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| 00:00.28 | Antiarc | Not AFAIK, SunTsu |
| 00:00.31 | Antiarc | WTB PCRE for Lua. |
| 00:00.38 | SunTsu | ACK, me too |
| 00:00.57 | SunTsu | Antiarc: Thanks |
| 00:01.19 | SunTsu | Would have been too easy |
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| 00:19.23 | Toadkiller | am i crazy or did the color picker used to let you adjust alpha as well? |
| 00:23.59 | Torhal | Toadkiller: Right-hand slider allowed alpha change |
| 00:24.38 | Hirsute | Torhal: Eh? |
| 00:24.59 | Torhal | Hirsute: The color picker had a slider on the right that allowed alpha changes |
| 00:25.16 | Bruners | for some it had it at least |
| 00:25.19 | Hirsute | Torhal: I think you might have been responding to something someone else said. |
| 00:25.36 | Torhal | Hirsute: Yah, just responded to Toadkiller |
| 00:25.39 | Ackis | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/overachiever/tickets/51-host-on-wowmatrix-for-auto-updated/ |
| 00:25.40 | Maelos` | Is there a way to roll up all the WTF saved variables into a single Interface element? |
| 00:25.43 | Hirsute | Ah, okay |
| 00:25.57 | Maelos` | Basically want to avoid packaging my UI with the WTF folder at all |
| 00:25.59 | Torhal | Hirsute: I responded to you earlier about AUtobar |
| 00:26.02 | Maelos` | Layout is sorted out |
| 00:26.22 | Hirsute | Torhal: Was that the OnUpdate() comment? |
| 00:26.23 | Maelos` | durcyn: thanks for your help btw, this is a much better solution than providing layout-locals :) |
| 00:27.21 | Hirsute | Ackis: Is that from a mod author who moved over to WoWMatrix from curse? |
| 00:27.23 | Hirsute | I'm confused. |
| 00:28.03 | Hirsute | Ah, it's a user posting a ticket asing someone to move over to WM |
| 00:28.06 | Hirsute | Silly user. |
| 00:28.33 | Toadkiller | Hirsute: I have not fixed AutoBar popups using the patch code yet |
| 00:29.14 | Hirsute | Toadkiller: Just the fact that it can be fixed is good to know. I can be patient. I was under the impression that there wasn't a way to fix it at all. |
| 00:30.17 | Toadkiller | Blizzard broke it, they have now fixed it and I understand that they may even have fixed it in the rational way Maul and I have been whining for the last 2 or 3 years |
| 00:30.39 | Torhal | Hirsute: Yah |
| 00:30.59 | Hirsute | Yay! |
| 00:31.24 | Hirsute | Why when I search CurseForge for Autobar am I finding one that hasn't been updated in about a year, by some other addon author? Hrmmm. |
| 00:31.39 | Torhal | Hirsute: Whom? |
| 00:31.47 | Bruners | http://www.wowace.com/projects/auto-bar/ |
| 00:32.04 | Toadkiller | lowut? |
| 00:32.09 | Hirsute | Torhal: Felyza |
| 00:32.09 | Toadkiller | lolwut? |
| 00:32.59 | Hirsute | http://war.curseforge.com/projects/autobar/ |
| 00:33.16 | Torhal | Oh |
| 00:33.20 | Torhal | That's a WAR addon |
| 00:33.35 | Torhal | And it's only been 5 months :) |
| 00:34.02 | Hirsute | Aa-ha. That's why. |
| 00:34.22 | Torhal | Still, pretty lame to take the name |
| 00:35.03 | Toadkiller | ah, war. probably ok. I will never have the time to spare to play another mmorpg |
| 00:35.22 | VonhintenHOME` | buff filtering and grouping mods that support horizontal icon placement, discuss |
| 00:36.01 | Toadkiller | sounds reasonable |
| 00:36.47 | Bruners | are the windows 7 beta's worth testing ? |
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| 00:39.44 | Dark_Elf | sbf isnt to bad if u just like buff icons |
| 00:44.39 | Hirsute | Heh. A mod on the curse forums just made a note in the epic WM thread: The omgcursesucksihateyoualldieomgwowmx thread will be closing quite soon. |
| 00:51.43 | Toadkiller | Aha, I suck at add hasAlpha = true |
| 00:51.49 | Toadkiller | *adding |
| 00:57.06 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.06 | ckknight | Could you please make DurabilityFu available for update by WowMatrix? |
| 00:57.06 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.06 | ckknight | Thanks, |
| 00:57.06 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.06 | ckknight | Melenudo |
| 00:57.08 | ckknight | Scarlet Crusade |
| 00:57.10 | ckknight | oh dang |
| 00:57.18 | ckknight | didn't mean to spam newlines |
| 00:57.18 | ckknight | still |
| 00:57.21 | ckknight | bullshit, imo |
| 00:58.17 | Torhal | ckknight: BWAH! |
| 01:01.15 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: email? |
| 01:01.24 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWfetF1jCO4# |
| 01:01.25 | ckknight | WoWI message |
| 01:01.41 | Arrowmaster | you dont even keep your stuff on wowi updated |
| 01:02.56 | ckknight | <.< |
| 01:02.57 | ckknight | >.> |
| 01:02.58 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: it came up lastnight, if wowi had some sort of api key like curseforge does, would you add a feature to upload a zip directly from curse to wowi? |
| 01:03.12 | ckknight | actually, I think Seerah does a wonderful job of handling my WoWI addons |
| 01:03.29 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, but probably only if they provided the same feature |
| 01:03.50 | ckknight | so that it'd be just as easy the other way around |
| 01:03.52 | Seerah | ckknight: Is that sarcasm I detect? ;) |
| 01:03.57 | ckknight | Seerah: no |
| 01:04.11 | ckknight | Seerah: I'm both appreciative and lazy. |
| 01:04.17 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: you should convince dolby then |
| 01:04.25 | ckknight | I pinged him and he didn't pong |
| 01:04.26 | ckknight | :P |
| 01:04.33 | ckknight | Seerah: are you still updating my WoWI addons? |
| 01:04.53 | ckknight | I honestly don't care one way or another |
| 01:04.59 | Seerah | I got lazy, then you updated them, then I stopped worrying about it ;) |
| 01:05.00 | thul | that video is priceless. |
| 01:05.03 | thul | btw, I have wow again |
| 01:05.05 | thul | i can play again |
| 01:05.07 | ckknight | Seerah: I don |
| 01:05.09 | Seerah | but that was a while ago |
| 01:05.10 | thul | i can guildraide and wtfpwn in pvp |
| 01:05.14 | ckknight | Seerah: I don't remember doing that :P |
| 01:05.15 | thul | I CAN PWN N00BS!!! |
| 01:05.24 | ckknight | thul: grats |
| 01:05.41 | Seerah | if you want me to keep doing it, I'll check for updates every so often |
| 01:05.48 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 01:06.11 | ckknight | I'm gonna go play WoW... |
| 01:06.13 | Seerah | I didn't know what you had decided about keeping them updated there or not |
| 01:06.16 | Seerah | :) |
| 01:06.41 | ckknight | Seerah: curse doesn't pay me anything to keep them out of date or nonexistent there |
| 01:06.51 | Seerah | hehe |
| 01:06.54 | ckknight | so the reason they're out of date/not there is sheer laziness |
| 01:06.57 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: you see my message about fubar license? |
| 01:07.04 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:07.07 | Seerah | I know |
| 01:08.23 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1718 ARLFrame.lua: Fix babble error. |
| 01:09.12 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r55 / (4 files in 2 directories): --some toc prop wrangling |
| 01:09.15 | Repo | --popup background and column color options |
| 01:09.18 | Repo | --new currencies |
| 01:14.11 | Ackis | is in a REALLY FUCKING FOUL MOOD |
| 01:14.35 | waallen | broker-currency's font is ugly, I wish you could change it somehow |
| 01:14.45 | durcyn | use moneytrail |
| 01:15.24 | Stanzilla | reminds me to tell [Ammo] that moneytrail errors on new chars |
| 01:15.41 | waallen | it looks cool |
| 01:16.38 | waallen | I'll try that tomorrow; since we are at it, is there any addon that's similar to CooldownButtons? I am basically looking for something that tracks cooldowns and displays them in the ICON+TIMER format without bars |
| 01:18.04 | durcyn | oCD |
| 01:18.34 | waallen | checking |
| 01:21.30 | Dark_Elf | hehe the babble error must not got fixed since hes mad |
| 01:22.35 | Arrowmaster | babble error? |
| 01:23.48 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r5317 Ulduar (7 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: |
| 01:23.51 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update Ulduar module. |
| 01:23.52 | Dark_Elf | gonna say satrina buff frame for the cooldownbuttons too lol perhaps im biased |
| 01:23.56 | pompy | no its about this http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/498-r1717-no-no-libs-feature-negatively-impacts-performance/ |
| 01:26.44 | Dark_Elf | looks like a disgrunted wowmatrix virus user to me |
| 01:26.45 | ckknight | lol wut |
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| 01:33.16 | Hirsute_ | That was... amazingly dumb, right there. |
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| 01:40.11 | Codayus | That bug report makes my head hurt. |
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| 01:41.10 | rubik | ughh.. crash on character load after installing 3.1.1.. this is going to be fun to troubleshoot.. bah |
| 01:42.53 | Repo | 10libquixote-2-0: 03Kemayo * r79 LibQuixote-2.0/LibQuixote-2.0.lua: Fix possible nil error |
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| 01:51.41 | Hirsute | I mean, if he wanted the option to disembed, I can understand, but to take the opportunity to take a crack at the WoWMatrix decision while he was at it.... dur dur dur. |
| 01:53.27 | Kaelten | Hirsute:? |
| 01:53.53 | Hirsute | Kaelten? |
| 01:54.14 | Hirsute | I was away for a while, it was in regard to a problem ticket linked above: |
| 01:54.25 | Hirsute | http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/498-r1717-no-no-libs-feature-negatively-impacts-performance/ |
| 01:55.22 | Kaelten | heh |
| 01:56.45 | Kalroth | oi Kaelten, just the dude I wanted to annoy with bugs |
| 01:57.21 | Kaelten | oh? |
| 01:57.25 | Kaelten | *runs away! |
| 01:57.26 | Kalroth | http://capnbry.net/wow/downloads/WeaponQuickSwap-39.zip is being recognized as Titan Panel in the updater client thingy. |
| 01:57.26 | Kaelten | * |
| 01:58.22 | Kaelten | yeah it's showing up as a best match..... |
| 01:58.23 | Kaelten | odd |
| 01:58.54 | Kalroth | I've just ignored the addon, but I guess it's worth fixing anyhows |
| 01:59.07 | Arrowmaster | that addon still works? |
| 01:59.10 | Kalroth | Yup |
| 01:59.22 | Kalroth | Hell, I even use an older version of it, v37 |
| 01:59.25 | Arrowmaster | and its probably because titan panel has a weapon swaper thingy in it |
| 01:59.38 | Kaelten | Kalroth: tossing it to the addonservice developer |
| 01:59.44 | Kalroth | danke |
| 02:00.28 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: not in the version on Curse |
| 02:00.39 | Kaelten | unfortuntunely he's slammed getting ready to launch premium |
| 02:00.46 | Kaelten | so it may not get attention until then |
| 02:00.51 | Kaelten | :s |
| 02:00.54 | Kaelten | which sucks and is ironic |
| 02:01.19 | Kalroth | but then it's even better to annoy him with bugreports, us freeloaders will have a premium account for longer |
| 02:01.43 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:01.49 | Kaelten | enjoy the rest of the week man |
| 02:02.00 | Kaelten | unless we find a blocker we're launching premium next week |
| 02:02.07 | Hirsute | Kaelten: Please allow me to bug you with a bug as well: http://library.thinkquest.org/C002727/spider.jpg |
| 02:02.14 | Hirsute | >.> |
| 02:02.16 | Kalroth | It doesn't mean much to me, I don't trust automatic updates just yet :p |
| 02:02.19 | Kaelten | Hirsute: thanks |
| 02:02.38 | Kaelten | Kalroth: no worries |
| 02:02.42 | Kaelten | just saying. |
| 02:02.53 | Arrowmaster | isnt that disablable? |
| 02:02.59 | Kaelten | if you want a preview of the non premium experiance I can tell you a special user/pass |
| 02:04.22 | Kalroth | I assume it'll be pretty much the same except with a banner in the top, no automatic updates and a background process scanning my browser for site statistics to sell to advertisers |
| 02:04.42 | Kaelten | well two out of three are true |
| 02:04.57 | Kalroth | ponders for a moment. |
| 02:05.04 | Kalroth | Ooh, my bad |
| 02:05.09 | Kalroth | The banner will be in the bottom, right?! |
| 02:05.13 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:05.19 | Kaelten | well kinda |
| 02:05.28 | Kaelten | but the untrue portion was the third :P |
| 02:05.32 | Kalroth | I know :) |
| 02:05.44 | Kaelten | I'll launch it up and screenshot it |
| 02:05.49 | Kaelten | it's not that bad |
| 02:06.25 | Kaelten | gotta load it up on windows though |
| 02:06.30 | Kaelten | the mac users are getting an extended preview |
| 02:06.32 | Kalroth | I'm an european communist, all american capitalist-pig companies are bad! |
| 02:06.33 | Kaelten | since it's still in beta |
| 02:06.47 | Kalroth | Aye, assumed as much |
| 02:07.19 | Kalroth | Different development trees then? You didn't find some fancy crossplatform to make it? |
| 02:07.56 | Arrowmaster | they could always recode it in Runtime Revolution! that works on Windows Mac and Linux! |
| 02:08.04 | Kalroth | haha |
| 02:08.26 | Kaelten | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/5f43061627195e9ad4eb3832f247cc77.png |
| 02:08.32 | Kaelten | no worse, we have a cross platform library |
| 02:08.33 | Kaelten | that sucks |
| 02:08.54 | Arrowmaster | wxWidgets or something else? |
| 02:08.57 | Kalroth | I've been messing a bit with FreePascal Lazarus, it's decent for small GUI applications, but anything advanced and you're fucked |
| 02:09.02 | Kaelten | no it's wxwidgets |
| 02:09.14 | Kaelten | routinely spend a few hours debugging developed on the opposite platform |
| 02:09.27 | Kaelten | in general it doubles the time spent on any new development |
| 02:09.28 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: didnt we delete autosave? |
| 02:09.32 | Kalroth | That's not that bad |
| 02:09.54 | Kalroth | The screenshot, that is |
| 02:09.57 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: yeah, probably, I've not touched those addons in a while |
| 02:10.11 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: autosave was a private server addon |
| 02:10.28 | Kaelten | was it... |
| 02:10.29 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:10.35 | Kaelten | well look at the game name |
| 02:10.35 | Kalroth | haha |
| 02:10.36 | Arrowmaster | look at the code |
| 02:10.47 | Kalroth | I knew it, Kaelten runs a private server! |
| 02:10.51 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:11.04 | Arrowmaster | if it does SendChatMessage(".save","SAY") or something then yeah |
| 02:11.48 | Kaelten | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/46417724929de1aa21328f897aa3fd3b.png |
| 02:11.56 | Kaelten | there we go that ones better, hehe |
| 02:12.07 | Kaelten | doh, |
| 02:12.09 | Kalroth | No :P |
| 02:12.11 | Kaelten | only half better |
| 02:12.15 | Kalroth | lol |
| 02:12.48 | Arrowmaster | wtf is that |
| 02:12.53 | Kaelten | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/d295b6ba75e62eb75f71922cb1e8eeac.png |
| 02:12.55 | Kaelten | there we go |
| 02:12.57 | Kalroth | Also use ALT+PrintScreen, that way you don't have to cut the taskbar with manporn away! |
| 02:13.00 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 02:13.06 | Arrowmaster | are you running it inside a vm on osx? |
| 02:13.14 | Kaelten | yes |
| 02:13.15 | Kaelten | :D |
| 02:13.32 | Kaelten | Kalroth: Cmd-Shift-4 ;) |
| 02:13.35 | Kalroth | haha at the icon name |
| 02:13.40 | Kalroth | "Faker WoW" |
| 02:13.44 | Arrowmaster | but it still puts the notification in the corner? |
| 02:13.57 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: yeah |
| 02:14.11 | Kaelten | Kalroth: one of my test addon folders |
| 02:14.18 | Kaelten | "Fake WoW" has 900 addons at last count |
| 02:14.27 | Kaelten | but at least I know it stays usable |
| 02:14.28 | Kalroth | ah |
| 02:14.56 | ajmitch | those icons look somewhat familiar |
| 02:15.36 | Kaelten | ajmitch: ? |
| 02:16.45 | ajmitch | the tango icons |
| 02:17.06 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:17.09 | Kaelten | yeah, they're good icons |
| 02:17.10 | ajmitch | it just feels strange seeing them in something on windows |
| 02:17.41 | Kaelten | Firefox uses them too |
| 02:19.17 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/viewpic.php?pic_id=71 |
| 02:19.21 | Groktar | there ya go ping |
| 02:19.40 | Kaelten | Anyone up for helping me localize stuff? |
| 02:19.49 | Groktar | oops, wrong channel |
| 02:19.59 | Kaelten | nice, lol |
| 02:20.15 | Kalroth | Kaelten: Depends, I can localize to danish and very little swedish! |
| 02:20.31 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 02:20.34 | ckknight | Kaelten: how're you localizing? |
| 02:20.36 | Kaelten | don't think that's on the list of locales |
| 02:20.39 | Kaelten | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/onecore/localization/ |
| 02:20.42 | ckknight | oh, okay |
| 02:20.43 | ajmitch | can only manage en_NZ at that :) |
| 02:20.47 | ckknight | lol, ajmitch |
| 02:20.59 | Kaelten | I had onebag in nbNo before |
| 02:21.04 | ckknight | Kaelten: you're not localizing the client, then :P |
| 02:21.09 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: is moving to Qt really the only option for good mac support? |
| 02:21.26 | Kaelten | ckknight: no, but the Qt version would be able to be supported that |
| 02:21.27 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no, it could be rewritten in Obj-C using Cocoa |
| 02:21.36 | ckknight | <.< |
| 02:21.38 | ckknight | >.> |
| 02:21.47 | Kalroth | oooh, Cocoa |
| 02:21.56 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: the selection of crossplatform c++ libraries is... limited |
| 02:22.12 | Kalroth | UI libraries* |
| 02:22.15 | Kaelten | And on consideration, porting AceGUI to C++ didn't see valid. |
| 02:22.25 | Arrowmaster | i know wxWidgets makes good windows interfaces but my experience with Qt/Gtk on windows has been rather bad |
| 02:22.44 | ckknight | Gtk on Windows is bad |
| 02:22.47 | Arrowmaster | but i dont know if its gotten better |
| 02:22.48 | Kalroth | That would have been cool though, a client coded in Lua and rendered in DirectX/OpenGL. |
| 02:22.52 | ckknight | Qt on windows isn't that bad at all, especially Qt4 |
| 02:22.55 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: really? I tseems decent all in all. |
| 02:23.10 | Kaelten | Kalroth: "now launching our Client addon section on curseforge!" |
| 02:23.11 | ckknight | Kaelten: Qt3 had some issues with theming on Windows for a while |
| 02:23.45 | Kaelten | ckknight: yeah qt3 has a good chunk of issues |
| 02:24.05 | Kaelten | ckknight: going to want to add support to the localization app for outputting in qt's format though |
| 02:24.16 | Kalroth | Google Earth is made with Qt! |
| 02:24.24 | ckknight | Kaelten: no issue there. |
| 02:24.31 | ckknight | Kaelten: I think it's a good idea |
| 02:24.31 | Kaelten | Kalroth: yeah, as is skype iirc |
| 02:24.41 | Kaelten | ckknight: yeah, I don't think it'll be difficult |
| 02:24.43 | Arrowmaster | more politics related but gtk seems to be getting a lot more use on linux than qt, and with qt now being owned and controlled by nokia the future does seem a little uncertain |
| 02:24.55 | Arrowmaster | Kalroth: really? |
| 02:25.01 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 02:25.04 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 02:25.08 | Kalroth | http://www.qtsoftware.com/qt-in-use/target/desktop |
| 02:25.09 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: really? It seems to be promising, they're opening it up further |
| 02:25.11 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I disagree, with it being owned by Nokia, I think it has a brighter future |
| 02:25.20 | ckknight | especially since they LGPL'd it |
| 02:25.26 | Arrowmaster | although last time i tried to install google earth i blue screened |
| 02:25.32 | Kalroth | lol |
| 02:25.32 | Kaelten | I did a code count, qt4.5's source download is 3.3million lines of code |
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| 02:25.41 | Jamash | :-O |
| 02:25.51 | Kalroth | oh, VLC uses Qt too |
| 02:25.59 | Kaelten | it has some 750k lines of comments |
| 02:26.04 | Kaelten | it's nuts |
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| 02:26.11 | Moddington | wait, what's this? |
| 02:26.13 | Kalroth | Comments are for pussies, real developers reads the code |
| 02:26.21 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: oh they did? i know there was an agreement when they bought it that if they ever started charging for it or abandoned it then it would automatically become open source again |
| 02:26.23 | Kaelten | Moddington: hrm? |
| 02:26.24 | Kaelten | which this? |
| 02:26.28 | Kilroo | Hmm...I'm almost certain at some point I saw an LDB addon that was supposed to work with Blizzards item set feature. |
| 02:26.36 | Moddington | this thing that has 750k lines of comments |
| 02:26.55 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: you can still buy a full licenses if LGPL isn't good for you, but yeah, the curse client would be using the LGPL version |
| 02:26.57 | Arrowmaster | Kalroth: VLC has its own issues completely unrelated to Qt though |
| 02:26.58 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no, it's that it can _never_ be closed with Trolltech's acquisition. |
| 02:27.02 | Kaelten | Moddington: Qt4.5 |
| 02:27.18 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: Nokia decided to instead of dual-licensing as GPL/QPL, they triple-license it as LGPL/GPL/QPL |
| 02:27.34 | Kaelten | ckknight: er, I thought QPL got canned |
| 02:27.35 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: ok yeah thats what it was |
| 02:27.42 | ckknight | Kaelten: nah, technically it's still there. |
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| 02:28.35 | Kaelten | maybe, just know it's not mentioned on the licening page anymore |
| 02:28.50 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 02:28.52 | ckknight | meh |
| 02:28.52 | Arrowmaster | i just remember there was a lot of drama about it when it happened and an agreement that if it ever goes closed source then their ownership of it became void for the last open source version or something |
| 02:28.55 | ckknight | QPL's lame anyway |
| 02:29.02 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: correct. |
| 02:29.11 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: and instead of closing it, they opened it up more. |
| 02:29.24 | Arrowmaster | they can still close it though |
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| 02:29.32 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: they really seem to be pushing for it to become as ubiquitous as possible. |
| 02:29.34 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: not retroactively. |
| 02:29.43 | ckknight | and actually, no, they can't close it |
| 02:29.48 | ckknight | as part of the acquisition agreement. |
| 02:30.10 | Kaelten | I wonder if I can get netcurse to localize french fo rme |
| 02:30.17 | ckknight | probably. |
| 02:30.25 | Kilroo | Thurr 'tis. Just can't use it. |
| 02:30.31 | ckknight | omelette du fromage |
| 02:30.38 | ajmitch | given that nokia sell that hardware to run Qt apps on, it makes sense for them to get people using it |
| 02:31.02 | Kaelten | ajmitch: yep |
| 02:31.15 | Kaelten | back to an earlier question, I'd love to be doing the client in cocoa and obj-c |
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| 02:31.18 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: right but they are considered the owners i thought and can close it for new versions but that voids their ownership of the previous versions back to the previous owner allowing them to resume from that point and have ownership powers too allowing to resell or change the future license too, it was something complex i know and i probably got it wrong |
| 02:31.20 | Kaelten | day dreams |
| 02:31.58 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: It makes little business sense for Nokia to close it, since they want to make Qt more ubiquitous, not less. |
| 02:32.13 | ckknight | and from what the devs have said about it, I'm pretty confident in it |
| 02:32.39 | Kaelten | ckknight: now to just figure out why the code I wrote earlier is 500ing cf's server |
| 02:32.39 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:32.47 | ckknight | magic? |
| 02:32.50 | ckknight | yea, I dunno |
| 02:32.58 | Moddington | anyone know how frames reference their actual C frame object? eg. when you call a C function belonging to a frame, how does it know which frame to apply the function to? |
| 02:33.03 | Arrowmaster | so whats with wxWidgets bad mac support then? i thought it was really good win/linux cross dev? |
| 02:33.28 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: yeah win/linux seems pretty good |
| 02:33.36 | Kaelten | mac support is _shitttttttty_ |
| 02:34.00 | Arrowmaster | Moddington: theres a userdata object on index 0 of the frame table, none of the functions that use frames for arguments actually care about the table you give it just the userdata on index 0 |
| 02:34.17 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5318 Ulduar/Auriaya.lua: BigWigs: Ulduar/Auriaya: bugfix |
| 02:35.12 | Moddington | hmm, alright, but FYI I'm not looking into this for a WoW mod, but a separate, unrelated C *coughgamgcough* project |
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| 02:35.34 | Arrowmaster | Moddington: i actually created something small in the past that replaced a frame table with a proxy table so i could modifiy one function of the frame in a specific usage but not globally |
| 02:35.38 | Kaelten | gamg? |
| 02:35.44 | Moddington | Game =P |
| 02:35.58 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 02:36.08 | Arrowmaster | Moddington: userdata in lua is what you want to look at then |
| 02:36.17 | Moddington | alright, thanks |
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| 02:37.47 | Moddington | heh, I might drop a link on the general forumz when we (read: I) go into open beta, but that won't be for another half year at least |
| 02:38.20 | Kaelten | hehe |
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| 02:39.42 | Moddington | bah, dc, did anyone query about my last statement? (I really need to get a new router =P ) |
| 02:40.47 | ckknight | oh hey, Kaelten |
| 02:40.52 | ckknight | we now have <<quote>> support |
| 02:41.00 | ckknight | we're half-way to building a forum, amirite? |
| 02:41.11 | Kaelten | heh |
| 02:41.14 | Kaelten | need sigs next |
| 02:41.20 | Kaelten | and comment attachements... |
| 02:41.27 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:41.39 | Kaelten | whistles innocently |
| 02:43.48 | Kaelten | ckknight: http://addon.hotwow.com/addon/addon_276.html |
| 02:45.09 | ckknight | it's GPL |
| 02:45.25 | Kaelten | I know they're hosting non gpl stuff |
| 02:45.30 | Kaelten | so you might want to check for some other ones |
| 02:45.42 | ckknight | hmm |
| 02:47.39 | Kaelten | wasn't it Wobin who did mrplow |
| 02:48.20 | Wobin | wutwut? |
| 02:48.28 | Wobin | I thought it wasn't on that site |
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| 02:48.35 | Kaelten | not sure about that |
| 02:48.41 | Kaelten | I was just trying to refresh my memory |
| 02:48.46 | Wobin | ugh, worst site to search ever |
| 02:48.54 | ckknight | Señor Plow no es macho, Es solamente un borracho |
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| 02:50.25 | Wobin | Kaelten: only references to MrPlow are from OneBag |
| 02:50.41 | Kaelten | but um, I wasn't worried about that site |
| 02:50.56 | Kaelten | I'm thinking about implementing a simple sorting plugin for ob3 |
| 02:51.07 | Wobin | oh, you don't want MrPlow then =P |
| 02:51.14 | Kaelten | oh? |
| 02:51.14 | Wobin | I switched it to using coroutines |
| 02:51.20 | Wobin | and it's anything but simple =( |
| 02:51.24 | Kaelten | coroutines? |
| 02:51.27 | Kaelten | my gods man why? |
| 02:51.35 | Wobin | cause it's -so fast- it's crazy |
| 02:51.59 | Kaelten | well considering I'm not going to be moving items |
| 02:52.05 | Kaelten | I think mine should be pretty fast |
| 02:52.25 | Wobin | well you can certainly borrow the actual sorting function if you want |
| 02:52.35 | Wobin | it's the moving that uses the coroutines |
| 02:52.48 | Kaelten | yeah, since all OB really is is a frame manager |
| 02:52.53 | Kaelten | all I have to do is order them differently |
| 02:52.58 | Kaelten | and viola sorted |
| 02:54.13 | Kaelten | Wobin: any objection to me calling it OnePlow |
| 02:54.28 | Wobin | None, go for it =) |
| 02:55.10 | kenlyric | OnePlowKing |
| 02:55.43 | Kaelten | lol wut? |
| 02:56.51 | Arrowmaster | http://addon.hotwow.com/addon/addon_43.html |
| 02:56.54 | Arrowmaster | heh |
| 02:56.58 | Arrowmaster | the details are wrong |
| 02:58.04 | Kaelten | Wobin: btw |
| 02:58.04 | Kaelten | self:Print(L["Mr Plow is facing"].." ".. L["backward."]) |
| 02:58.10 | Kaelten | is bad for localization |
| 02:59.21 | Wobin | it was a long time ago =) |
| 02:59.44 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 03:02.38 | Arrowmaster | hmm hotwow.com and wowdb.net are hosted in china even though wowdb.net is clearly korean |
| 03:02.59 | Arrowmaster | i thought the korean mmo players hated the chinese |
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| 03:09.52 | Groktar | performs a surprise lewd act |
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| 03:15.40 | Moddington | oooh, void pointers |
| 03:15.46 | Moddington | you learn something new every day =D |
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| 03:21.22 | Mytos | whats a good replacement for cowtip |
| 03:22.03 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5319 Ulduar/Auriaya.lua: |
| 03:22.06 | Repo | BigWigs: Ulduar/Auriaya: Fix Defender. has only first appeared SPELL_AURA_APPLIED. Life will be verified through SPELL_AURA_REMOVED_DOSE since. |
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| 03:29.11 | Moddington | hehe, looks like I'll be using, as the userdata, void pointers to inherited classes |
| 03:29.17 | Moddington | this could get mighty confusing, real fast |
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| 03:37.21 | Mytos | whats a good replacement for cowtip |
| 03:38.17 | Groktar | i've used startip before |
| 03:38.22 | Groktar | tinytips |
| 03:42.03 | BWMerlin | seems the latest patch fixed tradelinks |
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| 03:53.33 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r180 / (13 files in 2 directories): |
| 03:53.36 | Repo | [*]Core: Initial support for registering events when from mob yells. |
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| 04:35.18 | LoialOtter | Xinhuan: i need a little info of the internals of HandyNotes |
| 04:35.18 | Xinhuan | hmm? |
| 04:36.16 | LoialOtter | i'm trying to add handynotes to the HUD i'm working on... I noticed the iconpath value (looking at updateminimap) can be a table, how is that used? |
| 04:37.26 | LoialOtter | wait... i think i might have it... it's for rotation and colour setting of icons |
| 04:37.39 | Xinhuan | its for setting texcoords and other stuff |
| 04:37.46 | Xinhuan | assuming you don't want the defaults |
| 04:38.15 | LoialOtter | cool... thanks |
| 04:38.24 | LoialOtter | nodnods |
| 04:38.32 | Xinhuan | the code should be fairly self-explanatory which fields are used |
| 04:38.46 | LoialOtter | ya, i should've read it a little more before asking... |
| 04:39.24 | LoialOtter | does handynotes allow for anything other than icons? |
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| 04:40.42 | Xinhuan | you can send in anything you want for the texture path |
| 04:41.03 | Xinhuan | it'll just be sized down to 16x16 or whatever the icon size is ;p |
| 04:41.17 | LoialOtter | Mmm, no... just icons... the flightpath thing is drawing in manually... |
| 04:41.27 | LoialOtter | cool, thanks again |
| 04:41.53 | Xinhuan | yeah the line drawing is extra stuff |
| 04:44.34 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth 04v3.01.01.14 release * r56 : Tagging as v3.01.01.14 release |
| 04:44.46 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: updated hanynotes_flightmasters yet? |
| 04:44.53 | Xinhuan | oh hey good reminder |
| 04:45.11 | Xinhuan | i am just browsing http://wowmb.net/forums/f23/33714-wowmatrix_takes_hit/ |
| 04:45.12 | Xinhuan | atm |
| 04:45.13 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 04:45.27 | Xinhuan | appears to me most warlocks are now aware and disapprove wowm |
| 04:45.38 | Fisker- | i lol'd @ Exorcism |
| 04:45.50 | Xinhuan | most posts in it are sane |
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| 04:58.28 | Wobin | bah |
| 04:58.36 | Wobin | stop pointing out more WM threads |
| 04:59.38 | Xinhuan | there's really nothing wrong with that one ;p |
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| 05:07.00 | Fisker- | harasses Wobin |
| 05:07.04 | Fisker- | how far is mr. plow coming eh? |
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| 05:25.13 | LoialOtter | Sweet! i now have Handynotes working with my HUD |
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| 05:29.56 | Maelos` | Is there any way to increase the width of grid without increasing the height? |
| 05:30.08 | Maelos` | Or is it just one scale option? |
| 05:30.22 | Moddington | quick poll, just out of curiousity, how many people here only play WoW because they like to tinker with mods? |
| 05:30.51 | mojosdojo | Marlos: yes, there is an option |
| 05:31.25 | mojosdojo | oh, i mean.. Maelos` |
| 05:31.50 | mojosdojo | not supposed to type in the morning |
| 05:32.01 | Wobin | http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/niels_diffrient_rethinks_the_way_we_sit_at_work.html <-- I want this chair |
| 05:32.13 | Wobin | Moddington: If it weren't for addons, I'd've quit wow years ago |
| 05:32.47 | Moddington | nice, and wow, double contraction |
| 05:33.03 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 05:34.17 | Wobin | WoW as a game is interesting enough |
| 05:34.23 | Wobin | however, I'm not a hardcore raider |
| 05:34.24 | Fisker- | Wobin! |
| 05:34.29 | Fisker- | takes out a knife |
| 05:34.38 | Wobin | Sorry Fisker, I'm ignoring the question =) |
| 05:34.46 | Fisker- | :( |
| 05:34.49 | Fisker- | stop it! |
| 05:34.54 | Wobin | Fisker-: Do you have a lot of tradeskill bags? |
| 05:35.01 | Fisker- | 0 |
| 05:35.08 | Fisker- | tradeskill bags are for fags |
| 05:35.11 | Fisker- | (that rhymes) |
| 05:35.18 | Wobin | Then let me commit, and you grab that version |
| 05:35.28 | Fisker- | :O |
| 05:35.31 | Wobin | it'll do theworks just fine on nontradeskill bags |
| 05:35.35 | Fisker- | ninjahugs Wobin |
| 05:36.46 | Repo | 10mr-plow: 03wobin * r111 PlowEngine.lua: Commit for Fisker, it'll work well enough with no tradeskill bags |
| 05:37.19 | Wobin | Fisker-: barring any .pkgmeta problems I haven't actually looked into, that should work |
| 05:37.28 | Fisker- | gonna check |
| 05:39.55 | LoialOtter | I am on WoW both for playing and developing mods, i like both |
| 05:40.35 | Moddington | I myself only played WoW for mod development for a couple months, then tried to get to max level |
| 05:41.22 | Moddington | WotLK came out just before I hit 70, then when I hit 73(?) I gave up, so I don't play any more at all |
| 05:41.42 | Moddington | still love WoWAce though =D |
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| 05:49.13 | Maelos` | mojosdojo: Hmm any idea where the option is? |
| 05:50.13 | mojosdojo | Maelos`: no, not right now, realms are down, but it exists |
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| 05:56.37 | Maelos` | found it thanks |
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| 06:02.50 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5320 Ulduar (3 files in 1 directory): koKR Update |
| 06:06.46 | orionshock | <3 Load Out of Date Addons flag... |
| 06:06.59 | orionshock | seriously screws with me tonight.. |
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| 06:08.49 | orionshock | does anyone know if tekkub is going to update quecho? |
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| 06:26.26 | Antiarc | What should I use rather than GarbageFu? |
| 06:30.37 | Wobin | dropthecheapestthing works for me |
| 06:30.49 | Wobin | but really, I use Tek's |
| 06:31.00 | Wobin | for autoselling of greys |
| 06:31.10 | nevcairiel | yeah, grey-selling is like 10 lines of code |
| 06:31.39 | Wobin | DTCT is good for making bagspace |
| 06:31.50 | Wobin | although since the ammo changes, it's been like I'm not a -real- hunter =P |
| 06:31.55 | Wobin | cause I actually have heaps of bagspace =P |
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| 06:33.35 | Toadkiller | Maelos`: the width of grid depends on the width of a frame... make the frame width wider. |
| 06:34.36 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4_aurabar/. PitBull4_AuraBar. vaeyl (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
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| 06:45.00 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r5321 Ulduar (3 files in 1 directory): deDE updates |
| 06:50.05 | NeoTron | ayriaya is a bitch |
| 06:50.08 | NeoTron | dang |
| 06:50.22 | nevcairiel | she isn't! |
| 06:50.28 | nevcairiel | her cats are |
| 06:50.29 | nevcairiel | <.< |
| 06:50.54 | Hjalte | Watched the tankspot video? http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f206/48802-ulduar-auriaya.html |
| 06:51.21 | nevcairiel | Once we got the cat-pull done, she like died the next try |
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| 07:03.35 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03NevetsNeirbo * r94 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 07:03.38 | Repo | Changed the way raiders still on the waitlist are removed from snapshot data. |
| 07:03.41 | Repo | Added a broadcast to guild every 30min while tracking the waitlist. |
| 07:03.44 | Repo | Added rank checking for attendance checks. |
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| 07:12.17 | NeoTron | fine her cat is |
| 07:12.22 | NeoTron | we can't get the pull down right |
| 07:12.29 | NeoTron | and doesn't help taht thre tank goes offline :P |
| 07:13.23 | Hjalte | We ended up having the MT stand in line of sight, pull everything with a guardian spirit on and once the cats had come to him, then we'd have offtanks pull them off. |
| 07:15.50 | Hjalte | Can authors hide alpha and beta versions of their addons for users? |
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| 07:16.49 | Kemayo | Wobin: Amusingly, I wrote dtct intending for it to be *just* the drop-the-cheapest-grey bit from GarbageFu... but I think I've expanded it to handle all the other useful bits too. |
| 07:17.02 | NeoTron | does debuffs to off when guardian spirit procs? |
| 07:17.54 | Hjalte | NeoTron: I'm not sure, but we were able to keep him alive even though all the cats jumped on him. We had hunters MD cats off him to help. Three tanks total, two cats for each and MT had boss. |
| 07:18.06 | Axodious | weee sonikku of orgrimmar |
| 07:18.06 | Axodious | ~_~ |
| 07:18.07 | purl | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 07:18.10 | Axodious | ~_~_~_~ |
| 07:18.44 | Axodious | 4 more weeks, 4 more titles |
| 07:18.46 | Axodious | >_> |
| 07:19.41 | Wobin | Hjalte: yes |
| 07:19.53 | Wobin | Hjalte: they can set it to only package on release version |
| 07:19.54 | Wobin | s |
| 07:20.17 | NeoTron | good pull and she does her fucking fear right before aoe wiping us |
| 07:20.24 | NeoTron | that's like random fucking unavoidable wipes |
| 07:20.25 | NeoTron | I hate those |
| 07:20.29 | Wobin | I've heard some interesting tactics to pull her =P |
| 07:20.37 | Wobin | like two hunters with soulstones =P |
| 07:20.47 | Wobin | or Army Of the Dead |
| 07:20.53 | Wobin | (to give more pounce targets) |
| 07:20.58 | Axodious | we 1 shot mim tonight, made me happy |
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| 07:24.48 | NeoTron | it was just us failing it seems |
| 07:26.54 | Repo | 10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * v3.3.2 config.lua: [+1 commit] Error for config if an item wasn't cached |
| 07:27.00 | Repo | 10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 04v3.3.2 * b50e980 /: [new tag] Tagging v3.3.2 |
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| 07:30.46 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: How is one supposed to update ItemPrice-1.1? |
| 07:31.16 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 07:31.35 | Kemayo | It's missing new items from 3.1 |
| 07:31.53 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 07:31.59 | Arrowmaster | i guess i could update it |
| 07:33.02 | Arrowmaster | if i had the prices |
| 07:33.47 | Kemayo | If you tell me a format you'd like them in, I can get them for you. |
| 07:34.07 | Arrowmaster | yaml |
| 07:34.22 | Kemayo | As "itemid: copper"? |
| 07:35.54 | Arrowmaster | i have to figure out where my scripts are |
| 07:36.03 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r171 / (3 files in 2 directories): [GearSet] added Tier 8 |
| 07:36.06 | Repo | [dataminer] fixed mining for GearSet.Ahn'Qiraj.40.Warrior.Conqueror's Battlegear |
| 07:37.45 | orionshock | ping Torhal: u ever get an error out of wine like "Failed to open H:/Games/WoW/Data/Interface/Icons |
| 07:39.54 | Arrowmaster | Kemayo: i can not find my scripts |
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| 07:42.54 | Torhal | orionshock: Yes. chmod 750 it |
| 07:43.07 | orionshock | what the wow folder? |
| 07:43.46 | Torhal | The whole path. It may give the same error for H:/Games/WoW/Data/Interface after that, chmod again |
| 07:44.21 | Torhal | I spent about 45 minutes fixing directory permissions altogether |
| 07:44.29 | Torhal | Mostly in the addons dir, though |
| 07:44.37 | Torhal | But you did a clean-room approach |
| 07:44.47 | orionshock | could i bribe you to make a script for me :) |
| 07:45.00 | Torhal | I didn't use one, so don't have one :) |
| 07:45.20 | orionshock | >.> |
| 07:45.36 | orionshock | i don't have an interface/icons directory |
| 07:45.39 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r5322 Ulduar (6 files in 1 directory): Ulduar: frFR Update |
| 07:45.43 | Torhal | Just use ls, anything that's highlighted green is a dir with improper perms |
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| 07:45.55 | Torhal | Hrm |
| 07:46.22 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03Elkano * r257 / (10 files in 2 directories): - fixed WoTLK deposit names |
| 07:46.25 | Repo | - removed Babble-2.2 OptDep |
| 07:46.27 | Repo | - added Tier 8 sets |
| 07:46.36 | orionshock | Torhal: what about files? |
| 07:47.04 | Torhal | I just use "chmod -x *.*" unless there are *.exe files, then I do *.extention |
| 07:47.23 | Torhal | Only executables should be executable, basically |
| 07:47.42 | Elkano | btw, Torhal, is there a good tutorial for using QTip with LDB, especially QTipClick? Meaning that the tooltip shall stay open when I try to get the mouse over it |
| 07:48.29 | Torhal | Elkano: Thought I had one written up...lemme see |
| 07:49.01 | Torhal | BTW: ANyone who wants to see how tekkub has utterly destroyed WoWMatrix, go here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26681170@N03/3465217912/sizes/o/ |
| 07:49.09 | Elkano | especially if the scrolling branch makes it into main, that will be usefull for many coders ^^ |
| 07:49.27 | Maelos` | Is there a recommended/standard way to roll upsaved vars into an addon for initialization of a new UI? |
| 07:49.30 | vhaarr | orionshock: find wow/ -type d -exec chmod a-x {} \; |
| 07:49.33 | tekkub | I wouldn't call it "utterly destroyed" |
| 07:49.35 | Torhal | Elkano: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libqtipclick-1-0/pages/ldb-data-object-usage/ |
| 07:49.45 | tekkub | I'd call it "pointing out shit to the user |
| 07:50.00 | vhaarr | orionshock: or chmod recursively, like chmod -R a-x+X wow/ |
| 07:50.11 | Torhal | s/utterly destroyed/ustterly destroyed the credibility of/ |
| 07:50.16 | Torhal | Bah |
| 07:50.19 | Elkano | ah, it was hidden in QTipClick's section ^^ |
| 07:50.32 | Torhal | vhaarr: The uppercase R means directory-only? |
| 07:50.55 | vhaarr | no, but none of the files need to be executable |
| 07:50.57 | Torhal | Elkano: Yah, most people don't care if it stays open for regular tips |
| 07:51.03 | vhaarr | -R means recursive |
| 07:51.13 | Elkano | well, unless we add scrolling ^^ |
| 07:51.32 | orionshock | vhaarr: then in the wow/ dir i can set all the *.exe to executable.. as the only useful / needed programs are there. |
| 07:51.35 | Torhal | vhaarr: I thought -r was recursive. Anyway, wouldn't that destroy the proper bitmask for directory perms? |
| 07:51.35 | orionshock | right? |
| 07:51.48 | Torhal | Elkano: True. |
| 07:51.58 | vhaarr | Torhal: +X |
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| 07:52.13 | vhaarr | Torhal: but no, -r is nothing |
| 07:52.17 | Torhal | kk |
| 07:52.29 | Elkano | hope someone gets to play around with my code for that ^^ |
| 07:52.33 | Torhal | orionshock: Correct |
| 07:52.37 | Torhal | chmod +x *.exe |
| 07:52.42 | orionshock | yay |
| 07:52.51 | orionshock | hopefuly now wow will stop crashing on me :| |
| 07:53.02 | Torhal | Elkano: How about this: I slap you in as an author and let you fold your stuff in? |
| 07:53.11 | orionshock | thanks vhaarr and Torhal |
| 07:53.24 | Torhal | I keep saying I'll take a gander, but I haven't yet and I don't believe you're going to fuck the lib up |
| 07:53.36 | Elkano | Torhal, I would like to see it tested by someone first ^^ haven't written a single QTip addon, yet |
| 07:53.54 | Torhal | Ok, lemme pop my lenses out and write up a test case |
| 07:54.29 | Elkano | since maybe the API still needs a bit tuning and it's not that good to change the API of the trunk over and over again ^^ |
| 07:55.23 | Repo | 10skg: 03Zhinjio * r130 SKG_Globals.lua: SKG : |
| 07:55.26 | Repo | - update addon visible versioning |
| 07:58.33 | durcyn | eh, chmod with gnu fiddly bits should permit -r |
| 08:02.36 | Arrowmaster | man page says nothing about -r though |
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| 08:06.00 | NeoTron | we're close on the cat bitch but not there |
| 08:06.04 | NeoTron | 40% |
| 08:06.29 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss * r45 / (12 files in 3 directories): Added RSwapper3 Data Broker (Titan Panel) feature. |
| 08:06.33 | Repo | Functionality of RSwapper3 no longer depends on localization. |
| 08:06.36 | Repo | Corrected Locale files so they are not all marked as the default. |
| 08:07.08 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.1.0.3 beta * r46 : Tagging as v3.1.0.3 beta |
| 08:08.01 | Torhal | Elkano: SetTipSize(width, height) - is width necessary, since the column layout would determine that? |
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| 08:10.35 | Torhal | Ah, ok, intended to be an internal func |
| 08:10.48 | Elkano | yeah |
| 08:10.58 | Repo | 10gnome-dust: 03lilsparky * r34 / (2 files in 1 directory): removed "randomseed" function call |
| 08:11.57 | Torhal | Scrollbar should auto-appear, aye? |
| 08:12.06 | NeoTron | figured the pull out. I just put DnD and run far away |
| 08:12.07 | Xinhuan | anyone have problems with wow exiting randomly to desktop |
| 08:12.08 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 08:12.11 | NeoTron | only issue is that I tend to die :P |
| 08:12.11 | Torhal | I made a 240-line tooltip which cuts off at the bottom of the screen mid-line around line 77. |
| 08:12.47 | Torhal | Xinhuan: I sometimes do since 3.1, but I run Linux. |
| 08:12.47 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r40 / (3 files in 1 directory): added new spell data for 3.1.1 |
| 08:12.50 | Repo | fixed nil error in link updating routine |
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| 08:15.36 | durcyn | Xinhuan: with or without a crash report? |
| 08:15.40 | Repo | 10skg: 03Zhinjio 043.1.5-alpha * r131 : Tagging as 3.1.5-alpha |
| 08:15.41 | Xinhuan | without |
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| 08:16.43 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03Elkano * r258 SetsGear.lua: fixed T8 set names |
| 08:17.03 | Torhal | Yah, just locks and exits, as though it were told to or you hit ALT-F4 |
| 08:17.22 | Torhal | Elkano: ^^ |
| 08:18.54 | Elkano | Torhal, no scrollbar is NOT on auto |
| 08:19.17 | Torhal | Aha |
| 08:19.24 | Elkano | you've got to call tooltip:UpdateScrolling() after all content was set |
| 08:19.31 | Repo | 10skg: 03Zhinjio 043.1.6-beta * r132 : Tagging as 3.1.6-beta |
| 08:19.33 | Torhal | kk |
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| 08:21.41 | Torhal | Elkano: Ok, works for the most part - the anchoring doesn't quite work for such a large tooltip, though...pushes the top above where (I would think) it should |
| 08:22.17 | Torhal | And if you accidentally mouse out, when you go back the scrollbutton is in the same position it was before. |
| 08:23.39 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: http://davidlynch.org/wow/prices_31.yaml |
| 08:23.39 | Torhal | ...which is not a bad thing. I'd be pissed if I had to start over scrolling |
| 08:23.44 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky 04r40beta * r41 : Tagging as r40beta |
| 08:24.11 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Are you reading this? :) |
| 08:26.33 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: Oh, wait, you said you couldn't find the scripts. Oh well. :) |
| 08:26.56 | Arrowmaster | Kemayo: hmm i just found the damn scripts and yaml file of the db |
| 08:27.07 | Zhinjio | Torhal: yes |
| 08:27.45 | Kemayo | Well, I hope the yaml I put together is somewhat compatible. |
| 08:27.49 | Torhal | Elkano: Ok, major problem. Other QTips get wiped out, it seems. |
| 08:27.53 | Arrowmaster | Kemayo: do you have item names too? |
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| 08:28.50 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Extractor is using QTip, aye? |
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| 08:29.02 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 08:29.04 | Kemayo | I don't... but I can get them, if you need them. |
| 08:29.11 | Zhinjio | and working just peachy for me |
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| 08:29.13 | Arrowmaster | where are you getting the data from? |
| 08:29.29 | Zhinjio | including after cache wipe like today |
| 08:29.36 | Torhal | Zhinjio: That is the only QTip-based addon which works after using a scrolling one. |
| 08:29.42 | Kemayo | I just copied things from wowhead's "new items in this patch" page. |
| 08:29.44 | Repo | 10cromulent: 03phyber 04v1.3 * 50fcced /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.3 |
| 08:29.48 | Torhal | All the others I have are wiped. |
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| 08:29.52 | Torhal | Blank tips |
| 08:30.04 | Torhal | The scrollbar-enabled one and Extractor work fine though |
| 08:30.10 | Torhal | Weird. |
| 08:30.10 | Zhinjio | well, I'm not going to tag anything to grab the scrolling one then |
| 08:30.19 | Torhal | Yah, needs work. |
| 08:30.35 | Torhal | Conceptually, works fine, but I believe it's stepping all over the frame heap |
| 08:30.39 | Zhinjio | I assume you didn't update your mainline to use it yet, or did you? |
| 08:30.39 | Torhal | No. |
| 08:30.41 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 08:30.52 | Elkano | I just stopped him from telling me to do so ^^ |
| 08:31.05 | Torhal | Well, we explicitly tell people not to grab from trunk, so... |
| 08:32.07 | Torhal | I just don't understand how Extractor is still working :) |
| 08:32.14 | Torhal | Unless it has something to do with the textures. |
| 08:32.24 | Torhal | Which is still weird since it's using the same frameheap |
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| 08:33.11 | Zhinjio | extractor is da bomb. |
| 08:33.26 | Zhinjio | and your pithy little scrolling qtip will not be its master. |
| 08:33.39 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 08:34.18 | Arrowmaster | Kemayo: http://arrowmaster.net/items.yaml theres the current db |
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| 08:35.42 | Elkano | Torhal, shouldn't you rather wonder why the others stopped working? |
| 08:39.13 | Torhal | Elkano: Same issue. Why does that one work? Probably the same reason the others don't :) |
| 08:39.59 | Torhal | Appears to only happen after the scrollbar is used. Just for shits and giggles, I added UpdateScrolling() to Broker_Currency and its tip is still nuked |
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| 08:42.03 | Torhal | Anywho, I need sleep badly. |
| 08:42.11 | Torhal | G'night. |
| 08:43.56 | theoddone33 | anyone know of a mod that times your downtime in raids? |
| 08:44.04 | theoddone33 | keeps track of it somehow |
| 08:44.39 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r159 / (3 files in 3 directories): YurrCombatLog: |
| 08:44.42 | Repo | - added tooltip descriptions to EoT, DroT and EoL |
| 08:45.34 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: It takes PyYAML an impressively long time to load that db. |
| 08:45.52 | Arrowmaster | Kemayo: well it is over a meg |
| 08:46.07 | Arrowmaster | ruby does it extremely fast |
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| 08:48.34 | Arrowmaster | Kemayo: i have a ruby script to merge two yaml files of that format into one, so i just need the new stuff in that format preferably |
| 08:49.01 | Repo | 10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio * r62 .pkgmeta: BTC: |
| 08:49.04 | Repo | - fixed improperly embedded libqtip |
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| 08:49.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5323 Ulduar/Kologarn.lua: |
| 08:49.14 | Repo | BigWigs: Ulduar/Kologarn: Add Crunch Armor. help for tanker change. |
| 08:50.31 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: Too late, I already merged them http://davidlynch.org/wow/items_mod.yaml |
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| 10:36.27 | pakoz | morning |
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| 11:07.04 | Repo | 10n-quest-log: 03StijnH * r237 / (2 files in 1 directory): nQuestLog: |
| 11:07.07 | Repo | - Fixed Quixote-1.0 in .pkgmeta |
| 11:07.10 | Repo | - Updated some ToC fields |
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| 11:13.20 | StijnH | When I do my code changes manually on the last 'release' version, everything works. When I commit them on SVN and download that package, I'm getting this error (and some others): |
| 11:13.21 | StijnH | Message: ...stLog\libs\LibBabble-Zone-3.0\LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua line 14: |
| 11:13.22 | StijnH | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:15.52 | Tamaroth | uhm |
| 11:16.04 | SunTsu | StijnH: Forgot to include that lib? |
| 11:16.11 | Tamaroth | because there's no embeded lib in svn version? |
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| 11:18.53 | StijnH2 | got disconnected there |
| 11:19.50 | Tamaroth | embed a lib |
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| 11:21.17 | SunTsu | StijnH: You have to include your lib via .pkgmeta |
| 11:21.30 | SunTsu | the one that is missing, that is |
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| 11:24.23 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r48 / (3 files in 1 directory): new version |
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| 11:25.03 | StijnH | ok |
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| 11:28.23 | Arrowmaster | StijnH: if you dont know what you are doing, you shouldnt be messing with already existing projects |
| 11:28.38 | StijnH | I'm still learning :) |
| 11:28.45 | StijnH | It was an abandoned project |
| 11:28.56 | Arrowmaster | and quixote-1.0 is dead |
| 11:29.23 | StijnH | I know, the addon hasn't been properly updated for about half a year |
| 11:29.31 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 11:29.48 | StijnH | But I'll look at changing to 2.0 later, was just fixing the URL to the repository, it was wrong |
| 11:29.53 | Arrowmaster | you should just let it die since you are going to need to recode a lot of it to get it even working |
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| 11:30.16 | Arrowmaster | its better to start new than try to fix broken stuff you dont understand |
| 11:30.28 | StijnH | Yeah been thinking of that |
| 11:35.38 | Repo | 10bison: 03Grayal * r49 / (3 files in 1 directory): new version |
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| 11:48.20 | sylvanaar | has bigwigs bossblock been updated for 3.1? anyone know |
| 11:50.00 | Pneumatus | for the new chatfilter system? |
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| 11:52.59 | sztanpet | works for me |
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| 12:03.20 | Mikk | wait wait wait... new chat filter system? i missed something |
| 12:04.17 | nevcairiel | you missed 3.1? |
| 12:04.26 | nevcairiel | well they just "fixed" the old system |
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| 12:11.18 | sylvanaar | he knows |
| 12:13.03 | sylvanaar | its gotta be bigwigs + something. Idk, i finally got the issue where you cant see your eg. loot you master looted |
| 12:14.23 | sylvanaar | i had that problem all night last night - couldnt see loots, and i was ML |
| 12:20.03 | sylvanaar | select(1,...) |
| 12:20.08 | sylvanaar | ... |
| 12:20.12 | steev | morning |
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| 12:20.41 | krka | i prefer select(1, select(1, ...)) |
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| 12:24.24 | Repo | 10fishermans-friend: 03Nevcairiel * r77 FishermansFriend.lua: Fix using lures on an item you have equipped |
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| 12:28.31 | Mytos | mornin |
| 12:29.00 | Mytos | is there a way to set a keybind to switch talents, and if not is there a way to do it in a macro? |
| 12:29.30 | nevcairiel | ./usetalents 1 |
| 12:29.33 | nevcairiel | or 2 |
| 12:29.37 | nevcairiel | in a macro |
| 12:29.41 | nevcairiel | dunno about keybinds |
| 12:30.24 | Mytos | how would i go about putting in a [button] modifier, ? |
| 12:30.55 | nevcairiel | Like any other macro i would guess |
| 12:31.02 | nevcairiel | ./usetalents [button:1]1;2 |
| 12:31.26 | Elkano | wasn't tthere even a conditonal to check the current talent spec? |
| 12:34.48 | Mytos | ok, if im in my primary talents and i use that macro it lets me switch to secondary, but after that it does nothing |
| 12:34.55 | Stanzilla | [spec:1] |
| 12:35.23 | Mytos | oh wait, nevermind my bad LOL |
| 12:35.47 | Mytos | i had another macro in that spot with a smiliar icon on my second set of bars LOL |
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| 12:47.39 | Ironhand | I realize this is probably a long shot, but I may as well try asking... is there any way of temporarily freezing the on-screen nameplates (default Blizz, Aloft, or who knows even another addon) in place? I find it quite difficult to click the nameplate I want fast enough when mobs are moving |
| 12:48.52 | Mytos | not that i know of |
| 12:49.06 | Mytos | is aloft even maintained anymore? |
| 12:49.22 | Ironhand | I think there's a version being maintained on wowinterface |
| 12:50.04 | Ironhand | though I personally stopped using it as it didn't provide me with much I needed beyond the default nameplates |
| 12:51.47 | Funkeh` | I don't think the launcher updater will ever work for me |
| 12:52.09 | Funkeh` | same old: execute, download update file, ask for admin, ask for internet access, self terminate |
| 12:52.21 | robotusch | yeah |
| 12:52.45 | robotusch | I've gone back to just waiting for the 10% to finish & then launch the downloader itself from the wow dir |
| 12:52.56 | Funkeh` | same |
| 12:52.59 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 12:54.19 | Mytos | argggggg |
| 12:54.29 | Mytos | where does my guild keep finding these bad warriorsssssssss |
| 12:54.32 | Mytos | and whyyyyyyyyyy |
| 12:54.59 | phyber | i just use the "get patch from a mirror" technique and skip all of the bittorrent nonsense. |
| 12:55.30 | Pneumatus | a.wirebrain.de/wow usually :) |
| 12:55.34 | Funkeh` | phyber, my torrenting downloads in seconds |
| 12:55.38 | Funkeh` | why would I want to skip it |
| 12:55.56 | phyber | Pneumatus: yeah, nice mirror :) |
| 12:56.12 | StijnH | Is there any license that says "you can rename this and claim it as your project if you do major code changes, but you can't if the code changes are small" ? I'm tempted to just pick the MIT license cause I don't care that much about it, but just wanted to check.. |
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| 12:56.57 | Pneumatus | all rights reserved, and then delegate derivitive to anyone that asks you? |
| 12:58.05 | orionshock | my addons run with a variation on MIT, effectively you can use the code anyway you want. But I own the name and the "official" distribution of the code under that name. I feel it suits what i need. |
| 12:58.28 | phyber | Funkeh`: i guess it's ok if you have a nice internet connection :) |
| 12:58.49 | Funkeh` | meh it's alright, but torrenting is one of the few ways I can max it |
| 12:58.59 | Funkeh` | that and valve's awesome updating servive |
| 12:59.07 | Funkeh` | service* |
| 12:59.25 | phyber | my connection is fine, but i don't have enough upstream to let people leech bits of patches from me for however long it takes to complete. |
| 12:59.30 | phyber | not if i want to use it in that time anyway |
| 13:00.07 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r49 / (6 files in 2 directories): |
| 13:00.10 | Repo | Utopia: Removed pre-3.1 compatibility code. Basic options to select which icons to show, plus an automatic mode which shows what is probably of interest to your class and role (More and better config for this to come). Fixed a couple of talent triggers. |
| 13:00.33 | Pneumatus | same here, upstream gets raped and the download tanks |
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| 13:02.21 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 13:02.30 | Funkeh` | never really paid much attention to upstream |
| 13:02.37 | Funkeh` | didn't really affect me |
| 13:07.09 | nevcairiel | i just download all notabily big patches from a mirror |
| 13:08.39 | orionshock | wow either you guys suck at understanding how bit torrent works, or you got crappy ISP's >.> |
| 13:09.09 | orionshock | i open one port on my router and it works flawlessly, usually downloads at ~75% of my download rate. |
| 13:09.44 | krka | surely you all limit your upstream for torrents O_o |
| 13:10.14 | StijnH | only thing you really have to do with most routers is limit the number of connections, then you should be fine. + limit upstream |
| 13:10.31 | Funkeh` | why would you need to open a port |
| 13:10.36 | Funkeh` | blizz has upnp in there |
| 13:10.50 | orionshock | Funkeh`: my router dosn't do upnp |
| 13:10.52 | orionshock | :| |
| 13:10.58 | Funkeh` | ouch |
| 13:12.13 | orionshock | but it's a solid router |
| 13:12.56 | SunTsu | orionshock: Be glad |
| 13:13.18 | krka | i love my wrt54gl |
| 13:13.23 | krka | it's been rock solid for several years |
| 13:13.51 | Funkeh` | gonna get a new one soon |
| 13:13.55 | Funkeh` | a sexy N |
| 13:14.07 | Funkeh` | and by soon, probably a few years |
| 13:14.44 | Bruners | our cisco something does the job :P |
| 13:15.22 | orionshock | i've got a 2wire Gateway, works well :) |
| 13:15.33 | Funkeh` | I'm really interested to see how far latency drops with N |
| 13:15.45 | Funkeh` | but then I kep reminding myself I don't have a single N card yet |
| 13:15.58 | Funkeh` | and not sure I cba buying one until I just upgrade the pcs themselves |
| 13:16.54 | orionshock | Funkeh`: latency on N will be about as bad as it is with G.. Besides if you play a low-latency needing game on wifi, you have problems upstairs.... |
| 13:17.27 | Funkeh` | well I don't have problem, but it does seem to be a good 20 or so ms above some of my local friends |
| 13:17.49 | krka | what is this N you speak of? |
| 13:17.58 | orionshock | switch to linux, your latency will drop in half from what it is. |
| 13:18.00 | orionshock | :) |
| 13:18.17 | Funkeh` | pass |
| 13:18.25 | orionshock | lol or mac |
| 13:18.30 | Funkeh` | no chance |
| 13:18.40 | krka | bsd! |
| 13:19.15 | orionshock | for me, on a bad day i get 80ms |
| 13:19.25 | orionshock | on a good day i hover ~15-30ms |
| 13:19.45 | krka | <orionshock> on a good day i hover ~15-30ms <-- that's what she said |
| 13:20.15 | orionshock | ^.^ |
| 13:21.42 | Funkeh` | fx 3.0.9 |
| 13:21.43 | Funkeh` | ffs |
| 13:21.46 | Funkeh` | 3.1 givf |
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| 13:28.03 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: 3.1 is 3.5 now |
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| 13:35.52 | Funkeh` | I'm bouncindg between chrome fx and opera |
| 13:35.56 | Funkeh` | back to x at the moment |
| 13:35.58 | Funkeh` | fx |
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| 13:44.22 | Kaelten | wow |
| 13:44.26 | Kaelten | this guy is fail |
| 13:44.31 | Kaelten | "anonaddonauthor" |
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| 13:45.41 | krka | gief context |
| 13:45.45 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:46.23 | Kaelten | http://www.curse.com/articles/curse-en-news/437537.aspx |
| 13:46.29 | Kaelten | fitth or sixth post down |
| 13:46.31 | Zhinjio | G'morning Kaelten |
| 13:46.34 | Kaelten | heya zhin |
| 13:47.07 | orionshock | Kaelten: ckknight said to ask you about something... |
| 13:47.19 | ckknight | descriptive |
| 13:47.26 | Kaelten | "With all that being said, I am an addon author myself. My addons will never be hosted on your site because you want to block people from getting my addon. " |
| 13:47.46 | orionshock | Kaelten: i was wondering what exactly the command line was for CC that will open a PSYN link, im trying to make FF and CC work togeather under linux |
| 13:47.51 | ckknight | Kaelten: troll imo |
| 13:47.56 | SunTsu | Kaelten: Then be glad |
| 13:48.04 | Kaelten | ckknight: yeah my thought too, or ewolson |
| 13:48.19 | Kaelten | orionshock: should just be client.exe "url" |
| 13:48.20 | SunTsu | ckknight: Did you look into packager's git changelog? |
| 13:48.31 | ckknight | SunTsu: what about it? |
| 13:49.01 | orionshock | that could make things easier... thanks Kaelten |
| 13:49.13 | SunTsu | ckknight: Ah, I wrote something to you some hours earlier. All my commits since that fail have no changelog at all |
| 13:49.15 | Kaelten | ckknight: great, I can still make the server blow up |
| 13:49.36 | ckknight | Kaelten: lame. |
| 13:50.17 | Kaelten | ckknight: your script, was it using zusername? |
| 13:50.21 | Kalroth | owned! |
| 13:50.37 | ckknight | Kaelten: no |
| 13:50.43 | Kaelten | I owneth ye Kalroth! |
| 13:50.43 | ckknight | Kaelten: it was using me |
| 13:50.49 | Kaelten | ckknight: try using zusername |
| 13:50.57 | Kaelten | just out of curiosity |
| 13:51.15 | Kalroth | zkknight |
| 13:51.28 | Kalroth | it sounds more elite too |
| 13:52.15 | orionshock | or someone who fat-fingered the keyboard >.> |
| 13:52.37 | Kalroth | fat-fat-fingered, my z is 2 keys away from c |
| 13:52.45 | Kalroth | and for germans it's like 15 keys away |
| 13:52.59 | Kaelten | Kalroth: get a new keyboard then, your's is broke |
| 13:53.10 | ckknight | Kaelten: works, got the api key. |
| 13:53.22 | Kaelten | W....T....F.... |
| 13:53.43 | Kalroth | Kwaltrn: Ni, mu kwybprf id qorkunh judt fune |
| 13:53.59 | Mytos | LOL |
| 13:54.04 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r50 Utopia.lua: |
| 13:54.05 | steev | so... anyone know a way to get your character to finally show up on armory? |
| 13:54.07 | Repo | Utopia: Fixed a memory usage issue, was updating roster forever, doh. Changed the fading in/out hover button to the new animation system. It's got a glitch the first time you hover over Utopia's frame and I'm not sure yet whether that's a bug with wow or me. I'm putting my money on WoW though. If you want to look at it, the groups are created at line 1093 onwards. The fadeout works fine, but the fade in doesn't fade the first time, just pops on. And, I |
| 13:54.10 | Kalroth | It even breaks my nick complete :( |
| 13:54.22 | steev | i hit northrend last night and im still not showing up |
| 13:54.32 | steev | i've logged in and out multiple times, as well as reloaded ui |
| 13:54.43 | steev | logged in from multiple locations/computers as well |
| 13:55.03 | Kalroth | steev: I believe it only syncronizes new characters when it feels like it, so anywhere between 1 hour and 3-5 days. |
| 13:55.18 | steev | Kalroth: ... |
| 13:55.21 | Kalroth | It updates existing characters quickly, but it takes time for new characters to arrive |
| 13:55.24 | steev | i hit *northrend* last night |
| 13:55.40 | Kalroth | Sure, I got a level 1 alt in Dalaran! |
| 13:55.48 | steev | Kalroth: level 68, hows that |
| 13:56.03 | Kalroth | What class is your character? |
| 13:56.10 | steev | *cough*dk*cough* |
| 13:56.14 | Kalroth | Aha, so that's why |
| 13:56.16 | Mytos | considering that the realm servers are busted and needing to be rollinged every night, i think theyre more worried about those than the useless armory |
| 13:56.35 | Kalroth | There's too many Death Knights on the armory, you'll have to wait in line until someone deletes or abandons their Death Knight. |
| 13:56.46 | steev | that shouldn't take long with the 3.1 nerfs |
| 13:56.52 | Kalroth | haha |
| 13:57.05 | Mytos | yea it will, theyre still overpowered |
| 13:57.15 | Kalroth | http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo313/JoramAsh/stuff/QuitComplainingAboutYourJob4.jpg |
| 13:57.48 | EvilJohn | Kalroth! |
| 13:57.55 | EvilJohn | faster than me |
| 13:57.59 | Kalroth | I knows, I stole it from you! |
| 13:58.03 | EvilJohn | hehe |
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| 13:58.50 | Kaelten | ckknight: what headers are you sending? |
| 13:59.58 | Trela_ | tries a few FuBar like LDB displays, goes back to FuBar. |
| 14:00.49 | ckknight | User-Agent: Thingy/0.1\nAccept: application/x-protobuf,text/plain,*/*\nAccept-Encoding: gzip\nContent-Type: application/x-protobuf |
| 14:01.13 | Bruners | slaps Trela_ |
| 14:01.22 | Trela_ | =;-;= |
| 14:01.25 | Trela_ | Why?! |
| 14:01.32 | ckknight | I need to integrate Broker2FuBar into FuBar. |
| 14:01.33 | steev | oooh protobufs |
| 14:01.34 | orionshock | trela try chocolate |
| 14:01.38 | ckknight | but I'm lazy |
| 14:01.45 | ckknight | and/or busy |
| 14:01.49 | Trela_ | I did, Orion. |
| 14:01.52 | Kalroth | whips ckknight. Gently. |
| 14:01.58 | Bruners | ckknight: why really? |
| 14:02.09 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r201 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
| 14:02.09 | ckknight | Bruners: so that it'd have native broker support |
| 14:02.13 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 14:02.15 | orionshock | trela, what did u think? |
| 14:02.22 | ckknight | steev: they're nice |
| 14:02.22 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r207 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 14:02.24 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 14:02.27 | Trela_ | After getting a clock stuck to my mouse pointer and menus not closing I decided it needs more time to get better. |
| 14:02.27 | Bruners | ckknight: no need when it's already working ? :P |
| 14:02.37 | steev | ckknight: so i hear, i'd like to use them.... i just don't have a use for them yet |
| 14:03.31 | Bruners | @project chocolate |
| 14:03.32 | Repo | Bruners: No project found that matches 'chocolate' |
| 14:03.41 | Trela_ | @project ChocolateBar |
| 14:03.42 | Repo | Trela_: http://www.wowace.com/projects/chocolatebar/. ChocolateBar (Broker Display). Game: WoW. yess (Manager/Author). Updated: 36 hours ago. Tickets: 1/18 |
| 14:03.46 | Kaelten | ckknight: I'm only sending content type atm |
| 14:03.50 | Kaelten | I wonder if that has something to do with it |
| 14:03.56 | ckknight | Kaelten: yes. |
| 14:04.02 | ckknight | very likely |
| 14:04.08 | ckknight | it's not valid without the other headers |
| 14:04.12 | ckknight | especially Accept |
| 14:04.35 | ckknight | put Accept-Encoding: none if you don't have gzip support |
| 14:05.17 | Kaelten | hrm there's a Qt ruby |
| 14:05.30 | Kaelten | yeah not sure if I do or not |
| 14:06.00 | ckknight | ruby? |
| 14:06.11 | Kaelten | QtRuby |
| 14:06.25 | ckknight | hmm |
| 14:06.26 | ckknight | fun |
| 14:06.47 | Trela_ | The clock stuck to the mouse pointer was fixed by changing a few options, but if you lock the bar and use ALT+Click to drag, instead of the "chocolate" dropping back on the bar you are left with an object stuck to the mouse pointer. It prevents you from clicking the environment and only does its own functions. :O |
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| 14:09.07 | ckknight | Kaelten: it makes sense that it's blowing up now, since Apache looks at Accept-Encoding and such. That's a pretty low level ;-) |
| 14:09.56 | orionshock | u 2 messing around with the WoWI updater? |
| 14:12.16 | ckknight | orionshock: mmm... no |
| 14:12.31 | orionshock | ^.- |
| 14:12.42 | orionshock | ok... ^.^ :) |
| 14:13.14 | ckknight | orionshock: especially seeing as we're both Curse employees |
| 14:13.18 | ckknight | and we have our own updater |
| 14:13.19 | ckknight | :P |
| 14:14.51 | quiescens | spies! |
| 14:15.11 | Kaelten | ckknight: well, um, still blew up |
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| 14:16.53 | Mytos | could be worse |
| 14:16.54 | Mytos | could be matrix |
| 14:17.13 | yoshimo | free your mind , mytos |
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| 14:22.03 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: I fixed bigwigs for the filters early in the PTR cycle, they work fine |
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| 14:28.50 | vhaarr | so, anyone else getting random lockups after 3.1.1? |
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| 14:29.47 | haste | I'm getting crashes with memory allocation errors with wine |
| 14:29.51 | haste | that's about the only thing |
| 14:30.04 | vhaarr | mine doesn't crash, it just locks up randomly |
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| 14:30.10 | vhaarr | for like a minute+ |
| 14:30.27 | haste | might be my nvidia drivers that causes the issue here |
| 14:30.40 | vhaarr | you running the latest 180.51 or what it is? |
| 14:30.58 | vhaarr | I've been meaning to try it with 2.6.30rc3 and those, to see if it could fix the lockups |
| 14:31.00 | haste | *checks to be certain* |
| 14:32.22 | haste | I so need a new keyboard :( |
| 14:32.32 | haste | I have 185.19 installed |
| 14:32.43 | vhaarr | aha |
| 14:32.53 | haste | running on 2.6.29-rc7-zen1 |
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| 14:33.23 | haste | and wine 1.1.19 |
| 14:33.41 | steino | vhaarr: i got one in dalaran! |
| 14:33.50 | steino | but thats normal |
| 14:33.50 | steino | :D |
| 14:33.53 | vhaarr | so it's not just me then, yeah it seems to happen in dalaran only |
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| 14:34.29 | vhaarr | I'm running 2.6.28 with 180.44 and wine 1.1.19 |
| 14:35.33 | ckknight | Kaelten: weirdness. |
| 14:35.37 | vhaarr | I'll try 2.6.29 first |
| 14:35.45 | Kaelten | weirder, I figured out how to get it to work |
| 14:35.47 | waallen | can you disable the armor repair man icon while using Sexymap? I can't find anything for it for the life of me in case it's possible |
| 14:35.52 | ckknight | Kaelten: what was it? |
| 14:35.53 | Kaelten | odd, I still have no idea why it'd 500'd the server |
| 14:36.05 | Kaelten | not sure what difference it made in the request |
| 14:36.19 | Kaelten | but doing data.buffer() instead of data was enough to make it work |
| 14:36.29 | ckknight | hmm |
| 14:39.25 | ckknight | probably sent a malformed request |
| 14:39.34 | ckknight | the server was like "lol wut, bukkits!" |
| 14:39.34 | Repo | 10libtourist-3-0: 03Starinnia * r85 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 14:39.37 | Repo | Uncomment Ulduar related lines since the instance exists now |
| 14:39.40 | nevcairiel | one of you guys skipping office or why do you chat on irc? =P |
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| 14:39.58 | ckknight | yea, I'm working out of the office this week |
| 14:40.21 | nevcairiel | premium still on for monday? |
| 14:40.22 | Kaelten | ckknight: still doesn't explain why it'd get a 500 error like that :s |
| 14:40.28 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: afaik |
| 14:40.31 | ckknight | bucket brigade! |
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| 14:43.28 | Kaelten | yeah wtf is up with that error message |
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| 14:50.59 | nevcairiel | Anyone know if you can like cheat the iron council encounter by getting them all down to like 20% and then start killing them off, shortening the time of their ultimates? |
| 14:51.16 | nuoHep | no. they heal to full |
| 14:51.18 | Pneumatus | no |
| 14:51.20 | Pneumatus | ^^ |
| 14:51.21 | Pneumatus | this |
| 14:51.25 | nevcairiel | i figured they would |
| 14:51.26 | nevcairiel | bah :) |
| 14:51.36 | Pneumatus | we took one to 80% or something the other day just to check |
| 14:51.54 | Fisker- | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
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| 15:09.15 | Wobin | Fisker-: too soon? =P |
| 15:09.54 | Wobin | We were making death ray jokes about a month after Steve Irwin died |
| 15:11.04 | ckknight | well, Steve Irwin is a man to be admired. After all, he died the way he lives: with animals in his heart. |
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| 15:12.06 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 15:12.09 | steev | wow |
| 15:12.15 | steev | you guys waited a month? |
| 15:12.24 | steev | i think i said something along those lines the moment i heard he died |
| 15:12.48 | Wobin | well, we made the requisite "He should have used sunscreen" jokes fairly soon after |
| 15:12.56 | Wobin | but the media only started about a month after =P |
| 15:12.57 | steev | heh |
| 15:13.05 | steev | then again i did the same thing when i heard my mom died |
| 15:13.07 | steev | so *shrug* |
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| 15:26.08 | Bruners | steev: what was the joke about your mom then ? |
| 15:27.03 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03kagaro 04v1.29 * r328 : Tagging as v1.29 |
| 15:29.21 | steev | Bruners: i don't remember, it was a few years ago |
| 15:31.39 | Pneumatus | hmm, glyph mastery books really need to start dropping in price a bit quicker |
| 15:32.08 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1981 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
| 15:32.14 | Bruners | glyph mastery books does what? |
| 15:32.24 | Pneumatus | they need to get cheaper faster :P |
| 15:32.35 | Pneumatus | teaches the new glyphs |
| 15:32.37 | Pneumatus | in 3.1 |
| 15:32.49 | Pneumatus | 50 new glyphs, most of which are crap |
| 15:32.59 | Pneumatus | only learnable from the books |
| 15:33.12 | Bruners | one book with 50 glyphs ? |
| 15:33.14 | Bruners | thats alot |
| 15:33.19 | Arrowmaster | http://rafb.net/p/dboNou53.html http://rafb.net/p/dboNou53.html http://rafb.net/p/dboNou53.html http://rafb.net/p/dboNou53.html http://rafb.net/p/dboNou53.html http://rafb.net/p/dboNou53.html |
| 15:33.28 | Pneumatus | each book tranis 1 random glyph out of the pool of 50 |
| 15:33.31 | Pneumatus | *trains |
| 15:33.46 | Bruners | aha |
| 15:34.12 | Bruners | and you can get the same glyph twice ? |
| 15:34.26 | Pneumatus | nah |
| 15:34.37 | Pneumatus | but you still need to buy 50 books to learn the whole lot |
| 15:34.48 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r24 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed the Ignored Items list view. |
| 15:34.50 | Repo | Added option to add an item to the ignored items list. |
| 15:34.53 | Repo | Removed the current raid overview listing from the first tab of the configuration page. |
| 15:34.57 | Repo | Cleaned up the configuration page a bit more by commenting out unused code. |
| 15:34.58 | Silowyi | is Antiarc around? |
| 15:35.42 | Pneumatus | Arrowmaster: are these patches that wowmatrix are making to old GPLd/etc addons to make their copies work, or what? |
| 15:36.05 | Pneumatus | some of those patches are ancient, like from 3.0 release |
| 15:36.29 | durcyn | they're still modifying the code, period |
| 15:36.38 | Silowyi | Arrowmaster: Do you still maintain FuBar_SpeedFu? |
| 15:36.54 | Arrowmaster | Silowyi: not really |
| 15:37.01 | Arrowmaster | use broker_speed |
| 15:37.11 | Pneumatus | and it looks like they are renumbering tocs, regardless of if they have been updated |
| 15:37.13 | Pneumatus | such complete dail |
| 15:37.16 | Pneumatus | *fail |
| 15:37.29 | Silowyi | Arrowmaster: The astrolabe library is out of date, but there's a new one out already. |
| 15:37.33 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r25 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated Localization. |
| 15:37.35 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: create a new pastey with that curse.com / matrix / carbonite replacement shit in it please |
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| 15:40.03 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5324 Ulduar/Kologarn.lua: Fix crunch armor warnings on Kologarn. |
| 15:40.42 | Silowyi | Arrowmaster: Broker_speed is currently broken, it's not a problem, I updated the Astrolabe library manually, it's just that Curse is now telling me the addon is "out of sync" :P |
| 15:40.55 | Silowyi | for Fubar_SpeedFu |
| 15:41.22 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5325 Ulduar/Kologarn.lua: It's called 'grip', not 'gripe'. |
| 15:41.52 | durcyn | vhaarr: for hard mode Freya, i'd like to make the AOE interrupt a Personal message so flash/shake trigger, then add a 30-second cooldown bar, based on the recast time we saw when testing hard mode last night. you have a preference on either? |
| 15:41.54 | steev | is wmo hosted on an 8086? |
| 15:41.57 | steev | wtf its slow |
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| 15:42.31 | durcyn | it's hosted in red china, man. use worldoflogs. |
| 15:42.34 | vhaarr | durcyn: so it's basically like Ignis? |
| 15:42.56 | durcyn | vhaarr: yep, she gets it if you leave elder stonebark up |
| 15:43.19 | vhaarr | what's the cast time, and is it interruptable? |
| 15:43.23 | durcyn | there's an Attention message as-is, but it's impossible to see |
| 15:43.35 | durcyn | 2 seconds or so, not interruptible, aoe spell lockout if you're casting |
| 15:43.38 | vhaarr | why is it impossible |
| 15:44.02 | durcyn | well, not impossible, but i personally would prefer Personal |
| 15:44.07 | durcyn | hence flash/shake |
| 15:44.13 | vhaarr | yes but melee doesn't give a crap |
| 15:44.27 | durcyn | who plays melee? =) |
| 15:44.34 | vhaarr | what spell is it? |
| 15:44.43 | nevcairiel | i don |
| 15:44.52 | nevcairiel | i don't give a crap about half the announcements |
| 15:44.56 | nevcairiel | they are still in :/ |
| 15:44.58 | durcyn | Ground Tremor, it's already in the module |
| 15:45.06 | vhaarr | I removed some useless things yesterday |
| 15:45.09 | vhaarr | like mines on mimiron |
| 15:45.20 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: if you have other suggestions for removal, tell me, I'd like to nuke 50% of them myself |
| 15:45.27 | Bruners | Fisker-: didnt he shoot himself with a revolver anyway? |
| 15:45.36 | nevcairiel | like range indicator on razorscale, you have to fail pretty hard if that ise useful |
| 15:46.00 | Wobin | Bruners: apparently a shotgun |
| 15:46.14 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: what's that for, chain lightning? |
| 15:46.15 | durcyn | or maybe just a Personal message if UnitPowerType is mana |
| 15:46.19 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 15:46.27 | vhaarr | wow that is useless |
| 15:47.46 | Silowyi | Does anyone know what is causing the TexCoord out of range errors yet? |
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| 15:50.22 | Bruners | maby coords really being out of range? :P |
| 15:50.23 | yoshimo | regarding razorscale, do you still need englisch transcriptor logs for it? |
| 15:50.57 | nevcairiel | if you have one right now, yes |
| 15:51.05 | nevcairiel | if not, i'll create one on todays raid too =OP |
| 15:51.08 | nevcairiel | -O |
| 15:52.19 | yoshimo | no i havent, im using the german client at the moment to translate the last modules of bigwigs |
| 15:52.23 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5326 Ulduar/Razorscale.lua: |
| 15:52.26 | Repo | Remove the proximity window from Razorscale and some other tweaks. |
| 15:53.07 | nevcairiel | if the yells really changed, a new german log would be required too ;) |
| 15:53.43 | vhaarr | durcyn: I would suggest you simply disable the warnings you don't need for now |
| 15:53.50 | vhaarr | durcyn: that will make the ground tremor warning stick out more |
| 15:54.11 | Arrowmaster | what license is bigwigs under? |
| 15:54.28 | vhaarr | BY-NC-SA 2.5 mostly |
| 15:54.36 | Arrowmaster | http://rafb.net/p/WaWIXH29.html |
| 15:54.39 | nevcairiel | it doesnt have a global license |
| 15:54.43 | Arrowmaster | wowmatrix was either hosting it or plans to |
| 15:54.48 | Arrowmaster | its commented out |
| 15:54.51 | nevcairiel | they just licensed their individual contributions |
| 15:54.52 | durcyn | vhaarr: it's a pretty hectic fight, and you're hardly ever targetting the boss when it casts, i'm still not convinced an Attention message is sufficient |
| 15:55.38 | vhaarr | durcyn: a personal one is going too far, you can disable the other warnings that you don't need and blow up the size of the message display frame through the options, for example |
| 15:55.50 | vhaarr | durcyn: I'm not disagreeing with you, but customizations like this is something we're planning for bw3 |
| 15:56.07 | nevcairiel | i just get a text editor for those changes right now |
| 15:56.11 | nevcairiel | ;) |
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| 15:56.20 | yoshimo | nevcairiel, the most recent logfile of razorscale i have is 16 of april |
| 15:56.21 | Bruners | who chooses what addons that are hosted by wowmatrix ? |
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| 15:56.37 | durcyn | vhaarr: i'm patching my local copy anyway, just thought i'd mention it |
| 15:56.42 | vhaarr | yes thank you |
| 15:56.47 | nevcairiel | Bruners: they host any addon that has an license that allows them to |
| 15:56.53 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: "exceptions that need hard-coding (e.g. addons no longer in development)", what is this list? |
| 15:57.36 | vhaarr | I can't see bigwigs in it |
| 15:57.37 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: the list of all the open source addons that wowmatrix has found and is self hosting |
| 15:57.48 | Pneumatus | is that list of stuff thats specifically changed from open source to closed now? |
| 15:57.55 | Arrowmaster | along with the other very few they actually have permission to host |
| 15:58.03 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: no |
| 15:58.23 | nevcairiel | I think that list of addons is somehow special, Arrowmaster |
| 15:58.25 | Arrowmaster | but there are ones in it that changed from open to closed and they have code to restrict it to a certain version |
| 15:58.27 | nevcairiel | and not all addons they host |
| 15:58.38 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: that's fine |
| 15:58.38 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r129 .pkgmeta: changelog fun |
| 15:58.51 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: it is ones they host if it says 'markAsHosted' |
| 15:58.53 | vhaarr | you can't apply licenses retroactively |
| 15:59.05 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: yes, but they host more then those |
| 15:59.14 | Silowyi | How would any closed source liscense be compatible with the wow addon dev policy? |
| 15:59.24 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: that that i have seen |
| 15:59.53 | Xinhuan | Silowyi, why not? |
| 15:59.55 | nevcairiel | Silowyi: open source licenses are not about souce visibility |
| 15:59.58 | vhaarr | but they can't host any BY-NC-SA 2.5 addons either, since they probably fall under "Noncommercial. You may not use this work for commercial purposes." |
| 16:00.04 | nevcairiel | they are more about the freedom of the software |
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| 16:00.22 | Xinhuan | readable code doesn't have the same meaning as copyrights/open source-ness |
| 16:00.27 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: thats probably why its commented out |
| 16:00.33 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r130 TestAlpha.lua: null commit |
| 16:00.34 | vhaarr | ah |
| 16:00.49 | Arrowmaster | -- case "BigWigs" -- CC-A-NC-SA-2.0 |
| 16:01.08 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 16:01.12 | vhaarr | in any case if they distribute it then I don't really mind, it's the leeching off wowace that was bad |
| 16:01.17 | Funkeh` | so if I makr all my addons all rights reserved am I ok |
| 16:01.28 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 16:01.29 | Funkeh` | or do I need to bundle license txt files also |
| 16:01.34 | Silowyi | My point is that, given Blizzard's EULA, ToS, and addon policy, it doesn't seem like addon authors retain any distribution rights. |
| 16:01.36 | Zealin | nevcairiel: so you can tag your addon as All Rights Reserved and there wont be a problem as long as you don't do anything like payed subcription? |
| 16:01.39 | Arrowmaster | although they will continue to host old versions |
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| 16:02.03 | Xinhuan | Silowyi incorrect! |
| 16:02.14 | Xinhuan | you can distrubute it as you please |
| 16:02.17 | Xinhuan | even selling it |
| 16:02.22 | Silowyi | no you can't |
| 16:02.27 | Xinhuan | you can |
| 16:02.33 | Silowyi | 1) Add-ons must be free of charge. |
| 16:02.33 | Silowyi | All add-ons must be distributed free of charge. Developers may not create "premium" versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on. |
| 16:02.35 | Xinhuan | blizzard cannot sue you for selling an addon |
| 16:02.42 | nevcairiel | its your work, your addon, your code |
| 16:02.42 | Xinhuan | they however can block your addon |
| 16:02.46 | nevcairiel | you can do what you please |
| 16:02.47 | Xinhuan | from running in wow |
| 16:02.47 | Silowyi | ah |
| 16:02.48 | Pneumatus | dead horse is dead, that doesnt restrict your distribution rights |
| 16:02.49 | Xinhuan | if you choose to sell it |
| 16:02.50 | Silowyi | I see |
| 16:02.56 | Xinhuan | very big difference |
| 16:03.01 | Silowyi | that makes sense |
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| 16:03.17 | Xinhuan | what their policy says, is a list of requirements for addons to run in their game |
| 16:03.34 | Xinhuan | so it doesn't remove any of your rights |
| 16:03.35 | Funkeh` | again, do I have to bundle a license in my addons now? |
| 16:03.46 | Pneumatus | Funkeh`: if you are using all rights reseved, no |
| 16:03.52 | Funkeh` | good |
| 16:03.58 | nevcairiel | Zealin: I can still hand out individual rights to people, i don't need a fancy license for that. Like by uploading it to Curse i implictly give them the right to ditribute it, and the others of Curse to download and use it. |
| 16:04.06 | yoshimo | i have 4 different different yells of the expedition commander in my logfiles from last thursday. |
| 16:04.21 | nevcairiel | yoshimo: yeah thats the old yells |
| 16:04.27 | Silowyi | Anything I ever created was under the creative commons |
| 16:04.32 | sztanphet | ckknight is there a way to have maintank frames in pb4? |
| 16:04.47 | yoshimo | why do you think they changed them without maintenance? |
| 16:04.56 | Silowyi | do whatever you want with it, and actually I'd prefer you didn't tell anyone who wrote the original code (cause it's probably sucky) |
| 16:04.56 | nevcairiel | the new yells (i saw in 10man, but my log bugged), talk about repairing the turrets after the first fire, and don't repeat the initial yell |
| 16:05.01 | ckknight | yes, sztanpet |
| 16:05.03 | yoshimo | why should they?? |
| 16:05.12 | ckknight | sztanphet: make a raid group, filter to main tanks |
| 16:05.14 | nevcairiel | what do i care, i just saw different yells. |
| 16:05.19 | sztanphet | ckknight thanks <3 |
| 16:05.20 | nevcairiel | and bw didnt work |
| 16:05.35 | yoshimo | so ill get back to that in 2h nevcairiel |
| 16:05.50 | Silowyi | you know if Blizzard is going to create yells and in game emotes for different boss fights |
| 16:05.52 | nevcairiel | might've just been a bug in teh code that used the wrong yell |
| 16:06.01 | Silowyi | they might as well just give you an event to look for |
| 16:06.06 | Silowyi | make the addons simpler to write |
| 16:06.07 | nevcairiel | and they fixed it when they fixed other stuff on the encounter |
| 16:06.26 | nevcairiel | you can just listen for the yells, whats the problem? =P |
| 16:06.38 | Silowyi | BOSS_EVENT > LEVIATHAN_FLAME_JETS or some such |
| 16:06.51 | Silowyi | well that way if they changed the yell, the event would still be there |
| 16:07.01 | Silowyi | and, no parsing |
| 16:07.44 | durcyn | they seem to prefer adding stupid chat messages instead |
| 16:07.54 | nevcairiel | string comparisons are the easiest thing you can do in Lua =) |
| 16:09.33 | Silowyi | except if blizzard keeps changing the yells |
| 16:09.33 | Silowyi | but |
| 16:10.00 | Silowyi | I suppose there's also the very likely situation that, if they change the yells, they might just as easily change the event :P |
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| 16:10.16 | Silowyi | I just have a long time programmer bias against using string comparisons |
| 16:10.49 | Pneumatus | are string comparisons of equal cost to int comparisons in Lua? |
| 16:10.49 | Silowyi | in most of my Ruby code (what I usually work with day to day) I've already moved to symbols. |
| 16:11.00 | Repo | 10flaskminder: 03DigitalSorceress * r2 FlaskMinder (7 files in 1 directory): FlaskMinder: initial commit |
| 16:11.03 | Repo | - FlaskMinder will warn you if you're missing flask/elixir and food buffs. Configurable to check on entering or leaving combat as well as manually. Eventual communication with other users and/or raid leader options. |
| 16:11.15 | Silowyi | lua would have to have some phenomenally inefficient int comparisons if that were the case |
| 16:11.33 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Nevcairiel * r5327 Ulduar/Mimiron.lua: BigWigs: Mimiron: remove unneeded translations |
| 16:11.37 | yoshimo | they yells changed , we need new logs, and thats it. ;) |
| 16:12.36 | ckknight | Pneumatus: string equality is real fast, < or > is far slower. |
| 16:12.37 | nevcairiel | Silowyi: strings are hashed and string variables just contain a reference. Same string, same reference, just compare references. Easy as comparing two ints |
| 16:12.40 | durcyn | lua string compares are extremely efficient |
| 16:13.00 | nevcairiel | static strings ftw |
| 16:13.28 | Pneumatus | for a table key lookup for example, is a string key lookup equally as efficient as an int key? |
| 16:13.38 | sztanphet | its a pointer comparison to be exact because the strings are interned |
| 16:13.44 | sztanphet | yes |
| 16:13.50 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: if both tables are hashes, yes |
| 16:14.20 | Silowyi | nevcairiel: Ah that's similar to how ruby handles it. |
| 16:14.24 | Pneumatus | hmm, when i mess around with the data in ClassLoot i should probaby switch from int to string keys then |
| 16:14.31 | Pneumatus | just to save a few tonumber() calls |
| 16:17.44 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1719 / (5 files in 3 directories): Fixed desert dumplings |
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| 16:23.42 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v3.2.0.1 * r270 : Tagging as v3.2.0.1 |
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| 16:31.55 | Repo | - Hope this was the correct way to do this |
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| 16:43.13 | Xinhuan | Pneumatus, in fact string keys are faster than integer keys ;p |
| 16:43.31 | Xinhuan | since Lua doesn't have to determine if its in the hash or non-hash part |
| 16:44.38 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: foo["1"] take that! it's an integer string!!! ahhhh |
| 16:46.23 | Repo | 10flaskminder: 03DigitalSorceress * r4 FlaskMinder/: FlaskMinder: Still learning Wowace's SVN setup |
| 16:46.24 | mojosdojo | vhaarr: isn't kologarn's crush only supposed to show up, when people have 2 or more stacks? |
| 16:46.27 | Repo | - Sorry for all the commits, but I'm trying to figure out why it's packaging so strangely |
| 16:46.37 | vhaarr | mojosdojo: yes |
| 16:46.39 | mojosdojo | seems like it shows with 1 up too |
| 16:46.49 | vhaarr | it shouldn't |
| 16:47.31 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5328 Ulduar/Kologarn.lua: |
| 16:47.34 | Repo | Make sure we don't show the armor thingy with less than 2 stacks. |
| 16:47.44 | vhaarr | note the "make sure", according to wowwiki it should not have shown with 1 |
| 16:48.05 | mojosdojo | because it only stacks in parts of 2? |
| 16:50.01 | mojosdojo | ah kk, i see |
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| 16:52.13 | Repo | 10chocolatebar: 03yess * r43 Chocolate.lua: |
| 16:52.15 | Repo | fixed dragging chocolates on locked bar should now work as intended |
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| 17:04.51 | DigitalSorceress | Hmm, Judging from the usernames, I did manage to find the right server/channel. Does anyone here have a couple moments to answer a question on tagging and getting externals to work right with the Ace SVN? |
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| 17:06.35 | Torhal | I'm barely awake. WHat's up? |
| 17:07.28 | Torhal | DigitalSorceress: ping |
| 17:07.29 | DigitalSorceress | After finally managing to get SVN to let me import my project, I set up my externals, but when I try the download link, I get a zip file without them in |
| 17:07.41 | NeoTron | use .pkgmeta |
| 17:07.53 | Torhal | Yah, don't use svn:externals |
| 17:08.08 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.08 | DigitalSorceress | oh dear... I followed the KB article advice |
| 17:08.22 | Torhal | http://kb.wowace.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ |
| 17:08.27 | DigitalSorceress | is it just me or is there a LOT of contradictory info on the site? |
| 17:08.33 | Torhal | Shouldn't be |
| 17:08.43 | Torhal | Where did it say to use svn:externals? |
| 17:08.50 | AckisWork | DigitalSorceress: what kb were you following? |
| 17:08.53 | DigitalSorceress | http://old.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners |
| 17:09.01 | Torhal | Notice the first word |
| 17:09.03 | Torhal | OLD |
| 17:09.03 | AckisWork | ahh that's why |
| 17:09.19 | Torhal | Disregard that site for most things. |
| 17:09.31 | Torhal | Use the knowledge-base on the current site |
| 17:09.33 | AckisWork | all current info is at: http://kb.wowace.com/ |
| 17:09.34 | DigitalSorceress | I was so frustrated getting SVN to actually work... |
| 17:09.55 | Fisker- | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:10.11 | DigitalSorceress | it would NOT let me auth until I did the whole SSJ+Svn thing and |
| 17:10.23 | Torhal | DigitalSorceress: Heh, I still don't use ssh with svn because the docs for that didn't work. Kept telling me I had the wrong username or password, so I said fuck it. |
| 17:10.30 | DigitalSorceress | so I was grasping at whatever I could |
| 17:10.44 | DigitalSorceress | Oh, I GOT it working with SSH... couldn't do it NOT ssh |
| 17:10.49 | Torhal | Weird. |
| 17:10.56 | DigitalSorceress | Yeah |
| 17:11.03 | AckisWork | always jump on irc for help, I've told Kaelten to add a mibbit extension to CF/wowace pages |
| 17:11.23 | DigitalSorceress | Well, that's why I came here... was just feeling lost |
| 17:11.47 | DigitalSorceress | Will the pkgmeta stuff help me with stuff like making it so I dont get |
| 17:12.09 | DigitalSorceress | addonname.zip : /addonname/addonname/files. |
| 17:12.14 | Torhal | Yes |
| 17:12.30 | DigitalSorceress | Ok, I will go read up on that |
| 17:12.32 | Torhal | It's like a metatable for your final package |
| 17:12.34 | Torhal | Heh |
| 17:13.53 | DigitalSorceress | Ok, thanks... off to research. Might bug folks later ... |
| 17:14.03 | DigitalSorceress | ty for the nudge in the right direction |
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| 17:17.42 | Torhal | Gagorian: You live? |
| 17:19.40 | Gagorian- | Obviously |
| 17:19.54 | Torhal | But do you play? :D |
| 17:22.21 | ulic | don't forget, he could be an imposter. |
| 17:22.55 | Torhal | ulic: NEVAR! The Internet is full of shiny, happy people. No trolls, ever. |
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| 17:25.50 | ulic | duuuude |
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| 17:37.22 | Repo | 10flaskminder: 03DigitalSorceress * r5 FlaskMinder (3 files in 1 directory): FlaskMinder: .pkgmeta setup |
| 17:37.24 | Repo | - Thanks to some help from the wowace irc folks, I got straightened out on my package stuff... trying it out. |
| 17:39.12 | DigitalSorceress | I fail |
| 17:40.38 | NeoTron | http://worldoflogs.com/reports/HzZE4CHGutaEy1MS/sum/damageDone/?s=4767&e=5008 Embar = blood DK, Morasia = me = 0/10/61 DK. perfect attempt except no kill (mainly neither of us got the debuff and had to stop dps) |
| 17:41.04 | NeoTron | 0/10/61 spec seems to work quite well |
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| 17:41.57 | ilovemrdoe | kittys are mad |
| 17:42.29 | NeoTron | Osita is dominating like everything |
| 17:42.45 | NeoTron | I think even he realized kitties are a bit too powerful atm |
| 17:42.51 | NeoTron | since there really isn't any contest |
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| 17:46.35 | Torhal | DigitalSorceress: Lemme grab your repo and see what's up. |
| 17:47.34 | Repo | 10grid-status-lifebloom: 03Azethoth * r48 GridStatusLifebloom.lua: -- isMine -> caster handling |
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| 17:48.27 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I'm sure a nerf will come |
| 17:49.01 | Repo | 10grid-status-lifebloom: 03Azethoth * r49 GridStatusLifebloom.toc: -- isMine -> caster handling |
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| 17:50.29 | Torhal | DigitalSorceress: DOn't ignore .pkgmeta in .pkgmeta |
| 17:50.32 | Axodious | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/funny-pictures-kitten-says-your-princess-is-not-here.jpg |
| 17:50.35 | Axodious | sfw |
| 17:50.55 | Torhal | DigitalSorceress: Also, package-as, don't use the version number. |
| 17:52.15 | Repo | 10gridstatusmending: 03Azethoth * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- isMine -> caster handling |
| 17:52.18 | AckisWork | Torhal: you can ignore .pkgmeta in your .pkgmeta, it doesn't do anything :P |
| 17:52.35 | Torhal | AckisWork: Which is why she shouldn't do it. It's unnecessary |
| 17:52.42 | Repo | 10gridstatusmending: 03Azethoth 04v3.01.01.03 release * r12 : Tagging as v3.01.01.03 release |
| 17:52.59 | AckisWork | it's not unnecessary, I have it there for completeness and to be clear about what's being ignored |
| 17:53.17 | Torhal | Bah. It's ignored implicitly, so I don't bother with it. |
| 17:53.51 | AckisWork | because defining things explicitly makes them more clear :) |
| 17:54.21 | Torhal | If the end-user is using the SVN, that's their problem. |
| 17:54.26 | Torhal | :D |
| 17:54.33 | Repo | 10grid-status-lifebloom: 03Azethoth 04v3.01.01.05 release * r50 : Tagging as v3.01.01.05 release |
| 17:55.20 | AckisWork | no they make tickets and irk you |
| 17:56.06 | Torhal | ...and should be bludgeoned. |
| 17:57.30 | renchap | how can i display instance maps out of instances ? mapster is quite buggy with this feature |
| 17:57.48 | renchap | and is it a way to display bossloots without using atlas loot/cartographer 2 ? |
| 17:57.51 | Repo | 10grid-status-missing-buffs: 03Azethoth * r71 / (2 files in 1 directory): --isMine -> caster |
| 17:58.01 | Torhal | renchap: No |
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| 17:58.14 | Torhal | It only shows the map with points on it whre the bosses are located |
| 17:58.26 | Repo | 10grid-status-missing-buffs: 03Azethoth 04v3.01.01.05 release * r72 : Tagging as v3.01.01.05 release |
| 17:58.36 | Torhal | I've never tried to look at an instance's map outside of an instance, so I don't know if you can show it |
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| 17:59.19 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1720 / (2 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:59.22 | Repo | - fixed wrong questid for the cooking quest of desert dumplings |
| 17:59.25 | Repo | - corrected color and check state of the disabled reputations |
| 17:59.29 | Repo | - rearranged the wotlk reputations, they now look smooth again |
| 17:59.35 | Torhal | DigitalSorceress: What does your working-copy dir structure look like? I'm getting FlaskMinder/FlaskMinder/etc when I unzip the packaged addon |
| 18:01.04 | Repo | 10gridstatusgrace: 03Azethoth * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): --isMine -> caster |
| 18:01.34 | Repo | 10gridstatusgrace: 03Azethoth 04v3.01.01.03 release * r12 : Tagging as v3.01.01.03 release |
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| 18:06.54 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03Azethoth * r114 GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: --isMine -> caster |
| 18:07.51 | Repo | 10flaskminder: 03DigitalSorceress * r6 FlaskMinder/.pkgmeta: FlaskMinder: .pkgmeta changes |
| 18:07.54 | Repo | - un-ignored .pkgmeta |
| 18:07.57 | Repo | - changed package-as to remove a version number |
| 18:08.32 | DigitalSorceress | My copy id FlaskMinder/FlaskMinder.toc ... etc |
| 18:08.46 | DigitalSorceress | I think I may have put in one too many directories somewhere |
| 18:08.52 | DigitalSorceress | on the svn side |
| 18:10.10 | DigitalSorceress | Do I need to actually inclue the libs dirs in my files? |
| 18:10.25 | DigitalSorceress | I thhought I was supposed to leave them out and let the packager add them, but it's not |
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| 18:11.34 | DigitalSorceress | I think maybe I should be using svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/flaskminder/mainline/trunk/ instead of svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/flaskminder/mainline/trunk/FlaskMinder/ ? |
| 18:11.45 | Pneumatus | yes you should |
| 18:12.19 | Pneumatus | the packager takes care of putting it in its addon directory for zips |
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| 18:14.59 | Repo | 10flaskminder: 03DigitalSorceress * r7 / (14 files in 2 directories): FlaskMinder: Moving files to ../ |
| 18:15.02 | Repo | - Accidentally made one directory too many when creating repository |
| 18:16.07 | Repo | 10flaskminder: 03DigitalSorceress * r8 FlaskMinder/: FlaskMinder: Deleting superfluous FlaskMinder directory |
| 18:16.10 | Repo | - After moving files out of the child level, I need to remove the now-empty directory |
| 18:16.19 | NeoTron | so why would someone use Distilled Wisdom flask over wotlk mp5/spell dmg flask? |
| 18:17.04 | NivFreak | because int is better than mp5 for some healers |
| 18:17.04 | DigitalSorceress | because they made a bunch leveling alchemy? |
| 18:17.04 | NivFreak | if not all |
| 18:17.06 | NivFreak | and throughput isn't usually an issue |
| 18:18.40 | NeoTron | but... it's wht, ~650 mana? |
| 18:19.04 | NeoTron | it just seems like a trivial amount when healers sport 25k+ mana |
| 18:19.14 | NeoTron | and the crit is hardly very much from that little int |
| 18:19.30 | NivFreak | replenishment plays into it ; |
| 18:20.21 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r5329 Ulduar/Kologarn.lua: Ulduar/Kologarn: frFR Update |
| 18:20.22 | Wobin | http://wowace.pastey.net/112864 <-- Can anyone see anything wrong with this .pkgmeta file? |
| 18:21.05 | DigitalSorceress | yeah, 650 mana is kinda low... reminds me of the Stoneblood pre-3.1 |
| 18:21.30 | DigitalSorceress | WOOT, it worked |
| 18:21.47 | Wobin | I'm getting http://wowace.pastey.net/112865 |
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| 18:22.15 | DigitalSorceress | Now, I wanna see if I can put my version back in |
| 18:22.27 | DigitalSorceress | Wobin, I dont know, but maybe indentation is wrong? |
| 18:22.55 | ckknight | Wobin: url and tag need to be indented. |
| 18:22.56 | Wobin | that's just pastey, the indenting is correct in the actual file |
| 18:22.56 | DigitalSorceress | Dont know if YAML is sensitive to indentation like that, but if it is, you need url and tags under the Libs/foo: |
| 18:23.17 | ckknight | Wobin: do you use '\t' instead of ' '*8? |
| 18:23.23 | Wobin | ckknight: hm, I'll delete and reindent |
| 18:23.29 | ckknight | use spaces |
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| 18:24.24 | Wobin | spaces, eh? ok |
| 18:24.33 | Wobin | number matter? |
| 18:25.43 | Trela_ | Four spaces typically is tab. I use tab just fine. |
| 18:25.45 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r5330 Ulduar (2 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: ruRU update |
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| 18:26.57 | Repo | 10squawk: 03wobin * r12 / (6 files in 2 directories): retabify'd pkgmeta |
| 18:27.00 | Repo | there's a .pkgmeta syntax error? |
| 18:27.03 | Repo | Qtip added for LDB |
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| 18:27.26 | EthanCentaurai | @project squawk |
| 18:27.27 | Repo | EthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/squawk/. Squawk. Game: WoW. wobin (Manager/Author). Updated: 7 days ago |
| 18:27.31 | Trela_ | @describe Squawk |
| 18:27.35 | Repo | Trela_: http://www.wowace.com/projects/squawk/. Squawk. A Twitteresqe client for in game notifications to your friends as to just -what- you're thinking |
| 18:27.59 | Trela_ | ...I thought I was free of Twitter playing WoW. |
| 18:28.04 | Wobin | muhahaha |
| 18:28.05 | Trela_ | hides in a cave. |
| 18:28.14 | Wobin | it's internal to the game |
| 18:28.21 | EthanCentaurai | ...what is this "Twitter" crap anyway? |
| 18:28.21 | Wobin | since we can't get external updates |
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| 18:28.46 | Wobin | tbph I'm not sure how well this will scale with large guilds |
| 18:28.57 | Trela_ | Ethan: Twitter Shitter. http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080423.jpg |
| 18:29.01 | EthanCentaurai | @project twitter |
| 18:29.03 | Repo | EthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/twitter/. Twitter. Game: WoW. Status: Deleted. boo. wobin (Manager/Author). Updated: 7 days ago |
| 18:29.30 | Wobin | YEah, I didn't actually want to use the name =P |
| 18:29.41 | Trela_ | Twitter is a web site were people type every thing they are doing in a limited space per characters. It is super attention whoring. |
| 18:29.51 | Trela_ | *space of |
| 18:29.56 | Wobin | 140 characters |
| 18:29.57 | NivFreak | I hate twitter |
| 18:30.13 | vrak | ain't sms'es 160 bytes? |
| 18:30.22 | Wobin | I only write these things cause I find the mechanics behind it interesting =) |
| 18:30.37 | NeoTron | http://twitter.com/magicmods ! |
| 18:31.05 | NeoTron | not sure if I would consider it remotely useful but it's an interesting experiment for me |
| 18:31.22 | Wobin | NeoTron: see, that's like a changelog but with personification added =P |
| 18:31.57 | Wobin | I hardly write to twitter in real life |
| 18:32.13 | EthanCentaurai | Twit |
| 18:32.15 | Wobin | anyway, night |
| 18:32.16 | Repo | 10flaskminder: 03DigitalSorceress * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory): FlaskMinder: Versioning up and updating ChangeLog.txt |
| 18:32.19 | Repo | - Doing a final bit of back-end maintenance to get this working well with wowace. |
| 18:32.49 | WobNet | see? I'm not hiip to the lingo |
| 18:33.37 | NeoTron | WobNet: it's just a quicker way to get updates on when I do addon stuff |
| 18:33.49 | NeoTron | pretty quiet now since I raid 7 days per week atm (4x25, 3x10) |
| 18:36.19 | WobNet | crazy =) |
| 18:36.24 | Repo | 10flaskminder: 03DigitalSorceress * r10 .pkgmeta: FlaskMinder: Slight error in .pkgmeta |
| 18:36.27 | Repo | - Corrected misspelling in .pkgmeta file. Sorry for all the updating |
| 18:38.00 | DigitalSorceress | is there any way to control how the packager names my zip file, but have it leave the name of the internal directory alone? |
| 18:38.11 | ckknight | hmm. |
| 18:38.19 | ckknight | currently it names it based on package-as |
| 18:38.25 | ckknight | DigitalSorceress: what are you wanting to do? |
| 18:38.30 | ckknight | I'm cool with adding more functionality. |
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| 18:38.41 | DigitalSorceress | I like to name my zip AddonName_vX.X.X.zip, but have it make the zipped up package be just AddonName |
| 18:38.58 | ckknight | that's what it does now, but with a - instead of a _ |
| 18:39.19 | DigitalSorceress | well, except I don't care about the r number, i care about my own internal versioning system |
| 18:39.28 | DigitalSorceress | if that make sense |
| 18:39.34 | Torhal | DigitalSorceress: Use tags when you release |
| 18:39.39 | ckknight | yea, well, those versions that say r1234, that _is_ the version |
| 18:39.41 | Torhal | Otherwise, what the zip file is named shouldn't matter |
| 18:39.48 | ckknight | it's only vX.Y.Z when it's a tag. |
| 18:40.01 | ckknight | and the tag is called whatever you want |
| 18:40.02 | DigitalSorceress | Ok, I need to look into tagging apparently |
| 18:40.04 | Bruners | DigitalSorceress: are you storing the zip files somewhere? |
| 18:40.05 | ckknight | yes. |
| 18:40.14 | ckknight | tagging is how you release beta zips and release zips. |
| 18:40.21 | Torhal | And don't put your internal version into .pkgmeta's package-as |
| 18:40.28 | Torhal | Unnecessary |
| 18:41.00 | DigitalSorceress | Ok, any resources on tagging before I go an (inevitably) look up the wrong one? |
| 18:41.16 | Torhal | Just stick with the knowledge base |
| 18:41.19 | ckknight | DigitalSorceress: standard subversion stuff |
| 18:41.21 | Torhal | And stay the hell away from old.wowace.com |
| 18:41.27 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:42.16 | DigitalSorceress | Torhal, I will, but do take into account that I was clutching at straws... I still can NOT use svn with username/pw, I HAVE TO use ssh, and it's annoying |
| 18:43.25 | Torhal | DigitalSorceress: Change your password. Some people have had to do that |
| 18:43.28 | DigitalSorceress | You say standard subversion stuff for tagging, but how do I know what to call something to get it to be beta or release? |
| 18:43.33 | DigitalSorceress | I have |
| 18:43.41 | Torhal | I couldn't get the damn thing to work WITH ssh |
| 18:43.46 | ckknight | DigitalSorceress: v1.0.0-beta is a beta. v1.0.0 is a release |
| 18:44.02 | ckknight | DigitalSorceress: SSH is more secure anyway. |
| 18:44.05 | DigitalSorceress | Ok, and there's someplace I need to put that, right? |
| 18:44.21 | Torhal | DigitalSorceress: The tag name |
| 18:44.29 | DigitalSorceress | where? |
| 18:44.38 | Torhal | Go to your project's page, click Repositories |
| 18:44.43 | Torhal | There's an option to tag |
| 18:44.45 | DigitalSorceress | AHHH |
| 18:44.58 | Torhal | TortoiseSVN also has an option to tag |
| 18:45.03 | Bruners | http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/repository-faq/#w-how-does-the-packager-know-whether-a-tag-is-a-release |
| 18:45.05 | Torhal | You can use either |
| 18:45.18 | DigitalSorceress | someone said "standard svn stuff' so I was lookin in the subversion documentation |
| 18:45.34 | Torhal | Well, tags and branches are standard SVN stuff |
| 18:46.50 | DigitalSorceress | yes, but using the project page on wowace is not :) |
| 18:47.21 | Repo | 10flaskminder: 03DigitalSorceress * r11 .pkgmeta: FlaskMinder: Reverting package-as |
| 18:47.24 | Repo | - set package-as back ... will use tagging |
| 18:48.57 | pakoz | anyone around that has a moment to help me add a custom trigger to Bigwigs? |
| 18:50.17 | pakoz | though trigger may be the wrong term - i'm trying to make it play a sound file when mimiron starts channeling spinning up |
| 18:50.53 | Torhal | Just look at the project page as an interface. Everything else is pure SVN/git/Mercurial |
| 18:51.41 | Repo | 10flaskminder: 03DigitalSorceress 04v0.0.03_beta * r12 : FlaskMinder: Updated Tags |
| 18:51.44 | Repo | - Tagged as v0.0.03_beta |
| 18:52.28 | pakoz | I have no idea what that means :[ |
| 18:53.01 | DigitalSorceress | It means that I THINK i finnally see how to make my addon get packaged and published :) |
| 18:53.13 | pakoz | ah he wasnt talking to me lol |
| 18:53.41 | Torhal | pakoz: Sorry, I've never messed with BigWigs' internals |
| 18:56.53 | pakoz | np - i'm tinkering with it, with any luck i'll get it right |
| 18:58.35 | pakoz | though i dont know how to test it .. without actually being there |
| 19:02.52 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1721 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:02.55 | Repo | - removed the apply button, filters are applied instantly now |
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| 19:04.13 | Cheads | only one daily when you try to champion for the second faction? |
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| 19:11.56 | Taladris | Cheads: For the first day |
| 19:12.13 | Cheads | ah ok |
| 19:12.30 | Cheads | I hope you can still do the other dailies from being champion |
| 19:12.32 | Cheads | ? |
| 19:13.55 | Pneumatus | yes |
| 19:14.11 | Pneumatus | and the quest triggers double on the valiant + champion quests |
| 19:15.34 | Cheads | convinient =) |
| 19:16.33 | Bruners | maby it's time to download that patch |
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| 19:20.35 | DigitalSorceress | Thanks a bunch to ckknight and Torhal and others! My addon's actually packaged and syndicated!. Now, I just need to test it out a bit more in Ulduar and get guildie feedback tonight :) |
| 19:20.45 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 19:21.11 | Torhal | Good deal |
| 19:21.17 | DigitalSorceress | TYVM |
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| 19:27.52 | Pneumatus | :o xt's trash was a bit of a surprise |
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| 19:30.48 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r42 / (3 files in 1 directory): included wrong spell data in last update |
| 19:30.50 | Repo | additional nil checking |
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| 19:31.54 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky 04r42beta * r43 : Tagging as r42beta |
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| 19:39.04 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r546 pet.lua: |
| 19:39.07 | Repo | Add the missing calculation so that pet talent are fixed up after decoding. |
| 19:40.11 | NeoTron | DigitalSorceress: what does it to? |
| 19:40.19 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: it's fun and highly bugged at the moment |
| 19:40.32 | Pneumatus | we wiped 3 times on them |
| 19:40.37 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: essentially the strategy is 1) move raid down corridor, beyond teleport |
| 19:40.46 | NeoTron | 2) Have one person ride in and aggro and ride back to raid |
| 19:40.55 | Pneumatus | didnt do that tho |
| 19:41.06 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: it reminds you when your flask/elixirs and food buffs are missing or about to go bye bye |
| 19:41.09 | NeoTron | 3) kill all the non-humanoid robots, 4) ride back to the room and kill all the mechagnomes that do nothing but trying to cast shield until aggrod in melee |
| 19:41.34 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry 04v2.1-beta3 * r547 : Tagging as v2.1-beta3 |
| 19:41.45 | NeoTron | DigitalSorceress: not to put you down (and the usage might be different) but that sounds like a small subset of BuffEnough :P |
| 19:42.08 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: basically, I kept either accidentally letting my flask expre or I was popping them early (thus wasting up time) |
| 19:42.09 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: essentially if you run away the mechagnomes just do nothing until aggrod |
| 19:42.24 | Pneumatus | we bruteforced them |
| 19:42.33 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: yeah, I know, but I wanted something really lightweight |
| 19:42.59 | NeoTron | we wiped once and changed strategy |
| 19:43.12 | NeoTron | I knew the gnomes were slower but didn't know they would just stand there doing nothing |
| 19:43.25 | NeoTron | I expected having to have a tank + healers taking care of them |
| 19:43.46 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: My other addon (MultiTool) is the same way... there's a much more complete addon (Jamba), but I didn't know about it at the time |
| 19:45.36 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: I use HealBot to manage castable buffs, so I didn't want anything bugging me about those. It was just the food and flask/elixirs I was concerned with (though I may add rogue poisions at the request of my guild leader) |
| 19:45.45 | NeoTron | no reason not to make it, but wanted to let you know if you ddn't know |
| 19:46.23 | NeoTron | what I would think would be useful is a raidwide check. does bigbrother (was it right?) still work I wonder |
| 19:46.36 | Repo | 10casualty: 03durcyn * r43 / (4 files in 1 directory): - use @no-lib-strip@ instead of embeds.xml |
| 19:46.38 | Wihl[Afk | Would be great if anyone could help me out with this. My guild is currently recruiting more members and what I currently do is i /who mage for example and then check who isnt in a guild. I then check them out on quickarmory and on the forums. In one day I talk to a lot of people. |
| 19:46.40 | Repo | - add AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets |
| 19:46.43 | Repo | - code cleanups, upvalues in the combat event log handler, etc |
| 19:47.01 | Wihl[Afk | Im just wondering if there's an easier way to do this. Is it possible to make a macro that pastes text to an open chat box? |
| 19:47.18 | NeoTron | Wihl[Afk: recruitment posts of wow recruitment forums? :P |
| 19:47.41 | Repo | 10talented_spectabs: 03jerry * r6 .pkgmeta: Add pkgmeta file |
| 19:47.42 | NeoTron | doing a shotgun approach on unguilded players seems like a surefire way of not finding the right people :P |
| 19:47.46 | Wihl[Afk | NeoTron - We've got threads on the wow forums, realm forums, mmo-champion, worldofraids and so on |
| 19:47.49 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: lol Yeah, I appreciate the intent. Honestly, the two addons Ive written were both cases of making something do exactly what I wanted, no more, no less. Besides, I LIKE coding, and I can mae it do only what I want |
| 19:48.35 | Wihl[Afk | NeoTron - All I do is talk with them to see if they're the kind of people we're looking for. If they are, I tell them to check out our website and send in an application |
| 19:48.48 | Wihl[Afk | probably gotten 4 times as many applications since i started doing that |
| 19:49.19 | Wihl[Afk | Is there an easy way of doing it though? Pasting text to an open chatbox? |
| 19:49.23 | NivFreak | I just poach of smaller guilds |
| 19:49.25 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 19:49.27 | NivFreak | off |
| 19:49.32 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: I MAY end up making a more raid-friendly version... I started by looking at AntiSlack (in fact, I used their lists of flasks/exclusions). |
| 19:49.33 | Wihl[Afk | or make it so that /who only shows unguilded people |
| 19:49.38 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1722 / (2 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:49.41 | Repo | - added new progressbar width for the expanded view |
| 19:49.44 | Repo | - added colon after "Classes" text to fit the others |
| 19:49.45 | Wihl[Afk | tried g="" but that doesnt seem to work |
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| 19:52.14 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: the way I do the checking could easily be modified to scan the party/raid, but I just wanted it to scream at ME so I could afford to wait for it to run out instead of wasting 5/10 min per flask re-upping them out of combat |
| 19:53.03 | NeoTron | DigitalSorceress: yeah. I got me covered. my usecase is checking the raid |
| 19:53.19 | NeoTron | which bigbrother did, and quite possibly does - just haven't looked at it since in Naxx who cared? |
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| 19:54.08 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: Yeah, I hear you there - my priest has like 24K mana and depending on group makeups, can hit 2700 spel power - way overkill for naxx even on 25 |
| 19:55.40 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: In truth, there are a lot of addons that duplicate other function. In the end, I guess the differentiation is a matter of scope and user interface (and whether they are kept updated or get abandoned). |
| 19:56.55 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: both my addons have absolutely ZERO Gui. outside of the bliz config menu. They all just do stuff quietly (or loudly in case of warning about buffs) behind the scenes. |
| 19:57.22 | NeoTron | naturally |
| 19:57.51 | DigitalSorceress | NeoTron: partly cuz I don't need more clutter and partly because I'm not such a good UI designer :P |
| 19:59.16 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03galmok * r172 / (4 files in 4 directories): 3.1.1 Tradeskill run. |
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| 20:08.56 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r548 wowdb.lua: Fix wow talent calculator import of druid templates. |
| 20:14.19 | durcyn | as long as you don't commit anything named 'libsundry', you're headed in the right direction, DigitalSorceress |
| 20:14.44 | Torhal | durcyn: You forgot LibLordFarlander |
| 20:14.55 | durcyn | context, man. |
| 20:14.58 | Torhal | :D |
| 20:15.16 | rubik | weird.. there was another patch or something? after 3.1.1? |
| 20:15.22 | rubik | or why is the launcher downloading another patch |
| 20:15.34 | DigitalSorceress | What's libsundry |
| 20:15.57 | DigitalSorceress | there was a mini patch thing yesterday |
| 20:16.14 | DigitalSorceress | all yer talents get refunded .... again |
| 20:16.16 | rubik | yeah, that must be it.. i didn't play last night |
| 20:16.41 | DigitalSorceress | its really small - mostly a couple hotfixes for folks with major graphics exe crash issues |
| 20:16.58 | rubik | i kept crashing on login.. every time (after 3.1.1) |
| 20:16.58 | DigitalSorceress | and I think the fix to some folks loosing their talents |
| 20:17.14 | DigitalSorceress | Yeah, it's some error with some Northrend Maps |
| 20:17.23 | rubik | but then i noticed that i didn't click "load out of date addons" and once i did that, it worked.. was weird |
| 20:17.30 | DigitalSorceress | hmm |
| 20:18.45 | Pneumatus | kologarn has been stealth-buffed by creating insane lag? |
| 20:19.29 | DigitalSorceress | As to the libs - ok, gotchya :) I'm still so new to LUA that I'm doing way more copy/paste than I should be... At some point, I need to sit down and really refactor everything... move stuff off to libraries and whatnot |
| 20:19.38 | Pneumatus | (Lua) |
| 20:19.41 | krka | DigitalSorceress: The name of the language is Lua, not LUA. ;-) |
| 20:19.46 | DigitalSorceress | Sorry |
| 20:20.03 | DigitalSorceress | I know, and it's Ace, not ACE :p |
| 20:21.34 | durcyn | don't mind krka, he's a troll |
| 20:22.29 | Antiarc | Morning folks. |
| 20:22.36 | DigitalSorceress | I wrote this really nice (for me) set of sound picker/player functions to MultiTool, and I ended up copy/pasting them into FlaskMinder. That right there is a sign that I need to refactor. Just gotta figure out how to separate it out and make a proper library |
| 20:23.04 | krka | i am not! |
| 20:23.13 | krka | i am a hot nightelf |
| 20:23.15 | krka | /dance |
| 20:23.20 | durcyn | DigitalSorceress: you might look at sharedmedia/acegui-sharedmediawidgets |
| 20:24.31 | DigitalSorceress | Whenever I learn a new language, I go through that... first there's the sloppy-as-heck, just figuring out how to make it do stuff, then there's the kludging together something workable, then finally, I figure out what I' should have done better (best practices) long, long road |
| 20:24.48 | DigitalSorceress | as a possible sound handler? or as example of makin a decent library? |
| 20:24.58 | durcyn | as a wheel that's already been invented |
| 20:25.17 | DigitalSorceress | Ahh, and now, sadly, so has mine :( |
| 20:25.42 | DigitalSorceress | I've done probably 80% re-inventing wheels... maybe 90% |
| 20:26.10 | DigitalSorceress | But honestly, if I let that stop me, I'd never have made anything. |
| 20:26.50 | Pneumatus | a lot of people make square wheels though |
| 20:26.57 | Pneumatus | so reinventing it to be circle isnt a bad idea :P |
| 20:27.04 | DigitalSorceress | Heh |
| 20:27.17 | Torhal | Pneumatus: And others make triangular ones. |
| 20:27.37 | Pneumatus | surprising how many addons there are about that make things so much more complex than they need to be :o |
| 20:27.50 | DigitalSorceress | I ~think~ I've re-invented circular wheels... so I guess I've got that going for me |
| 20:29.07 | DigitalSorceress | With my first addon, I reinvented because the one that did what I wanted had been abandoned and was horribly broken. The code was ugly, so I started from scratch and made my own... THEN I found someone else who had made a really good version of what I was doing, but I'd afready written mine and had become kind of partial to it |
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| 21:03.41 | steev | anyone around familiar with oUF? I'm not extremely familiar with it, but I'm wanting to take the debuffs that show on a target like the 3.1 ones where mine are in a slightly larger square than the others |
| 21:03.54 | steev | I think its self.Auras |
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| 21:05.13 | durcyn | i don't believe the aura module has any code for selective sizing at present, steev |
| 21:06.40 | steev | durcyn: :( |
| 21:09.56 | steev | so id have to get fancy and do it in an if or something? |
| 21:09.58 | durcyn | steev: doesn't look like he's done any updates for the 3.1 UnitAura changes at all, either |
| 21:10.45 | steev | hm, oUF_P3lim has checks in place, |
| 21:11.08 | durcyn | for onlyShowPlayer, or did he write his own PostCreateAuraIcon function |
| 21:11.30 | steev | he did a local function updateAura |
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| 21:12.08 | steev | then again |
| 21:12.16 | steev | the comment is "-- clean up in 3.1" |
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| 21:12.54 | durcyn | the only clean up needed is string compares instead of nil checks on the caster return |
| 21:14.44 | Cavisty^gerber | wuts a pro mage leveling spec |
| 21:14.48 | Cavisty^gerber | 75 to 80 |
| 21:15.08 | steev | unholy |
| 21:15.19 | steev | What's a wut |
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| 21:16.10 | Taladris | Cavisty^gerber: I'm having fun as FFB |
| 21:17.56 | Cavisty^gerber | my crit sucks tho |
| 21:18.47 | steev | durcyn: im just tryin to make it look like the default interface does, where your debuffs are size 36 and everyone elses are 24 |
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| 21:29.06 | Bruners | steev: any dramatical changes for ouf in 3.1? |
| 21:30.06 | steev | Bruners: not that im aware of |
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| 21:38.36 | steev | Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan: Government to build UFO base and alien embassy http://bit.ly/vemdL |
| 21:41.16 | Bruners | Hodir is boss nr what in Uludar? |
| 21:41.51 | NivFreak | they aren't really in sequence ;) |
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| 21:46.22 | NeoTron | Bruners: 3rd if you want |
| 21:46.42 | NeoTron | 7th if you kill everything before |
| 21:49.38 | durcyn | 4th, not 3rd, you have to clear leviathan, deconstructor, and kologarn to get to the keepers |
| 21:50.08 | durcyn | er watchers |
| 21:50.14 | Bruners | anyone got a decent rogue level 70 pvp spec? |
| 21:50.40 | NeoTron | oh yeah I forgot leviathan |
| 21:52.07 | Mikk | has Bohemian Rhapsody stuck in his head |
| 21:52.12 | Mikk | isn't REALLY complaining |
| 21:52.43 | Pneumatus | while auriaya isnt neccesary, its a ballache having to re-do her trash every time they spawn :P |
| 21:53.08 | nevcairiel | and avoiding her <.< |
| 21:53.23 | Mikk | but her trash is so much fun the first time you do them... and focus fire one |
| 21:54.56 | Pneumatus | its not really worth skipping razorscale either as he's a loot pinata |
| 21:55.10 | Pneumatus | ignis on the other hand :) |
| 21:55.26 | nevcairiel | ignis isnt that hard either once you figured him out |
| 21:55.30 | Pneumatus | although his nerfs probably make him stupid easy now |
| 21:55.47 | Pneumatus | we killed him last week after some practice, but skipping him this week to kill more watchers |
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| 21:57.11 | nevcairiel | we skipped him last week to get deeper in |
| 21:57.13 | nevcairiel | but did him today |
| 21:57.34 | Pneumatus | we had a go at him last wednesday but gave up after he was 1shotting the tank |
| 21:57.38 | nevcairiel | we got as far as kologarn down today, and everything optional before him |
| 21:57.41 | Pneumatus | but ended up killing him on tuesday just for the lula |
| 21:57.49 | Mikk | ignis is easy once the OT gets practice in |
| 21:57.59 | nevcairiel | so auriaya and watchers tomorrow |
| 21:58.00 | Mikk | but you have to be kinda aggressive about standing in fire to get the golems molten |
| 21:58.01 | Pneumatus | we got FL/XT/Razor/Kolo/Auraiya today |
| 21:58.04 | nevcairiel | and mimiron probably on friday |
| 21:58.09 | Pneumatus | so we get watchers tomorrow :) |
| 21:58.35 | nevcairiel | we killed mimiron yesterday, but i'm still not sure it will be a "quick" kill this week |
| 21:59.22 | nevcairiel | hodir and thorim are easy, freya just needs some practive with the elemental adds (1-2 trys?) then its easy too |
| 21:59.24 | Pneumatus | we only got hodir and thorim last week |
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| 21:59.31 | Pneumatus | got freya with 2 groups on 10man tho |
| 21:59.50 | nevcairiel | mimiron on the other hand took us about 6 hours |
| 21:59.55 | nevcairiel | which is 1.5 raid days |
| 22:00.03 | Pneumatus | spent far too long wiping tonight for my liking tho :< |
| 22:00.22 | Megalon | we got to mimiron in 10man first |
| 22:00.25 | nevcairiel | we only wiped on ignis because we didnt do him before, otherwise was fine |
| 22:00.38 | nevcairiel | could've been a bit faster, though |
| 22:00.40 | nevcairiel | next week :) |
| 22:00.48 | Megalon | and the day after the kill on 10man |
| 22:00.52 | Pneumatus | we had failures at kolo from people too retarded to move from the beams |
| 22:01.02 | Megalon | 25man seemed a bit easy for those who did it nonhc :x |
| 22:01.05 | nevcairiel | oh right we wiped there once |
| 22:01.07 | Pneumatus | and failed with the pulls on auraya a few more times |
| 22:01.29 | Mikk | we have an excellent pulling strategy. we get our pulling hunter dead with a 99% success rate. |
| 22:01.48 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:01.52 | Pneumatus | do you just use 2 tanks? |
| 22:01.56 | nevcairiel | we use a totem and 4 tanks |
| 22:02.05 | Pneumatus | we tried using multiple tanks and it was a complete fucking mess, found it easier just using 2 |
| 22:02.08 | Mikk | snake traps, MDs, 3 tanks |
| 22:02.31 | Pneumatus | all the adds on 1 tank makes for some crazy spamheal, but we found it more managable |
| 22:02.33 | nevcairiel | one for each kitty, the feral gets auriaya on him too, worked fine |
| 22:03.03 | Mikk | well, the thing to realize is that whoever is in LoS will be pounced |
| 22:03.05 | Mikk | and die |
| 22:03.24 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 22:03.44 | nevcairiel | we hide behind the corner, once the kittys get in sight, all 4 tanks taunt theirs |
| 22:03.47 | nevcairiel | and all is good |
| 22:03.53 | Pneumatus | yeh, corner pull with a pally or something is what we found works |
| 22:03.54 | Mikk | what, through the wall? oO |
| 22:04.06 | Pneumatus | then DnD on the corner for quick aggro |
| 22:04.07 | nevcairiel | nah, after a totem pull |
| 22:04.38 | Mikk | ahh ok |
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| 22:05.03 | Mikk | we had 4 tanks for a bit but then we had dps problems |
| 22:05.17 | nevcairiel | dps problems on her? =) |
| 22:05.29 | Mikk | well... wanting to kill the feral spirit a couple of times |
| 22:05.40 | nevcairiel | we killed it twice |
| 22:05.48 | Mikk | or well i should say |
| 22:06.00 | Mikk | in THEORY we had dps problems... we didnt get enough time on in on her |
| 22:06.03 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r100 Encounter.lua: Ulduar encounter DB update |
| 22:06.21 | Mikk | so she didn't actually die ^^ |
| 22:06.30 | Mikk | (9 hours per week raiding guild n all =)) |
| 22:06.37 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r101 Abilities/Abilities.lua: FIX: "Type 5" NPC processing |
| 22:06.55 | Repo | 10loggerhead: 03rsmozang * r87 / (10 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 22:06.58 | Repo | - Added support for area difficulty (Normal/Heroic) |
| 22:07.01 | Repo | - reworked config panel |
| 22:07.04 | Repo | - added LibDBIcon support |
| 22:07.07 | Repo | - switched to the WowAce Localization tool |
| 22:09.23 | Mikk | wonders why everyone needs minimap herpes =( |
| 22:09.40 | Bruners | to look at? |
| 22:11.11 | sylvanaar | 3 patches in 2 weeks |
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| 22:23.56 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r118 / (9 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 22:23.59 | Repo | add AceBucket-3.0 to .toc and .pkgmeta |
| 22:24.02 | Repo | add bag scan to find quest item and match them to a quest. (improve the quest item macro) |
| 22:24.05 | Repo | improve syncParty module |
| 22:24.08 | Repo | add check icon to tracked quests in the quest tooltip |
| 22:25.13 | sylvanaar | wow its downloading another patch |
| 22:25.18 | sylvanaar | is it broken? |
| 22:25.31 | Stanzilla | launcher patch or normal client patch? |
| 22:26.03 | rubik | i got the launcher patch earlier too and didn't expect it |
| 22:26.13 | sylvanaar | actually, i think it didnt apply it last time because its not actually downloading - just doing something else |
| 22:26.30 | rubik | there WAS a little patch that the launcher downloaded *after* 3.1.1 |
| 22:27.30 | netcurse | sylvanaar same |
| 22:33.18 | Repo | 10casualty: 03durcyn * r44 Casualty.toc: fix optdeps for SharedMediaWidgets |
| 22:33.23 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou 04r118 beta * r119 : Tagging as r118 beta |
| 22:35.08 | Repo | 10casualty: 03durcyn 043.1.0-release * r45 : Tagging as 3.1.0-release |
| 22:39.47 | maqr | pastamancer: do you think there'd be any sensible way to put target and assist inside of grid frames? |
| 22:40.27 | maqr | err, target and focus |
| 22:41.52 | Grum | since 3.1.1, has anyone seen the TexCoord out of range error? |
| 22:42.12 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.17 | Grum | lol |
| 22:42.20 | Grum | you die if oyu do that |
| 22:42.23 | NeoTron | that's 150% more damage dealt - how do you heal that? |
| 22:42.26 | Grum | you cant |
| 22:42.28 | Grum | you die :) |
| 22:42.38 | NeoTron | "15:03 <@nevcairiel> we hide behind the corner, once the kittys get in sight, all 4 tanks taunt theirs" |
| 22:42.50 | Grum | and then run to different corners obviously |
| 22:42.54 | Grum | we pull the same |
| 22:43.24 | Mikk | maqr: of course you could in theory write a column / line containing target and focus... but i fail to see the point myself |
| 22:43.40 | NeoTron | problem is dying right on the pull |
| 22:44.06 | Mikk | hm oh wait... if you're a healer i guess they might be interesting |
| 22:44.10 | Mikk | i.e. targetting friendlies |
| 22:44.45 | Mikk | but then it'd probably be more useful to just be able to say "show me this, that, that, and that unit in a group on their own please!" |
| 22:45.12 | Mikk | (or am i missing something?) |
| 22:45.39 | NeoTron | I think I'll adjust our pull somewhat however |
| 22:45.57 | Repo | 10loggerhead: 03rsmozang * r88 LoggerHead.lua: - Added Chat Logging option |
| 22:46.00 | Repo | - Added missing localization |
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| 23:03.16 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r5331 Ulduar (3 files in 1 directory): Another bunch of deDE's |
| 23:04.53 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r120 questsInformations.lua: |
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| 23:04.59 | Repo | fix border and backdrop color not properly set in the quest information module (tomQuest2 questlog) |
| 23:05.45 | pastamancer | maqr: no |
| 23:08.57 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou 04r120 beta * r121 : Tagging as r120 beta |
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| 23:11.09 | Bruners | what is the best dvd player software nowadays, is it still power dvd ? |
| 23:13.09 | Repo | 10fswapper3: 03x87bliss * r21 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added context menu for Data Broker plug-in. |
| 23:13.12 | Repo | Changed fishing pole detection for better localization support (hopefully). |
| 23:13.15 | Repo | Duplicate errors will only be printed once every 5 seconds, to prevent error spam. |
| 23:13.18 | Repo | Changed Data Broker update style so it's more efficient. |
| 23:14.19 | Repo | 10fswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.1.0.4 * r22 : Tagging as v3.1.0.4 |
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| 23:21.13 | Shefki_ | Hmm CC is giving me download failed for some addons. |
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| 23:21.45 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss * r47 RSwapper3.lua: |
| 23:21.48 | Repo | Fixed an error which may occur when you first log into a client which had its item cache cleared, or if your Dagger or Sword was not previously cached by that client. |
| 23:21.50 | Repo | Duplicate error messages will only be displayed once every 5 seconds to prevent error spam. |
| 23:22.30 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.1.0.3b (beta) * r48 : Tagging as v3.1.0.3b (beta) |
| 23:23.02 | Taladris | Shefki_: Same here |
| 23:23.22 | p3lim | i have this string "ContainerFrameXItemY". how can I get out the numbers X and Y represent? |
| 23:30.42 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r1982 AtlasLayout/instances.en.lua: - fixed links to fit the new Atlas svn |
| 23:31.16 | Groktar|laptop | bleeds all over you |
| 23:31.43 | rubik | hmm.. CC failing to download/update here too all of a sudden |
| 23:32.16 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5332 Ulduar (3 files in 1 directory): Random cleanups and fixes. |
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| 23:40.55 | Repo | 10yatba: 03Adirelle 04v1.2 * r19 : Tagging as v1.2 |
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| 23:45.50 | Groktar|laptop | devours Funkeh`s soul |
| 23:46.41 | Axodious | download of bigwigs fialed! what?! |
| 23:46.45 | Axodious | silly CC |
| 23:47.20 | rubik | yup.. fails on loggerhead too |
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| 23:47.49 | rubik | might fail on any download, haven't tested to see if that's true yet though |
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| 23:52.55 | NeoTron | the anti-WM code is now so good it even stops CC downloads! |
| 23:55.10 | rubik | haha.. woot |
| 23:55.14 | Torhal | CC works for me |
| 23:56.07 | rubik | yeah, works for some addons.. fails on bigwigs and loggerhead for example |
| 23:56.44 | Funkeh` | try reinstall the addons |
| 23:56.50 | Funkeh` | the ones that fail |
| 23:57.02 | durcyn | speaking of loggerhead, is the localization app hard, or did rsmozang fail miserably |
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| 23:59.25 | Groktar|laptop | stabs wildly |
| 23:59.26 | Axodious | Funkeh` blue broke the emalon addon :( |
| 23:59.44 | Funkeh` | eh? |
| 23:59.53 | Axodious | emalon no longer targets the add |
