IRC log for #wowace on 20090519

00:00.10vhaarrisn't __index supposed to catch every access to a table?
00:00.13Xinhuanno vhaarr
00:00.21Xinhuanit only catches indexes which are nil
00:00.29Xinhuannot all accesses
00:00.32vhaarrI thought that was __newindex
00:00.43Xinhuan__newindex is when you *assign* a new value
00:00.50vhaarrah
00:00.56vhaarrmakes sense, right
00:00.57Xinhuani.e write a new key entry
00:01.01vhaarrcan I catch every access?
00:01.04Xinhuanno
00:01.16Xinhuanyou can only catch every access by using a proxy table
00:01.30ArrowmasterXinhuan: do you have font smoothing completely disabled?
00:01.32vhaarrright, figured
00:01.38Xinhuani.e a empty {} table with __index = function(t, k) return realtable[k] end
00:01.43Xinhuanas the metatable
00:01.53Xinhuannot sure, Arrowmaster
00:01.57Xinhuanwhere do i check
00:01.58Arrowmasteri think you do
00:02.08Arrowmasteryou said win7 right?
00:02.11Xinhuanyes
00:02.22Arrowmasterdo you have the cleartype tuner?
00:02.24Xinhuansee the "send feedback" in the corner?
00:02.26Xinhuanlol
00:02.36Xinhuanshould be in control panel, yes
00:03.04Arrowmasterwell i had to install it for win xp
00:03.13rubikman... cleartype off makes teh baby jesus cry
00:03.27Arrowmastercleartype on makes baby jesus cry
00:03.56Arrowmastertext is not suppost to have red and green around the edges
00:04.10Arrowmasterred/blue
00:04.16rubikeh... nor jagged edges that hurt my eyes
00:04.20Xinhuanso uh now what
00:04.27ArrowmasterXinhuan: advanced tab
00:04.42rubikbut i understand different strokes for different folks i guess
00:04.43Xinhuanadvanced tab of what
00:04.45Xinhuanthere's no tabs
00:04.48Xinhuanin the tuner
00:05.05Arrowmasterif yours is like mine, i have an 'enable font smoothing' checkbox with a dropdown that has 'standard' and 'cleartype'
00:05.13Xinhuanno
00:05.15Arrowmastermine has tabs
00:05.19Xinhuanits just one checkbox, on or off
00:05.20Xinhuanthat's it
00:05.32Arrowmastermine has a tab!
00:05.35Xinhuanif u turn it on, then there's a "next" button for the next few screens to
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00:05.45Xinhuanselect "best looking font" out of a few selections
00:07.03NeoTronhmm
00:07.04Repo10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r33 / (3 files in 2 directories): Copied a bunch of defaults announce from CastYeller.
00:07.07RepoConsider Wintergrasp as a battleground in regard to disabling CastYeller2.
00:07.10RepoAuras module handles stack count.
00:07.16NeoTronfor Yogg, do hunter pets also despawn as you mvoe between inside/outside?
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00:12.58ArrowmasterXinhuan: "Having ClearType turned off in the ClearType Text Tuner and Smooth edges of screen fonts enabled in the Performance Options (System > Advanced system settings) gives me the good old font smoothing."
00:13.47Xinhuanah my smooth edges is off
00:14.05Arrowmasterthe Segoe UI font which sounds like its the default font in win 7 appears to use cleartype nomatter what even if you disable it
00:14.36Xinhuani'll turn it on and see if i feel any differences
00:14.47Arrowmasteryeah calibri with normal smoothing enabled looks almost unreadable to me
00:15.13Arrowmasterbut other fonts look better to me with it enabled
00:15.14Kemayosubpixel smoothing does make things look a lot better on lcds...
00:15.37Xinhuanmafia+1
00:15.58ArrowmasterKemayo: cleartype is completely unusable on the newest lcds because of the increased color ranges
00:17.16Ackislol
00:20.33KemayoArrowmaster: My lcd is obviously too old. :)
00:21.38AezayTalking about Calibir, Here are two versions of Calibri Bold, wonder why they made it uglier, I kinda liked the funny numbers
00:21.41Aezayhttp://users.cybercity.dk/~bfy1097/calibri-0.9.png vs http://users.cybercity.dk/~bfy1097/calibri-1.0.png
00:22.53KemayoI wish to pause to recommend Inconsolata. It's a nice coding font.
00:23.01Arrowmasterthose numbers would have driven me crazy
00:23.25Arrowmasterstuff like that is not usable for long periods of time
00:23.47Repo10instanceloot: 03Kemayo 07master * v4-3-g3acc4d9 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Sort options, level coloring
00:24.09AezayKemayo, I just use Courier New
00:24.31AezayInconsolata reminds me of OCR A Extended
00:25.09AezayArrowmaster, I don't think they look bad when used in wow http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw24821.jpg
00:27.27KemayoBitstream Vera Sans Mono is pretty nice, too.
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00:30.50AckisAuldLangSyne2...
00:33.55Kemayo...really?
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00:36.37NeoTronhmm does nvidia gpu's support sli between different model cards these days?
00:36.56AckisKemayo: yah one was just submited to CF
00:37.10NeoTronor, perhaps, support using a second card only for non-graphics calculations (physics, cuda etc)
00:38.06NivFreakNeoTron: don't think so
00:38.06ckknightokay, tooltip hovering on beta.wowace.com works a lot better now as far as sticking on the screen and all.
00:38.28SaladForkDid you fix teh font issue?
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00:38.42NeoTrontrying to think if theer's any use for my old 8800 GT that I can't use in my old old computer .. since my old computer died
00:38.47ckknightSaladFork: no
00:38.52NeoTronnot really worth anything for selling either
00:38.54ckknighttomorrow
00:39.00ckknightI need to come up with a good font stack, I suppose
00:39.45ckknightcurrent fonts: http://paste.wowace.com/681/
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00:40.12Xinhuanckknight, accept mafia wars invite ;p
00:41.05ckknightk
00:42.25ckknightokay, check http://beta.wowace.com/projects/
00:42.30ckknightit should have the image tooltips fixed now
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00:43.00Zyndromefancy
00:44.20nicoli_sahh, change, it scares me!
00:45.45XinhuanArrowmaster, i think "smooth edge fonts" is causing the font shadow
00:45.58nicoli_sso wheres my curseforge/wowace premium features ckknight
00:45.58Arrowmasterit is with calabri
00:46.09ckknightnicoli_s: what features are these?
00:46.17nicoli_si dunno, i demand value!
00:46.21Arrowmasterlike i said, calabri was designed to be used with cleartype and nothing else
00:46.25ckknightactually, premium users will have a gold border
00:46.32ckknightor something.
00:46.41nicoli_soooh, thats good enough for me, shiny...
00:51.53Xinhuanis there a way i can mark people on facebook with a nickname?
00:52.12Xinhuani can't possibly remember like hundreds of people attaching real name to nickname
00:53.18Gnarfoz<Aezay> http://users.cybercity.dk/~bfy1097/calibri-0.9.png vs http://users.cybercity.dk/~bfy1097/calibri-1.0.png <- however, neither of those are the final versions of Calibri
00:54.07AezayGnarfoz, I have these two through some wow addons, what is the final version?
00:54.21Gnarfozwhatever was delivered with office 2k7
00:54.40Xinhuanwell yes, calibri looks like shit with smooth font edges
00:54.53Gnarfozand I think, the powerpoint viewer 2k7 package also brings it with it
00:55.03Gnarfozand some Office compatibility pack
00:55.44AezayI've been using in for my wow ui for a long time now, I really like it
00:55.54Aezaythe 0.9 version that is
00:56.10Gnarfoz<Arrowmaster> Kemayo: cleartype is completely unusable on the newest lcds because of the increased color ranges <-- like Joe User has a Wide Gamut or RGB-LED-Backlit LCD... right
00:57.02Arrowmasterthe newest 24" and larger lcds are all wide gamut from what ive seen
00:57.15Gnarfozerrr
00:57.17Gnarfoznot
00:57.18Gnarfoz:p
00:57.20ckknightXinhuan: you should be able to remember me.
00:57.32Xinhuanof course
00:57.38Gnarfozand guess how many people own a "newest 24" and larger"...
00:57.40Xinhuanbut not some of them, like Zhinjio ;p
00:57.59ckknightcheck out the font on http://beta.wowace.com/projects/
00:58.19AezayI've always found ClearType to look really bad, but I guess its what you are used to
00:58.22Gnarfozckknight: yuck ;o
00:58.28ArrowmasterGnarfoz: well i dont im still using a 20" non widescreen lcd because its better than any of the 24" lcds!
00:58.32Xinhuanckknight: looks a lot more readable than calibri ;p
00:58.32dranorXinhuan: i remember there was a facebook app to mark your contacts with nicknames, which obiusly is named "nicknames"
00:58.40ckknightGnarfoz: suggest something better
00:58.55Xinhuandranor, i find it funny how facebook wouldn't have something like that directly
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00:59.12Gnarfozckknight: just chipping in, I guess, it really doesn't look too good with ff3 ^^
00:59.29XinhuanGnarfoz, was better than calibri ;p
00:59.31dranoryes, mee too but they're for the money, not for our comfort :P
00:59.36Arrowmasterckknight: that font isnt very readable at that size
00:59.52GnarfozXinhuan: hm? I'm not sure as to what it is right now ^^
00:59.58Arrowmasterckknight: and fine before you say it again, ARIAL
00:59.59XinhuanGnarfoz: http://kinkou.net/xinftp/wowacebeta.png was what it looked liked before to me
01:00.03dranorjust like all those local irc networks that started in the late 90's
01:00.13Xinhuanthe kerning is fucked
01:00.16GnarfozXinhuan: well, that's even worse ;p
01:00.17ckknightXinhuan: how's it look for you now?
01:00.20Xinhuanno ckknight
01:00.25Xinhuanthat's an old shot
01:00.25ckknightyes.
01:00.33ckknightno, I'm asking you to take a new screenie.
01:00.50Xinhuandoing that now
01:01.26ckknightcool
01:01.32Xinhuanhttp://kinkou.net/xinftp/wowacebeta2.png is what it looks like 1 min ago
01:02.00Arrowmasterthat new font isnt effected by font smoothing at all
01:02.09MegalonBRUSSELS — The Belgian bodybuilding championship has been canceled after doping officials showed up and all the competitors fled.
01:02.11MegalonLOL :D
01:02.15Arrowmasterwas just messing around and noticed it
01:02.33Xinhuani SHOULD be reinstalling RC 6100 later today or tomorrow though
01:02.42Xinhuanand deleting 6000 beta
01:03.13Xinhuani just need, to like, get a couple of DVD-Rs to actually make the iso intoa boot disk
01:03.47NeoTronwindows 7?
01:03.51Xinhuanyeah
01:03.54NeoTronin't it RC 7100 rather?
01:04.04AxodiousOperating System: .:[Unsupported Windows 6.1 (Build #7100)]:. Installed: .:[Wednesday, April 22 2009]:. Uptime: .:[4days 4hrs 56mins]:. Record Uptime: .:[4 days 4 hours 56 minutes 48 seconds set on Mon May 18 21:04:03 2009]:.
01:04.08Axodious^- rc
01:04.08Xinhuanerr yeah 7100
01:04.10Xinhuantypo ;p
01:04.31Xinhuanmeant 7000 too, rather than 6000
01:05.09SaladForkWTF
01:05.13SaladForkMy realm is down until 11pm
01:05.15SaladForkBULL
01:05.22Arrowmasteri really like dejavu vera sans at smaller font sizes like that size but its not something that can be used since its not a standard font most people will have
01:05.34NeoTronSaladFork: maybe... better than the database corrupting data or wahtever the reason is? :)
01:05.36GnarfozMegalon: awesomesauce
01:05.40SaladForkTrue
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01:06.46NeoTronalthough I found it interesting how, it appears from downtime at least, tha they don't seem to have a proper standby setup so if ?<the database> is broken, they just take shit down instead of doing a failover
01:06.47Gnarfozckknight, Xinhuan: interestingly, that font looks better on win7 than on xp (with ff3)
01:07.06Gnarfozi.e. Xinhuan's screenshot looks better than what I see on my screen here, even though the only difference is 7 vs. XP
01:07.26Gnarfozoh wait. are we talking about the big or the small font. :D
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01:07.44Xinhuando you have "Smooth edges of screen fonts" enabled or disabled?
01:07.58Arrowmasterthe small font i thought
01:08.00Gnarfozif you're asking if I have ClearType or AA or nothing enabled: ClearType
01:08.11Gnarfozwell, small font looks tons better here than on Xin's screenshot
01:08.20Xinhuani'm asking about a different option, not cleartype
01:08.34Arrowmasterthat font is very fuzzy with cleartype enabled
01:08.37Xinhuanits found under "system performance" in "system"
01:08.52GnarfozArrowmaster: not really?
01:08.57Arrowmasterand that font isnt effected by AA aka font smoothing
01:09.05Arrowmasterit looks fuzzy to me with cleartype on
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01:09.13Gnarfozalso, why would there be two options to turn on/off font smoothing?
01:09.48Xinhuanits apparently 2 different technologies
01:09.49NeoTronone enables/disables it, the other decides which method to use?
01:10.06NeoTroncleartype = subpixel AA isn't it?
01:10.24Arrowmasteryes cleartype is the subpixel one
01:10.29GnarfozNeoTron: yeah, that's what I figure
01:10.55Arrowmasterin xp with the cleartype tuner you can change between the 3 different methods cleartype/AA/off
01:10.59Gnarfozthe System properties -> advanced -> whathaveyou-submenu is the global toggle, the one in Display Properties is the selector
01:11.05Gnarfozyou don't need the tuner for that
01:11.29Gnarfozthat's in Display Properties under Effects (since sp0)
01:12.07Xinhuanyeah, that's why i think its 2 different technologies
01:12.16Gnarfoz?
01:12.20Gnarfozread the dialogue text :D
01:12.38Arrowmasterwhere at gnarfoz?
01:12.39Gnarfoz"Use the following *METHOD* to smooth edges of screen fonts:"
01:12.49GnarfozArrowmaster: where I just said...?
01:13.11GnarfozDisplay Properties - oh wait. forgot the middle part :D - Appearance -> Effects
01:13.28Arrowmasterthats probably linked to the cleartype tuner
01:13.29Gnarfozchoices: "Standard", "ClearType" :(
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01:13.39Gnarfozurr
01:13.42Gnarfozha?
01:13.44Gnarfoz:P
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01:13.50Gnarfozthe ClearType tuner does the same thing.
01:14.16Arrowmasterright, same setting just different locations
01:14.17Gnarfozthe tuner just offers additional finetunings (hence the name) that are not in there
01:14.21Gnarfoz^^
01:14.26Gnarfozsilly microsoft, I guess
01:14.42ArrowmasterXinhuan: is there an option in that location on win7?
01:14.57Xinhuanno
01:15.05Arrowmasterodd
01:15.06Xinhuanits either checkbox on or off
01:15.21Xinhuanand the next few screens just gives you MCQ questions about which font display looks best
01:15.30Arrowmasterthe setting you have to change in win7 to enable or disable the standard smoothing isnt linked to the setting ive been changing
01:15.31Arrowmasteron xp
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01:16.51Arrowmasterbut from what ive heard font smoothing is totally fucked up on win7 anyway since its impossible to completely disable cleartype without physically deleting every cleartype enabled font
01:17.35ckknightwhy is cleartype so messed up?
01:18.24Arrowmasteron win7 or in general?
01:19.12ckknightboth
01:19.22Arrowmasterwell i dont know why its fucked up like that on win7
01:19.49GnarfozI <3 my ClearType on XP :O
01:19.58Xinhuantry google "cleartype problems"
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01:20.09Xinhuani have it off because it makes certain fonts all fuzzy
01:20.17Arrowmasterbut as far as why its just fucked up in general, some people cant stand it because it introduces edge colors to text
01:20.21Xinhuanbasically, it makes then fuzzy instead of being sharper
01:20.29Stanzilla<3 cleartype on 7
01:20.32Xinhuanquite the opposite of what its intended to do
01:20.54Arrowmasterdejavu vera sans aka bitstream vera sans is totally fucked up with cleartype enabled
01:21.04Arrowmasterthe kerning is just crazy
01:21.38ckknighthow does http://beta.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/ look?
01:22.14Arrowmasterreally if you have cleartype enabled you should ONLY be using fonts that have been created with cleartype support, and if you have it disabled you should not be using fonts that only have cleartype support aka calabri
01:22.37Gnarfozand if your LCD is not RGBRGBRGB then you probably should use the ClearType tuning thingy ;\
01:22.55Gnarfozbecause it's not making anything fuzzy for me, just sharp, as intended
01:23.09Shefkickknight: What's the difference between the blue and green borders?
01:23.15ckknightmoderator vs. author
01:23.36Gnarfozalso in the middle of this I somehow managed to reset my visual style
01:23.37GnarfozYAY
01:23.50XinhuanGnarfoz, let me upload 2 screenshots
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01:24.27Xinhuanhttp://kinkou.net/xinftp/cleartypeon.png
01:24.28Xinhuanhttp://kinkou.net/xinftp/cleartypeoff.png
01:24.30Wobinckknight: I think you'll need to change the font
01:24.35Wobinalthough I don't know what to
01:24.35ckknightwill I?
01:24.41ckknightugh
01:24.46Wobinit just looks... unfinished at this point
01:24.58XinhuanGnarfoz, look at the text in the Cleartype Tuner
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01:25.05Xinhuanthen look at the text in Firefox menu bars, and tabs
01:25.13Xinhuanboth ways, its horrible
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01:25.50Xinhuanbut having it OFF produces better results
01:25.51Wobinckknight: either that, or better delination between the sections perhaps
01:26.06XinhuanArrowmaster, my 2 screenshots also shows what is in my cleartype
01:26.14Xinhuanno "tabs"
01:26.39Gnarfozobviously OFF sucks balls, but ON looks good to me oO?
01:26.55Xinhuanno? Off looks way better, the text isn't fuzzy in firefox
01:27.01Xinhuanlook at the firefox tabs
01:27.08Xinhuanthe text on the tab, the text on the menu bar
01:27.19Xinhuanits far sharper with it off
01:27.21GnarfozI don't see any fuzziness, sry :P
01:27.34Arrowmasterthe W's look fuzzy to me
01:27.36Gnarfozand if not-anti-aliased == sharp with you, then I can see where you're coming from
01:27.49Xinhuanlook at the bolded text
01:27.54XinhuanNo MAAM - World...
01:28.03Xinhuanwith it on, its fuzzy
01:28.05Gnarfozwhat of it?
01:28.12Arrowmasteryeah fuzzy
01:28.12Xinhuanlike it has a shadow
01:28.25Xinhuansame with the menu bar
01:28.34Gnarfoz...
01:28.36Gnarfoz?
01:28.37Gnarfoz:D
01:28.54Arrowmasteralso taking screenshots of cleartype people wont see it the same everywhere because of monitor differences
01:29.02ckknightokay, until people can give me a realistic font stack that doesn't look like shit, it's staying as "Baskerville","Palatino","Palatino Linotype","Georgia","Times New Roman","serif"
01:29.06ckknightI'm going home
01:29.14Xinhuanheh
01:29.17Arrowmasteri dont think i have most of those
01:29.23Wobinsafe trip, ckk
01:29.36ckknightArrowmaster: you probably have the Palatino ones
01:29.44Xinhuanshouldn't default distribution fonts with windows and other OS be used?
01:29.55Gnarfozgah, I love it, 24h disconnect right when I'm asking a question
01:30.03ckknightXinhuan: Palatino for windows, Baskerville for OS X
01:30.08Xinhuanis baskerville default?
01:30.09Xinhuanah
01:30.27Arrowmasteri dont have either of those
01:30.38ckknightArrowmaster: well, gl with Georgia
01:30.53Wobinckknight: Maybe have a separation in terms of a box background or the like around the 'Facts' and 'Authors' to tie them to the box below
01:30.55Arrowmasteroh wait i do have Palatino Linotype
01:30.55ckknightit's either that or I switch you to Comic Sans
01:31.11Xinhuanwell Arrowmaster, i use dual screen, 2 different monitors
01:31.12Arrowmastersmall fonts shouldnt be serif!
01:31.14Xinhuanlooks shit on both
01:31.14Wobinand 'button' out the Download/ticket/report/project management
01:31.21Arrowmasteri use dual screen too
01:31.25Arrowmasterone lcd one crt
01:31.37Xinhuanso i'm not sure how even "different monitors" would affect cleartype, if both are lcd
01:31.56Gnarfozdifferent types of LCDs.
01:32.02Arrowmasterone could be rgb and the other could be bgr
01:32.02Gnarfoz(i.e. order of subpixel elements)
01:32.15Arrowmastersome monitors even have vertical subpixels
01:32.19Gnarfozwhatever ubuntu uses, it has 4 options for that
01:32.29Gnarfozyeah, I guess that's the other 2
01:32.29Gnarfoz:D
01:32.43Xinhuanhm
01:32.57Xinhuanthat makes sense at least
01:33.03Arrowmasterseriously somebody try using bitstream vera sans with cleartype enabled and try and tell me it looks good
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01:38.42GnarfozArrowmaster: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/bitstream_vera_sans_ooo.png http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/bitstream_vera_sans_wowace-beta.png
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01:39.12Gnarfozff3 kerning is way off
01:39.19Gnarfoz"anno unces" :O
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01:39.33Gnarfoz"pro pose"
01:39.34Gnarfozetc
01:39.40Gnarfozyo u
01:39.41Gnarfoz;o
01:39.44Arrowmasterhttp://arrowmaster.net/dejavu_sans_cleartype.png
01:40.21Gnarfozhaha
01:40.22Gnarfozouch
01:40.41Arrowmastershouldnt be a difference between bitstream vera and dejavu
01:41.42Adirelleis beta.wowace.com supposed to be viewable right now ?
01:41.49kagaroHey ck you there?
01:41.54Arrowmasterhe left
01:42.01Gnarfozjust went home, I think
01:42.16Arrowmasterand yes it is suppost to be viewable, or atleast the pages that are done are
01:42.26GnarfozAdirelle: yeah ckk's been linking it for feedback
01:42.45AdirelleGnarfoz: just noticed I have to skip the main page
01:44.11vhaarrwhy isn't __newindex invoked by table.insert?
01:46.56Xinhuanit just isn't
01:47.03Xinhuanyou have to call it yourself
01:47.16vhaarrweird
01:47.16Xinhuantinsert() guarantees a new index at least
01:47.25Arrowmasterthat is weird
01:47.27vhaarrtinsert is different from table.insert?
01:47.32Xinhuanno
01:47.35Xinhuanits the exact same function
01:47.35vhaarrI thought it was just an alias
01:48.00Xinhuanonly if you do t[blah] = something <--- and blah is a new key, will __newindex be triggered
01:48.18Xinhuanthat is, on the left hand side of an assignment
01:48.19Arrowmastert[#t] = something
01:48.25Arrowmasterer
01:48.29Arrowmastert[#t+1] = something
01:48.49Xinhuan__index will only be triggered if you try to read an non-existant key in the table
01:48.59vhaarrI'm talking about __newindex
01:49.04vhaarrand why table.insert doesn't call it
01:49.24vhaarrwhich it should, according to my brain
01:49.24Xinhuanwe have to assume the function call is implemented in C code
01:49.24Xinhuanand so it skips it
01:49.34Arrowmaster__newindex is suppost to be called whenever you try to write to a non existant key
01:49.50Arrowmasterbut i agree thats fucked up if table.insert doesnt trigger it
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01:50.00Xinhuani know it doesn't
01:50.15Xinhuanits just one of those quirks
01:50.20vhaarrindeed
01:50.23vhaarrfucked up
01:50.27ShefkiThe table library is fucked period.
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01:50.57ShefkiThere's so many gotcha's in there where things don't work in intuitive ways.
01:51.09Xinhuani believe all the table library functions skips the metatable
01:51.12vhaarrthis is really the first one I've encountered
01:51.20Arrowmasteryell at shirik and batrick, they submitted patches to lua
01:51.20Shefkigetn is another one.
01:51.40vhaarrgetn always worked like I expect
01:51.41ShefkiWhich I know is depricated.  But it's just been replaced with a differen syntax with the same crap.
01:51.52Shefkivhaarr: It's a table library not an array library.
01:51.52Xinhuanthe metatable is really only used when you access tables normally - not via table functions
01:52.08vhaarrXinhuan: yes I realize that now, and I'm saying that's fucked up
01:52.11ShefkiIf it was array.getn then I'd agree it makes sense.
01:52.20Arrowmaster#t is only ment to be used with arrays, i know it fucks up if its not an array sometimes
01:52.46ShefkiIt doesn't even work right with arrays always, becuase of holes in the array break it.
01:53.00Arrowmasterif the array has a hole in it then its not an array
01:53.04Xinhuani think the next official lua has a metatable method to override # operator i think
01:53.05Arrowmasterthats the point
01:53.12Xinhuaniirc, it will be __len
01:53.20ShefkiXinhuan: That's really nice. :)
01:53.36Xinhuanbut its not official yet i think
01:53.41Xinhuanor released
01:53.46ShefkiArrowmaster: I disagree but then I consider nil to be a valid value.
01:53.57vhaarrXinhuan: it's in 5.1
01:54.02Arrowmasterby definition its not
01:54.17Xinhuanah
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01:54.35Arrowmasteripairs stops at the first nil value in an array
01:54.48ShefkiArrowmaster: Not worth arguing about... It's the whole is zero a number or not thing again.
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01:55.15Xinhuanzero is a number, nil represents the lack of a value
01:55.15Arrowmasterlua> 0 == true
01:55.16lua_botArrowmaster: false
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01:55.32Arrowmasterlua> not not 0
01:55.32lua_botArrowmaster: true
01:55.50vhaarrShefki: thing is you argued it doesn't make sense, but I think that differs from where you come from, I come from Java, and everything has made perfect sense so far with getn/# and array vs map
01:56.07Shefkivhaarr: Umm yeah I'm a C guy.
01:56.19Arrowmasteri came from nothing
01:57.01vhaarrbut table.insert not invoking metamethods like that, it boggled me, especially since the PIL or the manual said nothing about it
01:57.04vhaarr(that I could find)
01:57.04Arrowmasteri take that back, i know other languages but nothing was a main language i used before lua
02:09.25Repo10amc: 03yeachan * r24 Locale/amc_enUS.lua: fixed:
02:09.28Repoline 199 "Lairie Brewgold" to "Laire Brewgold"
02:09.31Repoline 293 "Proffessor Palin" to "Professor Pallin"
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02:11.27Repoadd warnings for Elder Brightleaf hard mode ability, Unstable Energy
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03:11.10Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
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03:29.31gixhm. does wow have problems with huge logfiles?
03:32.04hypetechwith the new combat log the log files get pretty damn big.  I can't even open in notepad if I don't clear it every night
03:32.15hypetechmy last one for 8 hours of raiding was over 4 million lines
03:32.48CodayusI think that says a lot more about notepad being an incredibly poorly written text editor than anything else.  :-/
03:33.48gixwell. my logfile reached 4.3gb now. and it seems it starts to overwrite it from the beginning
03:35.40gixhttp://pastey.net/114508
03:35.59Shefkigix: Your OS fails not WoW.
03:36.08ShefkiI have a 9GB log file that's still growing.
03:36.37Axodiousyou scare me Shefki
03:36.59gixhow does it fail then?
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03:39.28Codayus4.3gb sounds a lot like someone trying to express 2^32 bytles, which is coincidentally the maximum file size limit on some systems.
03:40.13CodayusFAT32 file system?
03:41.32gixexcept i don't use such a thing. and my os doesn't have any problems with such files. so it's back to wow.
03:41.47Shefkigix: What OS?
03:41.55ShefkiAnd what file system?
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03:52.16Repo10ammo-matique: 03Anyia3 * r20 / (5 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
03:52.19Repo* Initial LDB support, for Titan Panel etc. Only tested with Titan, but any LDB
03:52.22Repodisplay addon should work.
03:52.25Repo- Left-click to toggle equipped ammo type (premium/lowgrade).
03:52.28Repo- Right-click to bring up the config dialog.
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04:01.12RepoTesting whether the LibDataBroker external git link works for the packager. If it does then this beta should have LDB support enabled and working.
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04:57.30Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn * r195 Heatsink.lua:
04:57.33Reposo it turns out GetSpellCooldown always returns 1 for the 'enabled' field when called by name instead of book id, thanks blizzard.
04:58.41Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn * r196 Heatsink.lua: bugfix
04:59.15StanzillaI was about to ask about "jcanPlayer()" :P
05:00.02durcynyeah well
05:00.08durcynvim is hard, and i'm on 3 hours of sleep
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06:12.55Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn * r197 / (2 files in 1 directory):
06:12.58Repoonly start school lockouts if they're over 1.5 seconds, since we can't rely on event timing being outside of the global cooldown
06:13.39durcynStanzilla: that one should actually be usable
06:16.54Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn 043.1.1.5-beta * r198 : This is a tag.  Woo.
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06:33.23Shefkidigmouse: You around?
06:33.36digmouseShefki: pong
06:33.43Shefki@ticket pitbull4 309
06:33.45RepoShefki: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/tickets/309 - Separating each group in raid frames. Reported by: digmouse. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 54 days ago. Component: Core. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: 0. Comments: 0
06:33.52ShefkiI'm gonna close that as declined.
06:34.08ShefkiIf you want to do that you just need to make separate groups for each group.
06:34.09digmousek, I actually find a solution by creating 8 groups
06:34.14digmousehehe
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06:35.06digmouseIt was caused by that I'm not very familiar to the new group system
06:36.29ShefkiI figured, I left it open in case you were asking that we just make an option to just do that.  But at this point I'm just gonna decline it.  We can make a new ticket if people really want that.
06:37.33Shefkickknight: ping
06:38.28Shefkidigmouse: Did you try it in a raid yet?  Are your performance issues resolved?
06:38.59digmouseShefki: tried, pretty good at BT fights, like Illidan P2
06:39.24ShefkiPretty good as in, it's just better or pretty good as in you didn't notice any lag issues?
06:39.58digmousenot in BT at least, find it really better at EoS and Illidan P2, will test this out in SWP late this week, I'll pay more attention to it
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06:40.28ShefkiI ask because I used it while raiding Ulduar tonight and didn't notice any performance issues at all.
06:40.45digmousethen that should be resolved :)
06:40.54digmousethanks for the good work
06:47.28Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 2a19fba Modules/ (3 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits]
06:47.30Repo2a19fba: Ticket 379: Eclipse added to Druid self buff aura filters.
06:47.34Repoa4434cd: Fix ticket 326 et al: Border on player/pet frame doesn't show on login
06:47.37Repod9025d2: Fix 299: CastBar unfilled when switching target error.
06:53.46orionshockis there an API that you can use to get the wintergrasp time for?
06:55.22digmouseGetWintergraspWaitTime
06:56.36orionshockiirc it dosn't work unless your in the normal world or instances, IE it dosn't work in BG's
06:57.54digmousehttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443405133&sid=1
06:57.55digmouseI dont see any other APIs related to WGL, so, that might be the one
06:59.07sb|workmorning
06:59.55Shefkiorionshock: Actually I believe you even have to be in Northrend and you have to have discovered Wintergrasp.
07:00.34orionshockthat could be it, but im making a brute force LDB feed for it, so im not too conserned with that :)
07:02.22Repo10fswapper3: 03x87bliss * r23 / (19 files in 4 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
07:02.25RepoAdded Russian Locale (32.4%)
07:02.28RepoRemoved many old slash commands (Macro commands still function)
07:02.32RepoAdded the options GUI, /fswapperg /fs3g /fswapper3 options
07:02.35RepoMay have added "Auto Track" option (or I did that in the previous version).
07:02.37Shefkiorionshock: Brute force?
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07:09.55digmouseand Shefki, another thing I'd like to see is get more things localized, though it's not a big priority thing
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07:16.32Shefkidigmouse: Well everything should be setup to be localized, it just has to be put into the localization app on the website.
07:17.21digmousek
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07:27.09Fisker-i fucking knew it
07:27.21Fisker-Take 2 promised 3DR money to fund the rest of the DNF developement
07:28.01Repo10fswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.1.1.5 * r24 : Tagging as v3.1.1.5
07:34.43orionshockShefki: brute force as in no accomidations for location or discovery ect, just a straight {text = SecondsToTime(GetWintergraspWaitTime()) } + OnUpdate frame
07:36.45TNSeFisker-, first half of the game with be so awesome you'll cry
07:36.51TNSethe last half will be stick figures and polygons
07:36.54TNSealso making you cry.
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07:38.28Megalonand we all like it when Fisker- cries
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07:39.29Fisker-naw TNSe
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08:04.03Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5641 Ulduar/YoggSaron.lua: BigWigs: Ulduar/YoggSaron: Fix Induce Madness time, not 60.
08:06.05LoialOtteranyone know who i'ld talk to? i'm trying to find how to put something on Cartographer(3) as an overlay in an addon i'm working on and i'm not quite sure where to look to start
08:06.51mitch0isn't carto sort-of abandoned?
08:08.30Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5642 Ulduar/YoggSaron.lua: BigWigs: Ulduar/YoggSaron: Oops. Fix Induce Madness warn
08:08.33LoialOtterhmm... is there a replacement or something that works like it?
08:09.35durcyncarto3's in beta, or whatever ck feels like calling it
08:14.02LoialOtterso... anyone have any idea?
08:14.22EthanCentauraiMapster + HandyNotes + Cromulent + TomTom
08:14.42LoialOtteri'll check those out...
08:14.49LoialOtteri already use two of 'em, heheh
08:14.57durcynnone of those interfere with the wordmap like carto3 does, Ethan
08:15.03durcynworld*
08:15.38EthanCentauraimeh, I never used Carto-3.0 anyway :P
08:16.09durcyniirc he's pulling the minimap textures and adding overlays instead of showing the zone maps
08:17.23LoialOttercarto3 only interferes 'cause it grabs the overlays in it to display into itself, just like Carbonite can be configured to do... i kinda like the feature...
08:17.43LoialOtterand it switches between the maps and minimap data... based on zoom
08:18.53LoialOtterboth cartographer and carbonite give a nice zoomable map that has similar features... cartographer is just better at working with the mainmap info (i don't believe carbonite can do routes, for instance)
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08:30.24LoialOtter1found an email in the package, thanks all and have fun
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08:59.39Repo10amc: 03S1nless * r25 Locale/amc_deDE.lua: small fix in german localisation
09:01.43Repo10big-wigs: 03Maat * r5644 Ulduar/YoggSaron.lua:
09:01.46RepoBigWigs: Lunatic Gaze bars are less confusing and more informative now
09:01.58orionshocki wonder if it's posible to make a LDB feed builder
09:02.16Elkanohmm?
09:02.36orionshocktake an ace3 options table, with some basic inputs like name, and either a game API name or inputted function, and make it build a ldb feed from it
09:03.27orionshocklike i've got 2 feeds that are just timmers. One is for Dailies reset and the other for WG, That's IT, nothing special about em.. i wonder if there are other things that ppl could want that is similar
09:04.42Elkanojust because you can doesn't mean you should ;)
09:04.53orionshockthis is true..
09:09.35orionshockElkano: question, what do u think of this "validation tool" idea that i've thrown together?
09:09.54Elkanonot that much
09:11.33orionshockic
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09:13.58Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5645 Ulduar/YoggSaron.lua: BigWigs: koKR Update
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09:16.38Repo10project-14074: 03Stlke 07master * 29e7e33 / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +2 commits]
09:16.41Repo29e7e33: Removed all externals from .pkgmeta
09:16.44Repoab49062: Converted project to Git
09:18.29Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * f933c8f Modules/Aura (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Ticket 392: Curse highlighting for Shamans not detecting spec swaps.
09:23.12Repo10project-14074: 03Stlke 07master * 922e267 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Removed all external references
09:23.42Repo10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r34 / (4 files in 1 directory): Rewritten the message formatter again.
09:23.45RepoMoved options around to reduce then number of tabs.
09:25.31Adirelleam I sick to use a small state machine to compile CY2's message templates ?
09:29.20sb|workeh.. what? :p
09:31.14Adirellecould not this format working with patterns because of recursion : http://www.wowace.com/projects/castyeller2/pages/custom-announce-templates/
09:31.34Elkano@describe project-14074
09:31.36RepoElkano: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-14074/. GearEvaluator. Evaluates your gear
09:32.28Adirelleso I wrote a 100-lines compiler, that translates a template message in lua code (which is in turn compiled)
09:32.37Repo10shamanwarning: 03Silmano 04v1.1.11 * 8bafb55 /: [new tag, +1 commits]
09:32.40Repo- Fixed an error with locales.
09:33.14Repo10tomtomtargetarrow: 03aloneball * r2 / (12 files in 3 directories): Import.
09:33.18Adirellenow it is maybe overkill
09:35.34EthanCentaurai@describe tomtomtargetarrow
09:35.36RepoEthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/tomtomtargetarrow/. TomTomTargetArrow. TomTomTargetArrow will hijack TomTom to point and show distance to your fellow players in same party or raid as you. Especially useful for healers in BG's if you get disoriented and loose track of...
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09:44.40Repo10tomtomtargetarrow: 03aloneball * r3 TomTomTargetArrow.toc: 1st beta release.
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09:52.25BrunersGnarfoz: tested it yet?
09:52.53Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 04v6.1.8 release * r238 :
09:52.56RepoTagging as v6.1.8 release tag release now that localizations are updated and no new tickets in several days/weeks of the RRQ module being added. 6.1.8 also has a LDB Feed for when Dailies reset.
09:53.44jnwhitehorionshock: anything that'll give me a list of dailies i should go complete?
09:53.51jnwhitehthat is level correct?
09:54.02orionshockeh, no...
09:54.15jnwhitehkk
09:54.19jnwhitehwhat does socd do?
09:54.30jnwhitehis there much clicking for dailies?
09:54.33orionshockthat would require several tables of relations that have to be hardcoded.
09:54.37Xinhuanauto accepts/turnins dailies
09:54.44jnwhitehah kk
09:54.56jnwhitehi can provide you that database =)
09:54.58orionshockjnwhiteh: there is about 5 clicks for each daily at most, 2 depending on other things
09:55.15orionshockjnwhiteh: hardecoded means updated often / w/ each patch
09:55.37jnwhitehaye
09:55.46orionshocki've found this to be rather tasking, but i would welcome it if you want to add it
09:58.12Caleb|2any of you know if there is an easy way to force bigwigs emphasis bar to be colored differently based on an event?
10:03.27Repo10critmiester: 03Xocide 040.3.1 * r18 : Tagging as 0.3.1
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10:11.11Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r5646 Ulduar (2 files in 1 directory): Ulduar: frFR Update
10:16.34Repo10tomtomtargetarrow: 03aloneball * r4 TomTomTargetArrow.toc: beta. comment.
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10:22.03Repo10tomtomtargetarrow: 03aloneball * r5 TomTomTargetArrow.toc: beta. beta.
10:22.45Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r5647 Ulduar (2 files in 1 directory): Ulduar: frFR Update
10:22.52vhaarrCaleb|2: if anyone knows, it's me
10:23.14Caleb|2so ? :P
10:23.52vhaarrno, there's no way to do that
10:24.00Caleb|2doh too bad
10:24.45Caleb|2what I wanted is basically when Yogg is channeling Lunatic Gaze, make it appear red, and when Lunatic Gaze is on cooldown, make it appear green
10:24.53Caleb|2both of those timers are < 10 sec
10:25.04Caleb|2so they'd always be at the emphasis bar
10:26.11TF_ShinjaCaleb|2: grats for Algalon
10:26.22Caleb|2thx TF_Shinja
10:26.32Caleb|2hopefully 25 man falls today too
10:26.46TF_Shinjawe'll see
10:27.07Caleb|2funny cuz if you asked me like 2 weeks ago I'd swear that we will kill 25 man before 10 man :D
10:27.17TF_ShinjaAryu seems also confident
10:27.20Caleb|2guess we got quite some gear upgrade in that two weeks
10:27.32Caleb|2Aryu went crazy on the kill
10:27.38Caleb|2he was screaming on vent like never before
10:27.39TF_Shinjabut he told me that the 25 men version is buggy like hell ;s
10:27.51Caleb|2yeah it is
10:27.59Venara|afkNeoTron: *poke*
10:28.11Caleb|2it basically makese you loose some time on tries, but nothing that'd make or brake a try
10:28.16Caleb|2bug mostly happens only after a wipe
10:28.24TF_Shinjaok ok
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10:29.13TF_Shinjait's not for tomorrow i'll see it in my case, because of Mimiron 25 HM :D
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10:30.32Repo10caser: 03Sunseth * r9 Core.lua: This is very much the newest commit
10:33.13Groktarmakes murloc noises
10:34.32Groktarlike, whenever i'm watch tv alone
10:34.44Groktarand someone gets eaten by a shark or blown up or something
10:34.52Groktari make murloc noises
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11:30.39Repo10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r5648 Ulduar/Freya.lua: BigWigs: ruRU update
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11:37.50Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5649 Ulduar/Freya.lua:
11:37.53RepoAdd the elder names behind the hard mode ability descriptions, I can never remember which elder grants what ability so now I can look it up easily.
11:39.32vhaarrwould anyone cry if I removed the Sunbeam warnings from Freya?
11:39.54vhaarrI've had them turned off last 2 weeks and I haven't really noticed caring about it
11:40.22EthanCentauraiprobably
11:40.29vhaarryou'd probably cry?
11:40.39EthanCentauraino not me :P
11:40.48EthanCentauraiI meant someone is bound to cry
11:41.26Repo10grim-reaper: 03StingerSoft * r74 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): added ruRU
11:41.30Stanzillaour people still fry themselves in it, so yeah
11:41.54EthanCentauraiI've never been to Ulduar anyway so I don't know what it does
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11:46.58hasteStanzilla: forgot to tell you, but it's up again now
11:47.10Stanzillahaste: ah thanks :)
11:47.42hastepoor guy spent 12h cleaning up a mess someone else made :(
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11:54.57Stanzillahehe
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11:57.17sb|workvhaarr: is it even possible to get out?
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11:58.53vhaarrsb|work: get out as in run away from the sunbeam?
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12:07.09sb|workvhaarr: yup
12:07.31sb|workget out of the sunbeam-hit-zone :p
12:08.15StanzillaI would leave it in
12:10.06Kalroth<vhaarr> would anyone cry if I removed the Sunbeam warnings from Freya?
12:10.14KalrothSunbeam is fine, you can't avoid them anyways
12:10.23KalrothSun Beam is a different beast though :p
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12:12.57GrumKalroth: euh which one is which? :D
12:13.08GrumSun Beam you can avoid
12:13.13Grumand you should do /say when you get it on your face
12:13.19KalrothSunbeam is the moonfire spell she casts on players
12:13.23Grumand that is how it was now right?
12:13.43KalrothSun Beam is the ability that Brightleaf adds to the fight, where columns of sun spawns on players
12:13.57Kalrothand gives them a debuff that hits everything within 10 yards
12:14.03Grumthat one you can give a border warning for, 'YOU ARE A MORON STANDING IN TEH BEAM'
12:14.20Grumis it really 10 yards?
12:14.24KalrothNo, the players don't get a Sun Beam debuff, it's called something else
12:14.24Grumthat is quite a long distance
12:14.52Kalrothhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=62865
12:14.57Kalrothand it's 5 yards :p
12:15.03Kalroth(for 10 seconds)
12:15.14Grumthat is what you get for standing in it i think
12:15.17kenlyricit should work like the half-life 2 suppression beam. instantly vaporize the player, permanently
12:15.18Kalrothyes
12:15.50Kalrothyou don't get a debuff called Sun Beam on you, so the only warning you can do is on the Unstable Energy debuff
12:15.54Grummm you retain that buff after you run out of it?
12:16.03KalrothI'm 99% sure you do
12:16.14Grumisnt that the 'aura' the buff itself has?
12:16.21Grumerm the beam
12:16.42Grumso yes you get hit by Unstable Energy but you are not becoming a source hiting people 5 yards around you
12:17.48kenlyric"Take all of Doom's problems, then compound them with the fact that nobody ever really liked the franchise to begin with, and you've got Dungeon Siege"
12:18.03GrumDungeon Siege was actually great fun
12:18.16kenlyricthe movie?
12:18.22kenlyricthis is the movie
12:18.51Grumeuuh!?
12:18.56Grumoh mmz :p
12:19.02Grumstop taking about movies!
12:19.04KalrothAhh, you may be right Grum
12:19.18KalrothUnstable Energy is applied to the Sun Beam, not the player(s)
12:19.20Grumi am not 100% sure Kalroth
12:19.28KalrothI just checked StasisCL
12:19.29Grumbut i know that you stop 'dying' when you dont stand in the beam
12:19.46Grumand the buff says that it does dmg to 'enemies within X yards' that would mean you wouldnt get dmg yourself if you had it
12:19.51Kalrothyes
12:19.52Grumbut then what would dmg you when standing in the beam?
12:20.18Kalrothfrom SCL
12:20.19Kalroth[Sun Beam #2] Unstable Energy dot [Dragum] 5004 (3336 resisted)
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12:20.38KalrothWouldn't the source be another player, if the dot was applied to players
12:20.47Grumyeah
12:20.56Grumthat i what i thought
12:21.06Grumthe beams are spawned on people right?
12:21.13Kalrothyes
12:21.24Grumdo you get proper combatlog messages for that?
12:21.25KalrothAnd if people don't move, they get fucked by the dot :p
12:21.31Kalrothonly from the dot damage
12:21.32Grumor just the application of the dot if people dont run?
12:21.39Grumkk
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12:21.44Repo10tourguide-midsummerfestival: 03ethancentaurai 07master * b5372ca / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
12:21.46Repob5372ca: Touch the .toc and the changelog.
12:21.49Repo7b88345: Completed Horde guide is completed!
12:21.49KalrothYou only get a spawn notice of Sun Beam creature, you don't get who it spawns on
12:21.55Repo10tourguide-midsummerfestival: 03ethancentaurai 04v0.1-beta * 897839f /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.1-beta
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12:39.59sylvanaarAdirelle that substitution stuff looks neat
12:41.11Adirellesylvanaar: ty
12:41.46Arrowmasterwhen does midsummer start?
12:42.04TF_Shinjanever !
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12:43.34EthanCentauraiJune 21st
12:43.37StanzillaArrowmaster: 21st june
12:43.38Stanzilladamn
12:43.40Stanzilla:U(
12:43.57EthanCentaurai~hug Stanzilla
12:43.58purlACTION sneaks up on Stanzilla and suddenly hugs Stanzilla tightly
12:44.53Adirellesylvanaar: the compiler code is in CY2 Formatter.lua
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12:50.49sylvanaarAdirelle i think you are trying to solve the same basic problem i was when i wrote prat2, having to work with patterns to match other patterns is really messy
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12:54.13Adirellesylvanaar: lua patterns can't recursion
12:54.36Adirelles/can't/can't handle/
12:55.02sylvanaarthey can - its just very ugly
12:55.07Adirelleand well, it is not really recursion the issue, but paired tokens, e.g. { }
12:56.00Adirellehrm, wait... didn't noticed that %b{} thingy
12:56.31sylvanaaryou can build patterns to match other patterns by escaping the %% %%%%
12:56.38Adirellelua> string.find('%b{}', '{xy}')
12:56.39lua_botAdirelle: nil
12:56.49Adirellelua> string.find('{xy}', '%b{}')
12:56.50lua_botAdirelle: 1, 4
12:56.57Adirellelua> string.find('{xy}', '(%b{})')
12:56.57lua_botAdirelle: 1, 4, {xy}
12:57.07Adirellelua> string.find('zerzerz{{xy}zerrzzer}zerre', '(%b{})')
12:57.08lua_botAdirelle: 8, 21, {{xy}zerrzzer}
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12:57.26Adirelleinteresting
12:58.03Adirelleanyway, the compiler gives better checking and error messages
12:59.45sylvanaarlua> string.match(string.match('{%%s{cde}fg}', '(%b{})'), '(%b{})')
12:59.45lua_botsylvanaar: {%%s{cde}fg}
13:00.33sylvanaarthat wasnt what i wanted
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13:03.31Grumappears you need to strip the pattern you are matching, so:
13:03.39Grumlua> string.match(string.match('{%%s{cde}fg}', '(%b{})'):sub(2,-2), '(%b{})')
13:03.39lua_botGrum: {cde}
13:03.50Grumstill meh :)
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13:05.11Adirellelua> string.gsub('{eazeaze{qsddqs}ezerrze}', '%b{}', "bla")
13:05.11lua_botAdirelle: bla, 1
13:05.30Adirellelua> string.gsub('{eazeaze{qsddqs}ezerrze}', '(%b{})', function(m) return m:sub(2,-2) end)
13:05.30lua_botAdirelle: eazeaze{qsddqs}ezerrze, 1
13:06.06Adirellelua> string.gsub('{eazeaze{qsddqs}ezerrze}-{xx', '(%b{})', function(m) return m:sub(2,-2) end)
13:06.07lua_botAdirelle: eazeaze{qsddqs}ezerrze-{xx, 1
13:06.12Adirellelua> string.gsub('{eazeaze{qsddqs}ezerrze}-{xx}', '(%b{})', function(m) return m:sub(2,-2) end)
13:06.12lua_botAdirelle: eazeaze{qsddqs}ezerrze-xx, 2
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13:06.50Grumerr that one is wonky:)
13:07.00kadrahilo.O
13:07.08Grumoh nah it 'strips' the first level of balanced {}S
13:07.44Grumlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1}{1{2{3}2}}', '(%b{})', function(m) return m:sub(2,-2) end)
13:07.44lua_botGrum: 1{2{3}}11{2{3}2}, 2
13:09.57Grumlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(m) return m:sub(2,-2) end)
13:09.58lua_botGrum: {12{3}112{3}2, 3
13:10.14Grumahah that just cant be right :D
13:10.30Grumbut it is :D
13:11.17Grummmm why does that start with a {1 ... that is odd
13:11.49Grumoh i fail (
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13:18.26nicoli_show cheesy
13:18.34steevbanged our heads against the wall for about an hour and a half on mimiron last night (10)
13:19.30kadrahili know the feeling, we banged our head against the wall for 5 hours against thorim hardmode 25 man the other night :(
13:19.39steevouch
13:19.44kadrahil300g repair bill
13:19.47kadrahillol
13:19.48steevwe haven't tried any hardmodes yet
13:19.59steevbut we've gotten freya down in 25
13:20.02kadrahilnice!
13:20.44steevi died almost immediately on the stupid pods
13:20.53kadrahilon freya?
13:21.01steevand i need to figure out wtf keeps causing my system to massively lag whenever i die
13:21.02Kaelteng'morning
13:21.05steevyeah
13:21.09kadrahilheh
13:21.12steevi start to move
13:21.16EthanCentauraimorning Kaelten :)
13:21.19kadrahili was one of the few in our raid that actually got out of the exploding roots
13:21.19steevand then bam, game freezes and im dead
13:21.25kadrahilpeople would just stand in them
13:21.37kadrahil(freya with one watcher up)
13:22.09nicoli_smorning Kaelten
13:22.20sylvanaar<PROTECTED>
13:22.29sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(m) return m:sub(-1,-2) end)
13:22.29lua_botsylvanaar: {111, 3
13:22.31steevi'd like to try some of the hard mode stuff, but i need better gear
13:22.34sylvanaargood stuff
13:22.42steevi still haven't gotten into a damn naxx 25 since switching servers
13:22.51steevi can push 4k dps and can't get into a damn pug
13:23.16sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(m) return m:sub(1,-1) end)
13:23.16lua_botsylvanaar: {1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}, 3
13:24.58EthanCentaurailua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}}', '(%b{})', function(m) return m:sub(1,-1) end)
13:24.58lua_botEthanCentaurai: {1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}}, 1
13:25.00sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', gsub)
13:25.01lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: bad argument #3 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected)
13:25.12Adirellelua> local f f = function(t) return t:gsub('(%b{})', f) end return string.gsub('{1}{2}', '(%b{})', f)
13:25.12lua_botAdirelle: C stack overflow
13:25.18sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '%b{}', gsub)
13:25.18lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: bad argument #3 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected)
13:25.27Adirellelua> local f f = function(t) return t:sub(2,-2):gsub('(%b{})', f) end return string.gsub('{1}{2}', '(%b{})', f)
13:25.27lua_botAdirelle: 12, 2
13:25.32Adirellelua> local f f = function(t) return t:sub(2,-2):gsub('(%b{})', f) end return string.gsub('{1}{2{34}}', '(%b{})', f)
13:25.32lua_botAdirelle: 1234, 2
13:25.35sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})(%b{})', gsub)
13:25.35lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: bad argument #3 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected)
13:25.42Adirellelua> local f f = function(t) return '<<'..t:sub(2,-2):gsub('(%b{})', f)..'>>' end return string.gsub('{1}{2{34}}', '(%b{})', f)
13:25.42lua_botAdirelle: <<1>><<2<<34>>>>, 2
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13:29.03sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(txt) return gsub(txt, '(%b{})')
13:29.03lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>'
13:29.16sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(txt) return gsub(txt, '(%b{})') end )
13:29.16lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'gsub' (a nil value)
13:29.26sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(txt) return string.gsub(txt, '(%b{})') end )
13:29.26lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: bad argument #3 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected)
13:29.56sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', string.gsub)
13:29.57lua_botsylvanaar: bad argument #2 to '?' (string expected, got no value)
13:30.38nicoli_sman thats a fucked up looking regex
13:30.50sylvanaaryou should have seen yesterday
13:30.58Adirellelua> string.match("bbb", "(a?b+)+")
13:30.58lua_botAdirelle: nil
13:31.12sylvanaaryou cant
13:31.16sylvanaarrepeat captures
13:31.31kadrahili need to be more careful with my CC charges
13:31.32sylvanaaror use alternation
13:31.36kadrahili've run up $700 in my first month
13:31.46kadrahilnothing i can't afford to pay off but that was a bit much
13:32.54sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '{(%.-)}', print)
13:32.54lua_botsylvanaar: , {1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}, 1
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13:33.27sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '{([{}]-)}', print)
13:33.27lua_botsylvanaar: , {1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}, 1
13:33.47sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '{([^}]-)}', print)
13:33.48lua_botsylvanaar: 1{2{3, , 2{3, {1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}, 3
13:34.46Repo10big-wigs: 03yoshimo * r5650 Ulduar (2 files in 1 directory): Freay (Elder) & YoggSaron :deDE updates
13:34.59yoshimodammit typo ;)
13:35.10sylvanaarlua> print(string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '{([^}]-)}', ""))
13:35.10lua_botsylvanaar: }112}, 3
13:35.18kadrahilFreay!
13:35.29kadrahilmust be Freya's sister
13:35.53sylvanaarlua> print(string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '{([^{}]-)}', ""))
13:35.53lua_botsylvanaar: {1{2}11{22}, 3
13:39.07EthanCentaurailua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}}1{}1{2{3}2}}', '(%b{})', function(m) return m:sub(1,-1) end)
13:39.07lua_botEthanCentaurai: {1{2{3}}}1{}1{2{3}2}}, 3
13:39.12sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '{([^}]-)}', string.dump)
13:39.13lua_botsylvanaar: bad argument #1 to '?' (function expected, got string)
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13:40.02sylvanaarlua> string.dump(string.gmatch('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '{([^}]-)}'))
13:40.02lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: unable to dump given function
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13:41.47sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(txt) return string.gsub(txt, '{(%.*)}') end )
13:41.48lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: bad argument #3 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected)
13:42.21Mecis there a way to run a slash command from a script, something like loadstring("/wave") etc
13:42.27sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(txt) return string.gsub(txt, '{(%.*)}', print) end )
13:42.28lua_botsylvanaar: , {1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}, 3
13:43.21EthanCentaurai<PROTECTED>
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13:43.57Meci dont know that it will specifically be an emote
13:44.03sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(txt) return txt:gsub("[{}]", "") end )
13:44.03lua_botsylvanaar: {12311232, 3
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13:45.36EthanCentaurai<PROTECTED>
13:45.39sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(txt, n) return txt:gsub("[{}]", "", n) end )
13:45.39lua_botsylvanaar: {12311232, 3
13:45.49sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(txt, n) return txt:gsub("[{}]", "", n-1) end )
13:45.49lua_botsylvanaar: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'n' (a nil value)
13:46.15EthanCentauraiof course, not all addons use that
13:47.12sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(txt) local t,n = txt:gsub("[{}]", "") return t,n-1 end )
13:47.12lua_botsylvanaar: {12311232, 3
13:47.39sylvanaarlua> string.gsub('{1{2{3}}1{}1{2{3}2}', '(%b{})', function(txt) local t,n = txt:gsub("[{}]", "") return t,n/2 end )
13:47.39lua_botsylvanaar: {12311232, 3
13:48.12EthanCentauraisylvanaar: the preceding { is because there's one less } to close it
13:48.26EthanCentauraitakes a stab in the dark
13:48.39sylvanaar~ /script loadstring("run('/wave')")
13:48.54sylvanaarkinda circuitous though
13:49.06Mecwell i dont know until runtime what the string will be
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13:49.47Mecso i will have a string that could be like "/lsomeaddon somecommand" or "/run dosomething()" or "/wave"
13:50.03Mecbut i think theres a RunMacro(..) command, looking for it now
13:50.19EthanCentauraislash commands =/= macros
13:50.47EthanCentaurai!api RunMacro
13:50.48lua_botRunMacro: Runs the specified macro (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/RunMacro)
13:50.49sylvanaarripped off from ace http://paste.wowace.com/682/
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13:53.48p4aved"NOTE: Your video settings have changed."
13:53.55p4avedwtf does taht mean, i just patched to 3.1.2
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13:58.00sylvanaarok here's my implementatino of tab-complete for /dump TableName
13:58.08sylvanaarhttp://paste.wowace.com/683/
13:58.18sylvanaari couldnt get it working exactly right
13:59.26sylvanaaronce it matched the first table and you pressed ., it did not look up the keys in the new base table
14:00.01sylvanaarie /dump Pr <tab> -> /dump Prat -> /dump Prat. <tab> -> /dump
14:01.37sylvanaari cannot comprehend prematches at all - or how to move the tab complete so that  a completion becomes a prematch for a new completion
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14:02.52sylvanaaronly prematch that worked right was "/dump "
14:03.21nevcairielmaybe because there is no space
14:03.28nevcairieli have no idea, never understood how acetab works =P
14:05.12sylvanaaryeah
14:05.21sylvanaari think you are absolutely right
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14:08.18steevawesome!
14:08.34steevPlayers can no longer become saved to an instance when they aren't in the instance during a boss kill.
14:12.11SunTsusteev: Yeah, and you get asked if you want to accept an id if you join afterwards. If only they could tell which bosses are dead in that ID..
14:12.32steevyou could always ask :)
14:12.45sylvanaarit should the raidid in your guild info
14:13.11SunTsusteev: yeah, you could ask. "Yeah, only xy is dead" and the you find out that only that guy is still alive ;)
14:13.39SunTsus/the/then/
14:14.15steevthose are the risks you take with pugs :)
14:14.16Repo10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r35 / (2 files in 1 directory): Validate message templates on input.
14:14.19RepoValidate announce spell names on input.
14:14.22RepoMore GUI layout tweaking.
14:15.28SunTsusteev: I know, I just say that it would be nice to have a little bit more information before you accept
14:15.43kadrahilspeaking of pugs
14:16.02kadrahilmy guild (top guild on the server) filled a vault 25 run with half of our alts
14:16.08kadrahilwe get in there and the leader was like
14:16.17kadrahil"did you guys do any gear checking before inviting?"
14:16.35kadrahilwe're all in half blues and heroic gear and my hunter was in there in full level 70 gear
14:16.40steevand you guys were like lol gear checking?
14:16.43kadrahilyeah haha
14:16.52sylvanaarit should check for the instance achievment
14:17.12kadrahilwe still wiped on emalon a few times until we were booted from the instance from losing wg
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14:17.16kadrahilbecause the healers were bad
14:17.19steevnot let you do 25 til you've done 10?
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14:17.45SunTsukadrahil: I was asked whether I was doing more than 3k dps when I wanted to go to Utgarde Keep heroic the other day..
14:17.53kadrahilSunTsu: lol!
14:17.59sylvanaarwow
14:18.04sylvanaartotally out of touch
14:18.10kadrahilSunTsu: my old tbc main in level 70 gear does 2.5k D:
14:18.13steevuk heroic is srs bsns
14:18.22kadrahilas if people think 3k is good at 80
14:18.35kadrahili bring up the fact that i was doing 3.3k at 70 in swp
14:18.37steevas if dps matters in a heroic
14:18.42kadrahilthat too
14:18.53SunTsukadrahil: but does it really matter in something like Utgarde Keep?
14:18.59kadrahilSunTsu: no.
14:19.07sylvanaarKEEP
14:19.13sylvanaarnot event Pinnacle
14:19.17SunTsuYeah
14:19.31SunTsuI really was wtf..
14:19.34kadrahilSunTsu: people just forget that their terrible mains weren't doing more than 2k dps when they hit 80
14:19.42kadrahilSunTsu: so they get all arrogant now with pug selection
14:19.45sylvanaaryou should have said - im wearing clean underwear
14:20.25sylvanaarcome see for yourself
14:20.59kadrahilthat pisses me off more than anything
14:21.03SunTsuYesterday I wanted to pug for VF with my rogue alt and I got a whisper "dps?" - my answer was "no, healer"
14:21.11kadrahilis how arrogant people are in pug selection now in regards to gear
14:21.33kadrahilSunTsu: rofl
14:21.51sylvanaarwell, i tried to do a pug mally for fun - and i checked achievments and like 1 person had done it
14:21.54p4avedTBH wen i look for pugs, i look for classes that buff the one or 2 guild dps i can dig up
14:22.04kadrahilSunTsu: this rogue in my old BT guild started collecting priest healing gear when it started to be disenchanted... he had a full healing set and would sit around in org
14:22.07sylvanaari gave them one wipe to see the fight - and bailed
14:22.07p4avedliek for heroics i mean
14:22.12kadrahilSunTsu: he got so many tells asking him to heal a heroic
14:23.16SunTsukadrahil: Yeah, I got asked to heal with my mage, too
14:23.30SunTsuAt Pinnacle heroic
14:23.39kadrahil;/
14:24.01sylvanaarif i heal on my main i can carry 4 bad players - thats what they want
14:24.18kadrahilyeah
14:24.21SunTsuBut the guy whispering "dps?" kept flaming me, how dumb I was not to know what dps meant...
14:24.37SunTsuaccording to him it's "damage pro secound"
14:25.09SunTsuwell, at least one of three words right
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14:25.42nicoli_spro?
14:25.43sylvanaardps is a stupid metric - its so gameable
14:26.05SunTsusylvanaar: Yeah, and it's totally situation dependend
14:26.13sylvanaardamage over fight time ~= dps
14:26.18kadrahilback in BC i leveled a priest alt to 70 for fun.. every single day i got asked by some random, "U HELAR!??!???"
14:26.32kadrahilEVERY. DAY.
14:26.34sylvanaarlol, i have 2 healers
14:26.53sylvanaari want to buy a rogue/mage account
14:27.04kadrahilreported!
14:27.13steevthe best is when you put the comment in the lfg tool "I don't have any tanking gear" - you get the tells "Hey can you please tank?"
14:27.20kenlyrickadrahil: banned!
14:27.25kadrahilkenlyric: D:
14:27.30sylvanaarcaremeter: 0..|.........................10
14:27.41kadrahilsylvanaar: lol, i'm kidding
14:27.45sylvanaari know
14:27.47sylvanaarso am i
14:27.49kadrahil:P
14:28.18DaemonaFunkeh` BadBoy missed this: http://ace.pastey.net/114524
14:28.40sylvanaarbut i wasnt about the first part
14:29.16Fisker-so Kaelten
14:29.19Fisker-DIDYOUFIXIT?!
14:29.31SunTsukadrahil: BTW. people always have been that arrogant. In TBC I once was told I couldn't pug for Gruul, because my equipment was too bad, when I was in ZA gear
14:30.44steevheh
14:30.52Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r1866 ARLFrame.lua: Replaced my additions of wipe() with twipe().
14:30.57steevpeople got mad cuz i won the dragonspine trophy on my ret pally
14:31.12steevZOMG ITS SO MUCH BETTER FOR ME... im like, uh, what?
14:31.53jnwhitehYOU JUST HAVE 3000 +HEALING TO HEAL IN THIS HEROIC
14:31.55jnwhitehk.. peace.
14:32.31kadrahilSunTsu: lol
14:32.55steevthis was the same person that i ran through heroic mgt every day for almost 3 weeks so that they could get not only the tanking trinket, but also the dps trinket (which i passed on the first time it dropped so that they could get it even though they knew it was the only item I wanted out of the entire instance)
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14:33.21steevand then they refused to run mgt at all after they got both trinkets
14:33.24Torhalsteev: Did you tell him to DIAF?
14:33.28steevi had no sympathy for them
14:33.48TF_ShinjaDIAF ?
14:33.52steevdie in a fire
14:33.54p4aveddie in a fire
14:34.07TF_Shinjadon't die in Archimonde fire !
14:34.23SunTsusteev: Yeah, I like people telling me that I am undergeared, because it makes it easy to recognize PUGs I don't want to be in ;)
14:34.29TF_Shinjaok, it wasn't funny
14:34.38Tamarothyou tried though
14:34.55steevwe forgive you, you play tf, so its understandable
14:35.16TF_Shinjatf stand for ?
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14:35.31p4avedteam fortress
14:35.51TF_ShinjaThe Fallen / EU-Ysondre
14:35.52TF_Shinja;p
14:38.41steevjust register shinja with nickserv :-P
14:39.42TF_ShinjaI've done it long long time ago, I've lost the pass ;s
14:41.40SunTsuTF_Shinja: Just ask a staffer to release the nick
14:42.00SunTsuTF_Shinja: /stats p
14:42.24TF_Shinjahum, I'll have a look
14:43.39SunTsu/who freenode/staff/* seems to work better
14:44.06SunTsuhints at Dave2
14:45.49mitch0is +hit necessary for pvp?
14:46.35steevsomewhat
14:46.41steevbut its not a very high number
14:47.05mitch0so I can skip +hit talents for pvp, right? most probably my gear will have enough +hit for that
14:47.20mitch0guess 30% dispel resist is better than +2 hit
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14:48.03TF_Shinjamitch0: it depend of your class
14:48.37mitch0mage
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14:49.10mitch0(frost)
14:51.03mitch0although the 0/0/71 talent spec has a certain fun-value...
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14:59.31Fisker-Ackis
14:59.32Fisker-i lol'd
14:59.42AckisWork?
14:59.47Fisker-sec
15:00.01Fisker-http://i43.tinypic.com/124vade.jpg
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15:04.39AdirelleFunkeh`: ping ?
15:04.53Funkeh`?
15:05.44Stanzilla<3 Funkeh`
15:05.48AckisWorklol Fisker-
15:06.54SunTsu.o0( "Yo dawg, I know you like trolling, so we put a computer in your computer so that you can troll while you troll"? )
15:06.59AdirelleFunkeh`: have you some feedback about badboy with non-english clients ?
15:08.00Funkeh`like?
15:08.32Adirellelike is it working or not ? I'm wondering how efficient is it at catching non-english spam
15:08.55Funkeh`it works and catches spam in all clients
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15:09.30SunTsuAdirelle: I use deDE and it works like a charm
15:09.45SunTsuNever ever saw a bit of spam again
15:09.48Adirelleok, the idea is not really the client, but the language the spam is written it ^^
15:09.58Adirelles/written it/written in/
15:10.33Funkeh`yes it supports all languages
15:11.01EthanCentauraiFunkeh`: while you are here, Daemona posted this earlier http://ace.pastey.net/114524
15:12.12Funkeh`yes ive already fixed that
15:12.17Funkeh`ill release it later today
15:12.43EthanCentauraiok
15:15.35Repo10yata: 03rowaweb * r73 Localization/deDE.lua:
15:15.38Repo- Fixed german localization. please type /yata and choose "Reset"
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15:25.01Fisker-slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout
15:33.45Zeksieanyway to get a list of 'mods that use library X' without downloading... everything :)
15:33.56Zeksieis that info even stored.
15:34.31Elkanojust go to the lib's page on eg wowace and lock who backreferences
15:34.40TorhalZeksie: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libsharedmedia-3-0/
15:34.46TorhalLook under Facts
15:34.52TorhalReverse relationships: 140
15:34.59Zeksiegot it. thx
15:35.00Elkanoexactly :)
15:35.01TorhalElkano: Yola
15:35.04Elkanoand morning Torhal
15:35.26TorhalNoticed you added some SetParent() calls
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15:36.08Elkanoyeah
15:36.25Elkanoyou stored the lines/columns by key but parented to a frame
15:36.38TorhalGah
15:37.04TorhalThat may very well fix a plethora of recycling issues.
15:37.07Elkanoso acquire - release - acquire with new key (aka new frames) - set scale -> initial frames are scaled, too
15:37.13TorhalAye.
15:37.46TorhalMakes sense why ARL was hijacking ElkFactions
15:37.53Elkanoyeah ^^
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15:39.04GnarfozElkano: I was getting errors from GuildFu/FriendFu recently (after your last update), when I opened the raidframe in combat (after not having it opened out of combat before in that session) - misattributed error or is this possible? ^^
15:39.27Elkanoin theory, it shouldn't
15:39.30Gnarfoz~seen pastamancer
15:39.33purlpastamancer is currently on #curseforge (23h 54m 29s), last said: 'haha'.
15:39.33Elkanohaven't had any
15:39.57Elkanoso hard to tell without the error
15:40.12GnarfozI'll pastey it if I see it again
15:40.21GnarfozI think I accidentally cleared bugsack that session ^^
15:40.26Elkano^^
15:42.03Pneumatusi wish firefox wouldnt take up like 10mb a tab :<
15:42.40TorhalI've discovered that WoW running under Wine crashes much more with Firefox open.
15:42.46Grumstop watching pr0n in it then
15:42.48TorhalFriggin' weird.
15:43.13Pneumatuswith ~20 tabs opened, firefox sits at like 250mb memory :<
15:43.32TorhalI only open around 10 at a time when forum-reading
15:43.44TorhalAnd after a few hours, it'll have 650MB resident.
15:43.51Daemonanerd-tastic http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/Xo5AHEOt0Lo/ravage-transformer-usb-drive-will-hold-2gb-or-roughly-2000-pictures-of-megan-fox
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16:36.32EthanCentaurai@describe badboy_ccleaner
16:36.33RepoEthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/badboy_ccleaner/. BadBoy_CCleaner. BadBoy Crap Cleaner is a plugin to BadBoy for removing crap from your chat without reporting Currently will scan all official Blizzard custom channels only (gen/trade/etc) and filters out the...
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16:40.10Adirelle"funkydude (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude." ^^
16:40.19Funkeh`I am your god
16:40.31TorhalAdirelle: He's taking notes from Ackis.
16:40.38durcynconflict of interests, tsk
16:41.21durcynAdirelle: you mind if i commit a patch to SSR for not casting while in a vehicle
16:41.43Adirelledurcyn: go on
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16:43.54Venara@project gridstatussanity
16:43.54RepoVenara: http://www.wowace.com/projects/gridstatussanity/. GridStatusSanity. Game: WoW. Greltok (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 minutes ago
16:45.07quiescenssanity is overrated
16:46.00Venaraalso, there shouldn't really be a need for such an addon. unfortunately people are too dumb to check their sanity by themselves
16:46.40rubikyeah, it's good so you can yell at the noobs
16:47.04nevcairieldoesnt bigwigs yell at people now that have low sanity?
16:47.16durcynthe game itself yells at people with low sanity
16:47.17Venarait does nev
16:47.32nevcairielwell if bigwigs yells at them, i see my outgoing whispers =p
16:47.37nevcairieland can yell more
16:47.42Venarayep ;D
16:47.56quiescensso much yelling o.o
16:49.05nevcairielyelling is all i do when i raid lead
16:49.21quiescens):
16:50.01[Ammo]'get your eyes of the goddamn porn and in the game you idiot!'
16:50.18Venarahehe. yesterday i had to yell at one of our tanks
16:50.30Venaracause you could hear his TV through voice activation
16:50.34durcyni've had to watch CHAT_MSG_ADDON for people playing peggle recently
16:50.36Venara(during the boss fight)
16:51.23fewynif you're not yelling while raid leading YER DOIN IT RONG
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16:51.35Venaraindeed
16:52.02Fisker-btw EvilJohn-
16:52.04Fisker-i was teh right
16:52.05nevcairieldurcyn: we should write an addon for stuff like that =p
16:52.21rubik2500 dps from a DK on Vezax-10 is pathetic, right?
16:52.27nevcairielyes
16:52.34durcynlibfail would be a good place for it
16:52.35Venarayeah, peggle and the other thing, what was it called
16:52.36rubik(cause i just went off on this dumbass DK in our guild forums)
16:52.36fewyn2500 dps sounds low no matter what you are
16:52.47quiescenswhat if you are a tank
16:52.49fewynbejewlled Venara?
16:52.50quiescens!
16:52.57Venarafewyn: yep, that one
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16:53.29rubikfewyn: exactly.. any class in a dps spec with decent gear should do better than 2500 dps on a target dummy without raid buffs.. i think
16:53.48Venaraimho blizzard should implement an event for clouds on yogg-saron
16:54.06fewyni went on a semi-pug naxx25 the other day and i was pulled 4k dps on most boss fights
16:54.09Gnarfozthey said they'd be doing something, I told you :p
16:54.11fewynat the very least
16:54.14fewyncloser to 5k
16:54.30durcynconsidering even a naked warlock can do a thousand.. yeah.
16:54.34Venarai know Gnarfoz, but they should do it FASTER :p
16:54.49Gnarfozwho knows, maybe the ninja'd it into 3.1.2
16:54.50Gnarfoz:(
16:55.01fewynomg that's right
16:55.01Venarahopefully
16:55.07fewynthey are doubling spirit for moonkins
16:55.09fewynin this patch
16:55.10fewynSWEET
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17:26.27durcynarmor pen is retardedly good now
17:27.27TarovenRawr for rogues doesn't even have armor pen as a dps stat yet >.>;;
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17:36.41kadrahilwell
17:36.44kadrahilthe dpsdk model is supposed to be getting a lot more work soon
17:36.55kadrahilsince the author is out of school for the summer now ;______;
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17:53.24EvilJohn-<Fisker-> i was teh right
17:53.26EvilJohn-how so
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17:59.03steevtake 2?
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18:00.03steevwhat is take 2
18:00.14Axodioussigh, beginning to regret converting my warcraft account to b.net
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18:00.38NeoTronso can someone tell my why the hell general would be hard in 10 man? I mean with 6 ranged people how in the hell is it hard to manage mark and stuff
18:00.38Axodioustwice as many problems logging in cause the bnet servers are always off
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18:00.53AxodiousNeoTron less helaing
18:01.04Axodiouswe usually bring 2 healers
18:01.14Axodiousso it hinges even more on dps not getting hit by crash and moving out with mark
18:01.35rubikwe did Vezax-10 with 2 healers last week but we had 3 this week
18:01.51Axodiousif you bring a 3rd for raid healing it’s probably a lot easier
18:01.57Axodiousor even a druid rolling hots on everyone
18:01.58NeoTronAxodious: we had two, then 3, healers
18:02.05rubikbut we have 3 melee and only 3 caster dps
18:02.10NeoTronproblem is these people couldn't do the right thing with mark
18:02.17NeoTronwe had people die from 3-4 mark ticks
18:02.32NeoTronwhich is absolutely rediculous when you're all standing in 1 or 2 places with 3-5 people in each spot
18:02.43NeoTronit's not hard to make sure you have a clear path and run as oon as the debuff hits
18:02.44rubiki hear caster dps loves Vezax as much as us melee love Mimiron
18:02.56Axodiousi like it on my ele shaman
18:02.59Axodious#1 dps :o
18:02.59NeoTronrubik: I swear if I played my warlock there, I'd have no prbolem at all
18:03.08Axodiousyeah warlocks are hacks
18:03.11Axodiousstupid demo portal
18:03.12rubikhehe
18:03.20NeoTronmy warlock friend, when asked in a whisper out of fustration what's so hard, said it is not har
18:03.32Axodiousits really not
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18:03.41Axodiousits stupid ppl going OMG NUMBERRRRRRRRRS
18:03.41NeoTronthat's not the issue. it's trivial, in 10 man, without portals and crap
18:03.50rubiki (feral druid) end up edging out the elem shammy every try so far
18:03.56NeoTron25 man is possibly a bit more challenging due to less space
18:04.00rubik(for #1 dps)
18:04.11NeoTronrubik: yah druids need quite a massive nerf
18:04.30rubikhaha.. doh! not a massive one please
18:04.34NeoTronrubik: two DK's (blood/frost for the enhance shaman like buffs), 1 druid, 1 warrior for BS
18:04.39NeoTronand the druid does 50% more dmg than the dk's
18:05.37NeoTronand number 1 dps by far
18:05.37NeoTronon mimiron
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18:05.37NeoTronon general
18:05.37rubikhaha.. there are some fights where we can "cheat".. staying on heart on XT, ignis when you get thrown in the air, etc.
18:05.38Fisker-wi just offtanked mimiron as dps ;_;
18:05.38Fisker-took him from like 1,5 mill to kill
18:05.38kadrahilNeoTron: druids are insane right now
18:05.38kadrahilNeoTron: our feral broke 10k on hodir
18:05.38NeoTronthey are high
18:05.38rubikmimiron i can usually end up #1.. true
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18:05.42NeoTronwhat is weird is how his dps was about the same as in 25 man while the dk's were a lot lower it seemed
18:05.49kadrahilNeoTron: i get to spec unholy tonight, finally
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18:06.06kadrahiltired of playing gimp frost spec and they need to see my real damage
18:06.11NeoTronrubik: yeah and... ignis, razorscale, xt-002, council - kologarn I topped - .,.. and about 80% or moer of all fights the druid is number 1
18:06.15NeoTronand often by a wide margin
18:06.22Axodioushttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/R0kjSJczj0DbHNJt/sum/damageDone/?s=8107&e=8478
18:06.33Axodiousthere’s one of my vezax kills
18:06.33Axodious;o
18:06.38rubikbut there are also fights where you can't stand behind boss to Shred (kologarn, auriya, etc.)
18:07.09NeoTronAxodious: see your problem is theer's no feral druid :P
18:07.14rubikon kologarn you can cheat with cat swipes on the adds but at least they capped the aoe dmg
18:07.15NeoTronAxodious: or he'd be first!
18:07.24Axodiousnot if i can help it! rawr
18:07.45Axodiousmy main problem is
18:07.50Axodiousstupid people getting me killed with mark
18:07.51Axodious:|
18:08.36NeoTronhttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-YgglgOcXZqA0Whk5/sum/damageDone/?s=4383&e=4681
18:08.39NeoTronI'm Morasia
18:08.48RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/tehtip/. TehTip. copystring (Manager/Author). Approved by funkydude.
18:08.50Axodioustbh if we setup more properly (grouped up close so crashes were closer together) i’d probably have another ~1k dps
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18:09.03Axodiousfor casters, you shouldn’t really be casting much outside of crashes
18:09.13Axodiousand i always find them like half way across the room where a lone healer stands
18:09.20rubikour DK MT got #1 dps on Kologarn-10 last night.. haha
18:09.44Axodiouslol
18:09.52NeoTronI practiced frost dps last night in 10 man
18:09.54rubik4000 dps
18:10.01NeoTronsince UH is worthless on yogg
18:10.29NeoTronand let me say this - after the 2 hours of idiotic wipes on general, we did yogg in like 3 tries
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18:10.32NeoTronit's trivial in 10 man
18:10.34Axodiousi heard our dks going on something about 40k crits or something
18:10.37Axodiousi was like o_O
18:10.47AckisWorkwill be doing Ulduar tonight for the first time :P
18:10.51Tristanianyou should try general hardmode if you think normal is idiotic
18:10.52Tristanian:D
18:10.57durcynAckis: don't fuck up
18:11.27Axodiouswhen you’re on mimiron and you see a red spot on the ground RUN TO IT
18:11.28Axodious:D
18:11.52rubikwe only tried Yogg one night but those clouds are a PITA
18:12.34rubikis it best to wait by the doorway and dps there and have the tank drag the mob before it explodes? (phase 1)
18:12.46NeoTronAxodious: that nuke is just too hard to see
18:12.49Tristanianno
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18:12.50rubikbecause *everyone* was clipping clouds
18:12.52NeoTronif was easier w/o a UH dk though
18:12.59NeoTronsince I didn't confuse me with desecration
18:13.04Tristanianmove with the clouds, dps fast, get them to sara, win
18:13.16Tristanianand switch fast
18:13.17NeoTronin 10 man we just stood in the center
18:13.21NeoTrondoes 10 man have less clouds/
18:13.23hypetechDid you say "everybody dance in the clouds" ?
18:13.27AxodiousNeoTron what spec are you? unholy atm?
18:13.40rubikthe "move with the clouds" part is kind of nuts but we were prolly doing it wrong
18:13.45Tristaniannot really Neo just less people
18:13.54NeoTronAxodious: UH normally, but picked up frost last nught
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18:13.57Tristanianwell you obviously have melee moving out soon
18:14.11Tristanianand ranged not borking it up
18:14.12NeoTronTristanian: thing is, it was trivial to move around the clouds
18:14.13Axodiousyeah im just looking at our kologarn kills, dks are near bottom >_<
18:14.19NeoTronmore people wouldn't affect my ability to do it
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18:14.27NeoTronAxodious: then they are bad? :P
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18:14.29Tristanianyours ? No
18:14.33Tristaniantheirs ? perhaps :p
18:14.33NeoTronor they don't "cheese" the fight
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18:14.48Axodiouswhat do you do to cheese it
18:14.49Tristanianand it only takes really 1-2 more adds
18:14.49NeoTronTristanian: right but my point that I tried to make is that it seemed easier to avoid clouds, for myself, in 10 man
18:14.52Tristanianto call it
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18:14.57Axodiouswe do right arm him right arm him
18:15.01NeoTronAxodious: aoe - pestilence and blood boild
18:15.02Tristanianyeah
18:15.04NeoTronand UB
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18:15.05AxodiousHIS right arm
18:15.13Tristanianneed yogg + 1 next week :s
18:15.20NeoTronand that kill was a 25-trash kill so we basically did right, left, right, left, right, kologarn
18:15.24rubikDK MT #1 dps (3900+) on Kologarn-10: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/Ukw67voGJQRgjkr2/sum/damageDone/?s=682&e=875 (me = Orbu, feral druid)
18:15.30NeoTronso the "cheesed" aoe dps was actually valid in that attempt
18:15.40Axodiousi see
18:16.01Tristanianwill be interesting to see p3 without Thorim
18:16.02Tristanianheh
18:16.03kadrahilso...
18:16.05kadrahilhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jZG0xZfMhIxcdgcqzcsut:LrbMVm
18:16.09kadrahilis what i'm going to run as tonight
18:16.56NeoTronhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Morasia if you want to see what I use
18:17.06NeoTronthe frost spec is my first adventure into frost dps since beta
18:17.17Grumit is low?
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18:17.34NeoTronand with my current gear, it's certainly worse in UH in fights where I can actually use the pet
18:17.51rubikNeoTron: we took a noob (frost) DK last night and he couldn't get higher than 2500 dps on Vezax... so i told him to get his shit together on the guild forums this morning
18:17.56kadrahilfrost isn't that great
18:18.08rubik(on Vezax-10 that is.. but 2500 dps is pathetic)
18:18.09NeoTronrubik: 10 man?
18:18.10kadrahilit requires a fair amount of gear
18:18.45rubiki told him that i don't know much about DKs but he should be doing higher than 2500 dps on a target dummy with no raid buffs
18:18.55NeoTronrubik: check this: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-6C77sqNTVQlTfrc8/?s=10369&e=10721
18:19.02NeoTronI was on add duty
18:19.05kadrahilrubik: if it helps any, i did 3200 on a target dummy with no raid buffs
18:19.08kadrahilrubik: as frost
18:19.27MadrakUmm, I'm updating my mod but its been like.....a year and a half.  Did I lose SVN access because dev.wowace.com isn't accepting my SVN connection
18:19.36rubikkadrahil: yeah.. that sounds good to me.. i'm just guessing his rotation is shit.. he has decent naxx-25 gear
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18:20.36rubikNeoTron: wait.. why do you kill adds on Vezax? our melee is on Vezax 100% of the time.. casters kill adds
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18:20.46AckisWorkMadrak: the entire system has changed
18:20.59rubikand we're doing the tank-doesn't-move-for-entire-fight strat
18:21.45MadrakThanks Ackis.  How should I proceed to update 1 file of m Addon?
18:21.54NeoTronrubik: because casters do more dps if they dont' do it
18:21.55hypetechrubik, some people use melee because of the issue where pets/dots/channeled will break puddles and they don't give regen
18:22.05NeoTronI can deathgrip and I really didn't lose an amazing amount of dps doing it
18:22.19NeoTroncompare synless with the kill and previous attempts and you see why
18:22.24rubikgotcha.. i guess our casters haven't complained so us melee didn't help them
18:22.52AckisWorkMadrak: find the project page on wowace, read some of the kb articles on what's changed (aka the entire system), and check out hte forums... you'll need to come up with a .pkgmeta file (in the kb there's more info) and get the new repo location
18:23.07NeoTronI would have done maybe 500-600 more dps if I wasn't on add duty
18:23.11MadrakThanks....  what a pain.  hehehe
18:23.23NeoTronput simply I{ was tired of wiping
18:23.24Madrakoh how I long for the old days
18:23.29NeoTronbut man the clouds suck
18:23.31AckisWorkit's a lot better than before
18:23.39NeoTronI DG it and it moves right back to where it was before
18:23.47rubikNeoTron: but your casters are doing a shit ton of dps and you guys killed him almost 2 mins faster
18:24.19NeoTronanother reason I did it. casters do more dps
18:24.22NeoTronexcept the druid
18:24.31NeoTronwelk in the kill I guess the druid did worse
18:24.45rubikyou - 352 sec / 31545 dps, us - 445 sec / 21623 dps
18:25.23NeoTroncasters do more dps but not necessarily more damage
18:25.25rubikbut it's still "easy" for us taking our time i guess? we killed him on 3rd try this week and 2nd try (with 2 healers) last week
18:25.35NeoTronthis is our first 10 man kill
18:25.42NeoTronand part of the problem was the healers dying or killing people
18:25.50NeoTronor the tank dying because the healers failed or something
18:26.13rubikyeah.. it's kind of hell on healers from what i saw
18:26.15NeoTronbasically one of the healers there singlehandedly caused quite a few of our 25 man wipes too with not moving with mark
18:26.50NeoTronand like killed 3 or 4 people with one mark by nicelt circlign around them :P
18:27.32AckisWorkwhat website lists boss strats now a days?
18:27.32NeoTronoh shit.. our dk tank might be out this week
18:27.36rubikhow the hell does your druid bust out 4700 dps on mimiron
18:27.38NeoTronI don't want to tank general again
18:27.47NeoTronAckisWork: bosskillers
18:27.50NeoTronAckisWork: for example
18:28.26TristanianMimiron what ? 10 or 25 ?
18:28.28NeoTronrubik: wish I knew.
18:28.30rubik10
18:28.30NeoTronTristanian: 10 man
18:28.38Tristanianah
18:28.39NeoTronhttp://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-6C77sqNTVQlTfrc8/sum/damageDone/?s=2118&e=2601
18:28.59Fisker-hey Ackis
18:29.03Fisker-it's getting hot in here
18:29.05Fisker-if you catch my drift
18:29.19rubikahh.. 2-pc T8 + 2-pc T7 bonuses help
18:29.21NeoTronhe's top dps or close to top dps in just about every right
18:29.30NeoTrons/right/fight/
18:29.32NeoTronin 10 or 25 man
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18:29.48NeoTronmind you, it's nice to have good dps
18:29.58NeoTronit's just ver clear that somethnig is a bit off balance at the moment
18:30.02NeoTronnot amazingly so but a bit
18:30.07rubikand he has the Twisted Visage staff
18:30.08NeoTronand I do agree UH dk's might be a bit op for aoe
18:30.18AckisWorkFisker-: get naked
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18:30.34Tristaniana bit only ? :P
18:30.39Fisker-i am now AckisWork
18:31.08rubikwe (feral druids) scale like shit and our tanking is worst-in-game all of a sudden so cat dps can be a little OP right now
18:31.32Osstia^^
18:31.34Tristanianhttp://stasiscl.lootftw.com/sws/sws-freya-1242676699/ our unholy did almost 7k on Freya + 3 Neo :P
18:31.37rubikand it's mostly because of the ArPen stacking
18:31.37Tristaniannerf imo :p
18:31.47NeoTronTristanian: Lots of aoe there
18:31.49robotuschFisker-, stop trying to run me down in a car :(
18:31.49durcyni dunno, warriors are pretty garbage tanks compared to DKs right now too
18:32.01NeoTrondurcyn: depends on thr fight really
18:32.03rubikstack a shit ton of ArPen and win since we do mostly physical dmg
18:32.05NeoTronfor the most part it doesn't matter
18:32.18NeoTronbut for tanking (not moving) general in 25 man dk's are clearly superior
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18:33.01durcynthe only fight we specifically use a warrior on is freya for the lashers, come to think of it
18:33.47Brunersi hate people thinking im an expert on the time lost proto drake
18:34.11rubikOsstia = Osita from NeoTron's raids?
18:34.27OsstiaNo, sorry to disappoint
18:34.39rubikoh.. haha.. np, just thought i'd ask
18:34.56OsstiaOsstia == random name generated by blizz like 2 months after launch because messedup was against terms of service
18:35.02Osstiaoh how times have changed
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18:37.48Fisker-Osstia is against the tos
18:37.58Osstiahow?
18:38.10Osstianot that i care, they chose it, and i got stuck with it
18:38.58nicoli_scuz its an acronym
18:39.03durcynBruners: TELL ME ABOUT TLPD
18:39.10nicoli_sopen source software * * *
18:40.21Osstia`ahh, i hears Ostia is from some other game.  a City or something
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18:42.47durcynthere's apparently a place named Ossetia in russia
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18:47.58ckknighthey all, if we were to host a contest for addon authors only, what do you think it should be like?
18:48.05durcynckknight: penis length
18:48.14nicoli_sthe person withthe name most like mine wins
18:48.17nicoli_sand im allowed to enter
18:48.26Osstiahehe
18:48.33nicoli_sand the prize is a speed boat
18:48.40hypetechckknight, most useful new idea imo
18:49.06dranorOsstia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostia_Antica
18:49.19dranorit was a city from the Roman Empire
18:49.21Kraftmanhave different categories: most innovative, most visually impressive kinda thing
18:49.28ckknightwe have 3 prizes.
18:49.59Kraftmanwhat are they? :)
18:50.01Tristanianwhat are they ?
18:50.19ckknightthey _might_ be blizzcon tickets
18:50.24hypetechblizzcon, blizzcon, and blizzcon
18:50.26hypetechsaw that coming
18:50.26Kraftmanaww
18:50.26hypetech:p
18:50.30Tristanianaye
18:50.42Kraftmanwhat about the eu people :'(
18:50.50hypetechlrn2airplane
18:51.05Tristanianpaying for the tickets ? :p
18:51.11hypetechhehe
18:51.19CrazyBenny_free vanity pet!
18:51.26Kraftman^^
18:51.49ckknightKraftman: if you can catch a plane
18:51.55hypetechI don't think curseforge has the ability to add pets to the game >_>
18:52.01ckknight...yet!
18:52.04hypetechhehe
18:54.18netcurseput 3 addons idea and see who can make the implementation the best in these 3 in a limited amount of time?
18:54.24netcurseas there is 3 tickets to win
18:54.25Repo10project-4871: 03Madrak * r46 Core.lua:
18:54.28RepoORLIC:  Maax Contribution - changed chat hook to work with 3.0
18:54.30hypetechminimum lines of code!
18:54.44Kraftmanmake it something that encourages good coding
18:54.48Kraftman:)
18:54.55Madrakwell, that wasn't the most beautiful commit I've ever seen, but it will have to do
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18:55.09durcynhmm
18:55.12durcynobfuscated lua contest
18:55.25ckknightlulz
18:55.30AckisWork@project project-4871
18:55.31RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-4871/. ORLIC. Game: WoW. Madrak (Manager/Author), max000000 (Author). Updated: 32 seconds ago
18:55.32Kraftman'how many of the new policy rules can you break in one addon' contest
18:55.37Odlaw?
18:55.41Fisker-ckknight any progress on  that download bug?
18:56.01ckknightFisker-: with PB4 and such?
18:56.03AckisWork@project orlic
18:56.05RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/orlic/. ORLIC. Game: WoW. Madrak (Manager/Author), max000000 (Author). Updated: 66 seconds ago
18:56.08AckisWorkMadrak: ^
18:56.09Fisker-yeah ckknight
18:56.15MadrakYeah :)
18:56.16Fisker-also genie refuses to install, not download
18:56.20durcyn"Best hidden rickroll easter egg" contest
18:56.28MadrakThats all it needed, just the one file
18:56.47AckisWorkMadrak: was just letting you know I changed the slug for it
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18:56.57nicoli_sfisker, that bug should be fixed now
18:57.09nicoli_snew curse.com code got pushed a little while ago that should fix the issue
18:57.10MadrakThe slug?
18:57.24AckisWorkproject-4871 -> orlic
18:57.29ckknightFisker-: fixed
18:57.36MadrakAhh, right
18:58.13Madrakyeah, shows on the web now too.  Sweet.  Thanks
18:58.28Fisker-http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/genie.aspx <-still bugged
18:59.14AckisWorkMadrak: after a period of time projects get moved to inactive (6 months I think?)
18:59.34nicoli_sworked fine here fisker
18:59.55nicoli_swere you having a problem with manual install?
19:00.27Tinyboomckknight: another pecker that's bugged.... "Mailbox Complete"
19:00.31Fisker-tried reinstalling
19:00.33MadrakYeah it was pretty ancient.  I don't even have WoW installed anymore, but a guild member finally read some notes I left behind and fixed it.  I added him as an author, but as a courtesy would SVN it for him this time
19:00.34Fisker-now it reports the right version
19:00.38Fisker-but still says "Install failed"
19:01.47nicoli_shmmm
19:01.52kadrahilimo
19:01.53kadrahilPEBKAF (problem exists between keyboard and Fisker-)
19:02.06kadrahilruns
19:02.42Fisker-a bowl of soup?
19:02.46Fisker-i don't believe you
19:02.46Shefki_kadrahil: Umm that doesn't make any sense...
19:02.52nicoli_shmm, pitbull 4 works now, but not genie'
19:02.58kadrahilShefki_: i agree :(
19:03.01Shefki_kadrahil: That would imply the problem is air or something like that.
19:03.06kadrahilShefki_: yeah, haha
19:03.13Fisker-naw
19:03.15Fisker-a bowl of soup
19:03.20kadrahilooh
19:03.38kadrahilwhen in doubt, blame the soup
19:03.50kadrahilit could be the swine flu too
19:04.30Shefki_PEBKACFISI
19:04.30Fisker-scratch that btw
19:04.33Fisker-looks like it installed
19:04.36Fisker-but it didn't
19:04.39Fisker-manual install works though
19:04.45Shefki_Probelm Exists Between Keyboard And Chair Fisker Is Sitting In
19:04.51kadrahilhmm
19:04.53nicoli_shmm, this must be a different bug then
19:05.06kadrahilPEBKADBF - problem exists between keyboard and chair behind Fisker-
19:05.12kadrahilerr
19:05.13kadrahildoor!
19:05.19kadrahilnot chair.
19:05.45nicoli_sfisker, the curse client dev is looking at the problem now
19:06.03Fisker-tell i'm said hello
19:06.19Fisker-+him
19:06.20nicoli_si will do no such thing
19:06.41AckisWorknicoli_s: tell him I say hi
19:06.53nicoli_si am not a say hi proxy
19:06.59kadrahillol
19:07.00nicoli_sall i will do is yell if applicable, no helloing
19:07.08AckisWorklol
19:07.12kadrahilso, yell hello then?
19:07.30nicoli_scan do
19:07.33durcynnicoli_s, please throw something sharp at ckknight
19:07.39kadrahil"THESE GUYS SAID FREAKING HELLO NOW GET BACK TO WORK"
19:07.41ckknightno!
19:07.43nicoli_scan't durcyn, there's a wall between us
19:07.47durcynmake a hole!
19:07.53nicoli_sim too puny
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19:08.21nicoli_sthough i guess we could both start scraping at the wall with a spoon on either side until eventually we can throw things back and forth
19:08.43kadrahiljust start tossing a tennis ball against it repeatedly for an hour or two
19:09.07kadrahilthat should drive him crazy enough
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19:09.29nicoli_syeah but that requires too much effort
19:09.38durcynthe idea is to waste the other guy's time, not your own
19:09.40nicoli_snow if you had asked me to do something like poison his food, that i could o
19:09.41kadrahilpotato canon?
19:09.46hypetechbuild a robot arm that does it for you
19:09.50kadrahilcannon*
19:09.51Brunershow many badgers do you get from one naxx 25?
19:09.56durcynzero badgers
19:09.58kadrahilbadgers huh
19:10.00hypetechI get a lot of badgers
19:10.08hypetechbadger badger badger badger
19:10.12kadrahilrofl
19:10.16nicoli_sMUSHROOM MUSHROOM
19:10.20hypetechsnake!
19:10.28kadrahilon a plane!
19:10.52hypetechhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMeLFEq58QU
19:11.10durcynanyway, it's what, 15?
19:11.26kadrahiloh my
19:11.40k1net1k_heres a question, i just added auctioneer from curse client, it says dependency disabled (Stubby)
19:11.44k1net1k_whats stubby ?
19:11.52steevask your mom
19:12.00k1net1k_tyvm for the comment
19:12.02durcynstubby is auctioneer's tooltip module iirc
19:12.09steevit is
19:12.20durcynand would his mom have known that
19:12.22durcyni think not.
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19:12.51k1net1k_is there a better alternative to auctioneer
19:13.02steevauctioneer... advanced!
19:13.37kadrahil:O
19:13.43steevk1net1k_: alternately, you can just download it from auctioneeraddon.com
19:13.55steevauctioneer is one of those addons you rarely need to update
19:14.14k1net1k_yeah i just installing it to populate my itemcache
19:14.21k1net1k_seeing as it got wiped again
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19:16.23NechcknStubby is the stub loader for Auctioneer, it's included in the upload at Curse and from the main site, that steev linked.
19:16.47Brunershaste: oGlow has failed on inspect again
19:17.56durcynk1net1k_: it's almost like patches reset client side caches
19:18.04Fisker-most melee hate haste
19:18.23steevtruth
19:18.24hypetechThe patch today did something to my graphics settings, but I don't know what
19:18.35hypetechJust the popup that said "Your graphics settings have changed"
19:18.38harlwhy can't i read the party chat in the default chat frame with my druid. i just relogged from my warlock and nothing else and it worked before
19:18.56steevharl: right click->settings->x party
19:19.01k1net1k_durcyn: yes they do, all my cache are at 1kb since installing patch
19:19.06harlno, that not it. steev.
19:19.10harl+'s
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19:19.30harlalready checked that and my chars all share the same settings anyway
19:19.35durcynk1net1k_: </sarcasm>
19:19.54k1net1k_grr
19:20.58kadrahilhttp://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/may/darkmatter.jpg
19:21.09kadrahilwant
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19:22.21Shefkihow's it feel to want?
19:22.38kadrahil:/
19:23.57durcynhope he doesn't drop that trash for us
19:24.36kadrahil13% crit on proc isn't that bad
19:26.10Brunershow do i force a checkout from master even if i have local changes?
19:26.16Brunersin git
19:27.18ShefkiBruners: You don't.
19:27.25ShefkiBruners: git stash save
19:27.30Shefkigit pull
19:27.32Shefkigit stash pop
19:28.18Repo10test-bravo: 03ckknight 07master * v0.6-2-g09d77cc TestBravo.lua: [+1 commit] Stuff
19:28.24nevcairielwhy not just git reset --hard? <.<
19:28.36nevcairielfresh copy from master =P
19:28.46Shefkinevcairiel: Based on his question I assume he wants to save is local changes.
19:29.10ShefkiAnd git reset --hard is just wrong.  I wish people would stop teaching people to use it.
19:29.20Shefkigit checkout file(s) is really the right method.
19:29.27harlsomething's blocking my party chat if it's longer than 1 character
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19:29.43nevcairielShefki: i can't git checkout the whole tree
19:29.45nevcairiel=P
19:29.54nevcairieli cba to do it for every file
19:29.55Shefkinevcairiel: I usually don't want to wipe the whole tree.
19:30.19ShefkiThis is the stuff that drives me nuts about git... Functionality is great.
19:30.22ShefkiUI design is trash.
19:30.52nevcairielit doesnt have ui
19:30.54nevcairielits a CLI app
19:31.22nevcairielthe gtk ui they supply doesnt even count as an UI :p
19:32.07hasteBruners: I still haven't been able to re-create it =/
19:32.31StanzillaTortoiseGit!
19:33.01harli don't get it
19:33.11harlhttp://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3170/wowscrnshot051909212843.jpg
19:34.50Brunershaste: i noticed i havent updated it in a while
19:35.07Fisker-do you talk to all the keepers before engaging yogg-saron?
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19:36.07rubikif you want their buffs that help you, yes
19:36.20Fisker-awright
19:36.33durcynjust do hard mode, Fisker-
19:36.50rubiktalking to all of them => normal/easy mode... not talking to some/any => hard(er) modes
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19:38.08Fisker-do you have to visit them each wipe? :3
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19:42.47kenlyric_http://www.visitorsite.net/season1cast-1.jpg
19:42.53kenlyric_oops
19:44.00durcynno, Fisker- , it's permanent
19:45.08ckknighthey all, we figured out what contests we're gonna do (a rough idea, at least). Code submission will be required for them.
19:45.23nevcairielagain for US only? :p
19:45.32nicoli_snooooo but i don't know how to do teh code!
19:46.04ckknightnevcairiel: we're not paying for your plane ticket. If you can get to California, you're free to enter.
19:46.32nevcairielin fact, you would be paying for the ticket
19:46.45ckknight?
19:46.55nevcairielexcept that i had to save like 2 month of points <.<
19:46.59ckknighthmm
19:47.43nevcairielnot like i have time for fun like that anyway
19:47.45nevcairiel:(
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19:47.54ckknightwell, we're gonna have 3 separate contests, you're free to enter em all if you want, but you can only win one, and you have to use the ticket for yourself
19:47.58ckknightcan't resell
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19:48.48hypetechtickets! get your tickets here!
19:49.34Brunersckknight: can you give it away then?
19:49.47ckknightyou have to use the ticket for yourself.
19:49.58ckknightor we'll give it to someone else
19:50.07ckknighti.e. don't be a douche
19:50.17hypetechlol
19:50.25ckknightyou could, say, buy your gf a ticket and use ours for yourself
19:50.41durcynwhat if i bought your girlfriend a ticket, ckknight
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19:50.49ckknightshe would be so happy.
19:51.28nicoli_sbuy mine a ticker
19:51.31nicoli_sticket*
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19:52.27ckknightalso, you have to be an existing addon author to enter
19:52.31Brunersbut can you join the competition, win and then say you dont want the ticket and you can give it someone else?
19:52.44ckknightBruners: yea, but you don't get to choose.
19:52.58nicoli_slol
19:53.09nicoli_sif you win and don't want it, you can gibe it to someone else, me
19:53.42AckisWorkckknight: hold a competition for the dumbest user so Fisker- can win something
19:53.45hypetechLimiting it to existing authors may counteract the desire for an innovative addon
19:53.58ckknightlulz
19:54.18ckknighthypetech: we're going to tell you what to code, it's not an ffa
19:54.24hypetechoh
19:54.26hypetechnvm then :p
19:54.38ckknightand multiple people can get it right
19:54.46ckknightin that case, we'll choose randomly from the winners
19:55.33hypetechb.net auth is up now btw
19:55.37hypetechfor anybody trying to get in
19:55.46nicoli_syay i can play sc2 again!
19:56.01hypetech>_>
19:56.02nicoli_s...in my wildest dreams!
19:56.04hypetechoh
19:56.05hypetech:(
19:56.58Repo10fswapper3: 03x87bliss * r25 locale/FS3LocruRU.lua: Updated ruRU Locale, (70.6%) Thanks Hemathio.
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19:57.58Repo10fswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.1.1.5 (+ruRU Locale) * r26 : Tagging as v3.1.1.5 (+ruRU Locale)
19:58.12Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1867 AckisRecipeList.lua: Remove 'sanity check'
19:59.26Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r852 Data (2 files in 1 directory): - Fixed ambush r10
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20:08.20waallendoes anyone else have bizarre text scaling in Bigwigs bars? Something that looks like this: http://pici.se/411148/?size=fullsize
20:09.26durcyni don't think he's resetting fontsize when the bars are recycled
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20:13.28Axodiousis the equip manager not working on certain characters for anyone else
20:13.29Axodious?
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20:14.50waallenI guess it doesn't bug anymore with the JC gem limit
20:15.43NivFreakI'm sticking with outfitter
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20:19.12waallendurcyn: is that a bad on my side or a small bug in the current revision?
20:19.31NechcknNivFreak  I had been all set to change, but, yeah... Outfitter is a bit more friendly.
20:20.09NivFreakto be fair, I haven't tried the blizz one since 3.1 PTR
20:20.18NivFreakbut it was not meeting my needs then
20:20.50Repo10rswapper3: 03x87bliss * r57 Locale/RS3LocruRU.lua: Updated ruRU Locale (87.0%) Thanks Hemathio.
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20:25.31Axodiousthere any equipment manager macro commands like talents?
20:26.14EthanCentauraihttp://www.wowwiki.com/Equipment_Manager
20:26.34Axodiousty EthanCentaurai
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20:28.15steevMasanobu Sato held onto his championship title (among other things) when he masturbated for 9 hours and 58 minutes at the 9th Annual Masturbate-A-Thon which I’m sure was an event filled with a lot of class acts.
20:28.54AckisWorkanyone here go to GAMA or last years WWI?
20:31.12durcynwaallen: the library needs some tweaking, it's not anything you're doing
20:31.48waallenalright
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20:40.26Repo10recountfailbot: 03Elsia * r16 Failbot_Mode.lua:
20:40.29Repo- Add localization tables for current Ulduar fails in LibFail-1.0.
20:41.07Axodious/equipset [spec:1] Restoration; [spec:2] Elemental /usetalents [spec:1] 2; [spec:2] 1
20:41.09Axodiouswin :D
20:41.19AckisWorkwtf?
20:49.59Stanzilla.
20:52.37hypetechset names are apparently case sensitive
20:52.39hypetechjust for the records
20:52.42hypetechrecord*
20:57.04kadrahilanyone remember that oooooold level 60 mage pvp video about the big purple robe?
20:57.52EthanCentauraikadrahil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqO7zEWu0W0 ?
20:58.09kadrahilEthanCentaurai: YES
20:58.11kadrahili love you
20:58.13kadrahil(nohomo)
20:58.15EthanCentaurai:D
20:59.29EthanCentauraiSo why I ask, it just doesn't make much sense, that a man of my stature should have to wear a dress? I mean what, may I inquire, were you thinking on that day when you conjured up for a man like me a robe that looks so gaaay?
21:00.03kadrahillol at the 1400 crits
21:03.32Fisker-it is over AckisWork
21:04.16durcynwhy do people suddenly think they have to delete old tags
21:06.03sylvanaarpakadin?
21:06.08sylvanaarpaladin?
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21:06.52kadrahilpakadin, new hero class
21:07.03kadrahilcarries bags of consumables for your raid
21:07.14sylvanaar"guardian of da porn"
21:07.18kadrahilo.O
21:08.22sylvanaardruid t8 having a built-in fail moon makes me sad
21:09.05AntiarcDid Blizzard change minimap blips with this patch again?
21:10.50haste:D ?
21:11.40hypetecho.0
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21:28.04sylvanaaris there an api we can use to get our base power - or just base mana
21:28.16sylvanaari know its the same for everyone
21:28.38vhaarrwhat was the syntax again for sting.format when you want to place the first argument to format as the second replace and the second argument as the first replace, for example?
21:28.47vhaarrwas something like $1
21:29.39durcynsylvanaar: you could probably calculate it per-class using known percent-of-base-mana spells
21:29.44durcyni know of no API though
21:30.11sylvanaar%1$s
21:30.48vhaarrah right
21:40.53Zeksiemmm. is there already a lib that'll maintain a pet->owner relationship table?
21:47.46NeoTronWTB Tank. Paladin or Druid PST. sigh
21:48.15Repo10libcandybar-3-0: 03Ammo * r22 bars.lua: add :SetTexture API
21:48.34Zyndromeslams his face so hard in the desk, the very fabrics of space tear apart
21:49.03Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r184 modules/Cooldowns.lua: fix selection of bartexture to work properly
21:51.35durcynNeoTron: huh what
21:55.36Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r185 / (2 files in 2 directories): localization shizznizzle
21:56.03Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5655 / (8 files in 3 directories):
21:56.06Repo:TargetMessage now works with lists of players as long as the list is created using :NewTargetList, and :TargetMessage now takes a tuple at the end that will also be passed to the format string.
21:56.11Repo10smooth-quest: 03Ammo * r75 SmoothQuest.lua: color rep quests correctly, thanks haste
21:57.44sylvanaari just caluclated it from my int
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21:57.57sylvanaarbut it would be good to know if the value is in the game somewhere
21:58.33sylvanaarUnitPower("player", 0) - select(3, UnitStat("player", 4)) * MANA_PER_INTELLECT
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21:59.02NeoTrondurcyn: we just lost our prot pally tank
21:59.02Shefkisylvanaar: That doesn't account for base mana.
21:59.16sylvanaarthat is what its trying to calc
21:59.17NeoTrondurcyn: who just finished his trial and, although not the brightest of stars, worked out fin
21:59.19sylvanaarbecause i dont know it
21:59.27Shefkisylvanaar: Oh.
21:59.29sylvanaar5391
21:59.29NeoTrondurcyn: it's because I just changed my tank offspec to dps frost offspec
21:59.34sylvanaaris what that returns
21:59.43sylvanaarat level 80
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22:01.55sylvanaar3496
22:01.59sylvanaaris the answer
22:05.04Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5656 Prototype.lua:
22:05.07RepoIgnore the class color option for now, I'll fix it tomorrow.
22:06.30Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r234 Buffs.lua: RaidBuffStatus:
22:06.32Repo- Made aura checking not completely broken - just a bit broken.
22:07.19Stanzillavhaarr: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=277626 ^^
22:08.12vhaarrStanzilla: ye I'll flip the switch on it tomorrow morning
22:08.23Stanzilla\o/
22:08.27nicoli_shey and fisker, if yer around we found the bug in genie, it's a problem on the authors end
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22:10.41Repo10tehtip: 03copystring * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Initial commit
22:10.57Pneumatus@describe tehtip
22:11.12nicoli_stehtip is the end of....
22:11.36PneumatusRepo :<
22:16.57hypetechAnybody know why my downloads are failing in Curse Client?
22:17.00hypetechis the server down?
22:18.26nicoli_shypetech which addons?
22:18.37hypetechOmniCC and Outfitter
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22:18.53NightHawkTheSaneI just updated a number of addons, including omnicc, with no issue
22:21.35nicoli_shypetech, file a ticket on curseforge
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22:26.11Venara|afk@describe tehtip
22:26.57Venara|afkmh, repo is denying me his services :<
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22:27.22Venara|afk@project big-wigs
22:27.40Venara|afkbad repo :p
22:28.04copystringsomething seems to be broken,  can't update any addons either
22:29.41Venara|afkckknight probably broke something :p *joking*
22:29.46Venara|afkdoesn't work for me either
22:30.12ckknightsweet zombie jesus
22:30.13Pneumatus@ping
22:31.37Venara|afkPneumatus: im afraid repo's still out of service. maybe he's sick :< *sends cookies to repo*
22:35.36ckknightgonna have to restart the server
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22:54.34Repo10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r36 / (5 files in 2 directories): Tweaked some default announces.
22:54.37RepoOnly a restricted set of spell failure reasons are announced.
22:54.41RepoSpell failure announces are throttled.
22:54.44RepoDeleting default announces is now persistant across sessions.
22:54.51rubikgoddamn all these earthquakes
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23:02.23Repo10ora3: 03a9012456 * r186 locales/zhTW.lua: zhTW update
23:03.17Antiarcvhaarr: ClosetGnome seems brokenish.
23:03.24AntiarcNo LDB icon, LDB reports it offline
23:03.47vhaarrAntiarc: ye if you're on US?
23:04.06AntiarcI am, yes
23:04.07vhaarrbah I'll flip the switch on it now
23:04.09durcyninterface options frame still renders, ldb display no
23:04.50vhaarrif GetEquipmentSetInfo then return end
23:04.58vhaarrperhaps that should be a pointer :P
23:05.35vhaarrAntiarc, durcyn: problem is once I flip this, it'll reset your sets again (since the new CG just uses the blizz eq set functions)
23:05.46rubikcan't get past authenticating screen
23:06.07durcynvhaarr: eh, doesn't bother me personally
23:06.13rubikwhy did blizz have to break ClosetGnome with their inferior equipment manager bullshit
23:07.36rubikCG breaks just from the new API stuff? even with the equipment manger not turned on from the interface menu?
23:07.38durcynblizzard didn't break anything, vharr chose to use equipment manager as the backend
23:07.58vhaarrI can chose not to though
23:08.21vhaarrif rubik can tell me what's wrong with blizzards stuff
23:08.25vhaarrI haven't tried it in 3.1.2
23:08.32Axodiousanyone make an addon yet to stick the equipment manager on minimap?
23:08.45vhaarrthat's basically what closetgnome does now Axodious
23:08.52vhaarr(once I commit)
23:08.53Axodiousk
23:09.03rubikoh, i don't know.. i just imagine it being half-assed crap
23:09.10vhaarrheh ye maybe
23:09.27rubikwith no in-combat queueing for example
23:09.38Axodiousmy dk tank says “tell him zeraxs loves him” directed towards you vhaarr
23:09.39Axodiouslol
23:09.41Repo10orlic: 03max000000 04r46 release * r47 : Tagging as r46 release
23:09.48rubikand i think you set hotkeys through just macros with slash commands.. which is dumb
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23:10.06vhaarrrubik: the cg keybindings will still be intact
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23:10.14vhaarror, you can assign keybindings to sets like always
23:10.43durcynthe only thing wrong with equip manager was the prismatic/jeweler's gems, afaik
23:10.47rubiki still can't log in so it'll be a while before i can test anything.. stuck at 'Authenticating' here in southern california
23:11.04Repo10closet-gnome: 03Rabbit * r603 / (2 files in 1 directory):
23:11.07RepoUse the equipment mananger as a backend for now, this will reset your sets again. Hopefully blizzards stuff doesn't suck.
23:11.07vhaarrAntiarc, durcyn: ^
23:11.09vhaarrcan you test please
23:11.13Stanzillacan't you import the cg sets to blizzthiny?
23:11.13vhaarrI can't until tomorrow
23:11.15Stanzilla*g
23:11.17vhaarrStanzilla: no
23:11.19vhaarrthat's impossible
23:11.20Stanzilla:(
23:11.30vhaarrwithout a manual equip all + save routine
23:11.44AntiarcThe Blizzard sets don't use savedvars?
23:11.49vhaarrso it could be automated if you have all your sets in your bags on login
23:12.06vhaarrAntiarc: not that I could find
23:12.09vhaarrbut that was in 3.1
23:12.47vhaarrI haven't looked at the code for 3.1.2 yet so maybe my 3.1 code won't work with it
23:12.52vhaarrthat's why I'm asking you to test it now
23:13.37durcynlooks fine so far, CG_SwapSpecs is broken since the callback no longer exists
23:13.46vhaarrI don't know that addon
23:13.48rubikdamnit
23:13.53vhaarrwhat callback?
23:13.54rubikAntiarc can fix it
23:13.58rubikit's his baby
23:14.08AdirelleI have something weird with AceDB-3.0 and defaults : http://paste.wowace.com/688/
23:14.09durcynshould just use blizzard events for that now anyway
23:14.17NeoTronI assume that the eq manager uses server side storage for the sets
23:14.22AntiarcUgh
23:14.35NeoTronand probably uses servrt-side mechanics to swap the sets (to handle gems and such)
23:14.49vhaarrNeoTron: actually that was implemented in addon code for 3.1
23:14.54vhaarrlike I said, I have no idea about 3.1.2
23:15.10vhaarrobviously they added *several* new convenience APIs for themselves to do it
23:15.18vhaarrlike GetItemGemXXX or whatever
23:16.09Adirellein earlier implementation fo 3.1, all the eq manager (including SV) was in framexml
23:16.16NeoTronah
23:16.19NeoTronsurprising
23:16.35NivFreakI hear login servers are down and WG is bugged? :)
23:16.53rubiklogin servers definitely down so don't know about WG cause i can't log in
23:17.00sylvanaarwho has played demigod?
23:17.08NivFreaksylvanaar: I've been just starting to play it
23:17.17AntiarcWG is apparently granting a loss every 1-5 minutes
23:17.23NivFreaksylvanaar: I only like the hunter-ish demigod so far ;)
23:17.23AntiarcWhich is 2k honor + mark
23:17.24rubikhaha
23:17.29NivFreakAntiarc: yea, that's what I heard
23:17.35rubikthat's awesome
23:17.40NivFreakthis happened before ;)
23:17.43Antiarcgg regression tests
23:17.45NivFreakalthough it ended with a server crash
23:17.57Antiarcvhaarr: Is there a way to provide a legacy set support?
23:18.08AntiarcSo I can equip my sets with the legacy support, then save them to Blizzard sets?
23:18.36vhaarrI didn't make one, no, but it's possible
23:18.45AntiarcI might need to see about that
23:18.47Lukianwhat happens when the WG timer runs out, or is it resetting to 30mins every loss? ^_^
23:18.49AntiarcLosing my sets would really blow
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23:19.14vhaarrAntiarc: feel free to add some temporary conversion code to ClosetGnome proper
23:19.22vhaarrI'm going to sleep, I'll deal with any shitstorms in the morning
23:19.23Antiarckk. Thanks.
23:20.35NeoTronoh did they patch today?
23:20.42rubikyeah
23:20.45NeoTronah I see
23:20.51NeoTronso now I can use 4xt8 and actually gain dps
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23:20.54NeoTron...
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23:23.52Lukianhaha <3 these bugs
23:24.10Gnarfozh8 bugs btw
23:24.42Gnarfozwasted two good yogg-saron tries today because he kept doing the "spawn a Constrictor Tentacle right on top of portals" thing
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23:25.04Gnarfozenter portal -> tentacle graps you even though you're through the portal -> back out *disconnect*
23:25.22Gnarfozlog back in -> outside, free to move and fight etc
23:25.33Gnarfozbut when the madness timer is up... you go insane
23:25.42Gnarfozeven though you're not in his mind :(
23:26.11Lukianouch
23:26.53NeoTronhotness
23:27.22Gnarfozalso nice, but beneficial: Stormcaller Brundir being stunned/interrupted while casting Overload
23:27.39Venarayeah
23:27.42Gnarfoz(which shouldn't be possible but apparently is if you cast a stun/whatever right before he starts casting)
23:27.42MegalonGnarfoz: had the same issue this week once
23:27.48Primerauth down?
23:27.57Megalonwith someone getting grabed the moment he entered the portal
23:28.04Gnarfozcasting animation stays at his old position, he moves because he's interrupted, nothing happens. ;D
23:28.04Venarathat constrictor thing today really sucked (gnarf an i are in the same guild)
23:28.10Venaraonly difference
23:28.15Venarai crit errored out of wow
23:28.21Venarahe just disconnected when it happened ^^
23:28.30Lukiankek
23:28.34Lukianyeah I get that sometimes too
23:28.55sylvanaarAntiarc how is WG generating losses
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23:29.41Gnarfozit's not costing you anything, sylvanaar, if that's what you understood ;)
23:29.46Primercrap, I think someone's filtering the port here at work
23:30.18Gnarfozserver thinks the battle for wintergrasp is over repeatedly, awarding them whatever they're supposed to be awarded if they lose :)
23:30.21Venarawell you do get less honor / sk shards per week now than before
23:30.31Gnarfozthat's not what this is about ;-)
23:30.31PrimerCan anyone verify that auth is up?
23:30.59Gnarfoz<+Antiarc> WG is apparently granting a loss every 1-5 minutes <+Antiarc> Which is 2k honor + mark
23:31.10rubikPrimer: it's not
23:31.17VenaraNeoTron: filed an MDKP ticket earlier today (30), would be nice if you could have a look at it
23:31.19rubiki've been trying to log in for 30 minutes with no luck
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23:31.37Primerrubik: ok, thanks
23:32.30NeoTronVenara: weird. ok
23:32.42NeoTronVenara: you can always try the Alt: <name> method :P
23:32.47NeoTronin the guild or officer notes
23:32.57NeoTronI honestyl never use the command line method these days
23:33.25Gnarfozour guild/officer notes are already taken, NeoTron ;<
23:33.33Venarayep ;>
23:33.43NeoTronI need a ui for it. just hasn't been high priority
23:33.45sylvanaarGnarfoz its not happening on my server
23:33.49NeoTronbut command line obviously should work
23:33.53Gnarfozsylvanaar: I'm not saying it is. :P
23:34.07Gnarfoz(ironically, for alts it's taken by their main's name, but just the name and no prefix)
23:34.14NeoTronis there a "unicode safe" %w in lua?
23:34.27NeoTronI tend to just use [^ ]+ type patterns
23:34.30Gnarfozbecause "Alt" doesn't mean anything on deDE realms other than "old" ;p
23:34.33VenaraNeoTron: the command line is fine, don't really need a UI, it just won't work if there's a special character on the first letter
23:34.42Repo10badboy_levels: 03funkydude * r25 / (2 files in 1 directory): -Another bugfix with wholib
23:34.45Repo-Another fix to remove old/printed whispers from memory
23:34.49Repo-Fix a potential loop if no player returns from who
23:34.52Repo-frFR update
23:35.06NeoTronGnarfoz: well.. prefix could be changed to be configurable but that doesn't change the problem if you se notes for other stuff
23:35.28Repo10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar * r141 / (6 files in 3 directories): FBagOfHolding:
23:35.30Gnarfozyeah, well
23:35.32Repo- Modified code so unit tests would only load if WoWUnit was present. Changed interface of SearchCollector to require all item properties to be set before the call to CheckItem rather than letting CheckItem set the final item detail properties to generalize the class so it can be used for searching for other things (like empty bag slots).
23:35.41Gnarfozfor mains it's taken by their professions
23:35.57Gnarfozmanually filling the list is ok I guess =]
23:36.07NeoTrondoes alts have a note who the main is then?
23:36.13Venarayes
23:36.18NeoTronthen that's a fix too
23:36.27NeoTronI'll make the pattern used to scan guild notes configurable
23:36.39Repo10badboy_levels: 03funkydude 04v1.5.0 * r26 : Tagging as v1.5.0
23:36.45NeoTronmaybe just a lua pattern
23:36.50Gnarfozand they're on their own rank, too
23:36.57Gnarfozforgot to tell that :)
23:37.12Venarawould be nice if you wouldn't need a prefix in the notes too
23:37.25NeoTroncustom pattern => wahtever you want :P
23:37.29Venara;p
23:37.30Gnarfozso rank check + configurable pattern = win
23:37.34NeoTronlike %[^ ]
23:37.36Venara+
23:37.43NeoTronbut then I agree "alt note scannign" should have its own set of ranks
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23:38.05NeoTronanyhow I'll figure it out. what bothers me a bit more is the issue with patterns on the DE client
23:38.15Venarahow so?
23:38.19NeoTronI'd like to see the formats for the various things I use in Magic DKP Client
23:38.50NeoTronhttp://www.wowace.com/projects/magic-dkp_client/tickets/2-error-when-you-have-activated-dont-show-unuseble-items/
23:39.18NeoTronI try to reverse engineer the patterns and obviously something is failing with the DE pattern
23:39.33Venaranever encountered that one before. but then again, i'm using enGB
23:39.37Repo10ora3: 03StingerSoft * r187 locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update
23:39.42Gnarfozright, one of our shaman recently complained that the auto-pass is still not working
23:39.45Gnarfoz(on deDE)
23:39.46NeoTronyeah it works fine in enUS and enGB
23:40.03GnarfozNeoTron: what patterns do you need?
23:40.06NeoTronit's hard to fix if I don't know what the source pattern is
23:40.12NeoTroncheck in the source code, around the line of that error
23:40.27Venarabtw
23:40.33Venarai wanted to ask this before
23:40.38NeoTronbasically the patterns to check for the stats on the item
23:41.04Gnarfozare they globalstrings in the deDE client?
23:41.18NeoTronyep
23:41.19Venaraany chance that you'll change the texts when someone whispers a dkp request? currently it returns something like "<d> DKP name xxx"
23:41.20Gnarfozor can you rip them from WoWEquip? :p
23:41.37NeoTronVenara: the response text?
23:41.41GnarfozNeoTron: if they're in there I can give 'em to you, I'll just switch my client to deDE
23:41.41Venarayes
23:41.53NeoTronMagicDKP Client uses the global strings
23:42.00NeoTronYOU_KNOW_BLIZZARD_LOCALIZATION
23:42.02Gnarfozbtw, said Shaman claimed it errored silently
23:42.07NeoTronit fails during load
23:42.11NeoTronit's not silent :P
23:42.13NeoTronwell
23:42.14NeoTronor not
23:42.14Gnarfozhm?
23:42.19NeoTronnm
23:42.21Gnarfozno he said no errors, but it autopasses on shit he can use
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23:42.49NeoTronVenara: that shit is pretty hard coded. Should add a dkp browser addon instead (maybe to the client, maybe standalone part of the client)
23:42.59NeoTronah
23:43.06Venarawell
23:43.11Venarai just checked my log
23:43.13Venara"4/20 01:53:11.846 Venara whispers: <D> Current DKP for Venara: Ulduar 210"
23:43.16NeoTronGnarfoz: that's likely due to an old client
23:43.27Venarathat <D> thing kinda bugs me. what does it mean?
23:43.30GnarfozNeoTron: he had r58, I think
23:43.40NeoTronVenara: a prefix I use for filtering it so you don't see it
23:43.43Venarayep, was r58 for that shaman
23:43.59Stanzilla~wowalert
23:44.00purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
23:44.08NeoTronthe only case of it skipping shit it shouldn't was when the client hadn't seen the item being bid on ebfore
23:44.14NeoTronthat I know of
23:44.33NeoTronso if that wasn't it, it's something new
23:44.54NeoTronVenara: I'll see if I can figure out a way to skip using the <D> without being too ugly
23:45.03NeoTronlike caching the last X sent responses
23:45.04GnarfozNeoTron: but you fixed that, right?
23:45.06Venarathat would be nice, thank you :>
23:45.11NeoTronGnarfoz: that issue should be fixed yes
23:45.35NeoTronVenara: it's me being lazy
23:45.38Gnarfozwell, he tends to be magnetic for addon errors, so I'm not sure :D
23:45.43Venarai guess our shaman friend is having a Layer-8 issue more than the client not working
23:45.54Venaramy husband's using r58 too with that setting turned on
23:45.54NeoTronI haven't worked much on addons recently - took a bit of a break since I was burning out (on raiding and wow in general - just needed a week or two off)
23:45.58Venaraand he never had a problem
23:45.58PrimerVenara: that's the PEBKAC layer?
23:46.06VenaraPrimer: yes
23:46.08Gnarfozthe same ^^
23:46.17Maelos`Layer8 is usually political.
23:46.20Maelos`At least here it is.
23:46.21GnarfozVenara: he's on enGB, though?
23:46.23NeoTronright now the thing people see is the dialog shows up and then gets hidden
23:46.41VenaraGnarfoz: depends, sometimes he's using deDE, don't ask me why
23:46.44NeoTronthat's the "caching in process" sympton. going to make it not show it unless it is a valid item for the user instead
23:47.34NeoTronI doubt the locale issue could cause auto-pass.
23:47.45NeoTronalthough I suppose it's quite possible it wouldn't open the dialog
23:47.52Venarapeople should just stop using deDE like i did. enXX is the future :p
23:47.52NeoTronsince it's an actual code error
23:48.36AntiarcThis is hilarious
23:48.43AntiarcI've gotten 6 WG marks during lunch
23:48.49Venaragrats
23:49.09NeoTronAntiarc: idling in wg?
23:49.14Antiarcyes
23:49.36sylvanaari get nada
23:49.39Venarait's still awarding losses every now and then?
23:49.48NeoTronVenara: although I'd agree (I never would use an svSE if it was available) I still don't want to bug like that :P
23:49.57AntiarcYes
23:50.06AntiarcExcept now it's wins
23:50.20AntiarcWe blitzed and took the fortress in 3 minutes
23:50.20VenaraNeoTron: hehe :p
23:50.34Venarathat is indeed hilarious ^^
23:50.58NeoTronI hate doing UI work.. which is why magicdkp bidder is like my biggest ui app ever :P
23:51.07PrimerAntiarc: there was a bug after a patch that was causing the realm to restart after every WG victory...I think I got 30 marks in about 3 hours that day
23:51.18Primerpretty sure all realms saw this
23:51.29NeoTronWolfram|Alpha search engine will always bring my mind back to Wolfram & Hart...
23:51.37NeoTronit's evil I tell you. Evil!
23:52.04VenaraNeoTron: one more thing (i should probably start filing more tickets :P)
23:52.08Venaraehm
23:52.21rubikwtf is going on? i try to log on to any of my characters and it just sits there at full bar on the loading screen and never logs on.. never seen this before
23:52.40rubiksome major lag or something
23:52.47Axodiouslet it sit there for ~2-3 minutes
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23:52.53Venarawould it be possible to add Brundir, Molgeim and Steelbreaker / Kologarn + Left arm and right arm as one Encounter to MDKP? You already did this with Yoggi and other bosses
23:52.53Axodiousit’s recaching everything on the spot ~_~
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23:53.36rubikahh.. works after 3 minutes.. apparently Northrend is down on our server according to trade chat
23:53.41ckknightwoo
23:53.43Venaracurrently they're all listed as seperate bosses and accounted for like thatt
23:53.44ckknightwowace can now host contests
23:53.46ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/contests/
23:53.48ckknightooh yea, baby
23:54.03ckknightlemme do a test contest
23:54.21Venarawinner should get a dinner with you ckk
23:54.23Venara:P
23:54.45Venaraor a pony, GC never handed those out
23:54.45Funkeh`copystring, ping
23:54.48copystringpong
23:54.56Funkeh`I just saw your ticket
23:54.58Funkeh`for BM
23:55.03Funkeh`1.51 should have fixed it?
23:55.09copystringoh, yes that fixed it
23:55.15Funkeh`alright, Ill close it
23:55.36Stanzillakisses Funkeh`
23:55.43Axodiousaww, 404 on beta contests
23:55.43Axodious:P
23:55.50NeoTronVenara: tickets r good - or I'll forget it
23:55.58Venarak, i'll do that
23:56.00Funkeh`Stanzilla, I'm adding your checkbox in bm in 1.6 even though you don't use it
23:56.03ckknightVenara: spoke with the gf, says I'm not allowed to give myself out as a prize.
23:56.09NeoTronVenara: I should already have that
23:56.10Funkeh`just waiting for an ace3 update
23:56.15StanzillaFunkeh`: awesome :D
23:56.17NeoTronVenara: i.e all of uldua should be correct
23:56.32NeoTronbut
23:56.51VenaraNeoTron: maybe you didn't release it yet? :p
23:56.52NeoTronif you had already seen that stuff before I added it, it's likely not correct
23:56.58Venaraah
23:57.03NeoTronI don't do a full overwrite
23:57.28NeoTronbut for example if you look at Left Arm there might be a button to "Reset event name" or similar
23:57.38Venarais there a way to safely delete them without breaking other stuff?
23:57.43Venaraah, k, i'll have a look
23:57.54BWMerlinwhat is the current toc version?
23:57.59Venarackknight: that's too bad. i'll take the pony then
23:58.18NeoTronthat will reset the "Grouping"
23:59.04Venarai'll test that
23:59.04NeoTronI should add a setting to "load default" data for it
23:59.27Venarahehe. i'll file a ticket if it won't work :p

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