00:04.42 | NeoTron | Primer: btw I think you have data in the MagicDKP zone database with invalid names. I need to add a "backfill" that fixes that |
00:06.33 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: probably from before my commit that changed DefaultData |
00:06.44 | NeoTron | exactly |
00:06.55 | NeoTron | I saw the commit but if the data is already in, it's bad |
00:07.04 | NeoTron | and I never saw it because I had the "correct" data |
00:07.30 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: from earlier: |
00:07.30 | Gnarfoz | <Gnarfoz> NeoTron: is there support for standbys being in the raid group in MagicDKP yet? |
00:07.33 | Gnarfoz | <Gnarfoz> NeoTron: meaning, do standbys have to be outside of the raid, currently? |
00:07.37 | Gnarfoz | <Gnarfoz> NeoTron: ooooor... can you manually specify who is on standby and who isn't? ^^ |
00:07.37 | NeoTron | really the core issue was that the default data doesn't use the exact format as the data stored in the saved var |
00:07.56 | NeoTron | standby can 1) be in raid, 2) be in guild and have magicdkp client |
00:08.06 | NeoTron | I will add 3) sit in a special channel and have magicdkp client |
00:08.15 | Gnarfoz | hm |
00:08.30 | Gnarfoz | I was trying out the client today, so I couldn't check the UI of magicdkp proper |
00:08.31 | NeoTron | if there is sufficient demand I might add some sort of whisper handler |
00:08.59 | Ackis | i just realized i haven't paid for wow since before january |
00:09.04 | Axodious | hmm |
00:09.07 | Gnarfoz | but the other guy (who was playing the leader part) couldn't find anything that would have let him say who in the raid is actually standby |
00:09.29 | Axodious | im looking for an addon where similair to power auras for a cooldown counter |
00:09.37 | Axodious | specificly |
00:09.46 | Axodious | im trying to put an icon for conflag beside my dot timer |
00:09.54 | Axodious | so i know when its up |
00:10.05 | Pneumatus | TellMeWhen should be able to cope with that |
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00:10.35 | Axodious | right now with power auras i can only get it to show once it's ready :( |
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00:12.41 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: pokies? :> |
00:13.02 | NeoTron | it's taken on each event |
00:13.09 | NeoTron | there's no "ongoing standby list" |
00:13.17 | Gnarfoz | hm |
00:13.33 | Gnarfoz | *confused* |
00:13.33 | NeoTron | you don't sign up to standby, you answer a standby call within (currently) 5 minutes of an event |
00:13.39 | NeoTron | so you kill a boss |
00:13.56 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it automatically said "taking attendance for event xyz" in guild chat for that |
00:13.58 | NeoTron | the addon sends a whisper message to everyone in the guild that has a raider rank (uou choose) and that player gets a popup |
00:14.08 | Gnarfoz | didn't get a popup |
00:14.11 | NeoTron | c;ick "I'm here" and you're added to the event |
00:14.22 | NeoTron | were the raid ranks configured? |
00:14.26 | Gnarfoz | yes |
00:14.31 | Gnarfoz | (all ranks selected, actually) |
00:14.35 | Gnarfoz | and I shouldn't have, because I was there, killing the boss |
00:14.39 | Axodious | i cheated Pneumatus ;x stuck a bartender bar with 1 icon and clickthrough on there lol |
00:14.45 | NeoTron | well then you don't get a popup |
00:14.46 | Axodious | rather than download an entire addon for 1 thing |
00:14.50 | NeoTron | if you're in the raid you don't see it |
00:14.54 | Gnarfoz | well |
00:14.56 | Gnarfoz | that's my question |
00:15.02 | Gnarfoz | how would it work with standbys in the raid? :D |
00:15.14 | Gnarfoz | does it do a zone compare or how would it tell them apart ^^ |
00:17.18 | NeoTron | if you're in group 6+ it adds you as standby |
00:17.42 | NeoTron | it should check whether you're in a 10 man or 25 man |
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00:23.08 | Kemayo | Am I misremebering, but didn't AceDB-3.0 used to have a callback for when a value in the db table was changed? |
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00:26.36 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: ah... ok, group6+ |
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01:14.00 | Repo | Tagging as 1.0. No bugs found or at least reported on 1.0beta1, so this should be a good release. |
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01:22.29 | Repo | 10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * 3d4a707 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
01:22.32 | Repo | 3d4a707: Finish config adding |
01:22.35 | Repo | 3ee3a54: Merge branch 'master' into config |
01:22.38 | Repo | bbc4ad1: Work on config system |
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01:31.00 | RaydenUni | the loot rules for running raids with our allied guild changed, and no one told us |
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01:33.39 | bubblecannon | hey guys.. quick question: If I wanted a simple X line history scrolling window console type behaviour what would you recommend? AceGUI ScrollFrame / MultiLineEditBox? Or roll my own? |
01:33.53 | bubblecannon | (ie. a glorified log window) |
01:37.38 | pompy | if you start an immortal run and you engage the first boss and somenoe dies but you manage to reset him and everyone goes out and makes a new raid, they can still try immortal again? |
01:38.25 | Megalon | pompy: yes |
01:38.34 | Megalon | you just need get outside and reset |
01:51.26 | RaydenUni | rofl |
01:51.32 | RaydenUni | Bulge-Concealing Breastplate just dropped |
01:51.52 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37770 |
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01:53.40 | pompy | is there some graphic between the p2->p3 switch in malygos, that could like cause a seizure? |
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02:08.34 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r33 ChargeMeter.lua: fix slash command function |
02:09.27 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r34 ChargeMeter.lua: fix extra charge count |
02:21.25 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r35 ChargeMeter.lua: |
02:21.28 | Repo | tweak slash command again, coding during Heigan as melee is fun |
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02:47.25 | bubblecannon | lol, the guild api is fail. GuildRosterSetOfficerNote(index) where index is the currently logged on index? lolwut |
02:47.40 | bubblecannon | wru uid's imho |
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02:54.45 | RaydenUni | how many tanks do you need to juggle a boss indefinitely? |
02:55.12 | RaydenUni | 4? |
02:55.55 | bubblecannon | taunt juggle? |
02:56.37 | bubblecannon | if its taunt juggle, then depends on taunt resists and distance tanks are apart. |
02:56.43 | bubblecannon | and speed of mob |
02:57.06 | bubblecannon | but general rule: 2 for a slow mob, 4 for a fast mob |
02:57.38 | bubblecannon | if you have people dps'ing at the same time, then you need the taunt effect constantly, so would be 4 |
03:00.16 | RaydenUni | trying to figure out if we need understudies for razuvious :D |
03:00.23 | RaydenUni | or, how long we can survive after they all die |
03:02.27 | ckknight | is DrDamage still the hip, cool addon to use or is there something better? |
03:04.22 | RaydenUni | it's what i use... |
03:04.31 | RaydenUni | i need an addon that tells me how often i dodged during a fight |
03:04.39 | RaydenUni | i don't think recount does that |
03:05.21 | RaydenUni | also |
03:05.24 | RaydenUni | razuvious sucks |
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03:23.54 | bubblecannon | can anyone recommend a replacement to LibGuild-1.0? If not, I'll look at improving it to provide 'setter' functions |
03:28.06 | Kemayo | bubblecannon: I think it's still the only thing out there for what it does. |
03:29.24 | bubblecannon | kk, I'll submit a patch for setter operations. The raw WoWAPI is a pig to do guild/officer notes. |
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03:37.18 | Arrowmaster | its not ment to do setting |
03:37.23 | Arrowmaster | just providing info |
03:39.10 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r151 Downloader/src/info/robit/dkpfetch (2 files in 1 directory): |
03:39.13 | Repo | Downloader: Use object form GUI control instead of embedded java. |
03:39.35 | NeoTron | ah Idea does source control just fine if it's integrated. Good to know |
03:39.48 | bubblecannon | arrow: why wouldn't you want a library to provide guild set functions? |
03:40.22 | Arrowmaster | because its far too complex since you need to check if you have premission first |
03:40.54 | Arrowmaster | and the addon should be doing that itself and not just blindly callin a library function |
03:41.42 | Arrowmaster | and the library should check too incase of dumbasses but then your checking twice so it makes little sense |
03:42.16 | bubblecannon | hmm.. I can't see why the library can't provide the answer for you in a return |
03:42.16 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r152 Downloader/src/info/robit/dkpfetch (4 files in 1 directory): [Downloader] Renamed main class MagicDKPDownloader |
03:42.37 | bubblecannon | so you devolve that responsiblity to the library to resolve. That avoids doubling up. |
03:42.50 | Arrowmaster | and its a single function to set the note |
03:42.54 | Arrowmaster | whats so hard about that |
03:43.05 | Arrowmaster | thats exactly why it shouldnt be in a library |
03:43.18 | bubblecannon | it's not really a single function |
03:43.31 | bubblecannon | if you have player 'X' you need to iterate throughout the entire guild |
03:43.37 | bubblecannon | doing an index check |
03:43.42 | bubblecannon | to find the roster index |
03:43.45 | bubblecannon | to set the officer note |
03:44.06 | bubblecannon | because libguild doesn't provide indexes as far as i can see |
03:44.15 | bubblecannon | (sorry for the spam, used to gchat) |
03:44.17 | Arrowmaster | because it doesnt store them afaik |
03:44.25 | bubblecannon | yep, thats what im patching |
03:44.32 | Arrowmaster | which means it would bloat the lib to add that |
03:44.36 | Arrowmaster | so it wont be added |
03:45.08 | bubblecannon | ok, maybe im missing something then |
03:45.20 | bubblecannon | so whats the recommended way of setting an officer note for a player |
03:45.28 | bubblecannon | if you're using libguild |
03:45.48 | Arrowmaster | the same way everybody else does it |
03:47.32 | bubblecannon | for i=1, GetNumGuildMembers(true) do if(GetGuildRosterInfo(i)==guildName) then GuildRosterSetOfficeNote(i, officerNote) end |
03:48.00 | bubblecannon | that seems an awfully expensive operation to do in every single addon that adjusts guild officer notes |
03:48.16 | Arrowmaster | how fucking often are you setting notes? |
03:49.25 | bubblecannon | I find it hard to believe I'm being offensive here arrow. Couldn't you just as simply argue whats the cost of a single lookup table in bytes added to a library that already stores 12 seperate lookup tables? |
03:49.30 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r153 Downloader (3 files in 2 directories): [Downloader] Fixed NPE due to change in UI form creation. |
03:49.33 | Repo | [Downloader] Added file revision to the version number. |
03:49.51 | bubblecannon | all keyed by a string noless |
03:50.24 | Arrowmaster | adding features for a single dev is what turned ace2 into the pile of crap it is |
03:51.03 | bubblecannon | from looking through the codebase, I suspect the lack of documentation is the biggest culprit. Finding out the 'best practice' for doing something is extraordinarily difficult. |
03:51.40 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r98 Locale/frFR.lua: Updates to frFR. |
03:51.49 | bubblecannon | the wowapi is probably the best example of the 'candy machine' interface i've ever seen. |
03:52.01 | Arrowmaster | its not supported at all |
03:52.01 | WobWork | we get candy? |
03:52.07 | WobWork | Why was I not notified? |
03:52.11 | bubblecannon | lol |
03:52.12 | bubblecannon | win |
03:52.17 | Arrowmaster | dont like it go elsewhere |
03:53.26 | bubblecannon | arrow, I'm amazed you're being so hard nosed here. I don't think I've suggested I'm planning on going anywhere else. Nor am I suggesting something should be rewritten. |
03:53.43 | bubblecannon | if the answer is no, then fine I'll just keep it inside my code |
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03:55.00 | WobWork | although one thing you should note |
03:55.13 | WobWork | by going through the iteration |
03:55.23 | WobWork | you can be certain that the index you're referring to is the target you're after |
03:55.36 | bubblecannon | only if its an atomic op |
03:55.39 | WobWork | which may not be accurate in a lookup table if something happens |
03:55.56 | bubblecannon | if the event code can trigger silently between function calls |
03:56.03 | WobWork | alright, it's -more likely- to be accurate than a lookup table |
03:56.08 | bubblecannon | :) |
03:57.12 | WobWork | and with libraries, we're trying to minimise what they do to the bare minimum of shared usage |
03:57.12 | bubblecannon | currently, I've added in a sanity check that forces an iteration if the name/index mapping doesn't match what GetGuildRosterInfo() returns. |
03:57.50 | WobWork | Rather than doing the iteration in order to update the index every time someone logs in or out |
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03:57.54 | WobWork | You do the iteration only when you need to |
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03:58.27 | WobWork | if you're updating the guildnote for a player every second, you might want to explore other methods of data storage =) |
03:59.33 | bubblecannon | wob: for sure. I'm doing a guild onote update for each member of the raid (so 10 or 25 updates) once every boss kill (say 5 apart at minimum) |
03:59.48 | WobWork | that's fine |
03:59.57 | WobWork | but what if people log in and out during the raid |
04:00.03 | WobWork | of people who -aren't- in the raid |
04:00.15 | WobWork | you'll be forcing unnecessary updates to your lookup table |
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04:00.39 | bubblecannon | I currently just iterate through GetRaidRosterInfo() |
04:00.56 | WobWork | ^^ |
04:01.16 | WobWork | so why a lookup table at all? =) |
04:01.48 | bubblecannon | because raidrosterinfo() gives me player names i need a roster index key for setofficernote() unless i'm missing something here |
04:02.31 | bubblecannon | so the options becomes either iterate in O(M*N) or do it a smarter way |
04:02.37 | WobWork | I'm just suggesting you're better off doing the iteration to update the info as required |
04:02.49 | WobWork | because any lookup table will be affected by external events |
04:03.03 | WobWork | and will need to either be updated unnecessarily, or at every change |
04:03.12 | WobWork | which defeats the purpose of the lookup table |
04:03.24 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r154 Downloader/src/info/robit/dkpfetch (4 files in 1 directory): [*]Downloader: Add file properties. |
04:03.27 | Repo | [*]Downloader: Don't run the reg command on non-windows platforms and used a String[] to separate the command line arguments. |
04:03.46 | Primer | NeoTron: I just reported the curse client bug for MagicDKP |
04:05.23 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r155 Downloader/src/info/robit/dkpfetch/MagicDKPDownloader.java: [*]Add svn:keyword: Revision. |
04:09.12 | Arrowmaster | the client has all the guild info, doing an iteration over it is fairly fast |
04:09.44 | Arrowmaster | you should only be iterating it once then |
04:09.48 | Arrowmaster | set all the notes during the same loop |
04:09.50 | Arrowmaster | you iterate twice |
04:09.52 | Arrowmaster | thats it |
04:09.54 | Arrowmaster | once to get your names from raidrosterinfo |
04:10.00 | Arrowmaster | and once over guildroster |
04:10.04 | Arrowmaster | make a table off all the notes you are going to set indexed by player name |
04:10.08 | Arrowmaster | and set them all in one loop |
04:10.31 | bubblecannon | yep thats the solution I was considering - it becomes an O(1) parse then |
04:10.48 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r99 / (3 files in 1 directory): Widen search button. |
04:10.51 | Repo | Bump version number to 1.1. |
04:11.36 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg 04v1.1 * r100 : (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
04:11.39 | Repo | Tagging as v1.1 |
04:11.42 | Repo | Major new features: |
04:11.45 | Repo | - Sortable columns |
04:11.48 | Repo | - Localization |
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04:15.01 | NeoTron | Primer: speaking of that, I can repeat it. |
04:15.11 | Primer | cool |
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04:22.25 | RaydenUni | hood of exodus finally dropped |
04:22.27 | RaydenUni | a rogue got it |
04:22.29 | RaydenUni | :( |
04:30.23 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r156 Downloader (14 files in 5 directories): [*]Downloader: Renamed and reorganized source. |
04:33.41 | RaydenUni | i am so tired of never winning any tier gear |
04:38.04 | Repo | 10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * 03b35fe button.lua: [+1 commit] Make button work again |
04:54.16 | WobWork | <3 Kemayo |
04:58.20 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r377 / (3 files in 2 directories): Work on guild sychronization |
04:58.22 | Repo | Updated external libraries |
05:07.17 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1932 / (2 files in 2 directories): Updated all professions up to Patch 3.0.9 |
05:14.18 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r101 / (4 files in 2 directories): Fix printf escape sequences. |
05:15.18 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r157 Downloader (9 files in 4 directories): [*]Downloader: Added README and LICENSE files. |
05:15.21 | Repo | [*]Downloader: Removed use of IDEA specific GUI elements (shrinking the output size significantly). |
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05:58.35 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1933 / (2 files in 2 directories): Cleaned up some typos. |
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06:05.47 | Kemayo | WobWork: It's so easy to forget a file... |
06:12.02 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r44 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
06:12.05 | Repo | Added spell-specific option to hide stack count (ticket #11). |
06:12.08 | Repo | Druids: only show self auras by default and enable others' auras for certain group-wide spells. This may become the default for all classes. |
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06:15.55 | Kemayo | It's great that AceConfig-Dialog text inputs work with having items dragged into them. Makes my life so much easier. :D |
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06:20.33 | Repo | 10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r47 MagicRunes.toc: |
06:20.36 | Repo | [*]Repackage to pick up new localizated strings and new libs. |
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06:25.16 | sb|work | morning |
06:27.10 | Repo | 10magic-marker: 03dhedbor * r147 MagicMarker.toc: Repackage with new libs. |
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06:30.39 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r378 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
06:30.42 | Repo | Debugged Vana's guild synchronization with a guildie. We were able to see each |
06:30.45 | Repo | other's lists. |
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06:32.49 | Repo | 10fu-bar_magic-marker: 03dhedbor * r47 / (2 files in 1 directory): Bump embedded libs. |
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07:04.45 | Repo | 10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r52 / (17 files in 2 directories): |
07:04.48 | Repo | [*]Added Localization support using the WowAce locale system. |
07:07.41 | Repo | 10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r53 MagicDKP_Client.toc: Repackage with localization strings (oops). |
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07:17.18 | Repo | - Dodge Rating: Low-level players will now convert Dodge Rating at the same rate as level 34 players. |
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09:01.52 | NivFreak | finally a fucking last laugh |
09:02.12 | Fisker- | tackles NivFreak and steals it |
09:02.16 | robotusch | :O |
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09:14.03 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r158 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
09:14.06 | Repo | [*]Make sure not to listen to CHAT_MSG_LOOT when the feature is disabled. |
09:14.09 | Repo | [*]Bidder: Don't ask for DKP or record loot unless the item was actually given out (or the loot window closed). |
09:15.12 | Repo | 10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r21 Modules/LootMenu/LootMenu.lua: |
09:15.15 | Repo | [*] LootMenu: Don't report looted items unless they are actually looted (or when the loot window is closed). |
09:18.18 | orionshock | eek i have come to a need to talk to tekkub... |
09:18.29 | orionshock | >.> |
09:18.42 | orionshock | naturally he's not around |
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09:25.36 | Repo | 10lern2count: 03jerry 04v1.3-beta * r127 : Tagging as v1.3-beta |
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09:51.30 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r498 / (5 files in 2 directories): Save all frame position using a unique API |
09:53.06 | Torhal | @describe lern2count |
09:53.08 | Repo | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/projects/lern2count/. lern2count. lern2count adds ABinfo castcounts to spell and actions. It has a builtin reagentcount too. |
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10:43.42 | harl | hi |
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11:22.12 | nevcairiel | ckknight: Kaelten: ping, repos are down again |
11:34.13 | Fisker- | hits the ping and sends it right back as a pong |
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11:47.55 | Daemona | uhm whats the name of the addon again that will list addon channel traffic? |
11:49.00 | selckin | fubar addonspamfu is the only i know |
11:49.37 | SunTsu | Daemona: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-channelwatch/ |
11:50.31 | SunTsu | Daemona: Ah, sorry, confused it, meant http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-cma/ |
11:50.40 | Daemona | SunTsu addonspam fu looks more like it, i dont want to monitor people in the channel but a breakdown on what addons spam the most |
11:51.06 | Daemona | yeah thats more like it :) |
11:51.12 | SunTsu | Daemona: I know, I just confused both addons |
11:51.27 | selckin | SunTsu: that doesn't group by prefixes does it? |
11:51.59 | selckin | or person who generates the traffic |
11:52.02 | selckin | its a bit useless |
11:52.09 | SunTsu | selckin: I don't know, I don't use it, just had in mind it existed because auf my queries for "broker" ;) |
11:52.41 | Daemona | yeah basically i want to track down DoTimer users and nuke them from orbit with screenshots of their spam during raids |
11:52.54 | Daemona | because its a known issue on AoE spam raid encounters |
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11:53.07 | Daemona | addon spam disconnecting people and stuff |
11:53.13 | selckin | yeah that one is pritty bad |
11:53.36 | Daemona | and people just seem to not admit that they use DoTimer so you have to put it in their face |
11:53.47 | selckin | it's option they can turn off |
11:54.01 | Daemona | the point is, even if you disable it, DoTimer doesnt stop ;) |
11:54.06 | selckin | it does |
11:54.12 | Daemona | so it got fixed? |
11:54.30 | selckin | dunno, i've been telling people to turn announce off since mid tbc, and traffic stops when they do |
11:54.32 | Daemona | i recall a version that lasted for very long that if you even disabled to syncing it kept spamming the addon chanel |
11:54.56 | selckin | you'll get less resistance then telling them not tuse the addon |
11:55.17 | Daemona | well there are good replacements, like event horizon, needtoknow etc |
11:55.28 | selckin | doesn't mather |
11:55.58 | Daemona | well i always can re-route the pressure via the officer chat ;) |
11:56.35 | Daemona | cma only gives a breakdown, so i gues i stick with addonspamfu |
11:57.09 | syeren | Shadowed, what will your dispel announcer be named? |
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12:11.20 | sb|work | Daemona: is DoTimer sync that bad? |
12:11.43 | Daemona | it's telling the raid how long your dots will last |
12:11.45 | selckin | it's a ton of traffic nobody cares about |
12:11.46 | Daemona | who would ever need to know that? |
12:12.08 | selckin | put carbonite to shame in traffic generation |
12:12.20 | Daemona | http://elitistjerks.com/blogs/cadfael/302-fixing_chain_disconnecting.html |
12:12.51 | Daemona | check the pic in the spammy addons section |
12:14.23 | Daemona | and on a side note, what is GoGoMount and why does it send messages in the guild addon channel? |
12:14.52 | selckin | keylogger! |
12:15.13 | selckin | soemtimes it's version checks |
12:15.45 | Daemona | 34 times in 13 minutes? (from ONE user) |
12:17.08 | selckin | "GoGoMount will send a line of text on your screen when someone in the same group, raid, battleground or guild has a newer version of GoGoMount" |
12:17.09 | selckin | i win |
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12:18.04 | Daemona | rather "everytime you mount it sends its version to the addon channel for .... to notify people with older versions." |
12:18.07 | SunTsu | Daemona: GoGoMount is a mount chooser |
12:18.17 | selckin | unless it's doing 20-40 messages per second i consider it well behaved |
12:18.28 | selckin | and that sounds extreme, but its not |
12:18.46 | selckin | way to many of those out there |
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12:19.32 | Daemona | HealComm -> instant health update lib? |
12:19.48 | Daemona | I guess i will have lotsa fun tonight profiling the addon channel spam ... |
12:20.17 | selckin | healcomm is usefull traffic. |
12:20.18 | Daemona | we occasionally have people disconnect on thaddius, sartharion with drakes up big aoe pulls in naxx and stuff |
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12:20.27 | nevcairiel | HealComm sends a message whenever someone casts a heal |
12:20.29 | selckin | and not very spammy |
12:20.45 | nevcairiel | so at a maximum one message every second |
12:20.46 | nevcairiel | per user |
12:20.54 | Daemona | though my favourite in the blog post i linked is definitly the Commanding Shout Imp aura toggle :D |
12:20.58 | Daemona | impressive spam |
12:21.12 | selckin | that been reported to blizzard? |
12:22.00 | Daemona | no idea, i dont have an us account, so i cant and honestly i have far too little background knowledge to argue why its bad, but i understand as much as "spam = bad" ;) |
12:22.09 | selckin | carbonite/dottimer/healbot are the bad ones |
12:22.18 | selckin | that most ppl use |
12:22.33 | Daemona | damage meters that are syncing are bad too |
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12:22.58 | selckin | most ppl use recount these days, and its quite well behaved |
12:23.07 | selckin | at least in my world/realm |
12:23.30 | nevcairiel | But its a good idea to check those again, i kinda let it slip since bc =P |
12:23.40 | nevcairiel | Now if the silly svn was up.. |
12:23.52 | nevcairiel | ~lart Kaelten |
12:23.52 | purl | rm -rf's Kaelten |
12:23.54 | nevcairiel | wake up! |
12:24.10 | selckin | if you are the one getting disconnected, disbaling those might be good ofc |
12:24.20 | selckin | but the addon messages i would consider acceptable |
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12:24.54 | selckin | doesn't have be the channel messages that disconnect you, just running 5 damag emeters all parsing the combatlog is bad too |
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12:31.40 | selckin | bit of a shame you can't unsub from those messages tho |
12:37.18 | phyber | 5 damage meters. you MUST be top dps on one of them! |
12:38.24 | selckin | omen/sct/recount |
12:38.27 | selckin | look that's 3 |
12:38.32 | selckin | parsing combatlog |
12:38.36 | nevcairiel | omen doesnt use combatlog |
12:38.40 | selckin | used to :( |
12:39.13 | nevcairiel | there is still a difference for real combatlogs though, they store the data and calculate stuff with it |
12:39.16 | nevcairiel | er |
12:39.20 | nevcairiel | real damage meters |
12:39.30 | nevcairiel | sct just displays the event is done with it |
12:39.48 | nevcairiel | s/is/is and/ |
12:39.54 | nevcairiel | bah |
12:39.58 | nevcairiel | stupid thing |
12:40.15 | selckin | ~lart purl |
12:40.15 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses selckin's head to break the homerun record |
12:40.58 | selckin | just tell everyone that disconnects to buy a new computer! |
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12:49.47 | Daemona | selckin that wont help if the internet connection chokes because 5 warlocks with dotimer think its fun to broadcast shit |
12:50.01 | Grum | LOL someone is using KTM on that page o.O |
12:52.04 | Daemona | more interesting is the hunter using dotimer in my wintergrasp battle atm ... |
12:52.09 | Grum | what addon provides that list of who spammed? |
12:52.10 | Daemona | he is the biggest offender so far |
12:52.15 | Daemona | addonspamfu |
12:52.34 | Grum | why wouldnt a hunter use that addon? |
12:52.47 | Grum | te big question is, why does it send out data *at all* in the first place |
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12:54.44 | Daemona | http://i41.tinypic.com/i27iwl.jpg |
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12:58.46 | Floo | hello |
12:59.15 | Floo | how would look this if I want to use just "ace addon" ZoneDkpTimer = AceLibrary("AceAddon-3.0"):new("AceEvent-3.0") ? |
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13:10.08 | sb|work | Daemona: is there a broker version of that addon? |
13:10.28 | Daemona | no but there is a wrapper for fubar addons to broker |
13:10.35 | Daemona | i think its fubar2broker |
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13:11.33 | sb|work | but i think that also applies to addons with fubar display :o |
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13:28.51 | Floo | can anyone help me? |
13:29.28 | sztanpet | no |
13:30.04 | Floo | how would look this if I want to use just "ace addon" ZoneDkpTimer = AceLibrary("AceAddon-3.0"):new("AceEvent-3.0") ? |
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13:38.36 | Grum | Floo: your question is not even close to complete :) |
13:39.04 | Floo | I want use just AceAddon |
13:39.12 | Floo | how look first line in lua? |
13:40.21 | sztanpet | http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/pages/getting-started/ |
13:41.49 | Floo | any info about libstub? |
13:42.33 | sztanpet | http://www.wowace.com/projects/libstub/ |
13:43.31 | Floo | thx |
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13:47.56 | Antiarc | http://i39.tinypic.com/2r1zrjd.jpg |
13:49.15 | Antiarc | When I took it out of the mailbox, the instant poison tooltip disappeared |
13:49.24 | Antiarc | When I mailed it back to my main, it reappeared |
13:49.35 | Antiarc | Let's see what happens if I auction it |
13:49.42 | Antiarc | Whooooa. |
13:49.48 | Antiarc | The poison is back on the weapon when I'm on my rogue |
13:49.56 | Antiarc | So I'll bet there is some minimum level madness at play |
13:50.00 | Antiarc | Let's mail it to my priest! |
13:50.07 | sb|work | lol |
13:51.07 | sb|work | so priest with fast sp dagger + WP = win? :p |
13:51.28 | sb|work | err okay, no white sp daggers :( |
13:53.14 | sb|work | Antiarc: try http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42948 :p |
13:53.45 | sb|work | mh okay, too slow :o |
13:54.33 | Whitetooth | Russian guild kills Sartharion with all 3 drakes "alive" |
13:54.52 | thul | hmm |
13:55.23 | Antiarc | You know, in theory |
13:55.29 | Antiarc | This could be used to trade other soulbound white items |
13:55.47 | Antiarc | Like put the LW enchant on a pair of white pants |
13:55.55 | Antiarc | break and mail to a twink |
13:56.42 | selckin | Whitetooth: thats what we tried first night :P |
13:56.44 | Stanzilla | (or to give non-DK players weapons with DK enchants) |
13:56.56 | Antiarc | That's an interesting idea. |
13:57.02 | Stanzilla | was already done |
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14:01.30 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: http://wow-exploits.blogspot.com/2009/03/world-of-warcraft-exploit-sell-your.html |
14:02.12 | Antiarc | Oy. |
14:02.14 | Antiarc | That explains a lot. |
14:02.31 | Antiarc | (this experimentation was sparked by a screen of a DK arenaing with wound poison |
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14:12.49 | Industrial | ckknight: Here's an idea for Pitbull4; a text provider called 'Lua'. |
14:12.58 | ckknight | great, you write it |
14:13.06 | ckknight | I've already said that I'm fine if someone else writes one |
14:13.14 | thul | hmm, any network-nerds here? I have a very obscure and weird problem. |
14:13.17 | ckknight | if it's good quality, I'll be happy to include it |
14:13.19 | Industrial | that doesnt mean I'm fine having to write one :p |
14:13.24 | selckin | thul: plug the cable in the hole |
14:13.28 | ckknight | then don't bother me, Industrial |
14:13.31 | Industrial | pf |
14:13.38 | Industrial | the horse, get off it :D |
14:14.15 | thul | selckin: ho ho ho :-P |
14:14.18 | ckknight | I'll throw a cliché right back: put up or shut up |
14:14.19 | ckknight | :P |
14:14.32 | Industrial | :> |
14:19.02 | Industrial | seriously though, loadstring whatever is in the text field presto :P |
14:19.16 | Industrial | don't have the time to do something like that now :( |
14:20.15 | krka | and use faiap! |
14:21.11 | nevcairiel | ckknight: repos down =( |
14:21.30 | ckknight | ...yea |
14:21.54 | ckknight | Industrial: oh, and how do you handle figuring out when the text updates? You'd have to specify event handling code as well |
14:22.03 | ckknight | Industrial: not as simple as one would believe. |
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14:24.11 | krka | OnUpdate! |
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14:33.42 | Daemona | anybody knows which addon refers to itself as Crb in the addon channel? |
14:33.50 | nevcairiel | carbonite? |
14:33.51 | krka | carbonite? |
14:34.03 | nevcairiel | just a guess, i have no evidence whatsoever |
14:34.39 | Daemona | well thats at least an educated guess, interesting stuff to idle for a few and see that its by large the biggest offender on the guild addon channel ;) |
14:34.56 | ckknight | krka: I somehow think that if you just did it on OnUpdate (even a throttled one), that it wouldn't be very efficient at all ;-) |
14:34.57 | selckin | it's pritty crazy on traffic |
14:34.59 | ckknight | Daemona: crabs. |
14:35.01 | ckknight | (itchy) |
14:35.23 | krka | you could run it just every second or something |
14:35.23 | nevcairiel | yeah carbonite is damn spammy |
14:35.32 | krka | and the loaded string would be cached of course |
14:35.47 | selckin | i usualy just /ignore people that use it |
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14:37.02 | Daemona | that addon is basically reporting any mob the person with the addon loaded kills... |
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14:39.06 | nevcairiel | the damn addon reports the position of any opposing faction player |
14:39.09 | nevcairiel | its damn extreme |
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14:42.57 | nevcairiel | resuscitates Repo, hoping to get it back to life |
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14:44.58 | nevcairiel | ~mourn Repo |
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15:08.38 | Kaelten | g'morning |
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15:10.26 | Torhal | Kaelten: Yo. |
15:10.35 | Torhal | Blargh. Bugged Stratholme is bugged. |
15:10.59 | Torhal | I'm in Slaughter Square, almost had the abominations all dead, and they reset. |
15:11.09 | Torhal | Then they all vanished, and the gate is still closed. |
15:11.14 | Torhal | Can't get to Rivendare. |
15:11.25 | nevcairiel | THat happend to me too sometimes |
15:11.59 | Torhal | So the only way I can do anything is to hearth, and my stone is set in Dalaran. Blargh. |
15:13.11 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: so, the Dating Section is powered by what was formerly the curse client backend servers? ^^ or why is it not picking up alphas anymore? ^^ |
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15:13.46 | Kaelten | is it happening to any alpha? |
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15:14.13 | Stanzilla | yes |
15:14.31 | Gnarfoz | yeah, not getting any updates :X |
15:14.37 | Kaelten | jeez, we've checked the syndication best we can tell it's working. Having to wait till adamar gets back from vacation. |
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15:14.45 | Kaelten | is it happening to releases or betas or just alpha's |
15:14.56 | nevcairiel | hard to tell |
15:15.01 | Gnarfoz | not sure, would have to know someone tagged something as release :D |
15:15.07 | Kaelten | lol |
15:15.30 | nevcairiel | betas too |
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15:15.44 | nevcairiel | now to find a release |
15:15.45 | Gnarfoz | NeT went around handing out builds hosted on rapidshare a while back. are those still current? |
15:16.26 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: a release published this morning isnt on the CC either |
15:16.30 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: doubt it. |
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15:16.41 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: ok it's likely the memory thread crashed |
15:16.45 | Kaelten | going to see if chip can fix |
15:16.48 | nevcairiel | It did go to curse.com though |
15:16.53 | nevcairiel | just not CC |
15:17.10 | nevcairiel | Alphas from two days ago didn't make it, iirc |
15:17.27 | nevcairiel | Anyway, need to get on the roof do some cleanup |
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15:18.24 | ckknight | hey all, if svn or git stop responding, tell me |
15:18.44 | nevcairiel | they always do when you're sleeping |
15:18.45 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: roof? cleanup? :D |
15:18.45 | nevcairiel | :p |
15:18.55 | ckknight | nevcairiel: I changed something major |
15:19.05 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: yeah some drain got jammed there |
15:19.16 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: got a link to something more recent by chance? ^^ these seem to be minor enough to not be auto-updated :X |
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15:22.56 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: www.curse.com/client |
15:23.14 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: that site has newer stuff than "stable" now? :D |
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15:24.00 | Kaelten | lol |
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15:37.29 | Tinyboom | sraidframes has gotten a release lately right? can't see that it's on CC |
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15:55.48 | DanSouthy | anyone know of an addon that lets me see what items will dis into (amount of shards/essences/dusts)? |
15:56.23 | durcyn | DanSouthy: start with Panda |
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16:15.27 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r500 / (4 files in 2 directories): Mandatory bugfixes to the Frame Lock menu |
16:15.39 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/donation-links-on-curse-com/ |
16:19.54 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r102 Util.lua: Check for nil listings when matching pages. |
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16:22.09 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r128 TestAlpha.lua: doctest |
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16:23.05 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg 04v1.1.1 * r103 : Tagging as v1.1.1 |
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16:24.59 | aestil | quick grobbulous question |
16:25.17 | aestil | do the slime's despawn when Grobbulous dies |
16:25.21 | durcyn | no. |
16:25.38 | aestil | and can you see which melee caused the slime to spawn [if you have more than one spawn]? |
16:27.23 | jjb | you can see what player get a hit from Slime Spray |
16:27.26 | durcyn | you can see who takes damage from Slime Spray |
16:27.28 | durcyn | yeah, that. |
16:27.38 | aestil | ah. good call. |
16:27.47 | aestil | last night was our first 'full' clear of everything in one night |
16:27.50 | Gnarfoz | aestil: I smell an addition to libfail! |
16:28.04 | aestil | did maly/sarth3D/full naxx in about 3 hours. |
16:29.07 | Repo | 10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07master * e49d28a / (6 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits] |
16:29.11 | Repo | e49d28a: Add keybindings. |
16:29.14 | Repo | 04168b5: Add WoWEquip's Option Frame along with all the options. Include scroll to last item "hack" for Blizzard's Option Interface. |
16:29.17 | Repo | a1fe4e6: Do not try to wear items if the Dressing Room isn't shown. Do not try to wear uncached itemlinks in the Dressing Room as it counts as requesting the link from the server. |
16:29.20 | Repo | e558230: Hook any item sent to the Dressing Room to also equip in WoWEquip if the WoWEquip frame is open. |
16:30.39 | aestil | In fact, last night was freaking awesome |
16:30.48 | aestil | except that KT is still a little bitch and wont' drop staff. |
16:30.53 | aestil | i'm ALMOST sad to see this content go. |
16:31.03 | AckisWork | meh |
16:31.09 | aestil | said almost |
16:31.24 | aestil | for funsies I'd like Sarth3D drake |
16:31.29 | aestil | and KT cloak/staff |
16:31.43 | AckisWork | there's no way in hell I'm getting the plagued drake/etc so meh |
16:31.46 | aestil | but then, on the other hand, never having to do Naxx ever again. |
16:31.59 | aestil | is that the 310% drake? |
16:32.29 | AckisWork | the achievement drakes yes |
16:33.09 | aestil | yeah. those are nice. but really, if you can do sarth3d and maly 6, the rest of the achievments are just time wasters. Probably a lot of people COULD get the meta, but don't have the time to do all of them. |
16:33.20 | aestil | we go ours about a month ago. |
16:33.31 | aestil | which was nice, but it felt more like a relief, rather than a celebration |
16:33.37 | jjb | immortal is the hardest |
16:33.55 | aestil | immortal was the hardest to get, but its a bad achievment IMO. |
16:33.57 | jjb | or 10man twilight |
16:34.29 | aestil | I think 25 man immortal is harder to get than 10 man 3D, but 10 man 3D is fun, vs immortal, which is not. |
16:34.43 | aestil | getting, and going for immorotal is not fun. its just bad design. |
16:35.22 | aestil | AckisWork: why do you say there's no way to get them? |
16:35.24 | jjb | there will be also a immortal achievement in ulduar, but different |
16:35.42 | aestil | jjb: yeah, a good designed achievment. |
16:36.30 | AckisWork | aestil: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Azgalor&n=Ackis |
16:36.33 | jjb | you can make it over more IDs |
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16:37.34 | AckisWork | i've been really bummed out about not being able to get my drakes at all =/ |
16:38.01 | AckisWork | i just didn't really want to raid at all and then they said they're removing them and i'm like.... wtf? |
16:38.22 | aestil | yeah. well at least you should be able to 'go' for the ulduar ones. |
16:38.27 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: MDKP Client is localizable |
16:38.42 | AckisWork | aestil: i'm a collector/completionist |
16:38.47 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: I have the page open. :> |
16:38.51 | AckisWork | aestil: i can't have everything => I'm not happy :( |
16:38.52 | aestil | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Darkspear&n=Fdas |
16:39.04 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: although weirdly, I didn't get any emails when the ticket changed :( |
16:39.22 | pompyclass | blah we killed maly25 in 5:59 and didnt get the stupid achievement, yeah i know th ecombat ended time dael isnt always exact. |
16:40.17 | NeoTron | well the curse ticket system doesn't email you unless you opt in |
16:40.26 | NeoTron | and the opt in is per project afaik |
16:40.45 | aestil | pompyclass: actually, you have count for the time from when you hit the button to start the encounter |
16:40.51 | aestil | you always lose like 5 seconds there. |
16:41.20 | jjb | and there is still the bug where you have to wait for the achievement timer |
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16:41.36 | pompyclass | yeah i know |
16:41.43 | pompyclass | we pull him when hes right over the orb |
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16:44.25 | pompyclass | lol my friend lost his immortal run last night when a pally DI'd someone instead of salving them. |
16:44.33 | Repo | 10auctionstogo: 03SunTsu 07master * 8f24c2a / (2 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Initial version |
16:45.28 | AckisWork | i lost my immmortal at KT 50% 2 weeks ago |
16:45.49 | aestil | We lost an immortal run at KT 30%. |
16:45.51 | aestil | it happens. |
16:46.12 | aestil | Dedicated Few is another horrible achievment. |
16:47.08 | robotusch | aestil, same, only it was Undying |
16:47.21 | robotusch | our OT got frostblasted |
16:47.28 | aestil | just have to go back next week and do it again. |
16:47.36 | aestil | if it can be done once, it can be done a second time. |
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16:51.58 | pompyclass | yeah it sucks my guild got immortal on 2/16 and we can't get it since |
16:52.35 | Repo | 10auctionstogo: 03SunTsu 07master * 8e31779 .pkgmeta: [+2 commits] |
16:52.38 | Repo | 8e31779: Hopefully fixed libQTip in .pkgmeta |
16:52.41 | Repo | 9a2e487: Forgot .pkgmeta |
16:52.59 | NeoTron | the difference with dedicated few and immortal is that a guild can get dedicated for the entire guild in two weeks |
16:53.29 | pompyclass | we ran 2 , 20 man groups in one night, i was surprised |
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16:55.50 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: you can with immortal too, if you play good =) |
16:56.02 | nevcairiel | granted, we only got it for 25 people out of 40 yet |
16:56.05 | nevcairiel | but maybe today |
16:56.09 | nevcairiel | wanders off to riad |
16:56.10 | nevcairiel | *raid |
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17:00.59 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: well of course |
17:01.18 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: but 20 man is guaranteed in one week unless you suck really badly |
17:01.30 | NeoTron | while the chance of getting immortal even with perfect play isn't 100% |
17:02.16 | NivFreak | we got boned in a really bad way last night |
17:02.38 | NivFreak | last trash pull before mexenna knocked me clear from the ramp into her |
17:02.45 | NivFreak | we'd cleared all the rest of the wings |
17:02.46 | NivFreak | =/ |
17:03.16 | NivFreak | I don't even recall being knocked back by her before |
17:03.25 | NivFreak | her trash* |
17:04.44 | NeoTron | really? it always does that and it's annoying as heck |
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17:06.29 | AckisWork | dsfaasfdjksdafhdsfkjhfsdklkjassdfklhsfkjhlkjdsfhksdafjhksdfahfdkahfweflikawflkjashfklasjhfkasjhfkasjdhf |
17:06.33 | nevcairiel | why do you fight on the ramp? =P |
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17:13.03 | NeoTron | NivFreak: tried the new downloader? |
17:13.09 | NeoTron | @project mdkp-downloader |
17:13.10 | Repo | NeoTron: No project found that matches 'mdkp-downloader' |
17:13.17 | NeoTron | repo is wowace only? |
17:13.26 | NeoTron | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mdkp-dowloader.aspx' |
17:13.42 | NeoTron | it's java 1.5 and it seems to launch wow correctly if that feature is enabled |
17:13.51 | ckknight | NeoTron: no, wowace and curseforge |
17:14.28 | ckknight | hmm... |
17:15.26 | ckknight | okay, I have no idea where that is. |
17:16.39 | ckknight | @project mdkp-dowloader |
17:16.40 | Repo | ckknight: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/mdkp-dowloader/. MagicDKP Downloader. Game: WoW. dhedbor (Manager/Author). Updated: 11 hours ago |
17:16.52 | ckknight | missing an n |
17:17.04 | ckknight | and not anymore |
17:18.32 | nevcairiel | What does WIM use all the addon traffic for? |
17:18.51 | Gnarfoz | @project mdkp-downloader |
17:18.53 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/mdkp-downloader/. MagicDKP Downloader. Game: WoW. dhedbor (Manager/Author). Updated: 11 hours ago |
17:18.56 | NeoTron | oh I see |
17:18.58 | NeoTron | nice typo |
17:25.48 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I've been yanked around between the mobs plenty |
17:25.53 | NivFreak | NeoTron: never knocked back |
17:26.19 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: and we in the past pull the last pack onto the ramp to skip a couple trash pats |
17:26.31 | nevcairiel | see what that got you now! |
17:26.39 | NivFreak | well yes, hind sight |
17:26.48 | Fisker- | kisses NeoTron |
17:26.51 | NivFreak | but we've been doing it for 4 months, never had a problem |
17:26.52 | Fisker- | nom nom nom |
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17:40.53 | aestil | which one of these is right? |
17:40.55 | aestil | http://wowwebstats.com/v4oqygeljh66o?s=721301-755779 |
17:41.04 | aestil | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/2770619#damageout |
17:41.32 | NeoTron | typically when in doubt, trust WMO |
17:41.48 | NeoTron | never seen a case where WWS was correct and WMO was wrong |
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17:42.39 | aestil | seems fair. |
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17:44.45 | Primer | Anyone know if blizz is ever going to fix [flyable] for Dalaran/WG, etc? |
17:45.02 | AckisWork | no |
17:45.52 | NeoTron | aestil: specifically, WWS misses pets and in this case the Doomguard that Dahaliana summoned isn't shown |
17:45.55 | Primer | I grow tired of it |
17:46.11 | aestil | ah. |
17:46.21 | aestil | I'm fdas in that. it was my first night of SV huntering ever. |
17:46.25 | durcyn | specificallyl, the combat log is busticated and doesn't have a SPELL_SUMMON event for Ritual of Doom |
17:46.42 | aestil | i'm not impressed with our other hunters now. because the spec is almost as easy to play as BM. |
17:47.31 | NeoTron | durcyn: I believe WMO actually makes an educated guess |
17:47.49 | NeoTron | like it sees there are 3 locks and 2 have pets, so the DG must belong to the third one |
17:47.53 | durcyn | NeoTron: which is iffy on >1 doomguard |
17:47.55 | NeoTron | or it has SPELL_CAST |
17:48.02 | NeoTron | there has to be a cast event |
17:48.02 | durcyn | aye |
17:48.02 | robotusch | lol |
17:48.08 | robotusch | bai bai Noblegarden |
17:48.14 | NeoTron | bascially WMO is smarter in figuring shit out |
17:48.29 | AckisWork | robotusch: huh? |
17:49.15 | robotusch | It's being pushed back to a later date according to Blizzard |
17:49.58 | AckisWork | ah |
17:50.58 | robotusch | and bai bai Fuske |
17:51.00 | robotusch | Fusker |
17:51.43 | AckisWork | looks like you have more time for achievements eh? |
17:52.39 | robotusch | yeah, about 2 weeks by the look of it |
17:55.54 | aestil | 4/14/09 for 3/1 then? |
17:55.58 | aestil | or 4/21/09? |
17:56.04 | aestil | game still doesn't feel ready on the PTR |
17:56.07 | aestil | bosses for sure aren't. |
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18:03.26 | Primer | that didn't stop WotLK |
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18:07.18 | aestil | so recount knows which player to assign a pet to? |
18:07.23 | aestil | or is it 'guessing' also? |
18:09.09 | NeoTron | it "knows" from what I can see but it hasn't been without problems |
18:13.28 | aestil | are there any other damage meter's out there atm that can provide in game WMO type stuff? |
18:15.03 | ulic | I've been running Skada lately |
18:16.47 | many | skada seems inexact |
18:17.06 | many | atleast my numbers are in skade usually ~1/5 lower than other peoples recounts |
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18:27.08 | Venara|afk | NeoTron: i posted yet another ticket for MDKP :> |
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18:32.29 | Primer | How expensive is it to :Show()/:Hide() frames when they're already in that state? |
18:32.58 | Primer | should I always wrap all my show/hide with a check to make sure it'd be toggled, or is that going too far? |
18:33.18 | Primer | it's not happening in the OnUpdate |
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19:07.20 | NeoTron | Venara|afk: ok. I appreciate the reports bts |
19:07.29 | Venara|afk | okay :> |
19:07.29 | NeoTron | btw. still pretty much a work in process |
19:08.11 | NeoTron | I suspect that's an issue with how AceDB handles arrays |
19:08.20 | NeoTron | I have to manually handle that "default" I think |
19:08.59 | Venara|afk | well it's a really nice addon tbh. very well written with almost (nothings perfect :P) anything you could possibly need |
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19:09.26 | AckisWork | Venara|afk: don't compliment, just complain |
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19:10.01 | Venara|afk | AckisWork: yeah, i'll do that with your stuff, k? :p |
19:10.45 | AckisWork | you wouldn't be the first |
19:10.51 | Repo | 10bettermagnet: 03copystring * r20 BetterMagnet.lua: BetterMagnet: |
19:10.54 | Repo | - fix for locked items that prevented non-locked items to get looted |
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19:12.58 | Venara|afk | AckisWork: oh come on, ARL for example is very good, i love it |
19:13.47 | AckisWork | lots to be done |
19:13.49 | ckknight | this HTML work is too hard, I should rewrite wowace in Flash |
19:13.51 | AckisWork | little time i have |
19:14.00 | ckknight | well, no, I suppose I could do it in Silverlight |
19:14.02 | AckisWork | ~lart ckknight |
19:14.02 | purl | executes killall -HUP ckknight |
19:14.02 | ckknight | <.< |
19:14.03 | ckknight | >.> |
19:22.51 | NeoTron | Venara|afk: and I still have a rather long TODO list |
19:23.09 | Venara|afk | NeoTron: hehe, work never stops ;) |
19:25.59 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r159 Bidder/Bidder.lua: [*] Bidder: Fixed default bid priorities (ticket #10). |
19:26.49 | NeoTron | one thing I need to push up is handlign loot better from bosses that don't die.. |
19:26.56 | NeoTron | or rather, handling it at all |
19:28.14 | Primer | Are there raid bosses that don't die? |
19:28.19 | Primer | yet, give loot? |
19:29.53 | weab | like majordomo? |
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19:39.21 | NeoTron | yes |
19:39.59 | NeoTron | Kalecgos (but one boss died - just wasn't necessaril an event), Freya. Hodir, Mimiron and Thorim |
19:40.20 | NeoTron | Majordomo is easy to handle since you can check for all the adds dying |
19:40.44 | NeoTron | not that I handle that particular case... :P |
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19:40.52 | NeoTron | MagicDKP is not used to raid MC |
19:41.41 | AckisWork | @project magicdkp |
19:41.42 | Repo | AckisWork: No project found that matches 'magicdkp' |
19:41.45 | AckisWork | @project magic-dkp |
19:41.46 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/magic-dkp/. MagicDKP. Game: WoW. dhedbor (Manager/Author). Updated: 15 minutes ago. Tickets: 4/10 |
19:42.40 | AckisWork | @ticket magic-dkp 11 |
19:42.41 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/magic-dkp/tickets/11 - Doesn't work in MC. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Defect. Updated: 8 seconds ago. Status: New. Priority: Critical. Assignee: dhedbor. Votes: 0. Comments: 0 |
19:42.45 | AckisWork | NeoTron: do you hate me now? |
19:43.19 | durcyn | critical. classy. |
19:43.51 | AckisWork | aye |
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19:45.49 | AckisWork | at least vote it up durcyn |
19:46.35 | NeoTron | AckisWork: damn you AckisWork, damn you |
19:46.37 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: ticket system ftw, right? |
19:46.43 | durcyn | i don't even use magicdkp, what are you talking about |
19:46.55 | durcyn | ~lart AckisWork |
19:46.55 | purl | follow's AckisWork with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
19:47.15 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: also, for the Downloader part... what does the GetDKP ItemID switch do, if it doesn't do what it's labeled as? :D |
19:47.35 | NeoTron | chekcing it turns the export of item id's ON rather than OFF as the note might indicate |
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19:48.00 | NeoTron | although actually I think it'll fail regardless because there's a typo in the code :P |
19:48.09 | NeoTron | I need to send them my fixed up version so they can make it not fail |
19:48.11 | NeoTron | as much |
19:50.24 | Repo | 10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07master * 8040094 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
19:50.27 | Repo | 8040094: Add initial working Bonus Frame code. |
19:50.30 | Repo | 130e5ef: Attempt to fix swatch colors and text alignment. |
19:51.37 | AckisWork | xinhuan is not here? |
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19:53.28 | Stanzilla | 13:48:28 â Xinhuan: i won't be online the next 7 days |
19:53.29 | Stanzilla | 13:48:30 â Xinhuan: switching ISPs |
19:53.37 | AckisWork | o |
19:53.39 | AckisWork | i miss him |
19:54.33 | Cheads | that's a slow isp switch! |
19:54.59 | winkiller | ouch |
19:55.33 | Gnarfoz | actually, if it goes down in 7 days and afterwards all is stable again |
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19:55.52 | Gnarfoz | then that's ok-ish time |
19:55.53 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
19:55.55 | AckisWork | ~botmail for xinhuan: I miss you :( |
19:56.31 | Gnarfoz | rather than having your new ISP say "well, NO PROBLEM we'll switch you over in no time, you'll not even notice it happened!" which actually means 4 weeks without net access |
19:57.02 | AckisWork | i switched to a new ISP with losing access for about an hour |
19:57.16 | Gnarfoz | you're in a different country :O |
19:57.24 | AckisWork | canada |
19:57.29 | AckisWork | fuck it's snowing :( |
19:57.32 | Gnarfoz | yes. :P |
19:57.35 | Gnarfoz | haha |
19:57.43 | Gnarfoz | 22 degree Celsius tomorrow! |
19:57.49 | Gnarfoz | ~weather eddv |
19:57.52 | AckisWork | 3C tomorrow |
19:58.03 | Gnarfoz | can it do forecasts? :D |
19:58.25 | AckisWork | nein |
19:58.28 | AckisWork | haha |
19:58.32 | AckisWork | i speak german! |
19:58.43 | AckisWork | ~weather cyed |
19:58.46 | Gnarfoz | actually, you don't :D |
19:59.07 | SunTsu | AckisWork: That's something to be proud of, most germans don't ;) |
19:59.12 | AckisWork | meh i always get my codes mixed up |
19:59.25 | Stanzilla | SunTsu: that's mean :( |
19:59.37 | SunTsu | Stanzilla: And true, still |
19:59.48 | SunTsu | unfortunately |
20:00.09 | AckisWork | most germans speak english? |
20:00.29 | NeoTron | I was out of internet for about 30m if that when I switched from Comcrap to Verizon FIOS |
20:00.34 | NeoTron | I was rather impressed |
20:00.39 | NeoTron | maybe even less |
20:00.45 | SunTsu | AckisWork: Most germans don't speak any language fluently.. |
20:01.00 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: depending on who you ask... i.e. age group/origin |
20:01.23 | AckisWork | lol |
20:03.26 | Repo | 10talented: 03TrAsHeR * r501 Locales/frFR.lua: frFR update |
20:03.33 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: so that means... the downloader is currently useless because getdkp is broken anyway? |
20:04.15 | NivFreak | eh? |
20:04.36 | Gnarfoz | that's what I understood :D |
20:05.00 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: no |
20:05.06 | NeoTron | it doesn't REQUIRE the item id's |
20:05.10 | Gnarfoz | (also, with ItemIDs turned off it says "ItemIDs deactive" (lol engrish), with ItemIDs turned on, it says "No ItemIDs") |
20:05.24 | NeoTron | yeah |
20:05.32 | NeoTron | can you edit getdkp.php? |
20:05.36 | quiescens | o.o |
20:05.52 | Gnarfoz | no, not currently |
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20:06.25 | NeoTron | I believe there's a line "if( !($item_result))" that should be "if(!($item_results)" |
20:06.28 | NeoTron | loltypo |
20:06.47 | NeoTron | and this is germanrish I believe |
20:06.52 | NeoTron | doesn't quite have the same ring to it :P |
20:07.02 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm aware. |
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20:07.19 | NeoTron | the GetDKP addon is rather comically bad English. I'm not a native speaker, or writer either, but ugh |
20:07.22 | Gnarfoz | I recognize it wherever I go... luckily, "germanrish" doesn't exist |
20:07.40 | Gnarfoz | (and Denglisch is the opposite) |
20:08.14 | NeoTron | anyhow the item id's allow matching of items in the database to linked items if the locales mismatch |
20:08.24 | NeoTron | it compares first item id and then if it fails the name |
20:08.41 | nevcairiel | Their whole team is silly people, they can't write english, and they have the worst coding style i've ever seen |
20:08.46 | nevcairiel | and i've seen Ackis code! |
20:09.03 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: why do you have to be so goddamn concise? :P |
20:09.08 | NeoTron | as much as I'd want to, I don't think I could stomach writing my own dkp system |
20:09.25 | NivFreak | to replace eqdkp? |
20:09.29 | NeoTron | right |
20:09.30 | NivFreak | fuck that |
20:09.38 | nevcairiel | its too much work |
20:09.39 | nevcairiel | sadly |
20:09.40 | Gnarfoz | eqdkp itself is probably not that bad... |
20:09.43 | NeoTron | it's a piece of crap with a horribly designed schema |
20:09.44 | Gnarfoz | EQDKPlus however... |
20:09.47 | nevcairiel | its bad too |
20:09.51 | NeoTron | eqdkp itself is bad |
20:10.04 | NeoTron | the schema has a table eqdkp_users with both name and a primary integer key |
20:10.10 | Gnarfoz | well, then find me another word for EQDKPlus :D |
20:10.14 | NeoTron | despite this they use the fricking user NAME as the key in other tables |
20:10.17 | NeoTron | 3 others at least |
20:10.26 | NeoTron | so changing the name of someone involves many unrelated tables |
20:10.30 | nevcairiel | the name? o.O |
20:10.35 | nevcairiel | man |
20:10.50 | Gnarfoz | long story short: they need some working with a clue-by-four |
20:10.51 | Gnarfoz | :P |
20:11.03 | NivFreak | eqdkp plus is much nicer to use than the old eqdkp |
20:11.11 | nevcairiel | to use, yes |
20:11.16 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: yeah they use a string as a primary key when the name can and do change AND they have a numerical id |
20:11.41 | nevcairiel | for some reason all their hackjob code works |
20:11.47 | nevcairiel | must be in the nature of php |
20:11.49 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: insane amounts of coffee |
20:12.06 | Gnarfoz | is the only explanation I can come up with |
20:12.07 | Gnarfoz | :D |
20:12.18 | NeoTron | using a string isn't necessarily wrong without question but it sure as hell isn't good. :P |
20:12.28 | durcyn | eqdkp's codebase made me weep last time i looked at it |
20:13.08 | NeoTron | durcyn: funny thing is, it's much nicer than the ctrt importer and also the eqdkpplus code :P |
20:13.53 | durcyn | well, php in general is enough to evoke a tear, so |
20:14.31 | NeoTron | hell |
20:14.36 | NeoTron | I will write my own software |
20:14.45 | NeoTron | java probably because, as you say, php is horrid :P |
20:14.57 | durcyn | for a webapp? |
20:15.05 | durcyn | why not perl or ruby |
20:15.09 | Codayus | Do it in grails. |
20:15.13 | NeoTron | because I don't like perl either and don't know ruby |
20:15.28 | NeoTron | and frankly because IntelliJ IDEA is fricking awesome to work with |
20:16.05 | Codayus | But yeah, writing it in SOME web framework would make sense. And grails is cool. |
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20:21.30 | Codayus | (Plus, IntelliJ IDA supports it, I'm told.) |
20:23.30 | NeoTron | quite possible |
20:24.19 | NeoTron | ah grails is groovy |
20:24.31 | NivFreak | java based web apps have nearly all given me negative experiences |
20:25.05 | CrazyBenny | doubt thats a problem of java :P |
20:25.07 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1041 Recount_Modes.lua: |
20:25.10 | NeoTron | indeed |
20:25.11 | Repo | - Healing of pets will now merge with owners if set to do so. |
20:26.06 | NeoTron | The barrier of entry is lower with something like php |
20:26.12 | NeoTron | but then you get crap like eqdkp :P |
20:27.21 | CrazyBenny | luckily theres no need of JEE to make java based webapps these days, so its really easy, if you know basics of the language |
20:29.17 | NeoTron | yep |
20:29.24 | NeoTron | I like the concept of, for example, jaxb |
20:29.35 | NeoTron | the importer would essentially be |
20:29.57 | NeoTron | 1) generate java from xsd (already have the xsd), 2) decode xml, 3) get a java class hiarchy |
20:32.27 | CrazyBenny | hmm. never worked with it, but seems very simple |
20:32.34 | NeoTron | it is super nice |
20:32.50 | NeoTron | we had to use it on xml w/o a DTD/XSD and without specs |
20:33.02 | NeoTron | which was a bit iffy. but if you have the XSD it's mostly automatic |
20:33.12 | CrazyBenny | yeh, I bet |
20:33.41 | NeoTron | and ofc you can almost as automatically put things into the database too |
20:37.23 | CrazyBenny | interesting...I see green squares instead of earthshield, but all other effects are fine :o |
20:39.23 | AckisWork | pompy1: hi |
20:47.08 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1621 RecipeDB (3 files in 1 directory): |
20:47.11 | Repo | Add skeleton 3.1 stuff pompy did for me... still need the numbers and whatnot. |
20:50.32 | Repo | 10auctionstogo: 03SunTsu 07master * 3f4f8df Broker_AuctionsToGo.lua: [+1 commit] Improve tooltip layout and remove debug output |
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21:24.47 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1622 Docs/Main.txt: Update main page zh's |
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21:55.28 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r763 AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: Updated AceAddon-3.0 inline docs. |
21:56.43 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r210 / (11 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
21:56.46 | Repo | RaidBuffStatus: |
21:56.49 | Repo | - Blessings tooltip now shows slacking Paladins. |
21:56.52 | Repo | - Blessings tooltip now warns if Pally Power is set wrong or missing an assignment. |
21:56.55 | Repo | - Fixed DK Unholy Aura talent report. |
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22:04.44 | pompy | wth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeJ79d2-St4 |
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22:13.07 | Repo | 10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07master * 38fe81a / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Beautify the display by sorting the bonuses by categories efficiently. |
22:16.32 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1042 Recount_Modes.lua: |
22:16.34 | Repo | - Fixed that the wrong merge function was called for healing. Should now actually return healing and not damage. |
22:35.19 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r76 whispercommands.lua: Adding some comments |
22:42.30 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r77 whispercommands.lua: Fixing luadoc |
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22:54.45 | Repo | 10dropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07master * c5e6881 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Some options for the LDB text |
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