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| 00:18.26 | Cavisty^gerber | Anybody have problems with agro alert in grid since the patch? |
| 00:20.45 | Repo | 10skg_web: 03Jabouty * r9 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 00:20.49 | Repo | Fixed improper class display, reported via: http://www.wowace.com/projects/skg_web/tickets/1-classes-improperly-displayed-on-site/ |
| 00:20.55 | Repo | 1.7.0-beta Push |
| 00:21.36 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal 043.1.1-1.2.5 * r92 : Tagging as 3.1.1-1.2.5 |
| 00:21.49 | Repo | 10skg_web: 03Jabouty 041,7,0-beta * r10 : Tagging as 1,7,0-beta |
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| 00:23.51 | Repo | 10skg_web: 03Jabouty 041.7.0-beta * r11 : Tagging as 1.7.0-beta |
| 00:24.13 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r175 / (10 files in 5 directories): YurrCombatLog: |
| 00:24.16 | Repo | - switched to Ace 3 instead of tekKonfig/dongle combo(i don't have the time and i am to lazy to bother with this) |
| 00:24.20 | Repo | - moved localization in one big namespace, added options to modify colors, use AceHook-3.0 to hook in blizzard functions |
| 00:24.22 | Repo | - ability miss/parry/etc now have their own color |
| 00:29.26 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r176 / (2 files in 2 directories): YurrCombatLog: |
| 00:29.53 | Repo | - removed Dongle.lua |
| 00:30.40 | Repo | 10furious-raid: 03strangeteeth * r58 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 00:30.43 | Repo | FuriousRaid.lua: |
| 00:30.46 | Repo | - players can now whisper 'furious' to receive a tell outlining their points in each set |
| 00:30.49 | Repo | FuriousRaidUI.lua: |
| 00:30.53 | Repo | - the is now a 'Set Detail' option for the detail pane. It will list all the items awarded under that set and items marked for DE/Bank. The default on the detail pane is now 'Waitlist'. |
| 00:33.26 | Repo | 10furious-raid: 03strangeteeth 04v3.1.3 * r59 : Taggging for minor release. |
| 00:33.29 | Repo | - players can now whisper 'furious' to receive a whisper with the points they have in each set |
| 00:33.32 | Repo | - there is now a 'Set Details' option in the the details pane dropdown allowing one to see the items awarded under a specific set. |
| 00:36.03 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r177 Options (2 files in 2 directories): YurrCombatLog: |
| 00:36.06 | Repo | - removed a debug line |
| 00:36.09 | Repo | - fix the refilter button, it will now set the selected filters and refilter afterwards |
| 00:38.59 | Repo | 10banana-dkp: 03Rabbit * r145 BananaDKP.lua: Bugfix. |
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| 01:05.27 | Zhinjio | Torhal: ping |
| 01:14.05 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r178 YurrCombatLog.lua: YurrCombatLog: |
| 01:14.08 | Repo | - fixed slash command and added ycl as valid slash command |
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| 01:16.34 | SqueeG | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:56.53 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Pongage. |
| 01:58.36 | Zhinjio | hey man... back in a few. |
| 01:59.22 | Torhal | Heh |
| 02:00.30 | SqueeG | TORHAL! |
| 02:00.34 | SqueeG | WHAT DID YOU DO? |
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| 02:01.55 | Repo | 10project-13756: 03Antiarc * r69 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 02:01.57 | Repo | Updated TOC. Added message throttling to deal with rogue throwing weapon spec duplicating interrupt messages. Added raid target icon to interrupt message if the interrupt occurred on the rogue's target. Fixed and issue with the default blizzard UI module |
| 02:05.34 | Torhal | SqueeG: She told me to! |
| 02:05.45 | SqueeG | lol |
| 02:06.36 | Torhal | It's really strange translating a French web page to see what they're saying about my addons. |
| 02:06.41 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 02:06.41 | maqr | so apparently i have to be a 'premium' member to update all my addons now? |
| 02:06.52 | Torhal | maqr: All with one button push, yes. |
| 02:07.06 | maqr | i see |
| 02:07.19 | Torhal | Still better than going to each addon's page and downloading one by one. |
| 02:07.24 | maqr | is being a premium member free? |
| 02:07.47 | Torhal | No, but I think it's like $3 a month |
| 02:08.06 | maqr | well that explains why wowmatrix was killed |
| 02:08.13 | Torhal | No, it doesn't. |
| 02:08.35 | SqueeG | xD |
| 02:08.40 | Torhal | WoWMatrix was killing WoWI and Curse with heavy usage. |
| 02:08.43 | Bruners | everthing needs to be related to wowmatrix |
| 02:08.50 | Torhal | Think, distributed denial of service attack |
| 02:08.52 | Antiarc | Wowmatrix did your mom last night |
| 02:09.36 | SqueeG | nowai! |
| 02:09.45 | maqr | well now i need a better updater |
| 02:09.52 | maqr | any suggestions? |
| 02:09.57 | Bruners | Curse Client |
| 02:10.02 | Antiarc | The curse updater or the wowi updater |
| 02:10.04 | Bruners | or Firefox |
| 02:10.15 | Torhal | Bruners: I was going to suggest Links. |
| 02:10.24 | Bruners | ^^ |
| 02:10.26 | Antiarc | Links doesn't support flash :V |
| 02:10.31 | Torhal | Antiarc: D'oh! |
| 02:10.40 | maqr | well curse client is apparently broken without paying them now, maybe i can script something out to auto-download the addons i use or something |
| 02:10.50 | Antiarc | Yeah, enjoy trying that :P |
| 02:10.55 | Bruners | maqr: not broken |
| 02:10.55 | Xinhuan | not from curse/wowi |
| 02:11.07 | Antiarc | It's still very functional |
| 02:11.09 | Xinhuan | if wowmatrix can't script past curse, what makes you think you can? ;p |
| 02:11.31 | maqr | wowmatrix probably didn't want to |
| 02:11.35 | Antiarc | Hah! |
| 02:11.38 | Bruners | haha |
| 02:11.40 | SqueeG | oh boy :p |
| 02:11.42 | Xinhuan | lol! |
| 02:11.45 | Antiarc | Not very familiar with this scenario, are you? |
| 02:11.53 | maqr | yeah, you guys blocked their client |
| 02:11.58 | Antiarc | also, can a wowace mod change the slug on project-13756 to deadened? |
| 02:12.06 | Xinhuan | sure antiarc |
| 02:12.08 | Xinhuan | link project |
| 02:12.20 | Antiarc | wowmatrix has been working around Curse's attempts to block them for a very long time now. They've been aggressive and parasitic about it. |
| 02:12.25 | Torhal | maqr: Curse Client isn't broken. You just have to update the addons individually instead of all with one button |
| 02:12.28 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-13756 |
| 02:12.40 | maqr | Antiarc: do they have an irc channel? :) |
| 02:12.50 | Torhal | If they did, we'd be banned. |
| 02:12.52 | Torhal | :D |
| 02:12.53 | Antiarc | Not that I'm aware of. They don't communicate with the community at all. |
| 02:13.13 | Antiarc | They're leeches and parasites and don't contribute anything of value back to an otherwise healthy community. |
| 02:13.17 | Torhal | At all. As in, we're wondering if they're real. |
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| 02:13.31 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/deadened/ |
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| 02:13.37 | Antiarc | Thanks! |
| 02:13.38 | Torhal | Or if they're actually the precursor to Skynet. |
| 02:14.40 | SqueeG | i am NOT good at playing my fiance's warlock |
| 02:14.44 | Bruners | kinda cool that they av a client for all 3 operatingsystems |
| 02:14.46 | SqueeG | i HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE her key set up |
| 02:14.49 | Bruners | *have |
| 02:14.53 | maqr | wow, they really don't have any contact info |
| 02:14.58 | Torhal | None |
| 02:15.03 | Antiarc | No, they are extremely evasive |
| 02:15.11 | Torhal | They're all about using other sites' bandwidth and serving up their own ads. |
| 02:15.11 | Antiarc | Extraordinarily evasive. |
| 02:15.25 | Torhal | They don't care about the community, only the ad revenue they get from users |
| 02:15.31 | Antiarc | ---^ |
| 02:15.50 | maqr | well that doesn't sound very nice of them |
| 02:16.02 | Antiarc | Based on my calculations from the numbers I've heard, they were costing Curse something like $20,000/month in bandwidth. |
| 02:16.16 | Antiarc | But nah, Curse are the badguys here :P |
| 02:16.18 | Torhal | They were costing Curse and WoWI immense amounts due to bandwidth |
| 02:16.26 | Torhal | Especially on patch day |
| 02:16.45 | Torhal | Thousands of WM users pinging the fuck out of the servers with the update-all button |
| 02:17.03 | Antiarc | And due to the way the client was written, it was extremely punishing on their servers |
| 02:17.10 | maqr | well that's not good |
| 02:17.20 | maqr | but i still need a way to un-break the curse client |
| 02:17.37 | maqr | are older versions still working? |
| 02:17.39 | Bruners | maqr: just be an author with over 1000 downloads or pay for it |
| 02:17.42 | Xinhuan | well, you could sign up for the curse premium |
| 02:17.54 | maqr | Xinhuan: that's not going to happen |
| 02:18.00 | maqr | Bruners: that might happen |
| 02:18.03 | SunTsu | maqr: I even update by hand. All wowace projects have a rss feed for their files, so you always know what has new files, you can directly see what changed and if something is wort updating |
| 02:18.07 | Torhal | Older versions auto-update to the newest, and even if they didn't, you'd still no longer be premium. |
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| 02:18.49 | SunTsu | maqr: Curse notifies you of changes to your favorites, so basically no need for a updater |
| 02:18.53 | maqr | oh, and it's throttled too |
| 02:19.01 | maqr | wow, really throttled |
| 02:19.11 | Torhal | Grabbing individually from each addon's web page is more throttled. |
| 02:19.43 | SunTsu | So you don't grad all korean updated you really don't care about |
| 02:20.11 | quiescens | what if you're korean |
| 02:20.13 | Torhal | maqr: Yah, I don't care about updates for languages I don't even speak. |
| 02:20.22 | maqr | less throttled, by the looks of it |
| 02:20.29 | SunTsu | quiescens: Then I wouldn't care about deDE updates ;) |
| 02:20.39 | quiescens | you might be bilingual |
| 02:20.39 | quiescens | lol |
| 02:20.43 | Xinhuan | its still faster than manually updating by browser or by hand, maqr |
| 02:20.51 | Torhal | maqr: You're saying it's faster to go to each addon's web page and download from there than it is using the client? |
| 02:21.13 | SqueeG | WTF us that animal that is suppose tio represent X? http://www.kids-1.com/alphabet.html |
| 02:21.26 | maqr | Torhal: yes |
| 02:21.31 | Torhal | SqueeG: Emu? |
| 02:21.50 | SqueeG | ....what? |
| 02:21.52 | Xinhuan | did we also mention that wowmatrix modifies addon code, and stripped donation links/website links? |
| 02:21.53 | Torhal | Kaelten: ^^ |
| 02:21.53 | maqr | Torhal: at least in terms of kb/sec, for larger addons |
| 02:21.57 | quiescens | emu starts with x? |
| 02:21.59 | Xinhuan | that wowmatrix hosts addons illegally? |
| 02:21.59 | quiescens | o.O |
| 02:22.03 | Bruners | SqueeG: Fox |
| 02:22.10 | Torhal | quiescens: XEMU! |
| 02:22.13 | Xinhuan | that wowmatrix ignores requests from authors to remove their addons from being listed? |
| 02:22.13 | Torhal | :D |
| 02:22.20 | SqueeG | I said fox as well xD |
| 02:22.22 | Antiarc | They also have ignored addon author requests to have their mods removed. Authors have had to issue DMCA takedown requests with their hosting provider to get things done. |
| 02:22.24 | Xinhuan | Disables Lua errors option ingame? |
| 02:22.24 | SqueeG | but it doesn't start with X! |
| 02:22.31 | Xinhuan | Modifies all ## Interface numbers to the latest wow version (30100 now)? |
| 02:22.37 | FryGuy- | probably a xerus |
| 02:22.43 | Xinhuan | WowMatrix bought the www.questhelper.com domain name which redirects to the wowmatrix website. The questhelper actual website is www.quest-helper.com. |
| 02:23.05 | SunTsu | SqueeG: google says its a Xerus |
| 02:23.10 | Xinhuan | WowMatrix does not have any utilities/services to allow for authors to update/upload/edit their addon descriptions on the WowMatrix website. |
| 02:23.15 | Xinhuan | Nor do they have forums, feedback threads, bugtracking, SVN/Git source code tracking, or even something as simple as a download count, things that authors appreciate and like. |
| 02:23.55 | maqr | yeah, wowmatrix is apparently not very good |
| 02:24.18 | SqueeG | lmao |
| 02:24.20 | SqueeG | thanks suntsu |
| 02:24.34 | maqr | i guess i could pull from wowace via svn for most of these projects |
| 02:24.36 | SunTsu | SqueeG: FryGuy- was faster than me |
| 02:24.38 | maqr | but not all of them |
| 02:24.51 | SqueeG | lol didn't see that |
| 02:24.57 | SqueeG | that's pretty impressive fryguy :p |
| 02:25.02 | Xinhuan | you certainly can, but it'll probably be slower |
| 02:25.04 | FryGuy- | hm? |
| 02:25.06 | SqueeG | i have NO idea wth those are Lo |
| 02:25.10 | SqueeG | :P* |
| 02:25.14 | FryGuy- | well, google is my friend :) |
| 02:25.14 | Xinhuan | and you'll have to account for each external library manually as well |
| 02:25.15 | SunTsu | maqr: Only works if you pull all the libraries/embeds individually |
| 02:25.29 | maqr | oh, right |
| 02:25.36 | FryGuy- | although, i ought to know it, since my mom worked with kids, and I've seen that chart before |
| 02:25.38 | maqr | does wowinterface's client also suck? |
| 02:25.40 | Antiarc | There are lots of projects on git and hg now, too |
| 02:26.00 | Xinhuan | wowinterface's updater is "abandoned", but it still works, a new one is being written |
| 02:26.02 | FryGuy- | hmm |
| 02:26.11 | FryGuy- | is quest-helper like tourguide? |
| 02:26.16 | Antiarc | yeah, similar idea |
| 02:26.17 | Xinhuan | no |
| 02:26.29 | quiescens | yesno |
| 02:26.42 | Xinhuan | questhelper is an addon that looks at your quest log, and then plots the "best path" on the map for you to complete them |
| 02:26.46 | Xinhuan | and shows you where to complete them |
| 02:26.51 | maqr | Xinhuan: i guess same subscription idea is coming from them? |
| 02:26.56 | Xinhuan | tourguide on the other hand, is a "walkthrough" |
| 02:27.25 | Xinhuan | questhelper doesn't "walkthrough" a zone - it only shows you where and how each quest can be done |
| 02:27.43 | Xinhuan | if u have that quest in your log that is |
| 02:27.56 | maqr | qh has been around forever |
| 02:28.15 | Xinhuan | no maqr, their new updater will be free |
| 02:28.15 | Dark_Elf | tourguide u pretty much have to check the quests u want it to show |
| 02:28.29 | Xinhuan | and will allow plugins for other sites |
| 02:28.37 | Xinhuan | but it will be ad-supported |
| 02:28.53 | maqr | Xinhuan: i'm ok with that, i can likely just disable the ads |
| 02:29.09 | maqr | Xinhuan: any idea when it's planned for release? |
| 02:29.10 | Xinhuan | unless you modify your hosts file, its unlikely you can disable any ad |
| 02:29.24 | maqr | that's how i was planning on doing it |
| 02:29.52 | Xinhuan | and the client can be coded to not do anything unless an ad is successfuly downloaded and shown |
| 02:30.13 | SunTsu | I always disable any ads - by not paying attention if there is any.. |
| 02:30.14 | Antiarc | Bandwidth is free! :V |
| 02:30.20 | maqr | Xinhuan: it could be |
| 02:30.34 | maqr | pretty unlikely though |
| 02:31.05 | Xinhuan | considering modifying the hosts file to block ads was on several prominent threads on the UI forums |
| 02:31.10 | Xinhuan | i'll say its quite highly likely |
| 02:31.11 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: Something like privoxy could help, I think, which substitues ads by local images |
| 02:31.44 | Xinhuan | that would be way too advanced for the average user :p |
| 02:32.11 | maqr | at that point you might as well just modify the client |
| 02:32.31 | sylvanaar | how do you disable snapping in bt4? |
| 02:32.44 | Xinhuan | hold down Alt |
| 02:33.06 | Xinhuan | (i'm just guessing btw, i don't use bt4 :P) |
| 02:33.19 | maqr | i think it is alt, actually, or some modifier |
| 02:34.23 | sylvanaar | actually i dont either |
| 02:34.40 | sylvanaar | but there is something you click, and it brings up an options panel with one option |
| 02:34.43 | sylvanaar | idk |
| 02:35.04 | quiescens | well lets just hypothetically pretend that it worked and leave it at that |
| 02:35.05 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 02:35.18 | Xinhuan | stabs quiescens with a pillow |
| 02:35.21 | quiescens | dies. |
| 02:37.06 | Xinhuan | if you "wrote" an "addon" to overwrite Sara's screams in Ulduar in the Data\ directory with a blank mp3 file, i think people would download it |
| 02:37.18 | Xinhuan | i know i would |
| 02:37.28 | Axodious | i would |
| 02:37.54 | Bruners | why do people use WoWmatrix? |
| 02:38.08 | Xinhuan | people use wowmatrix because, its multi-site |
| 02:38.09 | quiescens | I wouldn't be surprised if blizzard deemed it technically a violation of the terms of use |
| 02:38.12 | quiescens | lol |
| 02:38.12 | Antiarc | Convenience |
| 02:38.18 | Bruners | "8 AddOns need to be updated." |
| 02:38.20 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 02:38.25 | Zhinjio | Torhal: you there still? |
| 02:38.33 | Bruners | all of them would be updated to former versions |
| 02:38.42 | Antiarc | Replacing sounds is technically a no-no, but they left the ability to do it in after they removed the ability to model-swap |
| 02:39.04 | Xinhuan | no addon updater would be able to install such an "addon" correctly, anyhow |
| 02:39.11 | Antiarc | well, it could |
| 02:39.15 | SunTsu | sylvanaar: odd, I don't find any option to turn of snapping in bt4 |
| 02:39.16 | Antiarc | It would just have to know that it's not an addon |
| 02:39.28 | Antiarc | The curse client could do it with .pkgmeta and the right brains about it. |
| 02:39.29 | Xinhuan | then it wouldn't exactly be an addon updater ;p |
| 02:39.52 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if it even has such brains |
| 02:41.03 | Xinhuan | i read that the CC nags the user to upgrade to premium every 2 clicks though |
| 02:45.11 | Bruners | *testing* |
| 02:45.42 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yes |
| 02:45.58 | SqueeG | he lies! |
| 02:46.00 | SqueeG | it's a bot! |
| 02:46.11 | Bruners | Xinhuan: no nags here |
| 02:47.13 | Bruners | 14 installs and no nags |
| 02:48.58 | Zhinjio | Torhal: I am trying to "swap" my tooltip, but the :Clear isn't doing it. Its keeping column layouts, backgrounds, etc. |
| 02:49.11 | Zhinjio | do I need to :Release and :New to get it to swap properly? |
| 02:50.10 | Torhal | Release and Acquire? More than likely. If that still keeps the layout (which I think it will) then acquire with a different name |
| 02:50.54 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 02:51.05 | Zhinjio | I'll give it a try, and we'll see. |
| 02:51.20 | Dark_Elf | 3.1.2 gonna have equipment manager finally |
| 02:52.00 | maqr | wonders what 'you dont have space to track' means |
| 02:52.07 | Dark_Elf | gee i hope tuesday isnt another 12 hour patch day lol |
| 02:52.18 | Axodious | did they fix the lame bag organization it caused? |
| 02:52.19 | Torhal | Screw the equipment manager. Ackis wants his custom dances. |
| 02:52.25 | Bruners | http://www.wowmatrix.com/testimonials/ |
| 02:52.32 | Axodious | aka putting items it swaps in first available slot |
| 02:52.43 | Bruners | did they really remove the word curse on the 5th testi? |
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| 02:53.12 | Wobin | Bruners: Who really cares? =P |
| 02:53.22 | Axodious | ^ |
| 02:53.56 | Torhal | Wobin: I think he's writing a thesis on the censoring of curse words, and I believe that would also cover Curse. |
| 02:54.03 | Torhal | whistles. |
| 02:54.15 | maqr | Torhal: wowmatrix is really trying to download from curse and failing? |
| 02:54.34 | Torhal | I'm not sure they've even tried in the past couple of weeks. |
| 02:54.40 | Wobin | we'll find out next time Arrowmaster is bored =) |
| 02:55.05 | Bruners | Wobin: nobody :P |
| 02:55.08 | Torhal | Now they're simply hosting old versions of GPL-licensed addons, since the newest versions aren't GPL, and telling their users to nag all of the authors who they can't host themselves |
| 02:55.31 | Torhal | Which is another example of them not communicating with the community: They're sending their USERS after us. |
| 02:55.37 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * f41b864 Modules/ (3 files in 3 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated) |
| 02:55.40 | Repo | f41b864: Use a wrapper for caching in PowerBar. No real change, just looks |
| 02:55.43 | Repo | 49d4de5: Account for pet units for the fast power performance improvements. |
| 02:55.46 | Repo | 98d93c1: Fix auto hide of the castbar that was broken by the performance tuning. |
| 02:55.48 | Xinhuan | and for every email i receive, i send back a cut-and-paste email |
| 02:55.49 | Repo | bed0bf4: Performance improvement to CastBarLatency module. |
| 02:55.49 | Wobin | pft, WM have burnt their bridges long ago =) |
| 02:56.00 | maqr | Torhal: i must be missing something, because it looks pretty simple to download directly from curse if you send the right cookie |
| 02:56.17 | Wobin | maqr: It's getting the location of the file that's the issue |
| 02:56.25 | Wobin | perhaps |
| 02:56.54 | quiescens | chocolate chip cookie? |
| 02:57.19 | Torhal | quiescens: Crunchy fingernail cookie? |
| 02:57.46 | Bruners | they could just make a premium account and make the WM client log in to that account ? |
| 02:57.49 | maqr | Wobin: well, the link expires after one download, it looks like |
| 02:59.15 | maqr | Wobin: which probably means the link is being generated through the flash applet and signed by the server, so if you could pull the link out of the flash, you'd have a valid one-time-use link |
| 02:59.21 | Torhal | Bruners: And when a single account gets 23497024395683475 downloads.....:D |
| 02:59.27 | Bruners | hehe |
| 03:00.01 | Bruners | if WM wants to exist they need to let authors maintain their own addons |
| 03:00.11 | Wobin | maqr: What are the chances of being able to pull the link out of flash with Runtime Revolution =) |
| 03:00.42 | Wobin | Bruners: But WM is -fixing- my addons for me! How can I say no? |
| 03:00.50 | Torhal | Wobin: Probably about the same as doing so with Dance Dance Revolution. |
| 03:00.55 | maqr | Wobin: probably pretty good, but i haven't tried yet |
| 03:01.13 | maqr | Wobin: did you write this? :p |
| 03:01.18 | Wobin | maqr: Good luck to you. |
| 03:01.26 | Wobin | I will never host any addons on WM |
| 03:01.32 | sylvanaar | SunTsu there apparrently is one |
| 03:01.35 | Wobin | simply for that fact |
| 03:02.00 | Torhal | If their client was written in COBOL, I'd be all over it. |
| 03:02.07 | Wobin | maqr: The Curse flash thing? No. |
| 03:02.22 | Wobin | is in no way affiliated with Curse |
| 03:03.04 | Shefki | So for anyone that cares, the changes we've made to PB4 in the last few days have improved idle performance by 1042% by my tests. |
| 03:03.15 | Torhal | Shefki: Sweet. |
| 03:03.18 | Shefki | Yay for performance tuning. |
| 03:03.24 | Xinhuan | how exactly is that measured |
| 03:03.25 | Torhal | Maybe I'll get more than 15FPS in raids now |
| 03:03.26 | SqueeG | that's crazy performance fain :p |
| 03:03.34 | Wobin | So, Pitbull on Speed? =) |
| 03:03.40 | SqueeG | Torhal: I rarely ever get more than 15 fps :p |
| 03:03.44 | quiescens | but idling isn't when I need performance |
| 03:03.46 | quiescens | lol |
| 03:03.51 | SqueeG | night all! |
| 03:03.53 | Shefki | Torhal: I'm not sure that the changes we've made will improve much in raids. |
| 03:03.56 | Zhinjio | Shefki: thats awesome. |
| 03:04.00 | Xinhuan | did you really mean "reduced cpu usage by 1-1/1042%" |
| 03:04.01 | Torhal | SqueeG: Sell your GF's system, buy yourself a better rig. |
| 03:04.04 | Shefki | Torhal: I haven't gotten to tuning that. |
| 03:04.12 | Xinhuan | but just decided to go with the former number to make it sound impressive? |
| 03:04.24 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Out of 60 seconds, we used to use 4000 ms and we're using 350 ms now. |
| 03:04.31 | Torhal | Shefki: That was a minor joke. You said "idle performance", so I said raid... |
| 03:05.00 | Xinhuan | so you should be saying we reduced idle cpu usage by 91.25%! |
| 03:05.12 | Wobin | that's NEGATIVE! |
| 03:05.23 | Wobin | you want POSITIVE terms! Like Improving! |
| 03:05.28 | Shefki | Umm percentage reduction is PR = (A-B)/A*100 as far as I know. |
| 03:05.33 | Shefki | Where A is the larger number. |
| 03:07.32 | Xinhuan | so is my % wrong? |
| 03:07.38 | Xinhuan | :p |
| 03:08.41 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic 043.1.3 * r560 : Tagging as 3.1.3 |
| 03:08.43 | Repo | - Fix another typo |
| 03:08.47 | Repo | - Add cast warning for Poison Nova (Slad'ran) |
| 03:09.00 | maqr | Wobin: you're right, it is the link, i don't think it's cookie-dependent |
| 03:10.28 | Shefki | Wobin: ckknight wanted me to improve us into negative time. :P |
| 03:10.55 | Wobin | Pitbull 4: GOES BACK IN TIME! |
| 03:11.23 | Shefki | We were comparing it against PB3 |
| 03:11.50 | Shefki | And it's same or better now. |
| 03:12.42 | ckknight | better! |
| 03:13.09 | ckknight | <.< |
| 03:13.10 | ckknight | >.> |
| 03:13.36 | Torhal | I'd just like to know how the hell the zipfile for the latest Volumizer is 11.5Kb, and the zipfile for the previous version was 13Kb, and I've ADDED code since... |
| 03:14.03 | Shefki | Changelog clipping? |
| 03:14.12 | Torhal | Ah, didn't take that into account. |
| 03:14.16 | Torhal | Makes sense. |
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| 03:15.49 | FryGuy- | maybe different encodings |
| 03:15.54 | ckknight | Torhal: we're secretly optimizing your code |
| 03:15.55 | ckknight | btw |
| 03:16.00 | ckknight | :P |
| 03:16.09 | Zhinjio | ckknight: mine next!!ooo ooo! |
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| 03:18.41 | Zhinjio | Torhal: are numCols and alignments required in the acquire call or can I just do that via setcolumnlayout after? |
| 03:20.09 | Zhinjio | and further, if I release/acquire every time |
| 03:20.27 | Zhinjio | is it going to properly release memory or am I going to eat memory this way? |
| 03:24.40 | Zhinjio | and I'll take your advice about changing the tooltip name |
| 03:25.16 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Either way is fine |
| 03:25.31 | Torhal | Zhinjio: If you're using the same names (keys, doesn't have to be strings) you'll be fine |
| 03:25.42 | Torhal | It grabs the frams from the heap by key |
| 03:25.47 | Zhinjio | k |
| 03:25.48 | Torhal | s/frams/frames/ |
| 03:25.58 | Zhinjio | my tooltip key is MODNAME .. "TT" .. index |
| 03:26.10 | Zhinjio | and index gets incremented every time the toggle is hit |
| 03:26.30 | Torhal | If you're just wanting to swap two tooltips.... |
| 03:26.31 | Zhinjio | is that what you meant by using unique names? |
| 03:26.40 | Zhinjio | ah, hmm. |
| 03:26.52 | Torhal | Yes, but if it's always getting incremented, you're generating a new tooltip every time, which will eat memory |
| 03:26.53 | Zhinjio | guh |
| 03:27.05 | Zhinjio | ok. I can that. |
| 03:27.10 | Torhal | Especially since frames aren't GC'd |
| 03:27.46 | Zhinjio | I can do that. |
| 03:30.03 | Bruners | 75% of 25 is 18.5 ? |
| 03:30.11 | quiescens | 1+1=3 |
| 03:30.33 | Torhal | Bruners: 18.75 |
| 03:30.53 | Shefki | Wish there was a way to really destroy a frame. |
| 03:32.11 | Zhinjio | Torhal: lets say I do a setcolumnlayout with 2, left, right |
| 03:32.32 | Zhinjio | if addcolumn(center) after that, is that dumb? |
| 03:32.54 | Zhinjio | does it alter/add to the layout I set? |
| 03:33.11 | Zhinjio | or do I want to setcolumn layout at the end with all the , center, center, center, etc... |
| 03:34.35 | Torhal | You can do either, AddColumn just prepends afterward. |
| 03:34.53 | Torhal | AddColumn is actually used in SetColumnLayout() if there isn't an nth column. |
| 03:35.09 | Zhinjio | ok, good. |
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| 03:44.20 | Zhinjio | gah! I broksded it. |
| 03:44.54 | Zhinjio | I dislike that it fails silently. |
| 03:45.01 | Zhinjio | makes debugging fucking impossible. |
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| 03:48.16 | Torhal | Zhinjio: What fails silently? |
| 03:48.44 | Zhinjio | like, for example. |
| 03:48.53 | Zhinjio | calling SetCell with a colSpan > numCols |
| 03:48.57 | Zhinjio | it just doesn't display |
| 03:49.00 | Zhinjio | no error, no nothing |
| 03:49.53 | Zhinjio | so I end up searching for the SetCell call that didn't use GetCOlumnCount or what have you |
| 03:50.48 | Torhal | And there can be a veritable fuckton of SetCell calls. |
| 03:51.05 | Zhinjio | righgt |
| 03:51.12 | Zhinjio | thus, frustrating debugging. |
| 03:51.25 | Zhinjio | like right now. |
| 03:51.28 | Zhinjio | grumps./ |
| 03:51.35 | SunTsu | Zhinjio: You are not some kind of unixoid OS? Or having cygwin aroung? |
| 03:51.39 | SunTsu | around even |
| 03:52.01 | Torhal | Aye, grep is your friend |
| 03:52.08 | Zhinjio | I know where all the setcell calls are. |
| 03:52.20 | Zhinjio | thats not my problem. |
| 03:52.27 | SunTsu | grep SetCell $file /dev/null |grep -v GetColumnCount |
| 03:52.30 | Zhinjio | its figuring out which one isn't using the column count corectly |
| 03:52.41 | Zhinjio | they aren't on the same line. |
| 03:52.52 | Zhinjio | I usually do a numCols = GetColumnCount() first |
| 03:52.59 | Zhinjio | and then use numCols in my SetCell calls |
| 03:53.00 | Zhinjio | anyway |
| 03:53.06 | Zhinjio | yes, of course I have unix variants around |
| 03:53.10 | Antiarc | oRA2's tankboxes don't seem to be responding to SurfaceControl overrides for whatever reason |
| 03:53.12 | Zhinjio | I'm typing at you from one of thenm |
| 03:53.49 | SunTsu | Zhinjio: and in cases it is broken you still have numCols with fixed values? |
| 03:54.24 | Zhinjio | I honestly don't think its a setcell causing the problem now. I think its the way I'm adding columns above thats not syncing up right. |
| 03:54.40 | Zhinjio | adding debug lines in now to see what the values are at various point |
| 03:54.42 | Zhinjio | s |
| 03:55.00 | Kaelten | I got pinged? |
| 03:55.10 | Zhinjio | Hey man. |
| 03:55.12 | Zhinjio | not by me |
| 03:55.14 | quiescens | run away before they get you kaelten |
| 03:55.21 | Kaelten | heya zhin |
| 03:55.29 | Kaelten | quiescens: heh, I'm about tired of the drama |
| 03:55.52 | SunTsu | Unless that ping was weeks ago, it was not me neither |
| 03:56.01 | quiescens | maybe it was o.o |
| 03:56.11 | Torhal | Kaelten: I pinged you awhile ago because maqr said the non-premium throttling was slower than downloading manually from the addon pages :) |
| 03:56.33 | Kaelten | SunTsu: oh? did you ever get taken care of? |
| 03:57.02 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r187 Config.lua: Fixed typos in earlier fix. |
| 03:57.05 | Kaelten | Torhal: hrm, not so, logged in normal users get one teir, anon on another and premium ona third |
| 03:57.08 | SunTsu | Kaelten: Sure, rDNS of curse's/wowace's mailservers got fixed some time ago. |
| 03:57.16 | Kaelten | SunTsu: ah, cool :) |
| 03:57.28 | quiescens | I doubt the throttling is anything particularly noticable except under load |
| 03:57.38 | Torhal | Kaelten: I didn't think it would be so, either, since there'd be no damn point in using the CC, but I figured you should read it anyway |
| 03:57.57 | Kaelten | quiescens: yeah, we limit normal users to roughyl the speed of a t1 |
| 03:58.00 | SunTsu | Kaelten: thanks, BTW. |
| 03:58.02 | Kaelten | aka low end dsl |
| 03:58.05 | Kaelten | SunTsu ;) |
| 04:04.55 | sylvanaar | constant table overflow |
| 04:04.59 | sylvanaar | thats a new one |
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| 04:06.08 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/healinc/. HealInc. DathRarhek (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 04:06.27 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/tankmastery/. TankMastery. ahmetqw (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 04:06.35 | Mec | so I saw LibSimpleOptions, but is there anything that is better documented on how to make a blizzard option pannel? |
| 04:08.10 | Zhinjio | well fuck me runnin. It doesn't even get to my debug lines |
| 04:08.12 | Zhinjio | damnit |
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| 04:09.05 | maqr | Wobin: got it |
| 04:13.25 | Zhinjio | alright Torhal, I'm failing to grok this. do you have a few minutes to load this and see wtf I'm doing wrong? |
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| 04:15.26 | Kaelten | Zhinjio: l2code? |
| 04:15.26 | Kaelten | :D |
| 04:15.36 | Zhinjio | blow me. |
| 04:15.37 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 04:15.42 | Kaelten | lol, sorry your not my type |
| 04:15.50 | Zhinjio | thats not what yr mom said. |
| 04:15.57 | Kaelten | dude, you can have her |
| 04:16.00 | Zhinjio | bah. I fail. |
| 04:16.09 | quiescens | ums |
| 04:16.10 | quiescens | lol |
| 04:16.18 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:16.25 | Kaelten | Zhinjio: so what's wrong? |
| 04:17.44 | Zhinjio | the release/acquire on the tooltip does *not* reset any of its column information, even after a new setcolumnlayout call |
| 04:17.58 | Zhinjio | and I'm just adding more and more columns ... anyway, I'll work it out eventually |
| 04:18.39 | quiescens | sledgehammer |
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| 04:19.29 | SunTsu | .o0( "Trust me, I know what I'm doing" ) |
| 04:22.47 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Pastey? |
| 04:23.31 | maqr | well i figured out how to download directly from curse, but it'd be more of a pain in the ass to write my own client than it would be to hack theirs or just write an addon that gets downloaded 1000 times |
| 04:23.54 | Torhal | Kaelten: You've succeeded. |
| 04:24.03 | Zhinjio | Torhal: BetterGuildControl... lemme push this. |
| 04:24.06 | Torhal | The world is ripe for the picking. |
| 04:24.16 | Kaelten | Torhal: pardon? |
| 04:24.26 | Torhal | Kaelten: What maqr said :) |
| 04:24.29 | Repo | 10betterguildcontrol: 03Zhinjio * r10 BetterGuildControl.lua: BGC : |
| 04:24.32 | Repo | - fucked up build |
| 04:24.32 | maqr | Torhal: it's not a very good scheme either |
| 04:24.39 | maqr | Torhal: here, i'll post their hash code for you |
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| 04:25.59 | maqr | actually i'll post the whole code: http://pastebin.ca/1411806 |
| 04:26.22 | maqr | Torhal: as best i can tell, the hash function stays constant no matter how many times you download the swf, but they could always change it to obfuscate it more if someone bothers to write a client to emulate it |
| 04:26.57 | Kaelten | maqr: out of curiosity how long did it take you to reverse that code |
| 04:27.29 | quiescens | ultimately its never going to be particularly difficult |
| 04:27.53 | maqr | Kaelten: it's just a dumped output from a swf decompiler, it took me longer to poke around in wireshark and determine you weren't doing per-user or cookie checks |
| 04:28.21 | maqr | Kaelten: once i figured out it was just a url, and i saw what was coming in through the param, i knew the link was in the swf, and for some reason you decided to make a hash to get the link |
| 04:28.23 | Kaelten | maqr: oh? which decompiler? |
| 04:28.30 | maqr | Kaelten: sothink's |
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| 04:28.38 | Kaelten | hrm, I tested with that one |
| 04:28.41 | Kaelten | our obfuscation beat them |
| 04:28.47 | maqr | Kaelten: it'd actually be easier for you to just embed the url there, btw, there's no point in hashing |
| 04:28.57 | maqr | Kaelten: i mean, by the time you can decompile the actionscript, you've already got the hash |
| 04:29.10 | Kaelten | the hash is more about having the links expire than anything else |
| 04:29.11 | maqr | Kaelten: what i'd do is just send expiring links hashed from the server side |
| 04:29.24 | maqr | Kaelten: yeah, but you've actually made it less secure by doing it that way, since now i can sign anything i want |
| 04:29.31 | Kaelten | not so |
| 04:29.32 | maqr | Kaelten: you should hash on the server side, then send the hashed link |
| 04:29.41 | Kaelten | that's less secure |
| 04:29.49 | Kaelten | what's to stop anyone from requesting a url |
| 04:30.04 | maqr | Kaelten: your swf obfuscation, which is the weak link anyway |
| 04:30.26 | maqr | Kaelten: at least then you'd have to write a tool to unpack the swf file every time and get the link out |
| 04:30.47 | Kaelten | na, you could do that without even decompiling the flash |
| 04:30.50 | maqr | Kaelten: in this case, i can manufacture links with nothing more than the html (at least, i assume, i haven't tried it) |
| 04:30.59 | Kaelten | my guess is that they released a patch to the button without obfuscating it |
| 04:31.01 | maqr | Kaelten: sure, if you're in the browser |
| 04:31.32 | Kaelten | na just wireshark were the server side hashes came from |
| 04:31.56 | maqr | Kaelten: that's how i started... but you can just expire those |
| 04:31.57 | maqr | and you do |
| 04:32.11 | Kaelten | yeah but anyone could pull them |
| 04:32.19 | maqr | well they only exist in the swf |
| 04:32.30 | maqr | by the time they're in wireshark, they're already about to expire |
| 04:32.51 | Kaelten | ... yes... but my point is if you can query the server for the hash anyone can |
| 04:33.35 | maqr | Kaelten: well, yeah, but they just expire then... the way it is now, i should be able to set any arbitrary time i want, then sign my own url using that actionscript |
| 04:34.41 | maqr | Kaelten: in other words, if you sent &t=some_time&v=signature where only the server knows how to make 'signature', to counter that, i'd have to request a new swf each time and decode the new url each time |
| 04:34.57 | maqr | what you have now is way more exploitable, if i'm reading it right, since i'd never have to make that first request, i can go straight to the download link |
| 04:36.20 | Kaelten | sounds like you're talking about making swf files on the fly |
| 04:36.58 | Repo | 10fubar2broker: 03HunterZ 04r83-release * r83 : |
| 04:37.01 | Repo | - Create OnDoubleClick() handler method in the broker plugin if one exists in the FuBar plugin, even though no displays that I know of currently implement double-click functionality. |
| 04:37.03 | maqr | well you could just send in the signed url with the param |
| 04:37.05 | Repo | - Log a warning message to the default chat frame if a FuBar plugin has an OnDoubleClick() handler to inform the user of the already existing middle-click -> double-click hack. |
| 04:37.07 | Groktar | so i take it wowmatrix got cornholed? |
| 04:37.08 | Repo | - nolib support added/cleaned up by zuz666. |
| 04:37.10 | Repo | - Only call FuBarPlugin:UpdateText() from FuBarPlugin:Update() if the F2B-created LDB plugin is a data source rather than a launcher in order to fix DockingStation warnings. This shouldn't hurt anything since F2B was only setting the text to the plugin name for launchers anyways. |
| 04:37.27 | maqr | Kaelten: you'd just obfuscate it, then use the swf to decode it |
| 04:37.43 | Kaelten | cornholed? |
| 04:38.04 | maqr | Kaelten: in other words, you don't want to expose the hashing function, which you have... instead you'd rather make it a pain in the ass to decode the url |
| 04:38.15 | Groktar | can't download from curse anymore |
| 04:38.26 | Hirsute | Groktar: Some time ago. |
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| 04:38.39 | Hirsute | They got stopped from stealing Curse's bandwidth, yes. |
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| 04:39.40 | Groktar | i don't know what the wowmatrix people were thinking |
| 04:39.42 | maqr | Kaelten: say you sent some random-looking encoded param... to make it simple, base64 |
| 04:39.57 | maqr | Kaelten: that'd contain the url, then your swf would just decode it (since you know how it was encoded) |
| 04:40.35 | maqr | Kaelten: the advantage to that is that if someone breaks it, you can just change the swf downloader, and you've broken all the hacked clients |
| 04:40.57 | Groktar | so if you put a key in a swf there's no way to get it out? |
| 04:40.59 | maqr | Kaelten: at the same time, you wouldn't be exposing your hashing functions (so that we can't sign our own urls) |
| 04:41.16 | maqr | Groktar: i think you walked in late :) |
| 04:41.21 | quiescens | there's always a way, its just a matter of how hard |
| 04:41.45 | maqr | well right now the protection is done poorly |
| 04:41.53 | Groktar | i scrolled up just far enough to see that you figured out a way to do it |
| 04:41.56 | maqr | but since i don't know the wowmatrix guy's irc channel, i'm rambling here :p |
| 04:42.00 | Groktar | download via direct url, that is |
| 04:42.07 | Kaelten | Groktar: they don't have one |
| 04:42.08 | maqr | mostly, yeah, i haven't written the proof of concept, because i'm lazy |
| 04:42.16 | Kaelten | maqr: that's a matter of opinion honestly. |
| 04:42.25 | Kaelten | all protection schemes are breakable |
| 04:42.40 | maqr | Kaelten: yeah, but i can just sign my own urls here... it's really totally backwards |
| 04:42.52 | Kaelten | yeah but we can change what the value of valid is |
| 04:42.55 | Kaelten | er |
| 04:42.58 | Kaelten | meaning of valid is |
| 04:43.06 | Groktar | ya, but if you have a new protection scheme ready to go the moment wowmatrix figures it out and releases a new client |
| 04:43.14 | maqr | Kaelten: but then you'd have to update the swf file too, right? |
| 04:43.19 | Groktar | they've just wasted a month of their time for no reward |
| 04:43.37 | Kaelten | maqr: yep, but there is nothing stopping us from doing a shifting system |
| 04:43.51 | quiescens | groktar: but you've also wasted a bit of your own time working on the new system |
| 04:43.52 | Kaelten | there's just no need to do it yet |
| 04:43.54 | quiescens | arms race |
| 04:44.03 | Kaelten | quiescens: until the arms build themselves |
| 04:44.19 | maqr | Kaelten: i agree, but it's still fundamentally wrong to do the url signing client-sided... your only protection at all is your swf obfuscation, so you should be using encoding instead |
| 04:44.35 | Kaelten | maqr: then it's as easy as breaking the decoding method |
| 04:44.39 | Kaelten | which is essentially the same |
| 04:44.54 | Kaelten | I think net affect would be about the same |
| 04:44.55 | maqr | Kaelten: exactly, which just means all the hashing bit is ineffecient and looks silly to someone reversing it :) |
| 04:45.06 | Kaelten | perfect :) |
| 04:45.07 | Torhal | Skynet in ur swf, nuking ur addonz! |
| 04:45.13 | maqr | Kaelten: can i have a free premium account now? :p |
| 04:45.34 | Groktar | he's threatening you kaelten! |
| 04:45.42 | Torhal | Cornholio? |
| 04:45.42 | quiescens | lol |
| 04:45.52 | Groktar | "give me premium account before i send my code to wowmatrix!" |
| 04:46.07 | SunTsu | .o0( The first guy asking for a premium account for NOT writing something *g* ) |
| 04:46.17 | maqr | Kaelten: and actually, it's somewhat worse, now that i think about it |
| 04:46.32 | maqr | Kaelten: because if the urls were signed server-side, someone would have to extract them each time |
| 04:46.49 | maqr | Kaelten: as it is now, one person just needs to write one url-generator with the hash, and it's reusable |
| 04:47.19 | maqr | in fact, it could already be being done, and you probably wouldn't notice :p |
| 04:47.30 | Kaelten | we're well aware of that vulnability. We're also prepared to break it if needed. |
| 04:47.46 | Kaelten | Well frankly, if it's low enough of a usage were we wouldn't notice.... |
| 04:48.09 | quiescens | returning an expirable hash from the server isn't going to be great either unless you do something fancy |
| 04:48.26 | Kaelten | quiescens: fancier than what we do now probably |
| 04:48.43 | maqr | Kaelten: but i really don't want to have to write a new client just to update my addons :p |
| 04:48.58 | Kaelten | cool, we're providing several :) |
| 04:49.37 | SunTsu | Kaelten: he did all that because he found CC non-premium unbearable |
| 04:49.49 | Kaelten | oh? |
| 04:49.50 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:50.00 | Kaelten | why, what made it unbearable? |
| 04:50.00 | SunTsu | In, like, a few hours |
| 04:50.14 | Kaelten | yeah, I'm thikning someone released a copy of the button without obfuscation |
| 04:50.42 | maqr | Kaelten: eh? i just pulled it right off the site, twice too, to make sure you weren't dynamically changing the swf |
| 04:50.49 | Kaelten | yeah |
| 04:51.02 | Kaelten | I've ran the obfuscated button through sothinks |
| 04:51.06 | Kaelten | it doesn't look anything like that |
| 04:51.13 | maqr | was the obfuscated one posted? |
| 04:51.26 | Kaelten | yeah I'm thinking someone pushed an update |
| 04:51.31 | Kaelten | and forgot to obfuscate it |
| 04:51.40 | maqr | well my sothink version is just a few days old |
| 04:51.44 | maqr | i can try again if you want to push a new swf up |
| 04:51.52 | Kaelten | you did it off of curse.com? |
| 04:51.54 | maqr | yup |
| 04:52.00 | Kaelten | I don't have access to that server |
| 04:52.08 | Kaelten | try it on the one on curseforge |
| 04:52.09 | maqr | want to put up another button somewhere? i can dl it |
| 04:52.16 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r122 VendorData.lua: Updated vendor data for 3.1.1. |
| 04:52.19 | maqr | the technique *is* still fundamentally flawed, btw, even if the obfuscation works |
| 04:53.18 | maqr | Kaelten: the other, and more likely to be exploited vulnerability, btw, would be if the server allows more than one connection from the curse client at once |
| 04:53.23 | maqr | Kaelten: my guess is that it does, but i haven't tried it |
| 04:54.04 | maqr | Kaelten: in that case, you just reverse the client and take out the no-premium protection, and the requests would go through fine... i haven't looked at that at all, but it'd probably be more practical than rolling a new clietn |
| 04:54.27 | quiescens | that's easier to fix though |
| 04:54.36 | maqr | about the same |
| 04:54.46 | Torhal | Oh, but he should really roll a new client anyway, since there's no native Linux version.... |
| 04:54.48 | Torhal | winks. |
| 04:54.50 | maqr | haah |
| 04:54.56 | quiescens | the side doesn't require a login |
| 04:55.00 | quiescens | .. |
| 04:55.01 | quiescens | site* |
| 04:55.58 | maqr | quiescens: well, my goal is just to have an updating client that doesn't suck |
| 04:56.41 | Kaelten | so why does it suck again? |
| 04:56.43 | Kaelten | just curios |
| 04:57.12 | maqr | Kaelten: well it used to suck because it was buggy and crashed a lot, then you guys fixed that, now it sucks because i can't 'update all' without paying |
| 04:57.56 | quiescens | it would be relatively trivial to limit it to one connection from any given login, so it would move it up the chain a little, to the "how hard is it to make multiple accounts" level |
| 04:58.44 | maqr | Kaelten: i think you could make a strong argument that giving away the auto-updating bit for free would be better overall |
| 04:59.13 | Kaelten | well I'm pushing them to reaxmine that last bit |
| 04:59.14 | maqr | Kaelten: you're probably going to end up spending more resources preventing it than you'll take in from a begrudging client base |
| 04:59.27 | maqr | gamers are notoriously cheap :p |
| 05:00.05 | maqr | Kaelten: i mean, how many hours did it cost you guys to come up with that scheme? and i reversed it in about an hour? and all you need is one guy from wowmatrix to figure out the same thing and publish it? |
| 05:00.24 | Hirsute | So, because you've got questionable ethics, something's wrong with Curse? |
| 05:00.36 | maqr | it just doesn't make any sense, it just sucks for both the users and curse, and wowmatrix or someone else will come out as the leeching winner |
| 05:01.03 | maqr | Hirsute: i don't have questionable ethics, i'm just pointing out what exists... questionable would be me writing a client serving my own ads and making money off of it |
| 05:01.13 | Kaelten | oh trust me I know gamers can be cheap |
| 05:01.14 | maqr | which, apparently, is what wowmatrix does |
| 05:01.26 | Hirsute | Questionable is attempting to get around the restrictions that Curse has put in place for any reason. |
| 05:01.42 | maqr | i think you misunderstood my point then :/ |
| 05:01.53 | Hirsute | ie-You reverse engineering their download restrictions to be able to update all without paying. |
| 05:02.14 | quiescens | and then telling them about it |
| 05:03.31 | Bruners | he found a glitch and told the man behind it |
| 05:03.38 | Torhal | How's that bad? |
| 05:04.00 | maqr | and i'm probably going to write an addon later to get my free premium account, which is more free content for curse |
| 05:04.01 | Torhal | I'm gonna start telling people that give me bug reports that they're scumbags. |
| 05:04.07 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:04.31 | maqr | i just think the whole thing is stupid, ineffecient, and makes curse (which i otherwise like) look really bad |
| 05:05.26 | Torhal | I agree with that - I'm seeing a bevvy of posts that say, basically, "Curse killed WM so they could launch their premium service!" |
| 05:05.39 | Torhal | Not true, but the timing WAS fucked up. |
| 05:05.47 | Hirsute | Oh, the reporting to curse is good, but the "well, my goal is just to have an updating client that doesn't suck" seemed to me to say that the reporting was an afterthought, after working to get around curse's limits. But hey, I could have misinterpreted. |
| 05:06.13 | Kaelten | regardless fo the timing or benefit gained by blocking wm, it was a move to cut costs |
| 05:06.25 | Kaelten | we're wanting to make sure we're around in 3 years |
| 05:06.58 | maqr | Kaelten: i'm sure you can come up with a better way than crippling your client |
| 05:07.07 | Torhal | Shoulda, woulda, coulda. Just saying what the new ammunition is for the WM fanbois |
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| 05:07.38 | maqr | now that i think about it, i was wondering why the RC client said 'premium' for my user a month or two ago |
| 05:07.46 | maqr | so it's pretty obvious this was in the making back then |
| 05:07.52 | maqr | it still does look bad though |
| 05:07.58 | Arrowmaster | its always been in the making |
| 05:08.07 | Torhal | maqr: It was announced around September that there would be free premium until official client launch |
| 05:08.17 | maqr | ah, i missed that |
| 05:08.19 | Torhal | No, make that June |
| 05:08.51 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1769 RecipeDB (2 files in 1 directory): Fix error with tailoring trainer, and update inscription. |
| 05:13.10 | Bruners | Curse Premium (Complimentary) sup with that? |
| 05:13.17 | Bruners | complimentary |
| 05:15.06 | maqr | eh? |
| 05:15.46 | maqr | i'd like a premium account because it'd be convenient for me, but i can't recommend people get the curse client in its current state, it's essentially broken if it can't "update all" for free |
| 05:15.47 | Hirsute | Bruners: Free premium for authors with addons with more than 1k downloads, I believe. |
| 05:16.06 | Hirsute | It works just fine for me, not updating all for free. |
| 05:17.18 | Hirsute | Yeah, it's less convenient than it was, but it's still fine. |
| 05:18.01 | maqr | it technically works, it's just a bad solution |
| 05:18.55 | Bruners | being able to select all addons in the free version would be a lot better |
| 05:20.28 | maqr | exactly |
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| 05:31.22 | maqr | Kaelten: also, your one-download-at-a-time thing doesn't apply to the shell handler, the most efficient way for me to solve my immediate need would be to just open every addon i have's download link |
| 05:31.49 | maqr | Kaelten: that'd put a lot of extra strain on your servers, since i'd be getting them all, not just ones that need updating, but it'd bypass the bad limitation |
| 05:33.26 | Torhal | maqr: That would also be more work than updating the ones that need udating one at a time |
| 05:34.49 | maqr | Torhal: i'm pretty sure it'd just be a few lines of vbscript, never done it before though |
| 05:35.09 | Bruners | not more work, it would just take a bit more time |
| 05:35.24 | maqr | i'll try it in a few, i'm supposed to be healing 4 horsemans right now :p |
| 05:35.35 | Kaelten | I'm doing line tower wars atm |
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| 05:35.43 | Kaelten | down to just me and one other guy, hehe |
| 05:35.53 | Bruners | Kaelten: on northrend? |
| 05:36.01 | maqr | they're all "pew pew pew" and i'm all "oh noes! heal heal heal" |
| 05:36.03 | Kaelten | warcraft 3 |
| 05:36.09 | Kaelten | :D |
| 05:36.22 | digmouse | Tower Defense? |
| 05:36.24 | Bruners | you are obviously on US |
| 05:36.26 | Bruners | :P |
| 05:36.40 | Kaelten | yep tower defense |
| 05:36.40 | Bruners | Northrend being the EU WC3 server |
| 05:36.41 | quiescens | 4 horsemen doesn't need healing |
| 05:36.43 | quiescens | ! |
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| 05:37.37 | Repo | - re-added creation/deletion of filters, removed a old locale |
| 05:37.37 | digmouse | DotA fix me better because I suck at calculating :P |
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| 05:40.02 | Kaelten | oh yeah I'm in the US |
| 05:40.04 | Kaelten | :P |
| 05:40.35 | Bruners | anyone recently updated WC3 with wine ? |
| 05:41.23 | maqr | quiescens: they get all pissy if i'm alt tabbed though :/ |
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| 05:41.48 | Grum | Kaelten: how are the other countries coming along for the curse point system? |
| 05:42.10 | Kaelten | ? |
| 05:42.14 | Kaelten | you mean for the store? |
| 05:42.16 | Grum | yeah |
| 05:42.20 | Kaelten | it's in the works :) |
| 05:42.25 | Grum | sorry just woke up, still vague in my own head |
| 05:42.57 | Grum | Kaelten: what are the problems? currency? legal stuff orso? or just 'need to poke amazon and let them set it up' ? |
| 05:43.19 | maqr | is in favor of some kind of store for curse :p |
| 05:44.07 | Kaelten | something inbetween |
| 05:44.11 | Kaelten | legal issues in some cases |
| 05:44.26 | Kaelten | also working with amazon |
| 05:44.29 | Kaelten | they're kinda picky |
| 05:45.05 | Grum | they should be, but i wonder how the pickiness extends to difference 'target' countries if 1 company is bringing them business like this :D |
| 05:45.20 | Grum | s/nce/nt/ |
| 05:45.31 | Grum | oe purl <3 |
| 05:45.43 | Kaelten | well to some extent they act independently it seems |
| 05:45.46 | Kaelten | I'm not sure on all the details |
| 05:45.54 | Kaelten | the admins in san fran take care of that |
| 05:45.56 | Grum | ah well, we'll see more stuff appear :) |
| 05:46.18 | Kaelten | but yeah |
| 05:46.33 | Kaelten | we're not going to let EU et al hang in the wind |
| 05:46.35 | Grum | some people will make a semi-decent living out of those points ;) |
| 05:46.41 | Kaelten | a handful |
| 05:46.42 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:46.52 | Grum | ckk prolly ;) |
| 05:47.09 | Kaelten | well we haven't told him yet |
| 05:47.15 | Kaelten | but we're going to stop giving him a paycheck |
| 05:47.25 | Torhal | Hirsute: Were you the one who linked the NoScript link for ABP? |
| 05:47.41 | Grum | hihi ;) |
| 05:47.44 | Hirsute | Torhal: I do'nt think so... |
| 05:47.56 | Torhal | Kaelten: Why? So the taxes from the Curse points don't just eat the check up? |
| 05:47.59 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:48.01 | Hirsute | I don't use NoScript, and while I *do* use ABP, I turn it off for sites I visit regularly. |
| 05:48.08 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:48.09 | Grum | maybe you should have points 2 gold or points 2 powerlevel as well Kaelthen :p |
| 05:48.12 | Kaelten | yeah it's weird |
| 05:48.13 | Torhal | Ah, ok |
| 05:48.24 | Kaelten | the IRS considers gift cards a form of income |
| 05:48.38 | Grum | as does it in many countries |
| 05:48.45 | Grum | but most of them have a 'sane' lower limit |
| 05:49.05 | Grum | think it was like 9k orso in the netherlands |
| 05:49.14 | Kaelten | yeah it's like 600 in the US before you have to start reporting |
| 05:49.15 | Kaelten | heh |
| 05:49.33 | FryGuy- | gift cards as a source of income? |
| 05:49.34 | Grum | seriously, T8 shoulders look SO AWESOME :D |
| 05:49.38 | Kaelten | yeah |
| 05:49.42 | FryGuy- | as in, you give a gift card to someone? |
| 05:49.45 | Kaelten | it's taxable just like a paycheck |
| 05:49.47 | FryGuy- | or you buy yourself one |
| 05:49.55 | Grum | http://grum.nl/shoulders.png <-- stupidly big but awesome! |
| 05:49.59 | Kaelten | FryGuy-: like you get it from your employeer |
| 05:50.20 | Grum | Kaelten: the stupid part is, the person buying is already paying taxes over the money he is using to buy them with |
| 05:50.24 | Grum | so its kinda meh |
| 05:50.32 | Kaelten | yeah I do think that's kinda bullshit |
| 05:50.47 | Grum | at least here we have a 'sanish' lowerlimit |
| 05:50.48 | quiescens | I'm sure they would tax you 3 times if they could |
| 05:50.49 | Bruners | Grum: Emerald Dream ? |
| 05:50.58 | Grum | but after that i think it is 62% orso o.O |
| 05:51.01 | Grum | (taxes) |
| 05:51.03 | Grum | yes Bruners |
| 05:51.13 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: seriously? crap im making enough points per day that i'll be over $600 in like 75 days..... |
| 05:51.43 | maqr | Torhal: on KT now, i'll see how quickly i can put together an auto-updating vbs after this though :P |
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| 05:51.54 | Grum | ~160 pts a day, not bad Arrowmaster |
| 05:52.11 | Arrowmaster | its been going down a little |
| 05:52.22 | Grum | hehe mine is going up |
| 05:52.23 | Kaelten | yep seriously |
| 05:52.41 | Grum | but i get around 20 orso atm :) |
| 05:52.49 | Grum | still enough to pay for wow in the end =) |
| 05:53.09 | Grum | Bruners: you also on ED? |
| 05:53.26 | Cryect | points turned on? |
| 05:53.33 | Kaelten | yep |
| 05:53.35 | Kaelten | collection of them |
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| 05:53.45 | Bruners | Grum: i was, horde side |
| 05:54.02 | Grum | Bruners: horde on ED is completely noexistent :) |
| 05:54.09 | Bruners | hehe |
| 05:54.09 | Grum | 1 raiding guild orso ;) |
| 05:54.18 | Bruners | its like the Borg and Outlaws Torn |
| 05:54.25 | Torhal | Kaelten: Amazon sells WoW cards? |
| 05:54.31 | Kaelten | yep |
| 05:54.57 | renchap | irk, the new curse client segfaults :( |
| 05:55.05 | Kaelten | ? |
| 05:55.06 | renchap | should it work with wine ? |
| 05:55.10 | Kaelten | install ie6 |
| 05:55.23 | Torhal | renchap: If you're not premium, it does NOT work with Wine. |
| 05:55.25 | Arrowmaster | why does it need IE? |
| 05:55.31 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Ads |
| 05:55.32 | Kaelten | Torhal: it does if you install ie6 |
| 05:55.39 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: embed webkit! |
| 05:55.40 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: yeah using the active x control to show ads |
| 05:55.40 | Torhal | Kaelten: Ah |
| 05:55.48 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: looking at it for the 4.0 client |
| 05:55.50 | renchap | it does not work since latest version |
| 05:55.52 | Grum | activex ... BAH! |
| 05:56.00 | Grum | if there is anything evil :P |
| 05:56.01 | Torhal | renchap: You're not a premium member, are you? |
| 05:56.02 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: use of activex = fail |
| 05:56.09 | renchap | Torhal: i dont remember |
| 05:56.14 | renchap | :) |
| 05:56.17 | Grum | please dont make the premium use activex |
| 05:56.25 | Grum | i dont want *anything* starting IE on my box :p |
| 05:56.31 | Grum | like the stupid wow-launcher! >< |
| 05:56.33 | Torhal | renchap: You'd either have to be an addon author with 1000+ downloads or have paid for premium |
| 05:56.45 | Bruners | sh winetricks fakeie6 |
| 05:56.47 | Arrowmaster | i really wish steam would stop using IE |
| 05:56.48 | Torhal | renchap: If neither, install IE6 so it can display the ads. |
| 05:56.56 | Kaelten | renchap: try to relog in |
| 05:56.57 | renchap | not premium so |
| 05:57.04 | Grum | Arrowmaster: meh that one as well |
| 05:57.11 | renchap | ok, it works |
| 05:57.23 | Arrowmaster | lol, i know what Kaelten did |
| 05:57.39 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 05:58.05 | Arrowmaster | gave him premium so he could get it to work in wine |
| 05:58.18 | Grum | hahahha |
| 05:58.24 | Kaelten | well, he did host wowace's mirror svn for a long time |
| 05:58.48 | Grum | hosting svn doesnt justify giving stuff away ;) |
| 05:58.56 | Grum | its ... svn! brrrr |
| 06:00.08 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:00.34 | Bruners | Kaelten: where is the login name stored? |
| 06:00.40 | Grum | i feel like i'm forgetting some kind of national holiday and when i show up at work ... no-one will be there |
| 06:00.44 | Kaelten | Bruners: in the db |
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| 06:03.06 | renchap | "You'd either have to be an addon author with 1000+ downloads" |
| 06:03.11 | renchap | i should update jumpcounter |
| 06:03.12 | Adirelle | hi there |
| 06:03.24 | Torhal | Adirelle: Yola :) |
| 06:03.26 | renchap | i am sure it will give me these downloads :) |
| 06:03.42 | Kaelten | hacker! |
| 06:05.47 | Bruners | Kaelten: how can i reset it without opening the client? |
| 06:06.27 | Adirelle | Torhal: I still have a (untested) auto-hiding stub for LibQTip there, should I commit it ? |
| 06:06.51 | Kaelten | Bruners: wipe your data files |
| 06:07.15 | Torhal | Adirelle: Yah. I haven't heard from Elkano in awhile, so he'll just have to merge what he has when it's ready. |
| 06:07.53 | Torhal | Apparently gagou is using the scrollable branch in tomQuest2, and it's having toolti issues. |
| 06:07.57 | Torhal | Blargh. |
| 06:08.05 | Adirelle | [Ammo] could I have your opinion about a possible BigWigs_Ulduar extension ? http://code.google.com/p/adirelles-code/source/browse/#svn/trunk/wow/addons/BigWigs_RazorscaleFlames |
| 06:09.24 | Repo | 10libqtip-1-0: 03Adirelle * r67 LibQTip-1.0.lua: Added optional auto-hiding feature. |
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| 06:20.41 | maqr | Torhal: wanna see my answer? :P |
| 06:21.45 | maqr | actually, it's copy/paste, i probably shouldn't post that |
| 06:22.56 | maqr | Kaelten: if you want, i can show you my working update script, in the hopes that you guys will realize how silly not being able to update in one-click is and fix it |
| 06:23.44 | Kaelten | bmclemore@curse.com |
| 06:23.54 | Adirelle | is there still some delay between repo creation and autorization setup ? |
| 06:25.07 | Kaelten | should be minimal |
| 06:25.23 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r2 / (12 files in 2 directories): Initial import. |
| 06:25.37 | Adirelle | indeed |
| 06:26.53 | maqr | Kaelten: i'll just /msg you a pastebin link, if you need to get back to me, i'm always on irc |
| 06:27.51 | maqr | maybe you can use that to show whoever makes the decisions how trivial it is to bypass the updating restriction at the expense of extra load to your servers, rather than just doing it a sane way |
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| 06:31.20 | Repo | 10jump-counter: 03renchap 041.1.2-release * r45 : Tagging as 1.1.2-release |
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| 06:36.43 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5439 Ulduar/Vezax.lua: BigWigs: Ulduar/Vezax: Fix Saronite Vapors |
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| 06:37.12 | Repo | - fixed up the broken tooltip crap |
| 06:37.15 | Repo | - now on to the real work |
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| 06:48.36 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: I think after the latest flames nerf, that's useless |
| 06:51.15 | Elkano | Adirelle, wrt auto-hiding, shouldn't that have been done using the new animation stuff? |
| 06:52.31 | Fisker- | rage |
| 06:52.58 | Elkano | tranqulizes Fisker- |
| 06:55.54 | Mec | anyone know of an updated addon like omnibus, its like an ingame note pad that lets you run scripts |
| 06:57.55 | Cryect | O_o at how much code that is for just saying if someone is being attacked by flames and marking them |
| 06:57.59 | Bruners | tekPad, TinyPad? |
| 06:58.09 | Mec | ah thats what its called, thanks |
| 06:59.29 | Shefki | Wow PVP is so stupid now as a healer. |
| 06:59.33 | Shefki | There's almost no point in even doing it. |
| 06:59.44 | Mec | how so? |
| 07:00.12 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5440 Ulduar (2 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: koKR Update |
| 07:00.23 | Shefki | Too much damage. |
| 07:01.01 | Shefki | You can't heal anyone. |
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| 07:08.24 | TNSe | Shefki, what class? :P |
| 07:08.32 | Shefki | I'm a druid. |
| 07:09.52 | Mec | tekpad doesnt look like it's been updated in a while, does it still work? |
| 07:09.53 | Elkano | should I wonder if I get a donation marked as "via WoWMatrix" for one of my addons, that isn't listed on thier page as being available via the client? |
| 07:09.57 | TNSe | druids dont seem to have too big problems |
| 07:10.13 | sztanpet | with healing themselves maybe if they get the hots off in time |
| 07:10.37 | sztanpet | you cant heal someone as a druid if they get a huge burst and a mortal strike basically |
| 07:10.58 | sztanpet | or maybe i just suck |
| 07:11.02 | quiescens | sure you can |
| 07:11.10 | quiescens | you just need everyone to have 1000-1500 resilience |
| 07:11.19 | sztanpet | true ^ |
| 07:11.29 | quiescens | you aren't trying to pvp without pvp gear are you |
| 07:11.33 | sztanpet | anyway i hope it gets better |
| 07:11.37 | quiescens | everyone knows pvp is only for people with 3000 arena rating |
| 07:11.40 | sztanpet | nah, just not enough gear |
| 07:12.01 | TNSe | If there is mortal strike, the only thing you can do, is cc the warrior |
| 07:12.20 | TNSe | seriously, the MS/Aimed Shot/wound poison is there to do 1 thing |
| 07:12.24 | TNSe | make it impossible to heal through |
| 07:12.35 | TNSe | logically, you'd try to fix that before healing |
| 07:13.01 | quiescens | on the one hand, its nice that its barely possible to heal through even without the relevant debuffs because now they aren't nearly as neccesary as they once were |
| 07:13.20 | quiescens | on the other its like, whats the point of healing if its so hard to heal through things even when they aren't debuffed |
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| 07:14.08 | quiescens | but yeah, pvp is being scaled assuming people are wearing well over 1000 resilience |
| 07:17.53 | TNSe | if I dont get interrupted, I can heal through a dk, retardin, frost mage, destro lock fairly easily |
| 07:18.36 | TNSe | and if the hunter doesn't have AS up its easy to heal through a hunter too |
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| 07:19.16 | TNSe | even with the poor helaing you got in some pvp gear |
| 07:21.09 | TNSe | of course you gotta assume the target to be healed has enough hp pool to survive the burst heh |
| 07:21.29 | TNSe | if the fella has 12k (quest gear) yeah he's in trouble |
| 07:21.49 | TNSe | my shadowfiend can kill that guy |
| 07:22.13 | Grum | mmm shadowfiend! |
| 07:22.18 | Grum | shadowfiend with heroism++ |
| 07:22.37 | TNSe | shadowfiend with heroism and rampage is just nasty |
| 07:22.53 | TNSe | have had it crit 4k+ in raids :P |
| 07:23.03 | Grum | rampage? |
| 07:23.16 | TNSe | 5% extra crit chance! |
| 07:23.27 | Grum | :P |
| 07:24.17 | TNSe | shadowfiend scales with AP buffs and haste buffs like wf totem, it seems like it can't be dodged/parried at all, nor miss |
| 07:24.30 | TNSe | it deals magic damage |
| 07:24.41 | TNSe | its basically a walking dot |
| 07:24.54 | Grum | yeah |
| 07:24.56 | Grum | they fixed that |
| 07:25.07 | Grum | the only thing which sucks is that it can get killed easily ;( |
| 07:25.13 | TNSe | pw:s it |
| 07:25.14 | Grum | ea by crushers at YS :( |
| 07:25.22 | TNSe | o |
| 07:25.44 | TNSe | I didnt find yogg mana intensive enough to warrant it |
| 07:25.44 | Grum | you cant send it at anything even remotely close to those tentacles :) |
| 07:25.50 | Grum | you didnt? |
| 07:25.52 | Grum | lol |
| 07:25.56 | TNSe | I used it on the brain |
| 07:26.00 | TNSe | that was it |
| 07:26.32 | Grum | i have no idea what happened but on your YS kill last night i used 3 innervates, 1 pot, 4 fiends, 3 dispersions |
| 07:26.35 | TNSe | compared to just having done general and p2 mimiron, yogg wasn't mana intensive :P |
| 07:26.37 | Grum | and still oom at the end :) |
| 07:26.46 | TNSe | o |
| 07:26.47 | TNSe | I'm disc :P |
| 07:26.54 | Grum | YS is piece of meh |
| 07:26.58 | Grum | you need 4 healers |
| 07:27.02 | Grum | 3 to make it a challenge |
| 07:27.20 | sb|work | in 10man? :p |
| 07:27.22 | TNSe | prayer of mending + brain room = kay. |
| 07:27.40 | Grum | no 25m obviously :) |
| 07:27.41 | quiescens | prayer of mending is overpowered ): |
| 07:28.12 | Cryect | Grum do it with less watchers |
| 07:28.24 | Grum | Cryect: hehe |
| 07:28.40 | Grum | i think 1 watcher less will be a whole new world of pain |
| 07:29.26 | TNSe | heh |
| 07:29.30 | TNSe | imagine no watchers |
| 07:29.38 | Grum | go try XT hardmode |
| 07:29.39 | TNSe | even getting away from the green shit will be a nightmare |
| 07:29.55 | Grum | just for the first one in the instance that is somewhat of a challenge |
| 07:30.01 | Grum | we tried it on 10m |
| 07:30.08 | Grum | and couldn't get past 80% O.o |
| 07:30.08 | Cryect | 10 man its not bad |
| 07:30.18 | TNSe | in 10 man I think we could have done it |
| 07:30.19 | Grum | did you try it post-buff? |
| 07:30.24 | Cryect | Yes killed it the other day |
| 07:30.25 | Grum | what killing the heart? |
| 07:30.30 | TNSe | last time we tried, he lasted <1.5 minute |
| 07:30.37 | Cryect | let me get the log |
| 07:30.49 | TNSe | it was like |
| 07:30.50 | Grum | for some reason i doubt you killed XT002 on hardmode :p |
| 07:30.54 | TNSe | Ohh, I'm so tired. |
| 07:31.00 | Cryect | Why? |
| 07:31.00 | TNSe | and then he picked up heart |
| 07:31.05 | TNSe | and went, |
| 07:31.05 | TNSe | Ohh, I'm so tired. |
| 07:31.08 | TNSe | ... and again |
| 07:31.13 | Repo | 10nanopar: 03Torhal * r2 .pkgmeta: Initial commit. |
| 07:31.14 | TNSe | then he had 2% left and died :P |
| 07:31.22 | Grum | that is normal mode yes |
| 07:31.30 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 07:31.34 | Fisker- | i wonder what happens |
| 07:31.35 | TNSe | it was hillarious :P |
| 07:31.37 | Cryect | Hodir was harder then again realized at vezax trash that whoops I had been tank mode and that had been what hurting my dps all day >_< |
| 07:31.39 | Fisker- | if you hit him down to like 10% |
| 07:31.42 | Fisker- | then kill his heart |
| 07:31.43 | Cryect | http://wmo.178.com/combat/3673121 |
| 07:31.48 | quiescens | he goes to full hp |
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| 07:31.58 | TNSe | 10%? |
| 07:32.00 | Grum | 350% hp yes :) |
| 07:32.01 | Cryect | Thats a 10 man hard mode kill Grum |
| 07:32.16 | Cryect | from may 1st |
| 07:32.22 | Fisker- | quiescens and what if the damage from the heart is done before healing him? |
| 07:32.25 | Grum | yeah that is hardmode :D |
| 07:32.27 | Fisker- | Then he'd be dead |
| 07:32.32 | Grum | good lord so much melee! |
| 07:32.43 | Cryect | Searix was on hsi mage and we swapped him out |
| 07:32.49 | Cryect | should check our hodir hard mode |
| 07:32.59 | Grum | did you make that one? |
| 07:33.02 | Cryect | yeah |
| 07:33.19 | Cryect | I feel so stupid for being tank spec at the time >_< and still second highest feral dps on WMO |
| 07:33.19 | quiescens | the damage from the heart is transferred at the end of the heart phase or whatever |
| 07:33.22 | Cryect | for hodir 10 |
| 07:33.26 | quiescens | I suppose you could try to time it really really well |
| 07:33.26 | Cryect | http://wmo.178.com/combat/3714972 |
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| 07:33.38 | Cryect | quiescens if you are doing hard mode |
| 07:33.42 | quiescens | and then like all race conditions in wow, blizzard would be like "meh" |
| 07:33.46 | Cryect | you aren't killing the adds which means he heals to full |
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| 07:33.58 | Cryect | from any damage on the transition |
| 07:33.58 | quiescens | cryect: you aren't following our line of conversation |
| 07:34.09 | quiescens | ): |
| 07:34.13 | Cryect | oh! |
| 07:34.23 | Cryect | he's talking about killing the last heart |
| 07:34.26 | Grum | Cryect: impressive i have to say :) |
| 07:34.30 | Cryect | its not possible to kill the last heart is it? |
| 07:34.36 | Grum | you can |
| 07:34.38 | Grum | he just regens full |
| 07:34.45 | Cryect | or at least before you kill the last heart he would die before it died |
| 07:34.55 | quiescens | fisker is saying what happens if you kill the heart such that the damage from the heart kills him and the heart dies at the same time |
| 07:34.59 | quiescens | or something to that effect |
| 07:35.07 | Grum | Cryect: how did you do hodir? |
| 07:35.12 | Grum | is that lotsofluck? |
| 07:35.15 | TNSe | then he enters oh shi- mode |
| 07:35.34 | Cryect | Some luck, 1 healer, and finding the raid composition that works |
| 07:35.35 | Kalroth | Hodir is tons easier on 10 man |
| 07:35.50 | Cryect | yeah in the sense its possible without exploiting |
| 07:35.52 | TNSe | in general, doing 10 man instance with 25 man gear is going to be easier |
| 07:35.55 | Grum | i just dont see how you can ever push out that amount of dmg |
| 07:36.05 | Kalroth | hint: Storm Cloud |
| 07:36.17 | Grum | yes but isnt that a targetted spell? |
| 07:36.21 | Grum | or a buffed area orso? |
| 07:36.23 | TNSe | the target can move to dps |
| 07:36.23 | Cryect | it targets a person |
| 07:36.27 | Cryect | then next 4 people who touch them |
| 07:36.28 | Kalroth | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=65123 |
| 07:36.29 | Cryect | get storm power |
| 07:36.41 | Cryect | then you stack in the haste buffs |
| 07:36.47 | Grum | how long does it last? |
| 07:36.51 | Cryect | and dance between haste buffs |
| 07:36.52 | Cryect | 30 seconds? |
| 07:37.00 | Kalroth | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=62807 |
| 07:37.02 | Cryect | oh also double potions of speed |
| 07:37.18 | Grum | double? :D |
| 07:37.39 | Cryect | Anyways that fight varies who's on top from fight to fight depending on how often you get the storm power buff |
| 07:37.50 | Cryect | 1 minute potion cooldown and you can pot outside of combat |
| 07:38.10 | Grum | so you start with ~15 seconds of buff? |
| 07:38.16 | Cryect | yeah |
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| 07:38.25 | quiescens | too much effort to try to count that |
| 07:38.29 | Grum | hmm you need to kill 2 flashfreezes right? |
| 07:38.38 | Cryect | after 2nd flash freeze he breaks it right |
| 07:38.41 | quiescens | it'll be more like 10s of the buff for most fights |
| 07:38.50 | quiescens | given how long it takes to set up initially |
| 07:38.55 | Cryect | it works fine for hodir since you kill the iceblocks |
| 07:38.56 | Cryect | first |
| 07:39.15 | Grum | can you kill those without pulling him ? doubt it? |
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| 07:39.20 | Cryect | no you can't |
| 07:39.22 | Kalroth | You can't |
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| 07:39.32 | Kalroth | They'll just reset if you do ranged damage to them |
| 07:39.55 | Cryect | the tank positions the boss while you break them out and builds initial aggro |
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| 07:40.01 | Grum | this is probably way harder if you just take casters |
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| 07:40.13 | Kalroth | actually mages >>> * on Hodir :) |
| 07:40.25 | Cryect | Thats if you have enough mages though |
| 07:40.34 | TNSe | frostfire or fire :P |
| 07:40.35 | quiescens | aren't you already in combat if the boss is active |
| 07:40.38 | Grum | why mages? |
| 07:40.53 | Kalroth | because of their burst and the buffs from the fight |
| 07:40.55 | Grum | the have insane crit so the buff is really nice |
| 07:40.59 | Cryect | Benefit the best from the Haste & Crit buff |
| 07:41.03 | Kalroth | 135% crit damage and 100% haste |
| 07:41.08 | TNSe | mages benefit like 100% from haste |
| 07:41.09 | Cryect | 60% haste now |
| 07:41.22 | Kalroth | oh |
| 07:41.23 | TNSe | warlocks have dots/cooldowns |
| 07:41.33 | Cryect | don't think they updated the tooltips yet for it |
| 07:41.38 | Grum | i wonder how mages get around the having to move :) |
| 07:41.47 | Grum | that is quite expensive pushing movement between every other cast |
| 07:41.48 | TNSe | ice block :P |
| 07:42.06 | TNSe | 4 stacks, iceblock, all fine again |
| 07:42.23 | Kalroth | you don't have to move if you just jump when doing instants |
| 07:42.31 | TNSe | mages have no instants they want to put out P: |
| 07:42.33 | Cryect | All the hard modes are much simpler though on 10 man |
| 07:42.46 | TNSe | on 10 man you got 25 man gear |
| 07:42.53 | TNSe | its going to be easier |
| 07:43.09 | Kalroth | TNSe: rather fireblast + move/jump than nothing at all :) |
| 07:43.12 | Cryect | Annoying thing is having to do 10 man hard mode for BiS gear :( |
| 07:43.16 | Grum | Cryect: you do seem to stack an aweful lot of melee :D |
| 07:43.19 | TNSe | heh, what piece? |
| 07:43.52 | Cryect | Grum, the supposed "antimelee" fights in Ulduar aren't antimelee really |
| 07:44.06 | Grum | if you bring enough it doesnt matter |
| 07:44.12 | Cryect | there is stuff that prevents you from stacking them |
| 07:44.14 | Cryect | in 25 man |
| 07:44.16 | Grum | well i guess Mimiron is a pain |
| 07:44.30 | Grum | yeah and for example thorim |
| 07:44.34 | Kalroth | Mimiron with 25 melee would be .. interesting |
| 07:44.36 | Cryect | Mimiron is top DPS for melee in 3 of 4 phases |
| 07:44.41 | Grum | you cant bring that much melee, chainlightning will kill every time it fires |
| 07:44.48 | FryGuy- | wow, i just now noticed that blast wave does a knockback now |
| 07:44.53 | Cryect | we bring 10 melee to thorim hard mode |
| 07:45.03 | Grum | Cryect: 25m? |
| 07:45.06 | Cryect | yes |
| 07:45.12 | FryGuy- | been playing for like 4 hours |
| 07:45.13 | Cryect | Thorim hard mode on 10 man is a joke :( |
| 07:45.21 | Cryect | they need to like do something to it |
| 07:45.35 | TNSe | joke haha? |
| 07:45.52 | Grum | some people just rape fights by stacking :P |
| 07:45.56 | Cryect | well when you get it on your first try of the second week the instance is out |
| 07:46.04 | Kalroth | It's a joke as in we did it unintentionally the first time we did Thorim on 10 man |
| 07:46.10 | Cryect | and it took us a few days in 25 man |
| 07:46.21 | Kalroth | "oh hay, why's Sif still here?" |
| 07:46.26 | Cryect | Yeah |
| 07:46.27 | TNSe | Kalroth, happened to us too |
| 07:46.33 | TNSe | then we wiped to a chain lightning .P |
| 07:46.47 | Cryect | Chain lightning needs to be buffed for 10 man |
| 07:46.53 | Kalroth | while on 25 man it'll take a good tunnel team to reach her before 3 mins |
| 07:46.59 | Cryect | its like completely not an issue in 10 man |
| 07:47.19 | Cryect | not sure what could really do since the room was designed for 25 man |
| 07:47.23 | Grum | Cryect: you experience the world way different than other people :D |
| 07:47.26 | TNSe | it is when you aren't ready for it :P |
| 07:47.39 | Grum | but you are also doing hardmodes with 6 melee :) |
| 07:48.17 | Cryect | 7 if you count the tank |
| 07:48.27 | Grum | on 10m ;) |
| 07:48.37 | Cryect | which you should since they will take up melee positions |
| 07:48.48 | Grum | melee can dish out stupid amounts of dps |
| 07:48.56 | Cryect | yep |
| 07:49.07 | Grum | also the reason why they put these blocks in to prevent you from taking only melee |
| 07:49.21 | Cryect | thats why we stacked them for thorim hard mode http://wmo.178.com/combat/3500758 |
| 07:49.24 | Grum | melee scales nearly perfect with heroism (well all but DKs :D) |
| 07:49.29 | Kalroth | I bet 1 healer and 2 DKs could do tunnel just fine in 10 man :p |
| 07:49.36 | Cryect | well not feral druids |
| 07:50.06 | Cryect | Thats phase 2 only and wmo busted the timing for that after it was posted :( |
| 07:50.26 | Grum | wmo is slow and no loading |
| 07:50.31 | Grum | piece of meh! |
| 07:50.33 | Cryect | yeah |
| 07:50.46 | Cryect | WWS is fixed again so might go back to using that |
| 07:50.51 | Kalroth | use http://www.worldoflogs.com/ instead imo |
| 07:51.29 | Cryect | yeah heard about them though haven't tried them yet |
| 07:52.56 | Grum | just wait until everyone starts using them |
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| 07:53.32 | Cryect | None of them really go as far as I feel they should |
| 07:54.37 | Cryect | I've got these ideas for what I would want to see in a damage addon/web report that I came up with long ago but no time to implement them since actually working |
| 07:55.55 | Cryect | World of Logs doesn't really give the analysis you need |
| 07:57.47 | Cryect | Surprised they've went for the damage graphs. Always felt like that was a feature people didn't really use in Recount |
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| 07:58.16 | Cryect | But they made that top and central |
| 07:58.19 | Grum | people never used them because they bugged |
| 07:58.27 | Grum | they are fine now though :) |
| 07:59.16 | Grum | i remember activating the graphs in MH .... and then they bugged, wow locked up, and whiii horrid death ;D |
| 07:59.30 | Cryect | should saw them when I first did them |
| 07:59.52 | Cryect | before I added like half the optimizations I did to libgraph |
| 08:00.17 | Grum | ;) |
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| 08:02.05 | sb|work | Cryect: are pets/totems fixed in wws? |
| 08:02.19 | sb|work | they were still broken like ~1 week ago |
| 08:02.28 | Cryect | don't know |
| 08:02.47 | Cryect | I heard it was at least processing ulduar bosses correctly so that would be an improvement kinda of |
| 08:02.59 | sb|work | ok then its still fail :o |
| 08:03.05 | Cryect | but if pets are still broken its still worthless then to a degree besdies its faster and nicer presentation than WMO |
| 08:03.10 | sb|work | wmo works fine.. but.. *sigh* |
| 08:03.27 | Grum | wmo takes multiple days to load :) |
| 08:03.28 | Cryect | Not enjoying the Engrish or slowness |
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| 08:03.35 | Grum | but that is what you get for being popular ;) |
| 08:03.57 | Cryect | Well they got popular because WWS was broken for so long :-p |
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| 08:10.10 | Tamaroth_ | wws doesn't show YS on my list :< |
| 08:12.42 | digmouse | I loled at "Engrish" |
| 08:12.58 | digmouse | already give that dev a facepalm |
| 08:12.59 | Cryect | yeah its amusing when its the title of the pages |
| 08:13.19 | digmouse | should be fixed soon but I dont know if he will forget it |
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| 08:13.32 | Cryect | I'm sure its intentional |
| 08:13.39 | Cryect | just recognizing his bad english |
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| 08:13.47 | digmouse | Sense of humor :P |
| 08:14.28 | Grum | whoha |
| 08:14.35 | Grum | the engrish is strong @ Wmo :D |
| 08:14.38 | digmouse | and dont expect it to be fast if you are uploading thing to a Chinese site :P |
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| 08:18.30 | Grum | ``Since WMO can only handle a less 200M combatlog at once, we need split our large log at first.So, WMO can help you now!'' |
| 08:18.38 | Grum | feels like they are trying to sell me gold ;( |
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| 08:22.25 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/nudist/. Nudist. Tekkub (Manager/Author). Approved by Tekkub. |
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| 08:23.33 | Fisker- | wut tekkub :E |
| 08:23.38 | Fisker- | 2.3.3.1-BetaWoW: 2.3.31 minute ago |
| 08:23.38 | Fisker- | :E |
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| 08:25.29 | Elkano | Fisker-, maybe he's supporting china? |
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| 08:25.51 | Elkano | or maybe he's suporting Pirates |
| 08:26.28 | Fisker- | i'm gonna go with pirates |
| 08:26.30 | Fisker- | they're sexeh |
| 08:27.11 | Elkano | and remember: to err is human... to arr is pirate! |
| 08:29.20 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5441 Ulduar/Leviathan.lua: BigWigs: Ulduar/Leviathan: Fix flame bar |
| 08:30.01 | digmouse | Fisker-: then US navy will take their eyes on you! |
| 08:30.20 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r215 non-dailies.lua: add more frame work for RRQ's it mostly works now... |
| 08:32.26 | Fisker- | no u digmouse |
| 08:32.47 | digmouse | why Fisker- |
| 08:33.16 | Grum | orionshock: does the sick-of-clicking-dailies also include auto-selecting the moneybag @ argent tournament? |
| 08:33.19 | sylvanaar | is there some new teleport hack going around? |
| 08:33.40 | Grum | sylvanaar: you getting pwned by teleported people? :D |
| 08:33.50 | sylvanaar | we just had a horde in the alliance av starting area |
| 08:34.03 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 08:34.03 | sylvanaar | before the game |
| 08:34.12 | Grum | prolly just a bug :D |
| 08:34.18 | Kalroth | It's probably just a bug, yeha |
| 08:34.24 | sylvanaar | doubt it |
| 08:34.27 | Grum | i've seen 2 arena teams end up on the same side before |
| 08:34.33 | orionshock | Grum: yes |
| 08:34.35 | Grum | and even seen 2teams vs1 :D |
| 08:34.46 | Grum | that one was hilarious |
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| 08:34.57 | Kalroth | I heard of a person that did the Dalaran questline to Icecrown and when he picked the "take me there!" from Dalaran, he got flown to the alliance airship and ganked |
| 08:35.02 | Grum | we got 2 rogues added to your 2v2 =D |
| 08:35.02 | Kalroth | (he was a tauren) |
| 08:35.06 | sylvanaar | i saw that same horde move 100+ yds in a blink |
| 08:35.29 | Grum | sylvanaar: prolly hacked then |
| 08:35.36 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.41 | sylvanaar | i did |
| 08:36.15 | Grum | orionshock: update the description page! it doesnt list it ;D |
| 08:36.32 | Grum | and what is 'RRQ' ? :D |
| 08:36.44 | Grum | oh repeatable rep quest |
| 08:36.56 | orionshock | Grum: eh... |
| 08:37.02 | orionshock | good point |
| 08:37.29 | orionshock | Grum: i didn't want to put them in the addon, but Ackis asked so nicely for em |
| 08:37.32 | Grum | i think this is the point people really want it ... stupid extra mouseclicks |
| 08:37.41 | Grum | orionshock: :D |
| 08:39.34 | orionshock | Grum: ... might want to re read the description.. it is there :) |
| 08:39.43 | Grum | did i fail that bad? |
| 08:39.48 | orionshock | "It also can automatically select a quest reward for the ones that have them, you can always leave it on none and the dialouge will stop there." |
| 08:40.03 | Grum | huummz oh well guess so |
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| 08:46.39 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r216 non-dailies.lua: comment out debug |
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| 08:50.30 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale 072 * r66 UnderHood.lua: UnderHood: |
| 08:50.33 | Repo | - Fake commit to kick packager since it skipped 2.0.4.2 |
| 08:51.12 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale 042.0.4.3 * r67 : UnderHood: |
| 08:51.15 | Repo | - Tagging as 2.0.4.3 (same as 2.0.4.2) |
| 08:54.25 | Xinhuan | ~seen tekkub |
| 08:54.27 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 7h 3m 24s ago, saying: 'why does Chromie have a female GOBLIN voice?'. |
| 08:56.18 | Grum | Xinhuan: still making him revoke that thing? |
| 08:56.28 | Xinhuan | no, i have an entirely different issue |
| 08:56.47 | Xinhuan | ## LoadManagers: AddonLoader |
| 08:56.49 | Xinhuan | ## X-LoadOn-Zone: Heb'Valok <--- doesn't work for ruRU, zhTW, zhCN |
| 08:57.17 | Grum | hehe |
| 08:57.22 | Xinhuan | this subzone isn't listed in babblezone either |
| 08:57.28 | Xinhuan | which addonloader tries to check |
| 08:57.28 | Grum | i bet he doesnt care a bit for that |
| 08:57.36 | Xinhuan | he probably wouldn't |
| 08:57.56 | Xinhuan | the code in addonloader does this as well |
| 08:58.06 | Xinhuan | for zone in arg:gmatch("(%w[^,]+%w)") do |
| 08:58.16 | Xinhuan | where arg is the list of zones in X-LoadOn-Zone |
| 08:58.26 | Grum | %w o.O ... that doesnt really work well with unicode |
| 08:58.32 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 08:58.43 | Grum | should be %S or just * nongreedy |
| 08:58.59 | Xinhuan | that piece of code is looking for a string that is at least 3 chars long, starts and ends with an alphanumeric character |
| 08:59.08 | Xinhuan | and doesn't contain a , |
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| 08:59.51 | Grum | people often get these patterns wrong |
| 08:59.52 | Xinhuan | almost all locales do use the zone name Heb'Valok |
| 09:00.02 | Xinhuan | but ruRU, zhTW and zhCN doesn't |
| 09:00.52 | Xinhuan | so in order to use addonloader, i'll need a different solution |
| 09:02.44 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r217 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 09:02.46 | orionshock | ackis ping |
| 09:02.48 | Repo | add SotA to PvP in Wrath. Change order on RRQ otpions, not that there are any atm. |
| 09:05.15 | Xinhuan | but honestly grum |
| 09:05.25 | Xinhuan | the addon is so small it uses less than 2kb of ram |
| 09:05.33 | Xinhuan | i don't see the point of adding addonloader support |
| 09:05.37 | Grum | hehe indeed |
| 09:06.01 | Xinhuan | and the only even it is registered for is |
| 09:06.02 | Xinhuan | CHAT_MSG_RAID_BOSS_WHISPER |
| 09:06.15 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r218 non-dailies.lua: remove event check for frame, as there are no options yet. |
| 09:06.21 | Xinhuan | which occurs like less than 5 times when you're not in an instance |
| 09:08.01 | Grum | but still! i needs to be has optimized! |
| 09:08.02 | Xinhuan | one thing addonloader can be updated though, is to use the locale agnostic function |
| 09:08.10 | Xinhuan | GetWorldMapZoneID() |
| 09:08.13 | Grum | ah well i guess he just wanted to do it 'right' |
| 09:08.23 | Grum | well fix addonloader :D |
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| 09:08.42 | Repo | 10banana-dkp: 03Rabbit * r146 BananaDKP.lua: |
| 09:08.45 | Repo | Don't broadcast when we're running the hour ticker, we'll broadcast on increment then. |
| 09:08.56 | Grum | btw is that variable width thing really mandatory for wowequip? ;) |
| 09:09.11 | Xinhuan | for someone that is pretty vocal about wowmatrix, tekkub goes and clones and modifies and publishes a deriaviative copy of an "all rights reserved" addon |
| 09:09.18 | Grum | if so i'll be needing to cook up some graphics to cope with stretching |
| 09:09.31 | orionshock | Xinhuan: but is that truly locale independent? some of them are not |
| 09:09.32 | Xinhuan | yes grum, i feel its necessary |
| 09:09.39 | Grum | Xinhuan: then it shall be so |
| 09:09.40 | Xinhuan | they are orionshock |
| 09:09.43 | Xinhuan | it returns an integer |
| 09:10.02 | Xinhuan | the integer matches the zoneid in the db files |
| 09:10.08 | Xinhuan | inside the mpqs |
| 09:10.10 | Grum | arent those ordered by locale? |
| 09:10.13 | Xinhuan | no |
| 09:10.15 | Grum | oh no the zones are |
| 09:10.17 | Xinhuan | every zone has a constant |
| 09:10.29 | orionshock | so.. LibBabbleZone is going away? |
| 09:10.55 | Grum | less libbabblesftw! |
| 09:10.56 | orionshock | ... are there going to be any babble libs left? |
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| 09:12.34 | Xinhuan | err that doesn't remove babbles |
| 09:13.00 | Xinhuan | its just a unique integer, that has a 1-1 mapping with GetMapInfo() |
| 09:13.13 | Xinhuan | and a bit more, since zones that don't have maps also have integers |
| 09:13.33 | Xinhuan | http://waypointlib.pastey.net/113428 |
| 09:13.43 | Xinhuan | that's a list of them non-instance maps ones |
| 09:14.10 | Xinhuan | with keys as the GetMapInfo() |
| 09:15.01 | Xinhuan | WorldMapFrame.lua even has a constant defined at the top of the file: WINTERGRASP_ZONE_ID = 502 or something like that |
| 09:15.18 | Xinhuan | which it uses to check the zone against to display the WG countdown timer |
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| 09:23.46 | Xinhuan | what this really means is that it is now possible to use these zoneIDs to detect which zone/instance you are in, *pokes vhaarr* |
| 09:23.59 | vhaarr | since when? |
| 09:24.06 | Xinhuan | since 3.1 |
| 09:24.09 | vhaarr | ah cool |
| 09:24.13 | Xinhuan | when they added thw WG countdown timer |
| 09:24.18 | vhaarr | I see |
| 09:24.20 | Xinhuan | you should look into it for bigwigs |
| 09:24.24 | vhaarr | obviously |
| 09:24.26 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if it returns values |
| 09:24.32 | Xinhuan | for instances withoutmaps |
| 09:24.36 | Xinhuan | but it should |
| 09:25.25 | vhaarr | "Attacks to ignore armor.", Gundrak Brutes buff |
| 09:25.36 | vhaarr | seems engrish is everywhere |
| 09:25.42 | Xinhuan | the function is GetCurrentMapAreaID() btw |
| 09:25.56 | Xinhuan | you'll have to force a SetMapToCurrentZone() before calling that |
| 09:27.32 | Fisker- | rages |
| 09:27.48 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: how can I get zone info from a ID? |
| 09:27.59 | Xinhuan | what do you mean, zone info |
| 09:28.08 | vhaarr | name |
| 09:28.14 | Fisker- | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shattered+Hand&n=Erzhus <-OH MY GOD |
| 09:28.21 | Fisker- | I hope i don't meet him in PvP |
| 09:28.24 | Xinhuan | you can't i think |
| 09:28.29 | Fisker- | he'll totally outdps, outtank and outheal me |
| 09:28.44 | Xinhuan | it is just a integer constant that every zone has that identifies it |
| 09:28.59 | krka | manually perhaps! |
| 09:29.06 | Xinhuan | similar to GetMapInfo() |
| 09:29.21 | Xinhuan | but unlike GetMapInfo(), that one only works on places with maps |
| 09:29.29 | Xinhuan | needs more testing to verify this |
| 09:30.21 | Xinhuan | it could be useful instead of comparing GetRealZoneText() |
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| 09:48.59 | Repo | - added deDE locale, added(not finished) support to watch units, moved setFilter() to the core and call it when enabling |
| 09:49.02 | Repo | - modified the default filter with the correct name and added the corresponding filter, this will fix showing wrong filters after reloading the interface or logging in |
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| 10:36.39 | sb|work | @describe healinc |
| 10:36.40 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/projects/healinc/. HealInc. HealInc is a heals-in-progress monitor. It is made to reduce overhealing on a target. It shows the cast bar of all healers currently casting a heal on your target. It recolours the bar red, orange or... |
| 10:36.48 | sb|work | hm |
| 10:37.41 | Dath | I'm working on the screenshots. But that should give you the general idea |
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| 12:01.26 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r321 modules (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 12:01.30 | Repo | fix the alias module, it was outputting into the chat. try to cleanup bad saved data for custom channel sounds |
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| 12:04.21 | steev | woohoo i show up on the armory |
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| 12:11.27 | Lywellyn | H'okay, once again, I throw myself at the mercy of the experience of this channel. Looking for an addon that will serve my purposes. |
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| 12:11.52 | Bruners | ok |
| 12:11.54 | Grum | Lywellyn: it's called notepad |
| 12:12.05 | Lywellyn | I'm thinking about going back to the Blizz UI for buff/debuff display, but since I have stuff in that region of the screen, is there an addon that can be made to look like the Blizz UI, yet moveable? |
| 12:12.06 | Grum | you can write any addon that does what you please |
| 12:12.21 | Grum | did you look at addons that deal with 'buffs'? ;) |
| 12:12.24 | Bruners | Buffalo |
| 12:12.31 | Grum | i think it was called something stupid like bufallo orso |
| 12:12.37 | Grum | ah right without typos =D |
| 12:12.42 | Lywellyn | Went to Curse, did a search based on "Buffs/Debuffs", found a TON dealing with casting buffs. |
| 12:12.56 | Bruners | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/SearchResults.aspx?q=buffalo |
| 12:13.05 | Lywellyn | I saw Buffalo, but saw a few comments regarding problems, and no screenshots. But I'm willing to try that. |
| 12:13.21 | Lywellyn | Moving away from ElkBuffBars, not interested in vertical buff displays any more. |
| 12:13.34 | Elkano | :( |
| 12:13.48 | SunTsu | Lywellyn: You made Elkano a very sad panda |
| 12:13.51 | Lywellyn | Elkano: Nothing wrong with your addon, it's served me faithfully for quite a while. :) |
| 12:13.55 | Bruners | Buffalo splits them up in buffs, debuffs and weapon enchants, keeping the same design |
| 12:14.22 | Lywellyn | Elkano: Unless you can tell me how to turn bars into just icons with the time left on them below it, horizontally? :p |
| 12:16.06 | winkiller | I'm more and more intrigued by EBB, but I cba to configure it, so it's still Buffalo for me |
| 12:16.50 | Grum | most people use bars so you can read the name of a buff |
| 12:16.51 | Bruners | cant you just do BuffFrame:ClearAllPoints() BuffFrame:SetPoint() ? |
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| 12:17.59 | steev | hell yeah, got up to 10fps |
| 12:18.08 | Lywellyn | Is there a config window for Buffalo? or is it all commandline? |
| 12:18.26 | Elkano | Lywellyn, well, you have to rewrite both the bar and the group layout ;) |
| 12:18.45 | Grum | i wonder how you can raid without being able read the name of at least the debuff you get |
| 12:18.46 | Elkano | or wat for EBB scheduled soon after the Duke |
| 12:19.11 | Gnarfoz | Lywellyn: there is some weird way to open a tooltip/dropdown thingy... however, Buffallo has serious performance issues :O |
| 12:19.35 | Lywellyn | Gnarfoz: Well that doesn't help me much then ;_; |
| 12:19.58 | Gnarfoz | don't ask me for alternatives either, I ditched it in favor of SimpleBuffBars, which is basically where you came from ;p |
| 12:20.22 | Lywellyn | Bruners: were you referring to scripts to move the Blizz buff frame? |
| 12:20.50 | Bruners | Lywellyn: /buffalo to configure buffalo |
| 12:21.13 | Lywellyn | Bruners: I found that already. and I couldn't find a configuration UI option, so's why I asked. |
| 12:22.33 | Elkano | I should really get myself to EBB3 :/ so much nice stuff planed but such a lazy coder for it :/ |
| 12:22.54 | Kalroth | Yeah, curse the coder of EBB! |
| 12:23.51 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r323 services/channelapi.lua: |
| 12:23.54 | Repo | add uppercase and lowercase versions of channel names into the channel xref table, so '/csay general' will work instead of just '/csay General' |
| 12:24.34 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/nanopar/. nanoPar. Torhal (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 12:24.35 | Kalroth | will '/csay GeNeRaL' work too?! |
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| 12:24.42 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/castyeller2/. CastYeller2. Adirelle (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 12:24.52 | Kalroth | Oh, I asked too early |
| 12:24.54 | Kalroth | will '/csay GeNeRaL' work too?! |
| 12:25.27 | sylvanaar | no |
| 12:25.54 | Kalroth | :( |
| 12:27.03 | sylvanaar | does it need to? |
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| 12:27.28 | Kalroth | then I'm not even going to ask about '/csay G3n3r4l' - it's discrimination against old school elite typers! |
| 12:27.39 | sylvanaar | among other things |
| 12:27.46 | steev | old school elite? |
| 12:27.57 | airtonix | -_- |
| 12:28.12 | Kalroth | yes, if you didn't type like that on the old warez dialup boards, then you weren't elite |
| 12:28.18 | sylvanaar | leet speek, was it ever leet |
| 12:28.29 | airtonix | and old skool was long before your time |
| 12:28.38 | Kalroth | haha |
| 12:28.43 | steev | Kalroth: or you were on the wrong boards |
| 12:28.54 | Kalroth | most likely |
| 12:28.55 | airtonix | it involved jumping fences and carry bags of krylons into train yards |
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| 12:29.40 | sylvanaar | im old enough to have had a 2600 whistle from my own cereal box |
| 12:29.44 | Lywellyn | Thanks for the help everyone, gonna see how Buffalo works out for me, have it set up now. :) |
| 12:29.49 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r182 / (2 files in 1 directory): YurrCombatLog: |
| 12:30.01 | Repo | - update .pkgmeta and toc |
| 12:30.02 | Kalroth | I remember leeching a 120kb arj archive of 16 color porn images on my 1200 baud modem |
| 12:30.03 | kenlyric | you have your own cereal? |
| 12:30.10 | kenlyric | is it like captain crunch, hard and bitter? |
| 12:30.16 | airtonix | muwahaha |
| 12:30.17 | sylvanaar | tis |
| 12:30.26 | sylvanaar | and blue |
| 12:30.43 | Grum | Kalroth: and they all turned out to be males? |
| 12:30.55 | Kalroth | Grum: Yeah, that's how I got into male porn |
| 12:31.07 | Grum | still like it? |
| 12:31.09 | steev | interesting, i'm a dk and the wowarmory lists http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45866 as an upgrade |
| 12:31.27 | Kalroth | Grum: No, I mean I work as a male pornostar |
| 12:31.27 | Grum | steev: hitrating! |
| 12:31.27 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring 040.6beta3a * r183 : Tagging as 0.6beta3a |
| 12:31.35 | kenlyric | hit is hit |
| 12:31.45 | Kalroth | hit is shit |
| 12:31.46 | airtonix | because missing is fun right? |
| 12:31.54 | steev | im so far over hit rating right now its not even funny |
| 12:32.07 | steev | and i'm not gemmed or enchanted for hit |
| 12:32.12 | kenlyric | there should be a checkbox. "I don't need fucking hit" |
| 12:32.21 | steev | im sitting at 316 |
| 12:32.41 | Bruners | i just need more expertise as they fucked me over with the talent change |
| 12:33.02 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2026 / (4 files in 3 directories): Minor bugfixes |
| 12:33.06 | airtonix | incoming nerf to deathknights in patch 3.1.2 : death-knights can now only be used as bank alts and the only action they do is chat on /2 |
| 12:33.16 | Bruners | :) |
| 12:37.25 | kenlyric | I almost made a death knight bank alt |
| 12:37.35 | kenlyric | then figured every other jackass would do the same thing |
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| 13:04.46 | steev | well thats interesting |
| 13:04.54 | steev | Titansteel Deflector still shows up in wowarmory |
| 13:06.32 | Kalroth | sure, so does a lot of items that aren't available in the game :p |
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| 13:08.20 | Fisker- | yo momma! |
| 13:08.47 | steev | thats what i was thinking |
| 13:10.43 | pentium166 | yo momma's so fat, wowhead lists her as a zone |
| 13:10.45 | pentium166 | .. |
| 13:11.28 | steev | ZING |
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| 13:15.38 | Fisker- | yo momma's so fat that she can't be listed due to only leaving room for 200 search results |
| 13:15.39 | Fisker- | hoho |
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| 13:18.07 | Bruners | Do BT4 support the talent spec changing ? and or is it working with default bars? |
| 13:18.22 | dodga | Bruners: works for me |
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| 13:22.50 | Repo | 10tankmastery: 03ahmetqw * r3 TankMastery.toc: Initial check-in. |
| 13:23.35 | Repo | 10tankmastery: 03ahmetqw * r4 TankMastery.xml: Initial check-in. |
| 13:23.35 | Repo | 10tankmastery: 03ahmetqw * r5 TankMastery.lua: Initial check-in. |
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| 13:31.02 | EthanCentaurai | @describe tankmastery |
| 13:31.20 | sylvanaar | orionshock make sickofclickingteleporters |
| 13:31.22 | Repo | EthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/tankmastery/. TankMastery. TankMastery is an addon for mainly tanks. When used, it watches your target, and produces a raid/party message if your target gets taunted/knocked-back/mocked. It is mainly created to encourage... |
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| 13:31.31 | yoshimo | if im exalted with the bloodsail buccaneers, will i get back to hatred if i hand in quests in everlook? |
| 13:32.15 | Bruners | nope |
| 13:32.59 | EthanCentaurai | you can only reach honoured with them anyway |
| 13:32.59 | Bruners | yoshimo: you should do ratchet->bootybay->gadgetzan->everlook |
| 13:34.00 | yoshimo | if you look at insane in the membrane , you can get exalted, and this is what i do , because im bored ;) |
| 13:34.51 | yoshimo | but i dont know if goblin quests ( apart from the cloth turnins ) give negative reputation with the pirates |
| 13:35.47 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ananhaid * r561 Storm_Peaks/LittleWigs_Storm_Peaks.toc: LittleWigs: |
| 13:35.51 | Repo | - rename zhCN/zhTW Ulduar to The Storm Peaks. |
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| 13:56.14 | dodga | yoshimo: Freeing the goblin in Dire Maul does not impact Bloodsail reputation AFIAK |
| 13:56.30 | dodga | but is tedious, as anything in the instance can drop the key |
| 13:57.01 | yoshimo | i was thinking abiut the "normal" quests you get from npcs in the area, for example when you level in winterspring |
| 13:57.31 | dodga | Hm dunno, did those quest when I leveled up, which was like... 3-4 years ago :D |
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| 14:09.20 | yoshimo | well you probably wont see any negative rep because you dont have rep with the pirates in nmost cases ;) |
| 14:10.04 | yoshimo | also the bleed over between all the golblin factions isnt shown ingame |
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| 14:10.28 | yoshimo | kill bb guards and all of a sudden youre hated with everlook ;) |
| 14:12.47 | dodga | ehehe |
| 14:13.52 | yoshimo | wowhead should be more precise about reputation :P |
| 14:13.56 | Repo | 10tankmastery: 03ahmetqw * r6 TankMastery.lua: added a comment... just testing... |
| 14:17.17 | Repo | 10tankmastery: 03ahmetqw 04v0.1 * r7 : Tagging as v0.1 |
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| 14:20.20 | Pneumatus | why oh why does UnitCreatureType return a localized type :< |
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| 14:22.56 | jnwhiteh | Pneumatus: so you can display it on unit frames and tooltips without needing to localize :P |
| 14:23.29 | Pneumatus | using it to lookup an icon or something is /facepalm though |
| 14:25.45 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2027 / (13 files in 8 directories): - Revamped the non combat pet pages and added new pets |
| 14:25.48 | Repo | - Small other fixes |
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| 14:39.31 | Hjalte | Fisker- or anyone else, is Windows Live Messenger also creating two icons on the task bar in Windows 7 for you? |
| 14:40.36 | Stanzilla | yeah :/ |
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| 14:43.51 | Fisker- | yeah Hjalte |
| 14:43.54 | Fisker- | it's a feature etc. |
| 14:45.13 | kadrahil | how much expertise is the passive orc racial? |
| 14:45.23 | kadrahil | for axes i mean |
| 14:45.51 | Bruners | 5 |
| 14:45.56 | kadrahil | mmk |
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| 14:47.25 | Repo | 10tankmastery: 03ahmetqw * r8 TankMastery.toc: TOC updates |
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| 15:12.02 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03karzon13 * r755 Data/Shaman.lua: |
| 15:12.05 | Repo | Changes to Shaman.lua. Fixed Lava Burst talents, though the base is still screwy. Fixed Booming Echoes and cleaned things up for accuracy in general. |
| 15:12.09 | Repo | Healing base is correct, but there seems to be missing talent interaction. |
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| 15:15.33 | yoshimo | i know there is an integrated method to schedule an event within ace via script. how do i repeat one sound every 7minutes? |
| 15:18.38 | ckknight | :ScheduleRepeatingTimer(func, 7 * 60) |
| 15:20.27 | Pneumatus | hmm, ace3 doesnt have HasModule()? is the preferred way to GetModule("name", true) then check for nil? |
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| 15:24.01 | yoshimo | ckknight, how would i use that in a /script? |
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| 15:26.08 | Pneumatus | /script LibStub("AceTimer-3.0"):ScheduleRepeatingTimer(function() DOSTUFFHERE end, 7*60) |
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| 15:26.44 | Pneumatus | dunno how you'd go about cancelling it though :) |
| 15:26.45 | [Ammo] | Pneumatus: if blah:GetModule("name", true) then .. |
| 15:26.47 | [Ammo] | same as HasModule |
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| 15:27.28 | [Ammo] | no real reason for a HasModule |
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| 15:27.52 | winkiller | HasBukkit! |
| 15:28.09 | yoshimo | pneumatus, how about alt+f4? |
| 15:28.22 | Pneumatus | [Ammo]: it would save an assignment (or function call) if the module doesnt exist |
| 15:29.08 | [Ammo] | not really |
| 15:29.18 | Pneumatus | if you need to access the module, you're either going to do local f = a:GetModule("name", true); if f then ... end, OR if a:GetModule("name", true) then local f = a:GetModule("name") ... end |
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| 15:29.38 | [Ammo] | the end is the same |
| 15:29.52 | [Ammo] | besides you're not going to bloody check for a module every fricking update are you? |
| 15:30.05 | [Ammo] | GetModule basically does: return self.modules[name] |
| 15:30.14 | [Ammo] | but with an extra check for silent to not error if it doesn't exist |
| 15:30.52 | Pneumatus | yeh, the code is only run once |
| 15:31.03 | Pneumatus | so it's not really a big deal |
| 15:31.06 | [Ammo] | basically, use getmule with a true value |
| 15:31.11 | [Ammo] | getmodule |
| 15:31.22 | [Ammo] | it has an advantage too if the module is there :) |
| 15:31.30 | [Ammo] | you immediately have a ref to it :) |
| 15:31.54 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r4 / (4 files in 2 directories): Finished rewriting code to use internal callbacks. |
| 15:31.57 | Repo | Reworked the configuration GUI. |
| 15:32.00 | Repo | Added the funny announce system. |
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| 15:40.39 | Fisker- | who's awesome? |
| 15:40.40 | Fisker- | I'm awesome |
| 15:40.58 | durcyn | no, you're danish |
| 15:41.00 | Axodious | you're karma says otherwise |
| 15:41.02 | durcyn | decidedly not awesome |
| 15:41.03 | Xuerian | pats Fisker- on the head. |
| 15:41.05 | Axodious | er your |
| 15:41.21 | durcyn | ~fisker--- |
| 15:41.22 | Xuerian | We know you like imitating bad 4chan motivational memes, we don't think any less of you |
| 15:41.30 | Xuerian | Now, taking it in the pooper.. that might loose you some points |
| 15:41.42 | durcyn | Xuerian: yeah, well, we don't think any -more- of him for it either, though. |
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| 15:43.32 | Xuerian | durcyn: Maybe not, but did you expect anything else? :P |
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| 15:46.52 | Fisker- | awesome durcyn |
| 15:47.17 | Fisker- | 4chan Xinhuan ? |
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| 15:53.21 | Xuerian | parries Fisker-'s blow, by deflecting the ping at his evil twin. |
| 15:55.36 | Bruners | 4chan is temporarily down |
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| 16:01.13 | Xuerian | Bruners: It WAS. |
| 16:01.24 | Bruners | the pages that matter are still down |
| 16:01.30 | Bruners | but fear not, 7chan is up |
| 16:04.36 | Xuerian | go back into your hole /b/tard |
| 16:04.57 | Xuerian | or loic yourself again D: |
| 16:07.14 | Fisker- | Xuerian |
| 16:07.21 | Fisker- | I just took _2_ Death Knights |
| 16:07.24 | Fisker- | one of them being tank specced |
| 16:07.34 | Fisker- | Surely that warrants being awesome |
| 16:07.45 | Xuerian | Fisker-: As? Respective gear levels? |
| 16:07.54 | Bruners | just proves that paladins are still OP |
| 16:08.03 | Fisker- | naw |
| 16:08.04 | Xuerian | Oh, as a paladin? lol. |
| 16:08.05 | Fisker- | <-skilled |
| 16:08.14 | Fisker- | i also sniped the one of them from the sky |
| 16:08.25 | Xuerian | It's true in D&D and it's true in WoW, paladins faceroll DKs |
| 16:08.27 | Fisker- | surviving because of great [Unusual Compass] micro |
| 16:08.35 | Fisker- | and lol naw |
| 16:08.44 | Fisker- | paladins are absolutely terrible against DK's |
| 16:08.51 | Fisker- | atleast non-pvp specced |
| 16:09.03 | Xuerian | I'd beg to differ. |
| 16:09.08 | Fisker- | I can get pretty much oneshotted by a geared DK with DRW |
| 16:09.09 | Xuerian | My prot pally lol's at dks |
| 16:09.18 | Fisker- | yeah but i'm ret |
| 16:09.24 | Fisker- | and all tanks lol at melee |
| 16:10.25 | Fisker- | still think it was pretty awesome though |
| 16:10.29 | Fisker- | Sniping a DK out of the air |
| 16:10.44 | Fisker- | Falling together and then use unusual compass, hitting the ground with like 5% hp left |
| 16:10.51 | Fisker- | And just seeing him rage about it |
| 16:12.16 | Fisker- | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/26/16903512565-mimiron-plasma-prot-warrior.html <-can you even get 4p T8 without mimiron? :P |
| 16:13.03 | durcyn | Fisker-: emalon and badges |
| 16:13.56 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Detseuqer * r756 Data/Priest.lua: DrDamage: |
| 16:14.00 | Repo | -Updated Shadow Power and Mind Melt talents in Priest.lua. |
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| 16:19.45 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Well, I'll give you that it was awesome for being midaired |
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| 16:29.48 | Fisker- | yay |
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| 17:12.42 | renchap | i am looking for a questfu replacement |
| 17:12.51 | renchap | with party status display |
| 17:12.55 | renchap | is it one ? |
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| 17:35.25 | waallen | DogTags using 14MB while being in combat on the iron concil, ouch |
| 17:39.39 | Repo | 10skg_web: 03Jabouty * r12 / (7 files in 4 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 17:39.42 | Repo | * Removed upgrade system prior to 1.7.0-beta. All users running a version that is less than 1.7.0-beta should delete all SKG files and completely remove all database entries for SKG before reinstalling the system (keeping the backup files in the /files/ directory). |
| 17:39.45 | Repo | * Added redirect to SKG.lua upload form for those users that are not admin, but are allowed to upload their SKG.lua file per wowace ticket: http://www.wowace.com/projects/skg_web/tickets/3-redirect-non-admin/ |
| 17:39.49 | Repo | * Added Last update time for lists to embed.php per request: http://www.wowace.com/projects/skg_web/tickets/2-date-stamp-on-embed-list/ |
| 17:39.55 | Repo | * The following *should* fix the problems noted in wowace ticket: http://www.wowace.com/projects/skg_web/tickets/4-cross-os-login-failure/ |
| 17:40.33 | Hjalte | What is the popular tactic for P3 of Mimiron on 25-man? We seem to struggle there. |
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| 17:41.14 | durcyn | Hjalte: save up two disables then burn him down through both |
| 17:41.43 | Pneumatus | ranged bunch up, 1 tank soaks the bomb bots, 1 tank takes care of the little shit bots, 1 ranged kites the assault bots |
| 17:41.52 | Shefki | waallen: Umm so, memory isn't really indicative of performance. |
| 17:41.56 | Pneumatus | assault bots are slowed + nuked |
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| 17:43.57 | waallen | Shefki: yeah, you are right; I've been having that with the latest alpha which supposedly fixed a memory leak. I've rolled back to the release version and it looks fine now anyway |
| 17:46.03 | waallen | That memory usage was combined with some DPS loss though |
| 17:47.52 | Repo | 10skg_web: 03Jabouty 041.7.5-beta * r13 : Tagging as 1.7.5-beta |
| 17:51.38 | Antiarc | Quick ponderance - |
| 17:51.46 | Antiarc | Is there an addon that tracks where you've been, heatmap style? |
| 17:52.04 | Antiarc | I think it'd be awesome to see a heatmap over Northrend, showing where I spend my time and my travel routes and such |
| 17:52.16 | durcyn | there once was a Cartographer_HeatMap, way back in the day |
| 17:52.30 | durcyn | it's been abandoned for something like a year |
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| 17:57.52 | Xuerian | It was abandoned like a week after it was made... Who was making that, anyway? |
| 17:58.43 | kadrahil | @project cartographer_heatmap |
| 17:58.44 | Repo | kadrahil: No project found that matches 'cartographer_heatmap' |
| 17:59.34 | Hjalte | durcyn and Pneumatus, thanks a lot. |
| 17:59.55 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r211 FlightHUD.lua: Remove a bunch of debug code. |
| 17:59.59 | durcyn | @project cartographer_heat-map |
| 18:00.00 | Repo | durcyn: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-13621/. Cartographer_HeatMap. Game: WoW. wowaceSVN (Manager/Author). Updated: 377 days ago |
| 18:00.16 | kadrahil | 377 days ago :/ |
| 18:00.18 | NeoTron | so I am thinking tanking the assault bots would work fine now |
| 18:00.30 | NeoTron | since they changed them I've tanked 1-2 hits and not died as melee dps |
| 18:00.40 | NeoTron | DK so plate + boneshield but still |
| 18:00.58 | NeoTron | we didn't try since our ranged dps kiting worked fine |
| 18:01.12 | kadrahil | do you guys raid any frost dps spec dk's? |
| 18:01.17 | NeoTron | P3 is really a rather easy fight |
| 18:01.20 | NeoTron | yes |
| 18:01.32 | NeoTron | one of the tanks is frost |
| 18:01.39 | kadrahil | well, i meant as a 2h DPS spec |
| 18:01.56 | kadrahil | say something like http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMzZG0xxAbIkc0V0stfM |
| 18:01.59 | kadrahil | (i just made that up) |
| 18:02.15 | NeoTron | he's frost dps when he's not tanking |
| 18:02.20 | kadrahil | oh, heh |
| 18:02.35 | NeoTron | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Valenguard |
| 18:03.00 | NeoTron | it appears he's trying blood tanking atm |
| 18:03.08 | kadrahil | yeah i've seen a few that are |
| 18:03.29 | kadrahil | it appears he kept 5/5 dark conviction for frost, i think frost dps still relies heavily on crit |
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| 18:03.37 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.08 | kadrahil | yeah i'm not sure either, i want to try it out sometime |
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| 18:06.09 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03karzon13 * r757 Data/DeathKnight.lua: |
| 18:06.12 | Repo | Updated DeathKnight.lua based on better understanding of how global damage modifiers work. |
| 18:08.05 | Repo | 10tankmastery: 03ahmetqw * r9 / (3 files in 1 directory): * Hunter: Distracting Shot support added (as Mock) |
| 18:08.08 | Repo | * Stance and Class based auto enable/disabling implemented. |
| 18:08.11 | Repo | * XML correction |
| 18:11.29 | yoshimo | AddOns\BigWigs_Extras\Version.lua line 150: attempt to compare number with nil , happened after todays update |
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| 18:22.50 | Repo | 10tankmastery: 03ahmetqw 040.2 * r10 : Tagging as 0.2 |
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| 18:24.43 | Hjalte | What settings can I change to be able to see void zones etc on the ground better? |
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| 18:25.13 | durcyn | Hjalte: projected textures on, particle density down until it's manageable |
| 18:26.45 | Hjalte | durcyn: I'm having trouble seeing the red rocket spot on Mimiron in melee, with all the DK stuff on the ground. |
| 18:27.43 | NeoTron | Hjalte: it's very hard to see period |
| 18:27.52 | NeoTron | especially in melee. too hard imho |
| 18:28.12 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/anchorman/. The legend of Ron Burgandy. saintofsin518 (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 18:28.53 | Grum | oh slack where is zarni! http://paste.wowace.com/579/ |
| 18:28.59 | Hjalte | NeoTron: It's also hard to see beneath me, bear tank, in P4 :\ |
| 18:29.25 | NeoTron | Hjalte: our MT died around 20% p2 |
| 18:29.30 | NeoTron | and a dps dk tanked the rest |
| 18:29.34 | NeoTron | so indeed |
| 18:29.58 | kadrahil | that's what i like about my dk |
| 18:30.08 | Repo | 10fontain: 03Antiarc 07master * 9602db4 Fontain.toc: [+1 commit] Update the TOC |
| 18:30.16 | kadrahil | tank dies, i swap to frost presence and pick it up |
| 18:30.21 | kadrahil | ;/ |
| 18:31.24 | Fisker- | i just "pick it up" and die |
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| 18:36.21 | Gnarfoz | is anyone up to speed as to how up to date the CCbreaker part of BigBrother is, or how up to date CCBreaker (the stand-alone addon) is? |
| 18:36.47 | Gnarfoz | regarding accuracy, awareness of spellIDs, new CLEU events that have been added since their inception |
| 18:36.59 | Gnarfoz | can't really gleam much from either of their short changelogs |
| 18:37.12 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: use Crybaby imo |
| 18:37.23 | Gnarfoz | that's a good answer, too |
| 18:37.27 | durcyn | i split it out from the bigbrother stuff a while ago |
| 18:37.28 | Gnarfoz | @project crybaby |
| 18:37.30 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/crybaby/. Crybaby. Game: WoW. durcyn (Manager/Author). Updated: 19 days ago |
| 18:37.45 | Gnarfoz | (why didn't you just take over CCBreaker? ^^) |
| 18:38.06 | durcyn | i didn't know it existed? |
| 18:38.11 | durcyn | plus, better name, obviously. |
| 18:38.29 | Gnarfoz | hm. the CCbreaker part in BB itself was just copied in, heh |
| 18:38.31 | Gnarfoz | ironic, kinda |
| 18:39.10 | durcyn | i still don't know why that was ever added to a buff check addon |
| 18:39.11 | durcyn | but whatever |
| 18:39.19 | ckknight | durcyn: give that project a better description |
| 18:39.58 | Gnarfoz | however, Crybaby seems to be even less 'updated' |
| 18:40.11 | Gnarfoz | however... it might just be made generic enough to not need updates ;) |
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| 18:40.24 | durcyn | define 'updated', it's not like new CC is being added every patch |
| 18:40.26 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. does it know black cat polymorph? rabbit polymorph?) |
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| 18:40.51 | Gnarfoz | well, see above :D |
| 18:41.25 | durcyn | none of the new polymorphs have unique buff names |
| 18:42.17 | durcyn | take a look at SPELL_AURA_BROKEN / SPELL_AURA_BROKEN_SPELL events from your combatlog sometime ;) |
| 18:43.33 | Pneumatus | vhaarr: are you aware that theres only a timer bar for yogg's first portal in p2, not the subsequent portals? |
| 18:44.01 | durcyn | ckknight: fixed |
| 18:44.14 | ckknight | bah |
| 18:44.16 | ckknight | that's hardly fixed |
| 18:44.21 | durcyn | that's all it does, man. |
| 18:44.23 | ckknight | but I'm not nearly agitated enough to care |
| 18:44.36 | ckknight | :P |
| 18:45.44 | Repo | New knowledge base page: http://kb.wowace.com/policy/drama/ by Kaelten |
| 18:46.09 | Greltok | durcyn: Looks like it doesn't handle Hex? |
| 18:46.42 | durcyn | Greltok: i don't believe hex gets a break event, i'll take a look though |
| 18:47.04 | Greltok | BigBrother reports it, although it incorrectly reports that it was broken by the casting shaman. |
| 18:47.13 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: names? can't this be done by ID by now? >_> |
| 18:47.19 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/policy/drama/ by ckknight |
| 18:47.46 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: ffs, the name table is generated by spell ID so all ranks work |
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| 18:48.17 | Gnarfoz | so you're counting on blizzard being consistent |
| 18:48.18 | Shefki | ZOMG drama. |
| 18:48.27 | ckknight | it's the old drama policy |
| 18:48.44 | ckknight | things have been relatively drama-free within the addon community itself for a while |
| 18:48.47 | kadrahil | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/index.html |
| 18:48.49 | kadrahil | rofl |
| 18:48.59 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: I've yet to see a spell in any translation that has different names for different ranks. |
| 18:49.18 | Shefki | ckknight: *shrug* Kaelten was complaining about some sort of drama last night. |
| 18:49.39 | durcyn | Shefki: people are throwing fits over the curse client |
| 18:50.14 | Shefki | Umm why? |
| 18:50.38 | durcyn | because 'update all' costs money, which they don't want to pay |
| 18:50.48 | Shefki | I don't even use updateall... |
| 18:51.03 | Shefki | I actually want to read the changelog for everything. |
| 18:52.05 | durcyn | Greltok: there's definitely no break event for Hex, complain to blizzard |
| 18:52.12 | Shefki | Umm some addon called Progression Quest is showing up as the update for TomTom |
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| 18:52.17 | durcyn | same as Fear |
| 18:52.21 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 18:53.08 | ckknight | Shefki: but that's wowmatrix v. curse, not author v. author |
| 18:53.11 | Shefki | Installed: Horde (Released: 2009/04/27) |
| 18:53.18 | ckknight | jnwhiteh: oh yea |
| 18:53.24 | Shefki | Latest: Horde v1.09.430 (Released 2009/04/30) |
| 18:53.32 | Shefki | Installation Folders: TomTom |
| 18:53.38 | jnwhiteh | wtfzors |
| 18:53.44 | ckknight | jnwhiteh: http://paste.wowace.com/569/ |
| 18:54.22 | jnwhiteh | thanks ckk, will try to take a look in a bit |
| 18:54.36 | ckknight | jnwhiteh: nowhere near done |
| 18:54.40 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 18:55.38 | Greltok | durcyn: Looks like BigBrother handles it with SPELL_AURA_REMOVED. |
| 18:57.45 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: turn undead/turn evil? :p |
| 18:58.27 | Shefki | Umm isn't it just Turn Evil now? |
| 18:58.57 | durcyn | Greltok: that includes normal fades |
| 18:59.05 | Greltok | Yeah. |
| 18:59.05 | maqr | if i wanted to announce a warrior's Mortal Strike on me in arena, what would be the sanest way to check for it? is that something i'd parse the combat log for? |
| 18:59.18 | Fisker- | vhaarr |
| 18:59.21 | Greltok | It only uses that for a few specific auras. |
| 18:59.22 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Yup all ranks are Turn Evil... Turn Undead is just a NPC spell now. |
| 18:59.26 | Greltok | Like Hex. |
| 18:59.30 | Fisker- | why no flashing screen on the aoe stuff in phase 1 on mimiron? |
| 18:59.43 | Greltok | And Repentance. |
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| 19:00.13 | durcyn | actually, it looks like Repentance shows up in _BROKEN now |
| 19:02.27 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03karzon13 * r758 DrDamage.lua: |
| 19:02.29 | Repo | Updated DrDamage.lua with better global glyph support. Calls updates on adds, removes, and updates now. |
| 19:03.18 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: my asking is btw because of discrepancies between what BigBrother's CCbreaker reports and what CCBreaker reports. |
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| 19:09.52 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: i honestly haven't looked at either of thsoe in quite smoe time |
| 19:09.54 | durcyn | some* |
| 19:11.09 | Repo | 10skg_web: 03Jabouty * r14 / (5 files in 2 directories): Added Latest Loot Browser (will paginate later) |
| 19:11.12 | Repo | Users have a new option in the config.php file for the latest loot browser. |
| 19:11.15 | Repo | Please make sure to overwrite your config.php file and edit with your settings. |
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| 19:13.17 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: well, I'm basically just trying to find the one that misses none of those that are techincally possible to find detect, plus correct "blaming"^^ |
| 19:13.52 | Repo | 10crybaby: 03durcyn * r30 Crybaby.lua: |
| 19:13.55 | Repo | clean up some lingering string concatenations, add Repentance to the spell list |
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| 19:15.36 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/policy/drama/ by anmoch |
| 19:15.38 | Xinhuan | tekkub, ## X-LoadOn-Zone: Heb'Valok doesn't work in half the other locales, so there needs to be a better solution |
| 19:16.08 | tekkub | uh, I think AL will use babble zone if it's present |
| 19:16.20 | Xinhuan | babble doesn't even have Heb'Valok |
| 19:16.27 | Xinhuan | so either way it'll still fail |
| 19:17.00 | Xinhuan | i can't list a list of zones that are Heb'Valok's translations either |
| 19:17.19 | Xinhuan | because of the arg:gmatch('(%w[^,]%w)') |
| 19:17.42 | Xinhuan | which only looks for strings at least 3 letters long that start/end with A-Z0-9 |
| 19:18.04 | Xinhuan | so its not utf8 aware |
| 19:19.50 | Xinhuan | you can however, look at supporting GetCurrentMapID() (new in patch 3.1) |
| 19:19.55 | Xinhuan | which gives every zone a unique integer |
| 19:21.01 | Xinhuan | GetCurrentMapAreaID() i mean |
| 19:25.09 | Adirelle | tekkub: hi, I have some trouble with Cork in arenas |
| 19:25.19 | tekkub | k |
| 19:25.35 | Adirelle | tekkub: it tries to buff arena oponents |
| 19:26.03 | Adirelle | and this seems to be sticky, e.g. the tooltip still shows the unit ids (arena*) after I left it |
| 19:26.07 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/policy/drama/ by ckknight |
| 19:26.25 | tekkub | oh, the new unitids |
| 19:26.35 | tekkub | yea those should be blacklisted |
| 19:27.05 | Adirelle | actually I do know how it uses them in the first place |
| 19:27.14 | Adirelle | s/do/do not/ |
| 19:27.51 | tekkub | it's seeing aura events with those unitids on them |
| 19:28.09 | Adirelle | oh |
| 19:28.47 | tekkub | arena1 - arena5? |
| 19:28.53 | Repo | 10skg_web: 03Jabouty * r15 / (2 files in 2 directories): Forgot the actual loot pages ... dur |
| 19:28.56 | Adirelle | yep, arenapetX too |
| 19:30.09 | Adirelle | IMO a test to could check the player could be them could work too |
| 19:30.46 | tekkub | huh? |
| 19:31.20 | Adirelle | you can only buff unit you can assist, i.e. UnitCanAssist('player', unit) yields true |
| 19:34.50 | Adirelle | hrm... seems I should double-check my sentences before hiting enter ^^ |
| 19:36.01 | Adirelle | and on second thoughts, UnitCanAssist(...) would be mainly useful for 'target' |
| 19:36.05 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: BigBrother and CCBreaker e.g. tend to blame different people for the same event :< |
| 19:36.42 | Adirelle | anyway, I'm off for a while |
| 19:36.48 | Adirelle | is away: Away |
| 19:37.33 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: they should only be reporting off of the SPELL_AURA_BROKEN event, anything else is damage |
| 19:38.20 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 19:39.09 | Gnarfoz | also didn't all this S_A_REMOVED/BROKEN/ETC stuff get changed around lots after 2.4 |
| 19:39.24 | Gnarfoz | (not confident right now) |
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| 19:43.47 | tekkub | Adirelle: assist won't work because of mind control |
| 19:44.03 | Torhal | Feh |
| 19:44.04 | Hjalte | How many people can we let stand in the crash sites on Vezax? |
| 19:44.13 | Hjalte | 25-man |
| 19:44.25 | Torhal | tekkub: Now I get to bitch about Cork! |
| 19:44.35 | Torhal | It shouldn't tell me to summon my pet when I'm mounted. :D |
| 19:44.39 | Torhal | dances. |
| 19:44.59 | tekkub | I'm not a warlock, I can't fix that :P |
| 19:45.06 | NeoTron | Hjalte: depends on how fail the people are |
| 19:45.25 | Torhal | Bah. isMounted() FTW |
| 19:45.34 | Hjalte | NeoTron: We've got some fail people. Do you let all the casters use the same one? |
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| 19:46.21 | EthanCentaurai | tekkub: what's the usability status of fugit? |
| 19:46.30 | EthanCentaurai | git-gui is driving me mad |
| 19:46.41 | tekkub | it works, but I'm not likely to do any more work on it |
| 19:46.53 | tekkub | git-gui is fine except one stupid little thing |
| 19:47.10 | tekkub | telling the user about shit that git-gc takes care of |
| 19:47.17 | NeoTron | Hjalte: probably best not to at leasgt whilw learning |
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| 19:48.38 | EthanCentaurai | tekkub: it's just that I gave it a try and got this error: http://paste.wowace.com/580/ |
| 19:49.05 | tekkub | ha, you're not on windows |
| 19:49.06 | EthanCentaurai | probably did something wrong |
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| 19:49.21 | EthanCentaurai | it said "cross platform" so... |
| 19:49.26 | tekkub | I only tested on windows... not really any point to it on mac |
| 19:49.41 | tekkub | cross platform cause it's ruby and wxwidgets ^^ |
| 19:49.50 | EthanCentaurai | ahh |
| 19:49.52 | tekkub | some tweaks and it should run on nix |
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| 19:50.00 | nicoli_s | yer using wx tekkub? i feel for ya |
| 19:50.19 | tekkub | it's the best of all the ones ruby has that I found |
| 19:50.57 | tekkub | shoes was a fucking joke, uh, FOX was it? didn't have stuff I needed |
| 19:51.01 | mitchnull | that's what you get for choosing ruby ;) |
| 19:51.44 | tekkub | I tried c++ first |
| 19:51.50 | tekkub | that lasted all of 10 minutes |
| 19:52.24 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r60 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added class icons to tooltip. |
| 19:52.28 | Repo | Added Icons/GHOST.tga |
| 19:52.30 | mitchnull | tekkub: c++ and wx? |
| 19:52.31 | Repo | Added Icons/UNKNOWN.tga |
| 19:52.34 | mitchnull | or c++ and qt? |
| 19:52.47 | tekkub | c++ and anything :P |
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| 19:52.54 | mitchnull | meh |
| 19:54.50 | ckknight | tekkub: shoes is pretty cooll |
| 19:54.52 | ckknight | cool* |
| 19:55.05 | ckknight | :P |
| 19:55.11 | ckknight | I haven't messed with it, though |
| 19:55.29 | ckknight | just seen demos |
| 19:55.33 | tekkub | it *looks* cool, but it lacked enough widget types to be useful |
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| 19:55.47 | tekkub | and it was a bitch to get things to lay out how I wanted |
| 19:56.46 | Pneumatus | hmm, why doesnt LibBabble-CreatureType have Totem |
| 19:56.48 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/policy/drama/ by Kaelten |
| 19:57.23 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/abandoned-project-policy/ by Ackis |
| 19:57.27 | Pneumatus | or Non-combat Pet |
| 19:57.46 | Pneumatus | /facepalm |
| 19:58.49 | Pneumatus | Kemayo: any reason why a few of the returns from UnitCreatureType() arent listed in LibBabble-CreatureType? |
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| 20:02.48 | Torhal | Kaelten: Is it "sign" or "sing"? You have both in regards to the Hymn. :D |
| 20:03.23 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/policy/drama/ by Kaelten |
| 20:04.00 | Repo | 10ulduarwarp: 03DigitalSorceress * r2 / (7 files in 1 directory): UlduarWarp: Initial Import |
| 20:04.00 | kadrahil | NeoTron: ping |
| 20:04.03 | Repo | - TOTALLY dry-coded, DON'T expect it to work |
| 20:04.18 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03karzon13 * r759 Data/DeathKnight.lua: |
| 20:04.21 | Repo | Fixed third disease multiplier problem. DrDamage now counts Crypt Fever and Ebon Plague in addition to Blood Plague and Frost Fever. Some more talents fixed. |
| 20:04.48 | Greltok | Kaelten: should "in mass" be "en masse"? |
| 20:06.07 | Torhal | So, can I negate the drama-inducing effets my prefacing "That new feature is useless!" with "In my opinion, "? :D |
| 20:06.14 | Torhal | effects* |
| 20:06.23 | Torhal | cackles. |
| 20:06.24 | kadrahil | haha |
| 20:06.44 | kadrahil | should be like, "in my opinion, that feature is completely useless, and so are you!" |
| 20:06.47 | Kaelten | possible |
| 20:07.01 | Tentacled | Hmmm. The only way to cast a spell or use an item from an addon is to create an ActionButton and have the user click it, correct? No way to script-create the actionbutton and call its onclick and walk away happy? The script stems from a user's click action anyway... |
| 20:07.01 | ckknight | hey all, we get lua tracebacks now |
| 20:07.03 | ckknight | hurray! |
| 20:07.12 | ckknight | paste.wowace.com supports Lua Traceback |
| 20:07.56 | NeoTron | kadrahil: hmm? |
| 20:08.16 | kadrahil | NeoTron: just wondering what your opinions are on this potential 2h dps spec - http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMzZG0xxAbIkc0V0stfM |
| 20:08.28 | kadrahil | NeoTron: i might have linked it earlier but you were busy talking about yogg i think |
| 20:10.02 | kadrahil | NeoTron: the only thing i might do is take the 4 points from epidemic and viscious strikes for 4% more crit, which would result in a tighter rotation |
| 20:10.11 | kadrahil | er, vicious |
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| 20:13.29 | NeoTron | maintenance :P |
| 20:13.32 | NeoTron | is it a frost spec? |
| 20:13.36 | kadrahil | yeah |
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| 20:13.52 | NeoTron | i will admit I know very little about frost |
| 20:13.55 | kadrahil | oh hah, i've had that page up for a while, didn't know they were in maintenance |
| 20:14.16 | AckisWork | sylvanaar: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1306-add-x-tag-to-toc-to-indicate-dependencies/ |
| 20:14.20 | NeoTron | I beta I played frost for a while when it was rediculously OP |
| 20:14.27 | kadrahil | NeoTron: fair enough |
| 20:14.30 | NeoTron | in Live I've played almost exclusively unholy |
| 20:14.34 | kadrahil | same here |
| 20:14.50 | kadrahil | i dabbled with frost a little right before i quit and the single target dps was right on par with my unholy spec |
| 20:15.01 | kadrahil | but it doesn't scale as well with raid buffs |
| 20:15.01 | Fisker- | general vezax is craaaaaaazy :E |
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| 20:21.19 | sb|work | Fisker-: easy... :/ |
| 20:21.22 | sb|work | yogg saron sucks *sigh* |
| 20:22.14 | Gnarfoz | @project ulduarwarp |
| 20:22.16 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ulduarwarp/. UlduarWarp. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. DigitalSorceress (Manager/Author). Updated: 17 minutes ago |
| 20:22.32 | Repo | 10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r82 ClassLoot_Data.lua: - 1 Item Changed |
| 20:25.24 | durcyn | shoulda called it "ulduwarp", am i right |
| 20:25.42 | NeoTron | @describe ulduarwarp |
| 20:25.43 | Repo | NeoTron: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ulduarwarp/. UlduarWarp. UlduarWarp was inspired by Reenachen on the wowace forums. Simply put, it aims to make taking the teleporters in Ulduar a bit more streamlined. v0.0.01 - 2009/05/04 - TOTALLY dry-coded and guaranteed... |
| 20:26.51 | Fisker- | what the shit? |
| 20:27.16 | kadrahil | lol |
| 20:29.19 | Xinhuan | streamlined? |
| 20:29.22 | Xinhuan | like what? |
| 20:30.10 | pentium166 | maybe bigger buttons instead of small lines to click on |
| 20:30.20 | pentium166 | that's what i'd do at least |
| 20:30.29 | Xinhuan | oh appears to be an addon to auto teleport u |
| 20:30.39 | Xinhuan | based on a preselected destination on fubar or something |
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| 20:45.38 | AckisWork | @project curseforge |
| 20:45.40 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 384 days ago. Tickets: 161/1396 |
| 20:45.56 | Kaelten | ? |
| 20:46.15 | Xinhuan | he didn't ping you |
| 20:46.15 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 20:47.44 | AckisWork | oh sorry |
| 20:47.54 | Kaelten | :ASDKFLAKSDF:LADKF~ |
| 20:47.56 | Kaelten | :P |
| 20:48.09 | durcyn | ~kick AckisWork |
| 20:48.10 | purl | ACTION kicks AckisWork |
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| 20:49.27 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r138 / (2 files in 2 directories): - anchor map icon tooltips to mouse cursor |
| 20:55.05 | Fisker- | lol |
| 20:55.08 | Fisker- | vezax bunny |
| 20:55.11 | AckisWork | ping belazor |
| 20:55.19 | AckisWork | bah |
| 20:55.22 | AckisWork | ~seen belazor |
| 20:55.27 | purl | belazor <n=Vulcanus@95.34.67.163.customer.cdi.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 59d 4h 50m 53s ago, saying: 'It's "union of soviet commie bastards" as a collective :p'. |
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| 20:55.32 | AckisWork | wtf |
| 20:55.33 | sylvanaar | AckisWork what? |
| 20:55.38 | AckisWork | rawr |
| 20:55.48 | AckisWork | sylvanaar: I just made a reply to that ticket you posted |
| 20:56.01 | AckisWork | (well not just, but an hour or two ago)... was giving you a heads up |
| 20:57.31 | sylvanaar | AckisWork lol, k - ya know curse actually removed all the x-embeds tags that were there to begin with - thats all im going to say |
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| 20:57.55 | AckisWork | they do? |
| 20:58.03 | Primer | What event should I use to call another addon's callback registration function? |
| 20:58.04 | sylvanaar | did - they are gone |
| 20:58.12 | Primer | if OtherAddon then <-- avoid chicken/egg |
| 20:58.53 | maqr | anyone else notice prat break on the latest update? the text is all spaced out oddly |
| 20:58.54 | durcyn | Primer: i'd start IsAddOnLoaded() instead of arbitrary globals |
| 20:59.01 | durcyn | with* |
| 20:59.10 | Primer | It seems that the other addon might not be loaded when mine is checking |
| 20:59.17 | Pneumatus | optdep it |
| 20:59.21 | Primer | well, I registered for ADDON_LOADED |
| 20:59.34 | kadrahil | guys |
| 20:59.51 | Primer | Pneumatus: so optdep ensures the other addon, if installed, loads before mine? |
| 20:59.52 | kadrahil | i've been idling in here for long enough, i think should actually code an addon now |
| 20:59.58 | Pneumatus | Primer: correct |
| 21:00.00 | kadrahil | and by long enough i mean a couple of years :| |
| 21:00.04 | Primer | Pneumatus: ok, thanks |
| 21:00.06 | sylvanaar | maqr no idea - works for me |
| 21:00.13 | Jamash | kadrahil: do you have any wow itches you want to scratch? |
| 21:00.33 | kadrahil | Jamash: not really, not yet anyway |
| 21:00.52 | Jamash | I wrote my addon because I was pissed off at the default UI, so try to think of something you think the game should do but doesn't yet |
| 21:00.52 | maqr | sylvanaar: weird |
| 21:01.02 | kadrahil | Jamash: oh of course |
| 21:01.19 | kadrahil | Jamash: that's pretty much how you should approach coding anything, not just wow addons |
| 21:01.41 | sylvanaar | AckisWork you following my logic? |
| 21:02.07 | kadrahil | if i follow your logic would it lead me to leaving work early and heading home? |
| 21:03.25 | sylvanaar | maqr take a screenshot lets see |
| 21:05.25 | maqr | sylvanaar: ok, i'll post |
| 21:05.42 | Primer | heh, I have this --> ##OptionalDeps: Ace3, Astrolabe, LibAboutPanel |
| 21:05.47 | Primer | and they're not optional at all |
| 21:05.53 | Primer | they're most definitely required |
| 21:06.15 | sylvanaar | thats so 2006 |
| 21:06.22 | Xinhuan | they are optional, because when those libs are embedded in your addon, the standalone versions are optional |
| 21:06.30 | Droolio | astrolabe doesn't come with a .toc, has to be embedded |
| 21:06.54 | sylvanaar | thats called "passive agressive embedding" |
| 21:07.05 | maqr | sylvanaar: http://maqr.jtaby.com/wow/WoWScrnShot_050409_170207.jpg ... see how it's all weirdly spaced out? it's like it skips a few lines of text or something, only the last two messages sent display reliably |
| 21:07.36 | sylvanaar | maqr wow that looks awful |
| 21:08.26 | kadrahil | that's a huge resolution :S |
| 21:08.36 | Xinhuan | that's a lot of charts maqr |
| 21:08.55 | Xinhuan | are they even useful |
| 21:08.56 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 21:09.20 | sylvanaar | you're doing something unusual to make that happen |
| 21:09.55 | maqr | sylvanaar: nope |
| 21:10.02 | maqr | sylvanaar: it worked fine until i just updated the addon |
| 21:10.19 | sylvanaar | idk |
| 21:10.40 | sylvanaar | what else got updated |
| 21:10.41 | Hirsute | Okay... what is "DTPS"? |
| 21:11.11 | maqr | sylvanaar: i'm not sure, exactly, but i'm pretty sure it's prat that's causing the weirdness |
| 21:11.16 | durcyn | Hirsute: damage taken per second |
| 21:11.21 | maqr | sylvanaar: my combat log displays fine |
| 21:11.44 | AckisWork | @project curseforge |
| 21:11.45 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 384 days ago. Tickets: 152/1396 |
| 21:11.47 | Torhal | Shit. Fucking GUI SVN clients have me all fucked up. |
| 21:11.53 | Hirsute | durcyn: Ah, thanks! |
| 21:12.06 | AckisWork | 9 tickets gone to the wind! w00t |
| 21:12.06 | durcyn | Torhal: CLI! |
| 21:12.11 | Torhal | Trying the CLI to commit to my repo here, and it's apparently doing it locally |
| 21:12.30 | Torhal | Since the GUI clients gave me the false idea that commit always went to repo here |
| 21:12.50 | Torhal | GUI SVN on Linux == nonexistent without suck. |
| 21:13.11 | Torhal | So now I need to figure out how to push from local repo to WoWAce repo |
| 21:13.39 | sylvanaar | maqr log in on another character |
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| 21:14.17 | Xinhuan | torhal, if its svn, you can't |
| 21:14.34 | Shefki | Of course you can. |
| 21:14.43 | Torhal | I'd like to know why the hell it committed to the local repo anyway, since I did it last night (via gui) to wowace |
| 21:15.09 | Torhal | The GUIs worked fine with an already-created (via Tortoise) repo, but fail miserably with making a new one |
| 21:15.17 | Torhal | So I'm ditching them for CLI |
| 21:15.20 | Xinhuan | there's only "1 repo" |
| 21:15.21 | Torhal | Just need to learn the syntax |
| 21:15.33 | Xinhuan | how can you be commiting to a local one if its repo address is the wowace one |
| 21:15.34 | sylvanaar | visual svn server for windows |
| 21:15.57 | sylvanaar | and svnsync |
| 21:16.02 | Torhal | Well, I just did an svn commit and saw nothing pop up in channel here, so tried svn commit with my repo URL and was told it doesn't accept URL, only local dir |
| 21:16.10 | durcyn | just check out a fresh working copy and re-merge your changes |
| 21:16.15 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar, isn't that just a big hack to recommit each commit one by one? |
| 21:16.17 | durcyn | instead of rocket surgery |
| 21:16.28 | Shefki | Xinhuan: That's all push is on git. |
| 21:16.39 | Xinhuan | except, we're not talking about git |
| 21:16.40 | Shefki | Xinhuan: So I wouldn't call it a hack. |
| 21:17.16 | Shefki | No you'd just rather say stuff is impossible to do with SVN and call the methods of doing it a hack in order to justify some other system as being better. |
| 21:18.06 | sylvanaar | maqr are those blank lines wintergrasp emotes? |
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| 21:18.40 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar, clearly no, since his addon says next battle is 1.5 hours away |
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| 21:19.12 | sylvanaar | wonder what they are then |
| 21:19.31 | maqr | sylvanaar: nope, they're anything at all |
| 21:19.49 | sylvanaar | they are something |
| 21:20.16 | maqr | sylvanaar: well, they don't display as anything, but they're just normal messages... here, i've taken a better screenshot to illustrate |
| 21:20.37 | maqr | sylvanaar: http://maqr.jtaby.com/wow/WoWScrnShot_050409_171954.jpg |
| 21:20.51 | maqr | sylvanaar: i just started counting in my channel from 1 to 7, and that's what i see |
| 21:21.20 | maqr | sylvanaar: if i were to keep counting, the blank lines would still be blank, even though they're really messages or something taking up the line... it just doesn't display it |
| 21:22.32 | Xinhuan | Shefki, i call it a "hack" because svn doesn't inherently support syncing between repos |
| 21:22.32 | sylvanaar | does it persist through a reloadui? turn off timestamps / 2 column chat. |
| 21:22.55 | sylvanaar | isnt svnsync in the svn manual |
| 21:23.14 | Xinhuan | if it is, i'll admit i never saw it |
| 21:23.17 | maqr | sylvanaar: it does persist through a reload, i'll try turning off those options now, sec |
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| 21:24.49 | Repo | 10nanopar: 03Torhal * r3 Libs (3 files in 1 directory): Fixed Libs dir. |
| 21:24.52 | sylvanaar | maqr also, try enabling the OriginalButtons module. |
| 21:25.07 | Shefki | Xinhuan: svnsync is included in the svn distribution. So it's supported. |
| 21:25.17 | ckknight | hey beautiful people |
| 21:25.17 | Shefki | It's not entirely supported the way git supports it. |
| 21:25.23 | ckknight | I added a new donation button type |
| 21:25.27 | ckknight | paypal, non-hosted button |
| 21:25.28 | maqr | sylvanaar: that fixed it! |
| 21:25.38 | Xinhuan | added to what, ck? |
| 21:25.40 | maqr | sylvanaar: odd, i had literally every module enabled, but somehow that one wasn't |
| 21:25.52 | ckknight | with this, it embeds the addon name and also where it comes from, so you'll get, e.g. Cartographer (from WowAce.com) or Cartographer (from Curse.com) |
| 21:25.55 | Torhal | ckknight: I don't care anymore. I already upgraded to "premium" |
| 21:25.59 | ckknight | and eventually, Cartographer (from Curse Client) |
| 21:26.02 | Torhal | :D |
| 21:26.08 | Torhal | Ah |
| 21:26.09 | Torhal | Ok |
| 21:26.14 | maqr | sylvanaar: is 'original buttons' new? |
| 21:26.14 | ckknight | so you'll be able to know _which_ addons are getting donations |
| 21:26.15 | sylvanaar | maqr the 2 buttons modules dont work together - they will disable eachother |
| 21:26.17 | ckknight | as well as where they come from |
| 21:26.31 | sylvanaar | maqr its the prat 2 button module |
| 21:27.29 | ckknight | also, this means you don't need a business account to have a paypal button anymore |
| 21:27.53 | Shefki | zomg addon authors are a business. |
| 21:29.10 | ckknight | bidniss |
| 21:30.03 | Xinhuan | i'm a bit lost |
| 21:30.09 | Xinhuan | about what ck is talking about lol |
| 21:30.31 | maqr | sylvanaar: well, either way, fixed :) |
| 21:30.42 | ckknight | Xinhuan: go to a project, click edit donation info |
| 21:30.51 | ckknight | you can now specify a paypal button for an email |
| 21:30.56 | ckknight | it'll make a button for you |
| 21:31.13 | ckknight | that includes the project name and where the button was clicked (be it wowace or curse) |
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| 21:32.06 | Xinhuan | oh so its basically "send money to email address" rather than requiring a paypal button |
| 21:32.11 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:32.15 | ckknight | a non-hosted paypal button |
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| 21:35.31 | Aeyan | Meh to drivers + WinXP 64 |
| 21:35.52 | Xinhuan | i wonder if it'll be an interesting feature to allow an addon author to put a poll up on his project |
| 21:35.57 | Xinhuan | so that users can vote on things |
| 21:36.33 | Xinhuan | "Should Omen addon pullout bars?" "- Yes - No - Don't Care" |
| 21:37.14 | Xinhuan | could be an interesting way to get feedback |
| 21:38.07 | kadrahil | come onnnnnnnnnnnnnn eileen |
| 21:38.26 | Xinhuan | pokes ckknight in the ribs |
| 21:38.32 | ckknight | noes, teh ribs |
| 21:39.30 | Xinhuan | wutcha think |
| 21:40.23 | Repo | 10nanopar: 03Torhal * r4 / (3 files in 1 directory): TOC path fix. |
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| 21:41.28 | Primer | ugh, I just can't get this to work now |
| 21:41.46 | Primer | at one point it was working just fine, I was seeing QuestHelper loading, and I'd add my callback |
| 21:42.22 | ckknight | Xinhuan: wow, that sounds like a fucking great idea |
| 21:42.24 | Primer | err, loaded |
| 21:42.36 | ckknight | Xinhuan: good thing I added support for that a few months back, eh? |
| 21:42.44 | Xinhuan | you did? heh |
| 21:42.46 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:42.49 | ckknight | on your project |
| 21:42.54 | ckknight | Polls -> Create poll |
| 21:43.27 | Xinhuan | wow i must be blind |
| 21:43.28 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 21:43.29 | purl | STOP DOING THAT! |
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| 21:43.44 | Xinhuan | does the poll sync to curse btw? |
| 21:44.59 | ckknight | no |
| 21:45.03 | ckknight | just stays on wowace |
| 21:45.06 | ckknight | syncing would be hard |
| 21:45.18 | Xinhuan | hmmm that's a significant loss of exposure |
| 21:45.22 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 21:45.25 | ckknight | we might work out something later |
| 21:45.31 | ckknight | but it'd be hard :[ |
| 21:45.44 | ckknight | we could theoretically work out an iframe deal or something |
| 21:45.48 | Repo | 10nanopar: 03Torhal * r5 nanoPar.toc: Bah. Forgot no-lib-strip. |
| 21:45.52 | Pneumatus | eww |
| 21:48.07 | Xinhuan | now i just need to play 85 games of av wins |
| 21:48.25 | Xinhuan | for the win achievement! |
| 21:49.09 | kadrahil | glhf with that |
| 21:50.02 | Xinhuan | lets say AV takes 20 min to win |
| 21:50.05 | Xinhuan | and you have 100% win rate |
| 21:50.08 | Xinhuan | how many hours is that? |
| 21:50.20 | durcyn | 28 |
| 21:50.53 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 21:50.54 | purl | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 21:51.03 | kadrahil | rofl |
| 21:51.33 | Codayus | And that's almost 24, and 24 is a day, so you sorta only need to spend a day playing AV! |
| 21:51.48 | Primer | Should logging to another character refresh updated addon files? |
| 21:51.49 | Codayus | ...given your completely unreasonable assumptions about game length, queue time, and win rates. |
| 21:51.53 | kadrahil | if you want to guarantee win rate though |
| 21:52.03 | kadrahil | you'd have to convince 39 other people to play for 28 hours with you |
| 21:52.11 | kadrahil | that know how to play it :( |
| 21:52.29 | Codayus | kadrahil: Hard to coordinate cross-faction premades I'd think. |
| 21:52.43 | kadrahil | Codayus: not entirely, there was that one website that coordinated them |
| 21:52.49 | Codayus | Really? Heh |
| 21:52.54 | kadrahil | Codayus: well not cross faction, but cross realm same faction |
| 21:52.55 | Xinhuan | don't need 39 ppl |
| 21:52.59 | Xinhuan | just 20 is enough |
| 21:52.59 | Antiarc | ~seen Proditor |
| 21:53.00 | purl | proditor <i=proditor@c80-217-101-178.bredband.comhem.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 77d 9h 18m 22s ago, saying: 'oh gawd, I'm just retarded :-p Coming home from a maths test and failing on something like that feels quite messed up xD thanks anyhow'. |
| 21:53.05 | Xinhuan | 6 min wins every game |
| 21:53.24 | kadrahil | heh |
| 21:53.43 | Xinhuan | sad thing is i'm honor capped |
| 21:53.47 | Xinhuan | and have 0 PR |
| 21:54.05 | Codayus | ...hm, for some reason, I was thinking AV was 20 a side, so "39 others" referred to both teams. Yeah, I don't play AV much... >.> |
| 21:54.05 | Primer | what is PR? |
| 21:54.17 | Primer | personal rating |
| 21:54.19 | Primer | ok, nm |
| 21:54.44 | ckknight | public relations |
| 21:54.50 | ckknight | <.< |
| 21:54.52 | ckknight | >.> |
| 21:54.58 | Codayus | If it wasn't for holiday achievements, I'd never go into BGs. :-) |
| 21:55.18 | Primer | I can't be bothered with achievements |
| 21:55.34 | Codayus | Freak |
| 21:55.36 | Xinhuan | at least i remembered to kiss sara today |
| 21:55.41 | nicoli_s | bgs in wow are nowhere near as fun as scenarios in war |
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| 22:07.32 | Tentacled | hmm. can't find it anywhere... Is it in any way restricted what ActionButtons can be SetPoint to? I cannot for the love of any gods have them setpoint to anything than their parent frame... |
| 22:13.04 | Repo | 10pestcontrol: 03Jabouty * r2 ToDo.txt.txt: Initial commit |
| 22:13.51 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r324 modules/ldb.lua: changed "launcher" to "data source" |
| 22:14.15 | dodga | Tentacled: Do you clear the points before setting them? Back in the days when I messed with frames I needed to do a ClearAllPoints on a frame :o |
| 22:15.04 | Repo | 10pestcontrol: 03Jabouty * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed ToDo.txt |
| 22:15.19 | Pneumatus | @describe pestcontrol |
| 22:15.20 | Repo | Pneumatus: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pestcontrol/. PestControl. PestControl was requested by my guildies, and they have not stopped bugging me yet; so I decided to go ahead and write it up. I did an earlier version some time ago, but have since lost the code I... |
| 22:15.32 | Tentacled | of course I do, dodga. |
| 22:15.32 | Pneumatus | fail description fails |
| 22:15.53 | dodga | Tentacled: Then I'm out of guesses :> |
| 22:16.07 | dodga | At least useful ones. Did you check if your cat is messing with your intartubes? :> |
| 22:16.41 | Tentacled | Im in yur routers queuin ur paketz? |
| 22:17.24 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r184 / (2 files in 2 directories): YurrCombatLog: |
| 22:17.27 | Repo | - added(not finished) option when right clicking units to added them to you watch list(useful for death tracking) |
| 22:17.39 | dodga | that would be unfortunate |
| 22:17.57 | sylvanaar | anyone else seeing teleporting in bgs alot today? I know am not imagining it! |
| 22:18.28 | Repo | 10perfectscreenshot: 03Trellmor * r2 / (85 files in 22 directories): Initial Import |
| 22:18.59 | dodga | Had too much cat nip? |
| 22:19.16 | Repo | 10perfectscreenshot: 03Trellmor 041.0.0 * r3 : Tagging as 1.0.0 |
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| 22:19.39 | kagaro | hey ckknight you there? |
| 22:19.44 | sylvanaar | maybe, but horde in the alliance av starting area before the bg starts? |
| 22:19.46 | ckknight | I have never left you, child |
| 22:19.49 | sylvanaar | 2x now |
| 22:20.04 | ckknight | my footprints have been beside you always |
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| 22:20.26 | ckknight | and those times when only one set of footprints is visible, those are the times when I rode your back as if you were a horse, my heels digging into your sides. |
| 22:20.36 | kagaro | always the poet |
| 22:20.52 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2028 / (3 files in 3 directories): - Added some more missing pets |
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| 22:36.12 | Repo | 10pestcontrol: 03Jabouty * r4 / (3 files in 1 directory): Committing initial files. Will commit the LUA later. |
| 22:36.15 | Repo | These are not the droids you're looking for. Move along, move along. |
| 22:36.18 | krka | Repo: No reason to yell the name of the language. :-D |
| 22:40.52 | ckknight | lulz, krka, can you put Repo on ignore for that? |
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| 23:01.59 | Primer | So, is there no event that fires once all addons are loaded an initialized? |
| 23:02.06 | Primer | s/an /and / |
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| 23:06.27 | Primer | crickets... |
| 23:09.11 | Repo | 10pestcontrol: 03Jabouty * r5 PestControl.lua: Adding PestControl.lua |
| 23:10.48 | Repo | 10ulduarwarp: 03DigitalSorceress * r3 UlduarWarp.lua: UlduarWarp: ProofOfConcept |
| 23:10.51 | Repo | - Got the proof of concept working. need to type out EXACT text of the gossip dialog option to auto click, but it DOES work |
| 23:10.54 | Repo | - Still needs lots of work before it's ready to beta |
| 23:16.09 | Repo | 10priorityqueue: 03Pericles * r25 / (3 files in 2 directories): PriorityQueue:- |
| 23:16.12 | Repo | Shaman and DK updates. |
| 23:16.55 | thul | AMBUSHSTAB |
| 23:22.32 | vhaarr | Primer: VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 23:22.37 | vhaarr | eh |
| 23:22.44 | vhaarr | and initialized, well that kind of depends on the addon, doesn't it |
| 23:26.04 | Primer | that's the same thing |
| 23:26.16 | Primer | I still run into a chicken/egg scenario |
| 23:26.18 | vhaarr | what's the same as what? |
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| 23:27.06 | Dashkal | If you want to be sure all addons have responded to VARIABLES_LOADED, I suppose you could wait one frame? But that's pretty hackish (any solution to this would be). What are you doing? |
| 23:27.33 | vhaarr | you can suppose many things until you know the actual problem |
| 23:31.24 | vhaarr | Primer: want to explain the problem or figure out the solution by yourself? |
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| 23:33.46 | vhaarr | goes to bed then |
| 23:46.07 | Primer | sorry, was afk |
| 23:46.29 | Primer | I want to call QuestHelper's function to register a callback |
| 23:46.42 | Primer | but I'm finding that addons seem to load randomly |
| 23:47.30 | Primer | and adding QuestHelper to ##OptionalDeps, as suggested, doesn't guarantee to make it load first |
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| 23:50.25 | Dashkal | OptionalDeps still broken? I thought they had that fixed. |
| 23:59.41 | Torhal | So...is there any use for the hyperlink escape sequence other than string parsing? |
