IRC log for #wowace on 20090522

00:03.56ckknightAckisWork: sets new to the value of new if new ~= "PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED", otherwise queued, unless new is false or nil, at which point it also becomes queued
00:04.35ckknightI has a front page, woo! http://beta.wowace.com/
00:04.38ckknightnote: not finished yet.
00:07.01Repo10tehtip: 03copystring * r10 TehTip.lua: - moar fixes
00:07.29PrimerAckis: So, /ihml, new macro, m_handykey1?
00:07.38Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-11-g3f45acd IHML.lua: [+1 commit] Add some debug code.
00:07.42Primerthen new macro, m_handykey2?
00:07.58Primerdoesn't switch when I switch specs, despite having toggled that on again
00:08.34AckisWorkit should, I added some debug code to see wtf is going on
00:09.27AckisWorkckknight: when's the admin page going to be done? (aka what level of priority?)
00:09.53ckknightnot sure, but I'm running out of other things ;-)
00:09.53PrimerSo should I have no macro named default now?
00:09.59ckknightI'll work on it tomorrow, hopefully, AckisWork
00:10.10RepoNew project: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/gnoom/. GNome Out Of Mana. Graveeater (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
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00:10.15RepoNew project: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/fubar_gearfu/. FuBar_GearFu. Illiai (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
00:10.28AckisWorkPrimer: you may still have it from legacy
00:10.35AckisWorkckknight: nice
00:10.55ckknightAckisWork: tomorrow, I launch the three contests
00:10.58Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn * r201 / (4 files in 1 directory): school data cleanup, refine item link matching
00:10.58ckknightwhich may take a while and all
00:11.01Primerit seems I overwrote it when I "created" m_handykey1
00:11.07Primerlet me recreate them again
00:11.40AckisWorkI has youtube on ARL now! http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/ kekekek
00:12.03AckisWorkckknight: suggestion for down the road, project level contests just like you did with polls
00:12.11AckisWorkaka "who wants a hot date with ackis contest!"
00:12.14ckknightAckisWork: lol, I have it in mind.
00:12.22Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r1874 Docs/Main.txt: youtube link fix
00:12.35Primerheh, now it's not switching back on pvp
00:12.45AckisWorkI did this stupid quiz on facebook and it said I should move to alabama
00:12.56ckknightAckisWork: <<youtube>>
00:12.58ckknightyou forgot a <
00:13.17AckisWorkpompy: ^
00:13.21ckknightor what the hell
00:13.23ckknightis it bbcode?
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00:13.31ckknightchecks
00:13.32ckknightno
00:13.34AckisWorkPrimer: aight I'll have to look at it with a client in front of me
00:13.49ckknightI changed it.
00:14.01Primerfucking dry coder!
00:14.03Primer:)
00:14.07PrimerAckis: <3
00:14.15AckisWorklol
00:14.21AckisWorkI told you I was dry-coding!
00:14.48AckisWorkbtw the conversion from wowace creole to curse is terrible
00:15.01AckisWorkmy wowace page looks sexy, my curse page looks shitty
00:15.43Repo10tehtip: 03copystring * r11 !TehTip.toc: - toc fix, how did that # get there?
00:15.43AckisWorkhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/arl.aspx <-- images aren't resized the <code> stuff looks like shit there compared to wowace
00:16.25ckknightwell
00:16.28ckknighthere's the plan:
00:16.42ckknightonce beta.wowace.com becomes www.wowace.com, I'm gonna make it so the CSS matches (for the most part)
00:16.50NeoTrondoes curse surface additional pages?
00:16.52ckknightby changing Curse's CSS to that one, at that point
00:16.55AckisWorkah is it because of the transition right now?
00:16.58ckknightNeoTron: ?
00:17.04Arrowmasterthey are actually going to let you touch curse.com?
00:17.06NeoTronon wowace you can have multiple pages right?
00:17.09ckknightAckisWork: no, it's just that curse's CSS hasn't been tweaked
00:17.11NeoTronis that shown on curse?
00:17.14AckisWork*nod*
00:17.16ckknightNeoTron: curse just syncs the main page.
00:17.16NeoTronor just the main page?
00:17.19NeoTronok
00:18.03Repo10tehtip: 03copystring * r12 !TehTip.toc: - toc fix... # was missing and not unnecessary
00:18.28AckisWorkbtw a formal linkage with wowwiki would be sexy
00:18.38ckknightnot sure how I'd accomplish that
00:18.43ckknighthow do you mean?
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00:19.06Arrowmasterprobably for links
00:19.10AckisWorkAckis Recipe List is an addon which will scan your trade skill recipes and print out a list of which recipes you are currently missing.  It will work for all tradeskills including [[http://www.wowwiki.com/Runeforge | Runeforging]].
00:19.10ckknightlinkage?
00:19.18AckisWorkthat's what I do now
00:19.20ckknightoh
00:19.30ckknightyou want [[wowwiki:Runeforging]]
00:19.31ckknightor something
00:19.34ckknightI could do that
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00:19.42AckisWorkyah I think that'd be neat, make it more wikish
00:19.51ckknightthat's actually the proper wikicreole way
00:20.08ckknightAckisWork: file a ticket on curseforge under Parsers
00:20.11Axodioushrm
00:20.29AxodiousXinhuan, CC is saying wowequip has been modified, however i didn't touch it
00:20.33max000000sorry to interrupt, do you guys know if there is a new TOC number for 3.1.2?
00:20.42ckknightmax000000: still 30100
00:20.48Repo10dr-damage: 03Detseuqer 07drdamage-refactor * r873 :
00:20.48max000000k thx
00:20.49Xinhuanjust reinstall it
00:20.51RepoBranching from the trunk to do a clean up pass for documentation, variable name refactoring, and code review.
00:20.52XinhuanRight click, reinstall
00:20.53Axodiousk
00:20.55Arrowmasterdoes wikicreole do the weird linking like mediawiki, like [link]s makes 'links' the full link?
00:21.08ckknightArrowmaster: err, what do you mean?
00:21.23ckknighthttp://kb.wowace.com/markup-types/wiki-creole/
00:21.26ckknightthat's the guide
00:21.30AckisWorkhmm http://beta.wowace.com/projects/arl/ <-- the first image isn't scaled down whereas the rest are
00:22.15ckknightAckisWork: cause you link against the image directly
00:22.19ckknightinstead of as a project image
00:22.23ckknightyou give the URL
00:22.28Arrowmasterckknight: with mediawiki you can do something like [link]s and instead of links you get links
00:22.37AckisWorkahh ok
00:22.41ckknightArrowmaster: [[link]]s
00:22.54Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1875 Docs/Main.txt: Few minor tweakages
00:22.56Axodiousckk, i notice you're talking about markup types
00:23.04ckknightAxodious: it's possible
00:23.09Axodiousi can't get code blocks to appear no matter what i do on the beta site
00:23.19Axodiousi've tried wikicreole and bbcode so far
00:23.23ckknight<<code>>zomg<</code>>
00:23.27ckknightlemme test.
00:23.40Axodioushttp://beta.wowace.com/projects/castyeller2/tickets/6-copying-profiles-breaks-cy2/
00:23.44Axodious^ example
00:24.09nicoli_si always thought the whole idea of markup inside markup is silly, just html why not?
00:24.10ckknightI call that a bug.
00:24.11copystringckknight, do you have a minute? The package doesn't seem to create any packages for my repo...
00:24.31ckknightcopystring: link to url on the site?
00:24.39copystringhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/tehtip/
00:24.50ckknightAxodious: oh, I know your problem
00:24.58ckknightAxodious: <<code>>\nlots of stuff\n<</code>>
00:25.21ckknightAxodious: since you have a paragraph-style break
00:25.33Arrowmastercopystring: you broke it
00:25.46ArrowmasterERROR 1 with ('/usr/bin/svn', '--non-interactive', 'update', '--ignore-externals', '/repos/packaging/svn-local-checkout/wow/tehtip/mainline'): }}} {{{svn: Working copy '/repos/packaging/svn-local-checkout/wow/tehtip/mainline' locked svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
00:25.50copystringhow? :o
00:25.54Axodiousdo i need to do \n for every paragraph or just at the beginning / end?
00:25.59ckknighteep, copystring
00:26.01ckknighthttp://beta.wowace.com/projects/tehtip/repositories/mainline/packager/
00:26.17ckknightAxodious: <<code>> and <</code>> on their own lines.
00:26.23Arrowmasterckknight: is that new?
00:26.33copystringyea, i can see these errors. how did i broke it or how can i fix it?
00:26.35ckknightArrowmaster: is what?
00:26.37ckknightI'll fix, copystring
00:26.39Axodiousah i see
00:26.40Axodiousty
00:26.46Arrowmasterper repo packager history
00:27.12Axodious2nd problem (or not) in chrome the all the boxes have the text running off screen
00:27.15copystringok thank you, sorry for the issues... no idea how i broke it >.<
00:27.23Axodiousif i highlight drag over the text the screen shifts
00:27.36Axodiousknow what i mean?
00:27.40ckknightArrowmaster: for about 2-3 months
00:28.00Arrowmaster@packager
00:28.06Arrowmaster@packager tehtip
00:28.22Arrowmasterckknight: chop chop need new bot feature
00:28.24ckknightthat could be a good macro
00:28.29ckknightArrowmaster: sure, put it on repobot's tickets
00:28.40Arrowmasterbah i was going to watch a movie
00:28.53ckknightcopystring: crisis averted.
00:28.57nicoli_syou addon people and your tickets
00:29.43copystringthanks ckknight, sorry again
00:29.57ckknightcopystring: not your fault.
00:30.01ckknightdon't apologize
00:30.05Axodiousoh, and post a comment has no indents
00:30.07Axodious;p
00:30.18ckknightAxodious: ?
00:30.20copystringArrowmaster meant i broke it lol
00:30.20Axodiouser margin
00:30.26ckknightoh, that's a bug.
00:30.30ckknightwhoopsie doodle
00:30.53Axodiousone of these days someones going to shoot me cause i report too many bugs :(
00:30.55Axodious;x
00:31.06StanzillaAxodious: doesn't work
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00:31.10StanzillaI tried that with ckk
00:31.14Axodiouslol
00:31.20Stanzillahe just tells you to stfu or file tickets :P
00:31.36Axodiousthat's what i did to Adirelle earlier ;x
00:31.53Axodiousstarted with one thing in irc, ended up with ~6 tickets
00:31.58Adirelleckknight: got the same issue as axodius with <<code>> blocks: the lines are clipped on right edge
00:32.06ckknightlink
00:32.18Adirellepage: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/castyeller2/tickets/6-copying-profiles-breaks-cy2/
00:32.22Axodiousyeah, if you click drag your mouse over them
00:32.25Adirellescreenshot in a sec
00:32.25Axodiousand drag to the right
00:32.25Arrowmasterckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/repobot/tickets/11-create-new-packager-project-command/
00:32.28Adirelle(using FF3)
00:32.29max000000what does it mean when my svn client is telling me my Libs folder on my local copy is obstructed?
00:32.30Axodiousyou can move it
00:32.51AdirelleAxodious: does not work here
00:33.05Stanzillalet's see what durcyn says when I link him errors he does not even want to see! http://pastey.net/114686 :P
00:33.13Adirelleerm... afk a sec, daughter requires attention
00:33.27Axodiousfor me, it's basicly as if there's suppose to be a horizontal scroll bar
00:33.28Arrowmasterwell ive been playing the new riddick game so now im in a mood to go watch pitch black
00:34.41Axodiousckk, seems to only be with wiki stuffs
00:34.47AxodiousIE plaintext wraps fine
00:34.52Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r874 / (5 files in 2 directories):
00:34.54Repo- Fixed mitigation incorrectly applying to some bleed effects
00:34.57Repo- CoH and Death & Decay can crit
00:35.01Repo- TOC bump to 1.6.4
00:37.46Adirelleckknight: http://images3.hiboox.com/images/2109/3d375d11a76706fccc975803a09afc63.png
00:38.03ckknightI see, Adirelle
00:38.04ckknightokay.
00:38.44Axodioussee the drag bar at the bottom of that SS?
00:38.46Axodiousits not there for me
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00:39.36ckknightAxodious: fixing.
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00:39.56Repo10castyeller2: 03sylvanaar * r40 Defaults.lua: fix double end
00:40.08ckknightAxodious: also, you should set your code's language to luatb
00:40.11ckknight<<code luatb>>
00:40.26Axodioussidenote, is that eof error im getting any harmful to the addon Adirelle?
00:40.32Adirellesylvanaar: I saw you !
00:40.38sylvanaarlol
00:40.51sylvanaari saved you the trouble
00:40.51AdirelleAxodious: I think it is quite bad
00:41.02Adirelleanyway, it does not happen here
00:41.12AdirelleI think I screwed something with the localization
00:41.18sylvanaari just fixed it
00:41.41Adirellety
00:42.13sylvanaaryou only can see it if you use the copy from the packager
00:43.10Adirelleindeed
00:43.21Axodiousdid you remove the defaults you added to cy2?
00:43.25Adirellecopy+paste is the tool of the evil !
00:43.32Axodiousoh wait, that would be the cause of the error ~_~
00:43.56Adirelleactually the error in Defaults.lua prevents the defaults to be loaded ^-
00:44.08Axodiousexactly, which is why i don't see them :D
00:44.37durcynStanzilla: i told you i haven't tested it lately =P
00:44.39Adirellenow I'm not sure what I tried for "funny announces" will be successful...
00:45.01Axodiousdon't quote me on this but it looks like you accidently put 2 ends
00:45.07Axodiouswhen there should be one ;o
00:45.43Adirelleyes, I copy+pasted inside a comment that gets uncommented in the packaged files
00:46.09Adirellethe lua check on commit is just fine ^^
00:46.27Axodiousoh dur
00:46.29Axodiousi didn't even see that
00:46.30Axodious>_<
00:46.35Axodiouslol
00:46.52Axodiousworst part about it is i have repo showing up as bright white on black
00:46.54Axodious~_~
00:46.55purlSTOP DOING THAT!
00:47.05Adirelle^^
00:47.11AxodiousNEVER
00:47.15Adirellethat is fun
00:47.19Adirelle~_~
00:47.20purlSTOP DOING THAT!
00:47.20NightHawkTheSane~~~
00:47.26NightHawkTheSane~~~~~
00:47.27purlgrrrr
00:47.36Adirelle~~~~~~
00:47.36purlACTION takes out a revolver and shoots adirelle in the head three times.
00:47.46Adirellefeigns death.
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00:50.02Axodiouscool summoning stone effect
00:50.02Axodious:D
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00:51.55AdirelleAxodious: tell me if you ever have the time to looks for the spell name when clicking on a warlock pervert stone
00:52.31Axodiousyeah i was trying to figure that out earlier
00:52.36Axodiousill tell you in a few, heading to raid now
00:54.06Adirelleheading to my bed soon, so post it on the forum or create (another) ticket
00:54.36Adirelleis away: Away
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01:05.13copystringis there any way to detect the stance/shapeshift of another player?
01:05.42NightHawkTheSanecatch the spellcast event?
01:05.57copystringhm
01:06.25copystringthat's what i thought buy what if the player is not in range?
01:07.08copystringi can't wait for that player to cast his stance just to detect it...
01:09.56waallenIt'd be super-nice if you could associate your primary or secondary spec to ClosetGnome sets
01:10.53copystringClosetGnome_SwapSpecs did that, it's just broken since 3.1.2
01:11.17NightHawkTheSaneyou might check for active buffs, but i dont think that'd apply to warriors.
01:11.35waallencopystring: I didn't know that, thanks
01:11.47copystringNightHawkTheSane, You mean UnitAura()?
01:11.53durcyncopystring: it's EquipmentManager_SwapSpecs now
01:12.00NightHawkTheSanewhatever the buff methods are these days, yeah
01:12.08copystringdurcyn, i just noticed :p
01:12.35NightHawkTheSaneshapeshift forms & dk presences put a buff icon up, i assume that means you can use UnitAura to check for that
01:12.38NivFreakwow
01:12.43NivFreakterminator salvation was.... so bad
01:13.00copystringhmm doesn't work for warriors. i gonna check if it works for druids
01:13.16NightHawkTheSanei said i didn't think it'd work for warriors ;)
01:13.35copystring:)
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01:15.41ckknightAxodious: fixed
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01:24.07Xinhuanoh my.. how did i miss this one HAHA
01:24.08Xinhuanhttp://xkcd.com/583/
01:25.12AdirelleXinhuan: lol
01:25.40Xinhuanthat's just so pro
01:26.48Groktarcurls up in Xinhuan's lap and goes to sleep
01:26.53nicoli_slol
01:32.51Adirellethis one is quite funny too : http://xkcd.com/574/
01:32.53Adirelleanyway
01:32.54Adirellenight
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01:33.56WobinAdirelle|sleep: I like the Hannalore reference =)
01:34.24maqris there any way to control what wow displays on the g15 lcd?
01:34.34maqror rather, to have an addon display information there
01:37.51Groktartickles Cairenn
01:38.00Cairenngiggles
01:38.20Groktarwhispers a series of lewd suggestions into Cairenn's ear
01:38.24Groktarwinks slyly
01:38.26Cairenno.O
01:39.07Repo10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r224 / (2 files in 2 directories): - added school 33 shadowstrike(physical + shadow)
01:39.28Groktaris certainly endaring himself to #wowace
01:39.32Groktar*endearing
01:41.21Repo10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r225 YurrCombatLog.toc: - toc 0.6.3
01:41.43Repo10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring 040.6.3 * r226 : Tagging as 0.6.3
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01:51.43Repo10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r129 Locale (2 files in 1 directory): Added new French translations.
01:51.46RepoSlight tweaks to German translations.
01:51.51maqrto update something like a timer on every frame, OnUpdate is the proper way?
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02:02.59Repo10bayis-extended-questlog: 03Namdrof * r203 : editing svn:externals
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02:05.58Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r35 / (3 files in 2 directories):
02:06.01Repolet's use functions that actually exist when registering callbacks
02:12.09Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r175 SKG_GUI_List.lua: SKG :
02:12.12Repo- make the submenus play nicer together
02:15.20Repo10little-brother: 03Antiarc 07master * 47bfcd0 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Add the ability to only show break messages when in certain instance types. Who cares about CC breaks in non-heroic 5-mans, anyhow?
02:17.24Cryectlittle brother a reduced form of big brother without buff checking?
02:21.45AntiarcYes
02:21.59AntiarcI was going to add buff checking but RaidBuffSTatus already does that
02:22.06AntiarcBigBrother was causing insane FPS drops on Hodir
02:22.14AntiarcI was going from 30+ FPS to <1 FPS
02:22.25AntiarcTons of garbage churn. I ran BigBrother:UnregisterAll() and it instantly cleared up.
02:26.26maqri'd like to use AceTimer-3.0 to create a timer bar, and while it's easy enough to setup the timer itself, i'm not sure where to look on how to make the bar (ideally something dbm-style)... any suggestions?
02:26.58Xinhuanyou can use a bar library
02:27.05Xinhuanor you can create your own bar
02:27.21Xinhuanwhich would just be a texture that you resize every OnUpdate
02:27.31maqrwhat would you recommend for a bar library?
02:27.58Xinhuani wouldn't recommend any bar library unless you intend to spawn LOTS of bars at the same time
02:28.06maqrXinhuan: also, is there an ace3 way of registering OnUpdate? or do I still use SetScript?
02:28.21Xinhuancreate your own frame for that
02:28.35Xinhuana frame only takes all of 100 bytes of memory or something
02:29.32Groktarhttp://www.theforum.com/photos/data/500/alice_sweet_alice_1.jpg
02:33.42Zhinjioquestion for those who use it. Is it possible to move/expand the document tab bar? Like, make it two rows, or move it to the right hand edge instead perhaps?
02:33.51Zhinjioer, in notepad++
02:33.53Zhinjiosorry
02:33.54Zhinjioheh
02:35.08Brunershttp://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/commun/screenshots/scrsh_withWM.png
02:35.10Brunerslike that?
02:35.19AntiarcYou can make it multiple rows, yes
02:35.28Zhinjiohmm
02:35.44Antiarcoptions -> global ->tab bar -> multi line
02:35.49Zhinjiothanks
02:36.01ZhinjioPERFECT
02:36.10Zhinjiohow did I miss that. sheesh
02:36.21Zhinjiobah, vertical looks like ass.
02:36.24AntiarcYeah
02:36.25Zhinjiomultiline works great
02:36.28AntiarcI'm at 6 rows right now though :V
02:37.00Zhinjiohehehee
02:37.22ZhinjioI think I probably won't go beyond about 3 for most usage, but I also have the window very wide on my main (1920x1200) screen
02:37.40Zhinjioespecially with "Reduce" on
02:37.42Brunerssplit screen is the sex
02:37.47Zhinjiothanks Antiarc!
02:37.50Zhinjiosplit screen?
02:38.37Brunershttp://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/notepad.jpg
02:38.39Brunerslike that
02:39.01maqris there an "AceGUI"? i see mention of it a few places, but the only project i see on wowace is "AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets"
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02:40.18AntiarcYeah, there's an AceGUI
02:41.13Antiarchttp://i43.tinypic.com/2po2lc8.png <-- mah notepad++
02:42.29Zhinjioyeah, me needs the WM
02:42.33Zhinjiothats teh sexah
02:43.08AntiarcWM?
02:43.15Brunerswindow manager
02:43.31AntiarcIt's a plugin
02:43.42Brunershttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=189927&package_id=254115
02:43.43maqrAntiarc: is acegui-3.0 just not documented? i can't find much about it
02:43.53Brunershttp://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/pages/api/ace-gui-3-0/
02:44.09Antiarcmaqr: There isn't a lot of doc on it. It's the underpinnings of AceConfigGUI. It's not too hard to use, but it's a bit esoteric.
02:44.23maqroh, awesome, somehow google didn't turn that up for me
02:44.52Zhinjioyeah, I'm getting it now
02:45.34durcynl
02:47.58Zhinjioperfect.
02:49.02Zhinjioso something I asked earlier.
02:49.20ZhinjioI believe there is a toggle you can set on an EditBox object that tells it to lose focus when you hit "Esc"
02:49.23Zhinjioanyone know what that is
02:49.47BrunersSetScript("OnEscapePressed", function(self) self:ClearFocus() end)
02:50.50AntiarcVery important cause otherwise you can't unfocus it and it sucks
02:50.54AntiarcYou have to alt+f4
02:52.00Brunersyou can give something else focus that responds to esc
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02:52.31Repo- Updated documentation for SearchCollector.lua.
02:56.12Zhinjiothanks.
02:57.29Zhinjioand then once focus leaves the editbox, the next escape should close the frame (assuming I added it to special frames)
02:57.34Zhinjioso thats perfect... testing in a minute
02:58.22Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r176 / (2 files in 1 directory): SKG :
02:58.25Repo- fixing editbox focus clear
02:58.28Repo- moved submenu, should be good now
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03:03.43Zhinjiohmm, that clearfocus thing didn't work.
03:03.50Zhinjiolemme check that I put it on the right editbox
03:04.19ZhinjioSKG_LFIPF_EditBox:SetScript("OnEscapePressed", function(self) self:ClearFocus() end)
03:04.41Zhinjiothat look ok?
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03:06.41Repo- update version number
03:07.27XinhuanZhinjio
03:07.32Xinhuandon't do this
03:07.32XinhuanSetScript("OnEscapePressed", function(self) self:ClearFocus() end)
03:07.36Xinhuando this instead
03:07.43ZhinjioXinhuan: ...
03:07.47XinhuanSetScript("OnEscapePressed", self.ClearFocus)
03:07.52Zhinjiok
03:08.01Xinhuanunless you want to do more stuff than just clearing the focus
03:08.12Xinhuanit already passes "self" to the first arg as expected
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03:08.41XinhuanSetScript("OnEnterPressed", self.ClearFocus) <-- another example
03:09.09Xinhuanreplace "self" with the object btw
03:09.55ZhinjioSKG_LFIPF_EditBox:SetScript( "OnEnterPressed", self.ClearFocus )
03:10.36Zhinjionm
03:13.15Cryect<Antiarc> BigBrother was causing insane FPS drops on Hodir
03:13.25CryectDamn, I need to find out what someone messed up then in it
03:13.34AntiarcIt was a ton of garbage generation
03:13.37AntiarcI suspect it's buff scanning
03:13.37Cryectk
03:13.43AntiarcBecause Hodir stacks Biting Cold on everyone
03:13.56AntiarcI noticed the CLEU handler is inefficient, too
03:13.59CryectHmm it shouldn't be but no idea how much its chnaged since I wrote it
03:14.13Cryectbut if its bad on cpu will fix it then
03:14.16AntiarcIt's running at least an O(n) lookup on spell names for every applicable event
03:14.21Cryecthaha thats fucked up
03:14.58AntiarcIf nothing else, you could just disable buff scanning in combat
03:16.39Xinhuanlfm mafia wars (facebook)
03:16.44CryectYeah, can't quite do that but will check it out
03:17.02CryectSee how people messed it after 2.0 etc
03:17.14CryectBusy at the moment on Freya+3 learning
03:17.20Xinhuanyou should pass your peojects on to good authors ;p
03:17.28Cryecthaha
03:17.48CryectShould I accept resumes for people who want to work on projects I did :-p
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03:18.13Xinhuanwell if its churning on Hodir
03:18.16Xinhuanit will churn on Yogg ;p
03:18.43CryectI don't use it personally but know plenty who do
03:19.19CryectFeel like quiting raiding so I can go back to actually working on addons
03:20.01CryectWith the map coords for people added inside of instances could go back and do Replay as I wanted to without requiring GPSLib on everyone
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03:22.24Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r177 SKG_GUI_List.lua: SKG :
03:22.27Repo- editbox attempt #2
03:22.34Repo10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r131 / (2 files in 1 directory): Bump version number to 1.2.1.
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03:24.41RepoChanges:
03:24.44Repo- Fixed German bug.
03:24.47Repo- Added Russian translation.
03:25.43maqrif i've set a frame as movable, what else do i need to do to get it to drag around the screen?
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03:26.32kagaroanyone know of a way to track people hitting clouds in the yogg fight?
03:26.56Cryectcan't
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03:29.22kagarothat bites
03:29.39kagaroi swear my mt isnt happy unless he hits 2 clouds every time he pulls an add to sara
03:29.51Cryecthaha
03:30.02kagaroand he is the gm .. /wrsits
03:30.20Cryecthave a tank stand in the middle and taunt them in then
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03:31.59Ackisaye i got that myself
03:32.00Primerof IHML.lua
03:32.05Ackisjust raiding so I can't do anything
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03:48.58Repo- Cleaned up druid module somewhat
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03:58.11maqrXinhuan: i managed to get a bar on the screen and can do the drag around thing, but it seems like such a common task there should be a thin library to do it... you really write all of yours by hand?
04:00.52Wobiner, well it's basic enough there doesn't -need- to have a library
04:01.32Xinhuanthe code to do so is so basic its less than 10 lines
04:01.42maqroh, i'm doing something very wrong then
04:01.46Xinhuanso there isn't usually a need to have a library to do something like that
04:02.09maqrdo you happen to have an example you could paste somewhere?
04:02.19Xinhuanthere's also at least 3 different ways to drag a frame
04:02.56Xinhuanone is by using XML's special drag thingy, most people don't use this now
04:03.08Xinhuananother is by using OnMouseDown/OnMouseUp
04:03.17Xinhuan3rd is by using OnDragStart and OnDragStop
04:03.37maqryeah, OnDragStart and OnDragStop are what i've been using
04:03.55XinhuanOnDragStart/Stop is pretty simple
04:04.16Xinhuanyour frame just needs to be :SetMovable(true) and :SetMouseEnabled(true)
04:04.25Xinhuanand dragging it would trigger OnDragStart
04:04.30Xinhuanand releasing would trigger OnDragStop
04:04.41Xinhuanthose are just events that respond to the actual dragging
04:04.47Xinhuanthere's no code involved to make it move
04:04.57maqrthen OnDragStart would call this:StartMoving, right?
04:05.06Xinhuanthe UI calls it
04:05.17XinhuanOnDragStart is an event that occurs in response to your dragging
04:05.23Xinhuanyou don't call anything to move anything
04:05.28Xinhuanthe UI does it
04:05.30Xinhuanby itself
04:05.37maqroh, that makes sense
04:05.56XinhuanOnMouseUp/Down requires actual code on your part to start moving a frame on Down, and to stop moving on Up
04:06.11Xinhuanit however allows finer control
04:06.18maqri must be doing something else wrong then, here's my paste: http://pastebin.ca/1430592
04:06.43maqrfrom reading wowwiki's API documentation, this is what i came up with, but it still doesn't drag
04:07.22Xinhuanactually i might be wrong
04:07.28Xinhuango set a OnDragStart handler
04:07.51Xinhuanfoo:SetScript("OnDragStart", function(self) self:StartMoving() end)
04:08.03Xinhuanfoo:SetScript("OnDragStop", function(self) self:StopMovingOrSizing() end)
04:08.36Xinhuanfoo:SetScript("OnHide", function(self) self:StopMovingOrSizing() end) <-- must do this, or your frame will be stuck to your mouse if it self-hides
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04:09.57Xinhuanif i'm wrong (that ondragstart/stop still requires you to manually call startmoving()) then the only method that doesn't require it will be the XML method
04:10.07maqrXinhuan: that sounds sensible enough, but http://pastebin.ca/1430594 still doesn't seem to drag :/
04:11.29maqri am using the wowlua editor, but i don't think that should make any difference
04:11.38airtonixXinhuan, is this ok though? : self:SetScript("OnHide", self:StopMovingOrSizing)
04:11.50Xinhuanshould be a .
04:11.52airtonixand : self:SetScript("OnMouseUp",  self.StopMovingOrSizing)
04:11.54Xinhuannot a :
04:12.01airtonixoh yeah
04:12.08Xinhuanbut yes, that's fine
04:12.19airtonixsweet both things accounted for
04:12.34airtonixsometimes a frame can hide before the mouse goes up?
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04:12.43maqrairtonix: i've actually seen the bug he's taling about there
04:12.44Xinhuanif you made a small frameX draggable
04:12.46maqrgladius has it
04:12.53Xinhuanand in the frameX's script, you StartMoving frameY
04:12.55Zhinjiohitting escape hilights the text in the editbox.
04:13.02Xinhuanand X is parented to Y
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04:13.10Zhinjiothis sucks
04:13.21Xinhuanso moving Y, in effect moves parent X, and since Y is parented to X, Y moves also
04:13.30Xinhuanif Y hides itself, X will continue to moev and be stuck to your mouse
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04:13.43Xinhuansince Y no longer responds to OnDragStop or OnMouseUp
04:13.46airtonixsounds good
04:13.48Xinhuanwhen hidden
04:14.08Xinhuanyou use this method generally to have a much smaller dragging handle compared to the actual frame ou want to draf
04:14.10Xinhuandrag
04:14.22maqrXinhuan: that happens on gladius when you try to move the frame and the arena starts at the same time (or combat starts or something, i forget when it happens).  super irritating
04:14.30Xinhuanif you remember Omen2, it could get stuck to your mouse
04:14.38airtonixyes i do remember that
04:14.51Xinhuanits because when you dragged a threatbar, it was actually moving the main omen window
04:14.59Xinhuanbut the threatbar can hide itself when combat ends
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04:15.08Xinhuanor when threat changes
04:15.52maqrXinhuan: any idea what might be wrong with my code? i've read the API over a few times, and all signs point to this thing dragging... but it doesn't
04:16.58Xinhuani don't know what's wrong ;p
04:17.10Xinhuantry putting a print("abc") in the OnDragStart handler
04:17.13Xinhuanto see if its called
04:17.31ZhinjioXinhuan: it was the SetAutoFocus(false)
04:17.34ZhinjioI wasn't doing that
04:17.47kadrahil25 man thorim hard DOWN
04:17.50Xinhuanif it isn't, then we at least know the frame isn't receiving the drag event
04:17.56Xinhuanheh Zhinjio
04:18.09maqrfoo:SetScript("OnDragStart", function(self) print("test"); self:StartMoving() end) -- like this?
04:18.13quiescensfoo:bar
04:18.13Xinhuanyes
04:18.19Xinhuanautofocus is annoying, the editbox will try to regrab focus whenever possible
04:18.29quiescensindeed
04:18.56Xinhuanthat is, autofucus will cause the editbox to grab focus whenever something else loses focus
04:19.08maqrXinhuan: yeah, nothing comes out there... odd
04:19.13Zhinjioincluding, apparently, itself.
04:19.15Zhinjiofucking thing
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04:20.23Xinhuanmaqr
04:20.33Xinhuani believe you MIGHT need to RegisterForClicks() as well
04:20.40Xinhuan(unsure on this)
04:21.05maqrhrm, the wowwiki api doc shows that on Button, but not Frame
04:21.19Xinhuannot sure
04:21.24Xinhuanyou should just change to
04:21.28XinhuanOnMouseUp/Down ;p
04:21.35Xinhuaninstead of OnDragStop/Stop
04:21.44maqri guess i can do that
04:22.32maqri wish blizz had official documentation
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04:31.09airtonixwtb inGameCalendar:import(csvData)
04:31.21airtonix<PROTECTED>
04:31.37AntiarcCalendar events require hardware keypresses
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04:31.50RepoRe-instated the frameHeap. The lineHeap and columnHeap are no more.
04:31.53RepoAdded tipPrototype:AddSeparator() - allows the addition of a separator line with optional height, r, g, b, and alpha arguments.
04:31.56RepoReworked tipPrototype:SetAutoHideDelay() to use the frameHeap, and release self.autoHideTimerFrame when done.
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04:34.28Repo- focus fix
04:36.23maqrok, i don't understand why neither my clicks or drags work, can someone look at this code? http://pastebin.ca/1430615
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04:40.27Xinhuanok i looked at it again
04:40.28Xinhuan:SetFrameStrata("BACKGROUND")
04:40.34Xinhuanthat would be the cause
04:40.41Xinhuana frame on BACKGROUND doesn't receive clicks ;p
04:40.47maqr*oh*
04:40.53maqri thought it was the background of my frame
04:41.15Xinhuantry commenting it out
04:41.22Xinhuani.e default to MEDIUM
04:41.41maqrno change :(
04:41.45Xinhuan:(
04:42.01Xinhuanyou know whay
04:42.02Xinhuanwhat
04:42.06maqrthis is way harder than i thought it would be, it's like there's no good documentation or debugging tools
04:42.08Xinhuani believe your frame isn't even displayed
04:42.16Xinhuanyour texture is setpointed. your frame isn't
04:42.26maqrbut... foo:Show()
04:42.34Xinhuandoesn't cause the frame to show
04:42.48Xinhuana frame can only be drawn on screen if it has a width/height and an anchor
04:43.02Xinhuanit just sets the frame's status to "shown" without it actually being drawn on screen
04:43.08maqrwidth and height it has, anchor is UIParent, i think?
04:43.08Xinhuanso that its children will also be shown
04:43.16Xinhuanno
04:43.20Xinhuanyour frame has a parent
04:43.21Xinhuanbut no anchor
04:43.34Xinhuana frame's anchor does not have to be its parent
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04:43.57Xinhuanan object's anchor is just telling the object where to position itself - it has nothing to do with its parent
04:44.09Xinhuanthat is they can be 2 differnet objects
04:44.30Xinhuanan object's parent controls its child's scale and visibility
04:44.38Xinhuanan object's anchor controls its position ;p
04:44.40Xinhuanis that clear?
04:44.53Xinhuanso go foo:SetPoint() something
04:45.40maqri'm not sure i get it... it's displaying a red bar in the middle of the screen, so isn't that where the anchor is?
04:45.45Xinhuanno
04:45.59Xinhuanyour texture is anchored
04:46.02Xinhuanyour frame isn't
04:46.17maqrbut i have foo:SetPoint("CENTER",0,0)", which is where it's putting it, at 0,0
04:46.21Xinhuanso your texture is displayed, your frame is not
04:46.21maqrand that's on the frame, no?
04:46.25Xinhuanyes
04:46.45Xinhuani'm telling you, your texture has a width/height/anchor, so its displayed
04:46.55Xinhuanyour frame has width/height/noanchor, so not displayed
04:47.17maqrbut i'm calling SetWidth/height/point directly on the frame....
04:47.18Xinhuanyour texture is shown because its parent is shown (but not drawn by the UI since it has no anchor)
04:47.38Xinhuanok.................
04:47.46maqrSetPoint("CENTER",0,0) doesn't set the anchor?
04:47.58Xinhuani'm stumped
04:48.08Xinhuandid theonclick work?
04:48.53maqrno :(
04:49.00Brunershaste: oGlow is being bad and removes the character pane icon
04:49.00maqri'll repaste exactly what i have, sec
04:50.43Xinhuanfoo:SetScript("OnDragStart", foo.StartMoving)
04:50.44Xinhuansigh
04:50.48Xinhuancan't believe i didn't see that
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04:51.51maqrXinhuan: wait, it worked with this.StartMoving
04:52.02maqrXinhuan: i reloaded my UI and now it does it... that's so confusing though
04:52.21maqri mean, i was reassigning 'foo' each time, and foo:Hide() before i re-ran it
04:52.46maqri thought i read that frames can only be hidden and not destroyed, so that should totally recreate a new frame?
04:52.58Xinhuanno
04:53.01Xinhuanyou should reuse
04:53.46maqrin an addon, yeah, i was just trying to start fresh each time in wowlua so i wouldn't screw anyting up
04:53.49maqr*anything
04:54.02maqrXinhuan: i can't believe this works though, thanks so much
04:54.17Xinhuanwell like we said, its less than 10 lines of code
04:54.26maqr17 :)
04:54.28Xinhuanyou can probably remove your OnClicks
04:54.35Xinhuanunless you want menus on right click or something
04:54.43maqr15 then :)
04:54.56Xinhuanthe actual code that does teh dragging is less than 10
04:54.58Brunersno wonder my wow seemed to be dark, i have had a frame covering my screen with .3 opacity all this time
04:55.03maqrXinhuan: you're right :)
04:55.10maqrXinhuan: it's less intimidating when it actually works
04:55.29Xinhuanhaha bruners
04:55.32Xinhuanhow did you manage that
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04:55.51Brunersall since the WatchFrame change
04:56.08Xinhuanhow is that relevant
04:56.20Brunersi used to have a dark background on my quest tracker
04:56.38Brunersthen it gave error, so i changed it to watchframe and forgot about it
04:58.28maqrok, so now that i know how to make a frame, set a background, and move it around a bit... the docs say SetText() should print text on the "button's label"... but if i actually want text inside my bar, where would i look to do that?
04:58.53Xinhuaneasy)
04:59.17Xinhuanfoo.string = foo:CreateFontString(nil, "ARTWORK", "GameFontNormalSmall")
04:59.29Xinhuanfoo.SetPoint("LEFT", 0, 0)
04:59.33Xinhuanfoo:SetPoint("LEFT", 0, 0) i mean
04:59.40Xinhuanthen foo:SetText()
04:59.59Xinhuanyou can also do the other fancy stuff, like SetWidth/Height/alignemnt/wrapping, etc
05:00.03Brunersnot foo.string:SetText?
05:00.14Xinhuanerr yeah, foo.string:SetText()
05:00.29Bruners:)
05:00.42Xinhuanmake sure your fontstring is on the same or above level of your texture
05:01.02Xinhuani used "ARTWORK" here, forgot what layer your texture is on
05:01.03Brunersi make all my text string on overlay
05:01.25maqromg it works
05:01.26Xinhuani should sleep
05:01.29Xinhuan1pm isn't very good
05:01.41Xinhuanto be still up and awake
05:01.43maqrfoo.string:SetPoint("LEFT",0,0)
05:01.56maqrXinhuan: g'night, thanks again, i'm off to a good start here
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05:08.01maqrhow do we know about things like 'GameNormalFontSmall'? is there a list somewhere?
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05:09.08Xinhuanyes
05:09.39Xinhuango see Fonts.xml and FontStyles.xml
05:09.43Xinhuanin default UI framexml
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05:11.25NeoTronfucking finally
05:11.26NeoTronyogg down
05:11.34Axodioushard?
05:11.36NeoTronwith just two deaths and like over a minute to spare too
05:11.42NeoTronhard? normal mode yogg :P
05:11.48Axodiousoh lol, grtz
05:11.51maqrah, awesome
05:11.58NeoTronwe havent really been in too much due to attendance
05:12.48Axodiouswe just got hodir hard tonight
05:12.53Axodiouspretty close attempt on thorim hard too
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05:13.36NeoTrone're trying medium council now
05:13.52NeoTronactually we probably spent a good 6-7 hrs on yogg, not more
05:13.57durcynrunemaster last is easy, just spec a mage with imp blizzard
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05:14.54Axodiousyes
05:14.57Axodiousif you dont
05:14.58Axodiousits hell
05:14.59Axodious>_>
05:15.08Axodiouswe did like 15 attempts before we found out our mage didnt
05:15.13Axodiousone shot after he did
05:16.19NeoTronwe'll have two with imp blizz
05:17.09Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r1877 ARLFrame.lua:
05:17.12RepoWhen removing the tradeskill list of an alt, check to see if there are any more tradeskill lists under that realm and remove the realm if not.
05:17.15RepoFurther prettified the menus by adding headers where they were missing and using the new LibQTip separator line.
05:18.16Brunerssup with server restarts
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05:28.40NeoTronlol
05:28.44NeoTrongood first try
05:28.49NeoTronpull. stellbreaker tank dies
05:28.52NeoTron2 seconds in
05:29.03NeoTronbest comment "it's ok guys, it's hard mode ... oh wait"
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05:49.09maqrif i want my addon to have a gui config in the interface/addons menu, should i be using AceConfigDialog-3?
05:49.35durcynmaqr: yes, specifically AddToBlizOptions
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05:51.21maqrdurcyn: is it supposed to handle the config widgets for you? i want to allow the user to resize a bar on the screen, like a slider for width, height, scale, etc
05:51.49durcynyou need a properly formed options table
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06:01.32Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r1878 ARLFrame.lua:
06:01.35RepoIn addon:SetupMap(): Added check for loc == nil and return if so, added another return if no map was found.
06:07.17NeoTronok mediun mode council was pretty easy
06:07.53NeoTronnow we have 2 hrs to kill ignis in 4 minutes
06:08.35NeoTronhink that should be trivial
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06:10.28durcynalso easy =P
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06:15.21RepoPreliminary recording of currency tokens. Searchable and shows in tooltips as well.
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06:54.03Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r179 / (6 files in 1 directory): SKG :
06:54.06Repo- next dropdown up, Toon chooser
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06:54.47Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 6de20dd Modules/RangeFader/RangeFader.lua: [+1 commit] Ticket 393: Druid enemy spells for range fader.
06:54.53Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r176 / (10 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 7 lines)
06:54.56Repo---------
06:54.59Repo3.1.2.03
06:55.02Repo---------
06:55.05RepoReorganized and updated all documentation, in game and out
07:02.50VonhintenWhat's all this stuff I'm seeing about stacking ArP on a rogue now...
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07:11.55Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r180 / (6 files in 1 directory): SKG :
07:11.58Repo- get rid of now unused procedures
07:15.09durcynVonhinten: all melee, not just rogues
07:16.51NeoTronnot all dk's
07:17.02NeoTronlike uh especially
07:18.41Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.1.2.03-release * r177 : Tagged release 3.1.2.03
07:20.52Cheads@project speakinspell
07:20.53RepoCheads: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/speakinspell/. SpeakinSpell. Game: WoW. rismisner (Manager/Author), Meneldil_Duskwood (Tester), leXin (Translator). Updated: 2 minutes ago. Tickets: 4/9
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07:23.43Megaloneven now that ArPen is capped at 100% with 3.1.2? :c
07:25.40VonhintenI have no idea... so much information out there, unorganised, scattered, and conflicting
07:26.52VonhintenI don't trust that these spreadsheets are realistic... but I don't have a choice, so I follow them
07:28.00VonhintenThe "experts" go crazy claiming shit like "You don't need more then 99 hit rating! You're a fucking idiot if you get more than that"
07:28.13VonhintenThen two weeks later, it's all about capping poison hit
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07:54.38orionshockanyone know of a cli app that fixes the line endings in a file?
07:55.48Arrowmasterdos2unix?
07:57.18orionshockthank you! i knew i had it installed, just didn't know what it was called
07:59.33ArrowmasterVonhinten: my friend was going for max hit and haste on his combat rogue back in the tier5 days when it wasnt as common, he was actually pulling aggro on hydross one night because of he had so much hit and haste that combat potency was giving him more energy than he could use plus all the threat from energy gains
08:00.02Arrowmastercombat potency was later nerfed i think
08:01.37Repo10skillet: 03lilsparky 06lilsparkys-clone * r158 / (2 files in 2 directories):
08:01.40Repocleaned up some recipe display issues (like, horrible truncation of recipe names)
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08:03.24Repo- fixed alt detection argument
08:04.06airtonixblizzard: don't shine in hte niche we create for you [menacing nerfbat]
08:05.02airtonixblizzard: relishe the mediocracy that the cliff edges has destined for you!
08:13.16orionshockwowlua crashes my client :(
08:13.26jnwhitehlol
08:13.28jnwhitehhow'd you manage that?
08:13.36orionshockgood question
08:13.37Kalrothhe ran some of your code!
08:14.02orionshocktho agUF is broked for me...
08:14.13orionshockag_UnitFrames-r705\ag_UnitClass.lua:618: aUFFontString4:SetText(): Font not set
08:14.22jnwhitehwell, please get me some more information
08:14.43orionshockjnwhiteh: sadly i don't have any... it up and crashes, not errors
08:14.53jnwhitehyes.. but what are you doing..
08:15.01orionshockopening the window
08:15.04orionshock<PROTECTED>
08:15.14orionshock<PROTECTED>
08:15.15jnwhitehvia addonloader, or not
08:15.20orionshocknope
08:16.39orionshockanyone know if table.wipe() clears the metatable too?
08:16.57[Ammo]doesn't
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08:17.15[Ammo]it's basically: for k, v in pairs(t) do t[k] = nil end
08:17.23thulwhat is a "representative officer" in a branch of a firm? what kind of job is that ?
08:18.09Vonhintencould be anything
08:18.26orionshockthul: straight guess - Someone with a bit of authority that does highlevel inter-company interactions.
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08:19.21thulhmm, I can't seem to find any clear definition, and I'm supposed to translate this important legal document to norwegian :-P great
08:20.04Vonhintenjust do a literal translation?
08:20.26thulwell, that sounds really funky, but I guess I should do that.
08:21.44Vonhintenofficers generally have the authority to act on a company's behalf
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08:24.10thulhmm, ok, maybe the same as we call daily ldeader
08:24.12VonhintenThere's no C level for "representative" :)
08:24.47thulAh, I found it.
08:24.54thuladministrating director
08:24.57thulis the norwegian term
08:25.12Vonhintenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_title#C-level
08:25.33airtonix"representative officer" = person that takes the blame for the bosses actions
08:29.39Megalondeclares Fisker- the Representative Officer of everything
08:29.44jnwhitehidd
08:29.49jnwhitehi support this appointment
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08:30.55VonhintenGive that guy an inch, he'll take a mile
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08:40.36digmouseShefkiL ping
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08:43.57Repo10better-outbox: 03Ammo * r10 BetterOutbox.lua: focus the editbox as well after sending a mail
08:45.07Repo10better-outbox: 03Ammo 04r10-release * r11 : Tagging as r10-release
08:47.28orionshock... my client is hanging on a table concatonation...
08:47.30orionshockcrapz
08:49.08Repo10fubar_restfu: 03phyber 07master * v1.3-1-gcb2e3a2 FuBar_RestFu.toc: [+1 commit] Get rid of LoD line in TOC.
08:49.19Repo10fubar_restfu: 03phyber 04v1.3.1 * 1ed9bc4 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.3.1
08:49.39orionshockanyone know what the max num letters is for a multiline edit box?
08:52.25jnwhitehyou can se it
08:53.25orionshockwell aparently that's not the problem...
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08:54.15orionshockEditBox:SetMaxLetters(999999999999999999999) <-- is not crashing the client, however i think it's the SetText() call after it with more than 100000 chars in it that is however the problem...
08:54.39orionshocktime for a new approach...
08:55.02KalrothThat's a pretty long text too
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08:57.29Repo10xpbarnone: 03phyber 07master * v1.4.4-1-g2d9eba5 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Added [nLVL] token for showing what the next level is.
08:57.48Repo10xpbarnone: 03phyber 04v1.4.5 * 122ea88 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.4.5
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09:01.40orionshockKalroth: well it's an export, so ya it's gonna be long
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09:06.15Antiarchttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17345814819&sid=1
09:07.42vhaarrAntiarc: make an addon that prints a smiley face in the middle of your screen if the character is a warrior
09:08.00Repo10libqtip-1-0: 03Adirelle * r81 LibQTip-1.0.lua:
09:08.03RepoReset auto-hiding on release (so we recycle the timer frame).
09:08.06RepoProperly recycle frame lineHeap and columnHeap when upgrading from version prior to minor 14.
09:09.04Groktaropens 25 vent clients again
09:10.14Cheadshmm suddenly all my mining nodes are not showing up... (mapster + gathermate) ... hmmm worked yesterday.. really odd
09:11.03Cheadsnot showing up on minimap either
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09:27.33Groktaruploads a screenshot
09:27.42Groktarhttp://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=84
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09:30.53orionshock<3 time to make aceconfig do something it prolly wasn't suposed to :)
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09:44.10Cheadsoh well.. my gathermate wtf file was suddenly empty for some odd reason.... so that's why the nodes were gone =)
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09:46.16SunTsuman, today's dilbert is totally win
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09:50.37CheadsSunTsu yeah =)
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10:10.43Natherulhoi all, does anyone know what wrong when since the last patch the icons for finding veins and players are huge? i want it back to standard
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10:12.06orionshockNatherul: you talking about the natural nodes that are gold coloured or the ones added to the minimap by addons?
10:12.45robotuschProbably the natural ones, the one used by tracking "spells"
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10:14.48Natherulnatural ones yeah and players in your party
10:21.18StanzillaJudge Reviewing Pirate Bay Trial Bias Is Removed for Bias < haha
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10:25.42Natherulorionshock: any idea what it might be?
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10:32.17AdirelleAntiarc: I made some EM enhancements, I'm wondering if you would like merge them into SwapMaggic (it may be off-topic) : http://paste.wowace.com/708/
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10:45.04orionshockNatherul: ?
10:45.43Natheruli replied that it is the vein like thing from normal wow and player icons when they are in your party. do you know what the problem might be?
10:46.16Lukianvein like thing? the red lightning bolt indicating a disconnection? :p
10:46.21orionshockprobbabbly blizzard not parenting or setting the scale on properly on the blips like they've messed up for a patch or 3
10:46.55orionshockprobably blizzard not parenting or setting the scale on the blips properly like they've messed up for a patch or 3
10:47.47Natherulhow come its only a problem for me and like 1 other person i have talked to (in a raid of 10)
10:49.27orionshockprolly b/c no one cares?
10:50.35Natherulwell they said that the icons are same size as it usually is... see  i had a problem tanking malygos as usually another persong pings were i should go so we can stack the sparks but i could not see the arrow that if you in minimap as the other player icons took up the whole platform...
10:50.57Natheruland besides it is ugly as hell..... does all of you have the same bugg as well then?
10:51.50Repo10misspelled: 03nrpieper * r24 / (2 files in 1 directory):
10:51.53RepoChanged the misspelled highlighting to a medium-cyan-ish color.  Hopefully this will make it easier to see misspelled words in all the common channels: Say, Party, Raid, Guild, Whisper, Trade, Yell
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10:56.27Repo10tehtip: 03copystring * r14 .pkgmeta: - fix .pkgmeta
10:57.39sb|work@describe tehtip
10:57.40Reposb|work: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/tehtip/. TehTip. About TehTip TehTip is a for tooltip improvement that just does what i need, it's simple, lightweight and just works. There is no configuration screen, it just works out of the box, if you want a...
11:23.00Repo10nauticus: 03Drool * r141 / (2 files in 1 directory): - add debug check for comms hash
11:23.03Repo- fix OptionalDeps and put back X-Embeds
11:23.24Arrowmasterx-embeds is useless......
11:23.33[Ammo]utterly useless
11:23.49Droolionope, not for ACP and disembed mode
11:24.01[Ammo]useless for disembed
11:24.08Drooliowhy?
11:24.12Repo10nauticus: 03Drool 043.1.2 * r142 : Tagging as 3.1.2
11:24.12[Ammo]because it doesn't use it?
11:24.20[Ammo]it uses .pkgmeta
11:24.23DroolioACP enabled libs where addons include X-Embeds
11:24.29Droolioenables*
11:24.33ArrowmasterUSELESS
11:24.37[Ammo]useless
11:24.48Droolioyou're not listening
11:24.48jnwhitehuseful?
11:24.59[Ammo]not really if you have optdeps set already
11:24.59orionshockDroolio: they are..
11:25.02[Ammo]then the libs load anyway
11:25.07iphigenia;D
11:25.11[Ammo]so optdeps + x-embeds is useless
11:25.13DroolioACP cannot read OptDeps
11:25.18Droolioand so enable the libs
11:25.18Arrowmasterno i am
11:25.23orionshockbut the game client can
11:25.24Arrowmasteri know exactly what acp does with it
11:25.35[Ammo]the game client does load the libs with optdeps
11:25.40Drooliootherwise u have to enable all libs, which isn't always desirable as not every lib is LoD
11:25.43[Ammo]ACP shouldn't have to do anything for that
11:25.45Droolio^
11:25.55Arrowmasterif a lib isnt LoD then its for a reason
11:25.59orionshockDroolio: every lib should be designed as LoD
11:26.04Droolioadding X-Embeds harms nothing, it's for my environment only
11:26.09Drooliobut every lib isn't
11:26.23orionshockname one? really...
11:26.27Droolioi'm not gonna petition the author of every lib
11:26.30Drooliook...
11:26.42orionshocki can't remember one that i use that isn't lod
11:27.04Droolioi did in fact check this with my own addons but i'll dig a few out...
11:27.10Arrowmasterthe only one i can think of might be libguildpossition-1.0
11:27.57orionshock...
11:29.21Droolioi have a lot of libs :)
11:29.26orionshocklol
11:29.28Arrowmasteri have more
11:29.33DroolioLibAboutPanel explicitly has LoD: 0
11:29.47Arrowmasterblame ackis for that then
11:29.58Arrowmasterit shouldnt be
11:30.04Drooliomy point still stands, it's for my own env and doesn't harm anything
11:30.17Droolioi can't petition every author to fix it. many of the libs are quite old
11:30.19orionshockthis is true.
11:30.30Arrowmastermemory usage bloat!
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11:31.09orionshockDroolio: oddly enough Arrowmaster maintains alot of the "old" unused libs iirc.. tho i think it's more of a protective role than development :)
11:31.15Droolioi'm thinking of writing an addon like Buggrabber which catches all load errors and enables such libs on the fly and /rl
11:32.08Droolioheh
11:32.11orionshockDroolio: it's been backwards broken sense Ace3 became popular and LibStub took hold.
11:32.24Arrowmasteragain, useless
11:32.26orionshock<PROTECTED>
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11:32.43Arrowmasterthats why libs are LoD and addons optdep libs
11:33.21Droolioagain, not all
11:33.34orionshockone could say "The Powers that Be have decided that setting libs as LoD and OptDeping them is better than on-the-fly loading"
11:33.44Arrowmasterthen bitch at those authors that cant learn to do it right then promoting an old broken design
11:33.59Droolioi agree
11:34.07orionshockArrowmaster:  - need we cite LibHealComm
11:34.30Drooliothere's enough addons still using Ace2, Dewdrop and Tablet lib...
11:34.36Arrowmasterthe addon should either optdep, or explictly call LoadAddOn() on the library standalone name
11:34.41orionshockit's a lib that IMO shouldn't be LoD
11:34.54Zuz666Droolio: Why LibStub and CallbackHandler-1.0 is now in OptionalDeps/X-Embeds tags?
11:35.00orionshockit does things on it's own w/o the need of a parent lib
11:35.27orionshock*Parent Addon
11:37.10DroolioZuz666: is there a reason why it shouldn't?
11:37.43[Ammo]disembedding should have been killed off permanently
11:37.54[Ammo]but alas, the curse client still does it
11:37.57Elkano:P
11:38.14Drooliohas anyone actually done some benchmarking?
11:38.22orionshockdisembedding has it's uses.
11:38.35[Ammo]orionshock: to those who know what they're doing and usually manually checkout addons
11:38.42[Ammo]not to the fracking entire public
11:38.46orionshockDroolio: sylvanaar did iirc, the effect was exclusively in loading into the game / reloading, otherwise no.
11:39.03orionshock[Ammo]: true that...
11:39.32ArrowmasterDroolio: there is no libstub or callbackhandler-1.0 standalone so adding them to optdep/x-embeds is pointless
11:39.55Zuz666Droolio: Check docs http://www.wowace.com/projects/libstub/
11:39.56[Ammo]Arrowmaster: apparantly the curse client feels there is
11:40.02[Ammo]barf
11:40.08DroolioArrowmaster: there are .tocs? cc put them in :/
11:40.10Arrowmaster[Ammo]: they dont have tocs though
11:40.16[Ammo]they have
11:40.20Arrowmastersince win?
11:40.25[Ammo]since ever
11:40.27[Ammo]for testing purposes
11:40.33[Ammo]not for the bloody public
11:40.38[Ammo]but the curse client sucks donkey balls
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11:41.16Trellhey, how do I find out the frame names of Autobar bars?
11:41.16[Ammo]don't get me wrong, I appreciate curse doing what they do for wowace, but I just hate some of the choices being madwe
11:41.26Trellall I can get is AutoBarButtonHearthFrame, for example
11:41.33[Ammo]Trell: /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName()
11:41.34Arrowmasterthats not a curse client fault, its because we never got the shit sorted out when the merge started even though i bitched and bitched that it needed to be done
11:41.39Trellyes, im doing that
11:41.43Trellbut I can only get button names :(
11:41.47[Ammo]Arrowmaster: the client has a disembed option
11:41.48Trellnot the bar name
11:41.52[Ammo]remove that and problem solved
11:42.00[Ammo]Trell: /dump GetMouseFocus():GetParent():GetName() ?
11:42.08[Ammo]or read the source
11:42.19Trellawesome, that woked, thanks
11:42.21Trell*worked
11:42.31Arrowmaster[Ammo]: i know it does, i always agrued that libstub and callbackhandler should never be excluded in nolib zips
11:42.48[Ammo]yeah it was my opinion that was a fact as well
11:42.53[Ammo]but apparantly it isn't
11:43.17orionshockwhy have special treatment?
11:43.28[Ammo]because they're special
11:43.29Arrowmasterbecause those arent suppost to have standalone versions
11:44.32orionshockhow are they special? really all it is, is an inter-lib dependency and why should it get special treatment?
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11:45.28orionshockand they only reason anyone says "they arn't supposed to have stand alone versions" is because that's what someone orgionaly said trying to push an agenda that really dosn't fit the distro scheme anymore.
11:45.33Arrowmasterbecause to keep things simple they werent suppost to ever have standalone versions (atleast for the general public to ever find)
11:45.44Arrowmasterright
11:45.46Arrowmasterand guess what
11:46.25orionshockthe distribution scheme dosn't fit that idea anymore. It is functionally easier to treat them like just another lib than to do anything special for it.
11:46.31Arrowmasterwhen new wowace happened i argued that either it needed to have changes that allowed for those decisions or those decisions needed to be reevaluated
11:46.39ArrowmasterNEITHER HAPPENED
11:46.55[Ammo]orionshock: libstub was never meant standalone, neither was cbh
11:47.09[Ammo]period.
11:47.29[Ammo]the fact that they are now installed standalone by the damn client is wrong
11:47.37Arrowmasteruntil a new decision is made on how to handle libstub and cbh nothing has changed on how they are suppost to be handled
11:48.01Drooliobut it has a .toc. maybe remove the .toc if it wasn't intended to be standalone?
11:48.14Arrowmaster[Ammo]: that can be fix, mark all the files on the projects as deleted
11:48.15[Ammo]removing the .toc now will break stuff for users that went 'zomg disembedded'
11:48.17Droolioi'm sure u can specify exceptions in the packaging?
11:48.29Droolioaye
11:48.52orionshocki can see we are failing to see some of the logic here. There is nothing functionally preventing them from being installed stand alone. There is no Restricting or Preventing reason WHY they cannot have stand alones. Therefore there is no reason to treat them special.
11:49.08[Ammo]orionshock: the reason is the developers decided it shouldn't
11:49.18Arrowmasteron my libraries i mark libstub/cbh as included by the packager and then set the packager to not create nolib versions so nothing is broken for disembeded users
11:49.41orionshock[Ammo]: unfortunately i don't find that as a valid point.
11:49.47[Ammo]too bad for you
11:50.00[Ammo]you have no say in the matter as you are no dev on them
11:50.03Arrowmasteryou either use it how the developers allow you or you dont use it at all
11:50.22orionshock[Ammo]: im not arguing for something to be done, im just moving though the logic of the situation.
11:52.16[Ammo]guess I could just go and mark all my addons as don't create no-lib versions
11:52.43[Ammo]and suggest lots of people do that, it would solve a ton of complaints
11:52.50[Ammo]and probably generate some new ones but shrug
11:52.50Droolioi like nolib versions :/ ls/cbh works as standalone in my env...
11:52.52Arrowmasteraddons are fine without libstub/cbh being in them, because its ment to never be missing from the libraries
11:52.53Groktarmarks all of [Ammo] addons as his territory
11:53.16Kalrothmarks Ammos addons as force-lib
11:53.17orionshockoy, dead point on the handling.. nevermind...
11:53.36ArrowmasterDroolio: those standalones never get run though because its already been loaded from elsewhere
11:54.02[Ammo]and there is a reason no-one opt-deps libstub
11:54.05[Ammo]for instance
11:54.11[Ammo]it's meant to be included
11:54.42DroolioArrowmaster: i notice several addons including ls/cbh inside the no-lib-strip bit, and others, not. so there is some confusion at least amongst the authors
11:54.49Arrowmasterin the libraries is never suppost to be missing, it can be missing from an addon and expected to be loaded by the libraries
11:54.59[Ammo]Droolio: becuase LS and CBH are included in the libs
11:55.00Drooliomaybe what's needed is some validation of the addons stored on curse/wowace?
11:55.05[Ammo]so they can be libstripped frmo addons
11:55.18ArrowmasterDroolio: blame that on because at first LS/CBH were included in no-lib zips
11:55.25Arrowmasterthen they went change changed the packager on us
11:55.33[Ammo]indeed
11:55.49[Ammo]anyway, my meaty lunch got brought in
11:55.52[Ammo]time to eat some cow
11:56.18Kalrothmoo
11:56.48ArrowmasterDroolio: the validation is simple, i tell people when theyve fucked up, they fix it or i continue to berate them until they either fix it or leave (has happened, was a joyous momment)
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11:57.15Droolioheh
11:59.08sb|workmh - is there some health addon/plugin for bigwigs? (e.g. healthbars for XT sections)
11:59.26sylvanaarno
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12:00.07sylvanaarwow - i missed the war this am
12:00.36sylvanaarmy favorite button to push too
12:01.26orionshock>.>
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12:02.10sb|worksylvanaar: no is the wrong answer :(
12:02.36sylvanaarsb|work no - it is always the right answer =)
12:03.06Trellargh, I'm going to have to ask again, has anyone succesfully attached a resizing frame with kgpanels to Grid?
12:03.17TrellI'm using the code here: http://www.wowace.com/projects/kg-panels/pages/sample-scripts/#w_resizing-your-panel-on-the-fly
12:03.30Trellbut when I change Grid size layout, the panel just seems to resize randomly
12:03.46Trellie; doesnt resize properly for solo/5/10 man
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12:06.06orionshocktrell either your using the wrong frame to resize it to, or you've got something wrong in the math
12:06.49Trellyes I see, its not a literal copy/paste, I needed to change the frame names, I was being stupid ><
12:08.37sylvanaar## OptionalDeps: LibStub
12:09.00sylvanaaryou have to have it in standalone libraries
12:09.17orionshocksylvanaar: them's is fighting words around here :)
12:09.20sylvanaari kno
12:09.25sylvanaarbut its tru
12:09.31sylvanaargo look
12:09.40orionshocksylvanaar: it's a matter of opinion
12:10.06Arrowmasterif your library doesnt always have libstub then its broken
12:10.29Drooliolibstub works standalone, how is it broken?
12:10.47Arrowmasterbecause the libstub authors say so
12:10.48sylvanaarno no, if you dont hard embed it, it wont be in the standalone
12:10.56Arrowmastersylvanaar: wrong
12:11.03sylvanaarok
12:11.04Arrowmasteryou can disable no-lib's
12:11.07Drooliosure, it goes against the docs but then the docs were written yonks ago and a .toc has since been introduced
12:11.24DroolioCBH even has LOD: 1
12:11.52Arrowmasterbecause people stoped following the directions and fucked things up
12:12.06Droolioif u want to fix it, remove the .toc's and break a few addons
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12:12.18orionshockArrowmaster: right, but if anyone else tried to host a lib here that they "say" is designed to ONLY be embedded. would you harass them till they fixed it to be like all the other libs?
12:12.23Droolioit'll only mess up disembed setups, right?
12:12.51kagaroArrowmaster:  just remove the toc, and put it in bold letters on the addon page ... DONT DIS EMBED
12:13.16sylvanaarat one point, the nolib stiandalones would not load, i guess they added the no disembed option later
12:13.49Arrowmastermost libraries dont even include libstub/cbh via the packager
12:14.04Arrowmasteri think im the only person that doesnt hardembed
12:16.00sylvanaari dont really see how that helps
12:16.23[Ammo]easy, libstub and cbh are always in the package then
12:16.31Arrowmasterwhen its hardembeded you would have never even seen a no-lib for the library
12:16.37sylvanaar" i think im the only person that doesnt hardembed"
12:18.31Drooliowill removing a .toc from a package tell CC to remove that addon? what i'm wondering is, would it suddenly break ppl's disemb setups?
12:18.39jnwhitehis the author of AuctionLite ever on IRC?
12:18.50[Ammo]jnwhiteh: don't think so
12:18.51sylvanaarso...you just disable nolibs on libs in their standalone version - thats what you are saying
12:18.59ArrowmasterDroolio: nothing will break
12:19.02jnwhitehk
12:19.10ArrowmasterBECAUSE NOTHING OPTDEPS LIBSTUB
12:19.17sylvanaaroh yes
12:19.21sylvanaarit does
12:19.30Drooliobut addons do
12:19.35Arrowmasterno they dont
12:19.40Pneumatusaddons shouldnt.
12:19.50Droolioyea there's a difference between shouldn't and do
12:19.57[Ammo]those that do will break
12:20.01Arrowmasterhttp://www.wowwiki.com/LibStub
12:20.02Droolioremoving the .toc would clear up the confusion
12:20.03[Ammo]and that's not something we want for the users
12:20.04sylvanaarthey can and do - because at one point it was the only thing that worked in the no-lib cases
12:20.10Arrowmaster"don't set LibStub as X-embeded or OptDep "
12:20.19Arrowmastersylvanaar: wrong
12:20.24Droolioit's *supposed* to be embed and not standalone and yet there is a .toc with LoD: 1
12:20.31Pneumatusaddons expect the libs to have LS/CBH embedded if they are running nolib
12:20.37Droolioso remove the .toc and authors will stop using it wrongly
12:20.40Pneumatusor at least should
12:20.41[Ammo]Pneumatus: indeed
12:20.41Arrowmasterread the fucking page, that is covered in the entire intended design
12:20.43sylvanaarbut it was being removed
12:20.47sylvanaaris what i am saying
12:20.49orionshocknotice how no one has answered my question...
12:20.51Pneumatusyou optdep Ace3, knowing that it embeds LS/CBH itself
12:21.17ArrowmasterDroolio: almost nobody uses it wrong
12:21.45orionshockif anyone else tried to host a lib here that they "say" is designed to ONLY be embedded and that it was not designed to be standalone, would you harass them till they fixed it to be like all the other libs?
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12:22.12[Ammo]orionshock: no
12:22.16Arrowmasterorionshock: depends on how well the design was done
12:22.18WobinWe'd set upon them with rabid dogs.
12:22.22WobinThat shoot lasers
12:22.23sylvanaaronly if it didnt have a - in the name
12:23.10sylvanaarit should be called "passive agressive embedding"
12:23.36[Ammo]and all this is caused by that curse client
12:23.39[Ammo]grr
12:23.40Arrowmasterorionshock: libstub/cbh can work that way because of how they are used, some other noname lib that was only used by addons would end up causing more trouble then it was worth and people wouldnt listen
12:23.47[Ammo]remove the disembed option and all of this is a moot point :)
12:23.55orionshockpreferential treatment breeds contempt
12:23.59Droolioall this is caused by putting a .toc in there
12:24.20[Ammo]the toc is in there for development reasons, the whole of libstub should be set to 'never package'
12:24.25ArrowmasterDroolio: no its not
12:24.38[Ammo]or maybe that's a bit much
12:24.40Droolioyou can exclude the .toc in the packaging right?
12:25.01sylvanaarpeople wanted no-lib versions
12:25.09[Ammo]people are misguided
12:25.10Arrowmaster[Ammo]: i think packaging needs to be enabled for the 'tag: latest' detection
12:25.33Droolioi don't mind if libstub/cbh choose to be special, i do want the disembed option for the rest of my addons tho...
12:25.37Arrowmasterbut it should still work if the files are deleted
12:25.53[Ammo]it should, but I don't intend to risk breaking it
12:26.00Pneumatusi cant believe people still run nolibs :P
12:26.12Arrowmasteri kinda do
12:26.25[Ammo]I run all svn/git checkouts
12:26.34Arrowmasterbut mines all dev versions
12:26.40[Ammo]but that's because I kinda know what I'm doing
12:26.51Arrowmasterand that causes its own loading time issues
12:26.57[Ammo]yup
12:26.59sylvanaartrue
12:27.23Pneumatusloading time issues because of the additional metadata?
12:27.31sylvanaarfile enumeration
12:27.33[Ammo]additional files that wow checks out
12:27.37Pneumatusyeh
12:27.44[Ammo]but really it's bloody minior
12:28.29sylvanaarthat enumeration forces all the files into the cache too
12:28.53sylvanaarforces -> usually leads to them being
12:29.22Arrowmaster15403 Files, 7874 Folders
12:29.29Arrowmaster210 MB
12:29.37Arrowmasterthats my AddOns folder
12:29.43[Ammo]I have something similar
12:30.02[Ammo]and it's no biggie
12:30.24Arrowmasternone of the extra stuff actually gets run, its just scanned
12:30.38Arrowmasterso yeah almost no time is spent on it
12:31.09sylvanaarhaving alot of non-addon files means that the addon files are less likely to be in the cache
12:31.37[Ammo]if you go back to embedded libs
12:31.47[Ammo]with libstub vs acelibrary things changed as well
12:31.54[Ammo]acelibrary ran it's stuff continuesly
12:32.03[Ammo]while libstub libs bail out early
12:32.17[Ammo]the speed increase frmo disembedding is negligable
12:32.31Arrowmasterright
12:32.48sylvanaarlibstub is just a convienince to have standalone it streamlines certain things
12:32.50Arrowmasterthe loading caused now is less than it used to be
12:33.00[Ammo]Arrowmaster: indeed
12:33.28[Ammo]acelibrary used to load build and parse an entire new lib. while libstub tells you early if you need to upgrade or gtfo
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12:34.04sylvanaarit had been using libstub since libstub was written though
12:34.13Arrowmasterthe only real benefit to end users running disembedded is that the idiots wont be able to report errors to the wrong place because a library embedded in an addon triggered an error
12:34.19Xinhuanloading time is likely increased more due to the .git and .svn folders and their contents
12:34.22[Ammo]sylvanaar: not quite in the real sense
12:34.37[Ammo]it just registered its libs with it as well
12:34.40Arrowmastersylvanaar: acelibrary still runs the entire file though even though it uses libstub
12:34.48[Ammo]but the whole process of acelibrary still runs the whole file
12:35.12Arrowmasterlibstub libs bail out on like the 2nd line of code
12:35.32sylvanaarah well, alot of times running a whole file is onlye a few more operations to store closures
12:35.52sylvanaarcould be more sure
12:36.14[Ammo]acelibrary libs usually build an entire replacemt lib object
12:36.18sylvanaardepends how cluttered the main chunk is
12:36.23sylvanaaryeah
12:36.31sylvanaari realize why now
12:36.38XinhuanAckis, libaboutpanel should be LoD
12:36.58ArrowmasterAckis fucks up and ruins the world again
12:37.51Droolioand it shouldn't have libstub and cbh in optdeps?
12:37.59Arrowmasterit should not
12:38.16Droolioremove the .toc, i wanna see the chaos :)
12:38.24Arrowmasternothing will happen
12:38.32Zuz666yep!
12:40.12Droolionot immediately maybe. but addons would need to be updated to fix their no-lib versions?
12:40.15sylvanaareither way - it works when they are disembedded also. there is no getting around that detail.
12:40.22ArrowmasterDroolio: no
12:40.59ArrowmasterDroolio: again read http://www.wowwiki.com/LibStub
12:41.01sylvanaar## OptionalDeps: LibStub (LibSink-2.0)
12:41.14Drooliothen it's ok to remove the .toc...
12:41.22Arrowmasterthe information there also applies to CBH for how to include
12:41.34DroolioArrowmaster: difference between what should be and what is...
12:42.19Arrowmasterand unless a user is only using addons and libraries that have done it incorrectly nothing will break
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12:43.16Droolioand yet there are numerous addons that do it incorrectly due to the confusion surrounding the libstub standalone/.toc
12:43.20thuland that is _one_ hot lady: http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/05/12/veruschka,0.jpg
12:43.31sylvanaarfor example LibBetterBlizOptions, does not contain libstub, nor does it optdep it. so it will error in any case where libstub has not already been loaded
12:43.50[Ammo]LibBetterBlizOptions should never have been a library anyway
12:43.54[Ammo]it's a fricking addon not a lib
12:44.05sylvanaareither way
12:44.07Arrowmasterdoes it even use libstub?
12:44.08[Ammo]and you can give examples all day, the wiki says what it says for a reason
12:44.10sylvanaaryes
12:44.48Arrowmasteryou can blame Antiarc for fucking that one up
12:44.51Drooliothen remove the .toc's, it'll force authors to use it properly...
12:45.12[Ammo]removing disembed option from curse client would be a lot better
12:45.16sylvanaarits a rememnant of the framework war, that just wont die
12:45.20Drooliosigh
12:45.23Xinhuanwell, it does no harm no optdep LibStub, why are we arguing about this
12:45.29Xinhuanto*
12:45.49sylvanaarright, no harm, exactly
12:45.54Arrowmasterit does do harm
12:46.05[Ammo]well at least bigwigs3 will be more efficient when using the lib embedded version :)
12:46.13Xinhuanall it does is make libstub load first
12:46.16Xinhuanthere isn't any harm
12:46.29[Ammo]no babble-zone and babble-boss then for english users is loaded then
12:46.37[Ammo]that should teach the disembedded crew
12:46.41Droolioit breaks the docs apparently...
12:47.23[Ammo]hmm double then in my sentence
12:47.31Elkanothe wiki says what it says because I wrote it that way iirc ^^
12:47.39[Ammo]and rightfully so
12:47.40Drooliosince x-embeds was removed from most addons, it's not a breeze to run disembed anyway. u need to know what you're doing...
12:47.51[Ammo]x-embeds does nothing at all
12:47.53Elkanothat was when neither LS nor CBH had standalone versions on the old wowace svn
12:48.06[Ammo]Elkano: the policy still stands
12:48.10Droolioammo: it helps ACP enable my non-LOD addons
12:48.21Xinhuanits irrelevant - it does no harm to optdep it
12:48.24Xinhuanwhy are we arguing
12:48.37Elkanoyeah, I put it in optdeps, too
12:48.39[Ammo]it's a principle thing
12:48.58Xinhuanthe only thing about it even being a principle is only because its stated in the wiki, and is outdated
12:49.04Arrowmasterthe policy is the way it is because its designed that way so its impossible to break anything
12:49.06[Ammo]not outdated at all
12:49.09Xinhuanwiki was written when there wasn't a standalone version
12:49.22[Ammo]the policy still stands
12:49.48Xinhuanwell until there is an actual harm caused by optdepping libstub, you won't see people removing it soon
12:53.02BrunersLibStub and LibStub:GetLibrary("AceAddon-3.0", "AceHook-3.0"):NewAddon("oPanel_Hook", "AceHook-3.0")
12:53.04quiescenssomeone will always find a way to break something
12:53.05Brunersis that line correct?
12:53.16[Ammo]Bruners: no
12:53.20Zuz666Disembedding influences only the first wow client start. I  get advantage about 10-15 seconds with hard handmade disembedding for fist start. Nolib useless for me... It eats my time for handmade disembedding.
12:54.02[Ammo]the second argument to libstub's getlibrary is a true/false value to be silent or not when the lib can't be found
12:54.04sylvanaarwhen libstub was written - it was the goal of some of the developers to prevent disembedding for some reason
12:54.26[Ammo]not prevent
12:54.56[Ammo]we wanted to make sure it wasn't needed anymore by choosing an intelligent design that didn't impact loadtimes as much
12:55.33sylvanaarthat part is ok
12:55.40sylvanaarits the other part
12:55.47Bruners[Ammo]: should i be doing another GetLibrary() then ?
12:56.13[Ammo]LibStub:GetLibrary("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("oPanel_Hook", "AceHook-3.0")
12:56.37[Ammo]or LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("oPanel_Hook", "AceHook-3.0")
12:56.48Arrowmasterpart of the design is also to prevent massive library dependancy
12:57.58[Ammo]that's why CBH is made to be very small
12:58.19Repo10boss-tactics: 03sorontur * r39 / (8 files in 1 directory): BossTactics:
12:58.22Repo- final version 2.9
12:58.37[Ammo]and to prevent people from re-inventing the callback wheel over and oever
12:59.06Arrowmasterand also by there being libstub/callbackhandler standalones it introduces a single point of failure for an extremely large amount of addons
12:59.46sylvanaarLibStub.GetLibrary = nil
12:59.51sylvanaarsingle point of failure
12:59.57Repo10boss-tactics: 03sorontur 04BossTactics 2.9 * r40 : Tagging as BossTactics 2.9
13:00.17ArrowmasterDisableAddOn("LibStub")
13:00.22sylvanaarright
13:00.23Arrowmastersingle point of failure
13:00.29[Ammo]sigh
13:00.49Elkanoyeah, sylvanaar's isn't solved by embedding
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13:01.14[Ammo]the single point of failure is a bad example but shrug
13:01.25[Ammo]all we tried was to discourage disembedding for the masses
13:01.34[Ammo]but then curse decided to add the 'disembed' button in the client
13:01.36[Ammo]fucking tards
13:01.49Arrowmasterblame the WAU tards
13:01.58Arrowmasterthat wouldnt use it without it
13:02.00[Ammo]it's nolonger really needed for loading speeds
13:02.05Droolioperhaps it would be more useful to get some recent real world load time benchmarks to convince the masses (and perhaps removal of the feature in CC) if indeed libstub solves all those probs...
13:02.25sylvanaarit still gives better error reports
13:02.42Arrowmasterlibstub doesnt solve the problems, the problem was solved by better coding practices
13:02.51[Ammo]if a user even manages to produce a proper error report
13:03.04sylvanaarand prevents superaddons with 18 emedded libs running out of them
13:03.06[Ammo]and if they do it usually includes a debugstack
13:03.11[Ammo]which shows the proper culprit
13:03.14Drooliobut the question is, does disembed reduce loading time or not...
13:03.24[Ammo]Droolio: it does marginally
13:03.34[Ammo]and only upon first startup
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13:03.54sylvanaarthe problem is that for it to have real benifit you have to remove the optdeps as well
13:04.30[Ammo]how so?
13:04.31sylvanaarand have a smarter library loader
13:04.37Arrowmasterno
13:04.46Brunerswhy is disembedding bad ?
13:04.58pb_ee1because
13:05.09Arrowmasteryou have authors write better code and load the library when they need it, not a smart loader
13:05.35[Ammo]Arrowmaster: that's what I'm doing for BW3
13:05.50sylvanaarit doesnt matter because they are all optdeped
13:05.58sylvanaarso they are all force loade
13:06.06[Ammo]only load BigWigs3_Foreign (which is just a .toc for LibBabbles) when non-english locale
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13:06.23[Ammo]so running BW3 disembedded will incur extra mem usage for english users, zomg :p
13:06.28Arrowmasterbecause they are all needed on load by current designs
13:06.37sylvanaarno, they arent
13:06.43sylvanaarin many cases
13:06.57Arrowmasterthey are until you convince the authors to stop being lazy
13:07.37kagaro[Ammo]: When you drop bigwigs3 in switch to the project localization so you dont have the case of 34638746378 updates for locale shit and people breaking shit trying to add localizations
13:07.40Arrowmasteragain the proper solution isnt to help the lazy people by making something to do stuff for them
13:07.49[Ammo]kagaro: fuck the localization project app
13:07.53[Ammo]it's a piece of shit
13:08.02[Ammo]</personal opinion>
13:08.05Arrowmasterwhats wrong with it?
13:08.11[Ammo]I hate it
13:08.17[Ammo]and will never use it
13:08.20Brunersi like it
13:08.32sylvanaarwith the optdeps there in other addons, its pointless to implement dynamic loading. optdeps makes somethign do stuff for them btw
13:08.35Pneumatusmy major bugbear is that you have to manually check the activity log to see if any changes have been made
13:08.46Pneumatuswtb subscription emails to localization updates
13:09.12ArrowmasterPneumatus: in the immortal words of ckknight "make a ticket"
13:09.16kagarobetter than people blinding updating every 1/2 hr seeing revchanges that are some minro locale update for a lang they dont use
13:09.29[Ammo]shrug
13:09.30Pneumatusim saving it for when they re-write the subscription system, Arrowmaster
13:09.37Pneumatusalthough there is probably a ticket up already
13:09.42[Ammo]I will never use the locale app
13:09.43Arrowmastercheck
13:10.03[Ammo]but there is another solution that I fixed in BW3 :p
13:10.15[Ammo]it uses approximately 95% less localization
13:10.25Pneumatusmake everyone learn english?
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13:10.29[Ammo]no
13:10.31kadrahil^
13:10.31sylvanaaricons
13:10.42[Ammo]use more generic stuff
13:10.52Arrowmasterso when the hell are you going to make the repo availabe
13:10.53[Ammo]no need for a gazillion translations of: Spell: TargetPlayer
13:11.01Pneumatushttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/615-translation-locale-system-mail-notification/
13:11.02[Ammo]when oRA3 is done and I polish some more
13:11.04[Ammo]on BW3
13:11.18[Ammo]then it has to pass Vhaarr inspection :)
13:11.31[Ammo]but it has a sweeeeeet TheDeadmines demo module :p
13:11.43Kuja^wheee!
13:11.45[Ammo]because Rahkzor slam is important you know
13:11.52[Ammo]and requires flashing and icons and everything
13:11.56Arrowmasterive been offering to help on it for i dont know how long but now im not offering as much since i dont raid anymore
13:12.07[Ammo]no real help needed
13:12.20[Ammo]I can convert the BW2 modules easily
13:12.32[Ammo]and compact them a shitton
13:12.33Arrowmasterby help i mean input of if i think your doing it right
13:12.37[Ammo]ah ok
13:12.46[Ammo]I'll let that part be done in the alphas stage
13:12.53kadrahilNeoTron: 25 man thorim hardmode down :)
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13:13.03[Ammo]I first need to get the whole deal working properly
13:13.09Pneumatuskadrahil: bugged lightning? :P
13:13.25kadrahilPneumatus: we had a few mishaps where both tanks got gibbed
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13:13.45kadrahilPneumatus: and i hate how he can still cast chain lightning while charging an orb as people are moving away from it
13:13.52Pneumatuslightning charges we'rent hitting anyone in our raid last night
13:13.59Pneumatus(from charging an orb)
13:14.03kadrahilPneumatus: oh, they were definitely hitting ours
13:14.10sylvanaarthey are so easy to avoid
13:14.15kadrahilyeah]
13:14.18kadrahil-]
13:14.21Pneumatusproblem is if the raid is melee heavy
13:14.22kadrahilpeople were just being dumb
13:14.38kadrahilwe had enough melee to make it so we stood in groups of 3
13:14.39sylvanaaryeah, we are always melee heavy
13:14.41Pneumatusrotating the boss = melee too close to each other = chanlightning starts instagibbing melee
13:14.42kadrahilaround the entire room
13:14.50kadrahilPneumatus: exactly what happened to us
13:14.59sylvanaarwe had chains through 14 people
13:15.00kadrahilexcept a couple of attempts it gibbed the tanks ~_~
13:15.10kadrahil14? ouch
13:15.12Pneumatusisnt it supposed to be capped to 10 now
13:15.13sylvanaar200k or so
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13:15.20Pneumatussure i read that somewhere
13:15.21sylvanaarit wasnt 2 weeks ago
13:15.24Pneumatusyeh
13:15.26sylvanaaridk about now
13:15.37sylvanaarit stopped hapening all of a sudden
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13:15.38Pneumatuswell, once it gets to like 20k jumps its bad enough :P
13:15.49kadrahili was tanking the champions in the arena
13:15.58kadrahilone attempt i put unholy presence back on to switch to dps in P2
13:16.01kadrahil(i'm frost)
13:16.04Pneumatusi see they made aura of celery raid-wide now at least
13:16.06kadrahiland we had an extra champion j ump down
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13:16.14kadrahilwent straight for a priest so i taunted it and he gibbed me :(
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13:16.39quiescensthat should teach you not to taunt!
13:16.49kadrahilespecially not in unholy presence!
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13:17.20kadrahilhe dropped warhelm of the champion, and i forgot what other non tier piece
13:17.31kadrahiland a vanq and conq helm i think?
13:17.45Trellim a total noob at scripting, but would this work:  self:SetWidth(GridLayoutHeader1:GetWidth()+20)
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13:17.53Trellor something similar, to add 20 to the width
13:17.54kadrahilsilly unholy dk got the warhelm >:(
13:19.26kadrahilwow that kill puts us in the top 300 world
13:19.47kadrahilwith the world 311th kill of thorim hard
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13:24.24EvilJohn-"Your subscription to Curse Premium Yearlyhas been cancelled by Curse Sarl.
13:24.24EvilJohn-"
13:24.28EvilJohn-does anyone know what that means
13:32.26sylvanaarwhat is your native language
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15:09.29p4aveddoes bigwigs f'n's for everything now?
15:10.14Stanzillano.
15:12.10p4avedseems like it does for alot more things now thats all
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15:24.42RepoNew announcement: http://beta.wowace.com/announcements/premium-subscriptions-temporarily-disabled/
15:27.26Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r5673 Ulduar/Thorim.lua: fix Thorim's deDE phase 2 trigger
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15:30.01Repockknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), Shefki (Author), vangual (Author), Stanzilla (Ticket Manager). Updated: 8 hours ago. Tickets: 114/397
15:30.04ckknightsuccess!
15:30.07Stanzillawut
15:30.08ckknightwww links instead of beta
15:30.08Stanzillaoh
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16:00.46Gnarfozwho broke ihml
16:00.47Gnarfoz:\
16:01.04Stanzillaackis as always
16:04.49Repo10bigwigs-yogg-brain: 03Ackis 07master * v1.0Beta-2-g20f3fa7 BigWigs_Yogg_Brain.lua: [+1 commit] Add deDE
16:05.05sb|work@describe bigwigs-yogg-brain
16:05.06Reposb|work: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bigwigs-yogg-brain/. BigWigs Yogg Brain. What it does Displays the health of Yogg-Saron's brain during Phase 2 for all raid members. Where to get it WoW Ace - Often Beta quality Curse - Most updated stable version How to get it to work You...
16:05.26sb|workmhh brains
16:05.37AckisWorkit's not broke! it's in development!
16:06.17sb|workdo another one for mimiron :p
16:06.25Repo10pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r76 PassLoot.toc: Repackage with updated libraries.
16:06.34AckisWorksb|work: I will once I see if this one works
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16:06.44AckisWorkaka next week
16:08.50AckisWorkodd git pull isn't working for me
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16:14.33GrumAckis: nothing to pull from? :D
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16:46.43hastewasn't there an add-on which skinned the default blizzard buffs with button fascade?
16:47.13Stanzillahaste: http://www.wowace.com/projects/blizz_buttonfacade
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16:58.38Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn * r202 Data.lua: cleanup and deduplicate spell data
16:58.48vhaarrwhat's the difference between that and facadebuffs?
16:58.51Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn 043.1.1.7-release * r203 : Tagging as 3.1.1.7-release
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16:58.54Repovhaarr: No project found that matches 'facadebuffs'
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16:59.44Repo10gathermate: 03kagaro * r670 GatherMate.toc:
16:59.47RepoGatherMAte: reverting toc change. OptDep of Ace3 properly handles libstub loading since Ace3 depend on it.
17:06.15ckknighthey all, is http://beta.wowace.com/contests/2-alphabet-mathematics/ visible?
17:06.34Stanzillavhaarr: facadebuffs makes the buffframe movable
17:06.39Stanzillaonly difference tho :P
17:06.42StanzillaI think
17:06.56dieckhi. is there already a Fubar plugin for the blizzard equiment manager, like OutfitterFu was?
17:07.17vhaarrclosetgnome is
17:07.21Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-12-g88d3ffc / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Update the main page, rename the spec macros to be default1/default2, add a default macro which is empty by default, and remove debug code.  Someone test out if spec default swapping works pls.
17:07.55dieckvhaarr: closetgnome is now a mere fubar icon for the blizzard equiment manager?
17:08.01dieckvhaarr: wouldn't believe so :)
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17:09.10durcynwell, LDB specifically
17:09.16durcynbut yes, it uses EM as the backend now
17:11.33StanzillaIn the next major content patch we will be removing the prismatic quality of the jewelcrafter-only Dragon’s Eye gems. Like other gems, they will have to match the socket color to receive a socket bonus.
17:11.35Stanzillapwnd. hard.
17:11.41dieckI found "Broker Equipment" for LDB, but afaik LDB is not Fu? And right now I have nearly everything I need in Fu, so I don't want to install a second info bar
17:12.31durcyndieck: there's a proxy that'll dump LDB plugins on your fubar, go look for Broker2Fubar
17:12.46durcynhonestly, anyone supporting fubar on new projects these days is probably smoking something
17:12.47dieckStanzilla: uh. I hoped we'll get the socketed gems rewarded, as I would have to resocket about 9 stones
17:13.02dieckdurcyn: ah, I'll have a look, thanks
17:14.22pentium166dieck: i think you're in for disappointment then
17:15.55durcyni like how their idea of balancing tradeskills is to bring jewelcrafting down instead of fixing the rest, way to go
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17:16.09dieckpentium166: why that?
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17:17.04pentium166if you expect a gem refund
17:17.15pentium166i doubt they're going to give one
17:18.39dieckpentium166: ah, i thought you meant Broker2Fubar :)
17:19.06pentium166oh, you'll be disappointed there, too
17:19.10pentium166when it eats your dog
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17:34.54Gnarfoz@project raid-cooldowns
17:34.55RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/raid-cooldowns/. RaidCooldowns. Game: WoW. tsigo (Manager/Author). Updated: 8 minutes ago. Tickets: 4/10
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17:36.30ulichehe, whoops
17:37.47AckisWorkping Primer
17:41.12Primersup
17:41.33PrimerI see it
17:41.35Primerupdating now
17:41.50AckisWorkkk ty
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17:49.18NivFreakIn the next major content patch we will be removing the prismatic quality of the jewelcrafter-only Dragon’s Eye gems. Like other gems, they will have to match the socket color to receive a socket bonus. When this change occurs, players with qualifying jewelcrafting skill will be provided a yet to be determined amount of Dalaran Jewelecrafter Tokens as compensation.
17:49.23NivFreakWTF
17:49.32kagarothat blows
17:49.36NivFreakno fucking shit
17:49.49kagaroi use 3 dragon's eye to active my stuff
17:49.58NivFreakI mean wtf
17:50.03NivFreakthat was sort of the core of why JC was useful
17:50.08NivFreaknow I'll never have a socket bonus...
17:50.16rubiksomeone QQed that JC was OP because of those gems or something? shrug
17:50.45kagarojust use them in bonus sockets
17:50.48kagarojc + bs
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17:52.08NivFreakkagaro: it doesn't matter where you use them now
17:58.35NivFreakgod damn, I'm so angry
18:00.32waallenIs there any plugin for Grid that allows you to display more than one icon at the same time?
18:01.38NivFreakmore than one icon?
18:01.51NivFreaklike debuffs?
18:02.02Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1883 / (2 files in 2 directories): Local libstub to improve speeeeeed.
18:02.13waallenNivFreak: yes
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18:39.41PneumatusGagorian: aware of an error in the current drd?
18:39.54Pneumatus[2009/05/22 19:31:43-3204-x11]: DrDamage-1.6.4\Caster.lua:1493: Usage: UnitIsUnit("unit", "otherUnit")
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18:58.40AckisWorkaight why isn't my luadoc stuff working with tables/file descriptors? :(
18:58.58AckisWorkis it not supported?
19:01.48durcynyou're not supported.
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19:02.29nevcairielyou probably do it wrong
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19:06.53Fisker-slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout
19:07.34AckisWorkhttp://mibbit.com/pb/BQ3JZG
19:12.38Drooliohow does the packager decide what libs to strip from the no-lib package?
19:13.01Xinhuanit doesn't
19:13.09Xinhuanit only decides what libs to include in the lib one
19:14.10Droolioheh, i thought i understood this stuff, my brain is a bit fried atm
19:14.39Drooliojust trying to decide if LibStub and CBH should be in the @no-lib-strip@ section...
19:14.40ArrowmasterClassany lib located on wowace/curseforge gets striped
19:14.48ArrowmasterClassthey should
19:15.38Droolioah, that makes sense. coz i'm using Astrolabe as well and that seems to be a special case since there's defo no standalone version of that
19:16.02ArrowmasterClassno
19:16.12ArrowmasterClassastrolabe is not located on wowace/curseforge
19:16.24Droolioindeed
19:16.49ArrowmasterClassso its always included
19:17.02Drooliook so to recap - libstub and cbh not in optdep/x-embeds but ok in @no-lib-strip@
19:17.16ArrowmasterClassright
19:17.49Repo10crybaby: 03durcyn * r33 / (2 files in 1 directory): make class colors actually work
19:21.25durcynlibstub and cbh are included in ace3 for the purposes of optdep
19:21.47durcynand x-embeds is fully deprecated, it was only ever used by wau for standalone installs, unless CC picked it up since?
19:22.04Droolioaye
19:22.40Drooliowell, as i said before, x-embeds is handy for the likes of acp to enable relevant libs
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19:23.08durcynacp should be reading OptionalDeps, imo
19:23.20Droolioit can't, optdep isn't readable
19:23.20AckisWorkit can't
19:23.32durcynis that not exposed to GetAddOnMetadata?  lame.
19:23.40Droolioand probably not desirable as i now realise
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19:28.04thulhmm, any good site for pvp tactics? :-P
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19:32.18durcynstart with arenajunkies?
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19:33.05mibbCan anyone explain to me what bit.band(x,y) does? I've read the Lua documentation and am still not entirely sure
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19:34.26Shefkimibb: binary and
19:34.42durcynbitwise and (or or, or xor, etc)
19:34.53Droolioand's the bits of x and y together
19:35.58Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-17-ge94df13 IHML.lua: [+1 commit] Fix the table luadoc.
19:37.35durcynthe only place i've seen bit fields used so far is COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED yet, though
19:37.48durcynhttp://www.wowwiki.com/UnitFlag
19:38.07Shefkidurcyn: GetItemFamily()
19:38.07mibbthanks
19:38.46durcynah, good old patch 2.4
19:39.32mibbso...  bit.band(101,010) = 0?
19:39.54durcynlua> bit.band(1,F)
19:39.55lua_botdurcyn: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'bit' (a nil value)
19:39.59durcynblah.
19:40.22Xinhuan...
19:40.35XinhuanIn the next major content patch we will be removing the prismatic quality of the jewelcrafter-only Dragon’s Eye gems. Like other gems, they will have to match the socket color to receive a socket bonus.
19:40.40XinhuanWhen this change occurs, players with qualifying jewelcrafting skill will be provided a yet to be determined amount of Dalaran Jewelecrafter Tokens as compensation.
19:40.41Stanzillaold!
19:40.45Xinhuanzzzzzzzz
19:40.46durcynXinhuan: hours behind
19:41.12durcynmibb: 1 if the number matches the field, otherwise 0
19:41.44durcynor if the two fields match
19:42.22durcynassuming the number is 1, in that example, since on further experimentation it returns the union of the two arguments
19:42.58durcynlua-wow should include bitlib if you want to fiddle with it
19:44.04NeoTronXinhuan: I wouldn't mind that so much if: 1) there was even a single physical dps gem that was had blue stats - I have 30k health and don't need more stamina, 2) dk t8 didn't have fricking almost exclusively blue gem slots, 3) how about meta gem requirements that don't need all blue?
19:44.26Xinhuanshifting
19:44.45NeoTronat least some casters can use spell dmg/spirit now
19:45.18NivFreakI'm so fucking pissed about the JC nerf
19:45.25NeoTronah well, plenty of time to level blacksmithing unless they add additional reasons to use JC
19:45.31NivFreakthey need to not wait 6 fucking months to nerf shit if they are going to
19:45.52NeoTronthey need to l2make items
19:45.57NivFreakI'm sorry, 7 months
19:46.05NeoTronI mean rogue t8 has all red gem slots. dk t8 has all but one blue? seriously?
19:46.20mibbthanks, durcyn
19:46.22mibb:)
19:46.22NeoTronand ofc the flipside - tank pally t8 has 1 blue slot..
19:46.42NightHawkTheSan1I think they should just nerf the shit out of everyone to piss people off.
19:46.51NeoTronNightHawkTheSan1: they are, didn't you notice?
19:46.55NivFreakthey should just fucking remove socket bonuses
19:46.59NivFreakperiod
19:47.22NightHawkTheSan1ooh, maybe they should listen to every crazy idea someone comes up with for the game too!
19:47.47NivFreakwhy are you talking?
19:48.04NightHawkTheSan1why are you? we're saying about the same thing :P
19:48.19NivFreak:P
19:48.37NivFreakI'm just pissed, I dropped about 8K to level JCing after finally thinking they'd leave it be
19:48.43NivFreakI mean wtf, 7 months...
19:48.53NivFreakthis right after nerfing leatherworking into the ground
19:48.59NightHawkTheSan18k? o_0
19:48.59NivFreakthey really do fail at math...
19:49.05NeoTron"We canÂ’t be in a situation where armor pen is junk for Unholy DKs (because they do so much spell damage) because then we are making Unholy DK tier sets. From an item design point of view, yuck."
19:49.05NightHawkTheSan1it barely cost me 1k to level it
19:49.12NeoTronthen why the fuck are they in that situation?
19:49.17NivFreakNightHawkTheSan1: I did it in january iirc
19:49.56NivFreakI expected to keep it until t9, when I expect epic gems to hit
19:49.58NightHawkTheSan1im not really sure what the difference would be, at least on my server most of the mats have been fairly stable since then
19:50.03NeoTronit cost me about 3.5k, after leveling inscription for about the same (and then being forced to go tank vs dps and inscription sucked for tanking)
19:50.18NeoTronabout 3k of that was 1-300
19:50.19BelazorWasn't there a site that tracks people who do paid char rename, realm transfers and such?
19:50.24NivFreakmost of my cost was 225-300
19:50.34NeoTronprobably 80% being in that range
19:50.44NivFreakBelazor: wowprogress was doing it, but it looks like they stopped
19:51.00Belazorhrm okay, maybe they still have the info I need. Thanks
19:51.06NivFreakI'm really tempted to drop JCing and level mining
19:51.23NivFreakthe benefit would be the same, and I haven't had a gathering profession on my main in years
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19:52.55NightHawkTheSan1so do it? *shrug*
19:53.11MokhtarIs there a place I can get the path to wow icons and textures without resorting to digging through mpqs ?
19:53.13NivFreakso when epic gems come out, JCing will net me 33 stamina...
19:53.35NightHawkTheSan1JC is still comparable to any other profession even without the prismatic quality
19:53.46NivFreaknot when epic gems come out
19:53.54NivFreakwhich should be the next tier
19:54.01Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-18-ge50417f IHML.lua: [+1 commit] Fix the table luadoc.
19:54.04NivFreakit will then grant you 33stam, where everything else grants 50
19:54.07NightHawkTheSan1but they're not out YET. and that's assuming they don't provide an equally upgraded JC only gem
19:54.22NivFreakthey won't
19:54.29NightHawkTheSan1you can't know that.
19:54.40NivFreakthey didn't before
19:54.48NivFreakthey'll probably release epic trinkets
19:54.52NightHawkTheSan1because they NEVER do things differently
19:54.55NivFreakblizzard likes its patterns
19:55.05NivFreakit's abnormal for them to change
19:55.13NightHawkTheSan1not really
19:55.17Stanzillathorim hardmoe down *dance*
19:55.24NivFreak3.2 announced
19:55.50Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r36 modules/Player.lua: tweak Options table a bit
19:57.02Stanzillasvn ups
19:58.03durcynStanzilla: careful!
19:58.18Stanzilladurcyn: the only char running it is my bank alt, no harm!
19:59.02NivFreakThe upcoming major content patch, Call of the Crusade, will bring a host of new features for World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King.
19:59.05NivFreak* The Argent Tournament Expands: With the help of Azeroth's heroes, the Argent Crusade will finish the Argent Coliseum just in time to call for all brave citizens to prepare for battle with the Lich King. New dailies, rewards, and more will be available at the Argent Tournament grounds to lure adventurers into the coliseum.
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19:59.24NivFreakI guess I have to start doing the argent tourney crap
19:59.42rubikeh.. i never bothered.. haven't done one quest yet.. is it fun/worth it for any reason?
20:00.16NivFreakI did not find it fun
20:00.21NeoTronsounds rather uninterestin
20:00.25NivFreakso
20:00.26NeoTronpvp and some other crap
20:00.28NivFreakreading between the lines
20:00.31NeoTronsingle boss dungeon maybe
20:00.34NeoTronmaybe with a random boss
20:00.34Pneu^^they should make the instance only available to exalted champions of the argent crusade
20:00.36NivFreakcrusader's colisum must be a new raid?
20:00.52NeoTronit'll be an arena pve setup
20:00.52NivFreakbecause if they are launching t7 and giving it an ilvl bump, that'd put pvp ahead of pve in gearing
20:00.59NivFreak25man arena pvp?
20:01.03NeoTronno
20:01.03NeoTronpve
20:01.09NeoTronplayer versus mob in an arena
20:01.09Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-19-g81c6028 IHML.lua: [+1 commit] Add a description to the start if IHML.lua for luadoc to use.
20:01.12NivFreakoh, more vehicle fights
20:01.13NivFreakhoray
20:01.19nevcairieli think NeoTron is just speculating =p
20:01.22NeoTrondidn't say that although I suppose it's possible
20:01.23NightHawkTheSan1^^
20:01.30NeoTronnevcairiel: I am but they said it's not pvp
20:01.42NeoTronand that it's an instance
20:01.47NeoTronso it's pve
20:01.53NightHawkTheSan1i think the guess of DM-Arena style instanced group pve would be a good bet
20:01.53NeoTronbut it's clearly not a full raid
20:02.00NeoTronit's an arena, it cant' be big
20:02.09NivFreakit could be multi level
20:02.23Repo10fubar_topscorefu: 03phyber 07master * v1.0.5-3-g3fdb822 TopScoreFu.lua: [+2 commits]
20:02.26Repo3fdb822: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/fubar_topscorefu/mainline
20:02.28NeoTronthink back to the old days of Stranglethorn Vale
20:02.30Repobb6879c: Add a few WotLK vulnerable mobs.
20:02.33NeoTronthe arena that never was
20:02.34Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r213 / (2 files in 2 directories): Damage mode: ignore friendly fire.
20:02.41NeoTronthey had once a screenshot of a group of players killing a beast there
20:02.51NightHawkTheSan1NeoTron: how about the dire maul arena? :P
20:02.51NeoTronthis is, finally, what that was intended to be
20:02.59NeoTronyeah
20:03.09NeoTronlike that but instanced and larger is a good bet
20:03.12NeoTronand I bet on horse back :P
20:03.35NightHawkTheSan1.. that would actually be damn aewsome
20:03.40NightHawkTheSan1awesome*
20:03.41NeoTronsome sort of random encounter or progression based (i.e bet subsequently harder encounters)
20:03.50NeoTrons/would/could/ ;-)
20:04.16NeoTronperhaps like the Nagrand/Zul'drak arenas but not trivial
20:04.20NightHawkTheSan1*shrug* semantics. ;)
20:05.22nevcairielNeoTron: just because its name colosseum doesnt mean its not a full raid, we'll see =)
20:05.28PrimerI'm trying to figure out the best way to determine if someone has been moved in a raid group and obtain their new raid index
20:05.54durcynnevcairiel: they said 25-man colliseum, if this is the only thing between ulduar and icecrown, i'm not impressed
20:05.57PrimerIs the only way to store their name and loop through the raid members on that one event
20:06.01Primerstarts with an R
20:06.05Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-20-gd4b813a IHML.lua: [+1 commit] Add more default macros.
20:06.11durcynPrimer: RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE?
20:06.16Primerthat's the one!
20:06.23durcynand what's their unitid matter?
20:06.33PrimerAckis: BTW, does that add the m_handykey{1,2} ?
20:06.52Primeroh, I could store their GUID!
20:06.56Primerforgot about that
20:07.59Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-21-g7939ae5 IHML.lua: [+1 commit] Format macros properly.
20:08.28AckisWorkPrimer: I changed it to default1 and default2 and they both are added along with default
20:08.45AckisWorkhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/ihml/pages/api/
20:08.50AckisWorkthat looks purty eh?
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20:15.07AckisWorknevcairiel: with the luadoc, I'm defining a parameter like: -- @param silent Boolean to determine if we output a message to chat when the macro is swapped.
20:15.08PrimerAckisWork: nice :)
20:15.19AckisWorkis there a way to get it to specify acceptible values/
20:15.28Primerso, after all that fucking around with code to figure out the bearing of a player vs. another:
20:15.50Primerfunction GetBearing (px, py, tx, ty) return -GetPlayerFacing() - math_atan2 (tx - px, py - ty) end
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20:20.21AckisWorkfuck
20:20.25AckisWorkPrimer: ^
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20:20.30AckisWork:P
20:21.22Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r37 modules (3 files in 1 directory): port over the Target module, among other things
20:22.33Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-22-gd95b290 IHML.lua: [+1 commit] More doc updates.
20:23.53durcynhave i ever mentioned how much i hate migrating options tables from ace2 to ace3
20:23.56durcynbecause i hate it
20:24.07StanzillaI think you did
20:25.35GagorianOooh never switching to ace3 then
20:25.41GagorianMassive options tables :C
20:26.04durcynbetween that and the subtle differences in the module code, it's obnoxious
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20:27.51PrimerAckisWork: well, that error is not there any more :)
20:28.22PrimerI have some strange issue where the changes I make at home don't take here at work, despite using rysnc on AddOns and WTF
20:28.23Repo10fubar_gearfu: 03Illiai * r8 GearFu.lua: fixed event handling
20:28.35durcynnot to mention nymbia's affinity for globals instead of GetModule :(
20:28.51durcynanyway, enough complaining
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20:30.35Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-23-gb562db5 IHML.lua: [+1 commit] Add all default macros to luadoc.
20:31.12durcynGagorian: i'm sure you could convince some kind soul to branch drdamage and move stuff over, maybe Stanzilla would volunteer
20:31.45Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-24-g4b4170b IHML.lua: [+1 commit] Apparently I forgot a couple tags.
20:31.45Stanzillanooo :(
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20:32.28Gagorian:D
20:32.53GagorianWell, the biggest issue actually is finding a replacement for the dewdrop style configs.. It's pretty convenient for the fast small changes
20:33.15GagorianAlthough I'm not sure if any of the users actually use that
20:33.28durcynAceConfigDropdown-3.0 is still on kaelten's bathroom floor somewhere
20:33.43Stanzillamore like nev's
20:33.50nevcairielantiarcs i say
20:34.16durcyni wonder if qtipclick could be bastardized for it, does it do submenus?
20:34.17ckknightNargiddly
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20:35.27GagorianWell, someone already said I should look at QTipClick.. but well, it won't be nearly as easy as just loading my config table like I do now
20:35.52Gagorianand I really got a lot of other stuff to do than mess around with options tables.. it's one of the most boring parts
20:35.57durcynwell, that, and Torhal's some kind of longhair
20:36.12AckisWorkARL uses libQTipClick for a sub-menu type system of sorts
20:36.13durcynTorhal: eh, eh!
20:36.28GagorianIt's probably the localization that busted my balls when I initially did the options tables
20:36.32GagorianThat was just painful
20:41.06Repo10fubar_gearfu: 03Illiai * r9 GearFu.lua: fixed event handling around new sets
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20:46.59ckknightGagorian: once you get used to localization, it's not too bad
20:47.24NeoTronman hard mode mimiron looks insane
20:47.45Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-25-ge6f496b / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Update macro page and change it to creole.
20:49.06PrimerAckis, should I be seeing default1/2 now?
20:49.24PrimerI mean, is it automagic, or must I do something first?
20:50.01Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-26-gbb92883 Docs/DefaultMacros.txt: [+1 commit] Fix formatting
20:50.11AckisWorkPrimer: you should be seeing it, if you aren't then it's still bugged
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20:50.47durcynnevcairiel: it's fucking nuts
20:50.51durcyner NeoTron ^
20:50.56PrimerI'm on g4b4170b
20:50.59durcynget new phoneme prefixes please.
20:51.24AckisWorkPrimer: yah most of my updates today have just been autodocs
20:52.36AckisWorkPrimer: there's one concept I'm not understanding in snago's code so I need to go through it again and again I guess to get this thing solved
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20:54.04NeoTronjust watched the ensidia kill video
20:54.14Primerwell, right now I still have m_handykey1/2
20:54.17Primerand default
20:54.24NeoTronso is the only remaining unkilled encounter 25 man algalon now?
20:54.27AckisWorkyah you manually created handykey right?
20:54.31Primeryeah
20:54.39AckisWorkaye it won't nuke them
20:54.45Primershould I "re-insert default macros"?
20:54.53AckisWorkyah try that actually
20:55.00Primerthis is my work box, which I rsync from home, so nothing will be lost
20:55.05PrimerI can just rysnc again
20:55.05AckisWorkkk
20:55.48Primerdoesn't do shit
20:56.01Primerdeleted m_handy1/2 and re-insert...nothing
20:56.19AckisWorkthat didn't get rid of m_handy1/2?
20:56.38Primerwell, I manually deleted them
20:56.56Primerok, let's get this straight. There should be default1 and default2 in the drop down?
20:57.04Primeror does "default" change on spec change?
20:57.04AckisWorkno
20:57.20PrimerI'll change it and change specs
20:57.27AckisWorkthere shouldn't be default, default1, default2 correct?
20:57.55Repo10misspelled: 03nrpieper * r25 WordDict.lua: Edit distance, substitution cost is now case insensitive.
20:58.24PrimerAckisWork: ideally one should never see default1 and default2, just default...IMO
20:58.38Primerso yeah, "default" should change when you change spec and you have the option enabled
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20:58.46AckisWorkthat's what I want, but step 1 is to get it working ;)
20:58.58AckisWorkmanually create a default1 and default2
21:02.05Primeryou're telling me to do that?
21:02.47AckisWorkyes please :)
21:04.18Primerdone
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21:04.43Repo10incubator: 03durcyn 06rewrite * r193 / (4 files in 1 directory): flesh out the event handlers a bit
21:04.52Primerso now, change spec?
21:04.56AckisWorkaye
21:08.32Repo10broker_blizzequipmentset: 03Mokhtar * r6 / (5 files in 1 directory): Broker_BlizzEquipmentSet :
21:08.35Repo- Should be usable now
21:11.02Primerchanging spec does nothing
21:11.43AckisWorkle sigh
21:11.44AckisWorkok
21:12.02nicoli_sdont you use that frenchie talk here
21:12.16Repo10broker_blizzequipmentset: 03Mokhtar * r7 .pkgmeta: Broker_BlizzEquipmentSet :
21:12.19Repo- corrected uppercase mistake in pkgmeta
21:12.48AckisWorkdon't let Hubert hear you say that :P
21:12.55MokhtarFrance is teh merde :p
21:14.02Primeroui
21:16.39Repo10broker_blizzequipmentset: 03Mokhtar * r8 .pkgmeta: Broker_BlizzEquipmentSet :
21:16.42Repo- Once again with pkgmeta sprinkled on top
21:17.36durcynvas te faire foutre, AckisWork
21:18.26Repo10fubar_gearfu: 03Illiai * r10 / (2 files in 1 directory): added config option to show set name in title
21:18.30Repoadded config option to show set icon in title (doesn't quite work yet though)
21:18.59Repo10fubar_gearfu: 03Illiai * r11 GearFu.lua: added config option to show set name in title
21:19.02Repoadded config option to show set icon in title (doesn't quite work yet though)
21:19.06Repo10squire: 03Adirelle * r79 Mounts.lua: Added 3.1.2 mounts.
21:19.22MokhtarThe packager hates me :x
21:19.42Repo10squire: 03Adirelle 04v1.3 * r80 : Tagging as v1.3
21:20.52AckisWork<PROTECTED>
21:21.27PrimerI think he wrote: Go fuck yourself, AckisWork
21:21.58AckisWorkoui
21:22.09Repo10crybaby: 03durcyn * r37 Crybaby.lua: fix options table nonsense
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21:24.06Repo10crybaby: 03durcyn * r38 Crybaby.lua: and the spell toggle options, blah.
21:25.40Repo10crybaby: 03durcyn * r39 Crybaby.lua: SetSinkStorage, also.
21:28.30Repo10broker_blizzequipmentset: 03Mokhtar 04v1.0 * r9 : Tagging as v1.0
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21:30.34Fisker-i want to DESTROY YOU
21:30.50ckknightgz, Fisker-
21:30.57SqueeGI~I wanna destroooooy you!
21:31.55SqueeGand when i have destroyed you
21:31.55SqueeGi'll come picking at your bones
21:31.55SqueeGyou won't have a single atom left
21:31.56SqueeGto call your own
21:31.58SqueeGman
21:32.06SqueeGI haven't heard that song in ages :p
21:32.07MegalonFisker-: how's your merged battle.net account?
21:33.53Fisker-wtf @ JC nerf
21:33.59Fisker-way to completely miss the point
21:34.20SqueeGwhat'd they do now?
21:34.44Fisker-gems will no longer be prismatic
21:34.53NivFreakFisker-: I'm losing my free 3rd profession, it makes me sad =/
21:35.10Fisker-wut NivFreak ? :3
21:35.37NivFreakI get 105stam out of JCing atm
21:35.42NivFreakI will get 51stam after the nerf
21:35.47NivFreaknext best profession is 50stam
21:36.05NivFreakit was like a free 3rd profession
21:36.06SqueeG3rd profession?
21:36.12SqueeGheh
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21:37.09Fisker-you goto 54 stam in set bonuses?
21:37.14Fisker-got*
21:37.59Fisker-Whats up with no raid instance in 3.2 as well? :3
21:38.20sb|workwhats up with battle.net 3 days ago?
21:38.46nicoli_sfisker, i thought they said thered be a raid
21:39.16nicoli_s<PROTECTED>
21:39.16nicoli_s<PROTECTED>
21:39.16nicoli_sYes, there will be a 5-player version, then a 10/25-player version. The bosses will be different for the two versions. Think Ring of Blood or Amphitheater of Anguish, but more epic.
21:39.26NivFreak12stam on head, 9stam from belt, 9stam, and 24stam that I don't have to lose to activate my meta
21:39.40NivFreaker, that second 9 stam was to legs
21:39.54NivFreak30stam in socket bonuses, 24stam from not having to worry about meta requirements
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21:40.59NivFreakbest case, I could make back 21 of that, so it'd still be a 33stam gain
21:41.14Fisker-nicoli_s by that count they might as well call a new wing in VoA for a completely new raid instance
21:41.25Fisker-also
21:41.28Fisker-what about T9?
21:41.34NivFreakt9 is icecrown
21:41.35NivFreakin 3.3
21:41.44Fisker-Then they won't follow the arena season
21:41.46NivFreakthey laid out this roadmap 6 months ago
21:41.55Fisker-That was my point
21:41.58Fisker-A7 = T9
21:42.03NivFreakwell
21:42.09NivFreakthey could do a half tier bump
21:42.13NivFreakand patch t8 hard mode ilvls
21:42.16NivFreakmatch*
21:42.22Fisker-naw
21:42.23Fisker-new sets
21:42.25Fisker-or gtfo
21:42.29NivFreakI'm serious :P
21:42.32Fisker-unless arena is a similar bump
21:42.37NivFreakI bet that s7 will be ilvl 239 shit
21:42.51NivFreakto match ulduar hardmode ilvls
21:48.11Repo10fubar_gearfu: 03Illiai * r12 embeds.xml: fixed embeds
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21:53.42Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r214 changelog.txt: Updated changelog.
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21:55.10Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop 041.2-8 * r215 : Tagging as 1.2-8
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21:59.27ckknighthttp://beta.wowace.com/contests/
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22:11.15*** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com | http://lua.org | Curse Client: http://www.curse.com/client | Contests for BlizzCon tickets: http://beta.wowace.com/contests/ | Want your Username changed? http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/
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22:13.13Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-27-g298bf34 IHML.lua: [+1 commit] Move code around so that it'll update when you are in combat.
22:20.30sylvaan[2009/05/22 18:02:47-9128-x1]: constant table overflow:
22:20.42sylvaanthe hell
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22:22.36sylvanaarwhat does that error even mean
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22:24.40SqueeGtoo much food!
22:24.43SqueeGit's a'fallin!
22:24.59sylvanaarit should say "settin sail for fail!"
22:25.04Repo10crybaby: 03durcyn * r40 Crybaby.lua: use {rtX} for Channel sinks
22:25.12sylvanaaroh nice
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22:31.55Repo10furious-raid: 03strangeteeth * r64 / (4 files in 1 directory):
22:31.58Repo- added an option to the set configuration to run through loot backwards. This is to allow one to run bids for tier tokens first, since tier tokens are the last pieces of loot in the loot window.
22:32.01Repo- updated the PDF file
22:32.14Repo10crybaby: 03durcyn * r41 Crybaby.lua: bugfix
22:32.52Repo10crybaby: 03durcyn * r42 Crybaby.lua: missed a spot, i feel like lordfarlander over here
22:33.27durcynblah.
22:35.16Repo10furious-raid: 03strangeteeth 04v3.1.6 * r65 :
22:35.19Repo- added an option in the set configuration to allow one to run loot backwards. This facilitates the looting of tier tokens first.
22:35.22Repo- updated the PDF file
22:42.16RepoNew announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/contests-for-blizz-con-tickets/
22:46.25Pneu^^hope those tickets werent scalped :<
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22:48.31TinyboomAckis: did you remove the debug printout from ihml now?
22:50.37Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r71 / (3 files in 2 directories):
22:50.40RepoUtopia: New option for what values to show for unavailable spells (max talented, or base value), and fixed some inconsistancies in this area also. Yes, there are still a couple of errors in the numbers to do with pet triggered buffs; Am working on those.
22:50.43Repo- Also a new option for excluded auras to turn a different colour. ie: 1 warrior casting commanding shout, the battle shout icon will go faded blue (assuming there's noone else who can buff this instead).
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22:52.08ckknightPneumatus: we got em for curse.com being a fansite.
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23:35.45PrimerAckis: BTW, targeting a player of the opposing faction doesn't switch the macro any more
23:47.55Primerbah, somehow I had toggled pvp off, my bad
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