IRC log for #wowace on 20090324

00:00.45StanzillaElsia: http://pastey.net/110809
00:01.18NeoTronVonhintenHOME`: why?
00:01.26NeoTronthat is a silly thing to say
00:03.00Primerwhat flask x2 thing?
00:03.05HjalteSo basically "everyone" gets 4hr flasks now (2+2), yes?
00:03.14Primerfrom what?
00:03.24PrimerI have an alchemist...I know that toon gets it
00:03.37Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r1037 Tracker.lua: - Fixing error from nil details.
00:03.45HjaltePrimer:     * All flasks recipes will now create 2 flasks for the same amount of ingredients.
00:03.46ElsiaStanzilla; thanks fixed now I hope
00:04.09Primerdoes that mean an elixir spec'd alch can get x10 ?
00:04.11Odlawdoes that mean procs no longer happen?
00:04.19HjaltePrimer: But looks like it doesnt last 4 hrs anymore for alchs
00:04.22Anaralx2lol, Primer probably not.
00:04.30Primerthat's fucking cheap
00:05.28NeoTronHjalte: sure, but every alchemist now get 8 hours, 4+4, per "flask"
00:05.57HjalteNeoTron: according to wotlkwiki, they don't:     * Flasks/Elixirs - Now make double for the same amount of reagents, but durations cut in half.
00:06.25VonhintenHOME`what the hell
00:06.27HjalteBut I'm having some trouble deciphering it. I'd think however, that it is only regarding the alch time bonus
00:06.37NeoTronah I see
00:06.46NeoTronall flasks are now 1 hour (2 hour for alchemists)
00:06.59NeoTronso in the end there's no change except that you can use flasks on shorted raids without wasting
00:07.02NeoTronthat's good
00:07.07HjalteI suppose that makes sense as well.
00:07.17NeoTronmeans an alchemist doesn't waste a 4 hour flask when you just raid 2 hours
00:07.25VonhintenHOME`They better change them to stack to 10 at least
00:07.27NivFreakoh wtf
00:07.30NivFreakno shit
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00:07.33Stew_aAt what point after logon can I call JoinChannelByName so it works and joins etc
00:07.34VonhintenHOME`fucking 5 stacks should be banned
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00:07.53NeoTronVonhintenHOME`: good point
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00:10.49Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r58 / (2 files in 1 directory): Optional attendance checks
00:11.25Anaralx2NeoTron: what's the point of the flask then? If it's only an hour, might as well use elixirs... unless you know you're going to be dieing a lot.
00:11.37NivFreakbecause they persist
00:11.55NivFreakI use elixirs on farm content, and flasks on progression
00:12.01NivFreakto save gold
00:12.09NeoTronAnaralx2: also most elixirs, for dps, are not as good as a flask
00:12.33NeoTronoh one thing with this cahgne
00:12.42NeoTronall existing flasks will suddently be half as good
00:12.46NeoTronwonder if they plan to fix that
00:12.47NivFreakfor a tank, I'd say elixirs are better
00:13.01NivFreakmostly because the tank flask is shitty
00:15.21Anaralx2Exactly NivFreak
00:15.35NivFreakthey buffed it in 3.1
00:15.39NivFreakbut it's still not that interesting
00:15.49NivFreakit should be 1000 health, or more
00:15.55NivFreakand mixed with some other stats
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00:17.32VonhintenHOME`yeah, they fucked the tank flask up, even when "fixing" it
00:17.50NivFreakI mean we went from 500 health and 10 defense to 650 health
00:17.50NivFreakwtf?
00:17.54NivFreakwith 10 levels
00:18.03NivFreakand my health is more than double what it was in TBC
00:18.04Repo10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r41 ClassDefaults.lua: Added priest defaults contributed by brotherhobbes.
00:18.08NivFreakwell
00:18.15NivFreakI guess not more, but close to double
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00:23.28Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r50 / (2 files in 1 directory): MorgBid2
00:23.31Repo-couple locale fixes for intermixing of english/nonenglish clients
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00:27.39Repo10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm 04v3.74 * r51 : Tagging as v3.74
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00:44.09Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r1038 / (3 files in 1 directory):
00:44.12Repo- Fix detailed table reuse (hopefully for good). This reverts the 0->nil change for number types but now 0 counts won't be added to details instead.
00:45.01KilrooNeed to read better
00:45.04Primeraww, I was just abou to complain about recount
00:45.16KilrooI was about to ask what the addon "Elsia" did
00:45.27KilrooThen I realized that wasn't the name of the addon
00:45.29KilrooHdurr.
00:46.23Primerheh
00:46.45Groktar|laptopthe Magnificent demands your obedience!
00:51.16Repo10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm * r16 / (2 files in 1 directory): Broker_Itemlist
00:51.19Repo-added currency scanning to automatically add currencies you have
00:51.21Repo-don't show tooltip if not tracking anything
01:05.33Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r59 / (2 files in 1 directory): Optional loot announce
01:12.55VonhintenHOME`These 2.5" SSD's come with conversion kits for 3.5" mounting?
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01:23.54Repo10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm 04v1.6 * r17 : Tagging as v1.6
01:27.06Xinhuanwhe
01:27.10Xinhuanwhew
01:27.10Xinhuanhttp://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/15864309119-new-ptr-build-paladin-changes.html
01:27.19Xinhuanthat crusader strike change won't go thru
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01:58.53Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r60 options.lua: announce loot option placement change
02:02.49Odlawomfg.. my guild is retarded.. failed at spore loser.. someone had to use mirror images.
02:03.49Odlawnot exactly important.. but highlights our retards.
02:04.41HjalteOdlaw: Maybe it's a mage problem. One of ours decided to just switch to a spore and kill it last time we tried :)
02:09.55Odlawhe 'missclicked' his hotkey
02:14.12Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r45 / (2 files in 1 directory): Version 1.98
02:15.32Repo10vendorsearch: 03adriweb 04v1.98 * r46 : Tagging as v1.98
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02:29.56HjalteDamn. I just realised I missed all the loot from KT in my tracker from our Naxxramas run. I hate it when people are disconnecting.
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02:41.38OdlawI hate unannounced afks too
02:41.44Codealphahow do i acess the curseforge svn?
02:41.56ckknightwith svn.
02:42.21Codealphai have tortoise svn
02:42.31Codealphagetting a repo not found
02:42.41ckknightgotta tell me the real message
02:43.11Codealphacan't connect to host svn.curseforge.com or .net
02:43.36ckknightwhat url?
02:43.37Odlaw.com
02:43.49ckknightno
02:43.53ckknightwell, that's wrong
02:43.54ckknightbut
02:43.59Codealphaim using svn://svn.curseforge.com
02:44.02ckknightwhat svn url
02:44.03ckknight?
02:44.04ckknightthat's wrong.
02:44.06ckknightit's .net
02:44.12ckknightwhat repo url?
02:44.14ckknightthe full one.
02:44.28Odlawoops :)
02:44.45Codealphasvn://svn.curseforge.net/wow/
02:44.50ckknightwrong
02:44.58ckknightyou need a project
02:45.03ckknightand a repository name
02:45.34Aiianelolwhat
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02:45.34Aiianesomeone trying to create carbonite as a project on CF
02:45.34ckknightAiiane: it's "lol wut"
02:45.38Aiianeno
02:45.39Aiianein this case
02:45.49AiianeI was literally lol'ing and going "what" at the same time
02:45.50Codealphackknight: how do i get that info?
02:46.06ckknightwhat project are you trying to check out?
02:46.07Codealphai'm trying to get the beta from assesement
02:46.12ckknightokay
02:46.29ckknightso you'd go to http://www.wowace.com/projects/assessment/repositories/mainline/
02:46.40ckknightthus showing you svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/assessment/mainline/trunk
02:47.40Codealphaah ok i get it now
02:47.41Codealphathanks
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02:51.28SumpinFishyHmmm...not sure where to start, trying to get some help on PB4 and provide some feedback.  Is forums the best place? or here? or ticket?
02:52.20SqueeGDo you think there's like... an official Forum Trolling guild out there
02:52.25SqueeGor.. Union
02:55.03VonhintenHOME`So, say I got an 80GB Intel SSD... how long could I expect it to work before it fails (in SSD style.. too many writes per NAND)
02:59.14ckknightSumpinFishy: ticket
02:59.20ckknightSumpinFishy: it's the best way I'll see it
02:59.28ckknightgot a question
02:59.41ckknightwhich is the most awesome/funnest clothie?
03:00.14VonhintenHOME`I haven't tried them all, but I like playing my mage... arcane currently, interesting mana management
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03:00.36SumpinFishyThanks, will do
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03:10.16CodealphaVonhintenHOME`: as long as you defrag like a normal drive its fine
03:10.31VonhintenHOME`supposed to not defrag these things
03:10.37Codealphayou can
03:10.57VonhintenHOME`you can, but it's pointless, and just increases writes for nothing
03:11.11VonhintenHOME`should do its own defragging internally
03:12.31Codealphai use hyperfast by diskeeper and let it run in the background
03:12.40Codealphanoticed a mess in internal space with it disabled
03:13.04Codealphai have an ocz120gb
03:13.13SqueeGSSD's currently have like a 10 year life or something?
03:13.19Codealphadont know about intel
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03:13.36VonhintenHOME`According to Intel, 5 year minimum usage, assuming 20GB daily writes
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03:13.41SqueeGDammit, why can i never recall the useless information that i look up when i actually need it
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03:13.51VonhintenHOME`more than that it kicks in Endurance Management features
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03:13.59VonhintenHOME`whatever the fuck that means
03:14.47Codealphai am just using the drive for games at the moment
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03:15.00VonhintenHOME`yeah, that's all I'd use it for... main partition
03:15.02Codealphawill install windows7 beta to give it a whirl
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03:15.17VonhintenHOME`I'm just worried that having a page file, etc on it will shorten its life
03:15.27Codealphai love the fact that wow instantly loads after a HS
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03:17.05Codealphayou will not see any improvement with fps thats for sure
03:18.27Odlawanyone know any mods that can track/guess internal cooldowns of trinkets/etc?
03:18.39VonhintenHOME`no, but I will see less studder walking around, and my load times.. I run like 60 addons
03:18.49VonhintenHOME`will love to shrink that down to 10 sec or less
03:18.58Codealphaloading is instant
03:19.38Codealphadalaran after a hearthstone
03:19.38Codealphano more black shadows waiting to load
03:20.17CodealphaVonhintenHOME`: this is a good article
03:20.18Codealphahttp://forums.slizone.com/index.php?showtopic=29361
03:20.38Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r61 / (4 files in 1 directory): configurable timers
03:20.48VonhintenHOME`I read that article already
03:21.34SqueeGlmao
03:21.51SqueeGthere's a wee little program to watch my tax filing status :p
03:23.42CodealphaOdlaw: i dont know if power auras tracks internal cooldowns of trinkets
03:24.57Odlawok
03:25.23Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r62 / (3 files in 1 directory): options layout and you can't bid less than 1
03:26.37Codealphaaccoring to the description it does
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03:33.25Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r63 / (2 files in 1 directory): number formats
03:38.36Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r64 options.lua: Josua hates disabling options when trackloot is off.
03:41.59Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont 04v0.4 beta * r65 :
03:42.02RepoImplementing some requested features by other users of the mod.
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03:52.31Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r66 options.lua: I don't care what josua says, i like them disabled.
03:59.39Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r67 options.lua: josua's ballchin is legend.
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04:25.57Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r68 options.lua: Options page ui changes
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05:02.59falconindyAnyone familiar with LibBars? I'm stuck trying to figure out how to cancel a timer in the middle of it ticking down
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05:17.04Repo10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r73 / (7 files in 2 directories): Red background for undercuts on "Show My Auctions".
05:17.07RepoAllow zero buyout.
05:17.10RepoMore tooltip code cleanup.
05:17.13RepoConfig dialog cleanup.
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05:37.29AntiarcTekkub: Heh, I just saw that you forked jrails.
05:37.44Tekkubyea
05:37.48Tekkubsilly jrails
05:37.58AntiarcI just fixed it for 1.9, so \o/
05:38.21TekkubI forget what it was I had to fix in it
05:38.40Tekkuboh, forgery tokens and fragment caching
05:39.00Tekkubwe were caching ajax links with tokens in them, so when the user got a new session everything went to shit
05:39.09AntiarcHeh, fun
05:39.11Tekkubthey started getting 401 auth denied for everything
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05:51.17Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r112 / (5 files in 3 directories): - Added loot distribution dialogs.
05:51.20Repo- Split DKP Bidder config into sub sections.
05:51.23Repo- Added option to disable/enable MagicDKP Client and whisper bidding support (you can not use one or both)
05:51.26Repo- Redid some localized strings in preparation to use the localization system.
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06:12.18Repo10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r17 / (4 files in 3 directories): - Minor config ui changes.
06:12.21Repo- Removed accidental duplicates of two functions.
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06:30.33Repo10volumizer: 03Torhal * r25 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added SavedVariables to .toc
06:30.36RepoRemoved trailing "s" from the Sound_EnableAllSound CVar.
06:30.39RepoAdded ability to select presets volume levels and toggles, with an option to reset to default values.
06:30.42RepoTemporarily added "Solo" and "Raid" presets until I code user-defined presets.
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06:50.50Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r113 / (12 files in 3 directories): - Moved to using wowace localization system.
06:51.21dieckhi there. has anyone seen the stats of the 3.1 legendary yet?
06:51.32Neebler`http://kotaku.com/5181300/onlive-makes-pc-upgrades-extinct-lets-you-play-crysis-on-your-tv
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06:55.56Fisker-No.
06:56.37Fisker-it'll fail
06:56.39Fisker-no doubt about it
06:57.44sb|workCRY
06:57.45sb|workQQQQQ
06:57.50sb|workdivine hymn nerfbat :o
06:59.41nevcairielbah i need someone on the ptr to test my new fun with raidframes and vehicles
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07:02.12Hjaltenevcairiel: You're on the german ptr servers?
07:02.31nevcairielI have chars on frodring and remulos
07:02.36nevcairiel*fordring
07:02.43HjalteYou fail, I'm on Brill :)
07:03.46nevcairielI wish i could invite my own char into raid =P
07:04.01Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r114 Locales (8 files in 1 directory): Fixed help typo.
07:04.27Fisker-Hjalte you can create characters on a server :O
07:04.34Fisker-lets do it and harass nevcairiel
07:04.43nevcairielas long as i get a raid group out of it
07:07.29HjalteThat's me by the way.
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07:13.09Fisker-madness
07:13.13Fisker-Warhammer ad on wowhed
07:13.17Fisker-wowhead*
07:15.21Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r115 Bidder/Bidder.lua: - Fixed possible vanishing distribution buttons.
07:15.28NeoTronweird just had another case of missing Ace3 widgets
07:15.34NeoTronwonder why the heck I have that issue
07:15.57Fisker-so nevcairiel you still need halp?
07:16.07nevcairielnah
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07:19.57nevcairielits working, yay
07:20.05nevcairielfunctional vehicle switch for raid frames =)
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07:26.54sb|worknevcairiel: uhm..
07:27.01sb|workso raid frames for vehicles?
07:27.10NeoTronnice
07:27.16nevcairielRaid Frames can now seitch to the vehicle when a player enters one
07:27.20NeoTronso now we do't need stupid pet frames for vehicles
07:27.22sb|workoh, cool
07:27.22nevcairielso you can see HP and target them
07:27.30nevcairielwithout extra frames
07:27.31sb|workyou patched that in sRF?
07:27.34NeoTronnow what happens if they enter a passenger slot?
07:27.36sb|workthats cool :)
07:27.49sb|workNeoTron: i think its a sperate vehicle unit
07:27.53nevcairielNeoTron: you still target them, i reckon. It all works on UnitHasVehicleUI
07:27.54sb|workyou also have different HP and stuff
07:28.11NeoTroncool for Malygos
07:28.11nevcairielsb|work: there are passenger slots that can still cast their own shit
07:28.13sb|work(thats how it works in flame leviathan fight at least)
07:28.26nevcairieland have their own HP
07:28.28sb|worknevcairiel: yeah, but they also have their own hp
07:28.30nevcairielbut are not targeted at all
07:28.31sb|workthats what i said! :P
07:28.35NeoTronnice for flame leviathan too ofc to see riad status
07:28.37sb|workoh hm :)
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07:28.51NeoTronbut less critial since you can't heal there anyway
07:28.58sb|workso this donation button, is it gone from addons only or also from wowace/cf?
07:29.01NeoTronand can't pick who tanks :P
07:29.07nevcairielsb|work: only ingame
07:29.10nevcairielis gone
07:29.28sb|workoh, there is no donation button on wowace :p
07:29.38nevcairielYou can set one up
07:29.59nevcairielhahaha awesome
07:30.02nevcairieli went afk on the PTR
07:30.05nevcairieland something awesoem happend
07:30.07NeoTronso nevcairiel ever had any reports of AceGUI elements becoming, and staying, hidden?
07:30.34nevcairielfor some reason i learned all the spells from my second spec
07:30.37NeoTronseems a bit odd that I've seen it in two different situations now (and I can't reproduce it so no clue why)
07:30.43nevcairielso now i'm a resto druid with Mangle
07:30.50NeoTronhot
07:33.27nevcairielI wonder what happens with the code on 3.0
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07:45.35NeoTronso I'm pretty sure Mimiron is the 4th person you don't actually kill
07:45.46Repo10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r74 / (3 files in 1 directory): Quick fix to undercuts.
07:45.49RepoBumped version number to 1.0.
07:45.51NeoTronsince everything references "the keepers of ulduar" and he's one of the 4
07:46.36digmouseShirt of Uber woot
07:46.56Repo10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r636 sRaidFrames.lua:
07:46.59RepoSupport for the 3.1 vehicle enhancements introduced in build 9722. This will allow you to target the raid members vehicles using the default raid frames, as well as showing the vehicles HP and Power.
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07:50.11NeoTronaha here's Mimiron's death: "It would appear that I made a slight miscalculation. I allowed my mind to be corrupted by that fiend in the prison! Over-riding my primary directive. All systems seem to be functional now. Clear. "
07:51.40Repo10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg 04v1.0 * r75 : Tagging as v1.0
07:51.43Repo- GetSellValue and GetAuctionBuyout
07:51.46Repo- Miscellaneous cleanup and bug fixes
07:52.14Torhalnevcairiel: Two weeks after I got sick of sraidframes deficiencies, you resurrect and improve it instead of slapping Antiarc around over his dropdown code. :)
07:52.28nevcairielso?
07:52.29nevcairiel:)
07:52.32TorhalHeh
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07:56.15nevcairiel!api GetItemInfo
07:56.15lua_botDocumentation for 'GetItemInfo' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemInfo
07:57.32sb|workwoaaah *sigh*
07:57.56sb|worknevcairiel: discussion about legendary is getting worse... %-) we no have an open discussion
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07:58.27sb|workand people are (mostly) like "just giev it to him" (=me), except some are "but whwats with shadowpriests???" (well.. ignore them)
07:58.46sb|workand no my gf is crying why people only want to give it to me and not to her.. *siigh* :p
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07:59.08sb|work(the legendary... stop thinking other stuff...)
07:59.29nevcairiellol
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07:59.57nevcairieltoday is flame leviathan, perfect for testing my sRF changes
08:00.01sb|workhehe yup
08:00.24nevcairielI tested with the wyrmrest daily so far
08:00.30nevcairielit works for my frame =P
08:04.54sb|workbut i still dont know whats causing this border around my screen in combat ;p
08:05.31nevcairieldid you try devtools and frame stack?
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08:08.08sb|workno, just tried that mouseover getmousefocus(?) macro
08:08.10sb|workand doesnt work
08:08.33nevcairielbecause they are not mouse-enabled
08:08.50sb|workso devtools would work here?
08:08.54sb|workwill try later
08:08.57nevcairielyea
08:09.02nevcairielexcept if the frame doesn't have a name
08:09.04sb|work(7h work to go... :o)
08:09.10nevcairielthen it shows "table: xxxxxx"
08:09.14nevcairiel(not helpful)
08:18.06Fisker-giev screenshots nevcairiel
08:18.08Fisker-or i hate you
08:21.08kadrahilnevcairiel, poke
08:21.12nevcairiel?
08:21.23kadrahilany chance of bt4 bars snapping both vertically and horizontally?
08:21.28kadrahilif you get what i'm saying
08:21.36nevcairielthey should
08:21.42kadrahilwell
08:21.47kadrahilthe last few versions i've tried this
08:22.06kadrahilif i move a bar ontop of another one, it snaps, then when i align them horizontally, say with the center of the screen
08:22.12kadrahilit unsnaps the vertical alignment
08:22.16kadrahiland i have to eyeball it
08:22.22kadrahili think i'm confusing myself now
08:22.30nevcairielif you have one bar placed somewhere, and move a second bar on top of it, it should snap to fit exactly on top of it, both vertically and horizontally
08:22.39kadrahilright
08:22.44kadrahilit should, but it never has worked that way for me
08:23.11kadrahilgonna give it another shot again just to prove to myself
08:23.13kadrahilthat i'm nto stupid.
08:23.17kadrahilnot*
08:23.28nevcairielIf you start moving the first bar, you have to snap the second bar again, it won't move together with it
08:23.37kadrahilyeah
08:24.19nevcairielI want to add UI options to manually adjust the positon, that way you could just make sure the numbers are the same for both bars
08:24.25nevcairielif snapping fails
08:25.04kadrahili wonder if i could fraps this
08:25.21Fisker-cries
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08:27.54Fisker-also nevcairiel giev screenshot :(
08:28.04nevcairielof what?
08:28.06kadrahilnevcairiel, just figured this out - if they're snapped to the center of the screen, that's when the vertical snapping unsaps if it snaps horizontally
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08:28.12Fisker-of that feature in bartender you talked about :o
08:28.28nevcairielthey can snap to the center of the screen?
08:28.30kadrahilnevcairiel, if i move a bar to some random place on my screen and try snapping another bar to it both directions it works perfectly
08:28.33nevcairielcurious.
08:28.39kadrahilyes
08:28.45nevcairieli never intended that :D
08:28.47kadrahilthey snap horizontally in the center
08:28.48kadrahilhaha
08:28.54kadrahilit is rather nice to have
08:29.12kadrahilholding shift to drag it into vertical position isn't really a problem
08:29.14Fisker-that vehicle stuff nevcairiel
08:29.19kadrahilit's just something i thought i'd bring up
08:29.39nevcairielthe snapping stuff makes me mad :/
08:29.58kadrahildo you at least get what i was trying to describe?
08:30.02nevcairielyea
08:30.10kadrahilshort of me compressing and uploading this 750mb fraps video i just took
08:30.11kadrahilok
08:30.35nevcairielI wonder if i can improve on that
08:31.17kadrahilthey will actually snap to the center of teh screen both horizontally and vertically
08:33.17selckinlike trying to line up bt4 bars all on the left of the screen, they snap to the screen, but not to each other top/bottom, really annoying
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08:37.20Natherulhey all, i got a bit of problem with the ingame calendar as i get this error: http://paste.wowace.com/378/     anyonne care to help me figure out why?
08:37.54nevcairielI'm going to takea bet and blame ShowDKP
08:38.18orionshockanyone finish filtering though all the Bullshit in the New Policy thread on the blizzard forums?
08:38.32nevcairielthere isn't much to filter out
08:38.38nevcairielits all alot of BS and hate
08:38.38Natherulok, im gonna disable it <nevcairiel> and see if i dont get the error then
08:39.01orionshocknevcairiel: was 90% of the useful information in the first 20 or so pages?
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08:41.26Repo10menotes: 03malikibala * r3 AceGUI-3.0/: Project was abandoned.
08:42.57Natherulnavacairiel: i still get an error, lot smaller now though: [09:42:09] ...rface\AddOns\Blizzard_Calendar\Blizzard_Calendar.lua:882: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
08:43.30nevcairieli dunno then
08:43.54Natherulnever seen that type of eror before?
08:44.37nevcairielit looks like some addon causes an internal array to break down
08:44.48nevcairieldo you have any addons that work with the calendar?
08:46.25Natherulnot that i know of
08:47.05Natherulif you want u can get a list of all my addons but i doubt that will help you very much
08:47.28orionshockNatherul: what addon is "ShowDKP" in?
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08:47.50Natherulwhat u mean in?
08:48.04orionshocklook at the stack trace, it drops in to an addon called "ShowDKP"
08:48.17orionshocki don't see it as a project on wowace... didn't check curse
08:48.30Natherulwell it is on curse
08:49.15Natherulits an addon that tells my members of my guild what dkp they have when they /w me
08:51.28Repo10menotes: 03malikibala * r4 / (23 files in 9 directories): Organizing directory structure
08:53.22Repo10menotes: 03malikibala * r5 Libs (35 files in 6 directories): Ace3 libs added
08:53.23nevcairielsomehow i think he fails
08:54.12orionshockNatherul: try doing this "/dump issecurevariable("CalendarEventGetInvite")"
08:54.19orionshockor  /dump issecurevariable("CalendarEventGetInvite")
08:54.30orionshock^^ w/o the start & end quotes
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08:58.06orionshockBliz_Calendar.lua:883 -- MFS HACK: doing this because we don't have class names in global strings
08:58.09orionshocklol
08:58.12Natherulorion that did not work
08:58.37orionshocktry /run print(issecurevariable("CalendarEventGetInvite") )
08:58.46orionshocksome people don't have a /dump >.>
08:59.30Natherulsame issue
08:59.46orionshockcase sensitive
08:59.53Natherulyeah i cpoied it
08:59.59Natherul*copied
09:00.16orionshockit should put "1 nil" into the chat frame
09:01.01Natherulyeah that it did but i still got the error in the calendar
09:01.17orionshockthat was the idea, it wasn't ment to fix but to troubleshoot
09:01.38orionshockwhat that means, the "1 nil" is that that function isn't being hooked..
09:01.44Natherulaha
09:01.58Natheruland any idea on how to fix or what made it like that?
09:02.13orionshockwell what you have there is a good old fasion blizzard bug
09:02.26orionshockunload all your mods and then reproduce the problem
09:02.42orionshockyou should get a nice red message box in the middle of your screen
09:02.46orionshockthen go post on the BugForums
09:03.01Fisker-Doesn't the calendar support signups now?
09:03.19orionshockFisker-: PTR or live?
09:03.23Fisker-PTR
09:03.47orionshockwould be nice, but that would be a big thing.. so prolly not
09:04.00Fisker-hmm
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09:04.10Fisker-i thought they mentioned something like that on the ui forums
09:04.59Natherulyeah orion, that is the [09:42:09] ...rface\AddOns\Blizzard_Calendar\Blizzard_Calendar.lua:882: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) error
09:05.18Repo10menotes: 03malikibala * r7 Libs/LibStub (2 files in 1 directory): Missing Lib
09:05.22Elkanoorionshock, mind to NOT force people into my blacklist in GC?
09:05.35orionshockeh?
09:06.21orionshockexplain Elkano.. prolly found an unintended effect
09:06.54Elkanothere are names showing up in the blacklist but I never added anyone
09:07.14orionshockthe only thing that populates that for you is people from your ignore list
09:07.30Elkanohmmm....
09:07.31Groktarhttp://www.fukung.net/v/2193/1169744852981.gif
09:07.32Groktarwhat a beast
09:07.54orionshockgranted if you take them off your ignore list, you have to unblacklist them manually
09:08.11Repo10libtagcompiler-2-0: 03Phanx * r7 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Stop messing with my file names dammit!
09:08.15Repo- Pull in LibStub via externals
09:11.01Natherulorion, did you mean that i shall post it in the wow official forum for bugs?
09:11.27orionshockNatherul: yes
09:11.56orionshocki'd also mention what toon / realm / time as well. that way they can pull it up and cross reference what the API was doing
09:12.42orionshock90% of the calendar is all local and protected so any problem is blizzard's fault. expecialy if there are no addons
09:14.34Natheruloron sorry to be such a pain but never used official forum before and i cant find the bug place, can i plz get a link? ^
09:14.42Repo10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r76 / (2 files in 1 directory): Implement shift-click in "Buy" tab.
09:14.45RepoIgnore control/alt-right-click when not at the AH.
09:15.11orionshockhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?sid=1&forumId=10023
09:15.27orionshockand ofc, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11228564616&sid=1
09:15.33orionshock^^ read that one first :)
09:16.22Natherulno wonders i did not find it, im european player and that from the american
09:18.37orionshockhehe, eu forums don't have a bug reports section...
09:19.15Natheruli guess i have to post in tech suppost on EU
09:19.51orionshockwell do a write up and i'll post it for you on the US forums
09:20.14Natherulshall i give you a priv message on irc with the message then?
09:20.24orionshockthat or pasty works :)
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09:24.14pakozAny techies about?
09:24.53pakozI was looking into this new service called OnLive and wanted to discuss its practicalities(sp)
09:26.30pakozmaybe practicalities isn't the right word - but i'd like to discuss it at any rate
09:30.02Grumi doubt that has anything to do with wow pakoz :p
09:30.11pakozoh it does ;p
09:30.16pakozOnLive is a video game service
09:30.23Grumis it wow? no .. bay
09:30.33pakozpotentially
09:30.54Grumthen shouldnt you be talking to blizzard? :)
09:31.29pakozI don't want to sell it, I want to criticize it ;/
09:31.49Grumbut wouldnt it be better if we wouldnt know about it?
09:32.00Grumso then we dont have to add it to the long list of stuff we hate and despise
09:32.31pakozThats why I seek another's opinion - possibly someone who holds a different opinion ;]
09:34.25pakozNo bites, o well off to bed - gnight
09:39.06Groktarlicks pak
09:39.23Kalrothkinky
09:39.51Groktarwhispers a lewd suggestion into Kalroth's ear
09:39.57Groktarwinks slylu at Kalroth
09:39.58orionshockTMI
09:40.08orionshock:P
09:40.21Kalrothforwards the suggestion to orionshock.
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09:56.11orionshockping nevcairiel
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09:57.25orionshockhe's prolly not arround or watching IRC ...
09:57.27orionshockeh well
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10:17.12_SunTsuFisker-: so, business as usual
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10:49.23Repo10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r637 sRaidFrames.lua: Schedule a full update after entering a vehicle
10:51.59sb|workso nevcairiel, when will you start coding nevcastbar? :p
10:52.23hastewhen he's done patching oUF!
10:52.30nevcairielshh
10:53.05hastethe login server finally let me in!
10:55.01ramoz:O
10:56.43Kalrothpoor nev
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12:21.03sb|workFisker-: do something funny, i'm bored..
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12:23.29Repoalso removed the LoadAddon calls
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12:45.33sb|workbah
12:45.42sb|workthis weather is killing me :o
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12:55.17kagarowell here is an interesting conundrum with the new policy. a gaming magazine wants to include one of the addons i manage to distrubute on DVD with their magazine. Would that violate clause #1 if there was no link to the curse project page?
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13:03.48krkakif, we have a conumdrum. search them for paper and bring me a rock
13:04.42krkai think it would be fine, as long as there is an easy and official way to get it without paying for it
13:04.54krkawhich, i believe, is the intent behind the policy
13:05.00krkabut IANAL
13:05.09krka(IJPOOTI)
13:06.04nevcairiels that an official acronym i'm supposed to know?
13:06.53krkaI just play one on the internet
13:07.02nevcairielhehe
13:08.26krkano pun intended
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13:22.30ShaneSvellergood morning all, are there any wowace forum threads regarding the new addon policy? a cursory search didn't turn up anything and I'm really curious how many of you feel about things as they stand.
13:24.39Stanzillahttp://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=16063 <
13:25.25ShaneSvellerah, sorry, that was a background tab i hadn't gotten to reading yet >.<
13:26.06Stanzilla:>
13:26.09[Ammo]I don't care for the policy
13:26.11[Ammo]apart from...
13:26.13[Ammo]~c'thun
13:26.13purl[Ammo]: Is that a tentacle in your pants or are you happy to see me?
13:27.07sb|workuhm...
13:27.35ShaneSvelleras a minimal author it won't affect me much, but as a player it surely will. luckily, I don't use Carb or QH. The only addon I'll miss thus far is Outfitter.
13:27.54[Ammo]purl came up with the acceptable quote
13:27.56[Ammo]~c'thun
13:27.57purl[Ammo]: Is that a tentacle in your pants or are you happy to see me?
13:28.00[Ammo]now give me an offensive one
13:28.02[Ammo]goddamnit
13:28.26[Ammo]but then again BigWigs_AQ40 isn't really in use :)
13:30.15ShaneSvellerbut the consensus is that the CC won't really be affected by the current wording at least, right?
13:31.42[Ammo]dunno, not my problem :)
13:32.16ShaneSvellerhehe
13:32.22[Ammo]but I doubt its affected
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13:41.50kenlyricthe magic word is "required"
13:42.14kenlyricyou are not required to pay to download from curse
13:42.16ShaneSvellerright. CC isn't required to download anything so it sounds like a loophole to me. but IANAL
13:44.18kenlyricCC will stay in beta forever and nobody will ever have to pay
13:44.24kenlyricseriously how long has it been?
13:45.25nevcairielCC was released last week
13:45.29nevcairielthe windows version that is
13:45.40nevcairielMac as a beta and should be released within the month
13:47.10nevcairielRegarding the CC issue, for one the CC is not required to download anything, and the CC also works for free
13:47.14nevcairielexcept that you have ads.
13:48.48nevcairielYou don't pay for downloading, you don't pay for support, you simply pay for ad-removal and to show your support
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13:50.12krkawhat is CC?
13:50.22kagarocurse client
13:50.53Pneumatusthe fact that the CC isn't an addon probably helps as well :o
13:50.59krkait's a service
13:51.12nevcairielYes, and it works for free.
13:51.28nevcairielI doubt blizzard will ban pages that offer a "pay for ad-removal" option
13:51.33krka"charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on"
13:51.46Pneumatusit's not related to any add-on
13:51.59krkaan addon downloader is surely related to addons
13:52.14nevcairielNo-one charges for the Curse Client, though.
13:52.21nevcairielIts free
13:52.24quiescenswhat exactly is the deal with carbonite that precipitated this?
13:52.32Pneumatusthey made an ads-supported version
13:52.33quiescensor which supposedly did
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13:52.42Pneumatuswhich popped up adds every couple of minutes
13:53.00nevcairielCurse, allakhazam/wowi, nearly every page offers a "premium" membership that simply removes ads and gives you a golden badge as a supporter
13:53.13quiescensplus they are web sites?
13:53.22quiescensdoesn't this policy of theirs only affect in game addons?
13:54.32Pneumatusaddons have a pretty specific meaning in WoW, aka the lua/xml/toc files in Interface/Addons/XXX
13:54.47krkathe ad thing is only for ingame
13:54.53ShaneSvellerright.
13:54.54krkathe pay for thing is wherever
13:55.15nevcairielIANAL either, but imho its really a big stretch to extrapolate the "pay-for" onto addon distribution sites with a premium feature that removes ads.
13:55.20ShaneSvellerbut it seems like "require" was the key word, as kenlyric pointed out
13:55.47krkadoesn't say require in the policy
13:55.53kenlyricyou are paying for automation of addon download
13:56.01kenlyricmaybe it's requires?
13:56.33nevcairielThe automation is a side-effect of not showing ads anymore. Don't need to show ads, can automate the whole updating =P
13:56.45krkawell, it does say require, but not really in the context of it being the only option
13:56.49quiescensif you can start heading down that line
13:57.03quiescensyou could eventually end up with like, I pay my ISP to be able to download anything
13:57.06quiescenslol
13:57.06kenlyricthat's what "require" means
13:57.15kenlyricif you give an option to not pay, you don't actually require payment
13:57.31ShaneSvellerkrka: require, mandatory and similar words seem to be pretty unambiguous to me.
13:57.32krkaonly if what i get is exactly the same thing
13:57.37Pneumatuswhat we really need is curse/wowinterface to take wowmatrix to court :>
13:57.39nevcairielits like a form of donation really
13:57.41krkasince one option is without ads, they're not the same
13:57.42kenlyricwhat you get is exactly the same thing
13:57.42nevcairielYou get addons for free
13:57.45krkai.e. it's a premium
13:57.47kenlyricyou don't get different addons
13:57.48quiescensI would imagine it has to stop at the idea of whether the addon's creator is requiring payment
13:57.54nevcairielif you choose to donate, you get ad removal as a bonus
13:58.07krkait's only "not requires" if you get the exact same thing for free
13:58.15nevcairielWell you do
13:58.20nevcairielthe addon is the exact same thing
13:58.21krkano, not ad removal
13:58.49ShaneSvellerkrka: the policy doesn't really govern anything outside the addons themselves, so the ad removal is kind of moot, to blizz, imo
13:58.54sb|worknevcairiel: you dont have a "donate" button in your profile! :o
13:59.06nevcairielsb|work: i can set those to profiles now too?
13:59.10nevcairielchecks
13:59.21sb|workuhm no idea
13:59.25sb|workin your addons
13:59.40nevcairielBartender has one, i think
13:59.44nevcairielon wowace at least
13:59.53sb|workoh, right :p
14:00.05krkaShaneSveller: "charge for services related to the add-on"
14:00.06sb|workand where can i dontate to your casting bar addon? :p
14:00.16nevcairielits all the same button
14:00.18nevcairiel:P
14:00.32sb|workmhpf :p
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14:01.58Pneumatusthere's actually nothing in the wording of that policy that prohibits a 3rd party charging for premium versions/services related to addons etc
14:02.07Pneumatusit specifically says that "developers may not create ... "
14:04.32krkait takes a developer to create a downloader
14:04.36krkathey dont just magically appear
14:07.04Pneumatusthe wording implies that "developers" are addon authors
14:07.21PeoiiAnd even if they somehow automagically were, the blanket opening statement of "All addons must be distributed free of charge" would cover the potential overlay.  If it modifies the addon distrubution, it'd qualify.  Modify the website or distribution software all you wish... but the addon itself must be given freely.
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14:08.24Pneumatusfor example, if questhelper decided that they'd release the core code for free, but made the data available by a 3rd party who wasn't "the developer" which was charged for, that policy doesn't cover it
14:08.49Pneumatusas the developer isn't charging for services related to the addon at all
14:09.13PeoiiIt still has to be distributed freely.  Regardless.  That opening statement covers all avenues.
14:09.16nevcairielI still think they would cut you down for that anyway =P
14:09.38nevcairielPneumatus: someone is the developer of that "data plugin", and thus he breaks it
14:09.52Pneumatusno, the addon has to be distributed freely, not the additional data, Peoii
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14:10.39Pneumatusnevcairiel: nothing prohibits you from creating data plugins, charging for them is what the policy covers, and if the developer isn't charging then who'd get the C/D :)
14:10.57PeoiiThat's still a part of the addon though Pneumatus... what is an addon but a collection of data and a means to manipulate that data?
14:11.32Pneumatusa single lua file just containing data isn't an addon
14:11.49nevcairielI bet they could argue it qualifys
14:11.59nevcairielbesides, when they want to brign you down, they will anyway
14:12.05PeoiiYet it's located within the addon folder, which by blizzard definition would make it become an addon.  And it's loaded during the addon process.
14:12.12quiescenswhat if you're offering data as a file which can be used
14:12.22quiescensfor a standalone application
14:12.23krkaisn't a lua file full of quest data copyright infringement?
14:12.38quiescenswhich happens to be offered as a big lua table
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14:12.47quiescensand then someone writes an addon that is capable of using that data
14:12.51nevcairielkrka: is storing their ids without any other data already copyrighted?
14:13.09quiescensthey should just copyright all numbers from 1 - 100000
14:13.11quiescensto be safe
14:13.16nevcairielI mean, every DB page like wowhead stores alot of shit
14:13.28krkadepends on what they include i suppose
14:13.35krkafacts aren't copyrightable
14:13.35Pneumatusif you wanted to fight for copyright infringement though, you could argue that blizzard aren't protecting their IP anyway as it stands because many fansites already break EULA to datamine for their databases
14:13.37krkaexcept in australia
14:13.38krka:P
14:13.40nevcairiellol
14:13.51Pneumatusyou can't choose to enforce your copyright sometimes and not others
14:13.59krkaPneumatus: yes you can
14:14.06nevcairielits their decision who to sue
14:14.17PeoiiPneumatus: :  Welcome to copyright law.  You can pick and choose to your hearts content.
14:14.41quiescenspneumatus: its trademarks that have to be continuously upheld
14:15.42quiescensanyway, still
14:15.51quiescensthe half page of dot points
14:16.16quiescensis highly ambiguous and probably too vague to be sure of anything
14:16.51quiescensit would probably be helpful if there was some clarification to some of the questions that have been asked
14:17.07quiescensbut I don't suppose there has been anything further since the original announcement?
14:17.39PeoiiIt's ironic though that people are willing to raise bloody murder on something spelled out briefly, yet I wonder how many of the same individuals read things like their EULA when they installed Windows and realize they don't even technically own the software they're installing...
14:17.57Peoiishrugs.
14:18.13quiescensbecause the people affected by this are the developers
14:18.14quiescensnot the end users
14:18.32nevcairielNo-one "owns" software anyway, except if you wrote it yourself
14:18.46nevcairielYou just buy a license
14:18.52PeoiiWas simply an example... but yea.
14:19.22nevcairiel~hug sb|work
14:19.23purlACTION hugs sb|work tightly until sb|work turns slightly blue
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14:21.35PeoiiMental note to self:  Looking at policies after a long night of stareing at asm code debugging != productive.
14:21.42quiescensI just don't understand the donations part if the donation thingy only appears to the person using it
14:22.33quiescensyou need to take some HLT's
14:23.00sb|work~hug purl
14:23.01purlACTION jumps into purl's lap and huggles and *hugs* purl
14:23.08quiescensheh
14:24.00Peoiilol
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14:53.52nevcairielmorning ckknight
14:54.59ckknighthowdy, nevcairiel
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14:56.06Dark_Elfi see the wowbros took their stuff off the internet
14:56.52AckisWorkwho?
14:57.17nevcairieli think some guide dealy
14:57.56Dark_Elfyeah it was a guide leveling addon that they wanted people to buy
14:58.35AckisWorkah
14:58.58Dark_Elfi think the addon is still on curse though
14:58.59RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bubbleloot/. BubbleLoot. bubblecannon (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
15:10.02Dark_Elfi swear the trolls and orcs have it harder than the bloodelves when starting, seems one can do the blood elves quests quicks the trolls and orcs have much harder quests
15:13.44ckknightblood elves and draenei have easy and fun starting areas
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15:13.58ckknightsince they were made after
15:14.06ckknightand also to entice people to play those races
15:14.18Dark_Elfperhaps cause they island base the land is not as big i guess
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15:52.52sb|workdivine hymn down to 8k normal, 12k crit :o
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16:13.18Codealphais it possible to display ldb addons in a vertical position?
16:13.35nevcairielanything is possible, that totally depends on your display addon
16:14.02Fisker-31 degrees, 32, 33....
16:14.17Codealphaim using fortress
16:14.24Codealphabut i see no option related to axis
16:14.37nevcairielI'm not even sure i know a addon that does it
16:14.49Codealphafisker: thats where you loctated?
16:15.13Fisker-that's what degrees i can bend a girder at
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16:17.53durcynhell of a commit message.
16:18.04nevcairiellol
16:18.07selckinclearly obfuscated and illegal
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16:18.14nevcairiel@project dailyintake
16:18.15Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/dailyintake/. DailyIntake. Game: WoW. Status: Changes required. Your project requires a better description. Please elaborate on what your project does, including basic functionality and intended use.. Jaerro (Manager/Author). Updated: 0 seconds from now
16:18.18ulicapparently we're testing?
16:18.37Repo10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r4 DailyIntake/DailyIntake/: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
16:18.55nevcairieltoo bad i can't punch him through the svn server
16:19.07ulicdailyintake: Jaerro * r5 DailyIntake/DailyIntake/: Is this thing working?
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16:32.42thulhttp://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/fail-owned-soap-fail1.jpg?w=470&h=373
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16:39.11VonhintenHOME`wtf, Immortal and Undying are being watered down
16:39.32nevcairielold news
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16:43.32Daemonaam i misreading http://blue.mmo-champion.com/13/8496299733-bug--invalid-guid-in-combat-log.html or did he basically say "screw you we dont care about the euro forums, use the ingame tool on the ptrs to report bugs"
16:45.10nevcairielYou can interpret a "screw you X" statement into any statement, imho =)
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16:46.07nevcairielDevs and QA are US, i take no offense in that. As he said, i'm free to post them there to maybe discuss it, as long as i use the feedback tool so it reaches them
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16:50.11GnarfozEU PTRs are US PTRs, meh
16:50.34[Ammo]be glad
16:50.42[Ammo]at least your bug reports from the ingame tool reach the right people
16:51.02[Ammo]when posting at the EU forums you might as well post on the wall in your home toilet
16:51.19Gnarfozindeed
16:51.25thulhttp://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2009/03/teed_dies_after_police_use_tas.html <- interesting
16:51.30Gnarfozbut we've been stuck with this situation for over 4 years, so what's new
16:51.30Gnarfoz:p
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17:06.00Gnarfozhands NeoTron 1x[Internets]
17:07.03nevcairielGratz, you won the internets!
17:08.23Gnarfozindeedily
17:12.14NeoTronheh
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17:12.26NeoTronnice recovery from my pastefail last night
17:16.57Fisker-better yet [Ammo]
17:17.02Fisker-just write on the toilet paper
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17:20.10NeoTronVonhintenHOME`: rather, ulduar immortal type achievements now achieveable without an inordinate amount of luck
17:20.32NeoTronI noticed it wasn't part of the meta either - the meta seems to be limited to hard mode kills
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17:43.10|ncubusNeoTron: its better that way. immortal was the only thing that held us back from the meta for 2 months.
17:43.47NenuePhew, I can safely go back to trying to die in raids.
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17:50.50NeoTronI need Immortal for my 25 man drake
17:50.55NeoTronand two 20 man kills in Naxx..
17:51.30NivFreakI just need immortal
17:51.38NivFreakand we lost it to what seems to be a sapphron bug
17:51.40NivFreak=/
17:51.41NivFreaklast week
17:52.05durcynbug?  did some idiot melee attack from behind an iceblock?
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17:52.37NeoTronso I wonder if Emalon the Stormwatcher is going to be supereasy too
17:53.04NivFreakdurcyn: no, we had an iceblock almost by the door, 10 of us died behind it
17:53.15NivFreakaka, everyone behind that block
17:53.17durcynsounds like a really dumb place to stand.
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17:53.26NivFreakwhy would that be a dumb place?
17:53.27pompyclassNivFreak: we were good up to sapphiron and the iceblocks came and this druid was killed even though he seemed to be behind an iceblock
17:53.30pompyclassand immortal was gone
17:53.39durcynwhy would you use the bloody door?
17:53.47NivFreakbecause 2 of the iceblocks were in blizzard
17:53.53NivFreakit wasn't in the door
17:53.55NivFreakjust almost to it
17:53.59Repo10talented: 03jerry * r474 / (6 files in 2 directories): remove XML, Animation can be created in pure lua.
17:54.02RepoFix pet inactive talents even when no pet is available.
17:54.07NivFreakwe've used blocks in that area every week
17:54.10NeoTronhmm
17:54.14NivFreakthis is the first time we've had a problem
17:54.18NeoTronI wodner what kind of animations talented uses :P
17:54.33pompyclassthat was the only death and the kt kill was flawless.
17:54.55sb|workNeoTron: glyph animations
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18:06.03Repo10talented: 03jerry * r475 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update spelldata to 9722.
18:06.06RepoFix prereq information in talent tooltips
18:07.36winkillerwhere's that good old mod to show addon loading timed *cry*
18:08.11durcynwinkiller: get !!!Zoom!!! instead
18:08.24durcynyes, that's many exclamation points.
18:09.09winkillergoes on a search
18:11.26pompyclass@project !!!Zoom!!!
18:11.27Repopompyclass: No project found that matches '!!!zoom!!!'
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18:19.55PrimerAnyone have any opinion as to what trainer/JC token blue quality gem sells the best?
18:20.38Primerhrmm, talented updated...I wonder if he's implementing dual specs
18:21.01PrimerI still say that all addon developers should be required to hang out here
18:21.05durcynPrimer: he did that a while ago, and any red cut, runed/delicate/bold/etc
18:21.18Primerdurcyn: awesome, thanks
18:21.43durcynactually, probably spellpower moreso than the others
18:21.52Primeryeah, that's the one I buy the most
18:22.15Primersince I have 2 level 80 casters...cloth at that
18:22.32durcynwell, it's used by vastly more specs than str or agi or ap cuts
18:22.46AckisWorkno one on my server has the meta I need =/ rejuvinating skyfire
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18:24.35Primerimagine when it finally drops
18:24.41Primerthat dude's gonna make a killing
18:25.26Repo10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r12 / (4 files in 3 directories): Localization/Locale-enUS.lua
18:25.40PrimerI know the dude that had a monopoly on purified twilight opal on my realm made a HUGE profit
18:26.04Primerwhen he was the only dude that had it
18:26.38rsarnowhats a huge profit?
18:27.40Primerenough to buy a tundra mammoth
18:27.49Primerpeople on my realm aren't that rich
18:28.09rsarnoi dont know how much they go for, im asuming a lot but how much? 1kg? 5kg?
18:28.11Primerin fact, they're fucking cheap ass bastards that won't buy my 60 valor badge bracers for 1k
18:28.18Primertry 18k
18:28.24rsarno:o
18:28.32rsarnothat damn mamoth goes for 18k??
18:28.37Primerwhen LK came out, they were 21k
18:28.40rsarnoi gotta admit they are pretty badass looking
18:28.40Primervendor
18:28.49Primerthey're not drops
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18:29.20Primeryou get it from a vendor in Dalaran...surely you've seen them? They're the mount that has vendor and repair guys on them, and you can dismiss them and carry 2 players on it
18:29.42rsarnono i havent
18:29.53rsarnoim lvl 61 and i dont know too much tbh lol
18:29.59Repo10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r13 DailyIntake/Localization/Locale-enUS.lua: Localization/Locale-enUS.lua
18:30.03Primerare you on a new realm?
18:30.08AckisWorkis broke in wow but has both the vehicle mammoths
18:30.13rsarnogrinded myself up for the most part, over 6 months
18:30.17rsarnoim on zul'jin
18:30.19PrimerI suppose new realms where people haven't accumulated that much money won't have any
18:30.33PeoiiPrimer: Those bracers used to go for upwards of 3k on my server...  now? I'm lucky to get 1200 :/  But hey, I've got my chopper, so all is good.
18:30.39rsarnoi have seen them, people in iron forge AH driving around on them showing off lol
18:30.58PrimerPeoii: heh, I just don't want to be stuck with worthless badges when 3.1 comes
18:31.08Peoiilol, true that!
18:31.13Repo10talented: 03jerry * r476 / (4 files in 2 directories): Make the glyph button a toggle.
18:31.18Pneumatuscan always trade them down anyway
18:31.22Primergo jerry!
18:31.27Primerman, I love talented
18:31.34Pneumatusfor heroic badges to get BoA gear etc
18:31.45Primerheh, I have no more alts I care about
18:31.48PeoiiYea, if nothing else I'll just buy heroic badges and get frozen orbs... cause icy prisms ftw?
18:32.00Primeroh, there is that...I'm leveling JC
18:32.03Primerforgot about that
18:32.16Pneumatusicy prisms are worthless on my realm now unless you get a dragonseye or a red gem
18:32.19Primerstill...60 badges...1k gold > 6 gems
18:32.27Pneumatusall the other gems are like 10g each
18:32.32Primerhow many badges is an orb? 10?
18:32.35Peoii10, yea
18:32.35Pneumatusyup
18:32.49Peoiion Cenarius, orange and red hold their value pretty well it seems
18:32.52Peoiithe rest are garbage
18:32.53Peoiibut yea
18:32.59Pneumatusthe gem market has crashed because people are trading 10 badges for gems as well
18:33.12Peoiioh, and twilight opals... can make a killing on those
18:33.17Primeryeah, I kinda missed the boat
18:33.34PrimerI just want enough gold to get epic + cold weather when my currently 70 DK reaches 77
18:33.42Primererr + flying itself :)
18:33.54Primerlevel 70 flying is still 800 gold?
18:33.55PeoiiThe best money maker ever was I was one of the first people on my server with +16 hit... oh god... buy gems on the AH for 30g a pop, cut em, and flip them for 150g
18:34.06Primernice
18:35.19Pneumatusi made a killing selling herbs after launch, farming the hell out of icecrown/stormpeaks/sholazzar while people were still levelling in HF/BT :)
18:35.30Peoiithere ya go ;)
18:35.58Pneumatusmaking like 4/5k an hour at its peak
18:36.15Peoiiworst was that my main is a JC/Inscriptionist... so it was a race to level my farmer after that
18:36.25durcynselling glyphs for 150g a pop when 3.0 landed was pretty hilarious too
18:36.30Peoiilol
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18:36.47PeoiiGlyph of Thunderstorm day of release == 5k without blinking
18:37.08Pneumatussame as glyphs like Glyph of the Ghoul when it got patched
18:37.20Peoiiyup yup
18:37.59Pneumatusmarket manipulation is a damn site easier in WoW than it is in other mmos too
18:38.54Repo10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r14 DailyIntake/Localization/Locale-enUS.lua: Locale-enUS.lua
18:39.07Peoiiaye
18:39.58Peoiiit's annoying on my server just to how over populated we are... but it's still doable fairly easy if you pay attention to it
18:40.37Pneumatusi manipulate the mid level ores and herbs on my server when im bored :o
18:40.47Primerdamn, can't say that I've ever made that much gold in a day
18:41.11PeoiiThorium is the single most expensive ore on my server by a LONG shot.
18:41.20Primerhow much?
18:41.28Primeron mine it was selling for 100g a stack
18:41.37Pneumatusthorium and mithril both can get pretty pricey
18:41.37Peoiibout that
18:41.43Primerwhen I was leveling my DK's mining and JC
18:41.54PneumatusBS needs an asston of thorium as well to level
18:41.59Primerheh, I needed to level mining, so I just farmed my own
18:42.15PrimerI ended up prospecting it all too
18:42.17Peoii100g or so a stack, and no one farms it... so I get bored, hit up winterspring, and go crazy til my 2x mammoth mining bags are full
18:42.46Primerbtw, is there a JC bag?
18:43.01Peoiithere's a gem bag, but there's not a sizeable one afaik
18:43.16Primerso only the vendor one
18:43.24Peoiinot one I've ever bothered getting at least.  Only special bag I use aside from gathering is the inscription 32 slotter.
18:43.34Peoiicause holy-inks batman
18:43.43Primerheh, I've been making 22 slot bags on my tailor
18:43.54Primermy lock has 3, my priest 3, and my DK 2
18:45.18Peoiioye... extended maintience :/
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18:48.06Tuxbublinghey there
18:48.22Tuxbublingckknight: ping
18:49.33Tuxbublinghttp://pastebin.com/m31781ee7 << what zou think about this?
18:50.10PrimerI think he doesn't care any more
18:50.32TuxbublingPrimer: reason?
18:50.43Primerother people are working on PB
18:50.47Primerand...is that PB3?
18:50.50Tuxbublingoh
18:50.55Tuxbublingzes it is
18:50.58Tuxbublingyes
18:51.08Tuxbublinglattest release
18:51.11Primeryeah, then he cares even less
18:51.14Primerheh
18:51.19Primer<-- still uses PB3, btw
18:51.41Fisker-btw Ackis
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18:51.53Fisker-i am ballte.net support officer
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18:51.59Repo10talented: 03jerry 04v2.0-beta1-3.1.9722-only * r477 : Tagging as v2.0-beta1-3.1.9722-only
18:52.06Fisker-I need to verify any unused blizzcon codes
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18:52.36StanzillaPrimer: ckk is working on pb4 all the time? or what do you mean :P
18:52.44TuxbublingPrimer: what could be the problem??
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18:54.52Repo10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r15 / (6 files in 3 directories): Localization changes
18:54.59ckknightwhat's all this, then?
18:56.00Fisker-Blizzard: "But we have ads so that users see all of our products"
18:56.26Fisker-Users: But why are the ads for something totally unrelated now?
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18:56.37Fisker-Blizzard: HURRRR, DURRR, HURRDURR, DERP DERP DERP
18:56.45Repo10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r16 DailyIntake/Localization (2 files in 1 directory): Localization changes
18:56.46Camciits their website / game and can do wtf they want ?
18:57.22Fisker-I can call your mom a slut too
18:57.24Axodiouslol Fisker-
18:57.27Fisker-But that doesn't mean i should
18:57.45PrimerStanzilla: heh, don't listen to me :)
18:58.39Camcistill doesnt make any sense why my mom would be a slut and why blizzard adds their ads on their website. its business, retard.
18:58.40AckisWorkwow
18:58.42AckisWorkFisker-:
18:58.53ckknightTuxbubling: your problem will be solved by switching to PB4
18:58.54ckknight<.<
18:58.55AckisWorki can't believe i'm going to do this
18:58.55ckknight>.>
18:59.02AckisWork~Fisker-++
18:59.26AckisWorkckknight: i've been dicking around w/ tickets on CF and moving them and shit and sutff
18:59.31ckknightk
18:59.34Tuxbublingckknight: actually i tried but..... well got lost sonehow
18:59.36Tuxbublingsome
18:59.57Codealphapb4 is easier to congifure than pb3
19:00.27Tuxbublingnot for me lol
19:00.50Codealphathen i'm sorry for you :)
19:00.52ckknightso would you please describe your difficulty in a ticket?
19:00.59ckknightI'm very thankful for advice
19:01.06Fisker-Camci and there's no reason to needlessly endanger their customers Camci
19:01.07PrimerTuxbubling: I hear you, man. I have a lot of time invested in configuring PB3
19:01.24PrimerTuxbubling: so much so, that I even wrote a PB module to manage my layouts
19:01.24Fisker-especially not as the forums are accessed through subscriptions to begin with
19:01.36ckknightPrimer: I'm not going to stop anyone from maintaining PB3 and keeping it going, that just won't be me.
19:01.51Primerckknight: I totally understand
19:02.00Fisker-man i'm glad i found this adblock module for google chrome
19:02.15Axodiousomg make the slots stop on my server
19:02.17PrimerI've been waiting to hear that PB4 is "stable" before switching
19:02.17Axodious#@$#%
19:02.21Tuxbublingactually i don't know why and how, but it got all "config mode" only with stuff messing everzwhere
19:02.36Tuxbublinglemme try again
19:02.38ckknightPrimer: okay, I can't promise that. But for the most part, it's real close.
19:02.45Tuxbublingi have to heal in dungeon right noy lol
19:02.47Camciendanger? its not like its anoying adds, i barely notice those adds. blizzard are a company and they advertise their other product on their very own website which i think is very legit.
19:03.06PrimerTuxbubling: re-install it?
19:03.09Camcieither stfu or get some shit add blocker like a smart person
19:03.11Axodiousckk, how stable is pb4 at this point... like is there any glaring things you still can't see/do
19:03.15Primercd Addons, rm -rf PitBull*
19:03.28ckknightAxodious: no death knight runes, and no full-frame highlight yet
19:03.39TuxbublingPrimer: doing it right now
19:03.41Primerwhat is full frame highlight?
19:03.43Axodioushm k, i think i might give it a whirl in a few then
19:03.43Fisker-Camci they're not their own ads
19:03.50Fisker-They've just moved away from that
19:03.53Primerlike, magic/disease/poison/curse?
19:03.54Fisker-now it's pretty much anything goes
19:03.56ckknightlike, when someone has a curse on them and you can heal curses, it highlights in PB3
19:03.57Camciits their own products
19:04.01Fisker-not anymore
19:04.01Primeraround the player's unit frame?
19:04.04Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=18535&sid=1
19:04.11Axodiousyeah i have that turned off in pb3 anyway
19:04.21Primerckknight: ahh, that's a showstopper
19:04.23Fisker-Unless they started going into the phone carrier service, mobile phone production, etc.-business
19:04.30ckknightPrimer: keyword was 'yet'
19:04.38ckknightyea, give it a whirl, if you have any issues, tell me, Axodious
19:04.41Camciyea? 2 adds with world of warcraft miniature game and some comic serie
19:04.48Axodiouswill do
19:04.49Camcii think both is blizz :p
19:05.46Axodiousugh it's hard getting use to this new battle.net account stuff
19:05.50Axodiouskeep typing my old username
19:06.35Axodiousalthough its nice being able to download diablo 2 rather than get a read error every 30 seconds while installing it off my cd
19:07.01Camciis there a way to merge your starcraft battle.net account with wow battle.net account? :p
19:07.17Axodiousi'm not sure lemme check
19:08.02Axodiousno you cant
19:08.09Camcimeh sucks
19:08.23Camcii guess its for sc2 and diablo 3
19:08.27Axodiousi mean, you can put the starcraft cd key in your new battle.net account
19:08.33Axodiousbut you cant login in game with that account name
19:08.36Axodiousyou need to use your classic
19:08.44Camcii see
19:08.53Axodiousand yeah it is specificly for wow/sc2/d3
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19:08.58Axodiousand future products
19:09.01Camcidoesnt matter my sc key is illegal :P
19:09.06Axodioushttps://us.battle.net/faq/index.html
19:09.08Fisker-Camci
19:09.10Fisker-http://i42.tinypic.com/5zjao.jpg
19:09.14Axodiousthe faq is pretty decent for a change
19:10.15CamciFisker- They did announce some while ago that other non blizz related adds showing up and were investigating the "issue" ^^
19:10.56Fisker-Yeah the last time it seemed blatantly obvious
19:10.59Fisker-not so much this time
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19:22.42Primeroh wtf, WoW seg'd wine
19:23.42Primerman, I really need 4g of ram on this box, 2g just ain't enough
19:23.56PrimerI'm having to kill firefox to run wow now
19:24.03AckisWorkPrimer: I have 512mb on this PC at work :P
19:24.16AxodiousR.A.M: .:[3137/8191 61.7% Free]:. Virtual Memory: .:[103/2048 95% Free]:.
19:24.20Axodious;)
19:24.22Camciye firefox rapes your ram...
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19:26.03ckknightraep
19:26.10LysitheaPrimer wtf?
19:26.17Axodiousckk you know about this WARNING: Can't activate/deactivate a nondropped totem ?
19:26.21LysitheaI got 1gig and run wow+ff just fine >_>
19:26.37Lysithea(low settings tho!)
19:26.38ckknightAxodious: no idea, ask Vangual
19:26.41Axodiousspammed me about 30 times i think when i turned on solo config mode
19:27.04Axodiouspokes Vangual, any idea? ;p
19:27.16ckknightwhat class are you?
19:27.20Axodiousshaman
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19:28.05Vangualhrm, file a ticket how i can reproduce it. that's one of the "shouldn't ever occur" errors
19:28.19Axodiouslemme see if i can
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19:30.18Axodiousok i got it
19:32.02Axodiousticket #304 Vangual
19:32.12Vangualthanks
19:33.37Fisker-licks Ackis
19:33.43Fisker-don't you have a beta key for meeeeeeeee?
19:33.49Axodiousdoes the saved variables from pb4 merge with the saved variables from pb3? or a seperate lua file?
19:33.59Axodiousie should i remove my pb3 config
19:35.23AckisWorkeh: "I am interested to publish your addon Ackis on CD/DVD and website for a french company. Can you give me your email for further info please ?"
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19:35.31AckisWorkanyone else get that/
19:35.45Axodiouslol
19:36.20NeoTrongrats? :P
19:36.40AckisWorkjust want to know if anyone got that message as well
19:37.03kenlyricSELL SELL SELL
19:37.08AckisWorklike ckknight, Kaelten, Xinhuan, Arrowmaster, etc :P
19:37.14rsarnoomg lol - Today, my husband dropped me off at work, ten minutes later I got a text saying" I just dropped the b*tch off I'll be there in a few baby, miss you". FML
19:37.15Kaeltenduck
19:37.17ckknightyea, I got it, AckisWork
19:37.33ckknightfor both FuBar and Cartographer
19:37.41AckisWorkKaelten: quack quack
19:37.45AckisWorkckknight: scam/
19:38.02Xinhuanwhere?
19:38.04Xinhuanemail?
19:38.04ckknightrsarno: that happened to you?
19:38.05Kaeltenrsarno: um.....
19:38.13AckisWorkXinhuan: wowace PM
19:38.20Xinhuandon't think i received one
19:38.31Xinhuanhowever, i received one asking about a coordinated april fool's attack
19:38.37Xinhuanusing popular mods
19:38.37Kaeltenlol
19:38.46Xinhuansuch as umm, BT4 and omen
19:38.58AckisWorkXinhuan: eh if people install ARL they're already a fool imo
19:38.58nevcairieli declined
19:39.06Xinhuani'm considering it, but in view of the latest UI policy
19:39.11Xinhuani'm not sure i want to "annoy users"
19:39.25nevcairieli don't think his idea is particularly funny
19:39.34Xinhuanwhat would have been funny to you?
19:39.45Xinhuanpink poohbears background on omen on april 1st?
19:40.54Xinhuani'm reading carbonite forums
19:40.55Xinhuanlol
19:41.01Xinhuan"i dont think blizzard can stop current members that have paid already from usein the addon as that would be tortious interference. we paying customers made a contract with carbonite when we bought the program/addon and THEN blizzard changed its ui policy... trying to force this company to die and lose its market share."
19:41.03ckknightwe need to do an april fool's for wowace.com
19:41.09MegalonXinhuan: nope, just http://oculosis.com/maraby/tmp/pedobear.png !
19:41.29AckisWorkckknight: I already gave you excellent suggestions :P
19:41.47Xinhuanwhats the chances carbonite can countersue for tortious influence? lol
19:41.54ckknightwe can't post anything that would hurt our image too bad
19:42.00ckknighte.g. that we're merging with wowmatrix
19:42.01ckknightthat'd be bad.
19:42.03durcynXinhuan: zero.
19:42.04AckisWorkXinhuan: i hope these pay addons do it
19:42.09AckisWorkckknight: but it'd be funny :(
19:42.40Megalonjust make a news that kaelten retired
19:42.43Megalonand Fisker- got his job
19:42.46Megalon:7
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19:43.17Fisker-takes the next place out of this dump
19:43.29ckknightlol
19:43.36ckknightyes, abusing Fisker- could be a good idea.
19:43.40Kaeltenlol
19:43.43AckisWorkckknight: we do that already
19:43.49ckknightbut moreso!
19:43.52AckisWorkhe's the one person who gets abused more than me
19:44.05AckisWorkI wished I could throw blizzcon stress balls at him all day
19:44.08EthanCentauraiFisker- for President of USA! :D
19:44.10AckisWorkthat'd be a good stress reliever
19:44.27EthanCentaurairuns for his life
19:44.58AckisWorkEthanCentaurai: it might be an improvement
19:45.51Xinhuanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15864749872&sid=1
19:45.55Xinhuanwhoa mikk started a thread
19:46.12Xinhuani mean Mikord
19:46.43DaemonaAckisWork talking about LARP Fireballs or whats the stressball reference? ;)
19:47.03Fisker-place = plane btw
19:47.07Fisker-btw  Ackis
19:47.13Fisker-you owe me a starcraft 2 beta key
19:48.13AckisWorkFisker-: why?
19:48.27AckisWorkDaemona: throwing balls at fisker- == stress release
19:48.43Fisker-<AckisWork> I owe you a Starcraft 2 beta key
19:48.47Fisker-<Fisker-> Ok nice.
19:49.11Megalon<AckisWork> troll got trolled
19:49.35Fisker-<AckisWork> Disregard that i suck cocks
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19:50.37durcynquoting bash.org should be a bannable offense
19:51.19AckisWorkI am still confused
19:52.04ckknighthttp://www.bash.org/?715285
19:52.05ckknight<.<
19:52.07ckknight>.>
19:52.34AckisWorkheh
19:55.13Daemonapossibly poking into a beehive, but what the heck is up with authors pulling/discontinuing addons and players yelling "stop QQ n00bs", Did someone mass-dispell Arcane Intellect on the public forums?
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19:55.52ThraeThe forums have always been like that.
19:55.54thuldevelopers are humans
19:55.58thulinterestingly enough
19:55.59thulso are users.
19:56.16Vangualmages forgot to rebuff 4 years ago
19:56.20AckisWorkthul: speak for yourself!
19:56.43thulYOURS ELF?! YOUR MAMA'S ELF!!
19:57.02AckisWorkkik
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20:02.44Repo10automaton: 03weab 07master * ac935b3 modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
20:02.47Repoac935b3: Fix broken logic in Repair from Guild Funds option.
20:02.50Repod67db43: Fix a bug that was passing empty slots to ProcessLink
20:07.29Axodiousthere a way to set the default font size in pb4 for allframes?
20:07.42Axodiousfont seems a lot bigger in 4 than 3
20:08.54ckknightyes
20:09.00ckknightit's handled by layout
20:09.22Axodiousthat's where i'm at right now, haven't bumped into it and i just finished aura's
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20:10.03Camcihow long after the patch will season 5 end ?
20:10.18Axodiouslike, i can set the individual text percentages for each text, but overall by default the font is a lot larger
20:10.25SkellumJust in time for the Paladins and DKs to get their mounts
20:10.46SkellumI'd assume instantly tbh, since they've expressed a dislike for how avaliable PvE gear was and PvP gear wasnt
20:11.03Axodiousthey were dumb with s4
20:11.11SkellumS3, S4, S5
20:11.31Axodious80% of people were runnign around with pve weapons
20:11.43Axodioussimply because they only made it available at a tsupid price for pvp
20:12.10Axodiousthey need to make pvp weapons more wanted
20:12.19Axodiousadd unique equips to them
20:12.27Axodiouslike 10% less disarm time or something for some of them
20:12.28Axodiousthat stacks
20:12.32Axodiouswith enchants
20:14.20AckisWorkXinhuan: http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=45942#created-by you see that item?
20:14.32Axodiousi can't seem to find this setting ckk, in pb3 it's Global Settings -> Font
20:14.37Xinhuanwhat about it
20:14.40ckknightLayout Editor, Axodious
20:14.43ckknightTexts
20:14.53AckisWorkXinhuan: you think they'll move it to live or something?
20:14.53Xinhuanits a PTR-only item
20:15.04Xinhuani wouldn't add it to my database
20:15.08Xinhuanunless it actually exists on live
20:15.25Xinhuanthat's why i hardcode ALL my item data
20:15.27Axodiousi'm in the texts, it has current text, new text, default font, then goes into edit text section
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20:15.42AckisWorkXinhuan: I didn't find that via datamining, I found it via browsing :P
20:15.44Axodiousand the only thing there is the multiplier
20:15.46Xinhuanso that non-existant items don't enter my databases ;p
20:15.54Xinhuanconsider the item Shifting Twilight Opal
20:16.02Xinhuanit exists on wowhead, and you can even link it on live!
20:16.15Xinhuanbut the gem doesn't exist - its not creatable by anyone
20:16.19Xinhuanthe recipe for it doesn't exist
20:16.24Xinhuan(until 3.1)
20:17.14AckisWorkaye... i haven't updated ARL for 3.1... should I? :P\
20:17.15Axodiousnote to self, don't go into 40 man config while 40 auras are showing on every frame
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20:19.35Axodiousthe global font size setting doesn't seem to be anywhere in pb4 ckk, only the size multiplier for each individual text, i'm using the normal layout in the editor
20:20.09ckknightAxodious: hmm
20:20.13ckknightlemme check, hang on
20:21.12Repo10automaton: 03gxxam 07master * 27a77f3 modules/Rez.lua: [+1 commit] Only ignore rez from druids if they are in combat
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20:23.43Repo10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04Beta * r18 : Tagging as Beta
20:23.59AckisWork@project dailyintake
20:24.00RepoAckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/dailyintake/. DailyIntake. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval after changes. Your project requires a better description. Please elaborate on what your project does, including basic functionality and intended use.. Jaerro (Manager/Author). Updated: 9 seconds ago
20:25.03Gnarfozit's IHML in crappy
20:25.03AckisWorkfigured
20:25.03Repo10gathermate_sharing: 03kagaro * r74 GatherMate_Sharing.toc: GatherMate_Sharing: fix disembed setup in toc
20:25.04ckknightAxodious: I forgot to implement it.
20:25.04ckknightAxodious: there's a ticket for it. find the ticket and vote up ;-)
20:25.04Repo10gathermate_sharing: 03kagaro 04v1.2 * r75 : Tagging as v1.2
20:25.06Axodiousah k lol
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20:25.20Repo10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r19 DailyIntake/Localization/ruRU.lua: Trying Beta
20:25.50Axodiousvoted ;p
20:26.10AckisWorkGnarfoz: I posted a link to ihml on his page... heh
20:26.24Gnarfozheh
20:26.37Gnarfozalso, he totally sucks at using Svn
20:27.31AckisWorklike I think ihml is daily quest complete heh
20:27.40Repo10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r20 / (2 files in 2 directories): some changes
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20:28.55ckknight_nick ckknight
20:32.27NeoTron~no ckknight
20:32.32NeoTrondarn
20:32.33ckknight?
20:32.35Fisker-shut the fuck up
20:32.52Fisker-likes where this is going
20:33.36durcyn"Some changes"
20:33.38durcynYow.
20:33.39ckknightpimp-slaps Fisker-
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20:37.22AckisWorkdurcyn: ?
20:37.28Axodiousckk, have you figured out how to reproduce ticket 238 (mana spark overflow)? i'm having a similair issue only it's not overflowing but not animating across the entire bar
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20:37.32durcynAckis: i was mocking Jaerro's commit messages again
20:37.36Castigoand i am a back!, did u missed me?
20:37.38ckknighthaven't looked into it
20:37.44ckknightCastigo: ...yes
20:37.46AckisWorkdurcyn: ahh... the commit messages are just like mine though
20:37.49Axodiousoh wait, that's Shefki
20:37.53Axodiouspokes Shefki
20:38.12durcyndon't take this away from me, AckisWork, it's the only real entertainment i've had today
20:38.18Castigobless, ty ckknight
20:38.27Castigoas usual i got a nice boring question
20:38.44Castigohow does the combat log guid relates to the ingame creature id?
20:38.48AckisWorkdurcyn: you could try to find your penis?
20:39.00durcynAckisWork: my cow-orkers usually resent me for that
20:39.10AckisWorkdurcyn: heh
20:39.44ckknightCastigo: you mean the mob id?
20:39.56Castigotalking about cows, when are the intended to add the "milking" racial conjured food for taurens?
20:40.07Castigockknight i'm trying to divide trashmobs from raidbosses
20:40.14sztanpetyea i managed to get the same mana spark overflow when in raid after combat i think, not sure if that counts or not
20:40.15Castigoand i belive that doing it by "name" is not a good idea
20:40.25ckknightCastigo: you can get the mobid from the GUID
20:40.29ckknightcheck wowwiki for more details
20:40.34Castigobrb then :)
20:40.43AckisWorkdurcyn: i'm playing with excel spreadsheets
20:41.25durcynCastigo: tonumber(string.sub(guid,-12,-7),16)
20:41.39durcynAckisWork: why
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20:42.27AckisWorkdurcyn: for work stuffz
20:42.41AckisWorki know i actually do work here sometimes eh?
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20:42.58durcynyou're full of shit, sir.
20:43.05AckisWork:(
20:43.15AckisWorki pooped today, so I'm empty
20:43.29Castigodurcyn tyvm, ckknight tyvm too
20:43.34Castigoi'm not sure i came across correctly tho
20:43.34ckknightk
20:43.47Castigoi mean i need th "mobid" that doesn't change thru server resets
20:43.53ckknightright
20:43.59Castigothe raid bosses ID that stays the same all the time
20:44.00ckknightI get what you're saying
20:44.09ckknightthe mobid is a substring inside the GUID
20:44.12Castigook
20:44.20Castigois mobid=what i am talking about?
20:44.27durcynyes, mob id is what you're talking about
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20:45.02Castigowell then, tyvm both of u
20:45.07Castigobrb coding :)
20:45.25ckknightguid:sub(-12, -7)
20:45.30ckknightI think
20:45.33ckknightbasically
20:45.37ckknighttonumber(guid:sub(-12, 7), 16)
20:45.44Castigoyup
20:45.58durcynfor example, from my last naxxramas combat log, kel'thuzad's GUID was 0xF130003E760005F1, that comes out to 15990, http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=15990
20:46.08durcynthat mob is is static.
20:46.11durcynid*
20:46.18Castigoi'm not using lua but nvm i get the point anyway
20:46.32ckknightlua> tonumber("003E76", 16)
20:46.33lua_botckknight: 15990
20:46.42Castigodurcyn yen i was reading from wow wiki right now
20:46.53Castigothe lower part instead changes each reset and is a server wise mob id
20:46.56Castigoor kinda
20:47.02Castigothat's why i asked if we were talking about the same matter
20:47.31durcynthink of the guid as flags + permanent id + serial number
20:47.44Axodiousare totems showing up as debuffs in auras right now for pb4?
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20:48.35Castigodurcyn tyvm :)
20:49.38Castigoanother "brainstorm" i am trying to "separate" the events on the combatlog, my idea was to check that id to divide bosses from trashmobs, and if the space between an action and another is bigger than 3 seconds i consider it a wipe/kill and proceed (unless there is a UNIT_DEAD) event it's a wipe
20:49.50Castigoand so on, am i correct or there are "better" ways to do so?
20:50.02durcynno, most existing parsers use timeouts
20:50.10durcynthough 3 seconds is a bit low for multi-phase fights
20:50.13Chrnoticdoes anyone know why human females weapons are like 3x size compared of all other races/genders?
20:50.22durcynyou can also look for a new GUID for the boss mobID and reset on that
20:50.51Castigodurcyn bosses guid resets each try?
20:51.00durcynfor things that despawn, yes.
20:51.25Axodiousso i've got a few problems with totems specificly in different modules, should i make individual tickets per module or just 1 ticket stating all the issues?
20:51.44durcynGUIDs are never recycled within a server reset period
20:52.45Castigouhm... i did have 2 wipes on sarth and actually was wondering werther my code was bugging out or not
20:52.47Castigothat might explain
20:54.28ckknightAxodious: one ticket pet.
20:54.28ckknightper*
20:54.28Axodiousk
20:54.28ckknightAxodious: absolutely. I hate tickets that say more than one thing
20:54.29ckknightThis just in: Alabama feels threatened, drafts legislation to declare the square root of two as "the baby jesus." Overwhelming approval from all constituencies.
20:54.30Axodiousok, now what if it's 2 issues related to the same thing in 1 module, like friendly totems are showing up as debuffs and aren't resizing to the casters icon size
20:57.46Castigodurcyn do u know if the raid mob id
20:57.50Castigostays the same for 10 man and 25 man?
20:58.14durcynso far, yes.
20:59.12Castigoty
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21:18.07thulhttp://bildr.no/view/348425 <- I'd hit it (nsfw)
21:18.22ckknightflexible
21:18.54thulindeed, practical.
21:19.02Gnarfozchild porn
21:19.08Gnarfozyou're all going down!
21:19.13ckknightnot necessarily, Gnarfoz
21:19.18thulhaha, she is 22 :-P
21:19.21thulbut ok
21:19.26Megalonin germany it's child porn
21:19.26Gnarfozmeh.
21:19.35thulhmm, it is child porn if the girl is 22? :-(
21:19.37GnarfozMegalon: hehe, someone who know's why that's my first response :p
21:19.44Megalonas someone who has no clue could possible think she is underaged
21:20.01Megalonthat's the current law for the krauts :P
21:20.04thul13?
21:20.04Gnarfozthul: pretending to look underage is == being underage here, these days
21:20.12Gnarfozor somesuch
21:20.22Gnarfozthul: that'd be < 18
21:21.01Gnarfozalthough the age of consent is below that, which is ironic in itself :\
21:21.03thulGnarfoz: hmm, so if I dressed in a schoolgirl outfit and pretended to be a young boy (I'm a bearded 100kg male :-P ) it would be illegal? :-(
21:21.11Megalonyep
21:21.20thulhaha, interesting fascism.
21:21.25Gnarfozindeed
21:21.31Megalonif you sent a photo to a german friend
21:21.36Gnarfozthey're going batshit insane these days with actionism
21:21.42Megalonhe could get into trouble :P
21:21.48Gnarfozbut then again
21:21.52thulI wonder if quake live will come for mac soon
21:22.19Gnarfoztomorrow (wednesday, that is) they're planning on pushing through some half-done proposal on what is basically internet censorship
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21:22.44Gnarfozobviously intended to help in the "war against child pornography", yada yada
21:22.57Megalonyea, they don't call is censorship, but that's what they wanna do
21:23.01Repo10big-wigs: 03Nevcairiel * r5068 Ulduar/Leviathan.lua:
21:23.04RepoBigWigs: Flame Leviathan: fix Pursuit and System Shutdown triggers
21:23.06ckknightGnarfoz: ugh
21:23.12Megalonhaha, after WAR ON TERRORISM
21:23.15Megalonended
21:23.21Gnarfozended?
21:23.24Megalonit is back to war on childporn in germany
21:23.37Megalonwell, terrorism is back in the closet
21:23.43Gnarfozwell, it ended in that they got their insane gestapo laws
21:23.54Gnarfozi.e. saving of all connection data
21:24.00Gnarfozand the other way more crazy shit
21:24.00thulwell, I don't mind ISPs stopping known child porn sites, but it is quite the way from that to this.
21:24.13nevcairielwhen childporn is on a low, they'll find some nazis to follow too
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21:24.17Gnarfozstate-approved trojan horses for the federal police
21:24.22Gnarfoznevcairiel: you wish :(
21:24.45Megalonnazi zombies ahead!
21:24.51nevcairielIsnt that the usual explanation for our state-trojan?
21:24.53Gnarfozalso, IMSI catchers are fine now (YAY tricking dumb mobile phones into making calls via the police's base station instead of the real one)
21:24.56nevcairielNazis and child porn? :)
21:25.01Gnarfoznevcairiel: no, that was terrorism.
21:25.13Gnarfozchild porn stuff is from Mrs. von der Leyen
21:25.19Megalonnazi child porn in terrorist training camps
21:25.27nevcairielI bet schäuble will come up with a new excuse these days
21:25.36Megalonthat would cover ursel and rolling thunder :P
21:25.45GnarfozSchäuble is the terrorism-big-brother-glass-citizen shit
21:26.00Gnarfoznevcairiel: well, he doesn't have to, really - he got most of what he wanted
21:26.21nevcairielYeah, but they usually still try to defend their stuff afterwards
21:26.27Gnarfozcrap, I'll vote pirate party next time.
21:26.31nevcairielheh
21:26.33Gnarfoznevcairiel: or... get MORE.
21:26.40thulanarchy now :-P
21:26.42nevcairielright, elections soon
21:27.03thuloh, I'd hit http://bildr.no/view/351870 too
21:27.18Gnarfozreally, voting for any of the big players can only turn out shit
21:27.29Gnarfozand I mean all of them :[
21:27.31thulhmm, ginger + freckles = hot.
21:27.39Gnarfozthul:
21:27.41Gnarfoz~freckles++
21:27.46thul:-D
21:27.53Gnarfoz~karma freckles
21:27.53purlfreckles has karma of 1
21:27.54thulMaybe I should move to ireland
21:27.55Megalonginger + freckles
21:27.57Megalon+boobs
21:28.00Megaloneven better!
21:28.11Gnarfozmeh, purl's karma db is not used much, it seems
21:28.16ckknightthul: woo, I'm hot according to you
21:28.18ckknightflexes
21:28.20thul:-D
21:28.23thulsnuggls ckknight
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21:28.38Megalonhrhr, thul, friend asks if the picture beforehand is available in poster quality ;O
21:29.41thulwhich of them? the freckles? or the nude asian chick?
21:29.42Gnarfozanyway, with all the crap politicians and media have spouted out in JUST the last three weeks... they seriously need to look for a reason for teenagers going amok, shooting 15 people? :P
21:30.01Megalonnude asian ;<
21:30.06thulhaha, fraid not.
21:30.33Megalonwhat a pity
21:30.43Gnarfozfunny also how the Intel Friday Night Game (some sort of pro esport league event?) was suddenly out of a venue to host their event in
21:30.59GnarfozBenztown ftl.
21:31.01Repo10ice-hud: 03Parnic 041.4.4 * r360 :  (Message trimmed by 4 lines)
21:31.04RepoTagging as 1.4.4. Changes since last release:
21:31.07Repo- fixed a bug with text alpha being unchangeable with LibDogTag usage disabled
21:31.08ckknightthul: k, girlfriend is jealous now
21:31.10Repo- added toggle to enable/disable showing incoming heals on the player's health bar. also cleaned up the implementation a bit to display more consistently and hide when appropriate
21:31.13Repo- added toggles to show/hide spell cast time and spell rank on player/target cast bars
21:31.14ckknightthul: you should watch out.
21:31.14ckknight<.<
21:31.15ckknight>.>
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21:31.37AxodiousLOOK OUT SHES BEHIND YOU
21:32.03Megalonjealous? because she can't do a split against the wall? :o
21:32.18Axodioushey, that would be an interesting position
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21:48.19Repo10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r638 sRaidFrames.lua:
21:48.22RepoCheck if debuffType is valid before trying to set it as a status.
21:49.44AckisWorknevcairiel: you should add pre-defined "boss" debuffs to the list, and update the buffs I can cast to be "buffs my class can cast" eh/
21:50.12nevcairielisn't that the same?
21:50.19AckisWorknah
21:50.30AckisWorkie: priest w/o divine spirit = DS doesn't show up
21:50.40nevcairielWhy would you care?
21:50.53nevcairielbesides, in a few weeks you'll have DS :P
21:50.57AckisWorkbeen really having issues with the buff part of it lately tbh, not that I raid all that much
21:50.58TheDeamon^^
21:51.08AckisWorknevcairiel: was just an example, think dalaran intellect vs AI
21:51.25nevcairielI can only use the filters blizzard gives me
21:51.32Tristanianwell to be honest, it would be one more option, albeit not that useful
21:51.37nevcairielright now thats "RAID"
21:51.40TheDeamonThat one is probably simply adding an additional field to check for AI/AB/DI
21:51.40nevcairieli think
21:51.40Tristanianguess it depends on personal preference
21:51.55nevcairielI'm not going to do manual buff matching =P
21:52.00Tristanian:p
21:52.11nevcairielOh wait, i think the class option was never added to the options
21:52.16nevcairieleven though the code supports it
21:52.30Tristanianfilter by class you mean ?
21:52.41Tristanianhmm now that you mention it...
21:52.53AckisWorknevcairiel: what about debuffs not cureable by anything?
21:52.55nevcairielCurrently there is an option for "all buffs" and "bfufs i cast"
21:53.11nevcairielbut not "buffs i can cast, even though that other dude casted it"
21:53.18AckisWorknevcairiel: aye :P
21:53.33TristanianI'd reckon you can manually add those debuffs Ackis
21:53.38Tristanianif you really care
21:53.49Tristanianwhitelist them etc
21:53.50nevcairielYou can show all debuffs
21:54.09nevcairieli think
21:54.11AckisWorkTristanian: eh I had a bunch added but when nevcairiel id some profile changing I lost them all... and it cost me an immortal title kinda heh
21:54.25AckisWorkaye you can
21:54.34AckisWorkI should prolly do that opposed to just ones I can cure/whitelist eh?
21:54.51nevcairielI show curable with background coloring and whitelist raid debuffs
21:54.53nevcairielworked fien for me
21:55.27AckisWorknevcairiel: yah my problem is I forget to add my raid debuffs... like when the profile got reseted
21:55.45nevcairielI told you, you just had to change the profile
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21:55.50AckisWork(I know you gave me a fix but I had already reset it)
21:56.01AckisWorkthat really didn't work either btw :P error popped up
21:56.16AckisWorkbut it's in the past and you owe me an immortal ;)
21:56.35nevcairielI added a popup now that appears when you change profile that tells you to reload ui
21:56.40nevcairieland even has a button to do s
21:56.42nevcairiel*so
21:56.46AckisWorkah
21:56.59AckisWorkimo you should write a global profile manager
21:57.06nevcairielI tried fixing the profile thing so you don't have to reload ui anymore
21:57.16nevcairielbut that didnt work properly
21:57.21nevcairiel@project reflux
21:57.22Gnarfozrages
21:57.22Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/reflux/. Reflux. Game: WoW. kagaro (Manager/Author). Updated: 9 hours ago
21:57.23nevcairiel^ackis
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21:58.03AckisWorkwow didn't see that submitted at all
21:58.21TristanianI ended up remaking my profile, not that it is a big deal I lost the Illidan or KJ debuffs
21:58.25Tristanian:p
21:58.32nevcairielhehe
21:58.41nevcairieli still have kaelthas and other stuff in there
21:58.43nevcairielremote toy!
21:58.49Tristanianremote toy!
21:59.06AckisWorkTristanian: I lost my KT debuffs along with SSC, etc as well... and on KT someone died to that ice thingy costing us immortal
21:59.14StanzillaQQ
21:59.20nevcairieloh Wrath of the Astromancer is a good one too
21:59.33nevcairielhm
21:59.37nevcairielwhat was Pillar of Woe again?
21:59.41Tristanianno offense meant but you don't really need a debuff type there :p
21:59.41nevcairielwowhead's
21:59.49AckisWorknevcairiel: some ace profiles let you do by characte/server/etc
21:59.53AckisWorknevcairiel: 1 shot robots in BT?
21:59.54nevcairielTristanian: pre-nerf!
22:00.09Tristaniannerf ? They nerfed KT ? :o
22:00.18nevcairielobviously =P
22:00.28Tristanianseems all the same to me, ever since level 60
22:00.30Tristanian:P
22:00.37Aeyan|Pillar of Woe is a nuke/DoT that the Maiden of Grief casts
22:00.38nevcairielAs a healer KT is nice to have the ice tombs
22:00.38TristanianI'm sick of the instance
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22:00.56nevcairielthe mind control was more aggressive on KT 60
22:01.01nevcairielbeing able to MC the tank, etc
22:01.03Tristanianwell more people
22:01.07Tristanianmore fuckups
22:01.09Tristanianand more tanks :p
22:01.15Gnarfozit can still MC tanks, nevcairiel
22:01.25Gnarfozthat's why it currently, in 3.0.9, still clears aggro
22:01.26AckisWorknevcairiel: try to duo AQ40 ;) if you want to see some fun MCing
22:01.26nevcairielGnarfoz: only if dps fucks up
22:01.41Gnarfoznevcairiel: how so? it's random, is it not?
22:01.47Tristanianhe can ? can't say I've seen that happen :s
22:01.53nevcairielthat it resets aggro now is a mistake
22:01.57Gnarfozno, it's not
22:01.59nevcairielthats why its removed
22:02.00nevcairielit is.
22:02.03Gnarfozgrrr
22:02.05Gnarfozmeh.
22:02.13Gnarfoztoo lazy to dig up the quote
22:02.14nevcairielIts a remnant of the old lvl 60 code
22:02.22NeoTronGnarfoz: he can't MC the tank, and the threat drop is unintentional
22:02.25nevcairielit never could MC the tank on lvl 80
22:02.35Gnarfozah, "THE tank"
22:02.39Tristanianthats why cool people Shadowmeld :p
22:02.42Gnarfozwell, he does MC add tanks.
22:02.46NeoTronsure
22:02.51Gnarfozwasn't thinking of "his tank"
22:02.56Gnarfozthat shouldn't happen ^^
22:03.03NeoTronbut it used to
22:03.13Gnarfozdidn't nev just say the contrary
22:03.14nevcairielGnarfoz: how does a threat dump help or matter for the add tanks ? :D
22:03.24Gnarfozoh, no I'm just failing at reading 80 for 60
22:03.28nevcairiellol
22:03.35Gnarfoznevcairiel: uhm, add tank MC'd -> adds loose
22:03.40Gnarfoznothing to do with the threat wipe
22:03.56nevcairielyou mentioned the threat wipe :)
22:04.02GnarfozI did? didn't I...
22:04.03nevcairielnow i forgot what i wanted to do
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22:04.08GnarfozSUCCESS
22:04.13Tristanianlol
22:04.14Gnarfoz(I need more sleep)
22:04.28nevcairielright i wanted to check what pillar of woe was
22:04.30Tristanianyou wanted to do something to the raid frames
22:04.30Gnarfoztwo german channels ablaze with fucking politics (they're both wow channels)
22:04.35Tristanianmeh
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22:04.53nevcairielyou're in german wow channels?
22:04.57nevcairielyour own damn fault =P
22:05.14StanzillaGnarfoz is on #buffed.de! I know it!
22:05.36nevcairielStanzilla: how so? you there too?
22:05.42StanzillaI am there
22:05.45Stanzillabut..since forever
22:06.03Gnarfozwhat? I'm not
22:06.18Gnarfozbuffed is to WoW as BILD is to real life news
22:06.27nevcairielheh yea
22:06.36Stanzilla:P
22:06.46nevcairielI don't think there is any good german wow community
22:06.51nevcairielnot that i know of, anyway
22:06.52Gnarfoz(same goes for wowszene, and the big 2)
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22:07.08GnarfozI actually stopped caring about them so I forgot their names xD
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22:07.14AckisWorknevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/reflux/pages/main/compare-r4-r5/ lol
22:07.20Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r254 debug/printliteral.lua: color the value passed to print() in the debugging tool
22:07.37nevcairielAckisWork: i don't get whats so funny
22:07.47AckisWorknevcairiel: look at all the typos I fixed :P
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22:08.25nevcairielit doesnt say who edited
22:08.32AckisWorkah
22:08.37Pneumatussylvanaar: are you aware that Prat is putting |H before whispers in r253?
22:08.40Stanzillathat green is so not readable on my screen
22:08.54sylvanaarugh yes
22:09.38AckisWorkdurcyn: http://www.wowace.com/comments/25426-jaerro-thanks-for-the-link-ill-think-about-it-but-honestly/
22:09.47nevcairielI even posted into flame leviathans feedback thread today, man that encounter still has bugs =P
22:10.13AckisWorkhmm I have 1245 activity log entries out of ~20k
22:11.04Tristanianits the most HORRIBLE encounter
22:11.08Tristanianin the history of this game
22:11.11EthanCentauraiPneumatus: disable the ChannelLink module and your problem is solved
22:11.15nevcairielI like the encounter
22:11.18nevcairielthe hardmode is kinda fun
22:11.19Tristanianmore horrible than early BWL drakes
22:11.28nevcairielbut its so broken
22:11.29Tristaniannot when your people cant ride bikes
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22:11.32Tristanianwhen they come down
22:11.43TristanianI mean seriously that bug has existed
22:11.44nevcairielyeah the brokenness was a bit annoying
22:11.49Tristaniansince the initial incarnation
22:12.21Tristanianand I still don't get why he chases demolishers
22:12.26Tristanianconsidering how squishy they are
22:12.44Tristanianas for the vehicles themselves, nah forget it, I won't spit more poison :P
22:12.45nevcairielYeah .. i'm not sure if that is a bug or intended
22:12.56Tristanianat least give them a strafe function ffs
22:13.01durcynAckisWork: pffffth
22:13.09Tristanianyou can't even clearly see what is happening behind you
22:13.09nevcairielBut it would be better if the sprint in demolishers wouldnt be broken right now =P
22:13.14Tristanianespecially if you are chased
22:13.28nevcairielvehicles that strafe? where are we now ? :)
22:13.45Tristanianwell I could argue, vehicles in WoW ? :p
22:13.54nevcairielgnomes build them
22:14.00Tristanianeven launching people seemed somewhat bugged
22:14.01nevcairielthey have been in warcraft lore for ever
22:14.09Tristanianon a couple of instances it misses :P
22:14.16Tristanianand the person falls to his death
22:14.19nevcairielmaybe your guys cant aim? :D
22:14.31Tristanianthis was done point blank
22:14.32Tristanianalmost
22:14.36Tristanianand he died :P
22:14.42nevcairieli can explain that
22:14.55nevcairielon point blank he squishes against the boss, instead of landing on top
22:14.58nevcairiel:P
22:15.05Tristanianah come on nev, don't tell me we need to arc him
22:15.07Tristanianor something
22:15.16nevcairielnah
22:15.39nevcairielWe had the healer on the boss draw aggro from some adds
22:15.40nevcairielthat was fun
22:15.45Tristanianwell anyway, hard mode could be better I guess when the bugs are ironed out
22:15.56Tristanianbut normal mode is such a faceroll :p
22:16.01Tristanianyou can easily afk through it :p
22:16.01nevcairielya
22:16.16nevcairieleven with that one tower buff up, which was apparently bugged
22:16.21Tristanianyep
22:16.41Tristanianwell the adds are interesting, though I would prefer if they didn't stick to the guy getting aggro like glue :P
22:16.49TristanianI blame our bikes !
22:16.53sylvanaarPneumatus if you can pastey a /print Prat.SplitMessage, it'd help still though
22:17.47nevcairielwe didn't realy care about the small ones that much
22:18.00Tristanianwell the big ones need to be tarred
22:18.00nevcairieland did some heavy focus on the big ones, because they push out alot of dmg
22:18.04Tristanianand kitted a bit
22:18.14Tristanianand have like the HP of Superman
22:18.24nevcairielget 2 siege engineson them and you can keep them in the air :D
22:18.30nevcairiel1.9 million
22:18.32nevcairieliirc
22:18.41Tristanianwell true but you get them from all corners
22:18.47Pneumatussylvanaar: {}
22:18.57Pneumatusempty table :o
22:19.19EthanCentauraidid you get or send a whisper beforehand? ;)
22:19.27Pneumatusyup
22:19.55sylvanaar~ /script print(Prat.SplitMessage) or /script print(Prat.SplitMessage)
22:20.09sylvanaar~ /script print(Prat.SplitMessage) or /script fprint(Prat.SplitMessage)
22:20.40nevcairielTristanian: we decided to only have one siege engine on the mob for interrupting, because the melee action of the siege engines is so low, and the risk of getting ramed on target change too high, so they just "tank" the big flowers while the range cannon on them still dmgs flame leviathan (or switches to the flower if you catch one)
22:21.33Tristanianits a valid strategy, still im unsure if one siege on the boss can pull it off
22:21.35Gnarfozsylvanaar: heya
22:21.48Pneumatussylvanaar: /script print(Prat.SplitMessage) gives a tablename as expected, /print Prat.SplitMessage gives an empty table, as does /spew and /dump :)
22:21.50nevcairielwell for itnerrupting its enough
22:21.50Tristanianand those #*$(#&@^&@% vehicles are slower than a TV replay
22:21.53Tristanian:p
22:22.11sylvanaarum
22:22.15nevcairielobviously he needs to run really fast if he gets focused
22:22.23Tristanianyup
22:22.33TristanianI hope you used the shirt
22:22.35Tristanian!
22:22.37sylvanaaryou can do /dump Prat.SplitMessage.ORG
22:22.42nevcairiellike it mattered today =)
22:22.51Tristanianwell, true but still
22:22.59nevcairieltomorrow hardmode vezax
22:23.08TristanianI'd like very much to have an ilvl 43 shirt with +130 to all ratings
22:23.10Tristanian:P
22:23.31nevcairielThey should give us a shirt on live
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22:23.39nevcairielwithout stats, just the shirt
22:23.42nevcairieland the subtext
22:23.43nevcairiel:)
22:23.46Tristanianmeh I hate vezax
22:23.52Tristaniantoo gimmicky*
22:23.55nevcairielI hate the trash
22:24.22Tristanianwell the trash is fairly fast if you know what they are doing
22:24.52nevcairielYeah well we wiped alot on the first two groups last time, but you know, we didn't know what we were doing then
22:24.55nevcairielnow we do :)
22:25.07Tristanianthe thing with vezax is, the camera is horrible as you need to watch for the shadow strike thingie AND everything else
22:25.25Tristanianplus we managed to soft enrage him last time
22:25.30Tristanianwe ran out of green stuff
22:25.31Tristanianno mana
22:25.32Tristaniangg
22:25.34nevcairielI hope my bigwigs mod that trys to raid-mark the shadow strike target player works
22:25.43TristanianWTB
22:25.46Tristanian:p
22:25.56nevcairielYou know hardmode is "don't use mana regen shit"
22:26.13Tristanianwell yeah
22:26.25Tristanianthis means you need to make the most of the oily ground
22:26.53nevcairielFor DPS at least
22:27.05nevcairielbut 30% mana reduce at 50% heal reduce, not worth it for healers, really
22:27.07Tristanianbut the shadow strike isnt targeted afaik
22:27.17Tristaniannope healers need to conserve mana
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22:27.38Pneumatussylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/110862 should be it then
22:27.52nevcairielI'm not sure, i thought i saw him switch target for half a second on casting shadow strike
22:27.57nevcairielon that assumption the mod works
22:28.20TristanianI was watching his target frame constantly, I think he just picks a random target
22:28.24TristanianI hope im wrong
22:28.36Tristanianrandom ranged that is
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22:33.50nevcairielanyway, i'm off, night
22:35.24Groktarhrm, what's a tight bound as opposed to an asymptotic upper/lower bound?  the latter is pretty obvious, but the former is ???
22:36.12Tristaniangn nev
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22:43.22sylvanaarPneumatus i still really dont know whats wrong
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22:46.24Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r53 Abilities/Abilities.lua: Bug fixes
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22:47.36Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r55 / (3 files in 1 directory): Bug fixes
22:47.39RepoAdded trash to encounter DB
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22:59.47Repo10big-wigs: 03Nevcairiel * r5069 Ulduar/Leviathan.lua:
22:59.50RepoBigWigs: Flame Leviathan: Escape the % in the search string.
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23:12.27Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r70 whispercommands.lua: more bid fixes
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23:14.34Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r56 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated release notes for release 0.9.4 Beta
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23:19.47thulhttp://fc27.deviantart.com/fs42/f/2009/083/2/6/Mirror_by_JoGraetz.jpg <- that amount (and placement) of piercings are... imperssive (nsfw)
23:20.15Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r88 / (5 files in 1 directory): fix a few bugs for party quests zone
23:23.44ckknightthul: dang
23:23.58thulindeed
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23:30.29sylvanaarPneumatus do you have channel links enabled?
23:30.36Pneumatuserm
23:30.45Pneumatusdunno, will log in and look
23:31.09Pneumatusprobably though
23:31.38thulhttp://fc15.deviantart.com/fs43/i/2009/083/9/2/Interested_by_LalaM.jpg <- i would so hit this
23:33.08Pneumatussylvanaar: yes i do
23:33.20sylvanaartry turning it off
23:33.44Pneumatusshould it need a reload to apply?
23:34.26Pneumatusinfact, even after a reloadui the |H persists
23:34.31Pneumatuswith chatlinks disabled
23:35.46Pneumatuswith ChannelNames disabled it dissapears though
23:35.48WobWorkthul: I assume that's nsfw too? =P
23:36.41Megalonhttp://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1384170793
23:36.43Megalonlol :C
23:37.11Pneumatussylvanaar: specifcally with ChannelNames loaded and ChannelNames -> Other Options -> Create Channel Link ticked, the |H is present
23:37.21Pneumatusuntick the "Create Channel Link" and it dissapears
23:37.56sylvanaaryeah, thats kind of an old bug
23:38.08sylvanaarill just disable it for now
23:38.29Pneumatusit's only just started showing up in the last couple of alpha revisions tho :o
23:38.56Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r71 whispercommands.lua: fixed full bidding.
23:38.58sylvanaaryeah, i know
23:40.40Repo10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r255 modules/ChannelNames.lua:
23:40.43Repodisable the channel link creation feature in the channelnames module due to a regression resulting from a change from __index="" as the base metatable.
23:41.54sylvanaari swear __index="" meant, every field would have a default value of ""
23:43.31Arrowmaster__index=function(self, k) self[k] = "" return "" end
23:43.33Arrowmaster?
23:44.15PneumatusFunkeh``/vharr, Sapphiron no longer gives warning bars for the air phase in r5064, which could possibly be related to the change in r4934
23:45.31PrimerAnyone aware of an addon that can store what was written in guild chat, then put the last few lines of that into another toon's chat if it's in the same guild when you switch toons?
23:45.57WobWorkPrimer: no, but it's a good idea
23:45.57Primeror whisper, trade, etc?
23:46.13PrimerI'm guessing that should be allowed
23:46.23WobWorkallowed?
23:46.32Primermeaning, it wouldn't be something that Blizz wouldn't want addon writers to do
23:46.55WobWorkdon't see why that would even be an issue
23:47.05WobWorkYou're saving information that's available to the account
23:48.55Primerok, there's a vendor that sells a blue cape that can be DE'd for 17g just outside of Dal
23:49.11PrimerIs there any reason why I should pay 23g for the cheapest dream shard in the AH?
23:49.22Primeror is buying that cloak and DEing it considered "cheating"?
23:49.50PrimerAn addon I have reports it can be DE'd. I've never bought it and DE'd it
23:49.57WobWorkPrimer: at the darkmoon faire?
23:50.10PrimerSince when is the Darkmoon fair ever outside of Dal?
23:50.15WobWorkoh Dal
23:50.17PrimerDalaran
23:50.19WobWorkI read that as shatt for some reason
23:50.27WobWorkI need tea
23:50.35Primerthe Argent dude QM has it
23:50.41NeoTronKaelten: a user just reported that while trying to upgrade MagicDKP he gets version r105 from 3/15 when using release and version r111 when using beta, despite a version r115 Release from yesterday
23:50.44WobWorkI say go for it
23:50.55WobWorkPrices for dream shards are player determined
23:50.58WobWorknot server determined
23:51.18WobWorkit's like people putting items on the AH for less than vendor price
23:51.32WobWorkOr cloth for less than the bandgages sell for
23:52.21Primeryup
23:52.55Starinniacan anyone explain the point of auctioning things on the PTR for 5k gold or more?
23:53.13NeoTronStarinnia: people feel leet when they have virtual fortunes
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23:53.44NeoTronmainly I'd say they do it because they need gold to buy an item for 4000g someone put up to afford the item that's up there for 3500g... etc
23:54.13Starinniayeah, that makes some sense
23:54.33Starinniaguess I'd understand it a bit more if you got the gold on live realms after the PTR closed
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23:57.19ElsiaI think it
23:57.45Elsiait's just supply and demand. Loads of demand and short supply, so charges go high really quickly.
23:58.12NeoTronpeople also don't caer if they spend gold, have transferred their foture many times over, etc
23:58.12ElsiaSo you want to buy 5 enchants and have to sell a glyph. How do you have to value your glyph to have a prayer to buy the enchants on the PTR.
23:58.26ElsiaSo it's kind of a really broken economy.
23:58.49Starinniayeah, that makes sense too
23:59.04Primerok, the addon was wrong
23:59.07Primerit can't be DE'd
23:59.18Starinnia17g down the drain!
23:59.32WobWorkPrimer: =(
23:59.38WobWorkrep items yeh?
23:59.44WobWorkthat was probably deliberate =)

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