| 00:00.11 | ckknight | I should publish the whole Sass soon. |
| 00:00.34 | ckknight | okay, everyone |
| 00:00.37 | ckknight | !gradients = false |
| 00:00.40 | SqueeG | i'm stealing from stan now |
| 00:00.40 | ckknight | turns off gradients |
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| 00:09.09 | Belazor | ckknight: Lynx is supported, how about IE6? ;D |
| 00:09.19 | ckknight | fuck IE6 |
| 00:09.30 | ckknight | we even show a bar for IE7 telling them to upgrade |
| 00:10.18 | Belazor | I was hoping you'd say that XD "durka we support a text-only browser but not IE6, fuck that shit" |
| 00:10.19 | Belazor | XD |
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| 00:12.14 | ckknight | we only support Lynx by coincidence |
| 00:12.25 | ckknight | http://kb.wowace.com/recommended-browsers/ |
| 00:13.27 | ckknight | btw, if your gradients have been looking banded, please refresh, it might be fixed now |
| 00:14.03 | SqueeG | that way your gradient coloring works is interesting |
| 00:14.50 | SqueeG | 009900 is the best background gradient color....ever |
| 00:14.54 | ckknight | @project curseforge-artisan |
| 00:14.55 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge-artisan/. CurseForge Artisan. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 71 days ago |
| 00:15.01 | ckknight | that's what generates ;-) |
| 00:15.32 | SqueeG | it doesn't say much about artisan |
| 00:15.35 | SqueeG | i looked at the page |
| 00:17.21 | Repo | 10mailboxplus: 03Speeddymon * r15 MailboxPlus.lua: Fix 2 nil errors |
| 00:17.30 | Belazor | ethan wins 5 internets for that image |
| 00:17.32 | Belazor | fuggen saved |
| 00:19.02 | Antiarc | http://www.flickr.com/photos/monoki/3635805132/ |
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| 00:19.56 | SqueeG | hahahahaha |
| 00:20.02 | Belazor | that's mean XD |
| 00:20.13 | SqueeG | so how many of you knew there were two unofficial expansions for StarCraft? O_O |
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| 00:22.05 | Lysithea | I've noticed lately that I only use the dmg and healing parts from msbt as a sort of indicator when stuff happens, as in alot of dmgtaken = lots of text right side, healing = lots of text left side... is there an addon that would actually show a stream instead that could emulate a sort of "activity"? (dont know how to explain it) Cause really, the text/numbers I could be without since I usually check those in eavesdrop |
| 00:22.07 | Funkeh` | ckknight, the projects page is blank |
| 00:22.08 | Lysithea | I mainly play arenas |
| 00:22.35 | Funkeh` | and by blank I mean the layout load but there is no content |
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| 00:22.55 | Lysithea | I could imagine a round object growing or shrinking or just a stream which would get wider during more activity |
| 00:23.23 | Lysithea | is there any such addon around already? |
| 00:23.33 | Lysithea | Cause I havent heared of one |
| 00:23.37 | SqueeG | Neither have i |
| 00:23.44 | Belazor | ckknight: Fix the top right and bottom left rounded corners, they look pixellated in FF 3.5 RC1 |
| 00:23.49 | SqueeG | I do believe that's a niche idea :) |
| 00:24.08 | ckknight | Belazor: -moz-border-radius: 10px |
| 00:24.10 | Belazor | I think it's the transition from grey to black that produces that effect |
| 00:24.10 | ckknight | fix Firefox. |
| 00:24.23 | ckknight | Funkeh`: link |
| 00:24.27 | Belazor | I blame you |
| 00:24.35 | Belazor | And your biological mother |
| 00:24.36 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowace.com/projects/ |
| 00:24.39 | Lysithea | yeah, I mean, for arenas I basically never actually read those numbers, I just get a feeling of the incoming dmg/healing through the amount of text happening |
| 00:25.00 | ckknight | Funkeh`: what browser do you use? |
| 00:25.09 | Funkeh` | opera 10 |
| 00:25.10 | Belazor | Lysithea: You could try recount's graph module |
| 00:25.15 | ckknight | loads |
| 00:25.31 | ckknight | wtf opera |
| 00:25.31 | Funkeh` | the new beta build from a few days ago |
| 00:25.44 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:25.45 | ckknight | I got that one |
| 00:25.54 | ckknight | I blame Opera |
| 00:25.56 | ckknight | but I'll try to fix |
| 00:25.57 | Lysithea | that one wouldnt really work well for what I'd want tho, I think |
| 00:25.58 | Belazor | Yeah opera thinks they "reinvent the web" by including more useless bullshit services in its browser |
| 00:26.05 | Belazor | it's a stream |
| 00:26.06 | Belazor | of sorts |
| 00:26.07 | Belazor | XD |
| 00:26.11 | Lysithea | yeah I know |
| 00:26.37 | Lysithea | but well, it woudlnt be configurable enough to actually be usefull :) |
| 00:27.01 | Belazor | It's a graph that shows the PewPewDPS or HewHewHPS, what config does it need |
| 00:27.02 | Belazor | :p |
| 00:27.12 | Lysithea | since my lua knowledge and wow addon shizzle is very limited, would it be hard to make that addon? |
| 00:27.25 | SqueeG | i broke wowace's background :p |
| 00:27.42 | SqueeG | #99FF99 |
| 00:27.46 | SqueeG | use it, nao |
| 00:28.09 | Funkeh` | could quite well be an opera problem |
| 00:28.13 | Funkeh` | wouldn't be the first time |
| 00:28.15 | ckknight | how do I turn off Opera's javascript? |
| 00:28.20 | ckknight | I wanna see if that's the issue or if it's just css |
| 00:28.22 | Funkeh` | um |
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| 00:28.51 | Lysithea | meh, ill write some post and mockup of what I imagine in my head somwhere and maybe someone finds it usefull |
| 00:28.52 | Funkeh` | preferences |
| 00:28.54 | Funkeh` | advanced |
| 00:28.57 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/wowace.png <-- doesn't look very hot |
| 00:29.00 | Funkeh` | conent |
| 00:29.02 | Funkeh` | content |
| 00:29.05 | Funkeh` | untick javascript |
| 00:29.13 | ckknight | found it |
| 00:29.21 | ckknight | NeoTron: what browser? |
| 00:29.33 | NeoTron | Firefox 2 |
| 00:29.37 | SqueeG | i'm totally keeping tha background color now... |
| 00:29.41 | SqueeG | that's fucking awesome |
| 00:29.43 | ckknight | not supported, NeoTron |
| 00:30.06 | Funkeh` | meh |
| 00:30.15 | Funkeh` | the more I use opera 10 the more I think fx sucks balls in comparison |
| 00:30.29 | ckknight | oh, no rebuttal |
| 00:30.35 | SqueeG | i want more addons written for chrome |
| 00:30.46 | ckknight | okay, Opera's issue does seem to be caused by Javascript |
| 00:30.47 | SqueeG | I don't feel secure with out some of mine >.> |
| 00:31.14 | Funkeh` | operas javascript engine is pretty secure as is |
| 00:31.15 | NeoTron | wtb old wowace then |
| 00:31.20 | Funkeh` | blocks a lot of malicious stuff |
| 00:31.35 | Belazor | or firefox with noscript |
| 00:31.41 | Funkeh` | hence why I don't give a shit I lost noscript |
| 00:31.53 | Belazor | also, has opera fixed its bullshit excuse of an adblocker yet? |
| 00:31.56 | Belazor | no sorry, content blocker |
| 00:32.06 | Funkeh` | what? it's ad blocker is better than fx's |
| 00:32.19 | Funkeh` | wtf is a content blocker |
| 00:32.22 | Belazor | can it collapse yet? because in v8 or v9 it couldn't do that |
| 00:32.25 | Funkeh` | like phishing? |
| 00:32.42 | Belazor | no, its what opera calls their adblocker, because calling it adblocker would be negative I guess |
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| 00:33.10 | Funkeh` | it's called block popups for me |
| 00:33.20 | Belazor | Im not talking about popups O.o |
| 00:33.25 | Belazor | fuck, IE7 blocks popups |
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| 00:33.33 | Belazor | Im talking about flash/image advertisements |
| 00:33.42 | Belazor | blocking them, and then collapsing the space they were in |
| 00:33.43 | Funkeh` | why would it block that |
| 00:34.05 | Funkeh` | well Ive used a hosts file to block such shit and some websites colapse others dont |
| 00:34.18 | Belazor | because that's what the adblock extension to FF does, and without it surfing the web is like dousing yourself in shit |
| 00:34.37 | Funkeh` | if you say so |
| 00:34.54 | Belazor | I do believe I did in fact say so, just now :O |
| 00:35.17 | Funkeh` | no, you tried to imply a fact with an opinion |
| 00:35.53 | Belazor | okay, so I need to qualify everything I say with "IMO" even when I didn't state it was an universal fact? |
| 00:36.12 | Belazor | Seems like it's easier to say "in fact" when one's referring to facts, rather than say "IMO" to everything else |
| 00:36.16 | Funkeh` | Well, "IMO" your "opinion" is bulslhit |
| 00:36.55 | Funkeh` | Especially considering 90% of internet users survive it fine with falsh and ads everywhere |
| 00:37.42 | Belazor | 74% of statistics are made up on the spot. but yea, I tried opera back in the beginning of v9 and its content blocker was not a complete waste of space, but while the ads were blocked, the space they were in didn't collapse. And that's what I love about FF's adblocker; you can even tell it to block specific div tags so that if an ad was within a div so it doesn't auto-collapse, it can be forced |
| 00:37.46 | Funkeh` | if you want to block it, block it. But saying the itnernet is unusable without blocking them is utter crud |
| 00:38.05 | Funkeh` | and a lot of websites that the addon collapses, just break |
| 00:38.11 | Funkeh` | from my past experience anyway |
| 00:38.33 | Belazor | can't say I've ran into such an issue, maybe I've just been lucky XD |
| 00:38.57 | Belazor | I didn't say unusable, just that pretty much every website is now so plastered down with flashy ads it could give a corpse a seizure :p |
| 00:39.24 | Funkeh` | True, but I can't judge Opera on how it deals with ads because I haven't saw one in years |
| 00:41.15 | Funkeh` | all I can do is how you something like this: |
| 00:42.52 | Funkeh` | http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/421/operaads.jpg |
| 00:43.00 | Funkeh` | but you need to know what it looks like with ads too |
| 00:43.21 | vhaarr | wowhead has ads? |
| 00:43.30 | Mikk | I like opera because of the integrated mail & rss |
| 00:43.30 | Belazor | looks identical to my firefox rendering ;) |
| 00:43.35 | Belazor | Ill check IE |
| 00:44.01 | Belazor | maybe spybot's hosts file killed the ads |
| 00:44.06 | Belazor | because I dont see them here either |
| 00:44.11 | Funkeh` | most likely |
| 00:44.11 | Mikk | Back when, i liked it because of tabbed browsing & mouse gestures, but FF kinda caught up |
| 00:44.45 | Mikk | Or, I should say, FF came to be. I started using opera around netscape4. *shudder* |
| 00:44.51 | Belazor | XD |
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| 00:46.04 | Belazor | eh, FF's RSS reader works for me (live bookmarks is neat) and I have an external mail app. I also don't like how installing opera usurps your .torrent file association if you have another torrent client installed (or did they add an installer option for this?) |
| 00:46.43 | Mikk | eh, it never ate mine |
| 00:46.51 | Funkeh` | mine either |
| 00:46.59 | Funkeh` | still assosiated to microtorrent |
| 00:47.10 | Mikk | maybe your torrent app installed itself in a stupid nonstandard way and operas installer failed to detect |
| 00:47.23 | Mikk | shrugs |
| 00:48.10 | Belazor | mate who installed it uses µTorrent |
| 00:48.26 | Belazor | dunno if he just dloaded the .exe or actually used installer |
| 00:48.35 | Mikk | i use uTorrent too |
| 00:48.38 | Mikk | shrugs |
| 00:48.42 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I figured out the bad function and disabled it for opera |
| 00:48.46 | ckknight | I'll fix it properly soon. |
| 00:48.48 | taleden | lua> print(1==true) |
| 00:48.49 | lua_bot | taleden: false |
| 00:48.58 | Belazor | but whatever the case, there's no excuse for why the installer would not be able to just detect "okay, .torrent is set, ask user if we want to override" |
| 00:49.04 | Funkeh` | ckknight, yup, refreshing the page it works now |
| 00:49.06 | SqueeG | ckk |
| 00:49.10 | SqueeG | nvm |
| 00:49.11 | Funkeh` | is it an opera problem? |
| 00:49.21 | ckknight | I don't know the specific problem |
| 00:49.24 | ckknight | I'll look into it |
| 00:49.42 | Funkeh` | k, might need a bug report on it, just saying |
| 00:57.30 | SqueeG | ckknight, there's no way of adjusting the width of the 'end' bkgd color is there? |
| 01:00.12 | ckknight | !body_background_gradient_size = 200px |
| 01:00.40 | SqueeG | aha |
| 01:00.41 | SqueeG | excellent |
| 01:00.43 | SqueeG | thanks =) |
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| 01:53.24 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r111 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 01:53.27 | Repo | Utopia: Text for deaths and boss events will no longer overlap. |
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| 02:10.00 | SqueeG | ckknight you aroudn? |
| 02:10.01 | SqueeG | around* |
| 02:11.20 | Zyndrome | this is getting out of hand |
| 02:11.27 | SqueeG | ? |
| 02:11.39 | Zyndrome | computer freezes, screen locks but the sound continues for like a minute, then it freezes too |
| 02:12.04 | Zyndrome | reset computer, and the soundcard drivers have vanished |
| 02:12.05 | SqueeG | O_O |
| 02:13.06 | Zyndrome | fixed now though, by forcing it to use the ones stored in the drivers listing in the system .... (that didnt make much sense did it...) |
| 02:13.24 | SqueeG | ah well :p |
| 02:13.26 | Zyndrome | if it's not that, then it's my graphics-card being arse |
| 02:13.27 | SqueeG | at least it's fixed |
| 02:13.42 | SqueeG | i can't close my case =D |
| 02:13.44 | Zyndrome | nVidia are proud about their unfixable "nv4_disp infinite loop" crash/bug/BSOD |
| 02:13.53 | SqueeG | lol |
| 02:14.29 | Zyndrome | and if you go around looking or asking for a fix, it ranges between a driver problem to ritual sacrifices of babies in the bathtub |
| 02:14.39 | SqueeG | niiiiiiiice |
| 02:14.57 | Zyndrome | though the latter is probably more likely to fix it |
| 02:14.59 | SqueeG | I vote B |
| 02:15.05 | SqueeG | aye it's true |
| 02:15.28 | Zyndrome | and I think my 8800GTS 320mb is getting ... old |
| 02:15.53 | Zyndrome | I look at cheap cards and they cost almost nothing and are better :C |
| 02:16.05 | SqueeG | -.- |
| 02:16.28 | kenlyric | old stuff gets old |
| 02:16.36 | kenlyric | someone change the channel topic to warn everyone |
| 02:18.32 | SqueeG | O-o |
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| 02:25.07 | SqueeG | blerg |
| 02:25.32 | SqueeG | which setting effects the sortable column headers >.o |
| 02:28.57 | Zyndrome | when everything else fails, use Stylish |
| 02:30.48 | Repo | 10fishing-ace: 03Sutorix * r82 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 02:30.51 | Repo | FishingAce: share LibFishing with Fishing Buddy so we get all the shared improvement goodness |
| 02:33.22 | Repo | 10fishing-ace: 03Sutorix 04v0.4.5d * r83 : Release v0.4.5d |
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| 03:09.46 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2119 RecipeDB/ARL-Enchant.lua: |
| 03:09.49 | Repo | Update some enchatning things, testing out why Surefooted is not showing up on my toon. |
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| 03:17.26 | SqueeG | ckknight: Wowace randomly refuses to use the proper skin on certain tabs, while other tabs will skin |
| 03:17.45 | SqueeG | And then it fixes itself again |
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| 03:27.36 | Repo | 10mailboxplus: 03Speeddymon 04alpha-2 * r16 : Tagging as alpha-2 |
| 03:32.11 | ckknight | Opera 10 has issues. |
| 03:35.59 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 043.0.173-beta * r173 : Tagging as 3.0.173-beta |
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| 03:48.34 | digmouse | oops who designed the news skin? |
| 03:49.37 | ckknight | mostly me |
| 03:50.24 | Axodious | my friend ran that unite thing |
| 03:50.30 | Axodious | scares me, average ppl having a webserver |
| 03:50.31 | Axodious | ugh |
| 03:52.00 | Bruners | since when was settip up a webserver hard? |
| 03:52.07 | Bruners | *setting |
| 03:52.48 | Axodious | i'm not worried about people setting it up, what happens if theres a vuln with it and you've got like 2 million 13 y/o kids thinking its cool to run |
| 03:52.50 | Axodious | MAYHEN! |
| 03:52.58 | ckknight | mayhen indeed. |
| 03:53.01 | Axodious | s/mayhen/mayhem/ |
| 03:53.05 | Axodious | :( |
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| 03:58.29 | Bruners | to bad for those 2 million 13 y/o kids then |
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| 04:03.19 | Fisker | outfarts Bruners |
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| 04:05.07 | Bruners | Axodious: what about the 2 billion people using computers with a vulnerability ? |
| 04:05.16 | Bruners | morning Fisker |
| 04:07.16 | Bruners | http://www.vgtv.no/?id=22869 <- owned |
| 04:11.46 | Fisker | what is about? |
| 04:14.21 | Fisker | slaps Bruners around a bit with a large trout |
| 04:14.24 | Fisker | then i hate you |
| 04:14.30 | Zyndrome | oh just a girl who (as she says) fell asleep at the tattoo and got 56 stars tattooed on her face |
| 04:14.56 | Zyndrome | and she says she just wanted a few |
| 04:15.22 | Zyndrome | and the artist looks like a scrapyard in the face, claiming she wasn't asleep and didnt complain :P |
| 04:16.13 | Zyndrome | ... how do you fall sleep while having a needle in your face? |
| 04:17.08 | Zeksie | with that much metal, he could have been watching satalite tv.. |
| 04:21.02 | Nechckn | fell asleep... yeah, right. |
| 04:21.37 | Fisker | no iu |
| 04:21.39 | Fisker | no u |
| 04:22.55 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * 5da372a GearGauge.lua: [+1 commit] Added BONUSES table for bonus text displays and value multipliers. |
| 04:22.56 | copystring | anyone knows what the spellschool 0 is for? i've got a but report here, i checked the combat log entry it is indeed spellschool 0 provided by blizz |
| 04:25.17 | Bruners | Fisker: sorry, was in the shower |
| 04:25.43 | Fisker | so was i |
| 04:25.47 | Fisker | if you catch my drift |
| 04:28.29 | Fisker | then i hate you yet again |
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| 04:38.08 | Fisker | slaps Bruners around a bit with a large trout |
| 04:39.07 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r233 / (2 files in 2 directories): - tweaked the code a bit |
| 04:39.10 | Repo | - (Temporary) fix for gladiator gloves generating an energize event with a zero(not nil) spellschool |
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| 05:08.49 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:11.59 | gfy | I am checking out geargauge, it can't find LibQTipClick-1.0 even if it's installed |
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| 05:18.40 | Torhal | gfy: What error are you getting? |
| 05:20.31 | gfy | It can't find an instance of said library |
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| 05:31.24 | Torhal | gfy: Weird... |
| 05:34.18 | gfy | oh wait |
| 05:34.19 | gfy | [2009/06/18 07:31:37-1856-x1]: GearGauge-r20090618042224\GearGauge.lua:34: Cannot find a library instance of "LibQTipClick-1.1".Ace2-r1096\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:49: in function `LibStub'GearGauge-r20090618042224\GearGauge.lua:34: in main chunk |
| 05:35.02 | gfy | I've downloaded LibQTipClick-1.0 rather than the 1.1 version |
| 05:36.29 | Torhal | Aha |
| 05:36.32 | Torhal | That'll do it. |
| 05:38.58 | gfy | yep, it works! |
| 05:39.13 | Torhal | Good deal :) |
| 05:41.27 | sb|work | morning |
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| 06:38.46 | ckknight | not much action going on |
| 06:38.58 | Torhal | ckknight: All the hookers went to bed, I guess. |
| 06:40.10 | ckknight | I suppose |
| 06:40.56 | Elkano | ok, ckk, fixed m stupid mistake and now it works fine :) could slap myself though |
| 06:41.03 | Elkano | ~seen nymbia |
| 06:41.05 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-165-238-170.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 48d 52m 2s ago, saying: 'yeah'. |
| 06:42.46 | Elkano | btw, would it be possible to be added to PeriodicTable-3.1 as an author in order to have easier access to the comments and such since I'm one of its maintainers and nymbia hasn't been online on wowace for over a half year now :/ |
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| 06:45.07 | ckknight | sure |
| 06:45.28 | Hjalte | WoW seems to crash every other time I exit on my laptop. Is there anything I can do about that? |
| 06:45.39 | ckknight | @project periodictable-3-1 |
| 06:45.40 | Repo | ckknight: No project found that matches 'periodictable-3-1' |
| 06:45.46 | ckknight | @project libperiodictable-3-1 |
| 06:45.47 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libperiodictable-3-1/. LibPeriodicTable-3.1. Game: WoW. Nymbia (Manager/Author), Azethoth (Author). Updated: 2 days ago |
| 06:46.08 | ckknight | k, Elkano |
| 06:47.24 | Torhal | Elkano: Actually, at this point, you're the only maintainer. Toadkiller has completely dropped Grid2 and is looking for an AutoBar successor. |
| 06:47.46 | Elkano | oh, ok |
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| 06:49.59 | ckknight | linguistics is interesting |
| 06:51.36 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r50 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added an option to disable CastYeller2. |
| 06:51.39 | Repo | Locales updated. |
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| 06:59.15 | Elkano | ckknight, can you remove http://www.wowace.com/projects/sharedmedia-mymedia/ since I decided to keep that in SM itself |
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| 06:59.32 | Elkano | and how do you set an icon for a project? or did you just mean the default image? |
| 06:59.39 | ckknight | edit project, development stage -> abandoned/deleted |
| 06:59.49 | ckknight | default image = icon |
| 07:07.47 | Elkano | hmm... what categorie would be fitting for my ItemDB? :/ none fits perfectly but misc doesn't allow me to add DataBroker, too :/ |
| 07:08.29 | Torhal | Elkano: Kaelten made it so Misc was exclusive, since it was being used for a huge number of projects. |
| 07:09.01 | Shefki | Wow Shadowed made an ass of himself. |
| 07:09.07 | Shefki | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=65321.15 |
| 07:09.08 | Torhal | ? |
| 07:09.33 | Elkano | well, I see the point in that but I don't have any matching primary cat :/ |
| 07:09.52 | Elkano | Shefki, you also did code the rune display for PB4, right? |
| 07:10.06 | Shefki | Elkano: No ck did that. |
| 07:10.14 | Shefki | I did the Aura code. |
| 07:10.34 | Elkano | ah, ok, since enableing/disableing it swaps the icons for voice/pvp at the playerframe |
| 07:10.57 | Shefki | Elkano: Hmm. |
| 07:11.08 | Elkano | at least in config mode |
| 07:11.31 | Elkano | btw, is there an easy way to move it around or change its layout besides editing the lua files? |
| 07:11.53 | Torhal | Shefki: ...WTF? LOL. |
| 07:12.10 | Shefki | Elkano: Position under the tab for indicators. |
| 07:12.19 | Torhal | That is some funny shit. |
| 07:13.37 | orionshock | can anyone point to a code snippet that will do smart game tooltip anchoring? |
| 07:14.44 | Torhal | orionshock: Look at LQT's SmartAnchorTo |
| 07:14.51 | Elkano | Torhal, in which category would you put a tool to view all items in the client's cache ingame? or should I go with Data Export? |
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| 07:15.12 | Torhal | Data Export implies something you'd use out of game, like in a web site |
| 07:15.17 | Torhal | Lemme see |
| 07:16.23 | Torhal | Elkano: Looks like you're stuck in the same boat as me. I was forced to use "Bags & Inventory" for GearGauge, though Kaelten did say he may add an "Equipment" subcat for it |
| 07:16.47 | [Ammo] | use misc |
| 07:16.49 | [Ammo] | pewpew :p |
| 07:17.07 | [Ammo] | I sure hope someone will make the icons and fontsize of the addon name on the project list smaller |
| 07:17.12 | Torhal | I was using misc originally, but Kaelten is on a crusade against it for some reason. |
| 07:17.14 | [Ammo] | I am not blind |
| 07:17.15 | Torhal | I think CC related |
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| 07:23.52 | orionshock | thx Torhal. Im rewriting my first bloated addon :) |
| 07:24.00 | VonhintenHOME` | Finally got XLootMaster working again |
| 07:24.09 | Torhal | orionshock: Woo! |
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| 07:24.29 | Lukian | Zeksie :> |
| 07:24.31 | VonhintenHOME` | Code has been broken for so long, I missed it |
| 07:26.10 | orionshock | tho im at a loss for what to use for the LDB Icon for it. It's a simple feed that reports players afk in a bg |
| 07:28.16 | Elkano | ckknight, what happend to the store? the link on wowace is pointing to a server that isn't answering and the one at cf is gone |
| 07:31.00 | Torhal | Elkano: Use store.curseforge.com for now, they need to point DNS |
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| 07:32.53 | Groktar | [00:32:04][Groktar] has earned the achievement [Alterac Valley Victory]! |
| 07:33.44 | orionshock | grr.. chocolate is ghay... |
| 07:33.49 | Torhal | ? |
| 07:33.54 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:34.05 | Torhal | Howso? |
| 07:34.18 | Torhal | Aside from the name |
| 07:34.38 | orionshock | if u register OnEnter/OnLeave & OnTooltipShow - it calls OnTooltipShow & the OnLeave Methods respectively... this is not spec... |
| 07:34.55 | Torhal | Hah |
| 07:36.12 | orionshock | the idea behind regsitereing the handlers and onTTShow is so that the handlers can cascade call into OnTTShow if the display doesn't support onTTShow; this way u only have to implement your particular needs in one spot yet still be flexible to the dipslays. |
| 07:37.12 | Torhal | As far as I knew, it was an either/or system. Either OnTooltipShow, or OnEnter/Leave |
| 07:37.21 | Torhal | hasn't read the spec in awhile, though. |
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| 07:41.53 | orionshock | the feed can have both, but the display should use on or the other, not a hybrid. tekkub's own example uses the handler/OnTTShow method in 1 feed :) |
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| 08:02.31 | Repo | 10lib-textbook: 03TAP3AH * r6 LibTextbook.lua: |
| 08:02.34 | Repo | old versions of two lunar festival recipes marked as "removed" |
| 08:03.00 | Repo | 10auctionator-recipelist: 03TAP3AH * r7 / (2 files in 2 directories): LibTextbook updated to r6 |
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| 08:18.16 | Cheadstina | English might not be my first language but what on earth do they mean with: "New 5-player dungeon with three encounters that will include Champion's Seals as each one is defeated" |
| 08:18.32 | Cheadstina | do the bosses drop Champion's seals? |
| 08:19.37 | Torhal | Apparently |
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| 08:22.53 | cauchy | everytime you defeat a boss there, you will be provided with Champion's Seal |
| 08:23.09 | Cheadstina | ok |
| 08:25.48 | cauchy | most likely they will have it on them when they die |
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| 08:40.28 | orionshock | if i may gather the opinion of the channel (dangerous i know); what would be a reasonable minimum of damage+healing that one should have contributed to a given battleground with in the first 5mins or so? |
| 08:40.44 | cauchy | who cares? |
| 08:40.55 | orionshock | for reporting players afk.. |
| 08:41.09 | Shefki | orionshock: You shouldn't report players based off the meters. |
| 08:41.22 | Shefki | For all you know they've clicked on the flag at stables and they're standing there guarding it. |
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| 08:41.39 | Shefki | Not their fault the other side didn't show up to take it. |
| 08:41.46 | orionshock | Shefki: yes, this is true. it's not perfect but fits a 90% of cases tho. |
| 08:42.06 | Shefki | Yes and a 10% false positive rate is horrible. |
| 08:42.33 | orionshock | hehe... true.. |
| 08:42.46 | Shefki | People that push that sort of reporting encourage people to ignore the objectives of the BG and meter whore. |
| 08:42.52 | Shefki | PVE is bad enough with that crap. |
| 08:42.59 | Shefki | We don't need PVP to turn into that too. |
| 08:44.09 | orionshock | well consider this; right now i have it setup for 2k dmg+heals, so if u havn't done a combined total of 2k dmg/heals in the first 5mins then u get reported afk. Granted you have to look at what your doing; nothing automagic about the actual reporting just the selection. |
| 08:45.49 | orionshock | is that so bad an idea? |
| 08:52.32 | cauchy | god ... |
| 08:52.42 | cauchy | can't use curse repo at work :( |
| 08:53.01 | cauchy | they're blocking ssh port |
| 08:53.29 | Shefki | cauchy: Use git, put your repo on a usb key. |
| 08:53.33 | Shefki | push and pull from home. |
| 08:54.12 | cauchy | don't laugh now, but i don't have usb stick :D |
| 08:54.24 | cauchy | but that sounds like a good idea |
| 08:54.36 | Shefki | :) |
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| 09:06.15 | mitch0 | cauchy: if you have an "outside" box you can fiddle with, then you can tunnel out with https. search for connect.c on google :) |
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| 09:08.37 | cauchy | i'd love to put it through socks proxy |
| 09:10.46 | orionshock | cauchy: or u could use the unsecure access to svn ... |
| 09:11.24 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: why bother tunneling with https when you can just run an sshd on port 443 |
| 09:12.32 | mitch0 | arrow: our proxy won't let out pure ssh |
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| 09:12.42 | vhaarr | " * Once the Yogg-Saron encounter is started players outside of Yogg-Saron's area will begin to go insane, after 15 seconds.", okay, so what's the deal with that change, was there some exploit? |
| 09:12.51 | neon | vhaarr, Yeah |
| 09:13.04 | vhaarr | cool, care to tell me what? |
| 09:13.13 | Higdur_ | sounds intriguing :) |
| 09:13.15 | neon | vhaarr, You could spawn adds by mages using invis, and start the fight with several adds already at very low HP |
| 09:13.29 | vhaarr | neon: aah yeah I heard about that |
| 09:13.32 | vhaarr | thanks |
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| 09:13.59 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: so your firewall does packet inspection? |
| 09:14.04 | mitch0 | no |
| 09:14.04 | neon | mitch0, Your proxy can't differentiate between https and ssh |
| 09:14.13 | Arrowmaster | or is it just the proxy that bitches? |
| 09:14.22 | mitch0 | but it only allows http(s) traffic from the proxy |
| 09:14.28 | mitch0 | which does |
| 09:15.09 | Arrowmaster | even if you use the proxy option in putty with the default command of "connect %host %port\n" |
| 09:15.33 | mitch0 | I don't use putty |
| 09:15.42 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 09:15.59 | mitch0 | but I bet that "connect" is actually the https tunelling part |
| 09:16.12 | mitch0 | (at least I do have "connect" on my linux box that does just that |
| 09:16.26 | mitch0 | so it's not pure ssh |
| 09:16.31 | cauchy | http://www.microsoft.com/australia/ie8/competition/ |
| 09:16.36 | Arrowmaster | its http i thought |
| 09:16.38 | cauchy | be sure to open with ff/opera/safari |
| 09:16.42 | cauchy | not IE |
| 09:17.32 | mitch0 | cauchy: lame |
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| 09:17.56 | Arrowmaster | http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec9.html#sec9.9 |
| 09:18.39 | mitch0 | arrow: yes? |
| 09:19.00 | Arrowmaster | the 'connect' is an http command to the proxy server |
| 09:19.18 | mitch0 | yes, and it'll make it tunnel |
| 09:19.44 | mitch0 | thus, ssh tunneled over https (how I started this whole discussion :) |
| 09:20.00 | mitch0 | I didn't know putty had this built in, I need to use a "connect" program for that from linux |
| 09:22.01 | mitch0 | arrow: this is the one I'm talkin about (see comments for info): http://www.meadowy.org/~gotoh/ssh/connect.c |
| 09:23.02 | Arrowmaster | lol damnit |
| 09:23.36 | mitch0 | neon: this program seems to suggest that it's quite possible to differentiate ssh from ssl: http://www.rutschle.net/tech/sslh.shtml |
| 09:23.46 | Arrowmaster | i tried to see if it was an appache server and i could use it to my advantage to not have to download the file and just view it in the browser instead |
| 09:24.04 | Elkano | cauchy, the funny thing is they simply check the user agent ^^ |
| 09:24.12 | neon | mitch0, I didn't say it isn't possible, I said your proxy isn't doing it :P |
| 09:24.12 | cauchy | Elkano: i know |
| 09:24.23 | Arrowmaster | so i tried removing the .c from the url and see if apache would find the correct extension, it seems theres a connect in that dir too |
| 09:24.26 | mitch0 | neon: well, it does :) |
| 09:24.32 | cauchy | Elkano: it's amusing, isn't it :) |
| 09:25.57 | Elkano | sure it is ^^ |
| 09:26.56 | Elkano | "We're loosing ground so let's take a fraction of the amount a propper campaign would cost and try to lure people into downloading our stuff to potentially get their dirty hands on it" |
| 09:27.00 | neon | mitch0, No it doesn't, as Elkano says the only way the proxy knows is because your ssh tunnel "client" is telling the proxy it isn't a regular web browser |
| 09:27.44 | mitch0 | neon: well, yeah, what I meant that if I started talking ssh to my proxy, it wouldn't get me far |
| 09:27.50 | Elkano | I did say that? |
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| 09:27.53 | mitch0 | neon: thus I need to talk http to that |
| 09:27.58 | mitch0 | (to the proxy, that is) |
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| 09:28.23 | mitch0 | aaanyway, this discussion is pointless from now on :) |
| 09:29.09 | neon | Agreed |
| 09:29.16 | cauchy | it always been |
| 09:29.32 | mitch0 | no, it started out informative :) |
| 09:29.37 | cauchy | since i just wanted to QQ a bit on my network! |
| 09:29.38 | mitch0 | the the nitpickers came in |
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| 09:29.55 | mitch0 | cauchy: well, it's all your fault then |
| 09:30.17 | cauchy | :( |
| 09:30.27 | cauchy | and i just wanted to push my addon to repo |
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| 09:31.12 | mitch0 | doing addon development at work is probably against your company's policies anyway :P |
| 09:33.11 | haste | lies! |
| 09:33.34 | haste | too bad I can't fire up WoW on this computer |
| 09:33.43 | haste | not like I can drycode GUIs (yet!) |
| 09:33.59 | cauchy | mitch0: shhhhhh |
| 09:34.13 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * 45adbd7 GearGauge.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 09:34.16 | Repo | 45adbd7: In ShowTarget(): Added scan failure message. |
| 09:34.19 | Repo | 83f1daf: Fixed message color when target is of the opposing faction. |
| 09:34.21 | cauchy | i can't fire up wow either |
| 09:34.31 | cauchy | but that's not a prob for me hehe |
| 09:34.51 | haste | I'm at the point were I have to write the GUI |
| 09:35.01 | haste | only thing I need to implement is a sub-table iterator |
| 09:35.10 | haste | but I already have that one pretty much completed |
| 09:35.19 | cauchy | well, to be frank, i just need to implement nice config window |
| 09:35.58 | haste | same, but I need to custom write it |
| 09:36.17 | haste | I could use some parts of AceGUI, but I might as well just implement it all myself |
| 09:36.19 | cauchy | i'm not using aceconfing |
| 09:36.25 | cauchy | from scratch |
| 09:36.31 | haste | I'm not using any libs |
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| 09:59.18 | ramoz | haste: what addon? |
| 10:01.20 | haste | ramoz: oGlow |
| 10:01.41 | ramoz | k |
| 10:04.23 | sb|work | mh, does council voidwalker tanking still work? |
| 10:10.10 | gfy | no, it doesn't |
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| 12:51.10 | harl | http://paste.wowace.com/791/ |
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| 13:01.51 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5719 Ulduar/Ignis.lua: BigWigs: koKR Update |
| 13:01.55 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1017 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 13:01.59 | Repo | - Fixed precision incorrectly applying 15% hit, instead of 3% |
| 13:02.03 | Repo | - Corrected Unholy Blight AP coefficient |
| 13:02.07 | Repo | - Rune tap can't crit |
| 13:14.23 | Belazor | 15% rather than 3%, thats a big diference :p |
| 13:16.54 | Gagorian | yeah for some reason it was 5% per rank instead of 1 :D |
| 13:17.57 | Elkano | Gagorian, is there a display for Wrath/Starfire affected by Eclipse in their tooltips? |
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| 13:21.28 | Fisker | enrages |
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| 13:29.03 | harl | argh |
| 13:29.50 | Gagorian | Elkano: It's displayed when it's on obviously, but not a separate line. If you manually activate it through the options I belive only starfire crit bonus is shown.. since it's a bit of a special case, it looks up the texture before applying the wrath bonus |
| 13:30.33 | Gagorian | I could enable the display of both bonuses in that case if you'd feel that's better |
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| 13:35.53 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1018 Data/Druid.lua: |
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| 13:36.10 | Repo | - Manually selected Eclipse now gives bonuses to both starfire and wrath |
| 13:36.46 | Gagorian | Elkano: Type or macro /drdmg calculation aura player eclipse |
| 13:36.55 | Gagorian | Then you'll see the difference |
| 13:37.21 | Elkano | ok :) |
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| 13:37.40 | Gagorian | (obviously download the latest alpha first) |
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| 14:27.43 | Bruners | broker moneytracking thingie, what was the name |
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| 14:30.37 | aestil | got steelbreaker last |
| 14:30.43 | aestil | which, sadly, is a server first. |
| 14:35.52 | vhaarr | cool, we're trying that tonight, got any hot tips that will save us a wipe or two? |
| 14:37.21 | selckin | swap melee to stealbeaker, when the pref one is on like 4% |
| 14:37.41 | selckin | make everyone stand in melee, keep 3-4 ranged to soak the debuff |
| 14:37.50 | vhaarr | oh really, you can do that? |
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| 14:37.57 | vhaarr | I thought it was cast on melee as well |
| 14:38.14 | selckin | it definitly prefers ranged (i'm not a healer so not sure) |
| 14:38.32 | selckin | always a soaker that dies and ruins it so :) |
| 14:38.38 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 14:38.46 | vhaarr | I figured it will hit for around 16k at the end |
| 14:38.55 | vhaarr | not calculating the debuff from itself |
| 14:39.52 | selckin | felpuppys eat the shield from the ony ou kill first |
| 14:40.10 | vhaarr | it's a paladin so he can dispel himself |
| 14:40.42 | selckin | the self buff if you damage him while shield is active |
| 14:40.47 | selckin | make dps dispell |
| 14:40.51 | selckin | the fusion punch |
| 14:41.02 | vhaarr | shield? |
| 14:41.11 | Stanzilla_ | rune shield |
| 14:41.15 | Stanzilla_ | on molgeim |
| 14:41.22 | selckin | i never remember names |
| 14:41.26 | aestil | selckin said all the things i would said |
| 14:41.35 | aestil | especially the swap melee to steal breaker. |
| 14:41.41 | vhaarr | ah well I'm tanking him and I can shieldbash that |
| 14:41.52 | selckin | we have him down over a million before the first tank gets the debuff |
| 14:42.12 | vhaarr | cool |
| 14:42.40 | selckin | make sure ranged remembers to interrupt when you swap melee early |
| 14:43.07 | vhaarr | ye thanks we've killed them several times on normal and medium mode was just looking for tips regarding steelbreaker |
| 14:43.38 | selckin | cooldowns for fusion punch or die |
| 14:44.27 | selckin | usually get 2 per tank |
| 14:44.47 | selckin | so it all fits |
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| 14:49.06 | selckin | we use 3 tanks and soulstone/battle res the first |
| 14:49.08 | selckin | i'm bored |
| 14:49.20 | Stanzilla_ | make a wowace theme |
| 14:49.21 | Stanzilla_ | :P |
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| 14:52.05 | aestil | i think we use 2 tanks with 1st one to die being soulstoned/brez |
| 14:52.49 | aestil | yeah, 2 tanks, 5 healers, 18 dps. |
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| 14:53.20 | selckin | you kill em in 3? |
| 14:53.22 | aestil | says it took 5 min 41 seconds |
| 14:53.28 | Repo | 10logsaver: 03Sarkoris * r12 / (2 files in 1 directory): added on-raid functionality. |
| 14:53.46 | selckin | we get close to killing in 3 tanks, but almost never make it, using 4 tanks so a dps less i guess |
| 14:54.12 | aestil | yeah, the DK tank died. |
| 14:54.14 | aestil | only death |
| 14:54.21 | aestil | so he got brezed / SS |
| 14:54.28 | selckin | 2 should die |
| 14:54.44 | Repo | 10logsaver: 03Sarkoris 04v1.1 * r13 : working version with on-raid and on-zone logging options. |
| 14:55.12 | aestil | maybe the log is wrong. |
| 14:55.20 | ckknight | waves at the nice people |
| 14:55.53 | Bruners | waves back |
| 14:56.53 | aestil | had a pretty big night last night. cleared hodir hard mode again, in addition to the first Hardmode IC for us. |
| 14:57.13 | aestil | i think sunday we'll just kill mimiron and then work on freya the rest of the night. |
| 14:58.14 | aestil | we'll see how much that i239 loot helps with hardmodes. :) |
| 14:59.25 | aestil | this guild on our sever that raids constantly, just got hardmode xt and hardmode FL |
| 14:59.25 | Stanzilla_ | xt got nerfed, easy as shit now |
| 14:59.25 | aestil | i know. |
| 14:59.25 | aestil | but they killed yogg way the hell back on 5/1/09 |
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| 14:59.40 | aestil | they got those after the nerfs |
| 14:59.50 | aestil | and the hardest achieve they got is thorim/hodir |
| 15:00.04 | aestil | they much raid like... 25 hours a week. |
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| 15:09.14 | selckin | we did 230 wipes on freya hard before killing it |
| 15:09.18 | selckin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.29 | thul | 230...? |
| 15:09.30 | thul | wtf |
| 15:10.09 | selckin | 2 weeks |
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| 15:15.26 | Kaelten | er |
| 15:15.27 | Kaelten | wtf |
| 15:15.40 | Fisker | herrow |
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| 15:17.18 | aestil | 230 wipes, thats a lot of wipes. |
| 15:17.37 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 15:17.56 | Repo | 10amc: 03yeachan * r42 / (11 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 10 lines) |
| 15:17.59 | Repo | zhCN: Orgrimmar done. |
| 15:18.02 | Repo | --typos fixed: |
| 15:18.05 | Repo | line 1084: "Chieftan Earthbind" to "Chieftain Earthbind" |
| 15:18.08 | Repo | line 1115:"Thull" to "Thuul" |
| 15:19.48 | thul | Jethro Thull |
| 15:20.24 | AckisWork | morning Kaelten |
| 15:21.05 | Repo | 10xloot-master: 03mikk 040.8-30100-1-release * r75 : Tagging as 0.8-30100-1-release |
| 15:23.18 | Kaelten | AckisWork: ! |
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| 15:24.11 | Fisker | you've been owned AckisWork |
| 15:24.28 | AckisWork | o? |
| 15:25.26 | AckisWork | Kaelten: where do I go to create components now? |
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| 15:25.52 | Kaelten | AckisWork: ? |
| 15:26.23 | AckisWork | with the new CF layout, how do I create new components for projects/ |
| 15:26.31 | Kaelten | AckisWork: on the project management screen |
| 15:26.55 | Kaelten | a lot of stuff got moved there |
| 15:27.19 | AckisWork | kk wicked |
| 15:28.06 | winkiller | is there an addon nowadays to show bad performing addons? (no, memory usage doesnt count, that's fine, still my wow is horribly sloow) |
| 15:28.38 | AckisWork | disembed install performance fu/etc and enable cpu profiling |
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| 15:42.22 | Xinhuan | winkiller: optionlesshouse |
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| 15:42.35 | Xinhuan | and yes, install all addons disembedde too |
| 15:42.40 | Xinhuan | or your readings will be meaningless |
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| 15:44.21 | Vilkku | sorry if this has been asked a thousand times, but every time I try to download something off wowace.com I get |
| 15:44.21 | Vilkku | Unauthorized |
| 15:44.21 | Vilkku | Download not secure, please try again. |
| 15:44.26 | Fisker | i'm gonna disembed you Xinhuan |
| 15:44.43 | Xinhuan | do you have java or flash installed? |
| 15:44.44 | Mikk | Vilkku: you have some privacy addon installed in your FF, probably |
| 15:44.57 | Mikk | which hides tracks of where you came from |
| 15:44.58 | Vilkku | ah |
| 15:45.47 | Mikk | (most addon sites double check that you actually clicked through from a page in their site. to stop wowmatrix from stealing bandwidth) |
| 15:46.12 | Vilkku | I see. Well it was adblock |
| 15:47.40 | Vilkku | subscriptions RSS feed would be hot stuff :P |
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| 15:47.49 | Mikk | curse updater |
| 15:47.58 | Mikk | or mail subscription |
| 15:48.17 | Vilkku | I'm using mail subscription |
| 15:48.27 | Vilkku | but daily to avoid the spam |
| 15:48.35 | Mikk | nods |
| 15:48.58 | Vilkku | so the end result is that I just click a random link for the mod that's updated and then go to the main page and see if there are any new updates since the mail came |
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| 15:51.22 | Vilkku | also, Prat 3.0 needs some info page |
| 15:52.06 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/responses-to-the-new-layouts/ |
| 15:53.15 | p4aved | can the new wowace.com b widescreen? |
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| 15:56.43 | sztanpet | is there a theme playground where i can play with my theme on wowace? |
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| 16:01.58 | Repo | 10professionbars: 03stolenlegacy * r23 ProfessionBars.lua: |
| 16:02.00 | Repo | Should fix errors when you open a LW/JC/Insc tradeskill link. |
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| 16:03.37 | Kaelten | sztanpet: http://www.wowace.com/themes |
| 16:04.07 | sztanpet | yes i know the link, but i dont want to submit my theme |
| 16:04.13 | Kaelten | ah |
| 16:04.15 | Kaelten | no not yet |
| 16:04.23 | Kaelten | :( |
| 16:04.34 | stolenlegacy | already snatched the first comment on your news, kaelten :D |
| 16:04.49 | Kaelten | lol |
| 16:04.57 | stolenlegacy | me likes the cat |
| 16:05.04 | thul | http://www.flickr.com/photos/fhashemi/sets/72157619758530748/show/ |
| 16:05.40 | Fisker | slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:05.55 | Stanzilla_ | fiskers Fisker |
| 16:06.17 | Fisker | slaps Stanzilla_ around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:06.20 | stolenlegacy | thul: oh...my...god |
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| 16:19.16 | Hjalte | Is something wrong with this MySQL query? "SELECT * FROM brevkasse WHERE Maavises = 'ja' or 'JA' AND Besvaret = 'JA' ORDER BY spoergsmaalsnummer DESC" |
| 16:19.37 | Hjalte | I'm not a great database wizard, but it worked on one host but is giving me trouble at another. |
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| 16:19.56 | sztanpet | or Maavises = 'JA' |
| 16:20.40 | nevcairiel | WHERE Maavises IN ("ja", "JA") imho |
| 16:21.00 | sztanpet | ^ |
| 16:23.52 | vhaarr | Hjalte: actually most sql queries should be case insensitive by default, as far as I remember, so you can just do Maavises = 'ja' and it will match ja,JA,Ja,jA |
| 16:24.04 | vhaarr | then again, I haven't done SQL in years, so maybe I'm rusty |
| 16:24.34 | nevcairiel | i would hurt sql if it was case-insenstive in a text-comparison query |
| 16:24.39 | nevcairiel | i mean keywords, tables/keys .. sure |
| 16:24.42 | stillsickdrahil | yeah... |
| 16:24.43 | nevcairiel | but text in the database? |
| 16:24.44 | nevcairiel | <.< |
| 16:25.14 | stillsickdrahil | if they suddenly had case sensitive keywords, our site would break |
| 16:25.19 | nevcairiel | goes to check |
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| 16:25.38 | stillsickdrahil | if you're talking about things like SELECT vs select |
| 16:25.38 | vhaarr | actually it probably depends on the datatype of the column |
| 16:26.30 | nevcairiel | meh it actually is case insenstive .. good that i don't usually use string-fields as any key whatsoever |
| 16:26.45 | nevcairiel | they are payload :p |
| 16:27.42 | nevcairiel | stupid mysql :) |
| 16:27.59 | vhaarr | actually this is legacy behavior from before the time of mysql I believe |
| 16:28.09 | nevcairiel | stupid mysql for keeping legacy |
| 16:28.12 | vhaarr | :P |
| 16:28.33 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: Thanks, your solution did the job perfectly :) |
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| 16:28.45 | nevcairiel | too bad i don't have access to an oracle database from home,curious how it responds |
| 16:29.26 | aestil | anyone in channel as uncool as me and have a G1 phone instead of an iPhone? |
| 16:29.27 | vhaarr | yeah don't thank me, the information I gave won't help you ever with any sql problems |
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| 16:31.46 | nicoli_s | ckknight aestil |
| 16:32.28 | nevcairiel | tbh i don't have either, but i'm getting a 3GS soon |
| 16:32.35 | nevcairiel | so uncool you =P |
| 16:32.47 | aestil | all i want is an app that senses when I turn the phone on its side [to go widescreen] and I want an app that does the predictive text while using the slide out physical keyboard. |
| 16:32.52 | Fisker | iphone sucks |
| 16:33.00 | aestil | i don't understand why the predictive text only works with the softkeyboard. |
| 16:33.02 | Fisker | any and every incarnation of it does |
| 16:33.02 | aestil | : / |
| 16:33.15 | aestil | I think this new iPhone is going to be a beast. |
| 16:33.24 | nicoli_s | not true fisker, i have a itouch and its great |
| 16:33.32 | aestil | next year we'll have quad core cell phones with dx7 parts. |
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| 16:34.02 | nevcairiel | skynet will build itself on iphones, i tell ya |
| 16:34.27 | Fisker | naw |
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| 16:34.40 | Fisker | Because skynet was build by clever people, the iphone contradicts that |
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| 16:39.48 | aestil | it also pisses me off that the g1 doesn't have multi touch |
| 16:39.50 | aestil | wtf. |
| 16:39.52 | aestil | why not!? |
| 16:40.07 | SqueeG | to mess with you :3 |
| 16:40.28 | SqueeG | aren't these the sort of things you should look into before purchasing? |
| 16:41.27 | aestil | i do not like apple, and more importantly I hate ATT |
| 16:41.38 | aestil | so I have no real recourse except for bitching. |
| 16:41.44 | aestil | in any case, its actually a great phone. |
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| 16:41.52 | SqueeG | lmao |
| 16:41.53 | aestil | the voice search on google maps is o.O |
| 16:42.22 | aestil | and having it integrate with all your gmail contacts/calander is a huge selling point [imo] |
| 16:42.29 | nicoli_s | at&t has been great to me |
| 16:42.47 | aestil | multi touch is like the cut/copy/paste issue on iPhones [until just recently] |
| 16:42.53 | aestil | wtf wouldn't they have it? |
| 16:43.12 | nevcairiel | thats why i waited for the 3gs, its just awesome =P |
| 16:43.45 | SqueeG | the offspring...alkaline trio and...the street dogs |
| 16:43.50 | SqueeG | what kind of line up is that |
| 16:43.58 | SqueeG | afk |
| 16:44.42 | aestil | nevcairiel: it sure does look nice. Basically its not really impresive for current users of the iPhone, but for everyone else, its the phone that finally 'puts it all together' |
| 16:45.24 | n0thingbutDan | anyone know the command for printing a frames name (while hovering over it)? |
| 16:45.41 | aestil | get that devtools addon |
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| 16:47.58 | Repo | 10gridcustomlayouts: 03warbaby * r9 GridCustomLayouts.lua: |
| 16:48.00 | Repo | fixed a bug that custom layouts cannot be load correctly in the next login. |
| 16:49.42 | Repo | 10gridcustomlayouts: 03warbaby 041.2 * r10 : Tagging as 1.2 |
| 16:49.44 | Repo | - NOREPEAT attribute supported |
| 16:49.47 | Repo | - some bug fix |
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| 17:06.47 | Mikk | n0thingbutDan: /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() ... but that only works for mouse-enabled frames, which are in minority |
| 17:06.49 | Mikk | So yeah, get devtools |
| 17:07.33 | n0thingbutDan | ye found that, i only need it for parenting kgpanels to pitbull so its good enough |
| 17:07.41 | n0thingbutDan | thanks anyway |
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| 17:25.59 | NeoTron | hmm some interesting upcoming pally changes |
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| 17:31.51 | aestil | interesting yes. |
| 17:31.55 | aestil | i'm glad i don't play a pally |
| 17:32.06 | aestil | lots of that stuff is just completely changed, not even just tweaks. |
| 17:32.20 | aestil | looks like yet another redesign |
| 17:32.32 | NeoTron | sp hmm |
| 17:32.50 | Mikk | hm? pally changes? ret changes or everything? |
| 17:32.50 | Fisker | ret changes are a joke |
| 17:32.52 | NeoTron | is the colliseum going to give us a random weekly boss or one NEW boss per week I wonder |
| 17:32.55 | NeoTron | wording isn't clear |
| 17:32.56 | Fisker | everything Mikk |
| 17:33.01 | Fisker | Protection is pretty nice |
| 17:33.03 | Mikk | cause i knew they've said they want to make the ret cycle less braindead |
| 17:33.21 | Fisker | if anything it made it more braindead :P |
| 17:33.25 | Mikk | doh |
| 17:33.32 | NeoTron | Mikk: essentiall crusader strike on a 4s cooldown and excorcism with a 1.5s cast but cast time removed by art of war |
| 17:33.55 | NeoTron | Fisker: nah. 1 reactive ability and a shorter cooldown which means a bit more prioritization |
| 17:34.02 | Mikk | well then you cant exo without using your brain |
| 17:34.10 | Mikk | currently you can do max dps with a /castrandom and just faceroll it |
| 17:34.14 | Fisker | i know NeoTron |
| 17:34.24 | Fisker | but the change itself is retarded and not actually significant |
| 17:34.50 | aestil | it lowers burst in pvp quite a bit |
| 17:34.58 | aestil | while still allowing excorsism to be used on players. |
| 17:35.00 | aestil | thats good. |
| 17:35.06 | Fisker | !care(); |
| 17:35.07 | aestil | i'm not sure how this buffs PvE damage |
| 17:35.22 | aestil | isn't pallly dps lawls bad? |
| 17:35.28 | NeoTron | not really |
| 17:35.37 | NeoTron | on some fights they top dps, on some they don't |
| 17:35.38 | aestil | maybe we just have bad pallys |
| 17:35.50 | Fisker | Palas have the worst PvE DPS |
| 17:35.55 | NeoTron | naturally ones with ambient aoe are the top dps ones |
| 17:36.02 | NeoTron | Fisker: you're funny, and you're wrong |
| 17:36.06 | Fisker | Nope |
| 17:36.13 | aestil | shamans have to be worse |
| 17:36.19 | aestil | DK's are still OP |
| 17:36.21 | aestil | hunters need buffs. |
| 17:36.26 | aestil | mages/locks are pretty good |
| 17:36.33 | aestil | kitty druids probably need nerfs. |
| 17:36.37 | aestil | boom kin are probably ok. |
| 17:36.41 | aestil | shaman are a joke. |
| 17:37.19 | aestil | DK's are just stupidly OP in PvE though. for a class thats that good at tanking as well.... sheesh |
| 17:38.19 | NeoTron | you: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/TsyWKy8NdEuqNyS3/sum/damageDone/?s=1651&e=2023 are: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/TsyWKy8NdEuqNyS3/sum/damageDone/?s=4719&e=4900 plain: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/TsyWKy8NdEuqNyS3/sum/damageDone/?s=5186&e=5520 wrong: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/TsyWKy8NdEuqNyS3/sum/damageDone/?s=7969&e=8356 |
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| 17:38.27 | NeoTron | they aren't BEST dps but they are far as hell away from worst dps |
| 17:38.58 | NeoTron | aestil: DK's aren't really op either. some fights they do exceedingly well but it's not op levels |
| 17:39.17 | aestil | they are better dps than the other hybrids |
| 17:39.20 | aestil | consistantly. |
| 17:39.27 | NeoTron | except.. druids? :P |
| 17:39.36 | aestil | i said druids needed to be nerfed? |
| 17:39.39 | NeoTron | and sometimes paladins? |
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| 17:39.53 | NeoTron | and sometimes shamans? |
| 17:39.55 | aestil | no fight where a pally is not good |
| 17:39.59 | aestil | wait |
| 17:40.00 | aestil | no. |
| 17:40.04 | NeoTron | so except druids, paladins and shamans they are consisterntly the best hybrid? |
| 17:40.09 | aestil | show me a fight where a pally > DK |
| 17:40.21 | NeoTron | see links above |
| 17:40.24 | aestil | and I need to see this lawlz meter that has a shaman beeting a DK. |
| 17:41.01 | aestil | i call shenigans |
| 17:41.05 | NeoTron | Shaman: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/TsyWKy8NdEuqNyS3/sum/damageDone/?s=5186&e=5520 http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/TsyWKy8NdEuqNyS3/sum/damageDone/?s=4719&e=4900 http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/TsyWKy8NdEuqNyS3/sum/damageDone/?s=3361&e=3602 |
| 17:41.30 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2121 / (2 files in 2 directories): Update dataminer stuff |
| 17:41.54 | aestil | how is the DK not > than the shaman on Kolgoran? |
| 17:42.03 | Fisker | LOL |
| 17:42.18 | Fisker | XT-002 bugged at 1% and "reset" |
| 17:42.28 | Fisker | So we got a new fight and took him in less than 5 seconds :P |
| 17:43.05 | NeoTron | aestil: one possibility is rng |
| 17:43.48 | aestil | NeoTron: Admittedly, i'm not playing anymore and my guild hasn't killed freya +3 yet, so I think as we go along class strengths/weakness will be more obvious |
| 17:44.03 | aestil | we were on the virge of killing Thorim |
| 17:44.14 | aestil | we lost a rogue [who moved back home to australia] |
| 17:44.26 | aestil | and a DK [who gquit after we gkicked his whiney girlfriend] |
| 17:44.31 | Fisker | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-kdXyPoeAVopZOGBT/details/141/?s=2619&e=2904#tab-auras-cast |
| 17:44.32 | NeoTron | in either case MOST classes are capable of competetive dps |
| 17:44.35 | Fisker | Exposed Heart498.434.4 %# |
| 17:44.37 | Fisker | :DDD |
| 17:44.41 | NeoTron | I'd say shadow priests being the one class that really isn't |
| 17:45.09 | aestil | maybe we just have really bad shamans |
| 17:45.20 | NeoTron | elemental seems behind |
| 17:45.30 | NeoTron | but enhance has the capability to do really good dps |
| 17:45.42 | aestil | do you have a link to hodir hard mode for a shaman dps? |
| 17:45.56 | aestil | no wait, i found a kologarn |
| 17:46.08 | aestil | yeah. looks like its so. |
| 17:46.16 | NeoTron | we never did any hard modes |
| 17:46.18 | aestil | [we had only an elesham as dps for like 2 months. |
| 17:46.22 | NeoTron | because the guild fell apart |
| 17:46.42 | NeoTron | lost a lot of people to RL during a few months and eventually recruiting couldn't keep up |
| 17:46.55 | NeoTron | a large factor being our prime recruiter and 3 other people quitting in the same week |
| 17:47.06 | aestil | are you a pure dps class? |
| 17:47.09 | aestil | and alliance? |
| 17:47.14 | NeoTron | now we're a 10 man guild doing 10 man hard modes (and in our first two weeks we got everything but mimiron and yogg+1) |
| 17:47.16 | aestil | and interested in 3 raids a week. |
| 17:47.28 | NeoTron | heh. I'm alliance DKn and the GM.. :P |
| 17:47.37 | NeoTron | I'm ok with 10 mans atm |
| 17:47.42 | aestil | ok. |
| 17:48.00 | aestil | guild doesn't want more DK's anyways. |
| 17:48.00 | aestil | just need like more rogues/mages basically |
| 17:48.05 | NeoTron | I have a shaman and paladin too but not geared |
| 17:48.28 | NeoTron | but even with 5xt6 (4xt6+swp shoulders) and mixed blue/epic wotlk gear I topped dps in a naxx pug. heh |
| 17:48.42 | NeoTron | against, amongst others, an ulduar 25-geared shadow priest |
| 17:51.56 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2122 ARLDatamine.lua: |
| 17:51.59 | Repo | Added PROFESSIONS table - used in LoadRecipe() and ORDERED_PROFESSIONS. |
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| 18:18.03 | Belazor | ARL must be able to make toast by now, I dont even understand the commit messages anymore XD |
| 18:19.00 | AckisWork | Belazor: we're adding a skynet AI which will take over WOW |
| 18:19.13 | Belazor | XD |
| 18:19.14 | pentium166 | wow lua can't interact with toasters, they're a possible exploit |
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| 18:25.05 | durcyn | oh, that'll solve your itemization problems, blizzard. *rolleyes* "After much quiet contemplation, rogues now possess the ability to learn how to use one-handed axes." |
| 18:26.02 | Torhal | ... |
| 18:26.11 | Stanzilla_ | Character names can now be colorized according to class in the chat frame through an interface option in the Development settings. |
| 18:26.13 | Stanzilla_ | cool! |
| 18:26.26 | Fisker | YES |
| 18:26.29 | Fisker | you can finally fly over wg |
| 18:26.30 | Fisker | OMG |
| 18:26.51 | Bruners | you can? |
| 18:26.54 | Fisker | in 3.2 |
| 18:26.57 | Fisker | also dalaran |
| 18:26.59 | Stanzilla_ | Druids will now be able to see their mana bars when shape-shifted. < about time, ol |
| 18:27.10 | durcyn | Flying over Dalaran and Wintergrasp is now possible so long as players keep a healthy distance above the ground |
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| 18:27.18 | Stanzilla_ | Quest creatures and objects will now show on the player's world map. |
| 18:27.19 | Stanzilla_ | The quest log is now double-paned for more easily viewing quest informatio |
| 18:27.20 | Stanzilla_ | LOLOL |
| 18:27.22 | Bruners | Fisker: so druids can jump into flightform to get away then ? |
| 18:27.32 | Stanzilla_ | ok, how many addons can i delete with 3.2? hrmm |
| 18:27.43 | durcyn | Stanzilla_: i shall call 3.2 the Great Addon Borg Patch of 2009 |
| 18:28.11 | Fisker | Item Comparisons: Holding the shift key while hovering over an item will now display the stat differences with the item currently equipped in the relevant slot. |
| 18:28.13 | Fisker | hurr |
| 18:28.17 | Fisker | no Bruners |
| 18:28.20 | Fisker | they can't fly in WG |
| 18:28.22 | Fisker | they can fly over |
| 18:28.53 | AckisWork | they need a flightrestriced flag for macros |
| 18:29.03 | Stanzilla_ | Vendor prices will now be listed on items whether or not players are at a vendor. |
| 18:29.09 | Stanzilla_ | and another addon |
| 18:29.10 | Stanzilla_ | I lol'd |
| 18:29.50 | Repo | 10postal: 03Xinhuan * r253 Modules/DoNotWant.lua: |
| 18:29.53 | Repo | Minor code optimization. Mainly to force an alpha zip repackage to update translations. |
| 18:29.54 | Torhal | About damn time they got rid of that stupid "OH, NOES! For some unexplained reason, flying simply doesn't work here!" |
| 18:30.00 | nevcairiel | double wide is gone too =P |
| 18:30.21 | dodga | wow, you can turn off/on XP accumulation for gold :D |
| 18:30.22 | Torhal | The whole "Cold Weather Flying" thing is a bit irksome as well, since Sholazar isn't exactly cold. |
| 18:30.26 | aestil | my question, is that techincally, this just means the base UI is bigger now. |
| 18:30.28 | aestil | right? |
| 18:30.41 | durcyn | aestil: depends on how much of it they do in C |
| 18:30.50 | aestil | as opposed to lua? |
| 18:31.05 | Torhal | Stanzilla_: Nice. No more itemprice db addons. |
| 18:31.15 | Torhal | aestil: As opposed to BrainFuck. |
| 18:31.34 | aestil | i mean there are people in the guild who don't run addons because 'omg they make my game run worse and they take up megabytes' |
| 18:31.41 | durcyn | like the class coloring, for example, since addon implementations use filters and hooks |
| 18:31.57 | Fisker | The newest season of Arena gear can only be purchased if you meet the requirements with your 3 or 5 player team rating. Rating requirements from 2 player teams can still be used to purchase the previous season of gear. |
| 18:31.58 | Fisker | hurr |
| 18:32.02 | aestil | so, stuff like this, is actually going to make their UI bigger anyways, yes? |
| 18:32.36 | Fisker | Disabling experience gains will prevent a player from gaining experience through any means available in the game. |
| 18:32.36 | Fisker | Players with experience gains turned off who compete in Battlegrounds will face off only against other players with experience gains turned off. |
| 18:32.37 | Fisker | :o |
| 18:33.06 | aestil | so true twink on twink action!?! |
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| 18:33.54 | SqueeG | wtf is the point of having 2v2 if you can't fucking buy gear? |
| 18:34.31 | Bruners | saving up points if one of your team mates from 3v3 or 5v5 is gone |
| 18:34.43 | Torhal | aestil: I don't see how the item pricing will make the UI bigger. Instead of having a huge list of items with their vendor price, there's now a function that queries the server. |
| 18:34.59 | Torhal | Same with the class colors |
| 18:34.59 | Bruners | which is already there |
| 18:35.13 | Torhal | Bruners: Well, yes, but it's in the tooltip now. |
| 18:35.34 | Bruners | one extra line of code? :P |
| 18:36.04 | aestil | ah. |
| 18:36.10 | aestil | cool. all of this is coming with 3.2? |
| 18:36.24 | Bruners | or even maby less code if they got something like "if vendor then" |
| 18:36.27 | dodga | # Macros and scripts will no longer be able to target totems by name. |
| 18:36.29 | Torhal | Bruners: T'was my point...it's not bloating the default UI, rather the opposite. |
| 18:36.29 | dodga | ahahaha :D |
| 18:37.24 | aestil | hopefully their next MMO will just build off of everything they've learned with this MMO but use a DX10/11 engine and have graphics that are 10 years dated |
| 18:37.43 | dodga | it'll be text-only. :> |
| 18:37.49 | aestil | haha |
| 18:37.55 | Bruners | Auctionator i love you |
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| 18:40.49 | aestil | Its going to suck when Win7 retail comes out and I'll have to flatten this computer again when the RC runs out. : / |
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| 18:44.58 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2123 ARLDatamine.lua: |
| 18:45.00 | Repo | Update enchanting ref table. Interface with Toaster complete. |
| 18:45.16 | aestil | what is toaster? |
| 18:45.33 | Belazor | lmao |
| 18:45.37 | AckisWork | 12:17BelazorARL must be able to make toast by now, I dont even understand the commit messages anymore XD |
| 18:45.45 | AckisWork | aestil: ^ |
| 18:46.12 | aestil | :? |
| 18:46.29 | aestil | i am going to guess its not something that is for me. |
| 18:46.32 | AckisWork | I was making fun of Belazor with the Toaster comment |
| 18:46.40 | aestil | oh. |
| 18:46.44 | aestil | ah. |
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| 18:52.24 | aestil | Fisker: will BG's give XP now? |
| 18:52.24 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r234 YurrCombatLog.lua: - fix error in line 816 |
| 18:52.54 | EthanCentaurai | aestil: yes, but it can be turned off for a 10g fee |
| 18:52.57 | aestil | Fisker: otherwise, whats to stop someone from twinking out, then turning expierence gains back on, and dominating BGs again |
| 18:53.33 | EthanCentaurai | imo adding the option to toggle XP gain is a very stupid idea |
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| 18:54.13 | Bruners | Fisker: agi or haste on cloak? |
| 18:54.34 | aestil | should be fun. |
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| 19:02.54 | Bruners | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:03.13 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2124 AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 19:03.17 | Repo | remove old first aid hack, looks like blizz fixed their stuff and no one told me! |
| 19:03.30 | SqueeG | what? |
| 19:03.35 | SqueeG | you didn't get the memo Ackis? |
| 19:04.51 | Antiarc | http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/get-the-facts/browser-comparison.aspx |
| 19:05.00 | Antiarc | This makes me want to punch someone. |
| 19:05.31 | SqueeG | does it point out that IE loads faster that FF? |
| 19:05.55 | Pneumatus | biased comparisons are boased |
| 19:06.07 | SqueeG | that's a rather funny comparison chart |
| 19:06.08 | Pneumatus | *biased |
| 19:06.08 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Maat * r5720 Ulduar/Algalon.lua: BigWigs: 1st engage big bang warning fix |
| 19:06.30 | SqueeG | they could have at LEAST added a few extra 'checks' tot he other two :p |
| 19:07.19 | SqueeG | I don't know why microsoft thinks that 'ease of use' means 'more complicated' |
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| 19:07.41 | nicoli_s | looks 100% proper to me antiarc |
| 19:08.18 | Antiarc | IE loads faster because the majority of its libraries are loaded and already in memory when Windows boots up. |
| 19:08.29 | Antiarc | Same idea as the OpenOffice quick launch, etc. |
| 19:08.44 | SqueeG | chrome loads twice as fast as FF |
| 19:08.51 | nevcairiel | "Internet Explorer 8 is more compatible with more sites on the Internet than any other browser. " |
| 19:08.55 | SqueeG | regardless of addons |
| 19:08.57 | nevcairiel | because every idiot writes pages for IE <.< |
| 19:09.13 | aestil | CHROME IS WIN |
| 19:09.15 | aestil | oops, caps |
| 19:09.18 | SqueeG | the only pages i've ever come across that aren't compatible with FF |
| 19:09.21 | SqueeG | are MS pages |
| 19:09.33 | SqueeG | Chrome would be win if it had more extensions |
| 19:09.37 | nevcairiel | You should use Vista or Win7 and the caching will make everything load instantly =P |
| 19:09.39 | aestil | they are coming |
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| 19:09.49 | aestil | the newest one in the dev channel just introduced signed extensions |
| 19:09.55 | SqueeG | Fuck vista in the keekeewinker |
| 19:10.00 | aestil | ? |
| 19:10.17 | SqueeG | I'm not buying a new mother board just so I can THEN go buy another gig of ram |
| 19:10.21 | SqueeG | just so vista will run well |
| 19:10.39 | aestil | Vista runs fine with 2 gigs of ram |
| 19:10.42 | aestil | what do you have, 1? |
| 19:10.45 | SqueeG | 2 |
| 19:10.50 | aestil | seriously though SP2 fixed most problems |
| 19:10.54 | aestil | then Server came out. |
| 19:10.59 | aestil | which is like vista 2.0 |
| 19:11.03 | aestil | and its all well and good. |
| 19:11.03 | SqueeG | xD |
| 19:11.08 | SqueeG | eeh |
| 19:11.10 | nevcairiel | Win7 is Vista2.0 |
| 19:11.13 | nevcairiel | ^ |
| 19:11.20 | Bruners | IE 8 is kinda good |
| 19:11.39 | Bruners | but not good enough for me |
| 19:12.14 | aestil | windows server 2008 is an evolution of the same kernal that Vista used |
| 19:12.23 | aestil | and then Win7 evolves from that |
| 19:12.40 | aestil | there is a bigger step between vista and win7 than just a straight line. |
| 19:14.01 | Repo | 10lib-textbook: 03TAP3AH * r7 LibTextbook.lua: added Battle-Bot minipet |
| 19:15.05 | Repo | 10auctionator-recipelist: 03TAP3AH * r8 libs/LibTextbook.lua: LibTextbook updated to r7 |
| 19:15.27 | Bruners | @describe auctionator-recipelist |
| 19:15.28 | Repo | Bruners: http://www.wowace.com/projects/auctionator-recipelist/. Auctionator_RecipeList. Creates an Auctionator's shopping list with all recipes your alts need based on Altoholic data. Although I created this addon to demonstrate the usage of LibTextbook, I'm sure you'll find it useful.... |
| 19:18.36 | Cheads | that browser compare list... doesn't that miss Chrome and it Incognito feature? Shouldn't that qualify in the privacy category? |
| 19:18.46 | Cheads | and FF3.5 has similar |
| 19:19.02 | nevcairiel | its on a MS page, its obviously fair! |
| 19:19.26 | Cheads | hehe, but that incognito isn't something new atleast |
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| 19:24.00 | AckisWork | ping EthanCentaurai |
| 19:24.10 | EthanCentaurai | pong AckisWork |
| 19:24.14 | AckisWork | 13:23Jim-Bimand tell the guy who ticked the "tooltip to wide blah" issue, that he should buy a new widescreen monitor |
| 19:24.17 | AckisWork | EthanCentaurai: ^ |
| 19:24.28 | EthanCentaurai | lol |
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| 19:24.55 | Stanzilla_ | Ominous Clouds in the Yogg-Saron encounter are now more vocal about touching players. < best |
| 19:26.25 | Bruners | is Opera to small to be on that browser list? |
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| 19:27.34 | skyfire | i got a question about pitbull, is there any way to highlight buffs that can be dispelled from enemy players like the default ui does. (glowing border) |
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| 19:29.54 | skyfire | anyone? |
| 19:30.23 | Bruners | should be possible |
| 19:30.39 | Bruners | should be on by default as well iirc? |
| 19:31.22 | skyfire | yes, i can color the border. but i'd like it to be bigger and more noticeable |
| 19:31.37 | skyfire | as it is now, it's hard to see at a glance how many dispellable debuffs a player has total for example |
| 19:32.23 | Bruners | just change it? |
| 19:34.05 | aestil | Antiarc: uh performance is a tie? |
| 19:34.09 | aestil | wtf are they smoking? |
| 19:34.19 | aestil | apparently they don't ever use javascript rich web pages |
| 19:34.37 | Bruners | IE is slow on javascript rich web pages? |
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| 19:35.06 | aestil | in relative performance to chrome? |
| 19:35.07 | aestil | yes. |
| 19:35.09 | Bruners | FF is slow on flashinfested/javascrpt rich web pages |
| 19:35.28 | aestil | i never use IE8 |
| 19:35.41 | Bruners | never use or has never used? |
| 19:35.52 | aestil | FF3.01xxx feels slower to me than chrome, and when i'm forced into using it i feel the difference. |
| 19:35.58 | aestil | never use, have used though. |
| 19:36.16 | SqueeG | FF3 is slower than chrome |
| 19:36.17 | Bruners | only used it on my win7 install |
| 19:36.18 | aestil | the thing i loved about it was jump lists and the d/l progress bar in the new task bar |
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| 19:36.22 | SqueeG | even with a fresh isntall |
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| 19:36.48 | Bruners | to bad chrome sucks on the extension part |
| 19:36.49 | aestil | still, no support for jump lists or the d/l progressy bar that IE8 has in win7 |
| 19:36.56 | aestil | it has adblocker |
| 19:37.14 | aestil | i never got extensions on FF either... so i guess i just dont' feel like i'm missing anything. |
| 19:37.26 | SqueeG | yea the lack of extensions is the only thing preventing me from using chrome solely |
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| 19:38.14 | Bruners | mousegestures, noscript/abf, tree style tabs |
| 19:38.20 | Bruners | is what i need |
| 19:38.28 | nevcairiel | mousegestures are so stupid |
| 19:38.34 | nevcairiel | its for opera-users |
| 19:38.35 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 19:38.38 | Bruners | pfft! |
| 19:38.51 | aestil | what is noscript/abf and what are tree style tabs? |
| 19:38.59 | aestil | like linked tabs? |
| 19:39.01 | nevcairiel | also, i can't live without firebug anymore |
| 19:39.07 | aestil | what is firebug? |
| 19:39.08 | Bruners | click right = new tab, left = close tab, up = home, down = end |
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| 19:39.38 | nevcairiel | firebug is a development plugin |
| 19:39.44 | Bruners | aestil: http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/firefox.jpg |
| 19:39.49 | nevcairiel | for html/css/js |
| 19:40.02 | aestil | oh. |
| 19:40.11 | Repo | 10querier: 03Ackis 07master * v1.72-19-g2dafbb1 Querier.lua: [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
| 19:40.15 | Repo | 2dafbb1: Add debug which prints the item ID out in case of disconnect (will be removed once we're stable) |
| 19:40.20 | Repo | 270813e: Compress new reps. |
| 19:40.20 | aestil | yeah, pretty much everything you guys just described is like... completely not a factor for me :) |
| 19:40.24 | Repo | 8971032: Add wrath reps to auto scan. |
| 19:40.28 | Repo | c950a7e: Add in original wow rep items. |
| 19:40.29 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: the development tools in safari4 are comparable to firebug :D |
| 19:40.33 | aestil | so i just go super fast on my chrome and feels happy. |
| 19:40.37 | nevcairiel | safari is uter fail |
| 19:40.38 | nevcairiel | srsly |
| 19:40.48 | Kaelten | safari4 is very nice |
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| 19:40.58 | aestil | isn't safari and chrome built on the same basic shit? |
| 19:41.06 | nevcairiel | the same renderer, webkit |
| 19:41.11 | nevcairiel | but safari is totally messed up |
| 19:41.18 | Kaelten | aestil: same rendering engine, different but both very fast javascript engines |
| 19:41.21 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: how so |
| 19:41.27 | nevcairiel | its a mac app |
| 19:41.28 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 19:41.30 | Bruners | :)) |
| 19:41.35 | Kaelten | looks like a windows one to me too |
| 19:42.10 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/lifehacker/2009/02/safari4b-topsites.png |
| 19:42.26 | Bruners | aestil: noscript/abf = stopping all unwanted scripts and addblock |
| 19:42.42 | nevcairiel | they even tried to steal the tab-on-top style from chrome, and it looks fail |
| 19:42.56 | Bruners | i like the tab-on-top style |
| 19:42.59 | SqueeG | kaelten :p you took the words out of my mouth in your post to vorvonox |
| 19:43.10 | nevcairiel | Bruners: i like how it looks in chrome |
| 19:43.13 | SqueeG | I was going to ask about specifics xD |
| 19:43.27 | Kaelten | actually they went back to the tab under the bar for safari 4 final, which makes me upset |
| 19:43.31 | Kaelten | I like the tab on top better |
| 19:43.32 | Bruners | but tab-on-top = fail when you have a lot of tabs |
| 19:44.06 | SqueeG | FF handles large numbers of tabs way better than chrome |
| 19:44.12 | nevcairiel | i'm still using firefox anyway, need my firebug .. no extension i ever tried could compete with that |
| 19:44.26 | Kaelten | the developer panel in safari4 is comparable :) |
| 19:44.26 | SqueeG | that and chrome doesn't fite text to buttons sizes very well |
| 19:44.28 | nevcairiel | not chrome, not safari, and god beware, not IE8 =P |
| 19:44.51 | Kaelten | :D |
| 19:45.17 | Bruners | sup wtih "Additional instances cannot be launched, please try again" for 20 mins :( |
| 19:45.23 | nevcairiel | It just needs the Win7 integration like IE8 |
| 19:45.25 | SqueeG | they capped instances |
| 19:45.30 | nevcairiel | wonder if they'll do that "soon" |
| 19:45.48 | Kaelten | heh |
| 19:45.52 | nicoli_s | firebug is wayy better than the safari dev panel |
| 19:45.53 | Kaelten | I need to install win7 at home |
| 19:46.00 | Stanzilla_ | native vista theme is planned for firefox.net @ nevcairiel |
| 19:46.05 | Stanzilla_ | *next |
| 19:46.07 | Stanzilla_ | not net |
| 19:46.08 | Kaelten | nicoli_s: not sure I'd agree with that, they're just different |
| 19:46.17 | Bruners | Stanzilla_: what is native vista theme? |
| 19:46.23 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: great, i'm on win7, fun with a vista theme :P |
| 19:46.36 | Stanzilla_ | ok |
| 19:46.42 | Stanzilla_ | replace "vista" with "aero glass" |
| 19:46.49 | nevcairiel | I don't need a theme |
| 19:46.50 | nicoli_s | well the js tools just seemed a little more thorough for firebug which is mainly what i care about |
| 19:46.53 | nevcairiel | i want the taskbar integration |
| 19:47.08 | Bruners | Stanzilla_: uhm, like transparent firefox ? |
| 19:47.38 | nevcairiel | I should switch to minefield builds and see if there is anythign coming up |
| 19:48.16 | Antiarc | Wow, damn |
| 19:48.25 | Antiarc | They ripped a bunch of popular mods into the base UI in 3.2 |
| 19:48.36 | NeoTron | oh? |
| 19:48.48 | NivFreak | wow, blizzard nerfed 2s arena |
| 19:48.48 | NivFreak | lol |
| 19:49.15 | NeoTron | oh ptr |
| 19:49.33 | Kaelten | ptr is up? |
| 19:49.35 | NivFreak | no current arena gear for 2v2 ratings |
| 19:49.37 | NivFreak | lol |
| 19:49.41 | NivFreak | Kaelten: notes at least |
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| 19:49.46 | Starinnia | ptr soon |
| 19:49.47 | nicoli_s | 3.2 ptr? |
| 19:49.47 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * 9bdab63 GearGauge.lua: [+1 commit] Changed "Added Armor" to "Armor Enchantment". |
| 19:49.49 | Kaelten | link? |
| 19:49.55 | Starinnia | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 19:49.59 | Antiarc | Character name auto-completion for the chat frame, pop-ups, and mail interface can be enabled through an interface option in the Development settings. |
| 19:50.01 | NivFreak | mmo-champion.com? :P |
| 19:50.02 | Antiarc | Character names can now be colorized according to class in the chat frame through an interface option in the Development settings. |
| 19:50.06 | Antiarc | Druids will now be able to see their mana bars when shape-shifted. |
| 19:50.10 | NeoTron | experience in BG's... |
| 19:50.14 | Antiarc | Item Comparisons: Holding the shift key while hovering over an item will now display the stat differences with the item currently equipped in the relevant slot. |
| 19:50.20 | Antiarc | Quest creatures and objects will now show on the player's world map. <--- !!! |
| 19:50.25 | Linuz2009 | hi |
| 19:50.25 | Antiarc | The quest log is now double-paned for more easily viewing quest information. |
| 19:50.29 | Antiarc | Vendor prices will now be listed on items whether or not players are at a vendor. |
| 19:50.35 | nevcairiel | they are really dumbing down the game |
| 19:50.38 | Linuz2009 | does anyone know where's utica ave? |
| 19:50.39 | NeoTron | wow |
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| 19:50.57 | NeoTron | vendor prices are long due |
| 19:51.01 | NeoTron | bye bye vendor price databases |
| 19:51.05 | Antiarc | Killing 2v2 makes me really sad. |
| 19:51.09 | SqueeG | double wide quiest log is long overdue :p |
| 19:51.15 | Starinnia | me too, I want gear from 2s :P |
| 19:51.29 | Antiarc | I dislike 3s and 5s |
| 19:51.36 | Antiarc | It's so hard to get a team together for extended play periods |
| 19:51.44 | Antiarc | I've done almost 800 games this season with my 2s partner |
| 19:51.49 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2125 ARLDatamine.lua: Fix nil error reported by Ethan. |
| 19:51.52 | Antiarc | I've done 140 with my 3s team |
| 19:51.52 | NeoTron | wow |
| 19:51.52 | Starinnia | yeah, my 5s team always dies halfway through a season |
| 19:52.00 | Antiarc | I've done 0 5s because I can't keep a solid team together. |
| 19:52.02 | Antiarc | There's no point in trying. |
| 19:52.02 | NeoTron | they are removing heroism and valor badges in favor of conquest |
| 19:52.05 | SqueeG | i love how they're trying to force people into doing large group arenas |
| 19:52.07 | Antiarc | Nobody plays 5s, nobody wants to play 5s. |
| 19:52.17 | Starinnia | that why they did the change |
| 19:52.18 | Antiarc | So their solution is "grats, 2s is now the pretend bracket" |
| 19:52.20 | Starinnia | they want us in 5s |
| 19:52.43 | Bruners | Antiarc: if you can do 25man raids you can do 5v5 arena |
| 19:52.46 | Antiarc | I know, but the way to get people into 5s isn't to make 5s suck less than the rest |
| 19:52.48 | nevcairiel | i've always disliked 2s, because its mostly not about skill, only your setup and fotm |
| 19:52.52 | Kaelten | um..... |
| 19:52.53 | Antiarc | Bruners: Not in the quantity I like to do. |
| 19:52.54 | Kaelten | "Quest creatures and objects will now show on the player's world map." |
| 19:52.54 | ckknight | is PTR up? |
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| 19:53.05 | nicoli_s | not yet ck |
| 19:53.18 | Antiarc | I've been actively trying to get a 5s team together for the entire season, and we're only just now getting started on Saturday. |
| 19:53.23 | nicoli_s | and yeah kaelten, they turned the "easy questing" switch on |
| 19:53.40 | Antiarc | Meanwhile I've done 800 games on my rogue in 2s, and 400 games on my paladin. |
| 19:53.43 | LinuX2half | hi |
| 19:53.49 | Kaelten | well, the question is is it limited like find ore is ? |
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| 19:53.58 | nevcairiel | it says world map |
| 19:54.03 | nevcairiel | not mini map |
| 19:54.26 | Bruners | sounds like half of my addons are going to be removed |
| 19:54.31 | NivFreak | lol |
| 19:54.33 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2126 RecipeDB/ARL-Jewelcraft.lua: Fix golden necklace of battle flags. |
| 19:54.40 | Bruners | but knowing blizzard changes will suck |
| 19:54.42 | NivFreak | 25% buff to mp5 stats, and blizzard things this will do anything? |
| 19:54.54 | Starinnia | hope I can turn off quest stuff on the map... |
| 19:55.28 | Antiarc | My favorite one is this: Sacred Shield: When a paladin casts Flash of Light on a target with this buff, they also now place a heal over time effect on the target, healing that target for 100% of the Flash of Light amount over 12 seconds. |
| 19:55.38 | Antiarc | My paladin's flash of light crits for 8.4k. |
| 19:55.40 | Antiarc | GG. |
| 19:55.54 | NeoTron | Threat of Thassarian: New 3-point talent. When dual-wielding, your Death Strikes, Obliterates, Plague Strikes, Blood Strikes and Frost Strikes have a 30/60/100% chance to also deal damage with your off-hand weapon. Off-hand strikes are roughly one half the effect of the original strike. |
| 19:55.59 | NeoTron | aha there goes the frost DW talent |
| 19:55.59 | NivFreak | it still doesn't fix the problem of FoL spam being too weak for tank healing |
| 19:56.02 | AckisWork | Antiarc: update chatter to remove the name colouring stuff IMO ;) |
| 19:56.09 | Starinnia | i like righteous fury not costing mana and being an aura |
| 19:56.12 | Antiarc | NivFreak: I'm talking about prot healing in arenas. |
| 19:56.24 | NivFreak | Antiarc: oh it gets worse |
| 19:56.25 | Antiarc | AckisWork: I will when 3.2 drops, if Blizzard's is sufficent replacement. |
| 19:56.32 | NivFreak | Antiarc: look at the new auto-guardian spirit ability |
| 19:56.35 | AckisWork | Antiarc: do it nao, I'm entitled! :D |
| 19:56.52 | AckisWork | NivFreak: new guardian spirit? |
| 19:57.02 | Antiarc | Ardent Defender |
| 19:57.02 | NeoTron | weird change to UB |
| 19:57.07 | Antiarc | Ardent Defender: Redesigned. Currently, any damage taken by the paladin while at 35% health or below is reduced. Instead, any attack that would reduce the paladin to 35% health or below has its damage reduced. In addition, once every 2 minutes an attack that would have killed the paladin will fail to kill, and instead set the paladin's health to 10/20/30% of maximum. |
| 19:57.07 | NeoTron | completely changed that around |
| 19:57.13 | NeoTron | gg unholy deep wounds |
| 19:57.16 | AckisWork | ah I'm a priest and you got me turned on |
| 19:57.21 | Antiarc | So yeah, they just made prot healers the de facto standard for arenas. |
| 19:57.45 | NivFreak | good, my prot pally can carry me again next season |
| 19:57.46 | Antiarc | They gave us a HOT and an awesome Cheat Death |
| 19:57.49 | NivFreak | after he gets me a mount this season |
| 19:57.49 | ckknight | RIP QuestHelper |
| 19:57.53 | ckknight | long live QuestHelper |
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| 19:58.06 | AckisWork | ckknight: ? |
| 19:58.20 | Starinnia | QH won't die in 3.2 |
| 19:58.25 | nicoli_s | i wonder how that spell would work if you have less than <30% health |
| 19:58.27 | Starinnia | Blizzards version will suck |
| 19:58.34 | NeoTron | zomg best change ever: "Banish: Effect will now be canceled if Banish is recast on a banished target." |
| 19:58.36 | ckknight | "Quest creatures and objects will now show on the player's world map." |
| 19:58.39 | ckknight | Starinnia: true. |
| 19:58.46 | ckknight | I may write a competitor, though |
| 19:58.54 | ckknight | it'll be like, KangarooQuest |
| 19:58.56 | ckknight | shit yea |
| 19:59.01 | ckknight | jumping and all that |
| 19:59.04 | ckknight | bounces |
| 19:59.08 | NivFreak | wow, DK tank nerfs |
| 19:59.11 | SqueeG | rofl |
| 19:59.16 | AckisWork | ckknight: you still own me a pig mod |
| 19:59.17 | SqueeG | I'd use kangarooquest :p |
| 19:59.19 | SqueeG | skk |
| 19:59.20 | Antiarc | DK nerfs across the board. Which makes me happy. |
| 19:59.21 | Starinnia | KangarooQuest: it will put your quests in its pouch and hop on your face |
| 19:59.22 | ckknight | true, AckisWork |
| 19:59.24 | aestil | kangaroo is the bag mod that you're going to make one day |
| 19:59.25 | SqueeG | you'd actually need to maintain that, though |
| 19:59.26 | aestil | remember? |
| 19:59.28 | ckknight | lol, Starinnia |
| 19:59.34 | aestil | i called that a long time ago. |
| 19:59.34 | NivFreak | Antiarc: it's ok, prot paladins are our new kings, all bow |
| 19:59.38 | NeoTron | hmm they buffed up empowered imp to 100% crit chance again |
| 19:59.46 | Antiarc | They left rogues relatively untouched, which is interesting. |
| 19:59.47 | aestil | including I get referenced as coming up with the name |
| 19:59.48 | NivFreak | Antiarc: auto-cooldowns that can't be leapfrogged ... |
| 20:00.02 | aestil | did they fix hunters and pets yet? |
| 20:00.23 | aestil | or how we keep getting screwed over on fights like vezax? |
| 20:00.23 | aestil | and hodir |
| 20:00.54 | NivFreak | and kologran? |
| 20:00.54 | NivFreak | :P |
| 20:01.25 | NeoTron | ravasaur mount @ un'goro for the hordies. nerf! |
| 20:02.01 | NeoTron | finally - potions stacking to 20 |
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| 20:02.49 | SqueeG | wow |
| 20:02.54 | SqueeG | that paladin buff is pretty... op |
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| 20:03.03 | Kaelten | man |
| 20:03.10 | Kaelten | this is just fucked up |
| 20:03.15 | SqueeG | ? |
| 20:03.21 | Kaelten | all the addon changes |
| 20:03.26 | SqueeG | wtf |
| 20:03.31 | SqueeG | they removed seal of blood? |
| 20:03.53 | Starinnia | command = pve seal, corruption/vengance is pvp seal |
| 20:03.58 | Starinnia | i don't like it personally |
| 20:04.04 | aestil | actually, are there any fights where hunters have an advantage over everyone else? |
| 20:04.20 | Starinnia | hunter quest in vanilla wow is pretty much all hunters :P |
| 20:04.24 | SqueeG | uuuuuuuuuh |
| 20:04.26 | aestil | i mean on every fight we seem to be equal to, or worse than everyone, and when its worse, its usually substantially so. |
| 20:04.29 | SqueeG | i HATE hunters |
| 20:04.31 | SqueeG | <=== warrior |
| 20:05.00 | NeoTron | Kaelten: fucked up? I find it rather awesome |
| 20:05.40 | SqueeG | i like the default doublewide |
| 20:05.44 | NeoTron | "Ominous Clouds in the Yogg-Saron encounter are now more vocal about touching players." <-- finally making fail for clouds possible? :P |
| 20:05.46 | SqueeG | the class coloring is nice too |
| 20:06.02 | SqueeG | the rest I don't really care about |
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| 20:06.10 | SqueeG | just means smaller databases needed ^^ |
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| 20:09.44 | Kaelten | NeoTron: it's awesome in some ways but not so in others |
| 20:09.50 | Kaelten | er |
| 20:09.51 | Kaelten | wt |
| 20:09.52 | Kaelten | f |
| 20:09.53 | Kaelten | shit |
| 20:09.57 | NivFreak | man, if they really go live with the ardent defender changes... |
| 20:10.00 | AckisWork | fsdadfa |
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| 20:10.04 | AckisWork | hi i'm Kaelten |
| 20:10.05 | AckisWork | adsfdfssdfsdf |
| 20:10.07 | AckisWork | shit |
| 20:10.07 | AckisWork | f |
| 20:10.07 | AckisWork | w |
| 20:10.08 | AckisWork | t |
| 20:10.09 | AckisWork | shit |
| 20:10.11 | AckisWork | ahh |
| 20:10.13 | AckisWork | shit |
| 20:11.02 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r2127 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:11.05 | Repo | Update some flags, remove one of the vendor linkages for a recipe which is trainer only now. |
| 20:11.25 | aestil | Lock and Load: Now has a 22 second cooldown. |
| 20:11.35 | aestil | does that mean it will have like 2.2 PPM? |
| 20:12.12 | NivFreak | wtf |
| 20:12.13 | NivFreak | rogues with axes |
| 20:12.47 | Kaelten | rouges get axes? |
| 20:12.50 | NivFreak | yes |
| 20:12.55 | NivFreak | After much quiet contemplation, rogues now possess the ability to learn how to use one-handed axes. |
| 20:12.58 | Kaelten | did they move epic mounts down to 40? |
| 20:12.59 | SqueeG | The ravasaur trainer Mor'vek has returned to Un'Goro and will offer to help Horde players raise and train a Venomhide Ravasaur as a mount... if they can survive the creature's deadly poison. |
| 20:13.01 | SqueeG | ooooooooooooh |
| 20:13.03 | NivFreak | Kaelten: yes |
| 20:13.26 | Kaelten | did they retool the quests for paladin and warlock then? |
| 20:13.37 | sacarasc | Unlikely. |
| 20:13.46 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 20:13.47 | NeoTron | quests? no |
| 20:13.50 | Kaelten | "Charger: Can now be learned at level 40." |
| 20:13.51 | NeoTron | the mounts are vendor trainable |
| 20:13.56 | Kaelten | it looks like it might be vendored |
| 20:13.59 | Kaelten | jezz |
| 20:14.00 | NeoTron | they have been since WotLK |
| 20:14.10 | NeoTron | rather it's from the paladin/warlock trainers |
| 20:15.25 | NeoTron | my favorite is still flying moaunt at 150% at level 60 |
| 20:15.30 | NeoTron | I might take time to level my shaman now |
| 20:15.32 | NeoTron | hordie shaman |
| 20:15.46 | kenlyric | stupid netflix, give me a "tv shows on blu ray" filter |
| 20:15.53 | NeoTron | of course you're still stuck on the ground in northrend... /me wants <cold weather flying> now available at level 70 |
| 20:15.57 | NivFreak | Kaelten: the quests are still there though |
| 20:16.02 | aestil | command is a PvE seal? I owould the the DoT applied by the vengeance seal is bad for PvP |
| 20:16.16 | NivFreak | vengance is the pve seal |
| 20:16.19 | NivFreak | command is pvp |
| 20:16.36 | NeoTron | omg you can fly over wintergrasp! |
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| 20:18.30 | Starinnia | NeoTron: GC made it sound reverse of that in a post, maybe he just phrased it poorly |
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| 20:19.20 | NeoTron | what do you mean? |
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| 20:19.40 | NeoTron | you meant' NivFreak there, not me :P |
| 20:19.47 | Starinnia | whoops |
| 20:19.49 | Starinnia | sorry |
| 20:19.53 | Starinnia | new IRC client :P |
| 20:19.56 | Starinnia | font sucks atm |
| 20:21.29 | NeoTron | if this change to seals had been made back in naxx, I'd probably be immortal by now |
| 20:21.34 | NeoTron | damn paladin killing himself on glyth |
| 20:21.49 | NivFreak | oh hot |
| 20:21.50 | NivFreak | a way to cancel banish |
| 20:22.00 | Starinnia | I just switch to command when the decimate timer finishes |
| 20:22.07 | Starinnia | no dying for me |
| 20:22.18 | NeoTron | you're probably not a retarded paladin |
| 20:22.31 | NivFreak | lol |
| 20:22.46 | Starinnia | my guild's shadow priests would kill themselves there |
| 20:23.01 | Starinnia | recoil from SWD |
| 20:23.09 | Fisker | NeoTron that actually is pretty retarded |
| 20:23.28 | Fisker | and you can easily survive the recoil on blood now :P |
| 20:23.33 | NeoTron | Fisker: I am fully aware of that |
| 20:23.39 | Starinnia | now, sure |
| 20:23.40 | Kaelten | wow the shammy totem bar sounds broken |
| 20:23.45 | Starinnia | it used to be much bigger |
| 20:23.53 | Starinnia | and he prolly judged right after the decimate |
| 20:24.04 | Fisker | i did it once pre-3.1 |
| 20:24.15 | Fisker | But it was kinda akward |
| 20:24.18 | Starinnia | Kaelten: why would it not be broken? |
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| 20:24.27 | Fisker | Decimate hit like 3 seconds later but blood recoil didn't kick in until then |
| 20:24.37 | Starinnia | lag recoil ftw |
| 20:24.41 | Belazor | NivFreak: You sure it's command for pvp and vengeance for pve? Because one would think that the DoT helps against stealthers and such |
| 20:24.48 | Kaelten | cast 4 spells at once, heh |
| 20:24.51 | Fisker | It really wasn't lag |
| 20:24.55 | Fisker | atleast not clientside lag |
| 20:25.05 | NivFreak | Belazor: 90% |
| 20:25.27 | Belazor | because the way it's put out makes me believe its the other way round |
| 20:26.02 | Starinnia | "We are buffing Seal of Vengeance / Corruption and redesigning Seal of Command with the expectation that these are now the seals of choice for PvP and PvE." |
| 20:26.02 | Belazor | "We are buffing Seal of Vengeance / Corruption and redesigning Seal of Command with the expectation that these are now the seals of choice for PvP and PvE." = "SoV and SoC are PvP and PvE respectively" is how I read it |
| 20:26.15 | NeoTron | he was just stupid because he used that seal on a fight where you take a lot of dammage at times.. |
| 20:26.23 | NeoTron | and that he judged it when the near the cooldown |
| 20:26.34 | NeoTron | I had no issues doing that fight on my paladin with a seal that does damage. |
| 20:26.50 | NivFreak | Belazor: I think it was poorly worded |
| 20:26.56 | Belazor | possibly |
| 20:27.08 | Starinnia | NeoTron: good pallys won't kill themselves there, but most Ret pallys I've seen aren't that good |
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| 20:27.20 | NeoTron | Starinnia: again, I am fully aware of that |
| 20:27.22 | NeoTron | this paladin is not good |
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| 20:27.40 | Belazor | But by the sounds of it, it's going to be pretty much equal except SoV requires waiting 5 attacks before the same effect occurs |
| 20:27.50 | NeoTron | so it seems like, btw, the frost DW talent doesn't rely on the speed / damage of the offhand |
| 20:28.00 | NivFreak | The ravasaur trainer Mor'vek has returned to Un'Goro and will offer to help Horde players raise and train a Venomhide Ravasaur as a mount... if they can survive the creature's deadly poison. |
| 20:28.03 | NeoTron | which means slow/fast is the way to go for sure |
| 20:28.04 | NivFreak | lol seriously? |
| 20:28.31 | Starinnia | but my alliance toon wants a Ravasaur |
| 20:28.36 | NeoTron | wonder if it's like the alliance saber grind |
| 20:28.37 | Starinnia | damn you Blizzard! |
| 20:28.48 | NeoTron | or if it's more interesting.. |
| 20:28.54 | NivFreak | NeoTron: this was the horde version of that |
| 20:28.58 | NivFreak | they never finished it |
| 20:29.00 | NeoTron | I know |
| 20:29.10 | NivFreak | I'm sure it will be as bad as the alliance one is now |
| 20:29.13 | NeoTron | but I wonder if it's the same kind of mindless grind or if it's actually a more ineresting quest chain |
| 20:29.22 | Starinnia | I'd go with mindless grind |
| 20:29.37 | NivFreak | ^- |
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| 20:32.32 | NeoTron | so |
| 20:32.48 | NeoTron | now hunters can use 3 traps at once.. will they get a trap bar like shamans? :P |
| 20:33.06 | SqueeG | god DAMMIT |
| 20:33.07 | SqueeG | Mote Extractor now has innate tracking for gas clouds while it is in your inventory. Tracking of gas clouds has been removed from goggles. |
| 20:33.09 | Random | trust us, we're from the internet |
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| 20:33.37 | Kemayo | SqueeG: I like that. |
| 20:34.08 | SqueeG | I don't see the need to remove the tracking from goggles D=< |
| 20:34.29 | NeoTron | SqueeG: it's not needed since the mote extractor has it/ |
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| 20:34.37 | SqueeG | eh |
| 20:34.40 | NeoTron | why do you want to track it if you can't pick it up? |
| 20:34.55 | SqueeG | true i suppose |
| 20:35.19 | NivFreak | god, I'm going to need 20+ epic gems |
| 20:35.26 | NivFreak | I better go earn some gold |
| 20:35.27 | SqueeG | why? |
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| 20:37.17 | Starinnia | hmm, rogues with axes... not sure if I like it or not |
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| 20:37.36 | SqueeG | i dont' see why they couldn't before, anyway |
| 20:37.46 | SqueeG | i've used 1h axes on rogues in DnD plenty of times |
| 20:37.53 | SqueeG | most double as throwing weapons :p |
| 20:42.30 | Daemona | are there any good loot tracking mods out there? preferably ones where you can add items manually too |
| 20:42.47 | NeoTron | for what purpose? |
| 20:43.05 | SqueeG | wowhead.com |
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| 20:43.10 | Daemona | just tracking who got what loot, just to prevent stuff like people getting a bazillion items per id |
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| 20:43.29 | NeoTron | I suppose MagicDKP could do it |
| 20:43.40 | NivFreak | so does anyone else have strange stutter performance problems in ulduar-25 |
| 20:43.41 | NeoTron | but it would group by boss which might not be what you want |
| 20:43.42 | Daemona | naah i dont need/want a blown up dkp mod ;) |
| 20:43.55 | NeoTron | it has a track-only mode |
| 20:44.03 | NeoTron | that just adds looted items to the database, no questions asked |
| 20:44.07 | Daemona | k, i'll have a look then. |
| 20:44.19 | NeoTron | but it might lack the overview you'd want |
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| 21:10.31 | NeoTron | so the immediate quick and dirty hack shows that DW frost will be clear ahead of 2h frost.. like it should be |
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| 21:34.16 | Repo | Fix issue for damage string causing the mage flag to be set. |
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| 21:40.43 | AckisWork | Kemayo: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/librarespawns/ silverdragon can use that? |
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| 21:44.05 | joequincy | I'm trying to use AceComm-3.0, and apparently missing something. Anyone around familiar with its usage? |
| 21:52.21 | ckknight | there's a bunch of people around that use it |
| 21:52.25 | ckknight | ~asktoask |
| 21:52.25 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 21:56.07 | joequincy | Frankly, I'm an utter newb when it comes to using libs. I'm trying to send a message between users of the addon within a party/raid/bg. I am getting an error from ChatThrottleLib stating that... |
| 21:56.23 | ckknight | http://paste.wowace.com/ what you already have |
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| 22:00.06 | joequincy | http://paste.wowace.com/796/ (looking over it again, it may be tied to the sequence of events fired when entering a group, but I have no clue how to fix it :/ ) |
| 22:00.09 | gfy | Zarnivoop: I've been having this bug with skada since weeks and I thought it was something wrong on my side but I may as well ask - when I click on someone's damage skills list sometimes the second and third most damaging lines/skilsl are 'hidden' |
| 22:01.47 | Zarnivoop | gfy: got a screenshot? |
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| 22:02.05 | Cyrez | Funkeh`: Ping! |
| 22:02.55 | gfy | Zarnivoop: yes |
| 22:04.30 | gfy | Zarnivoop: http://pici.se/426631/?size=fullsize |
| 22:05.36 | gfy | death strike and heart strike should be there |
| 22:05.55 | Zarnivoop | and you have it set to show more than 5 lines? |
| 22:06.38 | gfy | yes, if I scroll down I get more abilities |
| 22:07.39 | gfy | Wait, Max Bars is set to 5 but if I mousehover skada's frame and wheelscroll it down I get more lines |
| 22:07.53 | gfy | it's just the 2nd and 3rd that are missing (not only on my damage) |
| 22:09.05 | vhaarr | joequincy: what exactly is the problem with that piece of code? despite the fact that it's all needlessly complicated |
| 22:09.58 | vhaarr | joequincy: you can't send a comm message to "SAY" |
| 22:10.00 | Zarnivoop | gfy: if you wheelscroll down you get more abilities, but not the two missing ones, the ones that are supposed to be line 2 and 3? |
| 22:10.58 | gfy | Zarnivoop: no, I don't, I get about ten more lines but those two |
| 22:11.18 | joequincy | vhaarr: Yeah, I added (at line 99) |
| 22:11.20 | joequincy | if (group) then |
| 22:11.21 | joequincy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.23 | joequincy | end |
| 22:12.10 | Zarnivoop | gfy: do you get them if you have it set to show 15 bars? |
| 22:12.22 | vhaarr | joequincy: I don't know what you want to do here but your code is awful, pretty much. Just listen to a COMBAT_LOG_EVENT SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS with 26994 spellId and make a yell with it, and be done |
| 22:12.51 | gfy | Zarnivoop: I'll try next time I notice them missing |
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| 22:13.29 | vhaarr | joequincy: and unless you use the ace3 framework for the rest of your addon, there's no reason to use it for comms when you don't serialize stuff |
| 22:13.40 | Kemayo | Oooh, I like "Disabling experience gains will prevent a player from gaining experience through any means available in the game." |
| 22:13.43 | vhaarr | you should just use SendAddonMessage, if you insist on following your current path |
| 22:13.51 | vhaarr | (which I'm guessing you will, no matter what I say) |
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| 22:16.07 | joequincy | vhaarr: Your suggestion doesn't cover my needs, or I would have done that (about the yell... I will look at SendAddonMessage, this is my only attempt so far at an addon that communicates with other users) |
| 22:16.34 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2131 ARLDatamine.lua: |
| 22:16.37 | Repo | In addon:PrintScanResults(): Added check for scan_data.is_item. |
| 22:17.56 | joequincy | vhaarr: I need it to only work in certain group types (as set by user), and I need it to be able to choose 1 player to make the calls if multiple players have the addon running, because the spam would be insane otherwise. |
| 22:19.15 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r74 license.txt: poke to repackage with updated deDE |
| 22:19.25 | vhaarr | joequincy: my BootyCall addon does that |
| 22:22.16 | joequincy | vhaarr: I'll look at it, but as you have noticed from my code, I'm not exactly pro at this. I'm not sure if I'll be able to glean what I need to know off it... or be able to apply it to my own addon even if I do. I'm still learning here. |
| 22:22.52 | vhaarr | it's like 100 lines of code, not much to scan through |
| 22:24.34 | vhaarr | and you don't need to register for all those events for checking the group type |
| 22:24.39 | vhaarr | ~api IsInInstance |
| 22:24.50 | vhaarr | fucking ~ commands |
| 22:25.00 | vhaarr | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsInInstance |
| 22:25.31 | vhaarr | and if you want to know what kind of group you're in when that says "none", you use GetNumRaidMembers() and GetNumPartyMembers(), for example |
| 22:26.15 | vhaarr | also note that messages sent to "RAID" with SendAddonMessage if you're in a 5man group will be sent to "PARTY" instead |
| 22:26.24 | vhaarr | you only need to worry about "BATTLEGROUND" and "RAID", pretty much |
| 22:29.31 | joequincy | ok |
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| 22:32.40 | Kaelten | hrm I like my new theme |
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| 22:36.08 | Stanzilla_ | mine is better :P |
| 22:36.27 | ulic | Kaelten: how come I can choose use for your new theme, I only see the view css link. |
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| 22:37.29 | Cyrez | "Vendor prices will now be listed on items whether or not players are at a vendor." < O_O |
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| 22:39.09 | Hirsute | Makes an addon I work on shrinkable significantly. |
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| 22:46.06 | Funkeh` | Cyrez, what |
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| 22:51.47 | Kaelten | ulic: http://www.curseforge.com/themes/kaeltens-subdued/ |
| 22:52.00 | Cyrez | Ooo, right. pardon. |
| 22:52.27 | aestil | i think Rogers material costs more than it needs to because I don't think there is much competition for that product, so I think its artificially high price. |
| 22:52.29 | Kaelten | ulic: you should be able to see the 'Use' link unless you're already on it |
| 22:52.39 | aestil | is that like paranoia, or is that kind of stuff possible? |
| 22:52.58 | Cyrez | I kept getting a phishing spam message that slipped through BadBoy. Should I post it or PM it or what works? |
| 22:54.18 | Funkeh` | irc pm me it |
| 22:54.24 | Funkeh` | and in future, dont wait for me to reply |
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| 22:55.27 | Cyrez | Okays. Sorry. ._. |
| 23:00.12 | Cyrez | I'll let you know if I find more. ^^ |
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| 23:03.35 | VonhintenHOME` | Hmm, what happened to Pitbull. Just updated last night, and now I'm missing health text on all my frames |
| 23:03.55 | ckknight | Shefki? |
| 23:03.57 | ckknight | ^-- |
| 23:05.02 | Stanzilla_ | Shefki happened! |
| 23:05.09 | VonhintenHOME` | actually, health text and bar percentage |
| 23:05.14 | VonhintenHOME` | always 100% |
| 23:05.58 | VonhintenHOME` | oh, not true, showing deficits |
| 23:09.06 | ulic | yea the change to luatext from dogtags was a bit of a suprise, but something you have to deal with when running alpha software :) |
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| 23:12.12 | VonhintenHOME` | So, the text engine was hacked out and replaced, is that what I'm seeing? |
| 23:13.21 | cauchy | luatext is acctually a bit better, at least for me |
| 23:13.25 | cauchy | more clear |
| 23:13.32 | thul | anyone got a 80 on turalyon? :-P |
| 23:15.36 | Stanzilla_ | VonhintenHOME`: no, both are included, just the default changed |
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| 23:20.36 | VonhintenHOME` | I get the picture now... not sure everyone else will |
| 23:20.54 | VonhintenHOME` | Health: Absolute and percent is still showing short values, fyi |
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| 23:24.05 | End | dogtags is still there |
| 23:24.14 | End | it's just disabled by default now |
| 23:24.32 | joequincy | Is there a way to determine the target of a resurrection spell? (From someone who is not the caster) |
| 23:24.34 | VonhintenHOME` | I'll stick with lua text |
| 23:24.44 | NivFreak | so dogtags is deprecated? |
| 23:24.50 | End | I don't know |
| 23:24.52 | NivFreak | @project luatext |
| 23:24.54 | Repo | NivFreak: No project found that matches 'luatext' |
| 23:24.58 | NivFreak | @project lua-text |
| 23:25.00 | Repo | NivFreak: No project found that matches 'lua-text' |
| 23:25.07 | End | luatext is a part of pitbull |
| 23:25.27 | NivFreak | ah, I thought perhaps it was a standalone lib like dogtags |
| 23:25.32 | VonhintenHOME` | the idea is better, assuming the overhead from going to string to executed code is less than processing a language |
| 23:25.38 | drweird | joeq: You want to be able to see if someone else is rezzing someone? most unit frames do this, im guessing by watching the combat log for 'blah starting casting blah on blah' |
| 23:25.53 | VonhintenHOME` | (and unfortunately, non-developers can't easily customize) |
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| 23:26.37 | drweird | Vuhdo and other usually flag visually that someone is already being rezzed (for vuhdo, it marks them green if rez is being cast on them. if the player has released, i believe it still says target unknown |
| 23:26.51 | NivFreak | boo vuhdo |
| 23:26.52 | NivFreak | bad bear |
| 23:27.02 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:27.03 | joequincy | drweird: problem is, the combat log doesn't say that. It says "caster begins casting spell." |
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| 23:27.11 | joequincy | no info about the target |
| 23:27.19 | NivFreak | ora2 has a rez monitor that does it |
| 23:27.24 | NivFreak | you can check the code |
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| 23:27.52 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r307 / (2 files in 1 directory): Improved mount phishing protection |
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| 23:33.31 | drweird | joeq: In Vuhdo they are checking events for res spells, and if one is detected, checking the casters target |
| 23:33.34 | drweird | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.37 | drweird | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.40 | drweird | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.42 | drweird | looks easy enough |
| 23:34.12 | drweird | they tie into the same section to show it on the gui that someone else is casting a rez |
| 23:34.44 | drweird | nivfreak: yes yes i know.. Vuhdo works well for me, and its pretty.. and as you know, i like looking at other pretty things to offset what i have to see when i look in the mirror /wrists |
| 23:35.45 | NivFreak | you should screenshot it for me |
| 23:35.49 | NivFreak | mhal's is ugly as sin |
| 23:36.03 | NivFreak | it reminds me of the parody healer UIs from classic |
| 23:36.16 | NivFreak | where the entire screen is raid boxes, and they are looking at the ground |
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| 23:38.59 | joequincy | NivFreak, drweird: Problem is, I'm focusing on Druid Rebirths, and those are very often cast via an addon such as Grid or Healbot, and the caster does not necessarily have the recipient set as their target. |
| 23:39.38 | NivFreak | joequincy: right, look at ora2's rez monitor |
| 23:40.37 | NivFreak | you get a SPELL_CAST_START event |
| 23:40.40 | NivFreak | with a target |
| 23:40.42 | NivFreak | in the combatlog |
| 23:40.53 | joequincy | NivFreak: a target of "nil" |
| 23:40.55 | NivFreak | and I think it finishes with SPELL_RESURRECT? |
| 23:41.25 | NivFreak | anyway, look at the ora2 code :P |
| 23:41.27 | NivFreak | it does it |
| 23:47.23 | NeoTron | NivFreak: "parody"? kidding right? |
| 23:48.32 | joequincy | NivFreak: I'm either experiencing a bug or missing something entirely, but whenever SPELL_CAST_START is fired for me, I get a target of "nil". In Ora2's code, if the target is unknown, it checks the game tooltip (I assume for users who are themselves casting on the corpse of a player who has released). |
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| 23:49.19 | drweird | it doesnt send out a message via the comm channel? |
| 23:49.33 | drweird | (our entire raid runs ora, and i believe rez monitor wont tell us if someone is rezzing that ISNT running ora2) |
| 23:50.32 | NivFreak | you just have to ask vhaarr |
| 23:50.35 | NivFreak | ;) |
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| 23:51.32 | joequincy | Yeah, which is why I'm trying to find a way to check the target of a rez cast by a third party /without/ relying on everyone having it installed. |
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| 23:53.02 | drweird | ah.. that'll be roughish. I may be wrong, and if i am, someone will harass me for it.. but I believe sending out a message is the only option for people rezzing via mouse over, etc.. if the target isnt included in the event log |
| 23:53.02 | NeoTron | NivFreak: this is no parody! This is state of the art man - http://eongames.com/wow/screens/myui.jpg |
| 23:53.24 | NivFreak | but see, you can see the boss |
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| 23:54.10 | drweird | catching battle rezzes is difficult as it is, because of the quick cast time, add in 50ms of latency for the caster, the brain lag of what you're seeing, the person looking at it, the click lag.. and pressure to rez fast. We're plagued by multiple battle rezzes being burned on people. |
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| 23:54.28 | drweird | usually easier to dictate on vent which druid to brez, and watch your raid wide cooldown timers for rezzing |
| 23:56.40 | joequincy | yeah, problem is when people get jumpy and suddenly there's 4 blown Rebirths appearing at once on DBM_SpellTimers >.< |
| 23:56.57 | joequincy | and only one dude pops up |
| 23:57.50 | NivFreak | I wish blizzard would fix those sorts of ordering issues |
| 23:58.06 | joequincy | Ah well. Either Blizz will make the target available in the event at some point or not. It looks like it's just not possible from a single client at this point :/ |
| 23:58.51 | NeoTron | man those were the days |
| 23:59.08 | NeoTron | that emergency monitor had clickable bars combined with a smart heal that used the right heal for the damaged amount |
| 23:59.15 | drweird | yeah |
| 23:59.39 | drweird | all of my fellow priests were sad when e-monitor went away.. the days of looking like we had skill were gone |
