00:00.45 | Stanzilla | Elsia: http://pastey.net/110809 |
00:01.18 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: why? |
00:01.26 | NeoTron | that is a silly thing to say |
00:03.00 | Primer | what flask x2 thing? |
00:03.05 | Hjalte | So basically "everyone" gets 4hr flasks now (2+2), yes? |
00:03.14 | Primer | from what? |
00:03.24 | Primer | I have an alchemist...I know that toon gets it |
00:03.37 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1037 Tracker.lua: - Fixing error from nil details. |
00:03.45 | Hjalte | Primer: * All flasks recipes will now create 2 flasks for the same amount of ingredients. |
00:03.46 | Elsia | Stanzilla; thanks fixed now I hope |
00:04.09 | Primer | does that mean an elixir spec'd alch can get x10 ? |
00:04.11 | Odlaw | does that mean procs no longer happen? |
00:04.19 | Hjalte | Primer: But looks like it doesnt last 4 hrs anymore for alchs |
00:04.22 | Anaralx2 | lol, Primer probably not. |
00:04.30 | Primer | that's fucking cheap |
00:05.28 | NeoTron | Hjalte: sure, but every alchemist now get 8 hours, 4+4, per "flask" |
00:05.57 | Hjalte | NeoTron: according to wotlkwiki, they don't: * Flasks/Elixirs - Now make double for the same amount of reagents, but durations cut in half. |
00:06.25 | VonhintenHOME` | what the hell |
00:06.27 | Hjalte | But I'm having some trouble deciphering it. I'd think however, that it is only regarding the alch time bonus |
00:06.37 | NeoTron | ah I see |
00:06.46 | NeoTron | all flasks are now 1 hour (2 hour for alchemists) |
00:06.59 | NeoTron | so in the end there's no change except that you can use flasks on shorted raids without wasting |
00:07.02 | NeoTron | that's good |
00:07.07 | Hjalte | I suppose that makes sense as well. |
00:07.17 | NeoTron | means an alchemist doesn't waste a 4 hour flask when you just raid 2 hours |
00:07.25 | VonhintenHOME` | They better change them to stack to 10 at least |
00:07.27 | NivFreak | oh wtf |
00:07.30 | NivFreak | no shit |
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00:07.33 | Stew_a | At what point after logon can I call JoinChannelByName so it works and joins etc |
00:07.34 | VonhintenHOME` | fucking 5 stacks should be banned |
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00:07.53 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: good point |
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00:10.49 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r58 / (2 files in 1 directory): Optional attendance checks |
00:11.25 | Anaralx2 | NeoTron: what's the point of the flask then? If it's only an hour, might as well use elixirs... unless you know you're going to be dieing a lot. |
00:11.37 | NivFreak | because they persist |
00:11.55 | NivFreak | I use elixirs on farm content, and flasks on progression |
00:12.01 | NivFreak | to save gold |
00:12.09 | NeoTron | Anaralx2: also most elixirs, for dps, are not as good as a flask |
00:12.33 | NeoTron | oh one thing with this cahgne |
00:12.42 | NeoTron | all existing flasks will suddently be half as good |
00:12.46 | NeoTron | wonder if they plan to fix that |
00:12.47 | NivFreak | for a tank, I'd say elixirs are better |
00:13.01 | NivFreak | mostly because the tank flask is shitty |
00:15.21 | Anaralx2 | Exactly NivFreak |
00:15.35 | NivFreak | they buffed it in 3.1 |
00:15.39 | NivFreak | but it's still not that interesting |
00:15.49 | NivFreak | it should be 1000 health, or more |
00:15.55 | NivFreak | and mixed with some other stats |
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00:17.32 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, they fucked the tank flask up, even when "fixing" it |
00:17.50 | NivFreak | I mean we went from 500 health and 10 defense to 650 health |
00:17.50 | NivFreak | wtf? |
00:17.54 | NivFreak | with 10 levels |
00:18.03 | NivFreak | and my health is more than double what it was in TBC |
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00:18.08 | NivFreak | well |
00:18.15 | NivFreak | I guess not more, but close to double |
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00:23.28 | Repo | 10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r50 / (2 files in 1 directory): MorgBid2 |
00:23.31 | Repo | -couple locale fixes for intermixing of english/nonenglish clients |
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00:27.39 | Repo | 10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm 04v3.74 * r51 : Tagging as v3.74 |
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00:44.09 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1038 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
00:44.12 | Repo | - Fix detailed table reuse (hopefully for good). This reverts the 0->nil change for number types but now 0 counts won't be added to details instead. |
00:45.01 | Kilroo | Need to read better |
00:45.04 | Primer | aww, I was just abou to complain about recount |
00:45.16 | Kilroo | I was about to ask what the addon "Elsia" did |
00:45.27 | Kilroo | Then I realized that wasn't the name of the addon |
00:45.29 | Kilroo | Hdurr. |
00:46.23 | Primer | heh |
00:46.45 | Groktar|laptop | the Magnificent demands your obedience! |
00:51.16 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm * r16 / (2 files in 1 directory): Broker_Itemlist |
00:51.19 | Repo | -added currency scanning to automatically add currencies you have |
00:51.21 | Repo | -don't show tooltip if not tracking anything |
01:05.33 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r59 / (2 files in 1 directory): Optional loot announce |
01:12.55 | VonhintenHOME` | These 2.5" SSD's come with conversion kits for 3.5" mounting? |
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01:23.54 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm 04v1.6 * r17 : Tagging as v1.6 |
01:27.06 | Xinhuan | whe |
01:27.10 | Xinhuan | whew |
01:27.10 | Xinhuan | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/15864309119-new-ptr-build-paladin-changes.html |
01:27.19 | Xinhuan | that crusader strike change won't go thru |
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01:58.53 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r60 options.lua: announce loot option placement change |
02:02.49 | Odlaw | omfg.. my guild is retarded.. failed at spore loser.. someone had to use mirror images. |
02:03.49 | Odlaw | not exactly important.. but highlights our retards. |
02:04.41 | Hjalte | Odlaw: Maybe it's a mage problem. One of ours decided to just switch to a spore and kill it last time we tried :) |
02:09.55 | Odlaw | he 'missclicked' his hotkey |
02:14.12 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb * r45 / (2 files in 1 directory): Version 1.98 |
02:15.32 | Repo | 10vendorsearch: 03adriweb 04v1.98 * r46 : Tagging as v1.98 |
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02:29.56 | Hjalte | Damn. I just realised I missed all the loot from KT in my tracker from our Naxxramas run. I hate it when people are disconnecting. |
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02:41.38 | Odlaw | I hate unannounced afks too |
02:41.44 | Codealpha | how do i acess the curseforge svn? |
02:41.56 | ckknight | with svn. |
02:42.21 | Codealpha | i have tortoise svn |
02:42.31 | Codealpha | getting a repo not found |
02:42.41 | ckknight | gotta tell me the real message |
02:43.11 | Codealpha | can't connect to host svn.curseforge.com or .net |
02:43.36 | ckknight | what url? |
02:43.37 | Odlaw | .com |
02:43.49 | ckknight | no |
02:43.53 | ckknight | well, that's wrong |
02:43.54 | ckknight | but |
02:43.59 | Codealpha | im using svn://svn.curseforge.com |
02:44.02 | ckknight | what svn url |
02:44.03 | ckknight | ? |
02:44.04 | ckknight | that's wrong. |
02:44.06 | ckknight | it's .net |
02:44.12 | ckknight | what repo url? |
02:44.14 | ckknight | the full one. |
02:44.28 | Odlaw | oops :) |
02:44.45 | Codealpha | svn://svn.curseforge.net/wow/ |
02:44.50 | ckknight | wrong |
02:44.58 | ckknight | you need a project |
02:45.03 | ckknight | and a repository name |
02:45.34 | Aiiane | lolwhat |
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02:45.34 | Aiiane | someone trying to create carbonite as a project on CF |
02:45.34 | ckknight | Aiiane: it's "lol wut" |
02:45.38 | Aiiane | no |
02:45.39 | Aiiane | in this case |
02:45.49 | Aiiane | I was literally lol'ing and going "what" at the same time |
02:45.50 | Codealpha | ckknight: how do i get that info? |
02:46.06 | ckknight | what project are you trying to check out? |
02:46.07 | Codealpha | i'm trying to get the beta from assesement |
02:46.12 | ckknight | okay |
02:46.29 | ckknight | so you'd go to http://www.wowace.com/projects/assessment/repositories/mainline/ |
02:46.40 | ckknight | thus showing you svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/assessment/mainline/trunk |
02:47.40 | Codealpha | ah ok i get it now |
02:47.41 | Codealpha | thanks |
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02:51.28 | SumpinFishy | Hmmm...not sure where to start, trying to get some help on PB4 and provide some feedback. Is forums the best place? or here? or ticket? |
02:52.20 | SqueeG | Do you think there's like... an official Forum Trolling guild out there |
02:52.25 | SqueeG | or.. Union |
02:55.03 | VonhintenHOME` | So, say I got an 80GB Intel SSD... how long could I expect it to work before it fails (in SSD style.. too many writes per NAND) |
02:59.14 | ckknight | SumpinFishy: ticket |
02:59.20 | ckknight | SumpinFishy: it's the best way I'll see it |
02:59.28 | ckknight | got a question |
02:59.41 | ckknight | which is the most awesome/funnest clothie? |
03:00.14 | VonhintenHOME` | I haven't tried them all, but I like playing my mage... arcane currently, interesting mana management |
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03:00.36 | SumpinFishy | Thanks, will do |
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03:10.16 | Codealpha | VonhintenHOME`: as long as you defrag like a normal drive its fine |
03:10.31 | VonhintenHOME` | supposed to not defrag these things |
03:10.37 | Codealpha | you can |
03:10.57 | VonhintenHOME` | you can, but it's pointless, and just increases writes for nothing |
03:11.11 | VonhintenHOME` | should do its own defragging internally |
03:12.31 | Codealpha | i use hyperfast by diskeeper and let it run in the background |
03:12.40 | Codealpha | noticed a mess in internal space with it disabled |
03:13.04 | Codealpha | i have an ocz120gb |
03:13.13 | SqueeG | SSD's currently have like a 10 year life or something? |
03:13.19 | Codealpha | dont know about intel |
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03:13.36 | VonhintenHOME` | According to Intel, 5 year minimum usage, assuming 20GB daily writes |
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03:13.41 | SqueeG | Dammit, why can i never recall the useless information that i look up when i actually need it |
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03:13.51 | VonhintenHOME` | more than that it kicks in Endurance Management features |
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03:13.59 | VonhintenHOME` | whatever the fuck that means |
03:14.47 | Codealpha | i am just using the drive for games at the moment |
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03:15.00 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, that's all I'd use it for... main partition |
03:15.02 | Codealpha | will install windows7 beta to give it a whirl |
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03:15.17 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm just worried that having a page file, etc on it will shorten its life |
03:15.27 | Codealpha | i love the fact that wow instantly loads after a HS |
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03:17.05 | Codealpha | you will not see any improvement with fps thats for sure |
03:18.27 | Odlaw | anyone know any mods that can track/guess internal cooldowns of trinkets/etc? |
03:18.39 | VonhintenHOME` | no, but I will see less studder walking around, and my load times.. I run like 60 addons |
03:18.49 | VonhintenHOME` | will love to shrink that down to 10 sec or less |
03:18.58 | Codealpha | loading is instant |
03:19.38 | Codealpha | dalaran after a hearthstone |
03:19.38 | Codealpha | no more black shadows waiting to load |
03:20.17 | Codealpha | VonhintenHOME`: this is a good article |
03:20.18 | Codealpha | http://forums.slizone.com/index.php?showtopic=29361 |
03:20.38 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r61 / (4 files in 1 directory): configurable timers |
03:20.48 | VonhintenHOME` | I read that article already |
03:21.34 | SqueeG | lmao |
03:21.51 | SqueeG | there's a wee little program to watch my tax filing status :p |
03:23.42 | Codealpha | Odlaw: i dont know if power auras tracks internal cooldowns of trinkets |
03:24.57 | Odlaw | ok |
03:25.23 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r62 / (3 files in 1 directory): options layout and you can't bid less than 1 |
03:26.37 | Codealpha | accoring to the description it does |
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03:33.25 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r63 / (2 files in 1 directory): number formats |
03:38.36 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r64 options.lua: Josua hates disabling options when trackloot is off. |
03:41.59 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont 04v0.4 beta * r65 : |
03:42.02 | Repo | Implementing some requested features by other users of the mod. |
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03:59.39 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r67 options.lua: josua's ballchin is legend. |
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05:17.04 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r73 / (7 files in 2 directories): Red background for undercuts on "Show My Auctions". |
05:17.07 | Repo | Allow zero buyout. |
05:17.10 | Repo | More tooltip code cleanup. |
05:17.13 | Repo | Config dialog cleanup. |
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05:37.29 | Antiarc | Tekkub: Heh, I just saw that you forked jrails. |
05:37.44 | Tekkub | yea |
05:37.48 | Tekkub | silly jrails |
05:37.58 | Antiarc | I just fixed it for 1.9, so \o/ |
05:38.21 | Tekkub | I forget what it was I had to fix in it |
05:38.40 | Tekkub | oh, forgery tokens and fragment caching |
05:39.00 | Tekkub | we were caching ajax links with tokens in them, so when the user got a new session everything went to shit |
05:39.09 | Antiarc | Heh, fun |
05:39.11 | Tekkub | they started getting 401 auth denied for everything |
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05:51.17 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r112 / (5 files in 3 directories): - Added loot distribution dialogs. |
05:51.20 | Repo | - Split DKP Bidder config into sub sections. |
05:51.23 | Repo | - Added option to disable/enable MagicDKP Client and whisper bidding support (you can not use one or both) |
05:51.26 | Repo | - Redid some localized strings in preparation to use the localization system. |
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06:12.18 | Repo | 10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r17 / (4 files in 3 directories): - Minor config ui changes. |
06:12.21 | Repo | - Removed accidental duplicates of two functions. |
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06:30.36 | Repo | Removed trailing "s" from the Sound_EnableAllSound CVar. |
06:30.39 | Repo | Added ability to select presets volume levels and toggles, with an option to reset to default values. |
06:30.42 | Repo | Temporarily added "Solo" and "Raid" presets until I code user-defined presets. |
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06:51.21 | dieck | hi there. has anyone seen the stats of the 3.1 legendary yet? |
06:51.32 | Neebler` | http://kotaku.com/5181300/onlive-makes-pc-upgrades-extinct-lets-you-play-crysis-on-your-tv |
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06:55.56 | Fisker- | No. |
06:56.37 | Fisker- | it'll fail |
06:56.39 | Fisker- | no doubt about it |
06:57.44 | sb|work | CRY |
06:57.45 | sb|work | QQQQQ |
06:57.50 | sb|work | divine hymn nerfbat :o |
06:59.41 | nevcairiel | bah i need someone on the ptr to test my new fun with raidframes and vehicles |
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07:02.12 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: You're on the german ptr servers? |
07:02.31 | nevcairiel | I have chars on frodring and remulos |
07:02.36 | nevcairiel | *fordring |
07:02.43 | Hjalte | You fail, I'm on Brill :) |
07:03.46 | nevcairiel | I wish i could invite my own char into raid =P |
07:04.01 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r114 Locales (8 files in 1 directory): Fixed help typo. |
07:04.27 | Fisker- | Hjalte you can create characters on a server :O |
07:04.34 | Fisker- | lets do it and harass nevcairiel |
07:04.43 | nevcairiel | as long as i get a raid group out of it |
07:07.29 | Hjalte | That's me by the way. |
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07:13.09 | Fisker- | madness |
07:13.13 | Fisker- | Warhammer ad on wowhed |
07:13.17 | Fisker- | wowhead* |
07:15.21 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r115 Bidder/Bidder.lua: - Fixed possible vanishing distribution buttons. |
07:15.28 | NeoTron | weird just had another case of missing Ace3 widgets |
07:15.34 | NeoTron | wonder why the heck I have that issue |
07:15.57 | Fisker- | so nevcairiel you still need halp? |
07:16.07 | nevcairiel | nah |
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07:19.57 | nevcairiel | its working, yay |
07:20.05 | nevcairiel | functional vehicle switch for raid frames =) |
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07:26.54 | sb|work | nevcairiel: uhm.. |
07:27.01 | sb|work | so raid frames for vehicles? |
07:27.10 | NeoTron | nice |
07:27.16 | nevcairiel | Raid Frames can now seitch to the vehicle when a player enters one |
07:27.20 | NeoTron | so now we do't need stupid pet frames for vehicles |
07:27.22 | sb|work | oh, cool |
07:27.22 | nevcairiel | so you can see HP and target them |
07:27.30 | nevcairiel | without extra frames |
07:27.31 | sb|work | you patched that in sRF? |
07:27.34 | NeoTron | now what happens if they enter a passenger slot? |
07:27.36 | sb|work | thats cool :) |
07:27.49 | sb|work | NeoTron: i think its a sperate vehicle unit |
07:27.53 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: you still target them, i reckon. It all works on UnitHasVehicleUI |
07:27.54 | sb|work | you also have different HP and stuff |
07:28.11 | NeoTron | cool for Malygos |
07:28.11 | nevcairiel | sb|work: there are passenger slots that can still cast their own shit |
07:28.13 | sb|work | (thats how it works in flame leviathan fight at least) |
07:28.26 | nevcairiel | and have their own HP |
07:28.28 | sb|work | nevcairiel: yeah, but they also have their own hp |
07:28.30 | nevcairiel | but are not targeted at all |
07:28.31 | sb|work | thats what i said! :P |
07:28.35 | NeoTron | nice for flame leviathan too ofc to see riad status |
07:28.37 | sb|work | oh hm :) |
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07:28.51 | NeoTron | but less critial since you can't heal there anyway |
07:28.58 | sb|work | so this donation button, is it gone from addons only or also from wowace/cf? |
07:29.01 | NeoTron | and can't pick who tanks :P |
07:29.07 | nevcairiel | sb|work: only ingame |
07:29.10 | nevcairiel | is gone |
07:29.28 | sb|work | oh, there is no donation button on wowace :p |
07:29.38 | nevcairiel | You can set one up |
07:29.59 | nevcairiel | hahaha awesome |
07:30.02 | nevcairiel | i went afk on the PTR |
07:30.05 | nevcairiel | and something awesoem happend |
07:30.07 | NeoTron | so nevcairiel ever had any reports of AceGUI elements becoming, and staying, hidden? |
07:30.34 | nevcairiel | for some reason i learned all the spells from my second spec |
07:30.37 | NeoTron | seems a bit odd that I've seen it in two different situations now (and I can't reproduce it so no clue why) |
07:30.43 | nevcairiel | so now i'm a resto druid with Mangle |
07:30.50 | NeoTron | hot |
07:33.27 | nevcairiel | I wonder what happens with the code on 3.0 |
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07:45.35 | NeoTron | so I'm pretty sure Mimiron is the 4th person you don't actually kill |
07:45.46 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r74 / (3 files in 1 directory): Quick fix to undercuts. |
07:45.49 | Repo | Bumped version number to 1.0. |
07:45.51 | NeoTron | since everything references "the keepers of ulduar" and he's one of the 4 |
07:46.36 | digmouse | Shirt of Uber woot |
07:46.56 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r636 sRaidFrames.lua: |
07:46.59 | Repo | Support for the 3.1 vehicle enhancements introduced in build 9722. This will allow you to target the raid members vehicles using the default raid frames, as well as showing the vehicles HP and Power. |
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07:50.11 | NeoTron | aha here's Mimiron's death: "It would appear that I made a slight miscalculation. I allowed my mind to be corrupted by that fiend in the prison! Over-riding my primary directive. All systems seem to be functional now. Clear. " |
07:51.40 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg 04v1.0 * r75 : Tagging as v1.0 |
07:51.43 | Repo | - GetSellValue and GetAuctionBuyout |
07:51.46 | Repo | - Miscellaneous cleanup and bug fixes |
07:52.14 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Two weeks after I got sick of sraidframes deficiencies, you resurrect and improve it instead of slapping Antiarc around over his dropdown code. :) |
07:52.28 | nevcairiel | so? |
07:52.29 | nevcairiel | :) |
07:52.32 | Torhal | Heh |
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07:56.15 | nevcairiel | !api GetItemInfo |
07:56.15 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetItemInfo' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemInfo |
07:57.32 | sb|work | woaaah *sigh* |
07:57.56 | sb|work | nevcairiel: discussion about legendary is getting worse... %-) we no have an open discussion |
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07:58.27 | sb|work | and people are (mostly) like "just giev it to him" (=me), except some are "but whwats with shadowpriests???" (well.. ignore them) |
07:58.46 | sb|work | and no my gf is crying why people only want to give it to me and not to her.. *siigh* :p |
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07:59.08 | sb|work | (the legendary... stop thinking other stuff...) |
07:59.29 | nevcairiel | lol |
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07:59.57 | nevcairiel | today is flame leviathan, perfect for testing my sRF changes |
08:00.01 | sb|work | hehe yup |
08:00.24 | nevcairiel | I tested with the wyrmrest daily so far |
08:00.30 | nevcairiel | it works for my frame =P |
08:04.54 | sb|work | but i still dont know whats causing this border around my screen in combat ;p |
08:05.31 | nevcairiel | did you try devtools and frame stack? |
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08:08.08 | sb|work | no, just tried that mouseover getmousefocus(?) macro |
08:08.10 | sb|work | and doesnt work |
08:08.33 | nevcairiel | because they are not mouse-enabled |
08:08.50 | sb|work | so devtools would work here? |
08:08.54 | sb|work | will try later |
08:08.57 | nevcairiel | yea |
08:09.02 | nevcairiel | except if the frame doesn't have a name |
08:09.04 | sb|work | (7h work to go... :o) |
08:09.10 | nevcairiel | then it shows "table: xxxxxx" |
08:09.14 | nevcairiel | (not helpful) |
08:18.06 | Fisker- | giev screenshots nevcairiel |
08:18.08 | Fisker- | or i hate you |
08:21.08 | kadrahil | nevcairiel, poke |
08:21.12 | nevcairiel | ? |
08:21.23 | kadrahil | any chance of bt4 bars snapping both vertically and horizontally? |
08:21.28 | kadrahil | if you get what i'm saying |
08:21.36 | nevcairiel | they should |
08:21.42 | kadrahil | well |
08:21.47 | kadrahil | the last few versions i've tried this |
08:22.06 | kadrahil | if i move a bar ontop of another one, it snaps, then when i align them horizontally, say with the center of the screen |
08:22.12 | kadrahil | it unsnaps the vertical alignment |
08:22.16 | kadrahil | and i have to eyeball it |
08:22.22 | kadrahil | i think i'm confusing myself now |
08:22.30 | nevcairiel | if you have one bar placed somewhere, and move a second bar on top of it, it should snap to fit exactly on top of it, both vertically and horizontally |
08:22.39 | kadrahil | right |
08:22.44 | kadrahil | it should, but it never has worked that way for me |
08:23.11 | kadrahil | gonna give it another shot again just to prove to myself |
08:23.13 | kadrahil | that i'm nto stupid. |
08:23.17 | kadrahil | not* |
08:23.28 | nevcairiel | If you start moving the first bar, you have to snap the second bar again, it won't move together with it |
08:23.37 | kadrahil | yeah |
08:24.19 | nevcairiel | I want to add UI options to manually adjust the positon, that way you could just make sure the numbers are the same for both bars |
08:24.25 | nevcairiel | if snapping fails |
08:25.04 | kadrahil | i wonder if i could fraps this |
08:25.21 | Fisker- | cries |
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08:27.54 | Fisker- | also nevcairiel giev screenshot :( |
08:28.04 | nevcairiel | of what? |
08:28.06 | kadrahil | nevcairiel, just figured this out - if they're snapped to the center of the screen, that's when the vertical snapping unsaps if it snaps horizontally |
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08:28.12 | Fisker- | of that feature in bartender you talked about :o |
08:28.28 | nevcairiel | they can snap to the center of the screen? |
08:28.30 | kadrahil | nevcairiel, if i move a bar to some random place on my screen and try snapping another bar to it both directions it works perfectly |
08:28.33 | nevcairiel | curious. |
08:28.39 | kadrahil | yes |
08:28.45 | nevcairiel | i never intended that :D |
08:28.47 | kadrahil | they snap horizontally in the center |
08:28.48 | kadrahil | haha |
08:28.54 | kadrahil | it is rather nice to have |
08:29.12 | kadrahil | holding shift to drag it into vertical position isn't really a problem |
08:29.14 | Fisker- | that vehicle stuff nevcairiel |
08:29.19 | kadrahil | it's just something i thought i'd bring up |
08:29.39 | nevcairiel | the snapping stuff makes me mad :/ |
08:29.58 | kadrahil | do you at least get what i was trying to describe? |
08:30.02 | nevcairiel | yea |
08:30.10 | kadrahil | short of me compressing and uploading this 750mb fraps video i just took |
08:30.11 | kadrahil | ok |
08:30.35 | nevcairiel | I wonder if i can improve on that |
08:31.17 | kadrahil | they will actually snap to the center of teh screen both horizontally and vertically |
08:33.17 | selckin | like trying to line up bt4 bars all on the left of the screen, they snap to the screen, but not to each other top/bottom, really annoying |
08:36.17 | Repo | 10menotes: 03malikibala * r2 / (36 files in 6 directories): First Commit |
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08:37.20 | Natherul | hey all, i got a bit of problem with the ingame calendar as i get this error: http://paste.wowace.com/378/ anyonne care to help me figure out why? |
08:37.54 | nevcairiel | I'm going to takea bet and blame ShowDKP |
08:38.18 | orionshock | anyone finish filtering though all the Bullshit in the New Policy thread on the blizzard forums? |
08:38.32 | nevcairiel | there isn't much to filter out |
08:38.38 | nevcairiel | its all alot of BS and hate |
08:38.38 | Natherul | ok, im gonna disable it <nevcairiel> and see if i dont get the error then |
08:39.01 | orionshock | nevcairiel: was 90% of the useful information in the first 20 or so pages? |
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08:41.26 | Repo | 10menotes: 03malikibala * r3 AceGUI-3.0/: Project was abandoned. |
08:42.57 | Natherul | navacairiel: i still get an error, lot smaller now though: [09:42:09] ...rface\AddOns\Blizzard_Calendar\Blizzard_Calendar.lua:882: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
08:43.30 | nevcairiel | i dunno then |
08:43.54 | Natherul | never seen that type of eror before? |
08:44.37 | nevcairiel | it looks like some addon causes an internal array to break down |
08:44.48 | nevcairiel | do you have any addons that work with the calendar? |
08:46.25 | Natherul | not that i know of |
08:47.05 | Natherul | if you want u can get a list of all my addons but i doubt that will help you very much |
08:47.28 | orionshock | Natherul: what addon is "ShowDKP" in? |
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08:47.50 | Natherul | what u mean in? |
08:48.04 | orionshock | look at the stack trace, it drops in to an addon called "ShowDKP" |
08:48.17 | orionshock | i don't see it as a project on wowace... didn't check curse |
08:48.30 | Natherul | well it is on curse |
08:49.15 | Natherul | its an addon that tells my members of my guild what dkp they have when they /w me |
08:51.28 | Repo | 10menotes: 03malikibala * r4 / (23 files in 9 directories): Organizing directory structure |
08:53.22 | Repo | 10menotes: 03malikibala * r5 Libs (35 files in 6 directories): Ace3 libs added |
08:53.23 | nevcairiel | somehow i think he fails |
08:54.12 | orionshock | Natherul: try doing this "/dump issecurevariable("CalendarEventGetInvite")" |
08:54.19 | orionshock | or /dump issecurevariable("CalendarEventGetInvite") |
08:54.30 | orionshock | ^^ w/o the start & end quotes |
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08:58.06 | orionshock | Bliz_Calendar.lua:883 -- MFS HACK: doing this because we don't have class names in global strings |
08:58.09 | orionshock | lol |
08:58.12 | Natherul | orion that did not work |
08:58.37 | orionshock | try /run print(issecurevariable("CalendarEventGetInvite") ) |
08:58.46 | orionshock | some people don't have a /dump >.> |
08:59.30 | Natherul | same issue |
08:59.46 | orionshock | case sensitive |
08:59.53 | Natherul | yeah i cpoied it |
08:59.59 | Natherul | *copied |
09:00.16 | orionshock | it should put "1 nil" into the chat frame |
09:01.01 | Natherul | yeah that it did but i still got the error in the calendar |
09:01.17 | orionshock | that was the idea, it wasn't ment to fix but to troubleshoot |
09:01.38 | orionshock | what that means, the "1 nil" is that that function isn't being hooked.. |
09:01.44 | Natherul | aha |
09:01.58 | Natherul | and any idea on how to fix or what made it like that? |
09:02.13 | orionshock | well what you have there is a good old fasion blizzard bug |
09:02.26 | orionshock | unload all your mods and then reproduce the problem |
09:02.42 | orionshock | you should get a nice red message box in the middle of your screen |
09:02.46 | orionshock | then go post on the BugForums |
09:03.01 | Fisker- | Doesn't the calendar support signups now? |
09:03.19 | orionshock | Fisker-: PTR or live? |
09:03.23 | Fisker- | PTR |
09:03.47 | orionshock | would be nice, but that would be a big thing.. so prolly not |
09:04.00 | Fisker- | hmm |
09:04.01 | Repo | 10menotes: 03malikibala * r6 / (21 files in 8 directories): Small update |
09:04.10 | Fisker- | i thought they mentioned something like that on the ui forums |
09:04.59 | Natherul | yeah orion, that is the [09:42:09] ...rface\AddOns\Blizzard_Calendar\Blizzard_Calendar.lua:882: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) error |
09:05.18 | Repo | 10menotes: 03malikibala * r7 Libs/LibStub (2 files in 1 directory): Missing Lib |
09:05.22 | Elkano | orionshock, mind to NOT force people into my blacklist in GC? |
09:05.35 | orionshock | eh? |
09:06.21 | orionshock | explain Elkano.. prolly found an unintended effect |
09:06.54 | Elkano | there are names showing up in the blacklist but I never added anyone |
09:07.14 | orionshock | the only thing that populates that for you is people from your ignore list |
09:07.30 | Elkano | hmmm.... |
09:07.31 | Groktar | http://www.fukung.net/v/2193/1169744852981.gif |
09:07.32 | Groktar | what a beast |
09:07.54 | orionshock | granted if you take them off your ignore list, you have to unblacklist them manually |
09:08.11 | Repo | 10libtagcompiler-2-0: 03Phanx * r7 / (4 files in 1 directory): - Stop messing with my file names dammit! |
09:08.15 | Repo | - Pull in LibStub via externals |
09:11.01 | Natherul | orion, did you mean that i shall post it in the wow official forum for bugs? |
09:11.27 | orionshock | Natherul: yes |
09:11.56 | orionshock | i'd also mention what toon / realm / time as well. that way they can pull it up and cross reference what the API was doing |
09:12.42 | orionshock | 90% of the calendar is all local and protected so any problem is blizzard's fault. expecialy if there are no addons |
09:14.34 | Natherul | oron sorry to be such a pain but never used official forum before and i cant find the bug place, can i plz get a link? ^ |
09:14.42 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r76 / (2 files in 1 directory): Implement shift-click in "Buy" tab. |
09:14.45 | Repo | Ignore control/alt-right-click when not at the AH. |
09:15.11 | orionshock | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?sid=1&forumId=10023 |
09:15.27 | orionshock | and ofc, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11228564616&sid=1 |
09:15.33 | orionshock | ^^ read that one first :) |
09:16.22 | Natherul | no wonders i did not find it, im european player and that from the american |
09:18.37 | orionshock | hehe, eu forums don't have a bug reports section... |
09:19.15 | Natherul | i guess i have to post in tech suppost on EU |
09:19.51 | orionshock | well do a write up and i'll post it for you on the US forums |
09:20.14 | Natherul | shall i give you a priv message on irc with the message then? |
09:20.24 | orionshock | that or pasty works :) |
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09:24.14 | pakoz | Any techies about? |
09:24.53 | pakoz | I was looking into this new service called OnLive and wanted to discuss its practicalities(sp) |
09:26.30 | pakoz | maybe practicalities isn't the right word - but i'd like to discuss it at any rate |
09:30.02 | Grum | i doubt that has anything to do with wow pakoz :p |
09:30.11 | pakoz | oh it does ;p |
09:30.16 | pakoz | OnLive is a video game service |
09:30.23 | Grum | is it wow? no .. bay |
09:30.33 | pakoz | potentially |
09:30.54 | Grum | then shouldnt you be talking to blizzard? :) |
09:31.29 | pakoz | I don't want to sell it, I want to criticize it ;/ |
09:31.49 | Grum | but wouldnt it be better if we wouldnt know about it? |
09:32.00 | Grum | so then we dont have to add it to the long list of stuff we hate and despise |
09:32.31 | pakoz | Thats why I seek another's opinion - possibly someone who holds a different opinion ;] |
09:34.25 | pakoz | No bites, o well off to bed - gnight |
09:39.06 | Groktar | licks pak |
09:39.23 | Kalroth | kinky |
09:39.51 | Groktar | whispers a lewd suggestion into Kalroth's ear |
09:39.57 | Groktar | winks slylu at Kalroth |
09:39.58 | orionshock | TMI |
09:40.08 | orionshock | :P |
09:40.21 | Kalroth | forwards the suggestion to orionshock. |
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09:56.11 | orionshock | ping nevcairiel |
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09:57.25 | orionshock | he's prolly not arround or watching IRC ... |
09:57.27 | orionshock | eh well |
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10:06.20 | Fisker- | i am having hate |
10:17.12 | _SunTsu | Fisker-: so, business as usual |
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10:49.23 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r637 sRaidFrames.lua: Schedule a full update after entering a vehicle |
10:51.59 | sb|work | so nevcairiel, when will you start coding nevcastbar? :p |
10:52.23 | haste | when he's done patching oUF! |
10:52.30 | nevcairiel | shh |
10:53.05 | haste | the login server finally let me in! |
10:55.01 | ramoz | :O |
10:56.43 | Kalroth | poor nev |
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12:21.03 | sb|work | Fisker-: do something funny, i'm bored.. |
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12:45.33 | sb|work | bah |
12:45.42 | sb|work | this weather is killing me :o |
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12:55.17 | kagaro | well here is an interesting conundrum with the new policy. a gaming magazine wants to include one of the addons i manage to distrubute on DVD with their magazine. Would that violate clause #1 if there was no link to the curse project page? |
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13:03.48 | krka | kif, we have a conumdrum. search them for paper and bring me a rock |
13:04.42 | krka | i think it would be fine, as long as there is an easy and official way to get it without paying for it |
13:04.54 | krka | which, i believe, is the intent behind the policy |
13:05.00 | krka | but IANAL |
13:05.09 | krka | (IJPOOTI) |
13:06.04 | nevcairiel | s that an official acronym i'm supposed to know? |
13:06.53 | krka | I just play one on the internet |
13:07.02 | nevcairiel | hehe |
13:08.26 | krka | no pun intended |
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13:22.30 | ShaneSveller | good morning all, are there any wowace forum threads regarding the new addon policy? a cursory search didn't turn up anything and I'm really curious how many of you feel about things as they stand. |
13:24.39 | Stanzilla | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=16063 < |
13:25.25 | ShaneSveller | ah, sorry, that was a background tab i hadn't gotten to reading yet >.< |
13:26.06 | Stanzilla | :> |
13:26.09 | [Ammo] | I don't care for the policy |
13:26.11 | [Ammo] | apart from... |
13:26.13 | [Ammo] | ~c'thun |
13:26.13 | purl | [Ammo]: Is that a tentacle in your pants or are you happy to see me? |
13:27.07 | sb|work | uhm... |
13:27.35 | ShaneSveller | as a minimal author it won't affect me much, but as a player it surely will. luckily, I don't use Carb or QH. The only addon I'll miss thus far is Outfitter. |
13:27.54 | [Ammo] | purl came up with the acceptable quote |
13:27.56 | [Ammo] | ~c'thun |
13:27.57 | purl | [Ammo]: Is that a tentacle in your pants or are you happy to see me? |
13:28.00 | [Ammo] | now give me an offensive one |
13:28.02 | [Ammo] | goddamnit |
13:28.26 | [Ammo] | but then again BigWigs_AQ40 isn't really in use :) |
13:30.15 | ShaneSveller | but the consensus is that the CC won't really be affected by the current wording at least, right? |
13:31.42 | [Ammo] | dunno, not my problem :) |
13:32.16 | ShaneSveller | hehe |
13:32.22 | [Ammo] | but I doubt its affected |
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13:41.50 | kenlyric | the magic word is "required" |
13:42.14 | kenlyric | you are not required to pay to download from curse |
13:42.16 | ShaneSveller | right. CC isn't required to download anything so it sounds like a loophole to me. but IANAL |
13:44.18 | kenlyric | CC will stay in beta forever and nobody will ever have to pay |
13:44.24 | kenlyric | seriously how long has it been? |
13:45.25 | nevcairiel | CC was released last week |
13:45.29 | nevcairiel | the windows version that is |
13:45.40 | nevcairiel | Mac as a beta and should be released within the month |
13:47.10 | nevcairiel | Regarding the CC issue, for one the CC is not required to download anything, and the CC also works for free |
13:47.14 | nevcairiel | except that you have ads. |
13:48.48 | nevcairiel | You don't pay for downloading, you don't pay for support, you simply pay for ad-removal and to show your support |
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13:49.49 | Repo | Added nudge controls |
13:50.12 | krka | what is CC? |
13:50.22 | kagaro | curse client |
13:50.53 | Pneumatus | the fact that the CC isn't an addon probably helps as well :o |
13:50.59 | krka | it's a service |
13:51.12 | nevcairiel | Yes, and it works for free. |
13:51.28 | nevcairiel | I doubt blizzard will ban pages that offer a "pay for ad-removal" option |
13:51.33 | krka | "charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on" |
13:51.46 | Pneumatus | it's not related to any add-on |
13:51.59 | krka | an addon downloader is surely related to addons |
13:52.14 | nevcairiel | No-one charges for the Curse Client, though. |
13:52.21 | nevcairiel | Its free |
13:52.24 | quiescens | what exactly is the deal with carbonite that precipitated this? |
13:52.32 | Pneumatus | they made an ads-supported version |
13:52.33 | quiescens | or which supposedly did |
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13:52.42 | Pneumatus | which popped up adds every couple of minutes |
13:53.00 | nevcairiel | Curse, allakhazam/wowi, nearly every page offers a "premium" membership that simply removes ads and gives you a golden badge as a supporter |
13:53.13 | quiescens | plus they are web sites? |
13:53.22 | quiescens | doesn't this policy of theirs only affect in game addons? |
13:54.32 | Pneumatus | addons have a pretty specific meaning in WoW, aka the lua/xml/toc files in Interface/Addons/XXX |
13:54.47 | krka | the ad thing is only for ingame |
13:54.53 | ShaneSveller | right. |
13:54.54 | krka | the pay for thing is wherever |
13:55.15 | nevcairiel | IANAL either, but imho its really a big stretch to extrapolate the "pay-for" onto addon distribution sites with a premium feature that removes ads. |
13:55.20 | ShaneSveller | but it seems like "require" was the key word, as kenlyric pointed out |
13:55.47 | krka | doesn't say require in the policy |
13:55.53 | kenlyric | you are paying for automation of addon download |
13:56.01 | kenlyric | maybe it's requires? |
13:56.33 | nevcairiel | The automation is a side-effect of not showing ads anymore. Don't need to show ads, can automate the whole updating =P |
13:56.45 | krka | well, it does say require, but not really in the context of it being the only option |
13:56.49 | quiescens | if you can start heading down that line |
13:57.03 | quiescens | you could eventually end up with like, I pay my ISP to be able to download anything |
13:57.06 | quiescens | lol |
13:57.06 | kenlyric | that's what "require" means |
13:57.15 | kenlyric | if you give an option to not pay, you don't actually require payment |
13:57.31 | ShaneSveller | krka: require, mandatory and similar words seem to be pretty unambiguous to me. |
13:57.32 | krka | only if what i get is exactly the same thing |
13:57.37 | Pneumatus | what we really need is curse/wowinterface to take wowmatrix to court :> |
13:57.39 | nevcairiel | its like a form of donation really |
13:57.41 | krka | since one option is without ads, they're not the same |
13:57.42 | kenlyric | what you get is exactly the same thing |
13:57.42 | nevcairiel | You get addons for free |
13:57.45 | krka | i.e. it's a premium |
13:57.47 | kenlyric | you don't get different addons |
13:57.48 | quiescens | I would imagine it has to stop at the idea of whether the addon's creator is requiring payment |
13:57.54 | nevcairiel | if you choose to donate, you get ad removal as a bonus |
13:58.07 | krka | it's only "not requires" if you get the exact same thing for free |
13:58.15 | nevcairiel | Well you do |
13:58.20 | nevcairiel | the addon is the exact same thing |
13:58.21 | krka | no, not ad removal |
13:58.49 | ShaneSveller | krka: the policy doesn't really govern anything outside the addons themselves, so the ad removal is kind of moot, to blizz, imo |
13:58.54 | sb|work | nevcairiel: you dont have a "donate" button in your profile! :o |
13:59.06 | nevcairiel | sb|work: i can set those to profiles now too? |
13:59.10 | nevcairiel | checks |
13:59.21 | sb|work | uhm no idea |
13:59.25 | sb|work | in your addons |
13:59.40 | nevcairiel | Bartender has one, i think |
13:59.44 | nevcairiel | on wowace at least |
13:59.53 | sb|work | oh, right :p |
14:00.05 | krka | ShaneSveller: "charge for services related to the add-on" |
14:00.06 | sb|work | and where can i dontate to your casting bar addon? :p |
14:00.16 | nevcairiel | its all the same button |
14:00.18 | nevcairiel | :P |
14:00.32 | sb|work | mhpf :p |
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14:01.58 | Pneumatus | there's actually nothing in the wording of that policy that prohibits a 3rd party charging for premium versions/services related to addons etc |
14:02.07 | Pneumatus | it specifically says that "developers may not create ... " |
14:04.32 | krka | it takes a developer to create a downloader |
14:04.36 | krka | they dont just magically appear |
14:07.04 | Pneumatus | the wording implies that "developers" are addon authors |
14:07.21 | Peoii | And even if they somehow automagically were, the blanket opening statement of "All addons must be distributed free of charge" would cover the potential overlay. If it modifies the addon distrubution, it'd qualify. Modify the website or distribution software all you wish... but the addon itself must be given freely. |
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14:08.24 | Pneumatus | for example, if questhelper decided that they'd release the core code for free, but made the data available by a 3rd party who wasn't "the developer" which was charged for, that policy doesn't cover it |
14:08.49 | Pneumatus | as the developer isn't charging for services related to the addon at all |
14:09.13 | Peoii | It still has to be distributed freely. Regardless. That opening statement covers all avenues. |
14:09.16 | nevcairiel | I still think they would cut you down for that anyway =P |
14:09.38 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: someone is the developer of that "data plugin", and thus he breaks it |
14:09.52 | Pneumatus | no, the addon has to be distributed freely, not the additional data, Peoii |
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14:10.39 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: nothing prohibits you from creating data plugins, charging for them is what the policy covers, and if the developer isn't charging then who'd get the C/D :) |
14:10.57 | Peoii | That's still a part of the addon though Pneumatus... what is an addon but a collection of data and a means to manipulate that data? |
14:11.32 | Pneumatus | a single lua file just containing data isn't an addon |
14:11.49 | nevcairiel | I bet they could argue it qualifys |
14:11.59 | nevcairiel | besides, when they want to brign you down, they will anyway |
14:12.05 | Peoii | Yet it's located within the addon folder, which by blizzard definition would make it become an addon. And it's loaded during the addon process. |
14:12.12 | quiescens | what if you're offering data as a file which can be used |
14:12.22 | quiescens | for a standalone application |
14:12.23 | krka | isn't a lua file full of quest data copyright infringement? |
14:12.38 | quiescens | which happens to be offered as a big lua table |
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14:12.47 | quiescens | and then someone writes an addon that is capable of using that data |
14:12.51 | nevcairiel | krka: is storing their ids without any other data already copyrighted? |
14:13.09 | quiescens | they should just copyright all numbers from 1 - 100000 |
14:13.11 | quiescens | to be safe |
14:13.16 | nevcairiel | I mean, every DB page like wowhead stores alot of shit |
14:13.28 | krka | depends on what they include i suppose |
14:13.35 | krka | facts aren't copyrightable |
14:13.35 | Pneumatus | if you wanted to fight for copyright infringement though, you could argue that blizzard aren't protecting their IP anyway as it stands because many fansites already break EULA to datamine for their databases |
14:13.37 | krka | except in australia |
14:13.38 | krka | :P |
14:13.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
14:13.51 | Pneumatus | you can't choose to enforce your copyright sometimes and not others |
14:13.59 | krka | Pneumatus: yes you can |
14:14.06 | nevcairiel | its their decision who to sue |
14:14.17 | Peoii | Pneumatus: : Welcome to copyright law. You can pick and choose to your hearts content. |
14:14.41 | quiescens | pneumatus: its trademarks that have to be continuously upheld |
14:15.42 | quiescens | anyway, still |
14:15.51 | quiescens | the half page of dot points |
14:16.16 | quiescens | is highly ambiguous and probably too vague to be sure of anything |
14:16.51 | quiescens | it would probably be helpful if there was some clarification to some of the questions that have been asked |
14:17.07 | quiescens | but I don't suppose there has been anything further since the original announcement? |
14:17.39 | Peoii | It's ironic though that people are willing to raise bloody murder on something spelled out briefly, yet I wonder how many of the same individuals read things like their EULA when they installed Windows and realize they don't even technically own the software they're installing... |
14:17.57 | Peoii | shrugs. |
14:18.13 | quiescens | because the people affected by this are the developers |
14:18.14 | quiescens | not the end users |
14:18.32 | nevcairiel | No-one "owns" software anyway, except if you wrote it yourself |
14:18.46 | nevcairiel | You just buy a license |
14:18.52 | Peoii | Was simply an example... but yea. |
14:19.22 | nevcairiel | ~hug sb|work |
14:19.23 | purl | ACTION hugs sb|work tightly until sb|work turns slightly blue |
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14:21.35 | Peoii | Mental note to self: Looking at policies after a long night of stareing at asm code debugging != productive. |
14:21.42 | quiescens | I just don't understand the donations part if the donation thingy only appears to the person using it |
14:22.33 | quiescens | you need to take some HLT's |
14:23.00 | sb|work | ~hug purl |
14:23.01 | purl | ACTION jumps into purl's lap and huggles and *hugs* purl |
14:23.08 | quiescens | heh |
14:24.00 | Peoii | lol |
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14:53.52 | nevcairiel | morning ckknight |
14:54.59 | ckknight | howdy, nevcairiel |
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14:56.06 | Dark_Elf | i see the wowbros took their stuff off the internet |
14:56.52 | AckisWork | who? |
14:57.17 | nevcairiel | i think some guide dealy |
14:57.56 | Dark_Elf | yeah it was a guide leveling addon that they wanted people to buy |
14:58.35 | AckisWork | ah |
14:58.58 | Dark_Elf | i think the addon is still on curse though |
14:58.59 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bubbleloot/. BubbleLoot. bubblecannon (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
15:10.02 | Dark_Elf | i swear the trolls and orcs have it harder than the bloodelves when starting, seems one can do the blood elves quests quicks the trolls and orcs have much harder quests |
15:13.44 | ckknight | blood elves and draenei have easy and fun starting areas |
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15:13.58 | ckknight | since they were made after |
15:14.06 | ckknight | and also to entice people to play those races |
15:14.18 | Dark_Elf | perhaps cause they island base the land is not as big i guess |
15:18.45 | Fisker- | i'm a firestarter |
15:19.04 | thul | THE FIRESTARTER |
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15:34.35 | Repo | Make sure the popup that appear with Talented are visible to the user |
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15:41.15 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/gridstatusself/. GridStatusSelf. mbf (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
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15:52.52 | sb|work | divine hymn down to 8k normal, 12k crit :o |
15:55.54 | Stanzilla | ;( |
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16:13.18 | Codealpha | is it possible to display ldb addons in a vertical position? |
16:13.35 | nevcairiel | anything is possible, that totally depends on your display addon |
16:14.02 | Fisker- | 31 degrees, 32, 33.... |
16:14.17 | Codealpha | im using fortress |
16:14.24 | Codealpha | but i see no option related to axis |
16:14.37 | nevcairiel | I'm not even sure i know a addon that does it |
16:14.49 | Codealpha | fisker: thats where you loctated? |
16:15.13 | Fisker- | that's what degrees i can bend a girder at |
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16:16.39 | Codealpha | girl? |
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16:17.53 | durcyn | hell of a commit message. |
16:18.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
16:18.07 | selckin | clearly obfuscated and illegal |
16:18.08 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r3 DailyIntake/DailyIntake.wowsln: llllllllllllllllllllllll |
16:18.14 | nevcairiel | @project dailyintake |
16:18.15 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/dailyintake/. DailyIntake. Game: WoW. Status: Changes required. Your project requires a better description. Please elaborate on what your project does, including basic functionality and intended use.. Jaerro (Manager/Author). Updated: 0 seconds from now |
16:18.18 | ulic | apparently we're testing? |
16:18.37 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r4 DailyIntake/DailyIntake/: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
16:18.55 | nevcairiel | too bad i can't punch him through the svn server |
16:19.07 | ulic | dailyintake: Jaerro * r5 DailyIntake/DailyIntake/: Is this thing working? |
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16:23.29 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r5 DailyIntake/: 485902436927690376 |
16:24.31 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r6 / (17 files in 5 directories): First checkin. |
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16:24.46 | nevcairiel | lol |
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16:32.42 | thul | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/fail-owned-soap-fail1.jpg?w=470&h=373 |
16:32.55 | thul | hugs nevcairiel while giving Fisker- a thourough fisting |
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16:39.11 | VonhintenHOME` | wtf, Immortal and Undying are being watered down |
16:39.32 | nevcairiel | old news |
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16:43.32 | Daemona | am i misreading http://blue.mmo-champion.com/13/8496299733-bug--invalid-guid-in-combat-log.html or did he basically say "screw you we dont care about the euro forums, use the ingame tool on the ptrs to report bugs" |
16:45.10 | nevcairiel | You can interpret a "screw you X" statement into any statement, imho =) |
16:45.24 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): First check-in. |
16:46.07 | nevcairiel | Devs and QA are US, i take no offense in that. As he said, i'm free to post them there to maybe discuss it, as long as i use the feedback tool so it reaches them |
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16:50.11 | Gnarfoz | EU PTRs are US PTRs, meh |
16:50.34 | [Ammo] | be glad |
16:50.42 | [Ammo] | at least your bug reports from the ingame tool reach the right people |
16:51.02 | [Ammo] | when posting at the EU forums you might as well post on the wall in your home toilet |
16:51.19 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
16:51.25 | thul | http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2009/03/teed_dies_after_police_use_tas.html <- interesting |
16:51.30 | Gnarfoz | but we've been stuck with this situation for over 4 years, so what's new |
16:51.30 | Gnarfoz | :p |
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17:03.12 | NeoTron | svnfail: Jaerro * r8 / (1 files in 10 directories): Fail at svn |
17:06.00 | Gnarfoz | hands NeoTron 1x[Internets] |
17:07.03 | nevcairiel | Gratz, you won the internets! |
17:08.23 | Gnarfoz | indeedily |
17:12.14 | NeoTron | heh |
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17:12.26 | NeoTron | nice recovery from my pastefail last night |
17:16.57 | Fisker- | better yet [Ammo] |
17:17.02 | Fisker- | just write on the toilet paper |
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17:20.10 | NeoTron | VonhintenHOME`: rather, ulduar immortal type achievements now achieveable without an inordinate amount of luck |
17:20.32 | NeoTron | I noticed it wasn't part of the meta either - the meta seems to be limited to hard mode kills |
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17:38.07 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r8 .pkgmeta: Moved folders in distribution package. |
17:42.36 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r9 .pkgmeta: Removed unnecessary files from distribution package. |
17:43.10 | |ncubus | NeoTron: its better that way. immortal was the only thing that held us back from the meta for 2 months. |
17:43.47 | Nenue | Phew, I can safely go back to trying to die in raids. |
17:44.22 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r10 .pkgmeta: |
17:44.36 | Repo | Removed more unnecessary files from the distribution package. |
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17:48.52 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r11 / (4 files in 2 directories): Added custom changelog. |
17:50.50 | NeoTron | I need Immortal for my 25 man drake |
17:50.55 | NeoTron | and two 20 man kills in Naxx.. |
17:51.30 | NivFreak | I just need immortal |
17:51.38 | NivFreak | and we lost it to what seems to be a sapphron bug |
17:51.40 | NivFreak | =/ |
17:51.41 | NivFreak | last week |
17:52.05 | durcyn | bug? did some idiot melee attack from behind an iceblock? |
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17:52.37 | NeoTron | so I wonder if Emalon the Stormwatcher is going to be supereasy too |
17:53.04 | NivFreak | durcyn: no, we had an iceblock almost by the door, 10 of us died behind it |
17:53.15 | NivFreak | aka, everyone behind that block |
17:53.17 | durcyn | sounds like a really dumb place to stand. |
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17:53.26 | NivFreak | why would that be a dumb place? |
17:53.27 | pompyclass | NivFreak: we were good up to sapphiron and the iceblocks came and this druid was killed even though he seemed to be behind an iceblock |
17:53.30 | pompyclass | and immortal was gone |
17:53.39 | durcyn | why would you use the bloody door? |
17:53.47 | NivFreak | because 2 of the iceblocks were in blizzard |
17:53.53 | NivFreak | it wasn't in the door |
17:53.55 | NivFreak | just almost to it |
17:53.59 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r474 / (6 files in 2 directories): remove XML, Animation can be created in pure lua. |
17:54.02 | Repo | Fix pet inactive talents even when no pet is available. |
17:54.07 | NivFreak | we've used blocks in that area every week |
17:54.10 | NeoTron | hmm |
17:54.14 | NivFreak | this is the first time we've had a problem |
17:54.18 | NeoTron | I wodner what kind of animations talented uses :P |
17:54.33 | pompyclass | that was the only death and the kt kill was flawless. |
17:54.55 | sb|work | NeoTron: glyph animations |
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18:00.41 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r253 / (2 files in 1 directory): BadBoy: blacklist update |
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18:06.03 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r475 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update spelldata to 9722. |
18:06.06 | Repo | Fix prereq information in talent tooltips |
18:07.36 | winkiller | where's that good old mod to show addon loading timed *cry* |
18:08.11 | durcyn | winkiller: get !!!Zoom!!! instead |
18:08.24 | durcyn | yes, that's many exclamation points. |
18:09.09 | winkiller | goes on a search |
18:11.26 | pompyclass | @project !!!Zoom!!! |
18:11.27 | Repo | pompyclass: No project found that matches '!!!zoom!!!' |
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18:19.55 | Primer | Anyone have any opinion as to what trainer/JC token blue quality gem sells the best? |
18:20.38 | Primer | hrmm, talented updated...I wonder if he's implementing dual specs |
18:21.01 | Primer | I still say that all addon developers should be required to hang out here |
18:21.05 | durcyn | Primer: he did that a while ago, and any red cut, runed/delicate/bold/etc |
18:21.18 | Primer | durcyn: awesome, thanks |
18:21.43 | durcyn | actually, probably spellpower moreso than the others |
18:21.52 | Primer | yeah, that's the one I buy the most |
18:22.15 | Primer | since I have 2 level 80 casters...cloth at that |
18:22.32 | durcyn | well, it's used by vastly more specs than str or agi or ap cuts |
18:22.46 | AckisWork | no one on my server has the meta I need =/ rejuvinating skyfire |
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18:24.35 | Primer | imagine when it finally drops |
18:24.41 | Primer | that dude's gonna make a killing |
18:25.26 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r12 / (4 files in 3 directories): Localization/Locale-enUS.lua |
18:25.40 | Primer | I know the dude that had a monopoly on purified twilight opal on my realm made a HUGE profit |
18:26.04 | Primer | when he was the only dude that had it |
18:26.38 | rsarno | whats a huge profit? |
18:27.40 | Primer | enough to buy a tundra mammoth |
18:27.49 | Primer | people on my realm aren't that rich |
18:28.09 | rsarno | i dont know how much they go for, im asuming a lot but how much? 1kg? 5kg? |
18:28.11 | Primer | in fact, they're fucking cheap ass bastards that won't buy my 60 valor badge bracers for 1k |
18:28.18 | Primer | try 18k |
18:28.24 | rsarno | :o |
18:28.32 | rsarno | that damn mamoth goes for 18k?? |
18:28.37 | Primer | when LK came out, they were 21k |
18:28.40 | rsarno | i gotta admit they are pretty badass looking |
18:28.40 | Primer | vendor |
18:28.49 | Primer | they're not drops |
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18:29.20 | Primer | you get it from a vendor in Dalaran...surely you've seen them? They're the mount that has vendor and repair guys on them, and you can dismiss them and carry 2 players on it |
18:29.42 | rsarno | no i havent |
18:29.53 | rsarno | im lvl 61 and i dont know too much tbh lol |
18:29.59 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r13 DailyIntake/Localization/Locale-enUS.lua: Localization/Locale-enUS.lua |
18:30.03 | Primer | are you on a new realm? |
18:30.08 | AckisWork | is broke in wow but has both the vehicle mammoths |
18:30.13 | rsarno | grinded myself up for the most part, over 6 months |
18:30.17 | rsarno | im on zul'jin |
18:30.19 | Primer | I suppose new realms where people haven't accumulated that much money won't have any |
18:30.33 | Peoii | Primer: Those bracers used to go for upwards of 3k on my server... now? I'm lucky to get 1200 :/ But hey, I've got my chopper, so all is good. |
18:30.39 | rsarno | i have seen them, people in iron forge AH driving around on them showing off lol |
18:30.58 | Primer | Peoii: heh, I just don't want to be stuck with worthless badges when 3.1 comes |
18:31.08 | Peoii | lol, true that! |
18:31.13 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r476 / (4 files in 2 directories): Make the glyph button a toggle. |
18:31.18 | Pneumatus | can always trade them down anyway |
18:31.22 | Primer | go jerry! |
18:31.27 | Primer | man, I love talented |
18:31.34 | Pneumatus | for heroic badges to get BoA gear etc |
18:31.45 | Primer | heh, I have no more alts I care about |
18:31.48 | Peoii | Yea, if nothing else I'll just buy heroic badges and get frozen orbs... cause icy prisms ftw? |
18:32.00 | Primer | oh, there is that...I'm leveling JC |
18:32.03 | Primer | forgot about that |
18:32.16 | Pneumatus | icy prisms are worthless on my realm now unless you get a dragonseye or a red gem |
18:32.19 | Primer | still...60 badges...1k gold > 6 gems |
18:32.27 | Pneumatus | all the other gems are like 10g each |
18:32.32 | Primer | how many badges is an orb? 10? |
18:32.35 | Peoii | 10, yea |
18:32.35 | Pneumatus | yup |
18:32.49 | Peoii | on Cenarius, orange and red hold their value pretty well it seems |
18:32.52 | Peoii | the rest are garbage |
18:32.53 | Peoii | but yea |
18:32.59 | Pneumatus | the gem market has crashed because people are trading 10 badges for gems as well |
18:33.12 | Peoii | oh, and twilight opals... can make a killing on those |
18:33.17 | Primer | yeah, I kinda missed the boat |
18:33.34 | Primer | I just want enough gold to get epic + cold weather when my currently 70 DK reaches 77 |
18:33.42 | Primer | err + flying itself :) |
18:33.54 | Primer | level 70 flying is still 800 gold? |
18:33.55 | Peoii | The best money maker ever was I was one of the first people on my server with +16 hit... oh god... buy gems on the AH for 30g a pop, cut em, and flip them for 150g |
18:34.06 | Primer | nice |
18:35.19 | Pneumatus | i made a killing selling herbs after launch, farming the hell out of icecrown/stormpeaks/sholazzar while people were still levelling in HF/BT :) |
18:35.30 | Peoii | there ya go ;) |
18:35.58 | Pneumatus | making like 4/5k an hour at its peak |
18:36.15 | Peoii | worst was that my main is a JC/Inscriptionist... so it was a race to level my farmer after that |
18:36.25 | durcyn | selling glyphs for 150g a pop when 3.0 landed was pretty hilarious too |
18:36.30 | Peoii | lol |
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18:36.47 | Peoii | Glyph of Thunderstorm day of release == 5k without blinking |
18:37.08 | Pneumatus | same as glyphs like Glyph of the Ghoul when it got patched |
18:37.20 | Peoii | yup yup |
18:37.59 | Pneumatus | market manipulation is a damn site easier in WoW than it is in other mmos too |
18:38.54 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r14 DailyIntake/Localization/Locale-enUS.lua: Locale-enUS.lua |
18:39.07 | Peoii | aye |
18:39.58 | Peoii | it's annoying on my server just to how over populated we are... but it's still doable fairly easy if you pay attention to it |
18:40.37 | Pneumatus | i manipulate the mid level ores and herbs on my server when im bored :o |
18:40.47 | Primer | damn, can't say that I've ever made that much gold in a day |
18:41.11 | Peoii | Thorium is the single most expensive ore on my server by a LONG shot. |
18:41.20 | Primer | how much? |
18:41.28 | Primer | on mine it was selling for 100g a stack |
18:41.37 | Pneumatus | thorium and mithril both can get pretty pricey |
18:41.37 | Peoii | bout that |
18:41.43 | Primer | when I was leveling my DK's mining and JC |
18:41.54 | Pneumatus | BS needs an asston of thorium as well to level |
18:41.59 | Primer | heh, I needed to level mining, so I just farmed my own |
18:42.15 | Primer | I ended up prospecting it all too |
18:42.17 | Peoii | 100g or so a stack, and no one farms it... so I get bored, hit up winterspring, and go crazy til my 2x mammoth mining bags are full |
18:42.46 | Primer | btw, is there a JC bag? |
18:43.01 | Peoii | there's a gem bag, but there's not a sizeable one afaik |
18:43.16 | Primer | so only the vendor one |
18:43.24 | Peoii | not one I've ever bothered getting at least. Only special bag I use aside from gathering is the inscription 32 slotter. |
18:43.34 | Peoii | cause holy-inks batman |
18:43.43 | Primer | heh, I've been making 22 slot bags on my tailor |
18:43.54 | Primer | my lock has 3, my priest 3, and my DK 2 |
18:45.18 | Peoii | oye... extended maintience :/ |
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18:48.06 | Tuxbubling | hey there |
18:48.22 | Tuxbubling | ckknight: ping |
18:49.33 | Tuxbubling | http://pastebin.com/m31781ee7 << what zou think about this? |
18:50.10 | Primer | I think he doesn't care any more |
18:50.32 | Tuxbubling | Primer: reason? |
18:50.43 | Primer | other people are working on PB |
18:50.47 | Primer | and...is that PB3? |
18:50.50 | Tuxbubling | oh |
18:50.55 | Tuxbubling | zes it is |
18:50.58 | Tuxbubling | yes |
18:51.08 | Tuxbubling | lattest release |
18:51.11 | Primer | yeah, then he cares even less |
18:51.14 | Primer | heh |
18:51.19 | Primer | <-- still uses PB3, btw |
18:51.41 | Fisker- | btw Ackis |
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18:51.53 | Fisker- | i am ballte.net support officer |
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18:51.59 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry 04v2.0-beta1-3.1.9722-only * r477 : Tagging as v2.0-beta1-3.1.9722-only |
18:52.06 | Fisker- | I need to verify any unused blizzcon codes |
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18:52.36 | Stanzilla | Primer: ckk is working on pb4 all the time? or what do you mean :P |
18:52.44 | Tuxbubling | Primer: what could be the problem?? |
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18:54.52 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r15 / (6 files in 3 directories): Localization changes |
18:54.59 | ckknight | what's all this, then? |
18:56.00 | Fisker- | Blizzard: "But we have ads so that users see all of our products" |
18:56.26 | Fisker- | Users: But why are the ads for something totally unrelated now? |
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18:56.37 | Fisker- | Blizzard: HURRRR, DURRR, HURRDURR, DERP DERP DERP |
18:56.45 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r16 DailyIntake/Localization (2 files in 1 directory): Localization changes |
18:56.46 | Camci | its their website / game and can do wtf they want ? |
18:57.22 | Fisker- | I can call your mom a slut too |
18:57.24 | Axodious | lol Fisker- |
18:57.27 | Fisker- | But that doesn't mean i should |
18:57.45 | Primer | Stanzilla: heh, don't listen to me :) |
18:58.39 | Camci | still doesnt make any sense why my mom would be a slut and why blizzard adds their ads on their website. its business, retard. |
18:58.40 | AckisWork | wow |
18:58.42 | AckisWork | Fisker-: |
18:58.53 | ckknight | Tuxbubling: your problem will be solved by switching to PB4 |
18:58.54 | ckknight | <.< |
18:58.55 | AckisWork | i can't believe i'm going to do this |
18:58.55 | ckknight | >.> |
18:59.02 | AckisWork | ~Fisker-++ |
18:59.26 | AckisWork | ckknight: i've been dicking around w/ tickets on CF and moving them and shit and sutff |
18:59.31 | ckknight | k |
18:59.34 | Tuxbubling | ckknight: actually i tried but..... well got lost sonehow |
18:59.36 | Tuxbubling | some |
18:59.57 | Codealpha | pb4 is easier to congifure than pb3 |
19:00.27 | Tuxbubling | not for me lol |
19:00.50 | Codealpha | then i'm sorry for you :) |
19:00.52 | ckknight | so would you please describe your difficulty in a ticket? |
19:00.59 | ckknight | I'm very thankful for advice |
19:01.06 | Fisker- | Camci and there's no reason to needlessly endanger their customers Camci |
19:01.07 | Primer | Tuxbubling: I hear you, man. I have a lot of time invested in configuring PB3 |
19:01.24 | Primer | Tuxbubling: so much so, that I even wrote a PB module to manage my layouts |
19:01.24 | Fisker- | especially not as the forums are accessed through subscriptions to begin with |
19:01.36 | ckknight | Primer: I'm not going to stop anyone from maintaining PB3 and keeping it going, that just won't be me. |
19:01.51 | Primer | ckknight: I totally understand |
19:02.00 | Fisker- | man i'm glad i found this adblock module for google chrome |
19:02.15 | Axodious | omg make the slots stop on my server |
19:02.17 | Primer | I've been waiting to hear that PB4 is "stable" before switching |
19:02.17 | Axodious | #@$#% |
19:02.21 | Tuxbubling | actually i don't know why and how, but it got all "config mode" only with stuff messing everzwhere |
19:02.36 | Tuxbubling | lemme try again |
19:02.38 | ckknight | Primer: okay, I can't promise that. But for the most part, it's real close. |
19:02.45 | Tuxbubling | i have to heal in dungeon right noy lol |
19:02.47 | Camci | endanger? its not like its anoying adds, i barely notice those adds. blizzard are a company and they advertise their other product on their very own website which i think is very legit. |
19:03.06 | Primer | Tuxbubling: re-install it? |
19:03.09 | Camci | either stfu or get some shit add blocker like a smart person |
19:03.11 | Axodious | ckk, how stable is pb4 at this point... like is there any glaring things you still can't see/do |
19:03.15 | Primer | cd Addons, rm -rf PitBull* |
19:03.28 | ckknight | Axodious: no death knight runes, and no full-frame highlight yet |
19:03.39 | Tuxbubling | Primer: doing it right now |
19:03.41 | Primer | what is full frame highlight? |
19:03.43 | Axodious | hm k, i think i might give it a whirl in a few then |
19:03.43 | Fisker- | Camci they're not their own ads |
19:03.50 | Fisker- | They've just moved away from that |
19:03.53 | Primer | like, magic/disease/poison/curse? |
19:03.54 | Fisker- | now it's pretty much anything goes |
19:03.56 | ckknight | like, when someone has a curse on them and you can heal curses, it highlights in PB3 |
19:03.57 | Camci | its their own products |
19:04.01 | Fisker- | not anymore |
19:04.01 | Primer | around the player's unit frame? |
19:04.04 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=18535&sid=1 |
19:04.11 | Axodious | yeah i have that turned off in pb3 anyway |
19:04.21 | Primer | ckknight: ahh, that's a showstopper |
19:04.23 | Fisker- | Unless they started going into the phone carrier service, mobile phone production, etc.-business |
19:04.30 | ckknight | Primer: keyword was 'yet' |
19:04.38 | ckknight | yea, give it a whirl, if you have any issues, tell me, Axodious |
19:04.41 | Camci | yea? 2 adds with world of warcraft miniature game and some comic serie |
19:04.48 | Axodious | will do |
19:04.49 | Camci | i think both is blizz :p |
19:05.46 | Axodious | ugh it's hard getting use to this new battle.net account stuff |
19:05.50 | Axodious | keep typing my old username |
19:06.35 | Axodious | although its nice being able to download diablo 2 rather than get a read error every 30 seconds while installing it off my cd |
19:07.01 | Camci | is there a way to merge your starcraft battle.net account with wow battle.net account? :p |
19:07.17 | Axodious | i'm not sure lemme check |
19:08.02 | Axodious | no you cant |
19:08.09 | Camci | meh sucks |
19:08.23 | Camci | i guess its for sc2 and diablo 3 |
19:08.27 | Axodious | i mean, you can put the starcraft cd key in your new battle.net account |
19:08.33 | Axodious | but you cant login in game with that account name |
19:08.36 | Axodious | you need to use your classic |
19:08.44 | Camci | i see |
19:08.53 | Axodious | and yeah it is specificly for wow/sc2/d3 |
19:08.58 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
19:08.58 | Axodious | and future products |
19:09.01 | Camci | doesnt matter my sc key is illegal :P |
19:09.06 | Axodious | https://us.battle.net/faq/index.html |
19:09.08 | Fisker- | Camci |
19:09.10 | Fisker- | http://i42.tinypic.com/5zjao.jpg |
19:09.14 | Axodious | the faq is pretty decent for a change |
19:10.15 | Camci | Fisker- They did announce some while ago that other non blizz related adds showing up and were investigating the "issue" ^^ |
19:10.56 | Fisker- | Yeah the last time it seemed blatantly obvious |
19:10.59 | Fisker- | not so much this time |
19:11.56 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r17 DailyIntake (4 files in 2 directories): Reverted to previous version of localization system. |
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19:22.42 | Primer | oh wtf, WoW seg'd wine |
19:23.42 | Primer | man, I really need 4g of ram on this box, 2g just ain't enough |
19:23.56 | Primer | I'm having to kill firefox to run wow now |
19:24.03 | AckisWork | Primer: I have 512mb on this PC at work :P |
19:24.16 | Axodious | R.A.M: .:[3137/8191 61.7% Free]:. Virtual Memory: .:[103/2048 95% Free]:. |
19:24.20 | Axodious | ;) |
19:24.22 | Camci | ye firefox rapes your ram... |
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19:26.03 | ckknight | raep |
19:26.10 | Lysithea | Primer wtf? |
19:26.17 | Axodious | ckk you know about this WARNING: Can't activate/deactivate a nondropped totem ? |
19:26.21 | Lysithea | I got 1gig and run wow+ff just fine >_> |
19:26.37 | Lysithea | (low settings tho!) |
19:26.38 | ckknight | Axodious: no idea, ask Vangual |
19:26.41 | Axodious | spammed me about 30 times i think when i turned on solo config mode |
19:27.04 | Axodious | pokes Vangual, any idea? ;p |
19:27.16 | ckknight | what class are you? |
19:27.20 | Axodious | shaman |
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19:28.05 | Vangual | hrm, file a ticket how i can reproduce it. that's one of the "shouldn't ever occur" errors |
19:28.19 | Axodious | lemme see if i can |
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19:30.18 | Axodious | ok i got it |
19:32.02 | Axodious | ticket #304 Vangual |
19:32.12 | Vangual | thanks |
19:33.37 | Fisker- | licks Ackis |
19:33.43 | Fisker- | don't you have a beta key for meeeeeeeee? |
19:33.49 | Axodious | does the saved variables from pb4 merge with the saved variables from pb3? or a seperate lua file? |
19:33.59 | Axodious | ie should i remove my pb3 config |
19:35.23 | AckisWork | eh: "I am interested to publish your addon Ackis on CD/DVD and website for a french company. Can you give me your email for further info please ?" |
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19:35.31 | AckisWork | anyone else get that/ |
19:35.45 | Axodious | lol |
19:36.20 | NeoTron | grats? :P |
19:36.40 | AckisWork | just want to know if anyone got that message as well |
19:37.03 | kenlyric | SELL SELL SELL |
19:37.08 | AckisWork | like ckknight, Kaelten, Xinhuan, Arrowmaster, etc :P |
19:37.14 | rsarno | omg lol - Today, my husband dropped me off at work, ten minutes later I got a text saying" I just dropped the b*tch off I'll be there in a few baby, miss you". FML |
19:37.15 | Kaelten | duck |
19:37.17 | ckknight | yea, I got it, AckisWork |
19:37.33 | ckknight | for both FuBar and Cartographer |
19:37.41 | AckisWork | Kaelten: quack quack |
19:37.45 | AckisWork | ckknight: scam/ |
19:38.02 | Xinhuan | where? |
19:38.04 | Xinhuan | email? |
19:38.04 | ckknight | rsarno: that happened to you? |
19:38.05 | Kaelten | rsarno: um..... |
19:38.13 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: wowace PM |
19:38.20 | Xinhuan | don't think i received one |
19:38.31 | Xinhuan | however, i received one asking about a coordinated april fool's attack |
19:38.37 | Xinhuan | using popular mods |
19:38.37 | Kaelten | lol |
19:38.46 | Xinhuan | such as umm, BT4 and omen |
19:38.58 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: eh if people install ARL they're already a fool imo |
19:38.58 | nevcairiel | i declined |
19:39.06 | Xinhuan | i'm considering it, but in view of the latest UI policy |
19:39.11 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure i want to "annoy users" |
19:39.25 | nevcairiel | i don't think his idea is particularly funny |
19:39.34 | Xinhuan | what would have been funny to you? |
19:39.45 | Xinhuan | pink poohbears background on omen on april 1st? |
19:40.54 | Xinhuan | i'm reading carbonite forums |
19:40.55 | Xinhuan | lol |
19:41.01 | Xinhuan | "i dont think blizzard can stop current members that have paid already from usein the addon as that would be tortious interference. we paying customers made a contract with carbonite when we bought the program/addon and THEN blizzard changed its ui policy... trying to force this company to die and lose its market share." |
19:41.03 | ckknight | we need to do an april fool's for wowace.com |
19:41.09 | Megalon | Xinhuan: nope, just http://oculosis.com/maraby/tmp/pedobear.png ! |
19:41.29 | AckisWork | ckknight: I already gave you excellent suggestions :P |
19:41.47 | Xinhuan | whats the chances carbonite can countersue for tortious influence? lol |
19:41.54 | ckknight | we can't post anything that would hurt our image too bad |
19:42.00 | ckknight | e.g. that we're merging with wowmatrix |
19:42.01 | ckknight | that'd be bad. |
19:42.03 | durcyn | Xinhuan: zero. |
19:42.04 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: i hope these pay addons do it |
19:42.09 | AckisWork | ckknight: but it'd be funny :( |
19:42.40 | Megalon | just make a news that kaelten retired |
19:42.43 | Megalon | and Fisker- got his job |
19:42.46 | Megalon | :7 |
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19:43.17 | Fisker- | takes the next place out of this dump |
19:43.29 | ckknight | lol |
19:43.36 | ckknight | yes, abusing Fisker- could be a good idea. |
19:43.40 | Kaelten | lol |
19:43.43 | AckisWork | ckknight: we do that already |
19:43.49 | ckknight | but moreso! |
19:43.52 | AckisWork | he's the one person who gets abused more than me |
19:44.05 | AckisWork | I wished I could throw blizzcon stress balls at him all day |
19:44.08 | EthanCentaurai | Fisker- for President of USA! :D |
19:44.10 | AckisWork | that'd be a good stress reliever |
19:44.27 | EthanCentaurai | runs for his life |
19:44.58 | AckisWork | EthanCentaurai: it might be an improvement |
19:45.51 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15864749872&sid=1 |
19:45.55 | Xinhuan | whoa mikk started a thread |
19:46.12 | Xinhuan | i mean Mikord |
19:46.43 | Daemona | AckisWork talking about LARP Fireballs or whats the stressball reference? ;) |
19:47.03 | Fisker- | place = plane btw |
19:47.07 | Fisker- | btw Ackis |
19:47.13 | Fisker- | you owe me a starcraft 2 beta key |
19:48.13 | AckisWork | Fisker-: why? |
19:48.27 | AckisWork | Daemona: throwing balls at fisker- == stress release |
19:48.43 | Fisker- | <AckisWork> I owe you a Starcraft 2 beta key |
19:48.47 | Fisker- | <Fisker-> Ok nice. |
19:49.11 | Megalon | <AckisWork> troll got trolled |
19:49.35 | Fisker- | <AckisWork> Disregard that i suck cocks |
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19:50.37 | durcyn | quoting bash.org should be a bannable offense |
19:51.19 | AckisWork | I am still confused |
19:52.04 | ckknight | http://www.bash.org/?715285 |
19:52.05 | ckknight | <.< |
19:52.07 | ckknight | >.> |
19:52.34 | AckisWork | heh |
19:55.13 | Daemona | possibly poking into a beehive, but what the heck is up with authors pulling/discontinuing addons and players yelling "stop QQ n00bs", Did someone mass-dispell Arcane Intellect on the public forums? |
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19:55.52 | Thrae | The forums have always been like that. |
19:55.54 | thul | developers are humans |
19:55.58 | thul | interestingly enough |
19:55.59 | thul | so are users. |
19:56.16 | Vangual | mages forgot to rebuff 4 years ago |
19:56.20 | AckisWork | thul: speak for yourself! |
19:56.43 | thul | YOURS ELF?! YOUR MAMA'S ELF!! |
19:57.02 | AckisWork | kik |
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20:02.44 | Repo | 10automaton: 03weab 07master * ac935b3 modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
20:02.47 | Repo | ac935b3: Fix broken logic in Repair from Guild Funds option. |
20:02.50 | Repo | d67db43: Fix a bug that was passing empty slots to ProcessLink |
20:07.29 | Axodious | there a way to set the default font size in pb4 for allframes? |
20:07.42 | Axodious | font seems a lot bigger in 4 than 3 |
20:08.54 | ckknight | yes |
20:09.00 | ckknight | it's handled by layout |
20:09.22 | Axodious | that's where i'm at right now, haven't bumped into it and i just finished aura's |
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20:10.03 | Camci | how long after the patch will season 5 end ? |
20:10.18 | Axodious | like, i can set the individual text percentages for each text, but overall by default the font is a lot larger |
20:10.25 | Skellum | Just in time for the Paladins and DKs to get their mounts |
20:10.46 | Skellum | I'd assume instantly tbh, since they've expressed a dislike for how avaliable PvE gear was and PvP gear wasnt |
20:11.03 | Axodious | they were dumb with s4 |
20:11.11 | Skellum | S3, S4, S5 |
20:11.31 | Axodious | 80% of people were runnign around with pve weapons |
20:11.43 | Axodious | simply because they only made it available at a tsupid price for pvp |
20:12.10 | Axodious | they need to make pvp weapons more wanted |
20:12.19 | Axodious | add unique equips to them |
20:12.27 | Axodious | like 10% less disarm time or something for some of them |
20:12.28 | Axodious | that stacks |
20:12.32 | Axodious | with enchants |
20:14.20 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: http://ptr.wowhead.com/?item=45942#created-by you see that item? |
20:14.32 | Axodious | i can't seem to find this setting ckk, in pb3 it's Global Settings -> Font |
20:14.37 | Xinhuan | what about it |
20:14.40 | ckknight | Layout Editor, Axodious |
20:14.43 | ckknight | Texts |
20:14.53 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: you think they'll move it to live or something? |
20:14.53 | Xinhuan | its a PTR-only item |
20:15.04 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't add it to my database |
20:15.08 | Xinhuan | unless it actually exists on live |
20:15.25 | Xinhuan | that's why i hardcode ALL my item data |
20:15.27 | Axodious | i'm in the texts, it has current text, new text, default font, then goes into edit text section |
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20:15.42 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: I didn't find that via datamining, I found it via browsing :P |
20:15.44 | Axodious | and the only thing there is the multiplier |
20:15.46 | Xinhuan | so that non-existant items don't enter my databases ;p |
20:15.54 | Xinhuan | consider the item Shifting Twilight Opal |
20:16.02 | Xinhuan | it exists on wowhead, and you can even link it on live! |
20:16.15 | Xinhuan | but the gem doesn't exist - its not creatable by anyone |
20:16.19 | Xinhuan | the recipe for it doesn't exist |
20:16.24 | Xinhuan | (until 3.1) |
20:17.14 | AckisWork | aye... i haven't updated ARL for 3.1... should I? :P\ |
20:17.15 | Axodious | note to self, don't go into 40 man config while 40 auras are showing on every frame |
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20:19.35 | Axodious | the global font size setting doesn't seem to be anywhere in pb4 ckk, only the size multiplier for each individual text, i'm using the normal layout in the editor |
20:20.09 | ckknight | Axodious: hmm |
20:20.13 | ckknight | lemme check, hang on |
20:21.12 | Repo | 10automaton: 03gxxam 07master * 27a77f3 modules/Rez.lua: [+1 commit] Only ignore rez from druids if they are in combat |
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20:23.43 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04Beta * r18 : Tagging as Beta |
20:23.59 | AckisWork | @project dailyintake |
20:24.00 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/dailyintake/. DailyIntake. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval after changes. Your project requires a better description. Please elaborate on what your project does, including basic functionality and intended use.. Jaerro (Manager/Author). Updated: 9 seconds ago |
20:25.03 | Gnarfoz | it's IHML in crappy |
20:25.03 | AckisWork | figured |
20:25.03 | Repo | 10gathermate_sharing: 03kagaro * r74 GatherMate_Sharing.toc: GatherMate_Sharing: fix disembed setup in toc |
20:25.04 | ckknight | Axodious: I forgot to implement it. |
20:25.04 | ckknight | Axodious: there's a ticket for it. find the ticket and vote up ;-) |
20:25.04 | Repo | 10gathermate_sharing: 03kagaro 04v1.2 * r75 : Tagging as v1.2 |
20:25.06 | Axodious | ah k lol |
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20:25.20 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r19 DailyIntake/Localization/ruRU.lua: Trying Beta |
20:25.50 | Axodious | voted ;p |
20:26.10 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: I posted a link to ihml on his page... heh |
20:26.24 | Gnarfoz | heh |
20:26.37 | Gnarfoz | also, he totally sucks at using Svn |
20:27.31 | AckisWork | like I think ihml is daily quest complete heh |
20:27.40 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r20 / (2 files in 2 directories): some changes |
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20:28.55 | ckknight_ | nick ckknight |
20:32.27 | NeoTron | ~no ckknight |
20:32.32 | NeoTron | darn |
20:32.33 | ckknight | ? |
20:32.35 | Fisker- | shut the fuck up |
20:32.52 | Fisker- | likes where this is going |
20:33.36 | durcyn | "Some changes" |
20:33.38 | durcyn | Yow. |
20:33.39 | ckknight | pimp-slaps Fisker- |
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20:37.22 | AckisWork | durcyn: ? |
20:37.28 | Axodious | ckk, have you figured out how to reproduce ticket 238 (mana spark overflow)? i'm having a similair issue only it's not overflowing but not animating across the entire bar |
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20:37.32 | durcyn | Ackis: i was mocking Jaerro's commit messages again |
20:37.36 | Castigo | and i am a back!, did u missed me? |
20:37.38 | ckknight | haven't looked into it |
20:37.44 | ckknight | Castigo: ...yes |
20:37.46 | AckisWork | durcyn: ahh... the commit messages are just like mine though |
20:37.49 | Axodious | oh wait, that's Shefki |
20:37.53 | Axodious | pokes Shefki |
20:38.12 | durcyn | don't take this away from me, AckisWork, it's the only real entertainment i've had today |
20:38.18 | Castigo | bless, ty ckknight |
20:38.27 | Castigo | as usual i got a nice boring question |
20:38.44 | Castigo | how does the combat log guid relates to the ingame creature id? |
20:38.48 | AckisWork | durcyn: you could try to find your penis? |
20:39.00 | durcyn | AckisWork: my cow-orkers usually resent me for that |
20:39.10 | AckisWork | durcyn: heh |
20:39.44 | ckknight | Castigo: you mean the mob id? |
20:39.56 | Castigo | talking about cows, when are the intended to add the "milking" racial conjured food for taurens? |
20:40.07 | Castigo | ckknight i'm trying to divide trashmobs from raidbosses |
20:40.14 | sztanpet | yea i managed to get the same mana spark overflow when in raid after combat i think, not sure if that counts or not |
20:40.15 | Castigo | and i belive that doing it by "name" is not a good idea |
20:40.25 | ckknight | Castigo: you can get the mobid from the GUID |
20:40.29 | ckknight | check wowwiki for more details |
20:40.34 | Castigo | brb then :) |
20:40.43 | AckisWork | durcyn: i'm playing with excel spreadsheets |
20:41.25 | durcyn | Castigo: tonumber(string.sub(guid,-12,-7),16) |
20:41.39 | durcyn | AckisWork: why |
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20:42.27 | AckisWork | durcyn: for work stuffz |
20:42.41 | AckisWork | i know i actually do work here sometimes eh? |
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20:42.58 | durcyn | you're full of shit, sir. |
20:43.05 | AckisWork | :( |
20:43.15 | AckisWork | i pooped today, so I'm empty |
20:43.29 | Castigo | durcyn tyvm, ckknight tyvm too |
20:43.34 | Castigo | i'm not sure i came across correctly tho |
20:43.34 | ckknight | k |
20:43.47 | Castigo | i mean i need th "mobid" that doesn't change thru server resets |
20:43.53 | ckknight | right |
20:43.59 | Castigo | the raid bosses ID that stays the same all the time |
20:44.00 | ckknight | I get what you're saying |
20:44.09 | ckknight | the mobid is a substring inside the GUID |
20:44.12 | Castigo | ok |
20:44.20 | Castigo | is mobid=what i am talking about? |
20:44.27 | durcyn | yes, mob id is what you're talking about |
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20:45.02 | Castigo | well then, tyvm both of u |
20:45.07 | Castigo | brb coding :) |
20:45.25 | ckknight | guid:sub(-12, -7) |
20:45.30 | ckknight | I think |
20:45.33 | ckknight | basically |
20:45.37 | ckknight | tonumber(guid:sub(-12, 7), 16) |
20:45.44 | Castigo | yup |
20:45.58 | durcyn | for example, from my last naxxramas combat log, kel'thuzad's GUID was 0xF130003E760005F1, that comes out to 15990, http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=15990 |
20:46.08 | durcyn | that mob is is static. |
20:46.11 | durcyn | id* |
20:46.18 | Castigo | i'm not using lua but nvm i get the point anyway |
20:46.32 | ckknight | lua> tonumber("003E76", 16) |
20:46.33 | lua_bot | ckknight: 15990 |
20:46.42 | Castigo | durcyn yen i was reading from wow wiki right now |
20:46.53 | Castigo | the lower part instead changes each reset and is a server wise mob id |
20:46.56 | Castigo | or kinda |
20:47.02 | Castigo | that's why i asked if we were talking about the same matter |
20:47.31 | durcyn | think of the guid as flags + permanent id + serial number |
20:47.44 | Axodious | are totems showing up as debuffs in auras right now for pb4? |
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20:48.35 | Castigo | durcyn tyvm :) |
20:49.38 | Castigo | another "brainstorm" i am trying to "separate" the events on the combatlog, my idea was to check that id to divide bosses from trashmobs, and if the space between an action and another is bigger than 3 seconds i consider it a wipe/kill and proceed (unless there is a UNIT_DEAD) event it's a wipe |
20:49.50 | Castigo | and so on, am i correct or there are "better" ways to do so? |
20:50.02 | durcyn | no, most existing parsers use timeouts |
20:50.10 | durcyn | though 3 seconds is a bit low for multi-phase fights |
20:50.13 | Chrnotic | does anyone know why human females weapons are like 3x size compared of all other races/genders? |
20:50.22 | durcyn | you can also look for a new GUID for the boss mobID and reset on that |
20:50.51 | Castigo | durcyn bosses guid resets each try? |
20:51.00 | durcyn | for things that despawn, yes. |
20:51.25 | Axodious | so i've got a few problems with totems specificly in different modules, should i make individual tickets per module or just 1 ticket stating all the issues? |
20:51.44 | durcyn | GUIDs are never recycled within a server reset period |
20:52.45 | Castigo | uhm... i did have 2 wipes on sarth and actually was wondering werther my code was bugging out or not |
20:52.47 | Castigo | that might explain |
20:54.28 | ckknight | Axodious: one ticket pet. |
20:54.28 | ckknight | per* |
20:54.28 | Axodious | k |
20:54.28 | ckknight | Axodious: absolutely. I hate tickets that say more than one thing |
20:54.29 | ckknight | This just in: Alabama feels threatened, drafts legislation to declare the square root of two as "the baby jesus." Overwhelming approval from all constituencies. |
20:54.30 | Axodious | ok, now what if it's 2 issues related to the same thing in 1 module, like friendly totems are showing up as debuffs and aren't resizing to the casters icon size |
20:57.46 | Castigo | durcyn do u know if the raid mob id |
20:57.50 | Castigo | stays the same for 10 man and 25 man? |
20:58.14 | durcyn | so far, yes. |
20:59.12 | Castigo | ty |
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21:18.07 | thul | http://bildr.no/view/348425 <- I'd hit it (nsfw) |
21:18.22 | ckknight | flexible |
21:18.54 | thul | indeed, practical. |
21:19.02 | Gnarfoz | child porn |
21:19.08 | Gnarfoz | you're all going down! |
21:19.13 | ckknight | not necessarily, Gnarfoz |
21:19.18 | thul | haha, she is 22 :-P |
21:19.21 | thul | but ok |
21:19.26 | Megalon | in germany it's child porn |
21:19.26 | Gnarfoz | meh. |
21:19.35 | thul | hmm, it is child porn if the girl is 22? :-( |
21:19.37 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: hehe, someone who know's why that's my first response :p |
21:19.44 | Megalon | as someone who has no clue could possible think she is underaged |
21:20.01 | Megalon | that's the current law for the krauts :P |
21:20.04 | thul | 13? |
21:20.04 | Gnarfoz | thul: pretending to look underage is == being underage here, these days |
21:20.12 | Gnarfoz | or somesuch |
21:20.22 | Gnarfoz | thul: that'd be < 18 |
21:21.01 | Gnarfoz | although the age of consent is below that, which is ironic in itself :\ |
21:21.03 | thul | Gnarfoz: hmm, so if I dressed in a schoolgirl outfit and pretended to be a young boy (I'm a bearded 100kg male :-P ) it would be illegal? :-( |
21:21.11 | Megalon | yep |
21:21.20 | thul | haha, interesting fascism. |
21:21.25 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
21:21.31 | Megalon | if you sent a photo to a german friend |
21:21.36 | Gnarfoz | they're going batshit insane these days with actionism |
21:21.42 | Megalon | he could get into trouble :P |
21:21.48 | Gnarfoz | but then again |
21:21.52 | thul | I wonder if quake live will come for mac soon |
21:22.19 | Gnarfoz | tomorrow (wednesday, that is) they're planning on pushing through some half-done proposal on what is basically internet censorship |
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21:22.44 | Gnarfoz | obviously intended to help in the "war against child pornography", yada yada |
21:22.57 | Megalon | yea, they don't call is censorship, but that's what they wanna do |
21:23.01 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Nevcairiel * r5068 Ulduar/Leviathan.lua: |
21:23.04 | Repo | BigWigs: Flame Leviathan: fix Pursuit and System Shutdown triggers |
21:23.06 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: ugh |
21:23.12 | Megalon | haha, after WAR ON TERRORISM |
21:23.15 | Megalon | ended |
21:23.21 | Gnarfoz | ended? |
21:23.24 | Megalon | it is back to war on childporn in germany |
21:23.37 | Megalon | well, terrorism is back in the closet |
21:23.43 | Gnarfoz | well, it ended in that they got their insane gestapo laws |
21:23.54 | Gnarfoz | i.e. saving of all connection data |
21:24.00 | Gnarfoz | and the other way more crazy shit |
21:24.00 | thul | well, I don't mind ISPs stopping known child porn sites, but it is quite the way from that to this. |
21:24.13 | nevcairiel | when childporn is on a low, they'll find some nazis to follow too |
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21:24.17 | Gnarfoz | state-approved trojan horses for the federal police |
21:24.22 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: you wish :( |
21:24.45 | Megalon | nazi zombies ahead! |
21:24.51 | nevcairiel | Isnt that the usual explanation for our state-trojan? |
21:24.53 | Gnarfoz | also, IMSI catchers are fine now (YAY tricking dumb mobile phones into making calls via the police's base station instead of the real one) |
21:24.56 | nevcairiel | Nazis and child porn? :) |
21:25.01 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: no, that was terrorism. |
21:25.13 | Gnarfoz | child porn stuff is from Mrs. von der Leyen |
21:25.19 | Megalon | nazi child porn in terrorist training camps |
21:25.27 | nevcairiel | I bet schäuble will come up with a new excuse these days |
21:25.36 | Megalon | that would cover ursel and rolling thunder :P |
21:25.45 | Gnarfoz | Schäuble is the terrorism-big-brother-glass-citizen shit |
21:26.00 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: well, he doesn't have to, really - he got most of what he wanted |
21:26.21 | nevcairiel | Yeah, but they usually still try to defend their stuff afterwards |
21:26.27 | Gnarfoz | crap, I'll vote pirate party next time. |
21:26.31 | nevcairiel | heh |
21:26.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: or... get MORE. |
21:26.40 | thul | anarchy now :-P |
21:26.42 | nevcairiel | right, elections soon |
21:27.03 | thul | oh, I'd hit http://bildr.no/view/351870 too |
21:27.18 | Gnarfoz | really, voting for any of the big players can only turn out shit |
21:27.29 | Gnarfoz | and I mean all of them :[ |
21:27.31 | thul | hmm, ginger + freckles = hot. |
21:27.39 | Gnarfoz | thul: |
21:27.41 | Gnarfoz | ~freckles++ |
21:27.46 | thul | :-D |
21:27.53 | Gnarfoz | ~karma freckles |
21:27.53 | purl | freckles has karma of 1 |
21:27.54 | thul | Maybe I should move to ireland |
21:27.55 | Megalon | ginger + freckles |
21:27.57 | Megalon | +boobs |
21:28.00 | Megalon | even better! |
21:28.11 | Gnarfoz | meh, purl's karma db is not used much, it seems |
21:28.16 | ckknight | thul: woo, I'm hot according to you |
21:28.18 | ckknight | flexes |
21:28.20 | thul | :-D |
21:28.23 | thul | snuggls ckknight |
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21:28.38 | Megalon | hrhr, thul, friend asks if the picture beforehand is available in poster quality ;O |
21:29.41 | thul | which of them? the freckles? or the nude asian chick? |
21:29.42 | Gnarfoz | anyway, with all the crap politicians and media have spouted out in JUST the last three weeks... they seriously need to look for a reason for teenagers going amok, shooting 15 people? :P |
21:30.01 | Megalon | nude asian ;< |
21:30.06 | thul | haha, fraid not. |
21:30.33 | Megalon | what a pity |
21:30.43 | Gnarfoz | funny also how the Intel Friday Night Game (some sort of pro esport league event?) was suddenly out of a venue to host their event in |
21:30.59 | Gnarfoz | Benztown ftl. |
21:31.01 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic 041.4.4 * r360 : (Message trimmed by 4 lines) |
21:31.04 | Repo | Tagging as 1.4.4. Changes since last release: |
21:31.07 | Repo | - fixed a bug with text alpha being unchangeable with LibDogTag usage disabled |
21:31.08 | ckknight | thul: k, girlfriend is jealous now |
21:31.10 | Repo | - added toggle to enable/disable showing incoming heals on the player's health bar. also cleaned up the implementation a bit to display more consistently and hide when appropriate |
21:31.13 | Repo | - added toggles to show/hide spell cast time and spell rank on player/target cast bars |
21:31.14 | ckknight | thul: you should watch out. |
21:31.14 | ckknight | <.< |
21:31.15 | ckknight | >.> |
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21:31.37 | Axodious | LOOK OUT SHES BEHIND YOU |
21:32.03 | Megalon | jealous? because she can't do a split against the wall? :o |
21:32.18 | Axodious | hey, that would be an interesting position |
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21:48.19 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r638 sRaidFrames.lua: |
21:48.22 | Repo | Check if debuffType is valid before trying to set it as a status. |
21:49.44 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: you should add pre-defined "boss" debuffs to the list, and update the buffs I can cast to be "buffs my class can cast" eh/ |
21:50.12 | nevcairiel | isn't that the same? |
21:50.19 | AckisWork | nah |
21:50.30 | AckisWork | ie: priest w/o divine spirit = DS doesn't show up |
21:50.40 | nevcairiel | Why would you care? |
21:50.53 | nevcairiel | besides, in a few weeks you'll have DS :P |
21:50.57 | AckisWork | been really having issues with the buff part of it lately tbh, not that I raid all that much |
21:50.58 | TheDeamon | ^^ |
21:51.08 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: was just an example, think dalaran intellect vs AI |
21:51.25 | nevcairiel | I can only use the filters blizzard gives me |
21:51.32 | Tristanian | well to be honest, it would be one more option, albeit not that useful |
21:51.37 | nevcairiel | right now thats "RAID" |
21:51.40 | TheDeamon | That one is probably simply adding an additional field to check for AI/AB/DI |
21:51.40 | nevcairiel | i think |
21:51.40 | Tristanian | guess it depends on personal preference |
21:51.55 | nevcairiel | I'm not going to do manual buff matching =P |
21:52.00 | Tristanian | :p |
21:52.11 | nevcairiel | Oh wait, i think the class option was never added to the options |
21:52.16 | nevcairiel | even though the code supports it |
21:52.30 | Tristanian | filter by class you mean ? |
21:52.41 | Tristanian | hmm now that you mention it... |
21:52.53 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: what about debuffs not cureable by anything? |
21:52.55 | nevcairiel | Currently there is an option for "all buffs" and "bfufs i cast" |
21:53.11 | nevcairiel | but not "buffs i can cast, even though that other dude casted it" |
21:53.18 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: aye :P |
21:53.33 | Tristanian | I'd reckon you can manually add those debuffs Ackis |
21:53.38 | Tristanian | if you really care |
21:53.49 | Tristanian | whitelist them etc |
21:53.50 | nevcairiel | You can show all debuffs |
21:54.09 | nevcairiel | i think |
21:54.11 | AckisWork | Tristanian: eh I had a bunch added but when nevcairiel id some profile changing I lost them all... and it cost me an immortal title kinda heh |
21:54.25 | AckisWork | aye you can |
21:54.34 | AckisWork | I should prolly do that opposed to just ones I can cure/whitelist eh? |
21:54.51 | nevcairiel | I show curable with background coloring and whitelist raid debuffs |
21:54.53 | nevcairiel | worked fien for me |
21:55.27 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: yah my problem is I forget to add my raid debuffs... like when the profile got reseted |
21:55.45 | nevcairiel | I told you, you just had to change the profile |
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21:55.50 | AckisWork | (I know you gave me a fix but I had already reset it) |
21:56.01 | AckisWork | that really didn't work either btw :P error popped up |
21:56.16 | AckisWork | but it's in the past and you owe me an immortal ;) |
21:56.35 | nevcairiel | I added a popup now that appears when you change profile that tells you to reload ui |
21:56.40 | nevcairiel | and even has a button to do s |
21:56.42 | nevcairiel | *so |
21:56.46 | AckisWork | ah |
21:56.59 | AckisWork | imo you should write a global profile manager |
21:57.06 | nevcairiel | I tried fixing the profile thing so you don't have to reload ui anymore |
21:57.16 | nevcairiel | but that didnt work properly |
21:57.21 | nevcairiel | @project reflux |
21:57.22 | Gnarfoz | rages |
21:57.22 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/reflux/. Reflux. Game: WoW. kagaro (Manager/Author). Updated: 9 hours ago |
21:57.23 | nevcairiel | ^ackis |
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21:58.03 | AckisWork | wow didn't see that submitted at all |
21:58.21 | Tristanian | I ended up remaking my profile, not that it is a big deal I lost the Illidan or KJ debuffs |
21:58.25 | Tristanian | :p |
21:58.32 | nevcairiel | hehe |
21:58.41 | nevcairiel | i still have kaelthas and other stuff in there |
21:58.43 | nevcairiel | remote toy! |
21:58.49 | Tristanian | remote toy! |
21:59.06 | AckisWork | Tristanian: I lost my KT debuffs along with SSC, etc as well... and on KT someone died to that ice thingy costing us immortal |
21:59.14 | Stanzilla | QQ |
21:59.20 | nevcairiel | oh Wrath of the Astromancer is a good one too |
21:59.33 | nevcairiel | hm |
21:59.37 | nevcairiel | what was Pillar of Woe again? |
21:59.41 | Tristanian | no offense meant but you don't really need a debuff type there :p |
21:59.41 | nevcairiel | wowhead's |
21:59.49 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: some ace profiles let you do by characte/server/etc |
21:59.53 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: 1 shot robots in BT? |
21:59.54 | nevcairiel | Tristanian: pre-nerf! |
22:00.09 | Tristanian | nerf ? They nerfed KT ? :o |
22:00.18 | nevcairiel | obviously =P |
22:00.28 | Tristanian | seems all the same to me, ever since level 60 |
22:00.30 | Tristanian | :P |
22:00.37 | Aeyan| | Pillar of Woe is a nuke/DoT that the Maiden of Grief casts |
22:00.38 | nevcairiel | As a healer KT is nice to have the ice tombs |
22:00.38 | Tristanian | I'm sick of the instance |
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22:00.56 | nevcairiel | the mind control was more aggressive on KT 60 |
22:01.01 | nevcairiel | being able to MC the tank, etc |
22:01.03 | Tristanian | well more people |
22:01.07 | Tristanian | more fuckups |
22:01.09 | Tristanian | and more tanks :p |
22:01.15 | Gnarfoz | it can still MC tanks, nevcairiel |
22:01.25 | Gnarfoz | that's why it currently, in 3.0.9, still clears aggro |
22:01.26 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: try to duo AQ40 ;) if you want to see some fun MCing |
22:01.26 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: only if dps fucks up |
22:01.41 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: how so? it's random, is it not? |
22:01.47 | Tristanian | he can ? can't say I've seen that happen :s |
22:01.53 | nevcairiel | that it resets aggro now is a mistake |
22:01.57 | Gnarfoz | no, it's not |
22:01.59 | nevcairiel | thats why its removed |
22:02.00 | nevcairiel | it is. |
22:02.03 | Gnarfoz | grrr |
22:02.05 | Gnarfoz | meh. |
22:02.13 | Gnarfoz | too lazy to dig up the quote |
22:02.14 | nevcairiel | Its a remnant of the old lvl 60 code |
22:02.22 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: he can't MC the tank, and the threat drop is unintentional |
22:02.25 | nevcairiel | it never could MC the tank on lvl 80 |
22:02.35 | Gnarfoz | ah, "THE tank" |
22:02.39 | Tristanian | thats why cool people Shadowmeld :p |
22:02.42 | Gnarfoz | well, he does MC add tanks. |
22:02.46 | NeoTron | sure |
22:02.51 | Gnarfoz | wasn't thinking of "his tank" |
22:02.56 | Gnarfoz | that shouldn't happen ^^ |
22:03.03 | NeoTron | but it used to |
22:03.13 | Gnarfoz | didn't nev just say the contrary |
22:03.14 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: how does a threat dump help or matter for the add tanks ? :D |
22:03.24 | Gnarfoz | oh, no I'm just failing at reading 80 for 60 |
22:03.28 | nevcairiel | lol |
22:03.35 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: uhm, add tank MC'd -> adds loose |
22:03.40 | Gnarfoz | nothing to do with the threat wipe |
22:03.56 | nevcairiel | you mentioned the threat wipe :) |
22:04.02 | Gnarfoz | I did? didn't I... |
22:04.03 | nevcairiel | now i forgot what i wanted to do |
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22:04.08 | Gnarfoz | SUCCESS |
22:04.13 | Tristanian | lol |
22:04.14 | Gnarfoz | (I need more sleep) |
22:04.28 | nevcairiel | right i wanted to check what pillar of woe was |
22:04.30 | Tristanian | you wanted to do something to the raid frames |
22:04.30 | Gnarfoz | two german channels ablaze with fucking politics (they're both wow channels) |
22:04.35 | Tristanian | meh |
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22:04.53 | nevcairiel | you're in german wow channels? |
22:04.57 | nevcairiel | your own damn fault =P |
22:05.14 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz is on #buffed.de! I know it! |
22:05.36 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: how so? you there too? |
22:05.42 | Stanzilla | I am there |
22:05.45 | Stanzilla | but..since forever |
22:06.03 | Gnarfoz | what? I'm not |
22:06.18 | Gnarfoz | buffed is to WoW as BILD is to real life news |
22:06.27 | nevcairiel | heh yea |
22:06.36 | Stanzilla | :P |
22:06.46 | nevcairiel | I don't think there is any good german wow community |
22:06.51 | nevcairiel | not that i know of, anyway |
22:06.52 | Gnarfoz | (same goes for wowszene, and the big 2) |
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22:07.08 | Gnarfoz | I actually stopped caring about them so I forgot their names xD |
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22:07.14 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/reflux/pages/main/compare-r4-r5/ lol |
22:07.20 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r254 debug/printliteral.lua: color the value passed to print() in the debugging tool |
22:07.37 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: i don't get whats so funny |
22:07.47 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: look at all the typos I fixed :P |
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22:08.25 | nevcairiel | it doesnt say who edited |
22:08.32 | AckisWork | ah |
22:08.37 | Pneumatus | sylvanaar: are you aware that Prat is putting |H before whispers in r253? |
22:08.40 | Stanzilla | that green is so not readable on my screen |
22:08.54 | sylvanaar | ugh yes |
22:09.38 | AckisWork | durcyn: http://www.wowace.com/comments/25426-jaerro-thanks-for-the-link-ill-think-about-it-but-honestly/ |
22:09.47 | nevcairiel | I even posted into flame leviathans feedback thread today, man that encounter still has bugs =P |
22:10.13 | AckisWork | hmm I have 1245 activity log entries out of ~20k |
22:11.04 | Tristanian | its the most HORRIBLE encounter |
22:11.08 | Tristanian | in the history of this game |
22:11.11 | EthanCentaurai | Pneumatus: disable the ChannelLink module and your problem is solved |
22:11.15 | nevcairiel | I like the encounter |
22:11.18 | nevcairiel | the hardmode is kinda fun |
22:11.19 | Tristanian | more horrible than early BWL drakes |
22:11.28 | nevcairiel | but its so broken |
22:11.29 | Tristanian | not when your people cant ride bikes |
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22:11.32 | Tristanian | when they come down |
22:11.43 | Tristanian | I mean seriously that bug has existed |
22:11.44 | nevcairiel | yeah the brokenness was a bit annoying |
22:11.49 | Tristanian | since the initial incarnation |
22:12.21 | Tristanian | and I still don't get why he chases demolishers |
22:12.26 | Tristanian | considering how squishy they are |
22:12.44 | Tristanian | as for the vehicles themselves, nah forget it, I won't spit more poison :P |
22:12.45 | nevcairiel | Yeah .. i'm not sure if that is a bug or intended |
22:12.56 | Tristanian | at least give them a strafe function ffs |
22:13.01 | durcyn | AckisWork: pffffth |
22:13.09 | Tristanian | you can't even clearly see what is happening behind you |
22:13.09 | nevcairiel | But it would be better if the sprint in demolishers wouldnt be broken right now =P |
22:13.14 | Tristanian | especially if you are chased |
22:13.28 | nevcairiel | vehicles that strafe? where are we now ? :) |
22:13.45 | Tristanian | well I could argue, vehicles in WoW ? :p |
22:13.54 | nevcairiel | gnomes build them |
22:14.00 | Tristanian | even launching people seemed somewhat bugged |
22:14.01 | nevcairiel | they have been in warcraft lore for ever |
22:14.09 | Tristanian | on a couple of instances it misses :P |
22:14.16 | Tristanian | and the person falls to his death |
22:14.19 | nevcairiel | maybe your guys cant aim? :D |
22:14.31 | Tristanian | this was done point blank |
22:14.32 | Tristanian | almost |
22:14.36 | Tristanian | and he died :P |
22:14.42 | nevcairiel | i can explain that |
22:14.55 | nevcairiel | on point blank he squishes against the boss, instead of landing on top |
22:14.58 | nevcairiel | :P |
22:15.05 | Tristanian | ah come on nev, don't tell me we need to arc him |
22:15.07 | Tristanian | or something |
22:15.16 | nevcairiel | nah |
22:15.39 | nevcairiel | We had the healer on the boss draw aggro from some adds |
22:15.40 | nevcairiel | that was fun |
22:15.45 | Tristanian | well anyway, hard mode could be better I guess when the bugs are ironed out |
22:15.56 | Tristanian | but normal mode is such a faceroll :p |
22:16.01 | Tristanian | you can easily afk through it :p |
22:16.01 | nevcairiel | ya |
22:16.16 | nevcairiel | even with that one tower buff up, which was apparently bugged |
22:16.21 | Tristanian | yep |
22:16.41 | Tristanian | well the adds are interesting, though I would prefer if they didn't stick to the guy getting aggro like glue :P |
22:16.49 | Tristanian | I blame our bikes ! |
22:16.53 | sylvanaar | Pneumatus if you can pastey a /print Prat.SplitMessage, it'd help still though |
22:17.47 | nevcairiel | we didn't realy care about the small ones that much |
22:18.00 | Tristanian | well the big ones need to be tarred |
22:18.00 | nevcairiel | and did some heavy focus on the big ones, because they push out alot of dmg |
22:18.04 | Tristanian | and kitted a bit |
22:18.14 | Tristanian | and have like the HP of Superman |
22:18.24 | nevcairiel | get 2 siege engineson them and you can keep them in the air :D |
22:18.30 | nevcairiel | 1.9 million |
22:18.32 | nevcairiel | iirc |
22:18.41 | Tristanian | well true but you get them from all corners |
22:18.47 | Pneumatus | sylvanaar: {} |
22:18.57 | Pneumatus | empty table :o |
22:19.19 | EthanCentaurai | did you get or send a whisper beforehand? ;) |
22:19.27 | Pneumatus | yup |
22:19.55 | sylvanaar | ~ /script print(Prat.SplitMessage) or /script print(Prat.SplitMessage) |
22:20.09 | sylvanaar | ~ /script print(Prat.SplitMessage) or /script fprint(Prat.SplitMessage) |
22:20.40 | nevcairiel | Tristanian: we decided to only have one siege engine on the mob for interrupting, because the melee action of the siege engines is so low, and the risk of getting ramed on target change too high, so they just "tank" the big flowers while the range cannon on them still dmgs flame leviathan (or switches to the flower if you catch one) |
22:21.33 | Tristanian | its a valid strategy, still im unsure if one siege on the boss can pull it off |
22:21.35 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: heya |
22:21.48 | Pneumatus | sylvanaar: /script print(Prat.SplitMessage) gives a tablename as expected, /print Prat.SplitMessage gives an empty table, as does /spew and /dump :) |
22:21.50 | nevcairiel | well for itnerrupting its enough |
22:21.50 | Tristanian | and those #*$(#&@^&@% vehicles are slower than a TV replay |
22:21.53 | Tristanian | :p |
22:22.11 | sylvanaar | um |
22:22.15 | nevcairiel | obviously he needs to run really fast if he gets focused |
22:22.23 | Tristanian | yup |
22:22.33 | Tristanian | I hope you used the shirt |
22:22.35 | Tristanian | ! |
22:22.37 | sylvanaar | you can do /dump Prat.SplitMessage.ORG |
22:22.42 | nevcairiel | like it mattered today =) |
22:22.51 | Tristanian | well, true but still |
22:22.59 | nevcairiel | tomorrow hardmode vezax |
22:23.08 | Tristanian | I'd like very much to have an ilvl 43 shirt with +130 to all ratings |
22:23.10 | Tristanian | :P |
22:23.31 | nevcairiel | They should give us a shirt on live |
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22:23.39 | nevcairiel | without stats, just the shirt |
22:23.42 | nevcairiel | and the subtext |
22:23.43 | nevcairiel | :) |
22:23.46 | Tristanian | meh I hate vezax |
22:23.52 | Tristanian | too gimmicky* |
22:23.55 | nevcairiel | I hate the trash |
22:24.22 | Tristanian | well the trash is fairly fast if you know what they are doing |
22:24.52 | nevcairiel | Yeah well we wiped alot on the first two groups last time, but you know, we didn't know what we were doing then |
22:24.55 | nevcairiel | now we do :) |
22:25.07 | Tristanian | the thing with vezax is, the camera is horrible as you need to watch for the shadow strike thingie AND everything else |
22:25.25 | Tristanian | plus we managed to soft enrage him last time |
22:25.30 | Tristanian | we ran out of green stuff |
22:25.31 | Tristanian | no mana |
22:25.32 | Tristanian | gg |
22:25.34 | nevcairiel | I hope my bigwigs mod that trys to raid-mark the shadow strike target player works |
22:25.43 | Tristanian | WTB |
22:25.46 | Tristanian | :p |
22:25.56 | nevcairiel | You know hardmode is "don't use mana regen shit" |
22:26.13 | Tristanian | well yeah |
22:26.25 | Tristanian | this means you need to make the most of the oily ground |
22:26.53 | nevcairiel | For DPS at least |
22:27.05 | nevcairiel | but 30% mana reduce at 50% heal reduce, not worth it for healers, really |
22:27.07 | Tristanian | but the shadow strike isnt targeted afaik |
22:27.17 | Tristanian | nope healers need to conserve mana |
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22:27.38 | Pneumatus | sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/110862 should be it then |
22:27.52 | nevcairiel | I'm not sure, i thought i saw him switch target for half a second on casting shadow strike |
22:27.57 | nevcairiel | on that assumption the mod works |
22:28.20 | Tristanian | I was watching his target frame constantly, I think he just picks a random target |
22:28.24 | Tristanian | I hope im wrong |
22:28.36 | Tristanian | random ranged that is |
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22:33.50 | nevcairiel | anyway, i'm off, night |
22:35.24 | Groktar | hrm, what's a tight bound as opposed to an asymptotic upper/lower bound? the latter is pretty obvious, but the former is ??? |
22:36.12 | Tristanian | gn nev |
22:36.12 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
22:43.22 | sylvanaar | Pneumatus i still really dont know whats wrong |
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22:46.24 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r53 Abilities/Abilities.lua: Bug fixes |
22:46.41 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r54 PersonalNotes (2 files in 1 directory): Bug fixes |
22:47.36 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r55 / (3 files in 1 directory): Bug fixes |
22:47.39 | Repo | Added trash to encounter DB |
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22:59.47 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Nevcairiel * r5069 Ulduar/Leviathan.lua: |
22:59.50 | Repo | BigWigs: Flame Leviathan: Escape the % in the search string. |
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23:01.07 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r69 whispercommands.lua: bidding bug fix |
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23:12.27 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r70 whispercommands.lua: more bid fixes |
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23:14.34 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r56 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated release notes for release 0.9.4 Beta |
23:15.37 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 040.9.4 Beta * r57 : Tagging as 0.9.4 Beta |
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23:19.47 | thul | http://fc27.deviantart.com/fs42/f/2009/083/2/6/Mirror_by_JoGraetz.jpg <- that amount (and placement) of piercings are... imperssive (nsfw) |
23:20.15 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r88 / (5 files in 1 directory): fix a few bugs for party quests zone |
23:23.44 | ckknight | thul: dang |
23:23.58 | thul | indeed |
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23:30.29 | sylvanaar | Pneumatus do you have channel links enabled? |
23:30.36 | Pneumatus | erm |
23:30.45 | Pneumatus | dunno, will log in and look |
23:31.09 | Pneumatus | probably though |
23:31.38 | thul | http://fc15.deviantart.com/fs43/i/2009/083/9/2/Interested_by_LalaM.jpg <- i would so hit this |
23:33.08 | Pneumatus | sylvanaar: yes i do |
23:33.20 | sylvanaar | try turning it off |
23:33.44 | Pneumatus | should it need a reload to apply? |
23:34.26 | Pneumatus | infact, even after a reloadui the |H persists |
23:34.31 | Pneumatus | with chatlinks disabled |
23:35.46 | Pneumatus | with ChannelNames disabled it dissapears though |
23:35.48 | WobWork | thul: I assume that's nsfw too? =P |
23:36.41 | Megalon | http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1384170793 |
23:36.43 | Megalon | lol :C |
23:37.11 | Pneumatus | sylvanaar: specifcally with ChannelNames loaded and ChannelNames -> Other Options -> Create Channel Link ticked, the |H is present |
23:37.21 | Pneumatus | untick the "Create Channel Link" and it dissapears |
23:37.56 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats kind of an old bug |
23:38.08 | sylvanaar | ill just disable it for now |
23:38.29 | Pneumatus | it's only just started showing up in the last couple of alpha revisions tho :o |
23:38.56 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r71 whispercommands.lua: fixed full bidding. |
23:38.58 | sylvanaar | yeah, i know |
23:40.40 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r255 modules/ChannelNames.lua: |
23:40.43 | Repo | disable the channel link creation feature in the channelnames module due to a regression resulting from a change from __index="" as the base metatable. |
23:41.54 | sylvanaar | i swear __index="" meant, every field would have a default value of "" |
23:43.31 | Arrowmaster | __index=function(self, k) self[k] = "" return "" end |
23:43.33 | Arrowmaster | ? |
23:44.15 | Pneumatus | Funkeh``/vharr, Sapphiron no longer gives warning bars for the air phase in r5064, which could possibly be related to the change in r4934 |
23:45.31 | Primer | Anyone aware of an addon that can store what was written in guild chat, then put the last few lines of that into another toon's chat if it's in the same guild when you switch toons? |
23:45.57 | WobWork | Primer: no, but it's a good idea |
23:45.57 | Primer | or whisper, trade, etc? |
23:46.13 | Primer | I'm guessing that should be allowed |
23:46.23 | WobWork | allowed? |
23:46.32 | Primer | meaning, it wouldn't be something that Blizz wouldn't want addon writers to do |
23:46.55 | WobWork | don't see why that would even be an issue |
23:47.05 | WobWork | You're saving information that's available to the account |
23:48.55 | Primer | ok, there's a vendor that sells a blue cape that can be DE'd for 17g just outside of Dal |
23:49.11 | Primer | Is there any reason why I should pay 23g for the cheapest dream shard in the AH? |
23:49.22 | Primer | or is buying that cloak and DEing it considered "cheating"? |
23:49.50 | Primer | An addon I have reports it can be DE'd. I've never bought it and DE'd it |
23:49.57 | WobWork | Primer: at the darkmoon faire? |
23:50.10 | Primer | Since when is the Darkmoon fair ever outside of Dal? |
23:50.15 | WobWork | oh Dal |
23:50.17 | Primer | Dalaran |
23:50.19 | WobWork | I read that as shatt for some reason |
23:50.27 | WobWork | I need tea |
23:50.35 | Primer | the Argent dude QM has it |
23:50.41 | NeoTron | Kaelten: a user just reported that while trying to upgrade MagicDKP he gets version r105 from 3/15 when using release and version r111 when using beta, despite a version r115 Release from yesterday |
23:50.44 | WobWork | I say go for it |
23:50.55 | WobWork | Prices for dream shards are player determined |
23:50.58 | WobWork | not server determined |
23:51.18 | WobWork | it's like people putting items on the AH for less than vendor price |
23:51.32 | WobWork | Or cloth for less than the bandgages sell for |
23:52.21 | Primer | yup |
23:52.55 | Starinnia | can anyone explain the point of auctioning things on the PTR for 5k gold or more? |
23:53.13 | NeoTron | Starinnia: people feel leet when they have virtual fortunes |
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23:53.44 | NeoTron | mainly I'd say they do it because they need gold to buy an item for 4000g someone put up to afford the item that's up there for 3500g... etc |
23:54.13 | Starinnia | yeah, that makes some sense |
23:54.33 | Starinnia | guess I'd understand it a bit more if you got the gold on live realms after the PTR closed |
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23:57.19 | Elsia | I think it |
23:57.45 | Elsia | it's just supply and demand. Loads of demand and short supply, so charges go high really quickly. |
23:58.12 | NeoTron | people also don't caer if they spend gold, have transferred their foture many times over, etc |
23:58.12 | Elsia | So you want to buy 5 enchants and have to sell a glyph. How do you have to value your glyph to have a prayer to buy the enchants on the PTR. |
23:58.26 | Elsia | So it's kind of a really broken economy. |
23:58.49 | Starinnia | yeah, that makes sense too |
23:59.04 | Primer | ok, the addon was wrong |
23:59.07 | Primer | it can't be DE'd |
23:59.18 | Starinnia | 17g down the drain! |
23:59.32 | WobWork | Primer: =( |
23:59.38 | WobWork | rep items yeh? |
23:59.44 | WobWork | that was probably deliberate =) |