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00:09.23 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r258 modules/ChannelNames.lua: fix channel naming |
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00:29.41 | Nayala | I've two questions about .pkgmeta. First is it possible to specify embeds of subdirectories of git projects and if so how. Second is how does tag bit work with SVN, does it effectively write the mainline/trunk bit of the SVN url as tag/tagname? |
00:31.06 | Nayala | I'm thinking of using git for the 2.0 version of LibFilter, but want to keep the ability to embed just sub folders. |
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00:42.51 | Xinhuan | nayala, i don't think you can embed subfolders in git using pkgmeta (at the moment) |
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00:43.08 | Nayala | Bummer, that's what I was afraid the answer would be. |
00:43.15 | Xinhuan | ask ckknight for a clarification perhaps |
00:43.37 | ckknight | yes you can |
00:43.41 | kenlyric | is there a mod that will let me see my party members quest objectives in my own quest tracker? |
00:43.49 | Nayala | Oh, how? |
00:43.57 | kenlyric | even if i don't have the quest |
00:44.04 | Xinhuan | if its possible, its probably described in the pkgmeta knowledge base |
00:44.10 | Xinhuan | i haven't looked at it for a while |
00:44.19 | Nayala | Looked there first. |
00:44.42 | Xinhuan | ok you're going to have to bug ck for that one then if it isn't in knowledge base |
00:45.05 | ckknight | by adding folder to the end, after .git |
00:45.28 | Nayala | Cool |
00:48.22 | Nayala | So does it rewrite SVN urls when used with the tag field? Not that that matters if the git stuff works, since I'll probably just switch for my new stuff. I.e. url: svn://server/wow/project/mainline/trunk/subdir tag:fubar mean it actually gets svn://server/wow/project/mainline/tag/fubar/subdir? |
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01:00.41 | ckknight | yes |
01:00.51 | Nayala | Thanks again. |
01:01.15 | ckknight | http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/a/a5/Ihasashuvel.jpg |
01:04.07 | Arrowmaster | you really shouldnt be using subdirs like that with git though |
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01:04.48 | Nayala | Why? I will have a bunch of modules that I only want certain subsets in some addons. |
01:05.51 | Nayala | Though I've thought about making each module as it's own project as an alternative. |
01:08.02 | Nayala | Is there another way to do that? |
01:09.05 | Xinhuan | TRANSFER_ABORT_UNIQUE_MESSAGE1 = "Until you've escaped The Lich King's grasp, you cannot leave this place!"; |
01:09.06 | Xinhuan | lol |
01:10.06 | Xinhuan | its fine nayala, consider it like ace3 |
01:10.14 | Xinhuan | people only include subsets of ace3 that they need |
01:10.21 | Xinhuan | and not the entire ace3 |
01:11.32 | Xinhuan | hohoho pastamancer |
01:11.35 | Xinhuan | +function ENV.UnitHasVehicleUI(unit) |
01:11.41 | Xinhuan | +return UnitCanAssist("player", unit) and UnitHasVehicleUI(unit) |
01:11.41 | Xinhuan | +end |
01:11.47 | Xinhuan | in latest PTR patch |
01:12.03 | Xinhuan | you can now figure out if a player has a vehicle securely |
01:12.21 | Xinhuan | in the restricted environment |
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01:32.33 | Catreina | @project AceHook-3.0 |
01:32.34 | Repo | Catreina: No project found that matches 'acehook-3.0' |
01:32.38 | Catreina | bah |
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01:40.20 | pompy | Catreina: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/ |
01:40.27 | Catreina | where can I find API documentation on AceHook-3.0? I am having issues.... bah, thanks |
01:40.36 | Catreina | I think |
01:41.26 | Catreina | yeah, I see DB, Event, Config, and some other stuff (not linked), but the only stuff I can find for AceHook is for 2.2 or earlier |
01:42.33 | Catreina | http://old.wowace.com/wiki/Category:API_Documentation only shows 2.2 =( |
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01:46.21 | pompy | http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/pages/getting-started/ |
01:53.15 | Catreina | I have read that a few times, but knowing the specifics of the arguments (like http://old.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3) is what I am looking for. I want to learn and digest, not just copy/paste =) |
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01:54.48 | Catreina | for example, I cannot determine through the information provided if I have to RawHook a non-secure function to stop it from executing after I work on it if I need too |
01:55.00 | Catreina | do I have to always rawhook in that instance? |
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02:10.36 | Kilroo | Well, this is becoming moderately annoying. |
02:11.56 | Kilroo | considers trying out the latest Curse client as a temporary measure. |
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02:27.35 | Catreina | ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler is considered secure? |
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03:41.43 | Catreina | can I enumerate tradeskill recipes/patterns/etc without having to open up the window itself? |
03:43.00 | ckknight | lol: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1238118773956.jpg |
03:43.17 | ckknight | (SFW)\ |
03:44.21 | Catreina | I know most tradeskill mods force you to open the tradeskill window first so they can save the tradeskills, but one would think that requirement would be removed or worked around by now |
03:47.29 | sacarasc | ckknight: That was kinda funny, but I saved it for later anyway. |
03:48.12 | Ackis | Catreina: you need it open |
03:48.37 | Catreina | damn |
03:49.19 | Ackis | what are you planning on doing? |
03:50.24 | Catreina | Well, gemlist doesnt seem to work well at all anymore |
03:50.31 | Catreina | and GemHelper is the same |
03:50.42 | sacarasc | Ackis: Get me the remaining mining, cooking and engineering recipes I need. |
03:50.54 | Ackis | sacarasc: ni hao? |
03:51.14 | Catreina | and I want to have a bit more control over certain aspects, as well as make a GUI and bring it to Ace3, so I decided to code a new one from scratch |
03:51.15 | sacarasc | You made the mod that reminds me I'm missing stuff, you get me the stuff! |
03:51.35 | Catreina | instead of asking to take over gemlist (as it is currently abandoned) |
03:51.51 | Ackis | sacarasc: want me to make a mod that says "you have a small penis" as well to remind you? |
03:51.56 | Catreina | LOL |
03:51.59 | Ackis | Catreina: ah ok |
03:51.59 | sacarasc | Yes! |
03:52.21 | Catreina | omg I am rofl |
03:52.30 | sacarasc | I often get caught out with that... "You said your penis was big!" "I forgot I have a micropenis." |
03:52.51 | Ackis | lol |
03:52.59 | Ackis | @project broker-itemlist |
03:53.00 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-itemlist/. Broker_Itemlist. Game: WoW. Morgalm (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 days ago |
03:54.19 | Catreina | so I have to open the JC panel first to populate the db list |
03:55.43 | Catreina | what would the event be when learning a new skill/recipe? I presume it would have a "SKILL" or "LEARNED" in it? |
03:56.20 | Ackis | tradeskill_update maybe? |
03:57.13 | Catreina | that seems to fire way too much |
03:57.13 | Catreina | Fired immediately after TRADE_SKILL_SHOW, after something is created via tradeskill, or anytime the tradeskill window is updated (filtered, tree folded/unfolded, etc.) |
03:57.59 | Ackis | @ticket broker-itemlist 3 |
03:58.00 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-itemlist/tickets/3 - Embeds fubared?. Reported by: Ackis. Type: Defect. Updated: 87 seconds ago. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Morgalm. Votes: 0. Comments: 1 |
03:59.00 | Catreina | looks like it might be the only one that fires when a new recipe is learned tho |
04:00.15 | Ackis | nevcairiel: 'Hide Health values if at 100%' missing from sraidframes, just added it to the localization app |
04:06.41 | Ackis | http://paste.wowace.com/396/ what am I doing wrong w/ that? |
04:06.53 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Strangely enough, my problem was with farclip. I turned it to half and suddenly my framerates stay high...played three hours tonight without a change. |
04:07.12 | Torhal | ...which is bullshit considering I have a 1GB 9500GT |
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04:22.35 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r85 / (3 files in 1 directory): Removed debug code. |
04:22.38 | Repo | Bumped version number to 1.0.3. |
04:24.09 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg 04v1.0.3 * r86 : Tagging as v1.0.3 |
04:25.24 | Catreina | interesting |
04:26.05 | Catreina | the chat hook seems to be working fine, except that when I introduce WIM into the scenario, the whisper I am trying to totally drop is being shown |
04:26.45 | Catreina | is it possible to force the hook to be executed first? |
04:27.42 | WobWork | can't you call the hook before your code? |
04:28.00 | WobWork | hm, I haven't written any hooking scripts since WAR, so I'd be confused =P |
04:28.05 | Catreina | I mean is it possible to call my hook before another addons gets called? |
04:28.17 | Catreina | without WIM the whispers are silently dropped |
04:28.26 | Catreina | once I enable WIM, they show up. |
04:28.46 | Catreina | leading me to believe that WIM's hook is run before mine |
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04:33.17 | Vonhinten | ~wowalert |
04:33.18 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
04:33.42 | Vonhinten | can't connect, what the shit |
04:35.36 | Catreina | I got booted too |
04:35.45 | Catreina | might be a down or hiccuping router |
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04:42.38 | pompy1 | I got disconnected too |
04:43.28 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1610 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
04:43.31 | Repo | Fix up the dump command with some flags, and make the tradeskill remembering stuff way more robust (doesn't save tradeskills which aren't your own, etc) |
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04:52.21 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1611 AckisRecipeList.lua: |
04:52.24 | Repo | Make a function which nukes the saved data for tradeskills. If you're getting an error on opening a tradeskill run that and all should be fixed. |
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04:56.31 | nocts | Heads up, has anyone noticed this google code project? Licensed under GPL, but it's taking directly from a number of addons from the community. - http://code.google.com/p/addons/ |
05:03.00 | Catreina | I think the person posting that is trying to post a compilation and doing so inappropriately (for a mage) |
05:03.13 | Catreina | at least that is what it looks like at first glance |
05:05.57 | nocts | There are non-GPL mods that he is releasing as GPL, which is illegal. |
05:06.17 | nocts | I kind of get that he may just be storing them for personal use, or even a compilation. |
05:06.41 | nocts | Still. Just wanted to make people aware; Antiarc's code is in there too. |
05:09.42 | Catreina | I see, well actually I did not see, but then I dont know which mods are GPL and which are not. |
05:10.00 | Catreina | not by sight anyway |
05:11.14 | nocts | Xinhuan, as well. |
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05:18.05 | Catreina | anyone have experience with the recent LibChatHandler-1.0? |
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05:32.39 | orionshock | Catreina: other than it's written in a fairly awkward way... |
05:33.36 | sb|work | morning |
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05:39.55 | Catreina | yeah |
05:40.39 | Catreina | well, the reason asked is because it seems that will be the easiest way for me to work with WIM (if people have it installed) with me being totally new to addon coding |
05:41.09 | Catreina | but the library creation pulled right from the site causes the addon, which is working without that library, to fail |
05:41.25 | Catreina | and its a different LibStub call than I have seen so far: |
05:41.31 | Catreina | local libCH = LibStub:GetLibrary("LibChatHandler-1.0"); |
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05:44.46 | WobWork | I suspect it's the same call as your expected one |
05:44.55 | WobWork | but I'd have to look at libstub to say for sure |
05:45.01 | orionshock | it is. |
05:45.32 | orionshock | They set the metatable's __call to the GetLibary function, it's the same function in the end |
05:46.16 | Catreina | so I could theoretically use |
05:46.30 | Catreina | local libCH = LibStub("LibChatHandler-1.0") |
05:46.31 | Catreina | ? |
05:46.44 | orionshock | yes, the 2 forms are the same |
05:46.51 | Catreina | the thing is, both cause immediate failure of the addon |
05:46.57 | Catreina | the one I am working on that s |
05:47.00 | Catreina | is* |
05:47.36 | orionshock | the lib is prolly not loaded by the time you call it |
05:48.09 | orionshock | have you tried dumping the lib to the chat frame via /dump ? |
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05:48.48 | Catreina | havent done any addon coding until today (since 1.0 anyway), and so I have not been up to date on Ace or any commands |
05:48.53 | Catreina | what does /dump do |
05:48.58 | orionshock | :) |
05:49.05 | Catreina | lol |
05:49.19 | orionshock | it dumps any lua value to the chat frame, /dump the one i use either comes with prat or the left over ace2 libs. |
05:49.30 | Catreina | ah |
05:49.31 | orionshock | Ace3 dosn't have a /dump command, but they have /print tho |
05:49.41 | orionshock | there are many addons that have it |
05:49.43 | Catreina | I have prat and ace2 disabled while I am working on this |
05:49.44 | orionshock | DevTools |
05:50.37 | Catreina | interesting |
05:50.52 | Catreina | /dump doesnt seem to exist with Prat3 |
05:51.16 | orionshock | could be |
05:51.44 | Catreina | I presume DevTools is an addon for... uh... addon developers? |
05:51.46 | Catreina | =) |
05:51.55 | orionshock | da |
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05:54.26 | sb|work | hmm, patch soon? :p or why are they removing so much stuff from framexml? |
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06:00.55 | orionshock | sb|work: i give it ~2 weeks still |
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06:06.45 | Catreina | I agree - ~2 weeks. |
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06:11.23 | Civrock | "I got confirmation today they pushed the live release back to April 14th. It was supposed to be March 28th. Up until two days ago, they thought they could hit the 28th, so only pushing it up a bit makes me fairly confident that it wont be changed again." |
06:11.29 | Civrock | Two weeks old quote. |
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06:19.38 | orionshock | release will be on April 1st.. you'll see the downloader come up and give you a window saying " Well it was a good joke" :) |
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06:22.57 | Catreina | lol |
06:25.39 | Catreina | is there an easy way to queue outgoing messages so one doesnt get booted for sending too many too quickly? |
06:25.39 | Axodious | z... last us qiraji gates opening in ~5 hours |
06:25.48 | Catreina | really? |
06:25.52 | Axodious | yea |
06:25.57 | Catreina | I have never seen t |
06:25.59 | Catreina | it* |
06:26.01 | Catreina | what server |
06:26.05 | Axodious | borean tundra |
06:26.13 | Axodious | couple friends of mine are getting mounts ;o |
06:27.04 | Catreina | seems kinda unfair that the whole questline can be done still but after that there will be no chance at the mount forever =/ |
06:27.09 | Catreina | but c'est la vie |
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06:27.39 | Axodious | if it was such a big problem i dunno why blue didnt change it at bc |
06:29.14 | Catreina | I dont think its a problem, just a loss of some of the best content in the game, ever. |
06:30.30 | Catreina | hmmm |
06:31.01 | Catreina | using AceTimer I could potentially queue outgoing whispers so my addon wont cause me to be disconnected, yes? |
06:31.04 | Axodious | i mean the scarab title/mount |
06:31.28 | Axodious | blues excuse for turning off the gate opening is it caused too much havok on new servers |
06:31.36 | Catreina | lawls |
06:31.40 | Axodious | too many people trying to opening the gate |
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06:54.55 | Catreina | would it be good practice/coding to call ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter from inside the event you are looking to filter? |
06:54.56 | Catreina | lol |
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07:38.58 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r87 / (7 files in 2 directories): Switched to new localization string format. |
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07:56.57 | Arrowmaster | Catreina: use ChatThrottleLib and you wont have to queue outgoing whispers, and you dont call ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter from inside of a chat event |
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08:18.08 | Repo | 10libfilter-1-0: 03Nayala * r42 / (5 files in 5 directories): Update licenses before tagging. |
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08:19.10 | Mytos | does anyone know how i would write a macro to open just the backpack and first bag of my inventory? |
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08:19.53 | Repo | 10libfilter-1-0: 03Nayala 042009-03-27 * r43 : |
08:19.56 | Repo | Fix somebugs in ItemRack, Soulbound and ClosetGnome filters, add Equipment Manager Filter |
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08:32.49 | Repo | 10baggins_closet-gnome: 03Nayala 042009-03-27 * r49 : Release 2009-03-27. Fix set icons |
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08:36.54 | Repo | 10baggins_item-rack: 03Nayala 042009-03-27 * r54 : Release 2009-03-27: Fix fuzzy filter option. |
08:39.09 | Nayala | Halfway done... Only a little more repo spam coming. |
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08:51.29 | Repo | 10baggins_libfilter: 03Nayala 042009-03-27 * r16 : |
08:51.32 | Repo | Release 2009-03-27: Fix ClosetGnome set icons, ItemRack fuzzy filter, Soulbound for bank items, and 3.1 Equipment Manager Filter |
08:54.04 | Repo | 10baggins_professions: 03Nayala * r40 .pkgmeta: Prep for release |
08:55.35 | Repo | 10baggins_professions: 03Nayala 042009-03-27 * r41 : Release 2009-03-27: Pick up latest LibPeriodicTable-3.1 |
08:57.24 | Repo | 10baggins_usable: 03Nayala * r45 .pkgmeta: Update .pkgmeta to make future releases easier. |
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09:32.52 | orionshock | did they fix VH when wiping on bosses |
09:33.02 | orionshock | you go back to the one you where at or do u get to do the whole thing over again? |
09:33.07 | orionshock | or is that in next patch? |
09:33.46 | Hjalte | They're fixing that? |
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09:37.46 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r644 sRaidFrames.lua: Repackage for locale updates |
09:42.33 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r1924 / (3 files in 3 directories): - Tier 8 progress |
09:51.09 | SunTsu | orionshock: Why would they change that? I thought that was the basic difficulty of VH |
09:56.18 | jnwhiteh | http://apidiff.pastey.net/111029 |
09:58.17 | Hjalte | More joystick support, it seems |
10:01.00 | sb|work | more? |
10:01.07 | sb|work | its all removed :o |
10:01.59 | nevcairiel | Yeah they removed it again |
10:02.44 | Hjalte | Oh, so that's what is missing |
10:03.14 | Megalon | now that i bought a Cyborg X they remove joystick support! ;( |
10:04.47 | sb|work | thats why it looks like some 'cleanup build' to me :p |
10:04.52 | sb|work | so patch in 1.5 weeks? ;) |
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10:15.25 | nevcairiel | Depends how finished Ulduar is now |
10:15.44 | nevcairiel | flame leviathan was still really bugged in the last build |
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10:27.54 | orionshock | where is the NPC that does the badge exchange? |
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10:29.44 | orionshock | ... next to the NPC i was standing next too.. |
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11:00.18 | Shirik | time for bed |
11:00.19 | Shirik | bai |
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12:08.18 | Groktar | nibbles on your soul |
12:08.33 | Lukian | purrs and claws Groktar |
12:08.46 | Groktar | sticks his tongue in Lukian's ear |
12:09.06 | Lukian | is a sad panda |
12:09.52 | Grum | a panda! |
12:09.55 | Grum | kills it |
12:09.56 | sb|work | stop it :( |
12:10.09 | Groktar | huggles sb|work |
12:10.17 | Grum | WTS [Panda Hide], [Tiny Panda Skull] |
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13:02.12 | vhaarr | holy crap I just fell in love with the EU |
13:02.14 | vhaarr | http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/expert/infopress_page/017-52613-082-03-13-902-20090325IPR52612-23-03-2009-2009-false/default_en.htm |
13:02.57 | vhaarr | in a nutshell, "The European Parliament adopted a new report on security and fundamental freedoms on the Internet that expressly rejects disproportionate measures for IP enforcement and and the use of excessive access restrictions placed by IP rights holders." |
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13:07.27 | nevcairiel | Now lets hope our countrys adopt this fast |
13:09.04 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: man, you really have faith, don't you? |
13:09.35 | nevcairiel | I didn't read the article yet |
13:09.42 | nevcairiel | but they could as well force it on us =P |
13:11.00 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Yeah, but they normally only force things on us the law makes didn't have the power to push through on their own |
13:11.05 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/deus-vox-encounters/. Deus Vox Encounters. kollektiv (Manager/Author), Sockfolder (Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
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13:11.24 | nevcairiel | I don't see how they would refuse to implement this policy |
13:14.29 | sb|work | your are talking about our country and "fast"? :o |
13:14.30 | sb|work | haha :o |
13:15.05 | SunTsu | sb|work: well, it's like Blizz' "soon" ;) |
13:16.01 | sb|work | err well, later, going home now :p |
13:18.05 | Elkano | ok, that's strange... |
13:18.51 | Elkano | my HS is bound in Orgrimmar but I ended up in between some 'highlevel' mobs in southern Dustwallow Marsh Oo |
13:19.18 | selckin | i've ended up in westfall 3 times in the last month |
13:19.39 | SunTsu | Elkano: See, that's what you get for playing horde ;) |
13:19.43 | selckin | working as intented says the gm |
13:20.05 | selckin | reporting stuff is so futile |
13:20.26 | nevcairiel | its probably the 0/0/0 location for the continent |
13:20.46 | nevcairiel | westfall is the 0 for EK |
13:22.53 | Elkano | maybe... still sucks though |
13:23.06 | Elkano | can't fly nowhere from here... |
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13:59.39 | sb|work | nevcairiel: nah, 0/0/0 is stonetalon |
14:04.29 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.3.0-beta2-2-g7ae74d6 Options (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
14:04.32 | Repo | 7ae74d6: Use a custom widget for the X/Y Coordinate EditBox |
14:04.35 | Repo | 842fb68: Options tweaks and fixes |
14:11.21 | ckknight | hey all |
14:11.35 | ckknight | (SFW) http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1238158315408.jpg - so, left, middle, or right? |
14:12.08 | Civrock | Right. |
14:12.15 | nevcairiel | middle |
14:12.25 | Civrock | All three at the same time? |
14:12.26 | renchap | middle |
14:12.32 | ckknight | I'd go with right |
14:12.51 | JY`_ | it's a trap |
14:12.54 | ckknight | but I'd tell the left one she's a bit too chunky for me |
14:13.03 | JY`_ | they're all men |
14:13.03 | ckknight | thus causing her to spiral ever downward |
14:13.18 | ckknight | JY`_: it's not a trap |
14:13.22 | JY`_ | :) |
14:13.24 | nevcairiel | left looks a bit like fiona from burn notice, imho |
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14:13.51 | pb_ee1 | middle or right :D |
14:13.53 | ckknight | yea, she kinda does |
14:13.59 | JY`_ | i just like trap girls pciture concept |
14:15.28 | krka | ckknight: they're all too fat anyway! |
14:15.39 | ckknight | lol, krka |
14:16.02 | nevcairiel | lol |
14:17.02 | krka | nah, only the right one is fat |
14:17.11 | ramoz | i'd go with right any day - look at the nice forms! |
14:17.37 | krka | spherical is not the only geometric form in the world |
14:17.41 | ckknight | yea, I like curves, which is why I'd go with right |
14:17.42 | nevcairiel | lol |
14:18.01 | nevcairiel | You can be so mean on a geometrical level! |
14:18.08 | krka | curves does not mean purely convex |
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14:26.05 | Catreina | theres someone on the left there? |
14:26.23 | Catreina | Middle is close to perfect, right is perfect. |
14:38.25 | ckknight | I should go to work |
14:38.29 | ckknight | but I gotta put pants on for that |
14:38.33 | ckknight | unfair, if you ask me |
14:40.09 | Kalroth | why? |
14:40.17 | Kalroth | It's not a requirement at my workplace |
14:40.34 | selckin | its pantless fridays are global |
14:41.35 | Catreina | is there a library or something that can help me queue outgoing whispers, or am I resigned to coding my own with timers? |
14:42.13 | Catreina | and on that note, is there a hard limit to the number of whispers/(minute|second) before being booted? |
14:42.30 | Kalroth | Pantless |
14:42.30 | Kalroth | 1. A lack thereof pants. |
14:42.30 | Kalroth | 2. To be at peace with ones legs. |
14:42.30 | Kalroth | 3. A state of perfection. Not to be confuzed with the state of New York. |
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14:53.53 | ckknight | hey all |
14:54.53 | Catreina | hey ck =) |
14:55.33 | Catreina | You happen to know of any libraries that queue outgoing messages, or should I just create the function to do so myself |
14:57.56 | Kalroth | Isn't there a message queue library in Ace already? |
14:58.44 | BWMerlin | so many people don't understand how gathermate node locations work |
14:58.58 | Catreina | I know there is a timer library, but I havent found anything about a message queuing feature |
14:59.08 | Catreina | if there is, I havent seen it yet. |
14:59.09 | Xinhuan | there isn't any such library |
14:59.17 | Xinhuan | because there hasn't really been a need |
14:59.19 | Xinhuan | for one |
14:59.19 | Kalroth | didn't there use to be one? |
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14:59.26 | Kalroth | in Ace 2 at least? |
14:59.56 | Xinhuan | ace2/3 only throtles SendAddOnMessage() |
15:00.02 | Xinhuan | not SendChatMessage() |
15:00.16 | Kalroth | Yeah, that's what I assumed he meant |
15:00.31 | Kalroth | Ah, he said whispers the first time :p |
15:00.43 | Catreina | It isnt likely that I will -need- to throttle whispers, but in the event that three or four people send requests and I respond to them all with 10 lines each, that could get me booted |
15:00.47 | Catreina | <=== Jennifer |
15:00.58 | do3mca | MOAR CHIX |
15:01.12 | Catreina | lol |
15:01.20 | Kalroth | Everyone online is a "he", mainly because saying "it" is rude and so is asking! |
15:01.24 | do3mca | Sorry, CNR. |
15:01.35 | Catreina | in any event, I will have to code it myself then. |
15:01.41 | do3mca | w00t! |
15:01.44 | do3mca | moar chix coding! |
15:01.46 | Catreina | I know Kalroth - just letting you know =) |
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15:01.52 | do3mca | oops. i should stop know ^^ |
15:01.59 | sztanpet | i would reuse chatthrottlelib |
15:02.19 | Kalroth | do3mca: That's a bad thing though, I've been told that girls code like they drive a car |
15:02.22 | Kalroth | hides. |
15:02.23 | Catreina | oh wait |
15:02.27 | Catreina | OMFG |
15:02.27 | do3mca | lolz |
15:02.32 | Catreina | KALROTH! |
15:02.35 | Catreina | lol |
15:02.35 | Kalroth | <- not here |
15:02.38 | Kalroth | :P |
15:02.57 | Catreina | You know that statistically, boys and men have higher accident rates and DUI rates? |
15:02.59 | do3mca | now tis was actually funny ^^ |
15:03.16 | Kalroth | Catreina: Sure, that's because males are dumbasses, not because they'd bad drivers |
15:03.29 | Catreina | Statistics show that accidents == bad driving |
15:03.54 | Kalroth | No, bad driving == female crashing into a road sign at 15 mph |
15:03.55 | Catreina | =) |
15:03.58 | Catreina | LOL |
15:04.07 | Kalroth | accident == male crashing into a road sign as 150 mph |
15:04.14 | Kalroth | at* |
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15:04.38 | Catreina | I have never been in an accdent. Neither has my mother, or my sister. My brother however, has totalled 4 cars, two of them in a front yard to someone elses house. |
15:05.00 | Kalroth | haha, what |
15:05.02 | do3mca | what does that mean |
15:05.02 | Catreina | anyway.... ChatThrottleLibe by Mikk |
15:05.09 | do3mca | your X chromosomes suck |
15:05.13 | Kalroth | Mikk for pres! |
15:05.15 | Catreina | LOL |
15:05.27 | Catreina | chatthrottlelib is a part of Ace3 |
15:05.37 | Catreina | -- ChatThrottleLib.SendChatMessage/.SendAddonMessage functions that accept |
15:05.37 | Catreina | -- a Priority ("BULK", "NORMAL", "ALERT") as well as prefix for SendChatMessage. |
15:05.41 | do3mca | lot of libs are part of ace3 |
15:05.47 | AckisWork | Catreina: wasn't the creation of yourself an accident? :P and no it's not part of ace3 |
15:06.05 | Catreina | it was in the download I just got |
15:06.18 | do3mca | embedded maybe |
15:06.26 | Catreina | in the AceComm library folder anyway |
15:06.27 | sztanpet | its bult in |
15:06.31 | sztanpet | :D |
15:07.01 | Catreina | local CTL = assert(ChatThrottleLib, "AceComm-3.0 requires ChatThrottleLib") |
15:07.03 | Catreina | =) |
15:08.10 | Catreina | anyway, my search is over, you were with me all the while. |
15:08.17 | Catreina | facepalms |
15:08.24 | Catreina | sorry |
15:08.25 | do3mca | we just pretended |
15:08.28 | do3mca | who are you? |
15:08.57 | sztanpet | a gurl zomg |
15:09.06 | AckisWork | wot? |
15:09.15 | AckisWork | there ARE no girls on the internet! |
15:09.18 | Kalroth | do3mca is a chick, Ackis! |
15:09.18 | Catreina | Jennifer |
15:09.18 | do3mca | on irc all men are men, all women are men and little kids are fbi agents |
15:09.25 | Catreina | LOL |
15:09.26 | do3mca | Kalroth: !true |
15:09.53 | AckisWork | I'm so confused |
15:09.53 | ramoz | Welcome to IRC where the Men are Men, the Women are Men, and the little girls are FBI agents. |
15:10.08 | do3mca | yah, ramoz haz teh more correct version |
15:10.46 | do3mca | sorry, guess i spoiled it ^^ |
15:11.44 | WobWork | ~irc |
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15:15.16 | Catreina | lol |
15:15.47 | do3mca | mh. she can say lol. does that count as advanced irc user? |
15:20.33 | kenlyric | fucking talented |
15:20.40 | kenlyric | I need you to fucking work now not two months from now |
15:21.54 | haste | donate to the author! |
15:22.21 | thul | FUCKING |
15:23.20 | nevcairiel | Or just dont use fucking alpha versions :P |
15:23.58 | Catreina | is an IRC Server owner |
15:24.15 | thul | look at me, I'm caring. |
15:24.15 | Catreina | Advanced? Yeah. Guru? not a chance |
15:24.22 | thul | ass rapes Fisker- |
15:24.25 | Catreina | thul - that wasnt to you |
15:24.51 | thul | continues to sodomize Fisker- |
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15:26.01 | AckisWork | Catreina: gurls can't use irc! |
15:27.16 | Catreina | you are correct. I am really a Neptunian Lizard. |
15:28.51 | dodga | prffft IRC server owner |
15:29.00 | dodga | everybody and their mom can be that |
15:29.17 | sb|work | so you are, right? |
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15:29.28 | thul | AckisWork: that would have gotten you kicked from #xkcd |
15:29.29 | thul | :-P |
15:29.31 | dodga | No if you've told me you own a stripper pole I'd be more impressed. |
15:29.36 | dodga | s/No/Now/ |
15:29.43 | AckisWork | thul: what's xkcd? |
15:29.57 | thul | the irc-channel for this: http://xkcd.com/ |
15:29.59 | dodga | sb|work: No, too lame nowadays. As I said, even you could be that :P |
15:30.16 | thul | and dodga and AckisWork : http://xkcd.com/322/ |
15:30.22 | thul | READ AND WEEP NOW |
15:30.33 | dodga | thul: blabla, know that already :P |
15:30.51 | AckisWork | i'm so confused |
15:31.04 | dodga | thul: http://abstrusegoose.com/132 :P |
15:31.06 | thul | xkcd is _the_ nerdy comic to read and #xkcd-signal is _the_ nerdy irc-channel to hang out in |
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15:31.49 | ramoz | on what network? |
15:32.04 | thul | irc.xkcd.com |
15:32.27 | thul | #xkcd is a bit too populated, #xkcd-signal is a very good project to improve signal-to-noise-ratio by robot-interference |
15:32.34 | do3mca | catreina: irc server owner? yea. i run ircd on my windoze box, too |
15:32.37 | do3mca | hahahaha |
15:32.37 | AckisWork | i'm still confused |
15:32.45 | do3mca | only one user, though :< |
15:32.54 | ramoz | fucksake is up with everyone and their mother having their own network these days =( |
15:32.55 | dodga | AckisWork: Google for some boobies, always cheers me up |
15:33.03 | thul | why are you confused AckisWork? |
15:33.07 | thul | ramoz: irc.xkcd.com is cool :-( |
15:33.21 | thul | ramoz: /connect irc.xkcd.com /join #xkcd-signal (I'm lucifer (of course I am)) |
15:33.37 | AckisWork | i don't know why i'd be kicked |
15:33.49 | AckisWork | i'm trying to find out the serial # for my video card that's at home :( |
15:33.53 | nevcairiel | ackis wants boobs? http://users.on.net/~bleeter/pix/boobies.jpg |
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15:33.57 | quiescens | 42 |
15:34.26 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: I saw you got my message about lib babble stuff last night? |
15:34.38 | dodga | nevcairiel: I got all excited now :\ |
15:34.48 | thul | I think is one of my favourite articles online ever: http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_fact-and-theory.html |
15:34.54 | thul | AckisWork: read the comic I linked :-( |
15:35.22 | dodga | thul: tl;dr.. I got stuff to do :P |
15:35.56 | do3mca | xkcd is welcome to irc.OFTC.net |
15:36.29 | thul | dodga: the comic was too long?! :-P |
15:36.55 | dodga | no, that stupid article |
15:37.07 | thul | dodga: the article is amazing, you kretin! |
15:37.14 | dodga | whatever |
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15:48.08 | do3mca | mh. who would i bugger for the curse updater? |
15:48.27 | AckisWork | Kaelten always likes to be bent over |
15:48.28 | AckisWork | bugger hum |
15:48.32 | AckisWork | *him |
15:48.33 | do3mca | it seems it has some oddities with localized versions of vista |
15:49.08 | do3mca | *scratchhead* well, it works, but tells me all the time the path is invalid. |
15:49.13 | do3mca | +that |
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16:53.14 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 073.1 * 1.4.5-3-gb3b534a HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Abolish Poison is now 12 seconds, and added support for Abolish Disease. |
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17:01.35 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1612 RecipeDB/ARL-Alchemy.lua: Update Lesser Agi flags/acquire (Ticket 458) |
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17:09.44 | Catreina | how does Repo work? |
17:09.58 | SunTsu | It's a kind of magic |
17:10.02 | Catreina | lol |
17:10.09 | durcyn | trick question, Repo doesn't work |
17:10.12 | Catreina | LOL |
17:10.32 | Catreina | is it just when someone posts an update to their addon on wowace? |
17:10.45 | renchap | when someone commits |
17:11.16 | nevcairiel | yeah, it shows commits to the source repositorys |
17:11.33 | Catreina | I see |
17:11.54 | Catreina | I am going to have to learn how to use that when I am done the initial coding for my first addon here.... =/ |
17:12.20 | nevcairiel | Have you used any VCS yet? |
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17:13.12 | Catreina | nope |
17:13.35 | Catreina | not even when I was coding my own projects and applications with vb/perl/php |
17:13.45 | SunTsu | hums AC/DCs "Highway to hell" |
17:13.59 | Catreina | I have never used VCS/RCS nor CVS - just code and upload |
17:14.07 | Catreina | so its going to be more new stuff for me |
17:14.22 | nevcairiel | Once you start using it, you will not want to miss it again :) |
17:16.17 | Catreina | is there anything wrong with doing |
17:16.18 | Catreina | function JCList:CHAT_MSG_WHISPER(eventName, ...) |
17:16.22 | Catreina | <PROTECTED> |
17:16.26 | Catreina | ??? |
17:16.50 | Xinhuan | no, nothing wrong with that |
17:17.10 | Catreina | I am used to arguments being passed in the function call, but I am still slightly confused with the global event,arg1... and the ... operator |
17:17.17 | durcyn | i'd use ChatFrame_AddMessageFilter("CHAT_MSG_WHISPER", function) personally |
17:17.21 | Xinhuan | ignore globals Catreina |
17:17.28 | Xinhuan | just use the ones passed in |
17:17.45 | vhaarr | durcyn: who says he needs a filter |
17:17.46 | Xinhuan | the globals are provided only for backwards compatibility |
17:17.58 | Xinhuan | you shouldn't need to use any of them ever |
17:18.41 | Xinhuan | ... is just a special variable name that means "the remainder arguments" |
17:18.46 | Xinhuan | it isn't an operator |
17:19.04 | Catreina | I do use a filter to hide the incoming and outgoing messages (spammy), but I am currently using it ONLY for that |
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17:20.38 | Catreina | I suppose I could put the one call from the CHAT_MSG_WHISPER event into the filter call, but from what I have read that could miss data. I am probably wrong on that tho |
17:20.56 | vhaarr | why don't you just explain what you're actually trying to do |
17:21.12 | vhaarr | and paste the code on paste.wowace.com |
17:21.22 | Catreina | one sec |
17:24.42 | Catreina | http://paste.wowace.com/397/ |
17:25.02 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1613 ARLConfig.lua: Update a bit of code formatting.) |
17:25.16 | Catreina | I am trying to both hide incoming whispers (and the responses to them) with specific triggers, and also process said incoming whispers |
17:25.41 | Catreina | the filtering is what caused my confusion with globals and ... etc. |
17:26.05 | vhaarr | you can do both with the filter, you don't need the event as well |
17:26.31 | Xinhuan | Catreina, what kind of incoming whispers are you trying to process? |
17:26.36 | Xinhuan | something like !gem agility |
17:26.39 | Xinhuan | type of whispers? |
17:26.46 | Catreina | thats what I thought, except that I had trouble getting the players name |
17:26.48 | Catreina | yeah |
17:27.03 | Catreina | GemList is broken, and I dont like CraftList2 (sorry author).... |
17:27.18 | Xinhuan | vhaarr has a replacement addon for it |
17:27.20 | vhaarr | try my CraftyGnome |
17:27.23 | Xinhuan | you're in luck |
17:28.18 | Xinhuan | so, you should A) download it and view/learn from the code B) possibly even use it, so you don't have to write your own |
17:28.47 | Xinhuan | (still a good learning process though, since you said you want to learn ;p) |
17:28.52 | Catreina | one of the reasons I am writing this is because I dont want any other craftingskill cruft. JC and only JC |
17:28.55 | vhaarr | or c) commit directly to or branch craftygnome |
17:29.03 | vhaarr | Catreina: there's no cruft |
17:29.05 | vhaarr | look at the code |
17:29.09 | vhaarr | I wrote it because the other addons were insane |
17:29.11 | vhaarr | this one is clean |
17:29.15 | Xinhuan | you shouldn't say if there's cruft until you see the code |
17:29.30 | Catreina | I mean the !enchant !cook etc |
17:29.45 | SunTsu | .o0( CraftyGNOME - the name alone forbids using it ) |
17:29.49 | Catreina | I only want JC stuff |
17:29.53 | Catreina | LOL Sun |
17:30.02 | Xinhuan | the code is small, you don't get the point ;p |
17:30.13 | Xinhuan | supporting just JC uses as much code as supporting all professions |
17:30.20 | vhaarr | indeed there's no difference |
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17:30.38 | Catreina | Interesting |
17:30.41 | Xinhuan | because all professions use the same UI and the same API |
17:30.44 | Xinhuan | to retrieve info |
17:30.44 | Catreina | I am looking at the code already btw |
17:30.46 | vhaarr | yes so look at the code, then come back |
17:30.50 | Xinhuan | so supporting one supports it all already |
17:30.57 | Pneumatus | whoever populated the Grid2 forum appears to have been a bit heavyhanded and put a bunch of Grid/Grid Module threads in there |
17:31.23 | Xinhuan | adding stuff like !enchant and !cook is merely a more specific !craft query |
17:32.09 | Catreina | very interesting |
17:32.18 | Catreina | question while I look at this code |
17:32.30 | Catreina | does it support numerical arguments to stats? |
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17:32.37 | Catreina | like !gem Agi 25 |
17:32.48 | Xinhuan | if vhaarr did it right, it searches each keyword in the tooltip |
17:32.49 | Catreina | and ilevel, rarity, etc? |
17:32.50 | Xinhuan | so yes |
17:32.52 | vhaarr | it does a plaintext search of the tooltip |
17:33.29 | vhaarr | nothing more or less |
17:33.30 | Xinhuan | no, its just a text search of tooltip |
17:33.30 | Xinhuan | i'll consider ilvl, rarity, etc as cruft ;p |
17:33.30 | Catreina | lol |
17:33.35 | Catreina | so if I do a !gem Agi it will return every single Agility gem I can make |
17:33.40 | vhaarr | that's right |
17:33.58 | vhaarr | except the ones you put on ignore manually |
17:34.03 | Catreina | eww. =) See, what ... wait, what? |
17:34.11 | Xinhuan | but if you say !gem agi opal |
17:34.16 | Xinhuan | then it just returns twilight opals :) |
17:34.20 | vhaarr | indeed |
17:34.35 | Catreina | how about !gem agi purple ? |
17:34.38 | Catreina | lol |
17:34.41 | vhaarr | no |
17:34.44 | Xinhuan | won't work |
17:34.50 | Catreina | I know - not in the tooltip |
17:34.53 | Xinhuan | neither does gemlist or craftlist support "purple" either |
17:35.14 | EthanCentaurai | is convinced by vhaarr's sales pitch and downloads CraftyGnome |
17:35.38 | Xinhuan | EthanCentaurai: i seem to be doing most of it ;p |
17:35.47 | vhaarr | cheers |
17:35.51 | Catreina | but the one I am coding would. I wanted to make it as simple on the user as possible for default searches |
17:35.54 | vhaarr | at your sales effort, that is! |
17:36.17 | Xinhuan | then you can probably write your own to suit your exact needs :) |
17:36.17 | Catreina | like setting a default ilevel or 75 with a !gem agi would only return Agility gems with ilevel 75+ |
17:36.35 | vhaarr | yes well, now you have working, sane code to look at |
17:36.36 | AckisWork | where'd GDC being held? |
17:36.38 | Xinhuan | i doubt you will ever find an exact addon that has exactly what you want, no more, no less |
17:37.03 | Catreina | omg, and you use CTL. my my my. |
17:37.09 | Catreina | this is good indeed |
17:38.49 | Catreina | Going to check it out in-game |
17:39.01 | Catreina | but still going to code my own, even if just for fun |
17:39.22 | AckisWork | code an addon that will scratch my back for me |
17:39.40 | Catreina | I could but it would break the ToS =) |
17:39.49 | Repo | 10fubar_restfu: 03phyber 07master * v1.2-1-g54b70a3 RestFu.lua: [+2 commits] |
17:39.52 | Repo | 54b70a3: Fix bug related to deleting the last character from a realm. |
17:39.56 | Repo | c0c6c1c: Removing characters/realms finally works properly. |
17:40.08 | SunTsu | Catreina: it even would have to be dry coded to satisfy Ackis |
17:40.33 | AckisWork | ^ |
17:40.39 | AckisWork | my video card died |
17:40.45 | AckisWork | so everything will be dry-codeded |
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17:41.19 | Xinhuan | pours water on AckisWork |
17:42.03 | Repo | 10fubar_restfu: 03phyber 04v1.2.1 * 4094c2e /: [new tag] Tagigng as v1.2.1 |
17:42.07 | phyber | tagging fail. |
17:42.21 | Xinhuan | looks successful |
17:43.07 | phyber | well, spelling fail at least :) |
17:43.15 | Fisker- | pours hot water on AckisWork |
17:43.32 | AckisWork | wow Xinhuan gets me all wet and then Fisker- gets me all hot |
17:43.39 | Fisker- | >:3 |
17:43.50 | Gnarfoz | sets AckisWork on fire |
17:43.53 | Gnarfoz | now what. |
17:44.17 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz made me blow... up |
17:44.25 | pentium166 | AckisWork is smokin' hot |
17:44.31 | Gnarfoz | steamin'? :P |
17:45.08 | Gnarfoz | or well, he might even be smoking, hell if I know how long I had to put that torch to him to dry all that water Xinhuan and Fisker- drenched him in earlier |
17:45.08 | pentium166 | well, i figured he'd smoke longer than he'd steam after being set on fire |
17:47.08 | Catreina | weird |
17:47.14 | Catreina | how does CG work by default |
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17:47.40 | pompy1 | ~lart AckisWork |
17:47.40 | purl | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at AckisWork |
17:47.57 | Catreina | I am getting no results when doing a !gem spell |
17:48.02 | Catreina | and I know I have spell power gems |
17:48.16 | Xinhuan | !craft |
17:48.28 | Xinhuan | its not profession specific |
17:49.05 | Catreina | !gem spell |
17:49.21 | Catreina | cg: no results found for "power" |
17:49.37 | Xinhuan | have you opened your JC pane at least once? |
17:49.52 | Catreina | I have it open currently |
17:50.05 | Catreina | with a sp gem hovered and selected |
17:50.58 | Catreina | and !craft returns the ! commands (!jewel, !gem, etc) |
17:52.01 | SunTsu | .o0( AckisWork and Xinhuan go Coyote Ugly? ) |
17:52.13 | vhaarr | hrm, I made a commit to it some days ago without testing |
17:52.36 | Catreina | lol |
17:52.40 | Catreina | its all good |
17:52.56 | Catreina | I am learning quite a bit from the code - thanks for the heads up about it! |
17:54.25 | vhaarr | Catreina: well it's weird because it works fine here |
17:54.31 | vhaarr | I wiped my SVs and did a fresh checkout |
17:54.32 | vhaarr | works fine |
17:54.35 | Catreina | hmm |
17:54.53 | Xinhuan | do you have a copy of DBM 4.whatever beta for 3.1 installed? |
17:55.00 | Xinhuan | it hides all whispers if installed on live |
17:55.27 | vhaarr | or your own addon possibly stopping them |
17:55.31 | Catreina | no. I have addons installed but the only one active is CG |
17:56.00 | Catreina | everything else is turned off |
17:56.18 | vhaarr | did the same here, still works fine |
17:56.30 | Xinhuan | maybe 2 of you aren't using the same version ;p |
17:56.37 | Catreina | let me remove everything and start from scratch... one sec |
17:56.53 | vhaarr | Catreina: what did you download? |
17:56.59 | vhaarr | svn checkout? |
17:57.26 | Xinhuan | i don't think he knows how to use svn yet |
17:57.31 | Xinhuan | mentioned it about an hour ago |
17:57.31 | NivFreak | "Well, let's back this train up a bit. We currently have no intention of taking action against players who use or used pay-to-play UIs." |
17:57.32 | Catreina | she* |
17:57.35 | NivFreak | interesting |
17:58.03 | Catreina | this could be the issue with my copy: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8318-CraftyGnome.html |
17:58.06 | Pneumatus | linky plox |
17:58.12 | Catreina | 10/15/2008 |
17:58.16 | vhaarr | Catreina: that's old indeed |
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17:58.31 | vhaarr | Catreina: http://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/336/921/CraftyGnome-r59.zip |
17:58.52 | Catreina | was about to check wowace - thanks |
17:58.57 | AckisWork | Catreina: *it |
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17:59.40 | Pneumatus | NivFreak: source? |
18:00.38 | Catreina | *it? "Was about to check wowace" needs no *it =) |
18:01.53 | AckisWork | Catreina: was speaking about your sex |
18:01.56 | Catreina | lol |
18:02.06 | Catreina | sex ~= gender |
18:02.17 | AckisWork | same diff |
18:02.19 | Catreina | my sex is awesome. My gender is female =) |
18:02.23 | NivFreak | Pneumatus: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/15973488214-questhelper-classed-as-banable-after-31.html |
18:02.26 | AckisWork | sex == gender |
18:03.14 | Stanzilla | AckisWork == gay |
18:03.48 | pompy1 | agrees with Stanzilla |
18:03.59 | Catreina | lol |
18:04.36 | durcyn | just ignore Ackis, he's a colossal troll |
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18:05.03 | AckisWork | troll priest sup |
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18:06.05 | Catreina | vhaarr - it is working now |
18:06.08 | Catreina | thanks |
18:06.08 | vhaarr | cool |
18:06.17 | vhaarr | if you have any questions then just ask |
18:06.30 | Xinhuan | update your wowi copy ;p |
18:06.45 | vhaarr | yes I should do that >< |
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18:08.30 | AckisWork | imo tag it |
18:08.47 | Stanzilla | I knew he would say that |
18:08.56 | Fisker- | bans vhaarr |
18:09.06 | AckisWork | lol |
18:09.21 | NeoTron | Grr |
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18:21.39 | Catreina | where is TradeSkillFrame_Update from? |
18:26.36 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r483 / (3 files in 2 directories): Change GLYPHFRAME_OPEN event to USE_GLYPH |
18:26.39 | Repo | Register UIParent events back on disable. It's not supported, though. |
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18:27.18 | Catreina | vhaarr - what exactly would a fork of CG be? |
18:28.52 | NeoTron | NivFreak: iI wouldn't expec them to take action against users |
18:29.08 | NeoTron | it's the authors they want to hang and burn! |
18:29.13 | Catreina | basically a branch? I am new to the whole programming in a multi user environment thing =/ |
18:30.03 | Pneumatus | if they arent going to be banning users though, i wonder what grounds they would be able to take legal action, as it wouldnt be causing revenue loss from banned accounts for tort |
18:30.08 | Primer | Hrmm, I just found a bug in my addon. I setup an OnDragStart handler where I check if IsControlKeyDown() and I self:StartMoving(). Thing is, if I let go of control before I left go of the left mouse button, the OnStopDragging event never happens |
18:30.26 | Primer | s/left/let/ |
18:30.40 | Primer | and I can't "let go" of my frame |
18:31.08 | Primer | thoughts? |
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18:37.27 | vhaarr | Catreina: what do you want to change? |
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18:40.11 | vhaarr | Catreina: anyway I'm going to work just for 3-4 hours, so if you need me I'll be back later |
18:40.22 | vhaarr | any questions about forking or branching can be answered by lots of others in here |
18:40.31 | vhaarr | or revision control usage in general |
18:42.39 | Catreina | basically |
18:43.15 | Catreina | I think there is tons of awesome code in there, and quite concise. |
18:43.50 | AckisWork | vhaarr: 3-4 hours? but you didn't tag anything! |
18:44.05 | Catreina | I would like to use some of it in my own addon - which I want to be Ace3, have a GUI config, and be searchable on more options. |
18:44.55 | Catreina | I think that adding to your code or requesting features would probably not be efficient for CG itself. |
18:45.12 | Catreina | not efficient... dont know the correct word offhand |
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18:45.58 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 073.1 * 1.4.5-5-gc12976a HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Add drycoded PoM support for priests |
18:46.56 | AckisWork | omg nevcairiel tyvm |
18:47.08 | AckisWork | does hotcandy do PW:S? I can't rmemeber |
18:48.00 | Olison | cheers at drycode |
18:49.17 | nevcairiel | No, but it could |
18:49.34 | nevcairiel | since 3.1 anything is possible |
18:49.37 | nevcairiel | love new combatlog changes |
18:50.01 | AckisWork | do you feel PW:S should be in it? I'd love to see it |
18:50.15 | Catreina | combatlog changes in 3.1? |
18:50.27 | Catreina | Being a disc priest, I need to see these changes |
18:50.44 | nevcairiel | Well they mostly fixed SPELL_AURA_APPLIED and SPELL_AURA_REFRESH :) |
18:51.26 | Catreina | so still no amounts being shown on the PW:S and DA procs? |
18:51.33 | nevcairiel | PW:S has spellId 17, haha awesome |
18:52.01 | nevcairiel | It does actually show absorb amounts, always has. |
18:52.07 | nevcairiel | it just doesnt tell you which spell absorbed it |
18:52.45 | Catreina | ah yeah |
18:52.46 | nevcairiel | Also, i really can't understand peoples obsessions with healing meters, its just silly to measure it that way |
18:53.00 | Catreina | I dont care. People competing with me do. |
18:53.11 | Catreina | and sometimes guild management/leaders do |
18:53.16 | nevcairiel | Give a healer a task, if said "task" doesnt die, all is well |
18:53.23 | Catreina | lol, agreed |
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18:54.33 | nevcairiel | I'm an officer and raid leader, i would only questions a healer ability to heal based on the raw numbers if they are *really* low compared to another healer on a similar job |
18:54.43 | quiescens | its because everyone likes to think of healers as being assigned to the |
18:54.46 | nevcairiel | otherwise, as long as they don't run OOM, and their targets survive |
18:54.58 | quiescens | "don't let anyone die no matter how badly they screw up" task |
18:55.16 | nevcairiel | I stand in this fire, you heal me or you're a bad healer |
18:55.55 | Catreina | the thing about that is that as disc my healing meters will ALWAYS be significantly lower than other healers on similar tasks |
18:56.03 | Catreina | I prevent the damage, they heal it. =/ |
18:56.32 | nevcairiel | Yes, but i know that, and anyone trying to judge healing performance should, or shut up :) |
18:56.38 | Catreina | and some.... less informed GMs/RLs might not take that prevention/absorption nto account |
18:56.47 | quiescens | ultimately |
18:56.57 | quiescens | you can either tell them and have them understand |
18:57.03 | quiescens | or ignore it |
18:57.04 | Catreina | or leave =) |
18:57.06 | Catreina | lol |
18:57.31 | nevcairiel | We had this disc priest, who worried so much about his own healing meters position that he offered to go shadow, until i explained to him that its ok because i know how disc works |
18:57.38 | quiescens | or you leave because a raid leader that doesn't understand isn't a good sign |
18:58.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: insecure much? :P |
18:58.12 | Catreina | yeah, I tend to not even use recount anymore. I know my class, how to play it, and what to do/when to do it. I dont -need- meters to know that. |
18:58.35 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: well he was trial in that phase, i guess he was |
18:58.39 | Catreina | for something like this: |
18:58.39 | Catreina | local scanItem |
18:58.39 | Catreina | do |
18:58.44 | Catreina | ... code... |
18:58.45 | Catreina | end |
18:58.46 | Repo | 10talented: 03TrAsHeR * r484 Locales/frFR.lua: frFR update |
18:58.46 | nevcairiel | he is a real good healer though |
18:58.57 | Gnarfoz | Catreina: however, if you were using it, you could use the GuessedAbsorbs module to show them idiots how much damage you prevented :p |
18:59.03 | Catreina | does that make scanItem calls run the do code? |
18:59.11 | nevcairiel | Catreina: no |
18:59.21 | Catreina | so two separate distinct statements |
18:59.47 | Catreina | why a do..code..end statement outside of a function then? |
18:59.57 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1925 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
19:00.16 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/jclist/. JCList. Catreina (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
19:00.17 | nevcairiel | Its a new scope |
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19:00.33 | Catreina | Thanks Kael =) |
19:00.35 | nevcairiel | The author probably didn't want the local vars in this scope to leak to the file level scope |
19:00.39 | Fisker- | i'm raging |
19:00.42 | Catreina | AH |
19:00.49 | Catreina | now that makes sense |
19:00.52 | Catreina | thanks! |
19:01.05 | nevcairiel | I do that sometimes too, the scanItem is directly related to it, though |
19:01.29 | Catreina | there is a scanItem function inside that do..end block |
19:01.30 | nevcairiel | you declare a local var directly before the scope, then in the scope you reference it as a upvalue, but anything else you do stays in there |
19:01.44 | nevcairiel | so he has a new scope, but exports the scanItem function onto the file level scope |
19:02.06 | nevcairiel | its really not necessary to do, but it just feels cleaner, imho |
19:02.17 | nevcairiel | Its a replacement for static variables, really :) |
19:02.25 | nevcairiel | withotu resorting to file-globals |
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19:02.37 | nevcairiel | "upvalues", how we call them here |
19:02.51 | Primer | Which NR faction provides the tanking helm enchant? |
19:03.00 | nevcairiel | argent crusade, iirc |
19:03.04 | Primer | thanks |
19:03.10 | Vonhinten | yeah |
19:03.41 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 073.1 * 1.4.5-6-g4b7bc85 HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Add support for Power Word: Shield |
19:03.44 | Catreina | very interesting |
19:03.46 | nevcairiel | damn i forgot the drycode warning |
19:04.06 | durcyn | "This commit message sponsored by Ackis, Inc." |
19:04.10 | Catreina | lol |
19:04.31 | Catreina | ok, question about forking/branching |
19:04.43 | nevcairiel | I didn't even have a combatlog using PW:S in front of me, so i just assumed it worked like a HoT |
19:04.49 | Catreina | vhaarr said I could ask in here about it, so here goes =) |
19:05.26 | Catreina | CraftyGnome does alot of what I want JCList to do, but has no GUI (and isnt Ace3 from what I can tell) |
19:05.39 | AckisWork | wait? huh? what? |
19:06.08 | Catreina | its not coded with Ace3. it looks all raw Lua |
19:06.24 | Dashkal | Does this matter? |
19:06.32 | Catreina | it does for what I am about to ask... |
19:06.56 | nevcairiel | Yea it doesnt use any libraries |
19:07.08 | Catreina | it uses one (CTL) |
19:07.16 | nevcairiel | oh right, embeded |
19:07.17 | nevcairiel | i see it |
19:07.19 | Catreina | and only if it exists |
19:07.40 | Catreina | anyway, if I wanted to use CG as a base for what I want to do with JCList, would that be a fork, branch, etc? |
19:08.07 | nevcairiel | I guess that would be a fork |
19:08.16 | AckisWork | quit talking about food! i'm hungry |
19:08.17 | AckisWork | rawr |
19:08.44 | Catreina | but just using bits and bytes of the code would be blatant ripping? |
19:08.57 | AckisWork | look at his license |
19:09.00 | Axodious | AckisWork then you wouldn't want to hear that im going to the keg later to get a teriyaki strip loin followed by a vanilla bean cheesecake? |
19:09.02 | Dashkal | CraftyNome is GPLv2. Make sure you understand what that means |
19:09.04 | Dashkal | Gnome* |
19:09.08 | Catreina | He doesnt have one in the DL =( |
19:09.09 | Catreina | ah |
19:09.19 | durcyn | AckisWork: how do you feel about... sushi |
19:09.31 | AckisWork | durcyn: sushi is gross |
19:09.34 | AckisWork | Axodious: die |
19:09.34 | Fisker- | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
19:10.00 | Vonhinten | wtf, sushi is gross?! You must be getting shitty sushi |
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19:10.23 | AckisWork | never liked it |
19:10.26 | AckisWork | tried it once |
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19:10.31 | AckisWork | I like my food red meat |
19:10.38 | Hirsute-Home | My wife won't touch it, either. I love sushi, myself. |
19:11.06 | Vonhinten | I bet you'd eat a lightly seared raw tuna steak and like it |
19:11.22 | nevcairiel | Catreina: you could just ask him when he gets back, and i'm sure you can work something out with him. I'm sure he would allow you to take pieces from it, without thinking about the license. |
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19:12.09 | AckisWork | lightly seared => COOKED |
19:12.28 | Vonhinten | no, lightly seared puts about 1mm of crust on the raw tuna :) |
19:12.32 | Vonhinten | it's a texture thing, not cooking |
19:12.33 | Catreina | where the hell does TradeSkillFrame_Update() come from/located at? |
19:12.54 | AckisWork | ~framexml |
19:12.55 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
19:13.05 | durcyn | Catreina: Blizzard_TradeSkillUI |
19:13.24 | Catreina | why cant I find it in the WoW API page on wowiki? |
19:13.29 | AckisWork | Catreina: http://wowcompares.com/3099551/AddOns/Blizzard_TradeSkillUI/Blizzard_TradeSkillUI.lua |
19:13.38 | AckisWork | Catreina: it's not an API, it's part of the code |
19:13.49 | Catreina | blecht, newbie questions. =/ |
19:13.57 | AckisWork | nah tis ok |
19:14.24 | durcyn | are you kidding? that's the first helpful thing ackis has done all day. |
19:14.25 | durcyn | nm |
19:14.56 | AckisWork | I thought I did something earlier that was helpful? |
19:15.07 | nevcairiel | be helpful and test the hotcandy branch |
19:15.18 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: with what computer/ |
19:15.26 | nevcairiel | the one youre typing on! |
19:15.33 | AckisWork | it's a work PC |
19:15.36 | AckisWork | no wow |
19:15.39 | AckisWork | fuck no memory |
19:15.45 | AckisWork | I have enough trouble playing facebook games |
19:15.48 | nevcairiel | lol |
19:15.50 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: AckisWork's real name on IRC is funny |
19:16.23 | nevcairiel | he probably uses mibbit or something |
19:16.24 | AckisWork | eh? |
19:16.29 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: I do at work |
19:16.43 | AckisWork | @project curseforge |
19:16.44 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 346 days ago. Tickets: 169/1268 |
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19:25.03 | Catreina | what is _ ? like => local _, _, myVar = xxx |
19:25.26 | nevcairiel | its just a dummy var |
19:25.29 | nevcairiel | nothing special |
19:25.39 | nevcairiel | its kind of a "convention" to use _ for arguments you don't want |
19:25.41 | Catreina | ok, thanks for verifying that |
19:26.23 | durcyn | just don't forget to local it |
19:26.33 | durcyn | luac -l -p | grep SETGLOBAL is your friend |
19:27.03 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 073.1 * 1.4.5-7-g506ad06 HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Fix stack tracking of PoM when renewing an existing one. |
19:27.11 | nevcairiel | personally, i just use select |
19:27.15 | nevcairiel | except maybe in an OnUpdate |
19:27.40 | Vonhinten | personally I think it's better to give those _ actual names, and just not use them |
19:27.46 | nevcairiel | or that |
19:29.43 | nevcairiel | Now my changes to priests are even tested, yay |
19:35.35 | Primer | so, anyone have any ideas about my issue? repeating now |
19:35.50 | Primer | Hrmm, I just found a bug in my addon. I setup an OnDragStart handler where I check if IsControlKeyDown() and I self:StartMoving(). Thing is, if I let go of control before I left go of the left mouse button, the OnStopDragging event never happens |
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19:37.48 | NeoTron | so now I got a new an exciting ace gui bug |
19:38.10 | NeoTron | where buttons created with Create("Button") are out flying by themselves |
19:38.53 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/aceguibug.jpg |
19:39.19 | AckisWork | @project curseforge |
19:39.20 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 346 days ago. Tickets: 157/1268 |
19:39.27 | AckisWork | see I just dealt with 12 tickets :P |
19:39.29 | selckin | haha healing meter linker |
19:39.31 | ckknight | fun |
19:39.31 | selckin | nubbins |
19:39.41 | Vonhinten | Anyone ever talk with a dev about the hidden frames that are mysteriously still getting input? |
19:40.11 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/WoWScrnShot_032509_220845.jpg that is how it should work |
19:41.07 | NeoTron | last issue "similar" to this was lack of name in the widget causing issues with templates, but these are WoW widgets |
19:41.16 | Stanzilla | NeoTron: I want that belt! |
19:41.17 | NeoTron | and my drop down issue is the same - it was hidden but there |
19:42.37 | NeoTron | might have to drop AceGUI since I can't seem to get it to work |
19:42.53 | NeoTron | not sure why my shit is any different than what AceConfig does |
19:43.05 | NeoTron | except perhaps that I don't create/reelase the widgets between showings |
19:43.19 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 073.1 * 1.4.5-8-gdaf8f15 HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Add support for changing the height of the bars and fix changing the bar texture. |
19:43.48 | NeoTron | @describe hotcandy |
19:43.49 | Repo | NeoTron: http://www.wowace.com/projects/hotcandy/. HotCandy. HotCandy is a Heal-over-Time tracker designed for Druids, but it also supports other healing classes with HoTs, like Renew of Priests, or Riptide of Shamans. HotCandy was designed to be very simple... |
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19:44.22 | nevcairiel | I think it tracks the same number of priest buffs now <.< |
19:44.26 | nevcairiel | as druid hots |
19:44.33 | nevcairiel | except that priest stuff isnt really all hots |
19:45.08 | Stanzilla | should add PoM to the description..there is no really good PoM tracker out there :P |
19:45.31 | nevcairiel | yeah i need to update the description |
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19:46.13 | nevcairiel | I even added optional support for AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets without saying so in the commit message, woops |
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19:47.30 | Catreina | I like that DKP BidMaster window =) |
19:50.11 | NeoTron | Catreina: thanks. Now if it just worked consistently. :) |
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19:50.47 | nevcairiel | Hm |
19:50.51 | nevcairiel | this Draenei racial heal |
19:50.57 | nevcairiel | its no HoT in 3.1 anymore, right? |
19:51.06 | NeoTron | correct |
19:53.23 | nevcairiel | maybe i should support beacon of light too |
19:53.29 | NeoTron | mmm. bacon. |
19:53.31 | NeoTron | hungry |
19:53.44 | Stanzilla | is the herbalism HoT in? |
19:55.39 | nevcairiel | no |
19:55.47 | nevcairiel | but i kinda don't want to add it |
19:55.59 | selckin | anyone have ulduar combatlogs? |
19:56.26 | nevcairiel | There, updates my HotCandy project page |
19:56.31 | nevcairiel | *updated |
19:56.40 | selckin | @describe hotcandy |
19:56.41 | Repo | selckin: http://www.wowace.com/projects/hotcandy/. HotCandy. HotCandy is a Heal-over-Time tracker initialy designed for Druids, but has grown into a full HoT/Buff tracker for all healing classes. HotCandy was designed to be very simple and easy to use, with... |
19:56.42 | AckisWork | @project curseforge |
19:56.43 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 346 days ago. Tickets: 153/1268 |
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19:58.24 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: so magicdkp is totally amazing and stuff? |
19:58.52 | nevcairiel | its magic |
19:59.53 | Gnarfoz | we're planning on going back to DKP based loot distribution come 3.1, and I'm currently trying to evaluate our options regarding addons... trying to figure out what to use that can handle what our system implies |
20:00.35 | Vonhinten | epgp + epgp lootmaster is what we use |
20:00.56 | AckisWork | my knuckle is bruised :( |
20:01.02 | Vonhinten | I award points at the start of the raid for being on time, recurring every 15 minutes, and at the end of the night |
20:01.39 | AckisWork | you should award points for using ARL |
20:01.54 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 073.1 * 1.4.5-9-gf7030b8 HotCandy.lua: [+1 commit] Add support for Wild Growth and remove Gift of the Naaru as its no longer a HoT in 3.1 |
20:02.10 | AckisWork | wow nev way to spam us with commit notes :P |
20:02.39 | nevcairiel | screw you :P |
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20:02.56 | AckisWork | hehe |
20:03.03 | AckisWork | pay back is a bitch eh? |
20:03.53 | AckisWork | so anyways when I fucked up on thaddies |
20:03.56 | AckisWork | *thaddius |
20:03.57 | AckisWork | I got mad |
20:04.04 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: works for me |
20:04.06 | AckisWork | and ended up punching a hole in the wall |
20:04.14 | AckisWork | was fun |
20:04.17 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: what kind of dkp system do you have? |
20:04.27 | NeoTron | ...or would you use... |
20:05.07 | Repo | 10hotcandy: 03Nevcairiel 073.1 * 1.4.5-9-g181232c /: [forced -1 +1] Add support for Wild Growth and remove Gift of the Naaru as its no longer a HoT in 3.1 |
20:06.06 | NeoTron | MagicDKP Bidder is awesomesauce for the kind of bidding system I use, even if it's Work in Progress |
20:06.26 | nevcairiel | What do you use? :) |
20:06.45 | NeoTron | single, hidden bid |
20:06.51 | nevcairiel | thats what we use |
20:06.51 | NeoTron | winner pays 2nd highest bid +1 |
20:06.55 | nevcairiel | right |
20:06.56 | nevcairiel | same |
20:07.30 | nevcairiel | @project MagicDKP |
20:07.31 | Repo | nevcairiel: No project found that matches 'magicdkp' |
20:07.34 | nevcairiel | @project Magic-DKP |
20:07.35 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/magic-dkp/. MagicDKP. Game: WoW. dhedbor (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 1/2 |
20:08.00 | nevcairiel | needs screenshots, that are not bug reports =P |
20:08.12 | NeoTron | yep |
20:08.25 | NeoTron | I will fully admit I have not tried in any way to promote it |
20:08.26 | nevcairiel | but it sounds awesome |
20:08.35 | NeoTron | it's been a purely selfish project up until recently |
20:08.37 | nevcairiel | so it does automagic bid tracking and inserts the value into the export string? |
20:08.41 | nevcairiel | fully CTRT compatible? |
20:08.44 | NeoTron | yes |
20:08.52 | nevcairiel | i like |
20:08.56 | NeoTron | bid taking is new and still developed |
20:09.12 | nevcairiel | I could use Ulduar to implement the new system |
20:09.19 | NeoTron | there's a client that allows standby tracking (out of raid) and bidding but it's not required |
20:09.21 | nevcairiel | the automagic standby tracking sounds nice too |
20:09.38 | NeoTron | it lowers my overhead a lot |
20:09.45 | nevcairiel | I can simply tell people to get it or not get standby anymore |
20:09.51 | NeoTron | works wonders |
20:10.01 | Vonhinten | I can add standbys in EPGP too |
20:10.07 | nevcairiel | I'll test it on the next raid, i guess :) |
20:10.08 | durcyn | man, those curseforge mods will approve aything |
20:10.30 | NeoTron | I am planning on adding standby channel support (if you allow out of guild alts during raids) but not there yet |
20:10.35 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: man, this basically reads like you made magicdkp for our dkp system. xD |
20:10.40 | NeoTron | heh |
20:10.41 | Blime | We use HeadCount for our raid tracking needs, works really well for what it's worth. http://www.wowace.com/projects/head-count/ |
20:11.03 | NeoTron | Blime: ironically HeadCount was written the same time as MagicDKP and for the same reason... |
20:11.04 | Vonhinten | Only thing I don't like about EPGP is that it takes over our officer notes |
20:11.04 | nevcairiel | I've been using the updated CT_RT up until now |
20:11.12 | NeoTron | CT_RaidTracker failed in the 2.4 patch |
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20:11.20 | Gnarfoz | nah, CT_RT works fine in 3.0 even |
20:11.23 | Gnarfoz | (and did in 2.4) |
20:11.32 | NeoTron | it didn't properly log event |
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20:11.35 | Gnarfoz | mldkp.net version, obviously |
20:11.36 | NeoTron | I mean it was fixed |
20:11.39 | nevcairiel | it was broken for a while, i think |
20:11.40 | NeoTron | but initially it didn't |
20:11.53 | nevcairiel | but we didnt rely on event logging in that time |
20:11.57 | nevcairiel | only time logging |
20:12.09 | NeoTron | don't |
20:12.10 | NeoTron | oops |
20:12.16 | NeoTron | one think I don't really support atm |
20:12.19 | Gnarfoz | regardless, I'm anxious to ditch that old think |
20:12.25 | Gnarfoz | how the hell |
20:12.29 | Gnarfoz | did I just copy your typo |
20:12.30 | Gnarfoz | xD |
20:12.58 | Gnarfoz | reading while typing = brainfart, apparently |
20:13.14 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: can it simply produce one big log export over the whole evening, no splits or anything? |
20:13.17 | NeoTron | a writeup some user I didn't know I had did http://magicdkppluseqdkp.blogspot.com/ |
20:13.22 | NeoTron | yeah |
20:13.27 | NeoTron | in fact it can only produce that atm |
20:13.28 | nevcairiel | thats all i need |
20:13.41 | nevcairiel | the import script on our dkp system splits it into 1h segments |
20:13.43 | Vonhinten | Anyone else use a policy for loot no one wants to bid on? We allowed "designated offspec" rolls for people who we ask to switch to alts or specs, and for a while we were just DEing anything left... eventually we got a decent supply of shards and just started allowing offspec rolls with priority on designated offspecs |
20:13.57 | NeoTron | right now it has one event for the evening. I will add optional support to split by raid instance |
20:13.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah, all I need to, we just award overall dkp for the entire thing |
20:14.05 | Gnarfoz | *too |
20:14.15 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: as long as every raid-join and raid-leave is in the log, like CTRT does it, and not the first/last i saw on other loggers, all is good |
20:14.18 | NeoTron | Vonhinten: we have no minimum bid so people usually just bid 1 on stuff they might use |
20:14.18 | Gnarfoz | and that overall amount can be easily calucalted by hand |
20:14.46 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: ah no I don't do that unfortunately so it might not work straight out. Since I didn't need that functionality I didn't add it. would haev to look at it |
20:14.54 | NeoTron | to see how it's expected to be used.. |
20:14.58 | nevcairiel | ah |
20:15.16 | nevcairiel | the import script we use simply checks for those events and attributes the per-hour dkp on that |
20:15.18 | nevcairiel | works like a charm |
20:15.20 | NeoTron | I think I faked it in the export to have each join/leave right before/after each event or something |
20:16.17 | NeoTron | the ctrt export format is so annoyingly bad. |
20:16.24 | Gnarfoz | it is indeed |
20:16.25 | nevcairiel | invent a new one :) |
20:16.43 | Gnarfoz | eqdkp plus cms thingy however kind of requires it :< |
20:16.45 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: been meaning to but then I would have to invent my own importer too :P |
20:16.54 | nevcairiel | xml importing in php is so easy |
20:17.04 | Gnarfoz | and I'm not writing a new guild dkp/portal/stuff just because the CRTR format is annoying :P |
20:17.18 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: well you wouldn't have to. you could make a new import plugin |
20:17.35 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: using EQDKP-Plus? |
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20:17.51 | NeoTron | it's one of those "it works, so move on to the next thing" issues |
20:17.52 | Gnarfoz | hm, right I forgot EQdkp is not from the medieval ages, it's just not highly modern ^^ |
20:18.12 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: using... yeah, I guess so? xD |
20:18.16 | NeoTron | I think an actual export format for magicdkp could be A LOT more compact |
20:18.26 | NeoTron | and a lot less fucking stupuid |
20:18.33 | NeoTron | although a lot of the stupid is in the importer too |
20:18.36 | nevcairiel | the EQDKP-Plus guys just recently published a complete new importer plugin, with support for alternate formats |
20:18.44 | nevcairiel | but until now it only supports CTRT |
20:18.46 | NeoTron | doing text matching in CDATA fields vs using the actual field with pure data |
20:18.50 | nevcairiel | because noone suggested a format yet :) |
20:18.55 | NeoTron | oooh |
20:18.56 | NeoTron | ok |
20:19.06 | NeoTron | ...so I'll make a new export format for MagicDKP... |
20:19.22 | Gnarfoz | heh |
20:19.28 | nevcairiel | keep all joins/leaves as they occur! :p |
20:19.34 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I guess I'll dry-run magicdkp soon |
20:19.38 | Gnarfoz | WTF |
20:19.39 | NeoTron | I could add that yes |
20:19.54 | NeoTron | it's not like it's really hard to track |
20:20.01 | nevcairiel | indeed |
20:20.07 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: went to our guild page to check if there was a version string somewhere and noticed the teamspeak display... showing 20-odd something people in the default channel of whom I know: none |
20:20.15 | NeoTron | out of curiosity how do you do that with standby? |
20:20.22 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: lol |
20:20.40 | NeoTron | sit in the raid or tracked differently? |
20:20.42 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: up until now we manually added standby people on import, with tracking on paper with a pencil :p |
20:20.59 | NeoTron | can't really track join/leave if you're on standby |
20:21.17 | NeoTron | except perhaps counting any missed standby as a leave or something |
20:21.28 | nevcairiel | How does your standby tracker work? |
20:21.38 | nevcairiel | Just ask who is there on events? |
20:21.41 | NeoTron | on event (boss dead or manual) it sends an addon whisper message |
20:21.52 | Gnarfoz | in GUILD or in RAID? |
20:21.56 | NeoTron | GUILD |
20:22.03 | Gnarfoz | sweet. |
20:22.06 | NeoTron | raid is automatically added, no "are you there" check |
20:22.15 | NeoTron | but |
20:22.25 | nevcairiel | Can't those people kinda log on when they get online? and confirm every 30 min or so? |
20:22.25 | NeoTron | I think it'd be easy to add timed checks |
20:22.52 | NeoTron | it's not hard to add additional tracking. just nothing I needed |
20:22.57 | nevcairiel | timed checks would be nice for content you don#t kill |
20:23.08 | nevcairiel | like, ulduar wipe fests |
20:23.13 | NeoTron | just send a time check every X minutes and if they miss it, have them "leave" until the next time check they succee |
20:23.32 | NeoTron | we used to track wipes (/md wipe auto-tracks it) but stopped |
20:23.49 | NeoTron | I agree timed events might be useful as an alternative |
20:23.57 | nevcairiel | I guess our people log off all the time, and we would have to track it manually still, but thats no big deal |
20:23.57 | NeoTron | so I'll add it to my TODO |
20:24.08 | NeoTron | well |
20:24.13 | nevcairiel | having the bidding automated and all would still be awesome |
20:24.22 | NeoTron | if you want it can auto-track leave/join for people as they log on/off |
20:24.30 | NeoTron | as long as it's in-guild |
20:24.40 | NeoTron | right now you pick "raider ranks" and it only does standby to those |
20:24.42 | Gnarfoz | timed checks for standbys sounds really good |
20:24.49 | nevcairiel | I'm not really that worried about that |
20:24.52 | Gnarfoz | for progress |
20:25.08 | Fisker- | kisses Gnarfoz on the mouth |
20:25.16 | Gnarfoz | ~kiss |
20:25.21 | Gnarfoz | hmmmmmm |
20:25.24 | Gnarfoz | ~kiss Fisker- |
20:25.24 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give MoonWolf a big kiss on the hand |
20:25.27 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
20:25.31 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
20:25.32 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give ESL|2GD a big kiss on the hand |
20:25.36 | Fisker- | >:3 |
20:25.46 | NeoTron | another thing it does that needs some more tweaking is the network syncing, or specifically, network backups |
20:25.58 | nevcairiel | Also, let me know if you have a working export format, and i can write a parser for that EQDKP plugin |
20:26.01 | Catreina | so NeoTron - the screenshot you posted - the DKP stuff in there is MagicDKP? |
20:26.11 | NeoTron | yes, it's MagicDKP Bidder |
20:26.26 | Catreina | k - I am going to recommend my guild looks into that =) |
20:26.28 | NeoTron | http://magicdkppluseqdkp.blogspot.com/ has a few screenshots of the ui |
20:27.25 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: all of the MDKP UI uses AceConfig with some rather interesting custom widgets and it all works. The fricking bidder ui buttons that use AceGUI rarely (and randomly) fail. I don't get that part |
20:27.36 | Stanzilla | ""/in" is a function of the Quartz addon." < no? |
20:27.41 | durcyn | Stanzilla: Ace2 |
20:27.47 | nevcairiel | random is just fail |
20:27.49 | Stanzilla | yes but not quartz |
20:27.50 | Stanzilla | :P |
20:27.55 | nevcairiel | its in AceEvent-2.0, yea |
20:28.07 | NeoTron | and random is annoying as hell :P |
20:28.44 | Catreina | Neo - they are telling you there is a mis-credit in your linked page =) |
20:28.51 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: random bugs are ran... meh |
20:29.32 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: just don't get how it can happen, from looking at the code |
20:29.38 | NeoTron | Catreina: oh? |
20:30.05 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: probably how the widget was used before and something didnt reset properly |
20:30.15 | NeoTron | hmm... |
20:30.15 | nevcairiel | recycling etc |
20:30.16 | NeoTron | oh |
20:30.21 | NeoTron | so that might be it |
20:30.25 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it's apparently some raid doing naxx, wiping at Patchwerk. they have 6 druids, of whom 4 have (in this pull!) used their combat rezzes and another 4 have used their Innervates. all this at 40% boss hp. |
20:30.27 | NeoTron | I use a button someone else had used |
20:30.32 | NeoTron | and done something weird to |
20:30.39 | NeoTron | it's done before my ui is opened |
20:30.43 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: what? |
20:30.53 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: the 25 guys in our teamspeak default channel |
20:30.58 | nevcairiel | ah |
20:30.59 | nevcairiel | lol |
20:31.09 | Gnarfoz | they're all unregistered users, so they can't switch away from that channel. |
20:31.38 | Gnarfoz | hm. I thought I was evil and set that channel to speex 6.1kbit/s |
20:31.40 | nevcairiel | 25 random people without *one* of your guys abuse your teamspeak for a raid? |
20:31.42 | Gnarfoz | apparently, someone changed that |
20:31.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yep. |
20:31.53 | nevcairiel | we have our entrance channel on moderate |
20:31.54 | nevcairiel | haha |
20:31.57 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: still trying to figure out whose idea THAT was. |
20:32.24 | Gnarfoz | probably someone who had our TS info from being in a heroic pug |
20:32.52 | Vonhinten | Dunno why you use TS over Ventrilo |
20:32.59 | Gnarfoz | I'm NOT having that discussion, again :p |
20:33.02 | Vonhinten | Vent is waaaay more sophisticated |
20:33.19 | Gnarfoz | vent is waaaay more this, ts is waaay more that. just leave it. :p |
20:33.21 | nevcairiel | vent requires you to buy hosting |
20:33.29 | nevcairiel | thats enough for me :p |
20:33.31 | Gnarfoz | (that's one of the key points) |
20:33.53 | Matrix110 | Both fail because they dont have a buzzing filter integrated :P |
20:33.54 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ah. turns out one of our tanks was actually in the raid before but left, so they're stuck in that channel. he invited them over. ^^ |
20:34.02 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: mumble. :> |
20:34.10 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: figure out who their leader is and silently move him to another chan :) |
20:34.15 | NeoTron | lol |
20:34.20 | Matrix110 | That fails because its not popular :P |
20:34.47 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: I tried to use mumble and with 4 people - two on mac, two on windows, we couldn't get it to work |
20:34.53 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: indeed, the traditional IBM problem. it's the better solution but they can't be arsed to advertise it :D |
20:35.04 | nevcairiel | its open source |
20:35.07 | nevcairiel | they dont advertise |
20:35.08 | Gnarfoz | I know |
20:35.09 | NeoTron | I could hear two people, 3 people couldn't hear me but one person could and each of us had different people that we could hear and who could hear us |
20:35.24 | Gnarfoz | actually, I've seen a hosting company that offers mumble servers. :D |
20:35.28 | NeoTron | I gave it a serious try and it failed |
20:35.43 | Gnarfoz | and they're even offering them quite a lot cheaper than their Vent + TS servers, because no licensing fees apply |
20:35.46 | NeoTron | and what we did hear didn't sound very good anyway :P |
20:35.59 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: how long ago was that? |
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20:36.39 | Gnarfoz | sound quality being bad is also quite weird, seeing that they employ the same voice codecs, and Mumble uses more of the quality enhancing features |
20:37.10 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1614 RecipeDB (2 files in 1 directory): |
20:37.11 | NeoTron | last last year, Novermber I'd say |
20:37.14 | Repo | Add 3.1 tailoring stuff with acquire info for it... need to add text for acquire custom39 which is ulduar stuff. |
20:37.42 | NeoTron | if we had been able to actually use it (like hear eachother) we might have used it |
20:38.00 | Gnarfoz | heh, yeah, failing at *that* is kind of discouraging ^^ |
20:38.02 | Matrix110 | What I hate about Ventrilo is that its so "unmaintained" even though they get so much licensing costs |
20:38.21 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: well, TS 3.0 is still not out, either ;D |
20:38.21 | Vonhinten | Best place to farm frostweave cloth? |
20:38.46 | Gnarfoz | Vonhinten: some place where there's only level 75+ humanoid mobs, on a fast respawn, neutral if possible |
20:38.49 | Gnarfoz | :P |
20:39.00 | Matrix110 | well Gnarfoz thats true, but TS Client (Not the sound quality) is ALOT better than the Vent Client |
20:39.13 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: don't... start that discussion on IRC, please xD |
20:39.14 | nevcairiel | you get used to the quality |
20:39.26 | Matrix110 | Ive used both for 2+ years |
20:39.33 | Matrix110 | So I know them :P |
20:39.35 | nevcairiel | hold the discussion on TS, imho! |
20:39.57 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I was waiting for someone to abuse my line that way :p |
20:40.08 | Matrix110 | Registering Users von Vent compared to TS is a pain in the ass |
20:40.20 | Matrix110 | On TS you allow people regging themselves |
20:40.24 | durcyn | eh, not with templates in the user panel |
20:40.25 | Matrix110 | on Vent you have to do it yourself |
20:41.05 | Vonhinten | Compression filter, that's all I'm going to say. |
20:41.11 | Gnarfoz | see, apparently vent is more advanced in that regard (they have templates oO) but it's making it more complex in turn |
20:41.13 | Vonhinten | I win the arguement |
20:41.51 | nevcairiel | You won the internets! |
20:41.52 | Gnarfoz | Vonhinten: speex is speex, meh. would ts2 be in active development, they could easily add it. ts3 will use more of speex's feature set than Vent does, too, so you'll be switching to TS by that time :p |
20:42.13 | nevcairiel | Isnt TS3 like duke nukem forever now? |
20:42.15 | Gnarfoz | see, I can predict the future :D |
20:42.17 | Matrix110 | Yes |
20:42.19 | nevcairiel | How long can it take to write that thing |
20:42.21 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: kinda |
20:42.22 | Vonhinten | I'm talking about the compressor, for volume normalization |
20:42.22 | Matrix110 | its in development forever |
20:42.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: my bet is |
20:42.53 | Gnarfoz | they don't have the ts2 source |
20:42.54 | Gnarfoz | :P |
20:43.14 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
20:43.20 | Gnarfoz | basically ts2 has not changed since I've first seen it, in ANY way |
20:43.22 | Matrix110 | But TS3 is in Alpha testing already!!!! (for almost a year) |
20:43.33 | Gnarfoz | save really simple stuff that could probably be done by patching the binary |
20:43.57 | Gnarfoz | so if they're saying "ts3 will be a from-scratch rewrite" I guess they really mean it :D |
20:44.17 | Matrix110 | :D |
20:44.33 | nevcairiel | they released a set of fixes for the client and a security fix for the server soem day |
20:44.45 | Gnarfoz | anyway, the licensing terms are enough for me to stick with ts for the time being, or until I encounter someone in wow who asks me "do you have mumble?" |
20:44.52 | nevcairiel | the client was like alot smaller then the previous one |
20:45.00 | nevcairiel | don't think it was binary patched |
20:45.15 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: oh? didn't pay attention to file size actually, I'm half-jesting anyway :D |
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20:45.27 | nevcairiel | i notice unimportant stuff like that |
20:45.29 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: probably UPX'd it after patching it! |
20:45.30 | nevcairiel | and i even remember it |
20:45.30 | Gnarfoz | hahahaha :D |
20:47.37 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: so from what I can see the only two users of AceGUI directly in my addon directory is my own addon and Acheron. everything is AceGUI |
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20:52.39 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/curse-forge-wow-ace-and-the-future/ |
20:56.11 | nevcairiel | sometimes i really hate this "hi there, ckknight here" header, as if we don't see who the author is! |
20:56.13 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/111065 minor acegui patch. |
20:56.32 | ckknight | nevcairiel: eh, some people don't get it. |
20:56.40 | ckknight | nevcairiel: also, I start off all my posts that way |
20:56.44 | nevcairiel | i know |
20:56.47 | nevcairiel | thats what annoys me |
20:56.48 | nevcairiel | :P |
20:56.52 | ckknight | :P |
20:57.52 | Fisker- | btw ckknight |
20:57.56 | ckknight | yes? |
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20:58.02 | Fisker- | when is subscription status updated as far as CC is concerned? |
20:58.13 | Fisker- | never restarts the clients, winrar is me |
20:58.54 | nevcairiel | I think kaelten said people will remain premium for a little while longer |
20:59.06 | nevcairiel | but i could be talking out of my ass =P |
20:59.08 | Fisker- | yeah |
20:59.13 | Fisker- | But at some point it'll go |
20:59.20 | Kaelten | yep |
20:59.21 | Fisker- | And when that time comes i will not restart my client! |
20:59.21 | Fisker- | :D |
20:59.23 | ckknight | it periodically reauthenticates |
20:59.26 | Fisker- | wins |
20:59.26 | Fisker- | fu |
20:59.28 | nevcairiel | owned Fisker- |
20:59.28 | Fisker- | :( |
20:59.32 | Kaelten | yeah, leaving it open won't get you free premium |
20:59.34 | Fisker- | lost the game |
20:59.45 | Fisker- | and so did you guys right there |
20:59.48 | Kaelten | sorry fisker, this is what you get for bringing windows into an instance |
20:59.50 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: I'll just remote crash your win7 beta using ass |
20:59.58 | Fisker- | killrogg and Lanfire tried to escape it by unplugging their ethernets |
21:00.04 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz you can't |
21:00.10 | Gnarfoz | oh, but I can |
21:00.16 | Fisker- | oh but you can't! |
21:00.31 | Fisker- | brb |
21:00.39 | Gnarfoz | no u |
21:00.41 | Fisker- | if i come back with my computer shut down i'm blaming you |
21:01.13 | Gnarfoz | as long as you do that by mail, that's fine by me |
21:01.16 | Vonhinten | Have no fear, the UAC will save you! |
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21:04.13 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: uhm so, which addons would a raid member actually need to bid and be on standby with MagicDKP? (not both at the same time, obviously, but to be able to do both) MagicDKP_Client + MagicLooter? |
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21:04.23 | Gnarfoz | the description of _client kind of reads that way |
21:05.41 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 073.1 * 1.1.3-16-g1b6c43d / (4 files in 2 directories): [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
21:05.43 | Repo | 1b6c43d: Add InstanceMaps.lua to the babelfish script |
21:05.47 | Repo | c13b84c: Added support for showing custom floor names, currently only used in Naxxramas |
21:05.50 | Repo | e99fc25: Internal cleanup to datastructures |
21:05.52 | Repo | 77b1f81: Use a more conservative hooking that should not interfer with other addons |
21:05.58 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 073.1-instancemaps * /: [deleted] |
21:09.12 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: MagicDKP_Client is the only thing users need |
21:09.21 | NeoTron | he description isn't quite accurate |
21:09.36 | NeoTron | and the reference to MAgicLooter is, invalid now, still meant as the raid leader |
21:09.42 | NeoTron | s/as the/for the/ |
21:10.12 | NeoTron | I originally put bidding in a module DKPBidder in MagicLooter |
21:10.53 | NeoTron | but moved it to MagicDKP/Bidder (a module but not yet made standalone). MagicLooter isn't required but MagicLooter_LootMenu (XLootMenu replacement really), has a quick "start bid" option |
21:10.59 | NeoTron | rather than /md bid <itemlink> |
21:11.04 | NeoTron | yeah I need to document this |
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21:37.47 | durcyn | ffs. |
21:37.48 | Repo | 10digits: 03Satrina * r12 / (13 files in 4 directories): 1.0.3 import |
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21:41.42 | Kilroo1 | Hm. |
21:43.21 | Kilroo1 | should set up so that his backstab button switches his weapons when he uses it. |
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21:44.39 | Primer | Should I make a function variable for all functions used in my OnUpdate()? For example: IsControlKeyDown() ? |
21:45.28 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-77-gcda0ef1 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
21:45.32 | Repo | cda0ef1: Update the dump commands to be easier to use. |
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21:45.47 | Primer | sigh, I just can't figure this out |
21:46.08 | Primer | the OnDragStop never happens if I let go of control before letting go of the left mouse button |
21:46.28 | Primer | and my frame remains attached to the mouse until I /rl |
21:47.41 | Primer | crickets... |
21:47.47 | Catreina | hmm |
21:49.17 | Catreina | maybe you could set it up so that you force the drag to stop when the control key is let go? I dunno - newbie =/ |
21:49.51 | AckisWork | man I just had a nice nap here at work |
21:50.30 | durcyn | Primer: what's your actual OnDragStart script look like |
21:51.39 | Primer | durcyn: self:StartMoving() |
21:51.50 | Primer | that's all it has in it |
21:52.06 | durcyn | uh |
21:52.25 | Primer | in my OnUpdate I set theFrame:EnableMouse(1) and theFrame:SetMovable(1) |
21:52.47 | durcyn | you shouldn't need an OnUpdate with SetScript("OnDragStart",function() if IsCtrlKeyDown() then this:StartMoving() end end) |
21:53.07 | durcyn | is your frame inheriting any templates? |
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21:53.32 | Primer | well, I have a locking pref |
21:53.50 | durcyn | and did you RegisterForDrag |
21:53.58 | durcyn | EnableMouse, SetMovable etc |
21:54.20 | Primer | it's registered for drag, left mouse, yes |
21:54.29 | Primer | perhaps if I pasted the code |
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21:55.08 | durcyn | i blame your OnUpdate |
21:55.22 | ckknight | SFW: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1238190754111.jpg |
21:55.31 | Primer | so it should suffice to check everything in the OnDragStart? |
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21:55.42 | Torhal | ckknight: Wow |
21:55.43 | Primer | I have a pref that locks the frame |
21:55.59 | Primer | to prevent dragging when you have control down and drag over the frame |
21:56.07 | Primer | ok, I'll move everything to there |
21:56.29 | durcyn | just take out the onupdate and check if your OnDragStop ever fires |
21:58.05 | Primer | doing that now |
21:58.13 | AckisWork | ~ckknight++ |
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21:59.44 | Primer | ugh, /rl takes forever when you're swapping like mad |
22:00.34 | Kalroth | ckknight: <Zyla> http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20081216.gif |
22:01.00 | ckknight | lol, Kalroth |
22:01.05 | nevcairiel | lol |
22:01.20 | Kalroth | honest mistake! |
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22:04.03 | Primer | same effect |
22:04.21 | Primer | the frame remains attached to the mouse if I let go of control first |
22:05.13 | Primer | err |
22:05.23 | Primer | seems I made a mistake... |
22:05.24 | Primer | duh |
22:06.42 | Primer | ok, that worked. Thanks |
22:06.49 | Primer | plus it's one less thing in the OnUpdate! |
22:06.51 | Primer | heh |
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22:11.28 | Koben | Anyone know of an addon that can move the combat text overlay on the player frame? |
22:13.02 | Catreina | @project sctd |
22:13.04 | Repo | Catreina: http://www.wowace.com/projects/sct-damage/. SCT - Damage. Game: WoW. Grayhoof (Manager/Author), twobits (Maintainer). Updated: 160 days ago |
22:13.17 | Catreina | @project sct |
22:13.18 | Repo | Catreina: http://www.wowace.com/projects/scrolling-combat-text/. ScrollingCombatText. Game: WoW. Grayhoof (Manager/Author), twobits (Maintainer). Updated: 132 days ago. Tickets: 1/3 |
22:13.20 | Koben | That's scrolling combat text.. |
22:13.30 | Catreina | it moves the combat text overlay =) |
22:13.37 | Catreina | or rather, hides it if I recall |
22:13.46 | Catreina | then uses its own, yes? |
22:13.49 | Koben | I don't want to hide it. |
22:13.57 | nevcairiel | I think he means the combat feedback, the big numbers shown on the players face |
22:13.57 | Koben | I want to use it because I don't like my combat text to scroll. |
22:13.59 | Koben | IT's distracting. |
22:14.01 | Catreina | no clue then |
22:14.12 | Koben | Nev: Yes |
22:14.24 | Koben | Is that what it's called? Combat feedback? |
22:14.26 | Catreina | thats what I get being a noob and trying to help |
22:14.37 | Catreina | goes back to coding |
22:14.43 | nevcairiel | It probably wouldnt be hard to move it, but i don't know an addon that does |
22:15.25 | Catreina | as an aside, you can set sct/sctd to not scroll |
22:15.52 | Koben | The default combat feedback is more accurate and does everything I want it to do.. |
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22:18.22 | Gnarfoz | Koben: there is no way for it to be "more accurate" btw, but if it does what you want, that alone is the best reason to not use something else :P |
22:18.56 | Koben | Blizzard combat feedback will pick up spells that have wiffed due to immunity effects. |
22:19.07 | Koben | Nothing else does that |
22:19.11 | Arrowmaster | yes they do |
22:19.12 | Gnarfoz | have... what |
22:19.13 | Koben | That I know of, anyway. |
22:19.18 | Gnarfoz | ~dict wiffed |
22:19.25 | Arrowmaster | you just need to look closer at options |
22:19.52 | Gnarfoz | also since now it's starting to be not that clear anymore: wtf is "blizzard combat feedback" supposed to be |
22:20.07 | Koben | The damage numbers that appear over your face on the default player frame |
22:20.10 | Gnarfoz | Blizzard's Floating Combat Text solution (FCT), or the combat text on the player frame |
22:20.18 | Koben | Latter |
22:20.32 | Gnarfoz | all they do is +1234 and -1234 and block/immune/absorb/etc |
22:20.40 | Koben | yep |
22:20.49 | Koben | And I want to move that. |
22:21.25 | Gnarfoz | yes, I know, I'm also in the group of "don't know any addon that does that", however I'm also in the group "wtf are you talking about with that accuracy thing" :p |
22:22.08 | Koben | Like I said, it will pick up spells that have wiffed due to immunity effects, furthermore it already does everything I want it to do out of the box. It would actually be very difficult to configure something like parrot to duplicate it exactly. |
22:22.27 | Koben | Probably impossible on MSBT because it will force scrolling to an extent. |
22:23.33 | Gnarfoz | last time you said "wiffed" I tried purl to find a definition of that in whatever dictionary it uses. it failed. can you use another word? :P |
22:24.19 | Koben | An airborn spell that failed due to an immunity effect or a disappearing effect. |
22:24.25 | Catreina | if the combat log shows it, an addon will as well (unless the author missed something very obvious) |
22:24.26 | Gnarfoz | I have no clue what that's supposed to mean since you're either immune or aren't and furthermore combat log events represent what happens - and the blizz UI as well as addons act on the same events |
22:24.33 | Koben | A combat log doesn't showit. |
22:24.33 | Gnarfoz | Catreina: exactly |
22:24.45 | Catreina | SCT does quite well |
22:25.10 | Gnarfoz | and what *would* it show, since it obviously didn't hit you? |
22:25.11 | Catreina | take a fire mage and go attack some fire immune things with SCT and watch the "IMMUNE" fly |
22:25.26 | Koben | Gnarfoz: With Blizzard's combat feedback it comes up as 'Miss' |
22:25.33 | Koben | I like that, and it's very showy for making videos. |
22:25.43 | Catreina | Immune comes up as immune. Misses come up as Miss |
22:25.48 | Koben | Not the same thing. |
22:26.07 | Koben | Try shooting a death coil at a paladin and have him bubble before it connects, but after you've fired off the spell. |
22:26.08 | Catreina | Wrong - if something is immune, the default no-addon UI will show IMMUNE |
22:26.16 | Gnarfoz | they are indeed not the same thing, however, they're absolutely obvious to handle for addons |
22:26.20 | Koben | Catreina: Try it. |
22:26.22 | Gnarfoz | Catreina: that was pre 3.0 |
22:26.54 | Gnarfoz | he's right about it being a miss rather than immune, however, that shows up in the combat log or the Blizz UI wouldn't have anything to say EITHER |
22:26.55 | Koben | The death coil fired at the bubbled paladin will not appear in the combat log. |
22:26.58 | Catreina | Funny, with no addons I have hit things immune and seen IMMUNE pop |
22:27.00 | Gnarfoz | since it acts on the combat events. :P |
22:27.00 | Koben | It will be as if the spell simply disappeared. |
22:27.19 | Koben | Only Blizzard Combat feedback picks it up, that I know of. |
22:27.23 | Gnarfoz | Koben: it will appear to C_L_E_U |
22:27.29 | Koben | what |
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22:27.38 | Gnarfoz | yeah, you don't know what you're talking about apparently :p |
22:27.45 | Gnarfoz | COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
22:28.09 | Koben | Don't scrolling combat text addons operate off unfiltered combat log in the first place? |
22:28.11 | Gnarfoz | the event any addon interested in stuff like this would use to get its input |
22:28.19 | Gnarfoz | that's EXACTLY what the event name implies. |
22:28.28 | Koben | ..but it doesn't appear in any of them. |
22:28.30 | Gnarfoz | and that's also why this should show up in them, too. |
22:28.35 | Koben | It doesn't. |
22:28.40 | Gnarfoz | well, /combatlog |
22:28.44 | Gnarfoz | report line to author |
22:28.46 | Gnarfoz | :D |
22:28.49 | Gnarfoz | if that's really the case. |
22:28.54 | Catreina | if it shows up in Blizz default, it will show up elsewhere |
22:28.56 | Koben | It doesn't appear, it's a bug in the game. |
22:29.02 | Catreina | if it doesnt, thats a bug for blizzard |
22:29.02 | Gnarfoz | quite likely not |
22:29.10 | Gnarfoz | since the blizz UI gets its events from there as well |
22:29.20 | Catreina | simply put, if the blizz UI shows it, it IS in the combat log. |
22:29.36 | Gnarfoz | yep. that however doesn't mean addons handle this fringe case properly. |
22:29.53 | Gnarfoz | could be a weird SPELL_IMMUNE flag that needs proper hand-holding or whatnot |
22:30.09 | Catreina | but all he wants is a frame mover for whatever that overlay is. |
22:30.13 | Gnarfoz | or DAMAGE_SPLIT, DEFLECT or any other of the rare events |
22:30.17 | Gnarfoz | Catreina: I'm aware |
22:30.21 | Koben | Again, no scrolling combat text addons display it. |
22:30.27 | Koben | If they're capable of doing so, they don't. |
22:30.33 | Koben | even if* |
22:30.44 | Gnarfoz | the data is obviously there, is all I'm saying |
22:31.00 | nevcairiel | I'm pretty sure i saw alot of immune messages in MSBT |
22:31.05 | nevcairiel | but anyway |
22:31.07 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: read the whole thing |
22:31.14 | Gnarfoz | it's not about generally immune mobs |
22:31.30 | Koben | It's about failed spells |
22:31.34 | Gnarfoz | whyever that distinction would have to be made, anyway |
22:31.41 | Koben | It's showy for videos. |
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22:31.48 | Gnarfoz | ? |
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22:32.02 | Koben | Showy.. flashy. |
22:32.03 | Gnarfoz | you're not getting what I'm saying |
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22:32.55 | vhaarr | Catreina: so what's up |
22:32.59 | Koben | Then what are you saying? |
22:33.15 | Gnarfoz | why would there be a distinction between the normal SPELL_IMMUNE thing which obviously works since everyone has seen it and the case where the target goes immune while a missile is already in flight |
22:33.35 | Gnarfoz | because both cases need only one evaluate the outcome once: when the missile hits the target |
22:33.42 | Catreina | I am just coding the addon myself using hints from CG, GemList, CraftList2, etc |
22:33.53 | Gnarfoz | s/one// |
22:33.57 | vhaarr | alright |
22:34.18 | Koben | And I'm telling you I don't know why. |
22:34.20 | Catreina | I like how concise your code is... and its practically self-documenting |
22:34.25 | vhaarr | thanks |
22:34.47 | vhaarr | if there's something you don't understand then just ask |
22:35.10 | Catreina | with the database population, I got hints about what functions to use from your code, and took your comment to heart... |
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22:35.23 | Koben | I'm just saying, only the blizzard combat feedback picks it up for some reason, I've experimented with other addons before by paying a warlock gold to shoot shadowbolts at me whenever my ice block was up. |
22:35.26 | Gnarfoz | Koben: wasn't suggesting that you know - just curious, like I initially said: "I don't have what you seek, but this other thing here is interesting" :P |
22:35.26 | vhaarr | the comment is old, and I'm not sure the tradeoff is worth it |
22:35.52 | Catreina | but the DB is going to be a bit bigger as I am going to save all the data I need to search on in the db. Likely a performance hit for it, but I am so new I dont know how big a hit it might be |
22:36.00 | Gnarfoz | Koben: well, having /combatlog on during that would have made the gold worth even more, but I guess I'll go and try to reproduce it :P |
22:36.19 | Koben | Already was on. |
22:36.31 | Gnarfoz | do you have the log somewhere? |
22:36.38 | Gnarfoz | or rather, just the interesting line(s)? |
22:36.48 | Catreina | and the data will be saved per itemID (just the numerical ID, not that whole string) |
22:36.58 | Gnarfoz | anything that could explain this would be in that line ^^ |
22:37.10 | Koben | There wasn't any line. |
22:37.19 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
22:37.20 | vhaarr | Catreina: I have changes for that locally, but I haven't committed it because I'm not sure it's worth it |
22:38.03 | Koben | If I get the time I'll do a video of it with the unfiltered combat log going. But right now I'm trying to put together a new interface.. |
22:38.12 | Koben | I was hoping to have the blizzard combat feedback in the middle of the screen since I liked it.. |
22:38.22 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
22:38.27 | Catreina | facepalms |
22:38.51 | Gnarfoz | how would you go and have "the unfiltered combatlog going" in that video? |
22:39.04 | Koben | By not having any filters on it..? |
22:39.33 | Catreina | and showing the combatlog window? |
22:39.44 | Koben | yes..? |
22:39.49 | Gnarfoz | that's not what /combatlog does |
22:39.52 | Catreina | lol |
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22:40.21 | Catreina | /combatlog logs combat log data to a file |
22:40.27 | Gnarfoz | /combatlog turns on the dumping of the raw combatlog data to WoW\Logs\WoWCombatLog.txt |
22:40.29 | Catreina | called WowCombatLog.txt IIRC |
22:40.33 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
22:40.39 | Koben | Somethign tells me we're talking about two different kinds of unfiltered. |
22:40.43 | Catreina | LOL |
22:40.44 | Gnarfoz | yes, indeed |
22:40.46 | Catreina | dies |
22:40.56 | Gnarfoz | that's why I referred to C_L_E_U earlier. |
22:40.57 | Koben | You do know the combat log in the game has filters right? |
22:41.04 | Catreina | that would be C_L_E_U |
22:41.11 | Koben | So when you say unfiltered, I assumed the obvious. |
22:41.18 | Catreina | and /combatlog is raw output |
22:41.32 | Gnarfoz | since you're in #wowace, OBVIOUSLY the obvious thing is something different than you think :D |
22:41.33 | Koben | i.e. unfiltered would mean the combat log without the filters on it. |
22:41.47 | Gnarfoz | there is not display ingame for what /combatlog spits out ;) |
22:42.11 | Gnarfoz | 3/25 19:18:01.781 SPELL_DAMAGE,0x0000000001D694B4,"Enkido",0x512,0xF130003E91012B4A,"Patchwork Golem",0xa48,51460,"Necrosis",0x20,238,0,32,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil |
22:42.15 | Gnarfoz | is what a line from that looks like |
22:42.16 | Koben | Why don't you just call it the raw combat log then? |
22:42.18 | Catreina | vhaarr: I seem to have added a bug into my code =) |
22:42.34 | vhaarr | Catreina: paste away |
22:42.40 | Catreina | the gui options wont show up now |
22:42.45 | Gnarfoz | I'm calling it this because the event is named like that by Blizzard |
22:43.07 | Catreina | and I have CTRL+Z back long before any change that could have broken it =( |
22:43.07 | Gnarfoz | and there is no specific name for "Blizzard_CombatLog addon without any filters enabled" ;) |
22:43.12 | Gnarfoz | anyway |
22:43.14 | Catreina | lol |
22:43.36 | Gnarfoz | I'll go find some caster and bubble while he's casting from 40y away :> |
22:43.43 | vhaarr | Catreina: if you had a repository on wowace, you could be committing to it as you went and I could check it out realtime |
22:43.47 | Gnarfoz | actually, I'll go log in first, but I guess that's a prerequisite :D |
22:43.53 | vhaarr | Catreina: or on any other source hosting place |
22:44.03 | Catreina | http://paste.wowace.com/398/ |
22:44.41 | Catreina | Meh, I dont even want to upload anything until I have at least a working base. |
22:44.42 | Gnarfoz | Koben: no offense intended btw, since this channel is mainly frequented by addon devs, assumptions about apparently not so obvious things differed ;) |
22:44.52 | Koben | Right |
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22:45.39 | Koben | I'm trying to put together a minimalistic interface that isn't terrible for pvp. Blizzard's Combat feedback fits that profile very well. |
22:46.05 | Gnarfoz | I guess so |
22:46.28 | Gnarfoz | alternative unitframe addons allow custom placement of that text btw, but those are out of the question I guess? |
22:46.30 | vhaarr | Catreina: your InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory call is wrong |
22:46.37 | vhaarr | as far as I can see |
22:46.45 | Koben | Gnarfoz: No, they're not. |
22:46.51 | Koben | What addons do so? |
22:46.53 | vhaarr | Catreina: seems you're calling it with the frame reference, just call it with "JCList" |
22:47.13 | Vonhinten | LOL http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&vid=ec55f88c-2bf9-4483-b18e-3451987ab19b |
22:47.16 | Gnarfoz | actually wait, that placement is restricted to the unitframe, I guess |
22:47.38 | vhaarr | Catreina: although, perhaps both should work, I've never tried invoking it with the frame reference before; I just *know* that invoking with the name works |
22:47.59 | Koben | Bleh. |
22:48.03 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: can you move the combat text text (heh) outside of the frame? as far out as to make it sit in the middle of the screen while the frame is... further away, quite probably on at least one of the same x or y-axis'? |
22:48.13 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: with pb4 that is |
22:48.29 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: you gotta attach it to the frame somehow |
22:48.50 | ckknight | that can be off the frame a bit |
22:48.51 | Gnarfoz | boils down to "can I offset it from the frame really far"? |
22:48.51 | Koben | Couldn't it still be attached with a hyooge offset? |
22:48.54 | ckknight | say, if you position it above |
22:48.54 | Catreina | that code hasnt changed at all, and was pulled directly from wowace (or wowwiki) =/ |
22:49.02 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: not to my knowledge |
22:49.18 | Gnarfoz | yeah, like anchor it to top edge and then have an y-offset of -500? ^^ |
22:49.19 | Gnarfoz | hm. |
22:49.27 | vhaarr | Catreina: try it anyway, and if it doesn't work there's some other error before it; do you have bugsack or similar installed? |
22:49.39 | Catreina | but with that said, the call could be done JCLis.optionsFrame? |
22:49.45 | Catreina | minus the typo |
22:49.52 | vhaarr | yes it could, but it makes no difference |
22:49.55 | vhaarr | self == JCList |
22:50.05 | Koben | Would it be possible to hide all the other elements of the player frame? |
22:50.06 | Catreina | yeah |
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22:52.40 | Catreina | it must be something in the options table, as everything else seems to still be working |
22:52.54 | vhaarr | do you have a bug grabber addon? |
22:53.38 | Catreina | yeah, but not currently active |
22:53.48 | vhaarr | it might help to activate it then |
22:53.54 | Catreina | question: Can this: func = function() JCList:ManualScan() end, be done as func = JCList:ManualScan(), |
22:54.00 | vhaarr | no |
22:54.12 | vhaarr | but it can be done as |func = "ManualScan",| |
22:54.31 | vhaarr | since |handler| is set in the options table |
22:54.34 | Catreina | because the handler is ... yeah |
22:54.58 | Catreina | what about the parsequery? |
22:55.03 | vhaarr | there are plenty other review comments I could give on this piece of code |
22:55.11 | vhaarr | but you should focus on getting it working first and foremost |
22:55.41 | Catreina | lawls |
22:55.42 | Catreina | [2009/03/27 18:54:20-873-x1]: JCList-0.1\JCList.lua:165: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 164) near '=' |
22:55.45 | vhaarr | heh :p |
22:56.02 | Koben | I guess if there's no way to hide the rest of the player frame other than combat feedback, or move the combat feedback around, I'm boned. Catreina, you said SCT can display damage and such without any text movement or text stacking? |
22:56.21 | vhaarr | Catreina: are you using a english locale? |
22:56.22 | Catreina | I knew I should have had something running for that at the start, but I thought the default errors would be caught without it |
22:56.26 | Catreina | yes |
22:56.50 | Catreina | I want to make sure that it can be translated, which is why I have the locale stuff from the start |
22:56.57 | vhaarr | you need to encapsulate the UNCOMMON, RARE and EPIC references, like [UNCOMMON] = ... |
22:57.35 | Catreina | forgetting commas can suck. |
22:57.44 | Catreina | You mean in the table? Let me update the code, one sec |
22:57.57 | vhaarr | in the |rarity| option |
22:58.36 | nevcairiel | no you don't |
22:58.41 | vhaarr | yeah you do |
22:59.02 | nevcairiel | well ok, it depends how you use it |
22:59.04 | vhaarr | there's no guarantee that other locales have single words for those, or that they don't contain stuff like ' |
22:59.29 | Catreina | I didnt before, but those are the keys not the values, keys that I created, no? |
22:59.29 | nevcairiel | The way its used you'll simply get a table with "UNCOMMON" as the key |
22:59.44 | vhaarr | ah right, my mistake |
22:59.58 | Catreina | and I was looking into changing that to use the values instead (0-7) |
23:00.00 | nevcairiel | if UNCOMMON were a variable you want replaced |
23:00.03 | vhaarr | if you put [] around them, you'll get the translation value, which I just assumed was what you wanted |
23:00.06 | nevcairiel | you would use [UNCOMMON] |
23:00.14 | vhaarr | right |
23:00.18 | vhaarr | I assumed that's what he wanted |
23:00.43 | nevcairiel | are there even global strings for the item qualitys? |
23:00.47 | vhaarr | Catreina: in any case, is the option frame working? |
23:00.53 | vhaarr | no |
23:01.01 | Catreina | ueah |
23:01.01 | vhaarr | or, yes, but not those words, I think |
23:01.17 | vhaarr | they're like ITEMQUALITY_1 or something |
23:01.19 | Catreina | it was me missing commas in that same table (cause I changed the table) |
23:01.21 | nevcairiel | ah |
23:01.25 | vhaarr | I don't remember, I have them in the GroupFu code somewhere |
23:02.07 | Catreina | cant edit after a little while |
23:02.17 | Catreina | the paste? |
23:02.32 | nevcairiel | just post a follow up |
23:02.33 | Catreina | I was just going to use the numbers themselves |
23:02.34 | vhaarr | I have no idea, on pastey.net you can edit |
23:02.52 | nevcairiel | yeah but only 5 minutes, after that it posts a follow up |
23:02.58 | vhaarr | really, you sure? |
23:02.59 | nevcairiel | but whats the difference :) |
23:03.20 | vhaarr | I was sure I had edited something long after on pastey, but no, it doesn't matter :P |
23:03.33 | nevcairiel | "(you may repost over your last pastey for up to 5 minutes)." |
23:03.47 | Catreina | http://paste.wowace.com/399/ |
23:03.49 | vhaarr | then it probably posted a followup without me noticing |
23:03.56 | vhaarr | Catreina: what's wrong now? |
23:04.05 | Catreina | this is the code that is currently working, with the changes I had made |
23:04.12 | vhaarr | well we don't need to see working code :p |
23:04.16 | Catreina | lol |
23:04.19 | vhaarr | if we do, we'll just tab to our own editors :P |
23:04.30 | nevcairiel | I dont have working code |
23:04.30 | Catreina | I am having issues with the database population |
23:04.54 | nevcairiel | I broke something and i don't know why <.< |
23:06.34 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: your code is on social support? |
23:07.11 | vhaarr | Catreina: what issues? |
23:07.46 | Catreina | well, let me get this pizza ordered first |
23:09.25 | Kalroth | mmm, pizza |
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23:10.50 | Catreina | Kalroth: about the SCT yes, but you have to configure it as such |
23:11.20 | Kalroth | What? I wanted pizza, not a random SCT comment! |
23:11.28 | Catreina | lol |
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23:13.02 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm * r18 / (2 files in 1 directory): Broker_Itemlist |
23:13.05 | Repo | -fixed .pkgmeta for libqtip |
23:15.00 | Catreina | ok: Method ManualScan() doesn't exist in handler for type func |
23:15.31 | vhaarr | yeah that's not what I said |
23:15.39 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> no |
23:15.39 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> but it can be done as |func = "ManualScan",| |
23:15.39 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> since |handler| is set in the options table |
23:15.44 | vhaarr | note the lack of () |
23:15.50 | Catreina | ah |
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23:16.10 | Catreina | <== suffers from a lack of attention to detail |
23:16.47 | Kalroth | shuts up. |
23:16.50 | Catreina | what about the one prior to that, where arguments need to be passed? I have to use the function() functionName(args) end method right? |
23:16.51 | Kalroth | :P |
23:17.08 | vhaarr | Catreina: yes |
23:17.10 | Catreina | k |
23:17.12 | vhaarr | at least for now |
23:18.31 | Catreina | ok, so heres the deal. When I first run the gui config, and click on "Rescan" with "autoscan" toggled on, it runs through the scan itself 3x |
23:19.01 | Catreina | every time thereafter, it only goes through once (whether auto is on or not) |
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23:19.38 | Catreina | when I do the same with autoscan turned off, it only runs it once as well |
23:22.34 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm 04v1.61 * r19 : Tagging as v1.61 |
23:23.17 | vhaarr | Catreina: yeah because TRADE_SKILL_UPDATE is fired more than once |
23:23.33 | vhaarr | probably |
23:23.48 | Catreina | how so? It only does that on the first run after a /rl |
23:24.21 | vhaarr | yeah so the even probably triggers more than once then, it's easy to test, just add a |print("lolwut")| at the start of the event handler |
23:24.29 | vhaarr | if I'm wrong, then I'll take another look |
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23:24.34 | vhaarr | event* |
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23:29.36 | Catreina | yeah |
23:29.37 | Catreina | function JCList:TRADE_SKILL_UPDATE(eventName, ...) |
23:29.37 | Catreina | JCList:Print("per vhaarr - lolwut??"); |
23:29.48 | Catreina | == start of each printout |
23:30.01 | Catreina | but the funny thing is, why is it being updated 3 times? |
23:30.08 | Catreina | on first open? |
23:30.18 | NeoTron | events are funny thing |
23:31.02 | Catreina | I am noticing |
23:31.27 | Catreina | thats the only time it fires x 3, and ONLY when I do a manual scan with auto scan on (which should only open the JC frame) |
23:31.51 | Catreina | and on top of that, only the first time |
23:32.03 | Arrowmaster | because not all the items are in your local cache |
23:32.33 | Catreina | how are they not? I am the jewelcrafter who makes em! lol |
23:32.37 | Arrowmaster | so it asks the server or them and you get an update event every time info for an item is sent |
23:33.02 | Arrowmaster | so you reloaded and it fires 3 times again the first time you open it? |
23:33.31 | Catreina | yes |
23:33.45 | Catreina | I open the JC pane (through my button or the spellbook) and the event fires 3 times |
23:34.17 | Catreina | but if I turn off autoscan, and open it with the spellbook its fine and doesnt fire |
23:34.24 | Catreina | same thing with the scan button |
23:34.30 | Arrowmaster | autoscan? |
23:35.16 | Arrowmaster | does the jewelcrafting list have things in different headers with the +/- button next to it? |
23:35.29 | Catreina | I have an autoscan toggle that will automatically scan the JC recipes when the JC frame opens. The buttonn in the GUI checks that toggle and either opens the JC frame if it is on, or calls the manual scanning routine if it is not |
23:35.39 | Catreina | yes, but they are always expanded |
23:35.52 | Arrowmaster | how many are there? im guessing 3 |
23:36.06 | Catreina | 12 or 13 |
23:36.12 | Arrowmaster | that many headers? |
23:36.19 | Catreina | Purple, red, blue, yellow, etc |
23:36.19 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
23:36.44 | Arrowmaster | well toggling one of those headers will trigger a trade_skill_update event afaik |
23:36.53 | Arrowmaster | did you try this without any other addons? |
23:37.35 | Catreina | until I started using buggrabber and fubar, yes |
23:37.40 | Catreina | and it did it then too |
23:37.53 | vhaarr | I don't understand why you scan on _UPDATE, simply scan automatically on _SHOW and don't have any options for it at all |
23:38.12 | vhaarr | _UPDATE will fire irregularly, you'll just have to throttle it if you want to use _UPDATE |
23:38.31 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: scanning on _show would probably cause issues if all the items arent in the local cache |
23:38.34 | Catreina | My thought on this instead of _SHOW was to capture new designs without needing to reopen the frame |
23:38.42 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: nah, works fine for craftygnome |
23:39.03 | vhaarr | Catreina: go by the CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM for learning a new spell |
23:39.10 | vhaarr | and a dirty flag |
23:39.21 | Catreina | a what? |
23:39.26 | Catreina | I am not dirty! |
23:39.34 | vhaarr | well I am, so here's what you do |
23:39.43 | Catreina | well, maybe I am, but that's neither here nor there! |
23:39.57 | vhaarr | function JCList:CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM(_, msg) if msg:find(rxToDetectNewSpell) then dirty = true end end |
23:40.08 | vhaarr | and then in _SHOW() if dirty then scan() end end |
23:40.23 | vhaarr | unless it's the first _SHOW, that is |
23:40.29 | vhaarr | then you scan regardless |
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23:55.24 | Catreina | is the only way to tell if an item is BoP to scan the tooltip? |
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23:57.44 | taleden | so "curse wiki" page markup is deprecated now? what's the closest replacement? |
23:59.27 | NeoTron | Catreina: ah yes the FUN of scanning tooltips! |