |
| 13:18.55 | steev | we did at least get thorim and freya down again |
| 13:18.59 | steev | freya sorta bugged |
| 13:19.05 | steev | she didn't do any pods at all |
| 13:19.13 | SunTsu | I know, the next time I'm in ulduar everything I ever wanted from there will drop |
| 13:19.36 | steev | eh, there were a few upgrades that dropped but others still needed em |
| 13:19.38 | SunTsu | just because I quit plaing on 26th *g* |
| 13:19.45 | steev | tonight i lead a 10 man run |
| 13:19.49 | steev | assuming i get enough people |
| 13:19.50 | SunTsu | playing, that is |
| 13:19.59 | steev | tomorrow i dps for the first 10 man run |
| 13:27.07 | Xinhuan | woo Champion of Ulduar complete, +1 title |
| 13:28.06 | steev | congrats |
| 13:28.49 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: grats |
| 13:40.38 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: nice! |
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| 13:56.25 | steev | our raid leader has the quest for alganon |
| 13:56.32 | steev | but we've still only downed mimiron once in 10 |
| 13:57.04 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: heroic?! |
| 13:57.12 | steev | we have too many people that only show up on 25 nights |
| 13:57.23 | Xinhuan | 10-man |
| 13:57.46 | steev | and even then its only 2 nights that they show (or 1) |
| 13:57.56 | Kalroth | 10-man is very doable, it's only Mimiron that's hard in any way |
| 13:58.00 | steev | i posted in the forums that i was gonna get a run for ulduar 10 |
| 13:58.01 | steev | tonight |
| 13:58.07 | steev | got a ton of, ill go ill go posts |
| 13:58.16 | steev | so i throw out the invites on the game calendar.... and they decline |
| 13:59.00 | Xinhuan | nah mimiron wasn't the hardest for us lol |
| 13:59.11 | steev | it was flame leviathan |
| 13:59.13 | Xinhuan | it was general |
| 13:59.15 | Kalroth | just tell people not to sign up unless they intend to come, steev |
| 13:59.17 | steev | we've downed general |
| 13:59.17 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: what |
| 13:59.21 | steev | Kalroth: yeah, im gonna |
| 13:59.26 | Kalroth | Vezax on 10 man is super easy |
| 13:59.33 | steev | or they want 10 man to run "same times as normal" |
| 13:59.35 | Kalroth | 1 tank, 2 healers, 7 dps |
| 13:59.47 | steev | instead of until its clear |
| 14:00.37 | Kalroth | well we only raid 25 man 4 days a week, so it's normally easy to find at least 1 day to do 10 mans |
| 14:01.14 | steev | we're *lucky* if we get 3 days |
| 14:01.49 | Kalroth | oh |
| 14:02.08 | cauchy | (15:59:13) < Xinhuan> it was general |
| 14:02.10 | cauchy | what? |
| 14:02.20 | steev | what what |
| 14:02.28 | steev | their healers were running out of mana most likely |
| 14:02.32 | Xinhuan | shadow dodging is harder than dodging rockets for us lol |
| 14:02.41 | cauchy | are you shitting me |
| 14:02.52 | cauchy | vezax is easy mode on 10man |
| 14:03.00 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 14:03.08 | cauchy | can't be easier |
| 14:03.15 | Xinhuan | just need firefighter now zzz |
| 14:03.20 | Xinhuan | got the rest done |
| 14:03.30 | Kalroth | on 25 man? |
| 14:03.35 | Xinhuan | 10 |
| 14:03.35 | steev | cauchy: some people have issues with different bosses, almost no fights are actually hard |
| 14:03.43 | Xinhuan | 25s still need freya+3 and firefighter |
| 14:04.00 | Kalroth | aaaah, Champion is the dont-die thingy |
| 14:04.05 | Grum | Xinhuan: you already did steelpanties? |
| 14:04.06 | cauchy | steev: i stand strong in my belive that mimiron hard is harder than anything |
| 14:04.16 | Xinhuan | tomorrow grum |
| 14:04.20 | Xinhuan | he's easy |
| 14:04.28 | Grum | what setup are you taking? |
| 14:04.37 | Grum | 2/5/18 ? |
| 14:04.44 | Kalroth | I was thinking of Glory of the Ulduar Raider :p |
| 14:04.49 | Kalroth | got that this week |
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| 14:05.38 | cauchy | Xinhuan: so for you vezax hard was harder than mimiron? |
| 14:05.43 | cauchy | really? |
| 14:05.46 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 14:05.50 | cauchy | wow |
| 14:05.51 | Kalroth | not hard mode, cauchy |
| 14:05.58 | cauchy | ah |
| 14:06.01 | thul | Jesus is hardest. |
| 14:06.03 | thul | mkey? |
| 14:06.04 | Kalroth | undying, I think |
| 14:06.09 | thul | Jesus, Fisker and thul on their crosses. |
| 14:06.10 | cauchy | Kalroth: ahhhhh |
| 14:06.14 | cauchy | ok, that makes sence |
| 14:06.16 | Grum | Vezax is quite doable |
| 14:06.25 | Grum | Xinhuan: do you rekill all hardmodes each week? |
| 14:06.27 | cauchy | i was thinking only of hard modes |
| 14:06.30 | Grum | or just do another new one? |
| 14:06.32 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 14:06.33 | Kalroth | Mimiron hard mode >>>>>>>>>> Vezax hard mode |
| 14:06.38 | cauchy | aye |
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| 14:07.06 | Pneumatus | we've found mimiron the hardest (10man) as well |
| 14:07.11 | Pneumatus | got everything apart from firefighter :< |
| 14:07.33 | Grum | 25m is a whole different level of pain |
| 14:07.35 | Kalroth | I think it's something like XT > Levi+4 > Hodir > Thorim > Steel > Yogg-3 > Freya+3 > Mimiron |
| 14:07.36 | cauchy | i'm rather casual |
| 14:07.55 | Pneumatus | lev+4 is easier than xt now |
| 14:07.56 | Grum | Kalroth: yeah that is right imho |
| 14:08.01 | Pneumatus | its like, zzz trivial since it got nerfed |
| 14:08.05 | Grum | xt is nerfed as well |
| 14:08.08 | Grum | we oneshotted it o.O |
| 14:08.09 | Kalroth | XT is equally easy |
| 14:08.16 | cauchy | i find steelbreaker easier than hodir and thorim btw |
| 14:08.24 | Kalroth | on 10 man, sure |
| 14:08.27 | Kalroth | not on 25 man :) |
| 14:08.28 | cauchy | yes |
| 14:08.28 | steev | steelbreaker last? |
| 14:08.29 | Pneumatus | steelbreaker 10man is esier than hodir/thorim |
| 14:08.29 | Grum | euh how do you do that one cauchy? |
| 14:08.31 | cauchy | damn you |
| 14:08.33 | Pneumatus | its a lot harder on 25man |
| 14:08.34 | steev | thats the one that gives us the most issues |
| 14:08.35 | Grum | that is 25m |
| 14:08.52 | cauchy | you jump from 10man to 25man, from hard modes to immortals |
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| 14:08.55 | cauchy | and i'm getting lost |
| 14:08.55 | cauchy | ! |
| 14:09.00 | cauchy | all your fault Kalroth ! |
| 14:09.06 | Kalroth | on 10 man none of the hard modes are hard, except Mimiron |
| 14:09.18 | Grum | Freya+3 is tough |
| 14:09.22 | Grum | but really doable |
| 14:09.24 | cauchy | on 25man i agree Kalroth |
| 14:09.26 | Pneumatus | steelbreaker 25man is FAR more of a test than 10man, 10man you can just 2 tanks 3 healers zerg it |
| 14:09.39 | Grum | did people here do it on 25m? |
| 14:09.42 | Grum | if so -- what setup? :D |
| 14:09.43 | Kalroth | on 25 man it's Steelbreaker, Yogg-3, Freya+3 and Mimiron that's hard |
| 14:09.51 | Pneumatus | we got him to 9%, 2 tanks 6 healers |
| 14:09.55 | Kalroth | Grum: yes, 2 tanks, 6 healers |
| 14:10.05 | Kalroth | we've done him several times with that setup, |
| 14:10.06 | Pneumatus | our dps was just a little bit off :< |
| 14:10.10 | cauchy | and whole bunch of good dps |
| 14:10.21 | Kalroth | medium -> small -> big |
| 14:10.26 | Kalroth | 4 tanking phases in P3 |
| 14:10.26 | cauchy | Grum: ask your melee to swap targets at 4% of second add |
| 14:10.28 | Grum | 3 charges? so kill in 79 seconds? |
| 14:10.36 | Kalroth | 119 seconds |
| 14:10.40 | Pneumatus | 30 seconds per debuff |
| 14:10.50 | Grum | 4 tanking phases? ugh |
| 14:11.03 | Kalroth | we got good healers and crappy dps, so :) |
| 14:11.17 | Grum | so it is less than 30 seconds on all but the last one |
| 14:11.21 | Kalroth | just bring a retlol and he'll do 25% of the healing in P3 |
| 14:11.26 | Pneumatus | 28 seconds per tank ideally |
| 14:11.36 | Grum | what is the range of the explosion? |
| 14:11.40 | Pneumatus | 15 yards |
| 14:11.53 | Grum | 2s with body&soul yeah |
| 14:12.01 | Grum | otherwise 3 |
| 14:12.02 | Kalroth | we do: warrior (no cooldowns) -> druid/DK (no cooldowns) -> same warrior (cooldowns) -> same druid/DK (cooldowns) |
| 14:12.05 | Grum | so 27+27+29 |
| 14:12.50 | Pneumatus | we do 2 sec without body and soul |
| 14:12.57 | Pneumatus | we just position in a triangle so the tanks dont have to run far |
| 14:13.14 | Pneumatus | and we do DK -> warrior -> back to DK |
| 14:13.48 | Grum | mmm |
| 14:14.01 | Grum | so you ahve 17 dps for 28+28+28+29 seconds? |
| 14:14.05 | Kalroth | I want to do a small -> medium -> big kill though, but rune of death + rune of power causes way too many tank gibs |
| 14:14.10 | Kalroth | Grum: yes |
| 14:14.19 | Kalroth | it's more though |
| 14:14.23 | Pneumatus | yeh, medium 2nd is too risky |
| 14:14.26 | Grum | for 10+.75*3 hp .. mmm |
| 14:14.32 | Kalroth | since it takes ~10 seconds before the first debuff is applied, Grum |
| 14:14.35 | Pneumatus | debuffed player in the middle of a deathrune is a dead player |
| 14:14.43 | Grum | ok so +10 |
| 14:14.49 | Kalroth | roughly |
| 14:14.54 | Pneumatus | you can get 15% roughly before the first tank gets debuffed |
| 14:15.05 | Grum | 123 seconds for 12.250.000 dmg |
| 14:15.47 | Pneumatus | any of you lot doing vezax hard 25man, do you have all your healers respec to max mana/regem for int? |
| 14:15.57 | Grum | our healers just do it |
| 14:16.02 | Grum | we did it to ~50% animus |
| 14:16.05 | Grum | and then ran out of time |
| 14:16.26 | Kalroth | on our kill - 20:16:20.535 Brundir dies and 20:18:17.640 Steelbreaker dies. |
| 14:16.38 | Pneumatus | my 31k mana on vexax still doesnt last long enough :< |
| 14:16.44 | Grum | we used the 'all ranged in 1 black spot' tactic -- but we had some problems with ranged reacting on the mark |
| 14:16.50 | cauchy | wait wait |
| 14:16.52 | Kalroth | so under 120 seconds, but we had some early taunts too |
| 14:17.02 | cauchy | Grum: where did you change from steelbreaker to vezax? |
| 14:17.04 | Grum | Kalroth: yeah 123 seconds is tight |
| 14:17.18 | Grum | cauchy: just after Pneumatus talked ;) |
| 14:17.23 | Kalroth | [16:15] <Pneumatus> any of you lot doing vezax hard 25man <- here, cauchy |
| 14:17.25 | Grum | anyhow |
| 14:17.30 | cauchy | damn, imma blind |
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| 14:17.59 | Grum | 4 tank phases, 120 seconds means 6005 dps per person for 17 people |
| 14:18.09 | Kalroth | yes |
| 14:18.14 | Pneumatus | that includes the 3 heals? |
| 14:18.18 | Grum | yes |
| 14:18.24 | Kalroth | yeah, 13 million damage |
| 14:18.27 | Grum | each heal is 1.5million minus mortal strike effect |
| 14:18.31 | Kalroth | no |
| 14:18.35 | Kalroth | 2 million |
| 14:18.41 | Kalroth | it's 20% without MS, it's 10% with |
| 14:18.42 | Grum | hmm movies tell different |
| 14:18.47 | Kalroth | and he got 10 million health |
| 14:18.49 | Kalroth | trust me :p |
| 14:19.02 | Grum | oh meh i read it in a log today even |
| 14:19.03 | Pneumatus | 10% with MS sounds like what i've seen |
| 14:19.05 | Grum | yeah 1million |
| 14:19.05 | cauchy | kalroth's righrt |
| 14:19.15 | cauchy | so that makes 13 mil |
| 14:19.19 | Grum | indeed |
| 14:19.26 | Pneumatus | MS effect will be up all the time assuming you have a rogue anyway |
| 14:19.28 | cauchy | 120 secs |
| 14:19.39 | Grum | that is 6373 dps |
| 14:19.43 | Kalroth | even with an arms warrior it will be, Pneumatus |
| 14:20.00 | cauchy | 110 raid dps |
| 14:20.18 | Pneumatus | our dps warrior is fury, and our tank is specced down to trauma i think ;) |
| 14:20.29 | Grum | cauchy: 108333k |
| 14:20.31 | Pneumatus | no kitty :< |
| 14:20.32 | cauchy | yes |
| 14:20.36 | Kalroth | your dps warrior should be Arms if he's the only one :p |
| 14:20.37 | cauchy | Grum: i rounded it up |
| 14:20.39 | Kalroth | bye, leaving work! |
| 14:20.44 | cauchy | since rdps can be jumpy |
| 14:20.50 | thul | question: HaT worth it? for raiding? or is combat swords or mutilate the only choice? |
| 14:20.59 | cauchy | go combat |
| 14:21.50 | steev | what is hat? |
| 14:22.00 | thul | Honor Among Thieves. |
| 14:22.02 | steev | ahh |
| 14:22.28 | kadrahil | we one shot 25man thorim hard last night :O |
| 14:22.41 | kadrahil | i hate wiping on that fight |
| 14:22.52 | cauchy | thorim hard is hard |
| 14:22.56 | cauchy | because you have to move |
| 14:23.00 | kadrahil | not saying it is |
| 14:23.00 | Grum | hummmz |
| 14:23.13 | cauchy | kadrahil: i'm ironic |
| 14:23.14 | kadrahil | it just sucks when someone screws it up and there's a 5% wipe |
| 14:23.15 | kadrahil | heh |
| 14:23.16 | Grum | cauchy: doesnt the boss heal up between phases? |
| 14:23.30 | cauchy | Grum: steelbreaker? |
| 14:23.33 | Grum | yeah |
| 14:23.39 | cauchy | but we've counted that |
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| 14:23.45 | cauchy | he initially have 10 mil hp |
| 14:23.56 | kadrahil | we're gonna be working on council hard again on sunday |
| 14:23.57 | cauchy | after each tank death he gains 1 mil |
| 14:23.59 | kadrahil | fun times |
| 14:24.02 | Grum | combatlogs dont show him doing heals |
| 14:24.26 | cauchy | try to wipe when he's on 50% :> |
| 14:24.34 | kadrahil | lol |
| 14:24.35 | cauchy | before everyone dies he'll be at 100% |
| 14:24.38 | steev | try using aotd on steelbreaker |
| 14:24.39 | steev | hard |
| 14:24.40 | Grum | nah i mean when you kill the other 2 bosses |
| 14:24.43 | steev | then see how much fun it is |
| 14:24.50 | cauchy | Grum: no |
| 14:25.05 | cauchy | ahh i understand what you're saying now |
| 14:25.09 | cauchy | sorry |
| 14:25.20 | cauchy | i've heard that some guild tries to do what you're thinking off |
| 14:25.22 | cauchy | of* |
| 14:25.31 | Pneumatus | its worth a tank popping aotd when they are tanking :o |
| 14:25.32 | Grum | cauchy: you said to have the melee swap at 4% of brundir |
| 14:25.37 | cauchy | they got disapointed because it buged out and wiped them in matter of seconds |
| 14:25.44 | cauchy | Grum: yes |
| 14:25.54 | steev | Pneumatus: only if he's at 5% or less |
| 14:26.04 | cauchy | if melee swap after brundir dies |
| 14:26.12 | Pneumatus | its a good final cooldown for the damage reduction |
| 14:26.12 | p3lim | anyone here with an US account that can post something for me on the official wow forums? |
| 14:26.13 | cauchy | you lose melee dps on last phase |
| 14:26.18 | Grum | why? |
| 14:26.18 | cauchy | because they have to run |
| 14:26.23 | Grum | we tank the last 2 ontop of eachother |
| 14:26.31 | cauchy | in that case it's np |
| 14:26.34 | Grum | and have 1 person standing at range |
| 14:26.38 | steev | Pneumatus: if he pops it too early though, you're screwed as each ghoul will heal him+buff |
| 14:26.42 | p3lim | anyone? |
| 14:26.45 | Pneumatus | true |
| 14:26.56 | cauchy | us is root of all evil |
| 14:26.59 | cauchy | and sliced bread |
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| 14:27.16 | cauchy | Grum: in that case it's np, we tank them seperatly |
| 14:27.19 | steev | who have to run? |
| 14:27.24 | cauchy | me |
| 14:27.26 | cauchy | cya later |
| 14:27.28 | cauchy | ! |
| 14:27.41 | Pneumatus | do drw/ghoul/hunterpets/lockpets deaths buff him too? |
| 14:27.55 | Grum | cauchy: yeah we found that having the raid move for overloads is easier than having the raid spread out for the static charge |
| 14:28.33 | Pneumatus | for p2 we have all the melee on steelbreaker+stormcaller but all ranged at range |
| 14:28.49 | Pneumatus | but spread, so only 1 person gets debuffed at once |
| 14:28.58 | kadrahil | Pneumatus: i wouldn't think so, we used army on our first night of attempts |
| 14:29.10 | Grum | we are ranged-heavy usually |
| 14:29.21 | kadrahil | do you guys kill stormcaller second or runemaster? |
| 14:29.23 | Pneumatus | and melee run out next to steelbreaker for overload, so they dont all get gangbang debuffed |
| 14:29.35 | kadrahil | in 10man we kill runemaster second so we can time it so he drops a rune of power before he dies on steelbreaker |
| 14:29.50 | Grum | deathrunes with ~35k fusion blows is not really doable :) |
| 14:29.55 | Grum | if a healer has to run we wipe :) |
| 14:29.55 | kadrahil | true |
| 14:30.13 | kadrahil | yeah that would be a bad time |
| 14:30.14 | Pneumatus | yeh, healers basically cant stop casting in 25man |
| 14:30.25 | Grum | our shaman gets 4 innervates orso :) |
| 14:30.30 | Pneumatus | the only time i can ever risk pausing, is when steelbreaker starts to cast punch :) |
| 14:30.30 | kadrahil | lol |
| 14:30.38 | Grum | and he just chain chainheals hehe |
| 14:30.38 | Pneumatus | as ive got 3 sec before i need to dispel |
| 14:31.36 | kadrahil | all i lack for my 10man drake is general, mimiron, and yogg+one light hardmodes :( |
| 14:31.52 | Grum | yogg one is easy as well .. |
| 14:31.58 | Grum | we planned 4 hours for it .. and oneshotted it o.O |
| 14:32.00 | kadrahil | yeah, we just haven't put in any attempts yet |
| 14:32.07 | kadrahil | we've been zerg gearing an enhance shaman |
| 14:32.07 | Pneumatus | 1light is easy assuming you have the dps to take down p2 in 2 brain phases |
| 14:32.15 | kadrahil | we should |
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| 14:32.26 | kadrahil | i've heard general is fairly easy as well |
| 14:32.43 | kadrahil | i hate that fight though because i'm on 100% interrupt duty :/ |
| 14:32.49 | Grum | Pneumatus: yeah we got lucky and did it in 2 portals |
| 14:32.50 | Pneumatus | easy with good dps, yeh |
| 14:33.06 | Grum | Vezax on10m is a piss |
| 14:33.07 | kadrahil | interesting |
| 14:33.11 | kadrahil | lol |
| 14:33.18 | Pneumatus | Grum: we hero the first portal and get the brain to ~60% |
| 14:33.23 | Pneumatus | and then finish it off 2nd portal |
| 14:33.25 | kadrahil | nice |
| 14:33.47 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 14:33.51 | Pneumatus | 1 tank, 2 healers, 3 casters, 4 melee |
| 14:33.52 | Bruners | morning Kaelten |
| 14:33.55 | Pneumatus | melee go in the brain :) |
| 14:34.05 | kadrahil | well yeah :P |
| 14:34.07 | Grum | the only real problem with Vezax 10 is threat on animus |
| 14:34.15 | kadrahil | ah |
| 14:34.33 | Grum | i can push 10-11k tps while just doing mindflay O.o |
| 14:34.37 | kadrahil | yeah if we get mimiron tonight i think we'll probably get general and yogg on sunday or monday |
| 14:34.46 | kadrahil | that would be ideal, anyway |
| 14:34.49 | Grum | kadrahil: what is the progress on mimi sofar? |
| 14:34.58 | kadrahil | Grum: we're getting him into P3 every time |
| 14:35.14 | kadrahil | Grum: but the little jerk fire extinguisher bots.. :p |
| 14:35.15 | Stanzilla_ | I hate mimiron :( |
| 14:35.23 | Grum | what tactics do you use for p2? |
| 14:35.30 | Stanzilla_ | last week we went to p4 28% in the first try and every try after that was worse |
| 14:35.37 | kadrahil | we group up to kite the fires back to one side of the room |
| 14:35.41 | Grum | we split in 1 groups while hugging the left over fire from p1 |
| 14:35.45 | Grum | s/1/2 |
| 14:35.46 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 14:35.56 | Grum | so the next explosions are near the old ones |
| 14:35.59 | kadrahil | yep |
| 14:36.00 | Grum | and then just dps like mad |
| 14:36.20 | Grum | one healer takes 4 and one takes 2 + melee |
| 14:36.31 | Grum | (priest/paladin) |
| 14:36.44 | kadrahil | we were doing double priest + paladin healer on that |
| 14:36.46 | kadrahil | i would love a druid |
| 14:36.50 | Grum | 3 healers? |
| 14:36.53 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 14:36.58 | Stanzilla_ | we had 3, too |
| 14:37.03 | Stanzilla_ | pala/priest/druid |
| 14:37.11 | Grum | 2 found that 3 healers left of with too long phases |
| 14:37.20 | kadrahil | hm |
| 14:37.23 | Stanzilla_ | dps moar :D |
| 14:37.30 | Grum | meaning 25% more of the room was covered in fires when you enter p4 |
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| 14:37.48 | kadrahil | because of the extra ranged? |
| 14:37.58 | Grum | no, because of the shorter time it takes with +1 dps |
| 14:38.02 | kadrahil | oh |
| 14:38.06 | Grum | you get +20% dps thus 20% less fires |
| 14:38.11 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 14:38.14 | kadrahil | interesting |
| 14:38.19 | Grum | and if you push hard on the first one you get one less explosion |
| 14:38.25 | kadrahil | would you suggest pally+druid then? or priest for raid heals |
| 14:38.25 | Grum | so ~25% less in total |
| 14:38.31 | Grum | dunno tbh |
| 14:38.43 | Grum | but it is hard to get past phase2 reliably with 2 healers |
| 14:38.51 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 14:39.02 | kadrahil | i'm wondering if we should be saving lust for P2 |
| 14:39.03 | Grum | we usually get p1 in ~1m15 orso |
| 14:39.05 | Grum | yeah |
| 14:39.10 | Grum | we use heroism/lust for p2 |
| 14:39.14 | kadrahil | ah |
| 14:39.15 | steev | we can usually push up through mimiron our first night in 10 ulduar, but getting past that is pretty fail |
| 14:39.15 | Grum | its just not needed in any other phase |
| 14:39.24 | Stanzilla_ | we use it for p4 :O |
| 14:39.37 | Grum | steev: to get to mimiron you only have to kill4 bosses |
| 14:39.47 | Grum | Stanzilla_: you killed firefighter? |
| 14:39.53 | Stanzilla_ | Grum: not yet |
| 14:39.55 | kadrahil | :O |
| 14:39.57 | kadrahil | heh |
| 14:40.03 | Grum | once you get in p4 it should be fucking easy |
| 14:40.08 | Stanzilla_ | no :P |
| 14:40.11 | Grum | we just did it once with 4 people alive ;( |
| 14:40.14 | kadrahil | do the fires go away in P4? |
| 14:40.17 | Stanzilla_ | damn barrage + fires + shit |
| 14:40.18 | kadrahil | :[ |
| 14:40.19 | Stanzilla_ | => no fun |
| 14:40.27 | Grum | there is only extra fires? |
| 14:40.32 | Grum | pffft |
| 14:40.36 | Grum | fires do nothing |
| 14:40.53 | Stanzilla_ | well we hit enrage at 255 |
| 14:40.55 | Stanzilla_ | 25% |
| 14:41.11 | Grum | 3 healers? |
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| 14:41.15 | Stanzilla_ | yeah |
| 14:41.38 | Grum | ah well we're going to headbutt firefighter for ~10 hours |
| 14:42.31 | Stanzilla_ | i think in that try someone died in p3 |
| 14:42.36 | Stanzilla_ | that's why we were missing dps |
| 14:42.47 | kadrahil | Grum: we've put in probably 10 hours on it already, and another 5 tonight |
| 14:43.03 | Grum | mm i think i've got ~30 tries done in it sofar |
| 14:43.11 | kadrahil | :o |
| 14:43.13 | Grum | ~6-7 hours orso |
| 14:43.19 | kadrahil | yeah it gets old after a while |
| 14:43.27 | Grum | (yes we had a lot of tactics-talk :P) |
| 14:43.32 | kadrahil | hehe |
| 14:43.57 | steev | what's firefighter? |
| 14:44.03 | kadrahil | mimiron hard mode |
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| 14:44.07 | steev | ahh |
| 14:44.13 | Grum | and its completely insane :P |
| 14:44.17 | kadrahil | yes |
| 14:44.21 | kadrahil | archimonde on crack |
| 14:44.22 | Grum | think of mimiron combined with archimonde |
| 14:44.26 | kadrahil | ^ |
| 14:44.33 | Grum | 75% of the room covered in flames that tick for 6k per second :P |
| 14:44.33 | steev | considering the issues we have with mimiron normal |
| 14:44.36 | steev | its gonna be a while |
| 14:44.46 | Grum | oh and follow you about ;) |
| 14:44.48 | kadrahil | Grum: i love flames though :( |
| 14:44.51 | Grum | same :D |
| 14:44.55 | Grum | ah well ;) |
| 14:44.56 | kadrahil | Grum: i just pop ams and enjoy full runic power bars |
| 14:45.43 | kadrahil | :D |
| 14:45.43 | kadrahil | as the healers yell at me |
| 14:45.44 | kadrahil | one tick => full RP => frost strike to glory |
| 14:50.49 | kadrahil | Grum: so after P1 you split into 2 groups on opposite sides of the room? |
| 14:51.18 | kadrahil | Grum: or is it on a separate "corner" of the room as if you split into thirds |
| 14:51.28 | kadrahil | split the room into thirds, that is |
| 14:51.49 | Grum | euuh we start north @ button |
| 14:51.52 | Grum | all on a single stack |
| 14:51.56 | kadrahil | right |
| 14:52.00 | kadrahil | at the beginning of p1 |
| 14:52.11 | Grum | i kite initial fires to the right (east) and the rest walks west |
| 14:52.24 | Grum | after the purge of all the fires at 1 minute |
| 14:52.35 | Grum | we group up again and move the tank to the button |
| 14:52.45 | Grum | (so no fires spawn in the middle from that moment on) |
| 14:53.02 | kadrahil | oooooh |
| 14:53.08 | Grum | we kill the nap and we are all still 'NE' in the room |
| 14:53.22 | Grum | we hug the edges of the fires and wait for the new spawns |
| 14:53.35 | Grum | you should get 2 while waiting for p2 to start (30 seconds ><) |
| 14:53.40 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 14:53.49 | Grum | and we make sure all 6 hears are close to the left-over fire from p1 |
| 14:54.03 | Grum | then we have a group of 4 go NW and the rest S-SE |
| 14:54.10 | Grum | and heroism +pewpew |
| 14:54.12 | kadrahil | hears? |
| 14:54.15 | kadrahil | er |
| 14:54.45 | kadrahil | interesting, i'm gonna post on my guild forums about this :P |
| 14:54.55 | Grum | we usually have 2-3 melee/tank persons, 2 healers, 5-6 casters |
| 14:55.02 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 14:55.06 | kadrahil | oh you run caster heavy |
| 14:55.20 | Grum | just the regular balance we get |
| 14:55.30 | kadrahil | we're pretty melee heavy |
| 14:55.38 | kadrahil | tank, rogue, feral, me, sometimes a dps warrior |
| 14:56.03 | kadrahil | our only ranged are a mage, elemental, sometimes a lock, the healers |
| 14:56.05 | Grum | tonight we start with: dk tank, druid tank, disc/holy priest, holy paladin |
| 14:56.21 | Grum | and .. mage/spriest/lock/elemshammy/hunter and a ... |
| 14:56.28 | steev | we're gonna be doing 10 man tonight with 2 shaman healers |
| 14:56.31 | Grum | oh melee DK :) |
| 14:56.35 | steev | a warrior and dk tank |
| 14:57.41 | Grum | otherwise it would have been a kitteh druid and warr tank :) |
| 15:02.37 | Repo | 10epgploot2: 03felsir * r34 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 15:02.40 | Repo | Fixed bug where the announce message didn't work for shards. |
| 15:06.10 | kadrahil | Grum: how do you handle bomb bots in P3? |
| 15:06.28 | Grum | druid will go taunt them |
| 15:06.37 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 15:07.00 | kadrahil | i taunt them in ours, just wondering if you do anything differently there |
| 15:07.04 | kadrahil | other than stacking up |
| 15:07.14 | kadrahil | watching paragon's hardmode video right now for P3 |
| 15:08.14 | kadrahil | their positioning is perfect |
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| 15:20.45 | Grum | kadrahil: url? |
| 15:22.23 | kadrahil | sec |
| 15:22.29 | Repo | 10epgploot2: 03felsir 04v2.0.9release * r35 : |
| 15:22.30 | kadrahil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D97WOTvP-k |
| 15:22.32 | Repo | Fixed bug where the announce message didn't work for items where everyone passed. |
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| 15:28.09 | Grum | kadrahil: OE! |
| 15:28.11 | Grum | nice tactic |
| 15:28.22 | Grum | standing 3 rows deep and all together |
| 15:29.25 | Grum | in p2 |
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| 15:31.44 | kadrahil | Grum: yeah |
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| 15:31.54 | Grum | how many healers do they have? |
| 15:32.01 | kadrahil | i can't really tell |
| 15:32.38 | kadrahil | i see a holy pally |
| 15:33.02 | kadrahil | OH at teh end of P1 |
| 15:33.03 | kadrahil | the* |
| 15:33.11 | kadrahil | they are keeping all the fires in that third of the room |
| 15:33.53 | kadrahil | so they always have at least 1 third of the room free of fires at all times |
| 15:34.57 | Grum | appears to be 3 healers |
| 15:35.03 | Grum | priest+2xpaly |
| 15:35.06 | kadrahil | oh |
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| 16:27.05 | aestil | seems like this patch is cominig out too quickly. |
| 16:27.27 | aestil | even if its on PTR for 1.5 months, seems like a bit to quick after 3.1. |
| 16:27.35 | aestil | or maybe thats just me. |
| 16:28.45 | Torhal|Sleep | aestil: Considering the typical time between expansions is two years... |
| 16:29.04 | aestil | ? |
| 16:29.09 | aestil | considering that... what? |
| 16:29.32 | Torhal | It's been seven months since launch. Why would 3,2 be too soon? |
| 16:29.47 | aestil | i'm comparing it to its proximity to 3.1 |
| 16:29.50 | aestil | which seems to soon. |
| 16:30.01 | Torhal | It's just a number. |
| 16:30.08 | aestil | i'm talking about the content. |
| 16:30.14 | Torhal | Ah |
| 16:30.29 | aestil | as far as I know 3.2 will make the 3.1 meta achievments nil. |
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| 16:31.01 | aestil | i don't really care about getting them i guess... |
| 16:31.10 | aestil | we got the first one. |
| 16:31.29 | aestil | but if 3.2 goes live in 2 months, i'd be surprised if we had killed algalon already. |
| 16:31.49 | NeoTron | of course |
| 16:32.01 | NeoTron | with 5 new bosses you probably will have plenty of time to keep trying |
| 16:32.48 | aestil | well, we cleared all of BT before sunwell |
| 16:32.58 | kadrahil | rawr |
| 16:33.00 | aestil | and killed Kael and Vashj before their nerf's |
| 16:33.02 | kadrahil | jquery :( |
| 16:33.19 | aestil | so, i guess, i just feel like this will be faster than we can go before the new content comes out. |
| 16:33.25 | kadrahil | i hope it's longer than 2 months, honestly |
| 16:33.28 | aestil | *shrugs* |
| 16:33.35 | NeoTron | but |
| 16:33.42 | kadrahil | we're 3 hardmodes away from algalon |
| 16:33.45 | kadrahil | 25man |
| 16:33.45 | NeoTron | Algalon is like bonus content. not "meant" to be killed by everyone |
| 16:34.06 | aestil | I guess this week will tell us a lot. this week and next week. |
| 16:34.08 | kadrahil | any jquery coders in here? |
| 16:34.22 | kadrahil | pokes ckknight |
| 16:34.41 | aestil | if we can get Freyax2 this week, then Freya x3 next week will be possible, meaning we can start mimiron hard mode in 3 weeks. we can devote about 6 hours a week to learning new content. |
| 16:34.41 | ckknight | waves |
| 16:34.54 | ckknight | $(kadrahil).slideUp(); |
| 16:34.58 | kadrahil | :D |
| 16:35.12 | kadrahil | ckknight: got a little question |
| 16:35.17 | aestil | mimiron sounds really hard. assuming it takes us 18 hours to learn, we are at about 1.5 months from now before we even attempt algalon. |
| 16:35.38 | kadrahil | actually i'm headed out to lunch |
| 16:35.40 | kadrahil | >.< |
| 16:35.41 | kadrahil | afk |
| 16:35.42 | aestil | so if the patch comes in 2 months, best case scenario, would be 2hours to work on algalon :) |
| 16:35.44 | aestil | thats sad |
| 16:36.07 | aestil | I'd rather have the patch come like early october :) |
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| 16:40.13 | ckknight | IE8 has slightly better support on wowace now |
| 16:40.52 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r151 / (3 files in 1 directory): enhance quests tooltip, quest & achievement tracker |
| 16:40.55 | Repo | fix a few bugs |
| 16:40.58 | Repo | update localization |
| 16:46.25 | Fisker | so you're finally coding after the web standards |
| 16:46.26 | Fisker | hoho |
| 16:46.58 | steev | who needs web standards, we have ie! |
| 16:47.10 | Fisker | you mean we have Chrome and Firefox |
| 16:47.11 | ckknight | IE sucks balls |
| 16:47.19 | ckknight | Fisker: run wowace through w3c's validator. |
| 16:47.34 | Fisker | http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/get-the-facts/browser-comparison.aspx |
| 16:47.38 | Fisker | get the facts ckknight |
| 16:47.54 | ckknight | IE supports web standards? |
| 16:47.54 | ckknight | :P |
| 16:48.01 | Fisker | indeed |
| 16:48.36 | steev | mmm |
| 16:48.37 | nicoli_s | i mean IE has more checks and ms wouldnt lie to us so it must be better |
| 16:48.43 | steev | those facts are incorrect. |
| 16:49.02 | steev | chrome most certainly has phishing/malware detection |
| 16:49.22 | steev | incognito mode in it is also identical to IE8's "Privacy" |
| 16:49.23 | Fisker | better phishing and malware protection, |
| 16:49.30 | steev | better than what? nothing? |
| 16:49.34 | steev | its fucking microsoft |
| 16:49.40 | Fisker | chrome and firefox durr |
| 16:49.46 | steev | riight |
| 16:50.19 | ckknight | but what of safari and opera? |
| 16:50.27 | steev | 7 new viruses in the past 24 hours |
| 16:50.44 | Fisker | they don't deserve to be mentioned ckknight |
| 16:50.49 | ckknight | lol |
| 16:51.00 | steev | Fisker: on that i'd agree |
| 16:51.16 | Cahan | nothing wrong with Opera >_> |
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| 16:54.21 | steev | nothing right with it either |
| 16:54.24 | steev | ZING |
| 16:54.50 | Cahan | better than Failfox at least ;p |
| 16:55.50 | Fisker | what isn't? |
| 16:55.56 | Fisker | Even IE is better than failfox |
| 16:56.23 | Cahan | links isn't ;p |
| 16:56.26 | steev | ur mom isn't |
| 16:56.44 | steev | links > * |
| 16:56.50 | steev | glinks > links |
| 16:57.11 | steev | so |
| 16:57.16 | steev | when using the b.net account |
| 16:57.29 | steev | logging in is slower, i realize its using different auth servers, any way to speed it up? |
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| 17:08.08 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r50 / (5 files in 1 directory): Finally added the new way of toggling fails |
| 17:08.11 | Repo | !wipe fix for UNIT_AURA |
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| 17:24.10 | Repo | 10professionbars: 03Belazor * r24 ProfessionBars.lua: Fix parenting the LW bar to Tradeskill frame. |
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| 17:43.32 | stolenlegacy | Wobin, Belazor: any of you took a screen of the milling bar since i last asked? |
| 17:43.44 | Belazor | no but I fixed your LW bar |
| 17:44.33 | stolenlegacy | what was the problem? |
| 17:44.44 | stolenlegacy | @project professionbars |
| 17:44.45 | Repo | stolenlegacy: http://www.wowace.com/projects/professionbars/. ProfessionBars. Game: WoW. stolenlegacy (Manager/Author), Belazor (Author), brollygerman (Tester), wobin (Tester). Updated: 19 minutes ago |
| 17:44.50 | stolenlegacy | no tickets |
| 17:44.59 | stolenlegacy | what did you change? |
| 17:45.12 | Belazor | lw_bar:SetPoint("TOP", "TradeSkillFrame", "BOTTOMLEFT", 180, 75); |
| 17:45.20 | Belazor | not supposed to use "" around TradeSkillFrame |
| 17:45.26 | stolenlegacy | oh, okay |
| 17:45.27 | Belazor | because its a global, not a name |
| 17:45.35 | stolenlegacy | didn't notice any errors because of that |
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| 17:48.02 | stolenlegacy | probably because i use ATSW |
| 17:49.19 | stolenlegacy | ckknight: ping |
| 17:50.04 | stolenlegacy | Kaelten: ping |
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| 17:58.02 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r51 EnsidiaFails.lua: option menu - sartharion text fix |
| 17:58.45 | NeoTron | ping |
| 17:58.55 | cauchy | pong |
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| 18:02.04 | kadrahil | ckknight: ping again, back from lunch |
| 18:02.23 | kadrahil | ckknight: i'm attempting to pass a list of input checkboxes as an array through a jquery post method |
| 18:02.33 | kadrahil | ckknight: the jquery object is $("#lessonList li input:checked") |
| 18:03.00 | kadrahil | i can use serializeArray() on that, but when i get back to the PHP side of things it does not have the whole thing :( |
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| 18:04.03 | kadrahil | ckknight: var dumping the serialized array on the php side gives me string(15) "[object Object]" |
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| 18:05.20 | kadrahil | ckknight: well nevermind, i guess i'll just use serialize() instead of serializeArray() |
| 18:09.30 | Stanzilla_ | Caleb|: is there a hardened bark (freya) fail in ensidiafails? |
| 18:10.03 | netcurse | kadrahil, he's eating :) |
| 18:13.58 | Caleb| | nope not atm, how should that be a fail? |
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| 18:14.35 | Stanzilla_ | Caleb|: if you continue to dps if it reaches 30 stacks or so |
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| 18:14.51 | Stanzilla_ | *it if it |
| 18:15.00 | Caleb| | yeah but ranged are kiting it anyways, and you need to kill it |
| 18:15.20 | Stanzilla_ | we are tanking it^^ |
| 18:15.27 | Caleb| | it will have more than 30 stacks at some point fo sho |
| 18:15.38 | Caleb| | how are you killing it then in time? |
| 18:15.56 | Stanzilla_ | dps - wait -dps |
| 18:16.02 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: BigWigs is enabling the Watcher modules in Ulduar at Yogg (again) o_O |
| 18:16.16 | Stanzilla_ | but I guess we can't do that anymore with 3 Adds.. |
| 18:16.30 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: wtf okay |
| 18:17.09 | Gnarfoz | and I don't even get the activate messages anymore (the ones in the middle of the screen) |
| 18:17.24 | Gnarfoz | weird oO |
| 18:17.27 | vhaarr | I removed them completely, they're useless |
| 18:17.35 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: target one and do /print UnitIsEnemy("target") |
| 18:17.39 | vhaarr | and err |
| 18:17.44 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: target one and do /print UnitIsEnemy("player", "target") |
| 18:17.48 | vhaarr | and |
| 18:17.54 | vhaarr | UnitCanAttack("player", "target") |
| 18:17.59 | vhaarr | and tell me what it says |
| 18:18.28 | Gnarfoz | ok, I will later, just went into our cleared-to-yogg 25man ID and checked while I was alone, because I couldn't figure out who had such an outdated version (this was fixed in r5220 last time) |
| 18:18.34 | Gnarfoz | turns out it was me :P |
| 18:18.47 | Gnarfoz | not outdated, that is, but current |
| 18:19.10 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I'll go there again after Ulduar10 ;) |
| 18:19.23 | vhaarr | "just went into our", so if you're there, then why not now? |
| 18:26.22 | vhaarr | wtf |
| 18:27.05 | vhaarr | aha |
| 18:27.06 | kadrahil | netcurse: so was i! :O |
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| 18:33.54 | steev | anyone here use magicrunes |
| 18:34.09 | steev | and the iconbar or whatever its called |
| 18:34.17 | steev | tryin to figure out how to make the background transparent |
| 18:34.37 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5722 / (3 files in 2 directories): Make Core honor :VerifyEnable again on modules. |
| 18:34.39 | vhaarr | ffs |
| 18:34.53 | Kaelten | stolenlegacy: pong |
| 18:35.22 | stolenlegacy | Kaelten: when editing a file, the current changelog is not the default value. The changelog field is empty by default. |
| 18:35.37 | stolenlegacy | intended/bug? |
| 18:35.38 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 18:35.42 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: fixed |
| 18:35.48 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5723 Ulduar (2 files in 1 directory): Revert accidentally committed changes. |
| 18:36.14 | Kaelten | stolenlegacy: link to example |
| 18:36.36 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: I went in, checked if maybe I myself am the culprit, confired that I am, went out and went into Ulduar10 :) |
| 18:36.48 | vhaarr | ah |
| 18:36.50 | vhaarr | well fixed now |
| 18:36.53 | stolenlegacy | Kaelten: http://www.wowace.com/projects/professionbars/files/33-r24-nolib/ |
| 18:37.04 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: although others will keep enabling them until they have this revision |
| 18:37.04 | stolenlegacy | pressed File management -> Edit File |
| 18:37.11 | stolenlegacy | and the Change Log field is empty |
| 18:37.13 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: ok |
| 18:37.49 | Kaelten | stolenlegacy: it's a bug |
| 18:37.55 | Kaelten | give us a few mins |
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| 19:27.24 | stolenlegacy | thorim 10man hardmode - tank getting oneshot by a crit |
| 19:27.38 | stolenlegacy | or twoshot |
| 19:28.03 | durcyn | if your tank is getting crit, you have bigger problems |
| 19:28.58 | sacarasc | True that. |
| 19:30.01 | NeoTron | crit indeed |
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| 19:39.23 | stolenlegacy | no, no |
| 19:39.30 | stolenlegacy | unbalancing strike'd, ofc |
| 19:39.47 | stolenlegacy | oh well, we just downed him third-try anyway |
| 19:40.09 | stolenlegacy | next up: Knock, knock, knock on wood |
| 19:40.54 | durcyn | unbalancing strike is what tank swaps are for |
| 19:41.15 | NeoTron | taunt faster |
| 19:41.27 | NeoTron | and use cooldowns of course |
| 19:43.40 | stolenlegacy | we didn't taunt at all |
| 19:43.49 | stolenlegacy | we like our bears |
| 19:44.17 | NeoTron | if your bears got crit, they obviously didn't stack sufficient resilienc |
| 19:44.37 | stolenlegacy | is it intended that /cast [target=mouseover]Wild Growth doesn't seem to worth? |
| 19:46.17 | stolenlegacy | s/worth/work/ |
| 19:46.18 | QuantumDelta | wouldn't you just use /cast [mouseover]Wild Growth |
| 19:47.26 | Caleb| | can you guys tell me a good addon that uses the new blizzard equipment manager? |
| 19:47.32 | Repo | 10lib-textbook: 03TAP3AH * r8 LibTextbook.lua: huge data fix |
| 19:47.32 | durcyn | ClosetGnome |
| 19:47.50 | QuantumDelta | why use an addon to use it? Oo |
| 19:47.58 | Caleb| | for fubar |
| 19:48.20 | Repo | 10auctionator-recipelist: 03TAP3AH * r10 libs/LibTextbook.lua: LibTextbook updated to r8 |
| 19:48.26 | QuantumDelta | may as well just use the addon proper? :P |
| 19:48.30 | stolenlegacy | QuantumDelta: it IS a macro :P |
| 19:48.32 | Caleb| | and think you can't keybind the default shizzle? |
| 19:48.41 | stolenlegacy | but /cast [mouseover] doesn't work |
| 19:48.51 | stolenlegacy | and [target=mouseover] works for every spell |
| 19:48.51 | QuantumDelta | Hmmmmm... |
| 19:48.57 | stolenlegacy | except WG |
| 19:49.02 | durcyn | ClosetGnome's quips > * |
| 19:49.09 | stolenlegacy | durcyn: just use itemrac |
| 19:49.14 | stolenlegacy | s/itemrac/itemrack/ |
| 19:49.14 | durcyn | stolenlegacy: no |
| 19:49.30 | durcyn | stolenlegacy: i'm quite happy with CG, thank you. |
| 19:49.33 | stolenlegacy | okay |
| 19:49.38 | durcyn | and i wasn't even asking |
| 19:49.49 | QuantumDelta | *sticks with his itemrack :<* |
| 19:50.16 | stolenlegacy | durcyn: whoops :P |
| 19:50.24 | QuantumDelta | now to get back to trying to make 2 macros work from 1 button >.> |
| 19:50.24 | stolenlegacy | Caleb|: ItemRack |
| 19:50.28 | durcyn | p.s. ClosetGnome + EquipmentManager_SwapSpecs + EquipSetUpdater |
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| 19:51.25 | Caleb| | yeah I use ItemRack atm, but its not really working with the JC gems |
| 19:51.31 | Caleb| | I might have old version or some shit tho |
| 19:56.45 | Groktar | really Caleb|? |
| 19:56.49 | Groktar | works fine for me |
| 19:56.55 | stolenlegacy | signed groktar |
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| 20:00.09 | Caleb| | durcyn is there any FuBar plugin for ClosetGnome? |
| 20:00.23 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 20:00.25 | durcyn | Caleb|: it has an LDB feed. why the hell are you still using fubar? |
| 20:00.25 | NeoTron | ClosetGnome |
| 20:00.30 | NeoTron | err |
| 20:00.32 | NeoTron | fubar |
| 20:00.36 | NeoTron | what's that? :) |
| 20:00.44 | Caleb| | I don't know |
| 20:00.47 | Caleb| | gonna check LDB |
| 20:01.00 | nicoli_s | man new cc is awesome, uses less than a meg of ram in idle |
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| 20:06.46 | Stanzilla_ | but it's ugly :D |
| 20:06.56 | nicoli_s | have you actually seen it yet? |
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| 20:07.03 | Stanzilla_ | *nods* |
| 20:07.19 | kadrahil | need any help porting it to linux or os x? o.O |
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| 20:07.32 | kadrahil | oh wait, i don't have the time D: |
| 20:07.32 | nicoli_s | kadrahil, its .net, not portable |
| 20:07.37 | kadrahil | nicoli_s: darn |
| 20:07.47 | nicoli_s | and stanzilla, i think its purty purty |
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| 20:13.02 | ckknight | nicoli_s: Stanzilla_ has odd tastes |
| 20:13.15 | ckknight | kadrahil: the OS X version is written in Cocoa |
| 20:13.20 | ckknight | separate codebase |
| 20:13.23 | nicoli_s | i suppose you think minion is prettier stanzilla? |
| 20:13.35 | kadrahil | ckknight: yeah |
| 20:13.55 | kadrahil | ckknight: who coded the OS X version? |
| 20:14.03 | ckknight | Kaelten's working on that |
| 20:14.08 | kadrahil | oh cool |
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| 20:17.26 | Stanzilla_ | nicoli_s: nah, minion's layout is weird. i actually like the cc 3 design on windows. CC4 looks like iTunes or some other mac app |
| 20:17.45 | nicoli_s | yah well that was the point so thats good :P |
| 20:18.16 | NeoTron | hmm itunes... |
| 20:18.30 | nevcairiel | Didnt someone say they were designing a real windows app in .net? |
| 20:18.35 | NeoTron | so do we have a cover art addon browser with a fancy pseudo 3d flipping effect then? :P |
| 20:18.36 | nevcairiel | why the hell does it look like a mac app? |
| 20:18.58 | nicoli_s | neotron, there isnt one, though our framework does support it :P |
| 20:19.15 | Stanzilla_ | nevcairiel: yeah, that's my problem, too |
| 20:19.22 | Stanzilla_ | it looks no way like a windows app |
| 20:20.01 | stolenlegacy | i think they should add text to CC4's buttons |
| 20:20.01 | ckknight | a native theme will be made |
| 20:20.03 | stolenlegacy | at least in windows |
| 20:20.08 | Stanzilla_ | NeoTron: nah, but itunes icons and a ugly addon list with blurred fonts and icons .< |
| 20:20.17 | nicoli_s | stolenlegacy, that options is there |
| 20:20.28 | ckknight | blurred fonts? |
| 20:20.32 | ckknight | the fonts are all handled natively, afaik |
| 20:20.59 | NeoTron | blurred fonts .... as in anti-aliasing? :P |
| 20:21.16 | Kaelten | well it's a mix between itunes and windows media player actually |
| 20:21.19 | stolenlegacy | nicoli_s: where? |
| 20:21.21 | stolenlegacy | i can't find it |
| 20:21.33 | stolenlegacy | oh okay, there |
| 20:21.34 | stolenlegacy | got it |
| 20:21.55 | ckknight | btw, next version should have bug reporting from inside the client, so you can file your qualms there |
| 20:22.15 | Kaelten | It does have some ui elements of itunes, but the default color scheme is modeled after windows media player |
| 20:22.18 | ckknight | granted, it's just a wrapper around the curseforge project :P |
| 20:22.18 | nicoli_s | do you have a copy stolenlegacy? |
| 20:22.25 | stolenlegacy | yeh |
| 20:22.29 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 20:24.36 | Stanzilla_ | ckknight: http://i40.tinypic.com/seb041.png |
| 20:24.40 | Stanzilla_ | that's blurred for me |
| 20:24.47 | Kaelten | Stanzilla: one thing we were busting our ass to remove from the client was nested tabs |
| 20:25.02 | Kaelten | Stanzilla: the screenshot doesn't look blured to me |
| 20:25.10 | Stanzilla_ | maybe I'm blind :( |
| 20:25.16 | stolenlegacy | Stanzilla: no screens of cc4 in irc, right? |
| 20:25.34 | Kaelten | stolenlegacy: no |
| 20:25.39 | ckknight | we're still hush-hush |
| 20:25.40 | Stanzilla_ | stolenlegacy: thats like text on white background, not really a spoiler :P |
| 20:25.46 | stolenlegacy | kay |
| 20:25.57 | Kaelten | yeah stan found the line and pranced on it |
| 20:26.17 | ckknight | we don't want any news articles for it before we're ready or anything like that |
| 20:26.28 | Kaelten | yeah it is an alpha quality product at this point |
| 20:26.39 | Kaelten | we're not wanting it to hit the public until it's finalized |
| 20:26.46 | ckknight | i.e. we want our leaks to be intentional, not haphazard |
| 20:26.47 | ckknight | <.< |
| 20:26.48 | ckknight | >.> |
| 20:26.48 | Kaelten | or well until beta is finalized |
| 20:27.00 | Kaelten | exactly, like any good publisher |
| 20:30.05 | stolenlegacy | so stan: screens are a no-n |
| 20:30.11 | stolenlegacy | s/no-n/no-no/ |
| 20:30.15 | Stanzilla_ | I know that >.< |
| 20:30.36 | stolenlegacy | even stuff like that ;) |
| 20:30.42 | stolenlegacy | refrain to PM please |
| 20:30.54 | nicoli_s | well, if minion is supposed to be beta, i'd say cc4 is beta quality too :P |
| 20:30.57 | Jim-Bim | is the start with windows option fixed? :P |
| 20:31.17 | Jim-Bim | it did start everytime, enabled or not |
| 20:40.38 | stolenlegacy | knock, knock, knock...done |
| 20:41.12 | durcyn | stolenlegacy: now do Firefighter |
| 20:41.18 | stolenlegacy | durcyn: nope |
| 20:41.23 | stolenlegacy | we want to do one light |
| 20:41.32 | stolenlegacy | and vezax hard |
| 20:41.35 | durcyn | on 10? it's easy as piss |
| 20:41.40 | kadrahil | heh |
| 20:41.48 | kadrahil | we've spent probably 10 hours on firefighter so far |
| 20:41.51 | kadrahil | going in again tonight |
| 20:41.58 | kadrahil | it's all we need to unlock algalon |
| 20:42.06 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta5 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 20:42.09 | Repo | fffa467: Added guild display to info panel. |
| 20:42.12 | Repo | 2a3175c: Shirts and Tabards no longer count toward average item level. |
| 20:42.15 | Repo | 4f3690f: Added LibDBIcon-1.0 support. |
| 20:42.18 | kadrahil | general hard and 1 light are just for the meta |
| 20:42.20 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 04beta5 * b6f861e /: [new tag] Tagging as beta5. |
| 20:42.23 | kadrahil | drake |
| 20:42.33 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i have a problem with the new site |
| 20:42.35 | durcyn | i'm not joking, i took a new group to yogg 10 for 1 light last week, did it in 3 pulls, and both of the learning wipes were p1 |
| 20:42.37 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: the comments on the new site cause my cpu usage to goto 100% while scrolling a page |
| 20:42.44 | kadrahil | durcyn: rofl wow |
| 20:42.48 | ckknight | what browser and OS do you use? |
| 20:42.50 | durcyn | i've had bowel movements harder than yogg 10 |
| 20:42.56 | kadrahil | durcyn: LOL |
| 20:43.16 | kadrahil | durcyn: my new forum sig right there |
| 20:43.16 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: asking me? |
| 20:43.22 | ckknight | yes, Arrowmaster |
| 20:43.36 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: firefox 3 on windows xp |
| 20:43.43 | ckknight | k |
| 20:43.55 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: on an athlon xp 3000+, which is why i can tell the cpu usage a lot more than others can |
| 20:44.05 | ckknight | for now, I'd recommend using a different theme, such as stan's theme |
| 20:44.17 | ckknight | I have some ideas on how to fix it |
| 20:44.22 | kadrahil | <ckknight> for now, I'd recommend getting a real CPU |
| 20:44.23 | kadrahil | ^ fixed |
| 20:44.31 | Torhal | ckknight: My changelog does not exist. I am distraught. |
| 20:44.36 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 20:44.39 | ckknight | it does if you believe! |
| 20:44.47 | kadrahil | sprinkle some pixie dust on it |
| 20:44.51 | kadrahil | and think happy thoughts |
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| 20:45.11 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: the comment sections seem to be redrawing later than everything else when it scrolls, i have a short 12 second clip from my digital camera (i was too lazy to install something like fraps) |
| 20:45.38 | stolenlegacy | we should only need it |
| 20:45.46 | stolenlegacy | but our disk carrier forgot to turn in the quest |
| 20:45.53 | stolenlegacy | so we need to re-do all the hardmodes next week anyway |
| 20:45.54 | mark0223 | hey |
| 20:46.03 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I believe it's due to firefox's handling of rounded corners on XP |
| 20:46.10 | kadrahil | stolenlegacy: d'oh |
| 20:46.15 | ckknight | my plan is to make the amount of rounded corners far fewer |
| 20:46.27 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: firefox fail |
| 20:46.27 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: the rounded corners in other parts of the page dont behave the same way |
| 20:46.32 | kadrahil | ckknight: why did i read that as "rounded errors" |
| 20:46.32 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 20:46.34 | stolenlegacy | still needs his staff from hodir |
| 20:46.45 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: I have the same issue @ mmo champion and other sites.. well assume it's the same |
| 20:46.50 | ckknight | it's because comments have rounded corners, avatars have rounded corners, and each action button in the top-right has rounded corners |
| 20:46.57 | ckknight | I'm likely to change the way the action buttons are handled |
| 20:46.58 | NeoTron | something with background images.. |
| 20:47.02 | ckknight | and possibly the avatars |
| 20:47.17 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: do me a favor |
| 20:47.26 | Arrowmaster | i noticed the avatars and account names are color coded everywhere |
| 20:47.26 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: log out, see if it's better or the same |
| 20:47.38 | ckknight | upon logging out, you'll only have 1 action button per comment rather than 6 or so |
| 20:48.04 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r153 questsTracker.lua: fix tracker with no quest still being shown |
| 20:48.05 | ckknight | if it's better, then my suspicions are right and I'll have a course of action |
| 20:48.10 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: yeah its better |
| 20:48.14 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:48.23 | ckknight | I'm likely going to merge the action buttons into one big bar with separations |
| 20:48.42 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: to alleviate your issues for now, use stan's theme or something, he removed all rounded corners |
| 20:48.46 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/themes/ |
| 20:49.02 | Arrowmaster | i dont think its completely fixed after logging out but its 90% better id say |
| 20:49.07 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:49.17 | Arrowmaster | also wtf is with the broken login/logout redirection |
| 20:49.27 | ckknight | auth server bullshit |
| 20:49.27 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta5-1-ge2db113 Localization/dev_enUS.lua: [+1 commit] Updated developer English locale. |
| 20:49.28 | ckknight | mostly |
| 20:49.34 | Arrowmaster | it does not take me back to the page i was on |
| 20:49.45 | Arrowmaster | and the page i was on is even in the url of the login page |
| 20:50.17 | ckknight | yes, I know. |
| 20:50.18 | *** join/#wowace Baraius (n=bhuddles@70.114.233.79) |
| 20:50.23 | ckknight | I'm gonna try to fix that |
| 20:50.30 | kadrahil | ckknight: when you mouse over "select a portal" and get a the dropdown, is the "content-ad-header" div supposed to go blank? |
| 20:50.33 | ckknight | but I can't promise anything, really |
| 20:50.34 | kadrahil | ckknight: on curse.com frontpage |
| 20:50.46 | ckknight | kadrahil: no idea, I don't go to curse.com |
| 20:50.53 | kadrahil | ckknight: oh :X |
| 20:50.56 | ckknight | :P |
| 20:51.11 | kadrahil | i thought you worked on the site too for some reason |
| 20:51.12 | stolenlegacy | ^^ |
| 20:51.21 | stolenlegacy | i think ck uses curseforge, mostly |
| 20:52.02 | nicoli_s | kadrahil, file a ticket about the curse.com bug |
| 20:52.04 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: whats the difference between stans theme and hunterzs theme |
| 20:52.11 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 8cd1c0a Modules/LuaTexts/ScriptEnv.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 20:52.14 | Repo | 8cd1c0a: Add a SeparateDigits helper function to LuaTexts. |
| 20:52.17 | Repo | 0196359: Use wipe instead of clearing the table in lua. |
| 20:52.22 | ckknight | stan does a lot more |
| 20:52.29 | ckknight | go for hunterz's if you want |
| 20:52.30 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou 04r153 beta * r154 : Tagging as r153 beta |
| 20:52.51 | ckknight | hunterz also removes gradients |
| 20:52.53 | ckknight | looks like |
| 20:53.10 | Arrowmaster | ok, just wondering if stan copied the original and changed it or something or if those were all actual changes to the theme |
| 20:53.20 | kadrahil | nicoli_s: apparently the page never finished loading, i refreshed and it stopped |
| 20:53.33 | kadrahil | wait nevermind! |
| 20:53.50 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: yeah ff3 on xp seems to be bad about the corners, not sure why. :s |
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| 20:54.47 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if a netbook running xp would get the 100% cpu usage i was getting |
| 20:54.59 | Arrowmaster | or are most netbooks more powerful than my old ass computer |
| 20:55.39 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: it happens on my imac with a dual core 2.5ghz and 4gb of ram that's doing nothing else |
| 20:55.51 | Kaelten | but the mac version of ff3 doesn't have a problem with it |
| 20:55.59 | Kaelten | I did test 3.5 and it has the same issues |
| 20:56.44 | ckknight | I also have a suspicion that it might not occur if I change -moz-border-radius: 100% to 8px or something. |
| 20:56.47 | ckknight | need to test |
| 20:56.58 | Kaelten | ck I can test that |
| 21:01.13 | Arrowmaster | so the color coding of account names |
| 21:01.21 | Arrowmaster | green is for addon authors right |
| 21:01.37 | Arrowmaster | black is normal |
| 21:01.38 | ckknight | yes |
| 21:01.42 | ckknight | blue is mods |
| 21:01.45 | Arrowmaster | and this really dark blue is mods? |
| 21:01.50 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:01.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah the blue is extremely hard to tell apart from the black |
| 21:01.59 | ckknight | hmm |
| 21:02.10 | ckknight | do you suffer from any color blindness? (seriously) |
| 21:02.16 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:02.17 | ckknight | k |
| 21:02.29 | ckknight | got a link with a good example? |
| 21:02.40 | *** join/#wowace Kalroth (n=kalroth@2506ds1-hj.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 21:02.46 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/announcements/responses-to-the-new-layouts/#comments |
| 21:03.19 | Stanzilla_ | Vezax Hard (25) down \o/ wohoo |
| 21:03.31 | Fisker | damn |
| 21:03.38 | Gnarfoz | easy enough (cough) |
| 21:03.41 | Fisker | where's our sc2 beta and 3.2 ptr at? |
| 21:03.42 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt stand out at all compared to how the green stands out |
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| 21:04.19 | Arrowmaster | it should be a light blue instead of a dark blue imho |
| 21:04.23 | kadrahil | nicoli_s: post under the curse forums under bug reports? |
| 21:04.36 | stolenlegacy | Stanzilla_: gayz |
| 21:04.40 | stolenlegacy | we're going to do 10man now |
| 21:04.56 | kadrahil | Stanzilla_: grats, we'll finally be working on that again on sunday |
| 21:06.21 | Stanzilla_ | thanks :) |
| 21:06.30 | Stanzilla_ | Gnarfoz: it's not easy :D |
| 21:06.47 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: oh, but it is, hehe |
| 21:06.59 | stolenlegacy | well, i'm seeing the boss for the first time |
| 21:07.00 | Gnarfoz | easier than some others, at least :< |
| 21:07.06 | stolenlegacy | and already doing hardmode :P |
| 21:07.36 | steev | bleh, ptr won't download for me |
| 21:07.42 | steev | this download is not authorized |
| 21:07.59 | nicoli_s | kadrahil, theres a ticket tracker on curse, let me find it |
| 21:08.18 | nicoli_s | also, i cant figure out how the fuck to add tickets on curseforge |
| 21:08.27 | Stanzilla_ | Gnarfoz: no :( |
| 21:08.29 | kadrahil | nicoli_s: grr, i just posted that |
| 21:08.37 | kadrahil | nicoli_s: http://www.curse.com/forums/p/104238/502396.aspx#502396 |
| 21:08.41 | kadrahil | nicoli_s: you want me to delete it? |
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| 21:09.04 | Kaelten | damn firefox, why the suckage |
| 21:09.08 | ckknight | nicoli_s: add tickets? |
| 21:09.08 | nicoli_s | nah, but id still suggest making a ticket, as they check those more often the the forums |
| 21:09.14 | nicoli_s | http://www.curse.com/support/ to add a ticket kadrahil |
| 21:09.22 | kadrahil | oh, i must be blind! |
| 21:09.45 | nicoli_s | yeah ckknight, curseforge has a issue tracker right? where do i add a new issue? |
| 21:10.31 | Gnarfoz | @project curseforge |
| 21:10.33 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 430 days ago. Tickets: 180/1518 |
| 21:10.42 | Kaelten | in particular it's the border on the comments themselves |
| 21:10.43 | Gnarfoz | upper right? |
| 21:10.47 | Kaelten | we're discussing options |
| 21:10.59 | kadrahil | nicoli_s: ticket submitted, with a link to the forum post and screenshots :P |
| 21:11.22 | kadrahil | nicoli_s: like i said, it's not a major bug, or an annoyance at all, it's just something i noticed and thought i would point out |
| 21:11.43 | nicoli_s | cool, probably wont be fixed for a bit as our curse.com devs are busy with another project though |
| 21:12.02 | kadrahil | yeah that's cool |
| 21:12.49 | aestil | display drivers updates in windows 7 don't require a restart? |
| 21:12.59 | nicoli_s | thats awesome |
| 21:13.09 | kadrahil | :O |
| 21:14.07 | Cahan | aestil: nope |
| 21:15.00 | aestil | thats very nice. |
| 21:17.54 | Bruners | most drivers in vista doesnt require restart |
| 21:19.05 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i just copied stans theme and changed the moderator color, now it stands out |
| 21:20.17 | Arrowmaster | now if only i could disable the damn gradient on the text areas when they arent selected |
| 21:20.47 | Tristanian | that's the "highlighting" ? |
| 21:21.10 | stolenlegacy | anyone else thinks vezax trash is annoying as hell? |
| 21:21.18 | Arrowmaster | the stupid white to light blue gradient like the top of explorer bars |
| 21:21.24 | Tristanian | ah that |
| 21:21.26 | Tristanian | ye |
| 21:21.43 | Arrowmaster | looks horrible in text area and drop down menus |
| 21:21.43 | Tristanian | if you figure out how, make a theme so I can copy :P |
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| 21:26.24 | ckknight | !input_background = white |
| 21:27.10 | steev | are pally's the only class who can dispell the fusion punch? or does mass dispell work on it? |
| 21:27.24 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I just did a push that should fix slowness issues with rounded corners on comments |
| 21:27.32 | stolenlegacy | steev: any dispeller class |
| 21:27.37 | stolenlegacy | mages, priests, paladins, etc. |
| 21:27.56 | steev | shaman can't |
| 21:28.05 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: do you have to update the 'wowace' theme manually? |
| 21:28.11 | ckknight | no |
| 21:28.16 | ckknight | the wowace theme actually does nothing. |
| 21:28.23 | ckknight | since those are all the defaults anyway |
| 21:28.23 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 21:28.35 | ckknight | and what I did wasn't part of the theme |
| 21:28.38 | ckknight | it was deeper in the sass |
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| 21:28.53 | NeoTron | stolenlegacy: since when can makes dispell on a friendly target? |
| 21:29.08 | stolenlegacy | NeoTron: i think they always coul |
| 21:29.15 | stolenlegacy | s/coul/could/ |
| 21:29.15 | NeoTron | not to mention even if they could spell steal fusion punch... that'd be a bad thing to steal :P |
| 21:29.18 | NeoTron | they can decurse |
| 21:29.22 | stolenlegacy | oh, okay |
| 21:29.27 | NeoTron | and spell steal magic buffs from enemy targets |
| 21:29.30 | stolenlegacy | then remove mages from that list |
| 21:29.31 | stolenlegacy | :D |
| 21:30.04 | NeoTron | but yes you can't really do council (10 man or not) without a priest or paladin - at least for hard mode |
| 21:31.46 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: cant css do gradients? |
| 21:31.58 | ckknight | not supported by most browsers |
| 21:32.02 | ckknight | it's CSS3 |
| 21:32.04 | ckknight | which is still draft |
| 21:32.11 | ckknight | Safari 4 I believe can do it |
| 21:32.11 | steev | not tryin to do hardmode |
| 21:32.28 | ckknight | maybe chrome |
| 21:32.28 | ckknight | nothing else |
| 21:32.37 | steev | opera supports it |
| 21:32.43 | steev | at least, the unite version should |
| 21:32.56 | ckknight | opera 10 is still not technically released |
| 21:32.58 | ckknight | afaik |
| 21:33.12 | ckknight | they stuck the beta tag on it |
| 21:33.56 | ckknight | 10.00 Beta |
| 21:33.58 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:34.14 | steev | since when has "beta" stopped anyone |
| 21:34.18 | steev | chrome is still considered beta |
| 21:34.28 | End | is it? |
| 21:34.41 | End | I thought chrome was, but they have a beta and non-beta download link |
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| 21:35.42 | ckknight | http://www.opera.com/download/ |
| 21:35.42 | ckknight | not opera 10 |
| 21:35.43 | ckknight | that's the distinction. |
| 21:36.15 | steev | *shrug* the unite version is what i said, doesn't make it more or less valid |
| 21:36.40 | thul | kids, behave |
| 21:36.51 | steev | so who wants to go to The Hut with me later and hang out watching Wheel of Fortune!? |
| 21:37.29 | NivFreak | oh me! |
| 21:37.36 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: what constant effects the #explorerbar fonts? |
| 21:37.48 | ckknight | not changeable in sass |
| 21:37.54 | ckknight | well, in the themes |
| 21:38.02 | Arrowmaster | ok, what about the monospace fonts |
| 21:39.06 | ckknight | !monospace_font |
| 21:39.13 | ckknight | err !monospace_fonts |
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| 21:41.03 | Arrowmaster | ok what the fuck |
| 21:41.29 | Arrowmaster | 100% cpu usage while i have the edit css text area selected |
| 21:41.42 | stolenlegacy | we are now doing vezax hardmode with resto shaman and resto druid |
| 21:41.43 | stolenlegacy | ouch |
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| 21:42.53 | VonhintenHOME` | wtb Aion beta key |
| 21:43.30 | steev | wts Aion beta key |
| 21:43.32 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: wow killer? :) |
| 21:43.48 | thul | aion? |
| 21:43.53 | steev | wut |
| 21:43.59 | steev | how do you not know about Aion |
| 21:44.02 | steev | its like, zomg |
| 21:44.05 | thul | wtf is it? :-P |
| 21:44.58 | steev | http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/archive/2009/06/19/pizza-hut-cuts-the-quot-pizza-quot.aspx |
| 21:45.01 | steev | fail |
| 21:45.04 | steev | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Aion |
| 21:45.26 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: is there some javascript being run while i have a text area focused? |
| 21:45.51 | NeoTron | it's an asian MMORPG |
| 21:46.21 | aestil | aion = grindfest i think |
| 21:47.08 | NeoTron | that's what I've heard |
| 21:47.59 | aestil | also, graphics look like everyone is shiny plastic. |
| 21:48.36 | NeoTron | heard it has a cool personal vendor system though |
| 21:48.51 | NeoTron | wonder if it can manage to have some of that stuff that I miss greatly from SWG |
| 21:52.16 | aestil | blizzard needs to give more details about their next MMO. |
| 21:52.24 | aestil | you think blizzcon will have anything about it? |
| 21:52.34 | NeoTron | why? It's probably like 10 yrs |
| 21:52.37 | NeoTron | away |
| 21:52.43 | aestil | i hate you. |
| 21:52.46 | NeoTron | and no I seriously doubt they are ready |
| 21:53.13 | NeoTron | do you really want hype 3-5 years ahead of time? I mean I bet it'll AT LEAST be 3 more years probably more |
| 21:53.20 | aestil | whats the development cycle on an MMO |
| 21:53.31 | NeoTron | Indefinite! |
| 21:53.47 | NeoTron | Starcraft 2 was announced 2 years ago with no release in sight yet |
| 21:53.50 | aestil | For some reason I thought they were like 3 years in. |
| 21:54.03 | aestil | true that. They are still 'shooting' for this year though ;) |
| 21:54.15 | aestil | if they don't release it this year, they'll ruin their streak of #1 selling game of the year. |
| 21:54.18 | NeoTron | don't get me wrong, I want to know too... especially since it's all new IP |
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| 21:54.33 | aestil | I hate them for that, since I wanted starcraft mmo :( |
| 21:54.40 | NeoTron | I want to know if it's the rumored western scifi theme or not (i.e like Firefly or something) |
| 21:55.01 | NeoTron | I want a good scifi mmo.. starcraft doesn't really have a good set of sides to make into player factions |
| 21:55.04 | QuantumDelta | star trek lol? |
| 21:55.08 | NeoTron | I mean you can obviously not play the zerk |
| 21:55.31 | NeoTron | and the protoss are superior one to one so you'd have to dumb them down to make them reasonble as player characters |
| 21:55.34 | Tristanian | scifi mmo ? well wait a couple of years |
| 21:55.40 | Tristanian | and you get the KOTOR mmo :p |
| 21:55.43 | NeoTron | KOTOR |
| 21:55.48 | NeoTron | yes. I am waiting. :) |
| 21:56.00 | QuantumDelta | I have no hope for KOTOR |
| 21:56.01 | Tristanian | same, I just hope it doesn't degrade into Galaxies :p |
| 21:56.12 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: im going to fucking shoot you |
| 21:56.18 | ckknight | ? |
| 21:56.19 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: "<!DOCTYPE html>" |
| 21:56.20 | aestil | Bioware is developing KoToR MMO? |
| 21:56.29 | Tristanian | yep |
| 21:56.34 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:56.35 | ckknight | HTML5 |
| 21:56.39 | aestil | never made one before right? |
| 21:56.43 | ckknight | and stop making violent threats |
| 21:56.45 | NeoTron | correct |
| 21:56.48 | Arrowmaster | thats html5? |
| 21:56.50 | ckknight | yes. |
| 21:56.55 | Arrowmaster | oh god |
| 21:56.59 | nevcairiel | srsly Arrowmaster, start carrying out those threats |
| 21:57.01 | Tristanian | that's why it's gonna take long |
| 21:57.09 | VonhintenHOME` | where the hell is the aion beta client download |
| 21:57.13 | aestil | seems like blizzards next MMO should be faster |
| 21:57.15 | Arrowmaster | html5 is just so fucking wrong |
| 21:57.22 | NeoTron | aestil: hard to say |
| 21:57.25 | aestil | they should have the tools, and they have more knowhow at this point than anyone. |
| 21:57.37 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: if it means the end to flash and other such crap, maybe not |
| 21:57.41 | steev | wait what? |
| 21:57.43 | aestil | they can start off with the knowledge to do stuff like the phased world |
| 21:57.49 | steev | you're saying bioware never made an mmo before? |
| 21:58.05 | Tristanian | None of the magnitude of what they want to do at least |
| 21:58.10 | NeoTron | aestil: but I suspect the new MMO will be significantly grander |
| 21:58.13 | aestil | are you coulnting nevewrwinter nights? |
| 21:58.17 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: but its the end of any kind of logic to the web |
| 21:58.22 | Tristanian | NWN was not an MMO :p |
| 21:58.38 | aestil | NeoTron: probably... but the scale should not affect how fast they can develop for it |
| 21:58.38 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: didn't that end like forever ago when Netscape came out? :) |
| 21:58.53 | Tristanian | and DragonAge:Origins is also going to be single player |
| 21:58.55 | NeoTron | it does though |
| 21:58.58 | steev | damn still not til 2011 that kotor would be released |
| 21:59.07 | NeoTron | larger physical area means a lot more landscape and modeling work for starters |
| 21:59.15 | NeoTron | not to mention filling it with interesting things |
| 21:59.18 | Tristanian | like I said 2 years and even that may be too soon :P |
| 21:59.20 | aestil | which they have tools for now? |
| 21:59.30 | aestil | best tools for content creation in the industry i think? yes? |
| 21:59.32 | NeoTron | Blizzard seem to prefer carefully crafted environments to more random-generated-looking ones (thing SWG) |
| 21:59.36 | Tristanian | tools is not the problem |
| 21:59.41 | NeoTron | right |
| 21:59.41 | Tristanian | Blizzard is the problem |
| 21:59.52 | Tristanian | they've set a bad precedent, everyone is trying to top them :p |
| 21:59.55 | NeoTron | Blizzard never does anything fast |
| 22:00.02 | NeoTron | and they need to beat themself :P |
| 22:00.07 | Tristanian | exactly |
| 22:00.09 | Tristanian | :P |
| 22:00.10 | aestil | i like to beat myself. |
| 22:00.13 | aestil | oh wait. |
| 22:00.17 | NeoTron | they are their own worst enemy in the MMORPG space |
| 22:00.47 | Tristanian | I would say they have a healthy subscriber base to draw |
| 22:00.52 | Tristanian | for their next MMO |
| 22:00.56 | Tristanian | whenever that may be |
| 22:01.02 | aestil | I see a station pass sort of thing |
| 22:01.18 | steev | i wish they would move shit to jabber like soe did |
| 22:01.23 | aestil | play both games for $25 a month, the new one for $20 a month, or WoW for $15 a month. |
| 22:01.29 | aestil | jabber? |
| 22:01.36 | steev | its nice to be able to chat with my friends without logging into the game |
| 22:01.40 | steev | when they are in game |
| 22:01.41 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: thats weird, clicking on your little W3C Validate link wouldnt work with automatic doctype detection but it worked when i manually changed it to html5 |
| 22:01.42 | steev | yes |
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| 22:01.51 | steev | you can login to your soe account on a jabber server |
| 22:01.58 | steev | in windows you just use the station chat client |
| 22:01.59 | ckknight | hmm, it works for me fine and detects it as HTML5 |
| 22:02.11 | NeoTron | steev: yeah that would be absolutely awesome |
| 22:02.21 | steev | would be better for communicating with people |
| 22:02.31 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: "Sorry! This document can not be checked." |
| 22:02.47 | ckknight | W3C's validator has been having some issues today |
| 22:02.51 | ckknight | which page did you try to check? |
| 22:02.51 | NeoTron | aestil: I suspect moving > $15 per month is unlikely. it's a rather hard barrier in people's mind |
| 22:02.59 | Arrowmaster | the main page |
| 22:03.08 | ckknight | does it give a reason? |
| 22:03.11 | aestil | NeoTron: for blizzard brand new game....? I bet it happens. |
| 22:03.25 | Arrowmaster | External Checker not available |
| 22:03.26 | Arrowmaster | Checking the Document Type of this document requires the help of an external tool which was either not enabled in this validator, or is currently unavailable. Check in the validator's system configuration that HTML5 Validator is enabled and functional. |
| 22:03.32 | aestil | $20 for month to month, $17 for 6 months at atime |
| 22:03.43 | NeoTron | unless the market in general has changed by I think it's unlikely. doesn't seem to be something thatmoves up fast |
| 22:03.44 | Arrowmaster | what the hell |
| 22:04.14 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, they've been having issues today |
| 22:04.18 | ckknight | it was just slow as balls this morning |
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| 22:04.21 | ckknight | but then stopped working |
| 22:04.23 | ckknight | :[ |
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| 22:09.28 | waallen | Zarnivoop: I am still getting that bug where sometimes the second and third damaging skills aren't getting displayed even if max bars is set to 15 |
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| 22:16.54 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: you or anyone else still getting the choppy draggy movements on comments? |
| 22:17.10 | Arrowmaster | let me revert to default theme |
| 22:17.33 | Arrowmaster | i am getting another strange behavior though |
| 22:18.36 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: yes i am still getting it but its greatly reduced, for the most part its not causing 100% cpu usage |
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| 22:20.02 | Belazor | Noah has quit (Excess Flood) |
| 22:20.30 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: yes i am still getting it but its greatly reduced, for the most part its not causing 100% cpu usage |
| 22:20.53 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 22:20.53 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: i have a new 100% cpu usage problem though |
| 22:21.24 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: oh? |
| 22:21.41 | Belazor | It still is choppy on FF3.5 RC1 |
| 22:22.02 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: when editing a theme, 100% cpu usage as long as the large text area has focus |
| 22:22.16 | Kaelten | you've got to be shitting me |
| 22:22.20 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:22.38 | Arrowmaster | is there some javascript being run on it or something? |
| 22:22.54 | ckknight | there's an autoexpanding thing that occurs when you type something |
| 22:22.57 | ckknight | not on focus |
| 22:23.16 | Belazor | Good sir, I believe your claim is so extraordinarily ridiculous that I find it hard to accept it as fact without some solid evidence to back it up. |
| 22:23.17 | Arrowmaster | well with just a blinking cursor i get it |
| 22:23.53 | Arrowmaster | Belazor: want me to get the digial camera out again and take another shitty motion jpeg vid |
| 22:24.03 | Kaelten | lol |
| 22:24.10 | Belazor | No I was just rewriting "you've got to be shitting me" in fancy English |
| 22:24.11 | Belazor | XD |
| 22:24.23 | Belazor | Also why tf is there not a smarter reply system in place on the comments yet? You know, with indenting? :p |
| 22:24.58 | ckknight | found it |
| 22:25.20 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: my 100% cpu usage on the text area? |
| 22:25.25 | ckknight | yea |
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| 22:25.54 | Arrowmaster | this better be something extrodionarlly stupid so its worth it for the laugh |
| 22:26.17 | Caleb| | I have problem with the change log text area |
| 22:26.24 | Caleb| | at the file section |
| 22:26.34 | Arrowmaster | probably the same issue |
| 22:26.38 | Caleb| | text doesn't get loaded if I use firefox |
| 22:26.46 | Arrowmaster | lol? |
| 22:27.28 | Belazor | I think he's trying to say that the bgcolour of the textarea that's suppose to have the file path is the same as the font colour, so that it seems like it's invisible |
| 22:27.31 | Belazor | Or maybe not |
| 22:27.36 | Belazor | But it's a common mistake regardless |
| 22:27.54 | Belazor | The input area, not the textarea (different html elements) |
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| 22:28.28 | Caleb| | yeah input area |
| 22:29.41 | Arrowmaster | actually i see the same issue |
| 22:29.54 | Belazor | Someone sucks at CSS |
| 22:29.55 | Belazor | XD |
| 22:30.17 | Arrowmaster | no the input is empty |
| 22:31.22 | Belazor | we are talking about a normal file input right? browse button and the works? |
| 22:31.34 | Belazor | because if you've selected a file then it's impossible for the input to be empty :P |
| 22:31.41 | Arrowmaster | when i view the page source though it shows the <textarea> as having the changelog in it |
| 22:32.16 | Arrowmaster | Belazor: you dont have a moderator account on wowace do you? |
| 22:32.21 | Belazor | nay |
| 22:32.29 | Arrowmaster | so i cant give you a link to show you |
| 22:32.42 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cartographer/files/2574-v2-5-4/edit/?slug=cartographer-v2-5-4 |
| 22:32.43 | Belazor | shitty motion jpeg? |
| 22:33.01 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: ick, what page is that on? |
| 22:33.02 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: the Change log textarea is blank |
| 22:33.10 | ckknight | known bug |
| 22:33.23 | Arrowmaster | ok, but view source shows the changelog as being there |
| 22:33.38 | ckknight | wth |
| 22:33.40 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:33.40 | Kaelten | yeah tis a bug |
| 22:33.54 | ckknight | fix incoming for the focus lag |
| 22:33.59 | End | I thought it was a feature |
| 22:34.00 | ckknight | and live |
| 22:34.01 | Arrowmaster | more shitty javascript bug or some weird html5 bug? |
| 22:34.12 | ckknight | javascript, my guess |
| 22:34.22 | Arrowmaster | you and your damn javascript |
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| 22:34.49 | Kaelten | was fine in like.... every other browser |
| 22:34.51 | Kaelten | :D |
| 22:35.02 | Kaelten | not our javascript though |
| 22:35.59 | Kaelten | ok I'm getting 5% cpu usage instead of 100% |
| 22:36.53 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: ok now go forth and fix the login/logout not sending you back to your previous page |
| 22:39.08 | ckknight | it's not javascript, since disabling javascript doesn't help |
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| 22:44.04 | Bruners | BadBoy_CCleaner is something i should be installing? |
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| 22:54.30 | ckknight | fixed the changelog bug |
| 22:54.43 | Kaelten | gah that was a fun one |
| 23:02.54 | Arrowmaster | what was it? |
| 23:05.28 | ckknight | a javascript bug |
| 23:05.31 | ckknight | in the end |
| 23:05.40 | ckknight | in one of the libs we use |
| 23:06.42 | Arrowmaster | heh |
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| 23:31.40 | thul | how _fucking_ hard is it to kill the spawn-things on the voidboss in VH? |
| 23:31.43 | thul | FFS |
| 23:32.42 | NeoTron | very |
| 23:33.26 | thul | seriously |
| 23:33.34 | thul | I can't play with pugs when I§m tired and grumpu |
| 23:35.06 | Bruners | luls, you dont even have to kill them? |
| 23:42.24 | Bruners | what is the command to swap itemsets with the blizzard tool? |
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| 23:49.48 | pakoz | shefki, you around? |
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| 23:50.54 | pakoz | I'm trying to find out how much it helps switching from dog tag to lua for pitbull4 - it wont be an easy task for me |
| 23:51.55 | pakoz | before i put myself at suicide risk i want to know what kind of benefits im looking at |
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| 23:55.23 | Shefki | pakoz: It's really impossible for me to say how big of an improvement for you it will be. |
| 23:59.18 | Bruners | are DogTags that bad? |
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