00:00.00 | ckknight | was it you? |
00:00.09 | Shefki | Nope |
00:00.23 | Shefki | I just assumed I was shefki_ because my ISP was sucking for a bit yesterday and was too lazy to fix it. |
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00:01.27 | Shefki | shefki@research-dhcp43.elec.qmul.ac.uk |
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00:58.10 | Repo | 10gfx-toggle-2: 03Drool * r75 / (4 files in 2 directories): - general code tidy-up; part 2 |
00:58.13 | Repo | - remove some needless object var usage, remove many getter functions |
00:58.16 | Repo | - put colour code constants outside of localised strings |
00:59.51 | Repo | 10libqtip-1-0: 03Torhal 06scrollable * r68 LibQTip-1.0.lua: Added scrollHeap and scrollChildHeap. |
00:59.53 | Repo | Added "key" parameter to AcquireTooltip(), which is used to grab the scrollFrame and scrollChild from the heaps. |
00:59.58 | Repo | Modified InitializeTooltip() and FinalizeTooltip() for new heaps. |
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01:21.59 | Torhal | ckknight: pingage |
01:22.08 | ckknight | Torhal: pongitude |
01:22.43 | Torhal | ckknight: I talked with Cairenn about the cross-site addon push idea, and she said to ping Dolby again |
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01:37.27 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r57 / (14 files in 13 directories): Simplified Chinese (zhCN) Translation by Aladdinn |
01:37.30 | Repo | http://www.wowace.com/projects/everyquest/localization/zhCN/ |
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01:39.51 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r58 Modules/ (11 files in 11 directories): Module TOC Update |
01:40.10 | Cavisty^gerber | I know this is a bit offtopic |
01:40.21 | Cavisty^gerber | but any reason why I can't hear people talking in ventrilo? |
01:40.26 | Cavisty^gerber | I can hear all the like channel change sounds |
01:40.47 | Cavisty^gerber | but can't hear people talking, the volume thing in windows shows sound coming from ventrilo when people talk, i just don't hear it |
01:47.26 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1986 AtlasLayout/instances.en.lua: Updated Ulduar Atlas layout |
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01:58.35 | Ackis | Cavisty^gerber: is your computer on? headphones plugged in? vent turned on an running? |
01:58.45 | Cavisty^gerber | Ackis of course |
01:58.53 | Ackis | ok i'm out of ideas |
01:58.56 | Cavisty^gerber | my outputs are correct |
01:59.06 | Cavisty^gerber | windows 7 if that matters, but its always worked before |
02:02.04 | Torhal | Ackis: Pure, awesome, typical tech support question. "Is your computer on?" |
02:02.47 | Ackis | Torhal: or we can't help you with that, we're dumbasses |
02:03.03 | Torhal | Ackis: Hehe |
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02:35.04 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r59 EveryQuest.toc: Optional Deps fix |
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02:47.20 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r60 EveryQuest.toc: Optional Deps fix |
02:47.37 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz 042.1.9 * r61 : Whats new in 2.1.9? |
02:47.40 | Repo | Module TOC Update |
02:47.42 | Repo | Simplified Chinese (zhCN) Translation by Aladdinn |
02:47.46 | Repo | Optional Deps fix |
02:47.56 | Kilroo | Crap, Periscope's brokeded. |
02:53.59 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r62 Core.lua: Fix #8, won't tag it as it deals with debug stuff. |
02:57.13 | Kilroo | Hmm. |
03:03.25 | Kilroo | needs to do some hacking on cargBags. |
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03:17.09 | Repo | 10better-quest: 03Zhinjio * r148 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
03:17.12 | Repo | BetterQuest: |
03:17.15 | Repo | - changed header to be inline |
03:17.16 | Kilroo | ...Wow. |
03:17.18 | Repo | - fixed trackers to be able to properly "grow up" |
03:17.21 | Repo | - added setting for that |
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03:19.20 | Kilroo | If I'm reading the respective APIs correctly...using Periodic Table sets as cargBags filters ought to be extremely easy. |
03:20.31 | Kilroo | Only catch is that--again, if I'm reading it right--I'm not sure cargBags can show an item as being in more than one filter, so if the PT sets being used aren't disjoint that could get a bit confusing. |
03:20.42 | Repo | 10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r56 MagicDKP_Client.lua: Hopefully fixed invalid "can't use item" when bidding. |
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03:48.47 | BWMerlin | [TalentTree(unit="target")] is that the correct syntax to get my targets talents to display as text in pitbull4 using dogtags? |
03:48.48 | Axodious | Funkeh` |
03:49.02 | Axodious | ive got a combat log of yogg kill... transcriptor borkedt hough |
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03:59.00 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5356 Ulduar/Hodir.lua: BigWigs: Ulduar/Hodir: Add Storm Cloud spellID(10men) |
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04:03.20 | Repo | 10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r57 MagicDKP_Client.lua: [*]Fixed typo in bid error fix. |
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04:12.13 | Koben | Does anyone know where I can find the Prat documentation? |
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04:13.51 | Koben | I'm trying to find the documentation on Custom Filters but it refers to a link on wowace that doesn't exist anymore |
04:17.02 | Koben | Does Wowace have an archive of old stuff? |
04:18.21 | Koben | lol.. well I found it, old.wowace.com.. and it turns out the documentation is a blank page. Yaay. |
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04:51.04 | NeoTron | two shot Thorim. that was easy |
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04:52.50 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r183 / (2 files in 1 directory): [*]Core: Records events for Hodir, Freya and Thorim now. |
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05:20.19 | Repo | 10squawk: 03wobin * r14 Squawk.lua: Now supresses 'X Player is not online' messages when broadcasting to followers |
05:20.22 | Repo | Tooltip limited to 10 most recent |
05:25.57 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r184 MagicDKP.lua: |
05:26.00 | Repo | [*]Core: Don't use chat event for Mimiron since the three robo-mobs actually die. |
05:33.24 | Maelos` | Someone was mentioning if you have 2 accounts you can merge the toons with the new battle.net account merge stuff? |
05:35.38 | Trela | Maelos`: I did yesterday. |
05:36.06 | Trela | The accounts remain separate, but they both will have the same "name" to transfer between. |
05:36.51 | Maelos` | Sweet |
05:36.55 | Maelos` | How do I start? |
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05:37.59 | Trela | Make a Battle.net account first. |
05:38.13 | Trela | Then in its options you can choose to merge accounts. |
05:38.22 | Maelos` | cool |
05:38.52 | Trela | I will note that your new log in for the game will be your email address on the Battle.net account. |
05:39.13 | Wobin | but not for the ptr =) |
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06:06.58 | NeoTron | Mimiron phase 3... only problem is we usually get there with like 6 people alive :P |
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06:21.46 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r55 Bison.lua: new version |
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06:33.32 | evman182 | hey can someone help me with GUID parsing? |
06:35.38 | Torhal | evman182: It's just as dead in here at the moment. |
06:35.46 | evman182 | apparently |
06:35.48 | SunTsu | evman182: How should anybody know if he can if he doesn't know your problem? |
06:37.04 | evman182 | Is this gonna be as painful as reading the forums? |
06:37.23 | SunTsu | ~ask |
06:37.24 | purl | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
06:37.25 | NeoTron | ok rockets on melee on Mimiron is stupid |
06:37.53 | Trela | ~purl |
06:37.54 | purl | ACTION purrs |
06:37.59 | Trela | pets purl. |
06:38.06 | evman182 | well thats fun |
06:38.14 | evman182 | ok, if you want the full question. |
06:38.39 | Trela | Mud from Khadgar? |
06:38.53 | Trela | guesses! |
06:38.55 | sb|work | morning |
06:39.48 | evman182 | I'm working on an AddOn where I need to parse a GUID from a Unit_Died event to see whether it's describing a player of an NPC. I thought for players, after masking the first 3 digits with 00F, you should get 0, but I keep getting 8 |
06:40.05 | Trela | Oh, I have a document I wrote on that. *Pulls it up.* |
06:40.35 | evman182 | Seriously? |
06:40.49 | Trela | I made a huge document on the WoW protocol and that is part of it. |
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06:41.02 | Trela | I just need to figure out where I put it |
06:41.04 | Torhal | evman182: Also, looking at the latest builds of Grid should help, since it now uses GUIDs |
06:41.05 | Trela | I just need to figure out where I put it. |
06:43.48 | Trela | I do not believe my document will help. :x It lists specifics about GUIDs, but not how they are prefixed in game. |
06:44.14 | evman182 | what kind of specifics? |
06:45.09 | Trela | How WoW differentiates between channel GUIDs and such. I thought it would be similar, but it is very different in this case. |
06:47.25 | Trela | I wrote a program a while back that listens to chat channel packets and displays opposite faction/foreign languages in clear text overlaid onto the WoW window. |
06:47.29 | Trela | Also, time for bed! |
06:48.13 | Repo | 10better-quest: 03Kemayo * r149 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
06:48.15 | Torhal | evman182: It seems to me, at this point in time, Grid's latest build is your best bet |
06:48.16 | Repo | Add the item-buttons stuff Zhinjio accidentally removed back in |
06:48.19 | Repo | Remove some light duplication around headers |
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07:22.29 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03NevetsNeirbo * r97 commands.lua: Suppressed self spam on raid end. |
07:28.47 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5357 Core.lua: |
07:28.50 | Repo | Fix VerifyEnable. This should prevent the Keepers from enabling when they're dead. |
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07:43.09 | vhaarr | anyone got a full mimiron25 and freya transcript? |
07:47.57 | Arrowmaster | i knew something was wrong with VerifyEnable last year |
07:49.15 | vhaarr | nothing was wrong with it, the problem was that what I initially implemented it for is not what I tried using it for this time |
07:49.57 | vhaarr | previously, we'd have a table with .wipemobs on modules, so for example on Gothik in Naxx at lvl 60, the module would not disable itself as long as the adds were up |
07:50.25 | vhaarr | and the VerifyEnable was added so that we could implement whether or not to enable a boss addon on such bossmods, that had a load of .wipemobs or .enablemobs |
07:50.56 | vhaarr | it was not invoked on bosses where the module name matches the boss name straight away |
07:50.56 | Arrowmaster | the first usage of it was domo in MC |
07:51.21 | vhaarr | I don't think so |
07:51.26 | vhaarr | perhaps my memory is fucked though |
07:51.30 | Arrowmaster | i did a full MC right after 2.4 patch and the VerifyEnable for domo did not prevent it from enabling at rag |
07:51.42 | vhaarr | it will now |
07:52.06 | vhaarr | I implemented :VerifyEnable, and as far as I can remember it was not for MC, it was for either AQ40 or Naxx |
07:52.17 | vhaarr | but in any case it should be working as you'd expect now |
07:52.24 | Arrowmaster | well it was used for mc too |
07:52.30 | vhaarr | yes post-implement |
07:52.34 | vhaarr | but that's not the reason I made it |
07:52.40 | Arrowmaster | and i cant be certain but i thought it actually worked on domo before tbc |
07:53.28 | NivFreak | ugg I hate hotel wireless |
07:53.35 | NivFreak | I need to find a net cafe to raid at ;) |
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07:57.14 | Repo | 10transcriptor: 03Rabbit * r103 Transcriptor.lua: Fix Ace2 events (BigWigs_Message) tracking. |
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08:03.15 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5358 Ulduar/Mimiron.lua: |
08:03.18 | Repo | Add Leviathan, VX-001 and ACU to the enable trigger so we intercept the raid boss emotes. |
08:04.47 | NeoTron | well got some solid progress |
08:04.50 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r56 / (5 files in 1 directory): new version |
08:05.05 | NeoTron | made it to phase 4 and can do phase 1-2 reasonbly flawlessly |
08:05.13 | vhaarr | on mimiron? |
08:05.15 | NeoTron | yep |
08:05.27 | vhaarr | ye we did that last night, going back on sunday to finish off p4 |
08:05.44 | vhaarr | those assault bots in p3 hit like trucks >< |
08:05.50 | vhaarr | you kite them? |
08:05.56 | NeoTron | 10 wipes or so |
08:05.59 | NeoTron | yeah our boomkin does |
08:06.10 | vhaarr | I tanked them last night, but maybe we should kite as well |
08:06.10 | Wobin | how do boomkin kite? |
08:06.14 | NeoTron | by dpsing |
08:06.23 | vhaarr | boomkins do tons of threat |
08:06.24 | Wobin | then running around like a headless chicken? =) |
08:06.25 | NeoTron | how can you tank those, they hit for like 40k? |
08:06.33 | vhaarr | ye I know, I have insane avoidance |
08:06.36 | NeoTron | Wobin: three DK's makes them rather slow |
08:06.41 | vhaarr | they hit me roughly 1 time per mob before they die |
08:06.46 | NeoTron | and rogues for stuns and stuff |
08:06.53 | Wobin | oo. no diminishing returns for chains of ice, eh? |
08:07.06 | vhaarr | it's pve, most things don't diminish |
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08:07.27 | NeoTron | right |
08:07.36 | NeoTron | fun as heck fight though |
08:07.41 | vhaarr | indeed I love it |
08:07.50 | NeoTron | like Auriaya - that fight is... sort of fun but the pull isn't :P |
08:07.56 | NeoTron | the trash is the win |
08:08.17 | daev | The tram to mimiron is awesome alone. |
08:08.22 | NeoTron | only thing I don't like is the nuke on melee |
08:08.25 | NeoTron | I can't see it at all |
08:08.32 | NeoTron | so it's sort of random luck if I survive or not |
08:08.43 | NeoTron | melee + color blind => bad combo |
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08:09.31 | NeoTron | so... |
08:09.33 | NeoTron | Heroic: I'll Take You All On |
08:09.35 | NeoTron | Defeat Thorim, the Ancient Rune Giant and the Rune Colossus on Heroic Difficulty. |
08:09.43 | NeoTron | how can you do that fight without doing that achievement?! |
08:09.53 | NeoTron | aren't they sort of on the way to "free" thorim to be fought? |
08:10.10 | vhaarr | NeoTron: you must be in the tunnel |
08:10.14 | vhaarr | to get credit |
08:10.34 | vhaarr | so basically if you have melee in the arena each kill, they'll never get the achievement |
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08:15.06 | nevcairiel | i think our melees got it |
08:16.22 | vhaarr | ours didn't |
08:16.27 | Wobin | NeoTron: damn, is it just the colour combination that you can't discern? |
08:16.32 | vhaarr | only people in hallway got it |
08:17.22 | vhaarr | grrr gief freya+mimiron logs |
08:17.29 | vhaarr | s/logs/transcripts/ |
08:20.19 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: can you add Eonar's Gift to babbleboss, it's the tree in the Freya encounter |
08:20.45 | vhaarr | and the elders |
08:21.04 | vhaarr | Elder Stonebark, Elder Ironbranch and Elder Brightleaf |
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08:24.57 | nevcairiel | sure |
08:25.12 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i have a mimiron log up to p4, i didnt log our kill :( |
08:25.29 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: cool can I see it? |
08:25.46 | vhaarr | although I need p4 as well |
08:26.18 | nevcairiel | well it has parts of p4 |
08:26.21 | nevcairiel | until we wiped |
08:26.26 | vhaarr | nice |
08:26.45 | nevcairiel | you really have to try hard to wipe in p3 =P |
08:26.55 | nevcairiel | so boring phase |
08:27.04 | vhaarr | ye :p |
08:27.18 | Wobin | nevcairiel: I know certain raiders that will go that extra mile =P |
08:27.20 | vhaarr | not for us though since I tank the big bots :p |
08:27.34 | nevcairiel | you tank the bots? |
08:27.36 | nevcairiel | why? |
08:27.44 | nevcairiel | http://nevcairiel.net/Mimiron3.zip |
08:27.48 | quiesense | for fun |
08:27.52 | vhaarr | ^^ |
08:28.06 | nevcairiel | kite, slow, stun, root, no need for tanking :) |
08:28.11 | Wobin | cause otherwise it's boring =) |
08:29.01 | Wobin | =\ It takes so long to copy WoW over the network =\ |
08:29.38 | quiesense | get a faster network =/ |
08:29.42 | Wobin | fail 10/100 =( |
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08:32.39 | NeoTron | vhaarr: but.. I wasn't in the tunnel |
08:32.49 | vhaarr | and you got it? |
08:32.50 | NeoTron | vhaarr: I was in the arena... |
08:33.00 | nevcairiel | I think everyone gets it |
08:33.06 | vhaarr | not for us |
08:33.08 | NeoTron | [b]Changes in r57:[/b][list][*]Fixed an issue with autopassing on bids related to new items not previously seen by the players client. |
08:33.11 | NeoTron | oops |
08:33.16 | NeoTron | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Kilrogg&cn=Morasia&gn=Surprise+Robit |
08:34.14 | Wobin | what's a Robit? |
08:34.14 | nevcairiel | our melees got it too |
08:34.30 | NeoTron | a mechanical relative to Dargons |
08:34.44 | nevcairiel | whats a Dargon? |
08:35.00 | NeoTron | so imagine sneaking around in BT. you've just killed mother shahraz for the first time |
08:35.01 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: can you remember if you had a laser barrage in p4 in this log? |
08:35.11 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I'm guessing that's what wiped you |
08:35.11 | nevcairiel | probably did |
08:35.11 | NeoTron | walking up the stairs, killing robits.. then SURPRISE ROBIT comes around the corner |
08:35.16 | nevcairiel | ya :P |
08:35.23 | vhaarr | but I can't find it in the log >< |
08:35.38 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r57 / (3 files in 1 directory): new version |
08:35.51 | Wobin | Kind of like a Ruptor then |
08:36.09 | Wobin | Except all Ruptors are Surprise Ruptors |
08:36.58 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: for some arcane reason it didnt record the channel start events for the barrage |
08:37.01 | nevcairiel | but the warning worked fine |
08:37.08 | vhaarr | in p2 you mean? |
08:37.09 | vhaarr | or p4 |
08:37.33 | nevcairiel | i don't see any channel start for it, so must've been bugged somehow |
08:37.36 | nevcairiel | it worked fine, though |
08:37.40 | vhaarr | grr |
08:37.54 | NeoTron | Wobin: indeed |
08:37.56 | quiesense | grr~ |
08:38.04 | Wobin | ~grr |
08:38.05 | purl | methinks grr is a sound that honeypea makes when she's patient, and should be angry or <honeypea> grr :) |
08:38.06 | NeoTron | it was a internal joke in our previous guild |
08:38.16 | NeoTron | I think it started in hyjal |
08:38.33 | NeoTron | when someone said "surprise gargoyles!" the first time we got the pack of gargs that spawns right above you |
08:38.34 | vhaarr | ah wait there it is |
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08:38.36 | vhaarr | "<569.1> [CLEU] SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS:0xF150008373021234:VX-001:2632:0x0000000000000000:nil:-2147483648:63414:Spinning Up:1:", -- [92250] |
08:38.39 | vhaarr | that's p4 |
08:39.02 | nevcairiel | ya |
08:39.03 | quiesense | or so you think! |
08:39.12 | vhaarr | then the warning should work fine indeed |
08:39.19 | nevcairiel | i have a shorter log with a p2 wipe |
08:39.23 | nevcairiel | where the casts show |
08:39.28 | vhaarr | but the UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START seems useless then |
08:39.36 | vhaarr | yeah because you have it targetted there |
08:39.40 | vhaarr | probably |
08:39.58 | nevcairiel | i don't usually target the boss |
08:40.18 | vhaarr | well it's weird because we don't get UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START in p4 |
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08:41.18 | nevcairiel | i don't think the warning ever failed once, though |
08:41.23 | nevcairiel | is it syncing? |
08:41.28 | vhaarr | no |
08:41.36 | vhaarr | it's CLEU, shouldn't need syncinc |
08:41.57 | nevcairiel | the laster itself uses the channel_start |
08:41.59 | vhaarr | UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START could sync though, perhaps SOMEONE gets it in p4 |
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08:42.18 | nevcairiel | i'm not sure if i got the bar .. or just the warning.. |
08:42.18 | nevcairiel | hm |
08:42.44 | vhaarr | I fixed ace2 events for Transcriptor now, so next transcript we can see it |
08:42.56 | NeoTron | I wish that the nuke was warnable |
08:43.02 | vhaarr | rockets? |
08:43.07 | nevcairiel | ya |
08:43.07 | NeoTron | yeah |
08:43.10 | NeoTron | like standing in it |
08:43.15 | NeoTron | because for melee that is just bad |
08:43.24 | nevcairiel | you get a spellcast success if you're targeting it, iirc |
08:43.29 | nevcairiel | but not in CLEU |
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08:43.38 | nevcairiel | it sucks |
08:43.39 | vhaarr | yes you do, but then you have like 1.5 seconds to move |
08:43.41 | NeoTron | but it doesn't tell you if you're standing in it |
08:43.49 | vhaarr | the ground effect is present pre-launch |
08:43.54 | NeoTron | I don't know if I even once successfully saw it |
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08:44.14 | NeoTron | as I mentioned above, I'm color blind too + melee dps so it adds up to a rather hard to see combo |
08:44.34 | nevcairiel | we just announce when the rocket starts, so everyone just moves around a bit and pays attention to the ground |
08:44.43 | NeoTron | that is one idea |
08:44.45 | nevcairiel | just by looking at the bots back, and see when its glows |
08:44.49 | vhaarr | same here |
08:45.45 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: what positioning do you use in p4? |
08:45.53 | vhaarr | we use p2 positions currently |
08:45.54 | nevcairiel | same as 2 |
08:45.55 | NeoTron | problem them for melee... |
08:45.56 | nevcairiel | more or less |
08:45.56 | vhaarr | ye |
08:45.59 | NeoTron | they might move into the nuke then |
08:46.12 | nevcairiel | well of course you look before you move :P |
08:46.19 | NeoTron | problem still |
08:46.22 | NeoTron | I don't see the target |
08:46.22 | nevcairiel | if the mark is on empty ground, you should be able to see it |
08:46.30 | NeoTron | maybe |
08:46.34 | NeoTron | I don't know how it looks like |
08:46.36 | nevcairiel | if its directly below the melees, i can understand not seeing it |
08:46.40 | vhaarr | NeoTron: also have the melee spread out all around the boss in p4, not just behind, and you can have a paladin run and nuke all the mines with his shield up |
08:46.51 | nevcairiel | heh |
08:47.09 | vhaarr | our tankadin doesn't have gear for offspec so that's what he does in p1 and 4 :p |
08:48.09 | thul | hmm, are honor-pvp gear worth getting? |
08:48.52 | NeoTron | well we're going back sunday |
08:48.55 | NeoTron | see if we can't kill him |
08:49.04 | NeoTron | think we can because we made huge strides today |
08:49.23 | NeoTron | so Freya = 2 wipes, then kill. Thorim = 1 wipe, then kill |
08:49.34 | NeoTron | Auriaya => like 20-30 wipes at least? :P |
08:50.01 | NeoTron | anyhow. sleep |
08:51.20 | thul | hmm, I need 280k honor |
08:56.52 | Fisker- | baws neon |
08:56.56 | Fisker- | baws NeoTron |
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09:10.22 | thul | test question: your opponents in ab have left the AB and are far up one of the raods, your ally is working on the flag, you are a stealther and can sap opponents, one of the opponents are going towards the guy that is capping GM.. what do you do.. a) sap the guy so the flag will get capped or b) go the other way, and wait for him to attack the capper |
09:10.28 | thul | wtf |
09:10.30 | thul | WHY ARE PEOPLE STUPID |
09:15.09 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5359 Ulduar (3 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: koKR Update |
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09:22.47 | Adirelle|work | hi there |
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09:26.48 | theoddone33 | is there a current favorite among gearset switchers? |
09:31.11 | kbsd | <3 closetgnome |
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09:37.28 | ThiefMaster | hi |
09:37.56 | ThiefMaster | anyone knows if there's an addon which automatically inspects all raid members which are inspectable (i.e. not too far away) and checks them for blue/green items and similar crap? |
09:38.21 | Adirelle|work | is there someone familiar with aguf here ? |
09:38.38 | Repo | 10grid: 03Greltok * r1190 / (3 files in 1 directory): Changes to class colors now update immediately. |
09:38.41 | Repo | Added option to reset class colors. |
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09:46.39 | SunTsu | ThiefMaster: Fubar_GearRating does something like that, it inspects and sort of calculates a medium ilevel, giving maluses for greens and blues |
09:49.13 | Adirelle|work | is anyone aware of a way to display unitframes using Blizzard raid MT status ? |
09:49.13 | ThiefMaster | seems to be pretty outdated |
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09:49.52 | ThiefMaster | ah, apropos unitframe: it would be _great_ if you could set your own ora mt targets locally without having 'A' or get xperl etc use player targets additional to MT targets |
09:50.11 | ThiefMaster | it's pretty annoying if you have to ask for A if you want xperl mt targets and the raid leader doesn't use ora |
09:51.32 | Adirelle|work | actually I'm wondering if I could have aguf display MT unitframes |
09:51.33 | SunTsu | ThiefMaster: But it still works, and if it breaks you know you have somebody with heirloom in the raid :> |
09:51.44 | Adirelle|work | (same with arena unit too) |
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09:52.21 | SunTsu | ThiefMaster: oRA3 is going to use Blizz' MTs, I heard, oRA2 is merely maintained |
09:52.43 | ThiefMaster | same problem: without A/lead i can't set them |
09:52.48 | Fisker- | is oRA3 usable yet? :3 |
09:53.08 | SunTsu | Never tried it |
09:53.38 | ThiefMaster | and i guess the problem with blizz' MT s will be that they probably will be in group or random order |
09:53.46 | SunTsu | ThiefMaster: oRA2 allows you to set player targets, BTW |
09:53.54 | ThiefMaster | yeah, but xperl doesn't recognise them |
09:54.02 | ThiefMaster | and the xperl mt targets are much nicer than the ora ones |
09:54.04 | Adirelle|work | ThiefMaster: it is easier to ask your RL to set up Blizzard MT than asking him/her to install oRA2 to do it... |
09:54.08 | Zeksie | because of the ordering problem. |
09:54.20 | Zeksie | it's a bad implementantion |
09:54.33 | ThiefMaster | well in my raid i usually get A for it, but that doesn't apply for $twinkraid_of_some_random_guild |
09:54.41 | SunTsu | ThiefMaster: Just do your best to bother Zeksie for it ;) |
09:55.02 | Zeksie | i know it needs doing.. but it's gonna be a pain.. :| |
09:55.03 | Fisker- | Tried shit Zeksie ? |
09:55.15 | Adirelle|work | Zeksie: I'd prefer unordered MT frames than no MT frames at all |
09:55.45 | Zeksie | well. could get it to read the blizz ones. not much problem there. it's the player target's I don't have time for atm |
09:56.13 | Zeksie | how about i do it today. wil that make ppl happy ;) |
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09:57.26 | Fisker- | wanna make out thul ? |
09:57.28 | ThiefMaster | sounds great ;) it will be configurable though, right? (what happens if both targets are set) |
09:58.10 | ThiefMaster | i think "use ora if set, use blizzard if not" or "use ora if set and merge in blizzard" would be the best solutions |
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09:58.23 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r58 / (4 files in 1 directory): new version |
10:00.12 | Zeksie | ThiefMaster: yeh, will come up with something |
10:02.41 | ThiefMaster | is the spec detection (still= broken btw? i noticed it showing the primary(?) spec for someone who was using his secondary spec |
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10:07.30 | thul | Fisker-: of course |
10:07.38 | thul | Fisker-: i got my wow back on, so now we can wow eachother |
10:07.39 | thul | analy |
10:08.44 | Elkano | is it possible to load files from other addon directorys in your toc? |
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10:10.31 | Adirelle|work | ../OtherAddon/file.lua |
10:10.36 | Adirelle|work | I think |
10:12.51 | Zeksie | ThiefMaster: specs are cached for a time, weak table. so it's possible you just re-viewed then soon after they changed. |
10:13.05 | ThiefMaster | ah |
10:13.35 | Elkano | just trying to get MyMedia safe wrt updaters |
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10:14.02 | ThiefMaster | isn't there a combat log event (spell_cast_success for the respec spell) which could be used to clear that cache? |
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10:16.31 | Zeksie | yeh there is |
10:16.53 | Zeksie | can only do one thing at a time tho.. MT list atm. so shush. don't distract ;) |
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10:17.35 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r5360 Naxxramas (14 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: ruRU update (fix typos) |
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10:25.35 | ThiefMaster | Message: [string "*:OnLoad"] line 4: attempt to call global 'XPerl_Player_SetTotems' (a nil value) |
10:25.53 | Zeksie | oop. |
10:25.58 | ThiefMaster | when clicking (unchecking) the "enable" checkbox for the totems |
10:26.02 | Zeksie | k |
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10:57.12 | SunTsu | Losing my talent points over and over again really pisses me off |
10:57.18 | thul | indeed |
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10:59.22 | SunTsu | Our raidleader yesterday lost her points, couldn't specc, because she hadn't any point available and had no 2nd specc, so she was real fucked |
11:00.51 | sb|work | haha he said "raidleader" and "she" :p |
11:01.18 | yoshimo | the word leader covers both sexes if im not mistaken ;) |
11:01.35 | SunTsu | sb|work: Yeah, right, raidleader and guild master |
11:01.40 | sb|work | thats not the point yoshimo :p |
11:02.22 | yoshimo | does a leader/guild master have tobe male? no it hasnt. |
11:02.36 | sb|work | hehe, nvm, just trolling :) |
11:02.46 | sb|work | <-- bored |
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11:16.01 | Zeksie | coded thing for MT targets, then it occured to me it'd be nice for it to assume the order of the tanks from the order that they were set.. so, gonna go rework it some. bit more complex, but should have the desired effect. |
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11:34.53 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie * r272 XPerl_RaidPets/XPerl_RaidPets.lua: |
11:34.56 | Repo | XPerl: Hopefully fixes problems with raid pets not showing up when you have the 'One Group Raid" party option enabled. |
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11:38.33 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie * r273 / (6 files in 4 directories): |
11:38.36 | Repo | XPerl: Added option for Blizzard MT Targets for raid helper. This will merge Blizzard defined MT targets with oRA defined ones. The order for the Blizzard ones will be the order that they are defined. Making the assumption that your Main MT is usually set first, followed by OTs. Also fixed issue with toggling totem frame option. |
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11:48.19 | yoshimo | pallypower complains : Improper translation exists. "PP_SYMBOL" is likely misspelled for locale deDE. but the translation in de.lua seems to be correct |
11:49.04 | nevcairiel | that means that PP_SYMBOL does not exist in the base locale |
11:49.15 | nevcairiel | so either the key is wrong, or it was removed |
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11:53.01 | Repo | Small change to give better user feedback on Auto Fill progress. |
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12:10.51 | Repo | 10xperl: 03StingerSoft * r274 XPerl_Options/localization.ruRU.lua: XPerl: ruRU update |
12:19.27 | Repo | 10grid: 03StingerSoft * r1191 GridLocale-ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
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12:40.11 | yoshimo | there was a change to the enus.locale of pallypower , the base locale |
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12:42.44 | ckknight | http://microsoft-internet-explorer.istotalbullshit.com/ |
12:43.20 | sztanpet | ohyes |
12:44.03 | ThiefMaster | "rightclick -> set focus" never works with xperl etc? |
12:44.18 | sztanpet | we should have a page dedicated to favorite ie buggs |
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12:48.08 | Funkeh` | actually, ie8 is pretty fucking awesome security wise |
12:48.14 | Funkeh` | virus checking of files is sweet |
12:48.24 | Funkeh` | not that I would use it |
12:48.36 | Funkeh` | but it's nice to know all the retards in the world will be that much more secure |
12:49.25 | nevcairiel | firefox has been scanning files for ever |
12:49.26 | sztanpet | yea, at least thats a plus |
12:49.37 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, no it has not |
12:49.51 | Funkeh` | not with an offsite virus checker |
12:50.04 | nevcairiel | obviously :P |
12:50.10 | Funkeh` | well |
12:50.11 | nevcairiel | but i'm pretty sure it can use windows defender too |
12:50.14 | Funkeh` | if you have an av |
12:50.15 | nevcairiel | like IE8 |
12:50.20 | Funkeh` | it's like an extra barrier of defense |
12:51.01 | Funkeh` | yeah |
12:51.09 | Funkeh` | I think it uses the malicious removal tool mostly |
12:51.27 | Stanzilla | downloads Win7 RC1 |
12:52.12 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, but if most people that use firefox and chrome etc are more "aware" of such threats |
12:52.18 | Funkeh` | it really only leaves the newbies using ie |
12:52.28 | Funkeh` | so it really should help drastically cut down infections |
12:53.03 | Funkeh` | unfortunately it's not on iwndows update until how long? few months? >.> |
12:53.16 | nevcairiel | too many people are still on IE6 |
12:53.23 | nevcairiel | so screw that false sense of improvement |
12:53.30 | Funkeh` | lol |
12:53.42 | Funkeh` | does w7 come with ie8 |
12:53.53 | nevcairiel | yes |
12:54.33 | sztanpet | and ie8 will only be a recommended update not a high priority one |
12:54.46 | sztanpet | so who knows how many people will upgrade |
12:55.01 | Funkeh` | I'm personally getting everyone that uses it to upgrade |
12:55.50 | sztanpet | i make my mother use chrome, so at least thats not an issue |
12:55.51 | sztanpet | :D |
12:56.41 | Funkeh` | I would never make anyone not technically minded use chrome |
12:56.57 | nevcairiel | I just shove firefox onto everyone |
12:57.04 | sztanpet | well your wrong, my mom uses it a lot easier then even ie |
12:57.08 | Funkeh` | yes, and firefox |
12:57.23 | sztanpet | she for example doesnt get why she needs to write what she wants to search for into the search bar |
12:58.10 | sztanpet | so that was a right decision for the 20minutes a month she spends in front of the computer anyway |
13:00.01 | Hirsute-Home | stanpet: regarding ie8. It shouldn't even be a recommended upgrade. The "recommended upgrade" should be "Uninstall IE" |
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13:02.49 | Beutju | how can I open the pvpframe? Seems as if PVPFrame:Show() doesn't work anymore |
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13:05.52 | Funkeh` | I don't think it's called pvpframe |
13:12.49 | Beutju | it was; but maybe there is a new name - but where can I get it from? |
13:13.33 | yoshimo | by using the devtools id say. this addon rips everything apart and prints detailed information |
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13:16.29 | Beutju | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 this? I'll give it a try |
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13:24.15 | yoshimo | <PROTECTED> |
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13:36.18 | Beutju | PVPParentFrame now |
13:36.44 | Beutju | thx |
13:37.00 | yoshimo | you're welcome |
13:37.32 | thul | hey ho, did you guys miss me ? |
13:38.21 | nevcairiel | no :( |
13:38.45 | thul | :-( |
13:38.47 | thul | i know you did nevcairiel |
13:38.49 | thul | you just don't want to admit it :-P |
13:40.42 | steev | i missed your mom, does that count? |
13:41.20 | steev | wtf is with all the rolling restarts |
13:41.30 | Megalon | i didn't miss, scored her right in the face! |
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13:48.35 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is anyone use luaeclipse for wow addon development? |
13:49.15 | Daemona | pokes Antiarc with a stick. |
13:49.36 | Nomad_Wanderer | Antiarc does? |
13:49.54 | Daemona | i doubt it |
13:50.04 | Daemona | Antiarc are you still maintaining Deadened? |
13:51.04 | Grum | someone said a bad word in here ... ah .. eclipse ... |
13:51.31 | Daemona | ~luaeclipse |
13:51.37 | Daemona | cant be that bad :X |
13:51.51 | yoshimo | daemona, do we need a replacement for quartz first? ;) |
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13:52.13 | Daemona | my quartz is fine, whats wrong with yours? |
13:52.14 | Fisker- | hai |
13:52.39 | pentium166 | generic-hostname.arrownet.dk, very nice |
13:52.50 | Nomad_Wanderer | eclipse isnt a bad word :) |
13:53.06 | Grum | it is |
13:53.18 | Nomad_Wanderer | why do you think that? |
13:54.18 | Nomad_Wanderer | I would agree that its overkill for addon development, especially without mylyn.. but what editor/ide do you recommend? Sed? |
13:54.47 | Grum | ide's are severely overrated |
13:54.50 | Grum | vim > * :p |
13:55.04 | yoshimo | well daemona, i got the impression while reading the quartz thread |
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13:56.18 | Nomad_Wanderer | gvim imo |
13:58.40 | haste | vim > * |
14:01.03 | Grum | gvim means you are on windows, so yes its the best alternative =D |
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14:06.50 | Xinhuan | any horde player have free time? i would like to know how many locations the horde WG flight path links to |
14:07.17 | Ackis | sure |
14:07.23 | Ackis | you have to give me a cookie though |
14:07.49 | Ackis | let me just update my spyware with the curse client then I'll log in |
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14:08.55 | Ackis | which FP Xinhuan? |
14:09.03 | Xinhuan | wintergrasp |
14:09.32 | sztanpet | Xinhuan seemingly it only links to dalaran, flying there now to make sure |
14:09.33 | Ackis | how many connections only? do you need to know the conenctions themselves? |
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14:09.42 | Xinhuan | yes to both |
14:09.48 | Pneumatus | Ackis, are the new 3.1 glyphs in ARL yet? |
14:10.04 | Ackis | Pneumatus: yes |
14:10.13 | Ackis | Xinhuan: 5 connetions |
14:10.22 | Pneumatus | just in alphas, or in an RC? |
14:10.36 | Xinhuan | which 5 |
14:12.07 | Ackis | Xinhuan: river's heart, bor'gorok outpost (boring tundra), dalaran, agmars hammer (dragonblight), and one in ice crown I can't make out |
14:12.12 | Ackis | Pneumatus: latest RC has it |
14:12.21 | sztanpet | nah its more then that |
14:12.37 | Xinhuan | ackis, the WG horde flight point only goes to 1 location in icecrown? |
14:12.42 | Xinhuan | the alliance one goes to 3 |
14:13.22 | sztanpet | shadow vault; deaths rise; rivers heart; taunka le; agmars hammer; dalaran; crusaders pinnacle |
14:13.28 | Ackis | sztanpet: you sure? |
14:13.32 | sztanpet | absolutely |
14:14.46 | Ackis | wwwwww |
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14:15.04 | Xinhuan | sztanpet, can you check if all those places can fly into WG too? |
14:15.18 | sztanpet | sure, i can check a few |
14:15.21 | sztanpet | sec |
14:15.46 | sztanpet | we're about to loose wg tho |
14:17.00 | sztanpet | yes, all those places can fly into wg too |
14:17.20 | sztanpet | or at least thats what i can see from to fp-s |
14:19.16 | Xinhuan | i think they added a flight path between death rise and crusader pinnacle too |
14:19.16 | Grum | can't you harvest that data from somewhere? |
14:19.16 | Xinhuan | such as? |
14:19.20 | Grum | dunno, they get the data to draw the lines |
14:19.31 | Daemona | ~char |
14:20.27 | sztanpet | they might have, dont got any fps in that area |
14:22.48 | yoshimo | when & how does bigwigs check wether a raidmember has it installed? my raid leader has a recent version and still shows up as missing bigwigs |
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14:58.58 | maqr | i wonder why tomtom isn't on curse |
14:59.04 | jnwhiteh | it is |
14:59.09 | jnwhiteh | and it wasn't because i didn't have it there. |
14:59.39 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: I think I may have found a legit "bug" with tomtom |
14:59.55 | jnwhiteh | alright |
15:00.05 | Ackis | typing /tomtom just brings up the options, it doesn't go directly to the tomtom entry |
15:00.23 | jnwhiteh | goes to the entry for me. |
15:01.01 | Ackis | orly? |
15:01.32 | thul | ORLY?! |
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15:01.57 | Ackis | yah just did it again after a /rl, typing it the first time brings up the game options |
15:02.06 | Ackis | tying it the second time brings up addons |
15:02.24 | Ackis | and no change on the third time |
15:04.13 | jnwhiteh | I can't reproduce this. |
15:04.18 | jnwhiteh | it always opens to TomTom for me. |
15:04.21 | Ackis | obviously this is game breaking jnwhiteh, and I cannot use tomtom because of it... i'm uninstalling it and boycotting wowi or something lawls |
15:04.26 | jnwhiteh | i blame something you are running. |
15:04.28 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: that's reallyweird |
15:04.38 | Ackis | yah obviously an interaction |
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15:04.42 | Repo | 10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r181 modules/SkadaPower (3 files in 1 directory): Added a mana gain mode. |
15:04.45 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: you're being boycotted *right now* :O |
15:04.50 | phyber | Ackis: i've seen that, and it wasn't specific to tomtom. |
15:04.57 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: w00t |
15:05.19 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r271 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
15:05.22 | Repo | BadBoy: Now only scans official blizz custom channels(gen/trade/etc), should prevent odd problems with RPr's and their weird addons using chat channels for data communication. |
15:05.22 | Ackis | phyber: just odd since arl does it, tomtom doesn't |
15:06.04 | phyber | yup, most of my addons work fine too with it. i assume at some point, one of them screws something up while loading. |
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15:06.35 | vrak | hmm, anyone got a good suggestion for a skillet-like replacement? |
15:06.38 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r102 / (2 files in 2 directories): Ulduar encounter DB update |
15:06.50 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r103 Tactics/Tactics-enUS.lua: Tactics update |
15:06.59 | Stanzilla | Ackis: that's a blizz "bug" |
15:07.19 | Stanzilla | if you have many addons using the interface options panel so it would have to scroll down to tomtom, it doesn' |
15:07.20 | Stanzilla | t |
15:07.29 | Ackis | Stanzilla: *nod* ok, I've never experienced it before |
15:07.33 | phyber | classy. |
15:07.53 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v3.3.0.0 * r272 : Tagging as v3.3.0.0 |
15:08.08 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r104 HISTORY.txt: Updated release notes for release 1.0.0 |
15:08.21 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: ok I was pulling your leg, I didn't find a bug in tomtom, other than it doesn't work in wrath |
15:08.59 | maqr | Ackis: tomtom works well for me |
15:09.05 | Funkeh` | zomg liek update already lulz |
15:09.07 | maqr | Ackis: also, hey, you're that recipes guy :P |
15:09.09 | Ackis | (inside joke) |
15:09.14 | Ackis | maqr: I didn't do it! :( |
15:11.43 | maqr | say i wanted tomtom to play a sound when i get within X yards of wherever i'm going, what would be the best way for me to go about that? |
15:11.52 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 041.0.0 * r105 : Tagging as 1.0.0 |
15:11.53 | jnwhiteh | add a callback to the callback table. |
15:12.09 | maqr | do i do that with a new addon, or do i have to patch tomtom? |
15:12.39 | jnwhiteh | probably have to alter TomTOm |
15:12.41 | jnwhiteh | but I'd have to look |
15:13.05 | maqr | jnwhiteh: if i did it right, do you accept user patches? :) |
15:13.12 | jnwhiteh | if they don't suck |
15:13.13 | jnwhiteh | :P |
15:13.17 | maqr | sweet |
15:14.40 | Ackis | lol |
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15:21.56 | Ackis | @project broker-item-list |
15:21.57 | Repo | Ackis: No project found that matches 'broker-item-list' |
15:23.28 | Elkano | hmm, ackis, that reminds me of my ItemListFu ^^ |
15:23.41 | Ackis | it is I think |
15:25.11 | Elkano | I doubt it |
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15:28.36 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Ackis * r24 Broker_Itemlist.toc: |
15:28.39 | Repo | Make it so you can use nolibs and fix the toc so it loads the proper libraries. |
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15:33.10 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r5361-release * r5361 : Tagging as r5361-release |
15:33.17 | Ackis | rawrrrrrz |
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15:39.59 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
15:41.15 | Repo | 10reflux: 03kagaro 041.6 * r29 : Tagging as 1.6 |
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15:42.17 | Hjalte | Does anyone know if hotmail has a limit to the size of attachments of incoming mails? |
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15:45.14 | Ackis | ~framexml |
15:45.15 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
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15:56.05 | NeoTron | jnwhiteh: the reason /tomtom doesn't go to the right entry is that that feature only works if tomtom (or whatever addon) is on the currently displayed list of addons |
15:56.13 | NeoTron | jnwhiteh: Blizzard bug... |
15:56.22 | jnwhiteh | okay |
15:59.20 | durcyn | yeah, InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory assumes the frame you want to display is visible, otherwise it silently fails, how cool is that |
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16:02.44 | Repo | 10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r19 / (15 files in 15 directories): |
16:02.47 | Repo | start cleaning up module instantiation, still not functional |
16:04.23 | Dark_Elf | wonders how much PopCapGames paid Blizzard to get there addons into wow |
16:05.14 | Arrowmaster | $0 |
16:06.13 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1724 / (4 files in 3 directories): |
16:06.15 | Repo | Change seasonal to world events, and remove all the localizations for them. Use the achievement panel names instead. |
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16:07.53 | Fisker- | hoho |
16:07.55 | Fisker- | i'm back |
16:08.11 | Gnarfoz | /care |
16:08.18 | Fisker- | nice |
16:08.26 | Fisker- | Didn't think anyone would care |
16:08.32 | Fisker- | hugs Gnarfoz |
16:09.07 | Gnarfoz | ~kiss Fisker- |
16:09.09 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Zarhan a big kiss on the hand |
16:09.20 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
16:09.21 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Addybot a big kiss on the lips |
16:09.21 | Gnarfoz | oy vey! :O |
16:09.28 | Gnarfoz | even the bots now. |
16:09.35 | Adys | gtfo Fisker- :( |
16:09.49 | Fisker- | blame Gnarfoz |
16:09.58 | Gnarfoz | ~blame Fisker- |
16:09.58 | purl | ACTION blames Fisker- (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
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16:11.03 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r12 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Update interface so we don't appear out of date for 3.1 |
16:12.40 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r13 v0.3/: Tagging as v0.3 |
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16:32.39 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1725 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: Fix ticket 500 |
16:36.54 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1726 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: Fix a LW flag pattern |
16:37.34 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r62 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
16:37.37 | Repo | ZOMGBuffs: Fixed an issue with the popup list sometimes getting an action blocked (if new members were created since you last saw it and you attempt to open it in combat). Added a quick hack fix for the sneak change to Mana Spring Totem now overwriting Blessing of Wisdom, it simply won't ask you to buff anyone with mana spring for the moment. Until of course, Blizzard realises the mistake and does the same as they did for Battleshout/BoM. |
16:42.03 | Gnarfoz | Zeksie: you're late? that was hotfixed already, at least that's what they said |
16:42.22 | Gnarfoz | :> |
16:42.31 | Zeksie | are you sure.. it was happening to us just last nite. |
16:44.12 | Trela_ | "Greater Blessing of Wisdom and Mana Spring Totem will no longer stack as intended." |
16:44.16 | Trela_ | Fixed yesterday. |
16:44.19 | Gnarfoz | --^ |
16:44.27 | Fisker- | that's just so they won't stack |
16:44.30 | Gnarfoz | "yesterday" depending on server restart since then |
16:44.30 | Zeksie | yes.. and yesterday mana spring was overwriting wisdom |
16:44.43 | Fisker- | overwriting != stacking |
16:44.47 | Zeksie | which still makes the statement true |
16:44.56 | Gnarfoz | I'll just check ingame ;) |
16:44.56 | Trela_ | Oohhhhhh. |
16:45.01 | Trela_ | checks brain. |
16:45.02 | Zeksie | if someone could. that'd be great |
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16:45.29 | Trela_ | Over writing BoW with MST would be silly since BoW is more "permanent". |
16:45.38 | Zeksie | yep |
16:45.45 | Zeksie | same with the BS/BoM episode. |
16:45.50 | Zeksie | think they'd learn.. |
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16:46.10 | Fisker- | mst and battle shout should be just as permanent :E |
16:46.17 | sb|work | hmmm vhaarr, are you going to implement ora3 mt targets anytime soon? |
16:46.28 | Zeksie | battle shout aura? yes.. |
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16:47.22 | Trela_ | MST is a shorter duration, can be removed by running out of range, or removed by Astral Recall. BoW is removed by death or right click, both of which is not the typical action of a player. :P |
16:47.30 | Trela_ | Damn it. |
16:47.33 | Trela_ | misreads again. |
16:47.37 | Trela_ | Sorry Mister Fisker. |
16:47.58 | Trela_ | My boss left today for a new job. ;-; |
16:48.00 | Trela_ | wipes eyes. |
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16:54.33 | Repo | 10ora3: 03StingerSoft * r140 locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
16:54.50 | Hell-Razor | does anybody know what you have to add to your config.wtf for wow to always load target damage under the combat text section |
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16:59.02 | sb|work | ffs |
16:59.04 | Gnarfoz | Hell-Razor: nothing, you just have to disable whatever addon (or whatever addon's option, it probably has one to disable this behaviour) unchecks it |
16:59.10 | sb|work | some addon update just crashed my whisper stuff |
16:59.17 | sb|work | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2491: attempt to concatenate local 'pflag' (a nil value): |
16:59.20 | sb|work | :/ |
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17:02.45 | durcyn | sb|work: headcount's filters are broken |
17:03.14 | durcyn | if you're using that |
17:04.14 | Hjalte | I'm using Headcount as well. sb, you having trouble with just normal whispers? |
17:04.49 | Hell-Razor | Gnarfoz, it just wont save |
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17:05.21 | Repo | 10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r20 / (34 files in 16 directories): do away with LOD nonsense for the time being |
17:05.39 | Gnarfoz | Hell-Razor: uhm, again |
17:05.53 | sb|work | durcyn: yup |
17:05.54 | Gnarfoz | Hell-Razor: that's not default UI behaviour... does this happen with no addons enabled? |
17:05.58 | sb|work | Hjalte: yup |
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17:06.27 | nevcairiel | durcyn: time being? keep it gone imho =P |
17:06.30 | durcyn | sb|work: gimme a sec and i'll fix it, kagaro's got the normal event handlers and the filters going through the same function for some bizarre reason |
17:07.11 | durcyn | oh, nevermind |
17:07.13 | durcyn | either way, sec |
17:07.34 | Gnarfoz | so, does anyone know why the hell WoW's performance was *really* good in 3.1 and went back to sluggish with 3.1.1? |
17:08.05 | Gnarfoz | talking about FPS, pretty globally. Dalaran, 25man raids, everything :\ |
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17:08.25 | Hell-Razor | Gnarfoz, i figured it out...you were rite something was disabled it |
17:08.46 | dodga | "What? The game is playable now? We cannot allow this! Insert random stuff makes it unplayable!" |
17:08.59 | Gnarfoz | dodga: really kind of felt that way |
17:09.09 | nevcairiel | i didnt notice any change |
17:09.26 | dodga | i didn't really play a lot |
17:09.30 | ArrowmasterClass | nevcairiel: so imho AceHook-3.0 needs a new feature for the new hoops that need jumping through because of the xml change |
17:09.32 | dodga | lately, that is.. |
17:09.46 | nevcairiel | ArrowmasterClass: why? there is already HookScript |
17:10.07 | ArrowmasterClass | because hookscript isnt good enough |
17:10.11 | nevcairiel | sure it is |
17:10.15 | ArrowmasterClass | nope |
17:10.18 | dodga | But yesterday, after patching, after logging in my WoW was frozen for like 2-3 minutes in dalaran and then I got disconnected. Relogged, frozen again for like 1 min, then everything was normal.. |
17:10.34 | durcyn | hrm, looks like seppyk locked the repo |
17:10.39 | ArrowmasterClass | nevcairiel: right now handynotes is broken because it uses HookScript |
17:10.49 | nevcairiel | thats not my problem |
17:10.51 | nevcairiel | blame Xinhuan |
17:11.01 | Hjalte | dodga: That could be the same errors I had with my cache being cleared. |
17:11.08 | ArrowmasterClass | you have to hook the global and the script |
17:11.24 | durcyn | sb|work: anyway, go into HeadCount.lua and comment out the 'return false,...' lines in the CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_FILTER and CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM_FILTER functions |
17:11.31 | ArrowmasterClass | just hooking the script will causes issues |
17:11.45 | nevcairiel | that general assertion isnt true |
17:11.50 | durcyn | ~seen kagaro |
17:11.53 | purl | kagaro <n=kagaro@cpe-098-026-067-218.nc.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 5h 20m 48s ago, saying: 'we were'. |
17:11.54 | dodga | Hjalte: Yeah, I got some "Unknown item: <some id>" messages in ChatFrame1, but don't know which addon caused that... it was gone after I relogged though :D |
17:11.54 | nevcairiel | it totally depends on the use |
17:12.21 | Hjalte | dodga: That could be one of Tekkubs addons, I've seem them print text like that. |
17:12.22 | ArrowmasterClass | and totally requires greping the framexml every single patch to know if you need to update it |
17:12.36 | nevcairiel | thats what hook do to you |
17:12.37 | nevcairiel | always |
17:12.40 | Hjalte | dodga: I fixed it with some help from blizzard and a link from Fisker-. |
17:12.42 | nevcairiel | they could change arguments |
17:12.48 | nevcairiel | or other silly stuff |
17:13.13 | dodga | I see |
17:13.26 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I did notice a change... as did a guildie of mine who's laptop isn't that fast... he went from 8fps or something in 25man trash fights to something playable like 18fps, and now is back to 8fps :P |
17:13.28 | sb|work | durcyn: i disabled the addon for now, should do it |
17:13.30 | sb|work | thank you |
17:13.37 | Gnarfoz | nevermind that he's topping damage meters even with that low fps ;O |
17:13.44 | nevcairiel | heh |
17:14.15 | Trela_ | Any one have any idea what I am doing wrong here? Error: http://paste.wowace.com/533/ - Code: http://paste.wowace.com/534/ I set it to false and it still gives me an issue. |
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17:14.45 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: if you hook a blizzard function, you always need to check the framexml for implications and changes in patches, or your addon is just waiting for issues |
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17:15.44 | nevcairiel | Trela_: its the same error with false? |
17:15.56 | nevcairiel | that doesnt even make sense |
17:15.57 | Trela_ | Yes, even with putting a blank function. |
17:16.14 | nevcairiel | leave it out completly? |
17:16.19 | nevcairiel | not like a select needs a validate |
17:16.24 | nevcairiel | because there is no user input |
17:16.31 | nevcairiel | well, no direct user input |
17:16.33 | nevcairiel | just pre-selected |
17:16.44 | ArrowmasterClass | nevcairiel: so would you say the solution is to hook both the global and the script handlers anytime you hook default ui? |
17:16.54 | Trela_ | ClearFont.args.font.validate: expected a methodname, funcref or false, got 'table: 0x285c76e8' |
17:16.59 | Trela_ | Same thing for leaving it out. |
17:17.21 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: no, the solution depends on every case. I have some stuff where i only have to hook the script handler, actually i never had to hook both so far |
17:17.51 | ArrowmasterClass | nevcairiel: well i just see huge conflicts happening because of multiple addons hooking in different ways |
17:18.17 | nevcairiel | again, thats a general hooking issue, and if all addons use AceHook, no issue. |
17:18.37 | nevcairiel | Trela_: can't be |
17:18.54 | nevcairiel | Trela_: however, your select does lack a "values" member |
17:19.08 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1727 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
17:19.11 | Repo | - added new all/none options to armor and weapon filters |
17:19.14 | Repo | - (still need to remove some of the old all/none stuff) |
17:19.28 | Trela_ | It is possible it is completely borked and Ace3 is throwing a different error because of that. |
17:20.07 | nevcairiel | maybe it throws the wrong error because the values is missing, i'll check later |
17:20.23 | nevcairiel | have to buy grocerys for the weekend now, bbl |
17:20.28 | Trela_ | Have fun! |
17:21.53 | Gnarfoz | ArrowmasterClass: was that you who bricked (or so) his usb flash drive recently, trying to make it bootable? |
17:22.50 | ArrowmasterClass | i bricked one years ago |
17:22.55 | ArrowmasterClass | a 128mb i think |
17:23.01 | ArrowmasterClass | or 64mb |
17:23.05 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r14 / (5 files in 2 directories): - Added AceConfig-3.0 to the libs included. |
17:23.08 | Repo | - Characters can now be ignored, rather than just removed. Get rid of those bank alts or low level alts you don't care about. You can unignore a character from the menu on the ignored character for now. |
17:23.11 | Repo | - DB has been changed so that characters from both Alliance and Horde can be tracked from the same menu. |
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17:25.23 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1728 AckisRecipeList.lua: Fix drop down menus (Ticket 484) |
17:26.42 | Gnarfoz | ArrowmasterClass: hm. somebody recently talked about making one bootable, meh :\ |
17:28.23 | ArrowmasterClass | i was |
17:28.41 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1729 RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua: Fix hearty rhino filter flags |
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17:35.53 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1730 RecipeDB/ARL-FirstAid.lua: Update first aid trainers. |
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17:36.47 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r15 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Fix the unignore command |
17:36.50 | Repo | - Better tooltips for the menu describing what you can do with tradeskills, and why some may be grey. |
17:36.53 | Repo | - Tweaked the color of characters on the opposite faction. |
17:36.58 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.3 * r16 : Tagging as v0.3 |
17:38.33 | Gnarfoz | ArrowmasterClass: could you point me to whatever you read to do it? I was in a hurry and used some BartPE tools or whatever and now the flash drive I used is treated as an HDD :\ |
17:38.43 | Gnarfoz | ArrowmasterClass: trying to undo that and make it a flash drive again ^^ |
17:43.51 | Repo | 10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r21 / (50 files in 5 directories): reorganize directory structure a bit, nothing to see here |
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17:44.44 | ArrowmasterClass | Gnarfoz: i have no clue |
17:45.15 | ArrowmasterClass | Gnarfoz: if you have another flash drive try using dd to copy it |
17:45.35 | Trela_ | nevcairiel: When you get back. It was a bunch of fail in the coding. Ignore that error. :D |
17:52.51 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.3.1 * r17 : Tagging as v0.3.1 |
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17:58.52 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: so it appears the only german death string that's missing is Thorim (since I realy didn't need Mimiron) |
18:00.36 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r18 TradeskillMenu.lua: |
18:00.39 | Repo | - Linking a tradeskill via shift-click will now show the chat frame edit box instead of failing if it isn't visible. |
18:00.52 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.3.2 * r19 : Tagging as v0.3.2 |
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18:03.27 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1731 Docs/CHANGES.txt: Update changelog. |
18:03.28 | Wobin | NeoTron: German Death String sounds like a new style of music =P |
18:08.40 | Gnarfoz | ~lart wobin |
18:08.40 | purl | squishes wobin like a bug |
18:08.59 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: so? does this relate to the line 406 error? ^^ |
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18:14.16 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1732 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
18:14.19 | Repo | - removed code which was used for the old all/none options |
18:19.38 | dracula | ckknight: this small patch adds integration of FizzWidget FactionFriend to Dominos' XP/Rep bar: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/dominos/tickets/33-support-for-fizzwidget-faction-friend/ |
18:19.44 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r20 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Move the changelog to something a bit more user-friendly. |
18:19.45 | dracula | without breaking anything if you don't have it ;) |
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18:20.16 | nevcairiel | Why do you tell ckknight? :) |
18:20.30 | dracula | eh, good question |
18:20.58 | dracula | the Curse client confused me again ;) |
18:21.07 | dracula | it doesnt update the info panel initially |
18:21.25 | nevcairiel | too bad tuller isnt around now, though =) |
18:21.56 | dracula | then let me abuse my false highlight to ask ck if the Chinchilla Expander patch has already been added? :) |
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18:27.13 | Antiarc | Daemona: I do, yes, sorta |
18:27.22 | Antiarc | It works without any changes AFAIK |
18:27.26 | Antiarc | I haven't bumped the TOC, though |
18:27.36 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r21 / (2 files in 2 directories): - Some locale cleanup. |
18:27.56 | Daemona | i get massive amounts of errors in context with some castbar stuff in framexml |
18:28.17 | Antiarc | Oh, is it Deadened doing that |
18:28.18 | Antiarc | ? |
18:28.18 | Daemona | (might be due to quartz being outdated too perhaps?) |
18:28.24 | Antiarc | I get one on login, then never again |
18:28.48 | Daemona | i dont have it enabled cant give you a pastey due to raid now, but i will try to remember |
18:29.12 | nevcairiel | quartz alone works fine |
18:29.56 | Daemona | yup |
18:30.09 | Daemona | might be some quartz deadened interaction |
18:31.43 | Antiarc | Quick question: Anyone know what might be causing me to not see certain debuffs on enemy players? |
18:32.03 | Antiarc | In arena, I never ever see Mark of the Wild on enemies, either via Pitbull, EBB, or Quartz |
18:32.36 | Shefki | Well filtering I'd guess, but PB doesn't filter enemy debuffs by default. |
18:33.01 | Antiarc | I've got filtering off. It's happening in all three mods, which is what's bizarre. |
18:33.06 | Antiarc | It's very frustrating. |
18:33.29 | Shefki | Something hooking UnitAura but that's pretty bizarre. |
18:33.48 | Antiarc | That's all I can think but I can't find any instances of it. |
18:34.25 | Shefki | Tried making a macro to dump auras to chat and see if it's there? |
18:34.35 | Antiarc | No, I should do that |
18:34.39 | Antiarc | I know it's "there" - my partner can see it |
18:34.46 | Antiarc | I just can't find evidence of it in my UI |
18:34.53 | Antiarc | And I don't usually have a ton of debugging time in the arena :P |
18:35.07 | Shefki | Yeah I understand that. No idea why. |
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18:35.34 | rubik | I thought you played a rogue... you guys can't stun lock for like 3 minutes straight anymore? :P |
18:35.37 | Repo | 10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r22 / (4 files in 2 directories): more conversion work on base |
18:35.40 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r22 / (4 files in 2 directories): - First checkin of German and Russian translations. |
18:35.57 | Daemona | Antiarc get some people and go to nagrand in the open arena? ;) |
18:35.57 | Antiarc | What's stunlocking have to do with knowing who you're up against? :P |
18:36.11 | Antiarc | (and I'm playing a paladin alt now, and it's 1000x easier) |
18:36.42 | Antiarc | My paladin in weak-ass PVE gear and a guild DK in PVE gear with a PVE spec went from 0->1600 last night fairly trivially |
18:36.46 | Antiarc | It's pretty hilarious. |
18:37.06 | rubik | haha.. sorry, i meant as a response to the you-don't-have-much-time-to-debug in arenas thing |
18:37.06 | Antiarc | Though I'm playing priest/rogue again this season and that's showing very strong. |
18:37.13 | Antiarc | Aha. I'm slow today :P |
18:38.39 | rubik | crazy.. i should try taking my pally in there. holy, i assume? |
18:39.50 | Shefki | I'm tempted to give arena a try again this season now that things seem a tad more balanced. |
18:40.07 | Antiarc | ret/frost is proving very popular |
18:40.17 | Antiarc | I'm playing holy/unholy at the moment because we're lolcasuals |
18:40.26 | Antiarc | But I may well give ret/frost a go once I have gear for it |
18:40.43 | rubik | interesting |
18:41.12 | Antiarc | ret/priest is also insanely strong, because priests are so durable now. |
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18:41.37 | Antiarc | really, disc priest/anything is the favorite for "OP comp of the season" right now. |
18:43.30 | Fisker- | i r bord |
18:45.27 | Daemona | go do 25man freya hardcore |
18:45.29 | Daemona | problem solved |
18:45.50 | Antiarc | What buffs do the watchers give Freya? |
18:46.15 | Fisker- | Daemona 25man what now? |
18:46.26 | Fisker- | We're busy launching naxx raids |
18:46.39 | Fisker- | Because why go ulduar when you can go naxx instead? |
18:46.41 | Daemona | uuh not sure i only know it hurts |
18:47.03 | kenlyric | why sleep with a model when you can sleep with a crack whore. |
18:47.17 | kenlyric | a lot less pressure with the crack whore |
18:47.23 | Fisker- | i don't think i follow you kenlyric |
18:47.36 | Daemona | but the model is less likely to give you aids kenlyric ,) |
18:47.44 | kenlyric | best not to follow anyone after a crack whore. |
18:50.01 | Daemona | magic dmg +50%, dmg of allys +50%, phys dmg +50% |
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18:52.22 | Daemona | @ Antiarc |
18:52.43 | Fisker- | hey Daemona |
18:52.48 | Fisker- | wanna do some naxx25? |
18:52.54 | Antiarc | That doesn't seem TOO horrible. |
18:52.59 | Antiarc | Sunflare might be problematic. |
18:53.13 | Daemona | rethink that once the detonating lasher explode for 15k each and 2 explode at the same time |
18:53.15 | sylvanaar | the model is just a crack whore in the making |
18:53.26 | durcyn | nature's fury is lethal with the buff up |
18:53.33 | Antiarc | Ah, okay, that makes sense. |
18:53.35 | durcyn | and snaplasher hits like two trucks |
18:54.03 | Fisker- | goes to naxx |
18:54.20 | Antiarc | Where does Freya hardmode fall on the scale of Sarth+3/other Ulduar hardmodes? |
18:55.11 | Gnarfoz | sarth+3 is in ulduar? ^^ |
18:55.21 | durcyn | it's the easiest of the watchers, based on what we've seen so far |
18:55.39 | Daemona | Muru pre-nurg Antiarc |
18:55.40 | durcyn | as long as your dps can keep up with the adds through the hp increase |
18:55.40 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1733 / (4 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList: |
18:55.43 | Repo | - added new tooltips to the armor and weapon texts |
18:55.44 | Antiarc | Well no, but I've done a lot of Sarth+3 so I have a good feel for the difficulty gradient. |
18:55.47 | Repo | - optimized weapon filter check boxes positioning |
18:55.50 | Repo | - removed disabled reputations from filter count |
18:55.54 | Antiarc | Daemona: Heh. Fun. |
18:56.36 | Daemona | no not really :( |
19:00.15 | sztanpet | Shefki do you get a wow error when disabling gift of the wild by any chance? :D |
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19:16.36 | EvilJohn | what thread is TB hammering on? |
19:16.59 | EvilJohn | MT |
19:17.34 | Fisker- | slaps EvilJohn around a bit with a large trout |
19:17.47 | steev | http://www.jonesbigasstruckrentalandstorage.com/jonesgoodassbbqandfootmassage.html |
19:17.52 | EvilJohn | i'll admit |
19:17.54 | EvilJohn | I deserved that. |
19:18.00 | EvilJohn | just listening to blu-plz |
19:19.29 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
19:19.41 | NeoTron | I admit it was rather surprising to see someone unlock algalon that fast |
19:20.03 | Fisker- | i you lied to me neon |
19:20.07 | Fisker- | you too NeoTron |
19:22.01 | Fisker- | moo: os: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate - (6.1.7100) |
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19:23.59 | Xinhuan | ackis |
19:25.31 | ramoz | who unlocked algalon? |
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19:31.02 | NeoTron | don't recall but was on mmo-champ |
19:31.05 | NeoTron | 10 man version |
19:34.37 | ramoz | ah |
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19:42.26 | Koben | Does anyone know anything about the customfilters feature on Prat? The documentation doesn't look to exist, and apparently it uses some regular expressions but not others. I'm having a hard time getting it to work right. |
19:43.19 | waallen | ckknight: any plans of adding the arena enemy unit frames to PB4? |
19:43.46 | sylvanaar | theres not much to know Koben - just have to experiment. there is some docs in the prat thread on the forums |
19:44.02 | ckknight | waallen: you do it |
19:44.03 | ckknight | <.< |
19:44.03 | ckknight | >.> |
19:44.05 | ckknight | :P |
19:44.08 | waallen | :D |
19:44.09 | ckknight | actually, shouldn't be too hard |
19:44.55 | Repo | 10ag_unitframes: 03Shadowed * r705 / (4 files in 4 directories): |
19:44.58 | Repo | * Changed 2D portraits so they at least look square (Even, if they really aren't) |
19:45.01 | Koben | I've been experimenting a lot. The problem is I'm trying to figure out a way for it to match the start of a word |
19:45.01 | Repo | * Player buffs can now be right clicked off through the unit frames |
19:45.04 | Repo | * Fixed bugs related to the group tab not functioning correctly for raid and party |
19:45.07 | Repo | * Fixed an error in PartyMemberFrame.lua when trying to show the blizzard party frames again |
19:45.16 | Koben | ^ was the closest I got, but that only matches the start of a line. |
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19:45.33 | Koben | I looked up regular expressions but custom filters only uses like half of them. |
19:46.00 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1734 / (4 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList: |
19:46.04 | Repo | - added all/none filter options to all three reputation panels |
19:48.11 | Repo | 10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r23 / (2 files in 2 directories): start cleaning up the Player module |
19:48.28 | Repo | 10ag_unitframes: 03Shadowed 04r705 * r706 : Tagging as r705 |
19:49.26 | NeoTron | if you tag using 'rXXX' why not just edit the last auto-created file? :P |
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19:53.26 | Koben | okay, I just looked through all 71 pages of the Prat thread - there was no documentation on expressions used in CustomFilters |
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20:00.55 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1735 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
20:00.58 | Repo | - all pop ups now hide if at least one recipe shows up |
20:01.40 | Kilroo | Koben: since you say you looked up regex and what you're doing doesn't support all of them, I take it \b isn't supported? |
20:02.37 | maqr | ckknight: btw, i've found that if i have the curse profiler addon it seems to cause some problems when exiting wow, like wow hanging or the curse client crashing |
20:02.50 | maqr | ckknight: i don't have any backtraces or anything, just thought i'd mention it |
20:02.54 | ckknight | hmm |
20:03.29 | Hjalte | I've heard of the curse client crashing when trying to upload Profiler data as well. |
20:03.50 | Hjalte | maqr: WoW hanging can be caused by a lot of addons though. You using recount for example? |
20:04.24 | maqr | Hjalte: yeah, but it's almost certainly the curse addon |
20:04.43 | maqr | Hjalte: me and a friend of mine have had the same issue, both solvable by disabling the curse client addon |
20:05.10 | Shefki | I've never understood why anyone would want to run one of those addons anyway. |
20:05.13 | kenlyric | does the wow window go completely black during loading too? |
20:05.19 | Shefki | Curse really can get their own data. |
20:05.35 | Koben | Kilroo: Yes, I tried \b |
20:05.45 | Koben | Didn't seem to work |
20:05.52 | maqr | kenlyric: i've had that happen, but i don't think that's curse related, seems to be related to me alt tabbing at the wrong times |
20:05.56 | kadrahil | rawr 2 hours left at work :( |
20:06.28 | Shefki | I'm somewhat surprised that Blizzard hasn't put their foot down on those addons anyway. The ToU already says that you can't do that. |
20:06.31 | maqr | Shefki: it'd make sense if curse provided an api for developers to send/received saved variable data from their users, i'm not sure what the current profiler does though |
20:06.32 | kadrahil | Koben: regex for what? i just hopped ack i |
20:06.34 | kadrahil | in* |
20:07.06 | Shefki | maqr: Let's you post your characters on Curse (pointless IMHO now that armory exists) and captures quests, item etc data for wowdb. |
20:07.32 | maqr | Shefki: oh, that doesn't sound too useful |
20:07.52 | kenlyric | useful to curse |
20:07.59 | maqr | i don't even see how it'd be useful to them |
20:08.12 | Shefki | maqr: Collects the data they display to us on wowdb. |
20:08.32 | Shefki | Honestly the only useful data it really collects IMHO is drop rates. |
20:08.38 | maqr | i've never used wowdb, seemed kinda spammy to me, i use wowhead |
20:08.50 | Shefki | maqr: wowhead has a similar tool. |
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20:10.05 | Repo | 10better-quest: 03Kemayo * r150 core.lua: Countertastic! |
20:12.04 | Odlaw | god i hate code obfuscation. |
20:23.54 | Antiarc | Hey, mod idea |
20:24.12 | Antiarc | Add a frame and set a keybinding for it |
20:24.32 | Antiarc | Frame is hidden, when you press the keybinding, the screen dims and the frame pops up |
20:24.46 | Antiarc | damage meters, pallypower, whatever |
20:24.54 | Antiarc | yes/no? |
20:25.59 | NeoTron | ... widgets for wow/ |
20:26.01 | NeoTron | ? |
20:26.05 | Antiarc | mroe or less |
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20:26.13 | Antiarc | I could use the new animation stuff |
20:26.16 | durcyn | been done, hasn't it? Dock or somesuch |
20:26.24 | Antiarc | Dock didn't do it too well |
20:26.36 | winkiller | but same idea |
20:26.40 | winkiller | basicallya |
20:26.47 | winkiller | and I still see no point |
20:27.06 | Antiarc | Clean up your working UI, information on demand rather than ever-present |
20:27.08 | winkiller | I have some keybinds for omen/dm toggle |
20:27.12 | durcyn | eh, hotkey/mouseover collapse of unimportant frames is actually useful |
20:27.28 | winkiller | it mostly needs no addon, that's what I mean |
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20:27.40 | winkiller | I have no frames that I'd apply this to |
20:27.55 | winkiller | only never visible - always visible - or already keybound to toggle |
20:28.06 | NeoTron | Antiarc: it's an interesting idea - I can see things I want to have available but not always |
20:28.16 | winkiller | something like quicksilver /gnome-do would be cooler |
20:28.18 | Antiarc | I may do it just to learn the animation API stuff |
20:28.30 | Antiarc | I don't have a Mac so I don't know the usage model :V |
20:29.04 | rubik | does WIM use a bit of that? i just started using it recently to track whispers (switched from Whisp) and it seems nice |
20:29.18 | NeoTron | Antiarc: so I tried to figure out LibDropdown and I admit I couldn't figure out why it bugged on me :P |
20:31.29 | winkiller | Antiarc: gnome-do pops up on keypress, then uses auto-completion of recent/probable stuff in the "launch" input field and then there's a second input field for an argument |
20:31.56 | winkiller | sure, you have console.. so it's not as much a timesaver as starting apps with arguments etc |
20:31.59 | Wobin | Antiarc: Dash |
20:32.01 | Wobin | on wowi |
20:32.05 | Wobin | best addon EVA |
20:32.12 | Wobin | thanks kyhax |
20:32.30 | Wobin | I've been using it for so long... it's great |
20:32.31 | Antiarc | yeah, that's kind of the idea |
20:32.55 | winkiller | I remember the "hey, I got an idea" thread on EJ |
20:32.59 | winkiller | veeery long ago |
20:33.07 | winkiller | and people were desperate for a beta |
20:35.02 | Kilroo | I'm really starting to get into some of this modular stuff, particularly the core-plus-layout model |
20:35.35 | Kilroo | things like LDB, cargoShip, cargBags (latest one I'm fiddling with), HandyNotes, oUF |
20:36.41 | Wobin | MVC? |
20:37.00 | winkiller | most LDB displays I tried fail in a way |
20:37.11 | winkiller | especially Fortress, which I like best |
20:37.14 | Kilroo | What you're describing kinda reminds me of how cargoShip layouts work...and it seems like it ought to be simple enough that I'd just about do it as a Hack script instead of an addon, once I saw an example of how it was done (or got off my lazy arse and did it myself). |
20:37.22 | Wobin | winkiller: ninjapanel? |
20:37.26 | winkiller | TitanPanel had this nice "somehow arrange it, it will be ok" |
20:37.32 | winkiller | Wobin: didn't try that one |
20:37.42 | winkiller | I'm scared of changin my Fortress config :P |
20:37.42 | Wobin | it's a cladhaire addon =) |
20:38.10 | Kilroo | NinjaPanel and cargoShip are my favorites so far. Haven't actually tried NinjaPanel, but it looked more or less like cargoShip with just a smidge of in-game config. |
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20:38.43 | Wobin | I've not seen cargoship |
20:39.12 | Wobin | I've been trying to write Squawk in MVC |
20:39.18 | Antiarc | I just use ButtonBin |
20:39.28 | Wobin | and it's so ssimple I think I'm doing it wrong =P |
20:39.38 | Kilroo | cargoShip is sort of like an oUF layout for LDB. |
20:39.45 | Kilroo | Only less so. |
20:40.03 | winkiller | If you know MVC, everything looks like a nail |
20:40.09 | winkiller | or how that saying went :P |
20:40.26 | Antiarc | MVC just makes an awful lot of sense |
20:40.27 | Kilroo | It gives you just enough of a framework to make it easy to configure your LDB stuff in the lua yourself. |
20:40.32 | Antiarc | It results in terribly maintainable code |
20:41.22 | Wobin | Antiarc: I'm kinda finding that =) |
20:41.45 | Wobin | like, I know precisely where to change stuff to effect ideas |
20:41.56 | Antiarc | And you know that it's not going to break another piece of your app |
20:42.31 | Wobin | I just don't know if I'm applying it too simplistically |
20:45.13 | Kilroo | I'm actually having a harder time than I ought to with grasping MVC. |
20:45.47 | Antiarc | It's not too hard. Your model is your data store. DB, whatever. It handles data and nothing but data. |
20:46.02 | Antiarc | The view is how you look at the data. Given data, it should be able to represent it to the user. |
20:46.05 | Wobin | it can manipulate that data though, right? |
20:46.20 | Antiarc | The view should never manipulate data |
20:46.26 | Wobin | no sorry, the model |
20:46.28 | kadrahil | the model handles manipulating data |
20:46.38 | Antiarc | Controllers manipulate data. They take input from the view, and modify the model, then pass the model to the view |
20:46.47 | Antiarc | Well, yeah |
20:46.49 | kadrahil | well at the base level |
20:46.57 | kadrahil | i think we know what we mean :P |
20:47.02 | Antiarc | Models handle manipulating data, controllers should be high-level interfaces to modifying models |
20:47.04 | Kilroo | The first place I worked as a programmer we used a setup that was -sort of- like MVC, only not quite. |
20:47.05 | winkiller | the basic idea of MVC is just common sense |
20:47.07 | Wobin | I was thinking more, manipulating the data outside of user input |
20:47.16 | winkiller | to avoid spaghetti code with many dependences |
20:47.29 | kadrahil | think of the model as the most basic abstraction to whatever data store you're using |
20:47.41 | Wobin | like making avaliable sorted lists, filtered groups, etc |
20:47.49 | winkiller | a pure MVC in Java, all with bells, whistles and listeners isn't exactly fun |
20:47.49 | Wobin | for the controller to pass to the view |
20:47.50 | Antiarc | That's view code. |
20:48.03 | Antiarc | The model shouldn't really be filtering. It's just a data set. |
20:48.10 | Antiarc | The controller can pass a filtered data set to a view |
20:48.16 | Antiarc | And the view is stupid and just displays what it's given |
20:48.32 | kadrahil | the only code i include in my models is adding, removing, and modifying objects |
20:48.36 | kadrahil | at the base level |
20:48.41 | Kilroo | We had a Model, and we had a UI made from standardized building blocks, but the Controller duties were sort of spread between the Model and the brokers that talked to it. |
20:49.13 | Antiarc | Honestly, playing with Rails gave me the clearest sense I'd gotten on how to use MVC properly |
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20:49.23 | Antiarc | It's really easy if you stick MVC, and it gets really hard if you try to violate it. |
20:49.30 | kadrahil | Antiarc: i believe a model could also take some parameters (with defaults defined) from the view for sorting database results or limiting it |
20:49.34 | Kilroo | And there was some view stuff that was in the model because we handled pagination using limits and subqueries, I think. |
20:50.03 | Wobin | k, take for example, then, Squawk. It's essentially a twitter program for WoW, so each twitter has certain information about it, author, time, etc. I've been using the Model to say "give me the last 10 squawks from person X" |
20:50.23 | Antiarc | That's controller code, IMO |
20:50.32 | Wobin | kk |
20:50.33 | kadrahil | i think it could go either way |
20:50.40 | Antiarc | The model can have method you invoke to get that, but actually getting that data set should be controller code |
20:50.53 | kadrahil | if you have a function in your model that takes an optional parameter limiting the results |
20:51.00 | Wobin | this ^ |
20:51.14 | Antiarc | Press a button on the view that asks for the last 10 tweets. Controller asks the model for the last 10, gets that resultant data set, and passes it to the view |
20:51.21 | Wobin | aye |
20:51.23 | Repo | 10magic-comm: 038tImER * r57 MagicComm/CCSpellIDs.lua: - Add Repentance to CC spells |
20:51.38 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: hope you don't mind ---^ |
20:52.14 | Hirsute | Wait, a twitter program for WoW? |
20:52.16 | Antiarc | General rule of thumb is that if you find yourself repeating your code, you probably don't have it factored correctly |
20:52.37 | Wobin | Hirsute: ^^ |
20:52.39 | kadrahil | yeah |
20:52.56 | kadrahil | i'm switching to openbsd on my work dev box ;O |
20:53.05 | Wobin | Hirsute: self contained in the game, since we can't get outside info |
20:53.39 | Hirsute | Wobin: That's what I was confused about. |
20:53.43 | Hirsute | I'm with you now |
20:54.01 | Antiarc | I really wish we would get external comms access in WoW |
20:54.04 | Arrowmaster | i still dont get the point of twitter |
20:54.06 | Wobin | which is why I changed the name to squawk |
20:54.08 | Antiarc | The botters just hook into memory space already |
20:54.17 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Do you use it? |
20:54.24 | Arrowmaster | no |
20:54.26 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: it's for the incremental blogggers |
20:54.28 | Antiarc | I didn't "get it" until I started using it |
20:54.34 | Antiarc | But I do now and rather enjoy it |
20:56.24 | Kilroo | I'm really looking forward to fiddling with cargBags more. |
20:56.51 | Hirsute | I enjoy seeing little updates from my buddies, and posting little updates. It's fast, so it doesn't take much commitment, and let's me quickly share things of humor/interest. |
20:56.56 | Wobin | what's your username on twitter, antiarc? |
20:57.00 | Antiarc | cheald |
20:57.10 | Hirsute | It's like facebook or IM statuses without the facebook/im |
20:57.20 | Wobin | *pow* |
20:57.21 | Kilroo | ...It does occur to me that I might personally like Pernobilis better than Gnomed until I do my own layout... |
20:57.42 | Antiarc | What it really is, is like being in a group of people all having conversations. You can listen to the conversations you are interested in, and join one |
20:57.52 | Antiarc | It's like IRC, but you only hear people you're interested in |
20:57.57 | Arrowmaster | my IM statuses only change between 3 presets, none, idle, and away |
20:58.19 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Not the IMs I use. I can generally set them to whatever I want. |
20:58.21 | Arrowmaster | mines setup to automaticly go away when i lock my computer |
20:58.27 | Arrowmaster | i can too |
20:58.29 | Arrowmaster | i just dont |
20:58.36 | Arrowmaster | because i see no reason to |
20:58.41 | Hirsute | *nod* |
20:59.00 | Hirsute | And that's just fine. I enjoy playing with them (particularly when I need to break up the monotony of studying) |
20:59.49 | Wobin | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/4/23/ |
21:01.04 | Antiarc | Follow Shaq |
21:01.09 | Antiarc | Best twitter user ever. |
21:01.19 | Antiarc | http://twitter.com/the_real_shaq |
21:01.33 | Antiarc | I dnt spell I use shaqbonics, I was fourth grade spellin bee champion, in hinesville ga, thank ouy vrey mcuh |
21:01.47 | kadrahil | i forgot to enable ipv6 translation on my openbsd install |
21:01.48 | kadrahil | ;| |
21:02.10 | durcyn | it's just a sysctl |
21:02.20 | Wobin | Antiarc: I liked his Oprah smackdown |
21:02.21 | kadrahil | ah, i'll look aroud |
21:02.29 | Antiarc | yes, that made me guffaw. |
21:03.21 | Hirsute | That made me almost blow my Dr. Pepper out my nose just now. |
21:03.24 | Hirsute | "twitter shitter" |
21:03.33 | Wobin | hehe |
21:03.46 | kadrahil | durcyn: oh apparently our dns server doesn't resolve ipv6 addresses |
21:03.49 | kadrahil | lame |
21:03.57 | Wobin | PA can be very hit and miss |
21:04.02 | Wobin | most of the ttime miss |
21:04.07 | Wobin | but occasionally funny |
21:04.22 | Wobin | anyway |
21:04.25 | Wobin | time to try to nap |
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21:06.48 | Antiarc | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/4/22/ was awesome |
21:06.51 | Antiarc | Cringeworthy |
21:06.52 | Antiarc | But awesome |
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21:24.34 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: ping |
21:24.36 | Primer | NeoTron: I recall that you mentioned that the SavedVariables/MagicDKP.lua would have to be deleted to account for that localization issue...I kept getting the error until today, when I remembered this...anyhow, couldn't that have been accounted for in code? |
21:24.56 | Primer | like, a prefs version setting or something? |
21:25.21 | Primer | I'm curious because I had a similar situation, where I told people to delete my addon's pref file |
21:27.40 | sb|work | nevcairiel: do you know whats wrong with sRF rangecheck + talent specs? |
21:27.53 | nevcairiel | there is nothign wrong |
21:27.55 | sb|work | hm |
21:28.20 | sb|work | mage reported that all units are out of range after changing talent specs |
21:28.30 | sb|work | or using teleporters in ulduar |
21:28.52 | nevcairiel | tell him to get the alpha |
21:28.57 | sb|work | okay |
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21:37.23 | Repo | 10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r24 / (6 files in 3 directories): package as Quartz3 so we can test alongside mainline |
21:38.19 | Kemayo | Nice to see development on quartz. (It still works perfectly... but the config screens just look weirdly out of place nowadays.) :) |
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21:40.45 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r169 Options/localization/YurrCombatLogOptionsLocale.lua: YurrCombatLog: |
21:40.48 | Repo | - fix for non-translated locales |
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21:41.56 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: yar |
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21:42.21 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: (it will of course not be used by anything until you bump the rev of MagicComm.lua :o) |
21:42.23 | durcyn | Kemayo: yeah, waterfall can go the way of the dodo, and soon |
21:42.49 | Nechckn | ckknight suggestion for some WoWAce forum poll- Have you ever posted a NSFW pic of yourself on the net for the purpose of either sending it to people or <cough> recruitment <cough> of friends with benefits. |
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21:42.55 | NeoTron | Primer: of course. however I have limited time. |
21:43.10 | ckknight | Nechckn: sure have |
21:44.09 | Nechckn | See... I am too whatever for that... heck, I don't even think there are pics of that type in existance. |
21:45.24 | Pneumatus | whats the version of /console CameraDistanceMaxFactor 4 that lasts between logouts? |
21:46.52 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: need to modify MagicMarker to support that as well I suppose. |
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21:48.48 | Repo | 10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r133 core.lua: |
21:48.51 | Repo | Add a callback to keep the db shortcut correct when profiles change |
21:48.57 | vhaarr | sb|work: when I have time I currently tweak the ulduar bigwigs modules and make sure others commits look sane |
21:49.10 | vhaarr | sb|work: when Ammo is back from vacation (possibly this week), we'll get some more work done on oRA3 |
21:50.17 | Antiarc | vhaarr: XT's tantrum timer was 10-12 sec too long in 25s on Wednesday |
21:50.17 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: magicmarker? ^^ I did that for MagicTargets |
21:50.27 | vhaarr | Antiarc: yeah I'll just remove it completely |
21:50.32 | vhaarr | Antiarc: it's impossible to time it |
21:52.29 | Repo | 10liblogger-1-0: 03dhedbor * r32 LibLogger-1.0.toc: Toc bump |
21:52.32 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: understood |
21:52.37 | NeoTron | but magicmarker also uses it :P |
21:52.58 | durcyn | you're up to three lordfarlander libs now, neo :( |
21:53.00 | nevcairiel | I wonder if you've been using magicmarker lately, with all the errors that popped up when you used the options =p |
21:53.43 | NeoTron | I use it daily |
21:53.48 | NeoTron | and has seen no errors |
21:53.56 | NeoTron | I noticed you fixed something but I never saw a single error |
21:54.04 | nevcairiel | you probably didnt use the options then :) |
21:54.26 | nevcairiel | configuring which CCs and which Icons to assign threw errors |
21:54.26 | NeoTron | I did |
21:54.40 | nevcairiel | all your custom widgets |
21:54.47 | nevcairiel | teh broken! |
21:55.05 | NeoTron | well I understand :P but I still got no errors with it |
21:55.32 | nevcairiel | You had to, the templates simply error if you create the frames without a name |
21:55.43 | nevcairiel | unless you never accessed a page with one of the custom widgets |
21:55.56 | nevcairiel | which you usually don't once you have it set up, i guess |
21:55.59 | NeoTron | well if it errored I didn't notice. |
21:56.02 | NeoTron | change in 3.1? |
21:56.06 | nevcairiel | dunno |
21:56.11 | nevcairiel | but buttons need a name now |
21:56.13 | NeoTron | I know for sure it didn't error before 3.0 at least |
21:56.25 | nevcairiel | i only started using it again in 3.1 |
21:56.30 | NeoTron | well they should have had them, since best case it bugs in mysterious ways |
21:56.48 | NeoTron | but it's been "working" fine since forever so it has to be a new change |
21:56.55 | NeoTron | that made it error I mean |
21:57.01 | nevcairiel | possibly |
21:57.06 | nevcairiel | it didnt block functionality either |
21:57.10 | nevcairiel | it just threw errors :D |
21:58.36 | NeoTron | good stuff |
21:58.41 | Gnarfoz | also remember that sometimes bugs only occur on fresh installs ;) |
21:59.03 | nevcairiel | i still wonder how that part in magic looter ever worked that i fixed |
21:59.07 | nevcairiel | hehe |
21:59.43 | nevcairiel | although i'm not using that anymore |
22:02.16 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie * r275 XPerl_RaidAdmin (2 files in 1 directory): XPerl: ItemChecker scrollbar fixes. |
22:03.51 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: called being in-development. it changed at some point |
22:04.06 | NeoTron | and wasn't it just something like a missing local? |
22:04.19 | nevcairiel | yea it was |
22:04.26 | nevcairiel | but, you had the same var in 2 files |
22:04.34 | nevcairiel | so the second would totally screw with the first |
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22:05.22 | NeoTron | but they contained the same data |
22:05.32 | NeoTron | so a overwrote a basically |
22:05.55 | nevcairiel | i dunno, half the options of magic looter didnt want to show until i fixed it |
22:06.45 | NeoTron | anyhow I do wonder how I made that particular mistake |
22:07.00 | nevcairiel | those just slip in |
22:07.02 | nevcairiel | who knows |
22:07.19 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5362 Ulduar (6 files in 1 directory): |
22:07.22 | Repo | * Remove Tantrum warnings and bars from the XT-002 module, they're useless and it's basically impossible to time. |
22:07.25 | Repo | * Reset harpoon count on Razorscale each grounding phase. |
22:07.28 | Repo | * Remove Chain Lightning warnings on Iron Council. |
22:07.31 | Repo | * Some random color and sound tweaks all around. |
22:09.44 | maqr | maybe someone can kick me in the right direction, because i'm lost here... i've got some kind of wow bug that won't let me track more quests, and if i delete my wtf\account\name directory, it fixes it (but i obviously lose all of my settings), and i can't seem to isolate the files that're causing the problem |
22:09.45 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r170 / (2 files in 1 directory): YurrCombatLog: |
22:09.48 | Repo | - fixed LibStub in .toc, added CallbackHandler-1.0 |
22:10.07 | vhaarr | maqr: you've got some crap addon :p |
22:10.48 | maqr | vhaarr: it's not that, if i disable all addons, it still happens, i think there's some corrupt file somewhere in this wtf directory |
22:11.33 | maqr | vhaarr: i've been trying for quite a while now to pin down what it might be, but the only solution seems to be to delete all the files in the directory |
22:12.20 | maqr | vhaarr: if i delete just wtf\account\name\* or just wtf\account\name\realm\*, neither one of them fixes it... but if i delete both (and lose all of my settings), i can track quests again |
22:12.26 | maqr | i'm extremely confused as how that might be happening |
22:13.16 | vhaarr | tried just deleting Config.wtf? |
22:13.36 | maqr | vhaarr: you mean config-cache.wtf? |
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22:17.16 | Nechckn | maqr config.wtf should be at ..\WorldofWarcraft\WTF |
22:18.18 | Nechckn | That is just your local settings as far as the Blizz stuff goes. config-cache is much further down |
22:18.19 | robotusch | HM |
22:18.22 | maqr | Nechckn: oh, i see, that's not the thing causing the issue though |
22:18.28 | robotusch | methinks freenode is lagging a bit :< |
22:19.55 | Axodious | Funkeh` did oyu get my msg yesterday about my yogg transcript? |
22:20.38 | Nechckn | maqr okay, so then you likely will need to do a binary search to determine if it is a specific file in a specific folder |
22:20.42 | Repo | 10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r25 locale (7 files in 1 directory): use temp Quartz3 namespace for locales too |
22:21.41 | Nechckn | You can also give ye olde blizzard repair utility a try |
22:21.49 | maqr | blizzard has a repair utility? |
22:21.50 | Nechckn | if you are under MS Windows |
22:21.54 | maqr | i am |
22:22.12 | Nechckn | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=21465&searchQuery=Repair&pageNumber=1 |
22:22.20 | Repo | 10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r26 / (2 files in 1 directory): add locale and module xml, oops |
22:22.25 | Nechckn | Be sure to **uncheck* the first two options |
22:22.41 | maqr | Nechckn: if i delete the realm settings, test, fail, then restore; delete the account settings, test, fail; it seems to indicate the problem is elsewhere... but if i delete both realm and account settings, it fixes it |
22:22.45 | Nechckn | just have it rebuild the cache and then select the "Verify and repair" or whatever.. the top button |
22:22.47 | maqr | Nechckn: that's why i'm so confused, but i'll try that tool |
22:23.59 | Nechckn | Try that tool.. I really don't know if it gets in that far, but it should do the basic checks/ensure that the requisite files are there. |
22:24.27 | Nechckn | Since the Blizz likes to say "disable all addons" before trouble shooting and all. |
22:24.32 | maqr | Nechckn: oh, i've already got that addonkit thing |
22:24.35 | Nechckn | But- it can't hurt |
22:24.45 | Nechckn | The repair tool |
22:25.05 | Nechckn | not the UI customization tool |
22:25.24 | Nechckn | http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/Repair.zip |
22:25.29 | maqr | oh, it linked it oddly |
22:25.38 | maqr | nevermind, i'm retarded :) |
22:26.42 | maqr | Nechckn: oh, i see what this thing does, it checks the installation |
22:27.14 | maqr | yeah, that won't do it, since it's in the wtf directory |
22:27.20 | maqr | good to know it exists though |
22:27.23 | Nechckn | BTW, no matter how this turns out, take this as the best warning to start backing up the entire WTF often. We have a basic outline via http://wiki.norganna.org/Auctioneer/Backup |
22:27.26 | Nechckn | Did you run it? |
22:28.29 | maqr | Nechckn: i'm running the scan before i tell it to reset anything, but yeah, it just seems to scan the installed game content |
22:29.04 | NeoTron | durcyn: so is the quartz+ace3 in a testable state yet? |
22:32.05 | durcyn | NeoTron: nowhere close |
22:32.16 | durcyn | i'm still fiddling with the modules and option tables |
22:32.31 | Pneumatus | is there a portal in ulduar down to vezax? |
22:32.41 | vhaarr | no |
22:32.49 | vhaarr | kologarn/freya |
22:32.53 | NeoTron | durcyn: ok. I'll test it when it gets closer. |
22:33.32 | Pneumatus | fail, is there a teleport to yogg after vezax is dead? |
22:34.01 | vhaarr | ye |
22:34.19 | Pneumatus | aha |
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22:34.37 | Pneumatus | got mimiron down finally, thats one hell of a fight :o |
22:35.07 | Shefki | So someone write a filter Peggle addon yet? |
22:35.11 | Shefki | Tried of the spam on /g |
22:35.30 | Hjalte | Shefki: Ask them to stop publishing. |
22:35.43 | Shefki | Hjalte: Yeah right. |
22:35.44 | NeoTron | is that part unavoidable? |
22:35.45 | Arrowmaster | write a mod that gkicks them automaticly |
22:35.47 | Pneumatus | /gkick |
22:35.55 | NeoTron | or is it something the user has to start |
22:35.55 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Don't have that priv. |
22:35.56 | Pneumatus | is a pretty effective filter |
22:36.02 | Nechckn | That's up to you, maqr. Don't recall seeing a corrupt entire ..\WorldofWarcraft\WTF\Account\<user_name>\ it has most often been a single saved variable that is causing issues. You may well be stuck, unfortunately. No matter the outcome.. remember to start backing up via some automated method, whether as suggested on the wiki page or some "real" backup software. |
22:36.38 | Shefki | Hjalte: In theory you could just stop asking people to be assholes... But sometimes people don't comply so people gave us an /ignore function. |
22:36.39 | Nechckn | Also, I was thinking that you have, but just in case- check the properties on the entire WTF and set that to r/w for your computer user account, then select option to apply to sub-folders/documents and apply. |
22:39.34 | Nechckn | Gotta bolt, but best of luck with it. Hopefully it's just the permissions or 1 file, not the whole thing. |
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22:40.19 | vhaarr | anyone got a freya and mimiron p4 25man transcript? |
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22:41.44 | Repo | 10gfx-toggle-2: 03Drool * r76 gfxToggle2.lua: - general code tidy-up; part 3 |
22:41.47 | Repo | - use getter function for set display name |
22:41.50 | Repo | - separate CVar db out from other saved vars (all sets will be lost) |
22:41.51 | maqr | vhaarr: just a combatlog? |
22:41.57 | vhaarr | transcript |
22:42.03 | vhaarr | @project Transcriptor |
22:42.05 | Repo | vhaarr: http://www.wowace.com/projects/transcriptor/. Transcriptor. Game: WoW. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Updated: 14 hours ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
22:42.06 | maqr | how do you dump that? |
22:42.06 | maqr | oh |
22:42.20 | maqr | had i known i would have taken one last night, sorry :/ |
22:43.33 | Gnarfoz | maqr: by opening the SV file ;) |
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22:49.25 | Xinhuan | ackis |
22:49.36 | Ackis | sup |
22:49.39 | Xinhuan | how come libaboutpanel isn't lod |
22:49.58 | Ackis | 42 |
22:52.01 | Ackis | i've had really bad problems with lod tbh |
22:52.44 | Pneumatus | why is bigwigs spamming me that it needs transcriptor logs for yogg when im clearing vezax trash? :< |
22:53.05 | maqr | Pneumatus: the trash in ulduar is so OP that you need alerts for it? :) |
22:53.41 | vhaarr | Pneumatus: define "spamming" |
22:53.55 | Pneumatus | every time i enter/leave combat it seems |
22:54.58 | vhaarr | fixed |
22:55.00 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5363 Ulduar/YoggSaron.lua: Only show the log message when Yogg is engaged. |
22:55.26 | Pneumatus | pro |
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23:03.09 | Repo | 10head-count: 03kagaro * r83 HeadCount.lua: HeadCount: update of filter.s |
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23:07.49 | Pneumatus | does headcount know about ulduar + its bosses yet? |
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23:09.16 | Shadoweric | yes |
23:10.30 | rubik | maybe it does now but on wed, it labeled bosses like "Right Arm" and the 3 giants on Freya |
23:10.47 | rubik | but i know it's had a couple updates since then that i saw |
23:11.21 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: MagicDKP does with possible issue on general and yoggi :P |
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23:11.35 | Pneumatus | i dont want magicdkp tho :P |
23:11.53 | NeoTron | you do, you just don't knew that you did |
23:12.07 | NeoTron | s/don't knew/didn't know/ |
23:12.29 | Repo | 10peggleoff: 03Shefki 07master * b352eee / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial commit. |
23:12.46 | Pneumatus | lack of images in its project page makes baby jesuses cry |
23:12.56 | maqr | i have identified the file breaking my quest tracker |
23:13.01 | maqr | layout-local.txt ... somehow |
23:13.19 | Repo | 10peggleoff: 03Shefki 04v0.1 * 07f9e34 /: [new tag] Tagging as v0.1 |
23:13.43 | Shefki | Someone approve PeggleOff please. :) |
23:13.47 | Gnarfoz | @describe peggleoff |
23:13.49 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/peggleoff/. PeggleOff. Filter Peggle spam from Guild, Party and Raid chat. |
23:15.02 | maqr | peggle? |
23:15.07 | maqr | there's a wow peggle addon? |
23:15.13 | Shefki | God yes. |
23:15.19 | maqr | oh i'm behind the times |
23:15.19 | Shefki | and it spams freaking chat. |
23:15.38 | maqr | they put the most addictive game ever inside the most addictive game ever |
23:15.40 | maqr | yo dawg, etc |
23:15.44 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: yeah that is probably true |
23:15.56 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: I'll get some up this week |
23:16.10 | rubik | hmm... never heard of this peggle game.. wtf |
23:16.16 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: btw do you see CC on Magic Targets bars? |
23:16.19 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: like duration/icon |
23:16.26 | NeoTron | because.. I don't. I must have broken it |
23:16.34 | NeoTron | rubik: came out like yesterday or something |
23:16.37 | NeoTron | for WoW that is |
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23:16.43 | maqr | doesn't obfuscation of code violate the tos? |
23:16.46 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: yeah, it's broken |
23:16.59 | rubik | oh.. i meant i haven't heard of it outside of WoW so goggling now.. |
23:16.59 | Shefki | maqr: It's not exactly obfuscated. |
23:17.00 | Repo | 10quartz: 03durcyn 06ace3 * r27 / (3 files in 3 directories): |
23:17.03 | Repo | fix core options and defaults tables, modules are still broken |
23:17.06 | maqr | Shefki: this is clearly obfuscated |
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23:18.00 | Hirsute | maqr: Well, not the ToS directly, but the new UI policy |
23:18.33 | maqr | yeah, take that, carbonite :P |
23:18.44 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Detseuqer * r716 Readme.txt: DrDamage: |
23:18.47 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: I know I tried it sometime during development because I logged on my warlock |
23:18.48 | Repo | - Test commit to make sure I have permissions. |
23:18.52 | NeoTron | but then I suppose I broke it |
23:18.58 | maqr | ohh, a drdamage update, sweet |
23:19.10 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: it's not erroring, so... not sure :D |
23:19.26 | NeoTron | yeah the code that calculates the cc string must bail |
23:19.27 | NeoTron | fail |
23:19.38 | rubik | i must try this peggle thing |
23:19.45 | thul | does hunters rocketjump now? |
23:20.03 | Hirsute | Huh? |
23:20.12 | Hirsute | You talking about disengage? |
23:20.21 | NeoTron | err I appear to never actually USE the string I make |
23:20.40 | maqr | rubik: if only the code didn't look so evil... but i want to run it so much :/ |
23:21.09 | maqr | whoo! fixed my quest tracker problem! |
23:21.45 | rubik | ohh.. so you guys saying that the Peggle code is obfuscated/bad? |
23:22.01 | maqr | rubik: i don't know what everyone else is saying, but i just looked at the lua and it's unreadable |
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23:22.52 | maqr | i'm honestly thinking about running it just because of how addictive peggle is, but i don't want others in game to get spam :/ |
23:22.52 | rubik | oh wow |
23:22.56 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/peggleoff/. PeggleOff. Shefki (Manager/Author). Approved by ckknight. |
23:23.30 | maqr | wow, peggleoff is already on curse? |
23:23.32 | maqr | that's damn fast |
23:23.36 | Shefki | I just wrote it. |
23:23.45 | maqr | that's awesome |
23:25.15 | Repo | 10magic-targets: 03dhedbor * r81 MagicTargets.lua: [*]Fix display of cc strings/icons. |
23:25.18 | maqr | so apparently questhelper broke my quest tracker, and the solution was to delete the QH-related lines in layout-local.txt (in case anyone else has that problem) |
23:25.19 | Repo | [*]Support for Repentence. |
23:25.22 | NeoTron | that should do the trick |
23:27.00 | maqr | ckknight: btw, any chance of getting lightheaded into curse? |
23:27.11 | ckknight | it's unlikely |
23:27.20 | ckknight | since it uses WowHead data |
23:27.21 | ckknight | owned by Zam |
23:27.22 | maqr | because of the user comments being farmed? |
23:27.23 | maqr | yeah |
23:27.24 | ckknight | which is our competitor |
23:27.55 | maqr | i wonder if they have an auto-updater |
23:27.59 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: did you make it include alphas of MagicComm? (wouldn't you *still* need to bump MagicComm?) |
23:28.03 | Hirsute | ckknight: Because Curse wouldn't allow it there, or because Zam wouldn't? |
23:28.26 | ckknight | Hirsute: ultimately it's jnwhiteh's decision, but his reasoning is that Zam wouldn't want it |
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23:28.47 | Hirsute | *nod* |
23:33.29 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: afaik packaging will use alpha AND I already bumped magic comm anyway |
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23:36.06 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: packaging uses what you specify ;) |
23:36.35 | Repo | 10handy-notes_flight-masters: 03Xinhuan * r73 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
23:36.38 | Repo | Update Wintergrasp, Icecrown, Dalaran and Sholazar Basin with new patch 3.1 flight paths connections (9 Alliance, 9 Horde, 12 neutral). |
23:36.41 | Repo | Update TOC to 30100 and version to v1.0.3. |
23:39.08 | maqr | i'm pretty impressed with the animation in this peggle addon, even if it is evily obfuscated |
23:40.13 | NeoTron | I haven't seen it but.. you can pretty much do anything in terms of animation and stuff |
23:40.30 | Xinhuan | @project peggleoff |
23:40.31 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/peggleoff/. PeggleOff. Game: WoW. Shefki (Manager/Author). Updated: 27 minutes ago |
23:40.47 | Xinhuan | LOL |
23:40.57 | kadrahil | wat |
23:41.29 | Xinhuan | what, can't i lol? ;p |
23:41.36 | kadrahil | NO |
23:41.38 | kadrahil | YOU CAN'T |
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23:45.47 | Odlaw | There a way to return which iteration of string.gmatch we are on in a for loop: for word in string.gmatch(TheString, "%a+") do |
23:46.27 | Odlaw | or some other way of doing it. |
23:46.43 | Xinhuan | use a counter? |
23:46.45 | Xinhuan | upvalue it |
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23:46.58 | Odlaw | Was hoping for a simpilar way |
23:47.06 | Odlaw | simpler |
23:47.15 | Xinhuan | that is the simplest (and only) way |
23:47.24 | Odlaw | ok :( |
23:50.42 | Repo | 10grid: 03Sayclub * r1192 GridLocale-koKR.lua: koKR update |
23:53.12 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: local MAJOR, MINOR = "MagicComm-1.0", 81000 + tonumber(string.match("$Revision: 55 $", "[0-9]+")) |
23:53.19 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: from the latest magictargets zip |
23:53.43 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: so if MagicMarker or DKP are present, Repentance will not work with any of them since it will not upgrade the others |
23:55.15 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: indeed. |
23:55.23 | Gnarfoz | so I guess... |
23:55.31 | NeoTron | I never considered that part |
23:55.48 | NivFreak | christ cell coverage sucks in SF |
23:56.00 | NivFreak | both my verizon and at&t cells are spotty as fuck |
23:56.01 | Hirsute | what about buddha cell? |
23:56.04 | Hirsute | >.> |
23:56.10 | NivFreak | :P |
23:56.14 | NeoTron | easy enough to fix going forward |
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23:57.01 | NeoTron | that think changed so rarely I never had an issue :P |
23:57.40 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: although the way it is written now.. what ever loads last wins |
23:57.50 | Gnarfoz | which... could be anything :D |
23:57.54 | NeoTron | indeed |
23:58.04 | Gnarfoz | and shouldn't it bail out if the lib is already loaded? |
23:58.07 | Gnarfoz | i.e. first one wins? |
23:58.26 | NeoTron | it should do a version check |
23:58.37 | NeoTron | that's what it should do. if its minor > current minor, then overwrite |
23:58.42 | Gnarfoz | and why can't I just 'touch MagicComm.lua' and commit, svn ignores the changed timestamp :X |
23:58.52 | NeoTron | no actual change :P |
23:59.01 | NeoTron | but I'll fix that to use @project-revision@ |
23:59.09 | NeoTron | however changing that doesn't fix the root cause :-/ |
23:59.29 | Gnarfoz | which obviously is: libraries split into multiple files suck for upgrading |
23:59.44 | Gnarfoz | because you always have to touch the file that carries the version |
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23:59.47 | NeoTron | as I said, it was a static table I needed shared :P |
23:59.53 | NeoTron | didn't change at all until 3.1 really |
23:59.55 | NeoTron | err |
23:59.56 | NeoTron | 3.0 |