IRC log for #wowace on 20090306

00:02.38Odlawmy guild is retarded.  instead of going for immortal each week, we go for shit that can be worked on after wipes (20 man for the 5th time)
00:03.01Axodiousim not saying use those cooldowns when shadron lands, i'm saying when the acolyte that does 75% shadow damage spawns
00:03.02OdlawI'm not even sure if anyone even needs 20man anymore
00:12.13Groktarpounces Odlaw
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00:21.59Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5001 Ulduar (5 files in 1 directory):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
00:22.02RepoBigWigs: Ulduar:
00:22.05Repo- Added substance for Leviathan and Ignis
00:22.08Repo- Freya: Change add => wave and 'Nature's Fury'. Add warn 'Sunbeam'
00:22.11Repo- Thorim: Add warn 'Unbalancing Strike'
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00:23.10Axodiousstupid ptr world server down
00:24.11ulicgood to see my use of "substance" is catching on :)
00:28.24Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5002 Plugins (2 files in 1 directory): Attempt to fix the chat filters for 3.1.
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00:36.09vhaarrokay so
00:36.16vhaarr[2009/03/06 01:34:37-39-x1]: Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2241: bad argument #1 to 'strlen' (string expected, got nil):
00:36.21vhaarrthat's actually a blizzard bug, right?
00:36.30Odlawgreat.. so we get a healer ld during grobbulus.. injected.. we keep 'em alive till grobbulus is dead.. then someone ignores the healing duties.. and lets 'em die.. we're still in combat.. think we just lost immortal?
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00:36.39vhaarrbecause I see in ChatFrame.lua at that line, they do |local channelLength = strlen(arg4);|, just assuming that arg4 exists
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00:36.44vhaarrwhile for any non-channel, it should be nil anyway
00:37.03vhaarrOdlaw: some people claim that you don't lose it then
00:37.14Odlawhrm
00:37.23vhaarras long as the boss is dead, you can die in the clouds as well, apparently
00:37.49Odlawhope so :(
00:37.53Aens|Superioritythat is true
00:38.04Aens|Superioritygot undying even though that happened
00:38.12Odlawokee
00:39.02Odlawi hate achievments that require people to not go ld.  worst idea ever.
00:41.15vhaarr"ld"?
00:41.24Odlawlink dead
00:41.30Odlawcrash / network problems
00:41.31vhaarrthat's a fucking horrible abbrevation
00:41.37vhaarrwhat's wrong with DC
00:41.50Odlawbecause i can't link the link death spell then
00:42.11Odlaw:)
00:42.36OdlawI dunno, our server I always see LD.  I've never seen many people use DC
00:43.45kenlyricapparently full of bbs users
00:44.00Odlawmmm.. the olden days
00:44.45Arrowmastervhaarr: that could be caused by a chatfilter that hasnt been updated maybe
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00:45.05vhaarrArrowmaster: I checked and there's only 1 filter registered on the event, so no
00:45.19Arrowmasterptr right?
00:45.22vhaarryes
00:45.31Arrowmasterprobably blizz bug then
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00:46.16vhaarrno wait, gah
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00:50.27TradeMarkquick question
00:50.35TradeMarkare these options/defaults going to line up? http://paste.wowace.com/326/
00:50.49TradeMarkI'm unclear on how to name things in the defaults table, and can't find any good examples/tuts :(
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00:51.10vhaarrname things so they make sense?
00:51.12vhaarrheh
00:51.43TradeMarkyes but in the defaults table I have to nest a couple tables? or something? not sure if I have enough there...
00:52.01Xinhuanthen nest them?
00:52.09Arrowmasteryou just need the profile = {
00:52.12TradeMarkwhat I mean is, I'm at a bit of a loss how AceConfig lines up defaults with an options table
00:52.18Arrowmasterthats all the nesting you need
00:52.23vhaarrTradeMark: there's hundreds of addons on wowace.com, download a random Ace3-based one and read the code?
00:53.01TradeMarkI've looked at Recount and Omen, but they both have screeds of settings, with nested settings and stuff... a simple example is hard to come by :(
00:53.18vhaarrno it isn't
00:53.21TradeMarkArrowmaster: so that code looks correct?
00:53.28vhaarrthere's AuraToChat and ClosetGnome, to name 2
00:53.30Arrowmasteryes
00:53.39TradeMarkok, thanks
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01:01.51TradeMarkeven AuraToChat has items in defaults which don't appear anywhere in options >.>
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01:02.31TradeMarkit's confusing to say the least... but then I'm probably misunderstanding the usage of defaults
01:04.45Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5003 Plugins (2 files in 1 directory): Chat filters working.
01:05.06Repo10simple-boss-whisperer: 03Rabbit * r41 SimpleBossWhisperer.lua: Fix chat filters for 3.1.
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01:08.51Xinhuandid you guys see
01:08.56Xinhuanhow they updated the minimap blips
01:09.00Xinhuanin ptr
01:09.04Xinhuanits now class colored
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01:11.59Silowyiok
01:12.10Silowyiis there a way to make your chat tabs up at the top of your chat frame not disappear?
01:18.40Ackishttp://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/madspoon1/guilddisband.jpg <-- rofl my guild bye bye
01:19.34XinhuanAntiarc
01:19.39Antiarcyo
01:19.40Xinhuanhave you seen the default UI minimap
01:19.42Xinhuanin PTR
01:19.46Antiarcno
01:19.51AntiarcI haven't been on the PTR
01:19.55Xinhuanparty member blips are all class coloured now
01:20.36AntiarcOh, nice.
01:20.43Xinhuanand a doughnut circle means people in your raid
01:20.48Xinhuana solid circle means ppl in your party
01:20.55Antiarcinteresting
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01:33.41Kaeltengah, this is bullshit
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01:34.34sztanpetPICS!
01:34.39Kaeltenheh
01:34.47Kaeltenhow about a function that's spost to return a member variable
01:34.54Kaeltenbut instead returns a null pointer
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01:42.12PrimerI'd say the language is flawed
01:44.55Dark_ElfSteelSeries has just launched the World of Warcraft MMO Gaming Mouse, featuring 15 programmable buttons, ergonomic design, 16 million illumination options, and advanced macro creation capabilities. For full details, please visit www.steelseries.com; the mouse is now available in major gaming and electronics stores everywhere
01:47.08KaeltenPrimer: well it's c++
01:47.10Kaeltenso yeah that's obvious
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01:53.00Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r5004-release * r5004 : Tagging as r5004-release
01:54.23PrimerCan someone recommend a good loot distribution addon? I just need tracking of who got what when.
01:54.43Groktari used to use ct raidtracker
01:54.48Groktarbut that was in vanilla wow
01:55.00TradeMarkXLoot
01:55.25TradeMarkhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/xloot.aspx
01:55.29vhaarrPrimer: NRT can provide you with a simple loot list
01:55.41TradeMarkgrab XLootGroup, XLootMaster and XLootMonitor too as you need
01:55.43vhaarrPrimer: just disable the "On Boss Kill" option and you're golden
01:56.17Primerok, thanks
01:56.35PrimerI just need to start tracking who gets what in our raids, so we have a point of reference for loot council
01:57.34TradeMarkoh ok, XLoot won't do that :P
01:57.39TradeMarksorry
01:58.06Primeryeah, I installed NRT
01:58.12Primerseems it does what I want
01:59.11ArrowmasterFunkeh`: want a hodir transcript?
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02:06.18Funkeh`Arrowmaster, sure
02:08.22Arrowmastersending now
02:08.38Arrowmasterits from my friend and his guild
02:10.16Arrowmasterif i get anymore logs from him ill send them to you
02:11.35Funkeh`host it up somewhere so vhaarr can download it too
02:11.54vhaarror just cc them to me
02:15.49robotuschDark_Elf, yeah, and that mouse sucks major noodles
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02:18.53KilrooHmm...
02:19.22Kilroonever noticed before how similar tbag and arkinventory are.
02:19.29KilrooProbably because I never used arkinventory.
02:19.39Arrowmastervhaarr: i dont think i have your email
02:19.52vhaarrvhaarr@gmail.com
02:21.29Arrowmasterdid Funkeh` already forward the one to you?
02:22.03Funkeh`?
02:22.06Funkeh`you never sent me anything
02:22.12Arrowmasteri did
02:22.21Funkeh`where?
02:22.40Arrowmasteremail@funkydude.co.uk
02:22.54Funkeh`lol I didn't know you had that
02:23.26Funkeh`ill forward it
02:23.32Arrowmasteralready sending
02:23.40Arrowmasterand ive sent you many logs before
02:23.48Arrowmasterlike all of 2.4 BT
02:24.47Funkeh`long time ago n all :p
02:25.16Cryectfix bigwigs curious so it doesn't break chat on ptr?
02:25.23vhaarrI just did
02:25.30Cryectalright nice
02:25.38Cryecttook a while to figure out thats what was breaking raid chat
02:25.55vhaarryeah and blizzard is changing those message filters again next PTR patch
02:26.05Cryectoh yeah!
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02:29.15Funkeh`oh vhaarr do you know the details of what they are changing?
02:29.32Cryecthope they will make the raid encounters slightly harder than they've been so far
02:32.58Groktarhodir could use a buff
02:33.37NeoTronCryect: it's very likely that the current PTR is easier than live will be so mechanics are better tested
02:34.03NeoTronand to give a guideline on how "hard" they are so they know how to tweak it. Think SWP PTR compared to live
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02:57.09CryectWas taking a break from WoW during SWP
02:57.28CryectBut BT wasn't any different and Naxx during beta for example wasn't any different
02:57.42CryectBut will see
02:58.13Cryectthe mechanics should be fully tested without them being easy before they hit PTR but they seem to have gotten rid of QA or something
02:58.18Cryectconsidering how buggy this PTR has been
02:58.34kenlyricwhy would they need QA?
02:58.40kenlyricyou fuckers will do it for free
02:58.41sztanpetswp was a lot easire on the ptr, its been perfectly tuned when it got on live tho
03:00.06CryectI'm confused how they have so many crash bugs considering the technology should be well tested by now for servers and not changing their server code completely every patch
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03:14.06Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r998 / (5 files in 1 directory):
03:14.09Repo- Upvalue of frequently used static table lookups across module. Should help performance a little bit.
03:14.12Repo- Reworked AddDamageData to use flag based retention to decide when to add a combatant. This should be more temporary memory friendly and use less cycles due to the ditching of retention checks. Currently this breaks boss retentions though as flags do not identify bosses. Boss handling to be added. Also similar treatment for other data recordings pending. This is definitely alpha.
03:14.16Repo- Some minor optimizations (removal of some redundant or idle code).
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03:19.46Kilrooreads this Equipment Manager dealy
03:20.15KilrooSo...Blizzard decided to make their own ClosetGnome?
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03:24.58XinhuanKilroo: yes
03:25.02Xinhuanand made it even better!
03:25.15KilrooImpressive.
03:25.25Xinhuanwith swapmagic support + icon/name per set
03:26.00Kilroogoes to see if there's anything he thinks he might like better than Barkeep, in case either Visor2 doesn't work these days or he loses patience for setting it up.
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03:52.49RaydenUyay
03:52.50RaydenU1d down
03:54.48Repo10mountiful: 03Jomar * r41 / (2 files in 1 directory): Mountiful:
03:54.51Repo- small bugfix
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04:11.00ulicyou ok there Cairenn?
04:11.19Cairennyeah, just arguing with nickserv, didn't want to do what I wanted it to do
04:11.21Cairennsorry for the spam
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04:43.56Kilroocheers for Kemayo
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04:46.56KarlThePaganKaelten: my Vista / VirtualStore problem is back with 2.1.3.0 - issue #240
04:47.27KarlThePaganit will not let me save my configuration with the virtual store directory
04:48.11KarlThePaganlooks like if I close and re-open the app it sortof works
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05:20.56Groktarkill shadron with whole raid up
05:21.04Groktarrl "dps adds before you take the port!"
05:21.06Groktardurp
05:22.03theoddone33we tried it a lot of ways
05:22.16theoddone33on our kill we took the port on the 3rd drake but people say we shouldn't
05:22.26theoddone33until vesperon is dead
05:23.03NeoTronfor 25 man we do 2 drakes then aoe then port, then 3rd drake then port
05:23.19Groktarsame
05:25.22NeoTronI seem to recall for 10 man we killed 2 drakes, aoe, 3rd drake then portal
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06:47.44RaydenUwhat's a funny thing a warrior could do during a raid?
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07:27.27GrumRaydenU: stay alive
07:28.53Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r109 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix .toc for disembedding.
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07:41.50Repo10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Fixed recipient finding (didn't work at all before).
07:41.53Repo- Removed unintentional debug messages.
07:42.29Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r78 Options/ChangeList.lua: --todo list
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07:50.17digmousewill the alternate packaging of CC delete embedded libs?
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08:07.35VonhintenHOME`Anyone know what kind of impact QuestHelper has when in a raid?
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08:09.14CodayusIt's never bothered me, but my system is fairly chunky.  I know plenty of people who turn it off.
08:12.28VonhintenHOME`Same.  Just wondering if it's doing sharing with 25 people in the raid though
08:12.36Xinhuanit is :)
08:12.36VonhintenHOME`that could be significant
08:12.49Xinhuanit shares data constantly with raid members to see what quests you can help each other with
08:13.15Xinhuananyhow my guildie came across this link: http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ohshi.jpg
08:13.18VonhintenHOME`is that an opt in communication channel, or is it sent to everyone in the raid
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08:13.39Arrowmasterit monitors a lot of events though for its datamining
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08:15.03hasterepost is a repost Xinhuan
08:15.16VonhintenHOME`lol xinhuan, yeah.. worgen = negrow and its coincidences have been known for a while
08:15.16Fisker-vælters haste
08:15.23Xinhuan:(
08:15.23hastevelter Fisker-.
08:15.40Fisker-you can't vælt what has already been vælted
08:15.53hasteI have a veltepinne so I can!
08:16.35VonhintenHOME`So, I should probably be telling folks to disable QuestHelper for raids
08:17.34VonhintenHOME`Or is clicking the show/hide button on the minimap enough ?
08:18.14Fisker-just tell them to uninstall
08:18.27Fisker-only retards can't read the quest
08:18.27VonhintenHOME`Not an option
08:18.38Fisker-<PROTECTED>
08:18.40Arrowmasterhiding doesnt help
08:18.49VonhintenHOME`I CAN read the quest, I just don't want to
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08:20.27ElkanoFisker- <3
08:20.34Fisker-:3?
08:20.43ElkanoI <3 people that h8 QH ^^
08:21.22Fisker-i wish blizzard would let us query what dailies we could make :(
08:21.41Fisker-hate having to go to shattrath just FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU because it's not the crocolisks daily
08:21.54Elkanoyeah :/
08:24.00omegahah, I got the crocolisk today, but no new minipet :/
08:24.16omegaand no cake recpipe either :/
08:25.30Fisker-so americans
08:25.35Fisker-to the sugestiomobile
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08:27.35Fisker-son...
08:27.38Fisker-i am disappoint
08:27.38Fisker-[2009/03/06 09:26:57-5676-x1]: SkadaHealing-1.0\Overhealing.lua:3: Usage: NewModule(name, [prototype, [lib, lib, lib, ...]): 'name' - Module 'OverhealingMode' already exists.
08:27.38Fisker-AceAddon-3.0-5 (Ace3):221: in function `NewModule'
08:27.38Fisker-SkadaHealing-1.0\Overhealing.lua:3: in main chunk
08:30.33Fisker-come on guise
08:32.31Repo10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r200 Core.lua: RaidBuffStatus:
08:32.34Repo- Fixed Vigilance buff check.
08:33.11ZarnivoopFisker-: oops
08:34.31Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r110 modules/SkadaHealing/Healing.lua: Fixed broken healing mode.
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08:37.59Fisker-There's not an addon that queries both DBM and Bigwigs to check if they're installed right?
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08:40.41Elkanowell, there is SpyGnome ;)
08:40.57Elkanobut it only works if they have AceComm-2.0 installed
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09:06.56SunTsuZarnivoop: the option to turn off minimap button does nothing for me, currently I use 1.0-11, but as far as I can remember it never did
09:07.22SunTsuZarnivoop: on skada, but you might already have guessed that
09:08.18CIA-35tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * redec7e1 10/ GuideList.lua : Fix guide list if there are fewer guides present than fit in the list - http://bit.ly/X7Ny6
09:08.56ZarnivoopSunTsu: ok. think I had that happen sometimes with SexyMap but dismissed and forgot it as some issue with that addon.
09:10.04SunTsuZarnivoop: Yeah, I use SexyMap
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09:25.24Repo10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r4 MagicLooter.lua: Not using LibLogger-1.0 so don't try to embed it.
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09:49.34Repo10chinon: 03Sayclub * r85 Locale/koKR.lua: Chinon:
09:49.37Repo- koKR update
10:07.07Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r999 Tracker.lua:
10:07.10Repo- Only store data for a new combatant if it was truthfully created.
10:11.28nevcairielspam inc.
10:11.36Repo10libavion-2-0: 03Nevcairiel * r47 LibAvion-2.0.toc:
10:11.39RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:11.48Repo10itemprice-1-1: 03Nevcairiel * r63 ItemPrice-1.1.toc:
10:11.51RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:11.56Repo10libavionoptions-2-0: 03Nevcairiel * r20 LibAvionOptions-2.0.toc:
10:11.59RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:12.04Repo10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r179 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.toc:
10:12.07RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:12.13Repo10libbabble-class-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r52 LibBabble-Class-3.0.toc:
10:12.16RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:12.21Repo10libbabble-creaturetype-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r45 LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0.toc:
10:12.24RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:12.29Repo10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r85 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.toc:
10:12.32RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:12.37Repo10libbabble-inventory-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r82 LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.toc:
10:12.40RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:12.46Repo10libbabble-talenttree-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r20 LibBabble-TalentTree-3.0.toc:
10:12.49RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:12.54Repo10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r189 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.toc:
10:12.57RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:13.02Repo10libbars-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r16 LibBars-1.0.toc:
10:13.05RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:13.11Repo10libdebuglog-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r24 LibDebugLog-1.0.toc:
10:13.14RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:13.19Repo10libdogtag-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r212 LibDogTag-3.0.toc:
10:13.22RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:13.27Repo10libdogtag-items-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r13 LibDogTag-Items-3.0.toc:
10:13.30RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:13.35Repo10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r177 LibDogTag-Unit-3.0.toc:
10:13.36nevcairielamazing how Repo survives
10:13.38RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:13.43Repo10libfriends-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r30 LibFriends-1.0.toc:
10:13.46RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:13.52Repo10libfubarplugin-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r64 LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.toc:
10:13.55RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:14.00Repo10libgraph-2-0: 03Nevcairiel * r40 LibGraph-2.0.toc:
10:14.03RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:14.08Repo10libguild-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r32 LibGuild-1.0.toc:
10:14.11RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:14.17Repo10libguildpositions-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r42 LibGuildPositions-1.0.toc:
10:14.20RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:14.25Repo10libitembonus-2-0: 03Nevcairiel * r66 LibItemBonus-2.0.toc:
10:14.28RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:14.34Repo10libkeybound-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r88 LibKeyBound-1.0.toc:
10:14.37RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:14.42Repo10libkeyboundextra-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r33 LibKeyBoundExtra-1.0.toc:
10:14.45RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:14.50Repo10liblogger-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r31 LibLogger-1.0.toc:
10:14.53RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
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10:15.00Repo10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Nevcairiel * r156 LibPeriodicTable-3.1.toc:
10:15.03RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:15.07Repo10libsharedmedia-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r59 LibSharedMedia-3.0.toc:
10:15.09RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:15.15Repo10libsimpleoptions-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r45 LibSimpleOptions-1.0.toc:
10:15.18RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:15.20nevcairielhm my checkin is long done
10:15.23Repo10libsimpletimer-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r33 LibSimpleTimer-1.0.toc:
10:15.24nevcairielslow repo is slow
10:15.26RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:15.32Repo10libsink-2-0: 03Nevcairiel * r62 LibSink-2.0.toc:
10:15.35RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:15.40Repo10libstickyframes-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r43 LibStickyFrames-1.0.toc:
10:15.43RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:15.48Repo10libstickyframes-2-0: 03Nevcairiel * r36 LibStickyFrames-2.0.toc:
10:15.51RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:15.56Repo10libtalentquery-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r55 LibTalentQuery-1.0.toc:
10:15.59RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:16.08Repo10libabacus-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r49 LibAbacus-3.0.toc:
10:16.10RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:16.15Repo10libcrayon-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r47 LibCrayon-3.0.toc:
10:16.18RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:16.23Repo10libgratuity-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r41 LibGratuity-3.0.toc:
10:16.26nevcairielnearly done!
10:16.26RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:16.32Repo10libjostle-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r45 LibJostle-3.0.toc:
10:16.35RepoRestore LoD to Libraries, as 3.0.8 fixed all bugs that blocked LoD OptionalDeps to load properly.
10:16.37nevcairielthats it :)
10:16.41nevcairielapplauds Repo
10:16.47Xinhuanslaps nevcairiel away with a large trout
10:17.22nevcairiel:(
10:18.16quiescensstabs xinhuan with a pillow
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10:19.12Repo10magic-comm: 03Nevcairiel * r49 MagicComm.toc: MagicComm: This can be LoD too, i know it!
10:19.19XinhuanGlory of the Raider complete
10:19.27Xinhuannerd points +35
10:19.36nevcairielgo do heroic
10:19.50Xinhuancbf with immortal
10:19.52sb|worki need ~8 more naxx bosses then its done
10:19.55Xinhuanserver is too unstable
10:20.02sb|workhaha immortal :(
10:20.05nevcairielyou managed on 10 man
10:20.18nevcairielwe nearly got it twice already
10:20.29nevcairielwhen someone messed up on kelthuzad
10:20.31Xinhuan10man is different from 25
10:20.46sb|worktoo many stupid people in 25 :p
10:20.51Xinhuanyeah
10:20.58Xinhuanrealistically speaking it doesn't work to gear up new recruits
10:21.01Xinhuanvs do immortal
10:21.11nevcairielwho needs gear
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10:23.03nevcairielhaha awesome, i got a really nice grade on my SAP/ABAP exam even though i mostly wrote pseudo code because i couldnt remember half the syntax
10:23.06nevcairielyay
10:23.07nevcairiel:p
10:23.39nevcairiel(i hate programming on paper, btw)
10:24.07sb|worki hate SAP :p
10:24.17nevcairielso do i
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10:24.33profalbertwho loves SAP?
10:24.52nevcairielThats why they pay so much for those jobs
10:24.59profalbertheh
10:26.21nevcairielAnd i was worried that i would fail the exam due to the gibberish i wrote
10:26.23nevcairielheh
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10:28.08cncfanaticsis it possible to make a macro to cast on mouseover if it exists
10:28.13cncfanaticsif it doesn't on target
10:28.15cncfanaticsif it doesn't on player
10:28.16nevcairielsure
10:28.48cncfanaticshow would it look ?
10:28.53nevcairiel./cast [target=mouseover,exists][exists][target=player]Spell
10:29.09cncfanaticsty :)
10:30.35Repo10huntard: 03Xocide 07master * v0.4-2-g5d90ad7 Huntard.lua: [+2 commits]
10:30.38Repo5d90ad7: New Feign Death Notification
10:30.41Repo26976c7: New Cooldown Notification working on shots.
10:31.27nevcairielHmm i wonder if i can replace my sRF raid frames with oUF too
10:31.35nevcairielits probably too much work to do though..
10:31.50cncfanaticsmm, not working
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10:32.17nevcairieltarget=
10:32.20nevcairielno :
10:32.31nevcairielread what i write =P
10:32.32Repo10ag_unitframes: 03StingerSoft * r693 / (7 files in 4 directories): - added ruRU
10:32.34cncfanaticsoh ups
10:32.35Repo- added missing translation
10:32.47cncfanaticsits mod: and target=
10:32.49cncfanaticsconfusing >.>
10:32.50nevcairielyea
10:33.01nevcairielmod is a condition
10:33.06nevcairieland target actually changes the target
10:33.10nevcairielthats why assignment there .)
10:33.12cncfanaticsI see
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10:45.44Repo10huntard: 03Xocide 07master * v0.4-5-g19de51a Huntard.lua: [+3 commits]
10:45.47Repo19de51a: Few fixes to the CD notify feature.
10:45.50Repo073fa76: Added more spells to the cooldown notification feature.
10:45.53Repo20bd3af: Code Cleanup
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11:33.21Repo10avion2: 03CommanderSirow * r13 Aggro/Aggro.lua: - Aggro Module: Don't trigger status more than once
11:37.14Repo10avion2: 03CommanderSirow * r14 Runes/ (9 files in 2 directories):
11:37.17Repo- Readded Runes/DK module translation (why where those files missing anyway???)
11:37.22Repo10ner-frames: 03Jncl * r33 options.lua: Bugfix
11:45.54Fisker-btw nevcairiel
11:46.07Fisker-that there stasiscl just seem to be making shit pages that don't do shit :3
11:46.14Fisker-the history just adds an xml etc
11:46.16Fisker-giev halp
11:46.20Fisker-and the php indexer doesn't work :E
11:46.28Fisker-bbl btw so giev solutions in pm etc.
11:46.30sb|workwtf are you doing?
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11:57.27Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r111 Skada.lua:
11:57.31Repo"Delete segment" in menu now shows a submenu for choosing segment to delete.
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12:04.38Repo10linksup: 03CommanderSirow 04v1.1 * r10 : Tagging r9 as v1.1
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12:13.07Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r112 / (6 files in 6 directories): Added a summary value on the mode list, for each mode.
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12:51.23Xinhuandid wowace just die
12:51.34XinhuanInternal Server Error
12:51.34XinhuanThe server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
12:52.01quiescenswhat did you broek
12:52.08Xinhuannothing
12:52.15Xinhuani tried to access the root website
12:52.19Xinhuanpokes ckknight in the ribs
12:52.30quiescenstisk
12:52.36quiescensxinhuan broke something~
12:53.21Xinhuanpokes Kaelten in the ribs
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12:54.11SunTsu~lart Xinhuan
12:54.11purltakes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in Xinhuan's direction, hitting Xinhuan and sending Xinhuan flying into the closet
12:55.20Xinhuanoh well i guess they are asleep
12:55.38Xinhuanmaybe nevcairiel is awake and can do something about it
12:56.48MikkHe can't
12:56.53MikkNeither can I
12:57.07MikkWe only have access to the admin interface of the curseforge software these days
12:57.19Xinhuani thought so
12:57.46Mikk(Unless I missed something entirely but I don't think so)
12:57.58Xinhuanmaybe someone can call/wake up kael/ck though
13:24.31Mikkyeah i bet they'd love a call at 5 in the morning
13:26.34harlis there a good add-on that enables creating more than 54 macros? (other than macaroon)
13:26.34Xinhuanserver admins tend to expect that ;p
13:32.19sb|worketa 30minutes *sigh*
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13:59.01Dark_ElfThe server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
13:59.02Dark_ElfPlease contact the server administrator, bmclemore@curse.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
13:59.03Dark_ElfMore information about this error may be available in the server error log.
13:59.31sacarascOld news.
13:59.48sacarascXinhuan broke it over an hour ago.
13:59.48Dark_Elfso wowace is downeth?
14:00.09Xinhuanlies
14:00.11Dark_Elf:(======
14:02.30KalrothI heard it was Xinhuan that broke the site
14:02.41Xinhuanlies!
14:02.56KalrothNo it's true, I really heard it
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14:10.48profalbertwowace-server down?
14:15.44vhaarrStanzilla: added the thaddius warning you wanted now, repo is just down so no commit msg
14:15.47vhaarrprofalbert: yes
14:15.59Stanzillacool, thanks :)
14:16.03sb|workvhaarr: what thaddius warning?
14:16.09sb|work@project bigwigs
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14:16.13sb|workmeh :)
14:16.18sb|workright...
14:16.31vhaarron the first polarity, bw would say "Your polarity changed" and alert you
14:16.39vhaarrnow it says "You're positive/negative" on the first charge
14:16.49sb|workah
14:17.30quiescensrun awai
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14:35.58Neeblerdo it nao
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14:57.06vhaarr"The legislators in Illinois, always on the lookout for more places to find voters, have passed a resolution declaring Pluto is a planet."
14:57.11vhaarrhttp://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/06/0436206
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14:59.51Fisker-you are my archnemesis nevcairiel
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15:08.59ckknightwowace is back up
15:15.00Fisker-i hate you
15:15.57Aesisisi hate everything
15:15.59Aesisisgoes emo
15:16.01Aesisisnick Aesis
15:16.12haste~fail Aesisis
15:16.33purlAesisis: FAIL!
15:16.33Aesisisdai
15:16.33hastesuki
15:16.38Aesisisgive my nick back :(
15:16.46hasteghost the person
15:16.49Fisker-vælter haste
15:16.57hasteI'm already on the sofa
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15:55.01Repopong
15:55.04AckisWorkodd
15:56.08AckisWorkckknight: don't think repo is reporting commits
15:56.43ckknightAckisWork: ...you killed him
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15:57.00AckisWork:(
15:57.14Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1553 AckisRecipeList.lua:
15:57.20RepoAdd debug message for alphas for recipes which have an unknown zone.
15:57.24Repo10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r5010 Extras/Version.lua: ruRU added/update
15:57.34Pneumatusbet its got a monster backlog :o
15:58.01Gnarfozanyone speaking russian or some other language from the far-eastern european area here? ^^
15:58.23quiescenshow many far eastern european languages are there?
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15:58.37ckknightquiescens: нет
15:58.51ckknighterr
15:58.53ckknightmeant Gnarfoz
15:59.04ckknightquiescens: 10 or so?
15:59.10Gnarfozquiescens: latvian, bulgaric, ukrainian, etc etc
15:59.48Gnarfozckknight: yea yeah I know you speak everything :P
16:00.01ckknightnah, not really
16:00.04ckknightI don't know much Russian
16:00.18quiescensshrugs
16:00.33quiescensnot sure exactly which countries are considered eastern european
16:00.44PneumatusArmenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bulgaria, Georgia, Russian Federation, Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia and Uzbekistan.
16:00.53Gnarfozoh, I'm also perpetrating the crime of 'asking to ask'... looking for a translation for "nekenciu melo" (probably missing correct accent marks, and might even be a romanization of something kyrillic - I have no clue)
16:01.27ckknightcyrillic
16:01.37Gnarfozfor you, yeah
16:01.40Gnarfoz:P
16:01.42ckknight...
16:02.01Fisker-hey ckknight
16:02.02Stanzilla"da!"
16:02.03Gnarfozit's "kyrillisch" in german, I was not paying attention to what I typed there
16:02.07ckknighthey Fisker-
16:02.27GnarfozStanzilla: brrrnarf :p
16:02.50Stanzillawell "da" is russian :(
16:03.00Gnarfozif that's all you know then... move along :D
16:03.06GnarfozI know that much, too :P
16:03.55Gnarfozyay, it's Lithuanian.
16:04.27Pneumatusthats baltic, not eastern european :P
16:04.28StanzillaNiet!
16:04.34BelazorIt's "union of soviet commie bastards" as a collective :p
16:05.30cncfanaticsis there a macro command to mark my target ?
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16:06.01Pneumatusyou can either bind a key to a raid target icon, or make your own macro
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16:06.13Pneumatusdefault bindings has options for each different raid mark
16:06.31cncfanaticsI want to make a macro that mind controls my target & marks it for raz
16:07.22Pneumatusthen you probaly want /run SetRaidTarget("target", i)
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16:07.30Stanzillacncfanatics: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetRaidTarget
16:07.34Stanzilladamn Pneumatus :(
16:07.34cncfanatics<3
16:07.42Pneumatuswhere i is 0 to clear, or 1-8 for icons
16:07.53cncfanaticscheers, perfect
16:08.23GnarfozPneumatus: eastern European is wrong, granted. northern European however is correct :D
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16:20.11ckknightnew poll: http://www.wowace.com/polls/which-weighs-more/
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16:21.20hastethe bag of lead is easier to carry as it doesn't take as much space as the feathers
16:21.25Gnarfozfucking imperial bs
16:21.25Gnarfoz:p
16:21.30hasteso I would call it "lighter" based on that
16:21.42ckknightyou don't know how densely it's packed
16:21.56profalbert"kilograms" ftw
16:22.05hastewe also lack a FLAWED POLL option
16:22.22Gnarfozobviously this is an experiment in stupidity.
16:22.23Gnarfoz:p
16:22.44Gnarfozprofalbert: <3
16:22.46ckknightcorrect, Gnarfoz
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16:22.49profalbertthat's why it needs a third option: "don't know"
16:23.06Gnarfozfourth: "don't care"
16:23.24Gnarfozfifth: "fuck off damn nerds" :P
16:23.26profalbertor "No, I'm not an absolute morn"
16:23.45profalberts/morn/moron/
16:23.55ckknightmaybe I should change it to kg
16:23.56Stanzilla17:21:44 ∙ Stanzilla: "show results" will win
16:23.58Gnarfozgood example there, profalbert
16:24.12GnarfozStanzilla: kekeke
16:24.16Pneumatus"what the hell is 1lb" should be an option
16:24.20Gnarfozneeds a fake "show results" option. ;D
16:25.23ckknightPneumatus: it's 1 kg now
16:25.36Pneumatusyou americans know about kilos?
16:25.39EthanCentaurainew poll: Q) Are you stupid?  1) Yes  2) No  3) Show Results
16:26.00Pneumatusare the bags of equal weight, ckknight?
16:26.32AckisWorkweight depends on gravity, mass does not iirc
16:26.43Pneumatusi guess a bag capable of holding 1kg of lead would need to be more robust than one to hold 1kg of feathers
16:26.45Stanzillauh clever ackis :>
16:26.46GnarfozAckisWork is dum
16:26.51Pneumatushowever, the feather bag would need to be bigger
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16:27.06Gnarfozit's a bag of, not a bag capable of holding
16:27.07Gnarfoz:p
16:27.24profalbertPneumatus: I think you can pack feathers pretty compact
16:27.32profalbertit's just a matter of pressure
16:27.32Pneumatusyes, but the bag and its contents are the subject of which weighs more
16:27.43Gnarfozmhhh I see where you're going with this
16:28.02Pneumatusand the 1kg implies the amount of lead/feathers
16:28.20ckknight_bah
16:28.38ckknight_Pneumatus: I'm 60 kg
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16:28.45Gnarfozyou're skinneh
16:28.50ckknight_I know that much
16:28.52Pneumatusalso, are both bags under the same gravitational pull?
16:28.54Gnarfozor not tall :>
16:29.00profalbertbtw: will I crash the server again when commiting a .pkgmeta with a "manual-changelog"-line now?
16:29.35ckknightPneumatus: do I need to change the poll to "which has more mass?"
16:29.37ckknight:P
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16:29.42ckknightprofalbert: yes, but try anyway.
16:29.47profalbertckknight: you do
16:29.58profalbertckknight: and ok ;)
16:30.05Pneumatusthere are many unspecified variables which i can't make a decision from!
16:30.12Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * v2.3 IHML.toc: [+1 commit] Bump version to 2.3
16:30.17Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 04v2.3 * ffbb749 /: [new tag] Tagging as 2.3
16:30.23profalbertwhich leads to the "don't know"-option
16:30.24GnarfozI think EthanCentaurai's suggestion was the most succinct one
16:30.30ckknightwhat was his?
16:30.36ckknightoh, the stupid one
16:31.16Pneumatusis one of the bags on the moon, and one on earth?
16:31.24Pneumatusor at varying heights?
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16:32.09ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/polls/which-has-more-mass/
16:32.24renchapyour mum ?
16:32.26Stanzillathat's cheating, ck
16:32.36ckknighthow is that cheating?
16:32.44Pneumatusok, are the bags identical? :P
16:32.51Stanzillaavoiding problems is cheating :P
16:33.57Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.6.5-6-gb1ad99c / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] try manual changelog again
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16:37.24IndustrialWhat addons are there if thats even possible to repeat enchanting stuff? I gotta level my enchanting but I cba clicking the confirm tghing all the time
16:37.30Industrialwtb an easy queue :p
16:37.54SunTsu.o0( Geeks - driving people mad since er the world began )
16:38.03Repo10bank-stack: 03pr0ff * r120 / (2 files in 1 directory): Add ruRU locale
16:38.39profalbertckknight: so am I the only one using the manual-changelog-option?
16:38.46ckknightpossibly
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16:38.49ckknightI'm gonna fix the issue
16:38.54ckknightso keep things as-is
16:39.01profalbertok, shall I create a ticket?
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16:54.01GnarfozXinhuan the Insane
16:54.09Gnarfozalso, Ackis the Insane, probably
16:54.10Gnarfoz:D
16:54.16Xinhuannot really
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16:54.26Xinhuannone of us ever reached Honored with pirates
16:54.31Xinhuanu only need Friendly to complete the quest
16:56.17Gnarfozyou probably have to *still have* Honored
16:56.26Gnarfoznot some time in the past reached honored
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16:59.37ckknightprofalbert: fixed!
16:59.51profalbertcheers at ckknight
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17:04.48Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.6.5-7-g477c7ac CHANGELOG.txt: [+1 commit] change changelog so something changed
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17:07.47steevso, i've enabled the gear manager on ptr... how the hell do i use it?
17:07.58Axodiousopen your character pane
17:08.04Axodioustheres an icon of armor in the top right
17:08.06steevright
17:08.09steevclicked that
17:08.11Axodiousput on the gear you want
17:08.14Axodiouscick save
17:08.15steevcan't drag anything into the boxes
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17:08.26Axodiousit works the same way macros do
17:08.34Axodiousyou set up the gear you want and click save
17:08.41Axodiousthen it pops up an icon box selection screen
17:08.58Axodiouseach spot is a different gear set you can use
17:09.13steevahh, hm, okay
17:10.03Axodiousspeaking of that, wonder if they fixed where the items go yet
17:10.21Axodiouswhen i was switching gear in my bank, it wasn't putting the items where they were
17:10.29Axodiousit was putting them in the next available slot
17:10.42steevlets see if i can even get logged in
17:10.47steevwindows 7 is not happy with my video card
17:10.57Axodiousnvidia?
17:11.01steevyeah
17:11.11steevi refuse to use ati
17:11.12Axodiousnvidia cards are never happy with beta stuff?
17:11.16Axodious-?
17:11.27sb|workhm
17:11.30sb|workwin7 is fine with nvidia
17:11.45steevwell the issue is the card itself - doesn't support tri buffering
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17:11.49steevand wow kept enabling it
17:11.53sb|workget a new card then :p
17:12.00steevits a spare box
17:12.05steevim at work
17:12.11steevits pci only
17:12.15Axodiouso_o
17:12.15sb|workuh
17:12.17steevalready rma'd the card once
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17:12.31steevits an 6600 or 6800 something
17:13.17Axodiousif warcraft keeps enabling triple buffering, then it's a warcraft issue
17:13.19Axodiousi've been having random settings turn off/on every now and then on the ptr
17:17.28steevahh, there we go
17:17.28steevdps, dw, pvp, and tanking all setup
17:17.36Axodiousmake sure you setup your bars too
17:17.41Axodiouser wait nvm
17:17.44Axodiousthats dual spec
17:17.49steevyeah
17:17.58steevnot worried about that so much
17:18.04steevi tank in my dps spec
17:18.09steevalmost
17:18.15Axodioussame with me as resto
17:18.20Axodiouson my sham
17:18.28steevunholy tank, unholy dps
17:18.40Repo10fu-bar_reagent-fu: 03Ackis 07master * v3.03-1-gfc22cb4 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] Some prep work for ptr testing
17:19.04steevyay, alt tabbing out of game causes video driver to hate me
17:19.25Axodiouslol
17:19.32Axodiousyou odnt have aero running do you?
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17:23.54steevmaybe
17:24.01steevi dunno, whatever the default windows 7 shite is
17:24.09steevabout to replace it with XP anyway
17:24.24steevone of our tools here at work doesn't work on 7, and no one wants to fix it so *shrug*
17:24.40sb|workwin7 is great :o i like it
17:25.06steevi might install it at home
17:25.14steevi have a 9600gt or some such there
17:25.45Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1554 embeds.xml: Remove un-needed items from embeds
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17:28.50Repo10alttab: 03Ackis 07master * v1.25 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Update .pkgmeta for libaboutpanel move and update toc to fix it.
17:28.55Repo10alttab: 03Ackis 04v1.25 * f979c2c /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.25
17:29.59Repo10querier: 03Ackis 07master * v1.7-5-g1e7618c Querier.toc: [+1 commit] Fix .toc with optdepts, update toc and version for PTR
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17:36.12durcynAckisWork: you might want to make sure your git username is set to what you want it to be
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17:57.02Repo10nostalgia: 03Ackis 07master * 0b11a60 / (10 files in 4 directories): [new, +2 commits]
17:57.05Repo0b11a60: Fix .pkgmeta
17:57.09Repo378d683: Initial commit
17:57.48Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5011 / (2 files in 2 directories): koKR Update
17:59.28steev@describe nostalgia
17:59.30Reposteev: http://www.wowace.com/projects/nostalgia/. Nostalgia. Just a small project that will be worked on once ARL rolls out. Will allow you to play sequences of boss encounters on demand using the in-game files. ie: It'll let me easily play the Rag speech...
17:59.52steevspiffy
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18:06.47Stanzillathe new BigWigs check is nice, I just noticed that 80% of my raid is using dbm :/
18:07.15selckinbigwigs was broken and slow to update at start of wrath
18:07.27selckineveryone i know that used bigwigs swapped to dbm then and sticked with it
18:10.13Grumi still prefer bigwigs
18:10.17steevsnap
18:10.20steevi got rejected :(
18:10.29steev<PROTECTED>
18:10.29Grumby a girl?
18:10.38Grumfail
18:10.43steevnaw, would have to approach one in order to :-P
18:10.52Grumgit branch girl?
18:11.00steevjust forgot to pull from the commit i did on my other laptop
18:11.03Grumgit checkout girl!
18:11.44Grumdon't pull the girl .. that is just wrong
18:11.44Funkeh`actually in the Uk pull is the word we use for score
18:11.44steevbut
18:11.44steevwhat Funkeh` said
18:11.44Funkeh`when you've pulled on a night out
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18:15.15Grumthat just says that all uk people are gay
18:15.25Grumor all uk girls actually men ...
18:15.27Grumand both ;)
18:21.53ArrowmasterClass@describe pitbull4-class-icons
18:22.04RepoArrowmasterClass: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4-class-icons/. PitBull4 Extras. PitBull 4 modules. Class Icon: Shows the class icon on frames. Race Icon: Shows the race icon (for players) or creature type icon (for mobs) on frames. Name Plate: Adds an extra bar. It can be colored...
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19:00.25Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r113 Skada.lua: Fixed the bugs I made yesterday.
19:08.49AckisWorkckknight: when did you make it that a library update would update the package for which uses it? because that's wicked :P
19:09.14ckknightthat's how it was designe
19:09.17ckknightdesigned*
19:09.20ckknightdid it actually work?
19:09.22AckisWorki didn't think it worked
19:09.23ckknightcool :P
19:09.23AckisWorkyes
19:11.39Repo10arl: 03Ackis * r1555 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update .pkgmeta and ToC.
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19:14.50SilowyiHey is there an addon that would let me keep track of my Mysterious Egg timers on my alts?
19:17.28ArrowmasterClass@project eggtimer
19:17.29RepoArrowmasterClass: http://www.wowace.com/projects/eggtimer/. EggTimer. Game: WoW. jokeyrhyme (Manager/Author). Updated: 9 days ago
19:17.31Fisker-[2009/03/06 20:17:24-5683-x6]: Skada-1.0\Skada.lua:823: attempt to index global 'set' (a nil value)
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19:17.31Fisker-(tail call): ?:
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19:20.15Fisker-ya hear me Zarnivoop ?
19:22.41AckisWorkFisker-: l2pastey
19:23.47Fisker-l2fu AckisWork
19:24.13Repo10project-6529: 03Ackis * r80 / (3 files in 1 directory):
19:24.15RepoFix .pkgmeta, etc so this doesn't blow up on me down the road if I start on it again, or if someone picks it up.
19:27.25Repo10project-6529: 03Ackis 07master * 96b90d7 / (9 files in 2 directories): [new, +1 commit] Convert to git, don't need to save history.
19:27.40Pneumatuswhy would you convert an abandoned addon to git :o
19:27.48pompy~seen Zeksie
19:27.50purlzeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust211.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 23d 2m 38s ago, saying: 'mmm. not had it not buffing for me. i'll check out later tho. about to run naxx tho. so gonna be semi afk from here mostly'.
19:27.51Pneumatuseven less reason for someone to pick it up :P
19:27.59AckisWorkPneumatus: I want to pick it up one day
19:28.24Pneumatusaha
19:28.51AckisWorkit's just abandoned because I think it's a good idea still, but I don't have the dev time to learn what i need to learn for it
19:31.01ramoz@project procjet-6529
19:31.02Reporamoz: No project found that matches 'procjet-6529'
19:31.11ramoz@project project-6529
19:31.12Reporamoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-6529/. Welfare Epics. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 minutes ago
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20:01.19StanzillaBrew of the Year is no longer required for the Brewmaster meta-achievement.
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20:01.20Stanzillahahahah
20:01.24StanzillaQQ successful
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20:24.14Gnarfozhahaha
20:24.15Gnarfozalso
20:24.20Gnarfozpally auras baseline 40y
20:24.21Gnarfozfinally
20:24.29Gnarfozfucking assholes :P
20:24.39Gnarfozand BOO sacred shield nerf
20:24.40Axodious<- still waiting for elemental changes
20:24.40Gnarfoz:(
20:24.45ZarnivoopSunTsu: using r113?
20:24.59Gnarfozoh lawd, why are they nerfing holy? xD
20:25.11Axodiousi wonder, Gnarfoz :P
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20:26.46Gnarfozalso, warriors get a divine shield remover?>
20:26.47Gnarfozwtf
20:26.47Gnarfoz:D
20:26.49NeoTron_"Enchant Weapon - Blade Ward *New Enchant* - Permanently enchants a weapon to sometimes grant Blade Warding when striking an enemy. Blade Warding increases your parry rating by 200 and inflicts 600 to 800 damage on your next parry. Effect can stack up to 5 times and lasts 10 sec. This enchantment requires the wielder is at least level 75." wait what?
20:27.03NeoTron_up to 1000 parry rating or does the damage stack?
20:27.06Gnarfozall in all, very weird :D
20:27.16Gnarfozno, the entire effect stacks, neon
20:27.17GnarfozNeoTron_:
20:27.19VonhintenHOME`diminishing returns will own that
20:27.23Gnarfozirrelevant.
20:27.45Gnarfozit's so that it increases the parry chance until you parry
20:27.52Gnarfozand then the stack drops again
20:27.58Gnarfoz(or 10 seconds go by)
20:28.16Gnarfozlike the "crit rating increased until you crit" trinket from BC
20:28.22Gnarfozthingamajig
20:28.24Gnarfozwhatever :D
20:28.32NeoTron_aha
20:28.51Gnarfozat least that's what this looks like to me. :D
20:28.53durcynyou mean Darkmoon Card: Useless
20:29.06PrimerAckisWork: pvp thing in IHML doesn't work
20:29.09Primerjust got pwned again
20:29.37Gnarfozdurcyn: yup, but it was about the mechanics :D
20:29.38NeoTronnerf to boneshield to 2 minutes. that fucking blows
20:29.51AckisWorkPrimer: how doesn't it work? spent a week or so testing the thing
20:30.06NeoTronreverted BCB and necrosis nerfs though
20:30.08stolenlegacy~api UnitInVehicle()
20:30.09purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitInVehicle()
20:30.27stolenlegacyumm..yeah, wowwiki doesn't have any info on that function
20:30.36Gnarfozso use !api
20:30.37Gnarfoz:p
20:30.41Gnarfoz!api UnitInVehicle
20:30.41lua_botDocumentation for 'UnitInVehicle' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitInVehicle
20:30.49Gnarfozboo!
20:30.50Gnarfoz:p
20:31.00Gnarfoz~remulate
20:31.01purlI come bearing a gift.  I'll give you a hint.  It's in my diaper, and it's not a toaster.
20:31.39robotuschlol
20:31.49robotuschJust had a GM watch our Sapph fight xD
20:31.56stolenlegacyGnarfoz: This function has not yet been documented. You could document this function by logging in, and clicking the 'Edit' tab.
20:32.04stolenlegacyyep, sure
20:32.59stolenlegacywell, got it^
20:33.06stolenlegacyjust used it on someone in a chopper
20:33.13stolenlegacyreturns 1 if unit is in vehicle, nil otherwise
20:33.57robotuschomg
20:34.02robotuschmost awesome GM evar
20:34.12stolenlegacywhy?
20:36.17ArrowmasterClasswhat did you expect the function to do?
20:36.24ArrowmasterClassthe name kinda documents it
20:36.52robotuschlol
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20:37.01robotuschnow we've all been turned into pirates
20:37.48AeyanHeh, just read the DK tank nerfs with the latest build.
20:37.52AeyanRabblerabblerabble
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20:40.18NivFreaklol
20:40.21NivFreakthey yanked brew of the month?
20:40.32NeoTronboneshield feels very mediocre for a 2 minute cooldown
20:40.54AeyanYeah, that change hurts a lot
20:40.58NivFreakNeoTron: probably because you have so many CDs ;)
20:41.05AeyanCombined with all the other nerfs, it's pretty brutal
20:41.24NeoTron2 minute cooldowns are bordering on "never use unless absolutely needed" imho. 1 minute cooldowns are just fine
20:41.27NivFreakI haven't been keeping up tbh
20:41.59robotuschhttp://sarth3d.dk/WoWScrnShot_030609_213612.jpg >:]
20:42.09NeoTronartificial patchwerk tank tests ftl
20:42.10Groktaryeah, i think it's mostly the CD chaining
20:42.52Groktarcan you imagine blizzard trying to balance something like Brutallus against this cd chaining?
20:43.02AeyanWell, they nerfed Lichbourne too
20:43.06AeyanSo that's out of the chain, hehe
20:43.15AeyanAnd they nerfed a lot of passive defensive stuff too
20:43.36ramozrobotusch: what did he give you?
20:43.44Groktarthey could probably lower the CD on lichborne now
20:44.07Axodiousno more broken of death! :D
20:44.23Aeyan-5% off of frost presence's magic protection, -10% parry from blade barrier (5% damage reduction now)
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20:45.06AeyanDouble vampric blood CD, WotN (blood talent) can only go off every 15 seconds
20:45.13AeyanThey nerfed every kind of DK tank bad, hehe
20:45.28Groktari hope they add more passive mitigation
20:45.38NeoTronwithout the miss chance lichborne is purely pvp I suppose
20:45.38Groktaran across the board -10% dmg taken
20:45.46PrimerAckisWork: well, mage targeted me in Thunderfall, I started running away (I'm a fucking holy priest)
20:45.50Groktarbecause pretty soon dks will bea t the armor cap
20:46.00Groktarand that's bad, especially since it could happen in t8
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20:46.21PrimerI targetted him, the IHML button never changed from the snowball you throw at the jormungar
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20:46.57Primerhe killed me
20:46.57Primerthe end
20:47.01pentium166nerf AckisWork imo
20:47.14Primerin the IHML config I have the "PVP" item set to /cast Guardian Spirit
20:47.27Primerwhich basically gives me more time to run away
20:48.15AckisWorkPrimer: k I'll look into it next week
20:48.23AckisWorkPrimer: was working for me with my "w00t" macro
20:48.39AckisWork(they're still gonna kill me with guardian spirit up so I'll w00t them)
20:49.18Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5012 Extras/Version.lua:
20:49.21RepoInclude some old prefixes so that we don't flag people running slightly older versions as not having BW at all.
20:49.48Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5013 Extras/Version.lua: Remove debug variable.
20:49.48Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r114 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fixed dps summary value.
20:49.51Repo"Delete segment" now refreshes bar list.
20:50.14NeoTronI wonder if http://ptr.wowhead.com/?spell=63560 will be worth using
20:50.21NeoTronno cooldown but uses an unholy glyph..
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20:52.00SunTsuNeoTron: didn't talent say that it's channeled?
20:52.01StanzillaI wonder if we now have more BigWigs users in the raid after that last commit :P
20:52.06NeoTronit's instant
20:52.16vhaarrStanzilla: yes you will have :p
20:52.46steevhttp://woodgears.ca/eyeball/ is kinda fun
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20:54.15AckisWorkStanzilla: only if that change gets tagged ;)
20:54.31vhaarror he runs alphas
20:54.47AckisWorkofft
20:54.50StanzillaI run alphas
20:54.51Stanzillanub
20:54.52Stanzilla:D
20:55.07vhaarr~whalenuke tagging
20:55.08purlACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around tagging with his mind powers.
20:55.53durcynthe only version that matters is HEAD.
20:56.13vhaarrI want a t-shirt that says "Give me HEAD."
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21:06.44NeeblerI want a cupcake
21:06.53PrimerAckisWork: Perhaps I don't have the right version? I know that I updated to the latest svn version, but I'm using curse client, so I don't know if it got reverted
21:07.02Neeblerred velvet, with creamcheese frosting
21:07.28Neeblernot much is better, in the existence of... everything
21:07.37NeoTronI wonder if I "have" to go frost for tanking in 3.1
21:07.41Primer## X-Curse-Packaged-Version: v2.3
21:07.52Neeblerall deathknights should be deleted from the game
21:08.06steevNeoTron: why would you?
21:08.17PrimerProject revision: @project-revision@
21:08.22Primerguessing that's a fuck-up?
21:08.37Primerfirst was from the .toc, second from the .lua
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21:09.37Primerbah, there's a pvp checkbox!
21:09.39Primerwtf
21:09.43PrimerI never saw that
21:10.00Repo10bloodthirst: 03yheen * r20 b-thirst.lua: Support for all locations in current release
21:10.10Primerand...it works
21:10.14PrimerAckisWork: nevermind
21:10.43AckisWorkPrimer: lol
21:11.14NeoTronsteev: because it'd be better than unholy?
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21:13.02Neeblerhttp://pinchmysalt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/img_3404-version-2-1.jpg
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21:13.51AckisWorkPrimer: I made that pvp stuff optional because I wasn't sure if everyone would want to use it
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21:14.22Repo10bloodthirst: 03yheen * r21 b-thirst.lua: sound bug fix xD
21:14.24steevNeoTron: think so?
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21:15.12vhaarrStanzilla: let me know if you run into any problems with the new version plugin please, we won't do a new release until it has gotten some testing
21:15.21Stanzillaokay
21:15.47vhaarror if you have any suggestions
21:15.53PrimerAckisWork: yup, good idea
21:16.18NeoTronI don't know for sure. I mean lichborne nerf hits frost too but I guess it comes back to which of the "tanking talents" are best
21:17.11NeoTronnever liked playing frost much
21:17.13pentium166for all their claims that they don't want to have a tanking tree, a pvp tree, a dps tree, they aren't really following through with that at all for the classes where it's an issue
21:17.34NeoTronall trees are usable for tanking
21:17.42NeoTronbut one will be better most likely
21:17.54NeoTronquestion is if it's "better enough" to make it mandatory on new/hard content
21:17.59Demonehey guys, does anyone know of a good replacement for xloot?
21:18.05Demonesince its no longer maintained, loved that addon
21:18.31AckisWorkDemone: is it broken?
21:18.48DemoneAckisWork: on my machine it seems to be
21:18.48NeoTronit works fine in fact
21:18.52Demonei cant even get the anchors up
21:18.55durcynDemone: Butsu
21:19.16AckisWorkDemone: odd I use it and it works for me w/o issue
21:19.19Demonecant get the old xloot anchors, nothing, seems like its not even finding the addon (this is in wotlk)
21:19.32durcynDemone: no, really, go install Butsu and be happy.
21:20.19NeoTronit seems like Butsu replaces XLoot but probably not XLootMaster...?
21:20.30Demonedurcyn: i like xloot, so if its something wrong, id like to figure out why its not working
21:20.44NeoTronDemone: seriously though, xloot works great for me - no errors or anything
21:21.15RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/markup-types/ by ckknight
21:21.41Gnarfozbutsu as an replacement for the xloot SUITE is a retarted suggestion.
21:21.48DemoneNeoTron: hmm
21:21.58DemoneI would love to figure out why its not for me
21:22.22Gnarfozthere was a rewrite underway which never got finished, IIRC
21:22.30Gnarfozmaybe you have one of those versions?
21:22.30genetik-butsu does nothing other than change the loot window frame.. it's pretty much only a re-write of XLootGroup
21:22.45GnarfozI thought butsu was Loot window
21:22.48DemoneGnarfoz: sonnofa...
21:22.51Gnarfozas teksLoot was XlootGroup
21:22.52Demonethats what that was all about
21:22.56Demonei have the damn rewrite version
21:22.56durcyngnarfoz is correct.
21:23.00genetik-hmm.. ah, yes
21:23.00Demonei thought it was just an update one
21:23.01genetik-you're right
21:23.04genetik-i get them confused
21:23.21Gnarfoz@project xloot
21:23.22RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/xloot/. XLoot. Game: WoW. Xuerian (Manager/Author), Dridzt (Author), mikk (Author). Updated: 50 days ago. Tickets: 2/11
21:23.33Gnarfoznot sure, but I think that's what I have :>
21:23.41Gnarfozthat page also links to the other parts of it.
21:23.43Axodious<3 xloot
21:24.06Mikkteksloot = rewrite from scratch, make it look sorta like xlootgroup
21:24.17NeoTrongenetik-: s/XLootGroup/XLoot/
21:24.23NeoTronXLootGroup is the group roll replacement
21:24.30NivFreakI hate xlootgroup
21:24.31NivFreak:)
21:24.34NivFreakand xlootmonitor
21:24.42NivFreakxloot/xlootmaster I love
21:24.43genetik-NeoTron: yeah, i was confusing teksLoot with Butsu
21:24.43Axodiousi like all of xloot
21:24.48Axodiousi hate default loot roll box
21:24.49Axodioustoo bulky
21:24.59Repo10ag_unitframes: 03andreasg * r694 / (6 files in 5 directories):
21:25.02RepoReplaced totem icons with totem bar, I like it better, but complain if you're angry!
21:25.04NivFreakthat and master looting with the default is obnoxious
21:25.06NivFreakper group what?
21:25.14Gnarfozper group is totally wtf
21:25.15Gnarfoz:D
21:25.26Axodiousshould be class imo
21:25.35NivFreakyep
21:25.39Gnarfozsomething that bothers me about xlootmaster though is that it stops working when you change the loot threshold after a boss has been killed
21:25.39NivFreakwhich is what xloot does
21:25.42Gnarfozand removes its hooks :<
21:26.01ulicdid someone say xloot was broken?  I'm pretty sure I use it on 3.0
21:26.14Gnarfozulic: hello, your belatedness.
21:26.15Gnarfoz:P
21:26.24ulicthat's me!
21:26.25Gnarfozkill boss, raid moving on to continue clearing trash... can't switch back to group loot until I'm done masterlooting stuff :)
21:26.28genetik-hmm.. maybe that's what my loot distribution guy was talking about
21:26.39Axodiousxloot works fine atm
21:26.42NivFreakGnarfoz: lately I've not had that problem
21:26.44NivFreakI think it was fixed
21:26.47genetik-i switched it to group after a boss and he complained that he couldn't finish handing out loot
21:26.49Gnarfozthat's not even a bug
21:26.52NivFreakI do remember having it before though
21:26.52Gnarfozit's by design ^^
21:27.48NeoTronof course then you can use Magic Looter to keep ML during trash but without the pain of manually looting items to the disenchanter :P
21:27.58GnarfozNeoTron: bad pimping
21:28.09Gnarfozthat's a different problem, really.
21:28.13NeoTronNivFreak: afaik it's not fixed - xlootmaster likely onlt enables itself when the loot threshold = master
21:28.30genetik-we're going to be trying magic looter out next week
21:28.31GnarfozMagicLooter spares me two clicks, that might be great
21:28.31Gnarfozbut
21:28.38Gnarfozit doesn't extend the range of Master Looter
21:28.43NeoTronGnarfoz: yes and no. Main reason to run !master during trash is because it's annoying to master loot trash (the giving item to DEer part).. at least for me
21:28.46Gnarfozi.e. if the raid moves away from me quickly enough
21:28.55Gnarfozthey will get group loot popups
21:28.59Gnarfozbecause I'm too far away
21:29.01NeoTronindeed
21:29.02Gnarfozthat sucks big time :P
21:29.07Gnarfozand can't be helped by addons
21:29.10NeoTronthe range issues sucks
21:29.12genetik-that happens all the time from noth -> heigan
21:29.17NeoTronnaxx and hyjal especially
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21:29.36Gnarfoznah
21:29.39Gnarfozerr yeah.
21:29.48NeoTronat least I haxored XLootMaster to allow MagicDKP to get loot events even if the recipient uis out of range :P
21:29.55NivFreakyea
21:29.57NivFreakwhich is sexy
21:30.00Gnarfozthe faster menu traversal (or lack thereof) MagicLooter could give me is probably neat, but as I mostly carry the greens myself (even though I'm not the DE'er), it's basically just loot -> loot to self anyway
21:30.19NeoTronGnarfoz: sure but not even barely seeing the window is pretty hot
21:30.26NeoTronit's a small gain but it's nice still
21:30.36NeoTronI imagine a world where we get epic gem drops and HoD equivalents again
21:30.44NeoTronI hated looting that shit
21:30.46Gnarfozyeah, but then again, we just switch back to group loot as soon as possible :>
21:31.05Gnarfozit's amazing how many addons exist to solve small issues with the loot system
21:31.08Gnarfozblizz should notice imho! :p
21:31.24NeoTronthe most annoying issues can't be fixed unfortunately
21:31.25GnarfozPassLoot, MagicLooter, XLootMaster
21:31.30NivFreakShattering Throw *New Skill* - Throws your weapon at the enemy causing [ 50% of AP + 12 ] damage (based on attack power), reducing the armor on the target by 20% for 10 sec, and removing any invulnerabilities. 25 Rage, 30 yd range, 1.5 sec cast, 5 min cooldown
21:31.34NivFreakdamn that's hot
21:31.38NivFreakwtb
21:31.38Gnarfozmasterloot by class would be a start
21:31.42NeoTronbut man loot received SHOULD be a raid / party wide event not some stupid chat text
21:31.49GnarfozHoD style fucking items could be solved somehow
21:31.54NeoTronPassLoot - can't you opt to auto-pass on loot now?
21:31.54genetik-NivFreak: warrior hunter inc
21:31.56genetik-hehe
21:32.03steevwe just set the loot to master, with the threshold to epic
21:32.04NivFreakI CAN BREAK YOUR BUBBLES AND ICEBLOCKS
21:32.05NivFreakRUN
21:32.09GnarfozNeoTron: that's ALL loot + it is blanket
21:32.22Gnarfozit's only good for... no one because they want boss loot :D
21:32.38DemoneNeoTron: the correct xloot is v 354?
21:32.49NeoTronheck if I know. I use the SVN directly
21:32.54NivFreakPTRs are down eh>
21:33.18NeoTronanything newer than 354 is just localization issues so that should be fine
21:33.24Demoneits just wierd, i grabbed the latest one using curse client
21:33.39Demonebut i cant even get the xloot monitor and xloot rolls anchors up
21:33.49Demoneunless ive gone nuts and imagined it as this addon....
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21:34.41Odlawwhat does xloot do?
21:34.57NivFreakcleaner loot window
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21:37.11Odlawhrm.. someone had reported that xloot wasn't working with my passloot.  I didn't really think much of it, as passloot only listens for events really.  It doesn't close loot windows etc.
21:37.41Gnarfozboth work fine for me
21:37.44Gnarfoztogether, that is
21:37.54Demonei just liked the roller and stuff that came with xloot
21:38.00Demonebut its just not working and driving me nuts
21:38.03Odlawroller?
21:38.07NeoTronXLootMonitor
21:38.19NeoTronand XLootGroup
21:38.21DemoneWere the anchors and such removed?
21:38.23GnarfozXlootGroup
21:38.28GnarfozXlootMonitor has nothing to do with it
21:38.31Gnarfozno, they're still there
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21:38.35NivFreak"We also recognize that if we change DK cooldowns that their base mitigation would need to come up to compensate. We futher recognize that doing that too much leads to four tanks with the same exact health, armor and avoidance numbers. We don't want a world where the druid has Bear Wall and Bear Stand and Bear Block all of the same magnitude as the warrior, and some players would argue we are too close to that already."
21:38.39NeoTronI misparsed 'roller" as "rolling list of picked up loot"
21:38.52Gnarfozmeh ;P
21:38.58ulicmDemone: I'm using XLootMonitor without issues, and believe I have the anchors set.
21:39.00Odlawah
21:39.19NeoTronNivFreak: they have to be essentially the same .... too bad blizzard but that's the design you have to do
21:39.29Demoneok. lets see....  how to begin debugging this
21:39.43NeoTrondo you have ui error reporting on?
21:39.54Demonei think i might have turned it off, good point :-D
21:40.16NivFreakmy only complaints at the moment are that I have to use a stamina stacked druid or maybe unholy DK to pull of s3d with low risks, but this is such a minor thing
21:40.34NivFreakI'm a prot warrior, this has been my main since classic
21:40.39NivFreakwe've seen ups and downs
21:40.48NivFreakI would not trade my class for any other tanking class
21:40.58genetik-NivFreak: me either
21:41.01NivFreakI'd love to make a bit more/steady aoe threat sure
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21:41.12NivFreakbut making any is WAY ahead of where we were
21:41.30NivFreakI still remember doing timed heroic shattered halls runs at the start of TBC
21:41.40NivFreakI wished that was part of the requirement to key for karazhan
21:42.00NivFreakbad warrior tanks would fail it
21:42.04NeoTronNivFreak: or a warlock :P
21:42.18NivFreakNeoTron: hrm?
21:42.30NeoTronVoid walker is right now by far the best S3D tak
21:42.34NeoTrons/tak/tank/
21:42.41NivFreakoh
21:42.42NivFreaksure
21:42.49NivFreakwe won't do that though
21:42.51Gnarfozvoid walker sucks and randomly dies
21:42.52Gnarfoz:(
21:42.52NivFreakit's going to get the nerf bad
21:43.00NeoTronlikely not before 3.1
21:43.10NivFreakI guess s3d doesn't matter after that anyway
21:43.13Gnarfozgets knocked to hell knows where sometimes and just dies :D
21:43.20NivFreakGnarfoz: lava wall
21:43.25NeoTronGnarfoz: just have to know that he'll be standing in the lava for the most part
21:43.27GnarfozI'm not asking why
21:43.33GnarfozI know why
21:43.38NivFreakyou can tank him off the platform you know
21:43.39GnarfozI'm saying it happens and he dies because of it :D
21:43.39NivFreakright?
21:43.40NeoTronnot like it's unpredictable
21:43.50NivFreakyou just park him all the way off the platform
21:43.52NeoTronit happens and you plan for it :P
21:43.58Demonewhich section is the ui debug under?
21:44.00Gnarfozhow can you plan for something you can't counter? :p
21:44.06NivFreakGnarfoz: you can counter it...
21:44.07Demonethought it was under interface
21:44.11NivFreakdon't tank him on the platform
21:44.15NivFreaktank him off to the side
21:44.20Gnarfozelaborate?>
21:44.25Gnarfozthe platform has 4 open sides.
21:44.26Gnarfoz:p
21:44.35NivFreaklet me see if anyone has drawn a diagram
21:44.43Gnarfozmoving him from the platform makes him spew fireballs at everyone
21:44.45Gnarfoz:(
21:44.50Gnarfozor moving from the platform
21:44.54NeoTronDemone: Interface somewhere, not sure where off the top of my head though
21:44.56Demonenope, lua errors enabled
21:45.01Demoneyeah, i found it
21:45.08Demoneits under help, i thought it was under status
21:45.09NivFreakGnarfoz: no, he spews them at people OFF the platform
21:45.16NeoTronso you already had it enabled?
21:45.40NeoTronGnarfoz: just have the VW stand in the lava for tanking
21:46.02NeoTronDemone: you can check WOWDIR/Logs/FrameXML.log and search for XLoot and see if there are any errors
21:47.09NivFreakGnarfoz: http://elitistjerks.com/1112647-post515.html
21:47.14NivFreakno diagram
21:47.17NivFreakbut explained clearly
21:47.49NivFreakah
21:47.51NivFreakhere you go
21:47.54NivFreakhttp://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7519/os10.jpg
21:48.09NivFreakthat's the position I know people use
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21:49.56CIA-35cork: 03Tekkub 07master * re36b956 10/ modules/Mage.lua : Add mage focus magic - http://bit.ly/tYbKu
21:51.04RepoNew announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/wiki-creole-markup/
21:51.08Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r13 / (3 files in 1 directory): Continued UI and data development
21:52.25Repo10malygosflamer: 03stolenlegacy * r25 MalygosFlamer.lua: Fixed Bugs:
21:52.28Repo- If a pet class runs into the instance portal as a ghost (thus is resurrected) and they afterwards resurrect their pet, this no longer delays and/or prevents the post-wipe print of the results.
21:52.59Repo10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r5014 / (4 files in 3 directories): frFR Update
21:54.15NivFreakit's a shame that malygosflamer doesn't ignore failures that are a result of a death, and seems to have the same false reporting issues that malygoshelper can have
21:54.43Odlawthat's ok.. i like it when it reports a person dropping their stack cuz they suck and die.
21:54.44durcynit's a pointless mod anyway
21:55.02Odlawwhy do you think that?
21:55.29OdlawI found it immensly useful for learning 6m maly
21:55.37OdlawWe found out trouble spots and got them fixed
21:55.47stolenlegacyNivFreak: erm, are you sure? normally, it should not report failures while the person's drake is dead...
21:56.13stolenlegacyand, from my experience, if I die and my debuff falls of, it doesn't report me either
21:57.02NivFreakstolenlegacy: you get 1 failure for their stack when they die
21:57.07NivFreakor at least, you did as of last sunday
21:57.21stolenlegacywell, thanks for the report, i guess
21:57.26NivFreakstolenlegacy: the addon is amazing though
21:57.28NivFreakthanks for writing it
21:57.30stolenlegacymight be possible i messed up when i did the last few changes
21:57.43NivFreakstolenlegacy: are you parsing combat log for it, or checking buffs?
21:57.46NivFreakauras*
21:57.51stolenlegacyparsing combatlog
21:57.55NivFreakyea, I thought so
21:57.57durcynyou can't check auras until 3.1
21:58.05durcynbut SPELL_AURA_REMOVES shows the source GUID
21:58.11NivFreakI thought the aura problem was just with checking if it's self
21:58.12durcyns/S/D/
21:58.18durcynfuck you purl
21:58.38HirsuteWell, it did what you told it to.
21:58.41Hirsute>.>
21:59.12stolenlegacyi just do a for i=1, GetNumRaidMembers() and check using format("%s%d", "raidpet", i);
21:59.18NivFreakstolenlegacy: so I saw the same problem malygoshelper has from parsing the combat log, is sometimes it appears your stack dropped from a combat log point of view, but it doesn't
21:59.36stolenlegacyNivFreak: yeah, but i don't really think this is my/our mistake
21:59.48stolenlegacyi'd blame that on blizzard
21:59.51NivFreakit's just the method is not totally accurate
22:00.02NivFreakbut like I said
22:00.04NivFreakthanks for writing it
22:00.05stolenlegacywhat i'm wondering about are those false reports
22:00.06ShefkiCome 3.1.0 you won't have to bother with the Combat Log for checking your stack time.
22:00.07NivFreakit's really useful
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22:00.33ShefkiSince you'll be able to just scan the Auras and look for the one with "vehicle" as the caster.
22:00.45NivFreakstolenlegacy: I can tell you 100% that the last 6min maly kill we had, I got blown up and got a stack fade warning on the way down
22:01.01stolenlegacywell...
22:01.02NivFreakas did a couple others
22:01.05NivFreakwhich it DID fade
22:01.08NivFreakbut we were dead ;)
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22:01.11stolenlegacyit should check for the pet's health
22:01.12NivFreak<PROTECTED>
22:01.35stolenlegacybut there is a certain time space after the pet's death that still shows the HP it had before it recieved the killing blow
22:01.53stolenlegacysame problem i've got with the aura fades due to death in the combat log
22:02.03NivFreakah
22:02.08stolenlegacyat the time the aura fades, UnitHealth still returns the last health value
22:02.25stolenlegacythat's why malygosflamer stops reporting once malygos' hp drops below 50k
22:02.37stolenlegacysince that's the deadline i set to avoid debuff expired spam once malygos dies
22:03.07stolenlegacyso i'd blame those false reports on blizzard, again
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22:03.38stolenlegacyhmm wait
22:03.54stolenlegacylua> if xyz > 0 then print("1") else print("2") end
22:03.55lua_botstolenlegacy: luabot:1: attempt to compare number with nil
22:03.59stolenlegacyhmm
22:04.05stolenlegacyif the pet has already despawned
22:04.18stolenlegacyand i try to get it's guid
22:04.22stolenlegacyit should return nil
22:04.30NivFreakwell, I'm running it for every kill now
22:04.35NivFreakI'll check it out again on wednesday
22:04.49stolenlegacyyep, much appreciated
22:05.00NivFreakthanks to you, it fills a nice gap blizzard left
22:05.17stolenlegacycan you try adding a return false between lines 340 and 341, please?
22:05.39NivFreakexpected result?
22:05.53stolenlegacyjust making sure it's blizzards fault :)
22:05.59Demoneok, so the curse client seems to have gotten some stale xloot zips or something
22:06.01Demonewierd
22:06.03Demoneit workses :-D
22:06.05Demonetnx guys
22:06.13Demone( manually downloaded and it is indeed working fine )
22:06.30stolenlegacyso if i do "if function() then" and i don't have a return in my function
22:06.31NivFreakDemone: check the work directory if your curse client
22:06.39NivFreakDemone: might find an xloot folder there :)
22:06.39stolenlegacyit should assume nil as return value, shouldn't it?
22:06.51DemoneNivFreak: hrm, ill have to find that dir on mac ;)
22:06.56Demonethe mac curse client isnt quite as nice
22:07.01Demoneits come a ways, but has a long way to go
22:07.02NivFreakDemone: I'm talking about the mac one
22:07.15NivFreakDemone: go to the directory where the curse client is
22:07.16stolenlegacylua> function myfunc() print("myfunc runs") end if myfunc() then print("this") else print("that") end
22:07.17lua_botstolenlegacy: myfunc runs, that
22:07.23NivFreakand see if you have an xloot directory at the same level
22:07.24DemoneNiv: did.
22:07.25stolenlegacyhm, like i thought
22:07.28Demoneahh
22:07.30Demonegotcha
22:07.42stolenlegacyit's blizzard's fault :)
22:07.44NivFreakDemone: if you do update-all, or even just select a few addons and update
22:07.50NivFreakDemone: it wigs out and doesn't copy them
22:08.08NivFreakDemone: sometimes it works, sometimes it fails and writes them all to the same directory as the updater
22:08.18Demoneahh, gotcha
22:08.27NivFreakDemone: I think Kaelten said they decompress the zip there, then move it in place
22:08.33NivFreakDanSouthy: I assume there's some race condition
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22:12.13NeoTronVal'anyr Hammer of Ancient Kings - Equip Effect -- Your healing spells have a chance to cause Blessing of Ancient Kings for 15 seconds allowing your heals to shield the target absorbing damage equal to 15% of the amount healed.
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22:17.35stolenlegacylua> function myfunc() print("myfunc runs"); return true end if myfunc() then print("this") else print("that") end
22:17.36lua_botstolenlegacy: myfunc runs, this
22:17.52stolenlegacyNivFreak: it's definitely blizzard's fault
22:18.13stolenlegacythe only workaround i can think of is delaying the check by 1 second if the drake is below 20k health
22:18.41stolenlegacybut that would require a ton of memory for a rather small goal
22:19.00stolenlegacyoh well, time for me to get some sleep
22:19.05NivFreakstolenlegacy: was just feedback, I still love it
22:19.16NivFreakstolenlegacy: you might be able to do something for the summary though
22:19.55NivFreakstolenlegacy: just keep a record of drakes despawning, and then put some buffer in
22:19.55NivFreakit's quite obvious when someone dies and their stack fades
22:19.55NivFreakat least in combat
22:19.55NivFreakbut no always at the end
22:19.55NivFreaknot*
22:20.00stolenlegacyNivFreak: well, i could technically check 1 second later again whether or not the drake is still alive
22:20.11stolenlegacyand if it's not, remove 1 point from their failure list
22:20.19NivFreakyea
22:20.30NivFreakor just keep a table and build your summary at the end
22:20.31stolenlegacybut again, a ton of memory for little achieved
22:20.41stolenlegacyoh, i already do
22:21.10stolenlegacyall the fails are kept in the mflamer_faillist table
22:21.17stolenlegacywith the failor's name as key
22:21.22stolenlegacyand the value is the number of fails
22:22.04NivFreaksure, so if you added entries for the time each drake despawned, you could invalidate some of those at report time
22:22.11stolenlegacyonce the PostResult is triggered, i just do for v=1, GetNumRaidMembers() do - check for raid members one by one, get names, check whether an entry with that key exists, and if yes, add it to the output
22:22.38stolenlegacywell, i might just delay the increasing of the table value by 1 second
22:22.52stolenlegacythat should be more than enough time for the new hp value of the drake to register
22:23.17stolenlegacywait, i'll do that right now
22:23.20stolenlegacyso you can test asap
22:24.42NivFreakcool, wednesday is our next kill unless we have massive s3d failure
22:24.45NivFreakwhich is unlikely
22:25.02NivFreakusually 2-3 shot it
22:25.09NivFreakwe always need one stupid wipe it seems
22:25.21Shefki\
22:26.31stolenlegacyi'm just upping a drycoded version as alpha
22:26.36stolenlegacytoo tired right now to check myself
22:26.43stolenlegacyand probably added a ton of stupid mistakes
22:26.50stolenlegacybut incase i didn't you got something to test :)
22:26.55SunTsustolenlegacy: /nick stolenackis ;)
22:27.22SunTsuOK, now drycode away ;)
22:27.33NivFreakhaha
22:27.46stolenackis-NickServ- Nick stolenackis is now registered to your account.
22:28.15stolenlegacyis there a way to up it to the repo without it appearing in the revision list?
22:28.35stolenlegacydon't want to have a "missing" revision incase there are a few bugs with this version
22:28.54NivFreaknice, the next PTR update will have loot
22:29.00stolenlegacyNivFreak: interesting
22:29.03NivFreaksome is in now perhaps
22:29.10stolenlegacyeven though i don't play ptr right now
22:29.18stolenlegacybusy getting the best in slot crap for my resto drood
22:29.31stolenlegacyblanketing robes and lifebinders locket from maly25 today, yay :D
22:29.55NivFreakthe only BiS item I'm missing for my warrior is last laugh
22:29.58NivFreakwe've never had one drop =(
22:30.24stolenlegacyoh well, i'll just commit to my repo
22:30.29stolenlegacyand hope there aren't any bugs
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22:30.50NivFreakhaha
22:31.14Repo10malygosflamer: 03stolenlegacy * r26 MalygosFlamer.lua: Alpha:
22:31.17Repo- Adding to fail list delayed by 1 sec, due to checking for drake alive.
22:31.32stolenlegacynow guys, i need some testing done by you asap
22:31.51stolenlegacybut for the time being, i'm out
22:31.52stolenlegacybye
22:32.16steevanyone know the triple buffer option in Config.wtf ?
22:35.29AxodiousSET gxTripleBuffer "1"
22:37.02steevthanks
22:37.35steevhmm, thats not it either
22:38.40Axodiousmultisampling?
22:39.27steevmaybe - for some reason the computer just keeps rebooting when i try to load in to wow
22:39.53Axodiouslike, hard reboot:?
22:39.57steevyeah
22:40.09steevand its something in video
22:40.14Axodiousif you rma'd the card, could be a heating issue, ram or motherboard
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22:46.54Repo10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r50 Core.lua:
22:46.57Repo-maybe fix weirdness with poison graphics not refreshing when CP < DP
22:47.53RaydenUa guildmate says the aoe on vehicles and turrets in WG is more effect if you don't arc it as high
22:48.07Repo10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia 041.0.8 beta2 * r51 : Tagging as 1.0.8 beta2
22:48.41RaydenUnm
22:48.47RaydenUhe was just explaining it poorly
22:49.39steevAxodious: possibly, except it happens in any computer i use it in - i think the card is just shite
22:49.42steevits a bfg
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23:07.40Axodiousi had a bfg
23:07.42Axodiouswas great
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23:16.47StanzillaShefki / ckknight what do I need to do, to get my target healthbar colored by class for same faction players and by hostility for the others?
23:17.19ShefkiStanzilla: *shrug*
23:17.23Stanzilla:<
23:17.47Stanzillathat worked in pb3
23:17.58ckknighthack the code, Stanzilla
23:18.07Stanzillaawesome idea
23:18.28ShefkiI probably took it out when I added the stuff from PB3 becuase there were some stuuff that looked unnecessary to me.
23:20.23Stanzillahm :(
23:26.04CIA-35cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r160ce2f 10/ (Cork.toc modules/Warrior.lua modules/WarriorShout.lua): Add Vigilance to warrior modules - http://bit.ly/sF5R2
23:30.42SunTsuShefki: ah, now that you're here ;) Do you plan to support ButtonFacade on PB4's aura symbols?
23:31.00ShefkiSunTsu: Wasn't planning on it.
23:31.08SunTsuShefki: Damn ;)
23:31.37ShefkiSunTsu: I'm not sure how you can even do that.  They're not typical buttons.
23:34.03PrimerI've been having this argument with my guild leader (new guild, we split from the old guild) over loot council vs. "DKP" (in quotes because I don't want to use DKP proper, but something like it)
23:34.10PrimerI'm curious, what do most people use?
23:34.23ShefkiMy guild uses  EPGP
23:34.27Primerthe perception is that loot council is corrupt
23:34.35Primerand prone to elitism
23:34.35SunTsuShefki: Hm, there must be some way
23:34.54PrimerShefki: I'll look that up
23:34.58SunTsuPrimer: We just use /random with veto rights to every raid member
23:35.04DashkalWe use /roll and one contested roll per raid
23:35.30SunTsuDashkal: Yeah, that's our other rule ;)
23:35.40NivFreakPrimer: most people use DKP I think
23:35.50NivFreakPrimer: loot council is better, but breaks down a lot more often
23:35.51PrimerI think that makes sense
23:35.53SunTsuOr, if all contestants got one item already they can roll again
23:36.26DashkalWe treat tier pieces apart, but it's the same rule (a contested random purp doesn't make you skip a tier piece)
23:36.31PrimerI hate getting screwed by RNG though
23:36.45NeoTronPrimer: the main issue with LC in a normal setup, to me, is that it's time consuming
23:36.56Primerthere's that too
23:37.19Primerwe've had raid participants wonder why they seem to get passed up for loot more often than others
23:37.29Primerit's created this perception that some people > other people
23:37.39NeoTronthe main goal of LC is to, probably, advance the raiding
23:37.55Primerour guild leader is vehemently opposed to any form of credit based loot system
23:37.57NeoTronwhich typically means good player should get upgrade first and/or largest upgrades first etc
23:38.18NeoTronI think the higher tier raiders you have the more likely you are to be able to have functional LC
23:38.20ShefkiSunTsu: ButtonFacade is really made for actionbars.
23:38.22Primerwhich realistically serves to piss off the bad players :)
23:38.41PrimerI guess that's one form of attrition
23:38.48Primerthey leave, and you don't have to boot them
23:38.55DashkalI still get pestered from time to time to write a mod that helps detect best upgrade, but meh.
23:39.07NeoTronPrimer: right. problem is it's a "hard" thing to do (from a personal standpoint) so my guild ended up trying to be "fair" which in term sucked because a) we had no tracking, b) it took time to discuss loot
23:39.18NivFreakPrimer: the problem is that unhappy people tend to spread thier attitude, which also undermines confidence in LC
23:39.27NeoTronfor 90% of the gear it doesn't matter muchj - it's how to give out the zomgwtfbbq upgrades
23:39.32NeoTroni.e 2h wpn from KT for example
23:39.39PrimerNivFreak: that's the problem right now
23:39.56Primerwe've been lucky in that regard, actually
23:40.14NivFreakPrimer: I opt'd for DKP this time around after being both on the loot council side before (and run badly) and the SKG side (barely more than /random)
23:40.15Primerin 7 weeks of 25 man Naxx farming, we've had 4 turning tides
23:40.34NivFreakPrimer: the system has weaknesses, it's not 100% right, but at least there are fairly clear inputs/ouputs with DKP
23:40.45NivFreakpeople know what to expect
23:40.49NivFreakwhich reduces drama
23:40.57NivFreakless drama == more fun
23:40.59SunTsuNivFreak: The basic problem is: There's always unhappy people
23:41.01NivFreakwow is intended to create fun ;)
23:41.03PrimerNivFreak: my guild leader is concerned that people will cohort and whore gear
23:41.06SunTsuNo matter what
23:41.06NivFreakSunTsu: of course
23:41.15NivFreakPrimer: and they do
23:41.19NivFreakPrimer: and you stop them when they do
23:41.21ulicgive them candies
23:41.24NeeblerGlyph of Envenom -- Your Envenom ability no longer consumes Deadly Poison from your target
23:41.27Neebleroh wow
23:41.59SunTsuNeebler: awesome
23:42.09SunTsuThat really makes envenom useful
23:42.27SunTsuor indeed usable
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23:45.06Stanzillahttp://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=103503
23:45.09Stanzillathat's so cool^^
23:48.51ulicsound interesting, I'll look when I get home.
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23:49.54NeoTronso.. drunk GM? :P
23:50.20NeoTronor it was his last day and he decided to have some fun?
23:52.32Stanzillalooks like it :P

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