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00:31.07Odlawwtf... ruined immortal from decimate killing 3 people somehow..
00:31.16Odlawthey were at 100%.. and dead
00:31.26Odlawno frost nova'ed adds
00:32.41Venara|afkselfkills? SW:D, Seal of the Martyr or something like that
00:33.02Odlaw2 were healers
00:33.28Venara|afk:/
00:33.30CodayusOuch
00:34.02Venara|afkwell it happened for us too a few times. seems like decimate is a littly bugged. sometimes it simply kills people instead of reducing them to 5%
00:34.03OdlawI've heard about people getting insta gibbed by decimate before...
00:34.13Odlawnever seen it :(
00:34.19OdlawI'm so pissed.. never gonna get immortal
00:34.27Venara|afkyeah but you can't avoid it either
00:34.30Odlaw3% wipe last week
00:34.34Venara|afkexcept you have like 24 holy priests
00:34.35Venara|afk;P
00:35.10Venara|afkbad luck :/
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00:43.28Repo10pick-pocket-timer: 03kunda * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): PickPocketTimer: Pick Pocket Countdown Timer for Rogues.
00:43.32Repoinitial commit
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00:46.32Repo10pick-pocket-timer: 03kunda 04r2 * r3 : Tagging as r2
00:47.08Repo10pick-pocket-timer: 03kunda 04r2-release * r4 : Tagging as r2-release
00:56.29Ackis@describe pick-pocket-timer
00:56.30RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pick-pocket-timer/. PickPocketTimer. Pick Pocket Countdown Timer for Rogues. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -- PickPocketTimer by kunda -- --...
00:57.36pompyimmortal , undying ulduar achievements changed back to one raid lockout
00:58.58Repo10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * 7d76ff5 ldb.lua: [+1 commit] Fix the show_lastseen options
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01:06.25Repo10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * 3887165 ldb.lua: [+1 commit] Speculative fix for a reported error
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01:15.29Repo10bank-stack: 03Kemayo * r126 / (4 files in 1 directory): Add submitted localizationsx
01:18.10Repo10better-quest: 03Kemayo * r124 modules/sink/sink.lua: Make sure :Pour only gets r,g,b
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01:55.33Kilroosighs
01:56.03Kilrootime to try to merge the latest oUF-Caellian with my customizations I reckon
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01:56.34HjalteSo my guildies are saying that this link (WARNING), sent through a mail, got someone hacked. https://eu.battle.net/login/login.xml?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wow-europe.com%2Faccount%2F&app=wam - But I say it looks legit enough?
01:57.53Funkeh`looks like a simple secured forwarder
02:00.05kd3looks fine. the us sites do the same thing
02:00.07Odlawmaybe they should ask customer service.
02:00.11ThraeHjalte: Unless Blizzard's site was hacked themselves doesn't seem like it. The ref line is just the referer.
02:00.30HjalteFine. I kept saying the same as you guys.
02:01.24KilrooNicaragua.
02:01.24ThraeIn fact you can login with any referer -- https://eu.battle.net/login/login.xml?ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goatse.cx&app=wam (warning: do not visit the referer)
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02:02.45ThraeWAM sounds like it's some type of authenticator for World of Warcraft. Is that part of the new mobile authenticator?
02:03.09ThraeOh Warcraft Account Management. Duh.
02:03.26KilrooOr Wild As Monkeys.
02:03.58Thraerepeatedly slaps himself with a 9001-pound heavy-set whale named Bernice while listening to "Badger, Badger, Badger" for 6 hours straight.
02:04.12ckknightmushroom, mushroom!
02:04.24ThraeOh a snake! A snaaaaaake
02:07.23Odlawpossible the email had text that looked like that, but when you clicked the link, it went somewhere else.
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02:08.31Repo10librockconfig-1-0: 03ckknight * r400 LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: bugfix with the pairs(nil) dealy.
02:09.01Repo10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r178 / (2 files in 1 directory): Trying to make the toggle smarter
02:12.14HjalteOdlaw: That could be. I'm not sure if whoever copied in the e-mail checked for that.
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02:47.21Primerugh, just can't figure out all the permutations for toggling and displaying my frame
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02:55.26Repo10better-quest: 03Kemayo * r125 modules (5 files in 2 directories): Quick start at a broker module
03:01.37Zhinjioany recent new keylogger activity from wow sites?
03:01.48Zhinjiowow related sites
03:01.49ZhinjioI mean
03:04.21Dark_Elfi dunno bout keyloggers but i been hearing a dialup sound when loading wow lately
03:08.02TorhalZhinjio: Yo.
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03:18.21Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5086 Ulduar/Razorscale.lua: Razorscale: Add missing trigger. Fix phase2 warning
03:19.15ZhinjioHeya Torhal
03:19.29Zhinjiohey folks, what are people using for a HUD style addon these days?
03:19.35ZhinjioI don't use them, and am clueless
03:19.44Zhinjioone person says they used Icehud
03:19.50Zhinjioany others?
03:20.18ckknightI put PitBull right below my toon
03:21.09Repo10better-quest: 03Kemayo * r126 modules/ldb/ldb.lua: With text!
03:22.05Axodious<ckknight> I put PitBull right below my toon <--
03:22.17ckknightHUDs are useful for minimizing eye movement
03:22.47ckknightUFs close to the center of the screen provide the same situation
03:22.49Zhinjiooh, I'm not arguing against them. Its just not my gig. I recognize the value
03:23.19Axodiousdunno if it's still runnning i used archud at one point
03:23.23Axodiouslike 2.0
03:23.24Axodiouslol
03:23.28Codayus*shrug*  As a healer, I just state at grid.  :-/
03:23.36Codayuser, stare, even
03:24.26Axodiousdo you begin to uncrontrolably drool after extended lengths of staring at grid?
03:25.02CodayusIf Grid would just have target and ToT frames, I'd probably just not have visible unit frames at all...
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03:26.21Axodioussame could be said in reverse about pb ;o
03:26.34Axodiousif pb had the advanced raid features grid has you could just use pb
03:26.43Axodious-raid
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03:33.17ZhinjioThanks
03:35.05Axodiousi take it you're not done with your ui yeT? :p
03:35.15Zhinjiome?
03:35.19Axodiousyou!
03:35.20Zhinjiono, I'm fine... a guildie asked
03:35.24Axodiousoh
03:35.38Zhinjiohe's trying to replace an aging HUD addon that hasn't been updated in like... 8 months
03:35.49Zhinjiohe gets errors all the time
03:35.53Zhinjioyadda yadda yadda
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04:17.49KemayoOh, my eyes. I just foolishly looked at MapNotes source because someone asked me about integration between it and one of my addons.
04:18.51ckknightKemayo: did you pull a muscle?
04:19.00ckknightyou know I told you to stretch beforehand.
04:19.16KemayoThere's stretching and then there's *stretching*/
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04:33.12Axodiousi think i said something along those lines when i saw the first website someone PUBLISHED with dreamweaver
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04:33.39Axodiousit had like, a table inside a table inside a table for each row of text
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04:41.55Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5087 Ulduar/Razorscale.lua: Razorscale: Fix :(
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05:00.44ckknightAxodious: *shudder*
05:01.25ckknightI'm doing the CurseForge redesign now. tbh, I'm not sure where I'm going to use tables.
05:01.50ckknightthe listings we have such as tickets and such will turn into <ul><li> dealies
05:03.12Axodiousthat's the way my current site is, only place we have tables is for recruitment, progress and roster
05:05.40sztanpetusing tables for tabular data, wow its already 2k9 huh :D
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05:11.10ckknightsztanpet: design is hard, tables make it easier, albeit hackish
05:12.16sztanpetwe could argue about making it easier or not, but i do see your point
05:12.42sztanpetits simpler to think in terms of tables thats for sure
05:12.49ckknightyea
05:13.12Axodiousin the end it all looks the same for me
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05:16.25Axodiousugh for the past 4 days now i've had tiny tim - living in the sunlight
05:16.26Axodiousstuck in my head
05:16.55sztanpetit matters tho, both in performance and "rightness"
05:17.03Axodiousindeed
05:17.18Axodiouscomparing it to the last table site i did ~60% faster load times
05:17.27Axodiousboth are pretty equal in graphics etc
05:18.12Axodiousdoes anyone know if using png icons for a favicon really matters anymore?
05:18.28Axodioussome site said it didnt work in IE but it seems to work in 7 and 8
05:18.37sztanpetand with tables, if you modify something with js, the whole page will initiate a reflow, css is more efficient
05:23.28Repo10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r48 IconDisplay/IconDisplay.lua: [*]Fixed a bug with elliptical display due to typo.
05:25.52Repo10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r44 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: - ruRU: Added a Defense Rating pattern (thanks kerved)
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05:29.07Repo10titletronic: 03quantorsht * r10 Core.lua:
05:29.10RepoApparently title information isn't reliably available during the PLAYER_LOGIN event.  Skip validating titles until I figure out what's going on...
05:29.52ckknightsztanpet: hmm, makes sense
05:50.55Torhal@describe titletronic
05:50.56RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/projects/titletronic/. TitleTronic. With patch 3 and the Wrath of the Lich King expansion, players will have available multiple titles for their character. TitleTronic will randomly select a new title for your character. Currently,...
05:51.13TorhalAh, now I don't have to code that.
05:51.19TorhalUnless this one sucks...
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05:59.07RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pick-pocket-timer/. PickPocketTimer. kunda (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
05:59.12RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cht/. CHT. durash (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
05:59.17RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/overhead/. Overhead. kollektiv (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
06:11.27Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1934 / (7 files in 7 directories):
06:11.30RepoMade Ulduar accessible in the loot browser, added new inscription glyphs for Patch 3.1
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06:19.06sb|workmorning
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06:36.54Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r160 / (4 files in 4 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
06:36.57Repo[*]Bidder: Fixed removal of people that have yet to bid (Ticket #8)
06:37.00Repo[*]Bidder: Prevent double registration from being an issue (Ticket #7)
06:37.03Repo[*]Bidder: Fixed issues related to default options after changing profile (Tickets #12, #13)
06:37.06Repo[*]Database: Fixed nil comparision error in sort method.
06:39.09Kemayo`luac -l -p MapNotes.lua | grep SETGLOBAL | wc -l` => 226 ;_;
06:39.23nevcairielo.o
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06:53.10Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r188 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua:
06:53.13RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
06:53.19Repo10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r197 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua:
06:53.22RepoAutomated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system
06:57.58Repo10big-wigs: 03Nevcairiel * r5088 Ulduar/Razorscale.lua:
06:58.01RepoBigWigs: Move the Expedition Commander locale into babble-boss
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07:27.17Torhalnevcairiel: Out of curiosity, what's the wattage on your PSU?
07:28.28nevcairiel550 i think
07:29.36sb|work>9000
07:29.38sb|work:/
07:29.44Torhalnevcairiel: That may be my FPS issue. My card supposedly requires a 350w PSU, and mine is 300.
07:30.07nevcairiel300 *is* pretty low for a recent computer
07:30.12TorhalThough, I updated my Kernel and nVidia driver and got a mild boost plus a bit more stability.
07:30.26nevcairielDid you plug the extra power cord directly into the card?
07:30.49Torhalnevcairiel: If there is a plug on the card, I did not see it.
07:30.57sb|workwhat card is it?
07:31.00nevcairielEvery damn revent card has one
07:31.02TorhalThough I had no idea, until now, that that was a possibility.
07:31.03sb|workor type of card
07:31.03nevcairiel*recent
07:31.09TorhalSonofabitch.
07:31.09sb|worknevcairiel: or two.. %-)
07:31.24nevcairielIf you don't do it, they run on like 20% of their performance
07:31.26Torhalsb|work: nVidia 9500GT
07:31.31Torhalnevcairiel: OMFG
07:31.39TorhalNow I gotta pop my case apart.
07:31.47TorhalDanke.
07:31.52TorhalBBIAB.
07:31.53sb|workhm
07:32.01sb|workhttp://images.nvidia.com/products/geforce_9500_gt/GeForce_9500_GT_3qtr_low.png
07:32.09nevcairielAlthough i don't see a connector on the card itself right away
07:32.13sb|workyup
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07:33.07nevcairielTorhal: if you have a low PSU, you probably wouldn't have the right cable to plug in there, either.
07:33.30Torhalnevcairiel: I'll check anyway.
07:33.56nevcairielIt does look like the 9500 actually doesn't need an extra power cord
07:34.01sb|worknevcairiel: http://www.hartware.de/review_838_5.html look at the FPS there :o thats why i doesnt need a extra power connector
07:34.06sb|worki=it
07:34.27nevcairielI told him that the x500 are very low end
07:35.30nevcairielBut yeah, the 9500 doesnt need extra power on any screenshot i found
07:35.58nevcairiel(not screenshot, but you get it :P)
07:36.59nevcairielAt least the drivers on windows yell at you if you forget to plug the power cord in
07:37.08nevcairielWonder if linux would do that
07:37.22sb|workmy system doesnt boot without power plugged in :o
07:37.25NeoTronhas decided to learn Groovy and grails.
07:37.34sb|workits a graphic card bios warning
07:37.39nevcairielsb|work: an nvidia?
07:37.39NeoTronmight even be useful for work stuffs
07:37.42sb|workNeoTron: groovy is fun o
07:37.57nevcairielI know that ATI refuses to boot
07:38.11nevcairielbut tbh, i haven't really checked on a more recent nvidia model
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07:38.21NeoTrondone some very minimal stuff in the past for a testsuite
07:38.24sb|worki dont see any reason to run without it plugged :p
07:38.35NeoTronand gather I might use it to implement a testsuite at work
07:38.36nevcairielI forgot on some 6600 model or something
07:38.39nevcairielor 6800 i think
07:38.44sb|workits like "write 20 lines of code and it just works" :o
07:40.07NeoTronyeah
07:40.25NeoTronI love java in a lot of ways.. but some things are just excessively complex for what it should be
07:40.59Fisker-ati sucks
07:41.29sb|workFisker-: yes, we know
07:43.49Fisker-i want to play godfather 2
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07:48.10Torhalnevcairiel: That settles it. Thought I just bought this card, I'm buying another and setting this one aside for my GF's new system.
07:48.20Torhals/Thought/Though
07:48.22Torhals/Thought/Though/
07:48.32Torhalpurl: DIAF
07:48.32purlACTION refuses to die!
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07:53.02nevcairielTorhal: i would suggest getting a 9800 GT or something like that, its only slightly more expensive then the 9500, but has like tripple power.
07:54.25nevcairielAnd a new PSU
07:54.26nevcairiel;)
07:54.33Torhalnevcairiel: PSU is a given. :D
07:55.23Fisker-what psu you got already?
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07:56.40orionshocktekkub: ping
07:57.10tekkubwut
07:57.27nevcairielTorhal: what card did you have before?
07:58.25orionshocktekkub: would like to ask permission to pritty much copy your code from tekKompare's Hoverlinks.lua file to use in a new addon im putting up soon. I simply copy-pasted the code and made 1 change to it.
07:58.41tekkubyou know the rules
07:58.56tekkubgive it a new original name and don't blame me :P
07:59.00orionshockit's listed as All Rights Reserved in only one place
07:59.07tekkubbesides I stole that from prat or something
07:59.10orionshocklol
08:01.19Fisker-reported for stealing
08:01.51Torhalnevcairiel: Nefore my 9500GT?
08:01.57nevcairielyes
08:01.59Torhals/Nefore/Before/
08:02.07Torhalnevcairiel: 5500FX
08:02.14nevcairielouch
08:02.27TorhalIndeed. On an Athlon 200+ with 1.5GB RAM
08:02.31Torhal2000+
08:02.31SunTsuTorhal: before buying a new card, ever checked whether other games run smooth with high fps? like nexuiz
08:02.43TorhalSunTsu: On Linux?
08:02.51SunTsuTorhal: yes
08:03.37TorhalSunTsu: No. But nevcairiel is using a comparably-powered system with a different card under Linux and getting a _least_ twice the FPS.
08:03.40nevcairieljust try glxgears and see what fps you get :D
08:03.46TorhalAnd I'd rather not have 1-3FPS in raids.
08:03.59SunTsuTorhal: Nexuiz is a ego shooter with quake3 engine, running cross platform. And it runs with 100 fps at full detail - while wow is as low as you can get
08:04.20Torhalnevcairiel: 11484 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2296.751 FPS
08:04.31Torhal11918 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2373.792 FPS
08:04.48Torhal15829 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3165.746 FPS
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08:04.53nevcairielHm i'm not on linux right now to test it myself
08:04.58TorhalAh
08:05.10nevcairieloh well i'll reboot
08:05.11nevcairielbrb
08:05.16Torhalkk
08:06.19TorhalSunTsu: Installing Nexuiz now.
08:06.33TorhalThough it's native, so it'll definitely run better.
08:06.52TorhalHoly shit, it's huge.
08:07.07TorhalDownloading an 1244kB/s and it's taking over 5m
08:07.10SunTsuglxgear really isn't that much of a test. One time I run it I get 1k fps, next time above 2k fps
08:07.33TorhalSunTsu: Yah, it was varying for me as well, but peaked at 3.16k
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08:08.06SunTsuTorhal: it still does not sound like a graphics card problem to me
08:08.49Repo10acronymguide: 03OrionShock * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory):
08:08.52RepoInital Commit of files. Acronym Guide is made for players that have a hard time getting used to the various acronyms used in WoW. What it does is replace the common phrases with a hyper link, that on mouse over or click, displays a tool tip with an short explanation of what it means.
08:08.57orionshock...eol style...
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08:09.35Fisker-cool hwip
08:09.46orionshock>.>
08:09.48orionshock~hwip
08:10.01orionshockok Fisker- what's it mean :P
08:10.13thulwhip
08:10.14thulspank
08:10.18thulS&M
08:10.21TorhalSunTsu: Then what could it be? nevcariel is getting a fuckton better performance on a comparable system. I'm using a Phenom Quad and he's using an Intel CoreDuo.
08:10.58SunTsuTorhal: I still am wondering, I'm having the same problems ever since 3.0
08:11.02TorhalOther than the fact that he's using Gentoo and I'm using Ubuntu...his shit is all compiled and mine is pre-fab.
08:11.39thulwell, he has optimazed shit, you got one-size-fits all
08:11.39thul:-P
08:12.02Torhalthul: But he's getting 50FPS in Dalaran, I get 5-8, or 12-14 when its empty.
08:12.02SunTsuTorhal: Do you know whether your wine uses HAL?
08:12.16nevcairielTorhal, 111243 frames in 5.0 seconds = 22248.520 FPS
08:12.30Torhalnevcairiel: So, About 7x faster.
08:12.52TorhalSunTsu: No idea. And I hadn't used Linux in three years, so I'm unsure of where to look.
08:13.09SunTsunevcairiel: Do you know whether your wine uses HAL?
08:13.18nevcairielmine does
08:13.40Torhalnevcairiel: You're using an 9800?
08:13.40SunTsuAh! I don't either, so I will compile it with HAL support, and check again, then
08:13.41nevcairielalthough the glxgears was pure opengl performance, no wine involved
08:13.44nevcairiel8800
08:13.51nevcairieli'm a version behind 0)
08:13.55Torhalnevcairiel: Which 9800 did you suggest?
08:13.58SunTsunevcairiel: Yeah, and your performance was close to Torhal's
08:14.29TorhalSunTsu: No, I got 3165.746 FPS
08:14.35TorhalHe got over 22k
08:14.41nevcairielTorhal, a GT is the best money/performance, if you want to invest some more get a GTS
08:14.49SunTsunevcairiel: So I'd go for a difference in wine, and that was where HAL came to my mind, because I always wondered whether it affects performance
08:14.58SunTsuTorhal: ouch
08:15.10TorhalSunTsu: Exactly.
08:15.22TorhalNow: How to check for HAL, before I go sink more money into my machine?
08:15.25SunTsuI'm only getting around 1.3k fps
08:15.30TorhalSunTsu: Card?
08:15.40SunTsuTorhal: 8600GTS
08:15.49nevcairielactually i was wrong, HAL is disabled in wine right now because the gentoo ebuild doesnt support it on x86_64
08:15.58TorhalSee, my problem is I had faith in nVidia's numbering system.
08:16.07TorhalI thought 9500 was better than 8800.
08:16.13TorhalYet nevcairiel is smoking me.
08:16.31nevcairielThe first number is the generation, the second is like the "speed"
08:16.43nevcairiela x500 or even x600 are pretty low-end cards
08:16.53Torhalnevcairiel: I'd think the 9th Gen would be better than the 8th, no matter tha fucking speed. Gah.
08:17.14nevcairielWell the 9th generation was more of a marketing thing
08:17.21nevcairielthe 9800 is nearly the same as the 8800
08:17.26TorhalWay to fuck your customer base.
08:17.27thulI'm still debating using linux, but after trying 3 different live-cds, which of none managed to get online with my computer, I'm not so tempted.
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08:17.43Torhalthul: Live CDs of WHAT?
08:17.43nevcairielWell, i never buy any card without checking some performance numbers
08:18.02thulTorhal: mint linux, arch linux, ubuntu and debian
08:18.05thulthat is four actually
08:18.15Torhalnevcairiel: That was my problem, as well: My first upgrade in 5+ years and I looked at 9500 as a version number...hence, "better"
08:19.00Torhalthul: Live CDs are more one-size-fits-all than an actual installation. And since they run from the CD, that also affects performance.
08:19.27thulwell, performance is one thing, but being able to 802.x/ttls authenticate and get online trough a cat5-cable...
08:19.30thulthat should be possible :-P
08:19.50Torhalthul: Ubuntu 8.1 should be able to do wireless rather flawlessly.
08:20.02thulcat5-cable not wireless.
08:20.03TorhalThen again, it all depends on your hardware.
08:20.20Torhalthul: I know, but I said wireless because the previsou iteration of Ubuntu FAILED at it.
08:20.33Torhals/previsou/previous
08:20.34thulthe cards were supported, everything supported basically, it just doesen't do the wired peap/mscvha v2/802.x/ttls very good
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08:30.14nevcairielmeh i broke my window manager .. never stop upgrading your whole system in the middle, it leads to corrupt window managers =P
08:30.17nevcairielresumes updating
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08:31.48Torhalnevcairiel: GTS or GTX?
08:32.07Torhalnevcairiel:  It leads to corrupt whatever-the-fuck-you-were-upgrading, actually.
08:32.38Elkano8800GTX ~ 9800GTX ~ GTS250
08:33.24TorhalElkano: Danke. I thought nevcairiel said GTS, and I'm not finding that,
08:34.01SunTsuI hate languages where you don't have to define variables, I most of the time clean up typos which luac -p does not warn about, because lua just made a new, strange named variable out of it
08:35.12nevcairielTorhal, they didn't have a 9800 GTS? Oh well, there was one for 8800 =)
08:35.28nevcairielGTX is the high-performance one, then
08:35.30thulhttp://www.fmylife.com/love/761206
08:35.33thulis that you Fisker-
08:35.34thul?
08:36.14nevcairielSunTsu, luac -p -l and check for SETGLOBAL/GETGLOBAL .. that will spot "accidents" in variable names =)
08:36.42SunTsunevcairiel: Ah, thanks
08:36.46Fisker-naw i don't masturbate into socks
08:36.53wobinI have the 9800gtx
08:37.04Fisker-masturbate into milk
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08:37.46SunTsunevcairiel: Thanks, looks quite clean, now
08:37.57SunTsuAfter chasing my tail for some time
08:38.26thulFisker-: then you use that mixture as an enema on young japanese girls?
08:38.32thulor have i seen too much weird porn again :/
08:38.44nevcairielBoth, probably
08:39.03Fisker-http://www.fmylife.com/sex/762761 <-thul spotted
08:39.04thul:-D
08:39.07Torhalnevcairiel: Here's what I have: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Sku=B52-9500
08:39.20Torhalnevcairiel: Here's what I'm looking at: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4037153&CatId=3670
08:39.33thulhahaha, awesome Fisker- :-D
08:40.22nevcairielI didn't think a GTX would be that cheap
08:40.25nevcairielthats a nice price
08:40.42Torhalnevcairiel: I don't see a PSU plug on it though...
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08:40.55nevcairielits hidden behind the cover, i bet
08:41.16Torhalnev What about this: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4252534&Sku=B52-3012
08:41.53Torhalnevcairiel: BTW: TigerDirect is a wholesaler that somehow gets away with selling to the public rather than to retailers. That's why it's so cheap.
08:43.36nevcairielhttp://images.tigerdirect.com/SkuImages/gallery/large/P450-9824-08.jpg
08:43.36nevcairielthere is your power
08:43.36nevcairieltwo plugs
08:43.36Torhalnevcairiel: Holy shit. TWO
08:43.51TorhalAnd the PSU I linked has two 6-pin plugs.
08:44.24nevcairielyeah those labeld PCI-E are the right ones
08:44.51TorhalGood deal. Looks like I just spent another $200.
08:44.52TorhalHeh
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08:44.59nevcairielGFX requires alot of power these days
08:45.01TorhalThankye.
08:45.07TorhalOh, no doubt.
08:45.18nevcairielthe GPUs are alot more complex then any cpu
08:45.23nevcairielhighly specializes, though
08:45.30nevcairiel*specialized
08:47.43Torhalnevcairiel: Shit, what type of power connectors are needed for normal IDE?
08:47.53Torhal...before I place this order...
08:48.09Fisker-molex
08:48.13Fisker-4-pin molex
08:48.16Fisker-what psu you getting?
08:48.29TorhalFisker-: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4252534&sku=B52-3012
08:48.48Fisker-has 4 of those
08:48.56Fisker-and 4 sata connectors if they're sata disks
08:49.04TorhalI have one SATA, two IDE,
08:49.07SunTsuTorhal: those "peripherals"
08:49.10TorhalSo I need a different PSU
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08:49.18TorhalSunTsu: Eh?
08:49.21Fisker-if your motherboard with an 8-pin motherboard connecter btw?
08:49.26Fisker-naw Torhal
08:49.31SunTsuTorhal: "Peripheral x4"
08:49.39Fisker-there's 4 of each so you got the connectors
08:50.45TorhalFisker-: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Sku=A455-2408
08:51.28TorhalOk, I see the chart now.
08:51.33TorhalI was only looking at the specs.
08:51.36TorhalDanke.
08:51.40TorhalOrdering now.
08:51.57Fisker-wait!
08:52.04TorhalFisker-: BWAH?
08:52.08SunTsuDamn, that explains a lot "'karfreitag' from old high german 'kara' = mourning" - Karazhan anybody? ;)
08:52.19Fisker-Torhal your motherboard only got a 4-pin connector
08:52.30Fisker-unless the site is incorrect the PSU only got a 8-pin connector
08:52.32TorhalFisker-: Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
08:53.50Fisker-nevermind
08:53.53TorhalFisker-: TigerDirect is pretty fucking good, so I doubt it's incorrect.
08:53.53Fisker-The site is incorrect
08:53.58TorhalFisker-: Oh?
08:54.06Fisker-it's a 4+4-pin
08:54.10TorhalI don't wanna spend money on a PSU I can't use.
08:54.12TorhalAh
08:54.15Fisker-So you can either have it as an 8-pin or a 4-pin
08:55.11TorhalFisker-: Where did you get your information, because it says P4 MB x 0, and 8-pin X 1
08:55.46Fisker-official site
08:55.54TorhalOh, 20+4 pin x 1
08:55.57Fisker-http://www.bfgtech.com/bfgr550wgspsu.aspx
08:56.05Fisker-click detailed specs
08:56.41Fisker->1 x 24-Pin (20+4-Pin) Motherboard Connector
08:56.41Fisker->1 x 8-Pin (4+4-Pin) CPU 12V Power Connector
08:56.53sb|workSunTsu: wtf? i dont get it.. :o
08:58.31nevcairielI get what he wants to say, but i don't really think there is a relation
08:58.38Fisker-godfather 2 tiems
09:00.20TorhalFisker-: I knew you weren't just a blood-warring troll!
09:00.22Torhal:D
09:00.36nevcairielWho says he didn't troll you just now?
09:00.38nevcairiel;)
09:00.59nevcairielBut the PSU should be fine
09:01.08Torhalnevcairiel: He pointed me in the right direction. My PSU was confirmed as legit for my uses.
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09:02.52nevcairielI have one of those modular PSUs, if anyone builds a new comp and wants to get some luxury, get one. its really nice to just plug the right cables in
09:03.48Fisker-worst part about modular supplies is the limited supply
09:03.57Fisker-had a hard time finding a good one that suited my needs
09:04.34nevcairielI forgot which model i have, i got it for free from a sponsor at one of our LANs, but it worked fine for me, had all the cables i needed
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09:04.56TorhalMy GF's father gave me a nice modular PSU. Problem is, I don't know where the fuck I put the cables...hence, my buying a new one now.
09:05.39TorhalFunny thing is, I didn't have a SATA board (or a modern one , for that matter) when he gave it to me, or I would have kept better track.
09:07.26TorhalSo, if TigerDirect keeps with their usual service record, I should have my new GPU and PSU in two days.
09:07.40nevcairielon sunday?
09:07.53Torhalnevcairiel: You just hurt me.
09:08.01nevcairielwe don't get deliverys on weekends here =(
09:08.02SunTsusb|work: It was a (non existent) connection and an explanation to all the whining going on
09:08.13Torhalnevcairiel: Three days, then.
09:08.14sb|workuhm... okay
09:08.28Torhalnevcairiel: Weekends suck here, as well.
09:08.35nevcairielpeople are whining about karazhan?
09:08.50SunTsunevcairiel: people whining about everything *g*
09:09.10Torhalnevcairiel: Doesn't really matter, though, since I work Saturday and Sunday. Monday will be my playtime.
09:09.20nevcairielI need to start doing attumen every week for the mount
09:09.20sb|workyay, ETA 1h :p
09:09.33SunTsunevcairiel: really wasn't meant to be taken serious
09:09.37Torhalnevcairiel: Why Attumen?
09:09.46nevcairielBecause he drops the mount?
09:09.47nevcairiel:D
09:09.52TorhalOh, fuckage.
09:09.58TorhalI forgot.
09:10.14nevcairielI was kinda pushing all that back for dual spec
09:10.19nevcairielbecause i'm too lazy to respec all the time
09:10.42SunTsuI only saw that mount dropping - and it went to a hunter who was told by another hunter "No, I am a hunter, you only carry a gun"
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09:11.13nevcairielI've never seen it drop, but maybe i get lucky
09:11.25SunTsuand left the guild the next day
09:11.30Kalrothhaha
09:14.00TorhalSunTsu: That remark in of itself should have been enough for the raid leader to say "Ok, asshat...fuck off."
09:14.16SunTsuTorhal: Well, it was only too true
09:14.27nevcairielI don't even get what he was trying to express with that
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09:14.28TorhalSunTsu: In that case, I concede.
09:14.45Torhalnevcairiel: He was expressing "I have skills. You just shoot at things."
09:14.55Repochange definition registration to allow multi-line definitions.
09:14.58nevcairielOh, now it makes sense
09:15.38SunTsubesides he was only shooting half the time, the other time he was doing melee - most of the time didn't even have his pet out
09:16.07TorhalSunTsu: Ick. usually the huntards drop snake trap and expect the best.
09:18.27TorhalSunTsu: Do you have a suggestion for a decent Linux music player? I'd only used XMMS or Amarock before.
09:18.41nevcairielTry SongBird
09:18.47Torhalnevcairiel: Danke.
09:19.13SunTsuTorhal: audacious
09:19.41nevcairielI think i used songbird because it can sync my iPod too, or some reason like that
09:19.51TorhalSunTsu: I'll check that out as well.
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09:28.29KemayoTorhal: I liked Quod Libet, but I'm not going with mpd (with gmpc as the client)
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09:29.05hasteQuod Libet is _awesome_
09:29.14hasteby far the best media player for any OS
09:29.24hasteat least for OCD taggers
09:29.34KemayoOh yeah, it's great for ocd. :D
09:29.50KemayoI still use Ex Falso, which is just its tagging bit standalone.
09:30.36Kemayofoobar2000 is one of the few things I miss from Windows, though.
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09:31.09hastewhat do you miss from fb2k?
09:33.09KemayoUntil I found quod libet, the tagging. Since then, just some general flow stuff. I had my foobar layout all customized how I liked it, and it just generally felt easy to use.
09:33.33hastefoobar has horrible tag support :(
09:34.00hasteI wouldn't mind a console version of QL
09:34.07hastenot that I think that will happen :p
09:34.12KemayoI seem to recall I was using some addon that made it better.
09:34.36KemayoThat's sort of the problem with foobar2000 -- so much of the experience depends on which of the many, many plugins you're using.
09:34.58TorhalKemayo: I just installed Quod Libet as well, thankye.
09:36.01hasteyep, and most of the plugins are pretty horrible :p
09:36.51KemayoTrue of any system involving plugins.
09:37.07TorhalWow. Pretty fucking simple.
09:37.08hasteofc
09:37.39TorhalI installed Songbird, saw your comment, installed Quod Libet without trying Songbird, tried Quod Libet first...simplistic.
09:37.55KemayoSimple, but powerful. :D
09:38.00TorhalI'm now listening to ...And Justice For All
09:38.04TorhalBWAH!
09:38.05hastevery pureful
09:38.10hastes/pure/power/
09:38.23hasteI love the metadata search
09:38.25Torhalhaste: Methinks pureful works as well
09:39.06hastethe only downside to QL is that it's slightly slow on large libraries with heavy tagging
09:39.14hasteand that it uses quite a lot of memory
09:39.19hastenot that memory matters much
09:39.26hastewith firefox, wow and ql running I use 1.3G
09:39.28hasteof 6G
09:39.44Torhalhaste: I use 1.2 with WoW under Linux.
09:39.49TorhalDunno about with FF.
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09:39.58hastewow uses 990M here
09:40.00thulhttp://www.wimp.com/sheeplight/ <- that is so amazing
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09:40.09Torhalhaste: This is under peak, such as in Naxx.
09:40.22hastewow never uses more than 1G
09:40.35Torhal64-bit CPU?
09:40.44TorhalOr rather: Which distro?
09:40.56hastegentoo
09:41.02hastewith paludis instead of portage
09:41.05Daemonahaste uh sure it does
09:41.12hasteinstalled with the sysrescuecd
09:41.16Daemonabut currently i sit at 990 and cant prove it ;)
09:41.32hasteI also sit at 990 :)
09:41.38sb|workwow 1.2gb :o
09:41.40TorhalI used to be into tuning my shit, but I haven't used Linux in like 3 years. I'm now on Ubuntu. Thought about Gentoo, but I don't have the free time I used to have.
09:41.41hasteI haven't seen it higher
09:42.09hastethe main reason I use gentoo is because it's easy for me to stay updated and try stupid shit :p
09:42.21hastemost of the stuff I mainly run aren't in any distros package repo
09:42.23nevcairielwee my window manager is fixed
09:42.25Torhalsb|work: Then again, that was under Ubuntu 8.10, which I stopped using today. I'm on the beta of 9.0,4
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09:43.26hasteI don't care if my package is binary or not
09:43.37hasteand the compile time argument is moot anyway with i7
09:43.48hastecompiling gcc without ccache takes 4min
09:44.08hasteoo takes 23min :D
09:44.19Torhalhaste: I'm not talking about compile time: I'm talking about "Making my system be what I want" time.
09:44.50hasteI will always do that :(
09:44.50TorhalUbuntu, while probably not very efficient from my PoV, is Out-Of-The-Box to my liking.
09:45.08TorhalI can trim the fat.
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09:46.50hastetrimming the fat for me on ubuntu would mean to remove gnome
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09:47.38Torhalhaste: Indeed. However, since I lack the time I previously had (and due to dependency restrictions) I haven't really tried.
09:48.04TorhalI tried to remove CUPS. It wanted to fucking remove GNOME.
09:48.08TorhalI mean...WTF?
09:48.21hasteinstalling a gentoolike system here, with gcc 4.3, custom kernel and wmii -- took about one hour here
09:48.36hastethat includes recompiling the entire system to the new gcc and setting up configs
09:49.10Torhalhaste: I'll probably transition to Gentoo since I like optimization, and because of what I just said.,
09:49.27TorhalCUPS should NOT be tied intimately to gnome-desktop
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09:50.44TorhalFisker-: Did you bring the inflatable hookers?
09:51.09hastewho needs inflatable when I have a dead one in my closet!
09:51.45Torhalhaste: She's self-inflatable.
09:51.50TorhalThat counts. FTW.
09:52.05Fisker-i hate EA and their fucking shoddy coding
09:52.14Fisker-"Lets fucking do all sorts of shit and crash your fucking computer"
09:52.22TorhalFisker-: I thought you simply hated them for their shoddy management.
09:52.25hasteITC: Fisker- becoming a developer for EA
09:52.38Fisker-ITC?
09:52.54hastein this channel
09:52.57TorhalInternet Tyrant Curriculum
09:53.02TorhalOh. My bad.
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09:55.01hastealmost the same!
09:55.27Fisker-i'm gonna cut you up haste
09:56.54Fisker-haha they gotta be fucking kidding me
09:57.02Fisker-their save system is ass
09:59.04hastelike you could do any better job!
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10:40.01orionshocki hate patterns...
10:40.22Groktarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7wkVIHbitY
10:40.38orionshocki need one that will match "LF", but not match LFM
10:42.05Groktari had a class called finite automata like 5 years ago
10:42.39Groktarwe spend so much time doing that
10:42.45renchaporionshock: "lf[^m]?" ?
10:43.26orionshockmatches both :(
10:51.02RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/raidsort/. RaidSort. Illiai (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
10:51.07RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/auctionstogo/. Broker_AuctionsToGo. SunTsu (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
10:51.12RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/requeue/. Requeue. kollektiv (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
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10:52.02SunTsunevcairiel: Thanks
10:59.33Torhal@describe auctionstogo
10:59.34RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/projects/auctionstogo/. Broker_AuctionsToGo. Broker: AuctionsToGo Ever wanted to remember which items you put into AH? AuctionsToGo is a small LDB-Addon, which will show you all your auctions on the current realm. It currently is in a pre-Alpha...
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11:00.07TorhalSunTsu: Un-pre-alpha that shit. :D
11:00.31SunTsuTorhal: Not while it is indeed that ;) Shit ;)
11:02.00SunTsuDoing my first steps in lua, so way to go until the first alpha or even beta
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11:06.50Repo10acronymguide: 03OrionShock * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory):
11:06.53Repochange methods for definition registration due to regexes being weird. update def file to follow new format.
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12:10.06Repo10acronymguide: 03OrionShock * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): definition update
12:13.24orionshock~wowalert
12:13.25purlhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert]
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12:31.17orionshocknevcairiel: i feel gypped..  new author makes a project, get's approved before they've even uploaded an inital commit... but me, i've got 2 here and i don't even have approval :P
12:32.04RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/acronymguide/. AcronymGuide. OrionShock (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
12:32.05nevcairielhappy now?
12:32.10orionshock* .. for my 3rd one..
12:32.21orionshocknevcairiel: i was j/k man.. i knew you'd get around to it :)
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12:32.40orionshockbut yes, im happy now :)
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12:42.54RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/langoustine/. Langoustine. kagaro (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
12:43.53kagarothanks nev
12:43.53nevcairielI hope thats done yet, and not only a wild idea!
12:44.01kagaroive got a lot of code stubbed already
12:44.18kagaroworking on my ready check window code
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12:44.27nevcairielYou didn't mention it, but what about the oRA cooldown broadcasts/display?
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12:45.06kagaroi dont use them
12:45.15nevcairielI do, so see to it :p
12:45.28kagarobigwigs handles that in common auras
12:45.56kagarooRA cooldowns you have to actually macro it in your spells
12:46.08kagaroor type it out
12:46.13nevcairielhuh? no you don#t
12:46.52nevcairielman my shift key is on fail again
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12:52.10kagarowell it watches rebirth, souldstones and di
12:52.23sb|workkagaro: why is it better than ora/ctra? :p
12:52.42kagaroi didnt say it was jsut less fluff
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12:55.10kagaroi wana trim it down some, minimal as possible
12:55.28kagarono dew drop stuff, just ldb clicks
12:57.30nevcairielyou should just poke [Ammo] more to work on oRA3
12:57.46kagaroi got tired of waiting
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13:09.43Repo10acronymguide: 03OrionShock * r7 core.lua:
13:09.46Repofix table-list ordering in adding a definition. (t[i] = nil) ~= (tremove(t, i))
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14:03.42Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5089 Ulduar/IronCouncil.lua:
14:03.45RepoIronCouncil: Changed Overwhelming Power(It now causes a meltdown after 25 sec)
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14:24.35Repo10priorityqueue: 03Pericles * r17 / (11 files in 2 directories): PriorityQueue:-
14:24.38RepoUpdated codebase with Priest, Paladin & Warlock modules, partial mage module too.
14:24.41RepoRefactored some code to remove duplication in class modules.
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14:34.59ckknighthttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=773
14:38.14Repo10pick-pocket-timer: 03kunda * r5 PickPocketTimer.lua: PickPocketTimer:
14:38.18Repo- added InCombat check (PickPocketTimer_Frame is hidden now if in combat)
14:38.21Repo- added UnitIsDead check (Timer is deleted now if Unit is dead and in TimerDB)
14:38.36syerenAnyone familiar with PHP / Ajax / VB here, and have a few spare minutes for me to bug them :P?
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14:41.52Grumsyeren: you are naming 2 of the worst abominations ever
14:42.06syeren:p
14:43.47HigdurGrum: not three? :D
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14:46.33Grumnothing wrong with ajax except that managers use it as a buzzword
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14:47.12Repo10pick-pocket-timer: 03kunda 04r5-release * r6 : Tagging as r5-release
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14:50.59kagarolooking for some opiniosn on this look http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/10956/REadyCheck-Sample.png
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14:52.56ckknightkagaro: not bad
14:53.06ppilateehow is it an improvement to the default frame?
14:53.14ppilateeits a step down if anything
14:53.20kagaroit a popup
14:53.24kagarothos arent unit frames
14:53.32ppilateeobviously
14:53.53kagaroit support icons for ready, waiting, not ready and disconnected
14:56.00kagaroOR2 ready check window pops up too big and in the middle of the screen, mine is small and saves position where you drag it
14:56.47thulIT IS THE NATIONAL CLEAVAGE DAY
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15:53.39AckisWorkhttp://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=271739&postcount=14 agree?
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15:55.50nevcairielpositive
15:56.35Arrowmasterkagaro: people still use the ora2 readycheck?
15:56.55nevcairielnot the readycheck itself, just the frame to show the status of the ingame readycheck
15:57.47Arrowmasterok
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16:02.07ckknightAckisWork: yea...
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16:16.13Repo10talented: 03jerry 04v2.0-beta4-3.1.9757 * r503 : Tagging as v2.0-beta4-3.1.9757
16:16.34manywhats the site to lookup the guilds history of a char
16:16.41NivFreakwowprogress?
16:16.52sb|worknah warcraftrealms
16:16.55sb|work.com
16:17.42manyyeah, what sb said. thanks ^^
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16:29.48Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r76 / (3 files in 1 directory): hai germans!
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16:47.23Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r1043 Recount_Modes.lua: - Added last pet entry to healing tooltip if merged.
16:47.33Repo- Damage and healing merged pet tooltips now show last pet that actually did damage or healed some rather than the last pet summoned regardless.
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16:50.07Repo10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r179 / (2 files in 1 directory): Collaborate with myself
16:58.55NeoTronanyone know php?
17:00.09NeoTronhttp://ace.pastey.net/111582 fails if the input string uses UTF8 (which is why ctrt export fails for MagicDKP at times it seems)
17:00.23NeoTronit's a redundant check but I dunno how to work around it without removing it
17:01.05Repo10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07master * c35f6b6 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Massive update for the Bonus Frame. Can compare profiles now. Hit, Crit and Haste ratings are somewhat broken.
17:01.37pastamancerNeoTron: so the .*? isn't matching multi-byte utf8 characters?
17:02.07NeoTronI guess so
17:02.28NeoTronit's odd since .* should match any individual byte. I don't know if it's aware that it's UTF8 or not
17:02.34pastamancerhttp://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=19346
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17:03.30pastamanceralso, using regex to parse xml is such an amazingly horrible thing to do
17:04.40NeoTronoh you don't have to tell me
17:04.56NeoTronit's a fucking retarded validation step in the CTRT importer for eqdkp
17:05.02NeoTronremoving those three lines and it all works fine
17:05.07NeoTrongo figure
17:05.07pastamancerI knew the ctrt import plugin for eqdkp was bad, but I didn't realize it could curdle milk
17:05.38NeoTroni've removed the lines for a long time but other people are having the same issue, naturally, so I wanted to know if there was another way than "fix the importer"
17:05.43NeoTronand I really don't think there is
17:07.01pastamancerpurge with fire
17:08.09pastamancerphp even has an xml parser!
17:13.30Fisker-FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
17:13.44manyit has some API to expat
17:13.48Fisker-we will be taking some extra time with the Equipment Manager and it will instead be released some time after patch 3.1
17:13.50Fisker->:E
17:13.55Fisker-lazy gits!
17:14.02manythat doesnt make it cool
17:14.33ulicbooo, no built-in Equipment Manager for 3.1 :(
17:14.40durcynAKA "tracking item links with prismatic gems is haaard."
17:14.46ulicthat's lame
17:15.03ulicwe've had addons to do it for eons, how can they screw that up :)
17:15.25NeoTronpastamancer: oh it DOES parse the xml.. right after that "validation"
17:15.42many?
17:15.47pastamancerNeoTron: wow... that's some serious facepalm
17:15.57manywheres validation in there
17:16.12NeoTron"validation" not validation
17:16.26NeoTronctrt code makes eqdkp code like like a work of gods
17:16.34NeoTronctrt importer code rather
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17:17.12NeoTronhow about this wonderful line of clear clarify
17:17.13NeoTron<PROTECTED>
17:17.21NeoTrontheir variable names are so horrible
17:17.49Megalonto be worse then eqdkp
17:17.51NeoTronall this, alll that, alll something else
17:17.55Megalonyou have to work really hard on it
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17:18.02NeoTronMegalon: not just worse, but lightyears worse
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17:18.13Megalon:S
17:18.17sariel42_hey all
17:18.21pastamancerhmm, is there a pure lua yaml parser/generater?
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17:18.42sariel42_anyone know where/to whom is the best place to report a routes addon bug? forums or does the guy have a site?
17:18.47Megaloni looked at it when my guild needed a dkp system
17:19.01Megalonright after looking through the source i started my own dkp :x
17:19.21manyall php is :<
17:19.51pastamancersariel42_: http://www.wowace.com/projects/routes/create-ticket/
17:20.03sariel42_thanks much! :)
17:20.17sariel42_i can reliably crash wow using routes now
17:20.51pastamancernice
17:21.19ArrowmasterClasshow?
17:21.21pastamanceractual crash or just make it hang?
17:21.38ArrowmasterClassare you doing a foreground optimization on a large zone?
17:22.03sariel42_no, actual crash
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17:22.14sariel42_don't even get to the making of the route
17:22.28sariel42_i select un'goro from the dropdown and punch in name and hit okay and it kills my client
17:22.47sariel42_i have the most recent gatherer and routes, i disabled all addons except for them, i tried doing it IN and OUT of un'goro
17:22.55sariel42_i'm searching the thread now
17:23.00sariel42_see if anyone has a fix
17:23.09pastamancerdo you get the blizzard crash reporter popping up after wow crashes?
17:25.11sariel42_ah he did fix it in his thread
17:25.17sariel42_Thanks for pointing me to the right thread :D
17:25.27sariel42_yes and reported it
17:25.39sariel42_thanks guys i'm goign to go crack opent he lua and do the fix he lists
17:26.00Fisker-kicks sariel42_ in the back "WOOOOOO"
17:26.30Lukianhands sariel42_ GatherMate instead
17:26.51sariel42_is gathermate better?
17:28.05sariel42_nvm i don't need to do anything he has an untested newer version to fix that problem specifically :)
17:30.58sariel42_and it works :D
17:33.59Dark_Elfgathermate is better :p
17:35.08Dark_Elfhmm for some reason the flighthud and wowequip arent showing up as updated on wowace site
17:36.02sariel42_k guys have a good one
17:36.06Kuja^i think its intended for wowruqip, it only packages on betas and releases
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17:49.33Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r2 / (36 files in 12 directories):
17:49.36RepoInitial import for MrTrader. Equivilent to v0.1 functionality.
17:51.27Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.1 * r3 : Tagging as v0.1
17:53.17Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r4 svn-commit.tmp: Removing junk file.
17:55.45Fisker-undresses Lukian
17:56.16Lukiantoo late
17:56.40Lukianalready naked, about to get in the shower :p
18:01.26Primergg wowarmory
18:02.14PrimerFind an upgrade, tanking plate helm: Greathelm of the Unyielding Bull. Drops from Karazhan, Requires level: 75, Drop rate: none
18:02.35quiescenshop to it
18:03.18quiescensat least its a boe
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18:07.33PrimerI really should learn to DK
18:07.45Primermy DK's 75...and I don't know wtf a "death rune" is
18:07.55quiescenswildcard~
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18:08.57quiescensif you want tanking gear just get all the "cobalt (insert slot)" bits made and just work with that until 80 probably
18:09.08quiescensreplacing what you can from quests
18:09.10GrumAnyone using grid and happen to know how you can use text providers for the 'left side' or 'right side' ?
18:09.19Primeryou mean "tempered saronite"
18:09.46PrimerI had the entire set made and have equipped it as I've leveled
18:09.57Primerat 70, I had already bought the entire cobalt set
18:10.11quiescenstempered saronite was too much effort
18:10.16Primernot at all
18:10.37Primerit was 20 cobalt bars, 74 saronite bars, and 3 crystallized earth
18:10.44Primerand a BS + tip
18:11.05Primerfor 8 items
18:11.52Primerwhich are actually damn good
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18:21.23Repo- Fixed a bug for merged pet tooltips when last pet hasn't yet seen combat.
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18:35.49AeyanPrimer: Grind that wyrmrest faction =P
18:36.09Primeryeah, they have some nice tanking gear
18:36.21PrimerI hate grinding faction though
18:36.39AeyanWell, they don't have many dailies
18:36.41PrimerI'd rather just make crafted crap and get carried through Naxx :)
18:36.52AeyanSo grind is basically just do all their quests and when you get to 80, use the tabard
18:36.56Primeryeah, it really sucks getting wyrmrest
18:37.10Primerwell, once I'm 80 I'll just carried through Naxx
18:37.21AeyanHehe
18:40.10quiescensif you're going to um
18:40.20quiescensskip doing 5man instances
18:40.50quiescensthen you probably want to focus on argent thingy rep moreso than the others
18:41.07Aeyanand Hodir
18:41.14quiescensthe various rep equipment you can potentially replace but you can't replace the helm enchant just because you're in naxx
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19:31.49Daemonafor the germans over here ... http://www.stmi.bayern.de/presse/archiv/2009/127.php
19:32.12Daemonaif you think the bavarian csu party cant get more stupid, they impress you with another new level of stupidity
19:33.32SunTsuDaemona: all parties are on a highway downwards
19:34.03Daemonayeah but they are taking the "killer games" discussion to a whole new level -.-
19:34.04nevcairielTötungstrainingssoftware? what a abonimation of a word
19:34.29SunTsunot that "killer games" is enough prejudice
19:34.34Daemonawhich doesnt change a thing to blame teenagers shooting people on fps games.
19:36.01nevcairielI think its more troubeling that all school shooters had parents with guns, not that they played a game :P
19:36.29SunTsunevcairiel: Even that is the wrong way to look. Guns are just a tool
19:36.43SunTsunobody uses them that way without reason
19:37.39ckknightadmins: don't mess with the approval queue for a few minutes
19:37.49nevcairielThere will always be troubled kids, but take away their tools, and they can't shoot people
19:38.18ckknightwho is giving these kids guns? :P
19:38.19nevcairielYou can try to find the reason why they did it etc, but not like you can control the way of life of all children/teenagers
19:38.34nevcairielckknight: they steal them from their parents, usually
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19:38.53SunTsuckknight: the last one just took the guns his father had lying around in the bedroom
19:39.03ckknightnevcairiel: okay, and the parents should be held responsible in that case for not securing their gun and teaching their child proper practices
19:39.38ckknightblaming video games is absurd
19:39.45SunTsuckknight: blaming guns is, too
19:39.52ckknightI agree
19:40.00nevcairielits an easy solution
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19:40.11nevcairielbecause the underlying problem cannot be solved in any timely manner
19:40.25SunTsuBut that are the only points in discussion here, right now, sadly
19:40.45nevcairielDid they ever find the motive for the last shooting?
19:41.51SunTsunevcairiel: Does anybody really care to investigate? It's all about the blame game
19:42.04nevcairielThey probably try
19:42.11nevcairielbut papers dont print it
19:42.18SunTsuand putting games onto the same level as child porn
19:43.23ckknightthat is absolutely absurd
19:43.54SunTsuckknight: But they do. There are politicians that repeat that claim over and over again
19:44.01ckknight*sigh*
19:44.10ckknightbut CP is so innocent
19:44.11ckknightjk
19:44.25nevcairielBecause those politicians probably cannot even turn on a computer
19:44.26SunTsuand in parallel they work on internet censorship, officially against child porn *hint*
19:44.30durcynit's a victimless crime, except for all the victims!
19:44.42nevcairielthe one with those claims are all too old for our generation
19:45.57SunTsuEither that ot it's malicious intent
19:46.13nevcairielBut of course they use the "fear" every parent has about something like that happening at their childs school
19:46.17nevcairielbecause elections are up
19:46.51Pazza_thats just typical american mentality needing to pass blame for their own haneous actions.
19:47.07SunTsuPazza_: but it's about germany
19:47.07nevcairielwe're not talking about america
19:47.11SqueeG=p
19:47.20Pazza_haha
19:47.50Pazza_i hold to my comment. I was just in a dispute with someone on a similar topic. i was like oh shit... more
19:47.50SunTsu.o0( same shit, differenz country )
19:48.17nevcairielthe americans would just hand out more guns so some random guy could stop the shooter earlier, here they go around blaming games =)
19:48.40Pazza_we do the same here... there's always something/someone to blame
19:49.10SunTsunevcairiel: I sometimes wonder if there is a certain reasons our politicians don't want us to have guns..
19:49.22nevcairiel(and of course its the CSU again, those guys need to step down, silly bavarians)
19:49.45KalrothGermans don't get red blood either, it's too .. bloody!
19:49.51nevcairielindeed
19:49.54nevcairielhas to be green
19:50.00nevcairielso it can be sold as cyborgs
19:50.03KalrothGermans are aliens imo
19:50.06Pazza_cause its hard to politically rate someone's intellect and most people are too stupid to have a gun,.
19:51.24nevcairielI wonder what we would have left if they were to ban every game that would somehow allow the player to kill something
19:51.47nevcairielI can't play sports game, it drives me mad
19:51.54Pazza_Tailspin
19:51.55KalrothWhat we really need arelocal Minority Report crime fighting teams, with the smarts and wit of CSI task force leaders and the resolve of Jack Bauer.
19:51.55Pazza_lol
19:51.56CrazyBennyhello kitty online?
19:51.59KalrothNo more crime!
19:52.04Kalrothare local*
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19:52.22Pazza_if hellow kitty were the only form of entertainment, I think it would increase the crime/murder rate
19:52.30nevcairielsuicide, imho
19:52.32KalrothPazza_: Suicide*
19:52.35Pazza_lol
19:52.51nevcairielwell or we would hunt politicians for sport
19:53.37SqueeGOne problem is older generations of people that've been removed from normal soceity for too long up in their capital seats, trying to determine what's right for the new young plebes
19:53.38KalrothCombine the best of two; a game called Hello Politician, where you get to hunt politicians dressed up as .. wait, nevermind.
19:53.49SqueeGOn top of politicians only looking out for themselves
19:53.57SqueeGand people being lethargic
19:53.59SqueeG=D
19:54.12Pazza_tbh... i think shooting lobyists should be legalized
19:54.22Pazza_that would fix a lot
19:54.52SqueeGI think shooting current "law makers" would solve a lot
19:55.01nevcairielThe last year before elections is pointless anyway, politicians only watch their own ass, say/do anything to please the public, screw the future, only now is important
19:55.02SqueeGJust get rid of em all, and start over
19:55.22Pazza_wtb a world reboot button
19:55.26SqueeGIt's mostly becaue people don't keep the politicians afraid, nev
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19:56.00SqueeGif people pushed their "will" on the bastards more often, then they wouldn't be so quick to flip flop so often
19:56.08nevcairielThats where i kinda like the US system, at the end of the second term, the president can do all the unpopular (but necessary) stuff, because he doesnt really care about re-election anymore.
19:56.11SqueeGBut instead people let them do what they want, until it's time for re-election
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19:56.55Pazza_the only good thing bush did end of term was piss off cheney
19:57.14nevcairielbush isn't really a good example <.<
19:57.31Pazza_lol
19:57.57Pazza_i'll stop talking... only thing i know about germany is that no matter what they say in german, its scary lol
19:58.24NeoTronGerman is a language ment for barking orders
19:58.26Stanzillahttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/16137214236-equipment-manager-update.html
19:58.27Stanzilla>.<
19:58.32SunTsuPazza_: Then you never heard anybody talking in saxonian accent
19:58.47ckknight_Even "Ich liebe dich" sounds angry.
19:58.59NeoTronStanzilla: lame indeed
19:59.19Megalongerman is scary?
19:59.21StanzillaI wonder what bugs they are talking about
19:59.22Megalonwhat about arabic :S
19:59.27nevcairielThat reminds me .. i saw this ep of an tv series last week, where that guy went to germany for some shit, and everyone there talked with a stupid english/american accent. Like, go find some real germans to play your german people <.<
19:59.29Stanzillackknight: "fick dich!" is angry :p
20:00.34Pazza_Ich leibe dich nich
20:00.39SunTsunevcairiel: Well, you have that all the time if somebody says something russian
20:00.43MegalonStanzilla: on the other hand "fick mich!" is not :P
20:00.44Pazza_thats so cruel how they negate it at the ned
20:00.45Pazza_end
20:00.49Pazza_its like
20:00.52Pazza_I love you... NOT
20:00.56SqueeGforce a one term cool down on every politician
20:00.57StanzillaMegalon: :P
20:00.58nevcairielSunTsu: i don't understand russian, so i dont care!
20:01.03nevcairielbut it annoyed me <.<
20:01.15SqueeGdon't limit the times they can be elected, just force them out of office for a full term, before they can run again
20:03.25nevcairielSadly, changing the way a government works is kinda impossible
20:03.37nevcairielEspecially if the politicians like it that way
20:03.57SqueeGget enough people pissed off... xD
20:04.03SunTsuproblem is, elections are coming up and there isn't a single party I could vote for
20:04.19MegalonDer Trog is der gleiche, nur die Sau ändert sich.
20:04.19nevcairielyeah, i'm not really sure what to do with my vote
20:04.20Megalon:7
20:04.41nevcairielProbably just paint some funny faces on the sheet
20:04.45Pazza_look at the options we had...
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20:09.30SqueeGwhat's with the non-WoW background images on WoW sites, lately?
20:10.25ckknightmonies
20:11.03SqueeGi find it pretty damn funny when i got to WoWI and see an Ork or Conan staring at me :p
20:11.27nevcairielwow has orcs
20:11.36SqueeGnot Orks thought
20:11.37SqueeGthough*
20:11.46Arrowmasterwho the hell would pay to put a WoW ad on a wow fansite
20:12.12SqueeGwhat about a WoW-related add instead? :p
20:12.57Pazza_like gold farmer ads? :-/
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20:13.48SqueeGvideo cards, LAN cards, guides, etc
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20:20.23Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r5 / (2 files in 2 directories):
20:20.26RepoChange to start using external libs rather than including them.
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20:34.35Axodiousso has anyone else played this mybrute thing
20:34.46Axodiouskinda fun, for being something you do ~5 minutes a day
20:38.41CursesJust a question, does anyone know of an alternative to PallyPower?
20:38.53SunTsuCurses: ZOMGBuffs
20:39.30Curseshmm alright I will scope that out...thanks
20:45.39Repo10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1623 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList:
20:45.42Repo- fixed problem with SetProgressBar not updating numbers correctly
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20:52.13AxodiousCurses zomg buffs & paladin buffer on wowi
20:53.05Cursessweet thanks
20:54.08Repo10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r148 / (2 files in 2 directories): YurrCombatLog:
20:54.11Repo- added support for crits, absorbs, block, etc
20:54.14Repo- changed the style of energize effects equal to SCL
20:54.20ramozhttp://www.amazon.com/Top-Selling-Male-Masturbator-Kit/dp/B001V9R8EA/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1238711791&sr=8-1
20:54.27ramozCheck customers also bought
20:54.33sb|workwhats wrong with PP Curses?
20:55.17Axodiousthe things that i thought were wrong with it might be getting fixed in 3.1
20:55.18Axodious:o
20:55.37Cursesnothing I was just was wondering if their were any alternatives
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20:58.08Repo10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory):
20:58.20RepoTradeskill Menu and DB should be using spell IDs and letting WoW do the actual translation now.
20:58.41SqueeGlol fleshlight
20:59.53SqueeGAhahaha, that's awesome ramoz xD
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21:02.55aestilare there good mods that start and stop combat log for boss encounters?
21:05.20ulicsounds like a great idea
21:05.36durcynaestil: LoggerHead
21:05.48durcynaestil: oh, boss encounters?  hrm.
21:06.45ulicYou could do it for raid bosses similar to how loot loggers work, would have to do something different if you wanted to do it for 5-mans.
21:10.38ulicI tried to suggest something like that for transcriptor & bigwigs, that you could put a flag in BigWigs for a boss, then people that opted in, could have Transcriptor start on stop for bosses that the BigWigs team wanted logs of.
21:13.09aestilit would be cool
21:13.31aestili'd like it, but as of now there is no such mod to just turn it on for bosses?
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21:22.52ulicaestil: not that I know of, you want raid bosses & 5-mans?  Just getting an idea of what you want in case I write something
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21:33.29aestili only need it for raids
21:33.37aestili rarely run 5 mans personally.
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21:39.04vhaarrulic: I didn't get any patches for that :p
21:39.09vhaarrbut it'd be simple to write
21:39.41vhaarraestil: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12792-BossLogger.html
21:41.07Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r5090 Ulduar (4 files in 1 directory): Ulduar: frFR Update
21:41.11aestilwow.  thanks rabbit.
21:41.32aestilthat was too much cause you did my research for me!
21:41.43vhaarrresearch? it took me 20 seconds :p
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21:41.56NeoTronvhaarr: will closetgnome keep working in 3.1 w/o the equip manager?
21:42.05NeoTronI assume it was checking for equip manager functionality
21:42.31vhaarrNeoTron: it uses the eq manager in 3.1, but the old version will keep working, yes
21:42.40NeoTron3.1 won't have the eq manager
21:42.44vhaarrreally
21:42.46NeoTronthey postponed it
21:42.46vhaarrhow come?
21:42.48NeoTrondue to fail
21:42.48vhaarraha
21:42.51aestilvhaarr: my point exactly.  ty anyways.
21:42.59NeoTronlikely related to things like prismatic gems
21:43.16vhaarrNeoTron: yeah they really failed with that in the first few builds
21:43.21aestilgoogle reader is addictive and is wasting hours of my day at work.
21:43.26vhaarrbut then in the latest builds they added some convenience API functions for those things
21:43.32NeoTronwill CG allow me to use my OLD sets even with EQ manager in the game?
21:43.42NeoTronmainly for converting the sets
21:44.00vhaarrNeoTron: the only way to do that is to equip the CG sets one by one and re-save them
21:44.07NeoTronunderstood
21:44.09vhaarryou can only save equipped items with the blizz eq manager
21:44.15NeoTronjust curious of the old funfctionality remains
21:44.26NeoTronok so LOAD works with old sets, save doesn't?
21:44.29vhaarrsince 3.1 won't have the EQ manager, closetgnome will be identical in 3.1
21:44.36NeoTronright I'm thinking ahead :)
21:44.43vhaarryeah we'll see when that time comes
21:44.46NeoTronkk
21:44.51vhaarrthey're likely to redesign the API anyhow then
21:44.54vhaarrsince they're postponing it
21:45.00vhaarrso I can't really say how things will be
21:45.09SunTsu3.1 won't have the EQ-Manager? Now they only have to take out Ulduar..
21:45.16ChompersWith java is it possible to iterate over an arraylist of objects and total up an integer stored in each object?
21:45.18Axodiousdid they manage to make items stay in there spot when using it?
21:45.33NeoTronI dunno what exactly it was that failed
21:45.35vhaarrChompers: of course
21:45.36Axodiouslike, swap spots instead of adding to first empty slot
21:45.37Chompersthought i'd ask, maybe someone has experience with them
21:45.39NeoTronbut it wasn't working satisfactory
21:45.50vhaarrAxodious: "their" is the word you want
21:46.08Axodiouser yeah, my bad
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21:46.45vhaarrNeoTron: does the latest PTR build still have the EQ manager?
21:47.02vhaarrchecks
21:47.22vhaarrah, I need to patch
21:48.08HjalteThe announcement came after the new build, and I didn't see anyone report that the RQ manager was missing.
21:48.18vhaarryeah I know, hence why I'm asking
21:48.18HjalteEQ*
21:49.15SunTsuso, when do they pull out dual specc?
21:49.19vhaarrooh nexuiz 2.5
21:49.55AxodiousSunTsu i'm pretty sure they 'd push the patch back before that
21:49.56Axodiousthey'd*
21:50.09Stanzillavhaarr: how is BW3 coming along? :P
21:50.21vhaarrgood
21:50.32Stanzillacool :D
21:50.33aestilBW3 will be wonderful.
21:50.34vhaarrshould be ready for icecrown
21:50.52aestillawl!
21:50.59aestilworse than blizzard :)
21:51.05vhaarr^^
21:51.12aestilmy guild has turned into a DBM bunch of people.
21:51.18aestili've just turned off boss mods atm
21:51.23aestilnaxx was too easy to need it anyways.
21:51.29StanzillaI heard it will be ready for the patch thath as housing
21:51.33Stanzilla-h
21:51.47SunTsu"that as"? ;)
21:51.54vhaarraestil: indeed, which is why I didn't update the old 60-man version of the bossmods at first
21:51.54Stanzillathat has
21:51.58Stanzilla:/
21:52.11KalrothDoes anyone know when a player unitid expires, assuming he doesn't transfer server?
21:52.11aestilI
21:52.22aestilvhaarr: 40 man?
21:52.22vhaarrright, eh, yes
21:52.32vhaarror "lvl 60", whichever you prefer
21:52.34aestilalso, why isn't there a mod that does what WMO or WWS does, but ingame?
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21:52.44vhaarrbecause xinhuan hasn't written it yet
21:52.46aestilits 'possible'
21:52.48aestilright?
21:52.48vhaarr~seen xinhuan
21:52.53purlxinhuan <n=xinhuan@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/xinhuan> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 3d 8h 36m 46s ago, saying: 'the test realm egg thing happened to me too'.
21:52.53vhaarrhe was talking about it some weeks ago
21:53.01Kalrothaestil: why'd you want it ingame?
21:53.06gedgolddoes anybody got this problem? "23:44:45 cl-event
21:53.08gedgold23:44:46 cl-event
21:53.10gedgold23:44:46 cl-event
21:53.12gedgold23:44:48 cl-event" using prat? :P
21:53.14gedgoldops sorry for spam -.-
21:55.09aestilKalroth: seems fun and useful thing to do?
21:55.15aestilwmo is stupid slow
21:55.18aestilwws is innacurate?
21:55.23Chompershttp://www.pastey.net/111596  this is my method so far, error's included at the bottom, im unsure why it's giving it as the external method should be returning an int value.
21:55.29Axodiousstasis!
21:55.31Axodiousstasis > all
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21:56.10Chompersif anyone has some time to check it out, would really help
21:56.29NeoTronaestil: likely because it's very expensive
21:56.38NeoTronin the memory use department
21:56.44NeoTronespecially if you want historical data
21:57.08Kalrotha normal full raid log is like 140-150mb
21:58.00SunTsustasiscl always gives lower numbers than wws
21:58.02CrazyBennyChompers: is Card.getCardNumber static method?
21:59.05CrazyBennyif not, it seems your accessing a class, instead of its instance
22:00.20Chompershmm okay
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22:06.12aestilNeoTron: but what if it was only bosses?
22:06.20aestilalso, if this content isn't stupid easy
22:06.29aestiland we aren't killing like 16 bosses in one night
22:06.33aestilthen it won't be as bad.
22:06.36Axodiouseventually people will be
22:06.37aestilwell, i guess it will
22:06.41aestilcuase of wipes
22:06.52aestilif you have the ram though, why does it matter?
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22:08.01ChompersCrazyBenny: it's static, all it does is return the int value as a return statement, with it being in the Card class, i assumed it would be Card.getCardn...etc
22:08.25Chompersi'm probably missing something basic
22:08.34ckknightpaste?
22:08.49CrazyBennyhard to say from what you pasted
22:09.04Chomperscan i add anything else to make it easier?
22:09.27ckknightChompers: the Card class
22:09.36CrazyBennyidd
22:09.55Chompersgot it
22:11.12ckknightfigured it out?
22:12.41Chompershttp://www.pastey.net/111599
22:13.22Chomperscard class + few lines from the Game class, variables and constructor
22:14.15CrazyBennyyour getCardNumber() in Card class is missing int parameter, as you're callign it getCardNumber(index)
22:14.25Repo10charge-meter: 03Starinnia 041.0.0 beta1 * r36 : Tagging as 1.0.0 beta1
22:16.14CrazyBennynah, just try to change current = Card.getCardNumber(index); to hand.get(index).getCardNumber()
22:16.30CrazyBennyas hand is the list
22:16.37Chompersgood idea
22:16.49aestilbosses are completely immune to wyvern sting right?  since they don't get cc'd they don't take damage from it?
22:17.50Chompersthanks for your help CrazyBenny, i've learnt something tonight
22:18.06Repo10langoustine: 03kagaro * r2 / (14 files in 3 directories): Langoustine: initial commit stubs
22:19.24CrazyBennyChompers: best way would be prolly http://www.pastey.net/111602
22:20.02CrazyBennyif you get used to this for cycle, it can save you a lot of trouble in future:)
22:20.05Chompersyeah i hate this while loop
22:20.41Chompersi've been using an iterator for counting total objects in arrays and such
22:20.46Chompersused a while out of desperation
22:21.14Repo10langoustine: 03kagaro * r3 Langoustine.lua: Langoustine: fixed a typo
22:23.23CrazyBennyif you iterate over whole array, just use for loop ;)
22:33.03Cheadsuhm isn't there an addon that will warn you when your target casts Arcane surge? =)
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22:50.08vhaarrhaste: ping
22:50.32ckknightCrazyBenny: imo, that should be a reduce statement
22:50.33ckknight<.<
22:50.33ckknight>.>
22:51.46ckknighthand.inject(0) { |result, card| result + card.value }
22:51.48ckknightyou know you love it
22:51.51ckknight:P
22:52.39CrazyBennywell, not gonna happen :P
22:53.54ckknightwhy's that?
22:53.57ckknightjust gotta use JRuby
22:54.00ckknight:P
22:55.46kagaro|awayCrazyBenny: you should jsut unroll the loop
22:56.14kagaro|awaywell for Chompers anyways
22:56.28CrazyBennyunroll?
22:56.49kagaro|awayits card for like pokwer giht?
22:56.54kagaro|awayErr poker
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22:57.10CrazyBennymost likely
22:58.45kagaro|awayif your inly using 5 to 7 elements in an array just unroll a loop and add them directly
22:59.14CrazyBennyah, yea
23:01.42ckknightyou shouldn't unroll manually, especially in java
23:01.59Grumyeah using java is bad
23:02.13kagaro|awayGrum: says you
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23:02.31Grumand thus it is truth
23:02.45ckknighthe's got you there.
23:02.55kagaro|awayyeah but i get paid to write java
23:03.02kagaro|awayand obj-c, c++
23:03.36Grumdammit he doesnt oppose that wisdom
23:03.41Grumthe second argument is way better
23:03.48kagaro|awaygranted if I could get away with it i would write in obj-c
23:04.04Grumoh i dislike that *so* much
23:04.07Grumthe looks give me the creeps
23:04.12CrazyBennyc, eww
23:04.20ckknightobj-c's not so bad
23:04.22Grumobj-c is []-fest
23:05.23kagaro|away~lart Grum
23:05.23purlputs Grum through a wood chipper
23:05.45kagaro|awayruns to the kitchen for more pizza!
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23:17.10Chompersckk: don't confuse me with your .inject code :<
23:17.19ckknighthehe.
23:17.56ckknightChompers: basically, for each card in your hand, add it to result (which starts at 0)
23:21.58Chomperssounds decent
23:22.24hastevhaarr: pong
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23:36.20ckknightquestion: how fun is Inscription?
23:36.42NeoTronnot really
23:36.56NeoTronfollowup question: how do you define "fun"?
23:37.29ckknightsomething one gains enjoyment from
23:38.38NeoTronright.. but inscription is a wow tradeskill. no wow tradeskills are "fun". :P
23:38.59Chompersyou gain enjoyment when it's finished
23:39.19Chompersyou never have to look at the tradeskill window again
23:40.08ckknighthow's this:
23:40.09NeoTronthe lack of it gains you enjoyment :P
23:40.13ckknightrelative to other professions, how fun is it?
23:40.30Chompersbetter than others from what i've seen
23:41.35ckknighthere's a real question:
23:41.42ckknightshould I get two gathering professions?
23:41.55Chompersit's good money if you stick with it
23:42.32NeoTronif you're leveling up and need gold, go for two gathering professions (primarily mining/herbing I'd say)
23:42.45NeoTronif you want more personal benefit pick whatever is good for the class
23:43.10NeoTroninscription is pretty easy to level to around 400 (when you get the shoulder enchants). much less painful than, for example, engineering or blacksmithing
23:43.24Chompersjewelcrafting would be good for the jc only gems
23:43.33Chompersblacksmithing for the gem sockets
23:43.39NeoTronbut no longer really a cash cow it seems
23:43.53NeoTronsince ebasically everyone has a JC, gems often go for les cut then uncut
23:44.14vhaarrhaste: have you considered making the oUF aura frames Button objects instead of normal Frames?
23:44.37vhaarrhaste: I made that change locally and for my own layout I see no difference, except now they're skinnable with ButtonFacade
23:44.53vhaarrI dunno why it wouldn't work when they were just pure frames, but it didn't
23:45.03NeoTrona Button has a lot of parts to ti
23:45.22vhaarrso it's expensive then
23:45.24NeoTronyou can manually make frames that are skinnable but by doing so you'd mostly emulate a button
23:45.31NeoTronand you need globally named frames
23:45.41NeoTronButton1Cooldown etc
23:45.55NeoTronI tried to do it and decided it was just easier to derive from a button and making it inactive
23:46.24NeoTronit'd be possible to take the button template and remove everything not needed though
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23:47.13Repo33820b3: Fix tooltip inconsistency and auction time for sold items
23:47.16Repofd011d1: Remove debug output - again
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23:59.34Axodiousthey should make some pve rating required to make a raid >_> too many children making fail pugs
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