| 00:01.21 | Pneumatus | ckknight: are todays points calculated on the new points pool, or tomorrow? |
| 00:01.32 | ckknight | today, it's the first |
| 00:01.41 | ckknight | it's done on a month-by-month basis |
| 00:01.52 | ckknight | I'm running the generator now |
| 00:02.04 | ckknight | the generator will also run in 16 hours from now |
| 00:02.12 | ckknight | i.e. 8 hours late today |
| 00:02.35 | Pneumatus | so the one in 16 hours time will be the first one after recalculation? |
| 00:02.44 | ckknight | no |
| 00:02.50 | ckknight | the one I'm running now is |
| 00:03.10 | Pneumatus | ah, not had an update yet today |
| 00:03.28 | ckknight | and done |
| 00:03.30 | Pneumatus | 330 points last month, just enough for a £10 vouncher :o |
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| 00:06.29 | NivFreak | EJ forums fucked? |
| 00:07.44 | Pneumatus | ckknight: when points -> real money is implemented will it be at the same rate as giftcards, or less, or unknown? |
| 00:07.55 | ckknight | afaik, same rate |
| 00:08.00 | ckknight | but only to people above a certain amount |
| 00:08.12 | Xinhuan | ckknight, uploading a profile picture doesn't give an error anymore on beta site, but the /home/ still shows the black horse |
| 00:08.21 | ckknight | Xinhuan: okay, lemme look into it. |
| 00:08.35 | ckknight | refresh? |
| 00:08.36 | ckknight | I see a sheep. |
| 00:08.37 | Xinhuan | also, it took me a while to figure out how to navigate to /home/ |
| 00:08.45 | ckknight | wait |
| 00:08.46 | Xinhuan | (clicking on "Hi Xinhuan!" |
| 00:08.54 | ckknight | yea |
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| 00:08.59 | ckknight | I see a sheep |
| 00:09.15 | Xinhuan | the main site has a "My WowAce" link next to "Store" |
| 00:09.21 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 00:09.47 | Xinhuan | hmm, i'm still seeing the horse |
| 00:09.54 | ckknight | hmm |
| 00:10.04 | ckknight | I'll dig into the code a bit |
| 00:13.27 | nicoli_s | wow the woman on tv just got hit in the head with railroad tie |
| 00:14.03 | Wobin | nicoli_s: intentionally? |
| 00:14.13 | nicoli_s | "accidentally" by her husband |
| 00:18.19 | Wobin | "Whoops"? |
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| 00:21.08 | Belazor | do users actually know what LDB is these days? |
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| 00:23.06 | Xinhuan | ckknight, another thing seems to be that the upper right corner says "Hi Xinhuan!" on every page, but the main http://beta.wowace.com/ page just says "Hi!" without the name |
| 00:23.27 | quiescens | Hi Xinhuan! |
| 00:27.58 | ckknight | that's odd |
| 00:28.09 | ckknight | also: I just saw the Curse Client 4.0 install 200 addons in less than a minute |
| 00:28.14 | ckknight | with full UI responsiveness |
| 00:28.44 | Torhal | ckknight: Gimmeh. |
| 00:31.31 | ckknight | Torhal: have you been a good boy? |
| 00:31.41 | Hjalte | ckknight: Woah, that's not bad. |
| 00:32.04 | ckknight | yea, the new one is really, really nice |
| 00:32.20 | ckknight | speedy, responsive, and UI is a lot nicer |
| 00:32.27 | ckknight | and more customizeable |
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| 00:49.10 | Torhal | ckknight: Is that rhetorical? |
| 00:49.24 | ckknight | yes, it's not for public testing yet |
| 00:49.30 | ckknight | I'll put you down as an alpha tester, though |
| 00:49.31 | Torhal | Thought so! |
| 00:49.36 | Torhal | Ah, noice. |
| 00:49.41 | ckknight | can't give an ETA |
| 01:01.00 | Repo | 10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07master * Beta1.1-1-gc3baf96 Data.lua: [+1 commit] Repackage LibItemBonus-2.0 for weapon chain bonus fix. Also test the new @do-not-package@ packager tag. |
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| 01:02.39 | ckknight | do we have any artists here (or as you kids say "in the hizzy")? |
| 01:03.15 | Hjalte | We need a contest imo. Draw a horse! |
| 01:03.21 | ckknight | actually I might do this as a contest |
| 01:04.01 | Xinhuan | artist? |
| 01:04.01 | ckknight | basically: we want icons for every category |
| 01:04.15 | Xinhuan | how many categories are there |
| 01:04.16 | ckknight | http://beta.wowace.com/categories/ |
| 01:04.27 | ckknight | obviously the class ones wouldn't need to be done |
| 01:04.31 | ckknight | nor the professions |
| 01:05.07 | ckknight | we might even be willing to provide real monies for the service of making these icons |
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| 01:05.35 | Xinhuan | ok @do-not-package@ works, it replaces everything between (including start/end tags) with a blank line |
| 01:05.54 | ckknight | actually replaces with '', it's just that it doesn't strip the \n after the end tag |
| 01:06.06 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 01:06.06 | ckknight | and I don't wanna get too sophisticated, so that's fine |
| 01:06.31 | Xinhuan | probablythe easiest tag ever to implement |
| 01:06.43 | ckknight | it's an re.sub |
| 01:06.44 | ckknight | :P |
| 01:07.09 | Pneumatus | ckknight: wtb primary and secondary group selections for the new wowace |
| 01:07.18 | ckknight | Pneumatus: what do you mean? |
| 01:07.21 | Pneumatus | or a client that displays multiple categories suitably |
| 01:07.35 | Pneumatus | the 3.0 client only displays the first alphabetical category that an addon is in |
| 01:07.38 | ckknight | hmm |
| 01:07.45 | Pneumatus | yet you can select multiple in the project page |
| 01:07.46 | ckknight | okay, I'll add support for primary categories |
| 01:08.00 | ckknight | we'll make it so the 4.0 client shows that |
| 01:08.03 | Pneumatus | so say you have 1 primary category which the CC shows, then secondary categories which everything else can go in |
| 01:08.07 | ckknight | and that'll be the first one to show on curse and wowace |
| 01:08.13 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 01:08.55 | ckknight | even still, we want (for the new CC) category icons for each category |
| 01:08.58 | ckknight | I also want them for the new wowace |
| 01:09.45 | Pneumatus | like SmartRes for example is a good example of categories showing not the best one, as its listed under all the healer class categories, as well as Healer |
| 01:09.58 | Pneumatus | but the CC shows Druid, as its first alphabetically, when Healer should probably be its primary cat |
| 01:10.02 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:10.12 | ckknight | Pneumatus: do me a favor and file a ticket |
| 01:10.16 | ckknight | I'll mark it as accepted |
| 01:10.20 | ckknight | might be able to get around to this tomorrow |
| 01:11.01 | Xinhuan | @do-not-package@ works in all file types, ckknight? |
| 01:11.03 | Pneumatus | just under cf.com? |
| 01:11.10 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea |
| 01:11.15 | Xinhuan | i'm updating the kb |
| 01:11.15 | ckknight | Pneumatus: ? |
| 01:11.25 | Pneumatus | ckknight: which ticket tracker would you like the ticket filed for? |
| 01:11.26 | ckknight | Xinhuan: thanks |
| 01:11.29 | Pneumatus | *project |
| 01:11.47 | ckknight | @postaticket Pneumatus curseforge |
| 01:11.48 | Repo | ckknight: Please submit a ticket at http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/create-ticket/ for that request, Pneumatus. |
| 01:11.54 | ckknight | there you go |
| 01:12.51 | ckknight | okay, I'm gonna head home |
| 01:12.52 | ckknight | ttyl |
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| 01:13.58 | Aznamir | Hello all |
| 01:14.01 | Aznamir | I wonder if someone could answer my ace2 question |
| 01:14.21 | Aznamir | If I create 2 profiles in my mod, is there a way to switch them from a command line? |
| 01:16.35 | Pneumatus | @ticket curseforge 1480 |
| 01:16.35 | Pneumatus | repo :< |
| 01:16.36 | Repo | Pneumatus: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1480 - Primary & Secondary Categories. Reported by: Pneumatus. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 94 seconds ago. Component: Projects. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Kaelten. Votes: 0. Comments: 0 |
| 01:18.07 | Ackis | http://paste.wowace.com/731/ |
| 01:18.14 | Ackis | what r i doing wrong |
| 01:18.40 | Pneumatus | your returning too early |
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| 01:18.50 | Pneumatus | check out... er... Postal i think |
| 01:18.52 | Ackis | 1 return only? |
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| 01:18.58 | Ackis | @project postal |
| 01:19.00 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/postal/. Postal. Game: WoW. Xinhuan (Manager/Author), grennon (Author). Updated: 33 hours ago |
| 01:19.19 | Pneumatus | pretty sure Xinhuan does his locales all in 1 file |
| 01:19.47 | Xinhuan | Postal has sufficiently few strings that i just put them all in one file |
| 01:19.54 | Xinhuan | all my other addons use 1 file per locale |
| 01:20.18 | Xinhuan | is there a question/problem? |
| 01:20.47 | Xinhuan | you can't do "if not L then return end" |
| 01:20.48 | Pneumatus | nah, ackis is doing it wrong and i seemed to remember you do what he's after in Postal |
| 01:20.48 | Xinhuan | btw ;p |
| 01:21.01 | Xinhuan | you need to do it the other way round |
| 01:21.06 | Pneumatus | yeh, basically you cant return, because L will be nil for any locale other than the current |
| 01:21.08 | Xinhuan | and only return if L is non-nil |
| 01:21.19 | Xinhuan | but always execute the enUS one |
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| 01:22.03 | Xinhuan | here ackis |
| 01:22.04 | Xinhuan | http://paste.wowace.com/732/ |
| 01:22.47 | Ackis | ahh ok tyvm |
| 01:22.54 | Xinhuan | ackis: notice that enUS/enGB always executes, the if L check for it is redundant |
| 01:23.09 | Xinhuan | but it returns immediately if it really is enUS/GB |
| 01:23.18 | Xinhuan | also note esES and esMX are collapsed into one |
| 01:24.19 | Ackis | yah I just spent about 3 hours on this and realized that i'm an idiot |
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| 01:34.34 | Pneumatus | hmm, someone is having a go at rewriting smartres, i was gonna do that :< |
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| 01:34.56 | Pneumatus | oh, its the original author |
| 01:35.23 | Pneumatus | or possibly a new maintainer |
| 01:36.36 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/ by Xinhuan |
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| 01:40.42 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/ by Xinhuan |
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| 01:42.23 | Xinhuan | ckknight, which one can i mess with, test-alpha or test-bravo? |
| 01:42.33 | ckknight | any of the test ones |
| 01:42.38 | ckknight | you want author privs? |
| 01:43.01 | Xinhuan | do i actually need it with mod privs? |
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| 01:43.34 | ckknight | what do you want to do? |
| 01:44.00 | Xinhuan | i want to test out XML @do-not-package@ |
| 01:44.58 | ckknight | test-alpha |
| 01:45.31 | Xinhuan | to see if it strips <!--@do-not-package@ \n blah \n @do-not-package@--> and <!--@do-not-package@--> blah <!--@do-not-package@--> properly |
| 01:45.49 | ckknight | it will only do the latter |
| 01:45.59 | Xinhuan | not the former? |
| 01:46.00 | ckknight | also, @end-do-not-package@ |
| 01:46.03 | ckknight | no, not the former |
| 01:46.09 | ckknight | what's the point of the former? |
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| 01:46.22 | Xinhuan | i suppose u have a point |
| 01:46.44 | Xinhuan | would be just code the author wants commented out and not packaged |
| 01:46.55 | ckknight | ...no dice |
| 01:47.20 | Xinhuan | in the latter, the in-between would run in unpackaged form |
| 01:47.36 | ckknight | right |
| 01:47.57 | Xinhuan | in the former, it won't |
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| 01:48.23 | Xinhuan | are you changing this behavior, or should i just update the kb |
| 01:48.29 | ckknight | right, I don't get the point of the former |
| 01:55.20 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03Xinhuan * r134 TestAlpha.xml: Test XML substitutions. |
| 01:56.48 | Xinhuan | heh how come the test-alpha files list has a |
| 01:56.50 | Xinhuan | r133+1 |
| 01:56.58 | Xinhuan | on top of a r133 and r133-nolib |
| 01:58.52 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03Xinhuan * r135 TestAlpha.xml: Fix tests |
| 02:02.08 | Xinhuan | ok it works like you said |
| 02:04.14 | ckknight | http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/05/30/US-teenagers-big-on-hugging/UPI-47251243709088/ |
| 02:05.15 | Xinhuan | An Air France passenger jet with 231 people on board is missing after dropping off the radar over the Atlantic on Monday after taking off from Brazil. |
| 02:05.57 | Xinhuan | apparently it dlew into a storm, and then disappeared into the bermuda triangle or something |
| 02:06.00 | Xinhuan | flew* |
| 02:06.03 | Gagorian | What's the actual difference of doing function MyAddon:Function() dostuff() end and Function MyAddon.Function() dostuff() end? |
| 02:06.38 | Xinhuan | Gagorian, no difference in both cases |
| 02:06.44 | Xinhuan | dostuff() gets called in both cases |
| 02:07.03 | Xinhuan | and the function arguments passed in to Function() are unused/trown away in both cases |
| 02:07.21 | Gagorian | Why does only the latter option work correctly when I create a local copy of the function? |
| 02:07.34 | Xinhuan | because MyAddon:Function() dostuff() end is syntatic sugar for |
| 02:07.38 | ckknight | Gagorian: the only difference is the first one passes is self |
| 02:07.40 | ckknight | in* |
| 02:07.49 | Xinhuan | MyAddon.Function(self) dostuff() end |
| 02:08.00 | Xinhuan | where the self parameter is MyAddon |
| 02:08.04 | Xinhuan | by implied : syntax |
| 02:08.40 | Xinhuan | that is to say, all functions with : has "self" as the first parameter inserted into the argument list |
| 02:09.13 | Xinhuan | and this parameter is given the value of the table just before the : in the call |
| 02:10.50 | Gagorian | Myeah |
| 02:11.48 | Xinhuan | get it? |
| 02:11.49 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 02:12.43 | Xinhuan | lua> a = {}; function a:blah() print(self == a) end; a:blah() |
| 02:12.43 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true |
| 02:13.32 | Gagorian | Think so |
| 02:13.34 | Gagorian | :) |
| 02:13.55 | Xinhuan | lua> a = {}; function a:blah() print(self == a) end; a.blah(a) |
| 02:13.55 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true |
| 02:13.58 | Xinhuan | get it now? |
| 02:14.30 | Gagorian | Still! |
| 02:14.37 | Xinhuan | lua> a = {}; function a.blah(self) print(self == a) end; a:blah() |
| 02:14.37 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: true |
| 02:14.45 | Xinhuan | 3rd example to smash it into your head ;p |
| 02:15.25 | Gagorian | And yes, still :p |
| 02:18.33 | Gagorian | lua> local a = {}; function a.stuff(table) for k,v in pairs(table) do print(v) end end; local b = a.stuff; b({"stuff"}) |
| 02:18.34 | lua_bot | Gagorian: stuff |
| 02:18.37 | Gagorian | lua> local a = {}; function a:stuff(table) for k,v in pairs(table) do print(v) end end; local b = a.stuff; b({"stuff"}) |
| 02:18.37 | lua_bot | Gagorian: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 02:18.44 | Gagorian | can you still explain that? :D |
| 02:18.50 | Gagorian | I'm not sure how it applies |
| 02:19.03 | Xinhuan | which one |
| 02:19.10 | Gagorian | well why the latter one doesn't work |
| 02:19.17 | Xinhuan | first you defined |
| 02:19.18 | Xinhuan | function a:stuff(table) |
| 02:19.28 | Xinhuan | that's the same as defining function a.stuff(self, table) |
| 02:19.41 | Xinhuan | so when you called b({"stuff"}) |
| 02:19.50 | Xinhuan | which is the same as calling a.stuff({"stuff"}) |
| 02:19.56 | Xinhuan | the self parameter got the table |
| 02:19.59 | Xinhuan | and the table parameter got nil |
| 02:20.25 | quiescens | that code looks remarkably convoluted |
| 02:20.40 | Gagorian | It's not exactly the application in mind |
| 02:20.50 | Xinhuan | whereas in your first example, when you called b({"stuff"}), there is no self parameter |
| 02:21.03 | Xinhuan | since the function was not defined with : |
| 02:21.14 | Gagorian | myes |
| 02:21.50 | Xinhuan | so if you modified your second lua> command |
| 02:21.53 | Xinhuan | to pairs(self) |
| 02:21.54 | Xinhuan | it would work |
| 02:22.10 | Gagorian | yeah, or pass self I guess |
| 02:22.11 | Xinhuan | but won't be the intended object oriented use |
| 02:22.23 | Xinhuan | yes, or you should call b(b, {"stuff"}) |
| 02:22.37 | Xinhuan | err i mean |
| 02:22.39 | Xinhuan | yes, or you should call b(a, {"stuff"}) |
| 02:23.39 | quiescens | o.O |
| 02:23.44 | Gagorian | I guess I could define the local function to pass it as well |
| 02:24.04 | Xinhuan | to explain this clearer, there are 2 ways to define a function (with : and .) |
| 02:24.07 | quiescens | I don't understand what you people are trying to do |
| 02:24.15 | Xinhuan | and there are also 2 ways to call a function (with : or .) |
| 02:24.24 | Xinhuan | you should try to match : to : and . to . |
| 02:24.34 | Xinhuan | unless you know exactly what you are doing with the "self" parameter |
| 02:25.04 | Gagorian | quiescens: We aren't trying to do anything really, more curiosity than anything else :) |
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| 02:29.17 | Gagorian | It's pretty strange I haven't run into this earlier though, I guess I've just used : on everything before |
| 02:29.54 | Xinhuan | if you read library code of any library |
| 02:29.58 | Xinhuan | say AceAddon or AceEvent |
| 02:30.11 | Xinhuan | you'll realize that they copy over the functions |
| 02:30.24 | Xinhuan | so that when you call MyAddon:RegisterEvent() |
| 02:31.16 | Xinhuan | you are really calling lib.RegisterEvent(addon, ...) |
| 02:31.16 | Xinhuan | as the first arg passed in is MyAddon |
| 02:32.57 | Gagorian | Yeah, I've seen that. Now it's actually explained why :) |
| 02:35.06 | Xinhuan | here read this Gagorian: http://www.lua.org/pil/16.html |
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| 02:37.07 | Xinhuan | should just spend 2 hours to read thru the pil from end to end ;p |
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| 02:39.27 | Torhal | Meh. I think I'll write gem socket tooltip scanning tomorrow, and sleep tonight. |
| 02:39.54 | Torhal | Unless someone has something I can use which already does this? |
| 02:40.47 | Repo | 10alttab: 03Ackis 07master * v1.4-13-gb9e2539 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 02:40.50 | Repo | b9e2539: Add background sounds for pvp queues. |
| 02:40.53 | Repo | fc6d7e4: Fix ready check stuff. |
| 02:41.11 | PProvost | @project alttab |
| 02:41.20 | Repo | PProvost: http://www.wowace.com/projects/alttab/. AltTabber. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author). Updated: 8 hours ago |
| 02:41.50 | Ackis | it plays ready checks and pvp queues when you have sound disabled |
| 02:41.57 | PProvost | I see that |
| 02:42.05 | PProvost | I need to recommend that to some guildies :) |
| 02:42.20 | Ackis | that's why I wrote it, muru attempts == slow :P |
| 02:42.50 | PProvost | Hahah |
| 02:42.52 | PProvost | Nice |
| 02:43.24 | Adys | Could some people using the windows wow client (d3d) confirm me which of those two screenshots they see on read mail icons? http://devcub.com/~adys/icons.png |
| 02:43.30 | PProvost | I wish someone could tell me how to get the tabs back in Talented. |
| 02:45.07 | PProvost | Adys: As soon as I get past authentication I'll tell ya |
| 02:45.56 | Adys | thanks |
| 02:46.24 | Xinhuan | huh Adys |
| 02:46.33 | PProvost | Adys: mine are grey |
| 02:46.36 | Adys | ok thanks |
| 02:46.42 | Ackis | mine are grey as well |
| 02:46.44 | PProvost | Win7 |
| 02:46.47 | PProvost | x64 |
| 02:46.52 | PProvost | d3d |
| 02:46.54 | Xinhuan | Adys, grey = read mail, not-grey = unread mail |
| 02:47.00 | Adys | they are both read |
| 02:47.03 | Ackis | vista/64/and I hate your murkimus :( |
| 02:47.06 | Adys | the left ones are darker |
| 02:47.08 | Adys | yourmom ackis |
| 02:47.16 | Ackis | is it boa? |
| 02:47.24 | Xinhuan | well mine are grey on d3d |
| 02:47.30 | Xinhuan | (as in the right screenshot) |
| 02:47.32 | Adys | no, its sent once to every char you had |
| 02:47.37 | Adys | Xinhuan: yeah wine bug |
| 02:47.40 | Adys | wanted to confirm it |
| 02:47.43 | Adys | i thought it looked neat |
| 02:47.49 | Xinhuan | could be something to do with :SetDesaturation() or something |
| 02:47.51 | Adys | so wasnt sure if it was a wow feature not in opengl |
| 02:55.10 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1955 AckisRecipeList.lua: Remove skillet api calls. |
| 02:56.06 | PProvost | Can anyone tell me how to get the tabs back in Talented? I was told it has been built in now but I don't see em. |
| 02:57.17 | Xinhuan | your job sucks, ackis |
| 02:57.19 | Xinhuan | You received 4 experience points and $105,000 for helping Ackis complete the job. |
| 02:57.23 | Ackis | lol |
| 02:57.24 | Ackis | :P |
| 02:57.30 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r932 / (14 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 02:57.32 | Ackis | notice I got rid of all my friends pretty much? |
| 02:57.45 | Repo | - Improved tracking should work now |
| 02:57.48 | Repo | - Fixed sense undead glyph |
| 02:57.49 | Xinhuan | who cares ;p |
| 02:57.52 | Repo | - Added missing hunter glyphs and fixed others |
| 02:57.56 | Repo | - Corrected hunter t8 bonus |
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| 02:59.21 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1956 RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua: Add Pumpkin Pie and Slow-Roasted Turkey to Cooking. |
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| 03:26.16 | ckknight | lua> x = {'^','+','-','*'}; table.sort(x); table.foreachi(x, print) |
| 03:26.17 | lua_bot | ckknight: 1, *, 2, +, 3, -, 4, ^ |
| 03:26.21 | ckknight | Xinhuan: ^-- |
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| 03:26.46 | quiescens | ^ |
| 03:30.54 | Adys | anyone got ultraedit installed, os is willing to install it? |
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| 03:33.02 | Xinhuan | ckknight, i'm pointing out the sample answer on the contest page needs to be edited ;p |
| 03:34.17 | ckknight | ah, my bad |
| 03:36.49 | ckknight | in return, http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/05/30/ted-talk-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-orgasm-science/ |
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| 03:44.03 | pakoz | anyone have a grim reaper alternative? |
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| 03:50.42 | Rayden | i'm using the built in gear manager |
| 03:51.02 | Rayden | whenever i try to change the set i override with one of the same name but it forgets about the icon |
| 03:51.06 | Rayden | am i doing something wrong? |
| 04:01.56 | Xinhuan | UI sucks |
| 04:02.00 | Xinhuan | that's what is wrong |
| 04:02.30 | Cryect | How does Blizzard's UI I always wonder end upw tih so many issues for new stuff |
| 04:03.07 | Cryect | Or in the case of the raid unit frames be practically almost unusable (work in a pinch though) but they are reevaluating those luckily |
| 04:04.25 | Groktar | omg |
| 04:04.26 | Groktar | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/salteatervw/Punk%20Stuff/the_greastest_tatoo.jpg |
| 04:10.56 | Rayden | what's silly about the UI for that is that it still knows which one it was on, it's still highlighted |
| 04:11.07 | Rayden | but i have to click it again before it knows it has an icon and will let me click save |
| 04:11.40 | Xinhuan | lua> print("\ta") |
| 04:11.40 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: a |
| 04:12.03 | Xinhuan | lua> print(string.trim("\ta"):len()) |
| 04:12.03 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1 |
| 04:12.32 | Xinhuan | lua> print(string.trim("\ta\n "):len()) |
| 04:12.32 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 3 |
| 04:12.43 | Xinhuan | hmm |
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| 04:13.45 | Xinhuan | trying to figure out if gsub(s, "^%s*(.-)%s*$", "%1") is exactly the same as string.trim() or not |
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| 04:19.54 | quiescens | why? |
| 04:23.16 | Arrowmaster | string.trim seems weird from what you just did |
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| 04:26.43 | quiescens | string.trim isn't.. standard is it? |
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| 04:28.19 | quiescens | its probably just implemented like a gsub |
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| 04:32.31 | Xinhuan | !api GetGuildInfo |
| 04:32.31 | lua_bot | GetGuildInfo: Retrieves information about a players guild. (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetGuildInfo) |
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| 04:34.23 | quiescens | o.O |
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| 04:37.41 | PProvost | Can anyone tell me how to get the tabs back in Talented? I was told it has been built in now but I don't see em. |
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| 04:47.10 | Repo | 10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r132 BankItems.lua: |
| 04:47.14 | Repo | Nil out several one-use functions after calling them to reclaim some memory. Fix errors from last commit. |
| 04:47.39 | quiescens | o.o |
| 05:12.36 | Repo | 10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r133 BankItems.lua: |
| 05:12.40 | Repo | Expired items in the mail bag will now say so in the tooltip instead of giving a blank expiry time. |
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| 05:24.45 | Xinhuan | hmm would it be out of scope for bankitems to keep track of what items you have on the AH |
| 05:25.10 | Xinhuan | given it already records mailbox, equipped, keyring, currency as well |
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| 05:45.24 | Pneumatus | PProvost: talented tabs are in the alphas, its just not been tagged for beta/release since it got merged in afaik |
| 05:45.41 | PProvost | Hokay |
| 05:45.46 | PProvost | But the tabs addon was killed :( |
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| 05:46.00 | Pneumatus | yeh i know :< |
| 05:46.17 | Pneumatus | jerry should have waited on killing it off until he tagged a release imo |
| 05:46.33 | Pneumatus | i've had to switch to alphas for the time being |
| 05:46.44 | PProvost | Agree |
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| 05:48.09 | stolenlegacy | after the soft melee hitcap, should I gem AP/hit or pure AP into red sockets (enh shaman)? |
| 05:48.15 | stolenlegacy | i'm not spell hit capped yet |
| 05:48.40 | Xinhuan | !api GetNumAuctionItems |
| 05:48.40 | lua_bot | GetNumAuctionItems: Returns the number of auction items for a given type of listing (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetNumAuctionItems) |
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| 05:49.21 | Pneumatus | our enhancement shaman has 19% hit if that helps, stolenlegacy |
| 05:49.43 | stolenlegacy | Pneumatus: i know what the caps are |
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| 05:54.31 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.1_beta_7 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added more debug info to the auto report on Yogg and also fixed the charm detection not going away after 'Dominate Mind' is removed |
| 05:54.32 | Pneumatus | maybe 20-25% of enhancement damage is spells, so its definatly worth getting capped |
| 05:54.36 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 042.4.1_beta_7 * b545142 /: [new tag] 2.4.1_beta_7 |
| 05:54.41 | Pneumatus | as it also boosts offhand whites |
| 05:55.27 | Pneumatus | although it could be more, im not entirely sure which spells actually count as spells for enhance :< |
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| 06:01.39 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r73 Core.lua: |
| 06:01.43 | Repo | fix another misplaced reference to graphics instead of poisons |
| 06:06.20 | sb|work | morning |
| 06:13.48 | theoddone33 | yogg is really fun |
| 06:22.59 | Zyndrome | Steelbreaker last at 1% and tank dies is REALLY fun |
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| 06:29.17 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r933 / (13 files in 2 directories): |
| 06:29.20 | Repo | - Rewrote entire talent calculation engine, should lead to a nice performance improvement with the off chance of breaking stuff |
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| 06:52.01 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r934 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Fix for last commit; special case talents |
| 06:52.47 | Xinhuan | what's a good icon that can represent the AH |
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| 07:04.00 | Elkano | Xinhuan, a wooden hammer maybe? |
| 07:04.11 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=gavel |
| 07:04.16 | Xinhuan | they don't look very AH-ish ;p |
| 07:06.06 | Elkano | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25134 ? |
| 07:06.52 | Xinhuan | hmm i suppose... |
| 07:07.16 | Elkano | it's one of the default icons for wodden hammers ^^ |
| 07:07.26 | Elkano | but I thing it's the best you can get :/ |
| 07:07.58 | Xinhuan | i've been suggested the dalaran gold coins one lol |
| 07:08.44 | Aeyan | There's always: http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1180 |
| 07:08.59 | Aeyan | Too common, perhaps |
| 07:12.32 | Aeyan | Maybe a monocle, hehe |
| 07:12.47 | Aeyan | Or http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=735 |
| 07:12.53 | Aeyan | For the gavel thing |
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| 07:27.01 | orionshock | is there an api to return what group a raid member is in? |
| 07:29.51 | durcyn | !api GetRaidRosterInfo |
| 07:29.51 | lua_bot | GetRaidRosterInfo: Returns information about a member of the player's raid (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetRaidRosterInfo) |
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| 07:35.05 | orionshock | too bad the raid index dosn't work with that particular function.. |
| 07:38.14 | durcyn | except it does |
| 07:38.43 | durcyn | for i = 1, GetNumRaidMembers() do local name, rank, subgroup, whatever = GetRaidRosterInfo(i) end |
| 07:39.25 | orionshock | eh, (string.join("-", UnitName("raid1"))) == GetRaidRosterIndex(1) ===> False / Unreliably False |
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| 07:45.05 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt use string.join with that |
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| 07:45.34 | Arrowmaster | UnitName() used to like to return "" instead of nil for the 2nd arg not sure what current behavior is |
| 07:46.17 | Arrowmaster | it also didnt like to give the server name for people out of visable range |
| 07:51.48 | orionshock | Arrowmaster: good point... |
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| 07:52.22 | Repo | 10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r134 BankItems.lua: |
| 07:52.25 | Repo | Items you have put up for auction are now recorded when you visit the Auction House. |
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| 08:09.14 | orionshock | i give you - Broker_AliveFu http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=279234#post279234 |
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| 08:15.59 | Repo | 861df6c: Use an "anonymous" texture instead of creating a named one. |
| 08:16.02 | Repo | 6271c8c: Fixed source header. |
| 08:19.15 | Adirelle|work | hrm, Grid is creating a texture named "Icon". That's a kind of namespace pollution. |
| 08:27.20 | Xinhuan | you want to know what namespace pollution is? :D |
| 08:27.31 | Xinhuan | one of my addons puts out about 900 globals |
| 08:28.06 | Adirelle|work | ^^ |
| 08:28.13 | Adirelle|work | which one ? |
| 08:28.20 | Xinhuan | bankitems |
| 08:28.24 | Adirelle|work | actually, creating a global named "Icon" seems a pretty bad idea |
| 08:28.24 | Xinhuan | i haven't found the heart to rewrite it |
| 08:28.37 | Xinhuan | it doesn't actually hurt |
| 08:28.56 | Xinhuan | and rewriting it would actually harm the 10 or so addons that hook into it |
| 08:29.48 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r239 non-dailies.lua: |
| 08:29.51 | Repo | don't use :OnDisable() to add stuff into AceDB to update upValues, as this dosn't actually work. |
| 08:29.53 | Adirelle|work | which addons are hooking Grid Icon ??? (and if it was intended, why wassn't it a more distinct name, lke "Grid_Icon" ?) |
| 08:31.05 | Xinhuan | i didn't write grid ;p |
| 08:31.06 | Xinhuan | don't ask me |
| 08:31.11 | Adirelle|work | and BTW, it creates the same texture with the exacty same name for every unit frames, replacing the previous one... |
| 08:31.28 | Xinhuan | i was talking about something not grid |
| 08:31.32 | Adirelle|work | IMO it just looks like a typo or a API misuse |
| 08:31.34 | Adirelle|work | ok |
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| 08:42.00 | Advocatu1Diaboli | hmm, do I have to finish the questline to do argent tournaments |
| 08:42.01 | Advocatu1Diaboli | ? |
| 08:42.20 | orionshock | Advocatu1Diaboli: what one? |
| 08:42.40 | Advocatu1Diaboli | the one i saw at ze wowwiki. |
| 08:43.09 | orionshock | you have to do the black knight one to unlock the last dailie |
| 08:43.28 | Advocatu1Diaboli | hmm, but to play around with the horses and lances? |
| 08:43.32 | Advocatu1Diaboli | what do I have to do? :-P |
| 08:43.52 | CrazyBenny_ | yes, there are like 3 prequests |
| 08:44.12 | orionshock | Advocatu1Diaboli: that is the point of the tourny is to play around on the horses and lances. at all stages |
| 08:45.06 | orionshock | only 5 quests , 2 dailies, 1 rotating quest do not involve the horses and lances |
| 08:45.06 | Advocatu1Diaboli | CrazyBenny_: hmm, the stone chip and wood ones? |
| 08:45.24 | Advocatu1Diaboli | well, I just want to do just that, play around with horses and lances :-P but I can't seem to find out how |
| 08:45.28 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.42 | orionshock | Advocatu1Diaboli: horde or alliance? |
| 08:45.47 | Advocatu1Diaboli | alliance |
| 08:45.51 | orionshock | actually dosn't matteer |
| 08:45.58 | orionshock | there is a tent on the east side |
| 08:46.19 | orionshock | the npc just inside the door gives you a quest to go see a rep from silver covanant in the north tent |
| 08:46.25 | orionshock | that starts the aspirant chain |
| 08:46.35 | orionshock | do that for 4/5 days then u can do valiant quests for your race |
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| 08:48.33 | Arrowmaster | you mean west side |
| 08:49.39 | orionshock | ^^ |
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| 09:17.13 | Hjalte | Does anyone know how much of an increase in stats the dps warrior ulduar shoulders got in the recent hotfixes? http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/16474158165-recent-in-game-fixes-4-16-09.html |
| 09:18.01 | Fisker- | slaps Hjalte around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:19.12 | Fisker- | in rage we trust |
| 09:19.16 | Hjalte | does a druid block and wins. |
| 09:19.37 | Hjalte | I'm not even a warrior, but I can't find the data anywhere. |
| 09:19.47 | Hjalte | wowhead and wowdb are both upcated statwise |
| 09:20.37 | Fisker- | durr |
| 09:21.35 | Advocatu1Diaboli | thanks orionshock |
| 09:22.04 | stolenlegacy | looks for [Groktar's Meat Grinder] in his bags. |
| 09:22.06 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Conqueror's_Siegebreaker_Shoulderplates |
| 09:22.15 | stolenlegacy | sets up a Meat Grinder! |
| 09:22.34 | stolenlegacy | death grips Fisker- into the grinder and CoIs him in place. |
| 09:22.42 | stolenlegacy | turns the grinder on. |
| 09:22.52 | Hjalte | Fisker-: That's definately different from the stats ingame. |
| 09:22.58 | Fisker- | You prefer the company of men stolenlegacy |
| 09:23.02 | Hjalte | Fisker-: You're a good fisherman. |
| 09:24.16 | stolenlegacy | Fisker-: Well, death knights are OP, you know :D |
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| 10:08.05 | theoddone33 | heh... warriors have a cute talent |
| 10:08.23 | theoddone33 | deal 20% of your block value in damage whenever you block or take damage from melee |
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| 10:13.25 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r27 EnsidiaFails.lua: Grobbolus fix, |
| 10:13.29 | Repo | Algalon BigBang fix |
| 10:16.40 | Hjalte | theoddone33: Do your warriors do more threat than your druids? |
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| 10:28.56 | theoddone33 | we don't have any druid tanks |
| 10:29.09 | theoddone33 | if you mean kitties... our MTs are death knights |
| 10:29.15 | theoddone33 | and the answer is "sometimes" |
| 10:29.52 | SunTsu | Hjalte: When I was still playing my feral tank it's threat generation was stunning |
| 10:30.05 | SunTsu | Only to be outdone by prot paladins |
| 10:30.25 | theoddone33 | my undergeared prot paladin got destroyed by a warlock on vezax :( |
| 10:30.34 | theoddone33 | and no "oops" button on that fight |
| 10:31.34 | theoddone33 | but I don't think any tank can out-threat a caster with that buff |
| 10:31.56 | SunTsu | I always had to hold myself back when in direct competition with protection warriors, even with vigilance on me |
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| 10:55.27 | Hjalte | SunTsu: Same experience here, but our warrior seems really poor on threat. |
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| 10:56.16 | SunTsu | Hjalte: Maybe they focus on damage reduction too much and don't gear for aggro generation |
| 11:00.13 | Hjalte | Our warrior tank only has 5% hit or so, it might be it. |
| 11:02.22 | SunTsu | worst is warriors who forget to set vigilance - like the one who left us some weeks ago. After reminding him he went panic and once set it onto my ghoul... |
| 11:02.25 | Wobin | I suffer from that |
| 11:02.30 | Wobin | lack of hit |
| 11:03.02 | Wobin | thank god for runic strike |
| 11:03.14 | SunTsu | Hjalte: Yeah, that's common. I have that too with my DK, but as long as I generate enough threat I don't have the need to change it |
| 11:03.44 | stolenlegacy | yeah, but back when sanctuary still gave 20 RP on parry, runic strike was godsend |
| 11:03.59 | stolenlegacy | you could RS virtually every single autohit |
| 11:04.22 | stolenlegacy | in blues i easily had twice as much aggro as a full t7.5 dd |
| 11:04.33 | Wobin | I like runic strike cause I know I'm not actually being hit =) |
| 11:05.05 | Wobin | Getting a huge chain of "Runic Strike!" is nice, for a tank to see |
| 11:05.14 | SunTsu | Runic strike is great. You generate threat from avoidance, really cool |
| 11:06.47 | SunTsu | I hope that the frost presence nerf doesn't hit as hard as it sounds |
| 11:10.35 | Wobin | too |
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| 11:20.24 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03Rinu * r63 LibFail-1.0.lua: fixed Fail_Malygos_Dot (forgot the MalygosAlive check) |
| 11:20.27 | Repo | fixed Fail_Vezax_Leech (now announces the player who got mark of the faceless and is too stupid to run away) |
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| 11:37.03 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r28 EnsidiaFails.lua: added better way of handling Mimiron Flames |
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| 11:45.02 | Trell_ | @project ensidiafails |
| 11:45.04 | Repo | Trell_: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ensidiafails/. EnsidiaFails. Game: WoW. Maat (Manager/Author). Updated: 7 minutes ago. Tickets: 2/2 |
| 11:45.44 | Trell_ | very nice |
| 11:46.39 | Trell_ | such a shame you can't track Yogg cloud spawning |
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| 11:56.51 | Zyndrome | the clouds should undergo a change though |
| 11:57.02 | Zyndrome | so they instantly kill whoever touch them |
| 11:57.14 | Zyndrome | that would quickly filter out the idiots in raids |
| 11:57.31 | sztanpet | didnt blizz say something about the clouds |
| 11:57.36 | sztanpet | lemme search |
| 11:57.47 | stolenlegacy | i think they should make yogg cast a spell when he spawns a cloud |
| 11:58.30 | Zyndrome | so far, you can only make events when the add spawn ;/ |
| 11:58.37 | sztanpet | http://wowraid.com/tracker/b7/t16904260894/make-yoggsaron-clouds-register-in-combat-log.html |
| 11:58.42 | sztanpet | ah so yea |
| 11:58.53 | sztanpet | not very helpfull |
| 12:00.24 | stolenlegacy | i want an combatlog event when a cloud is spawned, and a event where yogg casts some spell on whoever steps into them |
| 12:00.39 | stolenlegacy | like sara casts spawn guardian on failor |
| 12:03.29 | stolenlegacy | oh well, if i get lucky i can get my first few attempts on yogg 10 in today |
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| 12:03.45 | stolenlegacy | have been VERY unlucky when it comes to PuGs |
| 12:04.00 | Groktar | pounces stolenlegacy |
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| 12:04.29 | stolenlegacy | waves to Groktar. |
| 12:05.01 | stolenlegacy | s/to/at |
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| 12:12.47 | steev | woo, we got Mimiron and Vezax down in 10 last night |
| 12:13.10 | SunTsu | congrats |
| 12:13.26 | steev | i got t8 gloves, and then some str ring |
| 12:13.32 | steev | and now im up to 400 hit rating, woo |
| 12:13.59 | SunTsu | We doing our own hard mode. Getting 10 people together for raiding.. |
| 12:14.10 | steev | heh |
| 12:14.14 | SunTsu | s/We/We are/ |
| 12:14.39 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sen'jin&cn=Steev&gn=Cult+of+the+Dead+Cow |
| 12:14.54 | steev | all my hit rating is from gear :( |
| 12:16.03 | sb|work | why 400hit? |
| 12:17.06 | steev | ... |
| 12:17.21 | steev | because thats how much the hit rating on my gear adds up to, pretty much |
| 12:17.55 | steev | im not gemmed or enchanted for hit, its mostly because im stuck using the shitty titansteel destroyer |
| 12:20.48 | steev | we have a pally tank who is retarded :( |
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| 12:21.08 | SunTsu | steev: I still use it, too ;) For tanking, that is. Had bad luck in Naxx25, everytime Inevitable Defeat dropped it went to smb. else and flamelevithian10's 2h mace went to a paladin on thursday.. *g* |
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| 12:21.39 | steev | yeah... i haven't even seen an ied yet |
| 12:21.43 | steev | (on this toon) |
| 12:21.51 | steev | boh went to the tank |
| 12:22.38 | steev | *if* i can get the 1h mace from 25 thorim (shouldn't be an issue since our 3 enh shaman already have it) i may just say fuck it and dual wield |
| 12:22.59 | SunTsu | steev: I saw it five times. On one run we even had it three times in a single night *g* |
| 12:23.10 | steev | heh |
| 12:23.17 | steev | the naxx 10 dropped on my other server |
| 12:23.22 | steev | but i lost it to the dps dk :( |
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| 12:29.33 | Repo | 10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r29 EnsidiaFails.lua: Added: Ice Shards -- Hodir |
| 12:30.44 | steev | got 25 ulduar tonight, if nothing good drops for me, then tomorrow night is naxx 20 |
| 12:34.18 | SunTsu | I wish we get together 10 people for ulduar tonight. I hate not knowing whether we can raid or not |
| 12:35.41 | steev | :( |
| 12:35.59 | steev | that sucks... i sometimes don't get to go cuz we have too many (and im not a raider yet) |
| 12:36.39 | steev | I just got bumped up to member sunday after the failed attempts at thorim |
| 12:36.46 | steev | it was bad :( |
| 12:36.53 | steev | very very bad |
| 12:37.56 | SunTsu | We still are at assembly of iron, because we most of the time only can do a single raid per week if at all |
| 12:38.26 | SunTsu | and if we can we have to fill up with undergeared randoms |
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| 12:45.17 | steev | :( |
| 12:45.18 | mitch0 | is this author award program fully operational yet? |
| 12:45.21 | steev | that sucks |
| 12:45.37 | steev | if we were recruiting, i'd say join our server |
| 12:46.55 | SunTsu | steev: Nah, if I wanted to leave my guild I'd have plenty of options on my realm. But I value my guild mates higher than raiding. And so my paladin and my shaman are finally above level 60 ;) |
| 12:47.21 | steev | nice |
| 12:47.27 | steev | i... can't level alts |
| 12:47.28 | steev | anymore |
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| 12:48.45 | SunTsu | I think, I have to quit before the next expansion, because if they bring a new class without making available new character slots I'd really have a hard time wondering which one to delete |
| 12:48.55 | steev | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/Evil_Juggalo/All other Crap/omg.png |
| 12:49.03 | steev | delete the hunter, easy decision |
| 12:49.13 | robotusch | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/Evil_Juggalo/All other Crap/omg.png |
| 12:49.16 | robotusch | aiee |
| 12:49.19 | robotusch | wrong window, sorry |
| 12:49.25 | steev | heh |
| 12:49.32 | SunTsu | steev: Nah! It's my engineer, source of wealth ;) |
| 12:50.15 | SunTsu | All those little clouds waiting out there! |
| 12:50.30 | robotusch | could be worse, you could be on Yogg p2 and only have 3 melee awake enough to enter portals xD |
| 12:53.17 | robotusch | http://sarth3d.dk/WoWScrnShot_053009_214817.jpg tentacle gentle caressing :< |
| 12:53.45 | Tentacled | waves a tentacle about. |
| 12:54.19 | Groktar | is turned on |
| 12:55.15 | SunTsu | I still wonder why we now destroy the old gods which the titans chose to chain up, in order not to destroy azeroth |
| 12:55.30 | nevcairiel | we don't like azeroth anymore |
| 12:55.58 | nevcairiel | also they are not really chained up if they can take control of all the watchers etc |
| 12:56.47 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Yeah, but they were left alive for a reason. And I really see a big turn in story line incoming |
| 12:57.19 | SunTsu | "You brought abot the end of Azeroth yourselves by destroying the old gods" |
| 12:57.25 | SunTsu | about even |
| 12:57.48 | SunTsu | Would be a nice twist to it |
| 12:57.56 | nevcairiel | next expansion |
| 12:58.00 | nevcairiel | "The end of the world" :P |
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| 12:59.18 | SunTsu | The next expansion will be another old god, the one from the Maelstrom, and afterwards there shouldn't be so many old gods alive anymore. Two IIRC |
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| 13:00.38 | nevcairiel | the old gods arent that good documented |
| 13:01.49 | Lysithea | is there a mail addon out there that would send all these items X I got in my inventory... or all items in this Z list would be even better |
| 13:01.49 | Groktar | there's an old god in the maelstrom? |
| 13:01.56 | Groktar | thought it was just a bunch of crazy naga |
| 13:02.13 | SunTsu | http://www.wowwiki.com/Old_Gods - "Depending on the source, three, four, or five Old Gods lie imprisoned." |
| 13:02.26 | Lysithea | Sending 500+ items even with 12items at a time is still tedious having to click them all |
| 13:02.30 | SunTsu | Groktar: Yeah, but what turned them into Naga? |
| 13:03.03 | SunTsu | Lysithea: BulkMail2 does that, though it#s a little bit outdated, it's still functioning |
| 13:03.10 | Groktar | something to do with magic and pissed off elves |
| 13:03.14 | Lysithea | thanks, Ill look it up |
| 13:03.35 | |Stan| | maelstrom expansion will be about Queen Ashzara |
| 13:04.10 | Lysithea | Also while I'm asking questions, I remember I had an addon that milled all my herbs of a certain type without having to macro it |
| 13:04.24 | Lysithea | any idea what it could be called? Ive sadly forgotten it's name or author |
| 13:04.51 | Groktar | o, teh well of eternity |
| 13:04.51 | Daemona | Funkeh` BadBoy: http://ace.pastey.net/115271 |
| 13:04.53 | Groktar | that was it |
| 13:04.54 | SunTsu | Groktar: Again wowwiki: "They corrupted some of the highborne, and used them to lure the Burning Legion to Azeroth. Many of the highborne were transformed into the naga. The Old Gods' intentions for the naga have not been revealed." |
| 13:05.18 | SunTsu | Lysithea: Panda? |
| 13:05.28 | Lysithea | that's probably it! |
| 13:05.32 | Lysithea | thanks again :) |
| 13:08.56 | Lysithea | hmm, users are reporting that bulkmail isnt working anymore, Ill take a look myself but it doesnt bode well :/ |
| 13:09.29 | SunTsu | Lysithea: Well, I use it |
| 13:09.38 | Lysithea | oh, then it works I suppose :) |
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| 13:11.13 | SunTsu | Lysithea: I would have noticed if it didn't, yeah |
| 13:11.26 | Lysithea | Does it have the same functions as postal btw? |
| 13:11.40 | Lysithea | or should I use both to have it's functions |
| 13:12.02 | Lysithea | Wish postal had something like bulkmails mass mail function |
| 13:12.05 | steev | there's still the emerald dream to deal with |
| 13:12.08 | Lysithea | only thing Im missing from it |
| 13:12.10 | steev | that should be an interesting instance |
| 13:12.10 | SunTsu | Never checked out postal, though that's on my to do list |
| 13:12.22 | Lysithea | mk |
| 13:12.39 | Lysithea | We'll see what happens with both on ;P |
| 13:13.11 | SunTsu | steev: yes, that would be great, maybe Malfurion makes his grand return, then |
| 13:13.12 | mitch0 | is there a knowledge-base article or somesuch about this curse-store thing? I can't seem to find out how to spend those points... |
| 13:13.33 | Belazor | curse admin should ban this person: http://wow.curse.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=1865253 - another keylogger spammer. Id also suggest adding the site he links to to some form of word filter |
| 13:14.25 | SunTsu | mitch0: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/curse-premium-and-authors/ |
| 13:14.42 | SunTsu | "oints can then be spent at the CurseForge store to redeem for various items, currently Amazon Gift Cards (we will expand our inventory in the future)." |
| 13:15.15 | nevcairiel | the store is still offline |
| 13:15.30 | mitch0 | ah |
| 13:15.58 | mitch0 | but basically, I could by amazon gift card at amazon.uk, and use that to buy a gamecard there, right? |
| 13:16.02 | Belazor | I hope the wow subscription cards wont cost too many points, my tiny addons don't exactly rake in the dough XD |
| 13:16.18 | mitch0 | s/by/buy/ |
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| 13:17.36 | mitch0 | hm. I see there will be all sorts of legal hurdles for non-US peeps... :( |
| 13:18.49 | nevcairiel | why would there be? |
| 13:19.10 | Belazor | this isnt any diff from just getting say paypal |
| 13:19.24 | Belazor | the countries own IRS would be like oi if it was too much, and tax us accordingly |
| 13:19.44 | Belazor | dont think curse will need to worry about it |
| 13:19.52 | Belazor | course IANAL |
| 13:20.07 | Lysithea | hmm SunTsu this isnt really what I was looking for, I still have to click each stack of herbs to send it rather than just put each sort in a list for it to be automailed when initiated |
| 13:20.27 | Lysithea | what Im looking for might not be possible to do tho |
| 13:20.51 | Lysithea | Dont know much about the possibilitys in the wowuiverse |
| 13:20.53 | steev | afaik, you do have to click an item, it can't be auto added |
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| 13:21.12 | Lysithea | ok, well it was worth a try :) |
| 13:21.33 | SunTsu | Lysithea: You can make sending rules |
| 13:21.46 | SunTsu | Lysithea: "Herbs go to" ... |
| 13:21.55 | Lysithea | I must be blind |
| 13:22.30 | Lysithea | hmm |
| 13:22.37 | SunTsu | Lysithea: There should be a minimap button for it |
| 13:22.41 | SunTsu | or fubar plubin |
| 13:22.44 | Lysithea | I dont even get the options from doing /bulkmail or any button |
| 13:22.44 | SunTsu | plugin |
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| 13:39.34 | harl | how do i prevent LibPeriodicTable-3.1 from adding quest related information to the GameTooltip ? |
| 13:41.16 | harl | i don't think it should even do that at all, but it does |
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| 13:49.57 | Repo | 10fubar_findpartyfu: 03chrsm * r13 FuBar_FindPartyFu.lua: modified minimap button. |
| 13:51.57 | Repo | 10fubar_findpartyfu: 03chrsm * r14 FuBar_FindPartyFu.toc: modified version. |
| 13:53.35 | Repo | 10fubar_findpartyfu: 03chrsm 041.12 * r15 : Tagging as 1.12 |
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| 14:22.00 | Groktar | ~wowalert |
| 14:22.01 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 14:31.45 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r935 / (7 files in 2 directories): |
| 14:31.48 | Repo | - FuBarPlugin-2.0 no longer needed to run if someone decides to remove it |
| 14:31.51 | Repo | - Gift of the naaru should use AP now instead of spellpower if higher |
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| 14:38.17 | ckknight | Pneumatus: ping |
| 14:38.26 | Pneumatus | pong |
| 14:38.29 | ckknight | or this question can be phrased to everyone, really |
| 14:38.42 | ckknight | for the primary/secondary categories, what'd be a good UI for choosing categories? |
| 14:39.10 | Pneumatus | dropdown for primary and multi-select for secondary, or maybe checkboxes for secondary |
| 14:39.23 | ckknight | hmm, I suppose that'd be best |
| 14:39.26 | ckknight | yea |
| 14:39.28 | ckknight | that can work. |
| 14:39.35 | ckknight | simple and easy ;-) |
| 14:43.31 | AckisWork | ckknight: neural interface |
| 14:43.38 | ckknight | if only |
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| 14:53.42 | nicoli_s | if starwars toys can do it, curseforge can do it |
| 14:55.01 | Bruners | ckknight: or a dropdown with all the selected categories to choose default primary category |
| 14:55.20 | ckknight | Bruners: I'd require javascript for that |
| 14:55.26 | ckknight | and I don't want to require javascript |
| 14:55.43 | nicoli_s | javasript = good |
| 14:56.18 | ckknight | not on wowace |
| 14:56.27 | ckknight | we do not require javascript |
| 14:56.31 | Bruners | if it can be avoided, why not |
| 14:56.34 | ckknight | and we have no plans to require javascript |
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| 14:56.44 | ckknight | granted, we'll use it to make things nicer |
| 14:57.09 | Bruners | as long as you stay the fuck away from flash shit im happy |
| 14:57.21 | nicoli_s | just redo the whole site in flash :P |
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| 14:57.50 | nicoli_s | though if we ever do need flash work done, i know a guy |
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| 14:59.26 | ckknight | Bruners: our download buttons are flash now, begrudgingly |
| 14:59.40 | nicoli_s | ckknight, did you see the new toc field minion is asking people to include? |
| 14:59.46 | ckknight | no |
| 14:59.54 | ckknight | what's this? |
| 15:00.06 | nicoli_s | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24340 |
| 15:00.31 | ckknight | well, we already include toc fields that are curse-specific |
| 15:00.42 | ckknight | if they're able to piece it together, good for them |
| 15:00.58 | ckknight | still, toc-parsing is a bad way of going about it |
| 15:01.01 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1957 Docs/Wowwiki.txt: Update wiki doc. |
| 15:01.32 | nicoli_s | indeed |
| 15:04.15 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1958 AckisRecipeList.toc: Add minion support. Muhahhahahahahahahahah |
| 15:04.31 | AckisWork | minion makes me laugh like that... evily |
| 15:05.00 | |Stan| | urm |
| 15:05.08 | |Stan| | what do you have to add to the toc to support minion? |
| 15:05.26 | nicoli_s | a line that says #I-Support-Minion |
| 15:05.37 | |Stan| | \o/ |
| 15:06.21 | AckisWork | ckknight: my sound request from last night, are you able to do it today? or have a way in which I can find out myself? |
| 15:07.22 | ckknight | AckisWork: what request? |
| 15:07.40 | AckisWork | the path for the PVPTHROUGH sound file |
| 15:07.43 | ckknight | oh |
| 15:08.06 | ckknight | know which mp? |
| 15:08.08 | ckknight | mpq? |
| 15:09.03 | AckisWork | no idea, whereever pvp sounds are? heh =/ |
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| 15:12.35 | Zhinjio | ' |
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| 15:18.31 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r936 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Moved combo points event into melee module |
| 15:18.34 | Repo | - Now updates in 0.5s after target swap instead of 1.5s |
| 15:19.58 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.6.6_beta-2 * r937 : Tagging as 1.6.6_beta-2 |
| 15:20.25 | Bruners | ckknight: cant you do buttons like that with CSS? |
| 15:20.33 | ckknight | buttons like what? |
| 15:20.53 | Bruners | "<@ckknight> Bruners: our download buttons are flash now, begrudgingly" |
| 15:21.08 | |Stan| | Gnarfoz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKiBRWAiZn8 :P |
| 15:21.10 | ckknight | the display isn't what's important |
| 15:21.11 | ckknight | the backend code is |
| 15:21.17 | ckknight | it's how we secure our downloads from wowmatrix |
| 15:22.12 | Bruners | evul wowmatrix |
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| 15:24.14 | AckisWork | bah for git, the proper way to get a repo locally is to git clone URL, then you can do pushes/pulls normally? I'm getting a remote end hung up on me =/ |
| 15:24.16 | ckknight | oh, I should reiterate my request from last night: Would anyone be willing to help make category icons for each category we have? |
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| 15:25.14 | nevcairiel | ask Mikk |
| 15:25.16 | nevcairiel | he likes gfx |
| 15:25.28 | AckisWork | ckknight: asked the gf, she does that kinda of thing... kind of |
| 15:25.41 | Bruners | vector images or just plain ? |
| 15:25.41 | ckknight | we might be able to compensate |
| 15:25.46 | |Stan| | AckisWork: in paint, right? |
| 15:25.58 | ckknight | vector images would be fucking sweet, but otherwise 512x512 pngs |
| 15:26.04 | AckisWork | |Stan|: a little more in depth than paint :P |
| 15:26.20 | nevcairiel | i thought it was icons, not freaking wallpapers |
| 15:26.32 | ckknight | we'd scale em down |
| 15:26.36 | Bruners | hehe |
| 15:27.01 | nevcairiel | anyway try to reach mikk, he does icons good |
| 15:27.02 | ckknight | but if we want different sizes, it's better to scale down 512x512 to 80 than from 100 to 80 or 100 to 150 |
| 15:27.06 | ckknight | okay |
| 15:27.08 | ckknight | Mikk: I need you |
| 15:27.11 | ckknight | bad. |
| 15:27.19 | ckknight | I wish I could quit you |
| 15:27.44 | ckknight | :P |
| 15:28.17 | Fisker- | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:28.20 | ckknight | :P |
| 15:29.47 | ckknight | I just got the sims 3 |
| 15:29.47 | ckknight | woo |
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| 15:29.58 | Pneumatus | ckknight: are the mouseover images on the beta projects page still work in progress? |
| 15:30.09 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 15:30.12 | ckknight | gimme feedback |
| 15:30.36 | kagaro | Adirelle|work: I added a replay to that spec switcing thread. I dont think anyone even thought about mods that dont use acedb for storage |
| 15:30.41 | Pneumatus | some projects have MASSIVE images, they need scaling/cropping down to a reasonable size |
| 15:30.46 | Pneumatus | let me find an example... |
| 15:30.52 | ckknight | hmm |
| 15:31.24 | Pneumatus | ok http://beta.wowace.com/projects/ mouseover the BankItems image |
| 15:31.25 | Pneumatus | for example |
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| 15:31.58 | ckknight | hmm |
| 15:31.59 | ckknight | okay |
| 15:32.17 | ckknight | I could make it scale to fit the viewport |
| 15:32.34 | sztanpet | oh man, i so dont like these bubbly round images, takes away the nice simplicity wowace had before :( |
| 15:32.34 | Pneumatus | because its a like 1280x1024px screenshot, it takes up my whole browser window, and more |
| 15:33.16 | Pneumatus | and holy crap xinhuan isnt short of a few gold is he :o |
| 15:33.29 | nevcairiel | he is chinese |
| 15:34.40 | Repo | 10langoustine: 03kagaro * r25 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added enGB locale with debug on for enGB users. |
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| 15:35.10 | Pneumatus | there's no such locale as enGB :< |
| 15:35.26 | Pneumatus | GetLocale() returns enUS on the enGB client |
| 15:37.56 | ckknight | but _G.LOCALE_enGB == true on the enGB client |
| 15:38.28 | kagaro | i had someone report differently Pneumatus |
| 15:38.45 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-faq/ by Ackis |
| 15:38.47 | kagaro | its just a quick devel branch stopgap |
| 15:39.12 | Pneumatus | well, my enGB client returns enUS |
| 15:39.45 | nicoli_s | maybe cuz it just knows you arent really british |
| 15:39.55 | Pneumatus | except i am |
| 15:40.21 | ckknight | but not _really_ British |
| 15:41.47 | Repo | 10nostalgia: 03Ackis 07master * 6ea7b5b Nostalgia.toc: [+1 commit] Update ToC with proper terms/sv's etc |
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| 15:44.50 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-faq/ by Ackis |
| 15:45.54 | kagaro | anyone have a macbook pro with the glossy scren? |
| 15:46.42 | ckknight | me |
| 15:47.01 | kagaro | how do you like the glossy scren? i was thinking of getting the matte one instead im still kinda undecided |
| 15:47.01 | durcyn | glossy LCDs are the work of the devil |
| 15:47.19 | ckknight | kagaro: I was unable to get a matte screen, they no longer ship them on the new models |
| 15:47.27 | ckknight | overall, it hasn't been bad |
| 15:47.29 | durcyn | you can get it on the 17, i thought |
| 15:47.31 | ckknight | but I probably would prefer matte |
| 15:48.30 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/dsm/. dataset manager. Zhinjio (Manager/Author). Approved by Zhinjio. |
| 15:48.31 | kagaro | im buying a new one next week, my company is letting me work from europe for a few weeks so im saving vacation but my macbook 13" doesnt have enough horsepower for it (try running 2 virtual machiens on it .. it crys) |
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| 15:49.41 | durcyn | you can probably find a used late 2007 model with a matte screen for around 1K USD, fwiw |
| 15:49.53 | kagaro | i figure price drop after next week anyways |
| 15:50.20 | nevcairiel | i hope they get out the new iphone, so i can get it when my current contract ends |
| 15:51.12 | kagaro | it wil be real soon, beta5 of 3.0 has a lot less bugs in it |
| 15:51.32 | nevcairiel | not talking about the OS exclusivly |
| 15:51.42 | kagaro | but its gona be tied togther you know |
| 15:51.53 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 15:52.03 | nevcairiel | but the rumors about the new hardware sound nice |
| 15:52.09 | kagaro | ya they do |
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| 15:52.54 | nevcairiel | some mobile company here accidentally leaked some information, supposedly its going out on 17th of july |
| 15:53.16 | nevcairiel | they blocked vacations of their PR people, etc |
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| 15:54.01 | nevcairiel | and my contract goes to 28th of july |
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| 15:54.49 | kagaro | i cant upgrade for a while i just recently switched to an iphone (4 months ago) |
| 15:55.22 | kagaro | it was a my phone died, and my choice was re-up with sprint or 2 yrs or get an iphone |
| 15:55.23 | nevcairiel | yeah i don't have one yet, but i have been considering getting one for a while |
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| 16:09.28 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-116-g89aa419 Collectinator.lua: [+3 commits] |
| 16:09.31 | Repo | 89aa419: Dump the db out once we scan. |
| 16:09.48 | Repo | 730935e: We now parse the pets, update the database which which we know. No point in using SV's for this. |
| 16:09.52 | Repo | 209b90e: Make /collectinator open up the frame. |
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| 16:12.36 | steev | http://www.provantage.com/supermicro-pws-0054~7SUPA008.htm something seems off with that picture... can't quite place my finger on it though |
| 16:13.17 | nevcairiel | i dunno, what should be wrong? |
| 16:14.04 | steev | well, the page says its a 1U power supply |
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| 16:16.27 | nevcairiel | the scale is probably off, and you would turn it side ways |
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| 16:16.33 | nevcairiel | shrug, i dunno |
| 16:16.46 | nevcairiel | might be a bit too big for 1U |
| 16:16.49 | steev | mmm, more likely its just an incorrect picture |
| 16:16.56 | steev | just made me laugh is all |
| 16:17.01 | durcyn | tee hee? |
| 16:17.08 | mojosdojo | @describe collectinator |
| 16:17.09 | Repo | mojosdojo: http://www.wowace.com/projects/collectinator/. Collectinator. What it does Provides methods for determining which mini-pets, mounts, and tabards you are missing. Where to get it WoW Ace - Alpha Quality Curse - Stable release Donations I have setup a donation... |
| 16:17.21 | nevcairiel | the description also doesnt talk about the redudancy, but maybe thats a given :P |
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| 16:23.12 | Fisker- | ckknight |
| 16:23.16 | Fisker- | you are now manually breathing |
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| 16:23.40 | ckknight | lol |
| 16:23.42 | ckknight | no I'm not |
| 16:23.46 | ckknight | I am manually blinking, though |
| 16:23.56 | Fisker- | Like in Alone in the Dark |
| 16:23.56 | Fisker- | nice |
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| 16:26.42 | haste | ckknight: you have a tongue as well! |
| 16:26.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 16:26.53 | ckknight | I _so_ do |
| 16:27.07 | ckknight | you guys know me so well |
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| 16:33.11 | Repo | 10alttab: 03Ackis 07master * v1.4-16-geda7894 AltTabber.lua: [+3 commits] |
| 16:33.14 | Repo | eda7894: Add another comment. |
| 16:33.17 | Repo | a424f3a: Add comment for me to remember a web-page |
| 16:33.34 | Repo | 6cf371b: Change sound for pvp queue to the apporiate sound. |
| 16:33.38 | Repo | 10alttab: 03Ackis 04v1.5 * 34174b0 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.5 |
| 16:34.27 | nevcairiel | man why are there *no* tv shows left that are worth watching .. everything ended, and no summer-fillers appeared yet |
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| 16:35.22 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: Rewatch Firefly :> |
| 16:35.39 | nevcairiel | i just might |
| 16:35.54 | Tristanian | such a shame that show ended the way it did |
| 16:36.22 | ckknight | now watch Twilight, nevcairiel |
| 16:36.30 | Repo | 10alttab: 03Ackis 07master * v1.5-1-g9dd3eae / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Update docs. |
| 16:36.31 | Hjalte | Arrested Development was also really great. |
| 16:36.39 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Jim-Bim 07master * Alpha1-116-g28eb125 /: [forced -3 +3] Remove a line to be able to apply ackis file |
| 16:37.08 | nevcairiel | the movie? |
| 16:37.29 | Repo | 10alttab: 03Ackis 04v1.5 * /: [TAG DELETED] |
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| 16:37.43 | Repo | 10alttab: 03Ackis 04v1.5 * 7aa8779 /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.5 |
| 16:37.43 | nevcairiel | evil ackis is deleting tags =( |
| 16:37.44 | Groktar | has the movie in glorious 1080p |
| 16:38.10 | Tristanian | older tags or ? :p |
| 16:38.30 | AckisWork | a tag I just made about 12 seconds ago :P |
| 16:38.31 | nevcairiel | Ackis you broke the packager |
| 16:38.37 | Tristanian | Ackis :s |
| 16:39.26 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: did you remove the lock? |
| 16:39.35 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:39.56 | AckisWork | then it's not broken |
| 16:40.33 | AckisWork | those error messages in blue were from me swithcing from a svn to git repo, those tags were deleted but it still tries to make them |
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| 16:44.16 | Repo | 99a5cd7: Fix merging issues. |
| 16:44.21 | Repo | 89aa419: Dump the db out once we scan. |
| 16:44.23 | Repo | 730935e: We now parse the pets, update the database which which we know. No point in using SV's for this. |
| 16:44.26 | Repo | 209b90e: Make /collectinator open up the frame. |
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| 16:44.52 | durcyn | merges AckisWork with a pumpkin |
| 16:45.00 | AckisWork | mmm pumpkins |
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| 16:47.34 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r938 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 16:47.36 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: thats why you don't change the repository type of a library =P |
| 16:47.37 | Repo | - Added missing death knight talents, corrected a few others |
| 16:47.40 | Repo | - Fixed an issue with the new talent calculation |
| 16:48.14 | AckisWork | yah where were you when I was discussing doing it in IRC? :P yah exactly :P lesson learnt :P |
| 16:48.50 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.6.6_beta-3 * r939 : Tagging as 1.6.6_beta-3 |
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| 16:58.52 | Repo | 10gridcustomlayouts: 03warbaby * r4 / (3 files in 1 directory): Experimental version of NOREPEAT attribute. |
| 16:58.57 | Repo | Not tested. |
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| 17:08.34 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-125-gb7ad2ea database.xml: [+1 commit] Make sure all the databases get loaded. |
| 17:12.00 | Rayden | i have an idea for a Tour de Northrend |
| 17:12.17 | Rayden | get into groups of 5 and see which team can get the most heroic boss achievements first |
| 17:12.32 | Rayden | most in time |
| 17:12.37 | Rayden | thoughts? |
| 17:12.47 | nevcairiel | Its not really trackable if you've already done them |
| 17:13.45 | Rayden | it would be an in guild thing, so letting keep track of their own isn't an issue |
| 17:14.14 | Rayden | although i guess if everyone already has it, then you wouldn't know if you got it again or not |
| 17:15.24 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r32 Changelog.txt: - Update changelog |
| 17:15.29 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-128-ga1fbd54 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 17:15.32 | Repo | a1fbd54: Make sure our constants are actually decalred. |
| 17:15.35 | Repo | 86d65ee: Fix a location. |
| 17:15.38 | Repo | 91a38f3: Fix some unknown locations and remove them from being printed out for right now. |
| 17:15.44 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.4.4 * r33 : Tagging as v0.4.4 |
| 17:17.33 | Rayden | i suggested it and one guild memer had nothing but negative things to say about it |
| 17:17.47 | Rayden | "too competitive, too much planning, etc etc" |
| 17:18.14 | Rayden | people in my guild love achievements, so it seems like we could get some good speed runs and get people achievements at the same time |
| 17:18.26 | Rayden | she seemed to think we could do all the achievements purely based on listing them and being cooperative |
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| 17:20.52 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-129-g5dc406f DB/PetDatabase.lua: [+1 commit] Fix giant sewer rat (nev's nickname imo) |
| 17:21.04 | AckisWork | OWNED ahahah /groan |
| 17:21.59 | Jim-Bim | so true |
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| 17:23.00 | NeoTron | Rayden: although trivial compared to hard mode ulduar, some of the 5-man achievements aren't exactly easy :P |
| 17:23.05 | NeoTron | still |
| 17:23.13 | Rayden | yeah |
| 17:23.20 | Rayden | but just doing the 5 mans is boring |
| 17:23.23 | Rayden | too easy |
| 17:23.29 | Rayden | you could pick and choose which you want to do |
| 17:23.32 | Rayden | there are enough to choose from |
| 17:23.49 | NeoTron | had the first red proto on the server. |
| 17:23.50 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-130-g2ba1c5d Collectinator.lua: [+1 commit] Bug fix |
| 17:24.21 | NeoTron | wouldn't mind getting one for my warlock though |
| 17:24.41 | Rayden | what is red proto? |
| 17:25.07 | NeoTron | the reward for completing the 5 man achievements |
| 17:26.54 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r940 Data/DeathKnight.lua: - Corrected a few death knight sigils |
| 17:26.57 | Repo | - Polished the death knight module |
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| 17:28.05 | |Stan| | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/images/druid/ss3.jpg |
| 17:28.11 | |Stan| | they look awesome! :O |
| 17:28.40 | nevcairiel | wtb nightelf |
| 17:28.51 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-131-ge922366 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Print out the ones that we don't know only. Enable the frammmmmeeee. |
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| 17:28.58 | Fisker- | naw |
| 17:29.15 | Rayden | ooh |
| 17:29.18 | AckisWork | hi Fisker- |
| 17:29.19 | Rayden | when were those released? |
| 17:29.20 | AckisWork | sup |
| 17:29.21 | Rayden | just now? |
| 17:29.33 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 17:29.48 | Rayden | cause i JUST logged on to check that and didn't see anything |
| 17:29.50 | Rayden | how nifty |
| 17:30.00 | nevcairiel | they are only in 3.2 |
| 17:30.03 | nevcairiel | not live =p |
| 17:31.24 | Rayden | onto wow news blogs |
| 17:31.47 | Rayden | http://disgraphtdwarf.com/?p=106 |
| 17:32.37 | Rayden | ok, that cat kind of looks like a bull |
| 17:32.47 | Rayden | whoever heard of a cat with a nose ring? |
| 17:32.54 | nevcairiel | its a tauren |
| 17:32.57 | Rayden | infinitely better though |
| 17:32.57 | nevcairiel | they have nose rings |
| 17:33.10 | Rayden | tauren bear doesn't |
| 17:33.17 | Rayden | and not all taurens have nose rings |
| 17:34.15 | Rayden | paws are better, texture is better, horns are better, eyes are better |
| 17:35.01 | Aeyan | Lockjaw is better |
| 17:35.25 | End | The nose ring is a little odd, but that's a significant improvement over old cat form |
| 17:35.43 | End | the horns don't look like they were randomly tacked on either |
| 17:36.59 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r941 Data/Hunter.lua: |
| 17:37.02 | Repo | - 3.1.3 patch notes: Hunter's mark buffed from 300 RAP to 500 RAP |
| 17:37.26 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Jim-Bim 07master * Alpha1-132-g52ee5fb CollectinatorFrame.lua: [+1 commit] remove uneeded ui elements (classes) |
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| 17:40.01 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-133-g57b23b0 CollectinatorFrame.lua: [+1 commit] Bug fix. |
| 17:41.14 | NivFreak | I really like the new cat form |
| 17:41.37 | nevcairiel | i think the tauren form looks kinda ridiculous |
| 17:41.51 | NivFreak | which tauren form? |
| 17:41.59 | nevcairiel | the cats |
| 17:42.13 | Rayden | doesn't really look like a cat face |
| 17:42.28 | Repo | 10macro-bank: 03Odlaw * r34 MacroBank.toc: - toc update (Adding X-WoWI-ID for Minion updater support) |
| 17:42.31 | Repo | - Localization update (zhCN thanks to wowuicn) |
| 17:42.44 | Repo | 10pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r78 PassLoot.toc: - toc update (Adding X-WoWI-ID for Minion updater support) |
| 17:42.56 | NivFreak | it's a huge improvment |
| 17:43.05 | Rayden | http://www.logoi.com/pastimages/img/lion_4.jpg |
| 17:43.21 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.6.6_beta-4 * r942 : Tagging as 1.6.6_beta-4 |
| 17:43.25 | Rayden | http://www.tropical-rainforest-animals.com/image-files/jaguar.jpg |
| 17:44.19 | Aeyan | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/mrstkitty.jpg |
| 17:44.59 | Rayden | someone needs to photoshop a cat and a bull face together |
| 17:46.04 | Rayden | good grief the old one is ugly |
| 17:46.48 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-134-g50cf5a9 CollectinatorFrame.lua: [+1 commit] .xif guB |
| 17:47.30 | Rayden | http://z.about.com/d/cameras/1/0/u/1/bigcat.JPG |
| 17:47.40 | Rayden | the face is too long |
| 17:47.42 | Rayden | that's the problem |
| 17:48.18 | nevcairiel | its a lion |
| 17:48.20 | nevcairiel | not a cat |
| 17:48.22 | nevcairiel | they have long faces |
| 17:48.28 | Rayden | not that long |
| 17:48.58 | Rayden | http://www.jeffreydegrijs.nl/d/3911-4/IMG_9019b.jpg |
| 17:49.11 | Rayden | need a side view |
| 17:50.21 | Rayden | http://www.bigcatrescue.org/images/000BigCatPhotos/NotBCRcats/lions/JosephOHlg.jpg |
| 17:51.01 | NeoTron | "The tentacle creatures and floating skulls in Yogg Sarons brain rooms should now load faster." nice change |
| 17:51.07 | NeoTron | often wasted a few seconds |
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| 17:52.57 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: yeah, best change of all of them |
| 17:53.02 | Gnarfoz | fucking annoying, that was |
| 17:53.31 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r1959 RecipeDB (2 files in 1 directory): added missing Alchemy trainer data, Tickets 621,622,627 |
| 17:53.34 | Repo | added missing Blacksmithing trainer data, Tickets 620,623 |
| 17:54.02 | Gagorian | r1959, man I thought I had many :C |
| 17:54.49 | AckisWork | 4-5 full database rewrites, 2 complete rewrites, and a bunch of dry-coding |
| 17:54.49 | NivFreak | so no one loved failbot enough to keep updating it, so we get uckfup now? :) |
| 17:55.19 | steev | we made it to yogg yesterday, but it was right at the end of raid time so we just mucked around a bit to see what it was like... then i got mc'd and owned the raid |
| 17:56.06 | Tristanian | "Madness will consume you !" |
| 17:56.09 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: what... ANOTHER one? |
| 17:56.13 | steev | for those who have been there a bit |
| 17:56.33 | steev | whats the fastest way to the descent of madness or whatever its called - we've been hitting the shattered walkway |
| 17:56.38 | cncfanatics | Anyone remember what the paladin aura that reduces spell pushback is called ? |
| 17:56.44 | steev | concentration |
| 17:56.45 | Gnarfoz | concentration |
| 17:56.53 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: there's failbot, failbotenhanced, failboat (w/ LibFail), ensidiafails now, and those are just the ones I know off the top of my head ;D |
| 17:56.57 | Tristanian | the shattered walkway is the fastesy way |
| 17:57.05 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's already the shortest path :X |
| 17:57.08 | steev | also had my ghoul glitch (yet again) |
| 17:57.14 | cncfanatics | Are holy paladins usualy specced in improved concentration aura ? |
| 17:57.15 | Tristanian | or conservatory teleported but I believe its a bit far |
| 17:57.19 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: this one actually like, reports stuff for ulduar :) |
| 17:57.22 | steev | if its not on permacooldown its randomly aggroing shit while on passive |
| 17:57.26 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: they all do |
| 17:57.27 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: the EJ boards seem to like it |
| 17:57.35 | Gnarfoz | Yogg has his own teleporter again, luckily ;p |
| 17:57.40 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: I get jack shit out of libfail/failboat/recount-fail |
| 17:57.45 | Gnarfoz | well... |
| 17:57.49 | Tristanian | yup when you kill the general its fine |
| 17:57.51 | Gnarfoz | recount fail I don't even know :D |
| 17:57.52 | NivFreak | and btw, wtb general transporter |
| 17:57.55 | NivFreak | :) |
| 17:58.00 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: the original FailBot was the first one to get updated for Ulduar, where or what is uckfup? :D |
| 17:58.19 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: the EJ boards are enjoying it, shadowed wrote it |
| 17:58.22 | Gnarfoz | General teleporter would be nice as long as you're spending time wiping to him :D |
| 17:58.39 | nevcairiel | there was a general teleporter on the PTR once |
| 17:58.42 | nevcairiel | but they removed it again |
| 17:58.42 | Tristanian | yup |
| 17:58.50 | nevcairiel | was kinda sad |
| 17:58.52 | Gnarfoz | for testing, more than for convenience, I take it |
| 17:58.59 | nevcairiel | I dunno |
| 17:59.04 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: heh, and I'd have thought he'd be part of the group who'd complain about there being too many addons that do that stuf, hehe |
| 17:59.07 | nevcairiel | second PTR phase on general didnt have it anymore |
| 17:59.11 | steev | it took us 4 attempts to get down mimiron, and only 2 on vezax |
| 17:59.15 | Tristanian | was up when testing General yes but then they removed it |
| 17:59.16 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/uckfup.aspx |
| 17:59.26 | Gnarfoz | @project uckfup |
| 17:59.27 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/uckfup/. Uckfup. Game: WoW. Shadowed (Manager/Author). Updated: 12 hours ago |
| 17:59.31 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: or github, or wowinterface etc etc |
| 17:59.33 | Gnarfoz | ;-) |
| 18:00.13 | AckisWork | does it use lib fail? |
| 18:00.19 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 18:00.27 | NeoTron | is there an addon using libfail? |
| 18:00.27 | Gnarfoz | first paragraph says "not evilly coded", so I don't think so |
| 18:00.28 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 18:00.35 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: FailBoat, Recount, Skada |
| 18:00.39 | AckisWork | failboat uses it rigt? :P |
| 18:00.41 | NivFreak | I think the concept was that you could add your own fails easily |
| 18:00.46 | Tristanian | yeap |
| 18:01.19 | Tristanian | we always have a person spamming it, its annoying sometimes |
| 18:01.45 | nevcairiel | it was already annoying when it was only the DBM users spamming shit on sartharion |
| 18:01.51 | Tristanian | haha |
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| 18:02.27 | Gnarfoz | I'll kill anyone who turns their bossmods to publicly announcing stuff |
| 18:02.35 | Tristanian | well for instance on Mimiron hardmode, the tank is going to get tons of mines from all those attempts :p |
| 18:02.39 | Tristanian | counters go up |
| 18:02.47 | Gnarfoz | /rw is for raid leaders :X |
| 18:02.56 | nevcairiel | I think i have public announce on, but i am raid leader =P |
| 18:03.03 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's the exception |
| 18:03.04 | nevcairiel | sane people have bossblock |
| 18:03.05 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: I like my mod to spam fails to /guild |
| 18:03.08 | Gnarfoz | but I don't even have that turned on |
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| 18:03.29 | Tristanian | well bossblock should take care of that really |
| 18:03.38 | Gnarfoz | I think, ONCE, in Hyjal, our then-maintank asked me to turn it on because he wasn't running bossmods :D |
| 18:03.42 | nevcairiel | does DBM do somethins boss-blocky? |
| 18:03.54 | nevcairiel | s/ins/ing/ |
| 18:04.05 | Gnarfoz | I should run with bossblock disabled some time, to check how spammy /rw really is for us |
| 18:04.11 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:04.13 | Tristanian | dont |
| 18:04.15 | nevcairiel | better dont |
| 18:04.20 | Tristanian | its not a pretty sight |
| 18:04.37 | Adirelle | is there is some addon to measure skill usage frequencies ? |
| 18:04.56 | Tristanian | define skill adi |
| 18:05.05 | nevcairiel | use recount |
| 18:05.16 | Adirelle | Tristanian: spell |
| 18:05.26 | Tristanian | ah yeah I guess recount can |
| 18:05.31 | Gnarfoz | recount and/or one of the offline log analyzers |
| 18:05.34 | Tristanian | maybe Skada too but don't quote me on that |
| 18:05.41 | nevcairiel | fight-duration divided by number of times used the skill |
| 18:05.46 | nevcairiel | == frequency |
| 18:05.56 | Tristanian | or yeah you simply parse the log to one of those logging websites |
| 18:05.56 | Gnarfoz | WoL and WWS both have "abilities" pages |
| 18:06.11 | Adirelle | hrm |
| 18:06.18 | nevcairiel | WoL Live Logging = best thing since sliced bread, btw |
| 18:06.27 | steev | skada doesn't have the spiffy graphs that recount dows |
| 18:06.28 | steev | does* |
| 18:06.39 | Tristanian | true |
| 18:06.52 | Tristanian | personally never needed them though :p |
| 18:06.53 | sztanpet | nobody uses those |
| 18:06.55 | Gnarfoz | the pie charts are awesome, the graphs... not so much |
| 18:07.05 | steev | er |
| 18:07.11 | steev | pie charts/graphs whatever |
| 18:07.16 | Adirelle | I'm only interested in my own spells btw |
| 18:07.17 | Gnarfoz | although I *have* used the graphs some times |
| 18:07.40 | Adirelle | e.g. I'm supposed to cast exactly 10 ES per minute, but I'd like to check what I'm really doing |
| 18:08.58 | Adirelle | the fact you have "idle" time during an encounter (moving around, CC'ed, maybe activating things) does not play well with "entire fight duration" |
| 18:09.19 | Tristanian | that's why there is "active time" ;) |
| 18:09.42 | Adirelle | mew, gonna try if I can get something out of recount |
| 18:09.43 | Tristanian | however I'm not sure if that is taken into consideration |
| 18:09.54 | Tristanian | I know it has an activity meter at least |
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| 18:10.30 | Adirelle | btw, what WoL stands for ? (googling "wol" just list tons of Wake-on-lan ref) |
| 18:10.35 | durcyn | World of Logs |
| 18:11.19 | Gnarfoz | www.worldoflogs.com |
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| 18:12.58 | NivFreak | I wish you could see totem gains in the combat log |
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| 18:20.31 | NivFreak | so has anyone gotten clique to allow cleansing dominate mind without a macro? |
| 18:20.50 | jnwhiteh | Yes |
| 18:20.59 | jnwhiteh | the issue is not a Clique onel |
| 18:21.03 | jnwhiteh | its an issue with the resolution of the target |
| 18:21.14 | NivFreak | so it's unit frames? |
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| 18:21.34 | Gnarfoz | I don't know what it is, but I have to resort to targetting and casting Cleanse manually\ |
| 18:21.37 | Gnarfoz | which... sucks :D |
| 18:21.43 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: you can bind a mouseover macro |
| 18:21.47 | NivFreak | to work around it |
| 18:21.56 | Gnarfoz | care to share? mine doesn't seem to work. |
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| 18:22.04 | NivFreak | but I've heard you can also change your cleanse to not be a friendly action, but rather default (in clique) |
| 18:22.08 | Gnarfoz | I seem to always have to target first |
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| 18:22.24 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: I don't know if that works on Grid at all |
| 18:22.25 | NivFreak | there was on on EJ |
| 18:22.28 | Adirelle | ok, today's exercice: how to configure java webstart on jaunty ^^ |
| 18:22.40 | steev | why would you want to? |
| 18:22.49 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.56 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: ugh |
| 18:22.57 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 18:22.59 | durcyn | Adirelle: apt-get install java ; javaws hi_mom.jnlp |
| 18:23.03 | Gnarfoz | that's not a mouseover macro at all :D |
| 18:23.06 | NivFreak | haha |
| 18:23.10 | durcyn | or whatever they're calling the damn packages these days |
| 18:23.21 | stolenlegacy | NivFreak: /cast [target=mouseover]Cleanse much? |
| 18:23.25 | NivFreak | well, you can try /cast [target=mouseover] Cleanse; Cleanse |
| 18:23.28 | NivFreak | but I don't think it'll work |
| 18:23.28 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: does Kuja play a character called Kujâ btw? |
| 18:23.33 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: it doesn't. :( |
| 18:23.39 | NivFreak | stolenlegacy: yes, I'm aware :P |
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| 18:23.48 | NivFreak | stolenlegacy: but it's reported not to work |
| 18:24.00 | stolenlegacy | NivFreak: Oh, sorry, just came in^ |
| 18:24.04 | NivFreak | we're trying to work around broken behavior |
| 18:24.08 | Adirelle | durcyn: "javaws http://www.worldoflogs.com/media/client/launch.jnlp" gives me: "netx: No base directory (contains cache and other data) " |
| 18:24.40 | durcyn | Adirelle: i haven't been able to make WOL play nice with a linux VM lately, and it doesn't work at all without 1.6 |
| 18:24.41 | stolenlegacy | Question: if I send heirlooms to a level 1 char, and transfer that char to another account, would the heirlooms be usable on the new account? |
| 18:24.44 | durcyn | JVM* |
| 18:25.09 | durcyn | stolenlegacy: i wasn't aware you could transfer a level 1 |
| 18:25.20 | NivFreak | they have to be lvl 10 |
| 18:25.23 | Adirelle | I'm using java 1.6, but anyway, I'll try another JWS app |
| 18:25.26 | *** part/#wowace cncfanatics (n=Diego@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 18:25.26 | NivFreak | but yes |
| 18:25.28 | EvilJohn- | I can probably hlp with a misbehaving JVM |
| 18:25.30 | EvilJohn- | help |
| 18:25.34 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=Diego@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 18:25.42 | stolenlegacy | oh, then i need to powerlevel some char to level 10 |
| 18:25.47 | stolenlegacy | need to get boas to my dualboxing acc |
| 18:26.11 | nevcairiel | thats like an hour work =P |
| 18:26.14 | NivFreak | it takes like 30 mins to get to lvl 10 |
| 18:26.19 | NivFreak | or 60 |
| 18:26.19 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 18:26.27 | EvilJohn- | yeah, about an hour |
| 18:26.36 | NivFreak | I spend more time sorting my UI than it takes to get to lvl 10 |
| 18:26.46 | nevcairiel | hehe yea |
| 18:26.58 | stolenlegacy | or just use one of my other chars i don't need |
| 18:27.01 | steev | how exactly do you "power level" to level 10 |
| 18:27.03 | stolenlegacy | got tons of those anyways |
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| 18:27.22 | NivFreak | steev: auto-follow your 80? |
| 18:27.23 | stolenlegacy | steev: boosting through quese |
| 18:27.26 | steev | suppose you could af on a dk and just have em drop dnd in the starting areas |
| 18:27.32 | stolenlegacy | s/quese/quests/ |
| 18:27.40 | NivFreak | tab-dot-tab-dot-tab-dot |
| 18:27.56 | steev | still, do you *really* need to "power level" to 10? |
| 18:28.01 | nevcairiel | i think you're faster if you level yourself to 10, rather then follow a 80 |
| 18:28.06 | nevcairiel | the xp cut is quite extreme =P |
| 18:28.10 | stolenlegacy | and nah, i need to create the level 10 on my main acc |
| 18:28.21 | stolenlegacy | since i farmed all my heirlooms there |
| 18:28.30 | stolenlegacy | leveling without heirlooms is a major pita |
| 18:28.42 | NivFreak | one of my accounts has no 80 on it |
| 18:28.44 | nevcairiel | I got the plate shoulders and the axe for a new paladin |
| 18:28.50 | nevcairiel | but i'm stuck on like lvl 13 |
| 18:28.51 | NivFreak | and my poor 61 rogue with no heirlooms |
| 18:29.23 | NivFreak | fear my rogue |
| 18:29.26 | NivFreak | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostwolf&n=Gw |
| 18:31.50 | NivFreak | outland is rough in lvl 10 gear |
| 18:31.52 | VonhintenHOME` | There's no PLing in WoW, face it |
| 18:32.08 | VonhintenHOME` | Closest thing is running a newb through instances at about their level |
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| 18:32.31 | cncfanatics | PLing ? |
| 18:32.35 | VonhintenHOME` | powerleveling |
| 18:32.36 | nevcairiel | there is, its called recruit-a-friend |
| 18:32.49 | VonhintenHOME` | oh, true, but that requires a new account |
| 18:32.52 | cncfanatics | what nevcairiel said, I had a level 60 priest with 5 mins /played :p |
| 18:33.57 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm about to hit 80 on my 4th toon, the other 3 are Ulduar level... |
| 18:34.00 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm reaching my limit |
| 18:34.23 | nevcairiel | I only raided on my druid |
| 18:34.31 | nevcairiel | my DK did some naxx10, but thats it |
| 18:34.45 | nevcairiel | Maybe i should raid with him more, might be more fun |
| 18:35.13 | VonhintenHOME` | my rogue is uld25 and 10 geared, my mage is nax25 and uld10 geared, my pally is naxx10, 25 and uld10 geared |
| 18:36.42 | VonhintenHOME` | kinda neglected my pally, mostly just a healer or offtank fill in |
| 18:36.43 | cncfanatics | I raid on one char, can't bare more |
| 18:38.09 | nevcairiel | I couldn't stand the 5-days a week raiding with all the pressure anymore, plus i'm really low on time for university stuff .. so i quit raiding recently, maybe i'll do like 1-2 days a week again |
| 18:38.22 | VonhintenHOME` | we only raid 25 2 nights, 3 hrs, I raid in 2 other 10 mans, 2 nights a week |
| 18:40.53 | VonhintenHOME` | christ, servers still down... |
| 18:41.43 | nevcairiel | yeah well i'm on break until my exams are over now, maybe i'll get back to raiding then with less raid days |
| 18:41.58 | Tristanian | I need a break too :s |
| 18:41.58 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1960 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 18:42.01 | Repo | Update the lunar festival recipes with skill up info, proper acquire info, and expansion info. |
| 18:42.06 | Tristanian | but guild wants Algalon 25 :s |
| 18:42.09 | Tristanian | what can you do |
| 18:42.12 | VonhintenHOME` | You poor academics |
| 18:42.13 | nevcairiel | its just that i don't know any half-decent guild on my realm that only raids 2-3 days a week |
| 18:42.30 | nevcairiel | they either suck, or raid more days |
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| 18:42.51 | cncfanatics | I personaly think 4 days is fine, 2-3 Is a bit low |
| 18:43.06 | nevcairiel | i raided 5 days a week for 4 years now |
| 18:43.09 | nevcairiel | its too much |
| 18:43.12 | VonhintenHOME` | You should be able to get through Ulduar in 2 or 3 days, with good players |
| 18:43.22 | Tristanian | no hard modes sure :P |
| 18:43.24 | cncfanatics | Get through ulduar, yea, but you won't have much time for progress |
| 18:43.34 | VonhintenHOME` | fair enough |
| 18:43.54 | steev | wow, i totally fail at stasis |
| 18:44.05 | steev | http://steev.net/stasis |
| 18:44.23 | VonhintenHOME` | think I'll patch warhammer while I wait... |
| 18:44.27 | durcyn | i've got some non-lame template files if you want, steev |
| 18:44.36 | steev | durcyn: would love them |
| 18:44.37 | nevcairiel | maybe i should try another mmo just for fun |
| 18:44.52 | Tristanian | wait for the new Star Wars one :p |
| 18:44.57 | nicoli_s | try out runes of magic, its not half bad |
| 18:45.10 | Gnarfoz | wow is teh crack, you know you won't be quitting it anyway |
| 18:45.13 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:45.29 | VonhintenHOME` | I'll quit wow for Aion if its anything like DAoC, no doubt |
| 18:45.37 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: go go eve online ? :p |
| 18:45.41 | nevcairiel | probably not, Gnarfoz, but 3.x raiding bores me |
| 18:45.43 | durcyn | steev: http://www.vitriolic.net/crap/template.tar.bz2 |
| 18:46.00 | Gnarfoz | that seems like an awful generalization since Ulduar is so much better than Naxx |
| 18:46.11 | nevcairiel | Ulduar is fine |
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| 18:46.15 | durcyn | it's php, if that matters |
| 18:46.17 | nevcairiel | but the concept is bad |
| 18:46.19 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 18:46.26 | cncfanatics | What concept ? the hard modes ? |
| 18:46.37 | Tristanian | I always disliked the achievement system tbh |
| 18:46.39 | nevcairiel | instead of just wiping all week on a hard boss, people just quit and kill him easy mode |
| 18:46.45 | Tristanian | exactly |
| 18:46.47 | Tristanian | thank you nev |
| 18:46.54 | Gnarfoz | hm, no, they don't? |
| 18:46.55 | VonhintenHOME` | nev, yep... |
| 18:47.07 | Gnarfoz | that's a problem with the people, not the design |
| 18:47.07 | Axodious | sigh |
| 18:47.10 | Tristanian | at the very least they could make it the other way around |
| 18:47.11 | Axodious | stupid extended maintenance |
| 18:47.17 | Gnarfoz | totally different question: do current Winamp versions still support 'classic' skins? |
| 18:47.20 | Tristanian | implement an "easy mode" instead of a hard mode |
| 18:47.20 | Axodious | ps, new cat forms make me want to level my druid |
| 18:47.21 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: the design supports silly people |
| 18:47.30 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: at least in my guild =/ |
| 18:47.42 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: well, 90% of wow players are silly people, smart design to plan them in, don't you think? ;-) |
| 18:47.50 | nevcairiel | no |
| 18:47.51 | nevcairiel | ! |
| 18:47.54 | Gnarfoz | Tristanian: that's has exactly the same problem :P |
| 18:48.02 | Tristanian | from a money PoV it is smart yes |
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| 18:48.07 | Repo | Reworked missing library detection for easier maintenance and consistency. |
| 18:48.17 | Tristanian | obviously you are going to cater to the majority of the player base |
| 18:48.18 | nevcairiel | At first i liked the idea |
| 18:48.22 | nevcairiel | but now |
| 18:48.22 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I certainly do, and anyone who hasn't forgotten Blizzard is a company that wants to earn money, catering to the majority of their customers is smart. :P |
| 18:48.33 | VonhintenHOME` | For my guild, we're struggling with non-hard mode Ulduar... too few people show up... stepping in with 23 people. I do 6k DPS on a boss, the #2 DPSer does 4.5k, and then 4k, and then 3.5k, and then a drop down to 2.5k for most |
| 18:48.37 | Tristanian | I mean in 4-5 months who will even remember Ulduar ? |
| 18:48.48 | cncfanatics | Tristanian: How would you go making an "easy mode" without people considering the "easy mode" "normal" and the normal mode "hard" ? |
| 18:48.51 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: your raiders suck, how is that Blizzards fault? :< |
| 18:49.02 | Tristanian | yeah I know its flawed cncfanatics |
| 18:49.05 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: exactly, it's impossible and identical to what we have now |
| 18:49.16 | nevcairiel | before they had no choice, if they wanted to beat the boss, they had to suck it up |
| 18:49.17 | Torhal | Tristanian: They'll remember it when it's back in the next expansion, re-tooled for level 90 folks and not as hard as before. |
| 18:49.22 | Tristanian | I just like enjoying a challenge that is not necessarily tied to an achievement |
| 18:49.22 | Torhal | ducks. |
| 18:49.26 | nevcairiel | now its all "QQ just lets do easy mode" |
| 18:49.35 | Gnarfoz | no, it's not "all qq" |
| 18:49.38 | Gnarfoz | it's "your people QQ" |
| 18:49.39 | VonhintenHOME` | Gnarfoz, well, unfortunately, my guild is made up of real people, with real lives and real jobs... Blizz should care, because there's nothing outstanding about us, we're average people. |
| 18:49.41 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: Sounds like you just need a more serious guild :p |
| 18:49.48 | VonhintenHOME` | Just like the majority of WoW playerbase |
| 18:50.05 | Tristanian | I've been a hardcore raider for 3 years+ I guess I'm biased :p |
| 18:50.07 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: we have like, 2 people out of a job right now and we manage to make it work. |
| 18:50.32 | Torhal | I understand why they cater to the casuals. However, they shouldn't have flipped off the hardcore people with the same gesture. |
| 18:50.42 | Gnarfoz | (and how does it matter how much time they've got on their hands? it really doesn't, at all) |
| 18:50.56 | Tristanian | I would disagree with you there :p |
| 18:50.58 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: how did they? hard modes are for hardcore players, the concept is good |
| 18:51.09 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: I mean with the launch of 3.0 |
| 18:51.17 | Tristanian | time is important if you want to do hard modes faster |
| 18:51.17 | Torhal | I was sorely disappointed. |
| 18:51.18 | Gnarfoz | who cares about 3.0? we're discussing 3.1 ;< |
| 18:51.19 | nevcairiel | I need a guild that raids less days a week, but still trys to go hardcore onto the raids |
| 18:51.25 | VonhintenHOME` | Gnarfoz, I have people in my raid in the late 40's that work 12 hour days, rush home to make raids, family commotion around them, real life stuff going on |
| 18:51.30 | VonhintenHOME` | It's just a fact of life |
| 18:51.32 | Tristanian | nev once you find it, invite |
| 18:51.34 | Tristanian | :P |
| 18:51.37 | Torhal | Well, I was so disappointed I have still not raided like I used to. :) |
| 18:51.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: find one then, there's plenty of them around because... that's what you need to do if you want to combine hard modes + "a life" as they call it |
| 18:51.49 | Torhal | I'll likely change that. |
| 18:51.54 | cncfanatics | I do agree, naxx was disapointing, but I actualy liked maly & sarth |
| 18:52.01 | VonhintenHOME` | And let's be honest here, most of us in my guild have been playing this game for 4 years... it just doesn't have the same grab that it used to... less incentive to comprimise real life |
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| 18:52.22 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: it's a fact of WoW that they're not well suited for hard modes, too. Luckily, 12 hour days are not legal over extended periods of time here, yay :D |
| 18:52.25 | Tristanian | all things wear out if you do them all the time |
| 18:52.46 | Tristanian | the game hasn't really changed that much encounter wise |
| 18:52.49 | nevcairiel | maybe 3 days, 4 tops, focusing on hardmodes with competent players, and not QQing when we don't kill all bosses in a week because we focused on a hardmode |
| 18:52.49 | Tristanian | we are simply jaded |
| 18:53.09 | nevcairiel | dreams |
| 18:53.26 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: so at first you say "we can't waste more time on it because we have to work, unlike you, you know?" and then you say "there's not as much incentive to ignore your real life as there was?"...? interesting. :P |
| 18:53.27 | Pneumatus | ulduar has a lot of longetivity |
| 18:53.29 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: Looking for the same, I'm also anoyed with incompetent officers that understand nothing about healers making healing qq |
| 18:53.33 | Pneumatus | purely because of the legendary |
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| 18:54.01 | Tristanian | that legendary will eventually become Blades of Azzinoth part 2 :p |
| 18:54.09 | Pneumatus | except it wont |
| 18:54.15 | Gnarfoz | it's not good enough for that, seriously |
| 18:54.17 | cncfanatics | I disagree, it's much much harder to get, and much less luck based |
| 18:54.24 | cncfanatics | and not good enough :p |
| 18:54.29 | Gnarfoz | there's an AQ40 trinket that does the same, wtf :p |
| 18:54.31 | nevcairiel | yeah its not really that good |
| 18:54.39 | Pneumatus | its still far better than constellus |
| 18:54.43 | Tristanian | less luck based ? We have had guilds on our realm with more pieces than us |
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| 18:54.47 | Pneumatus | which is the next best choice for most healers |
| 18:54.48 | nevcairiel | there will be equal weapons in the next tier |
| 18:54.50 | Tristanian | and they've killed like 1 hard mode :p |
| 18:55.02 | cncfanatics | Tristanian: Yes, but you didn't have guilds on your server that got 2 blades on their first 2 illidan kills yes ? |
| 18:55.13 | Tristanian | We had 1 |
| 18:55.14 | Tristanian | :s |
| 18:55.20 | Gnarfoz | sincerely, if you're complaining about the 3.1 raid concept, then you're stuck in the "wrong" kind of guild, since Blizzard now caters to those with less time on their hands, too. |
| 18:55.30 | Pneumatus | we had 2 offhands, after farming for months and months |
| 18:55.30 | cncfanatics | You know what I mean :) That kind of shit ain't possible with shards |
| 18:55.44 | nevcairiel | I have high expectations on a new guild, i wonder if those guilds even exist |
| 18:55.51 | Tristanian | I guess what I'm trying to say it |
| 18:55.59 | Tristanian | if they release Icecrown Glacier eventually |
| 18:56.06 | chiper | does anybody know what actionids comprise the moonkin/tree stance bars? |
| 18:56.09 | Tristanian | I'm not really sure if that legendary will be worth it as much |
| 18:56.11 | nevcairiel | icecrown glacier is the zone |
| 18:56.18 | Tristanian | Citadel |
| 18:56.18 | nevcairiel | icecron citadell is the instance :P |
| 18:56.19 | Tristanian | meh |
| 18:56.20 | cncfanatics | Tristanian: The proc is quite nice to have in the raid |
| 18:56.22 | Tristanian | bite me :p |
| 18:56.24 | Repo | 10auctionator-recipelist: 03TAP3AH * r6 / (2 files in 2 directories): LibTextbook updated to r5 |
| 18:56.27 | Repo | small code fix |
| 18:56.31 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: there have to be guilds that focus on the highest end shit and getting it done in less time than 6 hours / 7 days guilds. It's an inevitable consequence of life w/ a family or a job or both. ;-) |
| 18:56.36 | cncfanatics | Even if you'd gimp some stats for it, I'd like to keep a few of them in the raid |
| 18:56.38 | VonhintenHOME` | If I had to guess, I'd say the majority of progress guilds are made up of later teens and early 20's, with quite a lot of free time, not much real life interferance... my guild isn't made up of that. it's late 20's and 30's, married with kids, careers... |
| 18:56.39 | Tristanian | yeah it seems the procs is nice |
| 18:57.02 | cncfanatics | It's not OMGWTFSOIMBA but it is intresting, reduces burst nicely |
| 18:57.22 | VonhintenHOME` | I'll be 30 this year, and I am quite unique in my guild, being one of the highest attendance players (as the raid leader, I have to be) |
| 18:57.29 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: well... your complaint is what, that you can't do the hard modes with them, or that they don't want to do them and rather kill the easy mode? |
| 18:57.48 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i'm sure there are those, but i would also like a socially competent guild and raid/guild lead .. so i actually have real *fun* during a raid, or even in off-hours .. and those in combination are hard to find :/ |
| 18:58.05 | Tristanian | almost impossible to find these days |
| 18:58.08 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: note I didn't say they're easy to find. :D |
| 18:58.11 | Tristanian | with the current implementation |
| 18:58.20 | Gnarfoz | that has nothing to do with implementation |
| 18:58.22 | VonhintenHOME` | Gnarfoz, to be honest, other than the fact that I'd love to be raiding in a guild of people that are more at my level of play, I'm a little disappointed that Ulduar wasn't another Naxx25 |
| 18:58.34 | cncfanatics | I'd have stopped WoW if it was |
| 18:58.36 | durcyn | i like the idea of keeping hard mode loot out of the hands of bads, but after all that time on PTR the tuning is still terrible, thorim and hodir are too easy, freya has too much You Simply Fucking Died overlapping damage, and Mimiron's still a clusterfuck |
| 18:58.36 | Pneumatus | im the opposite of dissapointed |
| 18:58.38 | cncfanatics | naxx25 is sooooo boring |
| 18:58.42 | Gnarfoz | well, at 3.0 release everyone was crying that Naxx was a fucking joke |
| 18:58.44 | Gnarfoz | and rightfully so |
| 18:58.47 | nevcairiel | i'm dsappointed that it wasnt a naxx40 tbh :P |
| 18:58.49 | durcyn | the difficulty tuning is just garbage |
| 18:58.52 | VonhintenHOME` | Naxx25 was very good for my guild. We got through it without many road blocks, and we all had fun raiding together in there. |
| 18:58.55 | Tristanian | Gnarfoz if you are serious about hard modes in Ulduar then there is very little time for "socializing" |
| 18:58.56 | Pneumatus | naxx25 was recycled cheapened naxx40 |
| 18:59.04 | Gnarfoz | Tristanian: not true at all |
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| 18:59.19 | cncfanatics | Tristanian: Lies, there's plenty of corpseruns to socialize in, also before and after raids |
| 18:59.22 | VonhintenHOME` | Yes, it wasn't very challenging, but for the raiders in my guild, it was fun time together.. which is what it's all supposed to be about |
| 18:59.26 | Pneumatus | we only raid 4 nights a week, and concentrate on hardmodes for at least 2 of those nights |
| 18:59.28 | Tristanian | well there's that ye |
| 18:59.30 | Tristanian | hehe |
| 18:59.38 | cncfanatics | Pneumatus: GIEFV ? |
| 18:59.39 | nevcairiel | you can still have fun in voice while doing hardmodes |
| 18:59.40 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1963 ARLDatamine.lua: Add more player type flags to the dataminer. |
| 18:59.40 | nevcairiel | why not? |
| 18:59.52 | nevcairiel | it works for us right now |
| 18:59.55 | Gnarfoz | Tristanian: depends entirely on the level of "seriousness". For us, being serious also includes limiting our raid times to the times we set forth. 4 hours on 3 days. There's plenty of time to do other stuff and just hang around :) |
| 18:59.59 | Tristanian | well most of time you will be analyzing the encounter :p |
| 19:00.04 | nevcairiel | except that our people cry half the time |
| 19:00.07 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r1964 RecipeDB/ARL-Inscription.lua: fixed incription levels for some recipes. |
| 19:00.16 | Tristanian | nev recruit new people :p |
| 19:00.29 | Tristanian | bench the whiners |
| 19:00.35 | nevcairiel | thats fine, Tristanian, i just don't want stupid leads that solve all problems by yelling at everyone |
| 19:00.44 | Tristanian | never said yell |
| 19:00.47 | Tristanian | :p |
| 19:00.53 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 19:00.54 | cncfanatics | Analyzing what happened is a good idea |
| 19:00.58 | Gnarfoz | my realm is rp-pvp, most of the players are really nice people overall, but the hardest part is to find people who can even take our modest raiding schedule :X |
| 19:01.08 | cncfanatics | Yelling at people YOU STOOD IN THE FIRE, is just useless, they also know they stood in it, and if they have a clue they won't again |
| 19:01.18 | Pneumatus | 25 man raids are our serious time, but 10mans on off-nights are really relaxed and a lot of fun, even if we're pumping out 10man hard achievements |
| 19:01.20 | Tristanian | bench them once and you will notice a tremendous change in concentration the next time they come to the raid :P |
| 19:01.28 | nevcairiel | we have one officier who is like that, i kinda hate him |
| 19:01.28 | NeoTron | I've found that we have an issue in my guild at the moment |
| 19:01.31 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: there's always those who don't know they did. yay for Yogg clouds :D |
| 19:01.43 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: That's the kind of people I don't want to raid with |
| 19:01.45 | NeoTron | people fail to think sufficiently themselves so if me or someone else stops ordering people around we wipe |
| 19:01.45 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: indeed |
| 19:01.48 | cncfanatics | I REALLY Don't want to raid with that :/ |
| 19:01.50 | nevcairiel | Tristanian: its not easy finding good people, especially because we raid 5 days, and alot of people don't want that |
| 19:01.57 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: nobody wants to raid with those ;D |
| 19:02.03 | Tristanian | I know |
| 19:02.06 | cncfanatics | Haha so true |
| 19:02.16 | Tristanian | dont want it either but I do want to finish the freaking instance |
| 19:02.17 | VonhintenHOME` | NeoTron, I have that same problem.. in spades |
| 19:02.18 | Tristanian | at some point :p |
| 19:02.30 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.38 | VonhintenHOME` | NeoTron, not enough independant thinkers, not enough people that are generally just good at the game... they're average players |
| 19:02.39 | nevcairiel | our dps is usually just bad, all-in-all |
| 19:02.45 | durcyn | cncfanatics: you mean us, screw eu =P |
| 19:02.55 | cncfanatics | Noes, EU :( |
| 19:02.57 | nevcairiel | i tell people that other guilds do encounters with more healers, and still beat the timers |
| 19:03.06 | Tristanian | liar liar :p |
| 19:03.15 | nevcairiel | but we fail with even less healers |
| 19:03.20 | nevcairiel | like the XT |
| 19:03.25 | VonhintenHOME` | There is a huge disparity in DPS I've noticed lately... |
| 19:03.26 | Tristanian | depends on the hardmode |
| 19:03.26 | cncfanatics | We lack dps as well, we got rid of the sucky ones and now struggle to fill our dps spots, Sadly, Our officers are morons |
| 19:03.26 | nevcairiel | we couldnt even kill the damn heart |
| 19:03.27 | NeoTron | for the most part people aren't bad |
| 19:03.34 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: I predict DBM will get into the middle of that and destroy it quickly. :D |
| 19:03.38 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: it was rather hard for us to do that too |
| 19:03.46 | Tristanian | as far as my experience goes, hard modes are mostly a DPS issue |
| 19:03.47 | durcyn | nevcairiel: heart is hard to kill in 25 without heroism and healers dpsing though, so much hp |
| 19:03.51 | Tristanian | except maybe mimiron p2 |
| 19:04.04 | cncfanatics | mimiron phase 2 is easy once you get the hang of it |
| 19:04.06 | NeoTron | hard to kill without heroism? I'd say impossible |
| 19:04.07 | nevcairiel | one of our yelli-dps-officers blamed everything on too many healers in the raid, of course |
| 19:04.08 | cncfanatics | Hardmode is another story though |
| 19:04.16 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: how many healers did you have? |
| 19:04.18 | durcyn | Tristanian: nah, freya's 100% execution |
| 19:04.22 | cncfanatics | Phase 2 mimi hardmode is just a nightmare |
| 19:04.23 | nevcairiel | but i insisted that we need them for earthquake in hard :P |
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| 19:04.27 | durcyn | NeoTron: well, yeah. |
| 19:04.39 | Axodious | from what aspect cncfanatics? |
| 19:04.42 | Tristanian | I know, hence 5 priests spamming holy nova :P |
| 19:04.45 | steev | durcyn: hrm, i still fail :) |
| 19:04.47 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: 6 i think, or 5 and a half (ele shaman that was supposed to heal in tantrum) |
| 19:04.47 | Axodious | i didn't find much problem as ranged dps |
| 19:04.54 | steev | http://steev.net/stasis/sws-vezax-1243915921/ |
| 19:04.56 | cncfanatics | Axodious: if one healer dies, you might as well wipe it, which is damn anoying |
| 19:05.00 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Jim-Bim 07master * Alpha1-141-gc27a9d8 / (14 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 19:05.01 | VonhintenHOME` | we can't run without 6 healers |
| 19:05.02 | NeoTron | we ended up settling with 2 tanks, 6 healers |
| 19:05.03 | durcyn | steev: i specifically modified that version to ignore broken reports even |
| 19:05.03 | Repo | c27a9d8: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/collectinator/mainline |
| 19:05.07 | cncfanatics | True for normal mode as well to a lesser extent |
| 19:05.13 | NeoTron | and for the most part made itpast heart |
| 19:05.16 | VonhintenHOME` | We run with 3 tanks most of the time, found it was more stable |
| 19:05.18 | nevcairiel | and of course healers helped dps the heart |
| 19:05.20 | Repo | 320ec1c: the frame now shows up! |
| 19:05.21 | Tristanian | durcyn now that the Snaplasher is nerfed, I don't really care that much about Freya :p |
| 19:05.24 | NeoTron | we had a lock respec from aff to demo for example |
| 19:05.32 | nevcairiel | they nerfed snaplasher? |
| 19:05.33 | nevcairiel | oh comeone |
| 19:05.34 | cncfanatics | Snaplasher got nerfed ? :o |
| 19:05.38 | cncfanatics | How ? |
| 19:05.40 | durcyn | Tentacled: it's not the snaplasher, it's fucking lightning lash and ground tremor stacking up |
| 19:05.47 | Tristanian | yes |
| 19:05.49 | Axodious | pretty much if anyone dies at anypoint though it's a wipe :p, you need bres/soulstone for p4 |
| 19:05.51 | Tristanian | we used stamina gear for that |
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| 19:05.54 | Tristanian | and hp flask |
| 19:05.56 | Tristanian | to all casters |
| 19:05.59 | Tristanian | for the first kill :p |
| 19:06.05 | steev | durcyn: its not about broken reports - it shows up, just not if i use index.php |
| 19:06.23 | cncfanatics | Meh, WTB guild doing hardmodes for real :D |
| 19:06.24 | durcyn | even so, you still get random shit like that happening, like water spirit goes immune to stuns for some reason and all 3 hit at once |
| 19:06.26 | nevcairiel | we should really form a new guild =P |
| 19:06.29 | durcyn | like i said, 100% execution |
| 19:06.48 | durcyn | or all of the detonating lashers decide to target one person for giggles >_> |
| 19:06.53 | NeoTron | we can't even do fricking frya +1 |
| 19:07.02 | Axodious | we attempted freya +3 last week with no stam gear/flask... big mistake |
| 19:07.03 | Axodious | lol |
| 19:07.07 | Gnarfoz | how can you not manage +1 |
| 19:07.11 | nevcairiel | we only did +1 so far, i think with the sunbeam dude |
| 19:07.12 | durcyn | i'd go so far as to say the 25-man version is the successor to muru, NeoTron |
| 19:07.13 | cncfanatics | My current guild is struggling at killing yoggy |
| 19:07.24 | nevcairiel | or wait, with the root dude |
| 19:07.25 | NeoTron | see comment above about people failing if not told what to do |
| 19:07.26 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: we're struggling at yogg, in 25, too |
| 19:07.29 | Axodious | ugh yogg 10 man p1 is so annyoing |
| 19:07.40 | Axodious | my group keeps killing the adds -_- |
| 19:07.40 | VonhintenHOME` | I agree |
| 19:07.43 | NeoTron | even worse in one night fo attempts we had this warlock have is felguard (a non-trivial amount of damage) 100% on freya |
| 19:07.46 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: "Struggling: Not being able to fill our slots in progress nights" |
| 19:07.52 | Gnarfoz | heh, yeah |
| 19:07.53 | Pneumatus | yogg 10man just tank everything at sara and ignore the fact your popping clouds all over the place :o |
| 19:07.54 | NeoTron | despite being calle dout first anonymously, and then by name, on vent |
| 19:08.04 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: spread out the loot bosses evenly among the raid nights. :P |
| 19:08.07 | Axodious | thats what we do pretty much Pneumatus |
| 19:08.16 | Gnarfoz | i.e. leave razorscale, ignis and council up until the last day ;> |
| 19:08.16 | NeoTron | and we had 3 locks 3 mages as primary root dpsers |
| 19:08.18 | Axodious | problem is dps goes pop and pulls aggro before tank gets to it |
| 19:08.21 | VonhintenHOME` | How can you do that without gibbing the tank? |
| 19:08.22 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: Once everything but yoggy is dead >.> |
| 19:08.24 | NeoTron | the same lock didn't do a single point of damage to root |
| 19:08.34 | Alarisha | hey guys - is there an way to check if a value is in a table? so I could do an if value isinthetableiwant then ? |
| 19:08.34 | durcyn | NeoTron: again, execution =P |
| 19:08.36 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: well, don't kill everything until the last night, then. ;) |
| 19:08.38 | Pneumatus | heal the tank |
| 19:08.42 | NeoTron | and unfortunately we barely got enough dps |
| 19:08.47 | Pneumatus | and dont pop too many guardians at once |
| 19:08.51 | NeoTron | durcyn: right. need to replace a few people but missing the ppl |
| 19:08.53 | Axodious | we kill shit stuff 1st night |
| 19:08.57 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: People still wouldn't show up if ignis, razorscale & council were alive |
| 19:08.59 | VonhintenHOME` | Even with a DK tank, we couldn't handle that much damage, they spawned too fast for us |
| 19:09.01 | Axodious | leave hard modes were workingo n tilll last couple of nights |
| 19:09.03 | durcyn | Alarisha: depends on how the table is keyed, either table[element] or for k,v in pairs(table) do if v==element then dostuff break end |
| 19:09.15 | VonhintenHOME` | But, we're a little melee heavy |
| 19:09.17 | Gnarfoz | we cleared 10man with the core of "know what to do and when to do it" people already and are doing hardmodes there, but 25man we haven't killed yogg yet. p1 is still a pain in the ass because of either people triggering clouds or too low DPS; p2 takes like 6-7 brain phases, wtf. |
| 19:09.24 | Tristanian | we always have problems with killing guardians too fast and not on top of Sara :p |
| 19:09.27 | Pneumatus | you cant sensibly leave hardmodes to the last nights anyway |
| 19:09.33 | Pneumatus | seeing as they tend to block progression :P |
| 19:09.41 | Axodious | 6-7 o_o |
| 19:09.45 | Alarisha | thanks, durcyn |
| 19:09.48 | Gnarfoz | extrapolated, we never reached p3 |
| 19:09.50 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: that's sad, really :P |
| 19:09.51 | VonhintenHOME` | my 10 man has done XT hard mode in 10man only... I think we can get Hodir and Thorim |
| 19:09.56 | Axodious | if you don't do it in 3 (i think) you can't kill it |
| 19:10.00 | Axodious | was 3 or 4 |
| 19:10.01 | VonhintenHOME` | and yogg still not done |
| 19:10.02 | NeoTron | 10 man xt wasn't EASY but sure as heck wasn't hard |
| 19:10.04 | Gnarfoz | 4 works fine, too |
| 19:10.08 | Gnarfoz | should be 3 though, really |
| 19:10.09 | NeoTron | yogg in 10 man is trivial |
| 19:10.13 | VonhintenHOME` | 10 man XT was pretty easy for us |
| 19:10.13 | Gnarfoz | in 10man we're doing it in 2 phases, lol |
| 19:10.16 | Axodious | same |
| 19:10.21 | nevcairiel | 10man XT is so damn easy |
| 19:10.24 | Tristanian | yep its facerolling |
| 19:10.24 | nevcairiel | including the hardmode |
| 19:10.25 | Tristanian | :P |
| 19:10.28 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: 6-7? jesus, are you wearing level 70 greens? |
| 19:10.33 | NeoTron | did yogg with 2 wipes in 10 man |
| 19:10.44 | Axodious | i wonder if you can cheese the portals by having ppl count down and click the same time |
| 19:10.47 | NeoTron | durcyn: likely ppl don't zone in correctly |
| 19:10.53 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: no, people dead, stuck in constrictors, insane, bad at targetting the tentacles in the brain room,... I really don't know. :D |
| 19:10.59 | Tristanian | Axodious : No :p |
| 19:10.59 | Axodious | on the same portal, so like 2 ppl each portal |
| 19:11.05 | nevcairiel | i never did yogg in 10man yet, kinda silly .. we always did him on the 2nd night on the 10man raids, and i can never be there that day =P |
| 19:11.06 | VonhintenHOME` | If you have the DPS to actually kill the heart in 10 man, we're pretty much good.. long as you have the heals |
| 19:11.09 | durcyn | oh, speaking of portals |
| 19:11.17 | Gnarfoz | did they fix the bug? |
| 19:11.17 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:11.24 | NeoTron | I found that once we placed people at an approximate spot for portals (individual portal assignments) inside went a lot better |
| 19:11.26 | Gnarfoz | with constrictors disconnecting or even crashing you? |
| 19:11.29 | durcyn | i saw a rogue get grabbed by a constrictor after taking his portal last night, then get hit by induce, it was amazing |
| 19:11.38 | Tristanian | yes that is annoying |
| 19:11.39 | Axodious | thats what we do NeoTron |
| 19:11.44 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: our xt 10 man issue was that with 2 healers they went OOM around 3040% |
| 19:11.46 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: I have that on video from 1st person perspective. on youtube, too. :p |
| 19:11.50 | Axodious | before we pull one of the officers drags everyone back a bit |
| 19:11.51 | nevcairiel | well apparently they made the spawn of the tentacles faster after porting into the brain |
| 19:11.53 | NeoTron | even with 3 healers we had healer mana issues |
| 19:11.56 | nevcairiel | that may shave of 2-3 seconds |
| 19:11.57 | Axodious | drops a flare or somethign ot be the boss |
| 19:11.59 | Axodious | and sets up spots |
| 19:12.13 | cncfanatics | NeoTron: Huh ? I used to 2heal ulduar 10, granted that wasn't hardmodes, but still |
| 19:12.20 | nevcairiel | we did nearly full Uld10 with 2 healers |
| 19:12.20 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1965 ARLDatamine.lua: Add class checking to the tooltip scanning. |
| 19:12.22 | NeoTron | cncfanatics: I'm talking about hardmode XT |
| 19:12.26 | cncfanatics | Oh |
| 19:12.26 | nevcairiel | only on council hard we got a third |
| 19:12.27 | VonhintenHOME` | NeoTron, you need a resto druid with that trinket off Kologarn 10 :) |
| 19:12.28 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that'll certainly help, but DPS seems fucking low for us, still |
| 19:12.35 | Axodious | im really surprised they havent buffed thorim 10 hard mode yet |
| 19:12.37 | Axodious | its a serious joke |
| 19:12.42 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I don't know what exactly my DPS are doing there :P |
| 19:12.42 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 19:12.50 | Tristanian | they wont buff the 10 mans |
| 19:12.51 | Tristanian | forget it |
| 19:12.55 | cncfanatics | I remember us wiping on that at 50% when someone ninjapulled the hardmode |
| 19:13.00 | cncfanatics | without tactics or even knowing what she does |
| 19:13.02 | Tristanian | if anything they'll nerf them more :p |
| 19:13.06 | nevcairiel | mimiron10-hard is still kinda extreme compared to the other hards |
| 19:13.06 | Axodious | i dont care if they do or dont, just surprising |
| 19:13.17 | Tristanian | nev try 25 :p |
| 19:13.18 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: should be a bit easier as of today |
| 19:13.20 | Axodious | they need to do something for pets in mim hard |
| 19:13.23 | VonhintenHOME` | Spark of Hope (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45703) + Resto Druid with good spirit = man for days |
| 19:13.24 | Axodious | doomfires hit pets atm |
| 19:13.26 | Axodious | which really sucks |
| 19:13.32 | VonhintenHOME` | man=mana |
| 19:13.33 | Tristanian | and mirror images |
| 19:13.34 | nevcairiel | VonhintenHOME`: wtb that trinket =( |
| 19:13.38 | Tristanian | and yet our mages |
| 19:13.40 | Tristanian | use them still |
| 19:13.41 | Tristanian | .... |
| 19:13.44 | nevcairiel | but then again, i just quit raiding =P |
| 19:13.48 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: yeah I need that too.. good for frost dps! ;-) |
| 19:13.52 | Axodious | i play a meta lock and its like"lol there goes 1/3rd your dps and your raid utility" |
| 19:13.59 | VonhintenHOME` | Good for Arcane DPS apparently too |
| 19:14.05 | ckknight | @ticket curseforge 1480 is now fixed |
| 19:14.06 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1480 - Primary & Secondary Categories. Reported by: Pneumatus. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 17 seconds ago. Component: Projects. Status: Fixed. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: +5. Comments: 0 |
| 19:14.06 | durcyn | nevcairiel: yeah, mimiron is just stupidly tuned, maybe 3.1.3 will fix it |
| 19:14.07 | NeoTron | Axodious: dual spec r good |
| 19:14.15 | VonhintenHOME` | The reduction scales with Arcane Blast's increase apparently |
| 19:14.15 | Axodious | yeah i had to switch to destro |
| 19:14.23 | Axodious | but then we lose the like 250 sp from demo pact |
| 19:14.24 | NeoTron | I switched from unholy to frost |
| 19:14.27 | Axodious | which we lose anyways |
| 19:14.39 | Axodious | (250 over the resto shaman totem) |
| 19:14.43 | NeoTron | mind you now I went full time frost dps before it's funner |
| 19:14.59 | NeoTron | much more interactive spec |
| 19:15.10 | VonhintenHOME` | Ebon Plaguebringer > * |
| 19:15.13 | durcyn | you're not getting 250 over the totem, it's still bugged with fel armor spirit bonus |
| 19:15.27 | Axodious | ! it is?! |
| 19:15.42 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: we have another UH dk now.. and that only matters on fights with magic aoe |
| 19:15.45 | Pneumatus | ckknight: you could do something funky with javascript to disable the checkbox of the selected primary category probably :> |
| 19:15.47 | durcyn | it's a warlock bug, they don't get fixed |
| 19:15.48 | Pneumatus | but pro |
| 19:15.54 | Axodious | god damnit -_- |
| 19:16.04 | *** join/#wowace Soulsbane (n=chatzill@174.32.26.128) |
| 19:16.09 | durcyn | i mean, hey, feel free to test it and prove me wrong |
| 19:16.13 | Axodious | speaking of that though durcyn i've got a question about it |
| 19:16.17 | durcyn | you won't catch me speccing DP any time soon |
| 19:16.18 | Gnarfoz | any Germany based people around who rent a dedicated server from Hetzner? |
| 19:16.24 | Axodious | is it affected by like illustration stacks |
| 19:16.30 | durcyn | afaik yes |
| 19:16.30 | Axodious | or procs etc |
| 19:16.40 | durcyn | it was spirit specifically that broke |
| 19:16.44 | Axodious | k |
| 19:16.56 | Axodious | i'll have to go check that, so annoying |
| 19:17.08 | ckknight | Pneumatus: eh, I could. |
| 19:17.09 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 19:17.13 | Axodious | i switched from my ele shaman to my warlock recently simply for the fact that deom pact scales |
| 19:17.19 | NeoTron | as I wipe to hardmodes I am reminded that it could in fact be worse |
| 19:17.21 | durcyn | yeah, it's a pretty junk bug |
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| 19:17.32 | NeoTron | like a guild that just got server first yogg kill... in 10 man... after 47 wipes |
| 19:17.35 | durcyn | link me your pact spec, axo? |
| 19:17.49 | Axodious | it's the cookie cutter from ej 56 15 |
| 19:17.49 | durcyn | i haven't settled on one i don't hate yet |
| 19:17.53 | durcyn | meh. |
| 19:18.20 | durcyn | i really wanted 0/50/21 to work, but that's asking too much |
| 19:18.26 | Axodious | lol |
| 19:18.43 | NeoTron | raids as 0/41/30 on his warlock. |
| 19:18.52 | NeoTron | but it's just an alt and I still have 4xt6 :P |
| 19:19.16 | NeoTron | I hopped in a siege engine last night and its health went from the default 1.1m to 450k. |
| 19:19.20 | nevcairiel | Its still kinda sad that there is like one spec for resto druids, and you can maybe move 3 points around to your liking |
| 19:19.20 | Axodious | i'm trying to get our destro locks to go 41 30 for freay +3 |
| 19:19.24 | nevcairiel | wtb variation in speccing |
| 19:19.26 | Axodious | way better than replcaing gear imo |
| 19:19.37 | durcyn | Axodious: 0/13/58 is amazing for freya |
| 19:19.39 | VonhintenHOME` | lol neotron, take off all your gear, it defaults to i200 :) |
| 19:19.44 | NeoTron | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Aminai <-- leet sauce |
| 19:19.45 | Tristanian | dont cry nev its worse for moonkins ;) |
| 19:19.48 | Axodious | not so much for surviving though :p |
| 19:19.49 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: I went as a gunner instead |
| 19:20.09 | chiper | VonhintenHOME`: really? oooo |
| 19:20.10 | durcyn | Axodious: except when you accidentaly conflag the snaplasher and proc aftermath which for some godamn dumb reason removes the slow |
| 19:20.11 | Axodious | 41 30 is the highest felguard dps spec atm, and it gives the 25% damage reduction + hp upgrades |
| 19:21.03 | Axodious | as meta i don't have to replace any gear for it, my effective health with the damage reduciton is like 31k orsomething |
| 19:21.13 | NeoTron | 5 pieces of t6/sunwell gear left |
| 19:21.15 | Axodious | omg, too much coffee this morning, keep typo'ing |
| 19:21.16 | nevcairiel | anyone had issues running Steam on Win7? mine doesnt start and creates crash-dump files when trying |
| 19:21.28 | Axodious | nope nevcairiel |
| 19:21.32 | Axodious | you running rc1? |
| 19:21.33 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: never tried but tried running it in windows vista compatibility mode? |
| 19:21.40 | nevcairiel | Axodious: yeah 7100 |
| 19:21.40 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Jim-Bim 07master * Alpha1-142-g58a2f34 CollectinatorFrame.lua: [+1 commit] removed remaining class stuff, changed title |
| 19:21.46 | durcyn | nevcairiel: it died for me on 7100 when i just copied it from my backup drive, had to reinstall it from the MSI |
| 19:21.54 | nevcairiel | bah |
| 19:21.55 | Axodious | haven't had any issues, i installed it from scratch |
| 19:21.56 | nevcairiel | dun wanna |
| 19:21.57 | durcyn | it's fine without compat mode now |
| 19:22.00 | chiper | nevcairiel: nope, didnt even have to reinstall, my old XP install still worked |
| 19:22.00 | nevcairiel | its like 30gb of packages |
| 19:22.09 | Axodious | thats probably the problem then |
| 19:22.16 | chiper | tho it did update itself |
| 19:22.21 | nevcairiel | well ok 13gb only |
| 19:22.23 | nevcairiel | but still |
| 19:22.27 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1966 ARLDatamine.lua: |
| 19:22.30 | Repo | Add a function to scan the entire recipe database tooltips. This may blow shit up. |
| 19:22.32 | NeoTron | on the scale of things how hard is hard mode council in 25 man? |
| 19:22.35 | Axodious | nev |
| 19:22.40 | Axodious | what about trying |
| 19:22.44 | Axodious | install from scratch |
| 19:22.48 | Axodious | then copy the old dir into it |
| 19:22.50 | Axodious | but don't replace |
| 19:22.57 | nevcairiel | yeah i'm doing that |
| 19:23.07 | chiper | I have had problems getting some steam games to work in win7 tho. |
| 19:23.22 | nevcairiel | i own the orange box, and all i ever played out of it was portal |
| 19:23.26 | nevcairiel | i wanted to try some tf2 |
| 19:23.28 | durcyn | nevcairiel: just reinstall the client on top of the backup, it'll use the existing files |
| 19:24.11 | durcyn | there's nothing fancier than path checking when you launch |
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| 19:24.21 | durcyn | well, it did delete my tf2 config, but i blame the patch for that |
| 19:24.23 | Axodious | tf2 is fun for spare time |
| 19:24.28 | nicoli_s | indeed |
| 19:24.36 | nevcairiel | i'm not really good on fps usually |
| 19:24.37 | Axodious | i really hate the whole random drop weapon crap |
| 19:24.41 | nevcairiel | but tf2 looks like fun |
| 19:24.43 | nicoli_s | they fixed that Axodious |
| 19:24.47 | Axodious | oh? |
| 19:24.49 | Axodious | back to achievements? |
| 19:24.52 | nicoli_s | both nows |
| 19:24.57 | Axodious | sweet |
| 19:24.59 | nicoli_s | but less chance for random |
| 19:25.06 | durcyn | there are milestones now yeah |
| 19:25.06 | Funkeh` | thats the funny thing |
| 19:25.08 | Funkeh` | thats what games are for |
| 19:25.14 | Funkeh` | spare time |
| 19:25.16 | Funkeh` | some people just dont get that |
| 19:25.22 | durcyn | i still haven't gotten a freaking hat though :( |
| 19:25.23 | Axodious | psh |
| 19:25.31 | nicoli_s | what hats do they have? |
| 19:25.33 | Axodious | wow is srs business |
| 19:25.45 | durcyn | each class has one hat |
| 19:25.47 | Funkeh` | so is.... your mum! |
| 19:25.49 | Funkeh` | harhar |
| 19:25.51 | durcyn | so far |
| 19:26.04 | durcyn | it's just a different visual, nothing too fancy |
| 19:26.07 | chiper | I'm more of an L4D fan then TF2, but you can't play L4D for just 15 minutes |
| 19:26.24 | durcyn | the scout one is great, it's like a retarded kid's safety helmet, i giggled for five minutes when i saw it |
| 19:26.31 | Funkeh` | sure you can |
| 19:26.33 | Funkeh` | survival mode |
| 19:26.34 | chiper | it's like a raid. once you start a versus match, you're there till the end |
| 19:26.52 | Axodious | how do you see what achievements give stuff? |
| 19:26.59 | Axodious | i didnt play before the random drop crap |
| 19:27.00 | chiper | yeah, I suppose. I'm not liking survival as much as versus |
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| 19:27.17 | durcyn | Axodious: individual achievements don't mater, you just have to get X number of class achievements for each unlock milestone |
| 19:27.20 | durcyn | matter* |
| 19:27.26 | Axodious | ah k |
| 19:28.08 | nicoli_s | chiper: you can play l4d in small segments if you play survival |
| 19:28.13 | nicoli_s | i never last more than a few minutes |
| 19:28.25 | chiper | human zombies > AI zombies |
| 19:28.31 | nevcairiel | l4d is on steam too, right? |
| 19:28.32 | chiper | the game is just more interesting |
| 19:28.37 | nicoli_s | yes |
| 19:29.18 | chiper | especially since the AI boomers and tanks are so retarded |
| 19:29.27 | Axodious | ok durcyn where can i see the milestones |
| 19:29.27 | Axodious | lol |
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| 19:31.01 | durcyn | Axodious: uhh, maybe near the bottom of the list |
| 19:31.13 | chiper | does anyone know what actionids the default blizzard UI uses for boomkin/tree stance bar? |
| 19:31.14 | Repo | 10autoroller: 03Mecdemort * r9 / (10 files in 3 directories): Added LDB launcher. |
| 19:31.17 | durcyn | Axodious: http://steamcommunity.com/id/frobbnik/stats/TF2?tab=achievements are mine, i'm not sure how it renders them in-game, but the milestones appear on the site |
| 19:31.17 | Repo | Option to disable chat output. |
| 19:31.19 | Repo | Reworked config for upcoming swap to using rules. |
| 19:31.36 | Axodious | errrr i have 8/we spy |
| 19:31.39 | Axodious | and i dont have the first milestone |
| 19:31.41 | Axodious | which says 5 |
| 19:32.25 | durcyn | it should've grandfathered you in the first time you joined a server after the milestone patch went in |
| 19:32.34 | Axodious | http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197966756518/stats/TF2 |
| 19:32.38 | Axodious | ah k |
| 19:33.11 | durcyn | i should reset my stats, scout heavy and medic are lopsided from achievement maps >_< |
| 19:33.27 | Axodious | lol you should see my engineer |
| 19:33.30 | Axodious | 5 hours |
| 19:33.34 | Axodious | next to 1 hour |
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| 19:33.48 | durcyn | don't talk to me about engineer, mine's somehow at 65 hours |
| 19:34.05 | ckknight | @project smart-res |
| 19:34.07 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/smart-res/. SmartRes. Game: WoW. myrroddin (Manager/Author), poull (Author). Updated: 45 days ago. Tickets: 1/2 |
| 19:34.14 | ckknight | aw, doesn't list categories |
| 19:34.15 | ckknight | oh well |
| 19:35.22 | Axodious | that was cool |
| 19:35.27 | Axodious | like bam 5 achievements |
| 19:35.27 | Axodious | lol |
| 19:36.27 | nevcairiel | wtf my Steam client added WoW in its game list |
| 19:36.42 | VonhintenHOME` | run, run away! |
| 19:36.58 | Axodious | if wow is installed it reads the games dir |
| 19:36.59 | Axodious | i think |
| 19:37.09 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: Steam can run arbitrary programs these days |
| 19:37.17 | Gnarfoz | it's basically a "game launcher" |
| 19:37.26 | Axodious | ^ |
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| 19:38.10 | Repo | In addon:addTradeSkill(): Moved most data initialization and comments to within the table constructor. Removed un-needed checks. |
| 19:39.35 | Repo | 10cutup: 03falconindy 06falconindy 07master * 7a716cd / (12 files in 3 directories): [new, +1 commit] Initial commit for clone |
| 19:40.31 | durcyn | well, it provides the profile and chat facilities as well as the in-game overlay, but yeah, it can fire off shortcuts, whoopdedoo =P |
| 19:41.48 | Gnarfoz | none of those would make me use Steam to launch wow, hehe |
| 19:42.37 | AckisWork | I think it'd be neat to have wow on steam :D |
| 19:42.38 | durcyn | i use it to inflate my steam profile 'played' hours ;) |
| 19:42.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:43.55 | cncfanatics | Anyone having issues with the guild roster ? |
| 19:44.04 | cncfanatics | It's ignoring my "show offline members" settings, which is really anoying |
| 19:44.19 | nevcairiel | always showing everyone, or never? |
| 19:44.45 | cncfanatics | Always showing everyone |
| 19:45.16 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Jim-Bim 07master * Alpha1-143-g03372a0 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] new dummy textures, open frame with current tab collection |
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| 19:47.23 | durcyn | do you have some addon that's calling SetGuildRosterShowOffline? i saw a couple of badly written ldb guild-display addons that did that instead of using GetNumGuildMembers correctly |
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| 19:49.00 | cncfanatics | No idea durcyn, I guess I do |
| 19:49.13 | steev | i find it interesting that desecrated ground is considered a pet |
| 19:49.28 | cncfanatics | It is ? :o |
| 19:49.36 | Axodious | durcyn |
| 19:49.40 | durcyn | Axodious |
| 19:49.45 | Axodious | fel armor is affectign demo pact |
| 19:49.49 | steev | according to stasis it is |
| 19:49.51 | durcyn | this is wonderful news |
| 19:49.59 | durcyn | by 180 or more? =P |
| 19:50.15 | Axodious | 229 unbuffed gain, 270 buffed with fel armor gain |
| 19:50.51 | durcyn | so 410, nice |
| 19:51.26 | Axodious | it's pretty awesome that unbuffed (with fel armor) i'm almost equal to an ele shaman now though ~_~ so much for hybrids being useful |
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| 19:51.56 | durcyn | yeah, you still need like 3000 spellpower buffed for it to be useful :( |
| 19:52.04 | durcyn | but the net Rdps gain is nice |
| 19:52.07 | VonhintenHOME` | well, the spell damage isn't the only thing shaman bring... |
| 19:52.17 | Axodious | well, rdps + more personal dps vs ele shaman |
| 19:52.22 | Axodious | we have all the other buffs VonhintenHOME` |
| 19:52.23 | durcyn | VonhintenHOME`: having a pact lock lets ele shaman use a fire totem, too |
| 19:52.40 | durcyn | which is what, ~350 dps for them? more? |
| 19:52.42 | VonhintenHOME` | We don't have a boomkin |
| 19:52.47 | Axodious | searing is suppose to be 400 |
| 19:53.24 | VonhintenHOME` | (we don't have an elemental or enhancement shaman either... we just fail at buffs) |
| 19:53.26 | durcyn | i know some mage is going to ask me to do ISB too if i go pact though |
| 19:53.29 | durcyn | VonhintenHOME`: get some |
| 19:53.33 | Axodious | i made a forum post about min maxing and every bitched me out for saying you only need 3 hybrids in a 25 raid :( |
| 19:53.40 | Axodious | hybrids in the tbc aspect |
| 19:53.52 | nevcairiel | people still think too much about tbc |
| 19:53.57 | durcyn | two paladins, two shamans, everything else is optional imo |
| 19:54.17 | steev | boo |
| 19:54.24 | Axodious | i can't remember what it was i think boomkin, ret pally |
| 19:54.24 | steev | WoL won't let you join 2 guilds |
| 19:54.44 | Axodious | and everything else could be brought by lesser dps "pure" dps classes (again in tbc aspect) |
| 19:54.52 | NeoTron | steev: neither does wow! |
| 19:54.59 | Axodious | ie melee crit brought by a fury warrior, demo pact brought by a warlock |
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| 19:55.05 | durcyn | Axodious: could be, but there are optimal sources of each |
| 19:55.08 | steev | NeoTron: it does if the toons are on 2 different servers |
| 19:55.22 | Axodious | the optmial sources come from the pure classes |
| 19:55.25 | NeoTron | I'm sure WoL lets you create two accounts and join different servers :P |
| 19:55.26 | durcyn | i.e. imp icy talons is a huge dps hit |
| 19:55.26 | Axodious | which is why i made the post |
| 19:55.39 | durcyn | Axodious: not always |
| 19:55.45 | Axodious | ~90% of them |
| 19:55.53 | durcyn | shaman buffs are better from shamans across the board |
| 19:55.59 | durcyn | well, except pact |
| 19:56.03 | VonhintenHOME` | Our raids are missing Ret Pally, Boomkin, Feral, Arms War, Ele and Enh shaman, sometimes even a warlock... |
| 19:56.04 | steev | durcyn: where else are you supposed to put the point(s)? |
| 19:56.05 | Axodious | i think the 3rd was enh |
| 19:56.12 | NeoTron | not to mention you need two dk's to bring what 1 enhance shaman does |
| 19:56.14 | durcyn | steev: 51/0/20 or go home |
| 19:56.16 | VonhintenHOME` | Too many fucking DK's |
| 19:56.26 | steev | durcyn: :( |
| 19:56.33 | NeoTron | durcyn: frost dps rules |
| 19:56.37 | steev | oh wait, today IS national leave work early day |
| 19:56.43 | steev | time to go home |
| 19:57.02 | steev | i can't help it, i like my unholy spec :( |
| 19:57.31 | Repo | 10autoroller: 03Mecdemort * r10 .pkgmeta: Fix .pkgmeta to point at the real libraries. |
| 19:57.37 | durcyn | unholy is for pvp assholes that like to kill casters and make me scream obscenities at them |
| 19:58.02 | durcyn | ams + gnaw + gargoyle + strangulate makes me cry :( |
| 19:58.02 | steev | well, i won't show the 10 man parse, but in 25s im usually top 5 dps |
| 19:58.11 | Shefki | durcyn: Warlock? |
| 19:58.13 | durcyn | steev: your other dps are probably bad then |
| 19:58.15 | durcyn | Shefki: yeah :( |
| 19:58.22 | VonhintenHOME` | Our Unholy DK competes with my rogue's damage |
| 19:58.22 | steev | durcyn: possible |
| 19:58.27 | NeoTron | all DK specs are fine |
| 19:58.32 | Shefki | durcyn: I'm sorry. |
| 19:58.45 | durcyn | i still haven't seen anyone outdps 51/0/20 NeoTron |
| 19:58.46 | steev | although im thinking of respeccing again and putting the points back into imp unholy presence |
| 19:58.49 | durcyn | even without the DRW bugs |
| 19:58.58 | steev | i was really feeling it last night in 10 |
| 19:59.13 | steev | having issues keeping up with vezax when he would chase after the tank |
| 19:59.13 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.19 | NeoTron | besides, it truly depends on the right too |
| 19:59.33 | Axodious | http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/?c=n4f38bqtsg6o000d000000000000000000000000 |
| 19:59.36 | NeoTron | steev: chase the tank? tank stays put, heal through the damage |
| 19:59.36 | durcyn | NeoTron: http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/573 take your pick |
| 19:59.44 | Axodious | that raid setup durcyn gives you everything |
| 19:59.58 | steev | NeoTron: it was our first time, we stuck with the kite him strat |
| 20:00.02 | durcyn | Axodious: that javascript chokes in elinks, fie. |
| 20:00.21 | Axodious | eww wtext browser :P |
| 20:00.34 | steev | Axodious: erm, except a tank? |
| 20:00.41 | durcyn | i don't have a proxy set up at work, Axodious |
| 20:00.43 | Axodious | im talking from buffs/debuffs |
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| 20:01.34 | Axodious | and unholy is a tank spec no? |
| 20:02.03 | durcyn | you can tank as any spec |
| 20:02.20 | durcyn | we've been using 56/8/7 lately, to each his own i suppose |
| 20:02.25 | NeoTron | durcyn: I seem to mostly match or outdps aeren |
| 20:03.15 | durcyn | NeoTron: check again tomorrow, he just got a mjolnir =P |
| 20:03.19 | Axodious | steev yes this is a bit silly but this just shows my example http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/?c=n4f38bqtsg6o6rrdurrrrrrrr000000000000000 you could have that which would be retarded amounts of dps on most ulduar fights |
| 20:03.20 | NeoTron | naturally it depends on the fight too but I don't see anything that makes me go zomgwtf |
| 20:03.42 | Axodious | purely from a min maxing standpoint on say IC hard |
| 20:03.44 | Axodious | that wins |
| 20:04.10 | NeoTron | durcyn: blood is clearly better on a fight like XT (but our blood DK did like 2k more dps than yours did for the past week :) |
| 20:04.27 | Axodious | anyway |
| 20:04.29 | Axodious | afk a bit |
| 20:04.33 | NeoTron | but frost and unholy are better on fights involving more than one target |
| 20:05.35 | NeoTron | anyhow I still maintain the differences are relatively trivial |
| 20:05.42 | NeoTron | and that any spec can be competetive |
| 20:05.47 | steev | i see misses! |
| 20:06.13 | durcyn | NeoTron: fair enough, but unholy can still go fornicate itself with a rusty pitchfork in pvp |
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| 20:07.25 | NeoTron | I don't pvp so.. that's fine :P |
| 20:07.35 | NeoTron | I was unholy for leveling until a few weeks ago |
| 20:07.42 | NeoTron | until I discovered that frost was more fun to play |
| 20:07.48 | NeoTron | just from a personal enjoyment point of view |
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| 20:10.27 | steev | apparently im supposed to switch to frost too since i got the new sigil and its supposed to make frost the omgwtfbbq dps |
| 20:10.49 | steev | im not switching any specs until i get a new damn weapon |
| 20:10.58 | Aeyan | Vengeful Heart? |
| 20:10.59 | steev | the hit rating shit is getting on my nerves |
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| 20:11.03 | steev | Aeyan: yeah |
| 20:11.10 | Aeyan | That's good for blood, too |
| 20:11.19 | steev | all of our dk's have it already |
| 20:12.50 | Bruners | how many videos is there on youtube? |
| 20:13.06 | cncfanatics | Bruners: Over 9000 |
| 20:13.30 | Repo | 10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r223 / (10 files in 9 directories): |
| 20:13.33 | Repo | Fixed various subview titles, and removed showing tooltips for them unless there is more than one. |
| 20:13.36 | Repo | Fixed SkadaEnemies to only show... enemies. |
| 20:15.28 | Bruners | cncfanatics: i was sure i have seen a counter somewhere |
| 20:15.44 | cncfanatics | Yea, and I'm sure it'll be over 9000 :p |
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| 20:15.54 | kadrahil | ckknight: i noticed yesterday when i was rescaling the party pet frames, pitbull would try to rescall the party frames as well.. and the player frame. |
| 20:16.16 | kadrahil | err |
| 20:16.16 | kadrahil | rescale |
| 20:16.57 | ckknight | pb3 or pb4? |
| 20:17.48 | kadrahil | ckknight: pb3 |
| 20:17.57 | ckknight | solution is to use pb4 |
| 20:18.12 | kadrahil | \o/ |
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| 20:23.56 | Bruners | is pb3 still maintained? |
| 20:24.21 | durcyn | barely if at all |
| 20:24.26 | Stanzilla | Daemona: can you do me a favour and ask which font this is? http://hdimage.org/images/p401o627yc0zsa2uf84x_algalondown.jpg ^^ |
| 20:25.03 | Daemona | hmm? |
| 20:25.13 | Daemona | nameplate or w00t`? |
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| 20:26.58 | Repo | 10skada: 03Zarnivoop 041.2-9 * r224 : Tagging as 1.2-9 |
| 20:28.13 | Stanzilla | Daemona: yeah and achievement text |
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| 20:30.37 | Repo | 966d7b7: Cleanup TOC |
| 20:30.40 | Repo | eff857e: Update TOC to 30100 |
| 20:33.18 | ckknight | Bruners: no, not really |
| 20:33.19 | ckknight | :P |
| 20:34.03 | Daemona | i'd gladly help you Stanzilla but... the screenshot is from our current GM and he fails at raiding gchat and i am not interupting them on a 1light yogg pull to ask about fonts ;) |
| 20:34.24 | nevcairiel | fonts are more important |
| 20:34.25 | nevcairiel | srsly |
| 20:34.29 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r112 / (7 files in 2 directories): - Added an option to enable or disable the printing of |
| 20:34.33 | Repo | the header to the chat. |
| 20:34.37 | Repo | - Updated encounter database. |
| 20:34.49 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r113 Abilities/Abilities.lua: - Added an option to show an abilities summary in the |
| 20:34.53 | Repo | NPC tooltip. |
| 20:34.55 | Repo | - Added additional events to abilities recording. |
| 20:35.04 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r114 PersonalNotes/PersonalNotes.lua: - Personal notes can now grow up to 2000 bytes. |
| 20:35.26 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r115 Tactics/Tactics-enUS.lua: Updated tactics |
| 20:36.00 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r116 HISTORY.txt: Updated tactics database. |
| 20:36.13 | Daemona | if so nevcairiel feel free to take a guess ;) http://hdimage.org/images/p401o627yc0zsa2uf84x_algalondown.jpg |
| 20:36.28 | VonhintenHOME` | That looks like Bob's Font |
| 20:36.32 | VonhintenHOME` | That's my guess |
| 20:36.35 | nevcairiel | i'm not big on fonts |
| 20:36.57 | nevcairiel | i use calibri and am happy with that |
| 20:38.26 | VonhintenHOME` | finally figured out what was causing EPGP to shit itself... bad alt reference in officer note |
| 20:39.43 | Axodious | http://www.identifont.com/identify?33+%20+2U+3A+58D+B6F+1U7+PAF+2L+56W+5Q+G39+1QN+DG+J+9J+76P+2BS+30C+1KS+8N+8F+2F+75+8E+6X5+53K+79+6XA+9Z+1KI+8B+1QY+7G+8R2+M |
| 20:39.53 | Axodious | try looking at those 10 Daemona |
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| 20:40.07 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r117 / (4 files in 2 directories): Added zhTW locale. |
| 20:40.10 | Daemona | Stanzilla ^^ |
| 20:40.23 | Axodious | er stan yea |
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| 20:41.00 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 041.0.2 * r118 : Tagging as 1.0.2 |
| 20:41.13 | Pneumatus | any of the bigbrother maintainers about? |
| 20:41.57 | Aeyan | Could be Noir |
| 20:42.14 | Aeyan | Nope, wait, the numbers are wrong. |
| 20:42.20 | Axodious | looks like sharktooth |
| 20:42.40 | Axodious | nope, 6 is wrong |
| 20:42.47 | Aeyan | No, all the lowercase are wrong in that one |
| 20:43.33 | Axodious | lightbox perhaps? |
| 20:43.59 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r1969 AckisRecipeList.lua: Fixed addTradeSkill(): Copypasta fail. |
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| 20:49.39 | durcyn | Pneumatus: bb has maintainers? =P actually, try cryect |
| 20:55.20 | Xinhuan | You earned the "Curator" achievement and gained 1 skill point by vaulting at least nine collection |
| 20:57.13 | durcyn | Mafia Wars? |
| 20:58.52 | AckisWork | yup |
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| 20:59.39 | NivFreak | so DK tanks lost like 3k armor today? |
| 20:59.47 | Aeyan | Daemona: Futura |
| 21:00.19 | Repo | 10syn-camera: 03Shefki 04v3.1.3 * r30 : Tagging as v3.1.3 |
| 21:00.37 | Aeyan | I haven't logged onto my DK yet, so I'm not sure the damage |
| 21:00.39 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 21:00.46 | NivFreak | what was your armor at before? |
| 21:01.09 | Pneumatus | @describe syn-camera |
| 21:01.11 | Repo | Pneumatus: http://www.wowace.com/projects/syn-camera/. SynCamera. Makes keyboard bindings for moving the camera |
| 21:01.45 | Aeyan | 29k, I believe |
| 21:01.51 | Aeyan | I've got it written down somewhere |
| 21:02.01 | NivFreak | so you should be down around 26 now |
| 21:02.39 | NivFreak | so they basically brought you in line with warriors |
| 21:02.45 | NivFreak | interesting |
| 21:02.49 | Fisker- | did you guys know that uranus is why the air france flight crashed? |
| 21:03.04 | durcyn | Fisker-: oh man that's terrible, what did uranus do |
| 21:03.05 | sztanpet | @describe syn-camera |
| 21:03.08 | Repo | sztanpet: http://www.wowace.com/projects/syn-camera/. SynCamera. Makes keyboard bindings for moving the camera |
| 21:03.08 | Aeyan | That'd be nice, if they gave us block too. |
| 21:03.22 | durcyn | Aeyan: except block is about junk right now |
| 21:03.22 | Fisker- | it had some tension durcyn |
| 21:03.27 | Aeyan | Honestly, all the nerfs and balancing is because of DKs superior cooldowns |
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| 21:03.33 | Venara | durcyn: Probably "World Shaking" (for those of you who know SM) |
| 21:03.45 | Aeyan | If they need to nerf IBF or such, then just do that and leave my passive mitigations alone |
| 21:04.01 | NivFreak | it's ok |
| 21:04.17 | NivFreak | with my 4pc t8, glyph'd SW and glyph'd LS, I'm almost a weak DK! |
| 21:04.40 | durcyn | NivFreak: you're missing 15K HP. |
| 21:04.50 | durcyn | okay, maybe 10 |
| 21:04.53 | NivFreak | no? |
| 21:05.01 | NivFreak | you have 53k hp? :P |
| 21:05.02 | durcyn | compared to the DK, you are, i mean |
| 21:05.12 | durcyn | our normal DK tank gets around 49 |
| 21:05.23 | Venara | fully raidbuffed? |
| 21:05.32 | durcyn | fully, with imp commanding shout etc |
| 21:05.41 | NivFreak | I prefer a set that puts me around 43k buffed, with capped expertise/hit |
| 21:05.45 | Fisker- | did you get it durcyn ? |
| 21:05.51 | NivFreak | I can push an extra 2k in pre-buffs |
| 21:05.54 | durcyn | Fisker-: i got uranus right here |
| 21:05.55 | Venara | nice, our dk tank is at ~46 now |
| 21:06.14 | NivFreak | but I don't end up gearing as agressively for stam anymore |
| 21:06.15 | Fisker- | but seriously |
| 21:06.20 | Fisker- | some astrologist said that |
| 21:06.35 | Aeyan | durcyn: I'm not arguing that they didn't/don't need rebalancing |
| 21:06.36 | Fisker- | "Uranus is technology and there was some tensions when the plane crashed" |
| 21:06.39 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 21:06.40 | Aeyan | Just blizzard's methods to do so |
| 21:07.16 | durcyn | Aeyan: IBF and VB -are- too good, but that just means warriors and paladins, and to a lesser extent, bears, need to be beefed up, in my arrogant opinion |
| 21:07.22 | Venara | Fisker-: so venus & mars are probably responsible for every couple that breaks up? ^^ |
| 21:07.53 | Fisker- | all i know is that tensions in uranus built up |
| 21:07.57 | Aeyan | Well, they're tossing around ideas for an additional paladin CD |
| 21:08.07 | Aeyan | Don't think I've heard about anything for warriros |
| 21:08.09 | Aeyan | warriors |
| 21:08.20 | vhaarr | as long as you have a 1min CD, I want one |
| 21:08.37 | durcyn | it's just laughable watching warriors get squished by things that DKs breeze through with cooldowns |
| 21:08.42 | Venara | Aeyan: They recently said something about having ideas for blocking / shield block |
| 21:09.01 | NivFreak | warriors are fine, block is useless as always, but it doesn't really matter |
| 21:09.05 | Venara | durcyn: Mimiron (p1) would be a good example |
| 21:09.07 | NivFreak | DKs just need chopped down |
| 21:09.11 | durcyn | Venara: and algalon |
| 21:09.52 | Aeyan | Yep, I'm down to 26k |
| 21:11.16 | NivFreak | what's your unbuffed health? |
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| 21:12.55 | Aeyan | 30455 |
| 21:13.01 | Aeyan | I'm just a Naxx level tank |
| 21:13.04 | Aeyan | Not Ulduar |
| 21:13.21 | Aeyan | I only get to take my priest there, hehe. |
| 21:15.47 | robotusch | 32k - I've had pretty much zero luck with tank drops |
| 21:15.54 | Gnarfoz | can macros check against "focus"? |
| 21:16.17 | Gnarfoz | or will they just skip to the next set of conditionals if something fails |
| 21:16.19 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: define 'check' in context, please |
| 21:16.28 | durcyn | you can use [target=focus,exists] |
| 21:16.37 | Gnarfoz | the usual conditionals all work against target |
| 21:16.38 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 21:16.39 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 21:16.49 | Gnarfoz | if I suffix them they refer to the unit given in target= |
| 21:16.51 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 21:17.04 | durcyn | 'exists' without a token implies 'target' |
| 21:17.49 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 21:17.52 | Gnarfoz | /cast [target=focus, exists][target=target, harm] Cyclone |
| 21:17.59 | Gnarfoz | that should make sense, then? ^^ |
| 21:18.56 | Gnarfoz | cast on focus if focus exists, else, if target is hostile, cast on target |
| 21:19.57 | Fisker- | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:20.10 | Gnarfoz | shut it, Danishman |
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| 21:20.53 | Fisker- | fu :( |
| 21:20.58 | Fisker- | why so evil? |
| 21:21.29 | robotusch | dkdk etc |
| 21:21.51 | Fisker- | suppe robotusch |
| 21:22.19 | robotusch | skal vi /dance i wg? |
| 21:22.33 | Fisker- | hvorfor? |
| 21:22.42 | robotusch | dunno, mangler wins til achievement |
| 21:23.05 | Fisker- | tf2'er |
| 21:23.12 | robotusch | pft |
| 21:24.26 | robotusch | 31984 :( |
| 21:25.09 | VonhintenHOME` | Hmm, no Grid Layout for Wintergrasp raids eh |
| 21:25.57 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: it can't know without a special case just for that ;p |
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| 21:39.40 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03Rinu * r64 LibFail-1.0.lua: fixed Fail_Hodir_BitingCold (nil value crap) |
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| 21:40.30 | Stanzilla | Axodious: thanks...still can't find the correct one tho ^^ |
| 21:42.41 | Stanzilla | Daemona: ask him if he can upload it after raid please :p |
| 21:43.00 | Daemona | already offline |
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| 21:43.05 | Stanzilla | :( |
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| 21:52.21 | Aeyan | Daemona: It's Futura. |
| 21:52.30 | Pneumatus | anyone know of a backup service that offers masses of disk space for a reasonable price? |
| 21:52.40 | Daemona | and i still dont care, it'S Stan that wants to know |
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| 21:53.20 | Aeyan | Ah, heh. |
| 21:53.40 | Aeyan | Stanzilla: It's Futura. |
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| 21:56.31 | Stanzilla | Aeyan: thanks :) |
| 21:57.02 | Gnarfoz | @project auditor |
| 21:57.03 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/auditor/. Auditor. Game: WoW. Alarisha (Manager/Author). Updated: 94 minutes ago |
| 21:57.12 | Gnarfoz | Alarisha: you're good at breaking it :D |
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| 22:05.04 | SunTsu | ~wowalert |
| 22:05.05 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 22:07.42 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r101 / (2 files in 1 directory): loot list now has tooltips! |
| 22:08.12 | Repo | 10quartz: 03s8095324 * r18 / (14 files in 14 directories): Title-zhTW & Notes-zhTW update |
| 22:10.23 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r102 newui.lua: just in case |
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| 22:20.29 | sylvanaar | i guess we're getting a patch? |
| 22:21.38 | Pneumatus | 3.1.3 today/tonight/tomorrow |
| 22:21.38 | durcyn | 3.1.3, all day long |
| 22:21.43 | Pneumatus | depending on where you are |
| 22:23.16 | Repo | 10ysstargets: 03yssaril 07master * c0089c4 YssTargets.lua: [+1 commit] optimized the tooltip code a little bit (less function calls) and added target reporting (simply click the bar with a modifier button pressed and it will output into raidchat) |
| 22:25.18 | Repo | 10jeweltips: 03s8095324 * r64 JewelTips.lua: JewelTips: |
| 22:25.21 | Repo | -Added three enchants |
| 22:29.02 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r1970 ARLDatamine.lua: |
| 22:29.05 | Repo | In addon:TooltipScanDatabase(): Added check for nil recipe link, and print out its ID and name. |
| 22:29.08 | Repo | In addon:ScanTooltip(): Renamed invalid variable names 1H and 2H to OneHanded and TwoHanded. |
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| 22:30.28 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r103 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix for loot list not emptying on purge |
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| 22:49.36 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r138 / (4 files in 1 directory): fix a few bugs with SyncParty and quests details |
| 22:49.39 | Repo | bugfix in dailyTooltip |
| 22:49.42 | Repo | add X-WoWI-ID: 12619 to tocFile for WowInterface updated |
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| 22:56.52 | Bruners | hates US kebyoard layout |
| 22:57.11 | Hirsute-Home | has never used any other keyboard layout. |
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| 23:06.05 | durcyn | inserts a Dvorak keyboard into Bruners |
| 23:16.10 | Cyrez | How do X-Embeds work? O_O |
| 23:18.02 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r943 Data/Warrior.lua: |
| 23:18.05 | Repo | - Incorrectly placed bracket caused Improved Cleave and DW Spec for warriors to be ignored >_< |
| 23:20.00 | NeoTron | Cyrez: it doesn't. Legacy from old wowace. |
| 23:22.19 | Cyrez | Thanks. |
| 23:22.21 | Cyrez | :( |
| 23:23.17 | durcyn | it was only ever used by WAU to pull in dependecies, we're smarter than that now |
| 23:23.42 | durcyn | come to think of it, ACP might've latched on to it sometime later |
| 23:24.16 | Cyrez | Blizz should add an official one. Would make life so much easier. |
| 23:24.35 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r944 Data/Warrior.lua: - And forgot to remove a piece of testing code. |
| 23:25.01 | durcyn | it's kind of what OptionalDeps is meant for |
| 23:25.14 | durcyn | it's just not the -only- thing OptionalDeps is used for, which muddies the waters as far as the ACP thing goes |
| 23:28.08 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1971 AckisRecipeList.toc: packager = sux0rz |
| 23:28.34 | Cyrez | I guess I'll need to figure out another method for my warranty-voiding optimizations. :( |
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| 23:45.36 | Toadkiller | Saved Varibales question: global settings can at most be account wide right? |
| 23:50.21 | Cyrez | Toadkiller: Having shared a comp, I can confirm that. |
| 23:50.58 | Toadkiller | Tx. Looking at comp files I see no way for it to be otherwise. Just trying to make sure I am not missing something. |
| 23:51.47 | Cyrez | ^^ |
| 23:52.21 | Cyrez | It is kinda annoying at times for things like databases. |
| 23:52.51 | Toadkiller | Or 5 boxing fools... |
| 23:52.56 | Cyrez | If only it did it by realm THEN account. |
| 23:53.41 | Toadkiller | The current setup is better for people using public comps tho... |
| 23:54.38 | Toadkiller | I just ran into a total characters allowed per account limit! |
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| 23:54.50 | Cyrez | Oh teh noes! |
| 23:55.03 | Cyrez | Isn't that, like, 100? |
| 23:55.07 | Toadkiller | lol, when my realm is down I go test on random realms |
| 23:55.20 | Zhinjio | Toadkiller: heya |
| 23:55.28 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r297 / (2 files in 1 directory): blacklist update |
| 23:55.32 | Toadkiller | I have made many Toadkillers and Azethoths at this point |
| 23:55.43 | Toadkiller | hey zhin |
| 23:56.14 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1972 AckisRecipeList.toc: Packager == failure. |
| 23:59.19 | Toadkiller | Ackis: will arl ever be finished? |
| 23:59.24 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v3.4.1.7 * r298 : Tagging as v3.4.1.7 |
| 23:59.29 | Ackis | Toadkiller yes |
