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00:28.00Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5545 Core.lua: koKR Update
00:39.59Repo10project-13755: 03Xit_Draka * r32 / (2 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
00:40.02RepoDarkness:
00:40.05Repo--
00:40.08Repo+  Added toggle option for checking Shadow Weaving before allowing Shadow Word Pain to be cast
00:40.11Repo+  Added Devouring Plague
00:40.17durcynho, us first algalon
00:41.42Stanzilla10m or 25?
00:42.04durcyn10
00:42.29Zyndromeat least a stab at him
00:42.41Zyndrome1 hour rape per week, he's a busy man
00:42.44Stanzillawhich guild?
00:43.25durcynStanzilla: mine
00:43.32Stanzillau hax
00:43.37Repo10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r197 YurrCombatLog.lua: YurrCombatLog:
00:43.40Repo- finished code optimization
00:43.48durcynalgalon hard mode is annoying as hell
00:44.20durcyner
00:44.21durcynmimiron
00:44.38fewynwhat's your guild durcyn =p
00:45.08StanzillaMight :p
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00:53.22HjalteWhen I add the browser search plugin for the eu-armory, it gives me the search for us-armory >.<
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01:17.42vhaarrdurcyn: what do you mean "us first", some eu guild killed him?
01:18.12durcynvhaarr: no one else in the us has gotten to him yet, something like 6 eu guilds have
01:18.16durcynno one's killed him, though
01:18.19TorhalGah
01:18.23vhaarrah, well, that's what I thought you meant
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01:24.51Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r230 non-dailies.lua: -fix title for RRQ listing.
01:25.07RepoSplicing phrases togeather works in english, but not many others.
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01:58.50Repo10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r167 / (3 files in 1 directory): Updated TOC to fix "out of date" issue
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03:18.14Repo11/05/09 1.01
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03:42.30Stanzilla~wowalert
03:42.31purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
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04:38.47Fisker-fufufufufu Antiarc :E
04:39.37ckknightffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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04:40.37Fisker-fuck yeah
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04:48.27Wobinckknight: I take it the CC devs have seen the cracked CC?
04:51.11Fisker-showed them earlier
04:51.16Fisker-because i'm cruise control for awesome
04:51.45Fisker-About time i get something from that fucking fishing daily
04:58.27Repo10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r198 YurrCombatLog.lua: YurrCombatLog:
04:58.30Repo- simplify and optimize a bit
05:03.37ckknightWobin: talk to Kaelten about CC stuff
05:03.56KaeltenWobin: yeah we have
05:05.38Kaeltenyou know reading this core data docs
05:05.42Kaeltenthey say it's not a db layer
05:06.34Kaeltenthat fore most it's a object hiearchy.... but all their optimization docs reads like a howto for optimizing sql tables....
05:09.45Repo10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r199 YurrCombatLog.lua: YurrCombatLog:
05:09.48Repo- removed old code, moar tweaking
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05:14.09Fisker-lol fail
05:14.25Fisker-a resto druid, balance druid, mage and death knight ambushed me and a priest
05:14.30Fisker-we won
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06:58.15Repo10fishermans-friend: 03Ammo * r81 FishermansFriend.lua:
06:58.18Repoinstead of keeping a list of fishing rods, we use IsUsableSpell to detect if we can fish after an inventory change
06:59.43Fisker-wasteful!
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07:49.30Repo10dr-damage: 03Detseuqer * r803 / (3 files in 2 directories): DrDamage:
07:49.33Repo-Checked an initial stab at a debug slash command, but it's commented out since it doesn't work yet.  Also tweaked Empowered Renew yet again.  Can't find the part of the math that isn't working right.
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08:29.56BrunersKaelten: was there a keylogger embedded or not?
08:30.28Elkanoembedded into what?
08:30.36Brunerscracked curse client
08:31.18Repo10libitembonus-2-0: 03jerry * r78 LibItemBonus-2.0/locales (4 files in 1 directory):
08:31.20RepoAdd some missing patterns and remove some old ones as reported by
08:31.23RepoXinhuan.
08:34.33Megalonswine flu it was
08:34.48sb|workswine flu curse client?
08:35.50Megalonswine flu client curse?
08:39.58sb|workohh
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08:42.27Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r231 core.lua: add ldb feed for when dailies reset..
08:42.38orionshocki now seriously have a new kind of hate for LDB
08:43.26sb|workuhm... why?
08:43.43orionshockthe lack of consistent implementation
08:44.38Wobinin what sense?
08:45.36orionshocktext vs ( label..value vs lable:format(value) )
08:46.21Zeksieslaps Fisker- around a bit with a large trout
08:48.06orionshocknot like implementing all 3 is hard or anything
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08:51.42orionshocki winded up implementing both text and label..value
08:51.45orionshockf'ed up IMO
08:52.23[Ammo]blame the display addon authors not reading the spec
08:52.37FryGuy-it seems like LDB is a solution in search of a problem
08:52.56[Ammo]no
08:53.00orionshock[Ammo]: this is slightly true.
08:53.05[Ammo]it's completely true
08:53.25Wobinthis ^
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08:54.03orionshockFryGuy-: LDB is a mixed blessing, on one hand it fixed the zelot attachment to fubar/titan & at the same time creates problems that fubar/titan didn't have at all because they where hard stuck in their ways.
08:54.21[Ammo]orionshock: it does not create problems
08:54.26[Ammo]you're seeing problems
08:54.50orionshockbut they really arn't there?
08:54.54[Ammo]indeed
08:55.04orionshocksorry, i call BS
08:55.05Wobinhands orionshock some eyedrops
08:55.18Adirelle|workBS = ?
08:55.23[Ammo]bullshit
08:55.23Wobinbullshit
08:55.28Adirelle|workthanks
08:55.28orionshock^^
08:55.42[Ammo]name a problem that comes from LDB
08:55.42FryGuy-well, I'm using chocolatebar, and a bunch of LDB addons
08:55.51[Ammo]and is not caused by a retarded display
08:55.55[Ammo]there are none
08:55.58FryGuy-a lot of them don't behave properly
08:56.09FryGuy-i'm not saying it's a LDB problem per se, but an atari 2600 problem
08:56.12Wobinby 'properly' you mean?
08:56.24FryGuy-like, no tooltip
08:56.28orionshock[Ammo]:  text vs ( label..value vs lable:format(value) )   <--- That problem
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08:56.45FryGuy-and the addons are subpar compared to the fubar ones
08:56.53[Ammo]all not caused by LDB
08:56.57WobinThat's... not an LDB problem
08:57.01Wobinthat's an addon problem
08:57.10FryGuy-hence why i said an atari 2600 problem
08:57.23[Ammo]orionshock: label is used for launchers, text for the rest
08:57.39[Ammo]yours is a regular one, not a launcher -> use text
08:57.45[Ammo]read the damn spec :p
08:58.04orionshocktechnically you can say that, but the problem is that the LDB spec isn't enforced on either end for any of it. There try that problem. if you feed me the line of bs about it being an open spec, im just gonna stop there.
08:58.33FryGuy-and things like, right click menus don't open options
08:58.47Wobinagain... not an LDB issue
08:59.02FryGuy-it ought to be
08:59.10Wobinwell no
08:59.17Wobinthat's an addon responsibility
08:59.25WobinLDB passes the click through to the addon just fine
08:59.32Wobinit's a data display module
08:59.48Wobinit shouldn't have the responsiiblity to have to deal with options
09:00.57Wobinthe LDB is the View in the MVC
09:01.19Adirelle|worker no, LDB is the model
09:01.23Adirelle|workthe addon display is the view
09:01.25FryGuy-from a practical user standpoint, right now using LDB is completely incosistent and 'worse' and using fubar and all of the associated addons
09:01.31Wobiner yeah
09:01.35Wobinthe controller is the addon
09:01.40FryGuy-that is the extent of my statement
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09:03.11Wobinperhaps a more accurate statement would be "Right now, using ChocolateBar is completely inconsistant and 'worse' than fubar because authors don't know how to follow a spec"?
09:03.25FryGuy-i'm not trying to assign blame
09:03.36WobinSure you are =P You're blaming LDB
09:03.41FryGuy-you don't need to get defensive
09:03.46orionshockFryGuy-: no need, it's quite clear who is to blame :)
09:03.52Wobinblames Canada
09:04.36FryGuy-addon configuration is completely incosistent, in general
09:04.51[Ammo]not much you can do to fix that
09:04.54WobinI mean, functionality, tooltips, text, these are all available and work as advertised. If the authors do not take advantage of this, it's the addon's fault, not the display modules fault
09:05.41WobinChocolateBar, for example can only display what it's given. If it's not given a tooltip to display, then it's certainly not at fault.
09:05.59FryGuy-hence why i said an atari 2600 problem
09:06.12TorhalI think the "text" field should have been named "data". Less confusion between that and "label".
09:06.24FryGuy-it had shitty games, so people thought the atari was shitty
09:06.26TorhalA lot of authors think text == label
09:06.32[Ammo]again, read the spec
09:06.49FryGuy-that's not a blanket statement
09:07.42FryGuy-I had an API I had to work with where to deactive an account, you called a url of the form /admin?user=fryguy&active=1
09:07.46FryGuy-to deactivate the user
09:08.06FryGuy-reading the spec would have told me that was wrong, but it's not intuitive
09:08.47FryGuy-purely devils advocate here
09:09.12FryGuy-the idea of LDB is great
09:09.23FryGuy-I completely understand it
09:09.50TorhalI just think a bunch of folks go in half-cocked when writing their first plugin...hence people fucking up and using text when they should be using label. It's definitely a "read the spec" situation.
09:09.51FryGuy-but it's kind of like the saying "In theory, practice and theory are the same. In practice, it's not"
09:10.47FryGuy-Things like this don't help, either: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/broker_autoloot.aspx
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09:10.58FryGuy-i mean, what does that addon do, and why do you have to configure it with the commandline
09:11.07TorhalI haven't yet seen a situation where people use label where they should be using text, so my "data" comment stands.
09:11.49Wobinrofl
09:11.58Wobinthat... I really don't quite see why he even wrote a broker module =P
09:12.19Wobinunless it lists the stuff looted or something
09:12.24Torhal...
09:12.27FryGuy-well, it "turns off autoloot when you join a group"
09:12.37Torhal...when you click on it.
09:12.47TorhalAs opposed to using the fucking shift key
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09:13.39Wobinbut... why write a broker object for an addon with no display requirements?
09:13.55[Ammo]that's just silly indeed
09:13.59Wobinoh wait
09:14.11Wobinno he has "Autoloot: On" and "Autoloot: Off"
09:14.17Wobinin the broker
09:14.25FryGuy-but clicking it does nothing?
09:14.31orionshockwell in one means, label is used a prefix for data feeds and also provide a value so it turns out as [[ label..value ]] or [[ label:format(value) ]] but in the launcher spec label is a static value used only to display, there is no updating.
09:14.35Wobinit actually does
09:14.48Wobinit toggles the autoloot
09:14.55Wobin(according to the code anyway)
09:15.00FryGuy-well his comment is silly then
09:15.01orionshock@Torhal ^^
09:15.15BrunersWobin: a launcher to open the config?
09:15.22WobinBruners: not in this case
09:15.32Wobinwhat Autoloot?
09:15.35FryGuy-if autoloot is on, then right clicking on a loot does what normally shift-right click does?
09:15.42Torhalorionshock: Yah, but it seems people glance at the spec and see the text field and say "Oh, that's what I need" and completely ignore label
09:15.46WobinFryGuy-: yes
09:15.54FryGuy-what a silly addon
09:16.03Wobinit's good for fishing
09:16.14Wobinwell, the whole autoloot concept
09:16.14Wobinor grinding
09:16.23Wobinbut not good in groups
09:16.34orionshockTorhal: and it dosn't help when the display treats lable,text & value as the same thing, and only shows 1 thing
09:16.44Torhalorionshock: Indeed.
09:16.52FryGuy-dunno, i pretty much always shift-click loot
09:16.53TorhalThough it's mostly the plugin authors who need shot.
09:16.55FryGuy-even in groups
09:16.58TorhalDisplays have been pretty good so far
09:17.08Fisker-what are you going to do?
09:18.09Brunersso what are the differences between label, text and value ?
09:18.24Brunerslabel being the name, text being text data and value being numberS?
09:18.42TorhalBruners: Label is the "label" for the plugin. Text is the "data", and Value is auxilliary to text
09:19.00orionshockBruners:  it's   text or (label..value or label:format(value) )
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09:19.56Adirelle|workorionshock: not sure, depending on the addon if it text or value..suffix or label or whatever
09:19.58TorhalSometimes value is used as a suffix. The text may be "23" and the value could be "FPS"
09:20.21orionshockit could also be expressed as  [[ text or (lable..value or label:format(value) or label:format( unpack(value) ) ) ]]
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09:20.34Adirelle|workaccording to the spec, text == value.." "..suffix
09:20.43Adirelle|work(when value is not nil)
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09:21.14TorhalAll I ever care about (so far) is label and text. That's all that's needed in most cases.
09:21.31Adirelle|workwhat is unclear is what happens when text is actually diffeent from value.." "..suffix
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09:21.50orionshockAdirelle|work: one should never use both
09:22.10TorhalShouldn't...but there is no "cannot"
09:22.18TorhalSo it's up to the display.
09:22.19Adirelle|workorionshock: I didn't in Dynperf, but I was forced to define value to a text because some addon did not display text where there was no value
09:22.53Torhaltwitches.
09:22.55Adirelle|worke.g. when I have a FPS to display, I do text,value,suffix = nil,fps,"FPS"
09:23.11orionshocktext is regarded as a "simple" display string.
09:23.15Adirelle|worksometimes Dynperf is disabled, so I had text,value,suffix="Disabled",nil,nil
09:23.43Adirelle|workbut someone complained anything was displayed in some display addon
09:23.56Adirelle|workso I changed to text,value,suffix="Disabled","Disabled",nil
09:24.17orionshockwhere as label is only "simple" in launchers; but in datafeeds it's a "prefix" of sorts to either be formatted agenst the value or concatenated with label and suffix
09:24.19Adirelle|work(btw, it actually was : text,value,suffix = fps.." FPS", fps, "FPS")
09:24.38Adirelle|workthere is clearly some unclear cases in the spec pertaining to text,value and suffix use
09:24.42Adirelle|worknot speaking of label
09:25.12orionshockunclear to the authors, but it is quite clear and very obvious how each should be used.
09:25.21Adirelle|workIIRC the value/suffix breakdown is to allow some displays to color the unit differently from the number
09:25.52orionshockhell, b/c of this seriously backasswardness im half tempted to re-implement ldb with more of a hardcoded spec.
09:26.52Adirelle|workactually adding tidyness to LDB could be sufficent
09:26.57orionshockAdirelle|work: coloring should always be in the care of the provider, not the display; unless the display wants a hard override
09:27.10Adirelle|workorionshock: I'm agree with that
09:27.20Adirelle|worknonetheless that shit was added to LDB for this reason
09:27.22orionshockbut a hard override shouldn't be expected
09:29.37FryGuy-how would a gold addon work with the text/value/suffix/label thing?
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09:30.10FryGuy-to display like "123 (gold icon) 45 (silver icon) 67 (copper icon)
09:30.12Adirelle|workbeing quite open, LDB leads to diversity in various of case, like how to display the tooltip
09:30.38TorhalFryGuy-: string.format with texture escapes, methinks
09:30.58[Ammo]if LDBObj then LDBObj.text = MoneyString(money) end
09:31.01[Ammo]is what I do in MOneyTrail
09:31.03orionshockFryGuy-: with a .text
09:31.03Adirelle|workbut from an user point of view, this also means look inconsistency, because different provider authors have made different choices
09:31.25FryGuy-dunno, it seems like value, suffix, and label are redundant
09:31.34[Ammo]label = launchers
09:31.35FryGuy-with text
09:31.45Adirelle|workIMO value and suffix are redondant with text
09:31.55FryGuy-then why is label in the "data source" section?
09:32.05[Ammo]optional, not required
09:32.06orionshockAdirelle|work: does libQTip have an :AddLine( [[ std blizzard options ]] ) functionality?
09:32.24FryGuy-but does it do anything?
09:32.36[Ammo]depends on the display
09:32.52Adirelle|workorionshock: not really
09:33.12orionshockAdirelle|work: in my head, if you use value & suffix, then you must use label. even if it's just ""
09:33.44Adirelle|worklabel seems to be an user-friendly version of name
09:34.15Adirelle|workwhy may or may not displayed directly (for sources), but could be used in configuraton
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09:36.09orionshockAdirelle|work: label make sense for launchers as that is what it's primarily used for; however, for things like the one i added to socd, "Time Till Reset". Initally i don't know what this icon and time mean, so i have a label. But after a while i'll want to turn it off, because i know the relationship now
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09:41.21Adirelle|workorionshock: read http://wiki.github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/data-specifications again
09:42.03Adirelle|worknevermind
09:42.05orionshocki've read it all ways
09:42.22Adirelle|worknotice it changes quite often
09:42.33orionshockstatblock i believe allows for label:format(value)..suffix as well as label..value..suffix
09:43.11orionshock^^ is as it should be, as that's how label/prefix - root - suffix works just about every where else IRL
09:43.32Adirelle|worklabel:format(value) is just evil
09:44.17Adirelle|workit is fully undocumented, I won't rely on this to happen
09:44.17orionshocklable = "%.2f FPS" ; value = ?GetFPS()
09:44.35Adirelle|workI did not say it is useless, I just say it is undocumented
09:44.36orionshocknot like it's hard to implement
09:44.55Adirelle|workany provided relying on this will just display plain shit with any other display
09:45.50Adirelle|works/provider/provider/
09:46.02Adirelle|workgah, you got it anyway
09:47.45orionshocklike i said, im half tempted to rewirte ldb with a more hardecoded spec. it will still be quite flexible, but simply consistent
09:49.16Adirelle|workthe question is : how would you convince people to use this new implementation ?
09:49.47orionshockpeople like consistency, and reliable results.
09:50.41orionshockthe only reason we moved away from fubar/titan is because fubarplugin was a whore that wouldn't go away :)
09:50.42Adirelle|work^^
09:50.56Adirelle|workI did the same
09:51.08Adirelle|workplus both were dependent on librock
09:51.10orionshockand last time i checked titanpanel making a plugin was a bitch to manage
09:51.50Adirelle|workiirc titanpanel now acts as a ldb display now
09:52.01orionshockit does
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09:53.04orionshocki'd like to take a irrelevant credit in that, i emailed the author about what we now call LDB back when that thread first started talking about how we all hate fubar
09:53.06orionshock:)
09:54.00Adirelle|workhrm... what about writing a reference LDB checker that tells you what's wrong with your providers and link it in the LDB spec page ?
09:54.19orionshocka Verification tool?
09:54.20Adirelle|works/checker/validator/
09:54.29Adirelle|workyep
09:55.12orionshocki can see tek having a kiniption fit or simply black-wall ignore it.
09:55.39Adirelle|work~tr en fr kiniption
09:55.52Adirelle|workpurl, are you with us ?
09:56.14orionshockkiniption fit : an adult temper tantrum
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09:57.16Adirelle|workyes, that's an issue ^^
09:57.43orionshockand like wise, not sure i care...
09:59.34Adirelle|workabout what ? tekkub or the validator ? ^^
09:59.40Cheadshmm anyone know of a decent place to level up weapon skill?
10:00.14orionshocktek
10:00.23orionshockCheads in raids tbh
10:00.36orionshocknax trash works the best :)
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10:04.39orionshockactually i have a better idea, instead of a validator too, make an LDB builder, one that gives you your copy and paste block to put into your addon :)
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10:16.26jnwhitehorionshock: Adirelle|work: Whats the concern with the data source spec?
10:16.35jnwhitehi.e. what's the problem, or what's lacking?
10:17.15orionshockjnwhiteh: consistency and continuity is what it came down to. It's nice that it's open, but it is too open.
10:17.25jnwhitehBut how so?
10:17.50jnwhitehI don't see any issues or ambiguity in the data source spec, so I'm interested in any issues you are having
10:18.13orionshock[[ text vs (  label..value..(?suffix) vs label:format(value)..(?suffix) ]] for starters
10:18.25jnwhitehtext is ALWAYS meant to be used in a data source spec
10:18.34jnwhitehthe other members are there for other purposes
10:18.38orionshockjnwhiteh: it's not the spec, it's the shear fact that LDB has no enforcement of the established specs
10:18.54jnwhitehI don't think that should be built into LDB
10:19.16jnwhitehno one should be using label .. value .. (?suffix) or any of those
10:19.20jnwhitehif they do, they do it on their own
10:19.23jnwhitehits not for the display addon to do
10:19.26orionshockim all for open and such, but even linux has specs and they are adhered to
10:19.54jnwhitehbut what is the tangible issue?
10:20.01jnwhitehother than a issue of principles
10:20.25orionshockno that is the problem
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10:21.00jnwhitehwell, feel free to write your own specification and give code for display addons to validate feeds then
10:21.05jnwhitehI'm totally cool with that
10:21.12jnwhitehbut the data source spec is fine as is (imo)
10:21.19jnwhitehas long as people supply the required fields, it works great
10:21.25Brunersas long as the shit works i don't see the problem
10:21.36orionshockyes the spec is fine, but only like 15% of the people using ldb actually follow it
10:21.52orionshock*correctly
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10:22.11jnwhitehbut there's no good solution for that
10:22.15jnwhitehit can't and shouldn't go into LDB
10:22.30jnwhitehso as I said, write a validator for the spec and make display authors aware of it
10:22.35orionshockthere is, but it's the same reason that we made LDB, we didn't like the solution
10:22.48jnwhitehI'd welcome that
10:22.52jnwhitehI'm not following..
10:23.01orionshockgrr... i need another smoke if im going to go back into this...
10:23.06jnwhitehyou lost me on that last bit
10:23.11jnwhitehyou shouldn't be getting worked up =/
10:23.12jnwhitehi'm sorry I'll stop
10:23.25jnwhitehi'm just a stakeholder here and I'm trying to figure out what is being proposed.
10:23.27jnwhitehO.o
10:24.21Brunersorionshock: http://amnith.pastey.net/113993 <- this "correct" or wrong?
10:24.39orionshocksimplification of LDB is that "we" didn't like fubar / titan b/c adding support was a bitch. so we made LDB and made it to where source and display where seperated. Great, lots of options. However, no forced standard, no consistancy in the use.
10:25.00jnwhitehactually, that's not entirely accurate.. but that's fine
10:25.15orionshockfubar and titan where liked for those reasons. They where consistent and performed in a predictable maner
10:25.20orionshockLDB dosn't
10:25.21Pneumatusaddmin support was easy, the issue was that the displays were fixed
10:25.26Pneumatus*adding
10:25.57orionshockthat's my issue
10:26.12jnwhitehwell i don't think it should
10:26.16jnwhitehso I guess that's fine
10:26.29jnwhitehi would love to see code to validate a feed of a given spec
10:26.31jnwhitehbut that shouldn't go in LDB
10:26.33jnwhitehplain and simple
10:26.41jnwhitehso it would have to go in the display addons
10:26.45jnwhitehwhich is what I already proposed
10:26.50jnwhitehand I'm very happy to have that
10:26.51Pneumatusyou can only validate for a specific display
10:27.03jnwhitehcorrect
10:27.03orionshockjnwhiteh: right, it shouldn't be in LDB proper because what's the point in validating a feed each time the game is loaded; that's an author problem not an EU problem
10:27.18jnwhitehso lets write a stringent spec
10:27.21jnwhitehand write a display validator for it
10:27.23jnwhitehand we all win
10:27.24jnwhitehhurray!
10:27.37jnwhitehBruners: I don't see any issues with that, other than you don't need "value"
10:27.59orionshocknot a stringent spec, but one that is consistent, and predictable.
10:28.09vhaarrhas anyone tried the Launch Passenger ability from the salvaged demolishers at flame leviathan?
10:28.19jnwhitehorionshock: same difference, in my opinion
10:28.26orionshocklol
10:28.28jnwhitehbut I don't see that spec being ultimately different from data source
10:28.36jnwhitehthere will be changes
10:28.39jnwhitehand I think that's fine!
10:28.42Pneumatusdisplays just need to implement the "required" fields in the spec and then whatever else they feel like, if you were to validate any of the other fields you would do so against what a certain display is using
10:28.47Pneumatusvhaarr: yes
10:28.54jnwhitehPneumatus: the problem is people don't include the required fields
10:28.58jnwhitehwhich is a problem
10:29.28vhaarrPneumatus: does it launch the passenger onto the leviathan, or do you need to target with it?
10:29.36Pneumatuswell, if no display uses the required fields ever, then it seems pointless them being required
10:29.53orionshockPneumatus: yes, but statistics infer that strange methods are rare. that common ideas will all follow the same general pattern regardless who does it.
10:29.56Pneumatusvhaarr: you have to target it on to his body, like all the rest of the abilties
10:29.58jnwhitehPneumatus: some addons don't include a "text" field on a data source
10:30.05jnwhitehthis is specifically the problem that I have
10:30.06vhaarrPneumatus: right, so you can miss
10:30.12jnwhitehmany also do not include type
10:30.14jnwhitehthis is a problem
10:30.14Pneumatusvhaarr: yes, you can :)
10:30.23jnwhitehconsidering those are the only two required fields
10:30.43vhaarrPneumatus: is it best to allow him to do a full flame vent cast and use that time to throw people on? I'm trying to iron out some strategy tips for when we are doing his hardmode
10:31.05vhaarror is it very easy to hit
10:31.06Pneumatusvhaarr: there's a bit of leniance with the place the target lands, as you get some grappling hook thing that pulls them to the correct landing spot, but if you target miles off the passenger wil just get thrown to that location
10:31.18jnwhiteh_no feed_ should be expecting a display addon to use value, and suffix
10:31.40Pneumatuswe've only done 2 towers, but we always cancel flame vents and just throw people up as soon as they get back in their demolishers after the last shutdown
10:32.03vhaarrPneumatus: alright thanks
10:32.16vhaarrPneumatus: do you throw a healer up or ranged/melee?
10:32.19vhaarrI was thinking 1 healer + ranged dps
10:32.21Pneumatusnever melee
10:32.27Pneumatus1 healer 2/3 casters
10:32.31vhaarrcool
10:32.55Pneumatusthe more people you send up though, the less pyerite barrels the demolishers can fire
10:33.16Pneumatusas they dont have the top seat passenger to hook in new pyerite when they use it up
10:33.57vhaarrhow often do you need to reload that pyrite?
10:34.02Brunersjnwhiteh: why not suffix?
10:34.47Pneumatusvhaarr: the demolisher has 100 pyerite at the start, and each cast of the "pyerite barrel" ability uses something like 10, so ideally you want to spam pyerite after a shutdown, then refill with 2 barrels in the kiting phase
10:35.02Pneumatuseach barrel gives 50 pyerite
10:35.05Megalon50, 5 per barrel, 25 refill
10:35.05vhaarrah cool
10:35.37Megalonbut quite the same
10:35.52Pneumatusah, might be that then, i think i probably read in percent
10:35.56Megalonand siege tank gunners should try to take down some barrels
10:36.27Pneumatusyeh, as you're likely to only have 1 demolisher passenger in their vehicle 100% of the time
10:36.31Megalonso that the guys in demolisher just hop in, reload and fired back on leviathan as quickly as possible
10:37.08Megalonand if you don't do 4 towers, you can have one demolisher seated 100%
10:37.26Megalondon't know if that also works out on 4 towers, but I don't think so
10:37.37Pneumatusone alternative idea is to use less than the full amount of motorbikes, and swap alternative passengers into the demolisher seats once people have been thrown up
10:38.18Pneumatusso you start the fight with a couple of passengers in the motorbikes ready to switch into demolisher seats once the first guys get thrown up
10:39.14Megalonand just throw all shadowpriests
10:39.41Pneumatusyeh if you can throw a shadowpriest up, and put the other casters in his group you dont need a healer
10:40.20Pneumatuson 2 towers at least the damage up top wasnt too bad, VE could probably heal trhough it
10:41.22sb|workis it possible to cause multiple shutdowns?
10:43.17Pneumatusthe motorbikes can heal the people up top as well once they get picked up
10:43.32Pneumatussb|work: yeh, just throw people back up after the first one and repeat
10:46.08Pneumatusjnwhiteh: imo, a feed should be expecting EITHER text, or value+suffix to be displayed, and not expect the latter
10:46.20Pneumatusthats how the spec reads, anyway
10:46.47Pneumatusand if value exists, so should suffix
10:47.13Pneumatuser, if value is displayed, so should suffix be
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10:47.44sb|workso you can start throwing up right at the beginning at the fight
10:47.48sb|workto maximize dps
10:47.52sb|workbecause of shutdown phases
10:47.59Pneumatusyup
10:48.02sb|workahhhh
10:48.05sb|workokay :p
10:50.01Megalonshutdown also resets his speedbuff, which is why you really have to do it
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10:50.36sb|workyes
10:50.41Megalonand the stun gives everyone a little breath time
10:50.46sb|workwe only did 1 throw at 8 stacks
10:50.53sb|workbecause it works for 1 tower
10:50.54Pneumatus+ more dps on him due to his debuff
10:51.02sb|workbut not possible with 2 or more  :o
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10:53.34Mytosdoes anyone know of a mod to ignore npc spam from guys like arcanist braedin other than getoffmylawn?
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10:55.01orionshockMytos: sure, turn off npc say and yell in your chatframe options :)
10:57.23Mytosi dont want that
10:57.54Mytosi want to be able to see when certain bosses yell things, i just wanna ignore the retarded wintergrasp spam
10:58.57Pneumatustheres an addon on cf that lets you suppress certain npcs yells
10:59.06Pneumatuscant remember its name though :<
10:59.20Wobinoh I had a script.
10:59.35Mytosgetoffmylawn, but the last i checked it hasnt been updated in a while, and since 3.1 is throwing alot of errors
10:59.45Mytosit throws an error everytime it blocks something
11:00.04Wobinuse  ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter
11:00.10Wobinwith Hack =)
11:00.36Pneumatushttp://www.wowace.com/projects/plunk/
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11:22.00Repo10healinc: 03DathRarhek * r8 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Remove LibQuickHealth-2.0
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11:22.56mitch0how far can a mage+pala combo go with oldish dungeons?
11:24.16SunTsumitch0: Depends on what kind of dungeon you mean. BC heroics? Shouldn't be a problem, I think. BT? SWP? Well ;)
11:24.31mitch0MC?
11:24.42mitch0or that other one is silithus?
11:24.51mitch0whatsitsname
11:25.00SunTsumitch0: aq20? aq40?
11:25.05mitch0yeah, aq
11:25.18Pneumatusaq40 still needs like 5 people or so to do twins sensibly
11:25.26SunTsuthat still could give you a little bit of trouble, whough
11:25.42mitch0also, would a mage+DK pair be better?
11:26.01SunTsuI remember so-called fun raids on aq40 of 40 players of lvl 70, who had wiping at the first boss all day
11:26.04Pneumatusand BWL needs cloaks
11:26.40PneumatusMC and kara are both doable for 2/3 man teams
11:27.18winkillerSunTsu: wtf?
11:27.19mitch0might return to wow then for some fun with the old stuff ;)
11:27.41winkillerI mean.. we struggled on twins at 70 when we were only 20 who never had done the fight.. but up to there it was a walk
11:27.55mitch0too bad our country is not eligible for the scroll of resurrect thing...
11:28.08SunTsuwinkiller: Yeah, that's exactly what I said. It was mostly me mind controlled who killed half of the raid ;)
11:28.25winkillerlol
11:28.33mitch0suntsu: then you had _too many_ on your team :)
11:29.39mitch0so, mage+pala or mage+dk?
11:29.52mitch0(friend will start leveling either a pala or a dk)
11:29.57SunTsuSomehow the mages tried to sheep me as a bear or kitty and the warlocks/priests didn't make it fearing me, so I continued my rampage without being stopped
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11:30.32SunTsumitch0: Doesn't really matter, maybe paladin would be better, because he can heal the mage, DKs only can heal themselves
11:30.44Wobinunless they're bloodspec
11:30.47Wobinwith the glyph
11:30.53Wobinbut that's not really the point =)
11:30.59mitch0ok :)
11:31.13mitch0also, is the talent spec swap thing live yet? if so, how often can it be done?
11:31.26SunTsumitch0: as often as you like
11:31.35mitch0no CD?
11:31.44SunTsumitch0: the only thing is, you lose all your $energy while doing itz
11:31.46SunTsu-z
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11:32.04mitch0you don't even have to be at a class trainer or anything?
11:32.06Wobinunless you're a DK
11:32.09Wobinnope
11:32.12mitch0hm
11:32.25SunTsumitch0: no, but it is channeled and can't be done in combat
11:32.27Pneumatusthe only place you cant switch is in a BG/Arena i think
11:33.02mitch0that's nice
11:33.28SunTsuWobin: Yeah, but as a DK it wouldn't even matter, because you can get rune power that easily..
11:33.34Wobins'true
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12:04.18Repo- Rename another variable that got munged in a global replace at some point
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12:23.21zxwAnyone know why /print UnitDetailedThreatSituation("target", "targettarget") wont work?
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12:31.02zxwive got a suspician it only works if you are on the agro table. is that true?
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12:31.40Gnarfozyes
12:32.05Gnarfozat least from what I recall, you can indeed only get threat data for mobs whose threat table you're on
12:32.17zxwwell that clears things up a lot
12:32.21Gnarfoz(and Omen, as the prime example, behaves exactly that way, too)
12:32.32zxwyeh thats what gave me the hunch
12:32.43zxwspent way too long trying to isolate why that wasnt working
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12:38.42steevhmm
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12:44.41steevSo, I've got Titan's Outlook ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40428 ) and Spiked Titanstee Helm (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41386 ) - with the outlook, im at 296 hit rating, with the spiked, im at 302... i can't decide which to wear (as a death knight)
12:45.04steevof course, the advantages of the spiked are that I get a metagem and a blue gem
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12:56.45Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r186 .pkgmeta: Removed duplicate AceEvent in the pkgmeta file.
12:57.01Repo10libcandybar-3-0: 03Ammo * r15 / (2 files in 1 directory): experiment with docmeta drek
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13:01.54Brunerssteev: meta gem > *
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13:05.15steevBruners: yeah, thats what i figured
13:05.36steevtrying to clear out my inventory some
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13:51.00RepoDo not try to display the menu in combat (it will not work anyway).
13:51.00RepoDo not show duplicate entries.
13:51.00RepoBe more forgiving with names containing spaces or dashes.
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13:52.48sacarascsteev: Dual wielding?
13:53.07sacarascOr do you need to hit the spell hit cap?
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14:01.06Repo10proculas: 03Xocide 041.6.2 * r190 :
14:01.09RepoConfirmed to work with 1.6.2 and no longer shows up as out dated in World of Warcraft.
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14:11.55steevsacarasc: neither
14:12.04steevjust happen to have a ton of hit on my gear
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14:22.23Bruners10% for spellhit?
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14:28.06orionshockok, to add to an earlier rant & rave of mine. I finished a "draft" version of my LDB Validation / checker  thing-a-ma-jig.
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14:28.30Brunerspastey or it doesnt exist
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14:31.49Asser_Are there any special tricks I need to know when hooking on event using callbacks ?
14:32.18[Ammo]and now in normal english? :)
14:32.40Asser_hehe
14:32.57Asser_One sec then
14:33.15orionshockBruners: it's seriously to spec according to the single wiki page (as far as i can understand it) with some implied stupidity checks. http://paste.wowace.com/622/
14:33.48orionshockgranted i haven't pilfered though the various other pages like the explanations to glean more ideas..
14:36.12orionshockAdirelle|work: http://paste.wowace.com/622/ -- it's a start :)
14:36.21Asser_I'm trying to set a callback function on a frame, but it's not working. I'm using :SetCallback("OnSizeChanged", function(f,w,h) ... end) - But nothing's happening when im resizing the frame
14:36.53orionshockAsser_: this frame your doing :SetCallback() on, is it a standard frame?
14:37.02Asser_f = AceGUI:Create("Frame");
14:37.26orionshockya nevermind, never worked with AceGUI that closely...
14:41.25[Ammo]Asser_: I don't think they fire such a callback
14:41.47Asser_Hmm - perhaps i'm going about it the wrong way then
14:42.06Asser_In this frame, i've got another frame - whose width + height I want to adapt to the outer frame...
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14:42.24[Ammo]either setpoint it to the outer frame
14:42.42[Ammo]or use an acegui flow layout and SetFullWidth(true)
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14:43.28Asser_Thanks Ammo :)
14:43.38Adirelle|workorionshock: you can't iterate LDB members, you have to use the LDB:Iterate method
14:43.56orionshockhehe, that's what you think :)
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14:44.20orionshocki did the wrong thing there, that is i reached into the bowles of LDB and riped out the table object :)
14:44.28orionshocktho it should use the lib method
14:46.04Adirelle|workyeah, there is a public lib method to do so, so why mess with the private things ?
14:46.29Mytosanyone know of a good way to macro strangulate and mindfreeze together
14:46.39orionshockim about 3/4 asleep, and didn't think of it prolly
14:47.36SunTsuMytos: Aren't there macros on wowwiki for that?
14:48.17Mytosthe only one ive seen on wowwiki for that uses them both
14:48.48SunTsuMytos: And you want ... instead?
14:48.55thulI'm in an unholy period of DK-ing
14:49.06Mytossorry that came out wrong
14:49.17Mytosit uses them both at the same time, which i dont want
14:49.41SunTsuMytos: Then, when are you going to tell what it is you want?
14:49.57steevhe probably wants it to use mindfreeze if strangulate is on cd
14:50.15steevhowever there's no way to tell if an ability is on cd in a macro
14:50.20Mytosi want it to strangulate if possible, if not use mindfreeze, but not blow both at the same time if strang is off cooldown
14:50.47steevMytos: use 2 different keybindings (personally i use shift+1 for strang, and shift+2 for mf)
14:50.49orionshockMytos: use cast sequence and pray; that or bind them to different keys
14:50.52SunTsuMytos: Then use a modifier to use the other and watch your CDs
14:51.13steevalternately, l2p
14:51.21SunTsusomething like /cast [modifier] Mind..; [nomodifier] Strang..
14:52.49Mytossteev: how does me wanting a macro have any bearing on wether or not i can play and if i know how to? please, if your not gonna try to help keep it to yourself
14:52.51orionshocksteev be nice; sometimes the know enough how to play and are trying to figure out different ways of playing better. This just happens to be that often repeated dead question that everyone new asks..
14:53.26orionshock*thet
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14:56.02Asser_Can't seem to find this, perhaps someone here knows: Is there a way to set minimum width on a frame ?
14:56.21SunTsuMytos: I think steev was hinting at "watch your CDs and use manually what you can in that situation"
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15:08.56Repo- zhCN/zhTW update.
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15:45.09Repo10castdonut: 03Ammo 04r4-release * r5 : Tagging as r4-release
15:45.43mojosdojo@describe castdonut
15:45.44Repomojosdojo: http://www.wowace.com/projects/castdonut/. CastDonut. Adds an inobtrusive circular castbar around the mousecursor, handy for Clique users Screenshot shows the castbar, imagine the cursor in it :) You can edit some of the settings radius, thickness, color...
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16:06.51ckknightHey all. If your rewarded points go up/down from yesterday, it's because we now filter out deleted/abandoned projects from our point generation.
16:08.31ckknightFunkeh`: you dropped a bit, apparently your deleted projects still had quite a few users :P
16:08.48ckknightunless you set up a bunch of splits yesterday
16:08.56Funkeh`well that sucks
16:09.00Funkeh`but ok
16:09.12Funkeh`I have like as many deleted projects as I do live
16:09.19Funkeh`prob more
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16:09.33ckknightFunkeh`: it also could be that you set up a lot of reward splits yesterday
16:09.39ckknightI see that [Ammo] went up significantly
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16:09.47Funkeh`not really
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16:09.57ckknightFunkeh`: Arrowmaster said he was gonna take from you
16:09.57Repo10libcandybar-3-0: 03Ammo * r18 bars.lua: more documentation
16:10.03ckknightshrugs
16:10.08Funkeh`yes, then I told him to fuck off and changes it
16:10.13ckknightokay
16:10.13Funkeh`changed*
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16:11.21Funkeh`ckknight, am I no1 points?
16:11.31ckknightEnglish please
16:11.42Funkeh`can I has larger epeen?
16:11.50ckknightyou can.
16:12.15Funkeh`need a rewards points ranking system because only no1 would truly be awesome
16:12.40Funkeh`but on a serious note, it would be nice if mangers were emailed if point splits were changed
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16:13.46ckknightFunkeh`: oh, I'm number 1
16:14.07Funkeh`thats cause you got all your cart/cow/tip/pitbull shit
16:14.11ckknightFunkeh`: well, really, only managers should be changing them. Arrowmaster just used his moderation powers
16:14.25Funkeh`yes, and Im very insecure about that
16:14.41Funkeh`dodgy moderators
16:14.48ckknightat least he told you
16:14.54Funkeh`that's true
16:14.56ckknightif he didn't, then he'd be banned
16:14.59ckknightseriously.
16:15.18[Ammo]Funkeh`: I added rabbit and myself to some bigwigs parts
16:15.21[Ammo]the really old ones
16:15.23[Ammo]that's why
16:15.30[Ammo]since they were 100% you
16:15.30Funkeh`[Ammo], good
16:15.36Elkanoconsidering the "only a handfull of authors" with more than 12k points expected per year and seeing my points, I think I've a little problem when I spend them all ^^'
16:15.47Pneumatusckknight: should they have generally gone up, or down today?
16:15.51ckknightPneumatus: depends.
16:15.57ckknightmine went down, others have gone up
16:16.03ckknightmine went down 4 points, though
16:16.09ckknightwhich isn't huge
16:16.37Elkanowell, if you had a bunch of addons that now no longer get points they most likely went down; in the other case you'll get some of those points those having such addons would have gotten
16:16.45ckknightPneumatus: if you have deleted/abandoned projects that you were getting points from, you no longer get those points
16:16.58Pneumatusoh, no, i dont
16:17.12Pneumatusmine have been gradually going down since release i think
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16:17.28Funkeh`[Ammo], I had edited some of the bc ones according to how much work had been done, but hadn't gotten to the pre-bc ones yet
16:17.44[Ammo]I just did 34/33/33 thing
16:17.48[Ammo]for the really old ones
16:17.48ckknightPneumatus: that's cause authors have been signing up and such.
16:17.51[Ammo]shrug
16:17.53Pneumatusalthough that's to be expected with more authors signing up i guess
16:17.53Funkeh`fair enough
16:18.03[Ammo]since soo much went on during those times
16:18.10Pneumatushard to gauge if addon popularity is increasing though
16:19.18Funkeh`ckknight, so if I restore all my deleteed projects I get points again/ :P
16:19.24[Ammo]rofl
16:19.37ckknightgaming the system is punishable by removal from the author reward program
16:19.42ckknightjust be honest.
16:19.51Funkeh`well, you said they had lots of users?
16:19.51[Ammo]people need to download CastDonut
16:19.55[Ammo]I am not making any points of it :p
16:20.11ckknightFunkeh`: my guess it's more likely that the splits that [Ammo] got are the bigger cause.
16:20.21[Ammo]Ammo and Rabbit
16:20.23Funkeh`I see
16:20.24ckknightyea
16:20.26ckknightthey went up
16:20.32ckknight[Ammo], significantly
16:20.45Funkeh`but reducing 100 > 33 isn't the same as 100 > 0 :P
16:20.51[Ammo]indeed
16:20.54Pneumatuseveryone needs to use HideLooted tbh, badge spam is annoying!
16:21.05Funkeh`no
16:21.08Funkeh`everyone needs FreeMe
16:21.14Funkeh`because getting buffed with salvation is annoying
16:21.58Funkeh`ckknight, who's 2nd?
16:22.06ckknightthat's vhaarr
16:22.15Funkeh`bugger I need to make more addons
16:22.20ckknightFunkeh`: you're #6
16:22.24Funkeh`wtf
16:22.28Stanzillahaha :D
16:22.30ckknightwait, you were #6
16:22.37[Ammo]rofl
16:22.40Funkeh`...
16:22.43ckknightyou're #13, Funkeh`
16:22.46ckknightright behind Kaelten
16:22.55Funkeh`kaelten!?
16:22.57Funkeh`jeez
16:23.01ckknighthe has Ace3
16:23.01[Ammo]Ace3 baby ace3
16:23.09Funkeh`oh
16:23.12netcurseand one bag
16:23.21ckknightyea
16:23.26ckknightbut Kaelten's really missing out
16:23.31Repo10talented: 03jerry * r559 editmode.lua:
16:23.34ckknighton those sweet, sweet OneRing3 points
16:23.35RepoFix a bug where invalid compressed data may generate an error in template validation.
16:24.08Funkeh`So all I gotta do is make a massive addon that does too much then I'll be #1?
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16:24.19ckknightFunkeh`: no, you need to do multiple
16:24.24Funkeh`bugger
16:24.41ckknightZorbaTHut, who has quest helper, which is the #1 project, is only #5
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16:24.48Repo10fishermans-friend: 03Ammo 04r82-release * r83 : Tagging as r82-release
16:24.53StanzillaFunkeh`: wtb addon that lets you shift click the reputation bars in the char window and prints the current status and the missing repu for the next level to chat
16:24.55Stanzillagogo
16:25.00Elkanowhere do I stand?
16:25.05steevto the left
16:25.09Funkeh`Stanzilla, lol
16:25.18StanzillaFunkeh`: I really want that :(
16:25.20ElkanoStanzilla, FactionsFu can do something like that ;)
16:25.28steevStanzilla: yeah, factionsfu
16:25.30Funkeh`I think I might have to give up on that leaderboard
16:25.33steevor something along those lines
16:25.37Kaeltenckknight: uhuh, or3 is there ! :P
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16:25.46ElkanoElkFaction will soon, too ^^
16:25.53Funkeh`obviously lots of little projects ~= 1 monolithic project
16:25.57sb|workKaelten: or3?
16:25.58Funkeh`I mean, questhelper...
16:25.59ckknightElkano: #9
16:26.02Elkanowow
16:26.07Kaeltensb|work: onering3
16:26.15Elkanowell, I got LSM3 ^^
16:26.21[Ammo]Elkano: libsm-3, guildfu, friendfu
16:26.21ckknightabout 75% of the people on the first two pages are wowace-based
16:26.26[Ammo]those are what give you the pointies
16:26.32Elkanodon't forget EBB ^^
16:26.34ckknightone page being 20 people
16:26.36Pneumatusckknight: are the top people generally authors of the big libs, or are their points from their own addons, or a little of both?
16:26.37[Ammo]oh yeah and ebb
16:26.43ckknightPneumatus: both, mostly
16:26.59ckknightPneumatus: top 4 have both addons and libs
16:27.01Kaeltenyeah even on the second page of 20 the majority came out of wowace
16:27.36Elkanowell, and I don't even get points from PT3.1 ^^
16:28.00Funkeh`I guess I should got make LibAlar
16:28.02Funkeh`oh no wait
16:28.02Elkanoor Mendeleev
16:28.33[Ammo]Mendeleev = 100% to rabbit
16:28.39[Ammo]I'd say ask him for a cut!
16:28.40ckknightRabbit is #2
16:28.54ckknightyes, if you contributed, you should be asking the project manager for a cut
16:29.04Elkanowell, for PT3, I'm not even listed as an athor :(
16:29.18Elkanoand nymbia hasn't been online for ages
16:29.22netcursenew cc release today with big donation bottums btw
16:29.26[Ammo]100^ to nymbia for that
16:29.29durcyn~seen nymbia
16:29.31purlnymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-165-238-170.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 10h 40m 28s ago, saying: 'yeah'.
16:29.36durcynages!
16:29.51Elkanowell, on wowace ^^
16:29.58ckknightwoo, bottums!
16:30.02Elkanobut got to catch my train... l8ers
16:30.05Funkeh`netcurse, I don't see any new cc
16:30.10netcursetoday :)
16:30.16netcurseit's 9h30 am here
16:30.21KaeltenFunkeh`: we're doign another round of internal testing first
16:30.27Funkeh`it's 5.30 pm here
16:30.29Funkeh`and GMT is real time
16:30.38StanzillaKaelten: wtb 4.0 client alpha :P
16:30.39netcurseno real time is french time
16:30.44Elkanoand net, get amazon gifts for europe ready soon, please ^^ my sis is going to get married ^^
16:30.48nicoli_sreal time is UTC
16:30.55KaeltenStanzilla: 4.0 client looks awesome
16:31.00nicoli_sindeed it does
16:31.01[Ammo]just give .co.uk
16:31.02StanzillaKaelten: thats why I want it :(
16:31.02nicoli_sso shiny
16:31.05Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1789 ARLFrame.lua:
16:31.08RepoFix Ticket (533) - No error should pop up when you click on the expanded text of the last recipe in this list.
16:31.10[Ammo]since pounds are like monopoly money atm
16:31.11[Ammo]:)
16:31.18[Ammo]compared to euro
16:31.20Funkeh`lol
16:32.32Kaeltenwow 1.5 bucks
16:32.33ckknightbtw, we're going to support Europe _before_ we officially launch the store
16:32.42Kaeltenhasn't been that low since I was in high school
16:32.57[Ammo]yeah but the prices at amazon.co.uk are still in the old values
16:33.02[Ammo]so stuff is cheap there for us :)
16:33.07[Ammo]so hurry!
16:33.08Funkeh`-.-
16:33.14[Ammo]:)
16:33.17netcurseUK= third tier worl
16:33.18netcursed
16:34.15Stanzillauk = third world
16:34.17Stanzillahides
16:34.28Kaeltenyeah... the us even had to send them a bailout
16:35.29[Ammo]time to get home
16:36.02nicoli_si cant wait till curse gets our bailout
16:39.58Kaeltenyeah, netcurse is going to buy us an island
16:40.30ckknightwe'll make a failing bank with the bailout money
16:40.31Funkeh`netcurse is one of those rich frenchies
16:40.35ckknightand thus get another bailout
16:40.37Funkeh`hogging all the money
16:40.46ckknightFunkeh`:
16:40.49ckknightpretty true
16:40.51netcursemy bed is build in gold
16:40.57Funkeh`lol
16:41.03ckknighthe's like Scrooge McDuck
16:41.06ckknightswimming in his gold coins
16:41.19netcurseyou call him McDuck here?
16:41.22netcursewe say picsous in french
16:42.16Kaeltenhehe, yeah McDuck, that show was awesome.
16:42.36Kaeltenor maybe it was MacDuck
16:42.37Kaeltennot sure
16:42.52ckknightMcDuck
16:43.01Xinhuani think i only have 1 lib in my name ckknight
16:43.02ckknighthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrooge_McDuck
16:43.04NeoTronJoakim von Anka in Swedish
16:43.07ckknightXinhuan: possible
16:43.22Xinhuanbut recount uses it so heh
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16:47.00Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r5548 / (2 files in 2 directories): deDE goodies
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16:48.13NeoTronEvery time I see "Wolfram Alpha" I think of 'Wolfram and Hart"..
16:49.09Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1790 Docs/Documentation.txt: Update docs.
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16:53.59Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1791 Locals/testenUS.lua:
16:54.02RepoUpdate locale for: L["CLASS_DESC"]= "Include this class in the scan.  This will filter on two factors: 1) Can the class use the recipe and 2) can the class learn the recipe."
16:59.00netcursehttp://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/316675.html?playlist=featured
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16:59.11netcursemade my day yesterday
17:00.51BrunersBenQ is cool, i sent a mail in english and got a return mail in swedish
17:00.57Brunersand im norwegian
17:01.26netcurseyag talar engleska
17:02.56Bruners*jag
17:03.26nicoli_sdamn you netcurse, shoulda added [NSFW] to that linl
17:03.47nicoli_sdo you know how upset my ceo would be if he knew i was watching dirty movies at work
17:04.34NeoTronI have a 24" flatscreen BenQ monitor
17:04.38NivFreakditto
17:04.40NivFreaklove it
17:04.45NeoTronnicoli_s: har har
17:07.17Gnarfozsylvanaar: what do I have to do to make prat's channel color memory to pick up channel colors?
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17:14.25Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1792 / (2 files in 1 directory):
17:14.28RepoImplement ticket 534, we now keep track of profession specific exclusions.  Also rewrite the exclusion function to be a bit more better. :P
17:17.34Fisker-hey AckisWork
17:17.47AckisWork~love Fisker-
17:17.47purlIf you love Fisker- so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
17:17.50Fisker-because you are a horrible person Bruners
17:19.01Fisker-oh god orionshock
17:20.54Repo10big-wigs: 03a9012456 * r5549 Core.lua: zhTW update
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17:31.06Repo10broker_exit: 03Jabouty * r2 lib/: initial files
17:31.31Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r804 Data/Warlock.lua: - Warlock talent updates
17:34.30Repo10broker_exit: 03Jabouty * r3 / (11 files in 4 directories): Initial Files Commit
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17:37.27Repo10broker_exit: 03Jabouty 041.0.0-beta * r4 : Tagging as 1.0.0-beta
17:39.18gaellalireHello, question about COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED, why event does not occurs when I filter my combat log ? Is this event bugged ?
17:39.51NeoTronnope (works fine for me)
17:40.43gaellalirestrange
17:41.36Torhalckknight: Any resolution on the algorithm?
17:42.31Gnarfozgaellalire: COMBAT_LOG_EVENT = filtered, _UNFILTERED = unfiltered; everything else is either "doing it wrong" or a bug ;>
17:42.55gaellalireI think  there is a bug
17:43.54gaellalireWhat happen to me I uncheck "me" box
17:44.02Gnarfozyou could be more specific about what you expect to see
17:44.06Gnarfozi.e. which event
17:44.11Gnarfoz!api SendChatMessage
17:44.12lua_botDocumentation for 'SendChatMessage' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendChatMessage
17:44.14gaellalireENCHANT_APPLIED
17:45.24gaellalireENCHANT_APPLIED does not occurs if I unckeck "me" box in filter
17:46.17Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1793 AckisRecipeList.lua: Should copare a name to a name, not a number.
17:46.58Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r805 / (2 files in 2 directories):
17:47.01Repo- Further warlock talent corrections, multiplicative talents should apply correctly in general now
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17:51.13Primerjnwhiteh: It seems that someone else has already used the new TomTom API for hijacking the arrow
17:51.14Primer@project tomtomping
17:51.14RepoPrimer: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/tomtomping/. TomTomPing. Game: WoW. Baaras (Manager/Author). Updated: 19 hours ago
17:51.32PrimerI just got a comment on my addon where this author was about to add the same functionality mine provides to that addon
17:52.01BrunersFisker-: good thing i do understand swedish compared to your potato speak
17:53.13falconindyAnyone have any idea what might cause Git not to include a changelog when pushing with a tag? Or is it the repo causing this?
17:57.41AckisWorkPrimer: new API?
17:58.15Repo10talented: 03jerry * r560 / (4 files in 3 directories): Fix Set as target menu.
17:58.18RepoAdd a bottom offset option so that text and button on the bottom of Talented are not covered by or do not cover the talent pane.
17:58.24Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r806 Data/Warlock.lua:
17:58.27Repo- One last stab at warlock talents. Someone test accuracy plx.
17:58.31PrimerAckisWork: jnwhiteh added some methods to allow for the "hijacking" of the TomTom arrow
17:58.47PrimerWhere one can set the angle
17:59.00AckisWorkahh was hoping he added the custom texture stuff
17:59.00Primerfor tracking of players, for example
17:59.35PrimerWhich is what my newly released addon FriendlyArrow does
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18:01.49TorhalKaelten: ping
18:02.10Kaeltenpong
18:02.32TorhalKaelten: Did the point algorithm get sorted today?
18:02.47ckknightTorhal: howdy
18:02.52Torhalckknight: Heh
18:02.58TorhalYolas.
18:03.10ckknightwe did make it so that deleted and abandoned projects no longer get points, but the issue you were having is somewhat "works as intended" :[
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18:03.25TorhalSo I was getting too many points to begin with, or...?
18:03.31Torhalmakes a confused face.
18:03.34ckknightbasically.
18:03.36TorhalAh.
18:03.52ckknightsoz
18:04.08ckknightthe trick is to promote LibQTipClick and get more addons to use it ;-)
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18:04.54TorhalDunno if that's what's going to happen. Elkano was talking about folding that stuff into LQT itself in a non-intrusive way.
18:04.58Torhal:D
18:05.04Gnarfoz~seen sylvanaar
18:05.07purlsylvanaar is currently on #wowuidev (5d 7m 47s) #wowace (5d 7m 47s) #curseforge (5d 7m 47s). Has said a total of 394 messages. Is idling for 22h 29m 44s, last said: 'Gnarfoz i havent looked for 2+ years'.
18:07.00Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1794 / (2 files in 1 directory): AckisRecipeList:
18:07.12Repo- fixed show exclusion option and use new separate count for progress bar
18:10.49Fisker-http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Tubolinag&group=2 <-lol
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18:16.13Xinhuanoh
18:16.29Xinhuani no longer get points for WoWEquip that is no longer downloadable since last year? ;p
18:17.04Xinhuan2 hours ago 3.0598 Generated points WoWEquip
18:17.07Xinhuanhmm.
18:17.50Xinhuan"This project is inactive"
18:18.01Xinhuani guess inactve isn't teh same as "abandoned"
18:18.06[Ammo]hehe
18:19.03TorhalXinhuan:  It's downloadable. It's inactive because it hasn't been updated in 7 months.
18:19.16TorhalYou're getting 58 downloads a day on average.
18:19.57Xinhuannone of my last 150 commits are downloadable :)
18:19.58HjalteDoes it even work still?
18:20.00Gagorian-What poins, where, huh?
18:20.08Gagorian-s/poins/points/
18:20.13Xinhuannah well not until i switch the packaging from None to Alpha
18:20.16HjalteHmm. I suppose it works for the chinese players.
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18:27.22ckknightXinhuan: inactive ≠ abandoned. It eventually will become abandoned, though
18:27.32Xinhuanhow does it work
18:27.36Xinhuanfor abandoned?
18:27.37ramozGagorian-: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/curse-premium-and-authors/
18:27.44Xinhuani'm actually committing to it daily
18:27.54Xinhuanbut merely telling the packager to package nothing
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18:30.16Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2044 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update
18:33.15ckknightXinhuan: once abandoned, you get no points for it
18:34.08Xinhuanmy question wasn't that, it was how a project gets marked as abandoned ;p
18:36.04Repo10smooth-quest: 03Ammo * r66 SmoothQuest.lua:
18:36.07Repouse an environment proxy for the watchframe instead of hooking a gazillion functions. Thanks haste!
18:36.12ckknightafter like 6 months of being inactive or os
18:36.13ckknightso*
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18:42.02Repo10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r200 YurrCombatLog.lua: YurrCombatLog:
18:42.05Repo- finalString, you are not an outsider, go in line with the other strings
18:42.16Repo10skg_web: 03Jabouty * r21 / (5 files in 2 directories):
18:42.19RepoTimeZone Fix: http://www.wowace.com/projects/skg_web/tickets/9-question-about-timezones-and-loot-timestamp/
18:42.22Repoconfig.php *HAS* changed.  You *MUST* use the current config.php provided and import your settings into it.  Be sure to pay attention to the timezone settings for this one.  This *should* be the last time I change config.php.
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18:45.17PrimerI'm such a pussy
18:45.34PrimerI'm making a new video for my FlightHUD addon, so at the end, I thought I'd spice it up by ganking a horde
18:45.41Primerand now I feel bad for doing so
18:45.49PrimerI'm not a ganker at heart
18:47.06EvilJohnheh
18:47.07Repo10skg_web: 03Jabouty * r22 / (2 files in 2 directories): Version Update: 1.8.4-beta
18:47.24EvilJohneverytime, (by that I mean, twice a year), I think I'm going to gank someone, they turn around and kick my ass
18:47.27EvilJohni'm so bad at pvp
18:47.29Repo10skg_web: 03Jabouty 041.8.4-beta * r23 : Tagging as 1.8.4-beta
18:48.04Repo10talented: 03jerry * r561 pet.lua:
18:48.05EvilJohnwhen you hear someone in vent saying "I just totally owned some newb four levels higher than me, while I was fighting an elite", you can safely assume they were talking about me
18:48.07RepoUse the pet's talent group when updating the pet template, as it seems that pets may have two when both hunter talent Groups use the Beast Mastery talent.
18:49.17HjalteEvilJohn: You haven't seen me do arenas then.
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18:51.00EvilJohnI suck, and i'm not too proud to admit it.
18:51.19EvilJohnputting me in arena would be me trying eat a "Souper Salad"
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18:57.03Repo10talented: 03jerry 04v2.2-beta1 * r562 : Tagging as v2.2-beta1
18:59.03Primerwell, I'm pretty good at 1v1 pvp
18:59.08PrimerI just suck at arena
18:59.30Primerdammit, there's no sound in this video
18:59.51Primerplus there's some artifacting
19:01.06Repo10smooth-quest: 03Ammo * r67 SmoothQuest.lua: fix tooltip hooking, now colors unit and item tooltips
19:02.39Repo10smooth-quest: 03Ammo 04r67-release * r68 : Tagging as r67-release
19:04.54steevas long as i have a healer, im okay
19:05.29HjalteMeh, trying to book a flight with ryanair, but it won't let me use my phone number, because we don't have area/city code in Denmark.
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19:06.05RepoFix comparison of a few numbers to determine singular vs. plural.
19:06.08RepoAdd more comprehensive debugging.
19:06.35Brunerswhat was the name of the addon that colors the questtracker?
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19:12.03Repo- added missing space after amount
19:13.58NeoTronman must say I'm a bit impressed that ensidia got the 10 man ulduar mount already
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19:16.25NeoTronbest commit message ever
19:16.34RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker_exit/. Broker_Exit. Jabouty (Manager/Author). Approved by Zhinjio.
19:18.19Repo10shamanwarning: 03Silmano 07master * v1.1.08b-2-g714cda2 / (7 files in 2 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated)
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19:18.35Repo7c33224: r119
19:18.39Repo91e362b: v1.1.08b
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19:19.32EvilJohnthat doesn't seem very helpful.
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19:29.45Repo10manager: 03Lhooq * r46 Manager/ (3 files in 2 directories): Use unfiltered combat log and add lib sink option
19:30.38Axodious@describe shamanwarning
19:30.39RepoAxodious: http://www.wowace.com/projects/shamanwarning/. Shaman Warning. This mod will play a sound alert when you gain certain shaman buffs/special abilities. I made this because many times I don't even realize I have them due to fights or not reading the entire combat...
19:33.44Repo10totemmanager: 03Lhooq * r33 / (3 files in 1 directory): 4.11.1
19:34.49Repo10totemmanager: 03Lhooq 044.11.1 * r34 : Tagging as 4.11.1
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19:37.47Repo- fixed obtain flags of all Ulduar Leatherworking recipes
19:37.47pentium166@describe manager
19:37.48Repopentium166: http://www.wowace.com/projects/manager/. Manager. These libraries provides functionalities for TotemManager. However alls libs except ManagerFrameLib could be use in others projects : - FactoryLib (object oriented utility for lua) - EventHandlerLib...
19:38.51Repo10arl: 03Torhal * r1797 ARLFrame.lua:
19:38.53RepoIn ttAdd(): Renamed wraptext parameter to use_span and added support for it. This makes the 'usage' text at the bottom of the tooltip span both columns, thereby shrinking the overall tooltip size to what it was before the LibQTip addition.
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19:44.01kachna|lappyheya there,just a noob question :P when i install the "Ace3" addon itself, i can then use these "-nolib" addons to save some memory and loading time,right?
19:44.19nevcairielAlot of addons use more libraries then just ace3
19:44.39kachna|lappymm that sounds like a valid point
19:44.50kachna|lappythey'll have them mentioned in addon requirements tho,right?
19:44.54kachna|lappyi mean dependencies or so
19:44.59nevcairielin the optional deps, usually.
19:45.13kachna|lappyalrighty,thanks :P
19:46.35Arrowmasterkachna|lappy: the Curse Client can be set to use the -nolib versions and automaticly install any needed libraries
19:46.43Arrowmasterhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cartographer.aspx
19:46.44kachna|lappyone more thing, is using svn to update addons in some way against yer umm..wishes? a know,like going around actually loading the website :P im lazy so i'm tryin to make it automatically updating for me
19:46.50Arrowmasterand yes i love being an asshole
19:47.00kachna|lappyArrowmaster: giev linux curse client :/
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19:47.10Torhalkachna|lappy: Wine
19:47.14Arrowmasterkachna|lappy: curse client works in wine if you install ie6
19:47.17Brunersit works well on wine
19:47.33Arrowmasterkachna|lappy: if you have a premium account it works without ie6
19:47.42Brunerskachna|lappy: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
19:47.47kachna|lappyoh well i'll think about it, though i'm waiting for wowinterface since they're makin native linux client
19:47.56kachna|lappyyaya i know winetricks and stuff :P
19:48.45kachna|lappywell thanks for help :) i'll give it a try
19:49.48Brunersis it normal that 10+ people are fishing in dalaran?
19:49.54Arrowmasteryes
19:50.02Arrowmasterin the fountain?
19:50.05Brunersyep
19:50.08kenlyricalways
19:50.09Arrowmasteryeah coins
19:50.15nicoli_skachna|lappy its not actaully native, its just java if i recall correctly
19:50.22kachna|lappy20+ yesterday on skullcrusher
19:50.24kenlyricachievement monkeys
19:50.24Axodiouscasually flips his dalaran seal
19:50.35kenlyricnobody cares
19:51.20kachna|lappynicoli_s: well java is kinda platform independant,so it just works fine out of the box :P
19:51.25Brunersim skilling hte lats points of fishing
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19:52.56GnarfozNeoTron: why is basically all functionality of MagicDKP restricted to raid leader / master looter? >_>
19:53.02Fisker-flips Axodious off
19:53.19Axodious~karma Fisker--
19:53.19purlfisker-- has karma of -1
19:53.20Axodious:(
19:53.27Axodiousbah
19:53.44Arrowmaster~Fisker--
19:53.47mortstabs everyone in the face
19:53.57Axodious~fisker--
19:54.00morterrr wrong channel
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19:54.59durcynlua> tonumber(string.sub("0xF13000806700AF99",-12, -7),16)
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20:00.35NeoTronGnarfoz: because they are the only ones that should use. by design.
20:01.49NeoTronmainly to 1) prevent people not being the loot manager (RL or ML) from getting popups, taking standby events etc and 2) to have one automatically defined master source that is broadcasted
20:05.12Bruners~karma bruners
20:05.12purlbruners has neutral karma
20:07.18GnarfozNeoTron: can't distribute loot if the leader wants an item and not 100% of raid has _Client, then.
20:08.10nevcairielhave everyone do whisper bids to another person
20:09.19NeoTronGnarfoz: leader unable to ignore chat window until he's bid or something?
20:10.00NeoTronofc I can add whisper blocking as well but just moving the bid window over the chat frame would solve the issue
20:10.05[Ammo]we use an open auction for much hilarity and "c'mon, be a man, bid more!" etc :)
20:14.40Gnarfoz[Ammo]: that's both annoying and not compatible with single bid :]
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20:15.31NeoTronGnarfoz: btw one of the main motivators, other than to simplify bid taking, was for be to be able to bid on items myself without cumbersome workarounds.
20:16.30[Ammo]open bidding makes for less mistakes, more honesty, and well, it's a real auction :)
20:19.45GnarfozNeoTron: ? how has that lead to not allowing other raid assistants to start auctions? :\
20:19.51durcyn[Ammo]: if i had a patch for fishermansfriend that stopped trying to use the fishing hat when it's on cooldown, would you prefer i merge it or pastey it
20:20.05[Ammo]show pastey first
20:20.21GnarfozNeoTron: also, I'm sure he/she could "ignore" the chat window until they've bid, but then that's not good enough for the others who can bid...
20:20.34durcynalright, i'll test it and link it after while
20:20.37Gnarfozwe just have bids be taken by someone not bidding on the item
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20:21.54Repo10big-wigs: 03durcyn * r5550 Ulduar/Algalon.lua: add preliminary warnings for Phase Punch and Cosmic Smash
20:24.48NivFreak1 hour a week is so silly
20:24.59NivFreakdid they really do the same thing with nef in classic?
20:25.36durcynthere's nothing wrong with timers
20:25.55durcynit makes it a skill race instead of a time sink
20:25.58NivFreaksure
20:26.03NivFreakI think it should be a certain number of pulls ;)
20:26.16Repo10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu 04v0.8.5 * r216 : Tagging as v0.8.5
20:26.20durcynif you're better you get more pulls =P
20:26.28NivFreakhah
20:26.40NivFreakI just dread the random DC as you're about to pull
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20:27.14durcynit's a great incentive to optimize, that's for sure
20:27.33durcynand algalon looks like it's going to be an amazing fight
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20:29.18durcynif i had one complaint it'd be the retuning of hard modes on release week to arbitrary lock out guilds that didn't get to the initial versions at the same time as others
20:29.30durcynbecause that in turn fucks up the aforementioned race
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20:33.22Brunerscan you summon Gahz'ranka several times on one reset?
20:33.34NivFreakthe ZG boss?
20:33.37Brunersyep
20:33.39NivFreakno
20:35.37durcynnot after he's dead, no
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20:39.22NeoTronGnarfoz: I really have no interest in trying to "sync" bids done by random people in the raid
20:39.33GnarfozI don't understand
20:39.38Gnarfozsync what?
20:39.51NeoTronthe dkp data for the raid
20:39.55NeoTronand I really don't get the problem
20:40.05Gnarfozdoesn't that get recorded on loot assign...?
20:40.12NeoTronif you don't trust the loot master to not cheat why the heck is he the loot masteR?
20:40.27Gnarfozbecause new people come around etc?
20:40.46Gnarfozexcluding the player taking the bids from bidding is obviously trustworthy
20:42.17kadrahilis it worth trading 2% dodge for 2k health if i switch trinkets?
20:42.25NeoTronthat said, I can see making /md bid "unlocked" since it doesnt' inheritedly affect what gets recorded (but doing it would force the loot master to parse loot events, which is suboptimal)
20:42.45Gnarfozuhm
20:42.48NeoTronand I don't use "new people" as loot master. I use myself or another senior member..
20:42.55Gnarfoz...
20:43.01Gnarfozof course?
20:43.08NeoTronso why is it an issue with "new people"?
20:43.14Gnarfoznew people should be able to put their trust in a sound loot system
20:43.28Gnarfozthey're not the ones who do loot master, of course
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20:43.33Brunersif the new people dont trust you, why are they even raiding with you?
20:43.34NeoTronif they are so petty they don't trust the loot master, who ultimately decides who gets all loot, should they be members?
20:43.42GnarfozBruners: because they're applicants?
20:43.43NeoTronindeed
20:44.07NeoTronif they show mistrust in the looting process during the trial period that'd be a big red flag for me
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20:44.44NeoTronof course I don't allow people NOT to run the client now when it actually works. in either case, I'm not against making "/md bid" skip the loot master check
20:44.59NeoTroneven though a better option would be to block whisper bids
20:45.11NeoTronbest option ofc is to make people use the client :P
20:47.55Gnarfoz<NeoTron> if they show mistrust in the looting process during the trial period that'd be a big red flag for me <-- so you want blindly obedient people who don't think things through? if I recruit people who can contribute to tactics etc, I expect them to also look critically at the loot system they're using.
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20:48.30Repo--Actual usage of the keywords?
20:48.32NivFreakGnarfoz: we do open bidding in /raid
20:48.40GnarfozNivFreak: good for you
20:48.52NivFreak:P
20:49.05NeoTronGnarfoz: I expect people to follow the loot rules and system and not question it, yes
20:49.16NeoTronespecially questioning the honesty of the person doing the loot
20:49.35GnarfozNeoTron: well, in a single hidden bid system, that's kind of "not good enough" IMHO
20:49.51KemayoI agree with "if you don't trust our officiers, you probably shouldn't be raiding with us"
20:49.52Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r807 / (2 files in 2 directories):
20:49.55Repo- Added some priest glyphs, fixed (hopefully) some talents to apply correctly
20:50.35NeoTronGnarfoz: why not just make these untrusting trials use the client, so the bid is guaranteed hidden then?
20:51.10GnarfozI don't get why you're focusing on trust issues
20:51.42NeoTronthe design is made in such a way that you don't need someone else to handle bids that the loot master wants
20:51.51NeoTronI'd rather "fix" that issue than change the design
20:51.55Gnarfoznot unless you implement blocking whispers...
20:52.07NeoTronwhich I mentioned earlier was one solution
20:52.12Gnarfoz;)
20:52.25Gnarfozand to reiterate because I'm not certain I understood the reasoning:
20:52.39Gnarfozwhy is it a problem if someone else than the loot master takes bids?
20:52.39NeoTronbut I also agree that /md bid being blocked if you're not a loot master isn't necessary
20:52.43Gnarfozthe loot master still distributes the item
20:52.45NeoTron^^^
20:52.47Gnarfozok
20:52.48Gnarfoz;)
20:53.09NeoTronthe main issue is having to listen to loot events
20:53.31NeoTronI don't want to do it since a direct call from the addon is more correct (and works even if the person didn't get the item)
20:53.38NeoTronor was out of range
20:54.08NeoTronwhich of course completely breaks on mimiron since we do that with FFA due to the item that needs to be looted
20:54.15Gnarfozwell, we're not switching loot masters
20:54.25NeoTronunderstood
20:54.37Gnarfozwe need to invent telepathy :\
20:54.39NeoTronoh wait
20:54.58NeoTronI guess the loot message is still sent.. if you use xlootmaster or MagicLooter/LootMenu in that case
20:55.15NeoTroncould add network syncing of the completed bid result too
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20:57.46GnarfozNeoTron: you're trusting the highest bid over the actual loot event for tracking the loot? hm
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21:01.53NeoTronGnarfoz: when an item is given using magicdkp bidder, lootmenu or xlootmaster, they call a method in MagicDKP to indicate the item was given out
21:02.22NeoTronwhich is a reliable way to indicate that an item was (intended to be) looted.
21:02.35Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r185 LibPeriodicTable-3.1-TradeskillLevels/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-TradeskillLevels.lua: --Revision Date Id
21:02.38NeoTroncompared to the loot event itself that doesn't work if the recipient was too far away
21:04.18Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r186 / (2 files in 2 directories): --Ammo.Thrown, Leatherworking and minipet changes
21:07.10Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r279 / (7 files in 4 directories):
21:07.14RepoXPerl: Added option for the name that gets added to bottom of buff tooltips (With the cooldown options in global options). Bound to be other mods that do this at some point. yeh, ok, Utopia shortly :) Also tweaked party frames startup to not be hidden when logging in in-combat, gonna see if we can improve this some more shortly.
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21:15.00Repo10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r5551 / (3 files in 3 directories): ruRU update
21:16.13Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r762 libs/: --Ditch LibPeriodicTable-3.1-AutoBar
21:21.33NeoTronZeksie: any progress with the pet frames not being visible in a raid until I open the config pane?
21:21.45Zeksieyes
21:21.49Zeksieturn on raid titles
21:21.51Zeksieit'll work
21:21.54Zeksiei'm looking into why
21:22.01NeoTronok I'll use that workaround
21:22.08NeoTronnot that it's as important as on Malygos
21:22.16NeoTronstill nice to see in FL
21:22.27Zeksieyeh. it's annoying me too :)
21:23.00NeoTronbest motivator to get something fixed - annoying the author himself
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21:38.06Gnarfozsylvanaar: ping
21:38.10Repo10utopia: 03Zeksie * r65 / (12 files in 2 directories):
21:38.13RepoUtopia: Improved aura tooltip eye candy, with caster name and how much that spell is improved by out of how much.
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21:40.21steevhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_9vy1guTcg
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21:45.00Repo10shamanwarning: 03Silmano 04r119 * c747aab /: [new tag]
21:45.03Repo- Added enUS/esES locales.
21:45.06Repo- Still working on autodetect of trinkets.
21:46.14Repo10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 04r120 * 884aeee /: [new tag]
21:46.17Repo- Added zhCN/zhTW locales.
21:46.20Repo- Added less spam option (show info).
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21:53.18sylvanaarGnarfoz /
21:53.47GnarfozGnarfoz: whee
21:53.49Gnarfozwhat
21:53.51Gnarfozlol
21:54.00sylvanaar[11 17:35] <Gnarfoz> sylvanaar: ping
21:54.11Gnarfozsylvanaar: ChannelColorMemory seems to barf with special characters in custom channel names
21:54.43sylvanaarGnarfoz kk
21:55.03Gnarfozthe function returns them escaped, so I'm not sure why
21:55.15Gnarfoz(GetChatWindowChannels(), that is)
21:56.10Gnarfozalso I noticed my prat SV is full of zone specific general channels, like "General - Orgrimmar" and "General - Blackrock Spire" and so on
21:56.26Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r188 / (6 files in 6 directories): --Full mining run
21:56.29Repo--Mostly CurrencyItems and Gear.Socketed changes
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21:57.50Repob40ad22: Fixed .pkgmeta - forgot AceConfig, oops
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22:02.55Daemonais there a /command to check the versions of the raid members for bigwigs?
22:03.01Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r128 / (4 files in 1 directory): fix item bug
22:03.04Repofix topside bug (ticker 51)
22:03.07Reposhould enhance achievement tracker limit problem
22:04.02Daemonaand [Ammo] http://ace.pastey.net/114035 if i do /bigwigs and if i do /bigwigs again it will double post each line
22:04.23DaemonaFunkeh` too ;)
22:06.33Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1798 Docs/Main.txt: Doc update
22:08.57Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r810 Data/Priest.lua:
22:08.59Repo- Confirmed all base damage/heal values are correct in the Priest module
22:11.26vhaarrDaemona: but not me?
22:12.43Daemonasorry i always forget you are rabbit vhaarr :/
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22:14.08Pneumatusckknight: http://paste.wowace.com/624/ no idea what I did to cause it :<
22:14.45Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.08.19 beta * r765 : Tagging as v3.00.08.19 beta
22:14.51ckknightPneumatus: :(
22:14.55ckknightwhy do you touch yourself at night?
22:16.00ckknightoh, I found it
22:17.32Pneumatushave been using the latest version for days and not had it happen before today, and it only happend once
22:17.41Pneumatusassuming it must be a bit of a cornercase :o
22:18.09Pneumatusping tekkub
22:18.36Repo10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03ckknight * r195 Categories/Cast.lua: bugfix plzplzplz
22:18.42ckknightk
22:20.02Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r811 DrDamage.lua: - Fixed RDX AB support.
22:20.34orionshockFisker-: why do you invoke god before my name? some 5hrs ago?
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22:22.32vhaarrDaemona: ah yes it's a problem with the AceOptions spec and the different implementations
22:22.44vhaarrDaemona: I can hack around it but I'll just silence the error for now
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22:24.10Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5552 Plugins/Colors.lua: Prevent an erro when using the slash command.
22:24.10vhaarr+r
22:24.28Daemona:)
22:24.53vhaarrFunkeh`: who made the bar texts left aligned?
22:24.59ckknightI prefer erro
22:25.02ckknight<.<
22:25.03ckknight>.>
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22:25.32Pneumatusgithub needs to foad, i cant post an issue on one of tekk's projects without it throwing me back to the githup frontpage
22:26.00tekkubsmarter than the interwebz
22:26.04tekkub...
22:26.26Pneumatustekkub: teksLoot.lua line 32, CursorUpdate() expects 'self' to be passed as an arg
22:27.19tekkubah
22:27.46Pneumatusso holding CTRL down hovering some part of the frame results in an error at present
22:28.06Gnarfozvhaarr: commit log sez it was that evil [Ammo]
22:28.06mojosdojo_vhaarr: r5540 "justify the text on the bars left, use lib.xml for inclusion"?
22:28.22vhaarrheh
22:28.27vhaarrI'll add a fucking option then
22:28.37Stanzillayay
22:28.53Pneumatuswe had lots of angry raiders last night because of the defaults change for messages to the bw anchor
22:29.00Pneumatusseeing as its not in the same place as rw :)
22:29.39vhaarryeah Funkeh` wanted to do that, I said "<vhaarr> if you think bw is better yes"
22:29.48vhaarrbut they can easily change it
22:30.37Pneumatusi wish the anchors had a button to vertical-align them
22:30.53vhaarrexplain
22:31.16Pneumatusor horizontal align, even
22:31.17Repo10talented: 03chkid * r563 Locales/koKR.lua: koKR update
22:31.49Pneumatusso you could drag the anchors up/down the screen, and they would snap to the center of the screen vertically
22:32.12Stanzillathat would be nice
22:32.18Pneumatusoff-center bars annoy me and i have to use another addon to position them center now
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22:33.26Pneumatusit's just something i'm anal about, and probably wouldnt be that popular to the masses
22:34.09Repo10moncaiqt: 03Moncai * r2 / (19 files in 3 directories): Initial upload
22:34.22Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5553 Plugins/Bars2.lua:
22:34.25RepoAdd options to set the label vertical position and time visibility on the bars.
22:34.35vhaarrPneumatus: but you probably already have an addon that can handle such things, right?
22:35.09Gnarfozan addon that centers other addon's frames?
22:35.12vhaarryes
22:36.41Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5554 Plugins/Bars2.lua: Add an option to disable icons on bars.
22:37.08Pneumatuswell, i had an addon a while ago that gave me lines on the screen so i could lay stuff out where i wanted it
22:37.19Pneumatusi forget its name, and it seems i dont have it installed anymore...
22:37.30StanzillaAlign
22:38.09Pneumatusthat's the one :)
22:38.15Repo10moncaiqt: 03Moncai * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): Remove double files
22:38.26Pneumatusbeen a while since i've added anything new to need to move around
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22:43.05miica_hi
22:43.18miica_i am doing addon and i got little problem :P
22:43.28vhaarrjust ask
22:44.22miica_http://pastebin.com/db01d6d4 here is code
22:44.24PneumatusRawr makes me sad :<
22:44.29Repo10flight-hud: 03chkid * r217 Locale-koKR.lua: koKR update
22:44.30miica_and some reason it print output twice
22:45.21miica_line 17 comes twice when you type something in raid
22:45.35Gagorian-Well both events trigger?
22:45.40vhaarryour code has a multitude of issues
22:45.48miica_:P
22:46.40miica_Gagorian-: no i tried it with one event and it did same :/
22:47.20miica_vhaarr: well what kind issues you see there? :/
22:47.37vhaarrmany, but none that should cause a double print
22:47.46vhaarrI'm guessing the event is fired once per visible chat frame or something like that
22:49.11miica_my 1st addon :)
22:49.58miica_well it isn't ready yet
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22:50.26miica_it should tell grp/rank/pr when somebody bids item in raid chat
22:50.26orionshockmiica_: are you also running prat?
22:50.36miica_orionshock: no
22:50.47Repo10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r5555 Plugins/Bars2.lua: BigWigs: ruRU update
22:50.56miica_i got chatter but i tryed without it
22:51.06orionshocksame?
22:51.09miica_yeah
22:51.20Pneumatusdoes it double print regardless of who says something in raid, or just you?
22:51.25Repo10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r766 embeds.xml: --fix embeds
22:52.24orionshockmiica_: i'd put a debug statement in your frame handler, see if the handler is being called twice
22:53.39miica_orionshock: well i am not sure how to do it put i will try :D
22:54.28miica_or you will? :D
22:54.37orionshockhttp://pastebin.com/m6f4944ba
22:55.12orionshocktry that. notice the difference in the frame handler. try to avoid using _G.argN ; that method is depreciated :)
22:56.31miica_k
22:57.01Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r5556 / (4 files in 2 directories): updated some deDE triggers
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22:59.48miica_i just lost my raid :P
23:01.02miica_but twice same event
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23:01.45Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r812 / (4 files in 2 directories): - Added some debug API
23:03.50rubikis there a way to find out which/how many addons use a certain lib?
23:05.20Repo10moncaiqt: 03Moncai * r4 .pkgmeta: Update .pkgmeta
23:05.32Brunersdo a search for lib folder name in your addons directory
23:06.12rubiki guess but then it would only show me which of MY addons use it.. but that's fine, i think it was a dead end anyway
23:06.22DathKaelten, is it a known issue that [code] for the bbcode markup does not deal with multiline text?
23:06.33miica_this is so wierd.. :/
23:06.42rubiktrying to figure out which font is used for the Bartender4 hotkey overlays because i've got to change it asap
23:07.20Dathrubik, the wowace project page for a library can show the projects that use the library
23:07.47Repo10moncaiqt: 03Moncai 04v0.0.4beta * r5 : Tagging as 0.0.4 Beta
23:08.29Brunersrubik: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/reverse-relationships/
23:08.33rubikDath: ahhh.. the "Reverse Relationships" thing?
23:08.40rubikyeah got it now, thanks
23:08.54Repo10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm * r42 / (2 files in 1 directory): Broker_ChannelWatch
23:08.58Repo-added scrollable tooltip
23:09.00Repo-fixes nil error
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23:09.58Repo10skg: 03Zhinjio 06newsecurity * r135 / (12 files in 2 directories): SKG :
23:10.01Repo- test build for new security model
23:10.04Repo- converted to wowace localization
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23:13.16Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r813 Caster.lua: - Simplified the Caster calculation engine a bit
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23:21.01Repo10incubator: 03Morgalm * r188 / (2 files in 1 directory): Incubator:
23:21.04Repo- added General Vezax trash
23:21.51Repo10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm 04v2.0 * r43 : Tagging as v2.0
23:22.30ckknightDath: ping me about website issues
23:22.43Dathckknight, ping :)
23:22.50ckknightDath: you probably need to do [code], newline, actual stuff, newline, [/code]
23:23.15Dathckknight, tried that already
23:23.54NeoTronah incubator.. time to install that now when trash actually respawn before mobs die sometimes
23:24.08ckknighthmm
23:24.13ckknightDath: k, I'll look into it
23:24.24ckknightit'll work when http://paste.wowace.com/625/ renders correctly
23:24.49Dathok :)
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23:28.31NeoTronwhich one is the easiest of Freya's adds?
23:28.59Repo10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r814 / (2 files in 2 directories):
23:29.02Repo- Fixed Caster.lua breaking every calculation there is. *whistles innocently*
23:29.29Repo10incubator: 03Morgalm 043.1.0 release 2 * r189 : Tagging as 3.1.0 release 2
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23:31.18durcynNeoTron: i'd get rid of tremor first, personally
23:32.29wallenwe killed her leaving the ironroot ent first
23:32.42miica_ok because I didin't find why i got those output twice i tried different way this..
23:33.04miica_http://pastebin.com/d33d94587 and it won't work :P
23:34.21ckknightgot it, dath
23:34.25NeoTrondurcyn: I'm thinking  in the sense of doing freya +1
23:34.26ckknightDath: deploying now
23:34.26miica_yes and i got .toc file
23:34.41NeoTronwe tried the roots but, basically, the guild as a whole sort of sucks at the 'burn down the <X>' thing :P
23:34.48NeoTronas we've learned on Hodir.. heh
23:35.21NeoTrontremor is a silence only if you cast during it right? rather, it's an interrupt with school lockout, not a silence?
23:35.29Dathckknight, problem with the regex I guess?
23:35.58ckknightDath: mostly that I needed (?s)
23:36.02ckknightsince . wasn't catching newlines
23:36.16Dath:)
23:36.21ckknightDath: http://paste.wowace.com/625/
23:36.24ckknightand http://paste.wowace.com/625.txt
23:36.28Dathnice thanks
23:36.29ckknightas you can see
23:36.41NivFreakNeoTron: you don't actually fight the ents if you leave them up, right?
23:37.19Gnarfoznope
23:37.23Dathmiica_, define "won't work"
23:37.24GnarfozFreya gains the abilities
23:37.34NeoTronabilities + health + more damage
23:37.52NeoTronI suspect they did it that way because it allows the 10-man version to not be exponentially harder compared to 25 man (S3D)
23:38.02Gnarfozindeed
23:38.10vhaarrNeoTron: it's exactly like ignis flame jets
23:38.14vhaarr(ground tremor)
23:38.33vhaarrso ye, stop casting
23:39.06NeoTronso basically it's a large chunk of AoE damage except for trigger happy ppl :P
23:39.18miica_Dath: well I don't get anything when i write in raid chat
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23:40.00ArcharodimDoes Paladin's 'Clease' works on MCed player since WoW 3.1?
23:40.06Gnarfozno
23:40.13Dathmiica_, add debug statements to see where it goes wrong. Start with addon loading, then the event, then the conditionals
23:40.18NeoTrondoesn't work on hostile targets
23:40.29Gnarfozthat.
23:40.30Archarodimit does during Yogg saron fight though
23:40.44miica_Dath: well OnEvent function should be ok
23:40.52Dathmiica_, check anyway
23:40.58GnarfozArcharodim: nope
23:41.08Archarodim5/10 20:39:37.570  SPELL_DISPEL,0x020000000166963F,"Nejaz",0x514,0x0200000000308623,"Knohultaren",0x8001248,4987,"Cleanse",0x2,63042,"Dominate Mind",32,DEBUFF
23:41.18miica_Dath: well it worker earilier
23:41.24Gnarfoztwo mind controlled paladins, perhaps?
23:41.28Gnarfozone dispelling the other?
23:41.34Gnarfozthat's the only way that could happen
23:41.41Dathmiica_, it's about 30 seconds to do.
23:41.48Repo10big-wigs: 03a9012456 * r5557 Plugins/Bars2.lua: zhTW update
23:42.00Gnarfoz(depending on whose combatlog that is, that should be in the flags, right?)
23:42.15Archarodim0x1248, the target is hostile
23:42.31Gnarfozwhose combatlog is it
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23:43.02Archarodimit's from a Decursive user
23:43.11Gnarfozhow's that relevant :D
23:43.13Gnarfozif it's Nejaz' and he was mindcontrolled, another MC'd player would be friendly
23:43.34Archarodimseveral are complaining that Decursive does not work with the 'DOminate mind' debuff
23:43.46miica_Dath: well i am kinda sure problem is in .xml :P
23:43.51Gnarfozanyway, I can't dispel enemy targets, not on Yogg, not anywhere else, simply because Cleanse doesn't work on hostile targets
23:44.03Archarodimnerfaz is 0x514 a friendly player unit
23:44.29Archarodimhace you tried during Yogg fight?
23:44.35Dathmiica_, ok whatever. I don't do xml. Can't help you there. I suggested the normal approach to finding your problem
23:44.59GnarfozArcharodim: of course, but why would it differ.
23:45.11Archarodimthat's the big question...
23:45.24ArcharodimI think it's a bug though
23:45.41Gnarfozonly thing I can imagine is lag
23:45.53Archarodimlag cannot cause such things
23:46.04miica_maybe i just go sleep and try again tomorrow :P
23:46.06Gnarfoznejaz tried to dispel one of the diseases or poisons in the same moment knohultaren got MC'd
23:46.29Archarodimcombat log comes directly from the server I think
23:46.31Gnarfozso the check if he's friendly was through, but it actually dispelled the magic effect?
23:46.34Gnarfozyes it does
23:46.38Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03StingerSoft * r2045 Locales/constants.ru.lua: ruRU update
23:46.48Gnarfozbut maybe the reaction check is local? not sure.
23:47.17ArcharodimI don't think so, I've got several reports that Cleanse does work during this fight
23:47.50Archarodimthere are even some walkthrough on youtube or some guides that mention this
23:48.00NeoTronseems rather bizarre
23:48.01Repo10baggins_auctioneer: 03mikk * r30 / (2 files in 1 directory): - TOC 30100
23:48.04Repo- Fix for BeanCounter reporting back a value of "0" as "Unknown" (?!)
23:48.06NeoTronI can't imagine that is correct
23:48.07Gnarfozthey mention specifically that an ability that can't target hostiles does so on yogg?
23:48.14NeoTronas stated, clease does NOT work on hostile targets
23:48.18GnarfozI'd have to have a different spell in my spellbook for that to work
23:48.19Gnarfoz:\
23:48.46Archarodimnonetheless, Mind controll reports are not working correctly during this fight
23:48.50NeoTrononly thing I can imagine is an MC'd paladin cleansing another player, which would be rather lol-worthy
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23:49.18Archarodimit'not the case here, the one casting the spell as a 0x514 unit flag
23:49.19Repo10baggins_auctioneer: 03mikk 04r30-release * r31 : Tagging as r30-release
23:49.25GnarfozNeoTron: that's what I suggested ;)
23:49.30NeoTronbut not as good as the chick in Stratholme MCing a druid and casting Teleport: Moonglade
23:49.38Archarodimhttp://www.wowwiki.com/UnitFlag
23:49.48NeoTronthat will always be at the top of my wow moments
23:49.56NeoTronthe boss MC's druid, teleports out and disappears
23:50.04NeoTrondruid is stuck in some limbo and has to relog
23:50.16NeoTronand we had to reset the instance
23:50.37GnarfozArcharodim: xxxx1xxx means he's yogg-saron's pet?
23:51.00Gnarfozanyway, I'll be on yogg tomorrow evening again, I'll test :P
23:51.13Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r407 textures (2 files in 1 directory):
23:51.16Repobug http://www.wowace.com/projects/ice-hud/tickets/20-alt-tabbing-to-windows-mode-breaks-bars-in-osx/
23:51.19Repo- re-converted ArcHUD textures to blp using a tool that produces more reliable results
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23:52.46orionshock526fps.. now that's a recod
23:52.50orionshock*record
23:52.52Archarodimyes a MCed player is a pet
23:53.00Archarodimit's logical
23:53.14Archarodimit's a pet controlled by a NPC
23:53.30Gnarfozyea, somewhat
23:53.59Gnarfozalthough I do wonder why 8xxxxxxx is "none" instead of just nothing
23:54.15Gnarfoz(i.e. 0x1248 instead of 0x8001248)
23:54.25NeoTronso I started watching Heroes. Seems like most people feel like S2 is pretty bad but it's worth to continue watching because of S3/S4.. :P
23:55.11Archarodimit's not none it's raidtarget8
23:55.14GnarfozI found the entire series worth watching
23:55.26Primersame
23:55.30NeoTronI'm getting close to being done with S1
23:55.44NeoTronnetflix HD stream => Tivo HD FTW
23:55.54GnarfozArcharodim: oh, 8000 would have been what I meant, heh. 800 is just "has a skull icon" ^^
23:56.15Gnarfozmissed a 0
23:56.29Archarodimdid you recently tried to dispell a MCed player?
23:56.49Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r408 IceHUD.lua:
23:56.52Repo- made tooltips on the custom bar/counter/cooldown bar more helpful
23:58.00ArcharodimI found a thread about the subject: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16903635844&sid=1&pageNo=2
23:58.09Archarodimit really feels like a bug
23:59.00NeoTronor a special case
23:59.07NeoTronis it 10 man or 25 man  btw?
23:59.32XinhuanParnic
23:59.40Xinhuandid you fix your texcoord problem yet?

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