IRC log for #wowace on 20090512

00:00.09Archarodim25 I think
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00:07.08Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r767 / (11 files in 1 directory): --Add memory logging
00:08.50Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r768 AutoBar.toc: --memory logging
00:10.33Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.08.20 beta * r769 : Tagging as v3.00.08.20 beta
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00:17.07Repo10repgain2: 03texke * r2 / (6 files in 2 directories): First prototype release.
00:20.48Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r770 .pkgmeta: --gah
00:21.13Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r771 AutoBar.toc: --fix package
00:22.10Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.08.21 beta * r772 : Tagging as v3.00.08.21 beta
00:22.30ToadkillerOh man that was some incompetent set of changes.
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00:26.38NeoTron--gah!
00:26.52NeoTron++aah!
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00:27.19NeoTronNoticed AutoBar explode to rather impressive memory use (which goes away with a forced gc() call)
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00:34.24Archarodimhmm I just noticed something strange in the GUID of players during Yogg Saron fight ex:  0x020000000166963F
00:34.51Archarodimwhat does this 0x02 means??
00:37.59Repo10repgain2: 03texke * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update in .toc to comply with wowace no-lib tags.
00:38.45draculamind controlled flag?
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00:40.27ckknightNeoTron: yea, I've noticed that, too
00:43.46Archarodimdracula: no I don't think so...
00:44.05Archarodimif a player GUID could change like that it would be useless
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00:45.34draculahttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitGUID
00:49.21Archarodimdo you see something there about 0x02?
00:49.32Repo10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r5558 / (2 files in 2 directories): BigWigs:
00:49.34Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
00:51.12Archarodimat least there is this: "The top three digits are reserved"
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01:29.06kadrahilso council hardmode
01:29.11kadrahilafk
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01:38.35Antiarchahahahahahahahah
01:38.37Antiarchttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16904267249&sid=1 is epic
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01:38.44AntiarcThis guy is going to start hosting a central repo of addons
01:38.47AntiarcOn his home network?
01:39.27Nechckn_AFKSweet
01:39.32AntiarcI guess it looks like he just wants to host the mappings, but still, heh.
01:41.22AntiarcHe's missing several major pieces
01:41.41AntiarcLike, for example, github doesn't provide automatic packaging, so unless you're using a client, no easy access to mods :/
01:41.48AntiarcIssues with dependencies and libraries
01:41.56AntiarcNo issue tracking in many cases
01:42.16Arrowmastergithub does provide zips somehow though
01:42.25AntiarcIt provides gems, I didn't know it did zips
01:42.47Arrowmasterwowmatrix tried to get tekkubs mods directly from github zips until tekkub created fake tags to confuse their client
01:43.06tekkub^^
01:43.25Nechckn_AFKWell, it's not a horrible idea- but it leaves open the possibility of "baddons" making their way in.  Who is going to decide which ones are good/bad?
01:43.48AntiarcIt's an interesting idea if it were scaled back to only a distribution proxy
01:44.04Antiarcaddon usage is more than simply downloading a file, in many cases
01:44.16AntiarcComments, download counts, issue tracking, etc are all important
01:44.35Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r5559 Plugins (2 files in 1 directory): Plugins: Bars/Messages: default anchoring fixes.
01:44.45AntiarcI don't think it's a bad idea, just...a couple years late
01:44.52Arrowmasterand the guy seems to miss one of the major reasons authors dont like wowmatrix
01:44.54Arrowmasterlack of control
01:44.58Antiarcyeah
01:45.01Funkeh`I fucking hate frame placement fiddling
01:45.33airtonixand frame placement fiddling hates you
01:45.54Repo10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07StatLogic * 6efccfd / (16 files in 2 directories): [+55 commits] (51 truncated)
01:45.57Repo6efccfd: Fix bonus summary not taking into account the class for calculating rating bonuses. Remove the comparison function for debugging, and just comment out code differences in the actual function.
01:46.00Repo0ff1812: Fix debug errors resulting from code merge. Changed some strings.
01:46.03Repo6e5b175: Merge branch 'master' into StatLogic
01:46.06Repof091f37: Add more bonus translations. Make some of the % bonuses use integers instead of to 2 decimal places.
01:46.44Xinhuano_O
01:46.55Xinhuantechnically, its just 3 commits
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01:47.36Xinhuani merely merged 52 commits from master into the branch, some of which came from another branch!
01:54.51Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r5560 Extras/Proximity.lua: Extras/Proximity: Clamp to screen
01:56.41Funkeh`wow
01:56.46Funkeh`1 ticket left for bigwigs
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01:58.29Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r5561-release * r5561 : Tagging as r5561-release
02:00.57Repo10project-14048: 03TimothyLuke * r123 libs/Babble-Class-2.2/Babble-Class-2.2.lua: Fix Translation error in Babble-Class-2.2.lua
02:03.42kadrahilanyone here take a 2h frost dps DK to raids to buff melee?
02:03.48TorhalAntiarc: That link gives me the WoW/WoTLK header, then "Server Error"
02:03.59AntiarcTorhal: Yeah, servers are blowing up
02:04.07TorhalKer-PLOW!
02:04.24Funkeh`netcurse, is it "today" yet
02:04.32kadrahilNeoTron: ping
02:04.34GnarfozFunkeh`: you did set the clamp insets to 0 on the proximity window, hopefully? :)
02:04.47Funkeh`what?
02:04.57Antiarchttp://pastie.org/475173 - there, mirrored
02:04.59TorhalNo shit. It's 10pm EST, means its 7pm in California.
02:05.10GnarfozFunkeh`: the minimum distance to the screen edge
02:05.13TorhalAntiarc: Thankye.
02:05.16Xinhuanclamptoscreen has clamp insets to control how far in/out clamping works into a frame
02:05.24Funkeh`Gnarfoz, the defaults are 0
02:05.35Xinhuantime to sleep
02:05.45Gnarfozthen there's a global 1px border on the screen edge itself
02:06.00Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5562 / (2 files in 2 directories): koKR Update
02:06.08Gnarfozbecause there's tons of addons that use clamptoscreen whose frames you can't move all the way to the edge :\
02:06.19Funkeh`it moves to the edge
02:06.23Funkeh`I tested it
02:06.24Funkeh`it works fine
02:06.54Gnarfozon another note... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w2pBJSgcGg&feature=related the picture is creepy ;D
02:08.06Gnarfoz!api SendChatMessage
02:08.07lua_botDocumentation for 'SendChatMessage' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendChatMessage
02:10.21Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06newsecurity * r136 SKG_UtilityFunctions.lua: SKG :
02:10.24Repo- fix for no security info found
02:10.44Repo10misspelled: 03nrpieper * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory):
02:10.47RepoSaved user dictionary fixes, and new code to start tracking the cursor position.
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02:29.36Stanzillalicks Funkeh`
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02:37.12Kaaosa-Anyone able to help me figure out why this DogTag sequence isn't working as it should? http://www.pastey.net/114058
02:37.18Kaaosa-It's in my Target frame
02:40.53Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5563 Plugins/Bars2.lua: koKR Update
02:44.11Kaaosa-:'[
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02:58.41kadrahilNeoTron: http://i41.tinypic.com/30tks4j.jpg
02:58.49kadrahilNeoTron: that's my frost 2h dps
02:58.53kadrahilNeoTron: from council
02:59.01ShefkiKaaosa-: I don't think DogTags has named arguments.
03:00.01Kaaosa-Well I should probably provide some more diagnostic info
03:00.01ShefkiKaaosa-: So it should just be: Class("player")
03:00.20Kaaosa-Well, Class(unit="player") by itself displays properly
03:00.25Repo10basic-minimap: 03funkydude * r69 BasicMinimap.toc: repack locale
03:00.27ShefkiYeah just noticed that.
03:00.31Kaaosa-It's when I add any of the HasAura arguments that it breaks
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03:08.55ShefkiKaaosa-: http://www.pastey.net/114060-1w0k
03:09.04ShefkiKaaosa-: You need to [] around tags even if an if statement.
03:09.14Kaaosa-Ah
03:09.15Kaaosa-Thanks
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03:15.15PrimerSpeaking of DPS, what's considered the best raiding spec for a lock now?
03:17.08Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r1799 RecipeDB (2 files in 1 directory): added missing jewelcrafting trainer data, Ticket 546
03:17.11Repoadded missing tailoring trainer data, Tickets 542,547
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03:28.20zxwAny way to find the threat of a mob noone is targetting? Think I read about something to do with raid marks.
03:30.46Shefkizxw: Not that I'm aware of.
03:31.26Repo10broker_exit: 03Jabouty 041.0.0-release * r5 : Tagging as 1.0.0-release
03:45.24Torhal@describe broker_exit
03:45.25RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker_exit/. Broker_Exit. I found the lack of an LDB logout / reload / forced-exit button to be a royal pain after playing with Broker abit and replacing all my FuBar addons with LDB compliant ones. Thus Broker_Exit was coded....
03:45.48TorhalBeen using FireExit for over half a year.
03:45.53TorhalSomeone needs to l2search
03:45.54Torhal:D
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03:50.28iodoushelp?
03:53.40iodousany one here?
03:54.12Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r1800 RecipeDB (2 files in 1 directory): added missing engineering trainer data, Ticket 538
03:54.15Repoadded missing blacksmithing trainer data, Tickets 539,549
03:54.20Nechckn_AFKXinhuan - or anyone else who may know - iodous is having some issue the GatherMate not showing the arrow to point to the nearest node.
03:56.59iodousis it even an arrow/
03:57.00iodous?
03:57.02Torhaliodous: Do you have Routes?
03:57.27TorhalGatherMate just places nodes. Routes tells you where to go using those nodes.
03:57.46iodousor is it like a bunch of ores that give you a direction to go in
03:58.01iodousand there is an ornge line showing where you ran from
03:58.08TorhalWhenever you mine an ore node, GatherMate places that node in a database.
03:58.20TorhalRoutes pops up an arrow and says "Next node, this way"
03:58.33TorhalYou ened both.
03:58.37Torhals/ened/need/
03:59.32iodouswait so
03:59.40iodousi need to get another add on
04:00.09TorhalActually, two: TomTom for the arrow.
04:00.49TorhalGatherMate places the nodes. Routes creates the shortest route between them, and plugs into TomTom to create an arrow that points to the next node.
04:00.59iodousok
04:01.22Nechckn_AFKI knew someone would know what to do!  =)  ty, sir.
04:01.30Torhal:D
04:02.11iodousaaawww its got the cartografer arrow lol
04:03.21Arrowmasterso glad i have my speakers muted right now
04:03.31TorhalArrowmaster: Heh
04:04.34iodousearlyer there was a chinees guy talking out of my speakers
04:04.43iodousand i dident have any programs running
04:05.23iodousit was like my speakers where picking up a chinees radio signal
04:06.14TorhalI've had truckers come through on occasion with their CB radios.
04:06.32iodousyeah i was freaked out
04:07.36Nechckn_AFKIs it like "Red Dawn"... maybe the Chinese and Cubans are invading via Mexico!
04:07.56iodouslol
04:07.59iodousok so
04:08.26iodousi have tom tom routes gatherer, and gathermate all on here
04:08.52iodousand it still looks like i just have gatherer on here
04:09.16TorhalWhy do you have GatherMate _and_ Gatherer?
04:09.31hastethe more the merrier?
04:09.33Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r409 modules/TargetCast.lua:
04:09.36Repo- made sure that the target cast bar properly calls up to its super when targets are changed. this makes sure that the internal "i has a target" variable is updated and the alpha settings are then respected as they should be ("ooc and target" takes precedence over "ooc and not full")
04:09.45Torhalhaste: That's only for alcoholic beverages and porn.
04:10.19hasteor is it?
04:10.25iodousi have no arrow or route
04:10.34Torhaliodous: Type /routes
04:11.03TorhalYou have to set up a route. Then optimize it, then set up a keybind to start/stop it.
04:11.33Arrowmasterdont do a foreground optimization if its a large zone
04:12.15TorhalIndeed. Icecrown, for one, will lock WoW for long periods and may even disconnect you.
04:12.38iodouswhy cant this shit just work
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04:19.02TorhalBWAH
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04:29.08iodoushey
04:29.23iodousi got routes working but nor tomtom
04:31.11Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r190 / (3 files in 2 directories):
04:31.14Repo[*]Bidder: Show player's current DKP when available (from MagicDKP Database).
04:31.16Repo[*]Bidder: Allow anyone to start a bid and not just the loot master/raid leader.
04:33.49Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r191 / (3 files in 2 directories):
04:33.51Repo[*]Core: Removed Mimiron death message (not needed) and updated localization.
04:36.54iodousroutes does not calculate the fastest route
04:37.26iodousit just conects the dots
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04:38.55NeoTronit calculates the shortest route give you can fly
04:39.03NeoTronwhich also means the fastest route to hit all points
04:39.16NeoTronsounds to me you didn't optimize it
04:43.32Torhaliodous: You have to optimize the route.
04:43.40TorhalOr else it simply 'connects the dots'
04:44.06TorhalIt doesn't make assumptions about what you want, which is why everything is manual.
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04:46.56iodousok so
04:47.20iodoushow do i start optimizeing
04:47.26Repo10yssdrop: 03yssaril 07master * c821945 / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] initial commit
04:48.56Repo10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring 040.6RC1 * r202 : Tagging as 0.6RC1
04:49.11Nechckn_AFKNow that I know... when you open the Routes configuration, there is a button you can click to optimize the route
04:50.39Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r192 / (2 files in 1 directory):
04:50.42Repo[*]Core: Possibly fixed issue when handing a previously unseen item.
04:50.45Repo[*]Core: Don't try to register loot received if not the loot master.
04:51.22Repo10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r30 Modules/LootMenu/LootMenu.lua:
04:51.25Repo[*]LootMenu: Don't register looted items with MagicDKP or announce it when not in a group.
04:54.48Repo10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r58 MagicDKP_Client.lua:
04:54.51Repo[*]Fixed issue where filter unusable setting wouldn't stick.
04:56.57Repo10yssdrop: 03yssaril 07master * 5891016 YssDrop.toc: [+1 commit] toc fix
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05:06.27Repo10yssdrop: 03yssaril 07master * bbcfddc YssDrop.toc: [+1 commit] more toc fixes
05:06.33Repo10yssdrop: 03yssaril 04v1.0 * 771fbe4 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0
05:06.57Arrowmasteryou need to optimize it
05:08.17Arrowmasteronce optimized there should be no crossed lines in a single route
05:08.25Arrowmasteri think theres a tab dedicated to optimizing routes
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05:19.47Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic 041.5.8 * r410 :  (Message trimmed by 3 lines)
05:19.50RepoTagging as 1.5.8. Changes since last release:
05:19.53Repo- fixed alpha on the target cast bar when "ooc and not full" transparency is set to 0 and "ooc and target" is non-zero
05:19.56Repo- made tooltips on the custom bar/counter/cooldown bar more helpful
05:19.59Repobug http://www.wowace.com/projects/ice-hud/tickets/20-alt-tabbing-to-windows-mode-breaks-bars-in-osx/ - re-converted ArcHUD textures to blp using a tool that produces more reliable results
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05:34.43MaelosIs there any way I can split up a single BT4 bar into multiple sections and move them around independantly?
05:35.02NightHawkTheSanemake multiple smaller bars
05:35.13MaelosThat's what I've done but I'm out of bars to get the look I want
05:35.27NightHawkTheSane*shrug* not much you can do then
05:35.32MaelosI want to use fewer bars so shape shifting functions work right
05:35.53MaelosAre there other mods are more flexible with individual bars?
05:36.06NightHawkTheSane"more flexible"?
05:36.16NightHawkTheSanemacaroon, maybe, depending on what you mean
05:36.18MaelosAllow splitting a single bar into multiple, movable segments
05:36.34Maelosi.e. 4 buttons at one location, another 4 at another
05:36.53NightHawkTheSaneactually, every bar mod DOES support that. it's called multiple bars.
05:38.18MaelosDid you miss what I said earlier about why that's not sufficient?
05:38.31NightHawkTheSaneexcept what you're asking for is -exactly- that
05:39.17NightHawkTheSanethe way -every- action bar mod creates "multiple smaller independent segments" is to create multiple action bars.
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05:40.12Maelosis there any way to get more than 10 bars then?
05:40.43NightHawkTheSanenot in dominos or bt4, that i'm aware, you may try macaroon, but i'm not sure. i've never used it
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06:48.08Repo10talented: 03jerry * r565 learn.lua:
06:48.11RepoFix LearnTalent() to check the right talentGroup for unspent points.
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07:04.17orionshockanyone know how to turn off mouse keys in KDE?
07:09.27Torhalorionshock: You mean mouse movement with keypad?
07:09.39orionshockya
07:10.07TorhalSystem Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Mouse Navigation
07:10.26TorhalI take it you got an FPS increase with KDE?
07:12.21durcynspeaking of kde, where the hell is the setting for that annoying-as-piss alt-drag nonsense
07:12.48TorhalAlt-drag?
07:13.13durcynalt-click turns windows translucent and moves them by default on gentoo, or i did something terribly wrong
07:14.56orionshockdurcyn: it's a window setting
07:15.26Torhalorionshock: Are you getting better FPS with KDE?
07:15.49orionshockTorhal: a bit, also doing the  processorAffinityMask = 15 helps too :)
07:16.23TorhalSo you have a quad core?
07:16.56orionshockeh, no, your right, i changed it to 3 today, and that did help :)
07:17.04Torhal:D
07:17.46orionshockatm im working on making an ldb validator tool..
07:17.59orionshockand that is moving slowly...
07:20.59Wobinvalidator?
07:21.01TorhalGood luck with that
07:21.09Wobin"This Module is LDB Approved!"
07:21.17TorhalWobin: There are too many fucktards who can't tell the difference between label and text
07:21.20orionshockvalidation tool..
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07:21.39Elkanothere is no label :P
07:21.45TorhalLike there are too many fucktards who still write HTML like they're in 1992 and barely read the spec
07:21.50Wobinhehe will we have LDB 1.0 compliant signed modules? =)
07:21.51orionshockWobin & Torhal or what either mean or how they should be used.
07:22.02orionshockproblem with ldb is that there are too many opinions
07:22.17durcynorionshock: oh, god, finally
07:22.19TorhalElkano: In Tekkub's spec, there is. :P
07:22.34orionshockdurcyn: ?
07:22.34Elkanowho cares about tekkub? ;)
07:22.39Torhalorionshock: Elkano wrote LDB, so ask him what to do. Heh.
07:22.58durcynorionshock: i've been hunting for that stupid setting for a month
07:23.41orionshockTorhal: there is logic and reason and if that doesn't work, then i'll ask :)  now as part of that reasoning i'll prolly ask
07:25.14Elkanoin theory, LDB can be compared to XML; xml only tells that there are tags but not which ones
07:26.02orionshockwell it's that problem that's starting to irritate me :)
07:26.49Elkanowell, you're not the only one ^^
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07:28.47Elkanomany people seem to see both, LDB and the spec to be used as one although in fact it are two things, the main problems are with the spec itself though and lots of people interpreting it their own way hopeng it will still run fine with the other's view
07:29.40TorhalElkano: And it isn't helping that everyone's looking to Tekkub and he's basically saying "I don't give a fuck, do what you want!"
07:30.04orionshockElkano: that's why im doing this, im taking tek's advice and doing what the fuck i want :)
07:31.25Elkanoanyone of you familiar with CORBA?
07:31.43TorhalElkano: Interesting bit. If I embed a texture using escape sequences and format its width to tooltip:GetWidth(), it doesn't match. If I do tooltip:GetWidth() + (26 * tooltip:GetNumColumns()) - it is approximately right.
07:31.46TorhalNot I.
07:32.25TorhalIncidentally, I got 26 from (2 * TOOLTIP_PADDING) + COL_MARGIN_H
07:33.08TorhalI'm not seeing why I'd need to do that, though, as tooltip:GetWidth() should BE that number.
07:34.06Grumthe width of the frame is not always the same as the 'width' of the visible textures
07:34.35TorhalThat's just hateful.
07:34.36Grumnearly add blizzard frames have textures which are severely overlapping the frame
07:34.37Torhal:D
07:34.45Grum*all
07:34.51Grum*but* it makes sense
07:35.01Grumbecause of the need for 'softshadows' around the frames
07:35.09Grumyou have to have textures bigger than the frames
07:35.32Grumand with frames around ~340 width you end up having 256x256 + 128x256 textures covering them
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07:37.13ElkanoTorhal, maybe because of the backdrop
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07:55.31Zhinjiofucking cable modem
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08:23.47RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/yssdrop/. YssDrop. yssaril (Manager/Author). Approved by Ammo.
08:23.56RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/spamagemeters/. SpamageMeters. Wrug (Manager/Author), Cybey (Author). Approved by Ammo.
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08:36.04orionshockis Adirelle|work around?
08:36.29Adirelle|workyep
08:36.54orionshockok, got a working draft of that validation tool, works ingame atleast :)
08:37.05orionshockdo u think i should throw it up as a project?
08:38.16Adirelle|workdunno
08:38.34Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r232 / (2 files in 1 directory): fixes for ldb feed. lable ~= label
08:38.42Adirelle|workthough it won't be of any use if you don't publish it ^^
08:38.51Adirelle|workdoes it work as a standalone or a library ?
08:39.16orionshockAdirelle|work: no libs but LDB
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08:39.44orionshocktho, no gui, im rather bad at gui frames
08:40.10orionshocki could make an acegui system work...
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08:43.49Adirelle|workwhat does it do AT M? spit out error on every DO ?
08:43.55RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/parry-me-not/. Parry Me Not. vincentnl (Manager/Author). Approved by Ammo.
08:44.00RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/caser/. Caser. Sunseth (Manager/Author). Approved by Ammo.
08:45.25Wobin@describe caser
08:45.27RepoWobin: http://www.wowace.com/projects/caser/. Caser. An addon to automate the process of pugging raids. It takes dualspec into account and will determine if people are needed in the raid. A more thourough description will come
08:45.34krkai got all the way until "error" before realizing ATM meant "at the moment"
08:49.18orionshockAdirelle|work: no, you pass it a ldb name or object, a spec name and a save method, and it evaluates that DO for the spec and saves it accordingly.
08:49.27orionshockthus the /dump command im using atm..
08:49.56Adirelle|worki think /dump is already in use (maybe ace2)
08:50.07Adirelle|workand what saves it where ? the errors ?
08:50.19orionshockwell the idea is to have a gui that displays it as plain &/or copyable text
08:50.26Adirelle|workoh
08:50.27orionshockit saves it to a SV entry
08:50.58orionshockit only _G.error()'s out when using bad arguments to begin with, like an invalid ldb DO ect :)
08:53.19Adirelle|workhrm, a small acegui thingy could be handy
08:53.28Adirelle|workor gui for that matter
08:53.52Adirelle|workjust have a dropdown with a list of DO and a text panel to display the errors
08:54.21orionshockmain frame with 2 / 3 dynamic drop downs and a big copy paste window.
08:54.54orionshockone dd with the ldb do's and a 2nd with the spec to choose from
08:55.21Adirelle|workah, yes ,the spec...
08:56.38Repo10master-loot: 03Ammo 04r35-release * r36 : Tagging as r35-release
08:57.28orionshockyes, i've got 4 atm
08:57.58orionshockthe 2 of them on the wiki and 2 of my own that make sense. I am all for any adding to it.
08:59.20Adirelle|workone dropdown to select the DO, one for the spec and a button to evaluate
08:59.35Adirelle|workactually you could "suggest" the spec from the type if any
09:02.36orionshockcould
09:02.54orionshock"LDB Validation Tool" -- sound like a good name?
09:06.06jnwhitehhow would it handle something like dynperf, which started off as valid, but then went out of spec
09:06.48Adirelle|workjnwhiteh: what ?
09:06.52orionshockjnwhiteh: that's the author's problem
09:06.59jnwhitehorionshock: oh, that's 99% of the issues I run into
09:07.00Adirelle|workorionshock: I'm the author ^^
09:07.06jnwhitehAdirelle|work: its as I told you before
09:07.12jnwhitehwhen you first log it it has a .text field
09:07.17jnwhitehthen it gets set to nil
09:07.20jnwhitehafter the addon is activated
09:07.25jnwhitehin violation of the data source spec
09:07.36Adirelle|workwait, I'll check the alpha
09:07.44jnwhitehyou _may_ have fixed it
09:07.47jnwhitehbut i stopped using the addon
09:07.50jnwhitehI was just using it as an example.
09:08.44orionshockjnwhiteh: this idea is to help authors of both feeds and displays come to a common point in the ambiguous spec that is LDB.
09:08.45Adirelle|workactually in the latest alpha, I'm doing this : when I have FPS to show, I set up amm text, value and suffix
09:09.05Adirelle|workif I only have text, I set text and value, and nil suffix
09:09.12jnwhitehyes, as I said you may have fixed it.. but certainly not in the release version
09:09.13Adirelle|workit always set text
09:09.16jnwhitehand I don't use alphas
09:09.18jnwhitehwell, it doesn't
09:09.19jnwhitehin release.
09:09.35jnwhitehI already reported this to you, and I promise I am not insane
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09:09.45orionshocksure about that?
09:10.11Repo10lock-smith: 03Ammo * r58 LockSmith.lua: use a better template for the button
09:10.14Repofix titanium lockbox id's
09:10.39Adirelle|workok, actually the latest beta does not set text ^^
09:10.50Adirelle|workI was quite sure it did though
09:11.38Repo10dynperf: 03Adirelle 04v1.0 * r9 : Tagging as v1.0
09:12.00Adirelle|worknow the latest release does
09:15.27Repo10crow-bar: 03Ammo * r46 CrowBar.lua: use a better template for the button
09:15.48Repo10crow-bar: 03Ammo 04r46-release * r47 : Tagging as r46-release
09:16.06Repo10lock-smith: 03Ammo 04r58-release * r59 : Tagging as r58-release
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09:17.15jnwhitehbut I am off to the office
09:17.17jnwhitehhave to shower
09:17.18jnwhitehthen go teach
09:17.34jnwhitehwhich i'm just going to bring my laptop to and see if i can get some work done
09:17.35jnwhitehmaybe
09:17.37jnwhitehi dunno
09:17.49jnwhitehwow.. this is entirely the wrong window =)
09:18.11jnwhitehgood thing my life isn't very exiciting
09:18.12[Ammo]:)
09:18.39jnwhitehYeah first I have to head out to score some crack, then go to the lab and see a man about an orgy
09:21.31Repo10ldbvalidationtool: 03OrionShock * r2 core.lua: inital import. mostly works via /dump dives. GUI to come.
09:23.13RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ldbvalidationtool/. LDB Validation Tool. OrionShock (Manager/Author). Approved by Ammo.
09:23.48RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/rosary/. Rosary. seremina (Manager/Author). Approved by Ammo.
09:23.53RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/repgain2/. Reputation Gain 2. texke (Manager/Author). Approved by Ammo.
09:24.05[Ammo]interested in seeing that Rosary thing
09:24.45orionshockinteresting indeed
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09:25.52Wobin@describe Rosary
09:25.53RepoWobin: http://www.wowace.com/projects/rosary/. Rosary. Catholics and Christians that play World of Warcraft may appreciate having a rosary handy for prayer or praise while in-game instead of having to alt+Tab to a rosary program, and its impossible to...
09:27.29robotuscho_O
09:27.39robotuschThat sounds somewhat awesome and win xD
09:32.59orionshockawkward would be the word i'd describe that with...
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09:34.32Repo10addon-loader: 03Ammo * r81 Overrides.lua: remove wotlk expection
09:34.35Reposort addons alphabetically
09:35.17[Ammo]oh my typing sucks
09:35.23[Ammo]exception, expection almost the same
09:37.22Repo10addon-loader: 03Ammo 04r81-release * r82 : Tagging as r81-release
09:37.23robotuschorionshock, if any of my raiders gave the excuse "I'm busy with my prayer rosaries", I don't think I'd be able to tank anything for a couple of minutes
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09:42.37Adirelle|workorionshock: thanks for using svn, I'd hate to have to install the 120mb-sized windows release of git
09:43.26orionshockAdirelle|work: i hate git tbh :)
09:43.56lezedepeze_please go on that link:
09:43.56lezedepeze_http://www.schwimmbadspiel.de/?refId=99828434
09:43.57lezedepeze_http://www.schwimmbadspiel.de/?refId=99828434
09:43.58lezedepeze_http://www.schwimmbadspiel.de/?refId=99828434
09:44.08*** mode/#wowace [+b *!*=lezedepe@*.dip.t-dialin.net] by [Ammo]
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09:44.11orionshockaeh...
09:44.15GrumPOOOOOOOFCRACK
09:47.23orionshockAll other realms will be undergoing our regularly scheduled maintenance which will begin at 3:00AM PDT and end at approximately 11:00AM PDT.
09:50.09dieckhi there. is there any way to get the item stats from an item link, like int, agi, str, spi, ap or sp?
09:51.00Wobindon't believe so
09:51.02vhaarronly by scanning the tooltip
09:51.03Wobinyou'll have to scan the tooltip
09:51.05[Ammo]dieck: tooltip, set item to it, scan tooltip
09:52.04dieckhm, ok
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09:53.23dieckas I already display the item in question with SetItemRef, I'd have to hangle through ItemRefTooltip?
09:53.41[Ammo]better to use your own hidden tooltip
09:53.51[Ammo]as other addons might modify the ItemRefTooltip
09:53.57dieckis there any addon that does something like this, so I may peek a little? I'm not that familier with FrameXML objects yet
09:54.05[Ammo]Gratuity library
09:54.21[Ammo]I think RatingBuster also uses a lib that gets the bonuses from items
09:54.25[Ammo]you might watn to check into that
09:54.41dieckah, that's already installed :) maybe rawr too, then. I'll have a look
09:55.01dieckthanks for the pointers to the right direction :)
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09:58.32Repo10grid: 03Greltok * r1193 / (2 files in 1 directory): Width of border indicator can now be adjusted.
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10:07.00Groktarso for the recruitafriend
10:07.18Groktarthink it would be faster to keep levelling a character to level 6
10:07.28Groktarand gifting two levels to the character
10:07.32Groktaror actually levelling them?
10:07.34Groktarhrmm
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10:32.00p4aved~wowalert
10:32.01purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
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10:57.53Adirelle|workantiarc : ping ?
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11:04.08Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r75 ZOMGBuffs.lua:
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11:08.17Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r281 / (3 files in 1 directory): XPerl: Version bump to 3.0.3b
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11:15.24Funkeh`netcurse, yeah, this new CC rocks!
11:15.28robotuschWhy so Fisker-
11:15.39Fisker-die
11:15.42[Ammo]tabcompletion fails
11:15.45robotuschdie Fisker- die
11:15.46airtonixFunkeh`, what is "CC"
11:15.54[Ammo]curse client
11:16.10airtonixnew as in? last week? last month? last year?
11:16.39Funkeh`...
11:16.47Funkeh`I was being sarcastic
11:17.20Fisker-i'm gonna be pretty poor robotusch
11:18.06Fisker-stop logging on to msn
11:18.11Fisker-that just cost me a dollar!
11:18.21robotuschD:
11:18.29Funkeh`about as much as your mum is worth Fisker-
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11:20.45airtonix~$ apt-cache show git | grep Size
11:20.46airtonixInstalled-Size: 60
11:20.46airtonixSize: 12188
11:21.38Funkeh`what the fuck is people sobsession with trying to modify the ldb specs
11:23.06Mikkcontemplates the merits of reheated hawaii pizza for lunch
11:23.34Funkeh`I like cold pizza
11:24.40Stanzillasame :>
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11:27.09Repo10libcandybar-3-0: 03Ammo * r19 bars.lua: bit more example documentation
11:27.26airtonixso yeah git on linux is only  60kb after installing
11:27.38airtonixmuwahaha
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11:38.45Funkeh`next, the world?
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11:43.34Stanzillaconquers Funkeh`s pants
11:44.40Funkeh`hot
11:49.21robotuschFisker-, get back here
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12:19.56Fisker-http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/05/12/4idos-gam4-nam4s-rev4al4d/ <-FUCKING OWNED
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12:26.45Asser_I need a bit of help
12:26.51jnwhiteh[Ammo]: lol i've been answering comments on AL and went to the page.. to see you applied a new patch 87 minutes ago
12:26.51jnwhitehlol
12:26.52Asser_I can't find the dropdown menu allowing me to upload files
12:26.57jnwhitehdunno why that amuses me
12:27.00Asser_To my newly approved project
12:29.18Asser_I'm browsing my project page (http://www.wowace.com/projects/caser/) - but I can't find any link to upload files...
12:29.46sb|work@describe spamagemeters
12:29.48Reposb|work: http://www.wowace.com/projects/spamagemeters/. SpamageMeters. SpamageMeters is a simple addon that suppresses chat messages from damage meters like Recount and instead provides single chat-link to provide the blocked damage statistics in a popup. At first this...
12:30.29Adirelle|workis there a recommended setting for git's core.autocrlf with wowace ?
12:30.38PneumatusAsser_: wowace projects dont allow file uploads
12:30.57nevcairielautocrlf should always be on when running on windows
12:30.58nevcairielimho.
12:31.13Asser_Pneumatus: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/getting-started-with-project-management/ says you can upload files....
12:31.30Pneumatusbecause the knowledgebase is common between curseforge and wowace
12:31.47Adirelle|worknevcairiel: though I agree, I take that answer as "nothing has been defined" ^^
12:31.48nevcairieleither "on" or "input" if you want, but thats all you should use
12:31.55nevcairielits your repo
12:31.57nevcairieldo wtf you want :P
12:32.08Pneumatuscurseforge allows zip uploads, wowace only allows repositories
12:32.09nevcairielautocrlf is a default setting in msysgit
12:32.16nevcairiellast i checked, anyway
12:32.26Asser_Pneumatus: project page on wowace refers to that knowledge base - that's a mistake or ?
12:32.27nevcairiel(or did it ask in the installer?)
12:32.33Adirelle|workit asks it
12:32.39nevcairielits stupid to store the crlf in the repository
12:32.53nevcairielsince with autocrlf everyone will get the right version automagically :)
12:33.12jnwhiteh:>filename
12:33.20jnwhitehwhy does that work to truncate a file? :P
12:33.20Adirelle|workactually I'm checking out antiarc's sexymap on windows, I already did on my linux box and didn't even think about that
12:33.25Pneumatusthe article was written with cf in mind, by the looks of it
12:33.36Pneumatusseeing as wowace doesnt have an option for WAR addons either
12:33.45Asser_Okay - where do I find information about uploading to my repository ?
12:33.53nevcairieldid you notice the wow in wowace?
12:33.54nevcairiel:D
12:34.07iphigeni1;D
12:34.23iphigeniablasted faulty renaming madness
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12:34.36Pneumatushttp://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-faq/
12:34.50nevcairieljnwhiteh: because ":" is some silly command that doesnt return anything, and if you redirect its output onto a file .. well its gone :)
12:34.56Asser_Pneumatus: Thanks
12:34.57jnwhitehwow
12:35.03jnwhitehi know the redirection
12:35.09jnwhitehjust had no idea that : was a command
12:35.13jnwhitehbi-zarre
12:35.21nevcairielneither did i, but my shell didnt complain when i typed it
12:35.25nevcairielno idea what it does
12:35.30nevcairielprobably used in some scripting
12:35.31jnwhitehheh
12:38.12Adirelle|workgrmf, wth does git-gui tell me it will convert LR to CRLF in my file ? oO (autocrlf=true)
12:38.26Grumbecause the original files in the repo were CRLF
12:38.34nevcairielthats not true
12:38.51nevcairielwith autocrlf = true, every file you checkout will be converted to CRLF, and when you check it in, it will be converted to LF
12:38.52Adirelle|workit checks them out as LF, according to notepad++
12:38.57nevcairielso in the repo its all LF
12:39.03nevcairieland on the filesystem all is CRLF
12:39.08Adirelle|worksomething's screwed here
12:39.35nevcairielwith autocrlf = input, it'll only convert them on commit to LF
12:39.42nevcairielso when its done, repo and FS are LF
12:39.51GrumWhen core.autocrlf is true, it means that the platform wants CRLF line endings for files in the working tree, and you want to convert them back to the normal LF line endings when checking in to the repository.
12:40.03Grumaccording to the manual at least
12:40.11nevcairielthat sounds right
12:40.16Adirelle|workyes, that do
12:40.19Adirelle|worktrying again
12:40.22nevcairielso on your local checkout, you have CRLF
12:40.26nevcairielwhile the repo has nice LF
12:40.41Grumfun part, you cant easily see what the repo has :D
12:41.05nevcairielunless you screwed up, it should always have LF
12:41.08Grumwell unless you do a change in autocrlf and force a checkout
12:41.16nevcairiel(also you can, just disable autocrlf and check out)
12:41.52Grumi just dislike windows for being retards even in this day and age and still working with CR ><
12:42.06GrumWE ARE NOT ON TYPEWRITERS ANYMORE!><
12:42.40Adirelle|workok, so, dished the gui and using only command-line, with autocrlf=input, it checks them out with LF
12:42.51Adirelle|workeverything's fine
12:44.40miica_can anyone give good addon tutorial link
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12:45.29dieckmiica_: i still like http://old.wowace.com/wiki/Ace3/Getting_Started though it may be partly incorrect by now
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12:46.25[Ammo]jnwhiteh: yeah, it was a decent enough patch after some mods :)
12:46.32jnwhitehhehe
12:46.34[Ammo]and it gave me an excuse to remove the wotlk check
12:46.58Trela_http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/
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12:48.23Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r6 / (3 files in 1 directory):
12:48.26RepoAdded options and function to suppress incoming whisper messages
12:49.49Repo10spamagemeters: 03Wrug * r7 libs/: Fixed svn:externals
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12:54.45orionshockso my roommate's computer has been crashing for the last 2 weeks or so, bout the same 3 bsod's under vista, xp and 7 ?betaRC2?  -- so my only recommendation is to give him a boot cd that has ubuntu 9 on it :)
12:56.40Stanzillaor check his hardware
12:57.13orionshockhe has
12:57.25steevcheck again
12:58.10orionshock*he has
12:58.29orionshockhe's a certified dell tech, sadly he has no money to be replacing parts atm
12:58.47steevcertified means dick
12:58.54orionshocklol
12:58.55Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r10 SpamageMeters.lua: Fixed HookRaw - RawHook and self-stuff
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12:59.13steevif its bluescreening in 3 different operating systems, ubuntu isn't gonna make it magically work
12:59.37orionshockhehe, well wouldn't hurt to try
13:00.08Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r11 SpamageMeters.lua: RawHook secure --> true
13:00.49sztanpetits probably some driver or memory problem, ubuntu just might solve it :D
13:01.16steevfail covered in fail
13:01.58orionshockhe says that 2 of the bsod's are nvidia related
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13:03.41steevif he's a certified dell tech, why doesn't he use his dell discount for the hardware?  and a video card isn't exactly expensive unless you are going for absolute top of the line
13:04.03orionshockeh.. he is certified, but not employed, thus no cash
13:04.15Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r12 SpamageMeters.lua: Debugging...
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13:13.41kadrahilyo
13:14.15Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r233 core.lua:
13:14.15kadrahilanyone around here know how frost DK raid dps is supposed to compare with the rest? :|
13:14.18Repomake ldb feed update 10 sec after loging in then every min after
13:15.08orionshockkadrahil: at what level?
13:15.29kadrahilorionshock: we're progressing in 25 man hard modes
13:15.42orionshockwhere?
13:15.45kadrahilulduar, heh
13:16.04kadrahillike last night on iron council hardmode... my damage was decent but i was bringing up the rear as far as melee was concerned
13:16.20Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r15 SpamageMeters.lua: Debugging
13:16.24kadrahilbut i'm pretty much there to buff the rest of the melee, i just can't tell if i'm supposed to be doing more myself
13:16.29kadrahilwith icy talons
13:17.20kadrahilgear might be a big difference, most of them have a few ulduar pieces already
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13:17.41orionshockto tell if your doing your job, are you more than 3% below the person directly above you in dps output?
13:17.49Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r16 SpamageMeters.lua: Debugging
13:17.56kadrahilnope
13:18.09orionshockthen your fine
13:18.09kadrahilone second, i'll find recount from our kill
13:18.23kadrahilorionshock: http://i41.tinypic.com/30tks4j.jpg
13:18.36kadrahilwe ended up killing them normally, that wasn't hardmode
13:18.57kadrahilidora is in nearly full ulduar gear, dagrith has a few pieces
13:19.17Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r17 SpamageMeters.lua: Debugging
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13:21.48orionshockkadrahil: this a heuristic break down, i used it alot when i was raid leading in nax25 ; #1-6 are performing on par, tho the rouge is prolly best geared or haxes. #7&8 are just below par, and ur at #9 on that 3% edge limit.
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13:22.30orionshockbasically your doing fine if your in pre Uludar gear and the rest have better than you.
13:22.42kadrahilwell, that's good to know
13:22.57orionshockstd metric for progression
13:23.01kadrahilahh
13:23.23Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r19 SpamageMeters.lua: Debugging
13:23.24orionshocknow if your all in nax25 gear and no better and your pulling in 9th, then you suck. well something is wrong
13:23.36orionshockcybey, what are you debugging wtf
13:23.43kadrahilwell, like i said, 2H frost isn't meant to be top raid damage
13:23.57kadrahilit's more of a melee support spec, but it should still be able to hold its own
13:23.58Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r20 SpamageMeters.lua: Debugging
13:24.25kadrahilfor comparison, idora is blood, dagrith is unholy
13:24.25orionshockkadrahil: don't let people tell you that, don't let anyone tell you how to play. Take their opinion, and when they say you can't do something, kindly tell them to shove it.
13:24.37kadrahilorionshock: lol, i wasn't saying that
13:24.42orionshockif you are skilled then it won't matter what spec you play, it will work and be competitive.
13:25.07kadrahilvery true
13:25.27orionshocki was tanking ZG and AQ20 in pre 1.12
13:25.40Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r21 SpamageMeters.lua: Debugging removed :)
13:25.41Wobinwell
13:25.48Wobinto a certain level
13:25.49orionshockthat was before the nerfs / buffs to feral
13:26.03Wobinif you're a great player, you can output good dps in any spec
13:26.04orionshock<PROTECTED>
13:26.16Wobinbut if you're a great player, a certain spec/style may output even more
13:26.33Wobinsimply due to skill synergy
13:26.37orionshocki have been defying the odds sense :) so just skill up and learn how each element of your class interacts
13:26.56kadrahilWobin: i'm more used to unholy, it's my most experienced and talented spec, but i offered to spec this way because they already had a good dedicated unholy DK :)
13:26.59Wobincookie cutter specs merely allow the -average- player to do decent damage
13:27.05kadrahili'm still getting used to this spec
13:27.11kadrahilit's a different rotation, different play style
13:27.16Wobinso true
13:27.24kadrahiland they know that so they aren't complaining
13:27.32Wobinblood frost and unholy all have different rotations, thankfully
13:27.41Wobinit makes each spec interesting in itself =)
13:27.43kadrahilhah yeah
13:27.56Wobinbut I maintain
13:27.57kadrahili'm using the glyph of howling blast and a single disease rotation
13:27.57Repo10ldbvalidationtool: 03OrionShock * r3 LDB_ValidationTool.toc: add toc file? aparently i missed this on inital commit
13:28.04WobinThe DK dps spec that has the most fun
13:28.12Wobinis any spec that includes Corpse Explosion =)
13:28.32Wobin*BOOM!* hahahaha!
13:28.35jnwhitehlol
13:28.56kadrahil:D
13:29.00kadrahilyou know
13:29.10kadrahili've NEVER specced into corpse explosion since wotlk's release
13:29.14Wobinthe Howling Blast glyph totally messed me up at first
13:29.17Zyndromecorpse explosion = loot griefing
13:29.28WobinZyndrome: nah, you can still loot and skin =P
13:29.28Zyndromeexplode C'thun = can't loot
13:29.32Wobinorly?
13:29.39Wobinfailbliz =)
13:29.45Zyndromedid that on an aq40 run
13:29.49Zyndromeboom
13:30.01Zyndrome"gg cant fucking loot! - yeh good fucking job" etc
13:30.16Wobinhehe terrible =)
13:30.51Zyndromebut hey it's a quick way to get rid of huge corpses!
13:31.16WobinEverything's so much neater once exploded
13:31.18Venara@describe spamagemeters
13:31.19RepoVenara: http://www.wowace.com/projects/spamagemeters/. SpamageMeters. SpamageMeters is a simple addon that suppresses chat messages from damage meters like Recount and instead provides single chat-link to provide the blocked damage statistics in a popup. At first this...
13:33.11dieckhm. do i see this right: via serialization it's possible to send whole objects via AceComm?
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13:34.14kadrahilWobin: last night on our iron council kill, we pulled, and i kid you not, i had 8 crits in a row opening
13:34.19kadrahillike
13:34.27kadrahil10k 10k 10k 8k 7k flying across my screen
13:34.38Wobinbet your tanks loved you =)
13:34.43kadrahilhaha
13:35.12WobinI <3 feral druids for LotP buff
13:35.17kadrahilyeah
13:35.22Wobinit makes my crit look pretty
13:35.29kadrahilmy raid buffed stats when we have everything
13:35.37kadrahilare something like 5104 AP and 40.3% crit
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13:36.32kadrahilif i'm going to start to compare with the rest of our best geared melee i need to get expertise capped and a buttload of armor pen
13:39.34miica_http://pastebin.com/m3c9def45 isn't this right? I looked some exampled from http://old.wowace.com/wiki/Ace3/Getting_Started but somereason i don't get anything while typying in raid chat :/
13:40.38miica_or is that tutorial out of date or something
13:41.07Wobinit looks about right...
13:41.32miica_and i got those libs in .xml and I load .xml and .lua in .toc
13:41.47Wobinmaybe move the registerevent into the oninitialize function?
13:42.09miica_hmm
13:42.32Wobinyou are the leader of said raid, right?
13:42.46miica_yes
13:45.18miica_now it works thanks :)
13:46.04miica_is it possible use another addon functions?
13:46.16Wobinif they're not local within the addon itself
13:47.20miica_looks like not :o
13:47.52miica_it is EPGP addon which one i wanna use also
13:48.25miica_will i just call them like EPGP:function or i need to do new EPGP?
13:48.38kadrahilhas anyone in here done iron council hardmode?
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13:54.31miica_oh nice it works :P
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13:56.48Wobinmiica_: the first
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14:01.34miica_Wobin: i start like this but now comes hardest part
14:01.42miica_Wobin: i should parse event message
14:03.17Wobinhehe =)
14:03.31miica_but maybe there is somekind lib for that also?
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14:10.40Wobinwell, that's what aceevent is for
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14:11.57miica_yeah but if somebody send message i wanna know does it start it with Panos or panos and does message contain offspec
14:12.28miica_panos is finnish and means same as bid :P
14:13.32miica_arg2 is sender and arg1 or arg3 is message
14:13.34WobinaceEvent will pass in the arguments to the event, including what is sent
14:14.23miica_yeah that message is there but how i chech does it contain some word?
14:14.53WobinYou'll have to learn about lua string matching
14:15.01Wobin~pil
14:15.02purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
14:15.24Wobinalso
14:15.28Wobin~wowprogramming
14:15.28purlWorld of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com
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14:19.16Funkeh`is there an updated guild raid leaderboard somewhere
14:20.34Repo10macro-bank: 03Odlaw * r30 MacroBank.lua:
14:20.37miica_Wobin: ncie, thanks again :)
14:20.37Repo- Will now save any changes to your main macro window when trying to save the macro to MacroBank.lua
14:20.40Repo- Added options to auto load macros when swapping talents.
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14:39.51Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r22 SpamageMeters.lua: Debug method and more options
14:40.02Michael_Im looking for a lib to scan an item from the auctionhouse into a table/db. any links for me?
14:45.28Michael_7away
14:49.41Gnarfoz@describe spamagemeters
14:49.42RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/spamagemeters/. SpamageMeters. SpamageMeters is a simple addon that suppresses chat messages from damage meters like Recount and instead provides single chat-link to provide the blocked damage statistics in a popup. At first this...
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14:53.08Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r23 / (2 files in 1 directory): Debugging...
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14:55.20Wobin... a lib to scan an item from the auctionhouse?
14:55.31Wobin><
14:56.37Repo10repgain2: 03texke * r6 / (3 files in 1 directory): Removed not needed libs
14:56.40RepoBugfix: Error when no info about some faction
15:01.50Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r208 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added option to hide in PvP instances.
15:01.53RepoManually hiding windows should now keep windows hidden.
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15:06.38Repo10spamagemeters: 03Cybey * r24 / (2 files in 1 directory): Debugging...
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15:08.47Repo10big-wigs: 03Anadale * r5564 / (2 files in 2 directories): BigWigs:
15:08.50Repo- Fixed a bug in Russian translation that prevented menu from opening
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15:15.55Repo10badboy_levels: 03funkydude * r23 / (2 files in 1 directory):
15:15.58Repobugfix my stupidity, don't add any level 1's to safe list...
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15:16.23Stanzilladamn Funkeh` :(
15:16.32Funkeh`what?
15:16.44Stanzillanothing, just bored
15:17.22Repo10badboy_levels: 03funkydude 04v1.4.1 * r24 : Tagging as v1.4.1
15:19.40miica_Is somewhere library list? :o
15:21.55Funkeh`that sounds english to me :P
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15:29.43Funkeh`Kaelten, holdup with new client?
15:29.58Kaeltenhrm?
15:30.09Funkeh`it was supposed to be out "yesterday"
15:30.53nicoli_shad to do some more internal testing Funkeh`
15:31.12Kaeltenyeah we're going to be getting the update out soon
15:33.52Funkeh`I dislike the word soon
15:35.09nicoli_ssoonish?
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15:49.03steevsometime in the near future?
15:49.14steevpersonally, i prefer "when its done" as a release date
15:52.08Grumbefore christmas after lunch
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15:54.47nicoli_swell its not as much as when its done as when its done being tested
15:55.30kadrahil~seen NeoTron
15:55.34purlneotron is currently on #wowuidev (11h 37m 12s) #wowace (11h 37m 12s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 11h 16m 18s, last said: 'sounds to me you didn't optimize it'.
15:55.42kadrahil:|
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15:58.43Repo10libcandybar-3-0: 03Ammo 04r20-release * r20 : Tagging as r20-release
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16:00.04RockSlicerI don't like the "when it's done" release date.  We'd have so few software releases if all devs followed that rule
16:00.16[Ammo]who cares :p
16:00.21RockSlicerthere's always something more that needs to be done :)
16:00.30[Ammo]not if there is a fixed todo list
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16:00.50RockSlicerincluding bug-smashing?
16:01.13[Ammo]known bugs yeah
16:01.17[Ammo]can't smash the unknown
16:01.19RockSlicerand features that you realize halfway into it that really should have been on the todo list all along?
16:01.35[Ammo]shrug
16:01.43[Ammo]a proper release manager will poke right through that
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16:06.22draculaare only those settings that differ from the defaults stored in SavedVariables profile?
16:06.30draculausing AceDB-3.0...
16:06.43[Ammo]correct
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16:17.30Stanzillaahaha http://tech.uk.msn.com/news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=16646244
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16:27.49Repo10scrolling-combat-text: 03Saur * r12 locals/localization.ru.lua:
16:27.52Reposct: Prevent the Russian translation from messing up the English locale...
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16:40.58Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r815 Data/Warrior.lua: - Fix for Victory Rush, maybe.
16:47.09Repo10repgain2: 03texke * r7 / (2 files in 2 directories): NPC tooltips added
16:47.12RepoRework of data-arrays
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16:51.00ulicjfyi, looks like rewards points didn't get applied today, or at least for me they didn't.
16:52.54durcyni like how i'm getting more points for an inactive, obsolete project than anything current
17:03.58Fisker-so nevcairiel
17:04.02Fisker-eu account merges tonight
17:04.34Stanzillanot
17:05.34Fisker-tomorrow then
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17:08.09HjalteI've heard that before Fisker-.
17:08.25HjalteWill you disappoint me again?
17:08.42durcynwhy do you even want account merges, battle.net authentication flakes out even more than wow authentication
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17:10.40Fisker-durcyn i believe i've already answered that question multiple times
17:10.51Fisker-but yeah, hopefully they'll iron out the "lolretard" bugs
17:11.02Fisker-and Hjalte i always disappoint
17:11.26Fisker-"But omg account management will be down from 23:00 CEST"
17:13.23Fisker-anyways we all know summer i now
17:13.24Fisker-is*
17:13.28Fisker-so SC2 beta tomorrow
17:13.29Fisker-believe it
17:14.15durcynyou're not getting in the beta
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17:20.52Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r209 / (4 files in 2 directories): Fixed up Hide in PvP option.
17:21.15Repo10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03ckknight * r196 Categories/Cast.lua: possible bugfix for double-free issue.
17:22.36Fisker-of course i am durcyn
17:22.53durcynnope, europe = ban
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17:25.20nicoli_sreally fisker? what makes you think tom?
17:25.28nicoli_sand wasnt there some countdown going on supposedly?
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17:33.30Fisker-nicoli_s that countdown is already over as far as i know
17:33.44GnarfozFunkeh`, vhaarr: does yogg-saron have something that flashes and shakes, yet? if not, may I suggest being debuffed with "Sara's Fervor"? +100% dmg taken is kind of lethal :\
17:34.09Fisker-oh yeah?
17:34.11Fisker-What if it's not?
17:34.44nicoli_sfisker, what makes you think the beta is tom?
17:35.00Fisker-randomg guessing
17:35.03Fisker-random*
17:35.45Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03arith * r2046 Locales/constants.tw.lua: minor translation updated
17:36.51nicoli_sawww i got all worked up cuz i thought you had some inside info or something
17:37.35Fisker-Well one day i'll be right
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17:39.52nicoli_si cannot wait till we start a sc2 site
17:45.49PneumatusGnarfoz: low sanity has flash+shake iirc
17:45.57Pneumatus@40 or something like that
17:47.02GnarfozPneumatus: no, it has built-in red corners :)
17:47.04Gnarfozi.e. that's from wow
17:48.09Pneumatussanity_desc = "Warn when your Sanity stack drops below 40.",
17:48.24Gnarfozthat is superfluous, really
17:48.25Gnarfoz^^
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17:50.00Pneumatustheres a self-check for sanity of 40, and whispers for 30
17:50.09Pneumatusi thought it had flash+shake but it might not
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17:53.53winkillermhm, I just noticed the 1000 downloads thingy
17:54.25winkillerwith 466 and 3 average daily I get a premium account in no less than...6 months. yay
17:54.38winkillerI'm made of awesomeness
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17:59.47nicoli_swell if it makes you feel any better, i work for curse and still dont have premium
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18:01.05Grumnicoli_s: you must not be important!
18:01.09winkillerhey, I'm not bitter
18:01.21winkillerI just did the addon because I wanted to try out lua
18:01.43winkillerI was shocked to learn I *have* 466 downloads already 8)
18:02.01nicoli_s@Grum: well if we base importance on how many curse sites i maintain, then im more important than anyone else here :)
18:02.28Grum:P
18:02.59Pneumatusmost of curse sites are rubbish though :P
18:03.04[Ammo]you are nothing nicoli_s
18:03.07kadrahiloh snap
18:03.15Pneumatus"most" is probably being a bit generous
18:03.15[Ammo]:p
18:03.28winkillermhm, I count 3 now
18:03.32winkillerc, cf and wa
18:03.34winkillerany more?
18:03.44Pneumatusnon-rubbish ones, winkiller?
18:03.53winkillerin general
18:03.54nicoli_sdouble ouch
18:04.00Pneumatuswowdb, wor
18:04.02winkillernot statin any rubbish factor deliberatly
18:05.34Pneumatuswardb, aoc armory, warhammer alliance, aion source and arenajunkies
18:05.41Pneumatusprobably covers most of them
18:05.54nicoli_syou saying all of those suck?
18:06.13winkillerwowhead > wardb and never bothered with any others. <3 my wowace :P
18:06.17nicoli_show do you compare wowhead and wardb, they are for 2 diff games
18:06.23winkillererr, wowdb
18:06.28Pneumatusi couldnt comment on wardb, aoc armory, warhammer alliance or aion source, but wardb, wor and AJ suck imo :)
18:06.31winkillersee, I can't even read anymore!
18:07.04winkillerwardb is idd nice
18:07.07Pneumatusalthough arenajunkies probably has some use to pvpers
18:07.29nicoli_swhile wowdb may not be the same popularity of wowhead i wouldnt say it sucks
18:07.41Pneumatusif its data was accurate it wouldnt suck
18:07.45Pneumatusbut its not
18:07.54nicoli_sexamples so that i can fix it?
18:07.57winkillerif there were users
18:08.05Grumnicoli_s: thorium nodes in WPL
18:08.10winkillerthere are never any comments
18:08.12winkiller:(
18:08.21Pneumatusyeh, wpl gathering nodes have been fucked since 3.0
18:08.25Pneumatusfor one example
18:08.33nicoli_sk, i'll look into that
18:08.35Grumnot true?
18:08.48Grumafaik wowhead has ok data
18:08.52Grumit took manual fixing
18:09.09Pneumatusall gathering nodes should be time-limited on database sites
18:09.14Grumbut that is what community sites do
18:09.22Pneumatusif they arent seen for x amount of time after a patch, they get deleted
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18:09.26Grumalso there are missing plants in some areas
18:09.33nicoli_swowhead has good data because its all manually validated and they have a team to do that
18:09.36Grumea felweed in netherstorm
18:09.41nicoli_swe unfortunaely do not
18:10.09winkillerfret not, people use wowdb when wowhead is down :)
18:10.13Pneumatusnicoli_s: you also arent localized in as many languages as wowhead
18:10.25nicoli_si know, because maintaining it would be a total hassle
18:10.27winkillerseriously, I see no problems with any site. I jsut don't like wowdb
18:10.31nicoli_sits a hassle enough just for english
18:10.36Pneumatusyour talent calculator doesnt include glyphs
18:10.45nicoli_sbecause we have a glyph calculator
18:10.59Pneumatusyou dont have a pet calculator
18:11.06nicoli_swe do its just not active :P_
18:11.56Grumso you dont ;)
18:11.59Pneumatusyou dont have ulduar sets in Item Sets
18:12.07Pneumatusthe ilevels are wrong on half the sets that are currently in there
18:12.15Arrowmasterckknight: what happened to the points! its been 26 hours since i last got any points!
18:12.22Pneumatusor, your missing 3.0 sets as well
18:12.41nicoli_syah, thats a known issue ,will be fixed whenever we do our next push Pneumatus
18:13.34Grumhow often do you do pushes?
18:13.39winkilleras if Pneumatus had a secret list of annoyances to pull out :P
18:13.54Pneumatuswinkiller: stuff ive just come up with off the top of my head
18:14.06Pneumatusi tried using wowdb for a while, but gave up on it because it annoyed me too much
18:14.33Pneumatuswowdb doesnt have comparison either, does it?
18:15.05nicoli_sit doesnt have an item comparison like wowhead, but we do have tooltip comparison with stat up/down
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18:15.12Nechckn_AFKLack of a feature isn't even that huge of a thing, the incorrect data is.
18:15.36Pneumatusachievements -> statics serves no purpose, and the achievement headings should be listed as in-game imo
18:15.39nicoli_sgrum: once in a blue moon
18:15.41Pneumatus*statistics
18:15.52nicoli_syah, been meaning to remove that one
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18:16.36Repo10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r218 / (3 files in 1 directory): Add new script to scrape wowhead.com for all flying mounts.
18:16.39RepoUpdate the flying mounts file.
18:18.26Pneumatusi seem to remember reputation gains listed on quests being incorrect sometimes, but i can't find an example of that atm
18:18.41Pneumatusand adding quests to watchlists, why?
18:19.00nicoli_sso you can keep track of quests you want to do? i dunno i didnt add that feature
18:19.00Pneumatus*wishlists
18:19.57Pneumatuswowheads weight scale is nice too, which you dont have
18:20.10nicoli_swe will
18:20.29nicoli_sim adding it for another of our sites right now, which just needs some small tweaking to work on all of them
18:21.09nicoli_sone cool thing about ours too is it hooks into the pinned items, so you can search for upgrades to items you have pinned using the weights
18:21.19Pneumatusitems, Drops In: Ulduar returns nothing
18:21.53Grum'next push' !
18:22.18nicoli_sactually yeah :P
18:22.36Pneumatusthat's no use if i want to know now
18:22.47nicoli_si know, just letting you know
18:23.03Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r192 / (3 files in 2 directories): Return of the Cooldown frame!
18:24.24Pneumatusabyssal crystals drop in Ahn'Kahet: The Old Kingdom, pro
18:24.35nicoli_sbut thanks for the feedback
18:24.39Pneumatusand are dropped by multiple bankers
18:24.44Pneumatuswe must kill more bankers!
18:25.25Pneumatusemblems of heroism are skinned from 25 different mobs
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18:25.29Pneumatusthe list goes on :<
18:25.29Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r191 / (3 files in 2 directories): --Mine Misc.Key
18:26.07nicoli_swell for some of those, yell at ckknight, his addon obviously needs some fixerating
18:26.39nicoli_sfor the incorrect drops/skin/sells stuff
18:27.25Pneumatuswell, i guess the issue is two-fold, between the people auditing the uploaded data, and what actually gets uploaded
18:28.09Pneumatusdo you have some form of process where by if a bug in the addon is fixed the errors that it caused are resolved on the site?
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18:28.19Pneumatusor does bad data just hang around forever?
18:28.51nicoli_sthere's no automatic way, but we could scrub the bad data out and just let it refill
18:29.45Arrowmasterim unemployeed, hire me and ill make it more accurate
18:30.04nicoli_sif i could i would
18:30.12nicoli_sid love to hire someone to help maintain all these sites
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18:30.43nicoli_smaybe now that premium is out that can finally happen
18:31.21Arrowmasteri would give up my amazon giftcards for real money at in increased rate
18:31.30Pneumatuswowdb could be as good as wowhead with its client installbase, but it contains a lot of innacuracies that would need squashing
18:31.57nicoli_si agree 100% Pneumatus
18:32.20Pneumatusalso, the drops in mode, "Normal or Heroic Mode" vs "Normal and Heroic Mode" makes absolutely no sense
18:32.46Pneumatusnot that it seems to work anyway
18:32.51Pneumatus(any of the options)
18:33.31nicoli_sk, will add that to the list
18:33.34Pneumatus... @ naxxramas having the old level 60 naxx loot, not the new instance
18:34.35Pneumatusand i can say with absolute certainty that Jaggal Clam Meat didnt drop in the old naxx
18:35.16Pneumatusi wonder what that zone filter is actually showing
18:40.59draculaZeksie: after casting a druid HoT on myself: XPerl-3.0.3b\XPerl_Highlight.lua:533: attempt to call global 'fluctuateOnUpdate' (a nil value)
18:41.42draculawhich makes me wonder, what is the scope of a "local function x"
18:43.13Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r192 LibPeriodicTable-3.1.toc: --Update toc
18:44.03cncfanaticsbloody hell, studying maths is sooooo boring :(
18:44.17nicoli_si hear that
18:44.22Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth 04v192 release * r193 : Tagging as v192 release
18:44.39TorhalDid the time points are generated change?
18:47.39nicoli_si dunno, ask ckknight
18:48.02ckknightjust wait.
18:48.45Torhalnicoli_s: See? This is what happens when you ping him. He becomes all cryptic. It's creepy.
18:49.18cncfanaticsckknight is always cryptic :p
18:49.19nicoli_syer telling me, you should hear him laughing right now, even creepier
18:49.26nicoli_she's cackling madly
18:49.26TorhalHeh
18:49.31ckknightmostly I just tell stories about sheep.
18:49.38cncfanaticssheep are awesome
18:49.44ckknightwell that's true
18:49.50nicoli_si should also mention i am cryptic, so sheep stories = cackling madly
18:49.52cncfanaticsckknight: feel like studying my mathematics for me ?
18:50.01ckknightmath is fun, cncfanatics
18:50.07cncfanaticsit is, but not this kind of maths
18:50.23cncfanaticssome idiot brabling about different algorithms while he barely understands them himself
18:50.29cncfanaticsand his notes are so god damn fucking CRAP
18:50.54Torhalcncfanatics: Watch your fucking language.
18:51.14cncfanaticsfucking languages are cool, I like them
18:51.19Torhal:D
18:51.39TorhalLanguage porn? Whoah.
18:52.04ckknightcncfanatics: bad teachers suck.
18:52.04kadrahilcncfanatics: interesting that you used the word crap at the end of the string of swears, there
18:52.45cncfanaticskadrahil: what word would you have suggested ?
18:53.21cncfanaticsckknight: he just had a kid, can't really blame him, but he shouldn't have bothered coming back and should have gotten a replacement arranged
18:54.04RockSlicehow does just having a kid excuse him?
18:54.21cncfanaticshe probably doesn't get much sleep at night because of that :p
18:54.40ckknightirrelevant
18:54.48ckknightif he's not doing his job, he's not doing his job.
18:54.50Torhalcncfanatics: Sell his kidneys on eBay.
18:54.55ckknightthat's all that should matter
18:55.16cncfanaticsagreed, which is why he shld have gotten a replacement
18:55.55cncfanaticseither way; I'll stop anoying everyone with my QQ and get back to deciphering those notes
18:58.48ckknighthey all
18:59.04ckknightreward points just got calculated. There was a bug, but it's all fixed now.
18:59.51nevcairiela bug that gave me more points?
19:00.37ckknightno, the bug was that it didn't read a feed correctly, making it look like all addons had 0 installs and downloads. I've put in an assert now (that emails me on failure) that verifies that the feed has proper data
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19:02.15Torhalckknight: Is it acceptable to blame Fisker-?
19:02.20Fisker-yes
19:02.23Fisker-It is always acceptable
19:02.24ckknightTorhal: yes, perfectly acceptable.
19:02.35Fisker-http://torrentfreak.com/france-passes-three-strikes-anti-piracy-law-090512/ :3
19:03.12Megalonvisiting that site you already trigger the first strike? :[
19:03.15Repo10simple-unit-frames: 03Pneumatus * r104 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Add zhCN locale file. Thanks for the translations q09q09!
19:03.31Fisker-naw
19:03.34Fisker-or maybe
19:03.40Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn * r155 locale-enUS.lua: move locale to localization app
19:03.48Fisker-just talking about piracy = piracy these days
19:04.16nevcairielGo and vote for the pirates party at the EU elections!
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19:04.34Pneumatus"Internet access for that subscriber will be terminated for up to a year - and theyÂ’ll have to keep paying their ISP bill throughout this period too." -- love to see how that would work on non-annual subscription plans
19:04.53nevcairielmaybe they don't have those :p
19:04.54Fisker-well if you pay for a month, you pay monthly for a year?
19:05.15Fisker-anyways troll epically
19:05.24Fisker-send DMCA notices to the lawmakers isp's
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19:08.14Repo10shamanwarning: 03Silmano 04v1.1.1 * c723a1a /: [new tag, +1 commits]
19:08.17Repo- Fixed some minor code bugs with trinkets.
19:08.20Repo- Trinket warnings still being tested!
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19:11.50Fisker-can you copyright a blank image? :P
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19:14.20Hell-Razorhrmmm...wtf happened to the wow servers
19:15.02Fisker-It's a shame wowmatrix isn't french aight ckknight ? :3
19:15.34ckknightlol
19:15.47ckknighteh, even still, what they do now is legal
19:16.09Fisker-so what?
19:16.16Fisker-Doesn't have to be illegal to randomly send out DMCA letters
19:16.19nicoli_swell they still ahve code in that removes the carbonite copyright
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19:16.46Fisker-i don't even get why they do that
19:16.53nevcairielthats why you should vote for the pirate party in the EU elections!
19:17.14Fisker-how do i vote?
19:17.15Fisker-:3
19:17.37nicoli_sfisker, probably so that the users can go "but carbonite isnt copyrighted, so wowmatrix can host it"
19:17.52nevcairielFisker-: danes dont go to the euro elections? :p
19:18.03Fisker-dunno
19:18.09nevcairielits on the 7th of june, i think
19:18.18Fisker-Well haven't heard of any upcoming votes
19:18.25Fisker-and haven't gotten any voting ballot or whatever it's called
19:18.31nevcairielwe got ours today
19:18.54Pneumatusi got a letter saying mine is due soon, the other day
19:18.55nevcairielbut i have to sign in for mail-voting, since i'm out of town
19:20.27Fisker-giev new argent tournament dailies
19:20.37Pneumatusthis ^^
19:21.03durcyndidn't neth say there'd be some more in 3.2?
19:21.16Fisker-well they need to enable valiant dailies for champions imo :E
19:21.22nicoli_si thought so durcyn
19:21.24Fisker-just halved my income on doing that
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19:22.31Pneumatusis there an addon that can scan "Auction Successful" mails, and make a list of all the items you recieved gold from for later viewing?
19:23.00Pneumatusideally, i want a way of telling how many of certain items i collected gold from, and min/max/avg for that item
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19:23.14Grumhow would you call such an addon?
19:23.36miica_I got 2 event and now each event call they own function but which is best way to use same function for both event
19:23.55TorhalPneumatus: Look at how NutCounter does it and go from there.
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19:25.17Pneumatusthe quantities of each item sold i think are the most important for my purposes, so i know which glyphs i need to craft more of and relist
19:25.29Pneumatusat the moment i write them down as i open the mails :<
19:26.01TorhalPneumatus: That's the one thing NutCounter doesn't do, and I don't believe it can because the quantity isn't shown in the incoming mail.
19:26.26Pneumatuswell, the amount of auction success mails could be counted
19:26.41Pneumatusand you know how much you listed the items for
19:26.47TorhalThe only way I can see to do it is to also hook into the auction frame and remember quantity/price, then compare the incoming mail's text and amount.
19:26.49Pneumatusand how many you listed
19:26.52Pneumatusyeh
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19:28.08TorhalThe only accurate way, since you could list (for example) a 5-stack of an herb for 7g34s12c and then an hour later list the same combination for 6g95s5c
19:29.03Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r1801 / (7 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
19:29.06Repoadded missing Leatherworking trainer data, Ticket 551
19:29.10Repoadded missing Alchemy trainer data, Ticket 548
19:29.12Repoadded missing Enchanting trainer data, Ticket 541,553
19:29.15Repoadded missing Engineering trainer data, Ticket 550
19:36.23Repo10dr-damage: 03Detseuqer 071.6.2b-1 * r816 / (2 files in 1 directory):
19:36.25RepoBranching off r814 to commit some changes and then tag as a release.
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19:41.36ckknighthey all, who wants to see a screenie of new website's ticket listing?
19:41.46Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn * r156 Heatsink.lua: rework interrupt handler
19:41.52nevcairielsure, show away
19:42.27Fisker-i can't handle the screenie
19:44.54Torhalckknight: Less screenie, more deployage!
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19:53.22pompy>< http://www.wowace.com/comments/30154-treesaysmoo-hi-i-currently-use-wow-matrix-and-they/
19:53.36Fisker-OMG I TOLD YOU I COULDN'T HANDLE IT
19:53.46ckknightHANDLE IT!
19:53.49ckknightpompy: ugh.
19:54.05nicoli_slol
19:54.21haste"By taking advantage of this system, you will see a significant increase in the number of donations, and even more so when new versions are released."
19:54.24hastehaha
19:54.33hasteway to fetch the greedy fuckers
19:54.45NeoTronShady stuff @ curse
19:54.48nevcairielthe greedy fuckers should come to curse
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19:55.10ckknightoh hey
19:55.17ckknightnext curse client push will have donate buttons
19:55.21ckknightso you know.
19:55.26nicoli_sgiant ones
19:55.32nicoli_slike bigger than the app itself
19:55.33ckknightGINORMOUS IN YO FACE
19:55.38nevcairielckknight: are the point-prices for the amazon gift thignys final, or still changing too?
19:55.40ckknightactually, it's very reasonable
19:56.05ckknightnevcairiel: no such thing as final, things can always change. For the most part, yes, but we can change based on feedback.
19:56.27cncfanaticshmmm, countries are starting to get desperate about piracy
19:56.38nevcairielwell was more wondering if its some sort of placeholder or some half-accurate value already =)
19:56.43cncfanaticsseems obama is for the 3-strikes law france is passing also oO
19:56.55nicoli_s:S
19:57.14nevcairielI tell you, vote pirate party
19:57.17nicoli_si already have one vote
19:57.20nevcairielthey won't let shit like that happen
19:57.21ckknightnevcairiel: oh, the point prices. Yea, they're accurate.
19:57.40cncfanaticsthing is, the 3-strikes law is very very difficult to implement by ISPs
19:57.44cncfanaticsso I doubt it'll actualy ever happen
19:57.52nicoli_sone strike*
19:57.54cncfanaticsif it happened to get implemented, its very easy to get around it still
19:58.06nicoli_sdo they carry over when you change ISPS?
19:58.12nevcairielckknight: so i can already calc how much $$ i can get once you guys open shop
19:58.17ckknightcorrect.
19:58.21nevcairielwants a ebook reader
19:58.36Kaeltennevcairiel: I'm looking at the kindle personally
19:58.46nevcairielI saw a pretty awesome one
19:58.52nevcairielbut they're only releasing it in 2010
19:58.55nevcairielA4 format
19:58.58nevcairielthin etc
19:59.02Kaeltenheh
19:59.03cncfanaticsnicoli_s: haven't read the details, i'm not a french citizen, thank god
19:59.07Pneumatusi assume the non-us vouchers will be in local currency though, rather than USD
19:59.23nicoli_swhy? the USD is all might and unwavering!
19:59.30nicoli_smighty*
19:59.37KaeltenPneumatus: yeah, most likely anything in EU will cost more fo rthe same ammount
20:00.42PneumatusGBP is like monopoly money at the moment, id rather save my points till the recession is over :P
20:01.17nevcairielGBP is the new rubel
20:01.19Pneumatushmm, actually it could work in our favor
20:01.40Pneumatusat like 1.4 USD to GBP, we'd get more GBP per USD than at like 2.0
20:01.48durcynl
20:01.50nevcairielyeah if GBP is low, that means USD is high, more GBP for less points
20:01.51Pneumatusif my mind is working it out round the right way
20:02.00nevcairielin theory
20:02.37Pneumatuswhen GBP is at like 2.0 USD it favors purchasing in USD, but i guess now its lower GBP is worth more against it
20:05.48vhaarrGnarfoz: in p1 there's no flash
20:05.56vhaarrGnarfoz: in p2 we flash on low sanity and brain link
20:06.43Gnarfozhmmm.
20:06.45Gnarfozyeah, it's for p1
20:06.51vhaarrI know
20:06.59vhaarrI don't see why we need to flash for that though?
20:07.48Gnarfozbecause it instakills you if you have it
20:07.54Gnarfozand you're next to one of the guardians
20:08.01vhaarrif you stand next to a explosion, yes
20:08.06Repo10yssdrop: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0-1-g1d96581 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] how about we do not generate tonnes of trash each time a new broker is registerd. instead we just referenace the same table over and over again and thus not only produce less trash but use a lot less tables which is always a good thing
20:08.15Repo10yssdrop: 03yssaril 04v1.0.1 * 464527b /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0.1
20:08.21Gnarfozyeah
20:08.24vhaarrbut it gets thrown around a lot, there's no reason to flash unless you're very close to a guardian
20:08.26Gnarfozit's only useful in 10man I guess
20:08.47vhaarrwhich means the spam<->usefulness ratio is too low for it to flash imo
20:08.54Gnarfozand actually, I'm not sure it gets thrown around alot, that's the DoT
20:09.09vhaarrokay well you get me numbers on how many times it's used on average
20:09.23Gnarfozwhat I should do is, do this locally and see if it's annoying :D
20:09.26vhaarrif it's just a 2-3 times during p1 then possibly
20:09.38vhaarrwell it won't be annoying for you if you want this warning
20:09.48vhaarrit'll be annoying for the people who don't need it, who are always far from the mobs
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20:10.06NeoTronspeaking of errors - bigwigs end_message for Hodir is incorrect
20:10.18vhaarru gief fix?
20:10.43NeoTron"I... I am released from his grasp... at last."
20:11.00NeoTronpunctuation and space differences
20:11.09NeoTronI don't currently have bigwigs repo checked out
20:11.33vhaarr-end_trigger = "I...I am released from his grasp! At...last!",
20:11.33vhaarr+end_trigger = "I... I am released from his grasp... at last.",
20:11.38vhaarrcorrect?
20:12.09NeoTronyep
20:12.11Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r193 DeathMessages.lua:
20:12.13vhaarrthanks
20:12.14Repo[*]Core: Remove incorrect leading space for Hodir death message.
20:12.21NeoTronI have failed to fix mine 3 times now :P
20:12.25Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5565 Ulduar/Hodir.lua: Fix end trigger.
20:12.26vhaarrlol
20:12.30nevcairiellol
20:12.40NeoTronI copied from chat box last week and apparently added a leading space
20:12.40Tristanianminor fix :p
20:13.21Arrowmastercopying from anything but transcriptor logs isnt reliable
20:13.50Arrowmasterremember i found out why the aq20 rajaxx yells werent working a very long time ago?
20:13.54Arrowmasterthey ended with \r\n
20:14.01vhaarryeah
20:14.29Arrowmastermajor blizz fail
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20:14.43vhaarrthat's not the only thing they did
20:14.53vhaarrthey also used the unicode ellipsis ... thingy
20:14.58vhaarror something, in BWL if I'm not mistaken
20:15.04Arrowmasterheh
20:15.14nevcairielthe one on action buttons for range indication?
20:15.30vhaarrseems our Mimiron end trigger is also borked
20:15.34vhaarr-end_trigger = "^It would appear that I made a slight miscalculation.",
20:15.35vhaarr+end_trigger = "^It would appear that I've made a slight miscalculation.",
20:15.43vhaarrcan anyone confirm/deny if that change is correct?
20:15.57nevcairielthe second one is correct grammar, but shrug
20:16.06nevcairieli dunno
20:16.07vhaarrthey're both correct
20:16.11vhaarrgramatically, I believe
20:16.12Tristanian2nd one sounds like blizz :P
20:16.27nevcairielI don't think i had a kill transcriptor
20:16.33nevcairielchecks
20:16.37Tristanianme neither :s
20:16.42ckknightvhaarr: they're both correct grammar, I'd say second is more correct.
20:16.52ArrowmasterFUCKING WIN! http://www.teamfortress.com/sniperupdate/
20:16.54EvilJohnboth are grammatically weak
20:17.20EvilJohn"It appears I made a slight miscalculation."
20:17.32EvilJohnwould be preferable
20:17.43ckknightit's past tense vs. perfect tense, vhaarr
20:18.13ckknightactually, it's past vs. present perfect
20:18.13ckknightyea
20:18.25nevcairielwell in combination with "would appear" the present perfect seems better, imho
20:18.37nevcairielbut that still doesnt help us with what blizz used
20:18.38nevcairiel;)
20:19.22vhaarrokay well the real question is, which one does mimiron use :P
20:19.30vhaarranyway bbl food
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20:20.38Xinhuanwell you could just include both for now, and remove the wrong one later
20:20.45kinetikwell hello there
20:21.10kinetikgood old IRC, who would have thought wowace had a channel
20:21.49Arrowmastereverybody that reads the stickies on the forums
20:21.59kinetiktrue
20:22.58kinetikok so if i delete WYF folder my saved variables are removed, how can i do this with code ?
20:23.06kinetiknot sure what toi search for in documentation
20:23.20nevcairielof _all_ addons?
20:23.23nevcairielor just your addon?
20:23.25kinetikjust my addon
20:23.40nevcairieljust nil out the variable you specified in the .toc
20:23.42Xinhuanvhaarr: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjecQKcGuD4, watch the High Definition version, and scroll to 7:41 of the video
20:23.46rubikvhaarr: "5/6 22:25:36.585  Mimiron yells: It would appear that I've made a slight miscalculation. I allowed my mind to be corrupted by the fiend in the prison, overriding my primary directive. All systems seem to be functional now. Clear.
20:23.48nevcairiel## SavedVariables: MyVar
20:23.53nevcairielthen do "MyVar = nil"
20:23.55nevcairieland voila
20:23.56nevcairielits gone
20:24.00kinetikok
20:24.09kinetikso can i read in all vars, and then set all to nil ?
20:24.10ckknightkinetik: wowace has had an IRC channel for years
20:24.11ckknight:P
20:24.18kinetikor should i know all the vars that will be used
20:24.23Xinhuan"It would appear that I've made a slight miscalculation. I allowed my mind to be corrupted by the fiend in the prison, overriding my primary directive. All systems seem to be functional now. Clear."
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20:25.29kadrahilSTEP 4: WHACK THAT BEAR LIKE YOU HAVENT A CARE!!!!!!!
20:25.37kadrahili think i just died
20:25.45kadrahili haven't read this post in forever
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20:38.03Repo10yssdrop: 03yssaril 07master * v1.0.1-2-g1aa43e9 YssDrop.toc: [+1 commit] update toc
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20:42.16Repo10incubator: 03durcyn 06rewrite * r190 / (12 files in 1 directory): start porting to ace3/libcandybar-3.0/libdatabroker
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20:43.16Repo10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r5566 / (3 files in 2 directories): BigWigs: ruRU update
20:46.50durcynFisker-: it's actually pretty good for arcane spec
20:47.48Megalonand every other caster :x
20:47.59durcyneh, i wouldn't want it as a warlock
20:48.42Fisker-Arcane Talents: 0 though durcyn
20:48.53durcynFisker-: you're just jealous
20:49.01Fisker-naw
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20:57.21k1net1kgeneral question, what do you guys use for your development environment for writing addons ?
20:57.43durcynk1net1k: vim.
20:59.01nevcairielnotepad++
20:59.15k1net1kso u just use text editors of your preference ?
20:59.21nevcairielyes
20:59.30k1net1kwhat about ui stuff, like for designing xml layouts
20:59.38k1net1khand coded, or suing something else
20:59.43k1net1kusing *
20:59.52nevcairielusually hand coded, but most of us here avoid XML layouts
20:59.59k1net1ki see
20:59.59nevcairieland use pure Lua to design GUIs
21:00.15k1net1ksorry to ask all the noob questions.
21:00.18Fisker-nevcairiel my buddy
21:00.23k1net1kim coming from c# .net background
21:00.30k1net1knew to lua and wow addons
21:00.59k1net1kim sick of using 20 different mods to get the look i want, so i decided to make my own
21:01.07k1net1kbig project to take on ><
21:01.25AlphaCentaurai~wowapi
21:01.26purl(.*?) http://www.wowwiki.com/API_$1
21:01.37AlphaCentaurai~framexml
21:01.38purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/
21:01.42AlphaCentaurai~pil
21:01.43purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
21:01.54durcyn~wowprogramming
21:01.55purlWorld of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com
21:02.17AlphaCentaurai~fail
21:02.18purlfrom memory, fail is what happens to you when you follow gamespot's game advice.
21:02.31AlphaCentauraifails at everything
21:02.38k1net1k~tyvm
21:02.39purlwell, tyvm is thank you very much
21:03.07vhaarrXinhuan, rubik: thanks
21:03.19PrimerYou know, they really need to make class-only loot that can't be DE'd...only lootable by the class
21:03.28PrimerAnother VoA where my shit was mislooted
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21:03.33k1net1kamen to that
21:03.34Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5567 Ulduar/Mimiron.lua: Fix end trigger.
21:04.52k1net1kwell thankyou to all who have been making addons for me to use over the years, i now hope to contribute something back to the community
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21:10.34durcynyou should start by writing your own library, then using it to make a mount addon.
21:12.01Pneumatus:o
21:13.07k1net1kdurkyn : me ?
21:13.07Repo10dr-damage: 03Detseuqer 041.6.2b-1 * r817 : Tagging 1.6.2b-1 as a beta build.
21:13.44k1net1kdurcyn even
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21:15.47kadrahildurcyn: do you guys take a frostie DK for icy talons?
21:17.21Repo10bigswigs_razorscaleflames: 037destiny * r9 BigWigs_RazorScaleFlames.lua: add koKR
21:18.00Hjalteckknight: This is for you, my love http://paste.wowace.com/630/
21:18.26ckknightHjalte: I pushed a fix for that a little while ago
21:18.35ckknightalso, you may refer to me as master or sir.
21:18.45Hjalteckknight: Oh. Sorry, haven't reloaded my ui for a while
21:19.42AckisWorkckknight: tried out pitbull 4 last night... me likes it
21:20.15AckisWorkstill can't figure out where all the options are :P but it feels cleaner
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21:24.08durcynkadrahil: nah, enh shaman
21:24.17durcynkadrahil: our dps dks are usually blood anymore
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21:27.45Pneumatusam i werid for liking the blizzard frames?
21:27.51Pneumatusi think i must be in a minority
21:27.52Repo10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal * r73 LibQTip-1.0.lua: Added tipPrototype:GetTipSize()
21:28.00kadrahildurcyn: you should log onto stormreaver and convince my raid leaders that it isn't really necessary to enforce taking only one blood and one unholy dk to a raid anymore :<
21:28.32Pneumatusour dks change spec every week at the moment, they cant make their minds up
21:28.36durcynunholy?  that's what earth and moon is for
21:28.41kadrahillol
21:28.52kadrahildurcyn: they don't always have a shaman at the raid so that seems to be when i get to go :/
21:29.06Pneumatusi think the only dk we have thats kept the same spec is our tank, with unholy
21:29.22kadrahildurcyn: i have this screenshot of a recount i posted earlier in here, sec
21:29.42kadrahildurcyn: http://i41.tinypic.com/30tks4j.jpg -- idora is blood, dag is unholy, i was 17/51/3 frost
21:30.03kadrahilit felt very meh
21:30.20kadrahiland it's not a gear issue
21:30.28rubikFaildruid isn't much fail
21:30.39kadrahillol
21:30.44rubik:P
21:30.46Pneumatusis faildruid the feral?
21:30.49kadrahilyeah
21:31.06Pneumatusferal dps is sick when people know how to play kitty properly :<
21:31.08rubiktoo bad i usually have to tank that fight (10-man)
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21:31.19kadrahili'm convinced i could be doing 500-1k more in a raid as unholy
21:31.24kadrahiland be tying the other dk's easily
21:32.08rubikbut yeah, on quite a few fights, us kitties do some amazing dps.. then there's those couple where we can't attack from behind so can't Shred
21:32.51kadrahilPneumatus: i move taunt and grip away from keybinds so i don't accidentally mash them in a raid D:
21:33.26Pneumatuskadrahil needs more SimpleUnitFrames!
21:33.32kadrahil:<
21:34.37Pneumatusand you have a pally tank :o i thought they all got left in hyjal
21:34.45kadrahilyou mean naxx?
21:35.02kadrahilgara was one of the main tanks in sunwell too
21:35.33Pneumatusmaybe its just my guild/realm
21:35.39Pneumatusthey are a bit of a rarity round here
21:35.59Pneumatuswe never had a pally tank, used to have either an alt tank, or a holy respec prot for hyjal
21:36.20Pneumatusand havnt used one since
21:37.41Brunershttp://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5461/656cd0158599763a53157b3.jpg
21:38.12Pneumatusheh
21:38.25k1net1klol
21:40.45kadrahilBruners: haha
21:42.56Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn * r157 Heatsink.lua: bugfix
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21:45.50Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1802 Docs/Main.txt:
21:46.01RepoAckis transfered servers again... yes he did.  Server #6 is Thunderlord!!!
21:46.11Repo10mimironffa: 038tImER 07master * 39e78a5 test: [new, +1 commit] initializing repo
21:46.56Pneumatusdo you ever research the target realms ackis, or do you just play russian roulette with the dropdown, spinning your scroll wheel and going to wherever it lands? :P
21:47.19Repo10mimironffa: 038tImER 07master * 5fb53df test: [+1 commit] git in baby steps ;-)
21:47.46AckisWorkrussian roulette
21:47.48AckisWork:P
21:48.27AckisWorknah this one my gf used to play on and she has rl friends on it so we joined them
21:48.48Pneumatusyou never raided?
21:49.02AckisWorkhaomrash was a free transfer, azgalor was researched, illidan was researched, gurubashi was researched (and rolled on originally) and chormaggus was researched
21:49.06AckisWorkaye pre-wrath
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21:50.52Repo10heatsink: 03durcyn * r158 Heatsink.lua: revert candybar :Set(anchor) change
21:57.36KemayoArrowmaster: Mind if I steal InstanceMaps back from you and get it working with Wrath instances?
21:58.22Arrowmasterwhat were you going to do?
21:58.45Arrowmasteri was thinking about looking into it sometime soon
21:59.47KemayoI was planning on just putting notes in the appropriate spots on the instances with Blizzard-provided maps.
21:59.51AckisWorkis anyone on thunderlorn?
21:59.55Arrowmasteroh
22:00.11Arrowmasteri had kinda started working on changing around the notes system completely
22:00.30Arrowmasterto use a coord system like handynotes does instead of the old cartographer one
22:01.40Tristanianso as a result you would get notes in the Northrend instances, Arrow ?
22:02.02Arrowmasterdepends
22:02.07Pneumatuswouldnt it be easier to make a HandyNotes_Instances
22:02.14Tristanianwould be handy imo
22:02.15Arrowmasterprobably
22:02.22Tristanianor that yeah
22:02.35Arrowmasterexcept i dont know if handynotes can even support multiple dungeon levels
22:03.00Pneumatuswell, now you dont need to generate instance maps, its really just boss markers/notes on blizz maps isnt it
22:03.06Pneumatus+ loot
22:03.12Kemayo*sigh* The curse client is obsessively trying to install things on top of some working copies.
22:03.29ArrowmasterKemayo: theres an option you must have changed then
22:04.05KemayoArrowmaster: There's an "overwrite working copies" checkbox... which is unchecked.
22:04.30Arrowmasterand the directory has a .svn/.git/.hg dir in it?
22:04.38Pneumatusthe CC handling of working copies is complete fail anyway
22:04.44KemayoYup. It even shows up in the curse client with a "working copy" icon.
22:04.51nicoli_show so Pneumatus?
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22:05.10KemayoIt's just that every time I do "update all" it downloads the latest version, and then tells me that installing it failed because there's a working copy there.
22:05.14Pneumatusnicoli_s: if you use packager replacements it wont detect the working copy
22:05.21Pneumatusnicoli_s: Kaelten is aware
22:05.37Kaeltenyeah, going to get that fixed in the 4.0 client
22:05.40Arrowmasterhuh?
22:05.46Kaeltenuse the addon's metadata to id working copies
22:06.42Arrowmasterare you saying it cant identify what addon a working copy is?
22:07.14Kaeltencurrently, no, it can't under many circumstances
22:07.26Arrowmasterthats kinda to be expected
22:07.39KemayoActually, I suspect it's something to do with my having had these addons installed as non-working-copies, then uninstalling them through the client, then checking them out from the repo.
22:07.49Arrowmastersince whats in your working copy doesnt have to be on the server
22:08.13KemayoSo it might, somewhere in there, still think of them as something it's supposed to be updating.
22:08.36KemayoKaelten: Any chance of just making "ignore this" work on working copies?
22:08.59KaeltenKemayo: yeah, but my plan is to look at the path stored in the repo and
22:09.08Kaeltenknowing the repo url will let us match the majority of them
22:09.14Pneumatushmm, are there any HandyNodes modules that actually have a pre-defined database, or are they all generated on the fly?
22:09.34KemayoMy complaint here is that CC *knows* it's a working copy, and keeps trying to update it anyway.
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22:09.50KemayoPneumatus: HandyNotes_FlightMasters is entirely predefined.
22:10.17Pneumatusaha, so it is
22:10.32KaeltenKemayo: yeah, that's a bullshit implementation.
22:10.35Pneumatusso a HandyNotes_InstanceLoot or something wouldnt be entirely silly
22:10.37Kaeltenexpect multiple facets of improvement
22:10.42Kaeltengotta run guys
22:10.49KemayoKaelten: Shiny, thanks.
22:11.54KemayoPneumatus: That's pretty much what InstanceMaps is. There are two chunks to it -- one creates maps of instances from minimap textures on the fly, and the other is a list of notes to place on said maps.
22:12.20PneumatusKemayo, yeh, and the generating the maps isn't needed anymore anyway
22:12.24KemayoThe new instances just need the notes, yes.
22:12.41KemayoI'd say the maps need to stay around for the old instances. :P
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22:13.04Arrowmastertheres work being done on a new location system for some of the new map stuff
22:13.05Pneumatusoh, true
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22:13.52KemayoArrowmaster: I saw that -- they're just writing a more-minimal Astrolabe implementation, aren't they?
22:14.02Arrowmasterkinda
22:14.19Arrowmasterbut again, the new maps have multiple levels with different coords
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22:20.20KemayoArrowmaster: Well, if you want to work on it, I'll leave it up to you.
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22:52.21Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r227 / (12 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
22:52.24RepoRaidBuffStatus:
22:52.27Repo- Added an option to give a raid warning when someone places a Fish Feast or a Refreshment Table.
22:52.30Repo- Added Mana Spring as an alternative to Blessing of Wisdom.
22:52.33Repo- Flask of Fortification is no longer considered a good Flask now that Flask of Stoneblood has been buffed so much.
22:56.55miica_is there somekind lib for raid info?
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23:04.56pakozare there any alternatives to recount/recap?
23:04.58pakozgood*
23:05.19sztanpetskada is quite nice
23:05.29pakozchecking it out - and self plugs are welcome
23:05.50sztanpetwell thats the only alternative worth checking out seemingly
23:06.00sztanpeton wowace anyway
23:06.09Arrowmasterperoid
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23:10.07pakozwow, pretty neat at a glance
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23:13.46pakozi'm trying to configure skada to have two columns, can't seem to find the option
23:18.36Kemayomiica_: There used to be LibRoster. I don't know if it's kept updated, though.
23:18.44Arrowmasterits not
23:18.46Arrowmasterit was killed
23:18.51Arrowmasterbecause it sucked and was useless
23:19.39miica_Kemayo: oh
23:19.45miica_Kemayo: well i did like this http://pastebin.com/m44164052
23:20.01miica_Kemayo: but can you tell what is wrong with CHAT_MSG_RAID_LEADER event
23:20.17miica_Kemayo: it should class TP:CHAT_MSG_RAID if it is like that?
23:20.22miica_call*
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23:29.21HjalteFallout 3 is crashing for me. It did it when I first tried it several months ago and now again with the latest patch. Can't they program games or what?
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23:29.46HjaltePlaying on windows 7 :>
23:31.12Brunersi would bet the problems is with windows 7:P
23:31.21pentium166Or Bethesda's games in general
23:31.51Arrowmasterbethesda games are fine
23:32.15pentium166I don't really agree, but I have hardware to install
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23:34.51Repo10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar * r133 / (8 files in 2 directories): FBagOfHolding:
23:34.54Repo- Added several classes to start the process of updating code in FItemDB.lua.
23:35.19PrimerIs there something more concise that can be used in a macro instead of:
23:35.22Primer/script UIErrorsFrame:RegisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE")
23:35.24Primer?
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23:35.36Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r5568-release * r5568 : Tagging as r5568-release
23:35.55vhaarrPrimer: no
23:36.10Primerfor the purposes of suppressing messages when a trinket is on CD
23:36.29pakozholy shit, skada is so awesome
23:36.33pakozi heart it
23:36.37vhaarrthere are addons that quiet the error frame with a slash command and stuff
23:36.40pakozkudos to whoever was involved
23:36.40vhaarror you could just get errormonster
23:36.45pakozis*
23:36.52Primervhaarr: ok, thanks
23:37.05vhaarrmiica_: don't register events in OnInitialized, it's only called once, not when your addon is disabled and reenabled
23:37.12vhaarrregister events in OnEnable
23:37.51vhaarrmiica_: but no, that should not call CHAT_MSG_RAID for RAID_LEADER
23:38.03vhaarrTP:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_RAID_LEADER", "CHAT_MSG_RAID") would be correct
23:38.57vhaarrstop using the argX globals and use arguments instead, like TP:CHAT_MSG_RAID(msg, author)
23:39.40miica_vhaarr: ok
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23:40.10vhaarrif msg:lower():find("panos") then ..
23:40.20vhaarrfor i = 1, totalOnline do
23:40.24vhaarrlocal name, rank, ...
23:44.31miica_vhaarr: but that register event dont give those arguments? :/
23:44.44miica_this TP:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_RAID_LEADER", "CHAT_MSG_RAID")
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23:46.08miica_vhaarr: because i want use same functio for both events
23:46.25WobinSo, why use Skada instead of Recount?
23:48.41pakozease of use, layout, memory
23:49.04pakoztruly intelligent design
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23:52.49Wobinbut what of the reports of the differing results than the other damage meters?
23:56.35pakoznot sure wobin - just got it
23:57.01thulok, what am I supposed to do against mages as a DK? :-P
23:57.33VonhintenWTB someone to fix the busted ass Fader module in SexyMap pls
23:57.45Wobinthul: hit them til they fall down?
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23:59.56thulWobin: while they freeze me

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