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00:00.40Gnarfozlol
00:00.40Gnarfozhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/OJ0axFEa84T1QHLG/spell/55159/
00:00.48Gnarfozfirestone attack :D
00:00.50NivFreakit is silly that you can't move wow accounts between battle.net accounts though
00:00.53NivFreaksince you can move toons
00:02.44Axodiousbnet isn't suppose to be a "feature" account like a wow account
00:02.48Axodiousit's just for security purposes
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00:03.01NivFreaknot at all?
00:03.01NivFreak:P
00:03.05Axodiousnope
00:03.13NivFreakI'm disagreeing with you
00:03.14Axodiousthink of it like a steam account
00:03.17Axodious;o
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00:10.48NeoTronthe biggest wtf in WoW with bnet accounts
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00:11.15NeoTronis that you have to log all the way out to change account... it'd be much smarter if the account selection didn't require reauthorizing
00:11.37NivFreakyea
00:11.40NivFreakthat's been driving me nuts actually
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00:12.05NivFreakI took the authenticator off my 2nd bnet account over that
00:12.52NeoTronit's not WORSE than before
00:13.01NeoTronbut it's not better when it could be
00:13.55NivFreakyep
00:15.45NivFreak@project autobar
00:15.58RepoNivFreak: http://war.curseforge.com/projects/autobar/. Autobar. Game: WAR. Felyza (Manager/Author). Updated: 214 days ago. Tickets: 5/6
00:16.21NivFreakfelyza has a lot of rage over disembedding eh
00:16.36NivFreakhttp://code.google.com/p/autobar/wiki/DisemBeddingIsBadMKay
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00:22.01TorhalNivFreak: That's actually Toadkiller's page.
00:22.25NivFreakah, ok ;)
00:22.33NivFreakthen he really hates it :)
00:22.38TorhalHeh
00:22.53NivFreakvhaarr: is it my fault that ora2 always resets ML to me on reloadui?
00:22.54TorhalKinda confusing, having two Autobars, even though they're for different games
00:23.04NivFreakagreed
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00:27.19NivFreakvhaarr: as raider leader of course
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00:33.39Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r66 Track-o-Matique.lua:
00:33.42Repo* Fix for ticket #15. I thought I'd already included this, but apparently I
00:33.45Repohadn't.
00:34.08Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 043.1 * r67 : Tagging as 3.1
00:34.34Repo10healers-have-to-die: 03Archarodim 040.4 * 11a93f9 /: [new tag] tagging as 0.4
00:38.07GnarfozArcharodim: is that another Vezax mod?
00:40.31NeoTronNivFreak: it does it on load
00:40.56NeoTronlast I checked oRA2 had a master looter (player) that is set to the user
00:40.56NivFreakNeoTron: I'm aware, but I think it should respect an existing master looter ;)
00:41.02NeoTronbut then stored and not changeable from the config
00:41.13NivFreakI was trying to ask if it was a configuration issue
00:41.21NeoTronso it's a saved config entry that can't be change
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00:42.05NivFreakora2 always feels very neglected to me
00:42.44NeoTronyeah
00:43.02NeoTronif only we had someone working on a new Ace3'd version. could call it oRA3
00:43.03NivFreakI mean mostly it works fine
00:43.07NivFreakhaha
00:43.10NivFreakisn't that dead?
00:43.15NivFreak@project ora3
00:43.16RepoNivFreak: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/ora3/. oRA3. Game: WoW. Ammo (Manager/Author), Rabbit (Author). Updated: 4 days ago
00:43.53NivFreakI guess not
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00:44.20yarootit's not done yet
00:44.25NivFreakI figured
00:44.31NivFreakI just assumed it had died
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00:45.30NivFreakwell hopefully that gets finished some day :)
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00:47.08NivFreak[Ammo]: how is ora3 coming along?
00:50.22NivFreakit looks like ora3 would actually give me everything I want from commonauras should it work :)
00:51.02yarootdbm has a similar mod too...
00:51.20NivFreakdoes it now?
00:51.34NivFreakI'd really like this stuff tracked outside my boss mod
00:51.38yarootyes, DBM-SpellTimers
00:52.11NivFreakI'll give that one a shot too
00:52.12NivFreakthanks
00:52.18NeoTronI use oRA2 for MT frames
00:52.26NeoTronand well MT's in general
00:55.07Repo10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 043.2 * r68 :
00:55.10RepoThe packager didn't pick up 3.1, and I can't seem to delete that tag/branch to redo it, so bumping to 3.2.
00:55.37NivFreakI use it for setting/transmitting MTs (I use pitbull3 for the actual frames), auto-invite, and sometimes dura checks
00:55.45NivFreakplus tracking some CDs
00:55.52NivFreakbut that's pretty limited
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01:03.30yarootbefore DBM-spelltimers comes with DBM4, I use RaidCooldowns, but it's dead now
01:04.13NivFreakraidcooldowns is dead?
01:04.47NivFreakthere was an update a month ago
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01:05.50yarootsorry, I just search it on wowinterface
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01:06.10NivFreakI was planning to give raidcooldowns a try
01:06.55NivFreakora3 would be a better place for me personally, assuming it works well enough for me to force it on my raid group
01:07.18vhaarrNivFreak: ora2 sets the loot method, yes, and so does ora3
01:07.48vhaarrobviously there's settings for which loot method to use
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01:08.07vhaarrora2 is not neglected, what's missing or wrong with it?
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01:08.30Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r108 / (5 files in 2 directories):
01:08.33RepoUtopia_UpTime: Mobs of same name are now grouped in a collapsed list item; selecting this selects them all, unless you expand the tree and select individuals.
01:08.36Repo- Lots of internal changes to the generic list handler because of this, so let me know if there's any issues there.
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01:08.46NivFreakvhaarr: ora2 sets the ML back to myself on reload, when I've assigned it to someone else
01:09.01Repo- Fixed pet damage/auras not being attributed to owner.
01:09.01vhaarrso does oRA3, probably
01:09.11NivFreakis that intentional?
01:09.22vhaarrpersonally I dislike the loot method setting at all, I have no idea why ammo added it
01:09.37NivFreakeh, I like it well enough, but it needs a few more options
01:09.51NivFreakI hate reloading to disable an addon, and having it reset ML to me every time
01:10.03NivFreakor getting DC'd and having the same thing happen
01:10.06vhaarrand how do you suggest we tell the difference
01:10.15NivFreakcheck method == master looter
01:10.16NivFreakdo nothing
01:10.26NivFreakcheck method == group loot
01:10.28NivFreakset master looter
01:10.37NivFreaketc
01:10.48NivFreakI'd also love to have a stored tanks list to auto-set MTs ;)
01:10.54NivFreakI use a macro to work around this stuff now
01:11.26NivFreakthe ora3 raid cooldowns features look pretty nice, how stable/compatible is ora3? :)
01:12.18vhaarrthe cooldowns work perfectly
01:12.37NivFreakwill addons that hook ora2 MTs work alright with ora3?
01:12.56vhaarryou will need ora2 for mt's still, ora3 does -nothing- regarding mts
01:12.59vhaarratm
01:13.04NivFreakbut it's planned to?
01:13.06vhaarry
01:13.23NivFreakwill it be backward compatible in regards to MTs?
01:13.31vhaarrI can't say
01:13.36vhaarrwe haven't discussed it enough yet
01:13.37NivFreakI'm not even really sure how that works ;)
01:13.48NivFreakdoes auto-invite work?
01:13.51NivFreak;)
01:13.58vhaarryes everything else works, just tanks missing
01:14.17NivFreakpfft, not like you have other addons to work on!
01:15.07NivFreakwell, I guess I'll hold off until you guys figure out MTs, thanks
01:15.31NivFreakalso, I hear spygnome is dead?
01:15.39vhaarrspygnome died when ace2 did
01:15.47Repo10ora2: 03Rabbit * r661 Leader/Loot.lua:
01:15.50RepoDon't set the loot method if it's already set to how we want it. Drycoded.
01:16.01gfydoes ora3 support MT frames yet?
01:16.11vhaarr<vhaarr> you will need ora2 for mt's still, ora3 does -nothing- regarding mts
01:16.14vhaarr<vhaarr> yes everything else works, just tanks missing
01:16.20vhaarr<gfy> does ora3 support MT frames yet?
01:16.20vhaarr<vhaarr> <vhaarr> you will need ora2 for mt's still, ora3 does -nothing- regarding mts
01:16.20vhaarr<vhaarr> <vhaarr> yes everything else works, just tanks missing
01:16.23vhaarrjust in case you missed it
01:16.26vhaarrwant it again
01:16.27gfylols
01:16.27vhaarr?
01:16.31yarootthe most important stuff: MT!!!
01:16.31NivFreaklol
01:16.32gfyno, thank you!
01:16.50gfyI didn't quite get if oRA3 supports MT frames yet though :((
01:16.52Repo10ora3: 03Rabbit * r222 modules/Loot.lua:
01:16.53Shirikhey vhaarr
01:16.55RepoDon't set the loot method if it's already set to how we want it. Drycoded.
01:16.55NivFreakhrmm, I need an addon checking replacement then :)
01:16.59ShirikI have question about ora3
01:17.03vhaarr<NivFreak> will it be backward compatible in regards to MTs?
01:17.04vhaarr<vhaarr> I can't say
01:17.04vhaarr<vhaarr> we haven't discussed it enough yet
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01:17.45NivFreakvhaarr: if you're making that commit to ora2, I'll try it wednesday
01:17.53vhaarr<Repo> ora2: Rabbit * r661 Leader/Loot.lua:
01:17.53vhaarr<Repo> Don't set the loot method if it's already set to how we want it. Drycoded.
01:17.53NivFreaker
01:17.55NivFreakyes
01:17.57NivFreakI saw it now
01:18.00NivFreakI spoke too soon :P
01:18.03vhaarrShirik: ask away
01:18.13NivFreakdoes it suppor MTs yet?
01:18.13Shirikdoes it support MT frames yet?
01:18.13NivFreakhaha
01:18.15Shirikducks
01:18.17vhaarr:P
01:18.32NivFreakvhaarr: and thanks
01:18.36ShirikI really don't understand the point of MT frames
01:18.48ShirikI've been a healer for a very long time now and never used the monce
01:18.49NivFreakso you can assist tanks easily?
01:18.55Shirikah assist :/
01:18.57NivFreakI don't use them when I heal
01:19.00NivFreakI use them as tank/dps
01:19.01gfyit's more for DPS and other tanks I guess
01:19.18vhaarrthey're useless for healers, all other roles use them extensively, at least I do when I tank or dps
01:19.21NivFreakit is nice if you can pull MTs to a specific spot in your raid frames though
01:19.44NivFreakdepending on the fight of course
01:20.03NivFreakif you need to regularly heal specific targets, it's nice to have them grouped :)
01:20.27NivFreakbut using seperate frames + grid is just wrong
01:20.39NivFreakand the ora2 layouts for grid have never worked out well for me
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01:22.38NivFreakgrid needs a layout interface like the iphone's app sorting interface ;)
01:25.22Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 8f86bad Main.lua: [+1 commit] Update the maintank list from oRA faster.  An optimizaiton broke this.
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01:34.46NivFreakis it possible to script/macro a minimap ping on your current location?
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01:43.21NivFreakso you can determine your own coords, and a player in your party/raid's coords, and you can do this in an instance now correct?
01:47.41Zeksieif the isntance has an art map
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04:23.25drweirdis GetPlayerMapPosition suppose to be working inside of instances in 3.1.3? they seem to break it every other patch
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04:32.36Arrowmasterit only works in northrend instances
04:33.22Shirikit works fine, drweird
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04:37.23drweirdyeah its working ok,  was testing in an instance w/o maps.. failure
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04:43.28Primerit fails when you change dungeon levels though
04:43.42Primere.g. Ulduar
04:44.45PrimerI mean, when the other player is not on the same level
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04:53.02drweirdoh that is kind of fail.
04:53.13drweirdbut i just found out, TomTomping does what i wanted to do, so even better!
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04:57.54PrimerWhy not use FriendlyArrow?
04:58.07Primer:)
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04:58.23Primersince it's made for tracking players
04:58.49PrimerWhat is it that you're trying to do anyhow?
04:59.35drweirdyeah looks like it does it too.  my GM asked me to look into writing something quick that does basically what friendlyarrow/tomtomping do. (I searched around curse and didnt see those).. primarly for:
05:00.06drweirdboss fights in instance, quick location of where people.. rezzes,  yogg coordination
05:00.11Primerafaik, tomtomping only points the arrow at pings on the map (at least, that's all it did last time I checked)
05:00.29Primerwhereas FriendlyArrow (my addon) tracks people
05:00.35drweirdtomtom has come a little way, you can manually point it at stuff now
05:00.47Zeksieanyone know of a post-it note type mod. i want something i can just popup, write on. leave on screen for a bit and then throw it away when I'm done ;)
05:00.51drweirdbut yah, friendlyarrow looks good.. i mean, i guess.. for your addon. :) hehe
05:01.25Primerwell, the author said he was going to add the ability to track people, but then he discovered my addon, implying that he wasn't going to add it then
05:02.30drweirdcool, im installing it now.. think he's going to test it too
05:02.35Primerwatch the video
05:02.41Primerso you can see it in action
05:03.10PrimerI've added some new features since the video though, like, toggling the arrow when someone ranges you
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05:29.43RepoMorgDKP2
05:29.46Repo-added classcolors support
05:29.50Repo-added display of users added to listener list (syncing)
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06:09.59Adirelle3) profit
06:10.19Fisker2.5) ???
06:11.58Adirelle^^
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07:20.16Adirelle|workhrm, does GetPlayerMapPositions work in arenas ?
07:21.04stolenl|schoolaren't all coords zero in arenas?
07:21.09Zeksiemeh @ anim system... latest attempt crashes wow every time :|
07:22.36Adirelle|workstolenl|school: dunno, never tried
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07:22.49Adirelle|workthat's why I ask ^^
07:29.15NivFreakhrmm
07:29.28NivFreakso I went back to embedded addons to make it easier to debug a performance issue
07:29.36NivFreakand now pitbull isn't showing my MT frames
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07:35.32Elkanodamn... just found another speedup for my alphamath entry :/ I didn't know that x+0 was that much faster than tonumber(x)
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07:36.33stolenl|schoolwell, i'm going to music lesson now
07:36.35stolenl|schoolsee you later
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07:41.42TNSex+0 faster? O_o
07:41.48Elkanoyeah
07:42.08Elkanogot a speedup of 1/3
07:42.33TNSethis is why I hate script languages
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07:43.10TNSeyou never get to see why it doesn't make sense.
07:43.26Elkanobut checking over the other entries, it seems like mine is still the fastest, at least for large problems
07:43.34Adirelle|workElkano: doesn't x+0 fails in some cases ?
07:43.41Adirelle|worklua_bot: "5"+0
07:43.41lua_botAdirelle|work: 5
07:43.45Adirelle|worklua_bot: type("5"+0)
07:43.46lua_botAdirelle|work: number
07:43.49Adirelle|worklua_bot: type("x"+0)
07:43.50lua_botAdirelle|work: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a string value
07:43.56Adirelle|worklua_bot: type(nil+0)
07:43.57lua_botAdirelle|work: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value
07:44.13Adirelle|worklua_bot: tonumber("x")
07:44.20lua_botAdirelle|work: nil
07:44.29pb_ee1lua_bot: type(nil)
07:44.33lua_botpb_ee1: nil
07:44.53pb_ee1lua_bot: type("keyboard")
07:44.54lua_botpb_ee1: string
07:44.58pb_ee1weee
07:45.03ElkanoAdirelle, yeah it can cause errors but since I know that the string being 'cast' is a number it's fine
07:45.05pb_ee1lua_bot: type("string")
07:45.06lua_botpb_ee1: string
07:45.12pb_ee1=^_^=
07:45.45Elkanojust managed to solve calculate("ABC", "?", "DEF", "GHIJ") in 6.5 secs on my machine ^^ via brute force
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07:48.20Elkanobut at least xinhuan also put some pretty fast code together :)
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07:56.05hasteTNSe: it isn't really suprising that x+0 is faster, as it dosen't have the fail safes and so on
07:56.27hasteit also isn't a function call
07:56.41TNSeI'm more likely to udnerstand the second part
07:56.59TNSebut if it has to do with fail safes, then they should supply a tonumber_unsafe()
07:57.23TNSeexcept not
07:57.33TNSepoor coding practice if you keep on converting strings to numbers :P
08:03.41Adirelle|workPrimer: you were speak about FriendlyArrow, are you the author ?
08:05.15HjalteDo the WG weeklies reset on weekly maintenance?
08:05.43Adirelle|workthat's unclear
08:05.48Adirelle|workblues say they do
08:06.07Adirelle|workbut sharing/taking the quest  from npc seems screwed up (at least to me)
08:06.58HjalteYes, I've had problems with it as well. And then suddenly, I was able to get them shared to me, although the questgivers didn't have them for me.
08:08.21Fiskerslaps haste around a bit with a large trout
08:08.23Fiskerhej
08:09.13bluspacecowPost by Pngguy "5.8 million gone in 2 years??? Don't tell Google it goes that easily, it'd be bankrupt by tomorrow. That's more than $240,000.00 per month. If Curse is spending that much, than it's time for Chapter 11 for mismanagement of the business, or go work regular jobs and run Curse on the side, like how it started out."
08:09.21bluspacecowi have no idea how to respond to that
08:09.34bluspacecowhttp://my.curse.com/forums/p/82905/500031.aspx#500031
08:10.42Kalrothlol
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08:10.55bluspacecowhow about "bandwidth is not free"
08:11.08bluspacecow"curse.com also do stuff for games other than wow"
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08:13.54Adirelle|workWTB a way to disable some movers in SexyMap
08:16.47Hjalte"We've altered the original text to reflect that the decreased casting time for summoning mounts applies only to ground mounts. Flying mounts still require a 3 second cast time." - How long will it take to cast ground mounts then?
08:17.09Elkanothanks god I'm a druid
08:18.01HjalteElkano: Now they just need to make flight form 310% if you have a 310% mount ;)
08:18.15Elkano^^
08:18.22[Ammo]naah, flightform has the instant pewpew advantage :p
08:18.29Elkanoor change my idol back to +10% :/
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08:19.42HjalteI agree flight form is OP in many ways, but it does feel silly having to chose between it and the 310 mount I got.
08:20.06HjalteOh, and wtb being able to have herbalism. That's when flight form gets really, really good.
08:20.25HjalteI need two raiding professions at the moment.
08:20.25Elkanoyeah, herbalism and skinning ^^
08:22.28bluspacecowlike being able to jump straight into flight form from water in some areas
08:22.58HjalteIf you jump right, you can always do that.
08:23.53Fiskerhaste i made you a fart
08:23.55Fiskerbut i ated it :(
08:25.05ElkanoFisker, you're a lazy bum... why no code from you?
08:28.22Fiskeri don't code LUA
08:28.30krkaFisker: You shouldn't capitalize Lua like that. :-)
08:28.35Fiskeryes i should
08:28.40FiskerLUA = Lua's Used as an Acronym
08:28.44FiskerLUA's*
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08:33.21Fiskerso [Ammo] how far is oRA3 now? :3
08:45.43Fisker:(
08:46.29Kalrothhe's working on oRA4 already!
08:49.24Elkanona, he skipped 4 and went straight to oRA5
08:49.53FiskerJust like World War 5 then
08:49.59Kalrothsoon he'll enter roman numerical letters and call it oRAL
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08:59.41bluspacecow:D
09:02.04FiskerUpdate 6/15: We've altered the original text to reflect that the decreased casting time for summoning mounts applies only to ground mounts. Flying mounts still require a 3 second cast time. <-failboat
09:02.09SunTsuHjalte: What's nice, when doing the turnament daily where you have to gather wood you can switch into flight form before the treant guardians awake
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09:04.05hasteI just loot everything while running and ignoring them
09:04.28Fiskeri did the same
09:04.31Fiskerthen they dazed me
09:04.33FiskerQQ
09:05.42Fiskerhttp://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/7232wall.jpg
09:05.44FiskerOM NOM NOM
09:09.46Higdurdoes anyone know how arena point conversion works? I cannot seem to find a formula that is correct for low ratings anywhere...
09:10.09Fiskeryou get the same amount of points until a certain point i believe
09:10.19Higduryeah, that's my guess
09:10.32Higdurbut I can't seem to find info about it anywhere
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09:11.31HigdurI did 10 matches of 2v2 last week and got 97 rating (2 wins), which gave 261 points
09:11.45Repo10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 04v1.1.14 * fd1b48e /: [new tag] v1.1.14
09:12.09Higdurthe calculators seem to indicate that this should need 1500 rating, so maybe you always get the same until you're past 1500?
09:12.14bluspacecowSunTsu : even better = you can stockpile the wood for that quest .... go there farm it
09:12.20bluspacecowthen easy mode turn in
09:13.04bluspacecowfarm enough for 7-14 days worth of turn ins means you dont have to fly down there you can just turn it in right there
09:13.48SunTsubluspacecow: yeah, but you normally have to fly by there anyway when doing the blade dailies
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09:22.04stolenl|schoolmaths is fun :D
09:22.19mitch0up to a point :)
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09:22.52stolenl|schoollua> for i=1, 100 do print((4*i-1)/(1-2*i)) end
09:22.53lua_botstolenl|school: -3, -2.3333333333333, -2.2, -2.1428571428571, -2.1111111111111, -2.0909090909091, -2.0769230769231, -2.0666666666667, -2.0588235294118, -2.0526315789474, -2.047619047619, -2.0434782608696, -2.04, -2.037037037037, -2.0344827586207, -2.0322580645161, -2.030303030303, -2.0285714285714, -2.027027027027,... (result truncated)
09:23.02stolenl|schoollikes maths.
09:23.42quiescenslua> 1+1
09:23.42lua_botquiescens: 2
09:24.26stolenl|schoollmao
09:27.05stolenl|schoollua> function calc(calc) for i=1, 100 do print(calc); end end calc(3+i);
09:27.06lua_botstolenl|school: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'i' (a nil value)
09:27.13stolenl|schoollua isn't as intelligent as i hoped :(
09:27.50stolenl|schoolhrm lol
09:27.59stolenl|schoolwe're using some strange maths prog at school
09:28.13stolenl|schooland this is what i get if i copy (2*n-1)/n
09:28.15stolenl|school<command><input><math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML"><mi>a</mi><mo>(</mo><mi>n</mi><mo>)</mo><mo>=</mo><mfrac><mrow><mn>2</mn><mo>*</mo><mi>n</mi><mo>-</mo><mn>1</mn></mrow><mi>n</mi></mfrac><mo>;</mo></math></input></command>
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09:30.38bluspacecow?
09:30.40bluspacecowweird
09:30.44krkaare you trying to use complex math?
09:30.46bluspacecowmibbit beeped at me
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09:31.17stolenl|schoolnope
09:31.45stolenl|schoolstandby for imageshack
09:32.01bluspacecowi bet it was stolens fault
09:32.02NivFreakbest use of my ally so far?
09:32.04NivFreakinvite to the alliance defense raid, and redirect them to the wrong capital
09:32.04bluspacecow~stolen
09:32.05purlhmm... stolen is stolenlegacy
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09:32.09NivFreakwin
09:32.36stolenl|schoolpurl, stolenl is stolenlegacy
09:32.36purlstolenl|school: okay
09:32.45krkastolenl|school: perhaps _you_ aren't as intelligent as you thought? :)
09:32.56stolenl|schoolstolenl|school: why?
09:33.07bluspacecowpurl, bluspace is stolen|'s pimp daddy
09:33.07purlokay, bluspacecow
09:33.18stolenl|schoolokaypurl, forget bluspace
09:33.22stolenl|schoolpurl, forget bluspace
09:33.23purli forgot bluspace, stolenl|school
09:33.33stolenl|schoolkrka: i copied the highlighted part
09:33.34stolenl|schoolhttp://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4245/abcdo.jpg
09:35.10stolenl|schoolNivFreak: nice one
09:35.15stolenl|schoolis bored.
09:35.18stolenl|schooloh well, english class now
09:35.23stolenl|schoolis happy.
09:38.18stolenl|schoolKaelten: ping
09:42.42jnwhitehdoes Zidomo come here at all?
09:42.44jnwhiteh!seen Zidomo
09:43.03jnwhiteh~seen Zidomo
09:43.06purlzidomo <i=chatzill@bas9-toronto12-1088717409.dsl.bell.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 329d 7h 47m 21s ago, saying: 'heh. for a useless feature'.
09:43.13jnwhitehheh no
09:43.41SunTsuMaybe once a year, so he should be around "soon" ;)
09:44.37jnwhitehhe's saying tha tsomeone's has "Stole" sylvanaar's RightClick mod.
09:44.40jnwhitehhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/right-wing/repositories/mainline/
09:44.43mitch0anyone got a github reg and would care to file a feature request for TourGuide in my name? :)
09:45.03jnwhitehhttp://pastey.net/116132
09:45.06jnwhitehit has six lines of code
09:45.12jnwhitehand there's really only 2 ways to code them
09:45.19jnwhitehso I fail to see how it's possibly "theft"
09:45.55mitch0jnwhiteh: ever heard of SCO? :)
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09:46.38Groktarpounces mitch0
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09:50.05stolenl|schoolSunTsu: (tm)?
09:50.21SunTsustolenl|school: sure
09:51.20Fiskerthe sniper throws piss at people and lives in a van :(
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10:02.10Zeksieanyone heard about planned fixes for anim system? (by anyone ofc I mean you whiteh :p) run into another crash bug (Hiding a frame when it's animationgroup runs OnFinished)
10:10.42SunTsuZeksie: In ZOMGBuffs, is there a way to turn off reminders for poison application when you are wearing low level weapons, like argent turnament lances?
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10:29.37ZeksieSunTsu: mmm. no, but that's a very good point.
10:29.51Zeksiei don't actually use that part of zomg myself.. find it annoying ;)
10:30.12Zeksiemaking a post-it for it ;)
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10:31.23Zeksieand now going for a nap
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10:43.14mitch0is there a mod that auto-loots money?
10:46.07Fiskerrightclick mob with autoloot on
10:46.09Fisker:3
10:48.01sb|workwhy so rightclick?
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11:36.28FiskerYO DAWGS
11:42.30Shinjahumm Fisker
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11:48.13sb|workmeh, fix wowhead already
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12:14.31mitch0someone please fix the link expired mess on curse :(
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12:21.53steevwoot, got steelbreaker hardmode 10, as well as hodir hardmode 10
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12:22.44tamarothshame that they're relatively easy compared to 25man
12:23.12steevyeah they are, although steelbreaker probably took us an hour
12:23.34steevwe finally replaced the mage with no spatial awareness with our rogue
12:23.40Repo10ora2: 03kagaro * r662 / (2 files in 2 directories):
12:23.43RepoPatch: dont trigger tank death warning for hunters who feign death. Also updates thier health status to FD
12:23.53tamarothyeah, but once everyone will catch up, it's only easier and easier :)
12:24.08steevyou're assuming people catch up
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12:24.34tamarothwell
12:24.36tamaroththey should :)
12:24.36steevwe went from downing thorim 3 weeks in a row to banging our heads against the wall on it 3 weeks in a row
12:24.53steevin 25
12:25.51steevhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Sen'jin&cn=Steev&gn=Cult+of+the+Dead+Cow
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12:26.33steevgot going down cuz i ran off the edge at sons of hodir (wrong mount yet again)
12:26.46stolenlegacygratz
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12:27.03steevvent went something like this
12:27.08steevme: oh god damn it
12:27.13steev<Going Down>
12:27.18steeveveryone: grats!
12:27.32Fiskerslaps steev around a bit with a large trout
12:27.39steevkisses Fisker
12:27.42stolenlegacylooks for a meat grinder.
12:27.59GagorianCan't log on at the moment so can someone remind me if GetSpellInfo("name of spell") always returns the highest or lowest rank? (obviously only for spells in your spellbook)
12:28.48steevand thorim is a ton easier on 10 than 25
12:29.11steevwe didn't push hardmode because one of the tanks had classes today
12:29.41Fiskeri wanna destroy you
12:30.06steevits cuz i kissed you isn't it :(
12:30.19steevor is it cuz i pvp with a shaman
12:30.45steevi need to get a resto druid so we can faceroll to 2800
12:30.51pentium166you do a pretty good job of getting yourself destroyed in that case anyway
12:31.11steevwas bored, he asked, i said sure
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12:32.48mitch0gagorian: I remember having "issues" with it
12:32.53Fiskerlol
12:33.00Fiskertransformers comes from giant meteors in the space
12:33.05Fiskerin space*
12:33.12mitch0gagorian: I found this comment in my code: "... but we must match by spell name because there is no generic way of "normalizing" all ranks of a spell to a common spellId"
12:33.34mitch0gagorian: I sorta remember that it was lowest rank for _some_ spells, and highest rank for others...
12:33.44Gagoriandurr :D
12:34.02mitch0it had something to do with rogue-like and mage-like spells
12:35.23Gagorianah, I guess there's some logic in that
12:35.28Gagorian-some-
12:35.47GagorianSo the ones which replace the previous ones in the spellbook would all be "rogue-like"?
12:35.53mitch0yep
12:36.15mitch0but then I couldn't convert those back to the "rank1" version, if I remember correctly
12:36.46mitch0so I ended up storing spellIds in the db to avoid locale issues, but using spell names when matching
12:37.11CheadstinaWill ghost wolf still have a 2 second cast time after the land mounts have a 1.5 second cast time?
12:37.23pentium166it's shamans, so probably
12:37.23steevprobably
12:37.51steevi love my elemental shaman :(
12:38.07steevohsnap
12:38.13steevnewegg is having a 24 hour sale
12:38.16stolenlegacyGagorian: should return highest
12:38.18steev22" monitor for 139.99
12:38.25stolenlegacybut don't count on it
12:38.31Gagorianmitch0: Yeah, I use spell names and "rank names" for the matching.. the problem will be when the actionbar addon for some reason won't pass the rank properly.. but there's no way around that
12:38.46GagorianSo I'll just use the highest rank
12:39.09GagorianHence I'm also not listing all spellIDs, just one per spell
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12:42.37Cheadstinahope the totem set casting comes in 3.2
12:45.31mitch0is there a summary page about the upcoming changes?
12:45.56Cheadstinanot an official one to my knowledge
12:46.16steevsummary: login in, get free epics
12:46.26mitch0chead: an unofficial? :)
12:46.39CheadstinaI think I saw one somewhere.. let me have a loook
12:46.48steevmmo-champion is usually all over there
12:47.22steevhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009145&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL061609&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL061609-_-LCDMonitors-_-L0C-_-24009145
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12:59.48Cheadstinamitch0: http://www.worldofraids.com/news/673-patch-3-2-what-we-know-so-far.html
13:04.05steevhah
13:04.13steev"Dual wield specs will be getting attention"
13:04.16steevsuuuuuuuuuuure
13:04.24steevright after i make my second spec it6
13:04.41CheadstinaDK?
13:05.38sb|workpriest dual wield
13:05.47Cheadstinauh
13:06.00Cheadstinadual weiding staffs!
13:06.46steevCheadstina: yes, dk
13:06.54steevthey will never address dw properly
13:07.18steevalthough my dw spec is only around 200dps less than my 2h spec
13:07.29steevmainly due to the fact that i have an ass ton of hit rating *sigh*
13:07.38Cheadstinaeither it's dual wield for one spec (with required talent) or not.. making both viable is a no-go
13:08.40Wobinsteev: an imperial ass ton?
13:08.46steevmetric
13:08.50Wobincause if it's a metric one, it'd be an arse ton
13:09.05Cheadstinahehe
13:09.07steevi have something around 400 in dw
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13:09.15steevwithout gemming or enchants
13:09.23Wobincrazy =)
13:09.28steevannoying
13:09.32Wobinthat too =)
13:09.32mitch0chead: thanks
13:09.38Wobinimpressive though
13:09.39steevbecause it means i have 330 right now
13:09.43steevin 2h
13:09.52steevwithout gemming and trying NOT to gem for the +hit on gear
13:10.05steevbut having to on my t8 shoulders because of my meta
13:10.20FiskerSHIT ON A STICK
13:10.25Fiskeroh hi there
13:10.27steevbut, since i have 2 t8 now
13:10.37sb|workhi Fisker!
13:10.42steevthe guild wants me to switch from unholy to this "icy touch machine gun" spec
13:10.57Wobinsteev: that's where you spam IT over and over again, yeh?
13:10.59steevpersonally... i wanna try out silly specs
13:11.02steevWobin: yep
13:11.11Wobinwhat's the rotation on that?
13:11.34steevfaceroll whenever it isn't on cooldown i think, lemme look
13:12.03Wobinhehe
13:12.20WobinI figured there would be some use of deathrunes somewhere
13:12.34Fiskerhey sb|work
13:12.37Fiskerwanna sc2 beta?
13:13.47sb|workyup, giev already
13:14.28steevOB -> OB -> BS -> BS -> FS Dump
13:14.28steevIT -> IT -> IT -> FS -> IT -> IT -> IT -> FS Dump
13:16.27steevWobin: ^^
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13:16.48Fiskeromg sb|work we have common interests
13:16.49Fiskerwanna make out?
13:17.01Wobinoh of course, diseaseless
13:17.11steevWobin: apparently so
13:17.16steevtook me a bit to find it
13:17.24Wobinlooks like fun =P
13:17.37steevsince the thread on our guild forums isn't "death knight specs" its "so you died and became a death knight..."
13:17.41Wobinthen again, I like the blooddps rotation cause it has heartstrike spam =)
13:17.54steevyeah, i've been playing around with a spec, and i'd like to try it on my dk
13:17.56steevwell
13:18.02steevi've been playing around with it on one of my dk's
13:18.08steevi'd like to try it on my more geared dk
13:18.43Wobinwhat do you need to make the IT spam viable?
13:19.49steev2piece t8 (i think), sigil from 25 xt, it/oblit/fs glyphs
13:20.02steevi *think* thats it
13:20.13steevbut he doesn't really say "what" the high gear requirements are
13:20.30steevbut im pretty much 3rd best geared dk in our guild currently (and still only member ranked :( )
13:20.38WobinYou'd need sufficient hit for the IT, I guess
13:20.49Wobinsince it's a spell
13:21.11Wobinthus it won't work too well for my tanking gear =)
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13:21.24WobinI was thinking it might be a nice change if I had to dps in tanking gear
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13:21.47steevahh
13:22.41steevhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbh61zuNYr8
13:23.46Wobinhehe, I remember that one
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13:24.11Fiskerin the mountains?
13:24.27tamarothyou
13:24.49WobinThe Macgyver one is the best, imo
13:25.37steevWobin: link!
13:25.45Wobinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C54yPPiQMfw&feature=channel
13:26.34Fiskerno
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13:32.37steevWobin: i mainly run as "Shadowfrost" which is the 0/10/61 spec
13:33.23Wobinhm, I haven't run a heavy unholy spec since pre80
13:33.43steevuh oh, ej is 502
13:34.05steevWobin: blood just always feels like im waiting on runes
13:34.11Wobintrue
13:34.13SunTsuI never ever tried anything except deep unholy. I loved it right from the start
13:34.18Wobinbut most DKing is about waiting for runes =)
13:35.02SunTsuAs long as you can burn rune power while doing so... ;)
13:35.58steevi never seem to have much rp in blood spec - waiting on wowhead to work to show a spec i've been considering
13:36.06WobinI found the pets too unwieldy
13:36.15Wobinsteev: use mmochampion
13:36.17steevturn off the auto stuff
13:36.25Wobinhttp://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=&version=9767
13:36.49WobinI was so hoping to get the extra dps from the ghoul on mimron
13:36.57Wobinbut mimi is such a pet unfriendly fight =(
13:37.14Wobinwithout a whole heap of micromanagement
13:37.58steevyeah, he's kinda a bitch
13:38.04steevaotd is useless on steelbreaker hardmode
13:38.07steevwell no
13:38.12steevits actually quite detrimental
13:38.23steevevery time an aotd ghoul dies, heals him+buff
13:39.18Wobinaotd is great in heroics for wiping a party =P
13:39.32Wobinuse it on Cygnosia, and she strafeburns the instance =P
13:40.47steevyep
13:41.44SunTsuaotd is nice for deathpacting ;)
13:41.56steevif they lasted long enough for the cd
13:42.14Wobin<3 deathpact
13:42.26Wobinmy ghoul is a mobile healthpotion
13:42.58Kaeltenstolenlegacy: pongish, I'll be back on in a hour or two if it's a big thing
13:43.13Wobinhm, I totally should have used it while trying to tank mimi... but I expect he was already dead by the time it was my turn
13:43.18stolenlegacyKaelten: nah, just a little bug
13:43.46stolenlegacywhen i visit an addon page @curse, it sometimes says You need to or register in the comments section
13:43.47steevWobin: dunno any dk's who tank with the ghoul up any time before its actually needed to be killed
13:43.49stolenlegacy"login" is missing
13:43.54stolenlegacyand even though i'm logged in
13:44.12Wobinsteev: true, but there's the 'load time' as it were to take into account
13:44.14Kaeltenstolenlegacy: yep, it's a low priority bug that fucks with me daily
13:44.20stolenlegacykay
13:44.22Kaeltenyou have to logout and then back in
13:44.26WobinI don't think you can DP while the ghoul is pulling itself out of the ground
13:44.36Kaeltenit seems to be related to using the site from multiple computers
13:44.49Wobinalthough probably something I should test
13:44.56Kaeltensometimes it won't let you logout so you have to clear the curse.com cookies
13:45.05stolenlegacyKaelten: very possible related to multiple PCs
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13:45.26Kaeltenyeah, it also seemingly doesn't affect people who don't use curseforge as much
13:45.37SunTsusteev: My ghoul lasts surprisingly long during tanking
13:45.54KaeltenSunTsu: every guy says that
13:45.55sb|worktanking what? hogger?
13:46.19steevSunTsu: 2 minutes to be exact!
13:46.26SunTsusteev: as unholy? ;)
13:46.27sb|workKaelten: so you call him "ghoul"?!
13:46.28stolenlegacyWobin: iirc, you actually can
13:46.33steevno one tanks unholy
13:46.36steevexcept me :(
13:46.39SunTsusteev: er, I do
13:46.40stolenlegacysteev: and me!
13:46.46Wobinstolenlegacy: damn this downtime, I can't test!
13:46.57stolenlegacyWobin: EU got it better
13:46.57SunTsusteev: I dps and tank as unholy
13:47.03stolenlegacyi can test if it's ugend
13:47.07stolenlegacys/ugend/urgent/
13:47.41steevhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTZVvFn6rmo
13:48.03sb|workoh and btw, aotd is also good for wiping yogg saron raids :p
13:48.09steevSunTsu: same :( - well, i have 2 different dks, one tanks as unholy and dps's as blood, the other dps's as unholy or (as of last night, the it6)
13:48.16steevsb|work: hell yes, awesome idea!
13:48.32sb|workghouls taunting immortal guardians inside yogg..
13:48.35sb|workthats great
13:48.48steevWobin: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=23050205300033032311230013500000000000000000000000000000230130335000000100000000000000&glyph=101908060504&version=9947
13:48.59sb|workand yes, been there *sigh* TWICE... i want some new deathknights...
13:49.04stolenlegacyDK tanking is like a cheap prostitute. She runs in, gets the attention of all the guys, spreads some diseases around, then loots them and moves on when she's done.
13:49.16sb|workwtf :P
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13:49.46steevsb|work: we want some new.... non-retards for our 25s
13:49.49Wobinwtf?
13:49.56stolenlegacysteev: what class? :D
13:49.57steevthe issue is, we can't even tell who all is retarded
13:50.14stolenlegacyWobin: i can confirm that you can indeed DP your ghoul right after summoning
13:50.16steevstolenlegacy: pretty much... everything aside from 2 tanks, an enh shaman, a rogue and 2 dks
13:50.24Wobinstolenlegacy: woo
13:50.24stolenlegacysteev: realm?
13:50.30steevstolenlegacy: sen'jin
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13:50.37steevpremonition is on our server :(
13:50.47stolenlegacy:)
13:51.08Wobinsteev: Dirge and not Unholy Blight?
13:51.13steevi just really wish they'd make me a raider already
13:51.16stolenlegacyno UB? oO
13:51.35stolenlegacyUB is king for tanking, no matter whether you're ST or MT
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13:51.37steevWobin: more rp for dc's - ub hasn't been that great in my testing
13:51.51stolenlegacydoes more damage than DC for same cost in my experience
13:51.59steevbut yeah, i'd actually tried the ub, with the glyph previously
13:52.07steevstolenlegacy: with the 25 sigil?
13:52.14stolenlegacysteev: nope
13:52.24stolenlegacyi've got the badge one
13:52.37stolenlegacyhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azshara&n=Darkstomper
13:52.39steevim still waiting on a parse of last night
13:52.42stolenlegacymy armory, if i didn't mis-type
13:52.44Wobinoh god, Sudden Doom
13:52.49steevhell yes!
13:52.49WobinI completely forgot about that talent
13:52.58Wobinand I was wondering where the hell those DCs were coming from =P
13:53.02steevheh
13:53.18stolenlegacysudden doom? isn't that in blood?
13:53.27Wobinyeah
13:53.35stolenlegacyaren't we talking about UH? :D
13:53.44Wobinstolenlegacy: no, Steev's build which he linked earlier
13:53.46Wobinblood heavy
13:53.52steevstolenlegacy: no, we're talking about a blood dps spec that could use ub if you wanted
13:53.56stolenlegacydidn't look at it
13:54.06stolenlegacykay, forget what i said
13:54.15stolenlegacybut when i hear UB, i think about UH
13:54.24Wobin21 in UH
13:54.26stolenlegacyand since we were talking about UH tanking earlier, i assumed ;)
13:54.30stolenlegacyyeah, just saw ti
13:54.32stolenlegacys/ti/it/
13:54.50Wobinsteev: what sort of rotation do you use?
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13:55.46steevwhere?
13:55.54steevin that spec?
13:56.02Wobinyrh
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13:56.19steevps->it->ds->hs->hs->rt->hs->dc*
13:56.42steevsomething along those lines
13:56.50steevrt being rune tap
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13:58.39Wobinrune tap?
13:58.58Wobinblood tap?
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13:59.26stolenlegacyhttp://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogue=30500310530210252212030100000500000000000000000000000005320232000302120000000000000&glyph=292005060203&version=9947 is this rogue pvp build okay? yes/no
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14:01.06tlundi have never used an actionbar addon, but i am thinking about starting now. What should i look at other than Bartender4?
14:01.35stolenlegacythere aren't any good alternatives, actually
14:01.51stolenlegacywhen it comes to actionbars, bartender is king
14:02.22SunTsutlund: maybe dominos
14:02.44stolenlegacydominos isn't really well-maintained, iirc
14:03.20steever yeah blood tap, sory
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14:03.35steevtlund: ractionbarstyler
14:05.07winkillermhm, ^why don't I get  Unholy Presence at 58?
14:05.36stolenlegacywinkiller: because it's a level 70 ability?
14:05.47winkillerwowdb sucks :P
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14:05.49winkillersays 55
14:05.55stolenlegacywowhead?
14:05.58stolenlegacyoh yeah, it's down atm :
14:06.03stolenlegacys/:/://
14:06.24winkilleryou forgot escaping :>
14:06.48Wobinno, one too many /'s
14:06.57steevnope
14:07.00Wobinno, you're right
14:07.00steevits escaping
14:07.02winkiller: -> : :D
14:07.06Wobinit's escaping =)
14:07.10FiskerWobin is a soul-less monster
14:07.17steevi fucking hate tuesdays
14:07.23stolenlegacyi wanted to do : -> :/
14:07.24Wobinwaves his battlebot at Fisker. Yes I am.
14:07.29steevim actually forced to work while at work instead of play wow
14:07.48winkillerE488: <german error msg>
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14:08.04winkillers/:/:\//
14:08.05winkillerworks
14:09.06stolenlegacywinkiller: post error message
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14:09.29winkillerlook up "vim e488" :P
14:09.44winkillerprobably "surplus char"
14:10.10stolenlegacypost german error?^^
14:10.22winkillertoo lazy to c'n'p!
14:10.28stolenlegacy:P
14:10.33winkillerE488: Überschüssige Zeichen
14:10.44winkillerI hate locales
14:10.51steevtrailing characters?
14:10.58winkilleryeah ofc
14:11.13winkillers/:/://
14:11.43winkillerthe meaning is "too many" though
14:11.44Wobinmaybe purl doesn't accept escaping =P
14:12.06Wobin:
14:12.12Wobins/:/:\/
14:12.18Wobinsee? =)
14:12.26steevFocus Anger, on Yogg-Saron’s Crusher tentacles, will no longer result from pet attacks.
14:12.41Wobinyay AotD time!
14:12.41winkillerWobin: that's what I said, so why did you disagree and now agree? :P
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14:14.23Wobinno I thought you weren't escaping, then I thought it was the escaping then I realised she doesn't care about escaping.
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14:17.57steevthey really need to kill off pally wings+bubble
14:18.01steevthat shit is getting annoying
14:20.53Wobincockroaches, all of them =P
14:20.55pentium166i fought a two-paladin team once
14:21.05steevyou mean you laid down and died
14:21.17pentium166the ret guy had two shields on him basically all the time unless i was purge spamming him
14:21.39steevwish they'd change ps back to removing hots
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14:22.08steevits not like we can actually spam ps
14:22.14steevversus them spamming the hots
14:22.26steevat most we can spam it 3 times
14:22.46pentium166barkskin = undispellable innervate: best idea ever
14:23.25steevbarkskin doesn't bother me, the fact that i just swing away and don't take their health down at all because all they have to do is spam heals does
14:24.35pentium166it bothers your healer when they get 30% mana return on a 6 minute cooldown, IF someone doesn't autoattack mana tide
14:24.56pentium166and the druid gets an entire mana pool with no chance to dispel it unless the druid's dumb
14:25.29steevresto druids will always be op, shaman's will always be ignored, get used to it already
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14:25.41Fiskeryou mean you failed
14:25.47steevnou
14:26.05Stanzilla_omg, 16 hours without internet...I hate the telecom :(
14:26.09FiskerRet pala = worst spec in the game
14:26.15FiskerJust below "Untalented"
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14:28.59steevYour Conversation Killing skill has increased to 450.
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14:49.22Wobin[Steev] has earned the achievement [Are You Talkin' To Me?]
14:50.59steevheh
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15:01.02steevFeral Cat DPS
15:01.03steevKitty dps is probably a little too high. It's tricky though because it is a very demanding spec to play well and if nerf it for the best players, the less-skilled ones might really see their dps plummet.
15:01.18steevI really don't see the issue there - if you're "less-skilled" then get "more-skilled"
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15:04.49pentium166"stop sucking so we can nerf feral dps"
15:06.21thulI want rogue dps to > most dps.
15:06.23thulthat is what I want.
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15:07.21steevgood rogue dps > most dps
15:07.44steevour rogue out dpses pretty much everyone except our enh shaman
15:07.59steevand even then depending on the fight the two go back and forth
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15:09.46steevpentium166: the issue is, there will always be horrible druids who blame their lack of dps on "the nerfs"
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15:21.39sickdrahilsteev: our feral is our top melee dps right now.
15:21.49sickdrahilhe is untouchable
15:23.11steevour top five are (depending on fight order changes but always the same 5) hunter, enh shaman (normally #1), rogue (normally #2), dk, boomkin
15:24.26SunTsuHunter is our top aggro dps *g*
15:25.03steevheh
15:25.13steevwe had to reset hodir yesterday because our hunter died (nfi how)
15:25.54FiskerAckisWork you wanna beta?
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15:27.00Stanzilla_wtb EU login servers back
15:27.00Stanzilla_:<
15:27.14SunTsuStanzilla_: Normal or Bnet?
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15:28.47FiskerThey're fine
15:29.07Stanzilla_SunTsu: bnet
15:29.10steevwtb rolling restarts
15:29.14SunTsuStanzilla_: dang
15:29.25FiskerThey're fine
15:29.27Stanzilla_Fisker: notrly
15:29.30Fiskeryes rly
15:29.45FiskerConnected to 213.248.127.130:1119
15:29.46Stanzilla_The login server is currently busy. please try again later
15:29.49FiskerGRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_TOKEN result: LOGIN_OK
15:29.52FiskerWHATS THIS MOTHERFUCKER?
15:29.57Fisker:3
15:29.59Stanzilla_ur mom
15:30.02steevgrunt?
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15:30.34FiskerThen you're trying to login to a us battle.net server
15:30.42steevwhat's grunt?
15:30.42FiskerEither because your client is enUS or because you suck
15:30.43Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r244 lib/SpecializedLibBars-1.0/SpecializedLibBars-1.0.lua: Fixed immovable windows (oops).
15:30.53Fiskerauthentication protocol i presume
15:31.05Stanzilla_I changed nothing :P
15:31.13Stanzilla_and It doesn't work with that IP
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15:31.32Fiskerwhat did you change?
15:31.47Stanzilla_I tried your IP in the realmlist entry
15:31.58Fiskeryou failed
15:32.01Stanzilla_maybe
15:32.04Stanzilla_tell me what to do :P
15:32.16Fiskerrealmlist is for the legacy login
15:32.26Fiskerrealmlistbn for battle.net
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15:33.06Fiskertry eu.logon.battle.net as well
15:33.07Fiskershould work
15:33.31Stanzilla_SET realmlistbn "eu.logon.battle.net" < like that?
15:33.52Fiskeryes
15:34.09Stanzilla_The login server is currently busy. please try again later
15:34.17Fiskerwerks here
15:34.23Fiskerwell mine worked from the beginning
15:34.24Fiskerhoho
15:34.41Stanzilla_wow just removed that entry from the config
15:34.43Stanzilla_nice :P
15:35.00nevcairielbecause its the default
15:35.08Fiskerdefault is nothing
15:35.18Fiskerand the reset value is us.logon.battle.net
15:35.37Stanzilla_anything else I can tryß
15:36.01AckisWorkStanzilla_: step 1, ghost stanzilla
15:36.18Stanzilla_that's my BNC so no :p
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15:40.05Stanzilla_Beachtet, dass wenn ihr auf der US Webseite eure Battle.net Accounts erstellt habt und eure World of Warcraft Accounts in diese hinzugefügt habt, dass es derzeit noch immer Wartungsarbeiten gibt und somit der Login nicht möglich ist. < k
15:40.34SunTsugrammar ftl
15:41.22Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop 041.2-15 * r245 : Tagging as 1.2-15
15:41.26Fiskertranslate or die
15:42.35Stanzilla_if you created your bnet account on the us site you lose
15:43.28SunTsuHm, I hope it works for me tonight, my last 11 days of WoW shouldn't be wasted like that ;)
15:44.34Fiskeri hate you SunTsu
15:45.01FiskerThis is quite odd actually Stanzilla
15:45.05Fiskercan you login to eu.battle.net?
15:45.13Fiskeri.e. the website
15:45.13Fiskerhttp://eu.battle.net/
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15:45.40SunTsuFisker: Thanks for the compliments
15:50.18Zyndromestill can't login to eu.battle.net =C
15:51.45SunTsuat least I can login onto eu.battle.net, so I hope I can play later on
15:52.13FiskerZyndrome
15:52.17Fiskercan you login to the website?
15:52.23Zyndromenegative
15:52.34Fiskerwhat does it say?
15:52.44Zyndromeinvalid username/password
15:52.47Fiskerweird
15:52.51Fiskeri'm apparently better than you
15:52.53Zyndromebut works fine to login ingame
15:52.54FiskerI can login to the game
15:52.57Fiskeroh
15:52.58FiskerLOL
15:53.01Fiskerwtf
15:53.06FiskerStanzilla you jackass
15:53.11Fiskercheck it now
15:53.19FiskerStanzilla
15:53.19FiskerStanzilla
15:53.34Fiskerhttp://eu.battle.net/ <-you will go to this webpage and try to login
15:53.37Fiskertell us the results
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15:53.41Fiskeror die a painful death
15:54.17MegalonThe username or password is incorrect. Please try again.
15:54.25Megalon:c
15:55.12Stanzilla_Fisker: does not work :P
15:55.16Stanzilla_what megalon said
15:55.26Fiskerthat's weird
15:55.30FiskerI can login to the game
15:55.32Fiskerbut not the website
15:55.40FiskerZyndrome and me are better than you then
15:56.00Stanzilla_:(
15:58.24FiskerLets have some dates
15:58.28Fiskerwhen did you guys merge?
15:58.33Stanzilla_urm
15:58.55Stanzilla_june 2nd
15:59.11FiskerI think there's the problem
15:59.25FiskerOr actually
15:59.29Fiskeri was thinking creation date
15:59.37AckisWorkFisker: can I merge w/ you?
15:59.38FiskerMaybe their system syncs once every month or something
15:59.41Fiskeryes AckisWork
15:59.45Fiskerbut only if it's in the butt
16:00.00AckisWorkwhat what?
16:00.08Fiskerin the butt
16:00.45Stanzilla_march 20th is creation date
16:01.55Fiskerhmm
16:02.02FiskerThen it must be significant to the wow account merge date
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16:04.05FiskerWhat about you Megalon ?
16:07.39Megalonhm?
16:07.42Megalonaccount creation?
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16:07.50Megaloneu release
16:08.13Megalon12(?) february 05
16:08.32Brunersthe login server is busy?
16:09.14Stanzilla_Megalon: he was talking about battle.net account creation
16:09.58Megaloncreation? uh
16:10.36Megalon20.03.2009 16:22
16:10.47Megalondate of the verification e-mail
16:12.23ckknight~seen xinhuan
16:12.24purlxinhuan <n=xinhuan@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/xinhuan> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 16h 12m 7s ago, saying: 'bbl'.
16:12.51Fiskeri meant when you merged with b.net Megalon
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16:17.54Megalon27.05.2009 11:02
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16:22.16Stanzilla_Fisker: logged in now
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16:23.47Megalonyea, us maintenance finished
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16:29.25Repo10epgploot2: 03felsir * r32 / (2 files in 1 directory): 2.0.8 release
16:29.27NivFreakman, TomTomPing == awesome
16:29.33NivFreakI should require this for my healers ;)
16:30.50Repo10epgploot2: 03felsir 04v2.0.8release * r33 :
16:30.52Repo-fixed bug with assigning disenchanter (no longer case sensitive)
16:30.56Repo-added need priority settings for lower armorclass items (for balance and resto druids only atm).
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17:22.01stolenlegacyis level 49 enough to start felwood?
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17:27.48Stanzilla_shefki is dissing my luatexts :(
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17:29.13AckisWorkgood
17:29.16ShefkiStanzilla_: I'm just fixing them to be better.
17:29.22Stanzilla_:P
17:29.32ShefkiNot my fault you called Name(unit) 3 times.
17:29.48Stanzilla_hehe
17:29.49Stanzilla_I appreciate it
17:30.55stolenlegacyTNSe: thx
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17:35.28Repo10friendly-arrow: 03Barfolomeu * r44 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix missing OptionalDeps in the toc.
17:36.09NivFreak@project friendly-arrow
17:36.10RepoNivFreak: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/friendly-arrow/. FriendlyArrow. Game: WoW. Barfolomeu (Manager/Author). Updated: 10 days ago. Tickets: 1/2
17:36.17Repo10friendly-arrow: 03Barfolomeu 04v0.3.4 * r45 : Tagging as v0.3.4
17:36.31PrimerNivFreak: that's me, btw
17:36.40PrimerI talked to your guildy about it yesterday
17:36.59NivFreakyea, drweird
17:37.12NivFreakthat's why I was asking about coords in here last night
17:37.33NivFreakI haven't tried yours yet
17:37.37NivFreakbut TomTomPing is awesome
17:37.41NivFreak@project tomtomping
17:37.42RepoNivFreak: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/tomtomping/. TomTomPing. Game: WoW. Baaras (Manager/Author). Updated: 7 days ago
17:38.05NeoTronmust say PingDirection was better
17:38.36NivFreakNeoTron: I'm more intereted in it pointing at my target or focus
17:38.36PrimerNivFreak: Does TomTomPing track players?
17:38.40NivFreakPrimer: yes
17:38.43Primerdamn
17:38.49NivFreakPrimer: and has some support for DBM, to make run away from X arrows
17:39.01Primerheh
17:39.21Primerguess I should just give up then
17:39.22NivFreaknot sure how useful that is
17:39.29NivFreakbut it's interesting
17:39.34NivFreakI haven't tried yours yet :)
17:39.37steevwut?
17:39.43steevno runaway arrows for overload?
17:40.00NivFreakthat's not running away from a player?
17:40.17PrimerNivFreak: well, I tailored mine to work for how I heal on my priest
17:40.43Primersince I use mouseover macros, I added a slashcommand to my addon
17:40.43NivFreakyea, I was really just looking for something to help out my disc priest while he's chasing me around on p2 yogg
17:40.47steevdunno, we have the player(s) with the debuffs move, not the other way around
17:40.58NivFreakPrimer: he has that too ;)
17:40.59PrimerWhich pops up the arrow when a player ranges me
17:41.03NivFreakahh
17:41.04NivFreakthat's cool
17:41.05steevvoid zones go to the left, light bombs go to the right
17:41.12NivFreaksteev: yep
17:41.18NivFreaksteev: like I said, probably not useful
17:41.29PrimerNivFreak: well, he posted a message to my addon saying he was planning the features when he found mine
17:41.32NivFreakPrimer: do you setup multiple arrows then?
17:41.41PrimerI presumed he wasn't going to follow through, but I guess I was wrong
17:41.42Primerno
17:41.49PrimerI just hijack the tomtom arrow
17:42.02NivFreakyou can create multiple arrows via tomtom right?
17:42.08PrimerI have no idea
17:42.11NivFreakhaha
17:42.23NivFreakI see shit like tourguide and lightheaded both using thier own crazy arrow
17:42.27NivFreaknot sure if that's via tomtom or not
17:42.59Stanzilla_tomtom
17:43.11PrimerI'm guessing they either use tomtom or just ripped the tomtom code
17:43.19PrimerI know QuestHelper rips the tomtom code
17:43.28NivFreakPrimer: it's kind of a neat idea to have multiple arrows to all the units you mouseover out of range
17:43.40NivFreakquesthelper uses tomtom last i checked
17:44.14Primerit _did_
17:44.21Primerbut now it has its own standalone arrow
17:44.31NivFreakwell, it can do either right?
17:44.35Primerwhich is tomtom
17:44.37Primeryes
17:45.00PrimerAnyhow, I guess I'll have to look at TomTomPing
17:45.13NivFreakso, I reinstalled all my addons embedded because I'm going to do a binary search of them to find my performance issue
17:45.15Primerperhaps I'll just discontinue my project if he's just replicating what I've done
17:45.17NivFreakand as a result
17:45.30NivFreakI can't configure pitbull3/grid or anything else that uses that same config system
17:45.35Primerbecause i know I was first :)
17:45.38NivFreakthe top level config entry won't expand
17:45.44NivFreakand also pitbull3 won't show my MT frames
17:45.50NivFreakwhich is all I use it for
17:45.53NivFreakno LUA errors
17:45.55krkaNivFreak: Lua is actually a portuguese word and it means "moon" ;-)
17:46.24PrimerPB3 has been getting more and more flakey for me
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17:46.24NivFreakwell, I'm going to cut out pb3 tonight
17:46.24Primerkrka: we all know this
17:46.31ckknightuse PB4
17:46.34Primer<-- Speaks fluent Portuguese, btw
17:46.34NivFreakckknight: I might
17:46.47ckknights/might/will/
17:46.47NivFreakckknight: I only use it for focus/pet/MTs atm, so I might try something lighter
17:46.53ckknightNivFreak: try PB4.
17:46.56NivFreakok :P
17:47.12NivFreakI don't even use auras on those frames
17:47.31ckknightk
17:47.57NivFreakI just need health/energy bars, and I still like portraits for MT frames (not sure why really)
17:48.01NivFreakoh, and cast bars
17:48.06NivFreakon the focus frame
17:48.20NivFreakI should probably just let quartz do that
17:48.37krkaNivFreak: apparently everyone but you knew it, since you wrote lua in upper case
17:48.55NivFreakkrka: it's habit, I know it's wrong, I also don't care
17:49.01Primerit seems the TomTomPing guy has WAY more time to work on addons than I do :(
17:49.16NivFreakPrimer: he only has 1 addon it looks like
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17:49.32PrimerGuess I'll just discontinue my addon
17:49.36NivFreakkrka: I write loops in python too, run for the hills!
17:49.37Primerand link to his
17:49.54NivFreakcheck his code quality first, maybe we should want yours? :)
17:50.09Primerheh, check _my_ code quality :)
17:50.52PrimerI think I actually did a pretty good job with FlightHUD
17:50.52FiskerNew Mount: A new Argent Crusade paladin-only charger will be available.
17:50.56NeoTronlUA
17:50.58Primerno other addon is like it
17:50.59ckknightFisker: link
17:51.13Primerand FriendlyArrow has minimal code
17:51.33NivFreakI haven't tried flighthud
17:51.44Fisker<PROTECTED>
17:51.49Fiskeri hate you btw ckknight :(
17:52.55PrimerNivFreak: while I find it useful, it's really just eye candy
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17:53.08PrimerI have videos of it on my project page
17:54.57sztanpetShefki is it possible for maintank changes to show up in combat?
17:56.21Gnarfozanyone have an idea what today's yogg tentacle change is supposed to be about?
17:56.53durcynGnarfoz: the stacking damage debuff is no longer procced by pet attacks, pretty simple if you ask me =P
17:56.53PrimerYes, it now seeks female raid members and...well...you get the idea
17:56.59Gnarfozthat much is obvious
17:57.08Gnarfozbut how does that benefit anyone
17:57.22Gnarfoz(it's obviously supposed to be a nerf, but I don't see how it's relevant)
17:57.22durcynit benefits tanks that interrupt diminish power, that's about it
17:57.34durcynanyone seriously trying to use melee to kill crushers has other problems
17:57.35Gnarfozwell, pretty minor then
17:57.36NivFreakdon't ranged attacks stack the debuff anyway?
17:57.41Gnarfozthey do
17:57.43durcynonly dd, not dots
17:57.47NivFreakright
17:57.52NivFreakbut so this seems like a dumb change
17:57.54Gnarfozwell, hunters get off quite some attacks
17:58.01durcynit's ultimately pointless, yes
17:58.03GnarfozI regularily see crushers at 99 stacks
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17:58.06stolenlegacyPrimer: lmao
17:58.09durcynsince melee pets are instagibbed anyway
17:58.21durcynwell, you can stop direct damage for like 5 seconds and it'll fall off
17:58.32NivFreakor you can just use a druid
17:58.35durcynwhich lets your tank interrupt diminish without worrying about dying
17:58.40GnarfozI'd be more interested in how many people are necessary in which radius for how long to make a tentacle use "Crush"
17:58.45NivFreakand have him swipe from outside melee range
17:58.46BelazorNew Mount: A new Argent Crusade paladin-only charger will be available.  <-- holy shit
17:58.51durcynbut we use a death knight for that anyway, and IBF > crusher tentacles
18:00.06GnarfozBelazor: nerf paladins, obviously
18:00.29Belazorno u :(
18:01.26NivFreakI love that blizzard is just now up to the end of TBC content on thier game guide
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18:16.38Shefkisztanpet: From oRA2?
18:16.45sztanpetnah
18:16.54sztanpetbliz mts
18:16.54Shefkisztanpet: From the Blizzard MT stuff?
18:16.57sztanpetyea
18:16.58ShefkiIt should already.
18:17.34ShefkiWe're not really in control of that though.
18:17.34sztanpetit didnt for me though
18:17.45sztanpetoh well, not that big of a deal
18:17.45ShefkiThat's implemented in Blizzard code.
18:17.52sztanpetah okay
18:18.08ShefkiThere are a lot of limitations on changing units in combat.
18:18.32ShefkiTo stop you from basically recreating Decursive.
18:20.09NivFreakcome now, spamming the same button for 10 minutes is fun
18:20.28pentium166you mean playing a holy paladin?
18:20.32NivFreakgogo chromaggus
18:20.48NivFreakpentium166: maybe in TBC :)
18:24.46NivFreakmidsummer fire festive starts sunday, I hate this holiday
18:24.54NivFreakfestival
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18:25.36pentium166world tour tiem
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18:31.43NivFreakso I tried out the DBM spell timers mod last night, just in a 10man
18:31.53NivFreakit doesn't seem to require that others have it installed?
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18:32.06NeoTronsuch an addon typically wouldn't nowadays
18:32.11NeoTronwith the new and improved combat log
18:32.16NivFreakwell
18:32.21NivFreakyou still need to know talents and glyphs
18:32.23NivFreakto get timers right
18:32.44NeoTronglyphs? what glyphs affects spells of interest?
18:32.51Fiskerhello NeoTron
18:33.05NivFreakNeoTron: shieldwall/last stand
18:33.31NivFreakguadian spirit
18:33.37NivFreakI think there are a few others
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18:41.41steevspeaking of guardian spirit - thats the priestly one yeah?
18:43.05Pneumatusyz
18:43.11Pneumatus51 point holy
18:44.32steevdoes that work on steelbreaker hardmode against his melt-tank-face debuff?
18:44.39Pneumatusnop
18:45.46steevdamn
18:46.05durcynGS doesn't protect against SPELL_INSTAKILL
18:46.08steevah well, was worth a shot, we normally do it with 2 brez's available anyway (in 10)
18:46.31steevand also prevents the target from dying by sacrificing itself.
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18:46.51steevwould figure that it didn't matter what the "killing blow" was from
18:46.54Stanzilla_can someone confirm that the bigwigs vezax module has the wrong number for mark of the faceless duration?
18:47.04Stanzilla_it's 1 second too short imo
18:47.36durcynit's ten seconds
18:48.01Stanzilla_but the bar disappears too early
18:48.19Stanzilla_so our idiots are running back into the camp with mark still on -.-
18:48.19durcynit's a ten second debuff and a ten second bar, not sure what you're on about
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18:49.18steevum
18:49.36steevno addon can stop stupidity
18:49.38steevim just sayin
18:49.48stolenlegacy*cough*mimiron barrage*cough*
18:50.00stolenlegacyconstantly losing 2 dps each barrage
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18:54.21Fiskerso appears they're banning people who complete Flame Leviathan with like 4 people etc. now
18:55.49Fiskerlooks like they read from my book about consistency
18:55.49pentium166hotfix: flame leviathan now does 9001% damage if you start the encounter with less than half of your raid size
18:55.52stolenlegacyorly?
18:56.58pentium166please enlighten me on your book about consistency, Fisker
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19:02.35AckisWorkpentium166: it has a lot of pictures and no words longer than 4 characters
19:04.42pentium166that's my kind of book
19:07.09Pneumatusdoes sanctury stack with grace or renewed hope for damage reduction?
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19:13.09BrunersRecount vs skada?
19:13.38FiskerSkada
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19:15.25stolenlegacyam i the only one that hates leveling 1-58?
19:15.32Brunersyep
19:15.42stolenlegacysometimes i think blizzard does that to force us into dualboxing RaF
19:15.59stolenlegacywhich actually is exactly what i'm doing right now
19:16.00Bruners1-58 is a laugh now
19:16.10stolenlegacyyeah, but boring as hell
19:16.18stolenlegacyfar too little quests
19:16.25stolenlegacyeven WITH raf i find myself running out of quests
19:16.26Xinhuanhmm.
19:16.53stolenlegacywell, i probably don't do every zone available to me
19:16.55stolenlegacyi hate some
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19:17.05Brunersdesolace ><
19:17.11stolenlegacyferalas ;)
19:17.28stolenlegacyoh well, doing felwood now
19:17.37stolenlegacyone of the few zones that actually have a bunch of nice-xp quests
19:17.49stolenlegacykilling l54 mobs as a 49 takes some time
19:18.03stolenlegacyeven if i've got effectively 1.#INF health due to the holy pala behind me
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19:19.22BrunersRaF while boosting with a level 80 = win
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19:41.20VonhintenHOME`It's seriously worth the $20 to use RaF and get 60 quickly (on 2 toons even)
19:41.59tamarothyou need to live in civilized country first
19:42.07tamarothi don't, so i cannot have raf ;(
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19:43.49stolenlegacyBruners: well, tried to get my classmate to boost me
19:44.06stolenlegacyended up paying 5k in repair bills for 1-40
19:44.09stolenlegacyoh well
19:44.34Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2109 / (4 files in 2 directories):
19:44.35stolenlegacyi'm going to sleep, see you tomorrow guys
19:44.37RepoWrite a dataminer using data-tools to get a comprehensive listing of all recipes which are learnt from an item.  Update the ARL internal database for this.
19:44.43stolenlegacyjust hit 50 with both chars ^.^
19:44.47Xinhuanso
19:44.52Xinhuanfreya+3 zerg nerfed pretty quickly
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19:49.18NeoTronvery much so
19:49.20NeoTronsame day
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19:52.25aestilanyone kill or attempting hard mode mimiron yet?
19:52.35aestil[that is online in the channel right now]
19:53.27Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2110 ARLDatamine.lua:
19:53.30RepoConvert the PrintScanResults into using a table to store output and returning the table.concat of it.
19:57.23aestilthere is some discussion in guild that Mimiron hard mode is as hard as M'uru pre nerf.
19:57.30aestilwhich i just can't even believe is possible.
19:57.42Shinjait is
19:57.59aestilyou killed m'uru prenerf?
19:58.10Shinjain may 2008
19:58.43aestilWow.  thats crazy.
19:59.20aestilI got the impression from blizzard that the hard modes in Ulduar would be about as difficult as ssc/TK [which is actually pretty difficult if you're talking about leo pre nerf, or kael pre nerf, or vashj pre nerf]
19:59.23Fiskerhey Gnarfoz
19:59.23Fiskerfuck you
19:59.24Fisker:3
19:59.27Fiskerwe killed yogg
19:59.39Shinjasome HM are plain joke
19:59.48Shinjalike Hodir and Thorim
19:59.52aestilwell, yeah, hodir and thorim
19:59.54aestileasy sauce
19:59.55ShinjaFreya is much harder
20:00.03aestilfreya is a bit harder than sarth3d?
20:00.03Shinjaand Mimiron outch
20:00.23Shinjait depend when :s
20:00.31Shinjain december Sarth was hard
20:00.45Shinjafreya is a nice fight
20:00.51Shinjawell tuned
20:00.53aestilwe started raiding in december.  killed it in jan
20:01.07Shinjait's a nice shoot =)
20:01.20aestilyou killed mimiron already then?
20:01.48aestilm'uru was the hardest fight we ever did.
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20:01.48Shinjawe'ra late ;s
20:02.00Shinjaonly reach P3, we have killed freya only 3 weaks ago ;s
20:02.02aestilwe cleared everythign up to m'uru and it was by far the hardest encounter I've ever seen
20:02.11aestilexcept maybe C'thun, pre nerf
20:02.28aestilthats awesome chief, we havn't killed freya +1 yet :)
20:02.31ShinjaKJ was a little bit easier (because you learn so much with u'ru)
20:02.36aestil11 raid hours a week.
20:02.48aestilthats what I hear, but 3.0 nerf came in.
20:02.53aestilso all i know is how hard m'uru was.
20:02.59Shinjabut a very nice fight to (24th world we did, 10 june 2008)
20:03.45aestilwhats funny, is that the yogg nerf is just a good idea, and it was previously bad design to me.
20:03.51sb|workis sartharion 3d 'fixed'?
20:03.52aestilthe MC thing into the clouds of spawn more shit.
20:03.57sb|workis it possible to kill him without killing adds?
20:04.49durcynsb|work: what, just burning him?  still works, i think
20:05.13aestilI'm not sure what you mean sb|work.
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20:05.48Shinjazerg mode is still doable :s
20:05.54ShinjaI've never made it
20:06.10aestilShinja: do you do runemaster second on IC hard?
20:06.23Shinjano no
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20:06.40Shinjai've won tonight the disc ;p
20:06.44aestildoesn't he leave the 50% dps buff up for a few seconds?
20:06.45sb|workShinja: mh...
20:06.47sb|workokay
20:06.57durcynrunemaster 2nd lets you use a rune of power on steelbreaker, yes
20:07.02durcynspeeds p3 up considerably
20:07.10Shinjathe only dangerous thing is the elemental pop
20:07.15aestilP3 being the soft enrage thing?
20:07.25aestilI think we are going to do 2 tanks, with 1 Brez
20:07.26Shinjaelem explode hard !
20:07.32durcynwhat elemental pop?  that's runemaster p3
20:07.48durcynhe's talking about steelbreaker p3
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20:08.51aestilwe seem really close on IC steelbreaker last.
20:09.08aestiland have made some good progress on freya +2
20:09.31aestilwe left up earthquakes and elemental+25% damage gaurdians
20:09.37aestilseemed to make progress.
20:10.01aestilI don't know why, but no one could convice the raid leader to go for Freya+1 first.  He seems hellbent on learning Freya+2
20:10.44ShinjaFreya +1 is not really a big gap between no add
20:10.56Shinjayou learn much more with 2
20:11.12aestilwell, yeah, but freya +1 is something.  I think I would have done roots.
20:11.26aestilsince that mechanic is obviously encounter changing
20:16.10aestilthe othe rgood alliance guild on my server raids at least 4 hours a night at least 5 nights a week, [ i think its closer to 5 hours a night 6 nights a week]
20:16.24aestilthey have yet to get 'cache was rare'
20:16.29aestilits sorta embarassing.
20:19.13durcynhodir's pretty straightforward at 3 minutes
20:19.26durcynwe accidentally did it without heroism a few weeks ago >_>
20:21.43ShefkiAs long as you free the NPCs properly and don't fail at getting the buffs it's pretty easy.
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20:27.14GnarfozFisker: fuck YOU :<<<
20:27.18GnarfozFisker: what did you optimize
20:31.08Fiskerwe went batshits insane
20:31.15Fiskertook him to P3 in 2 portals
20:31.23Fiskerhad melee go batshit insane on adds and the boss
20:31.36Fiskerthen at around 7% we offtanked the rest and zerged him
20:32.48aestilhodir is pretty easy, i think we only free the mages, and then they do the rest of the work for us.
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20:53.04durcynyeah, fixing melee portals and dps positions in the brain room is the only way to win correctly
20:53.16durcynwe went from like 15 seconds on the brain to 30-40 depending on the vision
20:55.16TristanianI thought everyone did that :s
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20:59.12durcynyou did it perfectly on your first kill, Tristanian?  i'm talking about for hard mode :/
20:59.34Shefkidurcyn: The fight is trivial if you get 40 second stuns.
20:59.39ShefkiIt's horrible with less than that.
20:59.47durcynexactly.
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21:00.03Shefkiwe have 2 10 man groups.
21:00.09ShefkiOne did 1 light trivially easy.
21:00.12durcyni'm talking about 25
21:00.18Tristaniandefine hard mode :P
21:00.32Tristanianfor me it means 0 or 1 guardian
21:00.32durcyn10's a godamn joke even if you fuck up the brain room
21:00.32Tristanianwe went fine on portals, we juck lacked the DPS
21:00.32durcynTristanian: yes
21:00.32ShefkiWe merged some groups to help the people in the other group get stuff.
21:00.33Fiskeryeah
21:00.42Fisker25-man was hard even when we got good portals
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21:00.47Tristanianits always screwed when we bring new people
21:00.47ShefkiIn the process we ended up with a group that had mostly 2H melee dps.
21:00.48Fiskerwe did yogg with 2 portals
21:00.58ShefkiIt was absoultely horrid.
21:00.59Fiskerbut still only had about 40 seconds left on berserk
21:01.02TristanianI had to convince the officers not to bring new people :P
21:01.58Tristaniandoesn't matter anyway, afaik he is not possible with 0 guardians
21:02.06Tristanianthe adds in p3 heal more than intended or something
21:02.09Tristanianstill unsure though
21:02.20Fiskerthe adds in p3 can't die without thorim i think
21:02.25Tristanianthey cant no
21:02.30Tristanianyou just offtank them
21:02.36Fiskerlolwut?
21:02.38Tristanianand get them as smaller as possible
21:02.44Tristanianyes Fisker its not a joke
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21:02.48Tristanianyou still DPS them
21:02.57Tristanianthen leave them to the tank while you switch to the boss
21:03.11Fiskerwhat about the heal then?
21:03.17Tristanianthats the problem atm
21:03.18Fiskerjust taunt out the one with the debuff?
21:03.25Fiskeroh
21:03.44Tristanianlike I said not really sure, the general consensus atm is that you just have to outdps it :P
21:03.53Megalonevery mob in range gets the debuff
21:04.11Tristanianand with shit sanity at the point
21:04.16Tristanianits even more dangerous
21:04.24Fiskernaw Megalon
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21:04.30Fiskeronly one get the debuff
21:04.40Fiskerand then it spreads when it ticks out
21:06.10Tristanianmore interested in Observed atm than that, if there is something not intended with the debuff they will fix it a some point
21:08.23Fiskerso lots of new SC2 information next week
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21:12.45durcynyou can't kill them without thorim, is the thing, and the heal is nuts with more than 1-2 up
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21:17.49Repo10querier: 03Ackis 07master * v1.72-2-g2100331 Querier.lua: [+2 commits]
21:17.52Repo2100331: Add /safequery as a slash command for the new function.
21:17.55Repoe8a06b4: Add a function called SafeQuery which will load all safe items into your cache. Safe items currently are defined as items availible off of reputation vendors.  We have all of the BC ones right now.
21:17.56NivFreakholy shit
21:18.05NivFreakI have to do tourney dailies now =(
21:18.09AckisWorkowned
21:18.13NivFreakAn Upgraded Squire: As any good squire should, this upgraded squire now has a mount and can be called forth every eight hours for three minutes of duty. The upgrade cost is 150 Champion Seals and your squire will also offer one of three services: bank, mail, or vendor access.
21:18.25NivFreakremote bank? wow...
21:18.59Belazoronly prob is the cd
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21:20.24AckisWorkone of 3 services?
21:20.32AckisWorkie: he only does one?
21:20.45durcynthere's probably a chat dialog to choose one after you spawn him
21:20.46NivFreaksounds like it
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21:20.59NivFreakbut hey, cooldown or not
21:21.01NivFreakit's more than you had
21:21.08Belazortru.dat
21:21.12NivFreakand I'd love to have it for swapping gear before a couple fights ;)\
21:21.24NivFreaka handful of people in raid with them, and you're set
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21:23.57Belazorcourse that involves getting a handful of people to do jousting
21:27.13AckisWorkanyone from atlasloot team hang out here/
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21:30.02NivFreakoh man
21:30.07NivFreakthe squire will only work for you
21:30.07NivFreakbooo
21:30.12NivFreakok, that CD is lame then
21:30.38steevbleh
21:30.46steevi can't get the it6 rotation down
21:34.36aestilFisker: plox link for the sc2 info?
21:35.10nicoli_sfisker is always saying sc2 is out or just about to come out
21:35.21Fiskeraestil it was removed because blizzard is pussies
21:35.47aestilFisker: i want a beta key. make it so.
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21:38.37durcynFisker
21:38.42durcynhey Fisker
21:38.52durcyni have an email from blizzard on my iphone just now, about an sc2 beta key
21:38.55durcynwanna touch it?
21:39.06steevyes plx
21:39.15durcynno, it's only for Fisker
21:39.18steev:(
21:39.32steevoh you were talkin about an sc2 beta key
21:39.33steevnevermind
21:40.06durcynyou, sir, have a filthy mind
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21:40.46steevi look at porn all day for work, what do you expect?
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21:41.12aestilsteev: that sounds like a really shitty job : /
21:41.22steevits got its ups and downs
21:41.27steevtranny day sucks
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21:41.31steevanime day sucks
21:41.47steevgranny day sucks (fisker's fav though)
21:41.48aestiljesus christ, thats even worse than I imagined.
21:41.56aestilwtf kind of job is this?
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21:42.04ckknightlol, steev, looking for imperfections or something along those lines?
21:42.04aestiland also, give me your beta key.
21:42.04steevi work for a company that does content filtering
21:42.05NivFreakbrowsing porn at work is just a strange habit
21:42.09ckknightah
21:42.15NivFreakis sc2 beta up?
21:42.20nicoli_sno
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21:42.42durcynit's up for everyone notfisker
21:42.52aestiland there still is no news on blizzards next MMO right?
21:42.54durcyna good day to be notfisker
21:43.04aestillike what genre or 'universe' it will take place in?
21:43.13ckknightevery day is a good day to be notfisker
21:43.16durcynit's supposed to be an entirely new franchise, aestil
21:43.35durcynbeyond that, nothing's been said
21:43.38aestili hate that
21:43.55durcynyou in some kind of hurry?
21:44.04aestilalthough, i've never been able to find the link with the blizz representive saying that
21:44.12aestildurcyn: @ me?
21:44.51nicoli_stheyve said it multiple times aestil
21:45.00Repo10querier: 03Ackis 07master * v1.72-9-g3bcc831 / (14 files in 3 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated)
21:45.03aestili believe it, just not seen the copy on it.
21:45.04Repo3bcc831: Start the api stuff.
21:45.06Repo3d4aa53: Add localization support.
21:45.09Repo7fd3c3f: Make the no-embedded version work better with no-lib-strip.
21:45.12Repo3fbeea0: Update .toc
21:46.16Repo10querier: 03Ackis 07master * v1.72-10-g0f984bd Querier.lua: [+1 commit] Fix autodoc typo.
21:47.20durcynaestil: yeah, you.
21:47.37aestilI let my sub to WoW lapse
21:47.49aestilso yeah, i'm probably ready for soemthing else if it was good.
21:48.02durcynhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16903519279&postId=169024684459&sid=1#20
21:48.30durcyntowards the end
21:48.42durcynWe have nothing to advertise for the new MMO because it's a shell of a game thus far. We've already stated it'll be a brand new franchise
21:48.46durcynetc
21:48.48Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2112 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix autodoc entries.
21:48.58aestilawesome thank you.
21:49.12aestilits a good idea, to a certain extent, they get screwed over with lore that has a history
21:49.16aestilpeople qq over it.
21:49.26aestilso this way, they can build up the lore 'correctly'
21:51.34Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2113 AckisRecipeList.lua: Update docs.
21:56.25Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2114 AckisRecipeList.lua:
21:56.28RepoRedo main file comments somewhat, everything that was a description now is luadoced.
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22:01.12Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r2115 AckisRecipeList.lua: Some doc updates again.
22:03.20Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2116 / (5 files in 2 directories): added missing Blacksmithing trainer data, Tickets 668, 667
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22:03.35Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.113 * r255 : RaidBuffStatus:
22:03.38Repo- Tagged as stable.
22:08.11NivFreakAckisWork: I'm still amazed how much ARL changes :)
22:08.18Repo10querier: 03Ackis 041.63 *  /: [TAG DELETED]
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22:08.31BWMerlin@decribe querier
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22:08.41BWMerlin@describe querier
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22:08.50RepoBWMerlin: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/querier/. Querier. What it does Querier is a small addon which will allow you to get Item and Spell links based off of ItemID or SpellID. There is basic error checking to ensure that you do not get disconnected. Where...
22:09.13AckisWorkNivFreak: it's just that there's so much data to be added, in 3.1 they added a bunch of trainers and we're still catching up on that
22:09.22NivFreakahh
22:10.20Repo10querier: 03Ackis 07master * v1.72-11-g63c3ece Querier.lua: [+1 commit] Make something localized. W00t
22:10.37AckisWorkfyi only reason I'm deleting those tags is because they give an error in the packager
22:11.27BWMerlinthe new dataminer helps heaps on getting that trainer info
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22:11.39GnarfozI always wonder
22:11.46AckisWorkBWMerlin: have you tried the tooltip scanner yet?
22:11.50Gnarfozif Querier is a *simple* addon for what it does
22:11.57Gnarfozthen what would you call Sniff?
22:11.58Gnarfoz:D
22:12.10AckisWork@project sniff
22:12.11RepoAckisWork: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/project-14674/. Sniff. Game: WoW. Nymbia (Manager/Author). Updated: 260 days ago
22:12.14Gnarfoz<Fisker> took him to P3 in 2 portals <-- wtf? on 25man? that's like... exploiting or something
22:12.43GnarfozAckis: it's basically just "/item <itemid>" or "/item <from itemid> <to itemid>" :D
22:12.51AckisWorkGnarfoz: querier goes above and beyond sniff now, it's not as simple as it once was
22:13.04Gnarfozcould probably be easliy extended to do Spell Links, too, and it'd still be very "basic" :D
22:13.12AckisWorkaye
22:13.14Gnarfozyeah just yanking your chain as usual, hehe
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22:13.30AckisWorkquerier also has some functionality in it to say "hey you've querierd a bunch of items, lets stop it now kk?"
22:13.42AckisWorkand today I just added in some "safescanning" abilities
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22:16.38Repo10querier: 03Ackis 07master * v1.72-12-gea94fdb local.xml: [+1 commit] Forgot to add local.xml.
22:17.06AckisWorkthe safe scanning isn't foolproof yet, but the idea is to load your cache with as many safe items as possible, ie: items from vendors, reputation vendors, tokens, etc
22:19.15AckisWorkand thanks for linking sniff :( I miss nymbia :(
22:19.37AckisWork~rlart
22:19.37purldeclares Pneumatus a moron
22:19.55AckisWorkTuller: ping
22:20.02Groktar~rlart
22:20.03purlcalls echos on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home
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22:20.12TullerAckisWork: ?
22:20.21Stanzilla_~wowalert
22:20.21purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
22:20.23AckisWorkTuller: did you get a PM from me on wowace at all?
22:20.25Groktar~lart Tuller
22:20.25purlpulls out his louisville slugger and uses Tuller's head to break the homerun record
22:21.03Tulleri'm not sure there would be any performance issues :P
22:21.26Tulleryou can load a second module with them, load them on demand, whatever :P
22:21.42AckisWork*nod* ok, was thinking of adding "gear sets" to it :P
22:21.49AckisWork(ps approved bagnon for you on CF)
22:21.55Tullerhurray
22:21.57Repo10track-o-matique: 03StingerSoft * r69 locale.ruRU.lua: ruRU update
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22:23.19BWMerlinAckisWork no i havent tried the tooltip scanning
22:23.53AckisWorkBWMerlin: type: /script AckisRecipeList:ScanProfession("first aid")
22:25.33BWMerlink
22:28.53AckisWorkBWMerlin: basically what it does is goes through, and scans the spell tooltip for all the recipes in the db for that profession, then if the item is learnt from an item (aka recipe) it'll scan that tooltip if you have it in your cache already
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22:29.29NivFreakpurl: seen pastamancer
22:29.30purlpastamancer is currently on #curseforge (29d 6h 44m 26s). Has said a total of 16 messages. Is idling for 2h 46m 4s, last said: 'that's half the battle already'.
22:29.43NivFreak#wowace isn't hip enough anymore?
22:30.30AckisWorkaye
22:30.44NivFreakI'm in too many channels on too many networks
22:31.18AckisWorkwant to join 1 more? :D
22:31.21NivFreakhaha
22:31.40NivFreakI actually spawned a second client for gamesurge
22:31.47NivFreakI'm not really sure why...
22:32.03AckisWork~arl
22:32.03purlrumour has it, arl is a poorly named add-on, developed by Ackis.  It will scan your recipes and tell you which are missing, where to acquire them from (vendor, trainer, etc) and what skill level they are.  Join #arl for more information.
22:32.13AckisWorkkekeke
22:32.19NivFreakI guess because EJ people talk too much, and it's distracting while I'm at work
22:32.30NivFreakha
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22:34.27AckisWorkNivFreak: if Fix is on the EJ forum tell him I say hi, I'm about to head out however
22:34.45NivFreak*o* fix[st]adventure [~fixtothem@fixtothemax.is.protected]
22:34.52NivFreak*o*  idle     : 0 days 0 hours 51 mins 19 secs [signon: Mon Jun 15 00:08:41
22:35.04NivFreak;)
22:35.21aestilso i'm using win7
22:35.36aestili print to a printer attached to a winxp machine
22:35.51aestilwhen I print pdf's they go over and it takes an incredibly long time to print
22:36.00aestilshould things be printing in 'raw' format?
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23:32.40Repodivide font options in inline groups
23:32.44Repooptimize core module
23:32.48Repoadd zone sorting by max level
23:32.52Repoadd quest sorting by weighted level then quest name
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23:39.30Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r145 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix two local errors
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23:46.28mitchnullerm, how does one measure the "load time" of an addon?
23:46.48mitchnullI got  a report that RangeDisplay "consistently takes 2.1 secs to load"
23:50.54Gnarfozprobably using inaccurate and outdated mods like Warmup
23:50.54Gnarfoz:D
23:52.24ObelixprimeIs there a way to measure CPU time for addons?
23:53.09Gnarfozsure
23:53.13GnarfozCPU profiling
23:53.15Gnarfozlook it up :>
23:53.17Obelixprimeah!
23:53.19Obelixprimethat's the word
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23:55.40Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1016 / (2 files in 2 directories):
23:55.43Repo- Added some code to shaman module to make sure string_match doesn't error if the actionbar addon for some reason won't return a rank for mana spring totem
23:58.07mitchnullI see 3.6 ms for RangeDisplay and 1.7 ms for LibRangeCheck on startup....
23:58.28mitchnulloh well

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