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00:05.24Repo10chinchilla: 03Shefki * r192 Ping/Ping.lua:
00:05.27RepoFix Ping module for 3.1.0 PTR.  MiniMapPing became MinimapPing.
00:09.22ckknightPneumatus: http://www.wowace.com/projects/hidelooted/pages/main/r4/source/
00:09.34Pneumatusthat definatly looks better imo
00:10.06ckknightalright
00:10.09ckknighteverybody wins
00:10.28Pneumatuswell, it now looks like the edit page, just without the edit stuff :)
00:10.38ckknightyea
00:18.23Axodiouswoo more ptr testing
00:18.47Axodious... woo more blue bar
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00:28.35Zyndromewoo more HURGH
00:28.37Zyndrome¯\(°_o)/¯
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00:40.45Repo10recountfailbot: 03Elsia * r4 RecountFailbot.toc: - Minor rewording of title in TOC file.
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00:47.40TradeMarkIgnis down lol
00:47.50TradeMarkdidn't take long
00:50.02Pneumatusreads like a tank and spank + stop casting before flamejets
00:50.52Pneumatusingvar the plunderer style
00:51.36Pneumatusat a guess, with a bit of moving so you dont activate the constructs around the edge
00:52.58TradeMarkis it bad practice to have one giant Lua file for an addon?
00:53.08TradeMarkI'd split it up a bit but I'm worried about locals not transferring etc
00:53.48TradeMarknote that "giant" at this stage is only 340 lines - but it will be getting considerably more complex shortly
00:58.29ckknightTradeMark: it's horrid
00:58.31ckknightbut I've done it
00:58.33ckknightand am not proud
00:59.54TradeMark:P well Im just looking at Omen in its 3000 line glory heh
01:00.13ckknightI structured PitBull4 reasonably sanely
01:00.18TradeMarkso are locals addon-wide? or just script-wide?
01:00.24ckknightfile-wide
01:00.28TradeMark:(
01:00.30TradeMarkmakes it tricky
01:00.39ckknightthen you're doing it wrong :P
01:00.39Xinhuanits your preference TradeMark
01:00.46ckknightXinhuan: ?
01:00.47HirsuteTradeMark: Depends on where they were defined as local, they may only be function-wide.
01:00.58Xinhuani mean whether he prefers one file or many files
01:01.01ckknightah
01:01.01ckknightyea
01:01.12ckknightI like to keep things in small modules if possible
01:01.17ckknightalright, I'm done for the day
01:01.23Xinhuantrying to share locals across multi files, you should just use a table
01:01.27Xinhuanlike myaddon.blah
01:01.31TradeMarkwell it's probably my Lua nubness but I store things like state in file-scoped locals
01:01.53Xinhuanyeah well its not too difficult to transfer those file scope locals to myaddon.blah
01:02.00TradeMarkI see
01:02.01Xinhuanjust incurs a table lookup penalty
01:02.06TradeMarklocals perform better though yeah?
01:02.12Xinhuanyes of course
01:02.12TradeMarkhmm
01:02.39Xinhuanperformace penalties are usually irrelevant unless its in a OnUpdate
01:03.52Repo10pit-bull: 03Shefki * r1883 Aura/Filter.lua: Somehow I missed Improved Wing Clip in the 3.1.0 PTR fixes.
01:04.00Repo10recountthreat: 03Elsia * r36 Threat_Mode.lua: RecountThreat:
01:04.03Repo- Fixed total bar to show 100% threat of current aggro holder as intended.
01:05.28Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4997 / (4 files in 1 directory): tweak
01:05.36TradeMarkok another question: I'm writing a "timer"-esque addon, that should update displayed timer values a few times every second, at the least. assuming the code which generates the numbers is fast, is there a "best" event to update the timers on?
01:05.58TradeMarkI'm thinking OnUpdate, but it only really needs to happen in combat so COMBAT_LOT_EVENT might be enough
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01:07.05Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r4998-release * r4998 : Tagging as r4998-release
01:08.22TradeMarkmeh I'll try OnUpdate and assess if it's too slow or not
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01:21.38NivFreakwhy in the hell is feign death a UNIT_DIED event...
01:22.21Xinhuanso that addons can't abuse it to show that a enemy player feigned
01:22.53Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r4999 Ulduar/BigWigs_Ulduar.toc: BigWigs: Remove Curse metadata from the trunk toc...
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01:50.58Repo10item-level-dkp: 03ddumont 06gimpedguild * r40 priceList.lua: major noob price change.
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02:01.31Repo10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * v2.2-5-gfac93e1 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] Fix .pkgmeta
02:07.14Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r549 / (13 files in 3 directories):
02:07.16RepoRename Ulduar modules to Storm_Peaks to avoid confusion with the raid instance
02:10.36ulicbah, wonder if there is anyway for the curse client to delete the LittleWigs_Ulduar folder.
02:11.16Funkeh`the latest client will delete it if it's removed
02:11.25Funkeh`just wait a while until it's adopted
02:13.38ulicthe GetZoneText() and GetRealZoneText() all report as "Storm Peaks" outside the instances, even though the minimap says Ulduar, so I decided it wasn't worth the effort to try and get them to name the area something different.
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02:18.04Xinhuancos you really are in stormpeaks
02:18.13Xinhuanits just the subzone being called ulduar
02:18.17Arrowmasteryeah GetRealZoneText() would not ever change
02:18.36Arrowmasterand GetZoneText() changing would just be annoying
02:18.48Arrowmasterlike that cave in arathi
02:19.23Xinhuanthat vehicle fight in ulduar looks so cool
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02:21.29Xinhuando you think patch will come before april?
02:22.09BelazorWhen It's Ready, Soon (tm), etc
02:22.16Arrowmasteri hope not
02:22.30sacarascXinhuan: I think in April sometime.
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02:22.34ckknightyea, my guess is at least mid-April
02:22.36Arrowmasteri need to find a new server and new guild and get the raider and heroic raider achievements
02:22.53Xinhuani've decide immortal is a waste of time
02:23.00Stanzillalfg S103D
02:23.02Xinhuandecided*
02:23.35BelazorI don't have a guild either, never even been to Naxx ;p
02:23.46sacarascThere's a few Noblegarden achievements in the 3.1 patch, isn't there? That's around 12th of April.
02:24.20Arrowmasterthey added more?
02:24.23Xinhuanyes
02:24.27Xinhuanthey added lots
02:24.37Xinhuanbut its not part of the meta
02:24.41Xinhuanfor violet drake
02:26.54Stanzillaand for that reason, the patch must not be released before the festival
02:28.19Xinhuanit isn't part of the meta in the first place stan
02:28.56Stanzillathe whole festival is not a part of it?
02:29.13Arrowmasteryeah
02:29.21Stanzillaoh, cool
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02:31.05digmouseg'morning
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02:37.55Xinhuan16 min to make 390 Ink of the sea
02:37.58Xinhuanlol
02:38.03Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r550 Storm_Peaks (8 files in 1 directory): It's "The" Storm Peaks
02:41.15Xinhuanhmm windows7 doesn't come with a email program anymore? lol
02:41.49Belazornah, grab the windows live suite :p
02:43.27Arrowmasterwho the hell would use outlook willingly though
02:43.49Xinhuani use outlook express ;p
02:43.53Xinhuannot outlook
02:43.58ckknightWIndows Mail ftw?
02:44.12Arrowmasterthunderbird > outlook express
02:44.24Xinhuani'll look into that option
02:44.54Xinhuanand see if its able to import my 8 years of email
02:45.04Dark_Elfthat will suck i love outlook express
02:45.04Arrowmasterit is
02:45.18Xinhuani clicked a mailto: link
02:45.30Xinhuanand windows told me it can't complete the operation because no default mail program is installed
02:45.31Xinhuanlol
02:46.15ckknightI actually use Opera for most of my mail
02:47.49StanzillaXinhuan: yeah just get Windows Live Mail
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02:48.03XinhuanStanzilla: what advantages does that offer
02:48.14Xinhuani just want a client to display mail, not a new email address
02:48.23Stanzillait's your only choice if you want a microsoft email program that's free :p
02:48.35Stanzillaand the client is called Windows Live Mail
02:48.41Stanzillathe web service is Windows Live Hotmail
02:48.41Stanzilla:p
02:49.19Xinhuani see
02:49.24Xinhuanwhich is better?
02:49.56Stanzillado you want to compare a website with a program?
02:49.56TorhalProbably Thunderbird.
02:50.00Stanzillahttp://download.live.com/wlmail <
02:50.01Xinhuanand does either windows live mail or thunderbird allow you to view newsgroups?
02:50.15Arrowmasterthink thunderbird does
02:50.15Xinhuancos outlook express could
02:50.20Stanzillawindows live mail does
02:50.29Stanzillaand I think thunderbird can with an extension
02:50.43Arrowmasterdont think an extension is needed
02:50.58Xinhuani couldn't find any "feature list" on thunderbird website
02:51.24TorhalIt's built in
02:51.30Torhalhttp://opensourcearticles.com/introduction_to_thunderbird_8
02:53.08Xinhuanhmm
02:53.17Xinhuanundecided which client is better then lol
02:53.42CodayusJust use gmail like everyone else.  :-)
02:53.47Arrowmasterthe one without the mile long list of security holes?
02:54.31Xinhuangmail's only advantage is having all emails stored server side
02:54.32Arrowmasteri remember the days you could email bomb outlook express with a single line of javascript
02:54.53Xinhuani don't think outlook express is oneof the options here, its windows live mail hehe
02:55.11Arrowmasterwhich is outlook express with a new name i bet
02:55.43CodayusWell, that's not it's only advantage.  It's also a pretty solid client with a good UI - eg, tagging, searching, rules, and showing threaded conversations usefully.
02:56.17Arrowmastermeh i connect to gmail via imap and thunderbird
02:56.43Xinhuansomeone once complained you cannot sort gmail backwards by date
02:56.53Xinhuanthat is, show earliest messages first ;p
02:57.02CodayusMmm, the thunderbird client has never thrilled me.  It's...functional, but it's like they set out to make an outlook that didn't suck.  They suceeded, and that's great, but I prefer the gmail web interface.  :-p
02:58.26StanzillaI use postbox (thunderbird with a custom theme and some social feature shit) and windows live mail
02:59.30Xinhuanwhat is your conclusion stan?
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03:01.18StanzillaI love the WLM GUI and calendar integration
03:01.24Stanzillaand I have all my old contacts there
03:01.38Xinhuani think thunderbird has a calander addon too
03:01.45Arrowmasterit does
03:01.46Stanzillayes..sunbird
03:01.53durcynLightning.
03:01.54Stanzillaor so
03:02.16Stanzillasunbird is the standalone calendar I think
03:03.27Stanzillaand you could not use pop3 with free live mail accounts
03:03.31Stanzillathat changed in january
03:03.42Stanzillaso I used WLM for my hotmail and live.com addresses
03:04.13ArrowmasterWLM has its own connection format?
03:05.31Stanzillait uses a HTTP interface or so
03:05.42Stanzillawell it used to, now you can use pop3
03:05.53Arrowmasterbut no imap? fail
03:07.05Funkeh`I use wlm for my hotmail acc and TB for imap
03:07.20Funkeh`WLM doesn't have TB customizabi.ity to make me want to use imap
03:07.26Stanzillawlm does imap, just not for hotmail accounts
03:08.00Arrowmasterthat reminds me i need to setup my new email account in thunderbird
03:08.30Xinhuani take it that live mail accounts can't be used by anything but WLM client?
03:08.48Arrowmastertheres something kinda wrong about having 4 gmail accounts
03:09.55Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r47 / (3 files in 1 directory): alt lookup bugfixes
03:10.24StanzillaXinhuan: nah, now you can use it with every client over pop3
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03:13.34Funkeh`so now you can get infected by malicious adobe PDF's just by it creating the thumbnail
03:13.40Funkeh`What is that like 3-4 active exploits currently still unpatched?
03:13.47Funkeh`disgusting
03:14.36Arrowmastergood thing i 1. dont have adobes pdf reader installed 2. dont think ive ever seen a thumbnail of a pdf
03:15.06Funkeh`or
03:15.14Funkeh`by hovering over it for the stats to show
03:15.27Arrowmasternever seen stats either
03:15.40Arrowmastermust be features of adobes reader hooking explorer
03:15.58Funkeh`"features"
03:16.41Funkeh`they are fucking as moronic as MS thinking autorun is cool when they published default javascript on in pdfs
03:17.02Funkeh`http://blog.didierstevens.com/2009/03/04/quickpost-jbig2decode-trigger-trio/
03:17.23Funkeh`nice vid
03:17.36Funkeh`http://secunia.com/advisories/33901/
03:17.58Arrowmastersee those are like the reasons ill never use an MS email client
03:18.30taledenevery once in awhile i miss windows, like when i can't be bothered to reboot just to play fallout
03:18.34Arrowmastereven though they like everybody else have learned that preview windows for email that act as a full browser are bad
03:18.38taledenbut then another story like that comes up and i don't miss it one bit
03:18.47Arrowmastertaleden: vmware?
03:18.50taledenubuntu
03:19.05Arrowmasteroh you probably mean fallout3 and not fallout
03:19.10Funkeh`it's not really windows at this point
03:19.11taledenwell, yes
03:19.14Funkeh`it's just adobe
03:19.21Funkeh`at least MS are fast at patching
03:19.26Arrowmasterheh
03:19.29taledeni dunno, i think it's still a combination
03:19.32Arrowmasteryeah every month
03:19.38taledenadobe's incompetence at least wouldn't be as damaging if windows wasn't so easy to break
03:19.40Funkeh`adobe: "yeah guys um we cba patching at we will have one by 12 march", WHAT THE FUCK?
03:20.19Funkeh`Arrowmaster, I mean extreme cases like the conflicker exploit was broken out of the monthly schedule and done the enxt day
03:21.02Arrowmasterspeaking of windows viruses
03:21.30Arrowmasterdid you see the report about the trojan that removes the antivirus 2009 worm and others like it
03:21.44Funkeh`tigger/syzor?
03:21.52Arrowmasteryeah i think thats it
03:21.52taledenyeah, to steak stock trading passwords instead
03:21.56taledenfuture of malware right there
03:22.00taledensteal*
03:22.27Arrowmasteri found that funny
03:22.34Funkeh`yeah, saw it in the wild and mass mailed it to the av
03:22.37Funkeh`'s
03:22.47Funkeh`29/39 Vt last I checked
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03:23.33Funkeh`always cool to see them fight among themselves though
03:23.36Funkeh`smacktards
03:23.59Repo10sdkp: 03ddumont * r48 sdkp.lua: more alt fixes
03:24.02Funkeh`hey I only just realized that exploit is rated extrremely critical
03:24.08Funkeh`the higher possible
03:24.14Funkeh`highest*
03:24.49Funkeh`This is why I surf in a sandbox
03:25.02taledena rootkit that loads in safe mode, i'd say that's big
03:25.13TradeMarkhttp://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/why-the-media-shouldnt-use-google-images/
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03:26.23Funkeh`taleden, yeah, but it hasn't really hit off
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03:26.57Funkeh`I would say unfortunately because it sounds cool, but I guess it's a good thing
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03:28.21Funkeh`so, anyone trying out eset's new v4
03:29.34Codayusnod32 av?  Sure.  It works.  Doesn't suck.
03:29.56taledenbitch to configure, but effective
03:30.30Zyndromehttp://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/dragonballevolution/ , this is going to be so bad ... so bad
03:31.14Funkeh`I wouldn't say v4 needs any configuring at all
03:32.06ArrowmasterZyndrome: does that one have the flying H2?
03:32.44Zyndromedunno, I closed the trailer out of embaressment :(
03:33.28CodayusNice thing about nod32 - and v4 is included in this - is that's is MUCH lighter weight than equivalent offerings from Symantec and McAffee.  The former especially will just kill your machine.
03:33.52CodayusGranted, real time protection is going to have a performance impact, but wtf...  :-/
03:34.30Arrowmasterwho the fuck uses symantec or mcafee anymore?
03:34.46Arrowmasterthey always come out dead last in antivirus tests
03:34.47Zhinjiomy mom.
03:35.03Zhinjioanyone who buys a new computer and isn't smart enough to change it
03:35.10Zhinjioalot of corporate customers
03:35.11Funkeh`lol
03:35.14Zhinjioshrugs.
03:35.18CodayusArrowmaster: Lots, I'm afraid.  But if you think that's bad, my current employer had a virus outbreak before I got here, got a consultant to "fix" it.  He formatted everything and installed Trend Micro Internet Security Pro.
03:35.20Funkeh`good thing windows 7 comes with microsofts av
03:35.24Funkeh`even that is better
03:35.26Arrowmastertrue, my school has mcafee on their computers
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03:35.57StryderMBok, well, hrm again and alo
03:36.11CodayusThe home version, not even their business offering.  It's the most terrible security program I've ever seen.  :-/
03:36.36Dark_Elfwhatever u use dont get panda
03:36.37StryderMBbeen a while since i've been on IRC, had to make firewall play nice
03:36.55Funkeh`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfXlITVuW6E
03:37.00KilrooI think the last antivirus I used was AOL's one-year Kaspersky.
03:37.06Funkeh`sfw
03:37.08KilrooThen I went Linux.
03:37.14StryderMBi'm having a bit of trouble with bartender and vehicles, anyone savvy?
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03:37.49CodayusHas an integral firewall which, of course, screws our internal lan completely if turned on, so I turned it off.  Manually, on every workstation.
03:37.50Arrowmasteri use kaspersky and just do a little trick and reset the trial every 30 days
03:38.12Funkeh`lol...
03:38.13CodayusSo now it asks everyone who uses a workstation to renable it because WARNING YOUR WORKSTATION IS IN DANGER !!!11!
03:38.20Funkeh`I pay eset like a normal person
03:38.38Funkeh`they deserve the money..
03:38.52CodayusAnd of course any employee, no matter how new or how few permissions they have can re-enable it.  Weee.
03:39.18Funkeh`mcafee?
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03:39.58CodayusFunkeh`: Me?  My nemesis is Trend Micro Internet Security Pro.  Mcafee sucks too, but not that badly.  :-)
03:40.17Funkeh`who were you talking about?
03:40.33Codayus?
03:40.47Funkeh`what product :/
03:41.02CodayusTrend Micro Internet Security Pro.
03:41.10CodayusYes, that's a name.  :-/
03:41.15Funkeh`you use that shit in your business?
03:41.22Funkeh`even symantec has a better detection rate
03:42.49CodayusI know!
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03:43.43CodayusThe Powers That Be have decided that replacing it can wait until the subscription runs out, which is Oct 23, 2009.  I have the date marked on my calendar.
03:46.31DrENullYnso is this a decent place to discuss Bartender4 problems?
03:46.39DrENullYnor should i revert to forums?
03:47.46[draco]give it a try
03:48.17DrENullYnbartender4, v4.2.6 using a demolisher in WG the vehicle shows animation but does no damage
03:48.41DrENullYnreproducable on my machine, in Vista and XP
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03:49.06[draco]doesn't sound like it's bartender bug, though
03:49.23Arrowmasterdelete your cache folder in your wow folder
03:49.27DrENullYnwell, logging, disabling bartender, and logging back in works
03:49.36DrENullYnyeah, i've deleted cache folder
03:49.44DrENullYnthis happens even on a brand new install of WoW
03:50.14DrENullYnexiting, deleting cache folder, logging back in SOMETIMES fixes the problem
03:50.17Arrowmasterif it shows the animation and gcd then its not a bartender issue
03:50.20DrENullYnsometimes it does not
03:50.34Arrowmasterpeople experience issues with the default ui too
03:51.13DrENullYnwell, shortly before i joined, i ran a WG battle, got in demolisher, it wasn't working
03:51.25DrENullYnlogged out, disabled bartender, logged in, it worked
03:51.34DrENullYnlogged out, enabled bartender, logged in, didn't work
03:51.50taledendoes the demolisher itself do the firing animation?
03:51.51DrENullYni did nothing with the cache folder
03:51.57[draco]weird
03:51.58DrENullYnyes, does animation, no damage
03:52.14taledenif the vehicle animates, i can't think how bartender would interfere
03:52.17[draco]but if the animation is there, you triggered the spell
03:52.18taledeni couldn't fake that
03:52.29taledenit*
03:52.49Groktarhttp://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=34 <- took me 30 minutes to ah my glyphs this morning, lol
03:53.41DrENullYnwell, i'm not fully understanding what the trigger is in the cache folder that it needs to be repopulated
03:53.52DrENullYnnor do i understand why it works sometimes, but not all the time
03:54.18DrENullYni just know this is a random occurence that seems to be linked specifically to bartender
03:54.23Arrowmasterits not
03:54.29Arrowmasterit happens with the default ui too
03:54.35DrENullYnand reproduceable with bartender
03:55.07Arrowmasterit has nothing at all to do with bartender
03:55.13DrENullYnyes, i've talked to players and GMs about the vehicle bar and cache folder, i understand where you're coming from, Arrow, but i'm saying that it's more prominent WITH the bartender addon
03:55.25taledenwell, its possible bartender does something that brings out the glitch, but the real problem does have to be in the base ui or client
03:57.28ckknightlol: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1236224752866.png
03:59.10Torhalckknight: ...
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04:00.31DrENullYnahha! clue: http://www.carboniteaddon.com/cs/forums/p/2031/8473.aspx
04:01.21DrENullYni installed questhelper and it's in my backup addons
04:01.39DrENullYndisabled and will give it a shot
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04:10.09ZhinjioHey Torhal
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04:31.27Groktarwaits until the ML calls for bids and then says "first person to roll 100 out of 1-100 gets 100 gold from groktar"
04:35.17StanzillaI just typed "/rnd 100" and then noticed what's wrong -.-
04:37.12orionshockStanzilla:  did you have a  "there is no map key" moment?
04:37.36quiescensthere is no spoon
04:37.43Stanzillalooked more like
04:37.44Stanzilla[kornbluth.freenode.net][421] Stanzilla rnd :Unknown command
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05:39.07quiescenspeople say dk's were supposed to help deal with tank shortage but I find that what you actually have is a lot more paladin tanks than there used to be
05:39.21quiescensand then a couple million dps dk's
05:39.50quiescenscompeting for dk gear against the 5 odd tanking dk's
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05:42.39orionshockeh, dk where blizzard's answer to spice the game up.. anything more is a pipedream
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05:59.39AeyanIt's fun to be a good DK tank though.
06:00.12AeyanBased on the pre-3.0 times, there's a lot less pally tanks on my server than there used to be.
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06:00.50AeyanThey used to be hands down the greatest 5-man tanks
06:01.05quiescenswe seem to have gained a lot of paladin tanks and lost large amounts of warrior tanks
06:01.06AeyanNow, most of the ones I knew have respec'd Ret
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06:02.52BWMerlinwe lost a lot of druid tanks
06:03.07BWMerlinand druids all round
06:03.15BWMerlinwarrior tanks are still there
06:03.24BWMerlinlots of ret and dps dk and warriors
06:03.37BWMerlinother class's just dont seem to be as common though
06:04.09AeyanYeah, I've seen a lot less bears around
06:04.17AeyanAssloads of dps DK's
06:04.17quiescensyeah, fewer bears
06:04.28quiescensmore other types of druids
06:04.46AeyanMoonkins a'plenty
06:06.06BWMerlinyeah moonkins are more plentafull then they were BC
06:06.29BWMerlinin BC i always felt it was good to have a rounded group
06:06.40BWMerlinno more then 1 type of class (that did depend on instances)
06:07.10BWMerlinnow its not uncommon 2 have two of the same class and spec like 2 ret, 2 dps dks and warriors
06:07.17BWMerlinand raids are worst
06:07.40AeyanNo doubt, hehe.
06:07.50BWMerlinret pallys cry the most when you keep inviting pallys because there is nothing else to get besides pallys
06:07.52AeyanI miss my shadow priest a bit, but I'm still pissed about replenishment
06:08.11AeyanThe endless fields of ret pallies, heh
06:08.39BWMerlini changed from enh shaman 2 spriest and its great fun
06:08.47quiescenslot of mutilate rogues
06:09.10AeyanAs opposed to the old combat rogues and... combat rogues.
06:09.45BWMerlinand warlocks
06:09.48AeyanAnd the odd pvp subtlety rogue that was pissed because he couldn't come.
06:13.20BWMerlinanyone have thoughts about why there are so many pallys?
06:13.52BWMerlinis it just because they are so hard to kill no matter what spec they are?
06:14.03quiescensI'm not seeing thaat many, and at least a fair number of them are prot~
06:14.51BWMerlinis it because their abilites lend themself as easier to learn then other class's so less effort needs to be used to learn 2 play?
06:15.39BWMerlinbecause if you say go pallys vs druid a druid can do ever role (melee dps, caster dps, tank and healer) where as pally can only do melee dps, tank and healer
06:16.06BWMerlinso ability to change specs doesnt really lend itself 2 pally vs a druid
06:16.48Fisker-http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8246436725&sid=1 <-he's a godly addon dev
06:18.54quiescensI don't see a particularly significant problem with someone wanting to sell their stuff cheaper than everyone constantly?
06:19.29BWMerlini do
06:19.39BWMerlinbecause i want to offload my stuff and make $$$
06:19.54BWMerlinatm our AH seems all wacked (to me)
06:20.03quiescenseventually it has to hit a low end
06:20.30BWMerlini got greedy and tried to make $$ and no the price of those items have fallen through the floor that even trying to sell bellow at what i brought them i cant shift them
06:20.43BWMerlinsome times have gone through the roof
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06:20.54BWMerlinartic fur and citin 4 one
06:21.09BWMerlinfur is like instant $$$
06:21.21BWMerlinuse to be about 30g each
06:21.25BWMerlinnow its like 100g
06:21.35BWMerlingg being a LW and trying to buy all those patterns
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06:56.47Xinhuaneverytime i check halaa, it belongs to the horde
06:56.50Xinhuan>.>
06:57.10BWMerlinas it should
06:57.21Aesishalaa?
06:57.28BWMerlinin nagrand
06:57.28Xinhuanyes, in nagrand
06:57.34BWMerlinthe old pvp city
06:58.07Aesisi see
06:58.24Aesisonly been nagrand for like 2~3 days while leveing up :P
06:59.40Xinhuanlol
07:05.59Fisker-any good light scrolling combat text addons? :o
07:06.36robotuschParrot!
07:06.40robotusch.. oh wai-
07:07.15BWMerlinthe blizz one?
07:07.18Repo10big-brother: 03Quaiche 06quaiche * r197 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fixed broken svn:external
07:07.20RepoAdded Elixir of Mighty Agility
07:07.23RepoAdded Blessing of Sanctuary
07:07.24Fisker-looks like and shit and options suck
07:07.31Fisker-also your mother
07:07.32robotusch<3 Fusker
07:09.32Fisker-But is there even other mods than mikord's, grayhoof's and ckknight's?
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07:12.05robotuschboo, no bukkit today :(
07:12.17Fisker-harrr
07:12.26Fisker-is it crocs in teh city tiem?
07:12.29robotuschgot one the other day tho >:]
07:12.35Fisker-fffffffffuuuuuu
07:12.38robotusch:D
07:12.41Fisker-atleast i already got 75 pets
07:14.32Groktarspawns a void zone under Fisker-
07:15.07robotuschsounds like our hilarious Sarth+1 pug run the other day
07:15.14Fisker-dies due to fucking void zones being blue which is fucking awesome UNDER BLUE FUCKING DRAKES RAWRGH
07:15.27Fisker-atleast i got gotta go when the volcano blows
07:15.33robotuschthink we lost something like 5 on one void zone xD
07:16.02robotuschalso, being a lone tank on Patchwerk is kinda interesting :D
07:16.05quiescensbattle resses fisker
07:16.10Aesisvoid zone?
07:16.17Fisker-declines
07:16.40Aesisis not used to english terms of WoW :(
07:16.54robotuschcircle on the ground that oneshots you
07:17.05quiescensraises fisker as a ghoul
07:17.15Aesisoh that
07:17.16Fisker-declines
07:17.18Fisker-also
07:17.22Fisker-it doesn't oneshot you
07:17.23robotuschthat's unpossible! He's always a ghoul :(
07:17.25Fisker-only when doing drakes
07:17.37Aesisgot killed by it yesterday in naxx, bastard kelt
07:17.46Fisker-same
07:17.55Fisker-not gonna stand with death knights anymore
07:18.05Fisker-distracting aoe is distracting :(
07:18.06Aesis'oh 5% health left, super dealing mode!' and then next thing i know, i was dead bah
07:18.53Fisker-So here i am doing a very hard boss and then i see the death knight "LADADADA" around
07:18.59Fisker-it's fucking distracting
07:19.05BWMerlinwhat is easier to pug, OS10+1d or OS25+1d?
07:19.14Fisker-os25 of course
07:19.14quiescens25!
07:19.15Aesisdo you guys have 'gold party' for naxx and such? ie. you auction given items between yourselves and distribute the received gold among the others
07:19.44Fisker-Nah i just don't tell people that what i took was boe
07:19.50BWMerlinwe did something like that for sunwell with the motes or what ever they were called
07:20.03BWMerlinand the gems
07:20.16BWMerlinand the raid leader would mail you a few days later with your cut
07:20.32Fisker-omg drug dealers
07:21.18robotuschwe just DE whatever we bop stuff we don't need & then our raid leader tries to get away with ninjaing the boe stuff xD
07:21.34Aesis:P
07:21.48Fisker-you know what's awesome robotusch?
07:21.58sb|workAesis: we do split up the money for boe items
07:21.59robotuschlike our Naxx10 run, we had plenty of stuff that was DE'd, but we sort of "forgot" raid roll with the puggers for the shards xD
07:22.02sb|workat least for 10s naxx
07:22.08Aesisi see
07:22.13sb|work25s money is for guild bank
07:22.17Fisker-not being able to join the last billion OS25 runs, having to pug for the stupid pala gloves and when you can finally join OS25 the pala gloves doesn't drop
07:22.23sb|workmorning btw
07:22.25robotuschxD
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07:22.56Fisker-WTS Heroes' Redemption Gauntlets :(
07:22.59robotuschImma just hoping for my axe+shield tomorrow, doesn't really need anything else
07:23.17Fisker-didn't drop for us :(
07:23.20Fisker-atleast i got the cloak
07:23.37Zhinjiowhats the command to see what you're saved to?
07:23.38sb|workAesis: and sometimes i try to ninja the boe items! :/
07:23.46Fisker-<PROTECTED>
07:23.57Fisker-or go into the raid section of the social tab and press raid info
07:24.01robotuschthough I was kinda miffed that I got T7.5 tank stuff about 24 hours after I had bought the T7 stuff >_>
07:24.02Zhinjiothanks
07:24.10Fisker-or use the calendar :D
07:24.13robotuschwould have been a nice upgrade for my retlol or holy set :<
07:24.21Fisker-hohoho
07:25.59Repo10framesresized: 03Elkano * r41 FramesResized.lua: will now also resize RaidInfo panel to 8 visible entries
07:27.58robotuschoh btw, Elkano?
07:29.04Aesiswent to OS 2 drag yesterday and earnt meself a lousy 610 gold through gold party :(
07:29.10robotuschany chance of FramesResized not making the frames movable?
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07:56.00Elkanorobotusch, I think I'll look into adding some config to FR since we have the interface options ^^ in that case, I'll add an option for not doing so :)
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07:58.38KaaosaAnyone know why CowTip refuses to display tooltips when Chatter or SharedMedia are enabled? :|
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08:03.19ElkanoSharedMedia shouldn't stop it from doing so...
08:03.26Elkanodo you have errors enabled?
08:03.49Elkanoeg simply via the options or by installing !BugGrabber/BugSack
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08:08.42KaaosaYeah, let me see what it is exactly
08:10.32Kaaosalol.. since I can't see tooltips, I can't read bugsack's error list
08:11.16nevcairieljust click on bugsack
08:11.23nevcairieldon't need the tooltip
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08:13.06KaaosaOh neat. Shows how much I know :v
08:13.40Fisker-why so knowledgable
08:13.40Fisker-?
08:13.56Repo10little-wigs: 037destiny * r551 Storm_Peaks/LittleWigs_Storm_Peaks.toc: koKR Update
08:14.57Kaaosahttp://pastebin.com/m4e35b754
08:15.27KaaosaThat's the error I get anytime a tooltip should be made.
08:15.40KaaosaWhenever SharedMedia or Chatter is enabled alongside CowTip
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08:19.29Elkanohmm, isn't there a newer version of CowTip than r68121?
08:19.59Elkanomaybe updating would help?
08:20.08KaaosaI thought I updated it? Weird.
08:21.19Elkanowhat did you use to update?
08:21.37KaaosaDownloaded it from wowace
08:21.51Kaaosav1.2 from http://www.wowace.com/projects/cowtip/
08:22.07Elkanohmm...
08:24.09Elkanoah I see th reason for the version problem ^^ with the change to the new svn, the revisions restarted at 1 but it uses the largest known. and since some modules haven't been touched it still gets the old version
08:25.25Kaaosaso is there something I should be doing different? >_>
08:25.50robotuschElkano, thanks (albeit slightly late :P)
08:26.56robotuschoh, and fyi, Blizzard have broken it with 3.1 :(
08:28.56ElkanoKaaosa, looks like the module is enabled before being initialized or sth like that...
08:30.17Elkanorobotusch, wrt 3.1 I know :/ has to do with the way they set scripts which is currently a problem since the assignment is evaluated on load and thus hooking the functions doesn't work anymore
08:30.47robotusch:(
08:31.11robotuschI can't function without FR, it still baffles me why Blizzard haven't added it themselves :/
08:31.48nevcairielElkano: hooking should still work, if you hook earlier :D
08:32.21Elkanowell, I can fix it by changing the function hooks to script hooks though I want to wait if they'll change things again
08:32.23nevcairielElkano: you hook in PLAYER_LOGIN or so, just hook in the main chunk, and it should work
08:33.02nevcairielof course thats a bit more tricky with the LoD addons
08:33.34Elkanoexactly nev, I would have to run code after their lua has loaded but before the XML is evaluated
08:34.15nevcairielWell script hooking it is then =)
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08:44.35NeoTron@project magiclooter
08:44.36RepoNeoTron: http://www.wowace.com/projects/magiclooter/. Magic Looter. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. dhedbor (Manager/Author). Updated: 28 seconds ago
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08:56.29NeoTronwish there was a "ordered list of strings" option in AceConfig-3.0
08:57.17Groktardares NeoTron to write one and incur the wrath of Kaelten
08:57.45NeoTronheh
08:58.04NeoTronmaybe I'll make a simple space/comma separated list. would be easy enough
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09:06.03Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 885b1dd Main.lua: [+1 commit] Ticket 83: Add partytargettarget and partypettargettarget frames.
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09:41.47TradeMorkhmmmm I'm getting "attempt to index global 'self', a nil value" in my OnUpdate event
09:41.48TradeMorkany ideas?
09:41.58[Ammo]you're doing it wrong! :)
09:42.11[Ammo]but paste your code somewhere
09:42.13TradeMorkit's referenced in my OnInitialize event without issue
09:42.15TradeMorkprobably :D
09:42.17TradeMorkalright
09:42.29TradeMorkerr OnEnable I mean
09:42.59Groktarpounces [Ammo]'s onupdate events
09:45.16TradeMorkok I'm guessing I have to somehow make it "function MyAceAddon:OnUpdate()" rather than "function SomeFunction"
09:45.33TradeMorkbut I can't get frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", MyAceAddon:OnUpdate) to work
09:45.55TradeMorkframe:SetScript("OnUpdate", SomeFunction) works, but doesn't allow me to access self
09:46.16[Ammo]you're doing it wrong.
09:46.25TradeMorkI'm definitely doing it wrong somewhere... want me to try paste the relevant parts?
09:47.07[Ammo]basically: function SomeFunction( frameself, elapsed) MyAceAddon:OnUpdate(elapsed) end
09:47.09Arrowmasterwhat are you expecting self to be?
09:47.10[Ammo]will do the trick
09:47.20[Ammo]he is expecting it to be his addon object
09:47.25[Ammo]but that won't work
09:47.47[Ammo]there are multiple solutions to this issue shrug
09:47.48TradeMorkyer, want to be able to access self.db
09:47.55[Ammo]MyAceAddon.db
09:48.08TradeMorkohhhhh, that'd be much easier :P
09:48.12TradeMork/bonk
09:48.27TradeMorkis still new to this, believe it or not :D
09:48.28TradeMorkthanks
09:48.38[Ammo]it's actually quite obvious, no need to believe :p
09:50.21Fisker-fuck yeah?
09:50.37[Ammo]inserts a barstool into Fisker- sideways
09:50.45[Ammo]go sit on that
09:51.42Groktartakes a picture
09:53.10Repo10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r2 / (18 files in 2 directories):
09:53.13RepoInital import of the automatic master looter loot distribution addon.
09:54.54Repo10talented: 03jerry * r432 / (8 files in 2 directories): Try to get rid of Talented.current
09:54.57RepoAdd an :IterateTalentViews() method.
09:55.00RepoRemove Talented.maxpoints/.pet_maxpoints
09:58.41ElkanoBlizzard still didn't manage to fix MINIMAP_UPDATE_TRACKING for leaving cat form :/
10:00.42nevcairielI wish i could turn off the automatic track humanoids
10:00.58nevcairielit sucks if you try to do low level quest with low-lvl-tracking as feral
10:01.12nevcairieltrack herbs will not be overriden, but track low level quests will =(
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10:02.32Elkanowell, on PTR it didn't switch to track humanoids the first time I changed into cat
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10:03.12nevcairielwell i'm done with loremaster now, so shrug
10:03.21nevcairielno low level quests left to do :D
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10:25.08Poul|RaiderYo, any ps3 fans here :D or well, mostly im looking for someone who think he know alot about bluray ripping for using with media server/ps3 :D
10:25.49krkayou've come to exactly the right place
10:25.59Poul|Raiderkidding ?
10:26.05Poul|Raider:)
10:28.00krkano of course not, the channel name is #wowace which clearly is about bluray ripping on ps3
10:28.44Poul|Raider:D well we are all geeks here :P chances should be that there would be one more in here who got a ps3 and been experience with ripping blurays for that use :P
10:29.26Poul|Raidernot talking about ripping em on ps3, ripping em for watching on ps3 by media server
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11:00.11ramozmy guess is that you'd have to rip it into a format which the ps3 plays and then stream it with tversity or windows media server
11:00.21Repo10smartmount: 03verotas * r77 Rock_Locale.lua: Added koKR translation (by san0713 at wow.somegate.com)
11:01.23Arrowmasterthe formats the ps3 plays back are perty well documented
11:02.49Arrowmasterthe hd one being h264 in mp4, likely 4.0 profile but i dont know
11:04.19Arrowmasteractually it would probably play the original video from the bluray just in an mp4 container
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11:12.06Poul|Raiderye ramoz :) thats what i am doing. But takes ages to try different things with the recoding :)
11:17.38Poul|Raiderye Arrowmaster, what im dealing with now is the sound
11:18.08Poul|Raiderrecoding it to ac3 seems to be the only way
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12:25.16Repo10cosplay: 03phyber 04v1.1.3 * 5bd9d28 /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tagging as v1.1.3
12:25.29phyber(koKR translation)
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12:35.39BWMerlin@describe cosplay
12:35.41RepoBWMerlin: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cosplay/. Cosplay.  Adds a button to undress the model in the Dressing room, which makes viewing some items easier (eg. Checking out some new pants if you wear a robe).
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12:43.30kachna|lappyhello there,is there an addon, that would allow me to have a few selected targets from raid moving around the screen? something like if i pull someone from raid tab to the screen,but i'd like it to show if he has aggro and such things
12:43.43kachna|lappylike...a focus target but to have more of them :/
12:45.27ArrowmasteroRA2 has player targets
12:46.21kachna|lappymm i remember there were some MT targets, so there's another option for other?
12:46.30Arrowmasteryes
12:46.40Arrowmasterits called player targets
12:46.43kachna|lappyi havent figured out how to pull them to the screen yet though, will have to try when i'm at home
12:46.47kachna|lappynice,thanks!
12:47.11kachna|lappydo i need some other addon to show them or not? i believe i had Xperl showing the MT targets from ora2 before
12:47.18sztanpetjust use grid and color the border of the player with red if he has agro
12:47.21kachna|lappysomehow hidden it thought,sont really need it
12:47.47kachna|lappysztanpet: well,that doesnt always show :/ and i only want a few specific targets to have near the middle so i taunt from them faster
12:48.06kachna|lappy(basically, healers on sarth+3 to get adds off them)
12:48.32sztanpetyea, i use grid and clique with a targettarget taunt macro for that
12:48.41sb|workah.. let them die and tell them to play better :o
12:48.50Pneumatuswhy would a healer have an add thats hitting them targetted? :o
12:49.02kachna|lappyPneumatus: good point
12:49.10kachna|lappyanyway im pally so i can use righteous defense :P
12:49.11sb|workPneumatus: uhm.. healing aggro? :p
12:49.25Pneumatusi always have sarth targetted to watch for breath casts
12:49.30sztanpetsb|work he is saying that the healer wont have the add targeted
12:49.36sb|workahh
12:49.38sb|workthat way, oaky %-)
12:49.40kachna|lappybut grid shows to be kinda unreliable in that highlighting, so i want just healers to watch their hp
12:49.57kachna|lappywell i wouldnt realyl want to taunt sarth tbh :P
12:49.59kachna|lappy*really
12:50.08sb|workPneumatus: i always have tank targetted + sarth focused :p
12:50.19kachna|lappyit could make for some fun moments though ^^
12:50.22sztanpetyea, i dont use it for sarth, just general instanceing
12:50.29Pneumatuswell, you wouldnt want to taunt the tank either :P
12:50.38kachna|lappy:P
12:51.27Pneumatususe a mouseover taunt macro and just mouseover any adds in the healer area perhaps? :P
12:51.44sztanpetreroll dk and just stand in the dnd!
12:51.54sztanpetor tell them to move there
12:52.39kachna|lappywell you know
12:52.43kachna|lappyi consecrate under them
12:52.55kachna|lappybut that's not exactly a good idea to stand static during the fight
12:53.01sztanpetthank god they lowered its threat to be almost unusable
12:53.21kachna|lappygrenades for aggroing whelps for the freaking win :P
12:53.29sztanpethahah
12:53.43Grumits so easy to get those whelps o.O
12:53.49Grumjust let the 2 healers you have stand near eachother
12:53.59Grumand you're done
12:54.08kachna|lappywell you know
12:54.14kachna|lappyif there's a wave going on
12:54.20kachna|lappyand i land consecration under them
12:54.32kachna|lappywhelps will just run across it,take 1 tick and completely ignore me
12:54.43kachna|lappyso the grenade makes a lot
12:55.18Repo10proculas: 03Xocide * r165 modules (2 files in 1 directory): Added requested procs.
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12:56.33Repo10proculas: 03Xocide 041.5.4 * r166 : Tagging as 1.5.4
12:57.09kachna|lappydo i need http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11432-Broker_oRA2Targets.html , or jsut oRA2 will do the job btw? :P
12:58.15sztanpetdont know if player targets show agro or not
12:58.49kachna|lappywell,i can just watch their hp
12:59.00kachna|lappyits just a bit hard in grid when im short on time
12:59.04kachna|lappysolotanking these adds :/
13:08.35SunTsukachna|lappy: Broker_oRA2Targets is a Broker/LDB-Plugin so you can have the information for instance in Fortress. It's nothing you really need if you want the playertarget windows
13:12.48kachna|lappyalright,thanks )
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14:03.30waallenDoes anyone know if the texture used in this screenshot for the power and health bars is a sharedmedia one or custom? I can't quite find it, http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/9036/wowscrnshot123008012113dt5.jpg
14:04.14Grumprolly something with 'runes' in it
14:06.08waallenIt's not 'Runes' at least, I guess it's just a custom one
14:10.41Stanzillalooks like one that I kicked out of my sharedmedia because it's ugly :p
14:11.29nevcairiellol
14:11.35winkillerhehe
14:11.38winkillerI've never seen it
14:11.45winkillermust be a new sharedmedia
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14:15.18waallenStanzilla: do you remember the name? :D
14:15.25Stanzillano, sorry^^
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14:19.25waallenalright!
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15:37.16RepoNew project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/magiclooter/. Magic Looter. dhedbor (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel.
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15:41.04Repo10querier: 03Ackis 07master * v1.7-4-g5021eac / (5 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
15:41.07Repo5021eac: Auto-generate main page.
15:41.10Repo85e68fe: Update .pkgmeta and toc.
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15:47.33Repo10proculas: 03Nevcairiel * r167 .pkgmeta:
15:47.36RepoDo not use tags on non-wowace/CF repositorys, or the packager is very unhappy
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16:28.34Ackis@project broker_currency
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17:13.21Repo10maelstrommaestrogerman: 03yheen * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): 1. rev
17:14.58nevcairielwtf
17:15.09nevcairiel@project maelstrommaestrogerman
17:15.16Reponevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/maelstrommaestrogerman/. MaelstromMaestro (German). Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. yheen (Manager/Author). Updated: 5 minutes ago
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17:16.47Pneumatusso many people asking me how i got the realm first level 80 troll achievement on my level 60 mage after linking it :o
17:17.00Pneumatus*level 60 gnome mage
17:17.50durcynit's like the name of the character isn't actually in the achievment link or something.
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17:19.09neonDoes anyone here know if the OmniCC author usually hangs around on IRC, and if so what his nick is?
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17:19.22nevcairielYeah he is here sometimes
17:19.25nevcairiel~seen tuller
17:19.27purltuller <n=Tuller@c-68-57-165-234.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 15h 26m 35s ago, saying: 'lalalalala'.
17:19.35nevcairielthats him ^
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17:20.03neonAh, I actually did a /who Tuller before asking, but didn't think of !seen >.<
17:20.25neonwth, purl is here!
17:20.33nevcairielof course she is
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17:20.49neonpurl, Cutie
17:20.53neonAw :(
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17:22.11neonAnyways, just had a small idea for OmniCC/CooldownWatch that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else, and I'm too lazy to file a bug report with a suggestion >.<
17:22.17Pneumatuslol repo resolves to hg.wowace.com now
17:22.38neonWas just playing around with the idea of supporting internal CD trinket procs in the cooldown text
17:22.46nevcairielPneumatus: he was git.curseforge.net before
17:23.03Pneumatusyeh, multiple ptrs :o
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17:23.35Repo10maelstrommaestrogerman: 03yheen * r3 MaelstromMaestro.lua: english & german clients
17:23.37neonWould be nice for pvp and timing speed pot usage during BLs in raids with trinket procs that has 45 sec ICDs
17:24.05durcynneon: it's a bit out of scope, OmniCC just modifies the existing cooldown model
17:24.10neonTrue
17:24.28neonAs I said, just playing around with the idea :)
17:24.40Pneumatusheh, Repo's IP has 7 PTR records
17:24.42neonMight just put something together for personal usage but
17:25.10durcynthere are mods that do track internal cooldowns though, i've got some in Heatsink, and there's procodile as well
17:25.16nevcairielPneumatus: thats what you get for asking kaelten to set a PTR on the IPs, now they have too many
17:25.24neonJust thought it would be a neat and simple solution, instead of using one of the procwatch addons
17:25.26Pneumatusyes, 6 too many :o
17:26.31nevcairielI wonder if its actually against the RFC
17:26.31durcynneon: well, far be it for me to say you can't suggest it to him, go for it
17:26.32Pneumatusits not technically breaking protocol though afaik
17:26.33nevcairielchecks
17:27.07durcynit's not a violation per se, but it really should be one A/PTR with some CNAMEs for hg/svn/git
17:27.23neondurcyn, Nah, you're right, it's completely different from the idea of OmniCC, mainly just wanted a talk with him about ideas on how to implement it
17:28.33durcynneon: depending on where you actually want it displayed, i.e. actionbar vs character screen, then you might be able to start with something like Dominos_BuffTimes and tweak it to suit your use
17:28.42Pneumatushttp://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-reverse-mapping-considerations-06 mentions that multiple PTRs are allowed, but could be detrimental in that it could cause the response to exceed the UDP limit
17:29.01nevcairielits better then no PTR before
17:29.02nevcairielso shrug
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17:29.20Pneumatuswell, repo's server doesnt send mail anyway afaik
17:29.27Pneumatusthat ip, anyway
17:29.39nevcairielYou sure? ;)
17:29.50Pneumatusno :<
17:30.14Pneumatus7 is better than none i guess
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17:30.36neondurcyn, Well, right now I just use a simple 2 button actionbar with 2 macros (#showtooltip 13 and 14 as well as some on-click /use's), so my initial idea would just be to add support for it and display it the same way as regular CDs are being displayed
17:31.07neonWould also be pretty simple to modify an addon like TrinketMenu to do it I guess
17:32.16neon(As regular CDs are being displayed via the addons CooldownWatch/OmniCC I mean)
17:32.55Pneumatusdoes omnicc still fail at DKs with deathrunes?
17:33.07durcynhrm, if there's a way to manually apply a cooldown model, you might be able to cheese it
17:33.09Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r75 GridDefaults.lua:
17:33.12Repo-- Requires SV reset (theres a button for this in the Debugging options)
17:33.15Pneumatus(am assuming its actually because blizz fail too)
17:33.15Repo-- Support for creating Icon, Square and Text indicators.
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17:35.16Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r76 Options (3 files in 2 directories):
17:35.19Repo-- Requires SV reset (theres a button for this in the Debugging options)
17:35.22Repo-- Create new Icon, Square and Text indicators.
17:38.18sb|work@project grid2
17:38.19Reposb|work: http://www.wowace.com/projects/grid2/. Grid2. Game: WoW. jerry (Manager/Author), Azethoth (Author). Updated: 18 hours ago. Tickets: 5/9
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17:50.31Repo10bettermagnet: 03copystring * r10 BetterMagnet.lua: BetterMagnet:
17:50.43Repo- fixed a type on GetBindOn()
17:50.58Repo- moved Quests into it's own group and added BoP quest items
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17:52.45RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/markup-types/wiki-creole/ by ckknight
17:53.28ckknightWikiCreole now supports image references properly
17:53.44ckknighte.g. {{CurseForge:9}} references the CurseForge project's image #9
17:54.35Pneumatusoh, pro
17:54.54ckknightalso, table of contents are generated properly.
18:00.28Zhinjiowere a bunch of the engineering goggles removed from trainers recently?
18:00.30Zhinjiowtf
18:00.40Zhinjiothere's like 5 of them listed in ARL that are not on the trainer
18:03.06Zhinjioanyone know of such a thing?
18:03.24Zhinjio5 level 440 engy goggles. I can't find them on the trainer
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18:04.45durcynZhinjio: are they for an armor type you can't equip?
18:05.05Zhinjiohmm
18:05.28Zhinjioah, so BoP .. I gotcha. makes sense.
18:06.23Zhinjiowell, technically, I can wear all armor types
18:06.33Zhinjiobut I'm a pally
18:06.42Zhinjioso I can see where it would only show me plate ones
18:07.38RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/markup-types/wiki-creole/ by ckknight
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18:07.54durcynthere are also class restrictions on some of the hats.
18:08.02Zhinjio*nods*
18:08.07Zhinjiothat would make sense thene
18:08.39Zhinjiothis is going to make 445-450 brutal
18:09.01Chaoslux445-450 for any profession is brutal anyway
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18:18.16ckknightokay, the luadoc autodocumenter now uses WikiCreole instead of Curse Wiki. This doesn't change much, but it does mean that usage statements are now syntax-highlighted
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18:28.18waallenOh, just noticed that ClassTimer shows other players from the same classes' diseases as well on PTR now
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18:32.10Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443530620&pageNo=1&sid=1#5 <-anyone know what the defense cap is for level 60 players vs. level 75?
18:32.11Fisker-:D
18:34.37durcynwaallen: UnitAura/UnitBuff/UnitDebuff were changed to return a unit token string instead of the "is mine" flag
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18:35.42durcynso anything checking for that flag will need to be updated to do == "player" and/or == "pet" instead of just checking nil
18:36.12waallenoh, I see
18:39.50waallenit doesn't sound too hard, I'll give it a try later
18:42.41Zhinjioomg
18:42.44Zhinjiosfw: http://thechive.com/2009/02/how-to-make-a-bacon-and-cheese-stuffed-pizza-burger-11-photos/
18:42.56ZhinjioI can hear my arteries hardening already just loooking at it
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19:13.20sb|workuhm malygos achievement
19:13.24sb|workis it 6min or 5:45?
19:13.31sb|worki read some stuff about 5:45
19:15.24durcynit's 6:00 flat.
19:15.53NivFreakyea
19:15.59NivFreakwe did our last one in 5:59
19:16.00NivFreaklol
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19:25.28ilovemrdoewe just missed out by 1 second
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19:27.12NivFreakouch
19:28.45sb|workok nevermind
19:28.46sb|workits 6:00
19:29.03NivFreakyes
19:29.06sb|workdid it in 5:46 :p
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19:29.18sb|workwith 3 casters! :P
19:29.25NivFreak10man?
19:29.27sb|workyup
19:29.33NivFreakyea, that's about what we did in 10man
19:30.17sb|work4 melees :P
19:30.23sb|workand it works ;)
19:30.32durcynas long as you get him to 50% before a second vortex, you've already won
19:30.44sb|workyup, was easy
19:30.51NivFreakyea, you can do it without that
19:30.55NivFreakbut it's harder
19:30.57sb|worki died at 25% boss in p3 ;)
19:31.21Zhinjioanyone know of addon that helps with calculation of spi to mp5?
19:32.23NivFreakhealpoints?
19:32.27Zhinjiodoes it?
19:32.29Zhinjiohmm
19:32.31NivFreakI'm not 100% sure
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19:32.43NivFreakratings buster maybe as well
19:36.52Zhinjiochecking both of those now
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19:38.49NeoTronsb|work: it's 6 minutes but the initial pull (when he lands) counts so you do in reality have a bit less time than 6 minutes. At least that's what I understand.
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19:39.59nevcairielJust watch the achievement
19:40.02nevcairielit has a timer
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19:40.52nevcairieland it starts the moment you press the orb
19:40.56nevcairielso yea, pull time counts
19:42.36durcynyou lose a bit of time in p2-p3 transition as well
19:43.35durcynstill, p2 before 2nd vortex and it's hard to lose
19:44.06sb|worknevcairiel: yea, i did, worked :p
19:44.16Gnarfozis RecountDeathTrack supposed to do anything?
19:44.22sb|workdurcyn: possible with melee setup :p
20:02.21Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r105 / (9 files in 5 directories): Added modules.xml.
20:02.24RepoAdded threat warnings.
20:02.27RepoFixed bug where enabling a module while having old data where the module was not present could produce errors.
20:02.57HjalteGnarfoz: Bring out the total bar and you'll see.
20:03.17Gnarfoztotal? hmm. ok.
20:03.24Gnarfozthat should probably be noted somewhere *g*
20:06.35Gnarfoznot seeing nuthin', Hjalte
20:06.43Gnarfozah, clicking it
20:06.46RaydenUdid you guys see the wowinsider article on the problems with tanks and crushing blows?
20:06.48RaydenUinteresting read
20:06.49GnarfozVERY unintuitive and un-recountish
20:06.52Gnarfoz-.-
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20:07.10HjalteYes, I agree. I spent a few hours finding it myself the other day.
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20:12.00RaydenUhttp://www.wowinsider.com/2009/03/03/shifting-perspectives-tanks-wrath-and-crushing-blows/
20:12.08RaydenUWarriors, Paladins are obsolete
20:12.13RaydenUDruids are not, only accidentally
20:12.25RaydenUDK's are pretty much requires for high level progression/achievements
20:12.27RaydenU:P
20:12.34RaydenUrequired*
20:12.45RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/admin/how-to-approve-projects-and-files/ by ckknight
20:12.46RaydenUwell written article
20:12.51Funkeh`http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-98-Follows-Windows-3-1-to-New-Limits-106151.shtml
20:14.31RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/how-to-file-tickets/ by ckknight
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20:14.53GnarfozRaydenU: well written + wowinsider?
20:15.33RaydenUAllison Robert usually has good stuff
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20:16.38RaydenUhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8136496835&sid=1
20:16.39RaydenUooh
20:16.41RaydenUi like
20:16.51RaydenURather then destroying a SINGLE object to win the battle.
20:16.51RaydenUThe fortress would have NINE strategic points, upon the fall of FIVE of those, the fortress is under the ATTACKERS command.
20:18.26AeyanHaha
20:18.30Aeyan75k voidwalker tank
20:18.35AeyanExcellent
20:22.05Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r106 Skada.toc:
20:22.08RepoFixed .toc; added AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets as OptionalDeps/X-Embeds. (thanks Phanx)
20:22.28ArrowmasterZarnivoop: X-Embeds isnt used anymore
20:24.41Zarnivoopfair enough
20:26.18RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ by anmoch
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20:31.30Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r107 Skada.toc:
20:31.33RepoFixed .toc again; removed X-Embeds and added no-lib-strip directive.
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20:32.06artifexhello
20:32.16artifexthis the channel for the ace llbrary for the ace add ons to wow ?
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20:32.27RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/markup-types/ by ckknight
20:32.46Arrowmasterartifex: yes
20:32.48ckknightartifex: yes, but also the wowace.com site
20:33.09artifexI'd like to know how to get ora2 work again with fubar 3.5 I'm kinda missing the possibility to manage ora2 via fubar
20:33.22Arrowmasterget broker2fubar
20:33.30Stanzilla@project Broker2FuBar
20:33.31RepoStanzilla: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker2fubar/. Broker2FuBar. Game: WoW. Kemayo (Manager/Author), Adirelle (Author), Arrowmaster (Author). Updated: 138 days ago. Tickets: 2/4
20:33.34artifexokay
20:33.35artifexthanks
20:35.31RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/technology/ by ckknight
20:40.57Arrowmasterupgrade ubuntu already
20:42.34RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/ssh-public-keys/ by ckknight
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20:47.30Repo10chinon: 03Sidoine * r81 / (8 files in 2 directories): Chinon:
20:47.33Repo- option to add or remove a player or a pet to a custom line (command line only and in raid with more than 5 players only, type /chinon)
20:47.36Repo- option to show mana bar
20:47.39Repo- option to show a deadly debuff that can not be dispelled but that should be healed through (e.g. the spell from KT): displayed in white
20:47.50Repo10chinon: 03Sidoine 043.0.12 * r82 : Chinon:
20:47.53Repo- tag 3.0.12
20:51.51stolenlegacy~project Sidoine
20:52.02stolenlegacy@project chinon
20:52.03Repostolenlegacy: http://www.wowace.com/projects/chinon/. Chinon. Game: WoW. Sidoine (Manager/Author). Updated: 80 seconds ago
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20:59.45Stanzillavhaarr: BigWigs_Extras-2.0\Version.lua:629: attempt to index upvalue 'zoneRevisions' (a nil value)
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21:04.26Repo10chinon: 03Sidoine * r83 / (2 files in 1 directory): Chinon:
21:04.26Repo- small bug
21:04.38Repo10chinon: 03Sidoine 043.0.13 * r84 : Chinon:
21:04.41Repo- tag 3.0.13
21:06.15RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/encodings-or-validating-utf8/ by ckknight
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21:14.54vhaarrStanzilla: thanks, fixed
21:14.54Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5000 Extras/Version.lua: Bugfix.
21:15.07RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/docmeta-file/ by ckknight
21:15.41Repo10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r108 Skada.lua:
21:15.43RepoAdded a 3 second minimum pause after last action before segment ends, and now detecting combat start other than through PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED.
21:19.31RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ by ckknight
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21:23.27RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/abandoned-project-policy/ by ckknight
21:24.20RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/changing-descriptions/ by ckknight
21:26.10CIA-35ouf_tek: 03Tekkub 07master * r5a257bc 10/ layout.lua : Add maintank and mainassist UFs - http://bit.ly/s6lXk
21:26.12CIA-35ouf_tek: 03Tekkub 07master * rc18c32b 10/ layout.lua : Tag party pets correctly when dead - http://bit.ly/3nRQC
21:26.22RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/cloning/ by ckknight
21:26.36Repo10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r151 / (2 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0:
21:26.39Repo- Fix Flying Carpet being listed as a Very Fast Flying mount, it is only Fast...
21:27.24Repo10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.6.165-release * r165 : Tagging as 2.6.165-release
21:29.41RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/getting-started-with-project-management/ by ckknight
21:31.59RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/localizing-your-project/ by ckknight
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21:32.52Repo10recount: 03Elsia * r997 deletion.lua:
21:32.55Repo- Fixed bug which prevented instance based deletion from working as intended.
21:32.58Repo- Added check if data collection is active for party/raid based deletion.
21:33.50Repo10recountthreat: 03Elsia * r37 Threat_Mode.lua: RecountThreat:
21:33.53Repo- Changed no-target total threat to 0, which should hide the total bar if no aggro holder is present.
21:33.56Repo- Title will now only show "Threat" and no longer "Threat on GLOBAL" if there is no aggro target.
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21:36.29RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/what-to-do-after-creating-a-project/ by ckknight
21:37.21TradeMarkdoes this db / options initialization look sane? http://paste.wowace.com/325/
21:37.26TradeMarkI'm not sure about the ordering etc
21:37.58Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r64 Zones.lua: Broker_RecZone:
21:38.01Repo- Auto-unset NYI for Ulduar (raid) and Icecrown Citadel if the player is using the proper version that has them
21:39.00Repo10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r65 Zones.lua: Broker_RecZone:
21:39.03Repo- D'oh the logic was backwards
21:39.53ckknightTradeMark: ordering?
21:40.05TradeMarkif those statements make sense in that order
21:40.15TradeMarklike, if one is a prerequisite to another
21:40.21ckknightI'd do the db one first
21:41.03TradeMarkalright
21:42.28TradeMarkquick question: I've made my top frame movable (using OnMouseUp/OnMouseDown handlers) - I need to explicitly save the position in self.db using an OnMove-esque handler right?
21:42.46TradeMarkand reload at initialize time obviously
21:42.56TradeMarkie. WoW isn't smart enough to take care of that for me?
21:43.33TradeMark(for retaining position information between sessions)
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21:45.55vhaarrit can do that, depending on what kind of frame you're using
21:46.03vhaarrand some other conditions, I don't remember exactly what
21:46.24TradeMarkhmm.
21:46.37TradeMarkze googles, zey do nothing xD
21:47.44RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ by ckknight
21:49.11gixshit immortal. always those stupid random disconnects.
21:49.56TradeMark:(
21:52.24RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/how-to-use-tortoise-svn-over-ssh-in-312/ by ckknight
21:55.27RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ by anmoch
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21:59.17TradeMarkso noone has any ideas on retaining position information?
22:02.49RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/repository-faq/ by ckknight
22:03.28EthanCentauraihas finally earned the achievement: [Level 80]
22:03.36EthanCentauraicalls for beer and hookers
22:03.42ZarnivoopTradeMark: there is a Frame:SetUserPlaced(). in my experience it is a bit iffy though. LibWindow is a nice library for it.
22:10.20TradeMarkoo LibWindow looks nice, thanks :)
22:13.05Groktarpounces an unsuspecting TradeMark
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22:14.04Elsiaheya
22:14.27RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/ by ckknight
22:14.41Groktarhttp://www.cheerfulbreeze.com/TOPAS/We%20Blog!%20WebLog5_files/modern_management.jpg
22:14.56Groktarnoms ckknight's arm
22:16.52RepoKnowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/why-use-revision-control/ by ckknight
22:17.16Groktarso the new library at my school just "opened"
22:17.26Groktartook a look today
22:17.30Groktarthere's like no furniture
22:17.33ckknightlol
22:17.38Groktarthey're still installing the racks
22:17.57Groktarthey got the kind that roll back and forth to save space
22:18.01ckknightI'm done my KB changes. the entire knowledge base now uses WikiCreole rather than Curse Wiki
22:18.54Groktarmostly there were people sitting on the floor on their laptops
22:19.13Groktarbecause they had tons of power outlets/ethernet ports all over the place
22:19.16Groktarjust no tables/chairs
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22:20.21TradeMarkwith LibWindow, if I do .MakeDraggable, that should do things like Frame:SetMovable, Frame:EnableMouse for me yeah
22:20.22TradeMark?
22:21.39TradeMarkbah don't mind me I'm gonna stop being lazy and investigate the lib for myself :P
22:22.03TradeMarkdeveloping a wow addon blind via RDP from work isn't ideal heh
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22:29.32Repo10grid2: 03Sayclub * r77 Options/locales/koKR.lua: koKR update
22:30.23Groktarwhoa, grid2 is actually happening?
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22:31.57TorhalGroktar: Toadkiller's been working on it for a few weeks now.
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22:37.21Groktarcool
22:37.54steevwoot, made it through an entire day without having to turn on my windows box at work
22:39.01Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r56 / (3 files in 1 directory): get quest rewards from the questlog
22:39.04Reposend quest rewards to party => new sync protocol need an update of all party
22:39.07Repoadd questlog / lightheaded frame, early alpha need improvements, allow you to see quest from party
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23:15.28Gnarfozis there *anything* you can do to prevent simultaneous double shadow breathes on Sarth+3D besides "kill the 2nd drake, fool"? :P
23:16.22Repo10tomquest2: 03gagou * r58 locales (2 files in 1 directory): temporary fix for localization
23:16.45Axodioushit it harder? :D
23:17.43Axodiousi dunno, our drake tank doesnt seem to have an issue with the 2nd and 3rd drakes up simutaniously
23:17.54Pneumatushit it very hard, and very fast
23:17.58Pneumatusand throw more dots
23:18.04Axodiousi believe we have a paladin healer beacon the add tank
23:18.11Axodiousand heal the drake tank
23:18.43SunTsuDamn, where did fubar2broker go to?
23:22.37Gnarfozhum
23:22.43Gnarfozsimultaneous breaths
23:22.47Gnarfozwas the issue :\
23:22.50Groktarusually it's other people dying that kills us in 3d 10 man
23:22.57Groktarvery rarely drake tank dying
23:23.08Gnarfozrandomly nuking our drake tank in .5 seconds
23:23.14TradeMarkhow can I remove edges from a frame? it goes spastic if I set all insets = 0
23:23.24Groktardoes he have no hp or something?
23:23.33Groktarshould not be getting instagibbed
23:23.37Axodious^
23:23.41Repo10revelation: 03Torhal * r80 Revelation.lua:
23:23.44RepoEnchantLevel table is only defined if IterEnchant() is called, saving roughly 3k of memory for non-Enchanters.
23:23.47RepoRemoved GetKnown() and ReleaseTables(), placing their code directly into Revelation:Menu().
23:23.48Gnarfoztwilight torment + 2x melee + 2x shadow breath + both acolytes up
23:24.00Groktarstill shouldn't kill him
23:24.03Axodiouswhat % is the 2nd drake at
23:24.03Gnarfozoh, +-25% hp still because obviously one of them is vesperon
23:24.13Gnarfozthat's irrelevant, really
23:24.30Axodiouswell, we usually have the first drake down as the 2nd is landing before the portals are up
23:24.37Gnarfozand I'm not sure about his hp right now, but he's not undergeared by any means ^^
23:24.43Gnarfozit's 2nd and 3rd
23:24.49Gnarfozhow are you misunderstanding me :P
23:25.02Axodiousmy bad
23:25.24Gnarfozwell, guess it's just bad luck
23:25.28Axodioususually when both acolytes are up if the 2nd drake is sub 20% we burn him down and go down, otherwise we immediatly go down and deal with the adds
23:25.45Axodiousif both are up you're taking double shadow damage if i remember correctly
23:26.01Gnarfoztenebron has the +100% shadow aura, that's gone at that point
23:26.12GroktarTT is 75% shadowdmg
23:26.29Gnarfozboth shadow and fire, actually
23:26.49Axodiousdunno, im pretty much with Groktar
23:26.54Groktarya, but the fire isn't super relevant
23:26.55Axodiousnever really had an issue with both
23:27.15Groktari mean, i could see a death every once in a while
23:27.25Groktarbut it should be extremely rare
23:27.29Gnarfozit was on exactly those 2... 3? tries out of 30
23:27.34Gnarfozwhere everything else went perfectly
23:28.03Gnarfozthe universe has teamed up with the RNG to deny us Sarth3D/10 :P
23:28.32Groktarhehe
23:30.24Axodiousgot an armory link for your drake tank?
23:30.37Gnarfozchecking, probably fury or something :p
23:31.18Gnarfozhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Das%20Syndikat&n=Pence
23:32.24Repo10revelation: 03Torhal * r81 Revelation.lua:
23:32.27RepoReplaced 7411 with ENCHANTING_IDX to make the context of some code clearer.
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23:38.49Axodiousyeah i really dunno, shouldn't really die from that (especially with being a tank that has magic mitigation) unless he's not being topped off
23:39.09Axodiousi mean, if you're not using it you could bubble sac him when the 2 adds are up
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23:39.36Gnarfozwell, it's unpredictable
23:40.00Gnarfozand yes, he was topped off and went from full hp to 0 in 0.5 and 0.3 seconds, respectively :X
23:41.17Gnarfoz34k hmm
23:41.33Gnarfozbah too lazy to go ask him what his buffed + debuffed hp were
23:41.55Gnarfozanyway, nothing that could have been prevented without knowing they would double breath
23:41.59Gnarfoz:D
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23:43.41CodayusJust remember to use your Nefarian Scale Cloak.
23:51.19Axodiouswell i mean, if 12 seconds of 60% damage reduction isn't enough, and you've got decent healers, you could sac him for 12, then bubble for 12 giving 24 seconds of 30% reduction
23:51.38Axodiousand if the adds OR the 2nd drake arent dead by then...
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23:54.15Axodiousand even then, though it cant be relied upon every attempt, that would be the time for shield wall cause once the 2nd drake is dead the rest of the fight is cake
23:55.10Gnarfoz12 seconds 60% reduce? what
23:55.11Gnarfoz:D
23:55.31Gnarfozalso I'm liberally using sacrifice... haha 3min cd :[
23:56.02Repo10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r171 namescanner.lua:
23:56.05Repofix name scanner to not escape stuff. that way it can be used with online system. magic number is 204
23:56.38Axodioussac + bubble with divine guardian talented = 60% for 12 seconds
23:56.55Gnarfozwho would bubble?
23:56.59Gnarfozthere's no paladin healer :D
23:57.44Axodiousah see we always run with a paladin healer
23:57.53Axodioususually pally + priest + boomkin/ele shaman
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23:59.19Gnarfozdisc + tree + ele today, which was an exception, normally it's holy + tree + ele ^^
23:59.29Gnarfozwhich... isn't a difference that would make a difference :D
23:59.52Gnarfozand killing shadron takes way too long to cover that time with cooldowns ^^

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