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00:04.42NeoTronPrimer: btw I think you have data in the MagicDKP zone database with invalid names. I need to add a "backfill" that fixes that
00:06.33GnarfozNeoTron: probably from before my commit that changed DefaultData
00:06.44NeoTronexactly
00:06.55NeoTronI saw the commit but if the data is already in, it's bad
00:07.04NeoTronand I never saw it because I had the "correct" data
00:07.30GnarfozNeoTron: from earlier:
00:07.30Gnarfoz<Gnarfoz> NeoTron: is there support for standbys being in the raid group in MagicDKP yet?
00:07.33Gnarfoz<Gnarfoz> NeoTron: meaning, do standbys have to be outside of the raid, currently?
00:07.37Gnarfoz<Gnarfoz> NeoTron: ooooor... can you manually specify who is on standby and who isn't? ^^
00:07.37NeoTronreally the core issue was that the default data doesn't use the exact format as the data stored in the saved var
00:07.56NeoTronstandby can 1) be in raid, 2) be in guild and have magicdkp client
00:08.06NeoTronI will add 3) sit in a special channel and have magicdkp client
00:08.15Gnarfozhm
00:08.30GnarfozI was trying out the client today, so I couldn't check the UI of magicdkp proper
00:08.31NeoTronif there is sufficient demand I might add some sort of whisper handler
00:08.59Ackisi just realized i haven't paid for wow since before january
00:09.04Axodioushmm
00:09.07Gnarfozbut the other guy (who was playing the leader part) couldn't find anything that would have let him say who in the raid is actually standby
00:09.29Axodiousim looking for an addon where similair to power auras for a cooldown counter
00:09.37Axodiousspecificly
00:09.46Axodiousim trying to put an icon for conflag beside my dot timer
00:09.54Axodiousso i know when its up
00:10.05PneumatusTellMeWhen should be able to cope with that
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00:10.35Axodiousright now with power auras i can only get it to show once it's ready :(
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00:12.41GnarfozNeoTron: pokies? :>
00:13.02NeoTronit's taken on each event
00:13.09NeoTronthere's no "ongoing standby list"
00:13.17Gnarfozhm
00:13.33Gnarfoz*confused*
00:13.33NeoTronyou don't sign up to standby, you answer a standby call within (currently) 5 minutes of an event
00:13.39NeoTronso you kill a boss
00:13.56Gnarfozyeah, it automatically said "taking attendance for event xyz" in guild chat for that
00:13.58NeoTronthe addon sends a whisper message to everyone in the guild that has a raider rank (uou choose) and that player gets a popup
00:14.08Gnarfozdidn't get a popup
00:14.11NeoTronc;ick "I'm here" and you're added to the event
00:14.22NeoTronwere the raid ranks configured?
00:14.26Gnarfozyes
00:14.31Gnarfoz(all ranks selected, actually)
00:14.35Gnarfozand I shouldn't have, because I was there, killing the boss
00:14.39Axodiousi cheated Pneumatus ;x stuck a bartender bar with 1 icon and clickthrough on there lol
00:14.45NeoTronwell then you don't get a popup
00:14.46Axodiousrather than download an entire addon for 1 thing
00:14.50NeoTronif you're in the raid you don't see it
00:14.54Gnarfozwell
00:14.56Gnarfozthat's my question
00:15.02Gnarfozhow would it work with standbys in the raid? :D
00:15.14Gnarfozdoes it do a zone compare or how would it tell them apart ^^
00:17.18NeoTronif you're in group 6+ it adds you as standby
00:17.42NeoTronit should check whether you're in a 10 man or 25 man
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00:23.08KemayoAm I misremebering, but didn't AceDB-3.0 used to have a callback for when a value in the db table was changed?
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00:26.36GnarfozNeoTron: ah... ok, group6+
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01:13.57Repo10ammo-matique: 03Anyia3 041.0 * r7 :
01:14.00RepoTagging as 1.0. No bugs found or at least reported on 1.0beta1, so this should be a good release.
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01:22.29Repo10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * 3d4a707 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits]
01:22.32Repo3d4a707: Finish config adding
01:22.35Repo3ee3a54: Merge branch 'master' into config
01:22.38Repobbc4ad1: Work on config system
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01:31.00RaydenUnithe loot rules for running raids with our allied guild changed, and no one told us
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01:33.39bubblecannonhey guys.. quick question: If I wanted a simple X line history scrolling window console type behaviour what would you recommend?  AceGUI ScrollFrame / MultiLineEditBox? Or roll my own?
01:33.53bubblecannon(ie. a glorified log window)
01:37.38pompyif you start an immortal run and you engage the first boss and somenoe dies but you manage to reset him and everyone goes out and makes a new raid, they can still try immortal again?
01:38.25Megalonpompy: yes
01:38.34Megalonyou just need get outside and reset
01:51.26RaydenUnirofl
01:51.32RaydenUniBulge-Concealing Breastplate just dropped
01:51.52RaydenUnihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=37770
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01:53.40pompyis there some graphic between the p2->p3 switch in malygos, that could like cause a seizure?
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02:08.34Repo10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r33 ChargeMeter.lua: fix slash command function
02:09.27Repo10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r34 ChargeMeter.lua: fix extra charge count
02:21.25Repo10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r35 ChargeMeter.lua:
02:21.28Repotweak slash command again, coding during Heigan as melee is fun
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02:47.25bubblecannonlol, the guild api is fail.  GuildRosterSetOfficerNote(index) where index is the currently logged on index? lolwut
02:47.40bubblecannonwru uid's imho
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02:54.45RaydenUnihow many tanks do you need to juggle a boss indefinitely?
02:55.12RaydenUni4?
02:55.55bubblecannontaunt juggle?
02:56.37bubblecannonif its taunt juggle, then depends on taunt resists and distance tanks are apart.
02:56.43bubblecannonand speed of mob
02:57.06bubblecannonbut general rule: 2 for a slow mob, 4 for a fast mob
02:57.38bubblecannonif you have people dps'ing at the same time, then you need the taunt effect constantly, so would be 4
03:00.16RaydenUnitrying to figure out if we need understudies for razuvious :D
03:00.23RaydenUnior, how long we can survive after they all die
03:02.27ckknightis DrDamage still the hip, cool addon to use or is there something better?
03:04.22RaydenUniit's what i use...
03:04.31RaydenUnii need an addon that tells me how often i dodged during a fight
03:04.39RaydenUnii don't think recount does that
03:05.21RaydenUnialso
03:05.24RaydenUnirazuvious sucks
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03:23.54bubblecannoncan anyone recommend a replacement to LibGuild-1.0?  If not, I'll look at improving it to provide 'setter' functions
03:28.06Kemayobubblecannon: I think it's still the only thing out there for what it does.
03:29.24bubblecannonkk, I'll submit a patch for setter operations.  The raw WoWAPI is a pig to do guild/officer notes.
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03:37.18Arrowmasterits not ment to do setting
03:37.23Arrowmasterjust providing info
03:39.10Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r151 Downloader/src/info/robit/dkpfetch (2 files in 1 directory):
03:39.13RepoDownloader: Use object form GUI control instead of embedded java.
03:39.35NeoTronah Idea does source control just fine if it's integrated. Good to know
03:39.48bubblecannonarrow: why wouldn't you want a library to provide guild set functions?
03:40.22Arrowmasterbecause its far too complex since you need to check if you have premission first
03:40.54Arrowmasterand the addon should be doing that itself and not just blindly callin a library function
03:41.42Arrowmasterand the library should check too incase of dumbasses but then your checking twice so it makes little sense
03:42.16bubblecannonhmm.. I can't see why the library can't provide the answer for you in a return
03:42.16Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r152 Downloader/src/info/robit/dkpfetch (4 files in 1 directory): [Downloader] Renamed main class MagicDKPDownloader
03:42.37bubblecannonso you devolve that responsiblity to the library to resolve.  That avoids doubling up.
03:42.50Arrowmasterand its a single function to set the note
03:42.54Arrowmasterwhats so hard about that
03:43.05Arrowmasterthats exactly why it shouldnt be in a library
03:43.18bubblecannonit's not really a single function
03:43.31bubblecannonif you have player 'X' you need to iterate throughout the entire guild
03:43.37bubblecannondoing an index check
03:43.42bubblecannonto find the roster index
03:43.45bubblecannonto set the officer note
03:44.06bubblecannonbecause libguild doesn't provide indexes as far as i can see
03:44.15bubblecannon(sorry for the spam, used to gchat)
03:44.17Arrowmasterbecause it doesnt store them afaik
03:44.25bubblecannonyep, thats what im patching
03:44.32Arrowmasterwhich means it would bloat the lib to add that
03:44.36Arrowmasterso it wont be added
03:45.08bubblecannonok, maybe im missing something then
03:45.20bubblecannonso whats the recommended way of setting an officer note for a player
03:45.28bubblecannonif you're using libguild
03:45.48Arrowmasterthe same way everybody else does it
03:47.32bubblecannonfor i=1, GetNumGuildMembers(true) do if(GetGuildRosterInfo(i)==guildName) then GuildRosterSetOfficeNote(i, officerNote) end
03:48.00bubblecannonthat seems an awfully expensive operation to do in every single addon that adjusts guild officer notes
03:48.16Arrowmasterhow fucking often are you setting notes?
03:49.25bubblecannonI find it hard to believe I'm being offensive here arrow.  Couldn't you just as simply argue whats the cost of a single lookup table in bytes added to a library that already stores 12 seperate lookup tables?
03:49.30Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r153 Downloader (3 files in 2 directories): [Downloader] Fixed NPE due to change in UI form creation.
03:49.33Repo[Downloader] Added file revision to the version number.
03:49.51bubblecannonall keyed by a string noless
03:50.24Arrowmasteradding features for a single dev is what turned ace2 into the pile of crap it is
03:51.03bubblecannonfrom looking through the codebase, I suspect the lack of documentation is the biggest culprit.  Finding out the 'best practice' for doing something is extraordinarily difficult.
03:51.40Repo10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r98 Locale/frFR.lua: Updates to frFR.
03:51.49bubblecannonthe wowapi is probably the best example of the 'candy machine' interface i've ever seen.
03:52.01Arrowmasterits not supported at all
03:52.01WobWorkwe get candy?
03:52.07WobWorkWhy was I not notified?
03:52.11bubblecannonlol
03:52.12bubblecannonwin
03:52.17Arrowmasterdont like it go elsewhere
03:53.26bubblecannonarrow, I'm amazed you're being so hard nosed here.  I don't think I've suggested I'm planning on going anywhere else.  Nor am I suggesting something should be rewritten.
03:53.43bubblecannonif the answer is no, then fine I'll just keep it inside my code
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03:55.00WobWorkalthough one thing you should note
03:55.13WobWorkby going through the iteration
03:55.23WobWorkyou can be certain that the index you're referring to is the target you're after
03:55.36bubblecannononly if its an atomic op
03:55.39WobWorkwhich may not be accurate in a lookup table if something happens
03:55.56bubblecannonif the event code can trigger silently between function calls
03:56.03WobWorkalright, it's -more likely- to be accurate than a lookup table
03:56.08bubblecannon:)
03:57.12WobWorkand with libraries, we're trying to minimise what they do to the bare minimum of shared usage
03:57.12bubblecannoncurrently, I've added in a sanity check that forces an iteration if the name/index mapping doesn't match what GetGuildRosterInfo() returns.
03:57.50WobWorkRather than doing the iteration in order to update the index every time someone logs in or out
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03:57.54WobWorkYou do the iteration only when you need to
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03:58.27WobWorkif you're updating the guildnote for a player every second, you might want to explore other methods of data storage =)
03:59.33bubblecannonwob: for sure.  I'm doing a guild onote update for each member of the raid (so 10 or 25 updates) once every boss kill (say 5 apart at minimum)
03:59.48WobWorkthat's fine
03:59.57WobWorkbut what if people log in and out during the raid
04:00.03WobWorkof people who -aren't- in the raid
04:00.15WobWorkyou'll be forcing unnecessary updates to your lookup table
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04:00.39bubblecannonI currently just iterate through GetRaidRosterInfo()
04:00.56WobWork^^
04:01.16WobWorkso why a lookup table at all? =)
04:01.48bubblecannonbecause raidrosterinfo() gives me player names i need a roster index key for setofficernote() unless i'm missing something here
04:02.31bubblecannonso the options becomes either iterate in O(M*N) or do it a smarter way
04:02.37WobWorkI'm just suggesting you're better off doing the iteration to update the info as required
04:02.49WobWorkbecause any lookup table will be affected by external events
04:03.03WobWorkand will need to either be updated unnecessarily, or at every change
04:03.12WobWorkwhich defeats the purpose of the lookup table
04:03.24Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r154 Downloader/src/info/robit/dkpfetch (4 files in 1 directory): [*]Downloader: Add file properties.
04:03.27Repo[*]Downloader: Don't run the reg command on non-windows platforms and used a String[] to separate the command line arguments.
04:03.46PrimerNeoTron: I just reported the curse client bug for MagicDKP
04:05.23Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r155 Downloader/src/info/robit/dkpfetch/MagicDKPDownloader.java: [*]Add svn:keyword: Revision.
04:09.12Arrowmasterthe client has all the guild info, doing an iteration over it is fairly fast
04:09.44Arrowmasteryou should only be iterating it once then
04:09.48Arrowmasterset all the notes during the same loop
04:09.50Arrowmasteryou iterate twice
04:09.52Arrowmasterthats it
04:09.54Arrowmasteronce to get your names from raidrosterinfo
04:10.00Arrowmasterand once over guildroster
04:10.04Arrowmastermake a table off all the notes you are going to set indexed by player name
04:10.08Arrowmasterand set them all in one loop
04:10.31bubblecannonyep thats the solution I was considering - it becomes an O(1) parse then
04:10.48Repo10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r99 / (3 files in 1 directory): Widen search button.
04:10.51RepoBump version number to 1.1.
04:11.36Repo10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg 04v1.1 * r100 :  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
04:11.39RepoTagging as v1.1
04:11.42RepoMajor new features:
04:11.45Repo- Sortable columns
04:11.48Repo- Localization
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04:15.01NeoTronPrimer: speaking of that, I can repeat it.
04:15.11Primercool
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04:22.27RaydenUnia rogue got it
04:22.29RaydenUni:(
04:30.23Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r156 Downloader (14 files in 5 directories): [*]Downloader: Renamed and reorganized source.
04:33.41RaydenUnii am so tired of never winning any tier gear
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04:54.16WobWork<3 Kemayo
04:58.20Repo10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r377 / (3 files in 2 directories): Work on guild sychronization
04:58.22RepoUpdated external libraries
05:07.17Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1932 / (2 files in 2 directories): Updated all professions up to Patch 3.0.9
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05:15.18Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r157 Downloader (9 files in 4 directories): [*]Downloader: Added README and LICENSE files.
05:15.21Repo[*]Downloader: Removed use of IDEA specific GUI elements (shrinking the output size significantly).
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09:18.18orionshockeek i have come to a need to talk to tekkub...
09:18.29orionshock>.>
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09:53.06Torhal@describe lern2count
09:53.08RepoTorhal: http://www.wowace.com/projects/lern2count/. lern2count. lern2count adds ABinfo castcounts to spell and actions. It has a builtin reagentcount too.
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11:22.12nevcairielckknight: Kaelten: ping, repos are down again
11:34.13Fisker-hits the ping and sends it right back as a pong
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11:47.55Daemonauhm whats the name of the addon again that will list addon channel traffic?
11:49.00selckinfubar addonspamfu is the only i know
11:49.37SunTsuDaemona: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-channelwatch/
11:50.31SunTsuDaemona: Ah, sorry, confused it, meant http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-cma/
11:50.40DaemonaSunTsu addonspam fu looks more like it, i dont want to monitor people in the channel but a breakdown on what addons spam the most
11:51.06Daemonayeah thats more like it :)
11:51.12SunTsuDaemona: I know, I just confused both addons
11:51.27selckinSunTsu: that doesn't group by prefixes does it?
11:51.59selckinor person who generates the traffic
11:52.02selckinits a bit useless
11:52.09SunTsuselckin: I don't know, I don't use it, just had in mind it existed because auf my queries for "broker" ;)
11:52.41Daemonayeah basically i want to track down DoTimer users and nuke them from orbit with screenshots of their spam during raids
11:52.54Daemonabecause its a known issue on AoE spam raid encounters
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11:53.07Daemonaaddon spam disconnecting people and stuff
11:53.13selckinyeah that one is pritty bad
11:53.36Daemonaand people just seem to not admit that they use DoTimer so you have to put it in their face
11:53.47selckinit's option they can turn off
11:54.01Daemonathe point is, even if you disable it, DoTimer doesnt stop ;)
11:54.06selckinit does
11:54.12Daemonaso it got fixed?
11:54.30selckindunno, i've been telling people to turn announce off since mid tbc, and traffic stops when they do
11:54.32Daemonai recall a version that lasted for very long that if you even disabled to syncing it kept spamming the addon chanel
11:54.56selckinyou'll get less resistance then telling them not tuse the addon
11:55.17Daemonawell there are good replacements, like event horizon, needtoknow etc
11:55.28selckindoesn't mather
11:55.58Daemonawell i always can re-route the pressure via the officer chat ;)
11:56.35Daemonacma only gives a breakdown, so i gues i stick with addonspamfu
11:57.09syerenShadowed, what will your dispel announcer be named?
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12:11.20sb|workDaemona: is DoTimer sync that bad?
12:11.43Daemonait's telling the raid how long your dots will last
12:11.45selckinit's a ton of traffic nobody cares about
12:11.46Daemonawho would ever need to know that?
12:12.08selckinput carbonite to shame in traffic generation
12:12.20Daemonahttp://elitistjerks.com/blogs/cadfael/302-fixing_chain_disconnecting.html
12:12.51Daemonacheck the pic in the spammy addons section
12:14.23Daemonaand on a side note, what is GoGoMount and why does it send messages in the guild addon channel?
12:14.52selckinkeylogger!
12:15.13selckinsoemtimes it's version checks
12:15.45Daemona34 times in 13 minutes? (from ONE user)
12:17.08selckin"GoGoMount will send a line of text on your screen when someone in the same group, raid, battleground or guild has a newer version of GoGoMount"
12:17.09selckini win
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12:18.04Daemonarather "everytime you mount it sends its version to the addon channel for .... to notify people with older versions."
12:18.07SunTsuDaemona: GoGoMount is a mount chooser
12:18.17selckinunless it's doing 20-40 messages per second i consider it well behaved
12:18.28selckinand that sounds extreme, but its not
12:18.46selckinway to many of those out there
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12:19.32DaemonaHealComm -> instant health update lib?
12:19.48DaemonaI guess i will have lotsa fun tonight profiling the addon channel spam ...
12:20.17selckinhealcomm is usefull traffic.
12:20.18Daemonawe occasionally have people disconnect on thaddius, sartharion with drakes up big aoe pulls in naxx and stuff
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12:20.27nevcairielHealComm sends a message whenever someone casts a heal
12:20.29selckinand not very spammy
12:20.45nevcairielso at a maximum one message every second
12:20.46nevcairielper user
12:20.54Daemonathough my favourite in the blog post i linked is definitly the Commanding Shout Imp aura toggle :D
12:20.58Daemonaimpressive spam
12:21.12selckinthat been reported to blizzard?
12:22.00Daemonano idea, i dont have an us account, so i cant and honestly i have far too little background knowledge to argue why its bad, but i understand as much as "spam = bad" ;)
12:22.09selckincarbonite/dottimer/healbot are the bad ones
12:22.18selckinthat most ppl use
12:22.33Daemonadamage meters that are syncing are bad too
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12:22.58selckinmost ppl use recount these days, and its quite well behaved
12:23.07selckinat least in my world/realm
12:23.30nevcairielBut its a good idea to check those again, i kinda let it slip since bc =P
12:23.40nevcairielNow if the silly svn was up..
12:23.52nevcairiel~lart Kaelten
12:23.52purlrm -rf's Kaelten
12:23.54nevcairielwake up!
12:24.10selckinif you are the one getting disconnected, disbaling those might be good ofc
12:24.20selckinbut the addon messages  i would consider acceptable
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12:24.54selckindoesn't have be the channel messages that disconnect you, just running 5 damag emeters all parsing the combatlog is bad too
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12:31.40selckinbit of a shame you can't unsub from those messages tho
12:37.18phyber5 damage meters.  you MUST be top dps on one of them!
12:38.24selckinomen/sct/recount
12:38.27selckinlook that's 3
12:38.32selckinparsing combatlog
12:38.36nevcairielomen doesnt use combatlog
12:38.40selckinused to :(
12:39.13nevcairielthere is still a difference for real combatlogs though, they store the data and calculate stuff with it
12:39.16nevcairieler
12:39.20nevcairielreal damage meters
12:39.30nevcairielsct just displays the event is done with it
12:39.48nevcairiels/is/is and/
12:39.54nevcairielbah
12:39.58nevcairielstupid thing
12:40.15selckin~lart purl
12:40.15purlpulls out his louisville slugger and uses selckin's head to break the homerun record
12:40.58selckinjust tell everyone that disconnects to buy a new computer!
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12:49.47Daemonaselckin that wont help if the internet connection chokes because 5 warlocks with dotimer think its fun to broadcast shit
12:50.01GrumLOL someone is using KTM on that page o.O
12:52.04Daemonamore interesting is the hunter using dotimer in my wintergrasp battle atm ...
12:52.09Grumwhat addon provides that list of who spammed?
12:52.10Daemonahe is the biggest offender so far
12:52.15Daemonaaddonspamfu
12:52.34Grumwhy wouldnt a hunter use that addon?
12:52.47Grumte big question is, why does it send out data *at all* in the first place
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12:54.44Daemonahttp://i41.tinypic.com/i27iwl.jpg
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12:58.46Floohello
12:59.15Floohow would look this if I want to use just "ace addon" ZoneDkpTimer = AceLibrary("AceAddon-3.0"):new("AceEvent-3.0") ?
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13:10.08sb|workDaemona: is there a broker version of that addon?
13:10.28Daemonano but there is a wrapper for fubar addons to broker
13:10.35Daemonai think its fubar2broker
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13:11.33sb|workbut i think that also applies to addons with fubar display :o
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13:28.51Floocan anyone help me?
13:29.28sztanpetno
13:30.04Floohow would look this if I want to use just "ace addon" ZoneDkpTimer = AceLibrary("AceAddon-3.0"):new("AceEvent-3.0") ?
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13:38.36GrumFloo: your question is not even close to complete :)
13:39.04FlooI want use just AceAddon
13:39.12Floohow look first line in lua?
13:40.21sztanpethttp://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/pages/getting-started/
13:41.49Flooany info about libstub?
13:42.33sztanpethttp://www.wowace.com/projects/libstub/
13:43.31Floothx
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13:47.56Antiarchttp://i39.tinypic.com/2r1zrjd.jpg
13:49.15AntiarcWhen I took it out of the mailbox, the instant poison tooltip disappeared
13:49.24AntiarcWhen I mailed it back to my main, it reappeared
13:49.35AntiarcLet's see what happens if I auction it
13:49.42AntiarcWhooooa.
13:49.48AntiarcThe poison is back on the weapon when I'm on my rogue
13:49.56AntiarcSo I'll bet there is some minimum level madness at play
13:50.00AntiarcLet's mail it to my priest!
13:50.07sb|worklol
13:51.07sb|workso priest with fast sp dagger + WP = win? :p
13:51.28sb|workerr okay, no white sp daggers :(
13:53.14sb|workAntiarc: try http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42948 :p
13:53.45sb|workmh okay, too slow :o
13:54.33WhitetoothRussian guild kills Sartharion with all 3 drakes "alive"
13:54.52thulhmm
13:55.23AntiarcYou know, in theory
13:55.29AntiarcThis could be used to trade other soulbound white items
13:55.47AntiarcLike put the LW enchant on a pair of white pants
13:55.55Antiarcbreak and mail to a twink
13:56.42selckinWhitetooth: thats what we tried first night :P
13:56.44Stanzilla(or to give non-DK players weapons with DK enchants)
13:56.56AntiarcThat's an interesting idea.
13:57.02Stanzillawas already done
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14:01.30StanzillaAntiarc: http://wow-exploits.blogspot.com/2009/03/world-of-warcraft-exploit-sell-your.html
14:02.12AntiarcOy.
14:02.14AntiarcThat explains a lot.
14:02.31Antiarc(this experimentation was sparked by a screen of a DK arenaing with wound poison
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14:12.49Industrialckknight: Here's an idea for Pitbull4; a text provider called 'Lua'.
14:12.58ckknightgreat, you write it
14:13.06ckknightI've already said that I'm fine if someone else writes one
14:13.14thulhmm, any network-nerds here? I have a very obscure and weird problem.
14:13.17ckknightif it's good quality, I'll be happy to include it
14:13.19Industrialthat doesnt mean I'm fine having to write one :p
14:13.24selckinthul: plug the cable in the hole
14:13.28ckknightthen don't bother me, Industrial
14:13.31Industrialpf
14:13.38Industrialthe horse, get off it :D
14:14.15thulselckin: ho ho ho :-P
14:14.18ckknightI'll throw a cliché right back: put up or shut up
14:14.19ckknight:P
14:14.32Industrial:>
14:19.02Industrialseriously though, loadstring whatever is in the text field presto :P
14:19.16Industrialdon't have the time to do something like that now :(
14:20.15krkaand use faiap!
14:21.11nevcairielckknight: repos down =(
14:21.30ckknight...yea
14:21.54ckknightIndustrial: oh, and how do you handle figuring out when the text updates? You'd have to specify event handling code as well
14:22.03ckknightIndustrial: not as simple as one would believe.
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14:33.42Daemonaanybody knows which addon refers to itself as Crb in the addon channel?
14:33.50nevcairielcarbonite?
14:33.51krkacarbonite?
14:34.03nevcairieljust a guess, i have no evidence whatsoever
14:34.39Daemonawell thats at least an educated guess, interesting stuff to idle for a few and see that its by large the biggest offender on the guild addon channel ;)
14:34.56ckknightkrka: I somehow think that if you just did it on OnUpdate (even a throttled one), that it wouldn't be very efficient at all ;-)
14:34.57selckinit's pritty crazy on traffic
14:34.59ckknightDaemona: crabs.
14:35.01ckknight(itchy)
14:35.23krkayou could run it just every second or something
14:35.23nevcairielyeah carbonite is damn spammy
14:35.32krkaand the loaded string would be cached of course
14:35.47selckini usualy just /ignore people that use it
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14:37.02Daemonathat addon is basically reporting any mob the person with the addon loaded kills...
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14:39.06nevcairielthe damn addon reports the position of any opposing faction player
14:39.09nevcairielits damn extreme
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14:42.57nevcairielresuscitates Repo, hoping to get it back to life
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14:44.58nevcairiel~mourn Repo
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15:10.26TorhalKaelten: Yo.
15:10.35TorhalBlargh. Bugged Stratholme is bugged.
15:10.59TorhalI'm in Slaughter Square, almost had the abominations all dead, and they reset.
15:11.09TorhalThen they all vanished, and the gate is still closed.
15:11.14TorhalCan't get to Rivendare.
15:11.25nevcairielTHat happend to me too sometimes
15:11.59TorhalSo the only way I can do anything is to hearth, and my stone is set in Dalaran. Blargh.
15:13.11GnarfozKaelten: so, the Dating Section is powered by what was formerly the curse client backend servers? ^^ or why is it not picking up alphas anymore?  ^^
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15:13.46Kaeltenis it happening to any alpha?
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15:14.13Stanzillayes
15:14.31Gnarfozyeah, not getting any updates :X
15:14.37Kaeltenjeez, we've checked the syndication best we can tell it's working.  Having to wait till adamar gets back from vacation.
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15:14.45Kaeltenis it happening to releases or betas or just alpha's
15:14.56nevcairielhard to tell
15:15.01Gnarfoznot sure, would have to know someone tagged something as release :D
15:15.07Kaeltenlol
15:15.30nevcairielbetas too
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15:15.44nevcairielnow to find a release
15:15.45GnarfozNeT went around handing out builds hosted on rapidshare a while back. are those still current?
15:16.26nevcairielKaelten: a release published this morning isnt on the CC either
15:16.30KaeltenGnarfoz: doubt it.
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15:16.41Kaeltennevcairiel: ok it's likely the memory thread crashed
15:16.45Kaeltengoing to see if chip can fix
15:16.48nevcairielIt did go to curse.com though
15:16.53nevcairieljust not CC
15:17.10nevcairielAlphas from two days ago didn't make it, iirc
15:17.27nevcairielAnyway, need to get on the roof do some cleanup
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15:18.24ckknighthey all, if svn or git stop responding, tell me
15:18.44nevcairielthey always do when you're sleeping
15:18.45Gnarfoznevcairiel: roof? cleanup? :D
15:18.45nevcairiel:p
15:18.55ckknightnevcairiel: I changed something major
15:19.05nevcairielGnarfoz: yeah some drain got jammed there
15:19.16GnarfozKaelten: got a link to something more recent by chance? ^^ these seem to be minor enough to not be auto-updated :X
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15:22.56KaeltenGnarfoz: www.curse.com/client
15:23.14GnarfozKaelten: that site has newer stuff than "stable" now? :D
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15:24.00Kaeltenlol
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15:37.29Tinyboomsraidframes has gotten a release lately right? can't see that it's on CC
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15:55.48DanSouthyanyone know of an addon that lets me see what items will dis into (amount of shards/essences/dusts)?
15:56.23durcynDanSouthy: start with Panda
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16:15.27Repo10talented: 03jerry * r500 / (4 files in 2 directories): Mandatory bugfixes to the Frame Lock menu
16:15.39RepoNew announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/donation-links-on-curse-com/
16:19.54Repo10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r102 Util.lua: Check for nil listings when matching pages.
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16:24.59aestilquick grobbulous question
16:25.17aestildo the slime's despawn when Grobbulous dies
16:25.21durcynno.
16:25.38aestiland can you see which melee caused the slime to spawn [if you have more than one spawn]?
16:27.23jjbyou can see what player get a hit from Slime Spray
16:27.26durcynyou can see who takes damage from Slime Spray
16:27.28durcynyeah, that.
16:27.38aestilah.  good call.
16:27.47aestillast night was our first 'full' clear of everything in one night
16:27.50Gnarfozaestil: I smell an addition to libfail!
16:28.04aestildid maly/sarth3D/full naxx in about 3 hours.
16:29.07Repo10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07master * e49d28a / (6 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits]
16:29.11Repoe49d28a: Add keybindings.
16:29.14Repo04168b5: Add WoWEquip's Option Frame along with all the options. Include scroll to last item "hack" for Blizzard's Option Interface.
16:29.17Repoa1fe4e6: Do not try to wear items if the Dressing Room isn't shown. Do not try to wear uncached itemlinks in the Dressing Room as it counts as requesting the link from the server.
16:29.20Repoe558230: Hook any item sent to the Dressing Room to also equip in WoWEquip if the WoWEquip frame is open.
16:30.39aestilIn fact, last night was freaking awesome
16:30.48aestilexcept that KT is still a little bitch and wont' drop staff.
16:30.53aestili'm ALMOST sad to see this content go.
16:31.03AckisWorkmeh
16:31.09aestilsaid almost
16:31.24aestilfor funsies I'd like Sarth3D drake
16:31.29aestiland KT cloak/staff
16:31.43AckisWorkthere's no way in hell I'm getting the plagued drake/etc so meh
16:31.46aestilbut then, on the other hand, never having to do Naxx ever again.
16:31.59aestilis that the 310% drake?
16:32.29AckisWorkthe achievement drakes yes
16:33.09aestilyeah.  those are nice.  but really, if you can do sarth3d and maly 6, the rest of the achievments are just time wasters.  Probably a lot of people COULD get the meta, but don't have the time to do all of them.
16:33.20aestilwe go ours about a month ago.
16:33.31aestilwhich was nice, but it felt more like a relief, rather than a celebration
16:33.37jjbimmortal is the hardest
16:33.55aestilimmortal was the hardest to get, but its a bad achievment IMO.
16:33.57jjbor 10man twilight
16:34.29aestilI think 25 man immortal is harder to get than 10 man 3D, but 10 man 3D is fun, vs immortal, which is not.
16:34.43aestilgetting, and going for immorotal is not fun.  its just bad design.
16:35.22aestilAckisWork: why do you say there's no way to get them?
16:35.24jjbthere will be also a immortal achievement in ulduar, but different
16:35.42aestiljjb: yeah, a good designed achievment.
16:36.30AckisWorkaestil: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Azgalor&n=Ackis
16:36.33jjbyou can make it over more IDs
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16:37.34AckisWorki've been really bummed out about not being able to get my drakes at all =/
16:38.01AckisWorki just didn't really want to raid at all and then they said they're removing them and i'm like.... wtf?
16:38.22aestilyeah.  well at least you should be able to 'go' for the ulduar ones.
16:38.27NeoTronGnarfoz: MDKP Client is localizable
16:38.42AckisWorkaestil: i'm a collector/completionist
16:38.47GnarfozNeoTron: I have the page open. :>
16:38.51AckisWorkaestil: i can't have everything => I'm not happy :(
16:38.52aestilhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Darkspear&n=Fdas
16:39.04GnarfozNeoTron: although weirdly, I didn't get any emails when the ticket changed :(
16:39.22pompyclassblah we killed maly25 in 5:59 and didnt get the stupid achievement, yeah i know th ecombat ended time dael isnt always exact.
16:40.17NeoTronwell the curse ticket system doesn't email you unless you opt in
16:40.26NeoTronand the opt in is per project afaik
16:40.45aestilpompyclass: actually, you have count for the time from when you hit the button to start the encounter
16:40.51aestilyou always lose like 5 seconds there.
16:41.20jjband there is still the bug where you have to wait for the achievement timer
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16:41.36pompyclassyeah i know
16:41.43pompyclasswe pull him when hes right over the orb
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16:44.25pompyclasslol my friend lost his immortal run last night when a pally DI'd someone instead of salving them.
16:44.33Repo10auctionstogo: 03SunTsu 07master * 8f24c2a / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial version
16:45.28AckisWorki lost my immmortal at KT 50% 2 weeks ago
16:45.49aestilWe lost an immortal run at KT 30%.
16:45.51aestilit happens.
16:46.12aestilDedicated Few is another horrible achievment.
16:47.08robotuschaestil, same, only it was Undying
16:47.21robotuschour OT got frostblasted
16:47.28aestiljust have to go back next week and do it again.
16:47.36aestilif it can be done once, it can be done a second time.
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16:51.58pompyclassyeah it sucks my guild got immortal on 2/16 and we can't get it since
16:52.35Repo10auctionstogo: 03SunTsu 07master * 8e31779 .pkgmeta: [+2 commits]
16:52.38Repo8e31779: Hopefully fixed libQTip in .pkgmeta
16:52.41Repo9a2e487: Forgot .pkgmeta
16:52.59NeoTronthe difference with dedicated few and immortal is that a guild can get dedicated for the entire guild in two weeks
16:53.29pompyclasswe ran 2 , 20 man groups in one night, i was surprised
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16:55.50nevcairielNeoTron: you can with immortal too, if you play good =)
16:56.02nevcairielgranted, we only got it for 25 people out of 40 yet
16:56.05nevcairielbut maybe today
16:56.09nevcairielwanders off to riad
16:56.10nevcairiel*raid
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17:00.59NeoTronnevcairiel: well of course
17:01.18NeoTronnevcairiel: but 20 man is guaranteed in one week unless you suck really badly
17:01.30NeoTronwhile the chance of getting immortal even with perfect play isn't 100%
17:02.16NivFreakwe got boned in a really bad way last night
17:02.38NivFreaklast trash pull before mexenna knocked me clear from the ramp into her
17:02.45NivFreakwe'd cleared all the rest of the wings
17:02.46NivFreak=/
17:03.16NivFreakI don't even recall being knocked back by her before
17:03.25NivFreakher trash*
17:04.44NeoTronreally? it always does that and it's annoying as heck
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17:06.33nevcairielwhy do you fight on the ramp? =P
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17:13.03NeoTronNivFreak: tried the new downloader?
17:13.09NeoTron@project mdkp-downloader
17:13.10RepoNeoTron: No project found that matches 'mdkp-downloader'
17:13.17NeoTronrepo is wowace only?
17:13.26NeoTronhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mdkp-dowloader.aspx'
17:13.42NeoTronit's java 1.5 and it seems to launch wow correctly if that feature is enabled
17:13.51ckknightNeoTron: no, wowace and curseforge
17:14.28ckknighthmm...
17:15.26ckknightokay, I have no idea where that is.
17:16.39ckknight@project mdkp-dowloader
17:16.40Repockknight: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/mdkp-dowloader/. MagicDKP Downloader. Game: WoW. dhedbor (Manager/Author). Updated: 11 hours ago
17:16.52ckknightmissing an n
17:17.04ckknightand not anymore
17:18.32nevcairielWhat does WIM use all the addon traffic for?
17:18.51Gnarfoz@project mdkp-downloader
17:18.53RepoGnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/mdkp-downloader/. MagicDKP Downloader. Game: WoW. dhedbor (Manager/Author). Updated: 11 hours ago
17:18.56NeoTronoh I see
17:18.58NeoTronnice typo
17:25.48NivFreakNeoTron: I've been yanked around between the mobs plenty
17:25.53NivFreakNeoTron: never knocked back
17:26.19NivFreaknevcairiel: and we in the past pull the last pack onto the ramp to skip a couple trash pats
17:26.31nevcairielsee what that got you now!
17:26.39NivFreakwell yes, hind sight
17:26.48Fisker-kisses NeoTron
17:26.51NivFreakbut we've been doing it for 4 months, never had a problem
17:26.52Fisker-nom nom nom
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17:40.53aestilwhich one of these is right?
17:40.55aestilhttp://wowwebstats.com/v4oqygeljh66o?s=721301-755779
17:41.04aestilhttp://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/2770619#damageout
17:41.32NeoTrontypically when in doubt, trust WMO
17:41.48NeoTronnever seen a case where WWS was correct and WMO was wrong
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17:42.39aestilseems fair.
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17:44.45PrimerAnyone know if blizz is ever going to fix [flyable] for Dalaran/WG, etc?
17:45.02AckisWorkno
17:45.52NeoTronaestil: specifically, WWS misses pets and in this case the Doomguard that Dahaliana summoned isn't shown
17:45.55PrimerI grow tired of it
17:46.11aestilah.
17:46.21aestilI'm fdas in that.  it was my first night of SV huntering ever.
17:46.25durcynspecificallyl, the combat log is busticated and doesn't have a SPELL_SUMMON event for Ritual of Doom
17:46.42aestili'm not impressed with our other hunters now.  because the spec is almost as easy to play as BM.
17:47.31NeoTrondurcyn: I believe WMO actually makes an educated guess
17:47.49NeoTronlike it sees there are 3 locks and 2 have pets, so the DG must belong to the third one
17:47.53durcynNeoTron: which is iffy on >1 doomguard
17:47.55NeoTronor it has SPELL_CAST
17:48.02NeoTronthere has to be a cast event
17:48.02durcynaye
17:48.02robotuschlol
17:48.08robotuschbai bai Noblegarden
17:48.14NeoTronbascially WMO is smarter in figuring shit out
17:48.29AckisWorkrobotusch: huh?
17:49.15robotuschIt's being pushed back to a later date according to Blizzard
17:49.58AckisWorkah
17:50.58robotuschand bai bai Fuske
17:51.00robotuschFusker
17:51.43AckisWorklooks like you have more time for achievements eh?
17:52.39robotuschyeah, about 2 weeks by the look of it
17:55.54aestil4/14/09 for 3/1 then?
17:55.58aestilor 4/21/09?
17:56.04aestilgame still doesn't feel ready on the PTR
17:56.07aestilbosses for sure aren't.
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18:03.26Primerthat didn't stop WotLK
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18:07.18aestilso recount knows which player to assign a pet to?
18:07.23aestilor is it 'guessing' also?
18:09.09NeoTronit "knows" from what I can see but it hasn't been without problems
18:13.28aestilare there any other damage meter's out there atm that can provide in game WMO type stuff?
18:15.03ulicI've been running Skada lately
18:16.47manyskada seems inexact
18:17.06manyatleast my numbers are in skade usually ~1/5 lower than other peoples recounts
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18:27.08Venara|afkNeoTron: i posted yet another ticket for MDKP :>
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18:32.29PrimerHow expensive is it to :Show()/:Hide() frames when they're already in that state?
18:32.58Primershould I always wrap all my show/hide with a check to make sure it'd be toggled, or is that going too far?
18:33.18Primerit's not happening in the OnUpdate
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19:07.20NeoTronVenara|afk: ok. I appreciate the reports bts
19:07.29Venara|afkokay :>
19:07.29NeoTronbtw. still pretty much a work in process
19:08.11NeoTronI suspect that's an issue with how AceDB handles arrays
19:08.20NeoTronI have to manually handle that "default" I think
19:08.59Venara|afkwell it's a really nice addon tbh. very well written with almost (nothings perfect :P) anything you could possibly need
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19:09.26AckisWorkVenara|afk: don't compliment, just complain
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19:10.01Venara|afkAckisWork: yeah, i'll do that with your stuff, k? :p
19:10.45AckisWorkyou wouldn't be the first
19:10.51Repo10bettermagnet: 03copystring * r20 BetterMagnet.lua: BetterMagnet:
19:10.54Repo- fix for locked items that prevented non-locked items to get looted
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19:12.58Venara|afkAckisWork: oh come on, ARL for example is very good, i love it
19:13.47AckisWorklots to be done
19:13.49ckknightthis HTML work is too hard, I should rewrite wowace in Flash
19:13.51AckisWorklittle time i have
19:14.00ckknightwell, no, I suppose I could do it in Silverlight
19:14.02AckisWork~lart ckknight
19:14.02purlexecutes killall -HUP ckknight
19:14.02ckknight<.<
19:14.03ckknight>.>
19:22.51NeoTronVenara|afk: and I still have a rather long TODO list
19:23.09Venara|afkNeoTron: hehe, work never stops ;)
19:25.59Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r159 Bidder/Bidder.lua: [*] Bidder: Fixed default bid priorities (ticket #10).
19:26.49NeoTronone thing I need to push up is handlign loot better from bosses that don't die..
19:26.56NeoTronor rather, handling it at all
19:28.14PrimerAre there raid bosses that don't die?
19:28.19Primeryet, give loot?
19:29.53weablike majordomo?
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19:39.21NeoTronyes
19:39.59NeoTronKalecgos (but one boss died - just wasn't necessaril an event), Freya. Hodir, Mimiron and Thorim
19:40.20NeoTronMajordomo is easy to handle since you can check for all the adds dying
19:40.44NeoTronnot that I handle that particular case... :P
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19:40.52NeoTronMagicDKP is not used to raid MC
19:41.41AckisWork@project magicdkp
19:41.42RepoAckisWork: No project found that matches 'magicdkp'
19:41.45AckisWork@project magic-dkp
19:41.46RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/magic-dkp/. MagicDKP. Game: WoW. dhedbor (Manager/Author). Updated: 15 minutes ago. Tickets: 4/10
19:42.40AckisWork@ticket magic-dkp 11
19:42.41RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/magic-dkp/tickets/11 - Doesn't work in MC. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Defect. Updated: 8 seconds ago. Status: New. Priority: Critical. Assignee: dhedbor. Votes: 0. Comments: 0
19:42.45AckisWorkNeoTron: do you hate me now?
19:43.19durcyncritical.  classy.
19:43.51AckisWorkaye
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19:45.49AckisWorkat least vote it up durcyn
19:46.35NeoTronAckisWork: damn you AckisWork, damn you
19:46.37GnarfozNeoTron: ticket system ftw, right?
19:46.43durcyni don't even use magicdkp, what are you talking about
19:46.55durcyn~lart AckisWork
19:46.55purlfollow's AckisWork with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION
19:47.15GnarfozNeoTron: also, for the Downloader part... what does the GetDKP ItemID switch do, if it doesn't do what it's labeled as? :D
19:47.35NeoTronchekcing it turns the export of item id's ON rather than OFF as the note might indicate
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19:48.00NeoTronalthough actually I think it'll fail regardless because there's a typo in the code :P
19:48.09NeoTronI need to send them my fixed up version so they can make it not fail
19:48.11NeoTronas much
19:50.24Repo10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07master * 8040094 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
19:50.27Repo8040094: Add initial working Bonus Frame code.
19:50.30Repo130e5ef: Attempt to fix swatch colors and text alignment.
19:51.37AckisWorkxinhuan is not here?
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19:53.28Stanzilla13:48:28 ∙ Xinhuan: i won't be online the next 7 days
19:53.29Stanzilla13:48:30 ∙ Xinhuan: switching ISPs
19:53.37AckisWorko
19:53.39AckisWorki miss him
19:54.33Cheadsthat's a slow isp switch!
19:54.59winkillerouch
19:55.33Gnarfozactually, if it goes down in 7 days and afterwards all is stable again
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19:55.52Gnarfozthen that's ok-ish time
19:55.53Gnarfoz;P
19:55.55AckisWork~botmail for xinhuan: I miss you :(
19:56.31Gnarfozrather than having your new ISP say "well, NO PROBLEM we'll switch you over in no time, you'll not even notice it happened!" which actually means 4 weeks without net access
19:57.02AckisWorki switched to a new ISP with losing access for about an hour
19:57.16Gnarfozyou're in a different country :O
19:57.24AckisWorkcanada
19:57.29AckisWorkfuck it's snowing :(
19:57.32Gnarfozyes. :P
19:57.35Gnarfozhaha
19:57.43Gnarfoz22 degree Celsius tomorrow!
19:57.49Gnarfoz~weather eddv
19:57.52AckisWork3C tomorrow
19:58.03Gnarfozcan it do forecasts? :D
19:58.25AckisWorknein
19:58.28AckisWorkhaha
19:58.32AckisWorki speak german!
19:58.43AckisWork~weather cyed
19:58.46Gnarfozactually, you don't :D
19:59.07SunTsuAckisWork: That's something to be proud of, most germans don't ;)
19:59.12AckisWorkmeh i always get my codes mixed up
19:59.25StanzillaSunTsu: that's mean :(
19:59.37SunTsuStanzilla: And true, still
19:59.48SunTsuunfortunately
20:00.09AckisWorkmost germans speak english?
20:00.29NeoTronI was out of internet for about 30m if that when I switched from Comcrap to Verizon FIOS
20:00.34NeoTronI was rather impressed
20:00.39NeoTronmaybe even less
20:00.45SunTsuAckisWork: Most germans don't speak any language fluently..
20:01.00GnarfozAckisWork: depending on who you ask... i.e. age group/origin
20:01.23AckisWorklol
20:03.26Repo10talented: 03TrAsHeR * r501 Locales/frFR.lua: frFR update
20:03.33GnarfozNeoTron: so that means... the downloader is currently useless because getdkp is broken anyway?
20:04.15NivFreakeh?
20:04.36Gnarfozthat's what I understood :D
20:05.00NeoTronGnarfoz: no
20:05.06NeoTronit doesn't REQUIRE the item id's
20:05.10Gnarfoz(also, with ItemIDs turned off it says "ItemIDs deactive" (lol engrish), with ItemIDs turned on, it says "No ItemIDs")
20:05.24NeoTronyeah
20:05.32NeoTroncan you edit getdkp.php?
20:05.36quiescenso.o
20:05.52Gnarfozno, not currently
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20:06.25NeoTronI believe there's a line "if( !($item_result))" that should be "if(!($item_results)"
20:06.28NeoTronloltypo
20:06.47NeoTronand this is germanrish I believe
20:06.52NeoTrondoesn't quite have the same ring to it :P
20:07.02Gnarfozyeah, I'm aware.
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20:07.19NeoTronthe GetDKP addon is rather comically bad English. I'm not a native speaker, or writer either, but ugh
20:07.22GnarfozI recognize it wherever I go... luckily, "germanrish" doesn't exist
20:07.40Gnarfoz(and Denglisch is the opposite)
20:08.14NeoTronanyhow the item id's allow matching of items in the database to linked items if the locales mismatch
20:08.24NeoTronit compares first item id and then if it fails the name
20:08.41nevcairielTheir whole team is silly people, they can't write english, and they have the worst coding style i've ever seen
20:08.46nevcairieland i've seen Ackis code!
20:09.03Gnarfoznevcairiel: why do you have to be so goddamn concise? :P
20:09.08NeoTronas much as I'd want to, I don't think I could stomach writing my own dkp system
20:09.25NivFreakto replace eqdkp?
20:09.29NeoTronright
20:09.30NivFreakfuck that
20:09.38nevcairielits too much work
20:09.39nevcairielsadly
20:09.40Gnarfozeqdkp itself is probably not that bad...
20:09.43NeoTronit's a piece of crap with a horribly designed schema
20:09.44GnarfozEQDKPlus however...
20:09.47nevcairielits bad too
20:09.51NeoTroneqdkp itself is bad
20:10.04NeoTronthe schema has a table eqdkp_users with both name and a primary integer key
20:10.10Gnarfozwell, then find me another word for EQDKPlus :D
20:10.14NeoTrondespite this they use the fricking user NAME as the key in other tables
20:10.17NeoTron3 others at least
20:10.26NeoTronso changing the name of someone involves many unrelated tables
20:10.30nevcairielthe name? o.O
20:10.35nevcairielman
20:10.50Gnarfozlong story short: they need some working with a clue-by-four
20:10.51Gnarfoz:P
20:11.03NivFreakeqdkp plus is much nicer to use than the old eqdkp
20:11.11nevcairielto use, yes
20:11.16NeoTronnevcairiel: yeah they use a string as a primary key when the name can and do change AND they have a numerical id
20:11.41nevcairielfor some reason all their hackjob code works
20:11.47nevcairielmust be in the nature of php
20:11.49Gnarfoznevcairiel: insane amounts of coffee
20:12.06Gnarfozis the only explanation I can come up with
20:12.07Gnarfoz:D
20:12.18NeoTronusing a string isn't necessarily wrong without question but it sure as hell isn't good. :P
20:12.28durcyneqdkp's codebase made me weep last time i looked at it
20:13.08NeoTrondurcyn: funny thing is, it's much nicer than the ctrt importer and also the eqdkpplus code :P
20:13.53durcynwell, php in general is enough to evoke a tear, so
20:14.31NeoTronhell
20:14.36NeoTronI will write my own software
20:14.45NeoTronjava probably because, as you say, php is horrid :P
20:14.57durcynfor a webapp?
20:15.05durcynwhy not perl or ruby
20:15.09CodayusDo it in grails.
20:15.13NeoTronbecause I don't like perl either and don't know ruby
20:15.28NeoTronand frankly because IntelliJ IDEA is fricking awesome to work with
20:16.05CodayusBut yeah, writing it in SOME web framework would make sense.  And grails is cool.
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20:21.30Codayus(Plus, IntelliJ IDA supports it, I'm told.)
20:23.30NeoTronquite possible
20:24.19NeoTronah grails is groovy
20:24.31NivFreakjava based web apps have nearly all given me negative experiences
20:25.05CrazyBennydoubt thats a problem of java :P
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20:25.10NeoTronindeed
20:25.11Repo- Healing of pets will now merge with owners if set to do so.
20:26.06NeoTronThe barrier of entry is lower with something like php
20:26.12NeoTronbut then you get crap like eqdkp :P
20:27.21CrazyBennyluckily theres no need of JEE to make java based webapps these days, so its really easy, if you know basics of the language
20:29.17NeoTronyep
20:29.24NeoTronI like the concept of, for example, jaxb
20:29.35NeoTronthe importer would essentially be
20:29.57NeoTron1) generate java from xsd (already have the xsd), 2) decode xml, 3) get a java class hiarchy
20:32.27CrazyBennyhmm. never worked with it, but seems very simple
20:32.34NeoTronit is super nice
20:32.50NeoTronwe had to use it on xml w/o a DTD/XSD and without specs
20:33.02NeoTronwhich was a bit iffy. but if you have the XSD it's mostly automatic
20:33.12CrazyBennyyeh, I bet
20:33.41NeoTronand ofc you can almost as automatically put things into the database too
20:37.23CrazyBennyinteresting...I see green squares instead of earthshield, but all other effects are fine :o
20:39.23AckisWorkpompy1: hi
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