| 00:00.46 | NeoTron | answer: http://ace.pastey.net/111083 |
| 00:01.24 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 00:01.32 | NeoTron | that probably will break on beta with the color blind option |
| 00:01.36 | Catreina | no no no |
| 00:01.41 | Catreina | I dont want to scan tooltips |
| 00:01.51 | Catreina | I want to know from a function call! |
| 00:01.53 | NeoTron | me neither |
| 00:01.57 | Catreina | pouts |
| 00:02.08 | NeoTron | function mod:GetBindOn(item) <-- function call ;-) |
| 00:02.36 | Catreina | I see that |
| 00:02.37 | Catreina | lol |
| 00:03.04 | Catreina | but I wanted to not scan tooltips. that was part of the reason I was not using CraftyGnome! |
| 00:03.05 | Catreina | lol |
| 00:03.12 | NeoTron | well see you can't avoid it |
| 00:03.25 | Catreina | I see =( |
| 00:03.30 | NeoTron | there's quite a bit of info only available via tooltip scanning |
| 00:03.39 | NeoTron | like I want to know if a player can use an item |
| 00:03.46 | NeoTron | seems like the only way to know is tooltip scanning |
| 00:03.59 | Catreina | well I could, but it would take alot larger db (with a list of the soulbound items not to save) |
| 00:04.02 | NeoTron | I mean for token items |
| 00:04.56 | Catreina | well, it looks like the only thing I cant get from the tooltip for this is indeed whether it is BoP or not |
| 00:05.19 | Catreina | because everything else looks like it is in GetItemInfo in some form or another |
| 00:05.51 | Catreina | bah |
| 00:07.00 | vhaarr | you can't escape the gnome |
| 00:07.03 | vhaarr | ;P |
| 00:07.35 | NeoTron | you'd think that there would be query to see if _I_ can use the item or _I_ can equip it |
| 00:07.54 | NeoTron | but it seems the query methods just says whether the item itself is usable or equipable |
| 00:08.05 | NeoTron | for someone out there |
| 00:08.19 | taleden | is there any way to tell curse that my file is supposed to be compatible with 3.1? it sync'd automatically from wowace and defaulted to 3.0.9 |
| 00:10.04 | Catreina | I can indeed =) |
| 00:10.26 | Catreina | NeoTron just provided me a nice little 2 function snippet I can use to scan the damn tooltip =/ |
| 00:11.48 | vhaarr | doesn't work, you need to scan the whole tooltip |
| 00:12.12 | NeoTron | vhaarr: works for me.. on live right now |
| 00:12.22 | vhaarr | yeah, "right now" is the key phrase :p |
| 00:12.37 | NeoTron | see this: 17:01 < NeoTron> that probably will break on beta with the color blind option |
| 00:12.41 | vhaarr | ah |
| 00:12.46 | vhaarr | yeah you're right, it will break |
| 00:12.49 | NeoTron | since it then is the next roww |
| 00:13.20 | NeoTron | it seems like for usable or not I just scan for... the red color code! |
| 00:14.00 | vhaarr | "A new project launched by Google's Python engineers could make the popular programming language five times faster." |
| 00:14.03 | NeoTron | rather, equippable. I want MagicDKP Client to auto-pass if the player can't use it |
| 00:14.30 | NeoTron | aka we use python a lot, let's see how we can save a bazillion dollars by making it more efficient |
| 00:14.34 | Catreina | ok, why would I have to scan the whole tooltip? |
| 00:15.05 | NeoTron | Catreina: on the PTR the BoE thing isn't on line 2 but line 3. now I don't know any case where it would be on any other line though |
| 00:15.13 | Catreina | ohhhhh |
| 00:15.17 | vhaarr | NeoTron: you don't need that, you can use IsEquippableItem |
| 00:15.18 | Catreina | goddamnit |
| 00:15.23 | NeoTron | vhaarr: incorrect |
| 00:15.28 | vhaarr | because? |
| 00:15.30 | NeoTron | that returns true on items _I_ can't equip |
| 00:15.34 | NeoTron | like a shield on a DK |
| 00:15.41 | vhaarr | yeees ? |
| 00:15.43 | NeoTron | it just means the item itself is equippable by someone |
| 00:15.59 | Catreina | I just need to know if the item is bind on friggin pickup |
| 00:16.08 | Catreina | jc-only items ya know |
| 00:16.08 | NeoTron | vhaarr: => I want MagicDKP Client to auto-pass if the player can't use it |
| 00:16.23 | NeoTron | considered using a hardcoded list of jc only items? |
| 00:16.29 | NeoTron | not automagic but cleaner? |
| 00:16.47 | Catreina | cleaner but requires a little more vigilance with updating |
| 00:16.51 | vhaarr | NeoTron: ah right, it's not per-character |
| 00:16.54 | NeoTron | doesn't change that often |
| 00:17.22 | NeoTron | vhaarr: also I don't think it'd return true for an armor token which has Class: X, Y, Z |
| 00:17.31 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 00:17.36 | NeoTron | I'll probably have a class => item type mapping |
| 00:18.09 | NeoTron | to avoid tooltip scanning 99% of the time |
| 00:18.24 | NeoTron | although as I said might be easier just to scan for the color code used for "not usable" on the tooltip |
| 00:19.29 | Catreina | and I suppose theres no way to scan the whole tooltip in one call for a single piece of info? |
| 00:19.49 | vhaarr | sure there is |
| 00:20.00 | vhaarr | depends how you define "one call" |
| 00:20.02 | NeoTron | either manually loop through the lines - you want to look at LibGratuity-3.0 |
| 00:20.03 | Catreina | .... CG right? |
| 00:20.17 | vhaarr | CG scans the whole tooltip in one go |
| 00:20.21 | NeoTron | either to just look to see what it does or to use it if it fits your needs |
| 00:20.29 | Catreina | lawls |
| 00:20.31 | vhaarr | just look at CG, ignore gratuity |
| 00:20.39 | Catreina | cant escape that leper gnome |
| 00:20.39 | NeoTron | zign |
| 00:20.40 | Catreina | lol |
| 00:20.43 | NeoTron | zing |
| 00:20.47 | Catreina | that crafty leper gnome |
| 00:21.26 | Catreina | your scanItem code? |
| 00:21.29 | vhaarr | yes |
| 00:21.34 | vhaarr | the whole do ... end block |
| 00:21.46 | NeoTron | in the end it's a mess that you're required to use tooltips for this shit |
| 00:21.47 | Catreina | I was looking at that earlier |
| 00:21.51 | Catreina | very very concise |
| 00:22.08 | Catreina | had me confused until someone told me about how it is in there to be in its own namespace |
| 00:22.19 | Catreina | with scanItem being... upvalue? |
| 00:22.21 | vhaarr | yes |
| 00:22.46 | Catreina | so yeah. |
| 00:23.19 | Catreina | that is one nifty piece of code |
| 00:23.53 | Catreina | loops through everything in the tooltip, concatenates it all, then you can do a search on the whole string. |
| 00:24.03 | Catreina | NeoTron - you could do that too |
| 00:24.10 | Catreina | lol |
| 00:24.22 | Catreina | promote the gnome |
| 00:24.22 | vhaarr | if you're just looking for the BoP string, you shouldn't do that |
| 00:24.35 | Catreina | then what? |
| 00:24.36 | vhaarr | then you'd just loop through the strings and check each string, don't concat them all |
| 00:24.53 | vhaarr | in the |for i = 1, scanner:NumLines() do| loop |
| 00:25.09 | vhaarr | and you'd only have to scan for the left line |
| 00:25.18 | vhaarr | err, nvm that |
| 00:25.22 | vhaarr | then do |
| 00:25.25 | vhaarr | local left, right = lcache[i]:GetText(), rcache[i]:GetText() |
| 00:25.38 | vhaarr | if left == ITEM_BIND_ON_PICKUP or right == ITEM_BIND_ON_PICKUP then return true end |
| 00:25.55 | vhaarr | and call the function isItemBoP |
| 00:25.58 | vhaarr | for example |
| 00:26.09 | Catreina | so the only time I actually run through the whole tooltip would be if the BoP line was the very last |
| 00:26.16 | Catreina | interesting |
| 00:27.21 | NeoTron | right |
| 00:27.30 | NeoTron | and yeah I need to change mine |
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| 00:31.46 | Catreina | can you have a local function inside a function? |
| 00:32.13 | NeoTron | yes |
| 00:32.30 | Catreina | awesome |
| 00:32.38 | NeoTron | and you can have a local function in the function local function too if you so wish! |
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| 00:34.15 | Catreina | nice |
| 00:34.30 | taleden | you can even define a function, call it in-place, and let it immediately disappear to be garbage-collected |
| 00:40.15 | Catreina | what the?!? There are LOTTERY Functions?!? |
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| 00:42.30 | Kilroo1 | The more I learn about Lua |
| 00:42.46 | Kilroo1 | the more it feels like coding in Javascript with SQL syntax |
| 00:45.10 | Catreina | whoah |
| 00:45.15 | Catreina | memory leak |
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| 00:45.54 | Catreina | memory allocation error: block too big |
| 00:45.55 | Catreina | lol |
| 00:46.09 | Koben | Hey uhm.. maybe it's just my imagination, but all of a sudden all the font outlines in WoW seem really jagged and ugly. |
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| 00:47.55 | Arrowmaster | theyve always been jagged and ugly |
| 00:48.54 | Koben | I guess I've just noticed then.. |
| 00:48.54 | Catreina | wow |
| 00:49.19 | Catreina | two opens of the JC panel with my mod running and I jump from 1mb to 1.5 |
| 00:49.41 | Arrowmaster | "08:31:46p (Catreina) can you have a local function inside a function?" |
| 00:49.42 | Arrowmaster | dont do that |
| 00:50.03 | Arrowmaster | unless youre absolutly sure about what you are doing |
| 00:50.39 | Catreina | hmmm |
| 00:50.42 | NeoTron | Koben: seems to happens sometimes to me |
| 00:51.16 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1615 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:51.19 | Repo | - fixed obtain/general frame width and some comments (Ticket 461) |
| 00:52.08 | Catreina | well I'll be damned |
| 00:52.33 | Catreina | taking the tooltip scanning code that vhaarr suggested i look at seems to have stopped the leak |
| 00:52.49 | Koben | They definitely seem more jaggedy and blocky than usual. |
| 00:52.55 | Catreina | why not embed functions within functions? |
| 00:53.46 | ckknight | Catreina: each closure takes up memory. It's 16 bytes + 4 bytes per unchanged upvalue + 16 bytes per changed upvalue |
| 00:55.20 | Koben | I guess they always have been |
| 00:55.54 | Catreina | whats a closure, for those of us (me) who have only been at this a day. |
| 00:56.49 | ckknight | a closure is an instance of a function, basically |
| 00:56.56 | ckknight | e.g. |
| 00:57.19 | ckknight | lua> local function make() return function() end end; print(make(), make(), make()) |
| 00:57.20 | lua_bot | ckknight: function: 0x80844e0, function: 0x80844c8, function: 0x8084760 |
| 00:57.31 | ckknight | they're all the same function, but separate closures |
| 00:58.58 | ckknight | the function itself takes up a static memory, which isn't a big deal, but each closure takes up new memory on each creation |
| 00:59.14 | Catreina | ok |
| 00:59.22 | Catreina | so how do you clean that up? |
| 00:59.47 | ckknight | by moving the internal one out of the other function |
| 00:59.56 | ckknight | so it's declared once |
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| 01:00.28 | ckknight | lua> local function f() end; local function make() return f end; print(make(), make(), make()) |
| 01:00.29 | lua_bot | ckknight: function: 0x8084420, function: 0x8084420, function: 0x8084420 |
| 01:01.33 | Catreina | so this => http://paste.wowace.com/400/ being the code vhaarr has in CraftyGnome for tooltip scanning (modified for Jeweler/JCList) is bad? |
| 01:01.41 | Catreina | well, not bad, but not efficient? |
| 01:02.03 | vhaarr | that's bad |
| 01:02.14 | Catreina | what did I do that I shouldnt have done? =) |
| 01:02.24 | Koben | Well this is irritating. I'm not able to change the font over people's heads despite replacing the font that does it in the Fonts\ folder. I know it's possible.. |
| 01:02.26 | Catreina | I should take the functions out right? |
| 01:02.35 | vhaarr | you create a new scanner on each invoke of :isBOP |
| 01:02.38 | vhaarr | yes |
| 01:02.42 | Gnarfoz | Koben: replaced all 4 instances in the font folder? |
| 01:03.01 | Koben | Arial and Friz.. I was told it was Friz. |
| 01:03.04 | Gnarfoz | Koben: or rather 'placed', not replaced, since no Fonts\ folder exists |
| 01:03.07 | Koben | FRIZQT__.ttf |
| 01:03.10 | Catreina | thats the memory leak I saw occur when spamming the rescan button |
| 01:03.14 | Koben | It replaced it for other things |
| 01:03.14 | Catreina | it crashed wow for me =) |
| 01:03.23 | Koben | but not the font over people's heads |
| 01:03.39 | Gnarfoz | try making all 4 copies of the same font |
| 01:03.41 | Gnarfoz | it should change |
| 01:04.00 | Gnarfoz | you can go back and return them to their originals one-by-one and see which one it is |
| 01:04.14 | vhaarr | Catreina: http://paste.wowace.com/401/ this is what you want |
| 01:04.35 | Catreina | yeah |
| 01:04.39 | Catreina | thats what I was just doing |
| 01:04.54 | vhaarr | you see, stop running from the gnome, embrace it |
| 01:05.19 | Koben | I just replaced all four fonts and the font used above people's heads is still the same.. |
| 01:05.31 | vhaarr | Koben: did you restart wow? |
| 01:05.35 | Koben | Yes |
| 01:06.01 | vhaarr | ARIALN.ttf FRIZQT__.ttf MORPHEUS.ttf skurri.ttf |
| 01:06.05 | vhaarr | those are the font names |
| 01:06.18 | Koben | They sure are. |
| 01:06.31 | vhaarr | so you've got some addon that sets the font ingame then |
| 01:06.34 | Koben | Oh here we go. I deleted ClearFont2 and now it's doing it. |
| 01:06.40 | vhaarr | heh |
| 01:07.00 | Kilroo1 | Aw, CRAP. |
| 01:07.16 | Koben | Does anyone know a really, really big font I can use for people's heads because I can never freaking read it |
| 01:07.19 | Catreina | frickin Pyrestones are ilvl 100?!? |
| 01:07.43 | vhaarr | Catreina: yes, TBC epic gems are higher item level than WotLK blues |
| 01:08.13 | Catreina | wow, horrendous |
| 01:08.25 | Catreina | imho of course |
| 01:08.25 | Catreina | =) |
| 01:08.36 | Kilroo1 | Oh good. |
| 01:08.50 | Kilroo1 | I had a backup of my modified picoButtons with tooltips. |
| 01:09.37 | Koben | Kilroo: With fixed squashed buttons? |
| 01:09.41 | vhaarr | Catreina: the good news is, wotlk epic/blue and tbc epic/blue each have their own, static item level, so do with that information what you want |
| 01:09.49 | Kilroo1 | No, no fixed buttons. Just tooltips. |
| 01:09.58 | Kilroo1 | Buttons are quite squashedy. |
| 01:09.58 | Koben | Huh. What's wrong with the tooltips? |
| 01:10.11 | Kilroo1 | um, it doesn't come with them? |
| 01:10.13 | vhaarr | Catreina: i.e. all TBC epic gems are ilvl 100 |
| 01:10.17 | vhaarr | but no wotlk ones are |
| 01:10.18 | Kilroo1 | At least not as far as I could tell. |
| 01:10.18 | Koben | Killroo: Use Docking Station |
| 01:10.19 | Catreina | yeah |
| 01:10.25 | fewyn | wtb more people to test new vault boss alliance side on the pvp ptr realm |
| 01:10.26 | Koben | picoButtons works flawlessly with Docking Station |
| 01:10.28 | Koben | No squished buttons either |
| 01:10.28 | Kilroo1 | What's Docking Station? |
| 01:10.42 | Koben | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11831-DockingStationDisplay.html This |
| 01:10.50 | Kilroo1 | Maybe it has a feature I can rip out and put in cargoShip |
| 01:10.54 | Catreina | Don Julio's Heart == ilvl 130 =/ |
| 01:11.20 | Kilroo1 | Or NinjaPanel. |
| 01:11.27 | Kilroo1 | If I break down and try it. |
| 01:12.03 | Koben | Docking Station finally enabled me to switch over to LDB |
| 01:13.09 | Koben | So does anyone know of an overscaled font I can use for using above people's heads in WoW? |
| 01:13.24 | NivFreak | iPhone autenticator ftw |
| 01:13.34 | NivFreak | no more dongle for me |
| 01:16.12 | Koben | I'm never able to read them unless I'm in someone's face. |
| 01:18.23 | Catreina | hmm |
| 01:18.42 | Catreina | bc rares and wrath uncommons are both ilvl 70 it looks like |
| 01:24.29 | aestil | i'm moving around the party group in PB4 |
| 01:24.35 | aestil | and its randmonly snaping to some invisible stuff. |
| 01:24.41 | aestil | I can't tell why, or what. |
| 01:24.45 | aestil | even if I hold down shift |
| 01:26.44 | aestil | they like 'bounce away' from the edge |
| 01:26.48 | aestil | these are vertical UF's |
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| 01:31.26 | Catreina | I am done coding for now |
| 01:31.30 | Catreina | my brain hurts |
| 01:31.41 | Catreina | I will pick it up again on Monday or so =) |
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| 01:34.21 | Catreina | stupid me closed instead of minimizing =/ |
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| 01:40.25 | thul | the episode where amber dies, house md, makes me sad |
| 01:53.10 | ckknight | thul: yea |
| 01:58.30 | thul | indeed. |
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| 02:16.43 | thul | anyone can suggest a sci-fi, thriller or action movie I should download and watch? |
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| 02:20.34 | ckknight | thul: Thirteenth Floor |
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| 02:21.15 | thul | hmm, good point, I never got around to seeing that |
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| 02:25.01 | ulic | yea Thirteenth Floor was much better than I expected. |
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| 02:27.52 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * bb9b53a / (7 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] add VisualHeal module, using LibHealComm-3.0. Mostly based off of the version from PB3. |
| 02:27.59 | ckknight | Stanzilla: test ^-- |
| 02:28.46 | ulic | hooray! |
| 02:29.04 | SqueeG | The higher learning mod confuses me... |
| 02:29.07 | ulic | that and debuff borders where the things I missed the most from pb3 |
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| 02:36.31 | Wizardling | Hi - how can I reset my settings window's position? |
| 02:36.55 | Wizardling | It's dragged up so far the draggable toolbar is no longer reachable |
| 02:36.59 | ckknight | blah |
| 02:37.05 | thul | I'm downloading thirtheenth floor and fifth element |
| 02:37.05 | ckknight | what settings window? |
| 02:37.06 | thul | sounds like a good saturday :-) |
| 02:37.09 | thul | cya tomorrow guys I'll just jump off to bed now. |
| 02:37.12 | ckknight | thul: sure does |
| 02:37.16 | Wizardling | reloading the UI does nothing (though I seem to recall it working before) |
| 02:37.26 | Wizardling | the game's settings window |
| 02:37.41 | Wizardling | specifically the Interface window |
| 02:38.03 | Wizardling | any ideas? |
| 02:38.30 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss * r37 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 02:38.33 | Repo | Added Offhand option (defaults to On) to toggle looking in Off-Hand for the weapon. |
| 02:38.38 | Wizardling | I'm seriously considering restoring WoW from my last backup, but that's just dumb to have to do. |
| 02:39.53 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.0.9.6 * r38 : Tagging as v3.0.9.6 |
| 02:40.08 | ckknight | Wizardling: *shrug* |
| 02:40.18 | ckknight | Wizardling: didn't realize that moved. |
| 02:41.20 | ulic | Wizardling: try editing your layout-local.txt file InterfaceOptionsFrame |
| 02:41.48 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 367d600 / (6 files in 4 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 02:41.49 | Wizardling | that's insane |
| 02:41.51 | Repo | 367d600: Rename Banzai to Aggro |
| 02:41.52 | Wizardling | no offence |
| 02:41.54 | Repo | b8642f5: Make the Banzai module a bit saner. |
| 02:41.54 | ulic | not sure if those are stored serverside also or not, based on the name I'd guess so |
| 02:42.03 | ulic | that's not insane at all |
| 02:42.19 | Wizardling | oh yes it is |
| 02:42.20 | ulic | is sitting right in your charcaters directory |
| 02:42.49 | Wizardling | there should be an easy way to move windows back to default positions if you can drag them off the damn screen |
| 02:43.14 | ckknight | Wizardling: InterfaceOptionsFrame:SetClampedToScreen(true) |
| 02:43.16 | ulic | Wizardling: well be default you can't move that window, so maybe having an addon that allows you to is the insanity. |
| 02:43.17 | Wizardling | Are Blizzard telling newbies to edit config files? |
| 02:43.25 | Wizardling | We'll see - *requests a GM* |
| 02:43.28 | ckknight | Wizardling: you can't move the options frame without an addon. |
| 02:43.29 | ulic | s/be/by |
| 02:43.41 | ckknight | Wizardling: so what you're doing is addon-caused anyway |
| 02:43.50 | Wizardling | hmmm... I guess it is an addon... |
| 02:43.56 | Wizardling | which I do not recall |
| 02:44.22 | ulic | I know BetterBlizzardOptions or something like that lets you, i'm sure there are others too |
| 02:44.23 | ckknight | Wizardling: seriously, /script InterfaceOptionsFrame:SetClampedToScreen(true) |
| 02:45.08 | Wizardling | ah - that's the one I have |
| 02:45.30 | Wizardling | TY ulic |
| 02:45.49 | ulic | you're welcome |
| 02:45.59 | Wizardling | I'll try that ckknight |
| 02:46.40 | ulic | you might be able to disable the addon, have it snap back to middle and then re-enable, but I'd go with ckk's way, less painful. |
| 02:48.31 | Wizardling | ck - you're a beautiful man *kisses* |
| 02:48.45 | Wizardling | That was extremely frustrating. |
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| 02:49.16 | Wizardling | this is what happens when you never go without an addon that does something basic like this for years |
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| 02:50.03 | Wizardling | I should try no addons sometime. |
| 02:50.07 | Wizardling | Just for kicks |
| 02:50.42 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:50.43 | ckknight | it sucks |
| 02:50.50 | BWMerlin | i find there are some addons i just really have to have |
| 02:50.52 | ckknight | okay |
| 02:51.03 | ckknight | please test out PitBull4's new VisualHeal module. |
| 02:51.13 | ckknight | anyone who's interested |
| 02:52.40 | Wizardling | might be reason enough for me to upgrade my PB for my new druid who'll go resto |
| 02:52.47 | askr | that's actually one of the things I was missing from pitbull3, will try it tomorrow |
| 02:52.50 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 02:53.03 | ckknight | yea, askr, I was missing it, too. I play a Druid and a Priest currently |
| 02:53.39 | BWMerlin | Xinhuan: is your latest version of wowequip available via the CC |
| 02:53.44 | Xinhuan | no |
| 02:53.57 | Xinhuan | i've set it so that no zips are created for now |
| 02:56.24 | BWMerlin | ok, is it ready for public testing? |
| 02:57.38 | Xinhuan | not that soon, while i'm busy grinding oshugun powder and booty bay reps ;p |
| 03:00.22 | BWMerlin | lol have fun with that |
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| 03:00.48 | ckknight | I hate entitled assholes. |
| 03:01.15 | ckknight | well, self-entitled |
| 03:01.21 | ckknight | or people who feel entitled but aren't |
| 03:01.25 | ckknight | I guess |
| 03:01.55 | BWMerlin | ? |
| 03:02.35 | ckknight | I read this blog post: http://www.ronfgreen.net/?p=9 |
| 03:02.56 | ckknight | I have no sympathy for the handicapped. |
| 03:03.31 | ckknight | why does he feel he deserves free money? what does he provide to warrant that? nothing, it seems, outside of his handicap |
| 03:05.27 | BWMerlin | hmm he doesnt make a convincing argument as to why i should help him over someone else |
| 03:05.54 | BWMerlin | and i don't understand why programming on mac would be different to linux or windows |
| 03:06.22 | BWMerlin | he didnt list what programming language he was trying to learn so OS choice is irrelevant |
| 03:06.53 | ckknight | ruby |
| 03:06.56 | ckknight | but that's irrelevant |
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| 03:18.15 | resker | He's asking for money for a macbook but he just bought an iPhone? |
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| 03:24.40 | ckknight | Cryect: that appears to be the case |
| 03:27.04 | Cavisty^gerber | http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0327092sham1.html |
| 03:47.24 | ckknight | ha, Cavisty^gerber |
| 03:47.42 | Vonhinten | hooker is pretty fine |
| 03:47.53 | Vonhinten | must have a thing for tongues... |
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| 05:11.38 | digmouse | ckknight: ping |
| 05:11.45 | ckknight | digmouse: pong |
| 05:12.12 | digmouse | is it able for ace3config to order the entries by a certain list? |
| 05:12.22 | Fisker- | ckknight |
| 05:12.28 | Fisker- | aren't you a iphone fag? |
| 05:12.28 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 05:12.34 | ckknight | digmouse: order = 1234 |
| 05:12.50 | ckknight | Fisker-: no, I have a T-Mobile G1 |
| 05:12.53 | digmouse | like I wanna see HPbar first then MP below, not just by first letter |
| 05:12.56 | Fisker- | fuck android |
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| 05:14.35 | digmouse | the options entries in PB4 sounds like to be listed in letters only :P |
| 05:15.22 | Fisker- | also ckknight |
| 05:15.27 | Fisker- | Windows Mobile >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * |
| 05:15.41 | Fisker- | we like hack the world |
| 05:15.47 | ckknight | digmouse: um, what? |
| 05:17.21 | digmouse | ckknight: a lot ppl like me, are used to set up HPbar first then MPbar, and blah blah, so the options list should fit better if it was in a certain order, not naturally by the first letter I think |
| 05:17.53 | digmouse | just a hunch heh, dont know if this will cost much work |
| 05:20.19 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03TAP3AH 06tap3ah * r26 / (22 files in 7 directories): mainline content updated to r20090328024138 |
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| 05:23.50 | Repo | 10grid: 03Greltok * r1174 GridStatusAggro.lua: Now handles nil result from UnitThreatSituation(). |
| 05:27.29 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r170 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix bug where frame is held by the mouse when moving. |
| 05:27.57 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r171 FlightHUD.toc: And update TOC. |
| 05:29.55 | TradeMark | ckknight: nice interview :P |
| 05:30.19 | ckknight | TradeMark: cool |
| 05:30.23 | Fisker- | wat interview? |
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| 05:30.42 | TradeMark | those hosts are kinda muppets tho >.> lol |
| 05:30.59 | TradeMark | http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/view/21205 |
| 05:31.06 | TradeMark | like 30ish minutes in |
| 05:31.07 | Fisker- | fuck logins |
| 05:32.19 | TradeMark | I'll change my password |
| 05:33.08 | TradeMark | TomNZ/wowace |
| 05:33.16 | TradeMark | use that if you want, I know I won't be using it again :P |
| 05:34.18 | syeren | ckknight, you got interviewed by Zalmah and Jay? |
| 05:34.19 | syeren | Hahaha. |
| 05:34.40 | ckknight | I got interviewed by James Harding |
| 05:34.55 | syeren | Yeah. Jay. |
| 05:34.56 | syeren | :p |
| 05:35.01 | syeren | 2GD. |
| 05:35.51 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:36.02 | ckknight | why'd you laugh, syeren? |
| 05:36.22 | syeren | Because those two are normally pretty funny, 2GD has a reputation for ripping people apart ;p |
| 05:36.42 | syeren | But I figure you're intelligent enough for him not to find any openings! |
| 05:36.59 | Fisker- | makes fun of Android |
| 05:39.57 | ckknight | syeren: yea, they might start an addon-of-the-week thing |
| 05:41.43 | BWMerlin | does ag_unit frames have a set focus frame i cant seem to find it |
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| 05:55.34 | syeren | ckknight, your mic is horrible! |
| 05:55.35 | syeren | :p |
| 05:55.41 | ckknight | it was a phone. |
| 05:55.46 | syeren | Ah. |
| 05:56.25 | ckknight | and it's a bit better than the previous guy |
| 05:56.25 | ckknight | hehe |
| 05:56.39 | syeren | Yeah, Coold is also Eastern European though! |
| 05:56.53 | syeren | He normally sounds better on Vent though. |
| 05:58.50 | syeren | "I do it for the women". |
| 05:58.57 | syeren | The best part is that is true! |
| 06:02.40 | Fisker- | makes fun of android again |
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| 06:05.58 | syeren | Good interview, apart from the ending, ckknight! |
| 06:06.17 | ckknight | what was the ending? |
| 06:06.28 | syeren | Where your phone coverage seemed to die. |
| 06:06.30 | syeren | :p |
| 06:07.08 | ckknight | hmm |
| 06:07.10 | ckknight | oh |
| 06:07.12 | ckknight | yea, it was odd |
| 06:07.30 | ckknight | I could still hear them fine |
| 06:07.47 | syeren | :x |
| 06:10.12 | Zhinjio | hey ck |
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| 06:10.21 | Fisker- | invests all of ckknight's money into a mutual market fund aaaand it's gone! |
| 06:12.39 | Vonhinten | Never trust a sub-prime-fisker |
| 06:14.05 | SqueeG | ckk |
| 06:14.57 | ckknight | hey SqueeG |
| 06:15.00 | ckknight | hey Zhinjio |
| 06:15.09 | SqueeG | Heya, amigo |
| 06:15.19 | SqueeG | Quick question... |
| 06:15.54 | SqueeG | The plugin category between Curse and WoWAce.... why don't they match up? |
| 06:18.14 | Fisker- | yay |
| 06:18.18 | Fisker- | new Windows 7 build |
| 06:18.50 | Axodious | has anyone had an issue where you can't use vehicle attacks? |
| 06:18.56 | SqueeG | If only I had an x64 system :p |
| 06:19.05 | Axodious | on my hunter and warlock i can't seem to use vehicle abilities :/ |
| 06:19.12 | Fisker- | both are leaked as far as i can tell |
| 06:19.19 | Fisker- | but only n00bs don't got x64 |
| 06:19.32 | SqueeG | Poor people don't have x64 =p |
| 06:20.10 | Axodious | also i couldnt use any of the abilities on the drakuru quests where you use the command rods |
| 06:20.27 | SqueeG | any bar addons that might be interfering? |
| 06:20.37 | Axodious | im using bt4, but the strange thing is |
| 06:20.40 | BWMerlin | is windows 7 64bit only? |
| 06:20.41 | Fisker- | "poor people" |
| 06:20.41 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 06:20.43 | Axodious | im using the same profile on all characters |
| 06:20.45 | Axodious | and my shaman is fine |
| 06:20.45 | Fisker- | poor people don't have computers at all then |
| 06:20.51 | Fisker- | x64 is cheap as shit |
| 06:20.53 | Fisker- | and no BWMerlin |
| 06:21.13 | SqueeG | I don't have the money to buy an entirely new computer Fisk =p |
| 06:21.16 | Fisker- | infact i doubt you can even get a CPU these days that's not x64 |
| 06:21.21 | Fisker- | your mom SqueeG |
| 06:21.26 | SqueeG | Word |
| 06:21.35 | BWMerlin | it depends what you mean by "cpu" |
| 06:21.42 | Fisker- | gonna try out that there wheelman game! |
| 06:22.00 | BWMerlin | if you mean something for your home computer you are probably right in saying you cant get a non 64bit |
| 06:22.33 | SqueeG | pretty sure most cheap pcs are still being sold with 32bit |
| 06:22.34 | BWMerlin | but if you mean overall there are a shit load of cpu's for many devices so yeah you can still get a none 64bit |
| 06:25.21 | Fisker- | FAIL GAME IS FAIL |
| 06:25.31 | Fisker- | i start the first mission |
| 06:25.35 | Fisker- | so there's a police roadblock up ahead |
| 06:25.39 | Fisker- | I'm told to turn left |
| 06:26.10 | Fisker- | I do so and crash another police car which prompts a "cool cinematic" and since the "cool cinematic" takes away vehicle control i end up in the roadblock busted |
| 06:26.10 | Fisker- | gg |
| 06:28.10 | robotusch | So Fusker, how many spins did you make yesterday? :D |
| 06:30.29 | robotusch | and are you going to give me a hand with group quests today? :3 |
| 06:44.06 | Fisker- | never |
| 06:44.09 | Fisker- | doing wheelman |
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| 07:08.10 | robotusch | >:( |
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| 07:44.39 | BWMerlin | anyone having problems with the latest version of prat |
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| 07:50.21 | Kuja^ | nope, no issues here |
| 07:59.08 | BWMerlin | Installed:3.1.0b1-nolib (Released: 2009/03/20) with that version tekkcompare isnt working on chat links and i also can not click on any chat links or toon names |
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| 08:11.27 | Fisker- | Raid offline |
| 08:11.28 | Fisker- | Can we fix it? |
| 08:11.31 | Fisker- | No it's fucked :( |
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| 08:24.45 | Repo | 10ammo-matique: 03Anyia3 * r2 / (6 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 08:24.48 | Repo | * Initial import of work-in-progress: |
| 08:24.52 | Repo | - Auto-reload is working |
| 08:24.55 | Repo | - Auto-switching not fully implemented |
| 08:24.58 | Repo | - Config interface not completed or hooked up yet |
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| 08:39.26 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r117 / (3 files in 3 directories): |
| 08:39.29 | Repo | [*]Prepopulate bid-list with online members of the raid, to make it easy to see who hasn't bid yet. |
| 08:39.32 | Repo | [*]Add support for Auto Pass from MagicDKP_Client (marked differently and sorted last). |
| 08:41.00 | Repo | 10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r48 MagicDKP_Client.lua: |
| 08:41.03 | Repo | [*]Added option (enabled by default) to auto-pass on DKP bids for items you can't use. This includes filtering out spell/melee/tank items for classes that can't make reasonble use of them. |
| 08:44.19 | orionshock | is it me or does WIM spam "!Negotiate:Ver" liek a whore? |
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| 08:44.58 | Repo | 10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r49 MagicDKP_Client.lua: [*]Fixed issue with config dialog. |
| 08:46.50 | Repo | 10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r19 Modules/LootMenu/LootMenu.lua: [*]Throttle raid update event with a 10s timer. |
| 08:46.53 | Repo | [*]Hide offline raid members from the loot dropdown. |
| 08:46.56 | Repo | [*]Correctly remove people / classes from the dropdown list when they leave the raid/party. |
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| 09:02.21 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r1926 / (12 files in 7 directories): - Tier 8 set finalized |
| 09:02.24 | Repo | - Leviathan 10Man |
| 09:03.32 | Fisker- | Wheelman > GTA 4 |
| 09:03.36 | Fisker- | sad aint it? |
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| 09:08.54 | nevcairiel | is the svn server slow or is it just me? |
| 09:09.43 | Fisker- | it's just you |
| 09:11.00 | Zyndrome | you live in an alternate dimension, where everything is slow, and a blink of an eye is a days labor |
| 09:11.25 | nevcairiel | wouldnt then everything be fast? |
| 09:11.47 | nevcairiel | I'm blinking alot, but i don't even get my mods to update =P |
| 09:11.49 | Zyndrome | except you experience real time! |
| 09:12.42 | Zyndrome | and www.donkdj.com failed "We Will Rock You" with Queen :| |
| 09:13.32 | Fisker- | aaaaaaaaand it's gone! |
| 09:21.36 | Groktar | tickles Fisker- |
| 09:21.50 | Groktar | grabs Fisker-'s wallet and scampers |
| 09:22.46 | robotusch | bonks Grochtar with a Margaritaville |
| 09:23.14 | Groktar | wonders what he can get for it |
| 09:23.18 | Groktar | consults the chart |
| 09:24.18 | Groktar | is there a way to prevent flash from knowing when it loses focus? |
| 09:24.28 | robotusch | do note the special spelling method ;o |
| 09:24.48 | Groktar | i hate that if i make something fullscreen on one monitor |
| 09:25.03 | Groktar | and then i want to type nonsense in irc |
| 09:25.14 | Groktar | it isn't fullscreen anymore |
| 09:26.13 | robotusch | yeah, I feel your pain |
| 09:27.46 | Fisker- | puts all of your money in a money market mutual fund |
| 09:28.01 | Groktar | meh, i don't have any to begin with |
| 09:28.04 | robotusch | aaaaaaaaaand it's gone |
| 09:29.09 | Fisker- | good news Groktar |
| 09:29.16 | Fisker- | i just got a million dollars out of your 0 dollars |
| 09:29.27 | Fisker- | now to just reinvest it aaaaaaaaand it's gone! |
| 09:29.28 | robotusch | aaaaaaaaaand it's gone |
| 09:30.38 | robotusch | the best part of it is that it reminds me a hell of a lot of my old bank |
| 09:31.40 | Fisker- | http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ie.html <-unsuccessful trolls are unsuccessful |
| 09:33.04 | nevcairiel | that page lies |
| 09:33.12 | Fisker- | duh |
| 09:33.14 | nevcairiel | it claims that IE is Compatible with modern Web pages and technologies |
| 09:33.21 | Fisker- | inorite? |
| 09:33.33 | Fisker- | If anything that would be where they actually didn't put a checkmark |
| 09:34.12 | Fisker- | It has all the other stuff |
| 09:34.12 | Fisker- | besides for open source |
| 09:34.12 | Fisker- | But noone cares |
| 09:34.51 | nevcairiel | fast response time with IE is a myth too |
| 09:35.04 | Fisker- | naw |
| 09:35.46 | Fisker- | Time to get some non-shit drivers because Nvidia are lazy gits |
| 09:35.47 | Fisker- | fuck them |
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| 09:36.04 | Kalroth | Fisker is such a MS fanboi! |
| 09:38.25 | robotusch | and the pope is catholic and bears shit in the woods |
| 09:40.25 | thul | the norwegian (socialist) government has just gambled away 95.06700 billion U.S. dollars from the norwegian state fund. Their comment? "this is probably not the smartest move" |
| 09:40.36 | Fisker- | I think so, too. They want you to go to an https site, and I'm pretty sure that's not what blizz uses. Looks fishy to me, at least. |
| 09:40.38 | Fisker- | i lol'd so hard |
| 09:40.40 | Fisker- | naw Kalroth |
| 09:40.49 | Fisker- | anti-firefox zealot fanboi |
| 09:40.52 | Fisker- | for life |
| 09:40.56 | Kalroth | You even like SharePoint |
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| 09:41.07 | Fisker- | your mom likes sharepoint |
| 09:41.23 | Kalroth | Your mom is a sharepoint |
| 09:41.27 | robotusch | thul, well, considering you took our oil, good riddance! |
| 09:41.40 | Fisker- | your mom likes my mom |
| 09:41.47 | Kalroth | hot |
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| 09:41.52 | thul | "our oil" robotusch ? :-P NEVAH |
| 09:42.04 | thul | wants to make a film of Fisker-s and Kalroth's mom |
| 09:42.08 | robotusch | You know what I'm talking about! |
| 09:42.21 | robotusch | getting our minister of energy drunk & whatnot >:( |
| 09:43.12 | thul | i have no idea what country you are from :-P iceland? england? |
| 09:43.18 | robotusch | Denmark |
| 09:43.30 | robotusch | aka Fisker-lan |
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| 09:43.36 | robotusch | Fisker-land* |
| 09:43.55 | robotusch | although I must confess to having met Fisker- at a LAN |
| 09:44.54 | EthanCentaurai | you poor soul... how did you ever manage to cope? :P |
| 09:45.02 | thul | ah, denmark don't deserve any oil |
| 09:45.02 | thul | :-) |
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| 09:53.25 | Fisker- | giev mobile authenticator already ;_; |
| 09:54.05 | thul | imagines robotusch and Fisker- having lan-sex |
| 09:54.25 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 09:55.41 | thul | I wonder who would give and who would receive. |
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| 09:57.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Kody-] by ChanServ |
| 10:01.10 | thul | http://twitter.com/alysonhannigan :-D |
| 10:03.29 | nevcairiel | she must be terribly bored |
| 10:04.23 | thul | hey, I'm on twitter |
| 10:10.26 | thul | ok, does this image work for you guys: http://fc37.deviantart.com/fs44/i/2009/086/3/f/Springtime_in_Oslo_by_cainadamsson.jpg ? |
| 10:10.51 | nevcairiel | too bright, imho |
| 10:11.21 | Kalroth | no boobies |
| 10:11.46 | Kalroth | but yes, it looks somewhat overexposed |
| 10:12.24 | thul | it is correctly exposed (according to the histogram, and on a calibrated monitor :-P ), but i guess I should tone it done for the 99.97% that does not have calibrated monitors :-( |
| 10:13.06 | Kalroth | That's probably a good idea if you want 99.97% to view your image correctly :P |
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| 10:13.17 | Kalroth | And most LCD monitors are a little too bright, yeah |
| 10:13.42 | thul | that is something I never quite manage to decide for myself. should i edit my images for the average monitor, or should i edit it perfectly (for my calibrated monitor and for when to print). if I do the first, I have to do a re-edit to print, if I do the second, most people do not see my images correctly :-P |
| 10:13.47 | thul | THE CHOICES |
| 10:15.06 | Kalroth | Well put it this way; if you were the author of a website, would you optimize for only W3 standards or for the actual browsers (with all their flaws and bugs) |
| 10:15.06 | thul | http://fc26.deviantart.com/fs43/f/2009/084/b/8/Schrodinger__s_Neko_Girl_by_mjranum.jpg <- haha, I like that (nsfw) |
| 10:15.59 | thul | hmm, good point, but the people watching my images and giving me feedback are all photographers (on fredmiranda :-P ) with calibrated or semicalibrated monitors... I should almost try to run a dual-edit-setup. At least when it comes to exposure. |
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| 10:18.47 | thul | ach, now you got me ethinking :-( |
| 10:18.56 | Kalroth | Personally my monitors are calibrated by http://acdev.org/testimage1.jpg (almost!) |
| 10:19.16 | Kalroth | but before I did that, I couldn't see -any- numbers on the white side |
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| 10:20.52 | thul | haha, ouch :-P |
| 10:20.56 | Kalroth | actually you could do a similar test for your pictures |
| 10:21.01 | Hjalte | I can't see dark 1-2 and white 1 is very hard to see. |
| 10:21.14 | renchap | cant see white 1-2 |
| 10:21.21 | renchap | and black 1-2 |
| 10:21.28 | Kalroth | make 3 images with different calibrations; people should click the one that works best for them |
| 10:21.38 | renchap | on my other monitor, i cant see anything |
| 10:21.48 | renchap | except 7-8 black |
| 10:21.50 | Kalroth | but then you need 3 versionf of each image :p |
| 10:21.55 | thul | hmm, yeah. I guess I could do that, one slightly darker than calibrated, one calibrated, and one lighter one :-P |
| 10:21.58 | thul | haha, yeah |
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| 10:22.57 | Kalroth | Hjalte: Pretty much the same for me, I gave up trying to find a setting where I could see all 16 numbers easily |
| 10:23.24 | thul | hmm, I can see them all. that said: I just realized that I can have facebookchat on my adium, that rocks |
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| 10:25.52 | jnwhiteh | thul: it causes authentication issues |
| 10:26.00 | jnwhiteh | looks like facebook only lets you be logged into one session at a time ever |
| 10:26.01 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 10:26.01 | thul | hmm, how? |
| 10:26.09 | jnwhiteh | so you have to keep signing in on the web |
| 10:26.12 | jnwhiteh | and on adium |
| 10:26.14 | thul | hmm, works here |
| 10:26.14 | jnwhiteh | its obnoxious = |
| 10:26.19 | jnwhiteh | good, let me know if you have any issues with it |
| 10:26.25 | thul | will do |
| 10:26.26 | jnwhiteh | if not,i'll re-enable that account |
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| 10:43.32 | Fisker- | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:43.36 | Fisker- | it's gone |
| 10:43.40 | jnwhiteh | kk |
| 10:44.29 | Fisker- | new build of windows 7 soon :o |
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| 10:49.23 | sb|work | no you Fisker- |
| 10:50.35 | Fisker- | no you sb|work |
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| 11:11.29 | digmouse | 7068? |
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| 11:44.05 | Fisker- | yeah digmouse |
| 11:44.27 | digmouse | you fail, that's about 1 day ago |
| 11:44.46 | Fisker- | you fail |
| 11:44.49 | Fisker- | it's about 7 days ago |
| 11:44.52 | Fisker- | now sod off |
| 11:45.02 | digmouse | “（ |
| 11:45.08 | digmouse | :( |
| 11:45.08 | Fisker- | >:3 |
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| 11:47.11 | Fisker- | i love you |
| 11:48.46 | Fisker- | see you on the other side |
| 11:48.50 | Fisker- | kisses digmouse goodbye |
| 11:49.28 | Fisker- | btw |
| 11:49.34 | Fisker- | it's going to suck if my raid fails during install |
| 11:49.42 | digmouse | you fail |
| 11:50.01 | Fisker- | no you :( |
| 11:54.14 | Groktar | i hate commercials for progressive |
| 11:54.23 | Groktar | that pasty white bitch needs to die |
| 11:55.24 | winkiller | ahaha, Blizz email. "Worlf Warcarft"(sic) |
| 11:55.32 | winkiller | *World of Warcarft |
| 11:55.49 | Groktar | there must be a problem with your account |
| 11:56.02 | Groktar | pls confirm your username/password so they can rectify it |
| 11:56.13 | Groktar | good night |
| 11:56.21 | winkiller | nope |
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| 12:00.57 | stavmar | Is there a mod out there that identifies the dailies available to you? Perhaps it provides specific information on where to pick the dailies up? |
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| 12:04.37 | winkiller | not that I know of |
| 12:04.50 | winkiller | maybe the normal quest helper addons have something alike |
| 12:04.53 | winkiller | I'd check those |
| 12:05.03 | winkiller | monkeyquest, questhelper, carbonite |
| 12:10.35 | stavmar | winkiller: there must be something more specific...I do not think thos focus on the dailies themselves, I don't think. |
| 12:11.36 | winkiller | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dailies-quest-tracker.aspx <-? |
| 12:11.57 | winkiller | http://rom.curse.com/downloads/rom-addons/details/daily-quest-mod.aspx |
| 12:12.26 | winkiller | ok, rom is out :P |
| 12:12.42 | winkiller | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/SearchResults.aspx?q=daily :P |
| 12:13.47 | stavmar | what is rom? and thanks for that suggestion |
| 12:14.38 | nevcairiel | rom is another game |
| 12:16.58 | winkiller | RUnes of Magic probably |
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| 12:26.47 | stavmar | dailies quest tracker looks a little buggy |
| 12:26.59 | stavmar | has anyone tried it? |
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| 12:39.56 | Peoii | oye, loot discussions are always so fun |
| 12:41.24 | Dezzimal | I'd rather get beaten by an angry danish housewife with a wooden clog in hand |
| 12:41.30 | Dezzimal | than discuss loot systems |
| 12:41.50 | Peoii | rofl |
| 12:42.22 | Dezzimal | Unless you're incredibly lucky someone is always unhappy with it |
| 12:42.28 | Peoii | We run loot council, though lately it's been the discussion to have another system, and so it's spured the "well, if we switch, what to?" |
| 12:42.46 | Dezzimal | Recently we started "charging" people for raid drops they recieve in non-guild 25 man runs |
| 12:42.52 | Peoii | oye |
| 12:42.53 | Dezzimal | including archavon |
| 12:43.09 | Dezzimal | retroactively too |
| 12:43.11 | Peoii | I know a guild who does that until content is off their raiding roster. |
| 12:43.13 | Peoii | wow |
| 12:43.14 | Dezzimal | that pissed off more people than it pleased |
| 12:43.17 | Peoii | haha |
| 12:43.22 | Peoii | I can definitely imagine. |
| 12:43.28 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 12:43.34 | nevcairiel | you charge for items out of non-guild runs? |
| 12:43.39 | nevcairiel | what a messed up system is that |
| 12:44.04 | Dezzimal | We had one or two select people purposefully missing main raids |
| 12:44.11 | Dezzimal | so they could go with an alt run and scoop stuff |
| 12:44.25 | Dezzimal | free of charge |
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| 12:44.45 | nevcairiel | so? someone else got the items they wanted then, so more loot in guild, win-win? :) |
| 12:44.45 | Dezzimal | Well I misspeak, they probably didn't plot that entire situation out in their head |
| 12:44.48 | Dezzimal | but that is what happened |
| 12:45.16 | Dezzimal | We have people hoarding dkp for ulduar and the guys who bought stuff are unhappy with the way people are gaming the system |
| 12:45.18 | nevcairiel | when someone misses a raid and then runs a random raid to get the id used, isnt that good? |
| 12:45.30 | nevcairiel | See, thats why we start a new pool for ulduar |
| 12:45.32 | nevcairiel | no gaming :) |
| 12:46.11 | Dezzimal | you know thats not a bad idea |
| 12:46.49 | Peoii | Yar, when we were on dkp, we ran with a hardcap going forward. You could have a small advantage going in, but anything over X was simply reset moving from one tier level to another. |
| 12:46.52 | nevcairiel | If we wouldnt, people would skip over upgrades now just to have more points in ulduar |
| 12:46.54 | nevcairiel | just bad |
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| 12:48.23 | Dezzimal | I've been letting the 25 man neck slide every week in hopes a caster ring drops from kt :/ |
| 12:48.32 | Dezzimal | those two are the majority of what I can use yet |
| 12:48.42 | Dezzimal | its not getting sharded |
| 12:49.10 | nevcairiel | I still need that damn quest neck, someone always bids more :P |
| 12:49.24 | Dezzimal | I like bid systems :3 |
| 12:49.26 | Peoii | I only need 1 item from the current content... and it eludes me :/ |
| 12:49.39 | Dezzimal | we use fixed price |
| 12:49.40 | Peoii | Stupid Sarth2d Cloak... *grumble* |
| 12:49.55 | Dezzimal | with the option to buyout and pay ~30% more for priority |
| 12:50.10 | Dezzimal | its kinda dumb I think because its guaranteed to inflate over time |
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| 12:53.10 | Fisker- | BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 12:53.13 | BWMerlin | sylvanaar: has anything changed in prat recently that would prevent my from clicking on chat links and player names? |
| 12:57.03 | Fisker- | kicks digmouse in the face |
| 12:57.56 | Fisker- | bah |
| 12:57.57 | Fisker- | First bug |
| 12:57.58 | Fisker- | :E |
| 13:00.05 | Megalon | it's not a bug |
| 13:00.20 | Megalon | it's just all the hate against you concentrated in one feature |
| 13:03.19 | digmouse | Fisker why |
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| 13:33.02 | Jim-Bim | Are all wowace repositories currently down?! |
| 13:35.57 | sztanpet | yea |
| 13:36.25 | Jim-Bim | any ETA on a fix? |
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| 13:46.49 | Jim-Bim | ckknight? :P |
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| 13:55.37 | kagaro | svn down again? |
| 13:57.03 | Jim-Bim | yeah |
| 13:59.03 | sztanpet | theyr still sleeping |
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| 14:10.49 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Alive? |
| 14:10.55 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:11.01 | nevcairiel | zombie-ing around |
| 14:11.04 | Torhal | Gorram undead. |
| 14:11.18 | Torhal | Do you use luac on your Linux box? |
| 14:11.27 | nevcairiel | sometimes |
| 14:12.17 | Torhal | The pre-compiled version for Windows gave me issues because it expected numbers of format "3,5" instead of "3.5", but under Linux I'm getting: |
| 14:12.26 | Torhal | luac: Volumizer.lua:5: unexpected symbol near `...' |
| 14:12.39 | Torhal | Happens for #table as well |
| 14:12.42 | nevcairiel | whats that line say? |
| 14:12.54 | nevcairiel | My guess: your linux has Lua 5.0 |
| 14:12.57 | nevcairiel | but you code 5.1 |
| 14:13.40 | Torhal | Volumizer:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) the rest) |
| 14:13.57 | nevcairiel | well do luac -v |
| 14:13.59 | Torhal | Didn't think of that |
| 14:14.09 | Torhal | You're right. |
| 14:14.12 | Torhal | 5.0.3 |
| 14:14.14 | Torhal | Danke. |
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| 14:15.25 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 14:15.34 | Torhal | Ubuntu has 5.1, installs 5.0 by default |
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| 14:23.16 | Arrowmaster | i suggest grabbing wowlua and compiling that yourself |
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| 14:24.29 | yoshimo | sylvanaar , are you answering the tickets on your wowace-projects ? |
| 14:26.45 | Zhinjio | G'morning Torhal |
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| 14:35.28 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yola |
| 14:41.44 | Zhinjio | how's it going? |
| 14:42.35 | Torhal | I'd say decent, but I can't figure out how to get the fucking ALT key to not pop up the window manager menu under WoW when I hold down a mouse button. |
| 14:42.44 | Torhal | Goddamn COmpiz. |
| 14:42.51 | Torhal | How're you? |
| 14:43.54 | Zhinjio | fair. |
| 14:44.17 | Zhinjio | running dailies |
| 14:44.21 | Torhal | Cool |
| 14:44.31 | Fisker- | Looks like you could use a WHEELMAN |
| 14:44.37 | Fisker- | hint hint, wink wink |
| 14:44.54 | Torhal | I was about to add presets to Volumizer, then remembered being pissed last night that I can't alt-click shit in WoW |
| 14:44.57 | Zhinjio | have some friends in town, went out last night and lit things up pretty good, so I'm recovering a bit. |
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| 14:45.16 | Torhal | Fisker-: How the fuck is a wheelman going to fix the alt-key behavior? :P |
| 14:45.32 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Hangover dailies. Fun. :) |
| 14:45.44 | Fisker- | fu :( |
| 14:46.24 | Torhal | Heh |
| 14:46.52 | Fisker- | wheelman (The game) is kinda stupid though |
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| 14:47.06 | Fisker- | "Omg you can't kill innocent people!!!!!!!!!!!1111" |
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| 15:09.31 | nevcairiel | readign comments on curse.com always cheers me up |
| 15:09.36 | nevcairiel | apparently i ruined some guys life today |
| 15:09.39 | nevcairiel | all is well :) |
| 15:10.08 | Stanzilla | what did you do? |
| 15:10.16 | nevcairiel | dunno |
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| 15:10.51 | nevcairiel | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/bartender4.aspx#428058 |
| 15:11.10 | nevcairiel | hah he even joined curse for that comment |
| 15:15.59 | Kaelten | repos server locked up again |
| 15:16.03 | Kaelten | I wonder what the fuck is up with that |
| 15:16.09 | Kaelten | they're rebooting it now |
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| 15:17.25 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: I didn't know Bartender was a memory resident virus that persists even after being removed! |
| 15:17.31 | Stanzilla | Don't you people atleast test ONCE your probrams before you relish them? Its a good thing you only make add-ons for games and not cars instead. Can you imagine? You'd kill people... |
| 15:17.33 | Stanzilla | LOOOL |
| 15:19.47 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: when are you going to upgrade svn, 1.6.x is out now |
| 15:20.03 | SunTsu | .o0( I never new nevcairiel was that evil ) |
| 15:20.27 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Ever thought about asking google for employment? ;) |
| 15:20.43 | Kalroth | SunTsu: He can't, they got a "do no evil" motto |
| 15:20.51 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: after I get a chance to upgrade the os probably |
| 15:21.28 | SunTsu | Kalroth: I don't belive that anyway ;) |
| 15:25.11 | Stanzilla | how can I make BigWigs announce to /rw instead of /ra? |
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| 15:27.07 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: did i tell you before that i dont think round robin rDNS is something thats ment to be done even if it does 'work' |
| 15:27.32 | Kaelten | huh? It shouldn't be |
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| 15:27.49 | Arrowmaster | the ip repo is on has round robin rDNS |
| 15:29.00 | Kaelten | odd |
| 15:29.02 | Kaelten | shouldn't |
| 15:29.39 | nevcairiel | for ever forward entry you entered, the rDNS got an entry too |
| 15:29.41 | nevcairiel | causing this |
| 15:29.55 | SunTsu | Kalroth: While we're at it: F=<subscriptions@curseforge.com> rejected RCPT <wow@suntsu.org>: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 69.57.184.215 |
| 15:30.18 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.4.5-1-g540e8bf HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Scan the talents at PLAYER_ALIVE during login, so that the detection works properly. |
| 15:30.20 | SunTsu | uhm |
| 15:30.25 | SunTsu | Kalroth: sorry, meant Kaelten |
| 15:30.36 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 073.1 * 1.4.5-11-gf06a7b8 /: [forced -9 +11] Use the new PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE event to rescan the players talents. |
| 15:30.53 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Any idea what I need to do to make the ALT key in WoW NOT show the damn window-moving menu? Apparently setting it to the Meta key doesn't work, even though I've rebound the "Windows" key to be the Meta key. |
| 15:31.04 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 15:31.09 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.16 | nevcairiel | just configure compiz to not react on it anymore? |
| 15:31.22 | nevcairiel | i'm not a big compiz fan anyway |
| 15:31.43 | Torhal | No option for it. All it has is "Which key do you want for this", and NONE isn't an option. |
| 15:32.49 | Kaelten | sent an email off about both of those |
| 15:33.31 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1616 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:33.32 | SunTsu | Kaelten: thanks |
| 15:33.34 | Repo | - fixed "Clear All Waypoints" function (Ticket 459) |
| 15:33.37 | Repo | - added scan button key modifiers for visible frame |
| 15:33.45 | nevcairiel | did you ever narrow down whats causing the server lockups now? |
| 15:33.54 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: let me guess its the fault of the dns provider you guys use |
| 15:34.23 | Kaelten | reverse dns entries are generally handled by the datacenter |
| 15:34.37 | nevcairiel | indeed, you only get access yourself very rarely |
| 15:35.00 | Arrowmaster | their site says they give access to PTR record control |
| 15:35.06 | SunTsu | You normally don't need access, just a delegation |
| 15:35.32 | SunTsu | and yes, sub-/24 delegation is possible |
| 15:35.36 | Arrowmaster | and something called 'HTTP Redirection record support' which ive never heard of before |
| 15:35.39 | Torhal | Ok, got it. I unbound Meta from the Windows key, which re-bound Windows to Super. Now I have an option to set the window-mover to the super key. Yay. |
| 15:36.19 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: not yet, |
| 15:36.23 | nevcairiel | Linux lacks so much in usability |
| 15:36.26 | Kaelten | I've not had a chance to dig too much |
| 15:37.48 | nevcairiel | What i noticed today, before dying completly, the server was damn slow |
| 15:37.51 | nevcairiel | still responding |
| 15:37.52 | nevcairiel | btu slow |
| 15:38.13 | nevcairiel | like 5 minutes later it was gone |
| 15:38.13 | Kaelten | yeah, one theory is swap thrash |
| 15:38.25 | Kaelten | and eventual lockup due to memory depletion |
| 15:41.30 | Kaelten | which would explain that behavior you describe |
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| 15:42.13 | Kaelten | so I'm going to leave a shell open with top running to keep an eye on it. |
| 15:42.21 | Kaelten | I need to take a day out and set up mmonit on each server |
| 15:42.38 | nevcairiel | Since Repo dies too, i would guess your ssh conn will be dead as well |
| 15:42.44 | Kaelten | yep |
| 15:42.49 | nevcairiel | but maybe you're lucky to see it before it dies |
| 15:42.49 | Kaelten | but i'll see the last snapshot |
| 15:44.51 | SunTsu | Kaelten: wouldn't it better to quickly set up smth. like cacti and monitor the server via snmp? |
| 15:45.02 | SunTsu | Kaelten: disk usage, memory usage, processes, etc |
| 15:45.14 | Kaelten | SunTsu: mmonit is similar to cacti |
| 15:45.24 | Kaelten | not as complicated though |
| 15:45.27 | Kaelten | and not a php app |
| 15:45.57 | SunTsu | Kaelten: ah, don't know that. does it run on the server itself or on another machine? |
| 15:46.25 | Kaelten | well monit runs on each machine |
| 15:46.32 | Kaelten | m/monit monitors those instances |
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| 15:47.09 | Kaelten | http://mmonit.com/ |
| 15:47.56 | Arrowmaster | so monit is free open source but m/monit is not? |
| 15:47.57 | Repo | 10ammo-matique: 03Anyia3 * r3 / (3 files in 1 directory): * Added ammo switching logic. |
| 15:48.00 | Repo | * Added PvP/PvE ammo switching options. |
| 15:48.03 | Repo | * Hooked up the config to the engine. |
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| 15:48.54 | SunTsu | Kaelten: yeah, already found it, but it really does not appeal to me, because I like things to be open, which it does not seem to be. And I like using existing standards, but that's all just a matter of taste |
| 15:52.46 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: yep |
| 15:57.29 | Zhinjio | G'morning Kaelten |
| 15:57.33 | Kaelten | heya zhin |
| 16:02.07 | Fisker- | kisses Kaelten |
| 16:04.34 | Kaelten | ~lart Fisker- |
| 16:04.34 | purl | blasts Fisker- to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
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| 16:05.41 | Hjalte | Does anyone have an awesome font they use for their scrolling combat text addon? I'm tired of mine :( |
| 16:05.55 | Hjalte | I've got Shared Media already |
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| 16:16.53 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 16:16.54 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give ESL|2GD a big kiss on the ear |
| 16:16.57 | Fisker- | bah |
| 16:17.04 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 16:17.05 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Civrock a big kiss on the lips |
| 16:17.08 | Fisker- | grr |
| 16:18.46 | Civrock | Ew. |
| 16:20.23 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 16:20.24 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Arrowmaster a big kiss on the ear |
| 16:20.37 | Arrowmaster | eww |
| 16:22.29 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 16:22.30 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give waallen a big kiss on the lips |
| 16:26.17 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 16:26.18 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give deQer a big kiss on the lips |
| 16:26.21 | Fisker- | bah |
| 16:26.26 | Fisker- | at this rate i'll never get Kaelten |
| 16:26.35 | SunTsu | Fisker-: You really spread your love today |
| 16:30.13 | Fisker- | i'll spread your legs |
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| 16:36.34 | SunTsu | Fisker-: Yeah, do so, would be fun. Strangulating trolls is a real nice hobby ;) |
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| 17:14.37 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro * r662 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 17:14.40 | Repo | Gathermate: updated get facing calls for new ptr patch. PTR now returns valid data all the time and in radians. |
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| 17:26.44 | BWMerlin | is ag_pimpster are unit frame addon or is it only used to customise ag_unit frames beyond what options come with it out of the box? |
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| 17:27.17 | nevcairiel | its only a plugin to agUF |
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| 17:28.29 | BWMerlin | that is what i wanted to know |
| 17:28.38 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: i think the non-ssh Git daemon is broken again, it appears ckk always manually started it after server reboot |
| 17:28.54 | ckknight | try now? |
| 17:29.25 | Fisker- | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:29.31 | ckknight | noes |
| 17:29.33 | nevcairiel | works |
| 17:29.35 | nevcairiel | thanks |
| 17:30.55 | Kaelten | grumbles about wx and lack of minization support.... |
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| 17:32.16 | Chaoslux | git wasnt working a minute ago? |
| 17:35.03 | Kaelten | Chaoslux: the non-ssh deamon was offline |
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| 17:37.45 | nevcairiel | You should put that one in an init script =) |
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| 17:40.22 | ckknight | does race for death knight matter that much? |
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| 17:47.16 | Fisker- | stares |
| 17:47.47 | Lukian | draenei for 1% hit ftw :p |
| 17:48.06 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 17:48.15 | Fisker- | But it doesn't matter much if you got a draenei anyways |
| 17:48.19 | Fisker- | i'd go with humans personally |
| 17:48.32 | Fisker- | They also got sword and mace spec i believe |
| 17:48.40 | Fisker- | which can be handy |
| 17:53.42 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03kagaro * r322 kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: added mod funtion to register new art |
| 17:53.53 | Megalon | wtb raidbuffracial for horde :c |
| 17:54.49 | Fisker- | and giev it to belfs |
| 17:57.07 | Chaoslux | Humans have the most OP racial in the game and i <3 it |
| 17:57.28 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 17:58.12 | Pneumatus | nelf for dodge |
| 17:58.22 | sb|work | bahhh some people in my guild are totally retarded :o |
| 17:58.50 | sb|work | nev: open discussion of legendary thingie distribution was a bad idea :p |
| 17:59.09 | nevcairiel | so what now? =P |
| 17:59.21 | kagaro | repo Status: Failed |
| 17:59.23 | Chaoslux | I like only having to kill 3800 Syndicates instead of having 4200 syndicates to kill for Ravenholdt |
| 17:59.35 | nevcairiel | @ping |
| 17:59.36 | Repo | pong |
| 17:59.41 | sb|work | QQ why not giving it outlike any other item |
| 18:01.08 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 8b9d881 Modules/VisualHeal/VisualHeal.lua: [+1 commit] bugfix when a unit is getting more than 100% healing at any one time. |
| 18:01.38 | nevcairiel | As it looks now (and nothing changes), 3 people will roll for the item and pay all their dkp |
| 18:01.41 | nevcairiel | when the first drops |
| 18:01.41 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 18:01.55 | sb|work | hehe |
| 18:01.57 | nevcairiel | when we do kill the first hardmode |
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| 18:02.05 | nevcairiel | and it actually drops |
| 18:02.49 | sb|work | well i cant see how "give it to the guy with the best loot priority without looking at his attendance / EP" makes any sense for a item thats worth ~nothing until you have 40 pieces + yogg hardmode :o |
| 18:03.00 | nevcairiel | 30! |
| 18:03.07 | sb|work | so i'm not sure if they really got what this is about |
| 18:03.19 | sb|work | its no glaive that you can loot and use :o |
| 18:03.45 | nevcairiel | its a long time investment |
| 18:03.49 | sb|work | yes... |
| 18:04.01 | nevcairiel | is it sure that you need yoggy hardmode? |
| 18:04.04 | nevcairiel | or only yoggy? |
| 18:04.06 | sb|work | so if someone cant be on any raid with hardmode kills |
| 18:04.10 | sb|work | its kinda useless for him :o |
| 18:04.18 | sb|work | or better be given to someone else |
| 18:04.21 | sb|work | *sigh* |
| 18:04.28 | sb|work | i dont want to have 3 people with 10 pieces ;) |
| 18:05.25 | nevcairiel | bah, why is wowhead always on maintenance when i want to cehck something |
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| 18:09.02 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03kagaro * r323 kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: fixed typo in register call |
| 18:09.35 | nevcairiel | hm bah |
| 18:09.38 | nevcairiel | its actually confirmed |
| 18:09.41 | nevcairiel | the quest says it |
| 18:09.45 | nevcairiel | yoggy hardmode |
| 18:09.46 | kagaro | ckknight: packager is dead |
| 18:10.15 | Axodious | ckk you think you could do ticket 5? <3 |
| 18:10.22 | Axodious | for pb4 |
| 18:10.33 | ckknight | @ticket pitbull4 5 |
| 18:10.34 | nevcairiel | kagaro: i unlocked it |
| 18:10.34 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/tickets/5 - Ability to set the default font size. Reported by: sztanpet. Type: Enhancement. Updated: 3 hours ago. Milestone: Beta. Status: Accepted. Priority: Medium. Assignee: ckknight. Votes: +21. Comments: 2 |
| 18:10.48 | nevcairiel | kagaro: its running now |
| 18:10.50 | kagaro | nevcairiel: thanks |
| 18:11.14 | ckknight | thanks, nevcairiel |
| 18:11.21 | nevcairiel | ckknight: |
| 18:11.22 | ckknight | Axodious: I'm working on DK runes |
| 18:11.23 | nevcairiel | svn: Working copy '/repos/packaging/svn-local-checkout/wow/ace3/mainline' locked svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details |
| 18:11.30 | nevcairiel | something is broken on the local checkouts again |
| 18:11.34 | ckknight | k... |
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| 18:11.58 | ckknight | I ran svn cleanup |
| 18:12.28 | Axodious | k np |
| 18:12.58 | nevcairiel | svn is such a bitch at those |
| 18:13.11 | nevcairiel | the damn WC format is so terrible |
| 18:14.02 | ckknight | svn sucks |
| 18:14.04 | ckknight | <.< |
| 18:14.05 | ckknight | >.> |
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| 18:15.04 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03kagaro 04v1.27 * r324 : Tagging as v1.27 |
| 18:15.07 | Repo | Exposed AddAsset for texture packs to register artwork. |
| 18:18.54 | sb|work | nevcairiel: yup... |
| 18:19.04 | sylvanaar | yoshimo yes I am. i just did a bunch the other day |
| 18:19.23 | nevcairiel | sb|work: i think i'm just shooting for another one and not the first, then =p |
| 18:19.29 | nevcairiel | yoggy hardmode will be a while.. |
| 18:19.34 | sb|work | hehe yes |
| 18:19.39 | sb|work | but 30/40 shards will also be a while |
| 18:19.47 | sb|work | depends on droprate |
| 18:20.00 | nevcairiel | depends how many hardmdoes you manage pretty fast |
| 18:20.05 | ckknight | what DK spec will provide me the most "fun"? |
| 18:20.07 | sb|work | yup |
| 18:20.13 | nevcairiel | ckknight: unholy, imho |
| 18:20.13 | sb|work | but thats not the point :o |
| 18:20.22 | sylvanaar | all dk's are faceroll spec |
| 18:21.32 | sb|work | tanking is like "press every button you can find" - worked very well in 5s instances for me :o |
| 18:21.39 | sb|work | so yes.. its all faceroll :P |
| 18:22.13 | yoshimo | sylvanaar, would be great if you had a look at the libfail tickets, they all have "new"-status |
| 18:23.20 | sylvanaar | oh, well- thats pretty difficult to test since im not raiding atm |
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| 18:25.35 | sylvanaar | that project is more about trying to encourage authors to contribute to a common resource, than anything else. |
| 18:26.27 | yoshimo | if we do the testing and supply wowcombatlog-examples, would you enhance the lib? |
| 18:27.29 | sylvanaar | possibly - but it will have to be after the project i have going on at work, which is eating up all my time |
| 18:28.18 | sylvanaar | anyone else is welcome to enhance it...thats why i made it |
| 18:29.37 | yoshimo | job and money first of course ;) |
| 18:29.58 | sylvanaar | im really hating my job right now |
| 18:30.23 | sylvanaar | not to mention that this project is java 1.4, which has to be the biggest piece of crap ever made |
| 18:30.43 | sb|work | hmm.. 90% of our software is java 1.4 :o |
| 18:31.05 | sb|work | because all those strange clients have 1.4 :/ |
| 18:31.10 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 18:31.15 | nevcairiel | 1.4 was still uber-crap |
| 18:31.22 | sb|work | i know... |
| 18:31.27 | nevcairiel | back in the time when i really hated java |
| 18:31.35 | nevcairiel | java5 made it usuable, and 6 is even nice |
| 18:31.46 | Pneumatus | coding java without generics would make me want to slash my wrists |
| 18:31.54 | sb|work | i like java - even 1.4 is useable :o |
| 18:31.59 | sylvanaar | it takes so much code to do event the simplest of things |
| 18:31.59 | sb|work | Pneumatus: yes.. thats annoying :( |
| 18:32.22 | sylvanaar | miles and miles of boilerplate |
| 18:33.09 | sylvanaar | generics would have helped |
| 18:33.53 | nevcairiel | The java implementation of generics is a bit weird, though. C++ templates are alot easier to use, imho |
| 18:35.50 | sylvanaar | java is a lifeless language, i prefer c#/.net, MS is actively improving it, its so vastly different to java now |
| 18:36.29 | sylvanaar | LINQ being a great example |
| 18:36.45 | Vonhinten | I love c# and the direction .net is taking |
| 18:36.52 | Vonhinten | WPF, linq, etc |
| 18:37.32 | sylvanaar | LINQ and now Dynamic typing in 4.0 |
| 18:37.32 | ckknight | um, Ruby ftw? |
| 18:37.32 | ckknight | :P |
| 18:38.04 | nevcairiel | Ruby is a scripting language |
| 18:38.04 | renchap | ckknight: true. |
| 18:38.18 | nevcairiel | There are just times where you need a real language |
| 18:38.20 | ckknight | Ruby can be used as a general-purpose programming language |
| 18:38.23 | ckknight | how is it not real? |
| 18:38.33 | ckknight | if you need the java libraries, JRuby is great |
| 18:38.37 | ckknight | IronRuby is getting there for .NET |
| 18:38.45 | ckknight | MacRuby is looking really sweet for Cocoa development |
| 18:39.01 | sylvanaar | thats like saying you should write Office 2010 using python |
| 18:39.08 | kagaro | RubyCocoa is the shit ckknight |
| 18:39.17 | Kaelten | my personal wish is that there was cocoa on windows |
| 18:39.19 | ckknight | I wouldn't write Office 2010 in Java or .NET :P |
| 18:39.23 | ckknight | Kaelten: that'd be sweet. |
| 18:39.36 | kagaro | cocoa on windows would be nice |
| 18:39.36 | ckknight | c'mon Curse Client in Cocoa |
| 18:39.38 | Kaelten | then objective-c could be a cross plat language, and that'd be sweet |
| 18:39.54 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: they should just use a "common" language on macs <.< |
| 18:39.55 | kagaro | objective-c is cross platform .. cocoa libraries arent |
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| 18:40.04 | nevcairiel | and not obj-c |
| 18:40.13 | ckknight | why, nevcairiel? |
| 18:40.15 | Kaelten | kagaro: yeah, and the majority of obj-c's nicities come from using cocoa |
| 18:40.41 | kagaro | Kaelten: a lot for sure, you can get some of it on linux with the gnuNextStep stuff |
| 18:40.41 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: I actually like obj-c as a language, ;) |
| 18:40.48 | sylvanaar | why |
| 18:40.50 | Kaelten | kagaro: true |
| 18:41.00 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: it's every bit as valid as c# is |
| 18:41.01 | nevcairiel | ckknight: if the question is if to change all otehr systems to obj-c, or just macs to say c++ (what everyone else uses), its easier to just change macs |
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| 18:41.12 | ckknight | C++ isn't a great language. |
| 18:41.14 | ckknight | it's rife with issues |
| 18:41.18 | ckknight | issues that Obj-C does not have |
| 18:41.24 | kagaro | nevcairiel: if you want you can code c++ on os/x all day |
| 18:41.24 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: c++ is a horrible language, but you can code on mac just fine with it |
| 18:41.26 | nevcairiel | I bet it has other issues |
| 18:41.36 | nevcairiel | there is no perfect language |
| 18:41.42 | ckknight | LISP |
| 18:41.42 | ckknight | :P |
| 18:41.44 | ckknight | <.< |
| 18:41.45 | ckknight | >.> |
| 18:41.49 | sylvanaar | does obj-c have a standards body |
| 18:41.49 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: obj-c is a lot more comparable to C# than it is to c++ honestly |
| 18:41.52 | ckknight | my other car is a cdr |
| 18:41.52 | kagaro | i really enjoy objective-c |
| 18:42.14 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: I know there is a gnu version of it. but I think it's pretty much apple says so type of thing |
| 18:42.15 | ckknight | I'm still a ruby fanboi. MacRuby is really nice in that each Ruby class you make creates an Obj-C class. |
| 18:42.17 | sylvanaar | does it get new revisions |
| 18:42.32 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: yes, got a language update with 10.5 |
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| 18:42.42 | kagaro | for ui creation cocoa is soooo easy |
| 18:42.49 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: and there constantly updating the sdk |
| 18:42.50 | nevcairiel | But to our original argument, for say "applications", i prefer a language with type safety and other fun features that scripting languages usualy don't offer |
| 18:43.04 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: obj-c is for you then :D |
| 18:43.27 | nevcairiel | so does java, c++ and c#, thats not the point =P |
| 18:44.10 | Vonhinten | reflection > your mom |
| 18:44.12 | Kaelten | yeah I'm not sure about using ruby for desktop apps |
| 18:44.13 | Fisker- | enrages |
| 18:44.20 | Kaelten | and python is only valid for it when useing a toolkit like qT |
| 18:44.22 | Kaelten | qt |
| 18:44.27 | kagaro | Kaelten: lols I used it for that |
| 18:44.40 | Kaelten | kagaro: hehe |
| 18:44.53 | kagaro | interface builder to build the application ui, and rubycoca for event handling |
| 18:45.08 | ckknight | imo, type safety isn't all that important if you have proper testing. |
| 18:45.11 | kagaro | I wrote a mp4 tagger |
| 18:45.16 | Kaelten | kagaro: hehe, well. rubycocoa is so close to obj-c you're not really using obj-c |
| 18:45.24 | Kaelten | er |
| 18:45.28 | Kaelten | really using obj-c :P |
| 18:45.42 | kagaro | i mixed in obj-c for some for thread handling |
| 18:46.04 | kagaro | its really sweet to be able to write a class in obj-c and use it in rubycocoa and vise versa |
| 18:46.20 | Kaelten | yeah, indeed |
| 18:46.38 | Kaelten | they're both smalltalk based, so it's no real surpise they work so well togather :P |
| 18:46.42 | kagaro | since ruby threading was not so great i wrote some NSTask code and directly integrated it |
| 18:47.17 | kagaro | well in my use case getting it to update a progress bar back on the ui |
| 18:48.03 | sylvanaar | i dont know alot about how its implemented, how does it compare to COM |
| 18:48.08 | kagaro | maybe i should wrap my ruby code i used for dbc spelunking with cocoa to give a ui for it |
| 18:48.55 | sylvanaar | or maybe managed-C |
| 18:51.08 | nevcairiel | I should get more into C#, i've only used it briefly |
| 18:51.22 | nevcairiel | but i need a project first |
| 18:52.51 | sylvanaar | its a luxury language |
| 18:52.59 | sylvanaar | productivity is so high |
| 18:53.46 | sylvanaar | and LINQ is really amazing |
| 18:54.06 | ckknight | LINQ is very cool |
| 18:55.10 | sylvanaar | im in the same place - i have been trying to come up with a project so i can do .net programming |
| 18:55.27 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:55.54 | Kaelten | I'm not sure I like .net, it seems like there design patterns lead you to writting more code |
| 18:56.02 | sylvanaar | i sorta did a small one to get data from saved variables files last night |
| 18:56.09 | Kaelten | I'm really likeing some of the patterns in cocoa, like delegates |
| 18:56.20 | sylvanaar | really? cause .net has delegates |
| 18:56.28 | sylvanaar | is a language keyword |
| 18:56.34 | ckknight | sylvanaar: it's a different thing, afaik |
| 18:56.36 | sb|work | gnaa fix wowhead already :( |
| 18:56.42 | sylvanaar | whats the diff? |
| 18:57.05 | ckknight | sylvanaar: Kaelten's referring to UI widget delegation, not function delegation |
| 18:57.42 | sylvanaar | guess i dont know what that means at the language level |
| 18:58.46 | Vonhinten | .net has anonymous delegates now too |
| 18:59.01 | sylvanaar | are you talking about something like multiple dispatch? |
| 19:03.42 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: it's a design pattern that prevents you from having to subclass or register call backs, use events etc |
| 19:04.02 | Kaelten | instead of subclassing a button, you make an instance of a button and tell it that this object is your delegate |
| 19:04.10 | Kaelten | and then the delegate handles all of the events for that button |
| 19:04.29 | Kaelten | also can handle some logic for it as well |
| 19:04.51 | sylvanaar | i see |
| 19:04.53 | Kaelten | i'm not even sure what delegates are in c# |
| 19:05.05 | sylvanaar | they are function objects |
| 19:05.05 | Kaelten | yeah it sounds kinda odd, but after using it a little, I really like it |
| 19:05.17 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: hrm, so kinda like a functor or something? |
| 19:05.23 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 19:06.25 | Kaelten | heh |
| 19:06.45 | sylvanaar | i think that delegates sound like double dispatch |
| 19:06.58 | Kaelten | double dispatch? |
| 19:07.07 | Kaelten | that has a connotation of more than one person getting a notification |
| 19:07.30 | nevcairiel | hands design pattern books all around |
| 19:07.36 | sylvanaar | its about dispatching calls based on the types of the caller and the called |
| 19:08.01 | Kaelten | hrm not quite delegates then |
| 19:08.07 | Kaelten | there is no type restrictions |
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| 19:17.22 | Kaelten | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/289359/Curse%20Client-3.0.0.2.0.dmg |
| 19:17.27 | Kaelten | need testers please ^ |
| 19:17.53 | kagaro | im onit |
| 19:18.01 | nevcairiel | gimme a macbook and i will |
| 19:18.08 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: lol |
| 19:18.17 | Kaelten | kagaro: thanks man :) |
| 19:18.21 | nevcairiel | I wonder how long i need to save amazon gift tickets from wowace for a macbook |
| 19:18.39 | Kaelten | good question, it really depends on how well premium does |
| 19:18.55 | Kaelten | the more premium subs we have the more money will be put into the rewards program |
| 19:19.09 | Kaelten | since past the first month it's a direct corrolation |
| 19:19.37 | kagaro | hte menu selection is still sticking when highlighting multiple addons |
| 19:20.10 | Kaelten | kagaro: yeah, that's a low level issue with wx, we targeted mainly crash bugs, and integration with osx |
| 19:20.31 | Pneumatus | premium coming soon then? :P |
| 19:20.41 | kagaro | the update addons preference seems to be not working |
| 19:20.46 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: sooner than ever before ;) |
| 19:20.52 | kagaro | its always updating them even after unchecking auto update |
| 19:20.53 | Kaelten | kagaro: which? |
| 19:21.10 | Pneumatus | netcurse implied it was only a week or two away some months ago :P |
| 19:21.13 | Kaelten | talking aobut auto update? |
| 19:21.16 | kagaro | preferences about auto updating your mods |
| 19:21.22 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: that implication may still be valid ;) |
| 19:21.36 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: he is an evil french man, don't believe a thing he says |
| 19:21.46 | kagaro | hold on Kaelten |
| 19:21.53 | Kaelten | kagaro: did you remember to hit save? |
| 19:21.58 | kagaro | yeah i did |
| 19:22.08 | Kaelten | I just tested it and it worked for me :s |
| 19:22.09 | kagaro | it keeps updating the same set of addons every time i launch |
| 19:22.22 | Pneumatus | Kaelten: is the only holdup now the mac client? |
| 19:22.31 | sylvanaar | mine keeps trying to update my working copy of prat every 30 min or so |
| 19:22.33 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: largely |
| 19:22.51 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: yeah I want to fix it so the check happens a lot earlier than it does now. |
| 19:23.00 | Kaelten | it's stupid that it doesn't check until it tries to overwrite the files |
| 19:23.33 | kagaro | should it really be a blank window after doing updates? |
| 19:23.40 | Kaelten | er... |
| 19:23.44 | Kaelten | youg ot the blank window bug? |
| 19:23.53 | Kaelten | when you hit refresh does it do anything? |
| 19:23.57 | kagaro | it updated now the 'Your Addons' tab is blank |
| 19:24.00 | kagaro | nope |
| 19:24.03 | Kaelten | shit |
| 19:24.05 | Kaelten | fucking a |
| 19:24.14 | Kaelten | db misuse most likely |
| 19:24.19 | Kaelten | give me your CurseClient.log file |
| 19:24.19 | kagaro | it does say 'All addons are up to date' |
| 19:24.21 | Kaelten | pelase |
| 19:24.23 | Kaelten | please* |
| 19:24.32 | kagaro | Kaelten: where do you write it |
| 19:24.37 | Kaelten | ~/.Curse Client |
| 19:25.09 | Stanzilla | btw Kaelten, why are there two "Save" buttons in the Manage Games tab? |
| 19:25.13 | nevcairiel | ew a folder with a space in it |
| 19:25.29 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: nothing wrong with that :P |
| 19:25.33 | sylvanaar | press tab |
| 19:25.48 | nevcairiel | i try to avoid it whenever possible |
| 19:26.01 | sylvanaar | well, you can Curse.Client |
| 19:26.07 | nevcairiel | CurseClient imho |
| 19:26.38 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: it's pretty common on mac actually |
| 19:26.38 | sylvanaar | cc |
| 19:26.46 | nevcairiel | macs are just weird |
| 19:26.59 | Kaelten | not really |
| 19:27.03 | Kaelten | it's pretty common on windows too |
| 19:27.09 | kagaro | yeah my changes are not being saved, the popup saves it saved but when i restart they are bak to what they were |
| 19:27.12 | nevcairiel | windows doesnt use CLI |
| 19:27.19 | sylvanaar | right |
| 19:27.29 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: neither does your avg mac user |
| 19:27.31 | nevcairiel | well i suppose the average mac person doesnt either |
| 19:27.39 | Kaelten | kagaro: yeah, the db is hosed right now you need to restart your client |
| 19:27.54 | sylvanaar | your average user in general |
| 19:28.03 | kagaro | it does it everytime i restart the client Kaelten |
| 19:28.06 | nevcairiel | the average user in general doesnt use linux, heh |
| 19:28.11 | sylvanaar | thats right |
| 19:28.13 | Kaelten | everytime? |
| 19:28.18 | kagaro | yes |
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| 19:28.27 | kagaro | where is the pref fils ill go nuke them |
| 19:28.44 | Kaelten | kagaro: clear that file |
| 19:28.46 | Kaelten | restart the client |
| 19:28.54 | Kaelten | and if it does it again pass it back to me |
| 19:29.09 | Kaelten | it's not a pref issue from what your log file tells me |
| 19:29.21 | Kaelten | Mon Mar 23 16:41:05 2009> [SQLiteDB] Query failed..select value from setting where name='packagepref' |
| 19:29.21 | Kaelten | Mon Mar 23 16:41:05 2009> [SQLiteDB] library routine called out of sequence |
| 19:29.27 | sylvanaar | i remember for about 12 years all my pcs were apple and i was a mac fanboi, then i got a pc, now mac seems wierd |
| 19:30.18 | sylvanaar | im buying a new pc - i want to put osx on my old one |
| 19:30.22 | Kaelten | yeah looking up it looks like you get that error early in execution |
| 19:30.34 | kagaro | i did at 1 point have the 2.0 mac client installed |
| 19:30.50 | sylvanaar | i have osx on a vm - but its not usable |
| 19:31.07 | Kaelten | kagaro: any feedback on the new images? |
| 19:31.16 | kagaro | images look good |
| 19:32.09 | Kaelten | wipe your .Curse Client directory, restart the client |
| 19:32.14 | Kaelten | see if it keeps happening |
| 19:32.15 | kagaro | ok looks bette rnow |
| 19:32.34 | kagaro | i nuked everything under that dr , reconfigured and now its a lot mroe stable |
| 19:32.39 | kagaro | no more blank windows |
| 19:33.37 | kagaro | what is the icon next to some of the addons |
| 19:33.55 | kagaro | ohh marking recently updated |
| 19:34.01 | kagaro | you might wana change that one |
| 19:34.17 | kagaro | its not very clear what its there for |
| 19:34.35 | kagaro | Kaelten: no sorting? |
| 19:34.45 | Kaelten | the damn things aren't clickable |
| 19:34.56 | Kaelten | thats on my list to hit wx until it tells me why |
| 19:35.06 | kagaro | ok i just crashed it |
| 19:35.31 | Kaelten | same symptons? |
| 19:35.34 | kagaro | no |
| 19:35.42 | kagaro | i was trying the find addon section |
| 19:35.42 | Kaelten | oh? real crash? |
| 19:35.49 | kagaro | the input box was disabled |
| 19:35.53 | kagaro | i hit refresh |
| 19:36.03 | kagaro | tried to enter the input box it crashdumped |
| 19:36.18 | Kaelten | pass me the crash dump? |
| 19:36.27 | kagaro | yeah i can |
| 19:36.37 | kagaro | ViewNameSort |
| 19:36.39 | Kaelten | i love that they're normally pretty useful on mac |
| 19:36.53 | Kaelten | hrm, where you downloading the list at the time? |
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| 19:37.59 | kagaro | when i hit refresh button |
| 19:38.23 | kagaro | yeah reliably can crash it |
| 19:38.33 | Kaelten | wtf |
| 19:38.38 | kagaro | open the client, click teh find addon tab, click refresh |
| 19:39.22 | Kaelten | hrm managed to find another crash too |
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| 20:23.26 | Vonhinten | Kaelten, your description of delegates is one of the ways .net delegates are used. You instantiate a button, and then add delegate event handlers to it. It's not a whole object though, you basically subscribe to the events you care about |
| 20:24.28 | Vonhinten | button.Click += delegate( args here ) { function contents }; |
| 20:24.29 | Vonhinten | for instance |
| 20:24.32 | Kaelten | Vonhinten, yeah, you don't have define functions to answer all of the possible delegates. |
| 20:25.15 | Kaelten | [button setDelegate: [[buttonDelegate alloc] init]]; for me |
| 20:25.26 | Kaelten | and then just add member functions to the delegate |
| 20:27.26 | Vonhinten | One of the other cool things you can do now is use lamba expressions in place of delegates |
| 20:27.43 | Kaelten | yeah not sure what obj-c has for anon functions |
| 20:29.13 | nevcairiel | obj-c syntax is so weird |
| 20:29.23 | ckknight | nevcairiel: it's because it's smalltalk-like |
| 20:29.34 | nevcairiel | that doesn't make it any less weird |
| 20:29.36 | nevcairiel | imho. |
| 20:29.43 | ckknight | because you're not used to it |
| 20:29.48 | nevcairiel | I never liked the actual smalltalk syntax |
| 20:29.51 | ckknight | Obj-C currently doesn't have anonymous functions, but that might go in in Objective C 3.0 |
| 20:29.54 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: yeah, the message syntax is the oddest bit |
| 20:32.21 | Kaelten | once you get used to it's not that bad |
| 20:32.28 | Kaelten | soem things are kinda nice |
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| 22:32.10 | selckin | SPELL_DAMAGE,0x00000000023F99B1,"Kishin",0x514,0xF1300059A80001B4,"Veras Darkshadow",0xa48,49909,"Icy Touch",0x10,1190,0,16,-198,0,0,nil,nil,nil |
| 22:32.13 | selckin | negative resisted value? wtf? |
| 22:32.33 | ckknight | lulz |
| 22:32.52 | Pneumatus | isnt that overkill? |
| 22:33.05 | selckin | no 1190 damage, 0 overkill, -198 resisted |
| 22:33.50 | selckin | err |
| 22:34.23 | selckin | yeah thats right |
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| 22:34.36 | selckin | 16 is spellschool |
| 22:35.13 | selckin | so this is a wow bug right? |
| 22:40.47 | selckin | now i have to fiddle negatives in my lexer /cry |
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| 22:43.00 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: so got join/leave tracking in there |
| 22:43.13 | nevcairiel | nice |
| 22:51.38 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/export-example.xml example with the join/leave events and http://eongames.com/tmp/export-example-2.xml actual raid exported |
| 22:52.00 | Arrowmaster | selckin: there have always been negative resists |
| 22:52.23 | selckin | Arrowmaster: what do they mean then? |
| 22:52.32 | Arrowmaster | they mean extra damage |
| 22:52.45 | selckin | wasn't that removed back in molten core days :\ |
| 22:52.48 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:53.02 | Arrowmaster | only that debuffs could put them negative |
| 22:53.27 | Arrowmaster | the domo healer adds always had negative resists before debuffs |
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| 22:54.05 | selckin | why are so extremely rare then? i just parsed like 4gb or logs and have about 2 negatives |
| 22:54.08 | Arrowmaster | afaik the actual damage done should be given but the -198 should just be telling you that it did 198 extra damage |
| 22:54.29 | Arrowmaster | because the mob has to specificly have a negative resistance level naturally |
| 22:54.33 | Arrowmaster | which isnt common |
| 22:55.12 | Aeyan | I was leveling a mage the other day and hit one of the tar beasts in Un'goro with a fires spell and got a negative resist |
| 22:55.16 | Aeyan | I had to look twice, hehe |
| 22:55.26 | Aeyan | Think the combat log called it vulnerability damage |
| 22:55.37 | selckin | Arrowmaster: thanks for the info, do you know anywhere i could verify if it's included in the damage? |
| 22:56.13 | Arrowmaster | yes roll a warlock, immolate has a fixed inital damage, theres no range on it |
| 22:56.43 | Arrowmaster | level up to 50 or so and goto ungoro for tar beasts and random things nearby |
| 22:56.43 | Aeyan | Well, it's only my observation, but I can tell you yes it is included in the damage |
| 22:57.03 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: any opinion on the format as such? |
| 22:57.12 | selckin | good enough i guess, gonna edit the wiki with that info :\ |
| 22:57.27 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: thats your new format? |
| 22:58.10 | Arrowmaster | actually isnt all of those resist/overkill/overheal things included in the value given? its just the combatlog display that does things like remove the overkill from the damage done to show how much damage you did that killed it |
| 22:59.48 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: so every join gets a <start> and every leave a <end>? |
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| 23:01.28 | selckin | i'd create diffrend elements for item info and who got it :\ |
| 23:01.43 | NeoTron | every join/end pair will have a <period><start></start><end></end></period> |
| 23:01.57 | Arrowmaster | why does that remind me of ctrt xml |
| 23:02.22 | NeoTron | it's not really like the ctrt format (less duplicated data) but overall the data exported is the same |
| 23:02.32 | nevcairiel | I've never really looked at the ctrt export format |
| 23:02.36 | Arrowmaster | and your encoding is in ISO-8859-1 when you probably should be using UTF-8 |
| 23:02.46 | Arrowmaster | ctrt format doesnt have duplicated data |
| 23:02.56 | NeoTron | ctrt format is horrid. nuff said |
| 23:02.58 | Arrowmaster | depending on what your reference is that is |
| 23:03.06 | Nayala | Got another .pkgmeta question. Is there a way to get it to always embed certain externals even in the no-libs version when using the new url: and tag: fields or do I have to go back to manually naming SVN tags? |
| 23:03.36 | Nayala | (All my 2009-03-27 no lib packages ended up empty again.) |
| 23:03.43 | Arrowmaster | Nayala: no, no-lib zips will never have externals |
| 23:03.50 | nevcairiel | You cannot always-embed anything thats hosted on wowace or curseforge. |
| 23:04.01 | nevcairiel | Only stuff not on CF or WoWAce will always be in |
| 23:04.06 | nevcairiel | Like, LibDataBroker |
| 23:04.28 | nevcairiel | thats the only one i can think of :) |
| 23:04.38 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: hrm I just add strings together in WoW and put in in an edit box |
| 23:04.39 | Nayala | They did when I used the full path to the tagged version, instead of using the split URL / TAG feature. |
| 23:04.50 | NeoTron | not sure how to control the encoding |
| 23:05.22 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: then whatever you are pasting it into is doing the encoding |
| 23:05.48 | Arrowmaster | Nayala: if they did then it was a bug that doesnt exist anymore |
| 23:06.43 | Nayala | Ah, bummer. It was how I was handling subsetting my addon. |
| 23:07.00 | Arrowmaster | infact im certain it never did that |
| 23:07.05 | selckin | NeoTron: just put a <xml> header at the top with utf-8 |
| 23:07.16 | Arrowmaster | selckin: that wont work |
| 23:07.29 | nevcairiel | I think there was a bug that caused explicit svn tags to be handled as external |
| 23:07.54 | Arrowmaster | that was only for tags i think |
| 23:08.16 | NeoTron | selckin: adding the encoding to the xml isn't hard but that does indeed not change the text given to me |
| 23:08.33 | Nayala | So to replicate that bug now I'd have to move the core off wowace svn? |
| 23:08.36 | Arrowmaster | its not the text given to you |
| 23:08.37 | selckin | wow is in utf-8 afaik |
| 23:09.25 | nevcairiel | Nayala: if you have some stuff that always has to go in one zip, place it in one repository :P |
| 23:09.25 | Arrowmaster | doesnt matter if its wow or not, hes using windows copy paste, so its all dependent on what hes pasting into |
| 23:09.50 | NeoTron | really? |
| 23:09.50 | Nayala | Have stuff for one repository that needs to go into 5 different zips. |
| 23:10.00 | NeoTron | windows converts utf8 to iso-8859-1? |
| 23:10.01 | Nayala | for = from |
| 23:10.10 | nevcairiel | make it a proper library? |
| 23:10.13 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: your editor is |
| 23:10.51 | Arrowmaster | and its being copied as pure unicode probably or utf16 |
| 23:11.08 | selckin | the file is in utf-8 |
| 23:11.16 | Arrowmaster | the file is not |
| 23:11.38 | Arrowmaster | since i have to change the encoding to iso-8859-1 for the puma name to be correct |
| 23:11.46 | Nayala | It is a library. But has several modules, that are not always needed depending on the usage. So there are different front ends that just have the pieces needed. |
| 23:12.13 | Nayala | But that means that the addons using it are empty if they are fetched as no-libs. |
| 23:12.20 | selckin | ah you are correct! |
| 23:12.25 | selckin | bad vim magic fixed it :\ |
| 23:12.47 | NeoTron | I pasted the data into xemacs running under X11 in Windows |
| 23:12.49 | Arrowmaster | Nayala: thats the point of no-libs |
| 23:12.54 | NeoTron | so... who the heck knows what that did :P |
| 23:13.15 | selckin | just always include the encoding in the file |
| 23:13.28 | Arrowmaster | enclude the encoding in the text in wow |
| 23:13.39 | Arrowmaster | then maybe xemacs will save it as utf8 |
| 23:13.39 | Nayala | Yes, and in the past they didn't include any other libraries, just the subset they needed from the core. As it is now, they end up completely empty. |
| 23:14.03 | Arrowmaster | Nayala: so make your standalone load everything |
| 23:14.52 | Arrowmaster | either split them all out into seperate libraries or make the standalone download load all the modules |
| 23:15.53 | Nayala | Problem is it's not a complete disjunction... and the "split-offs" we only created to give an easy upgrade path. |
| 23:16.20 | Arrowmaster | still sounds like a 'your doing it wrong' problem |
| 23:16.47 | NeoTron | selckin: except in ths case it seems like it converted it to iso-8859-1 for me |
| 23:16.50 | NeoTron | but that's just emacs |
| 23:17.05 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: you misspelled 'ur' |
| 23:17.28 | Nayala | It does sound that way... but hindsight is 20-20, and I don't want to change the layout before I do 2.0 |
| 23:17.48 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: yeah include a <xml encoding="UTF-8"/> whatever tag in the text in wow before copying it imho |
| 23:19.34 | Nayala | Note they way it is, it works if they use no-lib and grab all the libraries... just seems silly to even fetch the shims if they don't need it in that mode. |
| 23:19.53 | Arrowmaster | ..... |
| 23:20.00 | Arrowmaster | thats the way its suppost to work! |
| 23:20.08 | Arrowmaster | if you use no-lib you have to grab all the libraries |
| 23:20.11 | Nayala | Yes |
| 23:20.53 | ckknight | let's just not use libraries and go back to writing all the code ourselves |
| 23:20.54 | ckknight | amirite? |
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| 23:21.19 | nevcairiel | I big parts of Ace3, can i still use it now? |
| 23:21.22 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: which is fine. I don't normally paste into xemacs anyway. guessing it simply doesn't work to paste it in there correctly |
| 23:21.25 | nevcairiel | I wrote* |
| 23:21.35 | ckknight | nevcairiel: sorry, no, you'll have to rewrite it all |
| 23:21.39 | ckknight | and you can't look at the codes |
| 23:21.40 | ckknight | so |
| 23:21.43 | ckknight | expect bugs |
| 23:21.50 | nevcairiel | I don't do bugs |
| 23:22.11 | ckknight | k |
| 23:22.12 | Nayala | Guess not making myself clear. |
| 23:25.44 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/export.xml worked fine |
| 23:26.35 | Nayala | For example. Baggins_Professions, if they want the no-lib version, they have to grab LibStub, LibCallbackHandler-1.0 and LibPeriodicTable-3.1 which is exactly what should be happening. But as of the newest changes they also need to grab LibFilter-1.0, which would mean that they would get a whole bunch of modules that they wouldn't get with just the stand-alone. (Again hindsight is 20-20, and 2.0 will be designed differently.) |
| 23:26.52 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: you just added the <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> to the ingame box before copying the text? |
| 23:27.31 | Arrowmaster | Nayala: "your doing it wrong" |
| 23:27.33 | Nayala | To be honest I didn't even want to provide the shims and just have everyone grab the library if they needed it, but listed to my users and got myself into a mess. |
| 23:28.05 | Arrowmaster | "listened to my users" <- "your doing it wrong" |
| 23:28.10 | Nayala | But I'm trying to at least keep it working until a redesign which I can just dump all the junk modules. |
| 23:28.19 | Nayala | :P |
| 23:29.47 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: and I copied it into a xml text editor I downloaded |
| 23:30.16 | NeoTron | reload http://eongames.com/tmp/export.xml to see the ctrt format (but formatted, normally no whitespace) |
| 23:30.28 | selckin | most editors will ignore the header, since they don't actually parse it |
| 23:30.59 | NeoTron | it has a lot of extra crap, doesn't join looted items with an event etc |
| 23:31.16 | NeoTron | my export format almost mirrors the in-memory structure I use |
| 23:31.59 | Arrowmaster | theres a major difference between what you get when creating a ctrt export and what is used when you import a ctrt xml |
| 23:32.13 | Arrowmaster | which is why the format sucks so much |
| 23:32.16 | NeoTron | right |
| 23:32.22 | NeoTron | my export is NOT the "full" ctrt format |
| 23:32.39 | NeoTron | it's just the stuff you need. I _think_ ctrt puts the player info in each entry in each event for example |
| 23:32.48 | Arrowmaster | so in other words, make an publish an xsd for it |
| 23:33.07 | Arrowmaster | ctrt only reads the player info from the <join> sections |
| 23:33.13 | NeoTron | but the really dumb thing is that they use <keyX></keyX> around all "events" |
| 23:33.56 | NeoTron | in that export I fake the "join/leave" to only surround actual events |
| 23:34.18 | NeoTron | also the importer doesn't import events without items which is comical. it's bad |
| 23:35.03 | NeoTron | anyone know of a free xml => xsd generator? |
| 23:35.24 | Arrowmaster | i dont think the xsd syntax is that complex |
| 23:38.10 | ckknight | down with XML |
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| 23:43.54 | Gnarfoz | down with ckknight |
| 23:44.00 | ckknight | boo |
| 23:44.17 | Gnarfoz | \o/ |
| 23:44.23 | NeoTron | I should export in lisp format |
| 23:44.29 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: ...don't |
| 23:44.37 | NeoTron | (raid (start 12123) (end 123123) (events (event (... )))))) |
| 23:45.38 | Arrowmaster | yaml |
| 23:45.41 | deQer | purl, that wasn't a meaningful kiss. :( |
| 23:45.51 | selckin | be cool use json |
| 23:46.13 | Arrowmaster | @describe libjson-1-0 |
| 23:46.14 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libjson-1-0/. LibJSON-1.0. LibJSON-1.0 is a library to convert between Lua objects and serialized JSON objects This is mostly useful if you are exporting lua data to external applications. local LibJSON = LibStub("LibJSON-1.0")... |
| 23:46.37 | selckin | cool |
| 23:46.42 | selckin | i'm gonna use that! |
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