IRC log for #wowace on 20090424

00:00.00ckknightwas it you?
00:00.09ShefkiNope
00:00.23ShefkiI just assumed I was shefki_ because my ISP was sucking for a bit yesterday and was too lazy  to fix it.
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00:58.10Repo10gfx-toggle-2: 03Drool * r75 / (4 files in 2 directories): - general code tidy-up; part 2
00:58.13Repo- remove some needless object var usage, remove many getter functions
00:58.16Repo- put colour code constants outside of localised strings
00:59.51Repo10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal 06scrollable * r68 LibQTip-1.0.lua: Added scrollHeap and scrollChildHeap.
00:59.53RepoAdded "key" parameter to AcquireTooltip(), which is used to grab the scrollFrame and scrollChild from the heaps.
00:59.58RepoModified InitializeTooltip() and FinalizeTooltip() for new heaps.
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01:21.59Torhalckknight: pingage
01:22.08ckknightTorhal: pongitude
01:22.43Torhalckknight: I talked with Cairenn about the cross-site addon push idea, and she said to ping Dolby again
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01:37.27Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r57 / (14 files in 13 directories): Simplified Chinese (zhCN) Translation by Aladdinn
01:37.30Repohttp://www.wowace.com/projects/everyquest/localization/zhCN/
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01:39.51Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r58 Modules/ (11 files in 11 directories): Module TOC Update
01:40.10Cavisty^gerberI know this is a bit offtopic
01:40.21Cavisty^gerberbut any reason why I can't hear people talking in ventrilo?
01:40.26Cavisty^gerberI can hear all the like channel change sounds
01:40.47Cavisty^gerberbut can't hear people talking, the volume thing in windows shows sound coming from ventrilo when people talk, i just don't hear it
01:47.26Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1986 AtlasLayout/instances.en.lua: Updated Ulduar Atlas layout
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01:58.35AckisCavisty^gerber: is your computer on? headphones plugged in? vent turned on an running?
01:58.45Cavisty^gerberAckis of course
01:58.53Ackisok i'm out of ideas
01:58.56Cavisty^gerbermy outputs are correct
01:59.06Cavisty^gerberwindows 7 if that matters, but its always worked before
02:02.04TorhalAckis: Pure, awesome, typical tech support question. "Is your computer on?"
02:02.47AckisTorhal: or we can't help you with that, we're dumbasses
02:03.03TorhalAckis: Hehe
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02:35.04Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r59 EveryQuest.toc: Optional Deps fix
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02:47.20Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r60 EveryQuest.toc: Optional Deps fix
02:47.37Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz 042.1.9 * r61 : Whats new in 2.1.9?
02:47.40RepoModule TOC Update
02:47.42RepoSimplified Chinese (zhCN) Translation by Aladdinn
02:47.46RepoOptional Deps fix
02:47.56KilrooCrap, Periscope's brokeded.
02:53.59Repo10everyquest: 03kandarz * r62 Core.lua: Fix #8, won't tag it as it deals with debug stuff.
02:57.13KilrooHmm.
03:03.25Kilrooneeds to do some hacking on cargBags.
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03:17.09Repo10better-quest: 03Zhinjio * r148 / (2 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 2 lines)
03:17.12RepoBetterQuest:
03:17.15Repo- changed header to be inline
03:17.16Kilroo...Wow.
03:17.18Repo- fixed trackers to be able to properly "grow up"
03:17.21Repo- added setting for that
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03:19.20KilrooIf I'm reading the respective APIs correctly...using Periodic Table sets as cargBags filters ought to be extremely easy.
03:20.31KilrooOnly catch is that--again, if I'm reading it right--I'm not sure cargBags can show an item as being in more than one filter, so if the PT sets being used aren't disjoint that could get a bit confusing.
03:20.42Repo10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r56 MagicDKP_Client.lua: Hopefully fixed invalid "can't use item" when bidding.
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03:48.47BWMerlin[TalentTree(unit="target")] is that the correct syntax to get my targets talents to display as text in pitbull4 using dogtags?
03:48.48AxodiousFunkeh`
03:49.02Axodiousive got a combat log of yogg kill... transcriptor borkedt hough
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03:59.00Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5356 Ulduar/Hodir.lua: BigWigs: Ulduar/Hodir: Add Storm Cloud spellID(10men)
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04:03.20Repo10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r57 MagicDKP_Client.lua: [*]Fixed typo in bid error fix.
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04:12.13KobenDoes anyone know where I can find the Prat documentation?
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04:13.51KobenI'm trying to find the documentation on Custom Filters but it refers to a link on wowace that doesn't exist anymore
04:17.02KobenDoes Wowace have an archive of old stuff?
04:18.21Kobenlol.. well I found it, old.wowace.com.. and it turns out the documentation is a blank page. Yaay.
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04:51.04NeoTrontwo shot Thorim. that was easy
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04:52.50Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r183 / (2 files in 1 directory): [*]Core: Records events for Hodir, Freya and Thorim now.
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05:20.19Repo10squawk: 03wobin * r14 Squawk.lua: Now supresses 'X Player is not online' messages when broadcasting to followers
05:20.22RepoTooltip limited to 10 most recent
05:25.57Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r184 MagicDKP.lua:
05:26.00Repo[*]Core: Don't use chat event for Mimiron since the three robo-mobs actually die.
05:33.24Maelos`Someone was mentioning if you have 2 accounts you can merge the toons with the new battle.net account merge stuff?
05:35.38TrelaMaelos`: I did yesterday.
05:36.06TrelaThe accounts remain separate, but they both will have the same "name" to transfer between.
05:36.51Maelos`Sweet
05:36.55Maelos`How do I start?
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05:37.59TrelaMake a Battle.net account first.
05:38.13TrelaThen in its options you can choose to merge accounts.
05:38.22Maelos`cool
05:38.52TrelaI will note that your new log in for the game will be your email address on the Battle.net account.
05:39.13Wobinbut not for the ptr =)
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06:06.58NeoTronMimiron  phase 3... only problem is we usually get there with like 6 people alive :P
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06:21.46Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r55 Bison.lua: new version
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06:33.32evman182hey can someone help me with GUID parsing?
06:35.38Torhalevman182: It's just as dead in here at the moment.
06:35.46evman182apparently
06:35.48SunTsuevman182: How should anybody know if he can if he doesn't know your problem?
06:37.04evman182Is this gonna be as painful as reading the forums?
06:37.23SunTsu~ask
06:37.24purlQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
06:37.25NeoTronok rockets on melee on Mimiron is stupid
06:37.53Trela~purl
06:37.54purlACTION purrs
06:37.59Trelapets purl.
06:38.06evman182well thats fun
06:38.14evman182ok, if you want the full question.
06:38.39TrelaMud from Khadgar?
06:38.53Trelaguesses!
06:38.55sb|workmorning
06:39.48evman182I'm working on an AddOn where I need to parse a GUID from a Unit_Died event to see whether it's describing a player of an NPC. I thought for players, after masking the first 3 digits with 00F, you should get 0, but I keep getting 8
06:40.05TrelaOh, I have a document I wrote on that.  *Pulls it up.*
06:40.35evman182Seriously?
06:40.49TrelaI made a huge document on the WoW protocol and that is part of it.
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06:41.02TrelaI just need to figure out where I put it
06:41.04Torhalevman182: Also, looking at the latest builds of Grid should help, since it now uses GUIDs
06:41.05TrelaI just need to figure out where I put it.
06:43.48TrelaI do not believe my document will help.  :x  It lists specifics about GUIDs, but not how they are prefixed in game.
06:44.14evman182what kind of specifics?
06:45.09TrelaHow WoW differentiates between channel GUIDs and such.  I thought it would be similar, but it is very different in this case.
06:47.25TrelaI wrote a program a while back that listens to chat channel packets and displays opposite faction/foreign languages in clear text overlaid onto the WoW window.
06:47.29TrelaAlso, time for bed!
06:48.13Repo10better-quest: 03Kemayo * r149 / (2 files in 1 directory):
06:48.15Torhalevman182: It seems to me, at this point in time, Grid's latest build is your best bet
06:48.16RepoAdd the item-buttons stuff Zhinjio accidentally removed back in
06:48.19RepoRemove some light duplication around headers
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07:22.29Repo10sdkp: 03NevetsNeirbo * r97 commands.lua: Suppressed self spam on raid end.
07:28.47Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5357 Core.lua:
07:28.50RepoFix VerifyEnable. This should prevent the Keepers from enabling when they're dead.
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07:43.09vhaarranyone got a full mimiron25 and freya transcript?
07:47.57Arrowmasteri knew something was wrong with VerifyEnable last year
07:49.15vhaarrnothing was wrong with it, the problem was that what I initially implemented it for is not what I tried using it for this time
07:49.57vhaarrpreviously, we'd have a table with .wipemobs on modules, so for example on Gothik in Naxx at lvl 60, the module would not disable itself as long as the adds were up
07:50.25vhaarrand the VerifyEnable was added so that we could implement whether or not to enable a boss addon on such bossmods, that had a load of .wipemobs or .enablemobs
07:50.56vhaarrit was not invoked on bosses where the module name matches the boss name straight away
07:50.56Arrowmasterthe first usage of it was domo in MC
07:51.21vhaarrI don't think so
07:51.26vhaarrperhaps my memory is fucked though
07:51.30Arrowmasteri did a full MC right after 2.4 patch and the VerifyEnable for domo did not prevent it from enabling at rag
07:51.42vhaarrit will now
07:52.06vhaarrI implemented :VerifyEnable, and as far as I can remember it was not for MC, it was for either AQ40 or Naxx
07:52.17vhaarrbut in any case it should be working as you'd expect now
07:52.24Arrowmasterwell it was used for mc too
07:52.30vhaarryes post-implement
07:52.34vhaarrbut that's not the reason I made it
07:52.40Arrowmasterand i cant be certain but i thought it actually worked on domo before tbc
07:53.28NivFreakugg I hate hotel wireless
07:53.35NivFreakI need to find a net cafe to raid at ;)
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07:57.14Repo10transcriptor: 03Rabbit * r103 Transcriptor.lua: Fix Ace2 events (BigWigs_Message) tracking.
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08:03.15Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5358 Ulduar/Mimiron.lua:
08:03.18RepoAdd Leviathan, VX-001 and ACU to the enable trigger so we intercept the raid boss emotes.
08:04.47NeoTronwell got some solid progress
08:04.50Repo10bison: 03Grayal * r56 / (5 files in 1 directory): new version
08:05.05NeoTronmade it to phase 4 and can do phase 1-2 reasonbly flawlessly
08:05.13vhaarron mimiron?
08:05.15NeoTronyep
08:05.27vhaarrye we did that last night, going back on sunday to finish off p4
08:05.44vhaarrthose assault bots in p3 hit like trucks ><
08:05.50vhaarryou kite them?
08:05.56NeoTron10 wipes or so
08:05.59NeoTronyeah our boomkin does
08:06.10vhaarrI tanked them last night, but maybe we should kite as well
08:06.10Wobinhow do boomkin kite?
08:06.14NeoTronby dpsing
08:06.23vhaarrboomkins do tons of threat
08:06.24Wobinthen running around like a headless chicken? =)
08:06.25NeoTronhow can you tank those, they hit for like 40k?
08:06.33vhaarrye I know, I have insane avoidance
08:06.36NeoTronWobin: three DK's makes them rather slow
08:06.41vhaarrthey hit me roughly 1 time per mob before they die
08:06.46NeoTronand rogues for stuns and stuff
08:06.53Wobinoo. no diminishing returns for chains of ice, eh?
08:07.06vhaarrit's pve, most things don't diminish
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08:07.27NeoTronright
08:07.36NeoTronfun as heck fight though
08:07.41vhaarrindeed I love it
08:07.50NeoTronlike Auriaya - that fight is... sort of fun but the pull isn't :P
08:07.56NeoTronthe trash is the win
08:08.17daevThe tram to mimiron is awesome alone.
08:08.22NeoTrononly thing I don't like is the nuke on melee
08:08.25NeoTronI can't see it at all
08:08.32NeoTronso it's sort of random luck if I survive or not
08:08.43NeoTronmelee + color blind => bad combo
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08:09.31NeoTronso...
08:09.33NeoTronHeroic: I'll Take You All On
08:09.35NeoTronDefeat Thorim, the Ancient Rune Giant and the Rune Colossus on Heroic Difficulty.
08:09.43NeoTronhow can you do that fight without doing that achievement?!
08:09.53NeoTronaren't they sort of on the way to "free" thorim to be fought?
08:10.10vhaarrNeoTron: you must be in the tunnel
08:10.14vhaarrto get credit
08:10.34vhaarrso basically if you have melee in the arena each kill, they'll never get the achievement
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08:15.06nevcairieli think our melees got it
08:16.22vhaarrours didn't
08:16.27WobinNeoTron: damn, is it just the colour combination that you can't discern?
08:16.32vhaarronly people in hallway got it
08:17.22vhaarrgrrr gief freya+mimiron logs
08:17.29vhaarrs/logs/transcripts/
08:20.19vhaarrnevcairiel: can you add Eonar's Gift to babbleboss, it's the tree in the Freya encounter
08:20.45vhaarrand the elders
08:21.04vhaarrElder Stonebark, Elder Ironbranch and Elder Brightleaf
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08:24.57nevcairielsure
08:25.12nevcairielvhaarr: i have a mimiron log up to p4, i didnt log our kill :(
08:25.29vhaarrnevcairiel: cool can I see it?
08:25.46vhaarralthough I need p4 as well
08:26.18nevcairielwell it has parts of p4
08:26.21nevcairieluntil we wiped
08:26.26vhaarrnice
08:26.45nevcairielyou really have to try hard to wipe in p3 =P
08:26.55nevcairielso boring phase
08:27.04vhaarrye :p
08:27.18Wobinnevcairiel: I know certain raiders that will go that extra mile =P
08:27.20vhaarrnot for us though since I tank the big bots :p
08:27.34nevcairielyou tank the bots?
08:27.36nevcairielwhy?
08:27.44nevcairielhttp://nevcairiel.net/Mimiron3.zip
08:27.48quiesensefor fun
08:27.52vhaarr^^
08:28.06nevcairielkite, slow, stun, root, no need for tanking :)
08:28.11Wobincause otherwise it's boring =)
08:29.01Wobin=\ It takes so long to copy WoW over the network =\
08:29.38quiesenseget a faster network =/
08:29.42Wobinfail 10/100 =(
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08:32.39NeoTronvhaarr: but.. I wasn't in the tunnel
08:32.49vhaarrand you got it?
08:32.50NeoTronvhaarr: I was in the arena...
08:33.00nevcairielI think everyone gets it
08:33.06vhaarrnot for us
08:33.08NeoTron[b]Changes in r57:[/b][list][*]Fixed an issue with autopassing on bids related to new items not previously seen by the players client.
08:33.11NeoTronoops
08:33.16NeoTronhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Kilrogg&cn=Morasia&gn=Surprise+Robit
08:34.14Wobinwhat's a Robit?
08:34.14nevcairielour melees got it too
08:34.30NeoTrona mechanical relative to Dargons
08:34.44nevcairielwhats a Dargon?
08:35.00NeoTronso imagine sneaking around in BT. you've just killed mother shahraz for the first time
08:35.01vhaarrnevcairiel: can you remember if you had a laser barrage in p4 in this log?
08:35.11vhaarrnevcairiel: I'm guessing that's what wiped you
08:35.11nevcairielprobably did
08:35.11NeoTronwalking up the stairs, killing robits.. then SURPRISE ROBIT comes around the corner
08:35.16nevcairielya :P
08:35.23vhaarrbut I can't find it in the log ><
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08:35.51WobinKind of like a Ruptor then
08:36.09WobinExcept all Ruptors are Surprise Ruptors
08:36.58nevcairielvhaarr: for some arcane reason it didnt record the channel start events for the barrage
08:37.01nevcairielbut the warning worked fine
08:37.08vhaarrin p2 you mean?
08:37.09vhaarror p4
08:37.33nevcairieli don't see any channel start for it, so must've been bugged somehow
08:37.36nevcairielit worked fine, though
08:37.40vhaarrgrr
08:37.54NeoTronWobin: indeed
08:37.56quiesensegrr~
08:38.04Wobin~grr
08:38.05purlmethinks grr is a sound that honeypea makes when she's patient, and should be angry or <honeypea> grr :)
08:38.06NeoTronit was a internal joke in our previous guild
08:38.16NeoTronI think it started in hyjal
08:38.33NeoTronwhen someone said "surprise gargoyles!" the first time we got the pack of gargs that spawns right above you
08:38.34vhaarrah wait there it is
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08:38.36vhaarr"<569.1> [CLEU] SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS:0xF150008373021234:VX-001:2632:0x0000000000000000:nil:-2147483648:63414:Spinning Up:1:", -- [92250]
08:38.39vhaarrthat's p4
08:39.02nevcairielya
08:39.03quiesenseor so you think!
08:39.12vhaarrthen the warning should work fine indeed
08:39.19nevcairieli have a shorter log with a p2 wipe
08:39.23nevcairielwhere the casts show
08:39.28vhaarrbut the UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START seems useless then
08:39.36vhaarryeah because you have it targetted there
08:39.40vhaarrprobably
08:39.58nevcairieli don't usually target the boss
08:40.18vhaarrwell it's weird because we don't get UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START in p4
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08:41.18nevcairieli don't think the warning ever failed once, though
08:41.23nevcairielis it syncing?
08:41.28vhaarrno
08:41.36vhaarrit's CLEU, shouldn't need syncinc
08:41.57nevcairielthe laster itself uses the channel_start
08:41.59vhaarrUNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START could sync though, perhaps SOMEONE gets it in p4
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08:42.18nevcairieli'm not sure if i got the bar .. or just the warning..
08:42.18nevcairielhm
08:42.44vhaarrI fixed ace2 events for Transcriptor now, so next transcript we can see it
08:42.56NeoTronI wish that the nuke was warnable
08:43.02vhaarrrockets?
08:43.07nevcairielya
08:43.07NeoTronyeah
08:43.10NeoTronlike standing in it
08:43.15NeoTronbecause for melee that is just bad
08:43.24nevcairielyou get a spellcast success if you're targeting it, iirc
08:43.29nevcairielbut not in CLEU
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08:43.38nevcairielit sucks
08:43.39vhaarryes you do, but then you have like 1.5 seconds to move
08:43.41NeoTronbut it doesn't tell you if you're standing in it
08:43.49vhaarrthe ground effect is present pre-launch
08:43.54NeoTronI don't know if I even once successfully saw it
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08:44.14NeoTronas I mentioned above, I'm color blind too + melee dps so it adds up to a rather hard to see combo
08:44.34nevcairielwe just announce when the rocket starts, so everyone just moves around a bit and pays attention to the ground
08:44.43NeoTronthat is one idea
08:44.45nevcairieljust by looking at the bots back, and see when its glows
08:44.49vhaarrsame here
08:45.45vhaarrnevcairiel: what positioning do you use in p4?
08:45.53vhaarrwe use p2 positions currently
08:45.54nevcairielsame as 2
08:45.55NeoTronproblem them for melee...
08:45.56nevcairielmore or less
08:45.56vhaarrye
08:45.59NeoTronthey might move into the nuke then
08:46.12nevcairielwell of course you look before you move :P
08:46.19NeoTronproblem still
08:46.22NeoTronI don't see the target
08:46.22nevcairielif the mark is on empty ground, you should be able to see it
08:46.30NeoTronmaybe
08:46.34NeoTronI don't know how it looks like
08:46.36nevcairielif its directly below the melees, i can understand not seeing it
08:46.40vhaarrNeoTron: also have the melee spread out all around the boss in p4, not just behind, and you can have a paladin run and nuke all the mines with his shield up
08:46.51nevcairielheh
08:47.09vhaarrour tankadin doesn't have gear for offspec so that's what he does in p1 and 4 :p
08:48.09thulhmm, are honor-pvp gear worth getting?
08:48.52NeoTronwell we're going back sunday
08:48.55NeoTronsee if we can't kill him
08:49.04NeoTronthink we can because we made huge strides today
08:49.23NeoTronso Freya = 2 wipes, then kill. Thorim = 1 wipe, then kill
08:49.34NeoTronAuriaya => like 20-30 wipes at least? :P
08:50.01NeoTronanyhow. sleep
08:51.20thulhmm, I need 280k honor
08:56.52Fisker-baws neon
08:56.56Fisker-baws NeoTron
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09:10.22thultest question: your opponents in ab have left the AB and are far up one of the raods, your ally is working on the flag, you are a stealther and can sap opponents, one of the opponents are going towards the guy that is capping GM.. what do you do.. a) sap the guy so the flag will get capped or b) go the other way, and wait for him to attack the capper
09:10.28thulwtf
09:10.30thulWHY ARE PEOPLE STUPID
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09:22.47Adirelle|workhi there
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09:26.48theoddone33is there a current favorite among gearset switchers?
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09:37.28ThiefMasterhi
09:37.56ThiefMasteranyone knows if there's an addon which automatically inspects all raid members which are inspectable (i.e. not too far away) and checks them for blue/green items and similar crap?
09:38.21Adirelle|workis there someone familiar with aguf here ?
09:38.38Repo10grid: 03Greltok * r1190 / (3 files in 1 directory): Changes to class colors now update immediately.
09:38.41RepoAdded option to reset class colors.
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09:46.39SunTsuThiefMaster: Fubar_GearRating does something like that, it inspects and sort of calculates a medium ilevel, giving maluses for greens and blues
09:49.13Adirelle|workis anyone aware of a way to display unitframes using Blizzard raid MT status ?
09:49.13ThiefMasterseems to be pretty outdated
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09:49.52ThiefMasterah, apropos unitframe: it would be _great_ if you could set your own ora mt targets locally without having 'A' or get xperl etc use player targets additional to MT targets
09:50.11ThiefMasterit's pretty annoying if you have to ask for A if you want xperl mt targets and the raid leader doesn't use ora
09:51.32Adirelle|workactually I'm wondering if I could have aguf display MT unitframes
09:51.33SunTsuThiefMaster: But it still works, and if it breaks you know you have somebody with heirloom in the raid :>
09:51.44Adirelle|work(same with arena unit too)
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09:52.21SunTsuThiefMaster: oRA3 is going to use Blizz' MTs, I heard, oRA2 is merely maintained
09:52.43ThiefMastersame problem: without A/lead i can't set them
09:52.48Fisker-is oRA3 usable yet? :3
09:53.08SunTsuNever tried it
09:53.38ThiefMasterand i guess the problem with blizz' MT s will be that they probably will be in group or random order
09:53.46SunTsuThiefMaster: oRA2 allows you to set player targets, BTW
09:53.54ThiefMasteryeah, but xperl doesn't recognise them
09:54.02ThiefMasterand the xperl mt targets are much nicer than the ora ones
09:54.04Adirelle|workThiefMaster: it is easier to ask your RL to set up Blizzard MT than asking him/her to install oRA2 to do it...
09:54.08Zeksiebecause of the ordering problem.
09:54.20Zeksieit's a bad implementantion
09:54.33ThiefMasterwell in my raid i usually get A for it, but that doesn't apply for $twinkraid_of_some_random_guild
09:54.41SunTsuThiefMaster: Just do your best to bother Zeksie for it ;)
09:55.02Zeksiei know it needs doing.. but it's gonna be a pain.. :|
09:55.03Fisker-Tried shit Zeksie ?
09:55.15Adirelle|workZeksie: I'd prefer unordered MT frames than no MT frames at all
09:55.45Zeksiewell. could get it to read the blizz ones. not much problem there. it's the player target's I don't have time for atm
09:56.13Zeksiehow about i do it today. wil that make ppl happy ;)
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09:57.26Fisker-wanna make out thul ?
09:57.28ThiefMastersounds great ;) it will be configurable though, right? (what happens if both targets are set)
09:58.10ThiefMasteri think "use ora if set, use blizzard if not" or "use ora if set and merge in blizzard" would be the best solutions
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10:00.12ZeksieThiefMaster: yeh, will come up with something
10:02.41ThiefMasteris the spec detection (still= broken btw? i noticed it showing the primary(?) spec for someone who was using his secondary spec
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10:07.30thulFisker-: of course
10:07.38thulFisker-: i got my wow back on, so now we can wow eachother
10:07.39thulanaly
10:08.44Elkanois it possible to load files from other addon directorys in your toc?
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10:10.36Adirelle|workI think
10:12.51ZeksieThiefMaster: specs are cached for a time, weak table. so it's possible you just re-viewed then soon after they changed.
10:13.05ThiefMasterah
10:13.35Elkanojust trying to get MyMedia safe wrt updaters
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10:14.02ThiefMasterisn't there a combat log event (spell_cast_success for the respec spell) which could be used to clear that cache?
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10:16.31Zeksieyeh there is
10:16.53Zeksiecan only do one thing at a time tho.. MT list atm. so shush. don't distract ;)
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10:25.35ThiefMasterMessage: [string "*:OnLoad"] line 4:   attempt to call global 'XPerl_Player_SetTotems' (a nil value)
10:25.53Zeksieoop.
10:25.58ThiefMasterwhen clicking (unchecking) the "enable" checkbox for the totems
10:26.02Zeksiek
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10:57.12SunTsuLosing my talent points over and over again really pisses me off
10:57.18thulindeed
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10:59.22SunTsuOur raidleader yesterday lost her points, couldn't specc, because she hadn't any point available and had no 2nd specc, so she was real fucked
11:00.51sb|workhaha he said "raidleader" and "she" :p
11:01.18yoshimothe word leader covers both sexes if im not mistaken ;)
11:01.35SunTsusb|work: Yeah, right, raidleader and guild master
11:01.40sb|workthats not the point yoshimo :p
11:02.22yoshimodoes a leader/guild master have tobe male? no it hasnt.
11:02.36sb|workhehe, nvm, just trolling :)
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11:16.01Zeksiecoded thing for MT targets, then it occured to me it'd be nice for it to assume the order of the tanks from the order that they were set.. so, gonna go rework it some. bit more complex, but should have the desired effect.
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11:34.56RepoXPerl: Hopefully fixes problems with raid pets not showing up when you have the 'One Group Raid" party option enabled.
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11:48.19yoshimopallypower complains : Improper translation exists. "PP_SYMBOL" is likely misspelled for locale deDE.  but the translation in de.lua seems to be correct
11:49.04nevcairielthat means that PP_SYMBOL does not exist in the base locale
11:49.15nevcairielso either the key is wrong, or it was removed
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11:53.01RepoSmall change to give better user feedback on Auto Fill progress.
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12:43.20sztanpetohyes
12:44.03ThiefMaster"rightclick -> set focus" never works with xperl etc?
12:44.18sztanpetwe should have a page dedicated to favorite ie buggs
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12:48.08Funkeh`actually, ie8 is pretty fucking awesome security wise
12:48.14Funkeh`virus checking of files is sweet
12:48.24Funkeh`not that I would use it
12:48.36Funkeh`but it's nice to know all the retards in the world will be that much more secure
12:49.25nevcairielfirefox has been scanning files for ever
12:49.26sztanpetyea, at least thats a plus
12:49.37Funkeh`nevcairiel, no it has not
12:49.51Funkeh`not with an offsite virus checker
12:50.04nevcairielobviously :P
12:50.10Funkeh`well
12:50.11nevcairielbut i'm pretty sure it can use windows defender too
12:50.14Funkeh`if you have an av
12:50.15nevcairiellike IE8
12:50.20Funkeh`it's like an extra barrier of defense
12:51.01Funkeh`yeah
12:51.09Funkeh`I think it uses the malicious removal tool mostly
12:51.27Stanzilladownloads Win7 RC1
12:52.12Funkeh`nevcairiel, but if most people that use firefox and chrome etc are more "aware" of such threats
12:52.18Funkeh`it really only leaves the newbies using ie
12:52.28Funkeh`so it really should help drastically cut down infections
12:53.03Funkeh`unfortunately it's not on iwndows update until how long? few months? >.>
12:53.16nevcairieltoo many people are still on IE6
12:53.23nevcairielso screw that false sense of improvement
12:53.30Funkeh`lol
12:53.42Funkeh`does w7 come with ie8
12:53.53nevcairielyes
12:54.33sztanpetand ie8 will only be a recommended update not a high priority one
12:54.46sztanpetso who knows how many people will upgrade
12:55.01Funkeh`I'm personally getting everyone that uses it to upgrade
12:55.50sztanpeti make my mother use chrome, so at least thats not an issue
12:55.51sztanpet:D
12:56.41Funkeh`I would never make anyone not technically minded use chrome
12:56.57nevcairielI just shove firefox onto everyone
12:57.04sztanpetwell your wrong, my mom uses it a lot easier then even ie
12:57.08Funkeh`yes, and firefox
12:57.23sztanpetshe for example doesnt get why she needs to write what she wants to search for into the search bar
12:58.10sztanpetso that was a right decision for the 20minutes a month she spends in front of the computer anyway
13:00.01Hirsute-Homestanpet: regarding ie8.  It shouldn't even be a recommended upgrade.  The "recommended upgrade" should be "Uninstall IE"
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13:02.49Beutjuhow can I open the pvpframe? Seems as if PVPFrame:Show() doesn't work anymore
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13:05.52Funkeh`I don't think it's called pvpframe
13:12.49Beutjuit was; but maybe there is a new name - but where can I get it from?
13:13.33yoshimoby using the devtools id say. this addon rips everything apart and prints detailed information
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13:16.29Beutjuhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 this? I'll give it a try
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13:36.18BeutjuPVPParentFrame now
13:36.44Beutjuthx
13:37.00yoshimoyou're welcome
13:37.32thulhey ho, did you guys miss me ?
13:38.21nevcairielno :(
13:38.45thul:-(
13:38.47thuli know you did nevcairiel
13:38.49thulyou just don't want to admit it :-P
13:40.42steevi missed your mom, does that count?
13:41.20steevwtf is with all the rolling restarts
13:41.30Megaloni didn't miss, scored her right in the face!
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13:48.35Nomad_WandererIs anyone use luaeclipse for wow addon development?
13:49.15Daemonapokes Antiarc with a stick.
13:49.36Nomad_WandererAntiarc does?
13:49.54Daemonai doubt it
13:50.04DaemonaAntiarc are you still maintaining Deadened?
13:51.04Grumsomeone said a bad word in here ... ah .. eclipse ...
13:51.31Daemona~luaeclipse
13:51.37Daemonacant be that bad :X
13:51.51yoshimodaemona, do we need a replacement for quartz first? ;)
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13:52.13Daemonamy quartz is fine, whats wrong with yours?
13:52.14Fisker-hai
13:52.39pentium166generic-hostname.arrownet.dk, very nice
13:52.50Nomad_Wanderereclipse isnt a bad word :)
13:53.06Grumit is
13:53.18Nomad_Wandererwhy do you think that?
13:54.18Nomad_WandererI would agree that its overkill for addon development, especially without mylyn.. but what editor/ide do you recommend? Sed?
13:54.47Grumide's are severely overrated
13:54.50Grumvim > * :p
13:55.04yoshimowell daemona, i got the impression while reading the quartz thread
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13:56.18Nomad_Wanderergvim imo
13:58.40hastevim > *
14:01.03Grumgvim means you are on windows, so yes its the best alternative =D
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14:06.50Xinhuanany horde player have free time? i would like to know how many locations the horde WG flight path links to
14:07.17Ackissure
14:07.23Ackisyou have to give me a cookie though
14:07.49Ackislet me just update my spyware with the curse client then I'll log in
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14:08.55Ackiswhich FP Xinhuan?
14:09.03Xinhuanwintergrasp
14:09.32sztanpetXinhuan seemingly it only links to dalaran, flying there now to make sure
14:09.33Ackishow many connections only? do you need to know the conenctions themselves?
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14:09.42Xinhuanyes to both
14:09.48PneumatusAckis, are the new 3.1 glyphs in ARL yet?
14:10.04AckisPneumatus: yes
14:10.13AckisXinhuan: 5 connetions
14:10.22Pneumatusjust in alphas, or in an RC?
14:10.36Xinhuanwhich 5
14:12.07AckisXinhuan: river's heart, bor'gorok outpost (boring tundra), dalaran, agmars hammer (dragonblight), and one in ice crown I can't make out
14:12.12AckisPneumatus: latest RC has it
14:12.21sztanpetnah its more then that
14:12.37Xinhuanackis, the WG horde flight point only goes to 1 location in icecrown?
14:12.42Xinhuanthe alliance one goes to 3
14:13.22sztanpetshadow vault; deaths rise; rivers heart; taunka le; agmars hammer; dalaran; crusaders pinnacle
14:13.28Ackissztanpet: you sure?
14:13.32sztanpetabsolutely
14:14.46Ackiswwwwww
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14:15.04Xinhuansztanpet, can you check if all those places can fly into WG too?
14:15.18sztanpetsure, i can check a few
14:15.21sztanpetsec
14:15.46sztanpetwe're about to loose wg tho
14:17.00sztanpetyes, all those places can fly into wg too
14:17.20sztanpetor at least thats what i can see from to fp-s
14:19.16Xinhuani think they added a flight path between death rise and crusader pinnacle too
14:19.16Grumcan't you harvest that data from somewhere?
14:19.16Xinhuansuch as?
14:19.20Grumdunno, they get the data to draw the lines
14:19.31Daemona~char
14:20.27sztanpetthey might have, dont got any fps in that area
14:22.48yoshimowhen & how does bigwigs check wether a raidmember has it installed? my raid leader has a recent version and still shows up as missing bigwigs
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14:58.58maqri wonder why tomtom isn't on curse
14:59.04jnwhitehit is
14:59.09jnwhitehand it wasn't because i didn't have it there.
14:59.39Ackisjnwhiteh: I think I may have found a legit "bug" with tomtom
14:59.55jnwhitehalright
15:00.05Ackistyping /tomtom just brings up the options, it doesn't go directly to the tomtom entry
15:00.23jnwhitehgoes to the entry for me.
15:01.01Ackisorly?
15:01.32thulORLY?!
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15:01.57Ackisyah just did it again after a /rl, typing it the first time brings up the game options
15:02.06Ackistying it the second time brings up addons
15:02.24Ackisand no change on the third time
15:04.13jnwhitehI can't reproduce this.
15:04.18jnwhitehit always opens to TomTom for me.
15:04.21Ackisobviously this is game breaking jnwhiteh, and I cannot use tomtom because of it... i'm uninstalling it and boycotting wowi or something lawls
15:04.26jnwhitehi blame something you are running.
15:04.28Ackisjnwhiteh: that's reallyweird
15:04.38Ackisyah obviously an interaction
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15:04.42Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r181 modules/SkadaPower (3 files in 1 directory): Added a mana gain mode.
15:04.45GnarfozAckis: you're being boycotted *right now* :O
15:04.50phyberAckis: i've seen that, and it wasn't specific to tomtom.
15:04.57AckisGnarfoz: w00t
15:05.19Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r271 / (2 files in 1 directory):
15:05.22RepoBadBoy: Now only scans official blizz custom channels(gen/trade/etc), should prevent odd problems with RPr's and their weird addons using chat channels for data communication.
15:05.22Ackisphyber: just odd since arl does it, tomtom doesn't
15:06.04phyberyup, most of my addons work fine too with it.  i assume at some point, one of them screws something up while loading.
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15:06.35vrakhmm, anyone got a good suggestion for a skillet-like replacement?
15:06.38Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r102 / (2 files in 2 directories): Ulduar encounter DB update
15:06.50Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r103 Tactics/Tactics-enUS.lua: Tactics update
15:06.59StanzillaAckis: that's a blizz "bug"
15:07.19Stanzillaif you have many addons using the interface options panel so it would have to scroll down to tomtom, it doesn'
15:07.20Stanzillat
15:07.29AckisStanzilla: *nod* ok, I've never experienced it before
15:07.33phyberclassy.
15:07.53Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v3.3.0.0 * r272 : Tagging as v3.3.0.0
15:08.08Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r104 HISTORY.txt: Updated release notes for release 1.0.0
15:08.21Ackisjnwhiteh: ok I was pulling your leg, I didn't find a bug in tomtom, other than it doesn't work in wrath
15:08.59maqrAckis: tomtom works well for me
15:09.05Funkeh`zomg liek update already lulz
15:09.07maqrAckis: also, hey, you're that recipes guy :P
15:09.09Ackis(inside joke)
15:09.14Ackismaqr: I didn't do it! :(
15:11.43maqrsay i wanted tomtom to play a sound when i get within X yards of wherever i'm going, what would be the best way for me to go about that?
15:11.52Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink 041.0.0 * r105 : Tagging as 1.0.0
15:11.53jnwhitehadd a callback to the callback table.
15:12.09maqrdo i do that with a new addon, or do i have to patch tomtom?
15:12.39jnwhitehprobably have to alter TomTOm
15:12.41jnwhitehbut I'd have to look
15:13.05maqrjnwhiteh: if i did it right, do you accept user patches? :)
15:13.12jnwhitehif they don't suck
15:13.13jnwhiteh:P
15:13.17maqrsweet
15:14.40Ackislol
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15:21.56Ackis@project broker-item-list
15:21.57RepoAckis: No project found that matches 'broker-item-list'
15:23.28Elkanohmm, ackis, that reminds me of my ItemListFu ^^
15:23.41Ackisit is I think
15:25.11ElkanoI doubt it
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15:28.36Repo10broker-itemlist: 03Ackis * r24 Broker_Itemlist.toc:
15:28.39RepoMake it so you can use nolibs and fix the toc so it loads the proper libraries.
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15:33.17Ackisrawrrrrrz
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15:39.56Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r202 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua:
15:39.59RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
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15:42.17HjalteDoes anyone know if hotmail has a limit to the size of attachments of incoming mails?
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15:45.14Ackis~framexml
15:45.15purlGet the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/
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15:56.05NeoTronjnwhiteh: the reason /tomtom doesn't go to the right entry is that that feature only works if tomtom (or whatever addon) is on the currently displayed list of addons
15:56.13NeoTronjnwhiteh: Blizzard bug...
15:56.22jnwhitehokay
15:59.20durcynyeah, InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory assumes the frame you want to display is visible, otherwise it silently fails, how cool is that
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16:02.44Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r19 / (15 files in 15 directories):
16:02.47Repostart cleaning up module instantiation, still not functional
16:04.23Dark_Elfwonders how much PopCapGames paid Blizzard to get there addons into wow
16:05.14Arrowmaster$0
16:06.13Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1724 / (4 files in 3 directories):
16:06.15RepoChange seasonal to world events, and remove all the localizations for them.  Use the achievement panel names instead.
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16:07.53Fisker-hoho
16:07.55Fisker-i'm back
16:08.11Gnarfoz/care
16:08.18Fisker-nice
16:08.26Fisker-Didn't think anyone would care
16:08.32Fisker-hugs Gnarfoz
16:09.07Gnarfoz~kiss Fisker-
16:09.09purlACTION forces Fisker- to give Zarhan a big kiss on the hand
16:09.20Fisker-~kiss Fisker-
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16:09.21Gnarfozoy vey! :O
16:09.28Gnarfozeven the bots now.
16:09.35Adysgtfo Fisker- :(
16:09.49Fisker-blame Gnarfoz
16:09.58Gnarfoz~blame Fisker-
16:09.58purlACTION blames Fisker- (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
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16:32.39Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1725 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: Fix ticket 500
16:36.54Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1726 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: Fix a LW flag pattern
16:37.34Repo10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r62 / (2 files in 2 directories):
16:37.37RepoZOMGBuffs: Fixed an issue with the popup list sometimes getting an action blocked (if new members were created since you last saw it and you attempt to open it in combat). Added a quick hack fix for the sneak change to Mana Spring Totem now overwriting Blessing of Wisdom, it simply won't ask you to buff anyone with mana spring for the moment. Until of course, Blizzard realises the mistake and does the same as they did for Battleshout/BoM.
16:42.03GnarfozZeksie: you're late? that was hotfixed already, at least that's what they said
16:42.22Gnarfoz:>
16:42.31Zeksieare you sure.. it was happening to us just last nite.
16:44.12Trela_"Greater Blessing of Wisdom and Mana Spring Totem will no longer stack as intended."
16:44.16Trela_Fixed yesterday.
16:44.19Gnarfoz--^
16:44.27Fisker-that's just so they won't stack
16:44.30Gnarfoz"yesterday" depending on server restart since then
16:44.30Zeksieyes.. and yesterday mana spring was overwriting wisdom
16:44.43Fisker-overwriting != stacking
16:44.47Zeksiewhich still makes the statement true
16:44.56GnarfozI'll just check ingame ;)
16:44.56Trela_Oohhhhhh.
16:45.01Trela_checks brain.
16:45.02Zeksieif someone could. that'd be great
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16:45.29Trela_Over writing BoW with MST would be silly since BoW is more "permanent".
16:45.38Zeksieyep
16:45.45Zeksiesame with the BS/BoM episode.
16:45.50Zeksiethink they'd learn..
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16:46.10Fisker-mst and battle shout should be just as permanent :E
16:46.17sb|workhmmm vhaarr, are you going to implement ora3 mt targets anytime soon?
16:46.28Zeksiebattle shout aura? yes..
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16:47.22Trela_MST is a shorter duration, can be removed by running out of range, or removed by Astral Recall.  BoW is removed by death or right click, both of which is not the typical action of a player.  :P
16:47.30Trela_Damn it.
16:47.33Trela_misreads again.
16:47.37Trela_Sorry Mister Fisker.
16:47.58Trela_My boss left today for a new job.  ;-;
16:48.00Trela_wipes eyes.
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16:54.33Repo10ora3: 03StingerSoft * r140 locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update
16:54.50Hell-Razordoes anybody know what you have to add to your config.wtf for wow to always load target damage under the combat text section
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16:59.02sb|workffs
16:59.04GnarfozHell-Razor: nothing, you just have to disable whatever addon (or whatever addon's option, it probably has one to disable this behaviour) unchecks it
16:59.10sb|worksome addon update just crashed my whisper stuff
16:59.17sb|workInterface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2491: attempt to concatenate local 'pflag' (a nil value):
16:59.20sb|work:/
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17:02.45durcynsb|work: headcount's filters are broken
17:03.14durcynif you're using that
17:04.14HjalteI'm using Headcount as well. sb, you having trouble with just normal whispers?
17:04.49Hell-RazorGnarfoz, it just wont save
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17:05.21Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r20 / (34 files in 16 directories): do away with LOD nonsense for the time being
17:05.39GnarfozHell-Razor: uhm, again
17:05.53sb|workdurcyn: yup
17:05.54GnarfozHell-Razor: that's not default UI behaviour... does this happen with no addons enabled?
17:05.58sb|workHjalte: yup
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17:06.27nevcairieldurcyn: time being? keep it gone imho =P
17:06.30durcynsb|work: gimme a sec and i'll fix it, kagaro's got the normal event handlers and the filters going through the same function for some bizarre reason
17:07.11durcynoh, nevermind
17:07.13durcyneither way, sec
17:07.34Gnarfozso, does anyone know why the hell WoW's performance was *really* good in 3.1 and went back to sluggish with 3.1.1?
17:08.05Gnarfoztalking about FPS, pretty globally. Dalaran, 25man raids, everything :\
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17:08.25Hell-RazorGnarfoz, i figured it out...you were rite something was disabled it
17:08.46dodga"What? The game is playable now? We cannot allow this! Insert random stuff makes it unplayable!"
17:08.59Gnarfozdodga: really kind of felt that way
17:09.09nevcairieli didnt notice any change
17:09.26dodgai didn't really play a lot
17:09.30ArrowmasterClassnevcairiel: so imho AceHook-3.0 needs a new feature for the new hoops that need jumping through because of the xml change
17:09.32dodgalately, that is..
17:09.46nevcairielArrowmasterClass: why? there is already HookScript
17:10.07ArrowmasterClassbecause hookscript isnt good enough
17:10.11nevcairielsure it is
17:10.15ArrowmasterClassnope
17:10.18dodgaBut yesterday, after patching, after logging in my WoW was frozen for like 2-3 minutes in dalaran and then I got disconnected. Relogged, frozen again for like 1 min, then everything was normal..
17:10.34durcynhrm, looks like seppyk locked the repo
17:10.39ArrowmasterClassnevcairiel: right now handynotes is broken because it uses HookScript
17:10.49nevcairielthats not my problem
17:10.51nevcairielblame Xinhuan
17:11.01Hjaltedodga: That could be the same errors I had with my cache being cleared.
17:11.08ArrowmasterClassyou have to hook the global and the script
17:11.24durcynsb|work: anyway, go into HeadCount.lua and comment out the 'return false,...' lines in the CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_FILTER and CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM_FILTER functions
17:11.31ArrowmasterClassjust hooking the script will causes issues
17:11.45nevcairielthat general assertion isnt true
17:11.50durcyn~seen kagaro
17:11.53purlkagaro <n=kagaro@cpe-098-026-067-218.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 5h 20m 48s ago, saying: 'we were'.
17:11.54dodgaHjalte: Yeah, I got some "Unknown item: <some id>" messages in ChatFrame1, but don't know which addon caused that... it was gone after I relogged though :D
17:11.54nevcairielit totally depends on the use
17:12.21Hjaltedodga: That could be one of Tekkubs addons, I've seem them print text like that.
17:12.22ArrowmasterClassand totally requires greping the framexml every single patch to know if you need to update it
17:12.36nevcairielthats what hook do to you
17:12.37nevcairielalways
17:12.40Hjaltedodga: I fixed it with some help from blizzard and a link from Fisker-.
17:12.42nevcairielthey could change arguments
17:12.48nevcairielor other silly stuff
17:13.13dodgaI see
17:13.26Gnarfoznevcairiel: I did notice a change... as did a guildie of mine who's laptop isn't that fast... he went from 8fps or something in 25man trash fights to something playable like 18fps, and now is back to 8fps :P
17:13.28sb|workdurcyn: i disabled the addon for now, should do it
17:13.30sb|workthank you
17:13.37Gnarfoznevermind that he's topping damage meters even with that low fps ;O
17:13.44nevcairielheh
17:14.15Trela_Any one have any idea what I am doing wrong here?  Error: http://paste.wowace.com/533/ - Code: http://paste.wowace.com/534/  I set it to false and it still gives me an issue.
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17:14.45nevcairielArrowmaster: if you hook a blizzard function, you always need to check the framexml for implications and changes in patches, or your addon is just waiting for issues
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17:15.44nevcairielTrela_: its the same error with false?
17:15.56nevcairielthat doesnt even make sense
17:15.57Trela_Yes, even with putting a blank function.
17:16.14nevcairielleave it out completly?
17:16.19nevcairielnot like a select needs a validate
17:16.24nevcairielbecause there is no user input
17:16.31nevcairielwell, no direct user input
17:16.33nevcairieljust pre-selected
17:16.44ArrowmasterClassnevcairiel: so would you say the solution is to hook both the global and the script handlers anytime you hook default ui?
17:16.54Trela_ClearFont.args.font.validate: expected a methodname, funcref or false, got 'table: 0x285c76e8'
17:16.59Trela_Same thing for leaving it out.
17:17.21nevcairielArrowmaster: no, the solution depends on every case. I have some stuff where i only have to hook the script handler, actually i never had to hook both so far
17:17.51ArrowmasterClassnevcairiel: well i just see huge conflicts happening because of multiple addons hooking in different ways
17:18.17nevcairielagain, thats a general hooking issue, and if all addons use AceHook, no issue.
17:18.37nevcairielTrela_: can't be
17:18.54nevcairielTrela_: however, your select does lack a "values" member
17:19.08Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1727 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList:
17:19.11Repo- added new all/none options to armor and weapon filters
17:19.14Repo- (still need to remove some of the old all/none stuff)
17:19.28Trela_It is possible it is completely borked and Ace3 is throwing a different error because of that.
17:20.07nevcairielmaybe it throws the wrong error because the values is missing, i'll check later
17:20.23nevcairielhave to buy grocerys for the weekend now, bbl
17:20.28Trela_Have fun!
17:21.53GnarfozArrowmasterClass: was that you who bricked (or so) his usb flash drive recently, trying to make it bootable?
17:22.50ArrowmasterClassi bricked one years ago
17:22.55ArrowmasterClassa 128mb i think
17:23.01ArrowmasterClassor 64mb
17:23.05Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r14 / (5 files in 2 directories): - Added AceConfig-3.0 to the libs included.
17:23.08Repo- Characters can now be ignored, rather than just removed. Get rid of those bank alts or low level alts you don't care about. You can unignore a character from the menu on the ignored character for now.
17:23.11Repo- DB has been changed so that characters from both Alliance and Horde can be tracked from the same menu.
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17:25.23Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1728 AckisRecipeList.lua: Fix drop down menus (Ticket 484)
17:26.42GnarfozArrowmasterClass: hm. somebody recently talked about making one bootable, meh :\
17:28.23ArrowmasterClassi was
17:28.41Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1729 RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua: Fix hearty rhino filter flags
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17:36.47Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r15 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Fix the unignore command
17:36.50Repo- Better tooltips for the menu describing what you can do with tradeskills, and why some may be grey.
17:36.53Repo- Tweaked the color of characters on the opposite faction.
17:36.58Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.3 * r16 : Tagging as v0.3
17:38.33GnarfozArrowmasterClass: could you point me to whatever you read to do it? I was in a hurry and used some BartPE tools or whatever and now the flash drive I used is treated as an HDD :\
17:38.43GnarfozArrowmasterClass: trying to undo that and make it a flash drive again ^^
17:43.51Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r21 / (50 files in 5 directories): reorganize directory structure a bit, nothing to see here
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17:44.44ArrowmasterClassGnarfoz: i have no clue
17:45.15ArrowmasterClassGnarfoz: if you have another flash drive try using dd to copy it
17:45.35Trela_nevcairiel: When you get back.  It was a bunch of fail in the coding.  Ignore that error.  :D
17:52.51Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.3.1 * r17 : Tagging as v0.3.1
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17:58.52NeoTronGnarfoz: so it appears the only german death string that's missing is Thorim (since I realy didn't need Mimiron)
18:00.36Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r18 TradeskillMenu.lua:
18:00.39Repo- Linking a tradeskill via shift-click will now show the chat frame edit box instead of failing if it isn't visible.
18:00.52Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.3.2 * r19 : Tagging as v0.3.2
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18:03.27Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1731 Docs/CHANGES.txt: Update changelog.
18:03.28WobinNeoTron: German Death String sounds like a new style of music =P
18:08.40Gnarfoz~lart wobin
18:08.40purlsquishes wobin like a bug
18:08.59GnarfozNeoTron: so? does this relate to the line 406 error? ^^
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18:14.16Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1732 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList:
18:14.19Repo- removed code which was used for the old all/none options
18:19.38draculackknight: this small patch adds integration of FizzWidget FactionFriend to Dominos' XP/Rep bar: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/dominos/tickets/33-support-for-fizzwidget-faction-friend/
18:19.44Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r20 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Move the changelog to something a bit more user-friendly.
18:19.45draculawithout breaking anything if you don't have it ;)
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18:20.16nevcairielWhy do you tell ckknight? :)
18:20.30draculaeh, good question
18:20.58draculathe Curse client confused me again ;)
18:21.07draculait doesnt update the info panel initially
18:21.25nevcairieltoo bad tuller isnt around now, though =)
18:21.56draculathen let me abuse my false highlight to ask ck if the Chinchilla Expander patch has already been added? :)
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18:27.13AntiarcDaemona: I do, yes, sorta
18:27.22AntiarcIt works without any changes AFAIK
18:27.26AntiarcI haven't bumped the TOC, though
18:27.36Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r21 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Some locale cleanup.
18:27.56Daemonai get massive amounts of errors in context with some castbar stuff in framexml
18:28.17AntiarcOh, is it Deadened doing that
18:28.18Antiarc?
18:28.18Daemona(might be due to quartz being outdated too perhaps?)
18:28.24AntiarcI get one on login, then never again
18:28.48Daemonai dont have it enabled cant give you a pastey due to raid now, but i will try to remember
18:29.12nevcairielquartz alone works fine
18:29.56Daemonayup
18:30.09Daemonamight be some quartz deadened interaction
18:31.43AntiarcQuick question: Anyone know what might be causing me to not see certain debuffs on enemy players?
18:32.03AntiarcIn arena, I never ever see Mark of the Wild on enemies, either via Pitbull, EBB, or Quartz
18:32.36ShefkiWell filtering I'd guess, but PB doesn't filter enemy debuffs by default.
18:33.01AntiarcI've got filtering off. It's happening in all three mods, which is what's bizarre.
18:33.06AntiarcIt's very frustrating.
18:33.29ShefkiSomething hooking UnitAura but that's pretty bizarre.
18:33.48AntiarcThat's all I can think but I can't find any instances of it.
18:34.25ShefkiTried making a macro to dump auras to chat and see if it's there?
18:34.35AntiarcNo, I should do that
18:34.39AntiarcI know it's "there" - my partner can see it
18:34.46AntiarcI just can't find evidence of it in my UI
18:34.53AntiarcAnd I don't usually have a ton of debugging time in the arena :P
18:35.07ShefkiYeah I understand that.  No idea why.
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18:35.34rubikI thought you played a rogue... you guys can't stun lock for like 3 minutes straight anymore? :P
18:35.37Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r22 / (4 files in 2 directories): more conversion work on base
18:35.40Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r22 / (4 files in 2 directories): - First checkin of German and Russian translations.
18:35.57DaemonaAntiarc get some people and go to nagrand in the open arena? ;)
18:35.57AntiarcWhat's stunlocking have to do with knowing who you're up against? :P
18:36.11Antiarc(and I'm playing a paladin alt now, and it's 1000x easier)
18:36.42AntiarcMy paladin in weak-ass PVE gear and a guild DK in PVE gear with a PVE spec went from 0->1600 last night fairly trivially
18:36.46AntiarcIt's pretty hilarious.
18:37.06rubikhaha.. sorry, i meant as a response to the you-don't-have-much-time-to-debug in arenas thing
18:37.06AntiarcThough I'm playing priest/rogue again this season and that's showing very strong.
18:37.13AntiarcAha. I'm slow today :P
18:38.39rubikcrazy.. i should try taking my pally in there. holy, i assume?
18:39.50ShefkiI'm tempted to give arena a try again this season now that things seem a tad more balanced.
18:40.07Antiarcret/frost is proving very popular
18:40.17AntiarcI'm playing holy/unholy at the moment because we're lolcasuals
18:40.26AntiarcBut I may well give ret/frost a go once I have gear for it
18:40.43rubikinteresting
18:41.12Antiarcret/priest is also insanely strong, because priests are so durable now.
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18:41.37Antiarcreally, disc priest/anything is the favorite for "OP comp of the season" right now.
18:43.30Fisker-i r bord
18:45.27Daemonago do 25man freya hardcore
18:45.29Daemonaproblem solved
18:45.50AntiarcWhat buffs do the watchers give Freya?
18:46.15Fisker-Daemona 25man what now?
18:46.26Fisker-We're busy launching naxx raids
18:46.39Fisker-Because why go ulduar when you can go naxx instead?
18:46.41Daemonauuh not sure i only know it hurts
18:47.03kenlyricwhy sleep with a model when you can sleep with a crack whore.
18:47.17kenlyrica lot less pressure with the crack whore
18:47.23Fisker-i don't think i follow you kenlyric
18:47.36Daemonabut the model is less likely to give you aids kenlyric ,)
18:47.44kenlyricbest not to follow anyone after a crack whore.
18:50.01Daemonamagic dmg +50%, dmg of allys +50%, phys dmg +50%
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18:52.22Daemona@ Antiarc
18:52.43Fisker-hey Daemona
18:52.48Fisker-wanna do some naxx25?
18:52.54AntiarcThat doesn't seem TOO horrible.
18:52.59AntiarcSunflare might be problematic.
18:53.13Daemonarethink that once the detonating lasher explode for 15k each and 2 explode at the same time
18:53.15sylvanaarthe model is just a crack whore in the making
18:53.26durcynnature's fury is lethal with the buff up
18:53.33AntiarcAh, okay, that makes sense.
18:53.35durcynand snaplasher hits like two trucks
18:54.03Fisker-goes to naxx
18:54.20AntiarcWhere does Freya hardmode fall on the scale of Sarth+3/other Ulduar hardmodes?
18:55.11Gnarfozsarth+3 is in ulduar? ^^
18:55.21durcynit's the easiest of the watchers, based on what we've seen so far
18:55.39DaemonaMuru pre-nurg Antiarc
18:55.40durcynas long as your dps can keep up with the adds through the hp increase
18:55.40Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1733 / (4 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList:
18:55.43Repo- added new tooltips to the armor and weapon texts
18:55.44AntiarcWell no, but I've done a lot of Sarth+3 so I have a good feel for the difficulty gradient.
18:55.47Repo- optimized weapon filter check boxes positioning
18:55.50Repo- removed disabled reputations from filter count
18:55.54AntiarcDaemona: Heh. Fun.
18:56.36Daemonano not really :(
19:00.15sztanpetShefki do you get a wow error when disabling gift of the wild by any chance? :D
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19:16.36EvilJohnwhat thread is TB hammering on?
19:16.59EvilJohnMT
19:17.34Fisker-slaps EvilJohn around a bit with a large trout
19:17.47steevhttp://www.jonesbigasstruckrentalandstorage.com/jonesgoodassbbqandfootmassage.html
19:17.52EvilJohni'll admit
19:17.54EvilJohnI deserved that.
19:18.00EvilJohnjust listening to blu-plz
19:19.29NeoTron<PROTECTED>
19:19.41NeoTronI admit it was rather surprising to see someone unlock algalon that fast
19:20.03Fisker-i you lied to me neon
19:20.07Fisker-you too NeoTron
19:22.01Fisker-moo: os: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate - (6.1.7100)
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19:25.31ramozwho unlocked algalon?
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19:31.02NeoTrondon't recall but was on mmo-champ
19:31.05NeoTron10 man version
19:34.37ramozah
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19:42.26KobenDoes anyone know anything about the customfilters feature on Prat? The documentation doesn't look to exist, and apparently it uses some regular expressions but not others. I'm having a hard time getting it to work right.
19:43.19waallenckknight: any plans of adding the arena enemy unit frames to PB4?
19:43.46sylvanaartheres not much to know Koben - just have to experiment. there is some docs in the prat thread on the forums
19:44.02ckknightwaallen: you do it
19:44.03ckknight<.<
19:44.03ckknight>.>
19:44.05ckknight:P
19:44.08waallen:D
19:44.09ckknightactually, shouldn't be too hard
19:44.55Repo10ag_unitframes: 03Shadowed * r705 / (4 files in 4 directories):
19:44.58Repo* Changed 2D portraits so they at least look square (Even, if they really aren't)
19:45.01KobenI've been experimenting a lot. The problem is I'm trying to figure out a way for it to match the start of a word
19:45.01Repo* Player buffs can now be right clicked off through the unit frames
19:45.04Repo* Fixed bugs related to the group tab not functioning correctly for raid and party
19:45.07Repo* Fixed an error in PartyMemberFrame.lua when trying to show the blizzard party frames again
19:45.16Koben^ was the closest I got, but that only matches the start of a line.
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19:45.33KobenI looked up regular expressions but custom filters only uses like half of them.
19:46.00Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1734 / (4 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList:
19:46.04Repo- added all/none filter options to all three reputation panels
19:48.11Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r23 / (2 files in 2 directories): start cleaning up the Player module
19:48.28Repo10ag_unitframes: 03Shadowed 04r705 * r706 : Tagging as r705
19:49.26NeoTronif you tag using 'rXXX' why not just edit the last auto-created file? :P
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19:53.26Kobenokay, I just looked through all 71 pages of the Prat thread - there was no documentation on expressions used in CustomFilters
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20:00.55Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1735 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList:
20:00.58Repo- all pop ups now hide if at least one recipe shows up
20:01.40KilrooKoben: since you say you looked up regex and what you're doing doesn't support all of them, I take it \b isn't supported?
20:02.37maqrckknight: btw, i've found that if i have the curse profiler addon it seems to cause some problems when exiting wow, like wow hanging or the curse client crashing
20:02.50maqrckknight: i don't have any backtraces or anything, just thought i'd mention it
20:02.54ckknighthmm
20:03.29HjalteI've heard of the curse client crashing when trying to upload Profiler data as well.
20:03.50Hjaltemaqr: WoW hanging can be caused by a lot of addons though. You using recount for example?
20:04.24maqrHjalte: yeah, but it's almost certainly the curse addon
20:04.43maqrHjalte: me and a friend of mine have had the same issue, both solvable by disabling the curse client addon
20:05.10ShefkiI've never understood why anyone would want to run one of those addons anyway.
20:05.13kenlyricdoes the wow window go completely black during loading too?
20:05.19ShefkiCurse really can get their own data.
20:05.35KobenKilroo: Yes, I tried \b
20:05.45KobenDidn't seem to work
20:05.52maqrkenlyric: i've had that happen, but i don't think that's curse related, seems to be related to me alt tabbing at the wrong times
20:05.56kadrahilrawr 2 hours left at work :(
20:06.28ShefkiI'm somewhat surprised that Blizzard hasn't put their foot down on those addons anyway.  The ToU already says that you can't do that.
20:06.31maqrShefki: it'd make sense if curse provided an api for developers to send/received saved variable data from their users, i'm not sure what the current profiler does though
20:06.32kadrahilKoben: regex for what? i just hopped ack i
20:06.34kadrahilin*
20:07.06Shefkimaqr: Let's you post your characters on Curse (pointless IMHO now that armory exists) and captures quests, item etc data for wowdb.
20:07.32maqrShefki: oh, that doesn't sound too useful
20:07.52kenlyricuseful to curse
20:07.59maqri don't even see how it'd be useful to them
20:08.12Shefkimaqr: Collects the data they display to us on wowdb.
20:08.32ShefkiHonestly the only useful data it really collects IMHO is drop rates.
20:08.38maqri've never used wowdb, seemed kinda spammy to me, i use wowhead
20:08.50Shefkimaqr: wowhead has a similar tool.
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20:10.05Repo10better-quest: 03Kemayo * r150 core.lua: Countertastic!
20:12.04Odlawgod i hate code obfuscation.
20:23.54AntiarcHey, mod idea
20:24.12AntiarcAdd a frame and set a keybinding for it
20:24.32AntiarcFrame is hidden, when you press the keybinding, the screen dims and the frame pops up
20:24.46Antiarcdamage meters, pallypower, whatever
20:24.54Antiarcyes/no?
20:25.59NeoTron... widgets for wow/
20:26.01NeoTron?
20:26.05Antiarcmroe or less
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20:26.13AntiarcI could use the new animation stuff
20:26.16durcynbeen done, hasn't it?  Dock or somesuch
20:26.24AntiarcDock didn't do it too well
20:26.36winkillerbut same idea
20:26.40winkillerbasicallya
20:26.47winkillerand I still see no point
20:27.06AntiarcClean up your working UI, information on demand rather than ever-present
20:27.08winkillerI have some keybinds for omen/dm toggle
20:27.12durcyneh, hotkey/mouseover collapse of unimportant frames is actually useful
20:27.28winkillerit mostly needs no addon, that's what I mean
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20:27.40winkillerI have no frames that I'd apply this to
20:27.55winkilleronly never visible - always visible - or already keybound to toggle
20:28.06NeoTronAntiarc: it's an interesting idea - I can see things I want to have available but not always
20:28.16winkillersomething like quicksilver /gnome-do would be cooler
20:28.18AntiarcI may do it just to learn the animation API stuff
20:28.30AntiarcI don't have a Mac so I don't know the usage model :V
20:29.04rubikdoes WIM use a bit of that? i just started using it recently to track whispers (switched from Whisp) and it seems nice
20:29.18NeoTronAntiarc: so I tried to figure out LibDropdown and I admit I couldn't figure out why it bugged on me :P
20:31.29winkillerAntiarc: gnome-do pops up on keypress, then uses auto-completion of recent/probable stuff in the "launch" input field and then there's a second input field for an argument
20:31.56winkillersure, you have console.. so it's not as much a timesaver as starting apps with arguments etc
20:31.59WobinAntiarc: Dash
20:32.01Wobinon wowi
20:32.05Wobinbest addon EVA
20:32.12Wobinthanks kyhax
20:32.30WobinI've been using it for so long... it's great
20:32.31Antiarcyeah, that's kind of the idea
20:32.55winkillerI remember the "hey, I got an idea" thread on EJ
20:32.59winkillerveeery long ago
20:33.07winkillerand people were desperate for a beta
20:35.02KilrooI'm really starting to get into some of this modular stuff, particularly the core-plus-layout model
20:35.35Kilroothings like LDB, cargoShip, cargBags (latest one I'm fiddling with), HandyNotes, oUF
20:36.41WobinMVC?
20:37.00winkillermost LDB displays I tried fail in a way
20:37.11winkillerespecially Fortress, which I like best
20:37.14KilrooWhat you're describing kinda reminds me of how cargoShip layouts work...and it seems like it ought to be simple enough that I'd just about do it as a Hack script instead of an addon, once I saw an example of how it was done (or got off my lazy arse and did it myself).
20:37.22Wobinwinkiller: ninjapanel?
20:37.26winkillerTitanPanel had this nice "somehow arrange it, it will be ok"
20:37.32winkillerWobin: didn't try that one
20:37.42winkillerI'm scared of changin my Fortress config :P
20:37.42Wobinit's a cladhaire addon =)
20:38.10KilrooNinjaPanel and cargoShip are my favorites so far. Haven't actually tried NinjaPanel, but it looked more or less like cargoShip with just a smidge of in-game config.
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20:38.43WobinI've not seen cargoship
20:39.12WobinI've been trying to write Squawk in MVC
20:39.18AntiarcI just use ButtonBin
20:39.28Wobinand it's so ssimple I think I'm doing it wrong =P
20:39.38KilroocargoShip is sort of like an oUF layout for LDB.
20:39.45KilrooOnly less so.
20:40.03winkillerIf you know MVC, everything looks like a nail
20:40.09winkilleror how that saying went :P
20:40.26AntiarcMVC just makes an awful lot of sense
20:40.27KilrooIt gives you just enough of a framework to make it easy to configure your LDB stuff in the lua yourself.
20:40.32AntiarcIt results in terribly maintainable code
20:41.22WobinAntiarc: I'm kinda finding that =)
20:41.45Wobinlike, I know precisely where to change stuff to effect ideas
20:41.56AntiarcAnd you know that it's not going to break another piece of your app
20:42.31WobinI just don't know if I'm applying it too simplistically
20:45.13KilrooI'm actually having a harder time than I ought to with grasping MVC.
20:45.47AntiarcIt's not too hard. Your model is your data store. DB, whatever. It handles data and nothing but data.
20:46.02AntiarcThe view is how you look at the data. Given data, it should be able to represent it to the user.
20:46.05Wobinit can manipulate that data though, right?
20:46.20AntiarcThe view should never manipulate data
20:46.26Wobinno sorry, the model
20:46.28kadrahilthe model handles manipulating data
20:46.38AntiarcControllers manipulate data. They take input from the view, and modify the model, then pass the model to the view
20:46.47AntiarcWell, yeah
20:46.49kadrahilwell at the base level
20:46.57kadrahili think we know what we mean :P
20:47.02AntiarcModels handle manipulating data, controllers should be high-level interfaces to modifying models
20:47.04KilrooThe first place I worked as a programmer we used a setup that was -sort of- like MVC, only not quite.
20:47.05winkillerthe basic idea of MVC is just common sense
20:47.07WobinI was thinking more, manipulating the data outside of user input
20:47.16winkillerto avoid spaghetti code with many dependences
20:47.29kadrahilthink of the model as the most basic abstraction to whatever data store you're using
20:47.41Wobinlike making avaliable sorted lists, filtered groups, etc
20:47.49winkillera pure MVC in Java, all with bells, whistles and listeners isn't exactly fun
20:47.49Wobinfor the controller to pass to the view
20:47.50AntiarcThat's view code.
20:48.03AntiarcThe model shouldn't really be filtering. It's just a data set.
20:48.10AntiarcThe controller can pass a filtered data set to a view
20:48.16AntiarcAnd the view is stupid and just displays what it's given
20:48.32kadrahilthe only code i include in my models is adding, removing, and modifying objects
20:48.36kadrahilat the base level
20:48.41KilrooWe had a Model, and we had a UI made from standardized building blocks, but the Controller duties were sort of spread between the Model and the brokers that talked to it.
20:49.13AntiarcHonestly, playing with Rails gave me the clearest sense I'd gotten on how to use MVC properly
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20:49.23AntiarcIt's really easy if you stick MVC, and it gets really hard if you try to violate it.
20:49.30kadrahilAntiarc: i believe a model could also take some parameters (with defaults defined) from the view for sorting database results or limiting it
20:49.34KilrooAnd there was some view stuff that was in the model because we handled pagination using limits and subqueries, I think.
20:50.03Wobink, take for example, then, Squawk. It's essentially a twitter program for WoW, so each twitter has certain information about it, author, time, etc. I've been using the Model to say "give me the last 10 squawks from person X"
20:50.23AntiarcThat's controller code, IMO
20:50.32Wobinkk
20:50.33kadrahili think it could go either way
20:50.40AntiarcThe model can have method you invoke to get that, but actually getting that data set should be controller code
20:50.53kadrahilif you have a function in your model that takes an optional parameter limiting the results
20:51.00Wobinthis ^
20:51.14AntiarcPress a button on the view that asks for the last 10 tweets. Controller asks the model for the last 10, gets that resultant data set, and passes it to the view
20:51.21Wobinaye
20:51.23Repo10magic-comm: 038tImER * r57 MagicComm/CCSpellIDs.lua: - Add Repentance to CC spells
20:51.38GnarfozNeoTron: hope you don't mind ---^
20:52.14HirsuteWait, a twitter program for WoW?  
20:52.16AntiarcGeneral rule of thumb is that if you find yourself repeating your code, you probably don't have it factored correctly
20:52.37WobinHirsute: ^^
20:52.39kadrahilyeah
20:52.56kadrahili'm switching to openbsd on my work dev box ;O
20:53.05WobinHirsute: self contained in the game, since we can't get outside  info
20:53.39HirsuteWobin: That's what I was confused about.
20:53.43HirsuteI'm with you now
20:54.01AntiarcI really wish we would get external comms access in WoW
20:54.04Arrowmasteri still dont get the point of twitter
20:54.06Wobinwhich is why I changed the name to squawk
20:54.08AntiarcThe botters just hook into memory space already
20:54.17AntiarcArrowmaster: Do you use it?
20:54.24Arrowmasterno
20:54.26WobinArrowmaster: it's for the incremental blogggers
20:54.28AntiarcI didn't "get it" until I started using it
20:54.34AntiarcBut I do now and rather enjoy it
20:56.24KilrooI'm really looking forward to fiddling with cargBags more.
20:56.51HirsuteI enjoy seeing little updates from my buddies, and posting little updates. It's fast, so it doesn't take much commitment, and let's me quickly share things of humor/interest.
20:56.56Wobinwhat's your username on twitter, antiarc?
20:57.00Antiarccheald
20:57.10HirsuteIt's like facebook or IM statuses without the facebook/im
20:57.20Wobin*pow*
20:57.21Kilroo...It does occur to me that I might personally like Pernobilis better than Gnomed until I do my own layout...
20:57.42AntiarcWhat it really is, is like being in a group of people all having conversations. You can listen to the conversations you are interested in, and join one
20:57.52AntiarcIt's like IRC, but you only hear people you're interested in
20:57.57Arrowmastermy IM statuses only change between 3 presets, none, idle, and away
20:58.19HirsuteArrowmaster: Not the IMs I use.  I can generally set them to whatever I want.
20:58.21Arrowmastermines setup to automaticly go away when i lock my computer
20:58.27Arrowmasteri can too
20:58.29Arrowmasteri just dont
20:58.36Arrowmasterbecause i see no reason to
20:58.41Hirsute*nod*
20:59.00HirsuteAnd that's just fine.  I enjoy playing with them (particularly when I need to break up the monotony of studying)
20:59.49Wobinhttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/4/23/
21:01.04AntiarcFollow Shaq
21:01.09AntiarcBest twitter user ever.
21:01.19Antiarchttp://twitter.com/the_real_shaq
21:01.33AntiarcI dnt spell I use shaqbonics, I was fourth grade spellin bee champion, in hinesville ga, thank ouy vrey mcuh
21:01.47kadrahili forgot to enable ipv6 translation on my openbsd install
21:01.48kadrahil;|
21:02.10durcynit's just a sysctl
21:02.20WobinAntiarc: I liked his Oprah smackdown
21:02.21kadrahilah, i'll look aroud
21:02.29Antiarcyes, that made me guffaw.
21:03.21HirsuteThat made me almost blow my Dr. Pepper out my nose just now.
21:03.24Hirsute"twitter shitter"
21:03.33Wobinhehe
21:03.46kadrahildurcyn: oh apparently our dns server doesn't resolve ipv6 addresses
21:03.49kadrahillame
21:03.57WobinPA can be very hit and miss
21:04.02Wobinmost of the ttime miss
21:04.07Wobinbut occasionally funny
21:04.22Wobinanyway
21:04.25Wobintime to try to nap
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21:06.48Antiarchttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/4/22/ was awesome
21:06.51AntiarcCringeworthy
21:06.52AntiarcBut awesome
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21:24.34GnarfozNeoTron: ping
21:24.36PrimerNeoTron: I recall that you mentioned that the SavedVariables/MagicDKP.lua would have to be deleted to account for that localization issue...I kept getting the error until today, when I remembered this...anyhow, couldn't that have been accounted for in code?
21:24.56Primerlike, a prefs version setting or something?
21:25.21PrimerI'm curious because I had a similar situation, where I told people to delete my addon's pref file
21:27.40sb|worknevcairiel: do you know whats wrong with sRF rangecheck + talent specs?
21:27.53nevcairielthere is nothign wrong
21:27.55sb|workhm
21:28.20sb|workmage reported that all units are out of range after changing talent specs
21:28.30sb|workor using teleporters in ulduar
21:28.52nevcairieltell him to get the alpha
21:28.57sb|workokay
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21:37.23Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r24 / (6 files in 3 directories): package as Quartz3 so we can test alongside mainline
21:38.19KemayoNice to see development on quartz. (It still works perfectly... but the config screens just look weirdly out of place nowadays.) :)
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21:40.45Repo10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r169 Options/localization/YurrCombatLogOptionsLocale.lua: YurrCombatLog:
21:40.48Repo- fix for non-translated locales
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21:41.56NeoTronGnarfoz: yar
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21:42.21GnarfozNeoTron: (it will of course not be used by anything until you bump the rev of MagicComm.lua :o)
21:42.23durcynKemayo: yeah, waterfall can go the way of the dodo, and soon
21:42.49Nechcknckknight  suggestion for some WoWAce forum poll-  Have you ever posted a NSFW pic of yourself on the net for the purpose of either sending it to people or <cough> recruitment <cough> of  friends with benefits.  
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21:42.55NeoTronPrimer: of course. however I have limited time.
21:43.10ckknightNechckn: sure have
21:44.09NechcknSee... I am too whatever for that... heck, I don't even think there are pics of that type in existance.
21:45.24Pneumatuswhats the version of /console CameraDistanceMaxFactor 4 that lasts between logouts?
21:46.52NeoTronGnarfoz: need to modify MagicMarker to support that as well I suppose.
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21:48.48Repo10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r133 core.lua:
21:48.51RepoAdd a callback to keep the db shortcut correct when profiles change
21:48.57vhaarrsb|work: when I have time I currently tweak the ulduar bigwigs modules and make sure others commits look sane
21:49.10vhaarrsb|work: when Ammo is back from vacation (possibly this week), we'll get some more work done on oRA3
21:50.17Antiarcvhaarr: XT's tantrum timer was 10-12 sec too long in 25s on Wednesday
21:50.17GnarfozNeoTron: magicmarker? ^^ I did that for MagicTargets
21:50.27vhaarrAntiarc: yeah I'll just remove it completely
21:50.32vhaarrAntiarc: it's impossible to time it
21:52.29Repo10liblogger-1-0: 03dhedbor * r32 LibLogger-1.0.toc: Toc bump
21:52.32NeoTronGnarfoz: understood
21:52.37NeoTronbut magicmarker also uses it :P
21:52.58durcynyou're up to three lordfarlander libs now, neo :(
21:53.00nevcairielI wonder if you've been using magicmarker lately, with all the errors that popped up when you used the options =p
21:53.43NeoTronI use it daily
21:53.48NeoTronand has seen no errors
21:53.56NeoTronI noticed you fixed something but I never saw a single error
21:54.04nevcairielyou probably didnt use the options then :)
21:54.26nevcairielconfiguring which CCs and which Icons to assign threw errors
21:54.26NeoTronI did
21:54.40nevcairielall your custom widgets
21:54.47nevcairielteh broken!
21:55.05NeoTronwell I understand :P but I still got no errors with it
21:55.32nevcairielYou had to, the templates simply error if you create the frames without a name
21:55.43nevcairielunless you never accessed a page with one of the custom widgets
21:55.56nevcairielwhich you usually don't once you have it set up, i guess
21:55.59NeoTronwell if it errored I didn't notice.
21:56.02NeoTronchange in 3.1?
21:56.06nevcairieldunno
21:56.11nevcairielbut buttons need a name now
21:56.13NeoTronI know for sure it didn't error before 3.0 at least
21:56.25nevcairieli only started using it again in 3.1
21:56.30NeoTronwell they should have had them, since best case it bugs in mysterious ways
21:56.48NeoTronbut it's been "working" fine since forever so it has to be a new change
21:56.55NeoTronthat made it error I mean
21:57.01nevcairielpossibly
21:57.06nevcairielit didnt block functionality either
21:57.10nevcairielit just threw errors :D
21:58.36NeoTrongood stuff
21:58.41Gnarfozalso remember that sometimes bugs only occur on fresh installs ;)
21:59.03nevcairieli still wonder how that part in magic looter ever worked that i fixed
21:59.07nevcairielhehe
21:59.43nevcairielalthough i'm not using that anymore
22:02.16Repo10xperl: 03Zeksie * r275 XPerl_RaidAdmin (2 files in 1 directory): XPerl: ItemChecker scrollbar fixes.
22:03.51NeoTronnevcairiel: called being in-development. it changed at some point
22:04.06NeoTronand wasn't it just something like a missing local?
22:04.19nevcairielyea it was
22:04.26nevcairielbut, you had the same var in 2 files
22:04.34nevcairielso the second would totally screw with the first
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22:05.22NeoTronbut they contained the same data
22:05.32NeoTronso a overwrote a basically
22:05.55nevcairieli dunno, half the options of magic looter didnt want to show until i fixed it
22:06.45NeoTronanyhow I do wonder how I made that particular mistake
22:07.00nevcairielthose just slip in
22:07.02nevcairielwho knows
22:07.19Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5362 Ulduar (6 files in 1 directory):
22:07.22Repo* Remove Tantrum warnings and bars from the XT-002 module, they're useless and it's basically impossible to time.
22:07.25Repo* Reset harpoon count on Razorscale each grounding phase.
22:07.28Repo* Remove Chain Lightning warnings on Iron Council.
22:07.31Repo* Some random color and sound tweaks all around.
22:09.44maqrmaybe someone can kick me in the right direction, because i'm lost here... i've got some kind of wow bug that won't let me track more quests, and if i delete my wtf\account\name directory, it fixes it (but i obviously lose all of my settings), and i can't seem to isolate the files that're causing the problem
22:09.45Repo10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r170 / (2 files in 1 directory): YurrCombatLog:
22:09.48Repo- fixed LibStub in .toc, added CallbackHandler-1.0
22:10.07vhaarrmaqr: you've got some crap addon :p
22:10.48maqrvhaarr: it's not that, if i disable all addons, it still happens, i think there's some corrupt file somewhere in this wtf directory
22:11.33maqrvhaarr: i've been trying for quite a while now to pin down what it might be, but the only solution seems to be to delete all the files in the directory
22:12.20maqrvhaarr: if i delete just wtf\account\name\* or just wtf\account\name\realm\*, neither one of them fixes it... but if i delete both (and lose all of my settings), i can track quests again
22:12.26maqri'm extremely confused as how that might be happening
22:13.16vhaarrtried just deleting Config.wtf?
22:13.36maqrvhaarr: you mean config-cache.wtf?
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22:17.16Nechcknmaqr  config.wtf should be at ..\WorldofWarcraft\WTF
22:18.18NechcknThat is just your local settings as far as the Blizz stuff goes.  config-cache is much further down
22:18.19robotuschHM
22:18.22maqrNechckn: oh, i see, that's not the thing causing the issue though
22:18.28robotuschmethinks freenode is lagging a bit :<
22:19.55AxodiousFunkeh` did oyu get my msg yesterday about my yogg transcript?
22:20.38Nechcknmaqr  okay, so then you likely will need to do a binary search to determine if it is a specific file in a specific folder
22:20.42Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r25 locale (7 files in 1 directory): use temp Quartz3 namespace for locales too
22:21.41NechcknYou can also give ye olde blizzard repair utility a try
22:21.49maqrblizzard has a repair utility?
22:21.50Nechcknif you are under MS Windows
22:21.54maqri am
22:22.12Nechcknhttp://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=21465&searchQuery=Repair&pageNumber=1
22:22.20Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r26 / (2 files in 1 directory): add locale and module xml, oops
22:22.25NechcknBe sure to **uncheck* the first two options
22:22.41maqrNechckn: if i delete the realm settings, test, fail, then restore; delete the account settings, test, fail; it seems to indicate the problem is elsewhere... but if i delete both realm and account settings, it fixes it
22:22.45Nechcknjust have it rebuild the cache and then select the "Verify and repair" or whatever.. the top button
22:22.47maqrNechckn: that's why i'm so confused, but i'll try that tool
22:23.59NechcknTry that tool.. I really don't know if it gets in that far, but it should do the basic checks/ensure that the requisite files are there.
22:24.27NechcknSince the Blizz likes to say "disable all addons" before trouble shooting and all.
22:24.32maqrNechckn: oh, i've already got that addonkit thing
22:24.35NechcknBut- it can't hurt
22:24.45NechcknThe repair tool
22:25.05Nechcknnot the UI customization tool
22:25.24Nechcknhttp://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/Repair.zip
22:25.29maqroh, it linked it oddly
22:25.38maqrnevermind, i'm retarded :)
22:26.42maqrNechckn: oh, i see what this thing does, it checks the installation
22:27.14maqryeah, that won't do it, since it's in the wtf directory
22:27.20maqrgood to know it exists though
22:27.23NechcknBTW, no matter how this turns out, take this as the best warning to start backing up the entire WTF often.  We have a basic outline via http://wiki.norganna.org/Auctioneer/Backup
22:27.26NechcknDid you run it?
22:28.29maqrNechckn: i'm running the scan before i tell it to reset anything, but yeah, it just seems to scan the installed game content
22:29.04NeoTrondurcyn: so is the quartz+ace3 in a testable state yet?
22:32.05durcynNeoTron: nowhere close
22:32.16durcyni'm still fiddling with the modules and option tables
22:32.31Pneumatusis there a portal in ulduar down to vezax?
22:32.41vhaarrno
22:32.49vhaarrkologarn/freya
22:32.53NeoTrondurcyn: ok. I'll test it when it gets closer.
22:33.32Pneumatusfail, is there a teleport to yogg after vezax is dead?
22:34.01vhaarrye
22:34.19Pneumatusaha
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22:34.37Pneumatusgot mimiron down finally, thats one hell of a fight :o
22:35.07ShefkiSo someone write a filter Peggle addon yet?
22:35.11ShefkiTried of the spam on /g
22:35.30HjalteShefki: Ask them to stop publishing.
22:35.43ShefkiHjalte: Yeah right.
22:35.44NeoTronis that part unavoidable?
22:35.45Arrowmasterwrite a mod that gkicks them automaticly
22:35.47Pneumatus/gkick
22:35.55NeoTronor is it something the user has to start
22:35.55ShefkiArrowmaster: Don't have that priv.
22:35.56Pneumatusis a pretty effective filter
22:36.02NechcknThat's up to you, maqr.  Don't recall seeing a corrupt entire ..\WorldofWarcraft\WTF\Account\<user_name>\ it has most often been a single saved variable that is causing issues.  You may well be stuck, unfortunately.  No matter the outcome.. remember to start backing up via some automated method, whether as suggested on the wiki page or some "real" backup software.
22:36.38ShefkiHjalte: In theory you could just stop asking people to be assholes... But sometimes people don't comply so people gave us an /ignore function.
22:36.39NechcknAlso, I was thinking that you have, but just in case- check the properties on the entire WTF and set that to r/w for your computer user account, then select option to apply to sub-folders/documents and apply.
22:39.34NechcknGotta bolt, but best of luck with it.  Hopefully it's just the permissions or 1 file, not the whole thing.
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22:40.19vhaarranyone got a freya and mimiron p4 25man transcript?
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22:41.44Repo10gfx-toggle-2: 03Drool * r76 gfxToggle2.lua: - general code tidy-up; part 3
22:41.47Repo- use getter function for set display name
22:41.50Repo- separate CVar db out from other saved vars (all sets will be lost)
22:41.51maqrvhaarr: just a combatlog?
22:41.57vhaarrtranscript
22:42.03vhaarr@project Transcriptor
22:42.05Repovhaarr: http://www.wowace.com/projects/transcriptor/. Transcriptor. Game: WoW. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Updated: 14 hours ago. Tickets: 1/1
22:42.06maqrhow do you dump that?
22:42.06maqroh
22:42.20maqrhad i known i would have taken one last night, sorry :/
22:43.33Gnarfozmaqr: by opening the SV file ;)
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22:49.25Xinhuanackis
22:49.36Ackissup
22:49.39Xinhuanhow come libaboutpanel isn't lod
22:49.58Ackis42
22:52.01Ackisi've had really bad problems with lod tbh
22:52.44Pneumatuswhy is bigwigs spamming me that it needs transcriptor logs for yogg when im clearing vezax trash? :<
22:53.05maqrPneumatus: the trash in ulduar is so OP that you need alerts for it? :)
22:53.41vhaarrPneumatus: define "spamming"
22:53.55Pneumatusevery time i enter/leave combat it seems
22:54.58vhaarrfixed
22:55.00Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5363 Ulduar/YoggSaron.lua: Only show the log message when Yogg is engaged.
22:55.26Pneumatuspro
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23:03.09Repo10head-count: 03kagaro * r83 HeadCount.lua: HeadCount: update of filter.s
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23:07.49Pneumatusdoes headcount know about ulduar + its bosses yet?
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23:10.30rubikmaybe it does now but on wed, it labeled bosses like "Right Arm" and the 3 giants on Freya
23:10.47rubikbut i know it's had a couple updates since then that i saw
23:11.21NeoTronPneumatus: MagicDKP does with possible issue on general and yoggi :P
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23:11.35Pneumatusi dont want magicdkp tho :P
23:11.53NeoTronyou do, you just don't knew that you did
23:12.07NeoTrons/don't knew/didn't know/
23:12.29Repo10peggleoff: 03Shefki 07master * b352eee / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial commit.
23:12.46Pneumatuslack of images in its project page makes baby jesuses cry
23:12.56maqri have identified the file breaking my quest tracker
23:13.01maqrlayout-local.txt ... somehow
23:13.19Repo10peggleoff: 03Shefki 04v0.1 * 07f9e34 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.1
23:13.43ShefkiSomeone approve PeggleOff please. :)
23:13.47Gnarfoz@describe peggleoff
23:13.49RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/peggleoff/. PeggleOff. Filter Peggle spam from Guild, Party and Raid chat.
23:15.02maqrpeggle?
23:15.07maqrthere's a wow peggle addon?
23:15.13ShefkiGod yes.
23:15.19maqroh i'm behind the times
23:15.19Shefkiand it spams freaking chat.
23:15.38maqrthey put the most addictive game ever inside the most addictive game ever
23:15.40maqryo dawg, etc
23:15.44NeoTronPneumatus: yeah that is probably true
23:15.56NeoTronPneumatus: I'll get some up this week
23:16.10rubikhmm... never heard of this peggle game.. wtf
23:16.16NeoTronGnarfoz: btw do you see CC on Magic Targets bars?
23:16.19NeoTronGnarfoz: like duration/icon
23:16.26NeoTronbecause.. I don't. I must have broken it
23:16.34NeoTronrubik: came out like yesterday or something
23:16.37NeoTronfor WoW that is
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23:16.43maqrdoesn't obfuscation of code violate the tos?
23:16.46GnarfozNeoTron: yeah, it's broken
23:16.59rubikoh.. i meant i haven't heard of it outside of WoW so goggling now..
23:16.59Shefkimaqr: It's not exactly obfuscated.
23:17.00Repo10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r27 / (3 files in 3 directories):
23:17.03Repofix core options and defaults tables, modules are still broken
23:17.06maqrShefki: this is clearly obfuscated
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23:18.00Hirsutemaqr: Well, not the ToS directly, but the new UI policy
23:18.33maqryeah, take that, carbonite :P
23:18.44Repo10dr-damage: 03Detseuqer * r716 Readme.txt: DrDamage:
23:18.47NeoTronGnarfoz: I know I tried it sometime during development because I logged on my warlock
23:18.48Repo- Test commit to make sure I have permissions.
23:18.52NeoTronbut then I suppose I broke it
23:18.58maqrohh, a drdamage update, sweet
23:19.10GnarfozNeoTron: it's not erroring, so... not sure :D
23:19.26NeoTronyeah the code that calculates the cc string must bail
23:19.27NeoTronfail
23:19.38rubiki must try this peggle thing
23:19.45thuldoes hunters  rocketjump now?
23:20.03HirsuteHuh?
23:20.12HirsuteYou talking about disengage?
23:20.21NeoTronerr I appear to never actually USE the string I make
23:20.40maqrrubik: if only the code didn't look so evil... but i want to run it so much :/
23:21.09maqrwhoo! fixed my quest tracker problem!
23:21.45rubikohh.. so you guys saying that the Peggle code is obfuscated/bad?
23:22.01maqrrubik: i don't know what everyone else is saying, but i just looked at the lua and it's unreadable
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23:22.52maqri'm honestly thinking about running it just because of how addictive peggle is, but i don't want others in game to get spam :/
23:22.52rubikoh wow
23:22.56RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/peggleoff/. PeggleOff. Shefki (Manager/Author). Approved by ckknight.
23:23.30maqrwow, peggleoff is already on curse?
23:23.32maqrthat's damn fast
23:23.36ShefkiI just wrote it.
23:23.45maqrthat's awesome
23:25.15Repo10magic-targets: 03dhedbor * r81 MagicTargets.lua: [*]Fix display of cc strings/icons.
23:25.18maqrso apparently questhelper broke my quest tracker, and the solution was to delete the QH-related lines in layout-local.txt (in case anyone else has that problem)
23:25.19Repo[*]Support for Repentence.
23:25.22NeoTronthat should do the trick
23:27.00maqrckknight: btw, any chance of getting lightheaded into curse?
23:27.11ckknightit's unlikely
23:27.20ckknightsince it uses WowHead data
23:27.21ckknightowned by Zam
23:27.22maqrbecause of the user comments being farmed?
23:27.23maqryeah
23:27.24ckknightwhich is our competitor
23:27.55maqri wonder if they have an auto-updater
23:27.59GnarfozNeoTron: did you make it include alphas of MagicComm? (wouldn't you *still* need to bump MagicComm?)
23:28.03Hirsuteckknight: Because Curse wouldn't allow it there, or because Zam wouldn't?
23:28.26ckknightHirsute: ultimately it's jnwhiteh's decision, but his reasoning is that Zam wouldn't want it
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23:28.47Hirsute*nod*
23:33.29NeoTronGnarfoz: afaik packaging will use alpha AND I already bumped magic comm anyway
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23:36.06GnarfozNeoTron: packaging uses what you specify ;)
23:36.35Repo10handy-notes_flight-masters: 03Xinhuan * r73 / (2 files in 1 directory):
23:36.38RepoUpdate Wintergrasp, Icecrown, Dalaran and Sholazar Basin with new patch 3.1 flight paths connections (9 Alliance, 9 Horde, 12 neutral).
23:36.41RepoUpdate TOC to 30100 and version to v1.0.3.
23:39.08maqri'm pretty impressed with the animation in this peggle addon, even if it is evily obfuscated
23:40.13NeoTronI haven't seen it but.. you can pretty much do anything in terms of animation and stuff
23:40.30Xinhuan@project peggleoff
23:40.31RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/peggleoff/. PeggleOff. Game: WoW. Shefki (Manager/Author). Updated: 27 minutes ago
23:40.47XinhuanLOL
23:40.57kadrahilwat
23:41.29Xinhuanwhat, can't i lol? ;p
23:41.36kadrahilNO
23:41.38kadrahilYOU CAN'T
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23:45.47OdlawThere a way to return which iteration of string.gmatch we are on in a for loop:    for word in string.gmatch(TheString, "%a+") do
23:46.27Odlawor some other way of doing it.
23:46.43Xinhuanuse a counter?
23:46.45Xinhuanupvalue it
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23:46.58OdlawWas hoping for a simpilar way
23:47.06Odlawsimpler
23:47.15Xinhuanthat is the simplest (and only) way
23:47.24Odlawok :(
23:50.42Repo10grid: 03Sayclub * r1192 GridLocale-koKR.lua: koKR update
23:53.12GnarfozNeoTron: local MAJOR, MINOR = "MagicComm-1.0", 81000 + tonumber(string.match("$Revision: 55 $", "[0-9]+"))
23:53.19GnarfozNeoTron: from the latest magictargets zip
23:53.43GnarfozNeoTron: so if MagicMarker or DKP are present, Repentance will not work with any of them since it will not upgrade the others
23:55.15NeoTronGnarfoz: indeed.
23:55.23Gnarfozso I guess...
23:55.31NeoTronI never considered that part
23:55.48NivFreakchrist cell coverage sucks in SF
23:56.00NivFreakboth my verizon and at&t cells are spotty as fuck
23:56.01Hirsutewhat about buddha cell?
23:56.04Hirsute>.>
23:56.10NivFreak:P
23:56.14NeoTroneasy enough to fix going forward
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23:57.01NeoTronthat think changed so rarely I never had an issue :P
23:57.40NeoTronGnarfoz: although the way it is written now.. what ever loads last wins
23:57.50Gnarfozwhich... could be anything :D
23:57.54NeoTronindeed
23:58.04Gnarfozand shouldn't it bail out if the lib is already loaded?
23:58.07Gnarfozi.e. first one wins?
23:58.26NeoTronit should do a version check
23:58.37NeoTronthat's what it should do. if its minor > current minor, then overwrite
23:58.42Gnarfozand why can't I just 'touch MagicComm.lua' and commit, svn ignores the changed timestamp :X
23:58.52NeoTronno actual change :P
23:59.01NeoTronbut I'll fix that to use @project-revision@
23:59.09NeoTronhowever changing that doesn't fix the root cause :-/
23:59.29Gnarfozwhich obviously is: libraries split into multiple files suck for upgrading
23:59.44Gnarfozbecause you always have to touch the file that carries the version
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23:59.47NeoTronas I said, it was a static table I needed shared :P
23:59.53NeoTrondidn't change at all until 3.1 really
23:59.55NeoTronerr
23:59.56NeoTron3.0

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