| 00:01.49 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r101 modules/StatusAuras.lua: --Implement missing property for buff statuses |
| 00:02.58 | Repo | 10status-aura-group: 03Azethoth * r5 Options/Grid2StatusAuraGroupOptions.lua: --provide config for missing property |
| 00:06.27 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r102 Options (10 files in 2 directories): --provide config for missing property |
| 00:06.31 | Repo | --copy its localization over from Grid |
| 00:06.33 | Repo | --create the missing locale files for that |
| 00:08.44 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 34cbcbe Modules/ (5 files in 5 directories): [+1 commit] remove some magic numbers |
| 00:09.52 | TradeMark | ckknight: got PB4 up and running last night, works pretty well :) |
| 00:09.56 | ckknight | good stuff |
| 00:10.14 | TradeMark | although I tried to make some vertical blank space in a frame between a Portrait and the health/power bars |
| 00:10.35 | TradeMark | I couldn't get fine enough adjustment over its width, the smallest width was still pretty large |
| 00:10.49 | ckknight | the widths are relative to one another |
| 00:11.02 | TradeMark | might have been doing something wrong but yeah I couldn't find a way to set a width for the other parts of the frame |
| 00:11.10 | ckknight | there is a way |
| 00:11.18 | TradeMark | ok |
| 00:11.28 | TradeMark | shall have to have another hunt tonight |
| 00:12.17 | MoonWolf | "When all you have is Dijkstra's algorythm, all problems start looking like graphs." <- I just thought of solving Solitare with A*. Shoot me. |
| 00:12.44 | ckknight | lol. |
| 00:17.35 | NeoTron | hrm how the heck did I get an infinite loop |
| 00:19.51 | aestil | is there a dr. damage like mod that's working atm? |
| 00:19.57 | aestil | i think i asked this a few days ago. |
| 00:23.15 | SqueeG | what's it do |
| 00:25.11 | Kilroo | It's not working? |
| 00:25.12 | Repo | 10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03ckknight * r179 Categories/Auras.lua: some minor tweaking to Auras. |
| 00:26.08 | [draco] | it works, but it's no longer being updated |
| 00:26.14 | [draco] | so a lot of values are wrong |
| 00:30.37 | Kilroo | Ah. |
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| 00:37.52 | sylvanaar | anyone know what !ClassColors is? |
| 00:38.41 | Stanzilla | custom class colors without tainting the blizz UI |
| 00:40.27 | sylvanaar | that was the older version |
| 00:40.41 | sylvanaar | wowi has !ClassColors as outdated |
| 00:42.12 | Stanzilla | sylvanaar: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12513-ClassColors.html is the correct one |
| 00:52.27 | Mikk | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=45448.0 <- whoa? |
| 00:53.24 | Mikk | That's ... uh .... |
| 00:53.44 | Mikk | How the hell are violations even actionable? oO |
| 00:53.47 | sylvanaar | um |
| 00:53.52 | sylvanaar | just heard about it? |
| 00:54.08 | Mikk | yes |
| 00:54.10 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 00:54.19 | sylvanaar | dont worry about it |
| 00:54.22 | Mikk | "or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on." <- grats wowmatrix? |
| 00:54.28 | sylvanaar | dont worry about it |
| 00:54.36 | sylvanaar | its unimportant |
| 00:54.47 | VonhintenHOME` | eh? |
| 00:55.04 | VonhintenHOME` | What makes you say that? |
| 00:55.11 | VonhintenHOME` | blizzard responded? |
| 00:55.16 | Repo | 10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r48 / (2 files in 1 directory): MorgBid2 |
| 00:55.19 | Repo | -added localized loot message |
| 00:55.22 | Repo | -added locales for LEFT/RIGHT/UP/DOWN |
| 00:55.23 | sylvanaar | its so they have the ability to take legal action against people like Carbonite that do something obnoxious |
| 00:55.25 | Repo | -updated deDE thanks Demonhorns |
| 00:55.41 | sylvanaar | they didnt have the ability before, because these rules werent posted |
| 00:56.01 | VonhintenHOME` | Is that your personal interpretation? |
| 00:56.08 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 00:56.36 | sylvanaar | did you know congress passed a law saying cancer must be cured within 10 years |
| 00:56.49 | WobWork | how many years ago? |
| 00:56.58 | sylvanaar | its a joke |
| 00:57.01 | SqueeG | :p |
| 00:57.03 | WobWork | I know =P |
| 00:57.22 | SqueeG | Glasgow medical scientists claim they'll have all cancers in the body eitehr treatable or curable by 2015...? |
| 00:57.24 | SqueeG | 2012? |
| 00:57.27 | SqueeG | something like that |
| 00:57.30 | SqueeG | "soon" |
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| 00:57.36 | sylvanaar | stem cells? |
| 00:57.37 | WobWork | (tm) |
| 00:57.44 | Mikk | "There's nothing wrong with wowmatrix. Blizzard's rules say that addons must be 100% free, so you requiring ad impressions for addon hosting is wrong, and wowmatrix is right." <- That's _not_ far fetched. And I'm usually _not_ the alarmist on licensing/legal mumbojumbo. |
| 00:58.00 | sylvanaar | dont do it mikk |
| 00:58.06 | WobWork | it's not worth the pain |
| 00:58.23 | sylvanaar | just take our word for it |
| 00:58.31 | Zhinjio | sighs. |
| 00:59.15 | WobWork | although I wonder how it'll affect CC |
| 00:59.33 | Mikk | premium accounts are teh devil and not allowed |
| 00:59.35 | Mikk | all must be free |
| 00:59.37 | sylvanaar | as much as bliz wants it to |
| 00:59.40 | sylvanaar | no |
| 00:59.53 | Tuller | its so fun to go to nova for the weekend and come back to the addon explosion of justice :P |
| 00:59.57 | Repo | 10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r73 / (12 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 6 lines) |
| 00:59.58 | sylvanaar | only if bliz asks them to |
| 00:59.59 | Repo | MorgDKP2 |
| 01:00.02 | Repo | -fixed libwho embed |
| 01:00.05 | Repo | -added localized loot message |
| 01:00.08 | Repo | -updated deDE locale thanks demonhorns |
| 01:00.31 | WobWork | Basically the rules are set down so Blizzard can pick and choose who to pin the tail upon |
| 01:00.31 | Mikk | "or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on." |
| 01:00.37 | Mikk | " charge for services related to the add-on" |
| 01:00.40 | sylvanaar | right WobWork |
| 01:00.51 | Mikk | yes, everyone is a criminal, and the judge can pick & choose who to hit |
| 01:00.52 | Mikk | yay |
| 01:00.57 | WobWork | They can ignore Curse if they want, and target Carbonite |
| 01:01.10 | sylvanaar | look, carbonite was putting ads in the game |
| 01:01.16 | sylvanaar | they couldnt stop them |
| 01:01.19 | WobWork | and that I find objectionable |
| 01:01.32 | WobWork | even though I don't use Carbonite |
| 01:02.14 | sylvanaar | it also means no asking for donations IN-GAME |
| 01:02.21 | Tuller | mwahahaha |
| 01:02.24 | WobWork | You can do so out of game |
| 01:02.27 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 01:02.48 | SqueeG | They want to keep the game a game... oh noes |
| 01:02.56 | SqueeG | As opposed to.. what.. second life? |
| 01:03.02 | Tuller | I honestly expect that its a, "hey, this guy did something we didn't like, so lets make a policy!" |
| 01:03.05 | WobWork | or that new finnish one? |
| 01:03.09 | WobWork | with the bank? |
| 01:03.10 | Tuller | "okay, we'll have legal review it on monday, maybe" |
| 01:03.31 | WobWork | Tuller: I hope there are some adjustments to that policy |
| 01:03.58 | sylvanaar | "we want to have editorial rights over the addons used with our game" |
| 01:04.00 | Tuller | I assume there will be clarifications |
| 01:04.04 | SqueeG | I, for one, assume their will be :p |
| 01:04.16 | SqueeG | But... I've learned not to assume much xD |
| 01:04.16 | sylvanaar | not really a quote |
| 01:04.41 | VonhintenHOME` | Blizzard can blow me |
| 01:04.41 | Tuller | I think the best blizzard can shoot for is takedown notices |
| 01:05.00 | WobWork | Tuller: They could probably put ingame code to shut off certain addons |
| 01:05.06 | Tuller | yes, they could |
| 01:05.17 | sylvanaar | they can, but not if they are obfuscated |
| 01:05.20 | Tuller | but that seems the stupid idea |
| 01:05.44 | WobWork | sylvanaar: In Game Warden =) |
| 01:05.44 | SqueeG | it'd be a constant cat and mouse :p |
| 01:05.50 | Tuller | i would honestly hit up websites and say, "you sir, are linkingsupporting an addon that violates our policy, take it down or we'll revoke fansite status" |
| 01:05.51 | SqueeG | that'd be entirely too much to keep up with |
| 01:06.10 | WobWork | Tuller: And WoWMatrix would say: Eh? |
| 01:06.13 | sylvanaar | right - they cant enforce all these rules |
| 01:06.26 | sylvanaar | they are there in case they *want to* |
| 01:06.45 | Stanzilla | there is baddons.wcf in the ptr client :P |
| 01:06.49 | sylvanaar | they are a game company, and on the whole, they are about having fun |
| 01:06.55 | Stanzilla | b(ad)addons |
| 01:07.11 | SqueeG | i saw that too |
| 01:07.16 | sylvanaar | cant people just rename thier addon |
| 01:07.22 | SqueeG | exactly :p |
| 01:07.35 | SqueeG | cat and mouse ^_^ |
| 01:07.55 | sylvanaar | right |
| 01:08.01 | WobWork | pft |
| 01:08.04 | SqueeG | if they try sticking to that atm, they'll probably remove it later |
| 01:08.07 | WobWork | all they need to do is catch it a few times |
| 01:08.14 | WobWork | and then give the player a warning =P |
| 01:08.23 | WobWork | and then start docking gold or something =) |
| 01:08.32 | sylvanaar | so, now that we agree that the rules are pointless and uninforcable, we can agree that they are really about stopping things like in-game ads |
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| 01:08.52 | Tuller | probably |
| 01:08.53 | SqueeG | yes? :p |
| 01:09.24 | Tuller | I think its just relatively enforcable :P |
| 01:09.41 | sylvanaar | can you imagine the nerd-rage? So&So's addon uses 10x the CPU that is should, I'm reporting him |
| 01:09.47 | SqueeG | But it gives them grounds to bulldog something if they want to, now ;p |
| 01:09.59 | WobWork | hehe |
| 01:10.05 | WobWork | KTM =) |
| 01:10.09 | sylvanaar | right |
| 01:10.16 | Anaral_Eliza | I'm glad one channel has a bit of common sense. |
| 01:10.29 | WobWork | Does your channel concern you anaral? |
| 01:10.29 | Tuller | no, you're wrong! |
| 01:10.31 | aestil | lawl, KTM was the first thing i though of when i read that. |
| 01:10.40 | WobWork | Tell me about your common sense. |
| 01:11.01 | SqueeG | woo hoo 134 errors! |
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| 01:11.27 | sylvanaar | why are you talking like a chatbot |
| 01:11.42 | WobWork | points to Anaral_Eliza |
| 01:11.45 | Anaral_Eliza | Well I meant more as a large general channel |
| 01:11.56 | Tuller | eh, this is a large general channel |
| 01:12.05 | sylvanaar | ah, i see |
| 01:13.04 | SqueeG | oooooooooh this is a new one |
| 01:13.05 | WobWork | Tuller: You know you've been on the internet too long when the correct usage of "you're" makes you think that something looks wrong... |
| 01:13.35 | Tuller | well I'd rather not loose change |
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| 01:13.52 | SqueeG | "failed to read file world/wmo/northrend/icecrown/scourgewalls/icecrown_citygate_02_006.wmo |
| 01:14.03 | SqueeG | even though i've been flying around here for the past.... hour? :p |
| 01:14.31 | WobWork | Tuller: or waist time? |
| 01:14.44 | Tuller | indeed |
| 01:15.35 | Tuller | perhaps blizzard could introduce higs that say, "no popup ads" in it |
| 01:16.04 | WobWork | higs? |
| 01:16.11 | Tuller | interface guidelines |
| 01:16.40 | sylvanaar | at least it wasnt particle physics |
| 01:16.46 | sylvanaar | http://lua.pastey.net/110758 |
| 01:17.05 | Tuller | no god particles here... |
| 01:17.06 | sylvanaar | can a field in T2 ever be nil |
| 01:17.40 | Tuller | could nil be nil? :P |
| 01:17.52 | Tuller | or a field you've set in t2? |
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| 01:18.15 | sylvanaar | good point |
| 01:18.22 | SqueeG | awww |
| 01:18.22 | SqueeG | wjat |
| 01:18.25 | sylvanaar | thanks |
| 01:18.29 | SqueeG | what'd I miss?* |
| 01:18.33 | Kilroo | ...Null is null or not an object. |
| 01:19.05 | SqueeG | how dare you |
| 01:19.11 | SqueeG | gah |
| 01:19.17 | SqueeG | .... bbs |
| 01:19.46 | Mikk | heh, here we go already |
| 01:19.56 | Tuller | well, I could be wrong |
| 01:20.06 | Mikk | reply from mmo-champ user: "It's just a shame that this doesn't effect addon downloaders like Curse-Updater." |
| 01:20.16 | Mikk | AMAGAD THEY ARE STEALING MY MONIEZ IT MUST BE FREE!!!11 |
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| 01:21.11 | sylvanaar | well, gah, if I set T2.A=1, then T2.A=nil, T2.A should be "" |
| 01:21.30 | sylvanaar | since it no longer exists |
| 01:21.53 | Tuller | right |
| 01:22.11 | sylvanaar | T2.A will be "" also |
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| 01:22.39 | sylvanaar | T1.A=nil, that should also give "" |
| 01:22.47 | sylvanaar | for T2.A |
| 01:23.22 | sylvanaar | oh, i get it |
| 01:23.31 | sylvanaar | no, false alaem |
| 01:23.34 | sylvanaar | alarm |
| 01:24.39 | Mikk | then again the same bunch of idiots are also claiming that all addons are the property of blizzard |
| 01:24.51 | WobWork | hahah |
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| 01:26.22 | theoddone33 | I just read some thread about that |
| 01:26.39 | SqueeG | ? |
| 01:26.49 | theoddone33 | the amended blizzard addon terms or whatever |
| 01:27.02 | SqueeG | they've revised them already? |
| 01:27.15 | theoddone33 | probably not, I live in the past |
| 01:27.25 | theoddone33 | I'm at least 2 weeks behind on almost everything |
| 01:27.40 | SqueeG | xD |
| 01:28.01 | SqueeG | now that work's starting back up, i'll be in the same boat :p |
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| 01:29.36 | Mikk | ahh yeah here we go, more "thanks blizzard for slapping those greedy curse mofos" http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=45448.75 |
| 01:30.21 | sylvanaar | i wonder if the metatable backing prevents the outer key from being removed |
| 01:31.08 | Mikk | "I'm not sure if they can prohibit stuff like the Curse Downloader. At least for me it is obvious that they intend to do so, but such products do not use Blizzard's platform or API in any way." |
| 01:31.22 | Mikk | Yes, joe user does think it's obvious that they're going after CC |
| 01:32.32 | sylvanaar | i was surprised to learn that people were actually making a living off addon donations |
| 01:32.51 | Zhinjio | I know I do. |
| 01:32.51 | Tuller | yeah |
| 01:32.54 | SqueeG | greedy curse mofos? |
| 01:33.02 | Zhinjio | of course, my wife supports me, so I can live off non-existent donations easily |
| 01:33.36 | sylvanaar | at least a few addon authors were |
| 01:33.46 | SqueeG | If uyour sole income is from wow addons.... you need a better plan |
| 01:34.05 | SqueeG | your* |
| 01:34.30 | SqueeG | no offense.... but these things don't stick around forever :p\ |
| 01:34.57 | Tuller | eh, you could probably get a couple years out of it |
| 01:35.02 | sylvanaar | "We don't need any of the add-on authors who find it necessary to get compensated for their work. I'm not saying their work isn't great, but I am saying they're expendable; there are always others who will come along and take their place, and do it for free. |
| 01:35.43 | WobWork | SqueeG: That's my opinion also |
| 01:35.47 | sylvanaar | why are we doing this again? |
| 01:35.51 | Tuller | that's effectively why I feel its never feasible to sell addons :P |
| 01:35.53 | WobWork | sylvanaar: god knows |
| 01:35.54 | sylvanaar | for peopl like that? |
| 01:35.59 | WobWork | It's certainly not for the noteriety |
| 01:36.00 | theoddone33 | oh man |
| 01:36.13 | theoddone33 | you can't do it or anyone but yourself |
| 01:36.35 | theoddone33 | I spent most of 2008 on a game that wasn't bad, when it was released all the forums were just fanboys talking about how terrible it was |
| 01:36.58 | sylvanaar | did you get paid? |
| 01:37.03 | theoddone33 | absolutely |
| 01:37.19 | theoddone33 | but I'd get paid more doing something different |
| 01:37.26 | theoddone33 | I do what I do because I enjoy it |
| 01:37.42 | theoddone33 | I mean |
| 01:37.48 | Tuller | donations paid for my wow subscription and the expansion last yearish |
| 01:37.50 | theoddone33 | I'm just trying to say that in a field like this |
| 01:37.58 | theoddone33 | the end users will always be unappreciative and never be satisfied |
| 01:38.08 | sylvanaar | see, coding for free AND supporting your mod, you operate under the impression that the users appreciate what you do |
| 01:38.09 | theoddone33 | so if you're doing it for their benefit you're just gonna be let down |
| 01:38.29 | sylvanaar | at some level |
| 01:38.36 | Tuller | well, i think users appreciate what I do, so bah :P |
| 01:38.50 | theoddone33 | the people that appreciate it aren't the vocal ones |
| 01:38.52 | WobWork | appreciates Tuller |
| 01:39.22 | Kilroo | I appreciate Tuller. |
| 01:39.26 | theoddone33 | don't go to forums for appreciation, I guess that's the lesson |
| 01:39.42 | sylvanaar | never read wow forums |
| 01:39.47 | sylvanaar | you can always tell who has |
| 01:39.48 | Tuller | always read them |
| 01:39.58 | sylvanaar | ALWAYS |
| 01:40.04 | sylvanaar | especially class forums |
| 01:40.30 | WobWork | That's what EJ is for |
| 01:40.43 | theoddone33 | you can tell who reads the hunter class forums because they have a castrandom with one spell in their macro |
| 01:40.47 | WobWork | Or at least the stickies |
| 01:41.01 | WobWork | theoddone33: could never figure that one out =P |
| 01:41.22 | theoddone33 | it's such a legend |
| 01:41.29 | sylvanaar | huntards |
| 01:41.33 | theoddone33 | and it got spread around so much that people think it does something |
| 01:41.59 | Kilroo | Granted, I wouldn't mind a scale slider, but what would that do...save me a few seconds of typing now and again. |
| 01:42.30 | sylvanaar | ok im install OSX on a vm (in know Shhhh...), and do I really need it to install every language in the whole world? |
| 01:42.40 | Tuller | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.34 | Kilroo | Well, actually I'd been doing /run GetMouseFocus():SetScale(.7) whenever Combuctor's size started to get on my nerves. |
| 01:43.46 | Tuller | oh :P |
| 01:44.19 | Kilroo | Not exactly hugely difficult, that. |
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| 01:45.11 | Kilroo | I suppose if I went poking in the source code and found where the main frame is created in the first place I could just set it there and never deal with it again |
| 01:45.57 | Kilroo | but I'm actually leaving the "inconvenience" there partly in hopes that it will someday inspire me to try to write TBag-PT3. |
| 01:48.26 | Kilroo | ...Partly because I think that could be a good addon, partly because I keep losing interest whenever I try to do something significant with Lua. I enjoy programming, but spending a workday with PHP, SQL, and Javascript usually doesn't leave me strongly motivated to come home and teach myself more lua. |
| 01:48.35 | Kilroo | Speaking of work, bedtime. |
| 01:49.43 | sylvanaar | lua> A={} B={} setmetatable(A, {__index=""}) setmetatable(B, A) print(A.FOO) |
| 01:49.43 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: nil |
| 01:50.03 | sylvanaar | lua> A={} B={} setmetatable(A, {__index=""}) setmetatable(B, A) print(B.FOO) |
| 01:50.03 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: nil |
| 01:50.18 | sylvanaar | scratches his head |
| 01:51.10 | Tuller | I had no idea that "" was a table :P |
| 01:51.17 | sylvanaar | its valid lua |
| 01:51.18 | Tuller | ""[1] |
| 01:51.26 | Tuller | "".FOO |
| 01:51.27 | sylvanaar | __index="" |
| 01:51.38 | sylvanaar | its a valid value for __index |
| 01:51.41 | Tuller | __index = function(t, k) return "" end |
| 01:52.46 | WobWork | oh god |
| 01:52.50 | WobWork | why am I reading this thread? |
| 01:53.02 | SqueeG | ? |
| 01:53.03 | Arrowmaster | are you reading the wow forums? |
| 01:54.43 | Tuller | lua> A={} B={} setmetatable(A, {__index="bacon"}) setmetatable(B, A) print(B.FOO) |
| 01:54.44 | lua_bot | Tuller: nil |
| 01:54.58 | SqueeG | i don't understand how people were calling CC a rip off? |
| 01:55.04 | WobWork | SqueeG: It's like reading a trainwreck |
| 01:55.05 | Tuller | lua> A={} B={} setmetatable(A, {__index="bacon"}) setmetatable(B, A) print(B.1) |
| 01:55.05 | lua_bot | Tuller: luabot:1: ')' expected near '.1' |
| 01:55.12 | SqueeG | rof |
| 01:55.23 | Tuller | lua> A={} B={} setmetatable(A, {__index="bacon"}) setmetatable(B, A) print(B[1]) |
| 01:55.23 | lua_bot | Tuller: nil |
| 01:55.29 | SqueeG | which thread? one of the two officials? or one on WoWI? |
| 01:55.40 | aestil | i hate wiping on stuff thats been on farm forever because people have their heads up their ass. |
| 01:55.47 | Tuller | lua> A={} B={} setmetatable(A, {__index=""}) setmetatable(B, A) print(B.match) |
| 01:55.47 | lua_bot | Tuller: nil |
| 01:55.55 | Tuller | hrm, I figured that one might have worked :P |
| 01:56.04 | sylvanaar | Tuller the "" is a shorthand which lets you define the values for any field in a table |
| 01:56.33 | Tuller | I know that |
| 01:56.38 | Tuller | but I think its trying to index "" |
| 01:57.05 | taleden | lua> A={} B={} setmetatable(A,{__index=function(t,k) return "" end}) setmetatable(B,A) print(B.fake) |
| 01:57.05 | lua_bot | taleden: nil |
| 01:57.47 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 01:59.24 | sylvanaar | clearly i'm missing something |
| 02:00.02 | taleden | lua> A=setmetatable({},{__index=function() return "" end}) print(A.fake) |
| 02:00.03 | lua_bot | taleden: No output |
| 02:00.14 | SqueeG | ... wth |
| 02:00.23 | taleden | hm.. so the extra layer throws it off |
| 02:00.25 | SqueeG | why can't one save to the default profile in ACP? xD |
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| 02:06.28 | aestil | sigh |
| 02:07.17 | SqueeG | O_______o |
| 02:08.06 | aestil | 4 wipes on Sarth3D straight. |
| 02:08.09 | aestil | people are asshats. |
| 02:12.12 | Gnarfoz | I don't wanna count how many we racked up tonight |
| 02:12.16 | Gnarfoz | still failing |
| 02:12.17 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 02:12.37 | Gnarfoz | we beat 10man a while ago, but 25 still eludes us... must be the remaining 15... |
| 02:15.35 | aestil | its been on farm since januaary for us... |
| 02:15.38 | aestil | and we only started raiding in december. |
| 02:15.47 | aestil | so its basically rediculous for people to be this retarded. |
| 02:15.57 | SqueeG | I've yet to raid =D |
| 02:16.26 | SqueeG | closest i've ever been is kara and ZG right before the Xpac when things got really easy xD |
| 02:16.38 | Arrowmaster | you can do sarth3d in 10man but not 25man? |
| 02:17.02 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: yea |
| 02:17.06 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 02:17.11 | Gnarfoz | awesome fail, right |
| 02:17.12 | pompy1 | yeah really |
| 02:17.12 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 02:17.22 | pompy1 | we're doin an immortal run right now. |
| 02:17.24 | pompy1 | thaddius outa the way |
| 02:17.34 | Gnarfoz | you'll fail on: *rolls dice* |
| 02:17.58 | Gnarfoz | smeone will d/c on Sapphiron, dying to his ice bomb |
| 02:18.01 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 02:18.05 | pompy1 | lol |
| 02:18.21 | Gnarfoz | seriously, I've given up on H:GotR |
| 02:18.22 | Stanzilla | both tanks in iceblocks on kel |
| 02:18.26 | pompy1 | noone got shocking though, but noone died, yay heals but booo no achievement. |
| 02:18.38 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: always nice, too |
| 02:18.51 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: we had that in our immortal |
| 02:19.00 | Gnarfoz | our K't startedmind controls at like 95% today |
| 02:19.01 | Gnarfoz | :o |
| 02:19.03 | Stanzilla | managed to keep them alive tho |
| 02:19.12 | Gnarfoz | was kind of... surprised |
| 02:19.23 | Stanzilla | 95%? O.o |
| 02:19.23 | Repo | 10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03ckknight * r180 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 02:19.26 | Gnarfoz | also, our MT couldn't attack him, "invalid target", only autoattack worked |
| 02:19.26 | Repo | Change the way that Cast tags are calculated. Should be quite a bit more reliable now. |
| 02:19.27 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 02:19.50 | pompy1 | we had 1 add tank on the guardian adds in kt , in a 20 man attempt |
| 02:19.53 | pompy1 | that was crazy |
| 02:20.02 | Gnarfoz | we do that all the time :\ |
| 02:20.06 | Stanzilla | our tank once died to sapphiron icebomb |
| 02:20.09 | Gnarfoz | lack of raid signups :\ |
| 02:20.11 | Stanzilla | because he was still auto attacking |
| 02:20.51 | pompy1 | heigan will be the next challenge, to make sure people can do the dance |
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| 02:21.01 | Gnarfoz | we've got some amazingly good players... and the other half of the raid are the exceptionally shitty players :< |
| 02:21.11 | Mikk | solution: merge with another similar guild |
| 02:21.16 | Mikk | takes GMs with balls tho :P |
| 02:21.28 | Stanzilla | our raidleader (MT) went afk on heigan pull |
| 02:21.30 | Gnarfoz | yeah, we're kind of assimilating one |
| 02:21.48 | Stanzilla | everyone was screaming on TS and he was like "oh sorry, was readin some whispers" |
| 02:21.51 | Stanzilla | /facepalm |
| 02:21.55 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 02:22.17 | WobWork | for some reason, I do fine in 25man heigan |
| 02:22.20 | WobWork | but terrible in 10man |
| 02:22.29 | WobWork | for the death avoidance |
| 02:22.33 | Mikk | WobWork: healer? |
| 02:22.39 | WobWork | nah, melee |
| 02:22.43 | Mikk | blinks |
| 02:22.46 | WobWork | yeah |
| 02:23.02 | Mikk | where do you tank him? on the podium or among the flames? |
| 02:23.20 | WobWork | not on the podium =) |
| 02:23.25 | pompy1 | lol |
| 02:23.27 | WobWork | Standard dance technique |
| 02:23.44 | WobWork | yet I die to the dancing in 10man |
| 02:23.44 | Mikk | "the standard dance technique" can also have ranged dancing among the flames yaknow ;) |
| 02:24.07 | WobWork | oh screw ranged =) I don't care about them! |
| 02:24.08 | Gnarfoz | can't tank him on the podium anymore, anyway |
| 02:24.08 | pompy | I wouldn't trust that lol |
| 02:24.28 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: eh? sure you can. just not during the ~20 seconds when it hurts :) |
| 02:24.39 | WobWork | of course, I've been having odd latency lately |
| 02:24.51 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: hu? you're running with only melees or what :> |
| 02:25.05 | WobWork | normal game latency in the 300-450s, while TS latency is in the 2-3k |
| 02:25.16 | Mikk | For some reason we usually tank him on the podium and have the casters dancing |
| 02:25.17 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: well, come next hour, maybe you'll have even latency... dun dun dunnnn |
| 02:25.30 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: good thing I'm at work and not playing? |
| 02:25.33 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: how's that make any sense xD |
| 02:25.34 | WobWork | whut? |
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| 02:25.46 | pompy | http://files1.guildlaunch.net/guild/library/gallery/60594/wowscrnshot_021509_2210585229.jpg from a couple weeks ago |
| 02:25.50 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: I know, it makes less sense than the other way around :) |
| 02:25.52 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: meh :\ |
| 02:26.17 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: Sorry, your joke fell flat =P |
| 02:26.20 | Mikk | Having said that, that also works just fine |
| 02:26.29 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: idd |
| 02:26.38 | Mikk | Ranged dps just becomes a bit lower |
| 02:26.41 | Gnarfoz | however, those latency values are insane |
| 02:26.57 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: They're pretty standard for Australia at times =P |
| 02:27.01 | Gnarfoz | oh. |
| 02:27.10 | Gnarfoz | hugs his ~15ms |
| 02:27.15 | pentium166 | what. |
| 02:27.23 | WobWork | My last raiding guild had the slogan: "Oceanic Raiders: We Do It One Second Behind Everyone Else!" |
| 02:27.44 | WobWork | 300ms ping is damn good latency |
| 02:28.00 | Gnarfoz | for that kind of distance, probably |
| 02:28.14 | WobWork | it's also why I suck at PvP |
| 02:28.32 | WobWork | I went hammer rogue, cause I couldn't be arsed trying to position for a dagger rogue |
| 02:28.46 | Mikk | you still want to stand behind :S |
| 02:29.04 | WobWork | yeah, but my attacks have more chance of striking if I'm -not- behind them |
| 02:29.17 | WobWork | instead of just failing because they moved slightly |
| 02:29.53 | Mikk | Yes, I'm sure the tank loves you not noticing that you're actually behind as the boss' swing speed doubles as he parries you :P |
| 02:29.53 | WobWork | There's no easy way to compensate for 15ms vs 300 |
| 02:30.03 | WobWork | Mikk: PvP fool =P |
| 02:30.04 | Gnarfoz | guess not ^^ |
| 02:30.09 | Mikk | Oh =) |
| 02:30.49 | WobWork | Mikk: but yeah, my current main is a DK tank, so I know all about parrygib =P |
| 02:31.28 | Gnarfoz | you're aware then that "doubling" is not what happens? ok :P |
| 02:31.56 | Mikk | Double sounds more dramatic :P |
| 02:34.48 | SqueeG | holy shit |
| 02:35.00 | SqueeG | i just looked at the costs for a mechano-hog |
| 02:35.12 | SqueeG | how does blizzard justify that? |
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| 02:36.29 | WobWork | it's a cashdump |
| 02:36.32 | WobWork | of course it costs a lot |
| 02:36.40 | WobWork | why do they need to justify it? |
| 02:36.49 | SqueeG | that's a ridiculous price |
| 02:36.50 | SqueeG | >.< |
| 02:36.59 | WobWork | But you want it... don't you? =P |
| 02:37.04 | SqueeG | After spending all the time / money to level engineering |
| 02:37.09 | SqueeG | then the time to get teh farmable mats |
| 02:37.12 | SqueeG | or cost |
| 02:37.18 | SqueeG | they tack another 12.5 grand onto it? |
| 02:37.44 | WobWork | You knew what you were going into when you started training engineering =P |
| 02:37.54 | WobWork | it's one of the best moneysinks in the game |
| 02:38.04 | SqueeG | i've never had something cost a phenomenal anmount as an engi |
| 02:38.08 | SqueeG | yea things have been expensive |
| 02:38.10 | SqueeG | but not like that |
| 02:40.27 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r252 services/chatsections.lua: |
| 02:40.30 | Repo | i guess __index="" does not work, or at least I forgot how it works |
| 02:41.47 | Mikk | Well erm.... problem #1 with your reasoning: |
| 02:41.54 | Mikk | You do not need to be an engineer to use a hog |
| 02:42.30 | Mikk | (I personally think you should but.. you don't) |
| 02:42.35 | SqueeG | that still makes it the most expensive mount in game |
| 02:42.43 | sylvanaar | i dont know why I got so much hate about it, but being able to use require and having your code run in and out of wow is nice |
| 02:42.47 | sylvanaar | how much does it cost |
| 02:42.52 | Mikk | no, the traveller's tundra mammoth is more expensive |
| 02:42.57 | Mikk | has 2 of em |
| 02:43.11 | sylvanaar | i have the mammoth, thanks to chinese gold farmers |
| 02:43.11 | SqueeG | xD |
| 02:43.21 | SqueeG | how do you make your goldz mikk? :p |
| 02:43.34 | Mikk | massive amounts of hours put into AH whoring |
| 02:43.45 | sylvanaar | he works on the auctioneer project (dont you?) |
| 02:43.47 | SqueeG | i always lose when i AH whore xD |
| 02:43.58 | Mikk | i've done a bit of work for auctioneer yes |
| 02:44.26 | sylvanaar | i swear __index="" worked once |
| 02:44.34 | Mikk | but that has less to do with it... i only started doing that after i started playing the AH |
| 02:44.38 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 02:44.38 | aestil | 2 more people need maly6 |
| 02:44.44 | aestil | but this is fail group for maly6. |
| 02:44.54 | Mikk | aestil: mischan? =) |
| 02:45.08 | aestil | Lawl. sorry. |
| 02:45.12 | Gnarfoz | same thing btw |
| 02:45.16 | aestil | miss everything. |
| 02:45.20 | Gnarfoz | got maly6 in 10man, not in 25 |
| 02:45.20 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 02:45.27 | aestil | IRC != gtalk |
| 02:45.37 | aestil | gnarfoz, i think its harder in 10 mans? |
| 02:45.42 | aestil | i dunno. |
| 02:45.47 | Gnarfoz | not certain |
| 02:45.52 | Gnarfoz | we did it with 8 DPS xD |
| 02:46.03 | Gnarfoz | 1 healer, 1 tank, awesome kill ^^ |
| 02:46.18 | aestil | very cool. |
| 02:46.33 | aestil | 310% speed drake is good. |
| 02:46.36 | Gnarfoz | yep. |
| 02:46.52 | Gnarfoz | I'd like the black one, but at least I have the plagued one ^^ |
| 02:47.22 | Gnarfoz | anyway, without gunning for achievements, 3.0 raid content is so boring that we're struggling to fill our 25man raids |
| 02:47.28 | Gnarfoz | bleh |
| 02:47.35 | Gnarfoz | almost 4am again |
| 02:47.38 | Gnarfoz | x< |
| 02:49.02 | Stanzilla | maly6 is really easy in 25m O.o |
| 02:49.08 | Gnarfoz | unless |
| 02:49.11 | Gnarfoz | you have fail dps |
| 02:49.11 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 02:49.16 | Stanzilla | we really failed on sparks today and still made it :P |
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| 02:50.11 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Should I post a ticket about the tab-flashing? :) |
| 02:50.28 | Mikk | meh.. we must be missing something |
| 02:50.51 | Mikk | i mean.. we nail Make Quick Werk Of Him even when running with half the raid full of crap geared alts |
| 02:50.57 | Mikk | but nowhere close on maly6 |
| 02:52.57 | aestil | maly 6 is much harder than the 3 min PW |
| 02:53.02 | sylvanaar | i guess this is as good as it gets http://wtf.pastey.net/110762 |
| 02:53.08 | aestil | and its very dependant on group makeup. |
| 02:53.12 | Gnarfoz | we still don't have that, either (heroic patchwerk 3min xD) |
| 02:53.13 | sylvanaar | Torhal you mean colored flashes, yeah |
| 02:54.04 | Mikk | idk... stack 2 sparks, pop hero, nuknuknuk |
| 02:54.13 | Mikk | just seems like p2 is taking way too long |
| 02:54.31 | aestil | you have everyone |
| 02:54.36 | aestil | stand in the sparks right? |
| 02:54.41 | aestil | you just have to heal through it |
| 02:54.48 | aestil | you have ranged kill the scions while standing in the sparks |
| 02:55.15 | Mikk | so key is having sparks around for p2? |
| 02:57.00 | pcgod | key is to get only 1 vortex in p1 ... |
| 02:57.16 | Mikk | we tend to have people sit in the sparks and nuke maly until the spark goes away |
| 02:57.25 | Mikk | i guess that's not the right use for it then :S |
| 03:00.22 | aestil | mikk |
| 03:00.26 | aestil | the sparks keep coming in P2 |
| 03:00.34 | aestil | you do both. |
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| 03:15.01 | sylvanaar | Torhal i can tell you how to patch yours |
| 03:15.20 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Ah, nice. |
| 03:15.34 | Torhal | Then I can finally get my UI down to one chat frame |
| 03:15.56 | sylvanaar | im giving you the basic functionality, but it would need "tweaking" |
| 03:17.07 | sylvanaar | http://prat.pastey.net/110766 |
| 03:17.24 | sylvanaar | Torhal this changes the text color - that what we said it was going to do? |
| 03:17.54 | Torhal | Didn't say, really...just wanted some kind of indication that something was happening in a tab that wasn't the active one. |
| 03:18.09 | sylvanaar | hm |
| 03:18.40 | Torhal | If I have a tab for the Guild channel, and I'm currently on the Party tab, for example. |
| 03:18.53 | sylvanaar | meh, then this wont help |
| 03:18.57 | Torhal | Ah, kk |
| 03:19.39 | Torhal | Currently a tab will only flash if you receive a whisper, which makes it kind of useless (WTG Blizzard) |
| 03:20.27 | BWMerlin | that tab flashing on whisper has stopped working for me properly |
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| 03:33.38 | sylvanaar | Torhal try http://prat.pastey.net/110767 |
| 03:39.17 | pompy | WTF, someone fuckin died on sapphiron and ruined our immortal |
| 03:39.40 | BWMerlin | bl |
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| 03:54.36 | sylvanaar | it doesnt help that CC removed buggrabber |
| 03:55.02 | BWMerlin | lol what |
| 03:55.06 | Zyndrome | pompy , fail @ iceblock? :< |
| 03:55.09 | sylvanaar | you still have yours? |
| 03:55.44 | SqueeG | removed buggrabber? |
| 03:55.44 | BWMerlin | no just installed it again thought it was odd i didnt have it |
| 03:56.02 | sylvanaar | its gone |
| 03:56.15 | SqueeG | wth? |
| 03:56.16 | sylvanaar | you have it now? |
| 03:56.21 | BWMerlin | and sack as well |
| 03:56.22 | sylvanaar | i still dont |
| 03:56.27 | sylvanaar | i have sack |
| 03:56.35 | pompy | Zyndrome: yeah, he supposedly seemed to be behind one but died |
| 03:57.08 | Zyndrome | sucks |
| 03:57.57 | Zyndrome | and speaking of Immortal, we completed it a 2nd time last night, for people who didn't have it, and we're not going for it ever again until 3.1 ... those who were AFK and don't have Immortal, can bugger off :P |
| 03:58.16 | Zyndrome | The Immortal in Ulduar is less shit |
| 03:59.09 | pompy | Zyndrome: yeah basically same for us too, this was gonna be the last night of immortal |
| 03:59.17 | Skellum | Immortal is such a fucking pain in the ass |
| 04:03.15 | pompy | oh and of course, the kt attempt was flawless |
| 04:03.20 | pompy | 1 death |
| 04:03.24 | pompy | on sapp |
| 04:05.25 | Zyndrome | our first Immortal could've failed, if priests didn't have Guardian Spirit |
| 04:05.34 | Zyndrome | (a player disconnected) |
| 04:06.28 | sylvanaar | Torhal ok - now that i have buggrabber, i have a patched version for you |
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| 04:08.56 | sylvanaar | Torhal_ ok - now that i have buggrabber, i have a patched version for you |
| 04:09.52 | sylvanaar | http://prat.pastey.net/110768 |
| 04:10.54 | Torhal_ | Looks like a drop-in file replacement...is it? |
| 04:19.38 | sylvanaar | Torhal_ yeah |
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| 04:20.49 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Ah, well...I was going through and noticed this difference: |
| 04:20.56 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:21.11 | Torhal | ...no longer has "ChatFrame" in it...is there another file I need to change? |
| 04:21.19 | Torhal | Or should I just wait until you push? |
| 04:22.00 | sylvanaar | huh |
| 04:22.28 | Torhal | In FCF_FLashTab |
| 04:22.54 | Torhal | The version I'm using has the line I pasted. The version you pastied doesn't have "ChatFrame"..i, just i |
| 04:24.17 | sylvanaar | oh' |
| 04:24.56 | sylvanaar | odd because the one i am looking at does |
| 04:25.14 | Torhal | The pasty is: |
| 04:25.15 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.21 | Torhal | Weird. |
| 04:26.53 | sylvanaar | im looking at the pastey |
| 04:26.59 | sylvanaar | http://prat.pastey.net/110768 |
| 04:27.07 | sylvanaar | oh i see |
| 04:27.26 | sylvanaar | wrong pastey |
| 04:27.36 | Torhal | D'oh |
| 04:27.50 | sylvanaar | they flash |
| 04:28.08 | sylvanaar | not perfectly, but they do flash |
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| 04:32.50 | sylvanaar | Torhal this one works better http://prat.pastey.net/110770 |
| 04:33.18 | sylvanaar | should be what you need |
| 04:33.53 | Torhal | The other one worked like a charm...just tested...but if this one is even better I'll take it :) |
| 04:33.59 | Torhal | Danke. |
| 04:38.04 | sylvanaar | yeah, it looks nicer |
| 04:41.31 | sylvanaar | Torhal the thing is you can't use this and control the tab visibility (with the current code) |
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| 05:25.00 | PProvost | So... if I use git for my ace based addon, what is the best way to do what I used to do with svn:externals? |
| 05:37.22 | digmouse | sounds like .pkgmeta will handle it |
| 05:37.35 | Arrowmaster | PProvost: you use .pkgmeta, or do you mean that you actually checkouted out from svn without using --ignore-externals? |
| 05:37.55 | PProvost | I know pkgmeta from a packaging perspectice |
| 05:38.06 | PProvost | But I still used externals for development |
| 05:38.11 | PProvost | To make life easier |
| 05:38.33 | PProvost | Want the same ease of development |
| 05:38.46 | PProvost | No dice? :) |
| 05:38.48 | VonhintenHOME` | They're not likely to go live this tuesday, are they? |
| 05:38.58 | PProvost | 3.1? Hell no |
| 05:39.20 | Arrowmaster | PProvost: not really, you could just put svn checkouts in the correct places but youd still need to run svn up on them |
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| 05:39.44 | PProvost | Yep Figured. |
| 05:39.46 | PProvost | Thanks |
| 05:39.52 | Arrowmaster | most of us disembed for development i think |
| 05:39.53 | PProvost | Too bad there's no cool shortcut for that |
| 05:39.59 | PProvost | I'll go back to that I think |
| 05:40.04 | PProvost | I used to be that way |
| 05:40.29 | Arrowmaster | if the externals were git repos you could use git submodules |
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| 05:46.23 | PProvost | Arrowmaster: yeah, but they arent |
| 05:46.25 | PProvost | No worries |
| 05:46.28 | PProvost | Disembed ftw |
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| 05:56.06 | anotherdude | Can anyone help me, I play wow, kinda stuck, really need help! |
| 05:56.09 | anotherdude | IE is only printing 1/~5 pages from hotmail msg :P |
| 05:56.20 | anotherdude | how can I get it to print all 5?!?! |
| 05:57.01 | BWMerlin | if i understand what you are saying change your print options to print all pages not just current page |
| 05:57.07 | BWMerlin | that and dont use IE :P |
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| 06:17.04 | sylvanaar | 15 minutes |
| 06:17.05 | sylvanaar | wow |
| 06:17.32 | sylvanaar | the mods didnt even kick him |
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| 06:19.11 | Parnic | is curse svn lagged out right now or is my tsvn busted? can't commit or update... |
| 06:20.54 | PProvost | Me too Parnic |
| 06:21.03 | PProvost | I thought it was me, but tried two machines |
| 06:21.10 | Fisker- | gah |
| 06:21.12 | Parnic | kk, just checking. thanks :) |
| 06:21.18 | Fisker- | yet another new version of tsvn |
| 06:21.28 | Parnic | yeah fisker, they need to get themselves an auto-updater |
| 06:21.30 | Parnic | that crap is just annoying |
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| 06:22.09 | PProvost | I skip every 2 or 3 tsvn releases |
| 06:22.13 | PProvost | Too damn annoying |
| 06:22.15 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 06:22.19 | Fisker- | new major out a couple of days ago though |
| 06:22.23 | PProvost | Mostly run cmd line svn |
| 06:22.28 | PProvost | But like the icons in my explorer |
| 06:22.29 | Fisker- | also annoys me that they say "omg restart" |
| 06:22.29 | PProvost | :D |
| 06:22.32 | Fisker- | but you can just ignore it |
| 06:22.33 | PProvost | And the diff tool |
| 06:22.43 | Parnic | Packager Status: Can't connect to repository_manager, please try again later. |
| 06:23.44 | PProvost | And I just love that whatever it is doing, it locks up both svn.exe and tsvn.exe and you have to kill them |
| 06:23.46 | PProvost | WTF? |
| 06:24.39 | Parnic | is going to let it sit overnight trying to commit ;) |
| 06:24.56 | PProvost | is happy he's moving to git |
| 06:25.30 | PProvost | one addon at a time... |
| 06:26.21 | sylvanaar | those frequent releases covered some bugs that I got hit with |
| 06:27.05 | sylvanaar | mostly related to merge tracking over an accidental deletion of a repo folder |
| 06:27.06 | PProvost | Too bad you can't make IRC hit ckk's pager eh? :) |
| 06:27.12 | sylvanaar | hes on |
| 06:27.31 | sylvanaar | or at least he was an hour ago |
| 06:27.32 | PProvost | I pinged him on #CurseForge when this started |
| 06:27.44 | PProvost | But yeah, was chatting with him a few hours ago |
| 06:27.48 | PProvost | Oh well |
| 06:27.50 | PProvost | In the morning |
| 06:27.54 | PProvost | later |
| 06:27.54 | sylvanaar | ah, he probably fixed something then went home /snicker |
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| 06:46.47 | Torhal | Gah. My connection to my realm is fail. |
| 06:46.55 | Torhal | Been disconnected four times in OS. |
| 06:46.57 | Zhinjio | Hey Torhal |
| 06:47.01 | Torhal | Hey man |
| 06:47.30 | Torhal | Good thing is that I'm now getting 12FPS in OS instead of 2FPS. |
| 06:47.50 | Torhal | I'm hoping for at least 40FPS when my GeForce 9500 shows up. |
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| 06:53.56 | digmouse | Torhal: get a better CPU |
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| 07:13.01 | sb|work | morning |
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| 07:14.28 | nevcairiel | morning |
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| 07:15.40 | BWMerlin | evening |
| 07:17.03 | nevcairiel | its always morning on the interweb! |
| 07:18.01 | Pucmel | its a lie |
| 07:18.12 | BWMerlin | i dont get up till the afternoon |
| 07:18.37 | nevcairiel | For me its morning when i get up, time is irrelevant |
| 07:18.44 | nevcairiel | but its actually 8 am :( |
| 07:19.09 | BWMerlin | i have lost all sense of time |
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| 07:23.22 | digmouse | 15:23 here |
| 07:23.38 | sb|work | 15:23 would be nice... :o |
| 07:24.07 | sb|work | want to go home already.. *sigh* monday sucks :) |
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| 07:29.34 | TradeMark | ckknight: pitbull just had a full memory error |
| 07:29.48 | ckknight | got a stacktrace or anything? |
| 07:30.01 | TradeMark | happened right in the middle of a boss fight o.O so had to quickly close the error |
| 07:30.13 | TradeMark | I'll see if I can bring it back up |
| 07:30.49 | TradeMark | hmm nah I did a /reloadui :< |
| 07:31.29 | TradeMark | it could have been something else - although pitbull was the only thing that visually fudged up |
| 07:31.38 | TradeMark | I will endeavour to get a closer look next time |
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| 07:51.15 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 07:51.20 | NeoTron | svn.wowace.com having issues? |
| 07:52.18 | nevcairiel | define issues |
| 07:52.23 | NeoTron | doesn't work |
| 07:52.28 | NeoTron | connects and hangs |
| 07:52.35 | nevcairiel | Hm you're right |
| 07:52.53 | nevcairiel | sadly nothing i can do to fix it |
| 07:52.55 | nevcairiel | except |
| 07:52.56 | selckin | ppl talking about that earlier too |
| 07:53.04 | nevcairiel | Kaelten ckknight: ping, fix svn! :) |
| 07:53.35 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 07:56.02 | Groktar | pounces nevcairiel |
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| 08:04.31 | theoddone33 | (4) Set: You have a chance for the effect of your Missile Barrage, Hot Streak, or Brain Freeze tatlent not to be consumed when you cast the spells which benefit. |
| 08:04.32 | theoddone33 | nice |
| 08:05.36 | nevcairiel | that text doesn't really make sense to me |
| 08:08.05 | Fisker- | frozen targets are a guaranteed crit |
| 08:08.15 | Fisker- | but they also lose the thing keeping them frozen |
| 08:08.20 | Fisker- | or something like that |
| 08:08.24 | Fisker- | this bonus just keeps it |
| 08:10.35 | Groktar | pounces Fisker- |
| 08:10.53 | Groktar | sticks his tongue in Fisker-'s ear |
| 08:11.24 | Torhal | digmouse: I just got a quad core. |
| 08:11.37 | Torhal | But I'm running on an on-board ATI 3100 |
| 08:11.39 | digmouse | Torhal: enough |
| 08:11.54 | digmouse | get a 4870X2! |
| 08:11.59 | Fisker- | ati sucks |
| 08:12.13 | Torhal | Fisker-: That's why I have a GeForce 9500 on its way. |
| 08:12.15 | NeoTron | and nvidia sucks (less) |
| 08:12.17 | BWMerlin | not a fan of ati either |
| 08:12.30 | digmouse | why 9500.. |
| 08:12.33 | digmouse | that sucks |
| 08:12.43 | NeoTron | too bad the market for entry is so hard. a third player would be beneficial I think |
| 08:13.06 | digmouse | a 9600GT wont cost you much and it's twice better |
| 08:13.06 | Torhal | digmouse: Budget. And it's one hell of a lot better than what I have. |
| 08:13.30 | digmouse | uh, that's true |
| 08:13.35 | Xinhuan | what doesn't make sense nevcairiel? |
| 08:13.41 | Xinhuan | about that bonus |
| 08:13.45 | nevcairiel | the wording of that text |
| 08:13.47 | BWMerlin | there are iirc 4 gfx card makers |
| 08:13.50 | nevcairiel | its like missing half the words |
| 08:13.51 | BWMerlin | intel is the biggest |
| 08:13.58 | Xinhuan | like how |
| 08:14.01 | Xinhuan | it makes perfect sense to me |
| 08:14.12 | NeoTron | Intel is big dude to embedded chips but not competetive on the highend |
| 08:14.13 | nevcairiel | also it says "tatlent" |
| 08:14.14 | digmouse | with benefit? |
| 08:14.21 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 08:14.25 | Xinhuan | apart from the spelling error |
| 08:14.29 | Xinhuan | it reads perfect sense |
| 08:14.32 | digmouse | those 3 are talented effects |
| 08:14.34 | NeoTron | isn't Matrox still around? |
| 08:14.35 | digmouse | ye |
| 08:14.39 | nevcairiel | the "which benefit" part is just weird |
| 08:14.48 | Xinhuan | Missile Barrage is a 20% proc buff, it makes your next Arcane Missiles take half cast time |
| 08:14.52 | digmouse | I think it's with benefit |
| 08:15.07 | digmouse | "with" not "whick" |
| 08:15.14 | digmouse | s/whick/which |
| 08:15.20 | Xinhuan | Hot Streak is a proc buff whenever you crit 2x in a row, it makes your next pyroblast free of mana cost and instant cast |
| 08:15.23 | nevcairiel | i probably would've said "which benefit from these effects." |
| 08:15.40 | Xinhuan | Brain Freeze is a proc, it gives your next fireball instant cast (not free of casting cost though) |
| 08:16.16 | Xinhuan | the whole set bonus just says when you cast those benefitting spells (AM, Fireball, Pyro), there's a chance that buff doesn't get consumed |
| 08:16.29 | digmouse | but how much change |
| 08:16.29 | nevcairiel | I know what it means, i just think its worded poorly |
| 08:16.30 | Xinhuan | and you can recast it |
| 08:16.44 | digmouse | I think that thing would be a PPM |
| 08:16.55 | Xinhuan | nobody knows |
| 08:17.02 | Xinhuan | what the chance is, or how it procs |
| 08:17.07 | Xinhuan | or if there's a cd |
| 08:17.20 | Xinhuan | or if it just dosen't consume the buff, or if it actively refreshes the duration of the buff |
| 08:17.33 | digmouse | most procs without a chance in a wording are PPMs |
| 08:19.07 | Xinhuan | unless the proc rate is awesome, i can say the bonus sucks ;p |
| 08:19.28 | nevcairiel | my 4pc bonus is awesome |
| 08:20.02 | Xinhuan | one reason is that because you need time to notice it procced to react to it |
| 08:20.21 | Xinhuan | and your next spell you cast could already reproc it leading to proc wastage |
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| 08:23.35 | Groktar | whispers a series of lewd suggestions into nevcairiel's ear |
| 08:25.12 | Torhal | Heroic Old Kingdom makes baby Jesus cry. |
| 08:26.09 | BWMerlin | lol |
| 08:26.56 | BWMerlin | found it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_card#Manufacturers |
| 08:28.11 | TradeMark | is there like a /script that tells me memory usage? |
| 08:28.22 | TradeMark | need to install a LDB addon for it methinks |
| 08:28.46 | BWMerlin | do you want total mem useage or per addon/lib? |
| 08:28.47 | sylvanaar | i like how some of the SVN servers are versioned 1.6 and build against 1.5 |
| 08:28.49 | TradeMark | total |
| 08:29.03 | BWMerlin | because i have always found the blizzard ping/mem meter good |
| 08:29.34 | TradeMark | I'm nowhere close to the default UI xD |
| 08:30.15 | BWMerlin | well there is optionless house |
| 08:30.32 | BWMerlin | and there is a broker addon i just cant remember its name |
| 08:30.52 | BWMerlin | open up CC and type in cpu/memory/performance and see what comes up |
| 08:32.51 | sylvanaar | acp has it in its tooltips |
| 08:32.54 | sylvanaar | if that helps |
| 08:33.19 | nevcairiel | i use Broker_SysMon |
| 08:33.29 | nevcairiel | and optionless house when i need cpu numbers |
| 08:33.31 | sylvanaar | with the added advantage of also telling you which embedded libs are included in the memory number |
| 08:33.52 | BWMerlin | really never noticed |
| 08:34.00 | BWMerlin | but <3 acp |
| 08:34.18 | sylvanaar | There is a line: Active Embeds |
| 08:34.37 | sylvanaar | which shows which of the embedded libraries are really running from there |
| 08:34.47 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:35.40 | sylvanaar | doesnt make a nice sorted list though |
| 08:40.12 | Groktar | drags Fisker- off to bed |
| 08:40.21 | Groktar | smothers Fisker- with a pillow |
| 08:40.24 | Fisker- | i can't let you do that |
| 08:40.24 | Groktar | eats Fisker- |
| 08:41.07 | sylvanaar | im installing osx on a vm, its almost done |
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| 08:42.12 | Groktar | pro |
| 08:42.20 | sylvanaar | it really is |
| 08:42.26 | Groktar | fails at math homework again |
| 08:43.28 | sylvanaar | I still dont see why it needs to install every language there is by default |
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| 08:48.46 | quiescens | maybe you're multilingual |
| 08:49.48 | Groktar | gives up and loads mathematica |
| 08:55.26 | TradeMark | ckknight: turns out it's not PB :) |
| 08:55.33 | TradeMark | just happened again, several times |
| 08:55.42 | TradeMark | different addon each time |
| 08:55.51 | TradeMark | not sure wtf is going on, one isn't behaving |
| 09:01.05 | Arrowmaster | do you have cowtip? |
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| 09:09.14 | Groktar | you're kidding me |
| 09:10.13 | Groktar | so i got fed up with dumb math problem after doing it 3 different ways and getting the exact same answer, which our online thingy kept telling me was wrong |
| 09:10.13 | TradeMark | yes Arrowmaster |
| 09:10.18 | TradeMark | could be that you reckon? |
| 09:10.22 | Groktar | so i put it into mathematica and got the same answer :( |
| 09:10.24 | TradeMark | that's the first one that came up |
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| 09:13.37 | Aiiane | oo, I see the Drama&Macros forum will not disappoint me today |
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| 09:13.51 | nevcairiel | new drama? |
| 09:16.41 | Aiiane | SDDD |
| 09:17.21 | Aiiane | (same drama, different day) |
| 09:19.22 | Aiiane | the "formal legal action" bit could probably stand clarification, but my guess is that it was more included in there for things like actively attempting to disrupt servers via addons or some such |
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| 09:19.36 | Aiiane | at which point it's going beyond code and more towards malicious actions |
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| 09:33.42 | digmouse | Xinhuan: T6 4pc bonus = best ever |
| 09:35.05 | selckin | do people care about owner/pet breakdown in dmg meters? |
| 09:35.24 | selckin | trying to decide i should make them 1 virtual unit or keep them seperate |
| 09:35.41 | nevcairiel | some might care |
| 09:35.51 | nevcairiel | hunters maybe |
| 09:35.57 | nevcairiel | since their pet scales too |
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| 11:02.59 | Fisker- | nevcairiel my archnemesis |
| 11:03.17 | Fisker- | it wouldn't be possible to make an actionbar scroll? |
| 11:03.48 | BWMerlin | that would be cool |
| 11:03.51 | Fisker- | like you have 4 buttons 1-4 and they're bound 1-4 |
| 11:04.01 | Fisker- | So you have 2 appear on 1's place, 1 on 4's place and etc. |
| 11:04.05 | Fisker- | but the keybindings stay the same |
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| 11:07.34 | BWMerlin | thats an awesome idea |
| 11:07.40 | BWMerlin | you should go make it now |
| 11:07.42 | Fisker- | if possible :P |
| 11:07.47 | Fisker- | and i don't make mods :O |
| 11:07.49 | sztanpet | thats already done |
| 11:07.55 | Fisker- | link or it didn't happen |
| 11:08.08 | sztanpet | thats how actionbar paging works |
| 11:08.24 | sztanpet | the default blizz actionbars do that |
| 11:08.34 | Fisker- | no? |
| 11:08.35 | vhaarr | no it isn't |
| 11:08.41 | vhaarr | goes to work |
| 11:08.57 | sztanpet | its not huh? |
| 11:09.08 | Fisker- | It's performed within one bar |
| 11:09.26 | Fisker- | And you probably can't trigger actionbar paging without a hardware event |
| 11:09.32 | Fisker- | which my idea is about |
| 11:09.53 | Fisker- | Basically i had the idea that an actionbar mod should be able to sort actions based on cooldown :P |
| 11:10.26 | BWMerlin | so it would keep changing what was on the 1 key based on what was off CD? |
| 11:10.30 | Elkano | with "keybindings stay the same" do you mean 1 keeps bound to position 1 or 1 keeps bound to button 1 (now at position 4)? |
| 11:10.31 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: i dunno if you still care about the 3.0 CG, but i can't create a set which unequips my stuff, i stirp my char, click "new set" and save it, but when i switch back to my normal and back to the naked one, i keep my stuff on, and when i edit it, it shows as stuff equipped too =( |
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| 11:11.06 | Fisker- | wouldn't change keybindings |
| 11:11.29 | Fisker- | because i don't think it can |
| 11:11.41 | Elkano | well, from a mouse point of view it would though |
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| 11:12.51 | Elkano | since that would eg allow you to set up a button per group member wrt decursing and move the corresponding buttons in place |
| 11:15.16 | Fisker- | nevcairiel answer meh! |
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| 11:20.32 | Megalon | nevcairiel: you mean something like http://www.wowace.com/projects/closet-gnome/tickets/6-not-unequiping-items-with-naked-set/ |
| 11:21.01 | nevcairiel | i suppose |
| 11:21.23 | Megalon | i set my cg to not update anymore because i fixed it locally |
| 11:21.43 | nevcairiel | 3.1 will fix it anyway |
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| 11:43.02 | kagaro | is the svn server wedged? |
| 11:47.30 | BWMerlin | apparently |
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| 11:51.47 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8464917833&postId=84639564440&sid=1#11 |
| 11:51.48 | Fisker- | faaaaaaaaaail |
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| 11:54.17 | Fisker- | nevcairiel my friend :( |
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| 12:00.33 | kagaro | ckknight: you there |
| 12:04.28 | kagaro | or any other curse employe |
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| 13:33.51 | phyber | pokes git.wowace.com |
| 13:34.00 | nevcairiel | the whole repo dealy is offline |
| 13:34.15 | phyber | yeah, i'm guessing it's the same as that svn issue that's in the tracker? |
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| 14:03.24 | PProvost | Bummer. repos still down? We were talking about that 8 hours ago. :( |
| 14:03.34 | PProvost | When I went to bed. :P |
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| 14:09.03 | selckin | sleep longer |
| 14:10.17 | BWMerlin | seems it has been the bad money for a few place |
| 14:10.45 | BWMerlin | wht.com went down and lost a lot of its BD and now the repo is down |
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| 14:31.24 | ckknight | so you know, we're having the repos server rebooted. |
| 14:32.31 | nevcairiel | finally |
| 14:32.52 | ckknight | hopefully I can figure out what took it down once it comes back up |
| 14:33.51 | sb|work | mh - blame Fisker- |
| 14:34.33 | Stanzilla | nah, Ackis |
| 14:34.36 | Stanzilla | it's always him |
| 14:34.47 | syeren | [14:34:17] |H[W To] [Jzong]: BG?!? |
| 14:34.54 | syeren | Where the hell is the |H coming from O_o; |
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| 14:36.04 | PProvost | ckknight: svn was horked by midnight MST when I tried it |
| 14:36.17 | PProvost | MST / MDT whatever |
| 14:36.26 | ckknight | and I was sleepy at said time |
| 14:36.28 | PProvost | Denver time LOL |
| 14:36.39 | PProvost | Just so you know where to go looking in logs and whatnot |
| 14:36.52 | ckknight | in any event, this is why you should use a DVCS |
| 14:37.03 | ckknight | :P |
| 14:38.27 | PProvost | I use git |
| 14:38.36 | PProvost | Was trying to sync Ace3 down to one of my machines |
| 14:38.45 | PProvost | :S |
| 14:39.21 | ckknight | k |
| 14:39.28 | [draco] | syeren: looks like broken color codes to me |
| 14:39.31 | ckknight | nevcairiel: didn't you wanna switch Ace3 to git? :P |
| 14:39.55 | nevcairiel | I want to |
| 14:40.01 | BWMerlin | syeren: H might be your faction (horde)? |
| 14:40.04 | nevcairiel | Kaelten cried that every addon using it as external would break |
| 14:40.10 | syeren | I'm Alliance. |
| 14:40.13 | ckknight | yea, that's true |
| 14:40.18 | syeren | This is the latest revision of errrrrrrrr |
| 14:40.19 | syeren | Prat. |
| 14:40.22 | Kaelten | pardon? |
| 14:40.37 | PProvost | My addon "broke" when I converted from svn to git and I'm just dealing with it. |
| 14:40.38 | Kaelten | oh that, yeah |
| 14:40.44 | Kaelten | but I'd also be anti git anyway |
| 14:40.53 | PProvost | And besides, how is this change different from the URL change when the CF swapover happened. |
| 14:41.31 | PProvost | I wonder if I could mirror the Ace3 code on Github and use a module... hrm... |
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| 14:41.42 | PProvost | kidding |
| 14:41.47 | PProvost | I have no time to do that |
| 14:41.48 | PProvost | :) |
| 14:42.04 | Kaelten | heh |
| 14:42.28 | BWMerlin | why the change to git, is it better to svn or differnt or what? |
| 14:42.35 | ckknight | yes, far better |
| 14:42.40 | ckknight | SVN sucks balls |
| 14:42.54 | Kaelten | server is up now |
| 14:43.00 | PProvost | although sub-modules are weird |
| 14:43.00 | ckknight | centralized version control systems are very inferior to distributed |
| 14:43.02 | PProvost | in git |
| 14:43.19 | selckin | because you think of them as svn submodiles, which they are not |
| 14:43.43 | PProvost | No I don't actually |
| 14:44.03 | PProvost | Don't get me wrong. I'm loving git. converting all my stuff over to it |
| 14:44.09 | nevcairiel | ckknight: i guess you need to slap Repo too now |
| 14:44.11 | PProvost | Quite happy |
| 14:44.24 | ckknight | @project curseforge |
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| 14:45.30 | ckknight | @project curseforge |
| 14:46.00 | Fisker- | ckknight my arch nemesis |
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| 14:46.08 | ckknight | Fisker-: go away, come back later |
| 14:46.16 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8464837373&sid=1 <-*hopes it means that we get account merges today* |
| 14:46.23 | Fisker- | why so srs? |
| 14:47.23 | ckknight | @project curseforge |
| 14:47.24 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 342 days ago. Tickets: 192/1250 |
| 14:47.29 | ckknight | okay then |
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| 14:48.20 | sb|work | Fisker-: you mean eu battle.net? |
| 14:48.27 | Kalroth | Fisker-: don't tease ckk when he's breaking Repo! |
| 14:49.03 | Fisker- | eu battle.net is running sb|work |
| 14:49.12 | Fisker- | but we can't merge wow accounts from europe yet |
| 14:50.12 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03kagaro * r318 kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: fixed for an upvalue and nil art error |
| 14:50.34 | sb|work | oh okay |
| 14:50.52 | sb|work | why is it that important to you? :o |
| 14:51.23 | Fisker- | "omg pet!" |
| 14:51.38 | Fisker- | and propogating to new better tech is always better! |
| 14:52.26 | Fisker- | Only thing that annoys me at the moment is that accounts created on the US battle.net take like 10-20 seconds more to login on the EU site than the US site |
| 14:53.25 | sb|work | so EU and US battle.net accounts are the same? |
| 14:54.15 | ckknight | Fisker-: do me a favor |
| 14:54.16 | nevcairiel | yes, they are global |
| 14:54.51 | Fisker- | yeah sb|work |
| 14:55.00 | Fisker- | But it looks like the account database is still region specific |
| 14:55.07 | ckknight | Fisker-: imagine putting a toothpick underneath your big toe's nail and slamming your foot against the wall as hard as you can |
| 14:55.25 | Fisker- | So it fails to find you on the eu database and it queries the US database where it gets a hit |
| 14:55.34 | Fisker- | atleast that's the only thing i can think of |
| 14:55.52 | Fisker- | please don't ckknight |
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| 14:56.06 | nevcairiel | ckknight: the git daemon (read-only access) seems to be broken :( ssh access works fine |
| 14:56.06 | Fisker- | painful enough to hit your toe against a wall |
| 14:56.12 | ckknight | k |
| 14:56.28 | ckknight | nevcairiel: try now? |
| 14:56.34 | nevcairiel | works |
| 14:56.36 | nevcairiel | thanks |
| 14:56.37 | ckknight | great |
| 14:56.50 | sb|work | uhm Fisker- |
| 14:57.08 | sb|work | i have the option to transfer wow account |
| 14:57.16 | sb|work | ah okay, nevermind :) |
| 14:57.20 | nevcairiel | sb|work: click it and selecte EU :P |
| 14:57.28 | sb|work | yah.. just got that ;) |
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| 14:58.51 | Fisker- | kinda annoyed they didn't bother backportning battle.net classic to Battle.net 2.0 |
| 14:59.48 | Vangual_ | i can't wait to agree to new tos and whatnot either.. |
| 15:00.16 | Fisker- | i no rite? |
| 15:00.28 | Fisker- | Mobile Authenticator is going to be awesome as well |
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| 15:05.03 | Fisker- | Herr robotusch |
| 15:08.17 | sb|work | *sigh* how will you guys handle ulduar legendary stuff? |
| 15:08.50 | Stanzilla | poll on the forums /facepalm |
| 15:08.56 | sb|work | haha :p |
| 15:09.05 | sb|work | this is soo fail |
| 15:09.08 | Stanzilla | yes.. |
| 15:09.10 | sb|work | needs to be ~100% player |
| 15:09.16 | nevcairiel | we auction off the first drop |
| 15:09.27 | nevcairiel | and that guy gets the 30 shards |
| 15:09.29 | sb|work | thats fail.. what if some 70% attendance player gets it? |
| 15:09.35 | nevcairiel | we won't let him =) |
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| 15:09.44 | sb|work | see, thats my problem :p |
| 15:09.55 | sb|work | there are ~2 100% healers.. and thats me (guild lead) and my gf... |
| 15:10.01 | nevcairiel | there is currently 3 healers left on max DKP |
| 15:10.02 | sb|work | so its going to be QQ :p |
| 15:10.10 | nevcairiel | and i doubt any of us will spend any DKP until they have it |
| 15:10.19 | sb|work | imagine what happens if i loot to self as GL... |
| 15:10.22 | sb|work | same with gf... |
| 15:10.37 | nevcairiel | we started a new dkp pool for ulduar, and are giving out dkp for PTR raids already |
| 15:11.01 | nevcairiel | 3 healers are on the top with exactly the same dkp, adn those 3 are nearly 100% |
| 15:11.07 | sb|work | so i need some some public forum post now from someone unrelated to this healing thing |
| 15:11.09 | nevcairiel | one is me .. i need to get rid of the other 2 |
| 15:11.30 | sb|work | hehe |
| 15:11.35 | sb|work | sucks to be GL... |
| 15:11.47 | nevcairiel | I'm an officer too, can't just give it to me either =P |
| 15:11.59 | nevcairiel | I dunno what the drop rate is though |
| 15:12.05 | nevcairiel | Does it only drop from hard mode bosses? |
| 15:12.37 | sb|work | and all people that would be eligible from the current point of view are officers... so it would look like some officer-conspiracy to others |
| 15:12.51 | sb|work | i think i read something like that, yes |
| 15:13.13 | Pneumatus | id be screwed if our guild did that, ive been DKP capped for weeks but finally got to spend some the other night which i wouldnt be able to recover by ulduar :P |
| 15:13.22 | nevcairiel | we have 2 resto druid officers, one being me of course, and actually, i would be fine if anyone of us gets it, because i know we will not run or go inactive |
| 15:13.36 | sb|work | need some people in the forums bitching aroung to clarify the "logical choice whould be XX or YY, noone else..." point :p |
| 15:13.50 | Repo | 10fubar_bagfu: 03phyber 04v1.1.4 * e1a7da1 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.1.4 |
| 15:13.52 | Pneumatus | the logical choice is to give it to your disc priest! |
| 15:14.02 | sb|work | with 50% attendance? no way |
| 15:14.22 | sb|work | night-shifts and stuff... |
| 15:14.25 | Repo | 10fizzle: 03phyber 04v1.3 * d790f3c /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.3 |
| 15:14.57 | nevcairiel | The question is, do i really save all my dkp until i have the first shard? I'm not really that concerned about my gear being "bad" in ulduar, healer gear isnt that important.. |
| 15:15.06 | nevcairiel | but it would suck if gear gets disenchanted |
| 15:15.17 | Pneumatus | my guild forbids hoarding DKP |
| 15:15.27 | sb|work | yes... thats why DKP for such a thing sucks.. |
| 15:15.43 | nevcairiel | I don't think we can reach one solution that would make everyone happy with us |
| 15:15.49 | sb|work | same here :) |
| 15:16.01 | nevcairiel | We gave the illidan blades to a rogue without dkp |
| 15:16.01 | sb|work | esp. because its only 2 people.. |
| 15:16.04 | steev | just do a loot council and tell people who don't like it to suck it |
| 15:16.09 | Pneumatus | our legendary drops tend to be pre-allocated, usually to the highest attender by officers |
| 15:16.12 | nevcairiel | but she was the best, and noone ever questioned that |
| 15:16.23 | Pneumatus | we only ever got 2 offhands |
| 15:16.56 | steev | Pneumatus: go get em now! |
| 15:16.56 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel: /random |
| 15:16.56 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 15:16.56 | sb|work | nevcairiel: point is, i dont think healing performance/.. would be questioned |
| 15:16.57 | Pneumatus | our hunters /roll'd for thoradil |
| 15:17.04 | durcyn | if previous caster legendaries are any indicator, it's going to be a shite mace anyway |
| 15:17.16 | Pneumatus | at least its a mace |
| 15:17.19 | nevcairiel | sb|work: well the thing is, we have 2 people in the guild who are excellent healers and both officers |
| 15:17.20 | Pneumatus | and not a stat gimped stave |
| 15:17.24 | sb|work | the only thing being questioned is the fact that we both are guild/raid-lead + officer (or even better: gf..) |
| 15:17.51 | sb|work | no problem for other offiers to say "yea sure... take it" |
| 15:17.58 | Pneumatus | we only have a GM and 3 officers, none of which are healers :) |
| 15:18.00 | sb|work | but other healers.. meh :) |
| 15:18.12 | nevcairiel | We just went with the DKP thing |
| 15:18.17 | Pneumatus | 3 are tanks and 1 is dps |
| 15:18.34 | nevcairiel | except that most healers will not get any upgrades until someone has the first shard |
| 15:18.39 | nevcairiel | or at least the healers on top of dkp |
| 15:18.51 | sb|work | yup :( |
| 15:18.56 | Pneumatus | hoarding dkp potentially stumps raid progress though |
| 15:19.10 | nevcairiel | not that much if healers do it, really |
| 15:19.19 | sb|work | thats why pre-assign would be better.. but more QQ then |
| 15:19.19 | Xinhuan | you can loot council the legendary, but still charge dkp for it |
| 15:19.20 | nevcairiel | dps and tanks are always more important for progress |
| 15:19.44 | nevcairiel | assuming your healers are topped off from the previous content, of course |
| 15:19.51 | Pneumatus | tell that to felmyst! |
| 15:20.10 | nevcairiel | what about her? |
| 15:20.42 | Pneumatus | made having priests mandatory, which needed to be able to perform to a high level |
| 15:20.58 | durcyn | felmyst was about timing mass dispel, not healing output |
| 15:21.01 | nevcairiel | I meant gear-wise, not skill/attendance =P |
| 15:21.08 | durcyn | and you could prop 'em up with innervate anyway |
| 15:21.31 | Industrial | shrug just do a roll for who gets the legendary, theres one clear winner and then everyone who didnt got it should S T F U. That would settle things if everyone can not act as kids :) |
| 15:21.55 | Fisker- | you stoel my legendary |
| 15:22.15 | Industrial | active enforcement before things can even run out of hand ftw. |
| 15:22.27 | sacarasc | steals Fisker-'s legendary. |
| 15:22.38 | sb|work | Industrial: i dont think its a problem to assign it to 1 out of 2 players.. the problem is to explain why it is only those 2 players :) |
| 15:22.51 | Pneumatus | but yeh, ours will be pre-decided, with a rolloff if neccesary id have thought |
| 15:22.55 | Xinhuan | the problem right now is, is the proc worth giving the weapon to a healer? ;p |
| 15:23.08 | sb|work | i dont care, it's a healer legendary :p |
| 15:23.13 | Industrial | I havetn seen the thing yet :p linky? |
| 15:23.17 | sb|work | and yes, i think so... |
| 15:23.20 | Xinhuan | what if the spell power on the weapon is so high, it also is the BEST boomkin weapon? |
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| 15:23.32 | Industrial | it might also be the best enhancement shaman weapon |
| 15:23.34 | Industrial | and elemental |
| 15:23.36 | Industrial | :) |
| 15:23.50 | Industrial | (right now my enhancement mainhand is Wraht Strike, a spellpower weapon) |
| 15:24.43 | Industrial | we have one warrior with 5 legendary weapons :\ |
| 15:24.52 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: the stats will not be ridicously high, it will have the same item level and just benefit from the legendary stat modifier |
| 15:25.05 | Industrial | both glaives, bow, raggy and the 1h sword. |
| 15:25.09 | Xinhuan | that modifier might be just enough to make it the best even for caster dps |
| 15:25.09 | sacarasc | Bastard warriors and their abilities to use so many legendary weapons. |
| 15:26.11 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: i suppose we won't even see its stats until someone completes it once, and that will be a while |
| 15:26.25 | Industrial | Anyone know what the addon was called that modifies item tooltips and shows percentages etc? mmo-champion uses it in the screenshots. |
| 15:26.26 | nevcairiel | and until then, its a healer weapon |
| 15:26.38 | Stanzilla | my old raidleader (lock) has the ragnaros mace and is farming thunderfury with a warrior |
| 15:26.39 | Stanzilla | :P |
| 15:26.40 | Xinhuan | RatingBuster? ;p |
| 15:26.43 | Industrial | nevcairiel: i missed something. by what information is it a healer weapon? |
| 15:26.44 | Industrial | Xinhuan: ty |
| 15:27.00 | nevcairiel | Industrial: class distribution on the item, all healer classes |
| 15:27.10 | Industrial | hmm |
| 15:27.16 | Industrial | goes resto |
| 15:27.17 | Industrial | :p |
| 15:27.22 | genetik- | wasn't there also a screenshot of the paladin proc? |
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| 15:28.06 | Xinhuan | the only thing we know of the proc is datamined |
| 15:28.15 | Xinhuan | heck, even all the Tier pieces data are data mined |
| 15:28.17 | nevcairiel | One thing thats sad about legendarys though, the next tier of item will be equal already, and you'll start to consider if oyu replace it already =( |
| 15:28.27 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: the tier pieces are on vendors now |
| 15:28.37 | Xinhuan | oh? |
| 15:28.58 | nevcairiel | your usual armor vendor that sold t7 exchanges the t8 tokens |
| 15:29.20 | genetik- | heh.. i still break out thunderfury for shits and giggles every now and then |
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| 15:30.25 | Industrial | dual wield it with raggy :P |
| 15:30.42 | Repo | 10witch-hunt: 03Ammo * r212 WitchHunt.lua: change options order |
| 15:30.43 | Industrial | (still the most awesome looking whaman weapon imo) |
| 15:30.48 | Industrial | too bad its 2h |
| 15:30.53 | Industrial | shaman* |
| 15:32.02 | Repo | 10smooth-quest: 03Ammo * r55 locale/deDE.lua: add deDE |
| 15:32.09 | Repo | 10smooth-quest: 03Ammo * r56 SmoothQuest.toc: and to toc |
| 15:32.33 | nevcairiel | ew ammo does locale |
| 15:32.59 | [Ammo] | I didn't do it |
| 15:33.02 | [Ammo] | I do copy paste real good |
| 15:33.07 | [Ammo] | then the fucking repo complained about utf8 |
| 15:33.10 | nevcairiel | Hm did i fix smoothquest on the PTR or did i just disable it |
| 15:33.10 | [Ammo] | so I striped the umlaut |
| 15:33.13 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:33.20 | nevcairiel | i think i turned it off |
| 15:33.35 | [Ammo] | been on a declining spree on my tickets today |
| 15:33.42 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:33.44 | Repo | 10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03ckknight * r181 Categories/Cast.lua: possible bugfix |
| 15:33.49 | [Ammo] | had waaaaaayy too many |
| 15:35.09 | [Ammo] | yay, back to fitting my tickets in one screen instead of 4 pages :p |
| 15:35.19 | AckisWork | creates more tickets for [Ammo] |
| 15:35.28 | robotusch | Ah, that discussion above remind me of the guild drama that happened when the priests in my old guild banded together and agreed not to overbid each other on items |
| 15:35.29 | [Ammo] | declines more |
| 15:36.06 | [Ammo] | ah there was one from ackis |
| 15:36.08 | [Ammo] | DECLINED |
| 15:36.16 | AckisWork | lol there was? |
| 15:36.17 | [Ammo] | 14 - add auto-refresh for items such as zone check |
| 15:36.19 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:36.23 | [Ammo] | click, bye |
| 15:36.29 | AckisWork | you told me to submit that one :P |
| 15:36.39 | [Ammo] | yeah so I wouldn't forget |
| 15:36.42 | AckisWork | you were like "good idea, make a ticket" !!!! :P |
| 15:36.43 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:36.47 | [Ammo] | I checked it and well I dcided fuck that :) |
| 15:37.16 | AckisWork | hahah |
| 15:40.15 | robotusch | That's the spirit ;D |
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| 15:42.07 | Repo | 10magic-comm: 03dhedbor * r54 MagicComm/MagicComm.lua: Added DKPCLOSE/OnDKPCancel. |
| 15:42.56 | Repo | 10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r46 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Made the default priority selection work. |
| 15:42.59 | Repo | - Close bid dialog and send a pass message when a OnDKPCancel message is received. |
| 15:45.04 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r111 / (5 files in 3 directories): - Added loot distribution options to Bidder. |
| 15:45.07 | Repo | - Many other improvements in Bidder. |
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| 16:01.55 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 073.1 * 1.1.3-10-gce198ee locale/Babelfish.lua: [+1 commit] Add Babelfish.lua for locale parsing |
| 16:02.20 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 073.1-instancemaps * 1.1.3-15-g74a8e23 /: [forced -4 +6] Add InstanceMaps.lua to the babelfish script |
| 16:03.50 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: what are you doing instancemap wise? |
| 16:04.04 | nevcairiel | showing the maps from 3.1 |
| 16:04.12 | Arrowmaster | but anywhere? |
| 16:04.18 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 16:04.34 | Arrowmaster | adding boss loot? |
| 16:04.37 | nevcairiel | I just trick the blizzard code to show them for me, more or less |
| 16:04.39 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:05.21 | nevcairiel | just the northrend isntance that already have nice maps in the game |
| 16:05.25 | nevcairiel | no boss notes, no loot |
| 16:05.43 | digmouse | Arrowmaster: there are instance maps in 3.1 |
| 16:05.53 | Arrowmaster | wonder how i can fix up InstanceMaps to work with what you are doing and standalone |
| 16:06.00 | digmouse | What nev did is just make them available out of instances |
| 16:06.06 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: you can just tell people to turn the module off |
| 16:06.11 | nevcairiel | or call the Mapster function that does it =) |
| 16:06.21 | nevcairiel | Mapster:DisableModule("InstanceMaps") |
| 16:06.29 | digmouse | and nevcairiel: you are working on a Quartz ace3? |
| 16:06.44 | nevcairiel | its not quartz |
| 16:06.54 | digmouse | another new one? |
| 16:07.09 | Xinhuan | its a new one |
| 16:07.14 | digmouse | woot |
| 16:07.17 | Xinhuan | but we have more things to worry about on current existing addons |
| 16:07.23 | Xinhuan | than new addons |
| 16:07.33 | digmouse | I know, just a hunch :P |
| 16:07.42 | nevcairiel | i had something working, then i refactored my template casting bar, and now its broken again =) |
| 16:08.03 | nevcairiel | working as in it showed when i casted, nothing fancy =P |
| 16:08.15 | digmouse | how many mods will break in 3.1 and needs updating? |
| 16:08.22 | nevcairiel | not that many |
| 16:08.24 | nevcairiel | but some |
| 16:08.49 | BWMerlin | you reckon blizz will do maps of all the other instances? |
| 16:08.54 | digmouse | or say, how many addons will not be compatiable with 3.0.3 after that? |
| 16:08.54 | nevcairiel | I dunno |
| 16:08.57 | nevcairiel | i hope at some point |
| 16:09.06 | digmouse | I think they will |
| 16:09.22 | BWMerlin | i would like them to |
| 16:09.58 | BWMerlin | atm i have atlas for instances maps |
| 16:10.05 | digmouse | but, actually, if one would be lost in BRD, giving them maps do nothing XD |
| 16:10.23 | BWMerlin | brd is a nightmare |
| 16:10.31 | selckin | i <3 brd |
| 16:10.37 | BWMerlin | in some ways im glad they didnt make another instance that big |
| 16:10.45 | selckin | they need to make more stuff like that |
| 16:10.54 | selckin | it was always a big adventure going to brd, linear is linear |
| 16:10.58 | BWMerlin | my druid is at the lowest end of the brd lvl limite |
| 16:11.06 | genetik- | i always enjoyed lbrs |
| 16:11.16 | genetik- | linear, but huge |
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| 16:11.18 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: if you want to turn the instancemaps module off, just let your code call LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):GetAddon("Mapster"):DisableModule("InstanceMaps"), and the code will unhook and remove all of its stuff from the functions |
| 16:11.31 | nevcairiel | i just tested if it works properly :D |
| 16:11.43 | digmouse | BWMerlin: Ulduar is even bigger! |
| 16:12.08 | nevcairiel | a full map of BRD would be cool |
| 16:12.24 | digmouse | ... How... many... floors .. will be |
| 16:12.38 | nevcairiel | its not that many floors really |
| 16:12.43 | nevcairiel | they are just all interconnected |
| 16:12.44 | digmouse | I mean zones |
| 16:13.02 | BWMerlin | so will ulduar clear in 1 night be possible? |
| 16:13.10 | digmouse | dont think so |
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| 16:13.12 | nevcairiel | in half a year, maybe |
| 16:13.18 | digmouse | that's way tooooo biug |
| 16:13.20 | digmouse | big |
| 16:13.25 | nevcairiel | Raids clear Naxx in one night, its 15 encounters iirc |
| 16:13.30 | nevcairiel | ulduar is 14 i think |
| 16:13.38 | digmouse | thought way bigger than 2 NAXX |
| 16:13.44 | digmouse | bigger than BT+SWP |
| 16:14.02 | durcyn | naxxramas is 90 minutes if you're paying attention, but it really comes down to trash anyway |
| 16:14.10 | digmouse | You dont have to run so much in NAXX, but in Ulduar you runs a lot |
| 16:14.12 | AckisWork | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1600/ |
| 16:14.53 | digmouse | guess who will face Algalon first? Ensidia? |
| 16:14.58 | BWMerlin | is it at least interesting? |
| 16:15.09 | nevcairiel | digmouse: honestly, i don't care =) |
| 16:15.42 | digmouse | nevcairiel: me too XD, what I expect is I can face Yogg after its first nerf |
| 16:16.05 | nevcairiel | We're usually the #2 guild on my realm, maybe we can steal one of the realm firsts |
| 16:16.37 | nevcairiel | I heard there will be one for yogg saron hard-mode and one for algalon |
| 16:16.46 | nevcairiel | although i can't find the algalon one in wowhead |
| 16:16.55 | digmouse | Algalon has no hard mode |
| 16:16.59 | durcyn | those are the two with titles, apparently |
| 16:17.02 | durcyn | and algalon IS hard-mode |
| 16:17.16 | digmouse | Actually I doubt if it will have a "normal mode" |
| 16:17.17 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 16:17.23 | digmouse | blizz call him "Raid Destroyer" |
| 16:17.53 | nevcairiel | I kinda like that they gave the 10man realm first too |
| 16:18.04 | thul | hmm, when does chuck air in us today? |
| 16:18.20 | durcyn | thul: http://www.epguides.com/grid/ |
| 16:21.35 | thul | thanks durcyn, 08:00 EST.. that means ... late |
| 16:21.40 | thul | maybe I should watch it tomorrow. |
| 16:22.09 | nevcairiel | i usually watch them the day after they aired in US |
| 16:22.12 | nevcairiel | much easier |
| 16:22.42 | durcyn | watching live tv infuriates me anymore, bloody advertisements |
| 16:22.55 | thul | I'm just very happy about a new episode of chuck. |
| 16:23.44 | nevcairiel | you just want to see sarah again |
| 16:25.11 | thul | well, yes, I want to have babies with sarah. Great aryan babies. |
| 16:25.17 | thul | blond and beautifull |
| 16:25.19 | thul | ok, that was way goodwinish :-P |
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| 16:27.33 | Obelixprime | so, I have a question about doing starting zone quests and getting spill-over rep |
| 16:27.46 | Obelixprime | does it happen? |
| 16:27.54 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r103 InventoryOnPar.lua: InventoryOnPar: - |
| 16:27.54 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 16:27.57 | Repo | Fix for item tooltips error. |
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| 16:29.24 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles 04v12.07 * r104 : InventoryOnPar: - |
| 16:29.27 | Repo | Release v12.07 to Curse.com |
| 16:30.03 | thul | makes threesome with Fisker- and sarah walker |
| 16:30.29 | nevcairiel | You would ruin that perfect moment by bringing Fisker-? |
| 16:30.45 | nevcairiel | your sick, thul |
| 16:30.46 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:30.47 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: I'll give you a dollar if you kick him :P |
| 16:31.52 | durcyn | make it two |
| 16:32.08 | BWMerlin | @describe inventory-on-par |
| 16:32.09 | Repo | BWMerlin: http://www.wowace.com/projects/inventory-on-par/. InventoryOnPar. This addon provides a scoring mechanism for your kit and others that you target. Allowing you to get a numerical value to compare your kit to others. This could be really useful on a raid to see the... |
| 16:32.43 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 16:32.45 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), Zhinjio (Author), Elkano (Tester), ananhaid (Translator), andy52005 (Translator), Dessa (Translator), Pettigrow (Translator), Pneumatus (Translator), Primaxina (Translator), Swix (Translator). Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 8/452 |
| 16:33.01 | ulic | "kit"? |
| 16:33.34 | BWMerlin | <3 arl |
| 16:33.47 | BWMerlin | sept for the minimap arrows it likes to spawn |
| 16:33.57 | AckisWork | BWMerlin: look at the options for those :P |
| 16:34.07 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/#w_german-de-de what does that say? |
| 16:34.20 | BWMerlin | i would if i had my proper computer back |
| 16:34.37 | AckisWork | BWMerlin: ahh... well you can control the map stuff a lot more now |
| 16:34.42 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: the same as the english mostly, except that it notes that the german translation isnt complete yet |
| 16:34.53 | BWMerlin | cool |
| 16:34.54 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: *nod* ty |
| 16:35.04 | BWMerlin | look forward to playing around with it |
| 16:35.25 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: since curse got rid of the foreign main pages, I just added those to the standard main page |
| 16:35.36 | BWMerlin | would really like an addon that tells me what patterns will drop/vendor buy in the zone im currently in |
| 16:35.39 | nevcairiel | they did? |
| 16:35.45 | nevcairiel | stupid curse :) |
| 16:36.00 | nevcairiel | You know, it looks kinda crappy though |
| 16:36.19 | AckisWork | BWMerlin: sort by location for ARL |
| 16:36.25 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: my stuff? |
| 16:36.36 | nevcairiel | the page with those translations at the top |
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| 16:37.45 | AckisWork | I had a lot of info on my main page :P |
| 16:38.31 | AckisWork | BWMerlin: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/pages/in-game-documenation/#w_map-integration |
| 16:39.26 | BWMerlin | arl filters are great when your on that toon |
| 16:39.59 | BWMerlin | but what i think i need/want is recipe radar which appears to be updated (wasnt working for warth when i looked at it last) |
| 16:40.38 | AckisWork | yah I'm not really sure what it does over arl... the last thing people said was "mini-map stuff" which I added |
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| 16:41.48 | BWMerlin | i think you did what they asked |
| 16:42.38 | AckisWork | like right now the main improvemenst I could see would be to add a single vendor to the map, make it work w/o TomTom, and better location sorting |
| 16:42.39 | BWMerlin | but in your travels around the worlds of wow you are not always on a toon that could learn a recipe from that zone so you miss it |
| 16:42.56 | AckisWork | ah you mean alts/ |
| 16:43.00 | BWMerlin | yes |
| 16:43.18 | BWMerlin | maybe i should of made that clearer from the begining |
| 16:43.32 | AckisWork | you know, with the tradeskill links, I could probably dick something up to give you a listing of links to your alts so you can scan them as needed from a single toon eh/ |
| 16:43.43 | BWMerlin | i want to be on any of my toons enter in a zone and know what i can buy/drop from that zone |
| 16:43.55 | BWMerlin | ooooo |
| 16:44.03 | Zhinjio | G"morning. |
| 16:44.07 | AckisWork | morning Zhinjio |
| 16:46.13 | Zhinjio | Ackis, how're you? |
| 16:46.23 | AckisWork | goodish, yourself? |
| 16:47.08 | BWMerlin | atm i use recipe book to handle knowen and learnable recipes for all my alts |
| 16:47.35 | BWMerlin | i just need to know if any of them are in a zone i am currently in |
| 16:48.57 | AckisWork | BWMerlin: do me a favour and make 2 tickets for ARL: 1) improve zone handling/searching and 2) add tradeskill saving for alts |
| 16:49.10 | BWMerlin | sure |
| 16:51.16 | BWMerlin | interesting |
| 16:51.44 | BWMerlin | a lot of projects the "see tickets on curseforge" link is gone |
| 16:52.54 | AckisWork | that means they aren't using the ticket tracker iirc |
| 16:52.54 | AckisWork | but wait |
| 16:52.54 | AckisWork | ARL's is gone too |
| 16:53.14 | BWMerlin | i just saw the arl one |
| 16:53.18 | BWMerlin | and used it |
| 16:53.47 | BWMerlin | but recipe book which in the past had the link no longer does even though they use curseforge ticketing |
| 16:54.23 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro * r661 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 16:54.26 | Repo | GatherMate: updates for player facing lag on the PTR, also reverts node remapping in stormpeaks back to original behaviour. nodes will no longer remap |
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| 16:59.37 | NeoTron | :se noai |
| 16:59.37 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
| 16:59.39 | NeoTron | oops |
| 17:00.59 | AckisWork | BWMerlin: passed that bug onto the curse devs |
| 17:01.45 | BWMerlin | seems curse as a whole is going through a little rough patch atm |
| 17:02.34 | AckisWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.44 | AckisWork | ie: if you had tickets disabled it'd show the link |
| 17:02.56 | AckisWork | this may be a result of them fixing that bug |
| 17:03.12 | AckisWork | a lot on their plates right now however |
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| 17:04.57 | ckknight | BWMerlin: not to my knowledge |
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| 17:07.49 | PProvost | Kaelten: here's an interesting idea for Ace3 |
| 17:08.07 | PProvost | Have a post commit that syncs it to readonly versions of the other repo types |
| 17:08.14 | PProvost | E.g. git, hg, etc |
| 17:08.28 | nevcairiel | The advantage being? |
| 17:08.31 | PProvost | So people can use the native repo linking systems (externals, modules, whatever) to link to them |
| 17:09.28 | Primer | Is there any new badge gear coming out in 3.1? |
| 17:09.41 | Primer | I mean current badges |
| 17:09.45 | PProvost | I heard yes for Valor and the new ones. Not sure about Heroism |
| 17:10.07 | nevcairiel | I don't think i've seen new valor loot either |
| 17:10.14 | durcyn | i don't see much happening with valor beyond tokens for 10m t8 |
| 17:10.19 | Primer | I'm tempted to sell a 60 badge bracer now while the selling's good |
| 17:10.30 | PProvost | The selling is good? |
| 17:10.31 | nevcairiel | Primer: do it |
| 17:10.42 | Primer | well, I can sell them for 1.5k on my realm |
| 17:10.43 | durcyn | also, why would you want native linking cruft, PProvost? |
| 17:10.44 | selckin | yeah i sold 4 of those aswel |
| 17:10.57 | selckin | they go 2.5~3k on mine |
| 17:11.02 | PProvost | durcyn: I like my local dev folder to mimic the one created by the packager |
| 17:11.03 | Primer | and I have 2 80s each with over 60 badges |
| 17:11.06 | PProvost | Preference |
| 17:11.09 | Primer | selckin: daaaaamn |
| 17:11.15 | Primer | how the fuck |
| 17:11.20 | Primer | low population? |
| 17:11.27 | selckin | not really |
| 17:11.46 | Primer | I figured with high population there'd be more puggable 25 man raids |
| 17:12.06 | selckin | tons of people pugging it |
| 17:12.21 | Primer | I guess people are just rich then |
| 17:12.27 | selckin | just too many ppl with too much money |
| 17:12.34 | Primer | the price has steadily been declining on my realm |
| 17:12.37 | selckin | i know 3 people in my guild that have maxed the gold cap, one on 2 chars even |
| 17:12.45 | Primer | wow |
| 17:12.50 | Primer | what is the gold cap btw? |
| 17:12.59 | selckin | tries to find the screenshot |
| 17:13.00 | Fisker- | ~214k |
| 17:13.15 | Primer | how the hell do you do that |
| 17:13.24 | Primer | 3 people playing 24/7? |
| 17:13.34 | selckin | 6h a day or so |
| 17:13.36 | durcyn | it's easy if you game the auction house constantly |
| 17:13.49 | Primer | yeah, I can't do that |
| 17:13.54 | selckin | even i had 50k prewrath, (spend it all in the first month tho) |
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| 17:14.57 | Primer | most I ever had was like 6k |
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| 17:15.06 | Primer | 10k across 2 level 70 toons |
| 17:15.19 | BWMerlin | AckisWork: i made those two tickets, i hope what i wrote was clear enough and along the lines of what you were thinking |
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| 17:15.30 | AckisWork | ty |
| 17:15.38 | selckin | yeah, i play less now, and have like 2k :p |
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| 17:16.11 | Primer | well, I have about 5k across my 2 80s, but I'm leveling a DK, he's at 69 |
| 17:17.11 | Industrial | im happy with 700g on my main |
| 17:17.12 | Industrial | :p |
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| 17:17.55 | Primer | I don't plan on buying flying til he's 77 though |
| 17:17.55 | selckin | thats like 3 days of wiping. |
| 17:17.55 | selckin | max |
| 17:17.55 | Primer | and I'll want to have epic, since once you go epic, there's no going back |
| 17:18.03 | BWMerlin | if you implement those two tickets, it wont be long before adding tooltips about toonA can learn this pattern etc like recipe book does will make sense |
| 17:18.24 | BWMerlin | then you will have more or less combined what recipe book and recipe radar does into ARL |
| 17:18.31 | BWMerlin | which might be more then you want to take on |
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| 17:24.21 | NeoTron | we have a l80 in the guild, casual player, that doesn't have cold weather flying |
| 17:25.22 | nevcairiel | If you level properly you will hit 80 in sholazar |
| 17:25.26 | nevcairiel | doable without flying |
| 17:25.37 | NeoTron | it's doable fine |
| 17:25.45 | NeoTron | but I don't understand how you can't afford it |
| 17:27.28 | Fisker- | he used all of his money on drugs |
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| 17:30.22 | dodga | Or hookers! |
| 17:32.27 | Arrowmaster | both! |
| 17:32.36 | Arrowmaster | snorting blow off a hookers ass |
| 17:33.42 | dodga | Kinky! |
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| 17:36.58 | BWMerlin | anyone know why searching curseforge for acp or addon control panel doesnt turn up any results? |
| 17:37.28 | ckknight | cause it's on wowace? |
| 17:37.29 | Arrowmaster | a long long time ago our MT said he would snort crack off a hookers ass if our guild ever killed a green dragon, we got emeriss one night but apparently his wife didnt approve of him paying off on that bet |
| 17:38.41 | Axodious | lol |
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| 17:39.50 | BWMerlin | ckknight: what do you mean? |
| 17:40.20 | Gnarfoz | www.wowace.com != www.curseforge.net |
| 17:40.21 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/projects/?search=addon+control+panel |
| 17:40.26 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: they're both .com |
| 17:40.31 | Gnarfoz | whatever |
| 17:40.33 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 17:40.53 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03vangual 07master * 5aba5cb Modules/CastBarLatency/CastBarLatency.lua: [+1 commit] - Fixed icon placement in the latency module. Removed a magic number, added more comments and made the code more readable. |
| 17:41.02 | BWMerlin | Gnarfoz: has my point arnt they more or less one in the same? |
| 17:41.28 | Gnarfoz | BWMerlin: you failed to understand what I said if you think that :p |
| 17:41.37 | Gnarfoz | I would have said ==, not !=, if I had meant what you understood ;) |
| 17:41.41 | ckknight | â |
| 17:41.45 | Gnarfoz | thanks ckk |
| 17:41.45 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 17:42.02 | ckknight | learn to love unicode |
| 17:42.12 | ckknight | you get all sorts of fun symbols |
| 17:42.14 | ckknight | e.g. |
| 17:42.18 | ckknight | ( º Y º ) |
| 17:42.24 | ckknight | ...it's an owl |
| 17:42.31 | ckknight | also, perky |
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| 17:44.42 | Funkeh` | I'm not a fussy guy |
| 17:46.11 | Stanzilla | you are just gay |
| 17:46.12 | Stanzilla | :O |
| 17:46.27 | Funkeh` | thanks stan |
| 17:46.37 | Funkeh` | it's good to know no matter what I always got my bro to back me up |
| 17:47.50 | Funkeh` | Is there an eta on d3 yet |
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| 17:48.41 | Repo | 10bagslots: 03phyber 04v1.3 * 42cfec9 /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tagging as v1.3 |
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| 17:54.15 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: "soon" |
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| 18:00.03 | Primer | wow, QH is all fucked up |
| 18:00.11 | Primer | it's showing quests from one of my alts |
| 18:01.11 | [SW]Dodge | ckknight: ping |
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| 18:03.19 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r469 ui/base.lua: Don't unregister CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED |
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| 18:12.13 | Repo | 10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r168 / (6 files in 4 directories): Display-agnostic modes, first pass. |
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| 18:19.54 | Funkeh` | NeoTron, http://www.maxfreak.com/diablo3/archives/diablo-3-out-on-09-09-09/ |
| 18:22.02 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: talk about giving them a lot of credit, forming crash messages to tell the future release date of a game |
| 18:22.05 | NeoTron | lol? |
| 18:23.04 | Axodious | wheres that device to punch people through the internet when you need it |
| 18:23.05 | Axodious | >_< |
| 18:28.09 | kenlyric | it's not like they couldn't have just taken diablo 3 09/09/09 and turned it into hex and then just said they got it from a crash in the game. |
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| 18:31.21 | NeoTron | kenlyric: orly? |
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| 18:32.22 | nevcairiel | I wouldn't be surprised if blizz really planted that there |
| 18:32.32 | nevcairiel | but i don't even believe for a second that it will be the actual release |
| 18:34.35 | smcn | blogs are going to kill newspapers |
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| 18:35.39 | durcyn | cars are going to kill horses |
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| 18:49.12 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03TAP3AH 06tap3ah * r24 / (21 files in 11 directories): mainline content updated to r20090323173703 |
| 18:50.16 | kenlyric | blogs kill newspapers kill themselves |
| 18:50.19 | kenlyric | so it all works in the end |
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| 19:08.21 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:08.44 | waallen | hi |
| 19:08.46 | ckknight | the donation buttons that you can set up on wowace and curseforge will soon show up on Curse.com. The devs are working on syndicating it over. |
| 19:09.05 | ckknight | and by soon, I mean Soon(TM) |
| 19:10.12 | Primer | as in, "I wrote this cool addon using my own time and I want you to give me money"? |
| 19:10.44 | Fisker- | robotusch |
| 19:10.46 | Fisker- | spy tiems |
| 19:10.48 | Fisker- | msn nao |
| 19:10.52 | Tinyboom | as in: you can support my work if you want :p |
| 19:11.09 | Primer | heh, I don't update my addon often enough to justify that :) |
| 19:11.10 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 19:11.28 | Tinyboom | hehe |
| 19:11.45 | Primer | in fact, I completely forgot about the open tickets I have... |
| 19:12.45 | Wizardling | G'day ckknight |
| 19:12.51 | ckknight | howdy, Wizardling |
| 19:13.11 | ckknight | Primer: you can specify a PayPal or a Pledgie button currently |
| 19:13.20 | Wizardling | hey - I stopped updating Pitbull 4 cause it no longer recognised my layouts |
| 19:13.26 | ckknight | note: if you have another donation system you'd like us to support, please tell us |
| 19:13.29 | Wizardling | is this still the case? |
| 19:13.40 | ckknight | Wizardling: you mean it didn't import your PitBull 3 layouts? |
| 19:13.47 | Wizardling | I admit I'm quite lazy and just wanted to get on and play |
| 19:14.19 | Wizardling | I have r20090305062947 |
| 19:14.28 | Neebler | support the well wishs and general compliments donation system. here, I'll give an example: |
| 19:14.31 | sb|work | uhm nevcairiel - does sRaidFrames draw black ~10px borders around my screen? :p |
| 19:14.41 | sb|work | some addon does that... since today, and i have no idea which one :p |
| 19:14.43 | nevcairiel | sb|work: only yours |
| 19:14.46 | sb|work | hmm :) |
| 19:15.06 | Wizardling | no - earlier PB4 layouts |
| 19:15.07 | Neebler | I appreciate you making such fine and dandy addons ckknight, thank you for all the time and effort |
| 19:15.14 | Wizardling | I reverted to that version |
| 19:15.55 | ckknight | Wizardling: I don't remember breaking it. |
| 19:15.58 | sb|work | whats that command to show the current frame under my cursor? |
| 19:16.00 | ckknight | Neebler: good stuff. |
| 19:16.05 | Wizardling | still loves Pitbull |
| 19:16.11 | Wizardling | best Unit frames going |
| 19:16.30 | Wizardling | well I'll try the latest version |
| 19:16.40 | selckin | can i show buffs on hostile units and debuffs and friendly with the same layout in pitbull? |
| 19:16.43 | ckknight | Neebler: would you mind adding it to the ticket system? |
| 19:16.48 | selckin | (and only those) |
| 19:16.58 | Neebler | wizardling: what module or part of your old PB4 layout broke? |
| 19:17.18 | Wizardling | all my unit frames were in their default positions |
| 19:17.25 | Wizardling | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:17.28 | selckin | i was playing with the filters, but didn't quite understand how they are supposed to work |
| 19:17.29 | waallen | it's not possible to edit the font size of auratexts in PB4 yet, right? |
| 19:17.43 | Neebler | oh, you need to select a unit and set a layout for them |
| 19:17.50 | ckknight | waallen: I don't believe so |
| 19:18.04 | Neebler | that happened to me when I updated about a month ago, but its easily fixed by re assigning your layouts |
| 19:18.06 | ckknight | Wizardling: so move em |
| 19:18.13 | waallen | I turned them off anyway, I am quite used to them not being showed now |
| 19:18.16 | Wizardling | I'm lazy |
| 19:18.20 | ckknight | it's click and drag |
| 19:18.25 | Wizardling | sticking with r20090305062947 was easier :-D |
| 19:18.33 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 19:18.38 | ckknight | just don't expect support for that version |
| 19:18.44 | Neebler | if you're so lazy, then you shouldnt be using such a configurable addon as pitbull |
| 19:18.49 | ckknight | I agree |
| 19:18.49 | Neebler | I loooove configuration |
| 19:18.50 | Wizardling | plus I'm anal about having my unit frames and other UI elements positioned just so |
| 19:18.56 | Wizardling | loves align |
| 19:19.04 | ckknight | I need to write a competing addong to align... |
| 19:19.09 | ckknight | Chickenwire, ooh yea |
| 19:19.17 | ckknight | you know you want it. |
| 19:19.20 | ckknight | Ace3'd |
| 19:19.21 | ckknight | so it's better. |
| 19:19.24 | ckknight | ;-) |
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| 19:20.09 | Wizardling | it would be awesome if addons could recognise your ace version of aign's grid and snap to |
| 19:20.23 | Wizardling | that's likely not possible, I suppose |
| 19:21.39 | Fisker- | my expections to pitbull failed ckknight |
| 19:22.21 | ckknight | Wizardling: yea, that'd be pretty complex... |
| 19:22.37 | ckknight | theoretically possible |
| 19:22.39 | ckknight | but still complex. |
| 19:22.42 | Wizardling | Hmmm... how about a grid in PB4? |
| 19:22.57 | Wizardling | that would be lessawesome |
| 19:23.03 | Wizardling | but very handy |
| 19:23.36 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r470 Locales/koKR.lua: Update koKR, thanks chkid |
| 19:24.00 | Wizardling | being able to go '/pitbull align 128' and then snap to a grid that size would be a UI nut's dream :-D |
| 19:25.04 | Wizardling | I hoping once 3.1 chaos dies down that I'll have a UI worth submitting to WoWInsider's GUI centre |
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| 19:27.45 | Wizardling | Neebler - the trouble with loving configuration is you put off a lot of non-geeks with too-dense settings panels. |
| 19:28.03 | Wizardling | OTOH it is great being able to tweak every little thing |
| 19:28.14 | ckknight | Wizardling: that's why PitBull4's configuration is a lot saner |
| 19:28.21 | Wizardling | it is much better :-) |
| 19:28.23 | ckknight | PB3's is bad |
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| 19:28.56 | Wizardling | LOL - I had to go have a lie down after trying to configure PB3 the first time |
| 19:29.04 | Wizardling | but I got there in the end |
| 19:32.08 | pastamancer | speaking of 3.1, has anyone tried out grid on the PTR? |
| 19:32.29 | nevcairiel | Not i, but i haven't had any issues with other unitframe or raidframe mods |
| 19:32.32 | Vangual | yea |
| 19:32.34 | nevcairiel | short of UnitBuff |
| 19:32.45 | Kaelten | question what was Ace3 showing up as int he client |
| 19:33.02 | nevcairiel | tournament realm spy |
| 19:33.05 | nevcairiel | if you mean that ^ |
| 19:33.16 | Kaelten | yeah |
| 19:33.17 | Kaelten | that's it |
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| 19:35.31 | Repo | 10assessment: 03durcyn * r421 / (5 files in 3 directories): Fix up libs and externals/pkgmeta |
| 19:36.52 | Repo | 10assessment: 03durcyn 04r421-beta * r422 : tagging as r421-beta |
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| 19:43.55 | Repo | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/curse-client-3-0-release-new-mac-beta/ |
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| 19:48.02 | Gnarfoz | @project assessment |
| 19:48.03 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/assessment/. Assessment. Game: WoW. Phanx (Manager/Author), durcyn (Author), Roartindon (Author). Updated: 10 minutes ago |
| 19:48.22 | Gnarfoz | did you just tag a broken addon oO |
| 19:48.44 | durcyn | no |
| 19:49.05 | durcyn | it's un-broken, just needs a bit more cleaning up |
| 19:49.59 | Gnarfoz | ah, no alpha packages |
| 19:50.04 | Gnarfoz | mislead by that |
| 19:50.21 | durcyn | phanx committed a bunch of fixes last weekish |
| 19:53.14 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1035 Tracker.lua: |
| 19:53.18 | Repo | - Possible fallback for guardian detection if their combat log flags are screwy. |
| 19:54.06 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, you probably want to check out the donate errors in aceconsole in ace2 |
| 19:54.26 | Xinhuan | rabbit's commit didn't cover aceconsole i think |
| 19:54.29 | Arrowmaster | actually vhaarr broke it and i dont care enough right now |
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| 19:54.46 | Arrowmaster | no its the upgrade path thats broken i think |
| 19:54.58 | Xinhuan | oh that complicates things a bit... |
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| 19:55.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah and i dont really give a damn |
| 19:55.24 | Xinhuan | because removing a function breaks backwards compat... |
| 19:55.39 | Kaelten | yeah, should have just emptied the function probably |
| 19:55.43 | Arrowmaster | it can remain broken until somebody else fixes it or the ui policy changes |
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| 20:03.44 | Gnarfoz | I just love Arrowmaster's "fuck everyone" stance on everyting :D |
| 20:04.31 | Arrowmaster | you remember when aim buddy icons that looked like buttons in the aim interface were popular? |
| 20:04.44 | Arrowmaster | i have one of a middle finger with the words "Fuck Off" under it |
| 20:05.22 | Gnarfoz | I don't remember ever using AOL's AIM software, ever. :p |
| 20:05.51 | NivFreak | I think I used it once to create an account long ago |
| 20:07.14 | Repo | 10ace2: 03Kaelten * r1096 AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: |
| 20:07.17 | Repo | Reverting the broken removal of the donation frame. Needs to be reimplemented in a way that doesn't break current install base. |
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| 20:08.19 | Natherul | hrmm i got a new version of the curse client today and it updated all my addons and they started to mess with me, anywhere i can post errors so i can get some help to figure out whats wrong? |
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| 20:09.25 | Kaelten | Natherul: if it's client errors post them on curseforge |
| 20:09.33 | Kaelten | if it's addon errors post them to the addon's author |
| 20:10.12 | Xinhuan | what kind of errors? |
| 20:10.43 | Natherul | well i dont know what addon it is that bugging, and its the last update from the client that made it like this (old one updated addons fine) but it is an addon error |
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| 20:10.55 | Xinhuan | you didn't quite say if its one specific addon, curse client error, windows error, wow error or what ;p |
| 20:11.24 | Xinhuan | so what exactly is the error? :) |
| 20:11.24 | Natherul | its probably an addon error but quite massive in text so might be more then 1 addon messing |
| 20:11.31 | Natherul | where can i post it? |
| 20:11.41 | Xinhuan | http://paste.wowace.com |
| 20:13.42 | Natherul | http://paste.wowace.com/376/ i think |
| 20:13.50 | ckknight | this is a fine how do you do: " |
| 20:13.50 | ckknight | mmm well i just tried to kill myself again" |
| 20:13.57 | Natherul | never used that site before |
| 20:13.59 | ckknight | kids these days. |
| 20:14.17 | nevcairiel | And i though Aloft died a long time ago |
| 20:14.27 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: it seems active |
| 20:14.37 | Xinhuan | hmm babble |
| 20:14.42 | nevcairiel | it still uses babble-2.2 <-< |
| 20:14.43 | ckknight | 2.2 babble, no less |
| 20:14.49 | Xinhuan | babble 2,2 lol |
| 20:14.56 | Stanzilla | aloft is updated on WoWI |
| 20:14.57 | NivFreak | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10864-AloftBeta.html |
| 20:15.15 | nevcairiel | some unauthorized fan update, clearly |
| 20:15.22 | Natherul | so aloft is causing all these issues? |
| 20:15.40 | Xinhuan | unsure, but its part of te problem |
| 20:15.52 | Xinhuan | we suspect aloft is your only addon using BabbleClass-2.2 library |
| 20:15.57 | Natherul | lemmie update to that version you linked me then and we'll see |
| 20:16.19 | nevcairiel | He probably had the fixed version from WoWI and the CC got the curse version, which is damn old |
| 20:16.44 | nevcairiel | thats why fan updates are bad, hmkay |
| 20:16.59 | NivFreak | it's worse when people don't close dead projects |
| 20:17.00 | NivFreak | :) |
| 20:17.04 | NivFreak | *cough* |
| 20:17.07 | sb|work | nevcairiel: okay, its not sRaidFrames :/ |
| 20:17.32 | nevcairiel | sb|work: of course not |
| 20:17.40 | sb|work | http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7468/wowscrnshot032309210609.jpg <-- look at the border around the screen - only shows up when in combat, and fades when leaving combat |
| 20:17.58 | sb|work | and no, its not omen, not skada, not dockingbar :p |
| 20:18.06 | sb|work | err docking station |
| 20:18.06 | nevcairiel | looks kinda cool |
| 20:18.08 | sb|work | :/ |
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| 20:18.22 | Torhal | Actually, it isn't unauthorized. Roartindon wrote this on October 17th: Just wanted to say thankyou to acapela for keeping the project alive. |
| 20:18.29 | nevcairiel | seriously, i like it |
| 20:18.48 | Groktar | hates that style of buff bars with a passion |
| 20:18.50 | Stanzilla | bad taste nev, bad taste :p |
| 20:19.05 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 20:22.11 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: btw, being grumpy about people picking up dead LGPL addons, and maintaining them is silly |
| 20:22.27 | AckisWork | NivFreak: he's grumpy about everything |
| 20:22.35 | Groktar | i think nevcairiel would be happier if the guy would rename it |
| 20:22.43 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 20:22.48 | NivFreak | but why bother? |
| 20:22.49 | Arrowmaster | or use the wowace repo |
| 20:22.51 | NivFreak | the original Aloft is dead |
| 20:23.02 | NivFreak | wowace has it marked as abandon right? |
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| 20:23.08 | nevcairiel | doesnt GPL even require that you rename it when you fork it? |
| 20:23.15 | Arrowmaster | it can |
| 20:23.15 | NivFreak | don't think so |
| 20:23.25 | Arrowmaster | if the original author wants you to i think |
| 20:24.08 | NeoTron | isn't Arrowmaster the one that's grumpy about everything? I'm confused! |
| 20:24.09 | NivFreak | so it looks like aloft will be marked abandon on april 2nd |
| 20:24.12 | NivFreak | on wowace |
| 20:24.20 | AckisWork | NeoTron: nev, rabbit, arrow, tekkub are always grumpy |
| 20:24.22 | NivFreak | it's automatic after 6 months right? |
| 20:24.56 | Natherul | thanks for solving that issue all, i think its solved anyways but i also just noticed i have another error, anyone care to disect this one: http://paste.wowace.com/378/ ? |
| 20:25.12 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 20:25.17 | NivFreak | actually it's intersting |
| 20:25.20 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/bidui.jpg <-- so I've hacked acegui widgets to get that |
| 20:25.22 | ramoz | Natherul: btw, you need to ignore aloft in CC before you update again |
| 20:25.23 | NivFreak | the wowace project says it's all right reserved |
| 20:25.42 | Arrowmaster | bad hook probably |
| 20:25.45 | Natherul | yeah i know ramoz |
| 20:25.46 | durcyn | it defaulted to that on the oldsvn import, niv |
| 20:25.51 | NeoTron | wasn't THAT hard but slightly annoying. main issue I have is with the flow layout I can't make the list window "fill" available space if I want buttons at the bottom |
| 20:25.53 | NivFreak | durcyn: ah |
| 20:25.59 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: because it was never set |
| 20:26.41 | NivFreak | right |
| 20:26.42 | NivFreak | so yea |
| 20:26.48 | NivFreak | ok, this aloft update is scetchy then |
| 20:26.58 | NivFreak | the original author did not gpl the code |
| 20:26.59 | VonhintenHOME` | So what's the latest on the donation thing? blizz recanted yet? |
| 20:27.19 | NivFreak | the original author actually specificed no license |
| 20:27.41 | Arrowmaster | so the update isnt legal but the author doesnt care |
| 20:28.04 | NivFreak | likely |
| 20:28.27 | NivFreak | what is the current assumption on source code provide without license to the public? |
| 20:28.38 | NivFreak | all rights reserved? or is that just a curse choice? |
| 20:29.05 | AckisWork | NivFreak: no license == all rights reserved |
| 20:29.29 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: thats a global concept, you don't license it, its yours, and yours alone |
| 20:30.03 | Natherul | thanks for solving that issue all, i think its solved anyways but i also just noticed i have another error, anyone care to disect this one: http://paste.wowace.com/378/ ? |
| 20:30.12 | nevcairiel | well even with a license its still yours, except that the license outlines what other people may do with it |
| 20:31.43 | NivFreak | but posting it publicly, you are implying license for use |
| 20:32.03 | NivFreak | but I'd assume redistribution and relicensing is far beyond that ;) |
| 20:32.13 | NivFreak | the fact that the new author LGPL'd the code is scary |
| 20:32.19 | NivFreak | legally |
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| 20:34.41 | AckisWork | what's an algorithm called that allows you given x number of resources, y different types of resources, z types of items to maximize the number of items created or to use up the most resources? |
| 20:35.13 | ckknight | The knapsack problem? |
| 20:35.15 | nevcairiel | i know that as simplex |
| 20:35.40 | ckknight | actually, no, knapsack is a bit different |
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| 20:38.02 | krka | optimization problem! |
| 20:41.19 | Xinhuan | there's no specific name to such an algorithm ackis |
| 20:41.20 | Zhinjio | is there a way to prevent some of the server side settings from being saved? |
| 20:41.30 | Zhinjio | I don't want to mess up my wife's keybindings, for example |
| 20:41.35 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 20:41.50 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162847363&sid=1&pageNo=2#34 |
| 20:42.26 | Xinhuan | you will, however, in addition to using those cvars, need to use an addon such as Action Bar Saver or similar addon |
| 20:42.36 | Xinhuan | to save/load which spells are on which actionID |
| 20:42.41 | Zhinjio | yaeh, I use SAS |
| 20:42.44 | Zhinjio | so thats cool |
| 20:42.51 | Zhinjio | thanks |
| 20:42.52 | Xinhuan | SAS sucks, it errors and doesn't restore mounts |
| 20:42.58 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: yah just wanted a place to look... basically I was after something in wow terms what's the best thing to craft with my supplies to make the most/use the most/etc |
| 20:43.13 | Zhinjio | hmm, what do you recommend in its place? |
| 20:43.42 | Xinhuan | its under a category called maximization problems, there's no specific name for an algoritm because you can use like 20 different algorithms to solve it |
| 20:43.51 | Xinhuan | including ant colony, heuristics, branch and bound, etc etc |
| 20:43.56 | AckisWork | aye |
| 20:44.06 | AckisWork | it's just been 6 years since I studied algorithms |
| 20:44.11 | Xinhuan | or even just the plain old greedy method |
| 20:44.35 | AckisWork | now if I could implement it in excel... :P |
| 20:44.38 | nevcairiel | I would recommend a simplex algorithm, for those maximization problems its the easiest |
| 20:44.46 | nevcairiel | (imho) |
| 20:44.48 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8075-ActionBarSaver.html |
| 20:45.21 | NivFreak | I love that addon |
| 20:45.24 | VonhintenHOME` | least cost versus chance of success. a 100% craft that takes 5 leather is better than a 50% craft that takes 3 leather |
| 20:45.37 | NivFreak | I fear it's not updated for 3.1 |
| 20:45.48 | nevcairiel | does it have to, NivFreak? |
| 20:45.56 | NivFreak | I don't know |
| 20:46.01 | nevcairiel | It'll still work the same as on 3.0 |
| 20:46.20 | NivFreak | nothing changed with dual specs being implemented? |
| 20:46.26 | nevcairiel | not on our side. |
| 20:46.28 | NivFreak | cool |
| 20:46.31 | NivFreak | that's good to know |
| 20:46.39 | nevcairiel | the game simply changes what spells are in the actions when you change spec |
| 20:46.43 | nevcairiel | the API didnt change a bit |
| 20:46.46 | NivFreak | perfect |
| 20:47.23 | VonhintenHOME` | Ackis, in general, there are already guides out there for all trade skills... their only down sides are that they don't take into account having items like Medium Hides, and they weight cost of extraneous mats too highly against easy of acquiring gathered materials |
| 20:47.46 | VonhintenHOME` | The guides could be updated to do that |
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| 20:48.32 | AckisWork | VonhintenHOME`: I was just using it as an example, I was thinking of adding that functionality into my wow tcg crafting spreadsheet |
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| 20:52.57 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r49 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fixed encounter DB for Malygos |
| 20:54.02 | Xinhuan | i think you are thinking too deeply ackis ;p |
| 20:57.10 | AckisWork | yes my head does hurt |
| 20:57.34 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r85 / (7 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 20:57.34 | Stanzilla | vacuum can hurt? *hides* |
| 20:57.36 | Repo | When collapsing bliz questlog header keep the quests in tomQuest2 questlog |
| 20:57.39 | Repo | enhance questsTracker module: |
| 20:57.42 | Repo | 1) add autotrack by zone |
| 20:57.45 | Repo | 2) add auto collapse/expand quests tracker zone on zone change |
| 20:58.01 | AckisWork | ~lart Stanzilla |
| 20:58.01 | purl | hooks into a hydrant and hoses Stanzilla down |
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| 21:11.55 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r86 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:11.58 | Repo | fix bugs in tracker and tooltip in case the quest is hidden by collapsing in the bliz questlog |
| 21:13.41 | Repo | 10libtagcompiler-2-0: 03Phanx * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Add notes field to TOC |
| 21:13.44 | Repo | - Remove annoying and useless lib.xml file |
| 21:15.55 | Repo | 10assessment: 03Phanx * r423 / (4 files in 3 directories): |
| 21:15.59 | Repo | - Remove debug spam from Damage and Healing Modules/Damage.lua |
| 21:16.01 | Repo | - Add a few new debug messages to Damage for pet tracking (needs testing) |
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| 21:16.53 | vhaarr | Kaelten: I broke aceaddon2 on purpose and I poked you for a forced repackaging of the wowace addons to update libs, seeing as this is a policy change I wanted to protect inactive authors/addons |
| 21:17.11 | vhaarr | Kaelten: but someone said they were going to oppose Blizz on the policy and so didn't want to change it |
| 21:17.26 | nevcairiel | You could've left an empty function stub that wouldn't error like that |
| 21:17.34 | nevcairiel | but do nothing either =) |
| 21:18.10 | vhaarr | I wanted to force authors into action, but yes |
| 21:18.39 | nevcairiel | I'm not even sure there is a way to repackage all addons that use it |
| 21:19.10 | vhaarr | there must be a way to select that from the SQL, considering we have the "relationship" box for projects |
| 21:20.05 | vhaarr | but seeing as someone is opposing the policy I won't do anything until that's settled now |
| 21:21.02 | AckisWork | who's opposing? :D |
| 21:21.04 | nevcairiel | Once the dust settles, curse (and wowace) will have no choice to accept it, or lose their official fansite status, imho anyway |
| 21:21.11 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 21:22.00 | Repo | 10blizzmove: 03yess * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): added: option to reset the frames |
| 21:22.03 | ckknight | if I have 3 apples and you want 5 apples and Johnny wants e^(Ï * i) apples, how many apples do I have left over? |
| 21:22.03 | Repo | fixed an error with SetPoint() maybe |
| 21:22.19 | vhaarr | 3 |
| 21:25.42 | Zyndrome | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs , hehe some SSD fun |
| 21:26.15 | NeoTron | I wonder how long Blizzard plans to be quiet on the subject |
| 21:26.36 | NivFreak | probably until their law firm gets back to them |
| 21:29.12 | NeoTron | ckknight: speaking of donation links - added them on wowace thinking they would show on curse.. but not the case? |
| 21:29.24 | ckknight | I made an announcement a little while ago |
| 21:29.42 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.12 | NeoTron | ok thanks |
| 21:30.22 | Tristanian | moving your donation buttons already neo ? |
| 21:30.24 | Tristanian | :p |
| 21:30.31 | NeoTron | Tristanian: never had any before figured why not |
| 21:30.39 | Tristanian | ah |
| 21:30.41 | NeoTron | don't expect anything from it but hey can't hurt :) |
| 21:30.52 | Tristanian | well true |
| 21:32.37 | ckknight | this is mostly a PR thing for us. Since Blizz is being all dickish, we want it to be easier to show donation buttons for addons on curse (and potentially later in the curse client) to make authors and users happier with us |
| 21:32.45 | ckknight | win-win, though, if you ask me |
| 21:33.13 | VonhintenHOME` | I love the user backlash at the developers |
| 21:33.18 | Tristanian | I'd reckon the client link would prolly have the most impact |
| 21:33.59 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: yea, the entitled pricks. |
| 21:34.25 | ckknight | Tristanian: still, curse.com is first |
| 21:34.33 | Tristanian | Understandable |
| 21:34.43 | VonhintenHOME` | Blizzard sticks it to developers. Developers angry decide to stop supporting their addon. Users get angry at developers and threaten to take over their code. Blizzard sits silently by. |
| 21:35.08 | drweird | if curse allowed me to setup donation distributions via paypal, id easily select x-perl, cartographer, bt4 for automatic donation each month. |
| 21:35.13 | Tristanian | Well in all honesty, you would expect them to do otherwise ? |
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| 21:36.55 | ckknight | drweird: well, you know we're going to have the curse premium and author rewards program soon, right? |
| 21:36.59 | NivFreak | addon donations for cartographer would be interesting |
| 21:37.05 | NivFreak | do you split the pool? :) |
| 21:37.09 | ckknight | NivFreak: I actually don't get very much. |
| 21:37.27 | NivFreak | but aren't you less active than some other on cartographer now days? |
| 21:37.36 | NivFreak | others* |
| 21:37.40 | Tristanian | Lies ck, come on, give us some figures :p |
| 21:37.44 | AckisWork | ckknight: what's better, paypal or pledgie? |
| 21:37.50 | ckknight | your choice |
| 21:37.58 | ckknight | Tristanian: $20/month total |
| 21:38.01 | ckknight | for all my addons |
| 21:38.11 | Tristanian | :o |
| 21:38.28 | VonhintenHOME` | Dude, you're rich |
| 21:38.35 | Tristanian | Was about to say that |
| 21:39.41 | drweird | ckknight: yeah, i havent been following closely how the premium works out (I had assumed without ever researching it would jsut fund Curse.com). But really, there are a select few addons that without them (or a viable replacement), the game would just be unbearable.. and while it may not be much, putting in $25/mo when i know its helping out a LUA dev who hears stupid shit nearly 24x7 by end users complaining.. as if it was their job to write ... |
| 21:39.47 | drweird | ... addons.. i wouldnt mind |
| 21:39.51 | krka | drweird: No reason to yell the name of the language. ;-) |
| 21:40.18 | VonhintenHOME` | ssd actually getting cheap enough to use now? |
| 21:40.38 | ckknight | drweird: a big chunk should go to the authors. |
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| 21:40.48 | FtH|Daemona | yeah VonhintenHOME` ocz vertex and supertalent ultradrives are good bang/buck |
| 21:40.50 | Xinhuan | can you summarize your rambling drweird :P |
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| 21:41.05 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: I bought an 80G intel SSD |
| 21:41.12 | NivFreak | it was similar in price to a raptor |
| 21:41.14 | drweird | krka: true.. my portguese isn't that great.. never really realized its not an acronym. haha |
| 21:41.17 | FtH|Daemona | but i would wait another 2-3 weeks till they fix the firmware for good. |
| 21:41.17 | VonhintenHOME` | hmm |
| 21:41.27 | NivFreak | (the raptor was larger) |
| 21:41.31 | VonhintenHOME` | naturally |
| 21:41.31 | FtH|Daemona | (or buy a intel) |
| 21:41.43 | NivFreak | the intel drives are pretty much unrivaled for performance still |
| 21:41.45 | VonhintenHOME` | there a downside? |
| 21:42.03 | VonhintenHOME` | other than cost and size |
| 21:42.08 | NivFreak | to SSD? |
| 21:42.18 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah |
| 21:42.19 | Xinhuan | note that SSD drives will slow down after you reach ~60% full |
| 21:42.19 | NivFreak | large file operations are slower in theory |
| 21:42.25 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: huh? |
| 21:42.34 | Xinhuan | read this: http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531&p=1 |
| 21:42.48 | Xinhuan | at least the first 20 pages or so |
| 21:42.54 | Xinhuan | of how the SSD technology works |
| 21:43.01 | NivFreak | http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/02/intel_claims_ssd_slow_down_problem_is_not_indicative_of_realworld_usage-2.html |
| 21:43.10 | Xinhuan | it'll explain why there is a WRITE slowdown after about 60% |
| 21:43.20 | Xinhuan | intel isn't wrong niv |
| 21:43.32 | Xinhuan | i also didn't give an opinion |
| 21:43.34 | Xinhuan | i gave a fact :p |
| 21:43.36 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:43.47 | Xinhuan | reading speeds won't change much |
| 21:44.31 | FtH|Daemona | after all it doesnt matter a lot as long as the ssd delivers same read/write as a velociraptor and superior random IOPS |
| 21:44.39 | FtH|Daemona | you will just notice the difference |
| 21:44.51 | Xinhuan | its just interesting to know the WHY behind it |
| 21:44.56 | Xinhuan | i'm not favouring either |
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| 21:45.06 | FtH|Daemona | of course, the anandtech article is a supreme read |
| 21:45.16 | NivFreak | yea, I'm reading it |
| 21:45.30 | FtH|Daemona | its just a pity they failed at making the release firmware unstable for the indilinx based ssds (vertex/ultradrive) |
| 21:45.41 | Kaelten | botmail read |
| 21:45.42 | Xinhuan | its one of those "why didn't he release this article earlier" |
| 21:46.09 | FtH|Daemona | for a fact Xinhuan its a followup for an article half a year ago when he reviewd the intel ssds ;) |
| 21:46.16 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 21:46.18 | FtH|Daemona | and basically bashed all other |
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| 21:46.43 | Xinhuan | the author still favours SSDs |
| 21:46.52 | Xinhuan | "The Intel drive is still the best of the best. Yes, it, and other SSDs do get slower over time and later in this article Iâll explain why it happens and why itâs not as big of a deal as youâd think." |
| 21:47.09 | FtH|Daemona | (IOPS ;) ) |
| 21:47.24 | FtH|Daemona | i like his highway analogy |
| 21:47.55 | FtH|Daemona | considering to get a 128GB indilinx based ssd once they iron out the flaws in the firmware |
| 21:48.19 | Funkeh` | All I'll be getting is SSD's in me next wave of upgrade |
| 21:48.23 | Funkeh` | probably around christmas |
| 21:48.37 | FtH|Daemona | its a damn good value at ~350eu for 128gb |
| 21:48.42 | Funkeh` | so they got lots of time to reduce the price |
| 21:48.53 | Funkeh` | +christmas offers |
| 21:49.07 | FtH|Daemona | you know... buy after christmas, not before ;) |
| 21:49.20 | Funkeh` | well yeah |
| 21:49.24 | Funkeh` | christmas period i mean |
| 21:49.43 | sb|work | oh, FtH|Daemona is back :p |
| 21:49.45 | Xinhuan | i wonder how long an SSD has in lifetime for practical usage purposes |
| 21:50.06 | FtH|Daemona | yeah, my laptop hdd died sb|work :( |
| 21:50.23 | FtH|Daemona | currently i am running from a 3.5" wired to the internal 44pin ide :X |
| 21:51.00 | FtH|Daemona | stupid OEM only lets it work with 5 harddrives ... none available on the market anymore... rambling through ebay for over a month now |
| 21:51.18 | FtH|Daemona | (yeah stupid me, using a laptop from 2003 still for email, irc, browsing) ... |
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| 21:57.53 | cncfanatics | ~seen nocts |
| 21:57.58 | purl | nocts <n=nocts@unaffiliated/nocts> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 88d 19h 37m 39s ago, saying: 'Happy holidays, and merry christmas :)'. |
| 22:04.39 | Gnarfoz | @project fish-bringer |
| 22:04.40 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'fish-bringer' |
| 22:04.44 | Gnarfoz | @project fishbringer |
| 22:04.45 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/fishbringer/. Fishbringer. Game: WoW. amnith (Manager/Author). Updated: 90 days ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
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| 22:08.06 | Gnarfoz | ~seen amnith |
| 22:08.08 | purl | amnith <i=robertja@217-14-8-108-dhcp-osl.bbse.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 98d 19h 14m 2s ago, saying: '... Which basically the thing I sent you does, l3viMU :)'. |
| 22:10.44 | Primer | So, my DK just turned 70 and I'm leveling him up as a tank. I'd like to try tanking some level 70 raids with level 70ish people. I'm reading that I need to have 490 defense. That applies to DKs too? |
| 22:11.23 | Primer | I've got 3 epic level 70 BoE items, each with 3 gem slots. Should I just gem that all with defense, since right now I'm at 366? |
| 22:13.00 | Codayus | Primer: The amount of defence skill needed is a function of the level difference between you and the mob. The amount of defence rating needed to obtain that skill is a function of your level. So...no, you won't need 490 defence to take a lvl 70 raid boss at lvl 70. |
| 22:13.07 | Codayus | er, tank, even |
| 22:14.10 | NivFreak | umm |
| 22:14.11 | NivFreak | well |
| 22:14.16 | NivFreak | lvl 70 raid bosses are 73 |
| 22:14.20 | NivFreak | if you are 70 |
| 22:14.24 | Primer | well, before wrath, the defense cap was 490 |
| 22:14.27 | NivFreak | so yes, you will need 490 defense :P |
| 22:14.30 | NivFreak | (skill) |
| 22:14.34 | Primer | so presumably, since I'm 70, it's still the same |
| 22:14.35 | Codayus | Damnit, I'm distracted. |
| 22:14.43 | NivFreak | Primer: you are correct, and yes it it applies |
| 22:15.05 | Primer | damn, best gem is thick autumn's glow, 16 def |
| 22:15.11 | Codayus | Primer: yes, 490. I was thinking 490 was the new Wrath numbers, and you'd need the old smaller TBC number. But 490 IS the old TBC number, so your right, and I'm embarassed. :-( |
| 22:15.18 | Primer | !math 16 * 9 |
| 22:15.34 | Primer | the new one is 540, no? |
| 22:15.55 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1036 Recount.lua: - Fixed cleanup of details when reseting fight data. |
| 22:15.57 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:16.03 | Codayus | I think so, but after my last attempt to answer questions from memory, I better be quiet. :-) |
| 22:16.58 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r54 / (4 files in 1 directory): implemented relational dkp system option |
| 22:18.00 | Primer | ok, with the new BoE gear equipped, I'm at 379 |
| 22:18.07 | Primer | all ungemmed, unenchanted |
| 22:18.46 | Primer | prismatic gems satisfy any gem slot color, correct? |
| 22:19.05 | VonhintenHOME` | count as red\yellow\blue |
| 22:19.32 | Primer | right, that's what I meant |
| 22:20.20 | Primer | I wonder if I should equip these mail epic level 70 pants with 3 gem slots |
| 22:20.41 | Primer | epic...and 3 gem slots...not plate though |
| 22:20.57 | Primer | we farmed Doomwalker and Kazzak a lot :) |
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| 22:21.16 | Primer | 5 man them both for 100g each person, each boss, plus 4 boe level 70 epics |
| 22:21.22 | Primer | and it takes like 10 minutes |
| 22:22.31 | Repo | 10bayis-extended-questlog: 03Ackis * r186 .pkgmeta: Fix .pkgmeta |
| 22:25.35 | Repo | 10guildmanagementtools: 03Ackis * r11 .pkgmeta: Fix .pkgmeta |
| 22:27.26 | Repo | 10aspectinspect: 03Ackis * r42 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix .pkgmeta |
| 22:27.31 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r103 GridCore.lua: --Hack in UnregisterNamespace |
| 22:29.16 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r104 Options (2 files in 1 directory): --Delete options for creatable indicators |
| 22:29.19 | Repo | --DeleteElement function to remove deleted element options |
| 22:32.19 | NeoTron | Primer: all things considered it's 100g per person and some vendor trash |
| 22:34.18 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Ackis * r41 .pkgmeta: Fix .pkgmeta |
| 22:37.28 | Repo | 10enhancedcalendar: 03Ackis * r20 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix .pkgmeta |
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| 22:41.01 | Repo | 10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm 04v3.6 * r74 : Tagging as v3.6 |
| 22:41.06 | Repo | 10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm 04v3.73 * r49 : Tagging as v3.73 |
| 22:41.11 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03kagaro 04v1.25 * r319 : Tagging as v1.25 |
| 22:41.14 | Repo | fix some edge case bugs. |
| 22:41.17 | Repo | default to a real texture if the one your using hasnt been loaded yet |
| 22:41.21 | Repo | better error messages. |
| 22:41.26 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou 04r86 beta * r87 : Tagging as r86 beta |
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| 22:46.18 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r105 GridLayoutLayouts.lua: |
| 22:46.23 | Repo | --Change the By Group 5 layouts to be for party and arena instead of raids and arena |
| 22:46.23 | Stew_a | what is the appropriate time to, and procedure for automatically joining a chat channel? (I seem to remember it being more than one function call but i don't remember what and in which order |
| 22:50.29 | Primer | NeoTron: ! vendor trash, as I've now equipped 3 items on my just-turned 70 DK :) |
| 22:51.36 | Primer | ugh, why are all these "of the Champion" green level 70 items so fucking expensive in the AH? |
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| 22:53.58 | aestil | good morning everyone. |
| 22:54.25 | aestil | my wife is saying that her PB3 health bars are not updating correctly. |
| 22:54.50 | aestil | that they do not actually change when the health of her targets or ToT's or focus targets [etc] changes. |
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| 22:54.59 | aestil | is there any known issue that causes this? |
| 22:55.31 | Stanzilla | pb3 = dead |
| 22:56.30 | aestil | pb4=alpha still? |
| 22:56.44 | nevcairiel | i would say beta |
| 22:56.46 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 22:56.51 | nevcairiel | but ckknight knows better! |
| 22:56.52 | VonhintenHOME` | my pb3 isn't dead.. works fine |
| 22:57.01 | ckknight | yea, the idea is to release PB4 before 3.1.0, that way there's a natural upgrade path |
| 22:57.06 | ckknight | yes |
| 22:57.08 | ckknight | but usable |
| 22:57.12 | ckknight | really, it is more of a beta |
| 22:57.14 | ckknight | not all the features are in |
| 22:57.16 | ckknight | things are shaping up, though |
| 22:57.18 | nevcairiel | he seems to be lagged |
| 22:57.23 | ckknight | yea, I am |
| 22:57.35 | ckknight | odd |
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| 22:58.13 | orionshock | anyone having connection problems with wow? |
| 22:58.52 | NivFreak | on a mac? |
| 23:00.06 | aestil | So, no explanation for the PB3 health bar problems? other than, its not good to use PB3 anymore? |
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| 23:00.14 | orionshock | NivFreak: on linux |
| 23:00.22 | ckknight | what health bar problems? |
| 23:00.26 | orionshock | im just getting a constant, "Disconnected from server" on login |
| 23:00.38 | orionshock | ffs there we go.. |
| 23:00.39 | taleden | orion: that happens to me once in awhile and i just have to restart the client |
| 23:00.58 | taleden | seems like sometimes wine just gets up on the wrong side of the bed, so to speak, and won't go thru |
| 23:01.04 | NivFreak | orionshock: not sure, my current nvidia drive on my linux box locks up when I touch opengl.. so I can't try it :) |
| 23:03.15 | Gnarfoz | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 23:03.19 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@unaffiliated/sylvanaar> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 12h 28m 45s ago, saying: 'im thrilled, its loading'. |
| 23:03.26 | Gnarfoz | meh :< |
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| 23:06.30 | Gnarfoz | @project prat |
| 23:06.32 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-14506/. Prat. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author). Updated: 175 days ago |
| 23:06.37 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 23:06.40 | Gnarfoz | @project prat-3-0 |
| 23:06.41 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat-3-0/. Prat 3.0. Game: WoW. sylvanaar (Manager/Author), Pazza (Tester), Medalist (Maintainer). Updated: 18 hours ago. Tickets: 21/106 |
| 23:06.44 | Gnarfoz | yeah. |
| 23:07.12 | Primer | ok, so defense "rating" is not the same as the defense "stat" in your character sheet |
| 23:07.21 | Primer | I just added gems and it didn't add up |
| 23:07.32 | Gnarfoz | oO please tell me you're a DK |
| 23:07.37 | Gnarfoz | and that's why you didn't know :p |
| 23:07.55 | Primer | I am a DK |
| 23:08.03 | Primer | but...that's not why I didn't know |
| 23:08.48 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Nevcairiel * r5065 Ulduar/Vezax.lua: |
| 23:08.51 | Repo | BigWigs: Vezax: Fix some copy/pasta mistakes in the mod to make it actually work. |
| 23:08.52 | Primer | Right now in my character sheet it's showing 404 defense |
| 23:09.25 | Primer | this is the stat I need to bring to 490? (to tank level 70 raids) (Yes, I want to tank level 70 raids with level 70ish people...don't ask why) |
| 23:09.41 | Gnarfoz | yes, it is. |
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| 23:10.19 | NivFreak | Primer: if you mouse over, it will tell you rating as well |
| 23:10.21 | Primer | go what's the best way? "of the Champion" gear and gems? |
| 23:10.46 | Primer | rating is 140 |
| 23:10.48 | nevcairiel | Primer: run dungeons, get real gear. You'll never hit it with green random gear |
| 23:10.52 | NivFreak | the way we did it back then? mostly farm lvl 70 dungeons for tank gear |
| 23:10.55 | NeoTron | so when you open a container, any way of knowing what that container actually is? like the "object id" or whatever? |
| 23:11.21 | Primer | ok |
| 23:11.22 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: we use tooltip scanning on the opening cast =( |
| 23:11.27 | NeoTron | ugh |
| 23:11.48 | Primer | perhaps I should get some people to run me through level 70 heroics :) |
| 23:11.52 | NeoTron | I am trying to figure out how to handle the non-kill bosses in Ulduar in MagicDKP |
| 23:12.00 | NivFreak | Primer: heroic gear is crap |
| 23:12.00 | NeoTron | preferably without having to listen to death chat messages |
| 23:12.09 | NivFreak | Primer: there's like 2-3 decent tank bits |
| 23:12.14 | NeoTron | Primer: I have to ask... why ? |
| 23:12.29 | NivFreak | Primer: there's a defense trinket to get from a quest in netherstorm |
| 23:12.35 | nevcairiel | death-chat is usually the best way, tbh. |
| 23:12.36 | NivFreak | Primer: and a defense trinket you can get from shadow labs |
| 23:12.55 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: only problem is that I then all of a sudden need to localize it for it to even work |
| 23:13.04 | NeoTron | in non-US locales that is |
| 23:13.06 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 23:13.08 | nevcairiel | So do you for the name of box =( |
| 23:13.14 | Gnarfoz | wowace localization system, go |
| 23:13.15 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 23:13.18 | nevcairiel | of the* |
| 23:13.19 | ckknight | howdy, all |
| 23:13.29 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: I need to convert MAgicDKP to that :P |
| 23:13.39 | NeoTron | but yeah I guess I have to do some annoying stuff like that |
| 23:13.44 | nevcairiel | I'm trying to remember if there was any of those bosses in BC at all |
| 23:13.48 | Gnarfoz | both wayrs require localization anyway |
| 23:13.51 | NeoTron | chess? |
| 23:13.58 | NeoTron | I never did support karazhan in MDKP |
| 23:14.02 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 23:14.09 | NeoTron | there's one thing |
| 23:14.21 | NeoTron | for the 4 bosses that turn friendly, I assume you'll have the npc there, but friendly |
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| 23:14.30 | nevcairiel | probably, yes |
| 23:14.38 | NeoTron | possible there's some combat log events with them as friendly, plus possible mouse-over scanning |
| 23:15.10 | nevcairiel | I wonder how raid trackers handle that |
| 23:15.22 | NeoTron | so does anyone happen to have any ptr kill combat log for freya, hodir, mimiron or so? |
| 23:15.32 | NeoTron | I know CTRT had chat scanning |
| 23:15.37 | nevcairiel | mimiron turns friendly too? |
| 23:15.45 | NeoTron | I thought he was one of the 4 guardians/ |
| 23:15.53 | nevcairiel | nah he is a techno-gnome |
| 23:16.20 | nevcairiel | auriaya is another guardian, i think |
| 23:16.57 | Primer | NeoTron: I just want to |
| 23:17.07 | nevcairiel | freya thorim hodir auriaya, those 4 |
| 23:17.08 | NeoTron | Mimiron, Hodir, Thorim and Freya are listed as "The Keepers of Ulduar" on ptr.wowhead.com |
| 23:17.24 | NeoTron | that's why I thought he was part of it but that makes sense |
| 23:17.27 | Elsia | flags in combat log could work, _if_ there is any combat log worthy event after they are friendly which might well not be the case. |
| 23:17.58 | NeoTron | right |
| 23:18.13 | NeoTron | mouse over would work too |
| 23:18.16 | nevcairiel | Mimiron is an ugly techno-gnome, i certainly hope we kill him. |
| 23:18.20 | Elsia | if there is it is the simplest and cleanest way to do it |
| 23:19.12 | NeoTron | I'll have to wait and see |
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| 23:20.21 | nevcairiel | All flasks recipes will now create 2 flasks for the same amount of ingredients. |
| 23:20.26 | nevcairiel | weird change, if you ask me |
| 23:22.15 | ckknight | hmm |
| 23:22.16 | ckknight | that is odd |
| 23:23.02 | Elsia | Typical raid evening being 2 flask timers maybe? |
| 23:23.19 | nevcairiel | Elsia: sure, but not like flasks are that expensive now |
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| 23:23.31 | nevcairiel | Not that i complain |
| 23:23.37 | nevcairiel | i just don't understand it :) |
| 23:23.44 | nevcairiel | They should rather implement new alchemists stones! |
| 23:23.52 | thul | good evening |
| 23:23.59 | nevcairiel | Maybe they did in those alchemists caches .. who knows |
| 23:24.32 | nevcairiel | its the thul, the same thul that wants to bring fisker along on a date with sarah walker .. i better leave |
| 23:24.39 | thul | :-( |
| 23:24.44 | thul | hugs nevcairiel |
| 23:24.48 | thul | I'm a nice guy :-( |
| 23:24.55 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: weird but pretty awesome |
| 23:26.09 | nevcairiel | Maybe someone failed at data mining again |
| 23:26.20 | nevcairiel | i'll see in the morning when i log in |
| 23:26.24 | nevcairiel | night all |
| 23:26.29 | NeoTron | cry nerf! Anti-Magic Shell now absorbs absorbing 75% of the damage dealt by harmful spells (up to a maximum of 50% of the Death Knight's health). |
| 23:29.51 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: what I wodner is if elixir specced alchemist will get up to 10... or up to 6? |
| 23:31.02 | VonhintenHOME` | oooh, 10! |
| 23:31.05 | VonhintenHOME` | that'd be nice |
| 23:31.24 | Elsia | wasn't the max proc 4 before? |
| 23:31.30 | VonhintenHOME` | 5 |
| 23:31.40 | Elsia | should be 10 indeed then |
| 23:31.42 | VonhintenHOME` | you could craft one and get 5 |
| 23:31.51 | Xinhuan | it would suck if your bags are full |
| 23:31.52 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 23:32.13 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r55 / (3 files in 1 directory): initial gear value support for relational dkp system |
| 23:32.20 | Elsia | I'm elixier specced but I think I got 1 5 proc in forever so :P |
| 23:32.21 | NeoTron | so this: Glyph of Seal of Blood -- When your Seal of Blood, Seal of the Martyr, Judgement of Blood, or Judgement of the Martyr deals damage to you, you gain 11% of the damage done as mana. (Old - Glyph of Seal of Blood -- Your Seal of Blood or Seal of the Martyr increases the mana received from Spiritual Attunement by 10% while active.) |
| 23:32.26 | NeoTron | isn't that amazingly overpowered? |
| 23:32.48 | Xinhuan | no |
| 23:32.56 | Xinhuan | its 11% of damage received |
| 23:32.59 | Xinhuan | not 11% of damage done |
| 23:33.03 | NeoTron | oh |
| 23:33.04 | NeoTron | ok |
| 23:33.08 | NeoTron | then it makes more sense |
| 23:33.11 | Primer | wow |
| 23:33.15 | Elsia | it's not the clearest wording |
| 23:33.25 | Primer | I just bought the entire green cobalt plate set and am now defense capped :) |
| 23:33.42 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't think they really intend for Ret to have mana problems |
| 23:33.55 | NivFreak | NeoTron: you have to keep in mind they removed spiritual attunement from all but prot pallies |
| 23:36.51 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r50 Abilities/Abilities.lua: |
| 23:36.54 | Repo | Refactored dungeon difficulty handling to care for shared spells (normal, heroic) |
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| 23:37.12 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r51 PersonalNotes (3 files in 1 directory): Usability improvements |
| 23:37.55 | NivFreak | Nature's Grasp and Thorns now castable in tree form |
| 23:38.32 | VonhintenHOME` | Looks like the Intel SSD is the only one worth buying currently |
| 23:38.32 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r52 / (4 files in 2 directories): Added context menu support in the list buttons |
| 23:38.53 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: yep |
| 23:38.59 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: I have one, and enjoy it |
| 23:39.15 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I know |
| 23:39.30 | NeoTron | NivFreak: but 11% of damage dealt (to the enemy) would be pretty insane |
| 23:39.39 | NivFreak | mortal strike for ret paladins |
| 23:39.41 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:39.49 | NivFreak | Crusader Strike is now An instant strike that causes 110% weapon damage. In addition, if you strike a player while they are casting, their magical damage and healing will be reduced by 50% for 6 sec. |
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| 23:40.07 | VonhintenHOME` | That's worse than mortal strike |
| 23:40.14 | NivFreak | yes |
| 23:40.19 | NivFreak | I bet that gets pulled |
| 23:40.25 | VonhintenHOME` | Yeah, maybe 30% at best |
| 23:40.38 | NeoTron | it's also "while they are casting" |
| 23:40.38 | VonhintenHOME` | Isn't CS on a 6 sec cooldown? |
| 23:40.51 | NivFreak | yes |
| 23:40.54 | Xinhuan | Glyph of Improved Scorch -- The Improved Scorch talent now generates 5 (up from 3) applications of the Improved Scorch effect each time Scorch is cast. |
| 23:40.56 | NeoTron | anti-caster ability |
| 23:40.59 | Xinhuan | this is the most fucking lamest |
| 23:41.01 | Xinhuan | change |
| 23:41.04 | Xinhuan | i've ever fucking seen |
| 23:41.08 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:41.17 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, but they're nerfing imp. scorch too |
| 23:41.20 | NivFreak | they should just make ffb/fb etc apply it |
| 23:41.36 | VonhintenHOME` | it's only 5% now, not 10% |
| 23:41.38 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: response to locks getting the effect for free on a main nuke? |
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| 23:41.57 | Xinhuan | not just that.. the lock's version i think applies all 5 stacks at one go |
| 23:42.12 | NivFreak | sure |
| 23:42.15 | NivFreak | but they don't spam SB |
| 23:42.25 | Xinhuan | we don't spam FFB either |
| 23:42.31 | NivFreak | sure |
| 23:42.33 | NivFreak | but a lot more of it |
| 23:42.37 | NeoTron | NivFreak: depends on spec |
| 23:42.40 | NeoTron | metalocks spam sb |
| 23:42.46 | Xinhuan | Improved Scorch now also Increases your chance to critically hit with Scorch by an additional 3/6/9%. |
| 23:42.49 | Xinhuan | oh hey look, a buff |
| 23:42.49 | NivFreak | who specs meta? |
| 23:42.50 | NivFreak | :P |
| 23:42.50 | NeoTron | as do afflocks (until execute range at least) |
| 23:43.07 | NeoTron | a lock keeping the debuff up? :P |
| 23:43.33 | NeoTron | from what the theorycrafting says though, all specs seems rather similar in dps come 3.1 |
| 23:43.39 | NeoTron | so I suspect more metalocks |
| 23:44.34 | NivFreak | the demo specs weren't meta afaik |
| 23:44.47 | NivFreak | and affliction does use SB, but it's far from spamming it |
| 23:44.51 | NivFreak | right? |
| 23:45.22 | NeoTron | sufficient spamming |
| 23:45.26 | NivFreak | shit man |
| 23:45.28 | NeoTron | and we have one aff one metalock atm |
| 23:45.30 | NivFreak | these ret changes... |
| 23:45.33 | NivFreak | time for a main switch clearly |
| 23:46.00 | NeoTron | you do know ret is like pretty much dead last for dps in 3.1 currently? |
| 23:46.06 | NivFreak | yes |
| 23:46.08 | NeoTron | and, of course, without mana |
| 23:46.09 | NivFreak | that looks fixed |
| 23:46.15 | NivFreak | plus we get MS |
| 23:46.17 | NeoTron | so now they might not be dead last |
| 23:46.25 | NivFreak | I'm not worried about it |
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| 23:46.46 | Axodious | that's not exactly ms |
| 23:46.46 | Gnarfoz | it's not ms -.- |
| 23:46.49 | Gnarfoz | it's inverse ms |
| 23:46.51 | NivFreak | most classes have been fucked during this patch cycle |
| 23:46.51 | Axodious | more like a reverse |
| 23:46.52 | Axodious | yea |
| 23:46.54 | NivFreak | they come back up |
| 23:46.56 | Gnarfoz | if anything |
| 23:47.00 | VonhintenHOME` | Anyone know how performance is in Ulduar, etc... is it worse than Naxx on systems? |
| 23:47.06 | Gnarfoz | also, how was ret oom fixed? |
| 23:47.10 | NeoTron | well AMS took a huge nerf for sure |
| 23:47.16 | VonhintenHOME` | I see a lot of bump mapping etc that they didn't use a lot of before |
| 23:47.23 | NeoTron | no more not standing behind iceblocks @ sapphiron :P |
| 23:47.31 | Axodious | though Gnarfoz |
| 23:47.38 | Axodious | that technically is worse |
| 23:47.57 | Axodious | its like putting MS on EVERYONE |
| 23:48.01 | Axodious | >_> |
| 23:48.11 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: JotW buff and glyh of SoB |
| 23:48.16 | Xinhuan | a rogue can already put MS on everyone |
| 23:48.18 | Gnarfoz | jotw buff where? oO |
| 23:48.19 | Xinhuan | with 50 energy |
| 23:48.22 | NivFreak | Judgements of the Wise now immediately grant you 25% of your base mana. (Up from 15%) |
| 23:48.26 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
| 23:48.27 | Gnarfoz | well ok |
| 23:48.33 | Gnarfoz | also, glyph of Sons of Bitches? |
| 23:48.35 | NivFreak | Glyph of Seal of Blood -- When your Seal of Blood, Seal of the Martyr, Judgement of Blood, or Judgement of the Martyr deals damage to you, you gain 11% of the damage done as mana. |
| 23:48.37 | Gnarfoz | ah well, right, SA is gone. |
| 23:48.40 | VonhintenHOME` | technically 38 energy :) |
| 23:48.46 | Gnarfoz | hurrr what |
| 23:48.49 | Gnarfoz | did I miss a build oO |
| 23:48.56 | Stanzilla | today's |
| 23:48.57 | NivFreak | just now |
| 23:48.58 | Gnarfoz | oh idd |
| 23:49.02 | Gnarfoz | *reads* |
| 23:49.27 | NivFreak | so ret finally has a good 3rd major glyph |
| 23:49.27 | Xinhuan | *goes to patch and sees if they fixed more ui bugs* |
| 23:49.35 | NivFreak | hopefully it evens out mana regen |
| 23:49.41 | NeoTron | what's nice is that the change to JotW makes soloing nicer |
| 23:49.47 | NeoTron | and that glyph too |
| 23:49.54 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:49.56 | Xinhuan | as if ret has problems soloing in the first place |
| 23:50.00 | NivFreak | hey man |
| 23:50.08 | NivFreak | I had to use TWO GCDS if my trinket didn't proc |
| 23:50.08 | NivFreak | TWO |
| 23:50.17 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: coming from a DK, I on occasion get low on mana :P |
| 23:50.17 | thul | http://www.lolwut.com/pics/1225833712823.jpg |
| 23:50.39 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 23:50.43 | Xinhuan | my wow ptr client isn't updating |
| 23:50.45 | Xinhuan | >.> |
| 23:51.04 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r56 whispercommands.lua: Fix: 3 - Return current dkp, not just inital |
| 23:51.04 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:51.08 | NivFreak | a few people have said that |
| 23:54.05 | Odlaw | My guild is retarded. We had to postpone our naxx run 3 times this week and when we do it.. we evade bug a boss and when it stops evading, a healer dies.. I'm never getting immortal. |
| 23:54.53 | sztanpet | such a futile life without immortal :( |
| 23:55.19 | VonhintenHOME` | I gave up on the idea of Immortal when I read its description and then remembered the players in my guild |
| 23:56.05 | VonhintenHOME` | we've got it all. The dumbasses, the halfasses, the overzealous DPS that gets themselves killed... |
| 23:56.06 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r57 sdkp.lua: don't show !dkp requests |
| 23:56.09 | Odlaw | some dumb healer decided to heal gluth main tank from the tunnel... and evade bugged gluth.. he jumps down.. and eats the healer |
| 23:56.27 | Odlaw | my friend says his guild makes whoever fails pay the rest of the raid a flask each |
| 23:56.41 | Odlaw | I bet that would encourage people to stop sucking |
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| 23:57.34 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't like this flask x2 thing... that just totally rendered my 4hr flask bonus moot |
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