IRC log for #wowace on 20090521

00:02.27Stew_ai think they're the actual internal coordinates for the zones as opposed to the 1-100 that you use for navigating
00:02.39Primerthey are
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00:02.58PrimerI'm just looking for a scale factor so I can calculate distance based on coordinates in any zone/bg/instance
00:03.20Primerand not even across zones
00:03.45Primerjust the distance between 2 points in the same zone/bg/instance
00:05.20Primerso, if I know the height and width of every zone/bg/instances, is "coordinate 100" whichever number is largest?
00:05.50Primersay width is 1000 but height is 800
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00:06.05Primertop left being 0,0, will bottom right be 100,80?
00:06.53Primerhrmm, with these numbers I still don't get yards
00:07.16reskerummm the scale factors are different for every zone
00:08.44Primerduh
00:08.52Primerwhy do you think I'm doing this? :)
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00:11.03ckknightif anyone hasn't submitted an entry, do so: http://beta.wowace.com/contests/1-test-contest/
00:11.06draculaphyber: is there any way to disable TopscoreFu's output to the sink?
00:11.06ckknightthe contest ends in 12 hours
00:11.14ckknightat which point the judging process will begin
00:12.11dracula"Hello World" ?
00:12.22NeoTronprint("Hello World")
00:12.32EndI like zorba's entry
00:12.33NeoTronlua> print("hello world") -- classic
00:12.34lua_botNeoTron: hello world
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00:12.37Endcrash_horribly()
00:12.52RaydenUnianyone know off the top of their head if it is faster to create and delete something like a std::vector on the stack inside of a function vs making it static in the function and clearing it each time?
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00:13.30NeoTronit's kind of sad that hello was nerfed "hello -m" was removed
00:14.11NeoTronRaydenUni: most likely it doesn't really matter
00:14.19RaydenUnioh
00:14.22RaydenUnithis isn't #c++ :P
00:14.29RaydenUniwas wonderign why i recognized your name
00:14.33NeoTronnot usually :P
00:14.41RaydenUnii'm poking through my engine trying to improve performance
00:15.05NeoTrondid you actually do profiling to find places where it might be slow or just "guessoptimizing"? :)
00:15.15RaydenUniwe can't get a profiler to run on these machines :(
00:15.20RaydenUnii did some of my own timing
00:15.27RaydenUnibut that only tells me if the place i poked is slow
00:15.31RaydenUnidoesn't tell me about other places
00:18.06Repo10swapmagic: 03Antiarc * r63 / (4 files in 2 directories):
00:18.09RepoFull rewrite. Modifies the Blizzard flyout to suck less. Emulates SwapMagic in all the ways that matter - menus don't close immediately when you release alt, can filter items by minimum quality, can queue items to be equipped if you attempt to swap them while in combat or dead, and shows quality per item with glowy borders on the flyout items.
00:20.15Brunersanyone logged on WC3 today?
00:21.59AntiarcMikk, NeoTron: ^----
00:22.24MikkAntiarc: seeeeeeeeeeeeeex
00:24.21Repo10libqtipclick-1-1: 03Torhal 07master * r3-1-g77a4286 LibQTipClick-1.1.lua: [+1 commit] Removed tooltip:SetCallback() wrapper in favor of defining it via CBH.
00:24.41durcynAntiarc: now make it not show rings and trinkets that are equipped in the other slot =P
00:24.56AntiarcOh, I should do that
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00:26.34XinhuanAntiarc, wouldn't using that be not compatible with blizzard's equipment manager
00:27.34Xinhuanwhen the blizzard equipment manager is open, the default UI's swapmagic has an extra "ignore this slot"
00:27.41Repo10libqtipclick-1-1: 03Torhal 04r4 * 9bd9d79 /: [new tag] Tagging as r4.
00:27.42Xinhuanto tell the manager to ignore that slot
00:27.58Xinhuanfor a set
00:28.13Antiarcnope, it'll work
00:28.26Xinhuanso you have that extra ignore slot too?
00:28.37AntiarcI just hook and improve the Blizzard stuff
00:28.41Xinhuanah
00:28.47Xinhuanso not a rewrite
00:28.55AntiarcSwapMagic is a full rewrite
00:29.00AntiarcIt's no longer the full implementation
00:29.04AntiarcI nuked it and started from scratch
00:29.18Xinhuanbut its not a blizzard rewrite, as in, a non-blizzard hooking one
00:29.22AntiarcRight
00:29.53Xinhuanso Titan's Grip is screwing with me in WoWEquip
00:30.01Xinhuanthe way i have setup filters...
00:30.40NeoTronAntiarc: I'll have it ready for testing tonight (auto-update, alpha :)
00:35.58Mikkso erm is grid's aggro indicator actually supposed to work?
00:36.03Mikkcause it does nothing for me :<
00:38.54Repo10tehtip: 03copystring * r6 / (3 files in 1 directory):
00:38.57Repo- fix the bugs regarding hiding health bars correctly, this is using AceHook-3.0 now
00:39.00Repo- updated .toc and added .pkgmeta
00:42.49Repo10swapmagic: 03Antiarc * r64 SwapMagic.lua: Don't show equipped items in the flyout.
00:53.45Repo10swapmagic: 03Antiarc * r65 SwapMagic.lua:
00:53.48RepoYou know, it helps if we call the click action for the special buttons in the flyout.
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01:15.01Repo10tehtip: 03copystring * r7 / (4 files in 1 directory):
01:15.04Repo- changed the folder name to !Tehtip, it will load earlier and let's me add moar lines before other AddOns do
01:16.44copystringum, the packager is broken? doesn't create zips for my repo
01:20.27Repo10yssdrop: 03yssaril 07master * v1.4.0-1-g40111af / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Switch to the officailly supported LibQTipClick-1.1
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01:26.42Repo10libqtipclick-1-1: 03Torhal 07master * r5 LibQTipClick-1.1.lua: [+1 commit] In lib:Release(): Nil out the functions CBH embedded in the tooltip.
01:26.47Repo10libqtipclick-1-1: 03Torhal 04r5 * a435580 /: [new tag] Tagging as r5
01:28.30Torhalcopystring: BTW, prepending with a "!" doesn't guarantee load order - only on some filesystems.
01:28.55copystringit doesn't? hmm
01:29.58copystringis there any other way of hooking in a function before any other addon does?
01:30.51TorhalNot that I'm aware of. First-come, first-serve on the hooks.
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01:32.53copystringI'll leave the "!" there anyways, better then nothing.
01:33.22Repo10ysstargets: 03yssaril 07master * 517762d / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] initial commit
01:41.49Repo10friendly-arrow: 03Barfolomeu * r18 / (5 files in 1 directory): Added mouseover keybind.
01:41.51RepoAdded slashcommand to easily toggle tracking.
01:41.54RepoAdded file with zone distance factors.
01:41.57RepoFixed embeds to include missing entries.
01:44.08SqueeGI think they could have modelled the draenei islands a lot better...
01:45.22Brunersless time spent on starting areas = more time spent on high level zones
01:46.15SqueeGThe Blood elf zone looks fucking awesome
01:46.27SqueeGThe draenei islands are fucking boring
01:46.29SqueeGand drab
01:46.50SqueeGyou don't notice quite as much when you're starting off and they have you flying and swimming all over
01:49.01TorhalSqueeG: The Blood Elf starting area looks so fucking awesome it takes my nVidia 9800GTX+ to about 20FPS, whereas the Draenei area gives me about 75FPS
01:49.29SqueeGIt's worth it though :p
01:49.29TorhalHehe
01:49.49SqueeGThen you have to go to ghostlands... -.-
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01:50.05SqueeGmy main's an undead dammit, i've had enough of the creeplands
01:50.09TorhalActually, Ghostlands is what I was referring to. Dogs the hell out of my card.
01:50.39SqueeGreally?
01:50.45SqueeGmust be all the fog :p
01:51.03TorhalTrees and such, methinks.
01:51.15TorhalI can go to 20fps in Sholazar
01:51.27waallenDoes anyone have autobar mousehover category bars disappear as soon as you move the cursor out of the main bar?
01:52.34SqueeGI'm accustom to playing with 18 fps :p
01:52.42SqueeGdoesn't bother me
01:52.50SqueeGin fact, it's smoother than my old avg of 10
02:02.22Repo10tehtip: 03copystring * r8 TehTip.lua:
02:02.25Repo- color race, create types and creature family yellow and not white, so the correct function on OnTooltipCleared
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02:12.01Repo10swapmagic: 03Antiarc * r66 SwapMagic.lua: Use the PLAYER_ALIVE event for executing queue flushes.
02:13.16TorhalAdirelle: ping
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02:30.25Xinhuanso who uses wowequip here
02:30.47Axodious<-
02:30.50Axodiousdoing hodir hard atm though
02:30.50Bruners@describe wowequip
02:30.51RepoBruners: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/wowequip/. WoWEquip.  WoWEquip is back for patch 3.1! Try on different gear and see their total stats and their differences. In short, an ingame CT-Profiles-like addon. Users of WoWEquip are encouraged to use the addon...
02:30.54GnarfozI used to
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02:31.25Xinhuani have a little problem
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02:32.15Xinhuanhttp://kinkou.net/xinftp/temp2.jpg
02:32.50Xinhuanthe menu might need a bit of rearrangement
02:32.54Xinhuanhow would you suggest
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02:34.19Axodiousbreak it down into types
02:34.35Axodioussec sorry lol
02:34.57Xinhuanif you checked ingame in your current copy, you'll see a MUCH shorter list
02:35.32Xinhuanlets just say, supporting Titan's Grip is a pain in the ass
02:36.03Axodiousbreak them down into another set of categories
02:36.10Axodiousmain hand off hand 2 hand
02:36.14Axodiousthen in there daggers etc etc
02:36.21Xinhuanso you're saying submenus?
02:36.23Axodiousyea
02:36.28Xinhuannavigating submenus is a PITA too
02:36.35Xinhuanas you have seen in the gem menus
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02:38.03StanzillaXinhuan: you are low on gold, what happened? :P
02:39.14XinhuanJC stopped being profitable
02:39.40Brunersreally stopped
02:40.02Brunersgems i sold for 120-150g now goes for 40-50
02:43.23SqueeGPeople regem pretty frequently now though
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02:45.26Gnarfozgems for 150g? wtf
02:45.26Gnarfozalso what are you spending it on, Xinhuan :D
02:45.47Xinhuani geared up my rogue in full BiS (before 3.1)
02:45.50Xinhuanwith gold
02:45.57BrunersBiS?
02:46.03Xinhuanbest-in-slot
02:46.15Xinhuanyou name it, i have it
02:46.15Brunershow do you do that with gold? :P
02:46.24Xinhuanpug runs, bid on items with gold
02:46.30Xinhuanhighest bidder wins
02:46.38Xinhuandistribute gold evenly at end of full naxx25
02:46.39Brunersaha
02:47.04Xinhuanyou earn between 1k-3k
02:48.32BrunersXinhuan: gotten the lost proto yet?
02:48.38Xinhuanno
02:48.53Xinhuanu have to be incredibly lucky for that
02:49.02Brunersi got it in november :D
02:49.31Brunersfound it on wowhead, logged in to check and there it was
02:50.41Xinhuanconsidering it spawns like once a week
02:50.46Xinhuanand is almost always camped
02:52.06Brunershttp://ui.ipwn.se/i/300.jpg
02:53.05Brunershttp://ui.ipwn.se/i/302.jpg
02:53.05Bruners:)
02:57.23Zyndromehttp://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/timelost.jpg , was on December 2nd ;o
03:00.33Repo10bayis-extended-questlog: 03Namdrof * r199 achievement.lua:
03:00.36RepoChanged QuestWatchFontTemplate to WatchFontTemplate in achievement.lua
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03:24.43Repo10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07master * Beta1.0-29-g8585334 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Improve the Equipment Frame filters for weapons (split Main/Off/One-hand types). Add additional weapon types to Main/Off-hand slots for Titan's Grip.
03:27.06TorhalWhat's a good way, in Lua, to compare floating-point numbers?
03:29.07Xinhuana == b
03:29.26Xinhuanor math.abs(a-b) < 0.001
03:29.31Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r156 / (5 files in 1 directory): SKG :
03:29.35Repo- first lqtc attempt. you're unimpressed.
03:29.43TorhalZhinjio: Heh
03:29.53TorhalXinhuan: I'll try the abs() route. Danke.
03:30.09Xinhuanwell you don't really have any other choice
03:30.27TorhalI know, which is why I was asking. Comparing directly isn't accurate at all.
03:30.27Xinhuan[11:29:58] [Robena] whispers: sorry disturb u so much. plz do not report me,www..newgoldminer...com. 1000G only cost 16 $, with 20% discount code 4BF85068 ,we can deliver in 10 minutes :) do u have a plan to need some ?
03:30.28XinhuanHAHAHA
03:30.30Xinhuaninstant report
03:30.33TorhalHahaha
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03:32.02Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown 04oops-alpha * r157 : Tagging as oops-alpha
03:32.13LukianClosetGnome isn't getting the icon for sets right
03:32.22Lukian(in the actual minimap button)
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03:38.44Repo10sifter: 03Starinnia * r4 Sifter.lua: break after 3 items instead of 4 (narrower tooltips)
03:42.46durcynLukian: on set change, or on login/reload
03:44.30Lukianlogin/reload I suppose
03:44.43Lukianon a reloadui, it has it's normal icon (that's ok)
03:44.43durcynyeah, that's to be expected, sets aren't stateful
03:44.53Lukianjust randomly it had my helm icon though
03:44.57Lukianand I don't use that for any set
03:45.06Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r158 / (2 files in 1 directory): SKG :
03:45.09Repo- fixed global, optdep for lqtc
03:45.57Repo10sifter: 03Starinnia 041.0.0 * r5 : Tagging as release 1.0.0
03:54.59Brunerstiger boss is hard :(
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04:06.14Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r169 / (5 files in 2 directories):
04:06.17RepoDramatically redesigned the options interface into several different pages, with preparations to add many more features.
04:09.01Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r159 / (2 files in 1 directory): SKG :
04:09.04Repo- brainfart corrections
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04:11.18Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.1.1.04-beta * r170 :
04:11.21RepoTagged release 3.1.1.04 beta version to demonstrate redesigned options interface
04:11.24Repo10bayis-extended-questlog: 03a9012456 * r200 locales/localization-tw.lua: beql: - zhTW update
04:13.22Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r171 / (3 files in 1 directory):
04:13.25RepoUpdated version number to 3.1.2.01 to match the latest WoW game client version.
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04:21.15AntiarcCryect: Ping
04:21.21AntiarcBigBrother is raping my framerate on Hodir
04:21.33AntiarcIt was seeing massive memory churn, and was taking me from 30 FPS to literally <1 FPS
04:21.42AntiarcI ran BigBrother:UnregisterAll() and my framerate shot up
04:22.09durcyn<PROTECTED>
04:23.10AntiarcIt's a useful tool, but not worth 30 FPS :P
04:23.21Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.1.2.01-release * r172 : Tagged release 3.1.2.01
04:23.26Repo10ysstargets: 03yssaril 07master * c53733c YssTargets.lua: [+1 commit] add anchor toggle to config so you can toggle it if you do not have LDB
04:24.03durcynonce upon a time i attempted to fix it, but between SpecialEvents-Aura and the tooltip scanning...
04:24.32AntiarcOh dear lord
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04:24.39AntiarcI'll just write my own. Can't be that hard.
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04:29.39Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r160 SKG_GUI_Main.lua: SKG :
04:29.43Repo- mousedown callback fix, I hope
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04:34.14Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r161 SKG_GUI_Main.lua: SKG :
04:34.18Repo- more typos. blah
04:34.45NeoTronstop mob healing has a typo that makes it just say "output" :P
04:34.52NeoTronthe locale string said outuput or so
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04:38.14Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r162 SKG_GUI_Main.lua: SKG :
04:38.17Repo- forgot to define column layout
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04:43.19NeoTronand the files are in the wrong order in the toc
04:50.34Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r163 SKG_GUI_Main.lua: SKG :
04:50.37Repo- apparently, I can't focus for shit right now. stupid errors.
04:55.01TorhalMotherfucker. DockingStation needs to quit fucking with tooltips.
04:55.29Repo10priorityqueue: 03bastetswarrior * r37 Warlock.lua: PriorityQueue:-
04:55.32RepoTweaked Deep Destro priority list
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05:04.49NeoTronnm on the load order, that's fine
05:05.05NeoTron@project speakingspell
05:05.06RepoNeoTron: No project found that matches 'speakingspell'
05:05.14NeoTron@project speakinspell
05:05.15RepoNeoTron: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/speakinspell/. SpeakinSpell. Game: WoW. rismisner (Manager/Author), Meneldil_Duskwood (Tester), leXin (Translator). Updated: 41 minutes ago. Tickets: 4/9
05:05.24NeoTron@describe speakinspell
05:05.25RepoNeoTron: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/speakinspell/. SpeakinSpell. SpeakinSpell will use random speeches in chat to announce when you use spells and other abilities Main Features Supports any spell or ability for any class. Also supports trinkets, items, and procced...
05:05.45Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r164 / (3 files in 1 directory): SKG :
05:05.47Repo- trying to rescope and put the acquire in the onclick method
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05:18.08NeoTronaddon did not work
05:18.13NeoTronreport healed was 0 all the time
05:18.24NeoTronand although Id on't know, I started dcing which I haven't before. not sure if it was it or somethin else
05:21.04NeoTronthe healing spell is 63278 not 63276
05:21.45Repo10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal * r78 LibQTip-1.0.lua:
05:21.48RepoIn AutoHideTimerFrame_OnUpdate(): Changed behavior from hiding the parent to having the library release the parent.
05:22.56Repo10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal 04r79 * r79 : Tagging as r79
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05:28.10Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r165 / (2 files in 1 directory): SKG :
05:28.13Repo- fix anchoring, I hope
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05:34.11Axodiousare there any tradeskill queue mods still about?
05:34.18Axodiousworking with 3.1
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05:39.03Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r166 SKG_GUI_Main.lua: SKG :
05:39.06Repo- lqtc, add autohide and fix function call
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05:43.58Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r167 SKG_GUI_Main.lua: SKG :
05:44.01Repo- another typo
05:49.21Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r168 SKG_GUI_Main.lua: SKG :
05:49.24Repo- use proper function arguments.. duh
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05:58.51durcynoh is it, Neo?  i must've been cross-eyed looking at the log
05:59.18Fisker-rages
05:59.53Axodiousrages back
06:00.46Repo10stop-healing-mobs: 03durcyn * r5 StopHealingMobs.lua:
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06:00.50Repohey the heal spell ID is different from the debuff spell ID.
06:01.19Fisker-rages back and forth
06:01.46Axodiousrages up and down
06:03.46Axodious2
06:03.47Axodiouser
06:03.51Axodious@project cast-yeller2
06:03.52RepoAxodious: No project found that matches 'cast-yeller2'
06:03.52quiescens3
06:03.57Axodious@project castyeller2
06:03.58RepoAxodious: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/castyeller2/. CastYeller2. Game: WoW. Adirelle (Manager/Author). Updated: 31 hours ago. Tickets: 1/1
06:04.27Axodiousckk you around/
06:05.27Axodiousthere a way i can leave him a msg that he’ll see?
06:05.39TorhalWhat's up?
06:05.48TorhalIf it's about beta.wowace.com, he knows.
06:05.49Axodiousbug on the beta site with download links on the files page
06:05.57Axodiouslol
06:05.58TorhalOh
06:06.03Fisker-rages left and right
06:06.16Axodiousthey’re in default font and not alligned again
06:06.18TorhalAxodious: That looks horrendous.
06:06.28Torhalckknight: ^^
06:06.50quiescenssekret code
06:07.09Fisker-i r sekrit
06:07.17TorhalIn Soviet Russia, quiescens fights chickens.
06:07.20Axodioustirkes r i
06:07.27durcynoh, that's obnoxious
06:08.16durcynthe frosthold daily quest is only repeatable up to exalted, so now i'm stuck at 980/1000
06:08.16durcynwhere's my 19 rep, Blizzard?
06:11.17Fisker-owned
06:12.30durcynoh, false alarm, i already did it today
06:12.36durcynhow's your battle.net account, Fisker-?
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06:13.42Fisker-fine
06:13.43Fisker-and yours?
06:13.48durcynjust dandy
06:14.55Fisker-traps durcyn in a bottle
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06:35.00stolenlegacyis the blizzard chat config kinda bugged?
06:35.05NeoTronman so we just got 7 fish feasts down... in a smiley face shape
06:35.14stolenlegacyi keep unchecking incoming whispers/outgoing whispers, but it just re-checks itself
06:35.23stolenlegacyafter i close the config frage
06:35.24stolenlegacyframe*
06:40.19NeoTrondurcyn: did you fix the issue with the locale too?
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07:19.50orionshockstolenlegacy: do you hit escape or click on OK?
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07:22.07durcynNeoTron:  /facepalm
07:22.08Repo10stop-healing-mobs: 03durcyn * r6 locale-enUS.lua:
07:22.11Repothis is what i get for copying and pasting locale files from other addons
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07:41.28phyberdracula: yeah.  go into the options.  Output -> None, should work.
07:41.37phyberdracula: also, None is (or should be) the default.
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07:56.59Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r1870 RecipeDB (4 files in 1 directory):
07:57.02Repoadded/removed missing/incorrect Engineering trainer data, Ticket 601
07:57.05Repoadded missing Blacksmithing trainer data, Ticket 600
07:57.08Reporemoved incorrect Enchanting trainer data, ticket 599
07:57.11Repoadded missing Leatherworking trainer data, Ticket 581
07:59.59Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r1871 / (2 files in 1 directory):
08:00.02RepoIn ARLFrame.lua: Added realm name above character selection, and added tradeskill wiping for the selected toon if the Alt key is held while the left mouse button is pressed.
08:00.05RepoIn AckisRecipeList.lua: Replaced global wipe() with local twipe().
08:01.52AntiarcHow do I add textures into chat?
08:02.10AntiarcI tried /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage("|TInterface\\ChatFrame\\UI-ChatIcon-Blizz.blp:0:2:0:-3|t")
08:02.14AntiarcBut it just spits that out literally
08:02.23Antiarc(And I'm using that because it's an example I found)
08:02.29Torhal|SleepTry \124
08:02.32Torhal|SleepInstead of |
08:02.47nevcairielya i think you have to escape the pipes, or the games does it again
08:03.29durcynlook at ICON_LIST
08:03.52NeoTronwell got a bunch of phase 3 yogg
08:04.00NeoTronjust forgot how to do fricking phase 1 for ovre an hour
08:04.02Antiarc"|TInterface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-RaidTargetingIcon_1:",
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08:04.22NeoTrondurcyn: so yeah good news is it reported stuff in the raid :P
08:04.30durcynNeoTron: yay!
08:05.36Antiarcaha
08:05.39AntiarcYou have to add :0 or whatnot
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08:05.51durcynstring.format("%s0\124t", _G.ICON_LIST[x])
08:05.54durcynyeah.
08:08.51Repo10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r35 / (4 files in 2 directories):
08:08.54Repo- added additional filter options to only display debuffs relevant to selectable roles (physical dps, magic dps, tank)
08:09.10NeoTrondurcyn: what I don't know is if my dc's somehow as relted to that or just bad luck
08:09.22NeoTronbecause I dc'd like 3 times during the fight after not having a dc for a logn time
08:09.27NeoTronseems like a rather unlikely shot
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08:09.40NeoTrondurcyn: unfortunately though - btw - it reported 0 healed ;-)
08:09.45NeoTronbut.. it should work now
08:09.46durcynNeoTron: i find it highly unlikely that one more tiny little event handler is going to flood you offline
08:09.51NeoTronindeed
08:09.54durcynyeah, i saw your messages
08:10.03durcynthat 8 was a 6 in my log, i swear.
08:10.07Repo10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow 041.0.10 * r36 : Tagging as 1.0.10
08:10.24NeoTronhehe
08:11.22NeoTronso I'm using "tellmewhen" now for various shit
08:11.32NeoTronit's VERY annoying when swapping between frost and unholy
08:11.39NeoTronsince I need and use different stuff :P
08:12.28NeoTronAntiarc: the item swapping seems nice
08:12.39AntiarcSwapMagic?
08:13.13NeoTronyep
08:13.26NeoTronthe equipment spec swapper works too
08:13.57NeoTronas a sidenote, I tried doing yogg as UH gain and even when passively standing next to me, the pet despawned all the time
08:14.16nevcairielit is afraid :/
08:14.25durcynwere you taking portals?  it's brutal on pets
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08:19.13Repo10little-brother: 03Antiarc 07master * 26d26a6 / (5 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Let's actually add files
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08:19.46AntiarcI discovered tonight that BigBrother was responsible for slaughtering my FPS on Hodir
08:19.55AntiarcLike, we're talking a constant 30 FPS to <1 FPS
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08:27.07bluspacecowwhat is BigBrother
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08:28.18durcynAntiarc: tell me you only rewrote the buff checking
08:28.39AntiarcI wrote a replacement for the CC breaking because that's what I mostly use
08:28.43AntiarcWriting buff checking tomorrow
08:29.19durcyni ripped out the cc break stuff a year ago =P
08:29.30AntiarcHeh. What's it called?
08:29.32durcynCrybaby
08:29.37Antiarcaha
08:29.42Antiarcwelp
08:29.44nevcairielI use RaidBuffStatus for the buff checking now
08:29.46Antiarcyay duplication?
08:30.02durcyncompetition is healthy
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08:30.17AntiarcWell, it's not like there's a lot to compete with in this space :P
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08:32.53Antiarcmeh, I just asked 'em to nuke it :P
08:33.29Antiarchow do I configure crybaby?
08:34.10durcyni think i've just got a couple of locals at the top of the file, i should get around to adding sink support one of these days
08:34.22durcynfeel free to hack on it, the repository's open
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08:35.01Antiarcmeh, I'll just un-delete mine. It has multi-channel reporting and stuff too
08:35.11durcynoh, how elegant =P
08:36.04nevcairielsucks that i delete faster then you decide, eh
08:36.08AntiarcMeh, oh well
08:36.12AntiarcCan you invalidate the little-brother stub?
08:36.20AntiarcIt won't let me take it again :P
08:36.46nevcairielits still there, i can undelete it =P
08:36.51AntiarcOh, cool
08:37.50nevcairielnothing ever gets deleted for good
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08:41.46durcynAntiarc: oh, wasn't suggesting you should delete it.. also, consider adding Repentance now that it lasts a while
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08:42.26durcyngosh, i sound so bossy.
08:42.46durcynaaanad it's there, shutting up now
08:44.37quiescenso.o
08:45.50quiescensrepentance is probably even more annoying since its has a cooldown to go with the exceptionally long duration
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08:57.18Groktari got 8 letters from the IRS today
08:57.37bluspacecowlolz
08:59.10Groktar:D
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09:01.17bluspacecowhave you been growing dope again Grok ?
09:02.22Groktaractually i work for the irs
09:02.26Groktarbeen applying for jobs
09:02.47Groktarthey're letters telling me whether i was eligible, and which paygrade i would get
09:03.31nevcairielpeople actually pay you?
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09:04.42yoshimowhere did the wowclient get the "news" from  whicht you can see on your login screen?
09:05.22Groktarer
09:05.23nevcairiel~wowalert
09:05.24purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
09:05.29Groktarthat's the one
09:05.35Groktari was trying to remember what the command is
09:05.41yoshimothx nevcairiel
09:06.20Groktarnevcairiel: yeah, i'm a total success in life
09:06.39nevcairielthats so hard to believe =P
09:06.43Groktari have a bachelors in computer science and i'm doing entry level data entry at the irs
09:06.44Groktar><
09:06.55Zuz666nevcairiel: Hi! Can we talk about my wowace account unbanning?
09:07.46nevcairielhm nah, i'm not in the mood
09:07.52Groktari got bored and opened up 25 ventrilo clients
09:07.57Groktar1 under my name
09:08.06Groktarthe rest are people that we've gkicked over the years
09:08.19nevcairiellol
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09:08.42Groktari had to mute them all
09:08.50Groktarboth mic/binds and sound
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09:09.37Zuz666nevcairiel: It is sad. That can I make what to change your mood?;-)
09:09.47nevcairielgo away
09:09.48nevcairiel:)
09:10.10Groktarok, i lied
09:10.15Groktaronly 17 vent clients
09:10.19Groktari ran out of names of bads :(
09:10.28nevcairielhah
09:10.43Groktargonna leave them logged in when i got to bed
09:10.44nevcairielwe had a list on our forums once of people that have been in the guild over the past few years
09:10.55nevcairielit was a long list
09:11.10nevcairieland its only like 3 people left from the original founders
09:11.13nevcairielone is me =p
09:11.18Groktarhehe
09:11.27Groktari'm one of the few people left from the beginning of TBC
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09:11.48nevcairielthis was the first raid guild on the realm, created in azuregos/MC times
09:12.05nevcairielI think our guild-anniversary was just a few weeks ago
09:14.17Matrix110around 400 ex players here but prolly around 200 are alts
09:15.32Repo10lil-sparkys-workshop: 03lilsparky * r68 / (5 files in 2 directories): re-mined milling and prospecting data
09:15.35Repoadded "common skills" item conversions (essences, primals, eternals, etc)
09:17.55Repo10mbb: 03StingerSoft * r51 / (2 files in 1 directory): MBB:-
09:17.58Repo- ruRU update
09:18.01Repo- toc update
09:19.51Repo10little-brother: 03Antiarc 07master * 815b980 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Add misdirection. Can output misdirection notices indepentendly of CC breaks
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09:25.18Repo10xloot: 03StingerSoft * r361 XLoot.toc: XLoot: toc update
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09:29.37Zuz666nevcairiel: I do not understand in what sense of banning my wowace accout without any private message and since there is no problem to create the new account and to come from other IP-address. If a problem only in your mood I do not see other exit. I promise that I will not make any more such changes without approval of the addons authors. I ask to give me one more chance and to activate my account. Thanks for attention.
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09:34.57hastewth? people can still edit other peoples add-ons without permission?
09:35.04[Ammo]they can
09:35.18[Ammo]if the repo is set to open
09:35.20digmousethe repos are open by default
09:35.27Groktarhides a trout in your car
09:35.28[Ammo]but it's common practice to ask first
09:35.55hasteit shouldn't even be common practice :p
09:35.57digmousebut authors can limit it by setting up author authorities
09:36.06bluspacecow~tnt Groktar
09:36.19digmouse(except localization works?)
09:36.19Groktari've always enjoyed reading the angry commits
09:36.27hasteoh hi I accidently in your add-on!
09:36.32Groktarwhen someone screws up an addon without asking
09:36.42digmousenow you see me, now you cant !
09:36.43Groktarhaste: THE WHOLE ADDON:
09:36.43nevcairielWell its easier to leave the repo open and rely on people asking before, rather then adding everyone that has a small patch as an author
09:36.50haste:D
09:37.00hasteor nevcairiel !
09:37.03hasteyou could use git :D
09:37.08hasteand like... closed repo !
09:37.11nevcairieland if peopel don't ask and do stupid/silly stuff, they get banned :)
09:37.14hasteand accept pull requests from people
09:37.14nevcairielI do that
09:37.16nevcairielbut you know
09:37.17Antiarcnooooooooo
09:37.19nevcairielpeople are stupid
09:37.20Antiarc19/20 Wrecking Ball
09:37.23AntiarcAnd I caught some notice
09:37.29AntiarcAnd got focused down
09:38.03hastebaww
09:38.15digmouseI thought most addon screw-ups are by localizer (like me, I swear I havent screwed up anything!) but with the localization app that should not be a case
09:38.20hastestupid people shouldn't be allowed to commit in the first place :D
09:38.26digmouses/localizer/localizers/
09:38.28Groktari approve othe logitech revolution mousewheel
09:38.37Groktarat first i thought it would be annoying
09:38.45[Ammo]too bad the localization appis more hassle than it's worth for me
09:38.45Groktarplannned on turning it off
09:38.51Groktarbut it's actually pretty sweet
09:39.10digmouse[Ammo]: why?
09:39.11Groktarcan scroll an entire document with one flick
09:39.29bluspacecow*eats localisation app*
09:39.51[Ammo]I hate it. period.
09:39.56nevcairielI wrote a small Lua cmdline tool to scan my code files for L[..] strings to import into the locale app, so i dont have to do that manually everytime i change something
09:39.57nevcairielworks fine :D
09:40.29bluspacecow*eats nevcairiel's cmdline tool*/
09:40.44[Ammo]urgh, kid writing on my TV, afk
09:40.51nevcairiellol
09:41.26Groktarhands him a permanent marker
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09:41.49bluspacecowencourages him to write lewd words
09:41.54digmouseWTB nevcairiel's lua cmdline tool
09:42.11bluspacecowhow much you want fo it ?
09:42.16nevcairielits in the bartender repo i think
09:42.16bluspacecow20G ?
09:42.48digmouse20G and 1 silver, bid
09:43.42digmouseoh no, git
09:45.08Groktarlewd = groktar's second favorite word
09:46.27Repo10little-brother: 03Antiarc 07master * 64dfab6 LittleBrother.lua: [+1 commit] Fix for mismatched format parameters
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09:52.59Repo10libtalentquery-1-0: 03Zeksie * r58 / (2 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
09:53.02RepoLibTalentQuery-1.0:
09:53.05Repo- Bit of code tidying/sanity.
09:53.08Repo- Now allows you to Query for player, it will just fire the result off immediately.
09:53.11Repo- Now also passes unitid as 3rd parameter to callback function.
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09:56.40Repo10little-brother: 03Antiarc 07master * 7f0e40d LittleBrother.lua: [+1 commit] Colorize misdirect messages
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10:04.09NamdrofI have updated my .pkgmeta and the packager is pulling the right externals... but when I do a svn co it is still pulling what was formerly in .pkgmeta... any idea why?
10:04.35AntiarcYou didn't update your svn extenrals
10:08.52bluspacecowBBl
10:09.34Repo10talented: 03StingerSoft * r573 Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update
10:12.48Namdrofupdating my pkgmeta does not update the externals?
10:12.53Repo10little-brother: 03Antiarc 07master * 9151896 LittleBrother.lua: [+2 commits]
10:12.56Repo9151896: You can't send color codes in chat messages. Duh.
10:12.59Repo4c04d6d: Colorize non-spell break messages
10:13.03AntiarcNo, svn:externals are different and specific to SVN
10:13.48Namdrofhow do i update them then? (thanks for the help)
10:14.48Zeksieif using tortoise? right click main folder, tortoise menu, properties. and in the list, remove the section for externals
10:15.17Namdrofi am on the command line... have not found a free app for mac yet
10:15.35Zeksiedunno then :)
10:15.36Zeksiertfm ^^
10:15.59Namdrofi tried the rtfm part... the manual is hiding from me though :)
10:16.05Zeksieheh
10:16.33Repo10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.3.3-2-g0430982 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
10:16.36Repo0430982: Fix the keybinding names in the blizz keybinding panel.
10:16.39Repoe8f0708: Disable the range updating for buttons without a range.
10:18.18Fisker-hey sexy Zeksie
10:18.40Zeksiehey Fisk
10:21.25stolenlegacyorionshock: i click okay, ofc
10:23.13jnwhitehany LDB addons that let you add/change/del equipment sets yet?
10:24.23Zuz666Namdrof: 1. go to your lib dir and check: svn propget svn:externals 2. when use svn propset command to change it (see svn help propset).
10:25.22Antiarcjnwhiteh: ClosetGnome
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10:25.47Namdrofthanks, i will check that now
10:26.14nevcairieldoesnt CG only allow switching and deleting, so far?
10:27.01Repo10addon-loader: 03Ammo * r89 / (2 files in 2 directories):
10:27.04Repoadd click to load tooltip to ldb launchers for  X-LoadOn-LDB-Launcher
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10:27.28GnarfozPrimer: unbelievable, it took youtube nearly 36 hours to process my video, but here it is, and it hasn't got the damn preloading-indicator bug :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z80p6tCFyoA&fmt=22
10:28.55Repo10closet-gnome: 03TrAsHeR * r608 locales/frFR.lua: frFR update
10:29.26Repo10libtalentquery-1-0: 03Zeksie 04WoW 3.1.2 Release * r59 : Tagging as WoW 3.1.2 Release
10:30.52Repo10little-brother: 03Antiarc 07master * 6e46cb1 LittleBrother.lua: [+1 commit] Don't try to report empty messages
10:33.22Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r853 / (5 files in 2 directories): - 3.1.2 changes
10:33.55NamdrofZuz666, if I go into my trunk/Libs and do svn propget svn:externals nothing comes back.  If I go into just trunk/ svn propget svn:externals shows me all my externals... is that normal?
10:36.37AdirelleNamdrof: well it depends where you defined your externals and where you defined them to checkout the libraries
10:37.18Zuz666Yep!
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10:37.58Namdrofokay... now for some reading as to how to delete one entry from what is returned and add a new one
10:38.24Adirellei'd say svn propedit
10:38.43Adirelleyou may have to set EDITOR beforehand to use your favorite editor
10:38.46Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r173 / (5 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 11 lines)
10:38.49RepoAdded Help to the interface options, containing the complete user's manual for maximum detail on using all of the features SpeakinSpell has to offer
10:38.52Repo"/ss" now opens the interface options
10:38.55Repo"/ss help" now opens the interface options to the Help page
10:38.58Repo"/ss options" still works as before
10:39.13Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r174 SpeakinSpell.toc: updated version number
10:39.51Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner 04v3.1.2.02-release * r175 : Tagged release 3.1.2.02
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10:42.32Fisker-yo dawg
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10:45.18Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r69 / (7 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
10:45.21RepoUtopia:
10:45.25Repo- Added some minimal level checking, it's not really designed for non-raid environments, but at least now it'll show things as available or not properly for lowbies.
10:45.27Repo- Added Stoneskin to Armor buff cat and moved Mage's water elemental mana regen thing into Replenishment cat.
10:45.30Repo- Added comms abuse prevention; Just say "No!" to DC macros.
10:45.44Adirellevhaarr: are you here ? I'm using this to have CG detect my worn EM set : http://paste.wowace.com/700/
10:46.05[Ammo]Adirelle: let me commit that :p
10:46.35Repo10closet-gnome: 03Ammo * r609 ClosetGnome.lua:
10:46.38RepoClosetGnome: try and detect the worn set with some Adirelle code
10:46.45Cheadsare you supposed to be able to select sets to wear using the new closetgnome from the LDB?
10:46.58[Ammo]yeah
10:47.07[Ammo]click it
10:47.17Adirelleyep, ClosetGnome is now pretty much a LDB interface to the Blizzard EM
10:47.21Cheadshad to relog/reload
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10:47.26Cheadsworking now
10:47.30vhaarr+ keybindings
10:47.55Cheadshad 4 sets already defined... equipped them.. and they didn't appear in a list.. after a reload they did appear as they should
10:48.05bluspacecow<PROTECTED>
10:48.08Cheadsalready defined = before I installed closetgnome
10:50.10sb|workmeh
10:50.10sb|workAce2-r1096\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:216: memory allocation error: block too big
10:50.13sb|workagin
10:50.15sb|workagain...
10:50.17sb|workwtf is it? :o
10:50.32vhaarrhave you got transcriptor running?
10:50.36sb|workno
10:50.43sb|workurg
10:50.45sb|workrecount 50mb
10:50.58Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r854 Data/Hunter.lua: - A few changes to explosive shot
10:51.12Fisker-oh god i'm killing you sb|work
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10:53.52Trell_if anyone's familiar with CaithUI, whats the bagmod used in it?
10:54.16Repo10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.3.3-4-g922d7f3 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
10:54.19Repo922d7f3: Shuffle some code around for more logical order.
10:54.22Repobc39082: Further optimizations to the range check.
10:54.42thulspotify:track:7pULfdkVGIRRt5Dm5La5R0 < ftw
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10:59.40Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie 04May 21st Release * r70 : Tagging as May 21st Release
10:59.52nevcairielsome people have weird tag names
10:59.57Zeksiewell..
11:00.10Zeksiei r special
11:00.30Zeksiemy mum told me so
11:03.49bluspacecowwhat kind of speclal ?
11:04.37bluspacecowshort bus special ?
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11:14.27Repo10closet-gnome: 03Ammo * r610 ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: move guessing of set to ADDON_LOADED
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11:17.44Trell_is there any equivalent, up to date addon life Aloft?
11:17.46Trell_*like
11:18.01Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r293 / (5 files in 5 directories): XPerl: zhTW update. Thanks PlayerLin.
11:22.04Repo10closet-gnome: 03Ammo * r611 ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: guess sets at PLAYER_LOGIN, not ADDON_LOADED
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11:23.58Repo10misspelled: 03nrpieper * r21 / (3 files in 1 directory):
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11:24.03RepoChanged some of the frame xlm code, to hopefully hide a phantom dropdown frame that was being seen by some.
11:26.57Repo10closet-gnome: 03Rabbit * r612 ClosetGnome.lua: Cleanup.
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11:30.52Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.7.0-2-g4d010aa Parrot.toc: [+1 commit] remove donate-line
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11:45.08kagarohrmm wonder how well this works
11:45.29kagaroim trying out IRC interface to Adium
11:45.43Fisker-you're dead kagaro
11:45.46Fisker-YA HEAR ME? DEAD
11:45.55kagarohahahah
11:46.06kagaroatleast it works
11:47.28bluspacecowQQ
11:47.52bluspacecowQ_Q authentication problems again
11:48.07bluspacecow~duck Kagaro
11:48.08purlACTION gives Kagaro a fuzzy, ugly little duckling, which immediately grows into a full sized swan and pummels Kagaro with it's big white wings.
11:48.21bluspacecowO_O
11:48.32bluspacecowdidn't expect that one
11:49.11kagaroi will say the interface is crappy compared to colloquy
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12:04.11Trell_any dogtag wizzkids here?
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12:04.15Trell_I'm using: [Classification] [Level:ClassColor] [(if IsPlayer then Race:ClassColor else Creature end) (if TalentSpec then TalentTree:ClassColor end)] [if IsPlayer or [IsEnemy and not IsPet] then Class:ClassColor end]
12:04.28Trell_wait never mind, I can see the error now
12:07.01Fisker-~vs kagaro Fisker-
12:07.02purlin a one on one showdown, wait, whats this? iphigenia has proceded to jump in the ring, thrash kagaro & Fisker-, and wins.
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12:09.22bluspacecow~fish purl
12:09.23purlACTION slaps purl around with a large trout
12:09.30bluspacecowtee hee
12:10.21Antiarcwhat the hell
12:10.21Antiarchttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/5355170/Pictures-of-the-day-20-May-2009.html
12:11.45kagarowtf kinda helmut is that
12:12.27bluspacecow"
12:12.28bluspacecowA child demonstrates the PediSedate, which gently sedates youngsters by administering anaesthetic nitrous oxide gas through a headset as they play computer games on handheld consoles "
12:12.37p4avedwtb
12:12.44bluspacecowapparently one to make kids high while they play video games
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12:13.48SunTsuSo a whack over the head doesn't work on today's kid's anymore?
12:13.59p4avedleaves a bruise
12:14.37bluspacecowthat girl in the picture looked pretty off her rocker.
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12:22.27Funkeh`netcurse, why can we still not delete comments on our addon pages on curse?
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12:33.47Fisker-freedom of speech!
12:33.54bluspacecowidk
12:34.09bluspacecowis it something your'e wanting to have authority over
12:35.33bluspacecowjust playing devils advocate here ....
12:37.24bluspacecowim for all censorship in the spirit of keeping things civil and all ....
12:37.43bluspacecowbut as a user im interested in those negative comments along with the positive comments
12:37.54nevcairielthere is no freedom of speech on my domain
12:38.00bluspacecowi like to see how an addon author addresses those negative comments
12:38.00nevcairielyou want freedom, get yourself a blog
12:38.20Fisker-if a person doesn't like an addon he can just rate it bad
12:39.13bluspacecowso theres no way for an addon author to make their addon appear good by deleting all negative comments ?
12:39.28nevcairieli just never read the curse.com comments
12:39.41nevcairielor rather, i read them once a month, the newest 5 :P
12:39.55nevcairielif someone wants to give feedback, they can read my description and come to the forums
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12:40.05nevcairielwhere i tell them to go :)
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12:41.16Repo10bayis-extended-questlog: 03Namdrof * r201 : Updated svn:externals to also have LibQuixote-2.0
12:41.50Funkeh`bluspacecow, you're interested in seeing people spam nonsense unrelated to addons?
12:42.26nevcairielgold spammers spamming the comments of a anti-spam addon = win :)
12:42.36Fisker-sauce
12:43.18bluspacecowlike i said playing devils advocate
12:43.36bluspacecowof course you want to get rid of junk posts
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12:47.06Repo10swapmagic: 03mikk * r67 readme.txt: Rewrite readme.txt to reflect what SwapMagic is today
12:47.41bluspacecowand keep a civil comments page you may need to delete posts
12:48.05bluspacecowim just thinking " can it be abused" ... not that i'm saying necessarily that abuse will take place
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12:48.18bluspacecowjust asking the question anyway to foster discussion on it
12:48.21Repo10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r37 / (4 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 3 lines)
12:48.24RepoDefaults:
12:48.27Repo- misdirection announces cast instead of buff gain,
12:48.30Repo- added Summoning Stone Effect.
12:48.33RepoSource_Spellcasts:
12:49.34Funkeh`bluspacecow, we have deletion of comments readiliy available on wowace, curse just doesn't seem to get any love, you can't even modify your own comments, yet you can delete them
12:50.16Funkeh`the whole site is (imo) crap, and I don't blame people for just using CC and keeping away from it
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12:52.45ckknightAxodious, Torhal|Sleep: I know about the download links
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12:55.31Fisker-there's a website for the curse client?
12:56.14bluspacecowthink do
12:56.45draculaphyber: but where are these sink options? I only see TopScoreFu's own settings in the right-click menu on FuBar, but it doesn't have a sink option
13:04.18GnarfozI've got a video documenting a bug with the Yogg-Saron encounter, however, since it involves a disconnect, it shows my account name - would it be a good idea to post it on the official forums? ^^
13:04.44Gnarfoz(would have to have it reposted on US forums anyway, probably, EU forums are a waste of time ;p)
13:04.50nevcairielshouldne be too hard to mask the account name
13:04.54p4avedpost than edit out the link
13:04.59p4avedthe mods can c edits
13:05.51Gnarfoznevcairiel: well, too late, and I'm not doing the whole thing again, I noticed it too late ;o
13:05.55Repo10bayis-extended-questlog: 03Namdrof * r202 : libaboutpanel has changed their repo from svn to git.
13:07.00Gnarfozshouldn't edit videos at yawn-o'-clock
13:07.20phyberdracula: hmmmm.
13:07.55bluspacecowjust white out the acct name
13:08.22phyberdracula: on the right click, there should be an "Output" menu now, if you're running the latest alpha/beta.
13:09.06BelazorI don't think topscorefu packages on alpha/beta, because I have global release set to Alpha and I see 1.0.4 as latest
13:09.34nevcairielit does package alphas
13:09.39Gnarfoztopscorefu is ages old and has tons of problems... you should probably look at an alternative ^^
13:10.02BelazorHitCrit's display sucks bawls compared to TSF tho :p
13:10.28phyberthe only real problem with it was caused by that asshat years ago who randomly edited it.
13:10.35BelazorThe only "problem" I would have with it is that damage done while under influence of superbuffs isn't ignored
13:10.36phyberpeoples saved variables are still broken years later.
13:10.55phyberBelazor: yeah, I was thinking i should add that stuff the other day.
13:11.01phyberwhen doing the undercity quest again.
13:11.22Gnarfozphyber: hm? it records shit it shouldn't
13:11.28Gnarfozlike records of enemy player heals and whatnot
13:11.37Gnarfozcan set spells to ignore, it doesn't care
13:11.50Belazoryar, I did some research for it for HitCrit (I had to use it in the period where TSF was broken with the Paladin changes which I couldn't locally fix myself) but I found that wowhead doesn't let you easily list all superbuffs
13:11.59Gnarfozrecords different ranks of HoTs on me (from friendly players) as my records, separately
13:12.03Gnarfozall weird ^^
13:12.40draculayeah, and things like XT-002's Light Bomb
13:13.01draculabut I think it's impossible to tell whether some dmg you did to others was an own ability or not
13:13.26phyberthere is a combatlog filter and it also checks if you know the spell or not.
13:13.35phyberI end up with random things in my Purge menu, but my main menu seems fine.
13:13.36draculabut the list gets filled up with random crap pretty fast
13:13.39phyberI'm not sure why.
13:14.02draculahm indeed
13:14.24draculathe FuBar pulldown contains abilities only iirc
13:15.04phyberinfact, i think i do know why. i think i'm checking if the player knows that spell too late.
13:16.18phyberthat purge menu full of the spell names is a list of "spellname" = false.  stops it from having to check if you know that spell every time it sees it.
13:16.34phyberi should store that elsewhere.  probably in a table that isn't saved, or visible anywhere.
13:16.46phyberfirst time it checks something it just adds an entry.
13:17.05phyberbleh.
13:17.14Belazormaybe you should just scrap everything altogether and make a v2, would fix people's SVs too :p
13:17.30Beutjuwhen i want to register an event, shall i do it via a .xml or shall i create a frame and then setscript on it, or is there another better way?
13:17.43phybertrue.
13:18.00Belazorjust don't be tempted to muck around with the fubar tooltip display, its simplicity and to-the-point is why I use TSF over HitCrit
13:20.15BelazorTo be honest it would be best if you used LPT to cache a list of a player's spells, and only record hits/crits from those spells. Would stop all the bullshit pet/vehicle/etc spells from being included in the first place
13:22.19BelazorOf course to be accompanied with a list of IDs for HoT effects and other non-spellbook spells like a DK's Necrosis, etc ;p
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13:22.32BelazorHowever you choose to do it, all that would remain then is to procure a list of superbuffs, and WLK's vulnerable mobs/bosses, and we'd be golden ^^
13:25.29Repo10fubar_topscorefu: 03ananhaid 07master * v1.0.4-3-g4b49b1a / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] zhCN/zhTW update.
13:28.34Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r855 / (4 files in 2 directories): - Updated mage talents, coefficients and added glyphs
13:37.00Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r856 Data/Mage.lua: - Added 2p t7 40% mana gem bonus
13:39.17phyberBelazor: I already cache a list of the players spells, so it does (should) only record hits/crits from them.
13:39.44phyberthings appearing in the Purge menu aren't having hits/crits recorded for them.
13:39.56Belazoraah, I see XD
13:39.57phyberwell, unless they really are a spell with a hit/crit recorded.
13:40.07phybermost of them are simply "Some Spell" = false
13:40.23phyberwhich is why i was saying i could probably record those somewhere else, that isn't saved.
13:40.24Gnarfozgreat
13:40.30GnarfozEU forums don't even HAVE a bug report forum
13:40.34Gnarfozyay blizz \o/
13:40.39Belazorthen I support the aforementioned "hiding from public view" notion ^^
13:40.40Stanzillanobody would read it :P
13:40.48phyberGnarfoz: or a mac forum.  EU forum is fail.
13:41.10Gnarfozyeah, guess I can't post it then
13:41.18Fisker-kisses Gnarfoz
13:41.29Gnarfozor someone with a US account could do me the favor and post it and edit out the URL ;\
13:41.35phyberpost it in general and watch it sink.
13:41.41Fisker-Bug reports are dealt with ingame gnartard
13:41.50GnarfozFisker-: no they aren't f-tard
13:41.50Gnarfoz:p
13:41.53Fisker-yes they are
13:41.56Gnarfozthis is EU and you know it
13:41.56Gnarfoz:p
13:42.30BelazorCoruse we still need a Purge list so in case we hit a superbuff the mod didn't know about, we can reset our affected data
13:42.39phyberbefore trying to report this bug, did you delete your WTF and Cache and Interface folders? :p
13:43.12Gnarfozphyber: no, because it's a yogg-saron script bug
13:43.12Gnarfoz;p
13:43.13phyberBelazor: yeah.  i'll take a look at making the random spells not appear in the list.  :)
13:43.32phybermaybe he doesn't like your addons.
13:52.50Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r857 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Fixed some errors in Mage.lua
13:55.06Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r5660 Plugins/Bars2.lua: Plugins/Bars2: Add font option.
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14:09.46harlsomething's wrong with my ClosetGnome
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14:11.40harli'm not getting any errors but clicking the ldb (or minimap) button doesn't do anything at all
14:12.09Hjalteharl: Your sets probably got wiped, you need to do new ones using the Equipment Manager.
14:12.38harlso ClosetGnome doesn't create any sets itself anymore at all?
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14:13.15HjalteNot afaik, it just shows the ones you have created with the equipment manager.
14:15.15harlok. i'll try
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14:34.53Trell_does anyone have any ideas at all why, when I have all my addons enabled, any time I logout/exit wow, it crashes with a 132 error?
14:35.05Trell_I've enabled a quarter at a time and can logout/exit fine
14:35.14Trell_but when I enable all at once, it crashes me on logout or exit.
14:36.17ckknighthey all
14:36.23ckknighthttp://beta.wowace.com/contests/1-test-contest/entries/
14:36.28ckknightthat should be viewable now
14:36.55Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r5665 / (2 files in 2 directories): deDE updates
14:37.46Xinhuani like entry 17
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14:41.10Repo10misspelled: 03nrpieper * r22 / (4 files in 2 directories):
14:41.13RepoNow uses AceEvent to replace the hidden frame and OnEvent hook needed to load guild members.
14:41.16RepoAdded the "words" LFG and LFM to the US English dictionary.
14:41.19RepoWhen a suggestion is selected to replace a given misspelled word (or Ignore or Add to Dic was selected), the cursor was positioned at end of the replaced word.  Now, if there is a space after that word, the cursor is positioned to the right of that space.  This should reduce the spell-checking needed when the only character on the line, to the right of a cursor, is a space.
14:41.57Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1872 / (2 files in 2 directories):
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14:42.22ckknighthey all
14:42.25ckknightwho wants to be a contest judge?
14:42.52sacarascWhat do I get for doing it?
14:43.17nevcairielI guess i can't participate anymore then? =P
14:43.24ckknightnevcairiel: lemme assign you
14:43.37ckknightnote: you can judge and participate at the same time
14:43.52ckknightyour votes will be visible to other judges, and you won't be making the final decisions
14:44.09ckknightthe process is that there's a judging process where all the judges cast votes
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14:44.31ckknightthen a concluding process where winners and runners-up are chosen (by me or Kaelten). Comments attach to each winning/runner-up entry
14:45.32ckknightonce that's done, the contest is finished, results are published
14:46.40WobinI'll judge if you want =)
14:47.48ckknightk
14:49.57Wobinckknight: you're doing this to figure out the layout and such right?
14:50.06ckknightand also workflow
14:50.29Wobincan you have some sort of ajaxy sliding menu thing on the judging panel to show/hide entries?
14:50.52ckknightwell, for the real contest, it might be a huge page of code
14:51.01RepoNew project: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/ysstargets/. YssTargets. yssaril (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
14:51.06ckknightrather than a one-liner
14:51.13WobinDon't see too much problem with that, if it's hidden by default =)
14:51.26Wobincause it's really going to be about comparing the entries
14:51.42Hjalteckknight: The contest page is larger in the beta version than when visiting the live page. That's a shame, I think.
14:51.58ckknightHjalte: what do you mean?
14:52.13ckknightspace is friendly to the eye, Hjalte
14:52.16Wobinckknight: one other thing you might consider, is having a lua compiler sort of thing so that we can 'run' lua code and see output.
14:52.35Hjalteckknight: On the beta page, I can see fewer entries than I can on the live page with a window of the same size. Maybe I just need to get used to it :)
14:52.41ckknightwell, due to it being score voting, Wobin, you don't really need to compare against each other. You can vote everything as a 5 for all I care :P
14:52.58ckknightHjalte: scroll wheel ftw?
14:53.05AckisWorkif submitter == ckknight score = 1 else score = 5 end
14:53.06Trell_right, apparently, ClearFont3 does not play well with some addons, thats what was causing me to crash out
14:53.10Trell_just out of interest
14:53.30ckknightwell, requirements for being a judge will be the ability to read lua code and
14:53.34ckknightcritique it
14:53.59Hjalteckknight: Yeah, I know about the scroll-wheel. It's a nice thing. But some of the fonts are bigger, as well.
14:54.06ckknightHjalte: on purpose
14:54.26Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r858 / (2 files in 1 directory):
14:54.29Repo- Updated loading process resulting in DrDamage information being available sooner after startup, tooltip and settings cleanups for Death Knights
14:56.22Wobinckknight: also, mostly due to the fact that after a few clicks on entries, it's hard to recall whose name the last snippet you just glanced at was
14:56.34Wobinif you had each entry under the name, it'd be easier to match
14:57.02Wobinat the moment, I'm going by "I've clicked this link, therefore it's the last clicked link there"
14:57.10ckknightWobin: I'm also wondering about if I could abstract it and have the voting on the entry itself
14:57.14ckknightrather than a separate poll
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14:57.22WobinThat could work
14:58.50ckknightyea, I think that'd work a bit better
14:58.55ckknightgonna close the judging process for now
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15:07.27nicoli_snooo but i didnt get a chance to enter?!?!
15:08.16AckisWorkI want a chance to enter nicoli_s
15:08.27nicoli_ssorry, exit only
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15:08.44nicoli_si ain't no house of revolving doors
15:09.12AckisWorklol
15:09.37ckknightshould contest voting be out of 5 or out of 10?
15:09.58ckknighteh, sticking with 5
15:09.58ckknightsimpler
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15:10.03Bruners5
15:10.03Wobin5 is fine
15:11.59Brunerswhat happend to the "let authors delete stupid comments on AddOns" ?
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15:17.55RepoNew project: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/feastcheck/. FeastCheck. Maat (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
15:19.02Repo10misspelled: 03nrpieper * r23 / (2 files in 1 directory):
15:19.06RepoAdded Ace3 OptionDep tag to the .toc so the addon would properly load for those running without libs embedded.
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15:21.20Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r169 / (4 files in 1 directory): SKG :
15:21.23Repo- help menu converted. Let's see if I can get it in one shot this time.
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15:22.18GnarfozAntiarc: meep
15:23.30GnarfozAntiarc: why are you making yet another copy of CCBreaker, BigBrother's CCbreaker part or CryBaby? :o Also, while you're doing it, please remove SPELL_AURA_REMOVED? It doesn't report what you think it does ;o
15:24.00Fisker-hey AckisWork
15:24.04Fisker-it's getting hot in here
15:26.00Fisker-hey Gnarfoz
15:26.01Fisker-it's getting hot in here
15:26.18Gnarfoznot until sc2 beta it doesn't
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15:30.41Fisker-giev account merges though Gnarfoz
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15:32.25Stanzillafiskers Fisker-
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15:37.10Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5667 / (2 files in 2 directories): koKR Update
15:37.29Fisker-i am hating you Stanzilla
15:37.32Fisker-you better watch out
15:37.44StanzillaFisker-: omg why? :<
15:37.57Fisker-because suddenly you'll be dead
15:38.02Fisker-with a capital D
15:38.14Stanzillasounds awesom
15:38.46[Ammo]god the fonts on that beta.wowace site are retardedly bad, use less of a curly font plix
15:38.52[Ammo]unreadable crap
15:39.26StanzillaI agree :D
15:39.41[Ammo]just use some helvetica/verdana/arial style font
15:39.44[Ammo]instead of that crapola
15:40.00nevcairielit looks way too much mac-ish
15:40.05nevcairielshouldnt let two mac users code the page
15:40.07[Ammo]it looks shit
15:40.12[Ammo]if that's what you mean
15:40.27[Ammo]use that font on curse.com but not on our wowace
15:40.28Pneumatus... @ iTunes, what's the point in having a 64-bit installer if you then go and install into Program Files (x86)
15:41.15nevcairielprobably for the iPod link driver or something
15:42.09Pneumatusprobably
15:42.50[Ammo]the font is HUGE like PS3 as well at least the stuff on that contest page
15:44.52Brunersso it wasnt just me that felt the fonts was wierd
15:44.57Pneumatuswhere has Talented's Talented_SpecTabs dissapeared to, i cant find the project :<
15:44.57[Ammo]no
15:45.09Gnarfozit's in Talented, Pneumatus
15:45.48Pneumatusthere an option somewhere that im missing now, Gnarfoz?
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15:46.52GnarfozPneumatus: hm? no?
15:47.04Gnarfozit's in Talented, the project
15:47.32Gnarfozi.e. install talented -> you get talented_spectabs (whatever it is, I just saw it and disabled it), too
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15:48.23Pneumatusoh, ill kick the CC into reinstalling talented then
15:49.26Gnarfozdidn't need to do that for me, I updated it and got that extra crap I never asked for :D
15:49.53PneumatusTalented_SpecTabs isnt part of the zip, not as its own addon anyway
15:50.53Pneumatusunless its been rolled in to alphas and not released yet
15:51.23Gnarfozsomeone actually uses release versions?
15:51.24Gnarfoz:D
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15:52.03Pneumatusunless an alpha contains a fix that i need, yes
15:52.15GnarfozPneumatus: http://www.wowace.com/projects/talented/files/1058-r573/ < 571
15:52.26Pneumatusyeh, spotted that after i thought about it
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15:59.16Repo10bigwigs-yogg-brain: 03Ackis 07master * 8a4d9c7 / (5 files in 2 directories): [new, +1 commit] Iniitial commit super dry-coded.
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16:00.18nevcairielsomehow that seems rather pointless
16:00.28nevcairieli mean, you need 3 phases
16:00.36nevcairielif you dont manage in that time you'll notice
16:00.37Repo10smooth-quest: 03Ammo 04r75-release * r76 : Tagging as r75-release
16:00.41nevcairielif you do, you'll notice too =P
16:00.54Repo10bigwigs-yogg-brain: 03Ackis 04v1.0Beta * c83cd65 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0 beta
16:01.24AckisWorkfirst time doing it last night, we had people calling out for the % on the brain during the fight
16:02.30nevcairielits silly :P
16:02.46nevcairieleither you manage it in 3 phases, or you wipe (probably)
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16:05.10Gnarfoznevcairiel: you neither need 3 phases, nor do you wipe if you use 4
16:05.24AckisWorkwe killed it in 2 last night
16:05.44Gnarfozindeed, and our 10man firstkill used 4 (even though all tries before that had only 2, wth)
16:05.44nevcairielyou don't wipe, but the chance that you do is greatly increased
16:05.47AckisWorkI also got the 22 slut bag from OS
16:05.48Gnarfozwhy?
16:05.59nevcairieli don't care about 10 man, its piss easy :P
16:06.13Gnarfozif you kill all tentacles before the stun ends, it's not more difficult at all
16:07.19Repo10bwkh: 03Ackis * r6 Docs/Main.txt: Update docs.
16:08.27Repo10bwkh: 03Ackis 04v1.51 * r7 : Tagging as 1.51
16:12.08Repo10macro-bank: 03Odlaw * r31 / (5 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
16:12.11Repo- Moved Options to AceGUI, and added a bunch of options
16:12.25Repo- Moved macros to global db (so that talent swapping is done on a profile basis)
16:12.29Repo- Added PreMadeMacros.lua so you can make macros ahead of time and import them.
16:12.33Repo- Added delete macro confirmation.
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16:14.32SilowyiI don't suppose there's anyon else from Whisperwind here who would know where our IRC channel went to?
16:14.38ckknighthey Wobin
16:14.39ckknighthttp://beta.wowace.com/contests/1-test-contest/entries/
16:15.09OdlawI thought mine was decently elaborate.. holy crap some people went to extremes.
16:15.30OdlawProblem viewing some entries tho, it trims some lines.
16:15.34ckknighthey all, who wants to be a contest judge? (want to test stuff)
16:15.59Wobin<PROTECTED>
16:16.30ckknightWobin: I dunno about that, that's not how any of the rest of the site works
16:16.48ckknightalso, if you were browsing page 2 of the index, then you're on the wrong place anyway
16:17.50SilowyiI like the sine wave one :P
16:18.33Repo10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r5669 / (2 files in 2 directories): ruRU update
16:19.21ckknightWobin: I got an idea.
16:19.40Repo10bigwigs-yogg-brain: 03Ackis 07master * v1.0Beta-1-g82a8fca / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fix the wiki link
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16:25.19ckknightWobin: check now.
16:26.05Wobinckknight: I like it =)
16:26.09ckknightgreat :)
16:27.15ckknightwell, I think it's a pretty good system for now
16:27.36ckknightand due to the way voting is done, it doesn't matter if you're a harsh critic and only vote 0-2, as long as you're consistent with yourself
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16:31.34jnwhitehoh no
16:31.36jnwhitehi didn't get my entry in =/
16:31.50Gnarfozwhatever will you do :D
16:32.14Hjalte<wowlanguage>hello world</wowlanguage>
16:32.38[Ammo]ckknight: where can I complain about the beta.wowace.com layout? :)
16:32.47ckknightyou can complain to me
16:32.54ckknightor more specifically
16:33.01ckknightyou can provide constructive criticism
16:33.03[Ammo]1. font sizes smaller, make them analog to current wowace
16:33.12ckknightjnwhiteh: sorry, it's closed now. You can enter the real contests, though
16:33.15[Ammo]2. please pick Helvetica/Arial/Verdana like font, this one is just shite
16:33.19[Ammo]it looks horrible
16:33.24[Ammo]other than that it's prety good
16:33.25ckknight[Ammo]: screenie
16:33.34ckknightit might be something related to your system
16:33.38ckknightat which point I could diagnose
16:33.38nicoli_sor it didnt happen
16:33.39[Ammo]it's just horrible
16:33.44ckknightplease just screenie
16:33.48[Ammo]put the font back to the old wowace
16:33.50[Ammo]but I'll screenie
16:33.51ckknightI'll make a proper decision based on that
16:34.16ckknightbtw, Wowace's font is Lucida Grande ;-)
16:34.23ckknightthe old one
16:34.28[Ammo]well it's more like arial etc than this pile of curly poo
16:34.57Pneumatusi think my gfx card is failing, anyone able to confirm/deny from http://yfrog.com/0kwowscrnshot052109172847jx showing random flickering tears across WoW all the time? :<
16:35.04ckknight[Ammo]: will you please just screenshot?
16:35.15[Ammo]it's uploading
16:35.26jnwhitehhow tragic.. my LZ77 encoder/decoder doesn't work!
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16:35.40[Ammo]http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/betawowace.jpg
16:35.55[Ammo]basically everything is HUGE like PS3 on the betawowace compared to the regular
16:36.01[Ammo]put the fontsizes to something sane
16:36.04[Ammo]like the old wowace
16:36.04BrunersPneumatus: yep
16:36.09[Ammo]and preferably the fontfaces as well
16:36.15jnwhitehlolwut
16:36.15jnwhitehlocal sub = string.gsub(string.sub(text,c,i), "([%(%)%.%%%+%-%*%?%[%^%$])", "%%%1")
16:37.01[Ammo]project overviews take a lot more space as well
16:37.30ckknightoh, you mean the titles being big?
16:37.32ckknightand curly?
16:37.35[Ammo]everything is big
16:37.37[Ammo]and curly
16:37.40[Ammo]the font just plain sucks
16:37.45ckknightno, normal text is sans-serif
16:37.57ckknighttitles are serif
16:38.00[Ammo]sigh
16:38.03[Ammo]make everything the same
16:38.50[Ammo]and at least the same sizes as the old wowace, having to scroll gazillions is bad (project list for instance)
16:39.21ckknightthere's more spacing on purpose
16:39.29ckknightit's not just font sizes
16:39.36ckknightpadding is given a bit more room
16:39.38[Ammo]it looks terribly large to me
16:39.45[Ammo]which makes it less usable
16:40.06nicoli_sdoes look a bit big in that screenie
16:40.13[Ammo]basically I liked the overall new layout
16:40.19[Ammo]just put the fonts back to the old wowace ones
16:40.23ckknightwell, the title of the individual entries is given an <h2>
16:40.29ckknight(or <h3>, I forget)
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16:40.53[Ammo]give old fonts, put this crap on curseforge :p
16:41.02ckknightdon't be a douche about curseforge
16:41.07ckknightbut fonts are a work in progress
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16:41.50[Ammo]I'm not being a douche about curseforge, I just feel you're raping wowace currently, which I'd rather complain about early in beta than when it's done
16:42.25Axodiousckk, just noticed on the beta site, if you change your ticket from defect to anything else it doesn’t auto replace the text
16:42.37ckknightAxodious: k, I'll look into it
16:42.54ckknight[Ammo]: this isn't early, but I will review your remarks and probably change it
16:43.05[Ammo]oh and while you're at it :)
16:43.14[Ammo]remove the description from projects in my home/projects/
16:43.20[Ammo]I am the author, I know what they do
16:43.23[Ammo]I don't need to scroll miles :)
16:43.50ckknighthaven't done profiles yet
16:43.54ckknightbut I'll take that into account
16:43.55ckknightand yea
16:43.58ckknightthat'll probably change
16:44.00ckknightdramatically.
16:44.04[Ammo]I asked for it on www.wowace.com 6 months ago :p
16:44.13[Ammo]and Kaelten said: will fix .. :)
16:44.31Kaeltenand it will be fixed
16:44.32Kaelten:D
16:44.35[Ammo]hehe
16:45.19ckknightyea, it'll be fixed
16:45.22[Ammo]I'm a conservative bastard when it comes to layouts, but sites like these need to have things nice and compact instead of bloglike spaced out :) imho ofcourse
16:45.23ckknightlikely in this beta overhaul thing
16:45.39ckknightAmmo: /home/blog/
16:45.39Kaeltenammo, thoughts on the new beta pages?
16:45.41ckknightI know you want it.
16:45.55[Ammo]Kaelten: mainly font sizes, font family, line spacing etc
16:46.04Hjalteckknight: If I zoom out once in firefox, I actually like the beta design much better :)
16:46.05[Ammo]make stuff compacter,. but I like the overall look
16:46.13Kaeltenhrm
16:46.17[Ammo]Hjalte: yeah, make stuff compacter :)
16:46.39compostcould someone help me with a newb question; give me a hint as to how to go about animating interface elements with lua - how to get some lua code to run each frame (timers? onupdate events?)
16:46.51Gnarfozyeah, good looking fonts look good, but I don't think wowace needs to be a fancy showoff site, hehe
16:47.09ckknightbut it's gotta look better than curse.com :(
16:47.11ckknightyou know
16:47.12thulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKV8HlfVcnk
16:47.12ckknightfor spite.
16:47.27[Ammo]currently curse looks better than beta.wowace.com for me
16:47.41Kaeltenhey, you take that back....
16:47.45[Ammo]no
16:48.02[Ammo]I don't need fonts that scream I'm Huge and Pretty! :p
16:48.22Kaeltenwell we can work with the fonts some, but we have gotten a lot of positive feedback about the fonts being big and pretty....
16:48.26ckknightBBW
16:48.30KaeltenBBF?
16:48.39[Ammo]Kaelten: give switchable stylesheet then
16:48.44ckknight[Ammo]: oh, we plan on it
16:48.45Kaeltenthat is a possibility
16:48.47[Ammo]so I can switch to smaller compacter and simpler fonts
16:49.00Kaeltenwe where already planning on allowing variable width, and custom color style sheets
16:49.19[Ammo]otherwise I'm afraid I'll have to play with GreaseMonkey to make the site bearable
16:49.23Repo10feastcheck: 03Maat * r3 FeastCheck.lua: handle if noone has food buff
16:49.48Kaeltengreasemonkey.... that funky monkey.... greasemonkey....
16:50.39Stanzillaand the header still looks gay! :P
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16:51.05ckknightStanzilla: you just want your header instead
16:51.11Stanzillatrue
16:51.20Stanzilla^^
16:51.29Kaeltenlol
16:51.41Kaeltenwell, I know we're not going to please everyone
16:51.44StanzillaKaelten rejected it :(
16:52.00Kaeltenfor now yeah
16:52.18ckknightI don't want to have it so we're pleasing no one by trying to please everyone
16:52.38Kaeltenyeah
16:52.40Kaeltenexactly
16:52.53Kaeltenwe're going to try to make up for those who aren't pleased by letting them please themselves.
16:53.24ckknightwith masturbation.
16:53.26ramozhey! go wash your mouth!
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16:53.30ramozboth of you
16:53.43Kaeltenhey I was talking about just letting people customize the css
16:53.47Kaeltenck is the dirty one
16:53.54ckknightI was talking about customizing css, too
16:54.00ckknightwith a splatter here and there
16:54.05ckknightokay, I'm done
16:54.10Kaeltenspent eh?
16:54.11ramozwe all know what you really meant when you wrote that, Kaelten
16:54.47p4avedi like beta.wowace.com
16:55.12AxodiousAdirelle, are spell failures for cy2 suppose to include when you cancel the cast or when an item isn’t ready?
16:55.45AdirelleAxodious: I filtered out a lot of them
16:56.00Axodiousah k
16:56.24Axodiousand a small thing specific to soulstones, there’s no way to do a “item not ready” error because i can’t add the soulstone item to the list
16:56.31Adirelleactually it annonces cooldowns higher than 1,5sec, various situations like stunned, silenced, out of line of sight or range
16:57.33Axodiousinterupted spell yells are useful for warlock abilities like ritual of summoning/doom/souls
16:57.43Adirelleerf... I've been a bit too restrictive I guess
16:58.07Axodiouson a side note, i really like what you’ve done with it over cy1
17:01.09Repo10moncaiqt: 03Moncai * r11 WatchFrame.lua:
17:01.12RepoFixed 3.1.2 compatibility, appearance changed on par with updates by Blizzard.
17:02.21Axodiousthis isn’t really a big deal because you can add a custom announce, all spells by default when added at the moment are saying “spell cast on” even if they aren’t a spell you cast on someone, maybe add a “no target” checkbox?
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17:04.49Repo10moncaiqt: 03Moncai 04v0.0.6-beta * r12 : Tagging as v0.0.6-beta
17:06.19AdirelleAxodious: yeah, I noticed the no target issue after adding the "always self cast"
17:06.50Axodiousjust found a bug with copying profiles, caused the cy2 screen to go blank
17:07.02Axodiousstuck blank after i reloaded my ui
17:07.19yoshimoackis, in your new yoggmodule for bigwigs, what is  "["|cff777777Unknown|r"] = true," used for?
17:07.39Axodiousyeah, gotta reset my variables for the toon i copied to
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17:08.15Axodiousdo you want me to put a ticket for that one?
17:14.10Repo10alttab: 03Ackis 07master * v1.25-2-g6978fe5 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Update toc, pkgmeta and docs
17:14.18Repo10alttab: 03Ackis 04v1.3 * bf4c221 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.3 release
17:15.54Cheads@project alttab
17:15.55RepoCheads: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/alttab/. AltTabber. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 seconds ago
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17:16.33Axodiouslol got another thing for you Adirelle, when casting hex on someone an dit fades from the target it is saying “Hex faded out of Target” i believe it should say “Hex faded from Target”
17:16.49Axodiouslet me know if you want me to just start posting these as tickets >_< getting up there in amount now
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17:18.05[Ammo]Ackis you suck
17:18.15[Ammo]brain of yogg is not in babble yet
17:18.41AckisWorkyah it is
17:18.43AckisWorkI added it
17:18.50Gnarfozmuahahaha-BWAHAHAHAHAHA.
17:18.51[Ammo]but it's not in babble
17:18.53Gnarfozas yogg would say
17:18.56AckisWorkoh fuck
17:19.00[Ammo]due to the retarded translation crap
17:19.03AckisWorknev has to run his script
17:19.09Gnarfoztranslation crap is good, don't diss it
17:19.10Gnarfoz;p
17:19.12[Ammo]so revert that before I revert your ass to oblivion
17:19.29AckisWorkI'll just get nev to run his script, then you can do other things to my ass
17:19.43Fisker-yay libram of discord
17:20.22[Ammo]and that's why the bloody translation system is a pile of poo
17:20.30[Ammo]I'll just revert your changes until babble is updated
17:20.40AckisWorkbleh ok :P
17:20.43Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r207 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua:
17:20.46RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
17:20.48[Ammo]oh you're in uck
17:20.51Repo10libbabble-creaturetype-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r52 LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0.lua:
17:20.54RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
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17:20.58nevcairielyou still need to poke bigwigs to get it to repackage
17:21.32AckisWorkty nev
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17:22.05Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r5670 README.txt: touching Ackis ass with a cattleprod for repackage
17:22.11nevcairiel[Ammo]: its alot better then having the freaking translators break the code every other day
17:22.17[Ammo]shrug
17:22.23[Ammo]it sucks balls and this is one of the reasons
17:22.54Axodiousi’m just gonna start posting tickets for these, most of it is just little things usually spell specific
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17:25.35yoshimoAckisWork , what do you use the colored "unknown" for in your new yogg.module?
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17:27.10AckisWorkwhen brain health isn't known
17:28.01waallenArgh, you can't move the Bigwigs bars anchor out of the screen anymore :(
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17:28.56Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5671 Ulduar/XT-002.lua:
17:28.59RepoBigWigs: Ulduar/YoggSaron: Remove the void zone. seems really unnecessary..
17:30.23Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn * r200 / (3 files in 1 directory): clean up unused libs from pkgmeta/toc
17:33.47Repo10cnf: 03Ackis 07master * v3.11-3-g8cf548d / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits]
17:33.51Repo8cf548d: Fix a few merge issues.
17:33.53Repo09012c7: Fix .pkgmeta
17:33.56Repofb74128: Update docs/pkgmeta/toc
17:34.20Axodiousthere, lots of a tickets for you Adirelle
17:34.51Adirellewonderful -.-
17:35.12Axodious;x
17:35.39Fisker-slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout
17:35.46Adirelleer... how do you hex someone in your party ? CM ?
17:35.52Axodiousduel
17:35.53AckisWorkhmm I have some tags in CNF that are fucked up... I did a local delete of them but how to I push that to the server to delete those tags so the packager stops trying to make them?
17:36.13Axodiouswent to test the cast yells for it and it was whispering the person i dueled
17:36.22Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r170 / (2 files in 1 directory): SKG :
17:36.25Repo- testing lqtc function handler argument differentiation in setcell
17:37.14Axodiousmost of the tickets are easy things to fix ~_~ but theres a couple of big ones there
17:37.14AdirelleI'd probably add an check not to whisper to target you can attack
17:37.49Axodiousi just turned off whispering for that specific spell, there really shouldn’t be a time where you need to whisper the hexed target
17:38.15Adirelleall outputs are enabled by default
17:38.24Axodiousah
17:38.39Axodiouser wait
17:38.46Axodioushex was one of the ones you added by default
17:38.48Adirellethere is already a check in the whisper module that should have prevented to whisper to enemy
17:39.15Axodiousthen i guess it’s bugged :o
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17:39.25Axodiousparty members ignoring it or something
17:40.46Adirelleit checked UnitCanCooperate, but it seems you can always cooperate with party members, even when duelling them
17:41.32Adirelleabout ticket #3 (bloodlust), the broadcast follows the global party/raid setting
17:41.32Axodiouswhoa, ckk tickets page auto refresh? :O
17:42.17Axodiousyeah, i thought something like that, is there anyway  around that?
17:42.32Axodiousi fixed it in CY1 by manually editting the lua file for shamans
17:42.40Adirellehrm, you set the global option to party onle ?
17:42.42Adirelleonly*
17:42.45Axodiousnope
17:43.05Adirelleyou kept the default "raid or party" ?
17:43.11Axodiousyep
17:43.15Axodiousdidn’t touch anything in globals
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17:44.03Adirelleso it should use /ra, I guess something is borken
17:44.37Repo10cnf: 03Ackis 04v3.06 *  /: [TAG DELETED]
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17:44.47Axodiouswell, it was the same in cy1 if that helps
17:44.49Repo10cnf: 03Ackis 04v3.04 *  /: [TAG DELETED]
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17:45.23Adirelleyes, but it was done on purpose in cy1 (pre-LK I mean)
17:45.40Adirellein cy2 all announces should follow the global setting
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17:46.16Adirelleprovided you enabled chat broadcast and group in the announce settings
17:46.44Axodiouser
17:46.45Axodioushang on
17:46.49Axodiousi think im retarded
17:47.09Axodiousyeah o a,
17:47.10Axodiouser
17:47.11Axodiousyeah i am
17:47.20Axodiousi wasnt in a raid when i tested it
17:47.20Axodiouslol
17:47.51Adirelle...
17:48.00Axodious<_>
17:48.33Axodiousit was stuck in my head from cy1, so when i sawa it cast in party i immediatly thought it was for the same reasoning
17:48.37Fisker-QQ
17:48.43Fisker-i got too much expertise and hit
17:49.59Repo10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r38 / (2 files in 2 directories): Options: items should be allowed in announce names.
17:50.00durcynthere's irony in there somewhere
17:50.03RepoSink_Whisper: extra check not to whisper to units you can both cooperate and attack (duel).
17:52.45Repo10cnf: 03Ackis 07master * v3.11-5-g31beb76 /: [+2 commits]
17:52.48Repo31beb76: Null commit to see if things are still screwed.
17:52.51Repoab508b7: Null commit to see if things are still screwed.
17:53.24brodrahildurcyn: i think his expertise stopped scaling a loooong time ago
17:53.29brodrahildurcyn: hyuk hyuk hyuk?
17:53.50durcynno, terrible joke
17:53.55brodrahil:(
17:53.59Axodiousupdated the profile copying one with an error report, it seems to be related to different classes
17:54.08Axodiousie copying from a warlock to a shaman
17:55.43Jyggacan somebody give me an heads up on outdated fubar plugins not beeing shown on fubar yet beeing loaded ?
17:56.12JyggaXArt doesnt do anything too apparently
17:56.40PrimerAckis: You still work on IHML?
17:56.45Repo10cnf: 03Ackis 04v3.2 *  /: [TAG DELETED]
17:56.52Repo10cnf: 03Ackis 04v3.2 * 5a51c93 /: [new tag] Tagging as v3.2
17:56.58AckisWorkPrimer: yes
17:57.04PrimerIf so, shouldn't IHML make the default macro come back once it switched to the pvp macro?
17:57.21AckisWorki thought it did
17:57.59durcynJygga: fubar itself is outdated, irony!
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17:59.28PrimerAckisWork: let me make 100% sure this is the case
17:59.50AckisWorkk
18:01.03Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r859 / (2 files in 2 directories):
18:01.06Repo- Added shaman set bonuses, totems, glyphs, corrected coefficients, updated talents
18:01.57JyggaFuBar 3.6 itself is shown as up to date ;)
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18:02.21Jyggabut i think i just solved the issue ...
18:03.23durcynJygga: no, the toc is fine, but fubarplugin is so deprecated it hurts
18:03.53vhaarrwhat's the easiest add to leave up on freya?
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18:04.02vhaarrwe're doing it with 20 people zz wts exams
18:04.45durcyni'd say brightleaf
18:04.50durcynroots and tremor are both annoying
18:04.52Axodiouswe leave stone whatever
18:05.01Axodiouswith the tremor
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18:09.35Repo- next dewdrop conversion - classchooser
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18:24.12ckknightwould anyone else like to help judge http://beta.wowace.com/contests/1-test-contest/ ?
18:24.34durcyncan i judge my own entry? ;)
18:24.37ckknightno
18:24.41ckknighteveryone else but your own
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18:31.37Megalonit's judgement day
18:32.06Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r172 SKG_GUI_List.lua: SKG :
18:32.09Repo- argument fix
18:33.32Fisker-this is why we can't have nice things ckknight
18:33.51ckknight...are you asking to be a judge, Fisker-?
18:34.48durcyncurse subscriber #1 is too busy to judge your petty contests.
18:35.03ckknight:P
18:35.04Odlawwhat about if it works, just add it to a raffle.
18:36.10Fisker-how do you join ckknight? :3
18:36.24ckknightjoin what?
18:36.30ckknightfor judges, you must be appointed
18:36.37Fisker-doing entries
18:36.42ckknightto enter a contest, you have to submit during the open timeframe (now expired)
18:37.06Fisker-i hate you
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18:38.29nevcairielanyone know a video player that can show a directx overlay over wow for ingame video goodness while doing something boring? =P
18:39.17Axodiousi just use 2 monitors :D
18:39.22Brunersuhm, cant they all?
18:39.23rubiksame
18:39.31rubikmonitors dirt cheap these days
18:39.43nevcairieli don't want to turn my head all the time
18:39.48Brunerstwo monitors and window mode!
18:40.46nevcairieli was just looking for a simple way to watch a vid inside wow :P
18:40.54rubikthere was a deal for a 23" samsung 1920x1080 monitor for $161 shipped
18:40.59pentium166You could probably find a program that pins other programs on top of all windows
18:41.02Axodiousi know!~
18:41.05brodrahilnevcairiel: just play peggle
18:41.06Axodiousget a monitor with PiP!
18:41.06Aeyan|I always figured unless I went with a 3 monitor setup, it would bug me to be looking offcenter all the time
18:41.07Axodiouslol
18:41.16pentium166assuming the video will actually display properly with a game behind it
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18:42.57pentium166winamp might actually be able to do that natively
18:43.27nevcairielah it works with media player classic as well
18:43.34nevcairieljust had to hide its controls to make it look good
18:44.04Gnarfozyeah, MPC is awesome for what you want
18:44.20Gnarfozand indeed, every player that has always on top functionality would have done it ;)
18:44.22AeyanYeah, I used to use the minimal preset view and watch stuff in the corner when I farmed tradeskill stuff
18:44.30GnarfozAeyan: exactly :D
18:45.16Gnarfozthere used to be "WoWVid", basically a resizable frame that was in the "overlay color" so you could play back overlay video and it would appear in that frame
18:45.19rubiki watch my slingbox pretty often but it's on the 2nd monitor, to the right of my main/WoW monitor
18:45.24Gnarfozbut that was totally unnecessary ;>
18:46.07Fisker-hmm
18:46.29Fisker-the keepers in ulduar (The 2 giants thingy) didn't use to have a cast time for the spheres did they?
18:47.00Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r860 / (3 files in 2 directories):
18:47.03Repo- Fixed Ferocious Bite calculation and added 30 energy maximum
18:47.06Repo- Added flametongue weapon (every rank counts as max rank for now, also works only in enUS)
18:47.09Repo- Fixed windfury somewhat
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18:48.53Gnarfozcould probably use a ban on that dcc exploiter there ^^
18:49.32Fisker-hah
18:49.33Fisker-lol
18:49.40brodrahil...............
18:49.42Fisker-just gonna use it on robotusch
18:49.42brodrahilinbefore ban
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18:49.47Fisker-in b4 naw
18:49.47GnarfozIBTL! xD
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18:49.54Fisker-xD
18:49.58Fisker-he's gonna be mad
18:50.00brodrahilahaha
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18:51.38brodrahilslaps Fisker- around a bit with a large trout
18:51.44brodrahilBAD FISKER
18:51.51Fisker-:(
18:51.56brodrahilanyway
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18:52.05brodrahilpeople should use a real irc client like irssi
18:52.17brodrahil~_~
18:52.18purlSTOP DOING THAT!
18:52.18Gnarfozit's probably not their client that's doing it
18:52.21brodrahil:(
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18:53.04Gnarfozat least the last time this fad came up it was norton internet security or something (ok, I know some of those guys there are linux users, so probably not, but hey, who knows)
18:53.15Gagoriansigh, fail.
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18:57.24Pneumatuspvp flagging at thorim is annoying as hell :<
18:57.44Gnarfozwhat?
18:57.45Gnarfoz:>
18:57.58Pneumatuspeople randomly get pvp flagged at the start of p3
18:58.05Gnarfozso?
18:58.05GnarfozoO
18:58.12Gnarfozalso since when does thorim have 3 phases
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18:58.14Pneumatusso, it fucks up raid buffing
18:58.24Brunersthat was fixed two years ago ?
18:58.27Gnarfozhow does a pvp flag fuck up raid buffing oO
18:58.29Pneumatussince p1 is before you enter the gauntlet
18:58.38Gnarfozokay, if you count that, hehe
18:58.43Pneumatusbecause raid buffs dont hit pvp flagged players
18:58.47Gnarfoz???
18:58.48Gnarfozbs
18:58.55Brunersthat was an issue two years ago
18:59.05Pneumatusand stil exists
18:59.12GnarfozFFA pvp I could understand because they're actually hostile then
18:59.49Gnarfozbut I'm quite sure raid buffs worked fine on pvp flagged players... because you're pvp flagged 24/7 on pvp servers
19:00.02Pneumatus...
19:00.24Pneumatusif you are not flagged, and you raidbuff on someone that isnt flagged, anyone that IS flagged wont get the buff
19:00.32Gnarfozah, hm
19:00.42GnarfozI can see how that situation would never have come up for me, then
19:00.43Gnarfozhehe
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19:03.20kadrahilThere she stood in the street
19:03.25kadrahilbah mt
19:04.46Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-9-g4584370 / (5 files in 3 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
19:04.49Repo4584370: Add option to toggle spec based stuff on/off.
19:04.52Repo5a31a55: WHen we swap to the default macro, we now pick based on talent spec.
19:04.55Repo00ecf9c: Update formatting, and start the dual spec based default macro
19:04.58Repo7a47cb8: Make the macro switch back to default when we don't have opposite faction targeted.
19:04.59PrimerCan someone validate some code for me?
19:05.00Primerdistance = math_sqrt ((((tx - px) * ZoneWidth) ^ 2) + (((ty - py) * ZoneHeight) ^ 2))
19:05.00Pneumatusany of you lot done hodir hard on 25man?
19:05.04Primerthat seem sound?
19:05.22Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * 2.4Beta-10-g7d2c3d5 IHML.toc: [+1 commit] Update version
19:05.43PrimerAckis, I love you
19:05.58durcynPneumatus: yeah, why
19:06.05AckisWorktest it out for me please, going to grab some lunch and then I'll fix whatever is broken ;)
19:06.06Pneumatushow many healers did you take?
19:06.21Primerwill do
19:06.31Pneumatuswe've got 6 and im wondering if that's 1 too many really
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19:07.06GnarfozAckisWork: 'nother IHML thingy: it has a macro for the tournament daily w/ frog kissing... but the subzone it triggers on is really badly shaped, so you can't use it 70% of the time because IHML switches back to some other macro :\
19:07.12durcynPneumatus: we used 6, 2 priests 2 druids 1 paladin 1 shaman
19:07.22nevcairielI really hate Ulduar in that regard, alot of hard modes just require insane damage, and you cut down on healers more and more
19:07.23durcynPneumatus: but we also had a mind control going
19:07.39nevcairielpoor healers always sit out =(
19:07.43Gnarfozmind control? on hodir?
19:07.47Pneumatusnah, they dualspec :P
19:07.48durcynuh
19:07.51nevcairieli mean look at freaking yogg-saron, 4 healers, ffs
19:07.54durcynoh, i'm looking at thorim
19:08.08Pneumatusyeh, i was talking about thorim :)
19:08.16Gnarfoznevcairiel: we don't scale back healers on yogg, yet :<
19:08.17Pneumatuswe do yogg with 5 healers
19:08.25nevcairielwe did 4 and 5
19:08.26Gnarfozmaybe we should, moar dps on phase 1 adds
19:08.33Pneumatuswe dont really have the dps do do it with 6/7
19:08.35nevcairielbut 4 wasnt even slightly hard to heal
19:08.40nevcairielso its silly
19:08.43PrimerAnyone know a good way to gauge distance in the game? I'm thinking one of those AOE things you put on the ground, like shadowfury
19:08.56Primeris there any _better_ way?
19:09.00GnarfozI don't know if we simply are too slow to kill them or if people are still wandering into clouds... but we're getting overwehlmed by phase 1 adds almost every try
19:09.08Pneumatusand yeh, 5 healers on yogg is more than enough for the amount of damage
19:09.15durcynGnarfoz: with mimiron active?
19:09.19GnarfozPrimer: what for, exactly? there's coordinates
19:09.26Gnarfozdurcyn: yes, full easy mode :<
19:10.08Gnarfozdurcyn: well, it's 25man, so it's not just the 10man group that's been clearing ulduar for a while now, but at least 15 other potential idiots, but it's really hard to track what the hell happens
19:10.17Gnarfoz...because you can't verify if someone triggered a cloud
19:10.24Gnarfozshakes fist at Blizzard
19:10.25nevcairielthen there is the XT hardmode, to make it easier you just stack more dps
19:10.27nevcairieland drop healers
19:10.33durcynPneumatus: anyway, looking at our last hodir hard mode kill, i see two resto druids, 3 healing priests (probably one was disc), a holy paladin, and a shaman
19:10.37nevcairielits so unfair for the healers =P
19:10.48Pneumatusblimey :o
19:11.09durcynthough worldoflogs could be showing me people who weren't in for that attempt, since it's flaky as hell lately
19:11.26Pneumatushealers having to sit annoys me no end though :<
19:11.27durcynhttp://worldoflogs.com/reports/4yeaySbuClUgpXuM/?s=9058&e=9264
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19:11.44Pneumatus(or dualspec, although often gets replaced by "real" dps)
19:12.00nevcairielwe only let our druid dual-spec that gathers the legendary pieces
19:12.03nevcairieleveryone else gets replaced
19:12.15Pneumatuswell, we only have a raid pool of like 30
19:12.37Pneumatus7 healers, 3 tanks and the rest dps
19:12.57nevcairielhow the hell do you manage with 7 healers if like 2 are out for a day? =P
19:13.19nevcairielwe have 9 healers right now and sometimes its hard to gather 6
19:13.32Pneumatuswe only have very few afks in the healer camp
19:13.39Stanzillawe have too many healers and lack range dps :(
19:13.48nevcairielour range dps just plain sucks
19:13.49nevcairielall of them
19:13.59nevcairielthey can't do proper dps on hard-mode vezax
19:14.06Pneumatuspretty much every fight can be done with 6 healers though, so we'd just get a dps to go healy
19:14.12Pneumatus(if we only had 5)
19:14.15Stanzillaour boomkins are shit
19:14.23nevcairielwe just got a new boomkin
19:14.26nevcairielhe sucks so much
19:14.29Stanzillarest can improve and dualspecc people are 99% fucking fail
19:14.32nevcairielgoing to cancel trial probably
19:14.39AckisWorkPrimer: back, did it blow up in your face?
19:14.56StanzillaI did ~12k dps on hodir and the dual specc shadow 6k :(
19:15.29AckisWorkdual spec stuff is hard imo :P
19:15.34AckisWorkI have 0 idea how to play shadow
19:15.40AckisWorkmy gear is 75% healing gear
19:15.42Stanzillapress 4 buttons
19:15.43Stanzillawin
19:15.44Stanzilla:(
19:15.44AeyanHehe
19:16.01AckisWorkI pulled about 2k dps on emalon and had no idea if that was good or bad
19:16.02rubikdual spec works great for me even though both specs are feral.. feral tanking and feral dps
19:16.06Pneumatusbad
19:16.08Pneumatusvery bad
19:16.12Stanzillaits hodir, you just run around spamming mind flay and keeping dots up
19:16.15Stanzillanot THAT hard
19:16.43AckisWorkhe did 6k dps, then he's 3x as good as me, and I'm a good player! :P
19:17.06nevcairieli never use my dualspec in raids
19:17.13nevcairielbut its awesome to just respec feral for dailys
19:17.26durcynspeaking of emalon
19:17.43AeyanThe opening rotation of shadow can be a little complicated
19:17.48durcynboth of our 25 groups got only pvp gear this week, did that happen to any of you guys?
19:18.08Pneumatuswe had 2/2 this week
19:18.10AckisWorkStanzilla: btw holy priest trinkets... I was thinking of using the two +9000 spirit ones
19:18.10Stanzillanah, we had 1 pve thing
19:18.25StanzillaAckisWork: the -mana cost one is imba
19:18.34nevcairieli want that one too
19:18.34AckisWorkaye
19:18.36nevcairieldidnt drop yet =(
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19:18.41AckisWorkthe other one is hella nice
19:18.50Pneumatusi want the +>9k int one
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19:19.20Stanzillapandora's plea?
19:19.24Pneumatusthats the one
19:19.32Pneumatusi need more mana
19:19.36Stanzillabetter for disc priests
19:19.37Pneumatus27k isnt enough :<
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19:19.58Pneumatus<-- disc
19:20.06Stanzillathought so :P
19:20.07AeyanViva disc
19:20.39Pneumatusdisc is ok, but you only ever really want one :P
19:21.10Stanzillaand nobody needs shamans :D
19:21.36Pneumatusour healing pool is 1 disc priest, 2 holy priests, 2 holy palas, 1 resto sham and 1 resto druid
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19:21.49NeoTronI just want to get yogg dead
19:21.51NeoTronthat is all
19:22.08AckisWorkwow NeoTron I've raided 2 days in ulduar and even I have yogg dead! ;)
19:22.15Pneumatusof which 2 of us priests dualspec shadow, and one pally ret
19:22.24AeyanWell, I only run with a casual guild so calling their unoptimized is a bit of an understatement
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19:22.32NeoTronAckisWork: I'm sure you then came with a guild that had him already downed
19:22.38AeyanThere's one other disc priest and I outheal him by over 2x
19:22.47AeyanSometimes I top the damn heal chart and that ain't right, heh.
19:22.51AckisWorkNeoTron: nah, they hadn't got yogg down yet til I showed up! :D
19:23.00NeoTronand yes it's fucking frustrating when you get even to phase 3 and then fail to fricking get past phase 1 for over an hour because people are being retards
19:23.04Pneumatusi come last, without exception
19:23.16AeyanI SHOULDN'T be first
19:23.34rubikyogg phase 1 clouds need nerfing badly
19:23.37Pneumatusno, if you are coming first as disc then the other healers seriously fail
19:23.41NeoTronwe had this disc priest that tried so damn hard to tell us how good he was
19:23.42rubikit's fucking bullshit for melee to avoid them
19:23.51AckisWorkNeoTron: it didn't seem like a hard fight, a lot less coordination than pre-BC stuff
19:23.52nevcairielnot really
19:23.58NeoTronrubik: it's trivial as melee. ranged aer the ones always triggering them
19:23.59Pneumatuslearn how they move, and avoid
19:24.00StanzillaAeyan: topping the heal chart as disc is...major fail :(
19:24.00nevcairieljust stand at the entrance and move the mobs smart =P
19:24.06AeyanNo kidding
19:24.17AeyanBut like I said, the price of running with a casual guild =P
19:24.20rubikyeah, going to try the 'stand at entrance' way
19:24.33NeoTronAckisWork: pre-bc? orly? like c'thun? lawl
19:24.41AckisWorkNeoTron: lol exactly ;)
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19:24.53nevcairielcthun was so awesome
19:24.56NeoTronpre-bc was not harder
19:25.01NeoTronpre-bc was even more people to be stupid
19:25.03NeoTron:)
19:25.44AckisWorkmy gf and I went into it without knowing what to do (it == ulduar).  We just followed the pattern of move out of shit and we did very well, only time we died was on the robot thing in its last phase because we didn't know the he did dick lasers, and I died on the one where you have to stand on snow because I didn't realize I had to stand on snow
19:26.11nicoli_sive never even raided and even i know to stand on the snow
19:26.19AckisWork:P
19:26.40AeyanMy guild gets shutdown by Kologarn
19:26.42AeyanGood times
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19:26.59rubikfinally one-shot Mimiron-10 last night for the first time (usually takes us 2-3 tries).. felt good
19:27.13AckisWorkI even got a T8.5 helm!
19:27.19AeyanHuzzah
19:27.31AckisWorkbtw which pieces can you buy w/ badges?
19:27.44Pneumatushelm and chest
19:27.51durcynfor you, AckisWork, a helmet.
19:27.51Pneumatus58 badges
19:27.57AckisWorkbleh
19:27.59NeoTronAckisWork: seriously, most of ulduar is not hard if you do it with people that know what to do. just like nothing else is :P
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19:28.41AckisWorknothing is hard ever!
19:28.44Axodiousquestion, what does !autoshot actually mean/do
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19:28.49Axodiousin a macro
19:28.56AckisWorkbut think vael 1.0 was hard even if people knew what to do
19:28.58AckisWorkAxodious: toggles it
19:29.10rubikwhat's the next easiest 10-man hardmode after XT? (we one-shot that one last night)
19:29.12Axodiouscould the same be used for like heroic strike?
19:29.13Caleb|2how about doing hard modes then ? :D
19:29.26Pneumatussteelbreaker last
19:29.27AckisWorkAxodious: no, only things like autoshot/wanding
19:29.29AeyanThink it was linked in here, but this made my day back then: http://casualcorps.com/pics/fun/Trout-notes.jpg
19:29.31Axodiousk
19:29.32Pneumatusis pretty easy
19:29.44Fisker-account merges
19:29.46Fisker-GIEEEEEEEEV
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19:30.09rubikPneumatus: ahh ok.. might try that next, thanks
19:30.36Pneumatusyou'll need 3 healers though, one of whom can dispell fusion punch
19:30.54rubikAxodious: there was an addon that used macros to toggle Heroic Strike/Maul/DK ability like that (i.e. !Heroic Strike, !Maul, etc.)
19:31.21Axodiousi can just do /cast
19:31.46GnarfozAeyan: someone should re-do that for ulduar ;D
19:31.51AeyanTotally
19:32.30rubikAxodious: yeah, you can.. just add "/cast !Heroic Strike" as the first line on a bunch of your abilities
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19:33.42NeoTronAckisWork: never understood people having issues with vael
19:33.56NeoTronAckisWork: it was a trivial figh compared to half the others in BWL
19:34.17VonhintenHOME`How do your tanks deal with Phase 4 of Mimiron, our tank keeps getting killed by the barrage as he's trying to move the tank around
19:34.25VonhintenHOME`And I've watched it.. it shouldn't have killed him
19:34.28NeoTronVonhintenHOME`: move out of it?
19:34.38NeoTronstrafe probably
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19:34.52rubiktanking P4 is a nightmare.. our DK just strafes very slowly i think
19:35.16VonhintenHOME`He's tried, but the boss keeps trying to side step him or gets behind him, and either melee dies trying to run out, or he dies
19:35.25nevcairielyou can just rotate him
19:35.26AckisWorkNeoTron: it was hard when you had 1 hour to do him a night
19:35.43VonhintenHOME`You can't rotate mobs anymore... Blizzard totally fucked up mob movement
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19:36.12VonhintenHOME`Unless there's some trick to it that we're missing
19:36.23NeoTronAckisWork: well I wasn't there then. in either case, Yogg isn't an easy fight. multi-phase fights are naturally harder - see mimiron and yogg
19:36.27nevcairielworks fine for
19:36.29nevcairielus
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19:36.34nevcairielbut didnt look so hard =P
19:37.40AckisWorkNeoTron: yogg is substantially easier than c'thun, easier than vael was, easier the m'uru, both sets of twins, huhu, etc :P not saying it's a cake walk but I went in there without seeing it before and had no issues
19:38.29VonhintenHOME`I wonder if it has something to do with the tank being a human female... he's fully engulfed by the tank's front when he's tanking
19:38.32NeoTronAckisWork: muru took us over two months (part of it was personell issues of course). yogg will not take multiple months
19:38.36VonhintenHOME`the hit box is totally fucked
19:38.46NeoTronnot saying it's trivial but few guilds would go in on their first night and kill him in an hour
19:38.59NeoTronI think it even took Ensidia (w/o prior knowledge of course) like 7 hrs to down him
19:39.14NeoTroncomparing LK to BC or pre-BC is stupid
19:39.29NeoTroncompare Ulduar hard modes and you get something more like it
19:39.36NeoTrondo yogg wihout keepers and tell me it's easy
19:39.39nevcairielLK was supposed to be accessible
19:39.40AckisWorkyou're saying it's a hard fight, I'm saying it isn't... 7 hours for a boss is nothing :P
19:39.52nevcairielyou can't compare the "easy-mode" encounters with previous content
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19:40.30Gnarfozand I think that's a good thing
19:40.31Gnarfoz:>
19:40.55AckisWorkI don't even know what NeoTron and I are arguing over :P
19:41.23VonhintenHOME`So question, why does bigwigs not do things that dbm does?  Like put up health sync bars for the triplets on Freya, etc ?
19:41.46Gnarfozbecause big-wigs was created out of the desire for non-intrusive bossmods
19:41.50nevcairielbecause dbm is for dumb people
19:41.54NeoTronAckisWork: hard fight relative to Ulduar obviously
19:41.54nevcairieland bigwigs for smart people
19:41.59AckisWorkit's built so you can get plug in modules
19:42.03NeoTron7 hours for the best guild in the world is not insignificant
19:42.10VonhintenHOME`lol
19:42.20Gnarfozif you recall back in vanilla, all there was was CT_RaidAssist, and it would spam /rs (there was no /rw at that time) with stupid shit all the time
19:43.05NeoTronAckisWork: the issue is you saying you strolled in ulduar and killed Yogg on your second day there and say that therefor it's trivial... when inf act I'm sure the guild itself has been there more than two days (in Ulduar) so it's a nonsensical argument
19:43.12GnarfozDBM has more of a "make the boss as easy as possible for you" approach :>
19:43.30VonhintenHOME`Yeah, I can see how that would be totally idiotic...
19:43.36VonhintenHOME`oh wait... no, that's fucking stupid
19:43.36GnarfozNeoTron: also, Ackis has prior highest end raiding experience ^^
19:43.45NeoTronGnarfoz: I am aware
19:43.48GnarfozVonhintenHOME`: gtfo and use DBM then
19:43.54VonhintenHOME`lol
19:44.03GnarfozVonhintenHOME`: if you need everything spelled out for you, then DBM is for you
19:44.05NeoTron"I killded Kil'jaeden and tooked the staffs and then quitted lols!"
19:44.10AckisWorkNeoTron: I don't know how many days they were in there, I'm just saying it was NOT hard to avoid all the shit, watch my insanity, etc.
19:44.12GnarfozNeoTron: yeah, hehe
19:44.14AckisWorkexactly!
19:44.22AckisWork(I also got the m'uru trinket that week)
19:44.25VonhintenHOME`Sounds like you guys have practiced this speech
19:44.28NeoTronAckisWork: the difficulty is never for "you" to avoid it. it's for "everyone" to do it
19:44.49NeoTronI don't have an issue - really I don't. I stand in the middle, avoiding clouds while dpsing as melee
19:44.50GnarfozVonhintenHOME`: "you guys", basically there's two people who answered you, none of which is a BigWigs dev, heh
19:45.00NeoTronthen you have dudes doing ranged dps just standing there
19:45.06nevcairielit still comes up every other week
19:45.09GnarfozVonhintenHOME`: also, it's one of the more common questions that come up, we're just relaying the answer :P
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19:45.42nevcairielMaybe i should write a addon that displays those health bars
19:45.48nevcairieljust to shut people up
19:45.54AckisWorkNeoTron: all I'm saying is that compared to the other encounters that had environmental effects, the stuff in ulduar has more of them, but they seemed trivial to deal with for someone who came in without any prior knowledge of the fights
19:45.59NeoTronnevcairiel: it's called Magis Targets
19:46.02Gnarfoznevcairiel: I've thought about it too, generic boss health monitor like KalecgosHealth
19:46.04AckisWorknevcairiel: that's what I did with kalecgos health :P
19:46.21GnarfozI've got MagicTargets anyway. Do you want DBM to spam you "less dmg on Snaplasher NOW", too?
19:46.38nevcairielNeoTron: magic targets shows all adds that i might not care about too, doesnt it?
19:46.49NeoTronnevcairiel: if you got other adds up then you're doing it wrong :P
19:46.59AckisWorkps NeoTron: http://www.wowprogress.com/character/us/illidan/Ackis <-- mah staff!
19:46.59nevcairielwell some fights have important adds
19:47.01NeoTronbut yes it shows the raids' targets
19:47.02nevcairieland not-so-omportant
19:47.18VonhintenHOME`It's not just those bars, there are a number of differences between the two... and we keep getting into arguments about it in guild
19:47.40GnarfozVonhintenHOME`: well? the solution is easy: don't force people to use either + grow up
19:47.42NeoTronVonhintenHOME`: does it matter, really? do you really care wtf people run?
19:47.44Gnarfoz= no more arguments
19:47.52VonhintenHOME`We don't force them, that's why there's arguements
19:48.00Gnarfozsee 2nd part of my suggestion, then
19:48.01Gnarfoz:D
19:48.04nevcairielwhen someone asks me, i tell them to use bigwigs, if someone misses some important event and says his mod didnt tell him, i yell at him for not using bigwigs .. but if they manage with DBM, let them use it =P
19:48.34NivFreakbigwigs gives false warnings on mimiron for barrage
19:48.37NivFreakit makes me sad
19:48.47nevcairielits not bigwigs fault
19:48.48durcynuh
19:48.48[Ammo]it didn't for me 2 mins ago
19:48.50nevcairielmimiron is crazy
19:48.50durcynno, the boss bugs out
19:48.56NivFreaknevcairiel: DBM figured out how to deal with it
19:48.56nevcairielhe starts casting barrage
19:48.58nevcairielthen stops
19:48.58NeoTronNivFreak: it's mimiron that starts barrage and stops
19:48.59Gnarfozif people are fighting over bossmod choice, someone in your guild with the authority to do so should probably tell them to shut the hell up and let everyone make their own choice ;D
19:49.02NivFreakNeoTron: it gives no false warning
19:49.10NeoTronNivFreak: then it delays the warning
19:49.11Pneumatushmm, hodir hardmode bigwigs bar should be dissapearing when the hardmode is activated, shouldnt it?
19:49.15SaladForkHonestly, the only reason I switched from BigWigs to DBM is the "Run away little girl" sound. Saved my ass on Sarth more than BigWigs did with a "ding" or a "boink", =P
19:49.17NeoTronso the true warning comes a bit later
19:49.24NivFreakNeoTron: I'd imagine, by maybe .5 seconds ;)
19:49.43GnarfozSaladFork: it's not like you can't configure BigWigs to use that sound in like 30 seconds time
19:49.46durcyni wish i could reach through the internet and strangle anyone who thinks dbm is worth a wet slap
19:49.54NeoTronGnarfoz: you can't do per-event sounds
19:49.55SaladForkGnarfoz - I can, but I can't set it to only use that sound for events in which I msut run away
19:49.59Gnarfozs/config/not config/
19:50.05NeoTronI doubt you'd want "run away little girl" for every single events
19:50.06NivFreakI'm back on the bigwigs band wagon, but I'm still irritated about the refusal to have mob healthbars for shit like freya/thaddius etc
19:50.07NeoTronthat'd be frickign annoying
19:50.11SaladForkTherefore I would hear it all the time for events in which I don't run, and then I start ignoring it...
19:50.20GnarfozNeoTron: for all different levels of messages
19:50.21nevcairielthey started to over-use the sound alot in ulduar, NeoTron
19:50.40SaladForkNiv - For Thaddius I find DBM is usually really inaccurate. I just focus the other mob, =P
19:50.42NivFreakdurcyn: I've used both a good amount, trashing either is silly
19:50.52NivFreakSaladFork: huh?
19:50.55GnarfozSaladFork: yay for shitty implementations?
19:50.58SaladForkLol
19:51.02VonhintenHOME`Man, you guys are full of insulting comments today... you know what, I don't give a fuck, if you don't think health bars on Freya triplet trash are a good idea, I'm just gonna chock it up to Tekkub-like stupidity "I don't feel like it.. fuck off"
19:51.03NivFreakit's always been spot on for me
19:51.05SaladForkNev - Everytime it's used, you have to actively turn around and run.
19:51.06Gnarfozwhy would it be inaccurate
19:51.19nevcairielSaladFork: not true
19:51.23nevcairielunless you're a melee
19:51.25GnarfozVonhintenHOME`: entitlement much?
19:51.27NivFreakVonhintenHOME`: that's my perspective on it too
19:51.28VonhintenHOME`lol
19:51.29NivFreak;)
19:51.36tekkubwhat the fuck do I have to do with anything?
19:51.41Gnarfozjust write a plugin for it if you want it so badly
19:51.49NeoTronindeed
19:51.54SaladForkNev - True, I don't always have to run when Brundir casts Overload, but it's a situation where one might need to run.
19:51.59NeoTronVonhintenHOME`: why the hell wouldn't you just add it yourself, seriously
19:52.01SaladForkThe unique "RUN AWAY" sound enforces a quick mental range check
19:52.05NeoTronpeople did it for kalecgos you know
19:52.19NeoTronSaladFork: man if people fail overload they are fail
19:52.25NivFreakit's just silly that we don't have a common implementation
19:52.27NeoTronwe have the tank call "overload" and that's it
19:52.34NeoTronare people really that bad they need some frickign warning for that?
19:52.40Gnarfozand kalecgos was a hard case because of the split realm weirdness with him being friendly and all
19:52.42SaladForkNeo - Sure, then let's have the tank call everything and ditch DBM and BigWigs, =P
19:52.47NivFreakNeoTron: but all the lightning flashing, it's hard to see it!
19:52.48NivFreak;P
19:52.52[Ammo]bigwigs doesn't tell you how to play, that's all
19:52.54[Ammo]dbm does
19:52.59[Ammo]and 'run away' falls under that category
19:53.08NeoTronSaladFork: in short, sure
19:53.09[Ammo]use whatever you want
19:53.29GnarfozNeoTron: I spend half of my time in raids reading out bossmod text aloud because people amazingly are too stupid to do it themselves. tunnel-vision ftw
19:53.43SaladForkGnar - and that's exactly why a unique sound for a unique type of event kicks ass
19:53.45Gnarfoz[Ammo]: Sentinel Blast - INTERRUPT!
19:53.58winkiller3
19:53.59SaladForkSentinal Blast is just silly to call though, it's ALWAYS during a fear
19:54.03SaladForkYOu're feared - you need to interrupt
19:54.10GnarfozDBM not only has a warning for it
19:54.18Gnarfozthe warning also tells you what to do!
19:54.22Gnarfozyou should know that yourself ^^
19:54.33NeoTronright
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19:54.41NeoTronsee that's a good argument against DBM
19:54.45StanzillaDBM should highlight the kick button, too
19:54.49nevcairiellol
19:54.49GnarfozStanzilla: win
19:54.53Stanzillawould make it easier for all the no brainers :D
19:54.58nevcairiellike i said
19:55.02nevcairielDBM is for the dumb people
19:55.04GnarfozStanzilla: DBM should also integrate NoSeeNoInterrupt ;>
19:55.05SaladForkScrew that, it should check your class and tell you which abilities you have that you can interrupt with, =P
19:55.06nevcairielbigwigs for the smart
19:55.07NeoTronnow what I don't like
19:55.18NeoTronis when I can't attribute proper blame
19:55.20Gnarfozand a kick rotation helper
19:55.24NeoTronyogg clouds is a good example
19:55.28StanzillaGnarfoz: and tell me to re-set my fear ward plx
19:55.34nevcairielyea yogg clouds need a combatlog event
19:55.36nevcairielor something
19:55.39GnarfozNeoTron: Yogg clouds are so making me angry because they can't be attributed
19:55.50GnarfozStanzilla: how about a damage meter?
19:55.57GnarfozStanzilla: oh and threat warnings.
19:56.00StanzillaGnarfoz: threat meter too
19:56.01Stanzilladamn :D
19:56.08NeoTronalso the other thing with yogg clouds, like with so much blizzard, is that the range of the trigger is larger than the size of the effect
19:56.20nevcairielthe whole idea of a threat-meter is about telling you how to play
19:56.25VonhintenHOME`I'm talking about useful pieces of information
19:56.33NeoTronI must admit
19:56.40VonhintenHOME`Not how to play, not shit that doesn't belong in a boss mod...
19:56.41NeoTronthreat meters aer ALMOST without use today
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19:56.51NeoTrononly exception is to see who does most threat for vigilance almost :P
19:56.55Gnarfozwell, this is all ABOUT what belongs in a bossmod
19:57.09SaladForkLol, only people who need to see threat other than their own are tanks and paladins, :D
19:57.13rubikeh, i don't know.. i kept pulling aggro off our DK MT last night.. dunno wtf was wrong with him
19:57.19NeoTronVonhintenHOME`: it's not useful to know sentinel blast is coming and needs to be interrupted
19:57.20rubik(me = cat druid)
19:57.23Gnarfozsadly with yogg clouds, it's the opposite... they seem to have a larger radius than they show on low spell details (blizz claimed you would always see everything you need to see even with low details)
19:57.31NeoTronrubik: you're a cat druid and you wonder? lol
19:57.35rubikhehe
19:57.37Stanzillacat druids are fucking OP
19:57.39Stanzilla:(
19:57.48VonhintenHOME`My rogue constantly pulls threat these days, especially on Hodir and Iron Council power ups
19:57.56GnarfozStanzilla: so true, we picked up some random hobo from /2 for ulduar10 last week and he fucking owned all of us in dps
19:57.57rubikbut i've been raiding with him for soooo long and i didn't use to pull aggro.. i think he changed his spec or something.
19:57.57NeoTronGnarfoz: no that's waht I mean. the trigger area is larger than the size of the clouds even on high details
19:58.04NeoTronso you trigger it without standing in it
19:58.08StanzillaGnarfoz: haha :D
19:58.11GnarfozNeoTron: oh, yeah, then we're saying the same thing
19:58.18SaladForkrubik - http://code.google.com/p/simulationcraft/wiki/SampleOutputT7
19:58.28NeoTronthey do that shit all the time
19:58.40NeoTronremember eye beams on illidan "but I wasn't standing in it" "yeah we, know, they do that"
19:58.52nevcairielthats just a simple rule
19:58.53rubikSaladFork: yeah.. is there one for 2-pc T7 + 2-pc T8? that should be even more dps
19:58.59nevcairielstand far away from them
19:59.04nevcairieldont tempt fate by running close
19:59.04SaladForkrubik - Anything after T7 is a WiP
19:59.12GnarfozRaiding is full of challenge... sometimes there is fire. You have to be NOT in the fire. ;p
19:59.14rubiki think the EJ people linked to a more up-to-date simulationcraft thingy
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20:00.38Stanzillaprobably made their own
20:00.56NeoTronI was a bit disappointed that the general blame addon didn't work properly and I didn't figure out why until he died :P
20:01.07durcynsorry, gosh.
20:01.16durcyni'll have my eyes checked one of these days
20:01.16SaladForkGnar - Actually, dont worry about it. It'll be nerfed soon
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20:02.29NeoTrondurcyn: heh. well didn't help that I kept crashing...
20:02.38NeoTronon the kill someone managed to heal him from like 85% to 100%
20:02.41NeoTrona single person
20:02.44NeoTronno one died but damn
20:03.14GnarfozSaladFork: everything will ;)
20:03.43GnarfozNeoTron: always fun. Failbot/boat is such a great concept. ;D
20:03.55GnarfozPrimer: ping
20:04.30NeoTronGnarfoz: StopHealingMobs wtf
20:04.30NeoTronerr
20:04.30NeoTronftw
20:04.30NeoTronthree letters, written backwards, has such a different meaning
20:04.40Gnarfoz@project stophealingmobs
20:04.41RepoGnarfoz: No project found that matches 'stophealingmobs'
20:04.44Gnarfozhm. :p
20:04.48durcyndashes, sir
20:05.12Gnarfozwell, "dashes" as a general rule only applied to pre-new-wowace projects that got autoconverted
20:05.20Gnarfoz@project stop-healing-mobs
20:05.20RepoGnarfoz: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/stop-healing-mobs/. StopHealingMobs. Game: WoW. durcyn (Manager/Author). Updated: 12 hours ago
20:05.38Gnarfozfor new ones, it's freely choosable ;>
20:05.50Gnarfozgah why do the links have to point to beta :p
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20:06.31NeoTronessentially it will report in a sink of your choice how much each person with mark healed general for
20:06.41NeoTronas the buff fades
20:06.53Gnarfoz(no need to explain, that's why I got myself the link :D)
20:07.26Gnarfozthis is simple enough to be in LibFail imho, hehe
20:07.49NeoTronisn't libfail typically a simple count?
20:07.54nevcairielits not always your own fail
20:07.59NeoTronnevcairiel: it is
20:08.02nevcairielwhen some idiot runs to you when you have the mark
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20:08.15Gnarfozit reports *who* healed
20:08.18Gnarfoznot who had the mark
20:08.22NeoTronGnarfoz: wrong
20:08.26Gnarfozwhy? :<
20:08.29NeoTronGnarfoz: the person with the mark is the one reported as the healer
20:08.31Repo10alttab: 03Ackis 04v1.4 * 5922ae2 /: [new tag] Tagging as v.14
20:08.34Gnarfozbad blizz, bad
20:08.35NeoTronbecause the HEALER is General
20:08.51durcyni suppose i could also count who took damage from mark during the duration
20:08.57durcynbut that's slightly more involved
20:08.58NeoTronthe whole reason this addon is needed is that both the damage and healing done is attributed to General Vezax
20:09.13Gnarfozthe whole reason it's needed is that people fail at movement! :D
20:09.14durcynhmm actually that's not a bad idea
20:09.54durcynsomething like "Mark of the Faceless on %s healed Vezax for %d (raidX: 9999, raidY: 42)"
20:10.21Gnarfozsounds delicious
20:10.42Funkeh`is there an api to get the server locale
20:10.59Gnarfozdon't think so, because they don't actually have one
20:11.04nevcairielthey do
20:11.06durcynthere's a cvar to get the login server
20:11.09rubikis mark of the faceless 25-man only or hard mode only or something?
20:11.17Gnarfoznevcairiel: what would they have one for?
20:11.20rubikor why do i not remember seeing it (all we do is 10-man raids)
20:11.22durcynrubik: no, it's a normal part of the fight on both 10 and 25
20:11.28rubikhmm.. weird
20:11.29durcynrubik: big green beams that heal the boss
20:11.29nevcairieldon't they throw a localized text your direction on login?
20:11.37nevcairielor is that in the client locale as well?
20:11.37Fisker-hey sexy Gnarfoz
20:11.39nevcairieli dont remember
20:11.42Gnarfozthey do, but why would they have a way to query that
20:11.46VonhintenHOME`Any thoughts on putting one of mimiron's parts into repair mode to keep it from executing its abilities while DPS gets the others down...
20:11.55Gnarfozit's in "server locale" alright, but why would the client care
20:11.56VonhintenHOME`could help keep our tank from having issues with barrage
20:12.01durcynVonhintenHOME`: nort worth it
20:12.06durcynthey heal to what, 40%?
20:12.12nevcairielGnarfoz: it wouldnt, but Funkeh` could listen for that event and detect server locale with that :D
20:12.15VonhintenHOME`back to 50 I think
20:12.22durcynyeah, definitely not worth it
20:12.30Gnarfoznevcairiel: well, but you know, API is designed around what Blizz needs etc ;)
20:12.45nevcairielthats why its not API
20:12.48Funkeh`nevcairiel, what vent?
20:12.50nevcairielbut listening to the chat frame :)
20:12.52Funkeh`event
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20:13.02Gnarfozwell, he would have to do language analysis then xD
20:13.07Gnarfozthe messages change ;)
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20:13.17nevcairielone line is always the same
20:13.19Gnarfozand no, there's not always a common "welcome to world of warcraft!" line in it
20:13.20Gnarfoznope.
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20:13.32nevcairiel"Welcome to the europeon world of warcraft servers" is like always in there
20:13.34Gnarfozseen plenty of times when that line was gone
20:13.54Gnarfozfirst line was "Arena-Saison 6 hat begonnen!" and then some other shit, but that line was gone
20:13.58Gnarfoz:\
20:13.59Funkeh`it doesn't do it on reloadui
20:14.03Gnarfozthat's bad, too
20:14.05nevcairielno it doesnt
20:14.09nevcairielbut you can save it in SV
20:14.13nevcairielservername - locale ref
20:14.23Gnarfozthat's probably as bad as just getting a list and keeping it up to date
20:14.24Funkeh`that's too complicated for what I wanted to do
20:14.35Funkeh`might as well just ask the user
20:14.48Gnarfozlocale dependant spam filtering?
20:14.56Funkeh`no...
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20:15.10Gnarfozbecause for example: I've never seen "Anal [item]" in chat, *ever*
20:15.16Gnarfozbecause it doesn't make sense at all in German
20:15.25SaladForklol
20:15.29nevcairieli don't even see the sense in english
20:15.33nevcairielits just stupid
20:15.42Gnarfozat least it's grammatically correct in english
20:15.48Gnarfozsometimes
20:15.51Gnarfoz:]
20:15.52AckisWorkAnal nevcairiel
20:15.54AckisWorkhah!
20:15.56ckknighthey, can you see the winners on http://beta.wowace.com/contests/1-test-contest/ ? (you shouldn't)
20:16.07Gnarfozwe have a winrar
20:16.31Fisker-LOL AckisWork
20:16.31SaladForkI don't see winners
20:16.31Gnarfozcan't see winners, but can see votes
20:16.43ckknightokay
20:17.10ckknightyou should see winners now
20:17.15ckknight(I marked the contest as finished)
20:17.25SaladForkYep.
20:17.31Fisker-your mom is finished
20:17.55Repo10sifter: 03Starinnia * r6 Sifter.lua: add deDE translations
20:18.09Repo10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r78 / (2 files in 2 directories): update deDE
20:18.22Repo10xperl: 03s8095324 * r294 / (17 files in 17 directories): XPerl: .TOC update for zhTW
20:20.40ramozckknight: oi, i think theres a bug with the css when i try to log in on beta.wowace
20:20.54ckknightI haven't done the login page yet
20:21.06Gnarfozckknight: any idea what I can run smariot's entry in on windows that will show me the glory? :P
20:21.16ckknightcygwin?
20:21.17ramozright - even the frontpage looks funny when you arn't logged in
20:21.20Gnarfoznope
20:21.40ckknightramoz: it always looks funny
20:21.47ramozok
20:21.48ckknightramoz: haven't done the front page.
20:21.50Gnarfozah well, I have lua on my server
20:23.01Repo10lil-sparkys-workshop: 03lilsparky * r69 / (2 files in 2 directories): fixed auctionmaster RegisterToggle error
20:23.07nevcairielwow when i run smariots thing my whole shell goes nuts
20:23.11nevcairielsomething is wonky there
20:23.35Gnarfoznevcairiel: I'd call it "mission accomplished" ;D
20:23.44nevcairielwell i can ctrl-c
20:26.40nevcairielwhy did noone write a proper console emulator for windows yet
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20:28.06Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r863 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Further coefficient fixes for the shaman
20:28.16Pneumatusmame :o
20:28.31nevcairielnot such consoles
20:28.34nevcairiel<.<
20:31.52VonhintenHOME`Ackis, you got ripped off man, that was a clear winning entry
20:32.17AckisWorkheh
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20:36.35Repo8033173: Setup initial function to play the boss sounds.
20:36.37Repo0952aa7: Organize Yogg's sounds by type (fake right now, just setting up data structure)
20:36.40Repo7afe032: Add Yogg sounds for testing.
20:36.43Repo9465e38: Update framework.
20:37.16VonhintenHOME`oh man, that Kris Allen guy won american idol... the gay guy was waaaaay better
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20:38.18rubiki kind of agree.. even though i didn't really watch the show (wife did)
20:38.53rubikbut i bet he won by a landslide too.. he had the whole south/eastern US voting for him
20:38.55durcynnevcairiel: there are some decent ones, what console?
20:39.23nevcairiela freaking shell-console, not a game console <.<
20:40.09rubika cmd.exe replacement you mean?
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20:40.24nevcairielsomething like that
20:40.32Pneumatusbash.
20:40.42rubikyeah.. cygwin+bash/tcsh/etc.
20:40.50nevcairielthey still use the cmd.exe window
20:40.54nevcairielwhich sucks balls
20:41.02Pneumatusso does powershell :<
20:41.22nevcairielI use bash
20:41.23dieckhi! how do I escape ( ) in regular expressions? local m1, m2 = string.match(l, 'Requires (.*) \((%d+)\)'); finds "Level" as m1 and "80" as m2 -- but I wanted to filter for professions, like "Leatherworking (450)"
20:41.27nevcairielbut in that freaking window
20:41.36nevcairieldieck: % is escape
20:41.37durcyndieck: %(
20:41.44dieckah, ok
20:41.46dieckthanks
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20:41.50rubiki use that 4nt/take command thingy instead of cmd.exe.. has fancier stuff and dir coloring, better tab completion, etc.
20:42.19nevcairielI used to use putty to open a cygwin shell
20:42.27nevcairielbut i am using the mingw bash from git now
20:42.30nevcairielinstead of cygwin
20:42.35rubikahh
20:42.48nevcairielso no deal anymore
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20:47.08Repo10stop-healing-mobs: 03durcyn * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): include raid damage taken totals as well as healing
20:47.11Repounregister on boss death, not very useful until registration conditions are finished
20:48.06Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r173 SKG_GUI_List.lua: SKG :
20:48.09Repo- next up, main selection dropdown
20:48.42PrimerGnarfoz: sup
20:49.02GnarfozPrimer: got my yt link yesterday?
20:49.09Primerno
20:49.26PrimerGnarfoz: Did I tell you that I tried a newer ffmpeg and it worked perfectly?
20:49.29Gnarfozyep
20:49.30Primerno corruption
20:49.53Gnarfozmine works, too (I had the damn pre-caching indicator over the course of the whole clip, hehe)
20:50.04Gnarfozalthough yt took like 42 hours to process mine
20:50.07Gnarfozeven though it was just 64mb
20:50.12Primeryeahweird
20:50.14Primererr
20:50.15Gnarfoz(which still took me 4 hours to upload ^^)
20:50.16Primerweird
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20:50.24GnarfozPrimer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z80p6tCFyoA&fmt=22
20:50.39Primerhehe typo
20:50.42Primertentancle
20:50.53Primerin the vid text
20:51.03Primerhahah authenticator
20:51.21Gnarfoz'course
20:51.46GnarfozI was freaked out and pushed it off the edge of my keyboard, that's why it took me so long to enter the damn code ;D
20:52.01Gnarfozomg I really misspelled tentacle, haha
20:52.13Primerseeing a lot of stalling, I guess the video itself has that?
20:52.22Primerthe original
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20:52.53Gnarfozhm?
20:53.04Gnarfozyour bandwidth should be sufficient to not have caching issues
20:53.08Fisker-i am unstoppable
20:53.16Gnarfozand no, the video is fluid both on YT and in the original, for me
20:53.21Primerthe audio plays fluidly, but there are spots where the video stalls
20:53.24Repo10stop-healing-mobs: 03durcyn * r8 StopHealingMobs.lua: can has enable on target/mouseover?  untested, etc.
20:53.30Primerheh, I have even more bandwidth here at work than at home :)
20:53.44Gnarfozoriginal was 1680x1050, has really good quality in fullscreen even after yt transcode
20:53.46Primerwe have a 1gbit uplink to 1 Wilshire (backbone here in LA)
20:54.04Gnarfozmaybe let it preload completely once and re-play?
20:54.11Primerwell, I am in Linux
20:54.13Gnarfozit's not stuttering at all for me
20:54.19StanzillaGnarfoz: is that account name edited? :P
20:54.19Primercould just be the flash player in Linux
20:54.22Repo10stop-healing-mobs: 03durcyn * r9 StopHealingMobs.lua: more upvalues
20:54.23Gnarfozah, maybe something like that
20:54.30GnarfozStanzilla: you know my curse username, right?
20:54.34Stanzillayes
20:54.38Stanzillathat's why I am asking
20:54.39Gnarfozwell, guess then
20:54.43Gnarfozit's not
20:54.44Gnarfoz:p
20:54.49Primertargeted <-- has 1 t
20:54.50Stanzillaafk hacking you
20:54.52Primernot 2
20:54.59PrimerYou have "targetted"
20:55.05Gnarfozand tentaNcle
20:55.05Primeras well as "tentancle"
20:55.06Gnarfoz;D
20:55.13PrimerL2ENGLISH
20:55.13Gnarfozit was yawn-o'-clock ;<
20:55.13Stanzillafail german!
20:55.24GnarfozPremiere needs spellchekr
20:55.31Primerthe quality is very good
20:55.41GnarfozStanzilla: right, shall I mail you my authenticator or do you want to devise an attack that removes it from the equation...? :P
20:55.49StanzillaGnarfoz: mail please
20:56.13nevcairiellol
20:56.48GnarfozPrimer: don't mistake the loading screen and the disconnect thing as stalling, though, that's just how it was (i.e. nothing to record)
20:56.57Primerno, I meant in the middle
20:57.02Gnarfozhm
20:57.06Gnarfozwell, I blame flash
20:57.25Primerlike I said, the music keeps playing just fine, but the video stalls for about half a second, and it happens a few times
20:57.33Gnarfozyeah, weird
20:57.35Primerwell, my video doesn't do that
20:57.41Primerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPFCNwEOHfk&fmt=22
20:57.47Gnarfozmaybe bitrate related?
20:57.50Primerbut then it's not the same resolution
20:57.54Gnarfoznot sure what yt transcodes to
20:57.55Primeryours seems a bit clearer
20:58.04Primerwhat encoding options did you use?
20:58.13durcynyoutube should be using 264 for hd at least
20:58.24Fisker-slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout
20:58.24SaladForktakes Fisker-'s trout and puts it back in the river. Trouts Saved: 73.
20:58.28StanzillaGnarfoz: sarah or mandy?
20:58.28GnarfozI'd boot into linux to check, but I'm actually leveling my rogue thanks to this great German ISP that fucked us out of like 7 raid members today
20:58.31Stanzillaquick!
20:58.35GnarfozStanzilla: Sarah
20:58.45Stanzillaomg!
20:59.01Gnarfozdurcyn: well yes, they do =)
20:59.34Gnarfozman
20:59.39GnarfozMeGUI is worse then WAU was
20:59.47Gnarfozeach time I start the damn thing there's updates available ;p
21:00.49GnarfozPrimer: MeGUI inserts some things that are hard to explain just because I toggle an option in the GUI, heh
21:00.52GnarfozPrimer: program --crf 22 --keyint 150 --min-keyint 30 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --no-fast-pskip --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --b-pyramid --weightb --trellis 2 --partitions p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --vbv-maxrate 50000 --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim --output "output" "input"
21:01.01Primerdamn
21:01.05Primerthat's a lot of options
21:01.09Gnarfozyeah it is
21:01.16GnarfozI'll try killing those off that don't matter
21:01.19PrimerI'm guessing a lot of that it taken care of by my use of a "preset"
21:01.26Gnarfozprobably, yeah
21:01.32GnarfozI'm using x264 directly, not through ffmpeg
21:01.50Repo10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07master * Beta1.0-30-gd82e39d / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Update version to Beta 1.1.
21:01.55Primerhow are you retaining audio?
21:01.59Primeryou just mux it in later?
21:02.03Primererr
21:02.04Primerwell
21:02.07Primeryou have music
21:02.16Gnarfozyep, music in this case
21:02.28PrimerI need to add threads to mine, since I have dual core
21:02.33Gnarfozso just mkvmerge'd it in afterwards (after editing it in Premiere and exporting it as wav)
21:02.37Gnarfozno
21:02.37Gnarfozyou don't
21:02.41Gnarfozdefault is already threaded
21:02.42Gnarfozprogram --crf 22 --keyint 150 --min-keyint 30 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --no-fast-pskip --bframes 3 --b-adapt 2 --b-pyramid --weightb --trellis 2 --8x8dct --me umh --progress
21:02.51Primerexcept I'm using ffmpeg
21:02.51Repo10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 04Beta1.1 * f9604ef /: [new tag] Beta 1.1
21:02.57Primersince I want the original audio
21:02.57Gnarfozwell, still
21:03.19Gnarfozyou could mux it in later too ;)
21:03.24Primerthat's what I did originally
21:03.31Gnarfozyeah, I remember
21:03.46GnarfozMeGUI devs need a slap upside the head for some things they make it put in there
21:03.55PrimerOne thing I don't get is how, when running ffmepg via cygwin, it doesn't understand cygwin paths
21:04.01Gnarfozheh
21:04.05Gnarfozurgh cygwin though
21:04.05Primerbecause I can't stand being in a stupid terminal
21:04.10Primeri.e. cmd.exe
21:04.13Gnarfozthere should be native ffmpeg binaries for windows
21:04.16Primerthere are
21:04.19Gnarfozwell, use console?
21:04.22Primerthat seems to be the problem
21:04.23Gnarfoz"Console"
21:04.33Gnarfoz(which is a prettier gui for cmd.exe)
21:04.53Primertoo used to the unix term
21:05.07Gnarfozheh
21:05.08PrimerI spend all day in Linux at work...I honestly can't imaging how people get shit done in windows
21:05.14Primerimagine, even
21:05.17GnarfozConsole can host cygwin-bash, too :)
21:05.35EvilJohn-I find PowerCmd to be a very good tool
21:05.38PrimerI mean, when I need to upload crap from my windows box and I'm at work, I ssh into it and scp it off :)
21:05.58Gnarfozhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/console/ < for reference
21:06.02Primerthanks
21:07.55GnarfozI basically have my entire recording, editing, exporting and encoding chain figured out... too bad I can't be arsed to actually used it, knowing that uploading any result I might create will take like 16 hours+
21:08.06Endwhat the crap
21:08.09Endmy landlord changed again
21:08.21Gnarfozsith happens!
21:08.25StanzillaGnarfoz: does your chain work with 16:10 resolutions?
21:08.40GnarfozStanzilla: yeah, 'course
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21:11.03Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r864 / (3 files in 2 directories):
21:11.06Repo- Added delay to UNIT_AURA, as buffs haven't necessarily applied yet
21:11.09Repo- Moved disease amount calculation into DK module
21:11.19GnarfozStanzilla: why? because of x264's mod16 requirement?
21:11.38Stanzillabecause I still have no clue what to do with my wow videos
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21:11.52Stanzillaknowledge level ~~ 0
21:12.08Gnarfozhehe
21:12.20Groktarbleeds all over Gnarfoz
21:12.36Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.6.3b-4 * r865 : Tagging as 1.6.3b-4
21:12.46GnarfozGroktar: kinky
21:13.08GnarfozStanzilla: are they worth publishing? guild internally at least, or something?
21:13.32Stanzillanot yet but I want to make some
21:13.47Stanzilla(good ones)
21:13.53Stanzillaonly test material atm
21:17.16Gnarfozwell
21:17.39Gnarfozdidn't edit much so far, besides titles and cutting, for which Premiere is obviously overkill ;p
21:18.42Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r866 Data/Mage.lua: - Fixed error in Mage.lua:134
21:20.21dieckis there a function to derive whether an item is BoP or BoE? or do I have to parse the tooltip myself?
21:20.37NeoTrondieck: tooltip
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21:23.54Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r867 / (2 files in 2 directories):
21:24.25Repo- Fixed self cast buff/debuff detection as per API changes in 3.1
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21:30.46Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r868 / (6 files in 2 directories):
21:30.49Repo- Also fixed self cast debuff detection in melee module as per API changes in 3.1
21:30.52Repo- Cleaned up some useless comments
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21:32.04thecookieIs there a list anywhere of all the commands for SetBinding ?
21:33.07Graveeaterthe examples from http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetBinding don't help you, right?
21:34.25Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.6.3b-5 * r869 : Tagging as 1.6.3b-5
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21:43.29Repo10ysstargets: 03yssaril 07master * 9a3693a / (3 files in 1 directory): [+9 commits] (5 truncated)
21:43.34Repo9a3693a: properly reset bars when options change or the profile is reset
21:43.38Repo5de2cf6: add LDBicon support for all you lazy non LDB people
21:43.42Repo524c219: fixed OpDepts
21:43.46Repoe166d11: removed the OnEnter bar script wrapper (less function calls woot)
21:43.50Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06dropdown * r174 SKG_GUI_List.lua: SKG :
21:43.54Repo- more mains chooser. this should be interesting
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21:49.02AntiarcGnarfoz: Because I used BigBrother, but I discovered that it was responsible for me going from 30 FPS to <1 FPS on Hodir
21:49.29ShefkiWhat was it doing on Hodir that was hurting your FPS so bad?
21:49.29GnarfozAntiarc: nice, how'd it do that? :D
21:50.07GnarfozAntiarc: anyway, crybaby does exactly what yours does, -configurable output ;)
21:50.08ShefkiI'm interested because I've had a lot of complaints about PB4 hurting FPS on Hodir, but I can't really see what's special about that fight.
21:50.13Gnarfozand... SPELL_AURA_REMOVED is bad
21:50.19Gnarfozbecause it fires on shit you don't want
21:50.31Gnarfozask durcyn about it ;)
21:50.36Repo10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r39 / (4 files in 2 directories):
21:50.39RepoFormatter: try harder to ignore false, nil and empty values.
21:50.42RepoSource_Auras: fixed wording.
21:50.45RepoSource_Spellcasts: announce interrupted casts.
21:51.51durcynwhat did i do now?
21:52.20durcynit's useful for auras that don't trigger BROKEN or DISPEL
21:53.28Gnarfozwell, but even then it doesn't really tell you what happened
21:53.42Gnarfozand you have to be filter out those that *do* trigger broken or dispel
21:53.42Gnarfoz^^
21:53.51durcyni can't think of a meaningful cc aura that doesn't, though
21:53.58durcynfear? blind?  who cares.
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21:57.42Zhinjiowhat is the property on an editbox that makes it lose focus when Esc is pressed (or not)
21:57.44Primerhrmm, is strsplit not a part of actual lua?
21:57.58PrimerWhat do people use for spliting on a regex anyhow?
21:59.53Repo10broker_calendarevents: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.6-1-g9157cdc Broker_CalendarEvents.lua: [+1 commit] should fix the error that was cause by blizzard changing their api /sigh
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22:00.24ArrowmasterPrimer: string.gmatch?
22:00.40Primertries
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22:01.24Gnarfozdurcyn: well, bigbrother and ccbreaker wrongly report all kinds of stuff, polymorphs, repentance, sap... meh sometimes they report the same event twice, once correctly, and once wrongly
22:02.33Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-111-g144ce07 / (11 files in 1 directory): [+5 commits] (1 truncated)
22:02.36Repo144ce07: More pruning/modifications for transition.
22:02.39Repo1033271: Start pruning the files for the items not needed.
22:02.42Repoe20c01a: Update .pkgmeta for new files.
22:02.45Repo5a0b214: Update ToC for new files.
22:04.42Primererr
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22:06.51AntiarcGnarfoz: I know Crybaby does, but I wanted configurable output
22:06.53AntiarcSo I kept mine
22:07.23Primerok, perhaps if I asked in "perl"
22:07.26Primerperl -e 'print "$_\n" for split /\s+/, "a huge string  of text  separated by   arbitrary   spacing"'
22:07.35Primerhow do I do that in lua?
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22:09.44Primeror is there no native PCRE regex spliting in lua?
22:09.44Pneumatuswow has strsplit
22:09.44Arrowmasterthere is no native PCRE regex in lua
22:09.44Pneumatusbut it wont be pcre
22:09.44Primeror POSIX?
22:09.52AntiarcYou get Lua patterns
22:09.52AntiarcWhich aren't as powerful
22:09.56AntiarcNo PCRE or POSIX
22:10.02Arrowmasterthere is nothing remotely close to what are considered real regex in Lua
22:10.08PrimerI feel like I've entered the twilight zone
22:10.21Primerat the signpost up ahead...a programming language like no other...
22:10.33AntiarcWhat are you trying to do? Maybe we can offer suggestions
22:10.38AntiarcMost of us have solved these issues :P
22:10.43Graveeaterthough the string you posted as an example can be parsed
22:11.22PrimerI want to have arguments to my slash command, and I want to account for user stupidity
22:11.36PrimerI just want to parse the slash command arguments, really
22:11.54Primerbut I didn't want to split on " ", thinking "You know, it won't take much for a stupid user to fuck that up"
22:12.27Antiarceh, that's how most do it
22:12.36jnwhiteh%S
22:12.38jnwhitehproblme solved
22:12.42Antiarcstring.gmatch("%S+")
22:12.56jnwhitehlua> for token in ("a huge string  of text  separated by   arbitrary   spacing"):gmatch("%S+") do print(token) end
22:12.56lua_botjnwhiteh: a, huge, string, of, text, separated, by, arbitrary, spacing
22:13.19Primerjnwhiteh: have I told you lately that I love you?
22:13.25jnwhitehlol
22:13.28Primer:)
22:13.42NeoTronjnwhiteh: what does %S mean?
22:13.48jnwhitehits [^%s]
22:13.53jnwhitehwhich is the class of non-space characters
22:14.01thecookieCan anyone pastey a key binding file? I don't have WoW installed here atm :D'
22:14.05NeoTronso does it handle unicode names?
22:14.05jnwhitehlua> for token in ("a huge string  of text\t\t  separated\n by   arbitrary   spacing"):gmatch("%S+") do print(token) end
22:14.05lua_botjnwhiteh: a, huge, string, of, text, separated, by, arbitrary, spacing
22:14.10NeoTronutf8 rather
22:14.16thecookieHmm, maybe those are fully saved on server  these days?
22:14.16NeoTronor whatever the heck wow uses :P
22:14.17Pneumatus# %s --- represents all space characters.
22:14.19jnwhitehNeoTron: yes
22:14.26NeoTronawesome
22:14.52NeoTronseems like more like what I might want to use in some of my stuff (although [^ ] is typically sufficient)
22:14.56Graveeaterhow mean would a user be, to input unicode whitespace on chat line?
22:15.14NeoTronGraveeater: not unicode whitespace but non-ascii characters
22:15.18NeoTron%w fails on those
22:15.37jnwhitehbecause they're not "alpha" characters in the current locale
22:15.53AckisWork@project ora3
22:15.54RepoAckisWork: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/ora3/. oRA3. Game: WoW. Ammo (Manager/Author), Rabbit (Author). Updated: 43 hours ago
22:15.55Graveeatergood to know.
22:16.17jnwhitehholy shit i love this server
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22:17.05AckisWorkwhy?
22:18.39NeoTronjnwhiteh: that just uses like isalpha or something?
22:18.57jnwhitehnot sure specifically what it uses
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22:19.00jnwhitehAckisWork: there are people on it
22:19.00jnwhiteh.
22:19.03jnwhitehits fucking.. amazing.
22:19.16AckisWorkhahah
22:20.07NeoTronjnwhiteh: so basically, a low bar? :)
22:20.14NeoTronserver merges!
22:20.14jnwhitehyes
22:20.17jnwhitehvery much so
22:20.21jnwhitehvek'nilash-eu
22:20.25jnwhitehis a sad sad place for alliance
22:20.26NeoTronI tried SWG again just because I was bored
22:20.30NeoTronI actually saw some people
22:20.52AckisWorkreally?
22:21.00NeoTronbut I had this great experience that tells me that SWG is still good ol SWG. I log on and I stand in a house somewhere. Go out and find that I'm on tatooine
22:21.20NeoTronI travel around on a speeder and I see like no living creatures. ran into maybe 3 mobs
22:21.42Gnarfozsounds... fun?
22:21.44NeoTronmake it to a city and head to the starport, driving my speeder right into it. no dismount. In fact I can't even dismount manually
22:21.50NeoTronso I decide to relog
22:21.52jnwhitehKaelten: any reason why TomTom isn't available via Curse Client?
22:22.06NeoTronso I log back in and i'm standing in the middle of nowhere... on Lok
22:22.20AckisWorkjnwhiteh: it is, hit the refresh button
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22:22.33jnwhitehah there we go
22:22.34jnwhitehsorry =)
22:22.49AckisWorkno bug him about it, it's a retarded bug that needs fixing
22:22.52AckisWork:P
22:22.58NeoTronso great how they ported me from tatooine with no mobs to Lok (with normal mobs). I guess the fact that the char hadn't logged in for years put it in some weird state or something
22:23.09AckisWorklol
22:23.16jnwhitehi want a pretty castingbar
22:23.18jnwhitehsuggestions?
22:23.35Gnarfozquartz, yay
22:23.39durcynisn't oCB still around?
22:23.48GnarfozoCBlol ;o
22:23.53durcynand quartz isn't in the best of shape
22:24.06Gnarfozthe last release works just fine
22:24.09jnwhitehBankStack is still the best stacker?
22:24.34durcynprobably
22:24.39[Ammo]yup
22:24.46Gnarfoz(besides the not-using-good-widgets in the config thing, which for example breaks on SharedMedia's texture list because you can't scroll at all ^^)
22:24.46durcynthough it's been bugging for me with banknon, and is sometimes non-deterministic
22:25.06durcynGnarfoz: you should help me unfuck the ace3 branch then!
22:25.33Gnarfozdurcyn: I was waiting for that to some day get a "whew, almost usable, someone test this shit" commit :P
22:26.32AckisWorkhttp://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1453-install-via-curse-client/#comments
22:26.36AeyanI've been stuck on AzCastBar for a while. Tried configuring the oUF castbar to do what I want and look like what I want but it always ends up being more hassel to me than it's worth, hehe.
22:28.01Kemayojnwhiteh: Well, *I* think so. :D
22:28.11jnwhitehlol
22:28.39jnwhitehdoes it use addonloader and the slash command/LDB launcher?
22:28.41durcynKemayo: any idea why i wouldn't be able to move items out of my bank on a fresh login using bagnon with bankstack?  i have to run a sort before it even lets me pick up an item
22:29.21Kemayodurcyn: I have no idea why that might be happening. It doesn't do any sort of hooking of picking up items, so it shouldn't be affecting that at all.
22:29.32durcynhrm, bizarre.  only happens with BankStack enabled.
22:29.43[Ammo]jnwhiteh: not yet, but kemayo is here
22:29.49[Ammo]if he wants to add it it's easy :)
22:29.54[Ammo]it is now set to delayed
22:29.55jnwhitehyes, he should
22:30.01jnwhitehif LightHeaded can load in magical AddonLoader fashino
22:30.04jnwhitehso can bankstack :P
22:30.50KemayoAddonLoader can create a stub LDB that triggers the addon to load when it's interacted with?
22:30.55jnwhiteh:P
22:30.56[Ammo]yeah
22:30.56jnwhitehyeppers
22:31.02AntiarcYou know what I love
22:31.07KemayoFancy. I'll hook that up.
22:31.13AntiarcI love that Blizzard nerfed priest/rogue IMMEDIATELY after 3.1 dropped
22:31.17AntiarcBut no, druid/DK is a-ok
22:31.22AntiarcThanks Blizzard, pro job
22:31.41Antiarcdruid/dk is so phenominally broken
22:31.42[Ammo]http://www.wowwiki.com/AddonLoader
22:31.46rubikdruid IS ok... bear sucks shit, moonkin is.. meh... cat is about 5% OP
22:31.48[Ammo]the howto is right there kemayp
22:31.54Antiarcresto druid
22:32.00[Ammo]at the X-LoadOn-LDB-Launcher part
22:32.08Antiarcresto druid/DK is overpowered as hell
22:32.19rubikoh, you're talking about pvp/arena.. i know nothing about that
22:32.37rubiki honestly wish they stopped breaking my PvE druid due to PvP shit that i don't care about
22:32.57rubikmake WoW PvP into a different game or something already
22:34.24Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r34 modules/Flight.lua: more module work, guaranteed to break or your money back
22:35.50Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r243 Postal.lua:
22:35.53RepoHides the minimap unread mail button if there are no unread mail on closing the mailbox. Does not scan past the first 50 items since only the first 50 are viewable.
22:36.06XinhuanAmmo, can you make addon loader support zone IDs
22:36.16[Ammo]probably yeah
22:36.19Xinhuanyou know how each zone has a unique integer ID now right?
22:36.23[Ammo]I do
22:36.28[Ammo]and I intended to
22:36.35[Ammo]but been working on other stuff lately
22:36.36Xinhuanright now it only uses english strings
22:36.40[Ammo]no it doesn't
22:36.40Xinhuani think
22:36.44[Ammo]optional BZ support
22:36.46Xinhuanand babble if its available
22:36.47[Ammo]if you have BZ installed
22:36.49[Ammo]yeah
22:36.56Xinhuanbut i'll guess half the time BZ isn't installed
22:36.58[Ammo]I'll fix so it checks for numbers and work with that
22:37.00Kemayo[Ammo]: Does addonloader's ldb stuff use libdbicon?
22:37.05Xinhuanand there are many subzones that aren't in BZ
22:37.07[Ammo]FUCK LDBICON
22:37.10Xinhuansuch as "Heb'Velok"
22:37.12[Ammo]piece of shit lib
22:37.23[Ammo]ldbicon is completely against the damn LDB principle
22:37.43[Ammo]anyway, time for bed
22:38.14GnarfozPSA: users don't care about your pretty principles.
22:38.15Gnarfoz:P
22:39.16[Ammo]they just need a bit of education
22:39.19KemayoYeah, having libdbicon around is great -- no more having to explain to users "you need to have a broker display addon".
22:39.55Gnarfoz[Ammo]: they don't *care* :p
22:40.04[Ammo]but ldbicon doesn't disable itself when a display addon is available
22:40.07[Ammo]so it's a piece of shit
22:40.37Gnarfozright, absolutely not implementable, and nobody has thought of it before, apparently
22:40.42Gnarfozetc etc "fix it, then"
22:40.42Gnarfoz:p
22:41.07[Ammo]naah
22:41.15KemayoWeirdly enough, I wouldn't want it to disable itself if there's a display. I like having the occasional thing that's a minimap icon.
22:41.23Pneumatusditto
22:41.31Pneumatusthere are a couple of things i specifically have as minimap icons
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22:41.49hypetechSexyMap makes minimap icons a non issue anyway since you only see them when you hover over
22:42.21Gnarfozif only that worked with all addons
22:42.48Gnarfozalso, if only any of the other features of it were worth installing the "Cartographer 2.x of Minimap addons"
22:42.51Gnarfoz;p
22:42.56hypetechlol
22:43.06jnwhitehis there any action bar addon that is small.. I just want it to remove the art, make em a bit smaller.
22:43.19AntiarcSexyMap really isn't that heavy.
22:43.25hypetechsexy is a feature imo
22:43.31AntiarcIt "feels" like it because it uses non-standard textures, but those textures are in the Blizzard MPQs
22:43.56Gnarfozmeh, textures don't add "load" anyway, that's not what I meant at all ;)
22:44.12Gnarfozand I know it's probably not as bad as cart2 ;p
22:44.20[Ammo]jnwhiteh: dominos does that
22:44.22[Ammo]I think
22:44.26Gnarfozthere's some...
22:44.26Kemayojnwhiteh: I like Dominos...
22:44.31jnwhitehthanks.
22:44.32jnwhitehi'll take a look
22:44.36GnarfozActionBarDesignChanger or something on wowi
22:44.38AntiarcI'm mildly disappointed that I've only ever seen one user-contributed SexyMap layout
22:44.46AntiarcBecause it has so much potential but people just stick with presets
22:44.50Gnarfoznot sure what it's actually called
22:44.52AntiarcAnd really, I'm not an artist
22:45.17Gnarfozit has really low potential for square minimaps, that's my beef with it, I think ^^
22:45.27Antiarceh? It's fine with squares. :P
22:45.32Gnarfozit *does* squares
22:45.45Gnarfozbut the main feature of it, displaying "oooh, aaaah" animated textures
22:45.58Gnarfozdoesn't go well with it, because... well, I want to see the damn map :D
22:45.59NeoTronAntiarc: sexymap would be sexier if the headsup display worked with tomtom :P
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22:47.01NeoTronI use it for the button removal mainly
22:47.21NeoTronmy minimap is plain and square
22:48.50Antiarchttp://i42.tinypic.com/2u7n6mw.jpg is my map
22:49.27Gnarfozborders = waste of space, imho :<
22:49.41Gnarfozalso wtf screen res is that ;o
22:50.28Repo10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r137 / (2 files in 1 directory):
22:50.31RepoUse AddonLoader's slashcommand/LDB stuff. I'm not 100% convinced, because it does break the minimap icon for people with addonloader.
22:50.37Antiarc1920x1200
22:51.50NeoTrondo you by chance run with a 24" flat screen monitor?
22:52.00Antiarcyes
22:52.09rubiksame here
22:52.21rubik<3 1920x1200 on 24" screen
22:53.10durcyn2560x1600 on a 30" is pretty nice too.
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22:54.15NeoTrona friend of mine runs with 2x30"
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22:54.20NeoTronnot both for WoW I gather
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23:00.26Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r244 Postal.lua:
23:00.30RepoChange the opening speed menu to show speeds between 0.3 to 1.0 (with 0.05 steps) and 1.0 to 5.0 (with 0.5 steps). Change the default opening speed from 0.75 to 0.50.
23:06.02Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r196 / (8 files in 7 directories): --Add clams to openable
23:07.52jnwhitehso with chatter, any way (Without a custom format) to put some space between the timestamp and the message?
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23:09.25Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r235 / (4 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus:
23:09.28Repo- Paladin aura checking working again although it is not perfect.
23:09.31Repo- Raid warnings for Table and Feast automatically throttle back so will be much less spammy now.
23:09.46Repo- Fixed a bug where it would whisper people to buff others even when no buff was needed.
23:10.49NeoTronanyone tried raidbuffstatus?
23:12.11durcynNeoTron: i wasn't thrilled with it
23:13.30Xinhuan!spi UnitFaction
23:13.31Xinhuan!api UnitFaction
23:13.31lua_botUnitFactionGroup: Gives information about the units faction in english and the gamelocale. Returns nil when not available. (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitFactionGroup)
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23:13.43GagorianCommit failed (details follow):
23:13.43GagorianUnknown hostname 'svn.wowace.com'
23:13.47Gagorian:C
23:14.16nicoli_suhoh
23:14.49GagorianFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUU
23:14.53Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r870 / (6 files in 2 directories):
23:14.56Repo- Added debug function to test all spells and ranks for errors
23:14.59Repo- Fixed an error in Mage.lua and Hunter.lua
23:15.00Gagorianah there it goes
23:16.18Repo10gnoom: 03Graveeater * r2 .pkgmeta: Initial commit.
23:17.08durcynAntiarc: looks like there are two trinkets with the same proc spellid, sundial of hte exiled and flow of knowledge :/
23:17.18AntiarcThere are several like that.
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23:17.33AntiarcIf they're both equipped you can't tell which procced it
23:17.33durcynand it looks like i can't even type the word 'the' anymore also
23:17.50durcynwell, in this case it's returning the itemid for flow when sundial procs
23:18.38SqueeGpeople have ground rep with both aldor and scyer? >.O
23:18.54durcynSqueeG: i switched before 3.0 and never got credit :(
23:19.01Antiarcdurcyn: It should be iterating all the possible item IDs and returning the first one that's equipped
23:19.04SqueeGaw dude >.< that's lame
23:19.15SqueeGget a GM to fix it? O_o
23:19.24durcyni opened a ticket, they told me to piss off
23:19.39durcynmaybe they're able to grant achievements now, i should try again
23:19.50Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.6.3b-6 * r871 : Tagging as 1.6.3b-6
23:19.54SqueeGI didn't get credit for the old world instances i've done a billion times *shrug*
23:20.55Graveeateranyone using tortoise svn?
23:21.06Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r245 / (2 files in 2 directories):
23:21.09RepoAdd separate OpenAll filters specific to your Faction AH and Neutral AH.
23:21.44SqueeGIs the argent tourney permanent?
23:22.01GraveeaterSqueeG, at least until 3.2 I think
23:22.11SqueeG>.O
23:22.29SqueeGi'm way to lazy to get the achieves for two characters xD
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23:29.26durcynit's permanent
23:30.15Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r246 Postal.toc: TOC update to v3.1.2.
23:30.46Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan 04v3.1.2 * r247 : Tag v3.1.2 for release.
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23:35.41Repo10gnoom: 03Graveeater * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): Initial commit.
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23:37.01Repo10tehtip: 03copystring * r9 TehTip.lua:
23:37.06Repo- now hooks in GameTooltip_SetDefaultAnchor, this should fix all hide/show issues
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23:38.38copystringI'm not sure but i think the repo for !Tehtip is broken. Anyone here can look after it?
23:38.54PrimerAckis: from what I can tell, it's not working
23:38.56Graveeaterdoes the packager create the embeds.xml and/or the toc file?
23:39.13Primertarget a player of the opposing faction and the macro switches to the pvp one (as before)
23:39.24Primerbut when I "untarget" said player, the macro remains
23:39.27copystringGraveeater, nope.
23:40.20copystringDoesn't look like it's my fault: http://www.wowace.com/projects/tehtip/repositories/mainline/packager/
23:40.31Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 041.6.3_release * r872 : Tagging as 1.6.3_release
23:40.48PrimerAckis: I definitely updated today via curse, had to set it to beta
23:40.56Primershould I have selected alpha?
23:42.21Primerseems so
23:42.24Repo10gnoom: 03Graveeater * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): Initial commit. (Yes again)
23:42.59NeoTronGraveeater: gnoom - like gnomes but spelled wrong!
23:43.39AckisWorkPrimer: aye alphas
23:43.59Graveeateractually it is an abbreviation
23:44.30Graveeaterthough it would be nice to mention the long name somewhere...
23:44.59NeoTron@describe gnoom
23:45.00RepoNeoTron: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/gnoom/. gnOOM. Shows a simple bar, which displays the guessed time until out of mana. There are currently two strategies for estimation, just test which one suits you more. (Suggestions would be great)
23:45.08Primerstill doesn't work
23:45.19Graveeaterthat was about five seconds to early ^^
23:46.11AckisWorkPrimer: aight I'll have to take a look at it this weekend then if I have time, need to dick with it in person
23:46.49Primerheh, I can't even get it to switch to the default macro at all
23:47.28AckisWorkyah I took away the default macro and made it pick one of the spec based ones
23:47.40AckisWorkwait, check your options to see if it's enabled (should be)
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23:48.05Primerit is
23:49.05Primer/ihml, then drop down to default, swap
23:49.08Primernothing happens
23:49.12Primerno lua error either
23:49.34Primeruncheck "talent specific" and it works again
23:49.47Primerhow exactly does the talent specific stuff work?
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23:50.18Primerok, with talent specific unchecked, untargeting a player of the opposing faction reverts back to the default macro!
23:50.23Primercheers
23:50.36AckisWorkaye
23:50.40AckisWorkdefault behaviour
23:50.59Primerso how does the talent specific stuff work?
23:51.06Primeris it a special macro name?
23:51.30Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r1873 Docs/Main.txt: Changed format of the main page to WikiCreole
23:52.34AckisWorkaye two of them
23:52.42AckisWorkm_handykey1/m_handykey2
23:53.57AckisWorknew = new ~= "PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED" and new or queued
23:56.29AckisWorknot reall sure what that line of code does right now

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